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# [00:03] <reyre> rillian: what's the stack?
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# [00:03] <rillian> reyre: see bug 918041
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# [00:04] <Gijs> KWierso|sheriffduty: do you know if we have a bug on the repetitive OS X try backlog? :)
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# [00:06] <NeilAway> jesup: heh @ chair spacer
# [00:06] <jesup> NeilAway: they got rid of scrollbars? feh. So long as I can re-enable
# [00:07] <NeilAway> jesup: no, just the arrows
# [00:07] <jesup> I suppose I should upgrade now....
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# [00:08] <Waldo> jesup: the latest Fedora didn't get rid of scrollbars, if it's what I'm running, which I'm pretty sure it is
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# [00:09] <reyre> rillian: thanks! i'll take a look
# [00:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86125c744b83 - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 917298: Mochitests for testing gum constraints. r=jesup, jsmith
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# [00:14] <reyre> rillian: i don't see where this is spawned from the code i added
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# [00:15] <reyre> rillian: feels like this is going to be tricky..
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# [00:17] <WeirdAl> NeilAway: hmm, notificationbox doesn't have a nice API for re-showing a notification.
# [00:17] <WeirdAl> too bad
# [00:17] <KWierso|sheriffduty> Gijs: I'd ask in #releng :)
# [00:17] <KWierso|sheriffduty> though I think it's a known thing
# [00:17] <rillian> reyre: not an obvious problem with your patch, know
# [00:17] <rillian> *no
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# [00:19] <_AtilA_> So, we don't use Android Hardware composer cause Gecko has it's own composition mechanism, is this right?
# [00:20] <NeilAway> WeirdAl: it doesn't have one at all, does it?
# [00:20] <WeirdAl> nope.
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# [00:20] <WeirdAl> minor inconvenience, but I can work around it.
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# [00:30] <WeirdAl> NeilAway: uh, reading over notification.xml, the _showNotification method... if the second and third arguments are false, it's actually removing the notification.
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# [00:30] <WeirdAl> that's _not_ good
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# [00:31] <WeirdAl> err, second arg false, third arg true
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# [00:31] <clever> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/content/widgets/listbox.xml#1028
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# [00:32] <clever> what exactly is this piece of xbl supposed to be doing?, inserting another <listcell> or modifying one?
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# [00:33] <abr> Well, that's a bit odd. I run Thunderbird pretty much constantly, and open and shut it frequently. For some reason, though, when I went to check the version today, it's running 17. Now, as soon as I checked, it went and downloaded 24 -- but it looks like it was going to happily keep running an outdated version until I checked. Is that just me?
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# [00:34] <Fallen> abr: I think the release is still throttled
# [00:34] <Fallen> its only 2 days old
# [00:34] <Gijs> KWierso|sheriffduty: thanks!
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# [00:34] <abr> Well, yeah, but I would expect to be running 23, then -- not 17.
# [00:34] <rillian> abr: mine did the same thing, although I don't open it very frequently
# [00:35] <rillian> but there hasn't been a release in a while...maybe that's why?
# [00:35] <Fallen> 23 was only a beta release, 17 and 24 are the major releases
# [00:35] <abr> Aha!
# [00:35] <abr> Okay, I see -- I didn't realise that we were skipping that many versions.
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# [00:36] <rillian> abr: iirc thunderbird is esr-only-ish
# [00:36] <rillian> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/
# [00:36] <Fallen> yeah, something like that :)
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# [00:37] <rillian> still can't dismiss my stale calendar notifications
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# [00:38] <abr> rilian -- thanks. Clears a lot up.
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# [00:42] <Fallen> rillian: sorry about that. What calendar type? Google?
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# [00:44] <rillian> Fallen: I'm not sure actually
# [00:44] <rillian> it's either zimbra or local
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# [00:45] <rillian> what's weird is I can dismiss them on my linux box, but not on my mac
# [00:45] <rillian> something with the config is wrong maybe?
# [00:45] <Fallen> rillian: is the cache enabled (Offline Support) ?
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# [00:46] <rillian> where do I find that?
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# [00:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54e4a1ad2b22 - Mike Hommey - Bug 917622 - Use INSTALL_TARGETS for mochitests. r=gps
# [00:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fdaa11265464 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 910453 - Annotate read moz.build files with tier info. r=glandium
# [00:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8dd27d839acc - Mike Hommey - Bug 917086 - Disallow DIRS, PARALLEL_DIRS and TEST_DIRS under TOOL_DIRS and TEST_TOOL_DIRS, and adapt moz.build files accordingly. r=gps
# [00:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/59c2fe5c743a - Mike Hommey - Bug 915928 - Remove toolkit/Makefile.in. r=khuey
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# [00:49] <Fallen> rillian: right click on calendar in the calendar list, then properties
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# [00:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/040522aacba4 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 913847 - Include MainThreadUtils.h instead of nsThreadUtils.h - r=ehsan
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# [00:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/554bfe767519 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 913847 - stop needlessly including nsThreadUtils.h - r=ehsan
# [00:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4eb44a3149ed - Benoit Jacob - Bug 913847 - split NS_IsMainThread and NS_GetMainThread into a new MainThreadUtils.h header - r=ehsan
# [00:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d4c51537450 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 913852 - BindingUtils.h doesn't need to include <algorithm> - r=bz
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# [00:52] <KWierso|sheriffduty> nrc: ping
# [00:52] <rillian> Fallen: that doesn't do anything
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# [00:52] <nrc> KWierso|sheriffduty: pong
# [00:52] <KWierso|sheriffduty> nrc: did you break Cipc tests?
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# [00:52] <KWierso|sheriffduty> with 917576?
# [00:53] <KWierso|sheriffduty> it's been crashing since that landed
# [00:53] <nrc> KWierso|sheriffduty: I hope not, was OK on try
# [00:53] <Fallen> rillian: but was it on or off? If it was on, then turning it off and then on again might clear up the reminders
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# [00:53] <nrc> KWierso|sheriffduty: its highly lokely though
# [00:53] <nrc> *likely
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# [00:53] <nrc> looking...
# [00:54] <KWierso|sheriffduty> nrc: I filed bug 918119 about it, but now that I see it's happening pretty constantly, I think it should get backed out unless you have a fix
# [00:54] <rillian> Fallen: I dont see a cache/offline option
# [00:54] <rillian> Location: moz-storage-calendar://
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# [00:55] <Fallen> rillian: ok, then its a local calendar, not zimbra. Interesting, I have no idea why that kind of calendar would not allow reminders to be dismissed. Do you get error console messages?
# [00:55] <rillian> everyone once in a while I get, "An error occurred when writing to the calendar. MODIFICATION_FAILED."
# [00:56] <rillian> Fallen: I can try running it from the console
# [00:56] <rillian> I think I switched to a local calendar at some point because the zimba one was too painful
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# [00:57] <rillian> nothing on the console when I click 'dismiss'
# [00:57] <rillian> maybe I should file a real bug
# [00:57] <ekr> I just got: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3091445
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# [00:58] <ekr> I notice that: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/threads/TimerThread.cpp#l236
# [00:58] <ekr> " Further, note that this should never happen even with a
# [00:58] <ekr> // misbehaving user, "
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# [00:59] <nrc> KWierso|sheriffduty: so that patch makes Cipc actually run properly (it has not been for the last four weeks or so)
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# [01:00] <Fallen> rillian: yeah might be a little easier to gather details. When you do, I'd suggest enabling calendar.debug.log and calendar.debug.log.verbose in the config editor, that might give some more debug info why its failing
# [01:00] <@smaug> ted: ping
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# [01:00] <nrc> KWierso|sheriffduty: turning back on for Try with a few days old pull was fine bar the test that got disabled with that patch
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# [01:01] <nrc> KWierso|sheriffduty: I'd really rather not turn Cipc back off - we could disable the offending test until we find someone to fix it?
# [01:01] <@smaug> or anyone, how does one run the chrome tests in dom/plugins/test/mochitest/ ?
# [01:01] <KWierso|sheriffduty> nrc: can you do that, then? :)
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# [01:01] <@smaug> all I get is plenty of missing plugin warnings
# [01:01] <@smaug> and "plugin is null" errors in js
# [01:02] <nrc> KWierso|sheriffduty: sure, coming up...
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# [01:03] <gfritzsche> smaug: running them from mach should set the plugin path properly
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# [01:04] <rillian> Fallen similar to bug 769118
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# [01:04] <@smaug> hmm, I don't use mach
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# [01:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61e07e81b35f - Nicholas Cameron - bug 918119. Skip crashtests/327524-1.html. r=bustage
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# [01:07] <gfritzsche> smaug: right, running via make targets might miss that path... Not sure how to get it set up there, mach would be easier
# [01:07] <Fallen> rillian: thats very specific to Google Calendar, they had a problem with their caldav endpoint which lead to quite a few comments on that
# [01:07] <@smaug> in fact, mdn doesn't say one should use mach
# [01:07] <@smaug> it says make -C $(OBJDIR) mochitest-chrome
# [01:07] <gps> MDN should be updated :)
# [01:07] <gps> which page is that?
# [01:08] <@smaug> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Chrome_tests
# [01:09] <@smaug> oh, and make -C $(OBJDIR) mochitest-chrome seems to have --autorun as default :/
# [01:09] <KWierso|sheriffduty> nrc: would bug 914353 have messed it up?
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# [01:10] <nrc> KWierso|sheriffduty: that seems like a very good possibility, but it is way out of my domain
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# [01:12] <@smaug> but ok, make -C approach seems to work
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# [01:12] <KWierso|sheriffduty> nrc: needinfoing evilpie in the bug
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# [01:13] <nrc> KWierso|sheriffduty: thanks!
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# [01:19] <NeilAway> WeirdAl: a) that's an internal method b) yes, that's sort of the point
# [01:20] <NeilAway> clever: XBL content doesn't inherit, so it replaces the "default" listitem content
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# [01:21] <philor> jesup: not impossible that you've got b2g bustage
# [01:21] <philor> of course, it's b2g
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# [01:23] <@ted> smaug: pong
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# [01:24] <@smaug> ted: nm, figured out
# [01:24] <@ted> k
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# [01:26] <jesup> philor: jib's patch?
# [01:26] <philor> jesup: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&showall=1&onlyunstarred=1&rev=75832c5047a4
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# [01:26] <jesup> looking
# [01:27] <clever> NeilAway: i found part of the problem, it doesnt work if i have any elements inside the <listitem>
# [01:27] <clever> NeilAway: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3091459
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# [01:28] <philor> jesup: they're both insanely slow and insanely failure-prone, so in an hour or two or four we'll actually know, just seemed... more-related than most of its build bustages
# [01:28] <clever> NeilAway: so the xbl giving a default content does explain why things arent working right
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# [01:29] <jesup> philor: Not *that* patch, for sure. But maybe one of the abr/ekr/ehugg patches - looking
# [01:31] <clever> NeilAway: and i cant just add a <listcell type=checkbox/> manualy, the code applies checked to the <listitem> and relies on xbl inherit, which is broken if i dont use xbl
# [01:32] <jesup> philor: I bet someone did something with a macro named ABORT (probably outside webrtc)
# [01:32] <philor> guess I should give them more credit, emulator-jb is a few minutes faster than linux-pgo
# [01:32] * jesup always hated that this uses that generic macro name...
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# [01:34] <jesup> philor: the only other finished build for JB recently is red too (in a different place)
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# [01:35] <evilpie> KWierso|sheriffduty: wait is this test supposed to crash?
