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1. # Session Start: Tue Dec 10 00:00:00 2013
2. # Session Ident: #developers
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4. # [00:00] <@njn> philor: so that page has a bunch of spew on it... and loading in safari I still don't get matches
5. # [00:00] <@njn> philor: was I supposed to do something other than load that page?
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9. # [00:01] <philor> njn: you were supposed to load the brief log for the particular failure you want to star, copy the id out of it, paste it in at the end of that URL, load that, see that it includes your bug as a suggestion, then click on that particular failure in a new browser
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11. # [00:01] <@njn> philor: I did all that
12. # [00:02] <philor> or just wait for the caches to expire and star by hand in the meantime
13. # [00:02] <philor> it's not like they're about to become visible
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15. # [00:02] <@njn> philor: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getLogExcerpt.php?type=annotated&regenerate=1&id=31654180 was the url
16. # [00:02] <@njn> philor: ok, I'll wait a bit, see if that helps
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22. # [00:03] <RyanVM|afk> njn: i see bug 948145 in that list
23. # [00:03] <RyanVM|afk> which is what you want
24. # [00:03] <@njn> RyanVM|afk: yeah
25. # [00:03] <RyanVM|afk> future builds will pick it up (it doesn't work retroactively)
26. # [00:04] <philor> well, regen does
27. # [00:04] <@njn> RyanVM|afk: ah, ok
28. # [00:04] <@njn> thanks
29. # [00:04] <philor> just not in a browser where you've already loaded it
30. # [00:04] <jwatt> ehsan: ping
31. # [00:04] <@ehsan> jwatt: hi
32. # [00:04] <jwatt> ehsan: you tried to build non-xcode gdb on mac, right?
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34. # [00:04] <jwatt> did you ever get that working?
35. # [00:04] <philor> njn: what tree is 31654180 from?
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37. # [00:04] <jwatt> lldb is completely failing for the thing I'm trying to debug
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39. # [00:05] <jwatt> I need something else
40. # [00:05] <@ehsan> jwatt: *long time ago*, and no
41. # [00:05] <@njn> philor: m-c
42. # [00:05] <@ehsan> jwatt: jdm was working on that I think?
43. # [00:05] * jdm perks up
44. # [00:05] <@ehsan> jdm: y u no gdb on mac?
45. # [00:05] <jdm> heh heh, trunk gdb
46. # [00:05] <jwatt> jdm: magic working gdb?
47. # [00:05] <jdm> good times
48. # [00:05] <yeukhon> anyone here ever written a mochitest requires waiting on an absence of a message (timeout) and then invert that failure to PASS?
49. # [00:05] <jwatt> yeah, that was my experience
50. # [00:05] <mattwoodrow> jwatt: I tried too, and failed
51. # [00:05] <heycam> jwatt, what's failing for you with lldb? I've been mostly happy with it
52. # [00:05] <jdm> I used to submit build fixes every quarter
53. # [00:06] <jdm> and then it still never quite worked right
54. # [00:06] <jwatt> heycam: me too, but it's getting corrupt when trying to walk up a rule tree
55. # [00:06] <mattwoodrow> heycam: If only it could debug reftests :(
56. # [00:06] <heycam> mattwoodrow, indeed... :\
57. # [00:06] <mattwoodrow> the little things...
58. # [00:06] <heycam> jwatt, corrupt how?
59. # [00:07] <Waldo> jduell: mind flipping your f+ to r+ on bug 945533, now that there's higher-up say-so?
60. # [00:07] <jwatt> heycam:
61. # [00:07] <jwatt> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3744788
62. # [00:07] <philor> njn: and having not ever loaded that one in this browser, I see it suggested, though I don't for the next one over
63. # [00:07] <heycam> jwatt, oh yeah! I got that too I remember now
64. # [00:08] <decoder> RyanVM|afk: bug 948171 for the missing symbols :)
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67. # [00:09] <@njn> philor: hopefully it'll work reliably for future cases
68. # [00:09] <heycam> jwatt, I actually have a patch in my local tree to de-templatize FixedStyleStructArray to avoid that problem
69. # [00:09] <heycam> if you're interested
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71. # [00:10] <jduell> Waldo: done.
72. # [00:10] <jwatt> heycam: yes, please
73. # [00:10] <Waldo> hmm, bugzilla fail
74. # [00:10] <Waldo> jduell: thanks!
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77. # [00:11] <heycam> jwatt, https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3744789
78. # [00:11] <jwatt> heycam: thank you
79. # [00:11] <heycam> np
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86. # [00:16] <jwatt> heycam: did you find a way to get a FILE* to stdout in lldb?
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89. # [00:16] <heycam> jwatt, same as in gdb on mac... (FILE*)__stdoutp
90. # [00:17] <jwatt> huh, that didn't work for me
91. # [00:17] <jwatt> what xcode version are you using?
92. # [00:17] <heycam> oh hmm it's worked for me I think
93. # [00:17] <heycam> 5.0.2
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95. # [00:17] <jwatt> 5.0.2?
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98. # [00:18] * jwatt is using 5.0.1, and just right _now_ checked for updates and was told there are none
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100. # [00:19] <heycam> Version 5.0.2 (5A3005)
101. # [00:19] <heycam> are you on Mavericks?
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105. # [00:19] <heycam> oh of course you would be, otherwise you wouldn't be forced to be using lldb :)
106. # [00:20] <jwatt> no 10.8
107. # [00:20] <jwatt> I chose to use lldb because gdb is completely unusable
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109. # [00:20] <heycam> ah ok
110. # [00:20] <jwatt> xcode's version, that is
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114. # [00:22] <heycam> jwatt, my /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.9.sdk/usr/include/stdio.h defines __stdoutp then #defines stdout to it
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133. # [00:39] <@khuey> KWierso|sheriffduty: ping
134. # [00:39] <KWierso|sheriffduty> khuey: yo
135. # [00:39] <@khuey> KWierso|sheriffduty: the last few stars in bug 922919 look different
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137. # [00:40] <KWierso|sheriffduty> khuey: yeah, realized after I starred them as that that they were from bustage that was backed out
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139. # [00:40] <KWierso|sheriffduty> TBPL's suggestion line matched up :(
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146. # [00:45] <luke> KWierso|sheriffduty: b2g already branched off trunk, yes?
147. # [00:46] <@khuey> yes
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149. # [00:46] <luke> great
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181. # [01:02] <glandium> could someone try this patch and see if running mochitests, xpcshell tests and reftests locally still works? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3745044 (needs a clobber, or at least, emptying $objdir/dist/bin and $objdir/dist/xpi-stage)?
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200. # [01:13] <gozala> mrbkap: are you a good person for iframes security related question ?
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202. # [01:14] <gozala> mrbkap: and if not, do you know whom I can talk to about it ?
203. # [01:14] <mrbkap> gozala: What's the question?
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205. # [01:14] <gozala> mrbkap: here is examples https://gist.github.com/Gozala/7883551
206. # [01:15] <gozala> basically we want nested iframes for add-on toolbars
207. # [01:15] <gozala> actual add-on document will be loaded in the inner frame
208. # [01:15] <gozala> and it should be able to communicate with add-on by window.parent.postMessage
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210. # [01:16] <gozala> so add-on will register message listener in the outer frame
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213. # [01:17] <gozala> mrbkap: ^ I’m running into security error in the comment if I use html iframes
214. # [01:17] <@njn> nrc: can bug 915940 be closed?
215. # [01:17] <gozala> which I guess makes sense
216. # [01:17] <gozala> and srcdoc does not work for xul iframes
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220. # [01:18] <gozala> mrbkap: I don’t actually know if `srcdoc` with xul iframes would have solved that issue for me
221. # [01:18] <nrc> njn: I guess we should try and get memory reporters for Moz2D - there didn't seem to be an easy solution at the time. It is on my todo list, but kinda low down.
222. # [01:18] <@njn> nrc: is it worth spinning that off as a separate bug?
223. # [01:19] <nrc> njn: I'd say yes, but there is quite a lot of info in the comments, so I'm not sure
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229. # [01:21] <ZiNC> Hey.
230. # [01:21] <daleharvey> anyone know why I would be getting crashes in Layour. gtests when I am trying to filter apzc only - http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3745065
231. # [01:22] <daleharvey> *layout
232. # [01:22] <gozala> mrbkap: I can come to your desk and show what exactly I’m trying to do if that works for you
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234. # [01:23] <smacleod> billm: ping
235. # [01:23] <@njn> philor: do you normally star hidden tests?
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238. # [01:24] <fox2mike> who closed the trees?
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244. # [01:26] <RyanVM|afk> fox2mike: philor
245. # [01:26] <RyanVM|afk> see #releng
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247. # [01:27] <RyanVM|afk> njn: philor sees all
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263. # [01:37] <philor> njn: yes, I star everything, all my tbpl tabs are &showall=1
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268. # [01:38] <philor> luke: did you break Android?
269. # [01:40] <mrbkap> gozala: sorry, yes.
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274. # [01:41] <mrbkap> gozala: I'm not super familiar with srcdoc though :(
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277. # [01:42] <billm> smacleod: pong
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279. # [01:43] <smacleod> billm: Hey, I'm adding some Telemetry to the Session Store frame script. I wanted to know what your opinion on this is for e10s
280. # [01:43] <sewardj> mjrosenb: ping
281. # [01:43] <smacleod> i.e. Should I disable this somehow if remote tabs is on, or do something else, or just leave it for now?
282. # [01:44] <smacleod> (leaving it since Session Store is disabled with remote tabs anyways)
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284. # [01:45] <mjrosenb> sewardj: pong
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286. # [01:45] <billm> smacleod: I think it's fine to leave it on. it might bias the numbers a little bit, but I doubt it will make a big difference. and if there are any big spikes caused by e10s, we'd like to know about them.
287. # [01:45] <sewardj> mjrosenb: pinging re 867597 .. shall I land it, or do you want to?
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290. # [01:46] <smacleod> billm: Oh, so will telemetry just work from within the frame script when tabs are remote?
291. # [01:46] * mjrosenb was unaware that he had any unlanded patches
292. # [01:46] <billm> smacleod: uh, let me make sure
293. # [01:46] <mjrosenb> one sec, swapdeath.
294. # [01:47] <smacleod> billm: (TelemetryTmiestamps.jsm / TelemetryStopwatch.jsm etc.)
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299. # [01:48] <billm> smacleod: actually, it looks like telemetry data from child processes is just dropped. so maybe it doesn't matter for now.
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301. # [01:48] <smacleod> billm: ah okay, thanks for the info
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308. # [01:50] <mjrosenb> sewardj: you can land it. it is your patch, afterall.
309. # [01:50] <sewardj> mjrosenb: k, thx.
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347. # [02:19] <@njn> philor: any idea what might be causing the Valgrind hangs? I ask that seriously because they only started happening yesterday, and they don't always happen in the same place
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350. # [02:19] <@njn> philor: and they only started happening after I did those very-verbose logging runs
351. # [02:20] <@njn> philor: I don't suppose a disk could be full and silently causing problems, or something
352. # [02:21] <philor> njn: most jobs have a step at the start to ensure that they have as much disk free as they need, dunno whether V does, or whether its amount hasn't been adjusted since it was first set up
353. # [02:21] <@njn> philor: though only about 3 logging runs occurred, so the failure wouldn't be so widespread... it's happening on lots of different machiens, AFAICT
354. # [02:22] <@njn> in a lot of them Valgrind doesn't even start
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358. # [02:24] <philor> njn: the tip of m-c, timed out, "110.89 GB of space available"
359. # [02:24] <philor> so I sort of hope you're not running out of disk
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363. # [02:24] <@njn> philor: yeah
364. # [02:24] * @njn scratches head
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367. # [02:26] <@njn> philor: have you seen "IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'branches.json'" before? you starred it
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370. # [02:27] <philor> njn: my theory is that it was catlee-away's first attempt at fixing the failure to clone the right repo
371. # [02:27] <philor> and I resemble the accusation that I starred something without having ever seen it
372. # [02:27] <@njn> philor: ok, I'll ignore that one
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377. # [02:33] <nthomas> njn: I have a machine with valgrind still running after a timeout, anything I can poke at for you ?
378. # [02:33] <@njn> nthomas: oh,hmm
379. # [02:33] <@njn> nthomas: can you attach gdb to the running valgrind process?
380. # [02:33] <@njn> nthomas: and how many such processes are there?
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382. # [02:34] <nthomas> njn: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3745424
383. # [02:35] <nthomas> hmm, no gdb
384. # [02:35] <@njn> nthomas: does |top| indicate it's doing work (CPU) or just idle?
385. # [02:36] <@njn> nthomas: and which revid is this for?
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387. # [02:36] <nthomas> holly 4ce6a734a9e2. ps says it's about 15% CPU, top says none
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392. # [02:38] <nthomas> gah, one of our cleanup routines just rebooted it
393. # [02:38] <@njn> nthomas: oh well
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395. # [02:39] <@njn> nthomas: Valgrind doesn't even get to the point where it starts printing its start-up message, which is really weird
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397. # [02:39] <nthomas> was just about to strace it too
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405. # [02:41] <@njn> nthomas: though some of the other timeouts occurred right near the end of Valgrind's run
406. # [02:41] <@njn> which is also really weird
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408. # [02:41] <BenWa> bsmedberg: ping, Can you tell me what 'intr' ipdl messages are?
409. # [02:41] <@njn> like, one of the messages printed at the end was truncated
410. # [02:41] <BenWa> I see they mean interrupt
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418. # [02:46] <@njn> nthomas: I'll try turning on more logging (though not the ridiculous amount from the other day)
419. # [02:46] <nthomas> njn: we could also loan you 'machine'
420. # [02:47] <@njn> nthomas: ok. let me see if the logging helps; if not, a loaner is probably the next step
421. # [02:48] <@njn> nthomas: thanks
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440. # [02:57] <@roc> what "infra" is holding the tree closed?
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442. # [02:58] <@roc> njn: I just accepted a spot on the ISMM committee for 2014
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445. # [02:59] <@njn> roc: cool
446. # [02:59] <@njn> roc: who's the chair?
447. # [02:59] <@njn> kathryn or steve? :)
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451. # [03:00] <@roc> Sam Guyer
452. # [03:00] <@njn> roc: goodness! my old office mate
453. # [03:00] <@roc> I may hit you up for a review or two :-)
454. # [03:00] <@njn> roc: and Jeremy Singer is the publicity chair? another old office-mate!
