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  22. # [00:04] <KWierso|sheriffduty> thor's out, sorry dude
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  24. # [00:04] <AutomatedTester> mbrubeck1: hey, has pointer events landed in gecko yet?
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  51. # [00:16] <keeler> KWierso_: ping
  52. # [00:16] <keeler> (or any other sheriffs)
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  54. # [00:16] <KWierso|sheriffduty> keeler: pong
  55. # [00:17] <keeler> KWierso|sheriffduty: I've been told to land the patch in bug 929068 on mozilla-release and mozilla-beta: would you be able to help me with that?
  56. # [00:17] <@smaug> AutomatedTester: no
  57. # [00:18] <KWierso|sheriffduty> bnicholson: ping
  58. # [00:18] <AutomatedTester> smaug: didnt think so, is there an ETA on it?
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  60. # [00:18] <@smaug> need to get touch-action working
  61. # [00:18] <AutomatedTester> smaug: is there a bug I can watch about this?
  62. # [00:18] <@smaug> and that work seems to take some time
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  65. # [00:18] <@smaug> AutomatedTester: there is a bug about touch-action
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  67. # [00:19] <AutomatedTester> do you know the #?
  68. # [00:19] <bnicholson> KWierso|sheriffduty: argh. thanks. i'll do a backout
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  70. # [00:19] <@smaug> 795567
  71. # [00:19] <AutomatedTester> smaug: thanks!
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  73. # [00:19] <@smaug> AutomatedTester: not all info is perhaps there
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  76. # [00:20] <AutomatedTester> smaug: I think for my needs it should be fine
  77. # [00:20] <KWierso|sheriffduty> keeler: needs to land on inbound first and get approval-beta requested, no?
  78. # [00:20] <KWierso|sheriffduty> bnicholson: thanks :)
  79. # [00:21] <keeler> KWierso|sheriffduty: given akeybl's comment? (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=929068#c4 )
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  82. # [00:23] <KWierso|sheriffduty> keeler: I have neither of those trees cloned at the moment, and ryan's out for the rest of the week... Think it'd be just as quick for you to clone and land yourself :(
  83. # [00:23] <KWierso|sheriffduty> unless you can wait around for edmorley or tomcat and see if they can
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  85. # [00:24] <keeler> KWierso|sheriffduty: ok - I'm just concerned about which head I need to be on - tip?
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  87. # [00:24] <KWierso|sheriffduty> keeler: I believe so
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  90. # [00:25] <keeler> KWierso|sheriffduty: ok - thank you
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  93. # [00:25] <KWierso|sheriffduty> yep :)
  94. # [00:26] <@ehsan> froydnj: \o/
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  96. # [00:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7cc3e16e4af1 - Steve Fink - Bug 861925 - Add an optional parameter to the shell serialize() function for specifying Transferables, r=jorendorff
  97. # [00:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dbc5f50a2a8d - Steve Fink - Bug 861925 - Do-nothing refactoring to make the following patch cleaner, r=luke
  98. # [00:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/988382ff109c - Steve Fink - Bug 861925 - Always report an error when transfering non-Transferrables, r=luke
  99. # [00:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b12f63beba2c - Steve Fink - Bug 861925 - Steal and neuter ArrayBuffers at end of structured clone, r=jorendorff
  100. # [00:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0efef923cc17 - Steve Fink - Bug 861925 - Allow grabbing data from ArrayBuffers and neutering them independently (in addition to Steal, which does both at the same time). r=Waldo
  101. # [00:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b87bbbb0c612 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 842081 - Workers: Transferable Objects should work if they are TypedArrays, r=sfink
  102. # [00:28] <froydnj> ehsan: let's hope it sticks. just need to bug ted to review the parallel reftests patch, and we're gtg
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  104. # [00:28] <@ehsan> froydnj: great job on this project :)
  105. # [00:29] <@ehsan> froydnj: and yes, I do owe you a beer, in case you were wondering
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  107. # [00:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ae2c9c00d149 - David Keeler - bug 929068 - pref-off OCSP stapling due to site failures on a CLOSED TREE r=cviecco a=akeybl
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  116. # [00:37] <froydnj> ehsan: thanks!
  117. # [00:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa13474d7b16 - Steve Fink - Bug 929151 - Disable GGC when object metadata is used, r=terrence
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  123. # [00:40] <ted> froydnj: oh, cool, you're unblocked on that?
  124. # [00:40] <ted> i thought i had already reviewed that patch?
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  126. # [00:42] <froydnj> ted: I think there are only minor adjustments to be made to the reviewed patch before it's ready to go
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  128. # [00:42] <froydnj> need to verify the patch in my tree has those adjustments, and then submit for review
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  130. # [00:42] <ted> gotcha
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  142. # [00:45] <@njn> every time I run the memory reporter mochitests, I can't quite believe they actually work
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  145. # [00:46] <lightsofapollo> harth: ping
  146. # [00:46] <harth> lightsofapollo: pong
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  149. # [00:47] <lightsofapollo> harth: hey! I have a gigantic patch for you for bz ( I am also in SF today if you have any questions)
  150. # [00:47] <harth> lightsofapollo: okay I'll take a look
  151. # [00:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e199bf0b3257 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 917750 - mirror several mozbase packages, r=ahal
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  167. # [00:54] <NeilAway> I think annevk and bz were talking about URL objects recently, anyone know where the spec for them lives?
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  170. # [00:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67e2829b7706 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 920849 - Part 1: Write metadata for every test file; r=ted
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  179. # [00:59] <lightsofapollo> harth: ah sorry here is the pull request for reference: https://github.com/harthur/bz.js/pull/16
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  184. # [01:02] <pcwalton> what does [sg:nse] mean?
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  191. # [01:05] <@khuey> pcwalton: things that aren't security issues
  192. # [01:05] <@khuey> but are private for other reasons
  193. # [01:05] <pcwalton> ok
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  234. # [01:33] <dmajor> great, VS2013 generates math code that gives different answers for repeated calls with the same input :\
  235. # [01:33] <@khuey> sounds like a fun compiler
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  238. # [01:34] <dmajor> being predictable is boring!
  239. # [01:34] <mbrubeck1> mstange just scored another nice round of Talos improvements
  240. # [01:34] <mbrubeck1> dmajor: We call that dysfunctional programming
  241. # [01:34] <Mook_as> is floating point involved?
  242. # [01:34] * geekboy is now known as geekboy|afk
  243. # [01:34] <dmajor> yes
  244. # [01:35] <mbrubeck1> uh oh
  245. # [01:35] * Mook_as thinks about how http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/e9b52ceh%28v=vs.120%29.aspx interacts with threads
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  247. # [01:36] <mbrubeck1> jmaher|afk's new talos revision just caused a 431,000,000,000% decrease (!) in Tp5 times
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  249. # [01:36] <mbrubeck1> The new average is -1381094166666.667 milliseconds
  250. # [01:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c9879b47c32c - Kyle Huey - Bug 915757: Split GetListenerManager into two functions for more const-correctness. r=smaug
  251. # [01:37] <mbrubeck1> We actually paint pages 43.8 years before you request them.
  252. # [01:37] <jesup_mac> Good, I was worried we'd breakt he -1381094166667 barrier!
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  254. # [01:37] <Mook_as> we'll _finally_ beat chrome at rendering speeds!
  255. # [01:37] <Callek|Buildduty> Mook_as: but can we beat Activestate KomodoIDE at rendering speeds?
  256. # [01:38] * Callek|Buildduty hopes so, since we're not burdened with pyXPCOM
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  258. # [01:38] <dmajor> remind me to request some lottery numbers 43.8 years + 5 seconds from now
  259. # [01:38] <Mook_as> Callek|Buildduty: yes; you can probably finish talos before komodo finishes startup :p
  260. # [01:39] * mbrubeck1 will back out the change
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  262. # [01:39] <Callek|Buildduty> Mook_as: in fairness Komodo startup is pretty good after a firstrun (imho)
  263. # [01:39] <Callek|Buildduty> and I don't mean cold-boot first run, I mean a first-install firstrun
  264. # [01:39] <Callek|Buildduty> :-)
  265. # [01:39] <Callek|Buildduty> (cold boot is still pretty decent)
  266. # [01:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/21d97baadc05 - Matt Brubeck - Back out 1ae5d58532ad (bug 928370) for breaking Tp5 measurement
  267. # [01:41] <mbrubeck1> KWierso_ philor and any other sheriffs: It'd be nice if we can make sure bug 928370 doesn't make it to any other branches (i.e. make sure that backout is included in the next inbound -> m-c merge).
  268. # [01:41] <Callek|Buildduty> mbrubeck1: don't blame the reviewer, whatever you do!
  269. # [01:42] <mbrubeck1> Callek|Buildduty: Not until I find the actual Talos patch that broke things, anyway. ;)
  270. # [01:42] <Callek|Buildduty> I mean the reviewer of Bug 928370
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  272. # [01:42] <mbrubeck1> yeah, I know.
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  279. # [01:48] <froydnj> mbrubeck1: that's calling predictive resource fetching!
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  282. # [01:49] <fabrice> smaug: ping
  283. # [01:49] <mbrubeck1> More accurately, we paint all your pages shortly after midnight UTC on January 1, 1970, no matter when you request them.
  284. # [01:50] <@smaug> fabrice: pong
  285. # [01:50] <tbsaunde> so now that we've figured out how to time travel pixels lets figure out how to apply that to humans
  286. # [01:50] <fabrice> smaug: any luck to take a look at 920804 ?
  287. # [01:51] <@smaug> it is unfortunately in my feedback list which I tend to process after review queue is empty...
  288. # [01:51] <@smaug> sorry
  289. # [01:51] <@smaug> I'll try to look at it tomorrow
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  294. # [01:52] <fabrice> smaug: ha, I will ask for review-even-if-I-know-this-doesnt-work then :P
  295. # [01:53] <@smaug> that would work better, indeed :)
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  298. # [01:54] <fabrice> so long for being honest
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  301. # [01:54] <tbsaunde> "please r- this but tell me what's wrong with it"
  302. # [01:54] <fabrice> exactly
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  304. # [01:55] <@smaug> fabrice: see, I did ask to add it to review queue http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=mozilla%23developers&s=7+Oct+2013&e=9+Oct+2013#c779534
  305. # [01:55] <fabrice> smaug: I felt it was not right to ask for r? since I know it's not ready yet. But let me change that
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  322. # [02:06] <@smaug> fabrice: oh, could you try using nsClassHashtable
  323. # [02:07] <fabrice> smaug: sure
  324. # [02:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b72c1a37bd6 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 929494 - use template typedefs, not inheritance, to define nsTArray element copiers; r=ehsan
  325. # [02:08] <@smaug> oh, but it shouldn't really matter
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  329. # [02:09] <@smaug> fabrice: nm
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  339. # [02:15] <@smaug> fabrice: really really odd
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  343. # [02:16] <@smaug> fabrice: you're leaking all the listeners, but that should affect to those oranges
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  345. # [02:17] <@smaug> fabrice: hmm, unless we're ooming
  346. # [02:17] <@smaug> s/all/many/
  347. # [02:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8fb39b8fb2a7 - David Keeler - Backed out changeset ae2c9c00d149
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  419. # [03:06] <@njn> ah, this was in about:memory, and I apparently need to use "about:memory#foo" instead of "#foo" for the href
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  483. # [03:45] <glandium> njn: this suggests a problem with AboutProtocolHandler::NewURI
  484. # [03:46] <glandium> although i'm not sure NewURI is used for anchor links
  485. # [03:46] <@njn> glandium: I'm happy with my workaround :)
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  522. # [04:10] <@khuey> so did we back out hte talos update for breaking everything?