# [01:35] <jesup> but they're green before that
# [01:35] <KWierso|sheriffduty> evilpie: I don't think so
# [01:36] <evilpie> that stack trace is not helpful at all
# [01:36] <philor> jesup: yeah, failing in moderately random spots is what they do, I wouldn't have been at all surprised except for the way it seemed relatedish
# [01:36] <KWierso|sheriffduty> evilpie: the test file specifically says "This should not crash Mozilla"
# [01:36] <evilpie> yeah
# [01:36] <evilpie> so what happens if previously window.crypto would already throw
# [01:37] <jesup> yeah, but the file touched there is light-years away from where the compile died (and a cpp file only)
# [01:37] <evilpie> now just the call throws
# [01:37] <mina> any tips for debugging the code in browser.js?
# [01:37] <mina> right now I find I'm having to do a full build, install on the device, run it on the device, and read the dump() statements I've put in the code
# [01:37] <mina> and it doesn't even show me the errors, it just seems to stop running at a line with an error
# [01:37] <mina> or debugging js code in mozilla-central in general
# [01:37] <jesup> philor: Ping me again if it seems real. nothing has changed around that in a while, so I doubt it
# [01:38] <nrc> evilpie: I think previously it asserted, now it crashes (when OOP)
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# [01:43] <NeilAway> clever: um, why are you even adding an explicit label?
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# [01:44] <clever> NeilAway: i'm trying to get 2 columns into the listbox
# [01:44] <NeilAway> clever: also, pastebin.mozilla.org isn't secure, please don't use https:
# [01:44] <clever> NeilAway: but adding anything into the <listitem> clears out that default content
# [01:44] <clever> it just defaulted to https on me, not sure why
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# [01:45] <NeilAway> clever: if you want more than one listcell in a listitem then you have to roll your own and not use default content
# [01:45] <clever> NeilAway: yeah, thats what i'm trying to do now
# [01:46] <clever> done, now it checks properly
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# [01:46] <clever> NeilAway: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3091700 solves it
# [01:46] <clever> wtf, i took the s out of the url before posting it, lol
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# [02:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d158763f7b9 - Karl Tomlinson - b=917260 null check mDestination in AudioContext::Shutdown() r=ehsan
# [02:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23a83ccc8c93 - Paul Adenot - Bug 917260 - Nullcheck Destination() in AudioContext::DestinationStream. r=ehsan
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# [02:14] <glandium> bjacob: you're leaking
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# [02:15] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: CLOSED TREE
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# [02:16] <bjacob> glandium: sorry, looking
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# [02:16] <bjacob> philor: can you back out my push?
# [02:17] <KWierso|sheriffduty> I can if philor can't
# [02:17] <bjacob> KWierso|sheriffduty: thanks
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# [02:17] <bjacob> KWierso|sheriffduty: only need to back out bug 913847
# [02:17] <bjacob> (3 changesets)
# [02:17] <KWierso|sheriffduty> ok
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# [02:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/beb3f7611ea4 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 554bfe767519 (bug 913847) for leaking on a CLOSED TREE
# [02:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b8f9bfdc96c - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 040522aacba4 (bug 913847)
# [02:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23bb1400c493 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 4eb44a3149ed (bug 913847)
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# [02:26] <seth> gps: see e.g. https://github.com/alloy/terminal-notifier
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# [02:36] <dvander_> Enn: coudl you explain bug 902715 comment #5? I don't understand the "This prevents anything from happening when the window is in the background." part
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# [02:51] <KWierso|sheriffduty> smaug: shouldn't be any more
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# [02:52] <KWierso|sheriffduty> oh
# [02:52] <@smaug> but perhaps some fix has landed?
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# [03:00] <glandium> gavin: without "work offline", how are web developers supposed to test offline mode ? by pulling their network plug?
# [03:01] <@gavin> if web developers actually care to do that, it can be an option in the developer tools
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# [03:02] <glandium> gavin: isn't that what the patch you r-ed did ?
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# [03:04] <@gavin> I didn't look at the patch i r-ed, but it said that it moved it from the file menu to the web developer menu
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# [03:05] <mbrubeck> Hrm, every time I run a UX build in my main profile and then "downgrade" to a different build, I end up with a messed up toolbar.
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# [03:05] <@gavin> messed up how?
# [03:05] <glandium> mbrubeck: how unsurprised i am
# [03:05] <mbrubeck> Running Aurora 25 after UX, I was missing my back/forward and stop/reload buttons.
# [03:06] <mbrubeck> Can't reproduce it now after re-customizing
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# [03:07] <mbrubeck> and is it just me, or did we actually move reload/stop out of the urlbar recently, and then back inside for Australis?
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# [03:08] <@gavin> we didn't
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# [03:09] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mbrubeck: iirc, for a while, UX branch was playing around with making back/forward/stop/rewind a single block?
# [03:09] <mbrubeck> yeah, I assume the trouble with round-tripping customizations is related to that
# [03:09] <seth> jaws: around?
# [03:10] <mbrubeck> (it is indeed a single unit now in UX)
# [03:10] <mbrubeck> argh, lost my back button again
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# [03:13] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: any reason inbound needs to stay closed at this point?
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# [03:20] <seth> MattN: curious if you have a comment about bug 764299 comment 39?
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# [03:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e77c13612cdb - Cameron McCormack - Bug 915439 - Use longer timeouts for test_value_computation.html and test_value_storage.html. r=bzbarsky
# [03:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e62723cac0f - Cameron McCormack - Bug 918156 - Silence uninitialized variable warning in an unreachable branch of nsStyleUtil::ComputeFunctionalAlternates. r=jdaggett
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# [03:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71f2968c7359 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 877378: Add alias analysis and GVN for heap loads / stores in asm.js; r=jandem
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# [04:01] <heycam> gps, I just got the "your python is tool old now" error message, so I tried to use `mach bootstrap` to give me a newer one. I got this error though: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3092541
# [04:01] <heycam> gps, worth a bug filing?
# [04:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aaa20750f69d - John Daggett - Bug 838105 - add debug logging code for userfont cache. r=birtles
# [04:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d4f2df53563 - Jonathan Kew - Bug 838105 - don't rely on key lookup to remove items from the user font cache, as the principal could have changed. r=jdaggett
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# [04:04] <heycam> gps, (turns out I did have a newer python already from homebrew, but it wasn't high up enough in my PATH to be found)
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# [04:06] <@njn> nrc: is Moz2D built on Linux? I want to try DMDifying your 3rd patch in bug 915940
# [04:07] <nrc> njn: yes, it is built on all platforms
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# [04:10] <@njn> nrc: good
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# [04:17] <mattwoodrow> mconley: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=2e68e3cb63f6
# [04:17] <mattwoodrow> are the profiling results meant to be in the log file?
# [04:19] <mattwoodrow> oh it is, doesn't look very long though
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# [04:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8367f4c4fb71 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 918109: Move some null-initialized static variables in nsLayoutUtils.cpp to function-scope. r=mats
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# [04:35] <@njn> nrc: I just got this compile error: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3092768
# [04:36] <nrc> njn: odd, compiles fine on Windows. Maybe it should be |mozilla::Atomic<int32_t> GfxMemoryImageReporter::sAmount(0)| ?
# [04:37] <@njn> nrc: I think you don't need any initialization.. but it should be |static|
# [04:37] <@njn> nrc: if it's static, it'll auto-zero
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# [04:39] <cpearce> If I have code "EXPORTS.dir1.dir2 += ['file.h']" in a moz.build, it's supposed to export that file to objdir/dist/include/dir1/dir2 right? what do I have to do to trigger the export?
# [04:39] <@njn> nrc: oh, it's already static
# [04:39] <nrc> njn: it is static. I'll get rid of the initialisation, didn't realise I didn't nerd it
# [04:40] <nrc> s/nerd/need
# [04:40] <@njn> nrc: I only see one (out of many) Atomic<int32_t>s in the tree being initialized
# [04:40] <cpearce> oh I have to rebuild the world. great.
# [04:40] <nrc> cpearce: headers are no l onger exported in incremental builds, it is extremely annoying
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# [04:41] <cpearce> nrc: even more so on windows since builds are twice as slow there.
# [04:41] <cpearce> gps: ^^ Sad Face.
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# [04:42] <nrc> cpearce: yeah, I'm on Windows too at the moment. And I keep forgetting and wasting time trying to track down non-existent bugs :-s
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# [04:45] <mconley> mattwoodrow: did you need Win 7 or Win 8?
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# [04:46] <mattwoodrow> mconley: I need xp :)
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# [04:46] <mconley> mattwoodrow: oh - that doesn't look like it's even started yet. It's still queued.
# [04:46] <mattwoodrow> I was just asking you if it was working, since I assume it's getting late for you
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# [04:47] <mconley> mattwoodrow: yeah, looks like it - search the log for Begin SPS Profile
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# [04:47] <mconley> mattwoodrow: that datauri after it is the base64 encoded profile, all zipped up
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# [04:48] <mconley> mattwoodrow: looks like it'll work. I can extract the Win 7 or Win 8 if you'd like to confirm.
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# [04:48] <mattwoodrow> mconley: Nah, it's all good, I'll play around with it when (if) winxp completes
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# [04:49] <mconley> mattwoodrow: k - if you need any help, send mail.
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# [04:51] <mattwoodrow> mconley: will do, thanks!
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# [04:52] <mconley> np
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# [04:57] <cpearce> we need a "./mach exports" command, to do exports of #include files.
# [04:58] <nrc> cpearce: why? what is wrong with the build system doing it automatically?
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# [05:01] <cpearce> nrc: that would be fine if the build system was fast. as is, every time I change an include it takes 2 minutes for the build to reach the directory where the change is to tell me whether I stuffed up or not.
# [05:02] <nrc> cpearce: on an incremental build?
# [05:02] <cpearce> nrc: on a full build. exports don't run on an incremental build
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# [05:02] <cpearce> this is on my new machine, on my old machine it would take 5 minutes to reach the failure point.
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# [05:25] <@njn> bz: ping
# [05:31] <@bz> njn: ack
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# [05:32] <@njn> bz: if I have a |window| in JS code, can I pass it via IDL as an nsIGlobalObject
# [05:32] <@njn> ?
# [05:33] <@njn> bz: stepping back, I want to take a |window| in JS code, and then find its zone in C++ code
# [05:33] <@njn> bz: my current plan:
# [05:33] <@njn> 1. pass window from JS to C++ as nsIGlobalObject
# [05:33] <@njn> 2. JS::GetObjectZone(topWindow->GetGlobalJSObject());
# [05:33] <@bz> You can't do that, but you can pass as nsIDOMWindow
# [05:34] <@bz> and then in the C++ QI to nsIGlobalObject
# [05:34] <@njn> ok, thanks!
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# [05:39] <@bz> No problem.
