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  1. # Session Start: Tue Nov 05 00:00:00 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
  3. # [00:00] <@gavin> kohei
  4. # [00:00] <@bz> Is there seriously no way to search for bookmarks in a folder?
  5. # [00:00] <Waldo> bjacob: might also consider js::HashTable from js/HashTable.h (js/public/HashTable.h in tree)
  6. # [00:01] <Waldo> gavin: thanks
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  10. # [00:01] <bjacob> Waldo: what kind of size limitations does it have? (i'm asking because until 2 weeks ago, pldhash was limited to 8M elements, and is now limited to 64M elements, and getting rid of such arbitrary limits is the primary thing that I am looking for)
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  17. # [00:04] <Waldo> bjacob: I think it was a C++ification of jsdhash, so it's still at 8M right now, but we could change that
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  22. # [00:05] <@dbaron> bjacob, how much code they expand to varies a lot, I believe
  23. # [00:05] <glandium> bjacob: i doubt gcc 4.4 supports it
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  25. # [00:05] <Gijs> bz: you may be able to check if you deleted something you cared about with bookmarks html backups...
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  27. # [00:05] <@dbaron> bjacob, pldhash is, underneath, vtable-based, so it doesn't spew out an entire hashtable implementation for each data type you put in a hashtable
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  29. # [00:05] <Gijs> (they'd be in your profile dir)
  30. # [00:05] <@dbaron> bjacob, some of the others might not have that characteristic
  31. # [00:06] <@dbaron> (by "it" I mean nsDataHashtable)
  32. # [00:06] <Waldo> dbaron: apropos of nothing, it's funny that we apparently both started at Mozilla the same day :-)
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  34. # [00:07] <bjacob> dbaron: ok, template code instantiation is definitely an issue to watch out for
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  37. # [00:07] <Waldo> bjacob: btw, looking at js/HashTable.h code after a patch I have that makes the max-size stuff readable, I think we could trivially change the max capacity if needed
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  40. # [00:08] <Waldo> the current max-size stuff is insane
  41. # [00:08] <Waldo> the constants you'd expect, but then they're all scaled by 2**7 and such in offsetting ways
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  45. # [00:08] <Waldo> the end result being the math that's performed is madness to understand
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  50. # [00:10] <bjacob> Waldo: in pldhash's case, see njn's work on bug 927705, it was nontrivial to push back the limit, and 64M was all we could get. Hopefully js/hashtable allows really getting rid of the limit.
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  57. # [00:13] <Waldo> hmm, given the code after my patch, the max size would be 2**(32 - sizeof(Key) - sizeof(Value)), actually; that might indeed be harder to push back
  58. # [00:13] <Waldo> also, I guess we don't have a static_assert for that limitation right now, do we
  59. # [00:13] <Waldo> blargh
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  63. # [00:16] <Waldo> or, no
  64. # [00:16] <Waldo> that's a size_t, so I guess that might be safe
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  70. # [00:17] <Waldo> more investigation needed, but I think we could increase that size fairly easily
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  73. # [00:18] <@bz> Gijs: I'm way past caring at this point
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  75. # [00:19] <@bz> Gijs: I have 1500 more urls to go through to see whether I need to restore any of them....
  76. # [00:19] <tbsaunde> bjacob: well, we *could* make pldhash take larger sizes, njm just thought the costs outweigh the benefits
  77. # [00:19] <Gijs> :(
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  79. # [00:19] <@bz> Gijs: I've already deleted 4500 or so
  80. # [00:19] <@bz> Gijs: Of course the remaining 1500 need more careful checking. :(
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  83. # [00:21] <Gijs> Hmm
  84. # [00:21] <Gijs> mach tells me "ImportError: no module named mach.logging
  85. # [00:21] * @bz is almost down to just the bugzilla bug urls
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  88. # [00:23] <bjacob> tbsaunde: ah ok
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  93. # [00:26] <nsm> mhenretty: ping?
  94. # [00:26] <mhenretty> nsm: what's up?
  95. # [00:26] <froydnj> glandium: gcc 4.4 supports it, just probably as tr1/unordered_map
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  97. # [00:26] <nsm> mhenretty: it seems notification.get() is not spec compliant - http://notifications.spec.whatwg.org/#dom-notification-get step 7.1
  98. # [00:26] <froydnj> might have to write some sort of wrapper header
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  103. # [00:27] <glandium> froydnj: and figure if it's exception safe
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  109. # [00:29] <mhenretty> nsm: it's not? what did i miss?
  110. # [00:29] <nsm> mhenretty: shouldn't it reuse the JS exposed Notification object if there is one, rather than always calling CreateInternal()
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  115. # [00:30] <mhenretty> oh, i didn't see 7.1
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  118. # [00:32] <mhenretty> nsm: you are right, it is missing that
  119. # [00:32] <nsm> mhenretty: ok, this is going to be a little tricky to implement, please CC me on the bug
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  121. # [00:34] <mhenretty> nsm: will do. shouldn't be that hard hopefully, just need to keep a cache of the live notifications in c++ world
  122. # [00:34] <mhenretty> thanks for the heads up
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  124. # [00:35] <nsm> mhenretty: no problem, you want to make sure the cache doesn't keep the object alive, and i guess in Notification Unlink() you'll remove it from the cache
  125. # [00:36] <nsm> or in the dtor
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  127. # [00:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a9f2271cc2af - Camilo Viecco - Bug 934649: Update configure.in to require NSS 3.15.3 (TLS 1.2). r=bsmith
  128. # [00:38] <mhenretty> nsm: that sounds right
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  174. # [00:57] <philor> fun things starring teaches you: you can type "waste" with just your left hand, no need to take the right off the mouse
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  182. # [01:03] <Jesse> bz: i'm belatedly taking advantage of the improved dom-bindings error messages in my fuzzer ;) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=882653
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  199. # [01:08] <chucklee> mrbkap, I could''t reach vincent but he responses now.
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  234. # [01:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14c14da01456 - Karl Tomlinson - b=856850 use PodMove for potentially overlapping buffers r=roc
  235. # [01:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9de5adbcb373 - Jesse Ruderman - crashtest for bug 933151
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  237. # [01:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d6f42dd7e54 - Karl Tomlinson - b=856850 add PodMove r=Waldo
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  239. # [01:23] <nrc> is there anyway to load an html file with chrome privileges? Without making an extension out of it
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  243. # [01:23] <KWierso> bsmedberg-away: ping
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  248. # [01:33] <jld> So... even without sandboxing, my emulator mochitests die in dom/permission/tests/test_webapps-manage.html
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  251. # [01:34] <jld> As in, the content process ceases to exist and this was clearly not expected by anything.
  252. # [01:34] <jld> And this seems to not affect TBPL when it does the same thing.
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  255. # [01:34] <johns> yury: If you could opt to have a JS-plugin show up in about:addons and be enabled/disabled by the user, would pdfjs or shumway use that feature, or do they want to handle their enabled state themselves?
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  257. # [01:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e8c9664d36d2 - Terrence Cole - Bug 927939 - Always tenure with background finalization; r=jonco
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  266. # [01:41] <philor> bustage on bustage, our little fx-team sapling is all grown up now
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  268. # [01:41] <nsm> mhenretty: could you also update your bugzilla name's IRC bit. Thanks! ;)
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  270. # [01:42] <mwu> jld: time to land!
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  272. # [01:43] <yury> johns: hmm, having ability to disable plugins with about:addons will be nice, but will it affect "full screen" pdf content
  273. # [01:43] <yury> ?
  274. # [01:43] <jld> mwu: Land what? Where?
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  276. # [01:43] <mwu> sandboxing
  277. # [01:43] <johns> yury: the pseudo-plugins behave just like real plugins, including full page handlers
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  280. # [01:44] <johns> yury: If the JS plugin is disabled and there's no other plugin, full page PDFs will just show a big "this plugin is disabled", just like having only-disabled-acrobat would
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  284. # [01:44] <jld> mwu: As in, I can't run tbpl's tests locally for unknown reasons, and I can't try-run a manifest change, so I should just check in the new kernels and see what breaks?
  285. # [01:45] <jld> Rather, I can run them but they don't behave the same way.
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  287. # [01:45] <yury> johns: probably it will be okay, I need to talk to bdahl
  288. # [01:45] <RyanVM|afk> philor: interesting that the test_CSP_frameancestors.html asserts are on Aurora now too. I have a suspect in mind for what's causing it. We'll see if the retriggers agree :)
  289. # [01:45] <mwu> didn't mean for that to be taken seriously, but hey, I guess that's another way to see if things work
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  291. # [01:46] <johns> yury: Basically I'm wondering if nsFakePluginTag.enabledState should just default to enabled and let the addon change it at startup if it wishes, or if it should be hooked up to the same plugin.<nicename>.state prefs and about:addons stuff real tags are
  292. # [01:46] <mwu> jld: I believe you can actually borrow a machine or two if you want to run in the same exact env as the test/build machines
  293. # [01:46] <johns> if it sounds like something that would get use, I can definitely do the latter
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  295. # [01:46] <jld> mwu: But seriously, it'd be nice to know why things are behaving differently.
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  297. # [01:48] <mwu> jld: are you running things *exactly* the same as tbpl?
  298. # [01:48] <mwu> same test chunking and all
  299. # [01:49] <mwu> arm emulation with gl passthrough to mesa
  300. # [01:49] <jld> mwu: `./mach mochitest-remote` on an "emulator" config.
  301. # [01:49] <Unfocused> johns / yury: fwiw, my vote would be using the plugin.state.* prefs and makes it all manageable via about:addons - no need to reinvent the wheel. can easily add additional UI on top of that if UX thinks its warrented
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  303. # [01:50] <Unfocused> and if about:addons misbehaves for this kind of thing, ping me. in theory, it should work seamlessly, but....
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  305. # [01:51] <mwu> jld: that's not quite the same. I don't think that gets you chunking
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  311. # [01:52] <johns> Unfocused: Assuming about:addons only looks at nsIPluginTag it should just work.
  312. # [01:52] <mwu> jld: also, have you tried running that test all by itself?
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  315. # [01:52] <philor> wonder whether we could keep a fulltime filer-of-intermittent-failure-bugs busy
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  317. # [01:53] <mhenretty> nsm: done
  318. # [01:53] <jld> mwu: Tried that. It timed out with nothing else obvious going on. Rerunning with logcat to try to get more info.
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  320. # [01:53] <RyanVM|afk> philor: nah, that's what we have volunteers for ;)
  321. # [01:53] <mwu> jld: I would try matching the chunk config on tbpl
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  323. # [01:53] <philor> RyanVM|afk: we seem to have failed to persuade them to do it
  324. # [01:53] <Unfocused> yep, that was my thoughts
  325. # [01:54] <philor> despite the delicious enticements
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  328. # [01:56] <glandium> KWierso: fwiw, the xpcshell orange on your backout on osx 10.8 debug is fishy. Looking at the log and the test, this seems to mean it can't find the TestUnicodeArguments file. But if the file is not there, it shouldn't be there on 10.7 debug as well, and the test should fail the same.
  329. # [01:56] <Unfocused> johns: but also, if about:addons doesn't have some capability/UI that you want, let me know
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  331. # [01:57] <glandium> KWierso: that being said: "WARNING: NS_ENSURE_TRUE(compMgr) failed: file ../../../xpcom/glue/nsComponentManagerUtils.cpp, line 58" this is completely weird as well
  332. # [01:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c51e46899a05 - Jonathan Kew - bug 833087 - stop background font info loading when quit-application notification is observed. r=BenWa
  333. # [01:58] <glandium> but that might just be xpcshell shutdown not working well when this test fails
  334. # [01:58] <philor> s/xpcshell//
  335. # [01:58] <philor> s/ when this test fails//
  336. # [01:59] <glandium> philor: happens everywhere?
  337. # [01:59] <philor> glandium: dunno if it's constant, but it's certainly there enough when I'm looking at shutdown that I don't think anything of it
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  339. # [02:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/494772cbf209 - Patrick McManus - Bug 777354 - Make httpd.js shutdown quickly with idle never used sockets. r=jduell, a=test-only
  340. # [02:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2dc0d50848e4 - Brian Smith - Bug 754356 - Remove TLS intolerance timeout logic. r=honzab, a=lsblakk
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  342. # [02:02] <philor> glandium: random green mochitest-2, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30104942&tree=Mozilla-Inbound, twice further up and then again at shutdown
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  344. # [02:02] <yury> Unfocused: johns: sounds good. personally I would like to have plugin-less mode for pdf.js in addition to ^^
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  348. # [02:02] <yury> but that can be solved by stream converter and extension
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  359. # [02:07] <johns> yury: Well plugin-less mode already works with <object> tags if you have a top-level handler for that type, but <embed>/<applet> only load plugin-types
  360. # [02:07] <KWierso> philor: hrm, that m1 orange on m-c is on aurora-tip as well...
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  362. # [02:07] <johns> yury: With these patches you can opt-out of registering in navigator.plugins (and about:addons), so the js-plugin API would just be to pretend to be a plugin for those legacy tags, in that case
  363. # [02:08] <philor> KWierso: yeah, that's the one RyanVM|afk was talking about retriggering for
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  367. # [02:08] * KWierso clearly missed that conversation...
  368. # [02:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/734992e111a2 - John Daggett - Bug 934719 - log load begin and end in presshell. r=heycam
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  376. # [02:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29d32441a17b - Byron Campen [:bwc] - Bug 934317: Mutex-protect the RLogRingBuffer, since more than one thread is using it. r=jesup
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  380. # [02:17] <jdm> "And now, good night my friends :) *hugs*"
  381. # [02:17] <jdm> best way to end a day of obnoxious spamming
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  383. # [02:18] <RyanVM|afk> KWierso: philor: after all this buildup, I better be right about this :P
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  389. # [02:23] <reuben> hehe
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  397. # [02:26] <philor> heh, and how did KWierso break test_ipc_messagemanager_blob.html on armv6 with a backout?
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  402. # [02:27] <KWierso> philor: you sure that was me?
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  406. # [02:28] <KWierso> glandium's push didn't run that test :\
  407. # [02:28] <philor> KWierso: &onlyunstarred=1 says it was, and it never lies
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  409. # [02:28] <philor> (see also the way I retriggered on glandium's push)
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  437. # [02:43] <RyanVM|afk> hmm, the retrigger puts it near where I thought it would be...
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  440. # [02:45] <RyanVM|afk> KWierso: philor: (I'm suspecting bug 915951, fwiw)
  441. # [02:45] <RyanVM|afk> retriggered a bunch of runs on m-b too
  442. # [02:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c9c2f1111006 - ffxbld - Added FIREFOX_26_0b2_RELEASE FIREFOX_26_0b2_BUILD1 tag(s) for changeset 906cfde34aa2. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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  450. # [02:49] <KWierso> philor: still not sure how my backout broke m2 and m5...
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  455. # [02:50] <RyanVM|afk> philor: KWierso: possible that it's glandium's and needed a clobber to appear?
  456. # [02:50] <KWierso> RyanVM|afk: sounds more likely than my backout doing it
  457. # [02:51] <RyanVM|afk> wouldn't be horribly shocked to see build system bustage appear after clobbering
  458. # [02:51] <RyanVM|afk> seems plausible at least
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  477. # [03:02] <KWierso> RyanVM|afk: out of curiosity, did bug 913641 get regressed recently, or is the current "this.markup is undefined" completely new?
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  484. # [03:08] <RyanVM|afk> KWierso: recent regression
  485. # [03:08] <RyanVM|afk> well, "recent"
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  489. # [03:11] <Unfocused> mbrubeck: if 927124 needs a toolkit peer at any stage, feel free to throw it my way
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  494. # [03:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/90c9b1b80703 - William Chen - Bug 932086 - Hoist <template> to head when found between </head> and <body>. r=hsivonen
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  506. # [03:19] <Bas> Does anyone know if you can have a macro define a macro? :)
  507. # [03:19] <Bas> i.e. something like #define FOO(arg) #define BAR arg
  508. # [03:20] <@bz> Bas: afaik, no
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  512. # [03:21] <@khuey> macros can't expand into preprocessor directives
  513. # [03:22] <Bas> khuey bz: I was afraid of that :) Or glad, I'm not sure which one I am :)
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  516. # [03:23] <@khuey> glad
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  527. # [03:29] <grobinson> is there some set of CSS that is common to all of XUL?
  528. # [03:30] <@khuey> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/content/xul.css
  529. # [03:30] <grobinson> thanks khuey!
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  532. # [03:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/240145f87b58 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 934439 - Add an APZC_LOG line for UpdateScrollOffset. r=botond
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  547. # [03:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f34a58fcc1a3 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 930904 - Ensure the presShell resolution is recorded on the FrameMetrics for the root scrollable layer of the presShell. r=tn
  548. # [03:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de45f494f6b2 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 930904 - Remove some old code for android that is now no-op'd. r=tn
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  555. # [03:47] <KWierso> philor: odd, those armv6 oranges are gone after a few runs...
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  560. # [03:49] <philor> okay folks, nothing to see here, move along
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  564. # [03:50] <KWierso> philor: also curious about that m1 retrigger spree that ryanVM did on aurora
  565. # [03:50] <KWierso> looks like it's pointing to bug 931335
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  572. # [03:55] <philor> heh, when his target landed on fx-team, it was right above a shitload of unstarred, unfiled, massively retriggered mochitest-1 failures
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  578. # [03:58] <jld> Lazyweb, how do I run mochitest-N on b2g?
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  580. # [03:58] <jld> MDN will tell me how to run all the mochitests on b2g, or the numbered pieces on desktop, but not both.
  581. # [03:58] <philor> first, you get a very large needle
  582. # [03:59] <jld> I mean, this may or may not help with tests that fail here and work there even though there shouldn't be any difference.
  583. # [04:00] <jld> After which I can deal with the things I actually need to fix but am not sure how.
  584. # [04:00] <philor> Copy/paste: /builds/slave/test/build/venv/bin/python runtestsb2g.py --adbpath=/builds/slave/test/build/emulator/b2g-distro/out/host/linux-x86/bin/adb --b2gpath=/builds/slave/test/build/emulator/b2g-distro --console-level=INFO --emulator=arm --logcat-dir=/builds/slave/test/build --remote-webserver=10.0.2.2 --test-manifest=b2g.json --xre-path=/builds/slave/test/build/xre/bin --symbols-path=http://pvtbuilds.pvt.build.mozilla.org//pu
  585. # [04:00] <philor> b/mozilla.org/b2g/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-generic/20131101043605/b2g-28.0a1.en-US.android-arm.crashreporter-symbols.zip --busybox=/builds/slave/test/build/busybox --total-chunks=9 --this-chunk=1
  586. # [04:01] <philor> would be how releng runs mochitest-1 of 9
  587. # [04:01] <philor> so I think I'd just stick --total-chunks and --this-chunk on the end of whatever MDN says to do
  588. # [04:02] <jld> philor: ...ow. I think I'll see what happens if I pass --total-chunks and --this-chunk to ./mach mochitest-remote, instead.
