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  1. # Session Start: Mon Nov 04 00:00:00 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
  3. # [00:00] <glandium> heftig: running make check, make buildsymbols, hg clone, and many other things that are slow
  4. # [00:00] <@smaug> oh, other usernames too :/
  5. # [00:00] <glandium> smaug: yeah :-/
  6. # [00:00] <heftig> glandium: oh, i mean the arch linux builds, not mozilla ones
  7. # [00:00] <heftig> those are mostly building, on a 4 core i7
  8. # [00:01] <@smaug> 70min on i7 ?
  9. # [00:02] <glandium> heftig: are the arch packages compressed with xz?
  10. # [00:02] <glandium> that adds a lot to my debian packages build times
  11. # [00:02] <@smaug> I have i7 laptop (64bit linux) and opt build is about the same as debug, ~30mins
  12. # [00:03] <heftig> glandium: yeah, they are. about 71MB uncompressed
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  15. # [00:04] <glandium> heftig: you're not keeping the debug info?
  16. # [00:05] <glandium> heftig: also, how are you doing the build?
  17. # [00:05] <heftig> glandium: everything get stripped by default
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  21. # [00:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/516f2e40f5dd - Mark Hammond - Bug 932149 - add --e10s option to mach's mochitest commands and to testrunner.py. r=ted
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  34. # [00:28] <heftig> glandium: what do you mean "how are you doing the build?"
  35. # [00:29] <heftig> glandium: what details do you want to know?
  36. # [00:29] <glandium> heftig: what commands?
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  38. # [00:30] <heftig> glandium: make -f client.mk build
  39. # [00:30] <heftig> make -f client.mk install
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  51. # [00:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56250f9fc066 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 932440 - Re-fix a compiler warning in memorymetrics that was fixed in bug 924608 but was then undone by a bad manual merge. r=me.
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  57. # [00:50] <philor> so since test_playback_rate.html is so obviously corrupting memory, shouldn't we disable it until it stops doing so?
  58. # [00:50] <philor> and shouldn't someone wire me up so I get an electric shock every time I unnecessarily use "so"?
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  63. # [01:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf2681f80043 - Bas Schouten - Bug 934286: Ifdef Mozilla specific cairo function usage. r=mattwoodrow
  64. # [01:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1aa8cb86bef0 - Bas Schouten - Bug 934287: Add size and for data DrawTarget creation functions. r=mattwoodrow
  65. # [01:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f8783dc5333 - Bas Schouten - Bug 933030 - Addition: Remove external dependency added to Moz2D. r=mattwoodrow
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  70. # [01:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/680347522c38 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 930202 - Fix aliasing issue in session restore (r=ttaubert)
  71. # [01:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c7eeacda033 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 933587 - Fix undefined Ci reference in session store (r=markh)
  72. # [01:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/01488c58bca1 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 930202 - Cancel pending session collections when restoring (r=ttaubert)
  73. # [01:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6e895ec63744 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 930202 - New session restore tests (r=ttaubert)
  74. # [01:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/745c8b54f04f - Mark Hammond - Bug 932552 - add tests for comments in manifest expressions. r=jhammel
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  78. # [01:19] <philor> wow, could we suck any more at disabling tests?
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  80. # [01:19] <glandium> philor: i'm sure we could
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  83. # [01:20] <philor> well, maybe, but we would have to print the tests out, fold them into paper airplanes, stick pins in the tips, and throw them at each other's eyes to do so
  84. # [01:21] <philor> oh, look, it's some of edwin's renabling!
  85. # [01:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3dddba67772f - Mark Hammond - Bug 930849 - add a datareporting field to mozinfo. r=ted
  86. # [01:23] <philor> conveniently, we've known that this test corrupted memory far far longer than we've been running ASan, and just merrily said so and left it running, or said so and disabled it on one platform and then reenabled it later on
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  96. # [01:36] <edwin> Haven't even been back a day. Rough.
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  100. # [01:40] <philor> we got... rather angry while you were gone ;)
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  102. # [01:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3dd1dc64123a - Phil Ringnalda - No bug (or rather, too many), disable test_playback_rate.html for constant timeouts and crashes in random locations across every platform it ever gets enabled on
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  104. # [01:42] <firebot> Check-in:
  105. # [01:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3dd1dc64123a - Phil Ringnalda - No bug (or rather, too many), disable test_playback_rate.html for constant timeouts and crashes in random locations across every platform it ever gets enabled on
  106. # [01:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07cedf69a2ed - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-c to m-i
  107. # [01:45] <edwin> philor: Yeah, ryanvm pm'd me but I've been away since start of October =\
  108. # [01:46] <philor> edwin: welcome back!
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  110. # [01:46] <cpearce> philor: please land patches like that against a bug in video/audio so that we can track what you're doing to our test suite please.
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  113. # [01:49] <philor> cpearce: I thought about using the security bug where I'm currently typing the comment, but it seemed... insecure to do so
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  116. # [01:50] <cpearce> philor: you could have picked any of the playback_rate bugs.
  117. # [01:50] <philor> cpearce: indeed, and having now typed the numbers twice, I should have used all of the random crashes, and I will next time
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  119. # [01:51] <philor> I avoid using bug numbers where I don't want comments while landing on inbound, since m-c merge really likes to comment, but that wasn't actually a problem this time
  120. # [01:52] <cpearce> philor: thanks.
  121. # [01:53] <edwin> Woah that's a lot of bug numbers
  122. # [01:53] <edwin> Should just coalesce into "Bug XXXXXX - test_playback_rate.html | shit's fucked"
  123. # [01:55] <philor> yeah, I knew there were a few but I was surprised by how many one-off ones I'd never seen
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  159. # [02:41] <philor> oh, thanks for crashing [@ std::basic_string<char,std::char_traits<char>,std::allocator<char> >::basic_string<char,std::char_traits<char>,std::allocator<char> >(std::basic_string<char,std::char_traits<char>,std::allocator<char> > &&)], est_dataChannel_basicAudioVideo.html
  160. # [02:41] <philor> that's going to go really well with tbpl's busted escaping of < and >
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  162. # [02:46] <@khuey> mmm monday morning
  163. # [02:46] <@khuey> time to unbitrot all my patches
  164. # [02:48] <@njn> khuey: bonjour
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  166. # [02:50] <@khuey> njn: 倪浩
  167. # [02:50] <markh> or for people on Windows: mmm monday morning, time to see if there's already a bug for the obligatory mach build bustage...
  168. # [02:51] <@khuey> njn: ahah, not even the right ones
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  170. # [02:51] <@khuey> 你好 I think
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  172. # [02:52] <@njn> khuey: Google Translate says the first pair mean "Ni Hao"
  173. # [02:52] <@khuey> yeah
  174. # [02:52] <@khuey> it translated it as a name or something
  175. # [02:52] <@khuey> not as hello
  176. # [02:52] <@njn> khuey: Ni Hao to you to
  177. # [02:52] * @khuey isn't sure what he did wrong
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  179. # [02:53] <@khuey> njn: shows how much chinese I've learned :-P
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  185. # [02:54] * @khuey should probably do reviews today
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  187. # [02:55] <@njn> khuey: yes plz
  188. # [02:55] <glandium> khuey: the only chinese i know besides ni hao and xie xie is rude
  189. # [02:56] <@khuey> glandium: I can recognize a few characters now
  190. # [02:56] <@khuey> mostly food and place names
  191. # [02:57] <@khuey> and a couple spoken words
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  209. # [03:14] <stevensn> Can someone push a patch to try for me? (https://bug885002.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=826559)
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  212. # [03:19] <@njn> stevensn: I can. Against m-c or m-i? What's your desired |try:| line?
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  220. # [03:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/542b953e3bff - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 933074 - Allow a pldhash to be reasonably overloaded if it cannot be grown further. r=jorendorff.
  221. # [03:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56fc3fc6a42a - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 933605 (part 2) - Don't declare all vars at the top of functions in pldhash.cpp. r=jorendorff.
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  223. # [03:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/95af1e72abff - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 933605 (part 1) - Remove DEBUG_XXXbrendan-only code. r=jorendorff.
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  226. # [03:22] <stevensn> m-c : try: -b o -p all -u all -t none
  227. # [03:24] <@khuey> markh: so what problem were you seeing with mac?
  228. # [03:24] <@khuey> markh: er, mach?
  229. # [03:24] <@njn> stevensn: ok, will do
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  231. # [03:24] <stevensn> njn: thanks
  232. # [03:24] <@khuey> "sheppy-offline is online"
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  234. # [03:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/993223b5bbe7 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 922942 - Change test_pointer-events-2 to not use overlapping stokes since they're not consistently rendered by our backends. r=jwatt
  235. # [03:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/33bf96af921c - Matt Woodrow - Bug 927413 - Gracefully handle 0 sized DrawWindow rects. r=roc
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  237. # [03:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/effddcf29fa7 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 922942 - Use the screen reference draw target in SVG. r=jwatt
  238. # [03:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/412123f1e16a - Matt Woodrow - Bug 922515 - Don't apply a skew matrix to the DT when it's cairo, since we use the cairo font with it already applied. r=Bas
  239. # [03:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a60b5eb6b8ba - Matt Woodrow - Bug 922942 - Add some fuzz to some SVG path measurement tests since D2D doesn't return exact results. r=roc
  240. # [03:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a3b01d520ac - Matt Woodrow - Bug 922942 - Avoid crashes with PointInFill. r=Bas
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  248. # [03:35] <@njn> stevensn: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=7538d134a4e7
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  251. # [03:41] <markh> khuey: bug 933779
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  254. # [03:45] <@khuey> markh: ah, ./mach build still works
  255. # [03:45] <@khuey> which is why I didn't see a problem
  256. # [03:46] <markh> yeah
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  280. # [04:20] <@khuey> 13 reviews on the wall
  281. # [04:20] <@khuey> take one down, pass it around
  282. # [04:20] <@khuey> now 15 reviews on the wall
  283. # [04:20] <@khuey> not fair :-(
  284. # [04:22] <sfink|away> try reassigning your reviews to the other people who have requested review, to slow them down
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  299. # [04:37] <@njn> khuey: a while back I told jorendorff to send easy JS front-end patches (of which he gets a lot) my way. He did it exactly once.
  300. # [04:37] * @njn shrugs
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  302. # [04:43] <glob> njn, hey, c'grats on your low-level-ness :D
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  313. # [04:55] <@njn> glob: thanks!
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  315. # [04:56] <@njn> glob: actually, "Your Low-Level-ness" is what you're supposed to call me now
  316. # [04:56] <@khuey> HRLL?
  317. # [04:56] <glob> noted
  318. # [04:56] <@njn> or "Your Lowness" for short
  319. # [04:56] <@khuey> or just HRL?
  320. # [04:56] <@njn> in the 3rd person, yes
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  322. # [04:57] <@khuey> ok, it's noon and I managed to rebase my patch stack
  323. # [04:57] <@khuey> now time to apply review comments
  324. # [04:57] * @khuey is going to burn most of the day on this :-/
  325. # [04:58] <glob> i'm beginning to suspect someone isn't a fan of australis
  326. # [04:59] <glandium> glob: yeah
  327. # [04:59] <glob> sorry abound the second round of bugspam as i mark them as private
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  329. # [05:00] <glob> on the plus side, someone's passionate about firefox :D
  330. # [05:01] <@khuey> looked like he is passionate about profanity to me
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  336. # [05:04] <nigelb> profanely passionate about firefox.
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  349. # [05:23] <glob> lol, there's even a comment on a marionette bug
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  351. # [05:30] <glandium> glob: for australis?
  352. # [05:31] <glob> glandium, yup
  353. # [05:31] <@njn> sounds like a professional
  354. # [05:31] <@njn> profassional?
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  356. # [05:31] <glandium> grass mud horse?
  357. # [05:31] <glob> wat
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  359. # [05:34] <@njn> glob: that's glandium's xkcd password
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  361. # [05:35] <shu> glandium is chinese?
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  364. # [05:35] <glandium> shu: no, but that's about the only chinese i know
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  390. # [06:08] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1&rev=a833c2e9b95e
  391. # [06:08] <philor> the hell?
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  393. # [06:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/046d7a70ef24 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 745485. Optimize positioning offset changes whenever the computed size does not change. r=dholbert
  394. # [06:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13fb1897c93c - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 931432. Rename nsGfxScrollFrameInner to mozilla::ScrollFrameHelper, and mInner fields to mHelper. r=mats
  395. # [06:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3fb9ea77d858 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 876321. Track restyling of top/left/right/bottom and treat such nodes as active scrolled roots. r=mattwoodrow
  396. # [06:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/47c7022e4e11 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 913444. Track restyling of margins and treat such nodes as active scrolled roots. r=mattwoodrow
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  406. # [06:21] <smontagu> what is pulse audio and why do I care?
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  408. # [06:22] <vlad> that's the linux global system audio daemon, is it not?
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  410. # [06:22] <@roc> yes
  411. # [06:22] <glandium> one of
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  413. # [06:22] <vlad> well, right :)
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  415. # [06:23] <vlad> the most recent one
  416. # [06:23] <smontagu> config is telling me I need the dev package
  417. # [06:23] <glandium> smontagu: because our code can use it
  418. # [06:23] <glandium> although it won't require it at runtime
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  421. # [06:24] <smontagu> if I have it will I have a better audio experience at runtime, love, flowers and ponies?
  422. # [06:25] <glandium> smontagu: Chances are you will ; but there are chances you won't. That being said, installing libpulse-dev shouldn't change your defaults
  423. # [06:25] <kinetik> it should change the default, we prefer pulse over alsa when it's available
  424. # [06:26] <glandium> kinetik: it won't enable the *system* default
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  427. # [06:26] <kinetik> oh, i see what you're saying, yeah.
  428. # [06:27] * smontagu notes that it would have been nice if config had /named/ the package
  429. # [06:27] <smontagu> rather than just alluding to it
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  431. # [06:27] <kinetik> smontagu: apply the patch from bug 934290 and run ./mach bootstrap :-)
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  439. # [06:44] * @roc wonders why pulseaudio-libs-devel depends on vala
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  443. # [06:46] <glandium> roc: because fedora maintainers have no clue?
  444. # [06:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e81a5d9952d - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 6e895ec63744 (bug 930202) for frequent 10.7 debug timeouts
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  446. # [06:47] <glandium> is it just me or the stop icon now goes above the changeset on tbpl?
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  448. # [06:48] <philor> I would have described it as "behind the changeset"
  449. # [06:48] <glandium> philor: well it gets above when you are on top of it
  450. # [06:48] <glandium> philor: but it's not just me, then
  451. # [06:48] <philor> yeah, it does, doesn't it? blame RyanVM
  452. # [06:49] <glandium> i guess that buys a few horizontal pixels for the changeset summary, but that's kind of awful
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  457. # [06:50] <philor> functionally, wfm, copying link text is miserable so I always have a Copy Link Text extension installed
  458. # [06:51] <philor> plus I rarely care about anything on try other than killing rogue pushes :)
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  499. # [07:30] <philor> roc: you made windows sad
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  503. # [07:34] <philor> hmm, where by "windows" I mean "the antialiasing around the first 'i' in position"
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  508. # [07:38] <philor> oh, but while I could fuzz that, you made Android completely irate
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  510. # [07:41] <philor> well, I guess I can leave one of the four in, maybe probably
  511. # [07:42] <@roc> I plan to fuzz them all into submission
  512. # [07:43] <philor> 'k, CLOSED TREE in the commit message
  513. # [07:44] <philor> and since it's 108 of them on Android, happy typing :)
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  521. # [07:50] <smontagu> is it just me or does FlexContainer sound like it should be FluxCapacitor?
