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  1. # Session Start: Mon Dec 09 00:00:00 2013
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  5. # [00:00] <@njn> philor: BTW, those runaway Valgrind runs were expected; I turned on some very verbose logging to track down a problem. I've since disabled the logging
  6. # [00:01] <@njn> philor: I'm looking forward to being able to do that on try, some day
  7. # [00:02] <@njn> though the valgrind.sh script is in the tools/ repo, which means I can't test changes to it without affecting every repo, unfortunately...
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  14. # [00:04] <philor> nrc: so, does IsRenderMode not actually exist, or did you need-clobber?
  15. # [00:05] <philor> or do we build debug non-unified, and it existing rides on the coattails of unified?
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  41. # [00:28] <philor> gah!
  42. # [00:29] <philor> jwatt: no problem, I'll just wait another two or three hours to be sure m-c is safe to merge around before I push this backout of b2g bustage
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  44. # [00:32] <jwatt> philor: sorry, I didn't know you were waiting for/needed a green tip on m-c :(
  45. # [00:33] <jwatt> philor: maybe close it if you're specifically needing people not to land on it?
  46. # [00:33] <@njn> NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS_INHERITED2(
  47. # [00:33] <@njn> nsObserverService,
  48. # [00:33] <@njn> MemoryMultiReporter,
  49. # [00:33] <@njn> nsIObserverService,
  50. # [00:33] <@njn> nsObserverService)
  51. # [00:33] <@njn> that last line sure is weird, but if I try to "fix" it by removing it, I get shutdown hangs
  52. # [00:34] <jwatt> philor: and fwiw I'll be very, very surprised if anything fails from that push, although that may not be good enough for you to proceed ;(
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  54. # [00:39] <NeilAway> njn: that whole line is weird
  55. # [00:39] <@njn> NeilAway: I'm in the process of removing the INHERITED so it's just NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS3
  56. # [00:39] <NeilAway> njn: oh wait, I missed the INHERITED bit
  57. # [00:40] <@njn> but I don't understand why nsObserverService is there twice
  58. # [00:40] <@njn> it inherits from itself, or something
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  62. # [00:45] <NeilAway> njn: ah, it exists so that nsXPComInit can shut down the observer service
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  87. # [01:18] <nrc> sorry philor, chose a bad type to afk
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  91. # [01:23] <@njn> NeilAway: how does that work?
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  96. # [01:33] <tbsaunde> njn: the nsObserverService class has a CID so you can QI to it, and nsXPComInit.cpp does that
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  100. # [01:44] <@njn> is there a way to tell if you're on linux within JS (chrome) code?
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  106. # [01:51] <JosiahOne> njn: You mean without an #ifdef ?
  107. # [01:51] <@njn> JosiahOne: an #ifdef might be ok... this is a .xul mochitest-chrome test
  108. # [01:52] <@njn> JosiahOne: oh, browser/base/content/browser.xul has |#ifdef XP_LINUX| so I'll just do that
  109. # [01:52] <JosiahOne> Cool. Didn't know about that one.
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  111. # [01:53] <@njn> oh, but that's not a test
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  115. # [01:53] <@njn> but maybe that's ok
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  119. # [01:56] <@njn> or maybe not
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  126. # [02:06] <jesup> There are BSD ports, FYI, so UNIX_BUT_NOT_MAC has some meaning
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  143. # [02:23] <nrc> https://www.irccloud.com/ works fine in FF on Linux, but shows nothing but the sidebar on FF on Windows (beta and nightly). Does anyone know if this is our bug or their's?
  144. # [02:23] <nrc> I see plenty of html when I view page source
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  152. # [02:31] <@roc> "Earlier this week I attended a thriller of an NSF-sponsored workshop on high-level programming models for parallelism, where I was surprised by the declarative zombie once again coming to eat our brains."
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  180. # [02:56] <@njn> roc: what's that from?
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  211. # [03:18] <glandium> njn: r? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3740239
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  217. # [03:23] <@roc> njn: Bob Harper's blog
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  230. # [03:39] <philor> nrc: heads up, Ripc
  231. # [03:39] <nrc> philor: thank, looking...
  232. # [03:39] <nrc> not my day today...
  233. # [03:39] <philor> oh, guess I could have waited 10 seconds for my retriggers to show up, more than just a heads up now
  234. # [03:39] <philor> more of a "how about for Gecko 29 instead?"
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  239. # [03:43] <nrc> philor: yeah, I don't see an easy fix. Do you have a backout lined up or should I do the honours?
  240. # [03:43] <philor> nrc: got it queued, sorry about your day
  241. # [03:44] <nrc> philor: thanks
  242. # [03:44] <nrc> I might try the earlier one again - I think that is just a silly compile error. This will need more work
  243. # [03:45] <nrc> I was sure I covered all the bases with this on try, somehow managed to miss something by doing multiple small pushes instead of one big one :-(
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  261. # [04:02] <philor> oh boy, checkin-needed
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  263. # [04:03] <philor> nothing caps off a long day like seven completely unrelated patches in a single push
  264. # [04:04] <JosiahOne> But just think of all the people it will make happy. :)
  265. # [04:05] <philor> true, I've heard lots of people say they'll stop using Fx if 28 keeps using "using namespace" in toolkit/ headers
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  268. # [04:06] <JosiahOne> Haha.
  269. # [04:07] <philor> and since the correct standard for pushing today is "yeah, I'd totally request approval-aurora on this" and I'm sure someone would for renaming a header file, it's all good
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  313. # [05:06] <grobinson|laptop> anybody know how to use FindInReadable to search in specific sections of strings?
  314. # [05:06] <grobinson|laptop> like, I want to see if a strings ends with a particular substring
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  317. # [05:06] <grobinson|laptop> so if i'm looking for ".com", I want "foo.com" to match, but "foo.com.org" to not match
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  319. # [05:07] <grobinson|laptop> ah, appears there is a StringEndsWith helper function
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  333. # [05:20] <nemo> hrm. http://hedgewars.googlecode.com/hg/misc/hats_js_anim.xhtml seems waaaaay slower than I remember it being in my current firefox nightly :(
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  335. # [05:20] <nemo> (linux)
  336. # [05:21] <nemo> chromium is buttery smooth
  337. # [05:21] <nemo> hmmm. so is stable
  338. # [05:21] <nemo> well well
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  343. # [05:22] <nemo> hm. clean profile is fine too. curious
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  346. # [05:27] <nemo> ah. layers acceleration force-enabled was the prob
  347. # [05:27] <nemo> which I prob had enabled 'cause I had azure skia enabled
  348. # [05:28] <nemo> which I had set because a bunch of canvas is still slow w/ cairo
  349. # [05:28] <nemo> aaaand perf drops off on a bunch of 'em w/o it
  350. # [05:28] <nemo> bleah
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  798. # [12:01] <RealRaven> ping
  799. # [12:01] <Ms2ger> ack
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  801. # [12:01] <RealRaven> do you happen to know how filter operators (booleanAnd) work?
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  803. # [12:02] <RealRaven> e.g. in this set of conditions: condition="AND (from,contains,amo-editors@mozilla.org) AND (subject,contains,Review) OR (subject,contains,QuickFolders)"
  804. # [12:02] <RealRaven> which of the operators is ignored (the first AND or the last OR) ?
  805. # [12:02] <RealRaven> AND (A) AND (B) OR (A) = ??
  806. # [12:03] <RealRaven> sry
  807. # [12:03] <RealRaven> AND (A) AND (B) OR (C) = A and B and C ?
  808. # [12:03] <RealRaven> AND (A) AND (B) OR (C) = A and B or C ?
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  819. # [12:11] <TheOne> RealRaven: AND (A) AND (B) OR (C) = A and B or C
  820. # [12:11] <TheOne> why would it be otherwise?
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  825. # [12:13] <jwatt> RealRaven: these are thunderbird filters? Since JavaScript and C++ both give higher precedence to && and otherwise evaluate left-to-right (in the order they're given), I would expect the same applies to mail filters
  826. # [12:13] <jwatt> since this is a UI thing, maybe not though
  827. # [12:14] <jwatt> I guess you asked in #thunderbird and got no reply
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  830. # [12:14] <jwatt> probably your fastest way to determine the truth is to make a test filter and send yourself some test emails
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  836. # [12:20] <RealRaven> TheOne: so you are saying the first AND is ignored?
  837. # [12:21] <TheOne> RealRaven: why would it be ignored?
  838. # [12:21] <RealRaven> TheOne: we have 3 operators and 3 operands? we only need 2 operators
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  840. # [12:22] <RealRaven> each term has: term.booleanAnd, term.beginsGrouping, term.endsGrouping
  841. # [12:22] <TheOne> that statement returns true if a) A and B is true *OR* b) C is true
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  845. # [12:22] <RealRaven> TheOne: this wasn't a question about boolean logic bu about how the terms are parsed
  846. # [12:22] <RealRaven> I think the last operator is always ignored (unless you append one more operand)
  847. # [12:23] <RealRaven> You can also read it like this: A.and B.and C.or
  848. # [12:23] <RealRaven> =>
  849. # [12:23] <grubshka> Hi there
  850. # [12:23] <RealRaven> A and B and C (ignore OR)
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  852. # [12:23] <RealRaven> A.and B.and C.or D.and => A and B and C or D (ignore last AND)
  853. # [12:24] <RealRaven> adding grouping:
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  855. # [12:25] <RealRaven> A.and=true, B.and=true, C.and=false C.beginsGrouping, D.and=true D.endsGrouping
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  858. # [12:25] <RealRaven> A and B and (C or D) [D.and ignored]
  859. # [12:26] <RealRaven> that's my question. the operator of the very last term is ignored?
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  861. # [12:26] <RealRaven> Or is it the operator of the very first term?
  862. # [12:26] <RealRaven> Each term has booleanAnd. with N operands, there is always one operator too many (we only need N-1)
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  865. # [12:27] <RealRaven> jwatt: that's not possible with the current UI,. because of bug 297852 - there is no UI for this
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  867. # [12:28] <RealRaven> we cannot mix AND OR with the current UI. My problem is my Addon QuickFilters supports merging multiple filters and I need a way forward
  868. # [12:29] <RealRaven> the "easiest" way would be to add ( ) around each merged term but this will be hard to edit or understand as the UI only shows ONE operator for everything (it lies)
  869. # [12:29] <RealRaven> Another one would be to flatten all terms and put AND or OR everywhere. Breaking the filter in the process :(
  870. # [12:30] <RealRaven> that's why it is important to know which operator is ignored
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  873. # [12:33] <grubshka> I've a problem when I try to instanciate a variable of type nsCOMPtr<nsIPrincipal>, it says it's can't with nsIPrincipal, tries with nsISupport but can't convert : http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3741921
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  878. # [12:35] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: ping
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  881. # [12:40] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: pong
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  883. # [12:41] <glandium> did i break something?
