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  51. # [00:51] <NeilAway> whoa, unified sources reduced my objdir by 0.3GB in just one week
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  70. # [01:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9faba610e902 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 947578 - Expose Contains on nsBaseHashtable. r=froydnj
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  86. # [01:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/80115f5943ed - Douglas Crosher - Bug 946969 - Ionmonkey (ARM): correct AbsI, integer absolute value, r=mjrosenb
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  128. # [02:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c63decb4e7e - Mats Palmgren - Bug 942017 - Reftest.
  129. # [02:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe119a83b1f2 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 942017 - Only let the bullet frame affect the line height when line-height:normal. r=jfkthame
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  144. # [02:37] <deian> bz: ping
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  173. # [03:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70ec3658b113 - Brian Hackett - Bug 940635 - Don't allow Int32 conversions of both LHS and RHS in comparisons when their types are not actually known, r=shu.
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  182. # [03:37] <@bz> deian: ack
  183. # [03:45] <deian> I'm working on bug 943460; I can make sure that we don't try to set CSP for a principal that corresponds to an app once we've already set the CSP on the principa, but it seems like we should instead not be setting CSP on about:blank and about:srcdoc documents. Thoughts?
  184. # [03:45] <deian> bz: ^
  185. # [03:46] <@bz> why would you not set it on those?
  186. # [03:46] <@bz> Or rather...
  187. # [03:46] <@bz> What you _really_ want is to not set a CSP on a document whose origin aliases some other document
  188. # [03:47] <@bz> right?
  189. # [03:47] <deian> yes, that's right
  190. # [03:47] <@bz> ok
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  192. # [03:47] <@bz> That's exciting
  193. # [03:48] <@bz> because we don't track that currently
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  196. # [03:51] <deian> Right. In general we won't hit this case since CSP is set based on headers, but the issue appears in apps because we always set CSP.
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  198. # [03:51] <@bz> um
  199. # [03:52] <@bz> I don't think you can win in the current setup
  200. # [03:53] <@bz> You have two options
  201. # [03:53] <@bz> either just go ahead and not set CSP if the channel had an owner
  202. # [03:53] <@bz> and hope that channels never have an owner when they should actually have CSP
  203. # [03:53] <@bz> Or add some new API to indicate on a channel that it not only has an owner but is sharing the principal with some other document
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  205. # [03:54] <deian> Right. I think going with the 2nd appraoch will be much better.
  206. # [03:55] <@bz> ok
  207. # [03:55] <@bz> Then all you have to do is make sure extensions that create channels start using your new API....
  208. # [03:55] <deian> thanks!
  209. # [03:56] <@bz> (or just hope, I guess, since extension + apps is not a configuration that really exists)
  210. # [03:56] <@bz> man
  211. # [03:56] <@bz> is it just me, or is the devtools computed style view not showing most of the computed styles?
  212. # [03:56] <deian> yeah. Well since the b2g guys are pressing for the fix I might just add another special case in InitCSP to fix this for now and take create a new bug for the clean api.
  213. # [03:57] <deian> not just you :)
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  229. # [04:35] <fabrice|afk> deian: how long would you need for the clean api?
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  238. # [04:51] <deian> fabrice|afk: Shouldn't take long, but I have a few deadlines on the 12th so it would be easier to do it properly after that.
  239. # [04:54] <deian> fabrice|afk: I uploaded a patch for the special-casing, but if I have some spare cycles tonight/tomorrow I'll try to get the cleaner fix in.
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  267. # [05:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2bb7e7192ced - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 902003: Add Packets/Bytes-sent/received to webrtc stats API r=jesup
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  269. # [05:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/046cf0c4f858 - Byron Campen [:bwc] - Bug 946733. Simplify turn client ctx lifecycle. r=ekr, martin
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  271. # [05:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/406c304aa640 - Randell Jesup - Backout 2bb7e7192ced for landing with wrong bug number rs=backout DONTBUILD
  272. # [05:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b1230494e0b - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 908695: Add Packets/Bytes-sent/received to webrtc stats API r=jesup DONTBUILD
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  299. # [06:39] <philor> jesup bwc jib: how did you get Windows PGO-only bustage?
