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1. # Session Start: Wed Nov 06 00:00:00 2013
2. # Session Ident: #developers
3. # [00:00] <glandium> sfink: ping
4. # [00:00] <sfink> glandium: pong
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6. # [00:01] <glandium> sfink: was your tree up-to-date when you were building with distcc or icecream (cf. comments on gps's blog)
7. # [00:01] <mrbkap> grobinson: ping?
8. # [00:01] <glandium> sfink: because really, icu shouldn't be building alone these days
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11. # [00:02] <sfink> given that I just observed the same thing a few minutes ago, yes
12. # [00:02] <glandium> sfink: are you building with pymake?
13. # [00:02] <sfink> oh, you mean icu builds singlethreaded, but it should interleave with other stuff?
14. # [00:02] <glandium> sfink: yes
15. # [00:02] <grobinson> mrbkap: pong
16. # [00:02] <sfink> oh. Then my recent one is irrelevant.
17. # [00:02] <sfink> yes, it's possible I had an older tree at that time
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19. # [00:03] <sfink> I am building on linux, without pymake
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21. # [00:04] <sfink> (my recent build was just of js/src, so it may have run out of other things)
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27. # [00:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3970d972ff8a - Steve Fink - Bug 935125 - Whitelist PLDHashTableOps.hashKey, r=terrence
28. # [00:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2441f52f0252 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 934290 - Add PulseAudio build dep to bootstrap. r=gps
29. # [00:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d14c2de356e - Steve Fink - Bug 935173 - Fix JS_NeuterArrayBuffer and call it, r=Waldo
30. # [00:06] <sicking> anyone know how to disable the new slide-animation on OSX? It breaks gmail
31. # [00:06] <mrbkap> slide anmiation?
32. # [00:07] <RyanVM|afk> sicking: you can pref it back off
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34. # [00:07] <sicking> RyanVM|afk: yeah, that's what i figured, but i couldn't find the pref name
35. # [00:07] <RyanVM|afk> one sec
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44. # [00:09] <KWierso> ryanVM: set browser.snapshots.limit to 0, yeah?
45. # [00:10] <RyanVM|afk> yes, thank you
46. # [00:10] <RyanVM|afk> sicking ^
47. # [00:10] <KWierso> or at least, that's what the patch from bug 860493 looks like
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50. # [00:11] <sicking> RyanVM|afk: yay! Thanks!
51. # [00:11] <sicking> KWierso: thanks!
52. # [00:11] <KWierso> yep :)
53. # [00:12] <sicking> where do i file bugs?
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55. # [00:12] <KWierso> 860493 is in Core :: Widget: Cocoa
56. # [00:12] <KWierso> sicking: ^
57. # [00:13] <sicking> great
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60. # [00:13] <fitzgen> gps: ping
61. # [00:13] <gps> fitzgen: (autoresponse) content-free ping detected. Please consider providing some additional context so I can address your questions more efficiently.
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64. # [00:14] <fitzgen> gps: ping, any chance for quick review on build system changes in bug 930141? should be like 2 very small moz.builds
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76. # [00:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c766a6fe4ffd - Cameron McCormack - Bug 934866 - Make nsFont::systemFont a bool. r=jdaggett
77. # [00:21] <KWierso> RyanVM|afk: so that browser_webconsole_bug_632347_iterators_generators.js timeout is still happening post-timeout-increase... :(
78. # [00:21] <gkw> RyanVM|afk: is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=879647#c22 correct?
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81. # [00:22] <gkw> RyanVM|afk: never mind, i commented
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88. # [00:26] <Mossop> Oh boy, builds are so fast after switching back to OSX
89. # [00:28] <philor> KWierso: probably best to file it, and then we can disable the test in a couple of days for failing too often :)
90. # [00:29] <@njn> glandium: if I use |operator new| in jsgc.cpp and build with GCC, and run |nm -C| on the .o file, I get a |U operator new[](unsigned long)| entry, as expected. But I don't get one when I compile with clang. Any idea why?
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93. # [00:29] <@njn> glandium: we have a test to make sure SpiderMonkey never uses vanilla |operator new|, but I think it's busted; this question is related to that
94. # [00:29] <KWierso> philor: Ryan's comment near the end of https://sheriffs.etherpad.mozilla.org/sheriffing-notes? says to delete it if the timeout increase didn't stop it
95. # [00:30] <KWierso> stop it for linux*
96. # [00:30] <@njn> glandium: oh, ignore the [] above; I pasted the wrong entry, but you get the idea
97. # [00:30] <KWierso> er, s/delete/disable/
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100. # [00:31] <philor> KILL KILL KILL eat burned dead bodies, veins in my teeth
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102. # [00:31] <philor> or disable it, that'd work too
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106. # [00:35] <Hughman> yay for "Crash Reports for memmove | kernel32.dll@0x4d3b9"
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118. # [00:41] <Hughman> should I make a bug for my reproducible crash?
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122. # [00:42] <lizzard> hughman: sure, if it doesn't exist already
123. # [00:42] <lizzard> the one you mentioned a bit earlier?
124. # [00:42] <Hughman> yeah, that group
125. # [00:42] <Hughman> the crash report has no related bugs currently
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128. # [00:44] <@njn> oh wow: "Patches submitted 2079 Patches reviewed 811"
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132. # [00:45] <@njn> bz has 7648 and 14107
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136. # [00:47] <@njn> roc has 4191 and 14809
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139. # [00:48] <@smaug> oh, roc is ahead of bz in reviews
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141. # [00:50] <mbrubeck> nrc: I can try building bug 914847 and see if I can repro the test failure locally tomorrow
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143. # [00:50] <nrc> mbrubeck: that would be awesome, thanks
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147. # [00:51] <philor> do I just automatically check is_patch on everything I attach?
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151. # [00:53] <dew> thank you for dealing with that spammer lizzard~
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154. # [00:54] <seth> Mossop: what platform is slower than OS X for building? windows?
155. # [00:54] <Mossop> yes
156. # [00:54] <seth> figures =p
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159. # [00:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/737384156314 - Wes Kocher - Bug 935277 - Disable browser_webconsole_bug_632347_iterators_generators.js on Linux for frequent timeouts
160. # [00:57] <RyanVM|afk> KWierso: disable it and file a bug for re-enabling please
161. # [00:57] <RyanVM|afk> CC msucan and peterv
162. # [00:57] <dmajor> bsmedberg: I like glandium's suggestion to log whether we lost the user32 race in opt builds. We can't annotate that early though. Think I should add another one-off variable like isGarbageCollecting?
163. # [00:57] <KWierso> RyanVM|afk: done
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166. # [00:59] <glandium> dmajor: i /think/ you can annotate with the write function
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168. # [00:59] <glandium> dmajor: the one that the crash reporter calls
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171. # [01:02] <dmajor> glandium: hmm. I wouldn't want to bolt it onto the existing Write as it currently stands. but if we repurpose that function from "write the list of dlls" to "write anything you think is noteworthy" then that might work
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174. # [01:03] <dmajor> in other words have the blocklist write both the keys and the values, if that makes sense
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176. # [01:03] <gps> njn: could I convince you to reproduce the methodology for clobber no ccache builds from http://gregoryszorc.com/blog/2013/11/05/macbook-pro-firefox-build-times-comparison/ with your i7-4770? looking to compare mobile vs laptop / linux vs os x
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180. # [01:05] <dmajor> glandium: also, do you want to take another look when I post another round? I don't really know what the etiquette for "review canceled" is :)
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184. # [01:08] <glandium> dmajor: i don't think there's an etiquette for that, but i consider it as neither r- which would be too strong nor r+
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187. # [01:09] <glandium> dmajor: but that's case dependent
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189. # [01:09] <glandium> dmajor: after all, you have a r+ on that patch
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211. # [01:24] <dmajor> glandium: ok, I guess I'll do another round if the changes are significant
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222. # [01:33] <froydnj> njn: why are we suppressing all the "possibly lost" messages from valgrind?
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224. # [01:33] <@njn> froydnj: because usually they're false positives
225. # [01:33] <seth> spohl: what's the pref to enable history swipe animations?
226. # [01:33] <@njn> froydnj: Valgrind gives them if there's only a pointer to somewhere in the middle of the block
227. # [01:33] <@njn> froydnj: that's really common in e.g. C++ vector allocations
228. # [01:33] <froydnj> njn: so we just suppress all messages about leaks, period? or are there other leak messages we let through?
229. # [01:34] <@njn> froydnj: we'd keep the "definitely lost" ones, where there is no pointer to anywhere in the block
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231. # [01:34] <froydnj> hm
232. # [01:34] <@njn> froydnj: it's possible that some of the possibly lost ones are real, but we're getting so many false positives that I want to just ignore them for now
233. # [01:34] <@njn> froydnj: the current situation is untenable
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237. # [01:37] <philor> untenable? there's only a completely unknowable number more of them beyond the 50MB cutoff
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239. # [01:37] <froydnj> njn: s/in shell scripts//
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242. # [01:37] <@njn> philor: feel free to substitute your preferred adjective
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244. # [01:38] <philor> njn: I tried, but I got vetoed
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248. # [01:40] <Waldo> so, uh
249. # [01:40] <Waldo> anyone know the package I need to be able to build these days, wrt libpulse on F19?
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251. # [01:41] <Waldo> ./mach bootstrap doesn't do it, fwiw
252. # [01:41] <heycam> even with https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=934290 landed?
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254. # [01:42] <Waldo> possibly not!
255. # [01:42] * Waldo extracts the relevant bit
256. # [01:42] <Waldo> there we go!
257. # [01:42] <Waldo> much obliged, heycam
258. # [01:42] <heycam> np
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261. # [01:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dbf7a53eeff5 - Wes Kocher - Bug 935277 - Fix disabling so it disables the correct test
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273. # [01:53] <NeilAway> bah, the delay between the DOMWillOpenModalDialog event and the dialog actually opening gets longer and longer...
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275. # [01:54] <bz> Gijs: ping
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300. # [02:10] <seth> RyanVM|afk: hurray!
301. # [02:10] <seth> soooo much better
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325. # [02:21] <Waldo> bz: at 2am?
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361. # [02:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1fde6c44d6ad - Minarto Margoliono - Bug 738998 - Fix tooltip not showing in style editor. r=harth
362. # [02:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5571ab3a0493 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 924894 - Split prefs files up for Metro and Desktop when running in the same profile. r=jimm
363. # [02:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/749897db57ac - Steven MacLeod - Bug 887868 - Remove search.sqlite migration code. r=gavin
364. # [02:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b0b537deacb9 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 933739 - Don't handle text changes if not in editing mode (r=bnicholson)
365. # [02:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/971c05007abd - Wes Kocher - Merge fxteam to m-c
366. # [02:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e8aca8cb2756 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 934658: Non-rectangular clip operation in BrowserToolbar's Favicon. [r=mfinkle]
367. # [02:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fefaca8e866e - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 930162: NPE in TabMenuStrip. [r=lucasr]
368. # [02:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/99497e0ef81e - Anton Kovalyov - Bug 933015 - Attach Editor controller to the hidden textarea instead of a CM window. r=benvie
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378. # [02:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2995c617e4c - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 915233 - DOM Promises on Workers. r=baku,smaug,bz sr=sicking
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385. # [02:51] <froydnj> what is up with session restore failing to restore tabs?
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390. # [02:52] <Waldo> froydnj: bug 933587, and apparently it's a data-saving issue, so not so much restore that's failing as the saving that's failing :-\
391. # [02:53] <Waldo> froydnj: not sure if there are any other issues afoot
392. # [02:53] <froydnj> fantastic
393. # [02:53] <Waldo> ...yeah
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397. # [02:53] <froydnj> looks like a slow attrition of tabs every time I restart
398. # [02:53] <Waldo> I tend to think if session store stuff fails, nightlies become unusable for vast numbers of people
399. # [02:53] <Waldo> so session store should probably be considered approximately as important, even in nightlies, as the app update functionality
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401. # [02:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2dde2724c138 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to b2g-inbound.
402. # [02:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/38ed1b74a242 - Garner Lee - Bug 933635 - Part 1: NFC IPC Makefiles. r=khuey
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407. # [02:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/eae5235d50cb - Wes Kocher - Merge b2g-inbound to m-c
408. # [02:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f6905c2cec31 - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia-central revision(s) a=gaia-bump
409. # [02:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ca60f53b3685 - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 1 gaia-central revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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413. # [02:57] <froydnj> I love how it knows the favicon, but not the url
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418. # [02:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f88f1e41372 - Brian Hackett - Bug 935027 - Don't create 'rest' template objects in IonBuilder, r=jandem.
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420. # [03:01] <KWierso> heycam: ping?
421. # [03:02] <heycam> KWierso, hi
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423. # [03:02] <KWierso> heycam: any chance bug 934866 would make test_browserElement_oop_ContextmenuEvents.html permafail?
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425. # [03:03] <KWierso> heycam: it's failed like this every time it's run since you landed: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30172697&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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428. # [03:04] <heycam> KWierso, hmm, seems unlikely
429. # [03:04] <heycam> KWierso, still I'm just guessing from the test name
430. # [03:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d23caa617163 - Brian Hackett - Bug 934500 - Don't eagerly create callsite clones in IonBuilder, r=shu.
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437. # [03:07] <KWierso> philor: any ideas? ^^
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446. # [03:11] <philor> KWierso: why did one of a set of tests that constantly fail, a set which I think has done this same sort of thing before on unrelated pushes, turn constantly fail into constantly fail?