  884. # [12:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: i think there is a issue with the pgo build and your push
  885. # [12:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?onlyunstarred=1&rev=85196889c598
  886. # [12:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=31674659&tree=Mozilla-Central is the error in all cases
  887. # [12:42] <glandium> yay
  888. # [12:42] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> i guess its from bug 945042
  889. # [12:43] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: can you backout 85196889c598?
  890. # [12:43] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: yeah sure
  891. # [12:44] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: 473d459b4bba also or just 85196889c598
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  896. # [12:45] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: let me see
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  903. # [12:50] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: k
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  910. # [12:55] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: just 85196889c598
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  912. # [12:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok
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  916. # [12:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok backout pushed
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  924. # [13:06] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thanks
  925. # [13:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np
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  957. # [13:41] <grubshka> NeilAway, thanks I finally found it... Now I'm stuck with another inclusion problem -_-
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  980. # [13:57] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: you should have triggered pgo builds
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  986. # [14:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: yeah will see that i get someone in releng
  987. # [14:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> because not sure how to retrigger pgo builds
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  989. # [14:04] <paso> i am struggling to restore my sync on firefox
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  993. # [14:05] <paso> i had setup sync with account id and password but now its also asking for the recovery key?
  994. # [14:05] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: selfserve
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  996. # [14:06] <paso> i want to restore my sync data on this new copy of firefox
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  998. # [14:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: oh!
  999. # [14:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> done
  1000. # [14:07] <paso> no idea why sync is so complex in firefox as compared to chrome
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  1002. # [14:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: pgo builds on the way
  1003. # [14:08] * Tomcat|sheriffduty goes and document this :)
  1004. # [14:09] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: document waht? Landing on inbound, not m-c directly?
  1005. # [14:10] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> retrigger pgo builds :)
  1006. # [14:10] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> for the how-to pages :)
  1007. # [14:10] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: did you want to document the other parts of self-serve too?
  1008. # [14:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> no just how to do :)
  1009. # [14:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> where to find
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  1033. # [14:27] <zzzzz> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I'm seeing reports on MZ that PGO builds crash on start, I think today's Nightly is going to be bad news...
  1034. # [14:27] <zzzzz> today, is also up-lift day I think..
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  1037. # [14:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> zzzzz: on windows ?
  1038. # [14:29] <zzzzz> yes
  1039. # [14:30] <zzzzz> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13238423#p13238423 and following posts in thread
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  1041. # [14:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
  1042. # [14:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> zzzzz: retriggered nightlies
  1043. # [14:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> for the revision with the backout
  1044. # [14:31] <zzzzz> thanks
  1045. # [14:31] <zzzzz> ok, thanks again
  1046. # [14:31] <zzzzz> I'll let them know
  1047. # [14:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
  1048. # [14:32] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> also checked the mozillazine post, was a long time ago since i last look at the forums :) i think i have also still a login there :)
  1049. # [14:33] <RyanVM> glandium: Please refrain from future direct m-c landings
  1050. # [14:33] <RyanVM> there's a reason we wait for pgo green pushes to merge
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  1052. # [14:34] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> zzzzz: thanks for the post
  1053. # [14:34] <zzzzz> np, your welcome
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  1057. # [14:40] <glandium> RyanVM: well, those pgo can be as green as they want, they're not built properly
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  1061. # [14:40] <glandium> thanks to unified sources
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  1063. # [14:41] <glandium> and that's what that was supposed to fix
  1064. # [14:41] <RyanVM> glandium: I prefer what they were doing over what they turned into...
  1065. # [14:41] <RyanVM> and a few hours on inbound wouldn't have killed you
  1066. # [14:41] <RyanVM> vs. dealying nightlies and everything else
  1067. # [14:41] <@bz> gps: Please just stop breaking my workflow? :(
  1068. # [14:42] * @bz is so fed up with this....
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  1072. # [14:43] * @bz is particularly annoyed bybthe random requirements to use mach
  1073. # [14:44] <nical> Did something change with logging on android?
  1074. # [14:44] <nical> printf_stderr doesn't seem to appear in the logcat anymore
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  1081. # [14:50] <@bz> gps: and if you want me to be able to look at this before the new year, post am interdiff
  1082. # [14:50] <@bz> gps: because the current setup is NOT reasonable
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  1092. # [14:55] <nash> Hi
  1093. # [14:55] <nash> I am new to mozilla ...
  1094. # [14:55] <nash> I am a C++ Developer ... wanted to start something ..
  1095. # [14:56] <Dexter> Hi Nash! You should join #introduction :)
  1096. # [14:56] <nash> Thanks Dexter !
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  1099. # [14:58] <RyanVM> bz: ping
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  1101. # [14:59] <RyanVM> nvm, I think
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  1103. # [15:00] <kanru> RyanVM: ping
  1104. # [15:00] <RyanVM> kanru: pong
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  1106. # [15:00] <RyanVM> bz: yeah, ping
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  1108. # [15:00] <kanru> RyanVM: bug 941468, I have a updated patch
  1109. # [15:01] <RyanVM> kanru: ...
  1110. # [15:01] <RyanVM> kanru: mark old patches as obsolete in the future?
  1111. # [15:01] <@bz> RyanVML ack
  1112. # [15:02] <@bz> if I want to land stuff for 28, do I need to land it right now and on Holly?
  1113. # [15:02] <RyanVM> bz: I have bustage on b2g26 from bug 946479 and I'm wondering how minimal of a fix I can get away with
  1114. # [15:02] <kanru> RyanVM: nope, I'm updating the patch and while you checkin
  1115. # [15:02] <RyanVM> kanru: figures :)
  1116. # [15:03] <RyanVM> bz: I would assume they'll do one more m-c -> Holly merge before the uplift
  1117. # [15:03] <@bz> ok
  1118. # [15:03] <RyanVM> jaws ^ ?
  1119. # [15:03] * jorendorff_away is now known as jorendorff
  1120. # [15:03] <RyanVM> bz: what are you trying to land?
  1121. # [15:03] <RyanVM> can we just land it on Aurora post-uplift instead of crash-landing today?
  1122. # [15:03] <RyanVM> realistically, the last merges to m-c for 28 are probably done already
  1123. # [15:03] <jaws> Hey
  1124. # [15:04] <jaws> Yeah I'm gonna do a merge now
  1125. # [15:04] <kanru> RyanVM: so, should I create a follow up patch?
  1126. # [15:04] <RyanVM> kanru: I'm going to land an interdiff
  1127. # [15:04] <RyanVM> don't worry abou tit
  1128. # [15:04] <kanru> thanks!
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  1131. # [15:06] <RyanVM> bz: basically the issue with b2g26 is the lack of mNumberControlSpinnerSpinsUp
  1132. # [15:07] <RyanVM> bz: can I just add mNumberControlSpinnerSpinsUp : 1; to the right place in HTMLInputElement.h and call it good or does other logic need adding?
  1133. # [15:07] <@bz> RyanVM: looking
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  1136. # [15:07] <@bz> RyanVM: So you're getting merge conflicts, right?
  1137. # [15:07] <RyanVM> bz: I did, yes
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  1139. # [15:08] <RyanVM> worked around them, but then hit the compiler error
  1140. # [15:08] <@bz> RyanVM: ah
  1141. # [15:08] * @bz looks
  1142. # [15:08] <@bz> 1.134 + , mNumberControlSpinnerSpinsUp(false)
  1143. # [15:08] <@bz> Just kill that line
  1144. # [15:09] <@bz> No need to initialize a non-existent member. ;)
  1145. # [15:09] <RyanVM> ok, I figured he added it because he needed it for something in the patch
  1146. # [15:09] <@bz> No, just general code cleanliness
  1147. # [15:09] <RyanVM> perfect, thanks
  1148. # [15:09] <@bz> No problem
  1149. # [15:09] <RyanVM> bz: what are you thoughts on the 28 landings?
  1150. # [15:09] <RyanVM> I would prefer an aurora landing at this point
  1151. # [15:09] <@bz> I could do that too
  1152. # [15:09] <RyanVM> we can still get it in before the first nightlies come off the branch
  1153. # [15:10] <@bz> Just land on inbound now
  1154. # [15:10] <@bz> and ask for approval
  1155. # [15:10] <RyanVM> yeah, I think that's best
  1156. # [15:10] <RyanVM> approvals are easy post-uplift
  1157. # [15:10] <@bz> ok
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  1160. # [15:10] <RyanVM> thanks :)
  1161. # [15:10] <jaws> RyanVM: i'm gonna merge from m-c to holly now, but i usually just merge the last green changeset of m-c to holly. should i still do that or do you want me to merge m-c tip to holly?
  1162. # [15:10] * @bz stops worrying about landing it, then, and gets together _all_ the things he wants to land
  1163. # [15:10] <RyanVM> jaws: you want tip
  1164. # [15:11] <RyanVM> jaws: or else you'll get PGO bustage
  1165. # [15:11] <jaws> ok
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  1169. # [15:13] <RyanVM> kanru: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-b2g26_v1_2/rev/4d1c05b3d6f1
  1170. # [15:13] <jaws> ryanvm, holly now matches m-c tip
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  1174. # [15:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jaws: cool
  1175. # [15:15] <kanru> RyanVM: :D
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  1200. # [15:29] <gcp> did windows nightly update completely bust?
  1201. # [15:30] <gcp> "couldn't load xpcom" "can't start because pgort100.dll is missing"
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  1204. # [15:32] <paul> gcp: you're not the first one to mention that
  1205. # [15:32] <gcp> bug nr?
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  1217. # [15:39] <RyanVM> gcp: paul: yes, respins are going
  1218. # [15:39] <RyanVM> gcp: paul: should be out in ~2h
  1219. # [15:39] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=9f12a9fab080
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  1248. # [15:58] <gcp> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=947916 <- it's reproducible
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  1252. # [16:00] <RyanVM> gcp: did you see my last reply to yoU?
