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  47. # [00:54] <@njn> window.QueryInterface(Components.interfaces.nsIInterfaceRequestor).
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  51. # [00:54] <@njn> ?
  52. # [00:56] <@njn> or about:cc, or about:ccdump
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  71. # [01:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d72b3d939bbc - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 579517 follow-up: Remove NSPR types that crept in
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  83. # [01:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aee35ffedb61 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 919325 - Minimize the #includes in content/ IDL files; r=bzbarsky
  84. # [01:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/69da3bab9fac - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 919330 - Minimize the #includes in docshell/ IDL files; r=bzbarsky
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  121. # [02:24] <qDot> Hmm. Is there any way to request perms for mozTCPSocket on desktop, or is it locked to webapps only?
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  137. # [02:49] <@ted> qDot: i thought someone had instructions for how to do that, for running gaia apps
  138. # [02:50] <@ted> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS/Using_Gaia_in_Firefox
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  142. # [02:51] <qDot> ted: I'm betting we do something when generating the profile for gaia for that, though.
  143. # [02:51] <qDot> Which I suppose I could do for the time being, but it's not really a "request permission on content load" kinda deal like I was hoping for.
  144. # [02:51] <@ted> yeah
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  146. # [02:51] <@ted> it's definitely a permission in the profile
  147. # [02:52] <@ted> i saw instructions for doing it manually somewhere, can't remember
  148. # [02:52] <qDot> Because apparently that would cause "security issues" or some such.
  149. # [02:52] <qDot> ted: I'll ask in #gaia when people are awake.
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  151. # [02:53] <@ted> https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/blob/ac0412abceae7344843c4053d4a782f0e462fb8b/apps/calendar/README.md
  152. # [02:53] <@ted> ah yeah
  153. # [02:53] <qDot> Oh, nice.
  154. # [02:53] <@ted> qDot: it does sort of suck that we're adding non-web web APIs
  155. # [02:54] <qDot> ted: I would totally agree if I weren't one of the people doing that. :)
  156. # [02:54] <@ted> hah
  157. # [02:54] <@ted> i just don't know what our endgame is here
  158. # [02:54] <qDot> I think we're trying to balance time to market and standards, and time to market is winning.
  159. # [02:54] <@ted> do we expose this stuff on the web behind permissions dialogs?
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  161. # [02:55] <@ted> does seem a little scary to give random webapps mozTCPSocket
  162. # [02:55] <qDot> 'cause I remember when we started B2G, it was gonna be all standards all the time. Then carriers got involved and oops.
  163. # [02:55] <@ted> yeah
  164. # [02:55] <reuben> ted: no, only privileged web apps have access to tcpsocket
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  166. # [02:55] <qDot> ted: Yeah, you have to specify it in the app manifest.
  167. # [02:55] <@ted> reuben: right, so, that means we now have web apps, and things that are not really web apps
  168. # [02:56] <@ted> that doesn't seem great
  169. # [02:56] <reuben> well, what kind of permission system do you think would work better?
  170. # [02:56] <@ted> i don't know, it's just depressing
  171. # [02:57] <reuben> I think we all agree that making every WebAPI available to any web content with permission dialogs would be quite bad UX-wise
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  173. # [02:58] <reuben> but I do agree that we have a scary number of things that are only available to certified apps
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  179. # [03:02] <reuben> i.e. of all the 41 WebAPIs listed in the Permissions Matrix doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Akyz_Bqjgf5pdENVekxYRjBTX0dCXzItMnRyUU1RQ0E#gid=0
  180. # [03:02] <reuben> 24 are certified only
  181. # [03:02] <@ted> yikes
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  183. # [03:02] <reuben> 5 are privileged only with prompt
  184. # [03:02] <reuben> 5 privileged only no prompt
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  192. # [03:06] <reuben> also of note, installed (but not privileged) apps get access to alarms, audio policy, fmradio and storage
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  271. # [04:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b302af041108 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 750434 - Enable azure content on android. r=nrc
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  294. # [05:10] <philor> mattwoodrow: Windows wants to have a word with you
  295. # [05:11] <mattwoodrow> Doesn't it always :(
  296. # [05:11] <mattwoodrow> oh, boo, why is that file even being built on windows
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  299. # [05:12] <mattwoodrow> philor: I'll fix it
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  302. # [05:13] <philor> mattwoodrow: k, CLOSED TREE so people don't pile on
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  309. # [05:16] <philor> umm
  310. # [05:17] <mattwoodrow> philor: Looks like OSX Bg bustage too, but not mine
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  312. # [05:17] <Jesse> is the space before #include "nsMathUtils.h" going to cause trouble?
  313. # [05:17] <philor> mattwoodrow: yeah, I was just looking at that, and failing to notice it was b2g, and being baffled by what OS X was doing inside an #if defined(MOZ_B2G)
  314. # [05:18] <mattwoodrow> Jesse: I don't think so, but well spotted
  315. # [05:19] <philor> looks like he probably meant #ifdef MOZ_WIDGET_GONK
  316. # [05:19] <mattwoodrow> I'll fix it to be sure
  317. # [05:20] <philor> but I'll just back him out and let him decide what he meant :)
  318. # [05:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61ee1063e5af - Matt Woodrow - Bug 750434 - Fix space before #include. CLOSED TREE
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  323. # [05:26] <cabanier> has anyone seen: 'mp-clang-3.2' for 'clang' failed: The specified group 'clang' does not exist."
  324. # [05:26] <cabanier> during setup for mac?
  325. # [05:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1899a7985ef - Anthony Jones - Bug 918138 - Move Borrowed*Context to a separate header file; r=mattwoodrow
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  338. # [05:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/16047b24df6a - Kyle Huey - Bug 914014: Use WrapObject to wrap nsIExceptions rather than manual XPConnect gunk. r=bz
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  342. # [05:48] <@khuey> did we really go multiple days without a CLOBBER?
  343. # [05:49] <@khuey> wow, over a week
  344. # [05:49] <@khuey> what is going on
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  355. # [06:01] <aja> heycam: g'day. tested your details/summary try build a bit. ping me when you have a few minutes free to discuss.
  356. # [06:02] <heycam> aja, hi, now's ok
  357. # [06:03] <aja> heycam: didn't dig far into accessibility (which is probably more for the followup bug)
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  359. # [06:03] <heycam> yeah, I haven't looked into getting the accessibility mapping right yet
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  363. # [06:04] <aja> heycam: but found one pretty basic issue. summary should be initially keyboard focusable....IOW, just like with V4
  364. # [06:05] <heycam> aja, oh, is it not? maybe I lost something in the rebasing
  365. # [06:07] <aja> heycam: via mouse, everythings fine. "enter" toggles details on/off just fine, too...just can't get to the summary via keyboard unless it contains a link...and then it's just the link portion that's focusable
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  368. # [06:08] <aja> don't thin it was lost in rebase....v4 worked same way, iirc
  369. # [06:08] <aja> think*
  370. # [06:08] <heycam> aja, oh ok. I'll look into it.
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  374. # [06:11] <aja> heycam: works a bit different than chrome implementation, too. details is getting 40px indent on yours, not on chrome. they only indent summary. think yours is correct though, but not positive
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  376. # [06:11] <heycam> aja, I think I followed the UA style sheet that's in the HTML spec
  377. # [06:11] <aja> looks nicer anyway
  378. # [06:14] <aja> oh yeah....when summary focused, they also have focus ring around the arrows rather than just the text
  379. # [06:15] <aja> i.e. arrow and text, vs only text
  380. # [06:15] <qDot> ted: Hey! Calendar xhr hack did work for tcp-socket perms on desktop! Thanks!
  381. # [06:15] <aja> dunno if spec says anything either way on that
  382. # [06:16] <heycam> aja, don't think it does. but since the summary element itself is what has focus, I think it makes sense to put the focus ring around the entire thing. and especially since the whole element can be clicked, not just the disclosure widget.
  383. # [06:17] <aja> heycam: yep, agree. kinda like a label on an input
  384. # [06:17] <aja> sorta
  385. # [06:18] <heycam> yeah
  386. # [06:18] <aja> heycam: that's pretty much all i've noticed so far
  387. # [06:19] <heycam> aja, thanks for giving feedback as I go :)
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  392. # [06:20] <monu> Hey guys
  393. # [06:20] <aja> heycam: np. as long as it's appreciated, and not just being annoying/unhelpful
  394. # [06:20] <monu> just a quick question, Is it possible to integrate Gecko engine in an Android app ?
  395. # [06:21] <aja> heycam: just say so if the latter becomes the case
  396. # [06:23] <aja> monu: can it just be a web app?
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  398. # [06:24] <monu> Yes it is a webApp built using HTML5
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  400. # [06:25] <aja> then no need to integrate Gecko
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  403. # [06:25] <monu> cross browser issues made me think, If we could integrate Gecko into our App and save developing for older android browsers.
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  409. # [06:27] <aja> monu: thought about same for a project...then considered how long that integration might take, and figured those old phone OS'es might be history by then anyway
  410. # [06:28] <aja> um....told myself "KISS"
  411. # [06:29] <monu> thanks @aja, "KISS" .. ahh one of my fav principles :)
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  476. # [08:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b075021285f - Steve Fink - Bug 916988 - AutoCompartment constructor leads to too many false positives, r=terrence
  477. # [08:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ec5c70efd2e - Steve Fink - Bug 916988 - Minor variable rename in rooting analysis, r=woof!
  478. # [08:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e6e24a63ca36 - Steve Fink - Bug 916988 - Treat mozilla::dom::Rooted* as a rooted type, r=terrence
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  523. # [08:53] <gaston> darn ehsan is not around
  524. # [08:53] <gaston> nor ms2ger
  525. # [08:54] <nigelb> ms2ger should wake up around now-ish.
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  527. # [08:55] <@khuey> is Ms2ger back from his vacation?
  528. # [08:55] <nigelb> Ms2ger takes vacations?
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  530. # [08:57] <@khuey> speak of the devil
  531. # [08:58] <Ms2ger> Yo
  532. # [09:00] <nigelb> Hah
  533. # [09:00] <@khuey> gaston: ^
  534. # [09:00] <nigelb> that is getting qdb'd
  535. # [09:01] <gaston> Ms2ger: hi, can you steal ehsan's r? on 919111 ?
  536. # [09:02] <Ms2ger> After I finish reading email? Only 1300 left :)
  537. # [09:02] <gaston> so you were really in vacations :)
  538. # [09:03] <Ms2ger> Yep
  539. # [09:03] <gaston> oh well, anyone feeling to steal a onliner #include fix for *bsd can steal that review ? :)
  540. # [09:03] <Ms2ger> With a short break to say hi to dbaron
  541. # [09:04] <@dbaron> and others in the CSSWG
  542. # [09:04] <@dbaron> anyway, bedtime
  543. # [09:04] <@khuey> more people have met ms2ger now?
  544. # [09:04] <@khuey> cool
  545. # [09:04] <nigelb> I'm hoping to meet him in 2 weeks.
  546. # [09:04] <nigelb> Ms2ger: Aren't you going to be in Santa Clara?
  547. # [09:04] <Ms2ger> No, Brussels
  548. # [09:04] <nigelb> Dang :(
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  580. # [09:49] <ferjm> hi! where should I be looking to know when an object is being GCed? (like adding a debug statement somewhere in the code)
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  587. # [09:51] <@khuey> ferjm: a JS object or a C++ object?
  588. # [09:52] <ferjm> khuey, JS object
  589. # [09:52] <@khuey> ah that's hard :-/
  590. # [09:52] <ferjm> :(
  591. # [09:53] <@khuey> in an actual debugger you could just set a data breakpoint on the address of the object
  592. # [09:53] <@khuey> but some sort of printf this is hard
  593. # [09:53] <@khuey> since GC isn't observable
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  598. # [09:56] <ferjm> khuey, ok, I'll try the data breakpoint option then. Thanks
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  602. # [09:59] <glazou> bonjour
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  636. # [10:25] <ferjm> khuey, ping
  637. # [10:26] <@khuey> ferjm: reading the bug
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  639. # [10:26] <ferjm> khuey, ok cool, thanks
  640. # [10:28] <@khuey> ferjm: this is on trunk?