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  590. # [04:03] <jld> philor: But thanks. Hopefully I can turn that into something that works, one way or another.
  591. # [04:03] <philor> can't you just type "b;r" in the bug? that's how I fix b2g mochitests
  592. # [04:03] <@bz> Hmm
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  594. # [04:03] <@bz> If I have an empty nsString, will it have a stringbuffer?
  595. # [04:03] * @bz looks
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  597. # [04:03] <jld> philor: I'm trying to make the world safe for content process sandboxing.
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  599. # [04:04] <@bz> I guess yes, sEmptyBuffer....
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  601. # [04:04] <jld> philor: So I probably can't even do a try run, unless there's some way to have the tryserver patch the b2g manifest before doing repo sync.
  602. # [04:05] <@khuey> bz: yeah, same idea as nsTArray
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  604. # [04:05] <@khuey> presumably to avoid branching overhead or something
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  606. # [04:05] <@bz> well
  607. # [04:05] <@bz> it's forcing branching overhead on me
  608. # [04:05] <@bz> or at least extra checks
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  610. # [04:06] <@bz> actually, no
  611. # [04:06] <@bz> wait
  612. # [04:06] <@bz> nsStringBuffer::FromString() will return null in that case, right?
  613. # [04:06] <@bz> So I guess the real question is...
  614. # [04:06] <@bz> Are there any not-insane cases where nsStringBuffer::FromString() returns nonnull
  615. # [04:06] <@bz> but the string length is 0?
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  633. # [04:20] <KWierso> so do I back 931335 out of aurora and some trunk tree or what?
  634. # [04:20] <philor> nope
  635. # [04:22] <@khuey> oh wow
  636. # [04:22] <KWierso> reuben: your bustage fix has bustage
  637. # [04:22] <@khuey> a test failure that I can actually reproduce
  638. # [04:22] * @khuey hasn't had one of these in weeks
  639. # [04:22] <reuben> welp
  640. # [04:23] <philor> it happened 1 of 29 on that push, and 0 of 50 on the push before, and if it happened once on trunk and the possibilities landed last Thursday or Friday, the actual frequency is more like 1 in 1000
  641. # [04:23] * reuben stares at os x green builds in disbelief
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  643. # [04:24] <@bz> KWierso: I believe the right phrasing is "Yo dawg, you put a bustage in your bustage"
  644. # [04:24] <KWierso> philor: one on m-c, one on b2g-i
  645. # [04:24] <philor> ah, I don't look there
  646. # [04:24] <reuben> KWierso: backed out
  647. # [04:25] <philor> how many times did we run mochitest-1 since last Friday?
  648. # [04:25] <KWierso> reuben: thanks
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  651. # [04:25] <KWierso> philor: several?
  652. # [04:27] <philor> here, let me trigger 750 runs on bjacob's push on trunk, and 750 on the push before it, and let's see what we get from that
  653. # [04:27] * philor suspects a tired finger
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  670. # [04:36] <Callek> philor: only 750, why not round up to 1000
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  676. # [04:39] <philor> Callek: because I know my finger would get tired then
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  680. # [04:40] <Callek> meh, curl --dfoo=bar <buildapi retrigger button> ---- in a script
  681. # [04:40] <philor> and belatedly looks at the size of the pool
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  683. # [04:41] <Callek> coalescing will save our pool
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  685. # [04:41] <Callek> </last screams of the relenger>
  686. # [04:41] <philor> nope
  687. # [04:41] <philor> retriggers don't coalesce, sheriffs screamed louder than you are capable of screaming
  688. # [04:42] <philor> anyway, it's 315, go get those 23 busted ones in service for me, kthx
  689. # [04:42] <jcranmer> excuse me while I go sneak a forkbomb into my next try push
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  692. # [04:44] <Callek> philor: oooo ec2, yea not much I can *easily* do to get those 23 busted ones back in service
  693. # [04:44] <Callek> philor: of course if wait times start to negatively be impacted there, we can relatively easily increase that pool to suit our load there!
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  695. # [04:45] <Callek> (so if you think we need a larger pool sooner than later, if you get a bug on it the machines will come)
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  697. # [04:46] <philor> only at 8 minutes, even though we retriggered several hundred high-priority runs on aurora
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  729. # [05:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/282e0c10de45 - Chris Peterson - Bug 934262 - Fix -Wtautological-constant-out-of-range-compare warnings in js/src/jit/. r=luke
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  757. # [05:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/42e6d140004e - Mike Hommey - Bug 934335 - Fix standalone js's make install again. r=mshal
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  759. # [05:35] <nigelb> Evening KWierso
  760. # [05:35] <KWierso> nigelb: howdy
  761. # [05:36] <nigelb> I was going to file something when I saw you just filed it :)
  762. # [05:36] <nigelb> The "Intermittent test_CSP_frameancestors.html" one
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  811. # [06:28] <philor> easier that way
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  813. # [06:29] <@khuey> ha
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  815. # [06:30] <philor> new bug, I guess, though I thought I'd seen it and found a bug for it
  816. # [06:32] <jld> I think the --this-chunk option is not actually changing what `mach mochitest-remote` does.
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  825. # [06:36] <@khuey> if bent wrote the patch, then definitely ;-)
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  831. # [06:39] <philor> no, mochitest-1 where media lives, and a media patch
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  833. # [06:40] <@bz_sleep> And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards mochitest-1 to be born.
  834. # [06:40] <philor> now I sort of wish I hadn't tied up every single linux64 test slave :)
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  837. # [06:41] <@bz_sleep> keeping them tied up!
  838. # [06:41] <@bz_sleep> Shame on you. ;)
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  846. # [06:46] <glandium> khuey: do you remember much about requiring aslr for binary components on windows?
  847. # [06:47] <@khuey> glandium: a bit
  848. # [06:47] <@khuey> glandium: what's up?
  849. # [06:47] <glandium> khuey: specifically, why the check is only when ldrloaddll happens on the main thread?
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  851. # [06:49] <@khuey> glandium: well, we needed to restrict it to just DLLs loaded during xpcom init
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  853. # [06:49] <@khuey> glandium: er, xpcom module loading
  854. # [06:49] <glandium> khuey: ah, because of antivirus side loading and stuff like that?
  855. # [06:49] <@khuey> glandium: and I didn't want to bother with TLS, so it seemed easiest just to do main thread only
  856. # [06:49] <gkw> froydnj: pong from some time ago, was traveling
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  859. # [06:49] <@khuey> glandium: or graphics drivers
  860. # [06:49] <@khuey> glandium: or who knows what else
  861. # [06:49] <glandium> khuey: ok, makes sense
  862. # [06:49] <glandium> thx
  863. # [06:50] <@khuey> I tried and it didn't even work on my machine
  864. # [06:50] <@khuey> because the gfx drivers got blocked ;-)
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  892. # [07:05] <jld> There seems to be this recurring theme where I'm fighting FxOS, and resort to some excessively low-level method of debugging because nothing else works, and that doesn't work either.
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  894. # [07:06] <@khuey> sounds about right
  895. # [07:06] <jld> Tonight: strace [flags redacted] ./mach mochitest-remote
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  897. # [07:06] <@khuey> lol
  898. # [07:06] <@khuey> strace is pretty low level
  899. # [07:06] <glandium> jld: what did you expect from that, except debugging what your computer is doing locally?
  900. # [07:07] <jld> System call tracing is surprisingly useful.
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  905. # [07:09] <jld> glandium: Well, I'm trying to find out what it's actually running, to compare it with the command line that philor pasted. So I could desk-check my way through lots of object-oriented Python, or...
  906. # [07:10] <jld> Except I bet it's just invoking whatever directly.
  907. # [07:10] <glandium> jld: strace -f -eexecve?
  908. # [07:11] * @khuey also notes that if you want to set a floor you want std::max
  909. # [07:11] <jld> glandium: That, and -e signal=none to avoid the hundreds of thousands of lines in the log.
  910. # [07:11] <@khuey> not std::min
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  913. # [07:11] <@khuey> also
  914. # [07:11] <@khuey> WeirdAl++
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  916. # [07:13] <jld> I especially like the part where three tests fail outright, but I never find out what they were because of the test much later on that times out.
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  920. # [07:15] <jld> I mean, not as much as how none of this breaks on tbpl, when it's all running INSIDE A VIRTUAL MACHINE in both cases.
  921. # [07:15] * @khuey wonders if we would accept a patch to tryserver
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  923. # [07:15] <@khuey> if uname == 'khuey': priority += 10
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  930. # [07:19] <jld> khuey: Fortunately, the change I'm fighting with can't be tried, so I'm not competing with you there.
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  944. # [07:34] <philor> mattwoodrow: I think that Windows no-accel is probably yours
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  947. # [07:38] <nigelb> Ha, I was just going to bring that up.
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  951. # [07:41] <rcampbelllaos> On bug 924839, what currently needs changing in order to get ICU 52.1 on?
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  963. # [07:47] <mattwoodrow> philor: Yeah, that'd be c99d15a060e2
  964. # [07:47] <mattwoodrow> No idea why though!
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  968. # [07:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/770de5942471 - Gene Lian - Backout 3c0d710561bf (bug 927363) due to causing bug 930296.
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  970. # [07:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13469e0250a3 - Gene Lian - Backout 3c0d710561bf (bug 927363) due to causing bug 930296.
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  979. # [07:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c7c4e8463dc3 - Makoto Kato - Bug 892856 - Protobuf fails to build in VS 2013. r=mmc
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  981. # [08:02] <nigelb> philor: have you noticed anything with tbpl not finding bugs lately?
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  985. # [08:02] <nigelb> (or is it something I'm doing wrong)
  986. # [08:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed57804472ee - Matt Woodrow - Backout c99d15a060e2 for causing windows Ru reftest failures.
  987. # [08:05] <philor> nigelb: I haven't, no
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  990. # [08:07] <nigelb> Hrm.
  991. # [08:07] <nigelb> when I hit the update url, it finds the bug. But then the UI doesn't show me the bug I just filed.
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  993. # [08:09] <philor> tbpl has a bug cache, so it won't find newly-filed things, plus it caches the annotated summary locally, so when the server cache regenerates (which you can do manually), you still won't see it in the browser where you first got no results
  994. # [08:09] <philor> just a little bonus for filing, you wind up responsible for any more instances for the next little while :)
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  997. # [08:10] <nigelb> Ah! :)
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  999. # [08:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29c40458efff - Gabor Krizsanits - Bug 930910 - options object for Cu.createObjectIn. r=bholley
  1000. # [08:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b854d05169de - Gabor Krizsanits - Bug 930910 - exportFunction for Cu. r=bholley
  1001. # [08:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/27ffaa0d3c03 - Gabor Krizsanits - Bug 930910 - evalInWindow for Cu. r=bholley
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  1003. # [08:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b23ec089b24 - Gabor Krizsanits - Bug 930523 = createObjectIn should waive. r=bholley
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  1071. # [08:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> seth: thanks for fixing bug 922613!
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  1088. # [09:13] <nigelb> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Morning! Is "command timed out: 14400 seconds elapsed, attempting to kill" on a B2G Empulator OPT build just something that needs a retrigger? (on inbound)
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  1090. # [09:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nigelb: yeah and worth filing a bug
  1091. # [09:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> so both :)
  1092. # [09:15] <nigelb> aha! :)
  1093. # [09:16] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nigelb: you could use bug 845280 as blueprint for this kind of bugs :)
  1094. # [09:16] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> blueprint/example
  1095. # [09:16] * @khuey wonders how lucky he will be if he crashlands this evening
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  1097. # [09:17] <nigelb> aha, I was going to ask what component to file it under :)
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  1099. # [09:18] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nigelb: :) yeah i had the same problem some time ago
  1100. # [09:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> kanru: first build turn green on b2g-i :) ++
  1101. # [09:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> btw nigelb we mentioned you on https://sheriffs.etherpad.mozilla.org/sheriffing-notes
  1102. # [09:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
  1103. # [09:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> so don't wonder if you get sheriff pings :)
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  1106. # [09:22] <nigelb> That's why Ms2ger gave me karma last night. I did wonder.
  1107. # [09:22] * nigelb adds his timezome
  1108. # [09:22] <nigelb> *zone
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  1110. # [09:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
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  1118. # [09:27] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nigelb: i will clean up b2g-i
  1119. # [09:28] * whimboo|afk is now known as whimboo
  1120. # [09:28] <nigelb> I usually don't even look at b2g-i, I should start, heh.
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  1123. # [09:29] <nigelb> I've got the ones on m-i
  1124. # [09:29] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> cool!
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  1126. # [09:29] <glob> happy bmo 'omg will you stop pushing already' day! https://globau.wordpress.com/2013/11/05/happy-bmo-push-day-72/
  1127. # [09:30] <@khuey> so how far to I have to bump my priority on try before I get slaves before b2g-inbound?
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  1130. # [09:32] <josh> What is the best way to get a null-terminated PRUnichar copy of the contents of an nsAString?
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  1134. # [09:35] <josh> Seems like ToNewUnicode is the best way to go
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  1137. # [09:38] <dholbert> josh, you should be able to wrap it in a nsString (or a nsAutoString if this is a local var), and then call ".get()" on that
  1138. # [09:38] <dholbert> josh, it looks like ToNewUnicode will always do string-copying, which might not be what you want in cases where it's unnecessary
  1139. # [09:39] <josh> dholbert: I do want a copy, always, this isn't a local variable
  1140. # [09:39] <josh> dholbert: thanks
  1141. # [09:39] <dholbert> josh, ok, sounds like you're good then
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  1145. # [09:40] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
  1146. # [09:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning Ms2ger
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  1149. # [09:42] <nigelb> Hello Ms2ger
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  1156. # [09:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d4fdcf5f3c04 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 932309 - Don't null out mDoc in nsGlobalWindow::FreeInnerObjects, additional fixes. r=smaug.
  1157. # [09:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e30f630191b9 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 932309 - Don't null out mDoc in nsGlobalWindow::FreeInnerObjects. r=smaug.
  1158. # [09:54] * Ms2ger crosses fingers
  1159. # [09:55] <peterv> Ms2ger: this one should be fine, I'm landing in stages now
  1160. # [09:55] <Ms2ger> If you say so ;)
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  1167. # [09:58] <peterv> Ms2ger: if it's not then I guess no WebIDL for Window :-P
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  1169. # [09:59] <Ms2ger> peterv, eh, that works too :)
  1170. # [10:01] <Ms2ger> Also, I wish the engineers had wall sockets
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  1177. # [10:07] <nigelb> Hell yeah, starred/filed all the inbound failures.
  1178. # [10:07] <edmorley> :-)
  1179. # [10:08] <Ms2ger> nigelb++
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  1183. # [10:09] <nigelb> Ms2ger: Is the sherrifing why you gave me karma yesterday?
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  1185. # [10:09] <nigelb> Hrm, is the title for this bug slightly wrong? Bug 927312
  1186. # [10:10] <Ms2ger> Yep
  1187. # [10:10] <nigelb> Intermittent Windows tp5n "talosE... vs Intermittent Windows tp5o "talosE
  1188. # [10:10] <Ms2ger> (edmorley reported on you during the meeting)
  1189. # [10:10] <nigelb> Aha
  1190. # [10:11] <edmorley> (the a-team weekly meeting)
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  1196. # [10:12] <nigelb> Yeah, I missed it. Thanks to DST turning off, it's even later for me.
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  1202. # [10:18] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
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  1204. # [10:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok b2g-i i now back at a working stage, deleting the notes from the etherpad
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  1206. # [10:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm edmorley bug 934378 seems really a regression :(
  1207. # [10:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> when i see all the tbpl robot staring
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  1209. # [10:21] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: do you mean you think the failure rate is too high? (technically all newly filed intermittent failures are regressions)
  1210. # [10:21] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> well the change landed november 3
  1211. # [10:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> and november 4 the bug was filed
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  1219. # [10:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: yeah i think its maybe something we should look how this develops in the next days
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  1221. # [10:24] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I'm not saying I disagree, I just wanted to make sure I had worked out what you meant correctly :-)
  1222. # [10:25] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: yeah :))
  1223. # [10:25] <nigelb> Oh yeah. I've starred that at least 3 times today?
  1224. # [10:25] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm we could also blame nigelb ;)
  1225. # [10:25] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
  1226. # [10:25] <nigelb> Haha
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  1232. # [10:33] * NeilAway idly wonders what Readability is
  1233. # [10:34] <Ms2ger> Some add-on that tries to extract the main text and formats it nicely?
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  1241. # [10:37] <NeilAway> no, it doesn't
  1242. # [10:37] <NeilAway> in fact, it probably returns false
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  1245. # [10:39] <NeilAway> although it used to until very recently
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  1247. # [10:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> if its this, its and old addon it seems https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/readability/
  1248. # [10:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Released October 2, 2012
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  1260. # [10:53] <NeilAway> Ms2ger/Tomcat: ta
  1261. # [10:54] <Ms2ger> Np
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  1265. # [10:57] <Ms2ger> Until tomorrow, yes
  1266. # [10:57] <Gijs> aha
  1267. # [10:57] <Gijs> In the meantime, anyone know anything about bug 934713 ?
  1268. # [10:58] * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen
  1269. # [10:58] * Gijs can only do clobber builds on Windows now, and that's no fun
  1270. # [10:58] <@khuey> I'm sure bugzilla does
  1271. # [10:58] <Gijs> :(
  1272. # [10:58] <@khuey> Gijs: just use pymake directly?
  1273. # [10:59] * Gijs is using mozmake
  1274. # [10:59] <Gijs> gnu make
  1275. # [10:59] <Gijs> whatever it's called these days
  1276. # [10:59] <@khuey> Gijs: just use mozmake directly?
  1277. # [10:59] <Gijs> how?
  1278. # [10:59] <@khuey> the way you did before mach?