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# [05:45] * @njn never knows where to put new #include statements in Gecko
# [05:46] <@njn> thankfully someone fixed that problem for SpiderMonkey
# [05:46] <@dbaron> I think the only hard rule I enforce is that in foo.c, foo.h should be included first
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# [05:47] <@njn> dbaron: that's a good one
# [05:47] <@dbaron> just because then you have somebody checking that foo.h compiles
# [05:47] <@njn> dbaron: but it sure ain't sufficient :)
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# [05:47] <@dbaron> I think perhaps the only other rule is "follow local style"
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# [05:49] <@njn> dbaron: but so many files don't have a comprehensible style
# [05:49] <@njn> dbaron: half of them don't even group the mozilla/*.h ones
# [05:49] <@dbaron> njn, in some cases that's the result of "add new things at the end"
# [05:49] <@dbaron> njn, which is usually fine
# [05:50] <heycam> the most headscratching is when there are sections of #includes separated by blank lines
# [05:50] <heycam> with no obvious reason for the grouping
# [05:50] <@dbaron> njn, though I tend to put base classes first and then other things grouped in logical ways separated by blank lines :-)
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# [05:51] <@dbaron> (e.g., group of frame classes, group of things for algorithms/data structures, group of things from content/dom)
# [05:51] <@njn> https://wiki.mozilla.org/JavaScript:SpiderMonkey:Coding_Style#.23include_ordering
# [05:51] <@njn> read it and weep, boys
# [05:51] <@njn> it's even (mostly) auto-enforced
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# [05:54] <@njn> dbaron: I don't even know what that statement means
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# [05:54] <@dbaron> well, it means I basically don't care what they look like
# [05:55] <@dbaron> if something's missing, I add it
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# [05:58] <@njn> dbaron: that's admirably detached of you
# [05:59] <@dbaron> Well, the license headers used to be about 40 lines
# [05:59] <@dbaron> so I just got used to ignoring "the stuff at the top"
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# [05:59] <@bz_sleep> njn: so...
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# [06:00] <@bz_sleep> njn: I had to throw in a jsapi include into UnionTypes.h today
# [06:00] <@bz_sleep> njn: Or at least I expect it will end up there once someone has a dictionary with 'object' in it inside a union....
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# [06:01] <@bz_sleep> njn: I don't quite know how to avoid that, given I want a templated stack rooter class. :(
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# [06:01] <@njn> bz_sleep: :(
# [06:03] <@njn> bz_sleep: if nothing else, you know it's bad
# [06:04] <@bz_sleep> njn: well, I know it's annoying.
# [06:04] <@bz_sleep> njn: For the most part, includers of uniontypes already included jsfriendapi
# [06:04] <@bz_sleep> njn: so it's not changing anything yet
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# [06:04] <@bz_sleep> njn: until we stop including jsapi in jsfriendapi
# [06:04] <@njn> bz_sleep: jsfriendapi.h no longer includes jsapi.h :/
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# [06:05] <@bz_sleep> ah, mmm
# [06:05] <@njn> bz_sleep: no exported JS header includes jsapi.h
# [06:05] <@bz_sleep> Of course they also generally include jsapi directly
# [06:05] <@bz_sleep> "they" being the binding files
# [06:05] <@bz_sleep> Unfortunately, we're going to end up with binding _headers_ including UnionTypes in some cases
# [06:06] <@bz_sleep> I guess the long-term fix is to not have UnionTypes.h
# [06:06] <@bz_sleep> And maybe to radically increase the number of headers we create for bindings. Or something.
# [06:06] <@njn> bz_sleep: or not have jsapi.h :)
# [06:06] <@bz_sleep> Or that, yes. ;)
# [06:06] <@bz_sleep> All I really need is the CustomAutoRooter bits
# [06:07] <@bz_sleep> In fact, thta's totally all I need: the definition of CustomAutoRooter
# [06:07] <@bz_sleep> So I can inherit from it
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# [06:08] <philor> glandium: so, um, this, I, uh
# [06:08] <glandium> philor: ?
# [06:09] <@njn> bz_sleep: move it into its own js/public/*.h header?
# [06:09] <philor> glandium: earlier today, I saw a couple of b2g mochitest-2 runs where it put the "INFO | runtestsb2g.py | Running tests: end." in the middle of the "Failed: 0" line, which makes the run failed; somehow, you made that permaorange on mochitest-7
# [06:10] <@njn> m-i is quiet today
# [06:10] <@njn> at least, right now
# [06:11] * philor looks at the 66 unstarred
# [06:11] <philor> not quiet enough
# [06:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0073cef7bb9 - Chris Pearce - Bug 916836 - Handle jumps off the end of the buffer in MP3FrameParser. r=padenot
# [06:11] <glandium> philor: let me see if it's what i think it is, and if it is... well i don't know, we'll see
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# [06:14] <glandium> philor: yeah, i made the list of tests longer because, guess what, they were there but not actually being run ; so presumably, this made the problem more likely to happen
# [06:14] <philor> you had me at "not being run"
# [06:14] <philor> unrun test is best test
# [06:15] <glandium> philor: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/diff/54e4a1ad2b22/dom/tests/mochitest/dom-level2-html/Makefile.in#l1.121
# [06:15] <glandium> philor: pay attention to the foreach
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# [06:17] <philor> declare b2g mochitests unacceptable? file two bugs, and then I can hide them
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# [06:18] <glandium> philor: obviously, there's something fishy on the releng side
# [06:18] <philor> glandium: releng, or harness?
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# [06:18] <glandium> either
# [06:19] <philor> alas, one must pick a single silo, and join the residents of the other silo in jeering the fools into whose silo you fling it
# [06:19] <philor> and releng isn't going to accept it, if I fling it their way
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# [06:21] <@njn> how are IDL outparams handled in JS?
# [06:21] <Callek> philor: what won't we accept?
# [06:21] <@njn> e.g. if I have |void foo(out int64_t a, out int64_t b) how do I call and then access a and b in JS code?
# [06:21] * Callek doesn't doubt your experience, just asking
# [06:22] <+Unfocused> njn: let a = {},b={}; foo(a,b); doSomething(a.value, b.value);
# [06:22] <glandium> njn: about your mozconfig question from earlier, the ones under build/ are indirectly included. The real ones are in $appdir/config/mozconfigs
# [06:22] <philor> Callek: that it's your fault that b2g mochitests intersperse lines in the log
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# [06:23] <Callek> philor: ooo b2g, wonderful! Thats explicitly something I've ignored
# [06:23] * Callek is glad he has to deal with tegras/pandas when the alternative is b2g
# [06:23] <Callek> :-)
# [06:23] <philor> m-2 only fails maybe one in five, that's well within their standards
# [06:23] <@njn> glandium: thanks
# [06:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f4ddfbf313fc - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 905405. Wrap mLastNativeEventScheduled in a mutex to avoid racing on it. r=bsmedberg
# [06:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb4ac527994e - Bobby Holley - Bug 905909 - Avoid infinite recursion in nsTreeBodyFrame. v1
# [06:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5294bf1a2140 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 918185. When Range.getBoundingClientRect/getClientRects needs a textframe for a node, create one if the textframe was optimized away. r=bz
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# [06:27] <@njn> Unfocused: well, I wouldn't have guess that. Thanks!
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# [06:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b248c5a0dc2 - Anthony Jones - Bug 740200 - Removed some white space
# [06:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3466e81d3a41 - Anthony Jones - Bug 740200 - Enable content pref; r=mattwoodrow
# [06:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d871c0d61510 - Anthony Jones - Bug 740200 - BorrowedContext support for cairo; r=mattwoodrow
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# [06:44] <philor> fabrice: xpcshell bustage on b-i
# [06:44] <@njn> dbaron: calling JS-engine functions from XPCOM is a no-no, I'm guessing?
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# [06:47] <+Unfocused> njn: i'm pretty sure we do that somewhere in the tree already
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# [06:49] <@njn> Unfocused: xpcom/base/CycleCollectedJSRuntime.cpp is rife with it
# [06:49] <@njn> unsurprisingly
# [06:49] <@njn> cool
# [06:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf8d5d78b27e - Robert O'Callahan - Fix build bustage for bug 905405 on a CLOSED TREE
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# [07:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0ebacd4d0b4a - Robert O'Callahan - Backing out f4ddfbf313fc (bug 905405) on a CLOSED TREE
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# [07:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae02054863f7 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 907926 - Enable Azure content for windows. r=nrc
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# [07:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec63e6d6d874 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 907926 - Avoid calling CurrentSurface when we can. r=Bas
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# [08:01] <+Unfocused> glob_arrr: er, ping? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=916735 "ih_short_value: filter not found "
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# [08:01] <philor> Unfocused: refresh
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# [08:02] <glob_arrr> Unfocused, sorry, we be doing a push, not all webheads have restarted yet
# [08:02] <+Unfocused> ah :)
# [08:02] <glob_arrr> evidently some files are stored in memory, others are not :(
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# [08:02] <+Unfocused> also : Yarr!
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# [08:02] <philor> mattwoodrow|away: really away?
# [08:03] <@njn> glob_arrr: I'm still getting ih_short_value: filter not found even after shift-refreshing
# [08:03] <glob_arrr> njn, you have a 2 in 5 chance of hitting it
# [08:03] <@njn> glob_arrr: you're making that up
# [08:03] <glob_arrr> njn, no. really.
# [08:04] <glob_arrr> we have 5 webheads, 3 have restarted
# [08:04] <@njn> glob_arrr: ok, back
# [08:04] <@njn> thanks
# [08:04] <glob_arrr> one more to go
# [08:05] <glob_arrr> zero more to go
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# [08:29] <philor> well played me, hoist by my own forgotten tree closure
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# [08:31] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> :)
# [08:33] <philor> Tomcat|Sheriffduty: if you make the mistake of actually looking at b2g mochitests, bug 918199
# [08:33] <@njn> glob: the size of the font in bugmail just went up again?
# [08:33] <glob> njn, do you use gmail?
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# [08:33] <glob> if so, yes.
# [08:34] <@njn> glob: yeah
# [08:34] <@njn> glob: darn, I liked the smaller font
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# [08:34] <glob> njn, i suspect you may be the only one ;)
# [08:34] <@njn> glob: the bigger font wraps at the browser window width that I have
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# [08:34] <@njn> wraps lines, that is
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# [08:35] <@njn> oh, the agony
# [08:35] <glob> lol
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# [08:39] <glob> happy bmo push day! https://globau.wordpress.com/2013/09/19/happy-bmo-push-day-65/
# [08:39] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> glob: ++
# [08:41] <@njn> glob: Bugzilla's code is stored in bzr? huh
# [08:41] <glob> njn, yes, sorry :(
# [08:41] <glob> njn, we're planning on moving to git, working on a bzr/git bridge
# [08:41] <@njn> glob: no need to apologize; I promise I won't be looking at the bugzilla code any time soon
# [08:42] <@njn> :P
# [08:42] <glob> b..b..but perl!
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# [08:43] <@njn> a...a...and perl!