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  525. # [04:13] <@khuey> oh good, mbrubeck did
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  540. # [04:25] <@njn> I just landed a patch which had r+ from five different people. That's what I get for finishing a multi-component patch when bz is on PTO.
  541. # [04:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d2444eecf83 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 918207 - Support per-tab memory profiling. r=billm,mccr8,till,smaug,nfroyd.
  542. # [04:25] <@khuey> heh
  543. # [04:25] <@khuey> how long did it take to collect those reviews?
  544. # [04:26] <@njn> khuey: just under 8 days
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  547. # [04:27] <@njn> khuey: I wasn't in a rush, because Panos is still some distance from finishing his patches to expose the data in devtools
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  561. # [04:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a82f8dbb719 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 927245 - Preliminary work to enable preffing off the deprecated Audio Data API implementation. r=ehsan
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  566. # [04:37] <@khuey> froydnj: are you awake?
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  569. # [04:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/270f7e1b1cf2 - Geoff Brown - Bug 927476 - Remove extra pref quoting in runtestsremote.py; r=jmaher
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  574. # [04:43] <philor> and that's after being closed for several hours
  575. # [04:44] <@khuey> so speaking of the tree
  576. # [04:44] <@khuey> do we still give awards for all green pushes?
  577. # [04:45] <philor> I think dolske might have closed the bug
  578. # [04:45] * @khuey is two jobs away
  579. # [04:45] <@khuey> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=c9879b47c32c
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  581. # [04:46] <philor> you've got asan browser-chrome orange
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  583. # [04:46] <philor> no points for coalescing away your orange
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  586. # [04:46] <@khuey> waht
  587. # [04:47] <philor> https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/mozilla-inbound/rev/c9879b47c32c
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  589. # [04:47] <philor> otherwise all it would take to get an all-green would be to push seconds before someone else
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  591. # [04:47] <@khuey> if I don't see it it doesn't count ;-)
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  593. # [04:48] <philor> I see it plain as day, two pushes up, today's fifty thousandth instance of bug 922427
  594. # [04:50] <philor> nice, every single one of your asan tests was coalesced away, I wonder whether they fail to trigger the spin_up_more_aws_slaves.py script
  595. # [04:50] <@khuey> victory!
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  648. # [05:37] <philor> stupid universal builds
  649. # [05:37] <philor> is that needs-clobber?
  650. # [05:37] <philor> and from whom?
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  652. # [05:39] <philor> njn: but even if that isn't you, you've got some WinXP Moth bustage
  653. # [05:39] <@njn> philor: looking
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  656. # [05:40] <@njn> philor: I'd guess clobber; I did a try run (https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=ca5fae3c8c42) and it built fine on all platforms
  657. # [05:40] <philor> no clue about the Mac opt builds... the merge, bringing over some devtools need for a clobber from fx-team?
  658. # [05:41] <philor> I'd guess we should just drop the whole idea of dep builds
  659. # [05:41] <@njn> philor: my try run was against m-c
  660. # [05:42] <@njn> philor: I have no idea what stage-package is or how I could have affected it
  661. # [05:42] <philor> njn: that's the part where the two halves of the Mac universal build get glued together
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  663. # [05:43] <@njn> weird
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  666. # [05:44] <philor> oh, you changed an .idl? well, yeah, of course that would call for a clobber on Windows :|
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  672. # [05:51] <@njn> philor: doesn't really explain the Mac bustage...
  673. # [05:51] <@njn> unless it does, of course :/
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  676. # [05:52] <philor> coincidences tend to collect around the first push after the part of the day when we push like rabbits
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  678. # [05:53] <philor> things settle down, we actually run all the tests, slaves have a chance to do dep builds instead of racing around from tree to tree
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  761. # [07:19] <glob> anyone want to play "guess when slashdot linked to bugzilla" ? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16292140/bmo-slashdot.png
  762. # [07:19] <glob> prize money is $0. bonus of $0 for guessing which bug
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  764. # [07:20] <stuart> is slashdot still a thing?
  765. # [07:21] <glob> well played
  766. # [07:22] <@khuey> glob: I thought we blocked you from commenting if you came in with a slashdot referrer
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  768. # [07:22] <@khuey> oh
  769. # [07:22] <@khuey> that's just a graph of pageviews
  770. # [07:22] * @khuey thought it was going to be trolling
  771. # [07:23] <glob> khuey, many moons ago we blocked show_bug completely for /. referrers
  772. # [07:24] <glob> mostly because it killed bugzilla. IT have put serious work into the bugzilla infra so we don't have to worry about that anymore
  773. # [07:24] <@khuey> ah
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  775. # [07:24] <squib> glob: just redirect slashdot referers to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCSwRM1qiXU :D
  776. # [07:25] <@njn> everyone knows Firefox jumped the shark ages ago
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  778. # [07:27] <@njn> they're just feeding the dregs to the wolves now, flapping in the breeze with their pants on fire
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  787. # [07:34] <firebot> Check-in:
  788. # [07:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d86e7b45208 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 929791 - Fix invalid JSON generation when dumping memory reports to file after viewing about:memory in the presence of child processes. r=mccr8.
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  862. # [08:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f87879d36aef - Daniel Holbert - Bug 929466: Cast '0' + known-small-uint32_t to type "char" in comparison within mar.c, to fix sign-compare build warning. r=bbondy
  863. # [08:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b5e4b85bf1e - Daniel Holbert - Bug 929430 part 2: Wrap OggReader.cpp's opus-specific variables and their usages in #ifdef MOZ_OPUS. r=rillian
  864. # [08:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a2fa71f2657 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 929404: Mark unused-depending-on-build-config function as 'inline' instead of 'static'. r=derf
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  870. # [08:32] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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  888. # [08:46] <capella> ms2ger: got time for a quick question? I pushed to fx-team earlier today https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Fx-Team&rev=d25a408a3efb
  889. # [08:46] <capella> but I can't find the build logs associated with the entry ... do you see what I'm not?
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  892. # [08:48] <Ms2ger> capella, https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/fx-team/rev/d25a408a3efb says only some android builds happened
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  895. # [08:49] <Ms2ger> capella, probably everything coalesced with the merge right after you
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  899. # [08:51] <capella> mmm ... ok, I remember this happened once before a while back and I was all confused over that also
  900. # [08:51] <capella> So is there any way to find who it coalesced with? see the results of the test runs associated with the builds? Or don't I need to worry so much as it turned out before
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  902. # [08:52] <Ms2ger> The next push that did get results :)
  903. # [08:52] <capella> Oh - duh
  904. # [08:52] * capella remembers now :p
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  906. # [08:54] <Ms2ger> (Isn't it late over there? ;))
  907. # [08:55] <capella> So my push and the next one came within 1.5 mins and got merged together - cool - late here EST for most people, I keep odd hours ... sleep during the day most of the time :D
  908. # [08:55] <efaust> "engineer time"
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  910. # [08:56] <capella> I call it "gerbil" hours ... when I get tired I fall over and go to sleep XD
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  971. # [09:28] <glandium> woohoo double typhoon http://az416740.vo.msecnd.net/static-images/typhoon/japan_wide/2013/10/23/japan_wide_2013-10-23-15-00-00-large.jpg
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  974. # [09:30] <@khuey> glandium: I didn't know that was a thing
  975. # [09:30] <glandium> khuey: me neither
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  978. # [09:32] <glandium> too many typhoons this year
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  980. # [09:33] <@khuey> I'm glad they're hitting you and not us :-P
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  992. # [09:39] <glandium> khuey: the jma has plenty of data on typhoons http://www.jma.go.jp/jma/jma-eng/jma-center/rsmc-hp-pub-eg/bstve_2013_m.html there are indeed more hitting japan than taiwan
  993. # [09:40] <glandium> interestingly, the japanese equivalent page has the latest typhoons, too (up to 26) ; that page stops at 18
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  997. # [09:42] <Ms2ger> Billions of bilious blue blistering barnacles in a thundering typhoon?
  998. # [09:42] <glandium> that's what he says in english?
  999. # [09:42] <Ms2ger> That's what the interwebs claims
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  1001. # [09:43] <Ms2ger> In The Seven Crystal Balls, at least
  1002. # [09:43] <glandium> the french equivalent is about gun ports
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  1006. # [09:44] <Mook> looks like typhoons # 19 ~ 26 are preliminary data?
  1007. # [09:44] <glandium> Mook: they are, but they could be available on the english page as they are on the japanese one
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  1009. # [09:45] <glandium> Ms2ger: ah, the french equivalent from the seven crystal balls is actually about thunder in Brest
  1010. # [09:46] <glandium> *and* gun ports
  1011. # [09:46] <glandium> "mille milliards de mille sabords de tonnerre de Brest"
  1012. # [09:46] <Mook> yeah, but that means re-doing the giant notice in the middle of the picture :p
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  1014. # [09:47] <glandium> Mook: the japanese site has also numerical data... in pdfs
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  1021. # [09:50] <Mook> glandium: ... which is duplicated on the English end in good old .txt ( http://www.jma.go.jp/jma/jma-eng/jma-center/rsmc-hp-pub-eg/Besttracks/bst2013.txt )
  1022. # [09:51] <gcp> khuey: armv6 tier1? Only in theory.
  1023. # [09:51] <gcp> khuey: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=923210
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  1027. # [09:52] <@khuey> gcp: well it's on tbpl
  1028. # [09:52] <@khuey> gcp: those I'm certainly not surprised it's a clusterfuck
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  1039. # [09:55] <glandium> Mook: mmmm i must have missed the links to those
  1040. # [09:55] <Mook> that's http://www.jma.go.jp/jma/jma-eng/jma-center/rsmc-hp-pub-eg/besttrack.html - couldn't find the japanese equivalent
  1041. # [09:55] <Mook> (probably because I can't actually _read_ japanese...)
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  1044. # [09:57] <edmorley> khuey: does your issue have a bug filed?
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  1046. # [09:58] <glandium> Mook: http://www.data.jma.go.jp/fcd/yoho/typhoon/position_table/table2013.html fwiw
  1047. # [09:58] <Mook> yeah, found that, I just meant the txt version :)
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  1049. # [09:59] <glandium> Mook: i don't think there is
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  1058. # [10:01] <@khuey> edmorley: my armv6 issue?
  1059. # [10:01] <edmorley> khuey: yup
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  1063. # [10:02] <@khuey> edmorley: well there's the bug I can't land because of the issue
  1064. # [10:02] <@khuey> but I don't have a separate bug for the test failure
  1065. # [10:02] <@khuey> should I file one?
