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  1. # Session Start: Mon Nov 18 00:00:00 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
  3. # [00:00] <@njn> shu: ah
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  5. # [00:00] <@njn> shu: ok
  6. # [00:01] <shu> njn: but yeah, it's mainly the testing/ part i wanted someone to look over
  7. # [00:01] <@njn> shu: yeah, sorry
  8. # [00:01] <@njn> shu: it all looks plausible, and if it works on try it's probably ok...
  9. # [00:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f05b7cf7d11 - Brian Hackett - Bug 936403 - Make sure undefined global properties are tracked when generating baseline ICs, r=jandem.
  10. # [00:02] <shu> njn: seems to :) https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=21f3282d636e
  11. # [00:02] <@njn> shu: but I'd ask ted, or look at hg logs for similar code to see who else might know about that stuff
  12. # [00:02] <shu> njn: okay, thanks
  13. # [00:02] <glandium> why can't mercurial deal with simple merges, dammit?
  14. # [00:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1fe0f523e644 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 937540 part 5 - Use placement new syntax for MIR instructions. r=bhackett
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  24. # [00:09] <mccr8> it might be nice if those memory numbers were printed out in MB instead of bytes, or if there were commas or something
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  28. # [00:11] <shu> mccr8: i'm working on the visualizer right now
  29. # [00:11] <mccr8> shu: great!
  30. # [00:12] <shu> mainly wrestling with css :)
  31. # [00:12] <shu> i'm not web designer
  32. # [00:12] <shu> no*
  33. # [00:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56791576d790 - Robert Longson - Bug 939445 - general.appname.override has stopped working. r=smaug
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  38. # [00:20] <@njn> shu: toolkit/components/aboutmemory/content/aboutMemory.js's formatInt() and formatBytes() may be useful
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  41. # [00:20] <philor> somebody's about to lose his OS X privileges
  42. # [00:20] <bz_away> grrr
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  53. # [00:25] <shu> njn: good to know
  54. # [00:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f09ec38cd808 - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 930481 - Disable test_dataChannel_basicAudioVideo.html on OS X for far too frequent timeouts taking out the entire suite
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  69. # [00:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/095e5b582f53 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 916143 - Try to fix test_movement_by_words.html on Win8 PGO with a waitForFocus
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  71. # [00:38] <jesup> philor: ping
  72. # [00:38] <philor> jesup: pong
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  74. # [00:39] <jesup> I'm looking at bug 930481. The comment I made in the bug was correct at the time (referencing the previous TBPL star - that one does appear to be a dup, that then caused follow-on problems in webrtc tests). However, the later tbpl reports (that generally started right about that time) do not appear to be dups of the other bug.
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  77. # [00:40] <philor> jesup: welcome to us, give us a test name and a vaguely similar symptom, we'll pile on with everything we've got :)
  78. # [00:40] <jesup> I started looking at them in detail earlier today. webrtc 3.43 landed that day, but I think the new reports started before that landed - I'm verifying. Some other changes to sipcc landed around the same time
  79. # [00:41] <philor> well, strike that, we don't actually insist on a similar symptom, just the same test name, even if it's not the same test
  80. # [00:41] <jesup> Looks like there was an existing dup causing spurious timeouts, then something caused frequent timeouts to start
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  82. # [00:41] <philor> mmm, xpcshell bustage on aurora
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  84. # [00:41] <jesup> 3.43 would be the #1 suspect if I can prove they started after it
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  86. # [00:42] <jesup> which would be unfortunate as that would mean "somewhere in this 4MB patch there's a low-frequency deadlock"
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  89. # [00:47] <jesup> Aha. The first for-sure instance of the deadlock/etc was 7 pushes *before* I landed 3.43! Phew! (not that I still don't have to track it down, but this makes it a lot easier)
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  96. # [00:50] <jesup> and I landed 4 hours after that
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  98. # [00:51] <jesup> This is bug 930481 comment 4 - the star after the one I marked as a dup of the DOM issue.
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  100. # [00:56] <@njn> shu, philor, glandium: I've attempted another OOM-based tree closure post-mortem, at https://etherpad.mozilla.org/LPgqYuvFJn
  101. # [00:56] <@njn> I feel much less happy about this one, mostly because I don't actually understand what led to the trees being reopened, and if we've actually fixed the problem or just papered over it
  102. # [00:56] <shu> hmm... how come offsetLength always returns 0 for this div, yet the inspector shows the actual value
  103. # [00:57] <shu> njn: afaict, we reopened without landing any fixes that we know to directly affect the closures
  104. # [00:57] <@njn> shu: what it smaug's "GC/CC more often" patch that made the tests pass more often?
  105. # [00:57] <mccr8> except the backout of shu's patch. ;)
  106. # [00:57] <mccr8> njn: after every test, we GC and CC, or something liek that
  107. # [00:57] <@njn> shu, mccr8: if you can add to the etherpad, that'd be great
  108. # [00:58] <mccr8> that fixed the M2 shutdown test, by clearing out the content stuff
  109. # [00:58] <mccr8> the M2 thing wasn't super frequent though. it was really bc that was ultra orange.
  110. # [00:58] <@njn> mccr8: put it in the etherpad, plz
  111. # [00:58] <@njn> :)
  112. # [00:58] <mccr8> I am
  113. # [00:59] <philor> "post-mortem: we mortemed shu"
  114. # [00:59] <shu> :(
  115. # [00:59] <@njn> what was shu's patch that was backed out?
  116. # [00:59] <philor> stop doing GC every time we switch debugging mode
  117. # [01:00] <mccr8> he basically unpapered over some problems. ;)
  118. # [01:00] <@njn> so we backed that out, and then papered over more with smaug's patch?
  119. # [01:00] <@njn> shu: what was the motivation for your patch?
  120. # [01:00] <@njn> shu: eh, I'll let you answer in the etherpad :)
  121. # [01:01] <mccr8> well, smaug's patch isn't really a papering over. the GC and CC don't deal with opening and closing pages very rapidly. so we make them run more.
  122. # [01:01] <mccr8> though smaug is going to back that out, and do a version that just runs extra GC/CC at shutdown
  123. # [01:01] <@njn> shu: is this toggle when we enter/leave the JS debugger?
  124. # [01:01] <mccr8> this is analagous to how AWSY waits 10 seconds on shutdown before measuring
  125. # [01:01] <@njn> mccr8: ok
  126. # [01:02] <mccr8> njn: it was making firebug extremely slow when you changed tabs or something. shu changed it so we just discarded jit code.
  127. # [01:02] <@njn> mccr8: the fact that more gc/cc helped is at odds with the idea that vmem fragmentation is the problem
  128. # [01:02] <shu> njn: mccr8's correct
  129. # [01:02] <@njn> shu: ok
  130. # [01:03] <mccr8> njn: gc/cc helped with M2, but not bc particularly, as far as I'm aware.
  131. # [01:03] <shu> njn: the current GC is a hack and a performance problem, and was put in originally to remove out-of-date jitcode, as debugMode changes assumptions
  132. # [01:03] <@njn> mccr8: ok
  133. # [01:04] <@njn> mccr8: so M2 doesn't look like actual leaks, just the test is kinda unrealistic so lots of garbage builds up?
  134. # [01:04] <shu> njn: this is particularly bad for firebug because firebug is compartment oblivious, and does the toggle for *every compartment*
  135. # [01:04] <shu> njn: but even for our builtin tools, that GC is a performance problem that we should remove
  136. # [01:04] <@njn> shu: fair enough
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  138. # [01:05] <@njn> shu: I wasn't meaning to question your motivation, just understand it :)
  139. # [01:05] <mccr8> njn: the M2 problem is only during shutdown, so when we go right from running a bunch of pages into shutdown, we end up cleaning up a bunch of pages, plus doing the stuff for shutdown, so the graph gets really big.
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  142. # [01:05] <@njn> mccr8: and that's the CC failure one?
  143. # [01:05] <philor> M2 is *mostly* during shutdown
  144. # [01:05] <mccr8> njn: the M2 CC failure one. there was another CC failure in bc, in the test immediately before the zip reader one
  145. # [01:06] <shu> njn: sorry, was pre-empting "could just leave the GC in" :)
  146. # [01:06] <shu> njn: on top of it this is all blocking my efforts of making the debugger jit-aware :(
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  148. # [01:06] <@njn> shu: firebug uses jsd, too :(
  149. # [01:07] <shu> njn: yeah, luckily the fixes aren't jsd specific
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  161. # [01:15] <mccr8> njn: BC was so much more orange than M2, that I spent most of my time looking at that, so it isn't as clear what is going on in M2, aside from one test suite which wrecks the virtual address space for some reason
  162. # [01:15] <mccr8> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=939369
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  172. # [01:23] <NeilAway> what are the rules about changing new strings? l10n doesn't really apply until uplift, or do localisers watch trunk too?
  173. # [01:24] <glandium> NeilAway: some locales do watch trunk
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  180. # [01:28] <briansmith> I am on the mozilla-aurora bustage. Needs a test-only fix uplifted
  181. # [01:28] <shu> mccr8: i have a patch for BC memory stats already, btw
  182. # [01:28] <mccr8> shu: ah cool
  183. # [01:29] <shu> mccr8: waiting on ted or someone who knows harnesses to review
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  185. # [01:29] <shu> njn: do you want ASan on the edge of OOM included in the post-mortem?
  186. # [01:29] <shu> njn: not strictly related
  187. # [01:30] <mccr8> I guess if that was the only problem the sheriffs might have just hidden ASAN instead of closing the tree.
  188. # [01:30] <@njn> shu: I don't know... if it's somewhat related, perhaps?
  189. # [01:30] <mccr8> I started putting some stuff about that in there but maybe it could be removed...
  190. # [01:30] <shu> mccr8: it didn't figure into this closure
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  192. # [01:30] <mccr8> ah ok
  193. # [01:30] <shu> mccr8: it's just another OOM problem
  194. # [01:30] <mccr8> yeah
  195. # [01:30] <shu> mccr8: wlel it's intermittent, but much more intermittent :)
  196. # [01:30] <mccr8> shu: I removed the ASAN stuff
  197. # [01:30] <shu> ok
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  199. # [01:31] <@njn> fair enough
  200. # [01:31] <@njn> shu: what will your visualizer do?
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  202. # [01:32] <shu> njn: something like http://rfrn.org/~shu/mvv/viewer.html
  203. # [01:32] <shu> njn: you paste in a TBPL full .txt.gz log, it gives you a timeline
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  206. # [01:32] <@njn> shu: nice
  207. # [01:33] <briansmith> https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/ca2aaf705a4d
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  257. # [02:29] <philor> weren't we going to rip out tabview and make it an extension
  258. # [02:29] <philor> an extension whose tests we wouldn't have to run?
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  266. # [02:33] <firebot> r=dholbert
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  278. # [02:42] <@njn> glandium: what does the "Number of Constructors" thingy measure, exactly? Is it static constructors?
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  280. # [02:42] <@njn> glandium: as in, "Regression: Mozilla-Inbound - Number of Constructors - CentOS release 5 (Final) - 3.17% increase"
  281. # [02:43] <glandium> njn: the number of static initializer functions generated by the compiler, which is closely related to the number of static constructors
  282. # [02:43] <@njn> glandium: could using Atomic<> in PLDHashTable cause an increase?
  283. # [02:44] <glandium> njn: depends if a) PLDHashTable doesn't already imply a static constructor b) Atomic<> needs a static constructor c) there's a PLDHashTable global instance
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  287. # [02:45] <@njn> glandium: (a) PLDHashTable lacks a constructor
  288. # [02:46] <@njn> (b) Atomic<> has a zero-arg ctor that does nothing
  289. # [02:46] <glandium> njn: are all its member variable types lacking a constructor
  290. # [02:46] <glandium> it==PLDHashTable
  291. # [02:46] <@njn> (c) we have several global PLDHashTable vars
  292. # [02:47] <glandium> njn: so b and c would put the balance on a yes
  293. # [02:47] <glandium> depends on a
  294. # [02:47] <@njn> glandium: wait, the zero-arg ctor does init a member
  295. # [02:47] <@njn> MOZ_CONSTEXPR AtomicBase() : mValue() {}
  296. # [02:49] <@njn> glandium: so I think I changed PLDHashTable from POD to non-POD
  297. # [02:49] <glandium> probably
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  299. # [02:50] <@njn> dammit
  300. # [02:50] <@njn> glandium: thanks
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  307. # [02:54] <glandium> njn: mmmmm that constructor has MOZ_CONSTEXPR
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  309. # [02:55] <glandium> MOZ_CONSTEXPR /should/ make the compiler avoid the static initializer
  310. # [02:56] <shu> njn: ping
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  312. # [02:56] <shu> philor: njn: http://people.mozilla.org/~sguo/mochimem/
  313. # [02:57] <shu> here's a link for a recent m-c M2 log http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-central-win32-debug/1384728816/mozilla-central_win7-ix-debug_test-mochitest-2-bm70-tests1-windows-build30.txt.gz
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  319. # [03:01] <philor> shu: at least http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-macosx64-debug/1384729240/mozilla-inbound_snowleopard-debug_test-mochitest-3-bm76-tests1-macosx-build1598.txt.gz is untroubled by all that jumping around
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  321. # [03:01] <philor> "start out using ALL THE MEMORY and just keep using it"
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  325. # [03:03] <glandium> shu: nice visualization
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  327. # [03:04] <shu> philor: that's just vsize, we don't dump resident size right now, waiting on a review for that patch
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  329. # [03:04] <shu> philor: every platform should support vsize, but not every supports heapAllocated (which is what we're dumping right now)
  330. # [03:04] <shu> philor: err, every platform should support vsize + resident
  331. # [03:04] <shu> glandium: thanks
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  333. # [03:05] <philor> shu: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-macosx64-debug/1384735777/mozilla-inbound_lion-debug_test-mochitest-4-bm79-tests1-macosx-build1672.txt.gz makes a cute graph :)
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  335. # [03:05] <shu> philor: hahaa what is going on there
  336. # [03:05] <shu> oh, asmjs
  337. # [03:05] <shu> so many tricks up its sleeve
  338. # [03:05] <philor> asmjs, meet memory, memory, meet... hey, memory, where did you go?
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  341. # [03:07] <shu> philor: anyways vsize won't tell us *too* much
  342. # [03:07] <shu> philor: like, ASan just have a constant 4096G or vsize or something ridiculous
  343. # [03:07] <shu> of vsize*
  344. # [03:08] <philor> yeah, it's specail
  345. # [03:08] <philor> and special
  346. # [03:10] <philor> jesup: so, when I disabled that test, I thought to myself, "am I just going to see https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30673329&tree=Mozilla-Inbound on the very next push?"
  347. # [03:10] <philor> and indeed, looks like I have my work cut out for me, copy-pasting skip-if = os == 'mac' into that whole mochitest.ini
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  389. # [03:38] <firebot> decoder. r=doublec
  390. # [03:39] <bjacob> has anyone used the mediawiki-bugzilla extension to display a bugzilla search inside a wiki page?
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  449. # [04:23] <@gavin> ashish: bugzilla down?
  450. # [04:23] <@gavin> I'm getting "Service Unavailable"
  451. # [04:23] <@dolske> wfm, but I've been getting random failuers all day.
  452. # [04:24] <@gavin> I saw someone mention that earlier too
  453. # [04:25] <@gavin> oh, it's some cached host issue or something
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  458. # [04:25] <@gavin> [17 10:25:11] <philor> the lesson here is to completely take off the time during any maintenance window
  459. # [04:25] <@gavin> [17 10:25:28] <philor> that way you avoid having your browser still think bugzilla is in phx
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  461. # [04:27] <philor> apparently shift+reload works for most people, though I refuse to think about how that could be
  462. # [04:27] <@gavin> works for me too
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  551. # [06:10] <@njn> philor: ever seen OpenGL crashes in test_nested_eventloop.html?
  552. # [06:11] <philor> njn: bug 886999, what branch are you seeing them on?
  553. # [06:12] <@njn> philor: IIRC, m-c a couple of days ago
  554. # [06:12] <@njn> philor: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=0a24baac0f31, the M1 mac 10.8 failures
  555. # [06:13] <@njn> philor: yeah, they look like that bug
  556. # [06:14] <philor> njn: they look like you regressing it; don't do that
  557. # [06:14] <@njn> philor: urk
  558. # [06:15] <philor> or more likely, uncovering the fact that it wasn't actually completely and correctly fixed
  559. # [06:16] <@njn> in which case, lucky me!
  560. # [06:18] <philor> we're lucky just to be able to work on Gecko
  561. # [06:19] <philor> that is absolutely, exactly and precisely where every bit of our luck ends
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  679. # [08:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d3a8f13aa66 - Landry Breuil - Bug 939504: Remove leftover <CanGC> template in !LITTLE_ENDIAN case after bug 928050 r=bhackett
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  733. # [09:33] <hsivonen> Where's the Thunderbird equivalent of http://telemetry.mozilla.org ?
  734. # [09:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/faef54ec06cd - Matt Woodrow - Bug 923341 - Part 1: Add a gfxSurfaceDrawable constructor for a DrawTarget. r=seth
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  736. # [09:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/79cfed9c9d1d - Matt Woodrow - Bug 923341 - Part 2: Use SVG caches on all azure backends. r=seth
  737. # [09:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99108bac6f2d - Matt Woodrow - Bug 923341 - Part 4: Update CachedSurface::Drawable. r=seth
  738. # [09:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/810c38bc0493 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 923341 - Part 3: Use azure for CreateSamplingRestrictedDrawable. r=seth
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  793. # [10:15] <Ms2ger> Or sicking, if you've got a lot of patience
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  937. # [12:00] <firebot> ideal. r=jaws
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  947. # [12:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/beddd6d4bcdf - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset e6a9c98d62d0 (bug 927196) for causing bug 939269
  948. # [12:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d84dca237e37 - Chris Double - Bug 874897 - Fix canvas copying of Ogg video frames with aspect ratio - r=jmuizelaar
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  950. # [12:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d78b5d79128 - Chris Double - Bug 874897 - Mochitest for copying of frames of videos with aspect ratio to canvas - r=kinetik
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  959. # [12:17] <jwatt> edmorley: fixing orange
  960. # [12:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67278f262497 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 939534 - Follow-up to the follow-up to address review comments to address orange that caused (mark tests fuzzy). r=me
  961. # [12:21] <edmorley> jwatt: ty
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  966. # [12:29] <Ms2ger> jwatt, that's what you get for addressing comments :)
  967. # [12:29] <jwatt> Ms2ger: apparently :/
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  973. # [12:34] <mjrosenb> c++ objects on the stack declared as Foo bar; will have the default constructor called, right?
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  975. # [12:34] <Ms2ger> I hope so
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  983. # [12:46] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: good. and yes, the bug is somewhere else.
  984. # [12:47] <tbsaunde> edmorley: Bas 155112 f2e964f10799 belongs to some bug other than 939049
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  993. # [12:51] <edmorley> tbsaunde: thank you - have found the bug, and commented in both :-)
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  1000. # [12:54] <tbsaunde> edmorley: np, thanks
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  1031. # [13:37] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jandem: checking
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  1033. # [13:37] <jandem> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hm nvm maybe, it took 8 minutes but now i have 2 SM builds at least…
  1034. # [13:37] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jandem: yeah
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  1038. # [13:38] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> so looks ok so far
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  1040. # [13:39] <jandem> Tomcat|sheriffduty: yup, sorry for the false alarm
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  1047. # [13:44] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jandem: np :)
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  1068. # [14:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5641d2ab4d52 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 938489 - 3/3. Remove configure check for glx.h - r=glandium
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  1071. # [14:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee5f421a77cd - Benoit Jacob - Bug 937886 - Build content/canvas/src in unified mode - r=ehsan
  1072. # [14:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8bbb6bcfcd50 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 938489 - 1/3. Don't include glx.h in GLXLibrary.h - r=mattwoodrow
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  1088. # [14:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa48287a7eca - Trevor Saunders - [PATCH 1/2] bug 938164 - implement AtkObject::get_object_locale
  1089. # [14:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/81f5a2afce6e - Trevor Saunders - [PATCH 2/2] revert bug 935567 because it unnecessarily breaks
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  1112. # [14:41] <Ms2ger> "PPS. OK, that was lame."
