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- # [00:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a84bba784c9 - Steve Workman - Bug 853423 - Block speculative connections for local IP addresses r=mcmanus
- # [00:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/df399d443e57 - Steve Workman - Bug 853423 - Tests to verify speculative connection are blocked for local IP addresses r=mcmanus
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- # [00:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f0a3480a460 - Ehsan Akhgari - Forward declare gfxMatrix as a struct, no bug
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- # [01:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0e0775a2364 - Steve Workman - Backout 6a84bba784c9 and df399d443e57 (Bug 853423) for xpcshell failures
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- # [03:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/80d3dc6ec9cd - Cameron McCormack - No bug - Comment typo fixes in nsCSSProps.h. (DONTBUILD)
- # [03:41] <heycam> other people getting "Loading failed: parsererror (https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/builddata/buildjson/builds-running.js)" on tbpl?
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- # [05:48] <lxd> Tomcat|afk Your timezone being?
- # [05:50] <Tomcat|afk> lxd: germany :)
- # [05:50] <Tomcat|afk> just checking the trees :)
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- # [06:41] <TimAbraldes> if I change an IDL, is it necessary to update a uuid somewhere?
- # [06:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd81536b66d1 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 921795 - Make inDOMUtils::GetCSSValuesForProperty report "initial" not "-moz-initial". r=mina
- # [06:42] <TimAbraldes> (I'm adding functions to the interface)
- # [06:43] <heycam> TimAbraldes, I have a feeling adding functions at the end doesn't need the uuid to be updated
- # [06:43] <TimAbraldes> heycam: I'm adding them... in the middle?
- # [06:44] <heycam> TimAbraldes, then you should update it
- # [06:45] <TimAbraldes> heycam: just the one that appears in "[scriptable, uuid(this_is_the_one_to_update)]"?
- # [06:45] <TimAbraldes> firebot: uuid
- # [06:45] <firebot> b3ab2be5-20ce-4c9a-8775-9cb057ca3008 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
- # [06:46] <heycam> TimAbraldes, yeah, though I'd grep the tree for say the first bit of the uuid (before the dash), case insensitively, to see if there's anywhere else that needs updating
- # [06:46] <heycam> not sure if that's common for XPCOM interfaces
- # [06:46] <TimAbraldes> sounds smart... I did an mxr search for the whole uuid and only found the one match
- # [06:47] <heycam> ok, but see for example https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/style/nsIStyleRule.h#20 where the format can look a bit different
- # [06:48] <TimAbraldes> ok, I repeated the search with just the first part and still got only one hit
- # [06:48] <TimAbraldes> I'm definitely sending this to tryserver to be sure though :)
- # [06:48] <heycam> but again, not sure if you ever see uuid in .idl files as well as in source files
- # [06:48] <heycam> ok :)
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- # [07:01] <@dolske> generally you should always update the UUID in a .idl when changing it, and there won't be other references to it.
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- # [07:04] <@dolske> aiui, existing binary code essentially checks to see if it's the same version it was compiled agaist, and if it's different it can fail explicitly.
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- # [07:06] <@dolske> there are some subtle tricks about constants not needing a change, and it being possible to add interfaces to the end without changing it, but that's really only relevant if you're trying to fix things on beta/release and are trying to last-minue addon incompatabilities.
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- # [07:09] <heycam> yeah, since I don't really know the rules for when it is safe to leave the uuid as it is, I just bump it on any change
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- # [07:48] <Jesse> why does Object.getPrototypeOf(CSSRuleList) throw
- # [07:48] <Jesse> NS_ERROR_XPC_BAD_OP_ON_WN_PROTO
- # [07:50] <heycam> Jesse, is it the toString() on the result that's throwing?
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- # [07:51] <Jesse> yes
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- # [12:56] <WG9s> Ms2ger: ping
- # [12:56] <Ms2ger> Hi
- # [12:57] <WG9s> not sure it is strictly necessary to close the tree. although we are not seeing runing and pending builds, the results do seem to be showing up when they complete.
- # [12:57] <Ms2ger> Just want to be sure
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- # [12:58] <WG9s> also nice to know what is goinf on and are there aother systems affected though I guess
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- # [13:02] <WG9s> There are not usually a lot of checkins this time of day on a Sunday anyway, so I guess closing won't impact schedules.
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- # [13:03] <Ms2ger> I'd hope not :)
- # [13:04] <Ms2ger> Not even an uplift coming up
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- # [14:27] <avih> :/ firefox 24 just lost all my cookies (after login on about 5 sites i just checked) without crashing... (exited firefox normally, then minutes later started it - all looked normal - except for the gone cookies...)
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- # [14:37] <Jugurtha> Sorry for your loss, avih.
- # [14:37] <Jugurtha> Do you use Sync ?