455. # [03:00] <@njn> this is hilarious
456. # [03:01] <@njn> roc: I guess, though I don't know much these days
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458. # [03:01] <@njn> roc: no GC papers, please
459. # [03:01] <@roc> neither do I so that won't hurt
460. # [03:01] <@njn> pleeeeeeease
461. # [03:02] <@roc> I'll probably do some background reading when the time comes
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465. # [03:02] <@roc> any incremental GC work I can just r- for being boring
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468. # [03:03] <@njn> roc: lol
469. # [03:03] <@roc> my main role at PCs for the last several years has to been to denounce papers about problems that academics just made up so they could publish something
470. # [03:04] <@roc> needless to say, that keeps me busy
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472. # [03:04] <KWierso|sheriffduty> roc: looks like philor reopened the trees
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475. # [03:05] <philor> sheesh, don't tell *him*
476. # [03:05] <@roc> sweet
477. # [03:05] <@roc> don't worry, I'm only pushing to try
478. # [03:05] <@roc> ... for now
479. # [03:05] <KWierso|sheriffduty> I mean, uh, no he didn't
480. # [03:05] <philor> wolfpack: looks like a wobbly moose calf just stood up for the first time
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482. # [03:06] <@njn> roc: good; someone has to do it
483. # [03:06] <@njn> roc: actually, that's not true, but it's good when someone does do it
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488. # [03:11] <philor> I think...
489. # [03:11] <philor> !seen wolfpack
490. # [03:12] <philor> that I should remember firey's awol
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492. # [03:12] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: wasn't it firewolfbot or something?
493. # [03:12] <philor> huh, and did killer finally stop with his "I've never seen anyone, now STFU!" thing?
494. # [03:13] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: yeah, that's one of firebot's alter egos, but I think there was a wolfpack in #firefox years ago
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496. # [03:14] <philor> well, there's one in #firefox after any large UI change, but I think there was a user with that nick
497. # [03:14] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: did all of the merge commits just break our firebot?
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536. # [03:37] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: any ideas on those four red android builds on inbound?
537. # [03:37] <KWierso|sheriffduty> (re, what they are)
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539. # [03:37] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: dunno, needs-clobber maybe
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541. # [03:38] <philor> the green things aren't unanimous in admitting that they were clobbers, but mostly, and the reds are unanimous in admitting they weren't
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543. # [03:39] <philor> I clobberered, but didn't much feel like touching CLOBBER
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545. # [03:40] <philor> "Bug idunno - Dunno needed a clobber on Android or not, because something or nothing"
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554. # [03:44] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: and that orange Gu on fx-team that looks like that thing that it isn't?
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556. # [03:47] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: I think you mean "I'll wait for one of the concerned people who feel that Gu should have a bug or 52 bugs of its own to file the bug or 52 bugs and then I'll star it"
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560. # [03:48] <philor> because clearly that thing which nobody has the slightest idea what it is or how to debug it any further is not the other thing that nobody has the slightest idea what it is or how to debug it any further, so I'm certain the people who keep saying "but this is not that" will file a bug soon
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571. # [03:53] <philor> "JavaScript error: http://localhost:8888/index.html, line 55: Quitter is not defined"
572. # [03:53] <philor> that's the spirit!
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575. # [03:55] <@njn> philor: so that's new? I just noticed it too
576. # [03:56] <philor> njn: don't draw any conclusions thinking that I actually read and remember logs
577. # [03:56] <@njn> wouldn't dream of it
578. # [03:56] <philor> I haven't seen it and thought "hey, I could make a joke about that!" before, but it could easily be in every log and every PGO build log for the last five years
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583. # [03:58] <@njn> philor: I looked in a log from a few days ago and didn't see it
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593. # [04:04] <@njn> nthomas: ping
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595. # [04:04] <nthomas> pong
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597. # [04:04] <@njn> nthomas: can you access the machine doing the valgrind run for m-c id=31717604
598. # [04:05] <@njn> ?
599. # [04:05] <@njn> that's the current m-c tip, 3rd "V" invocation
600. # [04:05] <@njn> it just failed
601. # [04:05] <nthomas> a revision would be awesome
602. # [04:05] <@njn> and I might have the require magic to attach to gdb
603. # [04:05] <@njn> nthomas: 75c0c92d7fa4
604. # [04:06] <nthomas> we're rebooting now, so won't the state be gone already ?
605. # [04:06] <@njn> nthomas: oh
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607. # [04:06] <@njn> nthomas: why did that one earlier hang around?
608. # [04:07] <nthomas> njn: we weren't rebooting before, but I don't know why buildbot's SIGKILL didn't stop valgrind
609. # [04:07] <nthomas> possibly something to do with the shell wrapper
610. # [04:07] <@njn> bleargh
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612. # [04:08] <@njn> this sucks
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615. # [04:09] <@njn> nthomas: so this wasn't happening until recently. Just before it started happening, I tweaked the valgrind invocation to do some *very* verbose logging, in order to debug a problem. There were three such runs, each of which had to be killed; the longest one ran for over 1100 minute before being killed.
616. # [04:09] <@njn> nthomas: since I turned the logging back off, this problem has been frequent.
617. # [04:09] <@njn> nthomas: any thoughts why that might have an effect?
618. # [04:10] <@njn> nthomas: I hit the 50MB limit with those three runs
619. # [04:10] <nthomas> yay, many moving parts
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624. # [04:12] <@njn> nthomas: I'll take that as a "no"...
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630. # [04:13] <nthomas> if there is a chance this is a problem with the code in m-c et al I would iterate on some fixed revision
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632. # [04:14] <nthomas> you can change the script, and use tbpl to rebuild your m-c rev and it will take the tip of the build/tools repo
633. # [04:14] <@njn> nthomas: yeah, I've been doing that
634. # [04:14] <nthomas> oh
635. # [04:14] <@njn> I guess I can try triggering some of those old, pre-logging runs
636. # [04:14] <nthomas> unless you were happening to hit machines with valgrind jobs hanging around in the background (fairly unlikely) I don't know what else could be happening here
637. # [04:14] <@njn> hmm, that might not help much
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639. # [04:16] <nthomas> alternatively, if you put in a loan request now you should get it by the time you start tomorrow
640. # [04:16] <@njn> nthomas: what can I do with a loaner?
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642. # [04:16] <nthomas> actual machine access to debug faster
643. # [04:16] <@njn> I can trigger my own tbpl runs?
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645. # [04:17] <nthomas> at the cost of needing to follow the goop in the log to get into the same environement
646. # [04:17] <nthomas> no, it'd be disconnected from tbpl at that point
647. # [04:18] <@njn> nthomas: but I can do my own Firefox builds?
648. # [04:18] <nthomas> sure, it'd a build slave
649. # [04:18] <nthomas> *it'd be
650. # [04:18] <nthomas> the same class of machine that's doing the V jobs now
651. # [04:18] <@njn> nthomas: ok, how do I request one?
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653. # [04:19] <nthomas> https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/How_To/Request_a_slave
654. # [04:19] <@njn> thanks
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659. # [04:21] <@njn> nthomas: bug 948250
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707. # [05:04] <KWierso|sheriffduty> sunfish: you broke android?
708. # [05:04] <KWierso|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=31720138&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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710. # [05:05] <philor> s/?/./
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712. # [05:08] <seth> am i wrong in thinking that there's no way to enable/disable PGO builds with trychooser? i don't see it
713. # [05:09] <philor> https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryChooser#What_if_I_want_PGO_for_my_build
714. # [05:09] <seth> philor: thanks!
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716. # [05:12] <glob> current doing a bmo update; you may get errors while searching until the push is complete
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718. # [05:12] <KWierso|sheriffduty> glob: oh that's what that was
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721. # [05:14] <glob> first push of the day complete, should be ok now
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731. # [05:24] <bz> philor: on the bright side, we're slowly getting better docs for gu
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733. # [05:25] <philor> little gu might just survive, if only we can find the right docs
734. # [05:25] <bz> philor: heh
735. # [05:25] <bz> "B2G Desktop Linux x64 Opt" is the only place we run Gu, right?
736. # [05:26] * bz wonders why no debug....
737. # [05:26] <philor> I think there's a bug for that
738. # [05:26] <philor> as is so often the case
739. # [05:27] <philor> running on debug on Cedar
740. # [05:27] <philor> where by debug I mean "not debug"
741. # [05:27] <philor> Mac and Linux32 opt
742. # [05:29] <philor> but at least I was right about the existence of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=916113 and its little dependency pal https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=916111
743. # [05:29] <bz> $%^$%^%$^$%
744. # [05:29] * bz watches clobber totally fail and delete the wrong dir
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747. # [05:30] <heycam> has anyone else seen js regexes misbehaving recently?
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750. # [05:33] * bz wonders how many of those patches he has in bugs and how many he'll need to rewrite
751. # [05:33] <nrc> whoops!
752. # [05:33] <nrc> seriously? :-(
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757. # [05:36] <bz> yes, seriously
758. # [05:36] <bz> rm -rf in the parent of the srcdir....
759. # [05:36] * glob blinks
760. # [05:36] <bz> which of course deleted .hg/patches before deleting anything I didn't care about like the srctree
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762. # [05:37] <bz> (because I can like _pull_ the srctree)
763. # [05:37] <heycam> :\
764. # [05:37] <nrc> that seems like a pretty serious bug in cliobber
765. # [05:38] <bz> well, it's a bug in copy/paste
766. # [05:38] <aja> heycam: latest css vars try build no longer crashes in inspector for me....good job!
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768. # [05:38] <bz> there was supposed to be an objdir name after the ../
769. # [05:38] <bz> but that failed
770. # [05:38] <heycam> aja, great :)
771. # [05:38] * bz should have just turned on autoclobber
772. # [05:38] <bz> Why is that off again?
773. # [05:39] <nrc> eek, that is ... unfortunate
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787. # [05:49] <heycam> why http://mcc.id.au/temp/match.png
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794. # [05:59] <yeukhon> okay probably gonna just set audio. need time to pick up apple script.
795. # [05:59] <yeukhon> just record*
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797. # [06:01] <yeukhon> ah wrong channel
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805. # [06:08] <aja> heycam: you implemented 29 Oct 2013 Draft? including fallback values?
806. # [06:08] <heycam> aja, yes fallback values should work
807. # [06:08] * aja hasn't tested fallback values yet
808. # [06:08] * heycam has a bunch of tests for them
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812. # [06:09] <aja> heycam: know if chrome has fallback value support planned soon?
813. # [06:09] <heycam> aja, dunno what their plans are
814. # [06:10] <aja> otherwise stuff that works in ff will fail syntax in chrome
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816. # [06:11] <heycam> my regex problem above (on linux) seems to go away when I build with gcc instead of clang
817. # [06:11] * heycam shrugs
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822. # [06:19] <heycam> is there a way I can force XUL notifications instead of native ones?
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860. # [07:05] <reuben> heycam|away: /pref/.test ?
861. # [07:05] <reuben> oh god, it's 4AM
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868. # [07:14] <philor> njn: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=31726798&tree=Mozilla-Inbound is without V, just the build, right?
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903. # [07:52] <@njn> philor: indeed!
904. # [07:52] <@njn> philor: very interesting
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906. # [07:54] <philor> but then I tried to reach some conclusion, and failed
907. # [07:55] <@njn> philor: in other experiments, the nightly run from Dec 5 when retriggered a bunch is ok, but the one from Dec 6 is not
908. # [07:55] <@njn> philor: which suggests something landed in m-c on Dec 5 that causes this
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910. # [07:55] * philor blames glandium, without looking at what day that was
911. # [07:56] <glandium> what's the problem?
912. # [07:57] <philor> valgrind times out after 1200 seconds without output, either starting up (without outputting anything), or somewhere down the line
913. # [07:58] <philor> I wanted to blame a pgo-profile change, but the timing's not very good for that
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915. # [08:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning
916. # [08:01] <@njn> glandium: but it's not actually valgrind timing out, because I changed the config to run natively and the timeout still happens
917. # [08:01] <philor> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?fromchange=1401e4b394ad&tochange=42b2a2adda8f
918. # [08:02] <philor> well, though it could be --enable-valgrind, whatever that now does, since the PGO builds aren't blowing up
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920. # [08:03] <@njn> philor: true... but --enable-valgrind doesn't change all that much
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923. # [08:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm philor last time i saw this error i backed out https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=945042
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925. # [08:06] <philor> Tomcat|sheriffduty: different timeout, that's httpd.js failing to start up, not buildbot getting pissed about not seeing output for an arbitrary 1200 seconds
926. # [08:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> philor: ok
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932. # [08:10] <mjrosenb> uh-oh
933. # [08:10] <mjrosenb> I was going to go get dinner 2 hours ago
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938. # [08:13] <crypt> !seen jmaher
939. # [08:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> seems firebot is not here
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941. # [08:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> crypt: jmaher is usally in about 6 hours or so
942. # [08:15] <glob> logbot, seen jmaher
943. # [08:15] <logbot> glob, 3 days and 16 hours ago: <jmaher> jwatt: thanks for commenting in the bug; glad we got the perf fixed
944. # [08:15] <glob> that sounds wrong
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947. # [08:16] <crypt> thanks for the information :)
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954. # [08:18] <glob> happy bmo push day! https://globau.wordpress.com/2013/12/10/happy-bmo-push-day-75/
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956. # [08:18] <glob> note: http://globau.wordpress.com/2012/10/16/coming-attraction-comment-tagging/ just landed
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961. # [08:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glob: ++ cool
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963. # [08:23] <philor> "create a script to delete all bugs from the database"? \o/
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1051. # [09:45] <TheOne> ugh, Nightly doesn't start because pgort100.dll is missing...next alert is "Failed to load XPCOM"
1052. # [09:46] <TheOne> err "Couldn't load XPCOM"
1053. # [09:47] <Standard8> that was fixed yesterday I believe
1054. # [09:47] <Standard8> with a respin of the nightlies
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1056. # [09:48] <Gijs> Did we respin l10n nightlies as well after yesterday's xpcom pgort100.dll fiasco?
1057. # [09:48] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ^^
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1059. # [09:49] * TheOne is redownloading yesterday's nightly
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1062. # [09:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: so we respun the nightly
1063. # [09:49] <gcp> Gijs: yes
1064. # [09:50] <gcp> oh wait, didn't read the question carefully enough
1065. # [09:50] <gcp> the question, quite correctly, was raised why we launch nightly builds on changesets that aren't all green :P
1066. # [09:50] <TheOne> Standard8: yes, that fixed it, thx!
