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  1. # Session Start: Sat Nov 30 00:00:00 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
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  20. # [00:24] <glandium> ehsan: disable unified is likely broken again
  21. # [00:24] <@ehsan> :(
  22. # [00:24] <@ehsan> glandium: file a bug pleae
  23. # [00:24] <glandium> that's starting to be annoying
  24. # [00:25] * @ehsan is not convinced 100% that is a problem worth fixing yet
  25. # [00:25] <glandium> ehsan: esp. i was about to suggest we disable unified on aurora after the merge
  26. # [00:25] <@ehsan> why would we do that?
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  28. # [00:25] <glandium> because we're not sure yet we won't have problems on crash reports and other things
  29. # [00:26] <@ehsan> I see
  30. # [00:26] * @ehsan needs to think more about this
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  32. # [00:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d25c3e8c49b - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 943993 - Build toolkit/components/places in unified mode; r=mak
  33. # [00:26] <glandium> at least, we need this figured before that hits beta
  34. # [00:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f948facb37db - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 943995 - Build toolkit/components/downloads in unified mode; r=mak
  35. # [00:27] <@ehsan> glandium: "this" being?
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  37. # [00:27] <@ehsan> glandium: (please raise your voice on bug 942167, it has gotten zero attention so far)
  38. # [00:27] <glandium> ehsan: iirc we *do* have problems on crash reports. So either we find a solution before beta, or we disable unified builds ; which requires those builds to work
  39. # [00:27] * @ehsan needs to call it a day
  40. # [00:28] <@ehsan> glandium: please file bugs if you know about instances of those problems
  41. # [00:28] <@ehsan> there is a bug filed for clang
  42. # [00:28] <@ehsan> fwiw fixing those builds is easy, detecting the bustage is hard
  43. # [00:28] <glandium> ehsan: that's about the only one i know, but who knows what else is waiting
  44. # [00:29] <@ehsan> right
  45. # [00:29] <glandium> ehsan: also, there's the inlining thing we got on js
  46. # [00:29] <glandium> who know how many other such surprises we'll have
  47. # [00:29] <@ehsan> that's a problem we need to fix on central too :)
  48. # [00:29] * @ehsan expects some
  49. # [00:29] <@ehsan> glandium: sorry, I need to go and pretend that I have a life on a Friday night now ;)
  50. # [00:30] <@ehsan> catch you later?
  51. # [00:30] <glandium> ehsan: ok
  52. # [00:30] <@ehsan> cya
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  96. # [01:13] <@bz> hmm
  97. # [01:15] <ewong|away> bbondy ping
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  99. # [01:16] <bbondy> ewong|away: hi
  100. # [01:16] <ewong> bbondy: hi there! re: bug 617811, is it a bug that 'should' be fixed or is it as designed?
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  102. # [01:17] <ewong> bbondy incidentally I didn't know who to ask so I asked a Toolkit peer.. and your the 1st person that seems to be available on the list
  103. # [01:18] <bbondy> ewong: sorry I don't know the answer, I'd ask directly in the bug and kairo will likely respond back to you
  104. # [01:18] <ewong> bbondy: ok. thanks!
  105. # [01:18] <bbondy> KaiRo^ if you're around
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  113. # [01:26] <@bz> where do I track australis regressions?
  114. # [01:27] <@bz> as in, what do I mark them as blocking?
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  117. # [01:28] <jdm> bz: 939862
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  120. # [01:28] <@bz> jdm: thanks!
  121. # [01:31] <glandium> we've had unified builds for what? 2 weeks?
  122. # [01:31] <glandium> i'm at my 4th bug filed on non-unified builds broken
  123. # [01:32] <glandium> one of them being due to 3 separate bugs
  124. # [01:32] <glandium> but i didn't feel like filing them separately, they were all in gfx
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  126. # [01:32] <jdm> due to missing headers or something?
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  128. # [01:32] <glandium> most are missing headers
  129. # [01:33] <glandium> a few are namespace fun
  130. # [01:33] <glandium> (a .cpp declares using namespace foo, another relies on that)
  131. # [01:33] <glandium> we should ban non scoped using
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  133. # [01:34] <jdm> interesting
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  149. # [01:53] <KaiRo> bbondy, ewong: I think I said in comment #0 that there's a bug
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  153. # [01:54] <KaiRo> model
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  155. # [01:56] <ewong> KaiRo right..
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  166. # [02:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/196c1863a6ec - Cameron McCormack - Bug 944493 - Rename PEPseudoSelTrailing because of a string change. r=flod
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  184. # [02:50] <Mathnerd314> where did the name "unified build" come from? is it in some manual somewhere or did ehsan just invent it?
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  264. # [04:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/253684653c74 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 943874 - Update Git URL printed during mach bootstrap; r=ehsan
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  292. # [05:05] <ewong> ok.. 3 line...
