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- # Session Start: Mon Nov 18 00:00:00 2013
- # Session Ident: #developers
- # [00:00] <@njn> shu: ah
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- # [00:00] <@njn> shu: ok
- # [00:01] <shu> njn: but yeah, it's mainly the testing/ part i wanted someone to look over
- # [00:01] <@njn> shu: yeah, sorry
- # [00:01] <@njn> shu: it all looks plausible, and if it works on try it's probably ok...
- # [00:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f05b7cf7d11 - Brian Hackett - Bug 936403 - Make sure undefined global properties are tracked when generating baseline ICs, r=jandem.
- # [00:02] <shu> njn: seems to :) https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=21f3282d636e
- # [00:02] <@njn> shu: but I'd ask ted, or look at hg logs for similar code to see who else might know about that stuff
- # [00:02] <shu> njn: okay, thanks
- # [00:02] <glandium> why can't mercurial deal with simple merges, dammit?
- # [00:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1fe0f523e644 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 937540 part 5 - Use placement new syntax for MIR instructions. r=bhackett
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- # [00:09] <mccr8> it might be nice if those memory numbers were printed out in MB instead of bytes, or if there were commas or something
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- # [00:11] <shu> mccr8: i'm working on the visualizer right now
- # [00:11] <mccr8> shu: great!
- # [00:12] <shu> mainly wrestling with css :)
- # [00:12] <shu> i'm not web designer
- # [00:12] <shu> no*
- # [00:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56791576d790 - Robert Longson - Bug 939445 - general.appname.override has stopped working. r=smaug
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- # [00:20] <@njn> shu: toolkit/components/aboutmemory/content/aboutMemory.js's formatInt() and formatBytes() may be useful
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- # [00:20] <philor> somebody's about to lose his OS X privileges
- # [00:20] <bz_away> grrr
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- # [00:25] <shu> njn: good to know
- # [00:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f09ec38cd808 - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 930481 - Disable test_dataChannel_basicAudioVideo.html on OS X for far too frequent timeouts taking out the entire suite
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- # [00:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/095e5b582f53 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 916143 - Try to fix test_movement_by_words.html on Win8 PGO with a waitForFocus
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- # [00:38] <jesup> philor: ping
- # [00:38] <philor> jesup: pong
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- # [00:39] <jesup> I'm looking at bug 930481. The comment I made in the bug was correct at the time (referencing the previous TBPL star - that one does appear to be a dup, that then caused follow-on problems in webrtc tests). However, the later tbpl reports (that generally started right about that time) do not appear to be dups of the other bug.
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- # [00:40] <philor> jesup: welcome to us, give us a test name and a vaguely similar symptom, we'll pile on with everything we've got :)
- # [00:40] <jesup> I started looking at them in detail earlier today. webrtc 3.43 landed that day, but I think the new reports started before that landed - I'm verifying. Some other changes to sipcc landed around the same time
- # [00:41] <philor> well, strike that, we don't actually insist on a similar symptom, just the same test name, even if it's not the same test
- # [00:41] <jesup> Looks like there was an existing dup causing spurious timeouts, then something caused frequent timeouts to start
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- # [00:41] <philor> mmm, xpcshell bustage on aurora
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- # [00:41] <jesup> 3.43 would be the #1 suspect if I can prove they started after it
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- # [00:42] <jesup> which would be unfortunate as that would mean "somewhere in this 4MB patch there's a low-frequency deadlock"
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- # [00:47] <jesup> Aha. The first for-sure instance of the deadlock/etc was 7 pushes *before* I landed 3.43! Phew! (not that I still don't have to track it down, but this makes it a lot easier)
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- # [00:50] <jesup> and I landed 4 hours after that
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- # [00:51] <jesup> This is bug 930481 comment 4 - the star after the one I marked as a dup of the DOM issue.
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- # [00:56] <@njn> shu, philor, glandium: I've attempted another OOM-based tree closure post-mortem, at https://etherpad.mozilla.org/LPgqYuvFJn
- # [00:56] <@njn> I feel much less happy about this one, mostly because I don't actually understand what led to the trees being reopened, and if we've actually fixed the problem or just papered over it
- # [00:56] <shu> hmm... how come offsetLength always returns 0 for this div, yet the inspector shows the actual value
- # [00:57] <shu> njn: afaict, we reopened without landing any fixes that we know to directly affect the closures
- # [00:57] <@njn> shu: what it smaug's "GC/CC more often" patch that made the tests pass more often?
- # [00:57] <mccr8> except the backout of shu's patch. ;)
- # [00:57] <mccr8> njn: after every test, we GC and CC, or something liek that
- # [00:57] <@njn> shu, mccr8: if you can add to the etherpad, that'd be great
- # [00:58] <mccr8> that fixed the M2 shutdown test, by clearing out the content stuff
- # [00:58] <mccr8> the M2 thing wasn't super frequent though. it was really bc that was ultra orange.
- # [00:58] <@njn> mccr8: put it in the etherpad, plz
- # [00:58] <@njn> :)
- # [00:58] <mccr8> I am
- # [00:59] <philor> "post-mortem: we mortemed shu"
- # [00:59] <shu> :(
- # [00:59] <@njn> what was shu's patch that was backed out?
- # [00:59] <philor> stop doing GC every time we switch debugging mode
- # [01:00] <mccr8> he basically unpapered over some problems. ;)
- # [01:00] <@njn> so we backed that out, and then papered over more with smaug's patch?
- # [01:00] <@njn> shu: what was the motivation for your patch?
- # [01:00] <@njn> shu: eh, I'll let you answer in the etherpad :)
- # [01:01] <mccr8> well, smaug's patch isn't really a papering over. the GC and CC don't deal with opening and closing pages very rapidly. so we make them run more.
- # [01:01] <mccr8> though smaug is going to back that out, and do a version that just runs extra GC/CC at shutdown
- # [01:01] <@njn> shu: is this toggle when we enter/leave the JS debugger?
- # [01:01] <mccr8> this is analagous to how AWSY waits 10 seconds on shutdown before measuring
- # [01:01] <@njn> mccr8: ok
- # [01:02] <mccr8> njn: it was making firebug extremely slow when you changed tabs or something. shu changed it so we just discarded jit code.
- # [01:02] <@njn> mccr8: the fact that more gc/cc helped is at odds with the idea that vmem fragmentation is the problem
- # [01:02] <shu> njn: mccr8's correct
- # [01:02] <@njn> shu: ok
- # [01:03] <mccr8> njn: gc/cc helped with M2, but not bc particularly, as far as I'm aware.
- # [01:03] <shu> njn: the current GC is a hack and a performance problem, and was put in originally to remove out-of-date jitcode, as debugMode changes assumptions
- # [01:03] <@njn> mccr8: ok
- # [01:04] <@njn> mccr8: so M2 doesn't look like actual leaks, just the test is kinda unrealistic so lots of garbage builds up?
- # [01:04] <shu> njn: this is particularly bad for firebug because firebug is compartment oblivious, and does the toggle for *every compartment*
- # [01:04] <shu> njn: but even for our builtin tools, that GC is a performance problem that we should remove
- # [01:04] <@njn> shu: fair enough
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- # [01:05] <@njn> shu: I wasn't meaning to question your motivation, just understand it :)
- # [01:05] <mccr8> njn: the M2 problem is only during shutdown, so when we go right from running a bunch of pages into shutdown, we end up cleaning up a bunch of pages, plus doing the stuff for shutdown, so the graph gets really big.
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- # [01:05] <@njn> mccr8: and that's the CC failure one?
- # [01:05] <philor> M2 is *mostly* during shutdown
- # [01:05] <mccr8> njn: the M2 CC failure one. there was another CC failure in bc, in the test immediately before the zip reader one
- # [01:06] <shu> njn: sorry, was pre-empting "could just leave the GC in" :)
- # [01:06] <shu> njn: on top of it this is all blocking my efforts of making the debugger jit-aware :(
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- # [01:06] <@njn> shu: firebug uses jsd, too :(
- # [01:07] <shu> njn: yeah, luckily the fixes aren't jsd specific
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- # [01:15] <mccr8> njn: BC was so much more orange than M2, that I spent most of my time looking at that, so it isn't as clear what is going on in M2, aside from one test suite which wrecks the virtual address space for some reason
- # [01:15] <mccr8> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=939369
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- # [01:23] <NeilAway> what are the rules about changing new strings? l10n doesn't really apply until uplift, or do localisers watch trunk too?
- # [01:24] <glandium> NeilAway: some locales do watch trunk
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- # [01:28] <briansmith> I am on the mozilla-aurora bustage. Needs a test-only fix uplifted
- # [01:28] <shu> mccr8: i have a patch for BC memory stats already, btw
- # [01:28] <mccr8> shu: ah cool
- # [01:29] <shu> mccr8: waiting on ted or someone who knows harnesses to review
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- # [01:29] <shu> njn: do you want ASan on the edge of OOM included in the post-mortem?
- # [01:29] <shu> njn: not strictly related
- # [01:30] <mccr8> I guess if that was the only problem the sheriffs might have just hidden ASAN instead of closing the tree.
- # [01:30] <@njn> shu: I don't know... if it's somewhat related, perhaps?
- # [01:30] <mccr8> I started putting some stuff about that in there but maybe it could be removed...
- # [01:30] <shu> mccr8: it didn't figure into this closure
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- # [01:30] <mccr8> ah ok
- # [01:30] <shu> mccr8: it's just another OOM problem
- # [01:30] <mccr8> yeah
- # [01:30] <shu> mccr8: wlel it's intermittent, but much more intermittent :)
- # [01:30] <mccr8> shu: I removed the ASAN stuff
- # [01:30] <shu> ok
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- # [01:31] <@njn> fair enough
- # [01:31] <@njn> shu: what will your visualizer do?
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- # [01:32] <shu> njn: something like http://rfrn.org/~shu/mvv/viewer.html
- # [01:32] <shu> njn: you paste in a TBPL full .txt.gz log, it gives you a timeline
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- # [01:32] <@njn> shu: nice
- # [01:33] <briansmith> https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/ca2aaf705a4d
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- # [01:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2e964f10799 - Bas Schouten - Bug 939049 - Part 2: Add generic ComputeLength code for backends with no such functionality. r=jrmuizel
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- # [01:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b08b9d5c1b7 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 939601 - Refactor current thread assert into helper. r=cpearce
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- # [02:29] <philor> an extension whose tests we wouldn't have to run?
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- # [02:42] <@njn> glandium: what does the "Number of Constructors" thingy measure, exactly? Is it static constructors?
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- # [02:42] <@njn> glandium: as in, "Regression: Mozilla-Inbound - Number of Constructors - CentOS release 5 (Final) - 3.17% increase"
- # [02:43] <glandium> njn: the number of static initializer functions generated by the compiler, which is closely related to the number of static constructors
- # [02:43] <@njn> glandium: could using Atomic<> in PLDHashTable cause an increase?
- # [02:44] <glandium> njn: depends if a) PLDHashTable doesn't already imply a static constructor b) Atomic<> needs a static constructor c) there's a PLDHashTable global instance
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- # [02:45] <@njn> glandium: (a) PLDHashTable lacks a constructor
- # [02:46] <@njn> (b) Atomic<> has a zero-arg ctor that does nothing
- # [02:46] <glandium> njn: are all its member variable types lacking a constructor
- # [02:46] <glandium> it==PLDHashTable
- # [02:46] <@njn> (c) we have several global PLDHashTable vars
- # [02:47] <glandium> njn: so b and c would put the balance on a yes
- # [02:47] <glandium> depends on a
- # [02:47] <@njn> glandium: wait, the zero-arg ctor does init a member
- # [02:47] <@njn> MOZ_CONSTEXPR AtomicBase() : mValue() {}
- # [02:49] <@njn> glandium: so I think I changed PLDHashTable from POD to non-POD
- # [02:49] <glandium> probably
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- # [02:50] <@njn> dammit
- # [02:50] <@njn> glandium: thanks
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- # [02:54] <glandium> njn: mmmmm that constructor has MOZ_CONSTEXPR
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- # [02:55] <glandium> MOZ_CONSTEXPR /should/ make the compiler avoid the static initializer
- # [02:56] <shu> njn: ping
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- # [02:56] <shu> philor: njn: http://people.mozilla.org/~sguo/mochimem/
- # [02:57] <shu> here's a link for a recent m-c M2 log http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-central-win32-debug/1384728816/mozilla-central_win7-ix-debug_test-mochitest-2-bm70-tests1-windows-build30.txt.gz
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- # [03:01] <philor> shu: at least http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-macosx64-debug/1384729240/mozilla-inbound_snowleopard-debug_test-mochitest-3-bm76-tests1-macosx-build1598.txt.gz is untroubled by all that jumping around
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- # [03:01] <philor> "start out using ALL THE MEMORY and just keep using it"
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- # [03:03] <glandium> shu: nice visualization
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- # [03:04] <shu> philor: that's just vsize, we don't dump resident size right now, waiting on a review for that patch
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- # [03:04] <shu> philor: every platform should support vsize, but not every supports heapAllocated (which is what we're dumping right now)
- # [03:04] <shu> philor: err, every platform should support vsize + resident
- # [03:04] <shu> glandium: thanks
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- # [03:05] <philor> shu: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-macosx64-debug/1384735777/mozilla-inbound_lion-debug_test-mochitest-4-bm79-tests1-macosx-build1672.txt.gz makes a cute graph :)
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- # [03:05] <shu> philor: hahaa what is going on there
- # [03:05] <shu> oh, asmjs
- # [03:05] <shu> so many tricks up its sleeve
- # [03:05] <philor> asmjs, meet memory, memory, meet... hey, memory, where did you go?
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- # [03:07] <shu> philor: anyways vsize won't tell us *too* much
- # [03:07] <shu> philor: like, ASan just have a constant 4096G or vsize or something ridiculous
- # [03:07] <shu> of vsize*
- # [03:08] <philor> yeah, it's specail
- # [03:08] <philor> and special
- # [03:10] <philor> jesup: so, when I disabled that test, I thought to myself, "am I just going to see https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30673329&tree=Mozilla-Inbound on the very next push?"
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- # [03:39] <bjacob> has anyone used the mediawiki-bugzilla extension to display a bugzilla search inside a wiki page?
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- # [04:23] <@gavin> ashish: bugzilla down?
- # [04:23] <@gavin> I'm getting "Service Unavailable"
- # [04:23] <@dolske> wfm, but I've been getting random failuers all day.
- # [04:24] <@gavin> I saw someone mention that earlier too
- # [04:25] <@gavin> oh, it's some cached host issue or something
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- # [04:25] <@gavin> [17 10:25:11] <philor> the lesson here is to completely take off the time during any maintenance window
- # [04:25] <@gavin> [17 10:25:28] <philor> that way you avoid having your browser still think bugzilla is in phx
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- # [04:27] <philor> apparently shift+reload works for most people, though I refuse to think about how that could be
- # [04:27] <@gavin> works for me too
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- # [06:11] <philor> njn: bug 886999, what branch are you seeing them on?
- # [06:12] <@njn> philor: IIRC, m-c a couple of days ago
- # [06:12] <@njn> philor: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=0a24baac0f31, the M1 mac 10.8 failures
- # [06:13] <@njn> philor: yeah, they look like that bug
- # [06:14] <philor> njn: they look like you regressing it; don't do that
- # [06:14] <@njn> philor: urk
- # [06:15] <philor> or more likely, uncovering the fact that it wasn't actually completely and correctly fixed
- # [06:16] <@njn> in which case, lucky me!
- # [06:18] <philor> we're lucky just to be able to work on Gecko
- # [06:19] <philor> that is absolutely, exactly and precisely where every bit of our luck ends
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- # [08:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d3a8f13aa66 - Landry Breuil - Bug 939504: Remove leftover <CanGC> template in !LITTLE_ENDIAN case after bug 928050 r=bhackett
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- # [09:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/faef54ec06cd - Matt Woodrow - Bug 923341 - Part 1: Add a gfxSurfaceDrawable constructor for a DrawTarget. r=seth
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- # [10:15] <Ms2ger> Or sicking, if you've got a lot of patience
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- # [12:29] <Ms2ger> jwatt, that's what you get for addressing comments :)
- # [12:29] <jwatt> Ms2ger: apparently :/
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- # [12:34] <mjrosenb> c++ objects on the stack declared as Foo bar; will have the default constructor called, right?
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- # [12:34] <Ms2ger> I hope so
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- # [12:46] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: good. and yes, the bug is somewhere else.
- # [12:47] <tbsaunde> edmorley: Bas 155112 f2e964f10799 belongs to some bug other than 939049
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- # [13:37] <jandem> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hm nvm maybe, it took 8 minutes but now i have 2 SM builds at least…
- # [13:37] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jandem: yeah
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- # [13:38] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> so looks ok so far
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- # [14:41] <Ms2ger> bjacob, it was :)
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- # [14:45] <froydnj> not any or much worse than usual
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- # [14:48] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> froydnj: seems we have a lot failures like bug 915184
- # [14:48] <froydnj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: all in the private browsing tests?
- # [14:48] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> not perma orange but seems more failures in the last days
- # [14:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> froydnj: yeah all in the same test - browser_save_private_link_perwindowpb.js
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- # [14:49] <froydnj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: oh, you mean it's failing several different ways, only one of which is tracked in that bug?