  641. # [10:28] <ferjm> khuey, yes, m-i
  642. # [10:29] <@khuey> ok
  643. # [10:29] <@khuey> so your listener has definitely been GCd
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  646. # [10:30] <@khuey> ferjm: are you familiar with Webapps.js?
  647. # [10:30] <ferjm> khuey, yes
  648. # [10:31] <ferjm> khuey, have you checked the Gaia side. I guess the listener in this case is the mozApps object, right?
  649. # [10:31] <@khuey> ferjm: is a WebAppsRegistry what mozApps.getSelf() returns?
  650. # [10:31] <@khuey> no I haven't looked at gaia yet
  651. # [10:31] <@khuey> is gaia relevant here?
  652. # [10:32] <ferjm> khuey, no, it returns a mozIDOMApplication
  653. # [10:33] <ferjm> khuey, I'm not sure. I am adding a global var to mozApps, I don't really understand why it is being GC'ed
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  655. # [10:33] <@khuey> oh, no, it returns a DOMRequest
  656. # [10:33] <@khuey> that makes much more sense
  657. # [10:33] <@khuey> ok
  658. # [10:34] <ferjm> khuey, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3126787
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  660. # [10:34] <ferjm> khuey, oh, yes, sorry, it returns a DOMRequest and the result of that DOMRequest should be a mozIDOMApplication
  661. # [10:34] <@khuey> ok
  662. # [10:34] <@khuey> ferjm: that pastebin is just what's in the zip, right?
  663. # [10:34] <ferjm> khuey, I thought you were referring to the "final" return result
  664. # [10:34] <@khuey> no, sorry for the confusion
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  666. # [10:35] <ferjm> khuey, yes, apart from the index.html and the manifest of the app
  667. # [10:35] <@khuey> ok
  668. # [10:35] <ferjm> I'll paste bin that also
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  670. # [10:35] <@khuey> I opened the zip
  671. # [10:35] <@khuey> just wanted to make sure I didn't need to read closely this time ;-)
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  674. # [10:36] <@khuey> ferjm: so the WebappsRegistry is what's registering as an observer, right?
  675. # [10:36] <ferjm> khuey, yes
  676. # [10:36] <@khuey> and your global variable here is the var mozApps = blah from the app, right?
  677. # [10:37] <ferjm> yes
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  679. # [10:37] <@khuey> ok
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  685. # [10:40] <@khuey> ferjm: are you testing this on a debug or opt build?
  686. # [10:41] <ferjm> khuey, opt build. I can make a debug build if needed
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  688. # [10:41] <@khuey> I don't think you need to, was just wondering if we're running these assertions
  689. # [10:41] <@khuey> in AddWeakMessageListener
  690. # [10:43] <@khuey> ferjm: oh
  691. # [10:43] <@khuey> ferjm: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsFrameMessageManager.cpp#762
  692. # [10:43] <@khuey> is trying to QI to nsIMessageListener
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  694. # [10:43] <@khuey> ferjm: but WebappsRegistry's QI doesn't have nsIMessageListener in it (unless I'm missing something)
  695. # [10:44] <@khuey> ferjm: and this works with the strong listener because XPConnect will do an implicit conversion but the explicit QI will fail
  696. # [10:44] <@khuey> so try that and see what happens
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  698. # [10:45] <ferjm> khuey, oh, so any object adding weak listeners declaring its own QI should have nsIMessageListener?
  699. # [10:45] * ferjm trying that
  700. # [10:45] <@khuey> ferjm: I think so
  701. # [10:45] <ferjm> ok, thanks
  702. # [10:45] <@khuey> ferjm: and it probably needs to declare its own QI if it doesn't already
  703. # [10:46] <@khuey> ferjm: let me know whether or not that fixes it
  704. # [10:46] <ferjm> khuey, sure, thanks
  705. # [10:46] <@khuey> ferjm: if it does, I want to morph your bug to detect and handle this case
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  714. # [10:56] <ferjm> khuey, it works! \o/ So about morphing the bug to detect this case, I think no object is directly adding weak listeners. All the weak listeners are being added via DOMRequestHelper so far and I think it might be working for these listeners because of the DOMRequestIpcHelperMessageListener object added in bug 889984. However, I have another bug related to this, which should remove DOMRequestIpcHelperMessageListener and directly use |addWeakM
  715. # [10:56] <ferjm> essageListener| (bug 915598)
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  717. # [10:56] <@khuey> that's plausible, yes
  718. # [10:57] <@khuey> ferjm: I think AddWeakMessageListener should just try to QI to nsIMessageListener and if that fails, throw an error
  719. # [10:57] <@khuey> that way we fail fast
  720. # [10:57] <@khuey> and non-mysteriously
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  722. # [10:58] <ferjm> khuey, ok, I can do that in bug 919429
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  727. # [11:01] <@khuey> ferjm: great
  728. # [11:01] <@khuey> ferjm: happy to review ;-)
  729. # [11:01] <ferjm> khuey, cool. Thanks for your help :)
  730. # [11:01] <@khuey> sure np
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  735. # [11:06] <ferjm> khuey, I can't see how, but could this also be the reason for bug 915220?
  736. # [11:07] <ferjm> khuey, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=915220#c17 mentions "some additional top level work in XPCOMUtils_QueryInterface()"
  737. # [11:09] <@khuey> ferjm: maybe ... though if that's the case I would expect it to be something quite bizarre
  738. # [11:09] <@khuey> seems unlikely certainly
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  743. # [11:12] <decoder> markh: ping :)
  744. # [11:13] <markh> decoder: looking at it now :)
  745. # [11:13] <decoder> markh: cool thx :)
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  748. # [11:13] <decoder> Tomcat|sheriffduty: im not entirely sure if that bug is the only reason for orange, but we'll see soon
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  750. # [11:13] <markh> decoder: I've got some try runs going, and it looks like the problem isn't as simple as the missing crashreporter (ie, the test isn't seeing the crash itself, regardless of minidumps), but I think that's good for now
  751. # [11:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> decoder: ok cool
  752. # [11:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> decoder: will monitor the tree
  753. # [11:14] <decoder> markh: ah ok. so you think your patch is broken in general in some cases?
  754. # [11:14] <markh> the other orange is the need for a simple setLongerTimeout()
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  756. # [11:14] <decoder> hmm ok
  757. # [11:14] <markh> decoder: no, I suspect it's some edge-case interation with e10s child process and asan
  758. # [11:15] <decoder> oh ok. in asan you wont crash at all btw. the process will exit
  759. # [11:15] <decoder> but not with a signal
  760. # [11:15] <decoder> in case thats somehow relevant
  761. # [11:15] <markh> so maybe a broader issue we simply aren't seeing, I've got a few try runs to hopefully tell me more
  762. # [11:15] <markh> yes, it porbably is
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  764. # [11:15] <markh> the parent process isn't getting notified of the "crash"
  765. # [11:15] <decoder> markh: is any of these tests memory-intensive?
  766. # [11:15] <markh> (which then sends an event and observer notifiction which we don't see)
  767. # [11:16] <markh> not particularly, although they all use e10s child processes
  768. # [11:16] <decoder> hmm okay. it's unfortunate that we cannot easily monitor total memory usage while a test is running
  769. # [11:16] <decoder> one problem I had with asan + mochitests is, that under asan, tests consume more memory
  770. # [11:16] <decoder> so if a test is already memory-heavy, it can lead to swapping
  771. # [11:17] <decoder> which then manifests as timing out
  772. # [11:17] <markh> I see what looks like an ASan error in the logs - lemme find it
  773. # [11:17] <decoder> but increasing the timeout isnt the right choice in that case
  774. # [11:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48a7f81ed363 - Christian Holler - Bug 919438 - Disable thumbnails test in non-crashreporter builds. r=markh
  775. # [11:19] <markh> that other one certainly is a "simple" timeout, I'm pretty sure
  776. # [11:19] <markh> it does alot
  777. # [11:19] <markh> the logs indicate it's progressing fine, just slowly
  778. # [11:19] <markh> (and given mochi doesn't really "kill" the tests, you can see it continue after the next text has started - just fail due to a lack of "ok", "is", etc :)
  779. # [11:20] <Jesse> decoder++
  780. # [11:21] <markh> decoder: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/3127016 has looked good on all the try runs I've been doing - only that "_crash" one remained
  781. # [11:21] <markh> which I could probably do re=me on, but if someone else wants to be brave... ;)
  782. # [11:21] <markh> *r=me
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  786. # [11:22] <decoder> markh: the same symptoms would also appear if the machine would be swapping at the same time, thats what I mean
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  788. # [11:22] <decoder> it's hard to tell if it's timing out because it's slower under asan, or because the machine is swapping due to memory problems
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  790. # [11:23] <decoder> markh: but ok, lets go for the longer timeout
  791. # [11:23] <decoder> if that works fine and doesnt increase the test run endlessly
  792. # [11:23] <decoder> :D
  793. # [11:23] <decoder> markh: I can put it up and you r= it ;)
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  796. # [11:26] <decoder> markh: shall I do that?
  797. # [11:27] <markh> sorry, back, yes please :)
  798. # [11:27] <markh> decoder: ^
  799. # [11:27] <decoder> okay, one sec
  800. # [11:28] <markh> I'm not sure either, but TBH I'm not sure how that matters in practice?
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  804. # [11:30] <decoder> markh: it's up :)
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  806. # [11:30] <decoder> markh: what, the review process in this case? :)
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  808. # [11:31] <markh> no, the diff between swapping and "just slower under asan"?
  809. # [11:31] <markh> decoder: thanks! Gotta go eat dinner, but will check back later.
  810. # [11:32] <decoder> markh: slower under asan is just a factor of ~2.. or comparable to debug builds
  811. # [11:33] <decoder> but swapping is really heavily slow.. the machine will be at its limits and it could lead to very long try runs or random intermittent failures
  812. # [11:33] <decoder> okay :)
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  817. # [11:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f083bb8085a3 - Christian Holler - Bug 915384 - use a longer timeout for browser_thumbnails_background. r=markh
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  819. # [11:37] <decoder> Tomcat|sheriffduty: these two together should take care of the problems.. hopefully
  820. # [11:39] * @khuey hates the build system
  821. # [11:39] <@khuey> it took my precious
  822. # [11:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> decoder: ++ :)
  823. # [11:41] <gabor> khuey: still on windows?
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  825. # [11:43] <decoder> khuey: come to the linux side, we don't have a better build system, but cookies
  826. # [11:43] <@khuey> gabor: indeed
  827. # [11:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3a20a3080de - Jon Coppeard - Bug 916829 - Ensure Debugger::markAll() really marks all debugger weakmaps r=terrence
  828. # [11:44] <@khuey> lack of symlinks is really painful now that we decided to hide exporting away somewhere
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  831. # [11:45] <gabor> khuey: I've just given up on working on windows...
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  834. # [11:46] <@khuey> gabor: yeah I'm getting there :-(
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  857. # [12:22] <Yoric> Where do I file bugs for the-feature-that-used-to-be-known-as-persona?
  858. # [12:22] <Yoric> (Lightweight themes?)
  859. # [12:22] <Yoric> I can't find a relevant component.
  860. # [12:23] <@khuey> Toolkit::Themes?
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  862. # [12:26] <ferjm> khuey, so doing a "nsCOMPtr<nsIMessageListener> weakListener = do_QueryReferent(weak);" at https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsFrameMessageManager.cpp#283 actually works...
  863. # [12:26] <Yoric> khuey: Well, that doesn't seem to exist.
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  866. # [12:27] <@khuey> ferjm: mmm
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  868. # [12:27] <@khuey> ferjm: I have a theory but I'd have to poke at it in a debugger to confirm
  869. # [12:28] <@khuey> Yoric: it exists here
  870. # [12:28] <Yoric> ?
  871. # [12:28] <Yoric> Interesting.
  872. # [12:28] <Yoric> It exists but it doesn't show in the enter_bug.cgi autocomplete.
