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  5. # [00:01] <nrc|afk> wait, async script stuff is causing graphics issues?! That sounds bad
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  10. # [00:02] <@dbaron> nrc, no, I think the textarea stuff (916751) is most likely a regression from 911786, though I'm reading the patch now
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  16. # [00:03] <nrc> ah, phew
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  29. # [00:12] <@ehsan> bsmedberg-bbl: I can look at the code if you want... don't have the answer off the top of my head
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  52. # [00:27] <KWierso|afk> um. is talos supposed to look like that?
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  56. # [00:29] <mbrubeck> strangely there are no errors in the logs...
  57. # [00:30] <mbrubeck> just an unexplained 'python run_tests.py ...' failed
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  61. # [00:31] <philor> well, there's the string "Error" in the logs
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  64. # [00:32] <philor> but no, we've been spewing that and green
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  66. # [00:32] <philor> Callek|buildduty: anything in that reconfig that might have affected talos?
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  69. # [00:33] <Callek|buildduty> philor: yes, maybe
  70. # [00:33] <Callek|buildduty> philor: I deployed the talos changes that turned on android mozharness talos on cedar/ash, but it marged changes to production
  71. # [00:33] <Callek|buildduty> at the least
  72. # [00:33] <Callek|buildduty> what are you seeing
  73. # [00:34] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=27938619&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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  75. # [00:34] <philor> death with nothing logged
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  77. # [00:35] <Callek|buildduty> ugh
  78. # [00:35] <Callek|buildduty> that looks annoyingly bad
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  81. # [00:36] <philor> same on beta
  82. # [00:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e739e49b953c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Speculatively backout changeset 926d081e02d6 (bug 904104) for causing intermittent Windows XP debug mochitest-bc crashes.
  83. # [00:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/acce93fb65a1 - Shane Caraveo - Bug 914926 - Fix workers on startup when social disabled. r=markh
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  88. # [00:39] * @bsmedberg-bbl stares at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Fx-Team&jobname=xp.*debug.*chrome&fromchange=4d44bc8da75c&tochange=7cb2b73c7d25 with some skepticism
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  94. # [00:41] <khuey> why did we cancel everything instead of just letting them run?
  95. # [00:42] <RyanVM> khuey: because we needed the slaves for more retriggers
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  97. # [00:42] <RyanVM> and these all fail 10-15 in
  98. # [00:42] <RyanVM> we we were canceling after 25-30
  99. # [00:42] <khuey> lol we ran out of slaves?
  100. # [00:42] <RyanVM> (or more - some ran for an hour+)
  101. # [00:43] <RyanVM> yep
  102. # [00:43] <RyanVM> anyway, you can see by the pink runtimes that they were all well past 10-15min
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  105. # [00:43] <khuey> yeah
  106. # [00:43] <mbrubeck> khuey: I prefer to say we achieved a perfect 100% slave utilization.
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  109. # [00:44] <aja> bsmedberg-bbl: Bug 800347 to ESR24?
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  111. # [00:44] <@bsmedberg-bbl> aja: hrm?
  112. # [00:44] <@dbaron> khuey, are you supposed to be up this early?
  113. # [00:44] <philor> we have 119 slaves, and 182 pending jobs, not quite 100%
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  115. # [00:45] <aja> bsmedberg-bbl: - Bug 800347 - Try clearing RPCChannel in the destructor so that the dequeue task is cancelled properly.
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  117. # [00:45] <aja> that you pushed to beta earlier
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  120. # [00:46] <@bsmedberg-bbl> I have to run, can you ask your question in the bug? I'm still not sure exactly what you're asking.
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  122. # [00:47] <RyanVM> I've gtg now, but I've backed out what fx-team seems to be saying is the cause (as hard to believe as it is)
  123. # [00:47] <RyanVM> back 9:30ish ET
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  126. # [00:47] <khuey> dbaron: well it's 7 am now
  127. # [00:47] <khuey> dbaron: you should have asked me that 2 hours ago ;-)
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  141. # [00:58] <@dbaron> gavin, btw, if you have reliable STR for the textarea corruption, I'd love to hear them in bug 916751. I've seen the bug once, but only once...
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  143. # [00:59] <dholbert> dbaron, I'm pretty sure I saw it at some point over the weekend, too
  144. # [00:59] <dholbert> looked like multiple lines of text stacking on top of each other, IIRC. and copypaste/newline-insertion were involved
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  147. # [00:59] <dholbert> [not that that constitutes STR, just a "me too" :)]
  148. # [00:59] <@gavin> yeah, me too
  149. # [00:59] <@gavin> in the zimbra message compose window
  150. # [01:00] <@gavin> (the quoted text from the email got all messed up)
  151. # [01:00] <@dbaron> dholbert, given that corey's patch touched SlideLine, I'm suspicious of it, but I don't entirely see how it would cause the problem...
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  153. # [01:01] <dholbert> dbaron, seems like your assertion should tell us whether his changes affected behavior or not [for debug builds, at least]
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  222. # [01:45] <+eeejay> did we merge? will inbound open before merge?
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  225. # [01:47] <philor> eeejay: no, no
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  228. # [01:47] <+eeejay> :(
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  231. # [01:48] <+eeejay> philor, so i should push straight to inbound?
  232. # [01:48] <philor> eeejay: the closed inbound? no
  233. # [01:48] <+eeejay> i mean, mc
  234. # [01:48] <philor> no
  235. # [01:48] <+eeejay> the train left the station?
  236. # [01:48] * +eeejay has been waiting patiently on the platform while inbound was closed
  237. # [01:48] <philor> the train is waiting for its engine to be repaired so it can leave the station, but it doesn't need more passengers
  238. # [01:49] * philor considers trying to overstrain the metaphor
  239. # [01:49] <+Unfocused> think you've already achieved that
  240. # [01:49] <philor> if you were to land something now, it would absolutely positively have to be something for which there is no question whatsoever that you could get approval to land it on aurora instead
  241. # [01:49] <+eeejay> craps
  242. # [01:49] <philor> so you should land it on aurora instead
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  244. # [01:50] <+eeejay> philor, you mean. i should get a taxi to the next station?
  245. # [01:50] <philor> well played
  246. # [01:50] <+eeejay> i need approval for that, i assume
  247. # [01:51] <+eeejay> oh.. you mean aurora after merge. gotcha
  248. # [01:52] <mwargers> dholbert, ping, I was just busy rewriting those 2 files to use specialPowers
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  250. # [01:52] <mwargers> dholbert, I see the use of specialpowers in all kinds of crashtests, so that should be working
  251. # [01:52] <jgilbert> mwargers, dholbert just went home
  252. # [01:53] <mwargers> oh, ok
  253. # [01:53] <briansmith> What is the last-known good changeset
  254. # [01:53] <briansmith> on either m-c or m-i
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  259. # [01:54] <philor> perhaps a04d4a573863, perhaps not
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  264. # [01:55] <mbrubeck> briansmith: 99c4c030f100 is probably good
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  266. # [01:55] <briansmith> thank you
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  280. # [02:04] <dholbert> mwargers, gotcha. yay! thanks for closing the loop on that bug. I'd long ago forgotten it. :)
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  283. # [02:05] <mwargers> dholbert, I just stumbled on it
  284. # [02:05] <dholbert> heh
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  320. # [02:31] <philor> okay, now what?
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  323. # [02:32] <WG9s> philor: from retriggers on fx-team it would appear that 926d081e02d6 is the bad changeset.
  324. # [02:32] <@bz> philor: mayhem?
  325. # [02:33] <philor> appearances can be deceiving
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  327. # [02:33] <philor> maybe both together?
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  331. # [02:35] <philor> maybe there's a third above them that recauses it?
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  334. # [02:36] <khuey> Callek|buildduty: ping
  335. # [02:36] <Callek|buildduty> khuey: ugh-oh pong
  336. # [02:37] <khuey> Callek|buildduty: can you get a slave set aside so someone can get this in a debugger?
  337. # [02:37] <Callek|buildduty> khuey: a currently failing specific slave, or any of the same machine type?
  338. # [02:37] <philor> t-xp32-ix
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  340. # [02:37] <Callek|buildduty> khuey: either way, yes I can: https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/How_To/Request_a_slave
  341. # [02:38] <khuey> do you need me to file the bugs?
  342. # [02:38] <Callek|buildduty> khuey: once theres a bug and a name I'll get it for you
  343. # [02:38] <Callek|buildduty> khuey: you or whoever-will-need-it
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  345. # [02:38] <khuey> ok
  346. # [02:38] <philor> oh, ugh, a set of t-xp32-ix that does and one that doesn't would be ugly
  347. # [02:38] <khuey> philor: indeed
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  349. # [02:39] <philor> and also not the case, whew
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  353. # [02:39] <khuey> philor: yeah, it appears to happen across the board
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  357. # [02:40] <khuey> Callek|buildduty: 917075
  358. # [02:40] <khuey> Callek|buildduty: need anything else before I go get breakfast?
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  360. # [02:40] <Callek|buildduty> khuey: aprox urgency, hours, within-a-day, this-week-sometime?
  361. # [02:40] <khuey> Callek|buildduty: well this is to debug what's keeping the tree closed, so ASAP would be nice ;-)
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  363. # [02:41] <Callek|buildduty> khuey: perfect, and the "keeping tree closed" is good enough to file a blocker IT bug for their part too
  364. # [02:41] <Callek|buildduty> thanks
  365. # [02:41] <Callek|buildduty> khuey: I'll grab it within the hour for me
  366. # [02:41] <khuey> Callek|buildduty: awesome, thanks
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  368. # [02:42] <aja> that's cruel
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  374. # [02:45] <WG9s> maybe back out all 4 Shane Caraveo patches?