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448. # [03:11] <philor> dunno
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452. # [03:11] <philor> didn't someone take ownership of one of the multitudes of bugs on those tests
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455. # [03:12] <KWierso> philor: kanru did two days ago
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460. # [03:13] <philor> KWierso: not even permaorange, there's a retrigger on your push that was green
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462. # [03:14] <KWierso> heycam: unping :)
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464. # [03:14] <heycam> ack
465. # [03:14] <philor> it fails a lot, a hell of a lot, and this time it failed three times in a row on the same platform, would be my conclusion
466. # [03:14] <philor> gah, someone requested something of me, and now there's a horrible red dot on every bug page
467. # [03:15] <philor> I shall immediately respond to the request, with as little thought as possible, to make it go away
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470. # [03:15] <philor> speed is everything!
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473. # [03:16] <philor> oh, wait, that's my response to "can't I just requestLongerTimeout?" anyway
474. # [03:17] <KWierso> nsm, nsm_: bustage
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496. # [03:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a00afeffd0ac - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset b2995c617e4c (bug 915233) for breaking the build on a CLOSED TREE
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537. # [03:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2225ed86f53e - Yura Zenevich - Bug 934737 - [AccessFu] fixing a string bundle error when encountering an input type='date'. r=eeejay
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575. # [04:46] <philor> if someone were to accidentally disable test_add_put.html, say in a makefile -> moz.build conversion, I wouldn't object
576. # [04:46] <@khuey> haha
577. # [04:46] <philor> crap, it's already in a mochitest.ini
578. # [04:48] <philor> well, I'm not filing on its 330 second timeout
579. # [04:48] <nsm> KWierso_: thanks for backing that out
580. # [04:48] * nsm goes to see what went wrong
581. # [04:49] <@khuey> nsm: warnings :-(
582. # [04:50] <nsm> khuey: yea :/ ugh, wonder how it didn't show up on my build when i have warnings as errors enabled
583. # [04:50] <@khuey> compiler version
584. # [04:50] <@khuey> or debug vs opt
585. # [04:50] <@khuey> who knows
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591. # [04:53] <@njn> in a file with 4 space indents, do ctor initializer lists get indented like this?
592. # [04:54] <@njn> > + WebGLMemoryReporter()
593. # [04:54] <@njn> > + : MemoryMultiReporter("webgl")
594. # [04:54] <@njn> i.e. 2 spaces before the ':'
595. # [04:54] <@njn> or should it be 4 before the ':'
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597. # [04:54] <@njn> I thought it was 2, because that gave 4 to the actual names
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599. # [04:57] <@njn> the code seems to indicate we have no common style for this matter, hooray
600. # [04:58] <@khuey> yeah
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602. # [04:58] <@khuey> do whatever you want
603. # [04:58] * @khuey was complaining about this in a review the other day
604. # [04:58] <mbrubeck> so green! https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Fx-Team&rev=8605c64627a2
605. # [04:59] <@khuey> where I was told to change no spaces before to two spaces before : in one place
606. # [04:59] <@khuey> and vice versa in another
607. # [04:59] <Unfocused> you could say that about most areas of our codebase and it would be true
608. # [04:59] <mbrubeck> (no mobile platforms)
609. # [04:59] <@khuey> mbrubeck: cheater!
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614. # [05:01] <philor> still impressive, given how truly awful we've become on OS X
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622. # [05:04] <rhodey> vlad: I have some corrections concerning the CalDAV spec on this mozilla page and was told you might be the correct person to run them by. I was also told to try during Toronto business hours, so I'll just leave this here...
623. # [05:05] <rhodey> vlad: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:Recurrence_and_Exceptions
624. # [05:05] <rhodey> vlad: "RECURRENCE-ID as a DATE-TIME is used to refer to an explicit occurrence. It is used as the effective DTSTART of the occurrence. DTSTART and UID should be the same across all occurrences of an item."
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626. # [05:07] <rhodey> vlad: according to RFC5545 I believe this is incorrect, RECURRENCE-ID should specify when the instance *would have* occurred, DTSTART and DTEND or DURATION should be updated to the new exceptional values
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630. # [05:08] <philor> heh
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633. # [05:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2316c5a1d69 - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 915233 - DOM Promises on Workers. r=baku,smaug,bz sr=sicking
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647. # [05:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f08890ce0591 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 934321 - Add MemoryMultiReporter, a helper class that reduces some boilerplate, and convert all existing multi-reporters to use it. r=wchen.
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649. # [05:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3689b4820015 - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 930449 - Disable test_browserElement_oop_ContextmenuEvents.html until someone teaches it to stop timing out
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651. # [05:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3689b4820015 - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 930449 - Disable test_browserElement_oop_ContextmenuEvents.html until someone teaches it to stop timing out
652. # [05:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bfda5a338c2e - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-c to m-i
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666. # [05:46] <glandium> is there a known bug on video display on aurora linux? the engineering meeting video looks like shit (and not on aurora 26, i double checked)
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671. # [05:56] <philor> nsm: desktop b2g on windows seems displeased with you
672. # [05:57] <nsm> philor: yea :( i guess this build can be cancelled/backed out
673. # [05:57] <nsm> ill run it on try first
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675. # [05:59] <nsm> although that error makes no sense
676. # [05:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f86c5c6d100d - Phil Ringnalda - Back out b2316c5a1d69 (bug 915233) for Win b2g desktop build bustage
677. # [05:59] <philor> if you don't like that one, you certainly won't like the desktop opt one
678. # [06:00] <philor> "found error"
679. # [06:00] <philor> "not going to tell you what it was, but found it"
680. # [06:01] <glandium> philor: it's on the same thing
681. # [06:01] <glandium> although the error message itself didn't make it to the log
682. # [06:02] <glandium> another instance of pymake is a pita
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684. # [06:03] <nsm> ah, thanks glandium
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688. # [06:03] * glandium can't wait for mozmake to be deployed on build slaves
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692. # [06:07] <jkitch> I'm concerned bug 328755 is the cause of bug 935376, a crash that started with the latest nightly with ~1000 reports already. How do I request a backout?
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697. # [06:09] <mbrubeck> jkitch: For a patch that just landed yesterday? I'd just back it out.
698. # [06:10] <mbrubeck> But if you want feedback from the patch author first, then post a backout patch to bug 935376 and request review.
699. # [06:10] <jkitch> I am the author, bu I don't have level 3 commit access.
700. # [06:10] <mbrubeck> ah
701. # [06:10] <mbrubeck> I can back it out for you
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703. # [06:11] <jkitch> thanks
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706. # [06:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9ba3faa35c96 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 935376 - Back out 2e6063aa9b77 (bug 328755) on suspicion of causing a crash in ntdll
707. # [06:18] <jkitch> mbrubeck: Thanks for that
708. # [06:19] <mbrubeck> no problem
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711. # [06:26] <mbrubeck> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H25lz7gchaw
712. # [06:26] <mbrubeck> i'm blue da ba dee da ba di
713. # [06:27] <glandium> mbrubeck: This video contains content from Bliss Corporation, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.
714. # [06:27] <mbrubeck> it's okay, you can go to https://tbpl.mozilla.org/ instead if you want to see a lot of blue
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718. # [06:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/32317b78e332 - Mike Hommey - Bug 933803 - Add a note to application.ini that it needs to be moved under browser/. r=ted
719. # [06:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86903c68a81a - Mike Hommey - Bug 934905 - Remove browser/app/profile/extensions/Makefile.in after bug 867445. r=mshal
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732. # [06:41] * philor suggests to bld-lion-r5-006 that it sit down and take a deep breath
733. # [06:42] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
734. # [06:42] <mbrubeck> da ba dee
735. # [06:42] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning guys
736. # [06:42] <mbrubeck> morning
737. # [06:42] <philor> mmm, not often that I go with ?numbuilds=500 and come up short of the start
738. # [06:43] <philor> 720 so far
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741. # [06:53] <@dbaron> what does numbuilds= do?
742. # [06:56] <glandium> oh, an ICE
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750. # [07:02] <jesup|laptop> glandium: FYI I put up a patch for you to review - adding a generic memory barrier in imported android code that only supported ARM (not x86). If I can get the reviews, I hope to land this tomorrow before the base patch bitrots (as the base patch this is on top of is huge (webrtc.org update)
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753. # [07:03] <jesup|laptop> Very small patch. And if you think it will work as well/fast on ARM, I'd be good with using __sync_synchronize() on all android/B2G platforms (this is android/B2G-only code)
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755. # [07:04] <jesup|laptop> if you can't get to it soon; no problem, just let me know so I can hunt down another reviewer and hogtie them
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758. # [07:05] <philor> glandium: busted
759. # [07:05] <philor> fitzgen: busted
760. # [07:05] <glandium> philor: compile ICE for me
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762. # [07:05] <glandium> philor: and i didn't change code, so not me
763. # [07:06] <philor> dbaron: https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/recent/bld-lion-r5-006?numbuilds=800
764. # [07:06] <philor> oh, silly me, just a compiler segfault, nothing interesting
765. # [07:07] <glandium> jesup|laptop: done
766. # [07:07] <jesup|laptop> glandium: Thanks!
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769. # [07:11] <jesup|laptop> glandium: and revised and back up to you
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771. # [07:12] * jesup|laptop is submitting an updated android/gonk try out of caution
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774. # [07:13] <@khuey> philor: ever seen the OS X calendar open in the background before?
775. # [07:13] <philor> khuey: only every single screenshot
776. # [07:13] <@khuey> heh, ok
777. # [07:13] <philor> dmose opened it, we restore it
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779. # [07:14] <glandium> jesup|laptop: done
780. # [07:14] <philor> in theory it should only fuck with the rest of, um, mochitest-4 I think, but we broke the setting to not restore apps on restart, so it's running all the time, including during talos runs
781. # [07:16] <philor> amusingly, not on 10.8, because nobody is willing to tell the silly test that iCal.app changed to Calendar.app
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791. # [07:20] <philor> and given the level of activity on bug 926636, I guess I'll just disable the test that opens iCal
792. # [07:20] <philor> since 10.7 is now our single most unstable OS
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795. # [07:21] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> fitzgen: hm seeems we have a perma orange on fx-team after your push
796. # [07:22] <fitzgen> Tomcat|sheriffduty: looking into it
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799. # [07:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> cool
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801. # [07:24] <philor> fitzgen: oh, already backed it out
802. # [07:24] <philor> my ping clock ticked over to 15 minutes
803. # [07:25] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok philor was faster :)
804. # [07:26] <fitzgen> my bad
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817. # [07:40] <heycam> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/user_profile?login=nobody%40mozilla.org has a lot on his or her plate
818. # [07:41] <heycam> only reviewed 4 patches though
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823. # [07:44] <@khuey> heycam: nobody is so lazy
824. # [07:44] <@khuey> we should have fired him years ago
825. # [07:45] <heycam> never turns up for performance reviews though, so what are you gonna do
826. # [07:45] * @khuey chuckles at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108516#c0
827. # [07:45] <heycam> hah
828. # [07:45] <@khuey> heycam: put him on a PIP clearly
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831. # [07:49] <glob> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103264#c15
832. # [07:51] * heycam assumes the NSA is the patch author
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839. # [08:04] <heycam> anybody else notice lately that the find bar can become non-functional sometimes? the text box doesn't get focussed when pressing Cmd+F, and clicking up/down buttons doesn't actually do any finding.
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849. # [08:12] <Weebs> hello
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851. # [08:12] <Weebs> anybody happen to be up that knows where I can find a list of the namespace thingys like @mozilla.org/network/file-input-stream;1
852. # [08:13] <Weebs> because they're not always listed on the mozilla docs, and it can be a pain to figure em out sometimes
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854. # [08:14] <@khuey> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=%40mozilla.org ?
855. # [08:14] <@khuey> not exactly a list
856. # [08:14] <@khuey> there's no single list of contract IDs
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858. # [08:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ttaubert: ping
859. # [08:15] <ttaubert> Tomcat|sheriffduty: just saw it :(
860. # [08:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> do you want to fix and i close the tree or do we backout ?
861. # [08:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
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863. # [08:16] <Weebs> haha thank you khuey I think this should work just fine
864. # [08:16] <Weebs> so they're called contract IDs?
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867. # [08:16] <@khuey> yes
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870. # [08:17] <@khuey> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Code_snippets/JS_XPCOM#Contract_IDs
871. # [08:17] <ttaubert> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I'm a little confused. I pushed to try multiple times and everything was green but now ASAN is failing?
872. # [08:18] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm ttaubert its not just asan or ?
873. # [08:18] <ttaubert> Tomcat|sheriffduty: that's the same patch on try: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=cd5cfdb1c5af (the android failures have another cause)
874. # [08:19] <ttaubert> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I don't see any other failures?
875. # [08:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30188421&tree=Fx-Team thats the linux build after your push
876. # [08:19] <ttaubert> wat?
877. # [08:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> so fitzgen pushed a checkin after yours and the linux build there turned also red
878. # [08:20] * joduinn-biab is now known as joduinn
879. # [08:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hmmmm
880. # [08:20] <ttaubert> I don't think something like https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/48ba597444e8 would need clobbering, would it?
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882. # [08:21] <@khuey> I hate reviewing patches on top of things that haven't landed
883. # [08:21] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> did now a clobber and retriggered the builds
884. # [08:21] <@khuey> I can't use MXR or anything useful
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887. # [08:22] <ttaubert> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thx. otherwise we'll have to back it out :/
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889. # [08:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ttaubert: closing the tree for the retrigger to see if they come back
890. # [08:22] <ttaubert> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ok. thx and sorry
891. # [08:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np :)
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904. # [08:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1525f72e55ea - Lukas Nordin - Bug 243412: Updated reftests for css3-ui box-sizing with correct values and better descriptions of the tests; r=dbaron
905. # [08:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3501cfab6b5 - Scott Johnson - Bug 243412: Add reftests for css3-ui box-sizing in W3C format. r=dbaron
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924. # [08:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ttaubert: did now the backout since another retrigger of the linux debug build failed
925. # [08:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> but will sent a mail to the other sheriffs re try vs fx-team run
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927. # [08:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> if there is anything different or something we can improve
928. # [08:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> will cc you
929. # [08:46] <ttaubert> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hm... here's another try run, just to prove I'm not crazy with the same patch https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=892a830aff1e
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931. # [08:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah :/
932. # [08:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ttaubert: mail sent
933. # [08:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> included your 2 try urls in there
934. # [08:50] <ttaubert> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thx!
