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  1. # Session Start: Mon Nov 11 00:00:00 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
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  10. # [00:10] <jcranmer> what is this "Safari" of which you speak? :-P
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  14. # [00:11] <glosoli> for fucks sake, can anyone ban that moron from Bugzilla https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=896749
  15. # [00:11] <glosoli> I keep getting these stupid spam emails :)
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  19. # [00:15] <nrc> glosoli: people are on it - he keeps using new email addresses, but the problem is known
  20. # [00:15] <till> njn: I agree
  21. # [00:15] <glosoli> Ah okay :) Good to know
  22. # [00:15] <nrc> glosoli: #it for more info
  23. # [00:16] <nrc> (apparently)
  24. # [00:16] <glosoli> Ah sorry, I am kinda new her, so #it is the right place to report such morons ?
  25. # [00:16] <glosoli> s/her/here
  26. # [00:16] <nrc> I believe so
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  28. # [00:19] <jdm> I love when a mailing list post includes the phrase "To borrow a bit of John Stuart Mills philosophy on liberty; "
  29. # [00:19] <till> heh, yes
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  31. # [00:20] <till> I don't fully agree with his appeal, but it's well-argued
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  37. # [00:23] <@njn> that whole add-ons registration thing sounds like a disaster-in-waiting
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  39. # [00:24] <glosoli> add-ons registration, what's that ?
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  43. # [00:26] <@njn> glosoli: an idea being pursued by the add-ons team
  44. # [00:26] <@njn> glosoli: there's a huge thread on dev-platform about it
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  46. # [00:26] <@njn> glosoli: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/eUblFz6Coxs
  47. # [00:26] <glosoli> Thanks
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  68. # [01:00] <reuben> ugh
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  70. # [01:00] <reuben> the mailing lists <> google groups integration is terribad lately
  71. # [01:01] <reuben> tons of threads and comments are not being replicated
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  93. # [01:33] <NeilAway> whoa, who broke MXR's handling of + characters?
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  156. # [02:37] <mjrosenb> reuben: how does that work in general? do we need to register something with google to replicate our ML?
  157. # [02:38] <reuben> mjrosenb: idk. google groups does newsgroup replication by itself so I imagine we just replicate stuff between mailing lists and news.mozilla.org?
  158. # [02:39] <mjrosenb> reuben: huh, I did not know about news.mozilla.org.
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  161. # [02:41] <reuben> yea, old school :P
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  163. # [02:43] <mjrosenb> usenet is *hilarious* these days...
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  173. # [02:55] <ewong> NeilAway it isn't fixed?
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  202. # [03:31] <firebot> Check-in:
  203. # [03:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3fb151446ec5 - Robert O'Callahan - Backout changesets 37f9a5424227, c1578a4fc86d and a417424f9213 (for bugs 933354, 929021 and 923193 respectively) while we figure out performance regressions
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  218. # [03:55] <@njn> glandium: aligned_alloc() doesn't appear to be usable on Linux on the TBPL machines; nor posix_memalign on Android
  219. # [03:55] <@njn> glandium: but it works locally for me with both clang and GCC
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  238. # [04:19] <forivall> hey, where can I find a guide to the directory layout of the mozilla-central code repository -- like I figured out that the firefox desktop ui stuff is in /browser, but is there an overall guide to where things are?
  239. # [04:20] <forivall> specifically, I'm looking for keyboard shortcuts, but a general overview would be helpful
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  241. # [04:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/372dddb6113d - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 907463. Ignore result of very big canvas reftest. r=roc DONTBUILD
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  243. # [04:33] <mjh563> forivall: see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla_Source_Code_Directory_Structure
  244. # [04:34] <forivall> thanks! I couldn't figure out the sequence of words to throw into google
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  287. # [05:27] <glandium> njn: aligned_alloc is too new to be able to use glibc's on non-jemalloc builds
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  338. # [06:39] <@njn> that causes problems if the refcount is zero...
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  395. # [08:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf1ca47f2830 - Steve Workman - Bug 853423 - Block speculative connections for local IP addresses r=mcmanus
  396. # [08:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ccc9e2696fa5 - Steve Workman - Bug 853423 - Tests to verify speculative connection are blocked for local IP addresses r=mcmanus
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  406. # [08:20] * Topic is 'Next uplift 9 Dec || Want help, or want to help others? See #introduction || http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=developers'
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  410. # [08:23] <jgraham> fox2mike: 07:22 < AutomatedTester> ok, could you see if fox2mike is in #developers and ask him to allow more connections to mozilla irc from 183.11.223.194
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  412. # [08:24] <glob> jgraham, shyam's probably asleep, and this isn't the right channel for that. it's best to file an IT bug (in mozilla.org :: server operations) asking for the limit to be increased
  413. # [08:24] <glob> jgraham, make sure you provide the IP address as well as the duration for the increase (eg. if it's for a work week)
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  417. # [08:26] <jgraham> glob: Thanks
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  419. # [08:27] <glob> jgraham, #it would be a better channel in future for infra related stuff :)
  420. # [08:27] <jgraham> glob: 07:27 < AutomatedTester> jgraham: tell glob that I owe him a hug
  421. # [08:27] <glob> :)
  422. # [08:27] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh
  423. # [08:27] <jgraham> glob: OK. I am just acting as a dumb proxy here
  424. # [08:27] <jgraham> ;)
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  444. # [08:59] <@roc> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ok I have fixed it locally by backing out some more stuff.
  445. # [08:59] <@roc> pushing that now.
  446. # [09:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> roc: thx
  447. # [09:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a5c39f4cf22 - Robert O'Callahan - Backout changesets 238b3c81f42c and rest of a417424f9213 (bug 928798 and rest of bug 923193 respectively)
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  467. # [09:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh a german IT site has a report about Australis and now there is a forum war with some strange posts
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  469. # [09:23] <glob> Tomcat|sheriffduty, link?
  470. # [09:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> and the ones who tried out australis like it
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  472. # [09:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glob: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Firefox-bekommt-neues-Design-2043031.html
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  475. # [09:25] <glob> ta
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  478. # [09:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> but well when i worked 2003 for a Mail Provider here in Munich we changed the Design for the Community Area (like Chats and so) and suddenly we became death threats because of that design change :) so people can be strange when i comes to design changes
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  485. # [09:33] <NeilAway> ewong: was it broken before? if it was, then it's even more broken now
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  489. # [09:40] <scenor> I'm having problems building thunderbird, source is comm-central without any modifications. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3477400 That mean anything to someone?
  490. # [09:42] <scenor> Aaaah sorry
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  492. # [09:42] <scenor> My mistake, reading documentation until the end would have helped.
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  498. # [09:46] <nicklebedev> Hi guys, do someone use qqueue extension for mercurial?
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  502. # [09:50] <ewong> NeilAway wfm.. in mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central, I entered "translate page" and it goes to http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/search?string=translate%2Bpage
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  519. # [10:02] <mjh563> ewong: are you able to fix mxr?
  520. # [10:02] <mjh563> there are some other searches that seem to be broken
  521. # [10:02] <mjh563> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=AsyncConnectionHelper
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  524. # [10:03] <mjh563> ^ only returns results from a single file for some reason
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  527. # [10:03] <mjh563> (contrast it with the identifier search for the same string)
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  532. # [10:04] <Gijs> is Monday the 11th of this month a federal holiday in the US?
  533. # [10:04] <mjh563> ewong: also this search (see bug 895951):
  534. # [10:04] <mjh563> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ident?i=LoadPage&;filter=
  535. # [10:05] <mjh563> I'd expect that to show nsDocShell::LoadPage in the results
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  552. # [10:13] <mjh563> Gijs: yes, Veterans Day apparently
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  554. # [10:14] <Gijs> hrm, alright
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  557. # [10:15] <mjh563> they have Columbus Day as well?
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  559. # [10:15] <mjh563> (14th October)
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  562. # [10:18] <Gijs> Well, Columbus wasn't a veteran. ;)
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  607. # [10:57] <Optimize1> is this (https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Storage) same as DataStore ?