  1066. # [10:02] <edmorley> ok, np :-)
  1067. # [10:02] <edmorley> khuey: I was just going to mark blocking bug 723946
  1068. # [10:03] <@khuey> ah
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  1088. # [10:18] <Fallen> glandium: ping
  1089. # [10:18] <glandium> Fallen: pong
  1090. # [10:18] <Fallen> re 927073, just commented. It seems Firefox ESR will have 24.1esr as the next intermediate version
  1091. # [10:18] <Fallen> as mentioned in bug 916215
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  1093. # [10:19] <Fallen> if you have a moment maybe we can discuss here so I can get this in asap
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  1095. # [10:20] <glandium> Fallen: well, depends why the change is being made. if the change is purely cosmetic, then ok, but if it means we don't guarantee binary compatibility, then that's not fine
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  1097. # [10:20] <glandium> so the question is really why are we changing the versioning scheme for esr
  1098. # [10:20] <glandium> and i don't have the answer
  1099. # [10:21] <Fallen> the latter would kind of defeat the purpose of the ESR, but I'll ask #releng
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  1104. # [10:23] <Fallen> glandium: bug 869568 suggests its only cosmetic to differ between planned and unplanned releases.
  1105. # [10:24] <NeilAway> glandium: I believe he says "ten thousand thundering typhoons" in the UK version
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  1109. # [10:24] <glandium> NeilAway: well, he has many variants
  1110. # [10:25] <glandium> Fallen: then ok to use xul24
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  1113. # [10:26] <glandium> Fallen: still need to distinguish nightly and aurora, though
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  1116. # [10:27] <Fallen> glandium: perfect, thats fine for me :)
  1117. # [10:27] <Fallen> thanks!
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  1126. # [10:32] <Fallen> glandium: so xul30a1 for nightly and xul29a2 for aurora?
  1127. # [10:32] <glandium> Fallen: yes
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  1129. # [10:32] <gaston> wait, already 30 ?
  1130. # [10:32] <Fallen> no, examples
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  1144. # [10:46] <till> khuey: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783190
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  1152. # [10:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b89258451b74 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 907463. Dealloc shmem on ActorDestroy. r=nical
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  1154. # [10:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8e1b8db80906 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 907463. Ignore result of very big canvas reftest. r=roc
  1155. # [10:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5dd7e6df483e - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 907463. Backout OP_SOURCE optimisation from bug 907926. r=mattwoodrow
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  1172. # [11:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5503a6548d3d - Mark Banner - Bug 920991 - Default stun server ip address should be changed to a domain name. r=abr
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  1181. # [11:11] <gaston> is the cdn having issues or http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/ is empty ?
  1182. # [11:12] <gaston> from a browser it looks empty
  1183. # [11:12] <gaston> but not via lftp
  1184. # [11:12] <glandium> gaston: wfm
  1185. # [11:12] <glandium> so it might be one of the servers
  1186. # [11:12] <gaston> maybe load balancing hitting a broken server ?
  1187. # [11:13] <Standard8> huh
  1188. # [11:13] <Standard8> my password manager has stopped filling web forms in :-(
  1189. # [11:13] <glandium> Standard8: there were still sites it worked for you?
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  1192. # [11:14] <Standard8> glandium: things that prompt an actual dialog seem to work still
  1193. # [11:14] <glandium> ah, yeah it works for mcMerge
  1194. # [11:14] <Standard8> glandium: is this a know issues then?
  1195. # [11:14] <glandium> Standard8: i don't know, but it works so badly for me that i'm not surprised to hear it doesn't work for you
  1196. # [11:15] <Standard8> well, the thing is, it did used to work
  1197. # [11:15] <glandium> although yeah, it works for http auth here
  1198. # [11:15] <Standard8> like yesterday or the day before
  1199. # [11:15] <glandium> (but i'm using aurora)
  1200. # [11:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2a3498171e8 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 927801 - Ensure test cases create call object to fix failures with GGC r=terrence
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  1206. # [11:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/645e0afbd37b - Hannes Verschore - Bug 890722: IonMonkey: The forgotten, always left out, ignored, neglected comment update, r=jandem
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  1208. # [11:21] <Standard8> nope completely busted, even going back to 24 release...
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  1219. # [11:24] <Standard8> huh
  1220. # [11:25] <Standard8> glandium: signon.rememberSignons was set to false
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  1222. # [11:25] <Standard8> no idea how that happened
  1223. # [11:25] <Standard8> I must have hit it by accident sometime
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  1227. # [11:31] <Yoric> I have added export CC=/opt/local/bin/clang-mp-3.3 to my .mozconfig (and same for CXX) but the configure still contains clang-mp-3.2. Am I doing something wrong?
  1228. # [11:32] <glandium> Yoric: does it say "(cached)" next to that?
  1229. # [11:33] <Yoric> checking for gcc... (cached) /opt/local/bin/clang-mp-3.2
  1230. # [11:33] <Yoric> So I guess yes.
  1231. # [11:33] <glandium> Yoric: remove config.cache
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  1233. # [11:33] <Yoric> Same result minus the "(cached)".
  1234. # [11:33] <glandium> Yoric: or just clobber ; since you're changing compiler, you'd want to do that anyways
  1235. # [11:34] <Yoric> I have clobbered already.
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  1238. # [11:37] <Yoric> glandium: ^
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  1241. # [11:37] <glandium> Yoric: makes no sense
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  1243. # [11:38] <Yoric> I'm running |./mach configure| to test my config, that should be correct, shouldn't it?
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  1247. # [11:39] <glandium> Yoric: there's no reason anything in the build system would pick /opt/local/bin/clang-mp-3.2
  1248. # [11:40] <glandium> so it has to be something on your machine
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  1259. # [11:44] <Yoric> glandium: Any idea what it could be?
  1260. # [11:44] <glandium> no
  1261. # [11:44] <Yoric> CXX doesn't seem to appear in the environment
  1262. # [11:45] <Yoric> My default version of clang is 3.3
  1263. # [11:45] <Yoric> Mmmh...
  1264. # [11:45] <Yoric> Unless that's the kind of weird stuff that requires restarting bash.
  1265. # [11:45] <Yoric> Nope, not better.
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  1267. # [11:46] <MihaiMorar> is here anyone who had worked with Wireshark?
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  1275. # [11:51] <seth> given an nsIDocument, how can i get to the pres shell/pres context?
  1276. # [11:51] <seth> i'm surprised that there doesn't appear to be a method on nsIDocument for this
  1277. # [11:52] <@khuey> well, so the first thing is that it might not have one
  1278. # [11:52] <@khuey> if it's e.g. a data document
  1279. # [11:52] <seth> sure, that makes sense
  1280. # [11:52] <seth> let's assume it has one, though
  1281. # [11:52] <@khuey> but http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/public/nsIDocument.h#548 presumably
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  1283. # [11:53] <seth> argh, "GetShell"
  1284. # [11:53] <seth> thanks
  1285. # [11:54] <@khuey> yeah
  1286. # [11:54] <@khuey> love our naming
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  1291. # [11:57] <Yoric> glandium: Got it. I had a MOZCONFIG in my env pointing to another .mozconfig.
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  1299. # [12:03] <kamathln> The core of mozilla is mostly written in c++ . Am I correct?
  1300. # [12:04] <@khuey> yes
  1301. # [12:04] <kamathln> if yes, is the idea behind enscripten and asm.js, to port mozilla to .. Javascript :p
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  1303. # [12:04] <kamathln> ?
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  1305. # [12:05] <gcp> no
  1306. # [12:05] <gcp> the core of mozilla powers asm.js, so that would be a chicken and egg problem
  1307. # [12:05] <@khuey> heh
  1308. # [12:05] <gcp> aside from that, large parts of firefox and thunderbird are already in javascript
  1309. # [12:06] <@khuey> there is interesting research in JITting everything
  1310. # [12:06] <@khuey> but htat's very much research
  1311. # [12:06] <gcp> JIT the JIT
  1312. # [12:06] <@khuey> (not in mozilla, but in other things)
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  1314. # [12:06] <kamathln> ah!
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  1320. # [12:10] <Yoric> kamathln: As mentioned by gcp, large parts of Firefox and TB are already in JS. Interestingly, we are moving a number of key components of the JavaScript VM to JavaScript, too.
  1321. # [12:10] <Ms2ger> Well, "key"
  1322. # [12:10] <Yoric> Not everything, of course.
  1323. # [12:11] <Yoric> But I have plans to move most of our ffi to JS.
  1324. # [12:11] <Yoric> (the js-ctypes one, not the xpconnect one)
  1325. # [12:11] <Ms2ger> That's not the js vm ;)
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  1327. # [12:12] <Yoric> We can debate where the vm starts and stops :)
  1328. # [12:13] <Yoric> But ok s/vm/environment/.
  1329. # [12:13] <Ms2ger> Fair enough
  1330. # [12:13] <kamathln> Yoric: .. and to think I was only joking! You guys rock!
  1331. # [12:13] <Yoric> :)
  1332. # [12:14] <@khuey> Yoric: what does that mean?
  1333. # [12:14] <@khuey> the ffi bit?
  1334. # [12:14] <Yoric> kamathln: If you want to contribute, don't hesitate to.
  1335. # [12:14] <Yoric> khuey: js-ctypes contains tons of C++ code that we should be able to rewrite in JS once we have TypedObjects.
  1336. # [12:14] <@khuey> I see
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  1338. # [12:14] * @khuey doesn't know what a TypedObject is ;-)
  1339. # [12:14] <Yoric> (we'll need to keep libffi and a few other things as intrinsics)
  1340. # [12:15] <Yoric> khuey: structs in JS
  1341. # [12:15] <Ms2ger> khuey, what used to be Binary Data
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  1357. # [12:24] <@khuey> Ms2ger: ah
  1358. # [12:24] <Ms2ger> "Ethernet is wifi on a coax cable"
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  1361. # [12:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/10e5f4a307a1 - Randell Jesup - Bug 864654: merge backend for send and receive VideoConduits to match AudioConduits & cleanup r=ekr
  1362. # [12:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fddf6d5ca308 - Randell Jesup - Bug 864654: cleanup AudioConduit r=ekr
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  1382. # [12:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/558a4c956738 - Daniel Schattenkirchner - Bug 921761 part 1 - margin-collapsing test suite, wave 7; improving tests by adding readable IDs, rearranging styles, changing colors; r=dholbert
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  1405. # [12:50] <capella> firebot: cookie
  1406. # [12:50] <capella> (and coffee please)
  1407. # [12:50] <firebot> You have many friends and very few living enemies.
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  1412. # [12:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24db71586336 - Dan Minor - Bug 929125 - Set shared library path in jit-test harness; r=terrence
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  1417. # [12:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9687708309c5 - Dan Minor - Bug 929659 - Add TestStartupCache to Android cppunittest manifest; r=ted
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  1419. # [13:00] <NeilAway> capella: if your enemy's enemy is your friend, what happens when you're your own worst enemy?
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  1423. # [13:02] <capella> :D I remember a line from Spaceballs where Smog says he's half man and half dog ... he's his own best friend
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  1494. # [13:54] <bholley> Yoric: ping
  1495. # [13:54] <Yoric> bholley: pong
  1496. # [13:54] <bholley> Yoric: what's the story for modules on workers? Do we have a mechanism to have some sort of JS-implemented thing with its own global that's usable from both workers and main-thread?