  1253. # [16:00] <gcp> no
  1254. # [16:00] <RyanVM> 9:42:15 AM - RyanVM: gcp: paul: yes, respins are going
  1255. # [16:00] <RyanVM> 9:42:34 AM - RyanVM: gcp: paul: should be out in ~2h
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  1257. # [16:00] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=9f12a9fab080
  1258. # [16:01] <gcp> okay, so I can dupe my bug to 945042
  1259. # [16:01] <RyanVM> no
  1260. # [16:01] <gcp> well it's not a dupe
  1261. # [16:01] <RyanVM> but I marked the dependency
  1262. # [16:01] <RyanVM> feel free to change teh component though
  1263. # [16:01] <RyanVM> because App Update is almost certainly incorrect
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  1265. # [16:02] <gcp> Done.
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  1272. # [16:05] <mkaply> Does anyone know if the Firefox Personalization Study got shipped as part of a Firefox version? I have users seeing it in the ESR.
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  1274. # [16:05] <bkelly> if I want to detect an OOM condition, can I just catch(std::bad_alloc) or does gecko have some kind of wrapper or other mechanism in place?
  1275. # [16:06] <gcp> bkelly: use fallible memory allocation?
  1276. # [16:06] <padenot> use a fallible allocation and check for nullptr
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  1279. # [16:06] <padenot> (we don't use C++ exceptions)
  1280. # [16:07] <bkelly> gcp, padenot, ah, ok... thanks! I'm trying to track down the statement trigger the allocation failure... so I will look for something returning nullptr, thanks!
  1281. # [16:07] <gcp> RyanVM: I should comment in that bug "why wasn't this landed on m-i?" :P
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  1283. # [16:07] <padenot> bkelly: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/webaudio/MediaBufferDecoder.cpp#324
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  1285. # [16:07] <RyanVM> gcp: we've already said the same to him ;)
  1286. # [16:07] <RyanVM> gcp: but more fuel on the "make m-c approval-only" fire
  1287. # [16:09] <gcp> I prefer giving out eeyore hats. Less process, more funny.
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  1289. # [16:09] <RyanVM> heh, feel free to send one to Japan ;)
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  1296. # [16:16] <adalucinet> !seen cpearce
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  1298. # [16:17] <padenot> adalucinet: you would have more chance during New-Zealand office hours
  1299. # [16:17] <padenot> adalucinet: and in #media :-)
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  1301. # [16:18] <adalucinet> padenot: great, thanks :)
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  1303. # [16:18] <padenot> adalucinet: but maybe I can answer your question
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  1314. # [16:24] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: sweet, blocklist bustage on esr24 again
  1315. # [16:24] <Ms2ger> wasn'tme
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  1318. # [16:25] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: i seem to remember a rant from you on that topic before ;)
  1319. # [16:25] <Ms2ger> Plausible
  1320. # [16:25] <Ms2ger> I muted the bug
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  1323. # [16:26] <Ms2ger> But whatever, it's esr, close the tree indefinitely
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  1325. # [16:27] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: yep
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  1328. # [16:29] <froydnj> no patches landing means no bugs, right?
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  1330. # [16:29] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: I forget what needs to be done to un-bust it (besides backing out)
  1331. # [16:30] <Ms2ger> I don't want to try to remember
  1332. # [16:30] <RyanVM> :)
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  1362. # [16:54] <NeilAway> bz++
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  1366. # [16:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bz: ping
  1367. # [16:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bz: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=31683653&tree=Mozilla-Inbound seems to be related to your push
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  1384. # [17:01] <jimm> hrm, anyone running into make errors on Windows with mc tip?
  1385. # [17:01] <jimm> t:/Mozilla/mc/config/baseconfig.mk:23: *** Make version too old. Only versions strictly greater than 4.0 are supported.. Stop.
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  1388. # [17:03] <@bz> RyanVM: ping
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  1390. # [17:03] <RyanVM> bz: meeting
  1391. # [17:03] <KWierso> jimm: need a newer mozillabuild, I think
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  1393. # [17:03] <@bz> Hmm
  1394. # [17:03] <@bz> who's sheriff?
  1395. # [17:03] <jimm> KWierso: just installed the latest
  1396. # [17:03] <RyanVM> bz: what's up?
  1397. # [17:03] <froydnj> bz: Tomcat|sheriffduty I assume
  1398. # [17:03] <@bz> I suspect my patch just needs a clobber
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  1400. # [17:03] <Ms2ger> Tomcat|sheriffduty, ^
  1401. # [17:04] <@bz> OK if I just land that, CLOSED TREE?
  1402. # [17:04] <Ms2ger> Of course
  1403. # [17:04] <RyanVM> bz: sure
  1404. # [17:04] <@bz> ^%&%^&%^ windows
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  1406. # [17:04] <RyanVM> jimm: https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/birch/file/f418a2ae24bc/mozmake.exe
  1407. # [17:04] <RyanVM> put that in your path
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  1412. # [17:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bz: yeah sure feel free :)
  1413. # [17:07] <@bz> What does 'i;r' mean?
  1414. # [17:07] <KWierso> "infrastructure;retriggered"
  1415. # [17:07] <jimm> KWierso, RyanVM: reinstalled mozilla build again. I think I got a cached download.
  1416. # [17:07] <KWierso> or "intermittent"
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  1420. # [17:08] <@bz> Ah
  1421. # [17:08] <@bz> I see
  1422. # [17:08] <@bz> In the sense that our build system is infrastructure... ;)
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  1425. # [17:08] <Ms2ger> bz, can it even be called that? ;)
  1426. # [17:11] <jimm> RyanVM: reinstalling didn't help
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  1428. # [17:11] <alice0775> Hi, Today's Holly nightly win32 build (cset f37f87abf269)fails to start. Please re-spin like m-c Nightly builds.
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  1431. # [17:12] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM: did we pull the broken nightly?
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  1433. # [17:12] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> we retriggered the nighly
  1434. # [17:12] <Ms2ger> Tomcat|sheriffduty, on Holly?
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  1436. # [17:12] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> no on central
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  1438. # [17:12] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jaws: ^
  1439. # [17:12] <@bsmedberg> Tomcat|sheriffduty: did we pull the broken one, though?
  1440. # [17:12] <@bsmedberg> (on central)
  1441. # [17:12] <jaws> hi
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  1446. # [17:14] <jaws> Tomcat|sheriffduty, i've triggered new NIghtlies on Holly from the Holly tip cset
  1447. # [17:14] <jaws> 894b56f8bbf5
  1448. # [17:14] <KWierso> alice0775: ^
  1449. # [17:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: i think we need to pull the broken nightlies - not even sure how (pinging releng)
  1450. # [17:15] <RyanVM> yeah, RelEng needs to do that
  1451. # [17:15] <alice0775> Thanks.
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  1465. # [17:20] <luke> RyanVM: i forget, can one land test-only changes to a closed tree?
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  1467. # [17:20] <Ms2ger> Please don'y
  1468. # [17:20] <Ms2ger> t
  1469. # [17:20] <RyanVM> luke: what tree?
  1470. # [17:20] <luke> RyanVM: m-i
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  1472. # [17:21] <RyanVM> luke: please don't
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  1474. # [17:21] <luke> righto
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  1494. # [17:30] <Optimizer> is nightly update busted ?
  1495. # [17:30] <Optimizer> err. I mean it *is* busted on windows . (atlest)
  1496. # [17:30] <Optimizer> atleast*
  1497. # [17:30] <Optimizer> says, couldn't load XPCOM
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  1499. # [17:30] <zzzzz> Optimizer: yes, re-spin in progress
  1500. # [17:30] <Optimizer> how will I get one, if my nightly does not open ..
  1501. # [17:31] <RyanVM> Optimizer: you'll need to download it directly
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  1504. # [17:31] <zzzzz> manually download yesterday's , or wait another 30-40 mins and download the latest
  1505. # [17:31] <Optimizer> :|
  1506. # [17:31] <Optimizer> :(
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  1514. # [17:32] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Optimizer: filed bug 947965 for the nighly issue
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  1529. # [17:38] <zzzzz> Optimizer: Nightly on the FTP here http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2013-12-09-05-34-02-mozilla-central/
  1530. # [17:38] <Optimizer> thanks
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  1533. # [17:40] <Optimizer> we dont have the web installer for nightly builds ?
  1534. # [17:40] <Optimizer> oh got it
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  1536. # [17:40] <KWierso> installer-stub.exe
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  1541. # [17:42] <philor> after I started thinking about setting m-c to approval-required yesterday, I also started thinking about setting integration branches to approval-required, where getting approval consists of explaining why you need to stuff it in at the last second, and how you certainly would request approval-aurora if you missed
  1542. # [17:42] * froydnj thinks about philor sending lots of a- emails
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  1548. # [17:44] <Optimizer> so we cannot land directly on fx-team now ?
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  1552. # [17:46] <philor> Optimizer: sure you can!
  1553. # [17:46] <Optimizer> then i did not get what you mean above
  1554. # [17:46] <philor> it's open, and looking good
  1555. # [17:46] <philor> and it'll ship in 29
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  1557. # [17:47] <philor> what I meant was the period before this, when people are stuffing things in before the merge to aurora
  1558. # [17:47] * jorendorff is now known as jorendorff_away
  1559. # [17:47] <Optimizer> so .. when does that period start ?
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  1562. # [17:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Optimizer: it doesn't
  1563. # [17:48] <philor> you do realize that things I think about are not the same as actual policy, right?
  1564. # [17:48] <@ted> heh
  1565. # [17:48] <philor> but if they were, it would start when I wake up on Sunday morning
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  1567. # [17:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Optimizer: wishful thinking != new policy directives
  1568. # [17:48] <@ted> philor: shouldn't we just not merge project branches if they are jammed full of crap?
  1569. # [17:48] <@ted> or is someone merging them even though they're crappy?
  1570. # [17:49] <heftig> things landed in fx-team now ship in 29, not 28?
