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# [00:02] <nsm> mbrubeck: did i need to set clobber?
# [00:03] <mbrubeck> nsm: It looks like it; we'll know for sure when the new build finishes.
# [00:03] <mbrubeck> nsm: Not your fault though; it's a bug in the build system that webidl changes can require clobber.
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# [00:03] <nsm> mbrubeck: i pushed 3 different patches, two of which change the webidl, which one are we talking about here?
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# [00:03] <mbrubeck> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=928195
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# [00:04] <bjacob> ehsan: ping, i am unifying toolkit/crashreporter, but it complains that it can't #include cpp files that exist in the same directory. Does UNIFIED_SOURCES assume that . is in LOCAL_INCLUDES, or something ?
# [00:04] <mbrubeck> nsm: Based on the error, it looks related to https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58f2fbf00c8c
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# [00:04] <mbrubeck> nsm: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30790534&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [00:04] <tbsaunde> bjacob: error message?
# [00:04] <@ehsan> bjacob: we always pass -I. to the compiler
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# [00:05] <@ehsan> bjacob: also -I$(srcdir)
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# [00:05] <bjacob> ehsan: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3637930
# [00:05] <bjacob> tbsaunde: ^
# [00:05] <nsm> ok, guess i'll wait
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# [00:06] <@ehsan> hmm
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# [00:06] <tbsaunde> bjacob: try mach build -v or something to get command lines?
# [00:06] <@ehsan> bjacob: I can't find -I. on the command line
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# [00:06] <bjacob> hah...
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# [00:07] <@ehsan> and neither -I$(srcdir)
# [00:07] <froydnj> crashreporter is built slightly differently iirc
# [00:07] <@ehsan> it's possible
# [00:07] <@ehsan> bjacob: you may need to add the appropriate -I's
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# [00:07] <bjacob> ehsan: is there a way i can do it once and for all or do i have to edit all the mozbuilds ?
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# [00:08] <philor> of course, since the fix for webidl-changes-need-clobber landed five hours ago, gps really hopes that wasn't what it was
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# [00:08] <RyanVM|afk> philor: some of it did anyway
# [00:08] <@ehsan> oh
# [00:08] <@ehsan> bjacob: hang on
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# [00:09] <philor> ah, indeed
# [00:09] <@ehsan> bjacob: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/crashreporter/google-breakpad/src/common/Makefile.in#38
# [00:09] <@ehsan> try preprending -I. -I$(srcdir) there?
# [00:09] <@ehsan> *before* LOCAL_INCLUDES
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# [00:10] <bjacob> ehsan: thanks!
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# [00:11] <bjacob> ehsan: there are many subdirs there, all with their own Makefile.in. Can i make this change in one place?
# [00:13] <bjacob> ehsan: nvm, changing them all
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# [00:15] <@ehsan> bjacob: don't think so
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# [00:17] <philor> bjacob: looks like gonk isn't entirely happy about being unified
# [00:17] <philor> probably like its civil wars and occassional genocides
# [00:17] <philor> liked
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# [00:17] <bjacob> philor: ouch, looking
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# [00:18] <bjacob> philor: can you back me out? sorry
# [00:18] <philor> bjacob: nope, I'm back at work now
# [00:18] <bjacob> philor: ah sorry, let me try to do it quickly then
# [00:19] <philor> bjacob: CLOSED TREE, two words, in the commit message
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# [00:20] <@ehsan> philor: keep me posted ;)
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# [00:22] <bjacob> ehsan: i messed my inbound tree, can you back out 6f476f02c21e for me?
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# [00:23] <@ehsan> bjacob: sure
# [00:23] <bjacob> thanks
# [00:23] <@ehsan> bjacob: what shall I put in the commit message?
# [00:23] <bjacob> backed out for bustage CLOSED TREE
# [00:23] <@ehsan> k
# [00:24] <@ehsan> bjacob: done, can you comment on the bug etc please?
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# [00:24] <bjacob> o
# [00:24] <bjacob> k
# [00:24] <@ehsan> ty
# [00:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/21a8de163f5b - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 6f476f02c21e (bug 940129) for build bustage on a CLOSED TREE
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# [00:26] <@bsmedberg> and what it does do seems to depend on hashtable conflicts
# [00:26] <@njn> philor: when backed-out unification patches are re-landed, I hope to see some Wiedervereinigung references
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# [00:31] <philor> a thousand pending Mac and Tegra tests on what appears to be a write-only metro twig doesn't smell like a wise use of resources
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# [00:33] <mbrubeck> philor: Go for it.
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# [00:34] <mbrubeck> There *are* a fair number of changes to desktop Firefox code there, but we don't need a full test run on every changeset if we can't afford it.
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# [00:34] <mbrubeck> And most changes there are totally NPOTB on Android and B2G.
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# [00:43] <philor> mbrubeck: not really a matter of "on every" - like for 10.6, the only two possibilities are "getting tests on whatever one cset winds up being tip in, um, four or five hours" or "not doing any at all"
# [00:44] <mbrubeck> philor: Probably better to let coalescing take its course than to just cancel everything.
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# [00:44] <mbrubeck> We *are* touching a lot of shared code there.
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# [00:45] <philor> yeah, I was really only after the tegras, where we can't much afford even the one coalesced run in places where we don't need it
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# [00:46] <philor> I should probably look at try, and kill pointless runs of android and runs that are already obviously totally broken, but try depresses me
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# [00:46] <philor> even when it doesn't have a ten hour and forty minute backlog of tegra jobs
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# [00:57] <philor> hmm, what's that browser-chrome bustage?
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# [01:02] <mbrubeck> I suspect this one is nsm, since the test is failing on SessionStore.jsm methods that all use promises.
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# [01:05] <glandium> so... i have a windows firefox build for which i don't have a pdb, and it crashes at startup. Fine. I run it in msvc, and i can get to the crash site. Fine. Now, I set a breakpoint before that crash, hit restart (ctrl-shift-f5) and... the breakpoint is gone and it catches the crash
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# [01:06] <nsm> mbrubeck: it uses promises that are not the promises i'm touching
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# [01:06] <mbrubeck> ah, good point
# [01:07] <philor> these are not the promises we're looking for?
# [01:07] <glandium> someone around knows about breakpoints in msvc without pdb?
# [01:07] <mbrubeck> well, we should know in a moment whether to blame bsmedberg instead
# [01:07] <nsm> it is possible there is some name shadowing going on, but DOM Promise should not be enabled for chrome code
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# [01:09] * nsm has to finish a build before he can test this
# [01:09] <mbrubeck> yeah, and SessionStore.jsm definitely imports Promise.jsm which will bind "Promise" to its own JS implementation
# [01:09] <mbrubeck> so my new theory is that bsmedberg's patches changed the exception that gets thrown, breaking this comparison: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/sessionstore/test/browser_345898.js#14
# [01:10] <mbrubeck> yup, it's bsmedberg
# [01:11] <philor> nobody expects the NS_ERROR_INVALID_POINTER
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# [01:12] <mbrubeck> If this test used is() instead of ok() then it would be a lot more obvious what the one-line fix is...
# [01:12] <philor> its two main weapons are fear, surprise and 2147942487
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# [01:15] <khuey> would have been better if it were NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED
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# [01:15] <philor> that'll be the next patch
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# [01:15] <philor> or it would have been, no point now that you do
# [01:16] <glandium> khuey: hey would you know how to make msvc happy with breakpoints without a pdb?
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# [01:21] <mbrubeck> whoa, huge drop in PGO linker memory!
# [01:21] <mbrubeck> thanks to unified sources, no doubt
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# [01:21] <mbrubeck> http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html#tests=[[205,63,8]]&sel=none&displayrange=365&datatype=running
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# [01:22] <glandium> waw, although not entirely surprising
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# [01:23] <glandium> roc: in the end, maybe gkmedias can die :)
# [01:24] <@roc> awesome
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# [01:24] <philor> hmm, bunch of unknown failures in mochitest-3, starting with shu's push
# [01:24] <philor> BURN THE WITCH
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# [01:25] <glandium> roc: i'll rebase my patch and push to try to see how much it adds later today
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# [01:26] <mbrubeck> philor: The evidence is not yet damning enough for me... do you have a duck handy?
# [01:26] <shu> philor: seriously? that patch does nothing
# [01:26] <glandium> shu: famous last words :)
# [01:26] <cpearce> anyone seen this error: 13:50.94 msvcprtd.lib(MSVCP100D.dll) : error LNK2005: "public: static double __cdecl std::numeric_limits<double>::infinity(void)" (?infinity@?$numeric_limits@N@std@@SANXZ) alreadydefined in js_static.lib(digitlst.obj)
# [01:26] <cpearce> I'm building tip with VS2010.
# [01:26] <shu> glandium: it's not even possible to be triggered unless you have firebug installed!
# [01:26] <shu> glandium: that codepath, that is
# [01:27] <glandium> cpearce: 940324
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# [01:27] <mbrubeck> shu: Yeah, and these failures are too intermittent to pin on a single push yet.
# [01:27] <cpearce> glandium: thank you.
# [01:28] <shu> philor: seriously, my patch cannot possibly cause M3 failures
# [01:28] <shu> i will buy you a bottle of something if it does
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# [01:31] <philor> of course, we already know exactly how much seth weighs, and making failures go back in time would require... witchcraft
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# [01:35] <shu> gps: ping
# [01:35] <gps> shu: (autoresponse) content-free ping detected. Please consider providing some additional context so I can address your questions more efficiently.
# [01:35] <gps> shu: pong
# [01:35] <shu> gps: when running ./mach mochitest*, it seems like some lines stdout are getting dropped, and i can't figure out why
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# [01:36] <shu> gps: i have some local instrumentation that sometimes disappears when running locally, but everything is fine in the TBPL logs
# [01:36] <shu> gps: have you ever seen this happen?
# [01:36] <shu> gps: also -l doesn't seem to work either
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# [01:36] <gps> shu: that's weird. sounds like a flushing problem
# [01:36] <jhammel> smells likely
# [01:37] <shu> gps: a problem with whose flushing? python's?
# [01:37] <mbrubeck> tastes like chicken
# [01:37] <gps> shu: ask the #ateam people, as they maintain the mochitest mach code
# [01:37] <jhammel> likely mozprocesses
# [01:37] <shu> gps: okay, thanks
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# [01:44] <TimAbraldes> cpearce: yes I'm getting that same issue
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# [01:44] <cpearce> TimAbraldes: building with test disabled seemed to work for me. not ideal though of course.
# [01:44] <TimAbraldes> cpearce: ac_add_options --without-intl-api
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# [01:45] <cpearce> ah, that's a little better, thanks TimAbraldes
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# [02:08] <briansmith> my local build of m-i (cset 21a8de163f5b) is failing to build jsapi-tests.exe: https://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/3638481
# [02:08] <briansmith> clobber build
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# [02:09] <briansmith> Windows 7 + VS2010
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# [02:11] <mbrubeck> briansmith: According to TimAbraldes and cpearce a little while ago, --disable-intl is a workaround
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# [02:11] <mbrubeck> briansmith: I mean "ac_add_options --without-intl-api"
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# [02:12] <mbrubeck> I don't see a bug filed yet.
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# [02:12] <glandium> mbrubeck: 940324
# [02:12] <glandium> briansmith: ^
# [02:12] <mbrubeck> thanks
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# [02:13] <glandium> There are three different build errors due to 912371
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# [02:14] <BenWa> Umm, I just cloberred in 8:12min on mac. This morning the same clobbered took 10 mins
# [02:14] <BenWa> bjacob: ^^
# [02:14] <m_kato> glandium: backout soon
# [02:14] <BenWa> This is amazing!
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# [02:15] <briansmith> m_kato: thank you
# [02:15] <reuben> BenWa: whoa, is that on a haswell machine?
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# [02:15] <BenWa> reuben: It was at 12 mins before we started unifying sources
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# [02:16] <BenWa> and I'm sure some other build system changes have improved things too
# [02:16] <reuben> I'm on a MacBookPro10,1 and I get 20-something min clobbers
# [02:16] <seth> BenWa: is that with or without ccache?
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# [02:16] <BenWa> ccache isn't enabled
# [02:16] <seth> not bad!
# [02:16] <Unfocused> m_kato: soon as in a few minutes?
# [02:16] <BenWa> reuben: Well try again with tip see if it got faster
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# [02:17] <reuben> BenWa: well even if it did, it still wouldn't be close to 8min :P
# [02:18] <BenWa> Yes. I feel like the crazy L4 cache helps the compiler
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# [02:20] <BenWa> ohh maybe it wasn't a full clobber *re runs it*
# [02:20] <glandium> BenWa: isn't the l4 cache used for gpu/cpu memory sharing only?
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# [02:20] <glandium> mmmm looks like it's also used as victim cache for l3
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# [02:21] <jgilbert> yeah, pretty sure it's usefully caching in general
# [02:21] <BenWa> I'm using the discrete GPU so if its shared then the GPU should add no pressure to it
# [02:21] <BenWa> glandium: It's the only thing haswell did that would explain how it improved our build time so much. Anyways my best theory anyways
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# [02:22] <BenWa> Yea, seems to be shared by this test: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6993/intel-iris-pro-5200-graphics-review-core-i74950hq-tested/3
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# [02:24] <glandium> yeah, 128MB of l4 cache would certainly explain why haswell is a big jump
# [02:24] <glandium> i should probably get one
# [02:24] <BenWa> Sign me up for a 4GB L5 cache :)
# [02:24] <BenWa> glandium: I don't know if anyone did tests to see how much it improves non mac TBH
# [02:25] <Jesse> i got a new haswell mbp today. build firefox debug in under 11 minutes.
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# [02:25] <glandium> BenWa: njn did
# [02:25] <BenWa> results?
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# [02:25] <glandium> BenWa: https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2013/09/12/bleg-for-a-new-machine-2/
# [02:25] <Jesse> hmm or maybe i accidentally made an opt build instead
# [02:25] <BenWa> glandium: BTW are there big challenges to replacing the compile tier with something like make binaries?
# [02:26] <glandium> BenWa: that's what i'm currently working on
# [02:26] <BenWa> Ohh, cool :)
# [02:26] <glandium> BenWa: there are a *lot* of things involved
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# [02:27] <BenWa> glandium: I'll be patient. What does 'binaries' support exactly? cpp/header changes only? I added a fastxul.sh script to build to use it. It wasn't trivial to use make binaries with b2g since they don't really use mac
# [02:28] <BenWa> for b2g*
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# [02:28] <BenWa> mach*
# [02:28] <glandium> BenWa: yeah, cpp/headers
# [02:28] <BenWa> idl, ipdl, etc explictly not supported? I noticed moz.build changes work well too when adding files
# [02:29] <glandium> nope
# [02:29] <BenWa> ok ty
# [02:29] <glandium> neither changes to nspr, nss, icu and ffi
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# [02:32] <BenWa> reuben: scratch that 8 mins :(. I'm at 10:38 mins with a proper clobber
# [02:32] <reuben> BenWa: yea, I think that matches the times seen by gps on his blog post, and you're probably on a Haswell machine
# [02:32] <BenWa> yes
# [02:32] <reuben> I'm on a first generation retina MBP with Ivy Bridge
# [02:32] <reuben> oh well, 20-something is not too bad
# [02:33] <BenWa> Nope, hopefully 5th gen will see another big bump but I doubt it
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# [02:34] <gps> BenWa: next generation should be using 14nm. i expect a big jump. remember, haswell was the smaller update in the tik-tok cycle
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# [02:34] <BenWa> gps: but I doubt the cache will change?
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# [02:35] <gps> i dunno. i wouldn't be surprised if 6 or 8 physical cores were the default
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# [02:49] <philor> so much for reopening
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# [02:51] <rnewman> philor: you ever seen this or similar before? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=940803
# [02:51] <rnewman> (question also applies to other frequent starrers)
# [02:54] <philor> rnewman: doesn't smell familiar
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# [02:54] <rnewman> thanks for sniffing, so to speak
# [02:55] <gkw> m_kato: ping re bug 912371
# [02:55] <gkw> m_kato: it'll be nice if we could first back it out?
# [02:55] <gkw> tbpl isn't affected because on TBPL there usually isn't cross compiling involved
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# [02:56] <gkw> i.e. 32-bit Linux compiles 32-bit Firefox, 64 for 64, and Mac TBPL boxes don't compile 32-bit I think, but we on the fuzzing machines do
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# [02:56] <m_kato> gtw: tree closed
# [02:57] <froydnj> gkw: actually, 32-bit linux builds are cross-compiles nowadays, I believe
# [02:57] <froydnj> gkw: and the mac builds build 32-bit and 64-bit
# [02:57] <m_kato> gkw: I will backout it, I want treee open.
# [02:57] <philor> a familiar feeling
# [02:57] <m_kato> gkw: root cause is bug 940246 comment 12
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# [02:58] <philor> alas, releng is having a... what's that word you're supposed to put before "week", not drinking but something else...?
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# [02:58] <philor> "work", that's it
# [02:58] <froydnj> "off"?
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# [02:59] <philor> so if they don't notice their blocker soonish, someone with access to the phonebook is going to need to call joduinn's cell
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# [03:01] <@njn> oh, Australis doesn't allow closing a tab via the "X" without bringing it to the foreground first... is that new?
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# [03:03] <jgilbert_> oof, that's annoying
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# [03:03] <philor> shu: you're not going to like this...
