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# [00:00] <Mossop> gps: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3147686. I also tried just "make install-tests". That seemed to do something except that it completely broke all my tests
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# [00:01] <gps> Mossop: the NO_REMOVE bit is important
# [00:01] <gps> you now need to do a toplevel rebuild to restore all the files
# [00:02] <Mossop> What NO_REMOVE bit?
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# [00:04] <Mossop> I guess I'll get to find out if this one line change to a test helped in about an hour then
# [00:04] <gps> Mossop: NO_REMOVE environment variable
# [00:04] <gps> NO_REMOVE=1 make install-tests
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# [00:14] <glandium> someone around has a fresh windows objdir?
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# [00:15] <RyanVM> glandium: ?
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# [00:16] <glandium> RyanVM: could you paste the content of $objdir/browser/app/.deps/firefox.exe.pp ?
# [00:17] <RyanVM> firefox.exe : ..\..\dist\lib\mozglue.lib nsBrowserApp.obj module.res ..\..\dist\lib\xpcomglue.lib
# [00:17] <RyanVM> ..\..\dist\lib\mozglue.lib :
# [00:17] <RyanVM> nsBrowserApp.obj :
# [00:17] <RyanVM> module.res :
# [00:17] <RyanVM> ..\..\dist\lib\xpcomglue.lib :
# [00:17] <glandium> RyanVM: thanks
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# [00:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/acfa7e48b7f2 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 5 changesets (bug 905493, bug 920125, bug 919603) for mochitest orange on a CLOSED TREE.
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# [00:29] <mjrosenb> ted: blassey: mbrubeck: any of you mind if I remove the armv6 alias for Bug 697205?
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# [00:36] <@njn> glandium: with your |mach build binaries| patch, if I touch js/src/jsbool.cpp and rebuild, libxul gets rebuilt -- that doesn't seem right
# [00:37] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: gonna guess that the reftest orange on inbound is from dbaron
# [00:37] <glandium> njn: are you building with --enable-shared-js?
# [00:37] <@njn> glandium: not that I know of
# [00:37] <@dbaron> RyanVM, which?
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# [00:37] <@dbaron> RyanVM, I had a green try run yesterday
# [00:37] <glandium> njn: then it's completely right, js is statically linked in libxul
# [00:37] <RyanVM> dbaron: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=28369583&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [00:37] <RyanVM> fuzz :(
# [00:37] <@dbaron> RyanVM, which platform is that?
# [00:37] <@njn> glandium: it is? oh. libxul is rebuilt before libjs_static.a
# [00:38] <RyanVM> dbaron: Rev5 MacOSX Mountain Lion 10.8 mozilla-inbound debug
# [00:38] <glandium> njn: that sounds weird
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# [00:39] <@njn> glandium: this patch is making me nervous :/
# [00:40] <glandium> njn: you can always build normally if it fails you
# [00:40] <glandium> njn: that's also why i needed a guinea pig ;)
# [00:41] <@njn> glandium: no-change builds are clearly faster, but that's not a terribly interesting case...
# [00:41] <@dbaron> RyanVM, ok, I'll mark it fuzzy-if
# [00:41] <@dbaron> RyanVM, the Ahem font really shouldn't lead to results like that...
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# [00:41] <glandium> njn: builds with change should be faster too.
# [00:42] <@njn> glandium: I'll do some timings
# [00:42] <glandium> njn: if changing js/src/jsbool.cpp doesn't rebuild libxul without the patch, then there's something seriously wrong
# [00:42] <@njn> glandium: it does, though I had another JS-only change that didn't seem to -- it was really fast, only took ~5 seconds
# [00:42] <@njn> glandium: I'll try to reproduce it
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# [00:43] <glandium> njn: the dependency with js might be off
# [00:43] <glandium> njn: changing a header will work without a doubt, but with sources, i'm not entirely sure
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# [00:45] <blassey> mjrosenb: no objection
# [00:45] <glandium> njn: js is a special, kind of sucky case
# [00:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c577bd421ea - L. David Baron - Followup to bug 828312 patch 9a: Mark test as fuzzy-if on Mac OS X 10.8, where the Ahem font is behaving in ways it shouldn't. CLOSED TREE
# [00:46] <@njn> glandium: and one that I will hammer on :)
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# [00:47] <glandium> njn: try adding "toolkit/library/binaries: js/src/binaries" in top-level Makefile.in
# [00:48] <@dbaron> RyanVM, KWierso|sheriffduty, fuzzy-if landed ^
# [00:48] <KWierso|sheriffduty> yay
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# [00:52] <@dbaron> RyanVM, which is amusing, because until a week or two ago I was doing all my single-platform try runs on 10.8
# [00:52] <@dbaron> RyanVM, but I switched to Linux64 because of the backup on 10.8
# [00:52] <RyanVM> dbaron: heh, figures
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# [00:52] <RyanVM> dbaron: on the bright side, the opt run had the same failure
# [00:52] <@dbaron> RyanVM, yes, saw that
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# [00:58] <dholbert> Do we officially require a c++11-friendly compiler to build now?
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# [00:59] <dholbert> I guess we have "static_assert" all over the place, which is C++11, so "probably" i guess
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# [01:00] <dholbert> ah yes, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=894242
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# [01:15] <josh> Is bug 846931 why Firefox is not supported for folder upload in Google Drive?
# [01:16] <fabrice> smaug: what do you mean by "And -w patch will help reviewing." ?
# [01:17] <bent> fabrice, |diff -w| ignores whitespace changes
# [01:17] <bent> maybe he thought that would make a nicer patch
# [01:17] <gwagner> bz_dinner: ping
# [01:17] <fabrice> bent: ha
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# [01:18] <gwagner> mccr8: ping
# [01:18] <josh> sicking: ^
# [01:18] <mccr8> gwagner: pong
# [01:18] <gwagner> mccr8: any idea about http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3147965
# [01:18] <@smaug> fabrice: yeah, you're just doing lots of whitespace changess
# [01:18] <@smaug> -s
# [01:19] <gwagner> mccr8: is this binding specific or the function that the binding calls?
# [01:19] <fabrice> smaug: I don't think I'm making whitespace changes, but there's an indentation change for a big block
# [01:19] <mccr8> gwagner: what do you mean? ConstructJSImplementation is a template thing ms2ger introduced
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# [01:19] <@smaug> fabrice: that is whitespace change :)
# [01:19] <mccr8> oh maybe not a template
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# [01:20] <mccr8> gwagner: that method creates the JS-implemented WebIDL object
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# [01:21] <gwagner> mccr8: and the assertion?
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# [01:21] <mccr8> oh right, sorry , I missed that
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# [01:22] <mccr8> gwagner: so, with the XPIDL based stuff for implementing things using JS, the return code indicates all sorts of things, but for JS-implemented WebIDL we ignore all of those things, so we assert in an attempt to detect when you might think something is happening but it isn't
# [01:23] <gwagner> mccr8: well why are we not in a request
# [01:23] <@roc> fabrice: do you know if we have any code that triggers scrolling based on touch events *on the main thread*?
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# [01:24] <mccr8> gwagner: you mean, your init method returns a non-undefined value if we're not in a request? where's the code live?
# [01:25] <fabrice> roc: the js scroller does that
# [01:25] <fabrice> in dom/browser-element/BrowserElementPanning.js
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# [01:25] <gwagner> mccr8: I don't know. I just saw this on current trunk
# [01:25] <fabrice> roc: we are trying to improve it in bug 914854
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# [01:26] <mccr8> gwagner: ah ok, I'll try to find it... maybe somebody recently ported it over to JS implemented WebIDL and didn't clear out all the return values
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# [01:27] <@smaug> ted: is there some easy way to disable crashreporter and just have the "waiting for 300seconds....do blaah to attach to debugger"?
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# [01:28] <@roc> fabrice: ah right thanks!
# [01:29] <fabrice> roc: I'd really like to get rid of that and use apz everywhere
# [01:29] <@roc> yes
# [01:29] <@roc> however
# [01:29] <@njn> http://firefoxosguide.com/, huhg
# [01:29] <@njn> *huh
# [01:30] <@roc> I'm wondering whether it would be OK to let the main thread be responsible for initiating panning/zooming in some cases
# [01:30] <mccr8> gwagner: so, it looks like InputMethod returns NULL if it doesn't have permission. http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/ca0ebcc15702/b2g/components/MozKeyboard.js#l334
# [01:30] <mccr8> assuming that's the same thing...
# [01:30] <@roc> because that would simplify things a lot
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# [01:31] <bent> smaug, bug 901746 and bug 901753 maybe
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# [01:31] <@smaug> no
# [01:31] <mccr8> gwagner: looks like bug 899073 moved it to WebIDL
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# [01:32] <gwagner> mccr8: I guess this is no longer allowed with webidl?
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# [01:32] <mccr8> gwagner: yeah. unfortunately I don't remember offhand the right way to deal with this, if there is one... hmm.
# [01:32] <mccr8> gwagner: I can file a bug about it if you'd like
# [01:33] <gwagner> mccr8: gdb just jumped to another stack so I am confused. the current one shows MOZ_ASSERT(js::IsInRequest(cx));
# [01:33] <gwagner> mccr8: let me try to reproduce it again but I guess the return null is definitely a problem
# [01:33] <gwagner> mccr8: sure go ahead. thx!
# [01:33] <mccr8> gwagner: well, the stack trace you showed me was the one about returning something besides undefined. :)
# [01:34] <gwagner> mccr8: yeah gdb also showed me http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3148021
# [01:34] <seth> cpeterson: re: that bug you filed, heh, i should test on the internal display of my laptop more =)
# [01:34] <seth> cpeterson: dang retina!
# [01:34] <gwagner> mccr8: I am not sure if this is related or not
# [01:34] <mccr8> gwagner: weird, I'm not sure what that is.
# [01:35] <cpeterson> seth: I seem to find a lot of Retina/HiDPI problems. Someone suggested that we run some OSX testers in simulated Retina mode.
# [01:36] <gwagner> mccr8: good I can reproduce it: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3148023
# [01:36] <gwagner> mccr8: seems like they show up at the same time
# [01:36] <mccr8> gwagner: strange...
# [01:36] <seth> cpeterson: there's an existing bug about getting the tests green in retina mode, which i think is a blocker for that
# [01:36] <gwagner> mccr8: I guess the request one is fatal
# [01:37] <seth> cpeterson: i have a patch in my patch queue that displays retina rendering which i have to use when running tests on the internal display =\
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# [01:37] <gwagner> mccr8: is this more bz_dinner land?
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# [01:37] <cpeterson> seth: displays retina rendering or disables retina rendering?