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  1573. # [17:49] <heftig> er, right, never mind
  1574. # [17:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> heftig: correct
  1575. # [17:49] <@ted> heftig: today is merge day
  1576. # [17:49] <heftig> got my numbers mixed up
  1577. # [17:49] <philor> well, there is that, too, but there are things which should land on the Sunday before a merge, and we would much rather have them land on a branch first
  1578. # [17:50] <@ted> philor: ah, so you'd like to have a safe place for stuff to land on an integration branch
  1579. # [17:50] <@ted> without getting held up by the cruft
  1580. # [17:50] <philor> the current system depends on people starting to say to themselves on Friday, certainly by Saturday, "should I just hold on to this until noon Monday?"
  1581. # [17:50] <froydnj> MOAR INTEGRATION BRANCHES
  1582. # [17:50] <@ted> heh
  1583. # [17:50] <Optimizer> zzzzz: the link you gave is also broken
  1584. # [17:50] <philor> we do not have a demonstrated ability to think like that
  1585. # [17:50] <froydnj> mozilla-dont-commit-crap-inbound
  1586. # [17:50] <@ted> i was just thinking, maybe we should use one of the alternate inbound branches as "lastminute-inbound"
  1587. # [17:50] <Optimizer> froydnj: then we name the existing to mozilla-commit-crap-here-inbound ?
  1588. # [17:50] <philor> the only thing we have is a demonstrated desperate desire to push things the instant we can, if not before
  1589. # [17:51] <zzzzz> Optimizer: broken how ? you mean it won't start either ?
  1590. # [17:51] * RyanVM|sheriffduty looks scornfully at today's nightly bustage as proof of that
  1591. # [17:51] <Optimizer> and we never merge that one to m-c. PROBLEM SOLVED
  1592. # [17:51] <Optimizer> zzzzz: yes
  1593. # [17:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Optimizer: odd, tests are passing again
  1594. # [17:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2013/12/2013-12-09-05-34-02-mozilla-central/ >
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  1596. # [17:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ?
  1597. # [17:51] <Optimizer> well.. it won't start
  1598. # [17:51] <Optimizer> it can't start
  1599. # [17:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> you sure you have the right build?
  1600. # [17:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> we hit the same issue on TBPL
  1601. # [17:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and it's fixed now
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  1603. # [17:52] <Optimizer> i i used the link zzzzz gave
  1604. # [17:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> zzzzz: is it WFY?
  1605. # [17:52] <zzzzz> 32 bit or 64 bit ?
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  1607. # [17:52] <zzzzz> WFY ?
  1608. # [17:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> working for you...
  1609. # [17:52] <zzzzz> I'm on an hourly - let me try the Nightly brb
  1610. # [17:53] <@ted> our nightly build stuff only checks that the builds are green, not the tests, right?
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  1612. # [17:53] <@ted> which is why we shipped a busted nightly?
  1613. # [17:53] <@ted> this would probably be a good application for a smoketest suite
  1614. # [17:53] <@ted> something that started the browser on a test slave and ran some very quick basic tests
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  1616. # [17:53] <@ted> so we could say "build + smoketest must be green to build nightly from this revision"
  1617. # [17:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ted: nightlies don't even run checktests
  1618. # [17:53] <@ted> without having to read the tea leaves of intermittent orange
  1619. # [17:54] <@ted> RyanVM|sheriffduty: exciting!
  1620. # [17:54] <@ted> i wonder why that is
  1621. # [17:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> not that it would have mattered I think
  1622. # [17:54] <@ted> (not that i think that would have caught this)
  1623. # [17:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> heh
  1624. # [17:54] <Optimizer> zzzzz: 32
  1625. # [17:54] <gcp> wasn't the issue here the big delay in getting PGO build results?
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  1627. # [17:54] <@ted> oh, that's probably also true
  1628. # [17:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gcp: no, the issue was that it was landed directly on m-c
  1629. # [17:54] <Optimizer> man, my internet speed is 512kbps right now. please dont make me download broken stuff :(
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  1631. # [17:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> why bypasses the "only merge pgo-green stuff to m-c" rule
  1632. # [17:54] <@ted> ahh
  1633. # [17:54] <@khuey> did we pully the nightly off the wire yet?
  1634. # [17:54] <@ted> yeah
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  1636. # [17:54] <@khuey> ok
  1637. # [17:54] <@khuey> good
  1638. # [17:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> khuey: the respin just finished
  1639. # [17:55] <@ted> so uh, time for the policy change to forbid direct m-c landing?
  1640. # [17:55] <zzzzz> WFM, win323 m-c
  1641. # [17:55] <gcp> m-c had the backout already
  1642. # [17:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ted: would be nice :)
  1643. # [17:55] <@ted> or require sheriff approval for m-c
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  1646. # [17:55] <@ted> RyanVM|sheriffduty: let's just do it
  1647. # [17:55] <gcp> bug 945042 was the cause
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  1649. # [17:55] <gcp> bug 947965 is disabled updates
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  1652. # [17:56] <@bsmedberg> bbondy: ping
  1653. # [17:56] <bbondy> bsmedberg: hi
  1654. # [17:57] <@bsmedberg> bbondy: can you reivew the nsSystemInfo piece of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8343892&action=edit ?
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  1656. # [17:57] <@bsmedberg> it looks a little weird to be doing string compares there
  1657. # [17:57] <@bsmedberg> but I'm not sure if there's a better way
  1658. # [17:57] <bbondy> sure
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  1661. # [17:57] <bbondy> np
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  1665. # [17:58] <Optimizer> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2013-12-09-05-34-02-mozilla-central/firefox-28.0a1.en-US.win32.installer-stub.exe does not work for me
  1666. # [17:59] <zzzzz> I don't know what 'stub' offiers over the regualar .exe - but the .exe WFM
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  1669. # [18:00] <Optimizer> ughh
  1670. # [18:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Optimizer: maybe the stub installer is still grabbing the old bits or sxomething
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  1672. # [18:00] * RyanVM|sheriffduty has no idea how that works
  1673. # [18:00] <Optimizer> 10 minutes to download
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  1676. # [18:00] <zzzzz> I would recommend using add/remove programs and un-install the Nightly there then install the new one once you get it downloaded
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  1678. # [18:01] <zzzzz> ewww, sorry about that !
  1679. # [18:01] * zzzzz gets 30 secs downloads here
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  1682. # [18:01] <Optimizer> i have exhausted my fup for this month
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  1684. # [18:01] <Optimizer> 2 days till i get back my normal speed
  1685. # [18:02] * KWierso mails Optimizer a flash drive with the installer
  1686. # [18:02] <Optimizer> email ?
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  1689. # [18:04] <Gijs> snail mail :)
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  1691. # [18:04] <Optimizer> ok, so maybe i will get it by the time 28 releases then ;)
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  1694. # [18:06] <gcp> bsmedberg: I did a drive-by there.
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  1698. # [18:07] <gcp> interestingly that doesn't give me bugmail
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  1707. # [18:11] <Optimizer> ok, the .exe works
  1708. # [18:11] <Optimizer> bu not the -stub.exe
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  1713. # [18:15] <mkaply> ttaubert: Tiny error on http://timtaubert.de/blog/2011/08/firefox-electrolysis-101/ - You can't call alert directly from a content script. Have to use content.document.defaultView.alert or someting like that.
  1714. # [18:16] <mkaply> ttaubert: Awesome example though. Exactly what I needed.
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  1720. # [18:18] <ttaubert> mkaply: yeah I wasn't totally familiar with it two years ago. I just wrote everything down as soon as I learned it :)
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  1726. # [18:20] <mkaply> ttaubert: Well it works great. It might get hit more with that new electrolysis post that went up.
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  1728. # [18:21] <ttaubert> yeah
  1729. # [18:21] <@smaug> mkaply: content.alert() should work
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  1732. # [18:22] <mkaply> smaug: You are correct sir.
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  1736. # [18:23] <@bsmedberg> gps: yt?
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  1740. # [18:26] <till> bsmedberg: ping
  1741. # [18:26] <@bsmedberg> till: pong
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  1744. # [18:26] <till> bsmedberg: I can't submit my status board post (again)
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  1746. # [18:26] <till> bsmedberg: this time, preview works, but submitting gives me a server error
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  1749. # [18:28] <@bsmedberg> till: I'm seeing "Connection reset by peer" sending emails
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  1751. # [18:28] <till> huh
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  1753. # [18:28] <@bsmedberg> hard to say which SMTP server might be having the issues
  1754. # [18:28] <@bsmedberg> might be the internal dreamhost one
  1755. # [18:28] <till> bsmedberg: should I just retry in a bit?
  1756. # [18:29] <@bsmedberg> yes please
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  1758. # [18:30] <till> ok
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  1760. # [18:30] <till> bsmedberg: ah, now it worked
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  1769. # [18:33] <philor> geekboy: ping
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  1774. # [18:34] <geekboy> philor: pong
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  1778. # [18:35] <philor> geekboy: alas, I've never understood hsts, but now https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Esr24 insists that I need to - is that because we don't update the preload list, and now our entire esr24 list has expired?
  1779. # [18:37] <geekboy> are you talking about the xpcshell failure?
  1780. # [18:37] <philor> yeah
  1781. # [18:37] <geekboy> let me look
  1782. # [18:38] <philor> it started with a blocklist update which only blocked some foo@aol.comish extensions, so I sort of doubt that was the cause, and I suspect the calendar was instead
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  1786. # [18:38] <geekboy> keeler: philor is seeing xpcshell failures on Esr-24
  1787. # [18:39] <geekboy> that are related to hsts preloaded lists
  1788. # [18:39] <geekboy> philor: the list update doesn't run on ESR?
  1789. # [18:39] <keeler> looks like the last one was in august
  1790. # [18:39] <philor> geekboy: doesn't seem to, I have very vague memories of a discussion about it for esr17
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  1793. # [18:40] <geekboy> so yeah, that might break some of the tests, huh keeler?
  1794. # [18:40] <keeler> yes, it will
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  1796. # [18:40] <geekboy> ok
  1797. # [18:40] <keeler> the blocklist seems to update - why not the hsts lsit?
  1798. # [18:40] <keeler> *list
  1799. # [18:40] <philor> August a direct esr24 update, or August that being what it inherited from Gecko24?
  1800. # [18:41] <philor> I can't even remember how old 24 is
  1801. # [18:41] <keeler> I'm guessing inherited, but I don't know how to check
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  1803. # [18:41] <philor> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-esr24/
  1804. # [18:42] <philor> what's the file?