  300. # [06:39] <KWierso> philor: mad skillz
  301. # [06:40] <jesup> no one can bust PGO like we can
  302. # [06:40] <jesup> Actually I have no idea. Perhaps another famous PGO compiler bug
  303. # [06:40] <jesup> looking
  304. # [06:40] <philor> or needs clobber
  305. # [06:41] <jesup> I'm hoping for clobber
  306. # [06:41] <philor> or a non-clobber PGO that was faster to the bustage, and the opt is a clobber and taking its time about getting there
  307. # [06:41] * jesup dreams of a day without clobbers
  308. # [06:43] * philor dreams of a bowl of ice cream
  309. # [06:43] <philor> low expectations are met expectations
  310. # [06:43] <jib> ugh that's mine
  311. # [06:44] <jib> doesn't look like clobber
  312. # [06:47] <jib> shoot, I put wrong bug number in commit msg
  313. # [06:47] <jib> should be Bug 908695
  314. # [06:48] <KWierso> jib: jesup fixed that for you
  315. # [06:48] <jib> ah thanks jesup
  316. # [06:48] * philor considers the probable eventual backout
  317. # [06:48] <philor> all three, I suppose?
  318. # [06:48] <jesup> np; caught it when I went to mark the bugs
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  322. # [06:50] <jib> jesup: actually I think it may be clobber after all,
  323. # [06:51] <jib> 1.31 - DOMString pcid;
  324. # [06:51] <jib> 1.32 + DOMString pcid = "";
  325. # [06:51] <jesup> that's what's getting flagged, likely
  326. # [06:52] <jib> The logs talk about Optional<>: could be 'mozilla::dom::Optional<T> &mozilla::dom::Optional<T>::operator =(const mozilla::dom::Optional<T> &)'
  327. # [06:52] <jib> which tells me the DOMString webidl change didn't take
  328. # [06:52] <jib> I think
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  330. # [06:54] <philor> webidl change didn't take, on *Windows*?
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  333. # [06:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b0b527637dd - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 908695 followup, touch CLOBBER because bug 928195
  334. # [06:59] <jib> philor: thanks
  335. # [06:59] <philor> np
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  746. # [16:36] <jesup> GRRRR. Australis (I'm guessing, or sessionstore changes) is blowing away all but one of my previous session windows/tabs. Tabs are how I remember things. :-/ 950 tabs -> 44, 20 windows -> 1. And restoring sessionstore.bak doesn't help - shows all the tabs for Restore, but then only restores one window
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  750. # [16:38] <@khuey> jesup: are you getting slow script dialogs when relaunching firefox?
  751. # [16:39] <jesup> And for added fun, Australis isn't showing any sort of menu on my system (Fedora) with my old profile (I've seen better on a newer profile - the only way I can get a menu is with Alt, because I've run into the "where's the menu?" problem before - it's been years since I used keyboard shortcuts for menus
  752. # [16:39] <jesup> khuey: no
  753. # [16:40] <@khuey> ok
  754. # [16:40] <@khuey> I do, and I've noticed if I don't let it proceed the last N tabs end up as just "New tab"
  755. # [16:41] <jesup> It shows all the windows tabs, then restores one window only (and sessionstore drops from 24MB to 1MB)
  756. # [16:43] <jesup> Little did I know that two years after I diagnosed the perf issues with sessionstore (and the storage API) that we'd still be battling it. :-(
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  758. # [16:44] <jesup> With special thanks to Google and a few others for storing hundreds of KB for their pages that gets entombed in sessionstore.js
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  766. # [16:49] <Ms2ger> jesup, thanks
  767. # [16:49] <jesup> np. Perfect dup
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  769. # [16:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2aaff66026ba - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 930374 part.4 Fix new orange of test_bug448987.html on Mac since it doesn't set tab navigation setting r=smaug
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  865. # [19:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35d7b6de678b - Jonathan Watt - Backout b453362886a9 before recommitting with the correct bug commit message. r=me
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  955. # [20:56] <jesup> philor: nothing is ever your fault. Seriously.