# [03:04] <shu> philor: yes?
# [03:04] <philor> shu: starting to see several https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30800636&tree=Mozilla-Inbound#error19
# [03:05] <philor> well, okay, two isn't quite several
# [03:05] <shu> philor: since what, https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de3dd3c48114 ?
# [03:05] <aja> njn: not new in australis anyway...been that way on UX since...forever?
# [03:06] <@njn> aja: ok... I'm used to Tree Style Tab, which allows it. I currently have TST off because it's busted in Australia
# [03:06] <@njn> *Australis
# [03:06] <philor> shu: yeah, 10.7 debug skipped you, I just retriggered it, but the next two pushes
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# [03:06] <rnewman> froydnj: ^5 for "off"
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# [03:07] <aja> njn: i assume for touch reasons
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# [03:07] <shu> philor: it is intermittent or not intermittent?
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# [03:08] <glandium> aja: but it's not like that on nightly before australis, is it?
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# [03:08] <philor> shu: only two have finished since, and they've both failed
# [03:08] <aja> glandium: nope
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# [03:09] <glandium> although, with sufficently enough tabs, the close button doesn't appear on background tabs
# [03:09] <glandium> (before australis)
# [03:09] <glandium> njn: fwiw, i use middle-button click to close background tabs
# [03:09] <glandium> no idea if that works on something else than linux, though
# [03:10] <@njn> glandium: oh, I didn't know about middle-click... I guess because I didn't need to :)
# [03:10] <shu> philor: i honestly see no connection between my patch and those failures
# [03:10] <@njn> does anyone have the slightest idea how the PGO profiling runs work? I'm seeing some really weird behaviour in the Valgrind runs, which execute the PGO workload. E.g. Firefox appears to fork itself 21 times
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# [03:10] <jesup> njn: because it's *so* discoverable!
# [03:11] <Earth4|away> Ugh, Win32 builds are busted again.
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# [03:11] <glandium> njn: all i know is it runs ./build/pgo/profileserver.py
# [03:11] <@njn> glandium: yeah... I'll have to look at that code
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# [03:11] <glandium> jesup: yeah, i don't remember how i figured it out
# [03:12] <glandium> maybe i read it somewhere
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# [03:12] <shu> philor: gcli tests don't do anything with debugmode
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# [03:13] <philor> shu: okay, I'll retrigger below you too, see if I can find someone else to blame
# [03:13] <jesup> Like Alt un-hiding the menus (at least people *might* know alt is the shortcut for menus, though I'm sure my parents don't)
# [03:13] <philor> 10.6 too, though it's only one test
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# [03:16] <@njn> jesup: I know about alt, but didn't think to try it
# [03:17] <shu> philor: it seems possible it's caused from the pileup of earlier errors?
# [03:17] <shu> philor: if current tip is green, isn't that okay?
# [03:17] <jesup> I had to ask, and I know about Alt. I might have found it eventually
# [03:17] <jesup> I never ever use Alt for menus though, so maybe not
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# [03:18] <philor> shu: yes, but that's a pretty big if, since it would mean that the failure is due to building widget/gonk, the b2g widget layer, in unified mode :)
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# [03:19] <philor> shu: one of the pushes below you where we skipped running either one, possibly including the one where we skipped building Mac at all, is a much better bet
# [03:20] <philor> and since we're closed for infra, and releng is probably all out drinking, we'll have plenty of time to find out with retriggers
# [03:20] <philor> assuming my retriggered build can upload, that is
# [03:20] <@roc> njn: "oh, Australis doesn't allow closing a tab via the "X" without bringing it to the foreground first" ... it does for me.
# [03:20] <@bz> philor: I assume someone is on the tree closure bug?
# [03:21] <@njn> roc: ah, open enough tabs and the "X"s disappear
# [03:21] <@bz> roc: So efaust and I have started putting some basic info about arguments, not just return values, in the jitinfo structs
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# [03:21] <@roc> njn: ah, ok.
# [03:21] <philor> bz: releng workweek
# [03:21] <@njn> roc: I'm clearly a noob at default horizontal tabs
# [03:21] <@bz> roc: Need to think about how to express things like the pattern-matching stuff we wanted....
# [03:21] <philor> thus my repeated mention of drinking
# [03:21] <@bz> philor: awesome
# [03:22] <@bz> philor: Could just call it a day and sleep?
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# [03:22] <@bz> roc: So far I'm mostly using it to try to DCE dumb benchmarks. :(
# [03:22] <@njn> ted: ping?
# [03:23] <@roc> you mean Sunspider?
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# [03:23] <shu> philor: but i mean, suppose i get backed out because i look like the likely culprit. i reland now that the existing oranges have cleared up, and it's still green. what's the difference there?
# [03:23] <@roc> I guess not since that doesn't really use the DOM
# [03:23] <@bz> roc: Peacekeeper
# [03:23] <philor> shu: I haven't backed you out yet
# [03:23] <@bz> roc: it has some getElementsByTagName benchmarks....
# [03:23] <@bz> roc: that look like while (testIsrunning()) document.getElementsByTagName("foo");
# [03:23] <@bz> roc: not assigned anywhere
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# [03:24] <@roc> haha
# [03:24] <@bz> roc: so once I teach the JIT that there are no side-effects....
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# [03:24] <philor> shu: one of two things will happen - it'll be green on the push below you and orange/red on your push, and I will, or it'll be something else and I won't
# [03:24] <@bz> roc: (which is a bit non-trivial; involves knowing what we're passing to the method)
# [03:24] <@roc> why is that?
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# [03:25] <@bz> roc: because getElementsByTagName({ toString: function() { window.x++; } })
# [03:25] <shu> philor: has those tests been timing out on every 10.6/10.7 above me?
# [03:25] <@bz> roc: yay JS
# [03:25] * shu looks
# [03:25] <philor> well, "it'll be same-orange or different-orange below you" since it's in a huge range of other permaorange
# [03:25] <@bz> roc: luckily, we do in fact know that what we're passing in is a string, not an object. ;)
# [03:26] <@roc> bz: but doesn't WebIDL guarantee that toString gets called exactly once, no matter what method you're calling?
# [03:26] <shu> philor: yeah, it looks pretty consistently timing out on all the 10.7s that have completed
# [03:26] <philor> mmm, linux32 too
# [03:26] <@roc> oh, but you need the types of arguments to know that I guess. OK.
# [03:26] <@bz> roc: right
# [03:26] <philor> maybe we skipped fewer of them
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# [03:27] <philor> or maybe that one is intermittent while the mac isn't, that's less convenient, not more
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# [03:28] <shu> how come we skipped over so many for 10.6 and 10.7?
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# [03:30] <philor> how far back do you want me to start the story? :)
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# [03:31] <philor> we decided it would be a good idea to have a shared pool of slaves that both run Talos perf tests, which have to be on identical hardware, and all other tests, which do not
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# [03:31] <philor> for practical and licensing reasons, OS X tests pretty much have to run on Apple hardware
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# [03:32] <philor> Mac mini hardware specs change pretty frequently, so essentially we get one chance to decide how many minis we want for running a particular version of OS X
# [03:33] <philor> we have not, as yet, ever once made the mistake of buying too many of a particular mini revision
# [03:33] <shu> heh
# [03:33] <philor> not even close, so far away from buying too many that we can't even see too many over the horizon
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# [03:35] <@roc> it's the MFBT version of nsAutoPtr
# [03:35] <khuey> why do we have both?
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# [03:36] <khuey> can we just replace all of them with std::unique_ptr?
# [03:36] <@roc> I don't know
# [03:36] <@roc> maybe
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# [03:37] <khuey> ok
# [03:37] <khuey> I'll quit asking silly questions now
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# [03:38] <@roc> you should talk to Waldo about it
# [03:38] <@roc> I did not like the name
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# [03:39] <@roc> I think it's inspired by Boost
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# [03:39] <seth> _try_ is closed?! o.O
# [03:40] <seth> that was all we had!
# [03:40] <tbsaunde> khuey: if you do something about stlport and ancient libstdc++ on mac I think so
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# [03:40] <tbsaunde> probably trying to save capacity for main trees :/
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# [03:41] <tbsaunde> seth: not available on 10.6 aiui :(
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# [03:41] <@roc> yeah replacing everything with unique_ptr sounds nice
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# [03:41] <khuey> tbsaunde: hmm, is unique_ptr a C++11ism?
# [03:41] <tbsaunde> khuey: yes because it uses rval refs
# [03:41] <khuey> I think we're using rval refs unconditionally now
# [03:41] <seth> tbsaunde: no libc++ on 10.6?! oh man, we're really between a rock and a hard place
# [03:42] <tbsaunde> khuey: sure, but we still the class to come from somewhere, but we could certainly put one in the tree if someone does the work
# [03:42] <tbsaunde> *need the class to come from somewhere
# [03:43] <tbsaunde> I've been tempted to just fix nsAutoPtr to use rval refs and call it a day
# [03:43] <@roc> getting everyone behind unique_ptr sounds great if we can
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# [03:44] <khuey> I think ideally we'd do what we did with stdint
# [03:44] <khuey> until we can drop all the compilers that don't have a built in
# [03:44] <tbsaunde> roc: I don't think anyone's opposed just to lazy to do it
# [03:44] <@njn> khuey: MFBT is just Waldo's style and naming playground
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# [03:45] <khuey> njn: yeah, that's why I don't like mfbt ;-)
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# [03:45] <@njn> khuey: but it combines the best parts of SpiderMonkey and Gecko's styles in an exciting new combination!
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# [03:46] <@roc> it's not fair to diss Waldo behind his back :-)
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# [03:47] <@njn> khuey: and don't get me started about storage/ style
# [03:47] <khuey> roc: he's in the channel, he can read the scrollback
# [03:47] <khuey> njn: storage/ is awful
# [03:47] <@roc> I don't think that counts
# [03:47] <@njn> khuey: awful, but most importantly, *different*
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# [03:48] <khuey> heh
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# [03:54] <glandium> interesting, i had a try build upload perfectly fine
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# [03:57] <J13R> Hello!
# [03:57] <J13R> what does "WARNING: NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS(rv, rv) failed with result 0x80500001:" mean?
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# [03:59] <J13R> or how do I find out?
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# [04:01] <jcranmer> J13R: http://james-ross.co.uk/mozilla/misc/nserror
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# [04:07] <@njn> who should review patches touching netwerk/dns/ ?
# [04:07] <khuey> sworkman maybe
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# [04:09] <@njn> khuey: thanks
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# [04:15] <J13R> how can I printf the filename of a nsIFile?
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# [04:23] <khuey> so is it possible to make the australis UI take up less vertical space?
# [04:23] <khuey> it takes up just enough space on my machine to get gmail to make everything smaller :-/
# [04:24] <J13R> I wrote myFile->path, but get ‘class nsIFile’ has no member named ‘path’ ... but https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XPCOM_Interface_Reference/nsIFile claims there is a AString target
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# [04:25] <glandium> is there any reason to keep try closed?
# [04:25] <fabrice> J13R: you want myFile->GetPath(...)
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# [04:26] <J13R> ah, thanks fabrice
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# [04:27] <glandium> khuey: on windows, last time i checked australis took less vertical space than non-australis
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# [04:29] <J13R> fabrice: error: ‘class nsIFile’ has no member named ‘getPath
# [04:29] <bjacob> please please please try reopen before i go to sleep
# [04:29] <fabrice> J13R: GetPath() with a G not a g
# [04:29] <khuey> glandium: nope, definitely takes more
# [04:30] <J13R> oh silly me, thanks again
# [04:30] <khuey> glandium: the tabs are definitely longer vertically
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# [04:33] <reuben> jcranmer: that's handy, thanks for the link
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# [04:35] <J13R> I'm gonna start crying soon ... I just want to printf the path of a file :(
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# [04:36] <J13R> now I have to create a nsAString, pass it to GetPath() and then convert it to a char*?
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# [04:36] <jdm> J13R: use nsAutoString, and NS_ConvertUTF16ToUTF8(str).get() for the char*
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# [04:37] <reuben> J13R: it's not just you, gecko strings are crazy complex
# [04:38] <tbsaunde> or you could just poke around in the file with a debugger...
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# [04:40] <Waldo> khuey: as far as I know, we don't have STL support on all platforms for std::unique_ptr
# [04:41] <khuey> Waldo: any reason to think we can't do some sort of stdint like shim?
# [04:41] <jcranmer> or you could use GetNativePath
# [04:41] <Waldo> khuey: regarding scoped versus auto, I tended to like auto better, there was some back and forth in the bug, I didn't feel nearly strong enough about it to insist on auto, and there were vaguely-plausible reasons for the naming distinction
# [04:42] <Waldo> roc: :-P
# [04:42] <jcranmer> STLport's C++11 support is shit
# [04:42] <Waldo> khuey: shimming stuff explicitly into namespace std is very tricky to do, IMO
# [04:42] <Waldo> khuey: mozilla::UniquePtr would be totally fine if someone did it
# [04:42] <@roc> Waldo, ah sorry for accusing you of liking "scoped" :-)
# [04:42] <Waldo> heh
# [04:43] <Waldo> I could dig up the bug, there was some sort of purported distinction being established
# [04:43] <khuey> I see
# [04:43] <@roc> IIRC some people felt that "auto" means "on the stack"
# [04:44] <Waldo> ...maybe? I overwrote that memory well before it reached tape backups
# [04:44] <jcranmer> well, auto pointers are dead, let's use uniqueptr
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# [04:53] <J13R> jdm, so it's nsIFile::GetNativePath(nsACString_internal&), so how do I create the nsAutoString to pass it into?
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# [04:53] <jdm> J13R: for GetNativePath you just create an nsAutoCString on the stack
# [04:53] <jdm> nothing special
# [04:54] <J13R> jdm: so nsAutoCString s(); filterFile->GetNativePath(s);
# [04:54] <jdm> J13R: no need for ()
# [04:54] <glandium> khuey: they do, but that's compensated by the removal of the firefox menu
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# [04:55] <Waldo> J13R: indeed nsAutoCString s(); would declare a function s taking no arguments and returning an nsAutoCString, which is definitely not what you want :-)
# [04:55] <J13R> jdm: and then I import nsString.h and do printf("%s", NS_ConvertUTF16ToUTF8(s).get()) ?
# [04:55] <khuey> glandium: the firefox menu took up the same space as the tabs vertically
# [04:55] <jcranmer> J13R: no
# [04:56] <jcranmer> no need to convert UTF16 to UTF8
# [04:56] <jcranmer> just s.get()
# [04:56] <khuey> glandium: or, at least, the firefox menu took up less space than the current tabs
# [04:56] <J13R> you guys are really helpful! thanks jdm, jcranmer, Waldo
# [04:56] <philor> *: stop triggering win64 tests on try, there are no slaves that will run them and you wouldn't know how to interpret the failures if there were
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# [05:00] <glandium> khuey: not what i see here http://i.imgur.com/X1CvWmB.png
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# [05:00] <glandium> the tabs and the toolbar do individually take more space than they used to
# [05:00] <glandium> but overall, with the button gone, it's less space taken vertically
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# [05:01] <philor> fuck a duck, that's potential asan debug jit-test bustage
# [05:02] <glandium> philor: poor duck
# [05:02] <philor> that'll add 240 minutes to the closure, poor *
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# [05:03] <khuey> glandium: I had the tabs up on the same level as the button
# [05:04] <glandium> khuey: never seen that
# [05:04] <glandium> khuey: try a reset of the profile?
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# [05:04] <khuey> glandium: if you maximize the browser that happens by default, I think
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# [05:05] <glandium> khuey: ah, yeah, maximized is different
# [05:05] <glandium> mmmm that sucks
# [05:05] <khuey> indeed
# [05:06] <glandium> khuey: complain on firefox-dev?
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# [05:07] <J13R> so in javascript, how do I get the file path then? Should be easier, right?
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# [05:10] <glandium> khuey: that's not trolling
# [05:11] <philor> go me, I put the current state of inbound in the etherpad without using anything anyone else would recognize as swearing
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# [05:19] <glandium> ah no, okay, that's because i did something foolish
# [05:19] <tbsaunde> you know I'm actually kind of suprised we have seen people set up cron jobs to land stuff in the middle of the night for them yet
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# [05:20] <glandium> tbsaunde: that's called checkin-needed
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# [05:24] <@njn> argh, doing reviews of patches from... enthusiastic volunteers is no fun
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# [05:24] <danieru> Hard to match their kind words?
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# [05:27] <heycam> so... now that I've updated to Mavericks and a newer XCode, gdb has disappeared. what's the best way to get it back?
# [05:27] <glandium> heycam: install command line tools
# [05:27] <glandium> (wild guess)
# [05:27] <@njn> danieru: hard to understand them, sometimes
# [05:27] * heycam checks
# [05:28] <glandium> heycam: ah no, they just replaced it with lldb
# [05:28] <heycam> :(
# [05:28] <danieru> njn: the patches or the code? Either way tough problem, glad moizlla puts the effort into making things a community project.
# [05:29] <danieru> Or in this case: s/mozilla/njn/
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# [05:29] <philor> is 3.4GB vsize high?