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  376. # [02:46] <mbrubeck> +1
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  384. # [02:51] <philor> sweet, on win8 too
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  392. # [02:54] <WG9s> Callek|buildduty: well besides the tree being closed, need to sort this in order to do the scheduled uplift to Aurora I would think.
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  395. # [02:55] <Callek|buildduty> WG9s: yep already on it (pings just make it slower) ;-)
  396. # [02:55] <gps> we are going to have some massive inbound breakage once the trees reopen
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  400. # [02:56] <WG9s> Although I suppose could just uplift changset 99c4c030f100 to aurora. We seem to agree that seems to be OK.
  401. # [02:56] <KaiRo> breakages around uplift? wonderful...
  402. # [02:56] <philor> inconceivable!
  403. # [02:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c73bcaef990 - Phil Ringnalda - Backed out changeset 1d12266ddc4c (bug 914927)
  404. # [02:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d2280ea7c8cc - Phil Ringnalda - Backed out changeset acce93fb65a1 (bug 914926)
  405. # [02:57] <KaiRo> esp. when our first regulat B2G uplift is involved as well
  406. # [02:57] <@njn> is there a way to say "hey, C++ compiler, inline this template function if you like, but please leave an instantiation behind as well because other modules want to call it"
  407. # [02:57] <@njn> ?
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  409. # [02:58] <seth> njn: you can explicitly instantiate templates, can't you?
  410. # [02:58] <@njn> seth: yes, but it doesn't seem to help in this case
  411. # [02:59] <@njn> seth: when compiling the TU, the compiler just inlines it away anyway
  412. # [02:59] <@njn> seth: JS_NEVER_INLINE works, but that hurts perf in this particular case
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  415. # [03:02] <seth> njn: that's weird. i'd expect explicit instantiation to have exactly the effect that you wanted...
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  417. # [03:02] <@njn> seth: the compiler is too clever
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  421. # [03:03] <seth> njn: can you take the address of the function somewhere?
  422. # [03:03] <seth> njn: that will surely keep it alive
  423. # [03:04] <@njn> seth: just tried that, doesn't even seem to work?!
  424. # [03:04] <seth> wow.. that's crazy
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  433. # [03:06] <@njn> seth: wow -- I assigned it to a static variable and the compiler still removed it; so I changed that to non-static and now it has stayed!
  434. # [03:06] <seth> njn: very interesting!
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  440. # [03:09] <khuey> Callek|buildduty: do I need to do the Mozilla VPN bit if I'm in an office?
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  442. # [03:09] <Callek|buildduty> khuey: yes
  443. # [03:09] <khuey> ok
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  445. # [03:09] <Callek|buildduty> khuey: will be a few min before the LDAP propagates
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  447. # [03:09] <Callek|buildduty> and we need to wait for the OU switch, but at least you can get started setting up VPN if needed ;-)
  448. # [03:10] <khuey> ah, this is the MPT replacement
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  450. # [03:10] <Callek|buildduty> yep
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  454. # [03:13] <khuey> Callek|buildduty: thanks
  455. # [03:13] <Callek|buildduty> khuey: no problem, and I did get confirmation that the OU switch will happen soon, (I gave the person/people a heads up about that)
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  459. # [03:16] <dietrich> is there a web content regression in today's nightly that causes blank white screen?
  460. # [03:16] <dietrich> i'm seeing it in https://web.tweetdeck.com/#
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  462. # [03:17] <khuey> tweetdeck is busted
  463. # [03:17] <khuey> 916446
  464. # [03:17] <dietrich> thx khuey
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  468. # [03:21] <aja> dietrich: see your browser console
  469. # [03:21] <aja> dietrich: looks like a CSP issue to me
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  473. # [03:22] <khuey> yeah, it is
  474. # [03:22] <khuey> see thebug
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  481. # [03:26] <khuey> so, how do I run "B2G ICS Emulator Opt" on try?
  482. # [03:26] * khuey assumes that translates to "emulator (B2G arm)"
  483. # [03:30] <mina> where do I set the picture that it shows in bugzilla?
  484. # [03:30] * @bz wonders what our l3 access criteria are nowadays
  485. # [03:30] <nrc> mina: gavatar
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  487. # [03:30] <khuey> bz: two peer/owners
  488. # [03:30] <nrc> *gravatar
  489. # [03:30] <@bz> well, yes
  490. # [03:31] <@bz> I mean in terms of "when you need it". ;)
  491. # [03:31] <khuey> when RyanVM|afk gets sick of doing your checkin-neededs? ;-)
  492. # [03:31] <@bz> yeah, that's what I thought
  493. # [03:31] <fabrice1> I though he had a script, full with "reformat your patch" if needed
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  507. # [03:40] <@njn> seth: interesting that clang and GCC were doing this "inline the function completely" thing, even in debug builds, but MSVC doesn't, even in opt builds
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  510. # [03:41] <WG9s> njn: interesting perhaps, but not surprising.
  511. # [03:41] <seth> njn: msvc is the odd one out, what a surprise ;)
  512. # [03:41] <@njn> seth: normally it's the lone red one, rather than the lone non-red one
  513. # [03:42] <seth> hah true
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  520. # [03:46] <RyanVM|afk> fabrice1: nah, I do things the hard way
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  523. # [03:47] <RyanVM> fabrice1: old dog new tricks and all
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  528. # [03:49] <cpearce> does NS_ConvertUTF816toUTF8 null terminate the utf8 string?
  529. # [03:49] <cpearce> NS_ConvertUTF16toUTF8 that is.
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  532. # [03:50] <khuey> UTF816 has big characters
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  534. # [03:50] <cpearce> :P
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  536. # [03:51] <khuey> cpearce: anyways I'm not certain but I believe it does not
  537. # [03:52] <khuey> as in, it doesn't change the null-terminated-ness of the underlying string
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  539. # [03:53] <jcranmer|away> it descends from nsCString, so it is terminated
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  546. # [03:57] <@bz> NS_ConvertUTF16toUTF8 is a null-terminated type
  547. # [03:57] <@bz> like jcranmer|away said
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  550. # [03:57] <cpearce> ok, thanks guys.
  551. # [03:58] <khuey> that's what I get for pretending to understand our string classes ;-)
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  566. # [04:07] <@dbaron> so is philor's latest backout actually expected to be the fix for the orange?
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  568. # [04:07] <khuey> we have no idea
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  570. # [04:08] <@dbaron> I wonder if UTF816 involves ascii-art pictures of the characters. I mean, 102 bytes per character is probably enough for that!
  571. # [04:09] <@dbaron> then again, you could use 1 bit per pixel, too
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  573. # [04:09] <@bz> svg path descriptions
  574. # [04:10] <@bz> 102 bytes of SVG path might get you a good ways
  575. # [04:10] <seth> logo turtle paths
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  577. # [04:10] <seth> we don't need that XML bloat =)
  578. # [04:10] <@bz> 116 bytes, actually
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  580. # [04:11] <@bz> Since high bit is always 0
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  582. # [04:11] <@bz> so you can just use 7 bits per byte
  583. # [04:11] <WG9s> Ohand excuse me if I sound like one of those progam managers I hate in my day job that just want to figure out how to meet a deadline! ;-)
  584. # [04:11] <@bz> seth: SVG paths... aren't XML
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  586. # [04:11] <khuey> dbaron: fwiw, Callek is getting me a slave so I can try to debug the problem
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  588. # [04:11] <Callek|buildduty> in fact my work is technically done, we're waiting for IT now ;-)
  589. # [04:12] <Callek|buildduty> and have a promise of "real soon now"
  590. # [04:12] <@dbaron> Well, I won't hang around waiting to check in the textarea regression fix, then.
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  595. # [04:12] <@dbaron> (and by "hang around", I mean "attempt to stay awake past 8pm")
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  597. # [04:13] <khuey> even if the backout does fix the problem t's likely to be a couple hours before we know
  598. # [04:13] <seth> bz: ah good point, i misinterpreted your suggestion as just "SVG" =)
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  600. # [04:13] <WG9s> dbaron: I am still awake and it is 10:14 here way past my normal bedtime! ;-)
  601. # [04:14] <Callek|buildduty> dbaron: ahh the 8pm kerfew of a parent, how I miss that ;-)
  602. # [04:14] <Callek|buildduty> (also with proper spelling)
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  604. # [04:14] * @dbaron just has jetlag
  605. # [04:14] <WG9s> I am just old I normally fall asleep before this time then wake up at 3AM and can;t get back to sleep again.
  606. # [04:14] <@dbaron> 816 bytes is enough for a 17 x 48 grid at 1bpp
  607. # [04:15] <@dbaron> or 24 x 34
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  610. # [04:15] <@bz> seth: nah, just SVG is clearly overkill
  611. # [04:15] <RyanVM> dbaron: checkin-needed it and I'll get it in the morning (assuming the tree's open then)
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  613. # [04:16] <@dbaron> RyanVM, it's a stack with dependencies, and I may well be awake before you :-)
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  615. # [04:17] <@dbaron> Assertion failure: aFirst && aSecond (Don't pass null pointers!), at /home/dbaron/builds/ssd/mozilla-central/mozilla/caps/src/nsScriptSecurityManager.cpp:941
  616. # [04:17] <@dbaron> again!
