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8. # [00:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f6219c6fb61 - Terrence Cole - Bug 929800 - Handlify the structured clone interface; r=sfink,smaug
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10. # [00:03] <Ghost_Of_JNG> Why did you murder me?! AVENGE ME
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13. # [00:04] <WeirdAl> will someone please ban that guy? The joke is now beyond old.
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18. # [00:06] <@khuey> WeirdAl: that should do it
19. # [00:06] <@khuey> oh
20. # [00:06] <@khuey> not
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26. # [00:07] <@khuey> that should do it
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28. # [00:07] <efaust> khuey: he keeps bumping the letter before NG, can we realname ban, or ip ban?
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31. # [00:08] <efaust> really, we should just kline them
32. # [00:08] <@khuey> yeah I can't do that
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35. # [00:10] <nemo> is there any way to make firefox crank CPU usage way back if I've left it running at home? like, call timers in tabs way less frequently and such
36. # [00:10] <nemo> I'll pop in, check to see what is sucking up CPU expecting to see a minecraft server.
37. # [00:10] <nemo> nope, is firefox. have to kill it remotely
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39. # [00:11] * nemo pokes around in about:config for anything thatl ooks promising
40. # [00:11] <nemo> hrm. don't even see anything I could forcibly trigger w/ some external proggie
41. # [00:12] <nemo> was hoping there was maybe an about:config entry that I could abuse to force minimum timer sleep to like 5 minutes
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44. # [00:12] <nemo> oh well, there's always noscript
45. # [00:13] <terrence> nemo: yeah, that's what I used to solve that problem
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48. # [00:15] <nemo> web is way too JS-happy these days
49. # [00:15] <nemo> and for stuff that really doesn't need it
50. # [00:16] <glandium> romaxa: still there?
51. # [00:16] <nemo> guess I'm assuming it is JS. could be CSS animations for all I know. haven't profiled it or anything
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73. # [00:29] <@smaug> nemo: we don't call timers too often in the bg tabs
74. # [00:29] <@smaug> nor animation frame callbacks
75. # [00:30] <@smaug> though, if you have tons of tabs open and they have lots of timers...
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79. # [00:35] <@smaug> nemo: set dom.min_background_timeout_value to some high number (it is in ms) and dom.min_timeout_value too ?
80. # [00:36] <@smaug> nemo: and perhaps also set layout.frame_rate to some small value, like 10 ?
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84. # [00:38] <mbrubeck> Nice, bug 928423 gave us our biggest Dromaeo DOM improvement in a long time
85. # [00:39] <Hughman> smaug: on the topic of slow animation frame rate on background tabs, is it a known issue that the animations on popups get slowed also?
86. # [00:39] <mbrubeck> *and* added to our winning streak on Dromaeo CSS
87. # [00:39] <nemo> smaug: hm. I'll try all 3 of those next time. is there any way to do it from a commandline?
88. # [00:39] <@smaug> nemo: that I don't know.
89. # [00:40] <@smaug> Hughman: what kinds of popups?
90. # [00:40] <nemo> maybe something w/ -url...
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92. # [00:40] <nemo> hm. -chrome
93. # [00:40] <@smaug> nemo: hmm, --chrome javascript: ...
94. # [00:41] <nemo> ooh. -remote
95. # [00:41] <nemo> even better
96. # [00:41] <nemo> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Command_Line_Options#-remote_remote_command
97. # [00:41] <nemo> oh. no. -remote sucks
98. # [00:41] <Hughman> smaug: the one I noticed on was when I popped out the gmail chat then used another tab while chatting in the popup
99. # [00:41] <nemo> ok. --chrome javascript maybe
100. # [00:42] <Hughman> smaug: the emoticons were animating really slowly
101. # [00:42] <@smaug> never heard of such problem
102. # [00:42] <@smaug> please file a bug
103. # [00:42] <@smaug> sounds like a animated img problem
104. # [00:43] <Hughman> smaug: ok, i will when i get a chance. thanks
105. # [00:43] <@smaug> (driving their updates from the original window or something)
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146. # [01:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f94365dffb6f - Ralph Giles - Bug 914963 - Remove spurious defined(@array). r=gps
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169. # [01:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88c6e28f4acd - Mike Hommey - Bug 930454 - Remove --with-android-platform. r=ted
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171. # [01:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/748e46ad4ab3 - Mike Hommey - Bug 930380 - Fix host source rules when path contains a directory. r=gps
172. # [01:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5dd08c88e328 - Mike Hommey - Bug 929905 - Consolidate sources in moz.build. r=gps
173. # [01:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/345cb5e077b1 - Mike Hommey - Bug 930380 - Make sure *SOURCES only point to existing files. r=gps
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189. # [01:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/748863923653 - Mike Hommey - Bug 930350 - Fix --enable-ipdl-tests build. r=gps. DONTBUILD because NPOTB
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207. # [01:55] <luke> requesting approval to land bug 929830, test-only change
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214. # [01:59] <philor> luke: is it a test-only change for the better?
215. # [01:59] <luke> philor: yep, it disables a test in debug
216. # [01:59] <luke> which takes forever
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218. # [02:00] <philor> luke: woo, a=philor!
219. # [02:00] * philor loves disabling tests, second only to actually removing them
220. # [02:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/27e42f27f03a - Luke Wagner - Bug 929830 - disable spread-call-maxarg.js in all debug builds because it often times out (r=jorendorff,a=philor)
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226. # [02:05] <+benjamin> blrg, blrg
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228. # [02:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb81545460c4 - Ryan Jones - Bug 355930 - Remove unused message JSMSG_NAME_AFTER_FOR_PAREN. r=brendan a=trivial
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230. # [02:06] <gwagner> huh whats going on with b2g-inbound?
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232. # [02:06] <glandium> gwagner: read status: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=B2g-Inbound
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234. # [02:07] <gwagner> is it weekend yet?
235. # [02:07] <fabrice> gwagner: you didn't get the memo? mfbt!
236. # [02:07] <+benjamin> thursday, night man!
237. # [02:07] <glandium> a=trivial....
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239. # [02:08] <gwagner> so can I land bug 925111?
240. # [02:08] <glandium> famous last words
241. # [02:08] <mrbkap> fabrice: Now that gwagner's a mangager, all memos that don't have the proper cover letter get sent to /dev/null, so no he probably didn't :P
242. # [02:08] <mrbkap> manager*
243. # [02:08] <+benjamin> efficient!
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246. # [02:09] <gwagner> I thought I don't have to read emails any more
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248. # [02:10] <gwagner> so who is giving approval to land bug 925111. otherwise profiling b2g is broken because the gh pieces already landed
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252. # [02:11] <philor> gwagner: just land it
253. # [02:11] <gwagner> k
254. # [02:11] <gwagner> do I need a=?
255. # [02:12] <philor> 45 seconds
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257. # [02:12] <philor> I would be a terrible parent
258. # [02:12] <philor> OPEN
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260. # [02:13] <gwagner> done
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290. # [02:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/712758b52e76 - Drew Willcoxon - Bug 925621 - Let startProfiling take a pid so the content process can be profiled. r=sfink
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294. # [02:41] <jorendorff> Scrolling past the top or bottom of the document causes things to antialias in a funny way in Nightly on Mac; is it filed?
295. # [02:41] <jorendorff> (sorry past)
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298. # [02:41] <jorendorff> not just text, either
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311. # [02:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a70124509785 - Drew Willcoxon - Back out 712758b52e76 (Bug 925621) for build bustage. r=backout
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330. # [03:06] <romaxa> glandium: yep
331. # [03:06] <glandium> romaxa: do you have a bug on file for the moc_ problem?
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366. # [03:30] <tbsaunde> nbp: hahah, I guess I should have been more precise, I meant tests run by releng
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371. # [03:34] <nbp> tbsaunde: ;)
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373. # [03:34] <nbp> tbsaunde: at the same time releng convert gaia (git) into gaia-central, so I think we already rely on this tools for testing ;)
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375. # [03:36] <tbsaunde> nbp: oh, sure I'm not argueing no converted repos have tests run, just that releng won't be pulling a git mozilla-central for anything any time soon
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377. # [03:38] <nbp> tbsaunde: In any case, I am happy to don't have to think about this anymore and to be able to open bugs if things go wrong.
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382. # [03:42] <gandalf> nbp: how's prefs.js reseted on every b2g restart?
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402. # [04:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a25982be666c - Stephen Pohl - Bug 930768: Backout 6155ea7e8dea for causing pages to refresh (instead of using bfcache) when swiping back and forth on OSX. r=smichaud
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410. # [04:09] <nbp> gandalf: I have no idea, so now I am using the user.js (/system/b2g/defaults/pref/user.js)
411. # [04:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f266795178da - Jesse Ruderman - crashtest for bug 926619
412. # [04:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c91ae6b8208c - Karl Tomlinson - b=898291 erase azimuth/elevation history when reset()ing HRTFPanner r=ehsan
413. # [04:09] <gandalf> ok
414. # [04:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/578c80c21547 - Karl Tomlinson - b=898291 skip HRTF panner processing when input has been null long enough for output to be null r=ehsan
415. # [04:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/72efd8463aa0 - Karl Tomlinson - b=923301 use MediaStreamGraph to dispatch the other PlayingRefChangeHandlers too r=trivial
416. # [04:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54c627598be1 - Karl Tomlinson - b=926619 check for non-AudioNodeStreams in MediaStream cycles r=padenot
417. # [04:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8fe38e7b4f7 - Karl Tomlinson - b=924288 continue producing BiquadFilter sound output after input becomes null r=ehsan
418. # [04:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/52abf1613764 - Karl Tomlinson - b=898291 remove unused PannerNodeEngine model type variables r=ehsan
419. # [04:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b47c1bf96830 - Karl Tomlinson - mochitest for bug 898291
420. # [04:10] <gandalf> nbp: are you testing on keon?
421. # [04:10] <nbp> gandalf: I am trying to profile, but currently without success :/ The IonCompartment does not seems to be used anymore so there might be something else which is taking these 20ms.
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423. # [04:11] <gandalf> yeah, I'm trying to verify if your 20ms is the same as my 60ms
424. # [04:11] <gandalf> or is there something else going on
425. # [04:11] <nbp> gandalf: on an Unagi with already some patching to move the IonCompartment init out of the path of baseline.
426. # [04:11] <gandalf> ah
427. # [04:11] <gandalf> ok
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430. # [04:12] <nbp> gandalf: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3329377
431. # [04:12] <gandalf> do you want me to test with this, without this or both? :)
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433. # [04:13] <nbp> gandalf: no.
434. # [04:14] <nbp> gandalf: just in case you want to see if it also goes down for you.
435. # [04:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5fa4120ce92 - Steven Michaud - Bug 929686 - Stopgap patch to allow building of CoreLocation stuff with 10.9 SDK. r=spohl
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449. # [04:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31e679e3e4d7 - EKR - Bug 930651 - Increase logging level for periodic A/V counters. r= abr
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454. # [04:27] <romaxa> glandium: no
455. # [04:27] <romaxa> glandium: I found it works for all places except chromium
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458. # [04:27] <romaxa> glandium: because in chromium moc_ files are located in sub-sub directory
459. # [04:28] <romaxa> glandium: so moving moc_ file into sub-directory make python/mozbuild/mozbuild/frontend/emitter.py happy, but moc_ rule does not generate files
460. # [04:29] <romaxa> glandium: moving moc_* into Makefile.in
461. # [04:30] <romaxa> glandium: I just got it properly sorted out... so will create bug
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500. # [05:04] <jcranmer> >_>
501. # [05:04] <jcranmer> (var ? do_check_true : do_check_false)(var2);
502. # [05:04] <jcranmer> hasn't someone heard of do_check_eq?
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508. # [05:07] <reuben> hahah
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522. # [05:14] <jcranmer> sheriffing is not fun work
523. # [05:15] <jcranmer> especially when most of the work is figuring out which mozilla-central change in the past 48 hours broke a test
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528. # [05:17] <Mook> you mean it's not just backing out all changes within those 48 hours? :p
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531. # [05:18] <jcranmer> let me rephrase
532. # [05:19] <jcranmer> which mozilla-central change broke a mozilla-central test that only shows up when Thunderbird runs those tests
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541. # [05:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/87a32e0b05ba - Yura Zenevich - Bug 924896 - exposing the text input type in the accessible's attributes. r=surkov
542. # [05:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53746157d20f - Yura Zenevich - Bug 924896 - [AccessFu] Exposing the type attribute for entries such as search, url, tel, etc. r=eeejay
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561. # [05:44] <Tomcat|afk> good morning
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567. # [05:47] <philor> morning
568. # [05:48] <philor> karl: or perhaps I'm looking for an nsThreadPool hacker
569. # [05:48] * philor cues up the Jaws soundtrack
570. # [05:48] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=29635989&full=1&branch=mozilla-inbound#error1
571. # [05:49] <philor> and 50 or 100 like it, since last night, spread across at least three bugs that I know of, plus multiple unstarred ones
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574. # [05:49] <karl> philor: looking
575. # [05:51] <karl> philor: are they all mac or all webgl?
