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  1. # Session Start: Wed Dec 04 00:00:00 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
  3. # [00:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/27a9c236606b - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 943204. Fix transparent windows with the basic compositor. r=dvander
  4. # [00:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e52c27213bb7 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 943204. Don't use HWA compositors for transparent windows. r=mattwoodrow
  5. # [00:01] <dholbert> glandium, filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=945978
  6. # [00:01] <dholbert> glandium, I'll give that fix a shot
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  8. # [00:02] <dholbert> glandium, yup, that does it
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  10. # [00:03] <glandium> dholbert: feel free to land it (attached to the bug). my tree is not in the right state to land
  11. # [00:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4eea4558dff5 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 927740 (part 3) - Make workers respond to "child-cc-request" notifications. r=khuey.
  12. # [00:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/03171880d9f4 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 927740 (part 4) - Make workers CC on memory-pressure. r=khuey.
  13. # [00:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24e2453b9e53 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 927740 (part 1) - Fix observation of GC and CC requests by child processes. r=khuey.
  14. # [00:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14a0fe515c9c - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 927740 (part 2) - Make about:memory's "Minimize Memory Usage" button affect child processes, like the "GC" and "CC" buttons. r=khuey.
  15. # [00:04] <dholbert> glandium, will do
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  20. # [00:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa8f820b458f - Mike Hommey - Bug 945978 - Fix typo from changeset 646b46467e86
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  25. # [00:07] <@gavin> jmaher|afk: question for you at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=945767#c4
  26. # [00:07] <damons> dcamp: Dec 09 Hawthorne Theatre w/ Kvelertak Portland, OR
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  29. # [00:08] <dcamp> damons: tell me more
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  31. # [00:08] <dcamp> high on fire?
  32. # [00:08] <@gavin> MattN: ^ do you know the answer?
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  34. # [00:09] <MattN> gavin: talos.json in m-c needs to be updated
  35. # [00:09] <MattN> I can comment
  36. # [00:09] <damons> dcamp: yessir.
  37. # [00:09] <damons> In your back yard.
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  40. # [00:10] <damons> dcamp: dunno anything about Kvelertak tho
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  48. # [00:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e98e65fd7203 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 4cbb184bf6cb (bug 945828) for Linux64 debug xpcshell crashes.
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  51. # [00:15] <MattN> gavin: I'll file a bug with a patch to get it deployed. Hopefully jmaher|afk will be around to r+
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  58. # [00:17] <@njn> how do I add a pref? I want to add a pref that's off by default on desktop, but on by default on B2G. I see browser/app/profile/prefs.js, but it's empty...
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  60. # [00:18] <MattN> njn: see firefox.js in that dir.
  61. # [00:18] <MattN> browser/app/profile/firefox.js
  62. # [00:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e96d70a3f9b - Douglas Crosher - Bug 941905 - Move the HWCAP_ARMv7 flag down to bit 29, r=mjrosenb
  63. # [00:19] <@bz_away> njn: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/modules/libpref/src/init/all.js for the default
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  66. # [00:20] <@bz_away> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/b2g/app/b2g.js for b2g
  67. # [00:20] <@njn> MattN, bz_away: thanks! are prefs initialized and readable by the end of NS_InitXPCOM2()?
  68. # [00:20] * @bz_away has no idea
  69. # [00:20] <MattN> haven't looked at that stuff for a while
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  71. # [00:21] <MattN> they are part of the profile though in case that helps
  72. # [00:21] <philor> on the bright side, there are three or four test failures on 10.9 that I actually understand
  73. # [00:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9883b8930f30 - Aaron Klotz - Bug 945784: Prepends a newline to InvalidateCaches entry before writing to compatibility.ini; r=bbondy
  74. # [00:22] <philor> though sadly they are just the ones where we're already saying if(10.7 || 10.8) punt;
  75. # [00:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1687f0278bdd - Reuben Morais - Bug 938597 - Include pref name in the error message for operations that cannot happen in content processes. r=bsmedberg
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  79. # [00:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4d07001e9afc - Bill McCloskey - Bug 673569 - Let each frame script have its own anonymous scope (r=smaug,Waldo,mrbkap,bsmedberg)
  80. # [00:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30a8127b9277 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 682048 - Change Firefox frame script handling to support anon/global scope (r=felipe)
  81. # [00:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7aa50b69994 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 682048 - Change B2G frame script handling to support anon/global scope (r=fabrice)
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  91. # [00:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/727a945e6ddc - Chris Peterson - Bug 944977 - Part 1: Backport _vorbis_window_get() function signature from libvorbis r19028. r=tterribe
  92. # [00:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96800b422285 - Chris Peterson - Bug 940194 - Build netwerk/cookie in unified mode. r=ehsan
  93. # [00:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bbdfac4aa444 - Chris Peterson - Bug 944977 - Part 2: Build media/libvorbis in unified mode. r=tterribe
  94. # [00:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58dbd2146e24 - Chris Peterson - Bug 944961 - Build rdf in unified mode. r=bsmedberg
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  98. # [00:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/724ff9cacbc1 - Nicholas Cameron - No bug. Remove an erroneous comment. r=me. DONTBUILD
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  101. # [00:33] <@njn> bz_away: how do I read a pref from C++ code?
  102. # [00:34] <@njn> bz_away: and do I just have to add prefs to the .js files for them to appear?
  103. # [00:34] <@khuey> Preferences::GetFoo
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  108. # [00:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/838f865fa1c7 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 933231 - don't |unset| variables after configuring NSPR; r=ted
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  118. # [00:41] <TimAbraldes> did the RSA key of hg.mozilla.org change recently?
  119. # [00:41] <reuben> TimAbraldes: yes
  120. # [00:41] <RyanVM|afk> couple weeks ago IIRC
  121. # [00:41] <TimAbraldes> ok thanks
  122. # [00:42] <reuben> TimAbraldes: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/WOE8lm9cFRE
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  136. # [00:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff49c9feb466 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 931642 - Backed out changeset f4449a06e97f (bug 917883) for causing frequent OSX crashes.
  137. # [00:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ede459abb05 - Byron Campen [:bwc] - Bug 942958 - Fix bug where a failure to populate the foundation of a peerreflexive candidate would result in an incorrect error return from
  138. # [00:49] <firebot> nr_ice_peer_peer_rflx_candidate_create. r=ekr
  139. # [00:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7c22bdbf800 - Andreas Pehrson - Bug 944679 - Do not return nullptr in DeprecatedTextureHostBasic::GetAsSurface. r=nical
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  141. # [00:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fdd48523bfbe - Jed Davis - Bug 943774 - Allow sigaction when sandboxed, for the crash reporter. r=kang
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  145. # [00:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a683f61403a1 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 58dbd2146e24 (bug 944961) for bustage.
  146. # [00:52] * @njn loves -Werror=return-type
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  148. # [00:53] <@njn> khuey: Preferences::GetBool() works! that was easier than I feared
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  150. # [00:54] * @njn assumes |#ifdef XP_LINUX| is ok in a prefs.js file; it appears to work
  151. # [00:54] <@khuey> yes, it is
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  165. # [01:00] <@njn> NeilAway: I found a better place to do it
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  171. # [01:05] <bwc> So, is stuff like "export CCACHE_LOGFILE=/home/bcampen/ccache.log" in .mozconfig expected to work? Because it works only for the autotools-generated compiler check stuff, but not for any of our sources.
  172. # [01:06] <josh> How come the unified sources patches landing on m-i are breaking the tree so frequently? Are they not being run through try server?
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  174. # [01:07] <@njn> gkw: dammit, Valgrind runs got busted
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  176. # [01:07] <bwc> I could imagine that incremental builds where you have unified sources would be tricky.
  177. # [01:07] <@njn> gkw: getting leaks
  178. # [01:08] <bwc> Particularly if you're adding/removing source files.
  179. # [01:08] <bwc> But that's just a wild guess.
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  198. # [01:15] <gkw> njn: ouch!
  199. # [01:15] <gkw> njn: that's why we need per-checkin
  200. # [01:16] <@njn> gkw: yeah. Some of those are familiar false positives, due to pointers being munged as js::Values
  201. # [01:16] <gkw> njn: with such a small regression window, we can file the bug and attach the regression window to it
  202. # [01:16] <@njn> gkw: I wonder if they're triggered by the other leaks
  203. # [01:16] <gkw> njn: maybe we should go as Julian suggests, with Valgrind 3.9.0, ignore those types of leaks
  204. # [01:17] <@njn> gkw: that would require additional modifications
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  206. # [01:17] <gkw> njn: true, but i'm just thinking ahead, instead of what seems to be whack-a-mole
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  210. # [01:18] <gkw> njn: we need to get buy-in from releng about bug 946002
  211. # [01:19] <gkw> e.g. costs and all that
  212. # [01:19] <@njn> gkw: I'm drafting an email right now
  213. # [01:19] <@njn> gkw: I'll show you before I send it
  214. # [01:19] <gkw> njn: sure, thanks!
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  227. # [01:27] <@njn> gkw: do you know if it's possible/easy to run ASan builds locally?
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  229. # [01:28] <dholbert> njn, for testing purposes, or as your standard daily browser?
  230. # [01:28] <dholbert> njn, definitely possible to build & run them for testing
  231. # [01:28] <@njn> dholbert: for testing
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  233. # [01:29] <@njn> dholbert: as in https://wiki.mozilla.org/Sheriffing/Job_Visibility_Policy#11.29_Easy_for_a_dev_to_run_locally
  234. # [01:29] <dholbert> njn, ah. not sure if it meets that requirement yet :)
  235. # [01:29] <dholbert> but I think probably
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  237. # [01:29] <@njn> dholbert: well, it's visible on TBPL :)
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  242. # [01:30] <dholbert> njn, fwiw, ASAN build steps are documented here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Building_Firefox_with_Address_Sanitizer
  243. # [01:30] <dholbert> njn, it's fairly easy after you've done it once
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  252. # [01:37] <gkw> njn: yeah, it's easy, i heard. i've compiled asan js shells only, though
  253. # [01:37] <gkw> (now it's easy, it used to be tough!)
  254. # [01:37] <gkw> but yeah ASAN 64-bit linux are on TBPL now
  255. # [01:37] <gkw> per-checkin
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  300. # [02:05] <zzzzz> I tried to file a bug on a crash from a crash-report and I'm not at all sure I did it right, seems pretty empty compared to other bugs I've seen filed from the crash-report , could someone take a quick look ?
  301. # [02:05] <zzzzz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=944926
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  303. # [02:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e8348e52f559 - Joel Maher - Bug 945795 - Update talos to 2bcf422011d1 to fix OS X. r=armenzg
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  322. # [02:14] <@njn> given two revision ids, how do I view the regression range on hg.mozilla.org
  323. # [02:14] <@njn> ?
  324. # [02:15] <@gavin> e.g. http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?fromchange=b672877ed046&tochange=0f7261e288f2
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  343. # [02:27] <decoder> njn: 3 is also detected by asan
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  345. # [02:27] <decoder> 4 as well
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  347. # [02:27] <@njn> decoder: cool
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  351. # [02:28] <@njn> decoder: so 2 and 5 and the main distinguishers
  352. # [02:28] <decoder> it's just 2 and 5 that we need
  353. # [02:28] <decoder> yea
  354. # [02:28] <philor> josh: it burns!
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  357. # [02:28] <decoder> esp. 2 is important for security too
  358. # [02:28] <josh> philor: sorry! backing out
  359. # [02:28] <decoder> those can be severe bugs
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  361. # [02:29] <RyanVM|afk> philor: billm for the b2g bustage?
  362. # [02:29] <philor> josh: CLOSED TREE, two words, in the commit message, since we're already closed for something else
  363. # [02:29] <philor> RyanVM|afk: I was sort of hoping you would know
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  365. # [02:29] <RyanVM|afk> nah, I just saw the impending bustage wave and closed things while I put the kid to bed
  366. # [02:30] <RyanVM|afk> philor: tests are running on his push now
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  368. # [02:30] <RyanVM|afk> guess we'll know soon enough
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  372. # [02:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78fd1153718f - Josh Aas - Back out patch for bug 852648. CLOSED TREE
  373. # [02:31] <RyanVM|afk> philor: some scary-looking patches without emulator builds, though :(
  374. # [02:31] <@njn> gavin: thanks! is there a way to do it that doesn't involve modifying a prior URL?
  375. # [02:31] <glandium> RyanVM|afk: the last two stars for bug 889073 are unrelated to the bug
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  379. # [02:33] <philor> RyanVM|afk: yeah, I like pretty much everybody in the possible range for it
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  381. # [02:33] <philor> CLEAR THE TABLE!
