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  1. # Session Start: Sat Sep 21 00:00:00 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
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  5. # [00:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/120d13ba7b71 - Joey Armstrong - bug 882907: move SDK_LIBRARY to mozbuild. r=mshal
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  14. # [00:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/567e911cf4d5 - Jeff Walden - Bug 501739 - Followup: add a test for the bug in the original patch, as pointed out by review comments. r=test
  15. # [00:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8da8cfe2c47f - Jeff Walden - Bug 853301 - Make available-locale computation lazier so that creating a global doesn't immediately call into ICU to create mega-sized arrays. r=till
  16. # [00:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/76f9cced8105 - David Anderson - Fix window.focus() in content processes (bug 902715, r=enndeakin).
  17. # [00:10] <jesup> gps: ping
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  20. # [00:11] <jesup> gps: ./mach bootstrap broke my graph script: matplotlib requires dateutil
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  22. # [00:12] <jesup> incorrectly
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  25. # [00:15] <bholley> Fallen|away: hi
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  35. # [00:21] <gps> jesup: huh?
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  40. # [00:23] <jesup> gps: the ./mach bootstrap failed (after updating python), se a while back. (1 hourish). Then I found it broke python-matplotlib in all sorts of fun ways
  41. # [00:23] <luisbg> anybody attending the Mozilla Hackathon in Montreal tomorrow?
  42. # [00:23] <gps> jesup: when you upgrade python, you typically need to rebuild binary extensions
  43. # [00:23] <gps> or you will have a bad time
  44. # [00:23] <jesup> Finally sudo pip install --upgrade matplotlib fixed things (after pip updating python-dateutils and numpy)
  45. # [00:23] <gps> jesup: sudo pip is a bad idea
  46. # [00:24] <jesup> gps: didn't work without it
  47. # [00:24] <gps> "use virtualenvs for everything"
  48. # [00:24] <gps> never install things into your system python's folders
  49. # [00:24] <gps> or you will have a bad time
  50. # [00:24] <gps> quote me on that
  51. # [00:24] <Callek> gps: "you will have a bad time"
  52. # [00:24] <Callek> done
  53. # [00:24] <jesup> I was fishing around, since I was broken by this. I know close to nothing about python install setups
  54. # [00:25] <gps> virtualenv == reproducible and standalone python environments. kinda like python installation sandboxes
  55. # [00:25] <gps> want a package? create a virtualenv and install the package there
  56. # [00:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d35068ec2f5 - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 881804 (part 3) - Plumb script loader into predictive network actions. r=jst
  57. # [00:25] <gps> package stop working? recreate the virtualenv from scratch
  58. # [00:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a24b77d4ffb - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 881804 (part 5) - Plumb image loader into predictive network actions. r=seth
  59. # [00:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8a172fa4b20 - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 881804 (part 1) - Add support for predictive network actions. r=mcmanus f=honzab sr=biesi
  60. # [00:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/757790e5cd9f - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 881804 (part 2) - Plumb docshell into predictive network actions. r=smaug
  61. # [00:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61972f55702b - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 881804 (part 6) - Plumb browser UI into predictive network actions to allow clearing data. r=ttaubert r=mossop f=gavin
  62. # [00:26] <jesup> ok. on Linux I just yum installed python-matplotlib and all was happy
  63. # [00:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9fbcf4c3ab2b - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 881804 (part 4) - Plumb layout into predictive network actions. r=bz
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  66. # [00:26] <gps> I don't trust python packaging outside of pip
  67. # [00:27] <gps> distros typically package popular python packages as "native" OS packages for convenience. 95% of the time you don't need those packages and you can install from pip just fine
  68. # [00:27] <jesup> gps: If I knew how to build a virtualenv and recreate it that might be useful advice. And I was following the advice in teh script (from padenot) to install python-matplotlib
  69. # [00:28] <gps> http://www.virtualenv.org/en/latest/
  70. # [00:28] <gps> virtualenv path/to/new/env
  71. # [00:28] <gps> source path/to/new/env/bin/activate
  72. # [00:28] <gps> pip install matplotlib
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  74. # [00:28] <gps> when you are done: deactivate
  75. # [00:28] <gps> or exit the shell
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  79. # [00:29] <gps> jesup: it's a common problem. don't feel bad
  80. # [00:29] <gps> you learn the hard way that it's best to use virtualenvs for everything
  81. # [00:30] <jesup> This all seems... overly complex.
