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  6. # [00:03] <Ghost_Of_JNG> Why did you murder me?! AVENGE ME
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  22. # [00:13] <clb> hey, anyone here on Windows and Firefox? does this crash your browser? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/40949268/emcc/bugs/InputTest_crash/InputTest_d.html
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  26. # [00:15] <fsc> clb: im sporting firefox 24 on windows and it doesnt crash
  27. # [00:15] <clb> hmhmh, thanks fsc
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  30. # [00:16] <TheOne> clb: does not crash on 26 either
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  33. # [00:17] <clb> hmmh, reboot time
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  46. # [00:28] <ted> philor: sorry, didn't realize that was necessary :-/
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  130. # [02:26] <pyBlob> I'm trying to update an old gecko embedding example, but some header-files were removed, can you help me find them?
  131. # [02:26] <pyBlob> "nsEmbedAPI.h"
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  139. # [02:33] <pyBlob> What can I use instead of "nsEmbedAPI.h"?
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  143. # [02:37] <reuben> bbouvier: gfx did that at least once, let me dig up the commit
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  145. # [02:38] <reuben> bbouvier: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ee5ca214e87c warning: very large page
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  163. # [02:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a98a45e180f6 - Doug Turner - Bug 928217 - Enable core location geolocation conditionally. r=jdm/smichaud
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  175. # [03:08] <pyBlob> I need a neat example that shows how to embed gecko into a simple window on windows to show a nice website!
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  177. # [03:09] <pyBlob> currently I've only got the winEmbed/mfcEmbed ... but they're using gecko <2.0, which means they're far from being compatible with a recent gecko
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  180. # [03:16] <reuben> oh boy, embedding
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  193. # [03:34] <pyBlob> oh reuben, ... a code that embeds something would be more usefull
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  215. # [03:57] <nigelb> Morning.
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  225. # [04:12] <nigelb> philor: should I retrigger the connection failure? (I noticed that you have)
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  227. # [04:13] <philor> nigelb: yes
  228. # [04:14] <nigelb> Starred and retriggered.
  229. # [04:14] <nigelb> (I think)
  230. # [04:15] <@khuey> are we going to have a sheriff that works asian hours now?
  231. # [04:15] <nigelb> once I know everything involved, hopefully, yes.
  232. # [04:16] <nigelb> or at least, that's the general idea.
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  235. # [04:18] <@khuey> cool
  236. # [04:18] <@khuey> the lack of coverage is a bit annoying
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  243. # [04:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/06cc867fd5d1 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 925068: Bookmarks folders are lost on rotation. [r=lucasr]
  244. # [04:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/89914159a708 - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-c to f-t
  245. # [04:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/92c512181d1c - Robert Strong - bug 928489 - Bug 928489 - Disable update xml certificate checks on Windows. r=bbondy
  246. # [04:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4cec7d72e003 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 924463 - clean up browser/components moz.build/test manifest, r=gps
  247. # [04:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b37785254785 - Jacob Clark - Bug 928315 - Adding functionlity to allow Shift+Enter to search backwards in the debugger, r=vporof
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  252. # [04:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b37785254785 - Jacob Clark - Bug 928315 - Adding functionlity to allow Shift+Enter to search backwards in the debugger, r=vporof
  253. # [04:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/89914159a708 - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-c to f-t
  254. # [04:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/06cc867fd5d1 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 925068: Bookmarks folders are lost on rotation. [r=lucasr]
  255. # [04:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4cec7d72e003 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 924463 - clean up browser/components moz.build/test manifest, r=gps
  256. # [04:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7823e2985daf - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-i to m-c
  257. # [04:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92c512181d1c - Robert Strong - bug 928489 - Bug 928489 - Disable update xml certificate checks on Windows. r=bbondy
  258. # [04:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e3900ae8b35 - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-c to m-i
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  287. # [05:08] <@khuey> I love it when I send email to an @mozilla.com alias and get back a bunch of bounce messages
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  292. # [05:12] <+benjamin> we all get our kicks somehow
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  297. # [05:16] <nigelb> benjamin++
  298. # [05:20] <hub> khuey: like vacation auto responders?
  299. # [05:21] <@khuey> hub: no, like "this is no longer a valid email address" bounces
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  303. # [05:27] <hub> khuey: ouch
  304. # [05:27] <hub> khuey: one would think the alias would be automatically updated
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  309. # [05:30] <@khuey> hub: I suspect it's some cron job that runs weekly or something
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  316. # [05:45] <nigelb> philor: the mochitest-5 on fx-team that you kept retriggering happened again. I notice the retriggers. I filed it. Er, I hope I didn't do anything spectacularly wrong.
  317. # [05:45] <nigelb> *I didn't notice the retriggers until I filed it
  318. # [05:47] <philor> nigelb: nope, nothing wrong with filing it, I was just hoping that if I ignored it it would never be seen again
  319. # [05:47] <philor> an unlikely hope at best
  320. # [05:48] <nigelb> indeed.
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  322. # [05:54] <nigelb> Is it just me or is there an unusually high number of connection failures today?
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  327. # [06:06] <philor> nope, pretty normal rate
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  332. # [06:12] <nigelb> Heh
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  406. # [07:54] <reuben> philor: it's my reusable pointer-to-gaia-PR attachment. whenever I'm changing gaia I go to bugzilla to attach a patch, then realize how gaia patches work and automatically type killme in the attachment box, so it gets selected right away
  407. # [07:54] <glob> reuben, you're attaching github PR's as html?
  408. # [07:54] <glob> eww
  409. # [07:55] <philor> reuben: yeah, but I like how it expresses my usual attitude while writing patches :)
  410. # [07:55] <glob> reuben, paste in the github url as text, bugzilla will automatically redirect when viewing
  411. # [07:55] <reuben> glob: whoa there, don't try to make it easier, that'll make even more people use github
  412. # [07:56] <glob> reuben, my job is not to keep people on bugzilla, rather to make bugzilla better
  413. # [07:56] <reuben> glob: jokes aside, that's good to know, I'll use it next time :)
  414. # [07:56] <glob> reuben, it means it'll be counted as a patch on your user profile :)
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  417. # [07:59] <bbouvier> reuben: thanks for the commit message! I'll do something like that
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  420. # [08:00] <reuben> bbouvier: np
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  435. # [08:13] <nigelb> Morning tomatoeblue
  436. # [08:13] <nigelb> erm
  437. # [08:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning
  438. # [08:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning nigelb :)
  439. # [08:13] <nigelb> Tomcat|sheriffduty: that good morning wwas meant for you :P
  440. # [08:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh
  441. # [08:13] <nigelb> I need more tea :)
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  566. # [10:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/230b8bcc394d - Arnaud Bienner - Bug 917917 - Make the Gtk color picker modal. r=karlt
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  571. # [10:22] <NeilAway> glob: docs on external patch links?
  572. # [10:22] <glob> NeilAway, wat
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  575. # [10:24] <NeilAway> glob: <glob> paste in the github url as text, bugzilla will automatically redirect when viewing
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  577. # [10:26] <@khuey> oh man
  578. # [10:26] <@khuey> we're losing millions of users per hour
  579. # [10:26] <glob> NeilAway, do you mean "do you have any documentation about how the github url bugzilla redirection works?"
  580. # [10:26] <glob> khuey, oh?
  581. # [10:26] <@khuey> I love users
  582. # [10:26] <@khuey> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=914690#c34
  583. # [10:26] <Gijs> khuey: hmm?
  584. # [10:27] <glob> NeilAway, or as you asking about linking to external docs
  585. # [10:27] <NeilAway> glob: well, I'd never heard of any redirection, so I didn't know it was specific to github
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  587. # [10:28] <glob> NeilAway, i'll throw together a blog post. the tl;dr is pretty well what i wrote -- attach/paste a github pull-request url and bmo will redirect to it when viewing
  588. # [10:28] <glob> khuey, oh noes
  589. # [10:29] <@khuey> glob: I calculate that by this time next week we will have negative users
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  591. # [10:29] <glob> lol
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  593. # [10:29] <glob> excellent
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  596. # [10:30] <nrc> our life would be so much easier
  597. # [10:31] <glob> TIL "Java is one of the three core technologies behind dynamic content"
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  602. # [10:32] <dholbert> glob, interesting; perhaps we should consider rewriting bugzilla in this fancy new Java language
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  604. # [10:33] <darktrojan> khuey, oh no!
  605. # [10:33] <darktrojan> not users
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  607. # [10:33] <darktrojan> they're all we had left after we lost our sanity and credibility
  608. # [10:34] <@khuey> dholbert++
  609. # [10:34] <@khuey> for excellent trolling
  610. # [10:34] <dholbert> why thank you
  611. # [10:34] <glob> brb, rewriting bugzilla
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  643. # [10:54] <glob> stahp
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  666. # [11:02] <glob> NeilAway, https://globau.wordpress.com/2013/10/21/github-pull-requests-and-bugzilla/
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  672. # [11:06] <NeilAway> glob: ta
  673. # [11:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a98a45e180f6 - Doug Turner - Bug 928217 - Enable core location geolocation conditionally. r=jdm/smichaud
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  675. # [11:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b24213ae8b68 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 928712 - Remove the rest of the unneeded prtypes.h inclusions; rs=bsmedberg
  676. # [11:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2e3900ae8b35 - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-c to m-i
  677. # [11:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/23c23b472a4f - Chris Pearce - Bug 928765 - Create MediaDecoderReader::GetBuffered() base implementation that estimates buffered ranges, so that subclasses do have to keep reimplementing the estimation. r=doublec
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  737. # [11:34] <clb> smaug: thanks for pointing to the relevant code yesterday, it was quite straightforward to add the 4&5button support in
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  744. # [11:35] <clb> also .preventDefault() seems to work ok, so I can suppress the back/forward navigation and use the buttons for game input
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  786. # [12:06] <decoder> edmorley: what exactly should I look at (Re bug 925873) ?
