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# Session Start: Tue Oct 22 00:00:00 2013
# Session Ident: #developers
# [00:00] <JosiahOne> Where does one go to get a user banned from Bugzilla?
# [00:00] <damons> Gijs: Looking
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# [00:01] <Gijs> damons: see comment 5 there also
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# [00:01] <Gijs> JosiahOne: in #bmo
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# [00:02] <geekboy> damons: keeler might know
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# [00:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ad6254a681f1 - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 916949 - Change __noSuchMethod__ so that it only gets invoked on undefined bindings. r=jorendorff
# [00:03] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: ping
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# [00:03] <Ghost_Of_JNG> Why did you murder me?! AVENGE ME
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# [00:05] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: nm, commented on the bug. I think you forgot to ask reviews on the dom-config.mk patch.
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# [00:10] <mrbkap> Is there a known gfx regression on Linux?
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# [00:11] <damons> Gijs: Yep. That's the problem.
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# [00:13] <keeler> damons: was your ocsp stapling question answered?
# [00:13] <damons> Yeah. That's the issue.
# [00:13] <Dagger> mrbkap: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=928727
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# [00:13] <damons> It's a bug. It's supposedly fixxed.
# [00:14] <damons> At least it revealed twitter's LOLCAT language option when the CSS skinning was removed. :) https://twitter.com/?lang=xx-lc
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# [00:17] <mrbkap> Dagger: thanks!
# [00:17] <mrbkap> Dagger++
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# [00:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b299be671230 - Luke Wagner - Bug 922432 - OdinMonkey: improve error reporting (r=sstangl)
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# [00:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9349b9b4b22c - Sebastian Wong - Bug 827160 - added HTMLObjectElement typemustmatch check as well as unit tests. r=johns,sr=bz
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# [00:37] <Mossop> Do we have a way to read from an nsIInputStream into an arraybuffer in JS?
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# [00:40] <sicking> Mossop: yes. BinaryInputStream or some such iirc
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# [00:40] <Mossop> sicking: Marvelous, thanks
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# [00:41] <sicking> Mossop: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/test/progressserver.sjs#24
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# [00:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99b17c404db2 - Trevor Saunders - backout the part of e40a964458f8 that should never have landed
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# [00:49] <fabrice> geekboy: ping
# [00:49] <geekboy> hah
# [00:49] <geekboy> pong, sent you a pm
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# [00:52] <philor> who broke inbound in dom/camera?
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# [00:53] <tbsaunde> philor: after my second patch or just the first?
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# [00:54] <tbsaunde> I suspect I did breka it in between the two... :-(
# [00:54] <philor> tbsaunde: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=29457730&tree=Mozilla-Inbound is on the second one
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# [00:54] <philor> or are one or both, like every damn thing in my universe, needs-clobber?
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# [00:56] <tbsaunde> philor: no, I'm a total dumb ass, back me out
# [00:56] <philor> no can do, I'm at work
# [00:56] <tbsaunde> (I wanted to revert some files in dom/camera not all of them)
# [00:56] <philor> not the makefile including dom/dom-config.mk, anyway :)
# [00:57] <tbsaunde> yeah, and the moz.build file if I touched it, should I just reland that part then?
# [00:57] <philor> not sure, because there's https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=29457720&tree=Mozilla-Inbound before that one
# [00:58] <philor> maybe if you reland and touch CLOBBER, maybe not, dunno
# [00:58] <KWierso> philor: what needs backed out? I can do it in a few minutes
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# [00:58] <philor> gotta be clobber, there are Windows builds below that which got far enough to trigger tests already
# [00:59] <tbsaunde> philor: I think that should be fixed by the second patch
# [00:59] <tbsaunde> how the tree built since my first patch I don't know
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# [01:01] <philor> by clobbering, and the second patch is totally burning everything, so how can it fix anything?
# [01:01] <philor> I think I'm getting confused
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# [01:02] <tbsaunde> philor: you never heard of a patch that breaks one thing and fixes another different one?
# [01:02] <tbsaunde> I'm about to back both out fwiw
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# [01:05] <firebot> Check-in:
# [01:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0299469f7961 - Trevor Saunders - Backed out changeset 99b17c404db2 and e40a964458f8 for landing stuff that shouldn't have and then backing out stuff that should have stayed on a CLOSED TREE
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# [01:09] <@smaug> hmm, what is the syntax for chrome.ini files?
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# [01:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f5dd1dc2ae18 - John Schoenick - Bug 827160 - Followup, disable test on non-plugin platforms. r=me
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# [01:13] <johns> philor: 9349b9b4b22c's test is non-applicable to b2g/android. I'm not sure that it'll fail there but if it does.... ^
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# [01:21] <philor> johns: if it does, I'll have forgotten you already took care of it, and yell at you about it ;)
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# [01:22] <johns> philor: I'll certainly deserve it :-P
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# [01:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be0d4775e0ff - David Anderson - Fix landing fail for bug 901789 (bug 924121, r=bsmedberg).
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# [01:47] <KWierso> philor: what's the policy for bustage from gaia? not sure I have backout permissions...
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# [01:48] <philor> KWierso: the system I have always followed is "/j #gaia, 'hey, test bustage from {this push from this bug}, can someone back it out?', ..., ..., ..., ..., ..., ..., /part #gaia"
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# [01:49] <philor> Kwierso: though I have had a little bit of luck with bug comments sometimes
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# [01:51] <fabrice> KWierso: feel free to backout
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# [01:58] <mccr8> KWierso: hey, do you have an ESR24 tree around and could land something for me?
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# [01:58] <mccr8> if not I will begin the cloning.
# [01:58] <KWierso> mccr8: nope, and it'll probably take me longer to clone than you :)
# [01:58] <mccr8> KWierso: okay thanks anyways. :)
# [01:58] <KWierso> sorry
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# [01:59] <mccr8> np
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# [02:06] <@njn> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=researchers.html is nice
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# [02:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a31b0fd17a7a - Matthew Gregan - Bug 926665 - Clear mMediaSource when Attach fails. r=doublec.
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# [03:00] <nemo> hm. IE has made some decent gains on kraken in my personal informal testing
# [03:00] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/kraken.xhtml
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# [03:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6722e803c598 - Mike Hommey - Bug 886736 - Disable on-demand decompression when latency to get into segfault handlers is too high. r=nfroyd
# [03:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2a344cf7aca2 - Mike Hommey - Bug 927775 - Cleanup xpcom/typelib/xpt/tools/Makefile.in. r=mshal
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# [03:36] <mchen> Hi, may I know firefox support CE-HTML or not? thanks.
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# [05:25] <Srinath> anyone: ping?
# [05:25] <nigelb> er, hi?
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# [05:26] <Srinath> hi nigelb, I want to import a patch from bugzilla.
# [05:26] <Srinath> i tried hg import patchname.patch
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# [05:26] <Srinath> but hg showed an error stating abort: cannot import over an applied patch
# [05:26] <nigelb> have you already applied it?
# [05:26] <Srinath> no but I have other patches applied for other bugs..
# [05:27] <nigelb> hrm, are you using the patch queue?
# [05:27] <nigelb> (Note: I'm not a mercurial expert)
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# [05:28] <Srinath> I'm a total beginner as far as mq goes. the patches are the ones which i already fixed.. they already went into the mozilla-central tree.
# [05:28] <Srinath> so not really sure about queues..
# [05:28] <nigelb> heh, we're two beginners trying to solve a problem.
# [05:29] <nigelb> I suggest watiting for someone who knows what they're doign with hg. I don't know enough to help :)
# [05:29] <Srinath> okay! thanks though!!
# [05:29] <nigelb> sorry I couldn't be of much help
# [05:29] <Srinath> no problem nigelb
# [05:30] <Callek|SeaMonkeyDuty> Srinath: hg qimport, rather than hg import
# [05:30] <Callek|SeaMonkeyDuty> Srinath: is my suspicion anyway
# [05:30] <Unfocused> yea, qimport
# [05:30] <@khuey> just use git
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# [05:30] <@khuey> problem solved
# [05:31] <Callek|SeaMonkeyDuty> (basing my suspicion statement purely on not reading all scrollback)
# [05:31] <Unfocused> khuey: and 99 problems created ;)
# [05:31] <Callek|SeaMonkeyDuty> khuey: "now you have two problems"
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# [05:31] <@khuey> Callek|SeaMonkeyDuty: only 2?