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938. # [08:55] <ttaubert> Tomcat|sheriffduty: commented in the bug with the backout cset
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943. # [08:57] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ttaubert: cool thx
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960. # [09:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37f9a5424227 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 933354. Avoid calling GetDeltaToPerspectiveOrigin for elements that don't have perspective. r=heycam
961. # [09:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf7538789583 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 931464. Part 1: GetFieldSetBlockFrame needs to drill down through a scrollframe if necessary. r=mats
962. # [09:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/abda071349c4 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 931464. Part 2: nsFieldSetFrame::Insert/Append/RemoveFrames should not be called. r=mats
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969. # [09:21] <Weebs> does anyone know much about the HTML5 audio element and duration?
970. # [09:21] <Weebs> i'm writing a music player addon
971. # [09:21] <Weebs> and I've tried setting an audio tag's src in a page-worker to a file:// URI and also a base-64 data URI
972. # [09:21] <Weebs> but either way I see to get +Inf on the duration
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975. # [09:25] <@khuey> mmm
976. # [09:25] <@khuey> there's a bug on this
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979. # [09:25] <kinetik> Weebs: what format audio are you using?
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981. # [09:26] <Weebs> mp3
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983. # [09:26] <Weebs> I've noticed before though when trying it with an example mp3 file I found online (setting the src to an http link) it loaded the duration
984. # [09:26] <kinetik> there is bug 918135 about mp3 duration
985. # [09:26] <kinetik> not sure how related it may be
986. # [09:26] <@khuey> 583444 is what I was thinking of
987. # [09:27] <kinetik> it could be that one too, i'm not sure if mp3 needs to seek to EOF to calculate the duration or not
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990. # [09:28] <twi> depending on id3 version, it might need to
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999. # [09:32] <Weebs> ah okay yeah I tried it with an ogg file and it worked just fine
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1015. # [09:50] <ttaubert> Tomcat|sheriffduty: so the build is indeed failing when compiling in my Linux VM. still no clue why try doesn't fail though
1016. # [09:50] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ttaubert: yeah :( still interesting - not good if we have working try and failing real builds :)
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1022. # [09:59] <Weebs> so
1023. # [09:59] <Weebs> it seems like if I supply an audio tag an HTTP link to an MP3 file, it loads the duration just fine
1024. # [09:59] <Weebs> but if I give it a file URL or a data URL, it doesn't
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1026. # [09:59] <Weebs> but data URL works for ogg
1027. # [09:59] <Weebs> in getting the duration
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1029. # [10:00] <Weebs> I couldn't find any bugs exactly related to that, should I file one?
1030. # [10:00] <Weebs> also any idea on how to possibly get around this? I'm doing this as a school project and it's supposed to be feature complete tomorrow, and duration is the only thing I'm really struggling with
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1035. # [10:05] <@khuey> python -m SimpleHTTPServer?
1036. # [10:06] <@khuey> Weebs: yes, it's worth a bug
1037. # [10:06] <@khuey> the mp3 code probably expects the stream to be seekable
1038. # [10:06] <@khuey> http is, files and data aren't
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1040. # [10:10] <kinetik> Weebs: maybe try twi's suggestion, and add an IDv3 tag with the appropriate duration?
1041. # [10:11] <Weebs> not quite sure how I would do that :\
1042. # [10:11] <Weebs> I think I'm going to just not worry about it for now
1043. # [10:11] <Weebs> I gotta worry about getting metadata and album artwork and the actual player library working. I unfortunately have to present this in about 11 hours
1044. # [10:12] <Weebs> since I have ogg working that should be good enough for the teacher
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1050. # [10:15] <twi> in linux, gst-launch-1.0 filesrc location=foo.mp3 ! mpegaudioparse ! id3mux ! filesink location=foo1.mp3 should do it
1051. # [10:15] <twi> (add an id3 header with the duration)
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1053. # [10:23] <hsivonen> whatever happened to not having the OS/2 port in m-c? I see there's still OS/2 stuff under widget.
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1082. # [10:49] <paul> What's up with try? I pushed something yesterday, and I see no activity. Did I do something wrong? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=7b9304a90372
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1094. # [10:57] <edmorley> paul: hmm strange
1095. # [10:57] <edmorley> build api doesn't recognise that revision, so would seem it didn't like the trychooser syntax
1096. # [10:57] <edmorley> but it should be fine
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1098. # [10:58] <edmorley> paul: unless it didn't like there being other content on the line (but that always used to work?)
1099. # [10:59] <mcsmurf> I would just try again
1100. # [10:59] <paul> edmorley: I always push to try with this syntax
1101. # [10:59] <paul> mcsmurf: It's what I'm doing. But it's just strange
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1103. # [11:01] <edmorley> paul: maybe just try again?
1104. # [11:01] <edmorley> paul: I can't see anything obviously wrong :-(
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1108. # [11:02] <paul> edmorley: Yeah, I re-pushed. We'll see if it works this time.
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1120. # [11:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2f5e3c75e15 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 934156 - Make the SVG elements' BuildPath methods return nullptr when the element is disabled. r=dholbert
1121. # [11:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f3b26ada540 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 926546 - Modify assertion in nsComputedDOMStyle::GetPropertyCSSValue to mention the pseudo-element concerned to aid debugging. r=dbaron
1122. # [11:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c8f394c6c27e - Jonathan Watt - Bug 866659 - Avoid bad cast in nsNativeTheme::IsRangeHorizontal. r=bz
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1138. # [11:27] <TheOne> ugh, nightly crashes on start as soon as I install the vmware client integration plugin 5.1
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1158. # [11:45] <TheOne> is the latest nightly busted for anyone else?
1159. # [11:45] <TheOne> crashes on start with https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/fa7e0269-df3f-45ee-b9bb-516ab2131106
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1162. # [11:48] <gcp> worksforme
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1166. # [11:50] <gcp> I don't see anything like it in crashstats either
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1168. # [11:51] <TheOne> gcp: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/list?product=Firefox&query_search=signature&query_type=contains&reason_type=contains&date=2013-11-06&range_value=3&range_unit=days&hang_type=any&process_type=any&signature=ntdll.dll%400x39132#table
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1171. # [11:52] <gcp> ah
1172. # [11:53] <TheOne> filed bug 935430
1173. # [11:53] <alice0775> Nightly crashes( Bug 935280 and Bug 935348 )
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1181. # [12:08] <Optimizer> Night will not start for me since yesterday's update
1182. # [12:08] <Optimizer> 5th nov.
1183. # [12:08] <Optimizer> who is taking out his vendetta on me ?
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1186. # [12:11] <Optimizer> :'(
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1188. # [12:11] <Optimizer> have to work in safe mode, and even in that mode, tabs do not close . :|
1189. # [12:11] <Optimizer> I get :uncaught exception: 2147942487
1190. # [12:11] <Optimizer> halp
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1193. # [12:12] <gcp> Optimizer: known bustage it seems
1194. # [12:12] <mcsmurf> that's NS_ERROR_ILLEGAL_VALUE
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1196. # [12:13] <gcp> bug 328755
1197. # [12:13] <Optimizer> I get my stack trace with the top most frame of memvopy
1198. # [12:13] <Optimizer> srsly, 328755 ?
1199. # [12:13] <gcp> bug 935280
1200. # [12:13] <gcp> yes
1201. # [12:13] <Optimizer> oh, no I thought you said bug 328755, sooo old bug
1202. # [12:14] <gcp> I did say that
1203. # [12:14] <Optimizer> and I thought you meant it. :D
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1205. # [12:15] <jwatt> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ping
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1207. # [12:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jwatt: pong
1208. # [12:16] <jwatt> Tomcat|sheriffduty: do you know what's up with the Windows XP Debug red?
1209. # [12:16] <Optimizer> gps: that is the one. Thanks . its the same stack trace.
1210. # [12:17] <Optimizer> but I wonder that how are others able to start the nightly
1211. # [12:17] <Optimizer> mine wont start, just crash
1212. # [12:17] <Optimizer> unless I open in safe mode, where tabs once opened, do not close.
1213. # [12:17] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jwatt: hm maybe https://tomcat.pastebin.mozilla.org/3436842
1214. # [12:18] <Gijs> Optimizer: download a build from current m-c tip and try that?
1215. # [12:18] <Gijs> Optimizer: (ie from the build dir linked on tbpl)
1216. # [12:18] <Optimizer> too late. already started.
1217. # [12:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4fca788bd150 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 927930 - Make nsJSInspector cycle collected as it has JS::Value members r=jimb r=smaug
1218. # [12:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/11509930722e - Jon Coppeard - Bug 935022 - Fix the interaction between generational GC zeal mode and disabling generational collection r=terrence
1219. # [12:18] <Optimizer> :)
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1221. # [12:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jwatt: retriggered also this build now
1222. # [12:19] <jwatt> Tomcat|sheriffduty: that error message is...not very helpful
1223. # [12:19] <jwatt> Tomcat|sheriffduty: okay, thanks
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1226. # [12:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jwatt: yeah tpbl is not helpful in this case
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1238. # [12:31] <ladessa> hygh
1239. # [12:31] <ladessa> hi*
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1246. # [12:35] <Optimizer> wow, the latest build zip on the tinderbuild ftp page is broken
1247. # [12:38] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty, jwatt: it's more that the build system isn't outputting helpful failure strings - there's not a huge amount to match against there (and it's a moving target) :-(
1248. # [12:38] <edmorley> match against in tbpl's parser that is
1249. # [12:38] <edmorley> Optimizer: could you clarify?
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1251. # [12:38] <Optimizer> i downloaded http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-central-win32/1383714839/firefox-28.0a1.en-US.win32.zip and the zip is onvalid
1252. # [12:38] <Optimizer> downloading again to see if it was a partial download issue
1253. # [12:38] <Optimizer> invalid*
1254. # [12:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/175bebe48034 - Jan de Mooij - Back out 495a9c210b91 (bug 933798) for causing crashes like bug 935348.
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1256. # [12:39] <Optimizer> ok, so redownload fixed the issue
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1258. # [12:39] <edmorley> jwatt: which cset needs backing out?
1259. # [12:40] <edmorley> jwatt: has failed on the next push too
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1261. # [12:40] <jwatt> edmorley: 0f3b26ada540 I guess :/
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1264. # [12:42] <edmorley> jwatt: ty
1265. # [12:42] <jwatt> edmorley: and I was critisizing the output in the log (whichever tool is responsible for that), not the tbpl parser ;)
1266. # [12:43] <jwatt> not too surprised that the tbpl parser can't do much with that
1267. # [12:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc13acdbd93f - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 0f3b26ada540 (bug 926546) for build failures on Windows CLOSED TREE
1268. # [12:43] <edmorley> jwatt: yeah I know you were, the above was more in response to Tomcat|sheriffduty's comment :-)
1269. # [12:43] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
1270. # [12:43] <jwatt> ok :)
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1284. # [13:01] <hsivonen> can I really have bad enough luck that I'm the one whose telemetry addition pushes the C code generated from Histograms.json over a magic size limit?
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1286. # [13:03] <hsivonen> already on file: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=932281
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1301. # [13:23] <hsivonen> do comm-central telemetry variables go into mozilla-central Histograms.json?
1302. # [13:24] <Standard8> iirc yes
1303. # [13:24] <hsivonen> Standard8: thanks
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1322. # [13:44] <paul> If I want to install Linux in a VM on osx, should I go for VirtualBox, Parallels or VMWare?
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1324. # [13:45] <Optimizer> I like VMWare
1325. # [13:45] <Optimizer> how it has a very sleek Unity option
1326. # [13:45] <till> KaiRo: ping
1327. # [13:45] <paul> Optimizer: I'm more concerned about performance
1328. # [13:45] <till> paul: VirtualBox works fine, but VMWare is faster, I think
1329. # [13:46] <Optimizer> yeah for me too vmware was faster
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1332. # [13:46] <@khuey> paul: what do you want to do in this vm?
1333. # [13:46] <paul> khuey: build firefox
1334. # [13:47] <till> paul: but at least for Win8.1 clients, Parallels appears to be fastest on many dimensions: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/the-latest-virtualization-showdown-parallels-desktop-9-vs-vmware-fusion-6/4/
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1336. # [13:47] <paul> khuey: and build B2G too (apparently, we can't build B2G for Keon on Mac)
1337. # [13:47] <Optimizer> i ran mint in windows 7 on vmware. firefox built in 30 minutes.
1338. # [13:47] <till> paul: except if you have 16 CPU cores
1339. # [13:48] <Optimizer> :D
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1341. # [13:49] <paul> khuey: what do you recommend?
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1343. # [13:50] <@khuey> paul: well the B2G emulator doesn't work in virtualbox
1344. # [13:50] <@khuey> so if you plan to do that ...
1345. # [13:50] <peterv> Tomcat|sheriffduty: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=935277#c4 seems wrong
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1347. # [13:51] <@khuey> paul: I would just use VMWare
1348. # [13:51] <@khuey> there's really no reason not to
1349. # [13:51] <paul> khuey: ok. thx.