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577. # [05:51] <philor> karl: all mac
578. # [05:51] <philor> webgl is rare
579. # [05:52] <philor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=930495 is one of the bugs, looking for the others that I've temporarily mislaid
580. # [05:52] <philor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=0x50ebf&list_id=8350520
581. # [05:53] <philor> (and there are more tests than just the ones named in the summaries of each)
582. # [05:53] <karl> ok, thanks
583. # [05:53] <Tomcat> yeah not sure whats going on there
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586. # [05:54] <karl> i'm looking at stacks
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593. # [06:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb2a481fb65f - Dan Gohman - Bug 930699 - IonMonkey: Eliminate some unnecessary NaN checks from range analysis checking. r=nbp
594. # [06:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/253b0a696a1d - Dan Gohman - Bug 930720 - SpiderMonkey: Fix a harmless off-by-one error. r=njn
595. # [06:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4dfcb90f5fcd - Dan Gohman - Bug 930702 - IonMonkey: Implement range analysis for boolean constants. r=nbp
596. # [06:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f030f97fcf10 - Dan Gohman - Bug 875656 - IonMonkey: Juggle registers around to reduce the number of temporaries needed by LConcat. r=bhackett
597. # [06:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7903012822eb - Dan Gohman - Bug 930699 - IonMonkey: Refine the range analysis for LMinMaxD's NaN check. r=nbp
598. # [06:01] <karl> anyone know why _PR_CreateThread is in libnss3.dylib? is nspr linked into nss?
599. # [06:02] <@khuey> yeah
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626. # [06:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f3d1761b059 - Andrew Quartey - Bug 882665 - Part a: Add readiness state attribute to text track. r= rillian, khuey
627. # [06:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53dd3aa9be7e - Andrew Quartey - Bug 882665 - Part b: Add list of pending text tracks to TextTrackManager. r=rillian, khuey
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645. # [06:35] <@njn> Quartey is burning Bg
646. # [06:36] <karl> philor: shall i back out on inbound, or is it better to back out on central?
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648. # [06:36] <karl> philor: i don't know what is happening, but let's see if we can make the crashes go away
649. # [06:37] <@njn> Quartey's red looks like infra/clobber/something, rather than his fault?
650. # [06:37] <drexler> njn: that's odd. it just passed on try
651. # [06:38] <philor> karl: I'd say central
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653. # [06:38] <karl> ok
654. # [06:38] <@njn> drexler: yeah, the patches seem innocuous and unrelated to the bustage
655. # [06:38] <philor> karl: fun fact: you may have very nearly eliminated the hangs of bug 921635 by turning them into crashes :)
656. # [06:38] <@njn> drexler: try does clobber builds, so it could just be a needs-clobber issue with incremental builds
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658. # [06:39] <drexler> njn: yeah. most likely.
659. # [06:40] <karl> philor: what makes you think they are related?
660. # [06:40] <@njn> drexler: I triggered a rebuild of the red B2g
661. # [06:40] <@njn> *Bg
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663. # [06:40] <drexler> njn: thx.
664. # [06:40] <philor> karl: the simultaneous appearance of the crash and disappearance of the hang, and the fact that the crash is often in the same dom-level* tests
665. # [06:41] <karl> oh
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667. # [06:42] <karl> macos oom crashes usually look different, right?
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670. # [06:42] <philor> not sure I know
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681. # [06:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5a9ac6fed6ff - Karl Tomlinson - back out 242bb2279283 from bug 928222 on suspicion of causing bugs 930495 930479 930428
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691. # [06:53] <glob> reuben, for censorship on bugzilla, we use a library to do it, and it catches words which are less strong in some cultures than others
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693. # [06:53] <glob> it's mainly there to catch trolls .. only someone without canconfirm will get hit by it
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696. # [06:55] <jcranmer> IIRC, it filters any text by someone without canconfirm to everybody else
697. # [06:55] <jcranmer> except to the person who wrote the text in the first place
698. # [06:55] <jcranmer> or something complicated like that
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703. # [06:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c79088ab4e0c - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 929826 - Improve about:memory's UI for the multi-process case. r=johns.
704. # [06:57] <glob> jcranmer, that's correct
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709. # [07:01] <@njn> glob: that's pretty ****ing clever
710. # [07:02] <jcranmer> so the people who ****ing like to make ****ing comments about how ****ing **** we are can't tell that their **** is being ****ing ignored
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712. # [07:03] <Unfocused> shouldn't we be ignore people that say fuck a lot, rather than people that do staring?
713. # [07:04] * philor stares
714. # [07:04] <@dolske> fark.com had (has?) some amusing filters that transform poor langage.
715. # [07:04] <Mook> ... until somebody quotes them
716. # [07:04] <Unfocused> er, starring
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718. # [07:04] <Unfocused> gr, that was a typo, not poor spelling
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720. # [07:04] <WeirdAl> hey Unfocused - you're one of two people I was looking for :)
721. # [07:04] <@dolske> I particularly remember one changing the N-work to "attractive and successful african american". Made trolls a bit foolish to read. :D
722. # [07:05] <Unfocused> uh oh
723. # [07:05] <@dolske> but I think ghosting comments is overall more successful.
724. # [07:05] <jcranmer> maybe we should kick people who use incorrect grammar
725. # [07:05] <WeirdAl> Unfocused: no, this is harmless: I'm wondering if there's any UI widgets for Log.jsm
726. # [07:05] <@dolske> jcranmer: your onto something! its a good idea!
727. # [07:06] <WeirdAl> I'd rather not reinvent the wheel :)
728. # [07:06] <Unfocused> oh :) there's the browser console, but other than that, nothing
729. # [07:06] <WeirdAl> that's what I thought...
730. # [07:06] <WeirdAl> so, I'm gonna build something for that :)
731. # [07:06] <Unfocused> cool :)
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733. # [07:07] <jcranmer> so, how many bugs do you think we have on "we want a better logging facility for Gecko"?
734. # [07:07] <Unfocused> jcranmer: one less now
735. # [07:07] <WeirdAl> jcranmer: hehe, well, it came up at the Summit in SC too...
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738. # [07:07] <jcranmer> and what percentage of those have wip patches on them?
739. # [07:08] <WeirdAl> "less"
740. # [07:08] <jcranmer> about 100%, I'd say
741. # [07:08] <Unfocused> if they target JS, WONTFIX - they can add functionality to Log.jsm instead
742. # [07:09] <jcranmer> some of them are "grand unified theory of logging"
743. # [07:09] <Unfocused> and if we wait for that to be done in one big patch, we'll still be waiting in another 10 years
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745. # [07:10] <jcranmer> well, step 1 of C++ logging gets caught up in the endless API debate
746. # [07:10] <WeirdAl> Unfocused: and for C++ targets, we can introduce a component that points to the JS code
747. # [07:10] <jcranmer> particularly over printf-or-iostream-style logging
748. # [07:10] * Unfocused admits to caring less about c++
749. # [07:11] * WeirdAl needs to get back to prototyping XUL :)
750. # [07:11] <jcranmer> I might be minded to actually try to push a patch through for C++ logging
751. # [07:12] <jcranmer> if I do, it's scope will be limited to "NSPR-ish logging without NSPR"
752. # [07:12] <WeirdAl> jcranmer: well, printf logging and stream logging are both supported by Log.jsm (DumpAppender, StorageStreamAppender respectively)
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754. # [07:13] <WeirdAl> they even took care to handle Unicode correctly (which pleasantly surprised me)
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757. # [07:14] <jcranmer> that's not what I meant by printf-or-iostream-style
758. # [07:14] <WeirdAl> oh
759. # [07:14] <jcranmer> the question is should it be Log("%d\n", somevar); or Log() << somevar;
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763. # [07:16] <WeirdAl> TIMTOWTDI...SJPO
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765. # [07:16] <jcranmer> ?
766. # [07:16] <WeirdAl> There Is More Than One Way To Do It...
767. # [07:16] <WeirdAl> So Just Pick One
768. # [07:17] <jcranmer> if I do it, I'll say "screw it" and do pritnf logging
769. # [07:17] <jcranmer> it's easier
770. # [07:17] <WeirdAl> make it work well enough, and anyone who disagrees can invent their own and try to get that past reviews & module ownership
771. # [07:15] <WeirdAl> now... for that other person I'm seeking to ask a question...
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773. # [07:15] <WeirdAl> -- and for the record, I'm not sure who that is...
774. # [07:17] <WeirdAl> I've been thinking for a while about building widgets that don't necessarily rely on native C++ code. SVG+XBL was my first attempt, but I'm wondering if it'd be practical to consider just straight Canvas-based widgets.
775. # [07:18] <WeirdAl> (canvas in XUL... yes, I am that crazy)
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783. # [07:23] <WeirdAl> wondering if anyone thinks that might be a good idea
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861. # [08:18] <nthomas> Is there a known memory leak in Nightly that shows up as a large heap-unclassified in about:memory ? I've left 2013-10-24 open on Mac for 2 hours and it's gone from 680M to 3G Real Mem (as reported by Activity Monitor); heap-unclassified is 3754M
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866. # [08:20] <nthomas> GC & CC don't touch it
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869. # [08:23] <@khuey> njn: ^
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901. # [08:47] <nthomas> stable memory usage in safe mode. Out of safe mode there's reproducible increase with my main profile, trying a new profile
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910. # [08:57] <@njn> nthomas: nope
911. # [08:57] <@njn> nthomas: as in, it's not known
912. # [08:57] <nthomas> ok
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914. # [08:58] <nthomas> new profile is pretty static too, which leaves me with bisecting my set of tabs and addons :-S
915. # [08:58] <nthomas> maybe later
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991. # [09:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1578a4fc86d - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 929021. Skip calling GetFrameBoundsForTransform when we don't need it. r=heycam
992. # [09:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44de05b3239b - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 261037. Support scrolled fieldsets. r=mats
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1034. # [10:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ef91147d327 - Jonathan Kew - bug 930420 - respect any transform on the glyph element itself when calculating SVG glyph extents. r=heycam
1035. # [10:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f44c7313305e - Jonathan Kew - bug 930420 - reftest for SVG glyph extents with a transform on the glyph element. r=heycam
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1069. # [10:36] <bholley> glandium: ping
1070. # [10:36] <glandium> bholley: pong
1071. # [10:37] <bholley> glandium: so, I've been debugging this crash with this guy on bugzilla
1072. # [10:37] <bholley> glandium: the bug relates to clobbered static memory in the JS engine
1073. # [10:37] <bholley> I got him to set a watchpoint to figure out where that happens
1074. # [10:37] <bholley> and this is the stack
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1076. # [10:37] <bholley> https://bug920200.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=821885
1077. # [10:37] <bholley> glandium: he's using some kind of source-based distro
1078. # [10:37] <bholley> which is clearly what's causing this problem
1079. # [10:38] <bholley> glandium: oddly, his other backtraces should code executing in the libmozjs that ships with xulrunner
1080. # [10:38] <bholley> glandium: but here in the memory clobbering, gtk is somehow triggering a differently-versioned system install of libmozjs
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1082. # [10:38] <bholley> glandium: which is clobbering the memory of the other libmozjs
1083. # [10:38] <bholley> or something
1084. # [10:39] <bholley> I don't really get it
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1086. # [10:39] <glandium> bholley: so, in theory, we made recent libxul builds permeable to these problems, but maybe his dynamic linker is not being helpful
1087. # [10:40] <glandium> bholley: (and 24 is supposed to have those protections)
1088. # [10:40] <bholley> glandium: what is the problem, exactly?
1089. # [10:40] <glandium> bholley: and yes, that gtk can load a system libmozjs is kind of expected
1090. # [10:40] <glandium> one module i know uses a system libmozjs to handle proxy .pac files
1091. # [10:40] <bholley> glandium: in gtk?
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1093. # [10:41] <glandium> not directly in gtk, some module it loads, iirc
1094. # [10:41] <glandium> but there shouldn't be symbol clashing between both because we're using symbol versions
1095. # [10:42] <bholley> glandium: what is _GLOBAL__sub_I_jsproxy.cpp ?
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1097. # [10:42] <bholley> glandium: is that something that sets up static memory for that file?
1098. # [10:42] <glandium> bholley: it's a static initializer
1099. # [10:43] <glandium> for global variables
1100. # [10:43] <bholley> glandium: I see. So it should be initializing a separate region of memory for system libmozjs
1101. # [10:43] <glandium> yes
1102. # [10:43] <bholley> glandium: but for some reason it's trying to munge ourse
1103. # [10:43] <bholley> *ours
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1105. # [10:43] <glandium> is it crashing there or is that a more or less random stack trace?