  873. # [12:29] <ferjm> khuey, which theory if I may know :)?
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  875. # [12:30] <Yoric> khuey: thanks
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  892. # [12:45] <amac> Hey. Is there anyway of run a single mochitest (plain) without it stopping at the end? I want to run a test on a while true loop (it fails randomly), but after the test (and after calling SimpleTest.finish() the test suite stalls until I hit Ctrl+C)
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  909. # [12:55] <@khuey> ferjm: well I'm wondering if XPConnect does the implicit conversion first then maybe the explicit QI works later
  910. # [12:56] <@khuey> ferjm: possible until the tearoff the implicit conversion created gets GCd or something
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  912. # [12:57] <@khuey> fuck
  913. # [12:57] <@khuey> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS/Using_the_B2G_emulators#Are_you_trying_to_work_in_a_VirtualBox_VM.3F
  914. # [12:57] * @khuey wishes he had known that two days ago
  915. # [12:57] <markh> decoder: FTR and incase you are interested, I opened bug 919467 to look more into that "lack of crash" issue under ASan
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  923. # [13:05] <ferjm> khuey, ok, got it. If that's the case, we won't be able to do the check in AddWeakMessageListener, right?
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  925. # [13:05] * @smaug misses some context
  926. # [13:06] <@smaug> We could change MM a bit, I think
  927. # [13:06] <@smaug> try to QI to nsISupports
  928. # [13:06] <@khuey> smaug: ferjm is seeing some weird behavior where the QI suceeds before it fails, I think
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  931. # [13:07] <@smaug> hmm
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  933. # [13:08] <ferjm> khuey, smaug yes, that's it. Doing a "nsCOMPtr<nsIMessageListener> weakListener = do_QueryReferent(weak);" at https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsFrameMessageManager.cpp#283 works at but it fails at https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsFrameMessageManager.cpp#762 if the listener doesn't implement nsIMessageListener
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  936. # [13:09] <@smaug> ferjm: I don't see the first link doing that
  937. # [13:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d50f590056fd - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge b2g-inbound to mozilla-central
  938. # [13:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6f76fe060186 - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia-central revision(s) a=NPOTB
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  940. # [13:10] <ferjm> smaug, that's my addition for bug 915598
  941. # [13:10] <@smaug> ah
  942. # [13:11] <@smaug> ferjm: for debugging?
  943. # [13:11] <@smaug> don't see that in the patch
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  945. # [13:12] <ferjm> smaug, is not attached to the bug yet. The attached patches are only for testing purposes. khuey suggested that we should try to QI to nsIMessageListener and if that fails, throw an error. That's the patch I was writing apart from adding the appropriate QI to the listeners
  946. # [13:13] <@smaug> ferjm: I propose that we don't require explicit QI to nsIMessageListener
  947. # [13:13] <@smaug> since strong listeners don't need that either
  948. # [13:13] <@smaug> let me write a small patch
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  950. # [13:15] <ferjm> smaug, ok, but in that case, https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsFrameMessageManager.cpp#762 would still fail if the listener is not implementing nsIMessageListener even if the listener is not expired, right?
  951. # [13:15] <@smaug> ferjm: or... do you know if nsCOMPtr<nsISupports> realListener = do_QueryReferent(mListeners[i].mWeakListener); works in ReceiveMessage
  952. # [13:15] <@smaug> ferjm: that is what I'm testing
  953. # [13:16] <ferjm> smaug, it works only if the listener implements nsIMessageManager
  954. # [13:16] <decoder> markh: looking :)
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  956. # [13:16] <@smaug> ferjm: and I'm saying that could drop that requirement
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  959. # [13:17] <@smaug> ferjm: if adding listener succeeded, and the object is still there, ReceiveMessage should succeed too
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  962. # [13:17] <ferjm> smaug, ok, should I change nsCOMPtr<nsIMessageListener> weakListener for nsCOMPtr<nsISupports> weakListener then at https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsFrameMessageManager.cpp#760 ?
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  964. # [13:18] <@smaug> ferjm: yes, that what my patch would do
  965. # [13:18] <@smaug> could you try it
  966. # [13:18] <ferjm> sure
  967. # [13:18] <decoder> markh: commented :) but thats nothing new for you probably
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  970. # [13:20] <markh> decoder: the ASan considerations certainly are :)
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  977. # [13:25] <decoder> glandium: a try run suggests that even our regular test suite triggers 125 distinct signed integer overflows in our codebase
  978. # [13:25] <decoder> I mined that from the logs
  979. # [13:26] <decoder> mrbkap: ^^
  980. # [13:26] * tbsaunde wonders how many of those happen while running dom/imptests
  981. # [13:26] <decoder> checking
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  983. # [13:26] <decoder> 3 in dom/media, 1 in dom/tests/mochitest/chrome/test_focus.xul
  984. # [13:27] <decoder> apart from that, none in dom
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  989. # [13:28] <ferjm> smaug, that certainly works :)
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  991. # [13:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c771c423d44 - Nicolas Silva - Bug 918078 - Do not require locking in TextureHost::PrintInfo. r=BenWa
  992. # [13:29] <ferjm> smaug, I'll attach the patch and ask you for r?
  993. # [13:29] <@smaug> ok
  994. # [13:29] <@smaug> ferjm: since I think we should do that
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  996. # [13:31] <Ms2ger> amac, you mean, you want the browser to close when it's done?
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  1001. # [13:36] <decoder> glandium: will you beat me up if I file 125 bugs now? :)
  1002. # [13:36] <decoder> ^.^
  1003. # [13:36] <Ms2ger> Yes
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  1006. # [13:37] <decoder> Ms2ger: I can cc you
  1007. # [13:37] <decoder> ;)
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  1009. # [13:38] <Ms2ger> I'll beat you up more if you do ;)
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  1011. # [13:38] <decoder> ;D
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  1014. # [13:49] <gabor> what is a good (aka fast...) .mozconfig for a debug build on linux?
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  1016. # [13:50] <Ms2ger> "ac_add_options --enable-debug"
  1017. # [13:50] <gabor> an dhow much time should a full rebuild take on a w530 lenovo machine?
  1018. # [13:50] <gabor> Ms2ger: no ccache?
  1019. # [13:51] <Ms2ger> I don't do ccache
  1020. # [13:51] <gabor> how come?
  1021. # [13:51] <decoder> dear developer who implemented the "restore text of textboxes when tabs are restored, even on reload"
  1022. # [13:51] <decoder> thank you!
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  1024. # [13:51] <Ms2ger> Never bothered
  1025. # [13:51] * decoder was just typing long bug description then box hung up
  1026. # [13:51] <gabor> :)
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  1037. # [13:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/172a383a56a7 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 919355 - Part 2: Don't #include nsDeviceContext.h in Units.h; r=roc
  1038. # [13:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9c12325fff6 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 919355 - Part 1: Don't #include nsDeviceContext.h in nsPresContext.h; r=roc
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  1041. # [13:58] <Ms2ger> We were still including nsDeviceContext.h in Units.h?
  1042. # [14:00] <gaston> is there a way to tell hg push to push only a cset to m-i, and not trying to push the csets from m-c i mistakenly locally fetched ?
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  1048. # [14:02] <Ms2ger> gaston, "hg push -r .", I think
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  1052. # [14:03] <gaston> oh, that indeed worked
  1053. # [14:03] <gaston> thanks Ms2ger :)
  1054. # [14:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/833fedc83204 - Jan Beich - Bug 919111 - Explicitly include nsDebug.h for non-SPS. r=ted
  1055. # [14:04] <gaston> one more thing to put on my hg cheatsheet
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  1058. # [14:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Ms2ger just rocks :)
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  1061. # [14:06] <Ms2ger> Why thank you, kind sir
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  1063. # [14:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ;)
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  1065. # [14:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> no seriously you do :)
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  1068. # [14:08] <decoder> Ms2ger: see bug 919486 :)
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  1079. # [14:16] <gaston> decoder: yay for making those warnings disappear properly !
  1080. # [14:16] <gaston> decoder: what next, -Wsign-compare and -Wuninitialized ? or -Woverloaded-virtual ? :)
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  1088. # [14:21] <Ms2ger> Mm, the -Woverloaded-virtual in layers is probably even a bug
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  1091. # [14:22] <Ms2ger> Oh, no
  1092. # [14:23] <Ms2ger> How silly
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  1099. # [14:28] <decoder> gaston: im not using warning flags actually, but rather a runtime checker. uninitialized at runtime is really hard (called memory sanitizer, but it doesnt work with our jits and we have some outstanding reports on it)
  1100. # [14:28] <decoder> what is overloaded virtual?
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  1102. # [14:29] <gaston> i know i have it a lot in my builds
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  1104. # [14:29] <gaston> /home/buildslave/comm-central-i386/build/mozilla/accessible/src/generic/Accessible.h:116:3: warning: 'virtual nsresult mozilla::a11y::Accessible::GroupPosition(int32_t*, int32_t*, int32_t*)' was hidden [-Woverloaded-virtual]
  1105. # [14:30] <gaston> /home/buildslave/comm-central-i386/build/mozilla/accessible/src/generic/../xul/XULTreeAccessible.h:162:20: warning: by 'virtual mozilla::a11y::GroupPos mozilla::a11y::XULTreeItemAccessibleBase::GroupPosition()' [-Woverloaded-virtual]
  1106. # [14:30] <Yoric> mak: Async n:n in progress.
  1107. # [14:30] <Yoric> !seen mano
  1108. # [14:30] <gaston> that kind of thing
  1109. # [14:30] <firebot> mano was last seen 3 days, 19 hours, 27 minutes and 31 seconds ago, saying '(gtg, please email me if you want something to happen about this :) )' in #fx-team.
  1110. # [14:30] <decoder> gaston: and these are typically bugs?
  1111. # [14:31] <gaston> might be since some defs are hiding others at some point
  1112. # [14:32] <gaston> but i'll blame the PRint vs int_t mismatch we have on openbsd :)
  1113. # [14:32] <gaston> actually that might be unrelated
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  1116. # [14:33] <tbsaunde> gaston: yeah, that's unrelated I seriously doubt that case causes trouble, but we should rename the xpidl method because the warning is annoying
  1117. # [14:34] <tbsaunde> I've been meaning to hit it with binaryname for ages bet always had better things to do :/
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  1119. # [14:35] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, hey, me too :)
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  1122. # [14:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92b58c9e331d - Benjamin Peterson - Bug 919175 - Fix some unused variable warnings on optimized builds in jit/. r=jandem
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  1163. # [15:08] <Kailas> Hi, does any one know about CustomEvent? I am having a strange problem. CustomEvent is invoked only for first time, but for second time onwards it doesn't invoke listener function.
  1164. # [15:08] <Kailas> Event dispatch is done at: https://github.com/patilkr/securityReportTool/blob/master/data/securityReport.js#L69
  1165. # [15:08] <Kailas> Event listener: https://github.com/patilkr/securityReportTool/blob/master/lib/securityReportUI.js#L271
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  1191. # [15:26] <stransky> glandium, maybe a stupid question but why isn't xulrunner/xulrunner-bin (and firefox binary then) linked to libxul.so?
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  1195. # [15:28] <@smaug> Kailas: are you dispatching the same event twice?
  1196. # [15:28] <@smaug> based on that code, no
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  1198. # [15:29] <Kailas> smaug: Could you please suggest me what should be remedy?
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  1202. # [15:30] <Kailas> smaug: Is there limitation on number of dispatch?
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  1204. # [15:31] <@smaug> Kailas: well, you are dispatching a new event each time, right?
  1205. # [15:31] <Kailas> smaug: yes
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  1207. # [15:32] <shachar_laptop> Hello all, I'd like to know what technology does mega.co.nz use for their web downloader in firefox? (Is it indexDB?) or flash as written in here:http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15994554/download-files-like-mega-co-nz
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  1209. # [15:33] <@smaug> Kailas: so, it has nothing to do with dispatching same event twice (which should work)
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  1213. # [15:33] <@smaug> Kailas: I assume your listener isn't there the second time
  1214. # [15:33] <mrbkap> Jesse: ping?