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# [01:38] <seth> cpeterson: disables
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# [01:38] <mccr8> gwagner: js::IsInRequest sounds more like bholley
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# [01:38] <mccr8> gwagner: I think it means something like, we're trying to touch JS in some way, but we're not properly set up to do so
# [01:39] <gwagner> right
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# [01:39] <mccr8> gwagner: ok.
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# [01:49] <marco> glandium: ping
# [01:50] <glandium> marco: pong
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# [01:51] <@njn> glandium: |mach build binaries| didn't recognize when I needed to clobber
# [01:51] <marco> glandium: in bug 762833 you propose to build the webapp runtime as part of the platform
# [01:51] <glandium> njn: define needed to clobber
# [01:51] <marco> does this mean building it for every application?
# [01:52] <marco> I think we need/want it only with Firefox
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# [01:52] <glandium> marco: why?
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# [01:54] <glandium> njn: 920818?
# [01:54] <marco> glandium: the runtime is used only with Firefox
# [01:55] <@njn> glandium: aborting with the "The CLOBBER file has been updated..." message
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# [01:56] <glandium> njn: you mean it doesn't abort?
# [01:56] <@njn> glandium: correct
# [01:56] <@njn> glandium: it just tried to build and failed
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# [01:56] <glandium> marco: that's a non sequitur
# [01:56] <glandium> njn: what kind of failure?
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# [01:57] <@njn> glandium: /home/njn/moz/mi4/xpcom/base/nsMemoryReporterManager.h:26:14: error: no type named 'InfallibleAmountFn' in namespace 'mozilla'
# [01:57] <@njn> 0:10.45 mozilla::InfallibleAmountFn mJSMainRuntimeGCHeap;
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# [01:57] <@njn> glandium: and a few others very similar to that one
# [01:57] <glandium> njn: did you clobber already?
# [01:58] <@njn> glandium: yes, doing a normal build ATM
# [01:58] <glandium> njn: do you know from what changeset to what changeset you updated?
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# [01:59] <@njn> glandium: no, sorry... but those errors relate to bug 913260's patches, which may have been part of the update (and they needed a clobber when they landed on m-i)
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# [01:59] <marco> glandium: only Firefox provides the means necessary to install webapps and the webapp runtime depends on the Firefox webapps registry
# [01:59] <glandium> njn: that being said, since mach build binaries only builds, well, binaries, it's still better to do a full build after an hg update, since there are likely js changes in what you updated to
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# [02:00] <glandium> js, or xul, etc.
# [02:00] <@njn> glandium: ah
# [02:01] <marco> so, at the moment, it can't be used by other products other than Firefox
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# [02:02] <glandium> marco: i can very much see seamonkey supporting it at some point.
# [02:03] <glandium> marco: also, i want it to work on ff-on-xr
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# [02:04] <marco> ok, I'll try to create a patch
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# [02:04] <@njn> RyanVM: I just ran my new "copy patches to an m-c repo and push to try from there" script for the first time :)
# [02:04] <marco> how can I build ff-on-xr?
# [02:04] <glandium> marco: a patch for what?
# [02:04] <glandium> marco: http://glandium.org/blog/?p=1258
# [02:04] <marco> a patch to build the webapp runtime in the platform
# [02:05] <marco> thanks
# [02:05] <marco> there's still the branding issue to solve
# [02:05] <glandium> marco: building the webapp runtime in the platform is not hard. In fact, it should be mostly a one-liner. The problem is the branding thing
# [02:06] <marco> glandium: can't we solve the branding thing in another bug?
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# [02:07] <marco> the branding thing is only affecting some secondary toolkit modules
# [02:07] <glandium> marco: there's not much point in moving the runtime to the platform is that means the branding issue is unsolvable
# [02:07] <glandium> if
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# [02:07] <glandium> which we don't know
# [02:08] <glandium> so we'd better know what to do about branding before doing anything else
# [02:08] <alungu1> bz: ping
# [02:08] <marco> ok
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# [02:09] <marco> it's a tough one
# [02:09] <marco> because sometimes we want the Firefox branding
# [02:09] <marco> sometimes a webapp custom branding
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# [02:10] <marco> the custom branding should be easy to have, we could create the branding files and load them at runtime
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# [02:11] <marco> creating an alias
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# [02:14] <marco> the problem is that we can't have both brandings at the same time
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# [02:15] <@njn> glandium: |mach build binaries| got confused when I renamed js/src/jsmemorymetrics.cpp as js/src/vm/MemoryMetrics.cpp
# [02:16] <@njn> glandium: "make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/home/njn/moz/mi4/js/src/jsmemorymetrics.cpp', needed by `jsmemorymetrics.o'. Stop."
# [02:16] <glandium> njn: you didn't change moz.build did you?
# [02:16] <@njn> glandium: nope
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# [02:17] <glandium> njn: you'd have the same problem with mach build ;)
# [02:17] <@njn> glandium: er, it's working fine
# [02:17] <@njn> glandium: oh, sorry, I did change moz.build
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# [02:21] <marco> glandium: we could even load Firefox's branding at runtime, if we know the Firefox installation directory
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# [02:24] <glandium> njn: you're good at finding broken cases :)
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# [02:24] <@njn> :)
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# [02:35] <mina> which channel would I find Josh Aas in?
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# [02:37] <mina> thanks
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# [02:48] <RyanVM> dbaron, up for another spot fix? :)
# [02:48] <@dbaron> RyanVM, eh?
# [02:49] <RyanVM> android R3 on inbound tip
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# [02:49] <@dbaron> RyanVM, sure... I think it's also time to reopen once I land it
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# [02:49] <RyanVM> sgtm
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# [02:51] <@dbaron> RyanVM, and that looks like the only platform on which we run Android reftests, right?
# [02:51] <@dbaron> RyanVM, no android 4.0 reftests, looks like?
# [02:52] <RyanVM> correct
# [02:52] <@dbaron> (well, there's 2.2 and 2.2/armv6)
# [02:52] <RyanVM> dbaron: 4.0 runs on cedar, but not very well
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# [02:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e64ed43f90ad - L. David Baron - Followup to bug 828312 patch 9a: Mark test as fuzzy-if on Android. CLOSED TREE
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# [02:57] <KWierso|sheriffduty> RyanVM: you opening or shall I?
# [02:57] <@dbaron> sorry about that
# [02:57] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: go for it
# [02:57] <@dbaron> I thought the Ahem font was more reliable across platforms than it turns out to be...
# [02:57] <RyanVM> dbaron: relative to the other festivites, it's small potatoes :P :)
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# [02:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c6b505d1cc4 - Byron Campen [:bwc] - Bug 842549 - Part 4: Small fix from ekr to disarm the trickle_cb when the ICE ctx is destroyed. r=abr
# [02:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe35cf0e4c07 - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 842549 - Part 5: Fix slots cleanup when VcmSIPCCBinding is destroyed r=ekr
# [02:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e79cae6e6d15 - EKR - Bug 842549 - Part 1: Generate trickle candidates from nICEr, with testing r=abr
# [02:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d0c10c47ac5 - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 919767 - Clean up Call and CallInfo when finished r=ehugg
# [02:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f5b5ef7db30 - EKR - Bug 842549 - Part 2: Plumb candidates up to signaling r=abr
# [02:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5f86863efc43 - EKR - Bug 842549 - Part 3: PC.js changes for trickle r=abr
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# [03:08] <Jesse> tbsaunde: i'm not sure Glenn Adams was trying to sneak in DRM, but i'm suspicious because of his pro-EME posts, e.g. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Feb/0148.html
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# [03:09] <@smaug> of course Glenn Adams wants to get drm
# [03:09] <tbsaunde> Jesse: yeah, but even if that wasn't his goal what he wants seems pretty obviously crazy
# [03:10] <Jesse> smaug: do you think that's what was happening in https://twitter.com/jruderman/status/383033072943259648 ?
# [03:10] <Jesse> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23357
# [03:10] <Jesse> i didn't know anything about him until i saw https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23357 and started googling his name
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# [03:10] <Jesse> what do you know about him?
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# [03:12] <@smaug> well, the email you linked tells quite a bit
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# [03:14] <@bz> KWierso|sheriffduty: Thank you
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# [03:14] <KWierso|sheriffduty> bz: yep
# [03:15] <tbsaunde> smaug: to be a little fair I think he's sent less damming emails
# [03:15] <@bz> KWierso|sheriffduty: I'm going to spot-check that my fix fixes those oranges and reland, if that's ok
# [03:15] <KWierso|sheriffduty> works for me
# [03:16] <KWierso|sheriffduty> there were several more failures than I linked to in the backout message
# [03:16] <KWierso|sheriffduty> just for the record
# [03:16] <@bz> KWierso|sheriffduty: Yeah, I'm looking at tbpl
# [03:16] <@bz> KWierso|sheriffduty: M2, M3, bc, Moth
# [03:16] <KWierso|sheriffduty> but they mostly all looked like the same thing
# [03:16] <@bz> yep
# [03:16] <@bz> They would be
# [03:16] <@bz> assignments to document.location
# [03:17] <@bz> _not_ via an xray, of course. ;)
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# [03:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c492947e1d53 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 918809 - Remove unsused script argument of XDRStaticBlockObject. r=luke
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# [03:21] <Jesse> i don't understand why people feel the need to make dishonest arguments in favor of EME. just say you don't think DRM is going away and believe a narrowly scoped API is less likely to lead to security holes than the status quo.
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# [03:24] <@bz> Jesse: some people make that argument
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# [03:25] <Jesse> heck, maybe a narrowly scoped API will lead to competition that drives out the most user-hostile DRM implementations
# [03:25] <tbsaunde> Jesse: yeah, I don't like that argument at all, but atleast I can respect you for it a little
# [03:26] <@bz> jesse: some people make that argument too
# [03:26] <Jesse> i suspect those things are true, but i'm not sure it's enough to make me think EME is a good idea
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# [03:26] <@bz> jesse: I think as EME is designed right now the latter argument is false
# [03:27] <@bz> jesse: because it's not set up to encourage competition
# [03:27] <@bz> jesse: in particular, it's not speccing an API for the browser to talk to the DRM module
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# [03:27] <@bz> jesse: which, sadly, is also the problem with the first half of the argument. :(
# [03:28] <@bz> jesse: if EME _were_ speccing that, it would be much much better.
# [03:28] <Jesse> hmm. why isn't EME speccing that?
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# [03:28] <@bz> mmm
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# [03:28] <@bz> Because none of the people driving the spec have it in their interests to spec it?
# [03:28] <tbsaunde> bz: yeah, if it speced that I might think EME is better than NPAPI
# [03:28] <Jesse> is it likely that several browser vendors and CDM implementors will agree on an API?
# [03:28] <@bz> Netflix: wants to spec the interaction of the web page with the browser (which is what EME specs)
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# [03:29] <@bz> Jesse: Google (the youtube end): likewise
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# [03:29] <Jesse> are people worried that speccing the API would make it easier to break DRM?