  608. # [10:57] <Optimize1> that are used in FxOS \
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  616. # [11:00] <Unfocused> Optimize1: no, that's https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/DataStore
  617. # [11:00] <Optimize1> ugh, so no mdn for DataStore
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  619. # [11:01] <Unfocused> dunno
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  622. # [11:01] <Unfocused> its a wiki, you could move it there yourself ;)
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  627. # [11:04] <Optimize1> Unfocused: I am sure many people had this thought ;)
  628. # [11:04] <Optimize1> (the you part)
  629. # [11:04] <Unfocused> heh
  630. # [11:05] <hsivonen> do we have non-releng UI for re-running a test group (e.g. Mochitest-1) for a try push? (when a random orange occurred)
  631. # [11:05] <NeilAway> ewong: yeah, but that's because you don't have any + signs in your search
  632. # [11:05] <NeilAway> ewong: I was searching for .get() + i + 1
  633. # [11:06] <edmorley> hsivonen: press the retigger button in TBPL (blue plus sign bottom of UI when job selected)
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  635. # [11:06] <edmorley> retrigger
  636. # [11:06] <hsivonen> edmorley: thanks. that's not obvious UI.
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  638. # [11:07] <edmorley> hsivonen: patches welcome! :-)
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  642. # [11:09] <hsivonen> do we have a way to check via #ifdef/moz.build variables if we are building Firefox or another app (e.g. TB)?
  643. # [11:09] <hsivonen> is XULRunner built from m-c or c-c?
  644. # [11:10] <hsivonen> glandium: does Debian ship Iceweasel as a XULRunner app or as a dedicated build?
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  647. # [11:12] <Standard8> hsivonen: generally for core, we try to avoid any app specific differences
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  649. # [11:13] <hsivonen> Standard8: :-( That makes it harder to make the Firefox binary smaller and be nice to TB at the same time
  650. # [11:14] <Standard8> hsivonen: well generally it would be better for extensibility if we did avoid those sorts of ifders
  651. # [11:14] <Standard8> hsivonen: and it also means that the linux distros could package xulrunner + something if they really really wanted to
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  653. # [11:15] <gfritzsche> hm, i just how the ipdl unit tests are regularly broken :(
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  656. # [11:15] <Standard8> but generally I'd argue on the side of extensibility
  657. # [11:15] <hsivonen> Standard8: I guess I will have to figure out how to *add* this stuff to c-c in order to get rid of it in Firefox builds.
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  666. # [11:25] <hsivonen> :-( do we really still build and ship the UTF-7 code in Firefox even though we don't use it?
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  668. # [11:25] <hsivonen> why isn't that code in comm-central already?
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  676. # [11:34] <smontagu> hsivonen: because moving it to comm-central Broke Stuff (even within mail agent)
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  678. # [11:34] <Ms2ger> Of course
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  680. # [11:35] <hsivonen> smontagu: moving it how? Registering the XPCOM constructors over in comm-central?
  681. # [11:35] <smontagu> the sad story is in bug 587475, dependents and dependees
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  684. # [11:37] <hsivonen> smontagu: that one tried to change UTF-7 support into not being an nsIUnicodeDecoder, right?
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  687. # [11:38] <hsivonen> smontagu: did you try keeping it as an nsIUnicodeDecoder but moving the code (including XPCOM registration) over to comm-central?
  688. # [11:38] <smontagu> right. I don't remember if I tried registering an nsIUnicodeDecoder inside mail/
  689. # [11:38] <hsivonen> smontagu: ok
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  693. # [11:41] <smontagu> hsivonen: hmm, apparently I did. I found an old patch that does that, but I couldn't tell you anything about how it went
  694. # [11:41] <smontagu> shame I don't keep a development journal
  695. # [11:42] <hsivonen> smontagu: is the patch visible in Bugzilla or somewhere where I could try to resurrect it from?
  696. # [11:43] <smontagu> I'll upload it, just a sec
  697. # [11:45] <smontagu> hsivonen: http://smontagu.org/mozilla/patches/utf7.mailnews
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  699. # [11:46] <hsivonen> smontagu: thank you
  700. # [11:46] <smontagu> hsivonen: I can only assume that *something* was wrong with it, or why did I adopt a different approach
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  705. # [11:50] <smontagu> hsivonen: I can send you some mails in UTF-7 as well if you like
  706. # [11:50] <hsivonen> smontagu: please do. Thanks.
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  712. # [11:54] <aleth> Is there a good way to use two different XUL tooltips within the same browser content area? (using one or the other depending on which DOM element is hovered over)
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  718. # [11:57] <smontagu> hsivonen: or maybe I can't :( don't tell anybody, but there seems to be a bug in forwarding utf-7 messages in current TB
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  723. # [12:03] <hsivonen> smontagu: ok. :-(
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  753. # [12:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3fdb887ba7d7 - Brad Lassey - bug 936549 - Tab sharing capture device won't stream, use FormatStrideForWidth in tab stream r=jesup
  754. # [12:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fd3869f9c83f - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 854623def9c6:a976c1645d70 (bug 917583) for Linux/Windows bc bustage
  755. # [12:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9aeefe3494c2 - Tim Taubert - Bug 936911 - Export TabState.onSwapDocShells() in TabState.jsm r=billm
  756. # [12:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/32906621f79b - Tim Taubert - Bug 934206 - Disable browser_248970_b_perwindowpb.js for leaking r=ehsan
  757. # [12:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bf669fd49d8e - Mihai Sucan - Bug 934852 - Fix for intermittent browser_scratchpad_throw_output.js | Test timed out; r=me
  758. # [12:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/101767d0f96e - Brad Lassey - bug 936549 - Tab sharing capture device won't stream, add rgb image support to media pipeline r=jesup
  759. # [12:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a976c1645d70 - Nick Fitzgerald - Bug 917583 - part 1: make function's definition site its own request in the RDP; r=past
  760. # [12:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2c85e4d1d678 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge fx-team to mozilla-central
  761. # [12:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/854623def9c6 - Nick Fitzgerald - Bug 917583 - part 2: request definitionSite before adding listeners to the view; r=vporof
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  868. # [14:06] <@smaug> Manuela: pong
  869. # [14:06] <Manuela> smaug: ping
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  881. # [14:13] <RyanVM> smaug: I'm probably going to disable test_postMessage_closed.html on Android/B2G
  882. # [14:13] <RyanVM> smaug: bug 894914 was caused by snowwhite, but it doesn't seem that a fix is forthcoming
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  895. # [14:17] <RyanVM> Manuela: can you please stop spamming the channel?
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  897. # [14:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4fbb4e40ee25 - Sebastiaan de Haan - Bug 818287 Remove data URL prefix from screenshots. r=dhunt
  898. # [14:18] <Manuela> RyanVM: sorry, I tried using /msg firebot command but didn't work
  899. # [14:18] <RyanVM> Manuela: it should
  900. # [14:18] <Manuela> RyanVM: I thought so too....
  901. # [14:19] <zzzzz> WFM, you using the right command syntax ?
  902. # [14:19] <RyanVM> WFM
  903. # [14:20] <Manuela> I used: /msg firebot
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  905. # [14:20] <Manuela> isn't this correct?
  906. # [14:21] <RyanVM> |/msg firebot !seen Manuela| WFM
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  910. # [14:22] <Manuela> RyanVM: thanks! now it also WFM
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  930. # [14:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7956694cb6cf - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 894914 - Disable test_postMessage_closed.html on Android & B2G due to intermittent failures.
  931. # [14:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f606614e2359 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 915350 - Disable testBookmark due to intermittent failures.
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  1100. # [16:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eaf3ada049b0 - Ryan VanderMeulen - No bug - Alphabetize robocop.ini. DONTBUILD
  1101. # [16:52] <till> jwatt: ping
  1102. # [16:52] <jwatt> till: pong
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  1104. # [16:53] <till> jwatt: hey, did you talk to mbx about the layers stuff he sent you an email about last week?