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# [05:29] <@njn> danieru: patches==code... but both comments and patches are hard to read
# [05:29] <philor> can we switch from huge numbers without commas to "fine" "uh-oh" "prepare to die"?
# [05:30] <danieru> njn: sorry you're right, I had s/code/comments/ in my head
# [05:30] <@njn> philor: 3.4GB is very high. Is this on Windows? I'm surprised it can even get that high
# [05:30] * @bz ponders whether lldb is more likely than gdb to work well with clang
# [05:30] <philor> njn: this is on Mac, immediately before a 330 second hang-timeout in a test that has never before done so
# [05:31] <glandium> bz: you mean, wrt optimizations?
# [05:31] <philor> http://people.mozilla.org/~sguo/mochimem/viewer.html?url=http%3A//ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-macosx64/1384900790/mozilla-inbound_lion_test-mochitest-2-bm78-tests1-macosx-build1608.txt.gz&;
# [05:31] <philor> so not even at the peak
# [05:31] <@njn> philor: oh, Mac; that's entirely normal :)
# [05:31] <heycam> bz, seems likely, though I'm not in the mood to re-learn all the different lldb commands
# [05:31] <@bz> yeah
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# [05:31] <glandium> bz: i doubt it
# [05:31] <@bz> That part is annoying indeed
# [05:31] * heycam sees if he can install it using brew
# [05:31] <@njn> philor: Mac vsize numbers start around 3.2 GB for the smallest of programs, for some reason
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# [05:32] <@bz> because vsize
# [05:32] * philor crumples up the log and tosses it into bugzilla, never to be seen again
# [05:32] <philor> thx
# [05:32] <@bz> and 64-bit
# [05:32] <glandium> bz: essentially the problem is a combination of dwarf kind of sucking and compilers not really doing a good job with it
# [05:32] <@bz> and address space being free
# [05:32] <@njn> philor: and mac builds are 64-bit which means that max vsize is vastly larger than on 32-bit windows
# [05:32] <@bz> so the system libraries mmap like no tomorrow
# [05:32] <philor> and having quickly learned that putting the memory stats in the bug means if anyone looks, they'll dismiss it as someone else's OOM fault, I think I'll skip them time time :)
# [05:32] <danieru> yeah, no point sparing address space with 64bits (49 on current cpus)
# [05:33] <philor> err, this time
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# [05:34] <@bz> Now if quitting lldb did not take 6 seconds....
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# [05:37] <WeirdAl> OK, Task.jsm is really impressing me. Kinda wish I could chain a bunch of ordinary functions and generators together at once.
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# [05:38] <WeirdAl> (Task is friendlier than Promises, I think
# [05:39] <WeirdAl> )
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# [05:39] <mbrubeck> You can pass ordinary functions to Task.spawn, as well as generators.
# [05:39] <WeirdAl> yeah, but only one at a time :)
# [05:39] <WeirdAl> if Task.spawn took multiple arguments...
# [05:39] <mbrubeck> though there's usually no need to
# [05:39] <nrc> many of the gdb commands work as is in lldb
# [05:40] <danieru> pthread is still better
# [05:40] <WeirdAl> I'm still getting used to it, mbrubeck
# [05:40] <nrc> it doesn't really work on Linux though :-(
# [05:40] <fabrice> WeirdAl: you can use promises and ordinary functions inside the spawned function
# [05:40] <mbrubeck> To chain functions, you can just do Task.spawn(function() { yield function1(); yield function2(); yield function3(); });
# [05:40] <nrc> or at least it didn't 5 months ago when I last tried
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# [05:43] <glandium> nrc: looks like it does work on a simple program for me on linux
# [05:43] <glandium> nrc: commands are significantly different, though
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# [05:44] <glandium> setting a breakpoint is "breakpoint set -n function", for example
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# [05:45] <glandium> register read instead of info registers
# [05:46] <danieru> glandium: is there a shortcut for setting breaks?
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# [05:46] <nrc> yeah, it worked on trivial programs, but not on Firefox
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# [05:47] <nrc> ah, didn't try registers
# [05:47] <glandium> danieru: doesn't look like so (except like gdb, you can shorten commands, so br set -n func works)
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# [05:47] <glandium> br s -n func works
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# [05:47] <nrc> I think things like stepping, setting breakpoints, bt, etc. have mappings
# [05:47] <nrc> that is the gdb versions work in lldb
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# [05:48] <reuben> I find this table very useful: http://lldb.llvm.org/lldb-gdb.html
# [05:48] <heycam> ok, running "brew install homebrew/dupes/gdb" and then following the instructions on https://sourceware.org/gdb/wiki/BuildingOnDarwin worked
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# [05:49] <glandium> reuben: erf, so "b" kind of works like gdb's break
# [05:49] <glandium> lldb doesn't have a start command. That kind of sucks
# [05:50] <mattwoodrow> heycam: Does it really work?
# [05:50] <mattwoodrow> I did that, but it wouldn't load symbols for anything other than firefox.exe
# [05:50] <heycam> mattwoodrow, oh you're right, no symbols :(
# [05:50] * heycam sighs
# [05:50] <glandium> heycam: what does info sharedlib say?
# [05:51] <mattwoodrow> And --debugger=lldb for retests doesn't work
# [05:51] <mattwoodrow> I resorted to writing a while(true){} loop
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# [05:51] <mattwoodrow> attaching manually with lldb, and forcing it to continue
# [05:51] <heycam> (gdb) info sharedlib
# [05:51] <heycam> No shared libraries loaded at this time.
# [05:52] <glandium> heycam: so, you haven't started firefox really haven't you?
# [05:52] <heycam> glandium, no this is in the middle of firefox running
# [05:52] <glandium> oops
# [05:53] <mattwoodrow> matches what I get
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# [05:54] <reuben> glandium: a start command?
# [05:55] <glandium> reuben: https://sourceware.org/gdb/current/onlinedocs/gdb/Starting.html#Starting
# [05:55] <glandium> manually having to set a temporary breakpoint on main is not really being helpful
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# [05:57] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning
# [05:57] <danieru> Good morning!
# [05:57] * philor begins to consider the likelihood that bhackett floats
# [05:58] <mattwoodrow> glandium: Interesting, I found the default breakpoint on main annoying
# [05:58] <mattwoodrow> switching to use 'r' instead
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# [05:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> philor: OOM again ? :)
# [05:58] <philor> Tomcat|sheriffduty: that's perhaps the one thing we don't currently have
# [05:59] <glandium> mattwoodrow: depends what you want to do, i use both
# [05:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
# [05:59] <reuben> glandium: ah, I see
# [05:59] <philor> I mean, you never know with shu in the tree...
# [05:59] <mattwoodrow> glandium: I guess so! It's before libxul symbols load, so rarely useful for me
# [06:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> philor: raised now serverity of the tegra backlog bug
# [06:01] <philor> mmm
# [06:01] <glandium> mattwoodrow: that makes me think we could actually cheat
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# [06:01] <glandium> mattwoodrow: and have everything up to loading libxul be done in a static initializer
# [06:02] <reuben> glandium: you can add it pretty easily though, as a function that does |br s -o -n main; r %1|
# [06:02] <J13R> really? I have to create a bool, and pass the pointer to it to get a bool return value for file->Exists()
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# [06:02] <J13R> *sigh*
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# [06:02] <reuben> I'm assuming you don't care about Ada :)
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# [06:04] <reuben> J13R: yea, XPCOM interfaces are pretty terrible to use from C++
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# [06:04] <reuben> (but straightforward to use from JS)
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# [06:05] <glandium> J13R: that's because it's really a tristate: exists, doesn't exist, failed ; the latter giving you an error code related to what failed
# [06:06] <glandium> and there are many reasons that can fail
# [06:07] <J13R> that's the price of not having exceptions I guess
# [06:08] <glandium> s/not having/choosing not to use/ but yes
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# [06:13] <@bz> When originally designed, closer to not having
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# [06:14] <glandium> bz: we could have chosen to start using exceptions since then, but it's a bad idea anyways
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# [06:15] <glandium> templates were barely working back then, and we have plenty of them now
# [06:15] <tbsaunde> glandium: s/bad/horrible/ ? throwing through NS_InvokeByIndex sounds terrifying
# [06:15] <@bz> glandium: true
# [06:15] <@bz> glandium: templates are easier to add piecemeal
# [06:15] <@bz> glandium: than rewriting xpconnect to deal with C++ exceptions
# [06:16] <@bz> glandium: and changed ABI
# [06:16] <@bz> glandium: and all that
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# [06:16] <glandium> bz: i don't deny there are many good reasons not to have started using exceptions
# [06:16] <@bz> But yeah, it's not like we've made a point of really trying to use exceptions.
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# [06:17] <glandium> but that exceptions barely existed when the root of gecko was written is only an excuse by now. Not a reason
# [06:17] <@bz> The other direction is not happy.
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# [06:18] <glandium> bz_sleep: night
# [06:18] <glandium> we all know you're not actually going to sleep
# [06:19] <tbsaunde> well, I think its sort of a reason combined with exceptions being hard to do piece meal, but maybe we could do it if we really wanted
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# [06:26] <@roc> we looked at exceptions at least once or twice over the last decade, but enabling the necessary unwinding/RTTI stuff was always hugely expensive when we measured it
# [06:26] <glandium> roc: indeed it is
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# [06:29] <@dbaron> writing exception-safe code is also hard
# [06:29] <jcranmer> I don't think exceptions are the main perf hit
# [06:29] <jcranmer> it's the RTTI
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# [06:30] <jcranmer> but, needless to say, it's not uncommon for C++ projects to disable RTTI and exceptions
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# [06:38] <Jesse> why do exceptions require RTTI?
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# [06:48] <reuben> Jesse: enabling exceptions doesn't require enabling rtti (as in dynamic_cast and stuff), but exceptions require type information at runtime to work
# [06:49] <Jesse> is that just because of the quirk of c++ that exceptions are arbitrary types?
# [06:49] <Jesse> or does safe unwinding require rtti somehow?
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# [07:27] <jcranmer|away> Jesse: the underlying ABI uses the same mechanism for both RTTI and exceptions
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# [07:27] <jcranmer|away> so you get everything if you only use one feature
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# [07:35] <philor> witch! witch! witch!
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# [07:35] <philor> wow, that was suspicious
# [07:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8fefcd2bb154 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 00644e4b067d (bug 938124) for debug browser-chrome bustage, and probable debug ASan jit-test bustage
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# [07:37] <jld> Did someone change the set of bug flags while I was in the middle of filing a bug?
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# [07:40] <jld> ...and suddenly it works.
# [07:40] <sfink> I just got some weird template error when loading a bug, and it worked on a reload
# [07:40] <sfink> mid-upgrade or something?
# [07:41] <jld> (Email sent to: literally an entire screenful of people.)
# [07:41] <jld> "cf_status_b2g18 is not a valid parameter for the Bugzilla::Bug::create function."
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# [07:44] <shu> philor: exonerating evidence?
# [07:44] <philor> shu: you're off the hook for everything except patting bhackett while he sobs :)
# [07:44] <shu> philor: bhackett's a woodsman, these things don't bother him as much
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# [07:46] <philor> ah, good, since I blamed him for the debug ASan jit-test timeouts when I had a green above him
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# [07:47] <philor> which is going to make them a leetle difficult to pin on anyone
# [07:48] <philor> frequent intermittent in a four bloody hour job
# [07:48] <philor> I don't think I'm going to retrigger my way to any sort of a conclusion here
# [07:48] <shu> philor: the ASan issue is not OOM, just timeout?
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# [07:49] <philor> shu: right, timeout in two TypedObject jit-tests
# [07:49] <philor> or four, counting both --no-ion flavors for each
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# [07:49] <philor> or eight, counting the way we pointlessly run jit-tests twice
# [07:50] <shu> philor: which log? i don't see an orange B
# [07:50] <glob> sfink, yes, mid update i'm sorry (another one coming soon)
# [07:50] <sfink> no big deal
# [07:50] <philor> shu: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30803607&tree=Mozilla-Inbound (Bd)
# [07:50] <glob> jld, oh, that error message concerns me :|
# [07:51] <shu> philor: ty
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# [08:05] <philor> the fact that this build takes four hours, and has never once caught anything, does not argue strongly for its utility
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# [08:14] <shu> philor: jit-prefix is a very slow test without the JITs turned on
# [08:14] <shu> philor: TypedObject/jit-prefix, that is
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# [08:16] <philor> shu: given that https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00644e4b067d apparently did slow us down in browser-chrome, my best hope is that it also slowed us down in those, but only intermittently slowed us down enough to time out
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# [08:17] <philor> otherwise, it's permaorange from https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4983f1debf4c which is silly, or intermittent with no good way of guessing what thing today made it intermittent
# [08:17] <shu> philor: there are other tests like that too, that depend on the JITs being on to not intermittently time out. it's debatable whet er a "slow-in-interpreter" flag is a good idea, though
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# [08:19] <shu> philor: for differential testing, that is
# [08:21] <shu> philor: i'll file a bug about that test and about making it faster (it just loops an arbitrary # of times, it gets pretty optimized in the JITs but slow as shit in interpreter)
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# [08:21] <philor> shu: thanks, filed the intermittent as https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=940868 because I don't want to sit on the tree any longer :)
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# [08:22] <shu> philor: i'll just use that one then
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# [08:24] <philor> so, I closed the tree as I was finishing lunch, and look at that, I get to reopen it right as I'm going to bed
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# [08:25] <shu> philor: all in a day's work
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# [08:26] <philor> alas, indeed
# [08:26] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah lots of tree closures in the last 24 hours :(
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# [08:28] <philor> mmm, that's another nice way to look at the day: I rolled out of bed, closed inbound, now I opened inbound and I'm rolling back in
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# [08:29] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> philor|away: good night
# [08:30] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> and don't let the tree hunt you in your dreams :)
# [08:30] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
# [08:30] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning Ms2ger
# [08:30] <Ms2ger> And good night, philor|away
# [08:31] <shu> philor|away: good night!
# [08:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64e3c489b77e - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 939598. Always call BeginTransaction before EndTransaction. r=mattwoodrow
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# [08:34] <nrc> \o/ landed something!
# [08:35] <shu> nrc: you shouldn't if you want the tree to stay open
# [08:36] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh
# [08:36] <nrc> it'll be fine! I'm sure...
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# [09:30] <gcp> when are ESR users updated from 17->24?
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# [09:34] <NeilAway> NS_StackWalk causes a write on Windows, which gets trapped by the late write observer
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# [10:27] <Optimize1> khuey: doesnt https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=940546 focus on maximized window ?
# [10:27] <Optimize1> or do you actually mean restored window all the time.
# [10:28] <khuey> Optimize1: the screenshots in comment 0 are not maximized
# [10:28] <Optimize1> see the attached screenshots
# [10:28] <khuey> Optimize1: ah, yes, that's what I'm talking about
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# [10:30] <NeilAway> Waldo++
# [10:30] <glandium> khuey: does msvc have a view that allows to see data (not disassembly) with corresponding symbols ? (so, kind of like the disassembly view, but without it trying to disassemble and skip symbols because they're in the middle of an instruction)
# [10:30] <Optimize1> khuey: there is a 7 px vertical space loss
# [10:30] <khuey> Optimize1: yeah, that is unfortunate
# [10:31] <Optimize1> yes
# [10:31] <khuey> Optimize1: and it breaks gmail for me :-/
# [10:31] <Optimize1> wow, my message to firefox-dev is awaiting moderetaion
# [10:31] <Optimize1> moderation
# [10:31] <khuey> glandium: for main memory?
# [10:31] <khuey> not that I am aware of
# [10:31] <glandium> khuey: sigh
# [10:32] <glandium> khuey: does dumpbin work on pdb?
# [10:32] <glandium> nope
# [10:33] <glandium> so, how can i get a list of non exported symbols?
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# [10:37] <khuey> glandium: not sure
# [10:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4660efcc53f9 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 771561 - Make HTMLInputElement.stepUp()/stepDown() work when the input's value is NaN. r=smaug
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# [10:37] <khuey> glandium: pdb explorer?
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# [12:07] <@smaug> hrm
# [12:08] <@smaug> Australis seems to be a bit leaky
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# [12:22] <Gijs> smaug: please file bugs with STR. :)
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# [12:23] <@smaug> Gijs: just compiling an opt build and then testing with about:cc
# [12:24] <Gijs> I don't know what that means :)
# [12:24] <Gijs> Please file a bug.
# [12:24] <@smaug> about:cc is an addon attached to bug 726346
# [12:27] <@smaug> Gijs: I see documents like chrome://browser/skin/tabbrowser/tab-selected-start.svg and chrome://browser/skin/tabbrowser/tab-selected-end.svg in the CC graph. (but are we just not optimizing those out from the graph?)
# [12:27] <@smaug> but there is also something else...
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# [12:29] <Gijs> smaug: I don't really understand either the cycle collector or about:cc or the SVG cache, which is what that sounds like.
# [12:30] <Gijs> smaug: at the risk of being a bore, might I once more ask you to file a bug? If it's invalid/wfm in the end, that's fine, but bugs are cheap and that way we'll be sure not to forget about it, and it'll make it easier to get the right people to look at it.
# [12:31] <NeilAway> eek, my vm blue-screened :s
# [12:31] <Gijs> NeilAway: your comment on bug 805374 doesn't explain what happens in the case where we have "Hebrew" and "Thai" in the menu and they have access keys "H" and "h"
# [12:32] <@smaug> Gijs: yes yes, I'll file a bug once I have something reproduceable
# [12:32] * Gijs is willing to bet the result might be different on different OSes, too. :(
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# [12:32] <Gijs> smaug: awesome, thank you! :)
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# [12:35] <NeilAway> Gijs: well, if the letter only appears in a single case it doesn't make any visual difference, but we prefer to use the original case anyway
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# [12:36] <Gijs> NeilAway: I mean, in the case described above, will pressing "h" invoke hebrew or Thai, or select either with the possibility to jump between and then hit enter?
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# [12:37] <Gijs> and will pressing shift-h do something else?
# [12:38] <NeilAway> Gijs: oh, sorry for the misunderstanding
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# [12:40] <NeilAway> Gijs: that better?
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# [12:42] <Gijs> NeilAway: yes! That's what I thought, too. Glad I'm not crazy :)
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# [13:16] <@Cwiiis> edmorley: ping?