1067. # [09:51] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: btw the bug all this was https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=947916
1068. # [09:51] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> at least for the error from TheOne :)
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1072. # [09:54] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: right. I was really only wondering if we respun the l10n ones as well as the 'regular' en-US ones.
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1075. # [09:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: guess so, but i'm not that familiar with that nightly process
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1077. # [09:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> when we discovered and zzzzz notified us that the nightlies were broken we retriggered the nightlys based on the new changeset and releng was also notified
1078. # [09:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> for the updates and so
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1080. # [09:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> i would think that retrigger a nightly also retrigger the l10n builds
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1082. # [09:57] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: do we have even nightly l10n's at least http://nightly.mozilla.org/ say en-us for desktop
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1089. # [10:01] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gcp: yeah not saying that we should build on non-green builds but there is also no 100%-safe thing that nightlies work like the old You will find bugs, and lots of them. Mozilla might crash on startup. It might delete all your files and cause your computer to burst into flames. :)
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1091. # [10:02] <nthomas|away> Gijs: the en-US build kicks off nightly builds, but sometimes we have issues with l10n if there are multiple nightlies per day
1092. # [10:02] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla-central-l10n/
1093. # [10:02] <nthomas|away> *kicks off l10n
1094. # [10:02] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: (via "other nightly builds" on that page, but yes, admittedly quite hidden)
1095. # [10:03] <Gijs> nthomas|away: OK, thanks for explaining :)
1096. # [10:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah cool
1097. # [10:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> thanks nthomas|away and Gijs :)
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1099. # [10:03] <nthomas|away> Gijs: np, and thank you for the foxclocks+australis fix
1100. # [10:04] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nthomas|away: btw since you are here i kicked again the device builds on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Aurora
1101. # [10:04] <Gijs> nthomas|away: oh, heh, welcome :)
1102. # [10:04] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> seems there was a git issue or so
1103. # [10:04] <nthomas|away> I'm not really here, despite the electrons you see convincing you otherwise
1104. # [10:04] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
1105. # [10:05] <nthomas|away> oh nice, the mapper doesn't know that revision
1106. # [10:05] <nthomas|away> I wonder if that conversion got turned back on
1107. # [10:06] <nthomas|away> dear bugilla, my review can't be outstanding (ie awesome) if I haven't done it yet
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1120. # [10:19] <gcp> Tomcat|sheriffduty: sure, we can't be safe. But building if we know it's going to be busted is meh.
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1127. # [10:27] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gcp: yeah
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1140. # [10:34] <nthomas|away> those aurora device builds seem much happier now. not sure why there are so many though
1141. # [10:35] <nthomas|away> ie they're past the mapper error they hit before
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1143. # [10:35] <nthomas|away> might have been the hg -> git conversion was still chewing on the merge from holly
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1158. # [10:44] <Fallen> can I sign a windows dll from mac?
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1164. # [10:52] <dougc> Is anyone else seeing corruption in the hg mozilla-central repository? Hg verify is detecting problems for me, and two attempts to clone away the damage and re-pull keep giving the same problem.
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1169. # [10:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> dougc: will check
1170. # [10:55] <Gijs> dougc: what step do you see problems in?
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1172. # [10:55] <Gijs> (assuming you have progress indicators turned on)
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1176. # [10:58] <dougc> gijs: hg verify detects 'checking files: accessible/tests/mochitest/editabletext/editabletext.js@159528: 09c2405e72d2 in manifests not found, accessible/tests/mochitest/editabletext/test_1.html@159528: a0827d4c95af in manifests not found'
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1184. # [11:03] <Gijs> dougc: I just pulled and it seems things are fine here...
1185. # [11:04] <dougc> gijs: ok thanks for checking. Not sure what's going wrong here, but shall dig deeper.
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1199. # [11:19] <heftig> does the unified build have any appreciable effect on release builds?
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1211. # [11:27] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: dougc yeah also confirmed all good here
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1244. # [12:08] <mikedeboer> I currently get an error while building on Win8: "*** Make version too old. Only versions strictly greater than 4.0 are supported.. Stop."
1245. # [12:09] <Optimize1> mikedeboer: yeah :|
1246. # [12:09] <mikedeboer> I'm using a mozmake.exe that was linked to a while back on dev-platform
1247. # [12:09] <Optimize1> they updated the min requirement of make version
1248. # [12:09] <Optimize1> without releasing a new mozbuild
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1250. # [12:09] <Optimize1> worry not, i have a solution
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1252. # [12:10] <mikedeboer> Optimize1: I love solutions! I eat 'em for breakfast, coincidentally.
1253. # [12:10] <ttaubert> mikedeboer: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/S_KXlDKTNQw
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1255. # [12:12] <Optimize1> mikedeboer: https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/birch/file/f418a2ae24bc/mozmake.exe
1256. # [12:12] <mikedeboer> ttaubert: ah, thanks mate. I didn't get to that post yet, still inbox-zero-ing
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1258. # [12:12] <mikedeboer> Optimize1: thanks!!!
1259. # [12:12] <Optimize1> replace this file with the one in your moz-build bin folder somewhere
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1266. # [12:16] <Optimize1> ttaubert: moz dev platform is not a good group to post into i think.
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1268. # [12:16] <Optimize1> (or am I mistaken ? )
1269. # [12:16] <mikedeboer> Optimize1: why not? It has the largest audience...
1270. # [12:16] <Optimize1> what is firefox-dev then ?
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1274. # [12:17] <ttaubert> Optimize1: pretty much for Firefox development. windows build bustage affects everyone building on windows
1275. # [12:18] <Optimize1> but see.
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1277. # [12:18] <Optimize1> if a person is not on the other one (like me)
1278. # [12:18] <Optimize1> I would not have got the mail
1279. # [12:19] <mikedeboer> Optimize1: that's a list directly related to firefox development. But dev-platform encompasses product and is about the entire platform; so posts there also impact mobile, FxOS, Labs, sometimes Foundation, etc.
1280. # [12:19] <Optimize1> I know
1281. # [12:19] <Optimize1> but there will be many people who only work with firefox
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1283. # [12:19] <Optimize1> and do not want the massive amount of mails that come in dev-platform
1284. # [12:19] <Optimize1> mostly contributors
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1286. # [12:20] <Optimize1> I am just saying that firefox-dev should also get notified :)
1287. # [12:20] <mikedeboer> yeah, but they should *also* subscribe to dev-platform, because the messages there also affect their workflows
1288. # [12:20] <Optimize1> not necesarily
1289. # [12:20] <Optimize1> I never got affected before
1290. # [12:20] <ttaubert> Optimize1: it could've been cross-posted maybe
1291. # [12:20] <ttaubert> but I think it's definitely the right mailing list
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1294. # [12:22] <mcsmurf> do I need to install some new make version now? I have trouble building with comm-central, but then, maybe some comm-central only issue..
1295. # [12:22] <mcsmurf> c:/mozilla/tree-hg/comm-central/mozilla/config/baseconfig.mk:23: *** Make version too old. Only versions strictly greater than 4.0 are supported.. Stop.
1296. # [12:22] <mcsmurf> I "installed" mozmake.exe a few weeks ago if that matters
1297. # [12:22] <padenot> mcsmurf: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/S_KXlDKTNQw
1298. # [12:22] <mcsmurf> oh, it says "greater"....
1299. # [12:23] <mcsmurf> mine is not greater I just notcied :)
1300. # [12:23] <mcsmurf> ah, .platform
1301. # [12:23] <mcsmurf> I looked in .builds
1302. # [12:23] <Optimize1> i am cross posting.
1303. # [12:24] <mcsmurf> k, thanks
1304. # [12:24] <Optimize1> as it is clear many people missed the post
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1307. # [12:28] <Optimize1> can any moderator approve my message ?
1308. # [12:28] <Optimize1> for firefox-dev
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1311. # [12:30] <mcsmurf> so firefox-dev is mailing list only these days (no newsgroup)?
1312. # [12:30] <mcsmurf> (I dont follow FF that closely..)
1313. # [12:30] <mcsmurf> +dev
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1326. # [12:45] <@smaug> no firebot
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1329. # [12:52] <mcsmurf> c:/mozilla/tree-hg/comm-central/mozilla/config/rules.mk:740: recipe for target 'plugin-hang-ui.exe' failed
1330. # [12:52] <mcsmurf> eh
1331. # [12:53] <mcsmurf> grmbl...
1332. # [12:53] <mjrosenb> great
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1336. # [12:54] <mjrosenb> [mjrosenb@odroid armhf-dbg]$ time ./shell/js --ion-eager /home/mjrosenb/src/central/central-805299/js/src/jit-test/tests/auto-regress/bug743094.js
1337. # [12:54] <mjrosenb> /home/mjrosenb/src/central/central-805299/js/src/jit-test/tests/auto-regress/bug743094.js:9:10 InternalError: too much recursion
1338. # [12:54] <mcsmurf> hm, buildbot looks fine
1339. # [12:54] <mjrosenb> real 5m7.099s
1340. # [12:54] <mjrosenb> user 5m6.405s
1341. # [12:54] <mjrosenb> sys 0m0.295s
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1343. # [12:54] * mjrosenb wonders if there is some way of modifing that test / the shell so it doesn't take as much time
1344. # [12:55] <Optimize1> can a firefox-dev group mod approve my message ?
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1348. # [12:57] <Gijs> Optimize1: I suspect you need gavin or dolske to approve stuff on fx-dev, and that neither is awake yet.
1349. # [12:58] <Gijs> but I just pinged them so hopefully they get to it when they are in fact awake. :)
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1358. # [13:06] <heftig> trying to build release 26: ../../../dist/include/mozilla/dom/TabChild.h:24:31: fatal error: nsIWindowProvider.h: No such file or directory
1359. # [13:06] <heftig> any idea? happens during the profile-use build
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1373. # [13:14] <@smaug> is mstange on vacation ?
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1387. # [13:22] <jwatt> smaug: he probably should be - as of a week ago I don't think he'd taken any this year
1388. # [13:23] <@smaug> hmm
1389. # [13:23] <@smaug> he forgot to land a fix to a major regression
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1443. # [14:18] <zzzzz> smaug he's currently in #gfx
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1445. # [14:21] <Ms2ger> Did something change about bmo's monospace font?
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1447. # [14:21] <RyanVM> yes, I was wondering the same thing
1448. # [14:23] <Rik> Ms2ger: RyanVM: fonts have been moved to b.m.o according to http://globau.wordpress.com/2013/12/10/happy-bmo-push-day-75/
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1450. # [14:23] <Rik> maybe that changed something by mistake
1451. # [14:24] * Ms2ger will poke glob|away later
1452. # [14:24] <RyanVM> glob|away? ^
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1497. # [15:12] <@smaug> mstange: thanks
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1514. # [15:23] <glandium> RyanVM: ping
1515. # [15:23] <RyanVM> glandium: pong
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1517. # [15:24] <glandium> RyanVM: remember my pgo failure yesterday? want to hear a good one?
1518. # [15:24] <RyanVM> glandium: sure
1519. # [15:24] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
1520. # [15:24] <glandium> RyanVM: if i take the patch that was backed out, and re-apply everything but the js/src bits, it works ; if i apply the js/src bits only... it works too
1521. # [15:25] <Ms2ger> Ah, glob
1522. # [15:25] <glandium> (if i didn't screw up my trys)
1523. # [15:25] <RyanVM> glandium: yuck
1524. # [15:25] <glandium> i'm going to try another pair, for good measure
1525. # [15:26] <glandium> RyanVM: and the best part is, the changes that were made only effectively revert a problem introduced by unified sources, that is that some files were explicitely not pgoed, and thanks to unified sources, that's ignored
1526. # [15:27] <glandium> conclusion: effectively reverting problems introduced by unified sources broke the tree
1527. # [15:28] <glandium> i should push with the patch and without unified sources, just to laugh at the result
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1530. # [15:28] <RyanVM> what a mess
1531. # [15:29] <curtisk> I am new to os x builds of firefox and when I do a ./mach build I get errors I don't understand https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3748913
1532. # [15:29] <curtisk> I'm using instructions from here https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Mac_OS_X_Prerequisites
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1534. # [15:30] <curtisk> one-line setup did not work so I followed the manual instructions
1535. # [15:30] <mstange> smaug: you're welcome, sorry for taking so long
1536. # [15:30] <glandium> RyanVM: and 3+ hours turnaround times for pgo builds don't help
1537. # [15:31] <RyanVM> very true
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1541. # [15:31] <Ms2ger> clang-mp-3.1: command not found
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1546. # [15:33] <gps> curtisk: please file a bug on the one line setup not working
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1549. # [15:33] <curtisk> gps: I would but I can't reproduce now
1550. # [15:33] <curtisk> gps: now it asks which package manager to use brew or macports
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1552. # [15:34] <glandium> unrelatedly, i think it's the first time i have free wired network access in a hotel
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1555. # [15:37] <curtisk> gps: I am letting it run using homebrew atm
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1559. # [15:39] <curtisk> gps: so oneline completed this time but I get the exact same error on ./mach build
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1561. # [15:40] <mcsmurf> so it cannot find the compiler it says
1562. # [15:40] <gps> boo
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1566. # [15:43] <mstange> curtisk: did you install clang with brew / macports or did you install XCode?
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1568. # [15:43] <mstange> curtisk: and did you specify clang-mp-3.1 yourself somewhere?
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1570. # [15:44] <curtisk> mstange: I already had xcode installed
1571. # [15:44] <curtisk> mstange: I think I did I followed the instructions for my .mozconfig
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1573. # [15:45] <mstange> curtisk: I think XCode doesn't come with a clang-mp-3.1 binary, and the wiki page says to use that if you installed clang via brew
1574. # [15:45] <curtisk> mstange: here is my .mozconfig https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3748982
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1576. # [15:45] <mstange> I see
1577. # [15:46] <mstange> curtisk: try removing the "-mp-3.1" in both places maybe?
1578. # [15:46] <curtisk> nope
1579. # [15:46] <mstange> curtisk: can you pastebin the new error?
1580. # [15:47] <curtisk> it's the same error
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1582. # [15:47] <mstange> curtisk: so it still says " 0:02.77 /Users/curtisk/mozilla-central/configure: line 3223: clang-mp-3.1: command not found"?