  1279. # [10:59] <Gijs> "someone" removed all the documentation as to how that works
  1280. # [10:59] <@khuey> lol
  1281. # [10:59] <@khuey> mozmake -C objdir/browser ?
  1282. # [11:00] <@khuey> it would be kinda nice if mach worked in windows somewhat reliably
  1283. # [11:00] <Gijs> kinda, yeah
  1284. # [11:00] <Gijs> or really, any part of the build
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  1287. # [11:01] <Ms2ger> Gijs, sorry ;)
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  1289. # [11:02] * Gijs wouldn't even need Windows if it wasn't for a test that requires the menubar to be present, and so he can't run it on OS X
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  1291. # [11:02] <Ms2ger> Linux? ;)
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  1295. # [11:04] <Gijs> is in a VM and still slower to build than a Windows clobber build
  1296. # [11:04] <Gijs> although not by much
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  1298. # [11:04] <Gijs> (ok, well, about 2x, so actually...)
  1299. # [11:04] <twi> what does ./mach python -c "import mach; print mach.__file__" print?
  1300. # [11:05] <Gijs> twi: I'm about halfway through that clobber build now, so I can tell you in about 15 minutes. :(
  1301. # [11:05] <Gijs> twi: interestingly, "./mach build" after a build fails. "./mach clobber && ./mach build" works.
  1302. # [11:05] <twi> fun
  1303. # [11:05] <Gijs> yup
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  1306. # [11:06] <twi> (./mach clobber still deletes $PWD for me, after i moved my m-c repo)
  1307. # [11:06] * Gijs runs stuff from srcdir
  1308. # [11:06] <Gijs> so thankfully it doesn't do that...
  1309. # [11:06] <twi> same.
  1310. # [11:07] <Gijs> So wait, you run ./mach clobber from srcdir and it nukes your srcdir?
  1311. # [11:07] <twi> yup
  1312. # [11:07] <twi> well, that happened a couple of times, now i just rm -rf the objdir
  1313. # [11:07] <Gijs> Did you file that? :|
  1314. # [11:07] <twi> and yeah, i lost code
  1315. # [11:07] <twi> not really
  1316. # [11:07] <twi> i figured it was my fault for moving m-c, or something
  1317. # [11:08] <Ms2ger> That sounds... bad
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  1320. # [11:10] <nigelb> 52
  1321. # [11:10] <nigelb> (gah)
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  1326. # [11:14] <glandium> twi: was your objdir your srcdir?
  1327. # [11:15] <glandium> sfink: ping
  1328. # [11:16] <mcsmurf> has someone seen/heard of such a build failure lately? "No module named 'mozbuild.action.cl'" on Windows using pymake
  1329. # [11:17] <mcsmurf> though this might be some comm-central issue again :O
  1330. # [11:17] <twi> glandium no
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  1332. # [11:17] <glandium> mcsmurf: sigh
  1333. # [11:17] <twi> i looked briefly into the issue at some point, it seems that it uses a relative path in some json path
  1334. # [11:17] <twi> so i'm lucky it didn't nuke my whole ~src directory
  1335. # [11:18] <glandium> jcranmer|away: when the fsck is c-c finally going to move under m-c?
  1336. # [11:18] <mcsmurf> glandium: well, I dont know ;) just looking around and trying to find out why mozbuild does not like what I do..
  1337. # [11:18] <twi> *json file
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  1340. # [11:18] <mcsmurf> or I could use the new make
  1341. # [11:21] <glandium> mcsmurf: file a bug that bug 585011 broke running pymake manually
  1342. # [11:22] <glandium> (which, arguably, pseudo derecurse already did, but pseudo derecurse is explicitely disabled on c-c)
  1343. # [11:22] <mcsmurf> hmm
  1344. # [11:22] <glandium> mcsmurf: you can work around that by running pymake with objdir/_virtualenv/Scripts/python.exe
  1345. # [11:23] <glandium> (which you can'd do until configure ran)
  1346. # [11:23] <mcsmurf> I would also use "mach" if I can
  1347. # [11:23] <mcsmurf> but then "mach" does not work with c-c very well ;)
  1348. # [11:23] <mcsmurf> ok
  1349. # [11:24] <glandium> mcsmurf: it mostly boils down to c-c not being under m-c yet, and the more it doesn't happen, the more i'm pissed
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  1353. # [11:25] <mcsmurf> thanks, objdir/_virtualenv/Scripts/python.exe trick worked
  1354. # [11:26] <glandium> mcsmurf: mmmm that being said, what does normal_pymake -C objdir echo-variable-PYTHON_SITE_PACKAGES say
  1355. # [11:26] <mcsmurf> c:\mozilla\tree-hg\objdirs\seamonkey-objdir\mozilla\_virtualenv\Lib\site-packages
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  1361. # [11:27] <glandium> mcsmurf: is there a mozbuid.pth file in that directory?
  1362. # [11:27] <mcsmurf> and to get it working I executed
  1363. # [11:27] <mcsmurf> mozilla/_virtualenv/Scripts/python.exe ../../comm-central/build/pymake/make.py -C
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  1365. # [11:27] <mcsmurf> (I was inside objdir at this time)
  1366. # [11:27] <glandium> mcsmurf: c-c/build/pymake/make.py? not c-c/mozilla/build/pymake/make.py?
  1367. # [11:28] <mcsmurf> glandium: it's a wrapper, I was lazy :)
  1368. # [11:28] <mcsmurf> that one make.py calls the other make.py
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  1371. # [11:29] <mcsmurf> ok, yes
  1372. # [11:29] <mcsmurf> inside site-packages there is a mozbuild.pth file
  1373. # [11:29] <glandium> mcsmurf: does that point to a valid place?
  1374. # [11:29] <mcsmurf> whoa, let me see.. ("..\..\..\..\..\..\comm-central\mozilla\python\mozbuild")
  1375. # [11:29] <mcsmurf> yes it does
  1376. # [11:30] <mcsmurf> ends up in "/c/mozilla/tree-hg/comm-central/mozilla/python/mozbuild"
  1377. # [11:30] <glandium> mcsmurf: ok. does build/pymake/pymake/process.py contain a line saying site.addsitedir ?
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  1379. # [11:31] <mcsmurf> btw: for "pymake" I use "alias pymake=C:/mozilla/tree-hg/comm-central/mozilla/build/pymake/make.py"
  1380. # [11:31] <mcsmurf> so the "real" pymake
  1381. # [11:32] <mcsmurf> glandium: in mozilla-central?
  1382. # [11:32] <mcsmurf> I see something like
  1383. # [11:32] <mcsmurf> for p in path:
  1384. # [11:32] <mcsmurf> site.addsitedir(p)
  1385. # [11:32] <mcsmurf> maybe I should just file a now ;)
  1386. # [11:32] <mcsmurf> bug
  1387. # [11:33] <glandium> mcsmurf: that should work :(
  1388. # [11:33] <mcsmurf> hmm
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  1391. # [11:34] <glandium> mcsmurf: i added that explicitely for pymake to work without virtualenv
  1392. # [11:35] <glandium> mcsmurf: and i'm sure it worked for me, so i guess you'd need to figure what's happening on your machine that makes it fail
  1393. # [11:35] <mcsmurf> I see..
  1394. # [11:35] <mcsmurf> when did you last test that it still works?
  1395. # [11:35] <Gijs> Of course, now ./mach build foo just works? :s
  1396. # [11:35] <Gijs> magic...
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  1401. # [11:35] <mcsmurf> Gijs: I'm inside comm-central
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  1403. # [11:36] <mcsmurf> there mach is not working that well
  1404. # [11:36] <mcsmurf> mozilla/mach build actually also breaks with that error
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  1406. # [11:36] <Gijs> mcsmurf: yeah, I'm talking about the bug I mentioned earlier, not about c-c
  1407. # [11:36] <mcsmurf> ok, I was not here when you said that ;)
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  1420. # [11:49] <Yoric> Does anyone around here have contacts at Facebook?
  1421. # [11:49] <Yoric> We have a report of the Facebook site spamming sessionstore.js with what looks like stale data.
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  1423. # [11:50] <Yoric> Which eventually leads to a 3s jank when writing sessionstore.js (that's every ~15 seconds).
  1424. # [11:50] <gaston> (ie https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669034#c70)
  1425. # [11:51] <gaston> the analysis is pretty cool
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  1427. # [11:52] <mcsmurf> there's bug 759986
  1428. # [11:52] <mcsmurf> facebook meta bug
  1429. # [11:52] <mcsmurf> maybe you can get a contact out of there?
  1430. # [11:52] <gaston> heh facebook itself deserves a metabug :)
  1431. # [11:52] <Yoric> :)
  1432. # [11:52] <mcsmurf> and then there's a browser-bugs [at] fb.com bugzilla contact
  1433. # [11:52] <nigelb> aren't there enough mozillians at facebook? :)
  1434. # [11:52] <mcsmurf> but than one is only used for bugs in the browser I think ;)
  1435. # [11:53] <mcsmurf> that
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  1437. # [11:54] <Yoric> gavin: Any idea?
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  1440. # [11:55] <@khuey> ask one of the 20 or so former mozilla employees that work there?
  1441. # [11:55] <Ms2ger> Just 20?
  1442. # [11:56] <@khuey> may be a low estimate
  1443. # [11:56] <Yoric> Do we have a list of alumni at hand?
  1444. # [11:56] <nigelb> we should have a group on mozillians.
  1445. # [11:56] <Ms2ger> Well, are they still Mozillians? :)
  1446. # [11:57] <nigelb> I thought it was once a mozillian, always a mozillian!
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  1449. # [11:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6fe3a73c35d8 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 934485 - Remove unused ProxyOptions::forceForegroundFinalization() r=terrence
  1450. # [11:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/94032114aaf5 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 844768 - Make JSRuntime::gcNumArenasFreeCommitted atomic r=billm
  1451. # [11:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa71e5360811 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 927939 - Wrappers for nursery allocated objects should be finalized in the background r=terrence
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  1457. # [12:01] <Yoric> No Facebook group.
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  1459. # [12:02] <mcsmurf> gaston: btw I have an idea why it (pymake) does not work me properly, I'm going to check that; I use NTFS symlinks to redirect my objdir
  1460. # [12:02] <mcsmurf> I remember seeing a strange problem related to that a few weeks ago
  1461. # [12:03] <gaston> mcsmurf: itym glandium
  1462. # [12:03] <mcsmurf> where it was not able to resolve that symlink properly
  1463. # [12:03] <mcsmurf> right :D
  1464. # [12:03] <mcsmurf> glandium:^^
  1465. # [12:04] <mcsmurf> need to see if absolute objdirs actually work again now
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  1467. # [12:04] <mcsmurf> as this was the reason why I used symlinks in the first place
  1468. # [12:04] <mcsmurf> this was broken some time ago
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  1471. # [12:05] <mcsmurf> ah FIXED it says (Bug 907642)
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  1480. # [12:08] <glandium> huh "Disk writes to sessionstore.js over an 8 hour day: 15,029,402,880 bytes (15 GB)"
  1481. # [12:09] <glandium> that's a lot of data to write on a ssd...
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  1484. # [12:09] <bkero> Wonder how much of that gets synced out to disk
  1485. # [12:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/75d5fed1950e - Felix S. Klock II - Bug 932796: Fix ThrowError call (r=nmatsakis).
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  1489. # [12:12] <glandium> wtf? 100k storage for https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/mobile-firefox-dev/2013-November/000329.html ?
  1490. # [12:12] <glandium> (the about:sessionstorage addon is nice, btw)
  1491. # [12:12] <glandium> huh, hover says it's storage for google.co.jp O_o
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  1495. # [12:14] <glandium> many tabs with storage, around 100k for most, and *all* storage for google.{com,co.jp}
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  1499. # [12:16] <glandium> "You are about to close 475 tabs. Are you sure you want to continue?"
  1500. # [12:17] <glandium> see you in 10 minutes
  1501. # [12:17] <glandium> ah no, that was fast
  1502. # [12:17] * glandium is impressed
  1503. # [12:17] <Ms2ger> Shutdown crash?
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  1505. # [12:17] <glandium> Ms2ger: "close tabs to the right"
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  1510. # [12:19] <@khuey> how bad was the GC paiuse?
  1511. # [12:19] <@khuey> *pause even
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  1514. # [12:19] <glandium> khuey: the browser froze for a few seconds, but it's nowhere as bad as it used to be
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  1518. # [12:21] <@khuey> cool
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  1532. # [12:39] <decoder> glandium: i saw my patch failing with msvc. would you care to explain why it does?
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  1534. # [12:40] <decoder> the error isnt really helpful
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  1536. # [12:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cbd97422f174 - Philipp Kewisch - Fix bug 927073 - Binary compatibility broken for maintenance releases due to strict version-script - regression fix. r=glandium
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  1538. # [12:42] <decoder> glandium: because of the -frtti?
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  1542. # [12:46] <glandium> decoder: yes
  1543. # [12:48] <decoder> glandium: okay. I just saw for msvc it's /GR (or /GR- to disable rtti)
  1544. # [12:48] <decoder> what would you suggest to do?
  1545. # [12:48] <glandium> decoder: add the right flag depending on the compiler
  1546. # [12:49] <decoder> okay. thats easy, ill do that
  1547. # [12:49] <decoder> just thought that'd be too hackish
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  1550. # [12:51] <decoder> glandium: do you want to review afterwards? or should I flag ted instead?
  1551. # [12:51] <glandium> decoder: flag ted, so that you'll have two pair of eyes looking at it
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  1553. # [12:52] <decoder> alright :)
  1554. # [12:52] <decoder> thx
  1555. # [12:52] <till> uh oh, I think I broke the status board
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  1562. # [12:56] <decoder> philor|away: i am not sure, but could it be that the asan-bc failure is bug 926674? the only thing missing is the 330 seconds without output message.. but it's the same test failing, with the same other symptoms. and it's not frequent at all, but gets more frequent if I backout my oom patch (which increases memory pressure)
  1563. # [12:59] <till> bsmedberg-away: ping-when-you're-awake
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  1566. # [13:05] <NeilAway> bah, async scrolling is so unresponsive :s
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  1578. # [13:19] <Optimizer> I am right now behind a proxy internet... so not able to pull via ssh :|
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  1580. # [13:19] <Optimizer> anyone knows how to teach hg to use the proxy settings ?
  1581. # [13:20] <Gijs> Optimizer: if you're just pulling, why not pull using https?
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  1583. # [13:21] <Optimizer> using https ?
  1584. # [13:21] <Optimizer> that is what I am doing
  1585. # [13:22] <Optimizer> let me try http (if that what you meant)
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  1587. # [13:23] <Optimizer> yeah http works ..
  1588. # [13:24] <Optimizer> any idea, how to make ssl work ?
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  1593. # [13:25] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: will now the merges
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  1595. # [13:26] <ttaubert> Optimizer: http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/hgrc.5.html#http-proxy
  1596. # [13:27] <Optimizer> ttaubert: this does not say anything for ssl
  1597. # [13:27] <Optimizer> or does it ?
  1598. # [13:27] <ttaubert> why should it? it's just using a proxy
  1599. # [13:28] <Optimizer> so when I add the proxy settings, http(s) works .
  1600. # [13:28] <Optimizer> I can pull via https
  1601. # [13:28] <Optimizer> but not via ssl
  1602. # [13:28] <Optimizer> which in turn means, I cannot push or try
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  1604. # [13:29] <mcsmurf> so what's the way to use the new mozmake/GNU make on WindĂźws
  1605. # [13:29] <mcsmurf> ?
  1606. # [13:29] <mcsmurf> I guess I need to manually download the new GNU make as there is no updated mozillabuild yet?
  1607. # [13:29] <ttaubert> Optimizer: you mean ssh?
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  1609. # [13:30] <mcsmurf> hm Bug 927213 says so
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  1611. # [13:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a0eb4732bcf9 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge fx-team to mozilla-central
  1612. # [13:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f0ccd1e58b7f - Errietta Kostala - Bug 910768 - Add a link to the marketplace in the "No apps installed for this url" toast; r=wesj
  1613. # [13:32] <Optimizer> ttaubert: yes
  1614. # [13:33] <ttaubert> Optimizer: I think this should go somewhere in your .ssh/config then
  1615. # [13:33] <ttaubert> I don't know exactly how though
  1616. # [13:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d1ea27ce8789 - Olli Pettay - Bug 934788 - Faster selector matching for attribute selectors by not counting the number of attributes, r=bz
  1617. # [13:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/070eda490577 - Olli Pettay - Bug 933070, MessageManager should use nsTObserverArray, r=fabrice
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  1619. # [13:36] <@smaug> this kind of try results are always suspicious https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=6f96c09bad57
  1620. # [13:36] <@khuey> ha
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  1623. # [13:40] <Optimizer> smaug: enjoy while you can .
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  1629. # [13:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba666d2dbb97 - Jonas Finnemann Jensen - Bug 902587 - Part 2A: Refactor late-write-checks as client of IO Interposer. r=BenWa
  1630. # [13:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b7b720064c9d - Steve Singer - Bug 885002 - Fix casting on 64 bit Big Endian platforms. r=cpearce
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  1641. # [14:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/834b35ebbce7 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 932322 - Make Window's WebIDL properties be own properties of window. r=bz.
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  1660. # [14:21] <Yoric> smacleod: I seem to remember that there is a bug for removing the synchronous fallback init for session restore. Do you have the bug# in mind?
  1661. # [14:22] * @khuey needs to figure out how to get RyanVM to herd and land all his patches
  1662. # [14:22] <Yoric> Ah, got it.
  1663. # [14:23] <Yoric> smacleod: unping
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  1677. # [14:32] <Gijs> is nightly crashing when trying to run it from xcode a known issue?
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  1680. # [14:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c9eb4218558d - Chris Lord - Bug 932278 - Remove the long-defunct gfxPlatform::UseReusableTileStore. r=BenWa
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  1704. # [14:50] <Optimizer> why does I always have to perform a "mach configure" before "mach build" ?