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  790. # [12:07] <edmorley> decoder: Making ASan jobs not print unhelpful errors in the log and so not meet this requirement https://wiki.mozilla.org/Sheriffing/Job_Visibility_Policy#6.29_Outputs_failures_in_a_TBPL-starrable_format
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  792. # [12:08] <edmorley> decoder: comment 0 sums it up :-)
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  794. # [12:08] <decoder> edmorley: I cannot influence how asan outputs it's errors. the errors should be symbolized (and I think they are now?) but out-of-process traces are out of my reach. if firefox starts another process and doesnt inherit the environment, there is nothing I can do
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  796. # [12:08] <decoder> but tbpl can surely be changed to recognize ASan traces
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  798. # [12:08] <decoder> but im not a tbpl developer
  799. # [12:09] <edmorley> decoder: this is nothing to do with TBPL
  800. # [12:09] <edmorley> decoder: the log needs useful errors
  801. # [12:09] <edmorley> decoder: TBPL just parses the log
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  804. # [12:09] <decoder> edmorley: there is *no* way to provide that. do you realize how the log outputting works in the test frameworks?
  805. # [12:09] <edmorley> decoder: sounds like whatever harness/wrapper we are using needs to generate summaries from the log
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  807. # [12:09] <decoder> we dont have that
  808. # [12:09] <decoder> that is the basic problem
  809. # [12:09] <decoder> there is no harness/wrapper
  810. # [12:10] <Ms2ger> Then we should add one? :)
  811. # [12:10] <edmorley> decoder: we do
  812. # [12:10] <decoder> edmorley: no we dont. mochitest has one. we dont have a generic one
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  814. # [12:10] <decoder> ive asked ted about this already
  815. # [12:10] <edmorley> decoder: well, we do in the sense that we already have to search the log to generate crash summaries etc
  816. # [12:10] <edmorley> decoder: I'll find some examples
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  818. # [12:10] <decoder> okay
  819. # [12:10] <decoder> Ms2ger: problem is, it wouldn't be one, but one per test harness, and that's really complex
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  821. # [12:11] <edmorley> decoder: I didn't realise the output in the log was directly from ASan, I thought it was from whatever harness/wrapper was being used
  822. # [12:11] <edmorley> decoder: automation.py.in
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  825. # [12:12] <decoder> edmorley: I know the part in automation.py.in that symbolizes traces. but only mochitests and crashtests use it. the rest doesnt
  826. # [12:12] <decoder> or is there a more generic part im missing?
  827. # [12:12] <glazou> anyone here with firefox for android on his cellphone willing to help me on a trivial thing?
  828. # [12:12] <decoder> edmorley: and yes, the traces outputted in the log are directly from asan (directly from the program, on stderr)
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  830. # [12:13] <decoder> the only wrapper I can see in between that and tbpl is the one that puts a timestamp in front of all the output
  831. # [12:13] <edmorley> decoder: I was under the impression most harnesses went through automation.py.in, but I could be wrong - particularly with many platforms now using mozharness
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  833. # [12:13] <decoder> edmorley: last time I asked ted, that wasnt the case, no
  834. # [12:13] <edmorley> decoder: ok
  835. # [12:14] <edmorley> decoder: maybe email auto-tools@ for ideas?
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  838. # [12:14] <edmorley> decoder: it's just that at the moment, ASan doesn't really meet the requirements for being in the default view
  839. # [12:15] <edmorley> decoder: and I would like to avoid hiding it again
  840. # [12:15] <decoder> edmorley: that is really short notice given that it's already running for at least a month now?
  841. # [12:15] <decoder> asan is not my only goal
  842. # [12:15] <edmorley> decoder: I wasn't meaning immediately
  843. # [12:15] <clb> kamidphish: oh thanks for the update
  844. # [12:15] <clb> did you do a lot of changes?
  845. # [12:16] <clb> I am very interested in taking a look, since my vtune+nsight profiling tells me that CPU+GPU are walking in lockstep during a rendering frame already in simpler scenarios where that shouldn't happen, and it's hurting a bit
  846. # [12:16] <decoder> edmorley: there is also the border where stuff leaves my area of responsibility. I think ateam should also help with this. I cannot do everything on my own
  847. # [12:16] <glandium> jesup: pong
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  849. # [12:17] <edmorley> decoder: I can sympathise, but it's not something I either have the knowledge or time to fix myself - and the whole reason we have the visibility policy is to help people know what the requirements are
  850. # [12:17] <clb> kamidphish: oh unfortunately I'm in a bit of a hurry, have to leave now - but I'd like to catch up at some point. I'll ping you on this topic in a while
  851. # [12:18] <edmorley> decoder: one of those requirements is a job type having an active owner
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  853. # [12:18] <decoder> edmorley: when we made asan visible, we explicitely asked what we need to do, and this was not on the list for a long time, thats what Im saying
  854. # [12:18] <decoder> you said, it's ok as it is
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  856. # [12:18] <edmorley> decoder: that item was on the requirements list already
  857. # [12:18] <decoder> where?
  858. # [12:19] <edmorley> decoder: I hadn't seen enough failing job logs to know it hadn't been met
  859. # [12:19] <decoder> the bug was filed on oct 11
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  861. # [12:19] <edmorley> decoder: 11:04:10 - edmorley: decoder: Making ASan jobs not print unhelpful errors in the log and so not meet this requirement https://wiki.mozilla.org/Sheriffing/Job_Visibility_Policy#6.29_Outputs_failures_in_a_TBPL-starrable_format
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  864. # [12:19] <edmorley> decoder: the wiki item
  865. # [12:19] <decoder> we had dozens of intermittents right when we started
  866. # [12:19] <decoder> i know the wiki
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  868. # [12:19] <edmorley> decoder: yeah but there are obviously edge cases
  869. # [12:20] <decoder> what you are mentioning isnt an edge case. it is the case for *every* trace
  870. # [12:20] <decoder> it was never different
  871. # [12:20] <edmorley> decoder: I am not in the slightest bit familiar with ASan traces, all I know is what is in the bug
  872. # [12:20] <decoder> this doesnt have to do with asan traces
  873. # [12:20] <edmorley> decoder: I haven't studied the logs
  874. # [12:21] <decoder> the trace itself is emitted by the application
  875. # [12:21] <decoder> not by any framework around it
  876. # [12:21] <edmorley> decoder: yes I gathered
  877. # [12:21] <edmorley> yes
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  879. # [12:21] <decoder> it might be possible to make it work for stuff using the automation in automation.py.in
  880. # [12:21] <decoder> but not for the rest (but crashes for the rest also dont work, so there shouldnt be a difference)
  881. # [12:21] <edmorley> decoder: I need to get on with other stuff now - would it be ok just to send an email to auto-tools@ in the next few days to see what ideas they have?
  882. # [12:22] <decoder> edmorley: i know their stance on this already. I think they're trying to migrate all of the stuff to use one automation. but I cannot do that work for them
  883. # [12:22] <edmorley> decoder: we can't block this on that
  884. # [12:22] <decoder> well, crashes are behaving the same, arent they?
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  887. # [12:23] <decoder> or are crashes starrable on all tests, including the build?
  888. # [12:23] <edmorley> decoder: I really can't remember at this point
  889. # [12:23] <decoder> (in the same way)
  890. # [12:23] <decoder> i think they're not
  891. # [12:23] <edmorley> decoder: I just remember there being issues and philor filed the bug
  892. # [12:23] <decoder> edmorley: im saying we shouldnt apply more strict rules to asan, than to normal crashes
  893. # [12:23] <edmorley> decoder: we aren't
  894. # [12:23] <decoder> if the normal crash processing for e.g. compiled tests isnt working, then it cannot work for asan either
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  896. # [12:24] <decoder> compiled tests was one thing that didnt use the automation afaik
  897. # [12:24] <decoder> maybe they changed it though
  898. # [12:24] <edmorley> decoder: but look, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=29393777&tree=Profiling doesn't output a sensible failure
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  900. # [12:24] <edmorley> decoder: please can you just read the bug... it's pretty clear? :-)
  901. # [12:24] <decoder> edmorley: i asked philor about this already
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  903. # [12:25] <decoder> and he said there are no symbols because it's on the profiling tree
  904. # [12:25] <edmorley> decoder: oh?
  905. # [12:25] <decoder> i dont know how that is connected
  906. # [12:25] <edmorley> decoder: but https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=28903669&tree=Fx-Team isn't on the profiling tree and has the same problem
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  908. # [12:25] <decoder> edmorley: when you see them on central/inbound, can you paste some of them to the bug, just for reference?
  909. # [12:25] <edmorley> ^
  910. # [12:25] <decoder> looking
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  912. # [12:25] <edmorley> ty :-)
  913. # [12:26] <edmorley> decoder: that log was in comment 0 of the bug fwiw
  914. # [12:26] <decoder> symbols is another thing though, thats not what the bug is talking about
  915. # [12:26] <decoder> and symbols are supposed to be working since several weeks now
  916. # [12:26] <edmorley> decoder: I really don't know what the issue is, I just know it's not meeting the requirements
  917. # [12:26] <edmorley> decoder: all I am asking, is as owner of the ASan suite, could you drive this? :-)
  918. # [12:26] <decoder> aah
  919. # [12:26] <decoder> one second
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  921. # [12:27] <decoder> this looks interesting
  922. # [12:27] <decoder> yes, ill look at that trace. but i cannot make promises, there seems to be a big problem here:
  923. # [12:28] <decoder> 1. the stuff is unsymbolized 2. there is no FAIL ??
  924. # [12:28] <edmorley> decoder: great, thank you :-)
  925. # [12:28] <decoder> the thing is, when ASan finds an error, it terminates the process
  926. # [12:28] <decoder> i thought terminating the process is always an error?