  522. # [07:51] <darktrojan> is your typing that bad?
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  526. # [07:53] <@roc> it's just you
  527. # [07:55] * darktrojan is trying to understand how fastcodesign's homepage attracts massive visit counts in places.sqlite, and if they're doing it deliberately
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  531. # [07:56] <darktrojan> e.g. http://www.fastcodesign.com/homepage/2013/10/28 has a visit_count of 82 and therefore frecency of 8200
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  534. # [08:01] <darktrojan> oh good one, it goes up every time you scroll
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  540. # [08:12] <@roc> hmm, looks like the Android R3 runs actually died halfway through the reftest list
  541. # [08:12] <@roc> so I can't accurately fuzz based on their results
  542. # [08:12] <@roc> I'll back something out instead
  543. # [08:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> thx roc
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  549. # [08:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/516c014354de - Robert O'Callahan - Backout changeset 47c7022e4e11 for bug 913444
  550. # [08:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4143e04bea1 - Robert O'Callahan - Backout changeset 3fb9ea77d858 for bug 876321 due to test failures (CLOSED TREE)
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  554. # [08:21] <mattwoodrow> roc: Might just be a truncated log rather than actually dying
  555. # [08:22] <@roc> I don't think so. It's OK
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  654. # [10:14] <ghost> Hello, I have some question about websockets protocol, the way it's implemented on firefox, is it possible to get information in this channel ? :)
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  656. # [10:15] <@khuey> you can try
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  660. # [10:17] <ghost> Okey, then. I'm wondering if a timeout is defined for connection establishing, if the server didn't handshake in a certain time ?
  661. # [10:18] <ghost> actually, i'm working on a server that would handle a websocket connection, on firefox if I don't handshake, the connection will be "closed"
  662. # [10:18] <@khuey> I think that's what network.websocket.timeout.open controls
  663. # [10:18] <ghost> it's not the case on chromium
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  665. # [10:19] <ghost> khuey: I see that it's set to 10s
  666. # [10:19] <@khuey> I don't think we allow open non-handshaked connections indefinitely
  667. # [10:20] <ghost> any idea about webkit ?
  668. # [10:20] <ghost> seems that there is no timeout
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  670. # [10:21] <Gijs> I think I should take bets for what's causing this crash. :|
  671. # [10:21] <Gijs> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=933964#c16
  672. # [10:22] <Ms2ger> Butterflies
  673. # [10:22] <Gijs> (that single comment has both a stack and a <10 cset regression range... and I'm stumped enough to have started another 4 try pushes to narrow it down further)
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  675. # [10:22] <Gijs> Ms2ger: I'll give you excellent odds on that one...
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  677. # [10:23] <Gijs> (and no, I'm not taking "bz" as an answer)
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  684. # [10:26] <ghost> I also noticed something strange on firefox, when the connection is closed (timeout, or websocket.close() ), it's not really closed on the server side, not until I close the webpage
  685. # [10:26] <ghost> do you think that it's a bug ?
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  689. # [10:29] <@khuey> that seems weird
  690. # [10:30] <@khuey> it sounds like a bug, yes
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  720. # [10:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8051da2a530 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 837566 - Remove js_RemoveRoot. r=terrence.
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  730. # [11:09] <nigelb> 39
  731. # [11:09] <nigelb> (gah)
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  735. # [11:14] <AutomatedTester> glob|away: was this in the pointer events bug
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  762. # [11:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da5df68e8857 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 931812 - Remove inheritance of RelocatableFoo from EncapsulatedFoo to disallow casting away of postbarriers r=terrence
  763. # [11:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/495a9c210b91 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 933798 - Don't unnecessarily deoptimize name accesses in try blocks in lazily parsed functions. r=bhackett
  764. # [11:46] <decoder> edmorley: regarding bug 932159, what would you want to backout?
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  770. # [11:50] <edmorley> decoder: looking
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  772. # [11:53] <decoder> edmorley: thx. btw, im still trying to figure out whats wrong with the error in comment 14. I reproduced it locally, but it does not reproduce if I just run the tests from that one sub directory
  773. # [11:53] <decoder> smells really fishy. might be easier to bisect it and back out the regressor until we know what it is
  774. # [11:54] <decoder> or ask the dev first of course =)
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  792. # [12:11] <edmorley> decoder: I think Ryan meant did we need to back out https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/26a116feaf60 now?
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  794. # [12:12] <edmorley> or at least, "is it still needed"
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  797. # [12:14] <decoder> edmorley: i have no clue how I confused you both :P
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  799. # [12:14] <decoder> but yea, that makes sense. I dont know if it's still needed. I can do a try push later
  800. # [12:14] <decoder> but i need to clear up the other orange first and I still have no clue about it
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  803. # [12:18] <edmorley> decoder: ok :-)
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  809. # [12:25] <decoder> shu: nmatsakis: bug 926710 broke all js fuzzing
  810. # [12:25] <decoder> breaks --disable-threadsafe
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  812. # [12:26] <nmatsakis> decoder: oh?
  813. # [12:27] * Ms2ger wonders if it would be better to fuzz what we ship
  814. # [12:27] <decoder> nmatsakis: i just posted in the bug
  815. # [12:27] <decoder> Ms2ger: no it wouldnt
  816. # [12:27] <Ms2ger> Also, I find it funny that #c0 starts "This will help fuzzing..."
  817. # [12:28] <decoder> because ts builds often reproduce bugs a lot harder than non-ts builds
  818. # [12:28] <decoder> they make bugs non-deterministic that behave deterministically under non-ts
  819. # [12:28] <nmatsakis> decoder: ok, I see, should be easy enough to fix. Sorry about that.
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  821. # [12:29] <nmatsakis> decoder: ps, it's worth exploring threadsafe fuzzing nonetheless, since there are certain bugs (and features) that only crop up in threaded settings, but I guess that's obvious
  822. # [12:29] <decoder> nmatsakis: we are fuzzing both
  823. # [12:29] <decoder> just the majority is non-ts
  824. # [12:29] <nmatsakis> decoder: ok, I was going to add "but I expect you're fuzzing both already"
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  826. # [12:30] <nmatsakis> decoder: but you beat me to it :)
  827. # [12:30] <decoder> :D
  828. # [12:31] <decoder> nmatsakis: let me know when you have a fix, then I can apply it locally at least on one machine that I need right now
  829. # [12:31] <nmatsakis> decoder: yeah working on that right now
  830. # [12:32] <decoder> thx!
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  834. # [12:38] <Gijs> ugh
  835. # [12:38] <nmatsakis> decoder: re-reading the patch, I'm not really sure why shu made runtime_ conditional anyhow.
  836. # [12:38] <Gijs> where is the bug again about how ./mach build <whatever> is broken on Windows? :|
  837. # [12:38] * Gijs finds bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=933779
  838. # [12:39] <decoder> nmatsakis: maybe he wanted to save stack space in non-ts opt builds but since we dont ship that, that doesnt make much sense either
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  840. # [12:39] <decoder> err, save memory in general, since it's a class field
  841. # [12:40] <decoder> ill try removing the condition
  842. # [12:40] <nmatsakis> decoder: I just posted a patch to that effect, f? you
  843. # [12:40] <decoder> nmatsakis: ok trying
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  845. # [12:40] <nmatsakis> decoder: let me know if you have further probs (though I'll be disappearing for an hour or two soon)
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  848. # [12:43] <decoder> nmatsakis: ok building now :)
  849. # [12:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88e0c01e2d81 - Henri Sivonen - Bug 910192 non-UI part - Get rid of intl.charset.default as a localizable pref and deduce the fallback from the locale. r=bzbarsky.
  850. # [12:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a34d87e94281 - Henri Sivonen - Bug 910192 UI part - Get rid of intl.charset.default as a localizable pref and deduce the fallback from the locale. r=gavin.
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  861. # [12:51] <decoder> nmatsakis: confirmed that it works
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  866. # [12:53] <nmatsakis> decoder: great
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  875. # [13:02] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hsivonen: ping
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  877. # [13:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hsivonen: bustage on mozilla-inbound for your latest push
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  879. # [13:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> backing this out
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  881. # [13:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: ^ will close the tree for this backout
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  883. # [13:07] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: :-)
  884. # [13:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok done :)
  885. # [13:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0158a1544e4d - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset a34d87e94281 (bug 910192) bustage on a CLOSED TREE
  886. # [13:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d030a97bb90b - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 88e0c01e2d81 (bug 910192) bustage on a CLOSED TREE
  887. # [13:09] <hsivonen> Tomcat|sheriffduty: sorry. this is what happens when there's a large time gap between patch development and landing
  888. # [13:09] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np :)
  889. # [13:10] <hsivonen> looks like a bad rebase under streamconv
  890. # [13:10] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah put a link to the error log in the bug
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  893. # [13:18] <zzzzz> Is it just me not having my coffee yet or did the Nightly's not start today ?
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  895. # [13:19] <pp> Hello I just fixed a small bug in mozila firefox but dont knw how to submit or test my fix. pls help
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  897. # [13:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: doing now the merges
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  899. # [13:21] <edmorley> thank you :-)
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  902. # [13:21] <decoder> nmatsakis: see pm
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  911. # [13:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/88ab1ed5f056 - Jared Wein - Bug 933745 - Use the brand logo as the favicon for about:support. r=Unfocused
  912. # [13:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fa59c8212e9e - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge fx-team to mozilla-central
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  927. # [13:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> zzzzz: it was not your coffee, we retrigger the nighlys now
  928. # [13:55] <zzzzz> Thanks Tom
  929. # [13:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> so they will start :)
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  931. # [13:56] <edmorley> zzzzz: to clarify: the Nightly should be automatically generated, but for some reason it didn't today, so Tomcat has manually triggered one now, so it will be a few more hours before it's ready
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  933. # [13:57] <zzzzz> thanks Ed, I understand
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  936. # [13:58] <zzzzz> DST mess up the scheduler ? perhaps ..
  937. # [13:58] <edmorley> zzzzz: likely another case of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=922167 (except vice versa with b2g but not others)
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  940. # [14:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fec854fceba6 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 933351 - IDBRequest should not write warning messages about callee when created by IPC IDB, r=janv, f=bholley
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  970. # [14:35] <bz_away> Is there a sane way to go from a tree-management regression mail to the compare-talos results for that range?
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  980. # [14:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ebf8b8bb7151 - Ed Morley - Bug 919016 - Disable test_privbrowsing_perwindowpb.html on Windows for too many intermittent failures
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  1007. # [14:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bbf4142fb81e - Henri Sivonen - Bug 910192 non-UI part - Get rid of intl.charset.default as a localizable pref and deduce the fallback from the locale. r=bzbarsky.
  1008. # [14:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d79a832a8cae - Henri Sivonen - Bug 910192 UI part - Get rid of intl.charset.default as a localizable pref and deduce the fallback from the locale. r=gavin.
  1009. # [14:58] <Fallen> What visual studio version was used for Thunderbird/Firefox 17?
  1010. # [14:58] <Fallen> 2010 or 2008?
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  1018. # [15:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: hm seems this a new orange after your push on fx-team
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  1020. # [15:06] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: yeah, I've got a patch
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  1022. # [15:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: cool
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  1025. # [15:08] <bholley> Gijs: ping
  1026. # [15:09] <Gijs> bholley: pong
  1027. # [15:09] <bholley> Gijs: can I convinced you to use an options object for this API?
  1028. # [15:09] <bholley> Gijs: we have helper code to make it pretty easy
  1029. # [15:09] <Gijs> bholley: you can convince me to file a followup bug
  1030. # [15:10] <bholley> Gijs: well, I don't want to add an API and then immediately change it
  1031. # [15:10] <bholley> Gijs: this is an API design problem
  1032. # [15:10] <Gijs> bholley: fair point
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  1034. # [15:10] <bholley> Gijs: and it's especially problematic because this is expected to be used by external developers
  1035. # [15:10] <Gijs> bholley: but presumably you'd want the charset to become part of this
  1036. # [15:10] <Gijs> which means breaking backwards compat
  1037. # [15:10] <Gijs> which the current patch doesn't do
  1038. # [15:10] <bholley> Gijs: it could. But that's actually easy to do
  1039. # [15:10] <bholley> Gijs: it wouldn't break
  1040. # [15:10] <bholley> Gijs: you just detect whether the param is an object or a string
  1041. # [15:11] * Gijs shudders
  1042. # [15:11] <bholley> Gijs: shudder?
  1043. # [15:11] <Gijs> bholley: it sounds like you're making me learn about xpconnect
  1044. # [15:11] <Gijs> bholley: which is something I've avoided, with good reason :P
  1045. # [15:11] <bholley> Gijs: well, you wrote a patch ;-)
  1046. # [15:11] <Gijs> the patch is trivial!
  1047. # [15:12] <bholley> Gijs: but we can skip the charset thing
  1048. # [15:12] <Gijs> It's like, what, 4 lines of comments, 4 lines of code?
  1049. # [15:12] <bholley> Gijs: this would be similar
  1050. # [15:12] <bholley> Gijs: it's really quite easy
  1051. # [15:12] <Gijs> alright then
  1052. # [15:12] <bholley> Gijs: we have a turnkey mechanism
  1053. # [15:12] <bholley> Gijs: you just subclass OptionBase
  1054. # [15:12] <Gijs> bholley: can you link/explain on the bug? :)
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  1056. # [15:12] <bholley> er, OptionsBase
  1057. # [15:12] <bholley> Gijs: yes, I will
  1058. # [15:12] <Gijs> bholley: awesome, thanks!
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  1060. # [15:13] <hsivonen> do we have multilocale Android nightlies somewhere?
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  1079. # [15:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/12322f8944c0 - Simon Montagu - Add Apple SD Gothic Neo to Korean default font list for OSX 10.8. Bug 923713, r=jdaggett
  1080. # [15:22] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: landed a bustage fix.
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  1092. # [15:29] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: thank you
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  1108. # [15:37] <@smaug> ttaubert: you really need #define getpid _getpid ?
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  1112. # [15:37] <@smaug> hmm, looks like we have that elsewhere
  1113. # [15:37] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: don't thank me until it's all green... :P
  1114. # [15:38] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
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  1150. # [15:58] <ttaubert> smaug: yeah I just stole it from the other places
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  1152. # [16:01] <paul> Any recent changes in the flex box model (display:flex) that would have changed how text is aligned?
  1153. # [16:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d6407f65254c - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 932782 - b2g desktop mochitest mach target should use the new manifest, r=jgriffin, DONTBUILD, a=NPOTB
  1154. # [16:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f75f5df9bdc1 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 931116 - Disable initial failing b2g desktop mochitests to turn them on, r=jgriffin, DONTBUILD, a=NPOTB
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  1157. # [16:02] <Gijs> bholley: ping :)
  1158. # [16:02] <bholley> Gijs: hi
  1159. # [16:03] <Gijs> bholley: so two questions. One, on IRC you said we should detect the options obj vs. charset string indicator case dynamically - but your explanation doesn't seem to address how to do that? :)
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  1161. # [16:03] <bholley> Gijs: I changed my suggestion to suggest that we just introduce a differently-named method
  1162. # [16:03] <Gijs> OK :)
  1163. # [16:03] <bholley> Gijs: which makes the problem moot
  1164. # [16:03] <Gijs> just checking
  1165. # [16:03] <bholley> yeah
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  1167. # [16:03] <Gijs> the other thing... what default do I use in the options constructor for a charset?
