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4. # [00:01] <jorendorff> Waldo: is there a JS::ToObject?
5. # [00:02] <Waldo> jorendorff: pretty sure there is
6. # [00:02] <Waldo> jorendorff: at least there's js::ToObject, and if that's not in JS we should move it
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8. # [00:02] <jorendorff> +1
9. # [00:02] <Waldo> hm, might not be yet http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=toobject%28j
10. # [00:02] <Yoric> So what's the replacement for SHARED_LIBRARY_LIBS?
11. # [00:03] * Yoric will ask on #build, actually.
12. # [00:03] <Waldo> followup, obviously
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52. # [00:21] <KWierso|sheriffduty> RyanVM|afk: one of your uplifts broke stuff
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54. # [00:22] <philor> I can't remember the last PSL update that didn't break stuff
55. # [00:22] <philor> I can, however, remember the last time I said "well, maybe there should be comments in the list about the things which are used in tests"
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59. # [00:23] <@dbaron> Is the blue on inbound a problem?
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62. # [00:24] <philor> depends on whether you're in a hurry or not
63. # [00:24] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: all of simone's stuff coming out?
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65. # [00:25] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: should be just https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a8808a02a661
66. # [00:25] <firebot> Check-in:
67. # [00:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/778a10a2b497 - L. David Baron - Bug 940446: Log a variable that's guaranteed to exist, so we don't throw an exception from the exception handler and break the URL bar and search bar. r=smacleod
68. # [00:26] <philor> surprisingly, they seem not to have any tests using lib.wv.us
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72. # [00:27] <philor> dbaron: the slightly less flippant answer is "yeah, it's a sign that putting masters in ec2 controlling slaves in one of our data centers absolutely will not work, because the network between them flaps like a flag in a hurricane, but it's nothing new right now or today"
73. # [00:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c6f465d6cfb0 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset a8808a02a661 (bug 880625) for PSL test failure
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88. # [00:40] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: food time with family, feel free to close stuff if you can't get things backed out :)
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91. # [00:41] <KWierso|brb> philor: back in probably an hour
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95. # [00:45] <philor> I'm more likely to close for infra
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100. # [00:46] <cpeterson> Who owns the TryChooser Syntax Builder website?
101. # [00:47] <philor> releng, though it's equally accurate to say edmorley does
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103. # [00:47] <cpeterson> thanks, philor
104. # [00:47] <philor> depending on whether you mean "what product do I file in?" or "who should I ask for review on this patch?"
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108. # [00:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e781364ed4f8 - David Keeler - bug 943115 - return early in CreateCertErrorRunnable for non-overridable errors r=briansmith
109. # [00:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fc7b76d9da1e - David Keeler - bug 929617 - disregard expired stapled OCSP responses, acquire fresh ones r=briansmith
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111. # [00:52] <NeilAway> bnicholson: these days events know which document created them, so you have to construct them using the page's document if you want the page to be able to access them
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119. # [00:53] <bnicholson> NeilAway: yeah, Ms2ger told me use ownerDocument.defaultView.Event instead
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126. # [00:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5ffbe993973c - Seth Fowler - Bug 910533 - Clear invalidation rect only after sync notifying in imgStatusTracker. r=tn a=bajaj
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134. # [01:01] <cpeterson> philor: ping?
135. # [01:01] <philor> cpeterson: yo
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137. # [01:01] <cpeterson> philor: I had a couple questions about tree closures (in general).
138. # [01:02] <cpeterson> philor: what are the most common infra problems that cause tree closures?
139. # [01:03] <philor> 1. reconfig which puts something busted into production 2. maintenance window 3. the damn flapping network between us and ec2 sends us into a panic
140. # [01:04] <philor> wups, should have slipped "builds-4hr.js.gz not being updated" in there around 2
141. # [01:05] <philor> and if you look at the things tagged infra in https://treestatus.mozilla.org/mozilla-central it'll tell you that the flappy network is number 1, but the last few weeks have been skewing things
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144. # [01:06] <cpeterson> philor: that is very interesting. I'm reading a discussion about tree closures that said we are now averaging 8 backouts/day vs 5 a year ago.
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146. # [01:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53c0f65599fe - Steve Workman - Bug 938803 - Cancel DNS refresh requested in nsHttpChannel::mCaps r=mcmanus
147. # [01:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a25ee567449 - Steve Workman - Bug 938803 - Cancel DNS refresh requested in classes implementing nsAHttpTransaction r=mcmanus
148. # [01:07] <cpeterson> philor: what is builds-4hr.js.gz?
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151. # [01:08] <philor> cpeterson: the json file that releng produces to tell tbpl what jobs have finished, what their status was, what revision they ran on, and where to find the log
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157. # [01:10] <cpeterson> philor: so every mozilla-inbound job should produce a builds-4h.js.gz and the treestatus comments about builds-4h.js suggest that the job did not complete or a network problem?
158. # [01:10] <philor> and an increase in backouts doesn't surprise me in the least; even if it's an increase in percentage of pushes backed out, which it isn't necessarily, if you graphed the increase in backouts over the increase in average time to get try results, you'd probably find the former matching the latter with a lag of a few weeks, as people said "screw 6/7/9/11/14/18 hours for try, inbound is my tryserver"
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160. # [01:12] <philor> cpeterson: no, http://builddata.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildjson/builds-4hr.js.gz is a monolithic "every single job which finished in the last 4 hours", so if it stops being updated then tbpl no longer knows about the result of any job on any tree
161. # [01:13] <cpeterson> oh, I see.
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164. # [01:14] <philor> the recent ones are from a cronjob that tried to restart the db server once a week, but failed to actually restart it, earlier ones are from random bustages that led to wanting to restart it
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168. # [01:16] <markh> hrm - bugzilla won't let me add a needinfo request on a new bug?
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170. # [01:16] <cpeterson> philor: The releng redis bugs make for interesting reading. Thanks for taking the time to indulge my questions. <:)
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172. # [01:17] <philor> np!
173. # [01:17] <philor> markh: it probably thinks you're overusing it, and should give people a chance to read bugmail and respond naturally
174. # [01:18] <philor> or maybe that's me ;)
175. # [01:18] <markh> philor: yeah, so I've got to CC them instead :(
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177. # [01:19] <philor> the best thing is how we now have people whose realname is "needinfo me!" and people whose realname is "stop with the damn needinfo, I read my bugmail!"
178. # [01:19] <philor> for very small values of best
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180. # [01:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c9ff42335f8a - John Schoenick - Bug 941892 - Take an early return if nsPluginStreamListenerPeer gets passed an unknown stream. r=bsmedberg
181. # [01:21] <markh> lol - yeah. for ages I thought "needinfo me!" was saying "hey, I need more bugs to look at - if you don't know who to ask, ask me!"
182. # [01:21] <jld> Is NS_RUNTIMEABORT supposed to bypass the crash reporter? It has a comment that's sort of ambiguous on that front.
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185. # [01:25] <cpeterson> seth: see 941854 and 943208
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187. # [01:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/95f3ce0b7c96 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 932888. Remove thebes paths from ThebesLayerBuffer (part 1). r=mattwoodrow
188. # [01:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c38b37bee015 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 932888. Azurify some intermediate surfaces in BasicLayerManager. r=mattwoodrow
189. # [01:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35014d18ff1f - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 932888. Rename ThebesLayerBuffer. r=mattwoodrow
190. # [01:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0ac87065f1a - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 932888. Remove some now unnecessary includes. r=mattwoodrow
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192. # [01:28] <markh> WTF - so I added the needinfo after submitting the bug, and it added to CC anyway...
193. # [01:28] * markh is clearly confused about needinfo...
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196. # [01:30] <philor> yeah, needinfo autocc's
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200. # [01:32] <philor> we should just switch to the Netscape-era practice of assigning bugs for needinfo, "hey, John, assigning this to you because I need to know if foo is bar, assign it back to me with an answer"
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217. # [01:43] <philor> so awesome, I'm learning test failures that are the result of a previous job getting disconnected in mid run
218. # [01:44] * philor embraces constant disconnects, continuing to squeeze while they get more and more uncomfortable and begin to panic
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229. # [01:47] <gozala> mfinkle: are you around ?
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231. # [01:48] <sunfish> how does tbpl decide which platforms to test on for a given push?