  1705. # [14:50] <Optimizer> :(
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  1707. # [14:50] <Optimizer> (while doing a clobber build)
  1708. # [14:50] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mcsmurf: regarding mozbuild, RyanVM is the best person to ask
  1709. # [14:50] * RyanVM runs
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  1711. # [14:52] <Ms2ger> Hah
  1712. # [14:52] <Ms2ger> Optimizer, that should happen automatically
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  1714. # [14:52] <Optimizer> its not
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  1717. # [14:53] <mcsmurf> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ok, thanks; I already found out mozillabuild 1.9 will include the new make
  1718. # [14:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/013c9b686c9b - Jonathan Kew - bug 797405 - use harfbuzz on Windows for all text shaping except Hangul. r=jdaggett
  1719. # [14:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4f335f65678 - Jonathan Kew - bug 797405 - adjust reftest annotations to account for switch from uniscribe/directwrite to harfbuzz for indic shaping. r=jdaggett
  1720. # [14:55] <Ms2ger> File a bug
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  1723. # [14:56] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: i've run into some fun new build bustage
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  1725. # [14:56] <RyanVM> apparently --enable-optimize causes repeatable bustage around libvpx
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  1727. # [14:56] <Ms2ger> Woo
  1728. # [14:56] <RyanVM> at least -O2 -GLS does (MSVC)
  1729. # [14:57] <RyanVM> something about too many items in a list or something
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  1741. # [15:02] <Yoric> smacleod: re-ping – what's the status of the startup/shutdown crash monitor?
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  1754. # [15:08] <Yoric> Does anyone know of powertop-like tools for Windows and MacOS X? I want to measure whether some change has an impact on battery usage.
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  1756. # [15:08] <@khuey> bah
  1757. # [15:08] * @khuey shakes his fist at Tomcat|sheriffduty
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  1760. # [15:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> oh no :)
  1761. # [15:09] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> khuey: what did i do :)
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  1763. # [15:09] <froydnj> it's the hueyshake!
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  1766. # [15:09] <@khuey> Tomcat|sheriffduty: merge stuff to m-i in the middle of my rebase
  1767. # [15:09] <@khuey> so now I have to rebase again :-P
  1768. # [15:09] <Gijs> bholley: halp! :(
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  1770. # [15:09] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> sorry :)
  1771. # [15:10] <Gijs> bholley: I tried to do what you suggested, and it compiles and links, but yields a busted browser on startup. I've been trying to debug, but xcode makes Firefox crash on startup. :\
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  1775. # [15:11] <@khuey> Tomcat|sheriffduty: it would be less annoying if git rebase weren't so slow
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  1779. # [15:12] <Gijs> bholley: I'm seeing JS errors complaining about redeclaration of Cc/Cu consts, so I suspect that the target implementation (ie load the script with the parameter as the global object in the script's scope) is somehow bust with the changes I've made... just not sure how to figure out what the problem is. Patch: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3429329
  1780. # [15:12] <bholley> Gijs: you debug with Xcode?
  1781. # [15:12] * bholley wasn't aware that was possible
  1782. # [15:12] <Gijs> bholley: I do normally, yeah
  1783. # [15:13] <Gijs> There's an MDN page about it
  1784. # [15:13] <Gijs> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Debugging_on_Mac_OS_X
  1785. # [15:13] <bholley> Gijs: was the previous iteration of this patch non-busted?
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  1787. # [15:13] <Gijs> it wouldn't compile. ;)
  1788. # [15:13] <Gijs> I mean, the one you r-'d was non-busted, yes
  1789. # [15:14] <Gijs> the one with compile errors, well, I don't know, because compile errors. :)
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  1791. # [15:15] <Gijs> bholley: if I had to guess, I don't trust the suggestion to take out the if (options.target) thing and always initialize targetObj with it, but that's in part because I don't understand the distinctions between all the different JS object incantations.
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  1794. # [15:16] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: 9:31.98 Finished generating code
  1795. # [15:16] <RyanVM> 9:31.98
  1796. # [15:16] <RyanVM> 9:32.05 Too many sections
  1797. # [15:16] <RyanVM> 9:32.05 c:\mozbuild\src\mozilla-central\objdir-fx-64\media\libvpx\Makefile:433:0: command './host_obj_int_extract.exe g
  1798. # [15:16] <RyanVM> as asm_enc_offsets.obj \
  1799. # [15:16] <RyanVM> 9:32.05 > asm_enc_offsets.asm' failed, return code 1
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  1801. # [15:17] <RyanVM> neato, eh?
  1802. # [15:17] <RyanVM> I'm guessing it's /GL it doesn't like
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  1806. # [15:18] * Ms2ger covers his ears
  1807. # [15:18] <Ms2ger> lalalalalalala can't hear you!
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  1814. # [15:21] <bholley> Gijs: oh
  1815. # [15:21] <jcranmer> glandium: at this point, it's dependent on when I can get aide from releng
  1816. # [15:21] <bholley> Gijs: so, right after the declaration of targetObj
  1817. # [15:21] <bholley> Gijs: we pass it to FindTargetObject
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  1822. # [15:22] <Gijs> bholley: right
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  1824. # [15:22] <glandium> RyanVM: where do you see that?
  1825. # [15:22] <glandium> jcranmer: sigh
  1826. # [15:22] <RyanVM> glandium: my local build
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  1828. # [15:23] <RyanVM> win64 with --enable-optimize="-O2 -GLS"
  1829. # [15:23] * kanru|away is now known as kanru
  1830. # [15:23] <glandium> RyanVM: ah yeah, not supported
  1831. # [15:23] <RyanVM> what's not supported?
  1832. # [15:24] <glandium> RyanVM: passing -GL in optimize flags
  1833. # [15:24] <RyanVM> funny, it's literally worked for years
  1834. # [15:24] <glandium> RyanVM: you can file a bug
  1835. # [15:24] <glandium> RyanVM: on that particular thing it's not supported
  1836. # [15:24] <RyanVM> i'm also curious if win64 pgo builds would be busted too if we made them
  1837. # [15:24] <jcranmer> glandium: my sentiments exactly
  1838. # [15:24] <RyanVM> since pgo uses GL
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  1840. # [15:25] <glandium> RyanVM: iirc there's a ifdef for pgo
  1841. # [15:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22c5b68ae2e9 - Kyle Huey - Bug 919885: Move Worker to WebIDL and thread-agnostic event dispatch. r=bent,bz
  1842. # [15:25] <froydnj> jcranmer: what are you blocked on?
  1843. # [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aab2a2b73b90 - Kyle Huey - Bug 933099: Banish <windows.h> from nsGlobalWindow.cpp. r=bz
  1844. # [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e66e7007223 - Kyle Huey - Bug 928312: Convert the worker global object and all remaining EventTargets to new DOM bindings. r=bent,peterv,smaug
  1845. # [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/092df4b7af99 - Kyle Huey - Bug 925531: Worker URL harmonization. r=bent
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  1847. # [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/599442dc0da7 - Kyle Huey - Bug 932154: Define postRILMessage with the right argument count. r=vicamo
  1848. # [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/782ffc958634 - Kyle Huey - Bug 934785: Only change the popup control state on the main thread. r=smaug
  1849. # [15:25] <jcranmer> froydnj: getting releng hookedup for the new model so I can verify that I haven't broken anything on the three platforms we build on
  1850. # [15:25] <@khuey> \o/
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  1852. # [15:26] <Ms2ger> khuey, ping
  1853. # [15:26] * RyanVM preeemptively clobbers inbound
  1854. # [15:26] <glandium> RyanVM: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/media/libvpx/Makefile.in#422
  1855. # [15:26] <@khuey> Ms2ger: pong
  1856. # [15:26] <Ms2ger> khuey, nah, just kidding ;)
  1857. # [15:26] <@khuey> hah
  1858. # [15:26] <froydnj> jcranmer: what's the "new model"?
  1859. # [15:26] <@khuey> RyanVM: have we still not fixed that shit?
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  1861. # [15:26] <RyanVM> khuey: nope, just as busted as ever
  1862. # [15:26] <@khuey> RyanVM: le sigh
  1863. # [15:26] <RyanVM> glandium: nice
  1864. # [15:27] <@khuey> RyanVM: are you going to push an update to CLOBBER or should I?
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  1866. # [15:27] <Gijs> bholley: oh. So FindTargetObject always returns the global object, or the loader's global, so it's guaranteed to overwrite the value we initialize it with?
  1867. # [15:27] <jcranmer> froydnj: cc-rework
  1868. # [15:27] <RyanVM> khuey: meh, I just clobber every tree before merging as standard practice now
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  1870. # [15:27] <@khuey> hah
  1871. # [15:27] <@khuey> ok then
  1872. # [15:27] <jcranmer> froydnj: building c-c under m-c
  1873. # [15:27] * @khuey leaves the file alone
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  1875. # [15:27] <glandium> RyanVM: we'd need something similar to disable optimization for those files. That's also required for other things iirc, so that would probably be useful
  1876. # [15:27] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, so who do I stab to speed this up? ;)
  1877. # [15:28] <@khuey> Gijs: bholley was not in channel for that last ?
  1878. # [15:28] <glandium> Ms2ger: releng, apparently
  1879. # [15:28] <Gijs> khuey: yeah, I just realized.
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  1881. # [15:28] <bholley> Gijs: sorry, super flakey train wifi
  1882. # [15:28] <Gijs> khuey: I have joins/parts hidden here... maybe I shouldn't.
  1883. # [15:28] <jcranmer> Ms2ger, glandium: I have the twig checked out, I just need to get it reconfig'd
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  1885. # [15:28] <Gijs> bholley: that's OK, I've been there. Welcome to Europe. :)
  1886. # [15:29] <Gijs> bholley: oh. So FindTargetObject always returns the global object, or the loader's global, so it's guaranteed to overwrite the value we initialize it with?
  1887. # [15:29] <bholley> Gijs: I would imagine so - i haven't checked
  1888. # [15:29] <Gijs> bholley: yeah, I just looked at the source for FindTargetObject
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  1890. # [15:30] <Gijs> bholley: so should I maybe if (options.target) { RootedObject targetObj(cx, options.target); } else { /* the findtargetobject path */ } ?
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  1892. # [15:31] <bholley> Gijs: why not just RootedObject target(obj, cx, options.target; if (!target) { /* the findtargetobject path */ } ?
  1893. # [15:31] <froydnj> decoder: thanks for poking at the icu configury!
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  1895. # [15:31] <RyanVM> glandium: filed bug 934984
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  1898. # [15:32] <Gijs> bholley: if that initializer returns null if options.target is null, sure
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  1900. # [15:32] <bholley> Gijs: 'that initializer'?
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  1902. # [15:32] <bholley> Gijs: RootedObject(cx, null) will provide something that evaluates to null, yes
  1903. # [15:32] <Gijs> bholley: right, that's what I meant :)
  1904. # [15:33] * Gijs apologizes for his bad cpp terminology
  1905. # [15:33] <bz> Gijs: so Window is pretty likely
  1906. # [15:33] <bz> Gijs: if try confirms that, I'll poke at specific methods, probably...
  1907. # [15:33] <Gijs> bz: yeah, that's what I thought... still no idea what's up that triggers it so specifically in one place and another, though
  1908. # [15:34] <bz> Gijs: well, so the most obvious options are either that an argument with no default started passing "not passed" and the callee is broken
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  1911. # [15:34] <bz> Gijs: or that an argument _with_ a default is now getting the default and callee is broken
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  1917. # [15:36] <Gijs> bz: hrm.
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  1919. # [15:37] <Gijs> bz: so, just to be sure, when you say the callee is broken, you're saying that something is calling window.whatever(whatever) and they break. Could the something be in C++ just as easy as JS? Or is this likely to be JS?
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  1923. # [15:37] <Gijs> bz: the difference ux vs. mc isn't unfathomable, I'm wondering if it's useful for me to go through a diff of just the frontend/compiled bits and look if I can find something.
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  1939. # [15:43] <bz> Gijs: when I say "callee" I mean the C++ implementation
  1940. # [15:44] <bz> Gijs: Unless we're in a rush, I say we keep narrowing it down via try and avoiding extensive human work
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  1942. # [15:44] <bz> Gijs: until we know which interface and method is involved
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  1944. # [15:44] <bz> Gijs: then we start looking more carefully
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  1947. # [15:45] <Gijs> bz: ah. Unless I'm mistaken (which is possible!) this bug is now pretty much the only landing blocker for the UX to mc merge.
  1948. # [15:45] <Gijs> bz: so, while I wouldn't say we're in an incredible rush, we are pretty anxious to get this resolved...
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  1958. # [15:48] <bz> Gijs: I see
  1959. # [15:49] <Gijs> bz: fwiw, I have two suspects, considering the test and the fact that this is on UX. One is window.getComputedStyle, one is window.open/openDialog
  1960. # [15:49] <bz> Gijs: let me think a sec
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  1965. # [15:50] <Gijs> the former because we use it for calculating the size of the titlebar and various other elements in the top of the browser frame, the latter because the test is opening a bunch of windows in various configurations.
  1966. # [15:50] <bz> So for getComputedStyle, the only difference would be if someone passed undefined for pseudoElt
  1967. # [15:50] <bz> and the change would be that hte old code threw and the new code uses ""
  1968. # [15:50] <bz> Seems unlikely
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  1970. # [15:51] <Gijs> bz: what if we passed null?
  1971. # [15:51] <bz> open() we could be replacing url/target/features that used to be the string "undefined" with ""
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  1973. # [15:51] <bz> Gijs: handling of null was not affecte
  1974. # [15:51] <Gijs> because IIRC we added code that does that.
  1975. # [15:51] <bz> er, affected
  1976. # [15:51] <Gijs> hrm
  1977. # [15:51] * Gijs looks to see if we pass undefined somewhere
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  1979. # [15:51] <bz> That said, passing null would throw
  1980. # [15:51] <bz> afaict
  1981. # [15:51] <bz> both before and after
  1982. # [15:51] <Gijs> huh?
  1983. # [15:51] <bz> the most common way of passing undefined is not the explicit string "undefined"
  1984. # [15:51] <Gijs> As the pseudo element value?
  1985. # [15:52] <bz> hmm
  1986. # [15:52] <bz> I would have thought so, yes
  1987. # [15:52] <bz> one sec
  1988. # [15:52] <Gijs> ah, when you said "passing undefined", would you also include not passing the second argument?
  1989. # [15:52] <bz> no
  1990. # [15:52] <bz> the behavior of not passing did not change
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  1992. # [15:53] <bz> but passing "foo.bar" when foo has no bar property....
  1993. # [15:53] <Gijs> ah, right
  1994. # [15:53] <bz> or stuff like function f(arg) { window.open(arg); } f()
  1995. # [15:53] <Gijs> right
  1996. # [15:53] <Gijs> hrm
  1997. # [15:53] <bz> If we hunt down the relevant API, I could probably just add something that logs the stack when undefined is passed
  1998. # [15:54] <Gijs> oh, hrm
  1999. # [15:54] <bz> And then we can see what the callers look like
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  2001. # [15:54] * Gijs has an idea
  2002. # [15:54] <bz> As in, I can DumpJSStack() in there
  2003. # [15:54] <Gijs> Right
  2004. # [15:54] * bz tries to figure out why passing undefined to getComputedStyle is not throwing
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  2012. # [15:56] <bz> Oh, because we silently ignor pseudo-elements that don't start with ':', awesome
  2013. # [15:56] <Gijs> hrm
  2014. # [15:56] <bz> er, silently ignore
  2015. # [15:56] <Gijs> so if we now pass ""
  2016. # [15:56] <Gijs> what happens?
  2017. # [15:56] <Gijs> (because AIUI that's what we'd be passing now, right?)
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  2021. # [15:57] <@bsmedberg> till: pong
  2022. # [15:57] <@bsmedberg> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ping
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  2024. # [15:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bsmedberg: pong
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  2026. # [15:58] <bz> Gijs: which API are we talking about right now?
  2027. # [15:58] <till> bsmedberg: the Status Board is broken
  2028. # [15:58] <@bsmedberg> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I have a question about the errors in bug 934774. I can't figure out whether the "this.markup is undefined" error is related to the TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL or is completely separate
  2029. # [15:59] <Gijs> bsmedberg: it's separate.
  2030. # [15:59] <@bsmedberg> are you the right person to ask, or is there somebody else who knows the test harness better?
  2031. # [15:59] <till> bsmedberg: earlier today, I tried to submit a status, and used preview twice (or three times) before it stopped working. Since then, preview and submit both don't work anymore
  2032. # [15:59] <Gijs> bsmedberg: that's a devtools related issue from another test
  2033. # [15:59] <Gijs> it's been there like forever
  2034. # [15:59] <RyanVM> bsmedberg: no
  2035. # [15:59] <RyanVM> it's a different bug
  2036. # [15:59] <RyanVM> just fixed on fx-team
  2037. # [15:59] <till> bsmedberg: with preview just doing nothing, and submit returning a 500 error
  2038. # [15:59] <RyanVM> bsmedberg: bug 934487
  2039. # [15:59] <bz> Gijs: the other possibility is webgl, btw
  2040. # [15:59] <Gijs> bz: still the getComputedStyle, because we call that without a second parameter, and you said we ignore stuff that doesn't start with ":". Don't know if that includes passing empty string
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  2042. # [16:00] <@bsmedberg> till: can you load the main page at all?
  2043. # [16:00] <Gijs> bz: yeah, I guess that'd be an interesting possibility
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  2046. # [16:00] <Gijs> bz: but the thing is, it borks in a browser test
  2047. # [16:00] <bz> Gijs: behavior of calling without a second param has not changed
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  2049. # [16:00] <bz> Gijs: both before and after the C++ would see an empty string
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  2051. # [16:00] <Gijs> ah.
  2052. # [16:00] <till> bsmedberg: yes, everything except preview and submit seems to work
  2053. # [16:00] <Gijs> bz: I'm 99.99% sure those tests don't invoke webgl
  2054. # [16:00] <bz> Gijs: Yeah
  2055. # [16:00] <Gijs> so it'd be pretty crazy if that broke this
  2056. # [16:00] <bz> Gijs: Window and WebGL are the only real contenders of those 5 interfaces, I think
  2057. # [16:01] <Gijs> I mean, it's already pretty crazy that this patch somehow crashes in this specific way
  2058. # [16:01] <Gijs> but hey
  2059. # [16:01] * Gijs likes to cling to the remnant of logic that seems to apply
  2060. # [16:01] <bz> (And of course the ones that bc runs haven't started for on try yet....)