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  1806. # [18:42] <keeler> security/manager/boot/src/nsSTSPreloadList.inc
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  1808. # [18:42] <philor> oh, maybe 17 predated hsts, so we didn't need to do it there?
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  1810. # [18:43] <philor> so when esr24 copied config from esr17, it never realized it needed to update
  1811. # [18:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> niiice
  1812. # [18:43] <keeler> I think it predated the automatic updating of the preload list
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  1815. # [18:44] <philor> yeah, that last update is the last update that 24 got on aurora :|
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  1819. # [18:47] <Optimizer> any major build time improvements remaining ? (windows)
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  1824. # [18:49] <Optimizer> i mean i am almost happy with my 33 min clobber build. but osx gives me 12 min clobber build. (even after the fact that windows is on ssd but osx is not)
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  1827. # [18:51] <philor> keeler: I've forgotten what little I knew about manually updating the list - is it possible (though maybe not a great idea) for you to run an update that will green up the tree before releng sets up automatic updates?
  1828. # [18:51] <keeler> philor: I believe so, yes
  1829. # [18:51] <philor> assuming you're not currently in a Starbucks on pwned wifi, that is
  1830. # [18:52] <keeler> :) I'm in a Mozilla office, so I should be good to go
  1831. # [18:52] <@bz> God
  1832. # [18:52] <@bz> virtualenv
  1833. # [18:52] * @bz wonders how to make it work
  1834. # [18:52] <froydnj> magnets
  1835. # [18:52] <jgraham> bz: HAving some specific problem?
  1836. # [18:53] <@bz> well, like "doesn't run"?
  1837. # [18:53] <@khuey> keeler: pwned Starbucks wifi is probably more reliable than Mozilla office wifi
  1838. # [18:53] <mconley> froydnj: jury is still out on how those work
  1839. # [18:53] <@khuey> $ git fetch
  1840. # [18:53] <@khuey> fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/mozilla/mozilla-central.git/': Could
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  1842. # [18:53] <@bz> So I did easy_install virtualenv
  1843. # [18:53] * jgraham has never had that problem, so doesn't have any great suggestions
  1844. # [18:53] <@khuey> not resolve host: github.com
  1845. # [18:53] <@khuey> WTF?
  1846. # [18:53] <@bz> it put it in a dir that's not even in the PATH
  1847. # [18:53] <@bz> But if I run it from there directly, it just throws an exception
  1848. # [18:53] <jgraham> You are on osx?
  1849. # [18:53] <@bz> yes
  1850. # [18:54] <@bz> using the stock OS python, fwiw
  1851. # [18:54] <jgraham> Hmm, everything is harder on osx
  1852. # [18:54] * @bz shrugs
  1853. # [18:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> keeler: thanks :)
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  1855. # [18:54] <@bz> Everything is harder when we have no sane documentation
  1856. # [18:54] <jgraham> Well everything *python* is harder
  1857. # [18:54] <@bz> e.g. we have an in-tree virtualenv
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  1859. # [18:54] <@bz> why can't I use it?
  1860. # [18:54] <@bz> Because how to do so is totally undocumented
  1861. # [18:54] <keeler> RyanVM|sheriffduty: no problem - I do have to checkout/build/run update/checkin, though
  1862. # [18:55] <@khuey> so I can't access github.com
  1863. # [18:55] <@khuey> and I can't access downforeveryoneorjustme.com to find out if it's me
  1864. # [18:55] <froydnj> khuey: I can access it
  1865. # [18:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> keeler: no problem, it's not like esr24 being closed is holding anybody up :P
  1866. # [18:55] <keeler> ok :)
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  1869. # [18:56] <jgraham> Yeah, feels like mach virtualenv or something would help
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  1873. # [18:57] <jgraham> There seems to be some suggestions that on osx you are best off first installing pip then using that to isntall virtualenv
  1874. # [18:57] <jgraham> Although how you install pip...
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  1876. # [18:57] <jgraham> Possibly the right answer is "using some system package manager like homebrew"
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  1878. # [18:58] <@bz> mmm
  1879. # [18:58] <@bz> That will insist on using its own python version
  1880. # [18:58] <@bz> not the system one
  1881. # [18:58] <@bz> And that way tends to lie hell
  1882. # [18:58] <jgraham> Oh
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  1887. # [18:59] <@khuey> I think DNS is busted here
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  1889. # [18:59] <Ms2ger> bz, you can use the bundled virtualenv with ./mach python ..., I think
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  1891. # [18:59] <mjrosenb> I'm running a decently recent nightly. do the fonts on http://ootbcomp.com/docs/prediction/index.html look horrid for anyone else?
  1892. # [19:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yes
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  1894. # [19:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jaggy?
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  1896. # [19:00] <@bz> Ms2ger: checking
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  1898. # [19:01] <mjrosenb> RyanVM|sheriffduty: i'd say "lopsided"
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  1901. # [19:01] <@bz> er, objdirness
  1902. # [19:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mjrosenb: to me, it just looks like font smoothing isn't working
  1903. # [19:02] <heftig> mjrosenb: yuck
  1904. # [19:02] <@bz> Ms2ger:: how?
  1905. # [19:02] <heftig> some rendering problems, especially in the "c" glyph
  1906. # [19:02] <Ms2ger> bz, I have no idea what you're trying to do, fwiw
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  1910. # [19:03] <@bz> Ms2ger: globally?
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  1912. # [19:03] <@bz> Ms2ger: run a particular gaia-ui-test test
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  1914. # [19:03] <@bz> ms2ger: under a debugger
  1915. # [19:03] <Ms2ger> Ah
  1916. # [19:03] <mjrosenb> heftig: making it larger doesn't entirely solve the issue
  1917. # [19:03] <mjrosenb> but it does make it better.
  1918. # [19:04] <Ms2ger> bz, do you mind if I stick my head in the sand instead?
  1919. # [19:04] <heftig> yeah, i think the font has bad hints, or freetype is screwing up here
  1920. # [19:04] <@bz> ms2ger: but locally I'm trying to follow the directions at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Platform/Automated_testing/gaia-ui-tests/Gaia_UI_Tests_Installation#Virtual_Environment_Setup
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  1922. # [19:04] <@bz> Ms2ger: Not at all.
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  1924. # [19:04] <heftig> mjrosenb: http://pkgbuild.com/~heftig/screenshots/Screen%20Shot%202013-12-09%20at%2019.05.46.png
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  1929. # [19:05] <mjrosenb> heftig: yeah.
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  1931. # [19:05] <mjrosenb> anyone know who I should poke about this?
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  1936. # [19:08] <heftig> mjrosenb: freetype I guess, they're responsible for the hinting
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  1948. # [19:11] <@ehsan> vlad: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347592
  1949. # [19:11] <heftig> to compare: http://pkgbuild.com/~heftig/screenshots/Screen%20Shot%202013-12-09%20at%2019.13.18.png
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  1959. # [19:14] <reuben> bz: chances are you already have virtualenv installed
  1960. # [19:15] <@bz> I do not
  1961. # [19:15] <@bz> % virtualenv
  1962. # [19:15] <@bz> virtualenv: Command not found.
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  1977. # [19:23] * akeybl ##### MERGE DAY BEGINNING. NIGHTLY WILL BE FF29 SHORTLY. FF28 ON AURORA WILL COME FROM HOLLY. STAY INDOORS AND FIND SHELTER. #####
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  1980. # [19:25] <akeybl> holy shit there's fish falling from the sky, this merge is going to be worse than I thought
  1981. # [19:25] <@ehsan> OMG WHY THE VERSION NUMBER INFLATATION, I'LL JUST USE CHROME FROM NOW ON
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  1985. # [19:25] <mjrosenb> bz: virtualenv isn't a command that you can run (at least everything works here, and virtualenv isn't a program I can run)
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  1987. # [19:26] <mjrosenb> after we get to 30, we should just start increasing the base, rather than bumping the number
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  1991. # [19:26] <mjrosenb> so we'll have 30_{10}, then 30_{11} == 33, then 30_{12} == 36, etc.
  1992. # [19:26] * hwine is now known as hwine|mtg
  1993. # [19:27] <mjrosenb> although if we wait until 100 to do that, then we'll have quadratic growth!
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  1996. # [19:28] <Hixie> the new tab page's doodle's tooltip is overescaped
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  2003. # [19:28] <KWierso> Hixie: doodle?
  2004. # [19:29] <Hixie> uh, wrong channel. oops.
  2005. # [19:29] <Hixie> man, every time i rearrange my irssi channels i get confused for weeks.
  2006. # [19:29] <mjrosenb> Hixie: I know that feeling.
  2007. # [19:30] * shu is now known as shu`sick
  2008. # [19:31] <@ehsan> khuey: thanks for the drive by review!
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  2010. # [19:32] <@khuey> ehsan: it wasn't drive by, bent told me to do it
  2011. # [19:32] <@khuey> harassment was involved
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  2014. # [19:32] <@ehsan> khuey: haha well it looked like it's coming out of the kindness in your heart ;)
  2015. # [19:32] <bent> extreme persuasion
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  2018. # [19:33] <@bz> Unconventional persuasion methods.
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  2020. # [19:34] <@ehsan> haha
  2021. # [19:34] <smontagu> oh fun, all the "do stuff with ICU" bugs have to depends on bug 864843 and bug 866301 as well
  2022. # [19:35] <@ehsan> smontagu: why is that?
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  2025. # [19:35] <@ehsan> smontagu: those bugs are about the i18n API
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  2027. # [19:36] <smontagu> ehsan: well if not them some close relation
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  2029. # [19:36] <smontagu> the status quo seems to be that calls to ICU fail to link on android/b2g
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  2034. # [19:38] <philor> khuey: y u burn?
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  2037. # [19:39] <smontagu> and I assume the concerns expressed in bug 864843 about code size apply to both scenarii
  2038. # [19:39] <KWierso> philor: it's cold over here. fire is our friend :)
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  2042. # [19:39] <@ehsan> smontagu: ICU is explicitly disabled in configure.in for b2g and android, so if you want to try stuff out you should be able to turn that off
  2043. # [19:40] <@ehsan> smontagu: but note that in order for us to *ship* ICU on those platforms we're going to need to answer the same questions as those bugs any way
  2044. # [19:40] <@khuey> philor: :-(
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  2049. # [19:40] <@khuey> philor: warnings as errors is the worst thing ever
  2050. # [19:40] <@khuey> philor: do you want me to fix or back out?