  382. # [02:33] <RyanVM|afk> philor: triggered emulator builds on the missing csets
  383. # [02:35] <philor> gdb /builds/slave/m-in-l64-asan-d-00000000000000/build/obj-firefox/dist/bin/firefox 19378
  384. # [02:35] <philor> huh, those logs said if I typed that, it would attach my debugger
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  392. # [02:40] <@bz> man
  393. # [02:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb35692e00ec - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 2572592c326d (bug 945813) for Linux64 debug xpcshell crashes.
  394. # [02:40] <@bz> we have no nice wrapper for nsDeque?
  395. # [02:40] <froydnj> can't wrap up ugly in a nice package
  396. # [02:41] <RyanVM|afk> glandium: sorry about that, the order of the tbpl suggestion list changed and muscle memory won :(
  397. # [02:41] <mccr8> ugh nsDeque. :P
  398. # [02:41] <glandium> RyanVM|afk: you're not alone, philor too
  399. # [02:41] <RyanVM|afk> we star it a lot :P
  400. # [02:42] <@khuey> bz: can we replace nsDeque with some STL thing yet?
  401. # [02:42] <RyanVM|afk> glandium: and since nobody apparently knows how to debug gtest crashes, we're going to keep starring it...
  402. # [02:42] <RyanVM|afk> until we give up and disable them I guess
  403. # [02:42] <glandium> RyanVM|afk: how much is that lot?
  404. # [02:42] <glandium> RyanVM|afk: because every time gtest fails, everything that runs after it is not run
  405. # [02:42] <RyanVM|afk> glandium: Bug 904227
  406. # [02:43] <RyanVM|afk> see for yourself
  407. # [02:43] <RyanVM|afk> got a lot worse in the last couple days
  408. # [02:43] <@khuey> RyanVM|afk: anybody needinfo benwa?
  409. # [02:43] <@khuey> gtest is his baby
  410. # [02:43] <glandium> RyanVM|afk: yeah, that's way too much
  411. # [02:44] <RyanVM|afk> khuey: uh, read the bug
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  413. # [02:44] <RyanVM|afk> already got the virtual shoulder shrug from him
  414. # [02:44] <@khuey> :-/
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  416. # [02:45] <@bz> khuey: good question
  417. # [02:45] <@bz> khuey: this code is using vector
  418. # [02:45] <@bz> hrm
  419. # [02:45] <@bz> do we have auto support across platforms now?
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  422. # [02:46] <RyanVM|afk> khuey: so yeah, one of us will disable it eventually after getting sick of starring it time and time again
  423. # [02:46] * dveditz is now known as dveditz|afk
  424. # [02:46] <@khuey> RyanVM|afk: sounds like it's unowned ;-)
  425. # [02:47] <RyanVM|afk> exactly my thoughts on the matter!
  426. # [02:47] <@gavin> njn: I don't think so
  427. # [02:47] <@bz> Anyone
  428. # [02:47] <@bz> auto?
  429. # [02:47] * @bz guesses no
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  431. # [02:47] <@khuey> bz: yes
  432. # [02:47] <@khuey> bz: auto works everywhere
  433. # [02:47] <@khuey> and is used in the tree
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  435. # [02:48] <@bz> huh
  436. # [02:48] <@bz> wow
  437. # [02:48] <@bz> ok, then
  438. # [02:48] <@bz> we should use it in bindings code!
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  440. # [02:48] <@bz> Would sure simplify some of the codegen
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  443. # [02:48] <@roc> http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/fmp4/demuxer/box_reader.cc?from=box_reader.cc#115
  444. # [02:49] <@khuey> bz: sounds good to me!
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  446. # [02:49] <@roc> oh, lots of uses in workers
  447. # [02:49] * bjacob_calvados is now known as bjacob
  448. # [02:49] <@roc> time to do a mass search and replace on all local variable declarations
  449. # [02:50] <glandium> RyanVM|afk: we should, at the very least, make gtest last
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  451. # [02:50] <@khuey> yeah, I added a ton
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  453. # [02:50] <@bz> So vector is usually ok?
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  457. # [02:51] <@bz> Does a ThreadLocal need to be inited only once, or once per thread?
  458. # [02:51] <@khuey> once
  459. # [02:51] * @bz can't tell from the impl and it's not documented. :(
  460. # [02:51] <@khuey> assuming this is the mfbt thread local
  461. # [02:51] <@bz> yes, the mfbt one
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  463. # [02:52] <@khuey> reading the implementation tells you pretty quickly ;-)
  464. # [02:52] <gkw> njn: that's why we really need Valgrind on TBPL to run on every checkin
  465. # [02:52] <gkw> :-/
  466. # [02:52] <@khuey> assuming you're at all familiar with the pthreads tls stuff
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  468. # [02:52] <@bz> khuey: I'm not. ;)
  469. # [02:52] <gkw> debugging that MessageLoop bug might be tricky
  470. # [02:52] <@bz> but ok
  471. # [02:53] <mrbkap> Is it correct to add a "microtask checkpoint" as a thread observer "AfterProcessNextEvent"?
  472. # [02:53] <@khuey> bz: lies
  473. # [02:53] <@khuey> everybody knows bz knows all
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  478. # [02:53] <@njn> gkw: you
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  480. # [02:54] <@njn> gkw: you're preaching to the choir
  481. # [02:54] * mcote is now known as mcote|afk
  482. # [02:54] <gkw> njn: :)
  483. # [02:54] <gkw> njn: i can only think on bisecting now
  484. # [02:54] <@roc> mrbkap: add to nsContentUtils::LeaveMicroTask, perhaps?
  485. # [02:54] <gkw> *of
  486. # [02:55] <@bz> mrbkap: mmm
  487. # [02:55] <@bz> mrbkap: Which ones?
  488. # [02:55] <@bz> Oh, microtask checkpoint
  489. # [02:55] <mrbkap> bz: Well, ... right.
  490. # [02:55] <@bz> You want smaug
  491. # [02:55] <mrbkap> bz: ok, I'll talk to him.
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  493. # [02:55] <mrbkap> roc: That is a related but slightly different concept.
  494. # [02:56] <@bz> That said...
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  496. # [02:56] <@bz> C,
  497. # [02:56] <@bz> er...
  498. # [02:56] <@bz> Right now we have no gecko concept of "microtask checkpoint
  499. # [02:56] <@bz> we have the LeaveMicroTask when it hits 0
  500. # [02:57] <@bz> which does 4854 nsDOMMutationObserver::HandleMutations();
  501. # [02:57] <@bz> And we have an explicit call to nsDOMMutationObserver::HandleMutations in nsXPConnect::AfterProcessNextEvent
  502. # [02:57] <mrbkap> ah
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  505. # [02:57] <@bz> which suggests that we should in fact have a MicrotaskCheckpoint()
  506. # [02:57] <@bz> call it from both places
  507. # [02:57] <mrbkap> That sounds a lot like "microtask checkpoint"
  508. # [02:57] <@bz> Do HAndleMutations in it
  509. # [02:57] <@bz> and whatever you want
  510. # [02:57] <@bz> and if your stuff needs to happen on workers too, do something
  511. # [02:58] <mrbkap> Thanks!
  512. # [02:58] <@bz> No problem
  513. # [02:58] * bz is now known as smaug
  514. # [02:58] <@khuey> hah
  515. # [02:58] * smaug is now known as bz
  516. # [02:58] * @bz shakes fist at nickserv
  517. # [02:58] <@bz> You threaten now
  518. # [02:59] <@bz> But just you wait!
  519. # [02:59] * mrbkap watches nickserv quiver in its server.
  520. # [02:59] <Callek> bz: is nickserv an easier battle than whatever bug is on your Q4 goals list?
  521. # [02:59] * Callek laughs
  522. # [02:59] <@dolske> "How to serve nick" OMG. It's a cookbook!
  523. # [02:59] * @dolske warns fitzgen frantically.
  524. # [03:00] * Callek hopes nthomas isn't going to be near bz anytime soon, I don't want my next cantina with bz to be using said cookbook!
  525. # [03:00] <@bz> Callek: goals?
  526. # [03:00] <@khuey> do we still do goals?
  527. # [03:00] * @bz looks
  528. # [03:00] <@bz> Like I thought
  529. # [03:00] <@bz> I own none of these
  530. # [03:01] <Callek> khuey: well we do, or so I'm told... I've managed to stay off the "owns" lists for a while now
  531. # [03:01] <Callek> my work is important enough to not get missed with these things called goals
  532. # [03:01] <@bz> khuey: we have an "on track" goal to deal with most of the window webidl bits...
  533. # [03:01] <@bz> I guess I took some of those
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  538. # [03:04] <@dolske> I had a Q3 goal to write Q4 goals. oops.
  539. # [03:04] <@dolske> wait, no. I had a Q4 goal to write Q3 goals.
  540. # [03:04] <froydnj> ...for 2011
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  542. # [03:05] <@bz> for the js team
  543. # [03:05] <tessarakt3> writing goals after the fact might be even _harder_ ...
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  545. # [03:07] <@dolske> ...for 2011... ...for the js team... ...at microsoft...
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  549. # [03:08] <@roc> great, I've got some requests
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  552. # [03:09] <@dolske> ...in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet... ...in a disused lavatory... ...beware of leopard...
  553. # [03:09] <@dolske> roc: submit your md5s and I'll see what I can do.
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  556. # [03:10] <RyanVM|afk> dolske++
  557. # [03:10] * @bz thought for a sec that dolske was going to decipher old blog posts
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  559. # [03:11] <BenWa> khuey: needinfo on what?
  560. # [03:11] <@dolske> /msg bz nah, the Snowden leaks will cover that soon.
  561. # [03:11] <RyanVM|afk> lol
  562. # [03:12] <RyanVM|afk> BenWa: gtest crashing and taking down the rest of the checktests with it
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  574. # [03:15] <RyanVM|afk> BenWa: so if one were attempt to turn off gtests on linux, where would one start looking?
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  597. # [03:29] <philor> RyanVM|afk: looks like http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/gtest/Makefile.in#29 is where we already disable them on Windows, plenty of room for more ifdefs there
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  604. # [03:32] <@bz> "it consumes about 388 kB of stack per call"
  605. # [03:32] <@bz> nice
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  607. # [03:32] <@roc> let's hope it's not recursive
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  611. # [03:33] <@bz> roc: In this case it is
  612. # [03:33] <@roc> oookay
  613. # [03:33] <@bz> roc: https://github.com/mozilla/servo/issues/1325#issuecomment-29772297
  614. # [03:34] <@bz> "Stack exhaustion after redirects ..."
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  622. # [03:35] <BenWa> RyanVM|afk: youd disable the make check for it
  623. # [03:35] <BenWa> RyanVM|afk: are the crahes only on linux?
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  629. # [03:36] <RyanVM|afk> BenWa: you can see the tbplbot comments in the bug
  630. # [03:37] <RyanVM|afk> philor: thx
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  632. # [03:37] <RyanVM|afk> philor: we have a winner!
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  635. # [03:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0043aedc9d7e - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 1e96d70a3f9b (bug 941905) for frequent B2G reftest timeouts.
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  638. # [03:40] <erikvold> Hello, how do I only run these tests https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/tree/master/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/test/xpcshell ?
  639. # [03:41] <BenWa> RyanVM|afk: the failure are only on linux 64bit and the font test are worrying. Let's discuss those for now
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  641. # [03:41] <BenWa> disable*
  642. # [03:41] <@bz> mach xpcshell-test toolkit/mozapps/extensions ?
  643. # [03:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b4e048b6d7d1 - seabld - Added tag SEAMONKEY_2_23b1_BUILD1 for changeset FIREFOX_26_0b10_BUILD1. CLOSED TREE a=release
  644. # [03:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/697b60cb4d70 - seabld - Added tag SEAMONKEY_2_23b1_RELEASE for changeset FIREFOX_26_0b10_BUILD1. CLOSED TREE a=release
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  646. # [03:41] <erikvold> bz sweet I'll try that thanks
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  672. # [04:11] <@njn> Callek: what's the password for your blog post?
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  692. # [04:28] <@njn> glandium: is libxpcom.so something that used to exist but no longer does?
  693. # [04:28] <glandium> njn: ys
  694. # [04:28] <glandium> yes
  695. # [04:28] <@njn> glandium: thanks
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  697. # [04:28] <@bz> it's been eaten
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  699. # [04:29] <@njn> glandium: within my objdir, I have four copies of libxul.so:
  700. # [04:29] <@njn> ./toolkit/library/libxul.so
  701. # [04:29] <@njn> ./dist/sdk/lib/libxul.so
  702. # [04:29] <@njn> ./dist/lib/libxul.so
  703. # [04:29] <@njn> ./dist/bin/libxul.so
  704. # [04:29] <@njn> according to /proc/self/maps, its the first one that gets picked up.
  705. # [04:29] <@njn> what determines that?
