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116. # [00:20] <NeilAway> ckitching: this is Windows, so no
117. # [00:21] <ckitching> NeilAway: Oh, I thought there was a ccache for Windows. That's annoying!
118. # [00:21] <ckitching> My builds got many times faster once I enabled it.
119. # [00:22] <NeilAway> Jesse: did I read that right? "Bad Luck Glazou"?
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121. # [00:23] <Jesse> NeilAway: the posts i liked were the two referencing tank man
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189. # [01:13] <yeukhon> are we updating mdn? getting prompt for ldap
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196. # [01:21] <zzzzz> yeukhon: someone else is asking same thing in #it
197. # [01:22] <yeukhon> zzzzz: thanks.
198. # [01:22] <yeukhon> got it the topic probably answered my question
199. # [01:22] <yeukhon> The topic for irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#it is: Scheduled downtime of many SCL3 based services - Please refer to https://status.mozilla.org/detail/22/ || on call sysadmin: ericz
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204. # [01:25] <NeilAway> bah, fatal assertions suck
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229. # [02:01] <jesup> NeilAway: triggering assertions sucks... ;-)
230. # [02:01] <jesup> As does not fixing assertions
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244. # [02:24] <+benjamin> I filed a bug and somehow it was deleted?
245. # [02:25] <+benjamin> was the bz database rolled back?
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249. # [02:30] <philor> benjamin: #bmo is more likely to know, or #it
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320. # [02:45] <jesup> They failed over bmo before the maintenance outage; it's possible there were things lost (though I didn't see any). Try shift-reload. Do you ahve the #?
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322. # [02:45] <jesup> benjamin: ^
323. # [02:47] <+benjamin> jesup: well, I had bug 939467
324. # [02:47] <+benjamin> (it's now something else)
325. # [02:47] <+benjamin> bug I have the bugmail for mine
326. # [02:47] <jesup> Mine shows filed by Benjamin Peterson for that bug
327. # [02:47] <jesup> zone iterators
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330. # [02:48] <+benjamin> this is some weird stuff
331. # [02:48] <Jesse_> i see a bug filed by Marc Bejarano
332. # [02:48] <+benjamin> "Bug 939467 - https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox.html needs info for 25.0.1 release"
333. # [02:48] <jesup> Oooooh
334. # [02:48] <jesup> Not good
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337. # [02:48] <jesup> what does nslookup bugzilla.mozilla.org get?
338. # [02:49] <jesup> Name: bugzilla-zlb.vips.scl3.mozilla.com Address: 63.245.215.80
339. # [02:49] <jesup> benjamin: need the text from your bug? I have it up
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341. # [02:49] <+benjamin> bugzilla.mozilla.org. 60 IN CNAME bugzilla.dynect.mozilla.net.
342. # [02:49] <+benjamin> bugzilla.dynect.mozilla.net. 60 IN CNAME bugzilla-zlb.vips.scl3.mozilla.com.
343. # [02:49] <+benjamin> bugzilla-zlb.vips.scl3.mozilla.com. 60 IN A 63.245.215.80
344. # [02:49] <+benjamin> no, I was just wondering where it went
345. # [02:50] <jesup> This is Not Good
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355. # [03:00] <philor> heh, fun, I saw benjamin's, shift+reloaded and saw marc's
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357. # [03:00] <philor> we need less of that boring predictablility in our bug db
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360. # [03:02] <ericz> What's going on with bugzilla?
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364. # [03:04] <philor> my best guess would be that the phx db and the scl db have different bugs for 939467
365. # [03:04] <+benjamin> advanced distributed computing
366. # [03:04] <Jesse_> #it is starting to respond
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394. # [03:37] <bz> tree is open?
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398. # [03:40] <bz> I guess I should really do a try run...
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400. # [03:40] <philor> why bother?
401. # [03:41] <philor> only a 50% chance the bugzilla you hit to see whether your failures are known will be the working one
402. # [03:41] <philor> plus you'll want to land before I close because there's only a 50% chance the bugzilla I hit...
403. # [03:41] <bz> philor: heh
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405. # [03:42] <bz> Looks like no try run of the latest version of one of these patches yet
406. # [03:42] * bz pushes to try
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410. # [03:43] <philor> but all joking aside, don't do anything in bugzilla, there's no reason to believe it'll actually stay there
411. # [03:45] <ckitching> Once again, would someone mind cancelling https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=61767cc4d4dc for me?
412. # [03:46] <abr> ckitching: done
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414. # [03:47] <philor> are we handing out L1 access without LDAP access again?
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416. # [03:47] <bz> philor: :(
417. # [03:47] <bz> philor: "bug filed?"
418. # [03:48] <bz> philor: and do the IT people know?
419. # [03:48] <philor> ckitching: tell me stories about your inability to cancel things yourself
420. # [03:48] * bz has seen no mail about the issue....
421. # [03:48] <bz> That's a good point
422. # [03:48] <bz> why can't you cancel yourself?
423. # [03:49] <ckitching> philor: Essentially.
424. # [03:49] <philor> we certainly have at times not told people about their ldap account despite it existing
425. # [03:49] <bz> Sure
426. # [03:49] <bz> but if so, that needs fixing
427. # [03:49] <ckitching> philor: Well, does there exist one for chriskitching@linux.com?
428. # [03:49] <bz> so I'd like to understand whether that's the issue here
429. # [03:49] <ckitching> I'm a former intern who transitioned into annoying person who won't go away.
430. # [03:49] <bz> ckitching: what LDAP account are you using to push?
431. # [03:50] <ckitching> So my @mozilla.com LDAP account vanished, but my L1 access was transferred.
432. # [03:50] <bz> right
433. # [03:50] <bz> but no one told you the password to this other LDAP account?
434. # [03:50] <ckitching> Nope.
435. # [03:50] <ckitching> I'l authenticating with tryserver using publickey authentication.
436. # [03:50] <bz> ckitching: Pop into #it and have a chat with them?
437. # [03:50] <ckitching> As chriskitching@linux.com
438. # [03:50] <bz> ckitching: this is silly
439. # [03:51] <philor> reopen the transfer bug, say "hey, I didn't get the password for the new LDAP account"
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441. # [03:51] <ckitching> It is quite silly. Then again, I was half expecting my L1 access to mystereously vanish at some point. :P
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443. # [03:51] <ckitching> That said, doesn't LDAP give me more access than just L1 commit access?
444. # [03:51] <bz> If _that_ happened it wouldn't be silly.
445. # [03:51] <ckitching> Access to things a non-employee ostensibly shouldn't have?
446. # [03:51] <bz> That would be totally uncool.
447. # [03:51] <bz> ckitching: lots of employees have LDAP accounts
448. # [03:51] <ckitching> It would. Then I'd have to actually do real work. :P
449. # [03:51] <philor> no, your LDAP account gives you access to the things you should have access to
450. # [03:51] <bz> ckitching: Turns out you can set flags on them
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452. # [03:52] <ckitching> Ah. Fair enough.
453. # [03:52] <bz> ckitching: to indicate what they have access to
454. # [03:52] <ckitching> This isn't a surprise. :P
455. # [03:52] <bz> ckitching: so e.g. you won't have access to corp-internal stuff
456. # [03:52] <philor> so your employee one gave you more, but your new one needs to give you access to selfserve, you're crippled without that
457. # [03:52] <ckitching> Makes sense.
458. # [03:52] <ckitching> Right, yes, I'll go reopen the bug and whinge at someone.
459. # [03:52] <bz> philor: for some values of crippled.... canceling stuff is not that bad, but inability to retrigger....
460. # [03:52] <ckitching> Quite.
461. # [03:53] <bz> philor: and for you those are more important than for most, I bet. ;)
462. # [03:53] <ckitching> And I have a tendency for submitting the wrong thing a lot.
463. # [03:53] <ckitching> And breaking things a lot. :P
464. # [03:53] <ckitching> So both powers are necessary. :P
465. # [03:53] <bz> Yeah
466. # [03:53] <bz> Bug people until they fix this, please
467. # [03:53] * dhylands|dr is now known as dhylands
468. # [03:53] <ckitching> I think I did once encounter a contributor with the same problem who solved the "Can't retrigger" problem by submitting repeatedly. :P
469. # [03:53] <philor> yeah, that's why whenever it comes up I get worried
470. # [03:54] <philor> because I've previously seen the same thing, "I need three test runs, so I cause three builds to be built"
471. # [03:56] * bz gives tree reprieve
472. # [03:56] <ckitching> Whelp, pestering complete.
473. # [03:57] <ckitching> We live in hope.
474. # [03:57] <ckitching> In the meantime, I'll double check my qser :P
475. # [03:57] <bz> philor: on a serious note, where is the bugzilla bustage you mention being tracked?
476. # [03:57] <bz> philor: Ah, looks like #it
477. # [03:57] <philor> bz: by the previous it oncall having said that sheeri should look at it
478. # [03:58] <bz> mmm
479. # [03:58] <philor> I'd file a bug, but it's only a 50% chance that you could see it, or that she could, or that I'd get bugmail about it
480. # [03:58] <bz> well
481. # [03:58] <bz> can we get people to just take bmo offline for now?
482. # [03:58] <bz> Or at least edits to bmo?
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496. # [04:19] * +benjamin officially gives up hope of landing his patches today
497. # [04:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1fb0f60a3d6b - Dan Gohman - Bug 937944 - SpiderMonkey: Use d15 as the float scratch register on ARM, to avoid conflicts with argument registers. r=mjrosenb
498. # [04:19] <philor> can't find them now?
499. # [04:20] <philor> attached to the stolen bug?
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505. # [04:26] <philor> awesome excuse for not having done a review, "I reviewed that, in detail, it must be in the phx db", too bad the window was too narrow to support very many claims of that
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507. # [04:26] <bz> philor: mmm
508. # [04:27] <bz> philor: I tend to do big reviews in an emacs buffer
509. # [04:27] <bz> philor: then copy/paste into bugzilla, submit, and then close the emacs buffer
510. # [04:27] <philor> I tend to swear
511. # [04:27] <bz> Also, 2h is a while in review-land. ;)
512. # [04:27] * bz imagines philor with parrot on shoulder.