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  928. # [12:30] <decoder> edmorley: the profiling log one does contain a case though where I cannot do much right now, and that's out-of-process. if people are starting arbitrary processes with their own environment (rather than inheriting the current), that's probably out of my reach. but that doesnt seem the case in the fx-team one
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  930. # [12:30] <decoder> also that should be a rare case for now
  931. # [12:30] <decoder> ill focus on the fx-team one first
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  933. # [12:32] <edmorley> decoder: thank you :-)
  934. # [12:33] <decoder> ted: ping
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  938. # [12:35] <decoder> edmorley: crashed = self.checkForCrashes(os.path.join(profileDir, "minidumps"), symbolsPath)
  939. # [12:35] <decoder> uh uh^^
  940. # [12:35] <decoder> checking for a crash by expecting a minidump isnt the best assumption i think
  941. # [12:36] <dholbert> dolske++ @ https://twitter.com/dolske/status/392178026319855616
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  943. # [12:37] <edmorley> decoder: I think there are also checks for non-zero return code and early termination fwiw
  944. # [12:37] <edmorley> decoder: outside of mozcrash
  945. # [12:37] <decoder> edmorley: i was expecting that too.. but obviously that doesnt seem to work. the default behavior of asan on error is: 1. output trace 2. terminate with exit(1)
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  949. # [12:38] <decoder> thats why it was supposed to work (and is working most of the time i think)
  950. # [12:38] <decoder> or is it happening on all traces now?
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  953. # [12:39] <decoder> edmorley: if it's happening on all the traces you see, maybe something was changed in automation?
  954. # [12:39] <decoder> would be good to know
  955. # [12:41] <edmorley> decoder: I'd have to open random logs on TBPL and look, I'm not sure (I see too many intermittent failures a day to remember specific cases sadly (and playing catch up with bugmail now, was away thurs/fri last week)
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  961. # [12:43] <decoder> edmorley: okay. ill see if I can find a case where it's still working. if I cannot then this must have been regressed by someone else
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  963. # [12:43] <decoder> or maybe I should push to try with a known failure :D
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  967. # [12:44] <edmorley> decoder: ah yeah!
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  973. # [12:49] <decoder> edmorley: i pushed https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=7b29fc63d28d with some failures that are known to be tbpl-starrable and symbolized. If the error occurs there now, then we can be sure someone else broke it
  974. # [12:49] <edmorley> decoder: great :-)
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  991. # [13:01] <nicklebedev> Hi guys, does someone have problems with metro build currently?
  992. # [13:01] <nicklebedev> i'm getting error "nsWinMetroUtils.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol __imp__CryptProtectData@28 referenced in function "public: virtual enum tag_nsresult __stdcall mozilla::widget::nsWinMetroUtils::StoreSyncInfo"
  993. # [13:02] <jdm> #windev might know more
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  996. # [13:04] <Gijs> How do I know whether or not MozAfterPaint has fired or not? :)
  997. # [13:06] <jdm> MozAfterAfterPaint
  998. # [13:06] <jdm> (kidding)
  999. # [13:06] <Gijs> jdm: I mean, is there something like document.readyState that I can use to check in what state a document is? :)
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  1001. # [13:07] <Gijs> if it helps, I'm in the main browser window, and I basically need to know whether or not _delayedStartup has run already or not
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  1003. # [13:07] <Gijs> I could check for the side effects of that function, but that's a little ugly... :\
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  1005. # [13:08] <mcsmurf> does not sound like setting dom.send_after_paint_to_content to true is an option ;)
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  1009. # [13:11] <Gijs> mcsmurf: I'm chrome, so that doesn't matter. :)
  1010. # [13:11] <mcsmurf> shouldn't chrome receive this event anyway?
  1011. # [13:11] <Gijs> It does.
  1012. # [13:11] <mcsmurf> ooh sr
  1013. # [13:11] <mcsmurf> y
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  1015. # [13:12] <mcsmurf> now I see your problem...
  1016. # [13:12] <Gijs> The point is, I need to know whether it has fired *already*. No point adding a listener for it or something.
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  1039. # [13:27] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty, if bug 928635 is closing the tree, then bug 850430 should probably be backed out
  1040. # [13:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: ^
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  1042. # [13:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bkelly: yeah possible but zac told me they will fix this today
  1043. # [13:28] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty, we're finding more breakage in gaia that isn't being caught by the tests as well
  1044. # [13:29] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty, we're trying, but it could take the better part of the day to get it all sorted
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  1047. # [13:29] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty, particular since some of the peers in gaia contacts will be unavailable due to travel, etc
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  1049. # [13:29] <edmorley> bkelly: could we disable some of the failing tests for now?
  1050. # [13:29] <bkelly> edmorley, thats been discussed as well... I think Rik was looking at that
  1051. # [13:30] <bkelly> edmorley, would that be the better way to go? I'm not sure
  1052. # [13:30] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah bkelly i think the recent failures are also related to bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=927404#c17
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  1055. # [13:30] <bkelly> at some point we have to bite the bullet and make the webidl transition... will probably be painful whenever we do it
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  1057. # [13:31] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty, we had three commits on friday/weekend that began breaking stuff in gaia-ui-tests... bug 927404, bug 850430, and a third one which has been backed out
  1058. # [13:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah ok
  1059. # [13:31] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty, disambiguating them is fun
  1060. # [13:32] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
  1061. # [13:32] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bkelly: so far for the tests on b2g-inbound there seems to be 2 failures
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  1063. # [13:32] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty, edmorley, I defer to you guys on whether backout or hiding failures is better
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  1066. # [13:32] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> oh well more
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  1069. # [13:34] <decoder> edmorley: ted helped me figuring out whats going on. it seems that the mochitest harness doesnt print a TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL if the process exits with non-zero exit code. it prints a T-FAIL causing orange though. he suggested we change the log message
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  1077. # [13:38] <edmorley> decoder: ah great :-)
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  1094. # [13:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/858e3e2130c9 - Tim Taubert - Bug 928787 - Convert in-content preference style sheets to LF; r=jaws
  1095. # [13:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c6fc35c53c37 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Merge fx-team to Mozilla-Central
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  1102. # [13:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/858e3e2130c9 - Tim Taubert - Bug 928787 - Convert in-content preference style sheets to LF; r=jaws
  1103. # [13:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/52c63ece820a - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Merge mozilla-central to mozilla-inbound
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  1116. # [13:55] <Rik> bkelly: if a lot of problems are because the new mozcontact is stricter, then we should update Gaia before landing the Gecko changes
  1117. # [13:55] <bkelly> Rik, I can't argue with that
  1118. # [13:56] <Rik> bkelly: so backing out sounds more and more ok to me
  1119. # [13:57] <Ms2ger> Don't forget to clobber
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  1121. # [13:57] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: btw merges done (but not doing b2g-inbound so far due the tree closure)
  1122. # [13:58] <Yoric> Wow, 120 minutes to build from clobber under Windows :/
  1123. # [13:58] * Yoric should read glandium's dev-platform post.
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  1126. # [14:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/133da7f93040 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 928879 - Move SVGTextContextPaint to nsSVGTextFrame2.h/.cpp. r=heycam
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  1131. # [14:03] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thanks! :)
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  1135. # [14:06] <ted> hm, looks like i'm going to have to check that "never email me about this bug" checkbox for bug 914690
  1136. # [14:06] <@khuey> ted: WE'RE LOSING MILLIONS OF USERS PER HOUR
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  1139. # [14:07] <ted> millions of *java* users
  1140. # [14:07] <ted> this is a feature
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  1145. # [14:08] <NeilAway> ttaubert: hmm, is this fallout from mozillabuild's vim creating files with DOS line endings by default?
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  1161. # [14:24] <decoder> edmorley: i confirmed that my try run shows the broken behavior too.. *AND* symbolizing is broken..
  1162. # [14:24] <decoder> i wonder what/who broke that
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  1165. # [14:26] <jwatt> decoder: I'm having problems getting an asan build: ld: file not found: /Users/jw/bin/../lib/clang/3.3/lib/darwin/libclang_rt.asan_osx_dynamic.dylib
  1166. # [14:26] <jwatt> decoder: would you know anything about that offhand?
  1167. # [14:27] <mcsmurf> blassey: re Bug 780379 I think the patch author checked in the wrong patch
  1168. # [14:27] <decoder> jwatt: is that try or locally?
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  1170. # [14:27] <jwatt> decoder: local
  1171. # [14:28] <decoder> i know what the problem is, but im not exactly sure how it's properly solved
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  1173. # [14:28] <mcsmurf> blassey: some buttons are missing in my screenshot
  1174. # [14:28] <decoder> jwatt: the problem is, that a while ago, asan people changed the osx version to use a dylib for the runtime
  1175. # [14:28] <jwatt> decoder: well that's a start :)
  1176. # [14:28] <decoder> instead of statically linking the runtime to the binary
  1177. # [14:28] <decoder> i assume you get this when trying to start your build?
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  1179. # [14:29] <jwatt> decoder: it's during the configure stage, but presumably while it's trying to start a test binary
  1180. # [14:30] <blassey> mcsmurf: what buttons are you expecting?
  1181. # [14:30] <decoder> does that path actually exist? and whats yor clang path?
  1182. # [14:30] <decoder> *your
  1183. # [14:31] <mcsmurf> blassey: like http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/72157/intents.png
  1184. # [14:31] <jwatt> decoder: /Users/jw/bin/../lib/clang/3.3/ only contains 'library', not 'lib' or anything else
  1185. # [14:32] <mcsmurf> blassey: (from Comment 39 in that bug)
  1186. # [14:32] <decoder> jwatt: is the dylib in there somewhere?
  1187. # [14:32] <blassey> hmm
  1188. # [14:32] <blassey> mfinkle: ^
  1189. # [14:32] <mcsmurf> blassey: otherwise not sure how this feature should work then as currently it does not do anything
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  1192. # [14:32] <jwatt> decoder: no
  1193. # [14:33] <blassey> so we have to hit OK everytime, that seems bad
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  1197. # [14:34] <decoder> jwatt: umm, did you compile clang yourself?
  1198. # [14:34] <decoder> and what rev?
  1199. # [14:35] <mcsmurf> blassey: oh hm, maybe "Complete action using" is different from "Open in App"
  1200. # [14:35] <mcsmurf> well, I'll wait for the patch author and/or reviewer to comment on this
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  1202. # [14:36] <mfinkle> blassey, wesj has a followup patch to add "just onece" and "always"
  1203. # [14:36] <jwatt> decoder: yes, I compiled the 3.3 source
  1204. # [14:36] <mfinkle> mcsmurf, can you look for any errors in adb logcat ?
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  1206. # [14:37] <decoder> jwatt: what revision is that? and did you include compiler-rt
  1207. # [14:37] <decoder> ?