  1113. # [14:41] <Ms2ger> bjacob, it was :)
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  1115. # [14:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1efac30318e4 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 939656 - Fix the GfxInfoBase::OperatingSystemVersion overrides; r=bjacob
  1116. # [14:43] <bjacob> Ms2ger: :)
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  1122. # [14:44] <Ms2ger> froydnj, busting it?
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  1125. # [14:45] <froydnj> not any or much worse than usual
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  1127. # [14:48] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> froydnj: seems we have a lot failures like bug 915184
  1128. # [14:48] <froydnj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: all in the private browsing tests?
  1129. # [14:48] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> not perma orange but seems more failures in the last days
  1130. # [14:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> froydnj: yeah all in the same test - browser_save_private_link_perwindowpb.js
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  1132. # [14:49] <froydnj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: oh, you mean it's failing several different ways, only one of which is tracked in that bug?
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  1136. # [14:52] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> froydnj: oh was just meaning that this failures were a little more than in the past days
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  1138. # [14:52] <froydnj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ah, ok
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  1143. # [14:54] <decoder> ted: ping
  1144. # [14:55] <glob> gaston, an important step was missed during the weekend's datacenter stuff, resulting in both clusters being active at the same time (a config which isn't supported)
  1145. # [14:55] <glob> gaston, the database is being manually cleaned up
  1146. # [14:56] <gaston> thx for the details
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  1153. # [15:04] <clb> bbondy: around?
  1154. # [15:04] <bbondy> clb: yep
  1155. # [15:04] <clb> hey, whimboo pointed me to ping you
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  1157. # [15:05] <bbondy> cool, what's up?
  1158. # [15:05] <clb> let me just paste the few lines we chatted just a moment ago: http://pastebin.com/uN31NUe6
  1159. # [15:05] <clb> I'm trying to solve that problem
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  1163. # [15:06] <bbondy> so do you want command lines that will perform an update?
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  1165. # [15:07] <clb> I don't necessarily need a command line to update, but just to make sure that all the browsers in the system running the tests will autonomously update and I don't have to attend to them
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  1167. # [15:08] <clb> I have all the firefoxes set to "Automatically install updates" in the options menu, but that doesn't cause them to update, unless I go to Help->About Firefox menu
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  1170. # [15:09] <bbondy> do you use the browsers regularly or not?
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  1172. # [15:09] <bbondy> if you do they should update in the background as you use the browser
  1173. # [15:09] <bbondy> maybe you could just start the browser and leave it open for a while
  1174. # [15:09] <clb> they are launched several times every day
  1175. # [15:09] <bbondy> that would ensure they get picked up
  1176. # [15:10] <clb> and they're open for about 30 minutes to an hour at a time
  1177. # [15:10] <bbondy> that should be enough, although right after release we sometimes don't push down the updates right away
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  1179. # [15:10] <clb> also, on my laptop, the browser never updates itself, even though I use firefox for 10+ hours a day
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  1181. # [15:10] <clb> I always have to go to About Firefox menu to trigger the update download
  1182. # [15:10] <bbondy> they download pretty slow in the background, you can for example go here: C:\Users\bbondy\AppData\Local\Mozilla\updates and see if anything is being written
  1183. # [15:10] <gcp> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711854
  1184. # [15:10] <bbondy> it downloads, just really slow in the background
  1185. # [15:11] <gcp> I've observed similar behavior.
  1186. # [15:11] <bbondy> if the updte is being served
  1187. # [15:12] <clb> I'm thinking that is not true, since I've used firefox since 21 or something on this laptop, and I've never seen an autoupdate come in, even when the browser is open each day for months
  1188. # [15:12] <till> jwatt: ping
  1189. # [15:12] <bbondy> ok try tweaking this to a small number
  1190. # [15:12] <bbondy> app.update.download.backgroundInterval
  1191. # [15:12] <bbondy> by default it is 10 minute
  1192. # [15:12] <bbondy> minutes
  1193. # [15:13] <bbondy> for I think each DOWNLOAD_CHUNK_SIZE = 300000; // bytes
  1194. # [15:13] <clb> hmm default seems to be 60 on my system
  1195. # [15:13] <clb> what happens if I do 0?
  1196. # [15:13] <bbondy> not sure :)
  1197. # [15:13] <clb> ok, let's do 1
  1198. # [15:13] <bbondy> foreground updates use 0 though
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  1200. # [15:14] <bbondy> ya you're right I have 60 too
  1201. # [15:14] <bbondy> default for other apps if they don't explicitly override it is 600, default for firefox is 60
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  1203. # [15:15] <jaws> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ping
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  1206. # [15:16] <clb> also, related, do you know if there is a way to disable automatic download of update when I go to About Firefox?
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  1208. # [15:17] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jaws: pong
  1209. # [15:17] <RyanVM> landing time?
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  1211. # [15:18] <jaws> Tomcat|sheriffduty, RyanVM: we are planning on merging from ux to m-c today and would like to close m-c around the time that we start doing the merge
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  1213. # [15:18] <RyanVM> when is "today" ?
  1214. # [15:18] <jaws> how early before the merge takes place should we close m-c?
  1215. # [15:18] <RyanVM> as in, now would be a great time before the west coast wakes up
  1216. # [15:18] <jaws> RyanVM: i'm thinking 8am PST
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  1218. # [15:19] <jaws> RyanVM: or do you think 8am PST is too late for that? he
  1219. # [15:19] <RyanVM> ah, just in time for the Monday crush
  1220. # [15:19] <jaws> heh*
  1221. # [15:19] <RyanVM> especially with a long closure last week
  1222. # [15:19] <RyanVM> and everyone wanting to push their stuff
  1223. # [15:19] <RyanVM> jaws: I think it would be much better to get it merged ASAP before the west coast work day starts
  1224. # [15:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
  1225. # [15:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jaws: ok let me now and i will close m-c for you to merge
  1226. # [15:20] <RyanVM> jaws: do you have m-c tip merged to UX already?
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  1228. # [15:20] <jaws> RyanVM: no
  1229. # [15:20] <jaws> RyanVM: oh wait
  1230. # [15:20] <RyanVM> looks like Gijs did, actually
  1231. # [15:20] <jaws> i read that wrong
  1232. # [15:20] <jaws> sorry, i thought you meant the other direction
  1233. # [15:20] <RyanVM> so you've got some pending builds/tests on UX still
  1234. # [15:20] <jaws> yeah
  1235. # [15:21] <jaws> would be good to wait for those to finish first
  1236. # [15:21] <jaws> Tomcat|sheriffduty: we should also close fx-team too
  1237. # [15:21] <RyanVM> and inbound
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  1239. # [15:22] <Gijs> Unfortunately it's going to be 8am PST before the first debug bc tests finish
  1240. # [15:22] <bbondy> clb: I think if you set the pref to never update, but that turns it off in general too
  1241. # [15:22] <RyanVM> ugh, is UX at the same priority level for jobs as the project branches?
  1242. # [15:22] <RyanVM> i.e. dead last?
  1243. # [15:22] <Gijs> I don't know.
  1244. # [15:22] <jaws> idk
  1245. # [15:23] * RyanVM wouldn't expect ot see many pending jobs this time of day
  1246. # [15:23] <Gijs> I mean, no use crying over spilt milk
  1247. # [15:23] <Gijs> it's too late to fix that now
  1248. # [15:23] <Gijs> the dbg jobs are running on Linux and OS X, and builds are running on Windows
  1249. # [15:24] <Gijs> Oh look, dbg on win8 is already running too.
  1250. # [15:24] <Gijs> Linux opt is soon, everything else is MIA. :(
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  1252. # [15:25] <Gijs> RyanVM: so if we're not going to get green tests before then, should we try to do this by 7.30/8, or should we wait until after morning rush? Unfortunately quite some of us are in Europe, and jaws is east coast, so earlier is better for us.
  1253. # [15:25] <RyanVM> Gijs: it has to be today I assume?
  1254. # [15:25] <Gijs> We don't expect those tests to suddenly go orange, but obviously merging before green runs could be a little optimistic.
  1255. # [15:25] <RyanVM> sure
  1256. # [15:25] <Gijs> We have been planning on today, yes
  1257. # [15:25] <jaws> RyanVM: yeah today
  1258. # [15:26] <RyanVM> OOC, how often have you seen mochitest failures from a m-c merge?
  1259. # [15:26] <jaws> Gijs: did you have to resolve any merge conflicts?
  1260. # [15:27] <Gijs> RyanVM: relatively rarely. Jetpack has been more often problematic, tbh
  1261. # [15:27] <Gijs> jaws: let me check
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  1264. # [15:27] <RyanVM> yeah, I guess my question is what testsuites are most likely to break by the changes on UX?
  1265. # [15:27] <Gijs> jaws: ironically, only the nullcheck stuff in the migration code which obviously isn't on Australis :P
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  1267. # [15:28] <jaws> heh
  1268. # [15:28] <jaws> yeah i saw you got that checked in earlier today
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  1270. # [15:29] <RyanVM> let's see where we're at in 30min or so?
  1271. # [15:29] <jaws> RyanVM: sounds good
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  1276. # [15:31] <Gijs> RyanVM: so in the last 3 months, we had a problem with bc once, which was the beginning of september, and problems with jetpack 3 times. Nothing else, really - oth and 1-5 and crash/ref/jsref have been painless so far (knock on wood)
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  1281. # [15:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5775fb538d2b - Jonathan Watt - Bug 939604 - Add support for more types to mozilla::gfx::Log. r=Bas
  1282. # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2f35104ab0b - Jonathan Watt - Bug 889736, part 1 - Remove nsSVGTextFrame and nsSVGGlyphFrame. r=heycam
  1283. # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d80e27b74a84 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 889736, part 3 - Remove nsSVGTSpanFrame. r=heycam
  1284. # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14de5edb2078 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 889736, part 4 - Remove nsSVGTextContainerFrame. r=heycam
  1285. # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31c689d4df9c - Jonathan Watt - Bug 937581 - Remove imgStatusTrackerNotifyingObserver. r=seth
  1286. # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b01b36f72059 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 889736, part 2 - Remove nsSVGTextPathFrame. r=heycam
  1287. # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c179a6e6ed92 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 889736, part 5 - Remove nsISVGGlyphFragmentNode and nsISVGGlyphFragmentLeaf. r=heycam
  1288. # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb1d989a33a9 - Jonathan Watt - No bug - Add missing include guard to nsSVGInnerSVGFrame.h (apperently it's never had one!).
  1289. # [15:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef5d7b35634b - Jonathan Watt - Bug 889736, part 6 - Stop setting the svg.text.css-frames.enabled pref. r=heycam
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  1293. # [15:39] <RyanVM> Gijs: good info, thanks
  1294. # [15:39] <RyanVM> Gijs: It would be good for mike's prior push to be green too
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  1296. # [15:39] <Gijs> RyanVM: :)
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  1299. # [15:41] <RyanVM> Gijs: the Win opt mbc runs will be done in 30-35min
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  1303. # [15:43] <Gijs> RyanVM: yeah, I just noticed that, that and Linux will be good to have (although I'd rather have had win+mac, but w/e)
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  1307. # [15:44] <jwatt> till: pong
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  1310. # [15:45] <till> jwatt: I just realized that maybe I should tell someone about visiting the London office, and needing a desk. Whom do I talk to about that?
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  1314. # [15:46] <till> jwatt: yep, did that already
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  1353. # [16:13] <RyanVM> Gijs: looks like we'll get some OSX opt m-bc results in 15-20min
  1354. # [16:13] <RyanVM> that gets us to 7:30am PST
  1355. # [16:14] <RyanVM> I say if they're green, let's go for it
  1356. # [16:14] <Gijs> jaws: ^^^
  1357. # [16:14] <jaws> Gijs: thanks for the ping
  1358. # [16:14] <Gijs> jaws: you're taking point on this, AIUI, right?
  1359. # [16:14] <jaws> RyanVM: ok sounds good
  1360. # [16:14] <jaws> i did a test merge locally and it was realy smooth
  1361. # [16:15] <jaws> doing another one now just to double check
  1362. # [16:15] <Gijs> jaws: that's what I like hearing.
  1363. # [16:15] <RyanVM> jaws: should be since UX is already merged with m-c tip :)
  1364. # [16:15] <jaws> yep
  1365. # [16:15] <RyanVM> did you test with inbound/fx-team ?
  1366. # [16:15] <jaws> yeah, and if it wasn't i'd go crazy
  1367. # [16:15] <jaws> but good to test
  1368. # [16:15] <jaws> RyanVM: nope, just m-c
  1369. # [16:15] <Gijs> that's actually a good idea, tbh.
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  1371. # [16:15] <RyanVM> Gijs: those are the ones I'd be concerned with
  1372. # [16:15] <jaws> yeah it is a good idea
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  1374. # [16:15] <jaws> but we can merge those in after the ux-mc merge
  1375. # [16:15] <Gijs> Hrm.
  1376. # [16:16] <jaws> and deal with conflicts at that time
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  1378. # [16:16] <Gijs> I'm wondering if we should immediately merge through to fx-team and m-i
  1379. # [16:16] <jaws> Gijs: what do you mean by "merge through"
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  1381. # [16:16] <Gijs> merge m-c to fx-team/m-i/b2g-i right after merging ux to mc
  1382. # [16:17] <Gijs> if not, maybe we should keep the integration trees closed while waiting for m-c to go green on the merge push?
  1383. # [16:17] <Gijs> Or do we think it'll all be painless and we should just let people land on fx-team/m-i while we're baking on m-c?
  1384. # [16:17] <jaws> Gijs: i don't see a huge problem with asking people to wait the couple hours for the builds to go green
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  1386. # [16:18] <Gijs> RyanVM: ^^ ?
  1387. # [16:18] <RyanVM> we want this merged around ASAP
  1388. # [16:18] <Ms2ger> Heh
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  1390. # [16:18] <RyanVM> we already know it's green on UX tip
  1391. # [16:18] <jaws> true
  1392. # [16:18] <RyanVM> which will be equivalent to m-c tip
  1393. # [16:18] <jaws> yeah
  1394. # [16:18] <Gijs> RyanVM: Right, that's fair enough.
  1395. # [16:18] <RyanVM> so there's nothing to be gained by waiting
  1396. # [16:18] <RyanVM> except more conficts
  1397. # [16:18] <Gijs> jaws: do you have uptodate fx-team, m-i and b2g-i trees?
  1398. # [16:19] <Gijs> (or at least somewhat uptodate)
  1399. # [16:19] <jaws> Gijs: only fx-team
  1400. # [16:19] <Gijs> jaws: I can also help merge through to branches if you like.
  1401. # [16:19] <jaws> oh i also have m-i
  1402. # [16:19] <jaws> but not b2g-i
  1403. # [16:19] <Gijs> I have b2g-i lying around
  1404. # [16:19] <jaws> Gijs: cool, we should join up in #firefox
  1405. # [16:19] <RyanVM> i can merge it around if you want
  1406. # [16:19] <RyanVM> once it's on m-c
  1407. # [16:19] <Gijs> er, fx-team? :)
  1408. # [16:19] <jaws> i'm gonna grab something to eat since i'm getting quite hungry, be back in 2mins
  1409. # [16:19] <Gijs> sure
  1410. # [16:19] <RyanVM> so long as you're aroudn to help with any possible conflicts
  1411. # [16:20] <glazou> afp.voila.fr
  1412. # [16:20] <glazou> urgh sorry wrong window
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  1415. # [16:22] <philor> oops, misstarred ehsan's bustage
  1416. # [16:22] <RyanVM> jaws: Gijs: tell me that OSX bc orange on UX isn't a problem
  1417. # [16:22] <jaws> RyanVM: doesn't show orange for me yet
  1418. # [16:23] <RyanVM> Gijs: jaws: because that sure looks related
  1419. # [16:23] <RyanVM> on mike's push
  1420. # [16:23] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30701649&tree=UX
  1421. # [16:23] * Gijs pokes tbpl
  1422. # [16:23] <jaws> oh, mike's push
  1423. # [16:23] <jaws> yeah...
  1424. # [16:23] * Gijs suspects new randomorange
  1425. # [16:24] <RyanVM> so...backout from UX before merging to m-c?
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  1427. # [16:24] <Gijs> the test in question is mine, and I am aware it's not a great test
  1428. # [16:24] * RyanVM isn't interested in bringing new oranges over
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  1430. # [16:24] <Gijs> I think it's unlikely the new orange is really the fault of mike's push.
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  1432. # [16:25] <Gijs> I'd rather disable the test.
  1433. # [16:25] <RyanVM> Gijs: WFM
  1434. # [16:25] <RyanVM> better you make that call than me ;)
  1435. # [16:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5f19ed28c75f - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 134f2dc02468 (bug 939659) for assertions
  1436. # [16:25] <jesup> ted: ping
  1437. # [16:25] <RyanVM> Gijs: we usually recommend a "fix and re-enable" bug when doing so
  1438. # [16:26] <Gijs> We have one already
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  1441. # [16:26] <RyanVM> even better :P
  1442. # [16:26] <philor> but at least I'm not alone, since ehsan did too
  1443. # [16:26] <Gijs> RyanVM: it's not gone orange before, but I wrote this test knowing full well it wasn't brilliant... but it's a hard feature to write a better test for. :(
  1444. # [16:27] <Gijs> (resizing window should async trigger items to be added/removed from the navbar, essentially)
  1445. # [16:27] <@ehsan> ?
  1446. # [16:27] <Gijs> (and obviously sizes of things in the navbar are different on different platform and omg kill me now)
  1447. # [16:27] <philor> ehsan: misstarred those assertions you caused with the unified spellchecker
  1448. # [16:27] <philor> both of us
  1449. # [16:27] <@ehsan> oh those are my fault?
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  1452. # [16:28] <philor> yeah, backed out, they're spellchecker assertions
  1453. # [16:28] <Ms2ger> ehsan, everything in your fault :)
  1454. # [16:28] <Ms2ger> Is, even
  1455. # [16:28] <@ehsan> philor: ok, thanks
  1456. # [16:28] <@ehsan> and sorry
  1457. # [16:29] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: not everything, but most things are, it's true
  1458. # [16:29] <RyanVM> ehsan: this is what happens when we reopen the tree :(
  1459. # [16:29] <@ehsan> RyanVM: mistakes? :)
  1460. # [16:30] <RyanVM> :P
  1461. # [16:30] <@ehsan> they will happen if you keep the tree closed too
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  1463. # [16:30] <jaws> no, things getting checked in :P
  1464. # [16:31] <RyanVM> ehsan: can't bust the tree if you can't push to it! :D
  1465. # [16:31] <@ehsan> well the trees being closed didn't prevent people from landing stuff ;)
  1466. # [16:31] <@ehsan> RyanVM: CLOSED TREE ftw
  1467. # [16:31] <RyanVM> ehsan: we need a CLOSED FRLZ status
  1468. # [16:32] <RyanVM> Gijs: are you going to push the test disabling to UX?
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  1471. # [16:32] <Gijs> RyanVM: I will as soon as I see 10.6/10.7 m-bc be green on that push - if it's gone orange everywhere I'm backing mike out.
  1472. # [16:32] <RyanVM> gotcha
  1473. # [16:32] <Gijs> (on debug, I mean)
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  1476. # [16:33] <jaws> Gijs: i also retriggered that bc run, but it will take too long to wait unfortunately
  1477. # [16:33] <Gijs> well, right
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  1479. # [16:33] * jaws is waiting for bc to be split in to three hunks
  1480. # [16:34] <philor> huh, an UNCO randomorange bug, I don't think I've ever seen one before
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  1482. # [16:34] <philor> couldn't figure out what italics in the suggestions meant
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  1486. # [16:34] <RyanVM> heh, interesting
  1487. # [16:35] <@ehsan> hmm, the assertion doesn't happen locally
  1488. # [16:35] <philor> doesn't seem to happen !Mac
  1489. # [16:36] <Gijs> 10.6 is green
  1490. # [16:36] <@ehsan> I'm on mac...