513. # [04:27] <philor> a blushing parrot
514. # [04:28] <bz> Parrots generally can't blush
515. # [04:28] <bz> no exposed skin with lots of blood vessels
516. # [04:32] <ckitching> Why does the build system require that the source file listings are in alphabetical order?
517. # [04:33] <ckitching> Aren't computers generally fairly good at sorting shit? :P
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519. # [04:33] <bz> ckitching: Because we're all anal retentive
520. # [04:33] <bz> ckitching: And this makes it easier for people to find a source file in the list...
521. # [04:33] <bz> or something
522. # [04:33] <ckitching> Ah, that makes some more sense.
523. # [04:33] <ckitching> And you're clearly not. You had unit tests slicing JSON strings at fixed indices.
524. # [04:33] <bz> mmm
525. # [04:34] <ckitching> This is not the mark of people who need to keep their files in alphabetical order and their spoons sorted by size. :P
526. # [04:34] <bz> We're all anal retentive about different things?
527. # [04:34] <bz> Be glad our filenames are all ASCII!
528. # [04:34] * bz keeps his spoons semi-sorted by size
529. # [04:34] <bz> serving, soup, dessert
530. # [04:34] <bz> doesn't everyone?
531. # [04:34] <ckitching> bz: Naturally.
532. # [04:35] <bz> I mean, ending up with a serving spoon when you want some ice cream
533. # [04:35] <ckitching> Also, since the trees have been closed for so long, I suspect that my stack of 17 patches is about to bitrot obscenely hard. :P
534. # [04:35] <bz> or a dessert spoon when you want to ladle out mashed potatoes...
535. # [04:35] <ckitching> Quite.
536. # [04:35] <bz> ckitching: Depends which code they're in
537. # [04:36] <ckitching> I think a better question is which code *arent* they in?
538. # [04:36] <bz> ckitching: I mean, you could probably have a 17-patch stack for mork around for years without bitrot
539. # [04:36] <bz> ckitching: heh
540. # [04:36] <bz> ckitching: What bug is this?
541. # [04:36] * bz notes that he just suggested the very presence of mork won't cause bitrot; this claim is unproven.
542. # [04:37] <ckitching> It's the new code generator from Bug 913985, then the robocop changes from Bug 916507, and finally the Proguard stuff from Bug 709230.
543. # [04:37] <ckitching> And it's actually working, which is *awesome*.
544. # [04:37] <ckitching> The irritating thing is 913985 was supposed to land about 2 months ago but there was a red herring test failure that got it backed out and then it stalled for aaages.
545. # [04:38] <ckitching> Ah well. Seems to be alive again.
546. # [04:38] <bz> fun
547. # [04:38] <ckitching> Indeed.
548. # [04:38] <bz> well, I doubt you're touching any of the code I'm touching
549. # [04:38] <ckitching> Probably not.
550. # [04:38] <ckitching> Well, we live in hope.
551. # [04:38] <bz> So I won't bitrot you, and vice versa.
552. # [04:39] <bz> That's already good news!
553. # [04:40] <ckitching> True.
554. # [04:41] <ckitching> The problem is the code generator tends to create endless rebasing cycles.
555. # [04:41] <ckitching> It's rebased, pushed to try, and goes green. In the meantime, someone bitrotted it in a way that needs more code to be generated.
556. # [04:41] <ckitching> So round we go again. :P
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565. # [04:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4c82e9838d5 - Benjamin Peterson - Bug 939464 - Rewrite code to fix GCC unitialized variable compliants. r=billm
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571. # [04:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6887b71d36ee - Matt Woodrow - Bug 934860 - Part 6: Add a pref to disable single rect painting and disable it for now for causing TART regressions. r=jrmuziel
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579. # [05:11] <+benjamin> mattwoodrow: red on inbound
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584. # [05:19] <philor> that didn't take very long
585. # [05:19] <philor> benjamin: orange on inbound
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587. # [05:20] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&showall=1&rev=b4c82e9838d5 since it's only on the js shell builds so far
588. # [05:22] <mattwoodrow> damnit
589. # [05:22] <mattwoodrow> rebase fail :(
590. # [05:22] <mattwoodrow> philor: Ok to push a followup?
591. # [05:23] <philor> mattwoodrow: why not?
592. # [05:23] * philor switches to queuing up benjamin's backout
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595. # [05:25] * philor feels quite mature based on his first reaction to "Assertion failure: it"
596. # [05:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab7264010d2a - Matt Woodrow - Bug 934860 - Followup to fix build on a CLOSED TREE
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599. # [05:30] <philor> benjamin: are you going to have a followup, or should I push this backout?
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603. # [05:35] <philor> methinks someone went to get a beer just a little too soon
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605. # [05:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b1346a125c4 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out b4c82e9838d5 (bug 939464) for make check assertions
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607. # [05:39] * philor feels lucky
608. # [05:40] <+benjamin> irk, sorry
609. # [05:41] <+benjamin> ha, dumb mistake
610. # [05:41] <philor> yep, you forgot to shout NOT IT
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612. # [05:42] * +benjamin blames the bug database
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616. # [05:45] * philor suddenly realizes that the 250th debug asan build on m-c isn't actually running
617. # [05:45] <philor> though sure I'd retriggered that again
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619. # [05:46] <philor> and I'm looking forward to finding out whether it's possible to explain to me how we could intermittently create a build which consistently fails TypedObject/jit-prefix.js, both times we run jit-tests
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621. # [05:47] <philor> or rather, both times we run both of the --ion-ion flavors
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625. # [05:54] <philor> "checking whether the C compiler works... no"
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627. # [05:54] <philor> well played, b2g build, well played
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629. # [05:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4421e9c1fe72 - Benjamin Peterson - No bug - Make zone iterator constructors explicit. r=billm
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632. # [05:57] <@bz> grrr
633. # [05:58] <@bz> in the new mochitest world, how do I run only some of the imptests in a directory sanely? :(
634. # [05:59] * @bz wishes people would stop breaking stuff like that. :(
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654. # [06:16] <firebot> since the semantics of it will change. r=sicking
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674. # [06:30] <philor> mmmkay
675. # [06:31] <philor> who touched libffi?
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677. # [06:32] <@bz> bad people?
678. # [06:32] * @bz snuck in under the wire
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680. # [06:33] <philor> sure would like sunfish for it, shame about all his green
681. # [06:33] <@bz> Less flippantly, no one since the last greens? :(
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683. # [06:34] <philor> yeah, but libffi like to think that it's been touched when someone else gets touched
684. # [06:34] <@bz> mmm
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686. # [06:35] <@bz> changeset: 154950:a434e4fc3482
687. # [06:35] <@bz> user: Landry Breuil <landry@openbsd.org>
688. # [06:35] <@bz> date: Wed Nov 13 22:06:05 2013 +0100
689. # [06:35] <@bz> summary: Bug 928390: Partially backport libffi upstream 049d8386ff for OpenBSD/mips/hppa. r=glandium
690. # [06:35] <@bz> Is the last checkin to that dir
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694. # [06:36] <@bz> erm
695. # [06:37] <@bz> on your backout of Benjamin, Android 4.2 x86 Opt was green
696. # [06:37] <philor> last clobber of inbound was the 12th, thanks to our new policy of preventing my blood pressure from ever dropping
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698. # [06:37] <@bz> but its red on the No bug checkin?
699. # [06:37] <@bz> So we think that basically any clobber build is busted in libffi?
700. # [06:37] <@bz> on those platforms?
701. # [06:38] <@bz> We could try retriggering some of the green bits as clobbers....
702. # [06:38] <philor> yeah, I clobbered before I even started thinking about it
703. # [06:38] <@bz> Clobbered the reds, or the greens, or both?
704. # [06:39] <philor> but I think it's more likely that something from Wednesday needed a clobber
705. # [06:39] <@bz> fun
706. # [06:39] <philor> reds so far, but greens would be fun too
707. # [06:39] * @bz thinks it might be interesting to clobber some of those recent greens
708. # [06:39] <@bz> to see whether it's the clobber or the dep that's broken
709. # [06:40] <philor> not benjamin's green android, though, I don't want to see more of those tests
710. # [06:40] <@bz> heh
711. # [06:40] <@bz> Could retrigger sunfish's b2g
712. # [06:40] <@bz> But are those tests any better than Android?
713. # [06:41] <philor> there are green builds which claim to be "purged clobber"
714. # [06:43] <philor> and none of the reds claim any sort of clobber, so I like "something between sunfish and last Wednesday needed a clobber, and screw the rest of the sheriffs and their 'oh, let's stop clobbering and let thing burn all the time,' I'm not touching /CLOBBER, let them burn"
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716. # [06:49] <@bz> quick, check in a webidl change? ;)
717. # [06:49] * @bz plans to finish reviewing that patch on Monday
718. # [06:50] <@bz> My money is on that Nov 13 checkin
719. # [06:50] <@bz> Because the last change to libffi _before_ that was a merge on 11/1
720. # [06:51] <@bz> Then again I have no idea why that change would need a clobber
721. # [06:51] <@bz> on the gripping hand, I should not assume sanity from the libffi build system
722. # [06:52] <philor> no, my assumption, total insanity on its part, has the weight of history behind it
723. # [06:56] * smontagu wonders if he can mark bug 939311 as FIXED rather than WONTFIX, because he has "considered" it, and decided to do nothing
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727. # [06:58] <glandium> bz: bug 939416
728. # [06:58] <glandium> ms2ger was supposed to land a CLOBBER change
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730. # [06:59] <@bz> mmm
731. # [06:59] <@bz> well, apparently no?
732. # [06:59] <@bz> as in, never happened
733. # [07:00] <@bz> we should do that now, I guess
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736. # [07:00] <glandium> yep
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739. # [07:00] <glandium> bz: want to do it, or shall i?
740. # [07:01] <@bz> Please go for it
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743. # [07:01] <glandium> ok
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748. # [07:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c9e60907e2c - Mike Hommey - Bug 928390 requires a clobber because of bug 939416. r=me
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756. # [07:22] <philor> I can't quite remember, why is important that every push to every tree that we do be tested against jQuery and Scriptaculous and MochiKit as they were five years ago?