  1497. # [13:55] <Yoric> In workers, with or without modules, there's only one global atm.
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  1499. # [13:55] <bholley> oh, right
  1500. # [13:55] <bholley> peterv^
  1501. # [13:55] <bholley> peterv: that's going to be tricky
  1502. # [13:55] <bholley> peterv: because we're going to need to introduce multiple globals into the worker runtime
  1503. # [13:56] <bholley> Yoric: we're working on JS-implemented DOM APIs for workers
  1504. # [13:56] <Yoric> What's the scenario?
  1505. # [13:56] <Yoric> \o/
  1506. # [13:56] <peterv> bholley: right, that's what I thought
  1507. # [13:56] <Yoric> Bug 928893.
  1508. # [13:56] <Yoric> (ok, that was just a way to mention that I'm interested)
  1509. # [13:56] <peterv> Yoric: JS implemented WebIDL stuff
  1510. # [13:56] <Yoric> Ah, ok, that part of DOM.
  1511. # [13:56] <Yoric> \o/ anyway
  1512. # [13:57] <peterv> bug 928893 seems totally unrelated
  1513. # [13:57] <Yoric> Yeah, my bad.
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  1515. # [13:57] <peterv> (and pretty crazy)
  1516. # [13:58] <peterv> I don't really want us to have a second Node implementation on workers
  1517. # [13:58] <@smaug> ttaubert: do you happen to know why I lost reload button when I used australis and then got back to normal builds
  1518. # [13:59] <ttaubert> smaug: hm that's a good question, didn't happen to me when I went back but I did that weeks ago. I have no idea, sorry
  1519. # [13:59] <@smaug> there is one reload button in the toolbar customization thing, but if I put that to toolbar, it is never activated
  1520. # [13:59] <@smaug> ok
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  1522. # [14:01] <NeilAway> froydnj: 2% and you didn't even delete any code!
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  1535. # [14:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a00ba6f64d80 - Bobby Holley - Bug 928476 - Add telemetry to measure cross-global adopts. r=mrbkap,nfroyd
  1536. # [14:07] <marcoz> Hi there! Did anyone running OS X make the plunge yet to Mavericks and/or Xcode 5.0.x? Does it all break and should I wait, or is it safe to update if I'm building Firefox for Mac, Android and Firefox OS?
  1537. # [14:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> marcoz: i would wait :) at least some days
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  1539. # [14:10] <marcoz> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Heh, I wasn't planning to jump the gun right away. Merely curious.
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  1543. # [14:12] <jdm> could someone throw bug 684722 at the tryserver?
  1544. # [14:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d64bea16611b - Andrew McCreight - Bug 911333 - Only set customTrace to true on workers. r=khuey
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  1547. # [14:13] <mjrosenb> a'dgloasp5g nightly!
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  1550. # [14:14] <froydnj> NeilAway: I know!
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  1552. # [14:15] <jdm> nevermind, I'm pushing it
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  1554. # [14:16] <froydnj> khuey: re my blog: we get screwed by the typing requirements of C++, not by the goodness or badness of the compiler
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  1576. # [14:31] <@khuey> froydnj: but ICF makes the problem go away doesn't it?
  1577. # [14:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cacd16757698 - Marty Rosenberg - bug 879647: Don't throw process fatal assortions when we're about to abort the compilation. (r=jbramley)
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  1579. # [14:33] <froydnj> khuey: insofar as you don't have the duplicated functions, yes
  1580. # [14:33] <froydnj> khuey: but it looks like that change was in a pushrange that reduced pgo memory usage by 2%
  1581. # [14:34] <@khuey> yeah, that I believe
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  1583. # [14:34] <@khuey> still gotta load all that crap into memory
  1584. # [14:34] <froydnj> khuey: smaller objects, etc. there are benefits to not being sloppy
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  1607. # [14:49] <Gijs> Is there known windows build bustage linking various pieces of NSS?
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  1609. # [14:49] <Gijs> (locally)
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  1615. # [14:54] <Waldo> froydnj: do you happen to know offhand how much of libxul is js these days? some of the data structures JS uses haven't been template-optimized much, wondering if someone poking at them from that angle might shave off equivalent amounts
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  1625. # [14:58] <catlee> so there's this bug where when firefox starts up it replaces an open tab with the nightly start page
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  1632. # [14:59] <@gavin> catlee: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=928630
  1633. # [14:59] <catlee> ah ha
  1634. # [14:59] <catlee> it breaks restoring from a crash
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  1641. # [15:01] <graingert> I'm running firefox 24.0 and I have a "content-security-policy: default-src * 'unsafe-eval' 'unsafe-inline'; style-src * 'unsafe-inline'" header
  1642. # [15:01] <graingert> but inline CSS does not work
  1643. # [15:01] <catlee> ah, comment #16 mentions that already
  1644. # [15:01] <catlee> phew
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  1646. # [15:01] <froydnj> Waldo: I don't know offhand
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  1648. # [15:02] <Waldo> !summon ehsan
  1649. # [15:02] <froydnj> Waldo: nsTArray simply gets used a ton, so its code was being duplicated far and wide. I don't know that any JS data structures get used quite so widely
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  1652. # [15:03] <Waldo> froydnj: Vector and HashMap and HashSet and all get used on a bunch of stuff inside JS alone; I wouldn't be surprised if you can win a bit sharing more implementations
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  1655. # [15:03] * froydnj goes to look
  1656. # [15:04] <Waldo> I also wonder whether more implementation is sharable if only the member functions depending on CopyElements stuff were specialized in those classes, and the rest of it could be shared in one base class
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  1658. # [15:04] <Waldo> this might be more than the fifty-line change you made, but conceptually it's not too much more different, I think
  1659. # [15:04] <froydnj> quick-and-dirty readelf on linux64 says there's about ~270K in symbols that have 'Vector' in their name
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  1663. # [15:05] <froydnj> that's about a third of the code savings the nsTArray change made
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  1665. # [15:05] <Gijs> graingert: do you have a test case?
  1666. # [15:05] <graingert> Gijs: ah it works if I do
  1667. # [15:06] <graingert> "content-security-policy: default-src 'unsafe-eval' 'unsafe-inline' * ; style-src 'unsafe-inline' *"
  1668. # [15:07] <graingert> Gijs: is * a valid source location?
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  1671. # [15:09] <Waldo> flying through a DST change just seems horrendous
  1672. # [15:09] <Gijs> graingert: I'm not an expert, but it looks like it, yes.
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  1674. # [15:09] <graingert> Gijs: and the order should not effect the validity?
  1675. # [15:09] <graingert> Gijs: I'll build a test case sometime
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  1677. # [15:10] <Waldo> froydnj: also, is it just me, or is it really kind of acutely unsafe to have nsTArray assume without opt-in that everything is bag-o-bytes at the memory level?
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  1681. # [15:11] <Waldo> mozilla::Vector uses mozilla::IsPod<T> to make that selection, and IsPod defaults to false
  1682. # [15:11] <Gijs> graingert: what's the point of having 'unsafe-eval' and 'unsafe-inline' in default-src ?
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  1684. # [15:11] <Gijs> graingert: if I'm reading the spec right, if you include '*', it allows everything, which I'd presume includes those...
  1685. # [15:11] <graingert> Gijs: no
  1686. # [15:12] <graingert> unsafe-inline and eval have to be added manually
  1687. # [15:12] <graingert> "'unsafe-inline'" even
  1688. # [15:13] <graingert> "If 'unsafe-inline' is not in allowed script sources:
  1689. # [15:13] <graingert> "
  1690. # [15:13] <graingert> http://www.w3.org/TR/CSP/#default-src
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  1693. # [15:13] <tbsaunde> Waldo: mozilla::Vector also has all sorts of issues around the allocation stuff :(
  1694. # [15:13] <Waldo> tbsaunde: how so?
  1695. # [15:13] <tbsaunde> (I haven't looked in a while though)
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  1697. # [15:14] <tbsaunde> Waldo: its fallible by default aiui
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  1700. # [15:14] <tbsaunde> also fallibility is part of the object type not an argument to methods
  1701. # [15:14] <Waldo> tbsaunde: yes, that's a good thing :-)
  1702. # [15:14] <tbsaunde> no it is not
  1703. # [15:14] <tbsaunde> and its certainly not what people in gecko will assume
  1704. # [15:14] <Gijs> graingert: right, but it's not part of the grammar for default-src
  1705. # [15:14] * Waldo senses he is talking to a crotchety old XPCOM-using Mozilla developer :-P
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  1707. # [15:15] <Gijs> graingert: sorry, it's in the grammar, but not in the matching rules for the source-list
  1708. # [15:15] <tbsaunde> Waldo: its the old xpcom stuff that's fallible not the new stuff :-P
  1709. # [15:15] <Gijs> graingert: i.e. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSP/#parse-a-source-list
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  1711. # [15:16] <Gijs> graingert: anyway, otherwise, that part of the spec sounds like the order shouldn't matter.
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  1716. # [15:17] <Gijs> graingert: so from my totally amateur understanding, you should file a bug, ideally with a testcase :)
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  1719. # [15:18] <graingert> Gijs: here is an example from the /TR/CSP/: Content-Security-Policy: default-src https: 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval'
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  1722. # [15:19] <Gijs> graingert: right. I guess all I'm saying is, if my uncoming flu isn't interfering with my capacity to read that spec, the parsing rules don't specify what happens with those tokens. :)
  1723. # [15:19] <Gijs> graingert: practically speaking, if the order matters for it to work in Firefox (and it's reasonably clear from those rules that it shouldn't) then please file a bug. :)
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  1729. # [15:23] <froydnj> Waldo: that does seem like an odd choice, yes
  1730. # [15:23] * Waldo sees fitzgen is all over the dense array stuff
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  1736. # [15:25] <tbsaunde> froydnj: well, how much do you trust compilers vectorizers to handle copying arrays of refptrs?
  1737. # [15:25] <froydnj> Waldo: I was a little surprised that there was only one other place that declared nsTArray's element non-memcpy'able
  1738. # [15:25] <froydnj> Waldo: maybe we've just been lucky
  1739. # [15:25] <froydnj> tbsaunde: not at all, considering function calls for addrefs
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  1743. # [15:26] <tbsaunde> froydnj: you shouldn't need to addref if its a move though
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  1746. # [15:27] <tbsaunde> froydnj: I ugess you could call it luck, there aren't that many things that can't be memcpyied and people generally know to not put those in TArrays I think
  1747. # [15:27] <Waldo> we have move support infrastructure
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  1749. # [15:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d7026e79fae - Yury Delendik - Bug 928969 - Telemetry infrastructure for Shumway. r=till
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  1751. # [15:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7a457cfcaa9a - Yury Delendik - Bug 928969 - Update Shumway to version 0.7.501. r=till
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  1753. # [15:28] <Waldo> so I think that concern is addressable wrt memcpy/memmove stuffs
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  1756. # [15:29] <froydnj> tbsaunde: well, everything is a move with memcpy ;) whether that's the *right* semantics is another question
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  1760. # [15:31] <tbsaunde> Waldo: sure, but if you have a bunch of move constructors that just memcpy do you trust the compiler to vectorize that?