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  1106. # [16:53] <jwatt> till: yeah
  1107. # [16:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc1d6a0956cf - Eddy Bruel - Bug 933952 - The NO_DELTA flag in CharacterInfo is unnecessary; r=evilpies
  1108. # [16:53] <jwatt> till: well, I replied
  1109. # [16:53] <till> jwatt: ah, can you forward that to me?
  1110. # [16:53] <jwatt> till: huh, wait
  1111. # [16:54] <jwatt> actually that may have been one of the drafts I forgot to finish and send after a crash
  1112. # [16:54] <jwatt> one sec
  1113. # [16:54] <till> hehe
  1114. # [16:54] <Optimizer> RyanVM: oth orange in fx-team
  1115. # [16:54] <Optimizer> os.file bug
  1116. # [16:54] <RyanVM> Optimizer: good thing I landed those two patches separately
  1117. # [16:54] <RyanVM> :)
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  1119. # [16:54] <RyanVM> (i'm naturally paranoid about os.file patches tehse days)
  1120. # [16:54] <till> jwatt: also, are you usually in the London office? I'll most likely visit that the next two weeks
  1121. # [16:55] <Optimizer> RyanVM: which two ?
  1122. # [16:55] <RyanVM> Optimizer: see the next push
  1123. # [16:55] <Optimizer> 891110 and 897023 ?
  1124. # [16:55] <Optimizer> i see
  1125. # [16:55] <Optimizer> ok
  1126. # [16:55] <Optimizer> so abckout 897023
  1127. # [16:55] <Optimizer> and indeed good thing
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  1130. # [16:56] <mikel> howdy
  1131. # [16:56] <jwatt> till: finished and sent
  1132. # [16:57] <jwatt> till: yeah - cool
  1133. # [16:57] <till> jwatt: thanks
  1134. # [16:57] <jwatt> till: which days?
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  1138. # [16:58] <mikel> i'm interested in promoting a free and open web and mozilla seems to me the best choice of web browser for this, how can i contribute my expertise in javascript and frontend development to this cause?
  1139. # [16:58] <till> jwatt: I'll arrive late next Tuesday and stay until the 29th. I might not be in the office every day, though
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  1142. # [16:58] <mikel> i've given talks and ideally i'd continue to do that but would have way to actually contribute to Mozilla in process thereof
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  1144. # [16:59] <jwatt> till: well I'll see you some of those days :)
  1145. # [16:59] <till> jwatt: cool :)
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  1149. # [17:00] <Ms2ger> mikel, I'd suggest joining #introduction if you'd like to start contributing
  1150. # [17:00] <mstange> mikel: have a look at http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/contribute/ and http://www.joshmatthews.net/bugsahoy/?ff=1&devtools=1&b2g=1&js=1&html=1 or try asking in #introduction
  1151. # [17:00] <mikel> alrighty
  1152. # [17:01] <till> jwatt: just read the email, very interesting
  1153. # [17:01] <mikel> i'll join introduction and begin giving those a read
  1154. # [17:01] <jwatt> till: and very sucky :(
  1155. # [17:01] <till> jwatt: we should sit down and talk about this, as I think we can both give meaningful feedback and maybe ideas to each other
  1156. # [17:02] <jwatt> till: lucky you'll be in London soon :)
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  1158. # [17:02] <till> jwatt: well, it has a lot of potential for optimization ;)
  1159. # [17:02] <jwatt> indeed
  1160. # [17:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8775478f4c7c - Sebastiaan de Haan - Bug 937097 - Bump marionette_client version to 0.6.2. r=dhunt
  1161. # [17:02] <till> jwatt: yeah, and I'm looking forward to it :)
  1162. # [17:02] <till> jwatt: (being in London, I mean)
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  1164. # [17:02] <jwatt> heh
  1165. # [17:03] <jwatt> not the whiteboarding, then ;)
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  1169. # [17:06] <till> jwatt: haha. That, too. :) I meant to say that I'm not talking about the optimizations. Although those will be great, too.
  1170. # [17:06] <gwagner> mstange: ping
  1171. # [17:06] <mstange> gwagner: pong
  1172. # [17:06] <gwagner> mstange: hey! re bug 935672. whats the switch for this?
  1173. # [17:07] <mstange> gwagner: probably gfx.content.azure.backends and gfx.content.azure.accelerated
  1174. # [17:07] <mstange> gwagner: try setting it to "cg" and false
  1175. # [17:08] <mrbkap> gwagner: can you reproduce the bug?
  1176. # [17:08] <gwagner> mrbkap: yes
  1177. # [17:08] <mrbkap> cool
  1178. # [17:09] <gwagner> but only in an automated way and there is no way to run it in gdb
  1179. # [17:09] <gwagner> mstange: will try. thx
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  1181. # [17:09] <@bsmedberg> hrm
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  1184. # [17:10] <@bsmedberg> I just accidentally pushed something to try without any try: marker
  1185. # [17:10] <mrbkap> I love test suites. They give me a special feeling inside.
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  1187. # [17:10] <@bsmedberg> oddly though, I got this response remote: Looks like you used try syntax, going ahead with the push.
  1188. # [17:10] <@bsmedberg> remote: If you don't get what you expected, check http://trychooser.pub.build.mozilla.org/
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  1192. # [17:10] <@bsmedberg> and now it appears to be doing an "try everything" run
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  1194. # [17:13] <@bsmedberg> bhearsum|buildduty: ^^
  1195. # [17:13] <reuben> bsmedberg: the hook only enforces "try: " and not having "-p none"
  1196. # [17:13] <@bsmedberg> oh, wheretf did try: come from?
  1197. # [17:14] * @bsmedberg ponders what git-push-to-try is actually doing
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  1201. # [17:14] <bhearsum|buildduty> hehe
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  1204. # [17:14] <bhearsum|buildduty> i didn't even know we had a git push to try
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  1208. # [17:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2c7ad2dabeb8 - Andy Wingo - Bug 937058 - Paper over debug-mode checks of stack depth for unreachable bytecode. r=jandem
  1209. # [17:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a2a399012c3 - Federico Paolinelli - Bug 934345 - Move NotificationHelper initialization to GeckoApp since it was being initialized twice when more than one process were active. r=wesj
  1210. # [17:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f3d8d775d3c - Andy Wingo - Bug 931414 - Add test case. r=jandem
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  1215. # [17:20] <Ms2ger> ehsan, you do seem to like unified building :)
  1216. # [17:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e75f3902b7f6 - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 925308 - Dont pop profiler frames for stack frames pushed by invalidated IonScripts which didn not have profiler instrumentation. r=jandem
  1217. # [17:20] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: I do, yes!
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  1219. # [17:20] <reuben> unified building?
  1220. # [17:21] <till> clearly, that's where all the Mozilla offices worldwide get connected via really long gangways
  1221. # [17:21] <bgrins> msucan bug 912057
  1222. # [17:21] <@ehsan> reuben: combining multiple cpp files into one when building
  1223. # [17:21] <reuben> huh
  1224. # [17:21] <till> hmm, or that
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  1230. # [17:24] <Ms2ger> till, not just the offices, also all people's homes ;)
  1231. # [17:24] <till> Ms2ger: \o/
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  1235. # [17:25] <Ms2ger> till, and they're all moving walkways for the lazy among us :)
  1236. # [17:26] <till> Ms2ger: it would be totally useless without that, of course
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  1256. # [17:32] <froydnj> till: space elevators!
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  1258. # [17:32] <till> yes! \o/
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  1265. # [17:38] <@ehsan> does anybody know how to use mozregression for aurora?
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  1274. # [17:43] <RyanVM> ehsan: you can specify a branch I thought?
  1275. # [17:43] * RyanVM hasn't used it in awhile
  1276. # [17:43] <@ehsan> RyanVM: the examples include tracemonkey and mozilla-1.9.2
  1277. # [17:44] <RyanVM> lol, how relevant
  1278. # [17:44] <@ehsan> something tells me those are not entirely up to date ;)
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  1385. # [18:35] <jwatt> anyone using xcode 5?
  1386. # [18:35] <reuben> jwatt: yes
  1387. # [18:35] <jwatt> reuben: any problems I should know about before updating?
  1388. # [18:35] <reuben> jwatt: do you build B2G?