  82. # [00:30] <gps> packaging is complex
  83. # [00:30] <jesup> I suppose it's the answer to "my package only works with versions X of A, and version Y of B". But that's not a good thing to begin with...
  84. # [00:30] <gps> upgrading python can be thought of as installing a new libc: you'll likely have to recompile everything
  85. # [00:31] <@dbaron> hmmm, is it intentional that I can no longer hit enter to follow a link that I've found through the find bar?
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  88. # [00:32] <Luqman> gps: pythonbrew is very useful for juggling multiple python versions
  89. # [00:32] <jesup> gps: so I hope we had a darn good reason for forcing updates then.... and why doesn't updating update subsidary things, or at least tell you it needs to?
  90. # [00:32] <gps> jesup: how do you know what needs updating without thorougly scanning the system?
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  92. # [00:33] <gps> jesup: also |sudo pip install| breaks the OS contract of "don't let the user touch /usr/bin"
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  101. # [00:36] <gps> hmm. I just qpush'd a patch that moves a file and makes minor modifications to that file. the catch: the file was modified in inbound after I created the patch. yet Mercurial did "the right thing" and carried the inbound changes forward
  102. # [00:36] <gps> bz_dinner: you said within the past 2 weeks Mercurial didn't do the right thing here. perhaps you are running an old Mercurial release?
  103. # [00:37] <dholbert> gps, that has always done the right thing for me, IIUC
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  105. # [00:37] <dholbert> gps, I've been in that situation several times, though usually with s/modified in inbound/modified in an earlier patch/, and sometimes s/moves a file/copies a file/
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  108. # [00:38] <dholbert> gps, mercurial stores that type of change as "file rename" (which doesn't depend on contents), followed by "apply this unified diff" (which only depends on the contextual code)
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  110. # [00:39] <dholbert> so changes to the file shouldn't matter, unless they change it such that your changes no longer apply
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  112. # [00:39] <dholbert> '
  113. # [00:39] <gps> dholbert: lovely. hopefully people will stop the FUD against Mercurial
  114. # [00:40] <dholbert> *I suspect something more complex was going on in bz's use case (e.g. maybe the .rej file ended up in the wrong directory, or it moved the file but didn't apply the changes, or something)
  115. # [00:40] <gps> yeah. that could be it. mq not using hte internal merge resolve mechansim is kinda crappy
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  117. # [00:44] <mbrubeck> Yeah, you'd think mq could use the "Parent" changeset id in the patch file to do a 3-way merge.
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  123. # [00:44] <glandium> dholbert: and that's kind of a bummer, when you remove a file
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  125. # [00:45] <glandium> case in point: you have a patch that remove a file because you're just removing every line from it ; inbound added lines to that file. you now are deleting those without knowing
  126. # [00:45] <mbrubeck> argh, still getting trolled by http://twitter.com/dolske avatar
  127. # [00:45] <@dolske> yesssss
  128. # [00:45] <glandium> and yes, this happened recently
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  130. # [00:47] <dholbert> glandium, removing every line from a file vs. removing a file are two different things
  131. # [00:47] <@dbaron> gps, so mercurial does the right thing there as long as your patch queue stores the patch as git-style diff
  132. # [00:47] <dholbert> glandium, I think it probably makes sense that file-removes merge nicely even if the file changes out from under you
  133. # [00:47] <Mook_as> mbrubeck: how would the parent changeset id there work if it's the second patch in the queue, while trying to push in qpop -a && pull -u && qpush -a? that parent changeset wouldn't exist in the repo...