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# [08:43] <@njn> glob: I made a New Year's Resolution at the start of 2013 to never use Perl again, except for one-liners
# [08:43] <@njn> glob: not that I was a heavy user, but still
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# [08:43] <glob> njn, not sure i should be talking with you
# [08:44] <@njn> glob: and I live in Victoria!
# [08:44] <glob> shun the disbeliever!
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# [08:45] <sfink> haters gonna hate
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# [08:47] <@njn> sfink: 'specially when they're from W.A.
# [08:47] <glob> njn, is it better or worse that i'm not _from_ WA... i'm a kiwi
# [08:48] <@njn> glob: goodness
# [08:48] <@njn> glob: I certainly didn't expect that
# [08:48] <@njn> glob: I think it's time for me to stop working for the day
# [08:48] <@njn> :)
# [08:48] <glob> njn, lol
# [08:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/76b02f97bebc - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 917269 - Remove kFontAppleMyungjo; r=jdagget
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# [08:56] <hsivonen> Do we already have a bug about the trunk mislocating lines of text when painting editable areas in Zimbra?
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# [08:58] <sfink> I've been seeing something similar in bugzilla comment boxes
# [08:58] <glob> hsivonen, bug 916751
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# [09:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f1434323209c - Jon Coppeard - Bug 917296 - GC: Handlify public regexp APIs r=billm
# [09:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0874c0c422b1 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 917798 - Handlify JS exception APIs r=terrence r=bz
# [09:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/020f08616536 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 917295 - GC: Handlify public date APIs r=terrence r=bz
# [09:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70a765607344 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 917843 - Handlify JS identifier APIs r=billm
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# [10:53] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> hi edmorley|sheriffduty ! i have a question, when a bug change and get more details like a updated summary and crash signature, we have run the tbpl refresh script again, right? so that tbpl show that bug as suggestion or ?
# [10:54] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Tomcat|Sheriffduty: TBPL will only cache for 3 hrs, so not always necessary
# [10:54] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> ah ok
# [10:54] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> hm in that specific case tbpl showed no suggestion
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# [10:55] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Tomcat|Sheriffduty: also, if the summary was matching before (and it's just that you want to add extra info), then not need either
# [10:55] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> but running the script did
# [10:55] <edmorley|sheriffduty> s/need/needed
# [10:55] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Tomcat|Sheriffduty: which case?
# [10:55] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> edmorley|sheriffduty: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Aurora&rev=be02e65a456b
# [10:55] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> the r3 on b2g ics
# [10:55] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> the abot
# [10:55] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> abort
# [10:56] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Tomcat|Sheriffduty: that's because it didn't have keyword intermittent-failure
# [10:56] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> hm
# [10:56] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> the bug has
# [10:56] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Tomcat|Sheriffduty: that bug doesn't, I've just had to add it
# [10:56] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> well bug 917243 has
# [10:57] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> thats the one i filed yesterday
# [10:57] <edmorley|sheriffduty> the summary is different
# [10:58] <edmorley|sheriffduty> [Parent 659] vs [Parent 650]
# [10:58] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> ah ok
# [10:58] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Tomcat|Sheriffduty: unfortunately it seems that b2g prefixes the aborts, which breaks full line searching
# [10:59] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> yeah
# [10:59] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> would be cool if tbpl could get at least the abort itself like "###!!! ABORT: actor has been |delete|d: file PGrallocBufferParent.cpp, line 378" in the summary or so
# [10:59] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Tomcat|Sheriffduty: this is the case that TBPL uses for these aborts https://hg.mozilla.org/webtools/tbpl/file/b21b0fb97737/php/inc/AnnotatedSummaryGenerator.php#l106
# [11:00] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Tomcat|Sheriffduty: yeah it just yet another thing to hardcode - we should be fixing these upstream ideally
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# [11:00] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> oh cool :)
# [11:02] <Tomcat|Sheriffduty> also no biggie, just something i run into daily routine :)
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# [12:33] <mwargers> !seen bnewman
# [12:33] <firebot> I've never seen a 'bnewman', sorry.
# [12:33] <mwargers> !seen benjamn
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# [12:37] <NeilAway> Gijs: shame you couldn't use the browser debugger to work out why the tests in bug 917706 were failing :-P
# [12:38] <Gijs> NeilAway: I mean, could have done, I guess? They were just cmdline tests, in hindsight
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# [12:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3acc549961a - Paul Adenot - Bug 881959 - Mute WebAudio nodes that are part of a cycle that contains no DelayNode, and make cycles work. r=ehsan
# [12:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e2237c4172c - Paul Adenot - Bug 881959 - Handle self-connection. r=ehsan
# [12:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58508ae5e858 - Paul Adenot - Bug 917246 - Make the tree compile with --enable-pulse. r=jesup
# [12:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44b5ab1bb6d3 - Paul Adenot - Bug 881959 - Tests for cycles in WebAudio graphs. r=ehsan
# [12:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef481208ffc2 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 881959 - Tell the MediaStreamGraph when changes to the graph occur. r=roc
# [12:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd52dbee297f - Paul Adenot - Bug 881959 - Clamp the DelayNode.delayTime to 128/AudioContext.sampleRate when in a cycle. r=ehsan
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# [13:37] <darktrojan> edmorley, could we get a link to the tree rules on the tbpl tree info popup?
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# [13:38] <edmorley> darktrojan: yeah, fancy filing a bug? for now it's in the tree status MOTD that appears across the top of all of the sheriffed trees
# [13:39] <darktrojan> okay
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# [13:39] <darktrojan> it's not on c-c, but then again, where are the tree rules for c-c
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# [14:07] <reuben> sigh, this is silly
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# [14:08] <reuben> bandcamp enabled their HTML5 player by default, and it's great, but it uses a single <audio> elem and switches sources on it
# [14:09] <reuben> so if you leave an album playing, OS X will go to sleep between songs
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# [14:10] <reuben> maybe we should get a wake lock earlier when <audio>s are being manipulated by JS
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# [14:11] <hsivonen> I don't have Firefox OS device and I need to test the patch on Firefox OS under a non-Latin locale (e.g. Russian, Chinese or Japanese). What should I build in order to end up testing the same localization activation code as on real devices?
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# [14:12] <hsivonen> Also, how do I get tryserver to include localizations in an Android build?
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# [14:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de30dc2eacaa - Ed Morley - Bug 917817 - Make several more python test harness failure modes TBPL parsable; r=jmaher
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# [14:28] <RealRaven> ping any postbox users
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# [14:39] <RyanVM> Yoric: ping
# [14:39] <Yoric> RyanVM: What have I done?
# [14:39] <Yoric> It's not my fault, it's the other guy's.
# [14:39] <RyanVM> hah
# [14:39] <RyanVM> your patch for bug 911115 doesn't apply
# [14:40] <RyanVM> you pushed to Try today
# [14:40] <RyanVM> does that mean you have a rebased one you can attach?
# [14:40] <Yoric> Ah, I may have forgotten to upload the rebased version.
# [14:40] <Yoric> Let me check.
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# [14:40] <RyanVM> Yoric: damn that other guy! :P
# [14:41] <Yoric> Yeah, he's really annoying.
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# [14:42] <Optimize1> glob|away: <3 <3 <#
# [14:42] <Optimize1> err . <3
# [14:42] <Yoric> Here we go.
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# [14:45] <@smaug> did bugzilla get some great new feature?
# [14:45] <RyanVM> Yoric: one more coming? :)
# [14:45] <RyanVM> Yoric: or is the other obsolete?
# [14:45] <RyanVM> not clear by looking at it
# [14:46] <Yoric> Ok, if you insist :)
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# [14:46] <RyanVM> Yoric: yes, I moonlight as a housekeeper :)
# [14:46] <gabor> smaug: you can set up a dragon as your avatar for example ;)
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# [14:47] <reuben> hsivonen: you want to ping Pike (possibly in #l10n)
# [14:47] <RyanVM> Yoric: OK, I'm confused
# [14:47] <Yoric> Why?
# [14:47] <RyanVM> Yoric: these still don't apply cleanly to fx-team
# [14:47] <Yoric> They don't?
# [14:47] * Yoric has just rebased.
# [14:47] <RyanVM> nope
# [14:47] <RyanVM> i've tried qpushing them in both orders
# [14:48] <Yoric> ...
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# [14:48] <RyanVM> Yoric: is bug 894595 breaking you?
# [14:48] <Yoric> (they should be independent)
# [14:48] <RyanVM> ttaubert just landed that this morning
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# [14:49] <Yoric> Ah, maybe it's still on inbound but not on m-c yet.
# [14:49] * Yoric was pulling from m-c.
# [14:49] <Yoric> Yeah, that bug could possibly break them.
# [14:49] <Yoric> I'll rebase once it has arrived on m-c.
# [14:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f4606fcaadf5 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 916094 - Assertions removed from IDBFactory::Create() when it's used in JS from chrome in IPC. r=bent
# [14:50] <RyanVM> Yoric: ok
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# [14:51] <Yoric> RyanVM: Thanks.
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# [14:53] <bz> Anyone know which line that might _really_ be? :(
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# [14:54] <Optimize1> smaug: the gmail mails now have proper readable font
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# [15:07] <@smaug> gabor: I don't know how to set the avatar
# [15:07] <@smaug> I thought it required some external service
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# [15:07] <gabor> smaug: I've heared it's based on gravatar
# [15:08] <@smaug> isn't that some external thing?
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# [15:09] <mkaply> OK, before I open a bug, does anyone else notice that mxr doesn't seem to find things anymore?
# [15:09] <mkaply> For instance
# [15:09] <mkaply> with this version
# [15:09] <mkaply> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=with%2Bthis%2Bversion
# [15:09] <@smaug> mkaply: I think there is some regression
# [15:09] <mkaply> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/locales/en-US/chrome/mozapps/extensions/selectAddons.dtd#8
# [15:09] <gabor> smaug: yeah that's an exteral thing
# [15:10] <@smaug> but I can't recall what exactly has regressed
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# [15:10] <mkaply> It's driving me crazy. It's become effectively useless
# [15:10] <@smaug> mkaply: indeed
# [15:11] <@smaug> and we don't have anything even close to usefulness of mxr
# [15:11] <@smaug> mkaply: please file a bug
# [15:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/18f9b93fe3f2 - Deian Stefan - Bug 886164 - Enforce CSP in sandboxed iframe. r=grobinson
# [15:11] <@smaug> cc me too
# [15:11] <mkaply> well, I tried dxr.mozilla.org.
# [15:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58e8f3ac3986 - Douglas Crosher - Bug 917800 - Odinmonkey: Correct rounding up of the heap length. r=luke
# [15:11] <mkaply> Interesting to say the least
# [15:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17abba1ddb3f - Yves Gwerder - Bug 913845 - Fix broken IonSpew filtering with IONFILTER env var. r=hv1989
# [15:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/98271bb483eb - Martin Stransky - Bug 914607 - Remove MOZ_WIDGET_GTK2. r=karlt
# [15:11] <RyanVM> Yoric: fx-team bustage
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# [15:12] <@smaug> mkaply: last time I looked dxr it missed for example links to blame
# [15:12] <@smaug> making it rather useless
# [15:13] <RyanVM> Yoric: oh bleh, you removed an #endif and not the #ifdef that goes with it
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# [15:14] <Yoric> RyanVM: ...