  1168. # [16:04] <Gijs> nullptr? "" ?
  1169. # [16:04] <Gijs> something else?
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  1173. # [16:04] <Gijs> s/default/initial value/, I guess
  1174. # [16:04] <bholley> Gijs: um, let me look
  1175. # [16:04] <Gijs> bholley: I'm actually not clear on by what magic that code can later be checking charset.IsVoid
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  1184. # [16:06] <bholley> Gijs: the default is almost certainly the empty string
  1185. # [16:07] <bholley> Gijs: because mozJSSubScriptLoader::LoadSubScript accepts an nsAString&
  1186. # [16:07] <bholley> Gijs: which can't be null
  1187. # [16:07] <bholley> Gijs: but it's optional
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  1189. # [16:07] <bholley> Gijs: so I can't imagine XPConnect using any other default than the empty string
  1190. # [16:07] <Gijs> bholley: fascinating. And xpconnect/xpcom then fills that in?
  1191. # [16:07] <Ms2ger> Eh?
  1192. # [16:07] <Ms2ger> nsAString can be void
  1193. # [16:07] <bholley> Ms2ger: ok, then that
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  1195. # [16:07] <bholley> Gijs: I was mistaken
  1196. # [16:08] <bholley> Gijs: it will be void
  1197. # [16:08] <bholley> Gijs: yes, XPConnect fills in defaults for optional arguments
  1198. # [16:08] <bholley> Ms2ger: if you just declare nsString foo; is foo.IsVoid() true?
  1199. # [16:08] <Ms2ger> No, it's false
  1200. # [16:08] <Gijs> please excuse my dumbness wrt cpp but... is that the same as nullptr? Something else?
  1201. # [16:08] <Ms2ger> Something else
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  1203. # [16:09] <Ms2ger> IsVoid is just a function on nsAString that checks a flag
  1204. # [16:09] <bholley> Gijs: it's an explicit sentinel that's built into nsAString, apparently
  1205. # [16:09] <Gijs> urgh
  1206. # [16:09] <Ms2ger> I blame xpconnect for the design :)
  1207. # [16:09] <Gijs> so I'm guessing I need a magical macro if I want to pass a void nsAString to an initializer thingy in a constructor?
  1208. # [16:09] <bholley> Gijs: no
  1209. # [16:10] <Ms2ger> NullString()
  1210. # [16:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/caef6eaabec2 - Dan Minor - Bug 932940 - Jit-test harness needs to set different remote --js-cache; r=terrence
  1211. # [16:10] <Ms2ger> And no, not VoidString()
  1212. # [16:10] <Gijs> because that'd make sense?
  1213. # [16:10] <Ms2ger> Well, it's really IsVoid that's stupid
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  1227. # [16:19] <bz> Gijs: NullString() is for a DOM string representing null
  1228. # [16:20] <bz> Gijs: you should probably not be using void strings for any other reason
  1229. # [16:20] <hsivonen> how common is it for email not to declare its encoding?
  1230. # [16:20] <hsivonen> email, after all, is typically generated by a MUA that knows what it's emitting
  1231. # [16:20] <froydnj> jcranmer|away: ^
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  1235. # [16:21] <jcranmer> hsivonen: I don't think I know the answer to that question
  1236. # [16:22] <hsivonen> jcranmer: OK. maybe we should get telemetry to see if the encoding detectors are at all worthwhile for email
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  1240. # [16:23] <jcranmer> hsivonen: fwiw, I was planning on making my new parser start out by not supporting encoding detection
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  1242. # [16:23] <bz> Gijs: ping
  1243. # [16:23] <Gijs> bz: pong
  1244. # [16:23] <bz> Gijs: so for bug 933964
  1245. # [16:23] <Gijs> yeah
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  1247. # [16:23] <Gijs> :(
  1248. # [16:23] <bz> Gijs: did you try only part 4, or also the intermediate states?
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  1250. # [16:23] <jcranmer> [since it's hard to hook up, and very few locales actually enable it]
  1251. # [16:23] <jcranmer> [and testing would be a nightmare]
  1252. # [16:24] <Gijs> bz: I only ran try on the last patch and before the first patch.
  1253. # [16:24] <bz> Gijs: as in, do we know whether it's definitely part 4 itself that causes the problem?
  1254. # [16:24] <bz> Gijs: ok
  1255. # [16:24] <Gijs> bz: when people land things with "part 0 through N", quite often compiling/running anything other than N is broken in some way
  1256. # [16:25] <Gijs> bz: if we can do try runs of the other csets to narrow this down further, maybe we should
  1257. # [16:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1bec2044db5c - Hannes Verschore - Bug 914255: Backout due to performance regressions to DOM, r=regression
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  1259. # [16:25] <hsivonen> jcranmer: cool
  1260. # [16:25] <jcranmer> hsivonen: I definitely would like telemetry here, though
  1261. # [16:26] <bz> Gijs: those changesets should all function independently
  1262. # [16:26] <bz> Gijs: so if you could kick off those try runs?
  1263. # [16:26] <hsivonen> jcranmer: do you happen to know if email still needs craziness like T.61 or HZ?
  1264. # [16:26] * bz is not sure how to do that while keeping the relevant UX branch bits
  1265. # [16:26] <jcranmer> for "how often do we rely on the fallback charset?", "how often do we rely on detection?", and "how often do we try to extract the charset from the HTML header?"
  1266. # [16:26] <bz> Gijs: I fully expect the issue is part 4, and will proceed on that assumption for now
  1267. # [16:27] <bz> Gijs: but it would be good to have confirmation.
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  1269. # [16:27] <Gijs> bz: sure, I can do that.
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  1271. # [16:27] <jcranmer> hsivonen: hard for me to say; my plan is to start by using TextDecoder to figure out what charsets we need to support and wait for bug reports to fly in
  1272. # [16:27] <bz> Gijs: thanks!
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  1274. # [16:28] <hsivonen> jcranmer: great
  1275. # [16:28] <jcranmer> hsivonen: Thunderbird is, AFAICT, the largest install-base for open-source email processing
  1276. # [16:28] <Gijs> bz: thank you for investigating... it's a puzzling issue as far as I'm concerned :s
  1277. # [16:28] <jcranmer> which means I don't get as good assurance by hunting down bug reports in other email clients
  1278. # [16:28] <hsivonen> jcranmer: TextDecoder supports HZ
  1279. # [16:29] <hsivonen> jcranmer: if we can get away with it, I'd like to remove HZ from Gecko
  1280. # [16:29] <hsivonen> TextDecoder doesn't support T.61
  1281. # [16:29] <jcranmer> Chinese is out of my realm
  1282. # [16:29] <jcranmer> although the apparent bugs in the big5 decoder scare me
  1283. # [16:29] <bz> Gijs: It's probably some dumb code corrupting memory is what it is
  1284. # [16:29] <bz> Gijs: which is why I'd like to hunt it down. ;)
  1285. # [16:30] <hsivonen> jcranmer: the multibyte decoders in general scare me as attack surface
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  1287. # [16:30] <Gijs> bz: yeah. I guess the good part is, we've got a reliable testcase.
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  1289. # [16:30] <bz> Yeah
  1290. # [16:30] <bz> Just a long change/test cycle
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  1292. # [16:31] * bz waits for the inevitable clobber so he can check whether his idea works
  1293. # [16:31] <jcranmer> hsivonen: the only charsets I have seen explicit bugs filed for in other trackers are aliases of some cyrillic charsets
  1294. # [16:32] <hsivonen> jcranmer: ok.
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  1296. # [16:32] <jcranmer> the problem is that I don't see the necessary ones that people already support
  1297. # [16:32] <froydnj> "bounce around with real simplified physics"...wtg peacekeeper
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  1299. # [16:32] <jcranmer> I just see the ones which people didn't support and got complaints for
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  1302. # [16:33] <hsivonen> scary. Wikipedia says T.61 is used is some PKCS spec.
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  1304. # [16:33] * hsivonen goes see if our security code calls into the T.61 code
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  1306. # [16:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4230bf842bca - Brian Hackett - Bug 932899 - Remove debug only stack/heap type set flags, r=jandem.
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  1308. # [16:35] <jcranmer> hsivonen: doing some sleuthing, it looks like that was PCKS#9, RFC 2985, which says that it swapped out TeletexString for effectively UTF-8
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  1311. # [16:37] <hsivonen> jcranmer: ok. good. I see NSS having some symbols that suggest T.61 strings, but I don't see calls to uconv.
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  1314. # [16:38] <jcranmer> hsivonen: that said, googling for TeletexString does turn up some results that suggest that certs using it exist
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  1317. # [16:40] <hsivonen> jcranmer: so weird to find that things like teletex affecting the Web platform through certs
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  1319. # [16:40] <hsivonen> I'm not supposed to be surprised by stuff like this anymore, but still
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  1321. # [16:42] <RyanVM> mstange: ping
  1322. # [16:42] <mstange> RyanVM: pong
  1323. # [16:42] <RyanVM> mstange: so about that needinfo? request in bug 886999 :P
  1324. # [16:42] <jcranmer> hsivonen: now that said, it doesn't like we ever do anything with teletexStrings...
  1325. # [16:43] <RyanVM> mstange: any chance we can get those fixes on 26?
  1326. # [16:43] <tbsaunde> jmaher: ping
  1327. # [16:44] <mstange> RyanVM: I think so, I'll create a roll-up patch of all the crash fixes for Aurora/Beta soon
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  1329. # [16:44] <RyanVM> mstange: thanks :) - note that 27 is Aurora at this point, so only beta is affected
  1330. # [16:44] <mstange> RyanVM: but it's going to take one or two days, my current work item is higher priority
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  1332. # [16:44] <mstange> oh, I see
  1333. # [16:44] <mstange> thanks
  1334. # [16:44] <RyanVM> not a problem, just wanted to make sure it was on the radar
  1335. # [16:44] <jmaher> tbsaunde: pong
  1336. # [16:44] <mstange> it is :)
  1337. # [16:44] <RyanVM> thanks :)
  1338. # [16:45] <Ms2ger> hsivonen, every time you think you can't get any sadder about encodings...
  1339. # [16:45] <tbsaunde> jmaher: I was just reminded we never solved thing with a11y having two page timings
  1340. # [16:46] <jmaher> tbsaunde: yeah, that is something I was hoping would solve itself when we switched to datazilla- we just haven't switched
  1341. # [16:46] <tbsaunde> and forgot until just now there's an open bug for that, so I was wondering what you thought we should do to fix it
  1342. # [16:46] <tbsaunde> jmaher: ah, any idea when we will?
  1343. # [16:46] <nmatsakis> decoder: re: bug 926710, I'll just land it, it's trivial enough
  1344. # [16:47] <jcranmer> hsivonen: so it looks like we don't actually need the T.61 decoder...
  1345. # [16:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/631e964be07d - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 926710 - Fix up non-threadsafe builds rs=trivial,blocking-fuzzer
  1346. # [16:47] <jmaher> tbsaunde: no way to predict; probably Q1 next year- our remaining work is to get the alerting correct- no more work on UI, data collection, servers, databases
  1347. # [16:49] <tbsaunde> ok, far enough
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  1371. # [17:01] <bz> Anyone know who runs dromaeo.com?
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  1374. # [17:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c610c3ac1ba9 - Dan Gohman - Bug 931487 - IonMonkey: Disable spilling to argument slots. r=bhackett
  1375. # [17:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64dfd7bc59f9 - Dan Gohman - Bug 934173 - SpiderMonkey: Mark debugMode() checks as JS_UNLIKELY. r=jorendorff
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  1403. # [17:08] <@smaug> bz: http://whois.domaintools.com/dromaeo.com
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  1405. # [17:08] <@smaug> jresig I think
  1406. # [17:09] <bz> ok
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  1423. # [17:15] <mbrubeck> It would be nice if Kraken had an actual website and docs too
  1424. # [17:15] * mbrubeck created https://wiki.mozilla.org/Kraken
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  1426. # [17:16] <nigelb> Don't we have a blog post of cpu hours consumed per build? Is that the monthly infrastructure posts?
  1427. # [17:16] <bz> Hrm
  1428. # [17:16] <bz> Changing nsTSubstring.h recompilesa lot. :(
  1429. # [17:16] <mbrubeck> nigelb: http://oduinn.com/blog/
  1430. # [17:16] <nigelb> Thanks!
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  1434. # [17:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aea34e69d171 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 932322 - Make Window's WebIDL properties be own properties of window. r=bz.
  1435. # [17:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e3bcb78784e - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 932309 - Don't null out mDoc in nsGlobalWindow::FreeInnerObjects. r=smaug.
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  1465. # [17:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/dcc8c99781dc - Douglas Crosher - Bug 919958 - Ionmonkey: Correct instruction numbering in alias analysis. a=lsblakk
  1466. # [17:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b2d2a8890557 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 918612 - Stop masking the underlying Sqlite VFS version in the Telemetry VFS. r=bent, a=lsblakk
  1467. # [17:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/46ff69fc509e - Marty Rosenberg - Bug 879647 - Don't throw process fatal assortions when we're about to abort the compilation. r=jbramley, a=lsblakk
  1468. # [17:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ae7ca0cd3cda - Brian Hackett - Bug 921171 - Check for an uncaught exception when finishing off thread parsing of scripts. r=billm, a=lsblakk
  1469. # [17:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8deaeda0c9b2 - Karl Tomlinson - Bug 914016 - Always dispatch main thread updates after non-realtime graph finishes. r=padenot
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  1489. # [17:44] <froydnj> bz: yeah =/
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  1491. # [17:45] <bz> froydnj: hmm?
  1492. # [17:45] <bz> froydnj: oh, re rebuilds
  1493. # [17:45] <froydnj> bz: nsTSubstring.h rebuilds
  1494. # [17:45] <bz> froydnj: Just commented in that bug, btw, now that my build is done.
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  1496. # [17:45] <froydnj> bz: saw that, good to see that gains didn't totally disappear
  1497. # [17:46] <bz> I can compare to your first patch too; give me a few
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  1500. # [17:47] * bz hopes ccache will save him
  1501. # [17:47] <bz> Yeah
  1502. # [17:47] <bz> it totally is
  1503. # [17:47] <bz> Cache hits all over
  1504. # [17:48] <froydnj> theoretically, you can just revert nsTSubstring.cpp from my current patch and reapply nsTSubstring.cpp from my previous patch
  1505. # [17:48] <froydnj> but ccache works too
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  1508. # [17:50] <bz> yeah
  1509. # [17:51] <bz> lol
  1510. # [17:51] <bz> froydnj: so on https://bug608880.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=487494
  1511. # [17:51] <bz> froydnj: five runs without patches: 986 986 996 999 988
  1512. # [17:51] <bz> froydnj: with your old patch: 709 696 692 715 710
  1513. # [17:52] <bz> froydnj: with your new patch: 641 632 632 632 628
  1514. # [17:52] <froydnj> bz: lower is better, ideally?