# [03:29] <@bz> Microsoft: dunno
# [03:29] <Jesse> google seems to be happy with things only working in chrome :/
# [03:29] <@bz> Jesse: The proposed spec somewhat restricts what the DRM module can do
# [03:29] <@bz> Jesse: yep
# [03:30] <@bz> Jesse: in that the DRM module is not supposed to be contacting the server itself
# [03:30] <@bz> Jesse: but that's about it
# [03:30] <tbsaunde> Jesse: otoh if they only care about chrome why bother with a spec at all?
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# [03:30] <@bz> Jesse: it's not that people don't want to spec the API between browser and DRM module
# [03:30] <@bz> Jesse: as in, actively don't want
# [03:30] <@bz> Jesse: they just don't care
# [03:30] <@bz> Jesse: the browser vendors who are not us are also DRM module suppliers
# [03:31] <@bz> Jesse: So they'll just ship their own DRM and be done
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# [03:31] <@bz> Jesse: The non-browser-vendors don't care how browsers talk to the CDM, because they just don't
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# [03:32] <@bz> Jesse: the only people who would push for standardizing the browser/CDM API are us and DRM module suppliers who are _not_ browser vendors.
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# [03:32] <@bz> Jesse: I believe this last category is basically "Adobe", but I could be wrong...
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# [03:33] <@bz> Now you can still argue that the DRM module can be smaller and way better sandboxed than "the Flash plugin"
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# [03:33] <@bz> And _that_ is probably true.
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# [03:34] <Jesse> unless hollywood demands that it root your computer and all its peripherals
# [03:34] <Jesse> can't do that in a sandbox
# [03:34] <tbsaunde> bz: even peper flash?
# [03:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f5b6468e00d - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 920125. getOwnPropertyDescriptor on Xrays for DOM interface and prototype objects should actually work. r=peterv
# [03:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4675e87c49b0 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 905493. Fix setting document.location via an Xray to not enter the content compartment. r=peterv
# [03:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c3b4ef643e2 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 919603 part 2. Change this-handling in codegen to only do the special global object stuff on interfaces where it might matter. r=peterv
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# [03:35] <@bz> tbsaunde: Smaller, yes. Better sandboxed, unclear
# [03:35] <@bz> tbsaunde: did you see what bsmith had to say about pepper flash in the pepper thread?
# [03:36] <tbsaunde> bz: true, though I'm not sure I reeally care about size much at all
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# [03:36] <@bz> Well, API surface size matters
# [03:36] <tbsaunde> bz: yeah, I sort of agree with him
# [03:36] <@bz> for being able to sandbox
# [03:36] <@bz> tbsaunde: I mean in terms of how much pepper API surface pepper flash uses.
# [03:36] <tbsaunde> true
# [03:37] <tbsaunde> oh, yeah, supporting that would be a pain
# [03:37] <@bz> I don't mean for us
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# [03:37] <@bz> I mean that securing an API like that is pain.
# [03:37] <@bz> A CDM _should_ be able to have a way smaller API.
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# [03:38] <tbsaunde> bz: sure, but given the API for all the other browsers is "what ever is convenient" I'm not sure that's true in practice
# [03:38] <Jesse> is the part of chrome that implements the CDM API open-source?
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# [03:40] <glandium> njn: for your file renaming issue: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3148579
# [03:40] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: Chrome bothers with specs because they want to have at least a veneer of standards support
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# [03:41] <jcranmer> or, rather, they want to be "open"
# [03:41] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: I guess I'm willing to buy its that standard gogle thing
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# [03:42] <jcranmer> Mozilla seems to be the only browser vendor that cares about "open and interoperable"
# [03:43] <jcranmer> maybe Microsoft
# [03:43] <jcranmer> I don't know what they're up to these days
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# [03:44] <seth> couldn't help myself
# [03:44] <@bz> jcranmer: Opera did too
# [03:44] <@bz> jcranmer: And individual people at Google certainly care
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# [03:45] <@bz> jcranmer: Just as an org they don't necessarily....
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# [03:45] <@roc> that's true for all the companies
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# [03:50] <@roc> Jesse: you only just encountered Glenn Adams? I can tell you some stories :-)
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# [03:51] <@roc> actually he seems like a nice guy when I'm not disagreeing with him about everything
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# [03:53] <@khuey> roc: how often is that?
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# [03:53] <@roc> ok, you got me
# [03:53] <tbsaunde> roc: I think telling him stories is only fair if he has a punching bag or something around ;)
# [03:53] <@khuey> heh
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# [03:55] <Jesse> and now you're suspicious that everything you know about sailing is wrong?
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# [03:57] <aja> sorry....couldn't resist ;)
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# [04:44] <PoiLui> I want to contribute to Mozilla Code base and have identified a student project where I will love to work. What should I do now?
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# [04:45] <@roc> what project is it?
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# [04:46] <KWierso> PoiLui: ^
# [04:46] <froydnj> bz: pong
# [04:48] * @njn wonders what "glandium" means
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# [04:48] <@roc> who can review a DOM class renaming patch? Ms2ger seems to not be very responsive
# [04:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb281da676e2 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 920818 (part 2) - Remove dead EXPORT_XPC_API -D constant. r=glandium.
# [04:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7639c2a7ac8e - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 920818 (part 1) - Remove dead JSFILE -D constant. r=glandium.
# [04:50] <@khuey> roc: hi
# [04:50] <PoiLui> <roc> This: Last Comment Bug 534023 - Expose, where available, CPU usage and memory stats for plugin processes
# [04:50] <glandium> njn: part of the answer is in a latin-english dictionary
# [04:51] <glandium> njn: then you'd need to find the relevant word in french that has the same root
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# [04:51] <@njn> my cat's breath smells like cat food
# [04:51] <PoiLui> <roc> This: Bug 534023 - Expose, where available, CPU usage and memory stats for plugin processes.
# [04:52] <PoiLui> Located here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=534023
# [04:53] <@roc> PoiLui: OK. Assign the bug to yourself and start working on it I guess
# [04:53] <Mossop> It would probably be a good idea to talk to bsmedberg and verify that that is still wanted
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# [04:54] <PoiLui> <Mossop> That is right.
# [04:54] <@roc> I guess it's still wanted, although it's less important than it used to be.
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# [04:55] <PoiLui> <roc> Why will it be like that?
# [04:56] <PoiLui> <bsmedberg> Are you around?
# [04:56] <Mossop> I suspect so too, but bugs that haven't been touched for 3 years make me wary. Emailing him directly or just saying in the bug that you want to work on it should clear that up
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# [04:59] <@roc> yeah
# [05:00] <@roc> PoiLui: plugins are less important than they used to be and getting less important over time.
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# [05:01] <PoiLui> <roc> Ahan, thanks.
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# [05:10] <seth> i just fixed a bug and it was too easy
# [05:10] <seth> it can't be this easy
# [05:10] <seth> i'm predicting fields of orange on try
# [05:10] <KWierso> seth: you broke everything
# [05:10] <seth> KWierso: see, that's more what i'm used to =)
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# [05:13] <@bz> froydnj: reping, sorry for lag
# [05:13] <@bz> froydnj: are you planning to land your unified-build stuff soonish?
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# [05:16] <froydnj> bz: I can, why?
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# [05:16] <froydnj> I was waiting for gps to review other patches, but I can just land the unified-build stuff and wait on those other patches
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# [05:17] <@bz> froydnj: So my patch in bug 918011
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# [05:17] <@bz> froydnj: conflicts with your patches
# [05:17] * froydnj looks
# [05:17] <@bz> froydnj: and I would just like us to pick a merge direction
# [05:18] <@bz> froydnj: I can merge on top of your stuff, or vice versa
# [05:18] <@bz> froydnj: You want part 2 (the bit khuey reviewed)
# [05:18] <@bz> froydnj: just didn't want to land and force you to merge if you're about ready to go
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# [05:19] <seth> jcranmer: isn't noexcept dynamically checked?
# [05:19] <seth> pretty sure it totally sucks
# [05:19] <@bz> noexceptsometimes?
# [05:20] <RyanVM> seth: by chance have you had an opportunity to look at bug 910533? :)
# [05:20] <froydnj> bz: if you're ready to land, go for it
# [05:20] <RyanVM> seth: getting to the point where I may need to mark it random-if
# [05:20] <@bz> froydnj: ok
# [05:20] <froydnj> bz: I don't think the merge will be too bad
# [05:20] <jcranmer> seth: it might enable move-semantics in std::vector, etc.
# [05:20] <@bz> froydnj: Yeah, agreed
# [05:21] <seth> RyanVM: it's near the top of my list. sorry for taking so long; trying to get everything ready for australis as well. lots of balls in the air
# [05:22] <RyanVM> seth: OK :)
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# [05:25] <@khuey> land patch, go to sleep
# [05:25] <KWierso> whelp, just about time for edmorley to sign in... :)
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# [05:25] <@khuey> set to the tune of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqz5dbs5zmo
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# [05:27] <RyanVM> KWierso: Tomcat actually should be arriving relatively soon
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# [05:28] <@khuey> hmm, isn't it only 5:30 AM in Europe?
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# [05:30] <RyanVM> khuey: yes, but he starts earlier in the day
# [05:30] <@khuey> ah
# [05:30] <@khuey> calculating timezones from here is fun
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# [05:33] <@bz> KWierso: hey, I'll make in dom/bindings locally before pushing
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# [05:41] <Tomcat|afk> good morning KWierso :)
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# [05:41] <KWierso> hello, Tomcat|afk
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# [05:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6ef3d8459d0d - Matt Brubeck - Bug 920333 - Use a white background by default for thumbnail tile icon and label [r=sfoster]
# [05:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9118a1fdd187 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to fx-team.
# [05:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e85b0372cece - Wes Kocher - Merge mx-team to m-c
# [05:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/77380272cd4f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 272dabb40b3d (bug 843019) for mochitest-bc failures.
# [05:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/de92b36d6d5c - Matt Brubeck - Bug 875924 - Initialize the NewTabUtils thumbnail expiration filter [r=sfoster]
# [05:45] <KWierso> "mx-team"?
# [05:45] <KWierso> :|
# [05:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ab4ffa5b2428 - Brandon Benvie - Bug 915875 - Clean up devtools/framework/toolbox.js.