  1389. # [18:35] <jwatt> reuben: yes
  1390. # [18:35] <reuben> jwatt: don't do it :P
  1391. # [18:36] <jwatt> :/
  1392. # [18:36] <jwatt> reuben: is this just about needing the old sdk?
  1393. # [18:36] <reuben> no, a lot of things break
  1394. # [18:36] <jwatt> crap
  1395. # [18:36] <jwatt> reuben: but it works okay with m-c?
  1396. # [18:37] <reuben> jwatt: yep, m-c builds fine.
  1397. # [18:37] <reuben> if you use clang trunk see bug 928808
  1398. # [18:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07218de7fc02 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 915897 - Disable testShareLink due to intermittent failures.
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  1400. # [18:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3ea098426622 - Ed Morley - Bug 919016 - Disable test_privbrowsing_perwindowpb.html on Windows for too many intermittent failures. a=test-only
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  1402. # [18:37] <jwatt> I think I'm going to give up on trying to build b2g on OS X anyways
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  1404. # [18:38] <jwatt> so many issues
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  1406. # [18:38] <reuben> yea :(
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  1409. # [18:40] <edmorley> froydnj: open :-)
  1410. # [18:40] <froydnj> edmorley: thanks!
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  1413. # [18:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d00bb7e0929 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 608915 - part 2 - use MFBT's double-conversion code in nsString::AppendFloat; r=bz,gps
  1414. # [18:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d307cd90c34 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 608915 - part 1 - extend ToPrecision to tell use whether exponential notation was used; r=Waldo
  1415. # [18:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ad40457f58f - Nathan Froyd - Bug 936555 - make mozinfo use MozconfigLoader to locate the mozconfig; r=gps
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  1440. # [18:56] <froydnj> and this is why people hate ads: ├──233,976,486,396 (10.81%) -- window(http://view.atdmt.com/NYC/iview/467446861/direct;wi.300;hi.250/01/1072809926?click=http://adclick.g.doubleclick.net/a
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  1468. # [19:11] <@smaug> froydnj: lovely
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  1471. # [19:12] <froydnj> smaug: I am not sure if it is a good indicator of a problem or not
  1472. # [19:12] <froydnj> smaug: the event-targets count in about:memory seems stupidly high
  1473. # [19:12] <Ms2ger> glob++
  1474. # [19:13] <glob> woo!
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  1478. # [19:13] <Ms2ger> glob, good, I can't tell you :)
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  1481. # [19:14] <Ms2ger> (Always happy to get a smile on your face)
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  1490. # [19:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a8e832099d04 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 860493 - Add telemetry for history swipe animations. r=spohl,felipe
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  1499. # [19:26] <@bsmedberg> has anyone seen test failures (not crashes) in test_keycodes.xul? I have a try run on an entirely unrelated patch series that seems to be failing with 47056 ERROR TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | chrome://mochitests/content/chrome/widget/tests/test_keycodes.xul | US keyCode=65 (0x41) chars='a' [Alt], wrong number of key events - got 2, expected 3
  1500. # [19:26] <@bsmedberg> and some other subsequent failures
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  1508. # [19:28] <KWierso> bsmedberg: a quick search on bmo doesn't show any open bugs on file :(
  1509. # [19:28] <ejpbruel> KWierso: ping
  1510. # [19:29] <KWierso> ejpbruel: pong
  1511. # [19:29] <@bsmedberg> ok, I'll build on Windows and see if I can reproduce
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  1513. # [19:29] <@bsmedberg> blech
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  1518. # [19:29] <ejpbruel> KWierso: i've got a green try run for https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=03324c6c0734, but an earlier try run showed the same problems with the windows shell that i saw with import declarations
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  1520. # [19:30] <ejpbruel> KWierso: that turned out not to be caused by my patch, so eventually was relanded
  1521. # [19:30] <ejpbruel> KWierso: can I just push these patches too?
  1522. # [19:30] <KWierso> RyanVM: ^ ?
  1523. # [19:31] <RyanVM> ejpbruel: what bug is this?
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  1527. # [19:31] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: bug 930411
  1528. # [19:32] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: its the followup for bug 927116, where I had the same issues
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  1531. # [19:33] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ejpbruel: interesting
  1532. # [19:33] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: i got two try runs for this. the last one showed all green
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  1536. # [19:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ejpbruel: so the Try run on bug 927116 had the problem and the actual push to inbound didn't?
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  1538. # [19:34] * RyanVM|sheriffduty is just trying to make sure he understands the situation
  1539. # [19:35] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: for bug 927116, i had an all green try run. when i pushed to inbound, we saw breakage on windows, so the patch got backed out. then it turned out that backing out my patch didn't actually fix the problem, since other pushes broke the same thing (iirc), so it was relanded
  1540. # [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yeah, that was xpcshell issues
  1541. # [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> not jsreftest
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  1544. # [19:35] <KWierso> froydnj: should we be concerned that test_mozinfo.py has a failure on your push with a commit mentioning "make mozinfo use..." ?
  1545. # [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> haha
  1546. # [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> what could possibly go wrong
  1547. # [19:36] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: the jsreftest you see in the try run in the bug was already fixed
  1548. # [19:36] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: i did two more try runs after that, one of which had xpcshell issues, another one which didnt
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  1550. # [19:36] <froydnj> KWierso: doh
  1551. # [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ahhh, ok
  1552. # [19:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ejpbruel: so your old push to Try was on top of a busted parent you're saying
  1553. # [19:37] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: the try push in the bug? that was actually a bug in my patch :)
  1554. # [19:38] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: I didn't update the bug page because the fix turned out to be to do exactly what the review comments suggested
  1555. # [19:38] <froydnj> KWierso: kill it with fire, I guess, and I will remember to run make check next time
  1556. # [19:38] <froydnj> actually, RyanVM|sheriffduty ^
  1557. # [19:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ejpbruel: i mean the xpcshell failures - you hit them because your push was on top of the busted parent
  1558. # [19:38] <KWierso> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ^
  1559. # [19:38] <KWierso> heh
  1560. # [19:38] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: i don't know actually
  1561. # [19:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> KWierso: froydnj: on it
  1562. # [19:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ejpbruel: if your last run is green, I'd say you're fine
  1563. # [19:38] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: from what I understand, the xpcshell issues are timing related
  1564. # [19:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sounds like that's what happened
  1565. # [19:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ejpbruel: well, the Windows issue was backed out
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  1567. # [19:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> there are still intermittent OSX failures I believe
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  1569. # [19:39] * RyanVM|sheriffduty hasn't looked at those bugs recently
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  1571. # [19:39] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: ok
  1572. # [19:40] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: lets just push to inbound then and see what happens. should be fine.
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  1575. # [19:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ejpbruel: if your last Try run is green, I'd say that's a reasonable thing to do :)
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  1578. # [19:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96878ce5b70b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 9ad40457f58f (bug 936555) for checktest failures.
  1579. # [19:41] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: yeah. just thought i'd make sure since i had similar issues before.
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  1583. # [19:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ejpbruel: thanks for checking, always appreciated :)
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  1589. # [19:50] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: ping
  1590. # [19:50] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: pong
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  1592. # [19:50] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: can you point me towards the tbird code which, when you hit reply-all, actually chooses the email addresses which the new message is directed to?
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  1597. # [19:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f410dbf98d0f - Dan Gohman - Bug 936737 - IonMonkey: Re-disable beta node for unsigned comparisons. r=nbp
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  1599. # [19:56] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mailnews/compose/src/nsMsgCompose.cpp?mark=2621-2674#2621
  1600. # [19:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/54c13d627593 - Kai Engert - Bug 935959, Update Mozilla to NSS 3.15.3 (new alternative NSS branch), r=briansmith, a=lsblakk
  1601. # [19:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/73428a0ad312 - Kai Engert - Bug 935568, update to 4.10.2 RTM, r=wtc/brian, a=lsblakk
  1602. # [19:56] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: thanks
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  1605. # [19:56] <jcranmer> sorry for the delay, I tought this was one of those things where it was all handled in the UI and not the backend
  1606. # [19:56] <armenzg> Chrome breaks my words http://i.imgur.com/OzKkJHk.png while Firefox runs outside of the template http://i.imgur.com/dgCgn6a.png
  1607. # [19:57] <armenzg> how do I fix this?
