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# Session Start: Fri Nov 01 00:00:00 2013
# Session Ident: #developers
# [00:00] <@njn> KWierso|sheriffduty: was wondering if I should land that; philor said no yesterday becuase it didn't definitely solve the problems
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# [00:00] <KWierso|sheriffduty> njn, smaug: philor's been tracking this more than I have lately, I'd like to defer to him for both questions :)
# [00:01] <@njn> KWierso|sheriffduty: then again, maybe the tree is ready to open anyway
# [00:01] <@smaug> the tree looks reasonable good atm, although bug 932898 and bug 932880 need to land at some point
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# [00:08] <grobinson> Question: I made a one-line change to a XUL file and ran `mach build`; it's rebuilding a ton of objects and is taking a long time. Is this normal?
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# [00:08] <grobinson> ^^ gps
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# [00:09] <glandium> gps: "most of write I/O during builds is debug symbols" are you surprised? dwarf for libxul.so alone is more than 10 times the size of firefox, including xul, js, etc.
# [00:10] <glandium> grobinson: what objects?
# [00:10] <glandium> grobinson: also, what OS?
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# [00:11] <grobinson> glandium: so many... I see Stack.o, String.o, StringBuffer.o, scrolling by right now
# [00:11] <grobinson> glandium: Linux (Ubuntu 13.04)
# [00:11] <glandium> grobinson: stop the build, and try again with REBUILD_CHECK=1
# [00:11] <grobinson> do I put that in .mozconfig?
# [00:11] <glandium> grobinson: first on the command line
# [00:12] <glandium> REBUILD_CHECK=1 mach build
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# [00:12] <grobinson> ok, trying it
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# [00:18] <grobinson> it's still rebuilding stuff... atm, jsanalyze.o, jsapi.o
# [00:18] <grobinson> they all say "because js/src/jsautokw.h changed"
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# [00:20] <grobinson> ^^ glandium
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# [00:23] <glandium> grobinson: so, this might be related to bug 933361
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# [00:25] <grobinson> yeah, that looks familiar
# [00:25] <grobinson> probably the same
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# [00:41] <@njn> khuey, mccr8, philor, roc, smaug: I've started a post-mortem of this whole leaks debacle at https://etherpad.mozilla.org/mEB0H50ZjX
# [00:41] <@njn> I've filled in details I know about, mostly relating to M2. But I know less about Mbc.
# [00:42] <@njn> please add details, correct my mistakes, etc!
# [00:43] <mccr8> I don't know how far back you want to go with the history of the leakiness of Win7 debug m2 (eg the whole of bug 875585)
# [00:43] <@njn> ttaubert: ^^^
# [00:43] <@njn> mccr8: add info if you think it's relevant
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# [00:46] <Jesse> what is this "shutdown leaks" test? is it something that can be used with fuzzing, or only with mochitest?
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# [00:48] <mccr8> Jesse: it is a BC thing. it checks if things are alive before we shut down, or something like that? using the CC graph? ttaubert knows more.
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# [00:48] <Jesse> do we measure the memory high watermark for mochitest? (e.g. in order to notice when we're getting close to OOMing)
# [00:48] <@khuey> Jesse: we're looking for leaks that persist until shutdown
# [00:49] <@khuey> but are cleaned up by e.g. unloading JS modules or destroying the browser.xul dom
# [00:49] <@khuey> so they don't persist through shutdown
# [00:49] <mccr8> looks like bug 858948 just turned into bug 919856. :-/
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# [00:49] <grobinson> glandium: confirmed I have the same problem as 933361 (it's rebuilding everything a second time now)
# [00:50] <grobinson> should I just clobber? when will the madness end?
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# [00:50] <glandium> grobinson: i don't know. i can't reproduce. Please provide a full log of REBUILD_CHECK=1 mach build -v when it rebuilds everything
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# [00:52] <Jesse> the tests were "disabled on Android for OOMiness"? sigh.
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# [00:55] <tbsaunde> Jesse: tbf android doesn't have much memory so its probably not that hard to legitimately use a lot of memory and anger the oom killer on android
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# [00:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/753a91f79d6f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets d83f69660b5a and b54f084f8e39 (bug 684722) for frequent OSX timeouts.
# [00:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/053a33ad3c5a - Lucas Rocha - Bug 918007 - Factor out method to enable/disable buttons (r=sriram)
# [00:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/47326fb97cf3 - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia-central revision(s) a=gaia-bump
# [00:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e6eb8518fcd3 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 918007 - Use clearEditText() and enterText() to input URLs (r=gbrown)
# [00:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/17e07e67f9ca - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia-central revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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# [00:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fbfc523379ee - Lucas Rocha - Bug 918007 - Disable toolbar elements while in editing mode on tablets (r=sriram)
# [00:58] <glandium> so, do we reopen or not?
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# [01:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4813677c42bf - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound on a CLOSED TREE.
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# [01:08] <KWierso|sheriffduty> glandium: bug 932781 comment 11 has the tree opening requirements
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# [01:10] <glandium> so... not today
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# [01:36] <@njn> markh, mixedpuppy: are either of you actively working on fixing the social API leaks? (bug 932867)
# [01:36] <@njn> looks like the leaks are known, but not yet fixed
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# [01:48] <@khuey> so what's stopping us from reopening?
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# [01:48] <mccr8> bug 933551 now for the social api leaks.
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# [01:48] <@khuey> smaug RyanVM KWierso|sheriffduty ^
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# [01:50] <KWierso|sheriffduty> khuey: bug 932781 comment 11 has the tree opening requirements
# [01:51] <@smaug> I disagree with those requirements :)
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# [01:52] <@khuey> KWierso|sheriffduty: we shouldn't block on the testing stuff imo
# [01:52] <@khuey> at the time we thought the lack of testing was a regression
# [01:52] <@khuey> but I think now we've decided it was a new class of leak we were not catching
# [01:52] * @khuey hasn't been following too closely
# [01:52] <@khuey> but we shouldn't block on that :-)
# [01:52] * KWierso|sheriffduty hasn't really either :(
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# [01:53] <@khuey> well waiting for edmorley and ttaubert means extending the tree closure another 8 hours ...
# [01:54] <KWierso|sheriffduty> khuey: I'm tempted to merge inbound to m-c and then back around and reopen
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# [01:54] <@smaug> that sounds good
# [01:54] <@khuey> indeed
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# [01:56] <@khuey> philor: any reasons not to reopen at this point?
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# [02:03] <philor> khuey: well, my reading of the leak detector stuff is that a) we had new and different sorts of leaks and b) we also shut off leak detection, then added a bunch of the old sort of leak that the detector would have caught if we hadn't shut it off
# [02:03] <@khuey> mmm, I see
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# [02:04] <philor> no skin off my nose, if you want to explain to edmorley that even though we're still leaking in a way that the detector would have caught if it was running, we're just so desperate to push more leaks that we can't stand to stay closed until we would detect them :)
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# [02:05] <AutomatedTester> philor: what are the outstanding items for the tree closure?
# [02:06] <glandium> philor: on the other hand, the leak detector was shut off a long time ago, and those leaks are already riding the train
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# [02:07] <philor> glandium: isn't every single bit of this on aurora?
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# [02:08] <glandium> philor: that's what i'm saying ; and probably beta
# [02:08] <philor> well, every single bit except the last 100 bytes that shoved us over into actual OOM and leak, not counting M2, which is absolutely there
# [02:08] <philor> glandium: no, I'm saying that everything which has been fixed so far, that the stuff which was fixed for M2 and bc was not fixes for things introduced since Monday
# [02:09] <philor> so "it's already riding the trains" would have been an excuse to not close at all
# [02:09] <philor> after all, the M2 wasn't hurting anything, we were already at shutdown
# [02:09] <mccr8> well, the fix for that was just to fix the crummy test
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# [02:11] <philor> AutomatedTester: from edmorley's list, they are bug 932898, which is waiting on addressing review comments and maybe fixing a few false positives, not sure, and bug 932880 which is the stuff the leak detector would have caught had it still been running
# [02:12] <AutomatedTester> philor: thanks
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# [02:13] <philor> and maybe revert bug 932159, since I suspect that I hid ASan bc and made it become less effective because of the existence of the bug 932880 leaks, dunno
# [02:14] <philor> except that during the first few hours after I hid it, we apparently broke it
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# [02:19] <@roc> FWIW I think we should reopen. We can't stay closed to fix all the leaks that have piled up over a period of months
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# [02:20] <@roc> but of course getting the leak tests reenabled and all the failures fixed should be top priority for whoever's responsible
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# [02:21] <mjrosenb> hrmm, should I upgrade my mac mini to mavericks?
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# [02:23] <@njn> mjrosenb: I'd wait longer
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# [02:24] <mjrosenb> note: my mac mini doesn't actually work currently. Evidently, I need to upgrade xcode.
# [02:24] <@khuey> roc: +1
# [02:25] <glandium> roc++
# [02:26] <@njn> I concur that we should reopen
# [02:26] <@njn> I'll do my best to nag people about the not-yet-fixed things
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# [02:30] <@roc> who pulls the switch? philor?
# [02:31] <froydnj> anybody who can log in to buildstatus
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# [02:31] <@khuey> treestatus
# [02:31] <froydnj> yeah, that
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# [02:33] <@njn> bgrins: re bug 932880, we have:
# [02:33] <@njn> - one patch landed
# [02:33] <@njn> - two patches awaiting review
# [02:33] <@njn> - one patch with r+, awaiting try results
# [02:33] <@njn> Is that right?
# [02:33] <mjrosenb> I can't figure out how to run xcode.
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# [02:34] <philor> yeah, and whoever it is that's signing up to watch the tree for the next 6 to 7 hours until the next paid sheriff shows up can log in to treestatus, by definition, since they're going to be in and out of it for that entire time
# [02:34] <KWierso|sheriffduty> oops
# [02:34] <KWierso|sheriffduty> just opened the trees
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# [02:34] <bgrins> njn yes, the r+ patch fixes most of the leaks. The two r? patches are most likely not going to be needed for this bug but still working that out
# [02:35] <bgrins> I have another patch in the making that takes care of most of the others
# [02:35] <@njn> bgrins: great!
# [02:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de06b0e593e6 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 815467 - Store pldhash's recursionLevel in a better place, so that debug and non-debug pldhashes take up the same amount of memory. r=dbaron.
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# [02:36] <glandium> it's good to unload
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# [02:36] * @njn gets nervous if he doesn't land a patch for a few days
# [02:37] <glandium> that will make bz happy, since now make foo.i works with pymae
# [02:37] <glandium> +k
# [02:37] <@khuey> yay
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# [02:39] <@njn> philor: is there a bug for the M-bc failures?
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# [02:49] <@njn> glandium: I can't believe only two pushes have occurred
# [02:49] <glandium> njn: we're in the right timezone
# [02:49] <@njn> glandium: though yours is a multi-bug monster
# [02:49] <glandium> njn: the others are trick-or-treating
# [02:49] <@njn> mmm, true
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# [02:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a9ad2b09c37f - Matt Woodrow - Bug 887791 - Add MacIOSurfaceImage. r=roc
# [02:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/feb665b0ffb7 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 887791 - Implement ISharedImage for MacIOSurfaceImage. r=nical
# [02:51] <RyanVM> glandium: njn: honestly, this probably was the best time of day to re-open for avoiding pileups
# [02:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d521539a285 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 887791 - Add a TextureClient implementation for MacIOSurface. r=nical
# [02:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d73c866f9c0c - Matt Woodrow - Bug 887791 - Remove a bunch of now-unused SharedTextureHandle code. r=roc
# [02:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8f551ea01b0c - Matt Woodrow - Bug 887791 - Use the MacIOSurface TextureClient/Host for sharing MacIOSurface objects. r=roc
# [02:52] <RyanVM> and maybe we'll get lucky and people will have actually pushed their patches to Try in the mean time!
# [02:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1e603203bce - Matt Woodrow - Bug 887791 - Add a TextureHost implementation for MacIOSurface. r=nical
# [02:52] <KWierso|sheriffduty> RyanVM: good one
# [02:52] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: i crack myself up
# [02:52] <glandium> RyanVM: i did
# [02:53] <RyanVM> njn: fwiw, I will most certainly be uplifting any test fixes to all applicable branches
# [02:53] <RyanVM> tracking or not
# [02:53] <@njn> RyanVM: just being careful
# [02:53] <@njn> :)
# [02:54] <RyanVM> a=test-only is a beautiful thing :) :D
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# [03:02] <@bz> ooh
# [03:02] <@bz> open tree
# [03:02] * @bz ponders
# [03:02] <KWierso|sheriffduty> be gentle
# [03:02] <@bz> I tried my stuff
# [03:02] <@bz> we'll see whether that makes a difference...
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# [03:04] <firebot> Check-in:
# [03:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e052d7967418 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 882541 part 2. Fix a bug that crept in with overloading a string and a nullable number and then passing in null, due to the number conversion being conditional on
# [03:04] <firebot> the input type in that case. r=khuey
# [03:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dfaf4e97dc29 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 882541 part 1. Don't require all arguments after an optional argument to be optional. r=khuey
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# [03:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2add7fd1a74 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 932421. Stop including windows.h (via Hal.h) in Screen.h, so we don't screw up our bindings code. r=smaug
# [03:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b7e11343c6e2 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 932998. Don't try to codegen code that keeps alive objects with 'owned' nativeOwnership, since we have no way to do that. r=smaug
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# [03:05] <seth> when exactly is OnPageShow called? is that post-document-onload, so I can presume that nsHTMLImageElement's have nsImageFrame (rather than the placeholder frame) if they're going to?