  2061. # [16:01] <Gijs> heh
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  2063. # [16:01] <@bsmedberg> till: File "/home/bsmedberg/lib/python/markdown2.py", line 1727, in _form_paragraphs
  2064. # [16:01] <@bsmedberg> assert cuddled_list.startswith("<ul>") or cuddled_list.startswith("<ol>")
  2065. # [16:01] <@bsmedberg> AssertionError
  2066. # [16:01] <@bsmedberg> till: your markup is confusing the system
  2067. # [16:01] <till> huh
  2068. # [16:02] <decoder> froydnj: np. I dont have it working yet on windows though
  2069. # [16:02] <till> bsmedberg: maybe it doesn't like lists with partially-double-indented entries. I'll try removing those
  2070. # [16:02] <@bsmedberg> till: please file an issue at https://github.com/bsmedberg/mozilla-weekly-updates/issues with the text you're using
  2071. # [16:02] <till> bsmedberg: will do
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  2085. # [16:10] <@bsmedberg> Gijs: do you know what I'd break on in a debugger to catch the "uncaught exception" error from that test?
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  2088. # [16:11] <Gijs> bsmedberg: you'd toggle the "break on uncaught exceptions" switch in the debugger, presuming that exists for the browser debugger
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  2090. # [16:11] <@bsmedberg> Gijs: I mean gdb ;-)
  2091. # [16:12] <Gijs> bsmedberg: you're using the wrong tool.
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  2094. # [16:12] <@bsmedberg> the chances of getting a JS debugger to tell me useful things in browser-chrome tests is pretty low
  2095. # [16:12] <@bsmedberg> and binary debuggers are actually really good at telling JS stack traces
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  2098. # [16:12] * @bsmedberg often uses dump() as a breakpoint marker for tests
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  2103. # [16:13] <Gijs> bsmedberg: uh, what makes you say the first thing?
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  2105. # [16:14] <Gijs> bsmedberg: you know that you can just do ./mach mochitest-browser --jsdebugger, right?
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  2107. # [16:14] * Gijs posted to planet and fx-dev and m.d.platform, so kinda hoped everyone read it at least twice
  2108. # [16:14] <jdm> bsmedberg: maybe you could break on the onerror dispatch?
  2109. # [16:14] <@bsmedberg> Gijs: my experience has been that the JS debuggers affect the timing and have nested event loops that are bad enough to make them useless
  2110. # [16:14] <@bsmedberg> jdm: yeah... do you know where that lives?
  2111. # [16:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82c3097bb8b3 - Eddy Bruel - Bug 568953 - Back out obsolete module code; r=jorendorff
  2112. # [16:14] * jdm looks
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  2115. # [16:15] <Gijs> bsmedberg: sounds like you should use the --debug-on-failure/--break-on-failure thing that felipe added
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  2117. # [16:15] <@bsmedberg> Gijs: the problem is that by the time the onerror handler runs, the exception stack is gone
  2118. # [16:15] <Gijs> (still for the js debugger, though)
  2119. # [16:15] <jdm> bsmedberg: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsJSEnvironment.cpp#553 is relevant
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  2121. # [16:16] <jdm> the stack should be there, I think
  2122. # [16:16] <Gijs> bsmedberg: does the error object not have it?
  2123. # [16:16] <Gijs> it should...
  2124. # [16:16] <Gijs> onerror gets that object as an argument, right?
  2125. # [16:16] <@bsmedberg> it wasn't 6 month ago
  2126. # [16:16] <@bsmedberg> the webdev teams have been complaining about it mightily
  2127. # [16:16] <@bsmedberg> onerror not having useful stacks, that is
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  2129. # [16:16] <Gijs> right, and we fixed a bunch of bugs since 6 months ago
  2130. # [16:16] <Gijs> I should hope!
  2131. # [16:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b85a27bdccfe - Jonathan Kew - bug 797405 followup - mark reftest 553571-1 random rather than fails, as it may 'pass' on some systems without appropriate fonts. no_r=me+orange
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  2134. # [16:17] <jfkthame> edmorley|sheriffduty: fyi, i believe my push e4f335f65678 is going to have a reftest orange (unexpected pass) on b2g, and perhaps on android; the followup i've just pushed is to fix that
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  2136. # [16:18] <edmorley|sheriffduty> jfkthame: ok, thank you :-)
  2137. # [16:19] <Gijs> bsmedberg: in particular, we fixed a bunch of similar bugs about event handlers and observer listeners' errors being uncaught and not ending up anywhere
  2138. # [16:19] <@bsmedberg> that's good, but different
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  2140. # [16:19] * @bsmedberg is trying in a fiddle
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  2143. # [16:19] <Gijs> sure
  2144. # [16:19] <davidb> http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/million-lines-of-code/
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  2147. # [16:20] <Ms2ger> davidb, heh, camino
  2148. # [16:21] <froydnj> wait, what? the hd dvd player on xbox is 5 *million* lines of code?
  2149. # [16:21] <davidb> :)
  2150. # [16:21] <@bsmedberg> onerror function appears to still get (string error, string url, int line number)
  2151. # [16:21] <Gijs> :(
  2152. # [16:21] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, seems right
  2153. # [16:22] <@bsmedberg> so no stack, yeah
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  2157. # [16:24] <felipe> bug 355430 ?
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  2159. # [16:25] <bz> froydnj: is it done like those car systems?
  2160. # [16:25] <bz> froydnj: which are umpteen million lines of generated C?
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  2163. # [16:26] <froydnj> bz: dunno. it says "(just the player)", so...the gui? the codecs? the secret mini game so compelling we can't tell you about it?
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  2166. # [16:29] <froydnj> I mean, mars curiousity has 5 million
  2167. # [16:29] <froydnj> the avionics and online support for the 787 has 6.5 million
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  2169. # [16:29] <jcranmer> those numbers are mostly meaningless
  2170. # [16:30] <bz> avionics is likely like cars
  2171. # [16:30] <froydnj> since healthcare.gov has (supposedly) 500 million, I could agree with that :)
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  2174. # [16:31] <felipe> hm firebot ignored me, but bsmedberg: there's a note on mdn about that, pointing to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355430
  2175. # [16:31] <bz> ah, they have cars on here
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  2177. # [16:32] <bz> also, they claim firefox at 10 million?
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  2180. # [16:32] <bz> but chrome at 7?
  2181. # [16:32] <@bsmedberg> felipe: yeah, I know about the bug tree. Doesn't really help me right now though ;-)
  2182. # [16:32] <bz> I doubt
  2183. # [16:32] <archana77> !seen ted
  2184. # [16:32] <firebot> ted was last seen 3 days, 17 hours, 16 minutes and 43 seconds ago, saying 'TimAbraldes: yes, but not at this time of day :-P' in #developers.
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  2186. # [16:33] <Yoric> Well, if Chrome doesn't contain Webkit, it could effectively be much smaller than Firefox including Gecko.
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  2196. # [16:37] <bz> Yoric: mm... good question
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  2204. # [16:42] <philor> probably not a good sign of the day to come, when you close a tree before you even connect to IRC in the morning
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  2209. # [16:43] <edmorley|sheriffduty> philor: the spidermonkey failures?
  2210. # [16:43] <edmorley|sheriffduty> philor: had to refresh client, they've only just finished :-)
  2211. # [16:43] <philor> edmorley|sheriffduty: yeah, if it's just them, it's just them, if it's every browser build too...
  2212. # [16:43] <philor> see-also #jsapi
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  2216. # [16:45] <edmorley|sheriffduty> philor: there are two tier-1 SM jobs, sufficient to back out regardless
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  2265. # [17:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b77f7733578 - Eddy Bruel - Bug 568953 - Fix for regression introduced by 82c3097bb8b3 CLOSED TREE; r=me
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  2268. # [17:03] <@bsmedberg> philor: do you know when bug 934774 started happening? The only thing I checked in yesterday was backed out.
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  2308. # [17:16] <philor> bsmedberg: I don't know - I don't think we ignored it for days, but one of the things about ignoring failures is that you don't know, because you're ignoring them
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  2339. # [17:31] <reuben> http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/TimestampModExtension :O
  2340. # [17:31] <reuben> I wonder if this makes ccache happier
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  2345. # [17:33] <bz> reuben: why would this affect ccache?
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  2348. # [17:34] <reuben> bz: because when you |hg up| it touches files that haven't actually had their contents updated, so ccache doesn't pick them up
  2349. # [17:35] <bz> pick them up in what sense?
  2350. # [17:36] * bz didn't think ccache did anything with timestamps
  2351. # [17:36] <bz> Also, hg up doesn't touch files that didn't change, afaict
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  2353. # [17:36] <bz> What the linked extension does is this
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  2356. # [17:37] <bz> Say you start with a tree, file A has contents A1 and timestamp T1
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  2358. # [17:37] <bz> You update to a different revision; now file A has contents A2 and timestamp T2
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  2362. # [17:37] <bz> now you revert back to the revision you used to be at. Now A has contents A1 and timestamp T1
  2363. # [17:38] <reuben> as opposed to contents A1 and timestamp Tnow?
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  2365. # [17:38] <bz> yes
  2366. # [17:38] <reuben> hm
  2367. # [17:38] <bz> At least if I read the page right that's what it does
  2368. # [17:38] <bz> Which, I should note, would Totally Break Make
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  2370. # [17:39] <reuben> yes, I misunderstood the text.
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  2373. # [17:39] <reuben> but, if what you said about ccache is true, something is wrong with my setup
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  2376. # [17:39] <bz> what are the symptoms?
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  2378. # [17:40] <reuben> if I build, immediately clobber and build again, it takes 4 minutes. if I build, then pull a few revisions (<10, only a few files modified), it takes the normal ~20min to build again
  2379. # [17:40] <reuben> normal for clobbers, that is
  2380. # [17:40] <reuben> (or alternatively build, clobber, pull a few revisions)
  2381. # [17:40] <bz> hmm
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  2383. # [17:41] <bz> What does ccache -s tell you if you run before/after the latter case?
  2384. # [17:41] <bz> As in, are you getting no cache hits, or is it being slow in spite of cache hits?
  2385. # [17:41] <reuben> no cache hits
  2386. # [17:42] <bz> weird. :(
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  2388. # [17:42] <reuben> my hits:misses stats are usually 1:10
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  2394. # [17:42] <reuben> but I don't know if that's just because the tree really is changing quickly
  2395. # [17:43] <reuben> next time I do something like this I'll clear the stats and look more carefully
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  2397. # [17:43] <NeilAway> bz: the problem comes when I have a patch that applies to B2 and not B1 so I need to update twice to get the patch to merge :s
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  2404. # [17:47] <bz> reuben: also of interest would be the list of changed files
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  2409. # [17:48] <peterv> edmorley|sheriffduty: there's a bc orange in browser/devtools/webconsole/test/browser_webconsole_bug_632347_iterators_generators.js on WinXP opt that's caused by https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/834b35ebbce7
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  2411. # [17:48] <edmorley|sheriffduty> peterv: thank you, I'll back out
  2412. # [17:48] <peterv> edmorley|sheriffduty: I already upped the timeout for it after talking to the devtools guys, but apparentlyit needs more time
  2413. # [17:49] <peterv> edmorley|sheriffduty: well, I'd rather up it more, I think khuey's stuff conflicts with that patch
  2414. # [17:49] <RyanVM> peterv: man, that test does not like you
  2415. # [17:49] <peterv> yeah
  2416. # [17:49] <peterv> it sucks
  2417. # [17:49] <RyanVM> (BTW, it's hitting on linux32 as well again)
  2418. # [17:49] <peterv> I think they should rewrite the test
  2419. # [17:49] <edmorley|sheriffduty> peterv: if we're happy we know why it needs so much more time
  2420. # [17:49] <edmorley|sheriffduty> then yeah
  2421. # [17:49] <peterv> but they don't seem willing
  2422. # [17:50] <peterv> edmorley|sheriffduty: yeah, they're looking at all properties of a window object, and I just made 100+ more properties
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  2424. # [17:50] <peterv> edmorley|sheriffduty: they should only be looking at the ones they want, but I can't figure out their test infrastructure to do that for them
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  2426. # [17:51] <peterv> the advice I got was "up the timeout"
  2427. # [17:51] <peterv> edmorley|sheriffduty: so I'll check that in, right?
  2428. # [17:51] <edmorley|sheriffduty> peterv: sure :-)
  2429. # [17:51] <edmorley|sheriffduty> peterv: you'll need to append "CLOSED TREE" to the commit message
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  2431. # [17:52] <Swatinem> RyanVM: so you like the new tbpl performance? :-)
  2432. # [17:52] <RyanVM> so far, so good
  2433. # [17:53] <Swatinem> edmorley|sheriffduty: was just going through some old bugs, are 568396 and 686619 still relevant or can I close them?
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  2441. # [17:54] <mconley> bz: ping
  2442. # [17:55] <firebot> Check-in:
  2443. # [17:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c6ebee99e089 - Peter Van der Beken - Give browser/devtools/webconsole/test/browser_webconsole_bug_632347_iterators_generators.js more time to finish, since it's looking at all window's own properties
  2444. # [17:55] <firebot> (which takes longer as a result of bug 932322). CLOSED TREE.
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  2447. # [17:55] <Gijs> mconley, bz: I mean, I *think* direct access to a 10.6 machine would help, but if we're unlucky we'd still be jumping hoops in terms of getting stuff to run
  2448. # [17:55] <abr> Does anyone know who I should tag for a review of a bug in a l10n file?
  2449. # [17:55] <abr> (Or how I would find out)
  2450. # [17:56] <Gijs> mconley, bz: although IIRC my local builds use the 10.6 SDK, but they're really crashy atm :|
  2451. # [17:56] <mconley> Gijs / bz: was just wondering if it'd help close the feedback loop some
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  2455. # [17:56] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Swatinem: looking
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  2457. # [17:57] <RyanVM> lol, WTH is MozillaTest?
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  2461. # [17:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> both of those look to be obsolete to me
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  2463. # [17:58] <bz> mconley: ack
  2464. # [17:58] <bz> Gijs: doing one more try push
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  2467. # [17:59] <edmorley> Swatinem: marked them closed, thank you :-)
  2468. # [17:59] <Swatinem> edmorley: thank you :-)
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  2470. # [17:59] <mconley> bz: well, just let me know if remote access to a 10.6 mac mini is useful, and I'll make that happen. :)
  2471. # [17:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> edmorley: updated the etherpad based on what I believe to be the case4
  2472. # [17:59] <bz> mconley: Will do
  2473. # [17:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> please check to make sure I understand correctly sine I haven't been watching too closely
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  2478. # [18:01] <edmorley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah that's correct :-)
  2479. # [18:01] <edmorley> trying to do too many things at once!
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  2490. # [18:04] <peterv> RyanVM|sheriffduty: if that test keeps failing I guess we can back me out again, but I'm pretty close to arguing for disabling the test
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  2500. # [18:08] <philor> oh, good thing someone remembered the tree was closed
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  2502. # [18:08] <bz> Gijs: so
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  2504. # [18:08] <Gijs> bz: so :)
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  2506. # [18:09] <bz> Gijs: I pushed https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=1d29175ddf22 on the assumption that Window is in fact the relevant thing
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  2509. # [18:09] <bz> Gijs: I could also push stuff to disable the change on a per-method basis...
  2510. # [18:09] <bz> Gijs: but at this point seeing which methods are called with explicit undefined seems easier, in the hope that there are not many calls
  2511. # [18:09] <bz> Gijs: Thoughts?
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  2515. # [18:10] <Gijs> bz: well, we still don't know how/why that test is triggering a crash
  2516. # [18:10] <Gijs> bz: and what it has to do with your patch
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  2518. # [18:10] <Gijs> bz: iirc you suggested that there was probably stack corruption somewhere
  2519. # [18:10] <Gijs> err
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  2522. # [18:10] <Gijs> s/stack/memory/ ?
  2523. # [18:10] <Gijs> maybe I'm confused.
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  2525. # [18:11] <Gijs> bz: I guess what I'm saying is, I'm not sure it'll be obvious from the calls which of them caused a crash somewhere in widgetland :s
  2526. # [18:11] <Gijs> mconley: do you know if it's easy to run a mochitest against an arbitrary binary?
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  2529. # [18:11] <bz> gijs: true
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  2531. # [18:12] <bz> gijs: so what I was hoping is to narrow down to a reasonably small set of C++ things to audit
  2532. # [18:12] <Gijs> right
  2533. # [18:12] <bz> gijs: and then audit them carefully to make sure they're sane
  2534. # [18:12] <mconley> Gijs / bz: I asked armen from releng how to do that, and I have some instructions on how we can pull it off
  2535. # [18:12] <Gijs> I would hope for that too
  2536. # [18:12] <mconley> Gijs / bz: haven't tried it yet, but we could do that
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  2538. # [18:12] <Gijs> mconley, bz: one sanity check thing we could do on the borrowed machine is grab a stock UX 10.6 build that has the issue and run only the crashing test
  2539. # [18:13] <Gijs> mconley, bz: I've been burned too often by tests that broke because tests before them changed something
  2540. # [18:13] <mconley> Gijs: ok, I'll get that set up.
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  2542. # [18:13] <Gijs> mconley, bz: if we can isolate the test, we could potentially even bisect the test (it tests a variety of scenarios, and it's possible that figuring out which one is problematic is helpful)
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  2546. # [18:15] <Gijs> bz: anyway, it's totally possible that in the debug build we can immediately see from the logs that right before the crash we call window.something in a way and that then crashes stuff... As another confirmation of hunches, I guess we could try push disabling the mechanism for just window.open
  2547. # [18:15] <Gijs> bz: would that make sense?
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  2549. # [18:15] <Gijs> bz: I mean, still going on hunches, obviously it could be something else on window, but considering the test in question window.open seems likely
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  2551. # [18:16] <bholley> so, I have a binary delta in git, and mercurial chokes on it - what do I do?
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  2553. # [18:16] <bholley> (mercurial chokes when I try to export it as a patch from git and import it as a patch in mercurial)
  2554. # [18:16] <Ms2ger> Copy the resulting file to a hg repo?
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  2556. # [18:16] <bholley> Ms2ger: yeah, I guess that's the braindead option
  2557. # [18:16] <bholley> Ms2ger: I'm somewhat mystified though
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  2559. # [18:17] <Ms2ger> Well, the braindead option is using git at all :)
  2560. # [18:17] <bholley> I've never had this problem before
  2561. # [18:17] <bholley> Ms2ger: ;-)
  2562. # [18:17] <bholley> I wonder if my hg is out of date? 2.5.1?