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  1632. # [20:02] <froydnj> "a=" ?
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  1640. # [20:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: oh shit
  1641. # [20:07] * RyanVM|sheriffduty totally forgot to update those before pushing
  1642. # [20:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> oh well, the approvals are in teh bug :P
  1643. # [20:08] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: haha
  1644. # [20:08] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: "Backed out changesets (...) for incompetent checkin-needed pusher" ;)
  1645. # [20:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ab109e8391a - Monica Chew - Bug 895476: Remove extra dump call (r=paolo)
  1646. # [20:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lol
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  1648. # [20:09] <froydnj> open season on inbound, w000
  1649. # [20:09] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, gps would insist that data is in the hg history ;)
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  1654. # [20:12] <froydnj> ehsan: view.atdmt.com
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  1687. # [20:23] <cpeterson> ehsan: question about UNIFIED_SOURCES: How are you deciding whether a given library directory can or should be compiled as unified sources? Is there any code we should NOT compile as unified?
  1688. # [20:24] <@ehsan> cpeterson: for now I'm looking at code that doesn't change all that often
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  1690. # [20:24] <@ehsan> cpeterson: to avoid bitrot pain, etc
  1691. # [20:24] <@ehsan> cpeterson: but I don't think there are places in the code where we don't want to compile as unified, unless it's imported code which we can't modify
  1692. # [20:24] <bkelly> dholbert, ping
  1693. # [20:24] <dholbert> bkelly, hi
  1694. # [20:24] <@ehsan> cpeterson: or things like webrtc, which don't go through our build system
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  1696. # [20:25] <bkelly> dholbert, hi! got time for a quick question about reflows?
  1697. # [20:25] <tbsaunde> ehsan: so what granularity should we unify at then?
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  1699. # [20:25] <dholbert> bkelly, sure
  1700. # [20:25] <tbsaunde> presumably you don't want to unify all of gecko into one giant cpp file
  1701. # [20:25] <cpeterson> ehsan: firefox.cpp? :) I read about a game company that compiled their entire C++ game engine into one .cpp file. Their MSVC builds were very fast.
  1702. # [20:26] <bkelly> dholbert, so in the b2g profiler output on cleopatra I'm seeing entries like "layout::Flush (Flush_interruptibleLayout)"
  1703. # [20:26] <bkelly> dholbert, which then calls layout::DoReflow()
  1704. # [20:26] <tbsaunde> cpeterson: I'm pretty sure there is such a thing as too much unification
  1705. # [20:27] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: what do you mean by what granularity?
  1706. # [20:27] <bkelly> dholbert, I think those are pseudo stack frames... so may not match exact function names... are you familiar with that code?
  1707. # [20:27] <@ehsan> cpeterson: yeah, we'll get there hopefully :)
  1708. # [20:27] <@ehsan> cpeterson: I also know of one closed source project which compiles a code base similar to ours in size in around 10mins or so on windows ;)
  1709. # [20:27] <@roc> doesn't that mean when you modify any file, you have to recompile the entire world?
  1710. # [20:27] <dholbert> bkelly, those correspond to something in nsPresShell; see http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/base/nsPresShell.cpp#3775 for those names
  1711. # [20:28] <@ehsan> roc: well, we only have 16 cpp's per unified.cpp
  1712. # [20:28] <tbsaunde> ehsan: how much you want to unify into each "chunk" that's compiled as one file
  1713. # [20:28] <bkelly> dholbert, so I'm curious if DoReflow() is mainly driven by DOM size or if CSS rule complexity can also influence how long it takes
  1714. # [20:28] <cpeterson> ehsan: I think tbsaunde is asking about the balance between unification versus parallel compilation.
  1715. # [20:28] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: oh, it's 16 max
  1716. # [20:28] <@ehsan> yeah
  1717. # [20:28] <bkelly> dholbert, are the style rules processed outside of the DoReflow()?
  1718. # [20:28] <@roc> so when you say "we'll get there eventually" (to a single firefox.cpp file) you don't mean it?
  1719. # [20:28] <@ehsan> we definitely don't want a single firefox.cpp
  1720. # [20:28] <@ehsan> roc: no, I meant building most things in unified mode
  1721. # [20:29] <@ehsan> not a single .cpp file
  1722. # [20:29] <bkelly> dholbert, I want to make the reflow quicker, but I can't really shrink the DOM unfortunately... wondering if CSS optimizations would help
  1723. # [20:29] <@ehsan> that would be silly
  1724. # [20:29] <tbsaunde> ehsan: oh, that sounds like it could be fun times when you add a new cpp file
  1725. # [20:29] <dholbert> bkelly, (DoReflow corresponds to PresShell::DoReflow, presumably)
  1726. # [20:29] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: yeah it will be a bit difficult if you clash with something in another cpp file
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  1728. # [20:29] <@ehsan> which is why I've started with code that rarely gets modified
  1729. # [20:29] <firebot> Check-in:
  1730. # [20:29] <@roc> ok
  1731. # [20:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bbbeb0e593ec - Jeff Walden - Bug 934718 - Simplify some of the alpha computations in HashTable.h by converting alpha fractions to numerator/denominator ratios of integers, and convert associated
  1732. # [20:29] <dholbert> bkelly, depends on what you mean by "processed", but I think most of the style work is done before DoReflow
  1733. # [20:30] <firebot> JS_STATIC_ASSERT to static_assert. r=luke
  1734. # [20:30] <@ehsan> the thing is, we don't add/remove .cpp files all the time
  1735. # [20:30] <@roc> I guess reverting from unified mode if we hit unexpected badness is easy
  1736. # [20:30] <@ehsan> yeah, very easy
  1737. # [20:30] <dholbert> bkelly, in particular, we have to e.g. determine the display type of each frame in order to construct that frame, and we have to have a fully-constructed frame tree before we call DoReflow
  1738. # [20:30] <@ehsan> s/UNIFIED_//
  1739. # [20:30] <bkelly> dholbert, guess I mean the work like selector matching the styles to the DOM
  1740. # [20:30] <dholbert> bkelly, that all happens before reflow, yeah
  1741. # [20:31] <bkelly> dholbert, ok
  1742. # [20:31] <dholbert> not in DoReflow
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  1744. # [20:31] <dholbert> bkelly, is this for first-load?
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  1746. # [20:31] <bkelly> dholbert, no
  1747. # [20:32] <bkelly> dholbert, in order to make first load fast we try to wait to add things to the DOM till they are scrolled on screen
  1748. # [20:32] <dholbert> bkelly, ah, ok. So what change is it that's triggering this reflow?
  1749. # [20:32] <bkelly> dholbert, but now the reflows during scrolling are killing our FPS
  1750. # [20:32] <dholbert> scrolling, ok
  1751. # [20:32] * terrence is now known as terrence-brb
  1752. # [20:32] <bkelly> dholbert, I'm getting 30ms to 50ms reflows
  1753. # [20:32] <dholbert> bkelly, is this home screen or settings or what?
  1754. # [20:32] <gozala> jst: got a minute ?
  1755. # [20:32] <bkelly> dholbert, contacts
  1756. # [20:33] <bkelly> dholbert, http://people.mozilla.org/~bgirard/cleopatra/#report=c889764d4e40738eb7ccac101976d81f51d223df&search=DoReflow
  1757. # [20:33] <jst> gozala: I have a minute, but need to run in a couple
  1758. # [20:33] <gozala> ttaubert: who’s owner of tabs code this days ?
  1759. # [20:33] <jst> gozala: how can I help you?
  1760. # [20:33] <gozala> jst: so I want to lift some code from SDK to platform, I believe in the component you own
  1761. # [20:34] <jst> gozala: from what SDK?
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  1763. # [20:34] <gozala> jst: If you’ll have to run just stop me and we can continue later
  1764. # [20:34] <bkelly> dholbert, so I assume my only ways to make the reflows faster is either to reduce the DOM or try to confine the reflow to a smaller frame?