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# [13:16] <edmorley> Cwiiis: when pining, please can you give context? :-)
# [13:16] <edmorley> pinging
# [13:16] <@Cwiiis> edmorley: sorry, will do next time :)
# [13:16] <edmorley> :-)
# [13:16] <edmorley> how can I help?
# [13:17] * jwatt thought all the context that a ping required was an address
# [13:17] <@Cwiiis> edmorley: so I have a patch that's green on try, but I'm getting the intermittent talos red on s... I was wondering how intermittent it is? Because I've gotten it twice in a row, just wondering if chances are that that could happen or if my patch increases the failure rate
# [13:17] <@Cwiiis> edmorley: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=f6ca4c68bc8a
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# [13:18] <edmorley> Cwiiis: looking
# [13:18] <@Cwiiis> edmorley: thanks :)
# [13:18] <jwatt> grr
# [13:18] <jwatt> why can't a failed |hg clone| be continued where it left off?
# [13:19] <jwatt> Cwiiis: you're right, git is superior
# [13:19] <@Cwiiis> jwatt: finally :)
# [13:19] * jwatt goes hunting for the repo packages that he might actually be able to continue downloading when interupted
# [13:20] <edmorley> Cwiiis: it might be bug 934310 or bug 849478, but might be worth retriggering a couple more times - two in a row seems odd
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# [13:20] <edmorley> Cwiiis: also given that the failure isn't something obviously like a hg clone timeout due to infra etc
# [13:20] <edmorley> s/obviously/obvious/
# [13:20] <@Cwiiis> edmorley: ok, will do - thanks
# [13:20] <edmorley> Cwiiis: np :-)
# [13:20] <Ms2ger> jwatt, yeah, git is better at cloning
# [13:20] <jwatt> Ms2ger: a _lot_ better
# [13:20] <jwatt> it seems
# [13:21] <Ms2ger> jwatt, I hypothesize that is because it's so easy to brick git repos, so people need to re-clone a lot
# [13:21] <jwatt> haha
# [13:21] <jwatt> Cwiiis: ^
# [13:21] <@Cwiiis> pffh, I've not found hg significantly easier or less error prone so far
# [13:22] <@Cwiiis> also, I've never bricked a git repo - never gotten into a situation that reset and fsck haven't gotten me out of, so far (not to say it won't happen, but still)
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# [13:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/25c9def33304 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 998d2d5e743d (bug 919878) on suspicion of causing shutdown hangs on OS X
# [13:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f020616fe213 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 77f53f9d3099 (bug 935784) on suspicion of causing shutdown hangs on OS X
# [13:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7e9be570d4b8 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset b92529577644 (bug 895395) on suspicion of causing shutdown hangs on OS X
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# [13:48] <froydnj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: inbound is closed until the m-c push comes up green?
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# [13:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> froydnj: yep to be sure the b-c issue is fixed
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# [13:49] <froydnj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ok, thanks
# [13:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> froydnj: we will also merge m-c with the backout to the other trees (like m-i)
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# [14:02] <edmorley> froydnj, Tomcat|sheriffduty: I hadn;t seen the message above and so had already reopened - Tomcat|sheriffduty feel free to close if you think necessary - but pretty sure that's the issue
# [14:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d50ef193b2fe - Tom Schuster - Bug 939194 - Bump iid of nsIXMLHttpRequestEventTarget. r=bz
# [14:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: np, happy to have the tree open
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# [14:05] <froydnj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: "happy"? clearly you haven't been doing this for very long :)
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# [14:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/887f595b0abb - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 939835. Fix up performance regressions from bug 937772. r=h4writer
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# [14:43] <sheppy> Hm. DirecTV's "watch online" feature seems to lock up Nightly every time I open it. It gets to 100% loaded then the entire program locks up. Ah. Flash is crashing. Lovely.
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# [14:44] <sheppy> At least it's not taking all of Nightly with it. That's a plus!
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# [14:46] <sheppy> Doesn't crash in Safari though.
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# [14:49] <@Cwiiis> edmorley: I guess that 4 reds in a row is outside the realm of statistical probability :( https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=f6ca4c68bc8a
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# [14:50] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: I'd say so, especially since the hangs are when the test is actually trying to run
# [14:50] <RyanVM> (not during setup or something)
# [14:50] <@Cwiiis> right - it's odd that it seems consistently green on 4.0 and consistently red on 2.2...
# [14:50] <RyanVM> different hardware/OS
# [14:51] <@Cwiiis> This change shouldn't vary on that, there's a possibility that different screen sizes could affect it and it will affect performance negatively, so if something was on the verge of taking too long, perhaps it now consistently takes too long...
# [14:52] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: yt ?
# [14:52] <@Cwiiis> I guess I need to run it locally, see what's going on
# [14:52] <@Cwiiis> ugh, but it's talos :|
# [14:52] <edmorley> Cwiiis: yeah :-(
# [14:53] <jmaher> Cwiiis: let me know if you need help running talos
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# [14:54] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: do you have the relevant wiki page to hand?
# [14:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gps: nalexander : ping
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# [14:55] <jmaher> Cwiiis: I have a tegra here, let me run it real quick and get logcat output
# [14:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e36faba57f46 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 938544 - Add support for a Chrome-only constructor in WebIDL. r=bz.
# [14:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/940da12657e0 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 938131 - Simplify dom::ErrorResult::ReportJSExceptionFromJSImplementation. r=bz.
# [14:56] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: vaguely
# [14:56] <jmaher> Cwiiis: I only say this because it looks to be hardware specific and is timing out on initial launch
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# [14:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey glandium could have https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a829f4d2584a killed the android nightlies
# [14:56] <jmaher> umm, something else looks fishy
# [14:57] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30828182&tree=Mozilla-Central is the failure
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# [14:57] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: yes, it could
# [14:57] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: ok, thanks :)
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# [14:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: thx will back it out
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# [14:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b5643679408 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 936835 - Adding script runners or messing with mLinksToUpdate during FlushPendingLinkUpdates is not allowed. r=bz
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# [15:01] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: it could be that the test takes over 5 minutes to run and completely blocks while doing so(?)
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# [15:02] <gerard-majax> hello
# [15:03] <gerard-majax> anyone could help me getting my way into ipc code?
# [15:03] <gerard-majax> especially the https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/ipc/chromium/src/base/message_loop.h#68
# [15:03] <bz_sleep> jmaher: fix is in; now I hope it fixes things not just for me. ;)
# [15:03] <RyanVM> bz: so good he does it while he sleeps
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# [15:03] <bz> something
# [15:05] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: hmm, loading the svgs on my device, there's an obvious rendering glitch (only the first tile gets updated), so I need to verify if it's my patch causing that :/
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# [15:08] <jmaher> Cwiiis: ok, could it be working on panda boards but failing on tegras?
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# [15:09] <jmaher> Cwiiis: ok, 's' normally takes 27 minutes on tegra and panda (most recent inbound data), it is hitting the 1 hour timeout on tegra and taking ~70 minutes on panda
# [15:09] <jmaher> that is the problem
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# [15:12] <baku> question: nsJSUtils::GetCallingLocation fails when I do: setTimeout(indexedDB.deleteDatabase.bind(indexedDB), 0, 'x') because the callee is not JS. Is there a way to retrieve filename and line number in this case?
# [15:12] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: that's quite a regression... But then the old drawing code was wrong, so I need to check if it's valid first
# [15:12] <baku> bz ^ maybe you know...
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# [15:13] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: what does it do with those svgs?
# [15:13] <RyanVM> gerard-majax: khuey, you around?
# [15:13] <gerard-majax> yes
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# [15:13] <gerard-majax> RyanVM, worst I'll wait for ben, we have a meeting later so ...
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# [15:15] <glandium> makes me think... if all of australis is defined in pixels (at least that's the unit used in the defining document), why use svgs?
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# [15:15] <jmaher> Cwiiis: the tests are defined here: http://hg.mozilla.org/build/talos/file/ad927d1aa867/talos/page_load_test/svgx
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# [15:16] <gcp> glandium: I'm guessing it's pixels at a defined dpi
# [15:16] <jgraham> glandium: CSS pixels aren't pixels
# [15:16] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: when you say they're defined... Where? I just see svg files and a manifest
# [15:16] <glandium> jgraham: ah, hidpi
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# [15:16] <bz> baku: filename and line number of what?
# [15:16] <jmaher> Cwiiis: yes, we load those files and record the pageload time
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# [15:16] <bz> baku: the setTimeout call, the bind() call, or something else?
# [15:17] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: how is the page load time recorded?
# [15:17] <bz> baku: but the short answer is probably "there isn't right now"
# [15:17] * froydnj just had to view-source to find out why a site wasn't accepting a password that clearly satisfied the requirements
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# [15:17] <froydnj> turns out they forgot to mention the password must be shorter than 12 characters :(
# [15:18] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: ah, the rendering glitch happens without my patch too, so that's... good... I guess...
# [15:18] <baku> bz, IDBRequest needs to know filename and line number for error reporting
# [15:18] <jmaher> Cwiiis: hixie-001, hixie-002, hixie-005 and hixie-006 are the biggest offenders
# [15:18] <till> froydnj: and does replacing their check allow you to enter a better password?
# [15:18] <bz> baku: "needs" in what sense?
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# [15:18] <bz> baku: spec requires it?
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# [15:18] <bz> baku: or impl requires it?
# [15:19] <jmaher> Cwiiis: if you look at the full logs of an inbound push on panda vs your push, you will see the raw values- search for '0;gearflowers' in the text
# [15:19] <froydnj> till: I didn't try munging the js
# [15:19] <baku> bz, for window.onerror() but I don't know if it's from the spec.
# [15:19] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: thanks - I'll see what's making hixie-01 take so much longer, looking at what it does, my patch shouldn't make much of a difference - do you know what size they get rendered at?
# [15:19] <baku> bz, and it's not a 'need', but a 'nice to have'. probably
# [15:20] <bz> baku: Well, so.
# [15:20] <jmaher> on the panda it is 720p - in landscape, on the tegra it is 1024x768
# [15:20] <bz> baku: to the extent that we need it for the spec the spec needs to spec the behavior.
# [15:20] <bz> baku: If it's just something we're doing ourselves, we should figure out what behavior we want, then spec it and implement it. ;)
# [15:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b5413f07e669 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset a829f4d2584a (bug 934646) Android Nightlies Build Bustage
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# [15:21] <glandium> froydnj: if something is checking for a max number of characters in a password, chances are it means they are storing passwords as plain text and stored in a fixed size array of characters
# [15:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/597287004ff5 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 5dd946b1f29b (bug 934646) Android Nightly Build Bustage
# [15:21] <bz> baku: right now, there is no line number information associated with a random function object
# [15:21] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: when you run talos, do you see the results? A possibility that would explain the regression is that before my patch, it's incorrectly skipping drawing
# [15:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7f841e04273d - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 4ae3d82562fa (bug 934646) Android Nighly Build Bustage
# [15:21] <bz> baku: afaik
# [15:21] <baku> bz, ok
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# [15:21] <jmaher> Cwiiis: good question- I only run it on headless devices
# [15:21] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: I'm suspecting that my patch means that no drawing is incorrectly skipped and it's just taking that much longer
# [15:22] <froydnj> glandium: yeah :(
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# [15:22] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: do the logs include adb logcat output?
# [15:22] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: lol, those are always the best regressions
# [15:22] <jmaher> Cwiiis: would that affect other tests as well? the test times look similar
# [15:22] <RyanVM> "makes the test do what it's supposed to have been doing all along"
# [15:22] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: there are slight regression in rck2 and rp, which reflect that
# [15:22] <@Cwiiis> *regressions
# [15:22] <jmaher> Cwiiis: yes, logs normally have adb logcat (remember it is a circular buffer, so you won't get the entire test)
# [15:23] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: I think I'm right - this is the full log of svgx without my patch, notice all the 'Aborting update' messages - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30285459&tree=Try&full=1
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# [15:24] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: and note that there are no aborting messages with my patch (which there shouldn't be)
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# [15:24] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: so previously, it just wasn't drawing a lot of the time, or more likely, it was drawing in low resolution (which would explain the approximate 4x regression)
# [15:24] <RyanVM> glandium: is there something I can add to my mozconfig to fold all libs into libxul? (win64 build)
# [15:25] <glandium> RyanVM: no
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# [15:25] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: so assuming this is correct (which I think it is), what can we do?
# [15:25] <RyanVM> glandium: I suppose it's not worth special-casing win64 either
# [15:25] <glandium> RyanVM: no
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# [15:26] <jmaher> Cwiiis: well, we could reduce the iterations in the test
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# [15:26] <jmaher> it wouldn't be as accurate in finding regressions, but it would allow us to get coverage
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# [15:27] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: that sounds reasonable - if it's not a test to check on rendering speed, I guess we could stick them in a page with a viewport so they get rendered smaller
# [15:28] <jmaher> avih: ping
# [15:28] <avih> jmaher: pong
# [15:28] <jmaher> avih: Cwiiis has a fix for fennec which will cause the tsvgx tests to render completely on talos- this increases the runtime by 4x if not more in some cases
# [15:29] <avih> jmaher: x4 compared to what?
# [15:29] <@Cwiiis> avih: compared to without the patch (where the rendering doesn't actually happen correctly)
# [15:29] <jmaher> avih: compared to how they run currently
# [15:29] <avih> which patch?
# [15:29] <avih> and what do they run curently?
# [15:29] <avih> r
# [15:30] <avih> i.e. what's the exact change?
# [15:30] <daleharvey> currently getting a bunch of mochitest failures with the canvas suite on osx - http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3642101
# [15:30] <avih> jmaher: ^
# [15:31] <@Cwiiis> avih: This patch: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8335250 - which fixes the currently incorrect tiled update coherency checks
# [15:31] <daleharvey> its retina, so that may be an issue, in fact will check with my non retina
# [15:31] <@Cwiiis> avih: currently, due to the checks being incorrect, I believe those tests are rendering at quarter resolution, or not at all (grep for 'Aborting update' in logs without the patch)
# [15:32] <avih> daleharvey: jmaher: sorry, i'm not sure i'm familiar with the context. which checks? how is it related to tscrollx/tsvgx/etc...
# [15:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bdd0b739b34d - Tareq Khandaker - Bug 925847 - WorkerNavigator does not implement all of NavigatorID. r=nsm
# [15:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/768f6bfdce7d - Douglas Crosher - Bug 931882 - Avoid invoking a nested shell when running jit-test bug710947.js. r=luke
# [15:33] <jmaher> avih: I think daleharvey has a different issue
# [15:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6fbd2b0f0731 - Robert Bindar - Bug 923686 - Refactor about:networking return values. r=hurley
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# [15:34] <avih> jmaher: so, give me the context: what's broken, how is tscrollx/tsvgx relates to this, and what becomes better, and due to what
# [15:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53d21900b302 - Douglas Crosher - Bug 931882 - Guard against passing a null js-cache in NestedShell. r=luke
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# [15:34] <bz> RyanVM: ping
# [15:34] <RyanVM> pong
# [15:35] <jmaher> avih: the problem is with Cwiiis' patch, we increase our runtime from 27 minutes -> 70 minutes; I want to know with tsvgx if it is critical to run at full screen, or if we could run it inside a scaled down viewport on fennec?
# [15:35] <jmaher> avih: another alternative is to run the tests in fewer iterations
# [15:35] <bz> RyanVM: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=932501
# [15:35] <bz> RyanVM: you changed the flags for branches to "fixed"
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# [15:36] <bz> RyanVM: but they still say "affected"
# [15:36] <RyanVM> bz: yeah, that happened on another one too
# [15:36] <RyanVM> froydnj ^
# [15:36] <bz> RyanVM: Don't change them right now, btw....
# [15:36] <avih> Cwiiis: in english, what does your patch change, and how does it relate to those tests and the overall runtime?
# [15:36] <bz> sheeri: ping
# [15:36] <RyanVM> glob: any idea what happened?
# [15:36] * bz bets more of that weekend database corruption
# [15:36] <avih> Cwiiis: (also, wuz up? :) )
# [15:36] <RyanVM> I guess, though some of these were flag changes from yesterday
# [15:36] <sheeri> gzyeah, I'm here
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# [15:37] <sheeri> bz: I'm here
# [15:37] <RyanVM> bz: anyway, I'll ignore that bug - please set the flags back when ready though :)
# [15:37] <avih> Cwiiis: your is very monty python-ish. did you hear they're gonna perform again soon?
# [15:37] <sheeri> bz: I'm starting today's stuff by looking at the "flags" table
# [15:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/597287004ff5 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 5dd946b1f29b (bug 934646) Android Nightly Build Bustage
# [15:37] <bz> sheeri: OK, cool
# [15:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f940c07013f4 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Merge m-c to mozilla-inbound
# [15:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5413f07e669 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset a829f4d2584a (bug 934646) Android Nightlies Build Bustage
# [15:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f841e04273d - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 4ae3d82562fa (bug 934646) Android Nighly Build Bustage
# [15:37] <avih> jmaher: sorry, i still miss the overall context. explain it to me as if i don't know anything pls :)
# [15:37] <froydnj> RyanVM: aha
# [15:37] <bz> RyanVM: I just got nag mail about it and couldn't figure out why.....
# [15:38] <glob> sheeri, they are in the tracking_flags_bugs table, not flags
# [15:38] <bz> sheeri: should I just leave the flags on that bug, or fix them up now?
# [15:38] <@Cwiiis> avih: before my patch, tiled layer updates would sometimes get skipped entirely, or drawn in smaller batches than they should to maintain visual coherency. After my patch, updates are no longer incorrectly skipped. Wrt tsvgx, it was hitting a particularly nasty case that meant that all drawing was either not happening, or happening at a quarter of the
# [15:38] <@Cwiiis> resolution than it should have. With my patch, it renders correctly, but obviously takes a lot longer because of it.