  1215. # [15:33] <Kailas> smaug: why?
  1216. # [15:34] <Kailas> smaug: I didn't remove my listener.
  1217. # [15:34] <Kailas> smaug: So it should be there.
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  1219. # [15:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ac87d872885 - Rick Eyre - Bug 867823 - Implement TextTrack Add/RemoveCue. r=rillian
  1220. # [15:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/60c4c441b5a2 - Martin Stransky - Bug 912959 - libxul.so link fails - ToNumberSlow() is built as a hidden symbol. r=luke
  1221. # [15:34] <@smaug> Kailas: well, is it possible that a new document has been loaded to reportUI.panelWin?
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  1223. # [15:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/969aeee55c09 - Bobby Holley - Bug 912379 - Unwrap before translating StopIteration. r=mrbkap
  1224. # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83a2c216da80 - Rick Eyre - Bug 917945 - Part 2: Add RegionId attribute to VTTCue. r=rillian
  1225. # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc388d750df7 - Benoit Girard - Bug 918942 - Add label in DrawWindowOverlay to diagnose potential ANR dead locks. r=jmuizelaar
  1226. # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1e5aa8e93ea - Rick Eyre - Bug 917945 - Part 3: Add VTTRegions to its TextTrack upon receiving them. r=rillian, r=bz
  1227. # [15:35] <@smaug> and you haven't re-add the listener to the new documentElement
  1228. # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00a758bf68ed - Birunthan Mohanathas - Bug 264517 - Move the _LAYOUT variant of COMPUTED_STYLE_MAP_ENTRY into a property bit. r=dbaron
  1229. # [15:35] <RyanVM> BenWa: ping
  1230. # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3088626d9e34 - Rick Eyre - Bug 868611 - Implement HTMLTrackElement::UnbindFromTree. r=rillian
  1231. # [15:35] <avih> dholbert: ping
  1232. # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9403fb5920fa - Rick Eyre - Bug 917945 - Part 1: Expose TextTrackRegion* as VTTRegion*. r=rillian, r=bz
  1233. # [15:35] <RyanVM> 6:35am? heh
  1234. # [15:35] <Kailas> smaug: hmm
  1235. # [15:36] <Kailas> smaug: my document is developer tool UI created by my tool
  1236. # [15:36] <Kailas> smaug: is it automatically reloaded by firefox?
  1237. # [15:36] <Kailas> because I haven't reloaded the UI
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  1239. # [15:37] <Jesse> mrbkap: pong
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  1242. # [15:38] <decoder> RyanVM: already a few green asan runs now :) looks like the intermittents are gone \o/
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  1244. # [15:38] <RyanVM> decoder: nice :)
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  1246. # [15:38] <decoder> at least the heavy ones
  1247. # [15:38] <RyanVM> glad you've got symbols working too
  1248. # [15:38] <decoder> cool
  1249. # [15:39] <decoder> i knew it would be helpful for you guys =)
  1250. # [15:39] <@smaug> Kailas: I have no idea. ask #devtools?
  1251. # [15:39] <Kailas> smaug: Thanks!
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  1254. # [15:41] <mrbkap> Jesse: Hey, is domFuzzLite3.xpi the most recent version of the addon?
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  1256. # [15:43] <Jesse> mrbkap: it's the most recent published one. i update it occasionally (without changing the filename)
  1257. # [15:43] <past> zandr: do you happen to know when or if this video on airmo is going to be available? https://air.mozilla.org/2013-intern-presentations-september-19/
  1258. # [15:44] <mrbkap> Jesse: ok, cool. Thanks.
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  1261. # [15:45] <decoder> mrbkap: can you comment on bug 919486 whenever you get the time?
  1262. # [15:45] <decoder> Jesse: you as well if you want :D
  1263. # [15:45] <decoder> i forgot to cc you
  1264. # [15:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0406c0df0453 - Dan Minor - Bug 916742 - Add new jit-test dependencies to test package; r=ted
  1265. # [15:46] <mrbkap> decoder: Mind needinfoing me?
  1266. # [15:46] <decoder> mrbkap: sure one sec
  1267. # [15:47] <decoder> mrbkap: done. and i just cced you on there because we had that discussion the other day so I figured you might have something to contribute to that discussion
  1268. # [15:47] <mrbkap> decoder: Don't be shy to needinfo me in general, if you don't, there's a large risk that I'll forget to comment :-/
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  1270. # [15:47] <Jesse> that metabug will overlap with a whiteboard tag i've been using, [-fsanitize=signed-integer-overflow]
  1271. # [15:47] <decoder> mrbkap: okay :)
  1272. # [15:48] <decoder> Jesse: whiteboard tags arent really good to track progress for goals etc
  1273. # [15:48] <decoder> and this could eventually be a goal
  1274. # [15:48] <Gijs> How is it possible to get an overflow event for horizontal overflow on a container where container.scrollWidth == container.clientWidth ?
  1275. # [15:48] <Jesse> decoder: why signed integer overflow in particular? (as opposed to the other things UBSan detects)
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  1277. # [15:49] <decoder> Jesse: because signed integer overflow is known to be optimized by e.g. gcc
  1278. # [15:49] <decoder> while other stuff that ubsan detects is hypothetical at this point
  1279. # [15:49] <decoder> at least some
  1280. # [15:49] <decoder> also I've got backing from glandium on the signed integer overflow one
  1281. # [15:49] <decoder> and without any backing from devs or compiler people, we wont get very far with this
  1282. # [15:50] <Jesse> ok
  1283. # [15:50] <decoder> that doesnt mean we shouldnt address the other stuff too^^ we just need to prioritize
  1284. # [15:51] <Jesse> compilers also optimize based on null, but i'm not sure how to separate those from the numerous null deref crashes that we believe to be safe
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  1286. # [15:51] <mrbkap> masayuki: ping?
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  1288. # [15:51] <decoder> Jesse: i havent seen any bug yet that stems from a null deref optimization. but ill be glad to look at one
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  1291. # [15:52] <masayuki> mrbkap: pong
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  1293. # [15:53] <Jesse> decoder: there was https://isc.sans.edu/diary/A+new+fascinating+Linux+kernel+vulnerability/6820 but i guess that particular pattern can only happen in kernel code
  1294. # [15:53] <decoder> yea, in kernel code this is entirely different
  1295. # [15:53] <decoder> im aware of that
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  1298. # [15:54] <mrbkap> masayuki: Hey, so I think I figured out why I was seeing bug 892539
  1299. # [15:54] <mrbkap> masayuki: Do you care at all?
  1300. # [15:54] <Jesse> if you add DCE or reordering, you might be able to make something similar happen in user code
  1301. # [15:54] <mrbkap> masayuki: (if not, don't worry about it)
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  1304. # [15:55] <Jesse> hah i missed the part where SELinux makes the bug easier to exploit
  1305. # [15:55] <decoder> true. however, if e.g. gcc did that, *a lot* of stuff would probably break and one would quickly notice. i doubt that this optimization is happening in real world userland code right now
  1306. # [15:56] <decoder> but i could be wrong
  1307. # [15:56] <decoder> from what I remember, we have so many places that are affected by this, that it's unlikely to be actionable atm
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  1311. # [15:58] <shachar_laptop> Is there a way for a user to know whether a specific site uses indexDB?
  1312. # [15:58] <Jesse> we could watch for runs that hit [-fsanitize=null] and then go on to do something other than segfault on page 0. we'd have to fix a few bugs first.
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  1315. # [15:59] <Jesse> but focusing on signed integer overflows for now makes sense :)
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  1318. # [16:00] <masayuki> mrbkap: I couldn't reproduce it on my environment. However, the code was written with undocumented information in Apple's document. Therefore, now, when the code detects the strange situation, it resets the stored information. So, it's completely fixed now.
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  1324. # [16:02] <masayuki> mrbkap: In other words, I gave up to find the actual cause. I suspect a bug of Mac OS X.
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  1326. # [16:03] <Jesse> decoder: i've heard of lots of cases where a compiler will optimize away an overflow check, because the check itself is written in a way that executes undefined behavior in the overflow case
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  1328. # [16:03] <tbsaunde> decoder: I'm not convinced compilers don't optimize null, but I think its a lot harder to get a system that will map the null page
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  1331. # [16:04] <decoder> tbsaunde: yea, mapping null is not possible in userland on any modern system. Jesse might be thinking about other vulnerabilities though, that dont need null mapped, but where null checks are required to be removed to hit the code
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  1333. # [16:05] <decoder> Jesse: true yea. we also cannot always detect that because there's still a difference between clang and gcc in terms of optimizations. gcc might optimize stuff that clang doesnt
  1334. # [16:05] <decoder> so we might miss it in ubsan
  1335. # [16:05] <decoder> but I think what we're doing now is a good start
  1336. # [16:05] <tbsaunde> decoder: well, the gcc people are working on ubsan so eventually that won't be an issue
  1337. # [16:05] <decoder> nice
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  1340. # [16:07] <tbsaunde> I wonder how you'd get into a situation where code needs a null check htat will never fail to be there to be safe
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  1348. # [16:10] <froydnj> mjrosenb: ping on bug 915228
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  1370. # [16:30] <mjrosenb> froydnj: whoops, thought I r+'ed that last week. did you post a new patch?
  1371. # [16:31] <froydnj> mjrosenb: small alteration to satisfy the style gods
  1372. # [16:31] <froydnj> mjrosenb: thanks!
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  1462. # [17:28] <dholbert> avih, semi-pong [on train]
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  1464. # [17:29] <avih> dholbert: semi question ;) do you think bug 918519 could have improved gfx performance somehow? my impression that other than macro-ing, it doesn't actually change anything...
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  1466. # [17:29] <avih> dholbert: Bug 918519 - Add macro versions of GetMainComponent/GetCrossComponent, to avoid unnecessarily evaluating expensive function calls
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  1468. # [17:30] <dholbert> avih, highly unlikely
  1469. # [17:30] <dholbert> avih, the expensive function calls mentioned in the bug name are coming later, and don't exist yet :)
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  1471. # [17:31] <avih> dholbert: yeah, i think the same, but wanted to double check with you. there's some very big improvement on several gfx related tests (tscroll, tresize, tart), and i can't see anything meaningful in any of the potential changesets, maybe possibly except for this bug...
  1472. # [17:32] <dholbert> avih, I'd be *very* surprised if any of those tests use "display:flex", since they've been around for a while
  1473. # [17:32] <dholbert> avih, and without that, there's zero chance they're even exercising this coe
  1474. # [17:32] <dholbert> *code
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  1476. # [17:32] <Gijs> is bugzilla not emailing at the minute? :s
  1477. # [17:32] <avih> dholbert: i don't think any of them use display:flex (is that an xul or css thingy?)
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  1481. # [17:33] <Gijs> (it's been 13 minutes since the bug change, I don't see anything on the gmail web interface or in Thunderbird)
  1482. # [17:33] <glob> Gijs, looking
  1483. # [17:33] <glob> Gijs, email is still working
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  1485. # [17:33] <avih> Gijs: bugzilla doesn't like you today. you can go out playing swords!
  1486. # [17:34] <Gijs> glob: not queued up or something? Why did I not get email for jaws reviewing my patch on bug 882582 ? :)
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  1488. # [17:34] <Gijs> avih: I guess :s
  1489. # [17:34] <glob> Gijs, i looked in the queue. will poke further
  1490. # [17:34] * Gijs wonders if it's gmail's fault
  1491. # [17:34] <Gijs> I just got bugmail from 1.5 hour ago.