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  2564. # [18:17] <mbrubeck> bholley: Yeah, that's pretty old
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  2568. # [18:18] <bz> gijs: makes sense
  2569. # [18:18] <bz> gijs: working on a try push to disable only for window.open
  2570. # [18:18] <Gijs> bz: awesome, thanks a lot for helping us with this one. :)
  2571. # [18:19] <Gijs> it's a little mystifying :s
  2572. # [18:19] <mbrubeck> mattwoodrow|away, jwatt: I'd like to file a bug for tracking the tsvg regressions in bug 922942 (and mark it as depending on bug 934183), to make sure the regression doesn't slip through the cracks. Any objections? (If you are planning to back out 922942 then I won't bother.)
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  2575. # [18:20] <jwatt> mbrubeck: isn't that bug 935008?
  2576. # [18:21] <bz> Gijs: It's very mystifying, and no problem.
  2577. # [18:21] <bz> Gijs: I mean, it's my patch that's causing issues... ;)
  2578. # [18:21] <mbrubeck> jwatt: Oh, I missed that somehow. Thanks. :)
  2579. # [18:21] <jwatt> mbrubeck: sure :)
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  2582. # [18:23] <bz> Gijs: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=ce3a272ba5b5
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  2590. # [18:28] <Gijs> mconley: if we can run that stuff locally on that 10.6 machine, we may also want to investigate if pref'ing tabsintitlebar off makes any difference
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  2593. # [18:28] <mconley> Gijs: yep, just getting it set up now. I'll be able to tell you if I can reproduce the crash in a few minutes.
  2594. # [18:29] <Gijs> awesome!
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  2623. # [18:41] <@bsmedberg> ted: do you know if there's a way to completely disable mochitest-browser test timeouts (I'm doing debugging)?
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  2625. # [18:41] <@ted> the harness takes a --timeout parameter, but we don't expose that via mach
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  2628. # [18:42] <@ted> i have a patch in my queue to expose that in mach actually
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  2631. # [18:43] <@ted> https://diff.pastebin.mozilla.org/3430665
  2632. # [18:44] <bholley> Gijs++
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  2634. # [18:44] <bholley> Gijs: if that patch seeded any curious questions in your brain about the workings of XPConnect, feel free to fire away :_)
  2635. # [18:44] <bholley> er :-)
  2636. # [18:44] <@ted> bsmedberg: actually
  2637. # [18:45] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/runtests.py#998
  2638. # [18:45] <@ted> looks like if you don't use autorun or have a debugger attached we should disable the timeout
  2639. # [18:45] <@bsmedberg> ted: that's the python timeout, isn't it?
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  2644. # [18:45] <@ted> bsmedberg: no, it gets sent down to the JS as well
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  2646. # [18:45] <@bsmedberg> hrm
  2647. # [18:45] <@bsmedberg> I'm certainly using --debugger=gdb
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  2649. # [18:45] <@bsmedberg> that's weird
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  2652. # [18:46] <@bsmedberg> whew, I just caught the error
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  2654. # [18:46] <@ted> maybe something is broken and we don't respect it properly
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  2666. # [18:48] <Ms2ger> Gijs, actually, if it did seed any curious questions in your brain about the workings of XPConnect, RUN
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  2669. # [18:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dfb9f8a3e326 - Kamil Muszyski - Bug 782544 - Don't expose position info for table cells. r=surkov
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  2679. # [18:52] <Gijs> bholley: my brain still itches because of the reuseGlobal stuff
  2680. # [18:52] <Gijs> bholley: like, that flag just lies, as far as naming is concerned
  2681. # [18:52] <bholley> Gijs: yeah - blame khuey
  2682. # [18:52] <Gijs> what's its use?
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  2684. # [18:53] <bholley> Gijs: it's that thing in b2g where we use (or used) a single global for all the JSMs
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  2686. # [18:53] <bholley> khuey: do we still need that with zones?
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  2689. # [18:54] <Gijs> bholley: ooooh
  2690. # [18:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd1a07426d4c - Daniel Holbert - Bug 934779: Fix signed/unsigned comparisons in TaskbarWindowPreview.cpp and nsClipboard.cpp. r=jimm
  2691. # [18:54] <Gijs> right, I remember that
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  2694. # [18:55] <@bsmedberg> bholley: ping
  2695. # [18:55] * bholley reviewed that with a gun to his head
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  2697. # [18:55] <bholley> bsmedberg: hi
  2698. # [18:55] <@bsmedberg> bholley: I have a case where XPCConvert::NativeInterface2JSObject is failing deep in event dispatch and throwing an error
  2699. # [18:55] <@bsmedberg> bug 934774
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  2701. # [18:56] <@bsmedberg> bholley: I have it in a debugger after it has failed, but I'm not sure what to look for
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  2704. # [18:56] <bholley> bsmedberg: what stack frame are you looking at?
  2705. # [18:56] <@bsmedberg> bholley: I'm in NativeInterface2JSObjectAndThrowIfFailed from BindingUtils.cpp
  2706. # [18:57] <bholley> bsmedberg: how valuable is this debug session?
  2707. # [18:57] <@bsmedberg> bholley: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3430769 is the backtrace, if that's helpful
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  2709. # [18:57] <@bsmedberg> bholley: I can *probably* catch this again, I'm getting better at that now ;-)
  2710. # [18:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58d7c1291d4c - Geoff Brown - Bug 934012 - Add execext command to sutagent; r=jmaher
  2711. # [18:57] <bholley> bsmedberg: ok. But we should still be careful, right?
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  2713. # [18:57] <@bsmedberg> oh, the session itself we can destroy
  2714. # [18:58] <@bsmedberg> bholley: this is us dispatching PluginRemoved to a document which may already be torn down
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  2716. # [18:58] * @bsmedberg isn't quite sure about how document teardown works
  2717. # [18:58] <bholley> bsmedberg: anyway
  2718. # [18:59] <bholley> bsmedberg: what is aCx->isExceptionPending()?
  2719. # [18:59] <bholley> bsmedberg: oh, I see. You're already in the path we take if there's no pending JS exception
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  2722. # [18:59] <@bsmedberg> yeah
  2723. # [18:59] <bholley> bsmedberg: can you rewind and just invoke NI2JO again?
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  2726. # [19:00] <@bsmedberg> hrm... not easily
  2727. # [19:00] <bholley> bsmedberg: and break inside it?
  2728. # [19:00] <bholley> bsmedberg: why can't you?
  2729. # [19:00] <@bsmedberg> I coudld maybe break on the failure points in it
  2730. # [19:00] <bholley> bsmedberg: I don't mean temporally
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  2732. # [19:00] <bholley> bsmedberg: I just mean move up the stack, and call the function a second time
  2733. # [19:00] <bholley> bsmedberg: and break at the entry to the function
  2734. # [19:00] <bholley> bsmedberg: and follow it to see where it fails
  2735. # [19:00] <@bsmedberg> hrm, that might work
  2736. # [19:01] <@bsmedberg> bholley: I'll try that, thanks
  2737. # [19:01] <bholley> bsmedberg: np
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  2755. # [19:06] <bholley> bsmedberg: so currently, the gfx module never fire up in xpcsell
  2756. # [19:06] <bholley> *xpcshell
  2757. # [19:06] <bholley> bsmedberg: but layout does
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  2759. # [19:06] <bholley> bsmedberg: do you think it's a problem if I alter layout to require gfx?
  2760. # [19:06] <@bsmedberg> because we need layout for xpconnect, yeah
  2761. # [19:06] <@bsmedberg> bholley: perhaps the best way to solve this is just make the gfx module part of layout?
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  2763. # [19:07] <@bsmedberg> I don't know if gfx will fail to init if we're in a headless environment
  2764. # [19:07] <@bsmedberg> nor do I know if we care
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  2770. # [19:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/208198d2bbdd - Terrence Cole - Bug 932530 - Check return of getType in more places; r=djvj
  2771. # [19:09] <@bsmedberg> We should be moving toward explicit startup sequence anyway, instead of "whenever XPCOM happens to discover that you're needed", for most things.
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  2793. # [19:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f39d5c1d8ea8 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 932505 - Add some basic checking for Bindings.conf r=bz
  2794. # [19:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e078b92f7db1 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 934568 - Make cycle collector OOM assertions fatal in debug builds. r=mccr8
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  2849. # [19:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae25b8cc8ff8 - Steve Fink - Bug 916677 - Update expected number of hazards to accommodate some regressions, r=terrence
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  2851. # [19:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c4fc26fa3b10 - Steve Fink - Bug 934698 - Suppress nsISupports.{AddRef,Release} when called directly, r=bhackett
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  2855. # [19:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: call me crazy, but I would like to get bug 934568 on the release branches if at all possible
  2856. # [19:44] <froydnj> "uplift me maybe"?
  2857. # [19:45] <mccr8> RyanVM|sheriffduty: well, I'd like to see if it sticks for a week or so, but beyond that,
  2858. # [19:45] <Ms2ger> froydnj, is that what the fox says?
  2859. # [19:45] <mccr8> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I don't see why it would hurt, as it is debug-only
  2860. # [19:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: wfm
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  2871. # [19:51] <hub> dougt: WTF "Doug Turner sent you an invitation" (from Twitter)
  2872. # [19:51] <fox2mike> dougt: did you just share your email with twitter?
  2873. # [19:51] <fox2mike> haha
  2874. # [19:51] <@dolske> I just got that too
  2875. # [19:51] <fox2mike> HE DID
  2876. # [19:51] <fox2mike> SPAM!
  2877. # [19:51] <dougt> fuck
  2878. # [19:51] <catlee> thanks dougt!
  2879. # [19:51] <Ms2ger> Aww, dougt doesn't like me :(
  2880. # [19:51] <dougt> nexus 5; installed twitter
  2881. # [19:51] * catlee feels special
  2882. # [19:51] <fox2mike> dougt: wow.
  2883. # [19:51] <fabrice> lol
  2884. # [19:51] <fox2mike> good to know
  2885. # [19:52] <hub> twitter client = CRAP
  2886. # [19:52] <@gavin> I didn't get an invite :(
  2887. # [19:52] <hub> srsly
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  2889. # [19:52] <dougt> hah.
  2890. # [19:52] <fabrice> dougt: b2g-r-d got it!
  2891. # [19:52] <davidb> doh
  2892. # [19:52] <dougt> hah
  2893. # [19:53] <Ms2ger> dougt, if you'd been a real manager, it'd have been from linkedin, at least
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  2897. # [19:54] <dougt> Ms2ger: haha. I know! :)
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  2899. # [19:55] <derf> He's just trying to drive the stock price up.
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  2901. # [19:56] <dustin> now I'm even MORE glad I don't use twitter
  2902. # [19:56] <dustin> that's really creepy
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  2904. # [19:56] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM|sheriffduty: why did you set bug 918612 to status-firefox-esr24: affected → wontfix in comment 116?
  2905. # [19:56] <WeirdAl> Question: What happens if I call on the subscript loader to load a script, and I pass in a XUL element for the target object?
  2906. # [19:56] <@bsmedberg> oh wait, I'm still not reading far enough back
  2907. # [19:56] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM|sheriffduty: nevermind
  2908. # [19:56] <davidb> yay for triple digit comments
  2909. # [19:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62601b803f21 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 821726 - allow bypassing script cache when using loadSubscript, r=bholley
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  2912. # [19:58] <Waldo> bjacob: why oh why oh why oh why oh why have we not dropped 32-bit yet :-(
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  2917. # [19:59] <@bsmedberg> Waldo: because all our netflix-using users would leave, and some other unknown percentage of normal users
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  2923. # [20:00] <Waldo> bsmedberg: I am not asking seriously
  2924. # [20:00] <bjacob> Waldo: 32bit has fewer problems than 64bit in this department. On 32bit, 32bit hash tables don't have to be a problem; on 64bit, they are going to be a big source of arbitrary limits that we'll run into, as we'll eventually find that 4G isn't such a big number after all...
  2925. # [20:00] <WeirdAl> Gijs - maybe you can answer my question :)
  2926. # [20:00] <Waldo> bsmedberg: also this is not an argument either of us wants to get into now
  2927. # [20:00] <@bsmedberg> hehe
  2928. # [20:00] <Gijs> WeirdAl: what?
  2929. # [20:00] <@bsmedberg> sorry, I didn't detect the sarcasm
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  2932. # [20:01] <Gijs> Oh.
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  2934. # [20:01] <Gijs> Uhm
  2935. # [20:01] <Gijs> Try it and see?
  2936. # [20:01] <@roc> mbrubeck: ping?
  2937. # [20:01] <Waldo> well, *mostly* not asking seriously
  2938. # [20:01] <mbrubeck> roc: pong
  2939. # [20:01] <Gijs> WeirdAl: I'm not sure if dom elements can be jsvals
  2940. # [20:01] <Gijs> if so, then maybe it Just Works
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  2942. # [20:01] <@roc> I'm trying to get my head around touch-action. I have a feeling I don't understand something but I can't put my finger on it.
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  2944. # [20:01] <Gijs> or it'll give you an invalid argument exception
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  2946. # [20:01] <Waldo> bjacob: well, if we were 64-bit, the capacity * sizeof(Entry) limit wouldn't matter
  2947. # [20:01] <WeirdAl> Gijs - I haven't tried it, so I expect a JS_ASSERT failure :p
  2948. # [20:02] <fabrice> and the dougt mail storm goes on...
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  2950. # [20:02] <mbrubeck> roc: I'm happy to try to answer questions (especially high-level ones; I'm not 100% solid on the nitty-gritty)
  2951. # [20:02] <Gijs> WeirdAl: just try it in the browser console on regular nightly and see?
  2952. # [20:02] <bjacob> Waldo: oh ok, true
  2953. # [20:02] <timeless> dougt: why should i join twitter?
  2954. # [20:02] <timeless> i already have irc
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  2956. # [20:02] * WeirdAl waves to timeless
  2957. # [20:03] <Gijs> WeirdAl: Services.scriptloader.loadSubScript("file:///Users/al/foo.js", document.getElementById("nav-bar"))
  2958. # [20:03] <mbrubeck> The Pointer Events spec was basically birthed fully-formed from MS, so I'm still in the process of absorbing it.
  2959. # [20:03] <@roc> I think dougt had some kind of spasm. He invited some mailing lists to join Twitter
  2960. # [20:03] <WeirdAl> Gijs - I'll try it tonight.
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  2962. # [20:03] <timeless> hi WeirdAl
  2963. # [20:03] * Gijs can try it right now and is now curious
  2964. # [20:03] <timeless> ah, i see i'm not special
  2965. # [20:03] * timeless reads scrollback
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  2967. # [20:04] <dougt> my twitter app just emailed my contact list. who the fuck would ever want that.
  2968. # [20:04] <@roc> mbrubeck: AIUI, there are two problems we want to solve. One problem is that we want to be able to initiate certain APZC gestures without consulting the main thread.
  2969. # [20:04] <dougt> roc: sorry :/
  2970. # [20:04] <Gijs> WeirdAl: just works, although if your script tries to write to non-writable properties then maybe it'll break
  2971. # [20:04] <mbrubeck> roc: yup
  2972. # [20:04] <fox2mike> gavin: you're not as important to dougt as the rest of us man.
  2973. # [20:04] <WeirdAl> Gijs - does it use the global instead?
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  2975. # [20:04] <Gijs> WeirdAl: no, it uses the element
  2976. # [20:04] <WeirdAl> sweet
  2977. # [20:04] <Gijs> WeirdAl: so my script declared foo
  2978. # [20:04] <Gijs> and so I got a foo property on my navbar
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  2980. # [20:04] <@roc> dougt: it's OK. Some years ago one of my kids got onto a logged-in GMail session of mine and invited everyone in my contacts list to join GMail. Including Schrep, John Lilly, etc
  2981. # [20:05] <WeirdAl> Gijs - that's awesome. :D
  2982. # [20:05] <Gijs> mm
  2983. # [20:05] <annevk> dougt: ah, I thought you liked me :p
  2984. # [20:05] <Gijs> roc: that is awesome.
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  2989. # [20:05] <Gijs> I mean, terrifying
  2990. # [20:06] <Gijs> but also awesome.
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  2992. # [20:06] <dougt> roc: hah. :)
  2993. # [20:06] <dougt> yeah yea... my *kid* was setting up my phone.
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  2995. # [20:06] <dougt> that's my story too! :)
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  2997. # [20:06] <WeirdAl> Gijs - I'm thinking subscript loader for wizard pages (yes, I'm going to use the hated <xul:wizard/>)
  2998. # [20:07] * mbrubeck still curious to know which second problem roc has identified
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  3000. # [20:07] <@roc> mbrubeck: ok, and we can do that whenever an element definitely doesn't have a touchstart handler (or a handler on any ancestor), OR if the element has touch-action:pan-x/pan-y/etc on itself or an ancestor. Right?
  3001. # [20:07] <dougt> okay... i think I have caused enough harm for today.
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  3003. # [20:07] <fabrice> dougt: come on, it's only 11am
  3004. # [20:08] <mbrubeck> roc: Right -- though some quibbles with the part before the "OR"
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  3006. # [20:08] <@roc> mbrubeck: what quibbles?
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  3008. # [20:09] <mbrubeck> roc: (a) we'd have to check both touchstart and touchmove, and (b) we don't *currently* do the check as you describe; instead we check whether there are any touch event listeners in the document at all (so we don't optimize all the cases we could)
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  3010. # [20:09] <@roc> mbrubeck: the other problem I thought touch-action might be trying to solve is suppressing various APZC guestures.
  3011. # [20:10] <mbrubeck> roc: Yup, that's accurate too. Some discussion of that by rbyers in https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CV2AXyrdPdGSRypAQcfGrgQVuWYi50EzTmVsMLWgRPM/edit
  3012. # [20:10] <@roc> mbrubeck: why do we have to check for touchmove as well?
  3013. # [20:10] <mbrubeck> roc: Content can prevent panning by calling preventDefault on the first touchmove event
  3014. # [20:10] <@roc> ok
  3015. # [20:11] <@roc> I'm in the process of implementing event-target regions for the compositor and I thought I'd start by doing fine-grained touchstart/touchmove handler detection
  3016. # [20:11] <mbrubeck> nice
  3017. # [20:11] <@bsmedberg> bholley: ok! we're trying to wrap a document and failing here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCWrappedNative.cpp#511
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  3019. # [20:11] <@bsmedberg> it's a doc that has been unloaded already, probably
  3020. # [20:12] <bholley> bsmedberg: ok, so nsDocumentSH::PreCreate is failing?
  3021. # [20:12] <bholley> bsmedberg: is that the SH we're dealing with?
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  3025. # [20:13] <bholley> bsmedberg: or wait, what?