# [03:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd1cfd84378d - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 882541 part 3. Rework the overload resolution algorithm to WebIDL spec changes in handling of optional arguments. r=khuey
# [03:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/250ae9645c79 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 882541 part 4. Treat undefined as missing for optional WebIDL arguments. r=khuey,ms2ger
# [03:05] <seth> bz: maybe you know offhand? ^
# [03:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ca072ad958c - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 933087. Make sure we don't violate stack discipline for Rooted, even when playing Maybe<Rooted> games. r=khuey
# [03:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a150cb6978b6 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 925737. Allow copy-constructing owning unions with safe enough members. r=peterv
# [03:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/90ca96b3e198 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 932870. Cache the "invalid selector" state in our parsed-selector cache as well when doing querySelector(All). r=smaug
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# [03:06] <mjrosenb> bz: "gentle"
# [03:06] <@bz> seth: onpageshow is basically same-timing as onload during normal loads
# [03:07] <@bz> seth: also called when coming out of bfcache
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# [03:07] <@bz> seth: You can't assume anything about frames unless you flush....
# [03:07] <seth> bz: flushing is required just to get the frames constructed?
# [03:07] <@bz> seth: What are you actually trying to do?
# [03:07] <seth> bz: good to know
# [03:07] <@bz> seth: Frame construction is lazy
# [03:08] <seth> bz: i'm trying to add some code on ImageDocument.cpp that needs to talk to the nsImageFrame it uses internally (via nsHTMLImageElement). the problem is that running that code in OnStopRequest for the image, i sometimes hit the case where the placeholder frame is still there instead of the nsImageFrame
# [03:09] <@bz> sure, because we don't reframe it sync
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# [03:09] <seth> bz: sounds like i need to flush and all will be well, although i may need to move this stuff to OnPageShow anyway because i don't know how i could guarantee which order the callbacks get called
# [03:10] <@bz> seth: why not use an onload handler on the HTMLImageElement itself?
# [03:10] <seth> Jesse: not sure how that could happen. this is an image document, there's no user code. (other than addon code i suppose)
# [03:10] <@bz> seth: Some page sticks the image document in an iframe, then runs script that messes with it
# [03:10] <seth> bz: because the HTMLImageElement doesn't know about the ImageDocument, AFAIK
# [03:10] <@bz> seth: totally doable
# [03:10] <@bz> seth: the ImageDocument could add an onload listener to the HTMLImageElement
# [03:11] <@bz> seth: again, nothing says it won't get called multiple times, etc
# [03:11] <seth> bz: hmm, i see. not really much of an issue, anyway, since i just need to get the nsImageFrame's width and height
# [03:11] <@bz> seth: if page script changes the .src of that image
# [03:11] <@bz> As long as your code is not exploitable in that case, it's probably fine
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# [03:12] <seth> bz: that should be fine. hmm.. there might already be a listener on the HTMLImageElement, actually
# [03:12] <@bz> mjrosenb: I'm being gentle
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# [03:13] <seth> ah, no, just a MediaDocumentStreamListener. i'll have to investigate that to figure out if the timing on it is right...
# [03:13] <RyanVM> bz: at least give it 20 minutes to simmer first :P
# [03:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a329ad27e57 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 930851 (part 1) - Make child process naming consistent in both memory reporting paths. r=khuey.
# [03:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9fe573bc59d8 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 930851 (part 2) - Inline some functions in aboutMemory.js that have a single call site. r=johns.
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# [03:14] <mjrosenb> "to simmer" are we making mozilla-pies?
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# [03:22] <@njn> mattwoodrow: ping
# [03:23] <mattwoodrow> njn: pong
# [03:23] <@njn> mattwoodrow: is the regression in bug 887791 in FF24?
# [03:23] <@njn> June 21 looks like it is
# [03:24] <@njn> mattwoodrow: and bug 756601 says FF24
# [03:24] <@njn> mattwoodrow: so I'm wondering if you should backport the fixes, and how far
# [03:25] <bgrins> njn just an update on on 932880 the r+ patch (resolves more leaks) is ready to be checked in
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# [03:25] <@njn> mattwoodrow: the fixes are complex enough that I suspect "Aurora but not Beta" would be appropriate
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# [03:25] <@njn> bgrins: I'm confused about the state of that bug
# [03:25] <bgrins> njn when there are that many patches, what is the best way to mark it as needing checkin?
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# [03:26] <@bz> ryanvm: That red isn't me, right?
# [03:26] <@njn> bgrins: just mark them invidiually, AFAIK
# [03:26] <RyanVM> bz: no
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# [03:27] <@njn> bgrins: are you landing on mozilla-inbound or mozilla-central?
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# [03:27] <RyanVM> bgrins: put checkin? on each patch
# [03:27] <RyanVM> that's what it's there for :)
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# [03:27] <RyanVM> put checkin+ on the one that landed if it doesn't already have it too :)
# [03:27] <@njn> bgrins: do you not have push privileges?
# [03:27] <mattwoodrow> njn: Yeah, I'd agree with that
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# [03:27] <RyanVM> bgrins: need me to land it for you?
# [03:27] <mattwoodrow> maybe beta, since it's the start of the cycle, but it's somewhat risky
# [03:28] <bgrins> RyanVM yes please
# [03:28] <@njn> mattwoodrow: can you nominate them for aurora?
# [03:28] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: if you want to get it on beta, best to ask asap :)
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# [03:28] <mattwoodrow> Don't I need to wait for them to actually make it to m-c first?
# [03:28] <RyanVM> bgrins: on it :)
# [03:28] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: you can request whenever you want
# [03:28] <RyanVM> being on m-c makes a stronger case, but it isn't mandatory
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# [03:30] <RyanVM> bgrins: that said, the commit message could use some work ;)
# [03:30] <RyanVM> bgrins: the commit message should be a brief description of what the patch is actually doing
# [03:30] <RyanVM> bgrins: I'm going to go with "Fix a bunch of devtools test leaks"
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# [03:31] <bgrins> RyanVM: OK, will have a better message on the next one :)
# [03:31] <RyanVM> bgrins: thanks :)
# [03:32] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: well, long descriptions following the short one can be really nice sometimes :0
# [03:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/885ec75e5600 - Brian Grinstead - Bug 932880 - Fix a bunch of devtools test leaks. r=past
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# [03:32] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: no argument there!
# [03:32] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: TBPL only shows the first line, so that's all I care about :)
# [03:32] <RyanVM> you can put a small novel after that for all I care :)
# [03:32] <@khuey> firebot: uuid
# [03:32] <firebot> 0934f444-7496-4a33-8a91-c1f410bf0c5b (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
# [03:32] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: :-P
# [03:33] <RyanVM> bgrins: thanks for all the work on fixing this, by the way :)
# [03:33] <bgrins> njn I just wasn't sure of the process. Just got access to push to fx-team for devtools
# [03:33] <RyanVM> khuey: you too
# [03:33] <RyanVM> njn: you too
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# [03:33] <RyanVM> bgrins: if you can push to fx-team, you can push to inbound too
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# [03:33] <RyanVM> level 3 will work anywhere :)
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# [03:35] <bgrins> RyanVM I'm not 100% clear on why this would be pushed to inbound instead of fx-team?
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# [03:35] <Callek> (e.g. not github, not some infra repos, etc)
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# [03:36] <glandium> why is ccache being a problem on b2g builds only?
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# [03:42] <seth> bz: waiting for the load event on HTMLImageElement was just the ticket, thanks. works perfectly
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# [03:43] <seth> in retrospect it's the obvious thing you'd do if you were coding in js. i guess in content i need to start thinking that way...
# [03:43] <@njn> khuey: |mach uuid| gives a uuid in both formats
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# [03:44] <@khuey> njn: I only wanted one :-P
# [03:44] <@khuey> plus I'd rather exhaust firebot's supply of uuids than mine
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# [03:45] <@njn> khuey: tbsaunde can't steal your mach-geenrated ones
# [03:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/894f66bd6116 - Garrett Robinson - Bug 924708 - Fix regression of report-only CSP's that use policy-uri. r=sstamm
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# [03:50] <RyanVM> bgrins: honestly, it really doesn't matter that much in the end
# [03:50] <RyanVM> bgrins: but since the other work has been on inbound, I just went with that
# [03:50] <RyanVM> bgrins: you'll probably want to stick to fx-team in the future to lessen the possibility of merge conflicts, though :)
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# [04:13] <RyanVM> man, gal must be riding a lot of planes lately
# [04:13] <@roc> I believe that is true
# [04:14] <philor> RyanVM: how was Gu ever green on 1.2?
# [04:14] <philor> it was permared on aurora, had been for ten days or so
# [04:14] <RyanVM> roc: i've landed 3 of his patches today :P
# [04:14] <RyanVM> philor: dunno, but it was, I swear!
# [04:15] <philor> I'd suspect the base of 1.2 was broken, then
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# [04:16] <RyanVM> philor: but I also know that I have little to no desire to investigate at 11:20pm
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# [04:17] <philor> https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/1f615d41599e
# [04:18] <philor> which reminds me to fix bug 931319
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# [04:28] * @njn wonders if inbound should be closed to let it settle for a while
# [04:29] <RyanVM> njn: i'm done with checkin-needed bugs, so sure :P
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# [04:34] <KWierso|sheriffduty> RyanVM: want me to close it until europe shows up?
# [04:35] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: honestly, I think the worst of it is over at this point
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# [04:38] <RyanVM> snorp: inbound bustage
# [04:38] <RyanVM> snorp: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=29944449&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [04:38] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: looks like we have our first cannon fodder
# [04:40] <@khuey> he had so long to push to try too
# [04:41] <RyanVM> khuey: in fairness, his is the only bustage post-reopening
# [04:41] <RyanVM> which is much better than I expected :P
# [04:42] <@khuey> it's late
# [04:42] <@khuey> that helped
# [04:42] <RyanVM> absolutely
# [04:42] <@khuey> reopening at 11 am pdt would have been a mess
# [04:42] <KWierso|sheriffduty> RyanVM: so 428bea088d2b ?
# [04:42] <RyanVM> yes
# [04:42] <KWierso|sheriffduty> on it
# [04:42] <RyanVM> looks like osx debug bustage
# [04:43] <RyanVM> not seeing any other busted platforms
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# [04:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b82e113f85e - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 428bea088d2b (bug 927254) for build bustage
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# [04:47] <RyanVM> KWierso: I'm just more amazed that the "viewing tbpl logs is god-awful" bug is actually getting attention again
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# [04:48] <KWierso> RyanVM: that ASAN bustage is andreas's, right?
# [04:49] <RyanVM> KWierso: looked like the same as snorps to me, but I admittedly didn't look that closely
# [04:49] <KWierso> RyanVM: nevermind, yeah
# [04:49] <RyanVM> so maybe the common link is clang debug
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# [05:07] <rnewman> mjrosenb: could you take a look at your action in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=913985, comment 85?
# [05:07] <rnewman> mjrosenb: we'd like to land this soon
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# [05:07] <rnewman> mjrosenb: at this point I'd just land this and file a bug on the asm.js test suite
# [05:08] <mjrosenb> whoops. totally forgot about that.
# [05:08] * mjrosenb goes to the top and finds out the str
# [05:08] <rnewman> ta
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# [05:09] <mjrosenb> was it failing on armv6, or the normal tests?
# [05:10] <rnewman> not clear
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# [05:11] <rnewman> could push another try build and see, but that'll take a while
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# [05:12] <ckitching> There is, by this point, a not insignificant amount of unbitrotting to be done to acheive that, methinks.