  1515. # [17:52] <bz> yes
  1516. # [17:52] <bz> lower is beter
  1517. # [17:52] <froydnj> \o/
  1518. # [17:52] <bz> er, better
  1519. # [17:52] <bz> Those are all times in ms
  1520. # [17:52] <bz> Fwiw, Firefox 25 gives me:
  1521. # [17:53] <bz> 1378 1339 1355 1462 1353
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  1523. # [17:53] <bz> (Probably the autostring change and whatnot helped there)
  1524. # [17:53] <froydnj> o.O
  1525. # [17:53] <bz> As in, the 900-some numbers on m-i have fixes for binding string bits that aren't in 25
  1526. # [17:53] * jedp is now known as jedp|choochoo
  1527. # [17:54] <bz> Chrome is in the 400ms range here, btw
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  1529. # [17:54] <bz> And safari in the 250ms range
  1530. # [17:54] <froydnj> man
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  1532. # [17:54] <froydnj> progress is good, I guess
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  1534. # [17:54] <bz> yeah
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  1536. # [17:54] <bz> I think WebKit stores the original string
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  1538. # [17:54] <bz> instead of serializing the parsed value
  1539. # [17:54] * froydnj goes to push that to try to make sure things still work
  1540. # [17:55] <bz> which is, of course, faster
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  1542. # [17:55] <bz> Pretty sure Safari's bindings are also better than Chrome's in various ways
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  1544. # [17:55] <bz> because jsc is more built around webkit and vice versa than is the case with v8
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  1546. # [17:55] <bz> Anyway
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  1548. # [17:55] <bz> I should reprofile with your change
  1549. # [17:55] <bz> To see what's left there
  1550. # [17:56] <bz> Do you want me to review before your try push or after?
  1551. # [17:56] <froydnj> might as well just do after
  1552. # [17:56] <froydnj> the tests that were failing with ToShortest all pass
  1553. # [17:57] <froydnj> but I don't remember if there was other breakage with ToPrecision that wasn't related to trailing zeros
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  1557. # [17:58] <bz> froydnj: Gotcha
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  1560. # [17:59] * froydnj wishes the line numbers on these valgrind stacks were better
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  1583. # [18:05] <bz> froydnj: fwiw, I'm only measuring mainthread time...
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  1585. # [18:06] <bz> froydnj: in the profile. But 25% of all-threads time is the background finalization thread finalizing all those strings...
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  1595. # [18:08] <froydnj> bz: lovely
  1596. # [18:08] <bz> froydnj: So looking at mainthread time...
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  1599. # [18:08] <bz> About 90% is under GetTop and GetLeft combined, half each
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  1601. # [18:08] <bz> Focuxing on GetTop
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  1604. # [18:10] <bz> 59% is under GetPropertyValue. Of that, some is overhead, 29% is ToPrecision, 6.5% is ReplaceASCII, another 5-6% is self time in FormatWithoutTrailingZeros
  1605. # [18:10] <bz> In particular, 40% of the time is under FormatWithoutTrailingZeros
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  1607. # [18:10] <bz> Another 6% figuring out that we want to be converting a float to a string
  1608. # [18:10] <bz> Another 6% is callstack overhead getting there
  1609. # [18:11] <bz> 36% is the binding code to produce the JSString
  1610. # [18:11] * sheppy is now known as sheppy-offline
  1611. # [18:11] <bz> A bit of call overhead, 25% the JS_malloc
  1612. # [18:11] <bz> And then 3% js_NewString, 3% copying the string data
  1613. # [18:11] * NeilAway idly wonders what bz is changing in nsTSubstring.h
  1614. # [18:11] <bz> Can't share the buffer in this case because we have an autostring
  1615. # [18:12] <bz> NeilAway: I'm not; froydnj is
  1616. # [18:12] * catlee-afk is now known as catlee
  1617. # [18:12] <bz> NeilAway: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=608915
  1618. # [18:13] * bz wishes we could have the best of both worlds there somehow. :(
  1619. # [18:13] <froydnj> hm, FormatWithoutTrailingZeros does a tad too much work removing zeros
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  1621. # [18:13] <froydnj> I'm surprised ReplaceASCII is so high
  1622. # [18:13] <bz> It's called from AppendASCII
  1623. # [18:13] <froydnj> but maybe that's just our string implementation shining through
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  1626. # [18:14] <bz> And over half of it is ReplacePrepInternal
  1627. # [18:14] <bz> Calling MutatPRep, etc
  1628. # [18:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/09725c69fd76 - Stephen Pohl - Bug 860493 - Enable history swipe animations by default on nightly and aurora (implemented in bug 678392). r=smichaud
  1629. # [18:14] <bz> er, MutatePrep
  1630. # [18:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f488602d26c9 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 860493 - Add telemetry for history swipe animations. r=spohl
  1631. # [18:14] <bz> So yeah, our string impl
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  1633. # [18:14] <bz> Which is too complex and too function-cally, hence too slow. :(
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  1635. # [18:15] * bz wonders whether we could somehow template double-conversion to work with PRUnichar* buffers. ;)
  1636. # [18:15] <froydnj> I'm sure we could
  1637. # [18:15] <till> bz: I wonder how GGC changes the JS_malloc part. Should go down quite a bit, I think
  1638. # [18:15] <bz> till: dunno
  1639. # [18:16] <bz> till: lemme see what the caller looks like
  1640. # [18:16] <froydnj> I don't know whether it would provide any speedup
  1641. # [18:16] * bz doesn't see why it would necessarily help
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  1643. # [18:16] <NeilAway> bz: drive-by nit: *ptr = '\0'; is unnecessary as he's specifying the length to AppendASCII
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  1645. # [18:16] <till> JS heap allocations should in general become quite a bit cheaper
  1646. # [18:16] <mccr8> JS_malloc is presumably the payload of the object, rather than the object itself. only the latter will be improved by GGC.
  1647. # [18:17] <bz> till:
  1648. # [18:17] <bz> 87 jschar *chars = reinterpret_cast<jschar *>
  1649. # [18:17] <bz> 88 (JS_malloc(cx, (length + 1) *
  1650. # [18:17] <bz> 89 sizeof(jschar)));
  1651. # [18:17] <bz> And then
  1652. # [18:17] <bz> 102 str = JS_NewUCString(cx, chars, length);
  1653. # [18:17] * sheppy-offline is now known as sheppy
  1654. # [18:17] <bz> wait what?
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  1657. # [18:17] <till> mccr8: right, that's probably true
  1658. # [18:17] <bz> Why is this reinventing JS_NewUCStringCopyN?
  1659. # [18:18] * bz wonders whether that would be faster or slower
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  1661. # [18:18] <mccr8> I wonder how much benefit we'd get from some kind of "string nursery"
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  1666. # [18:19] <NeilAway> bz: so, for a string that you're about to pass into JS, would you be better off using an nsString, so that you get to share the buffer instead?
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  1671. # [18:22] <bz> NeilAway: Yes, but then the malloc overhead as we append shit to it one char at a time kills us
  1672. # [18:22] <bz> NeilAway: I measured both approaches here, and this one was faster. :(
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  1674. # [18:23] <bz> NeilAway: As in, the nsString approach requires one or more mallocs as you put stuff in the string, then some atomic refcounting
  1675. # [18:23] <bz> NeilAway: the nsAutoString approach requires one malloc when creating the JS string
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  1678. # [18:23] <bz> wha
  1679. # [18:23] <bz> whaaat?
  1680. # [18:23] <bz> OH!
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  1682. # [18:23] <bz> froydnj: so I just won us another 100ms on this testcase
  1683. # [18:24] <bz> froydnj: curious, huh? ;)
  1684. # [18:24] <Ms2ger> Hear, hear
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  1687. # [18:24] * bz profiles to see why that happens
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  1692. # [18:24] <froydnj> bz: ooo, do tell
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  1694. # [18:25] <cabanier> RyanVM: can you checkin https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540456?
  1695. # [18:26] <bz> froydnj: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3422115
  1696. # [18:26] <bz> froydnj: I see no malloc
  1697. # [18:26] <bz> froydnj: Maybe these strings are short enough the JS engine is managing to use inline strings for them??
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  1700. # [18:26] <froydnj> bz: what's the inline string limit?
  1701. # [18:26] * bz is looking for that exact information
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  1703. # [18:27] <RyanVM> cabanier: it's got checkin-needed, so yes
  1704. # [18:27] <RyanVM> cabanier: catching up from the weekend...
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  1708. # [18:28] <bz> hrm
  1709. # [18:28] <bz> no, shouldn't be that long....
  1710. # [18:28] <bz> static const size_t NUM_INLINE_CHARS = 2 * sizeof(void *) / sizeof(jschar);
  1711. # [18:28] <bz> For me that's 2 * 8 / 2 == 8
  1712. # [18:28] <bz> huh
  1713. # [18:28] <bz> I wonder what the string length coming through here are
  1714. # [18:28] <bz> And on 32-bit and 64-bit it's different, yay?
  1715. # [18:29] <jcranmer> if it's a float, you should have 6 sig figures + .
  1716. # [18:29] * bz is on 64-bit
  1717. # [18:29] <jcranmer> so 7 characters not including NUL terminator
  1718. # [18:29] <froydnj> for some css properties, I could see the value fitting into 7 characters
  1719. # [18:30] <bz> 65.827px
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  1721. # [18:30] <bz> 252.427px
  1722. # [18:31] <bz> The latter shouldn't fit
  1723. # [18:31] <bz> right?
  1724. # [18:31] <bz> Also, static const size_t MAX_INLINE_LENGTH = NUM_INLINE_CHARS - 1;
  1725. # [18:31] <bz> Oh, wait
  1726. # [18:31] <bz> That's for JSInlineString
  1727. # [18:31] <bz> JSShortString can be bigger
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  1731. # [18:32] <bz> 727 static const size_t MAX_SHORT_LENGTH = JSString::NUM_INLINE_CHARS +
  1732. # [18:32] <bz> 728 INLINE_EXTENSION_CHARS
  1733. # [18:32] <froydnj> neither one should fit if jcranmer is correct about NUL
  1734. # [18:32] <bz> 729 -1 /* null terminator */;
  1735. # [18:32] <bz> static const size_t INLINE_EXTENSION_CHARS = sizeof(JSString::Data) / sizeof(jschar);
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  1740. # [18:33] <bz> So Data has a size_t, then a void*, then then something that has NUM_INLINE_CHARS jschars
  1741. # [18:33] <bz> So it's at least another NUM_INLINE_CHARS
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  1743. # [18:34] <bz> So in practice on 32-bit NUM_INLINE_CHARS is 4
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  1745. # [18:34] <bz> And on 32-bit it's 8
  1746. # [18:34] <bz> So we can use a shortstring on 32-bit for up to 4*2 + 2 + 2 == 12 chars
  1747. # [18:34] <bz> If I count right
  1748. # [18:34] <froydnj> so that would be enough for quite a lot of css property stuff
  1749. # [18:34] <bz> And on 64-bit for up to 8*2 + 4 + 4
  1750. # [18:35] <bz> Which is 24 chars
  1751. # [18:35] <bz> Yeah
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  1753. # [18:35] <bz> So I'm going to file a bug on this
  1754. # [18:35] <@smaug> I thought nsTArray had something like .ClearButDontShrinkTheBuffer() but I can't find such
  1755. # [18:35] <bz> Removing code + speedup == r+, I hope. ;)
  1756. # [18:35] <froydnj> yeah, that got added recently
  1757. # [18:35] <bz> We do get an extra function call
  1758. # [18:35] <bz> But maybe not even that
  1759. # [18:35] <jcranmer> PGO/LTO shjould kill that call?
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  1762. # [18:36] <bz> jcranmer: Maybe
  1763. # [18:36] <@smaug> ah, there it it ClearAndRetainStorage
  1764. # [18:36] <bz> jcranmer: There are two separate libraries involved
  1765. # [18:36] <@smaug> it is
  1766. # [18:36] <jcranmer> bz: didn't we fold js into libxul? or is that something we tried to do but failed to?
  1767. # [18:36] <NeilAway> looks like bz is going to bitrot my context
  1768. # [18:36] * bz thought the latter, but....
  1769. # [18:36] <bz> NeilAway: hmm?
  1770. # [18:37] <bz> froydnj: so a question
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  1773. # [18:37] <froydnj> jcranmer: I think ehsan has green on try, but the patch needs polishing
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  1776. # [18:37] <bz> froydnj: how common is a trailing 0 or '.' for typical values?
  1777. # [18:38] <bz> froydnj: as in, does it make sense to just walk back across all trailing 0 until we get to '.'?
  1778. # [18:38] <bz> froydnj: or run out of string?
  1779. # [18:38] <bz> froydnj: and skip the strchr bit?
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  1781. # [18:39] <froydnj> bz: good question
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  1786. # [18:39] <froydnj> bz: do you mean "walk backward across trailing zeros *and* continue looking for a decimal point"?
  1787. # [18:40] <bz> I mean something like this:
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  1790. # [18:40] <bz> for ( ; ptr != middle; -- ptr) {
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  1792. # [18:40] <bz> if (*ptr != '0') { break; }
  1793. # [18:40] <bz> }
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  1795. # [18:40] <bz> sorry above is ugly
  1796. # [18:41] <bz> And then
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  1799. # [18:41] <bz> if (ptr == '.') --ptr;
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  1802. # [18:41] <bz> else { /* Keep walking looking for a '.' and see if we find it; if not found adjust ptr back to end */ }
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  1804. # [18:42] <bz> And then AppendAscii(formatted_double, ptr-formatted_double) or so
  1805. # [18:42] <bz> hrm
  1806. # [18:42] <bz> I guess we want to do the "keep walking" bit if ptr got moved from the end
  1807. # [18:42] <froydnj> since we're formatting to a specified precision
  1808. # [18:42] <bz> as in, if we actually dound trailing zeros
  1809. # [18:43] <froydnj> we should actually know that if we haven't found a decimal point in the last couple of characters
  1810. # [18:43] <froydnj> that one doesn't exist
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  1813. # [18:43] <froydnj> hm, except for silly exponential representation cases
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  1817. # [18:45] <jcranmer> do we care about extra 0s in those cases?
  1818. # [18:46] <RyanVM> Yoric: bustage
  1819. # [18:46] <Ms2ger> Yes
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  1822. # [18:47] <sfoster> is there a known issue with mach currently, or some steps I need to take? I'm getting No makefile found after a pull today
  1823. # [18:47] <sfoster> (on windows)
  1824. # [18:47] <froydnj> if we have 1.2e+20 or somesuch
  1825. # [18:47] <froydnj> we do care about those zeros
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  1827. # [18:47] <jaws> RyanVM: ping?
  1828. # [18:47] <jcranmer> damn floating point numbers
  1829. # [18:47] <RyanVM> jaws: pong?
  1830. # [18:47] <jcranmer> we should remove them from specs
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  1832. # [18:48] <jaws> RyanVM: what is ba+?
  1833. # [18:48] <RyanVM> jaws: binary approval
  1834. # [18:48] <jaws> RyanVM: how do i request it?
  1835. # [18:48] <froydnj> in this case, it would actually be better if we never produced exponential representation in the first place
  1836. # [18:48] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, is that approval that's either 0 or 1?
  1837. # [18:48] <RyanVM> jaws: ping jorgev
  1838. # [18:48] <froydnj> since CSS, AIUI, says you're not supposed to do that
  1839. # [18:48] <RyanVM> jaws: basically, interface changes need approval to land on beta
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  1841. # [18:49] <RyanVM> jaws: and there's a commit hook that blocks IDL changes from landing without ba+ :)
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  1843. # [18:49] <jaws> ok, i wanted to get it in the first beta but the cards didn't fall that way.