# [05:31] <Srinath> Callek, hg says the patch already exists but qtop does not show this patch..
# [05:31] <Unfocused> Srinath: qseries
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# [05:32] <Callek|SeaMonkeyDuty> khuey: I count using git as one large problem in itself, the reasons it is a problem have lots of little baby problems, we'll call those problems tribbles
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# [05:32] <Unfocused> day of the tribbles
# [05:32] <Srinath> Unfocused, the patch does not show up there either..
# [05:33] <Srinath> but qimport says the patch is already applied..
# [05:33] <nigelb> Callek|SeaMonkeyDuty: we should do an Ubuntu derivative called troubled tribbles for 14.04 ;)
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# [05:33] <Unfocused> paste the exact log of input & output?
# [05:34] <Callek|SeaMonkeyDuty> (also `hg out -v` may be a good help here
# [05:34] <nigelb> Ugh, I wish I knew how to read asan failures.
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# [05:37] <Srinath> Unfocused, from inside the patches folder I ran "hg qimport georgPatch.patch" the following error came up "abort: patch "georgPatch.patch" already exists"
# [05:38] <Srinath> the file georgPatch.patch was created manually by copying the contents of the patch from bugzilla..
# [05:39] <Unfocused> if you run commands from within the patches folder, you're going to have problems
# [05:40] <Unfocused> go back to your working dir
# [05:40] <Unfocused> and do it from there
# [05:40] <nigelb> Isn't there the fun thing baout versioning the patches folder with hg?
# [05:40] <Unfocused> qimport/qpush/qpop/etc etc all know what to do appropriately
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# [05:41] <Unfocused> nigelb: yea. you can do that within the patches folder... but IMO it's less confusing to pass in the --mq parameter when using push/pull/etc
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# [05:41] <Srinath> unfocused, perfect! worked..
# [05:41] <nigelb> Unfocused: Yeah, that's what I was told when I last used it.
# [05:41] <Srinath> thank you!!
# [05:41] <Unfocused> saves accidentally trying to do qimport/qpush/qpop/etc from there
# [05:41] <Unfocused> :) n/p
# [05:42] <nigelb> Unfocused++
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# [08:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0cdded23600c - Mike Hommey - Bug 926733 - Enable bug 921003. r=gps
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# [08:30] <zsteve> hello everyone
# [08:30] <zsteve> first try at fixing a bug
# [08:30] <zsteve> :)
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# [08:31] <@khuey> hi zsteve
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# [08:33] <zsteve> is there anything special I need to do to make an incremental build or
# [08:33] <zsteve> do I just do mach build
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# [08:33] <@khuey> just do mach build
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# [08:36] <firebot> roc was last seen 4 days, 5 hours, 18 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying 'yes, that' in #media.
# [08:36] <zsteve> k
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# [08:37] <@khuey> mjrosenb: he's at a work week in paris
# [08:37] <@khuey> everything I see mozilla::nsFoo I die a little inside
# [08:38] <mjrosenb> khuey: danke.
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# [08:45] <zsteve> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752559
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# [08:46] <zsteve> apparently the bug has something to do with finding the mParentDocument?
# [08:46] <zsteve> for some reason
# [08:46] <zsteve> nsresult rv = nsContentUtils::CheckSameOrigin(this, mParentDocument);
# [08:46] <zsteve> this is not enough...
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# [08:55] <zsteve> help anyone?
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# [08:56] <zsteve> and how do I apply a patch?
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# [08:57] <@khuey> zsteve: hg import <patch file>
# [08:57] <@khuey> or maybe patch -p1 <patch file> if you want to do it old-school
# [08:58] <zsteve> ok
# [08:58] <zsteve> thanks
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# [09:00] <zsteve> I get abort: bad hunk
# [09:01] <@khuey> that's unfortunate
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# [09:01] <zsteve> grrr
# [09:01] <@khuey> zsteve: that patch looks pretty simple, just apply it by hand?
# [09:01] <zsteve> right
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# [09:01] <zsteve> so if it fails, it's the patch's problem or is it the target?
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# [09:02] <@khuey> could be either
# [09:02] <@khuey> abort: bad hunk suggests there's something wrong with the patch
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# [09:03] <@khuey> reject files suggest the target has changed
# [09:03] <zsteve> aha
# [09:03] <zsteve> yes it has
# [09:03] <kk1fff> is it possible to get a framescriptloader from the message got from ppmm?
# [09:03] <zsteve> target's changed and now I can't find out where to put the patch manually
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# [09:03] <zsteve> line numbers are different now
# [09:04] <@khuey> this is bug 752559?
# [09:04] <zsteve> yes
# [09:05] <@khuey> probably around http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsDocument.cpp#2460
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# [09:05] <zsteve> ok thank you
# [09:05] <@khuey> grep or that webtool are your friends ;-)
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# [09:19] <firebot> Check-in:
# [09:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07dec571ca95 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 928674 followup: Use Maybe<> to maybe-initialize an enum in AccessibleWrap.cpp, rather than shoehorning an integer with a sentinel value and static_casts. r=tbsaunde
# [09:19] <zsteve> approx. how long does an incremental build take?
# [09:19] <@khuey> depends on the platform
# [09:19] <zsteve> because mine is still going
# [09:19] <@khuey> and how much you changed
# [09:19] <@khuey> windows is slow
# [09:19] <zsteve> I only applied that patch
# [09:19] <zsteve> so...
# [09:19] <zsteve> max +10 lines in 1 file
# [09:19] <@khuey> unix platforms a few minutes with decent hardware
# [09:19] <zsteve> and it's building libEGL and DX
# [09:20] <zsteve> doesn't seem related
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# [09:21] <zsteve> so linux is always faster?
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# [09:24] <@khuey> to build?
# [09:24] <@khuey> yeah
# [09:24] <@khuey> on windows we have to run the build in some unix emulation layer
# [09:24] <tonymec> zsteve: Windows is slower. Personally I don't know how Lin & Mac compare.
# [09:25] <zsteve> if I want to build on linux, can I just copy mozilla-central?
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# [09:25] <zsteve> or do I need to grab the src again from hg?
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# [09:27] <tonymec> zsteve: for Firefox you can hg clone mozilla-central, or start with a bundle (see hg help bundle).
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# [09:29] <tonymec> zsteve: see also https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Simple_Firefox_build
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# [09:29] <zsteve> yes, but the thing is that the mozilla source seems to be huge, and my internet allowance from ISP is capped
# [09:29] <zsteve> * limited
# [09:30] <zsteve> so (a) how big is the source
# [09:30] <tonymec> it is big
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# [09:30] <zsteve> (b) can I copy it over to my linux install off hdisk without breaking
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# [09:30] <zsteve> gigabyte?
# [09:30] <TheOne> "We know it took a while, but your build finally finished successfully!"
# [09:31] <@khuey> dbaron: if you see bent can you tell him to get on IRC? ;-)
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# [09:31] <tonymec> (b) if you already have an hg clone on your Win hdisk you can create a bundle from that, copy it over, and unbundle it. No internet bandwidth required.
# [09:31] <gcp> my .hg dir seems to be 1.4G
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# [09:35] <zsteve> ok
# [09:35] <zsteve> thanks
# [09:35] <zsteve> mine is 2.1gigs
# [09:36] <zsteve> or some reason
# [09:36] <zsteve> *for
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# [09:38] <tonymec> zsteve: if your internet is capped, or subject to timeouts, you might be interested in https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Source_Code/Mercurial/Bundles -- read it attentively because I haven't reread it recently. I've read it maybe a year or so ago and it seemed interesting.
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# [09:39] <zsteve> hmm
# [09:39] <tonymec> zsteve: especially as an alternative to the first clone
# [09:39] <zsteve> will look into it next time
# [09:39] <zsteve> hg bundle -a is running nicely
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# [09:41] <tonymec> zsteve: often there are several ways to achieve a given result. In those cases, use whatever is best for you. (It might be other than what I prefer.)