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758. # [07:31] <philor> heh, useful once, because in 2010 they were the only tests we had that used .match(), that being when we discovered that we hadn't been looking at the results of running them for two years
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761. # [07:34] <philor> hmm, wee little problem with printing vsize after each mochitest: we don't print it after we hang/timeout/crash ourselves, so we only know what successful tests did to it
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768. # [07:46] <@bz_sleep> philor: fwiw, the jQuery test recently found a bug in the DOM spec...
769. # [07:46] <@bz_sleep> philor: in that they tried to break that jQuery version
770. # [07:47] * heycam|away is now known as heycam
771. # [07:49] * philor decides against filing a bug to remove it, for fear that we'll instead add the 1.5, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8, 1.9, 1.10 and 2.0 tests
772. # [07:49] <@bz_sleep> I've considered filing a bug to add those, yes
773. # [07:50] <philor> might as well, I think we're still under 10 million tests per push
774. # [07:50] <@bz_sleep> A strage sense of mercy stayed my hand
775. # [07:50] <@bz_sleep> That said, if I could get those run once a day, I would totally do it
776. # [07:50] <philor> of course, we can't really say we actually run the version we have
777. # [07:50] <philor> since we've disabled half of it
778. # [07:50] <@bz_sleep> mm
779. # [07:51] <philor> that being our sole form of maintenance of it, a pro forma r?=jresig and then disable
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781. # [07:52] <philor> huh, it's 1.2, could have sworn it was 1.4
782. # [07:53] <philor> oh, that's MochiKit
783. # [07:53] <philor> which, conveniently, is the last version
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795. # [08:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d219bb72548 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 933044 - Push style scopes even if we would skip pushing ancestors when there is no ancestor filter. r=bz
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797. # [08:13] <mjrosenb> Jesse_: ping?
798. # [08:14] <mjrosenb> Jesse_: don't know when you'll be around/how large your scrollback is, but it looks like arch is going for 'python' to default to python3, so lithium no longer works without changing #!/usr/bin/env python to #!/usr/bin/env python2
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803. # [08:24] <shu> mjrosenb: here's what i have in ~/bin
804. # [08:24] <shu> lrwxrwxrwx 1 shu wheel 16 Nov 5 00:33 python -> /usr/bin/python2*
805. # [08:24] <shu> lrwxrwxrwx 1 shu wheel 23 Nov 5 00:33 python-config -> /usr/bin/python2-config*
806. # [08:24] <shu> mjrosenb: make sure ~/bin comes first in $PATH and you're good to go
807. # [08:27] <mjrosenb> shu: I feel like this solution is not maintainable going forward.
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810. # [08:28] <shu> mjrosenb: why not?
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812. # [08:30] <mjrosenb> shu: because now that there are multiple distros that are defaulting to python 3, there will be more code that assumes that 'python' means python3
813. # [08:30] <mjrosenb> and that ~/bin hack will break them.
814. # [08:30] <shu> mjrosenb: there will always been an ambiguity whether you expect 'python' to be python2 or python3 though
815. # [08:30] <shu> mjrosenb: so it'll always be wrong for some, it's just a question of the majority of the scripts that you run
816. # [08:31] <shu> mjrosenb: for me the only python scripts i run are the moz stuff, so that works out
817. # [08:31] <mjrosenb> *nod*
818. # [08:31] <Jesse_> on my mac there is no "python2", so i can't just change the hashbang line to python2 :/
819. # [08:33] <mjrosenb> Jesse_: ooh :-(
820. # [08:33] <@bz_sleep> Jesse_: Change it to python2.7 ?
821. # [08:33] <mjrosenb> yay, software!
822. # [08:33] <Peng> Is it compatible with 2.6? Does anyone still use 2.6?
823. # [08:33] <Jesse_> you should be able to run "python2 lithium.py ..." instead of "./lithium.py" for now
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825. # [08:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f5bbe846139 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 936670 - Position text rendered runs by the first non-trimmed character in the run. r=longsonr
826. # [08:34] <@bz_sleep> Mac has python2.6, python2.7
827. # [08:34] <@bz_sleep> python2.5
828. # [08:34] <mjrosenb> Jesse_: well, I usually run it from my object directory
829. # [08:34] <mjrosenb> so it would be python2 `which lithium.py`
830. # [08:34] <@bz_sleep> I suppose you could also symlink one of those to ~/bin/python2 or something else in your PATH
831. # [08:35] <@bz_sleep> Welcome to the modern version of DLL hell. :(
832. # [08:35] <@bz_sleep> python version hell
833. # [08:35] <mjrosenb> brought to you by guido!
834. # [08:35] <Jesse_> does the name "python2.7" work everywhere?
835. # [08:35] <@bz_sleep> Jesse_: I seriously doubt it
836. # [08:35] <Peng> Jesse_: It doesn't work if someone only has 2.6..
837. # [08:35] <@bz_sleep> So
838. # [08:35] <mjrosenb> he's working at dropbox in S.F. we should pay him a visit some day :-p
839. # [08:35] <Peng> What's Mozilla's bribery and assassination budget? Because there aren't *that* many distros who insist on making "python" Python 3.
840. # [08:35] <shu> mjrosenb: i was just going to suggest that
841. # [08:35] <@bz_sleep> My linux box...
842. # [08:35] <Jesse_> can most python scripts be made to be valid in python 2.7 and python 3 at the same time?
843. # [08:36] <@bz_sleep> Has a python2.6 in /use/bin
844. # [08:36] <@bz_sleep> but no python2.7
845. # [08:36] <mjrosenb> Peng: the issue is that the number is expected to increase, not decrease.
846. # [08:36] <@bz_sleep> But it's an old distro
847. # [08:36] <gaston> bz_sleep: philor|away: yeah sorry my libffi configure change required a clobber
848. # [08:36] <mjrosenb> Jesse_: "yes"
849. # [08:36] * @bz_sleep wonders whether newer distros would have a python2.7 but not python2.6
850. # [08:36] <shu> bz_sleep: i have python2.7 and python3.3, no 2.6
851. # [08:36] <@bz_sleep> I believe we already assume that python2.7 exists
852. # [08:37] <@bz_sleep> since I do have it in ~/bin
853. # [08:37] <@bz_sleep> And I must have had a reason to do something insane like that
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855. # [08:37] <@bz_sleep> I guess we actually only depend on the "python" during build being 2.7.....
856. # [08:38] <gaston> bz_sleep: fwiw i use PYTHON=/usr/local/bin/python2.7 in .mozconfig for that
857. # [08:38] <@bz_sleep> ~% ls -l /home/bzbarsky/bin/python
858. # [08:38] <@bz_sleep> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 bzbarsky bzbarsky 38 2013-01-09 22:03 /home/bzbarsky/bin/python -> /home/bzbarsky/CustomBuilds/bin/python*
859. # [08:38] <@bz_sleep> ~% ls -l /home/bzbarsky/CustomBuilds/bin/python
860. # [08:38] <@bz_sleep> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 bzbarsky bzbarsky 7 2013-01-09 21:57 /home/bzbarsky/CustomBuilds/bin/python -> python2*
861. # [08:38] <@bz_sleep> ~% ls -l /home/bzbarsky/CustomBuilds/bin/python2
862. # [08:38] <@bz_sleep> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 bzbarsky bzbarsky 9 2013-01-09 21:57 /home/bzbarsky/CustomBuilds/bin/python2 -> python2.7*
863. # [08:38] <@bz_sleep> ok
864. # [08:38] <@bz_sleep> really really sleep
865. # [08:38] <mjrosenb> Jesse_: http://python3porting.com/noconv.html and http://pydev.blogspot.com/2008/11/making-code-work-in-python-2-and-3.html
866. # [08:38] <mjrosenb> bz_sleep: you should ask an op to kick you :-p
867. # [08:38] <shu> bz_sleep: aw i was going to ask you something
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882. # [09:09] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
883. # [09:13] <Ms2ger> philor|away, gone already?
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885. # [09:14] <shu> Ms2ger: do you know the mochitest harness?
886. # [09:14] <Ms2ger> Somewhat
887. # [09:15] <shu> Ms2ger: if i want to add a new file that makes available some functionality in both the BC and normal harnesses, how do i make sure that test is loaded?
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889. # [09:15] <shu> Ms2ger: i see places where browser-test.js loads scripts it needs, but i can't figure it out for the normal mochitest harness
890. # [09:15] <shu> Ms2ger: err, how do i make sure that new file is loaded
891. # [09:16] <Ms2ger> No idea off hand
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906. # [09:31] <shu> okay, i will try to cargo cult this all the way to the pacific
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911. # [09:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e88f511e067 - Cameron McCormack - Fix title text in test; no bug. (DONTBUILD)
912. # [09:50] <mjrosenb> does it make sense that a debug libmozjs can't be used with a non-debug project?
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914. # [09:53] <avih> whom should i contact about a possibly inconsistent documentation on webVtt here? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/WebVTT
915. # [09:55] <Ms2ger> #devmo?
916. # [09:57] <avih> Ms2ger: what's #devmo about?
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918. # [09:57] <Ms2ger> dev[eloper.]m[ozilla.]o[rg]
919. # [09:58] <avih> hmm.. how is it different than this #?
920. # [09:58] <avih> oh, the list?
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926. # [10:06] <avih> this is one twisted algotithm... http://dev.w3.org/html5/webvtt/#dfn-collect-a-webvtt-timestamp
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928. # [10:08] <avih> the main issue with the mdn doc is that it says that at the timestamp in the form of [hh:]mm:ss.ttt, the hh part cannot be lower than 01, indicating that the hh part should not be used if the timestamp is less than an hour. but most of the samples on that page do show timestamps like 00:05:20.000 which is inconsistent with the description. and the w3c algorithm to parse the timestamp is messy.
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930. # [10:09] <avih> making it hard to interpret the standard
931. # [10:11] <@smaug> avih: file a least spec bugs then :)
932. # [10:11] <@smaug> (and fix mdn documentation ? )
933. # [10:11] <avih> smaug: what's "a least spec"?