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  1209. # [14:38] <jwatt> decoder: I probably didn't include compiler-rt, now that you mention it
  1210. # [14:38] <jwatt> decoder: I seem to remember something about that when I last compiled clang, but missed that step this time
  1211. # [14:38] <jwatt> let me look into that
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  1213. # [14:41] <decoder> jwatt: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Building_Firefox_with_Address_Sanitizer#Build_prerequisites
  1214. # [14:42] <decoder> maybe that helps :D
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  1216. # [14:43] <mcsmurf> mfinkle: hm,let me see, I'm not really into Android development.. I have now installed aLogcat, but it's only showing a few "dalvikvm" messages
  1217. # [14:43] <Bas> Does anyone know how I build with VS2013?
  1218. # [14:43] <mcsmurf> debugging is difficult without a proper dev env I guess
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  1222. # [14:45] <Gijs> Bas: if there's no info on the wiki, I think that means you've just nominated yourself to add such info :)
  1223. # [14:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
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  1229. # [14:47] <mfinkle> mcsmurf, you can go into Settings > Developer Tools
  1230. # [14:47] <mfinkle> and enable remote debugging
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  1232. # [14:47] <mfinkle> and then connect vi desktop firefox
  1233. # [14:47] <mfinkle> oh, you also need adb installed, so that might be a problem
  1234. # [14:48] <mfinkle> adb handles forwarding the tcp
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  1238. # [14:50] <mcsmurf> k
  1239. # [14:50] <mcsmurf> on my old mobile I had remote debugging working, but bought a new one a few weeks ago
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  1241. # [14:55] <Bas> ryanvm: You there?
  1242. # [14:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Bas: hey
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  1244. # [14:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> maybe a little to early for Ryan
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  1252. # [14:58] <Bas> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Okay, thanks :)
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  1255. # [15:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Bas: can i help you ?
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  1257. # [15:01] <decoder> edmorley: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=29438619&tree=Try&full=1
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  1261. # [15:04] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty, Bas: in fact, I think Ryan is PTO until 28th
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  1263. # [15:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: oh ok :)
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  1267. # [15:07] <edmorley> decoder: :-)
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  1290. # [15:25] * Yoric has managed to kill almost all Windows tests without error messages with a typo in FormatError.
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  1293. # [15:27] <mcsmurf> mfinkle: ah I see the problem with aLogcat, need to root Android for those log reading apps to work on 4.1 and higher
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  1304. # [15:35] <Gijs> Hmm. Using mozmake fails here with "No rule to make target 'test-dir/', needed by 'libs' (recipe for target 'testingmochitest/chrome/libs' failed)
  1305. # [15:35] <Gijs> anyone seen that before?
  1306. # [15:35] <Yoric> ttaubert: At some point, could you take a look at bug 922427? The behavior is quite non-deterministic, so this _might_ possibly be related to your e10s refactoring.
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  1311. # [15:37] <Yoric> ttaubert: Also, please consider yourself nagged for a review on bug 899276.
  1312. # [15:37] <Bas> edmorley: Who else might know about mozilla-build?
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  1320. # [15:39] <Gijs> ted
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  1322. # [15:40] <Gijs> Bas: ^^
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  1338. # [15:48] <Optimizer> does the sheriffs, while pushing stuff marked to be pushed, make sure the commit says the correct thing if the commit does not say anything ?
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  1357. # [16:00] <seth> proposal: set a bounty on top orange bugs in terms of "Try Fun Tokens"
  1358. # [16:00] <seth> if you fix the top orange, you get X number of Try Fun Tokens
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  1360. # [16:00] <seth> you can spend Try Fun Tokens to push your try job ahead of everyone else's jobs
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  1364. # [16:02] <Optimizer> lol
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  1388. # [16:12] <nrc> seth: I think cash money might work better
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  1394. # [16:15] <@khuey> nrc: I wouldn't mind some cash money
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  1399. # [16:17] <seth> nrc: you can redeem your Try Fun Tokens for all sorts of fun prizes
  1400. # [16:18] <seth> nrc: including both cash money and bling bling
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  1404. # [16:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/651ea35bfb0b - Felix S. Klock II - Bug 928029: SelfHosting: check ThrowError argument count (r=till).
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  1406. # [16:20] <ted> Bas: yeah, you can ask me mozilla-build questions
  1407. # [16:20] <ted> but ryanvm is doing the day-to-day maintenence now
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  1415. # [16:23] <jmaher> jimm: ping
  1416. # [16:24] <nrc> seth: try-bling? I want a diamond encrusted necklace with intermittently orange diamonds
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  1423. # [16:24] <seth> nrc: hah! i love it
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  1431. # [16:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c85d3c19012 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 925317. Check shmems are tracked whenever we send them across IPC. r=BenWa,bent
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  1435. # [16:31] <jdm> jcranmer: did https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/thunderbird/addon/loghelper/ work for firefox?
  1436. # [16:31] <dholbert> heh @ jdm sending fr-localized URLs
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  1448. # [16:35] <jcranmer> jdm: I know of no reason it shouldn't
  1449. # [16:35] <jcranmer> unless the overlay is out of date
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  1451. # [16:36] <Gijs> glandium: should bug 926332's patch just have used "test-dir" rather than "test-dir/" in the makefile.in ?
  1452. # [16:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9445d7191df4 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 927568 - fix misplaced null check in marionette-server.js, r=mdas
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  1454. # [16:38] <jimm> jmaher: pong
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  1456. # [16:38] <jmaher> jimm: is there a way to check the screen saver settings or power management settings on a metro mode box via scripting?
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  1460. # [16:40] <jimm> jmaher: not sure. that's probably a question for build folks. armenz might be able to help. We also document how we set these slaves up somewhere on the wiki, which should include details of how we configure the machine.
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  1463. # [16:40] <jimm> I seriously doubt these machines are set up such that they could sleep. My guess is this is a foreground browser problem. we should confirm this though.
  1464. # [16:41] <jmaher> jimm: well, I have found the documentation for the setup doesn't necessarily equal the reality (i.e. I found scheduled tasks for defrag, windows update on by default, etc.)
  1465. # [16:41] <jimm> hmm, you should file a bug on that in releng.
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  1467. # [16:41] <jimm> cc' Q too, he can remote config these slaves.
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  1470. # [16:43] <jmaher> yeah, I already filed a bug on that stuff; I think some stuff is done with default settings
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  1472. # [16:43] <Gijs> heh
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  1479. # [16:47] <decoder> philor: patch for the tbpl asan thing is up :) ted will review it when he gets to it :)
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  1481. # [16:47] <philor> sweet
  1482. # [16:47] <ted> getting there, bugmail backlog
  1483. # [16:47] <decoder> philor: im investigating now why mochitests dont symbolize asan traces.. because that used to be working, and it's broken now
  1484. # [16:48] <decoder> so I have to figure out what broke
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  1492. # [16:52] <padenot> is tbpl down for everyone or just me?
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  1494. # [16:53] <gcp> worksforme
  1495. # [16:53] <jwatt> padenot: try in a different browser
  1496. # [16:53] <padenot> I'll use Chrome
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  1498. # [16:54] <Waldo> hmm
  1499. # [16:54] <jwatt> padenot: firefox decided to stop loading it for me - worked on a restart
  1500. # [16:54] <padenot> ha, it works waaaay better
  1501. # [16:54] <@ehsan> jwatt: I saw that the other day too
  1502. # [16:54] <Waldo> where did HEVC-MSP come from, and why have I not heard of it before today, in this research study?
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  1506. # [16:54] <@ehsan> Waldo: H.265
  1507. # [16:54] <Waldo> oh, blech
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  1509. # [16:55] <Waldo> (also blech from being four feet downwind of two people smoking, but I digress)
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  1517. # [16:57] <Waldo> "I've found only two cats and not a single human face in the Tecnick image set, no fancy à la Instagram filters, this can't be seriously representative of web images, a larger image corpus would be welcome." haha
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  1524. # [17:00] <dholbert> dzbarsky, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/style/nsStyleAnimation.h#123
  1525. # [17:01] <dholbert> dzbarsky, called from here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/smil/nsSMILCSSValueType.cpp#361
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  1528. # [17:02] <dzbarsky> thanks dholbert
  1529. # [17:02] <dholbert> dzbarsky, the "isNegative" special-casing before the invocation is just a hack to allow non-negative properties to support being animated *by* negative amounts. (e.g <animate attributeName="opacity" from="1" by="-0.5">)
  1530. # [17:02] <@gavin> Yoric: pong
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  1534. # [17:03] <dholbert> dzbarsky, (if we passed in the "-0.5" directly to the parser, it'd be rejected because it's not a valid value for "opacity". Anyway, this probably isn't a case you need to worry about; just explaining that quirk of the contextual code)
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  1536. # [17:03] <dzbarsky> right, makes sense
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  1568. # [17:18] <Waldo> ehsan: strawman: how bad would it really be to have to use a wrapper function to convert char16_t strings to winapi strings? how many places would we have to touch? could failure to do so be made a compile error with MSVC, such that people forgetting to use it would find out immediately?
  1569. # [17:18] <jcranmer> Waldo: I considered that myself
  1570. # [17:19] <Waldo> or you too, of course, j cranmer :-)
  1571. # [17:19] <@ehsan> Waldo: what would that conversion function do?
  1572. # [17:19] <jcranmer> the hard part is making it fail on MSVC
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  1574. # [17:19] <Waldo> with rewriting tools such as we have now (...on Windows?) it may not be as hard as it used to be to generate such a patch to change every place
  1575. # [17:20] <@ehsan> we have no such rewriting tools ;)
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  1578. # [17:20] <jcranmer> ehsan: I'd imagine reinterpret_cast<const wchar_t*>(str)
  1579. # [17:20] <Ms2ger> ehsan, reinterpret_cast for mingw, I guess
  1580. # [17:20] <Waldo> ehsan: yeah, about that, modulo whatever's needed to kill strict aliasing warnings or whatever
  1581. # [17:20] <@ehsan> the problem is that MSVC doesn't have built-in support for char16_t, so I don't see how we can get away with anything that doesn't basically typedef against wchar_t
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  1583. # [17:21] <@ehsan> and that is what we already have
  1584. # [17:21] <jcranmer> what it comes down to is that MingW gcc jumped ahead of msvc for support
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  1586. # [17:21] <@ehsan> yes
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  1588. # [17:21] <Ms2ger> ehsan, hmm, typedef to uint16_t instead?
