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  1. # Session Start: Wed Dec 11 00:00:01 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
  3. # [00:00] <bz> gozala: adding srcdoc support for xul:iframe is possible, but better to just make html:iframe work
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  17. # [00:09] <gozala> bz: so if I understand you correctly this should work https://gist.github.com/Gozala/7883551#file-more-attempts-js
  18. # [00:09] <gozala> but it does not
  19. # [00:09] <gozala> because of Security Error: Content at about:srcdoc may not load or link to resource:///chrome/browser/content/browser/aboutRobots.xhtml
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  26. # [00:19] <philor> terrence: red
  27. # [00:21] <terrence> philor: so it is!
  28. # [00:22] <terrence> philor: didn't know layout was using js::HashTable... will back out
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  34. # [00:24] <bholley> jgriffin: ping
  35. # [00:24] <jgriffin> bholley: pong
  36. # [00:24] <bholley> jgriffin: who should I talk about gaia-ui tests?
  37. # [00:25] <bholley> jgriffin: I'm trying to follow the instructions here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Platform/Automated_testing/gaia-ui-tests/Gaia_UI_Tests_Run_Tests#Testing_locally_with_TBPL_configuration_%28for_Gecko_and_Gaia_developers%29
  38. # [00:25] <bholley> jgriffin: but I'm getting "timed out waiting for port"
  39. # [00:25] <jgriffin> what kind of build are you using?
  40. # [00:25] <bholley> jgriffin: I'll paste my mozconfig
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  42. # [00:26] <bholley> jgriffin:
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  44. # [00:26] <bholley> jgriffin: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3751316
  45. # [00:26] <jgriffin> bholley: s/MARIONETTE_ENABLED/ENABLE_MARIONETTE/
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  47. # [00:27] <bholley> jgriffin: are you serious?
  48. # [00:27] <bholley> jgriffin: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Marionette/Builds
  49. # [00:27] <bholley> jgriffin: did this change recently or something?
  50. # [00:27] <jgriffin> no
  51. # [00:27] <jgriffin> that page is just erroneous :(
  52. # [00:27] <bholley> jgriffin: awesome. Ok, I'll rebuild
  53. # [00:27] <bholley> jgriffin: next question
  54. # [00:27] <jgriffin> thanks, I'll fix the page
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  57. # [00:28] <bholley> jgriffin: I'm trying to debug some marionette webapi failures: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=add57f1c9064
  58. # [00:28] <bholley> jgriffin: but I'm getting frustrated with the logging
  59. # [00:29] <bholley> jgriffin: in particular, none of the logging I added in https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/add57f1c9064 shows up
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  61. # [00:29] <bholley> jgriffin: I realize in retrospect that the NS_WARNINGs aren't going to work, because these are opt builds
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  65. # [00:30] <serge> hi, is there a way to exactly clone a browser element (including javascript state) using xul?
  66. # [00:30] <jgriffin> bholley: yeah I don't know that fprintf works either
  67. # [00:30] <bholley> jgriffin: (which is very unfortunate, because console spew is one of the best ways to debug these sorts of failures and timeouts)
  68. # [00:30] <jgriffin> let me find an exampleof something that does
  69. # [00:30] <bholley> jgriffin: that would be great :-)
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  71. # [00:32] <sstangl> froydnj: finally got the result back, num_ctors went from 94 to 123. Is there some nice way to find out where those are?
  72. # [00:34] <bholley> jgriffin: is it possible to turn NS_WARNING on for these builds
  73. # [00:34] <jgriffin> bholley: so printf_stderr works in B2G: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/nsCRTGlue.cpp#313
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  77. # [00:35] <jgriffin> bholley: I don't know, they may work already in debug emulator builds
  78. # [00:36] <jgriffin> bholley: gwagner might know
  79. # [00:36] <bholley> jgriffin: well, if we're running opt builds on TBPL, I think we should turn on warnings for those builds
  80. # [00:36] <jgriffin> gwagner: ^
  81. # [00:36] <bholley> jgriffin: since probably 2/3rds of the time, it's possible to figure out what's going wrong in the platform wit warning spew
  82. # [00:36] <bholley> *with
  83. # [00:36] <jgriffin> yeah I'm all for that
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  85. # [00:38] <bholley> jgriffin: the only downside is that it's not testing the bits we ship
  86. # [00:38] <bholley> jgriffin: but these are emulator builds anyway
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  91. # [00:40] <bholley> jgriffin: I'll file a bug
  92. # [00:41] <jgriffin> thanks
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  101. # [00:46] <froydnj> sstangl: hm. do you have a linux box?
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  108. # [00:49] <sstangl> froydnj: yes
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  112. # [00:52] <froydnj> sstangl: if you do "readelf -W --syms $objdir/dist/bin/libxul.so|grep _GLOBAL__sub", you should be able to see at least the files where the constructors are coming from
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  123. # [00:59] <bholley> jgriffin: still there?
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  126. # [00:59] <jgriffin> bholley: yes
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  128. # [01:00] <bholley> jgriffin: so, now the tests are running, but they're failing pretty early
  129. # [01:00] <bholley> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3751493
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  133. # [01:01] <bholley> jgriffin: my try run fails too, but a bit after. test_get_all_settings works, at least. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=31763397&tree=Try&full=1
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  135. # [01:01] <bholley> jgriffin: so I think I'm still getting stuck on something before the real failure. It keeps rebooting itself for every tests - not sure if that's normal?
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  137. # [01:01] <jgriffin> yes, the problem you see on TBPL has been affecting our Jenkins runs too
  138. # [01:02] <jgriffin> I'm not sure what's going on, zac or davehunt (in Europe) may be able to tell you tomorrow am
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  140. # [01:02] <jgriffin> bholley: if you take out --restart it should stop rebootingh
  141. # [01:02] <bholley> jgriffin: it appears to become non-intermittent with my patches
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  145. # [01:03] <jgriffin> I'm not sure about the 'voice is null' error
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  147. # [01:03] <jgriffin> fwiw, we aren't running these tests on debug osx anywhere right now
  148. # [01:04] <jgriffin> so it could be something related to that
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  150. # [01:04] <jgriffin> the voice error is apparently coming from here: https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/blob/master/apps/system/js/lockscreen.js#L906
  151. # [01:04] <jgriffin> but I have no idea what's causing it
  152. # [01:05] <bholley> jgriffin: hm
  153. # [01:05] <bholley> jgriffin: so, by taking out the --restart, I can get the tests to actually run
  154. # [01:05] <bholley> jgriffin: looks like they just kinda fail while the thing is booting up
  155. # [01:06] <jgriffin> perhaps they're not waiting long enough for a debug build
  156. # [01:06] <bholley> jgriffin: yeah, could be
  157. # [01:06] <bholley> jgriffin: but unfortunately, the failure from TBPL _doesn't_ reproduce
  158. # [01:06] <bholley> yuck
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  160. # [01:07] <bholley> jgriffin: did your suggestion above imply that this is actually an existing issue, and that these patches potentially just made it less-intermittent?
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  163. # [01:07] <@khuey> Waldo: ping?
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  165. # [01:07] <Waldo> khuey: pong
  166. # [01:08] <bholley> jgriffin: if so, can I just NEEDINFO zac on the bug and let him deal with it? ;-)
  167. # [01:08] <jgriffin> bholley: that problem seems to be https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=948395
  168. # [01:08] <@khuey> Waldo: you're familiar with our atomic impl?
  169. # [01:08] <@khuey> or should I talk to jcranmer?
  170. # [01:08] <Waldo> khuey: up there, at least
  171. # [01:08] <Waldo> khuey: you rang?
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  173. # [01:08] <jgriffin> bholley: he's probably the best person to help you understand how much of this is a known problem vs problems introduced by your patch
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  175. # [01:09] <@khuey> Waldo: any reason you can think of why our atomics wouldn't work in IPC shared memory on posix?
  176. # [01:09] <bholley> jgriffin: ok, roger that
  177. # [01:09] * @khuey suspects the answer is no, but just covering hte bases
  178. # [01:09] <jgriffin> bholley: I'll retrigger Gu a bunch of itmes in your try run
  179. # [01:09] <bholley> jgriffin: no need
  180. # [01:09] <jgriffin> oh ok
  181. # [01:09] <bholley> jgriffin: I already bisected it down
  182. # [01:09] <jgriffin> ok
  183. # [01:09] <Waldo> khuey: what compiler? we mostly depend on compiler intrinsics
  184. # [01:09] <bholley> jgriffin: see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=937317#c65
  185. # [01:09] <@khuey> Waldo: gcc
  186. # [01:09] <Waldo> khuey: also, initialization isn't atomic, if that makes a difference
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  188. # [01:10] <@khuey> Waldo: if we're using compiler intrinsics I suspect we're boiling down to hardware instructions
  189. # [01:10] <Waldo> khuey: that should be using either <atomic> if available, or the gcc atomics
  190. # [01:10] <@khuey> which I would expect to work across processes
  191. # [01:10] <Waldo> khuey: yeah, you pretty much should be in that case
  192. # [01:10] <@khuey> ok
  193. # [01:10] <@khuey> cool
  194. # [01:10] <@khuey> thanks
  195. # [01:10] <Waldo> khuey: could be you're racing already
  196. # [01:10] <@khuey> initialization isn't a problem here
  197. # [01:10] <jgriffin> bholley: ah cool, thanks
  198. # [01:10] <Waldo> khuey: or, you're just asking prospectively if there'd be an issue? shouldn't be
  199. # [01:10] <@khuey> Waldo: yeah, just looking to know if this is a known minefield
  200. # [01:11] <jcranmer> hmm
  201. # [01:11] <Waldo> nope, should work everywhere
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  203. # [01:11] <Waldo> mutexes, locks, threads, etc. could conceivably be more of an issue if/when we add them, but atomics should be fine if used according to contract
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  220. # [01:20] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: you around?
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  229. # [01:27] <@njn> nothing like logging into a machine on the other side of the Pacific
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  235. # [01:32] <jimm> njn: reminds me of the first time I used the internet.. gophering to a machine in Japan. totally blew my mind.
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  237. # [01:33] <@njn> jimm: I'm just bitching about latency, basically
  238. # [01:33] <@njn> :)
  239. # [01:33] <jimm> it's not as bad today as it was back in the early 90's. :)
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  246. # [01:35] <@njn> jimm: did the Pacific get smaller?
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  250. # [01:35] <froydnj> continental drift?
  251. # [01:36] <@njn> froydnj: Australia's moving north, which I guess takes us a little closer to the US
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  256. # [01:37] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: unping :)
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  264. # [01:42] <sicking> before mozilla did Prism, wasn't there some Opera thing that let you run a website outside of the browser?
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  266. # [01:42] <sicking> anyone here remember?
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  280. # [01:48] <mrbkap> sicking: I'm sure Opera did it first...
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  282. # [01:48] <mrbkap> Has anybody else seen fix-linux-stack.pl hanging on mochitest shutdown after running them under gdb?
  283. # [01:48] <@njn> oh man, the build slaves only have python 2.6, so I can't run |mach|
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  287. # [01:49] <@njn> mrbkap: hanging after shutdown with gdb sounds familiar, though I never worked out why
  288. # [01:49] * mrbkap will have to debug that later.
  289. # [01:49] <mrbkap> njn: It's definitely fix-linux-stack.pl's fault.
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  291. # [01:50] <mrbkap> That combined with only allowing one run per ./mach mochitest-browser command is pretty annoying...
  292. # [01:50] <@njn> is there an easy way to install python 2.7, or will I have to build from source?
  293. # [01:50] <@njn> gps might konw
  294. # [01:50] <@njn> *know
  295. # [01:51] <mrbkap> njn: install it where?