  134. # [00:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85811665eed7 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 917988 - Sphinx managed build system documentation; add mach build-docs; r=bsmedberg
  135. # [00:47] <@dbaron> gps, in early version of mercurial you had to actually *configure it to do that*
  136. # [00:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c678ea1db9c9 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 794506 - Part 1: Move virtualenv code under mozbuild; r=ted
  137. # [00:48] <@dbaron> gps, but now I think it does git style diffs by default for changes that require them
  138. # [00:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/392068d519fb - Gregory Szorc - Bug 794506 - Part 2: Add virtualenv APIs; r=ted
  139. # [00:48] <glandium> dholbert: i think it hurts that it does so without telling you "hey, just in case, you should know the file changed"
  140. # [00:48] <gps> dbaron: run |mach mercurial-setup| - it will verify your patch settings are sane
  141. # [00:48] <@dbaron> $ mach
  142. # [00:48] <@dbaron> The program 'mach' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
  143. # [00:49] <gps> cp ./mach ~/bin
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  146. # [00:49] <grobinson> gps: or add mozilla-central to your $PATH
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  148. # [00:49] <@dbaron> gps, my mercurial settings are fine, anyway
  149. # [00:49] <gps> dbaron: you sure? run that command and see if it produces a diff :)
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  151. # [00:50] <@dbaron> gps, where do I read what that command does before I run it?
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  153. # [00:50] <gps> dbaron: it doesn't do anything without prompting
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  157. # [00:52] <grobinson> Is there any way to set prefs by passing an argument to mach mochitest-plain?
  158. # [00:52] <gps> grobinson: what does |mach help mochitest-plain| say?
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  162. # [00:53] <grobinson> gps: doesn't mention it
  163. # [00:54] <dholbert> grobinson, you can set prefs in a single mochitest if you need to, or you can set a pref for all mochitests in testing/profiles/prefs_general.js . (Why do you want to set a pref just for this run?)
  164. # [00:55] <grobinson> dholbert: thanks! testing some things in e10s :)
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  166. # [00:55] <dholbert> grobinson, gotcha
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  193. # [01:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/265b3d9cf201 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 76f9cced8105 (bug 902715) for build bustage on at least Windows on a CLOSED TREE
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  210. # [01:20] <seth_> sigh
  211. # [01:20] <seth_> sometimes rtti is just the right tool for the job =(
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  214. # [01:23] <NeilAway> dholbert: that bit me once when I wanted to fork the version of a file that existed at an old revision. I could fork the file, and commit the fork, but then when I merged to tip Mercurial wanted to update the fork to match the changes in the original file
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  219. # [01:24] <tbsaunde> seth_: are you really in a case where doing it manually won't be more efficient?
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  222. # [01:25] <seth_> tbsaunde: when you really need it, how exactly can you possibly implement it more efficiently than the built-in feature?
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  224. # [01:26] <seth_> tbsaunde: it's a vtable lookup either way, but without using the builtin feature you have to additionally worry about making sure that every "id" you return is globally unique, which the compiler would otherwise handle for you
  225. # [01:27] <NeilAway> seth_: why do you need it to be globally unique?
  226. # [01:27] <tbsaunde> seth_: I'd think you only need it to be unique amoung the things in htat inheritance tree
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  228. # [01:27] <seth_> tbsaunde: i suppose you can store an id in a field on the superclass, though. that'd at least perhaps give you better locality
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  230. # [01:28] <tbsaunde> seth_: super class field is generally what I've seen and often seems to be a good thing to have for other purposes
  231. # [01:29] <tbsaunde> member also saves you a second load
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  236. # [01:30] <tbsaunde> and if you care about space more enum and virtual function seems pretty easy
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  238. # [01:30] <@roc> seth_: declare a static uint8_t field in the class and use its address as your unique id?