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233. # [01:49] <sunfish> it's odd that my recent push, which does contain an ARM codegen change, was apparently not run on any ARM platforms
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238. # [01:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b61e4769b8ed - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 942994 - Introduce clicked sound. r=marcoz
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240. # [01:51] <philor> sunfish: there are two things: looking at what files were touched to decide whether to try to schedule a build for desktop/fennec/b2g, and also "coalescing", the fun thing where if your builds are still pending while a push above you also has pending builds, then the push above gets them and you don't
241. # [01:52] <philor> sunfish: so if you look at self-serve for your push, you'll see what it decided to schedule on you, even though the things may actually have run on a push one or ten or twenty pushes above you
242. # [01:52] <firebot> Check-in:
243. # [01:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f73da8ab5911 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 940843 Don't consume keydown event in content of print preview because following keypress event may be handled as access key or shortcut key r=mats+smaug
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248. # [01:54] <philor> which is also why you got spidermonkey shell builds (because nobody above you was trying to schedule them) but not linux desktop builds
249. # [01:54] <sunfish> ok
250. # [01:54] <philor> because the constant disconnects mean that our linux build slave pool is utterly saturated, and that's what builds android, too
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252. # [01:56] <sunfish> there are plenty of ARM builds after my push, so I'm not worried, but it is useful to understand :-)
253. # [01:56] <NeilAway> WTF is new (aChain.AppendElement()) nsEventTargetChainItem(aTarget) ? (did you mean aChain.AppendElement(nsEventTargetChainItem(aTarget)) or even aChain.AppendElement(aTarget)?)
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257. # [02:01] <gozala> ping dvander
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302. # [02:39] <philor> KWierso|brb: I don't care for the look of that sworkman guy
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304. # [02:39] <KWierso|brb> philor: me neither
305. # [02:39] <philor> shifty eyes, and too assertive
306. # [02:41] <KWierso|brb> philor: I'm shifting his eyes out of the tree at the moment
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377. # [03:22] <@njn> what's the bugzilla product/component for getting something installed on build machiens?
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381. # [03:25] <KWierso|afk> njn: probably a good question for #releng :)
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383. # [03:25] <KWierso|afk> but that sounds like a good guess
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432. # [04:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9849749f3623 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 076bf878c59a (bug 942432) for build bustage
433. # [04:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b66f95073899 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset db836ecd7746 (bug 943613) for build bustage
434. # [04:12] <@njn> now that builds are so much faster, I can't get much other stuff done while waiting for a build to finish
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436. # [04:13] <@njn> "profound thoughts of the day", brought to you by njn
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441. # [04:17] <@dolske> I was hoping for something deeper.
442. # [04:17] <@dolske> maybe if your build took longer...
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445. # [04:19] <@njn> dolske: thebes wasn't built in a day
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449. # [04:20] <reuben> dolske++
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451. # [04:22] <@dolske> alternate: "When in Chrome..."
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454. # [04:25] <heycam> dolske++
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459. # [04:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/fbf07e6b7eba - Seth Fowler - Bug 936720 - Add a new mochitest for animated image operators and remove reftests for animated image operators. r=tn, r=jdm, a=test-only
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503. # [05:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3b13e75034a - Brian Smith - Bug 898431: Update NSS to NSS 3.15.4 beta 5 (NSS_3_15_4_BETA5), r=me
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507. # [05:22] <philor> beta per day, huh?
508. # [05:25] <philor> "ABORT: CRT ERROR HEAP CORRUPTION DETECTED"
509. # [05:25] <philor> that's probably not a good thing, is it?
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512. # [05:27] <Unfocused> philor: eh, most of us use LCD monitors anyway
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518. # [05:32] <@njn> philor: not good at all; some kind of memory corruption
519. # [05:32] <philor> in devicestorage/ipc? gasp!
520. # [05:33] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=31133564&full=1&branch=mozilla-inbound#error2
521. # [05:33] <philor> hello GC
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528. # [05:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e6abaea8f58 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 943712 - Build parts of dom/mobilemessage in unified mode; r=gene
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532. # [05:47] <rnewman> philor: let me fix that typo that hit fx-team
533. # [05:47] <rnewman> musta been a bad patch re-apply
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535. # [05:48] <@njn> argh, how do I get the char* out of an nsACString?
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538. # [05:50] <@njn> ah, PromiseFlatCString(aPath).get()
539. # [05:50] <@njn> of course
540. # [05:51] * rnewman stars three failures as penance
541. # [05:51] <romaxa> glandium: ping, do you know what is the point of unified sources?
542. # [05:52] <glandium> romaxa: faster builds, smaller debug info, better optimization
543. # [05:52] <romaxa> glandium: hassle with includes order in cpp files?
544. # [05:52] <romaxa> glandium: how do you deal with that?
545. # [05:52] <@njn> romaxa: I would amend glandium's list with "FASTER BUILDS"
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547. # [05:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5387d9c92201 - Luke Wagner - Bug 929236 - Cache asm.js compiled code in Gecko (r=janv)
548. # [05:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e3d89ed5dc7 - Luke Wagner - Bug 929236 - Don't waste time caching small asm.js modules (r=sstangl)
549. # [05:54] <glandium> njn: "ＦＡＳＴＥＲ ＢＵＩＬＤＳ"
550. # [05:55] <@njn> glandium: that'll do :)
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555. # [05:59] <romaxa> glandium: https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Platform%2FPorting_to_unified_sources&diff=775214&oldid=774974
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557. # [06:00] <philor> rnewman: not to worry, since I had to start with 40-odd things on inbound, and now 23 on central, you still have plenty of time to hide your shame before I get to fx-team
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566. # [06:04] <philor> oh, disabling sessionstore/test/browser_522545.js?
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570. # [06:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7bb16ffed49 - Camilo Viecco - Bug 927016 - Create EV testsuite in xpcshell. r=keeler
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576. # [06:14] <shu> glandium: wow such width
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578. # [06:17] <jdm> very unicode
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580. # [06:18] <glandium> jdm: full-width latin
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610. # [06:41] <@njn> │ │ ├──2.35 MB (00.80%) ++ string(length=16, copies=30832, "tbpl.mozilla.org")
611. # [06:41] <@njn> interesting
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618. # [06:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f90c68af9d88 - Andreas Gal - Bug 942688 - Part1: Draw title bar decoration with CG directly (r=mstange).
619. # [06:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e5eab057928 - Andreas Gal - Bug 942688 - Part2: Draw corner mask with Azure (r=mstange).
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642. # [07:08] <jdm> what's the most recent estimate for LOC in firefox?
643. # [07:08] <glandium> jdm: 42
644. # [07:08] <glandium> :)
645. # [07:08] <jdm> I assumed you were using millions as your units
646. # [07:09] <jdm> and my face went o.O
647. # [07:09] <jdm> looks like ~10m is commonly reported
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663. # [07:22] <jesup> jdm: seems a little low; I'd guess closer to 15m
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665. # [07:23] <jdm> jesup: ohloh says 13m with comments
666. # [07:23] <jdm> 10m without
667. # [07:23] <jesup> I was counting comments :-)
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669. # [07:25] <heftig> jdm: http://sprunge.us/bSdA
670. # [07:25] <jdm> quick, who wants to provide feedback on a talk abstract?
671. # [07:25] <jdm> This tutorial will provide a practical introduction to contributing code to Firefox. Learn how to find tasks to work on, teams to join, and tricks for navigating its 10 million lines of C++/JavaScript. Finally, we'll walk through some practical worked examples, such as adding a new DOM API for websites to use.
672. # [07:25] <heftig> current aurora branch
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678. # [07:27] <shu> jdm: sounds weird to have "Finally,"
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681. # [07:28] <heftig> jesup: cloc says 8m
682. # [07:28] <heftig> well, closer to 9m
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684. # [07:29] <jesup> heftig: including .h and .cc and .c and .s, etc?
685. # [07:29] <heftig> yes
686. # [07:29] <heftig> jesup: look at the link i posted
687. # [07:33] <jdm> shu: s/Finally, // ?
688. # [07:33] <jdm> er, not quite
689. # [07:33] <jdm> We'll also walk...