  1765. # [20:34] <gozala> jst: add-on sdk aka jetpak
  1766. # [20:34] <gozala> *jetpack
  1767. # [20:34] <jst> gozala: ah, ok
  1768. # [20:34] <gozala> jst: are you in SF by chance today ?
  1769. # [20:34] <jst> gozala: I'm not :(
  1770. # [20:35] <gozala> ok, so what we do in every add-on is
  1771. # [20:35] <dholbert> bkelly, I haven't done a ton on reflow perf, but yeah; basically, smaller DOM or smaller number-of-things-that-need-reflowing
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  1773. # [20:35] <gozala> subscribe to domwindowopened(closed) events
  1774. # [20:35] <gozala> I mean observer notifications
  1775. # [20:35] <gozala> than register DOMContentLoaded and load events
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  1777. # [20:36] <gozala> and then on each one to a TabOpen / TabClose / … events etc
  1778. # [20:36] <bkelly> dholbert, I just applied the patch from bug 914847 and it seems to be helping... need to profile to see how much
  1779. # [20:36] <gozala> to essentially gather those in one place
  1780. # [20:36] <bkelly> dholbert, anyway, thanks from saving me from CSS selector optimization hell again :-)
  1781. # [20:36] <dholbert> bkelly, sure :)
  1782. # [20:36] <gozala> which is kind of our event bus
  1783. # [20:36] <jst> ok
  1784. # [20:36] <dholbert> bkelly, that sounds very related, yeah
  1785. # [20:36] <dholbert> (that bug)
  1786. # [20:37] <gozala> jst: so I was wondering if we could just dispatch observer notifications for these events
  1787. # [20:37] <gozala> so we avoid doing same routine per add-on
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  1790. # [20:37] <gozala> and listen just to notifications add-on is using
  1791. # [20:37] <jst> gozala: sounds reasonable to me
  1792. # [20:38] <dholbert> bkelly, so, side point
  1793. # [20:38] <jst> gozala: gotta run, will be back online in ~1 1/2h
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  1796. # [20:38] <gozala> jst: ok
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  1798. # [20:38] <gozala> jst: thanx
  1799. # [20:38] <dholbert> bkelly, er, nevermind, cancel side point
  1800. # [20:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/658709366f0d - Brian Smith - Bug 733647 - Enable TLS 1.1 by default. r=wtc, a=bajaj
  1801. # [20:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/401bee952f9d - CJKu - Bug 924724 - Shutdown hang in Media Encoder when running state machine mochitest. r=roc, a=lsblakk
  1802. # [20:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/6e0ca74b4cd9 - Jason Smith - Bug 920595 - Mochitest for verifying state transitions in Media Recording API. r=roc, a=test-only
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  1809. # [20:41] <@bz> gozala, dholbert: fwiw
  1810. # [20:41] <@bz> gozala, dholbert: Google's proposal for reflow isolation might be really nice
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  1813. # [20:42] <dholbert> bz, yeah; dbaron mentioned something related at the paris work week. not sure if that's the same or not
  1814. # [20:42] <gozala> bz: Not sure I follow
  1815. # [20:42] <dholbert> gozala, I think he meant that to be for bkelly
  1816. # [20:42] <dholbert> bz, he mentioned some sort of "overflow: won't-affect-anything-outside-me" value (which might or might not end up being an "overflow" value)
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  1818. # [20:44] <@bz> dholbert: yes
  1819. # [20:44] <@bz> dholbert: basically a way to opt things into being reflow roots
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  1822. # [20:44] <dholbert> yup - that's what he was talking about. Sounds really handy, yeah
  1823. # [20:44] <dholbert> ah right, this is the thing where counters get messed up :)
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  1826. # [20:46] <@bz> mmm
  1827. # [20:46] <@bz> Yeah, interaction of with counters is sucky, you're right.
  1828. # [20:47] * @bz hadn't even though of that. ;)
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  1833. # [20:50] <@bsmedberg> bz: does window.open with a data: URI inherit the principal?
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  1835. # [20:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d69e44285df8 - Brian Hackett - Bug 930327 - Don't deoptimize the type of a coerced argument if it has other uses. r=jandem
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  1840. # [20:54] <Jesse> bsmedberg: in firefox, yes
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  1850. # [21:00] <@smaug> jimm: how much is the metrofox tested using non-touchscreen-win8 ?
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  1853. # [21:01] <jimm> smaug: probably about 50/50. most of the devs use touch screens or laptops that support touch/mouse pad.
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  1856. # [21:01] <jimm> smaug: generally though we really consider that type of setup second class.
  1857. # [21:02] <jimm> if you don't have a touch screen, you are probably using the desktop browser.
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  1859. # [21:02] <@smaug> well, win8 is so odd
  1860. # [21:02] <@smaug> you get the icon in the metro side
  1861. # [21:03] <@smaug> and you click that
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  1863. # [21:03] <@smaug> so I expect people to use metrofox
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  1865. # [21:03] <jimm> sure, it should work well with both mouse and touch
  1866. # [21:03] <jimm> smaug: if you are finding bugs, please file them
  1867. # [21:03] <@ehsan> froydnj: in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=936912#c2, are you asking for numbers in general or numbers for each one of these patches?
  1868. # [21:04] <@ehsan> froydnj: (I have the former)
  1869. # [21:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/487a2bf16ae5 - Terrence Cole - Bug 936583 - Make common chunk trailer use a common struct; r=billm
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  1872. # [21:04] <@ehsan> froydnj: e.g., bug 928231 saves around 4 seconds of compile time for me
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  1874. # [21:05] <Ms2ger> smaug, would you prefer this UI: http://i.imgur.com/sNWz1PH.jpg ?
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  1876. # [21:05] <froydnj> ehsan: I was asking for the xpcom patch, but numbers in general are nice too
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  1879. # [21:05] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: haha that is hilarious!
  1880. # [21:05] <@ehsan> froydnj: I can get the xpcom numbers for you if you really care :)
  1881. # [21:06] <@smaug> Ms2ger: uhuh
  1882. # [21:06] <@smaug> Ms2ger: I like metrofox
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  1884. # [21:06] <Ms2ger> ehsan, not all my time on imgur was wasted, then :)
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  1887. # [21:07] <@smaug> Ms2ger: (but I hate Win8 UI, just because it is such an odd mix of old and new UI styles)
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  1892. # [21:09] <jimm> smaug: I think they should give conventional desktop users the option of disabling the new ui.
  1893. # [21:09] <jimm> it just doesn't work well.
  1894. # [21:09] <jimm> on a tablet though, the new ui is really nice.
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  1896. # [21:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed845769c327 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 932066: Turn input[type="color"] style on or off based on a -moz-system-metric pseudoclass instead of an %ifdef. r=jimm
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  1902. # [21:12] <rnewman> do we already have a bug on file for the awful janky blurry screenshot in swipe-to-go-back on Mac Retina?
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  1908. # [21:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> rnewman: i know a few people have asked what the pref is to disable it :P
  1909. # [21:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> spohl ^
  1910. # [21:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> spohl|afk rather ^
  1911. # [21:16] <froydnj> ehsan: those stats would be nice, ty :)
  1912. # [21:17] <@ehsan> froydnj: ok, gimme a few mins please
  1913. # [21:17] <jimm> rnewman: I think there's a patch/fix for making those high res.
  1914. # [21:17] <reuben> rnewman: RyanVM|sheriffduty: browser.snapshots.limit=0 disables it
  1915. # [21:17] <reuben> and yes, jimm is right, we're going to make it not blurry soon
  1916. # [21:18] <jimm> bug 836430
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  1919. # [21:18] <rnewman> jimm, reuben: awesome, that saves me clicking "Submit" for this report, and also allows me to turn it off :D
  1920. # [21:19] <rnewman> reuben: are you aware of the janking during the swipe?
  1921. # [21:19] <rnewman> on my MBP I get two stutters before it starts smoothly moving
  1922. # [21:19] <reuben> rnewman: I don't think a bug has been filed for that
  1923. # [21:19] <rnewman> want me to file one?