# [05:12] <ckitching> Well, unles you can just parent it off the older version.
# [05:12] <ckitching> Blurgh.
# [05:12] <ckitching> I'm a moron at 0415.
# [05:12] <rnewman> ckitching, go and sleep
# [05:12] <rnewman> diminishing returns, dude
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# [05:14] <mjrosenb> ok, presumably, I can just hg update to the brief time that it was on m-i to reproduce it
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# [05:15] <rnewman> ^5
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# [05:18] <philor> and another one comes out
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# [05:19] <philor> too bad we foolishly closed try so nobody could push a -b do -p all -u all while we were closed for days
# [05:20] <glandium> philor: backout jesup
# [05:20] <philor> glandium: that's rather what I had in mind
# [05:20] <philor> though without alerting him so he wouldn't have a chance to claim that one was innocent
# [05:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f477a4fe4c32 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 80bfcf2d28c7 (bug 933384) and f2757e7d1a08 (bug 932215) for bustage
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# [05:26] <philor> nothing tickles my love of evil half as much as backing out something with a premature approval-aurora request, people should do that more often
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# [05:32] <jesup> I'm innocent! :-) Seriously, let me look in any case.
# [05:32] <mjrosenb> philor: backning out on m-c?
# [05:33] <philor> jesup: look ahead, but I already backed you out and I'm on to the next backout
# [05:33] <philor> mjrosenb: is there something there I need to back out?
# [05:33] <philor> it'll have to wait while I figure out who broke, um, canvas on android?
# [05:34] <philor> which I suppose was gal?
# [05:34] <jesup> philor: Yeah, looks like my fake:true fix missed something....
# [05:34] <philor> or maybe it's just more snorp
# [05:35] <philor> looks like this'll be the bustage that closes us for a while
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# [05:36] <philor> unless the same bustage shows on one of the few things that built on snorp's push
# [05:36] <jesup> That's what I get for fixing someone else's bug....
# [05:37] <mattwoodrow> philor: That's gal
# [05:37] <philor> mattwoodrow: thanks!
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# [05:38] <mjrosenb> philor: just reading your comment from :30.
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# [05:42] <philor> mmm, gal's going to light things up, isn't he?
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# [05:44] <philor> okay, 1 hour penalty for everyone, I'm setting an alarm to look at the tree at 10:45
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# [05:46] <philor> and any time anyone is wondering what it would cost if they don't bother pushing to try, that'd be the answer
# [05:46] <jesup> ok, figured it out; excessive use of raw pointers and booleans to control deleting (historical from anant), made it fragile when ayang started playing with it. Switching it to RefPtrs
# [05:46] <glandium> philor: it wasn't gal
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# [05:46] <philor> or any time anyone is looking at the forthcoming terrible idea of putting dollar figures on pushes to try
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# [05:47] <@khuey> we should give people extra dollars for pushing to try
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# [05:47] <philor> glandium: depress me, tell me more
# [05:48] <glandium> philor: oranges on snorp's push
# [05:48] <glandium> philor: they're not on my tbpl, but they are on self-serve
# [05:48] <philor> glandium: self-serve shows you where coalesced jobs ended up
# [05:49] <philor> so if 90% of snorp's tests wound up being run on gal's push, then self-serve will show them for snorp's push, because that way you can retrigger them and get them run on snorp's push itself, but shows them with the results of gal's push
# [05:49] <glandium> philor: omfg
# [05:49] <glandium> when do we stop coalescing
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# [05:50] <glandium> seriously
# [05:50] <@khuey> lol
# [05:50] <philor> it's one handy feature, and a billion mistaken conclusions drawn from it
# [05:50] <glandium> philor: not for tests
# [05:51] <glandium> seriously, if there is a build, there should be tests on that build
# [05:51] <philor> arguably it would be better for self-serve to just show the job without showing the result
# [05:51] <glandium> always
# [05:51] <philor> oh, I wasn't saying that coalescing was a handy feature
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# [05:51] <philor> coalescing is what we have to have, that's the single good thing about it
# [05:52] <mjrosenb> philor: but the fact that we have to have it is not a good thing.
# [05:52] <philor> it's undeniable shit, but unless people (that'd be the people who were practically wetting themselves about not pushing for two days) are willing to take a number which might be the number saying they can push at 4am, we're going to coalesce
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# [05:54] <mjrosenb> have we ever calculated how many slaves it would require to run a full testsuite on every push? or is that not the limiting factor?
# [05:55] <glandium> philor: arguably, we could have something that automerges successful trys (for some value of successful) at night PDT
# [05:55] <philor> that is indeed the limiting factor, and the numbers you need are probably in joduinn's monthly infra load blog posts
# [05:55] <philor> ohgodautomerge
# [05:56] <sfink> some slave flavors are no longer purchasable
# [05:56] <philor> sfink: stop thinking small, that's only a problem if you aren't willing to replace the entire pool
# [05:56] <philor> we're thinking big here!
# [05:56] <philor> since we're going to need to replace pools of 80 with pools of 500, replacing the existing 80 is nothing
# [05:57] <sfink> that solves part of it, but I thought we wanted to test on some hardware that's still fairly common in the field, but not purchasable anymore
# [05:57] <sfink> I could be wrong
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# [05:57] <sfink> maybe you really can buy garlic-lemon-chocolate fries if you really want to
# [05:57] <glandium> we could also group tests that haven't failed for a very long time together, and only run them occasionally
# [05:57] * @khuey srhugs
# [05:57] <@khuey> *shrugs
# [05:57] <glandium> (I'm sure there are *plenty* of such tests)
# [05:57] <@khuey> we used to have a tinderbox that just ran tests on pentium 2s and crap
# [05:57] <sfink> glandium: that's another sort of coalescing
# [05:57] <@khuey> nobody cares about them
# [05:57] <philor> maybe you can't buy minis that will still run 10.6, never been an actual possibility so I've never wondered that
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# [05:59] <sfink> but I agree with the basic idea, that we should compute the risk and reward for each of our tests, group them, and schedule them differently
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# [05:59] <philor> but other than that, none of our stuff even remotely resembles anything people actually use
# [05:59] <sfink> you don't want a slow test that never fails
# [05:59] <philor> the Linux tests run on ec2, the Windows tests are some sort of 4 boards in a 1U thing
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# [06:01] <sfink> well, I'd hope we could use computers to do the computing
# [06:01] <sfink> they're supposedly good at that
# [06:01] <sfink> though I have my doubts
# [06:02] <sfink> we just need to make better use of the raw data (oranges, backouts, etc.) that you're feeding in
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# [06:06] <philor> I'm actually sitting here thinking about how this is the best order for multiple bustages, leak first so it's visible, then debug build bustage so the leak doesn't get to run, then near-total bustage on the debug build bustage so it's only on opt tests
# [06:06] <philor> somebody shoot me
# [06:07] <capella> bang
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# [06:12] <philor> Test page expected to fail, but all 0 tests passed
# [06:12] <philor> you crazy, test_webgl_conformance
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# [06:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6a2e7988d9d9 - Doug Turner - Backing out 0f687f920370
# [06:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a8c00f1dfc77 - Doug Turner - Backing out 7fe2c77ebbf2
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# [06:14] <sfink> Oh, lovely. gtest crash stacks aren't symbolicated?
# [06:14] <sfink> symbolified
# [06:14] <sfink> symbolized
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# [06:19] <philor> "are crap"
# [06:19] <mjrosenb> *ssssmbolism*
# [06:19] <sfink> prepare to be ensymbolated. resistance is futile.
# [06:19] <@njn> embolism
# [06:20] <mjrosenb> wow, I typoed while quoting a movie :-(
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# [06:24] <MattN> philor: hey, I accidentally missed a patch in my push to fx-team so I did another push with it. This means the first push will have mochitest failures. Should we cancel the first set of builds/tests?
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# [06:25] <philor> MattN: sure, might as well, makes it clearer that they're expected to die
# [06:26] <philor> MattN: you know where the button is for non-try pushes?
# [06:26] <MattN> philor: can I just click the cancel all builds button on self-serve? I remember that caused problems before
# [06:26] <MattN> does it auto-clobber nowadays
# [06:26] <MattN> ?
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# [06:27] <philor> MattN: you can indeed; it auto-clobbers, and in a situation like that, even though the kill may follow coalescing, you'll only kill a build on the tip push that's just a few minutes started
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# [06:28] <MattN> I don't follow the last part. Is it fine to push it now?
# [06:28] <philor> and it may well be that the kill-all button doesn't do that, and only killing stuff from tbpl, or killing stuff that's pending when you kill it but running when it dies does
# [06:28] <philor> MattN: push the button!
# [06:28] <MattN> thanks. done.
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# [06:29] <fabrice> glandium: which ones?
# [06:29] <MattN> I'll star
# [06:29] <philor> MattN: the last part will only interest you if, after you push the button, one of the builds on your good push dies
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# [06:29] <glandium> fabrice: b2g.icns b2g.ico
# [06:29] <fabrice> please file
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# [06:29] <glandium> fabrice: note that we're apparently doing nothing with b2g.ico
# [06:29] <rcampbelllaos> Got a question. The plan to update to ICU 52.1. Will that include the Lao word-break support, or does that needed to be added in addition to updating to ICU 52.1?
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# [06:30] <@khuey> we're not using ICU for word breaking yet
# [06:30] <@khuey> afaik
# [06:30] <glandium> khuey: indeed
# [06:30] <fabrice> glandium: we should check with ochameau, I think he added that
# [06:31] <rcampbelllaos> I think Thai is? I found a break iterator for it in the code, I thought
# [06:31] <glandium> fabrice: and b2g.icns is rather generic looking, but i guess it would become branded at some point
# [06:31] <rcampbelllaos> Lao is similar, in that they don't use spaces for words, so lines keep going like on http://laosabbathschool.com
# [06:31] <glandium> rcampbelllaos: thai is using a specific lib iirc
# [06:31] <fabrice> glandium: yeah, it's for desktop builds that are not even official products (yet)
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# [06:32] <glandium> fabrice: what is the "simulator" addon using?
# [06:32] <rcampbelllaos> glandium: do you think it's possible to add Lao support to that with a dictioanry/word list?
# [06:32] <glandium> rcampbelllaos: no idea
# [06:32] <fabrice> glandium: I'm not sure if they have other icons or not
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# [06:33] <philor> mjrosenb: oh, I finally got what you meant; no, I sometimes back something out on inbound, 30 minutes or an hour after it was pushed, and when I go to comment about the backout, the assignee has already requested approval-aurora because "it's perfectly safe and we must land it there right away, this minute" :)
# [06:33] <rcampbelllaos> glandium: Ok, think I should add a bug for that?
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# [06:34] <glandium> rcampbelllaos: i... don't know. ask smontagu
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# [06:35] <glandium> philor: impressive
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# [06:37] <mjrosenb> has anyone seen something like this: ../../dist/include/AndroidBridge.h:335:38: sorry, unimplemented: non-static data member initializers
# [06:37] <mjrosenb> ?
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# [06:37] <glandium> mjrosenb: no
# [06:38] <mjrosenb> gah... this is makeing testing the test failure rather annoying.
# [06:39] * @njn is amused that we have both dmajor and dminor
# [06:39] <glandium> do we have dsharp?
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# [06:40] <dsharp> we do now.
# [06:40] <dsharp> 335 GeckoLayerClient *mLayerClient = NULL;
# [06:40] <glandium> dsharpmajor7th
# [06:40] <dsharp> hrmm, evidently NULL is non-static?
# [06:40] <glob> njn, hehe i noticed that yesterday :) it's a shame gavin's name doesn't start with a d
# [06:40] <@njn> glob: oh, I have a question for y ou
# [06:41] <glob> njn, hai!
# [06:41] <@njn> glob: sometimes on bugzilla, if you upload a gzipped attachment, it gzips it again
# [06:41] <dsharp> glob: we could always try to hire danielle sharp.
# [06:41] <glob> njn, let me find the bug
# [06:41] <@njn> glob: is there a bug open about this?
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# [06:41] <glandium> philor: looks like it *was* gal
# [06:41] <philor> in the Inbound, with the Lead Pipe
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# [06:42] <glob> njn, bug 879764 .. tl;dr apache's gzipping it, not bugzilla.
# [06:42] <glob> (or zeus)
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# [06:43] <@njn> glob: ah, so wget avoids it, interesting
# [06:43] <dsharp> what ndk is required these days?
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# [06:43] <mjrosenb> enough of that joke.
# [06:43] <glob> njn, only because it doesn't send an accept-encoding header by default
# [06:43] <dmajor> somebody at summit asked if I program in F# but not C. apparently if I understood music that would be a brilliant joke.
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# [06:44] <mjrosenb> anyhow, anyone know about ndk requirements?
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# [06:45] <mjrosenb> wiki still thinks it is r8e :-/
# [06:46] <philor> I bet configure.in knows
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# [06:47] <philor> well now, who had some ipc in the middle of that swath of orange?