# [15:38] <jmaher> avih: I am asking you for your opinion since you know more about the tsvgx tests than I do ;)
# [15:38] <bz> sheeri: in this case the bug history shows the flags as changing, but the actual values are not changed
# [15:38] <@Cwiiis> avih: and hey :) Didn't hear about Monty Python doing a show, no... Will look that up, but would expect it to be expensive and booked out by now :/
# [15:38] <RyanVM> sheeri: glob: so these bugs will be fixed on your end? i.e. nothing for me to do here?
# [15:38] <glob> bz, bug 940836
# [15:38] <RyanVM> I ask because I query these regularly
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# [15:39] <glob> RyanVM, yeah, leave it. worse case we could cross-check changes on the activity table with the current state
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# [15:39] <avih> Cwiiis: i see. did you also look at the screen during the tests? did it actually not render enough before, and now it renders better?
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# [15:39] <bz> glob: yes, this looks identical
# [15:39] <RyanVM> glob: ok, will ignore them as I find them then :)
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# [15:41] <@Cwiiis> avih: just loading the svg in the browser is fine because a display-port gets set in that situation (well, mostly fine), but running under talos there isn't apparently - I haven't run it locally yet, but the log output is saying there's lots of skipped drawing, which there shouldn't be unless there's scrolling happening, which there isn't
# [15:41] <Gijs> smontagu: ping
# [15:42] <Gijs> mikedeboer: ^
# [15:42] <avih> Cwiiis: well, i'd suggest to first try to reproduce the talos run locally. also, theoretically it should be also reproducible outside of talos.
# [15:42] <avih> Cwiiis: jmaher: got a meeting now, let's continue in 40 mins or so?
# [15:42] <Gijs> smontagu: regarding bug 940251, can you reproduce on a clean profile? It's weird that we're not seeing this. :s
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# [15:42] <@Cwiiis> avih: okidokes
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# [15:42] <smontagu> Gijs: trying
# [15:42] <avih> Cwiiis: i'll ping you
# [15:43] <@Cwiiis> avih: k, thanks
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# [15:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca39b88accf3 - Michael Shuen - Bug 939475 - Mention markStackLimit in gcparam() help and error. r=luke
# [15:44] <jmaher> avih: ok
# [15:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0871c5c22056 - Michael Shuen - Bug 940207 - Build dom/quota in unified mode. r=bzbarsky
# [15:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d8f41da1da9 - Benoit Girard - Bug 936566 - Print mask layers in layers dump. r=nrc
# [15:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d9749cee00f - Dongie Agnir - Bug 940825 - Initialize dialogsWereEnabled to false. r=roc
# [15:44] <smontagu> Gijs: I do see it on a clean profile, with intl.uidirection.en set to rtl
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# [15:45] <smontagu> Gijs: are you setting RTL UI in some other way?
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# [15:46] <Gijs> smontagu: I defer to mikedeboer, but I suspect he's using the force rtl add-on.
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# [15:47] <RyanVM> man, seems like it takes the plugin container way longer to shutdown than it used to
# [15:47] <RyanVM> I have an internet radio station playing most of the time
# [15:47] <mikedeboer> smontagu: hi! I'm trying to reproduce it locally... are you running on a non-retina mac?
# [15:47] <RyanVM> it plays for 10-15 seconds after I close Fx
# [15:47] <RyanVM> recent regression
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# [15:47] <mikedeboer> smontagu: I'm using the force-rtl addon
# [15:48] * smontagu guesses he should try with an unpatched build as well, because I have all sorts of shit in my tree
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# [15:48] <smontagu> mikedeboer: don't think it's retina
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# [15:49] <smontagu> but even if it's because of a local patch, it didn't happen before yesterday :)
# [15:49] <Gijs> yeah, the screenshot doesn't look like retina :)
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# [15:51] <mikedeboer> shit in a tree is not good.
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# [15:52] <bhavyanshu> lol
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# [15:52] <smontagu> as long as it's not fucked up repugnant shit
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# [15:53] <avih> Cwiiis: what's the platform you were referring to?
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# [15:53] <avih> jmaher: ^
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# [15:53] <mikedeboer> ah! fitting term :)
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# [15:53] <avih> fennec?
# [15:53] <@Cwiiis> avih: Android
# [15:53] <@Cwiiis> avih: right
# [15:53] <avih> cool, thx
# [15:54] <@Cwiiis> avih: this only affects fennec at the moment
# [15:54] <avih> Cwiiis: k, thx.
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# [15:56] <smontagu> Gijs, mikedeboer: another issue that I see, but I don't know if it's RTL-specific: the first tab is under the red button in the title bar
# [15:57] <Gijs> smontagu: are you on OS X 10.6?
# [15:57] <smontagu> does the tab strip have a space at the left to avoid that, when it should be at the start end?
# [15:57] <smontagu> Gijs: 10.8
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# [15:58] <Gijs> so, on OS X the window controls don't swap sides in RTL mode
# [15:58] <mikedeboer> smontagu: I can reproduce it! It's a non-retina issue! (wtf!)
# [15:58] <Gijs> IIRC
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# [15:58] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: I've checked out talos, but it's not entirely obvious how to get it going... I've installed the prerequisites, I think, is there a step-by-step available anywhere? (preferably for Linux...)
# [15:59] <Gijs> Oh, but they do because we now draw them ourselves
# [15:59] <Gijs> sigh
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# [16:00] <Gijs> smontagu: it's a bug that we swap the window buttons to the other side.
# [16:00] <Gijs> smontagu: please file that. :)
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# [16:00] <jmaher> Cwiiis: here are the general requirements for how to run talos: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Buildbot/Talos/Running#Running_locally_-_Source_Code
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# [16:01] <jmaher> Cwiiis: and for fennec: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Fennec/Android#talos
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# [16:01] <smontagu> Gijs: ah, I thought it was an improvement :)
# [16:02] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: cool, thanks
# [16:02] <mikedeboer> smontagu: yeah, I'll check the window buttons positioning too
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# [16:03] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: I guess those instructions need updating, there is no bin/activate(?)
# [16:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/63e0b6e8f84c - Luke Wagner - Bug 938615 - Simplify usage of ScriptSource::chars (r=benjamin)
# [16:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3ace05661dc - Luke Wagner - Bug 933932 - OdinMonkey: provide a better warning message for uncoerced calls (r=bbouvier)
# [16:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/086a48bf1e04 - Luke Wagner - Bug 933807 - Allow easily disabling TriggerOperationCallbackFor(Ion|AsmJS)Code (r=bhackett)
# [16:03] <jmaher> Cwiiis: did you do a 'python INSTALL.py' ?
# [16:04] <RyanVM> tn: ping
# [16:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d579cd22053 - Luke Wagner - Bug 938390 - don't create a string to hold chars in ScriptSource::chars (r=benjamin)
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# [16:04] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: yup
# [16:04] <jmaher> Cwiiis: do you have virtualenv installed locally?
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# [16:05] <jmaher> Cwiiis: pip install virtualenv
# [16:05] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: I don't know what virtualenv is, so I guess not? the install did output "Cannot find sdist setuptools-*.tar.gz", but then it seemed to continue fine
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# [16:05] <jmaher> Cwiiis: yeah, I would install virtualenv: http://www.virtualenv.org/en/latest/virtualenv.html#installation
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# [16:05] <jmaher> that sets up an environment and python paths unique to that instance so it doesn't conflict with the global paths/settings for python
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# [16:06] <RyanVM> kats: ping
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# [16:06] <kats> RyanVM: pong
# [16:06] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: ok, I've installed virtualenv and pip from the fedora repos
# [16:06] <RyanVM> kats: hi, I'm looking at bug 908100 and wondering if it's something that needs uplift to Aurora/Beta or just b2g26
# [16:07] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: should I run the install again?
# [16:07] <RyanVM> kats: looks b2g-only ?
# [16:07] <jmaher> Cwiiis: great, now run the INSTALL.py again, it should create the bin/activate
# [16:07] <kats> RyanVM: yeah it's b2g-only
# [16:07] <RyanVM> great, thanks
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# [16:07] <@Cwiiis> great, it worked :)
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# [16:08] <jmaher> Cwiiis: great- you should be running tests soon- I usually copy bits from the log file a lot
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# [16:09] <jmaher> Cwiiis: I ran this command to run the test locally: python remotePerfConfigurator.py -v -e org.mozilla.fennec -activeTests tsvgx --noChrome --develop --remoteDevice 192.168.1.69 --output cw.yml; python run_tests.py cw.yml
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# [16:09] <jmaher> Cwiiis: of course you need a build installed on your device, possible change the package name, and the ip address will need to be changed
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# [16:11] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: when it says ip of your sutagent, I assume that's just the device's IP?
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# [16:12] <jmaher> yes, I get it from 'adb shell netcfg'
# [16:12] <jmaher> Cwiiis: you need to have your device and host computer on the same network
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# [16:14] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: do I need to launch the browser first?
# [16:14] <catlee> mconley: hey, I've had a few crashes with australis that haven't triggered a crash report. do you know if there's a known bug for that?
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# [16:14] <NeilAway> killed by a fatal assertion on level 1
# [16:15] <NeilAway> smontagu++
# [16:15] <smontagu> ?
# [16:15] <smontagu> what did I do right?
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# [16:16] <mconley> catlee: that's very strange
# [16:16] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: oh, I thought SUTAgent was something built into fennec, I assume it isn't...
# [16:16] <mconley> catlee: and no, I don't believe I have a known bug for that
# [16:16] <@Cwiiis> I'll just use my rooted device, that'll be easier
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# [16:16] <mconley> catlee: if you could file one, that'd be amazing. :)
# [16:16] <jmaher> Cwiiis: that is a tool we put on for automation, you can run via adb if you want- I haven't done that in a while
# [16:17] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: they should be the same, for all intents and purposes, I assume?
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# [16:18] <jmaher> Cwiiis: mostly the same, we use sutagent in automation so we don't have to deal with 1:many devices and adb
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# [16:18] <jmaher> Cwiiis: you will need to have additional commandline options
# [16:19] <jmaher> Cwiiis: add '-p -1' to invoke adb
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# [16:19] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: in the example on the wiki, there are different arguments for adb vs. sutagent - is that important?
# [16:20] <@Cwiiis> so like --output instead of --results_url
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# [16:21] <jmaher> Cwiiis: --output writes the config to an output file, --results_url write the output to a specific url, I would add --results_url results.log --datazilla-url results.json
# [16:21] <jmaher> Cwiiis: that will use local files instead of posting to a server
# [16:21] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: ok, and --nochrome is missing on the adb one too, is that relevant?
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# [16:22] <jmaher> Cwiiis: yes, you will need --noChrome, that is required on android tests
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# [16:23] <jmaher> note: the flag name is misleading
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# [16:25] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: So, I'm launching with "talos -v -e org.mozilla.fennec_cwiiis --develop --activeTests tsvgx --results_url tsvgx.log --datazilla-url tsvgx.json --noChrome --remotePort -1 --remoteDevice 10.246.29.16 --fennecIDs /home/cwiiis/Projects/fennec-build-android/dist/fennec_ids.txt"
# [16:25] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: I get "TypeError: fireProcess() got an unexpected keyword argument 'maxWaitTime'" and it quits shortly after
# [16:25] <jmaher> Cwiiis: you don't need --fennecIDs, that is only for robocop based tests
# [16:25] <@Cwiiis> ok - will it hurt if I include it without needing it?
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# [16:26] <jmaher> Cwiiis: maybe not, let me double check
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# [16:27] <jmaher> Cwiiis: adding --fennecIDs will break tsvgx- that is the key for the robocop tests and tweaks the profile accordingly
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# [16:34] <SirSkidmore> org/show_bug.cgi?id=912371 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=912371) and applied those patches, but my build is still failing in the same spots, am I doing something wrong
# [16:34] <SirSkidmore> ah!
# [16:34] <SirSkidmore> So, I would like to get involved in Firefox development, and so I cloned moz-central and started the build, only the build was failing from VS2012
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# [16:35] <SirSkidmore> I found two bugs https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=912371 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=912371 tried to patch those, but my build is still failing
# [16:35] <SirSkidmore> am I doing something wrong?
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# [16:58] <avih> Cwiiis: ping
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# [16:59] <jesup> SirSkidmore: are you trying to do cross-platform dev? That's extra tricky. Also, you posted the same bug # twice " ICU cross compiling support" - which seems unlikely to be your problem if you're not cross-platform building
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# [17:00] <avih> Cwiiis: anyway, it doesn't sound weird to me. we do have prior experience with talos tests which render less than they should, and fixing an actual issue, which apparently regresses, but actually improves is just fine. but we should confirm the actual improvement in rendering first. either by watching a device during a talos run, or by reproducing it outside of talos.
# [17:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db0f8a5eeb33 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 940754 - Fix rooting hazard in WorkerPrivateParent::WrapObject() r=bent
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# [17:02] <avih> jmaher: ^
# [17:02] <@Cwiiis> avih: sounds fair, I'm on that :)
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# [17:02] <jmaher> avih: but we need to determine the best route for making this test finish reliably in <1 hour, preferably <30 minutes
# [17:02] <avih> Cwiiis: cool. cc me on that regression bug pls?
# [17:02] <@Cwiiis> avih: will do
# [17:02] <avih> Cwiiis: thx.
# [17:03] <mjh563> SirSkidmore: what's the log output from the failed build?
# [17:03] <mjh563> you can upload it here https://pastebin.mozilla.org/
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# [17:04] <mjh563> SirSkidmore: also see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Windows_Prerequisites
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# [17:04] <avih> jmaher: yeah, i see your point. currently the test iterate fixed number of cycles, so if each cycle is longer, it'll take longer to complete. an alternative approach is to iterate for a fixed duration, and then count umber of cycles. we did consider it, however, it has a much lower resolution in detecting regressions, since the resolution is the number of cycles, so if a test is slow to iterate, such as the world map svg scaling - which
# [17:04] <avih> iterates 7 times iirc, then the resolution is roughly 15% (7+-1)
# [17:05] <avih> Cwiiis: ^
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# [17:06] <jwatt> jmaher: all the SVG Talos tests need to do is run for long enough for the run time to not be so close to zero that they can't detect regressions, no?
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# [17:06] <jwatt> jmaher: so why would we need them to run for anything like 30 minutes?
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# [17:06] <jwatt> it's less than a dozen test files
# [17:07] <avih> jmaher: Cwiiis:, however, we could maybe combine those to get a higher resolution while still limiting the test runtime, e.g. iterate for X seconds, then measure both the number of cycles AND the actual duration it took to complete, then divide one by the other, and we'll get a fairly accurate average iteration duration, even if the number of cycles was small.
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# [17:07] <jmaher> jwatt: well, on android it takes a lot longer to run, we load the page 'x' times so we can handle any noise in the data
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# [17:08] <avih> jmaher: the svg test has quite a few different pages, then the entire test runs 25 times, and then there's a big overhead when restarting the test for talos stuff. it accumulates
# [17:08] <avih> jwatt: ^
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# [17:10] <@Cwiiis> avih: assuminig that I'm right about the android situation and it's currently ~4 times faster than it should be, what do you think is the best route to fix it?
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# [17:10] <avih> Cwiiis: i don't get any of your statements :) i thought you said it's slower rather than faster (but renders better). and i also don't get what's broken and needs fixing.
# [17:11] <@Cwiiis> avih: sorry, I'm talking about it backwards :) So it is indeed now 4 times slower than before, but renders correctly
# [17:11] <avih> Cwiiis: ok. and the question is?
# [17:11] <@Cwiiis> avih: talos tsvgx needs fixing to not time out
# [17:12] <@Cwiiis> avih: what's the best way to go about that without making the test significantly less useful?
# [17:12] <avih> Cwiiis: a-ha! finally i hear about something which IS broken :)
# [17:12] <@Cwiiis> oh sorry, we should probably have mentioned that bit!
# [17:12] <@Cwiiis> hah :)
# [17:12] <avih> Cwiiis: i'd say the timeout should be adjusted, but regardless, we should think on how to speed up the test runtime.
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# [17:13] <@Cwiiis> avih: we're hitting the 1 hour timeout, which sounds like an unreasonably long time
# [17:13] <jmaher> avih: we really should get it to run in <30 minutes
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# [17:14] <avih> Cwiiis: but first thing first: we need a confirmation it actually performs better (visual confirmation), and then, if it is indeed, adjust the timeout first, then modify the test to run faster. but i'm open to other approaches.
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# [17:14] <@Cwiiis> avih: I'll hopefully get visual confirmation after this meeting - the logs confirm it, but you're right, we should know for sure
# [17:15] <avih> Cwiiis: tbh, 4x slower doesn't sound fun...
# [17:15] <jmaher> avih: we could do less iterations, split the test into two different tests, render it in a smaller window, etc.
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# [17:15] <avih> jmaher: all correct.
# [17:15] <@Cwiiis> avih: that's why I phrased it in the reverse before - it's not that it's 4x slower, it's that it's now correct and before it was 4 times too fast :)
# [17:15] <avih> :)
# [17:15] <@Cwiiis> Reducing the window size sounds like the easiest fix, if that's something we can do
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# [17:16] <avih> jmaher: as we know, landing a fixed test takes time. sometimes lots of. changing the timeout should be much quicker, hence i suggested this approach. and we should still definitely make it complete faster.
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# [17:16] <jmaher> avih: we won't get the timeouts changed
# [17:17] <avih> jmaher: ok
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# [17:17] <avih> jmaher: and now, why? :)
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# [17:20] <avih> jmaher: Cwiiis: if modifying the window size affects perf to the degree we want, then it sounds fine. but again, after visually verifying performance with normal window size, and also verifying visually that smaller window doesn't somehow make the test less relevant
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# [17:20] <@Cwiiis> avih: I'm not really sure what the test is meant to be testing (svg performance?) (jwatt?)