1350. # [13:51] <@khuey> but I've never used Parallels
1351. # [13:51] <@khuey> because I don't like macs :-)
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1353. # [13:52] <KaiRo> till: pong
1354. # [13:52] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> peterv: hmmm
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1356. # [13:53] <peterv> Tomcat|sheriffduty: the bug isn't really fixed, the test was disabled and the bug is about reenabling
1357. # [13:53] <till> KaiRo: is there a way to get reports for earlier than 28 days ago for a specific signature?
1358. # [13:53] <KaiRo> till: I don't think so
1359. # [13:54] <till> :(
1360. # [13:54] <till> KaiRo: ok, thanks
1361. # [13:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm peterv the stuff got just merged from m-i to m-c and was running m-c merge, but yeah will reopen the bug
1362. # [13:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> peterv: thanks!
1363. # [13:54] <peterv> ok, thx
1364. # [13:55] <KaiRo> till: you could ask the socorro team in #breakpad though
1365. # [13:55] <till> KaiRo: ah, thanks. Will do.
1366. # [13:56] <edmorley> peterv: mcMerge will leave bugs open if [leave open] is put in the whiteboard
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1368. # [13:57] <peterv> edmorley: yeah, I didn't file that bug
1369. # [13:57] <peterv> edmorley: or do the disabling of the test
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1371. # [13:57] <edmorley> peterv: ah (sorry I didn't open the bug, was just skimming scrollback)
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1376. # [14:01] <peterv> no worries
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1378. # [14:04] <Gijs> edmorley, Tomcat|sheriffduty: any idea what could be up with the windows opt build on UX?
1379. # [14:04] <Gijs> I've retriggered twice now, all of them are burning
1380. # [14:04] <Gijs> debug is fine
1381. # [14:04] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> checks
1382. # [14:04] <Gijs> the errors don't make sense to me
1383. # [14:04] <Gijs> it's a merge cset
1384. # [14:04] * Gijs is confused
1385. # [14:04] <Gijs> (the merge was conflict-less)
1386. # [14:05] <Gijs> Maybe it needs a clobber? But I don't understand why mc wouldn't and ux would.
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1388. # [14:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah i would try a clobber
1389. # [14:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> or shall i
1390. # [14:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> maybe https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/clobberer/?branch=ux would work
1391. # [14:06] * Gijs uses that
1392. # [14:07] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: so this will apply for the next push, right?
1393. # [14:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: do you know if this will work also for a retrigger ?
1394. # [14:07] <Gijs> it's OK
1395. # [14:07] <Gijs> I'm pushing a merge in a few minutes, as soon as I've sorted out this conflict
1396. # [14:08] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: yes
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1401. # [14:14] <Gijs> how do I get hgweb to show the csets that deleted a file?
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1403. # [14:14] <Gijs> (when looking at the log of a file)
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1423. # [14:32] <froydnj> NeilAway: wait, what? where?
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1429. # [14:33] <jwatt> do we have a number parser somewhere that matches this: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/common-microsyntaxes.html#valid-floating-point-number ?
1430. # [14:34] <froydnj> jwatt: double-conversion in mfbt probably supports that
1431. # [14:34] <Gijs> jwatt: is that somehow different from parseFloat() in JS?
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1433. # [14:35] * Gijs apologizes for not knowing the spec for parsefloat by heart
1434. # [14:35] <jwatt> froydnj: thanks, I'll take a look
1435. # [14:35] <jwatt> Gijs: I don't know it either, so I don't know
1436. # [14:35] <jwatt> I'd hope it's the same
1437. # [14:36] <Gijs> jwatt: I mean, one difference is that parseFloat("10hello jwatt, this is fun, isn't it?") will yield 10, and not some form of "invalid number".
1438. # [14:36] <jwatt> well, hopefully it's the same as Number(str)
1439. # [14:37] <jwatt> maybe annevk_ knows
1440. # [14:37] <Gijs> jwatt: actually, the specced algorithm there would do the same, it seems
1441. # [14:38] <Gijs> it collects digit characters, so suffixed blurbs of non-digits would be conforming.
1442. # [14:38] <Gijs> (at least from my amateur spec-reader eyes)
1443. # [14:39] <froydnj> boo, no nightly with session restore fixes yet
1444. # [14:39] <annevk_> Gijs: it's more precise
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1446. # [14:40] <annevk> Though we should probably implement it using the same algorithm for now, I guess
1447. # [14:40] <Gijs> jwatt: ^
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1449. # [14:40] <annevk> But in theory HTML handles arbitrary precision
1450. # [14:40] <annevk> Which floating points, well, do not
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1452. # [14:40] <Gijs> annevk: hmm?
1453. # [14:41] <Gijs> "Conversion: Let S be the set of finite IEEE 754 double-precision floating-point values except −0, but with two special values added: 2^1024 and −2^1024. Let rounded-value be the number in S that is closest to value, selecting the number with an even significand if there are two equally close values. (The two special values 2^1024 and −2^1024 are considered to have even significands...
1454. # [14:41] <Gijs> ...for this...
1455. # [14:41] <Gijs> ...purpose.)"
1456. # [14:41] <jwatt> thanks
1457. # [14:41] <NeilAway> froydnj: I was served insecure content when I submitted a comment
1458. # [14:41] <annevk> Gijs: oh
1459. # [14:42] <Gijs> annevk: that doesn't seem like arbitrary precision to me... am I missing something?
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1461. # [14:42] <annevk> Gijs: maybe Ian just wanted to avoid dependency on JS then, there must have been something else ugh
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1463. # [14:42] <froydnj> NeilAway: oh. file a bug?
1464. # [14:42] <Gijs> annevk: "ugh" is apt. ;)
1465. # [14:43] <annevk> Gijs: jwatt: http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2011-August/032792.html
1466. # [14:43] <NeilAway> if 10^10^2 is a Google, what's 2^2^10?
1467. # [14:43] <NeilAway> *googol
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1472. # [14:44] <froydnj> googol^3
1473. # [14:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a775f0d923a6 - Chris Lord - Bug 881451 - Remove unused members of TiledLayerProperties. r=BenWa
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1476. # [14:48] <jwatt> annevk: thanks
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1479. # [14:49] <annevk> whitespace :/
1480. # [14:50] <Yoric> jmaher|afk: ping
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1490. # [14:57] <paul> RyanVM: what happened with bug 914077?
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1492. # [14:57] <paul> RyanVM: can't apply the patch?
1493. # [14:57] <RyanVM> paul: i'll be pushing v2.1 to fx-team in a bit
1494. # [14:58] <paul> RyanVM: erf, sorry, misreading bugzilla.
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1500. # [15:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/703017b4d00d - Simone Carletti - Bug 925176 - Remove exceptions for .OM gTLD. r=gerv
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1502. # [15:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0d87190415e - Andy Wingo - Bug 922070 - Define SrcNoteType, js_SrcNoteSpec using higher-order macro. r=njn
1503. # [15:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e495c0d3c240 - Vendelin Ruzicka - Bug 933040 - Warn for showModalDialog uses. r=jst, r=sicking
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1510. # [15:08] <GPHemsley> Could somebody mute new user comments on this bug? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=537013
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1512. # [15:10] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> i guess gavin or glob might be able to do GPHemsley
1513. # [15:10] <GPHemsley> thanks
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1515. # [15:11] <glob> GPHemsley, looking
1516. # [15:12] <GPHemsley> thanks :)
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1519. # [15:12] <glob> GPHemsley, i don't see a massive amount of comments there from new users
1520. # [15:13] <GPHemsley> there's a lot of complaining that's been rolling in the last few days
1521. # [15:13] <glob> and imho the comments there seem reasonable
1522. # [15:13] <GPHemsley> it just doesn't seem to me to be the appropriate place to complain about how Firefox is always taking features away
1523. # [15:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61d3b1f4614c - ISHIKAWA, Chiaki - Bug 931703 - Add unhandled/missing errno for NSRESULT_FOR_ERRNO macros. r=bsmedberg
1524. # [15:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd8b12b85220 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 930924 - Open workers from xpcshell. r=bent
1525. # [15:14] <GPHemsley> (read: such bugmail doesn't interest me ;) )
1526. # [15:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/727ea6823984 - Sankha Narayan Guria - Bug 931328 - IonMonkey: Inline Math.hypot(x, y). r=jandem
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1528. # [15:15] <RyanVM> GPHemsley: so remind everyone of the number of people CCed and point them to the etiquette page
1529. # [15:15] <GPHemsley> RyanVM: meh :P
1530. # [15:15] <RyanVM> honestly, there's way worse examples of "me too" bugs than that
1531. # [15:16] <GPHemsley> oh, I know
1532. # [15:16] <GPHemsley> I'm just not CC'd on many of them ;)
1533. # [15:16] <GPHemsley> but I won't push the issue
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1535. # [15:17] <GPHemsley> glob, RyanVM: Thanks for looking into it.
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1557. # [15:25] <RyanVM> bsmedberg: ping
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1563. # [15:28] <@ted> oh god this build times email thread is still going
1564. # [15:28] * edmorley is now known as edmorley|sheriffduty
1565. # [15:28] <@ted> gps: never email eng-team-all again
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1568. # [15:29] <jwatt> heh
1569. # [15:29] <Optimizer> thread size grows while the build time decreases :)
1570. # [15:29] <froydnj> eng-team-all? why do I not get those :(
1571. # [15:29] <@ted> froydnj: does your reporting chain lead to brendan?
1572. # [15:30] * Tomcat|sheriffduty is now known as Tomcat
1573. # [15:30] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ted: ?
1574. # [15:30] <@ted> edmorley|sheriffduty: gps emailed eng-team-all about "buying new hardware will make your build faster"
1575. # [15:30] <@ted> and it blew up into a neverending thread
1576. # [15:30] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ah
1577. # [15:30] <froydnj> ted: pretty sure it does
1578. # [15:30] <glob> i wonder why that thread isn't on a public forum
1579. # [15:30] <@ted> froydnj: yeah, looks like it
1580. # [15:30] <@ted> edmorley|sheriffduty: presumably you should have gotten the emails
1581. # [15:30] * RyanVM doesn't get them either
1582. # [15:30] <@ted> IIRC eng-team-all is generated from phonebook entries now
1583. # [15:31] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ted: what's the summary?
1584. # [15:31] <@ted> bsmedberg: IT fixed that, right?
1585. # [15:31] <Tomcat> yeah same here
1586. # [15:31] <edmorley|sheriffduty> lol
1587. # [15:31] <@ted> edmorley|sheriffduty: "Firefox build times on modern CPUs / please upgrade your hardware"
1588. # [15:31] <@ted> AFAIK it uses the phonebook entries and just takes everyone whose manager chain leads to brendan
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1591. # [15:32] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ted: hmm must be broken
1592. # [15:32] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ted: I can't find any such emails
1593. # [15:32] <@ted> odd
1594. # [15:32] <froydnj> suppose it's not archived anywhere
1595. # [15:32] <Tomcat> yeah no mail here either :(
1596. # [15:32] <@ted> doubtful, since this is an alias and not a list
1597. # [15:32] * edmorley|sheriffduty wonders what other emails we've missed
1598. # [15:32] <@ted> why are you people so upset
1599. # [15:32] <Optimizer> I think its a feel good thing
1600. # [15:32] <@ted> this thread is mostly content-free
1601. # [15:32] <Optimizer> less spam thread
1602. # [15:32] <Optimizer> :D
1603. # [15:32] <@ted> seriously
1604. # [15:32] <AutomatedTester> WHY AM I SHOUTING!
1605. # [15:32] <glob> edmorley|sheriffduty, that list is rarely used
1606. # [15:33] <@ted> i have like 100 emails in my inbox
1607. # [15:33] <froydnj> reading a good flamewar reminds me of slashdot
1608. # [15:33] <froydnj> or content-free thread, either/or
1609. # [15:33] <@ted> hah
1610. # [15:33] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ted: it was more thinking other more important items were missed
1611. # [15:33] <edmorley|sheriffduty> glob: ok, ty
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1613. # [15:33] <@ted> edmorley|sheriffduty: i don't think it gets used much honestly
1614. # [15:33] <edmorley|sheriffduty> I'll file a bug to see if it can be fixed anyway
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1616. # [15:34] <froydnj> edmorley|sheriffduty: please cc me on that bug?
1617. # [15:34] <Tomcat> me too :)
1618. # [15:34] <glob> edmorley|sheriffduty, indeed
1619. # [15:34] <edmorley|sheriffduty> froydnj: ok :-)
1620. # [15:34] <froydnj> edmorley|sheriffduty: thx!
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1624. # [15:34] * @ted tries to find the bug where it was setup
1625. # [15:34] <@ted> bug 886979
1626. # [15:34] <bz_away> edmorley|sheriffduty: never recall getting mail to this address before
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1630. # [15:36] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ted: ty
1631. # [15:36] <jmaher> Yoric: pong
1632. # [15:36] <Yoric> jmaher: Hi.
1633. # [15:37] <jmaher> how are you Yoric
1634. # [15:37] <Yoric> Fine, thanks.
1635. # [15:37] <Yoric> jmaher: I'm thinking about how we could make it clear in each test whether we are doing main thread file I/O.
1636. # [15:37] <jmaher> you mean mochitest/reftest?
1637. # [15:38] <Yoric> Actually, I'm thinking of xpcshell tests.
1638. # [15:38] <jmaher> Yoric: ok
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1640. # [15:38] <Yoric> Assuming that we have a way to detect main thread I/O (which we kind of do), what would it take to 1/ make this detection part of the test harness; 2/ make it some kind of orange; 3/ convince people that it's a good idea?
1641. # [15:38] <Yoric> ?
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1644. # [15:38] <jmaher> Yoric: do you have a magic want?
1645. # [15:38] <jmaher> err eand
1646. # [15:38] <jmaher> wand
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1649. # [15:39] <Yoric> Not at hand, no.
1650. # [15:39] <Yoric> I could fetch one, though.