  956. # [20:56] <jesup> philor++
  957. # [20:57] <jesup> Let me know your snailmail address sometime and if you like beer ;-)
  958. # [21:00] <@smaug> sending beer in an envelope?
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  960. # [21:01] <jesup> smaug: boxes work better unless the beer is in a pouch :-)
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  964. # [21:02] <jesup> http://www.victorybeer.com/ is my favorite
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  998. # [21:41] <philor> beer in a pouch? victory!
  999. # [21:41] <philor> turns out it's going to be kk1fff|away's fault, in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?showall=1&tree=B2g-Inbound&rev=c4f970dd2a4f
  1000. # [21:42] <philor> probably
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  1003. # [21:43] <sfink> jesup is talking crazytalk. Everything is philor's fault, even when it isn't. It's like he's the husband to all of Mozilla.
  1004. # [21:43] <sfink> and yes, I did mean for that to sound awkward
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  1012. # [21:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eaf6e83e80fe - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 946532. Fix crash on startup with basic compositor and d2d. r=
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  1015. # [21:49] <nrc> hmmph, what kind of idiot gets two reviews for a patch and then forgets to put either in the commit message?
  1016. # [21:49] <nrc> :-(
  1017. # [21:51] <sfink> clearly they were both r- and you're covering up
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  1019. # [21:53] <nrc> dammit, someone guessed my evil plan
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  1063. # [22:24] <philor> nrc: looks like you might get a chance to fix it when you reland with a new patch that doesn't burn b2g desktop
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  1065. # [22:24] <nrc> :-(
  1066. # [22:24] <nrc> lucky me
  1067. # [22:24] <philor> "missing ';' before '||'" sounds like a really unlikely explanation on the compiler's part
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  1069. # [22:25] <nrc> philor: looking...
  1070. # [22:26] <nrc> philor - easy fix - a few extra ')'s
  1071. # [22:26] <nrc> OK to push a fix?
  1072. # [22:26] <philor> claim that the followup is what had the review :)
  1073. # [22:26] <philor> or better yet, claim the reviewers deserved no credit, for not seeing unbalanced parens
  1074. # [22:27] <philor> (both of which are a yes)
  1075. # [22:27] <nrc> was a change in repsonse to a review comment - so they are blameless
  1076. # [22:27] <nrc> this time
  1077. # [22:27] <nrc> thanks, coming up ...
  1078. # [22:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/036c9a8c2025 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 940760 - Make the CSS pseudo-class :focus apply to <input type=number>, fixing B2G forms styling. r=smaug
  1079. # [22:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2510e5afb294 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 947740 - Flip the dom.forms.number pref to true for content/html/content/reftests/autofocus. r=smaug
  1080. # [22:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6f6294b469f0 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 947718 - Work around bug 946184 for Aurora. r=bz
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  1084. # [22:28] <jwatt> nrc/nrc_: you're burning
  1085. # [22:28] <jwatt> oh
  1086. # [22:28] <nrc> jwatt: I know, fix coming up...
  1087. # [22:28] <jwatt> already on it :)
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  1089. # [22:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ebc291b18b35 - Nicholas Cameron - Fix asserts which were broken in bug 946532, which was r=mattwoodrow,dvander btw
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  1095. # [22:35] <RealRaven> A quesiton, is there any way I can use the "promise" system to wait for the password manager window?
  1096. # [22:35] <RealRaven> At the moment I am using
  1097. # [22:35] <RealRaven> watcher.openWindow(null, uri, name, "chrome,centerscreen,resizable,alwaysRaised", argstring);
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  1099. # [22:36] <RealRaven> seems to return straight when it asks for the master password, which is really bad for my code
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  1111. # [22:50] <gaston> hmmmmm
  1112. # [22:51] <gaston> looks like toolkit/system/gnome/nsAlertsIconListener.cpp is unused to me, not built/linked anywhere given any option variation
  1113. # [22:52] <gaston> karl: is it a leftover from the native desktop notification removal ?