- # [14:37] <avih> jgraham: yes
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- # [14:38] <Jugurtha> I used to e-mail myself the Bookmark (.json) file.
- # [14:39] <Jugurtha> I hated it when I lost that file. So many websites to remember. It helps I have a good memory, but still, it hurts :(
- # [14:39] <avih> i din't lose the bookmarks. i lost (i think) the cookies
- # [14:39] <Jugurtha> Have you checked the folder ?
- # [14:39] <avih> i.e. i was logged out of all sites which i checked for which i was logged in earlier
- # [14:39] <Jugurtha> .mozilla/firefox/
- # [14:40] <avih> Jugurtha: what problem are you trying to solve? and which folder are you referring to, and why?
- # [14:41] <Jugurtha> I'm not. I'm asking to see if you really lost the files and if one can not mitigate that.
- # [14:42] <avih> Jugurtha: which files you think i've lost?
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- # [14:44] <Jugurtha> Maybe cookies.sqlite and these sort of files ?
- # [14:45] <avih> and what would you deduce if this file is/isn't there?
- # [14:46] <Jugurtha> There may be a backup.
- # [14:46] <avih> do you know there should be a backup?
- # [14:46] <Jugurtha> It's not like there never was a file-1.json, file-2.json..
- # [14:47] <avih> the .1/.2.json files were bookmarks backup iirc. NOT cookies.
- # [14:47] <avih> my bookmarks are just fine.
- # [14:48] <avih> cookies are not.
- # [14:48] <Jugurtha> I'm just trying to see if it's irreversible.
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- # [14:49] <avih> but are you basing your suggestions on something you know? or just complete guesswork?
- # [14:50] <Jugurtha> It happened I lost a file and found a back-up of it. Is it that bad to make an analogy ?
- # [14:51] <Jugurtha> The worst that could happen is that I'm wrong, and your cookies can't be *more* deleted than they are based on what I'm saying.
- # [14:51] <Jugurtha> The other possibility is that we find something and you could restore your cookies.
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- # [16:13] <Ms2ger> Trees are open.
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- # [16:53] <Ms2ger> nsString state(aData);
- # [16:53] <Ms2ger> atoi((const char*)state.get())
- # [16:55] <Ms2ger> jesup, ping
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- # [16:56] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: O.O
- # [16:56] <Ms2ger> I'm wondering if I should complain in the bug or just backout
- # [16:57] <tbsaunde> can it be exploited? what bug is this?
- # [16:58] <Ms2ger> Bug 904025
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- # [17:04] <edmorley> Ms2ger: landed 16 days ago, oops - how did you notice?
- # [17:04] <Ms2ger> Working through my backlog :)
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- # [17:07] <edmorley> ah :-)
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- # [17:11] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: I don't think that's exploitable, even though its all kinds of awful
- # [17:11] <tbsaunde> I'd probably just file a bug for the atoi thing and another bug for not using the observer service here
- # [17:13] <tbsaunde> on the other hand b2g people don't seem to be fond of fixing crap code so maybe backing out makes sense
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- # [17:39] <reuben> Ms2ger++
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- # [17:52] <shacharz_laptop> Anyone knows why xhr2 has .open method and not just use the constructor for the input arguments?
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- # [17:55] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: nah, don't complain in the bug, that's my style :-P
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- # [17:55] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: do we support any big-endian devices?
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- # [18:15] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, let's assume not
- # [18:16] <Ms2ger> shacharz_laptop, because open() already existed?
- # [18:16] <Ms2ger> shacharz_laptop, also, the constructor
- # [18:16] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: well, just change the value of that constant to something > 9 and see when they notice ;-)
- # [18:16] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, clearly the tests would ca... Oh, right
- # [18:17] <hub> NeilAway: no.
- # [18:17] <hub> NeilAway: no big endian device
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- # [18:33] <reuben> NeilAway: how does making that constant > 9 break the code?
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- # [18:42] <Ms2ger> reuben, because 10 as a (little-endian) PRUnichar* is [1][null][0][null][null][null]
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- # [18:44] <reuben> huh
- # [18:44] <reuben> what kind of encoding is that?
- # [18:44] <NeilAway> UTF-16
- # [18:44] <NeilAway> well, UTF-16LE
- # [18:44] <reuben> ah
- # [18:44] <Ms2ger> PRUnichar is two bytes
- # [18:45] <reuben> utf-8 ftw
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- # [18:48] <Ms2ger> return void win.gViewSourceUtils.viewSource(uri, null, doc, line);
- # [18:48] * Ms2ger wonders what that does
- # [18:48] <evilpie> back in Germany, Germany
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- # [18:48] <evilpie> Ms2ger: did you take some actual vacations last week?