  2051. # [19:41] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ^
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  2053. # [19:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> fix if it's an easy one
  2054. # [19:41] <smontagu> ehsan: so that brings us back to what I said in the first place, since if we aren't going to ship ICU on those platforms we don't want to use it instead of what we have now
  2055. # [19:41] <smontagu> there's no point in having two parallel implementations
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  2057. # [19:41] <@khuey> actually I'm just going to back out
  2058. # [19:41] <@khuey> who knows what other warnings are lurking
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  2060. # [19:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> fair enough :)
  2061. # [19:42] <@ehsan> smontagu: yeah, the thing is that the question of what to do with the intl API doesn't necessarily have the same answer as what to do to ship ICU...
  2062. # [19:42] <jcranmer|away> warnings-as-errors isn't bad
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  2064. # [19:42] <jcranmer|away> the fact that it's not enabled on developers' machines is
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  2075. # [19:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: did you see where Windows linker vsize is at these days for PGO?
  2076. # [19:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: TinderboxPrint: linker max vsize: 2770223104
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  2078. # [19:49] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah, unified builds ftw
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  2080. # [19:49] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: fwiw we're planning to merge gkmedias.dll back into xul.dll soon
  2081. # [19:49] <cpeterso> RyanVM: is 2770223104 good or bad?
  2082. # [19:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: yeah, that's huge
  2083. # [19:49] <@ehsan> yep
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  2085. # [19:49] <@ehsan> it's mostly coming from smaller .obj files
  2086. # [19:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> cpeterso: I have no clue. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=31686669&tree=Mozilla-Central is the good one
  2087. # [19:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bah
  2088. # [19:50] * Gijs is now known as Gijs_away
  2089. # [19:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2013/12/2013-12-09-05-34-02-mozilla-central/
  2090. # [19:50] <vlad> ehsan: adding NO_PRECOMPILED_HEADERS to Makefile.in makes me sad
  2091. # [19:50] <vlad> ehsan: can you add them to the passthrough moz.build flags?
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  2093. # [19:50] <@ehsan> vlad: I don't know how to yet, I was planning to copy what glandium is doing for the similar PGO flag
  2094. # [19:51] <@ehsan> vlad: will hopefully do that before landing this
  2095. # [19:51] <@ehsan> vlad: but I need feedback on the patch first, so feel free to give more feedback :)
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  2158. # [20:25] <decoder> RyanVM|sheriffduty: bug 948050 is interesting. we dont have that feature enabled..
  2159. # [20:25] <decoder> -fsanitize=use-after-return is experimental and we dont use it.. i wonder how that could have happened
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  2162. # [20:27] <decoder> RyanVM|sheriffduty: also since when do we have the jit-test output like that?
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  2164. # [20:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> decoder: awhile IIRC
  2165. # [20:27] <decoder> is there a bug that changed this?
  2166. # [20:27] <decoder> if you dont know it, then ill figure it out later
  2167. # [20:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I don't recall offhand
  2168. # [20:27] <decoder> i wasnt aware that we have this now
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  2172. # [20:28] <dustin> I'm having trouble running xpcshell-test on windows -- https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3743824 (for every test, that's just a screenful). Any idea what would cause every test to be treated as "failed or timed out"?
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  2177. # [20:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dustin: #ateam may be a better place to ask
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  2180. # [20:29] <dustin> oh, good call tx
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  2192. # [20:37] <@smaug> is m-i FF29 already?
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  2195. # [20:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: yes
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  2197. # [20:38] <@smaug> ah, good
  2198. # [20:38] <@smaug> though I guess I'll break it tomorrow
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  2200. # [20:38] <nemo> hey. is anyone here hip to CSS problems on Linux?
  2201. # [20:39] * philor changes topic to 'Next uplift 3 Feb || Want help, or want to help others? See #introduction || http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=developers'
  2202. # [20:39] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/piggie/#scale=10&sequence=1&frames=6&switchanim=1&b1.i=0&b2.i=0&b.i=1 renders blurry in linux, fine under OSX
  2203. # [20:39] <nemo> this is a new problem. it used to work fine
  2204. # [20:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: fwiw, I don't think that patch was responsible for the uptick in timeouts
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  2206. # [20:40] <@smaug> nemo: looks rather bad., though equally blurry on chrome
  2207. # [20:40] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, that must be the first time I heard a sheriff say something in favour of those tests :)
  2208. # [20:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: heh
  2209. # [20:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> we already timed out in M5 post-backout
  2210. # [20:41] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, I just wanted it off my list :)
  2211. # [20:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I looked at it last week and decided the timing wasn't right for that push
  2212. # [20:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it was my first suspicion as well
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  2215. # [20:42] <Ms2ger> Running those tests on Android doesn't add a lot of value anyway; it should all be cross-platform code
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  2219. # [20:42] <@njn> philor: Valgrind runs are now happening on more branches, and every push, but they should be hidden still. How does one hide them?
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  2222. # [20:43] <nemo> smaug: yeah.
  2223. # [20:43] <nemo> smaug: the problem is it is a regression in firefox
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  2225. # [20:43] <nemo> smaug: chrome never worked right
  2226. # [20:43] <philor> njn: we already did, since they are foolishing trying to clone the branch rev from the mozilla-central repo
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  2228. # [20:43] <philor> or foolishly, though I sort of like foolishing
  2229. # [20:43] <@njn> philor: I see the hg weirdness on inbound, I'll mention it in the bug
  2230. # [20:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> njn: way ahead of you :P
  2231. # [20:44] <@njn> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I still see the |V| job on the latest inbound push
  2232. # [20:44] <philor> reload
  2233. # [20:44] <philor> tbpl doesn't refresh the hiddenbuilders file
  2234. # [20:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> njn: tbpl doesn't reflect that automatically
  2235. # [20:45] <@njn> I still see it after reloading
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  2237. # [20:45] <philor> reload harder!
  2238. # [20:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> njn: it definitely WFM
  2239. # [20:45] <philor> THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A SHIFT KEY!
  2240. # [20:45] <@njn> ok, opening in a new tab works
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  2242. # [20:45] * @njn though "shift+reload" should work for that
  2243. # [20:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sounds like a Firefox bug :P
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  2245. # [20:46] <@njn> I blame australia
  2246. # [20:46] <@njn> *australis
  2247. # [20:46] * @njn keeps doing that
  2248. # [20:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> njn: bunch of criminals
  2249. # [20:46] * @khuey blames australia too
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  2260. # [20:48] <jesup> Oh menus, wherefore art thou? (speaking of Australis)
  2261. # [20:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> keeler: how goes that update?
  2262. # [20:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: the hamburger on the right
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  2264. # [20:49] <keeler> RyanVM|sheriffduty: almost done - just going to get review and then land
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  2266. # [20:49] <philor> jesup: they're under your Alt key
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  2271. # [20:50] <jesup> Nightly killed 23 of 24 windows (and 900 of 950 tabs, though some might see that as a win) when I tried to start the Australis verson (though more likely sessionstore changes at fault), but I had no menus (except via Alt, which I hate)
  2272. # [20:50] <jesup> Aurora for me for now!
  2273. # [20:50] <philor> itym Holly
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  2293. # [20:57] <jimm> Does anyone know if we have an australis bug tracking bug?
  2294. # [20:58] <@smaug> jaws: ^
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  2297. # [20:58] <jaws> jimm, alias is "australis"
  2298. # [20:58] <jimm> jackneill: cool thx
  2299. # [20:58] <jaws> heh
  2300. # [20:58] <jimm> oops
  2301. # [20:58] <jaws> np
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  2343. # [21:20] <mkaply_> I've got a shutdown hang that's happening on FF25 and FF26 (checking Aurora)
  2344. # [21:20] <mkaply_> basically you visit this site and Firefox won't shutdown properly.
  2345. # [21:21] <mkaply_> Works on nightly.
  2346. # [21:21] <mkaply_> www.stridestart.com
  2347. # [21:21] <mkaply_> Anyone know of anything like this that got fixed?
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  2350. # [21:22] <mkaply_> Works on Aurora. Weird.
  2351. # [21:23] <akeybl> jaws: ready for you to verify Aurora
  2352. # [21:23] * akeybl #### MERGE DAY IS NOW COMPLETE. TREES WILL OPEN AS THEY GREEN UP. CENTRAL IS NOW 29 ####
  2353. # [21:24] <jaws> akeybl, ok
  2354. # [21:24] <@bsmedberg> mkaply_: bug 938107
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  2356. # [21:24] <jaws> akeybl, i'll build Aurora locally and then let you know
  2357. # [21:25] <@bsmedberg> mkaply_: also see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/How_to_Report_a_Hung_Firefox
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  2359. # [21:25] <@smaug> do we have some helper code to spin event loop in tests
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  2371. # [21:29] <mkaply_> bsmedberg: That sounds like it is it
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  2378. # [21:32] <gaston> hmmm i'm getting a failure with enigmail build within seamonkey 2.23b2 (so gecko 26) where _xpidlgen/enigmail.xpt is not generated but the code tries to nsinstall it
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  2380. # [21:32] <gaston> does that ring a bell to anyone dealing with xpidl stuff ?
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  2382. # [21:33] <gaston> as if something was trying to access ${XPIDL_MODULE}.xpt..
  2383. # [21:34] <gaston> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3744124 for the log of a failing one with sm 2.23b2
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  2385. # [21:34] <froydnj> gaston: I thought XPIDL_MODULE got removed somewhere along the line
  2386. # [21:34] <gaston> and http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3744123 for a working one within sm 2.22
  2387. # [21:35] <gaston> froydnj: oh so you mean the fact that i have XPIDL_MODULE set in a makefile might mess things up ?
  2388. # [21:35] <froydnj> gaston: possibly?
  2389. # [21:36] <gaston> but it's been replaced by 'something' or just removed because useless ?
  2390. # [21:36] <jaws> *** Make version too old. Only versions strictly greater than 4.0 are supported.. Stop.
  2391. # [21:36] <jaws> 4:11.50 d:/ma/client.mk:400: recipe for target 'realbuild' failed
  2392. # [21:36] <jaws> how do i update my make version? i've been using mozmake
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  2394. # [21:37] <gaston> froydnj: hmmm or XPIDL_MODULE moved to moz.build it seems
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  2396. # [21:37] <jaws> gps, ping?