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  1493. # [17:35] <glob> Gijs, if history is anything to go by, yes. but that won't stop me looking :)
  1494. # [17:35] <Gijs> haha
  1495. # [17:35] <Gijs> glob: thanks for being awesome :)
  1496. # [17:35] <Callek> Gijs: I've seen others report GMail bugmail backlog today
  1497. # [17:35] <Callek> so I suspect it is gmails fault
  1498. # [17:35] <Gijs> glob: ^^ well, there we go then :s
  1499. # [17:35] <Callek> my newest mail is dated about an hour ago
  1500. # [17:35] <Callek> (in gmail)
  1501. # [17:35] <dholbert> avih, it's css, for a modern reenvisioning of XUL box-model-ish behavior, in html
  1502. # [17:35] <glob> Gijs, we sent that email at Sep 23 08:20:09
  1503. # [17:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Callek: Gijs: yes, gmail's slow today
  1504. # [17:36] <Callek> ahhh and just got one about :41 from the last hour
  1505. # [17:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i was complaining about it in #releng earlier today
  1506. # [17:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i'm getting emails as much as 2hr behind
  1507. # [17:36] <glob> Callek, RyanVM|sheriffduty: ahhh, thanks :)
  1508. # [17:36] <jaws> glob: on another topic, is it not possible to have multiple ui-reviewers flagged?
  1509. # [17:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> glob: dustin took a look at the headers and declared it a gmail issue, and I believe him :)
  1510. # [17:36] <jaws> i try to put a comma separated list in there but it just uses the first email address
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  1514. # [17:37] <avih> dholbert: ermm.. ok ;) though i still don't think it's related to those tests. if you'd like to followup/comment, see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=908888#c22 onwards
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  1516. # [17:37] <dholbert> avih, totally agree that it's unrelated to those tests
  1517. # [17:37] <glob> jaws, the ui-review flag is configured to only allow a single instance per attachment
  1518. # [17:38] <jaws> ok
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  1521. # [17:38] <jaws> i just used the review flag for the second person
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  1523. # [17:38] <glob> jaws, if you want that changed (it's a checkbox) file a bug so we have auditing
  1524. # [17:38] <jaws> yeah, not sure it is useful often enough
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  1527. # [17:39] <avih> dholbert: thx for the confirmation :)
  1528. # [17:39] <dholbert> np!
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  1541. # [17:47] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: you're building the "fold JS" bug for x86, right?
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  1543. # [17:48] <froydnj> bsmedberg: "fold JS" also wins because calls to JS functions can be internal to libxul, rather than going through the PLT. +1 to that
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  1547. # [17:48] <@bsmedberg> froydnj: you mean on Linux? there is no PLT on windows or mac
  1548. # [17:48] <@bsmedberg> we should really just stop using ELF and the PLT on Linux also
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  1551. # [17:49] <froydnj> wow, MOZ_PSEUDO_DERECURSE cuts off 30%+ of build time
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  1556. # [17:49] <froydnj> bsmedberg: yeah; the functions aren't similarly lazy-linked on win or mac?
  1557. # [17:49] <froydnj> bsmedberg: stop using ELF (?!)
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  1562. # [17:51] <@bsmedberg> froydnj: relocations are performed directly on the code in mach-o and PE (can be page-at-a-time to help startup)
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  1564. # [17:52] <froydnj> bsmedberg: ah. fun!
  1565. # [17:52] <@bsmedberg> there's little technical reason we couldn't also do that on linux, except for some issues about mapping pages executable and writable and selinux
  1566. # [17:52] <@bsmedberg> not hard to work around
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  1570. # [17:53] <froydnj> we wrote our own runtime linker, let's write our own object format, too
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  1575. # [17:54] <froydnj> bsmedberg: the win would really be on Android at this point
  1576. # [17:54] <froydnj> (i.e. for no plt)
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  1580. # [17:54] <@bsmedberg> yeah
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  1596. # [18:03] <reyre> what version of C++ is gecko using?
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  1600. # [18:03] <hub> reyre: we are progressively adding more C++11 in it. why?
  1601. # [18:04] <hub> reyre: but it is not a "free for all".
  1602. # [18:04] <reyre> hub: i'm wondering if i can 'cascade' constructors, which it seems like i can since it compiled
  1603. # [18:04] <hub> reyre: not sure this feature is allowed
  1604. # [18:04] <reyre> hub: i.e. Ctor(x, y) : Ctor(x) {};
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  1608. # [18:04] <reyre> hub: ah okay
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  1610. # [18:04] <@smaug> I don't think that is supported everywhere
  1611. # [18:05] <hub> draft reference https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_CXX_in_Mozilla_code
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  1613. # [18:05] <hub> Delegated constructors <- NO
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  1618. # [18:06] <reyre> hub: okay :( i'll stay away from it then, thanks!
  1619. # [18:06] <reyre> smaug: thanks
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  1623. # [18:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70221b582ca1 - Ted Mielczarek - Bug 913446 - WebRTC Mochitest changes to allow running under Steeplechase. r=jsmith,ctalbert
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  1634. # [18:10] <joneshf-laptop> trying to build fennec on arch linux, `python` is 3.3.2, is there something I can add to `.mozconfig` for it to use `python2` or `python2.7` as the default python?
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  1636. # [18:11] <joneshf-laptop> tried this, but it doesn't seem to work: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.builds/vBF1Cafomrc/IGWVoeyosGcJ
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  1640. # [18:12] <joneshf-laptop> i should say, it still tells me i'm running python3.3.2 when i try `./mach build`
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  1657. # [18:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Yoric: did you mean to put checkin-needed on bug 911115 again?
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  1666. # [18:24] <tn> gabor, pong
  1667. # [18:24] <froydnj> joneshf-laptop: did you delete your object directory after adding the PYTHON export to your mozconfig?
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  1670. # [18:24] <gabor> tn: Hey, I just wanted to ask you about bug 565388
  1671. # [18:25] <gabor> tn: but I hope I figured it all out...
  1672. # [18:25] <gabor> tn: one thing... do you think it's ok if I add this flagging thing to nsIWidget?
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  1675. # [18:26] <tn> gabor, yeah, that sounds right
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  1677. # [18:26] <gabor> tn: alright, thanks :)
  1678. # [18:26] <tn> gabor, good luck, let me know if you have more questions
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  1680. # [18:28] <gabor> tn: thanks, will do that
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  1687. # [18:30] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: yes, x86
  1688. # [18:30] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: how come?
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  1720. # [18:39] <joneshf-laptop> froydnj, I didnt, now that you mention that I remember that being in the windows vm setup. I dont think thats in the linux guide however. In anycase, I just creatted a virtualenv for it and it seems to work.
  1721. # [18:39] <joneshf-laptop> thanks though
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  1723. # [18:40] <froydnj> joneshf-laptop: glad that you got it to work!
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  1739. # [18:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/df368eed61f9 - Luke Wagner - Bug 900669 - convert some more ARM-only void* uses into ImmPtr (r=mjrosenb)
  1740. # [18:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ac62fceb9362 - Luke Wagner - Bug 900669 - OdinMonkey: avoid all uses of ImmPtr/AbsoluteAddress from asm.js code (r=bbouvier,mjrosenb,sr=jandem)
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  1742. # [18:52] <froydnj> ehsan: ping
  1743. # [18:52] <@ehsan> froydnj: hi
  1744. # [18:52] <froydnj> ehsan: ah, I guess you were just talking about your fennec startup woes in #mobile
  1745. # [18:53] <@ehsan> froydnj: no, but I can talk about them wherever you want :)
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  1747. # [18:53] <froydnj> ehsan: how about here!
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  1749. # [18:53] <@ehsan> froydnj: sure!
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  1751. # [18:54] <@ehsan> froydnj: so basically fennec startup time these days is almost as bad as xul fennec
  1752. # [18:54] <@ehsan> the chrome still shows up fast
  1753. # [18:54] <@ehsan> but we take quite some time loading libxul it seems
  1754. # [18:54] <@ehsan> and sometimes that breaks interactions with the UI
  1755. # [18:55] <@ehsan> presumbaly because the flash is busy doing io etc
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  1757. # [18:55] <froydnj> ehsan: what's the metric here? "ehsan's happiness"?
  1758. # [18:56] <@ehsan> froydnj: how about "as fast as chrome"?
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  1760. # [18:56] <@ehsan> (we used to be faster at some point, but I'll take parity now!)
  1761. # [18:56] <froydnj> ehsan: well, according to our own tests, we haven't been as fast as chrome for some time
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  1764. # [18:56] <jcranmer|away> !seen smontagu
  1765. # [18:56] <firebot> smontagu was last seen 1 week, 6 days, 21 hours, 39 minutes and 15 seconds ago, saying 'reyre: np :)' in #developers.
  1766. # [18:56] <jcranmer|away> o_O
  1767. # [18:57] <froydnj> e.g. http://eideticker.wrla.ch/#/samsung-gn/nytimes-load-poststartup/timetostableframe
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  1773. # [18:58] <@ehsan> froydnj: I can believe that!
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  1776. # [18:58] <@ehsan> froydnj: the thing which bothers me is that we've passed the bar of "acceptable startup time" quite a while ago
  1777. # [18:59] <@ehsan> and I'm on a blazing fast device (galaxy s3)
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  1779. # [19:00] <@ehsan> froydnj: vladan mentioned that you may be interested in knowing this, since you are (were?) working on fennec startup
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  1781. # [19:00] <froydnj> ehsan: indeed
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  1809. # [19:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a906226a3865 - Patrick McManus - bug 904170 - telemetry for daily http data consumption r=jduell
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  1819. # [19:18] <@ted> that windows debug B red on my push is exciting
  1820. # [19:19] <@ted> clearly not mine, since my change was test-only
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  1823. # [19:20] <RyanVM> ted: bustage from a disconnect on the previous job
  1824. # [19:20] <@ted> ah
  1825. # [19:20] <@ted> okay
  1826. # [19:20] <RyanVM> since those don't auto-clobber
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  1828. # [19:20] <@ted> exciting
  1829. # [19:20] <@ted> RyanVM: related, that bug about failed mochitest server startups, philor noted that they seem to always come after a cancelled job on that slave
  1830. # [19:21] <@ted> which means we're not cleaning up properly after cancelled jobs
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  1846. # [19:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c53e80370c9a - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 918923 - Part 2: Switch to #including nsString.h in code using the internal strings API; r=bsmedberg
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  1853. # [19:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a339ee738522 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 918927 - Minimize the #includes in chrome/; r=bsmedberg
  1854. # [19:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd2d55e6ee1b - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 919054 - Use Audio node instead of audio API. r=marcoz
  1855. # [19:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/019a8c04596b - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 918598 - Support touch typing. r=marcoz r=davidb
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  1858. # [19:29] <reuben> wtf
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  1860. # [19:29] <reuben> mach is causing infinite print dialogs to show up when using iTerm
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  1864. # [19:30] <@ehsan> reuben: yeah
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  1866. # [19:30] <@ehsan> I've seen this for a long time
  1867. # [19:30] <jhammel> did you count all ∞?
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  1869. # [19:30] <reuben> ehsan: worked fine for me until I updated my tree today
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  1871. # [19:31] <@ehsan> reuben: it's intermittent
  1872. # [19:31] <reuben> argh
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  1874. # [19:31] <reuben> any workarounds?
  1875. # [19:31] <reuben> disabling color output maybe?
  1876. # [19:31] <@ehsan> not sure, sorry
  1877. # [19:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/004effcc3ee3 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 919341 - Minimize the #includes in xpcom/ IDL files; r=bsmedberg
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  1880. # [19:33] <reuben> looks like the mangled output from parallel compilation is creating invalid bash color codes and causing iTerm to think the print shortcut was pressed
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  1884. # [19:36] <tbsaunde> reuben: luls
  1885. # [19:36] <reuben> yea
  1886. # [19:36] <Luqman> that issue :(
  1887. # [19:37] <reuben> |./mach build 2&>1 > output.txt| it is…
  1888. # [19:37] <Luqman> you can disable something to get rid of it
  1889. # [19:37] <Luqman> session-initiated printing in prefs->profiles->terminal.
  1890. # [19:37] <Mook_as> reuben: isn't that backwards?
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  1892. # [19:37] <reuben> Luqman: sweet :D
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  1895. # [19:38] <reuben> Mook_as: mangled by parallel typing :)
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  1901. # [19:41] <reuben> lol it even minimizes the terminal randomly
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  1956. # [20:06] <@smaug> is it possible to ask try to run certain test x times?
  1957. # [20:06] <philor> no
  1958. # [20:06] <@smaug> or should I just wait for the test to start run and then retrigger it?