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1652. # [15:39] <jmaher> how could we detect main thread I/O?
1653. # [15:40] <Yoric> jmaher: Bug 902587.
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1656. # [15:40] <jmaher> Yoric: can that be output to a log file?
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1664. # [15:41] <Yoric> jmaher: Not yet, but that's bug 935482.
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1670. # [15:43] * jmaher looking at a few things
1671. # [15:44] <edmorley|sheriffduty> filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=935512 for the eng-team-all@ issue
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1677. # [15:46] <jimm> anyone know how to get profiler labels set with PROFILER_LABEL to show up in profiles?
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1680. # [15:48] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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1685. # [15:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0043d3d9ce36 - Benoit Girard - Bug 935476 - Remove OpenGL printf on mac startup. r=nical
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1690. # [15:52] <jimm> BenWa: ping
1691. # [15:52] <BenWa> jimm: pong
1692. # [15:52] <jimm> BenWa: hey, if there's a profile label set in code via PROFILER_LABEL, how would I view that in the profile viewer?
1693. # [15:52] <jimm> for example PROFILER_LABEL("nsDisplayList", "PaintRoot");
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1695. # [15:53] <jimm> I'd like to know how much time we spend in that method
1696. # [15:53] <BenWa> nsDisplayList::PaintRoot if it got smapled
1697. # [15:53] <BenWa> jimm: With sampling you will only get a statistical approximation
1698. # [15:53] <jimm> BenWa: right, but how do I view that information? I don't see any annotations in the viewer for 'nsDisplayList::PaintRoot'
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1700. # [15:54] <BenWa> just type paintroot in the filter box middle left
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1703. # [15:54] <jimm> ah filter box
1704. # [15:54] <BenWa> if it doesn't show up then likely it never got sampled over the interval
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1707. # [15:55] <jimm> it did, thanks. that's what I was looking for
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1722. # [16:04] <jmaher> Yoric: commented in the bug
1723. # [16:04] <Yoric> thanks
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1738. # [16:12] <paul> bz: "to rev the docshell IID" ? What does that mean?
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1742. # [16:15] <Ms2ger> paul, ./mach update-uuids nsIDocShell
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1749. # [16:18] <paul> Ms2ger: I see
1750. # [16:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3982cd8d5cd3 - Brian Hackett - Bug 935032 - Fix miscellaneous uses of JSContext in IonBuilder, r=shu,jandem.
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1752. # [16:20] <paul> Ms2ger: I added a method to nsIDocShell. Why is it needed to change its uuid?
1753. # [16:20] <Ms2ger> Binary addons break otherwise
1754. # [16:20] <avih> bsmedberg: hey, the status report page doesn't seem to respond (worked few minutes ago)
1755. # [16:20] <Ms2ger> (I'm not here ;))
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1771. # [16:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e76f1912071 - Ted Mielczarek - bug 932349 - add kill_on_timeout parameter to ProcessHandlerMixin. r=ahal
1772. # [16:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b6b291d68a7f - Ted Mielczarek - bug 932349 - make Mochitest use kill_on_timeout=False and an onTimeout handler. r=jhammel
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1776. # [16:30] <Yoric> ttaubert: Do you have some time to look at bug 883609?
1777. # [16:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f9458266db7 - Tom Schuster - Bug 934557 - Handlify JS::ToBoolean and remove JS_ValueToBoolean. r=terrence
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1791. # [16:36] <@ted> Yoric: it's not clear to me that preventing main-thread IO in xpcshell tests should really be a goal
1792. # [16:36] <@ted> if it makes writing tests harder...
1793. # [16:37] <Yoric> ted: I'd like people to be aware if they are doing main thread I/O.
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1795. # [16:37] <Yoric> The problem is not the code in the tests themselves, the problem is the code called by these tests.
1796. # [16:37] <@ted> sure, but do you think checking that in xpcshell tests is the right vehicle?
1797. # [16:37] <Yoric> Where would you do that?
1798. # [16:38] <@ted> i would think mochitest/browser-chrome would be the more relevant places
1799. # [16:38] <@ted> since they actually test the browser
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1807. # [16:44] <Yoric> I was starting with the assumption that introducing this in xpcshell tests would make it easier to actually get tests that pass the "no main thread IO" requirement.
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1809. # [16:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0478ca454250 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 935130 - mem.log console message should say Zones Collected not Compartments Collected. r=terrence
1810. # [16:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1413b0652528 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 934035 - Make PeerConnectionObserver's constructor not take an object argument. r=jib
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1812. # [16:45] <RyanVM> my, what an entertaining /. thread on Mozilla & 3rd party cookies
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1817. # [16:47] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ted: I don't suppose you could forward the message that started the "Firefox build times on modern CPUs" thead?
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1819. # [16:48] <edmorley|sheriffduty> (just so I have some context, now the list is fixed)
1820. # [16:48] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty: is it presumably the same one he put on his blog and dev-platform?
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1825. # [16:49] <edmorley|sheriffduty> RyanVM: ah just seen the blog post (I only check my RSS reader once a day normally, and at the end, otherwise it's a timesink)
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1827. # [16:50] <@ted> yeah, i think it's that
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1837. # [16:57] <@ted> edmorley|sheriffduty: they fixed the mail alias? (what was broken about it?)
1838. # [16:58] <longsonr> any b.m.o admins around?
1839. # [16:58] <glob> longsonr, yessir
1840. # [16:58] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ted: the script must use the "is a manager?" bit to traverse the tree; a few managers were missing theirs (and maybe more yet to be fixed)
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1842. # [16:59] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ted: have asked if a sanity-checking script can be run
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1846. # [17:00] <@ted> edmorley|sheriffduty: ah
1847. # [17:00] <@ted> yeah, requires people to have correct phonebook info
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1853. # [17:02] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ted: I'm presuming it's an optimisation to save traversing everyone and calculating back from the "who is my manager" field
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1855. # [17:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1ce58dc63d0 - Honza Bambas - Bug 931383 - nsICacheEntryOpenCallback is not defined in pageInfo.js, test_clearHistory_shutdown.js, r=dao
1856. # [17:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da5f325e4f72 - Honza Bambas - Bug 927878 - crash in nsDOMOfflineResourceList::ApplicationCacheAvailable(nsIApplicationCache*) when installing an app, r=jduell
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1873. # [17:12] <edmorley|sheriffduty> RyanVM: have disabled t-w864-ix-018 for lots of retries on windows non-try test jobs, hopefully should stick and not need a graceful shutdown, but if you happen to see it later today please give it a whack
1874. # [17:12] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty: thanks, will do
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1893. # [17:24] <jesup|laptop> IETF technical plenary will be starting soon (9am PST); http://www.ietf.org/live/ on how to harden the internet and applications against pervasive monitoring; Bruce Schneier will be part of the panel and doing the introduction
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1897. # [17:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a705d4de9193 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 933369 part 2 - Fix Load/Store TypedArrayElementStatic type policy. r=bhackett
1898. # [17:26] <jesup|laptop> There will be a later "PerPass" session to go into the issue in more detail following (1pm PST; see http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/88/ for info on how to watch live)
1899. # [17:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a21e15f1e484 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 933369 part 1 - Improve heuristics for Ion try-catch compilation. r=bhackett
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1920. # [17:32] <philor> RyanVM: bustage
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1924. # [17:33] <RyanVM> philor: i bust lots of things
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1926. # [17:33] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty: philor: backing out 727ea6823984
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1932. # [17:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc6beafe17c9 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 727ea6823984 (bug 931328) for Windows jit-test failures.
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1947. # [17:37] <philor> whee, OOM in ScanRoots!
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1950. # [17:37] <RyanVM> philor: SCORE!
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1952. # [17:38] <RyanVM> also, CC: mccr8
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1954. # [17:38] <philor> yeah, did
1955. # [17:38] <catalinb> bz: ping
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1957. # [17:38] <philor> this was actually number 2, Tomcat filed it overnight
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1974. # [17:43] <RyanVM> ttaubert: can you try pushing bug 934091 to Try again?
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1976. # [17:43] <edmorley|sheriffduty> philor: thank you for spotting, deep in bugmail (yey)
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2023. # [18:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96e748983485 - Terrence Cole - Bug 935156 - Exactly root the script stored in BytecodeParser; r=wingo
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2038. # [18:07] <gps> ted: I am seriously regretting sending that email to that list
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2042. # [18:09] <Mossop> Suure, crashing the app is totally the correct response to encountering a corrupt zip file *sigh*
2043. # [18:09] <gcp> gps: ME TOO
2044. # [18:09] <dholbert> gps, on the bright side: if you'd been more audible in the platform meeting yesterday, then you would have kicked off the same discussion there, and we'd all still be sitting in that meeting :)
2045. # [18:09] <gps> dholbert: ironically I wasn't audible in the meeting yesterday because the microphone wasn't properly configured on my new MacBook Pro :)
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2047. # [18:10] <dholbert> gps, oh no! everyone, get new hardware *and* hearing aids
2048. # [18:10] * bz wonders what all the trouble is
2049. # [18:10] <bz> I mean...
2050. # [18:10] <bz> It's 61 mails
2051. # [18:10] <bz> drop in a bucket. ;)
2052. # [18:10] <gcp> bz gets that many bugmails per hour
2053. # [18:10] <bz> er, 50 mails
2054. # [18:11] <bz> gcp: now that you mention it...
2055. # [18:11] * bz checks
2056. # [18:11] <gps> some of the comments deserve responses / rebuttals. but at this case, I'm not going to pollute inboxes
2057. # [18:11] <gps> s/case/point/
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2061. # [18:12] <bz> Looks like I've received and deleted about 400 emails since the time gps sent his mail
2062. # [18:12] <gps> in related news, I think most engineers don't follow the public dev.{planning,platform} mailing lists
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2064. # [18:12] <bz> Not counting the thread he started
2065. # [18:12] <bz> (and not counting the ones I've not deleted yet, but there are just a few of those)
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2067. # [18:12] <Ms2ger> gps, they should!
2068. # [18:12] <bz> gps: Most engineers are confused, then. :(
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2070. # [18:13] <evilpie> gps: what is this about?
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2072. # [18:13] <gps> oh no, it's spilled over into IRC!
2073. # [18:13] <gcp> we should gps let more things break so we can see who doesn't read the newsgroup
2074. # [18:13] <gcp> and doesn't build with PSUEDORECURSE, for example
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2081. # [18:15] <gps> evilpie: the thread about how much faster new machines are at building the tree. it devolved into a philosophical discussion of the existence of man
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2084. # [18:16] <evilpie> didn't see that on the mailinglist
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2087. # [18:17] <gps> evilpie: I started it on the internal all-engineers list b/c it had to deal with mozilla purchasing foo
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2089. # [18:17] <evilpie> oh
2090. # [18:17] <gps> essentially linked to http://gregoryszorc.com/blog/2013/11/05/macbook-pro-firefox-build-times-comparison/ and was like "y u run older hardware"
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2095. # [18:18] <mcsmurf> is David Teller on IRC?
2096. # [18:18] <gps> mcsmurf: Yoric
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2098. # [18:18] <mcsmurf> or better said: What's his...ok
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2100. # [18:18] <smontagu> bz: got a minute and a windows machine?
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2103. # [18:19] <bz> smontagu: yes, and "maybe"
2104. # [18:19] <bbondy> what's the difference between mach build binaries and mach build? Why would you use mach build binaries instead of just mach build dir-name-where-changes-are or just mach build if you pulled in a lot of changes?
2105. # [18:19] <bz> smontagu: it depends on what needs to be done with the Windows machine....
2106. # [18:19] <smontagu> http://smontagu.org/testcases/xulscroll-min.html
2107. # [18:20] <gps> bbondy: does https://ci.mozilla.org/job/mozilla-central-docs/Build_Documentation/build-targets.html answer your question?
2108. # [18:20] <bz> smontagu: you want me to look at that on Windows?
2109. # [18:20] <smontagu> bz: it has a bug, apparently on windows only, and i want some idea where to look for it
2110. # [18:20] <gps> markh: are you around to debug bug 934713?
2111. # [18:20] <bz> Ah
2112. # [18:20] <bbondy> gps: yep it does, thanks for the link
2113. # [18:20] <bz> I certainly don't have a Windows machine with anything like an up to date tree right now
2114. # [18:21] <smontagu> bz: the interesting part is that if the page has some RTL characters on it the bug doesn't happen
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2116. # [18:21] <bz> smontagu: so I just tried this in Fx25 on Windows
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2118. # [18:21] <bz> smontagu: I see no red once the font loads
2119. # [18:21] <smontagu> I don't think it's a recent regression but I haven't checked yet
2120. # [18:21] <bz> smontagu: at least not in the setup browserstack uses....
2121. # [18:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/98bf1daa9e90 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 935494 - AssertAppPrincipal doesn't compile when MOZ_CHILD_PERMISSIONS is not defined, r=bz
2122. # [18:22] <gps> dmajor: you around to debug bug 934713?
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2125. # [18:23] <smontagu> also, the bug only happens on first load, so the reflow after loading the font seems to be critical
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2127. # [18:23] <HasilSharma> Hi I am trying to make a patch using command " hg qnew name.patch " in the repo's directory but it is showing "abort: no username supplied (see "hg help config")"
2128. # [18:23] <HasilSharma> can anybody please help, what I am doing wrong ?
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2130. # [18:24] <RyanVM> HasilSharma: have you configured hg per https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mercurial_FAQ#How_can_I_generate_a_patch_for_somebody_else_to_check-in_for_me.3F ?
2131. # [18:24] <HasilSharma> yes I have
2132. # [18:24] <RyanVM> HasilSharma: sounds like your issue is a missing username = under [ui] ?