  1844. # [18:49] <jaws> i've requested needinfo from jorgev
  1845. # [18:49] <RyanVM> cool, thanks
  1846. # [18:49] <RyanVM> jaws: in my queue for if/when it does :)
  1847. # [18:50] <jaws> RyanVM: thanks a lot!
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  1850. # [18:50] <RyanVM> np
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  1853. # [18:52] <botond> Waldo: i might be contesting your nickname soon: http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/1764/k245.jpg :)
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  1855. # [18:53] <RyanVM> spohl: actually, that's your bustage on inbound
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  1867. # [18:58] <@bsmedberg> jimb: oh emacs expert help! How do I tell emacs that whenever it sees "Mode: javascript" in a modeline, what I actually wanted was js2-mode?
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  1869. # [18:58] <@bsmedberg> or at least, can I have it ignore the Mode: javascript and fall back on mode by extension?
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  1874. # [18:59] <bkero> a/win 62
  1875. # [18:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7384e5f3eb7a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets f488602d26c9 and 09725c69fd76 (bug 860493) for OSX bustage.
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  1877. # [19:00] <Gijs> bholley: ping
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  1880. # [19:01] <spohl> RyanVM: checking
  1881. # [19:01] <RyanVM> spohl: bit late for that now ^
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  1883. # [19:01] <spohl> RyanVM: sorry
  1884. # [19:01] <spohl> RyanVM: did it get backed out?
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  1886. # [19:01] <RyanVM> spohl: 12:56:33 PM - firebot: Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7384e5f3eb7a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets f488602d26c9 and 09725c69fd76 (bug 860493) for OSX bustage.
  1887. # [19:01] <RyanVM> clang bustage it appears
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  1890. # [19:02] <spohl> RyanVM: thanks!
  1891. # [19:02] <RyanVM> spohl: nope, gcc doesn't like it either
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  1896. # [19:04] <lsblakk> RyanVM: heads up on bug 934514, if possible can we go straight to m-c with it to get build results?
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  1900. # [19:05] <RyanVM> lsblakk: do we need a nightly respin?
  1901. # [19:06] <lsblakk> RyanVM: yes, and when landed - might as well do AUrora too
  1902. # [19:06] <RyanVM> lsblakk: k, then sounds like m-c is the way to go! :) - need me to push or is someone else on it?
  1903. # [19:06] <lsblakk> snorp: ^
  1904. # [19:07] <snorp> RyanVM: I'm on it
  1905. # [19:07] <snorp> taking forever to update my m-c tree :)
  1906. # [19:07] <RyanVM> lsblakk: snorp: We'll ping releng to trigger new Android nightlies instead of a mass retrigger on all platforms
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  1908. # [19:07] <bholley> Gijs: hi
  1909. # [19:07] <bholley> Gijs: I've gotta go in a sec, but can help if it's quick
  1910. # [19:08] <Gijs> bholley: hi! Uhm, more dumb questions... the Parse() stuff expects nsCString. The charset var is nsAString. Do I get to do NS_ConvertUTF16/8toUTF8/16 everywhere?
  1911. # [19:08] <Gijs> bholley: because that is kind of sadfaces
  1912. # [19:08] <Gijs> (and by parse stuff I guess I mean ParseString)
  1913. # [19:08] <bholley> Gijs: you can just add an overload
  1914. # [19:09] <Gijs> bholley: I think your "just" and my "just" are not the same
  1915. # [19:09] <Gijs> bholley: but, OK. :)
  1916. # [19:09] * Gijs will give it a shot
  1917. # [19:10] <bholley> Gijs: basically, just copy-paste OptionsBase::ParseString
  1918. # [19:10] <bholley> Gijs: and modify the last 3 lines at the bottom
  1919. # [19:10] <bholley> Gijs: the XPConnect community thanks you in advance for your decision to give back ;-)
  1920. # [19:11] <Gijs> :(
  1921. # [19:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fadc8a168bbc - James Willcox - Bug 934514 - Don't access non-existant field on Android 4.4 r=blassey
  1922. # [19:11] <Waldo> botond: :-P
  1923. # [19:11] * Gijs wonders what the wide equivalent of JS_EncodeString is
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  1925. # [19:11] <bholley> Gijs: ask waldo
  1926. # [19:11] <Gijs> Waldo: ^^
  1927. # [19:11] <snorp> RyanVM: patch is on m-c now
  1928. # [19:11] <Waldo> Gijs: something in js/public/CharacterEncoding.h?
  1929. # [19:11] * Gijs goes more sad
  1930. # [19:11] <RyanVM> snorp: thx
  1931. # [19:12] <bholley> Waldo: no
  1932. # [19:12] <Gijs> Waldo: uh, really?
  1933. # [19:12] <bholley> Waldo: he needs an API method
  1934. # [19:12] <bholley> Waldo: to extract the characters
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  1936. # [19:12] <bholley> Gijs: probably JS_GetCharsZ or something
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  1941. # [19:13] <cabanier> RyanVM: do you have time to checkin my patch?
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  1943. # [19:13] <RyanVM> cabanier: at some point today, yes...
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  1946. # [19:14] <RyanVM> cabanier: you put c-n on it last night, why is this so urgent?
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  1954. # [19:15] <jimb> bsmedberg: That's an excellent question.
  1955. # [19:15] <jimb> bsmedberg: I think the answer is, you should delete the mode: js2-mode line.
  1956. # [19:16] <@bsmedberg> jimb: hrm... these aren't my sources
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  1958. # [19:16] <jimb> bsmedberg: It's crazy to be hard-coding a specific JS mode in our source files when 1) there's more than one, 2) the choice is controversial, and 3) it's totally easy to select the JS mode from the file extension.
  1959. # [19:16] <jimb> bsmedberg: Which sources?
  1960. # [19:16] <cabanier> RyanVM: I'd like to get it in before TPAC so we can discuss it during a WG meeting
  1961. # [19:16] <RyanVM> cabanier: I have no idea what TPAC is
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  1963. # [19:16] <Ms2ger> Toga Party - Argument Clinic
  1964. # [19:16] <jimb> bsmedberg: (I was going to submit a patch that removes all explicit "mode: javascript" or "mode: js2-mode" lines from our tree...)
  1965. # [19:16] <Ms2ger> A W3C meeting
  1966. # [19:17] <cabanier> RyanVM: :-)
  1967. # [19:17] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: man, I should start getting involved in that
  1968. # [19:17] <jimb> bsmedberg: Anyway, let me see...
  1969. # [19:17] <cabanier> RyanVM: http://www.w3.org/2013/11/TPAC/
  1970. # [19:17] <froydnj> oh man, ToPrecision, why do you screw us over with edge cases?
  1971. # [19:18] <RyanVM> cabanier: so....it's in a week?
  1972. # [19:18] <snorp> lsblakk: do you want to wait on a green m-c build for beta/aurora
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  1974. # [19:18] <Waldo> Gijs: yeah, I don't really know exactly what you want, exactly
  1975. # [19:18] <lsblakk> snorp: yes
  1976. # [19:18] <snorp> lsblakk: ok
  1977. # [19:18] <lsblakk> we've got time, i can send gtb on beta this aft
  1978. # [19:18] <cabanier> RyanVM: pretty much.
  1979. # [19:18] <snorp> cool
  1980. # [19:18] <bz> froydnj: heh
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  1982. # [19:18] <RyanVM> cabanier: assuming it doesn't bounce, I can assure you it'll be in by then
  1983. # [19:18] <cabanier> RyanVM: it's process related :-(
  1984. # [19:18] <froydnj> bz: 1.00000e-19
  1985. # [19:19] <RyanVM> lsblakk: planning another round of approvals today?
  1986. # [19:19] * Waldo notes the encoding methods junk he really doesn't know very much about, because it's so fugly
  1987. # [19:19] <cabanier> RyanVM: ok! thanks
  1988. # [19:19] * RyanVM knows there are some requests waiting
  1989. # [19:19] <lsblakk> RyanVM: i did most of them last night, will make a quick pass after this crashkill meeting
  1990. # [19:19] <Gijs> Waldo: I want an equivalent to OptionsBase::ParseString(const char *name, nsCString &prop) that uses nsString instead of nsCString
  1991. # [19:19] * julienw is now known as julienw_afk
  1992. # [19:19] <RyanVM> lsblakk: thanks
  1993. # [19:19] <Gijs> (I think)
  1994. # [19:19] <froydnj> fortunately, that seems to be the only really screwy case
  1995. # [19:19] <Waldo> Gijs: uh, OptionsBase::ParseString?
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  1997. # [19:20] <Gijs> Waldo: that's in js/xpconnect/src/Sandbox.cpp :)
  1998. # [19:20] <Gijs> Waldo: now, I'm happy to write that function myself
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  2000. # [19:20] <Gijs> but for that, I need to get from a RootedValue which is a JS string to an nsString
  2001. # [19:20] <Gijs> Waldo: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/Sandbox.cpp#1345
  2002. # [19:20] <jcranmer> Gijs: XPCConvert?
  2003. # [19:21] * Gijs has no idea what jcranmer just said
  2004. # [19:21] <Gijs> This is what I get for trying to do a 4-line patch to the subscript loader :(
  2005. # [19:21] <bz> Gijs: See nsDependentJSString and its users
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  2010. # [19:23] <Gijs> bz: thanks
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  2012. # [19:24] <jimb> bsmedberg: (defalias 'js2-mode 'javascript-mode)
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  2014. # [19:24] <jimb> bsmedberg: Seems to work for me.
  2015. # [19:24] <@bsmedberg> jimb: excellent ty!
  2016. # [19:24] <jimb> bsmedberg: That changes *all* references to js2-mode to use js-mode instead...
  2017. # [19:24] <@bsmedberg> jimb: and sure, removing all the mode: javascript from our tree sounds reasonable
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  2020. # [19:25] <jimb> bsmedberg: But, it's such a large and boring editing task; I wonder how I shall ever accomplish it...
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  2022. # [19:25] <jcranmer> you know what would be nice?
  2023. # [19:25] <@bsmedberg> *grin*
  2024. # [19:25] <@bsmedberg> python!
  2025. # [19:25] <jcranmer> a style guide that actually gives all of the mode lines we're supposed to use
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  2027. # [19:25] <jimb> YEAH
  2028. # [19:25] <Gijs> mode lines?
  2029. # [19:25] * Gijs runs away
  2030. # [19:25] <jimb> jcranmer: In this case, I'm just taking stuff out...
  2031. # [19:26] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, the C++ one is in the guide, I think
  2032. # [19:26] <jcranmer> or maybe, just maybe
  2033. # [19:26] <jimb> jcranmer: "none" would be a fine answer
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  2035. # [19:26] <jcranmer> we should stop making the modelines declare language
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  2037. # [19:26] <jcranmer> any IDE that can't figure out the #@!$ing language from the file name needs to be shot
  2038. # [19:26] <jimb> jcranmer: I think that's what I suggested... am I misunderstanding?
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  2040. # [19:26] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, how about for .webidl?
  2041. # [19:27] <spohl> RyanVM: that'll teach me to land other people's code.. :-(
  2042. # [19:27] <jimb> jcranmer: For a while, Emacs didn't have a JavaScript mode. But that's been fixed for a long time.
  2043. # [19:27] <froydnj> jcranmer: is .h c++ or c?
  2044. # [19:27] <spohl> RyanVM: is the tree locked until builds come back green?
  2045. # [19:27] * RyanVM bites his tongue
  2046. # [19:27] <jimb> froydnj: Right, that's the good use case for mode lines.
  2047. # [19:27] <jcranmer> froydnj: make it C++
  2048. # [19:27] <jimb> jcranmer: We have C in tree.
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  2050. # [19:27] <jcranmer> jimb: true, but C++ mode is more or less a superset of C
  2051. # [19:27] <RyanVM> spohl: no, I just got caught up in some other stuff, thanks for the ping
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  2053. # [19:28] <jimb> It doesn't help, of course, that js/src and the rest of the tree have different C++ styles...
  2054. # [19:28] <jimb> or maybe I'm misunderstanding what I see...
  2055. # [19:28] <spohl> RyanVM: cool, thank you.
  2056. # [19:28] <Ms2ger> jimb, yeah...
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  2063. # [19:29] <jimb> please forgive
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  2066. # [19:30] <mrbkap> jimb: how can you be uninterested in a conversation about editors and modelines? </sarcasm>
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  2069. # [19:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ea21428f70c - Stephen Pohl - Bug 860493 - Enable history swipe animations by default on nightly and aurora (implemented in bug 678392). r=smichaud
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  2076. # [19:34] <Waldo> Gijs: so, the JS_EncodeCharacters referred to in the comment, we got rid of and replaced with better-named stuff in js/public/CharacterEncoding.h
  2077. # [19:34] <jorendorff> Is there a way with CSS selectors to select an element only if it contains a child that matches another selector?
  2078. # [19:34] <Waldo> Gijs: so, it seems fairly likely what you want is in there
  2079. # [19:34] <jimb> jorendorff: like >, but reversed?
  2080. # [19:34] <jimb> "reversed"
  2081. # [19:34] <Waldo> Gijs: unless you're specifically talking about the XPCOM glue
  2082. # [19:34] <Ms2ger> jorendorff, no
  2083. # [19:34] <jorendorff> jimb: like > but selecting the parent rather than the child
  2084. # [19:35] <jimb> exactly
  2085. # [19:35] <jimb> boo
  2086. # [19:35] <Ms2ger> jorendorff, because that's Hard(TM)
  2087. # [19:35] <Waldo> Gijs: in which case, um, I am simple JS implementer, your XPCOM ways are foreign to me
  2088. # [19:35] <jimb> Ms2ger: Not any harder than matching an ordinary '>' selector, right?
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  2090. # [19:35] <jimb> If you can generate the series of matches for a '>' selector, then you could have retained the parents and just returned that list instead.
  2091. # [19:35] <jorendorff> jimb: i'm told css selectors are matched in reverse -- the query is like, "ok, here's an element, which rules select it?"
  2092. # [19:36] <Ms2ger> What jorendorff said
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  2094. # [19:36] <jorendorff> jimb: so the execution is back-to-front, and what i'm asking for would basically *have* to execute the other way round
  2095. # [19:36] <jimb> But there's a web function that returns the list of elements matching a selector.
  2096. # [19:36] <Waldo> jimb: matched in reverse when rendering -- you get an element added, you check whether it'll match any selectors -- can't know the contains relationship at that point
  2097. # [19:37] <Waldo> jimb: that function acts given a complete DOM already
  2098. # [19:37] <jorendorff> Waldo: oh, thanks for that
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  2100. # [19:37] <jorendorff> well, i guess my web page will just have to suck for now
  2101. # [19:37] <mrbkap> jorendorff: what are you trying to do?
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  2103. # [19:38] <jimm> BenWa: does that profiler.threads option need to be set in the target browser or in the viewer?
  2104. # [19:38] <Waldo> there might be an argument that a better-designed CSS wouldn't have this problem, somehow, but water under the bridge, and I don't even know if that's the case anyway if you want incremental rendering
  2105. # [19:38] <jorendorff> mrbkap: well, it has to do with https://people.mozilla.org/~jorendorff/js-loaders/loaders.html
  2106. # [19:38] <jimb> jorendorff: Your selector would mean that editing children affects the CSS rules that apply to parents; is there anything else like that?