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1107. # [10:44] <bholley> glandium: that's where the memory is clobbered
1108. # [10:44] <bholley> glandium: it crashes later on when spidermonkey tries to use that memory
1109. # [10:44] <bholley> glandium: it's a function pointer
1110. # [10:44] <bholley> glandium: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920200
1111. # [10:45] <bholley> glandium: it's a function pointer that should always be zero
1112. # [10:45] <bholley> glandium: but it's not zero, which causes him to crash at startup
1113. # [10:45] <bholley> glandium: so I got him to verify that, on XPCOM init, it is in fact zero
1114. # [10:45] <bholley> glandium: and then set a watchpoint on the memory
1115. # [10:45] <bholley> glandium: which leads us here
1116. # [10:48] <glandium> let me comment on the bug
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1118. # [10:49] <bholley> glandium: great, thanks
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1131. # [10:55] <past> BenWa: ping
1132. # [10:55] <glandium> bholley: aha, i think i know what the problem is
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1134. # [10:56] <bholley> glandium: \o/
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1139. # [10:58] <BenWa> past: pong
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1142. # [10:59] <past> BenWa: hi! I have a question about markers in the profiler
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1144. # [10:59] <BenWa> ok
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1147. # [11:00] <past> I see that a sample is associated with an array of markers now, whereas it was associated with a single string before, correct?
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1149. # [11:00] <BenWa> Yes
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1151. # [11:00] <past> in that case, it looks like markers represent events that occurred at the time the sample was taken
1152. # [11:00] <BenWa> past: The marker can be any data object that can following the thread rules (be saved from the main thread)
1153. # [11:00] <glandium> bholley: commented
1154. # [11:01] <BenWa> Yes but I need to make samples seperate from samples and just carry their own timestamps
1155. # [11:01] <glandium> bholley: makes sense?
1156. # [11:01] <BenWa> really they're not related to a sample but something that occured between two samples
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1159. # [11:01] <bholley> glandium: yeah. Is there anything we can do about it?
1160. # [11:02] <past> BenWa: I was thinking of displaying markers as vertical bars in the graph with an associated tooltip or legend, but if more than one is associated with a sample, this doesn't look like it'll work
1161. # [11:02] <BenWa> past: The UI already displays them as bar
1162. # [11:02] <BenWa> Well cleopatra does
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1165. # [11:02] <glandium> bholley: not for 24, obviously, but if this is confirmed to be the issue, what we can do is use different symbol versions for FF --with-shared-js and standalone js builds
1166. # [11:02] <BenWa> past: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10523664/Screenshots/ay.png
1167. # [11:02] <BenWa> It's a bit noisy but its usable
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1169. # [11:03] <past> BenWa: right, so the bar has a start and end time, but I got the impression that some marker events start in one sample and end in another?
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1171. # [11:03] <bholley> glandium: ok. And this would only affect linux, right?
1172. # [11:03] <glandium> bholley: yep
1173. # [11:03] <bholley> glandium: because the crash site is the same as another crash we're watching on crashstats, but that happens on windows
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1175. # [11:03] <bholley> so maybe I care less at this point
1176. # [11:03] <BenWa> past: The paint marker do have an interval, but most don't
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1178. # [11:03] <past> BenWa: is that the latest add-on code? I tried to rebuild but can't
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1180. # [11:04] <glandium> bholley: well, in pure theory, it could happen on any os, but it's pretty rare to have a system libmozjs library on windows and mac
1181. # [11:04] <BenWa> past: The collection stuff still has a few things in my local queue, waiting for a review to land it
1182. # [11:04] <BenWa> but the paint marker stuff is landed
1183. # [11:04] <glandium> bholley: but who knows what crapware are doing these days
1184. # [11:04] <BenWa> but needs OMTC enabled
1185. # [11:04] <bholley> glandium: this is the crash report: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/ff594bbd-2560-48d8-b863-457ba2130314
1186. # [11:04] <bholley> glandium: for windows
1187. # [11:05] <past> BenWa: the xpi in your github repo hits an assertion for me, but it's 2 minor versions behind. Could you maybe upload the latest xpi version to try and play with?
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1189. # [11:06] <glandium> bholley: it doesn't look like there is another mozjs loaded
1190. # [11:09] <BenWa> past: It works fine for me on nightly. it's refusing to install it for you?
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1192. # [11:09] <past> BenWa: it installs fine, but I get: Assertion failure: pt && pt->associatedWith(rt), at /Users/past/src/fx-team/js/src/vm/Runtime.cpp:810
1193. # [11:10] <past> (fx-team tip debug build)
1194. # [11:10] <BenWa> past: ohh the profiler isn't going to work in #define debug
1195. # [11:10] <past> ah, ok
1196. # [11:10] <BenWa> I have a bug filed hoping the js team will look at it
1197. # [11:10] <BenWa> I haven't seen any profile in practice but these assertions are hit
1198. # [11:10] <past> I'll try an opt build then
1199. # [11:10] <BenWa> past: Maybe you can just remove the assertion but you hsouldn't profile debugging code
1200. # [11:11] <past> BenWa: yeah, no problem, I'll just use opt builds for profiling
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1207. # [11:20] <past> BenWa: what does the RD marker stand for?
1208. # [11:20] <BenWa> past: refresh driver
1209. # [11:20] <past> ah, thanks
1210. # [11:20] <BenWa> past: trying to keep the profiles a bit smaller internally
1211. # [11:21] <BenWa> past: I'll rehide them by default
1212. # [11:21] <BenWa> I was just debugging them
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1216. # [11:22] <BenWa> past: robcee: You might be interested to know that I've got a working implementation of style/layout causes capturing: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10523664/Screenshots/az.png
1217. # [11:22] <BenWa> It's been very helpful to debug perf bugs on b2g caused by long style flushes
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1225. # [11:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0a669819300 - Ben Turner - Bug 929529 - 'Enable IndexedDB profiling tracers by default'. r=BenWa.
1226. # [11:29] <BenWa> Jerry: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3331242
1227. # [11:29] <past> BenWa: I was just ooking at that, it's really amazing
1228. # [11:29] <Jerry> BenWa, got it
1229. # [11:29] <BenWa> past: Just need to get a good UI for it, it's pretty terrible at the moment :)
1230. # [11:30] <past> heh
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1234. # [11:35] <Optimizer> what is wrong here in my failign build : https://www.dropbox.com/s/3c5w160fxg7yea5/Screenshot%202013-10-24%2011.04.09.png
1235. # [11:35] <Optimizer> errr
1236. # [11:35] <Optimizer> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3331275
1237. # [11:36] <Gijs> Optimizer: known issue, fixed on inbound, probably merged ~1h ago to m-c
1238. # [11:36] * Gijs finds the bug
1239. # [11:36] <Optimizer> oh, so when does it come to fx-team ?
1240. # [11:37] <Gijs> Optimizer: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/592f54e43014, bug 929983
1241. # [11:37] <@gavin> can anyone else load http://mozillafestival.org/ ?
1242. # [11:37] <Gijs> when the sheriffs merge m-c back to fx-team, I guess
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1245. # [11:37] <Gijs> in the meantime you could apply the patch in that bug
1246. # [11:38] <edmorley> Gijs: lots of merge conflicts across fx-team/b2g-inbound/inbound at the moment, hence the delay
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1249. # [11:39] <Gijs> edmorley: yeah, I saw your backout on fx-team, no worries, thank you (all) for shepherding us through the last few days before uplift :)
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1256. # [11:51] <ewong> gavin wfm
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1259. # [11:51] <@gavin> yeah it was my fault
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1299. # [12:04] <@khuey> dholbert: ping?
1300. # [12:04] <dholbert> khuey, pong
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1303. # [12:05] <@khuey> dholbert: if you see bent tell him I want to talk to him
1304. # [12:05] <dholbert> k
1305. # [12:05] <@khuey> ty
1306. # [12:05] <dholbert> It seems like some substantial fraction of the time, you're hunting bent
1307. # [12:06] <dholbert> :)
1308. # [12:06] <@khuey> dholbert: yeah, it's a lot harder to borrow him since I changed from being 10 feet away to 10000 km away
1309. # [12:06] <jdm> he's the windmill to khuey's quixote
1310. # [12:06] <dholbert> khuey, message conveyed
1311. # [12:06] <@khuey> dholbert: excellent
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1313. # [12:07] <Ms2ger> There we have him
1314. # [12:07] * glazou moves to 200 megabit symetric upload/download at his office... wooot :-)
1315. # [12:07] * @khuey would settle for working wifi oin ours
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1317. # [12:08] <Ms2ger> Start working for Samsung? ;)
1318. # [12:09] <glazou> yeah, the VPN was using too much of my 2Mb bandwidth, I needed to upgrade, and Orange fibered ny office building a few months ago...
1319. # [12:09] <glazou> so basically *100 for downloads and *780 for uploads ; I think I will appreciate it
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1364. # [12:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba27b9e35d13 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 929730 - IonMonkey: Only report message 'offthread logging is impossible' when trying to log, r=jandem
1365. # [12:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86650bc9c33d - Hannes Verschore - Bug 877936 - IonMonkey: Disable compilation and inlining when too many arguments are specified, r=dvander
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1394. # [12:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bent: ping
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1397. # [12:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: seems inbound has a probem
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1399. # [12:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> problem
1400. # [12:56] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: just back out
1401. # [12:56] <edmorley> :-)
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1403. # [12:56] <edmorley> no in-place fixes in general, especially leading up to merge day :-)
1404. # [12:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> will backout a0a669819300
1405. # [12:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
1406. # [12:57] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: the quantity of failures on the push makes it clear that this wasn't tested before pushing, so I'd have very low confidence in an in-place fix anyway
1407. # [12:58] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: tree closed
1408. # [12:58] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: want me to back out, or have you got it?
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1414. # [13:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: got it, this time with magic words :)
1415. # [13:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> come on firebot :)
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1417. # [13:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4bec45755a43 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset a0a669819300 (bug 929529) for failed Mochitests/Crashes on an CLOSED TREE
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1430. # [13:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b09700a25a86 - Olli Pettay - Bug 930498 - BarProps should be got from the inner window not from the outer, r=peterv
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1438. # [13:19] <Optimizer> sheriffs .. when do you plan to merge mc to fx-team ?
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1440. # [13:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> waiting on green builds after the merges to mc
1441. # [13:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> for the merges back
1442. # [13:20] <Optimizer> ok cool
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1445. # [13:22] <edmorley> Optimizer, Tomcat|sheriffduty: just pushed (was looking green enough to rule out merge issues :-))
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1448. # [13:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: cool!
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1455. # [13:33] <bent> Tomcat|sheriffduty, hi
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1459. # [13:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey bent , sorry had to backout your push
1460. # [13:39] <bent> oh, that's ok
1461. # [13:39] <bent> thanks
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1507. # [14:10] <robcee> BenWa: yes I am interested!
1508. # [14:10] <robcee> thanks :)
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1513. # [14:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30d696088b00 - Dan Minor - Bug 929569 - jsshell package needs msvcp dll; r=glandium
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1536. # [14:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1ecd3ac0f71 - kli@mozilla.com - Bug 927291 - Fix system has no response if sdcard is full during download. r=jduell
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1538. # [14:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d6c5cbcc213 - Jonas Finnemann Jensen - Bug 902587 - Part 2A: Refactor late-write-checks as client of IO Interposer r=BenWa
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1555. # [14:42] <BenWa> Jerry: http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/signal.7.html
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1561. # [14:48] <Gijs> So let's say I'm in xpcom/components and I've been told not to use nsMemory::Alloc but NS_Alloc instead. Is there an equivalent for nsMemory::Clone that I should be using, too? MXR says NS_Clone doesn't exist, so...
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1566. # [14:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e685ff7fa126 - Simone Carletti - Bug 927072 - Add Cupcake to PSL
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1568. # [14:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/359ff41b3cd1 - Cykesiopka - Bug 914270 - Part 2: Manual moves. r=joey
1569. # [14:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e43b02e631f0 - Cykesiopka - Bug 914270 - Part 1: Simple/Automated moves. r=joey
1570. # [14:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7195e4f5c68c - Cykesiopka - Bug 914270 - Part 3: Disallow in Makefiles. r=joey
1571. # [14:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae8e54262630 - Garrett Robinson - Bug 909029 - Fix incorrect parsing of CSP source list due to early return
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1574. # [14:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/03ffffc0bff4 - Nils Maier - Bug 929297 - Part 2: Avoid calling amIAddonManager in reporters off the main process.
1575. # [14:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a74f511a4d99 - Nils Maier - Bug 929297 - Part 1: AddonManager should refuse to run in child processes.
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1599. # [15:00] <Ms2ger> edmorley, bustage
1600. # [15:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> where :)
1601. # [15:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> oh
1602. # [15:00] <edmorley> Ms2ger: ty
1603. # [15:01] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: got it
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1605. # [15:01] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: ok cool
1606. # [15:02] <edmorley> Ms2ger: would you suggest backing out 7195e4f5c68c and just getting them to fix up the new instances first, rather than whole thing?