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700. # [07:43] <shu> jdm: yeah, also works
701. # [07:45] <shu> or rather, "also" works
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704. # [07:47] <danieru> no I think "also" may weaken it
705. # [07:47] <danieru> on fourth reading I disagree with myself
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713. # [07:56] <jdm> heh
714. # [07:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey guys
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718. # [08:02] <shu> jdm: personally i would sell the "complete package" aspect more -- you're not doing a tutorial on the codebase, but also how to break into the culture of being a mozilla contributor, which is of course daunting for any large open source project
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724. # [08:09] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jorendorff_away: ping
725. # [08:10] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> oh i see
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729. # [08:11] <hsivonen> TimAbraldes: no specific time frame. but that sort of thing tends to stay unfixed forever if it isn't fixed within a couple of release cycles
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743. # [08:21] <Ms2ger> Morning
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761. # [08:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0eccdc854d5 - Markus Stange - Bug 920123 - Make Start/Stop FrameTimeRecording work with OMTC and remove paint time recording. r=mattwoodrow
762. # [08:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/93d937df1409 - Markus Stange - Bug 943041 - Don't delay compositing on the compositor thread in ASAP mode (layout.frame_rate == 0). r=BenWa
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772. # [08:41] <glazou> bonjour
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774. # [08:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1657a617d1e6 - Victor Porof - Bug 898199 - Reenable browser_dbg_event-listeners.js, in light of bug 941787 potentially fixing these sorts of problems, r=me
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799. # [08:55] <timdream> masayuki: ping
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806. # [08:57] <timdream> masayuki: i wonder if you have any insights key event sequences and timing? We reached a dead end on this strange bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=942790
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808. # [08:57] <timdream> masayuki: sorry, should be https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=918863
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829. # [09:11] <Fallen> John-Galt: be sure to use provider v4 for daily, v3 had a serious issue :)
830. # [09:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3755a94f871e - Mike Hommey - Bug 943733 - Finish removing PRE_RELEASE_SUFFIX. r=rstrong
831. # [09:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa7ff2506660 - Mike Hommey - Bug 943743 - Remove NATIVE_THEME_SUPPORT. r=karlt
832. # [09:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e044bc75f8a8 - Mike Hommey - Bug 943197 - Remove useless -DIMPL_LIBXUL. r=mshal
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839. # [09:16] <Ms2ger> Night, philor
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858. # [09:34] <NeilAway> Unfocused: http://www.flixist.com/ul/212249-imax-35mm-the-dark-knight-rises-and-you/Old-CRT-TVs-and-monitors-in-a-trash-heap-where-they-belong-620x.jpg
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860. # [09:34] <NeilAway> Unfocused: (CRT HEAP CORRUPTION)
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892. # [10:05] <@smaug> uh, I hate warnings-as-errors
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896. # [10:08] <Ms2ger> gsvelto, definitely do mark fixed bugs as dupe/wfm
897. # [10:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8e1efc26dd88 - Olli Pettay - Bug 942432 - Remove nsIJSEventListener::mContext, r=bz
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903. # [10:14] <gsvelto> gsvelto: OK, thanks!
904. # [10:14] <gsvelto> Ms2ger: OK, thanks!
905. # [10:14] <Ms2ger> Heh
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908. # [10:18] <gsvelto> I always copy-past the wrong name when answering :-p
909. # [10:18] <gsvelto> *copy-paste
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913. # [10:19] <NeilAway> smaug: I think I've found a regression in event handling with XBL :-(
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920. # [10:21] <@smaug> NeilAway: hmm, has anything changed there recently
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922. # [10:21] <NeilAway> smaug: in particular, when an element's insertion point changes, events still get dispatched to the old insertion point :s
923. # [10:21] <NeilAway> smaug: seems to have broken between 24 & 25
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927. # [10:22] <@smaug> NeilAway: that sounds like a XBL regression
928. # [10:22] <@smaug> event dispatch just uses the data it gets from binding manager
929. # [10:22] <@smaug> but rather bad regression
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936. # [10:25] <NeilAway> smaug: do you know which function that is?
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940. # [10:27] <@smaug> NeilAway: nsIContent::PreHandleEvent creates the event target chain
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942. # [10:27] <@smaug> the element part
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949. # [10:29] <NeilAway> smaug: hmm, GetXBLInsertionParent just checks mXBLInsertionParent
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958. # [10:35] <NeilAway> smaug: ah yeah, I see the bug
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962. # [10:38] <NeilAway> smaug: yeah, looks like mrbkap overlooked something in bug 653881
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972. # [10:48] <Optimize1> i have shumway.disabled as false, but still youtube videos are not played using shumway
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979. # [10:53] <NeilAway> Optimize1: aren't they specifically excluded?
980. # [10:53] <Optimize1> i dont know
981. # [10:53] <Optimize1> i want to stop using flash
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983. # [10:53] <Optimize1> but this stops me from stopping
984. # [10:53] <NeilAway> Optimize1: can't you use html5 video instead?
985. # [10:53] <Optimize1> not really
986. # [10:55] <Optimize1> youtube does not support html5 on all videos
987. # [10:55] <Optimize1> and it has many bugs
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989. # [10:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/699c169f9eb8 - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 4 gaia-central revision(s) a=gaia-bump
990. # [10:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/aeaac4c8fbed - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge b2g-inbound to mozilla-central
991. # [10:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/aafd97c9967c - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia-central revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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1004. # [11:10] <Unfocused> NeilAway: heh
1005. # [11:11] <Unfocused> and to anwser your question from the other day: yes
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1024. # [11:33] <Ms2ger> glazou, J-16? Miss.
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1026. # [11:33] <glazou> private joke
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1031. # [11:36] <NeilAway> Unfocused: hey, even I only go hours back in scrollback, not days :-P
1032. # [11:36] <Ms2ger> Woop woop, a thunderbird crash
1033. # [11:37] <Ms2ger> Is there some way to get at about:crashes already?
1034. # [11:38] <Unfocused> NeilAway: heh :) yes to knowing the last name of the only member of ZZ Top without a beard
1035. # [11:38] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: iirc they have help - support (to get to about:support) then you can link to about:crashes from there?
1036. # [11:41] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, you're correct, thanks!
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1043. # [11:43] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: np
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1055. # [11:50] <ferjm> is there any way (example) to override exported objects from a module within an xpcshell test?
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1060. # [11:52] <ferjm> s/exported objects/exported symbols
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1078. # [12:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3fddbaf657ce - Jonathan Kew - bug 943319 - use our standard ArrayLength() instead of a custom macro. r=jdaggett
1079. # [12:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/068411d02b1b - Jonathan Kew - bug 943270 - use EncodingUtils::DecoderForEncoding instead of nsICharsetConverterManager::GetUnicodeDecoderRaw when decoding font names. r=jdaggett
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1197. # [13:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f8abdba302f - Jan de Mooij - Bug 926837 - Add missing OOM checks for debug-only regalloc checker. r=bhackett
1198. # [13:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d85ff23b7d1b - Jan de Mooij - Bug 942376 - Make shell quit() and terminate() functions print to stderr in JS_MORE_DETERMINISTIC builds. r=bhackett
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1200. # [14:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/32aa215becb4 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 939585 - Build gfx/thebes in unified mode; r=BenWa
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1271. # [14:11] <yzen> Yoric: ping
1272. # [14:11] <Yoric> yzen: pong
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1274. # [14:12] <yzen> Yoric: so i ve spent some more time finding sqlite3 on win and i could only manage to find it linked in nss3.dll
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1276. # [14:12] <Yoric> nss3.dll?
1277. # [14:12] <Yoric> That certainly sounds weird.
1278. # [14:12] <Yoric> Maybe someone on #build has further info.
1279. # [14:13] <yzen> Yoric: yes :(, and agaik it is internal to that module and not taken from db or native
1280. # [14:13] <yzen> afaik
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1282. # [14:13] <yzen> even then it would not have release memory function that we've seen an issue with earlier on another platform i think
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1285. # [14:14] <yzen> Yoric: is there anyone specific i should ask in #build ?
1286. # [14:14] <Yoric> glandium knows everything :)
1287. # [14:14] <Yoric> I just don't know whether he's awake at this time.
1288. # [14:14] <yzen> hah alright ill try to ping him thoughout the day :)
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1290. # [14:15] <clb> hmm, is mozilla crash reports page down?
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1292. # [14:16] <clb> I'm debugging an android page, which hard-crashes the browser reproducibly, but I can't get to the mozilla crash reports page from about:crashes to see the crash log
1293. # [14:16] <clb> it just waits in the "Please wait.." dialog
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1297. # [14:18] <clb> can someone check this link? https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/b30c48d5-0200-4252-abc6-cde1c2131127
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1361. # [14:38] <Yoric> [207, 21, 22].sort() => [207, 21, 22]
1362. # [14:38] * Yoric realizes that he probably doesn't understand the semantics of Array.prototype.sort.