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  298. # [01:51] <@njn> mrbkap: on a build slave
  299. # [01:51] <@njn> mrbkap: I have a loaner
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  301. # [01:52] <WG9s> njn: I thought the build required 2.7 these days. How can a build slave not have it?
  302. # [01:52] * Mook_as is pretty sure even Opera comes after IE4 / *.hta / ActiveDesktop
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  304. # [01:53] <mrbkap> Mook_as: Clearly not -- "Opera did it first (TM)"!
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  313. # [01:56] <@njn> build slaves don't even have GCC installed. WTF?
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  315. # [01:56] <vlad> eh?
  316. # [01:56] <vlad> they should, just maybe not where you expect?
  317. # [01:57] <WG9s> njn: i think they have a build-tools directory let me check
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  322. # [01:58] <@njn> nthomas|away might know
  323. # [01:59] <WG9s> njn: try lookin in /tools/buildbot
  324. # [01:59] <WG9s> if there is one
  325. # [01:59] <WG9s> i snagged that from a build log
  326. # [01:59] <@njn> WG9s: I see python2.7 in there, but no GCC
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  329. # [02:00] <WG9s> look for that in just /tools/
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  331. # [02:01] <@njn> WG9s: there's no |gcc| or |g++| executable anywhere, according to |locate|
  332. # [02:01] <WG9s> has to be somewhere or how does it build?
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  338. # [02:04] <tbsaunde> njn: your sure this is a build slave not a test one?
  339. # [02:04] <@njn> tbsaunde: I asked for a build slave, and its name is "bld-linux64-ec2-nnethercote"
  340. # [02:05] <@njn> tbsaunde: I'm not sure of anything, I've never done this before, and it's entirely bewildering so far
  341. # [02:05] <WG9s> the one I am looking at logs on seems to have stuff in /tools/gcc-4.7.3-0moz1/bin/
  342. # [02:05] <@njn> WG9s: well this one doesn't
  343. # [02:05] <@njn> WG9s: but feel free to disbelieve me
  344. # [02:05] <tbsaunde> njn: I'd expect yum install gcc473_0moz1
  345. # [02:06] <philor> njn: look at a log to see what happens, in particular `mock_mozilla -r mozilla-centos6-x86_64 --install autoconf213 python zip mozilla-python27-mercurial git ccache glibc-static libstdc++-static perl-Test-Simple perl-Config-General gtk2-devel libnotify-devel yasm alsa-lib-devel libcurl-devel wireless-tools-devel libX11-devel libXt-devel mesa-libGL-devel gnome-vfs2-devel GConf2-devel wget mpfr xorg-x11-font* imake gcc45_0moz3 gcc454_0moz1 gcc4
  346. # [02:06] <philor> 72_0moz1 gcc473_0moz1 yasm ccache valgrind dbus-x11 pulseaudio-libs-devel gstreamer-devel gstreamer-plugins-base-devel freetype-2.3.11-6.el6_1.8.x86_64 freetype-devel-2.3.11-6.el6_1.8.x86_64
  347. # [02:06] <philor> `
  348. # [02:06] <tbsaunde> will work
  349. # [02:06] <WG9s> i am just looking at the full log file form a successful Linux 64-bit build
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  351. # [02:06] <tbsaunde> njn: ah yes, make sure you use mock_mozilla to get into the chroot builds are done in
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  353. # [02:07] <tbsaunde> njn: if its host name starts with bld it really should be a build one, so my gues would be you're not entering the chroot
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  355. # [02:08] <@njn> tbsaunde: I'm not; I had no idea that was required
  356. # [02:08] <@njn> tbsaunde: is there any docs about this?
  357. # [02:08] <@njn> https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/How_To/Request_a_slave doesn't mention it
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  359. # [02:10] <tbsaunde> njn: not that I'm aware of, iirc however loaned me a slave the first time just gave me basic instructions
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  361. # [02:12] * @njn starts blindly copying moz_mozilla commands from a log
  362. # [02:12] <@njn> *mock_mozilla
  363. # [02:13] <WG9s> but if these tools are not on installed on the slaves does this mean that each build re-installs the build tools it wants? In that case it could just be the valgrind builds are not installing the same version of some tool as non-valgrand and that is what is causing this issue in the first place.
  364. # [02:13] <dholbert> njn, s/mock/mach/? (or are you mocking mach?)
  365. # [02:13] <@njn> dholbert: no, there's something actually called |mock_mozilla|
  366. # [02:13] <dholbert> njn, ah. news to me :)
  367. # [02:14] <vlad> one day I'll be able to upgrade from an 11-11 nightly
  368. # [02:14] <tbsaunde> dholbert: its a releng thing on slaves
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  370. # [02:14] <dholbert> tbsaunde, gotcha
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  372. # [02:14] <tbsaunde> used to manage chroots basically
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  379. # [02:18] <nthomas> what philor said
  380. # [02:18] <catlee-away> njn: if you have a build slave, can you bisect?
  381. # [02:19] <nthomas> catlee-away: he's already tried going back to revisions that didn't timeout before
  382. # [02:19] <catlee-away> and?
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  384. # [02:20] <tbsaunde> aso, what is this hf job on tbpl?
  385. # [02:20] <mccr8> tbsaunde: GC hazards maybe?
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  388. # [02:20] <nthomas> catlee-away: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?showall=1&jobname=valgrind&rev=42b2a2adda8f - didn't timeout on the 6th, does now on various valgrind.sh incarnations
  389. # [02:21] * heycam|away is now known as heycam
  390. # [02:24] <@njn> catlee-away: bisect what? I'm still trying to get something actually running
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  393. # [02:25] <catlee-away> sorry,I thought you had identified a regression range
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  395. # [02:25] <@njn> catlee-away: I have, but I can't yet do anything useful with the build slave
  396. # [02:25] <@ehsan> ted: ping
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  404. # [02:28] <danieru> I want "hackathon" added to the firefox dictionary, how does that work? Open a bug?
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  433. # [02:43] <cpeterson> danieru: yes, just file a bug in Bugzilla. If you search around for "add word" or "dictionary" in bug summaries, you should find some fixed bugs. :)
  434. # [02:43] <danieru> thanks cpeterson
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  442. # [02:45] <@dolske> danieru: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=carnitas is a little dated example but afaik all still valid
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  447. # [02:47] <glob> ohh, it's a mexican dish
  448. # [02:47] <bkero> A mexican dish? In my bugzilla?
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  450. # [02:48] <@dolske> glob: you... what. did we let you visit CA without someone feeding you La Bamba?
  451. # [02:48] <mconnor> seriously
  452. # [02:48] <glob> i suspect you aren't talking about the song
  453. # [02:49] <@dolske> correct. the taqueria.
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  455. # [02:49] <glob> stop using words i have to google :)
  456. # [02:49] <cpeterson> dolske++ I love that the carnitas bug has its own "carnitas" alias.
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  458. # [02:49] * @njn has been to CA 5+ times without even hearing about La Bamba
  459. # [02:50] <@dolske> WHAT
  460. # [02:50] <cpeterson> I filed a dictionary bug to add "Helvetica".
  461. # [02:50] <glob> ^
  462. # [02:50] <glob> i haven't been in CA since .. last week
  463. # [02:50] <glob> dolske, ok, next time i'm in town i'll ping you
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  466. # [02:51] <@dolske> yes. I thought this was all documented in the employee guidelines.
  467. # [02:51] <@dolske> section C, "Mandatory Mexican".
  468. # [02:52] * glob generally isn't a fan of mexican food
  469. # [02:52] <@dolske> too spicy?
  470. # [02:53] <glob> yeah; not a fan of spicy food
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  472. # [02:54] <@dolske> hmm, fair. there are less-spicy options.
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  489. # [03:07] <@njn> dolske: I've eaten a ton of Mexican food in Texas, if that's any consolation
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  491. # [03:07] * @njn puts that on his performance review for 2014
  492. # [03:08] <@dolske> acceptable
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  528. # [03:40] <kbrosnan> mmm la bamba
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  530. # [03:41] <danieru> njn: how do you do that? Put things on your own performance review?
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  533. # [03:42] <danieru> "This year I ate lots of Mexican food exceeding commitments by 30%."
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  540. # [03:45] <danieru> or "blah; UPDATE reviews SET performance=\"Ate lots of Mexican food\" WHERE emp=njn; --"
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  547. # [03:55] <jdm> glob: what is the check used for "You are the mentor"? does it only match email addresses against the email recipient?
  548. # [03:55] * bz wonders why webapprt/locales/en-US/webapprt/overrides/dom.properties
  549. # [03:56] <glob> jdm, it looks for email, then unique match for :name, then a unique name for name
  550. # [03:56] <glob> jdm, so doing [method=glob] will find me via matching on :glob
  551. # [03:56] <jdm> glob: you rock
  552. # [03:56] * jdm is writing a blog post about it
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  554. # [03:57] <glob> jdm, it means that some people will have to always provide their full name... eg. :ashish matches both :ashish and :ashish_d
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  560. # [03:59] <jdm> glob: what's the format of X-Bugzilla-Mentors?
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  562. # [04:00] <glob> jdm, $email->header_set('X-Bugzilla-Mentors', join(', ', map { $_->login } @$mentors));
  563. # [04:00] <glob> in other words "comma space separated list of email addresses"
  564. # [04:01] <jdm> glob: email addresses or raw contents of the whiteboard tags?
  565. # [04:01] <jdm> oh, login
  566. # [04:01] <jdm> ok, good to know
  567. # [04:01] <glob> jdm, yeah; i figured that would be easier to filter on
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  641. # [05:10] <@njn> Ok, who added an undefined value error to nsDisplayOwnLayer::BuildLayer some time in the last few hours
  642. # [05:10] <@njn> ?
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  648. # [05:16] <glob> jdm, ping
  649. # [05:16] <jdm> glob: pong
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  651. # [05:16] <@khuey> bit late ... nevermind
  652. # [05:16] <glob> jdm, regarding your blog post; the X-Bugzilla-Mentors is always present
  653. # [05:16] <@njn> dammit I wish I knew why these |V| runs are timing out
  654. # [05:17] <jdm> glob: did I imply otherwise?
  655. # [05:17] <@njn> even with them timing out, Valgrind has still found a new error
  656. # [05:17] <glob> jdm, "the result will not be unique so no special headers or footer will be applied to any messages sent to Ashish"
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  658. # [05:17] <jdm> oh, right
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  660. # [05:18] <glob> :)
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  663. # [05:19] <glob> jdm, the only conditional part is we add "You are mentoring this bug" to the footer if there's a match
  664. # [05:20] <jdm> glob: well, the email address won't show up in the header if there's no unique result, right?
  665. # [05:20] <glob> that exists mostly so gmail users can perform filtering
  666. # [05:20] <glob> jdm, hey, that's an excellent point :)
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  701. # [05:58] <pablosingh> Hi is there anyone working on the PKCS12
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  705. # [06:00] <dougt> pablosingh: you probably want #security, and you probably want to ask a specific question
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  730. # [06:24] <@khuey> darkowlzz: it's 12:30 AM there
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  734. # [06:27] <darkowlzz> khuey, oh! any idea who could help with https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=944876 ?
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  811. # [07:51] <gps> Tomcat|sheriffduty: inbound bustage fix is pending. it's a clobber issue we suspect
  812. # [07:52] <gps> trying to fix this without touching CLOBBER
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  815. # [07:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gps: ok :)
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  824. # [08:02] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: landed a fixup
  825. # [08:02] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: cool thanks!