  3026. # [20:13] <bholley> bsmedberg: if this is a document
  3027. # [20:13] <@bsmedberg> bholley: actually it's nsWindowSH
  3028. # [20:13] <bholley> bsmedberg: then we shouldn't have an XPCWN at all
  3029. # [20:13] <bholley> ah
  3030. # [20:13] <bholley> ok
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  3032. # [20:14] <bholley> bsmedberg: so, presumably the inner has been torn down
  3033. # [20:14] <bholley> bsmedberg: and we don't want to re-create the JS global
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  3035. # [20:14] <@bsmedberg> yeah
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  3037. # [20:14] <bholley> bsmedberg: that's generally the reason that nsWindowSH::PreCreate fails
  3038. # [20:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aadfabaeb6c6 - Fernando Jiménez - Bug 933719 - Missing deprecated Webapps:PackageEvent
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  3041. # [20:14] <bholley> bsmedberg: which is the correct behavior IMO
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  3043. # [20:15] <@bsmedberg> bholley: maybe I should ask #content, but I'm hoping I can just avoid dispatching the event in this case from http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsObjectLoadingContent.cpp#254
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  3045. # [20:15] <bholley> bsmedberg: you mean check if the window has been torn down?
  3046. # [20:15] <@bsmedberg> yeah
  3047. # [20:15] <@roc> mbrubeck: also, do you know why IE10+ supports more touch-action values than the spec?
  3048. # [20:16] <Ms2ger> roc, is that the "extend" in EEE? :)
  3049. # [20:16] <bholley> bsmedberg: yeah, that should be fine
  3050. # [20:16] <bholley> bsmedberg: but I'm not the expert on that
  3051. # [20:16] <@roc> Ms2ger: no, since touch-action originated with MS in this case
  3052. # [20:16] <@bsmedberg> to #content it is
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  3054. # [20:18] <@roc> mbrubeck: also, the model where you check every touch-action value between the touched element and the ancestor you're interested in scrolling, taking the intersection of allowed gestures, seems unnecessarily complicated. It seems simpler to have touch-action inherit by default and just consult the touch-action property for the event target.
  3055. # [20:18] <mbrubeck> roc: I don't remember the specific reasons; here's a relevant bug where we moved pan-x and pan-y into the spec (previously IE-only): https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20217
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  3057. # [20:19] <mbrubeck> roc: I'm not sure if this was the reason, but I know the W3C has historically shied away from specifying pinch or other multi-touch gestures in any way due to the patent minefield. :(
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  3059. # [20:19] <@roc> we shouldn't be specifying gestures here, just the resulting actions
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  3061. # [20:20] <@roc> so pan-x/pan-y/zoom feel right.
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  3066. # [20:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/81175b9cddcf - Bill McCloskey - Bug 931151 - Offer an alternative to NSPR when building the JS shell on POSIX platforms (r=jorendorff,ted)
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  3073. # [20:21] <mbrubeck> roc: More discussion at http://www.w3.org/2013/01/22-pointerevents-minutes.html
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  3079. # [20:23] <@roc> ok thanks
  3080. # [20:23] <mbrubeck> roc: To sum up, it sounds like people wanted to hash out alternatives for zoom; there's already user-scalable and -ms-content-zoom as other possibilities
  3081. # [20:23] <mbrubeck> "zoom" could certainly be added to touch-action in a future version of the spec, though.
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  3086. # [20:26] <@roc> mbrubeck: so one problem I'm grappling with is how to deal with this situation: a touch-action:none element containing a scrollable element containing a touch-action pan-x element (which has a compositor-animated transform on it). When the innermost element is the event target, according to the spec it can pan the scrollable element but not the document. Somehow this needs to be communicated...
  3087. # [20:26] <@roc> ...to the compositor.
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  3094. # [20:28] <mbrubeck> roc: Now we're getting beyond my expertise...
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  3099. # [20:28] <@roc> basically, having an element being able to pan some containers but not others adds a great deal of complexity to the implementation.
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  3104. # [20:29] <@roc> do you know of any discussions about this feature?
  3105. # [20:30] <dustin> Yoric: are {decode,encode}URIComponent safe to use in the OTMC-compatible fromFileURI and toFileURI?
  3106. # [20:30] <mbrubeck> roc: Not that I can think of, but I'll search through some email...
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  3112. # [20:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b1d63d30f0a - Trevor Saunders - bug 931399 - shutdown DocAccessible's when the related docshell is destroyed r=bz
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  3114. # [20:31] <Yoric> dustin: Not according to the doc, I realize.
  3115. # [20:32] <Yoric> Let's file a bug.
  3116. # [20:32] <dustin> for the doc?
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  3118. # [20:33] <mbrubeck> roc: Thinking out loud... Currently APZC has this "scroll overflow hand-off" concept, where we always try to pan the innermost scrollable element first, and when that's exhausted we start looking at the ancestors... In your example, if the target is the innermost (pan-x) element but the scroll would "overflow" to the document, could we just switch "targets" at that point to the scrollable element itself?
  3119. # [20:33] <Yoric> dustin: No, for making them available.
  3120. # [20:33] <mbrubeck> I'm not sure if that's comprehensible.
  3121. # [20:33] <Yoric> dustin: On the other hand, do we still need them with the URL object?
  3122. # [20:33] <dustin> Yoric: i was going to use them to encode/decode %xx
  3123. # [20:33] <dustin> I can do that with some character processing though
  3124. # [20:33] <cpeterson> gavin: in this morning's engineering meeting, you referenced the "firefox-dev" list. Is that different from the spammy mozilla.dev.apps.firefox newsgroup?
  3125. # [20:34] <@roc> mbrubeck: hmmmmmm
  3126. # [20:34] <dcamp> it's much different
  3127. # [20:34] <@gavin> cpeterson: omg yes
  3128. # [20:34] <dcamp> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/firefox-dev
  3129. # [20:34] <mbrubeck> roc: i.e. once we determine that we're not scrolling the scrollable element, we no longer need to consider anything inside of it... right?
  3130. # [20:34] <@gavin> cpeterson: http://www.gavinsharp.com/blog/2013/02/26/announcing-the-firefox-dev-mailing-list/
  3131. # [20:35] <dustin> Yoric: oh, the patch as it stands (in 803188) is using decodeURI -- so that should be changed?
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  3134. # [20:35] <dcamp> you can read it AND not want to abacinate yourself.
  3135. # [20:35] <cpeterson> gavin: thanks. I thought so. I just didn't see "firefox-dev" listed on lists.mozilla.org's mailman page
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  3138. # [20:35] <@gavin> it's on mail.mozilla.org
  3139. # [20:35] <@gavin> because we have two mailman instances set up
  3140. # [20:36] <@roc> mbrubeck: yeah I think you're basically right. We can handle it that way.
  3141. # [20:36] <NeilAway> bholley: try using git apply to apply the patch to your hg tree?
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  3144. # [20:37] <@roc> ok thanks for all your help
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  3149. # [20:39] <NeilAway> WeirdAl: nothing unexpected. see http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/suite/common/bindings/prefwindow.xml#529
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  3151. # [20:39] <froydnj> whoa, OF way down this week
  3152. # [20:40] <dustin> Yoric: they seem to be implemented in js/src/jsstr.cpp (so, not part of any API), which should mean they're safe for use OTMC, right?
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  3154. # [20:40] <@roc> what's "OF"?
  3155. # [20:41] <Ms2ger> Orange factor
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  3158. # [20:41] <Gijs> froydnj: is that just because last week's OF was terrible?
  3159. # [20:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: Ed did a bunch of test disabling last week, fwiw
  3160. # [20:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> for a full work week, it was one of the worst for orange fixes
  3161. # [20:42] <Gijs> cpeterson, gavin: is m.d.a.firefox still alive?
  3162. # [20:42] <Gijs> Thunderbird told me it died ages ago :s
  3163. # [20:42] <@gavin> no
  3164. # [20:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> at least since I started watching
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  3168. # [20:43] <Gijs> gavin: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mozilla.dev.apps.firefox has recent posts :(
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  3170. # [20:45] <GPHemsley> Is it just me, or is the style editor broken in Aurora 27?
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  3172. # [20:45] <@gavin> Gijs: comment in bug 871282?
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  3175. # [20:46] <WeirdAl> NeilAway: I hope there's a chrome mochitest for that.
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  3177. # [20:46] <Gijs> gavin: commented
  3178. # [20:46] <WeirdAl> (if suite depends on it, it needs a test)
  3179. # [20:46] <decoder> glandium: i made a fix for msvc, but now the build is orange with no errors: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=c19ddfca4761
  3180. # [20:47] <decoder> if anyone else has a clue why it's orange, ill be glad to hear it^^
  3181. # [20:47] <Yoric> dustin: Well, the best way to know whether they are implemented is to try and use them :)
  3182. # [20:47] <philor> decoder: that's as good as win64 opt gets, Bug 912502
  3183. # [20:47] <decoder> philor: oh ok. thanks!
  3184. # [20:47] <dustin> Yoric: fair enough :)
  3185. # [20:47] <decoder> i thought it was my fault
  3186. # [20:49] <Gijs> decoder: program finished with exit code 2
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  3188. # [20:50] <Gijs> oh, so philor just told you that's what happens on win64
  3189. # [20:50] <Waldo> hub: re your email, I'm pretty sure you've got Intel inside, unless you have a really old laptop
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  3191. # [20:52] <+benjamin> does anyone else have problems with spdy and gmail?
  3192. # [20:52] <decoder> Gijs: yep thx! :)
  3193. # [20:52] <dmajor> Gijs: do you know of any workarounds for the ImportError in mach? I'm seeing it too :(
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  3195. # [20:53] <Gijs> dmajor: after updating to tip this morning, clobbering, and rebuilding, it went away
  3196. # [20:53] <decoder> gps: regarding your hardware email: I dont know how it is for most recent i7's but my i7 is horrible in terms of temperature (lenovo thinkpad). I would never get an i7 again if it behaves like this
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  3198. # [20:53] <Gijs> dmajor: that being said, I haven't touched it since this morning
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  3200. # [20:54] <dmajor> Gijs: hmm. I have the opposite problem. updating to tip this morning (from an old tree), clobber, rebuild, and now I get the error.
  3201. # [20:54] <philor> and if you foolishly run win64 debug, that red will be Bug 669384, second pinned tab in my set of permaorangereds
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  3206. # [20:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/66fe02c5c163 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 932322 - Add an even longer timeout to browser_webconsole_bug_632347_iterators_generators.js.
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  3209. # [20:58] <hub> Waldo: it is an intel. but gsvelto gave the proper answer. not an Haswell. And I got this laptop at labour day :-/
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  3213. # [20:58] <hub> Waldo: I removed the "Intel Inside" sticker myself, so that wasn't the question.
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  3215. # [20:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53c000e62746 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 934533 - Remove the azure content enabled pref since we require it to be enabled for all platforms now. r=nrc
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  3219. # [20:59] <Waldo> hub: it is usually a mistake to take me seriously, and you shouldn't have, here, because of the slogan punning opportunity :-)
  3220. # [20:59] <daleharvey> reuben: did you find your problem with mavericks / error: typedef redefinition with different types?
  3221. # [21:00] <Gijs> dmajor: :(
  3222. # [21:00] <Gijs> dmajor: twi asked me for debugging info, lemme find it
  3223. # [21:00] <gsvelto> hub: Which laptop model is it? I've got a Thinkpad T420 myself and it had overheating problems from day one. Replacing the thermal paste on it sped up my builds a lot so you might want to do the same on yours too.
  3224. # [21:00] <Gijs> dmajor: probably helpful to get that in the bug
  3225. # [21:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> peterv: had to bump the timeout again
  3226. # [21:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> peterv: One more timeout and I'm disabling the test. This is silly.
  3227. # [21:01] <gsvelto> I suspect that most of the Haswell speed-up comes from it being far more energy efficient and throttling less than the Sandy/Ivy models
  3228. # [21:01] <hub> gsvelto: X230. It is Ivy bridge
  3229. # [21:01] <daleharvey> or if anyone else know problems with mavericks and either gecko / firefox os builds
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  3243. # [21:11] <Gijs> dmajor: what does: ./mach python -c "import mach; print mach.__file__" print?
  3244. # [21:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5ee306a9908d - Olli Pettay - Bug 934946 - Add most-recently-used-contentlists cache, r=bz
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  3253. # [21:17] <gsvelto> hub: If you're on Linux when doing a full, long build I suggest you to run 'watch grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo'. If after 10-15 minutes you can see your clocks drop very low (~1GHz) then it's probably throttling like mine did. You can also look in dmesg for thermal events. In my case just re-applying the thermal paste cut my build time in half as the CPU was not throttling anymore.
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  3255. # [21:17] <djvj> who knows how to build do PGO builds of Firefox 16 on try?
  3256. # [21:17] <djvj> jmaher|afk: ping ^-- ?
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  3262. # [21:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: ping
  3263. # [21:21] <@smaug> RyanVM|sheriffduty: pong
  3264. # [21:21] <nthomas> djvj: try tracks mozilla-central's configuration, so it doesn't support building something like 16. Why 16 btw ?
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  3266. # [21:21] <@smaug> what did I break?
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  3268. # [21:21] <djvj> nthomas: want talos numbers for an earlier release
  3269. # [21:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: I was planning to merge 932322 to m-c soon. Should I be nervous given your last comment in the bug?
  3270. # [21:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> how bad is that?
  3271. # [21:21] <djvj> nthomas: to compare with 25 on same configuration
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  3273. # [21:22] <nthomas> djvj: have you looked at http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html ?
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  3280. # [21:22] <@smaug> RyanVM|sheriffduty: performance in that microbenchmark is perhaps 30% worse
  3281. # [21:22] <@smaug> still trying to verify
  3282. # [21:23] <nthomas> djvj: #ateam should be able to help navigate which test you want, but the branch will be Mozilla-Release
  3283. # [21:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: is that an OMG backout now issue or something that can wait for a follow-up?
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  3285. # [21:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a245d66f692 - Terrence Cole - Bug 931912 - Suppress an exact rooting hazard false positive in nsWindowSH::Finalize; r=sfink
  3286. # [21:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> IIRC, khuey's patches depend on it too
  3287. # [21:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so a backout will involve a lot of things
  3288. # [21:23] <djvj> TheOne: playing with it..
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  3290. # [21:23] <@smaug> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I don't think it is too bad.
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  3292. # [21:23] <djvj> nthomas: playing with it now
  3293. # [21:23] <@smaug> we'll need to fix the regression, but merging to m-c should be ok
  3294. # [21:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: ok, good to know
  3295. # [21:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> thanks
  3296. # [21:23] <TheOne> huh?
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  3300. # [21:24] <djvj> TheOne: sorry, bad tab complete
  3301. # [21:24] <TheOne> :)
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  3303. # [21:25] <nthomas> djvj: that's the older system, https://datazilla.mozilla.org/ is the new one but dunno if it has data going back far enough for you
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  3314. # [21:29] <clb> is there a way to get an about:memory measurement of a firefox browser running on android nexus 4?
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  3319. # [21:30] <@smaug> mccr8: you might remember ^
  3320. # [21:30] <mcsmurf> clb: so basically you're looking for someone with a nexus 4 phone?
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  3326. # [21:32] <clb> mcsmurf: no, I have nexus 4 phone right here with me, running my app, and I'm connected to it in firefox debugger
  3327. # [21:33] <clb> I can get built-in console logs, set breakpoints, do profiling and use SPS/cleopatra UI even, but I can't figure out a way to get a memory snapshot
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  3329. # [21:33] <mcsmurf> ah..
  3330. # [21:33] <clb> there's some kind of issue that the app loads once, but if I try to reload the page, it always ooms
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  3332. # [21:34] <clb> it uses about 512MB of RAM, which is a bit of a pressure on the phone, though Android says I've got 400MB/1.5GB in use before I start up FF
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  3339. # [21:36] <mcsmurf> clb: maybe #mobile can help better? not really sure..
  3340. # [21:37] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Gijs is looking at his assertion
  3341. # [21:37] <clb> mcsmurf: thanks, I'll ping there
  3342. # [21:38] * philor presumes with the expression of someone who thought that puppy was housetrained
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  3345. # [21:39] <philor> meanwhile, on the tip, flames
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  3347. # [21:40] <Gijs> philor, RyanVM|sheriffduty: so the assertion is bogus, as far as I'm concerned, so I'll land a fix right now to expect an assertion and a followup bug to remove the assertions.
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  3349. # [21:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> k
  3350. # [21:40] <philor> terrence needs a "hey, we have opt builds too" backout
  3351. # [21:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs: mind doing that while you're at it?
  3352. # [21:41] <philor> Gijs: with CLOSED TREE in the commit message
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  3355. # [21:42] <philor> damn, so narrowly missed closing in front of your merge
  3356. # [21:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: heh
  3357. # [21:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> phew
  3358. # [21:42] <terrence> thanks for the backout
  3359. # [21:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: fyi, had to resolve some conflicts between b-i and m-i, so hopefully I did it right :D
  3360. # [21:42] <Gijs> philor, RyanVM|sheriffduty: so uhm, my brilliant plan is being foiled by my not being able to find out how to get a chrome test to expect an assertion
  3361. # [21:43] <Gijs> MDN isn't giving any clues
  3362. # [21:43] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: eh, what's the worst that could happen, without any opt builds?
  3363. # [21:43] <Gijs> philor, RyanVM|sheriffduty: do you guys know how / example / have you done this before?
  3364. # [21:43] * Gijs has only ever seen this in crashtest lists
  3365. # [21:43] <Gijs> philor, RyanVM|sheriffduty: if not, I'll grudgingly back out.
  3366. # [21:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/tests/SimpleTest/SimpleTest.js#502
  3367. # [21:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> feel free to mxr lots of examples
  3368. # [21:44] <Gijs> thanks
  3369. # [21:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sounds like you just want SimpleTest.expectAssertions(1);
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  3371. # [21:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: it'll be on m-c if it's broken
  3372. # [21:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> (even better)
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  3377. # [21:46] <philor> oh, neat, yet another test whining about console messages it didn't expect
  3378. # [21:47] <Gijs> philor: backout of 3a245d66f692 right?
  3379. # [21:47] <Gijs> RyanVM|sheriffduty: (0, 1) ?
  3380. # [21:47] <Gijs> opt doesn't assert...
  3381. # [21:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs: it's permafailing, no?