  2397. # [21:37] <jaws> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ping?
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  2399. # [21:38] <jaws> RyanVM, do you know how i can fix this "make version too old" error?
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  2403. # [21:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jaws: you can download the mozillabuild 1.9 beta on dev-platform
  2404. # [21:39] <jaws> do people *need* the beta?
  2405. # [21:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> or grab this : https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/birch/file/f418a2ae24bc/mozmake.exe
  2406. # [21:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and put it somewhere in your path
  2407. # [21:39] <jaws> i don't have a problem using it, but it seems odd that we will fail the build without running the meta
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  2409. # [21:39] <jaws> i've been using mozmake
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  2411. # [21:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I don't know what happened
  2412. # [21:39] <jaws> weird
  2413. # [21:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> glandium landed something last week that was supposed to relax things and some people have reported the same issue as you
  2414. # [21:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but mozmake is doing the same for you?
  2415. # [21:40] <jaws> i'm trying again
  2416. # [21:40] <jaws> that failed on mozilla-aurora. i'm trying now on fx-team
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  2421. # [21:42] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: A question
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  2423. # [21:42] <jaws> ryanvm, yep failed again
  2424. # [21:43] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Do you end up using the patches with approval in the bug, or the actual pushed changesets?
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  2426. # [21:43] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: As in, should I post the patches with review comments addressed, if I plan to request aurora approval?
  2427. # [21:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: if there's a branch-specific patch attached, I use that
  2428. # [21:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> otherwise, I export the cset landed
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  2430. # [21:43] <@bz> OK
  2431. # [21:43] * @bz just requests approvals
  2432. # [21:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yeah, sounds fine
  2433. # [21:43] <jaws> akeybl, current status is that i'm having issues building locally due to a mozmake bug
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  2435. # [21:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jaws: can you try backing out 394becd1ec49 locally and see if it works then?
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  2439. # [21:47] <jaws> ryanvm, trying now
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  2441. # [21:47] <gaston> what causes 'sdk/bin/xpt.py link' to be called ?
  2442. # [21:48] <philor> njn: but since the last two V runs on m-c have timed out on startup, not sure they'd be doing much better on other branches if they did clone the right tree
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  2445. # [21:49] <Optimizer> where does our css parser tests lie ?
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  2448. # [21:49] <philor> everywhere!
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  2450. # [21:50] <Optimizer> bye lie I meant directory path, not truth or lie
  2451. # [21:50] <Optimizer> by*
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  2453. # [21:50] <philor> I knew, but nothing stops me from grabbing a straight line
  2454. # [21:50] <@bz> Optimizer: layout/style for the most part, I would think
  2455. # [21:50] <@bz> Optimizer: what are you really looking for?
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  2457. # [21:50] <jaws> ryanvm, that fixed it for me
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  2459. # [21:51] <philor> mochitests and reftests and some browser-chrome thing that pokes at the console
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  2462. # [21:51] <philor> in a way that makes the console wish it would stop
  2463. # [21:52] <Optimizer> bz: I want a place with exhaustive set of css features in styles
  2464. # [21:52] <nrc> where can I find the reftest .list file for Ripc?
  2465. # [21:52] <Optimizer> as in all kinds of combination of stuff. I am assuming that our css tests would be doing that to test our css parser
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  2469. # [21:56] <philor> nrc: http://mxr.mozilla.org/build/source/buildbotcustom/steps/unittest.py#370
  2470. # [21:57] <nrc> thanks philor!
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  2474. # [21:57] <Optimizer> wow, css tests have comments like "These are probably bogus tests..."
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  2486. # [22:01] <@bz> Optimizer: I dunno that we have anything exhaustive
  2487. # [22:01] <reuben> Optimizer: I know right, you don't need to say that for tests
  2488. # [22:01] <@bz> Optimizer: but property_database is not a bad place to start
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  2492. # [22:02] <@bz> Optimizer: The tests are testing that our behavior doesn't change
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  2494. # [22:02] <@bz> Optimizer: the comment says that our behavior is probably bogus. ;)
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  2496. # [22:03] <Optimizer> :D
  2497. # [22:04] <Optimizer> t: "कखगघङचछजझञटठडढणतथदधनपफबभमयरलळवशषसह" :D
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  2499. # [22:04] <@bz> ?
  2500. # [22:04] <Optimizer> this is also in one of the css tests
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  2503. # [22:04] <Optimizer> I am just going through each one of them. no idea what is the context though,
  2504. # [22:05] <Optimizer> but god hindi sure does have a very very small font
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  2506. # [22:05] <daleharvey> dumb question, whats git reset --hard HEAD~1 in hg? (I did hg qimport -P a.patch && gh qfinish -a
  2507. # [22:05] <daleharvey> *hg
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  2512. # [22:07] <@bz> daleharvey: does that just strip off the HEAD revision?
  2513. # [22:07] <Ms2ger> daleharvey, hg qimp -r tip
  2514. # [22:07] * @bz isn't sure what HEAD~1 is in GIT
  2515. # [22:07] <daleharvey> yeh removes the last commit, HEAD~N removes N commits
  2516. # [22:08] <@bz> hg strip -r tip
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  2518. # [22:08] <Ms2ger> daleharvey, (that just makes it a patch again)
  2519. # [22:08] <@bz> or what Ms2ger said
  2520. # [22:08] <@bz> depending on whether you want it in your mq or just gone
  2521. # [22:08] <daleharvey> awesome, thanks both
  2522. # [22:08] <@bz> strip will just remove it
  2523. # [22:08] <Ms2ger> I don't assume you really want to remove it right after importing it :)
  2524. # [22:08] <@bz> which is more similar to --hard
  2525. # [22:08] <keeler> RyanVM|sheriffduty: just landed the preload list update
  2526. # [22:09] <daleharvey> I do, its my push to try tree
  2527. # [22:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> keeler: sweet, thanks
  2528. # [22:09] <keeler> RyanVM|sheriffduty: no problem :)
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  2530. # [22:10] <glandium> strip might also put you on an unrelated changeset, too, so you need hg update too
  2531. # [22:10] <glandium> bz: fwiw, foo~n, in git, means nth ancestor
  2532. # [22:11] <daleharvey> I managed to pull -u without the usual multiple head problem, so I think im good
  2533. # [22:11] <glandium> so foo~1 is the commit before foo, foo~2 the one before foo~1, etc.
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  2535. # [22:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> glandium: hearing multiple complaints about 394becd1ec49 (relaxing windows make requirements)
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  2537. # [22:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jaws was erroring out even when trying to use mozmake
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  2541. # [22:13] * Mook_as thought foo~n is also the nth ancestor in hg
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  2545. # [22:14] <glandium> Mook_as: it probably is, they added compatible notation
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  2547. # [22:14] <jaws> RyanVM|sheriffduty, glandium: yes i had to back it out to fix it
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  2550. # [22:15] <glandium> RyanVM|sheriffduty: that'd be because the very first mozmake had version 4.0, i guess, and it's actually not entirely safe to use, so it's probably better this way, and have them upgrade
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  2552. # [22:15] <glandium> i'll send a note to dev-platform
  2553. # [22:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jaws: weren't you still getting it with mozmake off birch tip?
  2554. # [22:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> that I linked you to earlier
  2555. # [22:15] <jaws> RyanVM|sheriffduty: the mozmake that i'm using i downloaded earlier
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  2557. # [22:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ...
  2558. # [22:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> oh
  2559. # [22:16] <glandium> RyanVM|sheriffduty: that would be surprising
  2560. # [22:16] <jaws> i didn't try using the one you linked to
  2561. # [22:16] <jaws> i thought they were the same
  2562. # [22:16] <glandium> jaws: they aren't
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  2564. # [22:16] <jaws> ok good to know
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  2568. # [22:17] <mconley> can't build mozilla-central on Windows - apparently my make is too old? But mozmake is 4.0... what gives?: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3744281
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  2571. # [22:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mconley: see above
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  2573. # [22:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> grab mozmake off birch tip
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  2575. # [22:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it's not current
  2576. # [22:18] <mconley> ah
  2577. # [22:18] <mconley> I see I'm not alone
  2578. # [22:18] <mconley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: excellent, thanks
  2579. # [22:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> glandium: like I was saying :P
  2580. # [22:18] <vlad> did we have some kind of cache changes or something recently?
  2581. # [22:18] * cpeterson|lunch is now known as cpeterson
  2582. # [22:18] <vlad> that would cause nice things like stylesheets to not load unless I shift-reload?
  2583. # [22:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> vlad: bmo?
  2584. # [22:19] <vlad> everything
  2585. # [22:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I see that on bmo when I hit back from time to time
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  2594. # [22:23] <glandium> RyanVM|sheriffduty: note sent
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  2597. # [22:23] <vlad> this is seriously broken
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  2600. # [22:23] <vlad> I restarted, now when I click on any tab I get "Firefox can't find the file at https://github.com/blah/blah" for every url
  2601. # [22:23] <vlad> unless I hit reload
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  2609. # [22:26] <gaston> sheppy: the new mdn is awesome :)
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  2612. # [22:27] <sheppy> gaston: thanks -- our team worked hard on it!
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  2614. # [22:28] <sheppy> We have more improvements coming down the line, but it's a big relief to have reached this point!
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  2616. # [22:29] <Waldo> glandium: prospects on the ICU-updating reviews in bug 924839? sorry for poking kind of early compared to normal, but I have some hopes we might be able to land this on aurora to avoid probably disabling the Intl stuff there, so earlier is better
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  2619. # [22:29] <glandium> Waldo: how big are the patches?
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  2622. # [22:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jorendorff: inbound linux64 mochitest-2 orange
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  2624. # [22:31] <jorendorff> RyanVM|sheriffduty: thanks, lookup
  2625. # [22:31] <jorendorff> er, looking
  2626. # [22:31] <Waldo> glandium: fairly small, mostly -- a few just remove our local patches because upstream already took them, one is a rebase of a local patch, one makes ICU build with c++0x with clang; the only tricky one makes some not-fully-trivial changes to an ICU C++ file, changing how ICU data gets converted to binary format; I don't actually know who'd be a good reviewer for that bit, because it's not...