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  377. # [08:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d4c8a4014d61 - Chris Peterson - Bug 940235 - Build uriloader in unified mode. r=ehsan
  378. # [08:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a6f1b8a182ed - Chris Peterson - Bug 944257 - Fix warning by removing unused ContentClientBasic member variable mManager. r=gal
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  646. # [14:57] <ewong> is this try push ok? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=846e14aa0407 I've even starred the oranges/reds.. though I'm not sure if they're right.. my 3 line change couldn't have done that much damage
  647. # [14:58] <Ms2ger> Looks reasonable
  648. # [14:58] <ewong> Ms2ger: thanks!
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  664. # [15:34] <nemo> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6822898 - he's right.
  665. # [15:34] <nemo> stair steps are ugly
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  667. # [15:34] <nemo> tried skia backend, layers accel force enabled, no love
  668. # [15:34] <nemo> (Linux)
  669. # [15:34] <nemo> anyone on OSX? is it less unattractive there?
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  673. # [15:40] <evilpie> well not so much gfx love for linux
  674. # [15:41] <nemo> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6822875
  675. # [15:42] <nemo> evilpie: was wondering if that was the case. but wasn't sure
  676. # [15:42] <nemo> I've had probs w/ stairstepping in transforms in linux, but normally accel solved
  677. # [15:42] <nemo> wondering if this is a general problem now
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  679. # [15:42] <evilpie> these kind of css things always looked horrible on firefox/linux for me
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  682. # [15:49] <nemo> evilpie: have a mac handy?
  683. # [15:49] <nemo> or windows?
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  685. # [15:50] <evilpie> nope
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  696. # [15:58] <nemo> heh. enabling skia against content is causing https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-ab7591cc-2e5f-44fe-8f7d-9abe42131130 tho, regularly
  697. # [15:58] <nemo> sooo since that didn't help the jaggies, it goes off again
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  716. # [16:22] <RealRaven> HOw is it possuible to disable key shortcuts at runtime?
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  718. # [16:22] <RealRaven> I have tried an overlay and setting <key id="xxxx" disabled="true"> and also same from code but it doesn't work
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  720. # [16:23] <RealRaven> did anybody try this before? it must be possible... are these key definitions loaded into some listener that I can wrap?
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  722. # [16:24] <evilpie> did you try removing the key element?
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  724. # [16:25] <evilpie> we did this in e10s to disable backspace https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d4d298a428f
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  726. # [16:25] <RealRaven> evilpie, no I could try that next.
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  729. # [16:26] <RealRaven> evilpie: if I disabled the cmd_ element that would mean the menu item "increase font" would also not work anymore?
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  732. # [16:27] <RealRaven> evilpie: I think the menu item uses the same commands:
  733. # [16:27] <evilpie> true
  734. # [16:27] <evilpie> so maybe try removing the <key> element
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  737. # [16:32] <RealRaven> ok, bet I just tried setAttribute('disabled','true'); this didn't work. Or should I set to true instead of 'true'
  738. # [16:32] <RealRaven> and for removing can I use document.removeELement() it seemed to fail in Venkman
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  742. # [16:35] <Ms2ger> What's document.removeELement()?
  743. # [16:35] <RealRaven> Shit, should be removeChild
  744. # [16:36] <RealRaven> I am a tool today.
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  746. # [16:37] <RealRaven> document.removeChild(keyDecrease); also throws a security error (in venkman). Do I need to use contentDocument?
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  749. # [16:38] <RealRaven> but I can definitely find the key element using let keyDecrease = document.getElementById('decreasefontsizekb'); so it must be the right context?
  750. # [16:38] <Ms2ger> Is keyDecrease a direct child of the document?
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  752. # [16:38] <Ms2ger> Try keyDecrease.delete()
  753. # [16:38] <Ms2ger> Er
  754. # [16:38] <Ms2ger> Try keyDecrease.remove()
  755. # [16:40] <RealRaven> Ms2ger: ok
  756. # [16:42] <RealRaven> I also maybe do it to early, calling it directlty from my overlay. should maybe put it into the load event of the window instead?
  757. # [16:44] <RealRaven> Sorry I tell a lie, I actually do it on the "compose-window-init" event: document.getElementById("msgcomposeWindow").addEventListener("compose-window-init", ZombieKeys.Composer.initListener, false);
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  760. # [16:46] <RealRaven> restarting /././
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  764. # [16:47] <RealRaven> Ms2ger: none of these worked?
  765. # [16:48] <RealRaven> Ms2ger: I will check in DOMi if the keys are still there...
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  768. # [16:51] <RealRaven> Ms2ger: it is still in the keyset (editorKeys). Maybe document.removeChild is not the right thing?