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  1762. # [15:33] <froydnj> I'd be a little surprised if the compiler was vectorizing a memcpy of unknown length
  1763. # [15:33] <froydnj> inlining, sure, but vectorizing?
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  1765. # [15:34] <tbsaunde> froydnj: but does that matter as things are we go through libc's memcpy right?
  1766. # [15:34] <froydnj> tbsaunde: we do
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  1770. # [15:35] <froydnj> but now I'm not even sure what we're arguing about
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  1772. # [15:36] <tbsaunde> froydnj: heh, my point is basically that memcpy is almost always fine, and given you can over ride it while not great is good enough given changing it has a bit of risk of hurting perf
  1773. # [15:36] <froydnj> tbsaunde: I think we are in violent agreement here
  1774. # [15:36] <tbsaunde> hahah
  1775. # [15:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bcf1282f3f4b - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 928607. Ensure that nsGfxScrollFrameInner::UpdatePosition clips the overflow area of its children. r=tn
  1776. # [15:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ffd9c7bbd2fe - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 261037. Support scrolled fieldsets. r=mats
  1777. # [15:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a61d898ea4fa - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 929021. Skip calling GetFrameBoundsForTransform when we don't need it. r=heycam
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  1779. # [15:40] <tn> roc, Bug 928607 has un-applied review comments at least
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  1781. # [15:43] <Waldo> bz_away, marking dups at 21:00 does not count as being on vacation
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  1784. # [15:44] <abr> Waldo: Sounds like a fine way to relax. Sit down with a glass of scotch and start combing throuhg bugzilla for dupes…
  1785. # [15:44] <Waldo> except he's not, he's probably triaging Core::General, which is madness
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  1789. # [15:47] <tbsaunde> Waldo: the reason he takes pto is so he has time for it ;)
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  1794. # [15:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/89b5b123e01a - Brian Hackett - Bug 928562 - Eagerly baseline compile inlined scripts during definite properties analysis, r=jandem.
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  1801. # [15:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dddecb33b337 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 922160 - Bring EventHandler.webidl more in line with the spec, remove NodeEventHandlers. r=bz.
  1802. # [15:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ba9be5d51df - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 918351 - Support Replaceable WebIDL properties. r=bz.
  1803. # [15:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd177e58f30b - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 922160 - Bring EventHandler.webidl more in line with the spec, rename BeforeUnloadEventHandler to OnBeforeUnloadEventHandler. r=bz
  1804. # [15:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64a19bc0e198 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 922159 - Rename Creator WebIDL extended attribute to NewObject. r=bz.
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  1807. # [15:57] <mjh563> when will patches that have 'checkin-needed' be landed?
  1808. # [15:57] <mjh563> they don't seem to have been done for several days
  1809. # [15:57] <gaston> depends
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  1811. # [15:57] <gaston> usually ryanvm does them
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  1813. # [15:58] <gaston> but iirc he's not around those days
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  1818. # [16:00] <edmorley> mjh563, gaston: RyanVM is PTO until 28th
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  1821. # [16:01] <gaston> deserved holidays, if you want my opinion :)
  1822. # [16:01] <edmorley> :-)
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  1825. # [16:01] <mjh563> edmorley: so they won't get done till RyanVM is back?
  1826. # [16:01] <mjh563> there's currently 34 bugs with patches waiting to be landed
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  1829. # [16:03] <mjh563> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=checkin-needed%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&list_id=8339295
  1830. # [16:03] <edmorley> mjh563: it's one of those tasks that was informally picked up / helped out with by Ryan
  1831. # [16:03] <edmorley> mjh563: I may be able to take a look once I clear my other work though :-)
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  1865. # [16:19] <khuey_local> is irc really flakey tonight?
  1866. # [16:19] <khuey_local> or is it my connection?
  1867. # [16:19] <jcranmer> ask me in 12 hours when it's night
  1868. # [16:20] <khuey_local> also people.m.o seems to be dead
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  1870. # [16:20] <Standard8> people wfm
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  1872. # [16:21] <khuey_local> although that might be my connection too
  1873. # [16:21] <khuey_local> since http to it is working but not ssh
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  1877. # [16:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd124524d90f - paul.feher@softvision.ro - Bug 927394 - adding waiting periods to fix intermittent fails in testReaderMode; r=gbrown
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  1914. # [16:38] <peterv> I guess we should back out roc and clobber for my changes (due to bug 928195)
  1915. # [16:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4566cb8edb03 - Byron Campen [:bwc] - Bug 929793 - Fix =/== typo. r=ekr
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  1919. # [16:39] <edmorley|sheriffduty> eugh disconnects
  1920. # [16:40] <froydnj> oh, good, I don't have to close things, edmorley|sheriffduty can take care of it :)
  1921. # [16:40] <peterv> edmorley|sheriffduty: I think I could actually fix the problem from roc's patch
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  1925. # [16:40] <froydnj> always a bad sign when your m-i tab title has more oranges than your try title
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  1947. # [16:47] <padenot> ehsan: what!?
  1948. # [16:47] <@ehsan> padenot: yes
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  1950. # [16:48] <@ehsan> padenot: apologies if I have not replied to some of your emails
  1951. # [16:48] <padenot> well, it should know I'm a perfectly reasonnable person
  1952. # [16:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6817b1c1439f - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset ffd9c7bbd2fe (bug 261037) for compilation failures in nsCSSFrameConstructor on a CLOSED TREE
  1953. # [16:48] <@ehsan> padenot: I agree, but Postini doesn't like you for some reason
  1954. # [16:49] <peterv> edmorley|sheriffduty: I had a bustage fix for that :-(
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  1956. # [16:50] <edmorley|sheriffduty> peterv: tree is pretty broken, so wouldn't want to take it sorry
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  1959. # [16:50] <peterv> edmorley|sheriffduty: can I fix my bustage?
  1960. # [16:50] <peterv> edmorley|sheriffduty: b2g only bustage
  1961. # [16:51] <edmorley|sheriffduty> peterv: even at the best of times in-places fixes often don't work (or just reveal the next failure in the "not tested locally or on try" patch) sadly
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  1964. # [16:51] <peterv> edmorley|sheriffduty: plus needing a clobber because WebIDL
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  1969. # [16:52] <edmorley|sheriffduty> peterv: I think it's best to back otu at this point, given we'll already then have N pushes without builds on most platforms, with this and rocs backout
  1970. # [16:53] <edmorley|sheriffduty> peterv: when it relands, please can you touch the CLOBBER file too :-)
  1971. # [16:53] <peterv> fine
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  1973. # [16:54] <edmorley|sheriffduty> peterv: once I leave in 2/3 hours, there won't be another full-time sheriff for ~15 hours, so can't risk leaving the tree in a mess
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  1988. # [16:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0eec634d93ea - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset fd177e58f30b (bug 922160)
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  1994. # [16:58] <@gavin> release management, same as always
  1995. # [16:59] <@gavin> why is it urgent?
  1996. # [16:59] <@gavin> if you just mean "before uplift" I'm sure they'll get to it
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  2027. # [17:11] <edmorley|sheriffduty> philor: and thus it begins...
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  2029. # [17:12] <philor> always nice to wake up straight into the day, instead of being confused by early signs of pleasant before it all turns to shit
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  2195. # [18:39] <@bsmedberg> karl: yt? I don't understand wht (PRThread*)0 is necessary instead of nullptr
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  2198. # [18:41] <karl> bsmedberg: good morning/afternoon. one compile failure is at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=29522763&tree=Try#error0
  2199. # [18:42] <karl> bsmedberg: i assume nullptr is an integer (0) for that compiler
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  2204. # [18:42] <@bsmedberg> hrm, that seems like a bug in nullptr
  2205. # [18:42] <@bsmedberg> that's craptastic
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  2208. # [18:43] <karl> bsmedberg: i assumed the old null was the default when no nullptr was available, but i can't remember why 0 is better than (void*)0 for nullptr
  2209. # [18:44] <karl> was *un*available, sorry
  2210. # [18:44] <karl> oh, right the first time
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  2212. # [18:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a5bb5255845a - Daniel Holbert - Bug 928547: Change AudioStream cubeb-dependent logic to handle success cases first, so we can add #ifdef that ends in failure case. r=padenot
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  2216. # [18:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3687ede61bd - Alexander Surkov - Bug 929773 - ISimpleDOMNode language fails on text nodes, r=davidb
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  2218. # [18:46] <annevk> Is there an open bug on having to update Nightly several times because you just leave it open for days and the updater is not very smart?
  2219. # [18:46] <karl> bsmedberg: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mfbt/NullPtr.h#40 i wonder why __null doesn't give what we want
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  2224. # [18:47] <spohl> mbrubeck: ping
  2225. # [18:47] <tn> annevk: i think so
  2226. # [18:47] <@bsmedberg> karl: do you think that mThreads.IndexOf((PRThread*)0) is preferable to mThreads.IndexOf<PRThread*>(nullptr) ?
  2227. # [18:47] <@gavin> annevk: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353804
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  2229. # [18:48] <mbrubeck> spohl: pong
  2230. # [18:48] <karl> bsmedberg: no, IndexOf<PRThread*> is good, thanks
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  2232. # [18:49] <spohl> mbrubeck: hi there, thanks for your heads up about the regressions due to bug 860493.
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  2234. # [18:49] <mbrubeck> you're welcome -- sorry to be the bearer of bad benchmarks. :P
  2235. # [18:50] <spohl> mbrubeck: we did expect some regressions, simply because they're unavoidable with this feature. but are you saying that they are too severe for the patch to stay on trunk?
  2236. # [18:50] <spohl> mbrubeck: if so, are you (or someone) able to help me analyze the regressions?
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  2238. # [18:50] <mbrubeck> spohl: I'm not the one to make the call; I just work on making sure all regressions get looked at.
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  2243. # [18:51] <spohl> mbrubeck: okay, should I just sit tight and wait, or should I take preemptive action..?
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  2245. # [18:51] <mbrubeck> I'm happy to help with analyzing the data available in graph server / datazilla, though when it gets to actually profiling to find causes that is beyond my expertise.
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  2248. # [18:52] <ted> i like reading posts from people using java on the click-to-play bug saying that whatever they're doing can't be done with web tech, when it almost certainly can
  2249. # [18:52] <@gavin> spohl: why are they unavoidable?
  2250. # [18:52] <ted> (most recent one is a photo book design application)
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  2254. # [18:52] <mbrubeck> spohl: A 17% regression in Tp5 is probably not something we want to ship, unless we can show some evidence that it doesn't show up in real-world workloads.
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  2256. # [18:53] <spohl> gavin: there is inevitably some overhead from taking snapshots every time a user visits a new page. this is to match Safari's behavior.
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  2259. # [18:53] <spohl> gavin: I've made most of it run asynchronously, but kicking this off and calling the callback will still cause some work to be executed on the main thread
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  2261. # [18:54] <mbrubeck> s/doesn't show up/doesn't have significant user-noticeable effects/
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  2263. # [18:54] <mbrubeck> The 55% (150-200ms) regression in SVG Opacity is the largest and might be useful for profiling -- since this shouldn't affect actual SVG load/render, it must all be in added overhead
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  2265. # [18:55] <@gavin> I don't think it's acceptable to take a snapshot every time the user visits a new page
  2266. # [18:55] <spohl> mbrubeck: makes sense.