  2107. # [19:38] <jorendorff> mrbkap: find-in-page Loader.prototype.get
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  2110. # [19:38] <Ms2ger> jimb, nope
  2111. # [19:38] <BenWa> jimm: In the viewier I think. It's really just reflecting the state of the 'Threads' checkbox
  2112. # [19:39] <BenWa> err 'Multi-Thread'
  2113. # [19:39] <jimb> Ms2ger: Okay; so that is a major change to the semantics; I see now.
  2114. # [19:39] <jorendorff> mrbkap: right now I have {clear: both;} on basically every block element in the main flow (the left-hand side) of this layout
  2115. # [19:39] <jimb> Ms2ger: thx
  2116. # [19:39] <jorendorff> mrbkap: including li
  2117. # [19:39] <Ms2ger> jimb, not one that people haven't been asking for for years... :)
  2118. # [19:39] <jorendorff> mrbkap: which causes a gap between step 5 and step 5.a.
  2119. # [19:39] <jorendorff> i wanted to fix it by being more specific with the selector on {clear: both;}
  2120. # [19:40] <mrbkap> hm
  2121. # [19:41] <jorendorff> mrbkap: i think this is the most horrible CSS hack i've ever done, but that statement covers an awful lot of ground
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  2126. # [19:43] <jimm> BenWa: that was it, thanks.
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  2128. # [19:43] <BenWa> jimm: so by default it only profiles the main thread. Users can request to profile all other threads or particular threads.
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  2130. # [19:43] <jimm> good to know.
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  2133. # [19:44] <Gijs> jorendorff: add a class where you want to change it, and use :not(.class) ?
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  2135. # [19:44] <jimm> BenWa: note your checkbox in the button drop down isn't checked even though the pref is set.
  2136. # [19:44] <jimm> minor ux bug there
  2137. # [19:44] <jorendorff> Gijs: yup, that's what i'll eventually do... i'd do it right now but it requires parsing markdown-generated html and walking the tree
  2138. # [19:44] <BenWa> jimm: It may not pick up if you flip it via a perf. Is that the problem?
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  2141. # [19:45] <jimm> I can't seem to check it in the drop down either. it's disabled.
  2142. # [19:45] <jaws> RyanVM: jorgev commented in the bug. is there a more formal ba+ that is needed?
  2143. # [19:45] <RyanVM> if he's happy, I'm happy
  2144. # [19:45] <jimm> even if I switch to local and hit stop first
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  2149. # [19:47] <RyanVM> jaws: i'm planning another push to beta in a bit, will include it then :)
  2150. # [19:47] <jaws> cool, thank you again
  2151. # [19:47] <RyanVM> jaws: btw, I don't want to talk about Saturday
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  2153. # [19:48] <jaws> haha, i'm all ears for whenever you can come to terms with it :)
  2154. # [19:48] <RyanVM> jaws: that was embarrassing
  2155. # [19:48] * Ms2ger isn't quite sure he wants to hear what jaws and RyanVM did on Saturday
  2156. # [19:49] <jaws> Ms2ger: http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=333060127
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  2159. # [19:49] <@roc> it sure is quiet in the SF office today
  2160. # [19:50] <Ms2ger> roc, you sure don't seem to be seeing a lot of NZ lately
  2161. # [19:50] * Waldo saw enough commentary on Facebook about that to not have any reason to go after the details, himself
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  2163. # [19:50] <Waldo> roc: how long in SF and/or where else?
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  2166. # [19:51] <RyanVM> Waldo: good decision
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  2168. # [19:51] <RyanVM> Waldo: I'm can only shudder to think what'll happen vs. OSU
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  2170. # [19:52] <froydnj> RyanVM: whoa, whoa, you expected UM to win games? :p
  2171. # [19:52] <RyanVM> froydnj: every now and then
  2172. # [19:52] <Waldo> also on that front, sort of, I'd have said the refs got both reviewed calls wrong in the game last night
  2173. # [19:52] <RyanVM> at least I've still got the Wings
  2174. # [19:52] <jaws> froydnj++
  2175. # [19:53] <froydnj> Wings++
  2176. # [19:53] <Waldo> indeed
  2177. # [19:53] <Ms2ger> Silly sports--
  2178. # [19:53] <RyanVM> \m/
  2179. # [19:53] * Waldo went to a Halloween party at a Sharks fan's house wearing his Osgood jersey
  2180. # [19:53] <froydnj> hm, objdump -dS libxul.so is still running
  2181. # [19:53] <Waldo> always great to get booed as I enter :-)
  2182. # [19:53] <RyanVM> Waldo: heh, nice
  2183. # [19:54] <Waldo> Ms2ger: I agree, silly sports are dumb, but we're not talking about silly sports!
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  2185. # [19:54] <RyanVM> snorp: lsblakk: new Android nightlies are going on m-c tip
  2186. # [19:54] * Ms2ger sniggers
  2187. # [19:54] <Waldo> now, if you want a silly sport, cricket bugs me
  2188. # [19:54] <snorp> RyanVM: woo
  2189. # [19:55] <philor> Waldo: not as bad as fencing, with all the restrictions
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  2191. # [19:55] * Waldo means to actually learn about cricket at some point, hasn't gotten to it yet
  2192. # [19:56] <Ms2ger> Waldo, I quite enjoy cricket commentary, though I don't care for the sport
  2193. # [19:56] <Waldo> did see a recap/replay of a game once, could *almost* make out what was happening from baseball similarity, but still was basically lost
  2194. # [19:57] <RyanVM> peterv: looks like you've got orange on inbound
  2195. # [19:57] <Waldo> also, you have to love tennis, particularly when one person doesn't score
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  2197. # [19:58] <Waldo> but if we're talking good sports, soccer (football) is definitely a keeper
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  2210. # [20:03] <ckerschb> bbondy: ping
  2211. # [20:03] <bbondy> ckerschb: hi
  2212. # [20:03] <ckerschb> bbondy: whenever you have time, right now would also work for me
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  2216. # [20:04] <bbondy> there's the monday company meeting right now but if you want I can watch it later
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  2220. # [20:05] <bbondy> ya that's fine, join my vidyo room
  2221. # [20:05] <bbondy> I'll be there in 2 min
  2222. # [20:05] <ckerschb> ok
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  2236. # [20:08] <Waldo> heh, gee eye jay ess
  2237. # [20:08] <Waldo> (so saith potch just now)
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  2239. # [20:09] <RyanVM> Waldo: I liked that and how he said mccr8
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  2241. # [20:09] <Waldo> hm, I missed that one :-)
  2242. # [20:09] <Ms2ger> em see see r eight?
  2243. # [20:09] <RyanVM> spelled that one out too
  2244. # [20:09] <mccr8> oh did I miss my moment of fame
  2245. # [20:09] <Ms2ger> When is my turn?
  2246. # [20:09] <RyanVM> mccr8: I guess you don' tget the ping when he spells your name out loud :P
  2247. # [20:09] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: fix some leaks first
  2248. # [20:10] <Waldo> em ess toojer
  2249. # [20:10] <Ms2ger> Meh
  2250. # [20:10] <Waldo> ^ canonical pronunciation according to me
  2251. # [20:10] <hub> glob: I was told you are the man. There is more "trolling" happening in BZ
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  2254. # [20:10] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, I gave those guys the tests to be heroes about...
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  2256. # [20:10] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: how altruistic of you
  2257. # [20:10] <glob> hub, RoninStarfighter has already been shot down
  2258. # [20:10] <mccr8> Ms2ger is the darth vader to our luke skywalker
  2259. # [20:10] <hub> glob: ok.
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  2261. # [20:11] <hub> glob: that was 8 minutes ago
  2262. # [20:11] <Ms2ger> mccr8, I deny being your father
  2263. # [20:11] <mccr8> that would be chronologically inconsistent
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  2266. # [20:11] <Ms2ger> mccr8, could always happen in some of the later movies, then...
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  2282. # [20:18] <jcranmer> how I hate those
  2283. # [20:19] <jcranmer> I've never been a fan of lambda calculus
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  2289. # [20:20] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, this isn't actually lambda calculus
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  2291. # [20:21] <jcranmer> same general ideas
  2292. # [20:21] <Ms2ger> Yeah, it's all the same thing, really
  2293. # [20:21] <Ms2ger> [Church-Turing]
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  2295. # [20:22] <jcranmer> what I meant is that it's a mathematical formalism derived from the notions of lambda calculus as opposed to turing machines
  2296. # [20:22] <Ms2ger> Sure
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  2298. # [20:23] <Ms2ger> Anyway
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  2328. # [20:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c42c1d8bd703 - Karl Tomlinson - Bug 933156 - Don't send null input to EqualPowerPanningFunction. r=roc
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  2331. # [20:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e6063aa9b77 - James Kitchener - Bug 328755 - Assigning a zero-length string should not alloc a buffer. r=bsmedberg
  2332. # [20:35] <RyanVM> whoops, did NOT mean to push all of those
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  2365. # [20:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ccca624372a - Dan Gohman - Bug 934520 - SpiderMonkey: Avoid signed overflow and other forms of undefined behavior. r=bhackett
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  2372. # [20:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f690dfdfafdd - Jaroslav Kopecký - Bug 933672 - Make sure in-tree libevent isn't built --with-system-libevent. r=glandium
  2373. # [20:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/10cf6a630944 - Rik Cabanier - Bug 540456 - Support HTML5 canvas draw{Custom,System}FocusRing(). r=smaug
  2374. # [20:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ea700f048c4 - Andreas Gal - Bug 934297 - Remove snapping support from Moz2D. r=mattwoodrow
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  2387. # [21:02] <RyanVM> snorp: I think your m-c push is sufficiently green for uplift, adding it to my queue (CC lsblakk to that :P )
  2388. # [21:02] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM: I'll push the CtP patches to aurora/beta: I probably need to rebase the test changes from tests/general to tests
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  2390. # [21:03] <snorp> RyanVM: you're the best
  2391. # [21:03] <RyanVM> bsmedberg: wfm
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  2396. # [21:04] <lsblakk> RyanVM: done - just waiting for results on bug 934514
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  2399. # [21:05] <RyanVM> lsblakk: looking pretty green tome
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  2431. # [21:11] <hub> glob|away: looks like there is another instance of the troll
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  2444. # [21:24] <tbsaunde> I swear every time I try and do real work with hg I end up regreting it
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  2447. # [21:25] <bz> crap
  2448. # [21:25] <bz> session restore just totally failed to restore half my tabs. :(
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  2452. # [21:26] <nalexander> tbsaunde: I feel you.
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  2455. # [21:27] <bz> and of course it corrupted _all_ the sessionstore files in sight. :(
  2456. # [21:27] <RyanVM> lsblakk: ready to push as soon as bug 934514 has approval - the push on m-c looks good to me
  2457. # [21:28] <RyanVM> bz: yeah, big PITA
  2458. # [21:28] * bz sighs
  2459. # [21:28] <bz> well, there goes my next two workdays. :(
  2460. # [21:29] <bz> So I have one sessionstore file that's reasonably big...
  2461. # [21:29] <bz> about 2x the size of the others
  2462. # [21:29] <bz> I wonder whether the bug is in the file or in the nightly...
  2463. # [21:29] <RyanVM> bz: it's supposedly fixed on trunk now
  2464. # [21:29] <bz> oh?
  2465. # [21:29] <bz> When did it get broken?
  2466. # [21:29] <RyanVM> not that it's any consolation at this point
  2467. # [21:29] <RyanVM> few days ago
  2468. # [21:29] <bz> $#%$^$%^%$^
  2469. # [21:29] <RyanVM> bug 933587 and dupes
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  2471. # [21:29] <bz> so by fixed on trunk
  2472. # [21:29] <bz> do you mean in today's nightly?
  2473. # [21:29] <RyanVM> yes
  2474. # [21:29] <bz> And is it a bug when writing or reading
  2475. # [21:29] <bz> ?
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  2477. # [21:30] * bz opens Chrome to find these things out
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  2479. # [21:30] <RyanVM> bz: all I know is the bug #, sorry :(
  2480. # [21:30] <dholbert> bz, looks like it was merged to m-c at ~5am PST this morning
  2481. # [21:30] * bz should just stop using nightlies
  2482. # [21:30] <dholbert> so, probably not fixed yet in nightly
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  2484. # [21:31] <RyanVM> really makes me wonder about the gaps in our test suite that this apparently went unnoticed in automation
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  2497. # [21:34] <nthomas> dholbert: we had nightlies on m-c b4143e04bea1, which is the merge from inbound containing 1c7eeacda033 (bug 933587)
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  2501. # [21:35] <bz> crap
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  2504. # [21:36] <bz> fuck
  2505. # [21:36] <dholbert> nthomas, ah, ok. I guess we spawn nightlies later than we used to; I used to have ~4am pacific time as a cutoff in my mind
  2506. # [21:36] <bz> it did in fact corrupt what was on disk
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  2508. # [21:37] <@gavin> the bug is in restoring, shouldn't affect the session store file
  2509. # [21:37] <bz> both the .js and the .bak
  2510. # [21:37] <bz> Why the hell do we have a .bak if we plan to corrupt it? :(
  2511. # [21:37] <nthomas> dholbert: probably someone forced some extra nightlies
  2512. # [21:37] <@gavin> "corrupt" how?
  2513. # [21:37] <bz> In that if I use a build from before the bug was introduced
  2514. # [21:37] <bz> and start it
  2515. # [21:37] <bz> then I get all the about:blank tabs
  2516. # [21:37] <bz> where there should be stuff
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  2518. # [21:38] <bz> So I have 4 sessionstore* files in my profie
  2519. # [21:38] <bz> er, had
  2520. # [21:38] <bz> when I started and it failed to restore
  2521. # [21:38] <bz> sessionstore-1.js
  2522. # [21:38] <bz> sessionstore.bak
  2523. # [21:39] <bz> sessionstore.bak-20131104044747
  2524. # [21:39] <bz> sessionstore.js
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  2527. # [21:39] <bz> the two .bak files have identical file sizes
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  2529. # [21:39] <bz> (but different content?)
  2530. # [21:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0777f32920b9 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 934445 - Fix Windows linking error in Release mode only when MOZ_CONTENT_SANDBOX is defined. r=aklotz
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  2532. # [21:40] <bz> The sessonstore-1.js is about 2x the size and has stuff I closed about a month ago
  2533. # [21:40] <bz> showing as open if I try to restart from it
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  2536. # [21:41] <bz> It is possible that I'm running into a different problem
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  2540. # [21:41] <bz> But the symptoms sure match 933587
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  2546. # [21:42] <bz> or at least the ones from comment 2 there
  2547. # [21:42] <bz> gavin: is that the same issue or a different one?
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  2555. # [21:45] <@gavin> bz: I don't know
  2556. # [21:46] <@gavin> bz: you should talk to billm or ttaubert or smacleod
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  2558. # [21:46] <bz> ok
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  2560. # [21:46] <bz> But as far as I can tell, it restored incorrectly and then clobbered all the files
  2561. # [21:46] <bz> in that they _all_ have the asme timestamp
  2562. # [21:46] <billm> bz: what's the problem?
  2563. # [21:47] <bz> billm: I restarted my browser and a bunch of my tabs came up about:blank instead of the right thing
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  2566. # [21:47] <bz> billm: Would that be caused by bug 933587?
  2567. # [21:47] <philor> RyanVM: I'm unhiding ASan browser-chrome, which fx-team busted on top of the bustage on top of the bustage earlier today
  2568. # [21:47] <bz> billm: or am I seeing a different issue?
  2569. # [21:48] <RyanVM> philor: sweeeet
  2570. # [21:48] <billm> bz: yeah, that's bug 933587. sorry about that.