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1584. # [15:48] <curtisk> no, sorry, the bottom is the same, pasted
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1588. # [15:49] <curtisk> mstange: ^
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1591. # [15:49] <mstange> curtisk: where did you paste it?
1592. # [15:50] <curtisk> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3749005
1593. # [15:50] <mstange> thanks
1594. # [15:50] <curtisk> sorry
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1596. # [15:50] <mstange> okay, one sec
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1600. # [15:52] <mstange> curtisk: what's the output of "which clang" and of "clang --version"?
1601. # [15:53] <curtisk> which clang = /opt/local/bin/clang
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1603. # [15:53] -curtisk:#developers- clang version 3.2 (trunk 160101)
1604. # [15:53] -curtisk:#developers- Target: x86_64-apple-darwin13.0.0
1605. # [15:53] -curtisk:#developers- Thread model: posix
1606. # [15:53] <gps> curtisk: use the clang from /usr/local/bin
1607. # [15:53] <gps> /opt/local/bin/clang is MacPorts
1608. # [15:53] <gps> even the /usr/bin/clang is good enough for a modern Xcode
1609. # [15:53] <curtisk> how do I change that?
1610. # [15:54] <gps> edit the CC and CXX variables in your mozconfig file
1611. # [15:54] <mcsmurf> -curtisk:#developers- clang version 3.2 (trunk 160101)
1612. # [15:54] <mcsmurf> huh, what was that?
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1614. # [15:54] <gps> change them to /usr/local/bin/clang and /usr/local/bin/clang++
1615. # [15:54] <mcsmurf> some special IRC command?
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1617. # [15:55] <Ms2ger> /notice
1618. # [15:55] <mcsmurf> oh, heh
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1620. # [15:55] <curtisk> gps: so my cc var is "CC=clang" I should change it to "CC=/user/local/bin/clang" ?
1621. # [15:56] <mstange> usr, yes
1622. # [15:56] <mstange> if you have clang installed via MacPorts
1623. # [15:56] <mstange> (which I thought you hadn't)
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1625. # [15:56] <mstange> if you want to use the XCode clang, use /usr/bin/clang
1626. # [15:56] <gps> curtisk: yes, pin it to a specific path so $PATH doesn't interfere
1627. # [15:57] <curtisk> whats the diff between using macports and xcode versions?
1628. # [15:58] <curtisk> here is my .mozconfig now https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3749056
1629. # [15:58] <curtisk> and I am still getting errors https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3749058
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1634. # [15:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> baku: ping
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1636. # [16:00] <mstange> curtisk: yeah, that's what you'd get if you don't have the macports version, I don't know why gps suggested that
1637. # [16:00] <mstange> curtisk: try /usr/bin/clang
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1641. # [16:01] <curtisk> mstange: OK, error again https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3749059
1642. # [16:01] <curtisk> a later error at least
1643. # [16:01] <mstange> yay
1644. # [16:01] <mstange> we got further this time
1645. # [16:02] <curtisk> ccache not found
1646. # [16:02] <baku> Tomcat|sheriffduty, pong
1647. # [16:02] <curtisk> mstange: true, and thank you for your help
1648. # [16:02] <mstange> curtisk: you're welcome
1649. # [16:02] <mstange> curtisk: brew install ccache
1650. # [16:02] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey baku seems https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=31745605&tree=Mozilla-Inbound is from your push for bug 487070
1651. # [16:02] <Ms2ger> A question for y'all
1652. # [16:03] <Ms2ger> "Give a complete list of languages in P that are not P -complete."
1653. # [16:03] <curtisk> done and building again
1654. # [16:03] <baku> Tomcat|sheriffduty, oh... :/ too bad. I'll check it a bit more. sorry
1655. # [16:03] <curtisk> and fyi it gives me a flink warning when I do the brew stuff
1656. # [16:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np, do you want to fix ?
1657. # [16:03] <annevk> Ms2ger: we're not here to help you with your homework :P
1658. # [16:03] <gps> mstange: because Xcode's clang is sufficient if xcode is new enough. but if bootstrapper installed clang to macports or homebrew, then that means xcode's clang wasn't new enough. I missed this last detail in my recommendation
1659. # [16:03] <Ms2ger> annevk, yes you are!
1660. # [16:04] <mstange> gps: I see
1661. # [16:04] <Ms2ger> The sooner I get through this stuff, the sooner I can do Mozilla word :)
1662. # [16:04] <Ms2ger> work
1663. # [16:04] <curtisk> mstange: gps well it appears to be building this time, or at least we've gotten much further, thanks to both of you
1664. # [16:04] <mstange> curtisk: yay!
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1666. # [16:04] <mstange> curtisk: good luck
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1668. # [16:05] <curtisk> thanks, I am determined to figure this out, find a good first bug, write a patch and submit for review
1669. # [16:05] <mstange> curtisk: since you're using ccache now, you may also want to have a look at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/ccache
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1671. # [16:05] <curtisk> mstange: thanks
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1673. # [16:06] <curtisk> wow, my box sounds like a jet engine atm
1674. # [16:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hah
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1690. # [16:20] <curtisk> yeah, personal achievement…built firefox on OS X
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1692. # [16:21] <gcp> You are the 1%.
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1694. # [16:22] <curtisk> the 1% that try?
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1700. # [16:25] <jorendorff> Apparently the best way to find all three implementations of something in Gecko is to claim on dev.platform that we don't have any :)
1701. # [16:25] <froydnj> jorendorff++
1702. # [16:25] <jorendorff> bsmedberg: nsTHashtable is only, what, ten years old?
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1707. # [16:27] <Ms2ger> jorendorff, no, it doesn't exist
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1710. # [16:28] <Ms2ger> jorendorff, use std::whatever and have faith
1711. # [16:28] <jcranmer> jorendorff: nsBaseHashtable is an nsTHashtable
1712. # [16:28] <jcranmer> you'd know that, of course, if you'd ever read the XPCOM hashtable guide
1713. # [16:29] <jorendorff> i wonder if i claimed we've never had this discussion before, how many copies in the dev.platform archives would turn up
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1715. # [16:29] <jcranmer> I brought this up at least twice before
1716. # [16:30] <Ms2ger> Oooh, try it
1717. # [16:30] <jcranmer> the last time was only this year
1718. # [16:30] <jcranmer> maybe April or May?
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1721. # [16:30] <gcp> are we talking about the std:: thread?
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1723. # [16:31] <jorendorff> yup
1724. # [16:31] <jorendorff> i thought the hard part was std::'s use of exceptions
1725. # [16:31] <jorendorff> no?
1726. # [16:32] <jcranmer> that's okay if we want to abort on an exception
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1728. # [16:32] <jcranmer> which for most of the STL types is exactly what we want
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1734. # [16:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> baku: how goes?
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1736. # [16:37] <@bsmedberg> jorendorff: 2003, yes
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1738. # [16:37] <@bsmedberg> it was my first big C++ patch
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1742. # [16:40] <baku> RyanVM|sheriffduty, I was in a meeting I did nothing about that. If you want you can back it out and then I'll submit a new patch once it's fully green on try. how does it sound?
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1744. # [16:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> baku: sure
1745. # [16:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> baku: though it looks like the test just needs fixing?
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1747. # [16:42] <baku> RyanVM|sheriffduty, yep. or if it's not always orange.. I can work on the test in a follow up.
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1750. # [16:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> baku: do you want to look into it for a bit?
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1752. # [16:43] <baku> RyanVM|sheriffduty, sure. doing it now.
1753. # [16:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> baku: ok, let me know :)
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1771. # [16:53] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: are you opposed to adding iterator support to nsTArray/nsTHashtable and friends?
1772. # [16:53] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: mutation-safe iterators?
1773. # [16:53] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: probably not, but I'd want to understand the performance and memory tradeoffs
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1775. # [16:53] <@bsmedberg> mutation-unsafe iterators sound like a footgun
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1777. # [16:54] <jcranmer> I don't think STL iterators are mutation-safe for insertion/deletion
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1786. # [16:58] <jcranmer> my intent would be to make the xpcom datastructures more amenable to people used to STL
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1796. # [17:06] <glob> Optimizer, congratulations! you win the "first not-testing comment tag" prize!
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1798. # [17:06] <glob> unfortunately the prize is that comment
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1800. # [17:07] <Optimizer> can my prize me that the tag is public ?
1801. # [17:07] <Optimizer> I just realized on my second tag that the tags are private
1802. # [17:07] <Ms2ger> glob, did I already ask about the monospace font on bmo?
1803. # [17:08] <glob> Optimizer, tags aren't private, but you have to be logged in to see them
1804. # [17:08] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: would you be happy with iterators that MOZ_ASSERT'd if they're invalidated?
1805. # [17:08] <Optimizer> ohh
1806. # [17:08] <glob> Ms2ger, yes, and dkl answered on #ateam, right?
1807. # [17:08] <Optimizer> do they spawn emails ?
1808. # [17:08] <Ms2ger> So he did
1809. # [17:08] <glob> Optimizer, no
1810. # [17:08] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: I don't know, I'd want froydnj and ehsan to weigh in on the design.
1811. # [17:09] <@ehsan> ?
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1813. # [17:09] <Ms2ger> glob, it just seems like a different font, and I don't think I have a screenshot of what it used to look like :)
1814. # [17:09] <Optimizer> so you mean you can see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=948456#c2 tag ?
1815. # [17:09] <Ms2ger> Anyway, off for a bit
1816. # [17:09] <glob> Optimizer, "agreed"
1817. # [17:09] <Ms2ger> What glob said
1818. # [17:09] <Optimizer> okay cool :)
1819. # [17:09] <Optimizer> thank god I did not do any stupid tag ;)
1820. # [17:10] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: I'll file a bug later today
1821. # [17:10] <glob> Ms2ger, weird though; when you're back i'm happy to explore what happened with you (if you have the time)
1822. # [17:10] <Ms2ger> glob, sure, thanks
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1830. # [17:12] <Rik> glob: re comment tags, that means we can probably get markdown comments in bugzillajs without any risk of pollution!
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1832. # [17:13] <glob> Rik, i'm working on native markdown support
1833. # [17:13] <Optimizer> markdown comments ?
1834. # [17:13] <glob> Rik, i think if bugzillajs had markdown support it would cause problems down the road
1835. # [17:14] <glob> Optimizer, yes. i have a functional POC
1836. # [17:14] <Optimizer> i meant : what does that mean ?
1837. # [17:14] <Rik> glob: oh nice
1838. # [17:14] <glob> Optimizer, google markdown ;)
1839. # [17:14] <Optimizer> i know what is that
1840. # [17:14] <Rik> I now need to find the courage to close the pull request I've had for months in bugzillajs
1841. # [17:14] <Optimizer> but the combination of those two words doesn't rign a bell to me
1842. # [17:14] <Optimizer> ring*
1843. # [17:15] <glob> Optimizer, add markdown support to comments, so they can optionally be displayed with formatting, etc
1844. # [17:15] <Optimizer> ah..
1845. # [17:15] <Optimizer> github style
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1848. # [17:16] <Optimizer> when will we start providng web ui to merge and commit patches ? ;)
1849. # [17:16] <glob> Optimizer, yes, although with a more limited set of markdown (we don't want to allow images for example)
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1852. # [17:16] <mbrubeck> aww
1853. # [17:16] <Optimizer> I can already imagine what images will do to bugzilla
1854. # [17:16] <Optimizer> such bugz
1855. # [17:16] <Optimizer> very markdown
1856. # [17:17] <glob> Optimizer, i'm not sure what's going on with autolander. iirc the bugzilla side of things was completed ages ago
1857. # [17:17] <mbrubeck> so meme
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1860. # [17:17] <Rik> glob: do you have a bug number for markdown support?
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1863. # [17:18] <glob> Rik, 330707
1864. # [17:19] <bz> mmm
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1866. # [17:19] <bz> So as far as comment markdown
1867. # [17:19] <bz> The github version pisses me off every time
1868. # [17:19] <bz> Because it fails the "type in your HTML testcase and have it not get munged" test
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1870. # [17:20] <bz> So whatever we do, can we pass that test by default, please? ;)
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1872. # [17:20] <glob> bz, we won't be allowing raw html at all
1873. # [17:20] <bz> Super
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1877. # [17:22] <Optimizer> such xss
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1888. # [17:26] <Fallen> where did the xpcshell test logs go for succeeded tests?
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1905. # [17:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> baku: any luck? :)
1906. # [17:32] <baku> RyanVM|sheriffduty, almost there :)
1907. # [17:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yay :)
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1927. # [17:41] <Optimizer> where are the telemetry results viewable on net ?
1928. # [17:41] <Optimizer> i mean online
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1936. # [17:42] <Optimizer> found it.
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1940. # [17:44] <Optimizer> what, telemetary dashboard is not open ?
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1944. # [17:44] <Optimizer> oh, telemetary-dash is not open.
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1946. # [17:45] <jorendorff> Does anyone have a shell script they use for grabbing a web page (one that crashes Firefox for example), just in case it changes? Bonus points for also zipping it up and attaching it to a bug
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1959. # [17:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jorendorff: I wish. I could use it for an unrelated purpose.
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2013. # [18:12] <tbsaunde> what happened to firebot?
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2017. # [18:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> found a better job at Twitter
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2057. # [18:36] <fabrice> mayhemer: are you still looking at bug 918880 ?
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2059. # [18:36] <bholley> jgriffin: ping
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2061. # [18:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bholley: pto today
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2063. # [18:38] <bholley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: who knows about Marionette?
2064. # [18:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bholley: mdas is around
2065. # [18:38] <bholley> mdas: ping
2066. # [18:38] <mdas> bholley: pong
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2069. # [18:39] <bholley> mdas: so, I've got this patch to vastly simplify and speed up event dispatch. And it's green everywhere, except for one little failure on Mnw
2070. # [18:39] <bholley> mdas: this is the error: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=31750786&tree=Try#error0
2071. # [18:39] <bholley> mdas: which corresponds to this: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/telephony/test/marionette/test_incoming_answer_hangup_oncallschanged.js#47
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2073. # [18:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bholley: link to the try run?