# [15:14] <Yoric> Which bug is that?
# [15:14] <RyanVM> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/ad57b713ac46
# [15:14] <Yoric> Oh.
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# [15:15] <Yoric> Silly me.
# [15:15] <Yoric> Sorry, I meant "silly other guy."
# [15:16] <RyanVM> hah
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# [15:16] <RyanVM> so kill line 393?
# [15:16] * RyanVM is ready to push with that confirmed
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# [15:17] <Yoric> I just uploaded a fixed patch.
# [15:17] <Yoric> And no, that's not it.
# [15:17] <RyanVM> ok
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# [15:25] <Fallen> its ok if its a hack
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# [17:01] <evilpie> RyanVM: hey
# [17:01] <evilpie> do I have to land stuff on aurora myself?
# [17:01] <RyanVM> evilpie: no, I will :)
# [17:01] <RyanVM> catching up from being off yesterday
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# [17:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d00e40c657a1 - Dan Gohman - Bug 915846 - IonMonkey: Fix MBoundsCheckLower elimination. r=nbp
# [17:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e8f4ce1c8390 - Dan Gohman - Bug 915846 - IonMonkey: Various tidy-ups. r=nbp
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# [17:09] <edmorley> RyanVM: which checkin-needed do we suspect for the crashes?
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# [17:10] <RyanVM> guessing 98271bb483eb
# [17:10] <RyanVM> since linux-only
# [17:10] <edmorley> RyanVM: that had a try run afaict
# [17:11] <edmorley> RyanVM: as did bug 886164, albeit then nits addressed
# [17:11] <RyanVM> hmm
# [17:11] <RyanVM> look at teh stack, though
# [17:11] <RyanVM> nsWindow
# [17:11] <RyanVM> nsBaseWidget
# [17:12] <RyanVM> hmm
# [17:12] <RyanVM> edmorley: i'm still going with 98271bb483eb
# [17:12] <RyanVM> could be something changed on m-c since his try run
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# [17:13] <philor> like "Ripc/Cipc aren't actually running unaccellerated"?
# [17:13] <edmorley> oh lol
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# [17:14] <RyanVM> que?
# [17:14] <edmorley> me being naive and presuming people rebased before using Try... but I guess that unaccelerated landing was pretty recent
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# [17:14] <RyanVM> sounds like we're unanimous then :)
# [17:14] <philor> late yesterday, yeah
# [17:14] <edmorley> RyanVM: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=917576
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# [17:14] <edmorley> philor: seems like days ago... bleugh
# [17:14] <RyanVM> haha, fail
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# [17:17] <philor> oh, it must be unaccerated?
# [17:17] <RyanVM> edmorley: did you see the tbpl bug I filed awhile back about retriggers not working when running from index.html?
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# [17:19] <edmorley> RyanVM: yeah, dug into it a bit but it wasn't anything too obvious - guessing cross-domain stuff that needs fixing on buildapi or whatever
# [17:19] <RyanVM> ok
# [17:19] <RyanVM> i'll take a look at some of those bugs you CCed me to, but probably not this week
# [17:19] <RyanVM> have some others to wrap up first
# [17:20] <edmorley> RyanVM: that's ok, wasn't meaning you had to, more that I didn't want to just CC Wes/Carsten and not you (though the primary motivation was to get them specifically working on some easier TBPL bugs to start getting familiar) :-)
# [17:21] <RyanVM> that's cool
# [17:21] <RyanVM> would love to con one of them into making showall=1 visible in the UI
# [17:22] <RyanVM> i looked into that once and decided it was over my head
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# [17:24] <@ted> just "someone did something weird"?
# [17:26] <RyanVM> hah, gotta love when you get a bug you filed duped to another bug you filed
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# [17:26] <RyanVM> fail
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# [17:26] <evilpie> KWierso: ping
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# [17:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6530dac0cf24 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 98271bb483eb (bug 914607) for crashtest/reftest crashes.
# [17:28] <edmorley> RyanVM: I do the same quite a bit :-) (and my other favourite - spotting what I think is a bug I've not read before and thinking I must CC myself, only to find I did the same last week(
# [17:28] <RyanVM> heh
# [17:28] <gaston> kinetik: is it normal for cubeb to rely on nspr defines ?
# [17:28] <gaston> media/libcubeb/src/cubeb_pulse.c:587:49: error: use of undeclared identifier 'PR_NSEC_PER_SEC'
# [17:29] <RyanVM> edmorley: with any luck, that backout takes care of the M1 and reftest failures too
# [17:29] <gaston> (interestingly it's in prtime.h but for some reason not reached on openbsd ?)
# [17:29] <edmorley> RyanVM: :-)
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# [17:32] <bsmedberg> ehsan: in the xpcom/base includes patch you're replacing some "nsString.h" with "nsStringGlue.h" which seems odd
# [17:32] <bsmedberg> why did you do that?
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# [17:36] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: hmm, I thought nsStringGlue.h is the header which knows what kind of string API we're dealing with?
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# [17:36] <@ehsan> (well that doesn't make a lot of sense inside xpcom!)
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# [17:37] <bsmedberg> ehsan: nsStringGlue is really only meant for code in xpcom/glue that may be compiled against the external or internal API
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# [17:37] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/string/public/nsString.h#6 probably confuses iwyu inside xpcom
# [17:37] <bsmedberg> huh, that doesn't look correct
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# [17:38] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: so we should not #include nsStringGlue anywhere outside of xpcom/glue?
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# [17:38] <bsmedberg> right
# [17:38] <@ehsan> whoops
# [17:38] <bsmedberg> I think that the primary string header is nsString.h
# [17:38] <bsmedberg> the thing about nsReadableUtils.h is a little weird
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# [17:38] <bsmedberg> maybe we should make nsString.h include that
# [17:39] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: it does: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/string/public/nsString.h#21
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# [17:40] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: I think I need to fix nsStringGlue tree-wide then.
# [17:40] <@ehsan> I'll remove those bits from those two patches before landing
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# [17:42] <gps> I /thought/ the bootstrapper did that automatically :/
# [17:42] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: any chance you could glance over <http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=IWYU+pragma&find=xpcom%2F&findi=&;filter=^[^\0]*%24&hitlimit=&tree=mozilla-central> and tell me if you see something else that doesn't look right?
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# [17:43] <bsmedberg> ehsan: nsAString.h should ref nsString.h. Everything else look right
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# [17:44] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: I will switch everything which references nsStringGlue.h over to nsString.h
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# [17:44] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: sorry for the mess here
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# [17:46] <@ehsan> edmorley: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b41f0e31ad73 is wrong...
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# [17:46] <@ehsan> edmorley: you can't return from the global scope
# [17:46] <@ehsan> I'll fix it
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# [17:48] <edmorley> ehsan: oh sorry meant to paste inside the function
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# [17:49] <edmorley> ehsan: happy to fix if you've not already
# [17:49] <@ehsan> edmorley: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7c3fdc3ace4 is also wrong
# [17:49] <@ehsan> edmorley: I am pushing a fix for the first one
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# [17:49] <edmorley> ehsan: ty
# [17:49] <@ehsan> edmorley: (see the oranges on inbound)
# [17:50] <edmorley> ehsan: yeah I can see them
# [17:50] <@ehsan> edmorley: I can back out the second patch so that we can reopen
# [17:50] <@ehsan> do you want me to?
# [17:50] <edmorley> ehsan: the imptests need better documentation as to how disable tests
# [17:50] <edmorley> ehsan: we can't reopen until Ryan's backout is proven green
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# [17:50] <@ehsan> edmorley: well, your patch is definitely broken :)
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# [17:50] <@ehsan> no matter what RyanVM's push says
# [17:51] <@ehsan> mochitest-2 is perma-orange now
# [17:51] <edmorley> ehsan: not disputing, but mine is an easy fix, the other backout not confirmed
# [17:51] <edmorley> ehsan: it's under control :-)
# [17:51] <@ehsan> ok, so you don't want me to back out that patch?
# [17:51] <edmorley> ehsan: I'll do it
# [17:51] <@ehsan> ok
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# [17:51] <edmorley> ehsan: thank you for spotting, was busy with some other bits
# [17:51] <@ehsan> np
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# [17:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23f57fc72fde - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 886781 follow-up: Disable the test properly, we can't return from the global scope
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# [17:53] <edmorley> ehsan: what's the correct form for disabling that imptest then?
# [17:53] <@ehsan> edmorley: I don't know
# [17:53] <@ehsan> sorry
# [17:53] <edmorley> :-(
# [17:53] <edmorley> np
# [17:53] <RyanVM> edmorley: ehsan: disable the entire directory? :)
# [17:53] <edmorley> lol
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# [17:54] <edmorley> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Sheriffing/Job_Visibility_Policy#9.29_Supports_the_disabling_of_individual_tests
# [17:54] <@ehsan> or, backout the patch which disables the test incorrectly ;)
# [17:54] <RyanVM> last I checked, "easy to disable" is part of the visibility guidelines
# [17:54] <RyanVM> yeah, what you said :P
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# [17:54] <@ehsan> not knowing how to do something doesn't mean it's difficult!
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# [17:55] <Callek> ehsan: well its difficult until you learn how :-)
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# [17:55] <@dbaron> remove the test from the Makefile?
# [17:55] <edmorley> ehsan: true, but it should be documented per https://wiki.mozilla.org/Sheriffing/Job_Visibility_Policy#10.29_Has_sufficient_documentation
# [17:55] <@dbaron> how is that different from any other mochitest?
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# [17:56] <edmorley> ehsan: the sheriffs sadly can't become domain experts on every imported harness :-)
# [17:56] <edmorley> dbaron: they are imported
# [17:56] <@ehsan> well you can ask other people to do the work to disable the tests!
# [17:56] <RyanVM> imported and unowned afaict
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# [17:56] <@dbaron> edmorley, this is a testharness.js test?