  1924. # [21:20] <reuben> please do, thanks
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  1932. # [21:27] * @ted is more bothered by the page being blurry when you overscroll
  1933. # [21:27] <@ted> not blurry while scrolling, but as soon as you overscroll it gets blurry
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  1938. # [21:29] <rnewman> ted: yeah, same bug
  1939. # [21:29] <rnewman> they both use screenshotting
  1940. # [21:29] <@ted> gotcha
  1941. # [21:30] <rnewman> I will confess to not seeing the huge appeal of the overlay or overscroll
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  1944. # [21:30] <rnewman> at least, not if it involves screenshotting
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  1946. # [21:31] <@ted> i actually sort of like the overscroll otherwise
  1947. # [21:31] <@ted> probably for the same reasons i liked it when i was an iOS user, and miss it on Android
  1948. # [21:31] <@ted> it just sort of feels right
  1949. # [21:31] <@ted> but yeah, the blurriness kills it for me
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  1951. # [21:31] <rnewman> I wouldn't turn _off_ overscroll if it were fast
  1952. # [21:32] <reuben> I wish there was a way to disable just overscroll and keep the history swipes
  1953. # [21:32] <rnewman> hah, I want the exact opposite, reuben
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  1955. # [21:32] <reuben> rnewman: have you seen Safari's history swipes? when it works, it's quite nice
  1956. # [21:33] <kats> which platform are you guys talking about with overscroll going blurry?
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  1958. # [21:33] <reuben> kats: OS X
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  1960. # [21:33] <reuben> (so not APZC :-)
  1961. # [21:33] <rnewman> if I could make it faster I wouldn't dislike it so much, reuben
  1962. # [21:33] <kats> reuben: ah ok. i didn't know OS X had overscroll
  1963. # [21:33] <reuben> kats: it's a recent change, it uses screenshots
  1964. # [21:34] <kats> ah ok
  1965. # [21:34] <rnewman> what's interesting is that Cmd-left seems to reload the page in Safari, while swipe doesn't (or at least, it does it behind the scenes)
  1966. # [21:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3232989e79e7 - Avinash Kundaliya - Bug 897023 - [OS.File] Be smarter with functions that can fail with becauseAbsent/becauseExists. r=Yoric
  1967. # [21:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d4685e3d278e - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 3232989e79e7 (bug 897023) for mochitest-other failures.
  1968. # [21:34] <reuben> rnewman: in Safari the screenshot is shown until the page is fully loaded, so it looks seamless
  1969. # [21:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9466c23535d3 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 935526 - Remove redudant uses of 'this' in PageActionLayout (r=wesj)
  1970. # [21:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a3ea4025d340 - Girish Sharma - Bug 900415 - Should be able to open the autocompletion popup at an offset from the anchor node. r=msucan
  1971. # [21:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3e98116d9d40 - Brian Grinstead - Bug 892275 - F2 should make the selected node and its children editable as html; r=mratcliffe
  1972. # [21:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/427ec5ff2318 - cptanu - Bug 649002 - Use XPCOMUtils.defineLazyModuleGetter in places.js. r=dao
  1973. # [21:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/62c9bdb45a0a - Lucas Rocha - Bug 935543 - Remove unused members in BrowserToolbar (r=wesj)
  1974. # [21:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0de129a3ddfc - Avinash Kundaliya - Bug 891110 - Detecting attempts to pass undefined in declareFFI. r=Yoric
  1975. # [21:35] <reuben> rnewman: for more heavyweight pages, you can actually notice the delay until you can interact with it
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  2009. # [21:54] <spohl> reuben, rnewman: looks like the fun is happening when I'm afk, but if you want to know anything else about overscroll etc, just let me know. :-)
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  2013. # [21:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/851face56dbe - Dave Townsend - Bug 923348: Changing a sidebar.url from A to B then back to A does not work. r=zer0, a=lsblakk
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  2036. # [22:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nrc: like the comment \m/
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  2038. # [22:06] <nrc> :-) I like not having to do any work - thanks!
  2039. # [22:06] <rnewman> spohl: thanks!
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  2047. # [22:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d625bd9974b8 - Jed Davis - Bug 936163 - Fix profiling-specific sandbox whitelist for x86_64. r=kang
  2048. # [22:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c071c069b22 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 936710 - Add an option to propagate flags to the nested shells. r=luke
  2049. # [22:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/84e110633bc9 - Maurizio De Santis - Bug 935741 - Use HGPLAIN to fix version detection of non-English Mercurial releases. r=gps
  2050. # [22:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3741313785b - Vendelin Ruzicka - Bug 933563 - Consolidate ReportUseOfDeprecatedMethod and WarnOnceAbout. r=sicking, r=ms2ger
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  2055. # [22:19] <dholbert> Today, my builds are failing with https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3481733 (Found target arm_ex_to_module.o in arm_ex_to_module.o.pp and host_arm_ex_to_module.o.pp), when compiling breakpad. Same for anyone else?
  2056. # [22:19] * pmoore is now known as pmoore|away
  2057. # [22:19] <dholbert> (I'm on Ubuntu 13.10, gcc 4.8, debug build, trivial mozconfig)
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  2059. # [22:21] <KWierso> RyanVM|sheriffduty: so, did bug 919016 just migrate to a different test when test_privbrowsing_perwindowpb.html was disabled?
  2060. # [22:21] <dholbert> It looks like I can work around it with --disable-crashreporter, but I'm wondering if anyone else has any more info
  2061. # [22:22] * dholbert will probably file bug
  2062. # [22:22] <mcsmurf> dholbert: clobber build right?
  2063. # [22:22] <dholbert> mcsmurf, correct
  2064. # [22:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> KWierso: could very well be
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  2066. # [22:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> KWierso: where are you seeing problems, though?
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  2068. # [22:23] <KWierso> fx-team, win8pgo m-oth orange
  2069. # [22:23] <KWierso> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ^
  2070. # [22:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> KWierso: it was disabled on trunk a week ago
  2071. # [22:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i just disabled the release branches today
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  2081. # [22:28] <Ms2ger> jhopkins, fwiw, asking for objections in a thread that's been dead for almost a month might not be the best way to get them :)
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  2084. # [22:30] <jhopkins> Ms2ger: are you referring to my reply-all + change the subject line approach vs. a fresh message?
  2085. # [22:30] <Ms2ger> jhford, yes
  2086. # [22:30] <jhford> Ms2ger, no
  2087. # [22:30] <jhford> :P
  2088. # [22:30] <Ms2ger> jhford, eh, not you :)
  2089. # [22:30] <RyanVM> trixy Ms2ger
  2090. # [22:30] <Ms2ger> jhopkins, yes
  2091. # [22:30] <jhopkins> Ms2ger: ok. i didn't realize that would cause a problem
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  2094. # [22:31] <Ms2ger> jhopkins, not so much a problem as making it easier to miss
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  2097. # [22:33] <heftig> is just one dev working on the gtk3 port?
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  2118. # [22:49] <@njn> can I append extra info to the titles of "Intermittent TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL" bugs?
  2119. # [22:49] <@njn> I don't want to break the TBPL orange matching
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  2129. # [22:54] <edmorley> njn: yes that's fine
  2130. # [22:54] <@njn> edmorley: thx
  2131. # [22:56] <@njn> edmorley: bug 937078 is the one, I added the "Due to..." bit to the titel
  2132. # [22:56] <edmorley> njn: bzapi is either queried for the test name or else the whole log failure line (slight simplification, but close enough). The former case is very hard to break, and for the latter, as long as you either append or prepend the additional info, vs in the middle of the failure string, it will work fine
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  2134. # [22:56] <@njn> *title
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  2137. # [22:57] <edmorley> njn: yeah that one is fine (the search term will be "test_aboutmemory5.xul")
  2138. # [22:57] <@njn> edmorley: thanks
  2139. # [22:57] <@ehsan> njn: ping
  2140. # [22:57] <@njn> ehsan: hello
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  2143. # [22:57] <@ehsan> hey
  2144. # [22:57] <edmorley> njn: just trimmed the summary slightly (but unrelated to your change)
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  2146. # [22:57] <@ehsan> njn: have you heard complaints about firefox consuming gigs of memory all in heap-unclassified?