  2571. # [21:48] <bz> ok
  2572. # [21:48] <bz> Is it expected that this also clobbered the on-disk sessionstore data with about:blank bits?
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  2575. # [21:49] <billm> bz: yeah, it can affect collection, so the data written out will be wrong
  2576. # [21:49] * bz cries
  2577. # [21:49] <@roc> that's funny. I feel the same way about git
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  2580. # [21:49] <@roc> oops
  2581. # [21:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b0025760b098 - James Willcox - Bug 934514 - Don't access non-existant field on Android 4.4 r=blassey a=lsblakk
  2582. # [21:49] <RyanVM> philor: so how does *disabling* part of a test cause it to run longer on ASAN builds?
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  2584. # [21:50] * bz starts putting together a list of all urls he visited in the last month, so he can figure out which of those he still wants...
  2585. # [21:50] <bz> Plus the sessionstore from a month ago. :(
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  2587. # [21:51] <Jesse> maybe sessionrestore should notice that it's throwing exceptions and stop making things worse?
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  2589. # [21:51] <bz> Maybe sessionstore should stop clobbering .bak files?
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  2591. # [21:51] <billm> Jesse: it sort of does. that's why some of the tabs get restored.
  2592. # [21:52] <Jesse> bz: do you have time machine backups?
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  2594. # [21:52] <bz> I mean, I started, I saw that the session restored incorrectly, I force-quire Firefox
  2595. # [21:52] <billm> bz: yeah, I don't know why that's busted
  2596. # [21:52] <bz> Jesse: no
  2597. # [21:52] <bz> er, force-quit
  2598. # [21:52] <bz> At that point all the files were already corrupted
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  2602. # [21:52] <philor> RyanVM: according to the bug, something about it having been split up before
  2603. # [21:52] <bz> Jesse: esp not for the last few weeks, since I was mostly not home
  2604. # [21:53] <bz> Jesse: I do have older stuff than that, but I have a sessionstore from back then too
  2605. # [21:53] <billm> I think the .bak file might get overwritten the moment you restore, which seems silly.
  2606. # [21:53] <philor> RyanVM: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=906839#c43
  2607. # [21:53] <bz> ok
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  2610. # [21:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0d986a533e1c - Brian Grinstead - Bug 932880 - Fix leaks in the devtools mochitest-bc testsuite (rollup patch). a=lsblakk
  2611. # [21:53] <bz> %$^%$^%$&%^&^%
  2612. # [21:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/31f9299a4db2 - Dave Camp - Bug 897194 - Use outer window ID to match toolbox to tab rather than assuming the currently-selected tab. r=bgrins, a=lsblakk
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  2614. # [21:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/1f661a4ca15c - Brian Smith - Bug 754356 - Remove TLS intolerance timeout logic. r=honzab, a=lsblakk
  2615. # [21:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2e7ce68c821f - Jared Wein - Bug 931891 - Backout bug 887515 and its followups from Firefox 26. r=ttaubert, a=lsblakk, ba=jorgev
  2616. # [21:54] * bz really needs to find a sane way to not have this keep happening. :(
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  2618. # [21:54] <bz> The problem is that sessionstore will silently corrupt shit like this
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  2621. # [21:54] <bz> So there is no way to know when's a safe time to back up the file. :(
  2622. # [21:54] <ttaubert> bz: there should be a file around from before the last upgrade? are you using nightly?
  2623. # [21:54] <bz> ttaubert: I am
  2624. # [21:55] <bz> ttaubert: so here's what happened
  2625. # [21:55] <sfink> I keep intending to set up a daily git push of my sessionstore. Still haven't done it. And I just lost a session with a few hundred tabs, too.
  2626. # [21:55] <bz> 1) I accidentally hit Cmd-Q instead of Cmd-W
  2627. # [21:55] <bz> 2) I restarted the browser
  2628. # [21:55] <bz> 3) Saw that it didn't restore properly
  2629. # [21:55] <bz> 4) Force-quit
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  2631. # [21:55] <bz> 5) cp ~/Library/Application\ Support/Firefox/Profiles/the-right-profile/sessionstore* /tmp
  2632. # [21:55] <ttaubert> sfink: yeah... we've come a long way and I think are quite stable now. but on nightly there's a chance we don't catch something early enough :(
  2633. # [21:56] <bz> So I have the state of the files at that point
  2634. # [21:56] <ttaubert> bz: hm wait
  2635. # [21:56] * bz waits
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  2637. # [21:56] <ttaubert> need to check something
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  2639. # [21:56] <ttaubert> :)
  2640. # [21:56] <bz> ok
  2641. # [21:56] <RyanVM> philor: oh ffs
  2642. # [21:56] <RyanVM> smh
  2643. # [21:56] <ttaubert> bz: is there no sessionstore.bak-2013.....js ?
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  2645. # [21:57] <RyanVM> philor: backing it out
  2646. # [21:57] <bz> there is
  2647. # [21:57] <ttaubert> bz: that should've been created on upgrading
  2648. # [21:57] <ttaubert> like, when starting up after an upgrade has been applied
  2649. # [21:57] <bz> sessionstore.bak-20131029030201
  2650. # [21:57] <bz> hmm
  2651. # [21:57] * bz tries that
  2652. # [21:57] <philor> RyanVM: thanks, I'll file the other one, that's going to be so frequent an intermittent that we'll be disabling that test on ASan by the end of the week
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  2654. # [21:58] <ttaubert> bz: that's been our attempt to somewhat mitigate mistakes like that on nightly
  2655. # [21:58] <bz> er, no
  2656. # [21:58] <bz> that's not it
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  2659. # [21:58] <bz> there was a sessionstore.bak-20131104044747
  2660. # [21:59] <bz> It's corrupt
  2661. # [21:59] <bz> because I was presumably upgrading from an already-buggy build?
  2662. # [21:59] <ttaubert> possibly :|
  2663. # [22:00] <bz> Because the bug is in the data collection code, not the restoration code?
  2664. # [22:00] <bz> (Since that build had in fact restored fine when I started it)
  2665. # [22:00] <ttaubert> yeah, that makes sense
  2666. # [22:00] <RyanVM> philor: the other one may be fixed
  2667. # [22:00] <bz> ok, so back to looking through my last month of history
  2668. # [22:00] <ttaubert> the bug is about the collection
  2669. # [22:00] <billm> bz: yeah, the only hope would be to find a file that was saved from a non-buggy build
  2670. # [22:00] <RyanVM> philor: assuming it was peterv's
  2671. # [22:00] <bz> well, it makes "sense"
  2672. # [22:00] <bz> billm: There certainly isn't one, since we carefully clobbered them all
  2673. # [22:00] <ttaubert> bz: sorry for getting your hopes up
  2674. # [22:00] * bz drops everything else he had planned for the next two days
  2675. # [22:00] <peterv> RyanVM: ?
  2676. # [22:01] <RyanVM> peterv: possible ASAN mochitest-bc timeouts
  2677. # [22:01] <RyanVM> i'm retriggering more runs on the backout push
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  2679. # [22:01] <peterv> RyanVM: with the remaining patch?
  2680. # [22:01] <RyanVM> peterv: no
  2681. # [22:01] <RyanVM> the original ones
  2682. # [22:01] <peterv> ah
  2683. # [22:01] <ttaubert> bz: quick idea - we could introduce a pref that lets you define the numbers of upgrade backups to keep? I guess that would help most people on nightly a lot
  2684. # [22:02] <bz> Or more
  2685. # [22:02] <bz> crap
  2686. # [22:02] <peterv> RyanVM: btw, the test that was timing out is just timing out because it's doing too much now
  2687. # [22:02] <RyanVM> peterv: fwiw, there was a green linux32 mochitest-bc before the backout, so it's possible it was a "frequent but not perma" fail
  2688. # [22:02] <bz> ttaubert: yes, it sure would
  2689. # [22:02] <bz> ttaubert: not that it helps me right now...
  2690. # [22:02] <peterv> RyanVM: so the solution is either longer timeout or splitting it up somehow
  2691. # [22:02] <ttaubert> bz: I know sorry :( but I'll get that bug on file
  2692. # [22:02] <bz> So here is a better question
  2693. # [22:02] <bz> Can I merge two sessionstore files together?
  2694. # [22:03] <bz> If I can merge the known good one from a month ago and the broken one...
  2695. # [22:03] <bz> and then manually restore anything that I visited in the last month
  2696. # [22:03] <ttaubert> the format isn't that hard, yeah
  2697. # [22:03] <bz> (since of course we don't mark stuff we're restoring as visited, so the visited stuff doesn't include everything I want to restore)
  2698. # [22:03] <bz> ttaubert: I was hoping for a somewhat turnkey solution
  2699. # [22:04] <bz> I guess I can do this sorta by hand with two Firefox instances, maybe
  2700. # [22:04] * bz tries
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  2702. # [22:04] <ttaubert> bz: sorry there's no such thing yet
  2703. # [22:04] * bz really wishes there were good ways to back up sessionstorey. :(
  2704. # [22:04] <bz> er, sessionstore
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  2706. # [22:05] * KWierso votes for sessionstore.bak.bak.bak
  2707. # [22:05] * jhammel prefers sessionstory ;)
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  2712. # [22:07] <bz> I guess if I do that with the browser not running....
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  2719. # [22:08] <bz> mmm
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  2721. # [22:08] <bz> 5000 history items to go through....
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  2724. # [22:09] <bz> Can I somehow copy/paste all those urls outside Firefox?
  2725. # [22:09] * bz hopes the answer is "yes"
  2726. # [22:09] <Ms2ger> Write an add-on
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  2729. # [22:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e77d96c4bfee - Dan Glastonbury - Bug 843668 - Implement WebGL -draft- extension EXT_sRGB. r=jgilbert
  2730. # [22:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31e1a183f9c1 - Sankha Narayan Guria - Bug 894658 - Implement ES6 Array.prototype.{keys,entries}. r=jorendorff
  2731. # [22:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f259397bfb9 - Sebastian Hengst - Bug 765285 - Include last 3 days of crash IDs in about:support: Improve localization comments. r=Mossop
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  2733. # [22:10] <billm> bz: you could open the places database in sqlite maybe
  2734. # [22:10] <bz> aha
  2735. # [22:10] <bz> I can copy from history and paste into bookmarks
  2736. # [22:10] * bz tries that
  2737. # [22:11] <bz> mmmm, unresponsive script
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  2741. # [22:11] * bz continues a few times, gets a list of stuff
  2742. # [22:11] <@gavin> smacleod, mconley: if someone (say reed) found security issues with reviewboard code, where should they report them?
  2743. # [22:11] <sfink> bz: if you open it in http://people.mozilla.org/~sfink/uploads/json and do cat /windows/*/tabs/*/entries/0/url you'll get more or less a list of urls. But you might have to install something first.
  2744. # [22:12] <@gavin> (or look to see whether they're known)
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  2752. # [22:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b9765059205 - Landry Breuil - Bug 932991: Partly revert bug 898274 on jscpucfg.h, breaks OpenBSD/sparc64 (at least) where <machine/endian.h> must be included after <sys/types.h>. r=njn
  2753. # [22:13] <bz> sfink: "it"? You mean places.sqlite?
  2754. # [22:13] <sfink> bz: sorry, sessionstore.js
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  2767. # [22:14] <bz> sfink: it's corrupt
  2768. # [22:15] <bz> sfink: So there's no point doing that with it
  2769. # [22:15] <bz> sfink: What I wanted was a way to extract the list of URLs I've visited in the last month or so
  2770. # [22:15] <jld> lazyweb, does SpecialPowers.MockFilePicker really need to touch the actual filesystem?
  2771. # [22:15] * bz has that now
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  2773. # [22:15] <sfink> bz: I meant the old one. But I guess it'd be better to merge the other way.
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  2776. # [22:15] <@gavin> jld: ?
  2777. # [22:15] <@gavin> what do you mean by "touch the actual filesystem"?
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  2780. # [22:16] <bz> sfink: It's not clear which way to merge the two yet
  2781. # [22:16] <mconley> gavin: hey - security@reviewboard.org
  2782. # [22:16] <bz> sfink: there's a lot of garbage I no longer need in the old one....
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  2784. # [22:17] <jld> gavin: Sandboxing. It runs in the content process, and it seems to want to create a file.
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  2787. # [22:17] <@gavin> jld: if you're asking "can we give MockFilePicker an optional mode that doesn't touch the filesystem", that would be fine
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  2793. # [22:17] <@gavin> depends on the user of MockFilePicker whether that would work, of course
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  2798. # [22:19] <philor> RyanVM: nah, the other one looked like it showed up sometime while it was first hidden, before the OOM tree closure, though it was hard to tell since OOM was eating its liver
  2799. # [22:20] <RyanVM> philor: ah, ok
  2800. # [22:20] <sfink> bz: alternatively, I just implemented 'import' and 'export' commands in the above json script, which should be enough to let you export all of your tabs from one sessionstore.js and import them into another. (Totally untested, of course.)
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  2803. # [22:20] <bz> sfink: thanks. ;)
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  2823. # [22:23] <smacleod> gavin: Review Board security vulnerabilities should be reported to security@reviewboard.org
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  2826. # [22:24] <@gavin> smacleod, mconley: these aren't so much "vulnerabilities" as much as security-related bugs/enhancement requests
  2827. # [22:24] <@gavin> is there a bug tracker?
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  2830. # [22:24] <mconley> gavin: non-sensitive bugs should be filed here: http://code.google.com/p/reviewboard/issues/list
  2831. # [22:24] <mconley> gavin: all security vulnerabilities go to that mailing list
  2832. # [22:25] <@gavin> reed: ^
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  2879. # [22:33] <mcomella> Is there a good way of finding out where an idl is implemented? I'm trying to find the implementation of https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/base/nsIWebNavigation.idl
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  2886. # [22:34] <fitzgen> gps: (fyi, I just r?'d you for build system changes here: bug 930141)
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  2889. # [22:35] <bkelly> is it possible to create an iframe via javascript in a way such that it won't get a document initially set with about:blank? can I initialize it to a different URI somehow?
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  2894. # [22:36] <\n> who's a good person to speak to about nsIFiles and nsIZipReaders
  2895. # [22:36] <\n> ?
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  2899. # [22:38] <mcomella> nvm ^
  2900. # [22:38] <mcomella> Got it in #mobile
  2901. # [22:39] <mhenretty> mcomella: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/modules/RemoteWebNavigation.jsm ?
  2902. # [22:39] <mhenretty> was that it?
  2903. # [22:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48577a74a5a1 - Jim Blandy - Bug 892643: Implement PersistentRooted<T>, an unrestricted-lifetime rooting type. r=terrence, jcoppeard
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  2905. # [22:40] <mcomella> mhenretty: Now I'm doubly confused, I was passed https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/base/nsDocShell.cpp#4009
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  2907. # [22:40] <mcomella> Specifically I'm looking for the implementation of goBack
  2908. # [22:41] <mcomella> From the idl
  2909. # [22:41] <mcomella> mhenretty: ^
  2910. # [22:41] <@bz> http://static.rust-lang.org/doc/tutorial.html is an exciting read
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  2913. # [22:42] <\n> lol
  2914. # [22:42] <\n> http://static.rust-lang.org/doc/0.8/tutorial.html
  2915. # [22:43] <\n> http://static.rust-lang.org/doc/master/tutorial.html
  2916. # [22:43] <\n> bz: ^
  2917. # [22:43] <mcomella> mhenretty: I think that's correct, it sends WebNavigation:GoBack, which points to https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/content/browser-child.js#125
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  2919. # [22:44] <mcomella> mhenretty: Which calls docShell.QueryInterface(Ci.nsIWebNavigation).goBack, which appears to be from the docShell.cpp file
  2920. # [22:44] <mhenretty> mcomella: ah nice. so its both haha
  2921. # [22:44] <ttaubert> where in the code would I put an extended version of printf()? do we have generic logging utils somewhere? generic utils?