  2627. # [22:31] <Waldo> ...just ICU plumbing changes
  2628. # [22:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jorendorff: heh, was gonna say
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  2630. # [22:32] <Waldo> glandium: maybe Norbert could do that last bit, possibly
  2631. # [22:33] <Waldo> I dunno how much we can ask of him, tho, given he's not under contract to us and all
  2632. # [22:33] <Waldo> I did my best to explain the issue in the bug comment for that patch
  2633. # [22:33] <Waldo> and discuss the ways I tested it to ensure it was correct
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  2635. # [22:33] <glandium> i'll try to look at them this week
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  2637. # [22:33] <Waldo> okay
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  2642. # [22:35] <jorendorff> RyanVM|sheriffduty: that's due to bug 793860 part 1 and part 2. parts 0a and 0b are still good. would you back parts 1 and 2 out please?
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  2644. # [22:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jorendorff: k
  2645. # [22:36] <jorendorff> weird - wonder why this didn't turn up on the try run
  2646. # [22:36] <@bz> How does the new MDN decide whether to show the TOC as a sidebar or dropdown?
  2647. # [22:36] <jorendorff> linux-only code maybe?
  2648. # [22:37] <jorendorff> oh, no, i bet it happened and i misinterpreted it as intermittent orange
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  2650. # [22:37] <KWierso> bz: probably screensize?
  2651. # [22:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jorendorff: wouldn't be the first time
  2652. # [22:37] <@bz> Doesn't seem to be
  2653. # [22:37] <@bz> since it's doing different things for me in different browsers (??)
  2654. # [22:37] <sheppy> bz: It's based on width.
  2655. # [22:37] <@bz> hrm
  2656. # [22:38] <@bz> with measured in what units?
  2657. # [22:38] <sheppy> bz: We switch to a dropdown on mobile.
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  2659. # [22:38] <sheppy> So there's some cutoff point; I don't know what it is.
  2660. # [22:38] <@bz> Chrome is getting the sidebar view at all widths
  2661. # [22:38] <sheppy> really? That's odd.
  2662. # [22:38] <@bz> I can confirm that it's changing with width in Firefox....
  2663. # [22:38] <@bz> But I'm so not on mobile
  2664. # [22:39] <@bz> and I get the dropdown
  2665. # [22:39] <sheppy> Yeah, we use width to adjust the layout, not whether it's mobile or not.
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  2667. # [22:39] <sheppy> We have three layouts: desktop, small desktop, and mobile, but they're really just width based
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  2669. # [22:39] <@bz> We seem to treat "1024px" as the "switch to mobile layout" thing
  2670. # [22:39] <@bz> or maybe "small desktop"?
  2671. # [22:39] <sheppy> That should be the small desktop mode
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  2674. # [22:40] <@bz> hmph
  2675. # [22:40] <@bz> ok
  2676. # [22:40] * @bz files bugs
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  2678. # [22:40] <sheppy> Chrome is switching views for me just fine...
  2679. # [22:40] <@bz> It's not for me, in a chrome dev build
  2680. # [22:40] <sheppy> Curious.
  2681. # [22:40] <KWierso> dpi issues?
  2682. # [22:40] <mccr8> I hope you aren't using a VGA monitor. ;)
  2683. # [22:41] <@bz> I'm using a 1920x1200 _monitor_
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  2685. # [22:41] <@bz> but my _windows_ are about 1000px across
  2686. # [22:41] <@bz> A bit less
  2687. # [22:41] <@bz> So I can have two of them side by side
  2688. # [22:41] <sheppy> bz: http://mzl.la/mdn-post-redesign-feedback
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  2691. # [22:41] <sheppy> That's the link to use to file bugs on our design :)
  2692. # [22:41] <@bz> sheppy: thanks!
  2693. # [22:41] <sheppy> That way you'll know our guys see it fast.
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  2695. # [22:43] <sheppy> And yeah, I think we probably should at least tweak the layout so that desktop view is used when two windows are side-by-side on an HD-resolution screen like that.
  2696. # [22:43] <ckerschb> khuey: ping
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  2698. # [22:44] <@bz> hrm
  2699. # [22:44] <@bz> the webidl docs are actually a lot less readable now
  2700. # [22:44] <@bz> The headings don't stand out as much
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  2702. # [22:45] <@bz> so you get more of a wall-of-text effect. :(
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  2704. # [22:45] <sheppy> webidl docs?
  2705. # [22:45] <@bz> sheppy: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/WebIDL_bindings
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  2707. # [22:45] <@bz> sheppy: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=948127 filed, fwiw
  2708. # [22:46] <sheppy> Oh. Yeah, we don't have the lines under the h1 and h2 headings anymore.
  2709. # [22:46] <ckerschb> bent: ping
  2710. # [22:46] <@bz> sheppy: Those aren't too terrible
  2711. # [22:46] <sheppy> That does make dense content like this even denser. Hm.
  2712. # [22:46] <@bz> sheppy: but the h3/h4 are pretty bad
  2713. # [22:46] <sheppy> Yeah... maybe we need a bit more space above those headings.
  2714. # [22:46] <@bz> sheppy: not sure what the right answer is here...
  2715. # [22:46] <sheppy> I'm going to file a bug on that.
  2716. # [22:46] <@khuey> ckerschb: pong
  2717. # [22:46] <@bz> sheppy: thanks!
  2718. # [22:46] <bent> ckerschb, pong
  2719. # [22:46] <sheppy> About the density of pages like this.
  2720. # [22:46] * @bz is a terrible ui designer. ;)
  2721. # [22:47] <ckerschb> khuey bent: it seems i am leaking memory, can't reproduce it locally though, any ideas: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=76e3387c7fb4
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  2723. # [22:48] <@bz> sheppy: apart from these nits, looks pretty nice!
  2724. # [22:48] <sheppy> bz - coolio!
  2725. # [22:48] <@khuey> ckerschb: what does your patch do?
  2726. # [22:48] <ckerschb> khuey: accounts for redirects when performing mixed content blocking
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  2728. # [22:49] <@khuey> :P
  2729. # [22:49] <ckerschb> khuey: it seems something is still holding on to a window - but i am using comPtr, so it should be fine, see also: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/76e3387c7fb4#l2.93
  2730. # [22:49] <@khuey> sounds complicated
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  2732. # [22:50] <@khuey> ckerschb: are you constructing a cycle between the channel and the document that is not torn down manually?
  2733. # [22:50] <ckerschb> khuey: probably
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  2735. # [22:51] <@khuey> ckerschb: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/76e3387c7fb4#l22.31
  2736. # [22:51] <ckerschb> can you guide me to an example real quick how to resolve that?
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  2738. # [22:51] <@khuey> ckerschb: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/base/src/nsBaseChannel.cpp#262
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  2741. # [22:51] <ckerschb> khuey: sounds reasonable - thx
  2742. # [22:52] <@khuey> ckerschb: also look at the error paths in nsBaseChannel::AsyncOpen
  2743. # [22:52] <@khuey> ckerschb: probably worth consolidating htose into a "drop cyclic references" function
  2744. # [22:52] <@khuey> ckerschb: anyways, give that a shot, let me know if it doesn't work
  2745. # [22:52] <ckerschb> khuey: definitely will, i guess that should fix it - thanks
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  2757. # [22:56] <jaws> RyanVM|sheriffduty: we can open the Aurora tree now
  2758. # [22:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> no we can't
  2759. # [22:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Android's busted
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  2761. # [22:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> why do I feel like I backed something out hte other day for a very similar reason too?
  2762. # [22:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=31700087&tree=Mozilla-Aurora
  2763. # [22:57] <jaws> ok sorry, but i just meant to tell you that the holly merge was good.
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  2773. # [23:01] <Fallen> Already asked in #xulrunner, but maybe someone here knows: Who controlls doing new xulrunner releases? There was a fix in 24.2.0 that might need to be put into a xulrunner release.
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  2835. # [23:38] <Callek> Fallen|away: there are xulrunner releases alongside with every "mainline" release (http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/xulrunner/releases/)
  2836. # [23:38] <Callek> (at least from the releng side, not sure on any product/website/etc data)
  2837. # [23:40] <nthomas> but not for esr, there was a newsgroup thread about this recently
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  2844. # [23:42] <jet> dmarcos: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Gecko:Overview is the page I mentioned at lunch last Friday.
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  2848. # [23:43] <dmarcos> :jet thanks!
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  2851. # [23:44] <@njn> philor: do I have to do something special with a bug to make it eligible for TBPL orange/red-matching?
  2852. # [23:45] <philor> njn: keyword intermittent-failure, plus having the summary include what tbpl is searching for
  2853. # [23:45] <@njn> philor: keyword's what I'm missing; thanks
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  2859. # [23:47] <catlee-mtg> lmandel: who I can poke to get some attention on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=943092 ?
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  2862. # [23:48] <lmandel> vladan: ^ Do you have anyone who can help with this?
  2863. # [23:49] <philor> oh, hey, didn't even know that was filed :)
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  2865. # [23:49] <@njn> philor: bug 948145 is the relevant bug, but it's still not matching
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  2868. # [23:50] <philor> njn: there's a bug cache, here, lemme clear it for you, though you'll still be confused by your browser very persistently caching
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  2872. # [23:50] <@njn> philor: thanks
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  2874. # [23:50] <@njn> philor: I'm just opening new tabs now rather than trying to reload
  2875. # [23:51] <philor> in cases like this, I usually switch to a different browser after killing tbpl's cache
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  2878. # [23:52] <@njn> philor: hey! it's working. thanks again
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  2880. # [23:52] <philor> np
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  2883. # [23:53] <@njn> philor: wait... it worked on one red, but not on a different identical one
  2884. # [23:53] * @njn fires up chrome
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  2886. # [23:53] <@njn> nope, chrome doesn't match it on that red V either
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  2888. # [23:55] <vladan> lmandel: we haven't done these types of shutdown investigations.. we added logging to record late writes during shutdown for the exit(0) project, but not generally memory leaks.. maybe someone in the memshrink crew might have better ideas?
  2889. # [23:55] <lmandel> catlee-mtg: ^
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  2891. # [23:57] <philor> njn: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getLogExcerpt.php?type=annotated&regenerate=1&;id= with the id you pull from the brief log URL
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  2894. # [23:57] <philor> and then switch to yet another browser, now that you've got chrome caching at least one, too :)
  2895. # [23:58] <mccr8> catlee-mtg: jst may have some idea of who could work on that
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