  706. # [04:29] <glandium> njn: yes, and they all should be symlinks but one
  707. # [04:29] <@njn> ah, so they are; makes sense
  708. # [04:30] <glandium> (except on windows)
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  710. # [04:31] <glandium> njn: bug 852950 for xpcom, fwiw
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  713. # [04:32] <@njn> glandium: Windows? pfft, who cares
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  731. # [04:39] <philor> do we get billed per word included in bug comments, and I just haven't ever gotten my first bill?
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  735. # [04:40] <philor> otherwise, the way people seem to go out of their way to say as little as possible doesn't make much sense to me
  736. # [04:41] <@bz> sent from their iphones?
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  740. # [04:43] <philor> heh. if "remote: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/..." as the only comment following my big long explanation of why I backed something out is from a phone, I'm impressed by the phone
  741. # [04:44] <philor> "Bug nnn - Fix some stuff. Pushed from my iPhone"
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  744. # [04:45] <@roc> glandium: on Windows, are all those libxuls (i.e. xul.dlls) actually copies?
  745. # [04:45] <@roc> o yeah
  746. # [04:45] <@roc> that's what you said
  747. # [04:45] <@roc> why don't we use links on Windows?
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  753. # [04:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec574743984d - Douglas Crosher - Bug 941905 - Move the HWCAP_ARMv7 flag down to bit 29, r=mjrosenb
  754. # [04:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/874788e2239c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets e7aa50b69994, bc00eed50b7d, and 30a8127b9277 (bug 682048) for causing frequent B2G reftest timeouts.
  755. # [04:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/771052f15a6c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 4d07001e9afc (bug 673569) because it depends on bug 682048 which is being backed out.
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  757. # [04:50] <glandium> roc: because the bug about it is still open
  758. # [04:50] <glandium> iirc vlad was looking at it
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  761. # [04:51] <jld> So, um, is there some standard way I should be indicating to the checkin-needed patrol which branch I intend? And/or is there a reason why a patch might wind up checked into an inbound other than the one I asked for?
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  766. # [04:54] <philor> jld: you're 15 minutes late RyanVM already /quit for the night
  767. # [04:56] <jld> philor: I was hoping that this might be something that was more generally known.
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  771. # [04:57] <philor> jld: he is the entirety of the checkin-needed patrol, its Alpha and its Omega, so the question is really "RyanVM: what can I do to stop you from deciding which inbound you think will cause the least chance of merge conflicts?"
  772. # [04:58] <jld> philor: Ah. I see.
  773. # [04:59] <philor> other than when some random person eager to see the bug land grabs one, but then there's no way of influencing them, since they just want it landed, in whichever tree they have handy
  774. # [05:01] <jld> And, I mean, if it's RyanVM applying the merge-conflict-reduction fairy dust, then that's great, but if it's me failing to communicate clearly to someone who has a zillion other patches besides my special snowflake, then that's not so great.
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  777. # [05:04] <philor> the other reason he'll push you to an odd place is because he has three going there already, and he'd rather push four unrelated things at the end of the day and make me sort them out than push three to one tree and one to another :)
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  779. # [05:05] <philor> heh, and I didn't even look first, and still got the number of things correct
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  782. # [05:07] <philor> so, yeah, ask him: it may be that his c-n query shows the whiteboard, and putting the tree of choice in there gets seen while comments don't
  783. # [05:08] <jld> philor: FWIW, this was the second thing in succession that went to a different branch, which is part of what made me wonder if I was Doing It Wrong. One of them even went to fx-team, and I'm not sure I even know what that is.
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  785. # [05:09] <philor> jld: "front-end" though very broadly front-end, and I'll bet you went as one of four in a push then too
  786. # [05:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a71ebc7f1bb4 - Steffen Wilberg - Bug 937789: Display SSL/TLS cipher suite prefs in about:config again, r=briansmith
  787. # [05:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e9d5098d95f - Brian Smith - Bug 898431: Update NSS to NSS 3.15.4 beta 6 (NSS_3_15_4_BETA6), r=me
  788. # [05:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c5e505d54ea6 - Steffen Wilberg - Bug 945871: Remove the security.ssl3.ecdh_* preferences, r=briansmith
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  794. # [05:14] <philor> who will speak for test_handlerApps.xhtml?
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  798. # [05:16] <philor> and who will admit to knowledge about 10.9 scrollbars?
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  812. # [05:23] <jld> (I *do* admit to being lazy about fixing the b2g keon build on Mac hosts, for values of "fix" that mean making it not more broken than a prebuilt-kernel device.)
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  820. # [05:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/43cb549c9f23 - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 756885 - Bail out of test_bug624329.xul early on 10.9, where win.maximize() gives us a resize without actually maximizing
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  823. # [05:28] <philor> oh my
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  826. # [05:29] <philor> I remembered that greening up 10.7 didn't start out with a bang, but I'd forgotten we started running on it in October, and I started filing on the hidden permaorange the next May
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  844. # [05:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b1da46deff2 - Karl Tomlinson - b=937057 remove resampler latency from BufferSource playback r=padenot
  845. # [05:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8187818246ad - Karl Tomlinson - test for bug 937475
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  867. # [06:08] <@bz> [PutForwards=href, Unforgeable, Throws,
  868. # [06:08] <@bz> GetterSkipsThisSecurityCheck,
  869. # [06:08] <@bz> SetterSkipsThisSecurityCheck] readonly attribute Location? location;
  870. # [06:08] * @bz wonders whether that's enough for peopel to realize that attribute is weird
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  877. # [06:13] <Mathnerd314> I thought one of the rules was that every checkin had to have a bug. so what lets ehsan not have a bug?
  878. # [06:14] <@ehsan> because it's trivial
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  880. # [06:15] <Mathnerd314> is that written down somewhere? :p
  881. # [06:15] <@ehsan> nope
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  886. # [06:17] <Mathnerd314> maybe you could add it: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Committing_Rules_and_Responsibilities ?
  887. # [06:17] <@bz> This is one of those rules where if you aren't sure whether it applies to you, it does.
  888. # [06:17] <@ehsan> right :)
  889. # [06:18] <@ehsan> erm, s/does/doesn't/ I guess?
  890. # [06:18] <Peng> If it applies to you, you know which was correct. :D
  891. # [06:18] <Peng> or doesn't
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  897. # [06:20] <@bz> I meant the "need a bug number" rule
  898. # [06:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96d025fe7fb4 - Chris Peterson - Bug 945613 - Part 2: Mark xpcom/ds as FAIL_ON_WARNINGS. r=ehsan
  899. # [06:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8002c2110210 - Chris Peterson - Bug 945613 - Part 1: Suppress -Wdelete-non-virtual-dtor warning in nsAtomTable.cpp. r=ehsan
  900. # [06:21] <@ehsan> bz: right :)
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  909. # [06:25] <@bz> I guess I'll be good
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  917. # [06:30] <nemo> hrm
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  919. # [06:31] <nemo> bz: I had a page that used -moz-crisp-edges for pixel scaling
  920. # [06:31] <nemo> since
  921. # [06:31] <nemo> oh
  922. # [06:31] <nemo> damn
  923. # [06:31] <nemo> anyway. doesn't work anymore
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  926. # [06:35] <nigelb> 23
  927. # [06:35] <nigelb> (gah)
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  929. # [06:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee8b8fa121d0 - Shian-Yow Wu - Bug 919979 - Crash when calling WebrtcVideoConduit::SendVideoFrame() with very small resolution. r=derf
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  935. # [06:48] <Mathnerd314> by my count, ehsan has 88 "no bug" checkins, and the next highest is dholbert with 56. so I guess "every checkin needs a bug number... unless your name is ehsan" is the proper rule
  936. # [06:49] <nrc> Mathnerd314: I think ehsan is particularly good at spotting that kind of bug
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  938. # [06:49] <nrc> also, given the number of patches ehsan has checked in, I suspect his ratio is no higher than anyone elses
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  940. # [06:51] <markh> how on earth can simply referencing (ie, not using, just accessing) an nsIFrameLoader.ownerElement change how nsContainerBoxObject fetches a docShell!?
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  942. # [06:52] <@bz_sleep> markh: presumably because the access causes XBL binding instantiation?
  943. # [06:52] <glandium> nrc: his ration is infinitely higher than mine, according to a quick grep
  944. # [06:52] <glandium> ratio
  945. # [06:52] <markh> bz_sleep: yes!
  946. # [06:52] <markh> exactly!
  947. # [06:52] <markh> how though?
  948. # [06:52] <@bz_sleep> oh
  949. # [06:53] <@bz_sleep> Because that's how nodes work
  950. # [06:53] <dholbert> Mathnerd314, IIRC, my "no bug" checkins are almost entirely comment-only changes or one-off whitespace fixes
  951. # [06:53] <@bz_sleep> markh: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/Element.cpp#357
  952. # [06:53] <markh> bz_sleep: and I guess there's nothing I can do about that?
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  954. # [06:53] <@bz_sleep> markh: see the bits that force bindings to load in various cases
  955. # [06:53] <@bz_sleep> markh: well, your node could not be in the document
  956. # [06:54] <RattyAway> First time I'm building a debug build. What does this mean?
  957. # [06:54] <@bz_sleep> markh: but then it won't have a frameloader either, of course
  958. # [06:54] <RattyAway> [1148] ###!!! ASSERTION: Category manager doesn't support persistence.: 'Error', file c:/t1/hg/comm-central/mozilla/xpcom/compon
  959. # [06:54] <RattyAway> ents/nsCategoryManager.cpp, line 610
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  963. # [06:54] <@bz_sleep> Mathnerd314: so ehsan has "no bug" checkins as about 2.5% of his checkins, as far as hg knows
  964. # [06:55] <@bz_sleep> Mathnerd314: That doesn't seem excessive
  965. # [06:55] <markh> bz_sleep: right. I'm accessing it so I can call reallyIsBrowserOrApp on it
  966. # [06:55] <@bz_sleep> markh: mmm
  967. # [06:56] <markh> which as you say is instantiating the binding
  968. # [06:56] <@bz_sleep> markh: So why does instantiating the xbl binding mess you up?
  969. # [06:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b3b9d66e27d5 - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 786938 - disable test_handlerApps.xhtml on OS X 10. where it's permaorange
  970. # [06:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d1689276f118 - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 924771 - Disable test_browserElement_oop_ExposableURI.html until someone teaches it to stop timing out
  971. # [06:56] <markh> bz_sleep: it's causing one obscure editor test to fail with this.docShell is null
  972. # [06:56] <@bz_sleep> markh: :(
  973. # [06:57] <markh> and it's returning null as nsContainerBoxObject's docShell getter is bailing out due to no subdocument
  974. # [06:57] <@bz_sleep> Mathnerd314: More to the point, what matters is what's in the commits
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  976. # [06:57] <@bz_sleep> markh: huh
  977. # [06:57] <@bz_sleep> markh: Weird
  978. # [06:58] <markh> the test actually seems to pass, but the error message alone is enough to make the test fail :(
  979. # [06:58] <@bz_sleep> which test is this?
  980. # [06:58] <markh> test_bug434998.xul
  981. # [06:59] <markh> editor/composer/test/test_bug434998.xul
  982. # [06:59] <@bz_sleep> right
  983. # [06:59] <@bz_sleep> and where are you adding your code?
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  985. # [06:59] <markh> bz_sleep: bug 935793
  986. # [07:00] <vlad> roc: on windows, there are two kinds of links.. junctions and symlinks. junctions are for directories only. symlinks are only supported on vista+, and require a privilege.. I couldn'tg et it to work by granting a user that priv, but I've been doing builds as admin forever
  987. # [07:00] <markh> which is trying to send the "frame-created" notifications unconditionally and have the observers check if reallyIsBrowserOrAppFrame
  988. # [07:00] <vlad> roc: I would love to start using symlinks; issue was we needed a rm.exe that understood symlinks; I fixed that, we have one (it's not in moz-build though)
  989. # [07:00] <vlad> roc: but the next step is to detect whether the privilege and capability is there and then do symlinks
  990. # [07:00] <@bz_sleep> _observeInProcessBrowserFrameShown ?
  991. # [07:01] <vlad> roc: I would really need help from a build system person to do that though.. would take half an hour with them, vs. me spending a day
  992. # [07:01] <markh> bz_sleep: yeah
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  994. # [07:02] <markh> bz_sleep: even though in this case its *not* a BrowserOrAppFrame - but simply referencing ownerElement is enough to make the test fail due to the binding instantiating
  995. # [07:02] <@bz_sleep> And the throwing this.docshell is in makeEditable?
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  997. # [07:02] <markh> via the edit binding ctor actually - which itself has a makeEditable call
  998. # [07:02] <markh> *editor
  999. # [07:02] <@bz_sleep> right
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  1001. # [07:02] <@bz_sleep> That's what I meant
  1002. # [07:03] <markh> right, so yes :)
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  1005. # [07:03] <@bz_sleep> ok
  1006. # [07:03] <@bz_sleep> so we don't find a frame, I assume?