934. # [10:11] <@smaug> s/a/at/
935. # [10:12] <@smaug> specs tend to be at least as buggy as implementations
936. # [10:13] <avih> smaug: it's not that it's buggy, it may be not buggy, but the way the algorithm is presented is twisted. it mixes parsing and contextual errors (comparing the values to the input length which is not part of the parsed string). it should be 1. parse timestamps (and other data) 2. verify that the timestamps are valid.
937. # [10:15] <mjrosenb> avih: the js spec also does crazy things, like defining parse errors that aren't detectible until runtime.
938. # [10:15] <avih> 3. make sure the timestamps are also contextually val;id
939. # [10:15] <@smaug> if a spec is really hard to read, it should be modified to be readable. Hard to read specs lead to bugs in implementations
940. # [10:15] <avih> yeah
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943. # [10:16] <avih> smaug: glad i'm not part of this group ;)
944. # [10:16] <mjrosenb> unless the spec is a blob of python/c++ code
945. # [10:16] <avih> though i wouldn't mind emailing someone about it
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947. # [10:16] <mjrosenb> in which case, it should be re-written because that is a horrible idea, what were you thinking?
948. # [10:16] <@smaug> avih: you can still just file a w3c bug
949. # [10:17] <@smaug> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/enter_bug.cgi?product=HTML%20WG
950. # [10:17] <mjrosenb> so, is anyone familiar with our build infrastructure (the make files, etc.)?
951. # [10:17] <avih> mjrosenb: it's not in code. it's a textual descfription of an algorithm
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953. # [10:18] <mjrosenb> avih: yeah, I was just saying hard to read does not imply bugs in implementation. code can be very hard to read, but you can probably translate it into whatever language you want without introducing bugs
954. # [10:18] <avih> mjrosenb: i said the same.
955. # [10:18] <mjrosenb> but i'm just playing devil's advocate. specs should never be code.
956. # [10:18] <@smaug> oh, that spec is from community group, not html wg
957. # [10:19] <@smaug> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/enter_bug.cgi?product=TextTracks%20CG&component=WebVTT&short_desc=[WebVTT]
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960. # [10:22] <mjrosenb> it looks like there is an issue, where if you build the js engine with debugging enabled, and ship it as a library, in order to link against it, you *MUST* enable debugging.
961. # [10:22] <mjrosenb> this seems like a bug.
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963. # [10:23] <mjrosenb> unless we have a good reason for this and/or document it somewhere
964. # [10:23] <tbsaunde> enable debugging == make the jseng headers copmile with DEBUG defined?
965. # [10:23] <mjrosenb> tbsaunde: yes.
966. # [10:23] <tbsaunde> mjrosenb: because of struct size or what?
967. # [10:24] <mjrosenb> darkxst: I don't know if I gave you enough context. it looks like you can explicitly force it to use a long as a jsid by defining JS_NO_JSVAL_JSID_STRUCT_TYPES when building libmozjs
968. # [10:24] <mjrosenb> tbsaunde: no, because jsid is a struct with DEBUG defined and a ptrdiff_t without it
969. # [10:25] <mjrosenb> tbsaunde: so the functions get mangled differently, and you end up with a bunch of link errors.
970. # [10:25] <tbsaunde> oh, and that goes into symbol mangling bleh
971. # [10:26] <tbsaunde> sounds like something to fix in the jseng not the build system though
972. # [10:26] <mjrosenb> tbsaunde: maybe?
973. # [10:27] <mjrosenb> there should probably be a build mode where even though we turn on all of the debugging options, we don't change any types so you can link without defining DEBUG
974. # [10:27] <mjrosenb> then again, this means that we'll break if the embedder defines DEBUG.
975. # [10:28] <mjrosenb> but I also think that the feature is good to have.
976. # [10:28] <mjrosenb> I guess it should just be independent of DEBUG, since that gets used everywhere.
977. # [10:28] <tbsaunde> why can't it always be the same type?
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980. # [10:30] <darkxst> mjrosenb, all I did was add --enable-debug to the mozjs build
981. # [10:31] <mjrosenb> darkxst: that automatically defines DEBUG in the build.
982. # [10:31] <mjrosenb> tbsaunde: https://gist.github.com/7511284
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984. # [10:32] <darkxst> mjrosenb, sure, but gjs should not have to define it also
985. # [10:33] <mjrosenb> darkxst: right. and I'm arguing that JS_USE_JSID_STRUCT_TYPES should be independent of DEBUG
986. # [10:33] <mjrosenb> darkxst: so we don't fail to link if they did not define it the same way
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988. # [10:35] <mjrosenb> darkxst: an other option is if you generate a .pc for libmozjs, it could add -DDEBUG to the required cflags when libmozjs was built with debugging
989. # [10:35] <mjrosenb> but that is an awful idea.
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991. # [10:36] <tbsaunde> mjrosenb: yeah making those independent seems reasonable, though I bet always using a struct wouldn't actually hurt anyything
992. # [10:36] <mjrosenb> ../../src/ion/shared/IonAssemblerBuffer.h:145:5: note: no known conversion for argument 1 from 'js::ion::BufferOffsetList' to 'js::ion::BufferOffsetList&'
993. # [10:36] <mjrosenb> dafuq?
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996. # [10:38] <tbsaunde> mjrosenb: that is special
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1001. # [10:40] <mjrosenb> is it reasonable to expect rvalue references to be supported?
1002. # [10:41] <darkxst> mjrosenb, I really don't get why the embedder needs to know that in first place
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1005. # [10:42] <tbsaunde> mjrosenb: yes
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1008. # [10:46] <mjrosenb> darkxst: the embedder certainly needs to know if they are supposed to use jsid structs or not, and that can be carried by the pc stuff. jsid structs probably shouldn't depend on debug, since it isn't reasonable to make embedders know about that.
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1011. # [10:48] <darkxst> mjrosenb, right, they work on a non-debug build, and then fail on a debug build.
1012. # [10:49] <darkxst> which seems just plain inconsistent
1013. # [10:50] <mjrosenb> darkxst: for now, I'd pass in -DJS_NO_JSVAL_JSID_STRUCT_TYPES and file a bug?
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1015. # [10:50] <mjrosenb> since there is currently a kill-switch
1016. # [10:51] <mjrosenb> but there isn't a force-on switch
1017. # [10:51] <shu> has anyone experienced |dump| just seemingly dropping some lines in the mochitest console output? this is being run via ./mach
1018. # [10:51] <mjrosenb> other than DEBUG, which is almost certainly going to be problematic.
1019. # [10:51] <shu> like, i'm getting randomly unbalanced TEST-START and TEST-END. i don't get it
1020. # [10:53] <darkxst> mjrosenb, ok will do
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1027. # [11:00] <darkxst> mjrosenb, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=939505
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1030. # [11:06] <mjrosenb> darkxst: s.
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1036. # [11:14] <mjrosenb> *thanks.
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1040. # [11:29] <mjrosenb> ugh. damnit, const.
1041. # [11:29] <mjrosenb> who ever thought that was a good idea?
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1043. # [11:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bdf16bdfce5a - Simon Montagu - Optimize bidi resolution on blocks without mixed-direction text. Bug 646359, r=roc
1044. # [11:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec7b5c159c31 - Simon Montagu - Bug 936935: Mark lines dirty more accurately in Bidi resolution, r=roc
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1049. # [11:40] <mjrosenb> I suspect I actually want to use mutable here
1050. # [11:40] <mjrosenb> but that is a horrible idea.
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1063. # [11:53] <decoder> ted: do xpcshell tests really use their own environment function? i found "buildEnvironment" in the runxpcshelltests.py file, that suggests it's not using automation.py or something similar. is that right? if thats the case, we'll have to patch it for asan too
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1075. # [12:29] <decoder> can anyone help me writing an xpcshell test that will just crash?
1076. # [12:29] <decoder> any crash will do, e.g. a null deref
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1082. # [12:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/391a82010f2f - Dan Gohman - Bug 901274 - IonMonkey: Refactor a testValueTruthyKernel out of testValueTruthy and use it to enable a fallthrough in visitTestNotV. r=waldo
1083. # [12:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4fc6f8d8efb4 - Dan Gohman - Bug 901274 - IonMonkey: Refactor testObjectTruthy and testValueTruthy to use more fallthroughs. r=waldo
1084. # [12:52] <tbsaunde> decoder: call some random xpcom method that doesn't allow passing null (can't think of one off hand but they exist)
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1093. # [13:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2aa5028f2c6c - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 938322. Force layout.css.devPixelsPerPx to 1.0 for reftests on all Android devices. r=gbrown
1094. # [13:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba6e69527aca - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 938316. Work around fractional texture resampling issues by switching to NEAREST sampling when we're doing a pixel-aligned compositing operation. r=jrmuizel
1095. # [13:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/462ad2c7758a - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 913444. Track restyling of margins and treat such nodes as active scrolled roots. r=mattwoodrow
1096. # [13:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8511ef9264fa - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 876321. Track restyling of top/left/right/bottom and treat such nodes as active scrolled roots. r=mattwoodrow
1097. # [13:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7c032eb51b4 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 937987. Don't use lowp for texture coordinates. Only use it for colors. r=bjacob
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1099. # [13:19] <ttaubert> decoder: something like this? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/thumbnails/test/thumbnails_crash_content_helper.js
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1103. # [13:20] <ttaubert> decoder: oh and the comment mentions CrashTestUtils.jsm being available in xpcshell tests, no idea
1104. # [13:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ac2276b465c - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 938322. Address review comment. r=gbrown
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1108. # [13:28] <Ms2ger> Hmm, roc has 50 reviews in his queue
1109. # [13:28] <Ms2ger> Maybe I should pick someone else
1110. # [13:28] <Ms2ger> Sorry heycam|away
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1140. # [14:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/03f041d03f24 - Tom Schuster - Bug 939194 - Remove jsval event listeners. r=bz
1141. # [14:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ded0d64f6786 - Tom Schuster - Bug 935696 - Tidy up XPCStringConvert::ReadableToJSVal. r=bz
1142. # [14:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/27c6beb10bbc - Tom Schuster - Bug 933834 - Rename and handlify JS_ValueToString. r=terrence,bz
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1144. # [14:33] <gaston> glandium: does it still make sense to have INSTALL_SDK defaulting to 1 in browser/installer/Makefile.in ? since the sdk doesnt end up in the distributed tar.bz2 iirc, shouldnt it be opt-in instead ?