1607. # [15:02] * Ms2ger looks at the actual error
1608. # [15:02] <edmorley> e:\builds\moz2_slave\m-in-w32-000000000000000000000\build\js\src\config\config.mk:78:4:Variable FORCE_STATIC_LIB is defined in e:/builds/moz2_slave/m-in-w32-000000000000000000000/build/obj-firefox/js/src/Makefile. It should only be defined in moz.build files
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1611. # [15:03] <Ms2ger> edmorley, actually, clobber
1612. # [15:03] <Ms2ger> Bug 852814
1613. # [15:03] <edmorley> Ms2ger: ah
1614. # [15:04] <edmorley> Ms2ger: ah of course
1615. # [15:04] * Ms2ger shakes his fist at the build system
1616. # [15:04] <edmorley> and reviewers
1617. # [15:04] <edmorley> :-)
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1620. # [15:06] <Optimizer> not at the assignee ?
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1622. # [15:06] <Gijs> glandium: ping
1623. # [15:07] <glandium> Gijs: pong
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1625. # [15:07] <edmorley> Optimizer: the reviewer was a build peer
1626. # [15:07] <Optimizer> oh :D
1627. # [15:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b35cd52a1f40 - Ed Morley - Bug 914270 - Followup: Touch CLOBBER file since moving variables to moz.build always requires a CLOBBER :-(
1628. # [15:08] <Gijs> glandium: hi! I'm trying to finish off the patch for bug 890545. In his feedback on my initial patch, bsmedberg suggested using an nsIArray of nsIURI instead. But the patch is in xpcom/components... surely I can't rely on the io svc from there? :(
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1633. # [15:09] <Pike> I wonder why I'm getting a full update on today's nightly
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1635. # [15:09] <glazou> is Anthony Ricaud here? Not sure "Rik" is him
1636. # [15:09] <Gijs> glandium: in which case, does it make sense to use an nsIArray (if so, what should be in it? nsISupportsString or something?), or should I continue with the approach in the original patch?
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1639. # [15:09] <Rik> glazou: it's me
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1643. # [15:10] <glazou> Rik: see /query
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1647. # [15:11] <glandium> Gijs: i'd say nsIURI is probably fishy, but a nsTArray of FileLocation should work.
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1650. # [15:12] <gmcs> HI... I wanted to implement functionality like certutil.exe in my application
1651. # [15:12] <Gijs> glandium: err, as an idl-exposed method?
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1653. # [15:12] <Gijs> s/idl-exposed/scriptable idl-exposed/
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1655. # [15:12] <gmcs> Can any one help how i can do that ?
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1657. # [15:12] <glandium> Gijs: ah
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1659. # [15:13] <glandium> Gijs: I wouldn't expect nsIArray to be a problem
1660. # [15:13] <Gijs> glandium: right, but then what should I be putting in it?
1661. # [15:14] <gmcs> Any one is there who can help me ?
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1665. # [15:14] <glandium> Gijs: ah, FileLocation won't work in idl
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1668. # [15:15] <glandium> Gijs: actually, where is that going to be called from?
1669. # [15:15] <Gijs> glandium: yeah, not an interface. I could create one, but that seems unnecessary considering the scope of the patch.
1670. # [15:15] <Gijs> glandium: add-on(s), mostly. This API used to exist and then at some point it got refactored out.
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1672. # [15:16] <Gijs> s/mostly/only/ I suppose :)
1673. # [15:16] <glandium> Gijs: you're probably good to use nsIURI then
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1675. # [15:16] <Gijs> glandium: hm, ok... just include nsIURI, and NetUtil.h for NS_NewURI?
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1677. # [15:17] <Gijs> I mean, it simplifies the implementation, so if it works, that sounds great... I'm worried about dependencies about which I know very little, normally being concerned with front-end only. Sorry for the stupid questions :)
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1684. # [15:18] <glandium> Gijs: the io service should be registered and initialized well before you'll be calling that function
1685. # [15:18] <Gijs> Sure.
1686. # [15:19] <glandium> Gijs: while you're there, there's an apparently useless nsIURI.h include in FileLocation.h
1687. # [15:20] <Gijs> haha
1688. # [15:20] <Gijs> alright, I can remove that... :)
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1695. # [15:23] <gmcs> Is there any one who know about certutil.exe
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1702. # [15:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/429806586db9 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 2d6c5cbcc213 (bug 902587) for failures during linking on a CLOSED TREE
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1709. # [15:29] <Yoric> So, I have an error 0x805303f4. Any idea what that could be?
1710. # [15:29] <Yoric> (that error doesn't appear in Components.results)
1711. # [15:29] <mcsmurf> http://james-ross.co.uk/mozilla/misc/nserror?0x805303F4
1712. # [15:30] <Yoric> Thanks.
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1714. # [15:30] <mcsmurf> the error table is not up-to-date anymore, but I don't think that many new error codes get added
1715. # [15:30] <glandium> gmcs: build failure?
1716. # [15:31] <gmcs> Help !
1717. # [15:32] <mikedeboer> so, is anyone else seeing a completely new font when opening newly compiled UX on OSX?
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1719. # [15:32] <mikedeboer> ...or m-c
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1726. # [15:37] <mikedeboer> http://note.io/1aigdnT
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1730. # [15:39] <gmcs> Help !
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1738. # [15:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c6731046b796 - Alexandre Lissy - Bug 921928 - Make <iframe mozbrower remote> a preferred target when fluffing
1739. # [15:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bd9cbc876172 - Ed Morley - Bug 930988 - mercurial-setup: Update the bugzilla.mozilla.org fingerprint to that of the new certificate; r=gps
1740. # [15:43] <gmcs> Any one is there who can help me ?
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1743. # [15:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gmcs: if you want a cert or so in your own Firefox distribution, maybe the enterprise list is something for you https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/enterprise
1744. # [15:46] <gmcs> No just want to add mu certificate to cert8.db file ?
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1747. # [15:47] <gmcs> means how certutil add certificate in authorities store
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1759. # [15:55] <mikedeboer> I just confirmed the sans-serif font glitch on m-c too. This is on OSX Mavericks. Anyone else seeing this issue? Does this have any relation to the new serif font we added/ are using for Fennec?
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1761. # [15:55] <past> edmorley: I don't suppose you plan on landing bug 930988 straight to fx-team now, are you?
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1763. # [15:56] <mikedeboer> this is for all 'native' UI elements, not content as far as I can see
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1765. # [16:00] <edmorley> past: I've landed it already on inbound, so I probably will just be waiting for the merge, particularly given that people have to run mercurial-setup manually after pulling that changeset anyway - for now you can just update your hgrc manually with the new value :-)
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1767. # [16:01] <past> edmorley: ok, I just thought it wouldn't hurt to ask :-)
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1772. # [16:02] <edmorley> past: double landing on multiple trees after accidentally pushing before review might not be the most tactful move on my part :-)
1773. # [16:02] <Archaeopteryx> edmorley: hi re bug 765285, if i push it to try now (and it will pass), will it still get in before 27 branching?
1774. # [16:02] <past> haha
1775. # [16:02] <edmorley> Archaeopteryx: possibly, though requesting approval for uplift in the early parts of the cycle is easy, so I wouldn't worry either way :-)
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1777. # [16:03] <Archaeopteryx> thank you
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1779. # [16:03] <gmcs> Help !
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1784. # [16:04] <mcsmurf> gmcs: *sigh* did you already try google on how to use certutil?
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1786. # [16:05] <Yoric> From what I understand, gmcs actually wants to port certutil to c#, which is a little complex.
1787. # [16:05] <mcsmurf> oh..
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1803. # [16:12] <gmcs> Yes yoric
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1809. # [16:17] <gmcs> Yoric i just want to know that instead of certutil.exe and dll related to that into one program
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1811. # [16:18] <avih> jwatt: is there a good reason to visit the london office after the rendering workweek? related to mozfestival?
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1814. # [16:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14fa49fdadfe - Hannes Verschore - Bug 930991 - IonMonkey: Fix bailout during arguments check with TypeSets that contain a combination of SingleObjects and TypedObjects, r=jandem
1815. # [16:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c15734ce49d0 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 930989 - IonMonkey: In debug builds always test arguments, r=jandem
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1824. # [16:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf0a455a84fb - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 03ffffc0bff4 (bug 929297)
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1845. # [16:42] <Ms2ger> const char26_t*, eh
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1857. # [16:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f359db89c13b - Brendan Dahl - Bug 811002 - Part 2: Never create a DIB when printing. r=bas
1858. # [16:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7aec4c2156d5 - Bas Schouten - Bug 811002 - Part 1: Properly apply CTM when executing win32 printing surface paints. r=jrmuizel
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1861. # [16:50] <carlsonp> Is there anyplace (perhaps on the wiki?) that has a listing of the history of changes to the various mailing lists? For example, firefox-devel only has archives going back to Jan 2013, I'm assuming it was renamed?
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1863. # [16:50] <froydnj> 16 bits should be enough for everybody
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1870. # [16:53] <jdm> carlsonp: it was created, not renamed
1871. # [16:53] <jdm> carlsonp: the old mailing list was mozilla.dev.firefox, I think
1872. # [16:53] <fhd> Am I supposed to add myself to the AUTHORS file in mozilla-central once a few of my patches have been merged?
1873. # [16:53] <Ms2ger> No
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1875. # [16:54] <Ms2ger> Never even seen that file
1876. # [16:54] <jdm> it was added a year ago
1877. # [16:54] <jdm> and never touched since
1878. # [16:54] <jdm> bug 763623
1879. # [16:54] <Ms2ger> Huh, I'm in there
1880. # [16:55] <mcsmurf> heh
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1882. # [16:55] <jdm> "- Permit new Mozilla code authors who wish to do so to add their names also"
1883. # [16:55] <jdm> so it is allowable, it seems
1884. # [16:55] <mcsmurf> I'm in about:credits that's enough ;)
1885. # [16:55] <mcsmurf> +listed
1886. # [16:56] <Ms2ger> Oh, BenB
1887. # [16:56] <jdm> heh
1888. # [16:56] <Ms2ger> Not exactly a good sign
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1890. # [16:57] <gaston> Ms2ger: what does that mean ? :)
1891. # [16:57] <WeirdAl> y'know, this would make for a fairly effective spamlist ;)
1892. # [16:57] <WeirdAl> or maybe I should say ineffective, given the audience
1893. # [16:57] <Ms2ger> WeirdAl, oh, so *you* are spamming me!
1894. # [16:57] <carlsonp> jdm, thanks, so I've found these archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mozilla.devel.firefox but they only go to Jan 2012, I'm assuming there was even another mailing list before this? Do you know by chance? Essentially, I'm trying to download all the archives over time for a research project.
1895. # [16:58] <WeirdAl> Ms2ger: no, I'm far more competent at fixing things than annoying people
1896. # [16:58] <jdm> carlsonp: dev.apps.firefox, probably
1897. # [16:58] <mcsmurf> carlsonp: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mozilla.dev.apps.firefox is probably what you're looking for
1898. # [16:58] <mcsmurf> so mozilla.dev.apps.firefox
1899. # [16:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8803d874cbea - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset c6731046b796 (bug 921928) for mochitest-4 timeouts in test_event_target_iframe_apps_oop.html
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1902. # [17:00] * WeirdAl is glad to see cmanske's name on the list, though
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1917. # [17:05] <glazou> WeirdAl: where ????
1918. # [17:05] <Gijs> mcsmurf: carlsonp no.
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1920. # [17:05] <Gijs> Oh.
1921. # [17:05] <Ms2ger> glazou, /AUTHORS
1922. # [17:05] <Gijs> I should read more scrollback.
1923. # [17:05] <glazou> oh in credits
1924. # [17:05] <glazou> yes
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1926. # [17:05] <Gijs> mcsmurf: carlsonp: as you were, sorry, I missed the archive part. For newer messages, use the firefox-dev list. :)
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1928. # [17:06] <mcsmurf> :)
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1931. # [17:06] <WeirdAl> he may have retired, with me watching, glazou, but he was a great guy to know
1932. # [17:06] <glazou> oooooh yes
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1950. # [17:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f85c0d3d7f31 - Andrew Quartey - Bug 873450 - Implement IA2 containing relations, r=tbsaunde
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1953. # [17:14] <carlsonp> Does mozilla.dev.apps.firefox (the old one) have archived emails on the Mozilla side, like firefox-dev does? https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/firefox-dev/
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1967. # [17:23] <carlsonp> ahh nevermind, looks like archive.org to the rescue :)
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1970. # [17:23] <jchen> Enn: ping?
1971. # [17:24] <padenot> when using hg bisect, how can I print the range?
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1973. # [17:24] <padenot> say I have narrowed down enough to check the commit log for the regression range, how can I do that?
1974. # [17:24] <jcranmer> carlsonp: news.mozilla.org has it archived
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1979. # [17:26] <ekr_> glandium: ping
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1981. # [17:27] <glandium> ekr_: pong
1982. # [17:27] <ekr_> glandium: I would very much like to resolve 928808, because it means I have to apply a patch to even build on my mac.
1983. # [17:27] <ekr_> You seem unhappy about octoploid's solution.
1984. # [17:27] <ekr_> what solution would you like?