# [06:47] <capella> r8e is what I use and I thought that's official
# [06:47] <glandium> mjrosenb: i recently built with r5c
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# [06:49] <mjrosenb> so, I'm guessing the = NULL is just superfluous, so I nuked it.
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# [06:51] <rnewman> mjrosenb: I'm using r8e locally with success
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# [06:52] <philor> okay, the pile's getting thin, let's land some more bustage
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# [06:52] <philor> wups, no, let's not
# [06:53] <philor> thought sure that ipc failure would be a one-off
# [06:53] <philor> especially since both of them were green on the backout below the tip backout
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# [06:55] <ckerschb> frontend experts : in a browser mochitest i am calling synthesizeMouseAtCenter wiht type : "contextmenu", the contextMenu opens - the question is: how can i do a selection. does anyone know?
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# [07:11] <glandium> philor: happy with the new orange?
# [07:11] <philor> glandium: deeply unhappy with it
# [07:12] <philor> absolutely no idea where that's coming from
# [07:13] <glandium> philor: clobber?
# [07:14] <philor> I like the sound of that - clobber and and email, and I can go to bed
# [07:15] <glandium> philor: makes me think of something: it would be nice to be able to trigger a single clobber build like "this retrigger here, make it a clobber" ; and then, if that works out, clobber more generally ; but that would avoid inflicting clobbers when it actually doesn't solve anything
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# [07:17] <philor> crap, that build's already a clobber
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# [07:17] <philor> as was the green one below it
# [07:18] <philor> wrong week, sniffing glue, etc.
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# [07:21] <glandium> philor: note, that build had 5662 ccache hits...
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# [07:23] <philor> but ccache is absolutely perfect, isn't it?
# [07:24] <glandium> philor: ccache, maybe, but the build using it before...
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# [07:25] <philor> well, if a clobbered build will not be clobbered, because it will be using miscompiled code from ccache without ccache realizing that it should have missed because things changed, then that's a P1 blocker and another extended tree closure to stop using ccache
# [07:26] <philor> so, tell me what to do
# [07:26] <philor> but none of the options are "just trigger another build, and if that one has working tests, everything's fine"
# [07:26] <glandium> what's the last change to dom/ipc?
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# [07:27] <philor> remember when mxr used to be able to tell us that, from bonsai I think? good times...
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# [07:29] <glandium> https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/ipc/ContentParent.cpp#1454 this is the assertion that's being hit
# [07:30] <glandium> so this is omtc/layers related
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# [07:31] <glandium> and it's actually quite intermittent
# [07:31] <philor> can we blame https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/05be2f73979e? it's conveniently close
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# [07:32] <glandium> philor: that's a good candidate
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# [07:33] <glandium> philor: may want to retrigger on the push prior to tip, too
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# [07:34] <philor> yeah, 40%er could easily have slipped by a few things
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# [07:35] <glandium> philor: 05be2f73979e is kind of old, though
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# [07:35] <philor> did zero of the affected test runs
# [07:35] <philor> it's child did one
# [07:35] <glandium> philor: if it were that i'd have expected failures between the tree reopening and the tree going into flames again
# [07:36] <philor> its grandchild started leaking, and I starred them half-blind
# [07:36] <philor> its great granchild did zero
# [07:37] <philor> then we stopped building on debug at all
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# [07:38] <philor> it's also 23:37, so I can either back it out and leave the tree closed, or I can not back it out and leave the tree closed, but the choices are rapidly narrowing
# [07:38] * KWierso votes for the first option
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# [07:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2a4a1d7f06a4 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 05be2f73979e (bug 902755) on suspicion of causing Mac debug mochitest-2 assertions
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# [07:41] <philor> always nice to leave a few surprises for whoever that was that was doing whatever project that was that caused him to look at every starring comment, and find some of my gems :)
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# [07:42] <WeirdAl> linear algebra at night? nope! assembly language at all? nope!
# [07:43] <gaston> glandium: yes ?
# [07:43] <@khuey> philor: what do you star them as?
# [07:44] <@khuey> "fuck this test suite; diaf"?
# [07:44] <glandium> gaston: unping
# [07:44] <philor> khuey: this one? "totally fucking stupid pointless moronic waste of resources we pretend we don't have to waste"
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# [07:57] <philor> okay, sheriffs@ notified of the state of the tree, you'll know it's time to start hoping for reopening when you see edmorley or Tomcat retriggering twenty Mac debug mochitest-2s, and I'm going to make it to bed before midnight for once
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# [07:59] <sfink> that's a great idea
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# [08:01] <glandium> philor|away: it's too gree on f477a4fe4c32 :(
# [08:01] <glandium> +n
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# [08:21] <@khuey> hmm
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# [08:21] <@khuey> so I got a first LDAP pw notice
# [08:21] <@khuey> and a second
# [08:21] <@khuey> but not a third
# [08:21] <@khuey> did I actually remember to change this?
# [08:21] <mjrosenb> khuey: yay, you don't have to change you password ever again!
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# [08:22] <@khuey> mjrosenb: we changed the rules?
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# [08:23] <mjrosenb> khuey: more along the lines of mr. burns' 3 stooges syndrome.
# [08:23] <@khuey> whatever you're trying to tell me I'm failing to comprehend :-)
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# [08:24] <mjrosenb> friday... afternoon?
# [08:24] <mjrosenb> khuey: do you just live on an airplane?
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# [08:26] <@khuey> mjrosenb: no, I'm in .tw right now
# [08:26] <@khuey> been here for a while
# [08:26] <@khuey> mjrosenb: in fact, I haven't been on a plane this month
# [08:26] <@khuey> which since it's friday here ... :-P
# [08:26] <@khuey> true but vacuous statements ftw
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# [08:34] <glob> khuey, they relaxed the rules
# [08:34] <glob> khuey, it doesn't expire every 3 months anymore
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# [08:35] <glob> "IT and OpsSec are working on moving the rotation cycle from 3 months, to 6 months and to 1 year! "
# [08:35] <glob> "In addition passwords will no longer expire on weekends, and actually will expire only on Wednesdays and provide you the ability to reset your password. "
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# [08:37] <@khuey> glob: \o/
# [08:37] <@khuey> glob: where is this?
# [08:37] <@khuey> ah
# [08:37] <@khuey> sylvie's email
# [08:37] <glob> yup
# [08:37] <@khuey> from a month ago
# [08:38] <@khuey> ok then
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# [08:41] <KWierso> retriggers... retriggered...
# [08:42] <KWierso> Tomcat|away and edmorley can take it from here :)
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# [08:44] <mjrosenb> ok, if I have a failure with {file: "http://mochi.test:8888/tests/js/xpconnect/tests/mochitest/test_asmjs.html" line: 0}, what path do I need to give to mochitests?
# [08:45] <@khuey> js/xpconnect/tests/mochitest/test_asmjs.html
# [08:45] <@khuey> e.g. ./mach mochitest-plain <that>
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# [08:46] <mjrosenb> khuey: well, jimdb c.c
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# [08:47] <mjrosenb> https://gist.github.com/7262087 :-(
# [08:47] <@khuey> *shrug*
# [08:47] <@khuey> sucks to be you
# [08:48] <mjrosenb> khuey: thaaaanks.
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# [08:50] <@khuey> mjrosenb: sorry :-(
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# [08:51] <mjrosenb> I guess I'll poke jchen when he's on tomorrow.
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# [09:41] <timdream> is there a way to trigger Gaia pushbot to generate a new tbpl test run except for wait for it?
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# [09:42] <edmorley> timdream: no, but you can update the file manually if needed
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# [09:42] <timdream> edmorley: update which file?
# [09:43] <edmorley|sheriffduty> timdream: the same one that the pushbot updates
# [09:43] <edmorley|sheriffduty> (see pushlog on tbpl)
# [09:43] <edmorley|sheriffduty> and follow the changeset link
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# [09:45] <timdream> edmorley|sheriffduty: never mind, the new test run have just show up :)
# [09:46] <mjrosenb> c++ question: is there any way to make sure I never call a non-placement new operator?
# [09:47] <mjrosenb> alternately, I *could* go completely insane, and have this call a non-placement new, and have the allocator actually allocate something.
# [09:47] <mjrosenb> but that sounds like a bad strategy.
# [09:48] <Ms2ger> Make it private?
# [09:48] <Ms2ger> rniwa, do you already have getElementById on DocumentFragment?
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# [09:48] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: make what private?
# [09:48] <Ms2ger> mjrosenb, the operator new
# [09:48] <mjrosenb> oh, I gues I could make operator new private?
# [09:49] <rniwa> Ms2ger: probably not
# [09:49] <Ms2ger> Right
# [09:49] <Ms2ger> rniwa, why'd you change the bug summary, then? :)
# [09:49] <rniwa> Ms2ger: because we don't have ParentNode
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# [09:49] <rniwa> Ms2ger: and I don't think we're introducing that anytime soon
# [09:50] <mjrosenb> ugh... operator overloading...
# [09:50] <Ms2ger> rniwa, well, it's just a convenient way to say Document+Element+DocumentFragment
# [09:50] <mjrosenb> why is this so incredibly ugly :-(
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# [09:51] <rniwa> Ms2ger: fixed
# [09:51] <Ms2ger> rniwa, thanks! :)
# [09:51] <rniwa> Ms2ger: I find the name ParentNode exceedingly confusing
# [09:52] <Ms2ger> rniwa, why's that?
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# [09:53] <rniwa> Ms2ger: because we call it ContainerNode
# [09:54] <rniwa> Ms2ger: and I don't think we want to rename our class name to ParentNode
# [09:54] <Ms2ger> rniwa, ah, right
# [09:54] <rniwa> Ms2ger: but I don't get why we want to call it ParentNode given we have parentNode()
# [09:54] <rniwa> it's very confusing
# [09:55] <rniwa> Ms2ger: I'd rather agree on some other terminology like ContainerNode that doesn't conflict with an existing method or class name.
# [09:55] <Ms2ger> rniwa, You're lucky... We've got nsIContent which is *nearly* ChildNode ;)
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# [09:55] <rniwa> Ms2ger: Imagine talking about parentNode of ParentNode.
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# [09:56] <rniwa> Ms2ger: unless you write it out, it's completely ambigious.
# [09:56] <Ms2ger> rniwa, file a bug? I'd be fine with renaming it, but I want annevk to agree
# [09:56] <rniwa> Ms2ger: yeah.
# [09:57] <rniwa> Ms2ger: i've been meaning to do that
# [09:57] <Ms2ger> rniwa, if you don't, shouldn't be surprised it isn't fixed ;)
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# [10:00] <rniwa> Ms2ger: filed https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23698
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# [10:01] <Ms2ger> rniwa, thanks
# [10:01] <rniwa> Ms2ger: np. thanks for reminding me.
# [10:02] <rniwa> Ms2ger: i'll file more DOM4 bugs, etc… one of these days once i get some more time :(
# [10:02] <Ms2ger> rniwa, heh. I guess I'd better not hold my breath ;)
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# [10:03] <rniwa> Ms2ger: i feel like software engineers working on browser engines need their own secretary to summarize all standard discussions
# [10:03] <rniwa> Ms2ger: it's impossible to keep track of all the discussions while making real patches
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# [10:04] <rniwa> Ms2ger: and doing zillion other stuff we're supposed to be doing :(
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# [10:05] <Ms2ger> rniwa, or a shared secretary, even... Do you guys want to hire one? ;)
# [10:05] <rniwa> Ms2ger: shared secretary might work...
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# [10:06] <hsivonen> comm-beta has had unstarred oranges for a couple of days now. am I supposed to just land on orange? how does this stuff work in the Thunderbird land?
# [10:06] <rniwa> Ms2ger: i think thought the tricky part is that this shared secretary needs to be able to understand standards discussion
# [10:06] <mjrosenb> ugh, c++ :-(
# [10:06] <rniwa> Ms2ger: which in turn might be that he/she has to be a good software engineer :(
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# [10:06] <rniwa> might mean*
# [10:07] <@khuey> hsivonen: my understanding is that they don't care about those sorts of things
# [10:07] <hsivonen> khuey: ok. Also, it turns out the oranges are easy to star
# [10:07] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: fwiw, if I overload operator new to disallow non-placement new for a type, I also need to create an explicit placement new as well.