2074. # [18:39] <bholley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=6d0147b37f6a
2075. # [18:40] <bholley> mdas: the failure is curious, because I would imagine that the subsequent |is| call should print something, even if it were a failure
2076. # [18:40] <bholley> mdas: but we appear to just hang and time out
2077. # [18:40] <bholley> mdas: so my initial questions are: (1) Should I expect the |is| on line 48 to print something, and (2) if we were to throw, would that show up somewhere?
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2079. # [18:41] <bholley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: (if you have some reason why that failure is bogus, I'm all ears ;-) )
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2081. # [18:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bholley: I wanted to, but 2x in a row is disheartening
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2083. # [18:41] <mdas> bholley: lemme take a look
2084. # [18:41] <bholley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah. And it's not on the baserev :-(
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2086. # [18:41] <bholley> mdas: thanks :-)
2087. # [18:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Mnw is prone to timeouts, but not that reproducibly
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2092. # [18:43] <jgriffin> bholley: pong
2093. # [18:43] <bholley> jgriffin: mdas is helping me out - thanks :-)
2094. # [18:44] <jgriffin> great, thanks mdas
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2104. # [18:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bholley: sorry, I suck at reading
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2106. # [18:49] <bholley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: oh?
2107. # [18:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bholley: the notice wasn't for today :P
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2109. # [18:49] <bholley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: notice?
2110. # [18:49] <bholley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: oh, pto
2111. # [18:49] <mdas> bholley: doesn't look like there was any error in the logcat, it appears to me that the test is just taking longer than the 60s timeout...
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2113. # [18:50] <bholley> mdas: so it's just getting cut off right there?
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2115. # [18:50] <mdas> bholley: looks like it. Here's the snippet from the logcat https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3749825
2116. # [18:50] <bholley> mdas: oh! The logcat has other stuff in it!
2117. # [18:51] <mdas> bholley: line 5 is the last check it does, then it just returns, claiming the test took too long (line 7)
2118. # [18:51] <mdas> yeah the logcat has marionette output, so we can see what it's doing
2119. # [18:52] <bholley> mdas: that's useful to know :-)
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2121. # [18:52] <bholley> mdas: hm. So the onconnecting handler competes. But then nothing more happens?
2122. # [18:53] <bholley> mdas: do I read the logcat correctly that the timeout happens within 1s of the execution of onconnecting?
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2124. # [18:53] <bholley> mdas: or no, maybe not
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2127. # [18:55] <mdas> 12:04:16.408 then 12:05:15.908 so, 1 minute?
2128. # [18:55] <mdas> I think? let me verify. It's strange that there are two datetime strings
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2136. # [18:56] <bholley> mdas: Is there a way to get access to the logcat from TBPL?
2137. # [18:56] <mdas> bholley: it's in the full log https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=31750786&full=1&branch=try
2138. # [18:57] <mdas> bholley: look for 'dumping logcat'
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2140. # [18:57] <bholley> mdas: ah! I see
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2142. # [18:57] <mdas> bholley: oh and yeah, it's 1 minute. the first datetime string is unhelpful.
2143. # [18:57] <mdas> so I'm assuming it doesn't go to the next state in the test
2144. # [18:57] <bholley> mdas: ok. Then that presumably means that an event isn't firing somewhere. That's helpful
2145. # [18:57] <mdas> so it times out
2146. # [18:57] <mdas> yup
2147. # [18:57] <mdas> :)
2148. # [18:57] <bholley> mdas: ok, I can probably make more progress here with the logcat
2149. # [18:58] <bholley> mdas: is there an easy way to debug this? Or not really?
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2151. # [18:58] <mdas> bholley: to debug the test you're running?
2152. # [18:58] * armenzg_lunch is now known as armenzg
2153. # [18:59] <mdas> not that I know of other than lots of logging
2154. # [18:59] <bholley> mdas: Yes. to somehow debug test_incoming_answer_hangup_oncallschanged.js in my macbook
2155. # [18:59] <bholley> mdas: sigh. Ok
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2157. # [18:59] <bholley> mdas: thanks for the help :-)
2158. # [18:59] <jwalker> gps: does your travel make it hard/impossible to give some makefile advice?
2159. # [18:59] <mdas> bholley: np
2160. # [19:00] <hub> is Firefox/Untriaged really the best component to get things trying?
2161. # [19:00] <Ms2ger> Probably
2162. # [19:00] <Ms2ger> jwalker, what's the question?
2163. # [19:00] <hub> s/trying/triaged/
2164. # [19:01] <Ms2ger> hub, that's what it's for :)
2165. # [19:01] <bz> bholley: you saw the pointer to running those tests locally?
2166. # [19:01] <bholley> bz: this is b2g marionette, not gaia-ui
2167. # [19:01] <bholley> bz: a different b2g failure
2168. # [19:01] <jwalker> Ms2ger: I have a patch which changes a Makefile, but in ways that I suspect might be not-optimal
2169. # [19:02] <jwalker> Ms2ger: can I CC you on the bug and put comments there?
2170. # [19:02] <Ms2ger> Sure
2171. # [19:02] <bholley> bz: for the cx pushing stuff
2172. # [19:02] <Waldo> whither firebot?
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2174. # [19:02] <Ms2ger> PTO
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2176. # [19:03] <Ms2ger> Its grandmother is ill
2177. # [19:03] <Waldo> Ms2ger: you troll, you
2178. # [19:03] * Waldo is without sin and therefore casts the first stone
2179. # [19:03] <bz> bholley: oh, sorry
2180. # [19:03] <bz> bholley: so many busted test suites. :(
2181. # [19:04] <bholley> bz: yeah :-(
2182. # [19:05] <bkelly> is there a standard way to map an xpcom object to an ID in javascript? for example, if I wanted to use it as a property name in a javascript object
2183. # [19:05] <Waldo> bkelly: use a WeakMap or a Map
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2187. # [19:05] <bkelly> Waldo, those allow objects as keys?
2188. # [19:06] <Waldo> bkelly: not as property names, but you can insert object->* mappings into them
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2191. # [19:06] <Waldo> bkelly: property names are strings, full stop
2192. # [19:06] <bkelly> Waldo, thanks, that makes sense
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2196. # [19:07] <bz> didn't we have JSAPI for getting an "object id"? ;)
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2199. # [19:08] <@khuey> (void*)obj? ;-)
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2201. # [19:08] <froydnj> khuey trolls harder than bz
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2204. # [19:08] <bholley> mdas: does the logcat include warnings printed to stderr?
2205. # [19:08] <bz> khuey: that's what it did under the hood, yes
2206. # [19:09] <bz> khuey: iirc
2207. # [19:09] <bkelly> actually... the code here is trying to use an array with indexof, but is erroneously doing dict[obj] instead of dict.indexOf[obj]
2208. # [19:09] <bkelly> I think I can just fix that
2209. # [19:09] <bz> oh, look, we still have the API!
2210. # [19:09] <bz> But now it claims to play nice with moving GC
2211. # [19:09] <mdas> bholley: It should
2212. # [19:09] <mdas> bkelly: nice
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2214. # [19:09] <mdas> oops
2215. # [19:09] <bholley> hm
2216. # [19:09] <mdas> bholley: nice
2217. # [19:09] <mdas> heh
2218. # [19:10] <bz> uh
2219. # [19:10] <bz> uh...
2220. # [19:10] <bz> except that's a lie?
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2222. # [19:10] <bz> Anyway, JS_GetObjectId
2223. # [19:10] <@khuey> how on earth could a raw ptr cast play nice with a moving GC?
2224. # [19:10] <bz> See "lie"?
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2226. # [19:10] * terrence 's ears perk up
2227. # [19:11] <bz> 2533 * Get a unique identifier for obj, good for the lifetime of obj (even if it
2228. # [19:11] <Waldo> bz: you troll, you
2229. # [19:11] <bz> 2534 * is moved by a copying GC). Return false on failure (likely out of memory),
2230. # [19:11] <bz> 2535 * and true with *idp containing the unique id on success.
2231. # [19:11] <bz> Is what the API comment in jsapi.h says
2232. # [19:11] <Waldo> :-)
2233. # [19:11] <Waldo> terrence: perk down, we're discussing API sins of the past
2234. # [19:11] <bz> But the impl does:
2235. # [19:11] <bz> 2430 *idp = OBJECT_TO_JSID(obj);
2236. # [19:11] <bz> And we have:
2237. # [19:11] <bz> 118 OBJECT_TO_JSID(JSObject *obj)
2238. # [19:11] <bz> 119 {
2239. # [19:11] <bz> 120 jsid id;
2240. # [19:11] <bz> 121 JS_ASSERT(obj != nullptr);
2241. # [19:11] <bz> 122 JS_ASSERT(((size_t)obj & JSID_TYPE_MASK) == 0);
2242. # [19:11] <bz> 123 JSID_BITS(id) = ((size_t)obj | JSID_TYPE_OBJECT);
2243. # [19:11] <bz> 124 return id;
2244. # [19:11] <Waldo> we really need to push on JS::PropertyKey to make everything correct/safe here
2245. # [19:11] <bz> So unless the GC knows to adjust object jsids....
2246. # [19:11] <Waldo> and get rid of jsid entirely
2247. # [19:11] <bz> (which maybe it does)
2248. # [19:12] <Waldo> there are no uses of object jsids any more
2249. # [19:12] <Waldo> that three-letter four-letter word the NSA loved has been destroyed, delenda est
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2251. # [19:12] <@khuey> wasn't it two letters and a number?
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2253. # [19:13] <bz> waldo: does PropertyKey let me know sanely when I have an index?
2254. # [19:13] <Waldo> for a generous definition of letter
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2256. # [19:13] <Waldo> bz: yes, it would
2257. # [19:13] <bz> waldo: ++. Can I haz, plz?
2258. # [19:13] <bz> Starting with the proxy API!
2259. # [19:13] <Waldo> bz: js/public/PropertyKey.h sketches out the API
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2262. # [19:14] <Waldo> bz: it's really just a matter of time to push on it
2263. # [19:14] <bz> mmm
2264. # [19:14] * bz wants so many things from jsapi....
2265. # [19:14] <Waldo> don't we all
2266. # [19:14] <bz> Like a sane way to do for..of style iteration
2267. # [19:15] * bz should just write it
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2273. # [19:19] <Waldo> bz: we have one internally that could perhaps be publicized, I think, courtesy of wingo
2274. # [19:19] <Waldo> js::ForOfIterator, IIRC
2275. # [19:19] <bz> waldo: doesn't do what I want
2276. # [19:19] <Waldo> bz: which is?
2277. # [19:19] <bz> waldo: I want to check whether I have an iterable
2278. # [19:19] <bz> waldo: and then if it is iterate
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2280. # [19:20] <bz> waldo: let me get you a link
2281. # [19:20] <Waldo> hum
2282. # [19:20] <Waldo> I didn't even know that was an idiom the spec supported, to some extent
2283. # [19:20] <Waldo> maybe
2284. # [19:20] <froydnj> why does JS_DefineProperty(..., name, JS::NullValue(), ...) not actually install anything for |name|?
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2286. # [19:20] <bz> waldo: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-script-coord/2013OctDec/0370.html
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2288. # [19:20] <bz> waldo: it's done in some other cases
2289. # [19:21] * Waldo 's mind is mush from sitting in the app days presentations right now but not paying attention (only incidentally in the area), and too much voice-noise has destroyed his ability to think/concentrate
2290. # [19:21] <bz> waldo: you could read the whole thread at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-script-coord/2013OctDec/0321.html if you really care
2291. # [19:21] <bz> waldo: but the basic concern is how something like "sequence<long> or long" should behave
2292. # [19:21] <bz> waldo: as a function argument
2293. # [19:21] <bz> waldo: If we want "sequence" to mean "iterable"
2294. # [19:22] <bz> waldo: so basically, I need to slighty decouple the parts of ForOfIterator
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2296. # [19:22] <bz> waldo: into "get the iterator and see if it's callable" and "the rest of it"
2297. # [19:23] <Waldo> hm
2298. # [19:24] <Waldo> duck-typing on length and indexes is definitely dumb
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2301. # [19:24] <bz> Waldo: duck-typing on @@iterator is not necessarily better
2302. # [19:25] <bz> waldo: esp because I bet it's way slower. :(
2303. # [19:25] <Waldo> bz: oh, it's definitely better
2304. # [19:25] <annevk> bz: we should strongly push against APIs that do sequence<long> or long
2305. # [19:25] <Waldo> bz: not necessarily good, tho :-)
2306. # [19:25] <Waldo> not that I'm saying it's bad
2307. # [19:25] <annevk> bz: they should use long...
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2309. # [19:25] <froydnj> Waldo: better, but not good, but not bad?
2310. # [19:26] <Waldo> froydnj: I don't know if it's good or bad, I'm merely observing its being better than an alternative
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2312. # [19:26] <fabrice> are we still using the startupcache in any product?
2313. # [19:26] <@khuey> don't we use it on desktop?
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2315. # [19:27] <fabrice> khuey: I wonder, because when I enabled it on b2g desktop, I hit a failure in ospath_unix.jsm
2316. # [19:27] <fabrice> easy fix, but I don't understand how this could not fail for fx desktop
2317. # [19:27] <bz> annevk: talk to sicking
2318. # [19:27] <bz> annevk: he's the one adding them
2319. # [19:27] <mwu> fabrice: yeah, but it's also integrated so you don't see much on desktop
2320. # [19:27] <bz> annevk: and the indexeddb people
2321. # [19:27] <annevk> :/
2322. # [19:27] <@khuey> fabrice: *shrug*
2323. # [19:27] <fabrice> mwu: integrated?
2324. # [19:27] <@khuey> fabrice: ask bsmedberg?
2325. # [19:27] <fabrice> khuey: ok
2326. # [19:28] <bz> annevk: actually, what they're adding is something like "void foo((DOMstring or long or sequence<(DOMString or long)>) arg);
2327. # [19:28] * fabrice just wonders if this could be worthwhile for b2g
2328. # [19:28] <bz> (s/DOMstring/DOMString/)
2329. # [19:28] <@bsmedberg> we use startupcache on desktop and android
2330. # [19:28] <annevk> bz: for DataStore? Discussed a better API for that with baku earlier today
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2332. # [19:28] <bz> annevk: Good, good.
2333. # [19:28] <@bsmedberg> We don't use it on B2G?
2334. # [19:28] <mwu> fabrice: we integrate the startup cache into the omnijar
2335. # [19:28] <bz> annevk: I agree that "long or sequence<long>" is a misfeature, btw
2336. # [19:28] <bz> annevk: but I should note that "long..." is not usable if you need the argument not in tail position
2337. # [19:29] <bz> annevk: or more than one such argument, even worse!