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  1083. # [10:36] <alice0775> Bug 948839, I wonder there are no automatic test is provided about D&D !!
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  1088. # [10:39] <jwatt> why are my builds now failing to find any icu symbols to link?
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  1099. # [10:43] <jwatt> baku|away: you're red
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  1104. # [10:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> baku|away: will do a clobber of the tree to make sure its just not a clobber issue
  1105. # [10:45] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I'd say unlikely, please backout?
  1106. # [10:45] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: and hi! :-)
  1107. # [10:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> oh
  1108. # [10:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ed is back :)
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  1110. # [10:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: hai :)
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  1113. # [10:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah will do the backout
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  1115. # [10:46] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: though green try run, so maybe... but either way if clobber-needed should have touched the CLOBBER file and bug filed for broken dependencies etc :-)
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  1123. # [10:50] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh edmorley my irc connection was killed too :)
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  1133. # [10:53] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: glad not just me! :-)
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  1135. # [10:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah people.mozilla.org was rebooted or so a week ago and since then irc is no more stable for me
  1136. # [10:54] <edmorley> ah
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  1157. # [11:19] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: it's possible
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  1166. # [11:27] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jduell: seems there is still a bustage on b2g-i
  1167. # [11:28] <jduell> Tomcat|sheriffduty: yup, I'm trying to parse it. I'll back out soon if I can't figure it out in next few minutes
  1168. # [11:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jduell: ok will close the tree for you
  1169. # [11:28] <jduell> thanks
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  1185. # [11:42] <jduell> Tomcat|sheriffduty: is there a way to back out 2 patches that aren't consecutive? If not, should I back one out and land with DONTBUILD then do the other?
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  1187. # [11:42] <jduell> Tomcat|sheriffduty: if you're better at this than me I'm happy to delegate :)
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  1189. # [11:43] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jduell: yeah i can try to backout, let me know which changesets :)
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  1191. # [11:44] <jduell> Tomcat|sheriffduty: 53377797571a and 3072c9af15b3 definitely need to go. The fix in cf2a20bbc6cf sounds like it's supposed to fix some sort of other bustage (just landed on m-c: see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=942317#c11)
  1192. # [11:44] <glandium> ah, firebot is not here
  1193. # [11:44] <jduell> so I don't know about that one. I'd back the 1st 2 out and see what it looks like
  1194. # [11:44] <jduell> Tomcat|sheriffduty: many thanks--I need to get to sleep :)
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  1196. # [11:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jduell: np :)
  1197. # [11:45] <glandium> !seen jesup
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  1199. # [11:45] <glandium> mmmm i thought killer answered to those
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  1205. # [11:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jduell: backouts pushed, will reopen the tree when the builds successed :) good night
  1206. # [11:50] <jduell> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thanks! Much appreciated
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  1256. # [12:35] <jandem> where can moco employees get visual studio?
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  1263. # [12:38] <jandem> glandium: do you know ^^ maybe?
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  1265. # [12:39] <glandium> jandem: on fs2
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  1267. # [12:40] <jandem> glandium: do you know which folder maybe? i found that one but no VS
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  1269. # [12:40] <glandium> jandem: ITsomething ... Microsoft ...
  1270. # [12:40] * jandem looks
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  1274. # [12:42] <jandem> glandium: oh bleh i was in /public/
  1275. # [12:42] <jandem> glandium: thanks
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  1302. # [13:01] <mihaelav_lunch> hi
  1303. # [13:01] <mihaelav_lunch> I'm opening a new window from the new window menu option. is there a way to check that the windows indeed opened and to move control to it?
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  1311. # [13:09] <Manuela> hi guys! does anybody know what steps should I follow (and what do I need to install) in order to start a nightly debug build from the console, on Windows?
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  1322. # [13:18] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> in my own debug builds i start it on windows from the obj-dir/dist/bin with firefox.exe from the commandline
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  1331. # [13:21] <Manuela> Tomcat|sheriffduty: could you please be more specific? if I try to position myself to obj-dir/dist/bin in the cmd.exe window, I get this message: The system cannot find the path specified.
  1332. # [13:22] <Manuela> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I am on a Win 7 64-bit machine
  1333. # [13:22] <Manuela> Tomcat|sheriffduty: and I'm trying to reproduce https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920397
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  1335. # [13:22] <Manuela> Tomcat|sheriffduty: So I've installed the nightly debug build from 25 Sept
  1336. # [13:23] <edmorley> Is anyone else experiencing lots of IRC disconnects?
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  1338. # [13:23] <jwatt> lol
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  1341. # [13:23] <jwatt> edmorley: you seem to be the only person in #developers
  1342. # [13:24] <edmorley> hmm
  1343. # [13:24] <edmorley> it's annoying, whatever it is
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  1358. # [13:32] <mihaelav_lunch> edmorley: I also had irc disconnect issues today
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  1363. # [13:34] <edmorley> mihaelav_lunch: ty
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  1386. # [13:52] <jesup> glandium: you rang?
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  1389. # [13:52] <glandium> jesup: yes!
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  1391. # [13:53] <glandium> jesup: i wanted to know how (mozilla-specific) gyp file changes were handled
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  1396. # [13:54] <glandium> jesup: i have a patch that requires those changes: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3754935
  1397. # [13:55] <jesup> Thus far, we've been accumulating them in the tree, and when I import a new webrtc.org drop (media/webrtc/trunk/webrtc), I merge forward all changes. On the list of things to do is to package them up (in a few changesets - one mozilla-specific stuff, one general we-want-this-changed) and try to push them upstream so I can stop merging
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  1399. # [13:55] <glandium> jesup: also, how would you feel about moving gyp (not gyp files, gyp itself) out of the scope of webrtc updates?
  1400. # [13:56] <jesup> glandium: r+ to that with the now-empty gyp conditional removed
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  1402. # [13:56] <jesup> We aren't updating gyp when we import
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  1404. # [13:56] <glandium> jesup: so i can just move it, then
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  1406. # [13:57] <jesup> we haven't done that in quite a while, and likely won't unless there's a gyp bug we need to fix or new feature they start using.
  1407. # [13:57] <glandium> jesup: (there is no now-empty conditional)
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  1409. # [13:58] <glandium> jesup: (there is a gyp bug i need to fix :-p which is why i was worrying about future webrtc updates)
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  1432. # [14:08] <jesup> sorry, diffs in pastebin are harder to read than in bugzilla, you're right
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  1435. # [14:09] <jesup> Feel free to fix gyp, is it a fix, or is it a mod to add something for us?
  1436. # [14:09] <jesup> Changes to gyp likely should r? to ted
  1437. # [14:10] <@ted> i don't think we care about gyp itself relative to webrtc
  1438. # [14:10] <@ted> except in that we just imported webrtc wholesale
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  1445. # [14:19] <jesup> Looking at the hg logs for gyp, outside of mozmake, we haven't made any mods since the last time we imported gyp (and rolled in the changes that ted (largely) did earlier to get mozmake/gtest/etc up and working)
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  1447. # [14:20] <jesup> Last import was Feb, and we've had no reason to import again (though we could)
  1448. # [14:21] <gaston> gyp -> here be dragons
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  1450. # [14:22] <jesup> That's why I've seen no reason to distrub them :-)
  1451. # [14:22] <jesup> disturb even
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  1454. # [14:23] <jesup> glandium: So I'd say land it, it will get merged with all the other changes we've made to it to support mozmake, relative dirs/etc
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  1456. # [14:24] <jesup> glandium: to see all the changes, hg diff -r 174d772e83f4 media/webrtc/trunk/tools/gyp
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  1469. # [14:36] <catlee> ted: any chances that changing the update channel would affect valgrind builds?
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  1504. # [14:58] <jesup> glandium: as we're using std::map, I assume we can use std::unordered_map?
  1505. # [14:59] <jesup> per suggestion from smaug
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  1509. # [15:01] <darkowlzz> I am trying to perform scrolling in all the windows, and here is the code https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3755195 Could anyone tell me what is wrong with it that it's not working? newbie to xpcom interfaces 0:)
  1510. # [15:01] <glandium> jesup: see thread on dev-platform
  1511. # [15:01] <jesup> k
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  1525. # [15:07] <@ted> catlee: i'm not sure, that sounds weird
  1526. # [15:07] <@ted> i guess it's possible
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  1537. # [15:12] <bhearsum|buildduty> there's a surprising amount of stuff dependent on update channel these days, isn't there?
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  1539. # [15:12] <bhearsum|buildduty> https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=MOZ_UPDATE_CHANNEL
  1540. # [15:12] <bhearsum|buildduty> i really hate that =\
  1541. # [15:13] <bhearsum|buildduty> implicit--
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  1544. # [15:13] <bhearsum|buildduty> we have tests affected by it too?!
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  1550. # [15:15] <Archaeopteryx> are there checksums for the bundles in http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/bundles/?C=M;O=D available? i got a traceback twice while unbundling mozilla-aurora
  1551. # [15:16] <bhearsum|buildduty> Archaeopteryx: not afaik
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  1553. # [15:18] <Archaeopteryx> thanks. RyanVM: got the following traceback while importing mozilla-aurora using MozillaBuild 1.9.0pre: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3755252 the bundle file size is locally 10 MB smaller than mozilla-central (like on the server), so download doesn't seem to have stopped prematurely
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  1561. # [15:20] <RyanVM> Archaeopteryx: seems unlikely to be an hg issue?
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  1564. # [15:20] <Archaeopteryx> ok, let me download it again. against what should i file a bug if the issue happens again?
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  1569. # [15:21] <RyanVM> Archaeopteryx: good question - checksums would be nice :(
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  1571. # [15:22] <Archaeopteryx> if anybody has the aurora.hg, the md5 is E7A221D5E163BEA3377A48FD248361C1 here
  1572. # [15:22] <bhearsum|buildduty> one sec, i can run md5 on ftp
  1573. # [15:22] <Archaeopteryx> thank you
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  1576. # [15:23] <RyanVM> Archaeopteryx: i'll try unbundling it too
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  1581. # [15:24] <bhearsum|buildduty> doo dee doo, ftp is slow
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  1583. # [15:25] <bhearsum|buildduty> Archaeopteryx: file size is 600435432, in the meantime
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  1585. # [15:25] <Archaeopteryx> the ftp returns 600 435 432 bytes as file size, i have 600433972 strange. thank you
  1586. # [15:25] <bhearsum|buildduty> 94f71668ae5b8e89e8d379a2bf6083fb mozilla-aurora.hg
  1587. # [15:26] <bbouvier> i kinda remember there was something related to async rendering that landed recently, does somebody remember the bug number?
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  1601. # [15:28] <Archaeopteryx> bbouvier: bug 924403? http://featherweightmusings.blogspot.de/2013/11/no-more-main-thread-opengl-in-firefox.html
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  1630. # [15:38] <bbouvier> Archaeopteryx: thanks, looks like the one i was looking for
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  1635. # [15:40] <RyanVM> Archaeopteryx: I got 94F71668AE5B8E89E8D379A2BF6083FB when I downloaded the bundle too
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  1638. # [15:41] <Archaeopteryx> thanks guys. dl for the next attempt
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  1645. # [15:42] <RyanVM> jwatt: is your inbound push "OMG urgent merge to m-c ASAP!" ?
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  1649. # [15:45] <jwatt> RyanVM: I'd like it merged as soon as posible
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  1651. # [15:45] <jwatt> not sure if it's qualifies as "OMG urgent"
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  1654. # [15:45] <RyanVM> jwatt: i mean, I probably would have merged it this afternoon anyway (ET)
  1655. # [15:45] <RyanVM> is that not soon enough?