# [17:56] <@ehsan> they're not unowned
# [17:56] <@dbaron> edmorley, it's just running as a mochitest, so it's disabled just like a mochitest
# [17:57] <@dbaron> edmorley, which means removing it from the makefile
# [17:57] <RyanVM> ehsan: yeah, because all of our previous efforts to get the imptests running better have been so successful
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# [17:57] * NeilAway wonders what ehsan means by "fix nsStringGlue tree-wide"
# [17:57] <@ehsan> RyanVM: not sure how that's related to the tests being unowned
# [17:57] * RyanVM is looking at you, Windows M2
# [17:57] <edmorley> dbaron: "# THIS FILE IS AUTOGENERATED BY parseFailures.py - DO NOT EDIT" https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/file/a7c3fdc3ace4/dom/imptests/failures/html/html/browsers/the-window-object/Makefile.in#l1
# [17:57] <@ehsan> I thought Ms2ger owned them
# [17:57] <RyanVM> ehsan: presumably, an owner would prioritize them not running like rap
# [17:57] <RyanVM> crap*
# [17:57] <RyanVM> nope
# [17:57] <edmorley> dbaron: I could just remove and file a bug blocking the next import, but I was trying to disable it nicely :-)
# [17:58] <RyanVM> Ms2ger has specifically said in bugs that he imported them but has deferred trying to fix them
# [17:58] <RyanVM> relying on a volunteer to own a test suite seems a bit...fragile...to me too
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# [17:59] <@ehsan> edmorley: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/imptests/README?force=1#52
# [17:59] <@ehsan> RyanVM: under that definition, many of our other tests are also "unowned"
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# [18:00] <@ehsan> doesn't mean we should remove them
# [18:00] <edmorley> ehsan: that doesn't really help me
# [18:00] <RyanVM> ehsan: well, disabling is usually our last resort as you know
# [18:00] <edmorley> ehsan: I shouldn't be having to parse log files, this is ridiculous
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# [18:01] <@ehsan> edmorley: I don't understand what you're looking for then
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# [18:01] <RyanVM> ehsan: and I stand by my "relying on volunteers to own a test suite is a bad idea" statement
# [18:01] <edmorley> ehsan: an easy to use manifest format
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# [18:01] <@ehsan> RyanVM: I don't think it's productive to discredit the efforts of our contributors like that
# [18:01] <@dbaron> edmorley, so remove it from the makefile and then tell ms2ger to fix it better when he has time
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# [18:02] <@ehsan> edmorley: mochitests don't have manifests!
# [18:02] <RyanVM> ehsan: as evidenced by said volunteer basically saying "i just imported them" when asked to try to help fix them
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# [18:02] <RyanVM> ehsan: this has nothing to do with discrediting
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# [18:02] <edmorley> dbaron: in process of doing so now :-)
# [18:02] <@ehsan> RyanVM: sorry, but I find the "relying on volunteers to own a test suite is a bad idea" blanket statement quite harsh
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# [18:03] <@dbaron> RyanVM, edmorley, I also think it's pretty important to our mission to actually run the *same* tests that other browsers are running, and we've been pretty bad about doing it.
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# [18:03] <edmorley> ehsan: yeah I'm aware mochitests don't have manifests, I'm referring to whatever the failure.json files are
# [18:03] <RyanVM> ehsan: my point is only that the accountability standards are looser for volunteers
# [18:03] <@ehsan> dbaron: seconded
# [18:03] <RyanVM> dbaron: so Windows M2 has been OOMing on them for a *long* time now
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# [18:03] <@ehsan> RyanVM: that kind of accountability doesn't really exist for paid contributors either
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# [18:04] <edmorley> dbaron: I have no problem with imported tests, just with any tests harness (imported or otherwise) that doesn't come with sufficient documentation to disable an individual test should the need arise
# [18:04] <@dbaron> RyanVM, maybe bring it up at the platform meeting or on dev-platform and ask if somebody's willing to own that problem?
# [18:04] <@dbaron> edmorley, edit the makefile, just like any other mochitest
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# [18:04] <@ehsan> edmorley: I did point you to the documentation, and dbaron suggested modifying the Makefile...
# [18:04] <edmorley> dbaron: 17:02:56 - <span class="ib-sender">edmorley</span>: dbaron: in process of doing so now :-)
# [18:05] <edmorley> ty :-)
# [18:05] <@ehsan> not sure what more we can do short of adding a manifest format of some sort
# [18:05] <@ehsan> which will not be a magic bullet either
# [18:06] <edmorley> ehsan: the unfortunate thing was that the failure json files looked pretty straight-forwards, otherwise I would have just taken the makefile approach
# [18:06] <edmorley> I know for next time at least :-)
# [18:06] <@ehsan> edmorley: :)
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# [18:10] <jgraham> FWIW I'm in the process of removing the testharness.js-on-mochitest problem (and replacing it with a whole new set of problems, I expect :)
# [18:10] <jgraham> But that is not a very rapid process
# [18:10] <mwargers> peterv, ping?
# [18:10] <RyanVM> how often are these tests updated upstream?
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# [18:11] * RyanVM can't recall the last time he saw an update from upstream
# [18:11] <jgraham> RyanVM: A lot
# [18:11] <jgraham> I don't know what the current process for updating is
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# [18:11] <RyanVM> ehsan: so to the point of ownership, who decides when to update the in-tree copy?
# [18:11] <jgraham> But in The Glorious Future, I want the updates to be automated and frequent
# [18:11] * RyanVM sees that as a rather important part of it
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# [18:12] <@ehsan> RyanVM: I'm not sure
# [18:12] <jgraham> I'm pretty sure Ms2ger owns these tests
# [18:13] <jgraham> Him being away isn't much different from an employee being away
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# [18:13] <jgraham> So you could restate the problem as "single points of failure are bad"
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# [18:13] <RyanVM> ehsan: last update I see is February-ish?
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# [18:13] <@ehsan> jgraham++
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# [18:13] <@ehsan> RyanVM: sure
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# [18:14] <RyanVM> if I'm reading things right (big qualifier there), the editing imptests have never been updated from their import in 2012
# [18:15] * RyanVM wonders how recent of a rev the other browsers are running on
# [18:15] <jgraham> Those tests may never have changed
# [18:15] <jgraham> (the editing ones)
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# [18:15] <jgraham> Since "editing" as a concept on the platform is unowned
# [18:15] <RyanVM> jgraham: maybe, I'm obviously not aware of all the going-ons there :)
# [18:16] <@ehsan> RyanVM: they have not (AFAIK)
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# [18:16] <RyanVM> so we know the html tests are at least 7 months old vs. upstream
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# [18:17] <RyanVM> maybe updating them would help some of our problems, maybe they'd be a whole new source, who knows
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# [18:17] <@ehsan> either is conceivable
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# [18:17] <RyanVM> anyway, I need to stop bikeshedding and get back to catching up from being out yesterday
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# [18:18] <jgraham> There needs to be a generally better process here
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# [18:18] <jgraham> I'm not sure how much time it's worth sinking into the current implementation vs getting the new one working better
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# [18:18] <jgraham> Certainly I don't think the new one is going to happen in the short term
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# [18:19] <@ehsan> RyanVM: not at all :)
# [18:19] * @ehsan used to be a non-paid contributor ages ago too
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# [18:52] <@smaug> ferjm: just about to hop off the train
# [18:52] <@smaug> back online later
# [18:53] <ferjm> smaug, ok, np, talk to you later :)
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# [18:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e0df613915c7 - Douglas Crosher - Bug 916539 - ARM: Integer multiplication by a constant negative power of two is incorrectly optimized to a shift operation. r=mjrosenb, a=lsblakk
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# [18:58] <RyanVM|brb> eeejay: Fx25 IIRC --> ehsan?
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# [18:58] <+eeejay> just found the relnote bug
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# [18:59] <padenot> eeejay: yep, 25
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# [19:00] <+eeejay> padenot, so that is beta today, but i don't see it preffed on
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# [19:00] <padenot> ha
# [19:00] <padenot> interesting.
# [19:00] <padenot> maybe it's because we kind of missed the uplift and need to uplift a couple more patches?
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# [19:01] <+eeejay> i need to do that for web speech api as well
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# [19:02] <@ehsan> eeejay: it should be on in beta
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# [19:04] <+eeejay> ah, just found it
# [19:04] <+eeejay> ok
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# [19:22] <dholbert> mwargers, ping
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# [19:25] <blassey> gps: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a4774933d7a38ff5f832
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# [19:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7a1c35bce2a - Byron Campen [:bwc] - Bug 916187. Part 3. Double checking for leaks in new test stun server code, and fixing other things as I see them. r=abr
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# [19:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce4aadef1cc5 - Byron Campen [:bwc] - Bug 916187. Part 2. Using the test stun server, write some tests to exercise the checking logic written in 908740. r=abr
# [19:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6948b7730d67 - EKR - Bug 916187. Part 1. Cleanup of trickle candidates and a test STUN server r=abr
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# [19:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c301037184db - Brad Lassey - bug 918378 - restrict WiFi permissions to nightly and aurora r=mfinkle
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# [19:36] <mwargers> dholbert, pong
# [19:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa93203babed - Malini Das - Bug 779284 - Implement B2G Modal dialog handling to Marionette, r=jgriffin,mdas
# [19:36] <dholbert> mwargers, unping, sorry
# [19:36] <mwargers> np
# [19:36] <dholbert> mwargers, (review comments coming shortly for your reftest-to-mochitest conversion)
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# [19:37] <mwargers> ok, cool
# [19:37] <mwargers> I'll be out for a couple of hours, though
# [19:37] <dholbert> np
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# [19:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/33e063f01073 - Brad Lassey - bug 918378 - restrict WiFi permissions to nightly and aurora r=mfinkle a=akeybl
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# [19:41] <gps> blassey: you are running from inside a virtualenv?
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# [19:41] <gps> blassey: rm -rf objdir/_virtualenv and run configure again
# [19:41] <blassey> is virtualenv a python thing?
# [19:41] <gps> yes
# [19:41] <blassey> I killed the objdir
# [19:41] <blassey> its a fresh build
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# [19:43] <gps> blassey: but that log isn't from a clobber build
# [19:43] <blassey> no
# [19:44] <gps> i'd like to see the output from a clobber configure (or at least once where objdir/_virtualenv doesn't exist)
# [19:44] <blassey> this is https://gist.github.com/anonymous/976510674043b1171cf7
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# [19:45] <gps> blassey: that's a different error unrelated to python
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# [19:45] <blassey> it is
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# [19:46] <blassey> who knows at this point
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# [19:57] <evilpie> KWierso: I commented in bug 918119 already
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# [19:59] <KaiRo> davidb: please file a bug on that socorro exploitability stuff, I think there might be something broken
# [19:59] <fitzgen> does anyone know if you can use https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:REST_API:Search and include bugs that your queried bug depends on in the results? Nothing mentioned in those docs :(
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# [20:03] <mina> is there a way to show the diff between two patches?
# [20:03] <mina> so not the diff between two files, but the diff between two patches
# [20:03] <bz> diff
# [20:03] <myk> mina: interdiff
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# [20:12] <davidb> KaiRo: will do. Thnx
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# [20:14] <dholbert> ehsan++
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# [20:21] <dholbert> Waldo, you've worked on TypedEnum.h; is there any way to ask for a strongly-typed enum if you don't know (or care) what the underlying data type is?
# [20:21] <dholbert> Waldo, (AFAICT, all of our strongly-typed enum macros require you to specify what integer type it's backed by)
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# [20:22] <@ehsan> dholbert: use int?