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- # [14:52] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> froydnj: oh was just meaning that this failures were a little more than in the past days
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- # [14:52] <froydnj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ah, ok
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- # [14:54] <decoder> ted: ping
- # [14:55] <glob> gaston, an important step was missed during the weekend's datacenter stuff, resulting in both clusters being active at the same time (a config which isn't supported)
- # [14:55] <glob> gaston, the database is being manually cleaned up
- # [14:56] <gaston> thx for the details
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- # [15:04] <clb> bbondy: around?
- # [15:04] <bbondy> clb: yep
- # [15:04] <clb> hey, whimboo pointed me to ping you
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- # [15:05] <bbondy> cool, what's up?
- # [15:05] <clb> let me just paste the few lines we chatted just a moment ago: http://pastebin.com/uN31NUe6
- # [15:05] <clb> I'm trying to solve that problem
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- # [15:06] <bbondy> so do you want command lines that will perform an update?
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- # [15:07] <clb> I don't necessarily need a command line to update, but just to make sure that all the browsers in the system running the tests will autonomously update and I don't have to attend to them
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- # [15:08] <clb> I have all the firefoxes set to "Automatically install updates" in the options menu, but that doesn't cause them to update, unless I go to Help->About Firefox menu
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- # [15:09] <bbondy> do you use the browsers regularly or not?
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- # [15:09] <bbondy> if you do they should update in the background as you use the browser
- # [15:09] <bbondy> maybe you could just start the browser and leave it open for a while
- # [15:09] <clb> they are launched several times every day
- # [15:09] <bbondy> that would ensure they get picked up
- # [15:10] <clb> and they're open for about 30 minutes to an hour at a time
- # [15:10] <bbondy> that should be enough, although right after release we sometimes don't push down the updates right away
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- # [15:10] <clb> also, on my laptop, the browser never updates itself, even though I use firefox for 10+ hours a day
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- # [15:10] <clb> I always have to go to About Firefox menu to trigger the update download
- # [15:10] <bbondy> they download pretty slow in the background, you can for example go here: C:\Users\bbondy\AppData\Local\Mozilla\updates and see if anything is being written
- # [15:10] <gcp> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711854
- # [15:10] <bbondy> it downloads, just really slow in the background
- # [15:11] <gcp> I've observed similar behavior.
- # [15:11] <bbondy> if the updte is being served
- # [15:12] <clb> I'm thinking that is not true, since I've used firefox since 21 or something on this laptop, and I've never seen an autoupdate come in, even when the browser is open each day for months
- # [15:12] <till> jwatt: ping
- # [15:12] <bbondy> ok try tweaking this to a small number
- # [15:12] <bbondy> app.update.download.backgroundInterval
- # [15:12] <bbondy> by default it is 10 minute
- # [15:12] <bbondy> minutes
- # [15:13] <bbondy> for I think each DOWNLOAD_CHUNK_SIZE = 300000; // bytes
- # [15:13] <clb> hmm default seems to be 60 on my system
- # [15:13] <clb> what happens if I do 0?
- # [15:13] <bbondy> not sure :)
- # [15:13] <clb> ok, let's do 1
- # [15:13] <bbondy> foreground updates use 0 though
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- # [15:14] <bbondy> ya you're right I have 60 too
- # [15:14] <bbondy> default for other apps if they don't explicitly override it is 600, default for firefox is 60
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- # [15:15] <jaws> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ping
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- # [15:16] <clb> also, related, do you know if there is a way to disable automatic download of update when I go to About Firefox?
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- # [15:18] <jaws> Tomcat|sheriffduty, RyanVM: we are planning on merging from ux to m-c today and would like to close m-c around the time that we start doing the merge
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- # [15:18] <RyanVM> when is "today" ?
- # [15:18] <jaws> how early before the merge takes place should we close m-c?
- # [15:18] <RyanVM> as in, now would be a great time before the west coast wakes up
- # [15:18] <jaws> RyanVM: i'm thinking 8am PST
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- # [15:19] <jaws> RyanVM: or do you think 8am PST is too late for that? he
- # [15:19] <RyanVM> ah, just in time for the Monday crush
- # [15:19] <jaws> heh*
- # [15:19] <RyanVM> especially with a long closure last week
- # [15:19] <RyanVM> and everyone wanting to push their stuff
- # [15:19] <RyanVM> jaws: I think it would be much better to get it merged ASAP before the west coast work day starts
- # [15:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
- # [15:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jaws: ok let me now and i will close m-c for you to merge
- # [15:20] <RyanVM> jaws: do you have m-c tip merged to UX already?
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- # [15:20] <jaws> RyanVM: no
- # [15:20] <jaws> RyanVM: oh wait
- # [15:20] <RyanVM> looks like Gijs did, actually
- # [15:20] <jaws> i read that wrong
- # [15:20] <jaws> sorry, i thought you meant the other direction
- # [15:20] <RyanVM> so you've got some pending builds/tests on UX still
- # [15:20] <jaws> yeah
- # [15:21] <jaws> would be good to wait for those to finish first
- # [15:21] <jaws> Tomcat|sheriffduty: we should also close fx-team too
- # [15:21] <RyanVM> and inbound
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- # [15:22] <Gijs> Unfortunately it's going to be 8am PST before the first debug bc tests finish
- # [15:22] <bbondy> clb: I think if you set the pref to never update, but that turns it off in general too
- # [15:22] <RyanVM> ugh, is UX at the same priority level for jobs as the project branches?
- # [15:22] <RyanVM> i.e. dead last?
- # [15:22] <Gijs> I don't know.
- # [15:22] <jaws> idk
- # [15:23] * RyanVM wouldn't expect ot see many pending jobs this time of day
- # [15:23] <Gijs> I mean, no use crying over spilt milk
- # [15:23] <Gijs> it's too late to fix that now
- # [15:23] <Gijs> the dbg jobs are running on Linux and OS X, and builds are running on Windows
- # [15:24] <Gijs> Oh look, dbg on win8 is already running too.
- # [15:24] <Gijs> Linux opt is soon, everything else is MIA. :(
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- # [15:25] <Gijs> RyanVM: so if we're not going to get green tests before then, should we try to do this by 7.30/8, or should we wait until after morning rush? Unfortunately quite some of us are in Europe, and jaws is east coast, so earlier is better for us.
- # [15:25] <RyanVM> Gijs: it has to be today I assume?
- # [15:25] <Gijs> We don't expect those tests to suddenly go orange, but obviously merging before green runs could be a little optimistic.
- # [15:25] <RyanVM> sure
- # [15:25] <Gijs> We have been planning on today, yes
- # [15:25] <jaws> RyanVM: yeah today
- # [15:26] <RyanVM> OOC, how often have you seen mochitest failures from a m-c merge?
- # [15:26] <jaws> Gijs: did you have to resolve any merge conflicts?
- # [15:27] <Gijs> RyanVM: relatively rarely. Jetpack has been more often problematic, tbh
- # [15:27] <Gijs> jaws: let me check
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- # [15:27] <RyanVM> yeah, I guess my question is what testsuites are most likely to break by the changes on UX?
- # [15:27] <Gijs> jaws: ironically, only the nullcheck stuff in the migration code which obviously isn't on Australis :P
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- # [15:28] <jaws> heh
- # [15:28] <jaws> yeah i saw you got that checked in earlier today
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- # [15:29] <RyanVM> let's see where we're at in 30min or so?
- # [15:29] <jaws> RyanVM: sounds good
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- # [15:31] <Gijs> RyanVM: so in the last 3 months, we had a problem with bc once, which was the beginning of september, and problems with jetpack 3 times. Nothing else, really - oth and 1-5 and crash/ref/jsref have been painless so far (knock on wood)
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- # [15:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5775fb538d2b - Jonathan Watt - Bug 939604 - Add support for more types to mozilla::gfx::Log. r=Bas
- # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2f35104ab0b - Jonathan Watt - Bug 889736, part 1 - Remove nsSVGTextFrame and nsSVGGlyphFrame. r=heycam
- # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d80e27b74a84 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 889736, part 3 - Remove nsSVGTSpanFrame. r=heycam
- # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14de5edb2078 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 889736, part 4 - Remove nsSVGTextContainerFrame. r=heycam
- # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31c689d4df9c - Jonathan Watt - Bug 937581 - Remove imgStatusTrackerNotifyingObserver. r=seth
- # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b01b36f72059 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 889736, part 2 - Remove nsSVGTextPathFrame. r=heycam
- # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c179a6e6ed92 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 889736, part 5 - Remove nsISVGGlyphFragmentNode and nsISVGGlyphFragmentLeaf. r=heycam
- # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb1d989a33a9 - Jonathan Watt - No bug - Add missing include guard to nsSVGInnerSVGFrame.h (apperently it's never had one!).
- # [15:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef5d7b35634b - Jonathan Watt - Bug 889736, part 6 - Stop setting the svg.text.css-frames.enabled pref. r=heycam
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- # [15:39] <RyanVM> Gijs: good info, thanks
- # [15:39] <RyanVM> Gijs: It would be good for mike's prior push to be green too
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- # [15:39] <Gijs> RyanVM: :)
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- # [15:41] <RyanVM> Gijs: the Win opt mbc runs will be done in 30-35min
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- # [15:43] <Gijs> RyanVM: yeah, I just noticed that, that and Linux will be good to have (although I'd rather have had win+mac, but w/e)
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- # [15:44] <jwatt> till: pong
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- # [15:45] <till> jwatt: I just realized that maybe I should tell someone about visiting the London office, and needing a desk. Whom do I talk to about that?
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- # [15:46] <till> jwatt: yep, did that already
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- # [16:13] <RyanVM> Gijs: looks like we'll get some OSX opt m-bc results in 15-20min
- # [16:13] <RyanVM> that gets us to 7:30am PST
- # [16:14] <RyanVM> I say if they're green, let's go for it
- # [16:14] <Gijs> jaws: ^^^
- # [16:14] <jaws> Gijs: thanks for the ping
- # [16:14] <Gijs> jaws: you're taking point on this, AIUI, right?
- # [16:14] <jaws> RyanVM: ok sounds good
- # [16:14] <jaws> i did a test merge locally and it was realy smooth
- # [16:15] <jaws> doing another one now just to double check
- # [16:15] <Gijs> jaws: that's what I like hearing.
- # [16:15] <RyanVM> jaws: should be since UX is already merged with m-c tip :)
- # [16:15] <jaws> yep
- # [16:15] <RyanVM> did you test with inbound/fx-team ?
- # [16:15] <jaws> yeah, and if it wasn't i'd go crazy
- # [16:15] <jaws> but good to test
- # [16:15] <jaws> RyanVM: nope, just m-c
- # [16:15] <Gijs> that's actually a good idea, tbh.
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- # [16:15] <RyanVM> Gijs: those are the ones I'd be concerned with
- # [16:15] <jaws> yeah it is a good idea
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- # [16:15] <jaws> but we can merge those in after the ux-mc merge
- # [16:15] <Gijs> Hrm.
- # [16:16] <jaws> and deal with conflicts at that time
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- # [16:16] <Gijs> I'm wondering if we should immediately merge through to fx-team and m-i
- # [16:16] <jaws> Gijs: what do you mean by "merge through"
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- # [16:16] <Gijs> merge m-c to fx-team/m-i/b2g-i right after merging ux to mc
- # [16:17] <Gijs> if not, maybe we should keep the integration trees closed while waiting for m-c to go green on the merge push?
- # [16:17] <Gijs> Or do we think it'll all be painless and we should just let people land on fx-team/m-i while we're baking on m-c?
- # [16:17] <jaws> Gijs: i don't see a huge problem with asking people to wait the couple hours for the builds to go green
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- # [16:18] <Gijs> RyanVM: ^^ ?
- # [16:18] <RyanVM> we want this merged around ASAP
- # [16:18] <Ms2ger> Heh
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- # [16:18] <RyanVM> we already know it's green on UX tip
- # [16:18] <jaws> true
- # [16:18] <RyanVM> which will be equivalent to m-c tip
- # [16:18] <jaws> yeah
- # [16:18] <Gijs> RyanVM: Right, that's fair enough.
- # [16:18] <RyanVM> so there's nothing to be gained by waiting
- # [16:18] <RyanVM> except more conficts
- # [16:18] <Gijs> jaws: do you have uptodate fx-team, m-i and b2g-i trees?
- # [16:19] <Gijs> (or at least somewhat uptodate)
- # [16:19] <jaws> Gijs: only fx-team
- # [16:19] <Gijs> jaws: I can also help merge through to branches if you like.
- # [16:19] <jaws> oh i also have m-i
- # [16:19] <jaws> but not b2g-i
- # [16:19] <Gijs> I have b2g-i lying around
- # [16:19] <jaws> Gijs: cool, we should join up in #firefox
- # [16:19] <RyanVM> i can merge it around if you want
- # [16:19] <RyanVM> once it's on m-c
- # [16:19] <Gijs> er, fx-team? :)
- # [16:19] <jaws> i'm gonna grab something to eat since i'm getting quite hungry, be back in 2mins
- # [16:19] <Gijs> sure
- # [16:19] <RyanVM> so long as you're aroudn to help with any possible conflicts
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- # [16:20] <glazou> urgh sorry wrong window
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- # [16:22] <philor> oops, misstarred ehsan's bustage
- # [16:22] <RyanVM> jaws: Gijs: tell me that OSX bc orange on UX isn't a problem
- # [16:22] <jaws> RyanVM: doesn't show orange for me yet
- # [16:23] <RyanVM> Gijs: jaws: because that sure looks related
- # [16:23] <RyanVM> on mike's push
- # [16:23] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30701649&tree=UX
- # [16:23] * Gijs pokes tbpl
- # [16:23] <jaws> oh, mike's push
- # [16:23] <jaws> yeah...
- # [16:23] * Gijs suspects new randomorange
- # [16:24] <RyanVM> so...backout from UX before merging to m-c?
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- # [16:24] <Gijs> the test in question is mine, and I am aware it's not a great test
- # [16:24] * RyanVM isn't interested in bringing new oranges over
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- # [16:24] <Gijs> I think it's unlikely the new orange is really the fault of mike's push.
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- # [16:25] <Gijs> I'd rather disable the test.
- # [16:25] <RyanVM> Gijs: WFM
- # [16:25] <RyanVM> better you make that call than me ;)
- # [16:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5f19ed28c75f - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 134f2dc02468 (bug 939659) for assertions
- # [16:25] <jesup> ted: ping
- # [16:25] <RyanVM> Gijs: we usually recommend a "fix and re-enable" bug when doing so
- # [16:26] <Gijs> We have one already
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- # [16:26] <RyanVM> even better :P
- # [16:26] <philor> but at least I'm not alone, since ehsan did too
- # [16:26] <Gijs> RyanVM: it's not gone orange before, but I wrote this test knowing full well it wasn't brilliant... but it's a hard feature to write a better test for. :(
- # [16:27] <Gijs> (resizing window should async trigger items to be added/removed from the navbar, essentially)
- # [16:27] <@ehsan> ?
- # [16:27] <Gijs> (and obviously sizes of things in the navbar are different on different platform and omg kill me now)
- # [16:27] <philor> ehsan: misstarred those assertions you caused with the unified spellchecker
- # [16:27] <philor> both of us
- # [16:27] <@ehsan> oh those are my fault?
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- # [16:28] <philor> yeah, backed out, they're spellchecker assertions
- # [16:28] <Ms2ger> ehsan, everything in your fault :)
- # [16:28] <Ms2ger> Is, even
- # [16:28] <@ehsan> philor: ok, thanks
- # [16:28] <@ehsan> and sorry
- # [16:29] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: not everything, but most things are, it's true
- # [16:29] <RyanVM> ehsan: this is what happens when we reopen the tree :(
- # [16:29] <@ehsan> RyanVM: mistakes? :)
- # [16:30] <RyanVM> :P
- # [16:30] <@ehsan> they will happen if you keep the tree closed too
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- # [16:30] <jaws> no, things getting checked in :P
- # [16:31] <RyanVM> ehsan: can't bust the tree if you can't push to it! :D
- # [16:31] <@ehsan> well the trees being closed didn't prevent people from landing stuff ;)
- # [16:31] <@ehsan> RyanVM: CLOSED TREE ftw
- # [16:31] <RyanVM> ehsan: we need a CLOSED FRLZ status
- # [16:32] <RyanVM> Gijs: are you going to push the test disabling to UX?
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- # [16:32] <Gijs> RyanVM: I will as soon as I see 10.6/10.7 m-bc be green on that push - if it's gone orange everywhere I'm backing mike out.
- # [16:32] <RyanVM> gotcha
- # [16:32] <Gijs> (on debug, I mean)
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- # [16:33] <jaws> Gijs: i also retriggered that bc run, but it will take too long to wait unfortunately
- # [16:33] <Gijs> well, right
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- # [16:34] <philor> huh, an UNCO randomorange bug, I don't think I've ever seen one before
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- # [16:34] <philor> couldn't figure out what italics in the suggestions meant
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- # [16:34] <RyanVM> heh, interesting
- # [16:35] <@ehsan> hmm, the assertion doesn't happen locally
- # [16:35] <philor> doesn't seem to happen !Mac
- # [16:36] <Gijs> 10.6 is green
- # [16:36] <@ehsan> I'm on mac...
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- # [16:37] <RyanVM> jaws: Gijs: I think pending the disabling/backout for the new orange, we're good to go otherwise
- # [16:38] <jaws> sounds good
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- # [16:40] <Gijs> jaws: pushed a cset to disable that test.
- # [16:41] <RyanVM> jaws: Gijs: did you want me to merge m-c to the integration branches?
- # [16:41] <jaws> RyanVM, Gijs: how should i go about testing that the fx-team, m-i merges are fine?