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  1493. # [16:37] <RyanVM> jaws: Gijs: I think pending the disabling/backout for the new orange, we're good to go otherwise
  1494. # [16:38] <jaws> sounds good
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  1497. # [16:39] * RyanVM closes the integration branches
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  1499. # [16:40] <Gijs> jaws: pushed a cset to disable that test.
  1500. # [16:41] <RyanVM> jaws: Gijs: did you want me to merge m-c to the integration branches?
  1501. # [16:41] <jaws> RyanVM, Gijs: how should i go about testing that the fx-team, m-i merges are fine?
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  1503. # [16:41] <RyanVM> jaws: we'll play it by ear
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  1505. # [16:41] <Gijs> jaws: RyanVM: so should we just close m-c now, too, and merge? :)
  1506. # [16:41] <jaws> 10:11 AM <RyanVM> did you test with inbound/fx-team ?
  1507. # [16:42] <jaws> let's all join Firefox room on vidyo
  1508. # [16:42] <Gijs> k
  1509. # [16:42] <RyanVM> vidyo's hanging
  1510. # [16:42] <RyanVM> go figure
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  1512. # [16:43] <froydnj> vidyo hates the australis merge too
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  1515. # [16:44] <BenWa> ehsan: are we tracking the total time won with unified sources?
  1516. # [16:44] <@ehsan> BenWa: no
  1517. # [16:45] <@ehsan> (I'm not)
  1518. # [16:45] <BenWa> you should :)
  1519. # [16:45] <@ehsan> I don't have the right tools :)
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  1527. # [16:48] <@ehsan> BenWa: if you know of an easy way to set up something on a box which publishes build times based on date somewhere that we can graph it etc let me know
  1528. # [16:48] <BenWa> ehsan: I wonder if it would be accurate to get them from the TBPL task
  1529. # [16:48] * coop|buildduty is now known as coop
  1530. # [16:48] <@ehsan> BenWa: TBPL does way more than just builds
  1531. # [16:49] <BenWa> ehsan: they timestamp all their subtasks
  1532. # [16:49] <@ehsan> it spends hours deleting things, recloning things, running tests on the build etc
  1533. # [16:49] <BenWa> let me check
  1534. # [16:49] <BenWa> we'd have to parse the log of course
  1535. # [16:49] <@ehsan> I have looked at the build faster dashboards before
  1536. # [16:49] <@ehsan> the data there is pretty much useless
  1537. # [16:49] <@ehsan> it's too noisy and doesn't reflect the actual build times
  1538. # [16:50] <BenWa> Finished compile (results: 0, elapsed: 41 mins, 45 secs) that looks accurate for a fat build
  1539. # [16:51] <BenWa> it does make package which is useful to measure for android/b2g
  1540. # [16:51] <@ehsan> interesting
  1541. # [16:51] <@ehsan> perhaps we already have these numbers up somewhere?
  1542. # [16:51] <@ehsan> who knows about build faster dashboards?
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  1544. # [16:52] <BenWa> gps: Are you tracking build time changes? I'm wondering if we will see the results of unifying sources
  1545. # [16:52] <Ms2ger> Don't we have buildfaster graphs?
  1546. # [16:52] <BenWa> I imagine we will be fighting against the growth
  1547. # [16:52] <BenWa> Ms2ger: Link?
  1548. # [16:52] <RyanVM> buildfaster?
  1549. # [16:53] <Ms2ger> No, that wasn't what it was alled
  1550. # [16:53] <Ms2ger> called
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  1552. # [16:53] <RyanVM> no, I'm saying we already have that
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  1554. # [16:53] <@ehsan> http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/gofaster/#/executiontime/build
  1555. # [16:53] <@ehsan> this data is useless like I said above
  1556. # [16:53] <RyanVM> ah
  1557. # [16:54] <BenWa> ahh
  1558. # [16:54] <Ms2ger> ahhh
  1559. # [16:54] <froydnj> a(h^n)
  1560. # [16:54] <@ehsan> the reason: http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/gofaster/#/overhead/build :)_
  1561. # [16:54] <@ehsan> (holy hell!!!)
  1562. # [16:55] <@ehsan> also the fact that you can't know which build each line is representing is not helpful
  1563. # [16:55] <glob> ..hours ?
  1564. # [16:55] <@ehsan> I know!
  1565. # [16:55] <BenWa> This is measuring the build job I bet and not the build times
  1566. # [16:55] <@ehsan> it's measuring the setup and teardown times too
  1567. # [16:55] <BenWa> which includes 'make check'
  1568. # [16:55] <froydnj> also that you have 20 lines that are poorly distinguished and no way to filter :(
  1569. # [16:55] <BenWa> right
  1570. # [16:55] <@ehsan> so in theory a substraction is all we need
  1571. # [16:55] <Ms2ger> Are these hours the counting the gaia builds?
  1572. # [16:55] <BenWa> froydnj: you can filter by clicking on them
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  1576. # [16:57] <RyanVM> jaws: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Committing_Rules_and_Responsibilities#Commit_message_restrictions
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  1579. # [16:57] <Ms2ger> Oh dear, what'd jaws do?
  1580. # [16:57] <froydnj> BenWa: huh
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  1582. # [16:58] <BenWa> froydnj: you can toggle an platform by clicking on it in the legend
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  1586. # [17:00] <@ehsan> BenWa: what would be more useful is clicking on the graph and seeing which item the line corresponds to!
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  1589. # [17:00] <BenWa> agreed
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  1591. # [17:01] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ehsan, BenWa: I'd absolutely love patches to buildfaster, if you had any time... :-)
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  1593. # [17:01] <edmorley|sheriffduty> gofaster even
  1594. # [17:01] <edmorley|sheriffduty> https://github.com/mozilla/gofaster/
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  1597. # [17:01] <@ehsan> edmorley|sheriffduty: I'm talking about it because I don't have enough time to do this myself :)
  1598. # [17:01] <@ehsan> edmorley|sheriffduty: that project is dead now, is it not?
  1599. # [17:01] <edmorley|sheriffduty> :-)
  1600. # [17:02] <@ehsan> I guess it was never that alive ;)
  1601. # [17:02] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ehsan: it hasn't received much tlc of late
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  1603. # [17:02] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ehsan: if we come up with something superior to replace it, then great - I'd just like to avoid the usual mozilla "three teams working on the same thing without realsing it" syndrome :-)
  1604. # [17:03] <@ehsan> edmorley|sheriffduty: I'm not part of any such team :)
  1605. # [17:03] <@ehsan> just a mere individual
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  1608. # [17:03] <jaws> Ms2ger: needed to use the IGNORE BAD COMMIT MESSAGES override
  1609. # [17:03] <edmorley|sheriffduty> s/team/whatever/ :-)
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  1611. # [17:03] <Ms2ger> Bad, bad
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  1614. # [17:04] <@ehsan> :q
  1615. # [17:04] <@ehsan> oops
  1616. # [17:04] <jimm> is that Australis I see on mc? :)
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  1618. # [17:04] <ttaubert> yup
  1619. # [17:04] <Ms2ger> omg i use chrome now
  1620. # [17:04] <jimm> sweet, congrats ux/fx teams
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  1622. # [17:05] <jimm> long time in coming
  1623. # [17:05] <gaston> cant wait to see the build breakage on npotb platforms \o/
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  1625. # [17:05] <ttaubert> Ms2ger: yes, you can send patches to their bug tracker now as well
  1626. # [17:05] <froydnj> chrome has no bugs
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  1630. # [17:06] <ttaubert> ah, my bad
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  1633. # [17:06] <jaws> jimm: thanks!
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  1635. # [17:07] <jaws> gaston: there better not be! it's almost all frontend changes
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  1638. # [17:07] <gaston> australis already works for me on tb anyway :)
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  1640. # [17:08] <ttaubert> but I can't move tabs around there
  1641. # [17:08] <Ms2ger> jaws, how much money do you want to put on that? :)
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  1643. # [17:09] <jaws> Ms2ger: my 02 cents
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  1665. # [17:21] <decoder> smaug: ping
  1666. # [17:21] <@smaug> decoder: pong
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  1668. # [17:22] <decoder> smaug: regarding your race question
  1669. # [17:22] <decoder> Thread 14 is accessing nsEventListenerManager::sMainThreadCreatedCount
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  1671. # [17:22] <decoder> ignoring the !NS_IsMainThread check
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  1673. # [17:22] <decoder> there's nothing for tsan to understand or not understand, the thread is reading the memory
  1674. # [17:22] <decoder> could be a compiler optimization
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  1676. # [17:23] <decoder> i think we've had the situation before that the compiler reordered stuff around !NS_IsMainThread
  1677. # [17:23] <@smaug> decoder: sounds like a compiler bug then
  1678. # [17:24] <@smaug> decoder: since you have TSan running, could you try the thing I suggested ?
  1679. # [17:24] <decoder> smaug: can you show me a patch for what you mean?
  1680. # [17:24] <decoder> then i can try it
  1681. # [17:24] <froydnj> it's not wrong for the compiler to reorder stuff like that if you're not providing barriers for it
  1682. # [17:25] <jcranmer> this is why C++11 added std::atomic
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  1684. # [17:25] <decoder> does NS_IsMainThread use any form of atomics/barriers?
  1685. # [17:25] <decoder> if not, can we make that happen?
  1686. # [17:25] <froydnj> no
  1687. # [17:25] <jcranmer> of course, NSPR seems to be a giant thread race waiting to happen
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  1689. # [17:26] <froydnj> it doesn't need to use atomics/barriers
  1690. # [17:26] <jcranmer> since "current thread id" is racily accessed all over the place
  1691. # [17:26] <@smaug> decoder: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3629345 perhaps
  1692. # [17:26] <jcranmer> with the assumption that it's always accessed atomically (ha!)
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  1694. # [17:26] <decoder> froydnj: because it will still produce the right result? or whats the reason?
  1695. # [17:27] <@smaug> decoder: didn't compile that
  1696. # [17:27] <decoder> smaug: testing :)
  1697. # [17:27] <tbsaunde> decoder: because it uses tls
  1698. # [17:27] <decoder> tbsaunde: and that means?
  1699. # [17:27] <jcranmer> thread-local storage
  1700. # [17:27] <froydnj> decoder: that there's no shared state to barrier on
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  1702. # [17:28] <decoder> is there any sane way then to prevent racy access due to reordering?
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  1704. # [17:28] <tbsaunde> now maybe NS_IsMainThread should barier just because that's what people expect, but I'm not really sure that's a great idea
  1705. # [17:28] <jcranmer> froydnj: it doesn't prevent races, though
  1706. # [17:28] <froydnj> jcranmer: indeed
  1707. # [17:29] <@smaug> froydnj: so compiler can reorder initialization of member variables even if latter variables rely on the earlier variables ?
  1708. # [17:29] <decoder> i cannot judge if there is a real issue with NS_IsMainThread not having a barrier
  1709. # [17:29] <decoder> but if there is no issue
  1710. # [17:29] <jcranmer> if (NS_IsMainThread()) { access Mainread-only state} -> compiler can reorder memory above main thread
  1711. # [17:29] <decoder> can we still make it barrier with MOZ_TSAN onky?
  1712. # [17:29] <decoder> *only
  1713. # [17:29] <decoder> that would prevent these reports
  1714. # [17:29] <froydnj> smaug: ^
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  1716. # [17:30] <froydnj> smaug: and the compiler could do that too, if it chose and there weren't any problematic data dependencies
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  1718. # [17:31] <@smaug> froydnj: how can you initialize the latter variable before first one if it relies on the first one ?
  1719. # [17:31] <BenWa> which tree is branch mozilla-b2g26_v1_2? beta?
  1720. # [17:32] <catlee> kind of
  1721. # [17:32] <RyanVM> BenWa: it's its own tree
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  1723. # [17:32] <froydnj> smaug: use whatever the first one was initialized with (might be passed in a register and save a memory read)
  1724. # [17:32] <BenWa> ohh ok
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  1726. # [17:32] <RyanVM> BenWa: it branched off when 26 went to beta
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  1728. # [17:33] <BenWa> found it, ty
  1729. # [17:33] <@smaug> froydnj: right. So in this case the first one is initialize with NS_IsMainThread()
  1730. # [17:33] <froydnj> smaug: and then reorder the stores to the members
  1731. # [17:33] <@smaug> initialized
  1732. # [17:33] <decoder> froydnj: jcranmer: tbsaunde: so, is there any real issue with NS_IsMainThread using tls and not having a barrier? If there is no real issue, can we fix it for tsan-only?
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  1735. # [17:34] <froydnj> smaug: yes
  1736. # [17:34] <Pike> should we kick off a nightly for the australis landing?
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  1741. # [17:36] <@smaug> Pike: curious, why ?
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  1748. # [17:38] <tbsaunde> decoder: well, putting a barier in NS_ISMainThread could hurt perf and if you do it for tsan only you might miss real issues
  1749. # [17:39] <Pike> to tell australis regressions from all the other stuff that's gonna pile on the tree now that it's open, was my take
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  1751. # [17:40] <RyanVM> Pike: we were going to, yes
  1752. # [17:40] <zzzzz> I agree with Pike, Nightly's need to be kicked off to get it into the hands of Nightly testers sooner
  1753. # [17:40] <decoder> tbsaunde: how would we miss real issues by putting a barrier in NS_IsMainThread? Wouldnt that suggest we have real issues due to that function not having a barrier?
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  1755. # [17:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd55575b3350 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 938431: Make MPostWriteBarriers a safe Float32 instruction; r=jonco
  1756. # [17:41] <tbsaunde> decoder: if you add it in release builds sure then you'd fix the issues, but its not clear that's the right place to do it
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  1758. # [17:42] <decoder> tbsaunde: im open for any suggestions :) be it fixing the issues themselves (if they are issues) or NS_IsMainThread. but doing nothing renders the tool useless and that I want to prevent
  1759. # [17:43] <tbsaunde> I'm not really sure what the right solution is :/
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  1761. # [17:43] <gps> BenWa: I'm not tracking it anywhere. better measurement of build perf on automation didn't make the Q4 cut
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  1766. # [17:46] <RyanVM> eww large icons
  1767. # [17:46] <decoder> froydnj: btw, im using tsan with clang :) just fyi
  1768. # [17:47] <decoder> (there is also tsan for gcc)
  1769. # [17:47] <decoder> maybe clang does a similar thing to what you described
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  1771. # [17:47] <froydnj> decoder: I wouldn't be surprised
  1772. # [17:48] <RyanVM> jaws: so small icons are dead? :(
  1773. # [17:48] <zzzzz> yeah, they said months ago that small-icons were going away
  1774. # [17:49] <froydnj> decoder: anyway, that's the crux of what the compiler is doing, and since the source code isn't telling it anything different...
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  1776. # [17:49] <@bsmedberg> decoder: what bug is the NS_IsMainThread bug?
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  1779. # [17:50] <Gijs> RyanVM: yeah.
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  1781. # [17:50] <jaws> RyanVM: yes, gone with the wind
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  1784. # [17:50] <RyanVM> :(
  1785. # [17:50] <Gijs> RyanVM: the difference was very very very marginal on OS X and Linux
  1786. # [17:50] <RyanVM> Windows here
  1787. # [17:50] <Gijs> err
  1788. # [17:50] <Gijs> Windows
  1789. # [17:50] <Gijs> Really?
  1790. # [17:51] <RyanVM> just seems like some wasted vertical space
  1791. # [17:51] <zzzzz> +1
  1792. # [17:51] <edmorley|mtg> Gijs: yeah that OS that 90% of our desktop userbase uses... ;-)
  1793. # [17:51] <@bsmedberg> Gijs: you have a thing against windows?
  1794. # [17:51] <jaws> RyanVM: well, it's like 3 pixel difference, and never was done the right way. would be better to actually do a small icons mode the right way if we actually want it
  1795. # [17:51] * @bsmedberg uses windows as his primary box
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  1797. # [17:51] <Gijs> edmorley|mtg: bsmedberg no, I misspoke.
  1798. # [17:52] <RyanVM> seems like theres ~10px above and below the nav bar
  1799. # [17:52] <Gijs> edmorley|mtg: bsmedberg: the difference was marginal on OS X and Windows
  1800. # [17:52] <jaws> until then, it's a maintenance issue and makes doing front-end work (developing/testing) much harder
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  1803. # [17:52] <@bsmedberg> are we going to spin a new nightly for Australis, to get a head start on OMGChange?
  1804. # [17:52] <jaws> RyanVM: oh yeah, australis did make the navbar taller on purpose too, (40px)
  1805. # [17:52] <RyanVM> yes
  1806. # [17:52] <edmorley|sheriffduty> bsmedberg: yup
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  1808. # [17:53] <RyanVM> jaws: yeah, I think that's more the issue than the icon size
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  1810. # [17:53] <jaws> RyanVM: bug 873626
  1811. # [17:53] <RyanVM> i do like the new tabs personally
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  1813. # [17:54] <@bsmedberg> jaws: can I get review on the infobar telemetry patch https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=832213&action=edit so I can request uplift for the set?
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  1819. # [17:56] <RyanVM> jaws: dunno, I guess I just don't see why it was necessary other than "because the mockup said so"
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  1821. # [17:56] <RyanVM> whatever, that's what userchrome.css is for :)
  1822. # [17:56] <jaws> bsmedberg: yeah
  1823. # [17:56] <@bsmedberg> ty
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  1825. # [17:56] <jaws> RyanVM: we want to give more space to the icons so they feel less cramped
  1826. # [17:57] <jaws> bsmedberg: obv i've been busy with austarlis. but i didn't forget
  1827. # [17:57] <@bsmedberg> jaws: yeah, I figured
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  1829. # [17:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/550a02fca7b3 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 937466 - Introduce Constants module. r=yzen
  1830. # [17:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/298618421b51 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 937369 - Use moz.build in accessibility/src/jsat. r=davidb
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  1832. # [17:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3fd86b311a5a - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 937775 - Make AccessFu logging less verbose by default. r=yzen
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  1835. # [17:58] <nemo> 821.86 MB (100.0%) -- explicit
  1836. # [17:58] <nemo> ├──307.56 MB (37.42%) ── heap-unclassified
  1837. # [17:58] <nemo> heh
  1838. # [17:58] <nemo> well. that's... not at all informative :)
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  1840. # [17:59] <froydnj> nemo: what platform is that?
  1841. # [17:59] <nemo> froydnj: linux
  1842. # [17:59] <nemo> nightly
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  1845. # [18:00] <nemo> was curious why firefox was taking
  1846. # [18:00] <nemo> 880.71 MB ── resident
  1847. # [18:00] <RyanVM> hmm, that didn't work
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  1852. # [18:01] <edmorley|sheriffduty> jaws: it's a bit unfortunate about needing the "IGNORE BAD COMMIT MESSAGES" - we should set the commit message hook on UX too
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  1856. # [18:02] <jaws> edmorley|sheriffduty: yeah
  1857. # [18:02] <froydnj> nemo: what have you been doing in that session?
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  1859. # [18:02] <sheppy> Gonna have to make some time to work on some code once australis hits nightly… I have some things I want to tweak. :)
  1860. # [18:02] <nemo> froydnj: hrm. let's see
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  1863. # [18:02] <nemo> froydnj: I'd just opened an album on google images
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  1865. # [18:02] <nemo> froydnj: I'd visited ycombinator... and that's about all so far today.
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  1868. # [18:02] <nemo> froydnj: has been idle since Friday
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  1873. # [18:03] <RyanVM> jaws: so what am I missing here? I put this in my userChrome.css but it doesn't appear to have done anything - https://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/3629477
  1874. # [18:03] <froydnj> nemo: hm. so nightly from several days ago?
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  1876. # [18:03] <nemo> froydnj: there's a fair amount used by pdf.js - 76MiB in a worker, and 61MiB rendering a PDF
  1877. # [18:03] <nemo> froydnj: yeah.
  1878. # [18:03] <nemo> froydnj: gonna start closing some tabs and see what happens
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  1880. # [18:04] <Gijs> froydnj: congrats on your peerage! :)
  1881. # [18:04] <nemo> closing the non-obvious ones first
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  1883. # [18:04] <froydnj> Gijs: thanks!