  1114. # [22:52] <gaston> the .h was removed in http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c9732200552d but the .cpp is still here
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  1116. # [22:52] <karl> gaston: yes, it should be used, but someone removed the code to use it
  1117. # [22:53] <gaston> ah i see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=782211#c157
  1118. # [22:53] <karl> gaston: apparently ubuntu have a patch to back out the problem change for thunderbird at least; i don't know whether they do that for firefox
  1119. # [22:54] <gaston> and you've never heard anything from wchen since then ?
  1120. # [22:54] <karl> no correspondence, no
  1121. # [22:55] <gaston> meh
  1122. # [22:55] <gaston> so libnotify is broken, and live with it ? :)
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  1125. # [22:58] <karl> gaston: i don't know know how easy or difficult it is to fix up things now
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  1128. # [22:59] <@njn> cpearce, kinetik: do you two know much about pulseaudio?
  1129. # [23:00] <@njn> specifically, Valgrind-on-TBPL runs (which execute |make pgo-profile-run| are doing a fork-and-exec of /usr/bin/pulseaudio. Is that expected?
  1130. # [23:00] <@njn> It's currently failing because pulseaudio doesn't appear to be installed on the build machines
  1131. # [23:00] <cpearce> njn: kinetik and padenot are the pulseaudio experts.
  1132. # [23:00] <@njn> cpearce: ok, thanks
  1133. # [23:01] <@njn> I'm also wondering if anything has changed w.r.t. this recently -- this behaviour has only been showing up in valgrind-on-tbpl builds for the past ~5 days
  1134. # [23:01] <gaston> njn: probably because of webrtc relying on pulseaudio by default ?
  1135. # [23:01] <karl> njn: i assume that is expected; i think the code tries to use pulseaudio if available, and otherwise falls back to alsa
  1136. # [23:01] <gaston> (at runtime i mean)
  1137. # [23:01] <cpearce> njn: bug 941314 could affect this? that landed on m-c on 6 Dec.
  1138. # [23:02] <@njn> cpearce: Dec 2 is the expected date
  1139. # [23:02] <@njn> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?fromchange=84a5a5800bd3&tochange=8648aa476eef is the regression range
  1140. # [23:02] <cpearce> phew.
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  1142. # [23:02] <cpearce> Not My Fault then. :)
  1143. # [23:03] <@njn> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3740131 are all the bugs in that range with "audio" in them
  1144. # [23:03] <@njn> (none had "pulse" in them)
  1145. # [23:03] <karl> njn: the pulseaudio code was enabled recently, but i thought it was before that date, within about 1 month
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  1147. # [23:03] <@njn> ok
  1148. # [23:03] <kinetik> it was enabled nov 4th
  1149. # [23:03] <karl> njn: it would be unusual for systems to have pulseaudio libraries but not the executable
  1150. # [23:04] <karl> njn: build systems need the libraries to build, but not the executable
  1151. # [23:04] <@njn> karl: I think, like with dbus-launch, just installing pulseaudio might fix it
  1152. # [23:04] <@njn> karl: though this is becoming a recurring theme :/
  1153. # [23:04] <karl> njn: yes, installing the appropriate package should make things work out
  1154. # [23:05] <@njn> karl: maybe the 3rd time it happens I'll look into a deeper fix :)
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  1156. # [23:05] <karl> haha
  1157. # [23:06] <karl> njn: is your test run expected to run audio code?
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  1159. # [23:06] <@njn> karl: I don't know, but probably not
  1160. # [23:07] <@njn> karl: it's the pgo-profile run, which runs sunspider and one or two fairly simple other pages
  1161. # [23:07] <@njn> karl: but I haven't inspected it in detail
  1162. # [23:08] <karl> njn: i assume this will need to be addressed eventually as valgrind runs over a bigger input set, but i wonder whether the regression could be a change to start pulseaudio when not needed
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  1166. # [23:11] <@njn> karl: yeah, that's what I meant by fixing it the 3rd time :) As for the cause, I will needinfo kinetik and padenot in the relvant bug (bug 946037)
  1167. # [23:12] <@njn> gaston: do you know when that WebRTC change landed?