# [05:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/272dabb40b3d - Brandon Benvie - Bug 843019 - Add VariablesViewController#setSingleVariable. r=vp, r=msucan
# [05:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9902fa0a293d - Michael Comella - Bug 920642: Remove dead files from bug 870171. r=rnewman
# [05:46] <@khuey> KWierso: m and f aren't even close on the keyboard :-P
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# [05:46] <KWierso> khuey: don't judge my life
# [05:48] <@khuey> heh
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# [05:55] <philor> Dear all@moco: Please stop with the perversion of quarterly goals, kthxbye
# [05:56] <@bz> philor: lol
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# [05:57] <@bz> philor: are you claiming quarterly goals are a perversion in general, or that they are being perverted in this instance? ;)
# [05:57] <@bz> khuey: speaking of, what is this "codegen cleanup" goal?
# [05:57] <@bz> And how is "Convert Location to new bindings" marked done??
# [05:58] <@khuey> bz: fuck if I know ;-)
# [05:58] <philor> bz: both, really, though I wouldn't care whether or not they existed as long as I never heard "I can't even think about looking at that for 10 days because it's not one of my goals" or "I know this is half-assed but I want to do it before Monday"
# [05:58] <@bz> khuey:for which question?
# [05:58] <@khuey> bz: what I meant was "figure out what to do with all the places we do different things on workers"
# [05:58] <@bz> philor: mmm
# [05:58] <@bz> khuey: ah
# [05:58] <@bz> khuey: I think that goal is done
# [05:58] <@bz> khuey: no?
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# [05:58] <@khuey> bz: so do I, but somebody had a meeting and decided we missed it
# [05:58] <@khuey> :-P
# [05:59] <@khuey> apparently this happened at the last DOM bindings meeting
# [05:59] <@bz> er...
# [05:59] <@bz> I was there
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# [05:59] <@bz> we agreed we needed to ask you what the goal had been
# [05:59] <@khuey> philor: we could all take the JS team's approach to goals
# [05:59] * @bz ials jst
# [05:59] <@bz> er, mails
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# [06:01] <@khuey> [16:24:16] * khuey wonders who marked it missed
# [06:01] <@khuey> [16:25:25] -!- mikeh is now known as mikeh|afk
# [06:01] <@khuey> [16:25:54] <mccr8> khuey: we just marked it that in the DOM bindings meeting
# [06:01] <@khuey> today (jst, dougt, etc.)
# [06:01] <@khuey> [16:26:15] <khuey> ah
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# [06:02] <@bz> huh
# [06:02] <@bz> I thought it was marked missed before that
# [06:02] <@bz> anyway
# [06:02] <@bz> mail sent
# [06:02] <@khuey> after that dougt told me that goals don't matter so I shouldn't care
# [06:02] <@bz> sure
# [06:02] * Callek just really hopes we do away with google-docs for goals next quarter
# [06:03] <Callek> that was sooo hard to follow for me
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# [06:03] <@bz> I'd believe that if I were not getting mail from jst about hurrying up reviews on imposible-to-review-but-apparently-goals patches
# [06:03] <Callek> on the bright side, I made it through a quarter without any goals being explicitly assigned to me :-)
# [06:03] <Callek> so I got the general "Keep the lights on" goal ;-)
# [06:03] * @bz didn't
# [06:03] <dougt> khuey: goals totally matter.
# [06:03] * dougt looks aorund.
# [06:04] <@bz> But I made sure the goal assigned to me was checked in before we started setting q3 goals
# [06:04] <@bz> which is easy, because we don't do that until like a month into q3
# [06:04] <Callek> bz: haha thats nice!
# [06:04] <Callek> Q4 goal 1, set Q4 goals
# [06:04] <dougt> q4 goal setting feels rushed. too much other crap going on (comp stuff, summit, b2g work weeks)
# [06:05] * @khuey should make up some goals
# [06:05] <dougt> took a good stab at it this week. https://etherpad.mozilla.org/q4goalsDomNetworking
# [06:05] <Callek> dougt: as opposed to the rush/late-setting of other Q goals ?
# [06:05] <@bz> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2013-Q4-Goals#DOM looks good
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# [06:05] <@bz> dougt: want to correct the inaccurate marking on the dom q3 bits?
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# [06:06] <dougt> bz: which?
# [06:06] <@bz> philor: You should aim higher
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# [06:06] <dougt> Codegen cleanup for workers
# [06:06] <dougt> ?
# [06:06] <@bz> dougt: [MISSED] Codegen cleanup for workers (khuey)
# [06:06] <@bz> is done
# [06:06] <@bz> and
# [06:06] <@bz> [DONE] Convert Location to new bindings (peterv)
# [06:06] <@bz> Is so not done
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# [06:07] <dougt> hah
# [06:07] <dougt> speaking of the devil.
# [06:07] <@bz> unless peterv knows something I don't? ;)
# [06:07] <Callek> bz: philor already has the "do a crapton of backouts to reopen trees," and "complain about last-minute-landings-from-goals" goals done
# [06:07] <ewong> can someone point out where XRE_mainType comes from?
# [06:07] <dougt> peterv: is location converted to the new binding?
# [06:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7192af15890 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 918011 part 3. Get rid of isInOwningUnion: it's equivalent to another isMember value. r=smaug
# [06:07] <ewong> all I see are |XRE_mainType XRE_main|
# [06:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45e3854df7fe - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 918011 part 1. Move RootedDictionary into its own header. r=smaug
# [06:07] <philor> Q4 Goal: File an intermittent-failure bug for Every Single Damn dom-level1 and dom-level2 test on OS X
# [06:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea71558fef5b - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 918011 part 4. Support dictionaries in unions. r=smaug
# [06:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/225f540cd413 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 920730. Output the WebIDL .deps files in a consistent order. r=glandium
# [06:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2da382c02bcf - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 918011 part 2. Preprocess some of our test WebIDL files so we can have debug-only tests. r=khuey
# [06:08] <ewong> mxr isn't giving me any hints as to where it's defined
# [06:08] <@bz> philor: to quote a recent dev.tech.js-engine.internals thread:
# [06:08] <@bz> If we wait a few more months, the sheriffs will have filed bugs for all
# [06:08] <@bz> tests that have "|jit-test| error" or "|jit-test| exitstatus".
# [06:08] * KWierso has been midaired twice now trying to merge central back to inbound...
# [06:08] <@bz> philor: I think you might as well aim for getting that done....
# [06:08] <philor> I totally should have backed out the patch that caused us to actually run those tests
# [06:08] <@bz> KWierso: :(
# [06:08] <dougt> the web components ones i marked as missed.
# [06:08] <@bz> Kwierso: sorry. :(
# [06:08] <@bz> Kwierso: didn't realize you were merging...
# [06:09] <dougt> we moved blake and wchen to 50% so that they can help with memshrink
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# [06:09] <KWierso> bz: I'd be fine if I wasn't on this slow-ass machine while I figure out why my main computer is getting fixed...
# [06:09] <Callek> ewong: from http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/build/xrecore.h using http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/build/nsXULAppAPI.h#150
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# [06:10] <KWierso> s/why/while/
# [06:10] <dougt> alot of red on the DOM team, but I am okay with that.
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# [06:10] <@bz> dougt: yeah, the webcomponents is fail. :(
# [06:10] <@bz> KWierso: the other made sense too, if you don't know what's broken. ;)
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# [06:11] <KWierso> bz: oh I know exactly what's wrong. maybe not why it's doing it, but I know the problem...
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# [06:12] <KWierso> but I really don't feel like fixing it until this weekend since I'm pretty sure I need to clean install the system...
# [06:12] <@khuey> hmm
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# [06:12] <@khuey> gdb optimized out everything I care about
# [06:12] <@khuey> dougt: well we lost jlebar and switched the focus of several people halfway though
# [06:12] <@khuey> *through
# [06:13] <dougt> yeah, jlebar|away is going to get a shitty review for this. :P
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# [06:13] <@khuey> dougt: you should give him a 100% comp decrease
# [06:14] <KWierso> that'll teach him
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# [06:14] <Callek> dougt: shitty reviews are best dished with no comment and r-
# [06:14] <Callek> dougt: you can't get much worse than that as a reviewer :-)
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# [06:15] <@khuey> r-ing employees sounds like fun
# [06:15] <dougt> Callek: sure you can.. just sit on the review!
# [06:15] <dougt> khuey: it isn't fun.
# [06:15] <dougt> at all.
# [06:15] <dougt> speaking of which...
# [06:15] <Callek> dougt: ok, I mean, you can't get much worse than that while still performing the review
# [06:15] <Callek> :-)
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# [06:22] * @njn just typed |hg pull --rebound|
# [06:22] <glandium> dougt: sitting on the review is a double edged sword. someone might device to steal it from you
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# [06:25] <@roc> I can't write "class A; class A::B;"? noooo
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# [06:25] <@bz> roc: yeah, that part sucks. :(
# [06:25] <@roc> that is a Very Good Reason to avoid nested classes.
# [06:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aba007f62200 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 919889 (part 3) - Move the private_ field out of ObjectsExtraSizes. r=luke.
# [06:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/372027360e47 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 919889 (part 4) - Assorted minor clean-ups. r=luke.
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# [06:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d46380708d86 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 919889 (part 1) - Rename jsmemorymetrics.cpp as vm/MemoryMetrics.cpp. r=luke.
# [06:26] <@roc> khuey: what are the memshrinking priorities now?
# [06:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c82655409e8e - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 919889 (part 2) - Rename IteratorClosure as StatsClosure. r=luke.
# [06:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/04da41929810 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 919889 (part 5) - Use macros to eliminate repetitive, error-prone code in MemoryMetrics.{h,cpp}. r=luke.
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# [06:27] <dougt> glandium: i like how bugzilla offers alternative reviewers. I had something on gavin for a few days and notices jaws was free. got it reviewed in under 12 hours. kind of awesome.
# [06:27] <jaws> yo
# [06:27] <jaws> heh, thanks!
# [06:27] <dougt> jaws: +1
# [06:27] <glandium> oh man, how did i type device instead of decide
# [06:28] <glandium> bad bad finger memory
# [06:28] <dougt> i thought you were saying "devise"
# [06:28] <KWierso> ^
# [06:28] <dougt> jaws: hey - i sent johnath an email
# [06:28] <jaws> oh cool
# [06:28] <dougt> is anyone looking at captive portal in FF land?
# [06:29] <philor> KWierso: was the bottom line of that that you need help merging back to inbound?
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# [06:29] <dougt> i think necko has basically most of the stuff needed. and it has been brought up a few times by the security and necko teams
# [06:29] <KWierso> philor: bottom line is I'm now closing inbound so I can get the merge in :)
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# [06:29] <philor> heh, like a boss
# [06:29] <KWierso> philor: unless you want to push the merge for me :)
# [06:30] <philor> I can, sure
# [06:30] <KWierso> kthx
# [06:30] <philor> done
# [06:30] <KWierso> thanks
# [06:31] <KWierso> I got b2g and fxteam
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# [06:31] <philor> cool
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# [06:33] <Callek> KWierso: philor edmorley Tomcat|sheriffduty: will any of you be around on *this sunday* at ~9am PT ?