# [10:08] <Ms2ger> mjrosenb, interesting
# [10:08] <Ms2ger> rniwa, possibly, yes
# [10:09] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: yay, c++ name resolution.
# [10:09] <rniwa> Ms2ger: only if we can remove all bike-shedding from standards discussions :/
# [10:09] <Ms2ger> Bwahahaha
# [10:09] <rniwa> Ms2ger: and bureaucrats.
# [10:10] <mjrosenb> rniwa: it is all those damn S.F. hipsters!
# [10:10] <Ms2ger> rniwa, at least the whatwg doesn't have too many of those :)
# [10:10] <mjrosenb> rniwa: if they didn't ride their fancy bikes everywhere, we wouldn't need a bike shed to begin with!
# [10:10] <rniwa> mjrosenb: I think S.F. hipsters are too cool to be involved with bureaucracy or bike-shedding
# [10:11] <rniwa> mjrosenb: well… i'd rather have them keep drinking their expensive coffee
# [10:11] <rniwa> mjrosenb: and stay away from making WHATWG/W3C hip and cool.
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# [10:12] <hsivonen> huh. hg thinks comm-beta is CLOSED but tbpl merely says APPROVAL REQUIRED
# [10:12] <rniwa> Ms2ger: Is HTML WG still discussing longdesc?
# [10:12] <Ms2ger> rniwa, I don't find it a good use to read anything they put out :)
# [10:12] <Ms2ger> s//of my time/
# [10:12] <rniwa> Ms2ger: i think they have polygot now :/
# [10:13] <Standard8> hsivonen: you might be trying to push something to the seamonkey part
# [10:13] <rniwa> Ms2ger: indeed.
# [10:13] <Standard8> hsivonen: what are you pushing?
# [10:13] <rniwa> Ms2ger: you better finish that HTML fragmentation / serialization spec instead :/
# [10:13] <rniwa> Ms2ger: ;)
# [10:13] <hsivonen> Standard8: yes, my patch includes changes to navigator.js
# [10:13] <rniwa> Ms2ger: but seriously, we need more good spec. editors like yourself
# [10:13] <Gijs> hsivonen: sounds like you're pushing to comm-beta-seamonkey and you're looking at tbpl for comm-beta-thunderbird ?
# [10:13] <Gijs> ( https://treestatus.mozilla.org/ )
# [10:14] <Standard8> hsivonen: so the thunderbird part is https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Thunderbird-Beta and I see no unstarred oranges there
# [10:14] <mcsmurf> hsivonen: just include "CLOSED TREE", that's fine (I'm allowed to tell you that :)
# [10:14] <hsivonen> Standard8: trying to push https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=871161
# [10:14] <mjrosenb> well, that was strange. my tablet just powered off.
# [10:14] <hsivonen> mcsmurf: thanks
# [10:14] <hsivonen> Standard8: because I starred them
# [10:14] <Ms2ger> rniwa, that's very kind of you... Not that I've done much spec editing lately :)
# [10:14] <Gijs> mjrosenb: out of battery / very hot?
# [10:15] <mcsmurf> seamonkey tree has been closed for ages..
# [10:15] <Standard8> hsivonen: oh thanks, we don't always look at branches that much
# [10:15] <mcsmurf> (and I'm certainly not happy about that)
# [10:15] <Standard8> hsivonen: but yeah, like mcsmurf says, just pushed with closed tree
# [10:16] <mjrosenb> Gijs: plenty of battery, the device feels fine.
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# [10:17] <hsivonen> Standard8: ok. landed. thanks
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# [10:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/cf4f55f7ed5e - Henri Sivonen - Bug 871161 - Stop inheriting charset where other browsers do not inherit it. r=bzbarsky, a=lsblakk.
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# [10:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45ef973880ed - Joel Maher - Bug 932389 - upload a new talos.zip to capture latest changes in mozprocess. r=armenzg
# [10:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5186117cbff7 - Jordan Lund - Bug 897420 - Get a basic set of metrofx talos tests running in automation. r=jmaher
# [10:28] <NeilAway> dmajor: F♯ exists in the musical scale of D major but C does not
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# [10:44] <firebot> compositor. r=dbaron
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# [10:45] <firebot> property is animated" heuristic. r=dbaron
# [10:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f26ebdd5751 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 911889. Part 4. Add API to detect whether an nsGlobalWindow is running a timeout handler. r=bz
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# [10:49] <gaston> ICU landed for 26 right ?
# [10:50] <gaston> or it's in tree in 26 but not yet enabled before 27 ?
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# [11:15] <edmorley|sheriffduty> could someone do me a favour and needinfo sheriffs@mozilla.bugs somewhere? eg pick a random bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=933342
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# [11:16] <Ms2ger> edmorley|sheriffduty, done
# [11:17] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: ty
# [11:17] <edmorley|sheriffduty> I don't get a needinfo email
# [11:17] <edmorley|sheriffduty> I wonder if that is deliberate
# [11:18] <Ms2ger> Just the normal bugmail, then?
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# [11:20] <ochameau> glandium fabrice I added these icons for desktop build but it regressed, we used to ship the icon files. I'll drop a note in bug 918824. We want a more official icon.
# [11:20] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: yeah
# [11:22] <ochameau> glandium fabrice the icon were originaly added in bug 865210 and bug 874459.
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# [11:24] <mjrosenb> does it make sense to do manual virtual dispatch?
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# [11:28] <Ms2ger> edmorley|sheriffduty, man, timezones suck :)
# [11:28] <edmorley|sheriffduty> :-)
# [11:28] <AutomatedTester> Ms2ger: ++
# [11:28] <AutomatedTester> fucking timezones
# [11:29] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: oh for a few days
# [11:29] <Ms2ger> Right
# [11:29] <edmorley|sheriffduty> true
# [11:30] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: you can remove yourself if you wish! :-)
# [11:30] <Ms2ger> Sometimes it does suit me ;)
# [11:30] <edmorley|sheriffduty> AutomatedTester: are you the etherpad editor in green?
# [11:30] <edmorley|sheriffduty> "unnamed"
# [11:30] <AutomatedTester> edmorley|sheriffduty: what etherpad?
# [11:30] <edmorley|sheriffduty> AutomatedTester: ah no then
# [11:31] <Ms2ger> And they're gone
# [11:31] <edmorley|sheriffduty> AutomatedTester: I'm just populating one a bit and will send email shortly
# [11:31] <edmorley|sheriffduty> AutomatedTester: I hadn't posted the link but guess ms2ger and others saw the wiki page change
# [11:32] <Ms2ger> I saw it on tbpl
# [11:32] <edmorley|sheriffduty> oh yeah that
# [11:32] <edmorley|sheriffduty> I forgot I'd pressed sumbit on treestatus MOTD
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# [11:36] <Ms2ger> Heh, we still have Firefox::Panorama
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# [11:37] <ttaubert> Ms2ger: it's also still a feature :|
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# [11:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1962c50770f7 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 931812: Mark the store buffer first for minor GC r=terrence
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# [12:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0777ab1c31a7 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 932091 - Convert SVGBBox.mBBox to Moz2D. r=dholbert
# [12:07] <Ms2ger> And peterv has orange
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# [12:09] <Ms2ger> edmorley|sheriffduty, looks like a6878c4ee086 needs to come out, not sure about the rest
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# [12:09] <Ms2ger> edmorley|sheriffduty, e697e7dcc321 depends on it
# [12:10] <edmorley|sheriffduty> yeah
# [12:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f97de1c0727 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset e697e7dcc321 (bug 932322)
# [12:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2137bf09cdc1 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset a6878c4ee086 (bug 932309) for assertions
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# [12:33] <mjrosenb> we aren't building with --std=c++11?
# [12:33] <mjrosenb> actually, how is this not part of the language already
# [12:33] <mjrosenb> i'm decently sure we use it all over
# [12:33] <mjrosenb> ../../src/ion/arm/Assembler-arm.h:1883:28: error: default template arguments may not be used in function templates without -std=c++11 or -std=gnu++11
# [12:33] <mjrosenb> ../../src/ion/arm/Assembler-arm.h:1883:28: error: default template arguments may not be used in function templates without -std=c++11 or -std=gnu++11
# [12:33] <mjrosenb> err, sorry for the double-click
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# [12:34] <mjrosenb> oh, we do that on structures, not on functions...
# [12:34] <mjrosenb> great...
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# [12:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/229f179bd8d7 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 931335 - Handle mismatched texture target in framebufferTexture2D - r=jgilbert
# [12:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/51f057783123 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 886219 - Avoid introducing a global constructor with the ImageBridgeParent singleton - r=nical
# [12:39] <@khuey> edmorley|sheriffduty: took me a second to realize that the 'for now' after philor was due to DST, not an impending move
# [12:39] <edmorley|sheriffduty> :-)
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# [12:44] <glandium> mjrosenb: we're supposed to build everything with -std=gnu++11
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# [12:45] <mjrosenb> glandium: this error message disagrees with you
# [12:45] <mjrosenb> well, when did we make the switch?
# [12:46] <mjrosenb> this patch has \infty bitrot
# [12:46] <glandium> mjrosenb: quite some time ago
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# [12:46] <mjrosenb> was it in 2013?
# [12:47] <mjrosenb> ok, different question: before we switched to gnu++11, did we specify -std=foo, or did we just let g++ choose for us?
# [12:47] <glandium> mjrosenb: july 30, 2013 according to hg
# [12:47] <glandium> mjrosenb: js used to not build with -std=gnu++0x at all
# [12:48] <glandium> mjrosenb: what did you get that error on?
# [12:48] <past> khuey: how can I get the node graph from a leaky test that you were showing us the other day?
# [12:49] <mjrosenb> glandium: patch that I'm working on that i've been *horrified* to rebase
# [12:49] <@khuey> past: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance:Leak_Tools#Cycle_collector_heap_dump
# [12:50] <@khuey> past: you want the third box
# [12:50] <mjrosenb> I think the rebase is basically going to be cp the files that i'm working on to the new directory, then manually merge them...
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# [12:50] <glandium> mjrosenb: and you're getting that on the rebased version?
# [12:50] <@khuey> past: and then you can run mccr8's scripts
# [12:50] <mjrosenb> glandium: no, I haven't though about rebasing.
# [12:50] <glandium> mjrosenb: so you're getting that on a very old codebase?
# [12:50] <mjrosenb> glandium: yup.
# [12:50] <mjrosenb> glandium: i'm filing this under 'expected'
# [12:51] <mjrosenb> and i'll work around it until I rebase.
# [12:51] <glandium> mjrosenb: yeah, js/src wasn't built with -std=something until recentlyish
# [12:51] <mjrosenb> hrmm, this patch is only 200k. something must be missing.
# [12:51] <mjrosenb> oh right.
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# [12:52] <mjrosenb> that isn't counting the two new files that have been introduced!
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# [12:55] <past> khuey: ok, thanks
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# [13:57] <RyanVM> timdream: ?
# [13:57] <timdream> RyanVM: need your advice on how to do with red Gu in https://tbpl-dev.allizom.org/?tree=Mozilla-B2g26-v1.2
# [13:58] <RyanVM> timdream: burn it with fire? :)
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# [13:58] <RyanVM> timdream: i'm not sure what's going on
# [13:58] <timdream> RyanVM: so I have back out the commit with first red, but the following test runs are still red
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# [13:58] <RyanVM> timdream: yeah, and I retriggered runs on the original mass-backout and hit the same failure once
# [13:59] <RyanVM> I think we need some people who better know those tests to weigh in
# [13:59] <timdream> RyanVM: apparently "AttributeError: 'GaiaTestResult' object has no attribute 'append'" is intermittent?
# [13:59] <RyanVM> timdream: lightsofapollo is our usual contact, but he probably won't be around for a couple hours yet
# [13:59] <timdream> RyanVM: yes
# [13:59] <RyanVM> timdream: I would say that it's intermittently passing :P
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# [14:00] <RyanVM> timdream: i'll ping jgriffin about it too
# [14:00] <NeilAway> hmm, that page up/down excludes headers and footers works well, now all I need is for the find bar scroll into view logic to work the same way
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# [15:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a750c58e428e - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 9eeddb8dc383 (bug 931915)
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# [15:40] <@bsmedberg> "rockstar bidco"? I apparently missed that name the first time I heard about the nortel patent thing.
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# [15:53] <annevk> hsivonen: not sure who to contact either, maybe mfinkle knows?
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# [15:55] <mfinkle> annevk, hsivonen: could be a bug
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# [15:55] <mfinkle> i always ask "if it's working on desktop, why wouldn't just work on android?"