  617. # [04:17] <@dbaron> bz, btw, do you have any ideas about that assertion?
  618. # [04:17] <@dbaron> bz, I filed 917009 on it
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  635. # [04:25] <@dbaron> ok, 8 browser crashes in 1 day
  636. # [04:26] <@dbaron> 3 from 916788, 2 from 916602, and 2 from 917009
  637. # [04:26] <@dbaron> and one undiagnosed spew of JS assertions
  638. # [04:27] <@dbaron> possibly as many as 5 of the 8 debug-only
  639. # [04:27] <@dbaron> and I didn't even hit the autocomplete crash today
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  651. # [04:37] <RyanVM> 10 minutes or so before we know if we're good on inbound or not
  652. # [04:38] <Callek|buildduty> spoiler alert, 10 minutes after we are good on inbound we'll need to close it again
  653. # [04:38] <Callek|buildduty> (because someone will have broken it again)
  654. # [04:38] <Callek|buildduty> RyanVM: :-P
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  657. # [04:39] <RyanVM> Callek|buildduty: won't be my problem!
  658. # [04:39] <RyanVM> :D
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  660. # [04:40] <khuey> so where does visual studio hide on fs these days?
  661. # [04:40] <RyanVM> well, so much for that idea
  662. # [04:40] <RyanVM> khuey: one sec, I think I have a link in my emails
  663. # [04:40] <edwin> Anybody seen "ImportError: cannot import name DEFAULT_PORTS" from runtests.py before?
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  665. # [04:40] <RyanVM> o rnot
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  667. # [04:41] <khuey> RyanVM: still busted?
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  669. # [04:41] <@dbaron> is rnot related to mnot? :-P
  670. # [04:41] * khuey gives up and goes looking for less legitimate sources
  671. # [04:42] <khuey> actually I just need the debugger so express is probably fine
  672. # [04:42] <RyanVM> khuey: yeah
  673. # [04:42] <RyanVM> gonna back out a couple more that I suspect
  674. # [04:42] <khuey> RyanVM: just revert the tree
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  676. # [04:43] <khuey> or at least back out 906620
  677. # [04:43] <khuey> but I strongly suggest that you revert the treee
  678. # [04:44] <RyanVM> khuey: consider this my last attempt before reverting
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  680. # [04:44] <RyanVM> but yes, I'm reverting both download manager tests
  681. # [04:44] <RyanVM> patches*
  682. # [04:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1fbc1a15e4bb - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 0d92b16a748b (bug 906620)
  683. # [04:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee7366ad4698 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset a04d4a573863 (bug 914435)
  684. # [04:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef0f3d62cbb2 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 4d44bc8da75c (bug 913110)
  685. # [04:45] <RyanVM> khuey: I suspect 906620 as well
  686. # [04:45] <RyanVM> fwqiw
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  693. # [04:52] <khuey> step 1: install a usable browser on this slave
  694. # [04:53] <RyanVM> khuey: fwiw, we're seeing simliar crashes on win8 now
  695. # [04:53] <Callek> khuey: you mean IE 5.5 isn't usable?
  696. # [04:53] <khuey> RyanVM: woo
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  698. # [04:53] <RyanVM> and bug 913608 seems to be similar in nature
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  700. # [04:54] * RyanVM knew he's seen these kind of asserts before
  701. # [04:54] <khuey> Callek: the "download MSVC" page doesn't render in it
  702. # [04:54] <Callek> hahahahaha
  703. # [04:54] <Callek> ok now thats amusing
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  705. # [04:54] <khuey> is it really 5.5?
  706. # [04:54] <khuey> not event 6?
  707. # [04:54] <khuey> *even
  708. # [04:54] <Callek> probably really 6
  709. # [04:54] <Callek> but its one of the two
  710. # [04:54] <Callek> (since we are on SP2)
  711. # [04:54] <Callek> I think anyway
  712. # [04:54] * khuey is glad you're reimaging this afterwards
  713. # [04:55] <khuey> don't want to imagine how pwned this machine will get after browsing the internet for 5 seconds
  714. # [04:55] <Callek> haha
  715. # [04:55] <Callek> yea its set as untrusted and will get a reimage
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  717. # [04:56] <khuey> Callek: how do I run this as admin on this box?
  718. # [04:56] <khuey> (feel free to answer in pm)
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  720. # [04:57] <Callek> khuey: does the cltbld password I gave you work for Administrator?
  721. # [04:58] * khuey checks
  722. # [04:58] <khuey> Callek: yep!
  723. # [04:58] <khuey> thanks
  724. # [04:59] <Callek> np
  725. # [04:59] <khuey> this machine gets 15MB/s down
  726. # [04:59] <khuey> nice
  727. # [04:59] * khuey wishes he could get that in the office
  728. # [05:02] <khuey> Callek: if I restart this box will it come back up ok?
  729. # [05:02] * khuey grumbles at visual studio's installer
  730. # [05:02] <Callek> khuey: yea, there should not be any problems with restarts
  731. # [05:02] <khuey> excellent
  732. # [05:03] * khuey keeps expecting shit to break but it seems like you guys have this loaning stuff figured out pretty well ;-)
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  734. # [05:03] <Callek> khuey: I use the word should since sometimes (rare) restarts don't properly come up, (say DHCP allocation blips/etc)
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  736. # [05:03] <Callek> khuey: yea, we've streamlined the loaning process lately, and hope to eventually make it pretty close to self-serve and hands-free in the future (merely needing us to ack the requests)
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  741. # [05:04] <philor> oh boy, android x86 tests
  742. # [05:05] * philor looks for his clean fork
  743. # [05:05] <philor> hate to stab myself in the eyes with a dirty one
  744. # [05:05] <Callek> philor: are they somewhere other than cedar/ash?
  745. # [05:05] <philor> Callek: inbound
  746. # [05:05] <Callek> ooo I missed that change
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  748. # [05:05] <RyanVM> lol
  749. # [05:06] <RyanVM> i just asked the same question in #releng
  750. # [05:06] <philor> I think it was something about "shove all the broken shit into later sets, and run the random things that aren't obviously completely busted in the first two sets"
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  753. # [05:08] <RyanVM> edwin: ping
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  755. # [05:08] <philor> it's a neat way around the way we previously wanted to combine unrelated tests in a run, but have them report separately and sanely
  756. # [05:08] <philor> "just don't bother having them report separately, or sanely!"
  757. # [05:09] <edwin> RyanVM: p-... p- pong?
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  759. # [05:09] <RyanVM> so about those media tests you enabled
  760. # [05:09] <Callek> philor: yea, we want to report separately but no idea *how* at this point in time
  761. # [05:09] <RyanVM> philor: you know, for a second I thought they might actually try to work on a way to get 4 concurrent instances running on one host
  762. # [05:09] <RyanVM> *before* taking this out of the experimental phase
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  764. # [05:10] <RyanVM> edwin: now they're crashing on the "green" android x86 test suites that were just enabled
  765. # [05:10] <RyanVM> edwin: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=27930765&tree=Ash
  766. # [05:10] <RyanVM> edwin: I'm going to suggest just adding them to androidx86.json and getting it over with
  767. # [05:11] <edwin> Of fucking course it has its own blacklist. Blah.
  768. # [05:11] <RyanVM> you know it!
  769. # [05:11] <edwin> haha
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  771. # [05:11] <RyanVM> aren't you glad you opened this can of worms? :D
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  774. # [05:11] <edwin> Couldn't be happier
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  776. # [05:12] <RyanVM> edwin: good luck debugging on android x86, btw
  777. # [05:12] <philor> Callek: yeah, sometimes, when you can't do something right, it's better to do it wrong, half-assed, and busted; other times, it's not
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  780. # [05:13] <Callek> philor: I explicitly abstained from this discussion, personally I'd have loved to say "no, we need you to fork money for hardware so we can do it right" instead ;-)
  781. # [05:13] <Callek> but there are other reasons for needing it, and I didn't want to use up the little political weight I had :-)
  782. # [05:13] <edwin> RyanVM: We do have an x86 android device somewhere around here
  783. # [05:13] <Callek> (since I try to save most of my political weight for community needs with SeaMonkey)
  784. # [05:14] <edwin> RyanVM: I can't seem to find any x86 android mochitest runs on inbound
  785. # [05:14] <RyanVM> philor: Callek: edwin: it begins
  786. # [05:14] <philor> fortunately, the final say is in tbpl Tree Info menu, not in shitty political decisions
  787. # [05:14] <edwin> Except for the two pending ones
  788. # [05:14] <RyanVM> edwin: they're intuitively located under "S1" on the tip push
  789. # [05:14] <RyanVM> the bustage I'm referring to is actually on the Ash branch, though
  790. # [05:14] <RyanVM> where they were initially setup
  791. # [05:14] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Ash
  792. # [05:15] <RyanVM> edwin: S1 being mochitest1-4
  793. # [05:15] <RyanVM> because that's how we roll
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  795. # [05:16] <edwin> ... `inconsistely' is how we roll?
  796. # [05:16] <RyanVM> Callek: please humor me that we haven't yet given up on the multiple concurrent instances on one host idea?
  797. # [05:16] <RyanVM> because seriously, who in their right mind thinks that the sets thing will end well?