  1959. # [20:06] <philor> yes
  1960. # [20:06] <@smaug> k
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  1962. # [20:06] <philor> filed, but it'll never go anywhere
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  1964. # [20:07] <froydnj> you could probably hack the .py scripts to run tests a number of times
  1965. # [20:07] * jcranmer|away is now known as jcranmer
  1966. # [20:07] <froydnj> but that's not exactly configurable or discoverable
  1967. # [20:07] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: ping
  1968. # [20:07] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: pong
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  1970. # [20:08] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: I wanted your thoughts on https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_CXX_in_Mozilla_code
  1971. # [20:08] <jcranmer> I haven't had time to do the research for the standard library stuff
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  1975. # [20:10] * froydnj wonders what these 3k observers in a desktop build are actually doing
  1976. # [20:11] <@bsmedberg> froydnj: nsIObserverService observers?
  1977. # [20:11] <@bsmedberg> 3k does sound high
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  1980. # [20:12] <froydnj> bsmedberg: I believe that's what this line in about:memory says: 4,371 (100.0%) -- observer-service
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  1982. # [20:12] <froydnj> oh, 4k observers
  1983. # [20:13] <froydnj> ~3600 strong observers
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  1987. # [20:14] * froydnj really needs to make M-C-x DTRT for defvar forms
  1988. # [20:14] <@smaug> froydnj: each docshell adds observers. there is a bug open to fix that
  1989. # [20:14] <@smaug> er
  1990. # [20:14] <@smaug> nm
  1991. # [20:14] <@smaug> It was about pref service
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  1993. # [20:14] <froydnj> smaug: yeah, that should help with the 1300 pref observers
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  1996. # [20:15] <@smaug> froydnj: could you debug which notifications have most observers?
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  2001. # [20:16] <froydnj> smaug: working on that
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  2005. # [20:17] <froydnj> ah, xpcom, land of nsObserverService in ds/
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  2007. # [20:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44cba3ea6b9d - Chris Peterson - Bug 919403 - Fix warning about DocAccessible ctor's initialization order. r=tbsaunde
  2008. # [20:18] <froydnj> ah, we only start complaining when one topic has 1k observers
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  2011. # [20:20] <@bz> froydnj: It's a data structure. ;)
  2012. # [20:20] <reuben> what compiler flags does AC_TRY_RUN use?
  2013. # [20:20] <froydnj> bz: touche!
  2014. # [20:20] <froydnj> reuben: probably whatever CFLAGS is at that point?
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  2016. # [20:21] <jcranmer> unless you switch the language to C++?
  2017. # [20:21] <reuben> hmm
  2018. # [20:21] <reuben> so we're probably adding -fno-rtti after this configure check runs
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  2020. # [20:21] <reuben> http://www.mail-archive.com/cfe-commits@cs.uiuc.edu/msg76623.html breaks things
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  2025. # [20:23] <froydnj> reuben: define "breaks things" (file a bug?)
  2026. # [20:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8677a18553e7 - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 790483 - click-to-play plugins fail to show placeholder after resizing. r=jaws
  2027. # [20:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e5cf3b5ea4f - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 903386 - Make all delayed PluginModuleParent tasks revocable. r=aklotz
  2028. # [20:24] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: what kinds of thoughts are you looking for?
  2029. # [20:24] <reuben> froydnj: breaks the build, we do the AC_TRY_RUN to test if dynamic_cast<void*> works before we add -fno-rtti to CFLAGS
  2030. # [20:24] <reuben> so HAVE_CPP_DYNAMIC_CAST_TO_VOID_PTR is defined but dynamic_cast<void*> doesn't work
  2031. # [20:24] <reuben> I'm filing a bug
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  2035. # [20:25] <@bsmedberg> reuben: against clang? I fought and fixed something very similar in GCC many years ago.
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  2039. # [20:26] <Yoric> RyanVM: Remind me, once I have approval for uplift, should I mark again as checkin-needed?
  2040. # [20:27] * froydnj watches the NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS spew
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  2044. # [20:28] <RyanVM> Yoric: no need
  2045. # [20:28] <Yoric> RyanVM: Thanks.
  2046. # [20:28] <@bz> But in the end, you're successful
  2047. # [20:28] <RyanVM> as long as it's resolved and has the TM set properly
  2048. # [20:28] <@bz> right?
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  2051. # [20:28] <Ms2ger> So if bug 845 is 15 years old
  2052. # [20:29] <Ms2ger> Does that mean a bug 915 anniversary is coming up?
  2053. # [20:29] <@bsmedberg> reuben: see http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28687
  2054. # [20:29] <froydnj> means we're just about to the point where we can foist it off on some unsuspecting college student ;)
  2055. # [20:29] <Ms2ger> Apparently on Thursday
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  2058. # [20:32] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: mostly, I was looking for some sort of approval to remove the "draft" notice from the page
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  2060. # [20:33] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: oh in that case you probably want somebody from MFBT to approve it. froydnj perhaps?
  2061. # [20:33] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: after it's approved will it be linked from the style guide?
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  2064. # [20:34] <jcranmer> I hope so
  2065. # [20:34] <reuben> bsmedberg: a-ha. okay, I'll file a bug against clang
  2066. # [20:34] <jcranmer> I may want to finish adding standard library notices up there first
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  2071. # [20:35] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, ?
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  2075. # [20:36] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: ?
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  2078. # [20:37] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, mfbt something?
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  2080. # [20:38] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_CXX_in_Mozilla_code$edit
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  2082. # [20:39] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, nice
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  2093. # [20:45] <jcranmer> hmm
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  2095. # [20:45] <jcranmer> where is our bool conversion operator helper class located?
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  2097. # [20:46] <tbsaunde> somewhere in mfbt I think
  2098. # [20:47] <Ms2ger> We have one now?
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  2100. # [20:47] <jcranmer> I recall seeing one
  2101. # [20:48] <jcranmer> I just can't figure out where it ran off to
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  2105. # [20:49] <Yoric> lmandel: If we want to organize a few perf-related open sessions for the summit, is there something we need to do, besides following the link you sent by e-mail?
  2106. # [20:49] <Mook_as> jcranmer: I don't suppose it would be easy for the "can be used in code" column can grow a minimum gecko version?
  2107. # [20:49] <Mook_as> err, s/can/to/
  2108. # [20:49] <lmandel> Yoric: That's it. Submit your open sessions. If you want to hold the session at multiple locations you'll need to find multiple presenters
  2109. # [20:50] <jcranmer> Mook_as: that could be done
  2110. # [20:50] <jcranmer> I'm holding off slightly until I figure out how to organize the standard library section
  2111. # [20:50] <Mook_as> (describing how to use it for previous versions is probably not worth the effort if it's annoying, of course)
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  2114. # [20:50] <jcranmer> in general, I dislike documentating older versions of Firefox when it's this low-level
  2115. # [20:51] <Mook_as> yep, hence the not expecting instructions on using things in them if the wrappers change.
  2116. # [20:51] <tbsaunde> can't you just look at what the document was like when that version was trunk?
  2117. # [20:52] <jcranmer> we haven't adjusted compiler expectations since adjusting C++11 mode for 25
  2118. # [20:52] <jcranmer> although, arguably, our helpers like mozilla::Move are more version-specific
  2119. # [20:52] <froydnj> smaug: here are my observers for a m-c tip build, strangely somewhat lower than a regular nightly: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3130348
  2120. # [20:52] <froydnj> bsmedberg: if you are interested: ^
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  2122. # [20:53] <@smaug> oh right, the use of dom-storage2-changed is a bit odd
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  2124. # [20:53] <@smaug> I'm surprised about network:offline-status-changed
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  2127. # [20:54] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: weren't some people building 25 with clang 3.0?
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  2130. # [20:55] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: 3.0 versus 3.1 don't affect the supportability of features
  2131. # [20:55] <tbsaunde> ah
  2132. # [20:55] <jcranmer> upping gcc 4.5/4.6 or MSVC would
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  2134. # [20:56] <bent> gps, ping
  2135. # [20:56] <froydnj> smaug: afaics, nsGlobalWindow adds a n:o-s-c observer
  2136. # [20:56] <tbsaunde> yeah, hopefully b2g changes soon
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  2140. # [20:56] <jcranmer> MSVC -> 2012 gives us typed enums, gcc->4.5 gives us lambdas, gcc->4.6 gives us nullptr as well, and doing both gives us ranged for loops and forward-declared enums
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  2142. # [20:57] <froydnj> b2g should just come forward to 4.7 or even 4.8
  2143. # [20:58] <jcranmer> I don't know our minimum desktop Linux version
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  2146. # [20:58] <jcranmer> I assume it's 4.6 or 4.7
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  2148. # [20:58] <jcranmer> I think glandium has the most say in that
  2149. # [20:58] <@smaug> froydnj: ah, indeed
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  2151. # [20:58] <jcranmer> and he's hopefully sleeping right now
  2152. # [20:58] <froydnj> hm, so with a couple hundred open tabs, several thousand observers is not that unusual
  2153. # [20:59] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: earliest I've seen anyone use is 4.6 and I think glandium siad he'd be fine with 4.7
  2154. # [20:59] <jcranmer> MSVC is the real laggard for the most part
  2155. # [21:00] * jcranmer wonders if we'll jump straight to 2013 when it comes out
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  2157. # [21:00] <tbsaunde> if its mythical cross tool chain actually works I can't imagine we wouldn't
  2158. # [21:01] <jcranmer> when is 2013 RTM?
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  2174. # [21:05] <gps> bent: pong
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  2178. # [21:06] <bent> gps, hi, are there any plans to fix the export of headers during partial rebuilds on windows?
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  2181. # [21:06] <jcranmer> oh wow
  2182. # [21:06] <jcranmer> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/vstudio/hh567368%28v=vs.120%29.aspx now adds the _MSC_VER macros
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  2188. # [21:11] <gps> bent: yes
  2189. # [21:12] <bent> gps, cool, remember the bug # offhand? or what i should search for?
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  2196. # [21:13] <gps> bent: bug 913159 is related
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  2200. # [21:14] <rillian> RyanVM: what does 'c;r' mean?
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  2202. # [21:15] <Ms2ger> crap;retriggered?
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  2204. # [21:15] <RyanVM> rillian: clobbered;retriggered
  2205. # [21:15] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: nice to have you back
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  2207. # [21:15] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, <3
  2208. # [21:15] <Ms2ger> I missed your cat today!
  2209. # [21:15] <RyanVM> now fix the dom tests
  2210. # [21:15] <RyanVM> he made a brief appearance
  2211. # [21:16] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, which ones?
  2212. # [21:16] <RyanVM> the imptests that keep OOMing
  2213. # [21:16] <rillian> RyanVM: thanks. We think it's infrastructure then?
  2214. # [21:16] <RyanVM> rillian: build system
  2215. # [21:16] <bent> gps, does that address headers that need to be exported as a result of IPDL/WebIDL generation?
  2216. # [21:16] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, Range? Upstream has some fixes for that
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  2219. # [21:16] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: can you get them landed please?
  2220. # [21:16] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, I'll try to update that this week or so
  2221. # [21:16] <RyanVM> we were discussing that last week
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  2224. # [21:17] <RyanVM> we're getting to the point of just disabling the mess
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  2226. # [21:17] <gps> bent: ipdl and webidl are special
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  2228. # [21:17] <gps> the goal is to eliminate partial tree builds by getting no-op builds fast enough
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  2230. # [21:17] <gps> glandium has a patch set that's *really* close
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  2232. # [21:18] <bent> sure, but until full rebuilds are fast devs need functioning partial builds, right?
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  2236. # [21:19] <bent> i'm just trying to figure out the minimum i have to rebuild now to tweak IPDL files now
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  2238. # [21:21] <tbsaunde> make export && make -C whatever is what I ussually do
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  2242. # [21:21] <bent> tbsaunde, that no longer works
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  2249. # [21:23] <dzbarsky> reuben: did you figure out how to fix the -no-rtti thing?