# [15:56] <annevk> hah
# [15:56] <mfinkle> annevk, hsivonen: is this something related to the character encoding menu?
# [15:57] <mfinkle> i have no idea what the fallback encoding even is, conceptually
# [15:57] <mfinkle> :)
# [15:57] <hsivonen> mfinkle: conceptually related but not technically not really *that* related
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# [15:58] <hsivonen> well, the good news is that if its already broken, my patch can only make it better, not worse
# [15:58] <hsivonen> hooray less trouble for me
# [15:58] <mfinkle> f4a has a setting to turn on a "character encoding" menu
# [15:58] <mfinkle> it's hidden by default
# [15:58] <hsivonen> mfinkle: this is not that
# [15:58] <hsivonen> mfinkle: this is expected to work without the menu
# [15:58] <mfinkle> ok
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# [16:00] <ekr> I am seeing a lot of "WARNING: could not find a compositor to schedule composition: file /Users/ekr/dev/mozilla-inbound/gfx/layers/ipc/CompositableTransactionParent.cpp, line 225" on my Mac
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# [16:01] <hsivonen> next time I jump through the hoops of installing a non-English version of Fennec, I need to remember to load http://hsivonen.fi/test/moz/isindex.html
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# [16:02] <hsivonen> (if someone already has a non-English Fennec installed, I'd like to know if that page has English text or localized text)
# [16:02] <hsivonen> (I already uninstalled the Japanese Fennec)
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# [16:06] <hsivonen> I wonder what it takes to become a "top developer" on Google Play. We still aren't one. :-(
# [16:07] <ekr> practice!
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# [16:10] <hsivonen> ha! the isindex prompt shows up in English when Fennec's UI language is Finnish
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# [16:10] <hsivonen> looks like Gecko runs as en-US regardless of the locale of the Fennec UI
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# [16:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29b8e502a296 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 932800 - Don't optimize string[x] GETELEM in Ion if x is not a number. r=h4writer
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# [16:16] <bkelly> anyone around who understands weak references and how they are used in the observer service?
# [16:17] <froydnj> bsmedberg: ^
# [16:17] <@bsmedberg> bkelly: maybe!
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# [16:17] <@bsmedberg> what do you need to know?
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# [16:17] <bkelly> bsmedberg, hi! I'm investigating some interesting behavior in bug 924565
# [16:17] <bkelly> bsmedberg, I have an object that has strong references via listeners to itself
# [16:18] <bkelly> bsmedberg, that also registers with addObserver() passing true for the third arg indicating a weak reference
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# [16:18] <bkelly> bsmedberg, the object lives, but the observer doesn't fire... like the observer system is using a proxy object that is getting GC'd
# [16:19] <@bsmedberg> bkelly: this is a C++ object or a JS object?
# [16:19] <hsivonen> (aside: big thanks to whoever made the new pref access code use old school C callbacks instead of nsIObserver)
# [16:19] <bkelly> bsmedberg, looking at the code, though, I don't see such a proxy object... unless its possible its the xpcom itself
# [16:19] <bkelly> bsmedberg, js
# [16:19] <edmorley|sheriffduty> froydnj: asan build failures on your push https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=9c8d23cfa1d8
# [16:19] <@bsmedberg> bkelly: there is a proxy object, but it's different for C++ and JS code IIRC
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# [16:19] <@bsmedberg> bkelly: for C++ objects it's a nsWeakReference object
# [16:20] <@bz> bkelly: oh, funtimes
# [16:20] * @bz knows what's going on here
# [16:20] <froydnj> edmorley|sheriffduty: argh, I hate try. looking
# [16:20] <@bz> So in C++ there's an nsWeakReference
# [16:20] <@bz> which is a weak reference to the XPCWrappedJS for the nsIObserver
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# [16:20] <@bsmedberg> for JS there's whatever magic nsXPCWrappedJS::GetWeakReference does
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# [16:21] <@bz> It will go null when the XPCWrappedJS is deleted
# [16:21] <@bz> With me so far?
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# [16:21] <edmorley|sheriffduty> froydnj: yey bug 918057
# [16:21] <@bz> hmm
# [16:21] <bkelly> bz, I think so
# [16:21] <@bz> But I'd think that doesn't happen as long as the _JS_ object is alive
# [16:21] <bkelly> bsmedberg, bz: is this all wrapped up under do_GetWeakReference?
# [16:21] <@bsmedberg> yes
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# [16:21] <@bsmedberg> do_GetWeakReference does a QI to nsISupportsWeakReference
# [16:22] <@bz> The point is, event listeners will keep alive the JS object but they know nothing about XPCWrappedJS
# [16:22] <@bz> Assuming you mean you passed your object to addEventListener()
# [16:22] <@bsmedberg> bz: oh, you're saying it's only a weakref to the XPCWrappedJS, not to the JS object itself?
# [16:22] <bkelly> bz, its using cpmm.addMessageListener()
# [16:23] <@bz> bsmedberg: well, yes, but XPCWrappedJS lifetime is ... complicated
# [16:23] <@bsmedberg> of course
# [16:23] <@bz> bkelly: that should be an XPCWrappedJS as well
# [16:23] <@bsmedberg> mm isn't webidl?
# [16:23] <bkelly> bz, but with a strong ref to it
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# [16:24] <@bz> bsmedberg: not afaict
# [16:24] <bkelly> bz, so it sounds like the XPCWrappedJS can be GC'd even if the js object lives?
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# [16:24] <@bz> bkelly: right, so in theory this should work
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# [16:24] <bkelly> bz, if the C++ side only holds a weak ref to it
# [16:24] <@bz> bkelly: I believe that is not the case
# [16:24] <@bz> bkelly: in that the JS object keeps the XPCWrappedJS alive
# [16:24] <edmorley|sheriffduty> froydnj: fwiw the two failed asan builds were clobber
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# [16:25] <froydnj> edmorley|sheriffduty: great
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# [16:25] <bkelly> bz, hmm... that doesn't seem to be the case if I understand correctly
# [16:25] <edmorley|sheriffduty> froydnj: and the push before, whilst not complete, has been running 30+ mins, double the runtime of these failed builds
# [16:26] <froydnj> edmorley|sheriffduty: I'd finger the patch for 923127 or 933231, but I can't really say which
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# [16:26] <bkelly> bz, any tricks for identifying which observer is which so I can add some selective debug?
# [16:26] <froydnj> edmorley|sheriffduty: if you wanted to back the whole lot out, I'd understand
# [16:27] <edmorley|sheriffduty> froydnj: let's back those two out, and separately, so we can work out which
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# [16:27] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty: on the bright side, at least jwatt looks like a good candidate for the leaks too
# [16:27] <edmorley|sheriffduty> yeah hoping so :-)
# [16:27] <edmorley|sheriffduty> jobs should come through in a few mins :-)
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# [16:29] <froydnj> edmorley|sheriffduty: thanks
# [16:29] <edmorley|sheriffduty> np
# [16:29] <bkelly> bz, is it expected that the addMessageListener() and addObserver() should see the same XPCWrappedJS object? or are separate objects created?
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# [16:29] <bkelly> xpcom is black magic to me
# [16:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ef640375e5d - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 82ceed608666 (bug 933231) on suspicion of asan build failures on a CLOSED TREE
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# [16:31] <jimm> *changes
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# [16:41] <@bz> bkelly: you get different objects that know about each other
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# [16:42] <@bz> bkelly: because they need different vtables
# [16:42] <bkelly> bz, that makes sense
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# [16:46] <mshal> jimm: gps is on PTO today - maybe ask in #build?
# [16:46] <luke> bz: is there any current way that a page can make itself not go into the bfcache (that is, get immediately unloaded) on refresh or external navigation?
# [16:47] <@bz> luke: refresh doesn't bfcache
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# [16:47] <@bz> luke: what do you mean by "external navigation"?
# [16:47] <@bz> luke: just navigation to another page?
# [16:48] <luke> bz: like the user navigates the page (w/o clicking on a link or something the page controls)
# [16:48] <@bz> luke: As in, are you asking how to prevent being bfcached ever, or do you want to only prevent it in some limited set of cases?
# [16:48] <luke> bz: how about 'ever'?
# [16:48] <@bz> Add an unload event listener to the window
# [16:48] <luke> bz: basically, for this games with huge Emscripten heaps, they really don't belong in the bfcache
# [16:48] <@bz> That prevents bfcaching, for compat reasons.
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# [16:48] <@bz> ah
# [16:48] <luke> bz: oooh
# [16:49] <@bz> We could also detect that case internally
# [16:49] <luke> bz: now, we're even seeing problems in the refresh case (if you refresh quickly)
# [16:49] <@bz> and not bfcache them
# [16:49] <froydnj> bz: "for compat reasons", heh
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# [16:49] <@bz> froydnj: because not firing unload when unloading a page is kinda bad
# [16:49] <luke> bz: you're right, i was thinking of adding some bit in certain huge-memory cases that are easy to detect (like in the typed array constructor)
# [16:49] <@bz> froydnj: but if the page isn't listening for it, it won't know. ;)
# [16:50] <froydnj> bz: yeah, makes sense
# [16:50] <@bz> luke: Anyway, adding an unload handler will work as a quick hack, but it seems like we should think about our internal heuristics...
# [16:50] <froydnj> bz: it's ok to not do work as long as the program doesn't find out about it!
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# [16:50] <luke> bz: agreed
# [16:51] <luke> bz: i think there's even a bug hanging around for this...
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# [16:52] <@bz> froydnj: yep
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# [16:52] <@bz> froydnj: that's a cornerstone of DOM/layout development. ;)
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# [16:52] <froydnj> bz: cornerstone of compilers, too :)
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# [16:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5bb07c1ae9f5 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset f24ee0606ea6 (bug 926128) for reftest failures on OS X & crashes on B2G on a CLOSED TREE
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# [16:55] <bkelly> bz, bsmedberg, just to make sure I understand... it sounds like what I am seeing is unexpected/bugged, correct?
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# [16:57] <froydnj> we might be able to do that
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# [17:04] <reuben> edmorley|sheriffduty: should hsynyi's stuff be backed out from b2g-inbound?
# [17:04] <edmorley|sheriffduty> reuben: I'm looking at the log, trying to find the failure
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# [17:04] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Finished sendchange failed (results: 2
# [17:05] <edmorley|sheriffduty> might be releng
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# [17:07] <bkelly> bz, hmm... so these JS objects have a prototype chain... the parent prototype has nsIObserver in its QueryInterface, but the child prototype did not
# [17:08] <bkelly> bz, adding nsIObserver to the child prototype seems to make things function as expected
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# [17:09] <bkelly> bz, I'm not sure I understand why that is relevent for the weak reference in Observer service... some kind of slicing going on?
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# [17:12] <Callek> glob|away: gavin: (or anyone else with perms) can you grant tabara.mihai@gmail.com editbugs and canconfirm?
# [17:12] <Callek> he was an intern of releng's but changed to his personal e-mail
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# [17:12] <Callek> Asa ^
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# [17:14] <NeilAway> bz/bkelly: sounds like the same problem as bug 533290
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# [17:18] <nemo> hm. been getting a lot of odd crashes lately
# [17:18] <nemo> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/82b0a6c8-a8ff-4825-bce4-66bb92131101
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# [17:18] <nemo> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/a49b8c03-8383-47b1-ad92-afdb12131101
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# [17:19] <nemo> have azure + skia and layers accel enabled
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# [17:19] <nemo> but never did this before...
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# [17:19] <nemo> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/d777c46a-8ba1-47c9-892c-7b6e72131101
# [17:20] <nemo> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/0cfa94c0-3785-4b24-a317-0ba3e2131101
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# [17:20] <nemo> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c2063bb0-aea4-48ae-b52f-6633e2131101
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# [17:37] <TimAbraldes> do the crash reports in about:crashes/crash-stats include URLs at all?
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# [17:39] <nemo> TimAbraldes: if you check "include url"
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# [18:07] <jwatt> anyone know enough about Windows XP to know why the XP lining errors happened on this push: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=0fdae4f78c1a ?
# [18:07] <jwatt> s/lining/linking/
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# [18:10] <jwatt> basically it doesn't like linking callers of AppendRoundedRectToPath in the 'part 1' patch
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# [18:15] <TimAbraldes> jwatt: #windev may be able to help
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# [18:16] <philor> I know it's not WinXP, but that doesn't really count for anything
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# [18:18] <philor> jwatt: it's "our Windows build" which happens to be on Server 2003, we just stick it in tbpl's WinXP row
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# [18:19] <Mossop> Did I miss a step in installing home-brew, mach tells me that my PATH is set wrong
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# [18:34] <nalexander> Mossop: pre 2.7.3 versions of Python have known bugs. Is there any reason to expect every OS that |mach bootstrap| installs to have an updated Python?
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# [18:35] <Mossop> nalexander: It could check pretty easily
# [18:35] <nalexander> Mossop: true.
# [18:35] <nalexander> Mossop: PRs accepted :)
# [18:35] <nalexander> Mossop: well, patches.
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# [18:35] <nalexander> Mossop: although is it true that system Python can install packages without sudo? (I'm not sure same is true for brew installed Python.)