1363. # [14:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30fe34b9ebf7 - Jacek Caban - Bug 928351 - Char16.h and xpcom/strings/public parts r=ehsan,Waldo
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1375. # [14:43] <Gijs> Yoric: those are probably not all numbers...
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1377. # [14:43] <Gijs> either that or sort prescribes they have to be converted to strings
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1380. # [14:43] <Yoric> Gijs: Thanks, I forgot to add the serialization part.
1381. # [14:44] <Gijs> " The default sort order is lexicographic (not numeric)."
1382. # [14:44] <Gijs> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Array/sort
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1384. # [14:44] <Gijs> Yoric: so you get to add your own comparison function if you want numeric sort
1385. # [14:44] <Yoric> Gijs: Yes, I did that, but that's an interesting gotcha.
1386. # [14:45] <Gijs> yup
1387. # [14:45] <Gijs> welcome to JS :(
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1391. # [14:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dcdf76f06a1f - Ed Morley - Bug 943474 - Don't print the overall summary for shutdown leak detector failures; r=ttaubert
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1402. # [14:56] <yzen> Yoric: ping
1403. # [14:57] <yzen> Yoric: so nss3 it is or mozsqlite3 in case of MOZ_FOLD_LIBS
1404. # [14:57] <Yoric> I see that.
1405. # [14:57] <Yoric> :/
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1412. # [15:03] <till> bsmedberg++ for the governance post
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1415. # [15:05] <bkelly> whats the best way to print to the error console from C++ code?
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1417. # [15:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> till: yeah indeed ++
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1420. # [15:08] <bkelly> nm, I found the mdn page
1421. # [15:08] <Yoric> !seen giorgos
1422. # [15:08] <firebot> giorgos was last seen 22 hours, 38 minutes and 57 seconds ago, saying 'ok!' in #snippets.
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1441. # [15:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc85ab7ac74a - Chris Lord - Bug 907743 - Align display port to tile boundaries when tiles are enabled. r=botond,kats
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1444. # [15:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/377b7167a073 - Chris Lord - Bug 943348 - Make sure displayport is set on before-first-paint in TabChild. r=botond
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1448. # [15:29] <gregglind> is there an easy way to see the diff between the German localized source (in particular, profile settings) and the en-US release?
1449. # [15:29] <gregglind> (for Fx desktop)
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1467. # [15:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gregglind: maybe #l10n can help
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1470. # [15:41] <gregglind> Maybe, thanks Tomcat! I downloaded the DE build, and found my problem!
1471. # [15:42] <gregglind> locale there is 'de' not 'de-DE'
1472. # [15:42] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok cool
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1474. # [15:42] <gregglind> ls
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1522. # [16:13] <@bsmedberg> NeilAway: Enn: is it possible to change crop="end" to crop="middle" using CSS or only in the DOM?
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1537. # [16:22] <NeilAway> bsmedberg: there's no CSS corresponding to crop
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1540. # [16:23] <glazou> that's not entirely true
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1542. # [16:23] <glazou> there is text-overflow: ellipsis
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1544. # [16:23] <@bsmedberg> ok second question
1545. # [16:23] <glazou> that's for crop end
1546. # [16:24] <@bsmedberg> if I want to get elements including anonymous bound elements based on a selector is that possible?
1547. # [16:24] <glazou> ah the question was for XUL elements I suppose
1548. # [16:24] <@bsmedberg> e.g. tab .tab-close-button
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1550. # [16:24] <@bsmedberg> yeah, xul:label
1551. # [16:25] <glazou> re second question yes that's possible, I do that all the time
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1553. # [16:25] <firebot> Check-in:
1554. # [16:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5efbd83b16b - Benoit Jacob - Bug 933082 - Part 4: let ClientLayerManager hold a ShadowLayerForwarder instead of inheriting from ShadowLayerForwarder. Make ISurfaceAllocator refcounted. Make
1555. # [16:26] <glazou> in fact firefox's ui does it all the time, bsmedberg
1556. # [16:26] <firebot> SharedSurface_Gralloc keep its mAllocator alive - r=nical
1557. # [16:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1cf4d557bf94 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 933082 - Part 1: make LayerTransactionChild reference-counted - r=nical
1558. # [16:26] <@bsmedberg> glazou: got a link to the API?
1559. # [16:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/958fa3ca2b59 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 933082 - Part 3: let ShadowLayerForwarder hold a strong ref to its LayerTransactionChild - r=nical
1560. # [16:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/849931c5c32e - Benoit Jacob - Bug 933082 - Part 2: propagate the mIPCOpen flag, avoid crashing in DestroySharedSurface on a dead channel - r=nical
1561. # [16:26] <glazou> wait, get elements as in querySelectorAll ??
1562. # [16:27] <@bsmedberg> glazou: anonymous XBL children
1563. # [16:27] <glazou> I understood that part
1564. # [16:27] <glazou> but when you say "get elements" that's in a stylesheet or from code ?
1565. # [16:27] <@bsmedberg> in JS
1566. # [16:27] <glazou> aaaah
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1568. # [16:28] <@bsmedberg> I want to set crop="middle" on all the ".tabbrowser-tab .tab-label" elements
1569. # [16:28] <@bsmedberg> since we already agreed that CSS couldn't do it ;-)
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1571. # [16:29] <glazou> then no you have to use Document.getAnonymousNodes()
1572. # [16:29] <KaiRo> bah, bjacob left and I just wanted to ping him
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1575. # [16:31] <sheppy> Anyone know of a good way to parse an XML document and pull out just the records that have children?
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1577. # [16:31] <glazou> bsmedberg, or document.getAnonymousElementByAttribute()
1578. # [16:31] <sheppy> I need to quickly build a list of every page on MDN that has child pages.
1579. # [16:31] <glazou> that will allow to select a class
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1581. # [16:32] <@bsmedberg> sheppy: DOM.children.length?
1582. # [16:32] <jgraham> sheppy: I'm not sure that "good way" and "XML" go together. But it should be rather easy with python + lxml
1583. # [16:32] <jgraham> Or possible using XPath
1584. # [16:32] <sheppy> bsmedberg: lol
1585. # [16:32] * sheppy goes looking for XML tools.
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1588. # [16:33] <@bsmedberg> that's the sort of thing I do in the browser console, usually
1589. # [16:33] <glazou> sheppy, explain "the records that have children" ?
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1591. # [16:33] <sheppy> glazou: OK, I have an XML document which is the sitemap of all the pages on MDN.
1592. # [16:33] <sheppy> glazou: I need to construct a list of every page that has subpages.
1593. # [16:33] <sheppy> The XML is here: https://developer.mozilla.org/sitemaps/en-US/sitemap.xml
1594. # [16:34] <glazou> looking
1595. # [16:34] <sheppy> One of my current tasks is to go through every landing page on the site (that is, every page that has subpages) and update them to use our new look&feel and layout.
1596. # [16:34] <glazou> er
1597. # [16:34] <glazou> can you give me an example of a page with subpages in that gigantic xml file ?
1598. # [16:34] <sheppy> Sure
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1601. # [16:35] <sheppy> glazou: look for https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API
1602. # [16:35] <sheppy> That page has lots of child pages.
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1606. # [16:36] <sheppy> Although I just now realized they don’t seem to be done as child nodes in the XML.
1607. # [16:36] <sheppy> That’s obnoxious.
1608. # [16:36] <jgraham> Right
1609. # [16:36] <jgraham> The XML seems to be flat
1610. # [16:36] <glazou> yes
1611. # [16:36] <jgraham> So it's just going to be lots of string matching
1612. # [16:36] <sheppy> So I guess I need to pull out all the URLs, sort them, and then I can get the subpages.
1613. # [16:36] <glazou> totally flat, no IDREF nothing
1614. # [16:36] <glazou> yes
1615. # [16:36] <sheppy> Good times. Man.