  798. # [05:17] <Callek> RyanVM: aiui we haven't yet given up on our options here
  799. # [05:17] <RyanVM> i really don't want to be captain negative, but this is just going to lead to tons of confusion
  800. # [05:17] <Callek> I'm not actively involved on the remaining work there though
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  803. # [05:19] <philor> hmm
  804. # [05:20] <philor> since just like android.json, androidx86.json makes it clear we don't really care about running tests, only saying that we run tests, I see a neat solution
  805. # [05:20] <philor> "",
  806. # [05:20] <philor> problem solved
  807. # [05:20] <Callek> RyanVM: philor of course if TBPLv2 becomes real it could read the properties and present a display of multiple jobs :-P
  808. # [05:22] <@dbaron> we really need to stop this out-of-band disabling
  809. # [05:22] <@dbaron> the disabling should be in the tests
  810. # [05:22] <@dbaron> so that people see that it's there
  811. # [05:22] <philor> and maybe we really will fix tryparser, even though the problem has existed since android first needed multiple chunks to run a suite
  812. # [05:22] <@njn> does |static nsCOMPtr<IFoo>| cause a static constructor?
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  816. # [05:23] <heycam> njn, aside: are static constructors ok in debug builds? was thinking of sticking some almost-but-not-quite-static assertions in one.
  817. # [05:23] <@dbaron> njn, I'd think so... isn't there a StaticRefPtr class for that?
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  822. # [05:24] <@njn> heycam: probably ok, I'd guess
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  824. # [05:24] <heycam> njn, ok. (not really sure what the anti-desirability of static constructors is about.)
  825. # [05:25] <@njn> heycam: startup time, AIUI
  826. # [05:25] <heycam> ah
  827. # [05:25] * deian|away is now known as deian
  828. # [05:25] <@njn> heycam: xpcom/base/StaticPtr.h has this comment:
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  830. # [05:25] <@njn> * In particular, a global instance of Static{Auto,Ref}Ptr doesn't cause the
  831. # [05:25] <@njn> * compiler to emit a static initializer (in release builds, anyway).
  832. # [05:25] <@njn> which suggests that debug builds don't matter
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  834. # [05:25] <@dbaron> njn, also other crazy things
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  838. # [05:26] <@dbaron> njn, e.g., they run while a lock in the shared library loader is held, which in on some platforms means that any debugging tools that need symbol-to-address lookup while they're running will deadlock
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  840. # [05:27] * @dbaron thinks there was something else, too
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  843. # [05:28] <heycam> ok. avoid in release, ok in debug. :)
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  845. # [05:28] <@njn> heycam: well, the deadlock thing dbaron said wouldn't be good in debug builds...
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  848. # [05:29] <heycam> ah hmm
  849. # [05:29] <heycam> well hopefully people won't need to debug this bundle of assertions
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  852. # [05:31] <edwin> RyanVM: Is it enough to disable on inbound, or should I do it on Ash? Have to clone if the latter, which is taking ages.
  853. # [05:31] * @dbaron feels like "cancelled build" on tbpl should be a less violent color
  854. # [05:31] <RyanVM> edwin: disabling on inbound is the way to go
  855. # [05:31] <RyanVM> Ash syncs with m-c
  856. # [05:31] <RyanVM> dbaron: always open to suggestions
  857. # [05:31] <khuey> Callek: are you still around?
  858. # [05:31] <RyanVM> dbaron: beats purple
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  860. # [05:32] <heycam> beige build
  861. # [05:32] <Callek> khuey: yes if its easy, maybe if its hard, yes if its very hard
  862. # [05:32] * @dbaron was going to suggest brown-ish
  863. # [05:32] <khuey> Callek: how do I find out what buildprops.json a given test run is using?
  864. # [05:32] <+Unfocused> brown-ish, indicating shit-canned
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  866. # [05:34] <Callek> khuey: we're talking about the bc orange right?
  867. # [05:34] <khuey> Callek: yeah
  868. # [05:34] <Callek> (that answer can vary a bit depending on what run, so going with the current-need)
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  870. # [05:35] * khuey is just trying to recreate the steps here
  871. # [05:35] <RyanVM> dbaron: is this where I finally get to be on the dishing end of "patches welcome" ? ;)
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  875. # [05:40] <Callek> khuey: sorry for delay I just wanted to cross check my answer incase I was wrong
  876. # [05:40] <RyanVM> dbaron: but you know, we've discussed in the past the symbolic merits of being able to turn the tree brown :D
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  879. # [05:41] <khuey> Callek: k
  880. # [05:41] <khuey> Callek: I can edit the entries manually, but if there's one I can copy I would strongly prefer that
  881. # [05:41] <Callek> khuey: from log: |19:28:03 INFO - Running main action method: read_buildbot_config| the following is the json of the buildprops.json as passed through json.dumps()
  882. # [05:41] <Callek> khuey: e.g. in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=27945817&tree=Mozilla-Inbound&full=1
  883. # [05:43] <khuey> Callek: aha
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  886. # [05:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e50c18dc2122 - Edwin Flores - Bug 899420 - Disable accidentally enabled Android x86 media tests on a CLOSED TREE r=bustage
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  890. # [05:49] <khuey> Callek: omg it's actually running stuff
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  893. # [05:50] <Callek> khuey: yea mozharness makes the act of running tests identically to our automation a lot easier than it used to be :-)
  894. # [05:51] <Callek> we still have ways to go to make things even easier all around, but we're definitely improved on where we were years ago :-)
  895. # [05:51] * khuey waits for it to aslpode
  896. # [05:51] <khuey> *asplode even
  897. # [05:52] <RyanVM> khuey: help us kyle huey, you're our only hope
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  901. # [05:53] <khuey> RyanVM: did the latest backout fail?
  902. # [05:53] <RyanVM> waiting
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  906. # [05:53] <RattyAway> Who are the media/vpx experts around here?
  907. # [05:53] <RattyAway> /builds/slave/c-cen-t-lnx-dbg/build/mozilla/media/libvpx/vp8/encoder/asm_enc_offsets.c:82:1: fatal error: opening dependency file .deps/asm_enc_offsets.s.pp: No such file or directory
  908. # [05:53] <RattyAway> compilation terminated.
  909. # [05:53] <RattyAway> make[6]: *** [asm_enc_offsets.s] Error 1
  910. # [05:53] <khuey> RyanVM: ok, you scared me
  911. # [05:53] <RattyAway> make[6]: *** Deleting file `asm_enc_offsets.s'
  912. # [05:53] <RattyAway> make[6]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
  913. # [05:53] <RyanVM> RattyAway: cpearce?
  914. # [05:54] <RattyAway> When is he around?
  915. # [05:54] <RattyAway> timezones make my head spin
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  917. # [05:55] <heycam> it's 4pm in his tz
  918. # [05:55] <edwin> busted
  919. # [05:55] <cpearce> RattyAway: hi
  920. # [05:55] <cpearce> RattyAway: edwin is also a media expert :P
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  922. # [05:56] <RattyAway> cpearce:I have a random red.
  923. # [05:56] <RattyAway> http://tbpl-dev.callek.net/php/getParsedLog.php?id=20807812&tree=SeaMonkey#error0
  924. # [05:56] <RyanVM> cpearce: yes, I've quite enjoyed making edwin my new media whipping boy :P :D
  925. # [05:56] <RattyAway> o.O
  926. # [05:57] <cpearce> RyanVM: Please continue! :D
  927. # [05:57] <edwin> *sigh*
  928. # [05:57] <RyanVM> hahahaha
  929. # [05:57] * edwin shops for gimp suit for summit
  930. # [05:57] <RyanVM> lmao
  931. # [05:57] <Callek> RattyAway: that looks almost like its a build config issue fwiw... but I'm too tired to look closer
  932. # [05:57] <nrc> edwin++
  933. # [05:57] <khuey> RyanVM: is it always in these places tests?
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  935. # [05:57] <cpearce> RattyAway: do you have yasm installed?
  936. # [05:57] <khuey> in other words if I get past that should I just start over?
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  938. # [05:57] <RyanVM> edwin: if only you'd said that in #ateam so that face could pick that up for the future
  939. # [05:57] <RyanVM> khuey: correct
  940. # [05:58] <Callek> cpearce: YASM is installed, its not the exact same ver as what MoCo has though (we're on cent5 still, :/ )
  941. # [05:58] <RattyAway> cpearce: Callek is our build config expert
  942. # [05:58] <RyanVM> khuey: places/tests/browser/browser_library_views_liveupdate.js and places/tests/browser/browser_markPageAsFollowedLink.js seem to be the most common
  943. # [05:58] <RyanVM> edwin: face logs all /me comments and uses them randomly
  944. # [05:58] <cpearce> we seem to be overflowing with experts today.
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  946. # [05:59] <RattyAway> Callek: seems to be random. Perhaps our OOM issues?
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  948. # [05:59] <Callek> RattyAway: possible, but I'd be surprised here
  949. # [05:59] <Callek> especially given the message
  950. # [05:59] <philor> wow, there's actually some randomgreen on the seamonkey tree?
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  952. # [06:00] <RattyAway> Callek:well if it was yasm it would be perma red
  953. # [06:00] <RattyAway> philor: only if you squint really hard
  954. # [06:01] <Callek> philor: we try real hard to at least keep the occasional green there, its how we know to not sign the DNR order
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  962. # [06:05] <WG9s> also to know that all the colors on the monitors still work! ;-)
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  967. # [06:12] <jesup> Callek/RattyAway: check to make sure that on FF desktop it's actually assembling the asm_enc_offsets.c; IIRC there are some evilnesses/work-arounds for some issues with the _offsets* files in vp8. But it's been a while, and I forget why it bit me. <-- derf
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  969. # [06:13] <RattyAway> jesup: thanks!