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- # [16:41] <RyanVM> jaws: we'll play it by ear
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- # [16:41] <Gijs> jaws: RyanVM: so should we just close m-c now, too, and merge? :)
- # [16:41] <jaws> 10:11 AM <RyanVM> did you test with inbound/fx-team ?
- # [16:42] <jaws> let's all join Firefox room on vidyo
- # [16:42] <Gijs> k
- # [16:42] <RyanVM> vidyo's hanging
- # [16:42] <RyanVM> go figure
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- # [16:43] <froydnj> vidyo hates the australis merge too
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- # [16:44] <BenWa> ehsan: are we tracking the total time won with unified sources?
- # [16:44] <@ehsan> BenWa: no
- # [16:45] <@ehsan> (I'm not)
- # [16:45] <BenWa> you should :)
- # [16:45] <@ehsan> I don't have the right tools :)
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- # [16:48] <@ehsan> BenWa: if you know of an easy way to set up something on a box which publishes build times based on date somewhere that we can graph it etc let me know
- # [16:48] <BenWa> ehsan: I wonder if it would be accurate to get them from the TBPL task
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- # [16:48] <@ehsan> BenWa: TBPL does way more than just builds
- # [16:49] <BenWa> ehsan: they timestamp all their subtasks
- # [16:49] <@ehsan> it spends hours deleting things, recloning things, running tests on the build etc
- # [16:49] <BenWa> let me check
- # [16:49] <BenWa> we'd have to parse the log of course
- # [16:49] <@ehsan> I have looked at the build faster dashboards before
- # [16:49] <@ehsan> the data there is pretty much useless
- # [16:49] <@ehsan> it's too noisy and doesn't reflect the actual build times
- # [16:50] <BenWa> Finished compile (results: 0, elapsed: 41 mins, 45 secs) that looks accurate for a fat build
- # [16:51] <BenWa> it does make package which is useful to measure for android/b2g
- # [16:51] <@ehsan> interesting
- # [16:51] <@ehsan> perhaps we already have these numbers up somewhere?
- # [16:51] <@ehsan> who knows about build faster dashboards?
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- # [16:52] <BenWa> gps: Are you tracking build time changes? I'm wondering if we will see the results of unifying sources
- # [16:52] <Ms2ger> Don't we have buildfaster graphs?
- # [16:52] <BenWa> I imagine we will be fighting against the growth
- # [16:52] <BenWa> Ms2ger: Link?
- # [16:52] <RyanVM> buildfaster?
- # [16:53] <Ms2ger> No, that wasn't what it was alled
- # [16:53] <Ms2ger> called
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- # [16:53] <RyanVM> no, I'm saying we already have that
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- # [16:53] <@ehsan> http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/gofaster/#/executiontime/build
- # [16:53] <@ehsan> this data is useless like I said above
- # [16:53] <RyanVM> ah
- # [16:54] <BenWa> ahh
- # [16:54] <Ms2ger> ahhh
- # [16:54] <froydnj> a(h^n)
- # [16:54] <@ehsan> the reason: http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/gofaster/#/overhead/build :)_
- # [16:54] <@ehsan> (holy hell!!!)
- # [16:55] <@ehsan> also the fact that you can't know which build each line is representing is not helpful
- # [16:55] <glob> ..hours ?
- # [16:55] <@ehsan> I know!
- # [16:55] <BenWa> This is measuring the build job I bet and not the build times
- # [16:55] <@ehsan> it's measuring the setup and teardown times too
- # [16:55] <BenWa> which includes 'make check'
- # [16:55] <froydnj> also that you have 20 lines that are poorly distinguished and no way to filter :(
- # [16:55] <BenWa> right
- # [16:55] <@ehsan> so in theory a substraction is all we need
- # [16:55] <Ms2ger> Are these hours the counting the gaia builds?
- # [16:55] <BenWa> froydnj: you can filter by clicking on them
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- # [16:57] <RyanVM> jaws: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Committing_Rules_and_Responsibilities#Commit_message_restrictions
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- # [16:57] <Ms2ger> Oh dear, what'd jaws do?
- # [16:57] <froydnj> BenWa: huh
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- # [16:58] <BenWa> froydnj: you can toggle an platform by clicking on it in the legend
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- # [17:00] <@ehsan> BenWa: what would be more useful is clicking on the graph and seeing which item the line corresponds to!
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- # [17:00] <BenWa> agreed
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- # [17:01] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ehsan, BenWa: I'd absolutely love patches to buildfaster, if you had any time... :-)
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- # [17:01] <edmorley|sheriffduty> gofaster even
- # [17:01] <edmorley|sheriffduty> https://github.com/mozilla/gofaster/
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- # [17:01] <@ehsan> edmorley|sheriffduty: I'm talking about it because I don't have enough time to do this myself :)
- # [17:01] <@ehsan> edmorley|sheriffduty: that project is dead now, is it not?
- # [17:01] <edmorley|sheriffduty> :-)
- # [17:02] <@ehsan> I guess it was never that alive ;)
- # [17:02] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ehsan: it hasn't received much tlc of late
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- # [17:02] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ehsan: if we come up with something superior to replace it, then great - I'd just like to avoid the usual mozilla "three teams working on the same thing without realsing it" syndrome :-)
- # [17:03] <@ehsan> edmorley|sheriffduty: I'm not part of any such team :)
- # [17:03] <@ehsan> just a mere individual
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- # [17:03] <jaws> Ms2ger: needed to use the IGNORE BAD COMMIT MESSAGES override
- # [17:03] <edmorley|sheriffduty> s/team/whatever/ :-)
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- # [17:03] <Ms2ger> Bad, bad
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- # [17:04] <@ehsan> :q
- # [17:04] <@ehsan> oops
- # [17:04] <jimm> is that Australis I see on mc? :)
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- # [17:04] <ttaubert> yup
- # [17:04] <Ms2ger> omg i use chrome now
- # [17:04] <jimm> sweet, congrats ux/fx teams
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- # [17:05] <jimm> long time in coming
- # [17:05] <gaston> cant wait to see the build breakage on npotb platforms \o/
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- # [17:05] <ttaubert> Ms2ger: yes, you can send patches to their bug tracker now as well
- # [17:05] <froydnj> chrome has no bugs
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- # [17:06] <ttaubert> ah, my bad
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- # [17:06] <jaws> jimm: thanks!
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- # [17:07] <jaws> gaston: there better not be! it's almost all frontend changes
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- # [17:07] <gaston> australis already works for me on tb anyway :)
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- # [17:08] <ttaubert> but I can't move tabs around there
- # [17:08] <Ms2ger> jaws, how much money do you want to put on that? :)
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- # [17:21] <decoder> smaug: ping
- # [17:21] <@smaug> decoder: pong
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- # [17:22] <decoder> smaug: regarding your race question
- # [17:22] <decoder> Thread 14 is accessing nsEventListenerManager::sMainThreadCreatedCount
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- # [17:22] <decoder> ignoring the !NS_IsMainThread check
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- # [17:22] <decoder> there's nothing for tsan to understand or not understand, the thread is reading the memory
- # [17:22] <decoder> could be a compiler optimization
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- # [17:23] <decoder> i think we've had the situation before that the compiler reordered stuff around !NS_IsMainThread
- # [17:23] <@smaug> decoder: sounds like a compiler bug then
- # [17:24] <@smaug> decoder: since you have TSan running, could you try the thing I suggested ?
- # [17:24] <decoder> smaug: can you show me a patch for what you mean?
- # [17:24] <decoder> then i can try it
- # [17:24] <froydnj> it's not wrong for the compiler to reorder stuff like that if you're not providing barriers for it
- # [17:25] <jcranmer> this is why C++11 added std::atomic
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- # [17:25] <decoder> does NS_IsMainThread use any form of atomics/barriers?
- # [17:25] <decoder> if not, can we make that happen?
- # [17:25] <froydnj> no
- # [17:25] <jcranmer> of course, NSPR seems to be a giant thread race waiting to happen
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- # [17:26] <froydnj> it doesn't need to use atomics/barriers
- # [17:26] <jcranmer> since "current thread id" is racily accessed all over the place
- # [17:26] <@smaug> decoder: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3629345 perhaps
- # [17:26] <jcranmer> with the assumption that it's always accessed atomically (ha!)
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- # [17:26] <decoder> froydnj: because it will still produce the right result? or whats the reason?
- # [17:27] <@smaug> decoder: didn't compile that
- # [17:27] <decoder> smaug: testing :)
- # [17:27] <tbsaunde> decoder: because it uses tls
- # [17:27] <decoder> tbsaunde: and that means?
- # [17:27] <jcranmer> thread-local storage
- # [17:27] <froydnj> decoder: that there's no shared state to barrier on
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- # [17:28] <decoder> is there any sane way then to prevent racy access due to reordering?
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- # [17:28] <tbsaunde> now maybe NS_IsMainThread should barier just because that's what people expect, but I'm not really sure that's a great idea
- # [17:28] <jcranmer> froydnj: it doesn't prevent races, though
- # [17:28] <froydnj> jcranmer: indeed
- # [17:29] <@smaug> froydnj: so compiler can reorder initialization of member variables even if latter variables rely on the earlier variables ?
- # [17:29] <decoder> i cannot judge if there is a real issue with NS_IsMainThread not having a barrier
- # [17:29] <decoder> but if there is no issue
- # [17:29] <jcranmer> if (NS_IsMainThread()) { access Mainread-only state} -> compiler can reorder memory above main thread
- # [17:29] <decoder> can we still make it barrier with MOZ_TSAN onky?
- # [17:29] <decoder> *only
- # [17:29] <decoder> that would prevent these reports
- # [17:29] <froydnj> smaug: ^
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- # [17:30] <froydnj> smaug: and the compiler could do that too, if it chose and there weren't any problematic data dependencies
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- # [17:31] <@smaug> froydnj: how can you initialize the latter variable before first one if it relies on the first one ?
- # [17:31] <BenWa> which tree is branch mozilla-b2g26_v1_2? beta?
- # [17:32] <catlee> kind of
- # [17:32] <RyanVM> BenWa: it's its own tree
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- # [17:32] <froydnj> smaug: use whatever the first one was initialized with (might be passed in a register and save a memory read)
- # [17:32] <BenWa> ohh ok
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- # [17:32] <RyanVM> BenWa: it branched off when 26 went to beta
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- # [17:33] <BenWa> found it, ty
- # [17:33] <@smaug> froydnj: right. So in this case the first one is initialize with NS_IsMainThread()
- # [17:33] <froydnj> smaug: and then reorder the stores to the members
- # [17:33] <@smaug> initialized
- # [17:33] <decoder> froydnj: jcranmer: tbsaunde: so, is there any real issue with NS_IsMainThread using tls and not having a barrier? If there is no real issue, can we fix it for tsan-only?
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- # [17:34] <froydnj> smaug: yes
- # [17:34] <Pike> should we kick off a nightly for the australis landing?
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- # [17:38] <tbsaunde> decoder: well, putting a barier in NS_ISMainThread could hurt perf and if you do it for tsan only you might miss real issues
- # [17:39] <Pike> to tell australis regressions from all the other stuff that's gonna pile on the tree now that it's open, was my take
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- # [17:40] <RyanVM> Pike: we were going to, yes
- # [17:40] <zzzzz> I agree with Pike, Nightly's need to be kicked off to get it into the hands of Nightly testers sooner
- # [17:40] <decoder> tbsaunde: how would we miss real issues by putting a barrier in NS_IsMainThread? Wouldnt that suggest we have real issues due to that function not having a barrier?
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- # [17:41] <tbsaunde> decoder: if you add it in release builds sure then you'd fix the issues, but its not clear that's the right place to do it
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- # [17:42] <decoder> tbsaunde: im open for any suggestions :) be it fixing the issues themselves (if they are issues) or NS_IsMainThread. but doing nothing renders the tool useless and that I want to prevent
- # [17:43] <tbsaunde> I'm not really sure what the right solution is :/
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- # [17:43] <gps> BenWa: I'm not tracking it anywhere. better measurement of build perf on automation didn't make the Q4 cut
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- # [17:46] <RyanVM> eww large icons
- # [17:46] <decoder> froydnj: btw, im using tsan with clang :) just fyi
- # [17:47] <decoder> (there is also tsan for gcc)
- # [17:47] <decoder> maybe clang does a similar thing to what you described
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- # [17:47] <froydnj> decoder: I wouldn't be surprised
- # [17:48] <RyanVM> jaws: so small icons are dead? :(
- # [17:48] <zzzzz> yeah, they said months ago that small-icons were going away
- # [17:49] <froydnj> decoder: anyway, that's the crux of what the compiler is doing, and since the source code isn't telling it anything different...
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- # [17:49] <@bsmedberg> decoder: what bug is the NS_IsMainThread bug?
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- # [17:50] <Gijs> RyanVM: yeah.
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- # [17:50] <jaws> RyanVM: yes, gone with the wind
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- # [17:50] <RyanVM> :(
- # [17:50] <Gijs> RyanVM: the difference was very very very marginal on OS X and Linux
- # [17:50] <RyanVM> Windows here
- # [17:50] <Gijs> err
- # [17:50] <Gijs> Windows
- # [17:50] <Gijs> Really?
- # [17:51] <RyanVM> just seems like some wasted vertical space
- # [17:51] <zzzzz> +1
- # [17:51] <edmorley|mtg> Gijs: yeah that OS that 90% of our desktop userbase uses... ;-)
- # [17:51] <@bsmedberg> Gijs: you have a thing against windows?
- # [17:51] <jaws> RyanVM: well, it's like 3 pixel difference, and never was done the right way. would be better to actually do a small icons mode the right way if we actually want it
- # [17:51] * @bsmedberg uses windows as his primary box
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- # [17:51] <Gijs> edmorley|mtg: bsmedberg no, I misspoke.
- # [17:52] <RyanVM> seems like theres ~10px above and below the nav bar
- # [17:52] <Gijs> edmorley|mtg: bsmedberg: the difference was marginal on OS X and Windows
- # [17:52] <jaws> until then, it's a maintenance issue and makes doing front-end work (developing/testing) much harder
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- # [17:52] <@bsmedberg> are we going to spin a new nightly for Australis, to get a head start on OMGChange?
- # [17:52] <jaws> RyanVM: oh yeah, australis did make the navbar taller on purpose too, (40px)
- # [17:52] <RyanVM> yes
- # [17:52] <edmorley|sheriffduty> bsmedberg: yup
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- # [17:53] <RyanVM> jaws: yeah, I think that's more the issue than the icon size
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- # [17:53] <jaws> RyanVM: bug 873626
- # [17:53] <RyanVM> i do like the new tabs personally
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- # [17:54] <@bsmedberg> jaws: can I get review on the infobar telemetry patch https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=832213&action=edit so I can request uplift for the set?
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- # [17:56] <RyanVM> jaws: dunno, I guess I just don't see why it was necessary other than "because the mockup said so"
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- # [17:56] <RyanVM> whatever, that's what userchrome.css is for :)
- # [17:56] <jaws> bsmedberg: yeah
- # [17:56] <@bsmedberg> ty
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- # [17:56] <jaws> RyanVM: we want to give more space to the icons so they feel less cramped
- # [17:57] <jaws> bsmedberg: obv i've been busy with austarlis. but i didn't forget
- # [17:57] <@bsmedberg> jaws: yeah, I figured
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- # [17:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/298618421b51 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 937369 - Use moz.build in accessibility/src/jsat. r=davidb
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- # [17:58] <nemo> 821.86 MB (100.0%) -- explicit
- # [17:58] <nemo> ├──307.56 MB (37.42%) ── heap-unclassified
- # [17:58] <nemo> heh
- # [17:58] <nemo> well. that's... not at all informative :)
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- # [17:59] <froydnj> nemo: what platform is that?
- # [17:59] <nemo> froydnj: linux
- # [17:59] <nemo> nightly
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- # [18:00] <nemo> was curious why firefox was taking
- # [18:00] <nemo> 880.71 MB ── resident
- # [18:00] <RyanVM> hmm, that didn't work
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- # [18:01] <edmorley|sheriffduty> jaws: it's a bit unfortunate about needing the "IGNORE BAD COMMIT MESSAGES" - we should set the commit message hook on UX too
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- # [18:02] <jaws> edmorley|sheriffduty: yeah
- # [18:02] <froydnj> nemo: what have you been doing in that session?
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- # [18:02] <sheppy> Gonna have to make some time to work on some code once australis hits nightly… I have some things I want to tweak. :)
- # [18:02] <nemo> froydnj: hrm. let's see
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- # [18:02] <nemo> froydnj: I'd just opened an album on google images
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- # [18:02] <nemo> froydnj: I'd visited ycombinator... and that's about all so far today.
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- # [18:02] <nemo> froydnj: has been idle since Friday
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- # [18:03] <RyanVM> jaws: so what am I missing here? I put this in my userChrome.css but it doesn't appear to have done anything - https://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/3629477
- # [18:03] <froydnj> nemo: hm. so nightly from several days ago?
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- # [18:03] <nemo> froydnj: there's a fair amount used by pdf.js - 76MiB in a worker, and 61MiB rendering a PDF
- # [18:03] <nemo> froydnj: yeah.
- # [18:03] <nemo> froydnj: gonna start closing some tabs and see what happens
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- # [18:04] <Gijs> froydnj: congrats on your peerage! :)
- # [18:04] <nemo> closing the non-obvious ones first
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- # [18:04] <froydnj> Gijs: thanks!