  1656. # [15:46] <jwatt> RyanVM: basically I'm looking for approval for aurora before the first aurora 28 build happens
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  1658. # [15:47] <RyanVM> jwatt: oh, plenty of time then
  1659. # [15:47] <RyanVM> those won't go out until Friday
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  1661. # [15:47] <jwatt> RyanVM: and I'd like to not miss a Nightly if possible too
  1662. # [15:47] <RyanVM> jwatt: FWIW, it's highly-likely to stick on inbound at this point, so I don't think you need to wait for m-c to request approval
  1663. # [15:47] <RyanVM> you won't
  1664. # [15:47] <RyanVM> anything I merge today will make tomorrow's nightly
  1665. # [15:48] <jwatt> ok
  1666. # [15:48] <jwatt> thanks
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  1710. # [16:19] <glandium> glob|away: splinter doesn't like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=948301&attachment=8345537
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  1720. # [16:24] <RyanVM> padenot: inbound orange
  1721. # [16:25] <padenot> RyanVM: hah
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  1724. # [16:25] <padenot> I'll back myself out, this is not obvious
  1725. # [16:26] <RyanVM> thanks
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  1747. # [16:38] <RyanVM> padenot: maybe the ASAN failures shed some light?
  1748. # [16:38] <RyanVM> ABORT: Divide by zero: file /builds/slave/m-in-l64-asan-0000000000000000/build/toolkit/xre/nsSigHandlers.cpp, line 141
  1749. # [16:38] <padenot> RyanVM: I've got a fix already, it was just me being stupid :-)
  1750. # [16:38] <padenot> RyanVM: thanks anyways
  1751. # [16:38] <RyanVM> ok then :P
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  1800. # [17:07] <kats> come back firebot
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  1858. # [17:29] <gfritzsche> what is the lowest gcc version we support? still 4.4?
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  1860. # [17:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> padenot: I have to say, it's pretty amazing how many test suites depend on media these days
  1861. # [17:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: AFAIK, that's correct
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  1863. # [17:30] <gfritzsche> ok, damn :(
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  1867. # [17:30] <jcranmer|away> blame b2g
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  1872. # [17:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: what jcranmer said
  1873. # [17:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> apparently we're unable to use a newer version there
  1874. # [17:31] <jcranmer|away> to my undying ire
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  1876. # [17:31] <gfritzsche> hm, too bad
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  1878. # [17:32] <jcranmer> gcc 4.6 and MSVC 2012 are much better min requirements
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  1880. # [17:32] <padenot> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yep, and my patches touch the lower layers, so if I break something, everything breaks
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  1887. # [17:35] <sicking> vingtetun:
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  1889. # [17:35] <sicking> vingtetun: your room_
  1890. # [17:35] <sicking> _
  1891. # [17:35] <sicking> ?
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  1904. # [17:43] <vingtetun> sicking: i kidnapping a tablet to vydio and i'm here
  1905. # [17:43] <sicking> in your room?
  1906. # [17:44] <sicking> vingtetun: i'm there, but you're not
  1907. # [17:44] <sicking> vingtetun: either of us are in the wrong place :)
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  1909. # [17:44] <Rik> sicking: he is not on vidyo yet
  1910. # [17:44] <sicking> ah, thanks
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  1923. # [17:51] <@bz> How do I get a minidump from a crash-stats report?
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  1926. # [17:52] <@bz> (the answer might just be "you don't have the bits for that")
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  1932. # [17:53] <edmorley> KaiRo: ^
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  1940. # [17:55] <KaiRo> bz: did you log into crash-stats?
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  1950. # [17:57] <KaiRo> bz: we recently switched auth systems, I know some people who did have the LDAP bit were dropped for now as they didn't log in with Persona yet and therefore the system doesn't know about them - I think you're on that list. If you have logged in once now, I can add you to the group with those privs again
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  1976. # [18:05] <@bz> Where does minidump-stackwalk live?
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  1979. # [18:05] <@bz> Oh, minidump_stackwalk
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  1981. # [18:06] <@bz> Hm
  1982. # [18:06] <@bz> I need to --enable-crashreporter ?
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  1986. # [18:07] <@bz> no...
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  1988. # [18:08] <@bz> ok
  1989. # [18:09] <@bz> how do I get my hands on minidump_stackwalk?
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  1992. # [18:09] <@bz> aha
  1993. # [18:09] <@bz> http://hg.mozilla.org/build/tools/file/tip/breakpad/
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  2022. # [18:19] <@ted> bleh, new flash seems really hangy on youtube
  2023. # [18:19] <@ted> (on windows)
  2024. # [18:19] <@ted> sure wish youtube would stop using flash
  2025. # [18:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: that last bug 941587 star was from before your push
  2026. # [18:22] <@smaug> RyanVM|sheriffduty: k
  2027. # [18:22] <@bz> ted: in this case the guy who knows how to run the test doesn't know how to attach a debugger
  2028. # [18:23] <@bz> ted: but yes, otherwise that would be an excellent plan.
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  2031. # [18:23] <@ted> gotcha
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  2036. # [18:25] <@bz> ted: Yes the "the" in the who knows how to run the test is a problem; it's being addressed.
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  2056. # [18:33] <bholley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I have a change I'd like to make to the job visibility policy. How do I go about proposing it?
  2057. # [18:33] <robcee> heyo. does anyone have a working .mozconfig for windows with visual studio 2013?
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  2060. # [18:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bholley: probably best would be sending an email to sheriffs@mozilla.org
  2061. # [18:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> robcee: what's the problem?
  2062. # [18:34] <bholley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: roger
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  2067. # [18:35] <robcee> build failure in NSS, complaining that I need to pass -fs (?) flag to the compiler
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  2069. # [18:35] <robcee> I've set export CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS to have -fs but it doesn't seem to fix the issue
  2070. # [18:35] <robcee> just thought someone might've already dealt with this and have a working config file
  2071. # [18:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> robcee: are you using the updated msvc batch files from 1.9.0 beta?
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  2074. # [18:36] <robcee> um, no, I cooked up an msvc-12.bat from the included ones
  2075. # [18:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> robcee: ah
  2076. # [18:36] <robcee> directories are fine
  2077. # [18:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yeah, there was some bustages
  2078. # [18:36] <robcee> but if there's a newer mozilla-build I can grab that
  2079. # [18:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> robcee: there's a link to it in dev-platform
  2080. # [18:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> otherwise
  2081. # [18:37] <robcee> ok
  2082. # [18:37] <robcee> great thanks!
  2083. # [18:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-build/file/tip
  2084. # [18:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> try grabbing the start-shell-msvc2013.bat from there
  2085. # [18:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and see if that works
  2086. # [18:37] <robcee> will do!
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  2088. # [18:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> robcee: and let me know if it does :P
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  2090. # [18:38] <robcee> ok
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  2099. # [18:45] <robcee> RyanVM|sheriffduty: the error I was getting appears to be documented in bug 915973
  2100. # [18:45] <robcee> marked fixed
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  2102. # [18:46] <robcee> wasn't sure if I should reopen that or not
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  2104. # [18:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> robcee: huh
  2105. # [18:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> robcee: is this a recent bustage?
  2106. # [18:46] <@smaug> tn: ping
  2107. # [18:46] <bholley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: that list is moderated :-(
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  2111. # [18:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bholley: anything from mozilla.com should be whitelisted
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  2113. # [18:47] <bholley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok, I'll resend
  2114. # [18:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bholley: don't worry abou tit
  2115. # [18:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> who do you think the mods are? :)
  2116. # [18:47] <bholley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I just canceled the post. resending
  2117. # [18:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> oh, ok
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  2119. # [18:48] <robcee> RyanVM|sheriffduty: well recent to me. Just setting up a new build box and encountered it while running my first build on it.
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  2123. # [18:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> robcee: I assume the newer start-msvc file didn't help then?
  2124. # [18:48] <robcee> dunno yet, just clobbering and starting over with it
  2125. # [18:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> k
  2126. # [18:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> if it still reproduces, I would probably clone the original bug
  2127. # [18:49] <robcee> yeah, will do
  2128. # [18:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and mention that you're using the msvc2013 start files from mozillabuild tip
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  2130. # [18:50] <robcee> wonder if _CC_SUITE isn't set correctly here? Maybe because of my hand-rolled start-msvc...
  2131. # [18:50] <robcee> anyway, I'll keep digging.
  2132. # [18:50] <robcee> thanks!
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  2138. # [18:54] <bholley> jgriffin: do you know if the b2g desktop builds that gaia-ui tests use have IPC enabled or disabled?
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  2141. # [18:54] <jgriffin> bholley: I believe they have IPC enabled
  2142. # [18:54] <bholley> jgriffin: roger. thans
  2143. # [18:54] <bholley> *thanks
  2144. # [18:54] <jgriffin> fabrice: would know for sure
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  2147. # [18:55] <fabrice> bholley: no OOP in b2g desktop for now
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  2149. # [18:55] <jgriffin> ah, I was wrong :)
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  2151. # [18:55] <bholley> fabrice: ok
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  2161. # [18:56] <jwalker> glandium: could you give me a bit of help with a makefile problem?
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  2164. # [18:56] <jorendorff> Is Gecko's emoji rendering support the same on all platforms?
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  2167. # [18:57] <bholley> jorendorff: we have emoji rendering?
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  2169. # [18:57] <jorendorff> that's what i'm asking
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  2172. # [18:58] <bholley> jorendorff: you might want to ask in #gfx
  2173. # [18:58] <jorendorff> little pictures do appear, if you view unicode text that contains emoji characters
  2174. # [18:58] <jfkthame> it depends on font availability
  2175. # [18:58] <jorendorff> ah
  2176. # [18:58] <jfkthame> (hence it's not the same across platforms)
  2177. # [18:59] <jorendorff> lame
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  2183. # [18:59] <jorendorff> So what component would I file the bug in, if I wanted us to ship an open emoji font?
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  2185. # [18:59] <robcee> RyanVM|sheriffduty: didn't work :/
  2186. # [18:59] <jorendorff> because obviously this is the most important thing for me to be working on right now
  2187. # [19:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> robcee: rats
  2188. # [19:00] <robcee> robcee.pastebin.mozilla.org/3756295
  2189. # [19:00] <robcee> quite
  2190. # [19:00] <jfkthame> ship as part of what product - gecko platform? firefox? thunderbird? fxos?
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  2198. # [19:02] <jorendorff> jfkthame: Is that really a pre-filing question
  2199. # [19:02] <jfkthame> well, the answer would presumably determine where to file the bug :)
  2200. # [19:02] <jorendorff> jfkthame: Well, let's say Gecko for starters.
  2201. # [19:02] <jfkthame> note that there are already a few "support emoji" bugs on file
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  2203. # [19:03] <bholley> jorendorff: why are you interested, OOC?
  2204. # [19:03] <jfkthame> though i don't think there's one about bundling a font into gecko itself
  2205. # [19:03] <jfkthame> (personally, i don't think we should do that - i think it'd be a per-product decision)
  2206. # [19:03] <jorendorff> bholley: It occurs to me that supporting regional indicator symbols for every country code is the sort of thing we ought to do https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_Indicator_Symbol
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  2208. # [19:04] <jorendorff> jfkthame: Oh. Why not include it in Gecko?
  2209. # [19:04] <jfkthame> size
  2210. # [19:04] <jfkthame> have you looked at the size of the Apple Color Emoji.ttf font file lately?
  2211. # [19:04] <bholley> jfkthame: how big, OOC?
  2212. # [19:05] <jfkthame> just a sec...
  2213. # [19:05] <jorendorff> Never, in fact. Wait, though, are you saying Firefox OS doesn't have Emoji fonts in it?