# [20:22] <dholbert> ehsan, is that the recommended solution?
# [20:23] <kamidphish> gcp: I just ran into the same issue.
# [20:23] <dholbert> ehsan, we don't really use normal "int" in most places
# [20:23] <@ehsan> dholbert: well, enums are ints
# [20:23] <dholbert> ehsan, seems reasonable, though
# [20:23] <@ehsan> by default
# [20:23] <gcp> pah, I can't find any Ubuntu PPA's with an update :-/
# [20:23] <Waldo> dholbert: well, C++11 at least says |enum class Foo { ... };| is valid, so we could add more macrology to support that
# [20:23] <gcp> I'm on Natty
# [20:23] <@ehsan> dholbert: (what I said is not exactly true though)
# [20:24] <dholbert> Waldo, /me files bug on that
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# [20:24] <gcp> gps: would Python 3.3 work?
# [20:24] <dholbert> ehsan, yeah... it's unnecessary boilerplate and a decision that I'd rather just trust the compiler with, I guess
# [20:24] <@ehsan> fair enough
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# [20:26] <edmorley|away> ehsan: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=28103108&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [20:26] <@ehsan> edmorley|away: gah, I pushed the wrong patch :( sorry
# [20:27] <@ehsan> will back out now
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# [20:28] <edmorley|away> ehsan: np; my recond for today is suboptimal so I can't exactly comment ;-)
# [20:28] <edmorley|away> record even
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# [20:30] <dholbert> ehsan / Waldo: filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=918436
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# [20:30] <gcp> gps: nevermind, I see the "but not python3 message". I'm fucked.
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# [20:50] <bsmedberg> glandium: is `static nsRefPtr<Foo> gFoo;` against the rules because of static constructors now?
# [20:51] <Yoric> mikedeboer: Async meeting?
# [20:51] <tbsaunde> bsmedberg: given the existance of StaticRefPtr I hope so
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# [20:55] <arnaud_bienner> dholbert: Hi :)
# [20:55] <dholbert> arnaud_bienner, hi!
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# [20:55] <arnaud_bienner> dholbert: Have you seen my latest comment?
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# [20:56] <arnaud_bienner> About the -moz-button-content, and how I might use it instead of creating a new element for -moz-color-swatch
# [20:56] <dholbert> arnaud_bienner, oh, sorry - I saw it while eating breakfast this morning, and then forgot that I'd seen it when I got to work
# [20:57] <arnaud_bienner> no worries :)
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# [20:57] <dholbert> arnaud_bienner, (I'll be more likely to remember to respond to questions if you tag me for "needinfo?" -- it's the New Awesome Way to make sure you get responses in bugs. :))
# [20:58] <arnaud_bienner> dholbert: I should probably use this indeed. I will next time ;)
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# [20:58] <dholbert> arnaud_bienner, I'll respond on the bug. Thanks for the reminder
# [20:58] <arnaud_bienner> dholbert: Thanks to you for helping me on this :)
# [20:58] <dholbert> sure!
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# [21:05] <jld> Lazyweb, how common is it to use the bugzilla assignee field to mean "person responsible for finding an owner", rather than "person expected to do the actual work"?
# [21:06] <jld> I've heard this is done, but I don't know if it's a FxOSism or more widespread than that.
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# [21:13] <dholbert> jld, I've seen it occasionally in triage of randomorange bugs
# [21:13] <dholbert> though in that context, I've usually seen it as a "please fix this or find someone who can" kind of a thing
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# [21:17] <whimboo> Unfocused: hi. are you around?
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# [21:20] <@smaug> ferjm: sorry, took awhile. pong
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# [21:23] <jdm> jld: outside of b2g I'm used to seeing needinfo be used for that instead
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# [21:26] <ferjm> smaug, hi! no problem :) I was wondering if what Nikhil said at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/mozilla.dev.b2g/fRkIJT3J8u8/RbF_BZeL1ysJ is correct. Were you suggesting that we should delegate the API's responsibility to keep it's objects alive?
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# [21:27] <@smaug> ferjm: yes
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# [21:28] <@smaug> that is why I thought whether window object could keep expandos alive
# [21:28] <@smaug> ferjm: but apparently that expando approach wouldn't work too well
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# [21:29] <@smaug> hmm, odd, apparently I had missed one message
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# [21:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a84f156f3164 - Birunthan Mohanathas - Bug 784739 - Switch from NULL to nullptr in js/ductwork/, js/ipc/, and js/public/; r=ehsan
# [21:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae180b16eda7 - Birunthan Mohanathas - Bug 784739 - Switch from NULL to nullptr in netwerk/ (2/2); r=ehsan
# [21:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/06025e91dc9f - Birunthan Mohanathas - Bug 784739 - Switch from NULL to nullptr in netwerk/ (1/2); r=ehsan
# [21:30] <@smaug> nsm: btw, I don't know where MessagePort comes?
# [21:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: hmm, not sure what to make of Linux M1 and reftest on inbound at this point
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# [21:30] <@smaug> MessagePort should stay alive if the other side is kept alive via strong ref
# [21:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: would have figured the backout would have taken care of it
# [21:31] <@smaug> nsm: ah, you're not talking about real MessagePorts
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# [21:32] <ferjm> smaug, so the alternative is to allow DOMRequestHelper to hold strong refs, right? I guess nsm is referring to MozInterAppMessagePort
# [21:32] <ferjm> smaug, properly referring to bug 915898
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# [21:32] <@smaug> ferjm: yup, not about real MessagePorts
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# [21:33] <@smaug> I mean the ones baku|away is implementing
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# [21:33] <@smaug> ferjm: but yes, something needs to keep object alive long enough
# [21:33] <@smaug> but not too long
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# [21:33] <@smaug> adding strong message listener is one option
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# [21:34] <@smaug> but then one needs to remember to remove the listener when it is no longer needed
# [21:34] <@gavin> how long does
# [21:34] <@gavin> WINNT 5.2 try build usually take
# [21:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> being a full clobber, probably 2.5ish hr
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# [21:35] <@gavin> ok
# [21:35] <@gavin> should've gone to best buy to buy a machine instead
# [21:35] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: and it did take care of it, just not... permanently
# [21:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gavin: life will be a bit better when checktests don't as part of the build anymore
# [21:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gavin: I killed checktests on the linux64 static analysis builds, and the time went from 120min down to ~45
# [21:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: I think the original issue may have been needs-clobber, so I guess it's possible that the backout may have too
# [21:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> if no other instances, I'm good calling it that and getting on with life :)
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# [21:37] <ferjm> smaug, as I mentioned, we are already removing listeners on inner-window-destroyed, but that's not enough. Could we also remove listeners from the parent side if the child side (usually inheriting from DOMRequestHelper) dies? Maybe that's something that the message manager itself does.
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# [21:39] <@smaug> ferjm: it does not
# [21:39] <@smaug> since mm doesn't know which listeners are connected to each others
# [21:40] <@smaug> ferjm: hmm, did I misunderstand jlebar|away's changes
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# [21:40] <@smaug> I thought he focused on the child side
# [21:40] <@smaug> with those weak listeners
# [21:40] <@smaug> or is it both child and parent process?
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# [21:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/81bdaf47872d - Dan Gohman - Bug 918031 - IonMonkey: Use useRegisterAtStart for LUnbox and LUnboxDouble on x64. r=sstangl
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# [21:44] <gaston> what kind if interaction we can have with bugzilla from a MUA ? iirc there was something with the rest api...
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# [21:45] <ferjm> smaug, only child side so far. I was just thinking out loud trying to look for a way to remove the listeners from a message manager if a child process dies
# [21:45] <gaston> theres bzapi but i dont remember how one can interact with it by sending mails..
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# [21:46] <@smaug> ferjm: that might be a useful addition to mm
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# [21:46] <@smaug> ferjm: some kind of listener id
# [21:46] <@smaug> and have similar id on the parent side
# [21:46] <@smaug> and do automatic removal
# [21:46] <@smaug> ferjm: please file a but, Core: DOM
# [21:46] <@smaug> CC me
# [21:47] <@smaug> s/but/bug/
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# [21:47] <ferjm> smaug, ok, will do. Thanks
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# [22:09] <gaston> bjacob: a mesa/gl update on OpenBSD brought us webgl support working fine on ati & intel :)
# [22:10] <bjacob> gaston: \o/
# [22:10] <bjacob> gaston: what mesa version?
# [22:10] <gaston> let me check
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# [22:10] <gaston> Device ID Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV610
# [22:10] <gaston> Driver Version 2.1 Mesa 7.11.2
# [22:11] <bjacob> oh, that is still very old!!
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# [22:11] <bjacob> like, 2 years old
# [22:11] <gaston> oh wait, in fact i dont have the update yet
# [22:11] <gaston> but previously i had 'blocked for your gfx card because of unresolved issues'
# [22:12] <gaston> now it just works
# [22:12] <bjacob> good, good
# [22:12] <gaston> maybe thats radeon/kms work that made it work
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# [22:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> geekboy: ping
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# [22:21] <dholbert> RyanVM|sheriffduty, he's probably busy censoring the internet
# [22:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> oh boy
# [22:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> guess I'll just backout then
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# [22:23] <nsm> ok, well if it doesn't work, run the buying thing by doug, since he will be the one approving it
# [22:23] <nsm> ferjm: can you CC me on that bug too
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# [22:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/783e9b309548 - Dan Gohman - Bug 917991 - Use higher-level interfaces which are nicer, and avoid using temporary registers in some cases as a bonus. r=luke
# [22:24] <nsm> ferjm: also are you going to try the approach i suggested on dev.b2g for IAC?
# [22:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/47bb120b49f0 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 886164 - Disable test on B2G since it relies on observers working.
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# [22:26] <dholbert> RyanVM|sheriffduty, [geekboy returns]
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# [22:26] <geekboy> okay then, what's up RyanVM|sheriffduty ?
# [22:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> geekboy: discussion moved to #security
# [22:27] <geekboy> ok
# [22:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> though the above inbound push gives it away :P
# [22:27] <fabrice> is there a way to attach gdb to an xpcshell test ?
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# [22:29] <WeirdAl> fabrice: there most certainly is :)
# [22:29] <WeirdAl> check-interactive is what you're looking for
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# [22:30] <WeirdAl> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Writing_xpcshell-based_unit_tests#Via_check-interactive
# [22:30] <fabrice> WeirdAl: thanks!
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# [22:31] <WeirdAl> wow, I didn't realize we had that for six plus years now.
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# [22:34] <lsblakk> RyanVM|sheriffduty: how come bug 916504 landed to aurora without approval?