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- # [18:05] <gps> edmorley|sheriffduty: pulling inbound corrupted my Mercurial repo
- # [18:05] <decoder> bsmedberg: 939788
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- # [18:05] <gps> content/base/src/nsXMLHttpRequest.h@173565: 3821f28f391f in manifests not found
- # [18:05] <gps> testing/mochitest/manifest.webapp@173565: 7f4fa4684cb6 in manifests not found
- # [18:05] <decoder> froydnj: i hope we can find a suitable solution to prevent these reports with tsan
- # [18:05] <JosiahOne> RyanVM: The !important goes before the ;
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- # [18:05] <decoder> (if they are harmless)
- # [18:05] <gps> 173565 in my repo is beddd6d4bcdf
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- # [18:06] <RyanVM> JosiahOne: aha, let me try that :)
- # [18:06] <Gijs> froydnj: want to review bug 890545? ;)
- # [18:06] <edmorley|sheriffduty> gps: hmm
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- # [18:07] <nemo> froydnj: funny how closing tabs sometimes raises memory a little :)
- # [18:07] <nemo> froydnj: so gone up from 906 to 918 - I guess tabs were quiescent and waking 'em up sucked up a bit of mem
- # [18:07] <RyanVM> jaws: JosiahOne: lovely, thanks :)
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- # [18:07] <edmorley|sheriffduty> gps: I can pull ok at the moment, weird
- # [18:07] <froydnj> Gijs: oh man, do I have to? :)
- # [18:07] <jaws> RyanVM, JosiahOne: good catch!
- # [18:07] <gps> edmorley|sheriffduty: I'm running verify on all my repos
- # [18:07] <RyanVM> 2px looks great to me :P
- # [18:08] <nemo> froydnj: and. now 950MiB, still closing tabs :)
- # [18:08] <froydnj> nemo: doh
- # [18:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f921dc945f7b - Olli Pettay - Bug 939789, call nsJSContext::LikelyShortLivingObjectCreated() only in the main thread, r=mccr8
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- # [18:08] <Gijs> froydnj: nope, but it's pretty simple and it's been 3 weeks since I asked bsmedberg - I think he's busy with the plugin stuff :)
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- # [18:09] <@bsmedberg> what did I forget to do?
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- # [18:10] <froydnj> Gijs: looking at it now unless bsmedberg beats me to it
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- # [18:11] <Gijs> froydnj: awesome
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- # [18:11] <Gijs> bsmedberg: glandium gave me f+ for bug 890545 but then asked you to review after all :)
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- # [18:12] <Gijs> bsmedberg: I didn't ping you, because I know you've been busy with plugin stuff and it's not super-critical
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- # [18:12] <Gijs> bsmedberg: so don't worry, I'm sure froydnj can deal with it. :)
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- # [18:12] <gps> edmorley|sheriffduty: I think this is an issue with just my repo
- # [18:12] <gps> due to NFS on hg.mozilla.org bullshit
- # [18:12] <edmorley|sheriffduty> gps: ok cool, thank you for the heads up anyway
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- # [18:16] <mkaply_> Are there any other built in chrome content namespaces in Firefox besides browser and mozapps?
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- # [18:17] * mkaply_ should probably just unzip omni.ja and look at the manifest
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- # [18:17] <mkaply_> lots more than I thought
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- # [18:18] <froydnj> Gijs: there you go
- # [18:18] <Gijs> froydnj: woo, thanks! :)
- # [18:19] <nemo> huh. someone I know had a firefox crash. their first in 2 months...
- # [18:19] <nemo> I asked for the crash report and... "Firefox 25.0 Crash Report [@ EMPTY: no crashing thread identified; corrupt dump ]"
- # [18:19] <nemo> I wonder how often that happens
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- # [18:21] <lizzard> nemo: i think it's the top crash report right now for ff25
- # [18:21] <nemo> ick
- # [18:21] <nemo> lizzard: so. something is going on?
- # [18:21] <nemo> is there a bug for it (in context of topcrasher)
- # [18:21] <lizzard> nemo: you can see it here with a lot of bugs linked from it: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/products/Firefox/versions/25.0.1?days=7
- # [18:21] <nemo> froydnj: *sigh* I should have done gc after each tab close
- # [18:22] <nemo> froydnj: now I'm down to 577 and not sure why
- # [18:22] <Ms2ger> froydnj, congratudolences
- # [18:22] <nemo> lizzard: there were a lot of bugs in the crasher. too many actually. wasn't sure which was best candidate
- # [18:23] <nemo> lizzard: OOM tho... hm. she currently has FF using 82% of system mem
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- # [18:33] <nemo> froydnj: welp. I'm going to say it was reading this PDF that sucked up the majority of my memory
- # [18:33] <nemo> froydnj: I closed everything but the PDF tab, pressed "minimise memory usage" then "measure" and I'm at 510MiB
- # [18:34] <nemo> the rest was usual suspects - large jpeg in a private tab and some other stuff
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- # [18:35] <froydnj> nemo: all the pdf memory should have been accounted for in about:memory; the heap-unclassified is the really interesting number
- # [18:35] <froydnj> nemo: is that still high?
- # [18:36] <nemo> nope :(
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- # [18:36] <nemo> just 90MiB now
- # [18:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d40a8f1b00b - Trevor Saunders - revert bug 931399 to see if it helps with bug 883059 at all
- # [18:36] <nemo> froydnj: well. relatively not as high
- # [18:36] <nemo> ├───90.09 MB (17.22%) ── heap-unclassified
- # [18:36] <nemo> ├───86.55 MB (16.55%) -- heap-overhead
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- # [18:36] <nemo> guess I can undo all the tab closes and see if it comes back
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- # [18:38] <nemo> froydnj: what is "heap overhead" anyway?
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- # [18:39] <nemo> froydnj: well. I can guess, structures related to managing the heap, but.... 17%? really?
- # [18:40] <nemo> reran minimise and they are now
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- # [18:40] <nemo> ├───94.27 MB (19.94%) -- heap-overhead and
- # [18:40] <nemo> ├───86.84 MB (18.37%) ── heap-unclassified
- # [18:40] <nemo> ... 107.76 MB (21.96%) -- heap-overhead and 84.70 MB (17.26%) ── heap-unclassified - yeesh
- # [18:40] <froydnj> nemo: heap overhead is the difference between the memory you asked for and the memory the allocator actually gave you
- # [18:40] <nemo> ahh
- # [18:41] <froydnj> nemo: the allocator rounds up requests to make its life easier
- # [18:41] <nemo> froydnj: ok. soooo a lot of small allocations could do that
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- # [18:41] <decoder> smaug: btw, with your patch im not getting the original race anymore but instead I see a race from content/events/src/nsEventListenerManager.cpp:104 and the other stack shows up as unknown. that location was the other location for the previous race.. I assume it doesnt fix the problem entirely.. might be due to the NS_IsMainThread problem itself
- # [18:41] <nemo> froydnj: lemme apply updates, and see if it is still doing this on restart w/ my one PDF tab
- # [18:41] <froydnj> nemo: maybe; the allocator doesn't round up small allocations *that* much
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- # [18:42] <froydnj> nemo: it's also possibly you're making many medium-sized allocations (10s of KB) that are effectively wasting half of what the allocator decides to hand out
- # [18:43] <kbrosnan> till: looking at 931251 again and the crash only seems to spike on 25. the beta numbers are an order of magnitude lower
- # [18:44] <till> kbrosnan: oh, interesting
- # [18:45] <till> kbrosnan: but it's still there in beta, so this is probably an issue that is aggravated by something in 25, but not in 26, right?
- # [18:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jaws: just spun new nightlies on m-c
- # [18:45] <jaws> wow that was quick!
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- # [18:45] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: *skritch* *scratch*
- # [18:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: wikiwikiwaa
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- # [18:47] <kbrosnan> till: hm order of magnitude might be off, more like 25b10 is 2x 26b4 or 26b2 crashes
- # [18:47] <till> kbrosnan: ah, ok
- # [18:48] <till> kbrosnan: I like the idea of uplifting bug 935903 as an attempted fix
- # [18:48] <kbrosnan> ok
- # [18:48] <kbrosnan> thanks for looking into this
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- # [18:49] <till> kbrosnan: sure. I just wish I had more to show for it :(
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- # [18:50] <kbrosnan> as do i
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- # [18:50] <kbrosnan> nice when you can hit steps to repro
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- # [18:50] <jaws> RyanVM|sheriffduty: how can i get permission to update treestatus?
- # [18:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jaws: file a bug and CC me
- # [18:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i can add you
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- # [18:51] <jaws> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok thanks, KWierso helping me now. will file a bug later
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- # [18:52] <@smaug> decoder: so it is not clear to me whether there is a real problem
- # [18:52] <@ehsan> ah sessionstore :(
- # [18:52] <@ehsan> ttaubert: ^
- # [18:52] <@ehsan> I lost all of my session
- # [18:52] <@ehsan> this is happening every few weeks these days
- # [18:52] <@smaug> decoder: ELM.cpp 104 is again about NS_IsMainThread()
- # [18:52] <decoder> smaug: to me neither. the problem seems to be about optimizations around NS_IsMainThread
- # [18:53] <@gavin> ehsan: file a bug, provide more detail?
- # [18:53] <@ehsan> gavin: what kind of detail can I provide besides I lost my session?
- # [18:53] <KWierso> jaws: hrm, tbpl doesn't play nicely with long statuses :\
- # [18:53] <decoder> smaug: maybe froydnj, bsmedberg and ttaubert can find a solution for that
- # [18:53] <jaws> no it doesnt :(
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- # [18:53] <@gavin> ehsan: circumstances that led to that, system/browser config, etc.
- # [18:53] <@gavin> ehsan: I do not need to tell you this :)
- # [18:53] <nemo> froydnj: so. after loading the pdf, memory usage was normal. after paging down it, as I had read it the first time, usage jumped to 447.66 MB (100.0%) -- explicit with 114.61 MB (25.60%) ── heap-unclassified but only 19.04 MB (04.25%) -- heap-overhead
- # [18:54] <nemo> froydnj: if you like, I can send you the whole dump, if you think it is an interesting case
- # [18:54] <@ehsan> gavin: the thing is I've never filed a sessionstore bug which people could diagnose
- # [18:54] <@bsmedberg> The bug is confusing. We're either talking about reordering the C++ initializers in that class, which would seem to be a compiler bug or we don't understand the spec
- # [18:54] <froydnj> nemo: this is repeatable? e.g. open browser with no tabs, open pdf, view stats, see problems?
- # [18:54] <@ehsan> gavin: the problem is that the useful data for diagnosing the bug is always lost almost by definition
- # [18:54] <@bsmedberg> *or* we're talking about some kind of race against NS_IsMainThread, which doesn't make much sense to me
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- # [18:54] <@ehsan> but I'll file this bug regardless
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- # [18:55] <nemo> froydnj: well. I've just done it once, and, reading the PDF a page at a time was crucial
- # [18:55] <nemo> froydnj: PDF doesn't seem to really render the pages otherwise
- # [18:55] * @bsmedberg also notes that NS_IsMainThread is already blacklisted in ASAN
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- # [18:55] <nemo> froydnj: I can do it again. hang on
- # [18:56] <nemo> it *is* a large PDF - 57 pages - mostly text, but fairly complex text
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- # [18:56] <nemo> 55 pages
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- # [18:57] <froydnj> bsmedberg: we'd face the same issue even if things were getting initialized in the order smaug thinks they ought to be
- # [18:57] <froydnj> nemo: can you share the pdf?
- # [18:57] <@bsmedberg> froydnj: which is the issue?
- # [18:58] <gps> BenWa, ehsan: I just built central and build times since d4a27d8eda28 are -55s wall and 571s CPU time!
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- # [18:58] <@ehsan> gps: -55s?
- # [18:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/91e1d8abb51e - Sylvestre Ledru - Bug 793465 - Remove the unconditional declaration of HAVE_UINT64_T. r=glandium
- # [18:58] <gps> that's almost 10 minutes of CPU time shaved off!
- # [18:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae2fbe7075ce - Alexandre Poirot - Bug 770915 - Make Sandbox.dump() appear in adb logcat. r=gabor
- # [18:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d65853025113 - Alexandros Chronopoulos - Bug 704316 - Remove reference to deleted mozilla-dos2unix. r=ted
- # [18:58] <@ehsan> gps: sorry I can't parse that sentence :)
- # [18:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fc3679786f70 - Arnaud Bienner - Bug 938334 - Use "Type" as parameter in nsCSSPseudoElements methods instead of "nsIAtom*" when it makes sense to do so. r=dbaron
- # [18:58] <gps> ehsan: 11:13 to 10:18. and I was even running apps during the 10:18 time
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- # [18:59] <gps> 75:59 total CPU time vs 66:28 today
- # [18:59] <@ehsan> gps: what are those times from?
- # [18:59] <@ehsan> I mean which dates?
- # [18:59] <gps> ehsan: http://gregoryszorc.com/blog/2013/11/05/macbook-pro-firefox-build-times-comparison/
- # [18:59] <gps> d4a27d8eda28 and f2adb62d07eb
- # [18:59] <@ehsan> gps: these are clobber numbers?
- # [18:59] <froydnj> bsmedberg: the compiler transforms |x ? 0 : y| to |xor %reg,%reg; cmove [mem], %reg|
- # [18:59] <nemo> froydnj: sure. hang on
- # [19:00] <gps> ehsan: yes
- # [19:00] <nemo> wellll
- # [19:00] <froydnj> bsmedberg: at least, I assume clang is doing this too, gcc does
- # [19:00] <nemo> froydnj: probably
- # [19:00] <nemo> hm
- # [19:00] <evilpie> bz: I forgot one iid, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=939194#c4
- # [19:00] <evilpie> I will push a fix
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- # [19:00] <bz> evilpie: sounds good
- # [19:00] <@gavin> ehsan: having a bug to keep a record is likely to be uch more effective than random IRC pings
- # [19:00] <@ehsan> gps: related question, do you track build times somewhere?
- # [19:00] <@bsmedberg> froydnj: I still don't think I understand why that's a problem
- # [19:01] <@ehsan> gavin: I am filing the bug, I was just pointing out that it's probably no more useful than random IRC rants :)
- # [19:01] <froydnj> bsmedberg: because now the read from [mem] is being done unconditionally on all threads
- # [19:01] <gps> ehsan: not officially
- # [19:01] <@ehsan> gavin: because I don't have any other piece of information to put in the bug
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- # [19:01] <froydnj> bsmedberg: without any sort of locking...and tsan complains
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- # [19:02] <froydnj> mmm, or maybe it loads the memory into a register first to actually trigger the read
- # [19:02] <@bsmedberg> froydnj: cmov really loads the argument even if the condition is false?
- # [19:02] <@gavin> ehsan: a bug is still useful even if you have nothing now, because it's a record and a place for discussion
- # [19:02] <froydnj> bsmedberg: well, ok, I suppose that would not be observable
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- # [19:03] <@ehsan> gavin: yes, I'm very well aware of that :) (bug 939872)
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- # [19:03] <froydnj> decoder: can you provide the disassembly for nsEventDispatcher::Dispatch from clang?
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- # [19:04] <@ehsan> gps: anecdotally on my machine here, since we began the includehell reduction (which is when I started to pay attention to my build times), we've cut down more than half of our build time
- # [19:05] <@ehsan> gps: from ~40-50mins to around 20 these days
- # [19:05] <@ehsan> but that's totally non-scientific
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- # [19:06] <gps> ehsan: some of that is C++ work. some I believe is also attributed to the 'compile' tier, which was introduced in that timespan
- # [19:06] <gps> compile makes a huge difference for wall times
- # [19:06] <gps> especially on high core count machines
- # [19:06] <@ehsan> yeah I don't know how much each individual project shaved off
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- # [19:07] <gps> "it's hard to measure." although, if you disable the compile tier, things should still build and thus you can isolate its impact
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- # [19:08] <@ehsan> it doesn't matter much to me, what matters is faster builds :)
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- # [19:08] <gps> indeed
- # [19:08] <decoder> froydnj: if you tell me how to do that, then sure :)
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- # [19:09] <gps> once the library build work is done, we should see another big gain, especially for builds closer to the no-op side of the spectrum
- # [19:09] <froydnj> decoder: well, do you have a tsan tree lying around?
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- # [19:09] <@ehsan> library build work?
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- # [19:10] <decoder> froydnj: yes
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- # [19:12] <froydnj> decoder: and attach
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- # [19:23] <sfink> omni-sheriff: ping
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- # [19:24] <lsblakk> Bas: ping on bug 937972 (needs your review)
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- # [19:24] <Gijs> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ping (cc jaws)
- # [19:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs: yo
- # [19:24] <Gijs> yo
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- # [19:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sfink: ohai?
- # [19:25] <Gijs> can we still cancel nightlies?
- # [19:25] <Gijs> (abort, abort!)
- # [19:25] <Gijs> :P
- # [19:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sure
- # [19:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> why?
- # [19:25] <Gijs> jaws: so we can, if you want to. I am a wuss, so I'm making this your call
- # [19:25] <jaws> Gijs: how likely are you thinking that people will hit the bug you just fixed?