1616. # [16:37] <glazou> well you can do better
1617. # [16:37] <glazou> 1. find url > loc elements
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1619. # [16:37] <glazou> 2. extract the textContent
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1621. # [16:38] <@smaug> hmm, we added pid before all the warnings too
1622. # [16:38] <glazou> 3. for each loc element, use XPath to look for other url > loc containing a text node starting with the textContent above
1623. # [16:38] <glazou> and that will give you your list of pages having children
1624. # [16:39] <sheppy> Yep
1625. # [16:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00919e44b581 - Max Li - Bug 933808 - Add tests for AccessFu TraversalRules. r=marcoz
1626. # [16:39] <glazou> of course, just sorting the textContent of url > loc will do the trick too
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1628. # [16:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48e320f58f71 - Olli Pettay - Bug 943613 - Notify JS implemented Event Target when an event listener is added / removed, r=bz
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1633. # [16:43] <@bsmedberg> sheppy: I have the results in a variable, trying to figure out how to get them to you ;-)
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1638. # [16:44] <sheppy> bsmedberg - wow, your xml-fu is impressive.
1639. # [16:46] <@bsmedberg> sheppy: got a bug you want me to attach this to or something?
1640. # [16:46] <sheppy> bsmedberg: nope, just email will do
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1642. # [16:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c4883720cfb3 - Joshua Cranmer - Bug 884676 - Convert JSPrincipals::refcount to Atomic<int32_t> in JS_THREADSAFE builds, and remove JS_ATOMIC_*. r=Waldo
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1647. # [16:48] <@bsmedberg> sheppy: ok in your inbox
1648. # [16:48] <sheppy> bsmedberg: you, sir, are the man.
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1661. # [16:56] <sheppy> bsmedberg: are you sure this is the pages that have children? I ask because the first one I tried here doesn’t seem to have any...
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1664. # [16:56] <@bsmedberg> sheppy: oh sorry, this is the children pages
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1666. # [16:57] <sheppy> bsmedberg - ah, I need the opposite list :)
1667. # [16:57] * sheppy looks at the commands you used
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1669. # [16:57] <@bsmedberg> sheppy: you probably just want to push "last" instead of "url"
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1672. # [16:57] <@bsmedberg> maybe need to deal with duplication
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1674. # [16:57] <sheppy> bsmedberg - ok, let me try that
1675. # [16:57] <blassey> does anyone in here live in Canada and have an iPhone?
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1704. # [17:06] <sheppy> bsmedberg: seems odd that I’m getting the same number of results pushing “last”.
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1706. # [17:07] <@bsmedberg> that is odd... oh wait
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1708. # [17:07] <sheppy> bsmedberg: also, how did you save the json?
1709. # [17:07] <@bsmedberg> sheppy: do you want subpages that have children also?
1710. # [17:07] <sheppy> Ah, yes.
1711. # [17:07] <sheppy> Any page that has at least one child.
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1714. # [17:09] <@bsmedberg> sheppy: I think my loop has flaws, then
1715. # [17:09] <@bsmedberg> but it's the basic idea you want still
1716. # [17:09] <sheppy> bsmedberg: Yep, I’ll figure it out.
1717. # [17:09] <@bsmedberg> might need to .split('/') to get it right
1718. # [17:09] <@bsmedberg> or something
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1731. # [17:13] <@smaug> it is possible that there are some test failures soon, and I'm about to land the fix
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1734. # [17:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/200590163c1f - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 943418. Check for active documents, not current inners, in History APIs. r=bholley
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1738. # [17:14] <KaiRo> bjacob: I hope you saw my note in the bug of crash-stats data currently not being available in search due to reindexing
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1743. # [17:15] <botond> ehsan: ping
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1745. # [17:15] <@ehsan> botond: hi
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1747. # [17:15] <botond> ehsan: are you familiar with the meta-viewport tag?
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1750. # [17:16] <@ehsan> botond: a bit
1751. # [17:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/63a7d0d3dd83 - Joel Maher - Bug 943899 - update talos.json to latest talos bits. r=avih
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1753. # [17:18] <botond> ehsan: suppose a page sets a meta-viewport tag with width=device-width and height=device-height, but the actual page width is wider than the viewport width. do you know what is the expected behaviour in such a case? should the viewport height be increased correspondingly, or not?
1754. # [17:18] <@ehsan> botond: I'm not _that_ familiar with it :)
1755. # [17:19] <@ehsan> botond: try asking on #mobile?
1756. # [17:19] <botond> ehsan: ok, thanks
1757. # [17:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d7d09bda021 - Olli Pettay - Additional fix for Bug 943613, r=bz
1758. # [17:19] <bjacob> KaiRo: ah! no, i hadn't seen!
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1760. # [17:19] <bjacob> KaiRo: just saw it now
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1762. # [17:20] <bjacob> ok, will retry tonight
1763. # [17:20] <KaiRo> bjacob: ok, so there should be data up in a few hours - sorry for the inconveniences
1764. # [17:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/883577706b74 - Tom Schuster - Bug 940642 - IonMonkey: Incorrect result for multiplication when also calling imul. r=h4writer
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1766. # [17:21] <bjacob> KaiRo: no problem. Maybe it would be best to put that message on crash-stats search page ;-)
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1768. # [17:21] <KaiRo> bjacob: laura just filed a bug for something like that :)
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1771. # [17:22] <KaiRo> bjacob: bug 943922 if you're interested
1772. # [17:23] <@smaug> who closed the tree?
1773. # [17:23] <@smaug> and why
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1776. # [17:23] <edmorley|sheriffduty> smaug: did you read the message shown perhaps? :P
1777. # [17:23] <bjacob> KaiRo: thanks
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1779. # [17:24] <@smaug> edmorley|sheriffduty: did you read the comment in the mochitest-4
1780. # [17:24] <edmorley|sheriffduty> smaug: it's shown by the hook, in TBPL and also on treestatus
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1782. # [17:24] <edmorley|sheriffduty> smaug: I closed first and then was going to investigate
1783. # [17:24] <edmorley|sheriffduty> smaug: next time can you give a heads up to whomever is sheriffing please? :-)
1784. # [17:25] <WeirdAl> two years I've had a broken blog :p
1785. # [17:25] <@smaug> edmorley|sheriffduty: I said here that there will be failures ;)
1786. # [17:25] <@smaug> 18:16] smaug it is possible that there are some test failures soon, and I'm about to land the fix
1787. # [17:25] <edmorley|sheriffduty> smaug: I hadn't had had a chance to read the scrollback, the tree had only been closed 90s
1788. # [17:25] <@smaug> but yeah, I should have pinged the sheriff
1789. # [17:26] <@smaug> edmorley|sheriffduty: is it possible to see somewhere who closed the tree?
1790. # [17:26] <edmorley|sheriffduty> smaug: I wasn't about to back something out without checking first; it's more that it ends up being less of a clusterfuck if the tree is closed for the 5-10mins that someone is double checking :-)
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1792. # [17:26] <edmorley|sheriffduty> smaug: yeah treeestatus.m.o (link under tree info menu on TBPL)
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1796. # [17:27] <edmorley|sheriffduty> smaug: thank you for landing the fix :-)
1797. # [17:28] <@smaug> ahaa
1798. # [17:28] <@smaug> never seen https://treestatus.mozilla.org/ before
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1803. # [17:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d666051d1d7 - Camilo Viecco - Bug 917380 - Part 1 - Add filters for EV root list. r=briansmith
1804. # [17:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5af82266fa35 - Camilo Viecco - Bug 917380 - part2 - test ensure disabled ev root certs remain untrusted. r=briansmith
1805. # [17:32] <gaston> smaug: then you havent experienced enough tree closures :P
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1808. # [17:32] <@smaug> gaston: I haven't
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1810. # [17:33] <@smaug> but I've been told this m-i is the place to land random stuff, and not need to look at it later :)
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1853. # [17:47] <ehoogeveen> Huh, does anyone know what happened to the summary of bug 812695? I don't have security access, but it seems odd
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1857. # [17:47] <ehoogeveen> s/but/and/
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1864. # [17:51] <avih> gps: glandium: just wanted to give a thumb up for ./mach build ABC which works really well, and together with unified builds and other work, it really really made a difference in build times - both clobber and incremental. thanks for the work :)
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1867. # [17:52] <ehoogeveen> (bug 812695 doesn't require security access, but its summary was changed to something that doesn't seem correct and refers to a bug that does)
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1914. # [18:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8fbc23103cbc - Wes Johnston - Bug 942914 - Remove initializer from .h file. r=rbarker
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1918. # [18:17] <nemo> hrm. sometime recently Nightly on my Windows XP laptop is totally black on unlocking the screen
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1920. # [18:17] <nemo> as things are done to the window painting eats away at the black, but it is disconcerting
1921. # [18:17] <nemo> is like Nightly is expecting windows to hang on to some texture that it discarded or something
1922. # [18:18] * Ms2ger remembers a claim that windows throws out a lot of gfx stuff when you lock the screen
1923. # [18:18] <NeilAway> bsmedberg: actually you can set attributes with css and xbl, and that works in anonymous content too
1924. # [18:19] <nemo> well. this is new tho...