  2214. # [19:05] <jorendorff> That would be strange.
  2215. # [19:05] <bholley> jorendorff: presumably it does. It would just be in Gonk
  2216. # [19:05] <jfkthame> bholley, -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 35944652 9 Jul 2012 /System/Library/Fonts/Apple Color Emoji.ttf
  2217. # [19:05] <bholley> jorendorff: a lot of graphics-y stuff lives in the OS. It's just a fact of life
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  2219. # [19:05] <jorendorff> thirty five meeeeelion
  2220. # [19:06] <decoder> jorendorff: see pm :)
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  2222. # [19:06] <jfkthame> of course, if we're happy with simple black-and-white glyphs, it could be much smaller - but would we be?
  2223. # [19:06] <@ted> that's a lot of bytes
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  2227. # [19:07] <tn> smaug: pong
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  2232. # [19:08] <robcee> RyanVM|sheriffduty: you don't have a beta tag in the mozilla-build hg repo do you?
  2233. # [19:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> no
  2234. # [19:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> we only tag the releases
  2235. # [19:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so "tip" :P
  2236. # [19:09] <robcee> tip it is!
  2237. # [19:09] <robcee> (just the tip)
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  2240. # [19:10] <@smaug> tn: just about review for that test
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  2242. # [19:11] <@smaug> (trying to get those random failures fixed asap so that I can land remove-perf-mode)
  2243. # [19:11] <tn> smaug: i'm a little curious why timing affects this. interested to know what the regions of the layers actually looks like when it passes and fails.
  2244. # [19:11] <@smaug> hmm
  2245. # [19:12] <@smaug> I guess I could push some debug code to try
  2246. # [19:12] * @smaug doesn't have windows dev env
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  2248. # [19:12] <@smaug> and this is windows only failure
  2249. # [19:13] <tn> smaug: MOZ_DUMP_PAINT_LIST should work, but its quite noisey, might need to reduce the number of tests run
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  2252. # [19:14] <@smaug> tn: maximize() relies on OS level events
  2253. # [19:14] <@smaug> so clearly this whole setup is very error prone to changes to event loop
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  2259. # [19:16] <@smaug> tn: do you know how to set MOZ_DUMP_PAINT_LIST env variable for try?
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  2265. # [19:17] <jimm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: know of any recent webrtc landings?
  2266. # [19:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jimm: I think there have been some, but I don't recall specifics
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  2272. # [19:21] <tn> smaug: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/thebes/gfxUtils.cpp#865
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  2274. # [19:21] <tn> smaug: i think i see why it fails. it fails on winxp only in non-maximized state because of the resizer. so it's probably failing because the resizer is still there and the maximize hasn't taken effect
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  2276. # [19:22] <@smaug> tn: ok, so the patch is perfect :)
  2277. # [19:22] <tn> smaug: can you make the test listen for a resize event after the maximize? and only proceed after you get one?
  2278. # [19:22] <@smaug> hmm
  2279. # [19:22] <@smaug> does that matter
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  2281. # [19:23] <@smaug> I mean isn't the test testing that leafLayersPartitionWindow() returns true at some point
  2282. # [19:23] <@smaug> after maximize
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  2285. # [19:24] <tn> smaug: what if it returns true before maximise has done anything? then we aren't testing the maximized case at all
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  2287. # [19:24] <@smaug> well then it is broken already now
  2288. # [19:24] <@smaug> I'm just trying to fix the random failure case ;)
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  2293. # [19:25] <tn> smaug: hence the existing intermittent failure bug is already open on it :)
  2294. # [19:25] * @smaug has so many random failures to fix that he is trying to find the easiest fix
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  2296. # [19:26] <@smaug> but ok, I could push to try a patch where if (win.mozPaintCount == initialCount || win.isMozAfterPaintPending) { -> if (win.mozPaintCount == initialCount || win.isMozAfterPaintPending || !resizeEventHappened) {
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  2304. # [19:27] <tn> smaug: i *think* we want to wait for a resize event and then a paint? but the order could be switched
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  2306. # [19:28] <tn> smaug: so we want a resize event and a paint event after we call maximized
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  2314. # [19:30] <tn> smaug: sorry to make this harder, i want to see that favour perf stuff fixed too
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  2327. # [19:34] <@smaug> tn: np. I'm just somewhat bored of fixing these random failures
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  2330. # [19:35] <@smaug> (so far every one of them has been a bug in the test)
  2331. # [19:35] <@gavin> smaug: pong
  2332. # [19:35] <tn> smaug: yeah, not surprising unfortunately
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  2339. # [19:36] <@smaug> gavin: ping about Bug 942229. What should be used if not BrowserChromeTests.runWhenReady ?
  2340. # [19:37] <@gavin> smaug: what do you think runWhenReady actually does?
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  2342. # [19:37] <@gavin> i.e. what do you want to wait for, actually?
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  2346. # [19:38] <@smaug> gavin: I want something to call my callback when the UI has been initialized properly
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  2348. # [19:38] <@gavin> which parts of the UI?
  2349. # [19:38] <@smaug> well, I guess all of it. When it is "stable"
  2350. # [19:39] <@gavin> you probably want either just a load event+executeSoon, or whenDelayedStartupFinished
  2351. # [19:39] <@gavin> the second one is later
  2352. # [19:39] <@smaug> "load" event isn't enough because we have that delayed initialization stuff
  2353. # [19:39] <nbp> An unagi based out of inbound is constantly rebooting lately.
  2354. # [19:39] <@smaug> why executeSoon?
  2355. # [19:39] <@gavin> smaug: which part of the delayed initialization stuff does your test depend on?
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  2357. # [19:39] <@smaug> IIRC some private browsing
  2358. # [19:39] <@gavin> smaug: executeSoon to let the browser window load event handler run first
  2359. # [19:40] <nbp> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ^ at least before the merge.
  2360. # [19:40] <@smaug> I think I used BrowserChromeTests.runWhenReady last summer when fixing bunch of private browsing tests
  2361. # [19:40] <@gavin> smaug: if you need to wait for delayedStartup, use whenDelayedStartupFinished
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  2364. # [19:40] <@smaug> is whenDelayedStartupFinished a notification?
  2365. # [19:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nbp: ?
  2366. # [19:40] <@gavin> it's a function that's in a bunch of head.js files
  2367. # [19:40] <@smaug> or some function in browser.js?
  2368. # [19:40] <@smaug> hmm
  2369. # [19:40] <@gavin> copy it to yours as needed
  2370. # [19:40] <@smaug> ok, so I need to define it myself
  2371. # [19:40] <nbp> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I am trying to bisect what cause an Unagi to constantly reboot when it is loading the home screen.
  2372. # [19:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nbp: not sure I'm going to be of much help
  2373. # [19:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nbp: ask in #b2g?
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  2376. # [19:42] <@smaug> gavin: ok, thanks
  2377. # [19:42] * @smaug thinks whenDelayedStartupFinished should be somewhere in browser.js
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  2379. # [19:43] <@gavin> smaug: I would support that
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  2384. # [19:45] <nbp> RyanVM|sheriffduty: currently this seems to be caused by a patch after 47b81e1366bc.
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  2396. # [19:50] <pcwalton> is there a page (or a quick summary) describing how memory management works for nsStyleStructs? who controls the lifetimes, etc
  2397. # [19:50] <pcwalton> the comments say "managed by the presshell arena" but I don't know what that means exactly :)
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  2401. # [19:54] <jesup> jimm: any specific question/concern? There were some before uplift. Not much major, and one set (B2G changes) got backed out
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  2403. # [19:54] <serge> jorendorff: in my extension (it is also ok that this be shipped standalone rather than on top of firefox), the user gives an algorithm to run on a series of (arbitrary) web pages
  2404. # [19:54] <jimm> jesup: getting a build error with vs2012 on latest mc tip
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  2407. # [19:54] <jesup> jimm: pastebin?
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  2409. # [19:55] <jorendorff> serge: ok.
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  2413. # [19:55] <jimm> jesup: scrolled off console, I reverted to an earlier changeset to try and find a regression range. will let you know.
  2414. # [19:55] <jesup> I know jduell's e10s DNS changes caused some compiler errors and were backed out. Don't know if they made it to inbound
  2415. # [19:55] <serge> jorendorff: they extract data from various pages, and we'd like to show that data in real time. Many pages execute arbitrary javascript when an input action happens on the page.
  2416. # [19:55] <jesup> bug 945066 is jduell's
  2417. # [19:55] <jimm> jesup: looks like a checkout from yesterday morning is going to go through
  2418. # [19:55] <jduell> jesup: looks like we've got a fix--expect a b2g-inbound landing by end of day
  2419. # [19:56] <jesup> 945066 was last night IIRC; not sure about when the backout was
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  2421. # [19:56] <jduell> jesup: actually I'll just land them now, they look very promising and we can always backout
  2422. # [19:56] <jduell> whee!
  2423. # [19:56] <serge> jorendorff: now in order to show real-time results as they change their algorithm, we cannot "reload" a page since the request takes far too long, and there may be many pages
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  2427. # [19:57] <jorendorff> serge: but you want behavior "as though" they all reloaded from scratch, right?
  2428. # [19:58] <serge> jorendorff: yes, reloaded from scratch and all operations up to the cahnge already performed (note that some operations are not idempotent, so we can't just click a button twice to get to the same point)
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  2433. # [19:59] <serge> jorendorff: the only solution that we've come up with (and this is because of arbitrary non-idempotent javascript that many web pages have), is to "fork" the browser at each interaction and whenever something changes, we run just from the last fork
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  2436. # [20:00] <jesup> ted: jorendorff etc - one wonders if there's a better compression scheme for emojii... One imagines there's more than a bit of duplication of elements within them (deltas from bases, combining elements, etc). One huge JPEG you clip from! :-)
  2437. # [20:00] <@ted> heh
  2438. # [20:00] <jorendorff> serge: forking is going to be super problematic
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  2442. # [20:01] <@ted> jesup: i bet current emoji fonts are really dumb and just a bitmap-per-glyph
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  2444. # [20:01] <jesup> ted++
  2445. # [20:01] <jorendorff> serge: because when you resume a forked process after having written some things to disk, you can have in-process memory and kernel file descriptor state that's out of sync with disk state
  2446. # [20:01] <jesup> The JPEG idea isn't all that silly, really
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  2449. # [20:02] <qDot> Man, these unified builds are hell on memory.
  2450. # [20:02] <qDot> -j16 is no longer an option on my 8gb of ram machine >.>
  2451. # [20:02] <@ted> buy moar ram
  2452. # [20:02] <jesup> qDot: do you really have 16 execution units?
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  2455. # [20:03] <jesup> because on most machines, -j<more-than-execution-units> has little or no (or negative) win
  2456. # [20:03] <jesup> Only time going a little past exec units wins is if you have slow IO IIRC
  2457. # [20:04] <jesup> and then not much (2?)
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  2459. # [20:04] <qDot> jesup: Eh, was doing the "treat hyperthread like core, 2x cores to account for IO" calculation. But yeah it probably means nothing. Just what I set it at years ago until, well, today. :)
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  2461. # [20:04] <jesup> You can treat hyperthreads as cores, but I'd stop there, or at most add 2
  2462. # [20:05] <serge> jorendorff: i agree it will be problematic, but i don't see another way to do it. Can you explain your second sentence, what needs to be written to disk?
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  2470. # [20:06] <qDot> jesup: Yeah, knocked it back to 10. PRobably wasn't winning anything at 16, just wasnt' used it to falling to swap either. Need to just update the whole damn machine. Haswell and all that.
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  2474. # [20:06] <jorendorff> serge: This is a general thing about forking any long-lived stateful process.