  1168. # [23:12] <karl> ok
  1169. # [23:12] <jesup> njn: which change?
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  1171. # [23:13] <jesup> the builders and test machines tend to be minimal configed machines
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  1176. # [23:15] <@njn> jesup: gaston said above "probably because of webrtc relying on pulseaudio by default"
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  1178. # [23:16] <gaston> but iirc that's been a while
  1179. # [23:16] <@njn> jesup: on valgrind-on-tbpl runs, firefox is fork-and-exec'ing /usr/bin/pulseaudio, which is new behaviouor as of Dec 3rd
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  1184. # [23:19] <jesup> njn: no idea
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  1187. # [23:20] <kinetik> njn: i don't see anything in that bug about PA...
  1188. # [23:21] <@njn> kinetik: I'm writing up the comment right now
  1189. # [23:22] <@njn> kinetik: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=946037#c7
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  1192. # [23:24] <@njn> karl: would |pulseaudio| be the required package?
  1193. # [23:24] * @njn has never been good with understanding what lives in what package
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  1196. # [23:25] <karl> njn: i don't know; i'd find the package on http://vault.centos.org/6.0/os/i386/Packages/, download it, and less tells me the files in the package
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  1198. # [23:25] <kinetik> njn: yes, that's the one you want.
  1199. # [23:26] <kinetik> seems like this wouldn't be a problem if this ran on the test machines, because they get the correct packages installed.
  1200. # [23:26] <kinetik> the default assumption would be that build machines only get what's needed to compile and link.
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  1202. # [23:27] <@njn> kinetik: yes
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  1207. # [23:33] <kinetik> njn: updated the bug with info
  1208. # [23:34] <@njn> kinetik: thanks!
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  1211. # [23:35] <@njn> kinetik: so I found a start-up perf problem? cool
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  1214. # [23:36] <@njn> kinetik: maybe running on the build machines isn't so bad, then :)
  1215. # [23:39] <kinetik> njn: indeed
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  1222. # [23:46] <@njn> kinetik: if you or padenot make the PA initialization lazy, then Bug 947752 won't be needed
  1223. # [23:46] <@njn> kinetik: is that likely to happen?
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  1225. # [23:47] <kinetik> njn: i'm going to back out the patch and reopen the bug right now, so yes :-)
  1226. # [23:47] <@njn> kinetik: in that case, I'll WONTFIX 947752
  1227. # [23:51] <jwatt> philor: is that b2g desktop failure on m-c known? I don't think I could have caused that
  1228. # [23:51] <@njn> kinetik: thanks for the help!
  1229. # [23:52] <philor> jwatt: who can tell?
  1230. # [23:53] <jwatt> philor: not me :)
  1231. # [23:53] <philor> some random thing began spewing NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE
  1232. # [23:53] <philor> then it died
  1233. # [23:53] <philor> nobody came to the funeral
  1234. # [23:54] <kinetik> njn: no prob, sorry about breaking you
  1235. # [23:55] <@njn> kinetik: well, valgrind-on-tbpl currently is hidden and only runs once per day, and only on m-c, so it's not like you could have known :)
  1236. # [23:55] <@njn> fortunately catlee landed patches to run it on other branches, and per push, and they're just waiting on the next buildbot update
  1237. # [23:56] * @njn notes that his Mondays are typically pretty quiet, but if he wants an audio/video question answered it's not a problem
  1238. # [23:56] <philor> I would have nothing to do with it, but I need that push to finish, so I can back out other b2g bustage and merge it around
  1239. # [23:57] <philor> or not back it out, in the hypothetical case where someone in #b2g actually says something
  1240. # [23:57] * philor doesn't count on that, though
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