1145. # [14:34] <gaston> (i have to patch the file to avoid installing the sdk, since there's no knob/option for it..)
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1155. # [14:53] <evilpie> Ms2ger: d'uh you merged and my build fails :(
1156. # [14:54] <evilpie> ah stup ifdef code
1157. # [14:54] <Ms2ger> ?
1158. # [14:55] <Ms2ger> args.rva()?
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1160. # [14:55] <evilpie> yes
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1163. # [14:57] <@ehsan> evilpie: build bustage
1164. # [14:57] <@ehsan> evilpie: seems like a typo? https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/27c6beb10bbc#l6.37
1165. # [14:57] <evilpie> yeah
1166. # [14:57] <evilpie> see above
1167. # [14:57] <Ms2ger> Good that ehsan is watching :)
1168. # [14:58] <Ms2ger> evilpie, are you fixing?
1169. # [14:59] <evilpie> yes I am thinking about the best solution
1170. # [14:59] * @ehsan wanted to land some stuff :/
1171. # [14:59] <@ehsan> evilpie: backout? ;)
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1173. # [15:00] <Ms2ger> evilpie, if you need time to think about it, I'm sure ehsan will be happy to backout :)
1174. # [15:01] <evilpie> I am pretty sure just fixing that type would work
1175. # [15:01] <evilpie> it builds for me
1176. # [15:01] <Ms2ger> Go for it
1177. # [15:01] * zzzzz thinks DONTBUILD patches should land separate from a full cset - we wind up with a whole cset that does not have any builds to regression test from
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1180. # [15:01] <@ehsan> alright, I'll try to land later then I guess :(
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1182. # [15:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30cbd1abde1a - Tom Schuster - Bug 933834 - fix build. r=me
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1184. # [15:06] <evilpie> weird so that hunk of code is only enabled on mac debug?
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1189. # [15:09] <Ms2ger> Oh no, linux too :)
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1207. # [15:22] <evilpie> success one green build :)
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1209. # [15:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f69c9019e0b0 - Philip Chee - Bug 58986 The find dialog should autocomplete recently searched items r=Neil.
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1215. # [15:32] <mihneadb> hi, I'm getting error: use of undeclared identifier 'GL_TEXTURE_RECTANGLE_ARB' when I'm trying to build FF on mavericks. did anybody encounter / fix this?
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1230. # [15:47] <reuben> yes, but it was fixed, update your tree?
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1255. # [16:29] <Ms2ger> evilpie, ping
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1257. # [16:30] <evilpie> back it out :(
1258. # [16:31] <Ms2ger> Alright
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1261. # [16:32] <evilpie> thanks
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1266. # [16:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30ad6f357c6c - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 933947 - Check for sandboxbroker.dll in use from the installer and uninstaller. r=rstrong
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1272. # [16:42] <Ms2ger> Gah
1273. # [16:42] * Ms2ger kicks bbondy
1274. # [16:42] <bbondy> what's wrong?
1275. # [16:42] <Ms2ger> I'm trying to do a backout
1276. # [16:43] <bbondy> was there a way for me to check that? :)
1277. # [16:43] <bbondy> tree says open
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1280. # [16:44] <Ms2ger> You could have read backscroll :)
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1282. # [16:44] <Ms2ger> Here I thought I could get away with not closing the tree on a Sunday ;)
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1284. # [16:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa66c9f42ff4 - Ms2ger - Merge backout.
1285. # [16:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1bc46d4abd0d - Ms2ger - Backout changesets ded0d64f6786:03f041d03f24 and 30cbd1abde1a (bug 935696, bug 933834 and bug 939194) for build bustage.
1286. # [16:44] <bbondy> I don't typically read backscroll for all connected channel when landing stuff, just check tree mesage.
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1288. # [16:45] <Ms2ger> Back in my days... :)
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1333. # [17:37] <achronop> do you know if I can cancel a try job?
1334. # [17:37] * philor|away is now known as philor
1335. # [17:37] <@bz_sleep> achronop: do you know your ldap password?
1336. # [17:37] <achronop> sure
1337. # [17:38] <@bz_sleep> then you can cancel a try job, I'd think
1338. # [17:38] * bz_sleep is now known as bz
1339. # [17:38] * philor gets over the deja vu
1340. # [17:38] <@bz> philor: ;)
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1342. # [17:39] <Ms2ger> Ohcrap, philor is here
1343. # [17:39] * Ms2ger heads off to star some
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1345. # [17:40] <philor> start from the top, I'm coming up from starring the rest of the stuff I backed out last night
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1348. # [17:41] <@bz> philor: so bugzilla got sorted out?
1349. # [17:41] <Ms2ger> ccache: FATAL: Could not create /builds/ccache/f/d/8a737b0a4cb68d7225fa1113076b0b-1914138.o.tmp.stdout.bld-linux64-ec2-092.build.releng.use1.mozilla.com.26035 (permission denied?)
1350. # [17:42] <philor> bz: yeah, phx stayed up when it shouldn't have, six duplicate bugs sheeri's going to tell them to refile, and today while more awake she's going to ponder the orphan comments
1351. # [17:43] <achronop> bz: can you plz tell me more about how to do it?
1352. # [17:43] <@bz> philor: mmm
1353. # [17:43] <@bz> achronop: what's the try push in question?
1354. # [17:43] <@bz> achronop: As in, the tbpl link to it?
1355. # [17:43] <philor> conveniently, a good share of the duplicates were "it says I'm up to date when I'm not" because updates were shut off during the downtime
1356. # [17:43] <@bz> philor: fun
1357. # [17:44] <achronop> bz: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=1cabb798dfa6
1358. # [17:44] <philor> Ms2ger: perm den ccache nsinstall python posix_spawn, bug 753223
1359. # [17:44] <@bz> achronop: OK, if you hover on the whitespace to the left of the 1cabb798dfa6 you get a white cross on a red background
1360. # [17:44] <@bz> achronop: click that
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1362. # [17:45] <Ms2ger> philor, er, on bld-linux64-ec2-088
1363. # [17:46] <achronop> bz: I see ... thanks!
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1365. # [17:48] <@bz> achronop: no problem
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1367. # [17:48] <sheeri> I'm working on them right now, actually
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1369. # [17:48] <sheeri> philor: :D
1370. # [17:48] <sheeri> and bz :D
1371. # [17:49] <hattmammerly> could someone please point me towards where one might check if the user has sync set up?
1372. # [17:49] <philor> sheeri: better you than me, I thought about the nature of the problem for a couple of minutes, and then decided better you than me
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1374. # [17:50] <philor> I'll stick with OOM failures nobody will admit are OOM, like the several many I skipped over on my way up m-i
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1402. # [18:12] <philor> I hate failures in 611498-1.html
1403. # [18:13] <philor> "this one billion repeats of a picture of somebody overlaid over something looks somehow different than another billion repeats of a picture of somebody overlaid over something"
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1407. # [18:15] <philor> but not as much as I hate the way we're suddenly failing browser_fullscreen-window-open.js
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1411. # [18:16] <philor> according to my reading of the test, we go fullscreen, check our innerWidth and innerHeight, then open a sized popup which should be fullscreen rather than the 200x200 we opened it at
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1413. # [18:16] <sheeri> philor: for what it's worth, there were only 3 duplicate bugs, but about 150 duplicate comments/actions, etc.
1414. # [18:16] <philor> but instead of getting the 1600x1200 we were at, or the 200x200 we said, we get 1200x834
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1416. # [18:17] <philor> sheeri: and many of the comments were probably trash, but a few were reviews and added patches and things that will enrage people if they're gone :|
1417. # [18:18] <philor> my only theory for getting 1200x834 is that the Fedora slaves are constantly switching resolution from 1600x1200 to 1200x834
1418. # [18:18] <philor> so in the tens of milliseconds between when we checked our current size and when we opened a popup, we were at a new resolution
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1421. # [18:19] <Ms2ger> If there's one thing we're good at, it's rage-driven development
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1423. # [18:19] <philor> go with your strength, they said
1424. # [18:20] <philor> disable those damn editing imptests, they said
1425. # [18:20] <sheeri> philor: yes, I found some pretty important stuff!
1426. # [18:21] <sheeri> philor: all the stuff I've found, I put back in.
1427. # [18:21] <sheeri> so things should be good now, and I'm going off to shower, I left the bug open in case there's anything specific that people note.
1428. # [18:21] <Ms2ger> philor, no, that's what *you* said ;)
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1430. # [18:22] * philor looks at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=939546
1431. # [18:23] <philor> that looks pretty seriously busted, with the one-character wide textarea
1432. # [18:23] <Ms2ger> Heh
1433. # [18:23] <philor> benjamin: ^ your zone interators bug is back, but good luck adding a comment to it
1434. # [18:24] <Ms2ger> Fortunately you can resize the textarea
1435. # [18:24] <Ms2ger> Otoh, the attachment is dead
1436. # [18:24] <philor> oh yeah, I'm so used to automatic resizing I don't think about manual
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1438. # [18:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35d5387c2427 - Geoff Brown - Bug 936226 - (2) Adjust reftest manifests for Android x86; r=dminor
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1440. # [18:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/939d21bf7547 - Geoff Brown - Bug 938920 - Remove stale references from xpcshell_android.ini; r=jmaher
1441. # [18:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd29aa2bd7d6 - Geoff Brown - Bug 862478 - Import devicemanager from mozdevice in remotexpcshelltests.py; r=jmaher
1442. # [18:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc71ea414dc8 - Geoff Brown - Bug 892118 - Suppress annoying Android x86 emu logcat message; r=jmaher
1443. # [18:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c963bda643c - Geoff Brown - Bug 936226 - (3) Adjust mochitest manifests for Android x86; r=dminor
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1450. # [18:31] <philor> the problem with saving ourselves by printing memory stats after every mochitest is, it assumes people won't write a single mochitest which is the entire problem
1451. # [18:31] * nthomas|away is now known as nthomas
1452. # [18:32] <Ms2ger> Eh?