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# [09:41] <zsteve> :)
# [09:43] <zsteve> I assume I will get a single browser ELF file when I complete the build in nix?
# [09:43] <zsteve> * along with lots of other ones, but I will get a "firefox" file?
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# [09:46] <@khuey> zsteve: you'll get a firefox binary
# [09:46] <@khuey> and a bunch of .so files
# [09:46] <tonymec> zsteve: if you "make package" you should get a tar.bz2 just like those you see on the Mozilla FTP servers
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# [09:46] <tonymec> zsteve: that's the recommended way to end a build
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# [09:47] <tonymec> zsteve: there are other steps before that, of course.
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# [09:51] <tonymec> zsteve: in my experience the hardest step (and the most memory-hungry) is when the "build" step comes to the point where it links the omni.ja -- that's where you see if your computer has enough clout
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# [09:53] <tonymec> or is it the libxul? Well, one of those two.
# [09:54] <glazou> bonjour
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# [09:56] <glandium> http://cplusplus.github.io/LWG/lwg-active.html#2340 yay
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# [09:59] <zsteve> usually how long does hg bundle take?
# [09:59] <glandium> zsteve: a long time
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# [10:26] <zsteve> ok well it's been interestring
# [10:26] <zsteve> mozilla firefox is a massive project
# [10:26] <zsteve> check up on the bug later
# [10:26] <zsteve> byes
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# [10:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a03c584f9874 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 920425 part.28 Use mozilla::WidgetEvent::AsMouseEvent() r=smaug
# [10:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd05abee0fca - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 920425 part.29 Use mozilla::WidgetEvent::AsGUIEvent() r=smaug
# [10:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0dc6eccf8c77 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 920425 part.30 Use mozilla::WidgetEvent::AsWheelEvent() r=smaug
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# [11:07] <nthomas> webdev-y jenkins server
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# [11:11] <NeilAway> whoa, 1400 lines of idl in one interface?
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# [11:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ececa191d8b5 - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 928870 - Add test for Android gUM doorhanger. r=gbrown
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# [11:19] <seth> tbpl isn't working too well for me at the moment
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# [11:19] <Ms2ger> Wait :)
# [11:20] <@khuey> hrm
# [11:20] <NeilAway> nthomas: ah, I was just wondering why gps keeps linking to documents on it
# [11:20] <@khuey> who can I trick into debugging an armv6 failure for me
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# [11:20] <nthomas> NeilAway: build system documentation ?
# [11:20] <NeilAway> nthomas: right
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# [11:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e197b100ba53 - Markus Stange - Bug 890997 - Enable OMTC on 10.6. r=bgirard
# [11:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30cead166709 - Markus Stange - Bug 886999 - Lock the GL context before compositing on the compositor thread or before calling setView or update on the main thread. r=mattwoodrow
# [11:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/03f9c4191bf0 - Markus Stange - Bug 914437 - Don't composite windows that are not open. r=mattwoodrow
# [11:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/505f83c2c5b2 - Markus Stange - Bug 886999 - Wait until composition has finished before tearing down our NSView. r=mattwoodrow
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# [11:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8952c5133a67 - Markus Stange - Bug 914437 - Also refuse to render when our view is not attached to a window. r=mattwoodrow
# [11:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa082c3dc993 - Markus Stange - Bug 923133 - Remove unneeded main thread GL context management in -[ChildView lockFocus]. r=mattwoodrow
# [11:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30c25c68bb3e - Markus Stange - Bug 923114 - Clear the current GL context when we're about to destroy it. r=mattwoodrow
# [11:22] <seth> Ms2ger: you're so conservative about these things =p
# [11:22] <ewong> can someone point out what kind of tests that would save a screenshot and save it to the log?
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# [11:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c7c44b9f29f - Markus Stange - Bug 886999 - Only call setView and update on the GL context when necessary. r=mattwoodrow
# [11:23] <@khuey> ewong: reftests?
# [11:23] <ewong> khuey: thanks!
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# [11:25] <seth> will firefox EVER finish shutting down?
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# [11:25] <Yoric> seth: What's the problem?
# [11:25] <seth> Yoric: good question =)
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# [11:26] <seth> Yoric: i quit FF nightly like 3 minutes ago and it's still shutting down
# [11:26] <Ms2ger> seth, yes :)
# [11:26] <Yoric> seth: If the problem is related to AsyncShutdown, your Firefox should crash in ~1 minute.
# [11:26] <@khuey> lol
# [11:26] <@khuey> seth: not enough time to play The Final Countdown :-/
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# [11:26] <Yoric> Note: That's by design. It crashes and annotates the crash with relevant information.
# [11:27] <seth> khuey: maybe the radio edit =)
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# [11:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b4090b2d434 - Landry Breuil - Bug 928651: #include <assert.h> in cubeb_sndio.c to fix libxul linking r=padenot
# [11:28] <seth> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/01232c0f42e62aaa9840
# [11:28] <seth> that's the backtrace for all threads
# [11:29] <gaston> is there a bug for automagically add a comment with the push/cset url to bugzilla when pushing it ?
# [11:30] <@khuey> seth: bad audio
# [11:30] <@khuey> /video
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# [11:30] <Yoric> seth: Ok, it's not my fault :)
# [11:30] <ewong> oh yay.. oom crash
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# [11:31] <seth> heh
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# [11:38] <seth> filed it
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# [11:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: hm somehow the linux build have problems after your push
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# [11:43] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: that'd be 928204
# [11:45] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: can you back it out for now?
# [11:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: yeah sure
# [11:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=29481116&tree=Mozilla-Inbound is btw the error
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# [11:46] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: i know, that's why i know which of my landings is responsible
# [11:46] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: and it's not the one it's failing on
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# [11:47] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah ok
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# [11:50] <nrc> The top story on hacker news is a bugzilla bug. This will not end well :-(
# [11:50] <glandium> nrc: java?
# [11:50] <@khuey> everybody go downvote
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# [11:51] <glandium> http://gigaom.com/2013/10/15/monty-montgomery-joins-mozilla-for-daala/ don't we have all of xiph.org now?
# [11:51] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: backout done
# [11:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/977832233384 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset f90eb21ea4cd (bug 928204) for build failures on Linux PGO
# [11:52] <nrc> glandium: yup
# [11:52] <@khuey> glandium: we got the whole set
# [11:52] <nrc> gotta catch 'em all!
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# [11:54] <Yoric> khuey: Can we downvote on HN?
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# [11:54] <@khuey> Yoric: you can if you have cool powers
# [11:54] <glandium> nrc, khuey: mozilla might as well eat xiph.org (the foundation), now
# [11:55] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thanks
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# [11:55] <@khuey> everyone dropped offline
# [11:55] <@khuey> except me
# [11:55] <glandium> khuey: bouncer?
# [11:55] <@khuey> yeah
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# [11:56] <@khuey> but my network connection is fine
# [11:56] <@khuey> from here to the bouncer
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# [11:56] <@khuey> and elsewhere
# [11:56] <edmorley> glandium: could https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=0cdded23600c be needs-clobber?
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# [11:57] <glandium> edmorley: no
# [11:57] <edmorley> glandium: oh missed backscroll and backout
# [11:57] <glandium> edmorley: i know what the problem is, i'll need some testing, so i got tomcat to backout the problem
# [11:58] <edmorley> :-)
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# [11:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
# [11:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> and i used edmorley's documentation on backouts and that closed the loop ;)
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# [12:00] <Gijs> Pop quiz: what's the difference between a XBL field and XBL property?
# [12:00] <Gijs> (to be clear, I don't know the answer)
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# [12:02] <Unfocused> Gijs: property has getter/setter code, field is just a variable slot
# [12:02] <Gijs> Unfocused: yeah, I got confused because I saw fields being inited with stuff that looked like getters - but it seems that even if there's a lot of code there, that's only run once, not for every fetch.