- # [18:49] <Ms2ger> Yeah
- # [18:49] <evilpie> awesome
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- # [18:50] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: I sort of wonder how that even compiles
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- # [18:51] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, eh, JS
- # [18:51] <tbsaunde> ah
- # [18:52] <reuben> isn't that just void(win.gView…)
- # [18:52] <reuben> "This operator allows inserting expressions that produce side effects into places where an expression that evaluates to undefined is desired."
- # [18:53] <Ms2ger> So it's just
- # [18:53] <Ms2ger> win.gViewSourceUtils.viewSource(uri, null, doc, line);
- # [18:53] <Ms2ger> return;
- # [18:53] <Ms2ger> ?
- # [18:53] <reuben> yep :P
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- # [18:54] <Ms2ger> That's pretty ridiculous
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- # [19:03] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: it's an operator so it doesn't need parentheses
- # [19:04] * NeilAway found that out in JSConfEU 2011
- # [19:04] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: dholbert complained about a similar paradigm in C++ - void bar(); void foo() { return bar(); }
- # [19:06] <@smaug> whaat, mxr is down?
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- # [19:07] <KWierso> smaug: switch work in scl3
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- # [19:07] <KWierso> dunno if mxr is affected
- # [19:07] <@smaug> aha
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- # [19:07] <@smaug> no reviewing today then
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- # [19:11] <Ms2ger> Looks like people is dead too
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- # [19:14] <nigelb> Ms2ger: And bugzilla too.
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- # [19:18] <reuben> people is back
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- # [19:18] <Ms2ger> Apparently this prof is going to be talking about "the number of (pubic) routers"
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- # [19:19] <KWierso> tmi
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- # [19:21] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: great another highly dubious js feature \O/
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- # [19:22] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: all the occurrences of \breturn[ ]void[ ] appear to be in devtools
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- # [19:29] <jesup_mac> I hate wifi.... 2336 packets transmitted, 2297 packets received, 1.7% packet --- round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.891/2724.251/35426.453/6270.403 ms
- # [19:29] <jesup_mac> max ping time == 35 *seconds*
- # [19:29] <jesup_mac> Makes browsing a bit iffy
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- # [19:35] <Ms2ger> Ah, jesup_mac
- # [19:37] <jesup_mac> avg ping of almost 3 seconds isn't wonderful either. (and the rate is generally around 50+Mbps and signal around -55db (not bad)) Thing is, it's usually good, but gets periodic bumps (150-1000ms), and periodic dropouts or multi-second bufferings http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3167384
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- # [20:04] <tonymec> hg.mozilla.org seems to be down, also when checked via http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
- # [20:05] <Ms2ger> tonymec, switch work in scl3
- # [20:06] <CounterPillow> Maybe it was the revenge of the ghost of MNG
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- # [20:10] <dougt> Ms2ger: eta?
- # [20:10] <Ms2ger> No idea
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- # [20:11] <Ms2ger> START TIME: 1000 PDT (1700 UTC)
- # [20:11] <Ms2ger> ESTIMATED END TIME: 1500 PDT (2200 UTC)
- # [20:11] <CounterPillow> Is that scheduled maintenance?
- # [20:11] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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- # [20:12] <CounterPillow> Can't you set at least the bugtracker to read-only or something?
- # [20:12] <Ms2ger> Not if the wiring to the server that hosts it is down, I guess
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- # [20:13] <CounterPillow> Services like cloudflare would keep a cache
- # [20:13] <Ms2ger> Perhaps
- # [20:13] <Ms2ger> "If you have any questions or concerns please address them to netops@mozilla.com."
- # [20:15] <dougt> should have updated last night.
- # [20:15] <CounterPillow> It's night now in Australia.
- # [20:15] <dougt> do they have access to hg right now :p
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- # [20:27] <capella> ah muck ... no MXR?
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- # [20:27] <dougt> or bugzilla
- # [20:28] <vlad> is bugzilla d.. ah.
- # [20:28] <dougt> it's kind of sad, really.
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- # [20:28] <nrc> Does this mean I can take Monday off?
- # [20:28] <dougt> no, get back to work.
- # [20:28] <dougt> :)
- # [20:28] <vlad> 5 hr scheduled maintenance? I guess there really isn't nay good time, but week before summit?
- # [20:28] * nrc curses IT scheduling things on US Sunday rather than Saturday
- # [20:29] <nrc> And on a workday for some people
- # [20:29] * nrc grumbles some
- # [20:29] <nrc> more
- # [20:29] <capella> but my brain wants to keep working ... it's not full yet
- # [20:29] <Ms2ger> vlad, "emergency downtime"
- # [20:29] <dougt> was it emergency?
- # [20:29] <dougt> i thought it was scheduled.
- # [20:29] <CounterPillow> scheduled emergency
- # [20:29] <dougt> hah.