  970. # [06:15] <RattyAway> oooo new GTA is out...
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  978. # [06:20] <jesup> RattyAway: Yawn. Drove a Lamborghini Gallardo and a Ferrari today. Real ones. :-) At speed :-D
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  981. # [06:22] <edwin> Off a boat ramp? Into a helicopter?
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  983. # [06:22] <edwin> I didn't think so.
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  988. # [06:24] <jesup> edwin: got me there
  989. # [06:25] <khuey> somebody should play final countdown for the tree
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  992. # [06:26] <vlad> have we not had a win32 nightly the last two days?
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  995. # [06:26] <vlad> khuey: I still owe you an email.. tomorrow :/
  996. # [06:26] <vlad> or, well, later today your time :p
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  998. # [06:27] <khuey> vlad: yeah
  999. # [06:27] <glob> khuey, http://glob.com.au/landfill/final-countdown/ ?
  1000. # [06:27] <khuey> vlad: that would be nice ;-)
  1001. # [06:27] <khuey> oh look I caught the problem in a debugger
  1002. # [06:29] <khuey> ugh, fuck
  1003. # [06:29] <khuey> do we not have a symbol server for tinderbox builds?
  1004. # [06:29] <vlad> hrrm, I thought we did, but maybe I'm just confused
  1005. # [06:30] <vlad> I hope we jsut AWS S3 all that goop and expire after a year or something!
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  1008. # [06:31] <nthomas|away> khuey: how far back to you want to go ?
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  1010. # [06:32] <khuey> nthomas|away: a few hours
  1011. # [06:32] <nthomas|away> symbol server is nightlies + releases, but there are zip files on ftp.m.o
  1012. # [06:33] <khuey> mmm
  1013. # [06:33] <khuey> ok
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  1015. # [06:33] <nthomas|away> use 'go to build directory' on tbpl to find the files
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  1019. # [06:38] <philor> hmm, quite a while without a failure
  1020. # [06:38] <khuey> nthomas|away: hmm, I don't see a crashreporter-symbols-full.zip
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  1023. # [06:39] <nthomas|away> oh, there's only the slim version with the sym files
  1024. # [06:39] <RyanVM> philor: holy crap they're still running
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  1026. # [06:39] <philor> RyanVM: yeah, just triggered the extra-sure twenty more, but... that's quite a while
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  1028. # [06:39] <RyanVM> philor: i guess I can go to bed now
  1029. # [06:40] <RyanVM> i still suspect bug 906620
  1030. # [06:41] <RyanVM> philor: I never commented the various bugs. Do you mind doing that? I can do it in the morning otherwise.
  1031. # [06:41] <khuey> nthomas: does MSVC know how to use .sym files?
  1032. # [06:41] <khuey> I don't think it does
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  1034. # [06:41] <RyanVM> comments/reopened/cleared TM, that is
  1035. # [06:41] <philor> RyanVM: we'll see how I do, what with out-in-outs :)
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  1038. # [06:42] <RyanVM> philor: by my count, out is bug 904104, 914926, 914927, 914435, 906620, 913110
  1039. # [06:42] <RyanVM> and by comment I mean "try run with 10-20 mochitest-bc retriggers before relanding"
  1040. # [06:43] <philor> cheapskate; 30 shall be the number thou shalt trigger, no more, no less
  1041. # [06:44] <RyanVM> heh
  1042. # [06:44] <RyanVM> wfm
  1043. # [06:45] <RyanVM> well, the first batch is 20min in w/o dying
  1044. # [06:45] <RyanVM> lgtm
  1045. # [06:45] <RyanVM> philor: i assume you'll merge to m-c and around from there?
  1046. # [06:45] <philor> yup
  1047. # [06:45] <RyanVM> thanks :)
  1048. # [06:45] <RyanVM> night
  1049. # [06:46] <philor> g'night
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  1051. # [06:46] <jesup> night. thanks!
  1052. # [06:46] <khuey> fuck
  1053. # [06:46] <khuey> so I can't actually debug this
  1054. # [06:47] <khuey> not like having pdbs would be useful or anything :-(
  1055. # [06:47] <nthomas> khuey: got a link to the log, maybe the slave hasn't done another job the same yet
  1056. # [06:48] <nthomas> ... and I can pull the full symbols off it
  1057. # [06:48] <khuey> nthomas: too late, already killed the debugger
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  1070. # [07:05] <philor> a brand new assertion and failure was not exactly what I was looking for
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  1076. # [07:13] <philor> and some of that stack looks a tiny bit suspect
  1077. # [07:14] <philor> NSS_CMSSignerInfo_AddMSSMIMEEncKeyPrefs seems unlikely while filling urlbar autocomplete
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  1107. # [07:46] <jesup> philor: without looking at the funcs... the xp linker will merge functions that happen to be identical (or virtually so), which can lead to some odd stacks. Usually these are "simple" funcs like getters/setters, etc, so it may not apply here
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  1123. # [08:02] <philor> a likely story!
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  1132. # [08:06] <Tomcat> mjrosenb: i'm on 10.8.5
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  1136. # [08:07] <mjrosenb> Tomcat: a friend who is not horribly interested in debugging reports that he can reliably hang fx with a clean profile on 10.8.4 by visiting www.wikipedia.org (not en.wikipedia.org)
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  1138. # [08:08] <philor> wow, linux32 debug browser-chrome, which we never managed to shift over to ec2, takes two hours to run
  1139. # [08:08] <mjrosenb> I was unable to repro with my mac mini running 10.7.?
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  1142. # [08:09] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> oh :) even need to update to 23.01 :)
  1143. # [08:09] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> one point to miss when you always run nightlys :)
  1144. # [08:10] <glob> mjrosenb, doesn't hang on 10.8.5 with nightly
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  1147. # [08:11] <glob> mjrosenb, doesn't hang on 23.0.1 either
  1148. # [08:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mjrosenb: yeah wfm too
  1149. # [08:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> also no warnings etc in the error console
  1150. # [08:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> only css warnings
  1151. # [08:12] <glob> tested on both retina and standard screens
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  1153. # [08:12] <mjrosenb> < redacted> mjrosenb: okay, so i looked at it in osx's profiler, it has no symbols but all of the time is spent in this one function at 0x10269f850
  1154. # [08:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey philor so we know which changeset caused the windows assertion ? (according to the bug)
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  1157. # [08:13] <philor> Tomcat|sheriffduty: no, we don't, we only know that after we backed out six or eight things, we haven't hit it since
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  1159. # [08:13] <philor> but at this point, that feels close enough
  1160. # [08:14] <philor> or it would, if that stupid linux32 debug b-c would finish
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  1163. # [08:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh :) yeah
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  1165. # [08:16] <philor> once it does, I'm poised to fling inbound around everywhere and reopen and then shut down and go to bed before they start breaking your tree, as they'll do all night and well into the morning
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  1167. # [08:18] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> philor: yeah i agree sounds good to me
  1168. # [08:18] <philor> and there we go
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  1174. # [08:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/adb9fbeec38d - Ben Turner - Bug 900711, fix bustage a=lsblakk
  1175. # [08:20] <philor> akeybl: ping
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  1177. # [08:21] <philor> because on second thought, I don't actually know what to do with the status of m-c
  1178. # [08:22] <philor> open it up for a free-for-all of hopefuls trying to directly catch the 26 train?
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  1183. # [08:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> or opening up inbound first to see how the tree reacts for the next pushes and then merging later to mc
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  1189. # [08:26] <philor> after a 24 hour closure? good luck getting a mergeable cset from inbound in the next 12 or so hours
  1190. # [08:26] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm yeah good point
  1191. # [08:27] <philor> best bet is probably to open integration/*, and switch m-c to "CLOSED to hang onto something we'll be able to merge"
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  1193. # [08:27] <philor> open integration/* to things that are going to wind up in 27, that is
  1194. # [08:27] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
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  1206. # [08:34] <philor> and we have a winner for first landing on inbound, which according to statistics is 100% certain to fail and be backed out
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  1210. # [08:35] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> philor: think positiv :)
  1211. # [08:36] <philor> I'm positive it'll fail and be backed out
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  1213. # [08:36] <tn> sweet, i'm second, so i'm safe
  1214. # [08:36] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
  1215. # [08:36] <philor> safer, the odds drop quickly, but not to zero
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  1349. # [10:08] <paul> Is there an easy way to know if a docshell is included in another docshell?
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  1385. # [10:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13eeedac24b4 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 911822 - TraceLogging: Update start, stop logging positions of the interpreter, r=till
  1386. # [10:28] <edmorley|sheriffduty> nigelb: that's great news about the visa :-)
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  1388. # [10:29] <nigelb> edmorley|sheriffduty: :)
  1389. # [10:30] <darktrojan> oh?