# [12:03] <Unfocused> yep
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# [12:03] <Unfocused> they're sometimes used to hold objects containing code
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# [12:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a047800e4772 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 928727 - Share code for getting the user-space clip bounds in DrawTargetCairo. r=jrmuizel
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# [12:38] <decoder> edmorley: sorry for the confusion yesterday, I assumed you wanted something else (more complex) than the fix in the tbpl bug now. I assumed you wanted the signature from asan inside the tbpl signature
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# [12:38] <Optimizer> !seen gerv
# [12:38] <firebot> gerv was last seen 6 days, 50 minutes and 20 seconds ago, saying 'pong.' in #developers.
# [12:39] <edmorley> decoder: no problem - glad we got to the bottom of it in the end :-)
# [12:39] <edmorley> decoder: thank you for looking into it
# [12:39] <decoder> yep :) np :)
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# [12:40] <past> anyone else seeing 'stddef.h not found' errors during build?
# [12:40] <past> this is on Ubuntu 13.10 w/ clang
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# [13:06] <@smaug> so why do we need chrome.ini files?
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# [13:10] <Gijs> smaug: AIUI it reduces the build overhead of tests and test dirs, but don't take my word for it.
# [13:10] <Optimizer> So.. when does Gervase come back ? or can I have another person related to licensing et.al) ?
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# [13:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cbc16502b686 - John Daggett - Bug 915440 - move null URL fix to after format hint is processed. r=dbaron
# [13:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8216ac55094 - John Daggett - Bug 915440. Crashtest for empty font URL. r=me
# [13:11] <NeilAway> Gijs: field initialisers are special, they used to be evaulated at binding time but now they're lazy
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# [13:11] <Gijs> NeilAway: yeah, I thought it must be something like that, all those document.getElementById / getAnonymousElementByAttribute calls...
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# [13:15] <@smaug> Gijs: hmm, that is surprising. Why couldn't we have the same data in moz.build files
# [13:15] <past> is clang 3.3 on Linux considered a supported build configuration?
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# [13:16] <Gijs> smaug: I'm really not the right person to ask. Maybe try gps or glandium or asking in m.d.platform
# [13:16] <past> Optimizer: use licensing@mozilla.org
# [13:17] <Optimizer> mail :|
# [13:17] <Gijs> Optimizer: gerv is rarely around, but what past said works.
# [13:17] <Gijs> s/around/around on IRC/
# [13:18] <Optimizer> past: thanks :)
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# [13:24] <glandium> smaug: chrome.ini?
# [13:24] <glandium> smaug: ah, chrome mochitest manifests
# [13:25] <glandium> i'm not sure why they are separate files
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# [13:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b58ac61431bc - Seth Fowler - Bug 764299 (Part 4) - Cache rasterized surfaces in VectorImage. r=dholbert
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# [13:51] <@khuey> mmm this java bug is great
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# [13:55] <@khuey> gfritzsche: the one on hacker news
# [13:56] <gfritzsche> khuey: oh, the story in general... i thought there was some interesting related breakage :)
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# [14:25] <froydnj> the rtsp stuff?
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# [15:14] <Yoric> UNREACHABLE executed at ASTContext.cpp:4637 while building
# [15:14] <Yoric> That doesn't sound good.
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# [15:21] <gfritzsche> Tomcat|sheriffduty: heads-up on Aurora bustage on my first push - i've pushed a fix but i'm not sure how to star the failures
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# [15:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: hey thats the No rule to make target `plugin_big.html'. Stop. failure right ? :)
# [15:23] <Ms2ger> Forgot a file?
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# [15:24] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> will do the staring :)
# [15:24] <froydnj> bbouvier: can you push all those patches as a single push next time, please?
# [15:24] <Ms2ger> Tomcat, you'll stare at gfritzsche?
# [15:25] <gfritzsche> Tomcat|sheriffduty: exactly, thanks :)
# [15:25] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: yep :P
# [15:25] <gfritzsche> Ms2ger: Menacingly, i presume.
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# [15:26] <bbouvier> froydnj: sure, but I've been told that it's better if any of the patches gets backed out
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# [15:26] <Bas> ted: I was wondering if you knew when we'd release a new Mozilla build that works with VS2013? I've managed to hack it to work but it was a bit of a pain.
# [15:27] <bbouvier> froydnj: sorry about that
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# [15:29] <froydnj> bbouvier: s'ok. but at least all the patches from a single bug can land together
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# [15:31] <jimm> Bas: what's in vc12 that has you wanting to upgrade from vc11 for your builds?
# [15:31] <jimm> just curious, I haven't upgraded yet, don't see any compelling reason to.
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# [15:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4827bdae97fd - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 602787 part.2 Don't implement nsIWidgetListener in its header file r=roc
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# [15:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa0f355e7871 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 602787 part.1 Don't implement PresShell::Delayed*Event class in nsPresShell.h r=smaug
# [15:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c35693be3d3 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 602787 part.5 Use EventForwards.h in TabParent.h r=smaug
# [15:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b9f1062d915 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 602787 part.7 Don't implement methods which use Widget*Event in qt/nsWindow.h r=romaxa
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# [15:42] <edmorley> Bas: RyanVM is doing MozillaBuild maintenance now; he's PTO this week
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# [15:43] <Waldo> ugh, Auckland is exactly opposite time from me right now :-\
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# [15:44] <@khuey> good thing most of Auckland is in Paris this week
# [15:45] <Waldo> o rly
# [15:45] <Waldo> wonder if that includes ^
# [15:45] <mattwoodrow> it doesn't
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# [15:45] <Waldo> haha
# [15:45] <Ms2ger> Oh, do you have heycam there?
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# [15:46] <@khuey> heycam is not from Auckland
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# [15:46] <Ms2ger> No, but he was going to Paris
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# [15:46] <@khuey> did he fail to arrive?
# [15:46] <Ms2ger> Dunno
# [15:46] <Waldo> different au-place
# [15:47] <Ms2ger> I need him to do reviews :)
# [15:47] <@khuey> I need bent to do reviews
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# [15:47] <@khuey> and bsmedberg
# [15:47] <Ms2ger> Hah, glwt
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# [15:48] <@khuey> and peterv
# [15:48] <@khuey> it's the trifecta
# [15:48] <@khuey> do I win something?
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# [15:49] <Ms2ger> khuey, yep. Patience.
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# [15:50] <mwu> hmmm. who's sherriff right now?
# [15:50] <Yoric> khuey: Nah, _bsmedberg is too busy getting insulted on bugzilla.
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# [15:50] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mwu: me :)
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# [15:50] <@khuey> Yoric: that has been a fun bug
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# [15:50] <Ms2ger> One to stay away from :)
# [15:50] <mwu> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ok. I'm looking at landing a manifest change which may turn hamachi red almost everywhere
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# [15:50] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: ^ : )
# [15:50] * Ms2ger gets enough bugmail from the nfc bug
# [15:50] <mwu> or it may just work.
# [15:51] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah ok
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# [15:51] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ty
# [15:51] <Yoric> ...and, as it turns out, by the guy I helped figure out the problem with his Java-based website. He got his Java feature detection wrong, and now it's somehow _bsmedberg's fault.
# [15:51] <Yoric> (facepalm)
# [15:51] * glob wonders if it's worth restricting comments on the java bug
# [15:51] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah might be a good idea
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# [15:52] <Ms2ger> glob, only 60 comments yet
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# [15:52] <Pike> can we set the minimal offensiveness and fake bugmail sending so that it's an efficient troll-trap?
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# [15:52] <Ms2ger> glob, if it gets over a hundred, do it ;)
# [15:52] <glob> hrm, bsmedberg has the ability to do it, and hasn't. i think i'll leave it
# [15:53] <@bsmedberg> yeah, I don't want to restrict that bug yet
# [15:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> seems bug 927273 will be the little brother of the java bug
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# [15:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> "DEAR MORONS,PLEASE REVERSE THE BLOCK ASAP"....
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# [15:55] <heycam> I did arrive, and am still here
# [15:56] <Ms2ger> Aha
# [15:56] <Ms2ger> heycam, r??? ;)
# [15:56] <heycam> patience :)
# [15:56] <Ms2ger> heycam, I'm bad at that... :)
# [15:56] <heycam> (but yes I'll review those layout/style/ cleanups)
# [15:57] <nrc> haha!I think will start all my bugzilla comments with 'DEAR MORONS' from now on
# [15:57] <froydnj> Ms2ger: maybe you need to submit more patches to bent and peterv to learn patience, just like khuey :)
# [15:57] <@khuey> heh
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# [15:58] <Waldo> do nightly builds on Windows always include PGO?