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  1590. # [17:22] <@ehsan> is there a command line flag to convince gcc to give up char16_t?
  1591. # [17:22] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: that breaks decltype(MOZ_UTF16("")) == char16_t
  1592. # [17:22] <jcranmer> char16_t*
  1593. # [17:22] <Ms2ger> Ah
  1594. # [17:22] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: wchar_t is already unsigned short iirc
  1595. # [17:22] <jcranmer> ehsan: NOPE!
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  1597. # [17:22] <jcranmer> wchar_t is a distinct type, just like char16_t is supposed to be
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  1600. # [17:23] <@ehsan> jcranmer: with /Zc:wchar_t, that's true
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  1603. # [17:24] <@ehsan> so here's a question: can't we just #define char16_t wchar_t with mingw?
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  1605. # [17:25] <jcranmer> apparently that breaks libstdc++ headers
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  1607. # [17:25] <@ehsan> oh right
  1608. # [17:25] <@ehsan> sigh
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  1612. # [17:26] <Waldo> we could also just say it's mingw's problem (and reviewers' problem) to require and use the castifying method
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  1614. # [17:26] <Waldo> which is unpleasant to be sure
  1615. # [17:26] <Waldo> but realistically mingw is also not tier1
  1616. # [17:26] <Waldo> I am not sure how I feel about this
  1617. # [17:26] <jcranmer> our options boil down to make life painful for mingw or synthesize a new typedef for char16_t
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  1619. # [17:26] <Waldo> it does seems like something reviewers can adapt to, to me
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  1621. # [17:27] <jcranmer> the castifying approach may be needed eventually for MSVC
  1622. # [17:27] <@ehsan> jcranmer: how would we synthesize a new type?
  1623. # [17:27] <Waldo> nobody has any idea what MS is going to do about char16_t as a distinct type, do they? probably another /Zfoo thingy? maybe?
  1624. # [17:27] <jcranmer> since I don't exactly see the WinAPI moving from wchar_t to char16_t
  1625. # [17:27] <@ehsan> Waldo: that is what I would expect them to have to do
  1626. # [17:27] <Waldo> jcranmer: they could go macro-crazy again...maybe?
  1627. # [17:27] <jcranmer> ehsan: another typedef à la PRUnichar
  1628. # [17:27] <@ehsan> Waldo: they were in the same exact mess when they added wchar_t support
  1629. # [17:28] <Waldo> I mean, they already have them for older stuff
  1630. # [17:28] <jcranmer> do we have any contacts in the MSVC dev support?
  1631. # [17:28] <@ehsan> jcranmer: WinAPI is frozen
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  1633. # [17:28] <Waldo> literally and completely? only WinRT is getting any movement at all, at all, these days?
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  1635. # [17:28] <@ehsan> jcranmer: well, don't we need a type that is not distinct from wchar_t for things to just work?
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  1638. # [17:29] <jcranmer> ehsan: if the WinAPI names are unmangled, then source-level changes guarded by magic macros may be acceptable
  1639. # [17:29] <@ehsan> Waldo: microsoft's whole business model is built around backwards compat, they cannot ship something which breaks all existing code
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  1642. # [17:30] <@ehsan> jcranmer: no, you're supposed to be able to pass L"foo" to windows APIs
  1643. # [17:30] <Waldo> ehsan: macroing everything and making it opt-in and adding 50% more symbols doesn't break anything
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  1645. # [17:30] <@ehsan> they cannot break that
  1646. # [17:30] <jcranmer> I have a feeling that the low priority of char16_t on the MSVC roadmaps is driven in part by indecision with respect to what we're talking about
  1647. # [17:30] <@ehsan> (the windows symbols do not include type information)
  1648. # [17:30] <Waldo> note that macroing in the first place was a breaking change
  1649. # [17:30] <jcranmer> ehsan: make it an opt-in macro
  1650. # [17:30] <Waldo> unless every method was a macro even before the A/W split was introduced, but I can't believe that
  1651. # [17:31] <jcranmer> so new code could use U"" and old code could keep using L""
  1652. # [17:31] <Waldo> yeah, I'd bet on that being the case as well
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  1654. # [17:31] <@ehsan> iirc the A/W split existed from the early win32
  1655. # [17:31] <Waldo> #define L U
  1656. # [17:31] <Waldo> /nick Waldo|scumbag
  1657. # [17:31] <@ehsan> hehe
  1658. # [17:31] <Waldo> and/or vice versa
  1659. # [17:31] <@ehsan> does gcc have anything similar to __uint16?
  1660. # [17:31] <jcranmer> I don't think that actually works in the preprocessor
  1661. # [17:31] <@ehsan> sorry, __int16
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  1664. # [17:32] <Waldo> jcranmer: I believe __fooN are just built-in typedefs to the fundamental types of the right sizes
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  1666. # [17:32] <jcranmer> ehsan: the guarantee we need for char16_t is that MOZ_UTF16("Foo") can get passed into a template <size_t N> void blah(const char16_t(&)[N]) method
  1667. # [17:32] <froydnj> ehsan: newer versions have __INT16_TYPE__, is that what you're looking for?
  1668. # [17:33] <jcranmer> breaking that guarantee ruins a lot of the benefit of char16_t in the first place
  1669. # [17:33] <@ehsan> jcranmer: right
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  1673. # [17:34] <jcranmer> it sounds to me like we're mostly in a scenario where the question is how much we're going to screw over mingw
  1674. # [17:34] <@ehsan> jcranmer: well the other guarantee that we need is to make sure that char16_t* can be passed to windows APIs ;)
  1675. # [17:34] <@ehsan> yes
  1676. # [17:34] <jacek> why not simply using different name than char16_t. is the name so important
  1677. # [17:35] <@ehsan> jacek: the name is mostly why we're doing this
  1678. # [17:35] <jacek> using a different name and typedef it to char16_t/wchar_t depending on platform would be trivial and would solve the ptoblem
  1679. # [17:35] <jcranmer> a) it's not clear to me that we aren't going to have to do this eventually anyways
  1680. # [17:35] <@ehsan> we want people who know what char16_t is to be able to understand our code
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  1683. # [17:36] <jcranmer> b) STLport is a broken enough standard library that we're going to need to worry about char16_t-wchar_t-or-not anyways in MFBT
  1684. # [17:36] <@ehsan> hmm
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  1686. # [17:37] <@ehsan> froydnj: do you know what __INT16_TYPE__ is?
  1687. # [17:37] <@ehsan> oh waity
  1688. # [17:37] <froydnj> ehsan: the underlying type for int16_t
  1689. # [17:37] <@ehsan> actually there may be a third option here
  1690. # [17:37] <jcranmer> c) if we're going to not use the standard name anyways, why bother moving from PRUNichar
  1691. # [17:37] <jacek> edmorley: I don'[t see the point. with all those tricks, windows developer may think he knows it, but that's not the true because char16_t in mozilla is not the same as char16_t in plain msvc application
  1692. # [17:37] <@ehsan> we can also try to mess with the Windows headers
  1693. # [17:38] <jcranmer> d) if we import any libraries that use char16_t, we're still screwed
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  1695. # [17:38] <@ehsan> jacek: do you use windows sdk headers?
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  1697. # [17:38] <jacek> ehsan: no, headers provided by mingw-w64. microsoft headers don't work with gcc
  1698. # [17:38] <froydnj> ehsan: or __CHAR16_TYPE__, too, if that's useful
  1699. # [17:39] <@ehsan> jacek: can you please point me to those headers?
  1700. # [17:39] <@ehsan> froydnj: so they're not distinct types, right?
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  1702. # [17:40] <froydnj> ehsan: right
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  1704. # [17:40] <@ehsan> jacek: is this what I want? http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw-w64/
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  1706. # [17:40] <jacek> sure, http://svn.code.sf.net/p/mingw-w64/code/trunk/mingw-w64-headers/
  1707. # [17:41] <jacek> yes
  1708. # [17:41] <jacek> ehsan: also see https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Cross_Compile_Mozilla_for_Mingw32
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  1713. # [17:42] <fhd> Do I really have to ./mach build if I just change a .jsm file? Can't find anything better :(
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  1715. # [17:42] <@ehsan> ok, let me see...
  1716. # [17:43] <Gijs> fhd: you don't.
  1717. # [17:43] <edmorley> jacek: presume you meant ehsan?
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  1719. # [17:43] <Gijs> fhd: what jsm file are you changing?
  1720. # [17:43] <fhd> Gijs: toolkit/components/osfile/ <- stuff in there
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  1722. # [17:43] <mbrubeck> fhd: On Linux and Mac, if the file is not preprocessed, then you shouldn't need to rebuild.
  1723. # [17:43] <fhd> Gijs: I'm importing osfile.jsm in the browser console for testing
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  1725. # [17:43] <mbrubeck> fhd: On Windows, or for preprocessed files, you should be able to do "mach build path/to/dir" where "dir" is the directory containing the file.
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  1727. # [17:44] <Gijs> fhd: what mbrubeck said. So ./mach build toolkit/components/osfile/ should work.
  1728. # [17:44] <Gijs> (and be much faster than a full ./mach build)
  1729. # [17:44] <fhd> Gijs: mbrubeck: Awesome, thanks :)
  1730. # [17:44] <Gijs> Have we stopped supporting running mochitests through anything but mach yet?
  1731. # [17:44] <froydnj> no, since tbpl still uses make (afaik)
  1732. # [17:45] <jacek> edmorley: yes, sorry
  1733. # [17:45] <@ehsan> jacek: jcranmer: Waldo: ok, here is a hack that may just work... we can do typedef char16_t WCHAR, and then #define __WCHAR_DEFINED to prevent the mingw headers from defining WCHAR
  1734. # [17:45] <Gijs> More specifically, if I want to add commandline options to mochitest-browser, can I just add them to the mach_commands file or do I need to add them elsewhere?