  1007. # [07:04] <@bz_sleep> And then we GetSubDocumentFor and get null?
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  1014. # [07:05] <markh> not 100% sure about that, but we certainly don't get to that return. I'm instrumenting with printfs at the moment, as I can't get a tiny repro - the test run alone works fine
  1015. # [07:05] <@bz_sleep> fun
  1016. # [07:05] <@bz_sleep> I don't know offhand why nsContainerBoxObject::GetDocShell is confused
  1017. # [07:05] <@bz_sleep> But we could also fix it to QI to frameloader owner
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  1019. # [07:06] <@bz_sleep> and get the docshell via frameloader
  1020. # [07:06] <markh> (which is presumably because an earlier test sets the dom.mozBrowserFramesEnabled pref to true, which enables BrowserElementParent.js...
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  1022. # [07:06] <@bz_sleep> which had better work in this case!
  1023. # [07:06] <markh> but just setting that pref at the start of the test also isn't enough to provoke it
  1024. # [07:06] <markh> hrm - ok, thanks - I can experiment with that
  1025. # [07:07] <@roc> vlad: grab glandium next time you're on together and just do it?
  1026. # [07:07] <markh> you mean replace that entire if (frame) block with that?
  1027. # [07:07] <@bz_sleep> I mean, that's what nsSubDocumentFrame::GetDocShell ends up doing
  1028. # [07:07] <@bz_sleep> anyway
  1029. # [07:07] <@bz_sleep> I should really sleep
  1030. # [07:07] <markh> ie, instead if the GetFrame() and following block, do a QI for FrameElementOwner?
  1031. # [07:07] <markh> ok, thanks for the clues - I'll be beck to annoy you tomorrow ;)
  1032. # [07:07] <@bz_sleep> We can start with the GetFrame if we want
  1033. # [07:08] <@bz_sleep> but then instead of the subdoc map, QI to nsIFrameLoaderOwner
  1034. # [07:08] <@bz_sleep> (But I suspect we can just replace the GetFrame stuff too)
  1035. # [07:08] <markh> ah, ok
  1036. # [07:09] <@roc> my last few "hg pull --rebase"s have taken FOREVER
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  1038. # [07:09] <@roc> hg just sits there consume 100% CPU for several minutes
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  1041. # [07:10] <@roc> hmm I wonder if it's these mq patches I have that move zillions of files around
  1042. # [07:10] <vlad> glandium: you up for hacking in symlink support on windows?
  1043. # [07:11] <vlad> if it's available and accessible by the user
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  1050. # [07:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4771c427c785 - Vivien Nicolas - Bug 940420 - It's nearly impossible to close browser app tabs with edge gestures enabled. r=smaug
  1051. # [07:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f33904f2323d - Vivien Nicolas - Bug 940036 - 3rd party gaia apps should set a meta-viewport tag. r=kats
  1052. # [07:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30a98b93ba25 - Vivien Nicolas - Bug 943831 - Apps can be size incorrectly, ignoring the viewport rules. r=kats
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  1101. # [08:10] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hola
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  1130. # [08:28] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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  1152. # [08:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> roc: ping
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  1154. # [08:50] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> roc seems your push cause on android a failure like https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=31428783&tree=Mozilla-Inbound - is this expected ?
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  1164. # [08:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba41e330fc7a - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 899785. Turn on Windows OMTC on nightly. r=mattwoodrow
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  1217. # [09:32] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok guys inbound is open again
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  1219. # [09:35] <nicklebedev> guys, do someone know whether metro firefox started working?
  1220. # [09:35] <nicklebedev> yesterday it was crashing on start
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  1228. # [09:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f3f8f2713180 - Richard Newman - Bug 941844 - Part 3: additional Robocop checks for page titles. r=trivial
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  1233. # [09:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d5a62078b4f2 - Jared Wein - Bug 945191 - Combined buttons show wrong context menu options when they are in the toolbar. r=Gijs
  1234. # [09:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cd918aef9e64 - Richard Newman - Bug 936756 - Switch locales via pref, not via system locale setting. r=mfinkle,sriram (relanded as one patch)
  1235. # [09:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9fe5e212fa41 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge fx-team to mozilla-central
  1236. # [09:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/14b3b255b2c8 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 943466 - Fix copy/cut errors in SelectionHandler. r=wesj
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  1243. # [09:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/94b8161eb20a - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 922680 - Add ability to run b2g emulator reftests oop, r=jgriffin
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  1245. # [09:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7da6412ef035 - Albert Crespell - Bug 944051 - Return networks for SIMs that already doesn't have a data connection. r=gene, r=jshih
  1246. # [09:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d997913037df - Reuben Morais - Bug 906226 - Move shared test code to a single file. r=gwagner
  1247. # [09:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9688476c1544 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge b2g-inbound to mozilla-central
  1248. # [09:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/482e84753f32 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 935273 - B2G filePicker.js uses nocrop when no filters are set. r=dflanagan
  1249. # [09:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/59bb5272674d - Michael Wu - Bug 945025 - Fix pointer bounds calculation in GeckoPointerController, r=m1
  1250. # [09:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/77c3680c7f56 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 945091. Part 3: Flatten layout/xul/base/* into layout/xul. r=glandium
  1251. # [09:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0b9123264b9 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 945097. Build widget/gtk in unified mode. r=karl,ehsan
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  1255. # [09:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20ba1c3ccad8 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 945091. Part 1: Flatten inspector/public and inspector/src into inspector. r=glandium
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  1337. # [11:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e55e2e773ae6 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Backed out changeset d5a62078b4f2 (bug 945191) for commit msg without 'Australis'
  1338. # [11:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7476bb2b8e9c - Jared Wein - Bug 945191 - Australis' combined buttons show wrong context menu options when they are in the toolbar. r=Gijs, DONTBUILD
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  1362. # [11:29] <Ms2ger> Anyone who can deal with spam on bmo?
  1363. # [11:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: -> #it
  1364. # [11:33] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: if it was about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=user_activity.html&action=run&from=-14d&who=vikasb6v%40gmail.com
  1365. # [11:33] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> then this account is now disabled
  1366. # [11:33] <Gijs> heh
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  1374. # [11:45] <pnkfelix> where can I see the software versions curently used by the try builders? In particular OS X? I'm getting problems with the moz.build file from python
  1375. # [11:45] <pnkfelix> (but configure seems to think that my version of python *is* sufficiently up-to-date)
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  1377. # [11:46] <padenot> pnkfelix: have you tried to just do "./mach bootstrap" ?
  1378. # [11:46] <padenot> it should install you the right version of python
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  1380. # [11:46] <pnkfelix> padenot: … via brew?
  1381. # [11:46] <padenot> if you have brew, yes
  1382. # [11:47] <pnkfelix> padenot: ok I'll look into that
  1383. # [11:47] <padenot> it tries to be smart about the package manager you have
  1384. # [11:47] <pnkfelix> (still seems bad that configure thinks my python version is sufficiently new even though python reports "["AttributeError: 'unicode' object has no attribute 'copy'\n"]"
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  1386. # [11:47] <pnkfelix> padenot: but i will try `mach bootstrap`
  1387. # [11:48] <padenot> I have python 2.7.2, and it works, here, on my macbook
  1388. # [11:48] <pnkfelix> hmm, that is the version I have too...
  1389. # [11:50] <padenot> ha, so you miss some python packages
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  1391. # [11:52] <pnkfelix> padenot: (hmm, maybe I need to upgrade my version of Xcode. this goes back to my question of how to see what the try builder is using…)
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  1393. # [11:55] <Ms2ger> pnkfelix, got a link to the try run?
  1394. # [11:56] <pnkfelix> Ms2ger: ? Its not that the try build is failing
  1395. # [11:56] <pnkfelix> Ms2ger: its that my local build is failing
  1396. # [11:57] <Ms2ger> Ah
  1397. # [11:57] <pnkfelix> Ms2ger: (a local build of the js shell )
  1398. # [11:57] <Ms2ger> What's the error?
  1399. # [11:58] <pnkfelix> https://gist.github.com/pnkfelix/7785738
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  1401. # [11:58] <pnkfelix> hmm, wait
  1402. # [11:59] <pnkfelix> that's not a correct configure invocation anyway
  1403. # [11:59] <pnkfelix> (its not running js/src/configure) … I was misusing my driver script
  1404. # [11:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm Gijs seems something is wrong on central
  1405. # [12:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> so far no builds for your push
  1406. # [12:00] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: err, what?
  1407. # [12:00] <Gijs> That's fine.
  1408. # [12:00] <Gijs> I pushed with DONTBUILD
  1409. # [12:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah!
  1410. # [12:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> that was hiding :)
  1411. # [12:00] <Gijs> the two csets are exact opposites, I just needed to have the right commit message in there so we get it backed out on holly
  1412. # [12:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah thats fine
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  1414. # [12:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> don't saw this don't build :)
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  1418. # [12:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d791c9be9a6e - Jon Coppeard - Bug 945844 - Fix build error when compiling with GGC enabled and initialise store buffer reentry check member r=sfink
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  1442. # [12:21] <pnkfelix> padenot: Ms2ger: yeah, sorry about the noise earlier, user error.
  1443. # [12:21] <Ms2ger> Good :)
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  1447. # [12:25] <kanru> what's the best way to climbing up a frameLoader tree?
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  1452. # [12:28] <Ms2ger> Crampons
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  1454. # [12:29] <glazou> LOL
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  1456. # [12:31] <nigelb> dammit, someone already submitted it to qdb.
  1457. # [12:31] * nigelb only noticed after submitting
  1458. # [12:31] <kanru> o_O
  1459. # [12:32] <Ms2ger> Hah
  1460. # [12:32] <Ms2ger> That someone wrote Msg2ger, though
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  1462. # [12:33] <nigelb> I copy & pasted!
  1463. # [12:33] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> woot, finally a reproducible crash again \o/
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  1468. # [12:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b947d59fe3c1 - Victor Porof - Bug 945482 - Intermittent browser_dbg_variables-view-popup-08.js | Should have two frames. - Got 0, expected 2 | Test timed out | Found a tab after previous test timed
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  1470. # [12:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17aacd34982c - Felix S. Klock II - Bug 941672: assert thread state init'ed upon seeing Exclusive context (r=shu).
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  1475. # [12:47] <daleharvey> I dont think this is ever gonna be solved, but sure would love it if we didnt have trailing whitespace all over the place
  1476. # [12:48] <daleharvey> write patch -> realise my editor just make a 10 line diff more than a hundred lines, git reset :(
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  1488. # [12:55] <Gijs> daleharvey: can your editor not be taught not to touch whitespace in lines you don't already touch?
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  1502. # [12:55] <Gijs> in the meantime, does anyone know anything about loadOverlay() calls calling persisted attributes to be re-applied?
  1503. # [12:56] <Gijs> s/calling/causing/
  1504. # [12:56] <Gijs> I'm running into this in a bug we're tracking for 27 and I'm *sure* I read something about this somewhere, but can't for the life of me remember where and/or how to workaround and/or what the cause is.
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  1564. # [13:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8f4eaade578e - Jacek Caban - Bug 848491 - Fixed cross compilation with mingw.
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  1589. # [13:53] <Gijs> Or do I have to write my own while loop of sorts? :)
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  1597. # [14:00] <ttaubert> Gijs: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/public/nsContentUtils.h#219
  1598. # [14:00] <@bz_sleep> Gijs: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/public/nsContentUtils.h#207
  1599. # [14:01] <@bz_sleep> ttaubert beat me. ;)
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  1601. # [14:01] <Gijs> ... that was interesting
  1602. # [14:01] <ttaubert> bz: heh :)
  1603. # [14:01] <Gijs> different links, too!
  1604. # [14:01] <@bz> well
  1605. # [14:01] <ttaubert> no it's the same method
  1606. # [14:01] <@bz> I linked to the docs before the method
  1607. # [14:01] <@bz> he linked to the method
  1608. # [14:01] <ttaubert> :)
  1609. # [14:01] <Gijs> bz: now that you're here anyway... how hard is it to fix the XUL loadOverlay stuff to not reapply persisted things everywhere
  1610. # [14:01] <@bz> I have no idea offhand
  1611. # [14:01] <Gijs> OK :)
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  1615. # [14:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea8351e6c6b6 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 939510. nsInputStreamChannel should null out mContentStream when it's done loading it, so that long streams can die as needed. r=jduell
  1616. # [14:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9b2e2bea10b - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 942631 part 3. Preserve the wrapper when caching things in its slots if we're an nsWrapperCache. r=peterv
  1617. # [14:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07fa802b9501 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 942631 part 1. Add support for a [Cached] WebIDL annotation. r=peterv
  1618. # [14:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7878aac67f0 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 942631 part 4. Allow WebIDL attributes to return a sequence if it's cached. r=peterv
  1619. # [14:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/164610ef6ffb - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 942648. When we're changing an option's "selected" attribute, don't allow our mIsSelected state to get out of sync with its actual selected state. r=sicking
  1620. # [14:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb8aa9f83968 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 942631 part 7. Move INSTANCE_RESERVED_SLOTS into the C++, so it's closer to the things it depends on. r=peterv
  1621. # [14:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f96a77402a26 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 942631 part 6. Fix performance regression in the imagedata getter due to using MaybeWrapValue on a non-DOM object. r=peterv
  1622. # [14:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/795879f6f204 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 942631 part 2. Make getters for cached properties check and set the reserved slot as needed. r=peterv
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  1679. # [14:34] <nicklebedev> guys, could you let me know whether there is good way of conversion from nsIntPoint to ScreenIntPoint?