- # [19:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0895ea2b258 - Antonio M. Amaya - Bug 939116 - Apply the TCPSocket.send offset parameter correctly. r=dpreston
- # [19:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e6b742a22142 - Andy Wingo - Bug 932768 - Remove vestigial decompiler hacks from BytecodeEmitter. r=jwalden
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- # [19:26] <Gijs> jaws: the dragOverItem = null error, whenever you drop on a placeholder or on an empty panel bit, IIRC
- # [19:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a906959d7743 - Byron Campen [:bwc] - Bug 906384 - Very simple global rate-limiting based on SimpleTokenBucket. Will tolerate a maximum of 8K/sec over 1 sec, and 3.6K/sec over 20 sec. r=ekr
- # [19:26] <jaws> these nightlies will only be live for < 16 hours before the next one
- # [19:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37c75e242ae0 - Jonas Finnemann Jensen - Bug 937201 - Fix Windows builds without MOZ_ENABLE_PROFILER_SPS. r=BenWa
- # [19:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs: jaws: must be bad if people can't live with it for a day
- # [19:26] <jaws> Gijs: yeah i know, i'm asking how likely people would hit it
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- # [19:26] <sfink> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I think the SM(Hf) build is going to be serving as a canary for mach. Is that red Hf a known mach issue?
- # [19:26] <jaws> RyanVM|sheriffduty: that's why i'm getting at
- # [19:26] <Gijs> jaws: the random placeholder insertion which stay around, if you ever drag through the panel, 80%
- # [19:26] <Gijs> I don't know. :(
- # [19:26] <Gijs> TBH, I have been annoyed by it for a long time
- # [19:26] <jaws> yeah, depends on how much we care about first run
- # [19:26] <Gijs> but only 2 dupes were filed
- # [19:27] <Gijs> and we *are* telling a lot of people to look at it *now*
- # [19:27] <Gijs> they're much more likely to try out the customize mode stuff, esp. with madhava's blogpost.
- # [19:27] <Gijs> (and johnath's)
- # [19:27] <jaws> well, we could respin once we get your patch merged in
- # [19:27] <Gijs> we could
- # [19:27] <jaws> RyanVM|sheriffduty: if it's not going to cause an issue, let's hold back the respin until Gijs' patch gets merged to m-c
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- # [19:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs: jaws: can't promise when the next fx-team merge will be
- # [19:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> might not be until tongiht
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- # [19:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jaws: Gijs: and I doubt we'd bother with new nightlies at that point
- # [19:29] <Gijs> RyanVM|sheriffduty: understood.
- # [19:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so do you still want to cancel them?
- # [19:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2add23ce533 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 939629 - 1/2. Add missing include guards to a couple of Skia headers - r=gw280
- # [19:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86cc4ba9d481 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 939629 - 2/2. Build Skia in unified mode - r=ehsan,gw280
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- # [19:30] <jaws> RyanVM|sheriffduty: rlets keep it then
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- # [19:30] <jaws> Don't cancel the respin
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- # [19:31] <jaws> There are other Australis changes like the tabs that people can play with and a lack of a build for people to run after reading the tweets and blog posts would be unfortunate
- # [19:31] <bz> So a qestion
- # [19:31] <bz> er, question
- # [19:31] <bz> if I currently have tabs on bottom
- # [19:31] <bz> what will happen when my nightly updates to one with australis?
- # [19:31] <jaws> bz: you will have tabs on top
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- # [19:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bd3fb665acfc - Chenxia Liu - Bug 937870 - nsSearchService displays duplicate engine prompt regardless of confirmation set by caller. r=gavin
- # [19:32] <bz> ok
- # [19:32] <jaws> bz: you may be interested in http://aris-at-mozilla.blogspot.ca/
- # [19:32] <Gijs> bz: and you won't be able to switch back.
- # [19:32] <Gijs> well, not without that or a similar add-on, indeed.
- # [19:32] <bz> No other breakage as a result of that pref being set?
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- # [19:32] <jaws> that pref will be ignored
- # [19:32] * bz doesn't use addons because they tend to break too much stuff
- # [19:32] <bz> jaws: ok, thanks
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- # [19:35] <lsblakk> RyanVM|sheriffduty: all beta approvals done, just waiting on a nom for bug 883500
- # [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ok
- # [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sfink: next push is green
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- # [19:39] <mconley> BenWa / ehsan: hey - do either of you recognize what this might be? This is from a clobber build: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3629904
- # [19:40] <@ehsan> looking
- # [19:40] <mconley> BenWa / ehsan: gps theorizes it might be related to the unified build work
- # [19:40] <@ehsan> mconley: that is probably my fault, yes
- # [19:40] <BenWa> looks like it, ill let eh-san respond
- # [19:40] <@ehsan> mconley: where are you?
- # [19:40] <mconley> ehsan: at my desk - I'll come over
- # [19:40] <@ehsan> mconley: I'm in the big room
- # [19:40] <@ehsan> watching the presentation
- # [19:40] <@ehsan> let me step out
- # [19:40] <mconley> ehsan: I'm watching from my desk
- # [19:40] <mconley> ehsan: ok
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- # [19:41] <mconley> ehsan: k, putting on sweater
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- # [19:42] <@ehsan> I love out status updates ;)
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- # [19:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f51e97cf27aa - Benoit Girard - Bug 936864 - Fix logic error in async animation code. r=roc a=lsblakk
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- # [20:08] <philor> that's going to leave a mark
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- # [20:09] <sfink> philor: way back when I set that up, I was guessing things were going to move that way. And now that I use it on my desktop, I kind of like having a job that notices when it breaks. Though I probably shouldn't have piled it on the hazards stuff.
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- # [20:10] <sfink> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah, I saw. And I realize now that you wouldn't recognize it as a known problem, since this *is* the only job going through mach.
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- # [20:10] <sfink> I'll point gps at it
- # [20:10] <sfink> which is a little ironic
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- # [20:10] <Ms2ger> sfink, ... you made mach ptob?
- # [20:11] <gps> sfink++
- # [20:11] <froydnj> ptob?
- # [20:11] <philor> hmm, why is Android jitcrashing on a PSM patch?
- # [20:11] <Ms2ger> Not npotb
- # [20:11] <froydnj> aha
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- # [20:12] <sfink> gps: happened once so far. Surrounding builds are green.
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- # [20:13] <gps> ddddouble timestamps
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- # [20:21] <philor> "_CERT_ForcePostMethodForOCSP? nothing to do with my OCSP patch!"
- # [20:22] <@ehsan> gps: ping
- # [20:22] <gps> ehsan: (autoresponse) content-free ping detected. Please consider providing some additional context so I can address your questions more efficiently.
- # [20:22] <gps> ehsan: pong
- # [20:22] <@ehsan> gps: which reference are you talking about? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=939880#c2
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- # [20:23] <rnewman> is there supposed to be a horizontal 'groove' at the top of the Australis windows?
- # [20:23] <gps> ehsan: oh, hmm. my configure has a reference on line 15705 but my configure.in doesn't. wtf
- # [20:23] <@ehsan> o_O
- # [20:24] <gps> that's the only srcdir reference outside of spellcheck's Makefile.in
- # [20:24] <@ehsan> yeah
- # [20:24] <froydnj> gps fact: providing context in pings reduces response time by 50%
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- # [20:24] <@ehsan> which is why I thought I could remove this
- # [20:24] <@ehsan> where does this thing in configure come from then?
- # [20:24] <gps> ehsan: you still have r+. I think my tree is just whacked
- # [20:25] <KaiRo> Hmm, it's confusing to me in Australis that the bookmarks menu and the Hamburger button look so similar
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- # [20:25] <@bsmedberg> froydnj: aha, we need a @gpsfacts twitter account
- # [20:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ac4f1a35bd8 - Steve Workman - Bug 923458 - ProxyAutoConfig::ResolveAddress should make medium priority DNS requests to use negative cache entries r=mcmanus
- # [20:25] <@ehsan> gps: no I have it in my configure as well
- # [20:25] <@ehsan> gps: not in configure.in
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- # [20:25] <gps> so I'm not smoking crack [unlike Rob Ford]
- # [20:25] <@ehsan> gps: fwiw configure seems to just set that shell variable
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- # [20:26] <@ehsan> gps: stop speaking ill of our great mayor :P
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- # [20:27] <@ehsan> gps: I think this is where that name comes from: PKG_CHECK_MODULES(MOZ_HUNSPELL, hunspell)
- # [20:27] <gps> ehsan: it probably comes from some crazy macro
- # [20:27] <@ehsan> but we don't AC_SUBST that variable anywhere as far as I can tell
- # [20:27] <@ehsan> which suggests to me that the Makefile.in code I removed is dead code
- # [20:27] <@ehsan> is that correct?
- # [20:28] <gps> ehsan: on 2nd thought, I think that reference might actually do something
- # [20:28] <@ehsan> how come?
- # [20:28] <gps> if configure detects extra compiler flags needed by hunspell, the makefile.in adds them
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- # [20:29] <@ehsan> gps: how does the variable move from configure to makefile though?
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- # [20:29] <tbsaunde> ehsan: just try make -C extensions/spellcheck echo-variable-MOZ_HUNSPELL_CFLAGS or whatever it is?
- # [20:29] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: good idea, gimme a sec
- # [20:29] <gps> ehsan: all AC_SUBST variables are defined in Makefile.in
- # [20:30] <@bsmedberg> hrm, my nightly is still up to date. Where's my australis?
- # [20:30] <gps> look at config.status
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- # [20:30] <bhearsum> bsmedberg: looks like it just landed this morning
- # [20:30] <@ehsan> 359 (''' MOZ_HUNSPELL_CFLAGS ''', r''' '''),
- # [20:30] <@ehsan> gps: ^
- # [20:30] <bhearsum> so, it'll be out tomorrow
- # [20:30] <@bsmedberg> bhearsum: yes, I was told we'd be respinning nightly
- # [20:30] <bhearsum> ah
- # [20:31] <bhearsum> they're still running AFAICT
- # [20:31] <bz> gps: I may not finish up review on that build system bug today
- # [20:31] <bz> gps: but if so, should be able to finish tomorrow
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- # [20:31] <bz> gps: It's finicky code. :(
- # [20:31] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: the build is not finished
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- # [20:31] <@ehsan> gps: so, wontfix?
- # [20:31] <gps> ehsan: yeah
- # [20:32] <gps> I just got Australis on OS X Nightly
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- # [20:32] <jld> ...oops. Restarted to see Australis; lost a half-entered bug.
- # [20:32] <gps> oh no - vertical tabs isn't working :(
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- # [20:33] <bz> gps: welcome to the the new clearly more optimal thing?
- # [20:33] * bz is not bitter about changes breaking stuff like debugging mochitests, not at all....
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- # [20:34] <mrbkap> bz: how did australis break debugging mochitests?
- # [20:35] <bz> mrbkap: it didn't
- # [20:35] <bz> mrbkap: but "it's clearly more optimal" test/build changes did
- # [20:35] * mrbkap misunderstood the context.
- # [20:35] <mrbkap> oh, ok
- # [20:35] <bz> mrbkap: months ago
- # [20:35] <bz> mrbkap: and here we are
- # [20:35] <mrbkap> Right.
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- # [20:35] <gps> hmmm. all my addons aren't compatible. I think I'm going to stick on yesterday's nightly for a few weeks
- # [20:36] <bz> mrbkap: where every time I want to debug a mochitest I have to edit some .cpp files and recompile first.
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- # [20:36] <froydnj> bz: that sounds like a not-good decision
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- # [20:36] <bz> froydnj: which?
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- # [20:37] <froydnj> bz: requiring cpp recompiles to debug mochitests
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- # [20:37] <froydnj> bz: unless you are doing something unusual?
- # [20:37] <bz> I dunno that there was a _decision_
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- # [20:37] <bz> Just rewriting code without worrying about edge cases
- # [20:37] <bz> like debugging.
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- # [20:37] <bz> And getting rid of the other version of the code that actually used to work
- # [20:38] <bz> so that we have code that's like the infra code
- # [20:38] <bz> because then you run tests like the infra does
- # [20:38] <bz> of course the infra never tries to _debug_ the tests.
- # [20:38] <bz> And trying to fix debugging breaks some infra edge cases.
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- # [20:38] <bz> Which are clearly more important than developer edge cases, because the infra is not AI and can't work around
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- # [20:38] <evilpie> gps: that sounds really bad file a bug
- # [20:39] <bz> whereas developers are mostly "I" (probably not "A", though) and hence can and do.
- # [20:39] <froydnj> gaia pushbot is A!
- # [20:39] * bz tries to hold on to his non-bitterness mantra
- # [20:39] <bz> froydnj: Oh, infra is all sorts of "A"
- # [20:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1431d2e9c5f7 - Steve Workman - Bug 938803 - Improve DNS debugs to show which path is taken in nsHostResolver::ResolveHost r=mcmanus
- # [20:39] <bz> froydnj: Just not "I"
- # [20:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dba5cd88962a - Steve Workman - Bug 938803 - Change nsDNSPrefetch and nsHttpChannel::BeginConnect to honor cache bypassing in load flags r=mcmanus
- # [20:39] <bz> pusbot also never debugs mochitests. ;)
- # [20:40] <KaiRo> evilpie: a lot of the add-ons that do UI stuff will be incompatible with Australis for sure, that was expected - and anything displaying larger stuff that did fit nicely within the Add-on bar is screwed anyhow
- # [20:40] <bz> pushbot
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- # [20:40] <bz> It already is
- # [20:40] <bz> it commits ugly changesets claiming they're from "pushbot"
- # [20:41] <bz> But are actually full of pus
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- # [20:41] <froydnj> heh
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- # [20:41] <terrence-afk> bz: ping
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- # [20:42] <bz> terrence: ack
- # [20:42] <terrence> bz; hey, turning on exact rooting has a pretty heavy hit on dromaeo
- # [20:42] <terrence> bz: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3630184
- # [20:42] <bz> terrence: mmm
- # [20:42] <terrence> bz: the performance hit is the same percentage regardless of jit, which makes me think it's per-op overhead
- # [20:42] * froydnj wishes for the Nth time that mochitest and mochitest-browser-chrome shared code
- # [20:42] <terrence> bz: any ideas where we should start looking?
- # [20:42] <bz> terrence: Start with the per-test breakdown?
- # [20:42] <@gavin> froydnj: they do share a lot of code...
- # [20:43] <bz> terrence: between an exact rooting build and one without exact rooting?
- # [20:43] <terrence> bz: good idea!
- # [20:43] * terrence looks for the dromaeo breakdown page
- # [20:43] <bz> terrence: See if it's more or less even across the board or if some tests are particularly hard-hit
- # [20:43] <Ms2ger> bz, bug for the debugging thing?
- # [20:43] <bz> terrence: ;)
- # [20:43] <@gavin> froydnj: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873126 would probably help improve that even further
- # [20:43] <bz> ms2ger: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=914925
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- # [20:44] <Ms2ger> Ta
- # [20:44] <terrence> bz: oh, that's the whole page :-/
- # [20:44] <bz> ms2ger: And https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=934040
- # [20:44] <bz> terrence: which is the whole page?
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- # [20:44] <bz> ms2ger: and duplicates thereof
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- # [20:44] <bz> ms2ger: it's only been two months
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- # [20:44] <@ehsan> mconley: also, it's not quite clear to me how I'm supposed to leave Customize mode
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- # [20:45] <@ehsan> mconley: I basically just click around randomly until it happens :)
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- # [20:45] <bz> ms2ger: I figure I'll let it be another year or three before I just give up and drop everything else to work on this
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- # [20:45] <froydnj> gavin: that does look pretty handy
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- # [20:45] * Ms2ger hears a wee little bit of bitterness in bz's voice
- # [20:45] <bz> Ms2ger: no. Not bitter. Not at all.
- # [20:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff409a12b80e - William Chen - Bug 923167 - Update encoding used for compiling javaparser source files. r=hsivonen
- # [20:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2cd9042e2ad - William Chen - Bug 822776 - Update "after after frameset" insertion mode. r=hsivonen
- # [20:45] <terrence> bz: the page that loads once the testing is done; for the dromaeo js tests there are a huge number of sub-tests, so I did not realize the short list for DOM was all of them
- # [20:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a9720e3247fc - William Chen - Bug 937259 - Remove <command> element from the parser. r=hsivonen
- # [20:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/41607a557cad - William Chen - Bug 937003 - Use correct adjusted insertion location for foster parenting in template element. r=hsivonen
- # [20:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b4ceac5a7f9 - William Chen - Bug 705046 - Enable all html5lib tests on Mac OS X 10.7 and 10.8. r=hsivonen
- # [20:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f7720c16993 - William Chen - Bug 797009 - Remove bad assertion in HTML parser. r=hsivonen
- # [20:46] <bz> terrence: ah
- # [20:46] <bz> terrence: do you have dromaeo test run ids for your two test runs?
- # [20:46] <froydnj> bz: huh, that's an interesting bug
- # [20:46] <bz> froydnj: it's an _annoying_ bug is what it is.
- # [20:46] <bz> froydnj: but yes, interesting like bubonic plague is interesting.
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- # [20:47] <Gijs> ehsan: hit escape or click the menu button or click the customize button
- # [20:48] <Gijs> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ping
- # [20:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs: pong
- # [20:48] <Gijs> RyanVM|sheriffduty: does mcmerge list backouts first or something?
- # [20:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yes
- # [20:48] <Gijs> huh, OK
- # [20:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it's a different page
- # [20:48] <Gijs> Ah
- # [20:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> you can just skip to the next one
- # [20:48] <Gijs> But there's also non-backouts in there
- # [20:48] <Gijs> that it *is* resolving
- # [20:48] <Gijs> this is weird
- # [20:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> inconsistent commit messages that the regex doesn't like? :)
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- # [20:50] <@ehsan> Gijs: ok, it's still not obvious :)
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- # [20:51] <Gijs> ehsan: feel free to file a bug if you have a good idea about how to make it obvious / what to do. Kicking is easy, fixing is hard.