1985. # [17:27] <glandium> ekr_: i don't know
1986. # [17:28] <glandium> ekr_: you don't have to build with clang trunk, you know
1987. # [17:28] <ekr_> If I am reading c5 correctly, this code actually is non-specification conformant
1988. # [17:28] <glandium> ekr_: and the spec is a pita
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1991. # [17:29] <glandium> ekr_: that doesn't make exporting those symbols from libmozalloc right. as a matter of fact, i'm pretty sure that would blow up on some platforms
1992. # [17:29] <ekr_> glandium: Well, I don't expect clang to change, since they are right and we are wrong.
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1994. # [17:29] <edmorley|sheriffduty> padenot: any reason not to use mozregression with the build option?
1995. # [17:29] <ekr_> glandium: and we can't really have a situation where we can never upgrade clang
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1998. # [17:30] <glandium> ekr_: yeah well, we can also wait a couple weeks to figure it out.
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2000. # [17:30] <ekr_> glandium: OK, so who is doing that?
2001. # [17:30] <glandium> just don't use clang trunk for those couple weeks
2002. # [17:30] <glandium> i will
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2009. # [17:32] <ekr_> FWIW, not using clang trunk is not as easy as it sounds for me. This is a Lion machine and the version of clang I was previously using was crashing, so basically I would have to try to go back and find a version of clang that didn't crash but also didn't choke on this code. But in the interim I can just apply this patch set locally.
2010. # [17:32] <ekr_> OK if I assign this bug to you then?
2011. # [17:32] <ekr_> glandium: ^^
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2013. # [17:33] <glandium> ekr_: sure
2014. # [17:33] <glandium> ekr_: or you could use clang from xcode 5
2015. # [17:33] <glandium> ekr_: or you could use the clang we use on the build slaves
2016. # [17:33] * froydnj guesses xcode 5 doesn't run on lion
2017. # [17:34] <ekr_> froydnj: or at least doesn't install
2018. # [17:35] <glandium> xcode > 4.1 should do
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2020. # [17:35] <ekr_> glandium: I would have to check, but IIRC the reason I went to clang trunk is that the last xcode available for Lion no longer compiled Firefox
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2022. # [17:36] <abr> glandium: Let's work through a quick logic exercise here. Ultimately, we're going to move on to a version of clang that requires spec compliance in this regard, right? And what it says on its face is that these functions cannot, must not, will not be inlined. There's really no way around that: it's not a side effect of something else; it's the rule itself. And if they're not inlined, then...
2023. # [17:36] <abr> (I'll let you finish the thought)
2024. # [17:37] <reuben> ekr_: you can always revert to the revision in browser/config/tooltool-manifests/macosx64/releng.manifest
2025. # [17:37] <ekr_> reuben: I'm not blocked; I have a local fix.
2026. # [17:37] <glandium> abr: moving them in mozalloc.cpp will make them exported from libmozalloc. that's not the right place for them to be exported
2027. # [17:37] <ekr_> reuben: so yes there are a number of workarounds, but the point is that our code is wrong and needs to be fixed
2028. # [17:38] <reuben> I see
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2030. # [17:38] <froydnj> "cannot, must not, will not be inlined" is a little strong
2031. # [17:39] <glandium> ekr_: according to https://developer.apple.com/downloads/index.action?q=xcode xcode 4.6.3 works on lion
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2035. # [17:39] <glandium> froydnj: that's what clang says
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2037. # [17:39] <glandium> (essentially)
2038. # [17:40] <abr> glandium: Ah. See, your explanation in the bug didn't convey that nuance. Perhaps a bit more communication would have been nice.
2039. # [17:40] <froydnj> "cannot be declared inline"
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2041. # [17:40] <ekr_> the standard text seems reasonable clear here "The program’s definitions shall not be specified as inline"
2042. # [17:41] <froydnj> not specified as inline is different from "must not be inlined"
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2045. # [17:42] <jcranmer> froydnj: ping
2046. # [17:42] <froydnj> one says something about what you're communicating to the compiler
2047. # [17:42] <froydnj> the other says something about what the compiler is allowed to do
2048. # [17:42] <froydnj> jcranmer: pong
2049. # [17:42] <abr> froydnj: Yes. Good catch. I'll fix that in v2 of my rant.
2050. # [17:42] <ekr_> froydnj: yes, I agree that the compiler can do whatever it wants
2051. # [17:42] <jcranmer> froydnj: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_CXX_in_Mozilla_code
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2054. # [17:42] <jcranmer> froydnj: do you think trying to specify STL compatibility is too much?
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2056. # [17:43] <froydnj> ah, this is probably not having cross binutils-esque programs about
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2058. # [17:43] * froydnj looks
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2063. # [17:43] <glandium> froydnj: not being allowed to declare it inline basically means it can't be inlined
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2066. # [17:44] <froydnj> glandium: compilers inline non-inline functions all the time
2067. # [17:44] <Ms2ger> froydnj, do they?
2068. # [17:44] <reuben> ya
2069. # [17:44] <Ms2ger> Note that everything defined in a header is implicitly inline
2070. # [17:45] <jcranmer> froydnj: only if optimizations are enabled, and they're in the same module (or LTO is on)
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2073. # [17:45] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: not necessarily
2074. # [17:45] <jcranmer> "it's complicated"
2075. # [17:45] <glandium> Ms2ger: there is no notion of being defined in a header
2076. # [17:45] <Ms2ger> If you say so
2077. # [17:45] <froydnj> Ms2ger: you are probably thinking of "things defined inline in a class" (to a 1st approximation)
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2079. # [17:45] <Ms2ger> That
2080. # [17:45] <jcranmer> the only implicit inlining is C++ inline clsass definitions
2081. # [17:46] <glandium> froydnj: and sometimes they don't. and when you have two modules that don't, you have fun
2082. # [17:46] <froydnj> but compilers inline lots of other things
2083. # [17:46] <jcranmer> otherwise, you have to make the definitions static
2084. # [17:46] <jcranmer> or inline
2085. # [17:46] * froydnj rebuilds with -s to see what's going on
2086. # [17:46] <jcranmer> or rely on templates on ODR
2087. # [17:46] <jcranmer> s/on ODR/and ODR/
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2095. # [17:50] <glandium> jcranmer: and in that particular case, static doesn't work either
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2099. # [17:51] <mstange> edmorley|sheriffduty: oops, thanks for noticing the missing commit message
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2101. # [17:51] <edmorley|sheriffduty> mstange: np :-) (qimportbz tried to make one up but was less than ideal formatting :-))
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2103. # [17:52] <mstange> heh
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2108. # [17:54] <jcranmer> froydnj: in case my message got lost in the discussion, did you see what I asked about STL compatibility?
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2110. # [17:55] <froydnj> jcranmer: oh, right, sorry
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2112. # [17:56] <froydnj> jcranmer: how extensive is your "comptability"? has the header? has these pieces of functionality?
2113. # [17:56] <jcranmer> froydnj: I'm not sure
2114. # [17:56] <jcranmer> certainly, trying to track down STL compatibility is difficult
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2116. # [17:57] <jcranmer> since compiler vendors loudly publish C++11 language compatibility but library support is buried deep in documentation
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2119. # [17:58] <froydnj> c++11 library support is a ton of stuff to write
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2121. # [17:59] <jcranmer> it's not clear to me how much people care about the STL stuff
2122. # [17:59] <froydnj> jcranmer: do std::c{in,out,err} cause static initializers everywhere, or just on linux?
2123. # [17:59] <jcranmer> just trying to track down what's in C++03 and what isnt is painful
2124. # [17:59] <glandium> jcranmer: people people or mozilla people?
2125. # [17:59] <jcranmer> froydnj: I'm not sure
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2127. # [17:59] <froydnj> I know they don't on android
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2129. # [17:59] <jcranmer> glandium: anyone who would read the webpage
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2134. # [18:00] <tbsaunde> froydnj: orly?
2135. # [18:00] <glandium> jcranmer: it's certainly interesting to have information about what our coding practices suggest you don't use
2136. # [18:00] <jcranmer> froydnj: if they don't, they're violating the standards
2137. # [18:00] <tbsaunde> glandium: clang doesn't accept making operator new attribute always_inline?
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2139. # [18:01] <froydnj> tbsaunde: I remember them not turning up static initializers in my greps. I might have been looking in the wrong place
2140. # [18:01] <glandium> tbsaunde: mmmmmm
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2143. # [18:01] <tbsaunde> glandium: which I sort of thought we made new already?
2144. # [18:01] <froydnj> jcranmer: my sense is that the data structure/algorithm support of the STL is more interesting for mozilla developers
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2148. # [18:01] <tbsaunde> froydnj: look at crash reporter stuff there's tons of static constructors on linux there because of iostream
2149. # [18:01] <froydnj> versus the platform support
2150. # [18:02] <jcranmer> froydnj: the problem there is we have different rules for different parts of the tree
2151. # [18:02] <froydnj> tbsaunde: right, and I remember not seeing those static constructors in android objects
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2154. # [18:02] <froydnj> jcranmer: welcome to the inability to set common coding standards in gecko ;)
2155. # [18:02] <glandium> tbsaunde: it's the case, but it's with inline, too
2156. # [18:03] <jcranmer> froydnj: it's more an issue that we don't have a Gecko ADT library that everyone agrees on
2157. # [18:03] <jcranmer> not even MFBT
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2159. # [18:03] <tbsaunde> glandium: so presumably inline then is pointless?
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2161. # [18:03] <tbsaunde> (I'm not sure but I'd hope that's the case)
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2164. # [18:04] <froydnj> jcranmer: that too
2165. # [18:04] <froydnj> jcranmer: and third-party code
2166. # [18:05] <froydnj> jcranmer: and things like moz2d, which graphics folk want to keep compilable separately from anything else in the tree
2167. # [18:05] <glandium> ekr: can you try https://diff.pastebin.mozilla.org/3333015?
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2171. # [18:06] <ekr> glandium: will do once this compile finishes
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2176. # [18:06] <ekr> But isn't this basically the same as removing inline? That caused link errors for me last time b/c of duplicate symbols
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2183. # [18:07] <jcranmer> froydnj: it does beg the question if we should be aligning our APIs more with STL
2184. # [18:08] <glandium> ekr: it may or may not. depends on what the compiler does with the attribute
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2188. # [18:08] <jcranmer> I mentioned that and got a big "meeeeehhhh" from m.d.platform
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2190. # [18:08] <ekr> glandium: right, but either it thinks it's being inlined and then it's presumably nonconformant or it's not in which case we will likely get link errors. anyway, I will report back in a bit
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2192. # [18:09] <glandium> ekr: it's probably not handled at the same level
2193. # [18:09] <froydnj> technically, since __attribute__ lives outside the spec, I think the effects of it cannot be violating the spec
2194. # [18:09] <ekr> glandium: ok, well will report back.
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2198. # [18:10] <glandium> froydnj: the spec talks about the declaration, not how the function is treated by the compiler
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2202. # [18:11] <froydnj> glandium: see, there I go, being sloppy with the terminology
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2207. # [18:11] <froydnj> glandium: since the spec doesn't talk about __attribute__((always_inline)), putting it on a declaration can't be considered violating the (letter of the) spec
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2210. # [18:12] <glandium> at least, clang does inline when __attribute__((always_inline)) is there without inline
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2213. # [18:12] <glandium> so that shouldn't lead to link errors
2214. # [18:12] <froydnj> glandium: do you know where the rules for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=921040#c65 live in the build system?
2215. # [18:12] <glandium> i don't have a clang trunk to tell whether it's anal about it or not
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2219. # [18:13] <glandium> froydnj: it wants AR
2220. # [18:13] <froydnj> REBUILD_CHECK doesn't seem to be triggering REPORT_BUILD for me
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2222. # [18:14] <abr> froydnj: So, outside the spec or not, the related clang bug that was fixed by enforcing this rule was done for very real reasons that can lead to nearly impossible-to-track-down memory leaks. See http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.compilers.llvm.bugs/25882 for details.
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2224. # [18:14] <@gavin> edmorley|sheriffduty: gah, sorry for the trouble
2225. # [18:14] <@gavin> are you in the office today, btw?
2226. # [18:14] <edmorley|sheriffduty> gavin: np (was worried it was one of the checkin-neededs I landed hehe)
2227. # [18:14] <edmorley|sheriffduty> gavin: no, guessing you are? :-)
2228. # [18:15] <abr> froydnj: In other words, even if you trick the compiler into doing what you think you want it to do, you're aiming a gun at your foot and cocking the hammer.
2229. # [18:15] <@gavin> yeah
2230. # [18:15] <@gavin> think I saw you walk by the other day, didn't get to say hi
2231. # [18:15] <edmorley|sheriffduty> gavin: I no longer have a desk at the office, so only visit periodically
2232. # [18:15] <@gavin> ah ok
2233. # [18:15] <edmorley|sheriffduty> gavin: oh sorry was probably in my own bubble! :-)
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2235. # [18:16] <froydnj> ted: oh, duh
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2237. # [18:17] <froydnj> abr: hm, yeah, I don't see the leak issues there
2238. # [18:18] <abr> froydnj: Did you, by any chance, try running the sample program at the bottom of that bug with different -O flags?