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  2268. # [18:56] <mbrubeck> For comparison, the regression in the Tp5 average was 14ms on 10.8, and 48ms on 10.7.
  2269. # [18:56] <spohl> gavin: I'm definitely open to other (better) suggestions to make this feature (history swipe animations, bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=678392) work. :-)
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  2272. # [18:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eafe6b0acd33 - David Caabeiro - Bug 896264 - Implement Math.hypot(). r=jorendorff.
  2273. # [18:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f4815b4ad64 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 901979 - Assertion failure: !global->nativeLookup(cx, id), at ../jsobjinlines.h:1125. r=Waldo.
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  2275. # [18:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1fbd79b930b2 - André Bargull - Bug 928508 - Change String.prototype.@@iterator to iterate over code points. r=jorendorff.
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  2278. # [18:58] <mbrubeck> Looking at Datazilla, the Tp5 regression is spread about equally across all of the subpages of the test.
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  2299. # [19:05] <nalexander> Hey, has anybody seen "file was built for unsupported file format ( 0x49 0x4e 0x50 0x55 0x54 0x28 0x22 0x68 0x6f 0x73 0x74 0x5f 0x6e 0x73 0x69 0x6e ) which is not the architecture being linked (x86_64)"
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  2301. # [19:05] <nalexander> Building mobile/android (Fennec).
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  2326. # [19:11] <rillian> nalexander: INPUT?
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  2330. # [19:11] <dholbert> jorendorff, for shame @ commit message " Assertion failure: !global->nativeLookup(cx, id), at ../jsobjinlines.h:1125" :)
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  2333. # [19:12] <nalexander> rillian: oh, top-level build: ./mach build
  2334. # [19:12] <nemo> hm. I'm googling to try and figure out if my cell network has FirefoxOS devices
  2335. # [19:12] <froydnj> edmorley++
  2336. # [19:12] <nemo> doesn't seem like it...
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  2338. # [19:13] <nemo> does mozilla have a page w/ that info somewhere?
  2339. # [19:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35a83682c173 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 898342 - Implement movable handles for Typed Objects r=till
  2340. # [19:13] <jorendorff> dholbert: i've perpetrated worse
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  2344. # [19:13] <rillian> nalexander: no, I meant 'INPUT' is a funny file magic
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  2346. # [19:13] <spohl> mbrubeck, gavin: I'll try to reach out to the right people to have the perf regressions looked at. I hear asking bgirard would be a good start. thanks again for the heads up!
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  2348. # [19:14] <nalexander> rillian: I'm confused. I need to run; perhaps you can enlighten me at lunch :)
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  2350. # [19:14] <rillian> ok! (not that my comment was directly helpful)
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  2352. # [19:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/06880eeb81a0 - Joshua Cranmer - Bug 920849 - Fix regression that stops comm-central from building, r=gps
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  2376. # [19:26] <sheeri> sheppy: when's a good time to do a failover for the db servers behind MDN? This results in a few seconds of outage (<30 seconds) while we failover. We want to upgrade (about 30 mins) and then fail back, if possible, which is another few seconds of downtime.
  2377. # [19:27] <sheeri> (upgrading to Oracle's MySQL 5.6.)
  2378. # [19:27] <sheppy> sheeri: pretty much anytime, I expect.
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  2432. # [19:46] <@smaug> fabrice1: so locally the patch works, with leaks
  2433. # [19:46] <@smaug> I'm fixing the leaks and push then to try
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  2435. # [19:47] <fabrice1> smaug: did you change to use nsClassHashTable?
  2436. # [19:47] <@smaug> nope
  2437. # [19:48] <@smaug> though, that would simplify memory management so I guess I should do it
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  2445. # [19:50] <fabrice1> smaug: I started doing it
  2446. # [19:51] <fabrice1> still need to update CountReferents
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  2451. # [19:52] <@smaug> fabrice1: I updated that stuff already
  2452. # [19:52] <@smaug> let me compile the patch..
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  2500. # [20:14] <@smaug> this is odd code
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  2526. # [20:26] <jorendorff> what does "c;r" mean?
  2527. # [20:26] <Ms2ger> jorendorff, c[something]; retriggered
  2528. # [20:26] <Ms2ger> c may stand for clobber
  2529. # [20:26] <Ms2ger> Or crap
  2530. # [20:26] <jorendorff> yokay
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  2536. # [20:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9dd234437dd1 - Ziga Seilnacht - Bug 922517 - fix O(tests * support-files) behaviour in _process_test_manifest, r=gps
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  2543. # [20:32] <nemo> some bizarre site behaviour I can't figure out
  2544. # [20:32] <nemo> I was reading this article:
  2545. # [20:32] <nemo> http://www.dhnet.be/actu/faits/a-7-ans-elle-decouvre-sur-facebook-que-maman-trompe-papa-526754153570dfa00784ed32
  2546. # [20:33] <nemo> And, after the page loaded, a horizontal scrollbar started appearing once a second, about half page width, then shrinking a bit, then vanishing
  2547. # [20:33] <nemo> repeat every second
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  2549. # [20:33] <nemo> I've deleted elements of page, can't find an explanation for it
  2550. # [20:33] <nemo> Doesn't seem to happen in Safari
  2551. # [20:33] <nemo> using Firefox Nightly
  2552. # [20:33] <nemo> I enabled paint flashing hoping for a clue, no luck
  2553. # [20:33] <nemo> ooooh there's a marquee!! wooo
  2554. # [20:33] <nemo> "A ne pas manquer"
  2555. # [20:34] <nemo> right. let's see if something silly is happening
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  2557. # [20:34] <nemo> btw, w/ paint flashing, if I scroll the page, and the top portion of the comment area is visible, while dragging the scrollbar up and down, that area flashes like mad
  2558. # [20:34] <nemo> don't see any sane reason for *that*
  2559. # [20:34] <nemo> damn carousels
  2560. # [20:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/376956b7585a - Dan Minor - Bug 927989 - cpp unittest TestStartupCache fails when run from test package; r=ted
  2561. # [20:35] * corey is now known as corey|away
  2562. # [20:36] <nemo> Oo. I added overflow: hidden; to the carousel and I still get the scrollbar...
  2563. # [20:36] <nemo> weiiird
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  2565. # [20:36] <nemo> heck. there's already an overflow: hidden on the wrapper div
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  2567. # [20:37] <nemo> ugh. monitoring changing items in the default dev tools is annoying. rerenders entire rules pane :(
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  2571. # [20:37] <nemo> well. this is what comes of using a test profile to avoid noise
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  2573. # [20:38] <nemo> ok. I dunno... these rules seem fine
  2574. # [20:38] <nemo> and only firefox is screwing up the carousel
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  2576. # [20:39] <nemo> chrome and safari seem ok
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  2578. # [20:39] <nemo> there's positioning, but w/ the position: relative; overflow: hidden; parent, that should not be a problem, surely...
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  2583. # [20:40] <nemo> yep. anomalous scrollbar only in nightly
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  2586. # [20:40] <nemo> I just know what the answer will be. file a bug
  2587. # [20:41] <nemo> which means stripping down this hideous mess of HTML on a site that I don't care about to get a useful testcase :(
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  2590. # [20:41] <nemo> guess I could just pretend I didn't see it :-p
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  2608. # [20:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5ef0ca4d1068 - Rail Aliiev - Bug 917642 - [Helix] Please update the helix blobs. r=nhirata
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  2616. # [20:51] <nemo> eh. filed w/o reduced testcase as https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=930154 - will let someone else worry about it :)
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  2618. # [20:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dfb15cca5df4 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 930025 - b2g unittests need to check for crashes in more places, r=jgriffin
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  2625. # [20:55] <@smaug> whaat, chrome tests don't work anymore when run using runtests?
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  2628. # [20:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d75468812ea4 - Rick Eyre - Bug 865407 - Part 2: Change TextTrackList::RemoveTextTrack() to receive a pointer r=rillian
  2629. # [20:56] <@smaug> I get always http://mochi.test:8888/redirect.html
  2630. # [20:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d7ed37acfe6 - Rick Eyre - Bug 865407 - Part 1: Add TextTrackManager class r=cpearce
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  2638. # [20:59] <@smaug> not nice
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  2647. # [21:01] <tanvi> smaug: ping
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  2650. # [21:02] <@smaug> tanvi: pong
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  2652. # [21:02] <tanvi> smaug: do you think you will have a chance to review https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=909920 soon?
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  2654. # [21:02] <tanvi> i'd like to get it landed and uplifted to aurora this week
  2655. # [21:02] <tanvi> before merge next week
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  2658. # [21:03] <@smaug> I might be able to review it tomorrow
  2659. # [21:03] <@smaug> my review queue has been rather crazy lately
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  2661. # [21:04] <tanvi> smaug: okay thanks! i've reviewed it all several times, so hopefully there isn't much left to fix
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  2664. # [21:04] <@smaug> tanvi: ok, thanks
  2665. # [21:04] <@smaug> hmm, maybe I should try to look at it still today
  2666. # [21:04] <tanvi> smaug: but it is a big change in the way we process requests, so i would like you to look at it too
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  2668. # [21:05] <tanvi> *process requests in MCB
  2669. # [21:05] <tbsaunde> froydnj: any chance you're already trying to fix that static constructor regression from a couple days ago? it looks like the webrtc people should have global std::strings
  2670. # [21:06] <tanvi> smaug: thanks!
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  2677. # [21:09] <froydnj> tbsaunde: ekr said that they would take care of it as part of a different bug
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  2682. # [21:12] <tbsaunde> froydnj: ah, cool
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  2689. # [21:16] <tbsaunde> ehsan: I'm not really sure why you want me to file a bug telling releng what to do when we haven't decided what we want to do yet...
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  2693. # [21:18] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: I meant you can make your request via filing a bug
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  2695. # [21:18] <@ehsan> comments on mailing list threads can get lost
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  2701. # [21:20] <tbsaunde> ehsan: I don't think there's much point in requesting something before we've decided what we want
  2702. # [21:20] <@ehsan> ok
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  2704. # [21:20] <tbsaunde> and I was sort of hoping someone in releng would reply and tell me why they think one repo is so terrible
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  2722. # [21:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d3e014a0b5ad - Nathan Froyd - Bug 927427 - use __LP64__ in FileUtils.cpp for Linux; r=bsmedberg
  2723. # [21:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/169b3659b6c3 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 927551 - make darwin xptcall sources compilable in a singlepass universal build; r=bsmedberg,glandium
  2724. # [21:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/921bdd41fbce - Nathan Froyd - Bug 927535 - interrogate ctypes to find out about win32/win64 bits instead of preprocessor macros; r=bholley
  2725. # [21:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/09fcb0805831 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 927428 - use __LP64__ instead of HAVE_64BIT_OS in the linker; r=glandium
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  2759. # [21:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d9f5b1eb84e8 - Rail Aliiev - Bug 917642 - [Helix] Please update the helix blobs. Backed out changeset 5ef0ca4d1068
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  2763. # [21:45] <ted> bsmedberg: is there a public page somewhere on the user testing you had done for click-to-play plugins?