  2250. # [21:24] <tbsaunde> bent: oh? I thought top level export still worked
  2251. # [21:24] <@ehsan> RyanVM: I have run https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/004effcc3ee3 through try, fwiw
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  2254. # [21:25] <RyanVM> ehsan: that issue predates your push
  2255. # [21:25] <@ehsan> oh
  2256. # [21:25] <@ehsan> phew
  2257. # [21:25] <RyanVM> i think it's needs-clobber silliness from this morning's merging
  2258. # [21:26] <RyanVM> all the more reason for why I maintain my "clobber before all merges" policy
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  2260. # [21:26] <bent> gps, so what's the minimum i need to do to regenerate exported IPDL headers and build in a subdirectory now?
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  2271. # [21:30] <msucan> akeybl: do you need a version of the patch from bug 905136 for the mozilla-beta repo?
  2272. # [21:31] <msucan> (asking because i'm not sure what an "uplift request" means in that context)
  2273. # [21:32] <akeybl> msucan: yep, along with a patch nomination for approval
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  2278. # [21:33] <qDot> I need some WebIDL help... The IDL compiler is yelling at me about "assert not rethrowContentException or not needThisHandling" on the following IDL: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3130557
  2279. # [21:34] <qDot> I'm not defining showAppNotification correctly, but I'm not exactly sure what I'm missing.
  2280. # [21:34] <msucan> akeybl: thank you. will do that asap
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  2283. # [21:35] <@bz> qDot: er... odd
  2284. # [21:35] <whimboo> bbondy: hi! are you in the mv network?
  2285. # [21:36] <bbondy> whimboo: nope I'm remote and don't have a vpn setup
  2286. # [21:36] <@bz> qdot: let me look, one sec
  2287. # [21:36] <mcsmurf> someone knows of a good JS syntax checker that works in vim or via web interface (and works fine with Mozilla jsm files!)?
  2288. # [21:36] <whimboo> bbondy: k, so i will attach the whole log to the bug then
  2289. # [21:36] <mcsmurf> I probably have a syntax error in a .jsm file, but Gecko/JS Console does not spot it (it just says the module is not defined, which is wrong since I only modified some functions)
  2290. # [21:36] <qDot> bz: Commenting out the function definition makes the error go away. :|
  2291. # [21:36] <bbondy> whimboo: thank you!
  2292. # [21:36] <@bz> qDot: function definition?
  2293. # [21:36] <mcsmurf> I've tried some syntax checker on the web, but it had a lot of problems with the code from the jsm file
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  2296. # [21:37] <qDot> Er, method declaration for showAppNotification.
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  2298. # [21:37] <@bz> qDot: any local changes
  2299. # [21:37] <whimboo> bbondy: its up
  2300. # [21:37] <qDot> bz: That pastebin is exactly as I have it now.
  2301. # [21:38] <@bz> qDot: I meant other local changes
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  2305. # [21:39] <qDot> Added it to the moz.build file. Everything else is out in c++ land.
  2306. # [21:39] <gps> bent: make -C ipc/ipdl
  2307. # [21:39] <@bsmedberg> or mach build ipc/ipdl right?
  2308. # [21:39] <bent> gps, that isn't enough somehow
  2309. # [21:39] <gps> bsmedberg: yeah, that would work too
  2310. # [21:39] <bent> gps, that i've tried
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  2313. # [21:40] <froydnj> bent: make -C ipc/ipdl ipdl ...not sure how the new headers are supposed to be installed now, though...
  2314. # [21:41] <bent> gps, I changed IPDL files, rebuilt in ipc/ipdl, the rebuilt in a subdir that used them, and the compiler still used old files
  2315. # [21:41] <bent> gps, then i did a toplevel build and the changes were seen
  2316. # [21:41] <gps> bent: mach build config/makefiles/precompile
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  2320. # [21:42] <bent> gps, that will... rebuild the ipdl files and export them?
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  2322. # [21:42] <gps> bent: and XPIDL and WebIDL
  2323. # [21:42] <gps> should only take a few seconds
  2324. # [21:42] <bent> ok, so i'd need to do that, then just rebuild in the subdir i'm working on?
  2325. # [21:42] <@bz> qdot: What's the stack?
  2326. # [21:42] <bent> or do i need to run an export somehow too?
  2327. # [21:43] <@bz> qdot: the python stack, that is
  2328. # [21:43] <gps> mach build config/makefiles/precompile export
  2329. # [21:43] <lightsofapollo> Can't build on OSX some error about AppleMP3Reader any clues?
  2330. # [21:44] <Yoric> lmandel: I didn't find anywhere to mention the title of the session.
  2331. # [21:44] <qDot> bz: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3130678 - D'oh, well, the whole compile log came with it but there you go.
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  2333. # [21:44] <@bz> qdot: that's fine. Loking
  2334. # [21:45] <qDot> Looks like my JSImplemented attribute is causing it to think I'm missing something, but I'm basically following the lead of other webidl files for this.
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  2336. # [21:46] <lmandel> Yoric: Yeah. Rereading the form I don't really see anywhere to provide a session description either.
  2337. # [21:46] <hub> should we get on the Pepper bandwagon too ? http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57604242-93/chrome-begins-barring-browser-plug-ins-from-chrome/
  2338. # [21:46] <hub> (the voice in me say ditch plugins all together, but...)
  2339. # [21:46] <@bz> qDot: thanks. totally a codegen bug. ;)
  2340. # [21:46] <lmandel> Yoric: Maybe fill that out as name of project?
  2341. # [21:46] <@bz> qdot: one sec
  2342. # [21:46] <Yoric> lmandel: That looks... weird.
  2343. # [21:47] <Yoric> lmandel: Plus I have already submitted the form.
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  2347. # [21:49] <rnewman> gps: it would be tragic if those ping pong paddles... kept getting lost, wouldn't it?
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  2349. # [21:49] <gfritzsche> hub: bug 729481 already was WONTFIXed before all the recent webapi progressions, so...
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  2352. # [21:49] <vlad> bsmedberg: I'm having a crash during mochitest-plain, one of the plugin tests
  2353. # [21:49] * baku|away is now known as baku
  2354. # [21:49] <kbrosnan> mbrubeck: would you have a cycle to look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=872650
  2355. # [21:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/696aca164b58 - Alexander Surkov - Bug 899433 - Accessibility returns empty line for last line in certain cases. r=tbsaunde, a=akeybl
  2356. # [21:49] <vlad> bsmedberg: I see "WARNING: shutting down early because of crash!: file PluginModuleChild.cpp"
  2357. # [21:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/1f83dbfd31f2 - Shane Caraveo - Bug 904104 - Fix window.close usage from chat and social panels. r=felipc, a=akeybl
  2358. # [21:50] <@bsmedberg> vlad: that's normal debug spew from a plugin process
  2359. # [21:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/40d5f2078ca9 - Marco Castelluccio - Bug 859631 - Move test_uninstall_errors to dom/apps and avoid UI confirmation. r=fabrice, a=test-only
  2360. # [21:50] <vlad> bsmedberg: is there any way to get the actual child process to not crash silently? I'm on windows
  2361. # [21:50] <lmandel> Yoric: I wouldn't worry about it. All of the submissions are reviewed.
  2362. # [21:50] <@bsmedberg> if the parent died
  2363. # [21:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ed7ce69c6603 - Olli Pettay - Bug 918223 - Make sure to save persdict.dat. r=ehsan, a=akeybl
  2364. # [21:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ef213b06605e - Milan Sreckovic - Bug 899861 - Animated gifs should not wait to play until fully downloaded. This is a partial backout of 717872 with the intent to re-enable using the separate FrameAnimator
  2365. # [21:50] <@bsmedberg> vlad: other than removing that warning? no
  2366. # [21:50] <vlad> bsmedberg: parent == the plugin, in this case?
  2367. # [21:50] <lmandel> Yoric: I will ping some people to let them know your feedback about the form though.
  2368. # [21:50] <@bsmedberg> parent == firefox
  2369. # [21:50] <firebot> class. Hide the new approach behind #define USE_FRAME_ANIMATOR for now. r=bgirard, a=akeybl
  2370. # [21:50] <mbrubeck> kbrosnan: Okay, I'll take a look... I am really not familiar with this spec though, so I'll have to start by reading the spec. :/
  2371. # [21:50] <vlad> oh so firefox crashed
  2372. # [21:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/eda4dbed18fe - Brad Lassey - Bug 918645 - Rash in java.lang.SecurityException: WifiService: Neither user 10061 nor current process has android.permission.ACCESS_WIFI_STATE. at
  2373. # [21:50] <vlad> that's strange, ok
  2374. # [21:50] <vlad> I can debug that
  2375. # [21:50] <firebot> android.os.Parcel.readException(Parcel.java r=mcmanus, a=akeybl
  2376. # [21:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2def7ab553b5 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 899296 - Restore bytecode-level constant folding in lazily compiled functions. r=jorendorff, a=akeybl
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  2378. # [21:50] <kbrosnan> mbrubeck: nm, then who at mozilla would be a good person to ask?
  2379. # [21:50] <@bz> qdot: working on a fix
  2380. # [21:51] <kbrosnan> or outside even
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  2383. # [21:51] <qDot> bz: Awesome, thanks!
  2384. # [21:51] <mbrubeck> kbrosnan: I'll see if I can figure anything out first; if not I'll pass it on to... someone.
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  2386. # [21:52] <vlad> bsmedberg: which summit are you going to btw?
  2387. # [21:52] <@bsmedberg> brussels
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  2391. # [21:53] <sproing> I am looking for an open-souce developer who can help me in completing my survey (5 minutes)
  2392. # [21:53] <hub> gfritzsche: well, I commented on that bug.
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  2401. # [21:55] <sproing> well .. Here is the link in case any OSS developer is willing to help ... [http://tinyurl.com/n8ghfy8]
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  2405. # [21:55] <kats> davidb: ping
  2406. # [21:55] <davidb> kats: hey
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  2408. # [21:55] * davidb has 2 mins
  2409. # [21:55] <kats> davidb: hey, i had a question about keyboard input
  2410. # [21:55] <@ehsan> BenWa: 879cf32d8a6f
  2411. # [21:56] <davidb> kats: sounds exciting
  2412. # [21:56] <kats> if you have focus on a select element and hit the up/down arrow keys, it changes the focused item
  2413. # [21:56] <kats> do you know where is the code that does that?
  2414. # [21:56] <kats> i was grepping like crazy and didn't find anything
  2415. # [21:56] <davidb> kats: Enn would know...
  2416. # [21:56] <davidb> unless you mean a11y focus?
  2417. # [21:56] <davidb> surkov: ^
  2418. # [21:56] <davidb> sorry i have to find a phone room rsn
  2419. # [21:56] <kats> ok, thanks
  2420. # [21:56] <davidb> np
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  2422. # [21:57] <surkov> kats: are you about accessible focus or selected item change?
  2423. # [21:58] <kats> surkov: i think selected item change, but i'm curious about accessible focus as well
  2424. # [21:58] <@bz> qdot: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3130734
  2425. # [21:58] <@bz> qdot: try that
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  2427. # [21:59] <surkov> kats: all a11y focus related things are managed by a11y::FocusManager
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  2435. # [22:00] <kats> surkov: i was looking at that code, but i didn't understand the code flow in there
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  2437. # [22:00] <qDot> bz: Seems to work, in as much as compile continues. Thanks!
  2438. # [22:00] <kats> does it listen for input events itself? or does it have to be notified?
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  2440. # [22:00] <@bz> qdot: no problem. Mind filing a bug on me?
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  2443. # [22:01] <qDot> bz: Sure
  2444. # [22:01] <surkov> kats: you need to see where HTML select fires DOMMenuItemActive element to see how it handles selection changes, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/forms/nsListControlFrame.cpp#1685
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  2447. # [22:02] <surkov> kats: the idea of a11y::FocusManager is quite simple, it listens for focus/selection related notifications from layout and DOM and then fires a11y focus events
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  2450. # [22:02] <kats> ah ok, i think the code i was looking for is in nsListControlFrame::KeyDown
  2451. # [22:03] <kats> thank you for pointing me to it!