# [15:58] <Ms2ger> nrc, DEAR MORONS, please review my patch
# [15:58] <Ms2ger> froydnj, speaking of which, I've got one in peterv's queue I need to whine about
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# [15:59] <nrc> Ms2ger: that sounds like a way to get a quick r+, right?
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# [16:01] <@khuey> Waldo: yes
# [16:01] <matthewgertner> is there some easyish way to prevent a window from being restored by the session saver?
# [16:01] <matthewgertner> I'm closing a window during browser shutdown and the session saver is still restoring it
# [16:01] <matthewgertner> since it "freezes" the state during shutdown
# [16:02] <matthewgertner> after examine the code, the only way I can see to do it is to use SessionStore.getBrowserState(), change the state myself and then SessionStore.setBrowserState()
# [16:02] <matthewgertner> *examining
# [16:03] <Waldo> good (for my purposes)
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# [16:04] * Waldo idly wonders when/how we managed to go to many multiples of 5MB download size everywhere
# [16:05] <froydnj> Waldo: icu ;)
# [16:05] <Waldo> there's that peanut gallery!
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# [16:06] <Waldo> there were 999 cuts before ICU that I somehow missed, and a policy decision about going significantly above 5MB, are mostly what I mean, of course
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# [16:08] <mwu> Tomcat|sheriffduty / edmorley : nevermind, need to do something else before attempting this manifest update
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# [16:08] <edmorley|sheriffduty> mwu: ok, thank you
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# [16:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> cool
# [16:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> thx edmorley|sheriffduty :)
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# [16:08] <froydnj> I think people might have complained about webrtc, but webrtc's build system doesn't suck as much as icu's does
# [16:08] <froydnj> and webrtc is a lot shinier than icu
# [16:09] <Waldo> you English speaker you
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# [16:09] <Waldo> even before webrtc, tho, we've been well above 5MB for many years
# [16:09] <froydnj> what, there are other languages?
# [16:09] <froydnj> other alphabets?
# [16:09] <@khuey> froydnj: have I told you about my plans for a --disable-unicode option?
# [16:09] <froydnj> khuey: haha, no
# [16:09] <jesup> When I started WebRTC we were near 16MB IIRC
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# [16:10] <mwu> just back out unicode
# [16:10] <@khuey> mwu: merging that backout would be a bitch
# [16:10] <jesup> I measured the difference for WebRTC once; it was around 1.5MB on Linux IIRC
# [16:10] <froydnj> punycode'd documents should be good enough for everyone
# [16:11] <@khuey> imagine how much less memory we'll use
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# [16:11] <jesup> If one cared enough
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# [16:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/42e53d0401e5 - Brian Hackett - Bug 928562 - Remove uses of JSContext for BytecodeAnalysis, BaselineInspector, and constructing bytecode type maps, r=jandem.
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# [16:12] <smontagu> utf1
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# [16:29] <@bsmedberg> mconnor: do SMART beeps come through the normal computer speakers?
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# [16:30] <mconnor> bsmedberg: oh, don't think so
# [16:30] <mconnor> if windows, you should be able to open the mixer and ssee what app is playing the sound
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# [16:31] <Yoric> They used to come from the PC speaker, but most computers don't have these anymore, do they?
# [16:31] <mconnor> Yoric: yeah, hmm, was just thinking the same thing
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# [16:39] <mdas> akeybl: I need to land a patch in aurora that fixes a small bug in marionette so that we can run some more smoke tests in b2g. Do I need to get approval to land this, or can a=test-only apply here?
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# [16:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/47797798a205 - Dan Gohman - Bug 928625 - IonMonkey: Don't emit Unbox operators for values which aren't used. r=bhackett
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# [16:45] <edmorley|sheriffduty> mdas: if is doesn't affect the shipping product directly, a=test-only is fine :-)
# [16:45] <edmorley|sheriffduty> s/is/it/
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# [16:46] <gaston> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/ProdNG_0.pdf interesting update of server os @google
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# [16:47] <gaston> pretty insane migration from rh 7.1 to debian
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# [16:51] <@bsmedberg> johns: remind me, do we fire onload events at embed/object if they are plugins? (And don't fire if click-to-play is active)
# [16:52] <mdas> edmorley|sheriffduty: thanks
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# [16:54] <Ms2ger> BenWa, worse, I *am* that bot ;)
# [16:54] <BenWa> Ms2ger: I'm only half surprised :)
# [16:55] <BenWa> Ms2ger: I like the idea of having patches be randomly audited for extra reviews :)
# [16:55] <Ms2ger> I should finish off the style checking tool
# [16:55] <Ms2ger> When I have infinite time
# [16:55] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: context? (bug?)
# [16:56] <edmorley|sheriffduty> :-)
# [16:56] <Ms2ger> Bug 929471
# [16:56] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ty
# [16:56] <jdm> heh
# [16:56] <Ms2ger> Or bug 875605?
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# [17:04] <nemo> hm
# [17:04] <nemo> I'm loading: http://www.quotehd.com/quotes/words/Democracy/3
# [17:04] <nemo> in currently nightly
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# [17:05] <nemo> if I hover over a quote it goes white for a second or two
# [17:05] <nemo> before appearing normally
# [17:05] <nemo> doesn't seem to happen in stable
# [17:05] <nemo> bug in the CSS transition maybe
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# [17:06] <nemo> hm. seems fine on OSX machine
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# [17:06] <nemo> layers accel bug w/ this video driver p'raps
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# [17:09] <mattwoodrow> nemo: Bug 928727 maybe
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# [17:13] <nemo> mattwoodrow: mm. p'raps. I'll check after next update I guess
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# [17:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/36b80b715f0d - Daniel Holbert - Bug 875275 part 4: Fix <input type="color"> reftests to adjust for being button-based. r=arnaud.bienner
# [17:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c6f3603c7216 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 677952: Remove unused public version of Relation::operator=. r=tbsaunde
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# [17:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/01df3e20496c - Daniel Holbert - Bug 875275 part 2: simplify forms.css for input[type="color"]. r=arnaud.bienner
# [17:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3975fe261080 - Arnaud Bienner - Bug 875275 part 1: Implement layout support for <input type="color">. r=dbaron,dholbert
# [17:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a1d2353f98a - Daniel Holbert - Bug 875275 part 3: Make nsColorControlFrame inherit from nsHTMLButtonControlFrame instead of nsBlockFrame. r=jwatt f=arnaud.bienner
# [17:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2fa3dc3a48c4 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 875275 part 6: Mark most <input type="color"> reftests as failing on B2G, due to bug 928877. (no review)
# [17:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/74cc51b0825a - Daniel Holbert - Bug 875275 part 5: Fix <input type="color"> reftests to set padding in author stylesheet in testcase when it's set in reference. r=arnaud.bienner
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# [17:36] <@bsmedberg> sheppy: do you know why navigator.plugins is listed as an experimental technology on MDN? Perhaps it's "nonstandardized" but hardly experimental... can I change it?
# [17:37] <sheppy> bsmedberg: Feel free to change it if it's not experimental.
# [17:37] <sheppy> Sounds like it was just mislabeled.
# [17:37] <@bsmedberg> ok
# [17:38] <smontagu> ehsan: ping
# [17:38] <@ehsan> smontagu: hi
# [17:38] <smontagu> ehsan: sorry not to see you at the work week
# [17:38] <smontagu> we planned a discussion tomorrow on transition to ICU
# [17:39] <@ehsan> smontagu: hehe I didn't come this time :)
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# [17:39] <@ehsan> smontagu: ok, what are you going to discuss?