1453. # [18:32] <philor> YES I MEAN YOU
1454. # [18:33] <Ms2ger> Ohai
1455. # [18:33] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30643792&full=1&branch=mozilla-inbound#error0
1456. # [18:33] <philor> is that an OOM? let's check the vsize and heapAllocated and largestContiguousVMBlock that we print after every... oh, the last "after a test" was long long ago
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1459. # [18:35] <Ms2ger> Can't say I'm a fan of that style of tests
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1464. # [18:40] <philor> yeah, we need to have a mochitest-exhaustive (mochitest-exhausting) that we only run every four hours, in a separate chunk or multiple separate chunks
1465. # [18:40] <philor> but can then trigger on the intervening pushes
1466. # [18:40] <philor> which only requires work from three separate silos, so it should be no problem to get done
1467. # [18:41] <Ms2ger> :/
1468. # [18:42] <philor> releng is motivated to do the part about making it possible to trigger things that didn't run, so at least we've got that going for us
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1471. # [18:43] <philor> since apparently we're to the point where our exhaustive insistence on running several million tests per push is sort of expensive
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1479. # [18:55] <+benjamin> philor: magic
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1484. # [18:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/599361c6376d - Jan Beich - Bug 939532 - Re-apply lost hunk from bug 807492, forgotten in bd8f1571937f. r=jesup
1485. # [18:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ac2fad87f3c - John Schoenick - Bug 939355 - Include string.h in gfx/2d/unittest/TestBugs.cpp r=bgirard
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1497. # [19:12] * philor stars two editing imptest failures that take down the whole suite and require retriggers, on one push
1498. # [19:12] <philor> tick tick tick
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1500. # [19:14] <mccr8> weird, I get "Service unavailable" when I connect to bugzilla in Firefox, but it seems okay in Chrome (where I'm not logged in)
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1503. # [19:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/75ece7541d97 - Chris Peterson - Bug 936989 - Fix -Wunused-variable warnings in nsIdleService.cpp. r=vladv
1504. # [19:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b86f07b08a8b - Chris Peterson - Bug 939121 - Build netwerk/ipc, protocol, socket, srtp, and wifi in unified mode. r=mcmanus
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1507. # [19:18] <mccr8> updating Nightly seemed to fix my bugzilla problem. or something.
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1513. # [19:24] <@smaug> mccr8: some caching thing
1514. # [19:24] <mccr8> weird
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1516. # [19:24] <@smaug> shift+reload would have fixed it too
1517. # [19:25] <mccr8> ah, thanks
1518. # [19:25] <@smaug> at least fixed here
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1521. # [19:26] <philor> the lesson here is to completely take off the time during any maintenance window
1522. # [19:26] <philor> that way you avoid having your browser still think bugzilla is in phx
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1524. # [19:27] <mccr8> I just can't help myself.
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1531. # [19:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb541c67920f - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 938848 - Build layout/forms in unified mode; r=glandium
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1536. # [19:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f77a15c224c - Tom Schuster - Bug 935696 - Tidy up XPCStringConvert::ReadableToJSVal. r=bz
1537. # [19:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf9ea7edd6e2 - Tom Schuster - Bug 933834 - Rename and handlify JS_ValueToString. r=terrence,bz
1538. # [19:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8941d521daee - Tom Schuster - Bug 939194 - Remove jsval event listeners. r=bz
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1544. # [19:41] <philor> blergh, we were closed for the weekly blocklist updates
1545. # [19:42] <philor> oh well, I wanted an excuse to go on the hook for every release branch
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1553. # [19:48] <philor> "plugin@getwebcake.com"? what could we possibly have against getting web cake?
1554. # [19:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7974db6aada6 - philringnalda@gmail.com - No bug, Automated blocklist update from host slice - a=blocklist-update
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1556. # [19:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e3b4cb5a0c61 - philringnalda@gmail.com - No bug, Automated blocklist update from host slice - a=blocklist-update
1557. # [19:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b17c85dfc6e0 - Byron Campen [:bwc] - Bug 933360. Change GlobalPCList._list from an array to an object, and rewrite some teardown code r=jib
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1559. # [19:53] <philor> somebody tell me about "ABORT: bad Shmem: file ./PImageBridgeParent.cpp, line 737"
1560. # [19:53] <Ms2ger> I can tell you *stab* *stab* *stab*
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1564. # [19:55] <philor> we have bug 932601; we have jesup saying toporange bug 930481 is a dupe of it despite no obvious similarities; now we have test_browserElement_oop_CookiesNotThirdParty.html as seen in the former hanging instead of aborting, making me want to back ehsan out over it
1565. # [19:55] <philor> or to close the tree again, and say "nope, this still isn't an acceptable state"
1566. # [19:56] <philor> since with a tiny weekend number of pushes, we've got 17 or 18 new unfiled failures already
1567. # [19:56] <NeilAway> was there a bug on the recent bugzilla issues?
1568. # [19:56] * bjacob__ is now known as bjacob
1569. # [19:56] <Ms2ger> Me: http://christianheilmann.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/strips.png
1570. # [19:56] <philor> NeilAway: the disappearing comments? yeah, though of course, IT, it's gone behind the infra wall
1571. # [19:57] <philor> you need a cc to mention something that's still phx-only?
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1573. # [19:57] <NeilAway> philor: well, bug 58986 has a review granted in its history but the flag still shows as pending in the bug itself
1574. # [19:58] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: heh
1575. # [20:00] <philor> cc'ed and commented
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1579. # [20:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c1363c1902f - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 938134 - Build widget/xpwidgets in unified mode; r=roc
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1589. # [20:11] <philor> hmm, "heapAllocated after test: 97064584" (test times out) "heapAllocated after test: 68489416"
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1591. # [20:11] <philor> conclusion: we need more tests to time out
1592. # [20:12] <mccr8> when the test suite hangs there's nothing for the browser to do but run GC and CC, so it makes sense the memory drops a bit
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1600. # [20:16] <Jesse> and expire things from time-based caches
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1603. # [20:18] <NeilAway> philor: ta
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1608. # [20:21] <NeilAway> philor: whoa, something went very wrong with some of those attachments, there's actually one numbered 8333512 in bug 842439 ;-)
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1610. # [20:23] <philor> NeilAway: sure, that'll be a problem when we get there for real, but we'll be long gone by then, won't we?
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1612. # [20:23] <philor> I certainly hope not to be around for another 7 million and change attachments
1613. # [20:26] <@bz> mmm
1614. # [20:26] * @bz writes some script wrappers around bzexport
1615. # [20:26] <@bz> sheeri: ping
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1620. # [20:28] * @bz hopes peacekeeper is as dumb as it seems to be
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1623. # [20:31] <@bz> Do we not have an existing bug about form validation messages not playing nice with transforms?
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1636. # [20:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f459062ebda8 - Patrick McManus - bug 895700 - load user fonts at high priority r=roc
1637. # [20:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/044eb80709a5 - Patrick McManus - bug 937612 - speculative connect after shutdown r=mayhemer
1638. # [20:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/249913d17777 - Patrick McManus - bug 831153 iframes are not reloaded on shift reload r=bz
1639. # [20:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/949dfae30261 - Patrick McManus - Bug 937867 - typo of mCriticalRequestPrioritization r=hurley
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1644. # [20:51] <Ms2ger> bz, don't you usually hope that benchmarks aren't dumb?
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1646. # [20:52] <@bz> Ms2ger: it depends
1647. # [20:52] * @bz is still measuring
1648. # [20:52] <@bz> ms2ger: when I think I might be able to DCE the benchmark.... ;)
1649. # [20:52] <Ms2ger> Heh
1650. # [20:53] <Ms2ger> Isn't peacekeeper the one with the fancy animations?
1651. # [20:53] <Ms2ger> Or is that dromaeo?
1652. # [20:54] <@bz> Ms2ger: peacekeeper has various bits
1653. # [20:54] <@bz> some of it is fancy animations
1654. # [20:54] <@bz> some is dumb-as-rocks microbenchmarks
1655. # [20:54] <@bz> Dumber than dromaeo
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1680. # [20:55] * Ms2ger wonders if "procrastination" is a skill you can put on your cv
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1687. # [20:55] <@bz> ms2ger: only if you're running for a position on the Fed
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1692. # [20:55] <Ms2ger> Mm, don't think so
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1721. # [21:03] <@bz> mmm
1722. # [21:03] <@bz> ion is not playing along
1723. # [21:03] * @bz digs into why
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1725. # [21:04] <ckitching> Ms2ger: If you put it on your CV, you prove you're no good at it.
1726. # [21:04] <ckitching> :P
1727. # [21:04] <Ms2ger> ckitching, well, I never started on my CV
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1730. # [21:04] <Ms2ger> So that's a point in favour :)
1731. # [21:04] <ckitching> Perfect. The null CV indicates you're a master at it. :P
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1734. # [21:04] <ckitching> Unfortunately few HR departments are null-safe.
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1737. # [21:05] <Ms2ger> I might test if MoCo is at some point :)
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1739. # [21:06] <ckitching> I found a 1 page CV to be fairly effective. :P
1740. # [21:06] <ckitching> Although if you're known to them from contributing then maybe you need less? I don't know how it works.
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1742. # [21:07] <evilpie> I did like one page
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1744. # [21:07] * @bz never did one for moco. ;)
1745. # [21:07] <evilpie> didn't really have much to put on it, with zero work experience
1746. # [21:07] <ckitching> In general, I think multi-page CVs aren't a great idea.
1747. # [21:08] <@bz> depends on field
1748. # [21:08] <ckitching> Single-page ones are usually more busy-person-friendly.
1749. # [21:08] <ckitching> I guess. I think a fairly common thing is to have a standalone one-page CV and the second page being a list of publications.
1750. # [21:08] <evilpie> my german CV and my english CV are quite different
1751. # [21:08] <ckitching> Ah,
1752. # [21:08] <ckitching> Cultural differences?
1753. # [21:09] <Ms2ger> Things you don't want us to know? :)
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1759. # [21:09] <evilpie> well for starters one is in latex the other in word
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1761. # [21:10] <@bz> interesting
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1763. # [21:10] <@bz> Which one is which?