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  3383. # [21:47] <Gijs> (the assertions are #ifdef DEBUG anyway)
  3384. # [21:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> 0,1 means we wouldn't know if they asserts went away
  3385. # [21:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> we shouldn't use it unless it truly is intermittently asserting
  3386. # [21:48] <Gijs> wouldn't 1 mean that the test would fail on opt because it doesn't assert?
  3387. # [21:48] <Gijs> maybe I'm being dumb :)
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  3389. # [21:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ....if that were the case, we'd be failing a lot more
  3390. # [21:48] <Gijs> ok!
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  3394. # [21:49] <Gijs> RyanVM|sheriffduty: pushed with (1) and a backout of 3a245d66f692.
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  3396. # [21:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/36b3d3f1391b - Gijs Kruitbosch - Fix mochitest-other debug bustage caused by bug 821726 by expecting assertions, rs=bustage on a CLOSED TREE
  3397. # [21:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83c4706d9fe3 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Backed out changeset 3a245d66f692 (bug 931912) for opt build bustage on a CLOSED TREE
  3398. # [21:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs: thanks :)
  3399. # [21:51] <Gijs> thank you guys for being awesome and telling me I broke stuff (and sorry about that... I'll try not to touch xpconnect again :\ )
  3400. # [21:51] <reuben> daleharvey: yes, kinda
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  3402. # [21:52] <Benvie> Gijs: have you found out any more info on bug 934713?
  3403. # [21:52] <paul> I create an <xul:iframe>, how can I be notified when iframe.contentWindow is created? (I need the contentWindow to get the docShell to get the chromeEventHandler to then be notified when the iframe is loaded…)
  3404. # [21:52] <reuben> daleharvey: if those are the only errors you're finding, remove the typedefs in Unicode.h and add "-std=c++11" to LOCAL_CFLAGS in the affected Android.mk files
  3405. # [21:52] <daleharvey> reuben: was it the gcc / g++ / clang issue
  3406. # [21:52] <Gijs> Benvie: no, it's working for me now :s
  3407. # [21:52] <Gijs> Benvie: check out the mach debug thing I posted a while ago for dmajor and comment with more details, please?
  3408. # [21:53] <daleharvey> reuben: ok cool thanks
  3409. # [21:53] <Gijs> Benvie: what does: ./mach python -c "import mach; print mach.__file__" print?
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  3412. # [21:53] <Benvie> gijs: c:\src\fx-team\python\mach\mach\__init__.pyc
  3413. # [21:53] <reuben> daleharvey: if you're also seeing errors in the gtest headers, see my thread in m.d.b2g where I list all the parts of the tree that depend on it and have to be removed
  3414. # [21:54] <Gijs> Benvie: so please post that in the bug, I guess... I am also clueless. Hopefully gps can help.
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  3416. # [21:54] <Gijs> Benvie: I just complained about it on engineering-all, so who knows. ;)
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  3420. # [21:55] <Benvie> Gijs: yeah, having build issues since Friday has been really productivity destroying
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  3427. # [21:56] <mcsmurf> Gijs: just wondering, is a mozillabuild version with mozmake already available for download?
  3428. # [21:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1024c22462ba - Gregory Szorc - Bug 933499 - Fix bootstrap on fresh OS X 10.9 installations; r=ted
  3429. # [21:56] <mcsmurf> or did you download the mozmake.exe somewhere else?
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  3432. # [21:57] <Gijs> mcsmurf: downloaded it from glandium's website
  3433. # [21:57] <Gijs> mcsmurf: there were posts about this in the newsgroups...
  3434. # [21:57] <gps> Gijs: I have no clue how you are seeing that error :/
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  3436. # [21:58] <Gijs> gps: talk to Benvie, he's seeing it now, I'm not anymore
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  3438. # [21:58] <Gijs> gps: it's randomly appearing/disappearing, too
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  3440. # [21:58] <Benvie> yeah I'm getting it every time now
  3441. # [21:59] <gps> huh
  3442. # [21:59] <gps> find . -name '*.pyc' | xargs rm
  3443. # [21:59] <Benvie> moment
  3444. # [21:59] <gps> what are the contents of <objdir>/_virtualenv/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mach.pth ?
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  3447. # [22:01] <Benvie> ..\..\..\..\python\mach
  3448. # [22:01] <gps> that should be fine
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  3451. # [22:01] <gps> Benvie: can you repro if you cd objdir and run ./config.status?
  3452. # [22:01] <gps> also, what hg changeset are you on?
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  3455. # [22:02] <Benvie> running ./config-status is successsful
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  3457. # [22:03] <Benvie> changeset is addebb6d64e8
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  3459. # [22:03] <Benvie> er a3f771caf25d
  3460. # [22:03] <Benvie> sorru
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  3468. # [22:07] <Benvie> removing all the .pyc files didn't help
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  3473. # [22:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/51ea8e0e3dd3 - Ryan VanderMeulen - No bug - Fix merge bustage. CLOSED TREE
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  3493. # [22:22] <Benvie> gps: I checked out revision c698de28d69d and it worked right off. Seeing if I can narrow down a specific revision that starts failing
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  3495. # [22:22] <Swatinem> mah, those bugzilla spam bots are on the loose again :-(
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  3499. # [22:25] <djvj> Swatinem: example?
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  3501. # [22:26] <Yoric> Does anyone know whether Hal is MT-safe?
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  3505. # [22:27] <Callek> Yoric: hwine is indeed MT safe, in fact he knows how to sew up his own socks!
  3506. # [22:27] * Callek ducks
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  3510. # [22:29] <Callek> sorry bad pun, hal is hwine's first name.
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  3512. # [22:29] <Callek> I also took MT to mean multi-thread :-)
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  3520. # [22:31] <Yoric> :)
  3521. # [22:32] <dmajor> Gijs: Ah, sorry, I missed your message. I've rolled back to an earlier build, but I can update and try experiments if you'd like (cc gps Benvie)
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  3523. # [22:32] <gps> dmajor: a regression range would be nice. i just don't understand how it is intermittent
  3524. # [22:32] <gps> i suspect this has something to do with regenerating the build config from mach
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  3526. # [22:33] <gps> try touching any moz.build file and see if you can remove the intermittent part
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  3529. # [22:33] <gps> try executing the printed mozmake.exe or make.py command by hand to see if it always reproduces
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  3532. # [22:33] <dmajor> gps: intermittent? I was busted pretty consistently
  3533. # [22:35] <NeilAway> Gijs: do you know of a bug to make disable_xul_cache disable the script cache too?
  3534. # [22:35] <Gijs> dmajor: but "./mach clobber && ./mach build" works, right?
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  3536. # [22:35] <Gijs> NeilAway: I don't think there's a separate one, no.
  3537. # [22:35] <NeilAway> Gijs: I keep forgetting to file one, I find that behaviour really annoying :s
  3538. # [22:36] <Gijs> NeilAway: no better time than now... :)
  3539. # [22:36] <NeilAway> Gijs: too busy reading scrollback :-P
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  3542. # [22:36] <NeilAway> Gijs: ironically, I'm reading scrollback about timeless reading scrollback
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  3544. # [22:37] <Gijs> scrollback inception?
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  3555. # [22:40] <dmajor> Gijs: clobber&&build worked when I updated this morning. I haven't tried clobber after I started getting the error.
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  3562. # [22:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/51ea8e0e3dd3 - Ryan VanderMeulen - No bug - Fix merge bustage. CLOSED TREE
  3563. # [22:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/621df625b62c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound on a CLOSED TREE.
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  3577. # [22:49] <jchen> BenWa: ping?
  3578. # [22:50] <dmajor> Gijs: My mach.__file__ is d:\src\vc10\python\mach\mach\__init__.pyc
  3579. # [22:50] <dmajor> gps: Running the mozmake command by hand I just get mozmake.EXE: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
  3580. # [22:50] <gps> dmajor: you are running it with pwd == objdir?
  3581. # [22:51] <dmajor> gps: oh. didn't know I needed to. ok, now it just prints the same error as before
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  3585. # [22:53] <Benvie> touching moz.build didn't help
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  3588. # [22:54] <BenWa> jchen: pong
  3589. # [22:54] <mcsmurf> hrm, ObjdirMismatchException is annoying
  3590. # [22:54] <froydnj> wow, somebody's angry in bug 478746
  3591. # [22:55] <jchen> BenWa: hey when would be a good time to talk to you this week?
  3592. # [22:56] <BenWa> jchen: pretty much anytime in EST afternoons
  3593. # [22:56] <jchen> BenWa: are you free now or are you leaving soon?
  3594. # [22:56] <BenWa> I'm free
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  3599. # [22:58] <BenWa> jchen: vidyo 9366
  3600. # [22:58] <jchen> ok
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  3603. # [22:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/afa169bd8be9 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 932127 - correctly configure ctypes in cross compilation conditions; r=glandium
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  3608. # [23:02] <Gijs> bz_away: we're going down the same rabbit hole... :P
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  3610. # [23:02] <dmajor> froydnj: cool checkin comment ;-)
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  3616. # [23:05] <decoder> njn: regarding msan, they do have a solution for uninstrumented libraries, called msandr.. it's a combination of msan and dynamorio, a dynamic instrumentation. but it's slower and i cant get it working for FF right now..
  3617. # [23:05] <decoder> TSan seems more worthwhile to investigate
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  3622. # [23:06] <@njn> decoder: msan+DynamoRIO -- what could possibly go wrong? :P
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  3625. # [23:07] <decoder> hehe
  3626. # [23:07] <decoder> it just crashes right away :D
  3627. # [23:08] <@njn> decoder: there's a reason Valgrind uses dynamic binary instrumentation :) It's slower, but more reliable
  3628. # [23:08] <gkw> njn: i got your email, need some time to think things over
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  3630. # [23:08] <gkw> (e.g. all the steps)
  3631. # [23:08] <@njn> gkw: ok
  3632. # [23:08] <@njn> gkw: where's the Valgrind TBPL setup file?
  3633. # [23:09] <@njn> gkw: I'd like to try turning off the "possibly leaked" warnings
  3634. # [23:09] <gkw> njn: http://hg.mozilla.org/build/tools/file/default/scripts/valgrind/valgrind.sh
  3635. # [23:09] <@njn> which should reduce the output by a huge amount
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  3637. # [23:09] <gkw> njn: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/default/build/valgrind
  3638. # [23:09] <gkw> njn: the latter are the suppression files
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  3640. # [23:10] <gkw> njn: i already added to ignore possibly lost warnings
  3641. # [23:10] <gkw> njn: http://hg.mozilla.org/build/tools/file/default/scripts/valgrind/valgrind.sh#l70
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  3643. # [23:10] <@njn> gkw: hmm, so you did
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  3645. # [23:10] * @njn wonders why isn't that working
  3646. # [23:10] <gkw> njn: it's probably a bug where the output is way too much, the thing is that i don't know whose problem it is
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  3648. # [23:11] <gkw> njn: btw, all these probably regressed since May 2013, which was the last known time i got everything green-ish
  3649. # [23:11] <@njn> gkw: --show-reachable=no should disable that, it sounds like a Valgrind bug
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  3651. # [23:11] <@njn> gkw: I'll investigate that
  3652. # [23:11] <@njn> gkw: valgrind 3.9.0 just came out, I wonder if that'll help
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  3654. # [23:11] <gkw> njn: perfect, thanks for taking this on. if you file bugs related to the harness, i'd like to be cc'ed please (not the bugs it finds)
  3655. # [23:12] <gkw> njn: our Valgrind version is a special version of 3.8.1 with cherry picked fixes, sewardj_ should know more
  3656. # [23:12] <@njn> gkw: yeah, I'll r? you on harness changes
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  3658. # [23:12] <@njn> ok
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  3666. # [23:15] <froydnj> dmajor: I liked it! (I like your complement too ;)
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  3694. # [23:23] <decoder> njn: yea, and in the case of uninitialized values, that totally makes sense.
  3695. # [23:23] <decoder> i think in the case of asan/tsan though, these two are superior
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  3697. # [23:23] <decoder> msan isnt even nearly ready for production imho
  3698. # [23:23] <decoder> and the whole approach is probably too complex
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  3700. # [23:23] <froydnj> decoder: msan?
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  3705. # [23:27] <bholley> I'm quite bamboozled by this compile error on my try push
  3706. # [23:27] <RyanVM> philor: yeah, so much for that idea :P
  3707. # [23:27] <bholley> it doesn't happen locally
  3708. # [23:27] <bholley> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=3f1b2c5ac55d
  3709. # [23:27] <bholley> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30152319&tree=Try#error0
  3710. # [23:28] <bholley> my cpp file includes my header, which includes "nsTHashTable.h"
  3711. # [23:28] <bholley> and apparently, "nsTHashTable.h" doesn't exist
  3712. # [23:28] <bholley> but it clearly does
  3713. # [23:28] <NeilAway> paul: a chrome frame already is the chrome event handler of its content window
  3714. # [23:28] <reuben> when is central going to be merged into b-i again?
  3715. # [23:28] <froydnj> bholley: sure you don't mean nsTHashtable.h?
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  3717. # [23:29] <jld> Today I learn that there's a mochitest that will fail on B2G unless WebGL *doesn't* work.
  3718. # [23:29] <bholley> froydnj: lol
  3719. # [23:29] <Mossop> What is this MOZ_PSEUDO_DERECURSE=1?
  3720. # [23:29] <bholley> froydnj: thank you
  3721. # [23:29] <froydnj> bholley: anytime
  3722. # [23:29] <bholley> froydnj: the joys of working on a case-insensitive file system
  3723. # [23:29] <mwargers> sicking, ping?
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  3725. # [23:30] <NeilAway> Mossop: magic to speed up your depend compile
  3726. # [23:31] <@njn> decoder: if you're in an environment where you have control over the toolchain, yeah, ASan is probably better for the things it checks
  3727. # [23:31] <Mossop> I like magic
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  3729. # [23:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/412ab2e915cf - Geoff Brown - Bug 915311 - Improve MOZ_HOST_BIN warnings; r=ted
  3730. # [23:32] <sicking> mwargers: pong
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  3732. # [23:32] <decoder> froydnj: msan is an llvm sanitizer tool for detecting use of uninitialized values
  3733. # [23:32] <mwargers> sicking, sorry, had to make a small change to the patch in bug 927196 to fix a failure in b2g mochitest
  3734. # [23:32] <NeilAway> bholley: so, if I wanted to disable_xul_cache to affect scripts too where would I look?
  3735. # [23:32] <sicking> mwargers: can you attach an interdiff?
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  3739. # [23:33] <bholley> NeilAway: did you see Gijs's patch?
  3740. # [23:33] <bholley> NeilAway: or maybe that's not what you're looking for
  3741. # [23:33] * Gijs thinks it sort of is, actually
  3742. # [23:33] <mwargers> sicking, I only removed the systemXHR line in testing/mochitest/manifest.webapp
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  3744. # [23:34] <NeilAway> bholley: I want to be able to edit JS files in my tree and get them to affect a running build
  3745. # [23:34] <sicking> mwargers: done
  3746. # [23:34] <NeilAway> bholley: the xul cache pref used to do this, iirc
  3747. # [23:34] <mwargers> sicking, thanks!
  3748. # [23:34] <bholley> NeilAway: that's the xul prototype cache, yeah?
  3749. # [23:35] <NeilAway> bholley: right
  3750. # [23:35] <Gijs> NeilAway: right, so you'd need to make the if condition where I check for options.ignoreCache also check the pref value
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  3752. # [23:35] <Gijs> shouldn't be terribly hard
  3753. # [23:36] <bholley> Gijs: really?
  3754. # [23:36] <bholley> Gijs: your stuff is about module loading
  3755. # [23:36] <bholley> Gijs: NeilAway is talking about XUL scripts
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  3757. # [23:36] <Gijs> bholley: I think the "ordinary" xul scripts are already obeying that pref
  3758. # [23:36] <Gijs> bholley: the startup cache is not
  3759. # [23:36] <bholley> NeilAway: does that match with what you observe?
  3760. # [23:36] <Gijs> bholley: so if you load a jsm, that ends up hitting the startup cache, not the xul cache
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  3762. # [23:37] <Gijs> bholley: apropos, what did you think of the assertion thing?
  3763. # [23:37] <NeilAway> bholley: well, it seems to depend on the platform, on Linux I see caching, but on Windows I don't
  3764. # [23:37] <bholley> NeilAway: caching of .xul, or .jsm?
  3765. # [23:37] <bholley> Gijs: I didn't really look at it
  3766. # [23:38] <NeilAway> bholley: of .js loaded by .xul
  3767. # [23:38] <NeilAway> bholley: the .xul itself is not cached as expected
  3768. # [23:38] <Gijs> bholley: that should already listen to the xul cache pref. :s
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  3770. # [23:38] <Gijs> or at least, not be loaded into the startup cache from the same place I patched, AIUI
  3771. # [23:38] <NeilAway> bholley: hmm, wait
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  3773. # [23:38] <Gijs> s/bholley/NeilAway/
  3774. # [23:38] <NeilAway> bholley: the case I'm thinking of, might be using the subscript loaded
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  3776. # [23:39] <NeilAway> *loader
  3777. # [23:39] <Gijs> :)
  3778. # [23:39] <bholley> NeilAway: then yep, that's it
  3779. # [23:39] <bholley> NeilAway: Gijs just landed a patch a few moments ago
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  3781. # [23:39] <bholley> NeilAway: to allow you do do this programatically
  3782. # [23:39] <bholley> *programmatically
  3783. # [23:39] <bholley> NeilAway: I'll take a patch to have it check the pref too
  3784. # [23:40] <bholley> NeilAway: ideally with a BoolVarCache
  3785. # [23:40] <jdm> taras: "the level of integration" doesn't really answer the question of how mozilla data will be integrated
  3786. # [23:40] <NeilAway> bholley: ok, I'll just verify that's what I'm seeing, now that it's dawned on my that the subscript loaded might be in the code path
  3787. # [23:40] <NeilAway> *me
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  3791. # [23:42] <taras> jdm: yeah, trying to get the guy to communicate directly in bug :)
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  3798. # [23:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cca1dea21a0d - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 929797 - Implement proper memory reporting for child processes. r=khuey.
  3799. # [23:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cea7b6880788 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 917496 - Disable GPUAdapterReporter because its values are frequently bogus. r=Hughman.
  3800. # [23:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/41d4831fc39d - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 933502 - Make memory reporter mochitests work with ASAN. r=gps,me.
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