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# [17:39] <smontagu> what ICU could be useful for, advantages of using it, disadvantages, blockers, next steps
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# [17:40] <smontagu> the biggest blocker that I'm aware of is bug 915735
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# [17:40] <@bsmedberg> sheppy: how do I see what a template does? in my case {{SeeCompatTable}}
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# [17:40] <smontagu> ehsan: can you give me a rough estimate how big that is, with nothing you say being held against you
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# [17:41] <smontagu> ehsan: the discussion itself is due for 11am tomorrow Paris time, which I suppose is somewhat in the middle of the night for you
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# [17:42] <@ehsan> smontagu: yeah, attempting to dial in to work week events have always worked really bad for me :)
# [17:42] <@ehsan> smontagu: here's the short version of the story
# [17:43] <@ehsan> smontagu: in order to share that code between libxul and js, we either need to have it all in one place (libxul) or build icu as a shared library
# [17:43] <@ehsan> smontagu: I managed to fix things enough to link js into libxul, but I cannot explain the PGO regressions
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# [17:44] <@ehsan> smontagu: I've asked help from the build system folks but for now nobody seems to have any idea what's causing the regressions
# [17:44] <@ehsan> therefore, I think we're gonna have to look into linking to icu dynamically from both js and xul
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# [17:44] <@ehsan> and take the regression of loading yet another DLL at startup etc
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# [17:45] <@ehsan> now, I have been planning to work on that
# [17:45] <smontagu> is that likely to be very serious?
# [17:45] <@ehsan> hard to say without trying
# [17:45] <@ehsan> it won't be too bad, I hope
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# [17:45] <@ehsan> but it's going to contribute to the death by a thousand cuts
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# [17:45] <@ehsan> anyhoo
# [17:45] <@ehsan> I'm going on vacation next week, and I still hope to be able to devote a few hours to this
# [17:46] <@ehsan> but my free time is really scarce these days :(
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# [17:47] <@ehsan> smontagu: does the above answer your question?
# [17:48] <smontagu> ehsan: yes thank you, that's enough for my purposes
# [17:48] <@ehsan> cool
# [17:48] <@ehsan> smontagu: also, you should know that the reason why I'm working on this is that I promised this to bent
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# [17:49] <@ehsan> smontagu: so one way to make me work on this might be to bribe Ben to give me a hard time on it ;)
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# [17:49] <smontagu> heh heh, I'll get on that right away
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# [17:49] <@smaug> smontagu: curious, will you perhaps have discussions about profiling/optimizing reflow speed, and maybe find someone to tweak interruptible reflow?
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# [17:54] <smontagu> smaug: dbaron and dholbert are talking about that kind of thing
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# [18:10] <Waldo> smontagu: is there any chance at all I would have any interest in the layout ICU discussion? (aside from just general-knowledge interest, at least, which I always have :-) )
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# [18:12] <smontagu> Waldo: you should know better than me what you're intierested in
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# [18:13] <smontagu> Waldo: do you have any feelings on whether we should do it?
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# [18:13] <Waldo> smontagu: use ICU for stuff? not especially one way or another, I feel like, you guys know more about what you'd want out of ICU
# [18:14] <smontagu> for example, annevk thinks it's healthier if not every browser in the world is using the same implementation
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# [18:14] <Waldo> that's certainly true
# [18:14] <annevk> (kinda the same reason we want to have multiple browsers :-))
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# [18:15] <Waldo> exactly
# [18:15] * mbrubeck reads http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2013/10/22/enabling-new-interoperable-panning-experiences-through-the-css-scrolling-snap-points-specification.aspx and predicts eventually we'll end up with a Worker API for async scrolling
# [18:15] <smontagu> but for stuff we don't currently have implemented we don't really have the resources to write our own implementations
# [18:15] <Waldo> so the question is, are we willing to pay that cost for that diversity?
# [18:15] <smontagu> international collation for example
# [18:15] <Waldo> and also, if I remember previous comments, we forked ICU code anyway
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# [18:15] <Waldo> at least for some things
# [18:15] <Waldo> so in some places at least, this isn't a change in diversity
# [18:16] <Waldo> new avenues of use would be different, of course
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# [18:16] <smontagu> that's true
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# [18:16] <smontagu> but not for much stuff
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# [18:17] <annevk> diversity in i18n seems bottom out to Microsoft vs ICU, with an exception at the moment for IDNA, encodings, bidi, ...?
# [18:17] <Waldo> smontagu: do we know what other browsers use to do these algos? ICU, except if it's Microsoft acting? or are we speculating about ICU prevalence in new uses we might contemplate
# [18:19] <smontagu> chrome uses ICU as far as I know, not sure about non-chrome webkit
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# [18:20] <smontagu> http://site.icu-project.org/ says that "Safari for Windows" uses ICU
# [18:20] <Waldo> welp, that's helpful
# [18:20] <smontagu> and also Mac OSX (OS & applications)
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# [18:22] <Waldo> ...yeah, I'm kind of inclined to say the cost of not using ICU for this is gonna be a lot higher than using ICU and suffering the monoculture hit to the web, even as it leaves a funny taste in the mouth
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# [18:22] <Pike> also, there's ICU and then there's CLDR, which is actually a lot of the data that ICU exposes
# [18:23] <Waldo> also compared to the opportunity costs for us of the resources to do non-ICU
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# [18:23] <Waldo> CLDR as pure data (?) is definitely a good thing
# [18:23] <Waldo> (at least my understanding is it's pure data, or at least non-code algorithms)
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# [18:24] <smontagu> we have ICU in the tree in the first place since cldr was "something ICU does and we aren't about to implement"
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# [18:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ae5d58532ad - Joel Maher - Bug 928370 - update talos on m-c to latest version. r=Callek
# [18:30] <@ehsan> smontagu: did Eric Sidel reach out to you?
# [18:30] <jmaher> jimm: ping
# [18:30] <@ehsan> smontagu: he had questions about our plans to use ICU
# [18:30] <jimm> jmaher: pong
# [18:30] <@ehsan> seems like chromium is considering the same thing
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# [18:31] <@ehsan> smontagu: Eric wanted to use ICU's UBA in chromium
# [18:31] <jmaher> jimm: I was looking into talos a bit more and how you integrated metro mode; I can't figure out how the pageloader.xul is ever launched: http://hg.mozilla.org/build/talos/file/58bd513cc54e/talos/pageloader/components/tp-cmdline.js#l122
# [18:32] <@ehsan> smontagu: hehe, he's here! eseidel: hey! ^
# [18:32] <Ms2ger> ehsan, (Seidel?)
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# [18:32] <@ehsan> yes my bad
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# [18:34] <jimm> jmaher: args.pageloadURL
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# [18:34] <jimm> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/metro/base/content/browser.js#139
# [18:34] <jmaher> jimm: who uses that? I couldn't find it in talos or dxr
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# [18:35] <jmaher> jimm: ok, got it; my dxr skills are not up to par
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# [18:35] <jimm> cool
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# [18:39] <annevk> Waldo: is the CLDR lookup really fast? even with such large tables?
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# [18:40] <annevk> Waldo: seems kinda weird for JavaScript to do synchronous lookups in tables that are multiple megabytes
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# [18:42] <jcranmer> I just want to throw out that mailnews does not want to switch to ICU for charset *encoding* at the moment
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# [18:43] <jcranmer> (ICU doesn't appear to implement return-to-ASCII for page-switching charsets, which is needed for RFC 2047)
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# [18:46] <myk> bdahl: which is the sleep call you think we might be able to reduce but not eliminate?
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# [18:47] <bdahl> myk: https://github.com/mozilla/libadb.js/blob/master/android-tools/adb-bin/usb_windows.cpp#L449
# [18:48] <myk> bdahl: ah, right
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# [18:48] <myk> bdahl: thanks!
# [18:49] <bdahl> myk: even with it gone i still only see around 150KB/s
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# [18:49] <bdahl> on osx i get around 190
# [18:49] <myk> bdahl: hmm; is that comparable to classic adb?
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# [18:50] <bdahl> myk: i need to test more to check speed
# [18:51] <bdahl> myk: that sleep is in millis, but there is a microsecond sleep available too
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# [18:54] <myk> bdahl: i'll test and report back! i also see that one can pass 0 (zero) to the function to sleep only if another thread is ready to run <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms686298%28v=vs.85%29.aspx>
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# [18:57] <gregglind> how owns the github/mozilla? And is there a way to make private repos there?