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  1887. # [18:05] <gps> edmorley|sheriffduty: pulling inbound corrupted my Mercurial repo
  1888. # [18:05] <decoder> bsmedberg: 939788
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  1890. # [18:05] <jaws> RyanVM: not sure, lgtm
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  1893. # [18:05] <gps> content/base/src/nsXMLHttpRequest.h@173565: 3821f28f391f in manifests not found
  1894. # [18:05] <gps> testing/mochitest/manifest.webapp@173565: 7f4fa4684cb6 in manifests not found
  1895. # [18:05] <decoder> froydnj: i hope we can find a suitable solution to prevent these reports with tsan
  1896. # [18:05] <JosiahOne> RyanVM: The !important goes before the ;
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  1898. # [18:05] <decoder> (if they are harmless)
  1899. # [18:05] <gps> 173565 in my repo is beddd6d4bcdf
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  1902. # [18:06] <RyanVM> JosiahOne: aha, let me try that :)
  1903. # [18:06] <Gijs> froydnj: want to review bug 890545? ;)
  1904. # [18:06] <edmorley|sheriffduty> gps: hmm
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  1906. # [18:06] <gps> edmorley|sheriffduty: it could be me doing silly things with Mercurial
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  1908. # [18:07] <nemo> froydnj: funny how closing tabs sometimes raises memory a little :)
  1909. # [18:07] <nemo> froydnj: so gone up from 906 to 918 - I guess tabs were quiescent and waking 'em up sucked up a bit of mem
  1910. # [18:07] <RyanVM> jaws: JosiahOne: lovely, thanks :)
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  1912. # [18:07] <edmorley|sheriffduty> gps: I can pull ok at the moment, weird
  1913. # [18:07] <froydnj> Gijs: oh man, do I have to? :)
  1914. # [18:07] <jaws> RyanVM, JosiahOne: good catch!
  1915. # [18:07] <gps> edmorley|sheriffduty: I'm running verify on all my repos
  1916. # [18:07] <RyanVM> 2px looks great to me :P
  1917. # [18:08] <nemo> froydnj: and. now 950MiB, still closing tabs :)
  1918. # [18:08] <froydnj> nemo: doh
  1919. # [18:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f921dc945f7b - Olli Pettay - Bug 939789, call nsJSContext::LikelyShortLivingObjectCreated() only in the main thread, r=mccr8
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  1921. # [18:08] <Gijs> froydnj: nope, but it's pretty simple and it's been 3 weeks since I asked bsmedberg - I think he's busy with the plugin stuff :)
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  1923. # [18:09] <@bsmedberg> what did I forget to do?
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  1931. # [18:10] <froydnj> Gijs: looking at it now unless bsmedberg beats me to it
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  1933. # [18:11] <Gijs> froydnj: awesome
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  1935. # [18:11] <Gijs> bsmedberg: glandium gave me f+ for bug 890545 but then asked you to review after all :)
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  1937. # [18:12] <Gijs> bsmedberg: I didn't ping you, because I know you've been busy with plugin stuff and it's not super-critical
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  1939. # [18:12] <Gijs> bsmedberg: so don't worry, I'm sure froydnj can deal with it. :)
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  1941. # [18:12] <gps> edmorley|sheriffduty: I think this is an issue with just my repo
  1942. # [18:12] <gps> due to NFS on hg.mozilla.org bullshit
  1943. # [18:12] <edmorley|sheriffduty> gps: ok cool, thank you for the heads up anyway
  1944. # [18:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0ed8a5d6395c - Camilo Viecco - Bug 935769: Fix shutdown locks for nssCerList and nssCertListEnumerator. r=bsmith
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  1956. # [18:16] <mkaply_> Are there any other built in chrome content namespaces in Firefox besides browser and mozapps?
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  1958. # [18:17] * mkaply_ should probably just unzip omni.ja and look at the manifest
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  1960. # [18:17] <mkaply_> lots more than I thought
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  1963. # [18:18] <froydnj> Gijs: there you go
  1964. # [18:18] <Gijs> froydnj: woo, thanks! :)
  1965. # [18:19] <nemo> huh. someone I know had a firefox crash. their first in 2 months...
  1966. # [18:19] <nemo> I asked for the crash report and... "Firefox 25.0 Crash Report [@ EMPTY: no crashing thread identified; corrupt dump ]"
  1967. # [18:19] <nemo> I wonder how often that happens
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  1969. # [18:21] <lizzard> nemo: i think it's the top crash report right now for ff25
  1970. # [18:21] <nemo> ick
  1971. # [18:21] <nemo> lizzard: so. something is going on?
  1972. # [18:21] <nemo> is there a bug for it (in context of topcrasher)
  1973. # [18:21] <lizzard> nemo: you can see it here with a lot of bugs linked from it: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/products/Firefox/versions/25.0.1?days=7
  1974. # [18:21] <nemo> froydnj: *sigh* I should have done gc after each tab close
  1975. # [18:22] <nemo> froydnj: now I'm down to 577 and not sure why
  1976. # [18:22] <Ms2ger> froydnj, congratudolences
  1977. # [18:22] <nemo> lizzard: there were a lot of bugs in the crasher. too many actually. wasn't sure which was best candidate
  1978. # [18:23] <nemo> lizzard: OOM tho... hm. she currently has FF using 82% of system mem
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  1985. # [18:26] <froydnj> Ms2ger: :)
  1986. # [18:27] <tbsaunde> k/win25
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  1992. # [18:29] <nalexander> froydnj: yeah, ditto that. Well deserved!
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  2004. # [18:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f40322844ed - Jon Coppeard - Bug 934442 - Defer finalization of object ID table until after minor GC r=terrence
  2005. # [18:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c64028c5ff7 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 938211 - Supply copy assignment operator for Heap<T> and fix up some other classes in RootingAPI.h r=sfink
  2006. # [18:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d655d985076 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 938212 - Tenure iterator prototypes, as these can be accessed off-main-thread r=bhackett
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  2012. # [18:33] <nemo> froydnj: welp. I'm going to say it was reading this PDF that sucked up the majority of my memory
  2013. # [18:33] <nemo> froydnj: I closed everything but the PDF tab, pressed "minimise memory usage" then "measure" and I'm at 510MiB
  2014. # [18:34] <nemo> the rest was usual suspects - large jpeg in a private tab and some other stuff
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  2018. # [18:35] <froydnj> nemo: all the pdf memory should have been accounted for in about:memory; the heap-unclassified is the really interesting number
  2019. # [18:35] <froydnj> nemo: is that still high?
  2020. # [18:36] <nemo> nope :(
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  2022. # [18:36] <nemo> just 90MiB now
  2023. # [18:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d40a8f1b00b - Trevor Saunders - revert bug 931399 to see if it helps with bug 883059 at all
  2024. # [18:36] <nemo> froydnj: well. relatively not as high
  2025. # [18:36] <nemo> ├───90.09 MB (17.22%) ── heap-unclassified
  2026. # [18:36] <nemo> ├───86.55 MB (16.55%) -- heap-overhead
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  2028. # [18:36] <nemo> guess I can undo all the tab closes and see if it comes back
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  2031. # [18:38] <nemo> froydnj: what is "heap overhead" anyway?
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  2036. # [18:39] <nemo> froydnj: well. I can guess, structures related to managing the heap, but.... 17%? really?
  2037. # [18:40] <nemo> reran minimise and they are now
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  2040. # [18:40] <nemo> ├───94.27 MB (19.94%) -- heap-overhead and
  2041. # [18:40] <nemo> ├───86.84 MB (18.37%) ── heap-unclassified
  2042. # [18:40] <nemo> ... 107.76 MB (21.96%) -- heap-overhead and 84.70 MB (17.26%) ── heap-unclassified - yeesh
  2043. # [18:40] <froydnj> nemo: heap overhead is the difference between the memory you asked for and the memory the allocator actually gave you
  2044. # [18:40] <nemo> ahh
  2045. # [18:41] <froydnj> nemo: the allocator rounds up requests to make its life easier
  2046. # [18:41] <nemo> froydnj: ok. soooo a lot of small allocations could do that
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  2048. # [18:41] <decoder> smaug: btw, with your patch im not getting the original race anymore but instead I see a race from content/events/src/nsEventListenerManager.cpp:104 and the other stack shows up as unknown. that location was the other location for the previous race.. I assume it doesnt fix the problem entirely.. might be due to the NS_IsMainThread problem itself
  2049. # [18:41] <nemo> froydnj: lemme apply updates, and see if it is still doing this on restart w/ my one PDF tab
  2050. # [18:41] <froydnj> nemo: maybe; the allocator doesn't round up small allocations *that* much
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  2052. # [18:42] <froydnj> nemo: it's also possibly you're making many medium-sized allocations (10s of KB) that are effectively wasting half of what the allocator decides to hand out
  2053. # [18:43] <kbrosnan> till: looking at 931251 again and the crash only seems to spike on 25. the beta numbers are an order of magnitude lower
  2054. # [18:44] <till> kbrosnan: oh, interesting
  2055. # [18:45] <till> kbrosnan: but it's still there in beta, so this is probably an issue that is aggravated by something in 25, but not in 26, right?
  2056. # [18:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jaws: just spun new nightlies on m-c
  2057. # [18:45] <jaws> wow that was quick!
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  2059. # [18:45] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: *skritch* *scratch*
  2060. # [18:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: wikiwikiwaa
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  2063. # [18:47] <kbrosnan> till: hm order of magnitude might be off, more like 25b10 is 2x 26b4 or 26b2 crashes
  2064. # [18:47] <till> kbrosnan: ah, ok
  2065. # [18:48] <till> kbrosnan: I like the idea of uplifting bug 935903 as an attempted fix
  2066. # [18:48] <kbrosnan> ok
  2067. # [18:48] <kbrosnan> thanks for looking into this
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  2069. # [18:49] <till> kbrosnan: sure. I just wish I had more to show for it :(
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  2071. # [18:50] <kbrosnan> as do i
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  2073. # [18:50] <kbrosnan> nice when you can hit steps to repro
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  2075. # [18:50] <jaws> RyanVM|sheriffduty: how can i get permission to update treestatus?
  2076. # [18:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jaws: file a bug and CC me
  2077. # [18:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i can add you
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  2080. # [18:51] <jaws> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok thanks, KWierso helping me now. will file a bug later
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  2086. # [18:52] <@smaug> decoder: so it is not clear to me whether there is a real problem
  2087. # [18:52] <@ehsan> ah sessionstore :(
  2088. # [18:52] <@ehsan> ttaubert: ^
  2089. # [18:52] <@ehsan> I lost all of my session
  2090. # [18:52] <@ehsan> this is happening every few weeks these days
  2091. # [18:52] <@smaug> decoder: ELM.cpp 104 is again about NS_IsMainThread()
  2092. # [18:52] <decoder> smaug: to me neither. the problem seems to be about optimizations around NS_IsMainThread
  2093. # [18:53] <@gavin> ehsan: file a bug, provide more detail?
  2094. # [18:53] <@ehsan> gavin: what kind of detail can I provide besides I lost my session?
  2095. # [18:53] <KWierso> jaws: hrm, tbpl doesn't play nicely with long statuses :\
  2096. # [18:53] <decoder> smaug: maybe froydnj, bsmedberg and ttaubert can find a solution for that
  2097. # [18:53] <jaws> no it doesnt :(
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  2099. # [18:53] <@gavin> ehsan: circumstances that led to that, system/browser config, etc.
  2100. # [18:53] <@gavin> ehsan: I do not need to tell you this :)
  2101. # [18:53] <nemo> froydnj: so. after loading the pdf, memory usage was normal. after paging down it, as I had read it the first time, usage jumped to 447.66 MB (100.0%) -- explicit with 114.61 MB (25.60%) ── heap-unclassified but only 19.04 MB (04.25%) -- heap-overhead
  2102. # [18:54] <nemo> froydnj: if you like, I can send you the whole dump, if you think it is an interesting case
  2103. # [18:54] <@ehsan> gavin: the thing is I've never filed a sessionstore bug which people could diagnose
  2104. # [18:54] <@bsmedberg> The bug is confusing. We're either talking about reordering the C++ initializers in that class, which would seem to be a compiler bug or we don't understand the spec
  2105. # [18:54] <froydnj> nemo: this is repeatable? e.g. open browser with no tabs, open pdf, view stats, see problems?
  2106. # [18:54] <@ehsan> gavin: the problem is that the useful data for diagnosing the bug is always lost almost by definition
  2107. # [18:54] <@bsmedberg> *or* we're talking about some kind of race against NS_IsMainThread, which doesn't make much sense to me
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  2109. # [18:54] <@ehsan> but I'll file this bug regardless
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  2112. # [18:55] <nemo> froydnj: well. I've just done it once, and, reading the PDF a page at a time was crucial
  2113. # [18:55] <nemo> froydnj: PDF doesn't seem to really render the pages otherwise
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  2116. # [18:55] <nemo> froydnj: I can do it again. hang on
  2117. # [18:56] <nemo> it *is* a large PDF - 57 pages - mostly text, but fairly complex text
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  2120. # [18:56] <nemo> 55 pages
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  2123. # [18:57] <froydnj> bsmedberg: we'd face the same issue even if things were getting initialized in the order smaug thinks they ought to be
  2124. # [18:57] <froydnj> nemo: can you share the pdf?
  2125. # [18:57] <@bsmedberg> froydnj: which is the issue?
  2126. # [18:58] <gps> BenWa, ehsan: I just built central and build times since d4a27d8eda28 are -55s wall and 571s CPU time!
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  2128. # [18:58] <@ehsan> gps: -55s?
  2129. # [18:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/91e1d8abb51e - Sylvestre Ledru - Bug 793465 - Remove the unconditional declaration of HAVE_UINT64_T. r=glandium
  2130. # [18:58] <gps> that's almost 10 minutes of CPU time shaved off!
  2131. # [18:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae2fbe7075ce - Alexandre Poirot - Bug 770915 - Make Sandbox.dump() appear in adb logcat. r=gabor
  2132. # [18:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d65853025113 - Alexandros Chronopoulos - Bug 704316 - Remove reference to deleted mozilla-dos2unix. r=ted
  2133. # [18:58] <@ehsan> gps: sorry I can't parse that sentence :)
  2134. # [18:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fc3679786f70 - Arnaud Bienner - Bug 938334 - Use "Type" as parameter in nsCSSPseudoElements methods instead of "nsIAtom*" when it makes sense to do so. r=dbaron
  2135. # [18:58] <gps> ehsan: 11:13 to 10:18. and I was even running apps during the 10:18 time
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  2137. # [18:59] <gps> 75:59 total CPU time vs 66:28 today
  2138. # [18:59] <@ehsan> gps: what are those times from?
  2139. # [18:59] <@ehsan> I mean which dates?
  2140. # [18:59] <gps> ehsan: http://gregoryszorc.com/blog/2013/11/05/macbook-pro-firefox-build-times-comparison/
  2141. # [18:59] <gps> d4a27d8eda28 and f2adb62d07eb
  2142. # [18:59] <@ehsan> gps: these are clobber numbers?
  2143. # [18:59] <froydnj> bsmedberg: the compiler transforms |x ? 0 : y| to |xor %reg,%reg; cmove [mem], %reg|
  2144. # [18:59] <nemo> froydnj: sure. hang on
  2145. # [19:00] <gps> ehsan: yes
  2146. # [19:00] <nemo> wellll
  2147. # [19:00] <froydnj> bsmedberg: at least, I assume clang is doing this too, gcc does
  2148. # [19:00] <nemo> froydnj: probably
  2149. # [19:00] <nemo> hm
  2150. # [19:00] <evilpie> bz: I forgot one iid, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=939194#c4
  2151. # [19:00] <evilpie> I will push a fix
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  2153. # [19:00] <bz> evilpie: sounds good
  2154. # [19:00] <@gavin> ehsan: having a bug to keep a record is likely to be uch more effective than random IRC pings
  2155. # [19:00] <@ehsan> gps: related question, do you track build times somewhere?
  2156. # [19:00] <@bsmedberg> froydnj: I still don't think I understand why that's a problem
  2157. # [19:01] <@ehsan> gavin: I am filing the bug, I was just pointing out that it's probably no more useful than random IRC rants :)
  2158. # [19:01] <froydnj> bsmedberg: because now the read from [mem] is being done unconditionally on all threads
  2159. # [19:01] <gps> ehsan: not officially
  2160. # [19:01] <@ehsan> gavin: because I don't have any other piece of information to put in the bug
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  2163. # [19:01] <froydnj> bsmedberg: without any sort of locking...and tsan complains
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  2166. # [19:02] <froydnj> mmm, or maybe it loads the memory into a register first to actually trigger the read
  2167. # [19:02] <@bsmedberg> froydnj: cmov really loads the argument even if the condition is false?
  2168. # [19:02] <@gavin> ehsan: a bug is still useful even if you have nothing now, because it's a record and a place for discussion
  2169. # [19:02] <froydnj> bsmedberg: well, ok, I suppose that would not be observable
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  2172. # [19:03] <@ehsan> gavin: yes, I'm very well aware of that :) (bug 939872)
  2173. # [19:03] <nemo> froydnj: msg'd
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  2175. # [19:03] <froydnj> decoder: can you provide the disassembly for nsEventDispatcher::Dispatch from clang?
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  2178. # [19:04] <@ehsan> gps: anecdotally on my machine here, since we began the includehell reduction (which is when I started to pay attention to my build times), we've cut down more than half of our build time
  2179. # [19:05] <@ehsan> gps: from ~40-50mins to around 20 these days
  2180. # [19:05] <@ehsan> but that's totally non-scientific
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  2183. # [19:06] <gps> ehsan: some of that is C++ work. some I believe is also attributed to the 'compile' tier, which was introduced in that timespan
  2184. # [19:06] <gps> compile makes a huge difference for wall times
  2185. # [19:06] <gps> especially on high core count machines
  2186. # [19:06] <@ehsan> yeah I don't know how much each individual project shaved off
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  2190. # [19:07] <gps> "it's hard to measure." although, if you disable the compile tier, things should still build and thus you can isolate its impact
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  2192. # [19:08] <@ehsan> it doesn't matter much to me, what matters is faster builds :)
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  2194. # [19:08] <gps> indeed
  2195. # [19:08] <decoder> froydnj: if you tell me how to do that, then sure :)
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  2197. # [19:09] <gps> once the library build work is done, we should see another big gain, especially for builds closer to the no-op side of the spectrum
  2198. # [19:09] <froydnj> decoder: well, do you have a tsan tree lying around?
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  2200. # [19:09] <@ehsan> library build work?
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  2202. # [19:10] <decoder> froydnj: yes
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  2208. # [19:12] <froydnj> decoder: objdump -dr content/event/src/nsEventDispatcher.o |c++filt > out
  2209. # [19:12] <froydnj> decoder: and attach
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  2211. # [19:13] <decoder> froydnj: okay, will do that :)
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  2220. # [19:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/03c3f2a85102 - Simon Montagu - Test for bug 869833
  2221. # [19:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/04054b2172f3 - Simon Montagu - Add support for unicode-bidi: -moz-plaintext in XUL. Bug 869833, r=roc
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  2227. # [19:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ac08f00a8ebc - Steve Fink - Bug 932851 - Do not read from empty buffers when discarding, r=jorendorff
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  2229. # [19:23] <sfink> omni-sheriff: ping
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  2231. # [19:24] <lsblakk> Bas: ping on bug 937972 (needs your review)
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  2235. # [19:24] <Gijs> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ping (cc jaws)
  2236. # [19:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs: yo
  2237. # [19:24] <Gijs> yo
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  2239. # [19:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sfink: ohai?
  2240. # [19:25] <Gijs> can we still cancel nightlies?
  2241. # [19:25] <Gijs> (abort, abort!)
  2242. # [19:25] <Gijs> :P
  2243. # [19:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sure
  2244. # [19:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> why?
  2245. # [19:25] <Gijs> jaws: so we can, if you want to. I am a wuss, so I'm making this your call
  2246. # [19:25] <jaws> Gijs: how likely are you thinking that people will hit the bug you just fixed?