  2475. # [20:06] <jorendorff> serge: Suppose you're forking a SQL database. The original process runs for a while; then you want to kill it and run the fork.
  2476. # [20:07] <jesup> Haswells do work well for Mozilla I hear. So do slightly older Xeons, though not as well. And SSD nowadays is a big win on first-access even with a ton of ram
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  2480. # [20:07] <jorendorff> serge: The fork would have tons of stuff cached in memory that's no longer correct; it would have information about ongoing transactions in memory that have since been committed or rolled back
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  2482. # [20:07] <jorendorff> serge: its file descriptor that points to the transaction log would have the wrong offset
  2483. # [20:07] <jorendorff> and so on
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  2485. # [20:07] <jorendorff> serge: socket connection state would be wrong too
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  2487. # [20:08] <jorendorff> serge: firefox is also a complex, long-lived stateful process. it contains a sql database, among other things
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  2490. # [20:08] <jorendorff> serge: I recommend using a caching proxy and making it ignore all the HTTP cacheability headers and cache everything, that will also have some problems, but less than forking or trying to clone a <browser>
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  2496. # [20:09] <jorendorff> serge: or maybe there's a pref to make Firefox's built-in HTTP cache behave that way (though ... hopefully not, it's a crazy thing to want to do ;-)
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  2503. # [20:11] <pcwalton> (never mind, figured it out: nsStyleContexts are ref counted. easy.)
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  2506. # [20:13] <jorendorff> Generally speaking, when you clone something, look for trouble at the boundary between what is cloned and what isn't.
  2507. # [20:13] <jorendorff> (and everything in that sentence after the word "trouble" is strictly optional)
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  2509. # [20:13] <serge> jorendorff: Ah, I see. By "fork" I meant the browser element, not firefox itself (that's why the quotes). I think just a way to set the state of the javascript in the new element is enough for what we want to do, and it's single threaded, so we can pick a "gap" in the execution (e.g. between a setTimeout) to do that in so we don't even need the execution pointer.
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  2514. # [20:15] <jorendorff> serge: oh, i see
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  2517. # [20:17] <jorendorff> serge: I think that's still impossible, because there is no way to serialize a JS heap. People occasionally ask for it, but there are a couple really hard problems with doing it...
  2518. # [20:17] <serge> Can you go into a bit more detail?
  2519. # [20:18] <jorendorff> serge: Currently there is no code in the JS engine for serializing a closure, for example. The closed-on variables are lost if you just dump the source code.
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  2522. # [20:19] <jorendorff> serge: There's code for serializing and deserializing object graphs (js/src/jsclone.cpp), but it doesn't support all object types. Only the ones that are defined in the HTML standard about "structured cloning".
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  2530. # [20:20] <jorendorff> serge: I don't even know how many object types there are, and I'm the JS engine module owner. There are oodles defined within the JS engine alone, hundreds defined in the DOM
  2531. # [20:20] <jorendorff> beyond that I couldn't even speculate
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  2533. # [20:22] <KWierso> RyanVM|sheriffduty: whoa
  2534. # [20:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> KWierso: i'm hoping it's a clobber issue
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  2536. # [20:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> already retriggered the build under the hope
  2537. # [20:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> oh, nvm
  2538. # [20:22] <jorendorff> serge: iframes are interesting too. each iframe has back/forward state; I don't think there's any code in Gecko for serializing/deserializing that
  2539. # [20:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> KWierso: was only a couple failures on the merge push last time I looked :P
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  2541. # [20:23] <jorendorff> serge: we're talking about years of effort, at least. :-\
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  2550. # [20:27] <serge> jorendorff: Hmm, for closures, can the variables not just be pulled from the heap? And for all the different object types, wouldn't the serialization be uniform? If we have the AST of the source and the state of memory, it doesn't really matter what the types are, we just copy memory (and do some special stuff for pointers by looking at the AST).
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  2552. # [20:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bjacob: ping
  2553. # [20:29] <jesup> kinetik: ping (once you're in)
  2554. # [20:29] <jorendorff> serge: you could write serialization code for closures. i agree that's not the hard part
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  2558. # [20:31] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: pong
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  2560. # [20:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bjacob: inbound isn't liking your push
  2561. # [20:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> OSX is orange and linux gtest is crashing
  2562. # [20:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bjacob: I see some Windows Try runs in the bug
  2563. # [20:32] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: i have green try pushes with these patches: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=6a8c86753f79
  2564. # [20:32] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ^
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  2567. # [20:33] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: (comment 94)
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  2570. # [20:33] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bjacob: I already clobbered and retriggered some of the jobs
  2571. # [20:33] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so we'll see what that does too
  2572. # [20:33] <jorendorff> serge: Dumping the JS heap is hard, but not impossible. The metadata you need to handle pointers properly is not in the AST, but it exists.
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  2574. # [20:34] <jorendorff> serge: The first very hard part is dumping arbitrary JS objects. You will need some code for every kind of JS object that exists. Some of these JS objects contain pointers to C++ objects.
  2575. # [20:35] <jorendorff> serge: Those C++ objects have pointers to other C++ objects, and so on. The full object graph contains many things.
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  2577. # [20:35] <jorendorff> serge: This is the point where the full scope of the problem is not visible to me.
  2578. # [20:35] <jorendorff> serge: I don't know how many types can be referenced, directly or indirectly, from JS objects in a web page.
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  2581. # [20:37] <nbp> bjacob: And with these changes I have a crash during the start-up of the lock-screen application on B2G.
  2582. # [20:37] <jorendorff> serge: the second very hard part is reconstituting all this. The content of an iframe may be its own *heap*, and that's not a trivial sort of thing to serialize/deserialize.
  2583. # [20:37] <jorendorff> serge: In the not-so-distant future, the content of an iframe may be its own *process*.
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  2585. # [20:37] <bjacob> nbp: ah, let me try
  2586. # [20:38] <nbp> bjacob: I am currently compiling bhackett's commit above your, but AWFY is down and all phones are constantly crashing during the start-up
  2587. # [20:38] <jorendorff> serge: The third very hard part is making all this faster than reloading the page from scratch, which ought to be pretty fast if you remove the network component.
  2588. # [20:38] <bjacob> nbp: not sure how that fits with green try push https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=6a8c86753f79
  2589. # [20:38] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: nbp: maybe changed under my feet between when i pushed to try, and when i landed
  2590. # [20:39] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: the crash stacks do look relevant to my patch, so dont hesitate to back me out
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  2595. # [20:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bjacob: will see what some of the clobbers do first
  2596. # [20:41] <serge> jorendorff: ok, I am convinced (for now). I will try the caching idea.
  2597. # [20:41] <serge> jorendorff: thanks so much for your time!
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  2599. # [20:41] <jorendorff> serge: you're welcome
  2600. # [20:41] <h4writer> nbp, with "awfy" you mean the b2g slaves, right?
  2601. # [20:42] <nbp> h4writer: Yes, I've been fighting all days to restore them, due to marionette changes. To finally hit this reboot loop :/
  2602. # [20:42] <h4writer> nbp, okay. Just wanted to be sure you didn't ment awfy as a whole ;)
  2603. # [20:42] <h4writer> *meant
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  2605. # [20:43] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: reproduced some badness locally; I'd say back me out; or do you want me to do it
  2606. # [20:43] <h4writer> nbp, fyi that's a orange commit, so could be the reason for the crashes?
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  2608. # [20:44] <nbp> h4writer: Don't know, they are a few times where tbpl is red and I still have benchmark results :P
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  2611. # [20:44] <billm> seth: ping
  2612. # [20:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bjacob: i will, thanks
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  2614. # [20:45] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: thanks
  2615. # [20:45] <bjacob> also... found my bug
  2616. # [20:45] <h4writer> nbp, that always happen to me. Locally = sunshine, tbpl=rain :(
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  2619. # [20:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bjacob: easy fix?
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  2621. # [20:46] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: will tell you in a few min. Dont mind you backing me out meanwhile
  2622. # [20:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bjacob: I don't mind waiting a few mins
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  2627. # [20:47] <jrmuizel> mconley: http://people.mozilla.org/~jmuizelaar/implementation-tests/interpolate.html
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  2636. # [20:54] <mdas> AaronMT: fixed, had to release 0.21.1 as a hotfix
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  2638. # [20:54] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: just back me out --- i need some more time
  2639. # [20:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bjacob: will do, thanks
  2640. # [20:55] <mdas> the problem was that MANIFEST.in didn't include the requirements.txt file. I guess dave added the line when he pushed 0.20 or something? I'm not sure, but I'll PR to get it in there
  2641. # [20:55] <AaronMT> mdas: cool; quick turnaround; packaging issue?
  2642. # [20:55] <mdas> AaronMT: yup ^
  2643. # [20:55] <@njn> catlee: I see you landed the --vex flag removal and the tip of m-c is green -- but it has the crash. Look for "Unsupported clone() flags:"
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  2646. # [20:56] <AaronMT> mdas: confirmed installed fine now
  2647. # [20:56] <@njn> catlee: i.e. it crashed before it hung :/
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  2650. # [20:57] <@njn> catlee: I have to disappear for ~2 hours
  2651. # [20:57] <philor> how can you not love a suite like that?
  2652. # [20:57] <mdas> AaronMT: thanks
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  2655. # [20:58] <sstangl> does anyone know how I disable building "UnifiedBindings" files, or if that even makes sense?
  2656. # [20:58] <sstangl> --disable-unified-compilation doesn't appear to affect that.
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  2665. # [21:02] <@smaug> ehsan: ^
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  2674. # [21:09] <rnewman> anyone know where firebot has gone?
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  2681. # [21:11] <@ehsan> sstangl: --disable-unified-compilation doesn't affect UnifiedBindings and UnifiedProtocols
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  2694. # [21:15] <gozala> bz: If I understood you correctly yesterday you were suggesting this:
  2695. # [21:15] <gozala> https://gist.github.com/Gozala/7917694
  2696. # [21:15] <gozala> but I still run into the same issues though
  2697. # [21:16] <cpeterson> ehsan: git question: Is git.mozilla.org/releases/gecko.git == mozilla-central and git.mozilla.org/integration/gecko-dev.git == mozilla-inbound?
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  2701. # [21:17] <@ehsan> no
  2702. # [21:17] <@ehsan> cpeterson: you don't want to use gecko.git at all
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  2704. # [21:17] <nbp> bjacob: the backout fixed the reboot loop.
  2705. # [21:17] <jwatt> ehsan: do you know if we have ICU on mobile?
  2706. # [21:17] <@ehsan> cpeterson: gecko-dev has branches for central. inbound, aurora, beta etc
  2707. # [21:18] <mfinkle> jwatt, not yet
  2708. # [21:18] <cpeterson> ehsan: thanks
  2709. # [21:18] <@ehsan> cpeterson: gecko-projects includes branches for our "project branches" such as cedar, etc
  2710. # [21:18] <jwatt> mfinkle: not even the Android version?
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  2713. # [21:18] <@ehsan> jwatt: nowhere
  2714. # [21:18] <mfinkle> jwatt, is there an adnroid version we can link too?
  2715. # [21:18] <@ehsan> neither android nor b2g
  2716. # [21:18] <mfinkle> jwatt, it's not public in the ndk
  2717. # [21:18] <bjacob> nbp: ok
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  2719. # [21:19] <jwatt> mfinkle: so the JS API that uses ICU just doesn't work on mobile/b2g I guess?