# [06:33] <philor> not I
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# [06:34] <Callek> please ping me if yes, thanks!
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# [06:39] <philor> [0] Mozilla-Inbound
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# [06:47] <philor> uh oh, I've only filed 176 bugs this quarter
# [06:48] <@khuey> slacker
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# [06:49] <@bz> You have 4 days
# [06:49] <philor> that's okay, releng slave tracking bugs are pretty much two clicks to file, I'll just do two dozen of them on Sunday
# [06:50] <@bz> fwiw, that's almost 2x more than I've filed... ;)
# [06:50] <aja> is 2/day your quota?
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# [06:51] <philor> I think the goal was written as "File whatever round number is just higher than the number you've filed when talk of quarterly goals reaches its peak"
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# [06:54] <ewong> when I have something like |nsCOMPtr<nsIProfileMigrator> pm(do_CreateInstance(NS_PROFILEMIGRATOR_CONTRACTID));| where would I be looking at to find where nsIProfileMigrator is defined?
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# [06:54] <ewong> it should be included within a .h file right?
# [06:54] <aja> philor: you need a snark metric
# [06:54] <aja> arewesnarkyyet.com
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# [06:55] <KWierso> "YES"
# [06:55] <philor> [DONE]
# [06:55] <aja> :)
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# [06:55] * philor idly looks at who smashed the Gu on b-i
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# [06:56] <@bz> You mean [AT RISK]
# [06:56] <Jesse> i don't what Gu is, so it couldn't have been me
# [06:57] <philor> "break Mac? I don't even build on Mac!"
# [06:57] <Jesse> yes, the reference to http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/1045 was intentional :)
# [06:58] <philor> I'm pretty impressed by how little misquoting I did
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# [07:06] <@njn> philor: I like your version better
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# [07:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48fc29474b4d - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 414087 (part 1) - Clean up the style of StackArena.{h,cpp}. r=bz.
# [07:26] <glob> why are the quotes on http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/top sorted weirdly now?
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# [07:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/60c5e84b09fe - Douglas Crosher - Bug 919958 - Odinmonkey: disable movement of heap loads as a workaround while the real problem is explored (r=bbouvier)
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# [08:24] <Fallen> Did something change w.r.t error showing lately? xpcshell just swallows all exceptions and its also now shown in app
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# [08:24] <@khuey> yeah I rewrote a bunch of it
# [08:24] <@khuey> wouldn't surprise me if I broke stuff
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# [08:27] <Fallen> khuey: its really strange. I have a file that I know has a syntax error in it. I can load it with xpcshell -f without errors. When I do var f = new thingFromFile() then it passes and f just contains undefined
# [08:28] <glob> happy bmo push day! https://globau.wordpress.com/2013/09/26/happy-bmo-push-day-66/
# [08:28] <Fallen> and if I start the app with the bad file, then I get a bunch of const redefined messages that are unrelated to the error (doing a lot of subscript loading) and somewhere inbetween there is the real error.
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# [08:31] <@khuey> Fallen: yeah, sounds plausible it's my fault
# [08:31] <@khuey> Fallen: any idea when it started?
# [08:33] <Fallen> khuey: thats kind of the problem. It feels to me like it randomly started between two days ago and now, but I don't recall updating my tree. My m-c tip is dba6489bd000
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# [08:34] <Fallen> and to make things worse, its also happening with Thunderbird 24, which I know worked before…so it might not be you
# [08:35] <@khuey> oh, hmm
# [08:35] <@khuey> my stuff landed before the merge
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# [08:44] <Fallen> I don't know what I changed, but at least tb24 is working now. I did set javascript.options.showInConsole and strict mode
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# [08:56] <glazou> bonjour
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# [09:03] <@khuey> Bugzilla has suffered an internal error:
# [09:03] <@khuey> file error - failed to create compiled templates directory: /data/www/bugzilla.mozilla.org/data/template//data/www/bugzilla.mozilla.org/template/en/default (mkdir /data/www/bugzilla.mozilla.org/data/template//data: Permission denied at /usr/lib64/perl5/Template/Provider.pm line 859 )
# [09:03] <@khuey> glob: ^
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# [09:03] <glob> khuey, shh, you saw nothing
# [09:03] <glob> noooothing
# [09:04] <glob> (in the middle of a push, sorry about the inconvenience)
# [09:04] <@khuey> ah, ok
# [09:04] <@khuey> just wanted to make sure things aren't broken
# [09:04] <glob> sure -- thanks for the notice :)
# [09:05] <glob> and we're done, thank you for flying air bugzilla
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# [09:09] <ttaubert> is there a way to get PGO builds on try?
# [09:10] <ttaubert> ah, found it. https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryChooser#What_if_I_want_PGO_for_my_build
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# [09:29] <ewong> does NS_WARNING(msg) dump the message to the console?
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# [09:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7da79387b24d - Mike Hommey - Bug 920891 - Fix installation of bug 677930 css file after bug 917622. r=gps
# [09:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c459362695e - Mike Hommey - Bug 920353 - Use PYCOMMANDPATH paths as site packages in pymake, and set it to the virtualenv site packages instead of $(topsrcdir)/config. r=gps
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# [09:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6b3872a573f9 - Mike Hommey - Bug 920896 - Strip ./ from targets and dependencies in includedeps files. r=gps
# [09:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c12830ce02f - Mike Hommey - Bug 919832 - Remove EXPORTS related rules from rules.mk. r=gps
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# [09:51] <@khuey> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ping
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# [09:59] <@khuey> Tomcat|sheriffduty: bld-lion-r5-040 is sick
# [09:59] <@khuey> https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/builddata/reports/slave_health/slave.html?name=bld-lion-r5-040
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# [09:59] <@khuey> looks like it has broken ssh keys
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# [10:02] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> khuey: ah ok thanks will disable this slave and inform releng
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# [10:05] <@khuey> thanks
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# [10:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/688d314d5c2f - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 916542 - Guard against non-plugin elements in DOMWindowUtils.plugins. r=jaws
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# [10:24] <mjrosenb> is anyone that looks through the crash reports around?
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# [10:43] <@khuey> ugh
# [10:43] <@khuey> I don't remember how a patch I wrote six months ago works
# [10:43] <@khuey> this is bad
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# [11:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67fadc732e63 - Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如) - Bug 914026 - Check mDocShell before use. r=khuey
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# [11:26] <NeilAway> glob|away: is there a quick way to link to someone's review queue or at least show its length?
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# [11:28] <Rik> NeilAway: I'd love to see that in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/user_profile
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# [11:28] <mrbkap> NeilAway: you should be able to use the old request page for that.
# [11:29] <mrbkap> NeilAway: e.g. here's my review queue https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=&type=all&requestee=mrbkap%40gmail.com&component=&group=type
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# [11:30] <NeilAway> mrbkap: sure, but that means typing in the victim's email again
# [11:31] <mrbkap> NeilAway: you could copy/paste it :P
# [11:31] <Rik> NeilAway: the suggested reviewer thing gives you how many reviews someone has
# [11:31] <NeilAway> mrbkap: also, it means requesting my queue first, which is unnecessary extra load :-P
# [11:32] <mrbkap> NeilAway: you could create a saved search!
# [11:32] <NeilAway> Rik: yeah, but it's not enabled for all components yet
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# [11:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/331a8e2fa56b - Blake Kaplan - Fix bug 916404. r=mccr8
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# [12:29] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley|mtg: you are ok with using 60c5e84b09fe from inbound as merge changeset as soon als the tests pass :)
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# [12:30] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: looking :-)
# [12:31] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: looks good to me :-) thank you
# [12:32] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np :)
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# [13:09] <Gijs> edmorley, Tomcat|sheriffduty: what are No and Nd builds for Linux ASan?
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# [13:10] <edmorley> Gijs: see tooltip? :-)
# [13:11] <Gijs> edmorley: well, right, but... who uses those builds?
# [13:11] <Gijs> edmorley: I'm presuming they don't get distributed to ordinary Linux nightly users? Do they get sent anywhere else?
# [13:11] <edmorley> Gijs: I'm not entirely sure tbh :-)
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# [13:12] <edmorley> Gijs: I'm presuming the fuzzing team?
# [13:12] * Gijs is cancelling UX nightlies for today because they have bad bugs (fixed <2h later, but that's no help)
# [13:12] <edmorley> Gijs: I'll try to find out
# [13:12] <Gijs> I'll just cancel those too, to be safe, then. :(
# [13:13] <Gijs> edmorley: 's OK, I'll just be safe rather than sorry
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# [13:13] <edmorley> Gijs: ah, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753148#c7
# [13:13] <Gijs> Can I do that in some way when they're still pending?
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# [13:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> decoder: maybe you know about the no and nd builds for asan
# [13:14] <edmorley> Gijs: cancelling pending builds isn't generally recommended, since it can be coalesced
# [13:14] <Gijs> edmorley: nightly builds can't, right?
# [13:14] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753148#c7 implies they are being used, but whether that is still the case or not, I don't know :-)
# [13:14] <Gijs> those are always clobbered and never coalesced, or am I confused?
# [13:14] <edmorley> Gijs: not sure tbh
# [13:15] <edmorley> Gijs: perhaps just cancel anyway :-)
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# [13:15] <Gijs> edmorley: I had already before I saw your msg... :X
# [13:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: ah ok
# [13:15] <Gijs> So here's for hoping it works out ;)
# [13:15] <Gijs> It's a branch build so I guess it's unlikely to be much of a problem anyway
# [13:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: decoder is i guess our expert for asan and so :)
# [13:15] <Gijs> s/branch/project branch/
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# [13:17] <edmorley> Gijs: it'll be fine, I doubt anyone actively uses those builds anyway :-)
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# [13:17] <Gijs> :)
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# [13:19] <Gijs> edmorley: I don't suppose you have buildapi staging access? :)
# [13:20] <edmorley> Gijs: sadly not! :-)
# [13:20] <Gijs> Heh, alright
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# [13:21] <Gijs> (or rather the patch for it)
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# [13:28] <Yoric> mak: ping
# [13:29] <decoder> Tomcat|sheriffduty: you mean Bo Bd?
# [13:30] <decoder> oh there's also No
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# [13:30] <decoder> I assume it's nightly optimized
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# [14:07] <paul> Is it possible to access the 'navigator' object without a window? To be more precise, I want to use ` navigator.mozPower.screenEnabled `
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# [14:09] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: should bug 920952 have "metro-chrome" or equivalent in its summary?