1925. # [18:19] <ehoogeveen> nemo: bug 900248 perhaps? That landed 5 days ago
1926. # [18:19] <nemo> very reproducible. hit ctrl-alt-del, then esc. black firefox
1927. # [18:19] <nemo> except for my animated site icon on one tab
1928. # [18:20] <nemo> ehoogeveen: hrm. no idea. is there a particular build I should try to check?
1929. # [18:20] <nemo> like, for before/after
1930. # [18:20] <nemo> I guess the nightlies for starters
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1933. # [18:21] <ehoogeveen> Yeah, trying to see if it landed in 2013-11-22 nightly or 2013-11-23
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1935. # [18:21] <ehoogeveen> nemo: Looks like it landed in the 2013-11-23 Nightly
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1937. # [18:22] <nemo> ehoogeveen: ok. sooo. if http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2013-11-22-03-02-02-mozilla-central/ is fine
1938. # [18:22] <nemo> but next day isn't
1939. # [18:22] <nemo> your theory is correctishmaybe
1940. # [18:22] <ehoogeveen> yeah :P
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1972. # [18:42] <mshal> bz: did you end up filing a bug for the 'make Parser.i' issue?
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1974. # [18:44] <bent> hm, who knows about mozmake.exe?
1975. # [18:44] <@bz> mshal: not yet
1976. # [18:44] <@bz> mshal: feel free!
1977. # [18:44] <mshal> bz: ok, will do
1978. # [18:44] <@bz> Thank you
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1998. # [18:52] <NeilAway> bent: glandium mostly
1999. # [18:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/774ca6ed0745 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 934799 - Part 1: Lazify delazifying lazy scripts in debug mode. (r=jimb)
2000. # [18:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9710fcac8fc0 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 939015 - Fix incorrect error propagation in {get,lookup}ChildProperty. (r=bhackett)
2001. # [18:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/862e92d55d50 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 934799 - Part 2: Disable lazy parsing for JSD. (r=sfink)
2002. # [18:53] <nemo> ehoogeveen: heh. I'm trying to test your theory
2003. # [18:53] <nemo> ehoogeveen: 22nd was fine.
2004. # [18:53] <nemo> ehoogeveen: I try 23rd. lock screen, cancel, and am greeted by FF crash dialog
2005. # [18:54] <nemo> wheeee
2006. # [18:54] <nemo> ehoogeveen: but. yes. on restart. 22nd is fine, 23rd is broken
2007. # [18:54] <nemo> soo, presumably busted by bug #900248
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2009. # [18:55] <nemo> I was only recently annoyed enough by this to complain, but that's about how long it has been happening
2010. # [18:55] <nemo> ehoogeveen: there's a bug #941886 followup - think it might fix this?
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2026. # [19:02] <nemo> hm. crash stats is taking a really long time. been waiting for this report for ten minutes now
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2032. # [19:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50dcaa9d8d1a - Bobby Holley - Bug 911303 - Remove manual Destroy() routine from CycleCollectedJSRuntime. r=billm
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2042. # [19:12] <nemo> huh "could not be located"
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2044. # [19:13] <nemo> guess it gave up
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2048. # [19:13] <hub> inbound crashes on startup
2049. # [19:15] <hub> thanks if Javascript
2050. # [19:15] <hub> s/if/to/
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2054. # [19:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb6205ce5289 - Steve Workman - Bug 938803 - Cancel DNS refresh requested in nsHttpChannel::mCaps r=mcmanus
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2057. # [19:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd984f4c205f - Steve Workman - Bug 938803 - Cancel DNS refresh requested in classes implementing nsAHttpTransaction r=mcmanus
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2061. # [19:18] <hub> is there a mercurial command that does what "git reflog" does?
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2069. # [19:20] <hub> *sigh*
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2071. # [19:21] <hub> and it doesn't always crash the same but crash easily.
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2073. # [19:22] <ehoogeveen> nemo: regarding bug 941886 - it might, there was something in the changeset that landed about textures
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2076. # [19:23] <ehoogeveen> nemo: If so, it should be in today's Nightly and the respin from yesterday
2077. # [19:23] <bent> glandium, ping
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2079. # [19:24] <jgraham> hub: Depending on what you want out of git reflog, the answer seem to be no. Unless things changed recently
2080. # [19:24] <hub> jgraham: I want to know what revision was I on recently
2081. # [19:24] <hub> jgraham: like before I did my hg pull -u
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2084. # [19:25] <hub> jgraham: anyway, bisecting the tree on a hunch, it will be more useful
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2088. # [19:26] <hub> unified source doesn't help speeding up the build :-/
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2099. # [19:30] <nemo> hub: I figured if that was stored, it would be in .hg, and there seems to be .hg/undo.desc that contains the last revision I was on.
2100. # [19:30] <nemo> hub: seems to be used for reversing various operations. I imagine the rather dangerous rollback might use it after a pull?
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2102. # [19:31] <hub> nemo: too late, I started bisecting anyway
2103. # [19:31] <nemo> hub: sooo hg log -r $(head -n 1 .hg/undo.desc)
2104. # [19:31] <nemo> ah
2105. # [19:31] <nemo> 'k :)
2106. # [19:31] <hub> git reflog give more history
2107. # [19:31] <hub> and that is useful
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2110. # [19:34] <nemo> hub: I guess you could wrap your mercurial command w/ an echo to a log file as a workaround
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2113. # [19:37] <hub> I'd rather wrap it in bacon ;-)
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2117. # [19:39] <nemo> ehoogeveen: naw. still happens in nightlies for 26th and 27th
2118. # [19:40] <nemo> wish nrc was here
2119. # [19:40] <ehoogeveen> nemo: :( I don't really know much about this stuff, just saw the bug come by, so you should file a bug blocking 900248
2120. # [19:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a984dfb41c17 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 944004 - Build profile/ in unified mode; r=glandium
2121. # [19:41] <nemo> ehoogeveen: heh. how about I just toss a comment in the bug and let Bas and nrc sort it out :-p
2122. # [19:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57001ee04289 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 944003 - Build toolkit/components/protobuf in unified mode; r=glandium
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2124. # [19:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31e8e5b876f3 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 943984 - Build toolkit/profile in unified mode; r=glandium
2125. # [19:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5f55e6184b5c - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 944002 - Build toolkit/components/alert in unified mode; r=glandium
2126. # [19:41] <ehoogeveen> nemo: Sure - I suspect they'll want a followup too though ;)
2127. # [19:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f28257a27f8 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 944000 - Build toolkit/components/autocomplete in unified mode; r=glandium
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2136. # [19:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c3094f89879 - Ralph Giles - Bug 941890 - Improve test_interfaces.html documentation. r=smaug
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2138. # [19:46] <@ehsan> froydnj: does this make sense or do you still want me to get another review? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=943719#c9
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2140. # [19:49] <bjacob> nbp: ping about memory pressure stuff
2141. # [19:49] <nbp> bjacob: pong
2142. # [19:49] <nbp> bjacob: which one?
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2144. # [19:50] <bjacob> nbp: NS_GetPendingMemoryPressure()
2145. # [19:50] <bjacob> nbp: can i use it in random gecko code to react quickly to memory pressure? or not a good idea?
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2148. # [19:51] <nbp> bjacob: let me verify.
2149. # [19:51] <bjacob> nbp: my basic concern is it looked like it might be changing the pressure state
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2152. # [19:52] <nbp> bjacob: the idea was that you listen to the memory-pressure event.
2153. # [19:54] <nbp> bjacob: if you cannot split you process in multiple part, I guess you can still observe the state of it, but you should probably not remove it as it is also made to warn the rest of the engine too
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2156. # [19:55] <bjacob> nbp: i'm thinking about implementation of dom apis, so we're executing a bunch of JS code calling into DOM APIs for a long time without returning to the event loop
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2158. # [19:55] <nbp> bjacob: I had a patch which was doing something similar for the JS engine.
2159. # [19:55] <bjacob> nbp: for that, it could be useful to be able to check the flag without changing its value, but i'm not sure if that's currently possible
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2161. # [19:56] <nbp> bjacob: by using the interruption callback when the memory pressure is set.