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2136. # [18:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d3bd18a1227 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 916091 - patch 2 - nsIMessageSender should check if the principal is valid., r=smaug
2137. # [18:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fecda5f4a0df - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 916091 - patch 1 - nsIMessageSender should send the nsIPrincipal with the messages, r=smaug
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2140. # [18:25] <HasilSharma> okay sir, I will recheck and try again
2141. # [18:25] <RyanVM> HasilSharma: you can also try running |mach mercurial-setup|
2142. # [18:25] <HasilSharma> okay sir
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2147. # [18:26] <HasilSharma> mach anywhere on terminal or in the mozilla-central repo ?
2148. # [18:26] <RyanVM> has to be in a repo
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2150. # [18:26] <HasilSharma> okay sir
2151. # [18:26] <HasilSharma> thanks
2152. # [18:27] <RyanVM> yw :)
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2158. # [18:29] <@ted> bent++
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2179. # [18:34] <smontagu> bz: I encountered this on try with a patch for bug 646359, because not doing bidi resolution exposed the bug. apparenly bidi marking the line dirty masks it, so I am guessing that normally the line doesn't get marked dirty when it should
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2181. # [18:35] * smontagu supposes a regression range would be constructive
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2187. # [18:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/030e365d7c26 - Markus Stange - Bug 933964 - Don't call unifiedToolbarHeight on NSWindows that are not ToolbarWindows, r=smichaud
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2192. # [18:38] <jcranmer> ehsan would be happy
2193. # [18:39] <jcranmer> I have a patch that kills all uses of prbit.h, and thus yet another source for prtypes.h
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2195. # [18:39] <froydnj> jcranmer: woohoo
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2199. # [18:40] <jcranmer> froydnj: do you have easy access to a windows compiler right now?
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2201. # [18:41] <jcranmer> NSPR's prbit.h claims that MSVC can't optimize (a << 4) | (a >> 28) for a uint32_t a into a rol instruction
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2204. # [18:41] <jcranmer> [and then it says that it can]
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2206. # [18:42] <froydnj> jcranmer: I do have a windows machine on hand
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2209. # [18:43] <jcranmer> froydnj: could you check if msvc 2010 can compile down to a rol/ror without use of intrinsic?
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2214. # [18:45] <RyanVM> holy cow, mattwoodrow has fixes up for the amd font bug?
2215. # [18:45] <RyanVM> ohhhh myyyy
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2218. # [18:46] <froydnj> jcranmer: compiles down to rol at -O1 and -O2
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2220. # [18:47] <froydnj> jcranmer: didn't check it if DTRT for variable rotations
2221. # [18:47] <jcranmer> froydnj: okay, so the comment about "MSVC 2005 can do this" appears to be true
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2224. # [18:47] <jcranmer> everyone loves not following up on removing support for unsupported compilers
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2227. # [18:47] <froydnj> RyanVM: which bug is this?
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2229. # [18:48] <jcranmer> also, who'd have thought that touching mfbt/MathAlgorithms.h causes so much recompilation?
2230. # [18:48] <skathpalia> Fallen : U there??
2231. # [18:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/15dc352386e8 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 924983 - Introduce context actions. r=yzen
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2233. # [18:48] <RyanVM> firebot: bug 812695
2234. # [18:48] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812695 nor, --, ---, jmuizelaar, NEW, [D2D] Text Rendering Issues on Windows 7 with Platform Update KB2670838 (MSIE 10 Prerequisite) or on
2235. # [18:48] <RyanVM> froydnj ^
2236. # [18:48] <jcranmer> o_O
2237. # [18:48] <jcranmer> #include "nspr/prlog.h"
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2240. # [18:49] <RyanVM> froydnj: bug 934860 is looking promising for fixing it
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2253. # [18:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/19407884ee17 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 935593 - Remove an incorrect input event transformation. r=jimm
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2260. # [18:54] <Optimizer> what does this mean ? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3439113
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2262. # [18:57] <@gavin> ../../dist/bin/browser/chrome/pdfjs.manifest: No such file or directory
2263. # [18:57] <Optimizer> yeah, but why ?
2264. # [18:57] <@gavin> not sure
2265. # [18:57] <Optimizer> I did ./mach browser
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2267. # [18:58] <Optimizer> before it I did ./mach configure
2268. # [18:58] <@gavin> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/extensions/Makefile.in#19 failed for some reason?
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2270. # [18:58] <Optimizer> this is the latest pull from green fx-team
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2275. # [18:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9955e77cde09 - Josh Aas - Bug 934538: Remove remaining references to Growl, including the license. r=wchen
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2293. # [19:07] <firebot> Check-in:
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2295. # [19:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9957e9fe5063 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 934544. For the case when we have to copy an XPCOM string into a JSString, just ask the JS engine to do that. It'll do a better job of avoiding malloc than we can,
2296. # [19:07] <firebot> since it can sometimes store string data inline in the string. r=peterv
2297. # [19:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7a04c52fe9d4 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 927796. Make sure we don't end up with options in a bogus state where their DefaultSelected() doesn't match mIsSelected but they think their mIsSelected value
2298. # [19:07] <firebot> hasn't changed from the default. r=sicking
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2312. # [19:13] <zzzzz> RyanVM: ref the AMD fix, I've been using the 'try' build past 24 hrs, and have yet to see corrupted fonts -
2313. # [19:13] <RyanVM> awesome
2314. # [19:14] <RyanVM> btw, you should be TheVisitor on IRC too ;)
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2319. # [19:15] <zzzzz> haha, good-point
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2326. # [19:18] <grobinson|laptop> Anybody here a XUL master that has a minute to talk about bug 932116?
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2330. # [19:21] <gps> oh man. my DOM storage database is corrupted and splinter is refusing to let me submit reviews
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2335. # [19:22] <glob|mtg> urgh https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=935560#c5
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2338. # [19:22] <WeirdAl> grobinson: I'm not a master, but I am competent... your patch looks okay
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2340. # [19:23] <gps> where in my profile is local storage / DOM Storage saved?
2341. # [19:23] <paul> grobinson|laptop: can't you use -moz-user-select:text instead?
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2343. # [19:24] <grobinson|laptop> paul, can you? i'm just cargo culting this stuff from pageInfo.xul
2344. # [19:24] * grobinson|laptop tries it
2345. # [19:24] <paul> grobinson|laptop: (instead of using a textbox)
2346. # [19:24] <paul> grobinson|laptop: I don't know… try :)
2347. # [19:24] <grobinson|laptop> (right)
2348. # [19:24] <Mook_as> grobinson|laptop: also, <textbox class="plain"> I think?
2349. # [19:24] * Mook_as has also seen <description> used for that purpose, he thinks...
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2361. # [19:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b90da019d6d2 - Brian Hackett - Bug 935032 - Fix more miscellaneous uses of JSContext in IonBuilder, r=luke,jandem.
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2390. # [19:29] <grobinson|laptop> what's the IRC for ops guys?
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2392. # [19:29] <RyanVM> #it?
2393. # [19:30] <grobinson|laptop> thanks
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2397. # [19:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c904637b6e59 - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 925470 - Dont use ArgsObj-based args when OSR-ing into scripts with argsObjAliasesFormals=false. r=h4writer
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2435. # [19:39] <WeirdAl> gps: ping, you didn't actually answer my questions :)
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2437. # [19:40] <gps> WeirdAl: which question?
2438. # [19:40] <WeirdAl> bug 448069 comment 9: should we invoke make sdk as part of the make check for xulrunner
2439. # [19:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b6e3ca41348 - Jason Orendorff - Add passing tests for bug 934789, which was fixed by backing out bug 933798 in rev 175bebe48034. Thanks to luke for test cases. no_r=testonly.
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2441. # [19:41] <WeirdAl> gps: also, about which test directories should run for XULRunner builds on tbpl or whatever we're using
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2444. # [19:43] <WeirdAl> (or did I completely miss your intent?)
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2446. # [19:43] <gps> WeirdAl: sorry. commented on bug
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2449. # [19:45] <WeirdAl> thanks :)
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2452. # [19:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8222e9ae0a21 - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 915233 - DOM Promises on Workers. r=baku,smaug,bz sr=sicking
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2512. # [20:08] <@dolske> depends if you've signed up for ServiceNow Prime with free shipping.
2513. # [20:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13f60271f4f6 - Eddy Bruel - Bug 927116 - Implement parser support for import declarations; r=jorendorff
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2516. # [20:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17b2babbe34e - Eddy Bruel - Bug 927116 - Implement reflect support for import declarations; r=jorendorff
2517. # [20:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dfeee13c85fb - Eddy Bruel - Bug 927116 - Test reflect support for import declarations; r=jorendorff
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2521. # [20:09] <Waldo> dolske: at least you can do it with just one click
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2527. # [20:10] <@dolske> Waldo: patently.
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2531. # [20:10] <Waldo> \o/
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2547. # [20:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/05d1961093c1 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 934860 - Move some parts of FrameLayerBuilder::DrawThebesLayer into helper functions. r=roc
2548. # [20:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82ff69542540 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 934860 - Don't paint display items that don't intersect the current invalid rects. r=roc
2549. # [20:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1f4fbc3c9d1 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 934860 - Draw each rect of the invalid region separately on Direct2D. r=roc
2550. # [20:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3639f686cb2 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 934860 - Start and finish transactions with temporary layer managers each time we use them to ensure that these are paired. r=roc
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2553. # [20:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7bd003284099 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 934860 - Move paint region clipping into DrawThebesLayer. r=roc
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2564. # [20:18] <mjrosenb> dolske: I take that as a 'make separate requests'?
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2567. # [20:18] <@dolske> mjrosenb: I'd ask in #servicedesk.
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2572. # [20:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/80c0c69444e2 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 909490, part 3 - Add callback for zone sweeping. r=jonco
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2574. # [20:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/68d750662e15 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 905382, part 1 - Implement a read barrier for GC things. r=jonco
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2576. # [20:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28b72504ea10 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 909490, part 1 - Add per-zone data for use by embedder. r=billm
2577. # [20:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62ea644eaec8 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 909490, part 2 - Add callback for zone destruction. r=billm
2578. # [20:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a88805b4afb5 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 905382, part 2 - Implement per-zone string conversion cache. r=bz
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2586. # [20:24] <anton> RyanVM: thanks for uplifting bug 933015 for me!
2587. # [20:24] <RyanVM> anton: yw :)
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2605. # [20:33] <Mossop> gps: Any idea what this error is, early in the build: "AssertionError: Serial execution error defering <bound method _RemakeContext.remakecb of <pymake.data._RemakeContext
2606. # [20:33] <Mossop> object at 0x056EE5B0>> () {'didanything': False, 'error': False}: currently pending deque([(<bound method _RemakeContext.remakecb of <pymake.data._RemakeContext object at 0x052C2BD0>>, (), {'didanything': False, 'error': False})])"
2607. # [20:34] <gps> Mossop: use mozmake, not pymake
2608. # [20:34] <gps> Mossop: you likely have a MOZ_PSEUDO_DERECURSE line in your mozconfig that's triggering that
2609. # [20:34] <Mossop> Oh, that doesn't work with pymake?
2610. # [20:35] <gps> Mossop: you need to include "no-pymake" in the value or something
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2612. # [20:35] <gps> mozmake is faster than pymake. you should use it
2613. # [20:35] <Mossop> How do I use it?
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2618. # [20:36] <gps> Mossop: search your inbox for "Faster builds, now ; on windows, too."
2619. # [20:36] * ericjung|meeting is now known as ericjung
2620. # [20:37] <gps> Mossop: working to get it packaged in MozillaBuild so it's automatic
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2622. # [20:37] <mbrubeck> Mossop: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.dev.platform/cm0Jsgr6nr0/discussion
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2626. # [20:39] <rnewman> gps: where did our canonical git repo end up? was it releases-mozilla-centra?
2627. # [20:40] <gps> rnewman: for which repo?
2628. # [20:40] <rnewman> m-c; the replacement for ehsan's mirrr
2629. # [20:40] <gps> http://git.mozilla.org/?p=releases/gecko.git;a=summary
2630. # [20:40] <Mossop> Is MOZ_PSEUDO_DERECURSE=no-pymake already the default like the google group suggests it might be? And is that setting safe on all platforms?
2631. # [20:41] <gps> rnewman: there is no 1:1 replacement for ehsan's mirror AFAIK. there was a very long dev.planning thread on that
2632. # [20:41] <rnewman> yeah, that was what I was hoping for a conclusion to
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2634. # [20:41] <rnewman> I just want to branch m-c and do some development on it, with pull reqs
2635. # [20:42] <gps> https://github.com/mozilla/integration-gecko-projects contains all the project branches and twigs
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2637. # [20:42] <rnewman> do we have a read-write version yet?
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2640. # [20:42] <gps> rnewman: under the mozilla GH account - doubtful
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2642. # [20:42] <rnewman> sigh
2643. # [20:43] <rnewman> and I guess we don't have lightweight persistent shared branches in hg.mo, do we?
2644. # [20:43] <tbsaunde> gps: I'm thinking about just doing the thing I suggested of taking ehsan's repo and mergingthe two releng ones into it
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2646. # [20:44] <tbsaunde> but sysadminy work isn't fun so we'll see if I do it
2647. # [20:45] <rnewman> gps: perhaps I should rephrase: to your knowledge, is the only way to do collaborative development for >6 weeks with someone, without maintaining a patch stack, ending in a merge, to grab a twig?