- # [20:30] * nrc grumbles a bit less if it is an emergency
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- # [20:30] <dougt> nsm|awayTillSunday: are you around?
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- # [20:31] <Ms2ger> dougt, scheduled on Thursday, claimed to be an emergency :)
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- # [21:24] <evilpie> Ms2ger: apparently there are shuttles for the summit, so my train ticket was useless
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- # [21:45] <CounterPillow> So the summit is only for people who were invited?
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- # [21:46] <jesup_mac> CounterPillow: yes
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- # [21:49] <CounterPillow> Any specific reason for that?
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- # [21:51] <reuben> CounterPillow: #mozsummit is a better channel to ask that
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- # [21:51] <CounterPillow> Eh, whatever, I don't really care.
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- # [21:53] <mcsmurf> I think invite-only is ok, maybe could also invite not-so-involved Mozillians to join at their own costs
- # [21:53] <jesup_mac> CounterPillow: we have events (including one soon in England) all over the world that are open; we recently started doing regional events to make it easier for people to get to and particpate. But the summit is a different sort of thing, and only done every several years (last was 2010, and almost was the last one as the community has gotten too big for meeting in one site. We also got rid...
- # [21:53] <jesup_mac> ...of internal MoCo/MoFo "All Hands" events a few times a year for similar reasons (last was Sept. 2011)
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- # [21:53] <mcsmurf> but then venue capacity is limited
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- # [22:00] <evilpie> I think of the new summit as the reincarnation of mozcamp with all employees
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- # [22:01] <reuben> not all, though
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- # [22:01] <evilpie> actually almost all
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- # [22:02] <evilpie> oh I should mention that there is of course volunteers, but that what the mozcamps where about I think
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- # [22:03] <nrc> I think employees are about half the attendance at the summits
- # [22:03] <Ms2ger> A third
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- # [22:03] <nrc> there ya go
- # [22:03] <Ms2ger> If I recall the numbers correctly
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- # [22:04] <mcsmurf> evilpie: can you comment on Bug 913519 Comment 2 and 3 please? :-)
- # [22:04] <evilpie> work Oo
- # [22:04] <mcsmurf> just hit the issue again, just wondering if my issue is part of this bug or not
- # [22:04] <mcsmurf> !
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- # [22:06] <evilpie> can you check if there error appears if you set javascript.options.parallel_parsing to false?
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- # [22:06] <evilpie> 1100 employees and 880 contributors are in the summit excel sheet
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- # [22:07] <Ms2ger> 1100 employees? Where did those all come from?
- # [22:07] <evilpie> hiring ;)
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- # [22:07] <nrc> A fair few of those are dups, actually
- # [22:07] <mcsmurf> evilpie: ok, yeah, it does
- # [22:07] <nrc> If we're looking at the same sheet, anyway
- # [22:07] <evilpie> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmwZL-gS9ZMmdDhNX3pGNDNHcmcxQ3BxOTFsQ3FfZlE#gid=1
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- # [22:08] <evilpie> mcsmurf: by that you mean the error appears?
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- # [22:08] <mcsmurf> yes
- # [22:08] <evilpie> Can you please comment with that info in the bug? I think that is a pretty strong indicator that this bug is not actually fixed, at least in your case
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- # [22:09] <mcsmurf> ok
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- # [22:10] <evilpie> holy shit thinkpad chargers are expensive
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- # [22:11] <nrc> and heavy
- # [22:11] <evilpie> indeed
- # [22:11] <evilpie> you could use it as a wipe and kill people
- # [22:12] <evilpie> oh okay amazon has it cheaper, should probably not order from lenovo.com
- # [22:12] <nrc> that is certainly tempting, sometimes
- # [22:12] <nrc> I have a spare I could give you, but I will be at the wrong summit :-(
- # [22:13] <nrc> And it would probably take me over my baggage limit
- # [22:13] <reuben> lol, that heavy?
- # [22:13] <reuben> that reminds me, I should pack :V
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- # [22:13] <nrc> I exaggerate
- # [22:13] <nrc> slightly
- # [22:13] <evilpie> yeah you would think that we had some spare ones
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- # [22:19] <Ms2ger> nrc, get back to work ;)
- # [22:20] <nrc> Try is open?
- # [22:20] <nrc> Happy days!
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- # [22:46] <@smaug> bad regressions are too common
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- # [23:41] <cpearce> why doesn't nsAutoArrayPtr store the length of the array, like a civilized array ADT?
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- # [23:44] <@smaug> it is just [] version of nsAutoPtr
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- # [23:48] <tbsaunde> if you wanted more than an auto pointer why wouldn't you use TArray?
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- # [23:53] <cpearce> for the delete[] in the destructor
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- # [23:58] <tbsaunde> cpearce: what, you need to allocate the array with new[] and can't just use a veector?
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