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# [18:37] <Mossop> You can install system packages into the brew directory and have the system python use them
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# [18:38] <nalexander> Mossop: sounds like you know how to make this better :)
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# [18:47] <froydnj> whoa, who broke b2g?
# [18:48] <RyanVM> froydnj: releng
# [18:48] <philor> I would have bet he meant "gal"
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# [18:49] <philor> sendchange errors on one desktop platform aren't nearly as dramatic as turning a whole row red
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# [18:52] <philor> also, hahahahaha, "Try looks good"
# [18:53] <RyanVM> philor: inorite?
# [18:53] <philor> RyanVM: so that's two huge long closures from gal's patches in, what, 12 hours? maybe you should require him to do a -p all -u all try before you'll touch them
# [18:53] <RyanVM> yeah, thinking so too
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# [19:00] <zwol> Here's an entertaining little xpcshell-test headache for y'all.
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# [19:01] <zwol> Suppose someone calls do_check_eq("string 1", "string 2") where at least one of the strings contains non-ASCII characters.
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# [19:01] <zwol> They pass through JSON.stringify() and dump() and get written to the test process's stdout as raw UTF-16.
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# [19:03] <zwol> I think. I'm getting � on my terminal.
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# [19:03] <mbrubeck> good ol' FFFD
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# [19:04] <zwol> Anyhow, runxpcshelltests.py fails to decode the JSON because it doesn't have any idea what encoding to expect, and the test report gets dumped as raw JSON, and -- here's why I care -- the test harness has no idea whether the test failed.
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# [19:05] <zwol> So the headache is where and how to fix this.
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# [19:06] <zwol> It would help if I could figure out how to run an xpcshell test without any wrappers at all, then I could get a clearer picture of what is actually coming out of the test process.
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# [19:07] <mbrubeck> darn, I saw this and was hoping it might be the problem: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/xpcshell/runxpcshelltests.py#74
# [19:07] <mbrubeck> but it looks like we use it only for mozinfo.json, not for test output
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# [19:07] <dmajor> jwatt: ping
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# [19:08] <jwatt> dmajor: pong
# [19:08] <zwol> yeah, that looks vestigial, there's an unconditional import json above; maybe I'll chainsaw that while I'm in this file anyway
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# [19:09] <dmajor> jwatt: hi. I was looking at dll exports and I saw that mozglue exports a ton of WebCore::Decimal stuff that probably isn't used.
# [19:10] <dmajor> jwatt: I think resulted from: Bug 854531, part 6 - Add MFBT_API markers to Decimal methods. r=Waldo
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# [19:10] <mbrubeck> zwol: So, have you tried replacing http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/xpcshell/runxpcshelltests.py#466 with line_object = json.loads(line_string, "utf-16")
# [19:10] <jwatt> dmajor: ok
# [19:10] <zwol> mbrubeck: the thing is I'm not sure it's actually UTF-16
# [19:11] <dmajor> jwatt: Was it intentional to mark these as dllexport? Or was that just an unintended side effect of MFBT_API?
# [19:11] <zwol> mbrubeck: because *only* the non-ASCII characters seem to be causing heartburn
# [19:11] <mbrubeck> ah, right
# [19:11] <Waldo> dmajor: Decimal is supposed to be something mfbt exposes for use inside Gecko; are you saying MFBT_API exposes even more broadly?
# [19:11] <jwatt> dmajor: depends what's exported
# [19:11] * zwol tries that anyway
# [19:11] <mbrubeck> and it looks like json.loads only supports ASCII-based 8-bit encodings anyways
# [19:12] <jwatt> dmajor: it was intentional to export the things marked with MFBT_API
# [19:12] <mbrubeck> http://docs.python.org/2/library/json#json.loads
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# [19:12] <dmajor> jwatt: Waldo: MFBT_API contains __declspec(dllexport) [at least on windows] so I think some of this stuff gets exported from more places than was desired
# [19:12] <Waldo> anyone know the name for the little consed-up Unicode hexnum glyphs we display when a font doesn't have a glyph for a code point? I was trying to think of the name yesterday, couldn't bring it to mind
# [19:12] <dmajor> and I think that keeps the linker from discarding some stuff that would otherwise be unused
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# [19:13] <zwol> I think what we're actually getting here is some mangled combination of ASCII and ... something else.
# [19:13] <zwol> > JSON decoding failed: UnicodeDecodeError('utf8', '\xdf\xee.l\xf8.cn', 0, 1, 'invalid continuation byte')
# [19:13] <dmajor> jwatt: Waldo: so for example I see that mozjs.dll exports some Decimal stuff (which I think was the desired change) but mozglue.dll also exports these because it happened to pull in that header
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# [19:14] <Waldo> dmajor: erm, mozglue.dll is a separate library from mozjs.dll? I thought Windows had xul and mozjs, and everything else had just xul, for libraries
# [19:14] <Waldo> (shows how much I know!)
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# [19:15] <jwatt> dmajor: I'm not really sure what we should do about that
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# [19:15] <dmajor> Waldo: notable dll's in my bin folder are: xul mozjs mozglue mozalloc gkmedias
# [19:16] <Waldo> hm
# [19:16] <Waldo> brb, moving across the office
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# [19:17] <zwol> dump() is a JS interpreter primitive, right?
# [19:18] <mbrubeck> I think there are a few different implementations; not sure where xpcshell's is
# [19:18] <@smaug> clb: ping
# [19:18] <zwol> well, the one here converts to UTF-8 anyway: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/loader/mozJSComponentLoader.cpp#109
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# [19:18] <@smaug> zwol: dump is not in JS eng, AFAIK
# [19:18] <zwol> ... buuuut the one here doesn't: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCShellImpl.cpp#278
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# [19:19] <@smaug> we have separate dump in globalwindow, messagemanager and js components
# [19:19] <zwol> smaug: I'm looking for the one used for xpcshell tests
# [19:19] <@smaug> clb: just curious if you have any comments to w3c bug 23240
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# [19:20] <@bz> zwol: xpcshell tests would be using XPCShellImpl.cpp, I think
# [19:20] <@bz> JSAutoByteString == fail
# [19:20] <zwol> that would be consistent with the not-actually-utf8izing effect I observe
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# [19:22] <zwol> we make the one thing match the other thing and we wait for the build, la la la ...
# [19:24] <dmajor> jwatt: Waldo: ok well I'll file a bug and we can either do something about it, or not :) just wanted to see if you had any thoughts offhand
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# [19:25] <jwatt> dmajor: sounds good, thanks
# [19:25] <Waldo> dmajor: those API macro annotations I mostly understand by cargo-cult, so my thoughts are...inchoate at best
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# [19:29] <andreyeliseev> What is that "error: moz_static_assert88"
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# [19:30] <dholbert> andreyeliseev, I think that's a macro-defined typedef that serves the purpose of static asserts, IIRC
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# [19:30] <dholbert> andreyeliseev, though IIRC code should mostly be using static_assert now
# [19:30] <Ms2ger> dholbert, (except in C)
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# [19:30] <dholbert> andreyeliseev, more context (& information about when/how you hit it) would be useful.
# [19:30] <dholbert> Ms2ger, ah right
# [19:31] <andreyeliseev> dholbert: I am trying to build SpiderMonkey for iOS using xCode 5.0.1 and latest SDKs
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# [19:32] <dholbert> andreyeliseev, ok. and you're hitting a static assertion failure, it sounds like? can you pastebin the error at https://pastebin.mozilla.org/ ?
# [19:33] <dholbert> andreyeliseev, (I have no idea if anyone has tried building spidermonkey for iOS recently or (if so) what kind of hacks are/aren't required)
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# [19:33] <froydnj> edmorley: woohoo for bug 920149
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# [19:33] <dholbert> andreyeliseev, ("moz_static_assert88" isn't enough information for anyone to react to. :) hopefully the build system is giving you more info than that...)
# [19:34] <andreyeliseev> justa sec
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# [19:36] <edmorley> froydnj: :-)
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# [19:36] <andreyeliseev> Hereis paste bin https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3398377
# [19:37] <edmorley|away> froydnj: some nice optimisations in general https://hg.mozilla.org/webtools/tbpl/pushloghtml?fromchange=f31fb8e737b9&tochange=639939a9724d
# [19:37] <andreyeliseev> dholbert: Look at following pastebin, please: bin https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3398377
# [19:37] <froydnj> edmorley|away: \o/ I thought it was loading faster, but considered that just confirmation bias :)
# [19:38] <edmorley|away> froydnj: noticably faster is using the jobname filter
# [19:38] <dholbert> andreyeliseev, so you're getting a lot of "declared as an array with a negative size"
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# [19:38] <andreyeliseev> dholbert: Not only that. I also get couple of errors
# [19:39] <dholbert> andreyeliseev, those are the errors, as far as I can tell
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# [19:39] <andreyeliseev> dholbert: Can you look at configure command?
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# [19:39] <RyanVM> decoder: should we consider backing out your asan mochitest-bc workaround at this point?
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# [19:40] <dholbert> andreyeliseev, sorry, I don't run configure manually myself, so I don't know what the configure command should look like
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# [19:40] <bkelly> can anyone explain how the type coercion happens here? am I correct in thinking if nsIObserver is not in the QueryInterface property for the object nsCOMPtr<nsIObserver> will be set to 0? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/ds/nsObserverList.cpp#72
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# [19:40] <andreyeliseev> dholbert: How do you compile it for iOS being in MAC OSX
# [19:40] <dholbert> andreyeliseev, ah right, so "declared as an array with a negative size" is the way we make static assertions fail, IIRC
# [19:41] <Ms2ger> bkelly, to null, yes
# [19:41] <dholbert> andreyeliseev, so I think that just indicates that e.g. "JS_STATIC_ASSERT(sizeof word == 8)" is failing
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# [19:42] <dholbert> andreyeliseev, I have no idea. As I said above, I don't know if anyone has compiled for iOS recently. (It's not a supported platform)
# [19:42] <kats> did | mach build <subdirectory> | recently break?
# [19:42] <bkelly> Ms2ger, thanks! any chance you can explain how do_QueryReferent() knows what type to look for?
# [19:42] <kats> i used to be able to do mach build gfx/layers but now it errors out
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# [19:42] <kats> gps: ^
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# [19:43] <Ms2ger> kats, see the newsgroup announcement, I guess
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# [19:43] <dholbert> andreyeliseev, It sounds like you need to see what those "sizeof()" values actually are (e.g. by hand-tweaking the assertions with guesses, or writing a small program and compiling it manually), and then seeing what the implications of those different sizes are
# [19:43] <@bz> bkelly: _if_ the object has a QueryInterface, it'll get consulted
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# [19:43] <@bz> bkelly: if not, it's assumed to implement all interfaces, basically
# [19:44] <@bz> bkelly: at least iirc that's how it works.
# [19:44] <Ms2ger> bkelly, oh, a JS object?
# [19:44] <bkelly> bz, it does have a QueryInterface
# [19:44] <zwol_> bz: feel free to reassign review on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=933885 but you seemed to know what was going on, so...
# [19:44] <bkelly> bz, whats confusing to me is that its passed to nsObserverService::AddObserver() as an nsIObserver *, but later it cannot do_QueryReferent back to an nsIObserver *
# [19:45] <kats> Ms2ger: i did read the newsgroup announcement when i first saw it a few days ago but it didn't sound like anything like this would break
# [19:45] <Ms2ger> kats, doesn't the error say what to do about it?
# [19:45] <kats> Ms2ger: the error says to file a bug
# [19:45] <Ms2ger> kats, hm, maybe that's another error
# [19:45] <Ms2ger> bkelly, it can also be null if the underlying object died
# [19:46] <bkelly> Ms2ger, yea, a JS object
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# [19:46] <kats> Ms2ger: the newsgroup posting starts by saying "If you use |mach build| to build the tree, stop reading: this post does not apply to you."
# [19:46] <@bz> bkelly: do you have this in a C++ debugger?
# [19:46] <andreyeliseev> dholbert: I forgot that I used unofficial fork of funkaster, sorry, it is my problem, now
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# [19:46] <Ms2ger> kats, oh, that's right
# [19:46] <bkelly> Ms2ger, yea, in this case I'm trying to figure out why its returning null when the underlying JS has a strong ref still keeping it alive
# [19:46] <Ms2ger> kats, pastebin?
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# [19:46] <Ms2ger> bkelly, okay, at this point I run away screaming :)
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# [19:47] <bkelly> bz, no... I haven't figured out the debugger yet as I'm typically on a b2g device... I have it failing in the mochitest on desktop, though... so I could try to get that running
# [19:47] <kats> Ms2ger: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3398434
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# [19:47] <@bz> bkelly: So taking a step back
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# [19:48] <@bz> bkelly: do_QueryReferent can fail for two reasons
# [19:48] <@bz> bkelly: either the mReferent is null in the nsWeakReference
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# [19:48] <Ms2ger> kats, does ./mach configure help?