1764. # [21:11] <evilpie> german one is word
1765. # [21:11] <ckitching> evilpie: If a tech company insists I send my CV in Word I do not want to work for them.
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1768. # [21:11] <evilpie> haven't used in a while though, maybe I could switch to latex
1769. # [21:11] <ckitching> So that's a simple solution to that problem. :P
1770. # [21:11] <ckitching> If you don't accept pdfs you're probably not technically competent enough to not be annoying.
1771. # [21:12] <ckitching> Unclear if this policy is a terrible plan :P
1772. # [21:12] <evilpie> well sadly sometimes you need CVs for other non work stuff
1773. # [21:12] <@bz> rarely
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1776. # [21:12] <@bz> as time goes on
1777. # [21:12] <evilpie> visas, school
1778. # [21:13] <evilpie> probably truee
1779. # [21:13] <evilpie> some grant I applied for
1780. # [21:13] <ckitching> A school that demands my CV in Word format is probably also not a place I want to go study.. :P
1781. # [21:13] <@bz> mmm
1782. # [21:13] <@bz> unclear
1783. # [21:14] <Ms2ger> ckitching, if you're basing your choice of school on whoever takes in cvs... :)
1784. # [21:14] <evilpie> maybe they automated some awesome word extraction process
1785. # [21:14] <evilpie> I heard Mozilla actually just copies the text from the CV in plain text
1786. # [21:14] <ckitching> evilpie: This is perhaps a sensible approach.
1787. # [21:15] <ckitching> But my TeX layout! :P
1788. # [21:15] <ckitching> It was so beautiful!
1789. # [21:15] <Ms2ger> More like, your weird TeX characters :)
1790. # [21:15] <ckitching> Oh, that's a point.
1791. # [21:15] <ckitching> Its internship/job applying time again.
1792. # [21:15] <ckitching> I hate indeterminate graduation years.
1793. # [21:15] <Archaeopteryx> at least he is outstanding from the 1000 applications per week
1794. # [21:16] <ckitching> Is that how many Mozilla gets?
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1797. # [21:16] <ckitching> On a vaguely related sidenote: I feel sorry for Google recruiters. I suspect this year they're going to see a huge increase in insane applications thanks to the movie, "The Internship" :P
1798. # [21:16] <Archaeopteryx> afaik yes, but i don't know if job applications or also internships
1799. # [21:16] <ckitching> Ah.
1800. # [21:17] <Ms2ger> Mozilla gets â– â– â– â– â– , from what I heard ;)
1801. # [21:17] <ckitching> I remain surprised that they didn't flee on sight, then.
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1803. # [21:17] <evilpie> I heard the 1k figure as well
1804. # [21:17] <ckitching> A line of squares?
1805. # [21:17] <evilpie> he means 5 figures
1806. # [21:18] <ckitching> Ah.
1807. # [21:18] <Ms2ger> Nah, I meant that I never heard anything
1808. # [21:18] <Archaeopteryx> money has 5 characters
1809. # [21:18] * stefanh|away is now known as stefanh
1810. # [21:18] <ckitching> Clearly, you meant to say [0-9]{5} :P
1811. # [21:18] <evilpie> haha Ms2ger I certainly know better what you want to say then you
1812. # [21:19] <Ms2ger> With that many applications, you'd think they could hire someone to do all the work I don't have time to do :)
1813. # [21:19] <evilpie> 00001
1814. # [21:19] <evilpie> bad regexp
1815. # [21:19] <@bz> evilpie: do you understand resume points?
1816. # [21:19] <evilpie> understand is a big word
1817. # [21:19] <ckitching> Resume points?
1818. # [21:19] <ckitching> This exists?
1819. # [21:19] <Ms2ger> Not résumé points
1820. # [21:19] * jchen|away is now known as jchen
1821. # [21:19] <ckitching> Oh, resume point.
1822. # [21:20] <ckitching> I see.
1823. # [21:20] <ckitching> This is why we call them CVs.
1824. # [21:20] <evilpie> lebenslauf punkte
1825. # [21:20] <ckitching> And also why I need to configure my compose key.
1826. # [21:20] <@bz> evilpie: ok, let me rephrase
1827. # [21:20] <evilpie> bz: I know why we have them
1828. # [21:20] <@bz> evilpie: That would be a good start, actually.
1829. # [21:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/604bf3977dc5 - Christian Legnitto - Bug 935377 - Firefox should fix common scheme typos, r=bz
1830. # [21:20] <evilpie> at least in most cases
1831. # [21:21] * Ms2ger blinks
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1833. # [21:21] <Ms2ger> LegNeato landing directly on central?
1834. # [21:21] <Ms2ger> What year is it?
1835. # [21:21] <@bz> ms2ger: writing patches, too
1836. # [21:21] <Ms2ger> Sounds like we'll have to invite him next summit :)
1837. # [21:22] <@bz> evilpie: I can explain my actual situation in more detail too, if that would help
1838. # [21:22] <evilpie> okay, I can certainly look at the code for you
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1840. # [21:22] <@bz> So right nw in IonBuilder::makeCall
1841. # [21:22] <@bz> we have:
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1843. # [21:22] <@bz> current->push(call);
1844. # [21:22] <@bz> if (!resumeAfter(call))
1845. # [21:22] <@bz> return false;
1846. # [21:22] <evilpie> ok
1847. # [21:23] <@bz> Does it need to do the resumeAfter in cases when !call->isEffectful()?
1848. # [21:23] <@bz> Some other places in IonBuilder have an effectful check before doing resumeAfter
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1850. # [21:23] <evilpie> ::resume has this assert
1851. # [21:23] <evilpie> JS_ASSERT(ins->isEffectful() || !ins->isMovable());
1852. # [21:23] <@bz> well
1853. # [21:23] <@bz> my call is not movable
1854. # [21:24] <@bz> because we don't know how to move calls
1855. # [21:24] <@bz> So it passes the asser
1856. # [21:24] <@bz> but it's also not effectful
1857. # [21:24] <@bz> (and it _will_ become movable one day, I hope!)
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1859. # [21:24] <@bz> So I'd like to understand the goal of resumepoints
1860. # [21:24] <@bz> To see if I really need one here
1861. # [21:24] <evilpie> I see let me think
1862. # [21:25] <evilpie> I don't think you need a resumePoint if what you do can never fail
1863. # [21:25] <@bz> mmm
1864. # [21:25] <evilpie> because in that case we wouldn't use it I think
1865. # [21:25] <@bz> I don't claim to never fail
1866. # [21:26] <@bz> but in practice, in the non-effectful case the only way I could fail would be via OOM, I believe
1867. # [21:26] * @bz would need to verify this
1868. # [21:26] <@bz> (it's a bit of a lie, actually)
1869. # [21:26] <@bz> Too many edge cases. :(
1870. # [21:26] <@bz> Maybe I should finish up the "never fail on OOM" bits.
1871. # [21:27] <evilpie> we resume points to return to the interpreter if something failes
1872. # [21:27] <evilpie> *fails
1873. # [21:27] <@bz> ok
1874. # [21:27] <@bz> So if my call is non-effectful
1875. # [21:27] <evilpie> otherwise we have no idea how to bailout
1876. # [21:27] <@bz> and never throws
1877. # [21:27] <@bz> then we can skip the resume point?
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1879. # [21:28] <evilpie> from my intuition I would say yes
1880. # [21:28] <@bz> ok
1881. # [21:28] * @bz files a bug
1882. # [21:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1082eae712e0 - Ehsan Akhgari - BUg 939569 - Build layout/build in unified mode; r=glandium
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1887. # [21:31] <Ms2ger> layout.build? Is there anything to build there?
1888. # [21:31] <@bz> great provisional success
1889. # [21:31] <@bz> peacekeeper+-
1890. # [21:31] <evilpie> https://twitter.com/LegNeato/status/402170103304687616
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1893. # [21:32] <Ms2ger> But my tps scheme!
1894. # [21:33] <evilpie> le://merde
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1896. # [21:34] <@bz> evilpie: heh
1897. # [21:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/811502df3d2a - Nicholas Cameron - No bug. Fix an ifdef in FrameLayerBuilder. r=mattwoodrow
1898. # [21:35] <philor> oh noes, my hazard build failed while pushing aurora as beta, what shall I... oh
1899. # [21:36] <philor> an inverse try syntax would be handy
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1904. # [21:37] <philor> -p all,-br-hz -u all,-b2g_ubuntu64_vm-mochitest-1
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1906. # [21:38] <gaston> -p all,-broken-archs -u all,-broken-tests
1907. # [21:38] <NeilAway> $Ms2ger =~ s/if/whether/
1908. # [21:39] <Ms2ger> How far back?
1909. # [21:39] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: also, your plural of CVs made me think you were talking about CVS...
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1911. # [21:40] <Ms2ger> Oh, there
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1914. # [21:41] <evilpie> moodle is great, isn't it?
1915. # [21:42] <Ms2ger> Never heard of
1916. # [21:42] <@bz> totally peacekeeper+-
1917. # [21:42] <evilpie> what does that mean bz?
1918. # [21:43] <@bz> It means the benchmark is dumb
1919. # [21:43] <Ms2ger> "It sucks so badly I can optimize it away"
1920. # [21:43] <@bz> yeah
1921. # [21:43] <@bz> Exactly
1922. # [21:43] <evilpie> that is a new level of bad
1923. # [21:43] <@bz> no, it's not
1924. # [21:43] <@bz> dromaeo is similar
1925. # [21:43] <@bz> But not as bad as this
1926. # [21:44] <@bz> document.getElementById("logo");
1927. # [21:44] <@bz> document.getElementById("technologies");
1928. # [21:44] <@bz> document.getElementById("item222");
1929. # [21:44] <@bz>
1930. # [21:44] <@bz> document.getElementsByTagName("a");
1931. # [21:44] <@bz> document.getElementsByTagName("h1");
1932. # [21:44] <evilpie> see new level
1933. # [21:44] <@bz> document.getElementsByTagName("div");
1934. # [21:44] <@bz> That's the benchmark I'm looking at
1935. # [21:44] <@bz> in a loop
1936. # [21:44] <@bz> So once I mark those method calls as not effectful
1937. # [21:44] <@bz> (already done)
1938. # [21:44] <evilpie> is that not even assigned?