2338. # [19:29] <mwu> at least for files that are part of the omnijar and don't generally change
2339. # [19:29] <annevk> bz: in that case you should prolly require a sequence
2340. # [19:29] <bz> (we can in fact make non-tail position work for long....)
2341. # [19:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> fabrice: didn't we disable TestStartupCache on b2g a long time ago when we started running checktests on the desktop builds?
2342. # [19:29] * sheppy-afk is now known as sheppy
2343. # [19:29] <mwu> so that includes many javascript things
2344. # [19:29] <bz> At least make it work in webidl
2345. # [19:29] <bz> dunno about pure JS
2346. # [19:29] <fabrice> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yes
2347. # [19:29] <annevk> bz: I wonder if it's too late to forbid sequence when you use "or"
2348. # [19:29] <bz> annevk: uh
2349. # [19:30] <bz> annevk: If you want to describe existing APIs, yes
2350. # [19:30] <bz> annevk: way late
2351. # [19:30] <bz> annevk: many years
2352. # [19:30] <annevk> hmm
2353. # [19:30] <Ms2ger> Eh, those can just use typescript
2354. # [19:30] <bz> annevk: I mean, assuming you want to convert overloads to unions
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2356. # [19:30] <bz> annevk: e.g. webgl overloads typed arrays and sequences
2357. # [19:30] <annevk> yeah I guess
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2359. # [19:30] <sicking> bz, annevk: btw, TC39 added Array.isArray and @@iterator to support just that type of APIs
2360. # [19:30] <annevk> maybe we could require it to be named legacyunionsequence in such cases :)
2361. # [19:31] <Ms2ger> Oh, are we against overloads now?
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2363. # [19:31] <bz> I would be fine with naming it whatever pumpkinsequence name we want
2364. # [19:31] <bz> As long as we don't drink Allen's kool-aid and spell it "any"
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2367. # [19:32] <sicking> bz, annevk: But if we want to outlaw it, i'd recommend getting input from TC39
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2369. # [19:32] <bz> note that right now we do not support sequences in unions
2370. # [19:32] <bz> so any API like that is done via overloads in our idl right now
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2372. # [19:33] <annevk> Ms2ger: uhuh
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2374. # [19:33] <sicking> bz, annevk: dherman was making a similar argument that such APIs are bad design recently in the context of promises. The argument there was that APIs that take |Promise<T> or T| is bad design
2375. # [19:33] <Ms2ger> I must be a hipster then... I wanted to get rid of it when we first added unions
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2378. # [19:34] <sicking> bz: it's unclear to me what practical implications using overloads rather than unions has?
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2380. # [19:34] <jfkthame> i thought we had a --disable-unified-compilation option ... but mach doesn't seem to like me using it
2381. # [19:34] <sicking> bz: other than that it makes it harder for us to remove support for overloads
2382. # [19:34] <jfkthame> anyone know how it's supposed to work?
2383. # [19:34] <annevk> sicking: I guess with @@iterator you can do some kind of reliable check on the object
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2387. # [19:34] <sicking> annevk: my understanding is that that's why its called @@iterator rather than iterator
2388. # [19:34] <annevk> sicking: still seems rather sad to have T or sequence<T> when we have T...
2389. # [19:35] <sicking> annevk: you mean [T]?
2390. # [19:35] <annevk> sicking: no
2391. # [19:35] <sicking> annevk: then i don't follow
2392. # [19:36] <Ms2ger> sicking, variadic functions
2393. # [19:36] <annevk> (T or sequence<T>) can just be T... in most cases
2394. # [19:36] <annevk> and then you'd use ...t to pass it in
2395. # [19:36] <sicking> not if you also have other arguments
2396. # [19:36] <sicking> see Blob ctor for example
2397. # [19:36] <sicking> that's a prime example where T or sequence<T> would make sense
2398. # [19:37] <bz> sicking: practical for our impl?
2399. # [19:37] <sicking> right now I bet 95% of all uses of the ctor does new Blob([val])
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2401. # [19:37] <bz> sicking: or practical for specs?
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2403. # [19:37] <sicking> bz: our impl
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2405. # [19:37] <bz> sicking: overloads are faster
2406. # [19:37] <bz> sicking: slightly
2407. # [19:38] <bz> sicking: we support overloading on types that we don't support in unions yet
2408. # [19:38] <bz> sicking: because ownership issues are hard
2409. # [19:38] <annevk> got to go
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2411. # [19:38] <bz> sicking: Overloads typically give the C++ implementor a slightly nicer API to work with
2412. # [19:38] <bz> sicking: I think those are the main differences
2413. # [19:38] <bz> Oh, also
2414. # [19:39] <bz> overloads lead to less include hell
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2416. # [19:39] <sicking> bz: ok. So when you say "note that right now we do not support sequences in unions so any API like that is done via overloads in our idl right now", I'm not sure what to take away from that.
2417. # [19:39] <bz> and may lead to less code. It' shard to tell.
2418. # [19:39] <bz> sicking: I mean that we don't support sequences in unions
2419. # [19:39] <bz> sicking: if you try, the codegen will throw
2420. # [19:39] <bz> Bug 767924 in case you care.
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2423. # [19:40] <sicking> this does not seem like a problem other than that we can't copy/paste the spec as much
2424. # [19:40] <Ms2ger> jwalker, ugh :)
2425. # [19:40] <sicking> which is something i can live with
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2428. # [19:40] <bz> For the most part, yes
2429. # [19:40] <sicking> bz: i guess the main downside would be if there are multiple unions in the same function as you get combinatorial explosions
2430. # [19:40] <jwalker> Ms2ger: hence the question :)
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2432. # [19:40] <bz> sure
2433. # [19:41] <bz> well, actually...
2434. # [19:41] <bz> depending, that might not be representable via overloads
2435. # [19:41] <sicking> if the performance differences actually come to matter, we might actually even want to compile unions into overloads (so that we can copy/paste the spec)
2436. # [19:42] <bz> overloads require that all overloads for a given argc have a common distinguishing index
2437. # [19:42] <sicking> ah
2438. # [19:42] <bz> so this: void foo((DOMString or long) arg1, (DOMString or long) arg2);
2439. # [19:42] <bz> I think cannot be expressed as overloads
2440. # [19:43] <bz> But in practice, this has not come up yet
2441. # [19:43] <bz> turns out most people know to not overload/union sequences... ;)
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2445. # [19:44] <billm> seth: ping
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2448. # [19:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: you're my hero
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2455. # [19:46] <bz> So back on topic
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2457. # [19:46] <bz> waldo: how hard would it be to refactor forofiterator to let me do what I want to do?
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2460. # [19:47] <@smaug> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I'm just trying to land my patch ;)
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2463. # [19:48] <@smaug> which happens to make many random orange perma orange
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2465. # [19:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: hah
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2470. # [19:49] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: if you're around, i could use your help looking into a mar verification error (CERT_VERIFY_ERROR) affecting 27.0b1
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2479. # [19:53] <bbondy> bhearsum|buildduty: I'm here, can you give me the details on it?
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2481. # [19:54] <bbondy> is it on m-c? or a diff channel?
2482. # [19:54] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: updater.exe from previous betas (19 through 26) is throwing that when trying to apply 27.0b1's complete MAR
2483. # [19:54] <bhearsum|buildduty> beta :)
2484. # [19:54] <bhearsum|buildduty> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3750089
2485. # [19:55] <bhearsum|buildduty> it doesn't look like any certificate stuff has changed, and i've verified that the 27.0b1 complete MARs were signed with https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/file/8334da282e42/toolkit/mozapps/update/updater/release_primary.der
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2488. # [19:55] <jcranmer> wow, filing a bug in Core: XPCOM sure spams a lot of people
2489. # [19:56] <bbondy> ok so CERT_VERIFY_ERROR is MAR related and not exe / authenticode related
2490. # [19:56] <bbondy> so that sounds bad
2491. # [19:56] <bhearsum|buildduty> yeah
2492. # [19:57] <bbondy> bhearsum|buildduty: only on beta right?
2493. # [19:57] <catlee-mtg> jst: would you be able to find someone to help with https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=943092 ?
2494. # [19:57] <bhearsum|buildduty> yeah, but we haven't shipped this beta yet
2495. # [19:57] <bhearsum|buildduty> these are our pre-ship update verify tests that are failing
2496. # [19:57] <bbondy> anything change on the signing servers?
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2499. # [19:57] <bhearsum|buildduty> not AFAICT, but i'm still poking around
2500. # [19:57] <bhearsum|buildduty> i verified the 27.0b1 mar against the exact cert we signed with
2501. # [19:58] <bbondy> anything different with the pre-ship update verify tests from a normal update? Have you tried a normal manual maybe?
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2503. # [19:58] <Cork> anyone know how one gets access to the browser toolbox? (it should be in web developer tools but it isn't listed)
2504. # [19:58] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: we invoke updater.exe directly, we don't go through UI
2505. # [19:59] <bbondy> could it be possible it's using the wrong updater.exe?
2506. # [19:59] <bhearsum|buildduty> remotely...but unlikely. the test unpacks the old version and runs updater.exe out of that
2507. # [19:59] <bz> Who owns file handling stuff on Windows?
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2509. # [20:00] <bbondy> bhearsum|buildduty: can you get me the updater.exe that was used that failed to apply the mar?
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2511. # [20:00] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: yep, one sec
2512. # [20:00] <bbondy> thanks
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2514. # [20:00] <philor> bz: same as any other platform, ""
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2522. # [20:04] <bz> philor: mmmm
2523. # [20:06] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: here's the whole appdir: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/experimental/busted-update-dir/bin/
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2525. # [20:07] <bbondy> checking it out
2526. # [20:07] <bhearsum|buildduty> do you need the mar it's trying to appyl, too?
2527. # [20:08] <bbondy> wouldn't hurt, sure
2528. # [20:08] <bbondy> depends on what I find here, but if you don't mind might as well
2529. # [20:08] <bbondy> ---
2530. # [20:08] <bhearsum|buildduty> http://stage.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/27.0b1-candidates/build1/update/win32/en-US/firefox-27.0b1.complete.mar
2531. # [20:08] <bbondy> so just to confirm what you sent me is what was used to apply the update, and not what's in the mar that can't be applied?
2532. # [20:08] <bhearsum|buildduty> that's correct
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2534. # [20:08] <bhearsum|buildduty> that's an unpacked 14.0b9
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2536. # [20:09] <bhearsum|buildduty> we're seeing the same issue for 14.0 -> 26.0 betas though
2537. # [20:09] <bhearsum|buildduty> that's just what happened to be on disk
2538. # [20:09] <@smaug> does skip-if = stuff in .ini files go after the file?
2539. # [20:09] <@smaug> or something similar super odd ?
2540. # [20:09] <bbondy> 14-> 26 is failing?
2541. # [20:09] <bbondy> but that used to work?
2542. # [20:10] <Ms2ger> smaug, yep, weirdly after
2543. # [20:10] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: -> 27
2544. # [20:10] <bbondy> k
2545. # [20:10] <bhearsum|buildduty> 14 -> 26 worked when we did 26.0b10 though, fwiw
2546. # [20:10] <bhearsum|buildduty> so be more verbose, {14..26} -> 27 is failing
2547. # [20:10] <@smaug> Ms2ger: ah, thanks. no wonder I don't see this one test locally....
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2549. # [20:11] <@smaug> Ms2ger: really odd syntax
2550. # [20:11] <Ms2ger> Yep
2551. # [20:11] <@smaug> I'd say some python-ism
2552. # [20:11] <Ms2ger> Not at all, then I'd like it :)
2553. # [20:11] <Ms2ger> It's .ini
2554. # [20:11] <bhearsum|buildduty> inside of a single section, order doesn't matter in an ini file AFAIK...
2555. # [20:12] <Ms2ger> bhearsum|buildduty, tests are sections
2556. # [20:12] <Waldo> bz: given the different purposes, I'm not sure we'd want to overload that...I think
2557. # [20:12] <bbondy> bhearsum|buildduty: so it's a good sign at least that not only 26.0b10 -> 27 is failing, it goes back to 14 too. So problem is likely with the mar itself or someting like that. Looking into files and data now.
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2561. # [20:12] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: yeah
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2564. # [20:13] * bhearsum|buildduty looks at signing server logs more
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2566. # [20:14] * bbondy did a clobber today and was looking at my mozconfig first, and luckily decided to have signmar enabled for this build :)
2567. # [20:14] <bhearsum|buildduty> :)
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2569. # [20:15] <bhearsum|buildduty> signing server logs normal
2570. # [20:15] * bhearsum|buildduty starts diffing 26.0b10 vs. 27.0b1 code
2571. # [20:15] <bhearsum|buildduty> it affects all locales, so i really suspect an in-repo issue of some sort...
2572. # [20:16] <bhearsum|buildduty> maybe the mozconfigs are badly different...
2573. # [20:16] <catlee> just windows?
2574. # [20:16] * mcote|lunch is now known as mcote
2575. # [20:17] <bbondy> we only check signatures in windows at the moment, we have patches done for other platforms just not landed yet
2576. # [20:17] <bhearsum|buildduty> yeah
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2578. # [20:17] <bbondy> looks like the mar itself is signed with the correct channel id, not sure which cert yet
2579. # [20:19] <bbondy> bhearsum|buildduty: no chance that the machine running the tests has that registry fallback key defined does it?
2580. # [20:19] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: i can check
2581. # [20:19] <bbondy> k I just exported the cert from updater.exe, diffing that to each cert now
2582. # [20:19] <bhearsum|buildduty> i hope you're not telling me that that would affect packaging though :)
2583. # [20:20] <bbondy> no just the verification
2584. # [20:20] <bbondy> i.e. would fix the test failure, and there'd be no issue with the mar
2585. # [20:20] <bhearsum|buildduty> oh, you want to know about the machine that the test failed on, not the build machine
2586. # [20:20] <bhearsum|buildduty> got it
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2588. # [20:21] <bbondy> yep
2589. # [20:21] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: it's got the Thawte and self signed keys on it
2590. # [20:22] <bhearsum|buildduty> err
2591. # [20:22] <bhearsum|buildduty> fingerprints
2592. # [20:22] <bhearsum|buildduty> whatever we call them
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2594. # [20:22] <bbondy> does this exist in HKLM? "SOFTWARE\Mozilla\MaintenanceService\3932ecacee736d366d6436db0f55bce4"
2595. # [20:22] <bhearsum|buildduty> yep
2596. # [20:22] <bbondy> that's the issue
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2598. # [20:23] <bhearsum|buildduty> even though we don't use the maintenance service in the tests?