- # [20:51] <bz> jmaher: ping
- # [20:52] <@ehsan> Gijs: I'm not kicking, pointing out problems is still valuable even if you don't have a proposal to fix it
- # [20:52] <terrence> bz: http://dromaeo.com/?id=209694 -> http://dromaeo.com/?id=209696
- # [20:52] <Gijs> not if the problem has already been pointed out
- # [20:52] <@ehsan> Gijs: and how would I know if it has?
- # [20:52] <Gijs> because we had this discussion before?
- # [20:52] <@ehsan> you and I?
- # [20:52] <Gijs> you and whoever replied to you in fx-team at the time
- # [20:52] <@ehsan> I don't remember this...
- # [20:53] <@ehsan> and I don't understand why the attitude
- # [20:53] <@ehsan> I'll file a bug regardless
- # [20:53] <bz> terrence: http://dromaeo.com/?id=209694,209696
- # [20:53] <terrence> bz: oh, neat!
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- # [20:54] <bz> terrence: So getAttribute and setAttribute got way slower....
- # [20:54] <bz> terrence: and the prop set
- # [20:54] <bz> terrence: the three pure-JS tests in "dom attributes" are about the same, though the expando ones are a bit slower
- # [20:55] <bz> terrence: similar pattern for the dom query tests
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- # [20:55] <bz> terrence: and for the .childNodes test in dom traversal
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- # [20:56] <bz> Might be worth just writing a standalone microbenchmark based on one of these tets
- # [20:56] <bz> er, tests
- # [20:56] <bz> and then profiling it
- # [20:56] <Gijs> ehsan: maybe it's my memory that's broken, that is possible. It's a discussion I've seen happen too many times. Sorry for taking it out on you, that's not fair.
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- # [20:56] <terrence> bz: great idea
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- # [20:56] <Gijs> ehsan: the problem is, nobody has so far offered a great solution
- # [20:56] <@ehsan> Gijs: np, I filed a bug :)
- # [20:56] <Gijs> see e.g. bug 881827
- # [20:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce4445b22af1 - Ehsan Akhgari - Add a comment for bug 939880, DONTBUILD
- # [20:56] <bz> terrence: let's start with dom-attr, since those tests are really simple
- # [20:56] <Gijs> ehsan: where, ooi?
- # [20:57] <Gijs> It probably needs to block our tracker bug
- # [20:57] <bz> terrence: view-source:http://dromaeo.com/tests/dom-attr.html
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- # [20:57] <Gijs> otherwise we might miss it
- # [20:57] <terrence> bz: was just going to ask :-)
- # [20:57] <@ehsan> Gijs: bug 939943
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- # [20:57] <bz> terrence: let's take the getAttribute test and see what the story is
- # [20:57] <@ehsan> also, why did I not get the Australis first time experience?
- # [20:57] <@ehsan> does anyone know?
- # [20:58] <Gijs> because it's not enabled yet
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- # [20:58] <bz> ehsan: you didn't pay extra for it?
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- # [20:59] <bz> terrence: or setAttribute if we want to avoid the gc pressure of getAttribute
- # [20:59] <@ehsan> bz: for what?
- # [20:59] <@ehsan> ah
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- # [20:59] <@ehsan> that was a joke :)
- # [20:59] * @ehsan is dumb
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- # [21:00] <terrence> bz: this is with --enable-exact-rooing only, so this should only be extra Rooted overhead
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- # [21:01] <bz> ehsan: Yes, sorry. ;)
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- # [21:01] <@ehsan> bz: haha the blame lies on my part ;)
- # [21:01] <bz> ehsan: You also failed to properly spell "Experience (TM)"
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- # [21:01] <bz> ehsan: must be capitalized.
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- # [21:01] <bz> terrence: hm
- # [21:01] <bz> terrence: There should be pretty little going on with Rooted in getAttribute
- # [21:01] <@ehsan> mconley: do you know about The First Time Experience (TM)?
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- # [21:01] <@ehsan> bz: better? ^
- # [21:01] <bz> terrence: let me verify this claim
- # [21:02] <bz> ehsan: much. ;)
- # [21:02] <@ehsan> \o/
- # [21:02] <mconley> ehsan: yes, but Unfocused and MattN know much more than I do
- # [21:02] <@ehsan> mconley: should I file a bug for not getting it?
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- # [21:02] <bz> Yeah
- # [21:02] <mconley> ehsan: no - it's not been activated yet - that's expected.
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- # [21:02] <@ehsan> oh
- # [21:02] <@ehsan> ok
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- # [21:02] <@ehsan> carry on then
- # [21:02] <MattN> right, it's not ready yet
- # [21:03] <MattN> it will probably only be tested in beta
- # [21:03] <@ehsan> that's scary, but ok!
- # [21:03] <bz> terrence: there is no Rooted anywhere on that codepath, in fact
- # [21:03] <bz> terrence: if I read the code right
- # [21:03] <bz> terrence: let me pastebin
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- # [21:03] <MattN> well, the server side is still being assembled
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- # [21:04] <@ehsan> MattN: the server side? is it a video?
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- # [21:05] <MattN> it's interactive but controlled/initiated by mozilla.org
- # [21:05] <MattN> let me link to a video
- # [21:06] <WeirdAl> Who are the major contributors for Promises to our code base? I'm having so much trouble understanding them - and the impl is changing pretty fast - that I need a flowchart...
- # [21:06] <jimm> anyone having trouble getting to mxr?
- # [21:06] <MattN> ehsan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X54Ur_Cp0io
- # [21:06] <terrence> jonco: http://dromaeo.com/?id=209694,209696
- # [21:06] <bz> terrence: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3630282
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- # [21:06] <Ms2ger> WeirdAl, ask annevk, perhaps?
- # [21:06] <@ehsan> MattN: thanks
- # [21:06] <terrence> jonco: http://dromaeo.com/?id=209694,209696
- # [21:06] * @ehsan pulls out headphones
- # [21:06] <terrence> ah hem, now that you're here ^^
- # [21:08] <@ehsan> MattN: do you know how that page talks to chrome? using events?
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- # [21:08] <terrence> bz: I don't see any rooted in there directly :-(
- # [21:08] <bz> terrence: yes, exactly
- # [21:09] <MattN> ehsan: yes, events. That code is on m-c already btw.
- # [21:09] <@ehsan> cool
- # [21:09] <MattN> bug 862998
- # [21:09] <@ehsan> MattN: thans
- # [21:09] <decoder> froydnj: uploaded the disassembly
- # [21:09] <bz> weirdal: baku and nsm
- # [21:09] <MattN> there is an origin whitelist of course
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- # [21:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aacbc603eb67 - Brian Hackett - Bug 938950 - Don't provide full access to compartment/zone/runtime during Ion compilation, r=jandem.
- # [21:10] <nsm> WeirdAl: hey. I don't see the context
- # [21:11] <jorendorff> gps: Do you have a moment to help me understand what I'm looking at in js/src/configure.in?
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- # [21:11] <jorendorff> gps: Or if you'd prefer I can needinfo?you in bug 939505
- # [21:12] <jorendorff> ted: or you ^
- # [21:12] <gps> jorendorff: glandium is a better bet
- # [21:12] <jorendorff> glandium: ?
- # [21:12] <jorendorff> gps: thanks
- # [21:12] <gps> he's our resident m4 expert. he won't be online for another ~2 hours
- # [21:13] <jorendorff> i'll just ni?him in the bug
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- # [21:14] <bz> terrence: Any luck reproducing outside the dromaeo harness?
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- # [21:17] <WeirdAl> nsm: Promises as a concept, I'm just not understanding it. I was hoping to get a diagram illustrating how promises are chained together, and what happens when, say A.reject() gets called, what the flow is from that point.
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- # [21:18] <WeirdAl> some sort of visualization would help immensely
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- # [21:22] <gps> WeirdAl: on that subject, bug 939367 tracks enabling other parts of the tree to generate Sphinx docs. and Sphinx has support for rendering Graphviz diagrams (http://sphinx-doc.org/ext/graphviz.html)
- # [21:22] <gps> https://ci.mozilla.org/job/mozilla-central-docs/Build_Documentation/index.html is the existing Sphinx docs
- # [21:23] * WeirdAl shakes his head
- # [21:23] <gps> not saying it should be used, but it could be
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- # [21:23] <gps> i know a few people have been asking how to generate in-tree docs
- # [21:23] <WeirdAl> in-tree docs are nice, but not related to the question at hand
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- # [21:25] <WeirdAl> I'm asking for a flowchart where the decisions are fulfill/reject points, so I can see in a simple diagram what happens to a chain of Promise objects at each step... even if flowcharts are out of vogue, some kind of picture to explain the words :)
- # [21:26] <gps> yeah, it's confusing. personally, I find promises by themselves to be not very handy. Tasks via Task.jsm, however, make them useful
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- # [21:27] <philor> if anybody wants to land on inbound, you'll need to shove bhackett out of your way
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- # [21:28] <Mook_as> doesn't task.jsm still require a promise-y .then(null, cb) for handling exceptions?
- # [21:28] <evilpie> wow that new plugin notification bar is quite annoying
- # [21:29] <KWierso> philor: on it
- # [21:29] <gps> Mook_as: tasks return a promise, yes. but you only deal with 1 promise instead of several
- # [21:30] <gps> and promises inside the generator function can be caught via try..catch
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- # [21:30] <nsm> WeirdAl: Is anything connected to A?
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- # [21:30] <nsm> when A.reject() is called, it will trigger any functions chained to A.then()/catch()
- # [21:30] <gps> try { yield someFunctionThatReturnsAPromise(); } except (ex) { // if that promise called .error() }
- # [21:31] <WeirdAl> nsm: for the purposes of illustration, yes
- # [21:31] <philor> somebody who knows layout and font reftests: ping
- # [21:31] <nsm> gps: does the above example really work like that? what is error()?
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- # [21:32] <gps> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/JavaScript_code_modules/Task.jsm
- # [21:32] <nsm> gps: promises are supposed to catch thrown exceptions internally and send it through catch()
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- # [21:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/51b8979e2dd6 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset aacbc603eb67 (bug 938950) for bustage on a CLOSED TREE
- # [21:32] <gps> is this promise a+ foo? why do they keep changing the spec :/
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- # [21:32] <nsm> so you'd write SomeFunctionReturningsAPromise().catch( function(err) { err instanceof Error == True (usually) } )
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- # [21:33] <nsm> gps: latest (and accepted by ECMA) spec is https://github.com/domenic/promises-unwrapping
- # [21:33] <gps> yeah, so I don't care what's in the ECMA spec. I care about what we use in our tree :)
- # [21:33] <gps> for me as a firefox js dev, that's whatever is in promise.jsm and task.jsm :)
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- # [21:34] * WeirdAl agrees with gps, with the inclusion of "whatever is coming to promise.jsm/task.jsm soon"
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- # [21:35] <bz> gps: we're working on killing those
- # [21:35] <bz> gps: fwiw
- # [21:35] <bz> gps: in favor of the ECMA stuff
- # [21:35] <WeirdAl> great...
- # [21:35] <gps> bz: good to know
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- # [21:36] <nsm> gps: yea, i'm trying to get rid of that - bug 939636
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- # [21:36] <WeirdAl> nsm: OS.File? That's where my interest in this all started.
- # [21:36] <gps> just as long as I can still use promises as generators. writing procedural-looking code doesn't make my head explode
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- # [21:37] <nsm> WeirdAl: I haven't gotten around to converting that yet, there are a few changes required to our implementation before I can start
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- # [21:38] <WeirdAl> could you file a bug specific to OS.File, please, so I can try to follow it?
- # [21:38] <gps> nsm: you should email the firefox team. lots of people writing code would like to know about this effort
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- # [21:38] <nsm> gps: which list is this?
- # [21:38] <nsm> s/this/that
- # [21:38] <gps> dev-firefox (or is it firefox-dev)
- # [21:38] <gps> firefox-dev@mozilla.org
- # [21:39] <Mook_as> nsm/gps: umm, dev.platform? Since there are probably non-firefox users...
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- # [21:39] <gps> cross post
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- # [21:39] <nsm> will do
- # [21:39] <Mook_as> thanks :)
- # [21:39] <RyanVM> so, who's been playing around with text-overflow lately?
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- # [21:42] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: ping
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- # [21:45] <nsm> WeirdAl: umm... if you could describe a specific example, i could use that to explain
- # [21:45] <@ehsan> mconley: did you file that build bug?
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- # [21:45] <@ehsan> oh you did
- # [21:46] <mconley> ehsan: yeah - and it got r+'d. I'm landing it right now
- # [21:46] <@ehsan> lol
- # [21:46] <@ehsan> good timing on my part then
- # [21:46] <mconley> ehsan: did you just hit it?
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- # [21:46] <@ehsan> no
- # [21:46] <@ehsan> just remembered it
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- # [21:49] <WeirdAl> nsm: ok, in bug 915838 there's a patch with a getDataDirectory function. Two promises, probably not chained together "correctly"
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- # [21:50] * WeirdAl needs a chrome scratchpad
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- # [21:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f25c7ee9d26 - Stephen Pohl - Bug 935258: Tear down swipe animation overlay on popstate events. r=felipe
- # [21:51] <Gijs> WeirdAl: just switch scratchpad to use the browser context?
- # [21:51] <KWierso|sheriffduty> WeirdAl: there is one?
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- # [21:52] <nsm> WeirdAl: the code is correct, but not idiomatic, let me copy that into pastebin
- # [21:53] <WeirdAl> back in a sec
- # [21:53] <WeirdAl> gotta restart
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- # [21:54] <Benvie> anyone else on Windows seeing the return of Firefox trunk fails to link libxul with MSVC 2012 and newer: "error LNK2038 [...] value 'MT_StaticRelease' doesn't match value 'MD_DynamicRelease'", https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=926083
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- # [21:55] <Benvie> oh right, I need to build with MSVC 2010, nevermind
- # [21:55] <@ehsan> mconley: lol thanks for the credit ;)
- # [21:55] <mconley> ehsan: more like "thanks for the responsibility". :D
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- # [21:55] <RyanVM> Benvie: yes
- # [21:56] <@ehsan> mconley: wait. does landing patches imply responsibility? ;)
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- # [21:56] <Gijs> philor: so are those timeouts in the customizableui tests happening anywhere but linux?
- # [21:56] <RyanVM> firebot: bug 939557
- # [21:56] <mconley> ehsan: nope, but writing them does! :D
- # [21:56] <RyanVM> Benvie: bug 939557
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- # [21:56] <RyanVM> firebot: I don't like you anymore
- # [21:57] <Benvie> RyanVM: thanks
- # [21:57] <nsm> WeirdAl: http://nsm.pastebin.mozilla.org/3630534
- # [21:57] <RyanVM> Benvie: backing out bug 937900 does work
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- # [21:57] <@ehsan> mconley: well you just attached a text file to the bug, I hereby deny all responsibilities
- # [21:58] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=939557 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, browsercomps.dll failed to build with lots of mismatches detected
- # [21:58] <RyanVM> firebot: about time
- # [21:58] <firebot> RyanVM: Sorry, I've no idea what 'I don't like you anymore' might be.
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- # [21:59] <KWierso|sheriffduty> RyanVM: maybe bugzilla's slow because of Gijs's mass-close?
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- # [21:59] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: nah, it lagged responding to me too
- # [21:59] <philor> Gijs: not yet, anyway
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- # [21:59] <firebot> RyanVM: Sorry, I've no idea what 'about time' might be.
- # [21:59] <Gijs> philor: that is weird.
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- # [22:00] <WeirdAl> nsm, I like the latter format better
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- # [22:00] <WeirdAl> nsm: could you also respond to the bug in question? It'll help Unfocused with the review.
- # [22:01] <nsm> WeirdAl: ok, so the thing is, when a then callback returns a promise, that promise subsumes the original
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- # [22:01] <nsm> WeirdAl: the way to imagine it is "Promise.then() returns a *new Promise*, which has been resolved to whatever the then()'s first function returned"
- # [22:01] <nsm> ok
- # [22:02] <WeirdAl> uh huh, that much I got :)
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- # [22:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b2bf6c48e32 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 939420 - Fix shell neuter() function to return |undefined| instead of itself. r=jorendorff
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- # [22:04] <WeirdAl> adding .catch to the mix threw me (pun not intended)
- # [22:04] <nsm> WeirdAl: can't find a question
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- # [22:05] <WeirdAl> does catch get called if any of the chained promises fails?
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- # [22:05] <WeirdAl> or just the last one?
- # [22:05] <KWierso|sheriffduty> ehsan: busted static analysis build on your push
- # [22:06] <KWierso|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30717776&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
- # [22:06] <@ehsan> o_O
- # [22:06] <@ehsan> KWierso|sheriffduty: which patch is that?
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- # [22:06] <KWierso|sheriffduty> "Ehsan Akhgari – Bug 939924 - Fix build error: KS.H must be included before codecapi.H in WMF.h. r=cpearce"
- # [22:06] <@ehsan> oh
- # [22:06] <@ehsan> mconley: ^ :P
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- # [22:07] <@ehsan> KWierso|sheriffduty: this is unrelated, that patch is windows only
- # [22:07] <@ehsan> please file this in Core::Build Config
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- # [22:07] <WeirdAl> nsm: for which promises could the catch callback be executed?