  2247. # [19:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0895ea2b258 - Antonio M. Amaya - Bug 939116 - Apply the TCPSocket.send offset parameter correctly. r=dpreston
  2248. # [19:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e6b742a22142 - Andy Wingo - Bug 932768 - Remove vestigial decompiler hacks from BytecodeEmitter. r=jwalden
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  2250. # [19:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a64cf19fa761 - Andy Wingo - Bug 932312 - Remove SRC_HIDDEN as it is no longer used. r=jwalden
  2251. # [19:26] <Gijs> jaws: the dragOverItem = null error, whenever you drop on a placeholder or on an empty panel bit, IIRC
  2252. # [19:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a906959d7743 - Byron Campen [:bwc] - Bug 906384 - Very simple global rate-limiting based on SimpleTokenBucket. Will tolerate a maximum of 8K/sec over 1 sec, and 3.6K/sec over 20 sec. r=ekr
  2253. # [19:26] <jaws> these nightlies will only be live for < 16 hours before the next one
  2254. # [19:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37c75e242ae0 - Jonas Finnemann Jensen - Bug 937201 - Fix Windows builds without MOZ_ENABLE_PROFILER_SPS. r=BenWa
  2255. # [19:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs: jaws: must be bad if people can't live with it for a day
  2256. # [19:26] <jaws> Gijs: yeah i know, i'm asking how likely people would hit it
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  2258. # [19:26] <sfink> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I think the SM(Hf) build is going to be serving as a canary for mach. Is that red Hf a known mach issue?
  2259. # [19:26] <jaws> RyanVM|sheriffduty: that's why i'm getting at
  2260. # [19:26] <Gijs> jaws: the random placeholder insertion which stay around, if you ever drag through the panel, 80%
  2261. # [19:26] <Gijs> I don't know. :(
  2262. # [19:26] <Gijs> TBH, I have been annoyed by it for a long time
  2263. # [19:26] <jaws> yeah, depends on how much we care about first run
  2264. # [19:26] <Gijs> but only 2 dupes were filed
  2265. # [19:27] <Gijs> and we *are* telling a lot of people to look at it *now*
  2266. # [19:27] <Gijs> they're much more likely to try out the customize mode stuff, esp. with madhava's blogpost.
  2267. # [19:27] <Gijs> (and johnath's)
  2268. # [19:27] <jaws> well, we could respin once we get your patch merged in
  2269. # [19:27] <Gijs> we could
  2270. # [19:27] <jaws> RyanVM|sheriffduty: if it's not going to cause an issue, let's hold back the respin until Gijs' patch gets merged to m-c
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  2273. # [19:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs: jaws: can't promise when the next fx-team merge will be
  2274. # [19:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> might not be until tongiht
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  2276. # [19:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jaws: Gijs: and I doubt we'd bother with new nightlies at that point
  2277. # [19:29] <Gijs> RyanVM|sheriffduty: understood.
  2278. # [19:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so do you still want to cancel them?
  2279. # [19:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2add23ce533 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 939629 - 1/2. Add missing include guards to a couple of Skia headers - r=gw280
  2280. # [19:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86cc4ba9d481 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 939629 - 2/2. Build Skia in unified mode - r=ehsan,gw280
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  2282. # [19:30] <jaws> RyanVM|sheriffduty: rlets keep it then
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  2284. # [19:30] <jaws> Don't cancel the respin
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  2287. # [19:31] <jaws> There are other Australis changes like the tabs that people can play with and a lack of a build for people to run after reading the tweets and blog posts would be unfortunate
  2288. # [19:31] <bz> So a qestion
  2289. # [19:31] <bz> er, question
  2290. # [19:31] <bz> if I currently have tabs on bottom
  2291. # [19:31] <bz> what will happen when my nightly updates to one with australis?
  2292. # [19:31] <jaws> bz: you will have tabs on top
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  2294. # [19:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bd3fb665acfc - Chenxia Liu - Bug 937870 - nsSearchService displays duplicate engine prompt regardless of confirmation set by caller. r=gavin
  2295. # [19:32] <bz> ok
  2296. # [19:32] <jaws> bz: you may be interested in http://aris-at-mozilla.blogspot.ca/
  2297. # [19:32] <Gijs> bz: and you won't be able to switch back.
  2298. # [19:32] <Gijs> well, not without that or a similar add-on, indeed.
  2299. # [19:32] <bz> No other breakage as a result of that pref being set?
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  2301. # [19:32] <jaws> that pref will be ignored
  2302. # [19:32] * bz doesn't use addons because they tend to break too much stuff
  2303. # [19:32] <bz> jaws: ok, thanks
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  2307. # [19:35] <lsblakk> RyanVM|sheriffduty: all beta approvals done, just waiting on a nom for bug 883500
  2308. # [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ok
  2309. # [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sfink: next push is green
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  2317. # [19:39] <mconley> BenWa / ehsan: hey - do either of you recognize what this might be? This is from a clobber build: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3629904
  2318. # [19:40] <@ehsan> looking
  2319. # [19:40] <mconley> BenWa / ehsan: gps theorizes it might be related to the unified build work
  2320. # [19:40] <@ehsan> mconley: that is probably my fault, yes
  2321. # [19:40] <BenWa> looks like it, ill let eh-san respond
  2322. # [19:40] <@ehsan> mconley: where are you?
  2323. # [19:40] <mconley> ehsan: at my desk - I'll come over
  2324. # [19:40] <@ehsan> mconley: I'm in the big room
  2325. # [19:40] <@ehsan> watching the presentation
  2326. # [19:40] <@ehsan> let me step out
  2327. # [19:40] <mconley> ehsan: I'm watching from my desk
  2328. # [19:40] <mconley> ehsan: ok
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  2331. # [19:41] <@ehsan> mconley: k, making coffee now :)
  2332. # [19:41] <mconley> ehsan: k, putting on sweater
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  2336. # [19:42] <philor> sfink: ohgodyoumademachPOTB?
  2337. # [19:42] <@ehsan> I love out status updates ;)
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  2339. # [19:42] <mconley> ehsan: :D
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  2341. # [19:42] <@ehsan> s/out/our/
  2342. # [19:42] <@ehsan> coming over
  2343. # [19:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f56094c77076 - Joel Maher - Bug 939719 - stop packaging tests.jar up during a build. r=ted
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  2357. # [19:51] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: looks like at least b2g desktop windows was actually counting on that unconditional HAVE_UINT64_T
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  2366. # [19:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: that'll teach me to try to get a quick bite to eat
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  2370. # [19:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/992194d6631f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 91e1d8abb51e (bug 793465) for bustage.
  2371. # [19:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f51e97cf27aa - Benoit Girard - Bug 936864 - Fix logic error in async animation code. r=roc a=lsblakk
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  2405. # [20:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb78a2801ad7 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 3 changesets (bug 937775, bug 937369, bug 937466) for mochitest-other failures.
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  2414. # [20:08] <philor> that's going to leave a mark
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  2417. # [20:09] <sfink> philor: way back when I set that up, I was guessing things were going to move that way. And now that I use it on my desktop, I kind of like having a job that notices when it breaks. Though I probably shouldn't have piled it on the hazards stuff.
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  2420. # [20:10] <sfink> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah, I saw. And I realize now that you wouldn't recognize it as a known problem, since this *is* the only job going through mach.
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  2422. # [20:10] <sfink> I'll point gps at it
  2423. # [20:10] <sfink> which is a little ironic
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  2425. # [20:10] <sfink> usually gps's point people in some direction
  2426. # [20:10] <Ms2ger> sfink, ... you made mach ptob?
  2427. # [20:11] <gps> sfink++
  2428. # [20:11] <froydnj> ptob?
  2429. # [20:11] <philor> hmm, why is Android jitcrashing on a PSM patch?
  2430. # [20:11] <Ms2ger> Not npotb
  2431. # [20:11] <froydnj> aha
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  2434. # [20:12] <sfink> gps: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30707163&tree=Mozilla-Inbound&full=1
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  2436. # [20:12] <sfink> gps: happened once so far. Surrounding builds are green.
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  2438. # [20:13] <gps> ddddouble timestamps
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  2444. # [20:14] <gps> ugh. I thought we swallowed all exceptions during resource reporting
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  2466. # [20:21] <philor> "_CERT_ForcePostMethodForOCSP? nothing to do with my OCSP patch!"
  2467. # [20:22] <@ehsan> gps: ping
  2468. # [20:22] <gps> ehsan: (autoresponse) content-free ping detected. Please consider providing some additional context so I can address your questions more efficiently.
  2469. # [20:22] <gps> ehsan: pong
  2470. # [20:22] <@ehsan> gps: which reference are you talking about? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=939880#c2
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  2474. # [20:23] <rnewman> is there supposed to be a horizontal 'groove' at the top of the Australis windows?
  2475. # [20:23] <gps> ehsan: oh, hmm. my configure has a reference on line 15705 but my configure.in doesn't. wtf
  2476. # [20:23] <@ehsan> o_O
  2477. # [20:24] <gps> that's the only srcdir reference outside of spellcheck's Makefile.in
  2478. # [20:24] <@ehsan> yeah
  2479. # [20:24] <froydnj> gps fact: providing context in pings reduces response time by 50%
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  2481. # [20:24] <@ehsan> which is why I thought I could remove this
  2482. # [20:24] <@ehsan> where does this thing in configure come from then?
  2483. # [20:24] <gps> ehsan: you still have r+. I think my tree is just whacked
  2484. # [20:25] <KaiRo> Hmm, it's confusing to me in Australis that the bookmarks menu and the Hamburger button look so similar
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  2486. # [20:25] <@bsmedberg> froydnj: aha, we need a @gpsfacts twitter account
  2487. # [20:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ac4f1a35bd8 - Steve Workman - Bug 923458 - ProxyAutoConfig::ResolveAddress should make medium priority DNS requests to use negative cache entries r=mcmanus
  2488. # [20:25] <@ehsan> gps: no I have it in my configure as well
  2489. # [20:25] <@ehsan> gps: not in configure.in
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  2491. # [20:25] <gps> so I'm not smoking crack [unlike Rob Ford]
  2492. # [20:25] <@ehsan> gps: fwiw configure seems to just set that shell variable
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  2494. # [20:26] <@ehsan> gps: stop speaking ill of our great mayor :P
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  2496. # [20:27] <@ehsan> gps: I think this is where that name comes from: PKG_CHECK_MODULES(MOZ_HUNSPELL, hunspell)
  2497. # [20:27] <gps> ehsan: it probably comes from some crazy macro
  2498. # [20:27] <@ehsan> but we don't AC_SUBST that variable anywhere as far as I can tell
  2499. # [20:27] <@ehsan> which suggests to me that the Makefile.in code I removed is dead code
  2500. # [20:27] <@ehsan> is that correct?
  2501. # [20:28] <gps> ehsan: on 2nd thought, I think that reference might actually do something
  2502. # [20:28] <@ehsan> how come?
  2503. # [20:28] <gps> if configure detects extra compiler flags needed by hunspell, the makefile.in adds them
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  2505. # [20:29] <@ehsan> gps: how does the variable move from configure to makefile though?
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  2507. # [20:29] <tbsaunde> ehsan: just try make -C extensions/spellcheck echo-variable-MOZ_HUNSPELL_CFLAGS or whatever it is?
  2508. # [20:29] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: good idea, gimme a sec
  2509. # [20:29] <gps> ehsan: all AC_SUBST variables are defined in Makefile.in
  2510. # [20:30] <@bsmedberg> hrm, my nightly is still up to date. Where's my australis?
  2511. # [20:30] <gps> look at config.status
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  2513. # [20:30] <bhearsum> bsmedberg: looks like it just landed this morning
  2514. # [20:30] <@ehsan> 359 (''' MOZ_HUNSPELL_CFLAGS ''', r''' '''),
  2515. # [20:30] <@ehsan> gps: ^
  2516. # [20:30] <bhearsum> so, it'll be out tomorrow
  2517. # [20:30] <@bsmedberg> bhearsum: yes, I was told we'd be respinning nightly
  2518. # [20:30] <bhearsum> ah
  2519. # [20:31] <bhearsum> they're still running AFAICT
  2520. # [20:31] <bz> gps: I may not finish up review on that build system bug today
  2521. # [20:31] <bz> gps: but if so, should be able to finish tomorrow
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  2523. # [20:31] <bz> gps: It's finicky code. :(
  2524. # [20:31] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: the build is not finished
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  2526. # [20:31] <@ehsan> gps: so, wontfix?
  2527. # [20:31] <gps> ehsan: yeah
  2528. # [20:32] <gps> I just got Australis on OS X Nightly
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  2531. # [20:32] <jld> ...oops. Restarted to see Australis; lost a half-entered bug.
  2532. # [20:32] <gps> oh no - vertical tabs isn't working :(
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  2535. # [20:33] <bz> gps: welcome to the the new clearly more optimal thing?
  2536. # [20:33] * bz is not bitter about changes breaking stuff like debugging mochitests, not at all....
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  2538. # [20:34] <mrbkap> bz: how did australis break debugging mochitests?
  2539. # [20:35] <bz> mrbkap: it didn't
  2540. # [20:35] <bz> mrbkap: but "it's clearly more optimal" test/build changes did
  2541. # [20:35] * mrbkap misunderstood the context.
  2542. # [20:35] <mrbkap> oh, ok
  2543. # [20:35] <bz> mrbkap: months ago
  2544. # [20:35] <bz> mrbkap: and here we are
  2545. # [20:35] <mrbkap> Right.
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  2547. # [20:35] <gps> hmmm. all my addons aren't compatible. I think I'm going to stick on yesterday's nightly for a few weeks
  2548. # [20:36] <bz> mrbkap: where every time I want to debug a mochitest I have to edit some .cpp files and recompile first.
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  2552. # [20:36] <froydnj> bz: that sounds like a not-good decision
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  2554. # [20:36] <bz> froydnj: which?
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  2556. # [20:37] <froydnj> bz: requiring cpp recompiles to debug mochitests
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  2558. # [20:37] <froydnj> bz: unless you are doing something unusual?
  2559. # [20:37] <bz> I dunno that there was a _decision_
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  2561. # [20:37] <bz> Just rewriting code without worrying about edge cases
  2562. # [20:37] <bz> like debugging.
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  2564. # [20:37] <bz> And getting rid of the other version of the code that actually used to work
  2565. # [20:38] <bz> so that we have code that's like the infra code
  2566. # [20:38] <bz> because then you run tests like the infra does
  2567. # [20:38] <bz> of course the infra never tries to _debug_ the tests.
  2568. # [20:38] <bz> And trying to fix debugging breaks some infra edge cases.
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  2571. # [20:38] <bz> Which are clearly more important than developer edge cases, because the infra is not AI and can't work around
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  2573. # [20:38] <evilpie> gps: that sounds really bad file a bug
  2574. # [20:39] <bz> whereas developers are mostly "I" (probably not "A", though) and hence can and do.
  2575. # [20:39] <froydnj> gaia pushbot is A!
  2576. # [20:39] * bz tries to hold on to his non-bitterness mantra
  2577. # [20:39] <bz> froydnj: Oh, infra is all sorts of "A"
  2578. # [20:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1431d2e9c5f7 - Steve Workman - Bug 938803 - Improve DNS debugs to show which path is taken in nsHostResolver::ResolveHost r=mcmanus
  2579. # [20:39] <bz> froydnj: Just not "I"
  2580. # [20:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dba5cd88962a - Steve Workman - Bug 938803 - Change nsDNSPrefetch and nsHttpChannel::BeginConnect to honor cache bypassing in load flags r=mcmanus
  2581. # [20:39] <bz> pusbot also never debugs mochitests. ;)
  2582. # [20:40] <KaiRo> evilpie: a lot of the add-ons that do UI stuff will be incompatible with Australis for sure, that was expected - and anything displaying larger stuff that did fit nicely within the Add-on bar is screwed anyhow
  2583. # [20:40] <bz> pushbot
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  2585. # [20:40] * froydnj is not sure pusbot should be allowed to commit anything
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  2587. # [20:40] <bz> It already is
  2588. # [20:40] <bz> it commits ugly changesets claiming they're from "pushbot"
  2589. # [20:41] <bz> But are actually full of pus
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  2591. # [20:41] <froydnj> heh
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  2594. # [20:41] <terrence-afk> bz: ping
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  2597. # [20:42] <bz> terrence: ack
  2598. # [20:42] <terrence> bz; hey, turning on exact rooting has a pretty heavy hit on dromaeo
  2599. # [20:42] <terrence> bz: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3630184
  2600. # [20:42] <bz> terrence: mmm
  2601. # [20:42] <terrence> bz: the performance hit is the same percentage regardless of jit, which makes me think it's per-op overhead
  2602. # [20:42] * froydnj wishes for the Nth time that mochitest and mochitest-browser-chrome shared code
  2603. # [20:42] <terrence> bz: any ideas where we should start looking?
  2604. # [20:42] <bz> terrence: Start with the per-test breakdown?
  2605. # [20:42] <@gavin> froydnj: they do share a lot of code...
  2606. # [20:43] <bz> terrence: between an exact rooting build and one without exact rooting?
  2607. # [20:43] <terrence> bz: good idea!
  2608. # [20:43] * terrence looks for the dromaeo breakdown page
  2609. # [20:43] <bz> terrence: See if it's more or less even across the board or if some tests are particularly hard-hit
  2610. # [20:43] <Ms2ger> bz, bug for the debugging thing?
  2611. # [20:43] <bz> terrence: ;)
  2612. # [20:43] <@gavin> froydnj: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873126 would probably help improve that even further
  2613. # [20:43] <bz> ms2ger: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=914925
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  2615. # [20:44] <Ms2ger> Ta
  2616. # [20:44] <terrence> bz: oh, that's the whole page :-/
  2617. # [20:44] <bz> ms2ger: And https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=934040
  2618. # [20:44] <bz> terrence: which is the whole page?
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  2620. # [20:44] <bz> ms2ger: and duplicates thereof
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  2623. # [20:44] <bz> ms2ger: it's only been two months
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  2625. # [20:44] <@ehsan> mconley: also, it's not quite clear to me how I'm supposed to leave Customize mode
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  2627. # [20:45] <@ehsan> mconley: I basically just click around randomly until it happens :)
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  2629. # [20:45] <bz> ms2ger: I figure I'll let it be another year or three before I just give up and drop everything else to work on this
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  2632. # [20:45] <froydnj> gavin: that does look pretty handy
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  2635. # [20:45] * Ms2ger hears a wee little bit of bitterness in bz's voice
  2636. # [20:45] <bz> Ms2ger: no. Not bitter. Not at all.
  2637. # [20:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff409a12b80e - William Chen - Bug 923167 - Update encoding used for compiling javaparser source files. r=hsivonen
  2638. # [20:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2cd9042e2ad - William Chen - Bug 822776 - Update "after after frameset" insertion mode. r=hsivonen
  2639. # [20:45] <terrence> bz: the page that loads once the testing is done; for the dromaeo js tests there are a huge number of sub-tests, so I did not realize the short list for DOM was all of them
  2640. # [20:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a9720e3247fc - William Chen - Bug 937259 - Remove <command> element from the parser. r=hsivonen
  2641. # [20:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/41607a557cad - William Chen - Bug 937003 - Use correct adjusted insertion location for foster parenting in template element. r=hsivonen
  2642. # [20:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b4ceac5a7f9 - William Chen - Bug 705046 - Enable all html5lib tests on Mac OS X 10.7 and 10.8. r=hsivonen
  2643. # [20:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f7720c16993 - William Chen - Bug 797009 - Remove bad assertion in HTML parser. r=hsivonen
  2644. # [20:46] <bz> terrence: ah
  2645. # [20:46] <bz> terrence: do you have dromaeo test run ids for your two test runs?
  2646. # [20:46] <froydnj> bz: huh, that's an interesting bug
  2647. # [20:46] <bz> froydnj: it's an _annoying_ bug is what it is.
  2648. # [20:46] <bz> froydnj: but yes, interesting like bubonic plague is interesting.