# [14:09] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: good point
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# [14:13] <froydnj> ted: thanks for the pointer to graydon's work...the ARM QEMU implementation is/was...interesting
# [14:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1c5e6b8ebbde - Mark Capella - Bug 917944 - Remove "Most recent" header in history page, r=margaret
# [14:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/55bd39f913d1 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 919493 - browser-plugins.js should call openUILinkIn rather than openURL. r=gavin
# [14:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/500235e48132 - Michael Comella - Bug 920674 - Add clarifying log statements to FHR Prune service. r=nalexander
# [14:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/317e5d5c822b - Adrian Tamas - Bug 916107 - Tag BrowserSearch view for the UI tests to have access to it (r=lucasr)
# [14:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/160ec7af5cb9 - Wes Kocher - Merge m-c to fx-team
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# [14:15] <@ted> froydnj: he's having real issues getting anything > armv5 android emulators built
# [14:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1be9c19c23ee - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge fx-team to mc
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# [14:15] <@ted> which sucks seeing as how we only target armv6 or better
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# [14:17] <froydnj> ted: that does suck
# [14:17] <froydnj> ted: but he can run armv7-a kernels or something like that?
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# [14:19] <@ted> i'm fuzzy on the details, read the bug :)
# [14:19] <@ted> or ask him
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# [14:22] <froydnj> I read the bug and I still wasn't quite sure
# [14:23] <froydnj> ted: does he hang out on irc?
# [14:23] <@ted> occasionaly
# [14:23] <@ted> i believe he's in vancouver
# [14:23] <Yoric> bsmedberg: Do you want to sr bug 917764?
# [14:23] <froydnj> ok, I'll look for him in times appropriate for pst
# [14:23] <@ted> froydnj: anyway if you have any advice for him i'm sure he'd be happy to help
# [14:24] <@ted> given that you're grovelling around in the qemu source...
# [14:24] <@bsmedberg> Yoric: I already marked f+, I think that's sufficient
# [14:24] <Yoric> bsmedberg: Ok, thanks.
# [14:24] <froydnj> I love working on qemu...it does so much great stuff and yet is/was a glorious hack of source code
# [14:24] <Yoric> bsmedberg: Do you have an idea how we could test this, btw?
# [14:25] <@bsmedberg> Yoric: well, xpcshell tests might be able to cover it, though you'd have to reconfigure the timeouts
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# [14:25] <Yoric> Can we test for crashes in a xpcshell test?
# [14:27] <@ted> we have tests that do that, yeah
# [14:27] <@ted> toolkit/crashreporter/test
# [14:27] <Yoric> thanks
# [14:27] <@ted> runs a sub-xpcshell and crashes it intentionally
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# [14:29] <Yoric> Looks like |do_crash()| is relatively sophisticated. ted, do you think it would be ok to add my crash test to that directory?
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# [14:29] <Yoric> (it's for crashes caused by toolkit/modules/AsyncShutdown.jsm)
# [14:30] <@ted> Yoric: is your test going to test that it *doesn't* crash?
# [14:30] <@ted> that's slightly different
# [14:30] <Yoric> No, I'm going to test that it *does* crash – preferably with the right crash annotation.
# [14:30] <@ted> ah
# [14:30] <@ted> okay, then yeah
# [14:30] <@ted> feel free
# [14:30] <@smaug> hmm, review queue looks bad
# [14:30] <@ted> that fits right in with the other tests there
# [14:30] <Yoric> Thanks.
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# [14:32] <@bsmedberg> what OS is this screenshot? https://twitter.com/dylanmccall/status/383052375692283904
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# [14:33] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bsmedberg: maybe linux ?
# [14:33] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> don't look like mac or windows for me
# [14:34] <JosiahOne> I think it's Linux Mint.
# [14:34] <paul> It also looks like Elementary OS.
# [14:34] <JosiahOne> Yeah, perhaps.
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# [14:36] <JosiahOne> I think it's mint. See the close button here: http://www.linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/olivia/gallery/cinnamon-de.png
# [14:36] <JosiahOne> (Close button at the bottom of the preference window)
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# [14:39] <Gijs> bsmedberg: their twitter bio says "obsessed with @Ubuntu", so presumably some flavour of that
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# [14:58] <@smaug> ted: is there some env variable to disable crash reporter ?
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# [15:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> smaug: i use https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Environment_variables_affecting_crash_reporting
# [15:01] <@smaug> ah, MOZ_CRASHREPORTER_DISABLE=1
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# [15:14] <Yoric> ted: What's the ".extra" file?
# [15:14] <mak> Yoric: hey
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# [15:35] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ping
# [15:36] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bkelly: pong
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# [15:36] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hi! I was just wondering if this was correct: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920561#c20
# [15:36] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty: that bug had been backed out later in the gaia tree
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# [15:36] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I mean… its currently backed out
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# [15:38] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm
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# [15:39] <bkelly> sorry… that bug got a bit confusing since it landed twice and was backed out twice
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# [15:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
# [15:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> so yeah the backout push changeset is also on mozilla central
# [15:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> thanks will reopen the bug
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# [15:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> and and posting the mc changset
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# [15:41] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty: cool, thanks!
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# [15:43] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> done , thanks bkelly
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# [16:34] <@ted> smaug: MOZ_CRASHREPORTER_DISABLE=1
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# [16:35] <Yoric> ted: Yeah, I deduced that. Thanks.
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# [16:41] <philor> hmm, http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2013-09/msg04254.html seems a little terse
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# [16:41] <RyanVM|brb> philor: hah, wow
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# [16:45] <NeilAway> evilpie: hmm, I wonder why we even bother with isInt32 in that case...
# [16:45] <tbsaunde> philor: how long does "patch looks good" need to be?
# [16:46] <BenWa> No nightly yet?
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# [16:46] <RyanVM|brb> BenWa: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2013/09/2013-09-26-03-02-07-mozilla-central/ ?
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# [16:47] <philor> tbsaunde: advantage: you; the font I'm seeing it in has a tilde that looks almost exactly like a minus, so I thought it was "r-, review denied" rather than "r~, philor doesn't know what that means"
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# [16:50] <tbsaunde> philor: oh, heh, being familiar with the git signed/reviewed/acked -by thing does help
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# [16:53] <fabrice> smaug: it looks like my framemessagemanager patch breaks the world... not sure how this can impact so many tests
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# [16:54] <@smaug> fabrice: could you upload the current patch
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# [16:56] <paul> RyanVM|brb: sorry for the mess (bug 920984)
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# [17:03] <@bsmedberg> Which of the web image formats are lossless?
# [17:03] <@bsmedberg> or "potentially lossless"
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# [17:05] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: png
# [17:05] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: pong
# [17:05] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: no, PNG :)
# [17:05] <@bsmedberg> oh hah
# [17:05] <@bsmedberg> ok
# [17:05] <BenWa> RyanVM|brb: wonder why the updater isn't working then
# [17:06] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: also gif, if the source image only has colors in the gif pallete
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# [17:08] <@smaug> web image format
# [17:08] <philor> "/bin/sh: /builds/slave/m-in-and-d-0000000000000000000/build/obj-firefox/config: is a directory" - thanks, Captain Obvious sh
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# [17:10] <philor> oh, because we intermittently had "" rather than "nsinstall" as the name of the command, so in the middle of hundreds of nsinstalls we tried to run "obj-firefox/config -R -m 644...", go us
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# [17:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/63db6c5e2b7a - Jon Coppeard - Bug 919536 - Post barrier array write in SetElementIC r=bhackett
# [17:16] <salman> <ted> Can you please help me getting started with Bug 818894. Link: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=818894
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# [17:16] <@bsmedberg> Do PNGs contain embedded resolution information?
# [17:17] <salman> <ted> I am absolutely new to Mozilla development and will be deeply grateful for help.
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# [17:17] <@ted> salman: hey, saw your email, just didn't get a chance to reply yet today
# [17:17] <RyanVM> paul: np, it happens :)
# [17:18] <RyanVM> BenWa: no clue, ask in #releng?
# [17:18] <BenWa> kk
# [17:18] <salman> <ted> No problem. Please reply by your convenience. Anxiously waiting!
# [17:19] <@ted> salman: do you have windows development experience?
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# [17:22] <jrmuizel_> bsmedberg: what plugins are used for scaning?
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# [17:24] <@bsmedberg> jrmuizel_: http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/10518/NET-Web-Twain and http://www.dynamsoft.com/Products/WebTWAIN_Overview.aspx are popular, and there are some other proprietary ones
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# [17:28] <NeilAway> ehsan: it's actually possible to cheat with gif, by having an animated gif with lots of overdrawn frames with palettes containing the missing colours
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# [17:28] <@ehsan> NeilAway: I don't think that's what bsmedberg meant :)
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# [17:28] <@bsmedberg> I want my scanning API to generate an animated GIF...!
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# [17:29] <@ted> why are we talking about scanning?
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# [17:30] <@bsmedberg> because that's a plugin use case I'd like to put into the web platform
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# [17:30] <@ted> ah
# [17:30] <@ted> window.scan
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# [17:30] <@ted> :)
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# [17:30] <@ted> to go along with the wonderful window.print
# [17:30] <@bsmedberg> <input type="file" accept="image/png" multiple>
# [17:30] <@ehsan> and window.find
# [17:30] <@ehsan> for the other meaning of scan
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# [17:30] <@bsmedberg> might be enough, but I just posted to whatwg@ to get some feedback
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# [17:31] <@ted> bsmedberg: yeah, similar to the camera use case for the file picker
# [17:31] <@bsmedberg> I think a hit to the UA that you actually want a document scan instead of multiple images from your picture library or camera might be useful
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# [17:31] * @ted can't remember what we wound up doing for mobile
# [17:31] <@bsmedberg> of course if you're scanning on android you actually do want pictures from your camera
# [17:31] <@ted> i know we decided that getUserMedia({picture:true}) was not what we wanted
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# [17:32] <@ted> bsmedberg: right, but if the UA knows you want a scan, we can do the right thing
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# [17:33] <@bsmedberg> making people use script for this seems silly
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# [17:33] <@ted> right, fundamentally you just want to get an image out
# [17:34] <@ted> do the TWAIN APIs let you get anything but an image?
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# [17:34] <@ted> like when my scanner scans to PDF, is that all client software doing the OCR?
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# [17:37] <@bsmedberg> ted: I believe so, yes
# [17:37] <@bsmedberg> I don't know of a scanner with OCR onboard, they just scan to a bitmap and do the OCR in software
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# [17:41] <@bsmedberg> gps: yt? I'm getting an assert in resourcemonitor.py when finishing a build
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# [17:50] <NeilAway> ted: when my scanner scans to PDF it's an embedded image :-P
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# [17:50] <@ted> NeilAway: yeah, that happens a lot too
# [17:50] <@ted> but some of them do OCR
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# [17:58] <NeilAway> ted: yeah, but then it tries to hand me a .doc or something
# [17:58] <nemo> hm. Switch to tab doesn't work nicely with multiple windows at all
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# [17:58] <nemo> At least in MATE under linux.