2162. # [19:56] <bjacob> nbp: interruption callback?
2163. # [19:56] <nbp> bjacob: this is a way to talk to the JS engine while it is running some JS code.
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2166. # [19:57] <bjacob> nbp: you guys sure have nice things
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2169. # [19:57] <nbp> bjacob: you don't want to know how it is implemented :P
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2176. # [19:59] <nbp> bjacob: if you want to consult the state locally I would recommend to just add another function which does not do the exchange on the Atomic value.
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2178. # [20:00] <bjacob> nbp: ok, maybe i'll get around to doing it
2179. # [20:00] <bjacob> nbp: what actually _sets_ that flag?
2180. # [20:01] <bjacob> oh, only the 'dispatch' methods
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2182. # [20:01] <nbp> bjacob: this is in gonk/widget.
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2184. # [20:01] <nbp> bjacob: widget/gonk/GonkMemoryPressureMonitoring.cpp
2185. # [20:01] <bjacob> so the idea is while my thread is doing long work, another thread hits a low memory event and calls these dispatch methods
2186. # [20:01] <nbp> bjacob: exactly.
2187. # [20:01] <bjacob> nbp: ok, that makes sense
2188. # [20:01] <nbp> bjacob: this is observing a file which is provided by the kernel.
2189. # [20:02] <bjacob> let me file a bug... i can do some things with that in webgl impl
2190. # [20:02] <nbp> bjacob: The file is not always present.
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2195. # [20:02] <nbp> bjacob: the file does not exists on the Unagi and I had to watch the volume button to test the code.
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2197. # [20:03] <bjacob> haha
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2219. # [20:15] <bholley> froydnj, ted: do you guys have any idea what might have regressed lldb mochitests, so that I can back it out for now?
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2235. # [20:22] <@ehsan> mayhemer: you just taught me a new word (consecrate) :)
2236. # [20:23] <mayhemer> ehsan :D
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2238. # [20:23] <@ehsan> thanks for doing that too!
2239. # [20:23] <mayhemer> ehsan: slovnik.cz ;)
2240. # [20:23] <mayhemer> ehsan: it stands for 'wocabulary.cz'
2241. # [20:24] <@ehsan> mayhemer: oh, so it's not an English word?
2242. # [20:24] <mayhemer> ehsan: it is!
2243. # [20:24] <@ehsan> now I'm confused@
2244. # [20:24] <mayhemer> ehsan: it just helped me to find that word :) I didn't know it too :D
2245. # [20:24] <@ehsan> lol I see :)
2246. # [20:24] <@ehsan> mayhemer: I sometimes do the same to find new English words
2247. # [20:25] <mayhemer> ehsan: problem is that I'll soon forget this one new ;)
2248. # [20:25] <@ehsan> mayhemer: not if you keep on using it on every review request from now on ;)
2249. # [20:25] <mayhemer> ehsan: :D:D I'll do! ;)
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2262. # [20:31] <nemo> ugh. this whole "do everything on the right instead of upper left" is completely screwing up years of muscle memory from every app out there ever
2263. # [20:32] <nemo> I wonder if the Australis folks have considered that
2264. # [20:32] <nemo> yes, I know I can fix it, and I have restored the traditional menu in my main profile, but I keep running into this in clean test profiles
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2268. # [20:37] <Waldo> mildly surprised you use the menus, tbh
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2288. # [20:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0583bb4a0b46 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 609296 - Make accessing properties like toString on numbers/booleans fast. r=bhackett
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2298. # [20:50] <NeilAway> mrbkap: I have a workaround for 943804 that I can apply on the front end, is that preferable or should I try for an uplift or two?
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2328. # [21:05] <mrbkap> NeilAway: I'd try for an uplift.
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2330. # [21:06] <mrbkap> NeilAway: that patch should be pretty safe.
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2336. # [21:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a98e26325e28 - Neil Rashbrook - Bug 943804 Always clear insertion points of cleared inserted children r=mrbkap
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2339. # [21:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/253bf04e5c49 - Neil Rashbrook - Bug 936933 XBL should get the command controller directly from the window root r=mrbkap
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2353. # [21:16] <NeilAway> mrbkap: ta
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2356. # [21:17] <mrbkap> NeilAway: no, thank *you*!
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2367. # [21:22] <NeilAway> mrbkap: yeah, I wish it didn't require a release to find the regression :s
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2447. # [22:15] <mbrubeck> BenWa: You know, web developers have been dealing with the 300ms tap delay (bug 944082) in mobile browsers for about 5 or 6 years now. So I'm sad to learn that it's still news to Mozilla devs. :/
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2458. # [22:17] <@smaug> mbrubeck: but pointer events will fix that issue!
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2460. # [22:17] <@smaug> crossing fingers
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2464. # [22:21] <glandium> avih: what about mach build ABC works well?
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2466. # [22:22] <glandium> bent: pong
2467. # [22:22] <avih> glandium: binaries, dirs, nested dirs, including dependencies.
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2469. # [22:22] <glandium> avih: you must be lucky
2470. # [22:23] <avih> glandium: :)
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2472. # [22:23] <BenWa> mbrubeck: gecko is a large beast so people specialize. What is obvious to you is not to others
2473. # [22:23] <avih> glandium: possibly. but i feel it has improved.
2474. # [22:23] <glandium> avih: use mach build binaries
2475. # [22:23] <glandium> (if you only care about c/c++ code)
2476. # [22:23] <avih> glandium: yeah, i mentioned binaries
2477. # [22:24] <BenWa> mbrubeck: and given how little apps actually use double taps and how hard we work to get first renders down into the 15ms range I find loosing 300ms in the input software layer very frustrating
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2483. # [22:27] <Yoric> ttaubert: Just to be sure, are you working on bug 912717 or should we ask smacleod to continue with that bug?
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2489. # [22:27] <smacleod> Yoric: I believe in the meeting we decided ttaubert would finish it up
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2507. # [22:34] <gkw> njn: great job untangling the Valgrind jobs on tbpl :)
2508. # [22:35] <rnewman> jdm: is there anything you need me to grab from gdb for bug 944094?
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2510. # [22:35] <jdm> rnewman: I'm baffled why you would get a segfault there, so I'm having trouble coming up with anything
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2512. # [22:35] <rnewman> repro'd on my phone and dria's
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2514. # [22:35] <jdm> rnewman: maybe print out *this from the InitInternal frame?
2515. # [22:36] <rnewman> ooh, this time I got a corrupt stack
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2517. # [22:36] <rnewman> (I got the previous one twice
2518. # [22:37] <@njn> gkw: \o/
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2521. # [22:38] <gkw> njn: it makes me ponder how many leak suppressions can actually be removed
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2525. # [22:38] <@njn> gkw: yes. Unfortunately, testing if they can be removed is a pain
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2527. # [22:39] <gkw> njn: remove all locally, re-run, then re-add those that come up
2528. # [22:39] <@njn> gkw: though bhearsum made me realize that for a lot of these tests I'm doing I can re-trigger a Nightly, because I don't need a new nightly, just e.g. a new valgrind.sh
2529. # [22:39] <gkw> njn: then repeat for TBPL individual runs
2530. # [22:39] <@njn> gkw: yeah, I can modify .supp files and retrigger myself
2531. # [22:39] <gkw> njn: you need a new nightly because you update the suppression files in the tree, don't you?
2532. # [22:40] <@njn> gkw: crap, yes
2533. # [22:40] <gkw> :)
2534. # [22:40] <@njn> gkw: valgrind.sh changes don't require a new Nightly, but .supp changes do
2535. # [22:40] <gkw> njn: sheriffs were requesting for this feature too, see bug 793989
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2537. # [22:40] <gkw> njn: yep, that's correct
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2540. # [22:41] <@njn> gkw: anyway, I'm going to go away and land some unrelated patches, as a break from this stuff :)
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2543. # [22:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/234a044ca942 - David Burns - Bug 938242: Remove the visibility checks for touch actions in Marionette; r=mdas
2544. # [22:42] <gkw> njn: sure, you could also land suppression changes as you wait
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2546. # [22:42] <@njn> gkw: coop and aki have been good at triggering on my requests, too
2547. # [22:42] <mbrubeck> BenWa: Yeah, I understand. I just feel like we have a large divide between the mobile web world and most of Mozilla.