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  2651. # [20:47] <Gijs> ehsan: hit escape or click the menu button or click the customize button
  2652. # [20:48] <Gijs> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ping
  2653. # [20:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs: pong
  2654. # [20:48] <Gijs> RyanVM|sheriffduty: does mcmerge list backouts first or something?
  2655. # [20:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yes
  2656. # [20:48] <Gijs> huh, OK
  2657. # [20:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it's a different page
  2658. # [20:48] <Gijs> Ah
  2659. # [20:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> you can just skip to the next one
  2660. # [20:48] <Gijs> But there's also non-backouts in there
  2661. # [20:48] <Gijs> that it *is* resolving
  2662. # [20:48] <Gijs> this is weird
  2663. # [20:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> inconsistent commit messages that the regex doesn't like? :)
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  2665. # [20:50] <@ehsan> Gijs: ok, it's still not obvious :)
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  2667. # [20:51] <Gijs> ehsan: feel free to file a bug if you have a good idea about how to make it obvious / what to do. Kicking is easy, fixing is hard.
  2668. # [20:51] <bz> jmaher: ping
  2669. # [20:52] <@ehsan> Gijs: I'm not kicking, pointing out problems is still valuable even if you don't have a proposal to fix it
  2670. # [20:52] <terrence> bz: http://dromaeo.com/?id=209694 -> http://dromaeo.com/?id=209696
  2671. # [20:52] <Gijs> not if the problem has already been pointed out
  2672. # [20:52] <@ehsan> Gijs: and how would I know if it has?
  2673. # [20:52] <Gijs> because we had this discussion before?
  2674. # [20:52] <@ehsan> you and I?
  2675. # [20:52] <Gijs> you and whoever replied to you in fx-team at the time
  2676. # [20:52] <@ehsan> I don't remember this...
  2677. # [20:53] <@ehsan> and I don't understand why the attitude
  2678. # [20:53] <@ehsan> I'll file a bug regardless
  2679. # [20:53] <bz> terrence: http://dromaeo.com/?id=209694,209696
  2680. # [20:53] <terrence> bz: oh, neat!
  2681. # [20:53] * whimboo|brb is now known as whimboo
  2682. # [20:54] <bz> terrence: So getAttribute and setAttribute got way slower....
  2683. # [20:54] <bz> terrence: and the prop set
  2684. # [20:54] <bz> terrence: the three pure-JS tests in "dom attributes" are about the same, though the expando ones are a bit slower
  2685. # [20:55] <bz> terrence: similar pattern for the dom query tests
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  2688. # [20:55] <bz> terrence: and for the .childNodes test in dom traversal
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  2690. # [20:56] <bz> Might be worth just writing a standalone microbenchmark based on one of these tets
  2691. # [20:56] <bz> er, tests
  2692. # [20:56] <bz> and then profiling it
  2693. # [20:56] <Gijs> ehsan: maybe it's my memory that's broken, that is possible. It's a discussion I've seen happen too many times. Sorry for taking it out on you, that's not fair.
  2694. # [20:56] * jhammel is now known as jhammel|lunch
  2695. # [20:56] <terrence> bz: great idea
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  2697. # [20:56] <Gijs> ehsan: the problem is, nobody has so far offered a great solution
  2698. # [20:56] <@ehsan> Gijs: np, I filed a bug :)
  2699. # [20:56] <Gijs> see e.g. bug 881827
  2700. # [20:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce4445b22af1 - Ehsan Akhgari - Add a comment for bug 939880, DONTBUILD
  2701. # [20:56] <bz> terrence: let's start with dom-attr, since those tests are really simple
  2702. # [20:56] <Gijs> ehsan: where, ooi?
  2703. # [20:57] <Gijs> It probably needs to block our tracker bug
  2704. # [20:57] <bz> terrence: view-source:http://dromaeo.com/tests/dom-attr.html
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  2706. # [20:57] <Gijs> otherwise we might miss it
  2707. # [20:57] <terrence> bz: was just going to ask :-)
  2708. # [20:57] <@ehsan> Gijs: bug 939943
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  2710. # [20:57] <bz> terrence: let's take the getAttribute test and see what the story is
  2711. # [20:57] <@ehsan> also, why did I not get the Australis first time experience?
  2712. # [20:57] <@ehsan> does anyone know?
  2713. # [20:58] <Gijs> because it's not enabled yet
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  2715. # [20:58] <bz> ehsan: you didn't pay extra for it?
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  2717. # [20:59] <bz> terrence: or setAttribute if we want to avoid the gc pressure of getAttribute
  2718. # [20:59] <@ehsan> bz: for what?
  2719. # [20:59] <@ehsan> ah
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  2721. # [20:59] <@ehsan> that was a joke :)
  2722. # [20:59] * @ehsan is dumb
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  2724. # [21:00] <terrence> bz: this is with --enable-exact-rooing only, so this should only be extra Rooted overhead
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  2730. # [21:01] <bz> ehsan: Yes, sorry. ;)
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  2733. # [21:01] <@ehsan> bz: haha the blame lies on my part ;)
  2734. # [21:01] <bz> ehsan: You also failed to properly spell "Experience (TM)"
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  2737. # [21:01] <bz> ehsan: must be capitalized.
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  2739. # [21:01] <bz> terrence: hm
  2740. # [21:01] <bz> terrence: There should be pretty little going on with Rooted in getAttribute
  2741. # [21:01] <@ehsan> mconley: do you know about The First Time Experience (TM)?
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  2743. # [21:01] <@ehsan> bz: better? ^
  2744. # [21:01] <bz> terrence: let me verify this claim
  2745. # [21:02] <bz> ehsan: much. ;)
  2746. # [21:02] <@ehsan> \o/
  2747. # [21:02] <mconley> ehsan: yes, but Unfocused and MattN know much more than I do
  2748. # [21:02] <@ehsan> mconley: should I file a bug for not getting it?
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  2750. # [21:02] <bz> Yeah
  2751. # [21:02] <mconley> ehsan: no - it's not been activated yet - that's expected.
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  2753. # [21:02] <@ehsan> oh
  2754. # [21:02] <@ehsan> ok
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  2756. # [21:02] <@ehsan> carry on then
  2757. # [21:02] <MattN> right, it's not ready yet
  2758. # [21:03] <MattN> it will probably only be tested in beta
  2759. # [21:03] <@ehsan> that's scary, but ok!
  2760. # [21:03] <bz> terrence: there is no Rooted anywhere on that codepath, in fact
  2761. # [21:03] <bz> terrence: if I read the code right
  2762. # [21:03] <bz> terrence: let me pastebin
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  2766. # [21:03] <MattN> well, the server side is still being assembled
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  2769. # [21:04] <@ehsan> MattN: the server side? is it a video?
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  2774. # [21:05] <MattN> it's interactive but controlled/initiated by mozilla.org
  2775. # [21:05] <MattN> let me link to a video
  2776. # [21:06] <WeirdAl> Who are the major contributors for Promises to our code base? I'm having so much trouble understanding them - and the impl is changing pretty fast - that I need a flowchart...
  2777. # [21:06] <jimm> anyone having trouble getting to mxr?
  2778. # [21:06] <MattN> ehsan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X54Ur_Cp0io
  2779. # [21:06] <terrence> jonco: http://dromaeo.com/?id=209694,209696
  2780. # [21:06] <bz> terrence: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3630282
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  2782. # [21:06] <Ms2ger> WeirdAl, ask annevk, perhaps?
  2783. # [21:06] <@ehsan> MattN: thanks
  2784. # [21:06] <terrence> jonco: http://dromaeo.com/?id=209694,209696
  2785. # [21:06] * @ehsan pulls out headphones
  2786. # [21:06] <terrence> ah hem, now that you're here ^^
  2787. # [21:08] <@ehsan> MattN: do you know how that page talks to chrome? using events?
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  2789. # [21:08] <terrence> bz: I don't see any rooted in there directly :-(
  2790. # [21:08] <bz> terrence: yes, exactly
  2791. # [21:09] <MattN> ehsan: yes, events. That code is on m-c already btw.
  2792. # [21:09] <@ehsan> cool
  2793. # [21:09] <MattN> bug 862998
  2794. # [21:09] <@ehsan> MattN: thans
  2795. # [21:09] <decoder> froydnj: uploaded the disassembly
  2796. # [21:09] <bz> weirdal: baku and nsm
  2797. # [21:09] <MattN> there is an origin whitelist of course
  2798. # [21:09] * decoder brb
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  2801. # [21:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aacbc603eb67 - Brian Hackett - Bug 938950 - Don't provide full access to compartment/zone/runtime during Ion compilation, r=jandem.
  2802. # [21:10] <nsm> WeirdAl: hey. I don't see the context
  2803. # [21:11] <jorendorff> gps: Do you have a moment to help me understand what I'm looking at in js/src/configure.in?
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  2806. # [21:11] <jorendorff> gps: Or if you'd prefer I can needinfo?you in bug 939505
  2807. # [21:12] <jorendorff> ted: or you ^
  2808. # [21:12] <gps> jorendorff: glandium is a better bet
  2809. # [21:12] <jorendorff> glandium: ?
  2810. # [21:12] <jorendorff> gps: thanks
  2811. # [21:12] <gps> he's our resident m4 expert. he won't be online for another ~2 hours
  2812. # [21:13] <jorendorff> i'll just ni?him in the bug
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  2818. # [21:14] <bz> terrence: Any luck reproducing outside the dromaeo harness?
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  2823. # [21:17] <WeirdAl> nsm: Promises as a concept, I'm just not understanding it. I was hoping to get a diagram illustrating how promises are chained together, and what happens when, say A.reject() gets called, what the flow is from that point.
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  2825. # [21:18] <WeirdAl> some sort of visualization would help immensely
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  2829. # [21:22] <gps> WeirdAl: on that subject, bug 939367 tracks enabling other parts of the tree to generate Sphinx docs. and Sphinx has support for rendering Graphviz diagrams (http://sphinx-doc.org/ext/graphviz.html)
  2830. # [21:22] <gps> https://ci.mozilla.org/job/mozilla-central-docs/Build_Documentation/index.html is the existing Sphinx docs
  2831. # [21:23] * WeirdAl shakes his head
  2832. # [21:23] <gps> not saying it should be used, but it could be
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  2836. # [21:23] <gps> i know a few people have been asking how to generate in-tree docs
  2837. # [21:23] <WeirdAl> in-tree docs are nice, but not related to the question at hand
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  2842. # [21:25] <WeirdAl> I'm asking for a flowchart where the decisions are fulfill/reject points, so I can see in a simple diagram what happens to a chain of Promise objects at each step... even if flowcharts are out of vogue, some kind of picture to explain the words :)
  2843. # [21:26] <gps> yeah, it's confusing. personally, I find promises by themselves to be not very handy. Tasks via Task.jsm, however, make them useful
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  2846. # [21:27] <philor> if anybody wants to land on inbound, you'll need to shove bhackett out of your way
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  2848. # [21:28] <Mook_as> doesn't task.jsm still require a promise-y .then(null, cb) for handling exceptions?
  2849. # [21:28] <evilpie> wow that new plugin notification bar is quite annoying
  2850. # [21:29] <KWierso> philor: on it
  2851. # [21:29] <gps> Mook_as: tasks return a promise, yes. but you only deal with 1 promise instead of several
  2852. # [21:30] <gps> and promises inside the generator function can be caught via try..catch
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  2854. # [21:30] <nsm> WeirdAl: Is anything connected to A?
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  2856. # [21:30] <nsm> when A.reject() is called, it will trigger any functions chained to A.then()/catch()
  2857. # [21:30] <gps> try { yield someFunctionThatReturnsAPromise(); } except (ex) { // if that promise called .error() }
  2858. # [21:31] <WeirdAl> nsm: for the purposes of illustration, yes
  2859. # [21:31] <philor> somebody who knows layout and font reftests: ping
  2860. # [21:31] <nsm> gps: does the above example really work like that? what is error()?
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  2863. # [21:31] <gps> nsm: sorry, i meant the error callback to .then()
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  2866. # [21:32] <gps> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/JavaScript_code_modules/Task.jsm
  2867. # [21:32] <nsm> gps: promises are supposed to catch thrown exceptions internally and send it through catch()
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  2870. # [21:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/51b8979e2dd6 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset aacbc603eb67 (bug 938950) for bustage on a CLOSED TREE
  2871. # [21:32] <gps> is this promise a+ foo? why do they keep changing the spec :/
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  2873. # [21:32] <nsm> so you'd write SomeFunctionReturningsAPromise().catch( function(err) { err instanceof Error == True (usually) } )
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  2875. # [21:33] <nsm> gps: latest (and accepted by ECMA) spec is https://github.com/domenic/promises-unwrapping
  2876. # [21:33] <gps> yeah, so I don't care what's in the ECMA spec. I care about what we use in our tree :)
  2877. # [21:33] <gps> for me as a firefox js dev, that's whatever is in promise.jsm and task.jsm :)
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  2879. # [21:34] * WeirdAl agrees with gps, with the inclusion of "whatever is coming to promise.jsm/task.jsm soon"
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  2881. # [21:35] <bz> gps: we're working on killing those
  2882. # [21:35] <bz> gps: fwiw
  2883. # [21:35] <bz> gps: in favor of the ECMA stuff
  2884. # [21:35] <WeirdAl> great...
  2885. # [21:35] <gps> bz: good to know
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  2887. # [21:36] <nsm> gps: yea, i'm trying to get rid of that - bug 939636
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  2889. # [21:36] <WeirdAl> nsm: OS.File? That's where my interest in this all started.
  2890. # [21:36] <gps> just as long as I can still use promises as generators. writing procedural-looking code doesn't make my head explode
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  2892. # [21:37] <nsm> WeirdAl: I haven't gotten around to converting that yet, there are a few changes required to our implementation before I can start
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  2895. # [21:38] <WeirdAl> could you file a bug specific to OS.File, please, so I can try to follow it?
  2896. # [21:38] <gps> nsm: you should email the firefox team. lots of people writing code would like to know about this effort
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  2898. # [21:38] <nsm> gps: which list is this?
  2899. # [21:38] <nsm> s/this/that
  2900. # [21:38] <gps> dev-firefox (or is it firefox-dev)
  2901. # [21:38] <gps> firefox-dev@mozilla.org
  2902. # [21:39] <Mook_as> nsm/gps: umm, dev.platform? Since there are probably non-firefox users...
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  2904. # [21:39] <gps> cross post
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  2906. # [21:39] <nsm> will do
  2907. # [21:39] <Mook_as> thanks :)
  2908. # [21:39] <RyanVM> so, who's been playing around with text-overflow lately?
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  2916. # [21:42] <Mossop> bz: Who's working on that and how hard? (And what is their technique)
  2917. # [21:42] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: ping
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  2933. # [21:45] <nsm> WeirdAl: umm... if you could describe a specific example, i could use that to explain
  2934. # [21:45] <@ehsan> mconley: did you file that build bug?
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  2936. # [21:45] <@ehsan> oh you did
  2937. # [21:46] <mconley> ehsan: yeah - and it got r+'d. I'm landing it right now
  2938. # [21:46] <@ehsan> lol
  2939. # [21:46] <@ehsan> good timing on my part then
  2940. # [21:46] <mconley> ehsan: did you just hit it?
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  2942. # [21:46] <@ehsan> no
  2943. # [21:46] <@ehsan> just remembered it
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  2952. # [21:49] <WeirdAl> nsm: ok, in bug 915838 there's a patch with a getDataDirectory function. Two promises, probably not chained together "correctly"
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  2959. # [21:50] * WeirdAl needs a chrome scratchpad
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  2965. # [21:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f25c7ee9d26 - Stephen Pohl - Bug 935258: Tear down swipe animation overlay on popstate events. r=felipe
  2966. # [21:51] <Gijs> WeirdAl: just switch scratchpad to use the browser context?
  2967. # [21:51] <KWierso|sheriffduty> WeirdAl: there is one?
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  2971. # [21:52] <nsm> WeirdAl: the code is correct, but not idiomatic, let me copy that into pastebin
  2972. # [21:53] <WeirdAl> back in a sec
  2973. # [21:53] <WeirdAl> gotta restart
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  2977. # [21:54] <Benvie> anyone else on Windows seeing the return of Firefox trunk fails to link libxul with MSVC 2012 and newer: "error LNK2038 [...] value 'MT_StaticRelease' doesn't match value 'MD_DynamicRelease'", https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=926083
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  2980. # [21:55] <Benvie> oh right, I need to build with MSVC 2010, nevermind
  2981. # [21:55] <@ehsan> mconley: lol thanks for the credit ;)
  2982. # [21:55] <mconley> ehsan: more like "thanks for the responsibility". :D
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  2984. # [21:55] <RyanVM> Benvie: yes
  2985. # [21:56] <@ehsan> mconley: wait. does landing patches imply responsibility? ;)
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  2988. # [21:56] <Gijs> philor: so are those timeouts in the customizableui tests happening anywhere but linux?
  2989. # [21:56] <RyanVM> firebot: bug 939557
  2990. # [21:56] <mconley> ehsan: nope, but writing them does! :D
  2991. # [21:56] <RyanVM> Benvie: bug 939557
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  2993. # [21:56] <RyanVM> firebot: I don't like you anymore
  2994. # [21:57] <Benvie> RyanVM: thanks
  2995. # [21:57] <nsm> WeirdAl: http://nsm.pastebin.mozilla.org/3630534
  2996. # [21:57] <RyanVM> Benvie: backing out bug 937900 does work
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  2998. # [21:57] <@ehsan> mconley: well you just attached a text file to the bug, I hereby deny all responsibilities
  2999. # [21:58] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=939557 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, browsercomps.dll failed to build with lots of mismatches detected
  3000. # [21:58] <RyanVM> firebot: about time
  3001. # [21:58] <firebot> RyanVM: Sorry, I've no idea what 'I don't like you anymore' might be.
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  3006. # [21:59] <KWierso|sheriffduty> RyanVM: maybe bugzilla's slow because of Gijs's mass-close?
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  3008. # [21:59] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: nah, it lagged responding to me too
  3009. # [21:59] <philor> Gijs: not yet, anyway
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  3012. # [21:59] <firebot> RyanVM: Sorry, I've no idea what 'about time' might be.
  3013. # [21:59] <Gijs> philor: that is weird.
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  3015. # [22:00] <WeirdAl> nsm, I like the latter format better
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  3017. # [22:00] <WeirdAl> nsm: could you also respond to the bug in question? It'll help Unfocused with the review.
  3018. # [22:01] <nsm> WeirdAl: ok, so the thing is, when a then callback returns a promise, that promise subsumes the original
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  3022. # [22:01] <nsm> WeirdAl: the way to imagine it is "Promise.then() returns a *new Promise*, which has been resolved to whatever the then()'s first function returned"
  3023. # [22:01] <nsm> ok
  3024. # [22:02] <WeirdAl> uh huh, that much I got :)
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  3026. # [22:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c41476a4c916 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 936455 - Call GetObjectElementOperation instead of GetElementOperation from GetElementIC::update. r=efaust
  3027. # [22:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b2bf6c48e32 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 939420 - Fix shell neuter() function to return |undefined| instead of itself. r=jorendorff
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  3035. # [22:04] <WeirdAl> adding .catch to the mix threw me (pun not intended)
  3036. # [22:04] <nsm> WeirdAl: can't find a question
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  3038. # [22:05] <WeirdAl> does catch get called if any of the chained promises fails?
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  3040. # [22:05] <WeirdAl> or just the last one?
  3041. # [22:05] <KWierso|sheriffduty> ehsan: busted static analysis build on your push
  3042. # [22:06] <KWierso|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30717776&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  3043. # [22:06] <@ehsan> o_O
  3044. # [22:06] <@ehsan> KWierso|sheriffduty: which patch is that?
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  3047. # [22:06] <KWierso|sheriffduty> "Ehsan Akhgari – Bug 939924 - Fix build error: KS.H must be included before codecapi.H in WMF.h. r=cpearce"
  3048. # [22:06] <@ehsan> oh
  3049. # [22:06] <@ehsan> mconley: ^ :P
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  3052. # [22:07] <@ehsan> KWierso|sheriffduty: this is unrelated, that patch is windows only
  3053. # [22:07] <@ehsan> please file this in Core::Build Config
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  3055. # [22:07] <WeirdAl> nsm: for which promises could the catch callback be executed?