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# [17:58] <@ted> heh
# [17:58] <nemo> (that is, choosing switch to tab in awesomebar when the tab is in another window)
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# [18:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31fc330fb7fc - Tom Schuster - Bug 919340 - Test. r=mikedeboer
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# [18:07] <botond|chicago> is anyone else seeing bugmail contain links like https://bug919144.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=810380 which then do not resolve?
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# [18:07] <@bsmedberg> bz: the sr? in bug 920731 is only for the decision to stop JS exports, not any of the actual code changes
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# [18:10] <tbsaunde> botond|chicago: that kind of link has been around for a long time I think, but odd it doesn't resolve
# [18:11] <botond|chicago> tbsaunde: it doesn't resolve for me, i get a "Server not found" error
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# [18:11] <botond|chicago> tbsaunde: changing the link to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=810380 has no effect, it just redirects to the other form
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# [18:12] <tbsaunde> botond|chicago: tbsaunde@iceball:/src/firefox-dbg3$ ping bug644552.bugzilla.mozilla.org
# [18:12] <tbsaunde> PING bugzilla-wild-zlb.vips.scl3.mozilla.com (63.245.215.81) 56(84) bytes of data.
# [18:12] <tbsaunde> 64 bytes from bugzilla-wild-zlb.vips.scl3.mozilla.com (63.245.215.81): icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=81.2 ms
# [18:12] <tbsaunde> 64 bytes from bugzilla-wild-zlb.vips.scl3.mozilla.com (63.245.215.81): icmp_seq=2 ttl=56 time=90.4 ms
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# [18:12] <tbsaunde> dns issue maybe?
# [18:13] <botond|chicago> tbsaunde: botond@botond-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-temp ~ $ ping bug644552.bugzilla.mozilla.org
# [18:13] <botond|chicago> ping: unknown host bug644552.bugzilla.mozilla.org
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# [18:14] <tbsaunde> botond|chicago: that works for me too from a machine at CMU
# [18:14] <botond|chicago> tbsaunde: i notice my browser puts in 'https' automatically. could that have something to do with it?
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# [18:17] <mrbkap> AaronMT: ping
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# [18:17] <mrbkap> ?
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# [18:18] <tbsaunde> botond|chicago: I'm pretty sure not
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# [18:19] <tbsaunde> botond|chicago: I think whover runs the DNS you're using is screwed up, try changing you're name servers to 8.8.8.8 or something 4.2.2.1 maybe
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# [18:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4983ed4903d - Gregory Szorc - Bug 914563 - Temporarily disable build resource recording on Windows; r=mshal
# [18:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5897df7c56e2 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 920781 - Invoke pymake with calling python, not $PATH python; r=glandium
# [18:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e192b21e0934 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 917988 - Fix licensing of in-tree documentation; r=gerv
# [18:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e359c0a0d7a - Gregory Szorc - NO BUG - Increase memory allocation for documentation VM
# [18:22] <gps> bsmedberg: see above push. fixed the assertions by disabling the feature temporarily
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# [18:23] <botond|chicago> tbsaunde: how do i do that?
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# [18:29] <bent> anyone know where i'm supposed to file bugs on the new cache?
# [18:29] <bent> (same as old cache?)
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# [18:33] <bent> rstrong, !
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# [18:37] <mrbkap> AaronMT: For https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=917515#c12 are you on a mobile version of the site?
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# [18:37] <NeilAway> bsmedberg: which is better a) adding an assignment operator to nsTAString... and then again to nsTString, nsTAutoString, nsTAdoptingString et al. or switching to using substring_type::operator=; and running into an MSVC warning?
# [18:38] <@bsmedberg> NeilAway: what's the warning?
# [18:38] <@bsmedberg> nonvirtual operator= is dangerous?
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# [18:39] <mrbkap> AaronMT: I'll check my wallpaper patch into m-i right now... can you keep an eye out for imgur breakage tomorrow? :)
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# [18:40] <AaronMT> sure, sounds good
# [18:40] <NeilAway> bsmedberg: oh I see now, nsAdoptingString doesn't want some of those assignment operators, never mind me
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# [18:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nical: ping
# [18:52] <nical> RyanVM|sheriffduty: did I break the build again?
# [18:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nical: OSX doesn't like your push :)
# [18:52] <nical> RyanVM|sheriffduty: darn
# [18:52] <nical> i'll back it out
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# [19:06] <seth> argh, why doesn't search in devtools find values in HTML attributes?
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# [19:08] <bhearsum> gavin: are you the right person to review https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=919725? (no need to review it right this second, just want to make sure i got the right reviewer)
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# [19:09] <sfoster> what do I use these days in place of someElement.attributes? I want to remove all but a couple of attributes on a element
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# [19:10] <sfoster> or this a docs issue. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Element.attributes is a TODO.
# [19:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e766f9da9b33 - Nicolas Silva - Bug 916118 - Backed out changeset bafb8bf3b279 on a CLOSED TREE
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# [19:19] <seth> sigh, and chrome's dev tools work fine.
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# [19:32] <evilpie> I RyanVM|sheriffduty see https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=31fc330fb7fc
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# [19:34] <fabrice1> I would like build tools to be clever enough to not rebuild the world when I update a comment in a header file
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# [19:35] <bjacob> what is The Right Way to crash debug builds and not release builds? NS_ABORT() does that, but is there a MFBT way? Besides the ugly MOZ_ASSERT(false, ...) ?
# [19:35] <bjacob> Ms2ger: ^ ?
# [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> evilpie: ok
# [19:36] <froydnj> fabrice1: better, more complex (possibly slower) build system or a better language, pick one =/
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# [19:36] <Ms2ger> bjacob, I think that's the way to go, yes
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# [19:37] <dholbert> bjacob, MOZ_ASSERT(false, ...), yeah
# [19:37] <bjacob> ok
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# [19:39] <@gavin> bhearsum: do you mean another bug?
# [19:39] <@gavin> bhearsum: ah, bug 885477
# [19:39] <bhearsum> ah, yes, sorry
# [19:40] <@gavin> bhearsum: :rs may be a better choice, just because he's familiar with the update cert check stuff
# [19:40] <bhearsum> ah, ok
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# [19:40] <bhearsum> thanks gavin
# [19:41] <seth> fabrice1: better than that should be possible; when we touch actual code in a header file, in a perfect world it should only trigger rebuilds from files that depended on _that code_ (rather than _that header file_)
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# [19:43] <seth> i don't see any reason why such a thing isn't possible, although the complexity of name lookup in C++ would make implementation pretty complicated =\
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# [19:43] <froydnj> seth: I think tracking code/non-code modifications wouldn't be too bad, but dependencies for lots of blocks of code (never mind name lookup etc.) would get ugly fast
# [19:44] <seth> i didn't say it'd be easy =)
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# [19:45] <alungu> bz: ping
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# [19:47] <evilpie> how do I run mochitest-browser with a custom preferences?
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# [19:47] <@gavin> evilpie: runtests.py has a command line flag for it
# [19:47] <@gavin> you can invoke it manually
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# [19:47] <evilpie> no mach goodness ? :)
# [19:47] <@gavin> objdir/_virtualenv/python path/to/runtests.py, or something
# [19:47] <@bz> alungu: ack
# [19:47] <evilpie> thanks
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# [19:48] <Ms2ger> evilpie, you can add mach goodness ;)
# [19:48] <Ms2ger> ./mach python path/to/runtests.py, probably
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# [19:48] <alungu> bz: Could you take a look over those questions about the entries management by the end of the week, please?
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# [19:49] <@bz> alungu: I'm working on it right now
# [19:49] <alungu> bz: that's great! thanks a lot!
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# [19:51] <Mook_as> seth: that would be interesting, given that #defines can suddenly add blocks that were previously not relevant...
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# [19:52] <seth> Mook_as: yes, you'd definitely need to track "preprocessor context"
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# [19:52] <seth> Mook_as: i'm not sure you can get too clever if that changes
# [19:53] <Mook_as> oh, I just mean that if you add | #define GetMessage GetMessageW | in a file that was previously tracked, in an area that previously looked irrelevant, things can go sideways
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# [19:54] <seth> Mook_as: so if you did that in the header, i'd probably just invalidate anything that depended on that header. if you did that in the source file, any change to the source file necessitates rebuilding it anyway
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# [19:55] <Mook_as> so you'd need to be able to parse the header for changing preprocessor definitions. I guess that's not _that_ bad...
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# [19:56] <seth> yeah, i think it's doable. i'm curious whether, in the long run, just implementing this would be more or less expensive in terms of engineering time than include-what-you-use
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# [19:57] <tbsaunde> I'd think the easiest answer would be a build system that did preprocessing seperate from compilation, but that would probably be slower...
# [19:57] <seth> what i don't like about include-what-you-use is that it doesn't solve the problem once and for all
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# [20:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30772a870625 - Drew Willcoxon - Bug 920299 - Make Mach logger colorize TEST-START and TEST-INFO. r=gps
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# [20:07] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: you'll be shocked to hear this, but bent broke Windows
# [20:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24818d9b7470 - Ben Turner - Bug 920633 - 'Add getAllKeys() to IDBObjectStore'. r=janv.
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# [20:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb0041643a0f - Ben Turner - Bug 920800 - 'Add openKeyCursor() to IDBObjectStore'. r=janv.
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# [20:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: dammit, meant to hold off on reopening until the next Windows build ran
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# [20:09] <bent> huh, what is that error about?
# [20:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: I'm backing out bug 920179. Do I need to take bug 920633 and bug 920800 too?
# [20:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: i believe that's the first indicator of an opt build crashing on startup
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# [20:10] <bent> well... if you do, yeah. but shouldn't we understand the error first?
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# [20:11] <bent> i still can't find the actual failure in the log
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# [20:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: it's at the bottom of the log
# [20:11] <_AxS_> hey all -- anyone here know about 'shlibsign' from nss? I'm working on a multilib (32bit+64bit) lib package and i want to know if the 64bit shlibsign will siffice to sign the 32bit libs, or if i should be building a 32bit shlibsign
# [20:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mozpack.errors.ErrorMessage: Error: Error while running startup cache precompilation
# [20:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and lines above
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# [20:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: you can find the errors by searching the log for "results: 2"
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# [20:13] <philor> it's even more fun than the browser crashing, it's xpcshell.exe crashing, with absolutely no desire whatsoever to tell you where or how
# [20:13] <bent> yeah, this is the most unhelpful error log ever
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# [20:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: have a windows builder handY?