  2720. # [21:19] <@ehsan> mfinkle: we probably don't want to link to the system icu even if it exists
  2721. # [21:19] <@ehsan> jwatt: correct
  2722. # [21:19] <mfinkle> jwatt, ICU is building for android, and it adds ~3.5MB to the APK
  2723. # [21:19] <sstangl> ehsan: is there any way to disable UnifiedBindings? I'm trying to track down an increase in the number of static constructors, and they're all in UnifiedBindings files.
  2724. # [21:19] <@ehsan> mfinkle: it's building?! o_O
  2725. # [21:19] <jwatt> mfinkle: you'd know better, but I thought there was system ICU we could link to
  2726. # [21:19] <@ehsan> sstangl: not that I know of, but ask froydnj
  2727. # [21:19] <@ehsan> he wrote that stuff
  2728. # [21:20] <sstangl> froydnj: ^
  2729. # [21:20] <mfinkle> jwatt, ehsan: bug 864843
  2730. # [21:20] <@ehsan> right
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  2732. # [21:20] <@ehsan> so we're *not* building icu for android yet
  2733. # [21:21] <mfinkle> ehsan, only patches that are almost ready
  2734. # [21:21] <jwatt> man
  2735. # [21:21] <jwatt> may have to turn off <input type=number> indefinitely then
  2736. # [21:21] <@ehsan> does that depend on icu?
  2737. # [21:22] <jwatt> unless there's some other simplistic number parsing we can do to support localized user input
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  2741. # [21:23] <jwatt> ehsan: well on a french site a user entering "10,1" will result in unrecognized input and the site will get the value "" from the number control
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  2743. # [21:23] <@ehsan> right
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  2746. # [21:23] <@ehsan> jwatt: as somebody whose native numbering system has been unsupported in almost all software ever written, I can sympathize :)
  2747. # [21:23] <jwatt> I CC'ed you on bug 949074 which is about seeing if we can get some sort of basic localization support without ICU
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  2752. # [21:24] <@ehsan> jwatt: is the comma issue the only issue?
  2753. # [21:25] <@ehsan> i.e., how would you handle ۱۰ for example?
  2754. # [21:25] <jwatt> ehsan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark would indicate that it's more complicated than that
  2755. # [21:25] <@ehsan> erm
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  2757. # [21:25] <@ehsan> I meant, what about the digits?
  2758. # [21:25] <vlad> ehsan: I just tried to wipe that dust off my screen :(
  2759. # [21:26] <jwatt> yes, there are non-Arabic digits to consider too
  2760. # [21:26] <@ehsan> vlad: lol
  2761. # [21:26] <@ehsan> jwatt: ok
  2762. # [21:26] <@ehsan> jwatt: I actually don't know how complicated this whole thing is :/
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  2765. # [21:26] <@ehsan> jwatt: but you are not the only person who wants icu on mobile
  2766. # [21:26] <@ehsan> we have at least one use case for b2g
  2767. # [21:26] <@ehsan> for locale aware sorting in indexed db
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  2775. # [21:28] <@ehsan> hang on
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  2777. # [21:28] <@ehsan> jwatt: this doesn't use icu does it? https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/html/content/src/HTMLInputElement.cpp#1668
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  2779. # [21:28] <jwatt> ehsan: no, but that doesn't support l10n numbers
  2780. # [21:29] <@ehsan> jwatt: I see
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  2782. # [21:29] <@ehsan> jwatt: my best suggestion to you is to read the ICU code for number parsing and see how complicated that is?
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  2784. # [21:29] <@ehsan> they should be handling all numeric systems in the universe
  2785. # [21:30] <@ehsan> jwatt: do other browsers support a fully localized input type=number?
  2786. # [21:30] <jwatt> ehsan: I believe Chrome does
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  2788. # [21:30] * @ehsan tries that theory
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  2790. # [21:31] <@ehsan> hmm
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  2792. # [21:31] <@ehsan> jwatt: should this render something other than a plain text box? http://people.mozilla.org/~eakhgari/number.html
  2793. # [21:32] * @ehsan discovers that he doesn't have chrome installed on his machine!
  2794. # [21:32] <jwatt> ehsan: the spec doesn't allow you to put locale specific numbers in the source
  2795. # [21:32] <@ehsan> oh
  2796. # [21:32] <jwatt> ehsan: only users can type locale specific values in
  2797. # [21:33] <@ehsan> jwatt: try again? http://people.mozilla.org/~eakhgari/number.html
  2798. # [21:33] <NeilAway> bah, given a base of abcd both hg and kdiff3 think that abed and aed are merge conflicts :s
  2799. # [21:33] <@ehsan> (that sounds broken to me!)
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  2801. # [21:33] <jwatt> ehsan: that should work
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  2803. # [21:33] <jwatt> are you using latest m-c/m-i?
  2804. # [21:33] <@ehsan> it doesn't
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  2806. # [21:34] <@ehsan> let me update my nightly
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  2808. # [21:34] <@ehsan> hmm
  2809. # [21:34] <@ehsan> now I'm getting _something_
  2810. # [21:34] <vlad> NeilAway: I think very few things do inline diffs
  2811. # [21:34] <@ehsan> that looks quite broken
  2812. # [21:35] <danieru> question: is m-c "mozilla-central", and m-i "mozilla-incoming"?
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  2814. # [21:35] <jwatt> danieru: mozilla-inbound
  2815. # [21:36] <@ehsan> jwatt: I'll file a bug about that in a sec
  2816. # [21:36] <danieru> thanks jwatt
  2817. # [21:36] <@ehsan> but before then
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  2819. # [21:36] <@ehsan> ۱۰ is not supported in chrome either
  2820. # [21:36] <NeilAway> vlad: sorry, those letters represented separate lines
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  2826. # [21:39] <@smaug> jwatt: is the plan to localize based on UA language or page language
  2827. # [21:39] <@smaug> since I think we should localize number based on page language
  2828. # [21:40] <jwatt> smaug: agreed
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  2860. # [21:52] <@roc> SO MUCH GREEN
  2861. # [21:53] <mattwoodrow> I assume you're looking out the window, because inbound is a mess.
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  2863. # [21:53] <@roc> I'm looking at my try push!
  2864. # [21:54] <@roc> the view out the window is pretty awesome now that you mention it.
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  2866. # [21:55] <@roc> surely the Auckland office has the best views of all Mozilla offices
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  2870. # [21:56] <@roc> I'm feeling particularly satisfied about this green because I started off trying to fix a simple regression and several try pushes with cascading test failures later, I have 20 patches mostly fixing independent bugs
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  2879. # [21:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> roc: i wouldn't doubt that!
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  2882. # [21:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> roc: any ideas on bug 934301?
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  2885. # [22:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> roc: though SF's view isn't half-bad either
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  2888. # [22:00] <bz_away> gozala: ping
  2889. # [22:00] <gozala> bz_away: I’m here
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  2893. # [22:01] <bz> gozala: so what issue are you running into?
  2894. # [22:01] <bz> gozala: the link is denied?
  2895. # [22:01] <gozala> bz: inner frame won’t load
  2896. # [22:01] <bz> ok
  2897. # [22:01] <gozala> bz: https://gist.github.com/Gozala/7917694
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  2900. # [22:01] <bz> yes, I just read that
  2901. # [22:02] <gozala> bz: Security Error: Content at about:srcdoc may not load or link to resource:///chrome/browser/content/browser/aboutRobots.xhtml.
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  2903. # [22:02] <bz> So the subframe is a content-type iframe
  2904. # [22:02] <bz> right?
  2905. # [22:02] <bz> So it won't inherit a system principal automatically
  2906. # [22:02] <gozala> bz: yes I would like it to be
  2907. # [22:02] <bz> Becaues that's a security failure
  2908. # [22:02] <bz> So in particular...
  2909. # [22:02] * bz looks it up
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  2911. # [22:03] <gozala> bz: so right now I just created another resource document that I load instead
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  2913. # [22:03] <bz> instead of the srcdoc thing?
  2914. # [22:03] <bz> That seems reasonable
  2915. # [22:03] <gozala> bz: like https://github.com/Gozala/addon-sdk/blob/bug/toolbar%40787390/lib/sdk/ui/frame/view.html
  2916. # [22:04] <gozala> bz: but I would rather use something like srcdoc
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  2918. # [22:04] <gozala> as I need to communicate desired url to be loaded into it
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  2923. # [22:05] <bz> So this confuses me
  2924. # [22:05] <bz> one sec
  2925. # [22:05] * bz checks something
  2926. # [22:05] <gozala> bz: so I guess what I need is to tell that mozframe that it’s origin is resource
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  2933. # [22:07] <@khuey> ehsan: so is there any reason not to just blow away my git clone and reclone from releng's thing?
  2934. # [22:08] <bz> gozala: or something
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  2936. # [22:08] <@ehsan> khuey: if you don't care about your existing branches, you should just do that
  2937. # [22:08] <tbsaunde> khuey: personally I think its easier to pull the releng thing in and rebase onto it
  2938. # [22:08] <@ehsan> that is the easiest way to migrate
  2939. # [22:08] <@khuey> ehsan: ok, great
  2940. # [22:08] * @khuey does that
  2941. # [22:08] <bz> gozala: we explicitly prevent content-type docshells from accidentally inheriting the system principal from their parent
  2942. # [22:08] * tbsaunde returns to putting off dealing with that
  2943. # [22:08] <bz> gozala: see the big comments about ownerIsExplicit in nsDocShell::LoadURI
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  2945. # [22:09] <@ehsan> gps: you around?
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  2947. # [22:09] <gozala> bz: I’m not sure I quite follow what your trying to say
  2948. # [22:10] <@roc> RyanVM|sheriffduty: no, but it's on my todo list
  2949. # [22:10] <gozala> I do understand and I explicitly use mozbrowser to keep it content pricipaled
  2950. # [22:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> roc: ok :)
  2951. # [22:10] <gozala> bz: it’s just srcdoc becomes unusable with mozbrowser frames
  2952. # [22:10] <gozala> as any origin becomes different one
  2953. # [22:11] <gozala> or at least that’s my understanding
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  2956. # [22:11] <bz> gozala: srcdoc normally inherits the principal of the parent document
  2957. # [22:11] <bz> gozala: just like src="data:"
  2958. # [22:12] <bz> gozala: but we have an explicit security check to never inherit a system principal into a content-type docshell
  2959. # [22:12] <gozala> bz: But I actually want that frame to have content principal
  2960. # [22:12] <gozala> I don’t want it to inherit system principal
  2961. # [22:12] <bz> gozala: content principals aren't allowed to link to resource: URIs!
  2962. # [22:13] <gozala> I just want it to have same origin as document I’m loading into it
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  2965. # [22:13] <gozala> bz: wait but that resource document does not get's chrome prinipcals though
  2966. # [22:14] <gozala> is there some other principal for resources ?
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  2970. # [22:16] <bz> gozala: yes
  2971. # [22:16] <bz> gozala: resource: works just like file:
  2972. # [22:16] <bz> gozala: in terms of principals
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  2975. # [22:17] <gozala> bz: Is there any way I can create iframe that would have such a principal then ?
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  2989. # [22:24] <bhearsum|buildduty> ahal: is people.mozilla.org/~ahalberstadt/getb2g/xre-macosx.zip exactly what you want uploaded to tooltool?
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  2991. # [22:24] <ahal> bhearsum|buildduty: yeah
  2992. # [22:24] <ahal> I think :p
  2993. # [22:24] <ahal> it works on my local mac
  2994. # [22:24] <bhearsum|buildduty> :)
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  2996. # [22:25] <ahal> bhearsum|buildduty: it could possibly be smaller too
  2997. # [22:25] <shu`sick> is there a way on tbpl to retrigger *just* the jit-tests?