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  2766. # [21:46] <@bsmedberg> ted: it's linked from https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2013/09/24/plugin-activation-in-firefox/
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  2769. # [21:46] <ted> thanks
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  2783. # [21:53] <reuben> Qt 5.2 ships with their own ES5.1 compliant JS engine, called v4vm: http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2013/04/15/evolution-of-the-qml-engine-part-1/
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  2799. # [22:04] <clb> reuben: I wonder how many JS engines that makes in the Qt core
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  2801. # [22:04] <clb> the fifth?
  2802. # [22:04] <reuben> clb: lol
  2803. # [22:05] <reuben> oh, not concurrently
  2804. # [22:05] <reuben> third?
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  2808. # [22:06] <clb> they had JSC for QtScript, then they had V8 for QML, then they have JSC for the webkit browser plugin, and now they have their own as well
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  2811. # [22:07] <clb> and I think they do have all those simultaneously, if you build all the modules
  2812. # [22:08] <fabrice1> reuben: " It contains a JIT that currently works on Linux, Mac and iOS" I wonder how they got their JIT to work on iOS
  2813. # [22:09] <@ehsan> dmajor: ping
  2814. # [22:09] <dmajor> ehsan: pong
  2815. # [22:09] <@ehsan> dmajor: hey... is bug 922441 an issue in the final version of the compiler?
  2816. # [22:10] <reuben> fabrice1: I think they meant to say "it contains a JIT and an interpreter which allows it to work…"
  2817. # [22:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/16ea1b03d8fe - Jonathan Kew - bug 877203 pt 1 - replace Open Sans fonts with Clear Sans v1.00 (with stripped kern tables). r=blassey
  2818. # [22:10] <dmajor> ehsan: yes :(
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  2820. # [22:10] <@ehsan> hrm
  2821. # [22:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/440b13668e56 - Jonathan Kew - bug 877203 pt 3 - update font prefs for Android to refer to Clear Sans. r=blassey
  2822. # [22:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e8f868d1abe - Jonathan Kew - bug 877203 pt 2 - remove obsolete/redundant font names from CSS in mobile/android. r=blassey
  2823. # [22:10] <reuben> clb: this one is for QML, it replaces V8
  2824. # [22:10] <dmajor> ehsan: I was going to ping you about that... do we even still care about 2013 if we can't cross-PGO?
  2825. # [22:10] <fabrice1> reuben: maybe, but the sentence is simple enough to not be ambiguous
  2826. # [22:10] <clb> reuben: yeah, I bet you still have a flagset that will allow you to build both ;)
  2827. # [22:11] <@ehsan> dmajor: maybe, if somebody else comes up with a good reason to upgrade :)
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  2830. # [22:11] <reuben> fabrice1: http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2013/10/23/qt-5-2-beta-available/ " The interpreter also allows us to use the engine on iOS and comply with iOS AppStore policies."
  2831. # [22:11] <@ehsan> dmajor: have you tried rearranging the code in TextureGarbageBin.cpp to see if that makes the bug go away?
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  2833. # [22:11] <fabrice1> reuben: ha ha
  2834. # [22:11] <@ehsan> with these kinds of bugs, sometimes changing the code enough will work around them
  2835. # [22:11] <hub> reuben, fabrice1: I was told by ted that there is nothing technically preventing us from having a JIT on iOS
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  2837. # [22:12] <dmajor> ehsan: I haven't tried rearranging, but I've tried disabling optimization on the file
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  2839. # [22:12] <gaston> any build system hacker around could explain me WRAP_STL_INCLUDES ?
  2840. # [22:12] <reuben> hub: except you can't distribute your app?
  2841. # [22:12] <fabrice1> hub: really? I though we could not write to executable pages?
  2842. # [22:12] <@ehsan> dmajor: and I assume that hasn't helped? :)
  2843. # [22:12] <dmajor> correct
  2844. # [22:12] <hub> reuben: I said "technically"
  2845. # [22:12] <reuben> fabrice1: it's an app store policy, not something enforced globally (the browser has a working JIT)
  2846. # [22:13] <@ehsan> dmajor: sigh :(
  2847. # [22:13] <hub> reuben: the app store locking is not technical
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  2849. # [22:13] <reuben> ah, ok
  2850. # [22:13] <@ehsan> dmajor: another question, have you ever seen http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/5a691c97-fe10-4a8a-aced-c33e0adeed4b?SRC=Home#! ?
  2851. # [22:13] <hub> now this was conversation around beer,
  2852. # [22:13] <hub> I still believe we should port Firefox to iOS and then see Apple rejecting it to stir the pot
  2853. # [22:14] <dmajor> ehsan: no, haven't seen it before. looks like maybe just a GUI wrapper around what already exists?
  2854. # [22:14] <fabrice1> reuben: I think they whitelisted the browser to be able to do that, but not other apps
  2855. # [22:14] <@ehsan> yeah...
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  2857. # [22:14] <@ehsan> dmajor: ok, let me CC you on this email
  2858. # [22:14] <dmajor> ehsan: any chance your contact can help us get a suggested workaround or maybe even a hotfix?
  2859. # [22:14] <reuben> hub: that's a pretty huge engineering effort just to stir the pot :)
  2860. # [22:14] <@ehsan> dmajor: I had already nagged them about this, will do so again in a few mins :)
  2861. # [22:14] <hub> there are emulators that run on iOS
  2862. # [22:15] <dmajor> ehsan: also I found another bug last night in their floating point library that I would say merits a point release
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  2866. # [22:15] <dmajor> ehsan: bug 929834, working on creating a reduced repro to file on Connect
  2867. # [22:15] <hub> reuben: it is like any fight
  2868. # [22:15] <nalexander> Looks like we have bc orange on fx-team from https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/69ebfb936442
  2869. # [22:15] <@ehsan> dmajor: dammit! :)
  2870. # [22:15] <nalexander> sherriffs ^
  2871. # [22:15] <hub> we put engineering into some dead projects already
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  2873. # [22:16] <froydnj> nalexander: congratulations, you're sheriff for a day
  2874. # [22:16] <nalexander> froydnj: done, I'll backout.
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  2881. # [22:18] <ted> hub: i'm not 100% certain, tbh, i don't know that i ever tested on a non-jailbroken device
  2882. # [22:18] <ted> it's possible that there's some technical measure that prevents it
  2883. # [22:19] <ted> it wouldn't be hard to test, i suppose
  2884. # [22:19] <ted> hub: we should do a hack sprint on the iOS port
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  2888. # [22:22] <@ehsan> dmajor: email sent
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  2893. # [22:23] <nalexander> Who closed fx-team? Should I still push this backout?
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  2898. # [22:25] <nalexander> philor: I pushed the backout to fx-team.
  2899. # [22:25] <@smaug> fabrice1: this is so bizarre
  2900. # [22:25] <fabrice1> smaug: I agree!
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  2967. # [22:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3656e6195ed2 - Birunthan Mohanathas - Bug 784739 - Switch from NULL to nullptr in dom/plugins/base/; r=ehsan
  2968. # [22:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2540bc9686e - Birunthan Mohanathas - Bug 784739 - Switch from NULL to nullptr in js/; r=ehsan
  2969. # [22:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58652b0ac86e - Birunthan Mohanathas - Bug 784739 - Switch from NULL to nullptr in miscellaneous directories; r=ehsan
  2970. # [22:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8c97df0418d - Birunthan Mohanathas - Bug 784739 - Switch from NULL to nullptr in content/; r=ehsan
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  2972. # [22:59] <mikeperry> yesterday I was told that the official git export of mozilla-central was moving from https://github.com/mozilla/mozilla-central to http://git.mozilla.org/?p=integration/gecko-dev.git;a=summary. has that been finalized? are the hashes in integration/gecko-dev.git unlikely to change?
  2973. # [22:59] <mikeperry> also https://github.com/mozilla/mozilla-central seems to be missing the esr24 branch. has the github repo already been deprecated entirely, or is that just an oversight?
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  2975. # [23:00] <froydnj> mikeperry: probably just an oversight
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  2977. # [23:00] <Mook_as> mikeperry: as I understand it: yes, it's moving, into an actual releng-supported tree
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  2979. # [23:01] <froydnj> ehsan: ^ adding esr24 would be ++
  2980. # [23:01] <@ehsan> mikeperry: oversight, I'll add it right now
  2981. # [23:01] <mikeperry> ok great
  2982. # [23:01] <@ehsan> does the releng repo have it?
  2983. # [23:02] <mikeperry> when will the switch be finalized btw? I ask because the git hashes don't match, so switching is a bit problematic for us (and we'd hate to have to do it twice if the new repo gets re-created again)
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  2985. # [23:02] <mikeperry> ehsan: yes.
  2986. # [23:02] <@ehsan> mikeperry: unclear, see the dev.planning thread
  2987. # [23:02] <mikeperry> http://git.mozilla.org/?p=integration/gecko-dev.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/esr24
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  2990. # [23:04] <mikeperry> ehsan: which subject?
  2991. # [23:04] <mikeperry> hg-git replication for gecko?
  2992. # [23:05] <@ehsan> yep
  2993. # [23:05] <@ehsan> mikeperry: btw, the conversion script is now doing its magic...
  2994. # [23:05] <mikeperry> cool, thanks a lot
  2995. # [23:06] <@ehsan> np
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  2999. # [23:07] <@ehsan> mikeperry: https://github.com/mozilla/mozilla-central/tree/esr24
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  3001. # [23:08] <biesi_> so... why does mach build tell me it can't determine TOTAL_PHYMEM :(
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  3003. # [23:09] <@dolske> zomg, biesi_ building mozilla?! :)
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  3005. # [23:09] <@dolske> or, well, not-building...
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  3007. # [23:09] <biesi_> I do that from time to time :)
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  3009. # [23:09] <biesi_> although, mostly to compare gecko to blink...
  3010. # [23:10] <froydnj> masayuki++
  3011. # [23:10] <@ehsan> biesi_: which is better? ;)
  3012. # [23:10] <@dolske> istr discussion about having mach checking to see how much ram you have, to complain/suggest you upgrade if it's really low.
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  3014. # [23:10] * biesi_ eyes https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=908296
  3015. # [23:10] <@dolske> but sounds like that's just flat broken for you?
  3016. # [23:11] <biesi_> ehsan: hah. gecko is almost always more correct :)
  3017. # [23:11] <@ehsan> biesi_: (you should ask gps)
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  3019. # [23:11] <@ehsan> biesi_: haha, nice answer ;)
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  3021. # [23:11] <biesi_> though it doesn't implement flexbox fully...
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  3023. # [23:12] <@ehsan> biesi_: dholbert would know why
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  3025. # [23:12] <@dolske> come for the flexbox, stay for the XUL!
  3026. # [23:12] <biesi_> heh
  3027. # [23:13] <biesi_> gps: any idea why I'd still see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=908296 's error on ubuntu?