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# [20:14] <bent> yeah, i do
# [20:15] <philor> hmm, who broke 10.7 webgl reftests
# [20:15] <bent> not sure what command i need to run to get this packager thing going
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# [20:16] <philor> oh, that was the closure before
# [20:16] <philor> bent: I'd expect make installer
# [20:16] <bent> i thought that ran as part of a normal full build?
# [20:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mach package
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# [20:17] <bent> my xpcshell tests pass locally
# [20:17] <bent> so it's not just xpcshell
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# [20:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> darn
# [20:18] <philor> oh, make package is what it's actually running
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# [20:19] <bent> wtf
# [20:19] <bent> any chance this is unrelated?
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# [20:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: run prior suggests no (tests are running on it now)
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# [20:20] <philor> yep
# [20:20] <bent> i'm fine with backing it out, just really surprised
# [20:21] <bent> oh goody, my local build decided that a reconfigure was needed
# [20:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: sorry, backing out now :(
# [20:21] <bent> np
# [20:21] <bent> it'll be interesting to see if the later runs fail
# [20:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/19b202186812 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 3 changesets (bug 920179, bug 920633, bug 920800) for Windows |make package| crashes on a CLOSED TREE.
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# [21:28] <tanvi> how do i run just mochitest-5? according to https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mochitest, we type make mochitest-5, but that doens't work. is there a mach equivalent?
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# [21:29] <@ted> tanvi: i don't think there is currently
# [21:29] <@ted> you run "make mochitest-5" in the objdir
# [21:29] <@ted> i believe that ought to still work
# [21:30] <@gavin> I thought that did land
# [21:30] <@gavin> in bug 860839
# [21:30] <@ted> hum
# [21:30] <tanvi> ted - no that doesn't work
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# [21:30] <@gavin> ./mach mochitest-5 ?
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# [21:30] <tanvi> tried that oo
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# [21:31] <@ted> tanvi: what do you get?
# [21:31] <tanvi> *too
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# [21:31] <tanvi> in mozilla-central though; not in the obj directory
# [21:31] <mbrubeck> ./mach test mochitest-5
# [21:31] <tanvi> let me try that
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# [21:31] <mbrubeck> Note the "test" command
# [21:31] <@ted> yeah huh, there's something busted about "make mochitest-5"
# [21:32] <till> jaws: ping
# [21:32] <@ted> mbrubeck: oh, nice
# [21:32] <mbrubeck> "./mach test m5" also works
# [21:32] <jaws> till: pong
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# [21:32] <tanvi> mbrubeck: yes that works! thanks
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# [21:32] <till> jaws: bug 790483 broke the Shumway addon
# [21:32] * jaws checks
# [21:32] <tanvi> is there a plan to document how to use mach with mochitests? or update the current docs?
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# [21:32] <@ted> we should fix the docs, yeah
# [21:33] <@ted> i think that's brand-spanking new
# [21:33] <till> jaws: (pinging you, because gfritzsche isn't online and you reviewed)
# [21:33] <jaws> till: breaking shumway isn't good. can you please file a new bug and mark it as blocking bug 790483?
# [21:33] <till> jaws: will do, thanks
# [21:33] <jaws> thank you for bringing it up
# [21:34] <till> jaws: and no, it's not good - we want to land soon :)
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# [21:34] <jaws> agreed
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# [21:34] <jaws> till: we need to find a way that both doesn't break shumway, and also allows shumway to work with sites that resize their plugins
# [21:35] <till> jaws: true
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# [21:35] <till> jaws: I don't know what exactly made that impossible before this patch, though. Shumway itself listens to resize events and changes its stage size accordingly
# [21:36] <jaws> till: i'm not sure what you're talking about. gecko doesn't fire resize events for dom elements
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# [21:36] <till> oh
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# [21:36] <jaws> till: bug 227495
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# [21:37] <till> jaws: actually, ignore me. I don't really know how any of this works on the shumway side of things, either
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# [21:37] <jaws> till: heh, no problem. still good that you noticed it :)
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# [21:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee1bd7d5dae4 - Honza Bambas - Bug 913813 - HTTP cache v1/v2 miss/hit time compare telemetry, r=michal
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# [21:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d74127c0b31 - Honza Bambas - Bug 914824 - HTTP cache v1/v2 general timing and hit rate compare telemetry, r=michal
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# [21:38] <Yoric> baku|away: I have questions regarding ArchiveReader.
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# [21:39] <till> jaws: well, we just had a meeting about our plans to land in Nightly, and discovered that, as of today, no content is shown at all ;)
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# [21:39] <jaws> ouch
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# [21:41] <till> :)
# [21:41] <@ehsan> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/blink-dev/C5-_RObnZSo
# [21:41] <@ehsan> lol
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# [21:41] <@ehsan> all technical issues must be resolved democratically \o/
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# [21:41] <Yoric> Mossop: What was the bug# for which you needed to read a zip file?
# [21:41] <hub> ehsan: lot of bike shedding will occur.
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# [21:41] <hub> ehsan: good, we'll have more time to focus on code here ;-)
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# [21:42] <till> ehsan: that's going to turn out great, I'm sure
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# [21:42] * @ehsan kind of wants to troll that vote ;)
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# [21:52] <philor> speaking of bent breaking the tree
# [21:52] <jaws> till: bug #?
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# [21:59] <bent> ted, maintaining --shared-js is not going to be possible... the first thing i want to do is use ICU in gecko
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# [22:08] <@ted> bent: :-/
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# [22:08] <@ted> bent: it would be nice to have that safety valve
# [22:08] <bent> ted, i want a million bucks too ;)
# [22:08] <@ted> well, i don't want to be in a firedrill can't-ship position
# [22:08] <@ted> we've done that too many times
# [22:08] <bent> ted, but seriously, the only reason we're trying to do this is to get ICU in gecko
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# [22:09] <@ted> bsmedberg wants to stop extensions from using JSAPI as well
# [22:09] <bent> well, bsmedberg's thnig
# [22:09] <bent> yeah
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# [22:10] <bent> ted, we could build ICU as an actual dll...
# [22:10] <bent> and make js link it
# [22:10] <bent> and xul too
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# [22:10] <@ted> as a fallback plan that sounds good
# [22:11] <@ted> i dunno, maybe i'm worrying too much
# [22:11] <tbsaunde> ted: we could do that other ways though, wasn't there at one point a proposal to only export one symbol from the js lib and then have that point at a table of function pointers
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# [22:11] <@bsmedberg> ted: my thing gates on js as sharedlib, so it won't be an issue if we need to backout
# [22:11] <@smaug> ted: who wouldn't want extensions to stop using JSAPI
# [22:11] <@bsmedberg> Norton toolbar
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# [22:12] <@ted> heh
# [22:13] <@bsmedberg> which is also why we haven't unthrottled Firefox 24 yet...
# [22:13] <@bsmedberg> "we'll ship on Monday, probably"
# [22:15] <@smaug> can't we just block Norton toolbar?
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# [22:16] <@bsmedberg> no
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# [22:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6bf0cf1021fd - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 920818 (part 3) - Remove js/src/editline/Makefile.ref, because it's dead. r=glandium.
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# [22:39] <decoder> RyanVM: just landed the symbolizer patch on aurora
# [22:39] <RyanVM> decoder: yay :)
# [22:40] <mcsmurf> khuey|away: if you remember your conversation with Fallen this morning about broken(?) JS syntax errors, I also seem to suffer from that on trunk (since two to three weeks maybe?); I'll try to find out more
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# [22:41] <mcsmurf> khuey|away: as in I have a syntax error in file #1 (JS module), file #2 wants to use the JS module; I just get in error console: "[module] is undefined"
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# [22:41] <mcsmurf> khuey|away: nothing about where the syntax error actually is
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# [22:45] <@njn> I have to disappear for a bit, but I figure that Unagi build failure on inbound isn't my fault? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=da99a2dc8b77 is a green try run for that patch from 12 hours ago
# [22:45] <KWierso|sheriffduty> bz: ping
# [22:46] <@njn> KWierso|sheriffduty: thanks for starring
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# [22:46] <KWierso|sheriffduty> njn: yep :)
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# [22:48] <RyanVM> bz: ping
# [22:48] <RyanVM> bz: is there an easy for this or just backout? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=28424422&tree=B2g-Inbound
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# [22:54] <mcsmurf> khuey|away: just fyi, looks like Bug 898811 and Bug 913519 from what I suffer
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# [22:55] <mcsmurf> khuey|away: hm, though...I'm in .js land (loaded via xul); whatever..
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# [22:57] <tbsaunde> does the stl have something for absolute diference better than std::abs(x - y) ?
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# [23:00] <froydnj> why would you need something better?
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# [23:01] <nalexander> froydnj: overflow?
# [23:01] <tbsaunde> froydnj: AbsoluteDifference(x, y) seems like it would be slightly nicer to me, but its certainly good enough
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# [23:03] <tbsaunde> not an issue here I really hope, but fair point
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# [23:27] <RyanVM> Benvie: bustage on fx-team again
# [23:28] <Benvie> damn
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# [23:28] <Benvie> this patch will be the end of me
# [23:28] <Benvie> sorry about that, back it out
# [23:29] <KWierso|sheriffduty> on it
# [23:29] <fitzgen> does anyone know why using importScripts() in a worker causes an exception in nsHandlerService.js to throw an error, and therefore my xpcshell tests to fail?
# [23:30] <fitzgen> but when I run my build or do mochitests, it is just fine
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# [23:32] <@dolske> RyanVM: pong, was at dentist
# [23:32] <RyanVM> dolske: that test_master_password.html orange is one of our most frequent at the moment
# [23:33] <RyanVM> we're probably going to have to disable the test before too long if it doesn't get some attention
# [23:33] <Asa> http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3782/9956697094_1a8f54e4f9_o.png
# [23:34] <@dolske> RyanVM: will reply in bug, bholley's change caused it, so...
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# [23:34] <RyanVM> dolske: thanks
# [23:35] <KWierso|sheriffduty> speaking of that bug...
# [23:35] <RyanVM> dolske: you already know this I'm sure, but unfortunately, being in the middle the whodunnit puts us in a bad spot
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# [23:36] <@dolske> I know.
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# [23:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c9bbf2e0e80b - Jeff Walden - Bug 920318 - Add a user-provided constructor to Token, so that the tokens() member initializer of TokenStream will zero the memory used by those tokens in MSVC 2013.
# [23:47] <firebot> (This is a compiler bug.) r=luke
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# [23:55] <WeirdAl> :'( XMLHttpRequest is not defined for bootstrap.js
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# [23:58] <grobinson> anybody know about matz coming to moz soon?
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