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# [17:20] <jmaher> avih: agreed; we do run at a pretty high resolution on our reference boards as compared to the majority of the devices
# [17:21] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: is there a way of altering window size in talos, or does it just use the device resolution?
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# [17:21] <@Cwiiis> I guess if it's headless, we should be able to specify arbitrary sizes(?)
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# [17:22] <avih> Cwiiis: just run it in normal (current) window, look at what it does, then look at it runs in smaller window, and verify that it still draws whatever it has been drawing with the larger window, just faster
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# [17:22] <avih> (and smaller)
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# [17:23] <@Cwiiis> avih: this is Android, you can't easily size windows like that
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# [17:23] <@Cwiiis> avih: at least, not normally
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# [17:23] <@Cwiiis> avih: which is why I ask if Talos handles it somehow
# [17:23] <@Cwiiis> (jmaher?)
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# [17:24] <avih> Cwiiis: i'm not familiar with how the test runs on android. jmaher suggested that we should resize the window, i assumed he know what he's saying.
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# [17:25] <jmaher> avih: Cwiiis: we could run it in an iframe at a certain size- otherwise we are stuck at full window size with android- changing the resolution of the device is not a realistic option
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# [17:25] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: iframe sounds reasonable, though is that something easy to do with how the tests get run?
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# [17:26] <jmaher> Cwiiis: it isn't, but we can work it in
# [17:26] <avih> jmaher: any chance you could run tsvgx on android locally, take a video (with a smartphone etc) of a single cycle, and let us see how it looks?
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# [17:27] <edmorley|sheriffduty> jwatt: Cwiiis: are either of you at the office? can you find jonco, if he's there?
# [17:27] <jmaher> avih: I don't have any displays on my boards- they are headless
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# [17:27] <@Cwiiis> edmorley|sheriffduty: I'm in, I haven't seen him - do you know that he's in?
# [17:27] <avih> jmaher: so who has an actual android device and could help us with it?
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# [17:27] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Cwiiis: I don't know; guessing not then - thank you anyway :-)
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# [17:27] <avih> Cwiiis: can you work it out with jmaher to run tsvgx locally on a device you have?
# [17:28] <@Cwiiis> avih: I'm going to try to do that, just need to figure out why talos isn't running for me atm
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# [17:28] <avih> Cwiiis: cheers
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# [17:28] <jmaher> Cwiiis: ok, lets figure that out- you are pretty close to getting there
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# [17:28] <RyanVM> decoder: ping
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# [17:29] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: shall we continue this over /msg? Might get a bit grating for others :)
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# [17:33] <avih> Cwiiis: oh, you're closing the door? :P
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# [17:33] <jwatt> Cwiiis, jmaher, avih: why not continue in #svg, since it's more relevant there
# [17:34] <avih> jwatt: ++
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# [17:34] <avih> or here :P it's not like the # is too busy ;)
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# [17:36] <bjacob> inbound has been closed, but nothing has been backed out. what's going on?
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# [17:36] <avih> jwatt: do not disturb :P
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# [17:37] <@Cwiiis> avih, jwatt, we're just discussing getting talos working on my local machine atm, I'll bring the convo back when I have results
# [17:37] <avih> cool
# [17:37] <mconley> catlee: ping
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# [17:37] <catlee> mconley: pong
# [17:37] <mconley> catlee: hey - that crash-with-no-crash-reporter thing you hit... was a bug ever filed? Also, can I assume that there won't be a report in about:crashes if the crash reporter didn't spawn?
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# [17:38] <catlee> mconley: nope, haven't filed a bug
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# [17:38] <@ted> mconley: if you don't get the crash reporter it won't be in about:crashes, no
# [17:38] <Archaeopteryx> mconley: no, that uses MOZ_CRASHREPORTER
# [17:38] <@ted> catlee: what OS was that?
# [17:38] <avih> Cwiiis: btw, other than watching some logs, did you recognize/fix a bug where it was drawing less than it should?
# [17:38] <catlee> ted: linux64
# [17:38] <@ted> bleh
# [17:38] <catlee> ted: happened twice right after updating
# [17:38] <bbondy> ted: good question, I'll post myelf a bug to look into it.
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# [17:38] <@ted> catlee: reproducible?
# [17:39] <@ted> or you just hit it more than once
# [17:39] <catlee> seems to be stable after starting for the 2nd time
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# [17:39] <catlee> not reproducible
# [17:39] <catlee> I've hit it twice
# [17:39] <mconley> catlee: I'm going to file a bug for you
# [17:39] <@ted> bbondy: awesome!
# [17:39] <catlee> both times immediately after updating
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# [17:39] <@ted> bbondy: just wanted to see how short the "setting up a linux build environment" was :)
# [17:39] <catlee> apply update -> restart -> crash -> restart -> running ok
# [17:39] <@Cwiiis> avih: yes, all the info is in the bug
# [17:39] <bbondy> Otherwise I did want to eventually make them available in standard open formats too should I find a good place to host them :)
# [17:39] <@ted> catlee: hrm!
# [17:39] <edmorley|sheriffduty> bjacob: waiting for retrigger
# [17:39] <avih> Cwiiis: reading now, though didn't get far yet. thx.
# [17:40] <@ted> bbondy: yeah, i dunno what the state of the art there is
# [17:40] <bbondy> ted: it's under 2 minutes
# [17:40] <catlee> ted: I can get you stdout/stderr from firefox
# [17:40] <@Cwiiis> avih: in short, the previous code was calculating the dimensions of the screen incorrectly, and so we made incorrect decisions about what to draw and when when doing progressive tiled updates
# [17:40] <@ted> bbondy: i'm sure we could get them on airmo
# [17:40] <avih> Cwiiis: gotcha.
# [17:40] <@Cwiiis> avih: on top of that, if a displayport wasn't set, we may end up skipping all high resolution drawing entirely
# [17:40] <edmorley|sheriffduty> bjacob: don't forget you can see who closed the tree on treestatus, linked from the menu in TBPL, and thus ask what is going on directly to them :-)
# [17:40] <bbondy> ya I'll figure it out
# [17:40] <avih> Cwiiis: ewww...
# [17:40] <@ted> bbondy: great stuff, btw
# [17:40] <bjacob> edmorley|sheriffduty: thanks
# [17:41] <bbondy> thanks!
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# [17:41] <@Cwiiis> avih: yeah :) The browser always sets a displayport, so this only affected tests like this one that manually setup windows
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# [17:41] <@Cwiiis> avih: the latter part - the former part affected everything
# [17:41] <edmorley|sheriffduty> bjacob: retrigger also orange (viewing stdout on the buildbot master to save time for the log upload and import to tbpl), so backing out now
# [17:41] <avih> Cwiiis: yeah, i understand. good find. both of them.
# [17:41] <bjacob> edmorley|sheriffduty: ok thanks
# [17:42] <mconley> catlee: if you wouldn't mind adding any pertinent information about what you were doing / what you experienced to bug 941044, that'd be awesome. Thanks!
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# [17:43] <NeilAway> hmm, no smaug... but maybe bz knows how I can find out what object thinks it's an event listener but doesn't have a callable HandleEvent method
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# [17:45] <@ehsan> BenWa: ping
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# [17:47] <Gijs> smontagu: did you file the titlebar stuff being reversed?
# [17:47] <smontagu> Gijs: not as a separate bug, no
# [17:48] <smontagu> shall I?
# [17:48] <Gijs> smontagu: please.
# [17:48] <Gijs> smontagu: needinfo mstange on the new bug :)
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# [17:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c8e22393c137 - Bobby Holley - Bug 939166 - Be more direct in GetStaticScriptGlobal. r=bz
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# [17:54] <philor> heh, I wonder how much mail philor@mozilla.com actually gets
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# [17:55] <catlee> I set that as my reply-to all the time
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# [17:55] <danieru> philor: I'll send you one if it makes you feel better.
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# [17:57] <daleharvey> anyone else not able to load the 'My Dashboard' page in bugzilla?
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# [17:57] <glob> daleharvey, works for me
# [17:58] <glob> daleharvey, can you describe what issue you're seeing?
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# [17:59] <daleharvey> glob: connection times out everytime, looks like its only with authenticated requests
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# [17:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b386567608d - Honza Bambas - Bug 895390 - Intermittent browser_privatebrowsing_cache.js | Disk cache reports 0KB and has no entries - Got 1, expected 0, r=emorley
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# [18:00] <glob> daleharvey, that's weird; it's connecting back to the same webheads that serve that page
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# [18:01] <daleharvey> hmm, logged in works in chrome
# [18:01] <NeilAway> naturally, I can't get the problem to reproduce in a debug build which has all the functions that I need to debug the problem :s
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# [18:01] <jwatt> ehsan: ping
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# [18:02] <daleharvey> heh, logged out and in, still failing
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# [18:02] <@ehsan> jwatt: hi
# [18:03] <glob> daleharvey, i doubt it's an auth issue. have you tried restarting firefox?
# [18:03] <daleharvey> So authenticated requests only in firefox (on nightly atm)
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# [18:03] <jwatt> ehsan: breakpoints are broken in xcode, and I suspect UNIFIED_SOURCES
# [18:03] <@ehsan> o_O
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# [18:03] <@ehsan> jwatt: tell me more!
# [18:04] <jwatt> ehsan: see the section at the top of http://lldb.llvm.org/troubleshooting.html
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# [18:04] <@ehsan> jwatt: does xcode use lldb?
# [18:04] <jwatt> ehsan: gdb has been removed from xcode 5
# [18:04] <daleharvey> glob: oh, that worked, weird since it was only the dashboard that was broken
# [18:04] <@ehsan> interesting
# [18:05] <jwatt> ehsan: not that gdb was usable for me, so I've been using lldb for some time
# [18:05] <@ehsan> jwatt: so it seems like that article describes exactly what you should do
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# [18:05] <jwatt> ehsan: unfortunately setting target.inline-breakpoint-strategy to always doesn't seem to help
# [18:05] <@ehsan> jwatt: (I use gdb on mac all the time fwiw)
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# [18:05] <@ehsan> hmm
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# [18:06] <@ehsan> jwatt: have you tried asking on lldb-dev?
# [18:06] <@ehsan> http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/lldb-dev
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# [18:06] <jwatt> ehsan: not yet
# [18:06] <@ehsan> this seems like a weird thing in lldb
# [18:06] <@ehsan> not sure if we can do anything to work around it
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# [18:06] <@ehsan> jwatt: (can you please CC me if/when you post to lldb-dev?)
# [18:07] <jwatt> ehsan: yes
# [18:07] <@ehsan> jwatt: also, it could be that your xcode lldb is old
# [18:07] <@ehsan> so you can try building from source and seeing if that lldbinit setting works that way
# [18:07] <jwatt> ehsan: it's as up to date as it gets
# [18:07] <@ehsan> not really
# [18:07] <@ehsan> if it's anything like clang that xcode ships, it's actually quite outdated :)
# [18:07] <jwatt> hmm
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# [18:08] <jwatt> I was running xcode with a self built lldb at one point
# [18:08] <jwatt> but it was very unstable
# [18:08] <jwatt> unusable, even
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# [18:09] <@ehsan> huh
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# [18:09] <@ehsan> sorry, I don't use xcode, so I don't have a lot of relevant experience
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# [18:32] <RyanVM> decoder: question about ASAN debug builds
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# [18:34] <decoder> RyanVM: shoot
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# [18:34] <RyanVM> decoder: my understand is that we build them mainly so we know they aren't broken
# [18:34] <decoder> RyanVM: yes, that and to get better traces in case we have a test
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# [18:35] <RyanVM> decoder: currently we're running checktests on them
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# [18:35] <RyanVM> should we be?
# [18:35] <decoder> hm
# [18:35] <decoder> i think there should be no errors detectable that opt builds wouldnt see too
# [18:35] <RyanVM> (especially since that means the builds can take 4+ hr)
# [18:35] <decoder> except if it's in #ifdef DEBUG code
# [18:35] <Jesse> decoder: i'm now on 10.9 and once again i have no working asan firefox :(
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# [18:36] <Jesse> decoder: with llvm rev 185949 i hit a memcpy overlap problem, http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=16362 / https://code.google.com/p/address-sanitizer/issues/detail?id=226
# [18:36] <RyanVM> decoder: the follow-on to that question is about what we should do once the CPP unit tests and JIT tests run on their own
# [18:36] <Jesse> there doesn't seem to be a workaround other than to update to a newer llvm, but then i hit other issues
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# [18:36] <decoder> Jesse: does strict_memcmp=0 fix it?
# [18:37] <Jesse> i tried ASAN_OPTIONS=replace_intrin=0 but that just made things worse
# [18:37] <decoder> Jesse: try ASAN_OPTIONS=strict_memcmp =0
# [18:37] <Jesse> decoder: i wouldn't expect it to, memcmp != memcpy
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# [18:37] <decoder> just in case
# [18:37] <decoder> oh memcpy
# [18:37] <decoder> RyanVM: i think we can disable the tests for debug builds if they cause such long runtimes
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# [18:38] <decoder> RyanVM: but I think we should fix the fact that jit-tests run twice even more.. and that affects all builds.. not just asan
# [18:38] <decoder> i dont understand why nobody looks into that
# [18:38] <RyanVM> decoder: yeah, I think we should either disable them now or make sure they remain enabled after the split
# [18:38] <RyanVM> decoder: good question for releng/ateam
# [18:38] <Jesse> apparently apple has decided to make memcpy just be an alias for memmove, which confuses asan into thinking that memmove calls are memcpy calls
# [18:38] <RyanVM> especially when they keep hammering about "EC2 costs us lots of money"
# [18:38] <RyanVM> catlee ^
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# [18:39] <decoder> Jesse: can you try applying the memcpy/memmove patch to r185949 as a temporary workaround?
# [18:39] <decoder> and also, we should be testing on linux too with asan, not just osx
# [18:39] <decoder> linux is much better supported
# [18:39] <decoder> in parallel we should address osx issues, but I cannot maintain that alone
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# [18:40] <decoder> RyanVM: i gotta run, but if you file a bug on disabling tests for asan dbg builds, then ill prepare a patch. sounds good?
# [18:40] <decoder> Jesse: ill bbl, let me know if the patch thing worked
# [18:40] <RyanVM> ok
# [18:40] <Jesse> ok i'll see if http://llvm.org/viewvc/llvm-project?view=revision&revision=191081 applies cleanly
# [18:40] <Jesse> decoder: i'm having other issues with linux :/
# [18:40] <froydnj> Jesse: heh, I wonder if that's working out as well for them as it did for linux
# [18:41] <catlee> RyanVM: hm?
# [18:41] <Jesse> froydnj: what did linux do and when?
# [18:41] <decoder> Jesse: please send me an email with all the linux issues and ill try to help as good as I can
# [18:41] <RyanVM> catlee: we've been double-running jit-tests for a couple months now
# [18:41] <RyanVM> catlee: doesn't seem like investigating it has gone anywhere
# [18:41] <RyanVM> certainly isn't helping our end-to-end times
# [18:41] <Jesse> decoder: my linux issue is "sometimes the whole fuzzing harness hangs" and i don't know how to find out which process is waiting for what other process to do what
# [18:42] <Jesse> it happens more with asan builds than non-asan builds
# [18:42] <catlee> I thought we fixed that...
# [18:42] <froydnj> Jesse: glibc tried making memcpy forward to memmove, I think, and it broke lots of things (notably flash)
# [18:42] <RyanVM> catlee: nope
# [18:42] <catlee> which bug?
# [18:42] <decoder> Jesse: a full ps aux + pstree might be a good start to check whats going on.. if you can provide that, then ill look at it
# [18:42] * decoder brb
# [18:43] <RyanVM> catlee: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30834213&tree=Mozilla-Central
# [18:43] <Jesse> froydnj: because there was some other time that linux tried going in the other direction and things broke because they relied on undefined behavior
# [18:43] <RyanVM> m-c tip
# [18:43] <RyanVM> catlee: i'm not finding the bug # offhand
# [18:43] <RyanVM> but you can see that it's still happening
# [18:44] <froydnj> Jesse: oh, maybe that's what I was thinking of
# [18:44] <froydnj> Jesse: that way makes a lot more sense that things would break
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# [18:44] <Jesse> yeah
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# [18:45] <catlee> RyanVM: that's make check's fault, no?
# [18:45] <RyanVM> catlee: dunno
# [18:46] <catlee> I think it's all within a single buildbot step
# [18:46] <jld> How... how on earth do you write code that breaks with memmove-as-memcpy but not with a modern fancy unrolled vectorized memcpy?
# [18:46] <RyanVM> point is, it affects build times and if RelEng is going to make an issue about the costs of our builds, it seems there would be interest in chasing down the cause and fixing it
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# [18:46] <RyanVM> even if it's yelling at ATeam management
# [18:46] <catlee> ctalbert: ^^
# [18:47] <catlee> :)
# [18:47] <@ted> ctalbert isn't our manager anymore :-O
# [18:47] <RyanVM> jgriffin ^
# [18:47] <catlee> doh!
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# [18:47] <RyanVM> catlee: I guess my question is why does it need to be the sheriffs screaming about it?