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  3058. # [22:07] <mconley> ehsan: heh - I knew I did the right thing. :D
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  3060. # [22:08] <nsm> WeirdAl: I am very confident it will trigger on any promise failing, but let me verify that
  3061. # [22:08] <philor> Gijs: scroll far enough up in the one I'm looking at, there's a "WARNING: Can't allocate graphics resources, aborting subprocess", rather like ye olde OOM
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  3063. # [22:09] <KWierso|sheriffduty> ehsan: will do
  3064. # [22:09] <Gijs> philor: oh. That's... not good.
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  3066. # [22:09] <@ehsan> thanks
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  3072. # [22:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c848ede03acc - Brian Hackett - Bug 938950 - Don't provide full access to compartment/zone/runtime during Ion compilation, r=jandem.
  3073. # [22:11] <nsm> WeirdAl: always triggers, as long as there is no catch catching it earlier
  3074. # [22:11] * philor blames social/ for everything
  3075. # [22:11] <catlee> hm...
  3076. # [22:11] <philor> it's a disease
  3077. # [22:11] <catlee> just had australis crash
  3078. # [22:11] <catlee> but no crash report
  3079. # [22:11] <WeirdAl> nsm: good, it's an express lane from any failure to the catch callback
  3080. # [22:11] <nsm> WeirdAl: also, if a promise that fails is not catch()ed, it will show up in browser console
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  3086. # [22:12] <nemo> ugh.
  3087. # [22:13] <RyanVM> Gijs: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/48fa00afe683 - pretty sure that's the wrong bug #
  3088. # [22:13] <nemo> Australis ☹ ☹ ☹
  3089. # [22:13] <Gijs> RyanVM: yes
  3090. # [22:14] <Gijs> mconley: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/48fa00afe683 ^^
  3091. # [22:14] <WeirdAl> nsm: ok, I think I can start drawing a flowchart based on .then and .catch
  3092. # [22:14] <nemo> is there a pref to get me back the button? the heaven trigram is way too minimalist a menu for me
  3093. # [22:14] <nemo> but apart from toggling CSS, the button had most stuff I needed
  3094. # [22:15] <Gijs> nemo: no. But you can add more stuff to the menu...
  3095. # [22:15] <Gijs> nemo: what do you mean by toggling CSS?
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  3097. # [22:15] <nemo> Gijs: I filed a bug about it, never went anywhere
  3098. # [22:15] <nsm> WeirdAl: have you read this - http://domenic.me/2012/10/14/youre-missing-the-point-of-promises/
  3099. # [22:16] <Gijs> nemo: about what?
  3100. # [22:16] <nemo> Gijs: View->Page Style
  3101. # [22:16] <nemo> Gijs: asked for it to be accessible somewhere under Web Developer
  3102. # [22:16] <Gijs> nemo: where is this bug?
  3103. # [22:16] * nemo hunts
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  3105. # [22:16] <nemo> there was some discussion btw
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  3107. # [22:17] <KWierso|sheriffduty> nemo: menubar is still accessible via alt, if that helps
  3108. # [22:18] <nemo> KWierso|sheriffduty: mm. kinda. but I had gotten used to accessing things through the button. I do get tired of retraining. but I prob should just reenable the old style menu
  3109. # [22:18] <Gijs> RyanVM++
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  3111. # [22:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/63c1f6716755 - Oleg Romashin - Bug 822898 - Implement pointer events. Basic Tests. r=smaug
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  3113. # [22:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a5e360e6d713 - Oleg Romashin - Bug 822898 - Implement pointer events. Interface. r=smaug
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  3115. # [22:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/145150ef00a5 - Oleg Romashin - Bug 822898 - Implement pointer events. Basic handling of Pointer Events. r=smaug
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  3117. # [22:19] <RyanVM> Gijs: ?
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  3121. # [22:19] <Gijs> RyanVM: updating the milestone on the bug that mcmerge didn't catch and I resolved manually but without updating the milestone :)
  3122. # [22:19] <RyanVM> ah :)
  3123. # [22:20] <WeirdAl> nsm: no, I hadn't, reading now
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  3125. # [22:21] <nemo> Gijs: how odd. not finding it in search of my e-mail on bugzilla. checking local e-mail history
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  3129. # [22:22] <RyanVM> Gijs: hmm, I'm right clicking on a bookmark from the dropdown and Delete is greyed out?
  3130. # [22:22] * sheppy-afk is now known as sheppy
  3131. # [22:22] <Gijs> RyanVM: all the bookmarks?
  3132. # [22:22] <RyanVM> yes
  3133. # [22:22] <Gijs> RyanVM: unless you're in customize mode, sounds like something we might have broken. Please file & feel free to CC me and possibly :mak
  3134. # [22:23] <nemo> ahhh
  3135. # [22:23] <nemo> Gijs: because I hadn't reported it apparently :D
  3136. # [22:23] <nemo> Gijs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=856787
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  3138. # [22:24] <Gijs> nemo: yeah... doesn't seem likely we'll add a builtin proper toolbar button just for that
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  3140. # [22:24] <nemo> Gijs: well. some way to access it...
  3141. # [22:24] <bhearsum> dolske: is there a general story for wide-mode add-ons in australis? foxclocks isn't really useful in icon mode...
  3142. # [22:24] <nemo> Gijs: is true that "alternate styles" is just one bit of web tech abandoned by the wayside
  3143. # [22:24] <Gijs> nemo: right.
  3144. # [22:24] <nemo> but the "no style" thing sure is handy. I use it a *lot*
  3145. # [22:25] <Gijs> nemo: was it in the Firefox menu, though?
  3146. # [22:25] <nemo> And. not just debugging. Sometimes just to read an article on a horrific website, sanely
  3147. # [22:25] <nemo> Gijs: it is in the old style menu bar. not in the menu button
  3148. # [22:25] <Gijs> Right.
  3149. # [22:25] <Gijs> So we didn't really regress anything :)
  3150. # [22:25] <nemo> Gijs: was the one reason I'd switch to the menu bar pretty regularly
  3151. # [22:25] <RyanVM> Gijs: even better, I deleted the bookmark from the Library but it still shows on the dropdown
  3152. # [22:25] <Gijs> Right
  3153. # [22:25] <nemo> Gijs: no, didn't say you did, was just explaining it as a reason to switch to menu bar permanently
  3154. # [22:26] <Gijs> nemo: right. I don't think we'd add a primary button for it.
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  3156. # [22:26] <Gijs> nemo: you could file a bug for it, but it'd probably be WONTFIXed
  3157. # [22:26] <Waldo> who does QA testing of addons these days, wrt trunk changes that might break addons? wondering if we have some readily-consulted list of the addons that use the JSAPI, which could be tested against a JSAPI change I'm making on aurora
  3158. # [22:26] <nemo> something like... new menu is too minimalist for me, too much relearning, not easy for eye to jump through... menu button is not an option, but menu button is missing something I used a lot, sooo menu bar isn't so bad after all
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  3160. # [22:26] <nemo> Gijs: bug for... allowing us to have menu button back?
  3161. # [22:26] <nemo> I'm confused
  3162. # [22:26] <Gijs> Waldo: I think generally devs grep add-ons mxr
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  3164. # [22:27] <decoder> froydnj: you're suggesting that NS_IsMainThread itself is causing the racy read?
  3165. # [22:27] <Gijs> nemo: no, for adding a toolbar button for that menu
  3166. # [22:27] <@dolske> bhearsum: other than an addon to replace the bar, or using it the manelmenu, not really. theory is those are relatively uncommon.
  3167. # [22:27] <Gijs> (the page style menu)
  3168. # [22:27] <nemo> Gijs: oh...
  3169. # [22:27] <nemo> Gijs: yeah, not worth it
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  3173. # [22:27] <Gijs> RyanVM: I'm not fixing it until you file it. ;)
  3174. # [22:27] <bhearsum> dolske: ahhhh, okay.
  3175. # [22:27] <bhearsum> that's fair
  3176. # [22:27] <bhearsum> does the "addon to replace the bar" already exist?
  3177. # [22:27] <RyanVM> Gijs: I already filed the one
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  3179. # [22:28] <RyanVM> Gijs: I've got other stuff to do now
  3180. # [22:28] <Gijs> Ah, I see it now
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  3182. # [22:28] <Gijs> RyanVM: cool, thanks!
  3183. # [22:28] * philor blinks at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30717285&full=1&branch=cedar#error0
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  3186. # [22:29] <philor> I wonder if maybe the extension manager leaks because it depends on a long shutdown to give it enough time to not leak, and running a third of b-c shuts down too fast
  3187. # [22:29] <Gijs> RyanVM: hrm, I don't even get a context menu at all on OS X
  3188. # [22:29] <Gijs> sigh
  3189. # [22:29] <Gijs> OTOH maybe that never worked...
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  3191. # [22:29] <Waldo> Gijs: it's a JSAPI change specifically, so it wouldn't appear in addons MXR because it'd affect compiled code
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  3194. # [22:30] <Gijs> Waldo: then I don't know. Sorry.
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  3197. # [22:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eef38129d0cf - Seth Fowler - Bug 910533 - Clear invalidation rect only after sync notifying in imgStatusTracker. r=tn
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  3200. # [22:32] <TheOne> look at all those bugmails
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  3203. # [22:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07c4e0477bdf - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 939611 - Build storage/src in unified mode; r=asuth
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  3207. # [22:33] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: I just switched inbound into its more natural state
  3208. # [22:33] <WeirdAl> nsm: I'm going to bookmark that. Also, nice to see promises in native code, even if they're hidden behind a pref...
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  3210. # [22:34] <nsm> WeirdAl: already enabled for chrome callers
  3211. # [22:34] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: got a backout in before you did that :P
  3212. # [22:34] <KWierso|sheriffduty> but yeah, lets let things settle, I guess
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  3214. # [22:34] <nsm> WeirdAl: and i plan to flip the pref to enable them on tests for content too
  3215. # [22:34] <WeirdAl> nice.
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  3217. # [22:34] <nsm> once everything is converted to new promises though
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  3220. # [22:34] <WeirdAl> I'm still going to do a flowchart or three, probably in SVG so I can include inline code samples
  3221. # [22:34] <bhackett> KWierso|sheriffduty: ping
  3222. # [22:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a77bea7ccaa - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset c848ede03acc (bug 938950) for build bustage
  3223. # [22:35] <KWierso|sheriffduty> bhackett: pong
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  3225. # [22:35] <bhackett> KWierso|sheriffduty: that push just needs a clobber, right?
  3226. # [22:35] <Waldo> RyanVM: I beat you, sir
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  3228. # [22:35] <RyanVM> Waldo: that was your push I marked ;)
  3229. # [22:35] <nemo> hm. I guess this is for the best. I forgot just how much stuff there was in the menu bar w/o poking around ♥
  3230. # [22:35] <RyanVM> since *somebody* was taking their sweet time
  3231. # [22:35] <nemo> and I'm putting a bunch of handy icons on that bar too, since I have the space there :)
  3232. # [22:36] <Waldo> RyanVM: I was being *responsible* and trying to answer the qawanted question I just added, rather than spamming the bug twice
  3233. # [22:36] <RyanVM> a likely story
  3234. # [22:36] <Waldo> RyanVM: but you forced me to spam it, you spammer you
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  3236. # [22:36] <RyanVM> Waldo: You know, I've been called a lot of hurtful things in my day
  3237. # [22:36] <WeirdAl> nsm: so in the browser scratchpad, how do I get the native promise impl?
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  3239. # [22:36] <Waldo> RyanVM: but spam is so tasty that can't be an insult!
  3240. # [22:37] <KWierso|sheriffduty> bhackett: feel free to reland with a touch to CLOBBER when the tree reopens :)
  3241. # [22:37] <nsm> WeirdAl: if you have a window around, new window.Promise
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  3245. # [22:37] <Waldo> RyanVM: backscroll here demonstrates my intentions prefigured your bug-poking :-P
  3246. # [22:38] <bhackett> why on earth does adding a new file require a clobber build
  3247. # [22:38] <nemo> Gijs: hm. I see australis is buggy w/ dark themes. Appears to not set color: on the "Restore Defaults" button under customise
  3248. # [22:38] <bhackett> this seems like makefiles 101 stuff
  3249. # [22:38] <WeirdAl> nsm: typeof window.Promise returns undefined in the browser scratchpad
  3250. # [22:38] <nsm> WeirdAl: is the pref enabled?
  3251. # [22:38] <nemo> Gijs: BTW, where is "flexible space" and "separator" in customise? Trying to figure out how to put the icons I added to the right of the menu bar
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  3253. # [22:38] <WeirdAl> duh, of course not :(
  3254. # [22:38] <nemo> Gijs: and there seems to be no way to access the old "customise" which had this
  3255. # [22:38] <nsm> well the window object is itself in content privileges if its a normal page's winodw
  3256. # [22:39] <nsm> window*
  3257. # [22:39] <nemo> wouldn't mind tossing a separator in too
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  3259. # [22:39] <Gijs> nemo: dark OS themes or dark Firefox themes or dark lightweight themes?
  3260. # [22:39] <nemo> Gijs: dark OS theme.
  3261. # [22:39] <Gijs> nemo: what OS?
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  3264. # [22:39] <RyanVM> glandium: ping
  3265. # [22:39] <nemo> Gijs: Ubuntu Linux, MATE (gnome2) desktop
  3266. # [22:39] <WeirdAl> nsm: got it now
  3267. # [22:39] <Gijs> nemo: sounds like you should file a bug about that.
  3268. # [22:39] <Mook_as> nsm: out of curiosity, are there ways to get at a (native) promise without a window?
  3269. # [22:39] <nemo> heh
  3270. # [22:40] <WeirdAl> Mook_as: excellent question: applies for JSM's and components
  3271. # [22:40] <nsm> Mook_as: i'll have a patch for that in a few minutes on Bug 939636, but not right now
  3272. # [22:40] <Gijs> nemo: regarding the customization stuff... there is no longer a way to add separators, flexible space or space using customize mode, because they were found to be confusing and unnecessary for pretty much any user.
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  3274. # [22:41] <Gijs> nemo: and customization mode replaces the old dialog, so there's currently no way to add them without using an add-on.
  3275. # [22:41] <Mook_as> nsm: thanks; I'm not planning on using it _right now_ either, so that works for me :D (I just want to track things for the future - I mostly run on ESR branches)
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  3279. # [22:42] <nemo> Gijs: well...
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  3282. # [22:42] <nemo> Gijs: I can tell you what is confusing
  3283. # [22:42] <nemo> Gijs: dragging an icon to the far right on the bar, and having it appear on the left :)
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  3285. # [22:42] <nemo> Gijs: I thought it would position it where placed in new UI
  3286. # [22:42] <nemo> ah well
  3287. # [22:42] <Gijs> nemo: it should, that sounds like a bug.
  3288. # [22:42] <nemo> Gijs: it isn't
  3289. # [22:43] <Gijs> oh, you mean there's no space inbetween the icons?
  3290. # [22:43] <Gijs> err
  3291. # [22:43] <nemo> Gijs: is the sort of thing that inserting a flexible space automatically based on where the icon was released, would solve
  3292. # [22:43] <nemo> so. I guess that's kind of a UI bug sorta
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  3294. # [22:43] <Gijs> Oh, I see what you mean
  3295. # [22:43] <nemo> but. requires a bit more awareness
  3296. # [22:43] <Gijs> Yeah, I'm not sure if we want to fix that.
  3297. # [22:43] <nemo> on part of the UI
  3298. # [22:43] <Gijs> this kind of thing is easy to understand
  3299. # [22:43] <bhackett> RyanVM: ping
  3300. # [22:43] * mattwoodrow|away is now known as mattwoodrow
  3301. # [22:43] <Gijs> "stuff in a toolbar is left aligned"
  3302. # [22:43] <nemo> Gijs: well. having a separator would fix, for sure
  3303. # [22:43] * nemo sighs
  3304. # [22:43] <RyanVM> bhackett: pong
  3305. # [22:43] <Gijs> Otherwise, hwo do you get rid of the separator/spacer?
  3306. # [22:43] <nemo> well. maybe there'll be some addons to solve these things
  3307. # [22:43] <bhackett> RyanVM: is there a way to do a clobber build on an existing push?
  3308. # [22:43] <Gijs> Oh, there will be :)
  3309. # [22:43] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: pong
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  3311. # [22:44] <nemo> Gijs: do it based on whether there are any icons on the right of the space ofc
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  3313. # [22:44] <nemo> Gijs: person drags icon they placed right off
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  3315. # [22:44] <nemo> remove the flexible space
  3316. # [22:44] <Gijs> nemo: http://aris-at-mozilla.blogspot.ca/
  3317. # [22:44] <nemo> easy
  3318. # [22:44] <WeirdAl> nsm: heh, I'd love to see an example of a function being passed a Promise that it's supposed to append .then() conditions to :)
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  3320. # [22:44] <RyanVM> bhackett: on TBPL -> Tree Info...Clobberer
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  3323. # [22:44] <RyanVM> you can clobber whatever platform you want and retrigger the build on your push
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  3328. # [22:44] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: went ahead and filed the bug - new intermittent reftest failure that I think is from roc's recent patches
  3329. # [22:44] * WeirdAl supposes that's a big misuse of Promises
  3330. # [22:44] <Gijs> nemo: I mean, it's not that easy... what happens if you drag an item on the middle of the flexible space - insert another flexible space?
  3331. # [22:44] <nemo> Gijs: yep!
  3332. # [22:44] <nemo> Gijs: well
  3333. # [22:45] <nemo> Gijs: maaaaaybe
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  3335. # [22:45] <nemo> Gijs: left vs right is a simpler concept tho
  3336. # [22:45] <bhackett> RyanVM: thanks
  3337. # [22:45] <nsm> WeirdAl: how would it do that?
  3338. # [22:45] <Gijs> nemo: well, hence "not easy"
  3339. # [22:45] <nemo> Gijs: that level of division might not be worth it
  3340. # [22:45] <Gijs> nemo: anyhow, that sounds like an enhancement bug you could file
  3341. # [22:45] <Gijs> well, is one level worth it? :)
  3342. # [22:45] <nemo> Gijs: "restore flexible space" ? :)
  3343. # [22:45] <Gijs> it's all arguable
  3344. # [22:45] <Gijs> file the bug
  3345. # [22:45] <Gijs> No
  3346. # [22:45] <seth> weird... can't pull from inbound
  3347. # [22:45] <nemo> Gijs: well. it is if there's a huge amount of whitespace
  3348. # [22:45] <nsm> WeirdAl: at least in the new spec, since the promise resolve/reject functions are encapsulated in the callback passed to the promise ctor, that sort of misuse isn't possible
  3349. # [22:45] <nemo> which there certainly is with the menu bar
  3350. # [22:45] <WeirdAl> nsm: ah, excellent
  3351. # [22:45] <Gijs> "Automatically insert/remove flexible spaces to allow adding items at the far end of a toolbar"
  3352. # [22:45] <nemo> I'd like to keep those quick click icons on the right, not left with the text
  3353. # [22:46] <nemo> and I can't do that :-/
  3354. # [22:46] <Gijs> or something to that effect
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  3356. # [22:46] <Gijs> yeah, not without an add-on, no. Sorry.
  3357. # [22:46] <nemo> Gijs: yeah, something like that. and add "color: black" to the Restore Defaults button
  3358. # [22:46] <Gijs> nemo: those are 2 separate bugs
  3359. # [22:46] <mbrubeck> wooo 940,000 bugs....
  3360. # [22:46] <Gijs> but please file both
  3361. # [22:46] <nemo> http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/color
  3362. # [22:47] <WeirdAl> mbrubeck: 40% beer time?
  3363. # [22:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d954a7ebe5ec - Philipp Kewisch - Bug 927073 - Binary compatibility broken for maintenance releases due to strict version-script. r=glandium, a=lsblakk
  3364. # [22:47] <mbrubeck> WeirdAl: Man, and I thought this 9% beer was strong...