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  1691. # [14:38] <jimm> anyone know what test suite gtests run under?
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  1699. # [14:42] <@ted> jimm: make check last i knew
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  1701. # [14:42] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/gtest/Makefile.in#24
  1702. # [14:43] <jimm> ah cool, thx ted
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  1709. # [14:48] <h4writer> Can somebody help me out to figure out if the windows bustage is my fault or not in this try push: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=956fd2ebc1d3
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  1713. # [14:49] <jimm> ted: the failure output from these tests seems pretty lousy
  1714. # [14:49] <@ted> jimm: you want to talk to benwa
  1715. # [14:49] <@ted> i've never run them
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  1721. # [14:52] <jimm> h4writer: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3715847
  1722. # [14:52] <jimm> line 48 is LONG Bias
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  1727. # [14:53] <h4writer> jimm: the funny part is that I didn't change a thing in that file and that the revision I based it on, is green?
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  1731. # [14:54] <jimm> appears you changed something that caused bustage in the unified src, not sure what
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  1737. # [14:56] <h4writer> Oh joy. So you think it has high probability it is indeed something in my patches. Only the error reporting is pointing to the wrong file totally
  1738. # [14:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b2b20bc6576a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 946178 - Disable test_outgoing_radio_off.js to see if it fixes Mnw and lets us reopen the CLOSED TREE.
  1739. # [14:57] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty ^
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  1743. # [14:57] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: cool
  1744. # [14:58] <RyanVM> nothign to do but hurry up and wait I guess
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  1746. # [14:58] <RyanVM> I think the people that are able to look at this are MV/TPE
  1747. # [14:59] <h4writer> jimm: could it be it needs a clobber? Since I added a few files to moz.build (only strange that windows would be the only platform protesting)
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  1749. # [14:59] <RyanVM> h4writer: try builds are always clobbers
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  1752. # [15:00] <h4writer> RyanVM: oh, thanks for the information
  1753. # [15:00] * h4writer is again without any clue
  1754. # [15:00] <RyanVM> unified builds make for all kinds of fun bustage
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  1756. # [15:00] <RyanVM> trying asking ehsan
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  1759. # [15:01] <RyanVM> looks like a missing undef to me
  1760. # [15:01] <RyanVM> and the unified chunking does 16 files
  1761. # [15:01] <RyanVM> so if you added something, you might have pushed a file from one chunk to another
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  1763. # [15:02] <RyanVM> h4writer: ^
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  1765. # [15:02] <h4writer> missing undef?
  1766. # [15:03] <RyanVM> h4writer: actually, I don't think that's your issue
  1767. # [15:03] <RyanVM> this was pushed on a recent m-c/inbound?
  1768. # [15:03] <RyanVM> yeah, sure enough
  1769. # [15:03] <RyanVM> unified builds are disabled on debug
  1770. # [15:04] <RyanVM> and you can see in the debug log that it's still dying the same way
  1771. # [15:04] <h4writer> RyanVM: on top of 6af8d9b1ab51
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  1776. # [15:04] <RyanVM> h4writer: why so old a rev?
  1777. # [15:05] <RyanVM> h4writer: i would push on m-c tip first
  1778. # [15:05] <RyanVM> then worry about any bustage
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  1780. # [15:05] <RyanVM> a lot of random unified ubstage has been fixed
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  1783. # [15:05] <h4writer> RyanVM: old? It is only from last week Thursday of Friday :P
  1784. # [15:05] <RyanVM> and like I said, you'll benefit from debug builds being non-unified
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  1786. # [15:05] <RyanVM> that's pretty old in trunk terms...
  1787. # [15:05] <RyanVM> for a new feature being rapidly iterated on
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  1789. # [15:06] <RyanVM> anyway, see what it does on tip and go from there :)
  1790. # [15:06] <h4writer> RyanVM: yeah, it's one of those patches that bitrots really quick and takes some time every time to get to time. That's why I didn't do it yet
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  1792. # [15:06] <h4writer> thanks for the advice. I'll update to tip and try again
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  1794. # [15:06] <h4writer> *takes some time to update to tip
  1795. # [15:06] <RyanVM> if you're still having problems, ehsan can probably help
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  1797. # [15:07] <RyanVM> and if debug is green, it'll definitely be pointing you in the unified direction
  1798. # [15:07] <h4writer> as he isn't online atm. What are his normal hours?
  1799. # [15:07] <RyanVM> I would expect him soon
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  1801. # [15:07] <h4writer> ok thanks
  1802. # [15:07] <RyanVM> he's in TO
  1803. # [15:07] <h4writer> that's indeed soon ;)
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  1822. # [15:17] <ato> Does anyone know if there's a bug on the canvas used when navigating back/forward on Mac using a low DPI on Retina Macs?
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  1824. # [15:17] <ato> Or even what the feature is called so I can search for it in Bugzilla?
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  1826. # [15:17] <jimm> ato: there's a bug on using high-dpi images on high-dpi macs
  1827. # [15:18] <jimm> I thought that got fixed, let me see if I can find it
  1828. # [15:18] <ato> Thanks!
  1829. # [15:19] <jimm> bug 836430
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  1837. # [15:20] <jimm> ato: maybe you're looking for bug 780362
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  1910. # [16:07] <RattyAway> ASSERTION: Category manager doesn't support persistence. ... nsCategoryMaager.cpp, line 610
  1911. # [16:07] <RattyAway> Is this normal for a debug build?
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  1918. # [16:09] <RyanVM> //AHMED 12-2
  1919. # [16:10] <RyanVM> lolwut
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  1922. # [16:10] <Gijs> RyanVM: hrm?
  1923. # [16:10] <RyanVM> that's an actual comment
  1924. # [16:10] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, bidi code?
  1925. # [16:10] <RyanVM> nsHTMLDocument.cpp
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  1927. # [16:11] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: hg@1
  1928. # [16:11] <RyanVM> w00t
  1929. # [16:11] <Ms2ger> 81 //AHMED 12-2
  1930. # [16:11] <Ms2ger> 82 #include "nsBidiUtils.h"
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  1932. # [16:11] <RyanVM> i'm sure it's totally useful now
  1933. # [16:11] <Ms2ger> I knew it :)
  1934. # [16:11] <RattyAway> :P
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  1936. # [16:12] <froydnj> how else are we supposed to know when code is added?!
  1937. # [16:12] <Ms2ger> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75066
  1938. # [16:13] <Ms2ger> Landed 2001-04-12
  1939. # [16:13] <froydnj> Ms2ger: botsnack
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  1945. # [16:14] <RattyAway> froydnj: Bonsai?
  1946. # [16:15] <froydnj> RattyAway: come again?
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  1948. # [16:15] <RattyAway> "froydnj> how else are we supposed to know when code is added?!"
  1949. # [16:15] <froydnj> RattyAway: ah
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  1952. # [16:17] <RattyAway> RyanVM: what does purple mean on the tbpl? e.g. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Thunderbird-Trunk
  1953. # [16:18] <RyanVM> it means we're having aws issues and jobs are being disconnected
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  1959. # [16:19] <RattyAway> :P
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  1964. # [16:23] <nemo> does anyone have any idea why -moz-crisp-edges doesn't work anymore?
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  1966. # [16:23] <nemo> crisp-edges didn't work either
  1967. # [16:23] <nemo> nor did pixelated
  1968. # [16:23] <@bz> Should work
  1969. # [16:23] <@bz> We have tests for it, even
  1970. # [16:23] <@bz> testcase?
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  1977. # [16:27] <nemo> bz: ok. was trying an old page that had worked beautifully in the past
  1978. # [16:27] <nemo> I just added 2 new lines
  1979. # [16:27] <nemo> image-rendering: crisp-edges;
  1980. # [16:27] <nemo> image-rendering: pixelated;
  1981. # [16:27] <nemo> but apart from that
  1982. # [16:27] <nemo> bz: http://m8y.org/tmp/piggie/#scale=10&sequence=1&frames=6&switchanim=0&b1.i=0&b2.i=0&b.i=1
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  1985. # [16:28] <nemo> I get an ugly blurry piggie in my nightly :( :(
  1986. # [16:28] <nemo> linux
  1987. # [16:28] <nemo> instead of a cute pixel art piggie
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  1991. # [16:31] <nemo> bz: you see it too?
  1992. # [16:31] <nemo> bz: oh. hm. is perfect on OSX
  1993. # [16:31] <nemo> wtf
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  1998. # [16:33] <nemo> bz: ok. blurry under linux in a clean profile too
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  2004. # [16:39] <@bz> nemo: funtimes
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  2007. # [16:40] <nemo> bz: that means you're seeing it too!
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  2035. # [16:56] <SJW> dhobert: I don't think that bug 946235 is invalid
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  2044. # [16:58] <nemo> bz: so is there a workaround? I do want to show off the piggie generator
  2045. # [16:58] <nemo> erm. sorry if you're busy for poking you
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  2048. # [17:00] <@bz> nemo: no idea, sorry
  2049. # [17:00] <@bz> nemo: my "funtimes" was based on your comments
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  2051. # [17:01] <@bz> nemo: if this is a regression, file a bug with a regression range?
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  2054. # [17:02] <irving> Who is the right person to talk to about XULPrototypeCache?
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  2056. # [17:02] <nemo> bz: wheeee :-/
  2057. # [17:02] <nemo> ok :(
  2058. # [17:02] <nemo> oh bisecting. what fun
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  2062. # [17:05] <Gijs> irving: let me know if you find out... :P
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  2082. # [17:10] <WG9s> RyanVM|sheriffduty: OK I give up. what is AWS?
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  2088. # [17:13] <paul> Why do we underling the tab titles with e10s?
  2089. # [17:14] <paul> underline*
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  2094. # [17:14] <kats> WG9s: http://aws.amazon.com/
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  2098. # [17:16] <WG9s> kats: thanks.
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  2100. # [17:16] <WG9s> I thought it was probably amazon related.
  2101. # [17:16] <ferjm> Are Log.jsm messages supposed to appear in the adb logcat in b2g?
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  2104. # [17:17] <@khuey> not sure, but I don't think so
  2105. # [17:17] <fabrice> what do they use?
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  2107. # [17:18] <fabrice> the console service?
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  2110. # [17:18] <@khuey> yeah
  2111. # [17:18] <ferjm> fabrice, not sure, let me check
  2112. # [17:18] <@khuey> though it has some sort of file logging feature too
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  2182. # [17:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9906961b21af - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 946178 - Disable all tests that use setRadioEnabled to see if Mnw stops crashing on a CLOSED TREE.
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  2188. # [17:58] <nical> RyanVM|sheriffduty: hey
  2189. # [17:58] <nical> I need to do an emergency backout
  2190. # [17:58] <nical> of patch that regresses B2G a bit
  2191. # [17:58] <nical> can I do that in a closed inbound now?
  2192. # [17:59] <nical> RyanVM|sheriffduty: it's bug 893301
  2193. # [18:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bug # for the regression?
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  2195. # [18:00] <nical> RyanVM|sheriffduty: 893301
  2196. # [18:00] <nical> i have the backout patch ready
  2197. # [18:00] <j^> glandium: Could you review the build related patch of Bug 918550 today? Was hoping to get this in shortly after the vpx 1.2.0 patch
  2198. # [18:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nical: bug # for the regression?
  2199. # [18:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> or is there none?
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  2202. # [18:01] <nical> RyanVM|sheriffduty: oh, no. I just found out
  2203. # [18:01] <nical> there is none
  2204. # [18:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> k
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  2206. # [18:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> do we need new nightlies for it?