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  770. # [16:51] <Ms2ger> keyDecrease.parentNode.removeChild(keyDecrease)?
  771. # [16:52] <RealRaven> ok, I will try that. looks like document.removeChild actually throws
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  777. # [16:57] <He-Jie> hi all, if I use android sw_sync_fence_create() to create a fence, can I use this fence to sync for "cross process" ?
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  780. # [17:00] <RealRaven> Msg2Ger - looks like it was removed - . bnut there are 2 more anonymous keys that seem to do the same, I think they are my problem. modifiers = accel would mean CTRL key in windows, right?
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  784. # [17:03] <RealRaven> what I really need to do here is enumerate all keys of that keyset and find the one with the offending shortcut then remove it. SHouldn't be too hard now.
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  786. # [17:06] <evilpie> what the hell, I wrote these patches for Xpconenct a while back and I can neither find them nor the bug it was for
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  788. # [17:07] <Ms2ger> You dream about xpconnect? :)
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  790. # [17:08] <evilpie> I hope not
  791. # [17:10] <evilpie> oh it was actually in Security: CAPS
  792. # [17:10] <evilpie> another scary place
  793. # [17:10] <nigelb> Ms2ger: Do you? :)
  794. # [17:11] <Ms2ger> Fortunately not :)
  795. # [17:11] <Ms2ger> How are you, btw?
  796. # [17:11] <nigelb> I just finished a full week working 8-hour days.
  797. # [17:11] <Ms2ger> Hear, hear!
  798. # [17:12] <nigelb> I think it's time to get back to apprentice community sheriff ;)
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  800. # [17:12] <Ms2ger> Welcome back ;)
  801. # [17:13] <Ms2ger> And don't push yourself too hard :)
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  803. # [17:13] <nigelb> Learned that lesson pretty well :)
  804. # [17:13] <Ms2ger> That's a positive outcome then :)
  805. # [17:15] <RealRaven> Ms2ger: looks like that worked now :-) thanks for helping. I just enumerate the whole keyset and look for the accelerator + key combo and then remove it.
  806. # [17:15] <Ms2ger> Np
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  808. # [17:15] <RealRaven> This is handy as I can make it more general now as there a more key shortcuts that my addon uses (Zombiekeys). I probably have to enumerate all keysets that are active in the document
  809. # [17:16] <RealRaven> SO an overall win-win
  810. # [17:17] <Ms2ger> Oh hey, virtualbox just threw NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005) at me
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  818. # [17:24] <gcp> virtualbox uses XPCOM
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  825. # [17:34] <evilpie> lol
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  834. # [17:47] <Ms2ger> gaston, is this accurate? http://qdb.us/303145
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  895. # [18:47] <gaston> Ms2ger: haha, dunno, we use cvs over ssh ;)
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  920. # [19:13] <Ms2ger> Hrm
  921. # [19:13] <Ms2ger> I liked the zebra stripes in my inbox
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  936. # [19:40] <evilpie> Ms2ger: just r+ that boolean patch?
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  938. # [19:41] <Ms2ger> Not a peer, sorry :)
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  976. # [20:21] <NeilAway> zebra stripes?
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  978. # [20:24] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, the list of emails had alternating white / light grey stripes
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  1006. # [21:08] <NeilAway> Ms2ger--
  1007. # [21:09] <NeilAway> in case you read scrollback, I already expected that you were referring to emails in your inbox, but it wasn't clear what happened to the zebera stripes
  1008. # [21:09] <NeilAway> *zebra
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  1081. # [22:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b5a8fd704ad - Mats Palmgren - Bug 943448 - Remove useless warnings about nscoord overflow in clamping functions. r=roc
  1082. # [22:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e4c943ef4a6 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 943448 - Adjust assertion counts accordingly.
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  1112. # [23:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aaed10fb047d - Mike Hommey - Bug 944835 - Fix non-unified build in layout/base after bug 941559. r=roc
  1113. # [23:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24df3fc6014e - Mike Hommey - Bug 944830 - Fix non-unified build in gfx after bug 942492, bug 943293 and bug 944172. r=bjacob
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  1116. # [23:22] <bjacob> glandium: out of 12 min to build here on linux/gcc4.6/64bit, 1 minute is taken by the lib*.desc phase, can this be sped up?
  1117. # [23:22] <glandium> bjacob: yes and no
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  1119. # [23:23] <glandium> bjacob: the lib*.desc stuff is the visible tip of the iceberg, the most time consuming stuff during that phase is actually not printed
  1120. # [23:23] <bjacob> glandium: ah
  1121. # [23:23] <glandium> (rules starting with an @, no output)
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  1123. # [23:23] <bjacob> glandium: any pointer to what is going on there, and why it has to be -j1 ?