# [22:34] <@dolske> fabrice: "mach help xpcshell-test"
# [22:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lsblakk: roll-up from bug 916531
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# [22:35] <lsblakk> hm. i approved a patch on bug 916531 - not sure why the patch on the other wouldn't have been nominated
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# [22:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lsblakk: the approval request on 916531 says it's a roll-up of all 3
# [22:36] <ferjm> nsm, well, actually I think the bug for IAC (bug 915898) might be solved by adding/removing the listeners on demand, when the message port is created/destroyed as I suggested in the mailing list
# [22:36] <lsblakk> RyanVM|sheriffduty: oh i see now, combined patch
# [22:36] <lsblakk> ok then
# [22:36] <lsblakk> thanks :)
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# [22:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lsblakk: any time :)
# [22:37] <nsm> ferjm: ok, so when there is more than zero messageport, you register the listener?
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# [22:40] <ferjm|dinner> nsm, good question :) I don't think so. I still need to look at the code though
# [22:40] <WeirdAl> dolske - should there be an update to the devmo page I posted, for mach?
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# [22:43] <@dolske> WeirdAl: yes, once gps removes the old make invocations that can all be deleted. :P
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# [22:57] <nrc> bsmedberg: ping
# [22:57] <bsmedberg> nrc: pong
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# [22:59] <dougt> gps: ping?
# [22:59] <nrc> bsmedberg: hi, I have a mochitest where one process is deliberately crashed. Then on the main process I try to deallocate that shmem and that fails because "bad shmem". Do you have any idea why that could happen? (This is on Windows)
# [22:59] <dougt> i am going to back out 870420
# [23:00] <dougt> i am blocked by this change, and it doesn't look like you did anything to help resolve this issue... or provide any justification on why we need this change.
# [23:00] <nrc> bsmedberg: I have tried checking IsWritable before deallocating, and that doesn't help
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# [23:01] <dholbert> Question about inline functions... Suppose I have e.g. "inline void DoSomething(nscoord aLength)" which might or might not actually use aLength (depending on other state). Suppose I invoke it by passing e.g. ExpensiveComputation() for aLength. Will ExpensiveComputation() be invoked, in the cases where aLength goes unused?
# [23:01] <dholbert> i.e. if I call DoSomething(ExpensiveComputation()), and DoSomething takes a code-path that ignores its arg, will ExpensiveComputation actually be invoked?
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# [23:01] <dougt> bsmedberg: ^
# [23:01] <dholbert> (I could make sure it won't using a macro, but I'm not sure it's worth it)
# [23:01] <bsmedberg> nrc: shared memory is managed by IPDL. I believe you are responsible for preventing use of a shmem in your ActorDestroy method
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# [23:02] <mbrubeck> dholbert: You definitely couldn't guarantee that optimization in general, since ExpensiveComputation() could have side effects...
# [23:02] <dholbert> mbrubeck, ah, good point
# [23:02] <dougt> bsmedberg: any objection?
# [23:02] <dholbert> mbrubeck, you've convinced me; I should use a macro then
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# [23:02] <dholbert> mbrubeck, thanks!
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# [23:04] <bsmedberg> dougt: I don't think you should back it out, no. Work with greg to figure out what's going on.
# [23:04] <dougt> do you realize this is exactly the same failure that I reported?
# [23:04] <bsmedberg> Assuming the other bug gps mentioned didn't fix it, gps should probably back it out until that is fixed.
# [23:04] <dougt> and it is also busted gcp
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# [23:05] <gcp> it will bust anyone that doesn't have a trivial python upgrade path
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# [23:05] <gcp> which is a real issue for linux distros that use python 2.7 for system tools
# [23:05] <dougt> gcp: that is dumb
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# [23:06] <dougt> gcp: this is as trivial as it gets -- i use homebrew on the mac
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# [23:06] <dougt> how do I get your checkin to work?
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# [23:08] <dougt> how about this... i'll remove brew and install again.
# [23:08] <dougt> which is fucking dumb
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# [23:08] <nrc> bsmedberg: I am getting the assert in the ipdl generated DeallocShmem function
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# [23:08] <bsmedberg> nrc: what's the call stack?
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# [23:09] <@gavin> nrc: bug 910962?
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# [23:09] <nrc> bsmedberg: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=28086871&tree=Try, the first call stack
# [23:09] <dougt> uninstalling python, and reinstalling python didn't work
# [23:10] <dougt> gps: do you have any further suggestions?
# [23:10] <nrc> gavin: could be, thanks, looking
# [23:10] <@gavin> nrc: (not that much useful in that bug)
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# [23:12] <bsmedberg> nrc: it appears that the layer system is freeing a shmem which was already freed by the IPDL system
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# [23:12] <nrc> bsmedberg: is that shmem freed when the process crashes?
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# [23:13] <dougt> gps:
# [23:13] <dougt> this is what you need:
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# [23:13] <@bsmedberg> nrc: yes, IPDL owns ShMem instances and so it frees them when actors are destroyed
# [23:13] <dougt> brew link --overwrite python OR brew unlink python && brew link python
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# [23:13] <dougt> your bootstrap command didn't do that.
# [23:14] <gps> dougt: brew uninstall python
# [23:14] <gps> brew clean python
# [23:14] <gps> mach bootstrap
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# [23:14] <dougt> let me try that
# [23:14] <nrc> bsmedberg: is there any way to tell from another process that the shmem has been destroyed?
# [23:14] <gps> dougt: which mercurial changeset are you on?
# [23:15] <dougt> tip of mc
# [23:15] <@bsmedberg> nrc: yes, every parent actor is responsible for doing cleanup in ActorDestroy
# [23:15] <dougt> brew clean python <---- not a command
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# [23:15] <dougt> building python from ./mach bootstrap now...
# [23:15] <gps> brew cleanup python
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# [23:16] <gps> also try |brew doctor|
# [23:16] <dougt> doctor worked
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# [23:16] <dougt> that doens't reset symlinks though
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# [23:17] <gps> dougt: brew update as well
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# [23:17] <dougt> gps: what you should do is when you get:
# [23:17] <dougt> Error: python-2.7.5 already installed
# [23:17] <dougt> you should reset symlinks as I mentiond.
# [23:17] <dougt> i think that will fix most of the mac bustage we saw
# [23:19] <dougt> gps: i am fixed now.
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# [23:19] <dougt> i think gcp is still busted.
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# [23:19] <gps> dougt: how did you "reset symlinks"?
# [23:20] <dougt> in the bug
# [23:20] <dougt> brew link --overwrite python OR brew unlink python && brew link python
# [23:20] <gcp> I unbusted myself through pyenv. I simply want to point out that "just upgrade python to a new x.y.z release" isn't easy if just z varies.
# [23:20] <nrc> bsmedberg: sorry, I don't understand. The shmem is allocated here http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/thebes/gfxBaseSharedMemorySurface.h#l57 which says that the caller is responsible for deallocating. But that shmem is being automatically deallocated by ipdl when the child process crashes. How does the parent process know to no longer use that shmem? And not to deallocate it?
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# [23:20] <dougt> gcp: well, what I was saying was there was little justification to use this version
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# [23:20] <gcp> The justification is in the bug.
# [23:20] <dougt> i didn't say little.
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# [23:21] <dougt> i mean, i said little
# [23:21] <dougt> not no.
# [23:21] <gcp> I'm not sure it considered that this makes building firefox significantly harder in many situations.
# [23:21] <@bsmedberg> gcp: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/ipc/glue/Shmem.h#28 IPDL manages shmem instances
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# [23:21] <@bsmedberg> sorry, that was for nrc
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# [23:21] <@bsmedberg> nrc: ^^ under normal operation, you should delete live shmem when you don't need them any more
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# [23:22] <@bsmedberg> but under error situations, IPDL knows what shmem is active and will destroy it when tearing down the actor tree
# [23:22] <@bsmedberg> I'm commenting in the bug
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# [23:24] <gaston> struct IHadBetterBeIPDLCodeCallingThis_OtherwiseIAmADoodyhead {};
# [23:24] <gaston> nice
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# [23:27] <@bsmedberg> nrc: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=910962#c5
# [23:27] <nrc> bsmedberg: thanks, reading....
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# [23:28] <gps> dougt, gcp: there are good reasons from my perspective. people have to install software to build firefox. some people have it harder than others. we all just have to deal with it
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# [23:28] <decoder> what component do skia bugs go to?
# [23:29] <gaston> decoder: gfx ?
# [23:29] <decoder> gaston: ok thx
# [23:29] <nrc> decoder: Graphics and cc gw280 and snorp
# [23:29] <decoder> nrc: thx
# [23:29] <decoder> gw280 is gwright?
# [23:29] <nrc> yep
# [23:30] <decoder> nice
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# [23:30] <decoder> gw280: ping
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# [23:31] <philor> RyanVM|afk: do you know what it was that fixed the red Gu on the trunk, to get it uplifted to aurora? imma get bored starring them hidden after a couple years otherwise
# [23:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/960bd6979736 - Garrett Robinson - Bug 916446 -Pass reportOnly to CSPRep.fromString so invalid pre-1.0 CSP headers aren't accidentally enforced. r=sstamm
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# [23:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7276b599536 - Cykesiopka - Bug 914272 - Move IS_COMPONENT to mozbuild. r=joey
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# [23:33] <RyanVM|afk> philor: I think they just disabled the test
# [23:33] <RyanVM|afk> if it's the one I'm thinking of
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# [23:33] <philor> simple, yet effective!
# [23:33] <dougt> GPS. Just make it fast and painless. That is what we need.
# [23:33] <RyanVM|afk> yep, that's the one
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# [23:40] <aja> grobinson: that checkin should fix tweetdeck?
# [23:40] <nrc> bsmedberg: does ActorDestroy get called before the DeallocSubtree initiated destruction in the call stack?
# [23:41] <@bsmedberg> yes
# [23:41] <@bsmedberg> that's actually the whole point of ActorDestroy ;-)
# [23:41] <@bsmedberg> "DestroySubtree is coming next, clean up your shit now"
# [23:41] <nrc> right :-)
# [23:42] <nrc> bsmedberg: and if it is a normal shutdown, we don't have to do anything special, but if it is abnormal we should forget about our shmems, because IPDL is deallocating them?
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# [23:42] <@bsmedberg> nrc: well, you can deallocate them yourself from within ActorDestroy
# [23:43] <grobinson> aja: Bug 916446, it's checkin-needed atm
# [23:43] <@bsmedberg> I think...
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# [23:44] <nrc> bsmedberg: oh, I see, so we should dealloc shmem in ActorDestroy, rather than in DeallocSubtree?
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# [23:45] <@bsmedberg> nrc: you can, yeah
# [23:45] <@bsmedberg> doing it in DeallocSubtree is almost certainly too late
# [23:46] <nrc> bsmedberg: 'can' sounds like it is sub-optimal
# [23:46] <nrc> bsmedberg: is there a better way?
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# [23:47] <@bsmedberg> nrc: if there's an active Shmem when ActorDestroy is called, you have two options:
# [23:47] <@bsmedberg> 1) dealloc it from within ActorDestroy
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# [23:47] <@bsmedberg> 2) don't touch it ever again
# [23:47] <@bsmedberg> either of those is ok, I think, so it really depends on your code architecture which is easier
# [23:48] <nrc> bsmedberg: ok, that makes sense
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# [23:48] <nrc> bsmedberg: thanks for all the help, everything is much clearer
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