  2207. # [18:02] <nical> RyanVM|sheriffduty: it's going to be a perf regression on B2G
  2208. # [18:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> "emergency" makes me curious
  2209. # [18:02] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: if not too difficult, it would be great to have new B2G master builds
  2210. # [18:02] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: to be clear, this is disabling gralloc, so it will regress all sorts of B2G performance regression tests
  2211. # [18:03] <nical> RyanVM|sheriffduty: emergency because b2g QA is going to freak out about it
  2212. # [18:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> then push it direct to m-c and ask #releng to trigger new nightlies
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  2215. # [18:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I'm curious if QA is going to hit the RIL bustage we think is causing the current closure too
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  2218. # [18:03] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: if we push to m-c do we have to watch the tree for the rest of the day ? :)
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  2220. # [18:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I'm watching m-c
  2221. # [18:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> you're fine
  2222. # [18:04] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: also, if we only back out from m-c and not inbound, and new patches land on inbound, then the next merge might be very difficult
  2223. # [18:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I'll be merging m-c around once I'm ready to reopen the tree
  2224. # [18:05] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ah ok great
  2225. # [18:05] <@bz> m-c gets around, you say?
  2226. # [18:05] <mdas> does anyone have a .mozconfig I can use with Mavericks?
  2227. # [18:05] <mdas> I tried to use the one I had with ML on my older mbp, and I get a broken build
  2228. # [18:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nical: bjacob: let me know if you need to rebase the patch at all between inbound and m-c
  2229. # [18:05] <mdas> I tried the one on MDN but I get config errors
  2230. # [18:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> if it applies cleanly to both, we should be fine
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  2236. # [18:06] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok will do
  2237. # [18:08] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: nical says that the inbound patch applies cleanly
  2238. # [18:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bjacob: perfect
  2239. # [18:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> please land ASAP
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  2241. # [18:09] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: should we try locally that it builds first?
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  2243. # [18:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> how clean of a backout was it?
  2244. # [18:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> did you have to fix it up?
  2245. # [18:09] <nical> RyanVM|sheriffduty: didn't need to fix up
  2246. # [18:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I don't test build every qbackout I ever do
  2247. # [18:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> if it was a clean backout, then just push it
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  2251. # [18:11] <philor> if I am "LEAKING THE WORLD (at least one JSRuntime and everything alive inside it, that is) AT JS_ShutDown TIME" how am I supposed to "FIX THIS!"?
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  2253. # [18:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ask Waldo :P
  2254. # [18:12] <philor> inconveniently, in a suite that only runs on Cedar, though I suppose I could fake the same thing by disabling the first two-thirds of browser-chrome in a try push
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  2263. # [18:14] <Gijs> mdas|lunch: an almost empty mozconfig wfm... I just use the 10.8 SDK, and define an objdir, that's all.
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  2266. # [18:16] <Callek> sooo, simple thoughts are eluding me atm -- what gecko ver is trunk atm
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  2269. # [18:16] <padenot> 28?
  2270. # [18:16] <philor> Callek: the target milestone --- says 28
  2271. # [18:17] <Callek> thanks :-)
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  2291. # [18:23] <gfritzsche> poiru: have you tested running the other tests with bug 206659 applied? i'm wondering if it does break something
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  2300. # [18:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/526e12792fc8 - Benoit Jacob - Back out bug 893301 for accidentally disabling gralloc for thebes layers on B2G - no review, bustage fix on a CLOSED TREE
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  2304. # [18:25] <poiru> gfritzsche: IIRC, yeah. Should I repush to try to be sure?
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  2308. # [18:27] <gfritzsche> poiru: oh, i forgot that you already had this pushed to try earlier - never mind me then :)
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  2310. # [18:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bjacob: I asked for new B2G nightlies in #releng
  2311. # [18:27] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: thanks!
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  2314. # [18:28] <poiru> gfritzsche: Yeah, although I seem to have limited the tests to linux64.
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  2316. # [18:28] <gfritzsche> poiru: second try push was not, so it should be fine: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=a5204c63c845
  2317. # [18:29] <poiru> gfritzsche: Cool, I missed that comment.
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  2323. # [18:33] <jhopkins> jgriffin: heads-up that bug 945351 is in production (re: tbpl update needed in comment 12)
  2324. # [18:33] <jgriffin> ty
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  2326. # [18:34] <gcp> how do you get to tabs from another PC in australis?
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  2359. # [18:44] <Mathnerd314> gcp: alt-s -> tabs from other devices
  2360. # [18:44] <gcp> so basically, resurrect the old menu
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  2362. # [18:44] * gcp heads to bugzilla
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  2369. # [18:47] <Gijs> gcp: that's filed already, save yourself the trouble.
  2370. # [18:48] <gaston> proactive bugfiling
  2371. # [18:48] <gcp> Gijs: oh, in ux branch or smth>
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  2373. # [18:48] <gcp> ?
  2374. # [18:48] <gcp> hmm, this nightly is 2 days out of date
  2375. # [18:48] <Gijs> gcp: hrm, or maybe not... I'm sure I've seen that brought up, but I don't find the bug in my email archive right now
  2376. # [18:48] <gcp> I'll file to be sure.
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  2388. # [18:52] <jet> Enn: ping re: bug 911546
  2389. # [18:56] <gaston> media/libvpx/vp8/encoder/temporal_filter.c:450: undefined reference to `vp8_lookahead_depth
  2390. # [18:56] <gaston> hidden symbol `vp8_regular_quantize_b_sse4' isn't defined
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  2392. # [18:56] <gaston> urgh. I knew the libvpx update 5 days before an uplift was going to bite me hard
  2393. # [18:56] <froydnj> gaston: using --disable-webrtc?
  2394. # [18:56] <gaston> yes
  2395. # [18:56] <froydnj> gaston: don't =/
  2396. # [18:57] <gaston> well, webrtc isnt ready for public consumption on bsd
  2397. # [18:57] <gaston> so disable-webrtc is the only way atm
  2398. # [18:57] <froydnj> gaston: bug 945917 if you are interested
  2399. # [18:57] <gaston> thx
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  2418. # [19:05] <@bz> huh
  2419. # [19:05] <@bz> how come we have a tracking-firefox29 flag already?
  2420. # [19:05] <@bsmedberg> we're prepared!
  2421. # [19:05] <@bz> heh
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  2424. # [19:06] <@gavin> bz: because australis
  2425. # [19:06] <@bz> I see
  2426. # [19:07] <@gavin> it's not making the merge so people wanted the ability to track early
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  2428. # [19:07] <@bz> and often
  2429. # [19:07] <@bz> ok
  2430. # [19:07] * @bz wonders whether it's worth using a holly build for the week it'll be relevant
  2431. # [19:07] <@bz> or are we maintaining holly after the branchpoint?
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  2433. # [19:08] <@gavin> we will probably
  2434. # [19:08] <@gavin> until we're sure we can make an aurora merge
  2435. # [19:08] <@bz> ok
  2436. # [19:08] <@bz> Is it better for me to use that, or m-c with the titlebar pref flipped?
  2437. # [19:09] <@bz> in terms of testing useful things?
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  2440. # [19:10] <Gijs> bz: I'd prefer you to be on Nightly with the pref... I'm sure there'll be enough people who are so OMGchange that they won't use anything but holly, so if you're happy on Australis + titlebar pref, I think that's likely to be more useful.
  2441. # [19:11] <@bz> Yeah, the main issue I've had so far is the moving windows issue, I think
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  2443. # [19:11] <@bz> And I guess tabs on top, but I'm not sure how much I care about that at this point
  2444. # [19:11] <Gijs> yeah... I saw that... does that still happen if you have the pref flipped?
  2445. # [19:11] <catlee> ehsan: hey, can we modify the mozconfigs so that nightly builds do non-unified builds?
  2446. # [19:11] <@bz> no, flipping the pref makes it work fine
  2447. # [19:11] <Gijs> right, OK, that's what I would have expected
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  2453. # [19:12] * Gijs isn't really sure if/how we can fix that bug :\
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  2458. # [19:13] <@bz> I'm not either
  2459. # [19:13] <@bz> I mean, "e10s"
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  2463. # [19:14] <Gijs> well, sure
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  2465. # [19:14] * Gijs prods mstange about that bug and hopes that goes somewhere :)
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  2469. # [19:15] <mstange> Gijs: sorry, which bug?
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  2471. # [19:16] <Gijs> mstange: bug 944836
  2472. # [19:16] <Gijs> I needinfo'd you :)
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  2475. # [19:16] <mstange> oh, I hadn't seen that email yet
  2476. # [19:16] * Gijs doesn't know if our solution here can be similar to the Windows Aero Snap stuff or not :)
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  2481. # [19:17] <mdas> Gijs: sorry, I just saw your response. Mind pastebining your mozconfig?
  2482. # [19:18] <mstange> Gijs: how does the Aero Snap stuff work?
  2483. # [19:18] <mdas> I'm not sure what's wrong with my config or setup
  2484. # [19:18] <Gijs> mstange: remember how we had these weird spammy mouse events causing us to check whether some coordinate was in the titlebar or not on Windows?
  2485. # [19:18] * pmoore|away is now known as pmoore
  2486. # [19:19] <mstange> Gijs: yes
  2487. # [19:19] <Gijs> mstange: so, that code :)
  2488. # [19:19] <mstange> Gijs: OK, but we're already doing something very similar. The events fire on the main thread, and when that's blocked, we can't update movability.
  2489. # [19:20] <Gijs> hrm
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  2493. # [19:20] <@smaug> mstange: did you upload the svg scrolling bug patches to try?
  2494. # [19:21] * @smaug could test
  2495. # [19:21] <mstange> smaug: not yet, thanks for the reminder
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  2509. # [19:27] <mstange> smaug: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=65d9e177f916
  2510. # [19:27] <@smaug> thanks
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  2520. # [19:31] <@ehsan> catlee: yes sure, but why?
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  2524. # [19:32] <@ehsan> padenot: wow, the web audio spec looks like a spec now!
  2525. # [19:33] <catlee> ehsan: to act as our regular non-unified build
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  2528. # [19:34] <@ehsan> catlee: oh, as of yesterday or the day before we build debug builds in non-unified
  2529. # [19:34] <catlee> yeah, but ongoing
  2530. # [19:35] <catlee> as a fix to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=942167
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  2532. # [19:35] <padenot> ehsan: it took a couple plane trips and jetlag recovery days :-)
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  2534. # [19:35] <catlee> I'm assuming we want them re-enabled on debug builds at some point
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  2536. # [19:36] <@ehsan> catlee: I don't think that's good enough as a fix to that bug, because it will make it hard/impossible to detect the offending patch and back it out immediately
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  2539. # [19:36] <@ehsan> (and yes we do want to make debug builds unified when we have non-unified builds)
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  2541. # [19:36] <catlee> ehsan: that bug is about doing once per day
  2542. # [19:36] <@ehsan> padenot: nice!
  2543. # [19:36] <@ehsan> catlee: o_O
  2544. # [19:36] <@ehsan> catlee: oh I see
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  2546. # [19:37] <@ehsan> catlee: ok so the thing that happened is that people are breaking those builds much more frequently than we were hoping for
  2547. # [19:37] <@ehsan> I've fixed at least 15 of those bustages in the past few days
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  2549. # [19:37] <@ehsan> I should have updated that bug... sorry
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  2554. # [19:39] <catlee> ehsan: so what's the plan?
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  2556. # [19:40] <@ehsan> catlee: in my ideal worlds, we would get non-unified builds per check-in
  2557. # [19:40] <@ehsan> not sure if that's acceptable or not
  2558. # [19:40] <catlee> kind of defeats the purpose of having fast builds doesn't it?
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  2560. # [19:41] <@khuey|on-the-ground> fast builds are nice for developers
  2561. # [19:41] <@ehsan> catlee: not sure why you think that... building those won't make unified builds slower
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  2563. # [19:41] <catlee> it doubles the load on the build farm
  2564. # [19:42] <@ehsan> true, which is why I said I don't know if that's acceptable
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  2567. # [19:42] <@ehsan> I mean
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  2569. # [19:42] <@khuey|on-the-ground> so, is the tree going to reopen anytime soon?
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  2572. # [19:42] <@ehsan> we will probably be fine with periodic builds, as long as they're rather frequent
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  2574. # [19:43] <froydnj> not until you are khuey|disconnected
  2575. # [19:43] <@ehsan> so that we can have an easier time finding the offending patch when something breaks
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  2578. # [19:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> khuey|on-the-ground: there's a push on m-c right now seeing if we can disable our way to victory
  2579. # [19:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> we haven't been able to so far
  2580. # [19:44] <@khuey|on-the-ground> RyanVM|sheriffduty: can we backout our way to victory?
  2581. # [19:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> if we could, we would ;)
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  2583. # [19:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> read the bug, seriously
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  2585. # [19:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> not going to rehash everything we've been doing for the last 6 hours
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  2587. # [19:45] <@khuey|on-the-ground> I read the bug
  2588. # [19:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> then you know what I know
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  2592. # [19:45] <@khuey|on-the-ground> RyanVM|sheriffduty: did we back out hte gaia update this started on?