2648. # [20:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eaaa99f26c6b - Terrence Cole - Bug 935271 - Fix ifdefs in js/src/gc/Memory.cpp; r=billm
2649. # [20:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/abe5f544e06a - Terrence Cole - Bug 930526 - Add a missing OOM check to js_InitTypedObjectClass; r=nmatsakis
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2651. # [20:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b5ffddb8bad - Terrence Cole - Bug 931912 - Suppress an exact rooting hazard false positive in nsWindowSH::Finalize; r=sfink
2652. # [20:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8fbeaf0e30d1 - Terrence Cole - Bug 935586 - Fix an exact rooting hazard in getIntrinsicValue; r=bhackett
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2656. # [20:46] <gps> rnewman: create a fork/clone on github/bitbucket/hg.mozilla.org user repo
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2659. # [20:47] <gps> i recommend Mercurial for collaboration since changeset evolution can handle pushed rebases gracefully :)
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2661. # [20:47] <gps> http://hg.gregoryszorc.com/gecko-collab has changeset evolution enabled :)
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2663. # [20:47] <rnewman> do you recommend using your hg setup?
2664. # [20:47] <gps> rnewman: for you, yes. for general audience, not yet. still a few bugs
2665. # [20:48] <gps> i would seriously consider using bookmarks over mq though
2666. # [20:48] <rnewman> and do you have a good entry point for "modern mercurial" -- CE, bookmarks, etc. -- all in one doc/blog post?
2667. # [20:48] <gps> rnewman: I have an unpublished draft :)
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2675. # [20:49] <rnewman> I'd be happy to follow through it and give comments
2676. # [20:49] <rnewman> I'm still stuck in 2010 for my hg usage
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2683. # [20:51] <nalexander> gps: you seen this? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3439792
2684. # [20:51] <sfink> gps: are you actively using evolution? How well does it work in practice?
2685. # [20:51] <nalexander> sfink: I'm using it, and it's kinda ok.
2686. # [20:51] <cpeterson> gps: what is your opinion of bitbucket? I was debating with someone about whether Mozilla could switch everything to bitbucket. It would solve a number of our tool problems.
2687. # [20:51] <nalexander> sfink: I miss git's index way more than I apprecaite evolution.
2688. # [20:52] <sfink> nalexander: you use histedit with it, I assume? (I still haven't touched histedit yet, so it's hard for me to get a clear picture on what it would be like going evolution-only.)
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2690. # [20:52] <@gavin> oh I did get an invite from doug
2691. # [20:52] <@gavin> dougt
2692. # [20:52] <@gavin> it just got marked as spam
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2695. # [20:53] <sfink> I haven't done enough with git. I never really figured out the point of the index/cache/stage/whatever.
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2697. # [20:54] <sfink> maybe I should think of it as a single-entry mq queue, which I do use all the time
2698. # [20:54] <gps> cpeterson|lunch: mozilla has needs (e.g. robust hooks) that bitbucket can't provide
2699. # [20:54] <gps> ditto for GitHub
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2702. # [20:55] <cpeterson|lunch> gps: does bitbucket have any hooks? Could we roll our own external hook system?
2703. # [20:56] <lmandel> cpeterson|lunch: joduinn-mtg explained how we need pre-commit hooks in order to enforce our current approval process. GitHub provides post commit hooks.
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2706. # [20:57] <dustin> what's the canonical "am I on windows" check for a test?
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2710. # [20:57] <gps> nalexander: hg record
2711. # [20:58] <tbsaunde> dustin: just look at navigator.whatever?
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2714. # [20:58] <mcsmurf> window.navigator.platform.indexOf("Win") !== -1
2715. # [20:58] <mcsmurf> I think..
2716. # [20:58] <nalexander> sfink: I do use hg histedit, and it's pretty good.
2717. # [20:58] <nalexander> gps: yeah, compared to git's index and magit, hg {qc}record is a joke.
2718. # [20:58] <dustin> tx
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2720. # [20:59] <cpeterson|lunch> gps: I see bitbucket has post push hooks, but has no plans for pre-commit hooks yet: https://bitbucket.org/site/master/issue/5658/allow-custom-pre-receive-hook-that-rejects
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2725. # [21:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/40b2d934b46d - David Anderson - Don't copy surfaces in DeprecatedTextureHostBasic::Lock (bug 935641, r=mattwoodrow).
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2730. # [21:04] <gps> nalexander: i agree :)
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2738. # [21:08] <nalexander> gps: and I started looking at making a magit-like mode (monky) do real staging. It's not easy to fake it, so hg just needs to build the index in. Which doesn't seem likely to happen at all, let alone soon.
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2745. # [21:13] <gps> nalexander: the problem is you are using emacs :)
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2748. # [21:14] <nalexander> gps: what do you use for complicated staging? Hunk by hunk, line by line?
2749. # [21:14] <reuben> I think gps just started an emacs vs vim argument inside a git vs hg argument
2750. # [21:14] <reuben> that has to be a prize for that
2751. # [21:14] <nalexander> reuben: yes, he gets extra points for that.
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2753. # [21:15] <Ms2ger> reuben, well, at least if we used tabs this would be easier...
2754. # [21:15] <rnewman> but he has to make his whole argument, up-front, with no other arguments accidentally included
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2767. # [21:17] <gps> nalexander: in hg, i record things then histedit later to clean things up. or I just commit as a giant commit and split later with hg uncommit
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2774. # [21:18] <nalexander> gps: splitting patches with histedit is no easier than doing it with a temporary queue, which is fucking ghetto.
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2776. # [21:19] <nalexander> gps: I haven't used hg uncommit. If it's intelligient, I could do that.
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2778. # [21:19] <gps> nalexander: uncommit is effectively git reset --soft HEAD^1
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2781. # [21:20] <nalexander> gps: and then you manually patch-reverse hunks? Doubly shitty.
2782. # [21:21] <gps> nalexander: there are no reverse hunks there. you uncommit and use record to make multiple commits
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2784. # [21:22] <nalexander> gps: so how, exactly, does this help? You still need to hg commit, and hg commit on the level of hunks is shitty.
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2786. # [21:22] <gps> nalexander: hg record == git add -i + git commit, no?
2787. # [21:23] <nalexander> gps: oh, I see. The issue is that hg {qc}record
2788. # [21:23] <nalexander> 's interface is awful, compared to magit, or really a tool with state.
2789. # [21:23] <nalexander> I should have been more clear.
2790. # [21:23] <nalexander> And fixing that means building git's index.
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2793. # [21:25] <dustin> Yoric: (still on 803188) re using URL - that needs to be imported from Components.utils, but I see lots of `if (typeof Components == "undefined")`, presumably to support use in worker threads. Does that mean URL won't work in a worker thread?
2794. # [21:25] <Yoric> dustin: Normally, they should work out of the box.
2795. # [21:25] <gps> nalexander: I just don't know why you *need* the concept of an index
2796. # [21:25] <Yoric> I'm 99% sure.
2797. # [21:26] <dustin> not per :emk (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=803188#c50) and my experimentation
2798. # [21:26] <gps> meh. i have patches to review
2799. # [21:26] <nalexander> gps: I suppose I don't *need* anything. But once you've seen the power of staging and committing, it's hard to go back to an inferior tool.
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2802. # [21:27] <dustin> Yoric: is there an easy way to run the tests *in* a worker thread so that I can be sure?
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2804. # [21:28] <gps> nalexander: i've used staging with git and can't say I miss it too much in Mercurial! maybe my workflow is just different from yours
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2806. # [21:28] <gps> nalexander: I was a Git fanboy for a while too :)
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2808. # [21:28] <Ms2ger> gps, go review patches ;)
2809. # [21:28] <Yoric> dustin: We already have a test that is executed in a worker thread, you can reuse it: mochi/worker_test_osfile_front.js, iirc.
2810. # [21:28] <dustin> tx
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2812. # [21:31] <sfink> nalexander: hg record is crap, I agree. But hg crecord has state, at least if I understand what you mean by state.
2813. # [21:32] * joduinn-mtg is now known as joduinn
2814. # [21:32] <nalexander> sfink: yeah, but it's still crap.
2815. # [21:32] * armenzg_mtg is now known as armenzg
2816. # [21:32] <sfink> I guess I have to try this magit thing. I love crecord. And qcrecord. And qcrefresh.
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2819. # [21:33] <nalexander> sfink: magit is about a million times more powerful. But it's only possible because of the index; namely, *it's not magit (or qcrecord, or whatever)* that's managing the state.
2820. # [21:33] <nalexander> That means you can edit and not screw yourself.
2821. # [21:33] <nalexander> During the staging process, that is.
2822. # [21:33] <aja> heycam|away: FYI, in case you haven't noticed it yet: http://html5.org/r/8251
2823. # [21:34] <sfink> Hm. I have the state nicely visible in an mq series that I build up and reorder via qcrecord and qcrefresh and qpush --move and friends. But I'd really need to try out magit to see how it's different.
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2826. # [21:34] <Hixie> aja, heycam|away: let me know if you have feedback on that, i didn't have much to go on despite asking around :-)
2827. # [21:34] <Hixie> just that several people wanted it
2828. # [21:35] <Hixie> and that there was no good way to do it before
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2830. # [21:35] <Hixie> (short of mutation observers)
2831. # [21:35] <aja> Hixie: seems to be sensible
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2833. # [21:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e84bb9b38fa - Terrence Cole - Bug 909972 - Avoid unnecessary GCs in asm.js compilation; r=luke
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2835. # [21:36] <grobinson> paul: i tried using -moz-user-select as we discussed earlier, but it's not working :(
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2837. # [21:36] <grobinson> the annoying thing is I think it *should*
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2839. # [21:36] <grobinson> for example, it's used in aboutDialog.css to make a <label> selectable
2840. # [21:36] <grobinson> i don't know why it would work there and not in viewCertDetails.xul
2841. # [21:37] * froydnj throws in his vote for magit
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2843. # [21:38] <froydnj> although the wannabe command-line switches in recent versions leave something to be desired
2844. # [21:38] <grobinson> also, when I click on the label in viewCertDetails.xul (now with -moz-user-select:text set), I get an error: (firefox:15009): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_clipboard_set_with_data: assertion `targets != NULL' failed
2845. # [21:39] <jcranmer> Waldo: ping?
2846. # [21:39] <grobinson> looks like Bug 546387
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2865. # [21:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/bb69444071a9 - Karl Tomlinson - Bug 924286 - Handle non-unit mVolume in BiquadFilterNode. r=ehsan, a=lsblakk
2866. # [21:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/cc12d97a80b8 - JW Wang - Bug 921695 - Part 2: Modify callers. r=karlt, a=lsblakk
2867. # [21:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8be8c7920b11 - Karl Tomlinson - Bug 898291 - Skip HRTF panner processing when input has been null long enough for output to be null. r=ehsan, a=lsblakk
2868. # [21:46] <tessarakt2> how do I enable minidump-stackwalks locally?
2869. # [21:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d8a337af4346 - Karl Tomlinson - Bug 898291 - Erase azimuth/elevation history when reset()ing HRTFPanner. r=ehsan, a=lsblakk
2870. # [21:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5e64fdaa360c - JW Wang - Bug 921695 - Part 1: Add convert function. r=karlt, a=lsblakk
2871. # [21:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/da6663c9edcd - Karl Tomlinson - Bug 898291 - Remove unused PannerNodeEngine model type variables. r=ehsan, a=lsblakk
2872. # [21:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/112e82a7612c - Karl Tomlinson - Bug 933156 - Don't send null input to EqualPowerPanningFunction. r=roc, a=lsblakk
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2884. # [21:54] <djvj> anyone else getting build errors complaining about "NO_VISIBILITY_FLAGS" in moz.build ?
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2886. # [21:55] <bz> hmm
2887. # [21:56] <bz> djvj: dromeo's stuff should be fixed now
2888. # [21:56] <bz> djvj: the server-side breakage
2889. # [21:56] <bz> where do we report bugzilla abuse?
2890. # [21:56] * bz seems to recall some channel....
2891. # [21:57] <dholbert> bz, is this the jerk who's decided he has a vendetta against longsonr?
2892. # [21:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f37ed8d81612 - Wes Kocher - Backed out 3 changesets (bug 927116) for Win debug XPCShell test bustage
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2894. # [21:57] <bz> dunno
2895. # [21:57] <bz> This is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=933964#c57
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2897. # [21:57] <bz> And following
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2900. # [21:57] <@dolske> oh, that's our Australis fanboy
2901. # [21:57] <@dolske> #it
2902. # [21:58] <bz> dolske: heh
2903. # [21:58] <@gavin> (disabled that user)
2904. # [21:58] <dholbert> oh, nevermind. looks like distinct instances of abuse from what I was thinking of
2905. # [21:58] <bz> gavin: thanks
2906. # [21:58] <@gavin> still worth reporting to IT to wipe the comment
2907. # [21:58] * bz no longer has the bits to do that
2908. # [21:58] <bz> yeah
2909. # [21:58] <bz> I commented in #it
2910. # [21:58] <@dolske> yes
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2914. # [22:01] <djvj> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3440278 <-- help plz, I don't know how to resolve this issue. Removing or commenting out the relevant line just gives me other errors
2915. # [22:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/1bd0de861b33 - Garrett Robinson - Bug 924708 - Fix regression of report-only CSP's that use policy-uri. r=sstamm, a=lsblakk
2916. # [22:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/216511295a98 - Alexandre Poirot - Bug 933273 - Prevent loading AddonManager in webbrowser actor when not explicitely needed. r=nfitzgerald, a=lsblakk
2917. # [22:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3cc5e2a6780d - Alexandre Poirot - Bug 933380 - Fix exception on app close request. r=fabrice, a=bajaj
2918. # [22:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8a0c3982f7a1 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 930589 - Hide "Edit" context menu item for reading list items. r=sriram, a=lsblakk
2919. # [22:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ca693fb76f9b - Brian Grinstead - Bug 934487 - Fix "TypeError: this.markup is undefined" in devtools b-c runs. r=pbrosset, a=test-only
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2926. # [22:06] <NeilAway> !seen njn
2927. # [22:06] <firebot> njn was last seen 17 hours, 9 minutes and 30 seconds ago, saying 'the code seems to indicate we have no common style for this matter, hooray' in #developers.