# [19:48] <@bz> bkelly: or the QI call on mReferent fails.
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# [19:48] <@bz> bkelly: I would assume in this case the problem is the former, but it might be interesting to double-check that
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# [19:49] <@bz> I suppose the other option is to see what error the do_QueryReferent returned
# [19:49] <@bz> as in, whether it's NS_ERROR_NULL_POINTER or NS_NOINTERFACE
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# [19:49] <@bz> That you can do via logging, without a debugger being involved.
# [19:49] <@bz> zwol: commented
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# [19:50] <@dbaron> is bugzilla down?
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# [19:51] <KWierso> dbaron: works for me
# [19:51] <@dbaron> took about 30 seconds to load a bug
# [19:51] <kats> Ms2ger: nope, configure didn't help
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# [19:52] <zwol_> ok, who's a good reviewer for runxpcshelltests.py changes?
# [19:52] <Ms2ger> kats, then file in Core::Build Config, I guess
# [19:52] <Ms2ger> zwol_, ted
# [19:52] <zwol_> thanks
# [19:52] <kats> Ms2ger: just did. bug 933895. thanks
# [19:52] <zwol_> (I thought ted moved on from test suite duty?)
# [19:53] <dholbert> dbaron, up for me
# [19:53] <Ms2ger> I don't think he managed to get a poor soul invested in xpcshell
# [19:53] <zwol_> right-o
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# [19:55] <KWierso> RyanVM: looks like the Bg retriggers came back green... okay to reopen?
# [19:55] <@ted> zwol_: no, just the build system
# [19:55] <RyanVM> KWierso: I will be in a second when I'm done merging around
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# [19:58] <zwol_> ted: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=933885
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# [20:05] <@ted> zwol: gotcha
# [20:05] <@ted> (also hi)
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# [20:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c532cabb71ec - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 852175 - Fix baseline stack checks on functions which may push lots of locals. r=jandem
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# [20:10] <bholley> gwagner: hi
# [20:10] <bkelly> bz, I'm sorry... my cable internet decided to go out right as you were about to import some wisdom :-\
# [20:10] <gwagner> bholley: hey! updating the patch again
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# [20:10] <bholley> gwagner: what patch?
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# [20:10] <gwagner> bholley: I just asked you in bug 933574
# [20:10] <gwagner> I think you wrote this part
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# [20:11] <gwagner> bholley: oh I guess you didn't see the review request yet
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# [20:12] <Mook_as> bkelly: so, something around http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=mozilla%23developers#c801753 ?
# [20:12] <bholley> gwagner: uhhh
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# [20:12] <Mook_as> you're welcome :)
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# [20:21] <@bsmedberg> I believe it's in the taborder... marco zehe tested it for me a while back
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# [20:32] <@bsmedberg> grr, the XUL block-in-box conversion doesn't seem to understand min-height at all
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# [20:38] <bgrins> ttaubert are any remaining leaks on b-c tests blocking Bug 932898?
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# [20:42] <RyanVM> bgrins: didn't past say that the patch I just landed didn't fix the reported leaks for it?
# [20:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d1ec44bb1db - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 933193 part 2. Implement nsINode::GetElementById and make SVGSVGElement use it. r=smaug
# [20:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ac2b3068888b - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 933193 part 3. Add getElementById to ParentNode. r=smaug
# [20:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e4fa51c53e0 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 933193 part 1. Factor out the id selector fast-path from querySelector(All) so we can reuse it a bit more broadly. r=smaug
# [20:43] <bgrins> RyanVM correct, there is one more leak left, but it sounds like a pretty unimportant test. So I'm wondering if we should disable the test as part of my final patch so we aren't blocking other stuff
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# [20:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e70cbddf7fb - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 925382. Error out of unified bindings if one of them includes windows.h. r=froydnj
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# [20:44] <RyanVM> bgrins: wfm :)
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# [20:44] <RyanVM> always suggest a final Try push first though :)
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# [20:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/df72f9b8213f - Matthew Gregan - Bug 933198 - gum_test.html doesn't provide audio on Windows nightly builds. r=jesup
# [20:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f35e995c0f4d - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 933009 - Warn when drawing to a destination smaller than the viewport. r=bjacob
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# [20:54] <Benvie> I can't do `mach build browser` as of today on Windows 8. pymake fails immediately with "No makefile found". Is there a bug for this
# [20:55] <Benvie> I can't build any non-top-level build
# [20:55] <TimAbraldes> ted: are you a good person to ask about CrashSubmit.jsm?
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# [20:58] <KWierso> Benvie: bug 933779
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# [21:15] <nemo> BTW, I've whined about this in the bug that was never fixed, but, it was never fixed, so...
# [21:15] <fitzgen> khuey|away: (fyi, I just r?'d you on bug 932912, which is just a simple matter of reflect.jsm not putting its export on this, so breaks on b2g)
# [21:15] <nemo> if anyone else is running into images routinely, as part of your work, that are unviewable in firefox, despite recent changes, I have an itsy-bitsy bookmarklet that might help
# [21:16] <nemo> I put it on http://m8y.org/bookmarklets.xhtml as the last entry, along with a sample png of one of those that wasn't viewable for me
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# [21:22] <NeilAway> anton: pong for 10 minutes
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# [21:23] <anton> NeilAway: quick question! is it possible to overwrite the default behavior for cmd_undo, cmd_cut and other commands? MDN says yes but it doesn't work. i insert a controller before all other controllers (insertControllerAt(0, ...)) and commandSupport gets called and commandEnabled gets called but doCommand doesn't
# [21:23] <ttaubert> bgrins: yeah, there's some more https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=88519eedd2dd
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# [21:24] <anton> NeilAway: (gavin sent me your way, feel free to forward)
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# [21:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a63e406139b5 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 931846 - Change startup cache location for Metro Firefox. r=jimm, aklotz
# [21:26] <bgrins> ttaubert manifest editor should be fixed now, I have a try push that should bring devtools leaks to 0
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# [21:26] <ttaubert> bgrins: nice work :)
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# [21:27] <RyanVM> wewt
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# [21:27] <NeilAway> anton: well, we already do it in some cases
# [21:28] <NeilAway> anton: e.g. http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/browser/base/content/urlbarBindings.xml#535
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# [21:29] <anton> hmmmm why doesn't it work for me. i wonder if that's because i update commands onpopupshowing
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# [21:30] <bgrins> ttaubert: should my try push with the last patch include the leak detector or not?
# [21:31] <ttaubert> bgrins: depends if you want to know whether there are still leaks or not? :)
# [21:32] <bgrins> I'd prefer to just assume that all my changes are working… but I guess I will include it anyway
# [21:32] <ttaubert> okay
# [21:32] <ttaubert> I can upload the most recent version if you like
# [21:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23226a9c128d - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 847714 - Try to resize, and halve the size until it succeeds. r=bjacob
# [21:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/06e1ac9ff72d - Dustin J. Mitchell - Bug 925458 - Fix test_browserGlue_shutdown.js to not fail most of the time. r=mak
# [21:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61fc0b5ab0ce - Randell Jesup - Bug 932215 - Lazily allocate log buffers for webrtc (4MB saving). r=jib
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# [21:33] <bgrins> ttaubert sure, that would be great
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# [21:55] <@roc> I sorta wish pushes that caused unexpected PASS would just automagically fix themselves up
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# [21:56] <Ms2ger> You don't want the warm and fuzzy feeling when fixing them up? :)
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# [22:01] <@roc> no. I don't
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# [22:02] <RyanVM> roc: thanks for making the dom tests suck less :)
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# [22:06] <Ms2ger> roc++
# [22:06] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, open badges for making sheriffs happy ;)
# [22:06] <@roc> I didn't do miuch.
# [22:07] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: there's an idea
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# [22:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/173d837f2b5f - Terrence Cole - Bug 932530 - Handle getType failure in DenseAdd IC; r=djvj
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# [22:14] <RyanVM> bz: that m3 failure on your push has me feeling nervous
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# [22:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd9d6b4fb8c3 - Terrence Cole - Bug 931991 - Fix an exact rooting hazard in AttemptAsyncScriptParse; r=bholley
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# [22:18] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, yep, you're right
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# [22:20] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: indeed
# [22:20] <RyanVM> out she goes
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# [22:22] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: at least there were a bunch of busted pushes after it, so the starring load will be less :P
# [22:22] <Ms2ger> Woo :)
# [22:23] <KWierso> yay, bustage!
# [22:23] <KWierso> :P
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# [22:42] <froydnj> whoa, tbpl is definitely faster
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# [22:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8df3d278b486 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 933804 - Skip completely transparent items in AccessFu. r=marcoz
# [22:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0538002a47d - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 933408 - Introduce prefilter transparent. r=surkov
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# [22:52] <Gijs> froydnj: ping
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# [23:07] <Benvie> gps: bug 877308 is what caused bug 933779
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# [23:10] <froydnj> Gijs: pong
# [23:10] <Gijs> froydnj: hey. So, I'm not a cocoa dev, but is there any chance bug 933071 caused bug 933964
# [23:10] <Gijs> ?
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# [23:11] * froydnj looks
# [23:12] <Gijs> froydnj: I think for the window buttons on UX we use a non-public OS X API, and "private framework" sounds related, and this was the only change in widget/cocoa/ in the merge that first showed the issue
# [23:12] <froydnj> Gijs: that hunk is a possible cause, although we didn't really understand how it could do anything
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# [23:13] <Gijs> right, it's possible that it's useless on m-c
# [23:13] <Gijs> but not on UX?
# [23:13] <Gijs> (the window button stuff is only on UX)
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# [23:14] <@ted> TimAbraldes: yes, but not at this time of day :-P
# [23:15] <froydnj> Gijs: so -framework QuickTime doesn't appear anywhere in the build logs
# [23:15] <froydnj> Gijs: on MC or UX
# [23:15] <froydnj> Gijs: and AFAICS, nothing in widget/coca is building a library
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# [23:18] <froydnj> Gijs: I think if there were issues on UX related to that change, the build would have just failed
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# [23:19] <Gijs> froydnj: yeah, that's what I thought too
# [23:19] <Gijs> thanks for looking!
# [23:20] <froydnj> Gijs: np!
# [23:21] <froydnj> Gijs: my condolences for having to wade through a 160 cset merge to find your bustage =/
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# [23:21] <Gijs> froydnj: yeah...
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# [23:30] <KWierso> terrence: ping
# [23:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e866558c6f3 - Terrence Cole - Backout cd9d6b4fb8c3 for mochitest failures.
# [23:31] <KWierso> terrence: unping :)
# [23:32] <philor> heh
# [23:32] <philor> at least I'm logged into treestatus now
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# [23:33] <terrence> :-D
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# [23:34] <philor> six hour backlog on Try tests, so if you pushed something this morning that you already know is busted or already pushed to inbound, be kind, kill the rest of it
# [23:34] <efaust> wow
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# [23:34] <philor> pretty normal weekday, really
# [23:35] <terrence> philor: is there a way to do that from tbpl on m-i?
# [23:35] <terrence> philor: we should probably kill cd9... and the next one
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# [23:36] <philor> terrence: the problem with killing there is that you're killing other stuff that might tell us something
# [23:37] <terrence> philor: good point!
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# [23:37] <philor> long slow build bustage I'll kill anyway, but debug-only crashes a way in? who knows, next person up might push an opt+debug startup crash
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# [23:38] <philor> probably didn't, but might have, you never know
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# [23:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3436653be106 - Terrence Cole - Bug 933382 - Fix the "all slots" post barrier; r=h4writer
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# [23:48] <Ms2ger> Poor terrence
# [23:48] <terrence> philor: link?
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# [23:49] <terrence> philor: it should only touch SM(ggc) and I just tested that config locally
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# [23:49] <philor> terrence: you must have been in jonco's queue for some reason, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?showall=1&tree=Try&rev=64651a1a79ca
# [23:50] <terrence> philor: this is green for ggc builds currently: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=e9f206f46ccc
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# [23:50] <terrence> philor: where "green" is more of a baseline than a color
# [23:50] <philor> just happened to be looking at it, while looking for people I could "help" to decide their try pushes were done
# [23:51] <terrence> philor: please keep that one at least... we need to know if any of the patches there get us closer to green
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# [23:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f1dc225c521 - Monica Chew - Bug 887044: Remove CsdTesting/Mozilla from User-Agent, set safebrowsing URLs to use the GOOGLE_API_KEY (r=dougt)
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