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  2594. # [19:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it wasn't a gaia update
  2595. # [19:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> (as the bug says)
  2596. # [19:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it started at the same time on all trees
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  2598. # [19:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> previously-good revs also reproduce when retriggering the build
  2599. # [19:46] <@khuey|on-the-ground> ah
  2600. # [19:46] <@khuey|on-the-ground> fun
  2601. # [19:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> (as the bug says)
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  2603. # [19:46] <@khuey|on-the-ground> ah, comment 17
  2604. # [19:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> we're about 10 minutes from knowing if the disabling worked
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  2608. # [19:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> khuey|on-the-ground: what we really need right now is someone who can reproduce it locally and can debug
  2609. # [19:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> overholt is trying
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  2611. # [19:49] <overholt> if anyone can kick off an emulator build, that'd help
  2612. # [19:49] <overholt> I'm having 'repo' issues
  2613. # [19:50] <@ehsan> overholt: do you just need the build?
  2614. # [19:50] <overholt> ehsan, well, what I really wanted was to know if this is specific to the build machines
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  2616. # [19:51] <@ehsan> overholt: have you tried downloading the build and running the test on it?
  2617. # [19:51] <overholt> ehsan, no
  2618. # [19:51] <overholt> will do
  2619. # [19:51] <@ehsan> k
  2620. # [19:51] <@ehsan> I can do a build for you if you want either way
  2621. # [19:51] <overholt> that'd be cool
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  2623. # [19:51] <@ehsan> ics or jb?
  2624. # [19:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Mnw is still red
  2625. # [19:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ics
  2626. # [19:52] <overholt> :(
  2627. # [19:52] <@ehsan> k
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  2630. # [19:52] <@ehsan> does anyone remember what I should put in .userconfig to get marionette support?
  2631. # [19:53] <@khuey|on-the-ground> it's a shame the logs don't have anything useful about the crash
  2632. # [19:53] <overholt> ahal is working on getting better logs in this case
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  2635. # [19:55] <@ehsan> ahal: do you know what I should put in .userconfig for marionette?
  2636. # [19:55] <@ehsan> mdas: ^
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  2640. # [19:56] <mdas> ehsan: is .userconfig related to .mozconfig? If so, ENABLE_MARIONETTE=1 is all you need
  2641. # [19:56] <mdas> once you build with that, you launch firefox with the --marionette argument
  2642. # [19:56] <mdas> then marionette will be running on port 2828
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  2644. # [19:57] <@ehsan> mdas: hmm, .userconfig is the build config file for b2g
  2645. # [19:57] <@ehsan> ENABLE_MARIONETTE works for normal builds
  2646. # [19:57] <@ehsan> hmm
  2647. # [19:57] <@ehsan> I guess I can grep my way to victory...
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  2651. # [19:58] <@ehsan> hmm
  2652. # [19:59] <@ehsan> 3 if [ "$TARGET_BUILD_VARIANT" != "user" ] ; then
  2653. # [19:59] <@ehsan> 4 ENABLE_MARIONETTE=1
  2654. # [19:59] <@ehsan> 5 ENABLE_TESTS=1
  2655. # [19:59] <@ehsan> 6 fi
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  2657. # [19:59] <@ehsan> not sure what TARGET_BUILD_VARIANT is...
  2658. # [19:59] <@ehsan> :q
  2659. # [19:59] <mdas> ehsan: if you're building b2g and need marionette, you should set VARIANT=eng, and it will set up all the things you need for marionette. I don't konw what 'all the things are' other than setting ENABLE_MARIONETTE though
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  2662. # [20:00] <@ehsan> ok thanks
  2663. # [20:00] <@ehsan> that should be good enough for me
  2664. # [20:00] <mdas> 'VARIANT=eng ./build.sh' would do the trick
  2665. # [20:00] <mdas> cool
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  2667. # [20:00] <@ehsan> mdas: thanks!
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  2669. # [20:01] <@ehsan> overholt: building now
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  2671. # [20:03] <mwu> eng is the default variant anyway
  2672. # [20:04] <@ehsan> even better!
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  2676. # [20:05] <jld> I think this answers the question I hadn't asked yet about whether TBPL builds are eng.
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  2685. # [20:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jld: we do both on tbpl
  2686. # [20:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> well, for device images
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  2688. # [20:10] <irving> smaug: ping
  2689. # [20:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but yeah, you could check the build log to confirm
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  2694. # [20:12] <@smaug> irving: pong
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  2696. # [20:13] <irving> smaug: i have some questions about XULPrototypeCache, and bsmedberg redirected me to you
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  2700. # [20:13] * @smaug starts to page in xul proto stuff
  2701. # [20:13] <irving> bug 810149
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  2705. # [20:14] <catlee-mtg> ehsan: how hard is it to find an offending patch that breaks unified builds?
  2706. # [20:14] * baku|away is now known as baku
  2707. # [20:14] <irving> smaug: basically, because add-on js, xul, xbl etc. may be cached, we need to recursive scan all add-ons to detect changes and flush the cache
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  2710. # [20:15] <@smaug> right
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  2713. # [20:16] <irving> smaug: i'm looking into whether it's possible to exclude add-on content from the on-disk StartupCache, some of it enters indirectly through XULPrototypeCache
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  2716. # [20:16] <@smaug> (installing restartless addon tends to increase CC graph size, IIRC because of flushing the cache, so stuff can't be optimized out from the CC graph anymore)
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  2721. # [20:17] <irving> I suspect we don't actually need to flush the cache when we install a restartless add-on
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  2723. # [20:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: m-c is still fx28
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  2725. # [20:18] <mccr8> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ah right, I forgot the 29 flags appeared before we had 29 on trunk, for some reason. ;)
  2726. # [20:18] <jld> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I should've been more specific -- I meant builds that are booted and used to run tests.
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  2729. # [20:19] <@smaug> irving: I don't think I understand what you want to exclude
  2730. # [20:19] <@smaug> and in which case
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  2735. # [20:20] <mccr8> I mean, in practice this isn't going to be enabled when 28 goes to Aurora so not a big deal.
  2736. # [20:21] <@ehsan> catlee-afk: hmm, it really depends on the bustage, sometimes it can be non-trivial
  2737. # [20:21] <irving> smaug: some add-ons (mostly AV toolbars and search hijackers, but some others) are updated by third party code rather than our add-on manager, this makes the cached copy stale
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  2739. # [20:22] <@smaug> irving: right. So we need to check if such addon has been updated
  2740. # [20:22] <irving> smaug: one possible way to avoid having the cache go stale, is to not cache anything we load out of an add-on location
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  2743. # [20:24] <@smaug> oh, but that would make startup slower
  2744. # [20:24] <irving> smaug: maybe - we'd do telemetry on that
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  2748. # [20:25] <@smaug> irving: do we need to support restartless addons here
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  2750. # [20:26] <@smaug> or is this only about those addons which are installed by some external software?
  2751. # [20:26] <@smaug> in which case, I assume, the addon requires restart
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  2754. # [20:27] <irving> smaug: there's currently no difference in how this part of the code handles restartless, but another approach is to change to only scanning add-ons we know are externally installed
  2755. # [20:28] <irving> some of the externally installed have lots of files/directories, so we won't win as much as we'd like on reducing scan time
  2756. # [20:28] <@smaug> irving: ok, so would it be enough to just not ever write the XUL cache for those addons
  2757. # [20:28] <@smaug> so that we'd try to always load the files from non-cache when browser starts
  2758. # [20:29] <@smaug> basically filter out stuff in nsXULPrototypeCache::WritePrototype
  2759. # [20:29] <irving> smaug: we don't currently have the 'externally installed' flag during normal startup, so there's a bit more work involved to support that
  2760. # [20:29] <@ehsan> overholt: my build is finished
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  2765. # [20:30] <@smaug> irving: but we certainly don't want to disable the cache for normal addons
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  2767. # [20:31] <irving> smaug: there's nothing inside the URI (yet) other than the file path that would indicate that the file belongs to an add-on, right?
  2768. # [20:31] <irving> I wonder if there's a convenient way we could flag that...
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  2775. # [20:34] <overholt> ehsan, great so now to try to figure out the gecko crash that mwu is seeing in #b2g
  2776. # [20:35] * julienw is now known as julienw_afk
  2777. # [20:35] <@ehsan> overholt: oh, can mwu reproduce?
  2778. # [20:35] <overholt> ehsan, looks like it
  2779. # [20:35] <@ehsan> k
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  2781. # [20:35] <@ehsan> overholt: so do I need to do anything else?
  2782. # [20:35] <mwu> I can repro using the binaries
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  2784. # [20:35] <@ehsan> \o/
  2785. # [20:35] <overholt> let's chat in #b2g
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  2787. # [20:36] <@smaug> irving: actually, adding some filter to nsXULPrototypeCache::GetOutputStream might be better
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  2789. # [20:37] <@smaug> irving: do we not have any knowledge about addons installed using Firefox?
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  2791. # [20:38] <irving> smaug: we have it, but it's currently in the big extensions database that we try to avoid loading at startup
  2792. # [20:38] <@smaug> ah
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  2888. # [21:29] <mcsmurf> is there a special IRC channel which is (also) about html5 <audio>/<video> development? I have a question about it
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  2891. # [21:30] <@gavin> mcsmurf: there is #media
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  2893. # [21:30] <mcsmurf> ok, sounds good enough ;)
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  2913. # [21:39] <SJW> is it right, that gecko supports only shapes with a blur <=300px?
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  2925. # [21:48] <@roc> yeah we clamp to 300px
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  2930. # [21:50] <SJW> roc: But shouldn't we show a note/warning in the console if a value >300px is used?
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  2932. # [21:50] <@roc> I suppose we could
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  2957. # [22:04] <SJW> roc: Is there already a bug filled? I couldn't found anything.
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  2969. # [22:10] <gwagner> nthomas: ping
  2970. # [22:10] <nthomas> gwagner: pong
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  2972. # [22:11] <gwagner> nthomas: hey! can you help out on the 'pine' tree again? seems like the blob bug came back
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  2975. # [22:11] <gwagner> nthomas: you fixed bug 945012
  2976. # [22:11] <nthomas> is that from the bump to 1.0.2b ?
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  2978. # [22:12] <gwagner> yes
  2979. # [22:12] <jimm> do we have any wiki pages on moz.build files/format?
  2980. # [22:12] <gwagner> now its Unable to install blobuploader==1.0.2b!
  2981. # [22:12] <nthomas> ok, gimme a sec
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  2983. # [22:12] <gwagner> thx!
  2984. # [22:12] <@khuey|in-the-sky> /win 32
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  2988. # [22:13] <zzzzz> khuey|in-the-sky: got Diamonds ?
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  2992. # [22:14] <@khuey|in-the-sky> zzzzz: nope :-(
  2993. # [22:15] <jimm> oh neat, it's kinda sorta python script
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  2996. # [22:17] <@roc> SJW: I don't think there is
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  2999. # [22:18] <nthomas> gwagner: done
  3000. # [22:19] <gwagner> nthomas++
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  3002. # [22:19] <ahal> jimm: you can run ./mach build-docs to build them locally
  3003. # [22:20] <ahal> probably on mdn somewhere too
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  3006. # [22:20] <Ms2ger> khuey|in-the-sky, KSD isn't a drug anyway
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  3009. # [22:21] <SJW> roc: I filled bug 946430
  3010. # [22:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nthomas: gwagner: it's hitting aurora too
  3011. # [22:22] <nthomas> uh, that's odd
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  3013. # [22:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=31453540&tree=Mozilla-Aurora
  3014. # [22:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and a lot more like it
  3015. # [22:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nthomas: they're all within a couple minutes of each other
  3016. # [22:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> retrigger?
  3017. # [22:23] <nthomas> probably just that the change on mozharness default got merged to production just now
  3018. # [22:23] <nthomas> so yeah, retrigger
  3019. # [22:23] <nthomas> sorry about that
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  3034. # [22:29] <gkw> KaiRo: ping
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  3038. # [22:30] <nthomas> RyanVM|sheriffduty: :-) at star message
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  3040. # [22:30] <nthomas> nthomas sez send me cupcakes
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  3042. # [22:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> hah
  3043. # [22:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i like to put fun ones in every now and then just to see who notices
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  3047. # [22:31] <nemo> nrc: oups. sorry. that wasn't supposed to be message. anyway. hi!
  3048. # [22:32] <nemo> nrc: pleeeease no more putting my e-mail address in bug comments. kthx :-p also. yeah. still broken.
  3049. # [22:32] <nrc> nemo: hi
  3050. # [22:32] <nemo> nrc: wondering if maybe it isn't your fault, despite the regression range?
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  3053. # [22:33] * markh didn't think we use libpthread on Windows...
  3054. # [22:33] <markh> do we?
  3055. # [22:33] <nrc> nemo: sure, sorry about that. I expect it is - the bug you are seeing is exactly the one I was trying to fix for OMTC and I had to shake up how we deal with that stuff for all users, so the fact that it broke main thread compositing is kind of expected
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  3057. # [22:33] <nrc> nemo: the only thing that is surprising is that I can't repro myself
  3058. # [22:34] <@smaug> hmm, is the latest windows nightly already using omtc?