2548. # [22:43] <gkw> njn: i see. i guess that's if you wouldn't like to bug them anymore for now ;-)
2549. # [22:43] <mbrubeck> BenWa: If this is for mobile web apps, the short-term (and cross-browser) solution is to disable zooming using <meta name="viewport" contentent="user-scalable=no">
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2551. # [22:43] <BenWa> mbrubeck: I spent over 80% of time developing for mobile :P
2552. # [22:44] <mbrubeck> This 300ms delay affects basically every mobile browser since iPhone Safari, including Firefox.
2553. # [22:44] <@njn> philor: do you recognise the OSX 10.6 Opt M1 failure at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=555ac8434e42 ?
2554. # [22:45] <BenWa> mbrubeck: ohh I misunderstood. Right, because the problem graphics is facing don't involve touch latency. That is until we became the owner for APZC
2555. # [22:46] <mbrubeck> yeah
2556. # [22:46] <jld> ted: Is it actually a bug that the NS_RUNTIMEABORT in bug 929129 wasn't creating a minidump? The comment on its definition is unclear.
2557. # [22:46] <mbrubeck> suddenly events are not just for the DOM anymore :)
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2559. # [22:48] <BenWa> mbrubeck: and to be fair before we can polish anything we get reassigned :P
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2562. # [22:49] <mbrubeck> Yes, I'm currently implementing APZC and meta viewport for Metro, and this is about the third time I've had to revisit this code since I first wrote it for Maemo. :P
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2568. # [22:54] <jdm> why does 'localhost:80' in my locationbar take me to www.localhost.com?
2569. # [22:54] <BenWa> mbrubeck: I notice that the APZC prefs and value for metro and ffos (pre APZC) are different
2570. # [22:54] <jdm> how can I stop this?
2571. # [22:54] <BenWa> jdm: You may need to declare 'localhost' as a host in your host table thingy on linux?
2572. # [22:54] <jdm> BenWa: I've been able to visit lots of localhost sites in the past
2573. # [22:54] <BenWa> 127.0.0.1 should be more robust
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2575. # [22:55] <mbrubeck> BenWa: Yeah, in particular we tweaked prefs to paint more frequently, and to make the fling momentum/friction closer to the standard Win8 platform behavior.
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2598. # [23:06] <philor> njn: not specifically, but it doesn't surprise me at all, we have a dumping ground for "Mac timeout in any webgl test" and we have craploads of Mac 330 second timeouts
2599. # [23:06] <sunfish> is the mochitest 3 orange on incoming real?
2600. # [23:07] <philor> NeilAway: you stole our expected assertions!
2601. # [23:08] <mbrubeck> BenWa: I see in bug 940036 that you also want Gaia apps to continue to ignore <meta name=viewport> -- is there a rationale for installed apps to render and behave differently from apps in the browser?
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2603. # [23:09] <@njn> philor: ok, thanks
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2606. # [23:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/499c81cdff30 - Chris Pearce - Bug 944088 - Make MP4Reader::Init() assume mLayersBackendType=LAYERS_NONE if it doesn't have a decoder owner. r=kinetik
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2608. # [23:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/49a6738fa250 - Chris Pearce - Bug 943721 - Make MP4Reader restrict its codecs output to H.264 and AAC. r=kinetk
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2613. # [23:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6dbb8333960c - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 936964 (part 6) - Rename WebGLMemoryReporterWrapper as WebGLMemoryTracker. r=bjacob.
2614. # [23:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd1459e71585 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 936964 (part 1) - Make StartupCache ref-counted. r=aklotz.
2615. # [23:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da6465ad476f - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 936964 (part 5) - Make WebGLMemoryReporterWrapper ref-counted. r=bjacob.
2616. # [23:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a87ffc992f38 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 936964 (part 4) - Make MediaMemoryTracker ref-counted. r=kinetik.
2617. # [23:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/25312eb71998 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 936964 (part 7) - Make lots of classes report their own memory consumption, instead of using a separate reporter class. r=mccr8,sr=bz.
2618. # [23:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85486c4aa3d8 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 936964 (part 8) - Make nsCacheService report the disk and memory cache devices. r=hurley.
2619. # [23:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/34e9c3137804 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 936964 (part 2) - Make SurfaceCache ref-counted. r=seth.
2620. # [23:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e8a701d8bdc - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 943660 - Remove nsIMemoryReporter::name, because it's (a) unused and (b) a bad idea. r=mccr8.
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2622. # [23:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ae3a61182db - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 936964 (part 3) - Make nsCycleCollector ref-counted. r=mccr8.
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2624. # [23:13] <@njn> Chatzilla turns "part 8)" into a smiley with sunglasses
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2626. # [23:15] <BenWa> mbrubeck: ideally no but on the flip side regressing 300ms for touch is sucky
2627. # [23:15] <BenWa> mbrubeck: I don't like that turning on graphics optimize changes the behavior
2628. # [23:15] <BenWa> optimizations*
2629. # [23:16] <BenWa> if we want the touch behavior I'd prefer an explicit decision and patch be made
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2639. # [23:19] <BenWa> mbrubeck: btw shouldn't the viewport stuff be in CSS?
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2641. # [23:19] <sheppy> I'm having some kind of odd problem where when I create new tabs, they don't appear until I quit and restart nightly.
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2643. # [23:20] <sheppy> It'll work fine for a while, then suddenly new tabs stop showing up until I restart.
2644. # [23:20] <mattwoodrow> Anyone know what causes 'Cannot open include file: prtypes.h' on windows?
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2646. # [23:21] <BenWa> mattwoodrow: how's your dist/include dir looking? Sometimes if I cancel a build it blows it up
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2648. # [23:22] <mattwoodrow> BenWa: looks ok? This was my first build on the machine
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2657. # [23:24] <mbrubeck> BenWa: APZC is responsible for a lot more than graphics; its name and location are a bit of a misnomer
2658. # [23:25] <BenWa> mbrubeck: I meant the tag
2659. # [23:25] <mbrubeck> see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=943967
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2662. # [23:26] <mbrubeck> BenWa: Yes, the viewport stuff should probably be in CSS. Currently it's mostly in /content and partly in /dom.
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2665. # [23:27] <mbrubeck> but anyway, thinking of APZC as "graphics optimizations" is incorrect. It's where we implement processing of touch gestures for panning and zooming before handing touch input to content.
2666. # [23:27] <mbrubeck> and turning it on for apps will of course change behavior, because we're going from not supporting these touch gestures to supporting them.
2667. # [23:27] <BenWa> mbrubeck: I mean instead of specifying meta-viewport tag in HTML shouldn't webpage write something like CSS: html { viewport: ... }
2668. # [23:27] <mbrubeck> BenWa: Yes, that's https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747754
2669. # [23:28] <BenWa> cool
2670. # [23:28] <mbrubeck> BenWa: Unfortunately, no major browser implements the CSS syntax for a while, and we'll be stuck for a long time with the <meta> element. Like much of the mobile web, <meta name=viewport> was introduced by Apple without consulting anyone else. :(
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2672. # [23:28] <BenWa> right
2673. # [23:29] <mbrubeck> IE11 supports the CSS syntax, and Opera used to (but I don't think they do in the new Blink versions).
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2677. # [23:29] <BenWa> Just good to see it's underway since these things do take 10 years :D
2678. # [23:30] <mbrubeck> :)
2679. # [23:30] * BenWa is kind of glad phones don't really last 5years +
2680. # [23:30] <BenWa> not yet anyways :)
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2683. # [23:32] <nrc> bsmedberg: ping
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2688. # [23:38] <rnewman> evidence suggests that I have no idea what I'm doing when working with Gecko C++
2689. # [23:38] <rnewman> I mean, seriously, PromiseFlatString, NS_Convert*, five different string types...
2690. # [23:39] * deian|away is now known as deian
2691. # [23:39] <rnewman> I'm like a little lamb wandering around, cargo-culting the hell out of shit
2692. # [23:40] <danieru> rnewman: sounds like you're ready for a senior c++ role!
2693. # [23:40] <rnewman> :D
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2696. # [23:43] <nrc> bsmedberg: here (http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/windows/nsWindow.cpp#6900) we set WS_EX_LAYERED for all transparent windows, but this page (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ff700543%28v=vs.85%29.aspx) says LAYERED is not allowed for child windows (pre Win8), is that a problem?
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2698. # [23:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/10abe767a26b - Michal Novotny - Bug 926069 - CacheFile must not create new entry when key is a hash, r=honzab
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