# [18:57] <gregglind> *who owns
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# [19:07] <nrc> how do I run crashtests/reftests with special powers via the .exe (i.e., not using mach)?
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# [19:07] <nrc> I get JS error 'SpecialPowers is not defined'
# [19:08] <nrc> using firefox.exe -reftest
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# [19:09] <ted> you don't
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# [19:09] <ted> i mean, you could, but it's probably complicated and we don't have steps to do so
# [19:10] <KWierso> edmorley: I suspect bug 602787
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# [19:10] <ted> hrmph
# [19:10] <ted> this firefox is hung on shutdown
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# [19:11] <edmorley> KWierso: grr I can't get the URL to work in the status message, single quotes don't work either
# [19:11] <KWierso> edmorley: the failure is in text selection, that bug mentions textrange
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# [19:13] <mbrubeck> nrc: The way runreftest.py does it is by creating a profile with a specialpowers add-on: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/177bf37a49f5/layout/tools/reftest/runreftest.py#l47
# [19:13] <edmorley> KWierso: let's go for it. can you back out?
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# [19:13] <KWierso> edmorley: sure
# [19:13] <edmorley> KWierso: ty (about to head back from the office)
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# [19:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c5efc154d58 - Wes Kocher - Backed out 9 changesets (bug 602787) on suspicion of breaking mochitest-metro on a CLOSED TREE
# [19:16] <KWierso> edmorley: done (I can take over sheriffduty :) )
# [19:16] <edmorley> KWierso: great :-)
# [19:16] <edmorley> KWierso: catch you later/tomorrow :-)
# [19:16] <KWierso> I'm off until monday :)
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# [19:16] <edmorley> ah indeed
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# [19:18] <Ms2ger> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/ProdNG_0.pdf is pretty interesting
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# [19:20] <Gijs> Can I close the only browser open in a browser mochitest on OS X, and reopen it, and have things Just Work, or is mochitest-browser going to be very sad?
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# [19:21] <Ms2ger> Sounds like it would make it sad
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# [19:21] <Gijs> that in turn makes me sad. :(
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# [19:26] <ted> Gijs: i suspect that's not going to work
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# [19:27] <Gijs> ted: is there something I could be using that does let me close the last window on OS X?
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# [19:29] <@gavin> fixing the harness to support that might not be too hard
# [19:29] <ted> i would guess it's more likely that you'll confuse the harness than anything
# [19:29] <ted> but yeah what gavin said
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# [19:29] <@gavin> though maybe you want to use marionnete instead or something
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# [19:30] <ted> i kind of wish we had marionette integrated into the mochitest harness
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# [19:38] <damons> This OCSP problem has made Fx 25 beta unusable, IMO. Too many sites will not load properly. Switching back to release channel.
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# [19:46] <alice0775> The OCSP related problem, Bug 929068 Tumblr, Bug 929524 twitter.
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# [19:46] <Ms2ger> And while you're here, alice0775, thanks for all your work!
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# [19:47] <Archaeopteryx> Ms2ger++ alice0775++
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# [19:50] <myk> bdahl: pushing a large app to device takes 3-5s on mac, 9-12s on windows with adb and sleepless libadb, and over a minute on windows with sleepy libadb
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# [19:51] <myk> bdahl: so libadb's performance is equivalent, if it doesn't sleep
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# [19:53] <bdahl> myk: k, i'm thinking we sleep(0) for a certain number of ticks and then back off if we haven't had message in awhile
# [19:53] <abr> Who would be a good candidate for reviewing the html and js portions of a new about: panel?
# [19:53] <myk> bdahl: that seems reasonable
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# [19:55] <jesup> gavin/dolske: ^ abr's question
# [19:55] <nrc> mbrubeck: great, thank you!
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# [19:57] <abr> gavin: Thanks!
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# [20:13] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: because RyanVM is away, so we aren't setting clobbers three or four times a day
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# [20:14] <philor> dom/camera/ will be because of it having last built before one of your backouts yesterday, and not clobbered since
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# [20:15] <froydnj> KWierso|sheriffduty: there's usually little bottles in the mini-fridge
# [20:15] <froydnj> KWierso|sheriffduty: or do you need a lot more than that? :)
# [20:15] <KWierso|sheriffduty> froydnj: fridge was empty, freezer portion was completely frozen over :|
# [20:16] <froydnj> doh
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# [20:23] <philor> froydnj: try? settle deeper, we're at 4 hours now, so if you're not near the front of the line, it'll probably be more like 6-8 hours before you get to the front
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# [20:30] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: uh oh, time for the metro-chrome hunt to go deeper :(
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# [20:30] <KWierso|sheriffduty> oh?
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# [20:31] <froydnj> philor: lovely
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# [20:32] <cabanier> can anyone tell me how I can turn off font anti-aliasing in a reftest?
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# [20:33] <froydnj> only 600ish pending jobs on try, that's really not that bad
# [20:33] <froydnj> maybe several hundred of those are osx tests, though
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# [20:35] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: eh?
# [20:35] <dholbert> take one down, pass it around, 599ish pending jobs on try
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# [20:36] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: the one on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&showall=1&rev=6bedc0859755 is below the thing you backed out for it, no?
# [20:36] <Ms2ger> dholbert, take one down, pass it around, 620ish pending jobs on try
# [20:36] <dholbert> Ms2ger, :)
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# [20:36] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: ugh
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# [20:36] <philor> froydnj: single pool of test slaves, so you can't just count pending on try, you have to count pending on every other branch, almost all of which will happen before yours does
# [20:36] <philor> everything except twigs
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# [20:37] <philor> on the plus side, inbound's going to be closed for quite a while, that'll help you out
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# [20:38] <ekr> New clang is sad: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3313432
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# [20:38] <ekr> Anyone know whether we or clang are right here?
# [20:38] <froydnj> ekr: there's a bug open on that somewhere...
# [20:38] <ekr> froydnj: a bug on firefox or a bug on clang?
# [20:39] <froydnj> ekr: bug 928808
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# [20:40] <ekr> Ah. I'm glad we have consensus on the fix
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# [20:41] <froydnj> consensus++
# [20:41] <ekr> (that was sarcasm)
# [20:41] <Ms2ger> designbycommittee++
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# [20:41] <ekr> Honestly, I don't care what we do, I just want the code to compile
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# [20:42] <@ehsan> ekr: try getting rid of the MOZALLOC_INLINEs
# [20:43] <ekr> ehsan: I think we need to also move the defns, right? Otherwise we will violate ODR?
# [20:43] <froydnj> ekr: I figured :)
# [20:43] <ekr> I guess we can change them to static
# [20:43] <@ehsan> ekr: why would we violate ODR?
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# [20:43] <@ehsan> the definitions should all be the same, right?
# [20:43] <ekr> ehsan: my impression was that C++ was not smart about that
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# [20:44] <@ehsan> ekr: it is
# [20:44] <ekr> OK
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# [20:44] <@ehsan> no code on the planet would compile without that ;)
# [20:44] <@ehsan> (all inline methods would be affected)
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# [20:44] <ekr> ehsan: My understanding is that methods are different
# [20:45] <@ehsan> ekr: nope
# [20:45] <@ehsan> ekr: in fact we had a bug recently where the linker was picking up the wrong version of a function relying on ODR
# [20:45] <@ehsan> the linker was right :(
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# [20:47] <ekr> OK then
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# [20:51] <mjh563> hi, I have a patch ready for check-in, but it's got the wrong reviewer name in the commit msg
# [20:52] <mjh563> if I mention that in a bug comment, will whoever lands the patch notice and fix it?
# [20:52] <mjh563> or should I attach a new patch with the correct name?
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# [20:53] <Yoric> mjh563: It would be better if you attached a new patch with the correct name.