1939. # [21:44] <@bz> yes
1940. # [21:44] <evilpie> wow
1941. # [21:44] <@bz> And remove the resume point bit (patch coming up)
1942. # [21:44] <evilpie> and no elements are added/removed?
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1944. # [21:44] <Ms2ger> That doesn't even matter
1945. # [21:45] <@bz> and mark them as infallible (need to push those patches through; blocked on jseng stuff)
1946. # [21:45] <evilpie> I hope I didn't mislead you with that hehe
1947. # [21:45] <@bz> evilpie: so do I!
1948. # [21:45] <@bz> Then jit::EliminateDeadCode will helpfully drop those calls for me
1949. # [21:45] <@bz> and then we're _really_ fast
1950. # [21:45] <@bz> (note: we're faster than Chrome even before this stuff)
1951. # [21:45] <Ms2ger> Then we're benchmarking i++?
1952. # [21:45] <evilpie> while I was in Canada djvj was working on that cool optimization, I think he was still fixing edge cases with it last week ;0
1953. # [21:46] <evilpie> "arguments" suck
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1956. # [21:46] <@bz> Ms2ger: well, probably more machinery than that
1957. # [21:46] <@bz> Ms2ger: but yes
1958. # [21:46] * @bz will have numbers in the bug soon
1959. # [21:46] <evilpie> yaay fast then Chrome :)
1960. # [21:47] <Ms2ger> faster than?
1961. # [21:47] <evilpie> fuuu
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1963. # [21:48] <evilpie> probably one of my most common mistakes
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1965. # [21:48] <Jesse> then can we optimize "for (var i = 0; i < 10000; ++i) { }" to "var i = 10000"? ;)
1966. # [21:49] <@bz> Jesse: harder, because of the stores
1967. # [21:49] <Jesse> bz: what do you mean?
1968. # [21:50] <@bz> jesse: well, we could
1969. # [21:50] <@bz> jesse: but you have to prove things about the stores
1970. # [21:50] <@bz> jesse: like that it's just slot writes, etc
1971. # [21:50] <@bz> jesse: it's not clear how much benefit there would be in practice
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1977. # [21:52] <evilpie> mhm I guess we already have range information for i
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1979. # [21:53] <@smaug> bz: so this will affect to dromaeo the same way as what [Pure] .firstChild did?
1980. # [21:53] <evilpie> we could probably make it work
1981. # [21:54] <@bz> smaug: no
1982. # [21:54] <@bz> smaug: Not yet
1983. # [21:54] <@bz> smaug: So what I've got so far is that I can mark DOM calls as dead code
1984. # [21:54] <@bz> smaug: if their result is not assigned anywhere
1985. # [21:54] <@bz> smaug: which is good enough for peacekeeper
1986. # [21:55] <@smaug> but dromaeo actually does assign?
1987. # [21:55] <@bz> smaug: but dromaeo is pretty careful to always assign the retval
1988. # [21:55] <@smaug> right
1989. # [21:55] <@bz> smaug: because jresig is not stupid.
1990. # [21:55] <@bz> smaug: so for dromaeo we'd need to make DOM calls movable
1991. # [21:55] <@bz> smaug: which is a bit of a production
1992. # [21:55] <@bz> smaug: so they can be loop-hoisted
1993. # [21:55] <@bz> smaug: I _do_ have them marked as side-effect freee
1994. # [21:55] <@bz> smaug: so other movable stuff can hoist past the DOM calls
1995. # [21:56] <@bz> smaug: which is at least a start
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1999. # [21:58] <@bz> evilpie: Want to fix bug 905168?
2000. # [21:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e5ad0efa2149 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 933284 - Initialize cubeb_audiotrack's get_output_samplingrate even on non-Froyo systems. r=padenot
2001. # [21:58] <@bz> For anyone who cares, btw, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=916851#c9 has some fun perf numbers
2002. # [21:59] <@smaug> 450ms->22ms, not bad
2003. # [21:59] * NeilAway sighs
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2005. # [21:59] <NeilAway> why doesn't the devtools debugger have a scrollbar?
2006. # [22:00] <evilpie> bz: that is something I could look into
2007. # [22:00] <@bz> evilpie: I'd really appreciate that!
2008. # [22:00] <@bz> smaug: well, if all the real work is dead code... ;)
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2010. # [22:00] <evilpie> I guess that means taking bug 826587?
2011. # [22:01] <@smaug> bz: sure
2012. # [22:01] <@smaug> benchmarks are silly
2013. # [22:02] <@bz> smaug: that said, I think it's worth pushing through with the whole "mark infallible and side-effect-free DOM methods accordingly"
2014. # [22:02] <@bz> smaug: because it just lets the JIT optimize better
2015. # [22:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e6ac3f67e79 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 929009 - Support mono configurations in WASAPI backend. r=padenot
2016. # [22:02] <@smaug> yeah
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2019. # [22:03] <evilpie> bz: why are all these bugs in DOM>
2020. # [22:04] <@bz> evilpie: which ones?
2021. # [22:04] <evilpie> 939581
2022. # [22:04] <evilpie> 938294
2023. # [22:05] <@bz> 939581 is in jseng:jit
2024. # [22:05] <@bz> 938294 involves a bunch of DOM codegen changes
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2032. # [22:11] <@bz> ok
2033. # [22:11] <@bz> have to r
2034. # [22:11] <@bz> run
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2039. # [22:12] <evilpie> me as well, night
2040. # [22:13] <Ms2ger> I probably should too
2041. # [22:13] * Ms2ger waves
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2049. # [22:19] <Cork> if firefox stops on firefox -no-remote -ProfileManager with "Your Firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible."
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2053. # [22:19] <Cork> what could cause that?
2054. # [22:20] <Cork> i've tried with -profile too and it doens't work
2055. # [22:20] <Archaeopteryx> corrupt profiles.ini?
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2057. # [22:20] <Cork> tried removing it and it doens't change anything
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2084. # [22:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db7cbf61b001 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 810718 (part 2) - Use a uint16_t for PLDHashTable::entrySize.
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2089. # [22:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e24e7d00b56d - Brian Smith - Bug 934663 followup: fix unused variable warning, r=me
2090. # [22:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53dffb3da446 - Brian Smith - Bug 707275, Part 2: Add telemetry for cipher suites and key sizes, r=keeler
2091. # [22:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a8f5e75b8ed8 - Brian Smith - Bug 901718: Remove TLS intolerance fallback from TLS 1.0 to SSL 3.0 for connection resets, r=honzab
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2108. # [23:14] <glandium> what's going on with bugzilla?
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2110. # [23:16] <WG9s> glandium: as in what? it is working for me.
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2116. # [23:18] <glandium> WG9s: O_o "The service is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later."
2117. # [23:19] <@smaug> glandium: shift+reload
2118. # [23:20] <glandium> smaug: worked. That's interesting... simply reloading bugs that i had opened was changing them to the unavailability page.
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2135. # [23:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2bbd3a23d40f - Brian Hackett - Bug 928050 - Remove worker pausing mechanism, r=billm.
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2138. # [23:39] <@njn> hmm
2139. # [23:39] <@njn> we have this: NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS1(MediaDecoder, nsIObserver)
2140. # [23:39] <@njn> despite the fact that MediaDecoder is *not* a subclass of nsIObserver
2141. # [23:39] <@njn> that doesn't feel right
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2145. # [23:40] <@njn> oh wait, it is a subclass of nsIObserver
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2155. # [23:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2c02e984744 - Brian Hackett - Bug 936966 - Fix computation deciding whether to allocate in MNewArray, r=jandem.
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2157. # [23:46] <@njn> glandium: do you know about mozrunner?
2158. # [23:47] <glandium> not much
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2160. # [23:47] <@njn> glandium: I want to land jhammel's patch https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=830911
2161. # [23:47] <@njn> glandium: it has r+
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2163. # [23:47] <@njn> not sure what the commit msg should be
2164. # [23:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3665e0d4066 - Brian Hackett - Bug 930327 - Add test.
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2166. # [23:49] <glandium> njn: Import mozrunner 5.27?
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2169. # [23:49] <@njn> glandium: I don't understand the question
2170. # [23:49] <@njn> glandium: oh
2171. # [23:49] <@njn> you're answering my questoin
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2173. # [23:49] <glandium> indeed
2174. # [23:49] <philor> or "mirror", they quite often use that
2175. # [23:49] <philor> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/filelog/e3b4cb5a0c61/testing/mozbase/mozrunner/setup.py
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2178. # [23:50] <@njn> philor: thanks!
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2180. # [23:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2e9c1bbd258 - Brian Hackett - Bug 936854 - Get the unowned base shape for a shape with the right API, r=jandem.
2181. # [23:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e5063d54b289 - Paul Adenot - Bug 939593 - Resync libcubeb with upstream. r=kinetik
2182. # [23:53] <philor> is "MEMORY STAT heapAllocated after test: 133817504" high?
2183. # [23:53] <@njn> Legneato is landing patches? huh
2184. # [23:53] <@njn> philor: ~133MB? nope
2185. # [23:53] <philor> it dropped right down to 45749902 after the next test timed out
2186. # [23:53] <@njn> philor: add another significant digit and the answer would be "yes"
2187. # [23:54] <shu> njn: do you want to r? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=939414
2188. # [23:54] <shu> njn: not sure who's appropriate to r? that
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2190. # [23:55] <@njn> shu: looking
2191. # [23:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d58ab6f6ca0a - Jeff Hammel - Bug 934542 - Mirror mozrunner. r=njn.
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2195. # [23:58] <@njn> shu: I don't really know about the testing/ stuff; ted might be a better bet
2196. # [23:58] <@njn> shu: w.r.t. the MemoryReporterManager stuff, you measure each thing twice; once to see if it's supported, and once again to show it
2197. # [23:59] <shu> njn: i just copied nfroyd's code for that part
2198. # [23:59] <@njn> shu: the whole dump() fun seems overcomplicated
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2201. # [23:59] <shu> njn: it's only measured twice on the very first test
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