2239. # [18:18] <glandium> abr: that bug report doesn't say there are unmatched numbers of malloc and free
2240. # [18:18] <abr> glandium: For some reason, that's how I'm interpreting the statement "When built with optimizations, this gives different numbers of 'malloc' and 'free' lines."
2241. # [18:18] <abr> How do you read it?
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2244. # [18:19] <froydnj> it means that those operators are not being called the same number of times
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2246. # [18:19] <froydnj> not that there is necessarily a memory leak, per se?
2247. # [18:19] <glandium> abr: that different -O level gives different number of malloc/free pairs
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2249. # [18:21] <froydnj> abr: it doesn't work for me locally (gcc 4.7)
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2255. # [18:21] <glandium> abr: whatever level of -O i give i get 1 malloc and 1 free (clang 3.4)
2256. # [18:21] <froydnj> abr: actually, wait, it just needed -pthread
2257. # [18:22] <froydnj> abr: and I get one malloc and one free regardless of -O level
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2262. # [18:23] <Enn> jchen: hi
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2264. # [18:24] <spohl> dbaron: ping
2265. # [18:24] <jchen> Enn: hi do you mind reviewing the patch in bug 717878? (the one you f+'d)
2266. # [18:24] <@dbaron> spohl, pong
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2268. # [18:25] <Enn> ok
2269. # [18:25] <spohl> dbaron: hi there, I just read through your email again to dev-platform ( https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/mozilla.dev.platform/NOCX_tDfFCA/BJ8VhAEUhykJ )
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2271. # [18:25] <abr> glandium: On OS X 10.8 with "Apple LLVM version 4.2 (clang-425.0.28) (based on LLVM 3.2svn)", I get two mallocs and one free.
2272. # [18:26] <abr> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3333110
2273. # [18:26] <spohl> dbaron: I was wondering if you still felt the same way, and whether you think this could be responsive enough for swipe animations (i.e. to get the image data from bfcache rather than taking separate snapshots)
2274. # [18:26] <abr> Hence: "Hard to track down."
2275. # [18:26] <glandium> abr: c++ -O3 --std=c++11 -pthread -S leak.cpp -o -
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2277. # [18:27] <froydnj> abr: of course, that's assuming the stdlib you're using is bug-free...
2278. # [18:27] <@dbaron> spohl, not sure... though perhaps not?
2279. # [18:28] <spohl> dbaron: we did change the number of snapshots from 20 down to 5, which I believe solved the memory consumption problem. now we're faced with regressions in responsiveness.
2280. # [18:28] <froydnj> gps: |set -ex| instead?
2281. # [18:28] <abr> glandium: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3333134
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2289. # [18:31] <abr> But I think the broader point here is that the clang developers recognize that trying to do these kinds of acrobatics is actually broken. If you somehow manage to circumvent the safeguards they've put in place, you're exposing yourself to the issue that they're trying to protect you from.
2290. # [18:31] <abr> glandium: ^^^
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2295. # [18:33] <glandium> abr: i don't think they're recognizing anything. they're just making clang reject code that doesn't follow the c++ spec
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2297. # [18:33] <spohl> dbaron: sorry, not sure if you've answered ^. lost network connectivity for a minute.
2298. # [18:33] <glandium> nowhere they say that inlining operator new is broken
2299. # [18:33] <abr> glandium: And the memory leak that they demonstrate as the rationale for emitting an error here is… imaginary?
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2303. # [18:35] <froydnj> depends on what valgrind says ;)
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2309. # [18:37] <firebot> Check-in:
2310. # [18:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82d5d92a3eac - Jeff Walden - Bug 915555 - Don't redundantly cast an unnamed expression to an rvalue reference, because 1) it's dumb, and 2) gcc 4.4 warns about casting an rvalue reference to an rvalue
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2312. # [18:38] <firebot> reference (which is harmless due to C++11's rvalue semantics). f=hub, r=trivial
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2314. # [18:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3a2d93fb173 - Jeff Walden - Bug 924839 - Disable the Intl API in anticipation of uplift, as we ran out of time to update ICU. r=flipping-a-flag
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2324. # [18:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2f2a45f04e7c - Gregor Wagner - Backout bug 924702 for test failures.
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2326. # [18:46] <ekr> I'm sorta trying to figure out what we are debating here. 1. it's clear the standard forbids inline replacement of these operators. 2. It seems that the clang guys ran into a real issue. That suggests that trying to trick the compiler into quasi-inlining them is scary even if it doesn't fall afoul of this particular check. Do people disagree with this?
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2334. # [18:48] <clb> hey, anyone here who knows about profiling Firefox on Android?
2335. # [18:48] <BenWa> clb: yes
2336. # [18:48] <clb> hi BenWa!
2337. # [18:48] <froydnj> ekr: it's not clear to me whether the issue is real or not
2338. # [18:48] <BenWa> Hello
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2340. # [18:48] <froydnj> ekr: it's obviously an issue on mac
2341. # [18:48] <froydnj> ekr: but seemingly not on linux
2342. # [18:49] <clb> I'm following 'Profiling Firefox mobile' at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Performance/Profiling_with_the_Built-in_Profiler
2343. # [18:49] <clb> which says to have 'arm-eabi-addr2line' in PATH - but current Android NDK doesn't have that command
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2345. # [18:49] <froydnj> and the explanation is opaque, so who's right in this instance is hard to say (maybe both are, somehow?)
2346. # [18:49] <froydnj> ekr: tricking the compiler is a little scary, yes
2347. # [18:50] <clb> instead it has http://pastebin.com/kTwthL6E
2348. # [18:50] <clb> should I go to some older NDK version? (which?) or is there some other fix?
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2350. # [18:50] <ekr> froydnj: fwiw, just showing the defns in mozalloc.cpp compiles and links on Mac. I make no assertions about performance or anything like that
2351. # [18:50] <glandium> froydnj: it's not scarier than what we're currently doing
2352. # [18:50] <froydnj> glandium: that too (we do a lot of scary things)
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2354. # [18:51] <glandium> ekr: nor about whether it does what you think it does ; nor whether it works on other platforms
2355. # [18:51] <ekr> glandium: yes, that's why I said "on Mac"
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2358. # [18:52] <glandium> i assert that if the always_inline trick works, it's good enough for a short term fix, because it doesn't change what we make the compiler do today
2359. # [18:52] <ekr> as for "what I think it does", it runs OK with the few things I have tested. Why would you think it was bad to out-of-line it?
2360. # [18:53] <glandium> that leaves more time to dtrt
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2362. # [18:54] <glandium> ekr: that it works doesn't say if that actually calls the expected functions
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2364. # [18:54] <ekr> My concern about the always_inline trick is that presumably from now on clang development will proceed under the assumption that these operators are not inlined. So now we're basically operating outside their envelope.
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2366. # [18:55] <glandium> ekr: where did i say it would stay like that forever?
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2371. # [18:57] <froydnj> ekr: that's not a valid assumption to make
2372. # [18:57] <abr> froydnj / glandium: So, it occurs to me that what's going on in this little test case is probably more dangerous than a simple memory leak. I'm pretty sure that what's happening here is that the overloaded function new is being called for one of the objects, but the system free() is being invoked when it's done. For an alternative memory manager, the failure could be pretty spectacular.
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2375. # [18:58] <glandium> abr: the testcase is also using std::thread, which is probably adding its own level of weirdness
2376. # [18:58] <glandium> and we don't use it
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2378. # [19:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b569edfd98c2 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 82d5d92a3eac (bug 915555) for build failures on a CLOSED TREE
2379. # [19:00] <froydnj> abr: just out of curiousity, what happens if you remove the inline qualifiers in that testcase? (also interesting: what happens if you take out the printfs)
2380. # [19:00] <clb> BenWa: ok, looks like symlinking the addr2line to the old name is a workaround
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2383. # [19:00] <abr> glandium: This is all just magical thinking. You're making stuff up about why the dragon won't eat us, without any real basis in reality. But the fact remains that the people who work on the compiler -- who I suspect have a better idea how it works than you or I do -- have found the dragon, put up a big sign saying "beware of the dragon," and barred off the cave. And you're trying to find ways to break in. It just seems ill-advi
2384. # [19:00] <clb> with ln arm-linux-androideabi-addr2line arm-eabi-addr2line
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2386. # [19:00] <BenWa> clb: Ahh yes sorry, symlink
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2389. # [19:01] <glandium> abr: all i see in that bug is "here, i have that problem, the spec says inline should be forbidden anyways" and the resolution is to forbid inline. I wouldn't exclude an actual compiler bug hidden somewhere
2390. # [19:02] * corey|away is now known as corey
2391. # [19:02] <ekr> anyway, this is moot: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3333283
2392. # [19:02] <fox2mike> edmorley|sheriffduty: hey
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2394. # [19:02] <fox2mike> had a quick question for you, if you have some time
2395. # [19:02] <ekr> glandium: ^^
2396. # [19:02] <abr> glandium: Without the inline, I get three mallocs and three frees.
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2398. # [19:03] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fox2mike: shoot :-)
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2400. # [19:04] <abr> glandium: WIthout the printfs, I don't know what kind of instrumentation you want me to put in place.
2401. # [19:04] <glandium> abr: without the inline, i get one of each, like with the inline.
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2403. # [19:04] <glandium> abr: s/glandium/froydnj/
2404. # [19:04] <abr> glandium: Out of curiosity, what size is it reporting for that malloc?
2405. # [19:04] <froydnj> abr: I was more interested in the assembly
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2407. # [19:05] <fox2mike> edmorley|sheriffduty: what are the important trees (under treestatus.mozilla.org)? (we'd like to monitor a few and know when they're closed/open)
2408. # [19:05] <glandium> abr: 56
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2411. # [19:05] <clb> BenWa: alright, now it works. After I have finished doing a profile and I want to do another, I did not figure out any other way thant to close the browser on OSX and restart
2412. # [19:05] <clb> pressing stop didn't do anything
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2414. # [19:06] <abr> glandium: Interesting. I'm getting 1, 8, and 48. I wonder if you get some kind of aggregation in your libc that I'm not getting over here.
2415. # [19:06] <BenWa> dont hit stop
2416. # [19:06] <ekr> glandium: that was with the always_inline trick
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2418. # [19:06] <BenWa> it should just work if you click analyze
2419. # [19:06] <ekr> so I don't think that's viable
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2423. # [19:07] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fox2mike: for stats, or for...?
2424. # [19:07] <ekr> glandium: for concreteness, here is my patch, which I had to unbitrot from yours
2425. # [19:07] <ekr> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3333291
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2429. # [19:09] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fox2mike: AutomatedTester is working on stats
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2431. # [19:09] <froydnj> heh
2432. # [19:09] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fox2mike: and we wouldn't want nagios alerts for them
2433. # [19:09] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fox2mike: but the list is: mozilla-*, b2g-inbound, fx-team, try ... or if you need a smaller list: mozilla-central, mozilla-inbound, b2g-inbound, fx-team
2434. # [19:09] <fox2mike> edmorley|sheriffduty: we (infra) do :) because we want to know (for our purposes)
2435. # [19:09] <fox2mike> thanks!
2436. # [19:09] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fox2mike: could you be more specific?
2437. # [19:09] <fox2mike> as in
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2439. # [19:10] <fox2mike> I don't want to learn after 60 mins that the trees have been closed because of a possible infra issue
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2441. # [19:10] <fox2mike> edmorley|sheriffduty: like the bzapi issue a couple of days ago
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2443. # [19:10] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fox2mike: ah ok. well there is an infra tag used for closures, but it's used for bzapi too
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2446. # [19:10] <fox2mike> which is incorrect
2447. # [19:10] <fox2mike> but anyway
2448. # [19:10] <fox2mike> thanks :)
2449. # [19:10] <philor> fox2mike: so I did file the bug in a bad component?