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# [21:00] <@ehsan> ekr: can you please try https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=820495
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# [21:01] <ekr> ehsan: I have a homegrown version of that. LM kill the compile and I will try the patch directly
# [21:01] <@ehsan> ekr: thank you
# [21:02] <froydnj> mjh563: please attach a new patch with the correct name
# [21:02] <ekr> ehsan: running now. Will report back
# [21:03] <@ehsan> ekr: appreciated
# [21:03] <ekr> ehsan: no, thank you for your help
# [21:04] <ekr> ehsan: or rather, just thanks :)
# [21:04] <@ehsan> hehe, I'll take that :)
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# [21:19] <philor> gets you a much nicer Windows builder pool, too
# [21:19] <froydnj> wait, the windows builder pools are different?
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# [21:20] <philor> yeah, see the .platform thread about rev2, or GPO, whatever made it into the summary
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# [21:20] <froydnj> o.O
# [21:20] <philor> I suspect that making one third of our inbounds use the experimental pool was an accident, but it worked
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# [21:23] <ekr> ehsan: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3313642
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# [21:24] <rillian> dholbert: how do I do if '(a or b) and !c' in sh? :)
# [21:24] <dholbert> rillian, I wouldn't trust me on that; my shell script logic-coding is infrequent and hacky
# [21:25] <Ms2ger> rillian, uh, spawn python?
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# [21:25] <dholbert> rillian, looks like maybe (?) you can use backslashed parenthesis
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# [21:26] <dholbert> rillian, (according to "man test")
# [21:26] <rillian> Ms2ger: in a configure script? I'd have to wrap it in M4 first!
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# [21:26] <rillian> dholbert: short circuit works the other way, right?
# [21:27] <Ms2ger> rillian, er, rewrite configure in python first? :)
# [21:27] <rillian> if test -z $c -a -n $a -o -n $b
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# [21:27] <dholbert> ogod
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# [21:27] <ekr> ehsan: it didn't work
# [21:28] <ekr> ehsan: ^^
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# [21:28] <dholbert> rillian, that may work., though parens may make it more readible
# [21:28] <dholbert> readable
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# [21:31] <jimm> thx
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# [21:31] <mbrubeck> rillian: [ -n "$a" ] || [ -n "$b" ] && [ -z "$c" ]
# [21:32] <ted> "stop what you're doing and think hard about your life"
# [21:33] <Gijs> does mxr have word boundary regex things?
# [21:33] <philor> in theory, or in practice?
# [21:33] <philor> in practice, I find it works better to put them in that "limit results to pattern" field
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# [21:35] <philor> Gijs: I think so, I have to relearn it every time I do it
# [21:35] <froydnj> any more ideas on what caused the metro-mochitest bustage?
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# [21:35] <Gijs> I wish I wasn't using addons-mxr to test
# [21:35] <Gijs> (well, not really to test - that's where I need to run stuff)
# [21:36] <philor> there's a delightful man chase where glimpse claims to use, um, egrep syntax, and man egrep says "we use agrep syntax" or something like that
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# [21:37] <Gijs> So if MXR says "searching..." but there's no more spinner on my tab, has it failed?
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# [21:37] <philor> and the output limit thing should be exactly what regex search does, search for the non-regex then limit by the regex, but regex only works when it wants to, which isn't often
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# [21:37] <philor> probably
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# [21:43] <Ms2ger> philor, clearly you should star everything with "first time, probably a fluke" and "same damn thing"
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# [21:44] <philor> yeah, once upon a time we actually did a lot of those "first time" stars, as though it made sense and as though we actually remembered
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# [21:45] <philor> back when I used the number of different bmo searches for a test filename as an indication that it was time to file something :)
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# [21:47] <dholbert> rillian, I think "s/you/most configurations/" might fix up your error-message text
# [21:48] <rillian> dholbert: "most configurations need MOZ_VORBIS" ?
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# [21:49] <dholbert> rillian, "...for WebM playback"
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# [21:50] <dholbert> rillian, or alternately, "on most configurations, MOZ_VORBIS is required for (and implied by) MOZ_WEBM"
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# [21:51] <rillian> dholbert: I just don't see how that's helpful, since there's no way to set MOZ_VORBIS from configure options
# [21:52] <dholbert> rillian, it's helpful because your previous line is talking about MOZ_VORBIS, and this ties that back to a configure option that enabled it (particularly the "implied by" part)
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# [21:52] <dholbert> rillian, I agree that the first line is unhelpful by itself, since (as you say) there's no way to directly control MOZ_VORBIS
# [21:53] <dholbert> (which is why I think the second line is worth it)
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# [21:54] <miketaylr> https://mobile.twitter.com/ZeeJab/status/392739229077610497
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# [21:58] <cpeterson> OS X 10.9 Mavericks is now available as a free upgrade in the Mac App Store. Has anyone had any major problems with Mavericks yet?
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# [22:03] <@ehsan> ekr: :(
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# [22:03] <@ehsan> ekr: sorry no further ideas :/
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# [22:06] <ekr> ehsan. I am going to refactor this to put the defn in the .cpp.
# [22:06] <ekr> If that works, I will post a patch
# [22:06] <@ehsan> ekr: thanks!
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# [22:54] <tbsaunde> bsmedberg: do you know if avg toolbar is on addons mxr?
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# [22:54] <@bsmedberg> almost certainly not
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# [22:57] <KWierso|sheriffduty> should probably just back it out and reopen
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# [22:57] <mbrubeck> That looks more suspicious to me; several metro tests are sensitive to CSS animation timings
# [22:58] <mbrubeck> ah, and it's touch related too.
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# [23:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b2cfe924652 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 87ee0a1865e4 (bug 914847)
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# [23:03] <KWierso|sheriffduty> inbound's open
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# [23:17] <ekr> ehsan: I posted a patch to bug 928808
# [23:17] <@ehsan> cool
# [23:17] <ekr> I do not claim it is ideal
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# [23:24] <ozten> If I want to use gdb to set a breakpoint in SignInToWebsite.jsm … how do I do that? I've read https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Debugging_Mozilla_with_gdb but don't know how to format the break command
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# [23:25] <mbrubeck1> ozten: I don't think you can use gdb to debug JS code
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# [23:26] <ozten> mbrubeck1: Should I figure out how to use the dev tools debugger in chrome mode?
# [23:26] <Gijs> ozten: you can! :)
# [23:26] <mbrubeck1> ozten: yes
# [23:26] <Gijs> ozten: for now, see http://www.gijsk.com/blog/2013/09/debugging-chrome-js-and-mochitests/
# [23:27] <ozten> Gijs: thanks
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# [23:27] <Gijs> ozten: my blogpost is slightly out of date, and you no longer need to restart or open a new window, assuming you're on a recent nightly
# [23:28] <Gijs> ozten: also, there's currently a fix on fx-team that adds a --jsdebugger commandline argument, and another patch waiting for review to have such an argument when you're running automated tests. :)
# [23:28] <ozten> I guess I'm in kind of a pickle… was trying to see how a Fx from 1 year ago worked
# [23:28] <ozten> the debugger back then might not be able to do this
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# [23:29] <ozten> thanks for the info, I'll definately learn how to use it for nightly
# [23:29] <Gijs> ozten: ehm... yeah, I'm not sure how that'd work.
# [23:29] <ozten> and will use dump for the old build
# [23:29] <Gijs> ozten: why are you using such an old copy of Firefox, out of interest?
# [23:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2131ecb804a8 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 585011 - Move cl.py to mozbuild; r=ted
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# [23:32] <ozten> Gijs: I'm trying to bring some code back that was removed
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# [23:32] <ozten> it has bitrotted away
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# [23:34] <NeilAway> WeirdAl: moz.build
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# [23:48] <jwatt> where does the repo for Australis development live?
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# [23:50] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jwatt: http://hg.mozilla.org/projects/ux/ ?
# [23:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b011488de9e6 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 929364 - Avoid changing the current transform between emitting the path and clipping using that path in the SVGAutoRenderState::CLIP case. r=heycam
# [23:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/39f4bb8c55d8 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 929001 - Stop SVGEllipseElement from changing the current matrix between emittion and drawing of its path. r=dholbert
# [23:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a8680e083efa - Jonathan Watt - Bug 929441 - Stop unnecessarily setting a transform between emitting a path and stroking it. r=Bas
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# [23:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/06c3ed54ed62 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 859339 - blur reftests that don't need focus; r=dbaron
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# [23:53] <jwatt> KWierso|sheriffduty: thanks
# [23:53] <KWierso|sheriffduty> yep :)
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