  239. # [01:30] <seth_> doesn't matter that it's restricted to the universe of things in that particular inheritance tree or not. a superclass should not have to know all the possible types of its subclasses
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  241. # [01:30] <seth_> tbsaunde: all of this solves the same problem as type_id anyway, not dynamic_cast, although type_id is often enough
  242. # [01:31] <tbsaunde> well, the super class doesn't need to know if you have typed enums, though you need a list somewhere
  243. # [01:32] <tbsaunde> dynamic_cast pretty trivially reduces to type_id afaik
  244. # [01:32] <seth_> roc: yeah, that's not bad, though the need of a virtual call to retrieve the address of that field reproduces the cost of type_id
  245. # [01:33] <tbsaunde> roc: that's cute but I don't think I've seen that trick before
  246. # [01:33] <seth_> tbsaunde: having a list somewhere is the problem. that's not OO.
  247. # [01:33] <@roc> we use it in a few places in Gecko
  248. # [01:34] <seth_> dynamic_cast doesn't reduce to type_id, i don't see what you mean by that
  249. # [01:34] <tbsaunde> seth_: meh, it works fairly well
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  252. # [01:34] <tbsaunde> when does't it?
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  254. # [01:35] <seth_> tbsaunde: it adds coupling and its a maintenance burden. i agree that it is often good enough, though
  255. # [01:36] <seth_> tbsaunde: any time inheritance is involved. type_id only gives you the most derived class. dynamic_cast can be used to cast to any class in the inheritance tree, handling things like multiple inheritance and virtual inheritance
  256. # [01:36] <@roc> yes, it would be helpful if C++ had some sort of virtual const field that let you read data directly from the vtable
  257. # [01:36] <seth_> roc: that'd be a very helpful feature sometimes
  258. # [01:36] <tbsaunde> seth_: so basically the cases you've already done it wrong? ;)
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  260. # [01:37] <seth_> tbsaunde: heh i suppose
  261. # [01:37] <tbsaunde> but given you can generally do better than rtti and in the worst case reimplement it fairly easily I'd say its not worth having in the language
  262. # [01:38] <seth_> tbsaunde: no.
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  264. # [01:38] <seth_> tbsaunde: how do you propose to use your global enum solution in library code when the possible universe of subclasses isn't closed?
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  268. # [01:39] <tbsaunde> seth_: the library can't downcast to anything outside of the library anyway
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  272. # [01:41] <seth_> tbsaunde: so what? consider Java's virtual Object.Equals. implementing such a thing is impossible without rtti. you need to be able to check whether the other object has the same dynamic type as you
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  274. # [01:42] <seth_> otherwise it breaks in all sorts of subtle ways
  275. # [01:42] <tbsaunde> I'd probably tell you you don't actually want that
  276. # [01:43] <tbsaunde> because you don't want every class to have a vtable, and a global object class is probably a poor idea
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  289. # [01:54] <tessarakt2> seth_: "inheritance dac"
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  291. # [01:57] <seth_> tessarakt2: dac?
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  293. # [01:58] <tessarakt2> directed acyclic graph
  294. # [01:58] <shu> digital analog converter?
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  296. # [01:58] <seth_> ah, dag
  297. # [01:58] <tessarakt2> aaah
  298. # [01:59] <tessarakt2> didn't even notice ...
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  300. # [01:59] <tessarakt2> phonetic misspelling of acronyms is evil ...
  301. # [01:59] <seth_> heh, yeah, one letter makes a big difference =)
  302. # [02:00] <Jesse> directed acyclic cycle
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  304. # [02:01] <mbrubeck> directed cyclic acyclic cyclic acyclic cyclic acyclic...
  305. # [02:01] <mbrubeck> okay, I think it is mfbt
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  338. # [02:35] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: ping
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  342. # [02:39] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: pong
  343. # [02:40] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: want to be the one to tell me to back out 913807 because of intermittent failures it caused 12+ hours after landing? :)
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  348. # [02:41] <KWierso|sheriffduty> (the android xpcshell orange on jarmstrong's push)
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  353. # [02:43] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: no, no I don't
  354. # [02:43] <philor> I could tell you some things about Android, and Android in our testing infra, though, if you'd like?