  1390. # [10:30] <NeilAway> khuey: what's wrong with nsPrintfCString? it's not the old 16-byte string it used to be
  1391. # [10:30] <nigelb> darktrojan: Not to NZ ;)
  1392. # [10:30] <nigelb> To the summit :D
  1393. # [10:30] <darktrojan> good, we still don't want you :P
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  1395. # [10:30] <nigelb> haha
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  1399. # [10:31] <darktrojan> I should take advantage of kiwis being able to go most places without a visa
  1400. # [10:32] <edmorley|sheriffduty> nigelb: will see you at Santa Clara
  1401. # [10:32] <nigelb> edmorley|sheriffduty: ah, you're headed to SC too! Awesome! :)
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  1404. # [10:33] <glandium> edmorley|sheriffduty: i'll see you there too, then
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  1407. # [10:34] <nigelb> Just a little over 2 weeks to go! :)
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  1423. # [10:50] <@roc> khuey: what's wrong with nsPrintfCString?
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  1425. # [10:52] <khuey> roc: well it used to have some magic limit beyond which it didn't work
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  1427. # [10:52] <khuey> roc: although maybe that's fixed based on NeilAway's comment
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  1440. # [10:59] <hsivonen> If I change Gecko in a way that affects code in SeaMonkey that's probably bogus anyway, is it okay if I just comment the bogus stuff out and file a follow-up for SeaMonkey devs to figure it out?
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  1443. # [11:00] <khuey> I think that depends on whether they see you do it before it lands or after
  1444. # [11:00] <khuey> :-P
  1445. # [11:01] <hsivonen> khuey: I take that as a "yes"
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  1447. # [11:01] <Gijs> Anyone know about focusManager.activeWindow and how we use it in mochitests, and what I might be doing wrong when I'm opening a second window, closing it again, and then ending a test, for the framework to get stuck because there's no active window according to the focus manager?
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  1451. # [11:02] <hsivonen> I'm generally unhappy about comm-central using charset-related stuff in nsIMarkupDocumentViewer in cargo cultish ways
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  1464. # [11:09] <NeilAway> khuey: bug 743056
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  1473. # [11:13] <mcsmurf> hsivonen: it would certainly be nice if you file a SeaMonkey bug on this :)
  1474. # [11:13] <mcsmurf> then we know about it
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  1477. # [11:14] <hsivonen> mcsmurf: ok
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  1490. # Session Ident: #developers
  1491. # [19:55] * Now talking in #developers
  1492. # [19:55] * Topic is 'Next uplift 28 Oct || Want help, or want to help others? See #introduction || http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=developers'
  1493. # [19:55] * Set by Gijs on Tue Sep 17 19:27:01
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  1495. # [19:56] <nmatsakis> philor: RyanVM|sheriffduty: so, to push to aurora, do I need particular flags (for bug 917360)?
  1496. # [19:56] <Waldo> RyanVM|sheriffduty: do I need approval to land orange-fixes in trees closed for non-infra reasons, or no?
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  1498. # [19:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nmatsakis: a=bustage WFM
  1499. # [19:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> or a=akeybl since he did that in the bug
  1500. # [19:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Waldo: CLOSED TREE in the commit message is fine
  1501. # [19:57] <nmatsakis> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok thanks
  1502. # [19:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nmatsakis: thank you :)
  1503. # [19:57] <Waldo> RyanVM|sheriffduty: cool, didn't remember if I needed to get permission for landing orange-fixes or not, these days
  1504. # [19:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Waldo: never hurts to ask :)
  1505. # [19:57] <Waldo> to a point :-)
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  1507. # [19:58] <Waldo> and landified
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  1512. # [19:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b518ccbf1ee - Jeff Walden - Bug 916394 - Change expected results for an it-using test that crept in since tryservering. r=orange in a CLOSED TREE
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  1514. # [20:00] <@ehsan> yay! Aurora is now written in C++ \o/
  1515. # [20:00] <WeirdAl> ehsan: ?
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  1517. # [20:00] <@ehsan> WeirdAl: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=917348
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  1542. # [20:11] <Waldo> anyone know offhand if there's a bug on file for the lower-left TBPL UI to comment being barely visible if the box name line-wraps like so: http://web.mit.edu/jwalden/www/tbpl.png the comment link's clickable, so no functionality loss, but only barely
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  1546. # [20:13] <philor> "The names for SpiderMonkey shell builds are too damn long!"
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  1549. # [20:13] <philor> which I don't think is filed, because I'm the only one who looks at them
  1550. # [20:13] <edmorley> Waldo: there isn't one filed, no
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  1552. # [20:14] <Waldo> edmorley: guess I'll file one then
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  1562. # [20:17] <sfink> philor: I can change it. How about "a7b03549-d5d1-49a9-a06b-0bb4b94cf8f7"?
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  1569. # [20:21] <Waldo> 09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0 would work too
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  1571. # [20:21] <Waldo> man, that's ancient Interwebs history now, isn't it
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  1574. # [20:22] <sfink> on the other hand, I think I'll refuse to do any renaming until somebody gets rid of the "leak test" in the debug builder names
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  1576. # [20:22] <gfritzsche> weird find: underflow events do trigger if only dimension of an element underflows... bug or intentional?
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  1583. # [20:25] <philor> Waldo: anyway, the reason I've never really cared is the C key - maybe if I starred on things without a keyboard I'd worry about it
  1584. # [20:25] * geekboy|afk is now known as geekboy
  1585. # [20:26] <Yoric> Can someone confirm whether |./mach xpcshell-test -i| works?
  1586. # [20:26] <Yoric> I can't seem to be able to launch it.
  1587. # [20:26] <Yoric> (I pulled a few hours ago)
  1588. # [20:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/289d0d34ded7 - Alex Keybl - m-c is now FxOS 1.3 r=merge NO BUG
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  1593. # [20:29] <Waldo> bug 917434 filed
  1594. # [20:30] <mbrubeck> Yoric: |mach xpcshell-test -i| is successfully running tests on my Windows system, but it didn't launch the promised interactive shell
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  1596. # [20:31] <Yoric> mbrubeck: For me, it shows a Python error.
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  1598. # [20:31] <mbrubeck> (I'm running fx-team tip)
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  1602. # [20:32] <Waldo> hmm, N C Ctrl+V Tab Enter is seductive compared to mouse-clicking
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  1608. # [20:35] <mbrubeck> :)
  1609. # [20:35] <stefanh_netbook> Gijs: how do you guys decide whether a patch just land on ux or on both ux and m-c?
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  1612. # [20:36] <Gijs> stefanh_netbook: if things are useful for m-c, it lands there, too. (although usually that'd mean it lands on fx-team/inbound first, and then gets merged)
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  1614. # [20:36] <Gijs> stefanh_netbook: why, was there a concrete change you were wondering about?
  1615. # [20:36] <stefanh_netbook> Gijs: yeah, bug 870865
  1616. # [20:38] <Gijs> stefanh_netbook: huh, yeah, I have no idea why that didn't just land on m-c.
  1617. # [20:38] <Gijs> stefanh_netbook: all the more because it conflicted in one of the recent merges!
  1618. # [20:38] <Gijs> mikedeboer: ^^^ any reason not to land that on m-c? (bug 870865)
  1619. # [20:39] <paolo> RyanVM|sheriffduty: there's a patch that landed on m-i that may trivially conflict with fx-team (bug 908256)
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  1622. # [20:39] <paolo> if it helps, I've attached a version rebased on fx-team
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  1625. # [20:40] <Gijs> stefanh_netbook: that the only one? :)
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  1627. # [20:40] <stefanh_netbook> Gijs: yeah :-)
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  1629. # [20:40] <stefanh_netbook> Gijs: note my comment: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=870865#c28
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  1631. # [20:41] <Gijs> Yeah... I'm not sure why that wasn't picked up, it must have slipped through. I personally don't see any reason why it can't land on fx-team/inbound, and then on m-c.
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  1633. # [20:41] <Gijs> Sorry. :(
  1634. # [20:41] <sfink> Waldo: N space N space N space... C Ctrl-V Tab Enter is even more fun. Though I use j/k instead of n/p. And it seems to be opening the results window now, so it'd be better to go backwards.
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  1637. # [20:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> paolo: thanks for the heads-up
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  1641. # [20:41] <stefanh_netbook> Gijs: don't worry, I should have talked to you from the beginning ;-)
  1642. # [20:42] <Gijs> stefanh_netbook: it seems mikedeboer might be off for the evening... I'll needinfo him on the bug, and hopefully we can get this merged soon. Thanks for bringing it up!
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  1644. # [20:42] <stefanh_netbook> Gijs: cool, thanks
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  1683. # [20:58] <shu> ted: ping
  1684. # [20:59] <@ted> shu: pong
  1685. # [20:59] <shu> ted: where can i get the profiler addon referred to in bug 917401?
  1686. # [21:00] <BenWa> shu: https://github.com/bgirard/Gecko-Profiler-Addon/raw/master/geckoprofiler.xpi
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  1689. # [21:00] <shu> BenWa: ty
  1690. # [21:00] <@ted> sorry, thought that was common knowledge
  1691. # [21:01] * @ted is a little punchy from having so many JS engine crashes lately
  1692. # [21:02] <shu> ted: hmm, it's a windows-only crash?