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- # [22:07] <mconley> ehsan: heh - I knew I did the right thing. :D
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- # [22:08] <nsm> WeirdAl: I am very confident it will trigger on any promise failing, but let me verify that
- # [22:08] <philor> Gijs: scroll far enough up in the one I'm looking at, there's a "WARNING: Can't allocate graphics resources, aborting subprocess", rather like ye olde OOM
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- # [22:09] <KWierso|sheriffduty> ehsan: will do
- # [22:09] <Gijs> philor: oh. That's... not good.
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- # [22:09] <@ehsan> thanks
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- # [22:11] <nsm> WeirdAl: always triggers, as long as there is no catch catching it earlier
- # [22:11] * philor blames social/ for everything
- # [22:11] <catlee> hm...
- # [22:11] <philor> it's a disease
- # [22:11] <catlee> just had australis crash
- # [22:11] <catlee> but no crash report
- # [22:11] <WeirdAl> nsm: good, it's an express lane from any failure to the catch callback
- # [22:11] <nsm> WeirdAl: also, if a promise that fails is not catch()ed, it will show up in browser console
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- # [22:12] <nemo> ugh.
- # [22:13] <RyanVM> Gijs: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/48fa00afe683 - pretty sure that's the wrong bug #
- # [22:13] <nemo> Australis ☹ ☹ ☹
- # [22:13] <Gijs> RyanVM: yes
- # [22:14] <Gijs> mconley: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/48fa00afe683 ^^
- # [22:14] <WeirdAl> nsm: ok, I think I can start drawing a flowchart based on .then and .catch
- # [22:14] <nemo> is there a pref to get me back the button? the heaven trigram is way too minimalist a menu for me
- # [22:14] <nemo> but apart from toggling CSS, the button had most stuff I needed
- # [22:15] <Gijs> nemo: no. But you can add more stuff to the menu...
- # [22:15] <Gijs> nemo: what do you mean by toggling CSS?
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- # [22:15] <nemo> Gijs: I filed a bug about it, never went anywhere
- # [22:15] <nsm> WeirdAl: have you read this - http://domenic.me/2012/10/14/youre-missing-the-point-of-promises/
- # [22:16] <Gijs> nemo: about what?
- # [22:16] <nemo> Gijs: View->Page Style
- # [22:16] <nemo> Gijs: asked for it to be accessible somewhere under Web Developer
- # [22:16] <Gijs> nemo: where is this bug?
- # [22:16] * nemo hunts
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- # [22:16] <nemo> there was some discussion btw
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- # [22:17] <KWierso|sheriffduty> nemo: menubar is still accessible via alt, if that helps
- # [22:18] <nemo> KWierso|sheriffduty: mm. kinda. but I had gotten used to accessing things through the button. I do get tired of retraining. but I prob should just reenable the old style menu
- # [22:18] <Gijs> RyanVM++
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- # [22:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/63c1f6716755 - Oleg Romashin - Bug 822898 - Implement pointer events. Basic Tests. r=smaug
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- # [22:19] <RyanVM> Gijs: ?
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- # [22:19] <Gijs> RyanVM: updating the milestone on the bug that mcmerge didn't catch and I resolved manually but without updating the milestone :)
- # [22:19] <RyanVM> ah :)
- # [22:20] <WeirdAl> nsm: no, I hadn't, reading now
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- # [22:21] <nemo> Gijs: how odd. not finding it in search of my e-mail on bugzilla. checking local e-mail history
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- # [22:22] <RyanVM> Gijs: hmm, I'm right clicking on a bookmark from the dropdown and Delete is greyed out?
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- # [22:22] <Gijs> RyanVM: all the bookmarks?
- # [22:22] <RyanVM> yes
- # [22:22] <Gijs> RyanVM: unless you're in customize mode, sounds like something we might have broken. Please file & feel free to CC me and possibly :mak
- # [22:23] <nemo> ahhh
- # [22:23] <nemo> Gijs: because I hadn't reported it apparently :D
- # [22:23] <nemo> Gijs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=856787
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- # [22:24] <Gijs> nemo: yeah... doesn't seem likely we'll add a builtin proper toolbar button just for that
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- # [22:24] <nemo> Gijs: well. some way to access it...
- # [22:24] <bhearsum> dolske: is there a general story for wide-mode add-ons in australis? foxclocks isn't really useful in icon mode...
- # [22:24] <nemo> Gijs: is true that "alternate styles" is just one bit of web tech abandoned by the wayside
- # [22:24] <Gijs> nemo: right.
- # [22:24] <nemo> but the "no style" thing sure is handy. I use it a *lot*
- # [22:25] <Gijs> nemo: was it in the Firefox menu, though?
- # [22:25] <nemo> And. not just debugging. Sometimes just to read an article on a horrific website, sanely
- # [22:25] <nemo> Gijs: it is in the old style menu bar. not in the menu button
- # [22:25] <Gijs> Right.
- # [22:25] <Gijs> So we didn't really regress anything :)
- # [22:25] <nemo> Gijs: was the one reason I'd switch to the menu bar pretty regularly
- # [22:25] <RyanVM> Gijs: even better, I deleted the bookmark from the Library but it still shows on the dropdown
- # [22:25] <Gijs> Right
- # [22:25] <nemo> Gijs: no, didn't say you did, was just explaining it as a reason to switch to menu bar permanently
- # [22:26] <Gijs> nemo: right. I don't think we'd add a primary button for it.
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- # [22:26] <Gijs> nemo: you could file a bug for it, but it'd probably be WONTFIXed
- # [22:26] <Waldo> who does QA testing of addons these days, wrt trunk changes that might break addons? wondering if we have some readily-consulted list of the addons that use the JSAPI, which could be tested against a JSAPI change I'm making on aurora
- # [22:26] <nemo> something like... new menu is too minimalist for me, too much relearning, not easy for eye to jump through... menu button is not an option, but menu button is missing something I used a lot, sooo menu bar isn't so bad after all
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- # [22:26] <nemo> Gijs: bug for... allowing us to have menu button back?
- # [22:26] <nemo> I'm confused
- # [22:26] <Gijs> Waldo: I think generally devs grep add-ons mxr
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- # [22:27] <decoder> froydnj: you're suggesting that NS_IsMainThread itself is causing the racy read?
- # [22:27] <Gijs> nemo: no, for adding a toolbar button for that menu
- # [22:27] <@dolske> bhearsum: other than an addon to replace the bar, or using it the manelmenu, not really. theory is those are relatively uncommon.
- # [22:27] <Gijs> (the page style menu)
- # [22:27] <nemo> Gijs: oh...
- # [22:27] <nemo> Gijs: yeah, not worth it
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- # [22:27] <Gijs> RyanVM: I'm not fixing it until you file it. ;)
- # [22:27] <bhearsum> dolske: ahhhh, okay.
- # [22:27] <bhearsum> that's fair
- # [22:27] <bhearsum> does the "addon to replace the bar" already exist?
- # [22:27] <RyanVM> Gijs: I already filed the one
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- # [22:28] <RyanVM> Gijs: I've got other stuff to do now
- # [22:28] <Gijs> Ah, I see it now
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- # [22:28] <Gijs> RyanVM: cool, thanks!
- # [22:28] * philor blinks at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30717285&full=1&branch=cedar#error0
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- # [22:29] <Gijs> RyanVM: hrm, I don't even get a context menu at all on OS X
- # [22:29] <Gijs> sigh
- # [22:29] <Gijs> OTOH maybe that never worked...
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- # [22:29] <Waldo> Gijs: it's a JSAPI change specifically, so it wouldn't appear in addons MXR because it'd affect compiled code
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- # [22:32] <TheOne> look at all those bugmails
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- # [22:33] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: I just switched inbound into its more natural state
- # [22:33] <WeirdAl> nsm: I'm going to bookmark that. Also, nice to see promises in native code, even if they're hidden behind a pref...
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- # [22:34] <nsm> WeirdAl: already enabled for chrome callers
- # [22:34] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: got a backout in before you did that :P
- # [22:34] <KWierso|sheriffduty> but yeah, lets let things settle, I guess
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- # [22:34] <nsm> WeirdAl: and i plan to flip the pref to enable them on tests for content too
- # [22:34] <WeirdAl> nice.
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- # [22:34] <nsm> once everything is converted to new promises though
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- # [22:34] <bhackett> KWierso|sheriffduty: ping
- # [22:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a77bea7ccaa - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset c848ede03acc (bug 938950) for build bustage
- # [22:35] <KWierso|sheriffduty> bhackett: pong
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- # [22:35] <bhackett> KWierso|sheriffduty: that push just needs a clobber, right?
- # [22:35] <Waldo> RyanVM: I beat you, sir
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- # [22:35] <RyanVM> Waldo: that was your push I marked ;)
- # [22:35] <nemo> hm. I guess this is for the best. I forgot just how much stuff there was in the menu bar w/o poking around ♥
- # [22:35] <RyanVM> since *somebody* was taking their sweet time
- # [22:35] <nemo> and I'm putting a bunch of handy icons on that bar too, since I have the space there :)
- # [22:36] <Waldo> RyanVM: I was being *responsible* and trying to answer the qawanted question I just added, rather than spamming the bug twice
- # [22:36] <RyanVM> a likely story
- # [22:36] <Waldo> RyanVM: but you forced me to spam it, you spammer you
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- # [22:36] <RyanVM> Waldo: You know, I've been called a lot of hurtful things in my day
- # [22:36] <WeirdAl> nsm: so in the browser scratchpad, how do I get the native promise impl?
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- # [22:36] <Waldo> RyanVM: but spam is so tasty that can't be an insult!
- # [22:37] <KWierso|sheriffduty> bhackett: feel free to reland with a touch to CLOBBER when the tree reopens :)
- # [22:37] <nsm> WeirdAl: if you have a window around, new window.Promise
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- # [22:37] <Waldo> RyanVM: backscroll here demonstrates my intentions prefigured your bug-poking :-P
- # [22:38] <bhackett> why on earth does adding a new file require a clobber build
- # [22:38] <nemo> Gijs: hm. I see australis is buggy w/ dark themes. Appears to not set color: on the "Restore Defaults" button under customise
- # [22:38] <bhackett> this seems like makefiles 101 stuff
- # [22:38] <WeirdAl> nsm: typeof window.Promise returns undefined in the browser scratchpad
- # [22:38] <nsm> WeirdAl: is the pref enabled?
- # [22:38] <nemo> Gijs: BTW, where is "flexible space" and "separator" in customise? Trying to figure out how to put the icons I added to the right of the menu bar
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- # [22:38] <WeirdAl> duh, of course not :(
- # [22:38] <nemo> Gijs: and there seems to be no way to access the old "customise" which had this
- # [22:38] <nsm> well the window object is itself in content privileges if its a normal page's winodw
- # [22:39] <nsm> window*
- # [22:39] <nemo> wouldn't mind tossing a separator in too
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- # [22:39] <Gijs> nemo: dark OS themes or dark Firefox themes or dark lightweight themes?
- # [22:39] <nemo> Gijs: dark OS theme.
- # [22:39] <Gijs> nemo: what OS?
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- # [22:39] <RyanVM> glandium: ping
- # [22:39] <nemo> Gijs: Ubuntu Linux, MATE (gnome2) desktop
- # [22:39] <WeirdAl> nsm: got it now
- # [22:39] <Gijs> nemo: sounds like you should file a bug about that.
- # [22:39] <Mook_as> nsm: out of curiosity, are there ways to get at a (native) promise without a window?
- # [22:39] <nemo> heh
- # [22:40] <WeirdAl> Mook_as: excellent question: applies for JSM's and components
- # [22:40] <nsm> Mook_as: i'll have a patch for that in a few minutes on Bug 939636, but not right now
- # [22:40] <Gijs> nemo: regarding the customization stuff... there is no longer a way to add separators, flexible space or space using customize mode, because they were found to be confusing and unnecessary for pretty much any user.
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- # [22:41] <Gijs> nemo: and customization mode replaces the old dialog, so there's currently no way to add them without using an add-on.
- # [22:41] <Mook_as> nsm: thanks; I'm not planning on using it _right now_ either, so that works for me :D (I just want to track things for the future - I mostly run on ESR branches)
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- # [22:42] <nemo> Gijs: well...
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- # [22:42] <nemo> Gijs: I can tell you what is confusing
- # [22:42] <nemo> Gijs: dragging an icon to the far right on the bar, and having it appear on the left :)
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- # [22:42] <nemo> Gijs: I thought it would position it where placed in new UI
- # [22:42] <nemo> ah well
- # [22:42] <Gijs> nemo: it should, that sounds like a bug.
- # [22:42] <nemo> Gijs: it isn't
- # [22:43] <Gijs> oh, you mean there's no space inbetween the icons?
- # [22:43] <Gijs> err
- # [22:43] <nemo> Gijs: is the sort of thing that inserting a flexible space automatically based on where the icon was released, would solve
- # [22:43] <nemo> so. I guess that's kind of a UI bug sorta
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- # [22:43] <Gijs> Oh, I see what you mean
- # [22:43] <nemo> but. requires a bit more awareness
- # [22:43] <Gijs> Yeah, I'm not sure if we want to fix that.
- # [22:43] <nemo> on part of the UI
- # [22:43] <Gijs> this kind of thing is easy to understand
- # [22:43] <bhackett> RyanVM: ping
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- # [22:43] <Gijs> "stuff in a toolbar is left aligned"
- # [22:43] <nemo> Gijs: well. having a separator would fix, for sure
- # [22:43] * nemo sighs
- # [22:43] <RyanVM> bhackett: pong
- # [22:43] <Gijs> Otherwise, hwo do you get rid of the separator/spacer?
- # [22:43] <nemo> well. maybe there'll be some addons to solve these things
- # [22:43] <bhackett> RyanVM: is there a way to do a clobber build on an existing push?
- # [22:43] <Gijs> Oh, there will be :)
- # [22:43] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: pong
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- # [22:44] <nemo> Gijs: do it based on whether there are any icons on the right of the space ofc
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- # [22:44] <nemo> Gijs: person drags icon they placed right off
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- # [22:44] <nemo> remove the flexible space
- # [22:44] <Gijs> nemo: http://aris-at-mozilla.blogspot.ca/
- # [22:44] <nemo> easy
- # [22:44] <WeirdAl> nsm: heh, I'd love to see an example of a function being passed a Promise that it's supposed to append .then() conditions to :)
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- # [22:44] <RyanVM> bhackett: on TBPL -> Tree Info...Clobberer
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- # [22:44] <RyanVM> you can clobber whatever platform you want and retrigger the build on your push
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- # [22:44] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: went ahead and filed the bug - new intermittent reftest failure that I think is from roc's recent patches
- # [22:44] * WeirdAl supposes that's a big misuse of Promises
- # [22:44] <Gijs> nemo: I mean, it's not that easy... what happens if you drag an item on the middle of the flexible space - insert another flexible space?
- # [22:44] <nemo> Gijs: yep!
- # [22:44] <nemo> Gijs: well
- # [22:45] <nemo> Gijs: maaaaaybe
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- # [22:45] <nemo> Gijs: left vs right is a simpler concept tho
- # [22:45] <bhackett> RyanVM: thanks
- # [22:45] <nsm> WeirdAl: how would it do that?
- # [22:45] <Gijs> nemo: well, hence "not easy"
- # [22:45] <nemo> Gijs: that level of division might not be worth it
- # [22:45] <Gijs> nemo: anyhow, that sounds like an enhancement bug you could file
- # [22:45] <Gijs> well, is one level worth it? :)
- # [22:45] <nemo> Gijs: "restore flexible space" ? :)
- # [22:45] <Gijs> it's all arguable
- # [22:45] <Gijs> file the bug
- # [22:45] <Gijs> No
- # [22:45] <seth> weird... can't pull from inbound
- # [22:45] <nemo> Gijs: well. it is if there's a huge amount of whitespace
- # [22:45] <nsm> WeirdAl: at least in the new spec, since the promise resolve/reject functions are encapsulated in the callback passed to the promise ctor, that sort of misuse isn't possible
- # [22:45] <nemo> which there certainly is with the menu bar
- # [22:45] <WeirdAl> nsm: ah, excellent
- # [22:45] <Gijs> "Automatically insert/remove flexible spaces to allow adding items at the far end of a toolbar"
- # [22:45] <nemo> I'd like to keep those quick click icons on the right, not left with the text
- # [22:46] <nemo> and I can't do that :-/
- # [22:46] <Gijs> or something to that effect
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- # [22:46] <Gijs> yeah, not without an add-on, no. Sorry.
- # [22:46] <nemo> Gijs: yeah, something like that. and add "color: black" to the Restore Defaults button
- # [22:46] <Gijs> nemo: those are 2 separate bugs
- # [22:46] <mbrubeck> wooo 940,000 bugs....
- # [22:46] <Gijs> but please file both
- # [22:46] <nemo> http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/color
- # [22:47] <WeirdAl> mbrubeck: 40% beer time?
- # [22:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d954a7ebe5ec - Philipp Kewisch - Bug 927073 - Binary compatibility broken for maintenance releases due to strict version-script. r=glandium, a=lsblakk
- # [22:47] <mbrubeck> WeirdAl: Man, and I thought this 9% beer was strong...
- # [22:47] <WeirdAl> :p
- # [22:47] <RyanVM> Waldo: how goes that esr24 backport patch? :)
- # [22:48] <Waldo> uh
- # [22:48] <nemo> Gijs: don't see an Australis category under Firefox?
- # [22:48] <nemo> Gijs: where should these go?
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- # [22:48] <Gijs> nemo: file the color thing under Firefox > Theme
- # [22:48] <nemo> huh...
- # [22:48] <Waldo> RyanVM: for which bug again? 937k?