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  356. # [02:45] <philor> wow, androidx86 hit an actual normal test failure rather than spinning wildly out of control and crashing in the weeds with a broken stack, that's unusual
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  358. # [02:46] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: so what to do with that new orange?
  359. # [02:47] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: same thing as the others, would be my advice
  360. # [02:48] <philor> file it, ignore it, either one works for me
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  427. # [03:51] <glandium> is it just me or service-now is just more painful to use than bugzilla?
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  430. # [03:53] <@dolske> your review will ship in 5-7 days.
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  438. # [03:57] <@bz> glandium: it's not just you
  439. # [03:57] <@bz> glandium: for one thing, its mails are unreadable
  440. # [03:58] <glandium> what am i supposed to do when what i've been given doesn't work? I can't reopen the request, and comments are left unanswered
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  442. # [03:58] <@bz> glandium: I'd mail my manager and ask him to deal, is what I'd do. :(
  443. # [03:59] <glandium> man, how hard does it have to be to get a working product key for one of the isos available on fs?
  444. # [04:00] <glandium> for windows xp, at that
  445. # [04:00] <glandium> i don't even understand why it has to involve people
  446. # [04:00] <glandium> and why the key is not simply next to the iso
  447. # [04:00] <glandium> with the same name, because there are so many
  448. # [04:01] <glandium> 4 isos tried so far, none work with the product key i was given
  449. # [04:02] <@bz> :(
  450. # [04:03] <glandium> seriously
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  460. # [04:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/106683fcfda4 - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 1 gaia-central revision(s) a=NPOTB
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  462. # [04:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1e33678f89fe - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to b2g-inbound.
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  474. # [04:19] <glandium> 6th time's the charm
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  480. # [04:28] <dmajor> efaust: Waldo: looks like it wasn't optimization. I'll dig more on Monday
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  484. # [04:30] <Waldo> hmm
  485. # [04:30] <Waldo> flat-out bug maybe, then
  486. # [04:30] <Waldo> or some other UB gremlin spilling over into those symptoms
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  614. # [06:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/81b30f8c376e - Jim Blandy - Bug 916845: Use size_t to describe length of source code in SpiderMonkey SourceHook lazy source hook. r=jorendorff
  615. # [06:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/989cc9b220c2 - Jim Blandy - Bug 916845: Change sourceHook to a nice C++ object with a destructor. r=jorendorff
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  619. # [06:51] <mjrosenb> hrmm, I am confused. why would hg diff -r foo (where foo is a mq commit) not show any differences?
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  633. # [07:26] <sfink> mjrosenb: because it's on top of your stack?
  634. # [07:27] <sfink> I think |hg diff -r| is giving you the difference between after that patch is applied to your current directory state
  635. # [07:27] <sfink> |hg diff -c foo| or |hg export foo| would show you the patch
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  806. # [10:43] <gaston> hmmm one cant _uninstall_ the default ebay/yahoo/twitter search engines on mobile ffx ?
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  811. # [10:44] <Archaeopteryx> can someones please ban sancus?