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  2457. # [22:05] * froydnj thinks "mozilla plans to block npapi plugins" is not exactly truthful in chrome's usage
  2458. # [22:05] <KWierso> gfritzsche: ping
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  2460. # [22:06] <qDot> bz: bug 919705
  2461. # [22:06] <gfritzsche> KWierso: pong
  2462. # [22:06] <KWierso|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=28242698&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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  2465. # [22:08] <philor> nice screenshot
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  2469. # [22:09] <gps> dcamp: mind if I swing by to pester you IRL?
  2470. # [22:09] <gfritzsche> KWierso|sheriffduty: what about it?
  2471. # [22:10] <dcamp> gps: I don't mind
  2472. # [22:10] <KWierso|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: happened twice on your push
  2473. # [22:10] <gfritzsche> KWierso|sheriffduty: hm, i don't see this being related to my pushes today
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  2477. # [22:11] <KWierso|sheriffduty> make that five times on your push
  2478. # [22:11] <gfritzsche> huh
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  2484. # [22:12] <gfritzsche> KWierso|sheriffduty: weird - both commits were fine on try
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  2488. # [22:14] <gfritzsche> KWierso|sheriffduty: oh, hang on
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  2491. # [22:14] <gfritzsche> it probably depended on a stale state from a browser test
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  2493. # [22:14] <gfritzsche> yay :(
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  2497. # [22:15] <KWierso|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: something easy to fix, or should you come out?
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  2503. # [22:16] <gfritzsche> KWierso|sheriffduty: easy fix, but should probably do it & get review tomorrow
  2504. # [22:16] <gaston> gps: any other idea or things to look at in my objdir for 917753 ?
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  2506. # [22:17] <gfritzsche> KWierso|sheriffduty: back out bug 790483 please... sorry, should have done a full try run on that one
  2507. # [22:18] <KWierso|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: on it
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  2511. # [22:19] <Yoric> lmandel: thanks
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  2521. # [22:23] <sicking> dcamp: got a few minutes? Since you're here in SF and all?
  2522. # [22:23] <dcamp> sicking: sure, what's up?
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  2526. # [22:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46138d38c249 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 8677a18553e7 (bug 790483) for m-oth failure on a CLOSED TREE
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  2535. # [22:29] <reuben> dzbarsky: --enable-cpp-rtti is a workaround
  2536. # [22:29] <reuben> (requires reconfigure)
  2537. # [22:29] <dzbarsky> reuben: meh, building with apple clang also works
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  2545. # [22:32] <+anton> does anyone else can't build fx-team? i get sed: Command garbled: s/\([\"\]\)/\\\1/g; s/@\([^@]*\)@/$(\1)/g; and make: Warning: File `obj-x86_64-apple-darwin12.4.0/.mkdir.done' has modification time 2e+11 s in the future
  2546. # [22:32] <+anton> and then ./configure fails
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  2555. # [22:33] <mbrubeck> I feel bad for laughing at anton's errors
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  2557. # [22:34] <+anton> :(((
  2558. # [22:34] <mbrubeck> anton: Is your computer's clock set correctly? Does that file indeed have a modified date in the future?
  2559. # [22:34] <mcsmurf> heh
  2560. # [22:34] <mbrubeck> 2e11 seconds is 6300 years
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  2562. # [22:35] <+anton> mbrubeck: yep
  2563. # [22:35] <+anton> clock is fine
  2564. # [22:35] <+anton> but the modified date is in future
  2565. # [22:35] <+anton> i have no idea why tho
  2566. # [22:35] <@gavin> the warning probably doesn't matter
  2567. # [22:35] <@gavin> can you post a full log?
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  2569. # [22:36] <+anton> gavin: mbrubeck: http://pastebin.com/RAMzFQkx
  2570. # [22:36] <@gavin> o_O
  2571. # [22:36] <mbrubeck> I'd try clobbering
  2572. # [22:36] <@gavin> yeah
  2573. # [22:36] <mbrubeck> If you haven't already
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  2575. # [22:37] <@gavin> also maybe getting a new computer
  2576. # [22:37] <+anton> i have
  2577. # [22:37] <+anton> >_<
  2578. # [22:37] <@gavin> throw that one out the window
  2579. # [22:38] <Ms2ger> Set it on fire
  2580. # [22:38] <Ms2ger> Maybe that helps
  2581. # [22:38] <mbrubeck> anton: The 'sed' error is from http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/autoconf/mozconfig2client-mk for reference
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  2585. # [22:39] <mbrubeck> So it happens when processing your .mozconfig
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  2587. # [22:40] <mbrubeck> glandium touched that code recently, though the sed line hasn't changed: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/34ca46861c28
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  2590. # [22:41] <mbrubeck> Maybe your 'sed' has been replaced with an unsupported version or something..?
  2591. # [22:42] <+anton> so the only thing i changed
  2592. # [22:42] <+anton> is i added /usr/local/bin to my PATH
  2593. # [22:42] <+anton> i think this is what's causing it
  2594. # [22:42] <mbrubeck> What does 'which sed' print?
  2595. # [22:42] <+anton> but without /usr/local/bin my python is too old
  2596. # [22:42] <@gavin> do you ahve a weird sed installed there?
  2597. # [22:42] <+anton> god damn
  2598. # [22:42] <+anton> yeah i think so
  2599. # [22:43] <+anton> m-c (codemirror) ☭ which sed
  2600. # [22:43] <+anton> /usr/local/plan9/bin/sed
  2601. # [22:43] <@gavin> brew banish weirdsed
  2602. # [22:43] <+anton> -.-
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  2604. # [22:43] <@gavin> (that is not a real command)
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  2607. # [22:44] <+anton> yeah that was it
  2608. # [22:44] <+anton> thanks everyone
  2609. # [22:44] <+anton> god damnit plan9
  2610. # [22:45] <+anton> already dead and still messes things up
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  2629. # [22:55] <@gavin> for some reason I always type :bzbarsky, and fail
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  2631. # [22:55] <@gavin> one day I will learn that it's either :bz or bzbarsky
  2632. # [22:57] <jcranmer> try cc'ing :NeilAway and wondering why that fails
  2633. # [22:57] <gaston> is he even sometimes not away ? :)
  2634. # [22:57] <jcranmer> I think I may have once submitted a patch r=NeilAway
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  2694. # [23:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d33e1297c557 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 915735 - Part 1: Work around a bug in the MSVC PGO instrumented builds which prevents xpcshell to run successfully as a host tool during builds; r=sfink
  2695. # [23:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/793b9afc6332 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 919505 - Minimize the #includes in dom/ipc; r=jst
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  2698. # [23:33] <Hixie> bz: (re the thread) yeah. i dunno what to do really.
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  2703. # [23:35] <@bz> Hixie: <shrug>
  2704. # [23:35] <@bz> Hixie: it's falling low on my priority list: we'll just implement something and move on. :(
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  2710. # [23:36] <Hixie> bz: yeah, that's probably the best thing for now. since none of the browsers match it's hard to know what the right thing is anyway.
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  2713. # [23:36] <@bz_dinner> hixie: and the fact that getting any response from the other ua vendors is impossible doesn't help...
  2714. # [23:37] <Hixie> bz_dinner: there's a few more focused bugs still tracking related stuff, i'll keep trying to follow up on those and see where that takes us, hopefully the fixes to those will fix the WindwoProxy stuff as well eventually
  2715. # [23:37] <@bz_dinner> hixie: I think it would be best if the spec were explicit about this stuff being undefiend for now, I guess
  2716. # [23:37] <@bz_dinner> hixie: or something.
  2717. # [23:37] * @bz_dinner goes to get dinner for real
  2718. # [23:37] <Hixie> bz_dinner: yeah, i'll add a note. part of the issue is i'm not really 100% sure what's not defined. :-)
  2719. # [23:38] <vlad> can I disable the timeout when running mochitests?
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  2722. # [23:41] <RyanVM> ehsan: is msvc2013 going to allow x64->x32 cross-compiles?
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  2724. # [23:41] <@ehsan> RyanVM: yes
  2725. # [23:41] <RyanVM> ehsan: niiice
  2726. # [23:42] <@ehsan> yep!
  2727. # [23:42] <RyanVM> wonder what made MS change course on that
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  2730. # [23:42] <@ehsan> we're not the only people affected by the PGO memory usage issue!
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  2732. # [23:42] <@ehsan> I imagine everybody with a large enough code base was hitting the same problem
  2733. # [23:43] <@ehsan> apparently they had a team of engineers tasked with fixing this problem
  2734. # [23:43] <RyanVM> wow
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  2736. # [23:43] <tbsaunde> so somebody came up with a dump truck full of cash and drove it to MS?
  2737. # [23:44] <tbsaunde> a team of engineers? how hard is it to make your compiler able to cross compile (and even really that)
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  2739. # [23:44] <@ehsan> they also accept credit cards ;)
  2740. # [23:44] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: oh no, that's not the issue I'm talking about
  2741. # [23:45] <@ehsan> the linker already knows how to munmap pages when it's running out of address space
  2742. # [23:45] <tbsaunde> dump trucks full of cash are much more lulzy though
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  2744. # [23:45] <@ehsan> it's just that the PGO compiler's allocator did not know to tell the linker memory manager about that when allocating stuff
  2745. # [23:45] <@ehsan> so it would OOM there
  2746. # [23:46] <tbsaunde> sure, how has that related to making your compiler able to cross compile should be trivial?
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  2755. # [23:49] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: those are two different problems
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  2758. # [23:50] <RyanVM> ehsan: oh, so we're not cross compiling then? They just fixed the OOM issue
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  2760. # [23:50] <@ehsan> how hard the cross compiling part is depends on your code
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  2762. # [23:50] <@ehsan> RyanVM: nope, they fixed the cross compiler ;)
  2763. # [23:50] <@ehsan> which will give us what we wanrt
  2764. # [23:50] * RyanVM was just curious how vc2013 is fixing everything
  2765. # [23:50] <RyanVM> ok, cool
  2766. # [23:50] <@ehsan> by providing is with a huge address space!
  2767. # [23:50] <@ehsan> that's how ^
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  2769. # [23:51] <RyanVM> ok, nice :)
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  2771. # [23:51] <RyanVM> so is gkmedia.dll going away too theN?
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  2775. # [23:52] <@ehsan> possibly
  2776. # [23:53] <RyanVM> mmm, and maybe full NSS folding?
  2777. # [23:53] * RyanVM imagines the possibilities
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  2780. # [23:54] <mwu> no more FIPS. \o/
  2781. # [23:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f36185787040 - David Zbarsky - Bug 879475: Allocing an actor for a bridged or opened protocol should return bool r=jlebar
  2782. # [23:54] <@ehsan> RyanVM: if you're interested in folding stuff into libxul, you should know that I'm trying to fold js into libxul for now ;)
  2783. # [23:54] <RyanVM> yeah, I was reading the bugs
  2784. # [23:55] <RyanVM> just curious how far you planned to take it
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  2786. # [23:56] <@ehsan> RyanVM: my interests are limited to js for now ;)
  2787. # [23:57] <@ehsan> RyanVM: especially since the PGO compiler is kicking and screaming
  2788. # [23:57] <@ehsan> it has very sharp teeth
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  2790. # [23:57] <tbsaunde> ehsan: are you trying with 2010 now or 2013?
  2791. # [23:58] <dvander> dzbarsky1, ping
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  2793. # [23:58] <dzbarsky1> dvander: hi
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  2795. # [23:58] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: 2010
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  2803. # [23:59] <tbsaunde> and you're stilling seeing crazy codegen bugs that's pretty crazy!
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  2806. # [23:59] <dvander> dzbarsky, hey. it looks like recently you landed a patch that changed message names related to the "opens" syntax in ipdl
  2807. # [23:59] <dzbarsky> yes
  2808. # [23:59] <dzbarsky> that was about a month ago
  2809. # [23:59] <dvander> dzbarsky, that caused the TestOpens ipdl test to start failing, it crashes with an unrecognized message. do you know if that test is bogus now or need to be tweaked?
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