  3059. # [22:34] <nrc> nemo: and annoying from the pov of trying to fix it
  3060. # [22:34] <nrc> smaug: yes
  3061. # [22:34] <nrc> oh, actually not sure if it made the uplift
  3062. # [22:34] <nrc> smaug: you can check in about:support
  3063. # [22:34] <zzzzz> no, not on nightly yet
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  3067. # [22:35] <@smaug> nrc: was that just a pref change
  3068. # [22:35] <nrc> smaug: yes
  3069. # [22:35] <@smaug> so will the next nightly actually have better support somehow ?
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  3071. # [22:36] <nrc> smaug: there are a few bug fixes I landed yesterday. ANything in particular?
  3072. # [22:36] <dholbert> nrc / nemo, I can mark those comments as private if you like
  3073. # [22:36] <dholbert> (with nemo's email address)
  3074. # [22:37] <dholbert> (maybe nrc can too?)
  3075. # [22:37] <@smaug> was just curious if I should switch the pref to true... but I guess I should, since it is after all only my windows laptop
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  3077. # [22:38] * @smaug can't wait to get omtc to linux
  3078. # [22:38] <nrc> dholbert: I don't think I can (I can't see how, in any case). Would be cool if you could - bug 944087
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  3080. # [22:38] <dholbert> nrc, sure
  3081. # [22:39] <nrc> smaug: I think you can, the only thing that might not have made it into the nightly is a broken menu button
  3082. # [22:39] <@smaug> nrc: does "windowLayerManagerRemote: true" in about:support mean omtc is working
  3083. # [22:39] <nrc> smaug: we also turned on OMTC for lInux if you force HWA
  3084. # [22:39] <nrc> smaug: no
  3085. # [22:39] <mattwoodrow> nrc: it doesn't?
  3086. # [22:39] <zzzzz> I have had it 'on' all on win7 and honestly, i've seen no difference in perf and no issues yet
  3087. # [22:40] <@smaug> how do I know if omtc is working?
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  3089. # [22:40] <nrc> smaug: oh it might, look at 'GPU Accelerated Windows' if there is 'omtc' in brackets, then you have it
  3090. # [22:40] <dholbert> nrc / nemo, fixed
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  3092. # [22:40] <@smaug> ah, it is there
  3093. # [22:41] <nrc> dholbert: thanks!
  3094. # [22:41] <@smaug> ok, thanks
  3095. # [22:41] <zzzzz> about:support will show OMTC in the graphics area
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  3097. # [22:41] <@smaug> what does windowLayerManagerRemote then mean?
  3098. # [22:41] <nrc> I don't know, mattwoodrow ^
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  3101. # [22:42] <mattwoodrow> nrc: It means the same thing
  3102. # [22:42] <nrc> smaug ^
  3103. # [22:42] <mattwoodrow> windowLayerManagerRemote got added to expose a boolean to the reftest harness, instead of the string
  3104. # [22:42] <@smaug> k, thanks
  3105. # [22:42] <nrc> heh, that seems unnecessary then
  3106. # [22:42] <nrc> ah, ok
  3107. # [22:43] <mattwoodrow> and we just dump our list of properties into about:support
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  3109. # [22:43] <@smaug> hmm, do I just think, or does the browser feel a lot more responsive
  3110. # [22:43] <zzzzz> as I said above, I've not noticed any difference in Performance yet...
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  3113. # [22:44] * zzzzz doesn't really know what to expect or look for - other than something broken , and none of that yet
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  3115. # [22:45] <heftig> nrc: if I wanted to remove the requirement to set MOZ_USE_OMTC from an aurora branch build, I would have to patch gfx/thebes/gfxPlatformGtk.cpp and toolkit/xre/nsAppRunner.cpp ?
  3116. # [22:45] <nrc> I am glad nothing is broken
  3117. # [22:45] <mattwoodrow> heftig: yes
  3118. # [22:45] <heftig> okay, thanks.
  3119. # [22:45] <@smaug> zzzzz: responsivess != performance, at least in most tests
  3120. # [22:46] <heftig> optimizing for responsiveness often hurts throughput
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  3122. # [22:46] <nrc> for improvements, I would expect an improvement in general smoothness, especially under load, rather than straight perf
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  3124. # [22:47] <nrc> not sure about responsiveness, but I'm happy to take the credit for it :-)
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  3126. # [22:47] <@smaug> nrc: well, smoothness is part of responsiveness
  3127. # [22:47] <zzzzz> :)
  3128. # [22:48] <@smaug> and I think I'm seeing better behavior there
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  3131. # [22:48] <@smaug> omtc affects significantly to user-visible jank
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  3137. # [22:49] <heftig> wish i knew what's been leaking so much memory here lately
  3138. # [22:49] <@smaug> since in none-omtc case we don't composite often enough
  3139. # [22:49] <@smaug> heftig: hmm
  3140. # [22:50] <heftig> i can't get dmd to run
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  3142. # [22:50] <nrc> heftig: on linux?
  3143. # [22:50] <@smaug> heftig: cc logs?
  3144. # [22:50] <heftig> nrc: on linux
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  3146. # [22:50] <heftig> was fine a few months ago
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  3148. # [22:50] <heftig> smaug: what logs?
  3149. # [22:51] <@smaug> cycle collector logs
  3150. # [22:51] <nrc> heftig: with HWA? COuld be bug 945632
  3151. # [22:51] <@smaug> and have you installed any new addons?
  3152. # [22:51] <@smaug> heftig: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance:Leak_Tools#Cycle_collector_heap_dump
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  3155. # [22:52] <heftig> smaug: no, nothing new
  3156. # [22:52] <@smaug> heftig: I could take a look at the log.
  3157. # [22:52] <heftig> smaug: would that help, really? it's all heap-unclassified
  3158. # [22:52] <@smaug> but note, the log does contain URLs and other similar data
  3159. # [22:52] <@smaug> hmm
  3160. # [22:52] <@smaug> it might
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  3162. # [22:53] <heftig> nrc: with HWA, yes. I have no gfx/heap-textures measurement, though
  3163. # [22:53] <botond> Does anyone know if we're allowed to use the C++11 feature "local structs as template parameters" in Mozilla code? There is no entry for it in https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_CXX_in_Mozilla_code .
  3164. # [22:53] <@smaug> nrc: do we have plans to enable omtc on none-HWA windows setups?
  3165. # [22:53] <heftig> nrc: oh, but no OMTC, since it's still aurora
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  3168. # [22:54] <szatkus> how to rebuild only sytem.img file in b2g?
  3169. # [22:54] <botond> Guess not as GCC only implements them in > 4.5 :(
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  3171. # [22:55] <nemo> dholbert: thanks!
  3172. # [22:55] <dholbert> nemo, np
  3173. # [22:56] <nrc> heftig: then not that bug then
  3174. # [22:56] <nrc> smaug: yes, we have plans, not short term though - still a fair bit of work to go
  3175. # [22:56] <@smaug> k
  3176. # [22:57] <@smaug> I could imagine that would help quite a bit with low-end laptops
  3177. # [22:58] <heftig> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=937635
  3178. # [22:59] <nrc> we hope so, it is a bit more complicated with software compositing though because we do a bunch of specific optimisations which we're not sure (but probably) will apply to OMTC.
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  3193. # [23:03] <@smaug> njn: ping
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  3195. # [23:03] <aja> ewww. wassup with ui fonts? (using win32 hourly on win8 desktop)
  3196. # [23:04] <@njn> if I want to modify the mozconfig used for a try push, I need to modify the appropriate file in browser/config/mozconfigs, right?
  3197. # [23:04] <@njn> smaug: pong
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  3199. # [23:04] <@smaug> njn: you were sort of against various memory pools and such, IIRC
  3200. # [23:04] <@smaug> njn: but
  3201. # [23:04] <@njn> smaug: well, sort of
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  3204. # [23:05] <@njn> smaug: against custom allocators generally, but pool allocators (allowing mass free) can be a reasonable excpetion
  3205. # [23:05] <@smaug> I've been thinking to add something for various DOM objects
  3206. # [23:05] <@smaug> like elements
  3207. # [23:05] <@smaug> jemalloc is just a bit slow
  3208. # [23:05] <@njn> smaug: doing what, exactly?
  3209. # [23:05] <@smaug> so if we could reuse memory more often
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  3211. # [23:06] <@smaug> something like per thread (main thread) cache for commonly used small memory blocks
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  3213. # [23:06] <@smaug> not sure how well this would work
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  3215. # [23:07] <@khuey|in-the-sky> do we have jemalloc's thread cache turned on?
  3216. # [23:08] <tbsaunde> njn: re mozconfigs yes (assuming you want to do browser builds not b2g or android)
  3217. # [23:08] <@njn> smaug: I'm really skeptical about such things
  3218. # [23:08] <@njn> smaug: if you can implement and show good numbers, I'll reconsider
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  3220. # [23:08] <@njn> tbsaunde: thanks
  3221. # [23:09] <@smaug> sure, would need to gain some perf improvements before adding this kind of complexity
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  3238. # [23:16] <ekr> OK, this is awesome: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3717711
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  3246. # [23:20] <@njn> ekr: feature test macros needed?
  3247. # [23:20] <@njn> ekr: e.g.:
  3248. # [23:20] <@njn> posix_fallocate():
  3249. # [23:20] <@njn> _XOPEN_SOURCE >= 600 || _POSIX_C_SOURCE >= 200112L
  3250. # [23:20] <@njn> ?
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  3253. # [23:20] <ekr> njn. No idea. I literally just rebased to HEAD, it asked for a clobber, and I did, and bang
  3254. # [23:20] <@njn> ekr: ugh
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  3256. # [23:21] <ekr> ngn: ugh indeed
  3257. # [23:21] <@njn> ekr: and that test has _XOPEN_SOURCE 600 anyway
  3258. # [23:22] <@njn> ekr: no idea, sorry
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  3260. # [23:22] <@njn> ekr: did you actually remove the old objdir?
  3261. # [23:22] <ekr> njn: yeah, with rm
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  3263. # [23:22] <@njn> ekr: urk
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  3265. # [23:22] <ekr> yeah
  3266. # [23:22] <ekr> I guess now I get to try to bisect it
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  3271. # [23:25] <ekr> njn: a casual glance at this code suggests that it should get past this
  3272. # [23:25] <ekr> but then I am not an autoconf wizard
  3273. # [23:26] <ekr> rebuilding with saturday's tree….
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  3277. # [23:28] <@njn> ekr: your compiler didn't change recently, did it?
  3278. # [23:28] <ekr> njn: negative. And things seem cool with saturday's tree.
  3279. # [23:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e8f983b8f586 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 9906961b21af and b2b20bc6576a (bug 946178) because they didn't prevent the crashes. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE
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  3299. # [23:38] <hurley> how does one enable telemetry in a local build?
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  3301. # [23:39] <@gavin> export MOZ_TELEMETRY_REPORTING=1 perhaps?
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  3303. # [23:39] <@gavin> though sending seems to also be conditional on MOZILLA_OFFICIAL
  3304. # [23:39] <@gavin> I forget how that all works exactly
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  3306. # [23:40] <hurley> i'll give those both a shot, thanks
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  3318. # [23:46] <ekr> froydnj, njn: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/838f865fa1c7 causes compilation failures on my mac
  3319. # [23:46] <ekr> ted: ^^
  3320. # [23:46] <@njn> ekr: huh
  3321. # [23:47] <ekr> at least that's what git bisect says
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  3325. # [23:47] <nthomas> njn: re bug 936784, I think there's an ifdef MOZ_DMD missing from browser/installer/package-manifest.in. eg http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/b2g/installer/package-manifest.in#58
  3326. # [23:47] <nthomas> so try builds won't package the library
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  3330. # [23:48] <nthomas> *try desktop builds
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  3339. # [23:52] <jesup> Hmmm. Where are debug builds for releases?
  3340. # [23:53] <ekr> njn: yeah, I just confirmed this
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  3346. # [23:56] <nthomas> jesup: we don't build those at release time, but there are on-checkin builds which are stashed in YY-MM-DD-mozilla-release-debug dirs in http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/
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  3350. # [23:57] <ekr> OK, so what's the procedure here: I just updated the bug with the problem: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=933231
  3351. # [23:57] <ekr> Do I re-open?
  3352. # [23:58] <jesup> nthomas: not looking for nightlies - I want to be able to tell people who report "I'm having a problem with 25" to download a debug build so I can find out what's happening. We really, really should have debug versions of our releases built as part of the process. They don't need to be tested; they can be built later, but we need them
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  3354. # [23:58] <nthomas> I'm saying you can get a source equivalent build, just now were you might expect to
  3355. # [23:59] <nthomas> *not were
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