  1735. # [17:45] <edmorley> jacek: np :-)
  1736. # [17:45] <@ehsan> WDYT?
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  1739. # [17:46] * @ehsan checks whether his mingw build environment still works...
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  1741. # [17:47] <gps> dougt: pushing a single hg head to a repo (instead of all remote-missing changesets is easy): hg push -r <rev> <repo>
  1742. # [17:47] <jacek> ehsan: that's getting more and more hacky... I don't like it, but it seems we don't have better idea, so it's worth a try
  1743. # [17:47] <@ehsan> jacek: if you tell me how to detect mingw from the preprocessor, I can give it a shot
  1744. # [17:47] <jacek> I will try it
  1745. # [17:47] <gps> this is essentially what `hg pushtree` from my mozext extension does
  1746. # [17:47] <Waldo> hackety hack hack hack
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  1748. # [17:47] <@ehsan> jacek: or even better if you can try it
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  1750. # [17:47] <jcranmer> char16_t and wchar_t on Windows is already a hack
  1751. # [17:47] <Waldo> I am basically fine with things that work, whatever they are, here :-)
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  1754. # [17:48] <@ehsan> jacek: (my mingw installation is not working any more)
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  1757. # [17:49] <@ehsan> I think this is our best option if we can get it to work
  1758. # [17:49] <@ehsan> and given the fact that the headers are written to support this, I don't feel super bad about the hack
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  1760. # [17:49] <jacek> sure, I will try and let you know how it works
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  1762. # [17:49] <Waldo> mm, stockholm syndrome
  1763. # [17:49] <@ehsan> thank you!
  1764. # [17:50] <@ehsan> Waldo: hehe, is that me being the hostage? ;)
  1765. # [17:50] <Waldo> ehsan: us all
  1766. # [17:50] <jcranmer> is it worth asking MSVC devs what their plans are re char16_t?
  1767. # [17:50] <Waldo> also, https://twitter.com/sayrer/status/19304989209
  1768. # [17:50] <@ehsan> yeah
  1769. # [17:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cbaa108583ee - Benjamin Peterson - Bug 928738 - Safely pun double and float. r=jandem
  1770. # [17:51] <jcranmer> [do we have any contacts?]
  1771. # [17:51] <Waldo> jcranmer: I bet we know the answer, but never hurts to ask and verify
  1772. # [17:51] <@ehsan> there is no magic answer
  1773. # [17:51] <@ehsan> like I said, they've already done this for wchar_t
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  1775. # [17:52] <@ehsan> iirc it took them a few releases to be able to switch to /Zc:wchar_T
  1776. # [17:52] <@ehsan> (by default, that is)_
  1777. # [17:52] <froydnj> benjamin: ohmygosh, that's awful
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  1779. # [17:52] * KaiRo thinks we should fix this: http://xkcd.com/1280/
  1780. # [17:52] <Waldo> ooh, this sounds interesting
  1781. # [17:53] <froydnj> benjamin: and also bogus on big-endian machines, I think (though no worse than before)
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  1785. # [17:55] <matthewgertner> is it normal that script loaded from my own protocol handler wouldn't be able to use history.pushState()?
  1786. # [17:55] <matthewgertner> I get a security error
  1787. # [17:56] <matthewgertner> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsHistory.cpp#271
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  1789. # [17:56] <matthewgertner> nsContentUtils::CanCallerAccess checks whether the principal of the current script context subsumes the principal of the argument, which is the outer window
  1790. # [17:56] <Waldo> froydnj: don't leave us all hanging like that!
  1791. # [17:56] <matthewgertner> the document in the browser is loaded using the same protocol handler
  1792. # [17:57] <froydnj> Waldo: ?
  1793. # [17:57] <ahal> dzbarsky: ping
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  1795. # [17:57] <dzbarsky> ahal: hi
  1796. # [17:57] <Waldo> froydnj: "that's awful" reference
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  1798. # [17:57] <froydnj> Waldo: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cbaa108583ee
  1799. # [17:57] <ahal> dzbarsky: hey, I'm wondering about this comment: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/ipc/NeckoParent.cpp#114
  1800. # [17:57] <ahal> dzbarsky: is that true in the general case? and if so, is this out of date: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/WebAPI/Browser ?
  1801. # [17:58] <seth> KaiRo: i do too. was talking to someone about it at the summit
  1802. # [17:58] <Waldo> froydnj: I...
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  1804. # [17:58] <dzbarsky> ahal: yeah, I believe that's been the case all along
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  1807. # [17:59] <seth> KaiRo: the person i was talking to (forgot his name, alas) was an electrolysis developer working on a 'process manager' for electrolysis tabs. i was trying to convince him to add info to that process manager about whether the tab was emitting sound
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  1809. # [17:59] <dzbarsky> ahal: I don't think justin wrote that devmo page, and he's the one who actually wrote this stuff
  1810. # [17:59] <froydnj> Waldo: ...yes
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  1813. # [17:59] <KaiRo> seth: I think I once heard talk about it - of course it's less trivial with the plugins like Flash, but at least for HTML5 we should have all the info and capability in our hands already
  1814. # [17:59] <ahal> dzbarsky: so the reason I'm asking is I'm trying to get reftests running oop from an <iframe mozbrowser remote>, it used to work sometime about a year ago, but now I'm hitting http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/ipc/NeckoParent.cpp#127
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  1817. # [18:00] <ahal> (I know nothing about necko, and I'm only pinging you cause you touched it last :))
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  1819. # [18:00] <ahal> so feel free to 301 me
  1820. # [18:00] <seth> KaiRo: yeah, hopefully it can be made to work for flash too. i don't know enough about the interface between flash and the browser to know how feasible that is
  1821. # [18:00] <+benjamin> froydnj: well, it's the "standard" way of doing that short of nonsense
  1822. # [18:01] <froydnj> benjamin: what that patch does (and what the code is doing) is already nonsense!
  1823. # [18:02] <+benjamin> mm, it's okay if it store the float correctly
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  1826. # [18:02] <Waldo> I'm a little surprised there isn't another union being read/written such that that extra bit of unioning isn't superfluous
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  1828. # [18:03] <KaiRo> seth: me neither, but we definitely should try to make this work in some way - and if nothing else, at least for HTML5
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  1830. # [18:04] <froydnj> I dunno, taking bits out of the mantissa of a double and making them into a float (on a little endian machine) seems like a sure way to get nonsense
  1831. # [18:04] <froydnj> it's *almost* sane on a big-endian machine
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  1833. # [18:05] <Waldo> froydnj: depends what bits were written there originally
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  1836. # [18:05] <jcranmer> benjamin: memcpy is another "standard" way
  1837. # [18:05] <Waldo> and I suspect here the JIT or something is writing floatful bits, so
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  1842. # [18:05] <froydnj> I suppose if the JIT is somehow in on the charade things just work
  1843. # [18:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d2b4e498b5aa - Brian Hackett - Bug 928971 - Consistently test for whether functions will be run once closures, r=luke.
  1844. # [18:06] <+benjamin> well, it's exactly the bytes of a float32 in a register
  1845. # [18:06] <Waldo> these shenanigans are JITs' bread and butter
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  1848. # [18:07] <Waldo> benjamin: all this said, why have a typedef of a union anyway, versus just naming the union and using C++'s nicely putting that in the enclosing namespace?
  1849. # [18:07] <+benjamin> anyway, if the tests pass how wrong can it be? :)
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  1855. # [18:08] <froydnj> ehsan: thanks for the reviews!
  1856. # [18:09] <@ehsan> np
  1857. # [18:09] <+benjamin> Waldo: no reason besides the fact that I reflexively typedef every struct and union
  1858. # [18:09] <Gijs> ted: ping
  1859. # [18:09] <Waldo> boo-urns
  1860. # [18:09] <+benjamin> rs=me if you care that much :)
  1861. # [18:09] <NeilAway> froydnj: that's still unsafe, memcpy is the only safe way
  1862. # [18:09] <Waldo> should do a s&r for all /typedef (struct|class|union)/ sometime, perhaps, to fix these
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  1866. # [18:11] <dzbarsky1> ahal: sounds like you need to put your mozbrowser inside a mozapp ;)
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  1869. # [18:12] <NeilAway> froydnj: at least, by the spec; I don't think compilers have got that strict yet
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  1871. # [18:12] <ahal> dzbarsky1: thanks, I'll give it a try
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  1874. # [18:13] <froydnj> NeilAway: I imagine a fair amount of code would break if compilers were that strict
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  1881. # [18:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a0801040b54 - Seth Fowler - Bug 764299 (Part 4) - Cache rasterized surfaces in VectorImage. r=dholbert
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  1884. # [18:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4d8068fd3271 - Seth Fowler - Bug 764299 (Part 2) - Add a temporary surface cache to imagelib. r=dholbert
  1885. # [18:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc31e05eddb8 - Seth Fowler - Bug 764299 (Part 1) - Add hashing to SVGImageContext. r=dholbert
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  1914. # [18:27] <seth> jwatt: say, do you have a sec to talk with me and jonathan kew about svg glyphs?
  1915. # [18:27] <seth> jwatt: we're right behind you
  1916. # [18:27] <ted> Gijs: pong
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  1955. # [18:44] <sierk> Hi folks! Any mozilla developer here who can say s.th. to https://www.mozilla.org/en/plugincheck/ and identifying a particular plugin (Google Earth plugin))
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  1966. # [18:47] <Callek|Buildduty> sierk: I don't know how deep his involvement is, but Tomcat has some good knowledge of that page/plugins in particular
  1967. # [18:48] <sierk> OK. Thanks. He seems to be online, hm?
  1968. # [18:49] <fabrice> geekboy: ping
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  1971. # [18:49] <geekboy> fabrice: pong, but I'm running away shortly
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  1973. # [18:49] <NeilAway> froydnj: yeah, well people probably thought that about signed overflow ;-)
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  1976. # [18:50] <fabrice> geekboy: did you see my last comment in bug 927493 ?
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  1983. # [18:50] <geekboy> the one about blocking scripts?