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  1694. # [21:02] <@ted> shu: i haven't actually tried on my other machines
  1695. # [21:03] <@ted> but it's definitely 100% reproducible on my windows machine
  1696. # [21:03] <BenWa> shu: I couldnt reproduce on mac but only tried once
  1697. # [21:03] <shu> ted: BenWa: couldn't reproduce on linux 64bit just now
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  1703. # [21:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/acabf9f0d5bd - ffxbld - Added FENNEC_25_0b1_RELEASE FENNEC_25_0b1_BUILD1 tag(s) for changeset 70f623634ce9. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
  1704. # [21:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/70f623634ce9 - ffxbld - Automated checkin: version bump for fennec 25.0b1 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
  1705. # [21:05] <@ted> shu: yeah, doesn't repro in my linux64 nightly either
  1706. # [21:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/143e8c67cf1b - ffxbld - Automated checkin: version bump for firefox 25.0b1 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
  1707. # [21:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/241ba1ce1bf9 - ffxbld - Added FIREFOX_25_0b1_RELEASE FIREFOX_25_0b1_BUILD1 tag(s) for changeset 143e8c67cf1b. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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  1728. # [21:11] <AutomatedTester> anyone know how to disable doorhangers for missing plugins?
  1729. # [21:12] <Gijs> Let's say I have a module A, and module B that depends on module A... and I want module B to load as soon as module A loads. How do I accomplish that?
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  1734. # [21:12] <Gijs> (Cu.import from module A to B is problematic because I already have a Cu.import from B to A, so it then all falls apart)
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  1737. # [21:13] <@gavin> Gijs: why do you want B to load as soon as A does?
  1738. # [21:13] <Mook_as> Gijs: I'm going to guess "category manager entry" isn't the sort of answer you're looking for :p
  1739. # [21:13] <Gijs> gavin: because A broadcasts notifications and B should essentially get all of them.
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  1746. # [21:16] <gfritzsche> AutomatedTester: for flash we have the pref "plugins.notifyMissingFlash", doesn't look like something for the rest
  1747. # [21:16] <gfritzsche> not sure though
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  1750. # [21:17] <AutomatedTester> gfritzsche: thanks
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  1757. # [21:20] <@ehsan> bent: your patch works great here
  1758. # [21:20] <@ehsan> bent: wanna ask for review on it?
  1759. # [21:20] <bent> ehsan, it doesn't though
  1760. # [21:20] <bent> ehsan, once you try to use ICU
  1761. # [21:21] <@ehsan> bent: what happens then
  1762. # [21:21] <@ehsan> ?
  1763. # [21:21] <@ehsan> (the symbols are properly exported)
  1764. # [21:21] <bent> unresolved externals
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  1766. # [21:21] <bent> not all of them
  1767. # [21:21] <@ehsan> oh
  1768. # [21:21] <@ehsan> which ones?
  1769. # [21:21] <bent> any that mozjs.dll doesn't actually use
  1770. # [21:21] <bent> so... lots
  1771. # [21:21] <@ehsan> that's surprising
  1772. # [21:21] <@ehsan> exported symbols should not be eliminated by the linker
  1773. # [21:21] <@ehsan> (right?)
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  1775. # [21:22] <bent> i think the problem is that we're building a dynamic library using imported static libraries
  1776. # [21:22] <bent> and that process only pulls what is needed
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  1779. # [21:22] <bz> ah, true
  1780. # [21:22] <@ehsan> let me poke through the objdir
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  1784. # [21:23] <bent> if instead we listed all the individual obj's i think it would work
  1785. # [21:23] <bent> but we just use whatever icu generates
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  1789. # [21:25] <bent> (otherwise we have to 'use' all the classes in mozjs.dll somehow, one of those unused functions)
  1790. # [21:26] <@ehsan> bent: so does that mean that the linker just doesn't honour __declspec(dllexport)?
  1791. # [21:26] <bent> it does
  1792. # [21:26] <bent> it just doesn't even see those symbols unless they're needed in the dll
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  1798. # [21:27] <@ehsan> that's retarded!
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  1804. # [21:28] <philor> nmatsakis: got some more parallelarray bustage on aurora
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  1817. # [21:28] <nmatsakis> philor: ok
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  1831. # [21:29] <bent> ehsan, that's why we have http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/library/dlldeps-xul.cpp for example
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  1834. # [21:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> err, tbpl not loading for anyone else?
  1835. # [21:29] <@ehsan> hmm, yeah you're right
  1836. # [21:30] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: no, you can't have the rest of the day off
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  1839. # [21:30] <philor> also wfm, I can see how the tip of fx-team is leaking like a sieve
  1840. # [21:30] <davidb> RyanVM|sheriffduty: WFM
  1841. # [21:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: don't be so sure about that
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  1846. # [21:30] <@ted> bent: the sad part is that we don't build static libs in our build system, because it's dumb
  1847. # [21:30] <RyanVM|afk> philor: yeah, I'm assuming bug 910236
  1848. # [21:30] <@ted> but when we build external projects...
  1849. # [21:31] <RyanVM|afk> philor: the bank, close enough :P
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  1852. # [21:31] <bent> ted, yeah, is there any way to unzip a .lib at link time and just manually include all the objs?
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  1855. # [21:32] <@ted> bent: it's doable, just sucks
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  1863. # [21:33] <@ehsan> ted: bent: I thought .lib files are not simple archives?
  1864. # [21:34] <@ehsan> ted: is there any chance of us using our own build system to build icu?
  1865. # [21:34] <@ehsan> that would fix all of the things for us
  1866. # [21:34] <bent> yeah, but there are tools to mess with them
  1867. # [21:34] <gps> ehsan: that would require work
  1868. # [21:34] <@ehsan> gps: what kind of work?
  1869. # [21:34] <gps> porting it
  1870. # [21:34] <gps> keeping it in sync
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  1872. # [21:35] <@ehsan> bent: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/488809/tools-for-inspecting-lib-files
  1873. # [21:35] <@ehsan> maybe we can stick that stuff into a .def file?
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  1879. # [21:37] <bent> ehsan, /me thinks it is better to try moving mozjs.dll back into xul.dll
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  1881. # [21:37] <@ehsan> hmm
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  1883. # [21:37] <bent> now that we have a better handle on PGO
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  1887. # [21:37] <@ehsan> I don't remember exactly why we took it out... iirc it was because of a PGO bug
  1888. # [21:37] <@ehsan> not the memory usage issue
  1889. # [21:37] <@ehsan> ted: gps: do you guys remember?
  1890. # [21:37] <bent> but it's PGO-disabled right?
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  1892. # [21:38] <@ehsan> mozjs? I don't think so
  1893. # [21:38] <tbsaunde> anyone have an idea what could cause https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=27984733&tree=Try
  1894. # [21:38] <@ehsan> but I could be wrong
  1895. # [21:38] <bent> no
  1896. # [21:38] <bent> it's on
  1897. # [21:39] <bent> hm
  1898. # [21:39] <@ted> ehsan: pretty sure it was the PGO memory
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  1900. # [21:39] <@ted> i mean
  1901. # [21:39] <@ted> we didn't *take it out*
  1902. # [21:39] <@ted> we just didn't fold it
  1903. # [21:39] <@ted> on windows
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  1905. # [21:39] <bent> ehsan, i think it's a better use of time to try folding it rather than trying to do nasty build hacks on ICU :)
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  1907. # [21:40] <@ehsan> ted: where's the switch to put it back in?
  1908. # [21:40] <@ehsan> bent: agreed
  1909. # [21:40] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/configure.in#7840
  1910. # [21:40] <@ted> right there
  1911. # [21:40] <@ted> oh
  1912. # [21:40] <@ehsan> oh
  1913. # [21:40] <@ted> i guess there was a compiler crash
  1914. # [21:40] <@ehsan> VS2005
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  1916. # [21:40] <@ehsan> I'm sure that's still relevant :P
  1917. # [21:41] <@ehsan> let me do a try push
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  1919. # [21:41] <bent> \o/
  1920. # [21:41] * @ted faulty memory
  1921. # [21:41] <@ted> go ahead
  1922. # [21:41] <@ehsan> ted: you mean your memory is not infallible?
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  1925. # [21:41] * @ehsan should null-check ted's responses from now on
  1926. # [21:42] <bent> ehsan, that's $0.50 for the Pun-Tax jar, please
  1927. # [21:42] <@ted> heyo
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  1929. # [21:42] <@ehsan> hehe
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  1931. # [21:42] <@ehsan> bent: it was kind of tasteless, I'd have expected it cost me more!
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  1937. # [21:43] <@ehsan> oh
  1938. # [21:43] <@ehsan> now I have to re-remember how to do PGO builds on try :(
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  1940. # [21:44] <tbsaunde> ehsan: the pun tax comes after the being ehsan tax ;)
  1941. # [21:44] <@ehsan> lol
  1942. # [21:44] <@ehsan> anybody remember how to do PGO builds on try?
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  1945. # [21:44] <tbsaunde> export MOZ_PGO=1 in appropriate mozconfig
  1946. # [21:44] <bz> ehsan: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Build:TryChooser#What_if_I_want_PGO_for_my_build
  1947. # [21:44] * bz has it in his bookmarks. :(
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  1949. # [21:44] <@ehsan> dammit
  1950. # [21:44] <@ehsan> I was looking at https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryServer
  1951. # [21:45] <@ehsan> thanks, bz
  1952. # [21:45] <@ehsan> and tbsaunde
  1953. # [21:45] <bz> ehsan: No problem
  1954. # [21:45] <bz> And yeah, docs...
  1955. # [21:45] <bent> it's conceivable that PGO over gecko+js could be a nice win
  1956. # [21:45] * bz suggests starring it
  1957. # [21:45] <bz> and tagging "try pgo"
  1958. # [21:45] <bz> which is what I have. ;)
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  1960. # [21:45] <bent> over the two separately
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  1962. # [21:45] <ferjm> are there any good docs for understanding about:memory output?