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  833. # [10:48] <Archaeopteryx> gaston: there is at least the ui text for removing/deactivating search engines except the last one on mozilla-aurora, but it doesn't seem to be in use
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  836. # [10:48] <gaston> i can deactivat ethem for sure, but not remove them :)
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  844. # [10:50] <Archaeopteryx> deactivate? don't have ui for that on latest aurora
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  847. # [10:51] <gaston> hmmm i do here on aurora from one or two days ago
  848. # [10:51] <gaston> just deactivated them right now
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  856. # [10:52] <gaston> in about:addons in can long-touch a search engine and deactivate/activate it
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  861. # [10:52] <gaston> built from aurora/f70b04dc58f4
  862. # [10:53] <Archaeopteryx> i don't see any search engines there
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  865. # [10:53] <gaston> let me update'em all :) maybe i'm still on the previous train
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  868. # [10:54] <Archaeopteryx> gaston: aurora shouldn't have got updates this week after the version bump
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  871. # [10:54] <gaston> i had a pending update, the rev it was built from was 25.0a2
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  876. # [10:55] <Archaeopteryx> 26.0a2 2013-09-20 here, downloaded from the ftp
  877. # [10:55] <gaston> ok on 26.0a2 i indeed dont see the search engines in about:addons
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  882. # [10:56] <gaston> and all of them are back when typing in the url bar :(
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  885. # [10:57] <gaston> ah but i can see them in the prefs now... but cant uninstall/disable them
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  899. # [10:59] <gaston> same in nightly, in the default installed search engines i can only set one by default, not remove it
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  1449. # [12:55] <decoder> anyone seen that before?
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  1753. # [14:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f6ccca77bbd - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 898349 - Correct indentation nits r=jandem
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  1815. # [14:14] <decoder> glandium: ping? i got some clang tip build errors on inbound
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  1818. # [14:15] <decoder> i worked around one, but the second one looks too complex for my little mind
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  1821. # [14:15] <decoder> glandium: (and others): https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3112456
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  2058. # [15:04] <@smaug> oh, about sancus ?
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  2088. # [15:10] <@NeilAway> smaug: ta
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  2216. # [17:32] <Jesse> jesup: pong
  2217. # [17:32] <jesup> Jesse: try the patch from bug 917419 on that bug
  2218. # [17:32] <Jesse> i don't see a patch
  2219. # [17:32] <jesup> Sorry bug 917491
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  2251. # [18:10] <philor> hmm
  2252. # [18:11] <philor> not only did hurley bust Android, his try run, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=d167cfc53568, shows the bustage, starred as a bug to which I don't have access
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  2254. # [18:12] <philor> oh, just transposed from a bug which was not it
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  2267. # [18:29] <jcranmer|away> er
  2268. # [18:30] <jcranmer|away> smaugpong
  2269. # [18:30] <jcranmer|away> smferris: : pong
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  2272. # [18:30] <jcranmer|away> smaug isn't here
  2273. # [18:30] <jcranmer|away> oh
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  2387. # [20:36] <mwargers> when I do "hg", I now get this error: -bash: /usr/local/bin/hg: /usr/bin/python: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
  2388. # [20:37] <mwargers> how can I fix this?
  2389. # [20:38] <WG9s> mwargers: chack to see if there actually is a /usr/bin/python
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  2391. # [20:40] <WG9s> If not and you have python installed elsewhere then crate a symlink to it in /usr/bin
  2392. # [20:40] <mwargers> WG9s: no, there isn't, "which python" returns "/usr/local/bin/python"
  2393. # [20:41] <WG9s> OK so ln -s /usr/local/vin/python /usr/bin/
  2394. # [20:41] <WG9s> would prbably sorkaraound this error.
  2395. # [20:41] <WG9s> well sudo'd of course
  2396. # [20:42] <WG9s> and raplcing my /vin/ typo with /bin/
  2397. # [20:42] <mwargers> WG9s: I get "ln: /usr/bin//python: File exists"
  2398. # [20:42] <WG9s> then i would logout and log back in
  2399. # [20:42] <WG9s> adn redo the which
  2400. # [20:44] <WG9s> but if there is a /usr/bin/python and your username has execute rights then i don't understand why you would get the original message.
  2401. # [20:44] <mwargers> WG9s: log out of MacOSX?
  2402. # [20:44] <WG9s> amybe if you instlled somethin while logged in might need to get your loging envionment to recognize the change.
  2403. # [20:44] <WG9s> loginin/logout is the simplest way.