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  1985. # [18:50] <geekboy> sounds like it's working as intended and the test is busted
  1986. # [18:51] <adalucinet> !seen bbondy
  1987. # [18:51] <firebot> bbondy was last seen 2 days, 22 hours, 47 minutes and 11 seconds ago, saying 'in marco's room if you want' in #windev.
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  1989. # [18:51] <geekboy> fabrice: ^^
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  1992. # [18:51] <jcranmer> NeilAway: strict aliasing is relatively contentious
  1993. # [18:51] <fabrice> geekboy: yep, I think so too
  1994. # [18:51] <geekboy> fabrice: sounds like a job for a follow-up bug
  1995. # [18:51] <fabrice> geekboy: but what is this failing only now?
  1996. # [18:51] <fabrice> sure, cool
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  1998. # [18:51] <jcranmer> NeilAway: it's also extremely up for debate if the union trick is valid or not
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  2002. # [18:53] <jcranmer> NeilAway: C99 and C11 make it explicitly legal; C++11 has unclear wording (unrestricted unions don't help), but I think the committee would be hard-pressed to say it's supposed to not work given that C makes it work
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  2034. # [19:02] <NeilAway> ehsan: pong, but you'll need to be quick
  2035. # [19:03] <@ehsan> NeilAway: any particular reason why you didn't ask for dbaron's review?
  2036. # [19:03] <NeilAway> jcranmer: ah, they do? fair enough
  2037. # [19:03] <NeilAway> ehsan: I thought you'd been following along, so to speak
  2038. # [19:03] <jcranmer> actually C99 is really fun
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  2040. # [19:04] <@ehsan> NeilAway: fair enough, I'll review this but I want dbaron to also take a look
  2041. # [19:04] <jcranmer> they make it explicitly legal, but they didn't change the wording in the non-normative appendix for undefined behavior
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  2043. # [19:04] <@ehsan> I don't know all of the ins and outs of our string code
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  2046. # [19:04] <jcranmer> dbaron would want to review patches I think
  2047. # [19:04] <jcranmer> to string code
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  2060. # [19:08] <decoder> philor: found the reason why asan traces arent symbolized. the mochitest refactoring broke it. it didnt port the code properly
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  2077. # [19:13] <philor> seth: though that b2g build I just retriggered on your push might have been actual bustage
  2078. # [19:13] <philor> or needs-clobber
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  2080. # [19:14] <philor> decoder: cool, good thing we aren't busting it so frequently that we had to notice right away :)
  2081. # [19:14] <decoder> philor: i wish it would have busted right away because then the refactoring wouldnt have landed in the first place ;)
  2082. # [19:14] <decoder> but it's good that we found it now
  2083. # [19:15] <decoder> easy to patch too
  2084. # [19:15] <decoder> it's just a piece of code that was forgotten to port
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  2115. # [19:34] <nicklebedev> Hi guys, does someone have problems with metro build currently?
  2116. # [19:34] <nicklebedev> i'm getting error "nsWinMetroUtils.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol __imp__CryptProtectData@28 referenced in function "public: virtual enum tag_nsresult __stdcall mozilla::widget::nsWinMetroUtils::StoreSyncInfo"
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  2119. # [19:34] <nicklebedev> i've asked before today, but asking again in case guys who were sleeping could help now
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  2121. # [19:35] <mbrubeck> nicklebedev: No, that's weird... and nsWinMetroUtils hasn't changed recently... What version of MSVC are you using?
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  2125. # [19:36] <nicklebedev> 2012
  2126. # [19:36] <nicklebedev> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893010
  2127. # [19:36] <Mook_as> that would be part of the windows sdk anyway, right? (crypt32.lib)
  2128. # [19:37] <nicklebedev> i've found issue with the same error, and emailed that guy, but no response yet
  2129. # [19:37] <nicklebedev> Mook_as: yes, i believe
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  2136. # [19:39] <kbrosnan> ted: would it make sense to pull out the useful bits of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=837835#c97 into a new bug?
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  2138. # [19:40] <nicklebedev> mbrubeck: do you use 2012 or 2013 vs version?
  2139. # [19:41] <ted> kbrosnan: almost certainly
  2140. # [19:41] <ted> kbrosnan: feel free :)
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  2143. # [19:41] * ted is just plowing through bugmail and trying to add useful info
  2144. # [19:41] <philor> who, between Saturday and Sunday, made m-c nightlies on WinXP hideously flashy while repainting?
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  2146. # [19:41] <philor> and why?
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  2148. # [19:42] <mbrubeck> nicklebedev: I'm using 2012
  2149. # [19:42] <mbrubeck> nicklebedev: There were some problems with VS2012 last week, though I *think* they are fixed now
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  2154. # [19:44] <nicklebedev> mbrubeck: do you build source tree via starting bat file start-msvc11.bat from the mozilla build folder?
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  2156. # [19:44] <mbrubeck> nicklebedev: yes
  2157. # [19:46] <nicklebedev> mbrubeck: so to try to build with the 2013 vs i need to modify that bat file (change some vars) and also modify guess-msvc.bat?
  2158. # [19:46] <nicklebedev> mbrubeck: am i correct?
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  2162. # [19:46] <ted> there should be a start-msvc12.bat in the mozilla-build repo
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  2164. # [19:46] <mbrubeck> nicklebedev: There are a number of other known bugs with VS2013: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=VC12
  2165. # [19:46] <ted> it's just not in a released version yet
  2166. # [19:46] <ted> but yeah, vc2013 has other isues
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  2168. # [19:47] <nicklebedev> ted: i've installed mozilla-build a few months ago.. will try to update it
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  2170. # [19:48] <ted> nicklebedev: i'm saying i don't think those files made it into a release yet
  2171. # [19:48] <nicklebedev> ted: ah ok
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  2173. # [19:49] <ted> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-build/raw-file/05abe68837cf/guess-msvc.bat
  2174. # [19:49] <ted> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-build/raw-file/05abe68837cf/start-msvc12.bat
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  2176. # [19:49] <ted> you could download those and put them in your mozilla-build folder
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  2184. # [19:52] <philor> seth: not that you can see it other than the one I starred, but you're busted on b2g
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  2195. # [19:54] <miketaylr> back
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  2197. # [19:55] <philor> djvj: and not that you can see it other than that one orange J on seth's push, but you're busted in jsreftest
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  2232. # [20:15] <philor> so, who wants to do some backouts on inbound?
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  2236. # [20:19] <jld> Air Mozilla didn't want to work in Shumway. )-:
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  2238. # [20:19] <fhd> Is it just me or does dump() not work off the main thread?
  2239. # [20:19] <hub> jld: this is still very sad
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  2243. # [20:21] <jcranmer> I see jsreftests are broken
  2244. # [20:22] <philor> among other things
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  2246. # [20:22] <jcranmer> well, jsreftests are the only obvious thing to me
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  2248. # [20:22] <jcranmer> :-P
  2249. # [20:22] <jcranmer> [this is why I'm not a sheriff]
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  2253. # [20:24] <philor> not for the first time, I think it may have been a mistake making sheriffing be a completely separate alien activity with no relationship to developers
  2254. # [20:24] <jcranmer> oh, b2g is also busted
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  2256. # [20:25] <jcranmer> I see that randomly busted so often I assume red is known random
  2257. # [20:25] <nicklebedev> ted: did you mean such errors 7:03.56 msvcprtd.lib(locale0_implib.obj) : error LNK2038: mismatch detected for '_MSC_VER': value '1800' doesn't match value '1700' in nsBidiUtils.obj when talked that vs12 build bat file isn't in release?
  2258. # [20:25] <jld> Someday I'll do something nontrivial that affects stuff that actually has tests.
  2259. # [20:25] <philor> always hard to tell with it, yeah
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  2261. # [20:26] <ted> nicklebedev: i don't nkow what that is
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  2266. # [20:29] <@ehsan> jesup: please CC me on the >> bug :)
  2267. # [20:31] <djvj> philor: looking
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  2272. # [20:35] <djvj> philor: backing out
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  2274. # [20:35] <philor> djvd: sweet, want to take seth out with you? :)
  2275. # [20:36] <djvj> philor: sure, both in one commit?
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  2279. # [20:37] <philor> djvj: whatever's easier for you, I'd probably do it in one push two commits, but I'll take anything that gets us green
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  2285. # [20:43] <djvj> philor: pushed
  2286. # [20:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0052a204cf83 - Kannan Vijayan - Backout 38d2cbc11868 for jsreftest failures. CLOSED TREE.
  2287. # [20:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4503553be6de - Kannan Vijayan - Backout 5a0801040b54, 5bedd82346b4, 4d8068fd3271, and bc31e05eddb8 for b2g build breakage. CLOSED TREE.
  2288. # [20:44] <djvj> philor: should I comment on bug with backout commit numbers?
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  2290. # [20:46] <TheOne> ttaubert: am I right you're working on session restore?
  2291. # [20:46] <ttaubert> TheOne: yup
  2292. # [20:46] <philor> djvj: I can do that part, thanks for the backout!
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  2294. # [20:47] <TheOne> ttaubert: have a minute to talk about an upcoming issue with add-ons?
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  2296. # [20:47] <ttaubert> TheOne: yup
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  2299. # [20:48] <TheOne> ttaubert: I saw you made some changes to session restore lately, did you expect any breaks because of them?
  2300. # [20:48] <ttaubert> TheOne: we made lots of changes lately, you need to be specific :)
  2301. # [20:49] <TheOne> there is this add-on that displays a master passwort popup on startup but what happens lately is that after you entered the passwort, firefox forgot about the tabs stored in the sessionstore
  2302. # [20:49] <TheOne> https://code.google.com/p/masterpasswordtimeoutplus/issues/detail?id=62
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  2304. # [20:49] <protz> jesup: ping
  2305. # [20:49] <jesup> protz: pong
  2306. # [20:49] <protz> excellent
  2307. # [20:49] <protz> so I just got nightly to crash again
  2308. # [20:49] <protz> I'm talking about bug 928708
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  2310. # [20:50] <protz> I've got firefox SIGSEGV'd and a gdb attached to it
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  2312. # [20:50] <protz> except my gdb skillz are somehow limited, and I can't figure out why bt, where, and the like give me no source code information
  2313. # [20:50] <protz> I've launched a debug build of m-c
  2314. # [20:50] <abr> If anyone's interested in reading through the revised version of HTTP before it goes off for its final pre-publication evaluation, the IETF just issued a "last call for comments" on it earlier today. Note that this isn't the HTTP/2.0 work, just a revision of HTTP/1.1. If anyone wants a pointer to the revised documents, let me know.