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2929. # [22:07] <yzen> Yoric: ping
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2934. # [22:12] <Mossop> gps: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/3440313 :(
2935. # [22:12] <NeilAway> bz: I think you can get a zero-length nsString with a shared buffer using nsString foo; foo.AppendASCII("");
2936. # [22:13] <Yoric> yzen: multi-tasking pong
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2939. # [22:14] <jchen> BenWa: ping?
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2941. # [22:14] <yzen> Yoric: just wanted to run by you what i got from another try of sqlite bug and better error messaging, looks like on most platforms it can't fine the necessary library - sqlite3.so on linux and sqlite.dll on windows
2942. # [22:14] <Yoric> :/
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2945. # [22:15] <BenWa> jchen: pong
2946. # [22:15] <Yoric> I guess we link it inside libxul.
2947. # [22:15] <Yoric> You could ask on #build.
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2949. # [22:16] <timeless> NeilAway: heh, now i'm in inception inception.
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2951. # [22:17] <yzen> Yoric: did you need anything like that for lz4 ?
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2954. # [22:18] <jchen> BenWa: hey, so taking a thread snapshot in the signal handler is a bit more involved than i thought. first i cant do allocations so i guess i need a big buffer. then i have to coordinate somehow with the watchdog thread (i see the profiler uses a semaphore for that)
2955. # [22:19] <BenWa> jchen: I think you're overcomplicating things
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2957. # [22:19] <BenWa> you need to setup a ThreadProfile object that the signaled thread will store data into
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2959. # [22:19] <BenWa> the semaphore is for breakpad unwinding which you wont be using
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2961. # [22:20] <NeilAway> grobinson: what Mook said, plus you need to set the width on the column, not on the textbox
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2963. # [22:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/faee77ddc112 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 935283, Keep document as a data property on window for now. r=bz
2964. # [22:21] <jchen> BenWa: hm but i need to sync up with the watchdog thread, because the watchdog will be using the stack.
2965. # [22:22] <BenWa> jchen: on non linux I believe the start/stop will cause a sync. On linux I forget if sending the signal blocks the threads until the signal is doen
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2967. # [22:22] <BenWa> I think you will need to use a signal safe semaphore which we use somewhere
2968. # [22:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f0b3a0277b8 - Gordon P. Hemsley - Bug 934165 - Increase clang version to 3.3 for MacPorts. r=gps
2969. # [22:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f1dc2186141 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 926431 - Make clone unsafe for fuzzing in the JS shell. r=luke
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2971. # [22:24] * NeilAway thwaps mcsmurf for using indexOf instead of test
2972. # [22:24] <mcsmurf> it works!
2973. # [22:24] <grobinson> NeilAway: Mook_as paul I was able to get the patch working using labels, based on paul's original tip of using -moz-user-select
2974. # [22:24] <grobinson> Who can review it?
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2976. # [22:25] <grobinson> bug 932116
2977. # [22:25] <grobinson> this is the same approach used for the version info in the about dialog
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2979. # [22:25] <jchen> BenWa: ok. yeah that's what i meant, signal safe semaphore.
2980. # [22:26] <gwagner> smaug: ping
2981. # [22:26] <NeilAway> grobinson: textboxes are lazier because you get the context menu for free
2982. # [22:26] <@smaug> gwagner: pong
2983. # [22:26] <BenWa> jchen: right, sorry
2984. # [22:26] <BenWa> I got confused with something else
2985. # [22:26] <gwagner> smaug: hey! I am looking at the assertion here: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30216013&tree=Pine&full=1#error3
2986. # [22:26] <grobinson> NeilAway: that's a good tip, didn't know that
2987. # [22:26] * grobinson rewrites patch again
2988. # [22:27] <gwagner> smaug: that only happens on emulator debug builds that we don't run on all trees. it came from a big merge
2989. # [22:27] <gwagner> smaug: and one bug in there is bug 932309
2990. # [22:27] <gwagner> smaug: thats the merge where it started: https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/pine/pushloghtml?startID=18&endID=19
2991. # [22:28] <jchen> BenWa: what do you think of recording the stack when popping a stack frame? so when popping a frame, we check if the thread was hanging. if so we record the stack. that seems like it would be simpler than using signals, at the cost of a few comparisons during frame pop
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2995. # [22:29] <gwagner> smaug: we don't have stacks :( but do you think this is related?
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2997. # [22:29] <grobinson> NeilAway: regarding your earlier comment - i want to avoid setting the width on anything if possible (it just sizes automatically right now)
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2999. # [22:29] <BenWa> jchen: Well the more expensive we make labels the less we can use them. So I rather keep the cost down as much as possible
3000. # [22:29] <@smaug> gwagner: just a sec, looking...
3001. # [22:29] <gwagner> smaug: sure. thx!
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3005. # [22:31] <jchen> BenWa: alright.
3006. # [22:31] <BenWa> jchen: if we really think that using signals is too hard then we can do it that way
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3010. # [22:34] <Yoric> yzen: You can look at the lz4 patch. I had to export the symbols manually and then I linked with js-ctypes to libxul.
3011. # [22:34] <NeilAway> grobinson: fair enough
3012. # [22:34] <jchen> BenWa: sounds good. i wouldn't say it's hard. just a bit messy :)
3013. # [22:34] <yzen> Yoric: thanks will do
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3015. # [22:34] <NeilAway> also, you don't need to write <label ...></label> you can just write <label .../>
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3017. # [22:34] <@smaug> gwagner: I think we need to improve the assertion message. let me write a patch
3018. # [22:34] <NeilAway> grobinson: also, you don't need to write <label ...></label> you can just write <label .../>
3019. # [22:35] <grobinson> and it'll still have the textContent property?
3020. # [22:35] <gwagner> smaug: feel free to push to pine any debug code you want
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3022. # [22:35] <gwagner> smaug: or send me the patch
3023. # [22:35] <Waldo> jcranmer|away: pong
3024. # [22:36] <@smaug> gwagner: pine?
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3028. # [22:37] <gps> Mossop: I thought we fixed that bug. you use you have the latest mozmake.exe? ask mbruebeck for the SHA-1
3029. # [22:37] <gwagner> smaug: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Pine&showall=1
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3032. # [22:37] <gwagner> smaug: thats where we fix mochitests in debug-emulators
3033. # [22:37] <Mossop> gps: I just downloaded the one that that thread pointed to
3034. # [22:37] <@smaug> ah
3035. # [22:37] <gwagner> smaug: and it works :) we are catching new regressions
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3037. # [22:38] <gps> Mossop: it /may/ require a clobber to switch
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3040. # [22:38] <Mossop> I already clobbered because I couldn't do my first build without mozmake
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3043. # [22:39] <gps> Mossop: my mozmake.exe's MD5 begins with da011
3044. # [22:39] <jcranmer|away> Waldo: I have a crazy idea
3045. # [22:39] <Mossop> gps: So does mine
3046. # [22:39] <Waldo> jcranmer|away: r+
3047. # [22:40] <gps> Mossop: then this must be another backslash issue. i thought i saw a bug on this
3048. # [22:40] <jcranmer|away> Waldo: I was thinking about adding C++11 thread/mutex/etc. helpers to MFBT
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3051. # [22:40] <jcranmer|away> Waldo: it would use C++11 if available; if not, it would fall back to NSPR
3052. # [22:40] <Waldo> falling back to NSPR is unpleasant
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3055. # [22:41] <jcranmer|away> it sounds like falling back to Windows primitives for MSVC <2012 is painful
3056. # [22:42] <gps> Mossop: $ hg log -r '6379c1cb6fa7 and ancestors(.)'
3057. # [22:42] <Waldo> well, if you want everything inline
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3059. # [22:42] <gps> Mossop: does that print anything?
3060. # [22:42] <Waldo> but given everything's OOL for Windows now, that's no regression there, seems to me
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3062. # [22:42] <Mossop> gps: Unknown revision
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3065. # [22:43] <gps> Mossop: pull and update to get the bugfix
3066. # [22:43] * jcranmer|away wonders how much longer before we can require MSVC 2013
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3068. # [22:44] <Mossop> Oh damn I forgot to update after unbundling
3069. # [22:44] <jcranmer|away> Waldo: it was a crazy idea, while I was in the middle of ripping out the last of NSPR atomics and prbit.h
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3073. # [22:47] <tbsaunde> jcranmer|away: why not just move the ones in xpcom/ that are already in dist/include/mozilla/ to mfbt/? (you'd have to deal with the deadlock detector I'm not sure exactly what's best there ...)
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3075. # [22:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c4ba9a9cf1d - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 934555 - Report filenames for errors in JS files, r=mdas
3076. # [22:48] <jcranmer|away> tbsaunde: I don't want to explicitly tie MFBT to NSPR
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3079. # [22:49] <tbsaunde> jcranmer|away: yeah, on the other hand I don't think even more mutex types is great or less dead lock detection ability
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3096. # [23:00] <mcsmurf> can I get the real push time of revisions in a hg log on the web (for example when some branch was merged into another one)?
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3098. # [23:00] <mcsmurf> or can this only be done on command line
3099. # [23:00] <mcsmurf> of course I could click on every single revision and go to pushlog
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3104. # [23:03] <froydnj> come on, c++, it's 2013, why don't you have pathname manipulations in the stdlib yet?
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3125. # [23:11] <Waldo> philor: it's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack! https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=041e1357143e :-\
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3134. # [23:12] <Waldo> RyanVM|afk: ^
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3136. # [23:13] <Waldo> KWierso: ^
3137. # [23:13] <RyanVM|afk> Waldo: we're well aware
3138. # [23:13] <RyanVM|afk> see the bug
3139. # [23:13] <Waldo> blargh
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3141. # [23:13] <RyanVM|afk> i'm actually cooking up some try bisects on it right now
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3143. # [23:13] <RyanVM|afk> already have a tentative range
3144. # [23:14] <RyanVM|afk> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?fromchange=2b77f7733578&tochange=bf1211047db4
3145. # [23:14] <Waldo> that's...pretty impressive work there
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3148. # [23:15] <RyanVM|afk> Waldo: well, we were "lucky" enough to have an inbound push which made it happen 100% on Windows debug :)
3149. # [23:15] <RyanVM|afk> and a green Try push in the bug
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3151. # [23:16] <RyanVM|afk> so yay :)
3152. # [23:16] <Waldo> ah
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3164. # [23:21] <RyanVM|afk> Waldo: only 7 merges to look at
3165. # [23:21] <RyanVM|afk> should have it down to one by the end of the night if all goes well :)
3166. # [23:21] <Waldo> RyanVM|afk: you are a gentleman and a scholar
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3177. # [23:28] <@smaug> urm, MOZ_CRASH expects a literal :/
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3181. # [23:29] <philor> a literal :/?
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3185. # [23:31] <@smaug> can't do MOZ_CRASH(cstring.get());
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3199. # [23:36] <billm> jgriffin: ping
3200. # [23:36] <jgriffin> billm: pong
3201. # [23:37] <billm> jgraham: hi. I'm trying to debug a marionette test failure. I'd like to be able to see firefox's console output when running the test. is there a way to do that?
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3203. # [23:38] <AutomatedTester> billm: have a look at the gecko.log file if you have a debug build
3204. # [23:38] <jgriffin> the error console, I take it?
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3206. # [23:38] <jgriffin> yes, what AutomatedTester said
3207. # [23:39] <billm> AutomatedTester: thanks!
3208. # [23:39] <billm> jgriffin: also thanks :-)
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3216. # [23:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea83604de5e3 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset faee77ddc112 (bug 935283) for mochitest-4 failures.
3217. # [23:44] <philor> this must be "peterv makes tests sad; tests make peterv sad" week
3218. # [23:45] <tbsaunde> 5/win26
3219. # [23:45] <Ms2ger> Heh
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3221. # [23:46] <RyanVM|afk> philor: cool, so xpcshell is still orange after kwierso
3222. # [23:46] * jgraham is going to have to fight jgriffin and jgilbert to the death for the use of the "jg" prefix on irc tab completion
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3224. # [23:46] <jgriffin> heh, yep
3225. # [23:46] <jgriffin> jg death match!
3226. # [23:46] <RyanVM|afk> philor: all in favor of disabling the test say aye!
3227. # [23:46] <philor> RyanVM|afk: I was trying not to notice that
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3231. # [23:47] <RyanVM|afk> philor: which means that those try pushes of mine are probably not overly useful
3232. # [23:48] <Ms2ger> Aye!
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3234. # [23:49] <jgilbert> jgraham, it's not as bad as the phil* prefix
3235. # [23:49] <Jesse> linkinus suggests the last person who spoke when using tab completion
3236. # [23:50] <jgraham> I think irssi works the same way
3237. # [23:50] <jgraham> Or maybe not quite...
3238. # [23:50] <@smaug> uh, sorry RyanVM|afk and peterv. Apparently I shouldn't have pushed the patch
3239. # [23:50] <Jesse> it also gives each of you a different color, which helps with reading
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3241. # [23:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/95fa48bbbc0a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 8222e9ae0a21 (bug 915233) for Windows xpcshell perma-fail on a CLOSED TREE.
3242. # [23:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73b5c79e3b65 - Eddy Bruel - Bug 927116 - Implement parser support for import declarations; r=jorendorff
3243. # [23:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97a7ac9edd15 - Eddy Bruel - Bug 927116 - Test reflect support for import declarations; r=jorendorff
3244. # [23:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4604a8a2b672 - Eddy Bruel - Bug 927116 - Implement reflect support for import declarations; r=jorendorff
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3250. # [23:57] <fabrice> KWierso: can you reland what you backed out in bug 891882 ?
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