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  2405. # [20:45] <WG9s> logout/login
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  2419. # [21:26] <jcranmer> who here understands ACE/IDN?
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  2423. # [21:35] <jcranmer> ah fuck
  2424. # [21:36] <jcranmer> why must IDNA be so complicated :-/
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  2426. # [21:40] <WG9s> for the same resaon many said it was a bad idea in the first place.
  2427. # [21:41] <jcranmer> I think I need to send off an email to the maintainer of IDNA in Firefox
  2428. # [21:42] <jcranmer> since I'm not clear what I'm supposed to be doing for EAI here wrt i18n'd domain names
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  2430. # [21:43] <WG9s> But that said. I also understand that the original dns design was kind of latin language centric
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  2432. # [21:43] <jcranmer> maybe I should see if EAI specifies what to do, but considering that RFC 822 and friends don't say if the local-part is supposed to be case-insensitive, I'm not looking forward to finding out
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  2434. # [21:47] <WG9s> everything in dns is uspposed to be case insinsitive.
  2435. # [21:48] <WG9s> this is not an idna issue
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  2438. # [21:48] <WG9s> local host files are always case sensitive. dns is always case insensitive. isn't that really inconsistent?
  2439. # [21:49] <WG9s> O fcourse windows makes things supposedly case sensitive case insensitive so all bets are off for that operating system.
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  2474. # [22:18] <bjacob> who knows the IPDL->header generator?
  2475. # [22:19] <jcranmer> I think it was originally written by cjones
  2476. # [22:19] <bjacob> who would be currently maintaining it? /me looks at hg log
  2477. # [22:19] <jcranmer> WG9s: well, the question is where do you apply case sensitivity when IDN is applied?
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  2480. # [22:21] <bjacob> jcranmer: looks like it's been most recently touched by froydnj|afk and reviewed by ehsan
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  2482. # [22:22] <jcranmer> I'm recalling modifications in 2009 :-)
  2483. # [22:22] <WG9s> good question I know DNS is case insensitive, but that should be handled when you do the DNS query I think igf a compare is done at the app levelthat is probably case sensitive (hence the DNS is case inseitive yet hosts file is case sensitive nonsense.
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  2486. # [22:22] <jcranmer> WG9s: I've been looking at the answer for IDNA2003 and IDNA2008, and the answer is different for the two
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  2488. # [22:23] <jcranmer> UST#46 seems to imply that some sort of case-folding should be applied locally according to the current locale before ACE-encoding?
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  2490. # [22:23] <jcranmer> but it also discusses it as a "transitional option"
  2491. # [22:24] <jcranmer> and asks registrars to basically co-register all forms of the encoding simultaneously
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  2553. # [23:17] <froydnj|afk> bjacob: does mfbt/Scoped.h not do what you want for AutoPtr?
  2554. # [23:18] <froydnj|afk> bjacob: I also don't think anybody would object to you untangling nsAutoPtr.h from cycle collection
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  2556. # [23:21] <firebot> Check-in:
  2557. # [23:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9bd43aa9a018 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 919129. Fix nsLayoutUtils::UpdateImageVisibilityForFrame so that it doesn't expand the image rect so much by replacing it with the scroll port rect. r=matspal
  2558. # [23:21] <bjacob> froydnj|afk: i didn't know about Scoped.h
  2559. # [23:21] <bjacob> and yes, taking nsAutoPtr out of the big header defining also nsRefPtr would be a worthy task
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  2562. # [23:22] <froydnj|afk> bjacob: I don't know that Scoped.h has the cleverness that your AutoPtr does
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  2564. # [23:24] <bjacob> froydnj|afk: AutoPtr has almost no cleverness
  2565. # [23:26] <bjacob> froydnj|afk: the only issue with Scoped is it doesnt have a unit test
  2566. # [23:26] <bjacob> aside from that, it does all i need and more
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  2572. # [23:31] <froydnj|afk> patches welcome! :)
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  2582. # [23:38] <reuben> dougt: ping
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