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  3055. # [23:27] <dmajor> ehsan: I filed that bug on the VC12 FP code
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  3057. # [23:27] <@ehsan> BenWa: ping
  3058. # [23:27] <@ehsan> dmajor: ty
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  3061. # [23:31] <senicar> hi, I'm making a custom bookmarks popup menu, however BookmarksEventHandler is complaining aView is missing, how do I create this._placesView on my popup? Thanks
  3062. # [23:31] <mikeperry> ehsan: it looks like the github repo is still missing esr release tags too?
  3063. # [23:32] <@ehsan> mikeperry: which tags?
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  3067. # [23:34] <mikeperry> ehsan: unless there are none for FF24esr yet
  3068. # [23:34] * Mook_as notes that the upcoming git repo doesn't have the release tags, just the release branches
  3069. # [23:35] <@ehsan> mikeperry: if you tell me which tag you're looking for, I may be able to help :)
  3070. # [23:35] <Mook_as> there's a FIREFOX_24_1_0esr_RELEASE?
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  3072. # [23:35] <@ehsan> Mook_as: true
  3073. # [23:35] <@ehsan> Mook_as: RelEng doesn't add any tags
  3074. # [23:35] <Mook_as> something about crazy non-stationary tags or something :)
  3075. # [23:35] <mikeperry> ehsan: FIREFOX_24_1_0esr_RELEASE and FIREFOX_24_0esr_RELEASE (and the BUILD1 tags) are both in hg
  3076. # [23:35] <mikeperry> but not github
  3077. # [23:36] <mikeperry> the 17esr tags are there though
  3078. # [23:36] <Mook_as> mikeperry: https://github.com/mozilla/mozilla-central/blob/FIREFOX_24_1_0esr_RELEASE/README.txt exists?
  3079. # [23:36] * @ehsan checks
  3080. # [23:36] <mbrubeck> senicar: I guess you'll want to do something like "myPopup._placesView = MyPlacesView" where MyPlacesView is an object that implements whatever properties PlacesUIUtils is expecting...
  3081. # [23:37] <sicking> jduell: ping
  3082. # [23:37] <mbrubeck> senicar: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/places/content/browserPlacesViews.js has the code that the existing toolbar and menu use
  3083. # [23:37] <mikeperry> ehsan: oh weird, git fetch origin --tags just got them
  3084. # [23:37] <@ehsan> mikeperry: the FIREFOX_24_1_0esr_RELEASE tag does exist
  3085. # [23:37] <@ehsan> hehe
  3086. # [23:37] <jduell> sicking: pong
  3087. # [23:37] <@ehsan> cool
  3088. # [23:37] <mikeperry> they are just not in the UI
  3089. # [23:37] <mbrubeck> and a base constructor that you might want to reuse
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  3091. # [23:37] <@ehsan> git fetch doesn't get the tags by default
  3092. # [23:38] <@ehsan> mikeperry: out of curiosity, why do you care about tags?
  3093. # [23:38] <mikeperry> maybe my view of the github tags from the UI hasn't updated yet
  3094. # [23:38] <sicking> jduell: you know how there are HTTP features for partial downloads which are fairly well supported with servers. Is there anything equivalent for partial uploads?
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  3096. # [23:38] <mikeperry> ehsan: we use them to build Tor Browser
  3097. # [23:38] <jugglinmike> I have a quick question about default fonts, if anyone here has a minute
  3098. # [23:38] <sicking> jduell: it sounds a lot tricker since the server doesn't have the ability to indicate support before we start transferring the data
  3099. # [23:38] <sicking> jduell: stupid http
  3100. # [23:38] <gwagner> philor: ping
  3101. # [23:39] <@ehsan> mikeperry: I see... so you might want to talk to aki from RelEng about this, since he doesn't plan on adding those tags to the RelEng repo
  3102. # [23:39] <gwagner> philor: I think we need a clobber on b2g-inbound. this is notification related
  3103. # [23:39] <Mook_as> mikeperry: fwiw, I plan on hacking my script to fetch the most-recent-looking relbranch, on the assumption that they'll mostly match
  3104. # [23:39] <@ehsan> mikeperry: you can find him on #releng
  3105. # [23:39] <Mook_as> (for komodo)
  3106. # [23:39] <@ehsan> Mook_as: they should, yes
  3107. # [23:39] <mbrubeck> jugglinmike: What's the question?
  3108. # [23:40] <@ehsan> mikeperry: also, it's *awesome* that you're updating the tor browser version :)
  3109. # [23:40] <jugglinmike> mbrubeck: Thanks! I'm wondering how I can determine what font is used when I specify "font-family: monospace;" in CSS
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  3111. # [23:40] <sicking> jduell: also, i guess it's a lot harder for us to know what data to send since it depends on what data the server has, which we don't know :(
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  3113. # [23:40] <jugglinmike> mbrubeck: this is for a Gaia application--not sure if that's relevant
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  3115. # [23:41] <mbrubeck> jugglinmike: Hmm, let me see if I can find anything.
  3116. # [23:42] <mbrubeck> dbaron or jfkthame would be good people to ask but they aren't here. :/
  3117. # [23:42] <mikeperry> ehsan: yeah, I am also planning on rebasing the patches to master/default/tip and getting as many as I can merged.
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  3119. # [23:42] <jduell> sicking: is there some HTTP spec for partial uploads I don't know about? IIRC Range: is only for replies
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  3121. # [23:42] <philor> gwagner: yeah, I already clobbered with the clobberer, but if you could push a cset touching the CLOBBER file so the clobbering gets merged around when we merge, that'd help
  3122. # [23:42] <mbrubeck> jugglinmike: The devtools font inspector can do it, but I don't know whether it uses stuff that's accessible to web content/apps.
  3123. # [23:43] <sicking> jduell: this was my question to you
  3124. # [23:43] <sicking> jduell: "Is there anything equivalent for partial uploads?"
  3125. # [23:43] <jduell> sicking: I've never heard of it, it's not in RFC 2616, and I'm not having any luck googling
  3126. # [23:43] <sicking> jduell: ok
  3127. # [23:43] <@ehsan> mikeperry: cool!
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  3130. # [23:44] <gwagner> philor: so just paste the bug in there, push with clobber needed r=me?
  3131. # [23:44] <mbrubeck> jugglinmike: Looks like font inspector uses http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ident?i=getUsedFontFaces ...
  3132. # [23:44] <sicking> jduell: i think this requires more of a back-and-forth between the server and client to negotiate both support as well as which data still needs to be uploaded. So doesn't seem to fit with http1.1 at all
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  3134. # [23:44] <sicking> jduell: can we add it to http2?
  3135. # [23:44] <jduell> sicking: good question: I'll ask mcmanus. Meanwhile.... websockets?
  3136. # [23:45] <sicking> jduell: yes!
  3137. # [23:45] <sicking> jduell: i've chatted with bent a bunch about ipdl from off-main-thread
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  3140. # [23:45] <sicking> jduell: since that seems like a blocker to get a reasonable solution, right?
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  3144. # [23:46] <jduell> sicking: well, we can probably contort something for websockets at least that does all IPDL between worker and socket transport thread
  3145. # [23:47] <philor> gwagner: there's actually no hook that looks for r= in commit messages, be brave and join me as one of the few, the proud, the ones who don't make up reviewers!
  3146. # [23:47] <sicking> jduell: how do you mean?
  3147. # [23:47] <senicar> mbrubeck: thanks, I have just stumbled upon that code myself, I hope I'll figure it out ;)
  3148. # [23:47] <mbrubeck> jugglinmike: As far as I can tell there's no way for a web app to get font names for default fonts.
  3149. # [23:48] <gwagner> philor: ok pushed it
  3150. # [23:48] <jduell> sicking: my understanding is that IPDL can already do off-main thread, but only if *all* msgs go between the given threads
  3151. # [23:48] <jduell> sicking: if true (I heard it from this guy named cjones) then we could open IPDL between worker thread and socket transport.
  3152. # [23:48] <sicking> jduell: bent had a feeling that was the case, but didn't have details
  3153. # [23:49] <jduell> AsyncOpen would get proxied to main thread, but most msgs (send/recv) would be direct
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  3155. # [23:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/329c833e4617 - Camilo Viecco - Bug 895601: Add tests to cert verification in psm. r=keeler.
  3156. # [23:49] <sicking> jduell: sounds good if we can make it happen
  3157. # [23:49] <sicking> jduell: i think you need to talk with bent though, i don't have enough details to be really useful I think
  3158. # [23:50] <jugglinmike> mbrubeck: Actually, my apologies, I didn't mean to suggest that I need to do this programatically.
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  3160. # [23:50] <mbrubeck> jugglinmike: ah
  3161. # [23:50] <jugglinmike> I am just trying to learn which font is used in that case, so that I can match a visual specification that calls for "Source Code Pro Light"
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  3164. # [23:51] <jduell> sicking: hmm, it sounds like maybe we might have to do main thread on parent, but can do non-main on child: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627635#c82
  3165. # [23:51] <sicking> jduell: yeah, that's the impression I had too. Definitely an ok start though
  3166. # [23:51] <sicking> jduell: as it helps a bunch with the code-simplitly problem. Doesn't help with any performance issues though, but I think that's ok to tackle separately
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  3168. # [23:52] <jduell> sicking: it would help a little with perf, and yes, the worker code would be simpler
  3169. # [23:52] <gps> biesi_: did you see the workaround in bug 908296's whiteboard? hg status -in python/psutil | xargs rm
  3170. # [23:52] <biesi_> gps: I did, but that didn't work
  3171. # [23:52] <mbrubeck> jugglinmike: So, here are the default prefs for Firefox OS: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/modules/libpref/src/init/all.js#3360
  3172. # [23:52] <biesi_> gps: this is a new checkout
  3173. # [23:52] <sicking> jduell: sweet
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  3175. # [23:53] <gps> biesi_: I... don't know
  3176. # [23:53] * Quits: jfkthame (jfkthame@moz-BAE8D951.pck.nerim.net) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
  3177. # [23:53] <biesi_> gps: ok :(
  3178. # [23:53] <biesi_> I guess I'll try make -f client.mk
  3179. # [23:53] <gps> should be fixed in 26 and later :(
  3180. # [23:53] <mbrubeck> jugglinmike: So, looks like "monospace" will generally be Fira Mono OT, assuming the prefs aren't modified and that font is installed on the device.
  3181. # [23:55] <biesi_> gps: client.mk caused the setup for a python environment... is that a prerequisite perhaps...?
  3182. # [23:55] <biesi_> hm, apparently not
  3183. # [23:56] <biesi_> gps: or maybe I'm missing a setup step? All I did was hg clone .../mozilla-central and then ./mach build
  3184. # [23:56] <biesi_> on ubuntu 12.04
  3185. # [23:56] <jugglinmike> mbrubeck: That's great! Thanks a bunch :)
  3186. # [23:57] * Parts: christina (christina@moz-BE33DA21.fw1.sfo1.mozilla.net)
  3187. # [23:59] * juanb is now known as juanb|afk
  3188. # [23:59] * wlach is now known as wlach|afk
  3189. # [23:59] * Quits: breck (breck@moz-E512D9D2.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) (Client exited)
  3190. # [23:59] * philor is now known as philor|away
  3191. # Session Close: Thu Oct 24 00:00:00 2013

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