- # [22:48] <Gijs> nemo: the automatic spacer insertion under Firefox > Toolbars and Customization
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- # [22:48] <Waldo> or 934k, or whichever number
- # [22:48] * Waldo has too many things in the air right now
- # [22:48] <RyanVM> Waldo: the one you're needinfo'ed on
- # [22:48] <WeirdAl> nsm thanks for your time... going to lunch now
- # [22:48] <RyanVM> 919k
- # [22:48] <Waldo> and not enough needinfos generally
- # [22:48] <Gijs> nemo: it's a theme bug that we're not setting the right color (on Linux)
- # [22:48] <nsm> WeirdAl: no problem, happy to help if you have more questions
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- # [22:49] <Waldo> but I guess there's one there, so ^-^
- # [22:49] <Waldo> RyanVM: I have a top man working on it right now
- # [22:49] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor/ryanVM: those xpcshell oranges on inbound are sworkman's fault, yes?
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- # [22:50] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: you're asking the guy who already told you he closed his inbound tab :P
- # [22:50] <nemo> Gijs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=940009
- # [22:50] <RyanVM> looking
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- # [22:51] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: well that's annoying
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- # [22:51] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: certainly seems more likely than wchem
- # [22:51] <RyanVM> wchen*
- # [22:52] <KWierso|sheriffduty> RyanVM: all of them out since neither push ran osx?
- # [22:52] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: might as well, though I'd wager bug 938803 being the culprit
- # [22:52] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: Is there anything special I need to do to get PGO builds for a try run? I tried clicking the button on self serve
- # [22:52] <mattwoodrow> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=70dd9b3af195
- # [22:53] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: yes, you need to manually add it to the config
- # [22:53] <mattwoodrow> :(
- # [22:53] <RyanVM> you can't trigger them through self-serve
- # [22:53] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryChooser#What_if_I_want_PGO_for_my_build
- # [22:53] <mattwoodrow> why is there a button!
- # [22:53] <mattwoodrow> but thanks
- # [22:53] <RyanVM> because buildapi doesn't know the difference between Try and any other random tree where it does work
- # [22:54] <mattwoodrow> oh
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- # [22:54] <wchen> RyanVM: I have a previous try run that is green, I don't think it's me.
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- # [22:54] <RyanVM> wchen: sounds unanimous then :P
- # [22:55] <RyanVM> wchen: green on osx too?
- # [22:55] <wchen> yeah, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=d5d48636b85e
- # [22:55] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: well ain't that something - 10.6 and 10.8 only
- # [22:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48ea769d4745 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 1431d2e9c5f7 (bug 938803)
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- # [22:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c20fdbecf69e - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset dba5cd88962a (bug 938803)
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- # [22:56] <@njn> gkw: valgrind-on-TBPL is getting the right flags again! :)
- # [22:56] <@njn> gkw: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=934542#c22
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- # [22:58] <nemo> Gijs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=940012
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- # [23:01] <shu> ted: ping
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- # [23:02] <decoder> bsmedberg: ping
- # [23:02] <@bsmedberg> decoder: pong
- # [23:02] <decoder> bsmedberg: there is no analysis
- # [23:02] <decoder> tsan is a runtime checker
- # [23:02] <decoder> you are right that the thread should be using 0
- # [23:02] <decoder> but it *is* not
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- # [23:03] <decoder> i dont know what the compiler is doing, but the thread is reading the memory.
- # [23:03] <@bsmedberg> decoder: then there is a compiler bug, but we know that it's harmless since we're not doing anything with the value
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- # [23:03] <jorendorff> gps++ for bug 939367
- # [23:03] <decoder> bsmedberg: yes. my question was more like, can we prevent this sort of (harmless) reordering, to avoid this showing up on tsan
- # [23:03] <decoder> froydnj: ^^
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- # [23:07] <jorendorff> Waldo: hey, what transition work is actually involved in this "put the documentation into the tree" idea?
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- # [23:08] <Waldo> jorendorff: copypasta from the existing MDN pages into suitable code comments, doc comments, whatever the inputs are to sphinx? (I don't know what the inputs are, I just saw gps's post from a month ago saying a tree-generated system existed and investigated no further)
- # [23:08] <Waldo> copypasta plus reformatting however
- # [23:08] <decoder> shu: pong
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- # [23:09] <shu> decoder: when do you plan on landing using low-mem across the board for ASan?
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- # [23:11] <jorendorff> Waldo: ok, well, i'm happy to help once it's a little clearer what the input needs to look like and where the output goes
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- # [23:11] <@bsmedberg> decoder: when you say that it's a runtime checker, what does that mean? How does it do the checking?
- # [23:11] <gps> Waldo: one of the benefits of Sphinx is it will issue warnings when references disappear, etc
- # [23:11] <gkw> njn: \o/
- # [23:12] <gps> for Python, you can also have it test in-line examples
- # [23:12] <gps> although if we did that, we'd want doc generation as part of the build
- # [23:12] <Waldo> we don't have too much python in our code, tho ;-)
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- # [23:12] <gps> Waldo: we could write an extension to have it test other languages :)
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- # [23:13] <Waldo> gps: I am now pondering recursion
- # [23:13] <Waldo> ;-)
- # [23:13] <Waldo> guessing many of our examples/whatever would be C++, tho
- # [23:14] <jorendorff> where is process_install_manifest defined?
- # [23:14] <Waldo> not sure you want to throw that into the mix, necessarily, here, ish
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- # [23:14] <gps> jorendorff: python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/process_install_manifest.py
- # [23:14] <jorendorff> thanks!
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- # [23:15] <jorendorff> gps: ok, what does it do
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- # [23:16] <jorendorff> gps: I'm trying to figure out how to tell someone which headers in js/src are public (i.e. what's installed if you do `make install`)
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- # [23:17] <gps> jorendorff: files defined in EXPORTS?
- # [23:17] <gps> plus whatever js/src/Makefile.in decides to install
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- # [23:18] <jorendorff> gps: EXPORTS doesn't appear to be set in js/src/Makefile.in
- # [23:18] <gps> jorendorff: moz.build
- # [23:18] <jorendorff> gps: great
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- # [23:20] <@bsmedberg> froydnj: decoder: CMOV craziness details in the bug, if you believe random stuff I found on the internet
- # [23:20] <jorendorff> glandium: Is it true that everyone who ever includes js/public/Assertions.h has necessarily already automatically included js-config.h ?
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- # [23:21] <jorendorff> glandium: sorry, make that js/public/Vector.h
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- # [23:24] <gps> man, Australis just crapped all over the graph view of repo history. we should rewrite history before landing large merges like that
- # [23:25] <decoder> bsmedberg: ill ping the tsan devs and ask them for their opinion
- # [23:25] <@bsmedberg> I... disagree
- # [23:25] <@bsmedberg> merges are merges, we should be happy about that
- # [23:25] <jorendorff> amen
- # [23:25] <@bsmedberg> decoder: ok thanks
- # [23:25] <gps> the repo history should be linear if we have a choice in the matter
- # [23:25] <jorendorff> still disagree :)
- # [23:25] <gps> nobody is going to bisect into all those intermediate merge points
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- # [23:26] <gps> we can preserve the original history in some tree somewhere. leave it out of mainline
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- # [23:26] <@bsmedberg> This is a case where the repo history is in fact branched
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- # [23:26] <@bsmedberg> there was a long-lived permanent repository
- # [23:26] <gps> yes. and we can squash all the merge commits
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- # [23:26] <@bsmedberg> but shouldn't
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- # [23:27] <gps> we can agree to disagree. i'm just saying i see little value in having the full merge history in mainline. it's not very relevant except for code archeology. and that has limited use IMO
- # [23:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d19148a6f7eb - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 924928 - Update general Yahoo! search engine icon. r=mfinkle, a=lsblakk
- # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a14c36a25b92 - Makoto Kato - Bug 935499. r=honzab, a=lsblakk
- # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7fed679f0661 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 935903 - Unmark shared script data at start of GC. r=billm, a=lsblakk
- # [23:28] <gps> i think people are afraid of rebasing in general because VCS tools generally suck with distributed rebasing
- # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2a1f51ff962b - Paul Rouget - Bug 935229 - Open unix socket with 666 permissions instead of 600. r=past, a=lsblakk
- # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/55acf28131b7 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 938341. r=smaug, a=abillings
- # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/37fd15101968 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 936670 - Position text rendered runs by the first non-trimmed character in the run. r=longsonr, a=lsblakk
- # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2bcc119c46d9 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 934860 - Part 6: Add a pref to disable single rect painting and disable it for now for causing TART regressions. r=jrmuziel, a=lsblakk
- # [23:28] <gps> i think once distributed rebase is implemented properly, people will have a different view on merges in history
- # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b96a447ece63 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 932501 - Drop nextElementSibling/previousElementSibling from DocumentType. r=smaug, a=lsblakk
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- # [23:29] <Unfocused> gps: uh, kinda important for anyone working on firefox frontend
- # [23:29] <@bsmedberg> code archaeology is a pretty essential tool
- # [23:29] <gaston> lsblakk: are you going to land att from bug 939498 too or i should do it ?
- # [23:29] <tbsaunde> disagree, why wouldn't you want to keep the actual history
- # [23:29] <gps> https://gps.pastebin.mozilla.org/3630984 ewww
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- # [23:30] <gps> I argue you care about the original patch series. the merge commits, not so much
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- # [23:30] <gps> i would have preferred a long-running linear branch merged into m-c. not this atrocity with 50+ parallel branches with ongoing merges
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- # [23:31] <tbsaunde> other than having a complicated graph (but who cares) why do you care?
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- # [23:32] <gps> complicated graphs impact some repo operations in terms of perf and usability
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- # [23:32] <gps> e.g. graph view is nearly useless now
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- # [23:32] <gps> bisects are hard
- # [23:32] <gps> it makes the history harder to understand
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- # [23:32] <tbsaunde> you bisect tool should deal with merges better then
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- # [23:33] <gps> and it does. i wrote a bisect that bisects against push boundaries, not commits :)
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- # [23:35] <jorendorff> My Nightly profile no longer installs updates until I go to Nightly -> About Nightly.
- # [23:35] <jorendorff> This has got to be a bug, right?
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- # [23:36] <froydnj> gps: "distributed rebase"?
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- # [23:36] <@bsmedberg> jorendorff: when you say "installs" what do you mean exactly?
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- # [23:36] <jorendorff> bsmedberg: I mean it doesn't even download them
- # [23:37] <jorendorff> bsmedberg: when i open the About dialog, it *starts* downloading the latest. Like right now, I just opened the About dialog, and it just downloaded one.
- # [23:37] <gps> froydnj: people have an aversion to rebasing because of the "recover from force push" problem
- # [23:37] <jorendorff> bsmedberg: the next time I restart it'll install it.
- # [23:37] <gps> the UI for it is teh crap
- # [23:37] <gps> UX
- # [23:37] <@bsmedberg> jorendorff: how old was your prior build? It only checks once a day.
- # [23:37] <ckitching> Would somebody mind cancelling: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=728ac73eeda1 for me? Still only got publickey authentication...
- # [23:37] <markh> jorendorff: I have the same issue on my laptop which tends to be put to sleep alot after being awake for a very short time - but I can't actually repro it well enough to file a meaningful bug. I did find some other bugs for that issue though when I looked
- # [23:37] <jorendorff> bsmedberg: previous build was from november 8
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- # [23:37] <@bsmedberg> hrm
- # [23:37] <@bsmedberg> jorendorff: sounds interesting, yeah
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- # [23:38] <jorendorff> bsmedberg: i'm interested in diagnosing it, but not sure where to begin.
- # [23:38] <markh> no problem on my desktop, so I've *guessed* it had something to do with backing off on the laptop due to the regular sleeps
- # [23:39] <@bsmedberg> jorendorff: there's a way to turn on update logging... rstrong knows most, maybe bbondy also
- # [23:39] <markh> and of course, every time I've tried to look at it deeply, it worked perfectly :(
- # [23:40] <markh> I am still getting UAC prompts, which I'm surprised isn't a P1 bug!
- # [23:40] <gps> bsmedberg: so I'm working on crash reporter event logging foo. can I call NS_GetSpecialDirectory() from the breakpad exception handler callback or is it not safe?
- # [23:40] <@bsmedberg> no, certainly not
- # [23:40] <@bsmedberg> almost nothing is safe
- # [23:40] <gps> bsmedberg: a superset of that question is "what can I do from the breakpad exception handler callback?"
- # [23:40] <@bsmedberg> allocating memory is not safe, even
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- # [23:41] <gps> ok. so any values I need to query should be stored prior to crash time
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- # [23:41] <@bsmedberg> yes
- # [23:41] <RyanVM> ckitching: done
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- # [23:41] <@njn> froydnj, gkw: looks like all those valgrind-on-tbpl leaks have maybe 5 distinct root causes: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3631039
- # [23:41] <@njn> froydnj, gkw: SpiderMonkey ain't behaving nicely
- # [23:41] <@bsmedberg> yuck
- # [23:42] <@bsmedberg> those can be hard to debug
- # [23:42] <gps> bsmedberg: the other issue is events produced before profile activation
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- # [23:42] <gps> i was thinking we'd write events to 2 locations: 1) Somewhere in UAppData 2) Somewhere in profile
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- # [23:42] <@bsmedberg> gps: I'm happy enough for those to not be recorded until the next normal startup, and then whatever profile that is can slurp them up
- # [23:42] <gps> and events from UAppData would get consolidated into the profile from next run
- # [23:42] <ckitching> Ta.
- # [23:42] <@bsmedberg> but double-writing might work too
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- # [23:43] <gps> bsmedberg: not sure how we'd double write
- # [23:43] <gps> if we crash during startup we need to write an event somewhere
- # [23:43] <gps> i was thinking we'd just set an environment variable telling the crash reporter client where to write events
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- # [23:43] <gps> and populate that variable from xre startup
- # [23:43] <@bsmedberg> we already have that
- # [23:44] <@njn> froydnj, gkw: oh, and that omits the xpc::CreateGlobalObject one, which is the worst
- # [23:44] <@bsmedberg> gps: Get/SetMinidumpPath in nsExceptionHandler.h
- # [23:44] <gps> right. but we're using uappdata. i was hoping to avoid uappdata as much as possible
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- # [23:44] <gps> i didn't want to bloat scope to cover "generate minidumps in profile directory [not uappdata]"
- # [23:45] <@bsmedberg> yeah, ok
- # [23:45] <@bsmedberg> you can just make another API next to that one, for now
- # [23:45] <@bsmedberg> ideally I'd like minidumps to be in the profile dir also
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- # [23:45] <@bsmedberg> but scope creep is bad
- # [23:45] <gps> my thoughts exactly
- # [23:46] <gps> bsmedberg: OK. I think the rest we can tease out during review
- # [23:46] <@njn> well here's something you don't see every day:
- # [23:46] <@ehsan> froydnj: my sympathies on the new peership ;)
- # [23:46] <@njn> (void) new XPCWrappedNativeScope(cx, global);
- # [23:46] <@ehsan> (peerdom?)
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- # [23:47] <froydnj> njn: I think the CreateGlobalObject was actually turning up in dmd mochitest b-c logging
- # [23:47] <@njn> froydnj: the constructor puts |this| on some list, AFAICT, but valgrind claims something in that function is leaking badly
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- # [23:48] <@njn> froydnj: and yes, I've seen it in DMD output too, recently
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- # [23:51] <decoder> shu: once it has r+
- # [23:51] <decoder> shu: the review is still pending
- # [23:51] <@njn> froydnj: though the stack indicates |operator new[]| is involved, which points the finger at AllocateProtoAndIfaceCache, possibly
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- # [23:52] <@njn> froydnj: and a local run has a slightly better stack trace, which indicates that AllocateProtoAndIfaceCache is leaking
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- # [23:53] <@njn> bz (or anyone else): where is the ProtoAndIfaceCache freed?
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- # [23:53] <bz> njn: checking
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- # [23:54] <bz> njn: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/bindings/BindingUtils.h#310
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- # [23:54] <bz> njn: and its various callers
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- # [23:54] <@njn> bz: valgrind claims we're leaking that cache frequently
- # [23:54] <bz> njn: hmm. What's the allocation stack?
- # [23:54] <shu> decoder: okay, i'm waiting on ted for an r? as well incidentally
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- # [23:55] <@njn> bz: there are many, but here's one just from starting the browser and immediately quitting:
- # [23:55] <@njn> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3631085
- # [23:55] <bz> hrm
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- # [23:56] <bz> Let me dig, ok
- # [23:56] <bz> ?
- # [23:56] <@njn> bz: thanks!
- # [23:56] <@njn> bz: this is showing up very frequently on valgrind-tbpl runs, too
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- # [23:57] <bz> nsXPConnect::InitClassesWithNewWrappedGlobal
- # [23:57] <bz> hmm
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- # [23:58] <@njn> bz: not sure if it's related, but valgrind claims lots of leaks via js::GlobalObject::initFunctionAndObjectClasses(), too
- # [23:58] <bz> That _should_ go through WrappedNativeFinalize
- # [23:58] <@njn> (those don't involve CreateGlobalObject, but it sounds kind of similar)
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- # [23:59] <gps> i'm writing my first C++ for Gecko and I can't figure out how strings work. are there decent docs explaining this?
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- # [23:59] <bz> gps: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla_internal_string_guide ?
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- # [23:59] <bz> njn: So I would _think_ stuff coming through mozJSComponentLoader::PrepareObjectForLocation
- # [23:59] <gps> bz: that seems helpful. thanks
- # Session Close: Tue Nov 19 00:00:00 2013
The end :)