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  2149. # [22:58] <@njn> ehsan: I've heard one: bug 936784
  2150. # [22:58] <@njn> ehsan: apparently was really bad in FF25, but not nearly as bad in FF26
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  2153. # [22:59] <@ehsan> njn: I've noticed this in the past few weeks
  2154. # [22:59] <@njn> ehsan: do you use the devtools?
  2155. # [22:59] <@ehsan> I'm on mac so I run a 64 bit build
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  2157. # [22:59] <@ehsan> hmm not very much
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  2159. # [22:59] <@ehsan> I sometimes open the console
  2160. # [23:00] <@njn> ehsan: if you can run with DMD enabled that would be very helpful
  2161. # [23:00] <@ehsan> and that's pretty much it
  2162. # [23:00] <@ehsan> njn: that's what I'm doing now...
  2163. # [23:00] <@ehsan> problem is
  2164. # [23:00] <@ehsan> 1. My DMD builds sometimes crash
  2165. # [23:00] * joduinn is now known as joduinn-mtg
  2166. # [23:00] <@ehsan> 2. I cannot reliably reproduce this
  2167. # [23:00] <@njn> bugger
  2168. # [23:00] <@ehsan> :(
  2169. # [23:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d8f5ac28c5a - Malini Das - Bug 936019 - fix intermittent test_findelement.py, r=jgriffin
  2170. # [23:00] <@ehsan> I wanted to check to see if you already know of this bug
  2171. # [23:00] <@ehsan> but I'll hunt more
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  2175. # [23:02] <froydnj> njn: did you mean to r+ bug 937227?
  2176. # [23:02] * jduell_ is now known as jduell
  2177. # [23:02] <@njn> froydnj: whoops; fixed
  2178. # [23:02] <froydnj> njn: thanks
  2179. # [23:02] <@njn> froydnj: thanks for fixing it
  2180. # [23:03] <froydnj> njn: I too have been seeing high heap-unclassified (25-30%)...haven't tried a dmd build yet
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  2183. # [23:03] <@njn> yay
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  2195. # [23:09] <heftig> froydnj: 30% is considered high already?
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  2208. # [23:15] <@bsmedberg> goddammit. The plugin infobar breaks chrome mochitests test_keycode.xul because it runs in a browser window and it's not dismissed
  2209. # [23:15] * @bsmedberg wonders why that would break that test
  2210. # [23:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d769520a0be - Olli Pettay - Bug 937303 - Make CC logger to pass information about compartments, r=mccr8
  2211. # [23:15] <seth> gps: following this thread on dev-planning i saw mention of the possibility of pulling all of our repos into a single local clone. how exactly do you do that? is it just the equivalent of adding additional remotes in git?
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  2214. # [23:16] <@bsmedberg> seth: yeah. If you've installed the extension, it's just `hg pull beta; hg up beta/default`
  2215. # [23:17] <nthomas> hey, that gigs of heap-unclassified issues sounds like me too. But it's also intermittent here
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  2217. # [23:17] <seth> bsmedberg: wow, nice! that sounds incredibly easier than what i'm doing now
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  2220. # [23:17] <@njn> nthomas: what platform are you running on ?
  2221. # [23:17] <nthomas> mac, nightly
  2222. # [23:18] <@njn> nthomas: if you can try DMD builds, that would be very helpful
  2223. # [23:18] <nthomas> dmd ?
  2224. # [23:18] <@njn> nthomas: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrink/DMD has instructions
  2225. # [23:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/555e5759fe5f - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 935470 - Update end position after lazily parsing a function. (r=jorendorff)
  2226. # [23:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82495f0c5da2 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 934799 - Part 1: Lazify delazifying lazy scripts in debug mode. (r=jimb)
  2227. # [23:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb230c191a88 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 936143 - Part 1: Add Debugger.Script.lineCount test where the script's source notes end in newline notes. (r=jimb)
  2228. # [23:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e13e98eab890 - Jim Blandy - Bug 936143 - Part 2: Simplify and fix js_GetScriptLineExtent. (r=shu)
  2229. # [23:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce4011f33422 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 933882 - Invalidate JIT code instead of doing full GC on debug mode toggle. (r=bhackett)
  2230. # [23:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/77be849d81e7 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 935228 - Toggle debug traps only in debug mode. (r=jandem)
  2231. # [23:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae6f2151610f - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 934799 - Part 2: Disable lazy parsing for JSD. (r=sfink)
  2232. # [23:20] <nthomas> hmm, I wonder if pushing to try packages the right stuff up
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  2237. # [23:23] <froydnj> heftig: yeah, it should be down around 10-15%
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  2241. # [23:25] <heftig> froydnj: it's typically about 30-40% here :( is that because of linux?
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  2245. # [23:27] <gps> seth: it's exactly like additional git remotes. but if you install my extension from https://hg.mozilla.org/users/gszorc_mozilla.com/hgext-gecko-dev it makes it a *lot* easier
  2246. # [23:27] <gps> seth: start reading at https://hg.mozilla.org/users/gszorc_mozilla.com/hgext-gecko-dev/file/03156d8451c9/__init__.py#l4
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  2248. # [23:28] <@njn> heftig: it should be better than that on Linux, because DMD works best on Linux :/
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  2250. # [23:29] <heftig> njn: i don't think dmd is enabled by default?
  2251. # [23:29] <@njn> heftig: correct
  2252. # [23:29] <@njn> heftig: you need a special build, https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrink/DMD has instructions
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  2254. # [23:30] <whimboo> smaug: hello!
  2255. # [23:30] <@smaug> whimboo: hello
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  2257. # [23:30] <froydnj> hm, I wonder why make just spat out a bunch of information about test files all over my terminal
  2258. # [23:30] <heftig> njn: what's the performance impact of running dmd?
  2259. # [23:30] <whimboo> smaug: i have a page which takes >100% cpu load even nothing seems to be running. it might be related to the high cpu load on shutdown I have seen recently again
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  2261. # [23:31] <@njn> heftig: pretty minimal; I can't quantify it, but you hopefully won't notice
  2262. # [23:31] <whimboo> smaug: would you have a minute for a look? not sure how to do that
  2263. # [23:31] <@smaug> whimboo: is the browser still responsive?
  2264. # [23:32] <whimboo> smaug: yes it is
  2265. # [23:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a00f18602394 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 937227 - zero-initialize fields in nsWindowSizes; r=njn
  2266. # [23:32] <@smaug> whimboo: and you can load new pages ?
  2267. # [23:32] <@smaug> in other tabs
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  2275. # [23:38] <heftig> njn: so I suppose this would do? http://sprunge.us/TMag
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  2277. # [23:39] <@njn> heftig: looks reasonable; I usually add |ac_add_options --enable-optimize='-O1'| so that stacks don't get over-optimized
  2278. # [23:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb7afdb613a7 - Jacob Acord - Bug 934673 - Fix nsRandomGenerator::GenerateRandomBytes can leak r=keeler
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  2280. # [23:40] <seth> gps: nice, thanks!
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  2288. # [23:44] <heftig> njn: i read that this just builds the dmd library, but it's not loaded by default?
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  2290. # [23:45] <@njn> heftig: correct. The docs explains it all. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrink/DMD#Desktop has the details on running
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  2292. # [23:46] <@njn> heftig: if you do run with DMD, I'd recommend practising the analyze+post-process steps immediately. That way, they're familiar when you come to the point where heap-unclassified has risen
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  2295. # [23:48] <KWierso|sheriffduty> smaug: bustage on inbound
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  2303. # [23:52] <@smaug> KWierso|sheriffduty: fun.
  2304. # [23:52] <@smaug> and sorry
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  2306. # [23:53] <@smaug> uh
  2307. # [23:53] <@smaug> sorry indeed
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  2322. # [23:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/260fbed9b3ef - Mike Hommey - Bug 935857 - Replace MOZ_RTSP with proper NECKO_PROTOCOL handling. r=gps,r=vchang
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