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  2923. # [22:45] <mcomella> mhenretty: So how did you come up with RemoteWebNavigation.jsm? Just from knowing where it is or is there a methodical way of checking?
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  2926. # [22:45] <@bz> \n: Thanks
  2927. # [22:45] <mhenretty> mcomella: i did a find file for '*WebNavigation*' lol
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  2929. # [22:46] <mcomella> mhenretty: :) I tried "nsIWebNav*" :P
  2930. # [22:46] <mcomella> Thanks
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  2932. # [22:46] <mcomella> Oi, there's layer after layer of `goBack()` calls. :\
  2933. # [22:46] <mhenretty> mcomella: yeah, javascript implemented modules screws up naming stuff sometimes. I'm glad you found it!
  2934. # [22:46] <@bz> Also, deleting bookmarks is ... super-slow
  2935. # [22:47] <@bz> deleting about 150 took 20 seconds
  2936. # [22:47] * @bz starts a delete of 1400 to see how long that takes
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  2939. # [22:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bad6c063b01f - David Zbarsky - Bug 932274: Use Moz2D size classes in ipdl r=nical
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  2941. # [22:47] <mcomella> And now it's pointing back to nsIWebNav. So confused...
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  2945. # [22:48] <Waldo> bz: try deleting messages over IMAP in Thunderbird sometime
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  2948. # [22:49] <\n> might anyone know why an nsIZipReader's open method would throw an NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND if the nsIFile passed to it had a valid path, and the file did exist?
  2949. # [22:50] <mrbkap> \n: permissions?
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  2953. # [22:51] <@smaug> Waldo: that is not so bad
  2954. # [22:51] <\n> mrbkap: I'm using a nsIWebBrowserPersist to download the file, and in the onProgress listener trying to unzip it when it's fully downloaded
  2955. # [22:51] <@smaug> or perhaps it depends on the network connection
  2956. # [22:51] <\n> maybe I can set the permissions of the nsIFile?
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  2962. # [22:52] <Waldo> smaug: it kind of makes me pretty/very sad that Thunderbird doesn't have a separate thread to which all message actions can be batched, with the UI updating instantaneously; it's pretty poor that moving messages from one IMAP server to another basically makes the entire displayed folder view unusable to read other messages
  2963. # [22:52] <\n> not sure if I should try to check isFile or isReadable
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  2966. # [22:52] <jcranmer> mcomella: the correct implementation you're looking for is probably nsSHistory::GoBack
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  2970. # [22:54] <mrbkap> \n: can you check manually to see if the file is being downloaded with the right permissions?
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  2975. # [22:56] <mcomella> jcranmer: That looks about right, but how did you figure out it was the implementation for nsIWebNavigation.idl?
  2976. # [22:56] <mcomella> So I don't need to ask you again later. :P
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  2978. # [22:56] <jcranmer> mcomella: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?tree=mozilla-central&;q=regexp%3A%2F\b[Gg]oBack%2F&redirect=true
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  2983. # [22:57] <jcranmer> regexp:/::GoBack/ would have gotten me there faster if I remembered it was in C++
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  2985. # [22:57] <\n> mrbkap: it's being downloaded with 644, might it need different permissions to unzip?
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  2988. # [22:57] <mcomella> jcranmer: So why not nsDocShell.cpp?
  2989. # [22:58] <jcranmer> mcomella: it's a matter of looking at implementations and working out who could be delegating to whom
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  2993. # [22:59] <mcomella> jcranmer: So there's no, "I'm implementing the methods from file X!" indication?
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  3001. # [23:00] <jcranmer> mcomella: the issue is that there are multiple implementations of nsIWebNavigation
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  3006. # [23:01] <mcomella> jcranmer: Is there something that indicates that a file is an implementation, beyond having the method defined (since other files can also implement functions of the same name)?
  3007. # [23:01] <@bz> GAh
  3008. # [23:01] * @bz hates Firefox sometimes
  3009. # [23:02] <jcranmer> mcomella: looking for "public nsIWebNavigation" can tell you C++ implementations
  3010. # [23:02] * @bz turns off updates until this bug is fixed
  3011. # [23:02] <jcranmer> for JS implementations, there is no easy way
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  3013. # [23:03] <@gavin> bz: which bug/
  3014. # [23:03] <@smaug> bz: so how did this sessionstore bug happen?
  3015. # [23:03] <@bz> gavin: the sessionstore thing
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  3017. # [23:03] <@smaug> I think I updated very recently
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  3019. # [23:03] <@smaug> and I wonder if I should backup sessionstore files
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  3024. # [23:03] <@bz> smaug: you needed to back them up before you updated to a buggy build
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  3026. # [23:04] <@bz> smaug: though if you haven't updated _again_ since you should back up your sessionstore.bak-datefromwhenyouupdated file
  3027. # [23:04] <@smaug> I have 11-03 build, so probably a buggy one
  3028. # [23:04] <mcomella> jcranmer: Okay, thanks
  3029. # [23:04] * philor is now known as philor|away
  3030. # [23:04] <mcomella> That seems like a shortcoming...
  3031. # [23:04] <@gavin> bz: it is fixed?
  3032. # [23:04] <@gavin> if you disable updates you won't get the fixed build tomorrow...
  3033. # [23:05] <@bz> gavin: it's not fixed in today's nightly
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  3035. # [23:05] <@bz> gavin: so if I enable updates my build will update to today's nightly in the background
  3036. # [23:05] <mccr8> another round of bugzilla spamming, see for instance: bug 757726
  3037. # [23:05] <@bz> gavin: and the next time I restart it will re-corrupt sessionstore
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  3040. # [23:05] <@bz> gavin: so I need to wait until we have a nightly with the fix
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  3042. # [23:05] <@bz> gavin: and then quit my (working) 10/29 nightly, directly download the fixed one, and start it
  3043. # [23:06] <@bz> gavin: so I make sure I'm never running a buggy nightly
  3044. # [23:06] <@bz> gavin: then reenable updates
  3045. # [23:06] <@bz> gavin: basically, the only way to avoid the bug is to make sure you're running a nightly from before it was introduced and not download the update until after we have a nightly with it fixed.
  3046. # [23:06] <@bz> gavin: (which we don't yet)
  3047. # [23:06] <@gavin> mccr8: disabled, thanks
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  3049. # [23:07] <@gavin> for future reference, if you see spammers report their username in #bmo/#it
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  3052. # [23:07] <mccr8> gavin: ah, thanks!
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  3054. # [23:08] <@smaug> bz: was the corrupted ss file empty, or just garbage ?
  3055. # [23:08] <@bz> smaug: it just had random tabs replaced with about:blank
  3056. # [23:08] <@bz> smaug: so it's not even completely garbage, just partly
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  3058. # [23:09] * @smaug has some files from Sat, which is when he updated last time
  3059. # [23:09] <@smaug> ah
  3060. # [23:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/301830ddbfb2 - Benoit Girard - Bug 930476 - Show paint markers for async frames. r=ehsan
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  3065. # [23:12] <@bz> Well, whatever bugs I miss...
  3066. # [23:12] <@bz> those people should have been using needinfo
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  3091. # [23:24] <billm> bz: the bug should be fixed in the currently nightly
  3092. # [23:24] <billm> bz: are you still having problems?
  3093. # [23:25] <\n> What's the best way for detecting if an nsIWebBrowserPersist sucessfully saved a file? I'm guessing on state change, but I'm not sure what flags I should be checking.
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  3098. # [23:25] <billm> smaug: also, we might be able to craft some JS to paste into the error console to fix bad nightlies
  3099. # [23:26] <billm> if that's something that would help
  3100. # [23:26] <@smaug> billm: right. In theory I should be running a bad nightly, but so far I haven't seen the issue. Perhaps it doesn't happen for everyone ?
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  3102. # [23:27] <billm> smaug: well, it will only happen when you restart and your tabs are missing. and by then it's too late.
  3103. # [23:27] <@bz> billm: Are you sure?
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  3105. # [23:27] <@bz> billm: let me check something
  3106. # [23:27] <billm> bz: the STR that alice found seems to be fixed. that's all I know.
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  3109. # [23:28] <@bz> What was the bug# again?
  3110. # [23:28] <billm> bz: bug 933587
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  3115. # [23:29] <billm> bz: (the STR was in bug 934212)
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  3120. # [23:30] <Waldo> bsmedberg: on the status board site, what markdown do I use for nested lists? the help stuff says "* top level\n<SP><SP><SP><SP>* nested level\n* top level", but that only gives me asterisky things at the nested level when I preview/submit it
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  3123. # [23:30] <decoder> philor: i see what you're saying with asan bc.. i have a perma-orange try run.. but i cannot reproduce locally
  3124. # [23:30] <decoder> i have exactly no clue whats going on or how it relates to asan
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  3126. # [23:30] <decoder> signal 9 means sigterm.. that happens on a timeout, but there is no timeout msg
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  3130. # [23:30] <@bz> billm: thanks
  3131. # [23:30] <@bsmedberg> Waldo: nested ** should work, let me check something
  3132. # [23:30] * @bz downloads builds to see
  3133. # [23:30] <philor> decoder: neat, huh? I also like how all the file exists stuff exists in green non-asan runs
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  3137. # [23:31] <decoder> philor: you mean in non-asan runs the same messages pop up but it's green?
  3138. # [23:31] <@bsmedberg> Waldo: hrm, I really don't know.
  3139. # [23:31] <philor> decoder: bonus fun, it may well be some lingering promise from some earlier test, so when we pull the trigger on disabling that test, which I think is the very last one, it may just move up
  3140. # [23:31] <gautam> Connecting Eclipse to Android Build tree. I am getting this error http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3423785
  3141. # [23:32] <@bz> billm: you're right, looks like that checkin made the nightly
  3142. # [23:32] <@bz> billm: thanks!
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  3144. # [23:32] * @bz will finish restoring his session, back up his sessionstore.js, then try it out
  3145. # [23:32] <decoder> philor: yea. id prefer to know whats going on.. having a regressing changeset would help, but i cannot bisect if it doesnt repro locally at all
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  3147. # [23:32] <Waldo> bsmedberg: okay; not the end of the world if I have literal asterisks for now, at the nested level, I guess
  3148. # [23:33] <@bsmedberg> apparently that's not supposed to work, actually
  3149. # [23:33] <billm> bz: sorry again for the trouble. I now realize that there's something worse than breaking gmail in nightly (which I've done twice now).
  3150. # [23:33] <Waldo> bsmedberg: hmm? http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/dingus seems to show it working
  3151. # [23:33] <philor> decoder: the signal 9 isn't in non-asan, but all the "promise chain failed to handle a rejection" "Unix error 17 during operation makeDir (File exists)" stuff is
  3152. # [23:33] <@bsmedberg> it does? I just tried it there and it didn't...
  3153. # [23:34] <decoder> philor: oh.. ok. that doesnt sound healthy
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  3155. # [23:34] <Waldo> bsmedberg: trying https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3423834
  3156. # [23:34] <@bz> billm: breaking gmail in a way that causes it to delete all the mails would be worse.... ;)
  3157. # [23:34] <@bsmedberg> oh, I was using **
  3158. # [23:34] <philor> Mossop or Unfocused might know if it's just expected noise
  3159. # [23:34] <@bz> billm: (I mean, not for me, but in general)
  3160. # [23:34] <billm> bz: maybe next year...
  3161. # [23:34] <@bz> billm: I really wonder why our regression tests didn't catch this. :(
  3162. # [23:35] <@bz> billm: lol
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  3165. # [23:35] <@bz> mostly the annoyance is that my todo list is more or less gone...
  3166. # [23:35] <Waldo> bsmedberg: current most-recent update on http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/weekly-updates.fcgi/user/jwalden%40mit.edu was using four-space-indented * and not getting truly nested lists
  3167. # [23:35] <@bz> so now I have to try to reconstruct it
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  3169. # [23:35] <billm> bz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=933587#c10 kindof explains the problem
  3170. # [23:36] <@bz> ah
  3171. # [23:36] <@bz> fun
  3172. # [23:36] <Waldo> good fun that TC39 is making const part of the language, so this sort of issue's going to pop up even more in the future ;-)
  3173. # [23:37] <Waldo> var ought to be enough for anyone
  3174. # [23:37] <Waldo> </curmudgeon>
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  3180. # [23:40] <tbsaunde> Waldo: itym the lambda calculus should be enough for anyone
  3181. # [23:40] <Gijs> bz: did you already push bisection of interface names further than the a-m thing for bug 933964?
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  3183. # [23:40] <Waldo> tbsaunde: church humerals, tyvm
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  3185. # [23:40] <Gijs> bz: or would it make sense for me to fire off a bunch (3-4) narrowing down which of n-z is responsible?
  3186. # [23:40] <Waldo> s/hum/num/
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  3189. # [23:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d75a3d6ca762 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 1f661a4ca15c (bug 754356) for suspicion of causing xpcshell failures. a=backout
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  3195. # [23:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/19f69219b449 - Mike Hommey - Bug 934336 - Remove apparently useless dependencies on js-confdefs.h. r=mshal
  3196. # [23:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e8cbcc2a8a8 - Mike Hommey - Bug 934344 - Fix race condition in parallel export, between js/xpconnect/src and xpcom/idl-parser. r=mshal
  3197. # [23:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef68e2419a37 - Mike Hommey - Bug 934338 - Few cleanups in layout/style/test/Makefile.in. r=mshal
  3198. # [23:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c698de28d69d - Mike Hommey - Bug 934166 - Disable pseudo derecurse on PGO builds. r=mshal
  3199. # [23:44] <decoder> glandium: froydnj was experiencing problems earlier because the ICU build system takes our ldflags but ignores c/cxxflags. I modified icu to always use our c/cxxflags but I had to add -frtti at the end of cxxflags for icu, because it relies on rtti.
  3200. # [23:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/02cd5a0de5da - Mike Hommey - Bug 934360 - Remove GRE_MILESTONE computation from Makefiles. r=mshal
  3201. # [23:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6379c1cb6fa7 - Mike Hommey - Bug 933779 - Always use forward slash as path separator when passing -C argument to make. r=mshal
  3202. # [23:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6213c08f1ba1 - Mike Hommey - Bug 934361 - Remove CHROME_DEPS. r=mshal
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  3219. # [23:52] <@bz> er...
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  3222. # [23:52] <@bz> does the "search bookmarks" thing ignore the currently selected bookmark folder???
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  3224. # [23:52] <@bz> Sure looks like it
  3225. # [23:53] <@bz> %^&%^&%^*&^*^&*&*^
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  3227. # [23:53] <@bz> Why???????
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  3234. # [23:54] * @bz hopes he didn't delete anything he cared about. :(
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  3239. # [23:56] <bjacob> njn: do we have a specific reason not to use std::unordered_map on platforms where we have it, instead of pldhash? (e.g. as the implementation of nsDataHashtable, or even the implementation of pldhash)
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  3246. # [23:59] <Waldo> hmm, anyone know kohei yoshino's IRC nick?
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