2450. # [19:10] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fox2mike: but that's a "filing a bug in the wrong component" issue, which is an education problem
2451. # [19:11] <philor> fox2mike: I've now asked at least three times where I should file it
2452. # [19:11] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fox2mike: it's not incorrect from the sheriff point of view
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2454. # [19:11] <fox2mike> philor: let me go look where it was filed
2455. # [19:11] <philor> I&O:Web ops: Other random stuff
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2457. # [19:12] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fox2mike: anyway if it helps your use-case by all means poll treestatus :-) API help at https://treestatus.mozilla.org/help and each tree has logs as well + tags
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2459. # [19:12] <fox2mike> Web ops: Bugzilla or Source Control would be nice
2460. # [19:12] <fox2mike> philor: if in doubt
2461. # [19:12] <fox2mike> blocker on Server Operations will page oncall
2462. # [19:12] <fox2mike> if you need someone's attention
2463. # [19:12] <fox2mike> that's the best/fastest way
2464. # [19:12] <edmorley|sheriffduty> fox2mike: thank you, that's helpful :-)
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2466. # [19:13] <fox2mike> and it'll page us right away
2467. # [19:13] <fox2mike> so we'll look
2468. # [19:13] <philor> fox2mike: yeah, that's what I would have done, except I asked first and got... conflicting advice :)
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2470. # [19:13] <aceman> edmorley|sheriffduty: ping
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2472. # [19:13] <aceman> edmorley|sheriffduty: wrong bug ? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=927859#c2
2473. # [19:13] <edmorley|sheriffduty> aceman: hi (heading out shortly, late for date, oops)
2474. # [19:13] <edmorley|sheriffduty> aceman: i'll look, ta (automated marking)
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2479. # [19:15] <philor> fox2mike: but polling treestatus is not going to make you happy, since infra there not only means bzapi, it also means a bad buildbotcustom merge, or something landing in mozharness that shouldn't ought to have, or insufficient available buildslaves
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2482. # [19:16] <philor> we're more than more than happy to file where it'll page you, as long as we know where that is, and which bits of advice about other products and components to ignore
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2484. # [19:16] <fox2mike> philor: I only want to know when something is closed :)
2485. # [19:16] <fox2mike> so I'm aware
2486. # [19:16] <fox2mike> and that's all
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2489. # [19:19] <ekr> glandium: I will be happy to test other potential fixes you might have
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2492. # [19:20] <aceman> edmorley|away: thanks
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2499. # [19:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/74bd63cbb480 - Luke Wagner - Bug 931077 - fix awfy workload0 asm.js perf regression on 32-bit (r=sfink)
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2506. # [19:26] <WG9s> HI having issues building using gcc 4.5 one is a simple yet another need to incude NullPtr.h but second issue is liner errors form gold
2507. # [19:27] <WG9s> With inadequate error messages
2508. # [19:27] <dougt> anyone have a beta/release branch ?
2509. # [19:27] <WG9s> so first question is how do i make it link without gold these days so I can get reasonable error messages????
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2511. # [19:27] <froydnj> WG9s: what is the error?
2512. # [19:28] <froydnj> dougt: beta, why?
2513. # [19:28] <dougt> froydnj: need to push a fix there.
2514. # [19:28] <froydnj> dougt: what's the fix?
2515. # [19:29] <WG9s> ../../build/unix/gold/ld: error: read-only segment has dynamic relocations
2516. # [19:29] <WG9s> ../../build/unix/gold/ld: /home/wag/mozilla/mozilla2/fx-obj/toolkit/library/../../content/html/document/src/HTMLAllCollection.o: in function mozilla::dom::HTMLAllCollection::GetObject(JSContext*, mozilla::ErrorResult&):/home/wag/mozilla/mozilla2/content/html/document/src/HTMLAllCollection.cpp:56: error: undefined reference to 'nsWrapperCache::GetWrapper() const'
2517. # [19:29] <WG9s> ../../build/unix/gold/ld: /home/wag/mozilla/mozilla2/fx-obj/toolkit/library/../../content/xbl/src/nsBindingManager.o: in function nsBindingManager::GetBindingImplementation(nsIContent*, nsID const&, void**):/home/wag/mozilla/mozilla2/content/xbl/src/nsBindingManager.cpp:740: error: undefined reference to 'nsWrapperCache::GetWrapper() const'
2518. # [19:29] <WG9s> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
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2520. # [19:29] <dmajor> ted: who's the right person to review my system manufacturer change? you?
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2522. # [19:29] <WG9s> so no clue from thsi as to where the rad-only segment has dynamic relocations came form
2523. # [19:29] <WG9s> previous line in log was
2524. # [19:30] <WG9s> INPUT("../../gfx/skia/SkThreadPool.o")
2525. # [19:30] <WG9s> does that mean it came fromthere?
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2527. # [19:31] <froydnj> WG9s: it means somebody forgot to include nsWrapperCacheInlines.h in HTMLAllCollection.cpp
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2530. # [19:31] <froydnj> ehsan: have you been rearranging things in that area? ^
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2532. # [19:31] <WG9s> well no becuase this all may be a resoult of the
2533. # [19:31] <WG9s> ../../build/unix/gold/ld: error: read-only segment has dynamic relocations
2534. # [19:32] <WG9s> error
2535. # [19:32] <@ehsan> froydnj: no
2536. # [19:32] <WG9s> which might mean a lot of stuff got ignored i would think
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2538. # [19:32] <froydnj> WG9s: the text section has dynamic relocations because HTMLAllCollection.cpp didn't have a definition available for nsWrapperCache::GetWrapper
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2540. # [19:33] <froydnj> WG9s: and that's because ::GetWrapper is only defined in nsWrapperCacheInlines.h
2541. # [19:33] <froydnj> WG9s: where it's declared inline
2542. # [19:33] <WG9s> OK but then the nightly builds worked so this is somehow a gcc 4.6 4./5 difference
2543. # [19:33] <froydnj> WG9s: so there are no out-of-line definitions for the linker to find, hence the error
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2545. # [19:33] <WG9s> hmm gcc 4.6 gcc 4.5 difference
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2547. # [19:34] <WG9s> i build off the same changset as nightlies
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2552. # [19:36] <WG9s> but my build system is gcc 4.5.1
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2582. # [19:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fc2ee998c786 - Christoph Kerschbaumer - Bug 909920 - Mixed content warning should not show on a HTTP site - tests (r=tanvi,smaug)
2583. # [19:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7dcf8411463 - Christoph Kerschbaumer - Bug 909920 - Mixed content warning should not show on a HTTP site (r=tanvi,smaug)
2584. # [19:55] <WG9s> froydnj: well if gold gave beeter error message I could tell you. hence my how to use ld instead of gold question.
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2587. # [19:58] <froydnj> WG9s: ld will give you the same error
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2589. # [19:58] <WG9s> I was hopng for further detail
2590. # [19:58] <froydnj> there won't be any
2591. # [19:59] <WG9s> :(
2592. # [19:59] <froydnj> WG9s: this is a full clobber build?
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2595. # [20:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/aa459ad5a1ad - Olli Pettay - Bug 927901, bind .crypto to inner, not outer window, r=khuey. a=akeybl. CLOSED TREE
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2601. # [20:02] <WG9s> yes
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2603. # [20:02] <WG9s> full clobber
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2605. # [20:03] <WG9s> well let me try it one more time i guess
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2607. # [20:03] <froydnj> well, I'd start by figuring out why HTMLAllCollection.cpp doesn't include nsWrapperCacheInlines.h
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2609. # [20:05] <WG9s> but is that because it does not or because the link is not linking in required things because of the ld error?
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2612. # [20:06] <WG9s> teh lindk step got an error before the error you are loooking at reported.
2613. # [20:08] <WG9s> trying to identify the root cause of the issue here.
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2616. # [20:10] <froydnj> WG9s: well, what was that error?
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2618. # [20:11] <WG9s> Iposted the errors earlier sill find again.
2619. # [20:12] <WG9s> ../../build/unix/gold/ld: error: read-only segment has dynamic relocations
2620. # [20:12] <WG9s> hmm let me try agian
2621. # [20:12] <WG9s> ../../build/unix/gold/ld: error: read-only segment has dynamic relocations
2622. # [20:12] <WG9s> ../../build/unix/gold/ld: /home/wag/mozilla/mozilla2/fx-obj/toolkit/library/../../content/html/document/src/HTMLAllCollection.o: in function mozilla::dom::HTMLAllCollection::GetObject(JSContext*, mozilla::ErrorResult&):/home/wag/mozilla/mozilla2/content/html/document/src/HTMLAllCollection.cpp:56: error: undefined reference to 'nsWrapperCache::GetWrapper() const'
2623. # [20:12] <WG9s> ../../build/unix/gold/ld: /home/wag/mozilla/mozilla2/fx-obj/toolkit/library/../../content/xbl/src/nsBindingManager.o: in function nsBindingManager::GetBindingImplementation(nsIContent*, nsID const&, void**):/home/wag/mozilla/mozilla2/content/xbl/src/nsBindingManager.cpp:740: error: undefined reference to 'nsWrapperCache::GetWrapper() const'
2624. # [20:12] <WG9s> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
2625. # [20:12] <WG9s> taht is all i get from gold
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2627. # [20:13] <froydnj> ok, that's the same error you posted earlier
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2632. # [20:15] <@smaug> fabrice: will you re-land the patch?
2633. # [20:15] <@smaug> or should I?
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2643. # [20:18] <froydnj> tbsaunde: probably, but whether that's "don't export that" or "export more garbage" is unclear
2644. # [20:19] <sunfish> what's the easiest way to map between Firefox version numbers, eg. "Firefox 25" and mercurial branch names?
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2646. # [20:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a41ce04d632d - Nick Alexander - Bug 925185 - Part 2: Use add_java_jar and restrict JAVA_JAR_TARGETS to moz.build. r=gps
2647. # [20:19] <bhearsum> sunfish: don't use the branch name
2648. # [20:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/41d2964e2231 - Nick Alexander - Bug 925185 - Part 1: Add add_java_jar to moz.build. r=gps
2649. # [20:19] <bhearsum> use the tags
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2652. # [20:19] <bhearsum> eg, FIREFOX_25_0_RELEASE
2653. # [20:20] <bhearsum> there's no way to map the GECKO_ABC123_RELBRANCH names to a version number
2654. # [20:20] <froydnj> WG9s: hm, same thing is happening here with 4.7
2655. # [20:20] <froydnj> WG9s: did you file a bug for this?
2656. # [20:20] <sunfish> bhearsum: ok. Is there a way to get mxr.mozilla.org to search by tag?
2657. # [20:20] <bhearsum> sunfish: i don't think mxr indexes anything except the tip of default for any given repo
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2659. # [20:21] <bhearsum> if you want to search a specific version's source, i'd suggest downloading the source tarball for the specific version
2660. # [20:21] <sunfish> bhearsum: or an I browse by tag on hg.mozilla.org? I don't see anything obvious.
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2662. # [20:21] <bhearsum> sunfish: yeah, you can
2663. # [20:21] <sunfish> oh, I found it
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2665. # [20:22] <bhearsum> https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/file/FIREFOX_24_0_RELEASE
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2669. # [20:23] <WG9s> froydnj: Icould but was hoping somone here would giveme enough infoto file a menaingful one. rahter than a it is just broken.
2670. # [20:24] <bholley> Honza: ping
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2672. # [20:25] <sunfish> bhearsum: thanks!
2673. # [20:25] <bhearsum> sunfish: you're welcome!
2674. # [20:26] <froydnj> WG9s: oh, nm, I guess the symbols are defined elsewhere in my build
2675. # [20:27] <@ted> dmajor: if it's still COM heavy than one of the more windows-focused devs is a better person
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2677. # [20:27] <dmajor> alright
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2691. # [20:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8e4f531f68d2 - Luke Wagner - Bug 931048 - fix NULL crash on OOM in handleAsmJSWorkload (r=sstangl)
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2698. # [20:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f4bc5478669b - Ms2ger - Backout e3a2d93fb173 for test failures.
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2708. # [20:47] <cpeterson> Ms2ger: ping?
2709. # [20:47] <Ms2ger> cpeterson, ?
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2711. # [20:48] <cpeterson> Ms2ger: you backed out jwalden's e3a2d93fb173 cset, but didn't the tree go green after emorley backed out 82d5d92a3eac?
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2713. # [20:48] <Ms2ger> No
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2719. # [20:51] <cpeterson> Ms2ger: oh, I see the test failures in the later test runs now. thanks
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2729. # [20:59] <cpeterson> Any volunteers to backout Waldo's original ICU-enabling cset b6dc96f18391 after his partial backout (cset f4bc5478669b) failed? <:)
2730. # [20:59] <cpeterson> Unfortunately, he's on a plane now.
2731. # [21:00] <Ms2ger> Tree is closed
2732. # [21:02] <cpeterson> ok
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2740. # [21:06] <@ehsan> cpeterson: what should we back out?
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2748. # [21:12] <blob4000> good afternoon! a patch i've submitted as been given a + review. should i flag the patch with checkin-needed, targetting the same reviewer?
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2750. # [21:13] <Ms2ger> Just set the checkin-needed keyword
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2754. # [21:17] <armenzg> anyone around here manages a team shared twitter account?
2755. # [21:17] <armenzg> any gotchas I should be aware of?
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2772. # [21:27] <blob4000> thanks Ms2ger
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2774. # [21:28] <Ms2ger> Np
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2782. # [21:31] <philor> huh, we have tests running in different hunks on desktop now?
2783. # [21:33] * philor files "remove trychooser, and run all/all/all for all try pushes"
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2785. # [21:34] <sfink> it'd be nice to have an automatable report giving "current suckage level" vs "estimated suckage level in philor's preferred world", based on closure durations and things
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2787. # [21:36] <Ms2ger> philor, you mean 3 vs 4?
2788. # [21:36] <sfink> it does seem, at the very least, that we gain relatively little from selecting subsets of test suites via trychooser. Except when bisecting and iterating on one of them, anyway.
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2790. # [21:37] <philor> Ms2ger: I do indeed, the whole "only run the tests you need" thing sort of depends on being able to
2791. # [21:38] <philor> of course, Android, and b2g with reftest-107, sort of blew that already
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2795. # [21:41] <tbsaunde> sfink: I fairly often run try: -p all -b do -u mochitest-o for patches that really really should only effect mochitest-a11y
2796. # [21:43] <sfink> tbsaunde: yeah, that seems fine. It's only the automatically-chunked ones that seem troublesome. "Is my test in M-3 or M-2? Argh!"