  1124. # [23:24] <glandium> it currently has to be -j1 because many of the manual rules are broken and can have dependencies on things built in other directories
  1125. # [23:24] <glandium> .desc stuff is soon going to move out
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  1127. # [23:25] <glandium> another part that takes a lot of is is jar maker, and that's also going to move out
  1128. # [23:25] <glandium> jar maker is tricky, though
  1129. # [23:26] <glandium> gps: we may want to tackle this ^ when we meet
  1130. # [23:26] <bjacob> glandium: cool, thanks for the explanation
  1131. # [23:27] <bjacob> glandium: is there any hope of gains on the configure phase? i bet a lot of our configure checks aren't all that helpful?
  1132. # [23:27] <glandium> i have an evil plan for configure, but it's for much later
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  1134. # [23:28] <glandium> feel free to send patches removing parts you feel aren't useful
  1135. # [23:28] <glandium> before the evil plan, we also want to remove js/src/configure
  1136. # [23:28] <bjacob> glandium: if configure-like checks are actually needed, then, i dont know how they achieve it, but CMake manages to run configure checks a lot faster, and also makes it nicer to edit/maintain them
  1137. # [23:28] <bjacob> ah, removing that would be nice
  1138. # [23:29] <bjacob> ok, i can certainly go on a hunt for useless configure checks
  1139. # [23:29] <bjacob> things like "check that printf exists"
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  1141. # [23:30] <glandium> bjacob: it's even worse than that, not only are we doing stupid checks like that, we're not even using the result
  1142. # [23:30] <bjacob> glandium: oh, i expect as much!
  1143. # [23:30] <bjacob> glandium: IME a lot of configure-like things can be done with some #ifdef once and for all in a header
  1144. # [23:30] <glandium> because that test isn't a failing test. configure doesn't fail when the function is missing. the result is a HAVE_* macro
  1145. # [23:30] <glandium> and we don't use those
  1146. # [23:31] <glandium> likewise for headers
  1147. # [23:31] <bjacob> i see
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  1151. # [23:32] <bjacob> instead of having preprocessor things that i can #ifdef for, i would much much rather have always-defined preprocessor things that are either 0 or 1, so I can use them in real C++ if() statements
  1152. # [23:32] <glandium> waw, we have one place using HAVE_MEMMOVE
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  1154. # [23:33] <glandium> which is forced defined in expat_config.h anyways
  1155. # [23:34] <bjacob> ... in fact, those shouldnt be preprocessor symbols, to avoid bugs where someone accidentally #ifdefs it
  1156. # [23:34] <bjacob> instead how about having a header that defines constants like
  1157. # [23:34] <bjacob> #ifdef XP_WIN
  1158. # [23:34] <bjacob> const bool kIsWindows = true;
  1159. # [23:34] <bjacob> #else
  1160. # [23:34] <bjacob> const bool kIsWindows = false;
  1161. # [23:34] <bjacob> #endif
  1162. # [23:35] <glandium> static const, then
  1163. # [23:35] <bjacob> glandium: why? i meant to put that in a header
  1164. # [23:35] <glandium> the compiler will happily create an actual symbol for it
  1165. # [23:35] <bjacob> glandium: meh, and does static help?
  1166. # [23:36] <bjacob> oh ok i see
  1167. # [23:36] <glandium> there's nothing magic about having a declaration in a header. that doesn't change how it's treated
  1168. # [23:37] <bjacob> yes but i thought: if this thing is defined in multiple TUs, i'd rather not flag it as static which would prevent unifying the multiple definitions. But what I was missing is that with static, there won't be even a symbol generated for it, it'll just use the literal value everywhere, right?
  1169. # [23:37] <glandium> hopefully, yes
  1170. # [23:37] <bjacob> ok, that makes sense
  1171. # [23:37] <bjacob> IMO that would make some code cleaner
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  1173. # [23:42] <Optimizer> do i have tools to know what is leaking in a test ?
  1174. # [23:43] <Optimizer> it says leaked until shutdown. but what ?
  1175. # [23:43] <bjacob> Optimizer: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/Debugging_memory_leaks
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  1177. # [23:44] <bjacob> Optimizer: hm, which now links to https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance:Leak_Tools for uptodate info
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  1179. # [23:44] <Optimizer> yeah.. thanks :)
  1180. # [23:44] <glandium> bjacob: fyi, i'm going through "Checks for library functions" right now
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  1182. # [23:44] <bjacob> glandium: thanks!
  1183. # [23:45] <bjacob> glandium: the reason why you've seen relatively much breakage from gfx recently is we're trying to fix some big kludges there, moving some code around
  1184. # [23:46] <Optimizer> 980$ :O
  1185. # [23:46] <glandium> bjacob: yeah, well, gfx was not the only thing that broke
  1186. # [23:46] <glandium> it was the biggest breakage, though
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