2599. # [20:23] <bbondy> it'll try to use the xpcshell cert to do verifications
2600. # [20:23] <bbondy> yep
2601. # [20:23] <bhearsum|buildduty> okay
2602. # [20:23] <bbondy> that key is used both for the maintenance service and for deciding to use the xpcshell cert
2603. # [20:23] <bhearsum|buildduty> ah
2604. # [20:23] <bbondy> if you rename that key and re-run the test it should pass
2605. # [20:23] <bhearsum|buildduty> this probably came up because we switched to the new rev2 windows bulid machines
2606. # [20:24] <bbondy> gotcha, np, ping me if it's not solved
2607. # [20:24] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: just to make sure i understand...
2608. # [20:24] <bhearsum|buildduty> if we don't have these entries in the registry, the test should pass
2609. # [20:24] <bbondy> correct
2610. # [20:25] <bhearsum|buildduty> hm
2611. # [20:25] <bbondy> udpater.exe has 3 embedded certs at the moment, primary, secondary, and fallback-xpcshell-override.
2612. # [20:25] <bbondy> if that key is present, it'll use the xpcshell-override one
2613. # [20:25] <bhearsum|buildduty> oh god
2614. # [20:25] <bbondy> but the mar was signed with the primary
2615. # [20:25] <bhearsum|buildduty> what a horrible hack
2616. # [20:25] <bhearsum|buildduty> i remember this now
2617. # [20:25] <bbondy> this is all changing with the multi platform verification btw
2618. # [20:25] <bhearsum|buildduty> hooray!
2619. # [20:25] <bbondy> at that point we only store primary and secondary
2620. # [20:25] <bbondy> and there is no dependency on that reg key
2621. # [20:25] <bhearsum|buildduty> yay
2622. # [20:26] <bbondy> :)
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2624. # [20:26] <bhearsum|buildduty> i owe you a beverage of your choice when that ships
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2626. # [20:26] <bbondy> haha
2627. # [20:26] <bhearsum|buildduty> i should really stop bribing people...
2628. # [20:26] <bbondy> I'll need one the day it lands
2629. # [20:26] <bhearsum|buildduty> haha
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2631. # [20:27] <bbondy> ya I owe khuey a box of cookies for 2 years now, with interest that may be several boxes by now
2632. # [20:27] <bhearsum|buildduty> haha
2633. # [20:28] <bhearsum|buildduty> i bribed him with maple cream cookies once too...
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2635. # [20:28] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: one more question...
2636. # [20:28] <bhearsum|buildduty> how does this work on users' machines, who have the maintenance service reg entries?
2637. # [20:29] <bbondy> they don't have that special key unless they manually added them and they have admin access
2638. # [20:29] <bbondy> elevated
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2640. # [20:29] <bbondy> one would add them if they wanted to run the tests locally only
2641. # [20:29] <bhearsum|buildduty> ah
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2650. # [20:35] <bbondy> bhearsum|buildduty: forgot to mention that the key will still exist after the multi plaform mar verification work lands, but it just won't be used for mar verification checks in updater.exe. Instead it'll only be used for maintenance service checks on the exes.
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2653. # [20:36] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: on our machines, or user machines?
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2657. # [20:37] <bbondy> no users machines has the reg key, so ya on build machines or on machines that manually want to use it. The whole idea of a bypass fallback key will still exist, it just won't be used for mar verification anymore. Only for bypassing authenticode cert checks from the maintenance service.
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2659. # [20:37] <bhearsum|buildduty> ah
2660. # [20:38] <bhearsum|buildduty> i see
2661. # [20:38] <bhearsum|buildduty> so that's only for automated maintenance service tests then
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2663. # [20:38] <bbondy> yep
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2689. # [20:51] <billm> khuey: ping
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2693. # [20:53] <@ehsan> dammit
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2696. # [20:54] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: backed out
2697. # [20:54] <@ehsan> oh
2698. # [20:55] <@ehsan> not quite yet
2699. # [20:55] <@ehsan> k, done
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2717. # [21:02] <jdm> glob|away: \o/
2718. # [21:02] <jdm> comment tagging looks so useful
2719. # [21:02] <jdm> and X-Bugzilla-Mentors!
2720. # [21:02] <jdm> christmas comes early
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2731. # [21:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> tn: OSX reftest orange on inbound
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2734. # [21:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> tn: looks like needs-fuzzing (the diff is on the scrollbar)
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2736. # [21:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: OOC, did that build locally for you? It's dying on every platform
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2738. # [21:13] <tn> RyanVM|sheriffduty: thanks, i'll take a look and land some kind of fix
2739. # [21:13] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: the answer is embarrassing :(
2740. # [21:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> tn: i was about to push a fuzz patch
2741. # [21:13] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I was looking at the wrong shell window
2742. # [21:14] <@ehsan> sorry!
2743. # [21:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: doh :P
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2745. # [21:14] <@ehsan> (but no, it failed to build for me locally as well!)
2746. # [21:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> tn: it's 10.6-only
2747. # [21:14] <tn> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok, you can push a fuzz patch. easier for me that way :)
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2751. # [21:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> tn: I'm just checking to see if I can fuzz just 10.6 or if I have to do all OSX
2752. # [21:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> tn: I mean, when the diff is in the scrollbar, would you have done anything different?
2753. # [21:15] * coop is now known as coop|afk
2754. # [21:15] <tn> RyanVM|sheriffduty: was thinking if i could get rid of the scroll bars, or just cover them up, but fuzz on 10.6 only would be ideal
2755. # [21:15] <bkelly> do we have a standard b.m.o comment tag to indicate "ignore this comment"?
2756. # [21:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> tn: OK, I just want whatever's better in the long run
2757. # [21:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> tn: "OSX":10.6 - w00t
2758. # [21:17] <tn> RyanVM|sheriffduty: if the problem is 10.6 only then i think fuzz is the best solution. if it was on more recent versions that might be different.
2759. # [21:17] <tn> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yay
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2761. # [21:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> tn: r?
2762. # [21:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> -== 933264-1.html 933264-1-ref.html
2763. # [21:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> +fuzzy-if(OSX==10.6,2,30) == 933264-1.html 933264-1-ref.html
2764. # [21:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> (since you're here)
2765. # [21:19] <tn> RyanVM|sheriffduty: r+
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2769. # [21:19] * philor is shocked that we landed bustage on bustage
2770. # [21:20] <tn> RyanVM|sheriffduty: thanks!
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2772. # [21:20] <philor> unless there's a third one under there, then I won't be shocked
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2774. # [21:20] <tn> philor: if we didn't we'd be wasting valuable time when there was no bustage!
2775. # [21:20] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: um, might want to rethink that top star
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2777. # [21:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> oops, thanks
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2786. # [21:22] <philor> and the bottom ones, tbsaunde actually had first bustage
2787. # [21:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: yeah
2788. # [21:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> working on the backout now
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2791. # [21:22] <philor> I keep thinking he'll learn to stop touching rdf, because no good can possibly come of it
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2794. # [21:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: at least there's only one net push after tbsaunde at this point :)
2795. # [21:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ugh
2796. # [21:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bholley: inbound orange
2797. # [21:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> there goes any chance of me merging inbound today
2798. # [21:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bholley: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=31760246&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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2801. # [21:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: and this is where I go into Gordon Ramsey mode
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2829. # [21:41] <reuben> is there some utility to strtol an nsString?
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2831. # [21:43] <Ms2ger> reuben, probably, if you tell me what it does rather than refer to some obscurely named c function
2832. # [21:43] <reuben> Ms2ger: string to long
2833. # [21:43] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: man 3 strtol?
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2835. # [21:43] <tbsaunde> reuben: there's certainly ParseFloat I forget if they'res anythinbg else
2836. # [21:44] <Ms2ger> ToInteger or ToInteger64?
2837. # [21:44] <reuben> tbsaunde: you have to explain what that does instead of referring to some obscure unix tool :P
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2839. # [21:44] <reuben> oh would you look at that
2840. # [21:44] <reuben> Ms2ger: thanks!
2841. # [21:45] <tbsaunde> reuben: get off my lawn :p
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2848. # [21:48] <froydnj> ehsan: doh, nice catch
2849. # [21:48] <@ehsan> froydnj: I'm writing a patch
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2864. # [21:54] <@ehsan> BenWa: ping
2865. # [21:54] <BenWa> ehsan: i saw
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2867. # [21:55] <@ehsan> BenWa: how important is it for mozilla_sampler_add_marker to remain inline?
2868. # [21:55] <BenWa> not terribly
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2870. # [21:55] <@ehsan> BenWa: ok I'll take it out of line then
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2872. # [21:55] <BenWa> ty
2873. # [21:55] <@ehsan> BenWa: any preferences on where its impl should live?
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2875. # [21:56] <BenWa> platform.cpp
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2889. # [22:01] <alagenchev> I just did apt-get update and started getting a bunch of compiler errors. Something to do with libsoundtouch: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3750693 Any ideas how I can fix this?
2890. # [22:02] <hub> looks like session restore failed to restore my other windows :-/
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2896. # [22:06] <KWierso|sheriffduty> hub: are they listed under "recently closed windows"?
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2898. # [22:06] <hub> KWierso|sheriffduty: nope. it is empty
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2900. # [22:07] <KWierso|sheriffduty> hub: sessionstore.bak file in your profile folder?
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2902. # [22:07] <bbondy> search on dxr -> internal server error
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2905. # [22:08] <KWierso|sheriffduty> bbondy: open dxr -> internal server error :\
2906. # [22:09] <hub> KWierso|sheriffduty: it is 440KB bigger the .bak
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2909. # [22:09] <avih> is the bot which declares pushes broken?
2910. # [22:09] <Ms2ger> The sheriffs, you mean?
2911. # [22:09] <hub> KWierso|sheriffduty: I'll see about filing a bug once out of this meeting
2912. # [22:09] <avih> Ms2ger: i thought it was a bot...
2913. # [22:09] <hub> ...
2914. # [22:10] <KWierso|sheriffduty> hub: make a copy of it somewhere else, close firefox, rename that .bak file as a .js file, copy it back into the profile folder and start it back up?
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2917. # [22:10] <avih> Ms2ger: isn't it?
2918. # [22:10] <KWierso|sheriffduty> avih: firebot seems to have run off
2919. # [22:10] <Ms2ger> avih, it's a tool that's manually run by sheriffs :)
2920. # [22:10] <Ms2ger> Oh!
2921. # [22:10] <KWierso|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: ur a tool
2922. # [22:10] <Ms2ger> Sorry, I thought you meant something else
2923. # [22:10] <KWierso|sheriffduty> :)
2924. # [22:10] <Ms2ger> KWierso|sheriffduty, <3
2925. # [22:10] <avih> :)
2926. # [22:10] <Ms2ger> Shouldn't you be taking pto?
2927. # [22:10] <hub> KWierso|sheriffduty: yeah I'll try that ASAP
2928. # [22:11] <KWierso|sheriffduty> hub: beyond that, I'm out of ideas :(
2929. # [22:11] <KWierso|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: tomorrow?
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2931. # [22:11] <Ms2ger> Oh, didn't read well enough, then :)
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2933. # [22:11] <KWierso|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: that's like the third misreading of PTO messages I've encountered today :P
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2935. # [22:15] <hub> KWierso|sheriffduty: yeah, I'll file a bug as appropriate with STR
2936. # [22:15] <Ms2ger> KWierso|sheriffduty, not used to people doing that so early :)
2937. # [22:15] <KWierso|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: if I don't do it the moment I think of it, I'll forget that I haven't done it :P
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2940. # [22:15] <KWierso|sheriffduty> then come back to angry pings from RyanVM :P
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2943. # [22:18] <vlad> life is so sad when we start to build ICU and my cpu utilization drops down to 20%
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2947. # [22:19] <bz> vlad: The better for it to see you?
2948. # [22:19] * nrc prescribes vlad all the prozac
2949. # [22:20] <grobinson> dxr is down?
2950. # [22:20] <nrc> grobinson: apparently, they are on it in #static
2951. # [22:20] <grobinson> nrc: thanks :)
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3000. # [22:40] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: darn right
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3035. # [22:57] <@khuey> billm: pong
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3037. # [22:57] <sstangl> froydnj: how do I check the number of static constructors?
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3040. # [22:57] <@khuey> Callek--
3041. # [22:58] * bhearsum|buildduty is now known as bhearsum|afk
3042. # [22:58] <Callek> khuey: huh?
3043. # [22:58] <froydnj> sstangl: tbpl will tell you how many there are if you click on a Linux |B|
3044. # [22:58] <@khuey> Callek: you replied to all
3045. # [22:58] <Callek> ahhh right, yea I did that from phone and didn't realize everyone@ was anything more than a BCC
3046. # [22:58] <sstangl> froydnj: the num_ctors?
3047. # [22:58] <Callek> and kicked myself after I noticed
3048. # [22:58] <froydnj> sstangl: that's the one
3049. # [22:59] <billm> khuey: I guess all I really need to know is whether MOZ_B2G is set in the emulator. I'm guessing yes.
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3055. # [22:59] <@khuey> billm: yeah
3056. # [22:59] <@khuey> billm: it's compiled for android and everything
3057. # [22:59] <billm> khuey: ok. I'm really confused about this scoping bug, then. I'll just keep looking at it though.
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3062. # [23:01] <@khuey> billm: did the orange appear on the run with the pref flipped?
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3064. # [23:01] <billm> khuey: no, but I don't think flipping the pref had any effect. see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682048#c33
3065. # [23:02] <@khuey> billm: oh yeah, we hardcoded that
3066. # [23:02] <@khuey> fuck
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3070. # [23:02] <billm> khuey: I don't understand why the orange happened before but not in this run, since the pref shouldn't have done anything. I think maybe it was just a fluke.
3071. # [23:03] <RyanVM> what's the right component for a startup cache crash?
3072. # [23:03] * mattwoodrow|away is now known as mattwoodrow
3073. # [23:03] <bz> OK, repeat after me:
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3075. # [23:03] <billm> khuey: while you're here, can you explain what mThisObjects is for?