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# [18:47] <RyanVM> (given that RelEng's budget isn't directly my problem)
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# [18:48] <catlee> RyanVM: because we're unaware of it
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# [18:48] <catlee> if there's no bug
# [18:48] <RyanVM> there is
# [18:48] <RyanVM> just because I can't find it doesn't mean it isn't there
# [18:48] <catlee> so yeah, I see jit_test.py being called twice
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# [18:49] <catlee> RyanVM: sorry, this is the first I've heard about this
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# [18:50] <@ted> there are two calls to js/src check
# [18:50] <catlee> I was thinking of another issue where some test jobs were being triggered twice
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# [18:50] <@ted> make[1]: Leaving directory `/builds/slave/m-cen-lx-000000000000000000000/build/obj-firefox/security/build'
# [18:50] <@ted> make -C js/src check
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# [18:50] <@ted> make -C js/src check
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# [18:52] <nmatsakis> I'm seeing try errors like: Halting on failure while running ['unzip', '-q', '-o', '/builds/slave/test/build/firefox-28.0a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tests.zip', 'bin/*', 'certs/*', 'modules/*', 'mozbase/*', 'config/*', 'mochitest/*'] -- is this likely an infrastructure issue? hard to know I could have broken unzip
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# [18:52] <nmatsakis> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30838298&tree=Try
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# [18:53] <RyanVM> nmatsakis: not your fault
# [18:53] <RyanVM> been dealing with these for the last two days
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# [18:54] <nmatsakis> RyanVM: ok. thanks
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# [18:55] <catlee> ted: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/597287004ff5/Makefile.in#l259 ?
# [18:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2bf234be216e - Joel Maher - Bug 941053 - upload a new talos.zip to capture fix for ts_paint. r=jlund
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# [19:00] <froydnj> ted: so that's one check, where's the other one coming from?
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# [19:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4088133a80e6 - Steve Fink - Bug 940779 - Restrict the scope of a MessageEventInit so it cannot be live across a GC call, r=bent
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# [19:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/335ec0f81ead - Steve Fink - Bug 939472 - Remove buffer from multiview list when neutered, r=billm
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# [19:03] <SirSkidmore> mjh563: sorry about that, I had to go to Russian class
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# [19:04] <SirSkidmore> The guide (here: http://codefirefox.com/building-firefox/building-firefox) showed two bugs (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=939557 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=940220)
# [19:04] <SirSkidmore> I tried import and pushing those patches
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# [19:05] <SirSkidmore> and hg qapplied showed both of them being applied, but it was still failing
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# [19:05] <SirSkidmore> bug9402220 said "Apparently this was fixed by the backout of bug 912371.
# [19:05] <SirSkidmore> " which I don't particularly understna
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# [19:06] <jchen> froydnj: ping
# [19:06] <froydnj> jchen: pong
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# [19:06] <jchen> froydnj: hi, are you still looking at the patches in bug 932865?
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# [19:06] <froydnj> jchen: yup, going to review them today. apologies for the delay
# [19:07] <bbondy> SirSkidmore: it looks like this was recently backed out that might have fixed it: bug 912371. It's a bad time for vs2012 to stop working on mozilla-central tip, but it'll be fixed soon. It may be best to install vs2010 in the meantime or wait a couple days.
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# [19:07] <jchen> froydnj: no problem. take your time :) i actually have one more patch coming up to deal with some test failures
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# [19:08] <SirSkidmore> bbondy: okay
# [19:08] <SirSkidmore> I'll just install VS2010 for the time being
# [19:08] <@ted> froydnj: i sort of assume that moz.build started providing another
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# [19:09] <bbondy> SirSkidmore: great, let me know if you run into any trouble
# [19:09] <froydnj> ted: ah, that seems likely
# [19:09] <@Cwiiis> avih: so, getting a visual has proven harder than expected - it ends up that these tests don't actually show anything on the screen while they run. I'm pretty certain of my hypothesis though, given the logs... What could I do to further convince you that doesn't involve video footage?
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# [19:09] <avih> Cwiiis: yeah, i read your comment. unfortunately, i'm not too surprised...
# [19:09] <@ted> froydnj:
# [19:09] <@ted> TIERS += js
# [19:09] <@ted> tier_js_dirs += js/src
# [19:09] <@ted> DIRS += $(tier_js_dirs)
# [19:09] <@ted> from $objdir/backend.mk
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# [19:10] <@Cwiiis> avih: jmaher had a patch that got visuals back on screen, but it appears to not work anymore, so I think getting visual confirmation is going to be non-trivial
# [19:10] <avih> Cwiiis: i'm not looking for any kind of convincing, as i don't have any hypotheses we need to approve/disprove
# [19:11] <avih> Cwiiis: so, and with your patch, does it actually draw to screen?
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# [19:11] <@Cwiiis> avih: no, the way tsvgx is run, it does draw to buffers, but they never get shown on the screen
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# [19:11] <avih> Cwiiis: i was aware that observing it might show something unexpected, so i just wanted to know what's actually changing during runtime
# [19:11] <froydnj> jwatt: that lldb thing sounds bizarre
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# [19:12] <avih> Cwiiis: so is it an issue with tsvgx?
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# [19:12] <@Cwiiis> avih: yes, and I'm assuming other talos tests too? (jmaher?)
# [19:12] <SirSkidmore> can do bbondy !
# [19:12] <avih> because supposedly we would like the measure to include actual renders to screen
# [19:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab8b9448e062 - Steve Fink - Bug 940765 - pref_HashTableLookup cannot GC, r=terrence
# [19:12] <jmaher> Cwiiis: tp4_mobile and ts_paint do not have issues, the robocop based tests are posting similar results
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# [19:12] <@Cwiiis> avih: mm, and to not load a load of random chrome too
# [19:13] <avih> Cwiiis: i don't have an android device, so i've never seen talos run on android.
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# [19:13] <avih> Cwiiis: aye
# [19:13] <@Cwiiis> jmaher: is tsvgx the only nochrome test?
# [19:13] <@Cwiiis> I assume the doesn't-actually-draw-to-the-screen problem is on all noChrome talos tests(?)
# [19:13] <avih> Cwiiis: emphasis on random ;)
# [19:14] <jmaher> Cwiiis: no, tpn is the other one
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# [19:14] <jmaher> and tpn (tp4_mobile) doesn't draw to the screen either
# [19:14] <@ted> RyanVM: did you ever find a bug on running jit-tests twice?
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# [19:14] <avih> Cwiiis: fwiw, before we replaced tsvg with tsvgx, it wasn't drawing to screen (or almost not drawing) on desktop platforms as well.
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# [19:15] <@Cwiiis> This is kind of over my head these bits - I think we should just lower the iterations to get it green again, personally
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# [19:15] <avih> Cwiiis: well, we can't look away from the fact that it just doesn't draw anything to screen... that's the whole point of the test - how fast can it render...
# [19:16] <avih> lowering the number of iterations isn't likely to change that fact ;)
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# [19:17] <avih> Cwiiis: but i don't have an android device to test it. can you reproduce it outside of talos? e.g. load the svg pages manually and see what happens on screen in a normal browser?
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# [19:17] <jwatt> froydnj: how so?
# [19:17] <jmaher> avih: on fennec we have gecko and the java front end
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# [19:18] <jmaher> avih: most likely this is fixing it to work properly in gecko and we are just not seeing it in the java front end
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# [19:18] <avih> jmaher: and why do you think that's the likelyhood?
# [19:19] <jmaher> avih: because I have looked into this a bit and know that we don't display to the visible frontend
# [19:19] <jmaher> it has to do with how pageloader loads the urls
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# [19:20] <avih> jmaher: but the whole point of the tsvgx is to measure the performance of rendering...
# [19:20] <jmaher> avih: I have hacked around this a bit in the past- it is fixable, but to do it right we need to have the ability to load about:blank in fennec, right now we load about:home and invoke a lot of unecessary code
# [19:20] <RyanVM> ted: I'm told by reliable source that I was mis-remembering and no bug ever was filed :(
# [19:20] <jmaher> avih: well same with tp5
# [19:20] <avih> if we don't render to screen.. then surely we're not excercising the entire pipeline
# [19:20] <RyanVM> and yes, the crow tastes awful
# [19:20] <jmaher> avih: correct, this is discussed in the bottom half of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=908810
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# [19:21] <@ted> RyanVM: heh :)
# [19:21] <@ted> RyanVM: so i think this is a regression from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=910096
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# [19:21] <@ted> AFAICT
# [19:21] <@Cwiiis> avih: it doesn't reproduce in normal browser behaviour because normal browser behaviour will set a displayport and the issue doesn't occur
# [19:21] <@ted> but catlee pointed out what likely needs to change
# [19:21] <@ted> i'll push a patch to try
# [19:21] <@ted> can probably get it landed quickly
# [19:21] <@Cwiiis> avih: it's not that it doesn't draw, it just doesn't flip it to the screen
# [19:21] <RyanVM> ted: fits the "happening for a couple months now" timeframe :)
# [19:21] <RyanVM> ted: sweet
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# [19:21] <avih> Cwiiis: and flipping can have a perf cost
# [19:22] <froydnj> jwatt: oh, are you setting breakpoints like foo.cpp:34 ?
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# [19:22] <jmaher> avih: yes, but this is a problem for other tests as well; we are testing 80% of the process as it is now
# [19:22] <@Cwiiis> avih: oh yes, certainly :) But it's probably not huge vs. the cost of rendering the svgs and doing everything except for the flipping
# [19:22] <avih> Cwiiis: i understand that it does some/most of the work, but surely it would be better to actually see the screen update during the test?
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# [19:22] <jwatt> froydnj: I'm just clicking in the gutter on the left of the source in the xcode window
# [19:22] <jmaher> avih: yes, we want to do that- it requires some work on fennec and talos
# [19:22] <@Cwiiis> avih: definitely - but that's really not my domain
# [19:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e06fcbbba8e - Jon Coppeard - Bug 934421 - Postbarrier the keys of the plugin wrapper table r=terrence r=jschoenick
# [19:22] <avih> Cwiiis: yeah
# [19:22] <jwatt> froydnj: I don't know exactly what command that passes to lldb
# [19:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f03cceef2f1 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 940692 - Fix rooting hazard in CheckForOutdatedParent() r=smaug
# [19:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7762a99ce512 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 939476 - Only use separate GC stats phase for markDelayedChildren() in mark phase r=billm
# [19:23] <froydnj> jwatt: ah, ok
# [19:23] <avih> jmaher: so, where do we stand on this work? is it actively being worked on?
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# [19:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a8220e44cf03 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 940505 - Fix rooting hazard in JSObject2JSObjectMap::Add() r=bholley
# [19:23] <@Cwiiis> avih: well, part of it is, but I don't want to hold up this bug because of it - it's already taken too long :/
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# [19:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/323a25a692dc - Jon Coppeard - Bug 940639 - Fix rooting hazard in nsXPCComponents_Utils::(Un)blockScriptForGlobal() r=bholley
# [19:23] <jmaher> avih: we just happened to see this issue crop up and tried to debug it while having a broken display for these tests
# [19:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f517455f8f5 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 940727 - Fix rooting hazard in DOMProxyHandler::GetAndClearExpandoObject() r=bholley
# [19:23] <jmaher> avih: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=908810
# [19:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c9d2dcea4480 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 935136 - Remove the now unnecessary UnbarrieredMutableValueOperations r=terrence
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# [19:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e00d889fc72e - Jon Coppeard - Bug 940754 - Fix rooting hazard in WorkerPrivateParent::WrapObject() r=bent
# [19:23] <avih> jmaher: last activity almost a month ago...
# [19:24] <jmaher> avih: I cna get the talos bits going in a day or two, but I need work from the fennec guys
# [19:24] <jmaher> I should join the mobile meeting today and put it as a topic
# [19:24] <jmaher> ;)
# [19:24] <avih> jmaher: when is this meeting?
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# [19:24] <avih> and where? i'll pop in as well
# [19:25] <jmaher> mobile room, right now
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# [19:25] <avih> k, joining
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# [19:26] <@Cwiiis> jmaher, avih, the mobile meeting started about 50 minutes ago and ended about 10/15 minutes ago
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# [19:26] <jmaher> Cwiiis: oh, mobile testing
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# [19:27] <@Cwiiis> ah, ok :)
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# [19:28] <@Cwiiis> jmaher, avih, here's a try push with a patch from jmaher to reduce number of tsvgx iterations - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=82e103a7a04d
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# [19:28] <jmaher> Cwiiis: oh cool!
# [19:28] <avih> Cwiiis: i don't see you on vidyo mobile
# [19:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e244d1ff393 - Alexander Surkov - Bug 926812 - State change event not fired when both disabled and aria-disabled are toggled, r=tbsaunde
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# [19:29] <@Cwiiis> avih: ah, shall I join? I don't usually join the testing meeting, but I guess it'd help in this case :)
# [19:29] <@Cwiiis> been meetings city today...
# [19:29] <avih> Cwiiis: ah, i wasn't realizing it's a testing meeting :)
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# [19:32] <@Cwiiis> I'm there
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# [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> WTF
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# [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> robocop went orange on jonco's push
# [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> prior push was green
# [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> still orange after backing out
# [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ahh, and some green in between
# [19:36] <philor> releng?
# [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> clobber
# [19:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> "Unable to find view gecko_layout"
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# [19:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: i think it might go back to bustage from Tomcat's backokut
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# [19:38] <philor> I'd buy that
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# [19:38] <froydnj> oh man, the caps/ code is scary
# [19:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I'm just going to touch CLOBBER and get on with life
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# [19:38] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: philor: it might be clobber (I'm assuming it's the backout of my resource stuff).
# [19:38] <Ms2ger> froydnj, oops, now you own it
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# [19:38] <froydnj> Ms2ger: congradolences to me!
# [19:38] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: philor: it might be that somebody changed a resource that is now not listed (since the resource stuff loosened the listing)
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# [19:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nalexander: yep, that's what I'm going with
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# [19:39] <philor> froydnj: now that you own it, please fix bug 523779
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# [19:39] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: before you clobber, let me read for a second.
# [19:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nalexander: all signs are already pointing to it
# [19:39] <froydnj> philor: botsnack
# [19:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and I'm holding inbound closed off it
# [19:40] <nalexander> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah, clobber away. That resource is ancient.
# [19:40] * philor beams
# [19:40] <froydnj> philor: also, if dveditz hasn't fixed it in four years...
# [19:40] <philor> hey, he's probably no longer the default owner
# [19:41] <philor> there we go, appropriate owner
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# [19:41] <froydnj> it's sure to get fixed now!
# [19:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7bc0f68a4c1 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound on a CLOSED TREE.
# [19:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c730b25a3df - Ryan VanderMeulen - No bug - Touch CLOBBER due to bustage from recent backouts.
# [19:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7c730b25a3df - Ryan VanderMeulen - No bug - Touch CLOBBER due to bustage from recent backouts.
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# [19:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c6f5d02db22 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 0879fec4cfc3 (bug 896193) for frequent Linux xpcshell failures.
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# [19:52] <bjacob> vlad: are you disturbable for android/surface/crashes stuff ?
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# [19:54] <@ted> RyanVM|sheriffduty: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org//show_bug.cgi?id=941120
# [19:54] <vlad> bjacob: not at the moment, but in about half an hour
# [19:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ted: you rock
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# [19:55] <@ted> thank catlee for pointing out the brokenness
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# [19:57] <BenWa> ehsan: clobber at 10:02, nearly under 10 mins now :)
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# [19:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b76171a0d6ec - Gregory Szorc - NO BUG - Build docs for supported build configurations
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# [20:01] <@ehsan> BenWa: posting my numbers now to dev.platform, stay tuned
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# [20:03] <@bsmedberg> RELEASE_BUILD is defined in beta/release, right?
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# [20:05] <@ehsan> BenWa: vlad: ok, numbers are up
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# [20:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/befb8bacc65e - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 924307 - Disable browser_aboutHealthReport.js due to intermittent failures.
# [20:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gps: rnewman: ^
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# [20:15] <BenWa> ehsan: interesting how unifying build closed the gap between haswell and gen 1-3
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# [20:17] <rnewman> RyanVM|sheriffduty: fair
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# [20:17] <rnewman> sorry for never having time to do further investigation, and for not being on-site to poke gps to fix it
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# [20:17] <tbsaunde> froydnj: happen to have a idea why mac ld would claim a call to a final virtual method is an unresolved symbol?
# [20:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> rnewman: at least your email filters will get a break now ;)
# [20:18] <rnewman> :D
# [20:18] <gps> RyanVM|sheriffduty: could you at least give us a warning?
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# [20:18] <gps> there are legal concerns if that test silently regresses
# [20:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gps: were multiple pokes and pings in that bug over weeks not enough?
# [20:19] <gps> RyanVM|sheriffduty: if you threatened disable, someone would have looked at it
# [20:19] <froydnj> tbsaunde: not offhand
# [20:19] <froydnj> tbsaunde: though it sounds like it got devirtualized?
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# [20:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gps: I would have thought that we've already established plenty of precendent for disabling long-ingored and frequently failing tests
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# [20:20] <tbsaunde> froydnj: yeah, that was my thought
# [20:20] <tbsaunde> froydnj: is that necessarily legal? because of exactly this case
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# [20:20] <gps> RyanVM|sheriffduty: don't disable it on aurora and beta. i'll have a fix in a few hours
# [20:21] <froydnj> tbsaunde: is what legal? devirtualization?
# [20:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> wow, wonder where that was when I pinged on Nov 8 and Nov 6 after it had already been failing for a month without attention
# [20:21] <tbsaunde> froydnj: devirtualization in such a way that the method needs to be in the same object yes
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# [20:22] <tbsaunde> I guess seperate objects its sort of outside the spec so yes
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# [20:26] <deian> lsblakk: ping
# [20:26] <lsblakk> deian: pong
# [20:26] <@bsmedberg> hg histedit inbound/default says "abort: cannot edit immutable changeset: 181e285a7d51"
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# [20:27] <deian> lsblakk: I honestly don't understand what you meant in: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=919209#c14
# [20:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ttaubert: mochitest-mc has been perma-purple since you re-landed the shutdown leak detector
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# [20:28] <@bsmedberg> deian: if you wanted this to land in Firefox 26, you would need to request approval for firefox beta on the patch
# [20:28] <@bsmedberg> it's a bit late for that now, though
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# [20:29] <deian> bsmedberg: gotcha, thanks
# [20:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/247ff2131af5 - Kai Engert - Bug 938730 - avoid mix of memory allocators (crashes) when using system sqlite, r=asuth
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# [20:30] <philor> wow, we're not very good about retriggering metro-chrome, are we?