  3365. # [22:47] <WeirdAl> :p
  3366. # [22:47] <RyanVM> Waldo: how goes that esr24 backport patch? :)
  3367. # [22:48] <Waldo> uh
  3368. # [22:48] <nemo> Gijs: don't see an Australis category under Firefox?
  3369. # [22:48] <nemo> Gijs: where should these go?
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  3371. # [22:48] <Gijs> nemo: file the color thing under Firefox > Theme
  3372. # [22:48] <nemo> huh...
  3373. # [22:48] <Waldo> RyanVM: for which bug again? 937k?
  3374. # [22:48] <Gijs> nemo: the automatic spacer insertion under Firefox > Toolbars and Customization
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  3376. # [22:48] <Waldo> or 934k, or whichever number
  3377. # [22:48] * Waldo has too many things in the air right now
  3378. # [22:48] <RyanVM> Waldo: the one you're needinfo'ed on
  3379. # [22:48] <WeirdAl> nsm thanks for your time... going to lunch now
  3380. # [22:48] <RyanVM> 919k
  3381. # [22:48] <Waldo> and not enough needinfos generally
  3382. # [22:48] <Gijs> nemo: it's a theme bug that we're not setting the right color (on Linux)
  3383. # [22:48] <nsm> WeirdAl: no problem, happy to help if you have more questions
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  3386. # [22:49] <Waldo> but I guess there's one there, so ^-^
  3387. # [22:49] <Waldo> RyanVM: I have a top man working on it right now
  3388. # [22:49] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor/ryanVM: those xpcshell oranges on inbound are sworkman's fault, yes?
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  3390. # [22:50] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: you're asking the guy who already told you he closed his inbound tab :P
  3391. # [22:50] <nemo> Gijs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=940009
  3392. # [22:50] <RyanVM> looking
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  3394. # [22:51] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: well that's annoying
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  3396. # [22:51] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: certainly seems more likely than wchem
  3397. # [22:51] <RyanVM> wchen*
  3398. # [22:52] <KWierso|sheriffduty> RyanVM: all of them out since neither push ran osx?
  3399. # [22:52] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: might as well, though I'd wager bug 938803 being the culprit
  3400. # [22:52] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: Is there anything special I need to do to get PGO builds for a try run? I tried clicking the button on self serve
  3401. # [22:52] <mattwoodrow> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=70dd9b3af195
  3402. # [22:53] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: yes, you need to manually add it to the config
  3403. # [22:53] <mattwoodrow> :(
  3404. # [22:53] <RyanVM> you can't trigger them through self-serve
  3405. # [22:53] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryChooser#What_if_I_want_PGO_for_my_build
  3406. # [22:53] <mattwoodrow> why is there a button!
  3407. # [22:53] <mattwoodrow> but thanks
  3408. # [22:53] <RyanVM> because buildapi doesn't know the difference between Try and any other random tree where it does work
  3409. # [22:54] <mattwoodrow> oh
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  3411. # [22:54] <wchen> RyanVM: I have a previous try run that is green, I don't think it's me.
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  3413. # [22:54] <RyanVM> wchen: sounds unanimous then :P
  3414. # [22:55] <RyanVM> wchen: green on osx too?
  3415. # [22:55] <wchen> yeah, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=d5d48636b85e
  3416. # [22:55] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: well ain't that something - 10.6 and 10.8 only
  3417. # [22:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48ea769d4745 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 1431d2e9c5f7 (bug 938803)
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  3419. # [22:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0036226230f1 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 1ac4f1a35bd8 (bug 923458) for xpcshell bustage on a CLOSED TREE
  3420. # [22:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c20fdbecf69e - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset dba5cd88962a (bug 938803)
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  3422. # [22:56] <@njn> gkw: valgrind-on-TBPL is getting the right flags again! :)
  3423. # [22:56] <@njn> gkw: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=934542#c22
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  3425. # [22:58] <nemo> Gijs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=940012
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  3427. # [23:01] <shu> ted: ping
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  3430. # [23:02] <decoder> bsmedberg: ping
  3431. # [23:02] <@bsmedberg> decoder: pong
  3432. # [23:02] <decoder> bsmedberg: there is no analysis
  3433. # [23:02] <decoder> tsan is a runtime checker
  3434. # [23:02] <decoder> you are right that the thread should be using 0
  3435. # [23:02] <decoder> but it *is* not
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  3437. # [23:03] <decoder> i dont know what the compiler is doing, but the thread is reading the memory.
  3438. # [23:03] <@bsmedberg> decoder: then there is a compiler bug, but we know that it's harmless since we're not doing anything with the value
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  3440. # [23:03] <jorendorff> gps++ for bug 939367
  3441. # [23:03] <decoder> bsmedberg: yes. my question was more like, can we prevent this sort of (harmless) reordering, to avoid this showing up on tsan
  3442. # [23:03] <decoder> froydnj: ^^
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  3454. # [23:07] <jorendorff> Waldo: hey, what transition work is actually involved in this "put the documentation into the tree" idea?
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  3458. # [23:07] <shu> decoder: ping
  3459. # [23:08] <Waldo> jorendorff: copypasta from the existing MDN pages into suitable code comments, doc comments, whatever the inputs are to sphinx? (I don't know what the inputs are, I just saw gps's post from a month ago saying a tree-generated system existed and investigated no further)
  3460. # [23:08] <Waldo> copypasta plus reformatting however
  3461. # [23:08] <decoder> shu: pong
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  3468. # [23:09] <shu> decoder: when do you plan on landing using low-mem across the board for ASan?
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  3471. # [23:11] <jorendorff> Waldo: ok, well, i'm happy to help once it's a little clearer what the input needs to look like and where the output goes
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  3474. # [23:11] <@bsmedberg> decoder: when you say that it's a runtime checker, what does that mean? How does it do the checking?
  3475. # [23:11] <gps> Waldo: one of the benefits of Sphinx is it will issue warnings when references disappear, etc
  3476. # [23:11] <gkw> njn: \o/
  3477. # [23:12] <gps> for Python, you can also have it test in-line examples
  3478. # [23:12] <gps> although if we did that, we'd want doc generation as part of the build
  3479. # [23:12] <Waldo> we don't have too much python in our code, tho ;-)
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  3481. # [23:12] <gps> Waldo: we could write an extension to have it test other languages :)
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  3486. # [23:13] <Waldo> gps: I am now pondering recursion
  3487. # [23:13] <Waldo> ;-)
  3488. # [23:13] <Waldo> guessing many of our examples/whatever would be C++, tho
  3489. # [23:14] <jorendorff> where is process_install_manifest defined?
  3490. # [23:14] <Waldo> not sure you want to throw that into the mix, necessarily, here, ish
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  3492. # [23:14] <gps> jorendorff: python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/process_install_manifest.py
  3493. # [23:14] <jorendorff> thanks!
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  3495. # [23:15] <jorendorff> gps: ok, what does it do
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  3499. # [23:16] <jorendorff> gps: I'm trying to figure out how to tell someone which headers in js/src are public (i.e. what's installed if you do `make install`)
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  3503. # [23:17] <gps> jorendorff: files defined in EXPORTS?
  3504. # [23:17] <gps> plus whatever js/src/Makefile.in decides to install
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  3506. # [23:18] <jorendorff> gps: EXPORTS doesn't appear to be set in js/src/Makefile.in
  3507. # [23:18] <gps> jorendorff: moz.build
  3508. # [23:18] <jorendorff> gps: great
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  3516. # [23:20] <@bsmedberg> froydnj: decoder: CMOV craziness details in the bug, if you believe random stuff I found on the internet
  3517. # [23:20] <jorendorff> glandium: Is it true that everyone who ever includes js/public/Assertions.h has necessarily already automatically included js-config.h ?
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  3519. # [23:21] <jorendorff> glandium: sorry, make that js/public/Vector.h
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  3521. # [23:22] <TheOne> anyone an idea why I get the "check for add-on compatibility" dialog on every aurora update?
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  3526. # [23:24] <gps> man, Australis just crapped all over the graph view of repo history. we should rewrite history before landing large merges like that
  3527. # [23:25] <decoder> bsmedberg: ill ping the tsan devs and ask them for their opinion
  3528. # [23:25] <@bsmedberg> I... disagree
  3529. # [23:25] <@bsmedberg> merges are merges, we should be happy about that
  3530. # [23:25] <jorendorff> amen
  3531. # [23:25] <@bsmedberg> decoder: ok thanks
  3532. # [23:25] <gps> the repo history should be linear if we have a choice in the matter
  3533. # [23:25] <jorendorff> still disagree :)
  3534. # [23:25] <gps> nobody is going to bisect into all those intermediate merge points
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  3536. # [23:26] <gps> we can preserve the original history in some tree somewhere. leave it out of mainline
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  3538. # [23:26] <@bsmedberg> This is a case where the repo history is in fact branched
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  3540. # [23:26] <@bsmedberg> there was a long-lived permanent repository
  3541. # [23:26] <gps> yes. and we can squash all the merge commits
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  3543. # [23:26] <@bsmedberg> but shouldn't
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  3545. # [23:27] <gps> we can agree to disagree. i'm just saying i see little value in having the full merge history in mainline. it's not very relevant except for code archeology. and that has limited use IMO
  3546. # [23:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d19148a6f7eb - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 924928 - Update general Yahoo! search engine icon. r=mfinkle, a=lsblakk
  3547. # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a14c36a25b92 - Makoto Kato - Bug 935499. r=honzab, a=lsblakk
  3548. # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7fed679f0661 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 935903 - Unmark shared script data at start of GC. r=billm, a=lsblakk
  3549. # [23:28] <gps> i think people are afraid of rebasing in general because VCS tools generally suck with distributed rebasing
  3550. # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2a1f51ff962b - Paul Rouget - Bug 935229 - Open unix socket with 666 permissions instead of 600. r=past, a=lsblakk
  3551. # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/55acf28131b7 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 938341. r=smaug, a=abillings
  3552. # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/37fd15101968 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 936670 - Position text rendered runs by the first non-trimmed character in the run. r=longsonr, a=lsblakk
  3553. # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2bcc119c46d9 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 934860 - Part 6: Add a pref to disable single rect painting and disable it for now for causing TART regressions. r=jrmuziel, a=lsblakk
  3554. # [23:28] <gps> i think once distributed rebase is implemented properly, people will have a different view on merges in history
  3555. # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b96a447ece63 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 932501 - Drop nextElementSibling/previousElementSibling from DocumentType. r=smaug, a=lsblakk
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  3557. # [23:29] <Unfocused> gps: uh, kinda important for anyone working on firefox frontend
  3558. # [23:29] <@bsmedberg> code archaeology is a pretty essential tool
  3559. # [23:29] <gaston> lsblakk: are you going to land att from bug 939498 too or i should do it ?
  3560. # [23:29] <tbsaunde> disagree, why wouldn't you want to keep the actual history
  3561. # [23:29] <gps> https://gps.pastebin.mozilla.org/3630984 ewww
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  3563. # [23:30] <gps> I argue you care about the original patch series. the merge commits, not so much
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  3567. # [23:30] <gps> i would have preferred a long-running linear branch merged into m-c. not this atrocity with 50+ parallel branches with ongoing merges
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  3569. # [23:31] <tbsaunde> other than having a complicated graph (but who cares) why do you care?
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  3571. # [23:32] <gps> complicated graphs impact some repo operations in terms of perf and usability
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  3573. # [23:32] <gps> e.g. graph view is nearly useless now
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  3575. # [23:32] <gps> bisects are hard
  3576. # [23:32] <gps> it makes the history harder to understand
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  3578. # [23:32] <tbsaunde> you bisect tool should deal with merges better then
  3579. # [23:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/378bce2d6c59 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 937972 - Fix crashes for Windows Direct2D users that have Azure disabled. r=Bas, a=lsblakk
  3580. # [23:33] <gps> and it does. i wrote a bisect that bisects against push boundaries, not commits :)
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  3586. # [23:35] <jorendorff> My Nightly profile no longer installs updates until I go to Nightly -> About Nightly.
  3587. # [23:35] <jorendorff> This has got to be a bug, right?
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  3589. # [23:36] <froydnj> gps: "distributed rebase"?
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  3591. # [23:36] <@bsmedberg> jorendorff: when you say "installs" what do you mean exactly?
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  3594. # [23:36] <jorendorff> bsmedberg: I mean it doesn't even download them
  3595. # [23:37] <jorendorff> bsmedberg: when i open the About dialog, it *starts* downloading the latest. Like right now, I just opened the About dialog, and it just downloaded one.
  3596. # [23:37] <gps> froydnj: people have an aversion to rebasing because of the "recover from force push" problem
  3597. # [23:37] <jorendorff> bsmedberg: the next time I restart it'll install it.
  3598. # [23:37] <gps> the UI for it is teh crap
  3599. # [23:37] <gps> UX
  3600. # [23:37] <@bsmedberg> jorendorff: how old was your prior build? It only checks once a day.
  3601. # [23:37] <ckitching> Would somebody mind cancelling: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=728ac73eeda1 for me? Still only got publickey authentication...
  3602. # [23:37] <markh> jorendorff: I have the same issue on my laptop which tends to be put to sleep alot after being awake for a very short time - but I can't actually repro it well enough to file a meaningful bug. I did find some other bugs for that issue though when I looked
  3603. # [23:37] <jorendorff> bsmedberg: previous build was from november 8
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  3605. # [23:37] <@bsmedberg> hrm
  3606. # [23:37] <@bsmedberg> jorendorff: sounds interesting, yeah
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  3609. # [23:38] <jorendorff> bsmedberg: i'm interested in diagnosing it, but not sure where to begin.
  3610. # [23:38] <markh> no problem on my desktop, so I've *guessed* it had something to do with backing off on the laptop due to the regular sleeps
  3611. # [23:39] <@bsmedberg> jorendorff: there's a way to turn on update logging... rstrong knows most, maybe bbondy also
  3612. # [23:39] <markh> and of course, every time I've tried to look at it deeply, it worked perfectly :(
  3613. # [23:40] <markh> I am still getting UAC prompts, which I'm surprised isn't a P1 bug!
  3614. # [23:40] <gps> bsmedberg: so I'm working on crash reporter event logging foo. can I call NS_GetSpecialDirectory() from the breakpad exception handler callback or is it not safe?
  3615. # [23:40] <@bsmedberg> no, certainly not
  3616. # [23:40] <@bsmedberg> almost nothing is safe
  3617. # [23:40] <gps> bsmedberg: a superset of that question is "what can I do from the breakpad exception handler callback?"
  3618. # [23:40] <@bsmedberg> allocating memory is not safe, even
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  3621. # [23:41] <gps> ok. so any values I need to query should be stored prior to crash time
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  3623. # [23:41] <@bsmedberg> yes
  3624. # [23:41] <RyanVM> ckitching: done
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  3626. # [23:41] <@njn> froydnj, gkw: looks like all those valgrind-on-tbpl leaks have maybe 5 distinct root causes: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3631039
  3627. # [23:41] <@njn> froydnj, gkw: SpiderMonkey ain't behaving nicely
  3628. # [23:41] <@bsmedberg> yuck
  3629. # [23:42] <@bsmedberg> those can be hard to debug
  3630. # [23:42] <gps> bsmedberg: the other issue is events produced before profile activation
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  3632. # [23:42] <gps> i was thinking we'd write events to 2 locations: 1) Somewhere in UAppData 2) Somewhere in profile
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  3635. # [23:42] <@bsmedberg> gps: I'm happy enough for those to not be recorded until the next normal startup, and then whatever profile that is can slurp them up
  3636. # [23:42] <gps> and events from UAppData would get consolidated into the profile from next run
  3637. # [23:42] <ckitching> Ta.
  3638. # [23:42] <@bsmedberg> but double-writing might work too
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  3642. # [23:43] <gps> bsmedberg: not sure how we'd double write
  3643. # [23:43] <gps> if we crash during startup we need to write an event somewhere
  3644. # [23:43] <gps> i was thinking we'd just set an environment variable telling the crash reporter client where to write events
  3645. # [23:43] * joduinn-mtg is now known as joduinn
  3646. # [23:43] <gps> and populate that variable from xre startup
  3647. # [23:43] <@bsmedberg> we already have that
  3648. # [23:44] <@njn> froydnj, gkw: oh, and that omits the xpc::CreateGlobalObject one, which is the worst
  3649. # [23:44] <@bsmedberg> gps: Get/SetMinidumpPath in nsExceptionHandler.h
  3650. # [23:44] <gps> right. but we're using uappdata. i was hoping to avoid uappdata as much as possible
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  3653. # [23:44] <gps> i didn't want to bloat scope to cover "generate minidumps in profile directory [not uappdata]"
  3654. # [23:45] <@bsmedberg> yeah, ok
  3655. # [23:45] <@bsmedberg> you can just make another API next to that one, for now
  3656. # [23:45] <@bsmedberg> ideally I'd like minidumps to be in the profile dir also
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  3658. # [23:45] <@bsmedberg> but scope creep is bad
  3659. # [23:45] <gps> my thoughts exactly
  3660. # [23:46] <gps> bsmedberg: OK. I think the rest we can tease out during review
  3661. # [23:46] <@njn> well here's something you don't see every day:
  3662. # [23:46] <@ehsan> froydnj: my sympathies on the new peership ;)
  3663. # [23:46] <@njn> (void) new XPCWrappedNativeScope(cx, global);
  3664. # [23:46] <@ehsan> (peerdom?)
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  3667. # [23:47] <froydnj> njn: I think the CreateGlobalObject was actually turning up in dmd mochitest b-c logging
  3668. # [23:47] <@njn> froydnj: the constructor puts |this| on some list, AFAICT, but valgrind claims something in that function is leaking badly
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  3670. # [23:48] <@njn> froydnj: and yes, I've seen it in DMD output too, recently
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  3678. # [23:51] <decoder> shu: once it has r+
  3679. # [23:51] <decoder> shu: the review is still pending
  3680. # [23:51] <@njn> froydnj: though the stack indicates |operator new[]| is involved, which points the finger at AllocateProtoAndIfaceCache, possibly
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  3683. # [23:52] <@njn> froydnj: and a local run has a slightly better stack trace, which indicates that AllocateProtoAndIfaceCache is leaking
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  3687. # [23:53] <@njn> bz (or anyone else): where is the ProtoAndIfaceCache freed?
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  3691. # [23:53] <bz> njn: checking
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  3693. # [23:54] <bz> njn: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/bindings/BindingUtils.h#310
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  3695. # [23:54] <bz> njn: and its various callers
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  3697. # [23:54] <@njn> bz: valgrind claims we're leaking that cache frequently
  3698. # [23:54] <bz> njn: hmm. What's the allocation stack?
  3699. # [23:54] <shu> decoder: okay, i'm waiting on ted for an r? as well incidentally
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  3702. # [23:55] <@njn> bz: there are many, but here's one just from starting the browser and immediately quitting:
  3703. # [23:55] <@njn> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3631085
  3704. # [23:55] <bz> hrm
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  3707. # [23:56] <bz> Let me dig, ok
  3708. # [23:56] <bz> ?
  3709. # [23:56] <@njn> bz: thanks!
  3710. # [23:56] <@njn> bz: this is showing up very frequently on valgrind-tbpl runs, too
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  3712. # [23:57] <bz> nsXPConnect::InitClassesWithNewWrappedGlobal
  3713. # [23:57] <bz> hmm
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  3716. # [23:58] <@njn> bz: not sure if it's related, but valgrind claims lots of leaks via js::GlobalObject::initFunctionAndObjectClasses(), too
  3717. # [23:58] <bz> That _should_ go through WrappedNativeFinalize
  3718. # [23:58] <@njn> (those don't involve CreateGlobalObject, but it sounds kind of similar)
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  3721. # [23:59] <gps> i'm writing my first C++ for Gecko and I can't figure out how strings work. are there decent docs explaining this?
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  3723. # [23:59] <bz> gps: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla_internal_string_guide ?
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  3725. # [23:59] <bz> njn: So I would _think_ stuff coming through mozJSComponentLoader::PrepareObjectForLocation
  3726. # [23:59] <gps> bz: that seems helpful. thanks
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