2797. # [21:43] <philor> and the answer is apparent "yes"
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2801. # [21:47] * myk sometimes tries all tests the first time he tests a patch--just in case--then only relevant tests for subsequent patches
2802. # [21:47] <myk> and occasionally another full try run for the final patch ready for commission
2803. # [21:47] <myk> depending on how big and scary it is
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2807. # [21:48] <Ms2ger> fox2mike, oh, you wanted to know about tree closures for infra issues, I guess
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2809. # [21:48] <sfink> yeah, if we could put that down as a Best Practice, and convince everyone to do it that way, it'd be good
2810. # [21:48] <mconley> Ms2ger: I too want to know. :) Is there a bug #?
2811. # [21:48] <decoder> ehsan: ping
2812. # [21:49] <decoder> ehsan: unping^^
2813. # [21:49] <Callek|Buildduty> Ms2ger: also when theres an infra closure that you blame on releng, it would be GREAT to tell Buildduty in #releng
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2815. # [21:49] <Callek|Buildduty> Ms2ger: there is a *lot* of information here I don't know, the most important of which was the fact that there was a tree closure
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2819. # [21:50] <Ms2ger> Callek|Buildduty, hrm, not sure who to blame, exactly
2820. # [21:50] <mconley> I don't think anybody is blaming anybody here - at least for me, I just want to know what's up
2821. # [21:50] <Ms2ger> Callek|Buildduty, looks like this is win only, so might just be bug 710942
2822. # [21:50] <Callek|Buildduty> Ms2ger: which is why "infra" closures tend to go to buildduty first
2823. # [21:51] <Callek|Buildduty> Ms2ger: and we certainly need details like when did it start, when did you close trees, when did the symptoms end, what class(es) of machines, specific numbers like which machines quantity of issues, etc
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2825. # [21:52] <Callek|Buildduty> Ms2ger: anything less and we can't help you, and leaving trees closed for something other than code issues without letting releng know is bound to cause angst, because we (releng) are aptly suited to communicate between ourselves and IT when its issues that involve our infra (buildbot, etc)
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2827. # [21:52] <Callek|Buildduty> there are of course infra issues that don't need our involvement but like fox2mike we want to know about them
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2829. # [21:53] <Ms2ger> Callek|Buildduty, what I saw was a bunch of "remoteFailed: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): : Connection to the other side was lost in a non-clean fashion." purples
2830. # [21:54] <Ms2ger> Callek|Buildduty, looks like philor's retriggers are coming back green, though, so I've reopened
2831. # [21:54] <Callek|Buildduty> Ms2ger: sure, when you're closing trees for an infra reason, *always* tell #releng and/or buildduty
2832. # [21:54] <Callek|Buildduty> plz thanks
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2835. # [21:54] <Ms2ger> Callek|Buildduty, yes, I've figured that out ;)
2836. # [21:54] <Callek|Buildduty> knowing the details you see helps us inform you why/what and solve the issue if relevant
2837. # [21:55] <Ms2ger> philor, those android reftests look somewhat unhappy too
2838. # [21:55] <Callek|Buildduty> Ms2ger: preferrable is to tell buildduty in #releng btw ;-)
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2841. # [21:55] <Callek|Buildduty> Ms2ger: philor android 4.0 reftests are being disabled again, for that very reason... ignore them short-term
2842. # [21:56] <Ms2ger> Callek|Buildduty, ok, thanks
2843. # [21:56] <Ms2ger> Callek|Buildduty, oh, they're newly enabled?
2844. # [21:56] <Callek|Buildduty> Ms2ger: yea today
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2846. # [21:57] <Ms2ger> Callek|Buildduty, got a bug I can star them with?
2847. # [21:57] <Callek|Buildduty> Ms2ger: they were said to be green, but apparantly not
2848. # [21:57] <Ms2ger> Fun
2849. # [21:57] <Callek|Buildduty> Ms2ger: Bug 929447
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2852. # [21:59] <Ms2ger> Callek|Buildduty, fwiw, I tend to think it'd be nice to have the list of triggered tests in m-c, in cases like this ;)
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2854. # [22:00] <Callek|Buildduty> Ms2ger: agreed and its a releng-want for test-suites to be based on a file/info in m-c itself
2855. # [22:00] <Callek|Buildduty> its just a pretty hard problem right now
2856. # [22:00] <Ms2ger> Callek|Buildduty, I'm glad I don't have to solve it myself ;)
2857. # [22:01] <Callek|Buildduty> Ms2ger: not the least bit also because it would allow devs to work on and test new test suites on try, without actually enabling them for all try users ;-)
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2859. # [22:02] <Callek|Buildduty> among lots of other fun features we could theoretically make possible if we got that working
2860. # [22:02] <Ms2ger> Callek|Buildduty, and then changes like this could be sent to try ;)
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2864. # [22:03] <Ms2ger> Callek|Buildduty, anyway, will let you get on with your work ;)
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2866. # [22:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cee39f8dc049 - Brian Hackett - Bug 928562 - Always eagerly baseline compile inlined scripts during definite properties analysis, r=jandem.
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2872. # [22:05] <mccr8> Is there some kind of known issue with tools/rb/fix-linux-stack.pl? It is only symbolicating a few random things for me (mostly a few XPC things)
2873. # [22:05] <Ms2ger> mccr8, except it being perl? :)
2874. # [22:05] <mccr8> hah
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2878. # [22:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86cf81278443 - Randell Jesup - Bug 930778: Support DataChannel ACK for unordered channels r=tuexen
2879. # [22:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd7618acdabd - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 929534 r=jesup
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2881. # [22:09] <mccr8> running addr2line manually on one of the addresses works, so I guess it is just some problem hte script is having with what it is feeding to addr2line, which sounds more like something I could fix myself.
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2892. # [22:16] <@smaug> hmm, mochitest can access the same tests from different domains, right? anyone remember which domains
2893. # [22:16] <reuben> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/../lib/c++/v1/__config:191:20: error: typedef redefinition with different types ('char16_t' vs 'uint16_t' (aka 'unsigned short'))
2894. # [22:16] <reuben> oh boy
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2897. # [22:18] <@smaug> ah, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/pgo/server-locations.txt
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2899. # [22:18] <@smaug> why pgo o_O
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2907. # [22:20] <mccr8> I wonder if it would be faster to try to debug this script or to rewrite it in python
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2910. # [22:24] <@smaug> gps: ping
2911. # [22:24] <gps> smaug: (autoresponse) content-free ping detected. Please consider providing some additional context so I can address your questions more efficiently.
2912. # [22:24] <@smaug> ha
2913. # [22:25] <reuben> lol
2914. # [22:25] <@smaug> gps: curious, why do we have various .ini files? Why not just have test files in the moz.build ?
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2918. # [22:28] <gps> smaug: it seemingly arbitrary. but ini files have a few nice properties. notably they are static and metadata can be shared across multiple files easier
2919. # [22:30] <@smaug> gps: is the syntax .ini files use defined anywhere?
2920. # [22:30] <gps> smaug: https://ci.mozilla.org/job/mozilla-central-docs/Build_Documentation/test_manifests.html
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2923. # [22:31] <@smaug> gps: it is someone odd that some files go in [filename] and some are in some list without []
2924. # [22:31] <@smaug> s/someone/somewhat/
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2927. # [22:33] <gps> smaug: if you are referring the support-files, head, and tail, those are special and *not* test files
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2930. # [22:35] <@smaug> gps: yeah, support-files
2931. # [22:35] <@smaug> also, what is [DEFAULT] ?
2932. # [22:35] <@smaug> I don't see such file
2933. # [22:36] <@smaug> yet it uses the same syntax what is used for most of the files
2934. # [22:36] <gps> smaug: search for "DEFAULT" on https://ci.mozilla.org/job/mozilla-central-docs/Build_Documentation/test_manifests.html - it is documented there
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2943. # [22:40] <reuben> daleharvey: it's been backed out
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2945. # [22:40] <daleharvey> ah cool
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2947. # [22:43] <jimm> anyone know how you go about accessing lightbeam from within the browser?
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2952. # [22:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9861229c1b15 - Benoit Girard - Bug 931082 - LayerActivityTracker shouldn't force invalidate. r=roc
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2985. # [23:04] <dmajor> jimm: The readme on github says you should have an icon at the bottom right of your browser
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2993. # [23:07] <jimm> :( no icon
2994. # [23:07] <jimm> I installed on top of the old one, maybe that was a bad idea.
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3003. # [23:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c6a4d3416d87 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 927132 - Fix about:home in e10s (r=mdeboer)
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3015. # [23:17] <jimm> dmajor: doesn't seem to work in nightly
3016. # [23:17] <dmajor> heh, awesome
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3037. # [23:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2c247c354e8a - Brian Hackett - Bug 921171 - Check for an uncaught exception when finishing off thread parsing of scripts, r=billm.
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3051. # [23:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/46fb465e4076 - ffxbld - Added FIREFOX_25_0b12_RELEASE FIREFOX_25_0b12_BUILD1 tag(s) for changeset 8c53a2c86cf4. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
3052. # [23:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8c53a2c86cf4 - ffxbld - Automated checkin: version bump for firefox 25.0b12 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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3054. # [23:37] <rstrong> jimm: I had to re-enable it and it was in the tools menu
3055. # [23:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e61f767c0dcc - Olli Pettay - test for Bug 927901, rs=jst
3056. # [23:37] <rstrong> jimm: Tools -> Show Lightbeam (at the bottom)
3057. # [23:37] <philor> lightsofapollo: ping
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3061. # [23:38] <lightsofapollo> philor: pong
3062. # [23:38] <lightsofapollo> what is borked?
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3064. # [23:38] <philor> lightsofapollo: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=29678114&tree=Mozilla-Aurora - one of those 26 gaia-1_2 pushes :|
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3068. # [23:39] <gaston> wat, a b12 ?
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3070. # [23:39] <gaston> isnt it very late in the cycle ?
3071. # [23:39] <philor> though I *could* have wanted to talk about margaritas, it's theoretically possible I'd ping about something not-bad ;)
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3073. # [23:40] <@smaug> fabrice: you there?
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3075. # [23:40] <lightsofapollo> philor: that looks like a test harness bug
3076. # [23:40] <lightsofapollo> philor: what is the bug number?
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3078. # [23:40] <lightsofapollo> probably related to the harness changes we made to gaia-ui-tests recently
3079. # [23:41] <philor> lightsofapollo: unfiled
3080. # [23:41] <@smaug> fabrice: if not, I'm about to reland the patch
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3083. # [23:42] <philor> I've got 3 minutes of my lunch hour left, and... 60 unstarred failures I'm not going to get to in that time, your call, if it's not backout time then it's that suite gets hidden time
3084. # [23:43] <philor> oh, good, gaia-ui-test is broken on b2g-inbound too
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3086. # [23:43] <philor> WELL PLAYED!
3087. # [23:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2846fd235ad0 - Gregor Wagner - Backout Bug 907463
3088. # [23:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b6f5a4a737c8 - Gregor Wagner - Backout Bug 907463 for causing bug 930575
3089. # [23:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3f22bd55ce6f - Gregor Wagner - Backout Bug 907463
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3097. # [23:53] <sstangl> does the profiler also work on Workers? I'm getting a strong suspicion that it does not.
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3099. # [23:54] <BenWa> sstangl: Have more faith in me
3100. # [23:54] <tbsaunde> BenWa: ^
3101. # [23:54] <BenWa> sstangl: is this for desktop?
3102. # [23:54] <@smaug> I thought it can deal with many threads these days
3103. # [23:54] <sstangl> BenWa: yes, x86_64
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3106. # [23:54] <BenWa> sstangl: Ok, select multithread option and type something like 'GeckoMain,WebWorker'
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3108. # [23:55] <sstangl> BenWa: where's the multithread option?
3109. # [23:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4967a9b78382 - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 881804 (part 4) - Plumb layout into predictive network actions. r=bz
3110. # [23:55] <BenWa> panel bottom left, need to stop profiler to change the options
3111. # [23:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4bcbb58917c9 - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 881804 (part 1) - Add support for predictive network actions. r=mcmanus f=honzab sr=biesi
3112. # [23:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85ebad9a27c9 - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 881804 (part 2) - Plumb docshell into predictive network actions. r=smaug
3113. # [23:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/21813034cb0e - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 881804 (part 3) - Plumb script loader into predictive network actions. r=jst
3114. # [23:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17dbbb898b80 - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 881804 (part 6) - Plumb browser UI into predictive network actions to allow clearing data. r=ttaubert r=mossop f=gavin
3115. # [23:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dbad5acdc1c7 - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 881804 (part 5) - Plumb image loader into predictive network actions. r=seth
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3118. # [23:57] <@smaug> ++hurley
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3120. # [23:57] <@smaug> good that I'm in a place where network connection is only edge. time to tests that predictive stuff tomorrow
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