  2315. # [20:50] <ttaubert> TheOne: what is your add-on doing with sessionstore that would break it?
  2316. # [20:50] <TheOne> uh, that report is even wrong
  2317. # [20:50] <jesup> protz: Cool. shall we continue in #media?
  2318. # [20:50] <protz> jesup: sure
  2319. # [20:51] <TheOne> the actual result is that *all* tabs are gone and just a single tab is shown with the homepage
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  2322. # [20:51] <TheOne> ttaubert: it's not my add-on, I'm an add-on reviewer, and we want to get this cleared before we hit beta and it affects a lot of users
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  2324. # [20:52] <ttaubert> TheOne: ah, I see. hm I have no idea what's going on. that report isn't very accurate
  2325. # [20:52] <TheOne> ttaubert: anything I can do this help sort things out?
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  2328. # [20:53] <TheOne> could this demo add-on help you? it seems like a rather minimal testcase
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  2333. # [20:56] <TheOne> ttaubert: if you compare both pushlogs in that report, there are only a couple of commits which are in both
  2334. # [20:56] <ttaubert> TheOne: looking at the source code, I assume it accesses sessionstore before that is ready to be accessed and causes a failure
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  2338. # [20:57] <ttaubert> TheOne: not completely sure though. I guess there should be an error message when this happens
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  2340. # [20:57] <TheOne> hm, the author replied with "...even if I remove any references to window.ss object, it still breaks session restore."
  2341. # [20:57] <ttaubert> knowing the error message would be helpful
  2342. # [20:57] <ttaubert> aha?
  2343. # [20:58] <TheOne> there is no error message in the browser console
  2344. # [20:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/6b2f93d57181 - Benjamin Smedberg - Back out revision 757597594469 - bug 925459 blocklist bitguard.dll because the block was ineffective at reducing crashes. a=akeybl
  2345. # [20:58] <TheOne> I even tried remote debugging m firefox instance
  2346. # [20:58] <TheOne> *my
  2347. # [20:59] <ttaubert> TheOne: not exactly sure what the author means by "suspend"
  2348. # [20:59] <ttaubert> or how the add-on works
  2349. # [20:59] <TheOne> the add-on displays a master password popup before any firefox window is shown
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  2352. # [21:00] <TheOne> so you enter it once right at startup instead of on first use
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  2363. # [21:02] <ttaubert> TheOne: I have no clue *how* it does it though
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  2375. # [21:08] <@bsmedberg> Is there an hg equivalent of `git commit --amend` that doesn't involve mq?
  2376. # [21:08] <wchen> bsmedberg: there is hg commit --amend if you have the rebase extension enabled
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  2380. # [21:11] <wchen> bsmedberg: or it might be the histedit extension
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  2389. # [21:15] <TheOne> ttaubert: I'm correct, only the following five bugs landed in the matching timeframes according to the pushlogs: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3306935
  2390. # [21:15] <TheOne> none of them seems to be related to session handlingß
  2391. # [21:16] <TheOne> ?
  2392. # [21:16] <TheOne> *If I'm correct
  2393. # [21:17] <ttaubert> TheOne: in the m-c pushlog there's a couple of sessionstore bugs, the second pushlog seems weird, that would need to be confirmed I think
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  2395. # [21:18] <TheOne> ttaubert: I got both with mozregression
  2396. # [21:18] <TheOne> let me try again
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  2408. # [21:24] <TheOne> bah of course now I get different results
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  2411. # [21:24] <TheOne> of course it's kind of bad to test session restore when mozregression actually kills the process
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  2423. # [21:30] <TheOne> ttaubert: I think it's https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=925771
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  2463. # [21:54] <ttaubert> TheOne: hmm that would be really interesting
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  2469. # [21:57] <bhearsum> whoa, latest linux nightly has tons of graphics artifacts
  2470. # [21:57] <tbsaunde> djvj: I think 929116 is in the wrong component ;)
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  2474. # [21:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/654ffd9d6b09 - Christian Holler - Bug 925873 - Make mochitest emit TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL on non-zero exit code. r=ted.
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  2476. # [21:58] <djvj> tbsaunde: suggested component?
  2477. # [21:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/676ed933b962 - David Keeler - bug 914034 - cache stapled OCSP responses on the cert verification thread r=briansmith a=akeybl
  2478. # [21:59] <djvj> tbsaunde: oh, right...
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  2480. # [21:59] <djvj> tbsaunde: fixed. thanks for the heads up.
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  2483. # [21:59] <tbsaunde> djvj: np, also jsd not jsd2 or whatever its called? O.O
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  2489. # [22:02] <djvj> tbsaunde: dunno.. first time filing a debugger bug. jim will probably tell me if it's named wrong.
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  2495. # [22:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb42a764f90b - Joshua Cranmer - Bug 900526, part 2: Move backend.mk inclusion to config.mk instead of rules.mk, r=gps
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  2520. # [22:10] <mattqmello> can someone help me?
  2521. # [22:11] <mattqmello> with Servers and Hosted Apps for FFOS
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  2523. # [22:11] <mattqmello> ?
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  2525. # [22:12] <mattqmello> BR: Alguem pode me ajudar com Servidores e Apps hospedados em FFOS
  2526. # [22:12] <mattqmello> ?
  2527. # [22:12] <reuben> mattqmello: ask your question and if someone knows the answer they'll reply
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  2529. # [22:12] <reuben> though #developers is probably not the right place to ask about FxOS apps
  2530. # [22:12] <mattqmello> :)
  2531. # [22:13] <mattqmello> Sure?
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  2533. # [22:14] <mattqmello> I do not know how to use a server with a Java App FFOS
  2534. # [22:14] <mattqmello> sorry, JAVA server (tomcat)
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  2538. # [22:15] <mattqmello> I want to make an app that communicates with a Tomcat Server
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  2541. # [22:15] <mattqmello> but, how is this possible
  2542. # [22:15] <mattqmello> ?
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  2544. # [22:16] <mattqmello> You guys understand?
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  2548. # [22:18] <mattqmello> Hey guys, come on?
  2549. # [22:18] <mattqmello> :(
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  2555. # [22:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/110171f903b1 - David Anderson - Fix resize jank on Linux with OMTC (bug 926618, r=mattwoodrow).
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  2558. # [22:21] <johns> yury: ping
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  2561. # [22:22] <yury> johns: pong
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  2563. # [22:23] <johns> yury: I'm working on bug 558184 to add a more-proper JS-Plugin API -- do pdf.js or shumway use the ignoreCTP option in the current play preview stuff?
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  2569. # [22:24] <yury> johns: pdf.js yes, and there is a switch for shumway to select ignoreCTP mode
  2570. # [22:25] <johns> yury: hmm okay
  2571. # [22:26] <yury> johns: ideally we would like to have something in between
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  2576. # [22:27] <yury> johns: we are looking for: if there is no native plugin, then ignoreCTP = true; if there is one and it's enabled, ignoreCTP = false
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  2578. # [22:28] <johns> yury: So in the latter case the user would get a CTP prompt, then clicking on it would run pdfjs/shumway?
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  2582. # [22:29] <yury> johns: it will pdf.js/shumway and will have capability to fallback to the plugin
  2583. # [22:30] <yury> it will run pdf.js/shumway
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  2585. # [22:30] <johns> yury: But you never want the user to have to click through the CTP UI to activate shumway/pdfjs in the first place, right?
  2586. # [22:31] <johns> yury: e.g. have js-plugins themselves be click-to-play
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  2589. # [22:31] <yury> right, pdf.js/shumway is a replacement for CTP
  2590. # [22:31] <yury> specialized one
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  2592. # [22:32] <yury> johns: we are still talking to the UX people, but idea is to be able to run shumway with users clicking stuff
  2593. # [22:33] <yury> sorry, *without*
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  2595. # [22:34] <yury> as I understand: best UX is no UX :)
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  2605. # [22:41] <TheOne> ttaubert: the author of that add-on just filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=929097
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  2609. # [22:43] <ttaubert> TheOne: okay, thanks
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  2635. # [22:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1ce50371389 - Terrence Cole - Bug 928056 - Do not pause for background compilation before ggc; r=bhackett,r=billm
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  2637. # [22:59] <h4writer> I'm having a mochitest fail in "B2G ICS Emulator Opt". Does anybody knows if it is possible to reproduce myself? I.e. to make debugging easier?
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  2646. # [23:01] <mbrubeck> h4writer: I don't know if it's up-to-date, but there are some docs at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Auto-tools/B2G/Running_Emulator_Tests#Mochitests
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  2648. # [23:01] <philor> didn't Calvin try reproducing himself, with the Transmogrifier, to make doing his homework easier, and it didn't work out?
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  2650. # [23:03] <h4writer> mbrubeck, do I need an actual device for this? Or is everything emulated?
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  2682. # [23:25] <mbrubeck> h4writer: (sorry, I was away) -- I think the emulator runs entirely on a PC
  2683. # [23:25] <mbrubeck> no real ARM device required
  2684. # [23:25] <h4writer> mbrubeck, oh that would be awesome. Thanks
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  2709. # [23:36] <spohl> I'd think the last commentator in bug 625989 might deserve to be banned from bugzilla, no? what's the process for that? does this need 'nomination' of some sort?
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  2719. # [23:40] <Unfocused> spohl: yea, think its being worked on
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  2721. # [23:41] <spohl> Unfocused: cool, thanks!
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  2747. # [23:54] <damons> Getting sec_error_ocsp_old_response problems on twitter.com. Firefox 25 release version. OCSP stapling issue? Is this Moz's bug or nginx? Also found https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=923887 . Dunno if that's relevant. But… still…can't load any css from twitter. Reloads don't work either.
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  2758. # [23:58] <Gijs> damons: recently saw people mentioning https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=929063#c12
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  2760. # [23:59] <Gijs> damons: might be what you need?
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