  1963. # [21:46] <bent> ferjm, there are tooltips!
  1964. # [21:46] <bent> (better than docs?)
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  1966. # [21:46] <@ehsan> bent: pushed to try
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  1969. # [21:47] <@ehsan> bz: good idea
  1970. # [21:47] <sfink> oh, this is not good
  1971. # [21:47] <@ehsan> bent: so do I
  1972. # [21:47] <sfink> my browser is taking 7GB of RAM right now
  1973. # [21:47] <sfink> 70% heap-unclassified
  1974. # [21:47] <sfink> njn!
  1975. # [21:47] <@ehsan> ferjm: we have a bot called njn, on Australian timezone, who can answer questions :)
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  1979. # [21:48] <ferjm> bent, that's right :) but I was hoping to find a doc for lazy people like me :)
  1980. # [21:49] <ferjm> ehsan, heh, good to know, thanks :)
  1981. # [21:49] <bent> ferjm, yeah, those tooltips are really the best we have i think
  1982. # [21:49] <bent> though,
  1983. # [21:49] <bent> you can see them in the source, no need for an actual build
  1984. # [21:49] <@ehsan> ferjm: sometimes when I get desparate I look at the source as well...
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  1987. # [21:50] <bent> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/aboutmemory/content/aboutMemory.js#1192 for example
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  1989. # [21:51] <bent> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCJSRuntime.cpp#1972 is better
  1990. # [21:51] <bent> that's most of them
  1991. # [21:51] <bent> ferjm, ^
  1992. # [21:52] <sfink> ugh. 860 tabs open right now (61 loaded). That doesn't make it easy to narrow down.
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  2029. # [22:09] <shu> does anyone have an example .mozconfig for compiling 32bit on a 64bit machine?
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  2031. # [22:09] <shu> 64bit linux machine
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  2034. # [22:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6bfcffd02d97 - Douglas Crosher - Bug 916413 - Odinmonkey: Disable attempts to hoist bounds checks when compiling asm.js code as it is not applicable. r=luke
  2035. # [22:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/06f35795582a - Douglas Crosher - Bug 911254 - Odinmonkey: Support a wider range of heap lengths rather than just powers of two. r=luke
  2036. # [22:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/76488552d101 - Shih-Chiang Chien - Bug 901805 - Report network activity in nsUDPServerSocket. r=honzab
  2037. # [22:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96ffffd217f9 - Marcus Saad - Bug 903425 - Update TextTrackCue::Vertical to be a DirectionSetting enum. r=rillian
  2038. # [22:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d63424e06b3e - Garrett Robinson - Bug 916446 - TweetDeck web shows a blank page. r=sstamm
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  2077. # [22:21] <nmatsakis> ehsan: I saw thay, sorry, in meeting -- I have a fix for most of those tests, but the float32 tests I'm not sure about
  2078. # [22:21] <@ehsan> ok
  2079. # [22:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b56a5d69f342 - Douglas Crosher - Bug 916755 - visitClampVToUint8 creates unused oolTruncateDouble code and does not bind a return label. r=shu
  2080. # [22:21] <@ehsan> thanks!
  2081. # [22:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37dd897d1c32 - Martijn Wargers - Bug 916086 - Remove some more enablePrivilege calls. r=jmaher
  2082. # [22:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/33ec0e812f3b - Deian Stefan - Bug 916909 - Remove stray NS_{HOLD,DROP}_JS_OBJECTS. r=mccr8
  2083. # [22:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0cc00e701d7 - Douglas Crosher - Bug 916539 - ARM: Integer multiplication by a constant negative power of two is incorrectly optimized to a shift operation. r=mjrosenb
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  2119. # [22:37] <shu> BenWa: ping
  2120. # [22:37] <shu> BenWa: what register does the profiler tie up on x86?
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  2122. # [22:38] <BenWa> shu: Directly? none
  2123. # [22:39] <shu> BenWa: what's the constraint that it adds on the regalloc on x86 then? jandem suggests that we have less registers available to use when the profiler is turned on in the JIT
  2124. # [22:39] <BenWa> shu: We do tell the toolchain to enable frame pointers when enable-profiling is set but that's independant from the profiler
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  2126. # [22:40] <shu> BenWa: is this the same as SPS? (sorry, not familiar with the profiler)
  2127. # [22:40] <BenWa> shu: I don't know how the JS engine implements profiling
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  2131. # [22:40] <BenWa> shu: The platform has a profiling module which is called SPS and the JS engine will report to the profile when it enter/exists a function
  2132. # [22:40] <shu> BenWa: gotcha, thanks
  2133. # [22:41] <BenWa> The profiler backend itself doesn't reverse any register (but it will use framepointers information if the toolchain is emitting it)
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  2232. # [23:25] <NeilAway> bah, why did nobody tell windbg about false yet?
  2233. # [23:25] <@ehsan> ted: ping
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  2237. # [23:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/063a0d518fa2 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 916712: Convert Float32 TableSwitch inputs to doubles; r=jandem
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  2243. # [23:29] <glandium> gcp: pong
  2244. # [23:30] <gcp> glandium: I was going to ask you to take a peek at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=898767
  2245. # [23:30] <gcp> glandium: but the SIGILL stuff there might be a red herring
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  2251. # [23:32] <NeilAway> ehsan, bz: hmm, bug 891904 got forgotten, and it turns out that it's biting Thunderbird on release :-(
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  2256. # [23:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/623728a4a34b - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 880067 - Part 5: rtcp-fb unit tests r=ekr
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  2263. # [23:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c9f1b7a9899 - Terrence Cole - Bug 908750 - Fix a rooting hazard in nsScriptSecurityManger::LookupPolicy; r=bholley
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  2269. # [23:40] <gcp> glandium: yeah, it's definitely loaded later on
  2270. # [23:40] <gcp> glandium: though I'm not sure if the crash reporter initializes on startup
  2271. # [23:40] <gcp> glandium: any idea wrt the SIGILL?
  2272. # [23:40] <dholbert> mounir, ping
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  2277. # [23:42] <@ehsan> :(
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  2279. # [23:42] <@ehsan> NeilAway: let me ask Aryeh on the bug
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  2283. # [23:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e626543f0a79 - Steve Fink - Bug 916986 - Implement a JSAutoAssertNoGC for the analysis to pay attention to, r=terrence
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  2285. # [23:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55afb38c243a - Benoit Jacob - Bug 916714 - Fix a faulty assertion in TextureHost - r=jrmuizel
  2286. # [23:45] <glandium> gcp: no :(
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  2289. # [23:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8db44525abf6 - Bobby Holley - Bug 874502 part 6. Remove IsCallerChrome path for tearing down windows synchronously. r=bzbarsky
  2290. # [23:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1039de795dc3 - Bobby Holley - Bug 874502 part 4. Fix private browsing tests to not assume synchronous window closing. r=jdm
  2291. # [23:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/84dd3a16ad61 - Bobby Holley - Bug 874502 part 5. Fix JP test-windows to handle on{activate,deactivate} after close(). r=mossop
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  2293. # [23:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a84cd7f0904e - Bobby Holley - Bug 874502 part 3. Fix a11y tests to not assume synchronous window closing. r=tbsaunde
  2294. # [23:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5dcb9f4863f6 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 874502 part 1. Fix browser-chrome tests to not assume synchronous closing of windows. r=dolske
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  2300. # [23:48] <Mossop> mcote: ping
  2301. # [23:48] <mcote> Mossop: pong
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  2303. # [23:49] <Mossop> mcote: Does pulse send out notifications for checkins to mercurial?
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  2307. # [23:50] <mcote> Mossop: I don't think it does right now. I see an exchange for it (org.mozilla.exchange.code), and I know there is code for a producer, but I don't think it's turned on
  2308. # [23:51] <mcote> not sure why
  2309. # [23:51] <Mossop> Shame. Thanks anyway
  2310. # [23:52] <mcote> probably not a bad idea to get it reenabled eventually.
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  2312. # [23:52] <mcote> I'll try to find out why it isn't running.
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  2316. # [23:52] * @dolske blinks. Pulse is still a thing?!
  2317. # [23:53] <mcote> sure is
  2318. # [23:53] <mcote> powers a few things.
  2319. # [23:53] <mcote> I believe it only produces messages for builds & tests right now, though.
  2320. # [23:53] <mcote> it is primarily used for logparsing for OrangeFactor
  2321. # [23:53] <mcote> but also for some QA stuff, can't remember what exactly... whimboo knows.
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  2327. # [23:55] <mcote> in fact we even recently updated the client library to use an actually supported rabbitmq package
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  2329. # [23:55] <sfink> the rooting analysis builds will be using pulse RSN
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  2331. # [23:55] <sfink> (I hope)
  2332. # [23:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67cf1e541846 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 917032 part 3: Move flex item physicalPosn computation up a bit higher. r=mats
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  2334. # [23:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3a3f570a81e - Daniel Holbert - Bug 917032 part 1: Do flex layout in content-box space, rather than in frame-rect (border-box) space, and adjust for border/padding at the end of reflow. r=mats
  2335. # [23:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e76e17797e8 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 917032 part 2: Make PhysicalPositionFromLogicalPosition() take the content-box size, so it can do polarity-flipping if necessary. r=mats
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  2339. # [23:59] <jcranmer|away> ooh
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  2341. # [23:59] <jcranmer|away> I should have the eliminate-our-crappy-NS_LL stuff landed tonight
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