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# [20:31] <@gavin> bsmedberg: I don't really know histedit, but it makes sense that you can't histedit already-pushed history, no?
# [20:31] <gps> gavin: mercurial phases will prevent you from rewriting published changesets
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# [20:32] <bwc> bz: Ping about webidl changes in bug 906990 part 10; is CLOBBER going to be required?
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# [20:32] <@gavin> gps: yes, that is what I said!
# [20:32] <gps> bsmedberg: oh, that's the error you are running into. hg help phases
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# [20:32] <@bsmedberg> gps: that changeset is the inbound/default changeset that I don't want to change
# [20:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: took awhile...
# [20:32] <@bsmedberg> gps: but the docs for histedit say `hg histedit [parent]`
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# [20:33] <gps> bsmedberg: right. and mercurial is preventing you from changing changesets that have been published. it's a nice feature - one that Git doesn't have!
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# [20:33] <TimAbraldes> gps: ping
# [20:33] <gps> TimAbraldes: (autoresponse) content-free ping detected. Please consider providing some additional context so I can address your questions more efficiently.
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# [20:33] <bz> bwc: looking
# [20:33] <@bsmedberg> gps: I don't *want* to change that... it's the parent, though, right?
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# [20:33] <gps> if you want to branch or something, use transplant or graft to copy those changesets to a new branch
# [20:33] <@bsmedberg> I want to change everything on top of it
# [20:33] <@bsmedberg> I have a bookmark
# [20:33] <gps> bsmedberg: specify the first revision you wish to edit
# [20:33] <@gavin> bsmedberg: it probably doesn't actually mean "parent"
# [20:33] <bz> bwc: I don't know
# [20:33] <@bsmedberg> argh
# [20:33] <@bsmedberg> git rebase -i knows what I mean more automatically :-(
# [20:33] <bz> bwc: one of the sheriffs might have a better idea of what changes end up needing clobber
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# [20:34] * bz really needs to finish reviewing gps' changes
# [20:34] <lsblakk> deian: bsmedberg covered it - i was asking you to nominate the patch for uplift if taking it to branches was low risk, but yet at this point it's too late in the beta cycle for non-critical patches
# [20:34] <gps> TimAbraldes: yes?
# [20:34] <TimAbraldes> gps: hey, I'm checking out supported-configurations.rst
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# [20:34] <gps> bsmedberg: what's the environment variable for forcing the XPCOM service cache thingie to invalidate?
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# [20:35] <gps> i.e. I change a JS file providing a service and changes aren't reflected because of some cache
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# [20:35] <@bsmedberg> gps: MOZ_PURGE_CACHES, I think
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# [20:35] <@bsmedberg> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/xre/nsAppRunner.cpp#3677
# [20:35] <gps> bsmedberg: that sounds right - thanks
# [20:36] <bwc> bz: So, the thing I'm worried about is the same type of modification that burned the tree before and resulted in bug 928195 being filed.
# [20:36] * @bsmedberg needs a way to say "the changeset after inbound/default towards the current head" apparently
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# [20:37] <bwc> bz: And you're in a position to say whether it might be worth giving it a go without a CLOBBER.
# [20:37] <gps> bsmedberg: first(children(X))
# [20:37] <deian> lsblakk: thanks, makes sense.
# [20:37] <bz> bwc: I'm actually not
# [20:37] <gps> gps: but there can be multiple children, so not reliable
# [20:37] <wsmwk> bsmedberg: re: your d&d TB question. there are bugs filed about animation and visual queue, but not about the functionality failing
# [20:37] <gps> did I just target myself. ugh
# [20:37] <bz> bwc: because I haven't been keeping track of what sort of webidl changes need a clobber
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# [20:37] <@gavin> qbase!
# [20:37] <@bsmedberg> yeah, it's not the first child
# [20:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bwc: I would basically assume that there are no guarantees Windows will pick up your change if you make one and go from there
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# [20:38] <@bsmedberg> gavin: yeah well, gps was pushing me to switch from mq to bookmarks
# [20:38] <@gavin> yeah I know
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# [20:38] <bwc> RyanVM: Ok, I'll update CLOBBER then.
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# [20:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bwc: better safe than sorry
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# [20:46] <gps> TimAbraldes: I didn't see a question
# [20:47] <TimAbraldes> gps: you seemed busy, I silently decided to start responding in the dev-platform thread and/or wait for you to not be in the middle of another conversation :)
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# [20:48] <TimAbraldes> gps: I took a look at the doc; it looks nice! So would the plan be to add a "known issues" section somewhere so that people can find out what config options are causing their build issues?
# [20:49] <@ehsan> BenWa: yeah I imagine intel hates me very much at the moment ;)
# [20:49] <BenWa> ehsan: haha
# [20:49] <vlad> ehsan: numbers up where?
# [20:50] <@ehsan> vlad: dev-platform
# [20:50] <BenWa> gps: Given that the gap between haswell and intel gen 1-3 are closing I wonder if its worth rushing to buy everyone a new machine. If this trend continue the time difference may end up being about 30% like we expect
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# [20:51] <@bsmedberg> bholley: as part of making NS_ERROR_INVALID_POINTER and NS_ERROR_INVALID_ARG the same error value, I had to reorder xpc.msg and fix a few tests. Can you look over https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/223f49bfeb37 ?
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# [20:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: OOC, have you measured other platforms to see if the win is as big elsewhere?
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# [20:56] <vlad> ehsan: how do I disable unified?
# [20:57] <gps> TimAbraldes: a known issues section sounds good
# [20:57] <gps> vlad: wait a few hours and there will likely be a build flag
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# [20:57] <gps> this is a 10 line Python patch
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# [20:57] <vlad> yeah
# [20:58] <vlad> (I just want to time it, for the record :)
# [20:58] <gps> ehsan just did. see dev.platform
# [20:58] <BenWa> vlad: ehsan posted it with his post to dev.platform
# [20:58] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I haven't
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# [21:00] <vlad> yeah, I don't want to touch moz.build files (this is my actual tree, I'm doing some work!)
# [21:00] <vlad> where are moz.build files read?
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# [21:02] <gps> vlad: https://ci.mozilla.org/job/mozilla-central-docs/Build_Documentation/build-overview.html
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# [21:02] <gps> tl;dr config.status
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# [21:08] <vlad> our idiomatic overarchitected python is getting in the way of doing things quickly
# [21:09] <vlad> how do I nuke the contents of sandbox['UNIFIED_SOURCES']
# [21:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dcda572f9956 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 917454 - Add objectType function r=till
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# [21:09] <vlad> I can't delete it, I can't assign a new StrictOrderingOnAppendList to it, I can't assign null to it
# [21:11] <gps> vlad: i'll just remove the footgun safeties so we can dig ourselves into another hole it will take 10 years to dig out of
# [21:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e889f242bb58 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 939414 - Dump memory stats for browser-chrome. (r=ted)
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# [21:14] <edwin> My #1 use of devtools: hiding paywalls that are merely overlays over the actual content.
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# [21:15] <ttaubert> RyanVM|sheriffduty: was away, sorry you had to back out
# [21:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b04002bea94 - Terrence Cole - Bug 940755 - Add an exact rooting suppression for AutoAssertNoGC; r=sfink
# [21:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2267eab2fde3 - Terrence Cole - Bug 940718 - Create the first safe JSContext in a GC safe location; r=bholley
# [21:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e0009c38c50 - Ted Mielczarek - Bug 941120 - Stop running make check twice in js/src. r=gps
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# [21:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ted++
# [21:19] <@ted> told you that should be quick :)
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# [21:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ted: I bet the ASAN builds appreciate that
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# [21:26] <bz> mmm, so our attachment numbers are perma-big?
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# [21:27] <Archaeopteryx> bz: http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/7154
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# [21:28] <jesup> edwin: Or use HackTheWeb (extension) to blow away elements
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# [21:28] <jesup> I mostly use it to reformat junk for printing to save paper/make-readable
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# [21:29] <jesup> or for saving copies of a page without the ad-cruft
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# [21:31] <SirSkidmore> bbondy: just got my build up and running
# [21:31] <SirSkidmore> thanks for your suggestion to just switch over to VS2010
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# [21:32] <bbondy> SirSkidmore: awesome thanks for letting me know. I updated the windows-dev-env and simple build pages to mention that you should use vs2010 as a temporary workaround.
# [21:32] <qui> test
# [21:32] <KWierso> fail
# [21:32] <dhylands> I need a reviewer for a device storage test (mochitest) which I updated. Bug 901456 - Any takers? Or suggestions for somebody to review it?
# [21:32] <qui> #firefox seems to be silenced. i can't speak there.
# [21:33] <SirSkidmore> also bbondy you're the bbondy from codefirefox.xom!
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# [21:33] <KWierso> qui: any errors?
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# [21:34] <KWierso> oh, you have to register and identify yourself, I guess
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# [21:34] <SirSkidmore> It's a great resource, and was definitely a motivation for me to start trying to build sources and try and contribute back
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# [21:34] <bbondy> thanks for the great feedback, much appreciated and glad to hear it :)
# [21:35] <KWierso> qui: /msg NickServ REGISTER [somepassword] [youremailaddress]
# [21:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1db4516a89b1 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 924307 - Intermittent "reporter is null at abouthealth.js:27"; r=rnewman
# [21:35] <KWierso> then in the future, do /msg NickServ IDENTIFY [thatpassword] before joining #firefox and you should be good to go
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# [21:36] <qui> KWierso, thank you for that. I'm familiar with registration from other irc networks. It's a pain :)
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# [21:37] <KWierso> qui: I think there was a bunch of spamming going on recently, so a few channels have been locked down a bit to stop it
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# [21:38] <qui> I figured that caused the change when you mentioned it. Troublemakers ruin the internet.
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# [21:44] <@bsmedberg> What's the deal with infra bustage?
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# [21:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea7e3169f3ff - Jonathan Kew - bug 941090 - build most of gfx/ots in unified mode. r=ehsan
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# [21:54] <dholbert> mbrubeck++
# [21:54] <dholbert> (one of Seinfeld's less-popular routines)
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# [21:55] <philor> Didja ever notice how when you put slaves in Amazon's dc, and masters in ours, or the other way around, you then break when the internet is what the internet is, and then break the next run on the same slave?"
# [21:55] <froydnj> probably because Seinfeld has failed to come up with a punchline
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# [22:00] <shu> "they're glued on jerry! you think you can move em so you reach in to switch em around but you can't, jerry! you can't!"
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# [22:00] <philor> :)
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# [22:01] <philor> so is https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&showall=1&onlyunstarred=1&rev=befb8bacc65e what a reftest run looks like when it can't manage to *lose* focus?
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# [22:04] <nemo> hm. Firefox Download manager is saying "0 bytes" for some downloaded CSVs, even tho the on-disc size is 1,328KiB
# [22:04] <nemo> (latest nightly)
# [22:04] <froydnj> nemo: yeah, I've noticed that too
# [22:04] <froydnj> nemo: I think that happens when it can't get content-length from the server or something like that
# [22:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/828b7a8e6647 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 940426 - part 1 - properly stop observing all the sources in nsXULTemplateBuilder; r=bz
# [22:04] <nemo> huh...
# [22:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/daf343a5478c - Nathan Froyd - Bug 940426 - part 2 - don't observe xpcom-shutdown in nsXULTemplateBuilder; r=bz
# [22:04] <nemo> froydnj: but.. size is known in transit!
# [22:05] <nemo> froydnj: after all there's a progress bar and bytes downloaded
# [22:05] <nemo> that kinda seems like fail to me
# [22:05] <nemo> and ofc size on disc after
# [22:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/430d402e2c45 - Ehsan Akhgari - Follow-up to bug 936912: Fix a compiler warning
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# [22:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ebe4185ca885 - Chris Pearce - Bug 886196 - Configure option and pref for fragmented mp4 parser. r=glandium
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# [22:12] <@smaug> romaxa: crossing fingers
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# [22:27] <rstrong> nthomas: I was wondering if new stubs could be created for the current funnelcake study. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=933847#c39
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# [22:36] <nthomas> rstrong: is that so that the info we return on results/problems is distinguishable ?
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# [22:37] <rstrong> nthomas: yes, we can't tell whether it is a funnelcake 26 or 28 stub or if it i a non funnelcake stub
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# [22:37] <rstrong> and with it only being served to 10% it is lost in the noise
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# [22:40] <rstrong> nthomas: with it only being served to 10% of the users and the cancellation rate being on average aroun 20% for the GEO regions we are looking at a 10% difference is not noticeable and is within the variance of day to day changes
# [22:40] <nthomas> ah, ok
# [22:40] <rstrong> 20% of total that is
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# [22:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0382b3638f2 - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 672843 part B - Remove NS_ENSURE_PROPER_AGGREGATION, r=froydnj
# [22:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ac67f3ed986 - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 672843 part D2 - Fix the xpconnect exception code and Components.results to prefer the name NS_ERROR_ILLEGAL_VALUE over the other synonyms. Fix a few tests that
# [22:51] <firebot> rely on exception names to use exception values instead. r=bholley
# [22:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b97a8e70618 - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 672843 part D - make NS_ERROR_INVALID_POINTER an alias of NS_ERROR_INVALID_ARG, r=froydnj
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# [22:52] <firebot> debug and non-debug versions are local in the file, because that makes it easier for new contributors to understand. r=froydnj sr=jst
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# [22:59] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: hey, neat, did metrochrome bustage land while metrochrome was busted?
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# [23:00] <AutomatedTester> "I heard you like bustages so I landed a bustage on a bustage"
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# [23:02] <froydnj> "so you can have bustage even when you backout your bustage for bustage"
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# [23:03] <AutomatedTester> froydnj: ++
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# [23:05] <mbrubeck> the new metro bustage is jimm
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# [23:06] <jimm> whaaat?
# [23:06] <mbrubeck> should be an easy fix
# [23:06] <jimm> oh no
# [23:06] <mbrubeck> missed a _shiftBrowserDeck in test code
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# [23:06] <@bsmedberg-away> FML, my MYBUGS query shows me so many bugs I wrote patches for, got reviews, and never landed :-(
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# [23:06] <jimm> mbrubeck: odd, a local run didn't sturn that up
# [23:06] <jimm> oh!
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# [23:06] <jimm> those are perf tests
# [23:06] <mbrubeck> jimm: debug build? We disable all of mochiperf and some of mochitest in debug
# [23:07] <mccr8> yeah it would be nice to have some kind of query of reviewed unlanded patches I've written
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# [23:08] <froydnj> bsmedberg-away: mccr8: http://harthur.github.io/bugzilla-todos/ can tell you that in a nice little interface
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# [23:10] <mccr8> ah nice
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# [23:11] <@bsmedberg-away> that has a little too much info...
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# [23:12] <gps> ted: looks like double jit-test was eating ~15 minutes!
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# [23:13] <gps> at least for EC2 linux builds
# [23:13] <froydnj> so ted gets like a month of pto for all the time he just saved, right?
# [23:13] <@ted> crazy
# [23:13] <@ted> sweet
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# [23:13] <@ted> cya in 2014
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# [23:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/52bab4bd7d9c - Brian Smith - Bug 707275, Part 2: Add telemetry for cipher suites and key sizes, r=keeler, a=lsblakk
# [23:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/228b8f395b10 - Brian Smith - Bug 707275, Part 1: Add telemetry for TLS intolerance, r=keeler, a=lsblakk
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# [23:17] <@ehsan> BenWa: what was the bug number for the will-animate thing?
# [23:17] <BenWa> bug 940842
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# [23:17] <@ehsan> ta
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# [23:39] <glandium> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ehsan is getting impatient (941098)
# [23:39] <@ehsan> huh?
# [23:40] <@ehsan> oh
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# [23:40] <khuey> ehsan want mozmake
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# [23:43] <KWierso> briansmith: aurora bustage :(
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# [23:43] <briansmith> KWierso: I just saw it
# [23:43] <briansmith> It seems like I need to uplift the patch for bug 932281 now too.
# [23:43] <briansmith> I am looking into it
# [23:43] <KWierso> okay
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# [23:53] <briansmith> KWierso: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Aurora&rev=4a996059df97
# [23:53] <KWierso> briansmith: yep
# [23:53] <KWierso> thanks
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# [23:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> well, that was embarrasing
# [23:54] * RyanVM|sheriffduty got locked out of his house for 2 hours
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# [23:54] <philor> it took you *two hours* to find a rock?
# [23:54] <KWierso> did it cost you $100 to get back in like it did for me a few months back?
# [23:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/038356d89dc2 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 834243 - avoid calling serverSurfaceChanged before the compositor is created - r=vladv
# [23:55] <RyanVM> heh, thankfully I have some friendly neighbors to keep me out of the cold until the wife got home :)
# [23:55] <RyanVM> anyway, sorry for the absense
# [23:55] <KWierso> and did you have to stand outside of your apartment for an hour and a half for the locksmith guy to show up while you're carrying a basket of dirtly laundry?
# [23:56] <RyanVM> glandium: ehsan: sorry :(
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# [23:56] <RyanVM> been hard to spend time on that with the tree being such a mess lately :(
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