3076. # [23:03] <bz> if your code is using JSAPI, it's probably bugy.
3077. # [23:03] <bz> We should have this engraved on people's keyboards or something.
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3085. # [23:06] <@khuey> billm: when we do Cu.import in the one compartment scenario, we can't put the properties on the real global
3086. # [23:07] <@khuey> we have to put them on the fake global for that function
3087. # [23:08] <billm> khuey: ironically, this sounds a lot like the scoping patch that I'm working on
3088. # [23:08] <@khuey> indeed
3089. # [23:08] <@khuey> billm: do you understand how the compartment sharing works?
3090. # [23:09] <billm> khuey: so each module gets an object where its properties go, and all those objects belong to one compartment. is there anything else?
3091. # [23:09] <billm> khuey: and when we Cu.import, we're supposed to import into the fake this object, rather than the global?
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3096. # [23:11] <@khuey> billm: so we compile each script inside of a function
3097. # [23:12] <@khuey> billm: and then create a separate "this" object for each script
3098. # [23:12] <@khuey> billm: and apply the function to that this object
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3100. # [23:12] <@khuey> so that this object mostly behaves like a global
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3102. # [23:14] <gozala> bz: is there way to get frameElement in which content document is loaded from the content window ?
3103. # [23:15] <billm> khuey: one thing I don't understand right now is how it works without mReuseLoaderGlobal. it seems like we always create only one global per mozJSComponentLoader (mLoaderGlobal). doesn't each JSM normally get its own global?
3104. # [23:15] <gozala> bz: I basically need to figure frame of the window for which content-document-global-created notification occured
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3106. # [23:16] <bz> gozala: any way for script running in that window, or for someone in general?
3107. # [23:16] <db48x> is anyone else annoyed by the recent changes to MDN?
3108. # [23:16] <db48x> http://db48x.net/MDN-fix.css
3109. # [23:16] <gaston> Callek: any eta/problems for sm 2.23 final ?
3110. # [23:17] <gozala> no it’s content iframe so not for the script
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3112. # [23:17] <gozala> for the observer in the chrome code
3113. # [23:17] <Callek> gaston: likely tomorrow, the problem was more on the "personal callek had issues" side
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3115. # [23:17] <gozala> bz: observer of content-document-global-created notification
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3117. # [23:17] <Callek> gaston: e.g. lost power for half the day today :/
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3119. # [23:17] <gaston> ugh :)
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3122. # [23:18] <gaston> thanks for the update :)
3123. # [23:18] <@khuey> billm: mLoaderGlobal is null i nthat case
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3126. # [23:19] <db48x> https://bug948274.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8345532
3127. # [23:19] <bz> gozala: Thinking
3128. # [23:19] <billm> khuey: oh, I see. I was reading too quickly. I thought that the !mLoaderGlobal case would set mLoaderGlobal.
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3130. # [23:19] <gozala> bz: I was thinking maybe somehow using nsIDocShellTreeItem
3131. # [23:19] <@khuey> billm: yeah, the code is kind of messy
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3133. # [23:19] <bz> gozala: We seem to have no sane API for this
3134. # [23:19] <@khuey> it was supposed to be temporary
3135. # [23:19] <bz> gozala: should just add one
3136. # [23:20] <gozala> I’ll create a bug for that
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3138. # [23:20] <bz> Implementing it is trivial
3139. # [23:20] <gozala> bz: in the meantime insane API would help too
3140. # [23:20] <bz> and if we make it [ChromeOnly]....
3141. # [23:20] <bz> Insane API...
3142. # [23:20] * bz is thinking
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3146. # [23:21] <bz> insane API would be getting the parent docshell
3147. # [23:21] <bz> then enumerating all elements in its document
3148. # [23:21] <bz> including XBL anon content
3149. # [23:21] <bz> and asking each of them whether it's the thing for that docshell
3150. # [23:22] <gozala> bz: thanks
3151. # [23:22] <bz> Writing that up is more work than adding a [ChromeOnly] getter for mFrameElement, I expect.
3152. # [23:22] <gozala> bz: which component should it fall into ?
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3154. # [23:22] <bbondy> bsmedberg: Would you be ok if I made this defined on all platforms (renamed to XRE_GetEnvironmentType), and returned EnvironmentType_Desktop on everything except for windows? http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/build/nsXULAppAPI.h#466 Would clean up a lot of code. jimm can do the review but wnated me to pass it by you first.
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3156. # [23:23] <@bsmedberg> bbondy: I'm unhappy that is an XRE_ api at all. Why does that need to be an embedding/external API?
3157. # [23:23] <@bsmedberg> bbondy: also, how would this be useful?
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3165. # [23:24] <bbondy> well usefulness about making it not windows only is just to remove a couple dozen ifdefs http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?tree=mozilla-central&q=XRE_GetWindowsEnvironment&redirect=true
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3168. # [23:24] <bz> gozala: "DOM"
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3171. # [23:25] <bbondy> why it's like that originally I don't know.
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3175. # [23:25] <@bsmedberg> bbondy: I think we want those ifdefs
3176. # [23:26] <bbondy> jimm^ so are you ok with me just putting in the ifdefs in that new patch? :)
3177. # [23:26] <@bsmedberg> most of those uses are in windows-specific code anyway
3178. # [23:27] <@bsmedberg> startupcache/prefs/gfxscrollframe are all unique enough that I'd want those ifdefs to stay
3179. # [23:27] <bbondy> k Ill just leave it as is, thanks for the quick feedback before I wasted time doing it
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3181. # [23:29] <bbondy> there was a patch that had a few uses of that function in review for profile manager, and there was concern about adding ifdefs around the code at a bunch of places.
3182. # [23:29] <jimm> bsmedberg: where would you prefer it live?
3183. # [23:30] <jimm> bbondy: sounds good
3184. # [23:30] <@bsmedberg> jimm: a new header would be fine, if there's not a good header already
3185. # [23:30] <bz> jimm: Thanks for looking at that bug!
3186. # [23:30] <@bsmedberg> jimm: nsXULAppAPI.h is an embedder-focused header, and I keep fighting so people don't add new stuff to it, that's all ;-)
3187. # [23:31] * @bsmedberg needs to clean it out again at some point
3188. # [23:31] <jimm> bz: sure!
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3191. # [23:33] * bbondy can't wait until there's a second enviornment type we support in some other OS then we can make some kind of abstraction that is cross platform for this kind of thing :)
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3194. # [23:34] <gozala> bz: I looked into what it would take to do it, and it seems that API already exists
3195. # [23:34] <gozala> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=948672#c1
3196. # [23:34] <bz> gozala: oh, on windowutils
3197. # [23:34] <bz> gozala: That's an annoying API, but does work....
3198. # [23:35] <tbsaunde> glandium: karl is the earlies version of gtk we support now 2.18?
3199. # [23:35] <gozala> bz: since I managed to get hold of you can I ask you one more thing
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3201. # [23:35] <gozala> as no one else was able to help me out
3202. # [23:35] <gozala> bz: here is an example code https://gist.github.com/Gozala/7883551
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3204. # [23:35] <karl> tbsaunde: yes, for mozilla builds; seamonkey is building against earlier versions
3205. # [23:35] <gozala> it can be run using scratchpad in browser context
3206. # [23:35] <bz> gozala: I'd still consider sticking this as [ChromeOnly] API on window....
3207. # [23:36] * bz looks at gist
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3210. # [23:36] <gozala> bz intent is to load add-on page in the nested iframe to let it talk to privileged code via parent.postMessage
3211. # [23:37] <bz> So you create an iframe
3212. # [23:37] <gozala> add-on code can hook into outer frame to receive messages
3213. # [23:37] <glandium> tbsaunde: build or runtime ?
3214. # [23:37] <bz> which is using srcdoc
3215. # [23:37] <bz> and is sandboxed
3216. # [23:37] <bz> so it gets a non-system principal, right?
3217. # [23:38] <bz> Then of course it can't link to resource:// URIs!
3218. # [23:38] <tbsaunde> karl: ok, my real question is if I can have libxul use symbols that only exist in atk 1.9 which I guess the answer is yes since gtk 2.18 requires atk 1.13 and centos6 has much newer than that so seamonkey is probably fine
3219. # [23:38] <gozala> bz: it dose get null principal at least thats what error says
3220. # [23:38] <bz> right
3221. # [23:38] <bz> I would expect that for a sandboxed iframe
3222. # [23:38] <bz> Loading a resource:// URI in a subframe needs system privileges
3223. # [23:38] <tbsaunde> glandium: runtime
3224. # [23:38] <bz> or being a resource:// page yourself
3225. # [23:38] <bz> Otherwise CheckLoadURI will fail
3226. # [23:39] <bz> Which is the "may not load or link" error you get
3227. # [23:39] <gozala> bz: with system privileges inner frame won’t be able to talk to parent though
3228. # [23:39] <glandium> tbsaunde: yeah i think it's 2.18 for mozilla builds. local builds may have different requirements
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3230. # [23:39] <bz> ok
3231. # [23:39] <bz> wait, why not?
3232. # [23:39] <bz> Also, why do you need this two-level nesting?
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3235. # [23:40] <gozala> bz so add-on page is loaded in the inner frame
3236. # [23:40] <karl> tbsaunde: i think seamonkey is using centos5 to build, but i wouldn't worry too much about running against systems without gtk 2.18, except that seamonkey builds probably do a quick test run on centos 5
3237. # [23:40] <tbsaunde> glandium: k, guess I'll go ahead with this patch then, it should be terrible to back out if we find we need to
3238. # [23:40] <bz> ok
3239. # [23:40] <bz> which is "inner frame"?
3240. # [23:40] <tbsaunde> err, shouldn't be terrible
3241. # [23:40] <gozala> and it should be able to talk to add-on via postMessage like window.parent.postMessage
3242. # [23:40] <bz> The srcdoc frame?
3243. # [23:40] <bz> Or the frame it loads?
3244. # [23:40] <glandium> tbsaunde: what patch?
3245. # [23:40] <Callek> karl: well yea, but I should note we *really* want to get SeaMonkey machines to use Cent6 like MoCo ones
3246. # [23:40] <gozala> bz inner is the one inside the other frame
3247. # [23:40] <Callek> karl: we even have hardware for that, just not properly imaged hardware
3248. # [23:40] <bz> ok
3249. # [23:41] <bz> so the thing in the inner frame is an addon page....
3250. # [23:41] <tbsaunde> glandium: just about to file the bug why don't I cc you
3251. # [23:41] <bz> ah, and you want it to be able to do window.parent at all?
3252. # [23:41] <gozala> bz: yes content privileged
3253. # [23:41] <bz> as in, you need a content/chrome boundary there
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3255. # [23:41] <Callek> tbsaunde: ^ my replies to karlt should also be read by you
3256. # [23:41] <gozala> bz well if I do content chrome boundly content can no longer talk to parent
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3258. # [23:41] <gozala> I get exceptions
3259. # [23:42] <gozala> about privileges
3260. # [23:42] <bz> I mean you need a content/chrome boundary on the outer iframe
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3262. # [23:42] <gozala> so I’m trying nested contents
3263. # [23:42] <bz> not on the inner one
3264. # [23:42] <gozala> bz: that’s correct
3265. # [23:42] <gozala> that’s why I sandbox it
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3268. # [23:43] <gozala> bz: so is there some solution that would not require another resource url with iframe in it
3269. # [23:43] <bz> gozala: mozframetype="content"?
3270. # [23:43] * bz is a bit wary of us overusing that...
3271. # [23:44] <bz> alsom, mozbrowser implies type="content"
3272. # [23:44] <bz> so why do you need the sandbox?
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3275. # [23:44] <tbsaunde> Callek: centos5 may actually be good enough for what I need, the things I'm desupporting are really really ancient
3276. # [23:44] <gozala> so that outer frame won’t be able to get to it’s owner
3277. # [23:44] <gozala> bz: but maybe I don't
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3282. # [23:46] <bz> gozala: mozbrowser should give you the same effect as type="content" on a xul:iframe would
3283. # [23:46] <Callek> tbsaunde: this is not cent 5.9 or even 5.5 though, fwiw
3284. # [23:46] <Callek> operatingsystem => CentOS
3285. # [23:46] <Callek> operatingsystemrelease => 5.0
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3288. # [23:46] <bz> gozala: now then your problem might be that the outer frame runs as system!
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3290. # [23:46] <gozala> bz: ok using mozframetype=“content” instead of sandbox seems to work
3291. # [23:46] <bz> gozala: so it can just got via windowutils
3292. # [23:47] <bz> gozala: please try removing that too?
3293. # [23:47] <bz> gozala: just mozbrowser should do the trick
3294. # [23:47] <tbsaunde> Callek: wow, though I doubt they'd change this lib in a point release, but with rhel who really knows ;)
3295. # [23:47] * bz would like to kill off mozframetype
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3297. # [23:47] <Callek> tbsaunde: sent you a pm with rpm versions we have installed presently
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3299. # [23:48] <Mossop> mozbrowser is in desktop too now?
3300. # [23:48] <mrbkap> Does anybody know how browser chrome tests work?
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3302. # [23:48] <gozala> bz: in that case frame.contentWindow is [object ChromeWindow]
3303. # [23:48] <mrbkap> Are they loaded into a window or... something else?
3304. # [23:48] <gozala> with mozframetype it’s not chrome
3305. # [23:48] <gozala> Mossop: it is in nightly at least
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3307. # [23:49] <gozala> Mossop: it was possible to switch it on for iframes with xpcom stuff before too
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3309. # [23:49] <Mossop> Awesome
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3312. # [23:49] <gozala> bz: so if I remove mozframetype how do I make it content window ?
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3314. # [23:50] <tbsaunde> Callek: yeah, thanks!
3315. # [23:50] <gozala> bz: also it would be nice to just have a srcdoc for xul iframes
3316. # [23:51] <Mossop> mrbkap: Basically create an object in the browser window then use the subscript loader to load the test file into that object's scope
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3318. # [23:51] <Mossop> mrbkap: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/browser-test.js#485 has some dettails
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3320. # [23:53] <mrbkap> Mossop: ah-ha, thanks.
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3326. # [23:57] <gozala> bz: is there any other way to make my iframe document of content type without use of mozframetype ?
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3330. # [23:58] <gozala> bz: actually I was wrong, so ignore my last comments thanks
3331. # [23:59] <bz> gozala: mozbrowser should make it a content window
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