  2998. # [22:25] <bhearsum|buildduty> heh, reminds me of one of the #FiveWordTechHorrors....
  2999. # [22:25] <bhearsum|buildduty> i don't really care about the size
  3000. # [22:25] <bhearsum|buildduty> have you seen some of the b2g blobs we have to download?!
  3001. # [22:25] <bhearsum|buildduty> shu`sick: yup
  3002. # [22:25] <ahal> bhearsum|buildduty: yeah, but it'll get downloaded for each job
  3003. # [22:25] <ahal> heh
  3004. # [22:25] <shu`sick> bhearsum|buildduty: do tell
  3005. # [22:25] <bhearsum|buildduty> shu`sick: click on the individual test you want to retrigger, then in the bottom left there is a "+" button
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  3007. # [22:26] <shu`sick> bhearsum|buildduty: the jit-tests are run as part of the build
  3008. # [22:26] <bhearsum|buildduty> shu`sick: oh =(
  3009. # [22:26] <shu`sick> bhearsum|buildduty: that's why i was asking, i don't want to wait for a retrigger of the build
  3010. # [22:26] <bhearsum|buildduty> shu`sick: which branch?
  3011. # [22:26] <shu`sick> bhearsum|buildduty: mainly interested in try
  3012. # [22:26] <shu`sick> bhearsum|buildduty: trying to debug an intermittent i can't reproduce locally
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  3015. # [22:27] <bhearsum|buildduty> shu`sick: i think those can run outside of the build jobs these days...but you'll have to repush if you didn't get a jit-test job on your original one
  3016. # [22:27] <ahal> make check should be it's own job :/
  3017. # [22:27] <bhearsum|buildduty> ahal: we're working on it!
  3018. # [22:27] <ahal> bhearsum|buildduty: really? nice!
  3019. # [22:28] <bhearsum|buildduty> in fact...it already is in many places
  3020. # [22:28] <shu`sick> bhearsum|buildduty: what is the job called?
  3021. # [22:28] <bhearsum|buildduty> it's "Cpp" on tbpl
  3022. # [22:28] <bhearsum|buildduty> shu`sick: one sec...
  3023. # [22:28] <shu`sick> bhearsum|buildduty: you mean a SM(r) or something?
  3024. # [22:28] <bhearsum|buildduty> i don't think so...
  3025. # [22:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bhearsum|buildduty: that doesn't include jit tests
  3026. # [22:28] <bhearsum|buildduty> those are spidermonkey jobs
  3027. # [22:28] <bhearsum|buildduty> RyanVM|sheriffduty: i know
  3028. # [22:28] <bhearsum|buildduty> RyanVM|sheriffduty: but https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=931874 landed yesterday
  3029. # [22:28] <ahal> there's also the mozbase tests
  3030. # [22:28] <ahal> is that included?
  3031. # [22:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> shu`sick: eventually there will be a separate Jit job on tbpl
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  3033. # [22:28] <bhearsum|buildduty> ahal: not sure
  3034. # [22:28] <ahal> well it's a step :)
  3035. # [22:29] <bhearsum|buildduty> jit tests are "Jit" on TBPL
  3036. # [22:29] <bhearsum|buildduty> but they're probably hidden by default
  3037. # [22:29] <shu`sick> bhearsum|buildduty: i see
  3038. # [22:29] <bhearsum|buildduty> shu`sick: what's your try rev?
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  3042. # [22:29] <bhearsum|buildduty> ahal: sorry, i'll get back to tooltool soon :)
  3043. # [22:29] <shu`sick> bhearsum|buildduty: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=d0e96b7be1ab
  3044. # [22:30] <ahal> bhearsum|buildduty: no rush
  3045. # [22:30] <jld> Do I even want to know why there are two different Mailman instances.
  3046. # [22:30] <shu`sick> bhearsum|buildduty: it's still building
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  3048. # [22:30] <@khuey> jld: no
  3049. # [22:30] <bhearsum|buildduty> shu`sick: okay, so you should have Jit cells show up there soon
  3050. # [22:30] <shu`sick> bhearsum|buildduty: awesome, thanks
  3051. # [22:31] <bhearsum|buildduty> shu`sick: mind if i ask why you're doing -p all -u all ?
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  3054. # [22:31] <shu`sick> bhearsum|buildduty: which part, the -p part or the -u part?
  3055. # [22:31] <bhearsum|buildduty> shu`sick: both :)
  3056. # [22:31] <shu`sick> bhearsum|buildduty: the -p part because the intermittents were on multiple platforms
  3057. # [22:32] <shu`sick> bhearsum|buildduty: the -u part because of laziness
  3058. # [22:32] <bhearsum|buildduty> heh, ok
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  3060. # [22:32] <bhearsum|buildduty> shu`sick: good look with the debugging, i hope the separate jit-test helps speed it up
  3061. # [22:33] <shu`sick> bhearsum|buildduty: certainly should if it doesn't recompile :)
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  3063. # [22:33] <shu`sick> bhearsum|buildduty: it's going to be one of those retrigger 20 times and hope some of them fail and print something useful
  3064. # [22:33] <bhearsum|buildduty> shu`sick: if you think it would help, we could loan you out one of the test machines instead
  3065. # [22:34] <bhearsum|buildduty> totally up to you though
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  3067. # [22:35] <shu`sick> bhearsum|buildduty: if i can't figure out anything useful from this run i'll request one
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  3077. # [22:40] <bhearsum|buildduty> shu`sick: k
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  3090. # [22:44] <@smaug> tn: new new patch seems to work too
  3091. # [22:44] <tn> smaug: after my latest comment in the bug?
  3092. # [22:45] <@smaug> oh, missed
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  3096. # [22:45] <@smaug> tn: well, even without that
  3097. # [22:46] <@smaug> resize should happen async to that
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  3099. # [22:46] <@smaug> async to maximize
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  3102. # [22:47] <WeirdAl> Is there any kind of "file transaction" jsm code laying around somewhere?
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  3104. # [22:47] <tn> smaug, ok, so r+ if you move the adding of the resize listener to before the maximize call then
  3105. # [22:48] <WeirdAl> ... where's firebot?
  3106. # [22:48] <@smaug> tn: ok, I can do that, but don't understand why
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  3111. # [22:49] <tn> smaug: if for some reason the resize happens sync from the maximize call? also, logically it just makes sense to add the listener before the action that will cause the event
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  3114. # [22:50] <@smaug> logically if you add listener for an async thing, it doesn't matter whether you initiate that thing before adding listener
  3115. # [22:50] <@smaug> but ok
  3116. # [22:51] <tn> smaug: just for a person reading the code, it's easier to follow the flow
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  3121. # [22:52] <@smaug> tn: that is a good reason :)
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  3125. # [22:53] <tn> smaug: yeah, thats what i meant by "logically"
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  3129. # [22:56] * @smaug thinks still at least 3 failures to fix before landing the patch
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  3131. # [22:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sfink: orange
  3132. # [22:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: can I make requests? :D
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  3135. # [22:57] <@smaug> RyanVM|sheriffduty: to fix even more?
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  3137. # [22:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: just saying, if you're fixing them anyway... :P
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  3139. # [22:58] <tn> RyanVM|sheriffduty: he's fixing them to land a specific patch :)
  3140. # [22:58] <@smaug> so I think some contextmenu stuff on linux
  3141. # [22:58] <@smaug> and then there was something else too
  3142. # [22:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> tn: I know that
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  3144. # [22:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sheesh, can't a guy make aj oke around here?
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  3148. # [22:58] <@smaug> no :)
  3149. # [22:59] <@smaug> you need to use #content for that
  3150. # [22:59] <Callek> aj oke, no. A joke, maybe
  3151. # [22:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> this channel needs more face
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  3157. # [23:01] <sfink> RyanVM|sheriffduty: couldn't possibly be me. My patch was perfect. Flawless. No way it could do anything wrong.
  3158. # [23:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sfink: that's what they all say!
  3159. # [23:01] <sfink> RyanVM|sheriffduty: also, I just backed out
  3160. # [23:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yay
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  3162. # [23:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> need to get the other leaker backed out before reopening though
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  3183. # [23:07] <@smaug> whaat, m-i is in a state where one can't even run tests
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  3185. # [23:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: tip should be good now
  3186. # [23:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> all the known bustage is out
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  3188. # [23:08] <@smaug> k
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  3195. # [23:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: I have 7 pushes that landed on top of the mass bustage though, so gonna leave inbound closed for awhile to make sure no other surprises are waiting for us
  3196. # [23:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sfink: *ahem*
  3197. # [23:10] <sfink> ?
  3198. # [23:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ^
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  3200. # [23:11] <sfink> sorry, not following. I'm backed out. What do you need?
  3201. # [23:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> to wait for the pushes that landed after you to go green
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  3206. # [23:11] <sfink> ah
  3207. # [23:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> since the tests are completely borked
  3208. # [23:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> random question: whatever happened to Bernd?
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  3210. # [23:12] <@roc> he drifted off several years ago
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  3212. # [23:12] <sfink> so all I can do now is dig up an mp3 off some nice elevator muzak and send it to you
  3213. # [23:12] <sfink> *of
  3214. # [23:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sfink: I'm going for a walk :)
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  3216. # [23:13] <glandium> jorendorff: yay for a pile of crap in gecko \o/
  3217. # [23:13] <glandium> jorendorff: (literally, there's an emoji for that)
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  3219. # [23:13] <glandium> jwalker: did you figure it out?
  3220. # [23:13] <sfink> my patch only broke stuff that runs scripts
  3221. # [23:13] <sfink> running scripts is unsafe anyway
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  3223. # [23:13] <jorendorff> glandium: that's my secret agenda, i want the PILE OF POO to render with animated sparkles
  3224. # [23:14] <jorendorff> tasteful, subtle animated sparkles
  3225. # [23:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sfink: yeah, we should really discourage that
  3226. # [23:14] <jwalker> glandium: give me 10 mins plz, on call
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  3234. # [23:21] <jesup> remind me: did we get rid of the "no <<foo>> constructs, use <<foo> >" issue?
  3235. # [23:21] <jesup> silly compilers...
  3236. # [23:22] <squib> jesup: in thunderbird at least, i think anything post-24 can use <<foo>>
  3237. # [23:23] <squib> i assume that applies to mozilla-central
  3238. # [23:23] <glandium> jesup: everywhere that builds on b2g needs > > anyways
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  3240. # [23:23] <glandium> (iirc)
  3241. # [23:23] <jesup> :-(
  3242. # [23:23] <jesup> thanks
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  3244. # [23:23] <squib> weird. i thought b2g used gcc 4.6 or something
  3245. # [23:23] <glandium> jesup: well, you can double check with a try
  3246. # [23:23] <glandium> squib: haha
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  3248. # [23:24] <squib> probably not for 1.0.x though
  3249. # [23:24] <squib> since that's on gecko 18, essentially
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  3252. # [23:24] <squib> but i thought any b2g using mozilla-central used a pretty new gcc
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  3254. # [23:25] <kinetik> there's a fair bit of <<foo>> in the tree, including content/media/RtspMediaResource.h which is B2G code afaik
  3255. # [23:25] <jesup> So 29 should be fine then. Cool
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  3259. # [23:26] <jwalker> glandium: ok so off call.
  3260. # [23:26] <jwalker> the question is about copying a number of files as part of make
  3261. # [23:27] <jwalker> I guess it's summed up here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=933727#c9
  3262. # [23:27] <RyanVM|brb> squib: 4.4
  3263. # [23:27] <jwalker> (that comment came as the result of an iirc converstion, which went dead)
  3264. # [23:27] <RyanVM|brb> squib: you can be sad now
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  3266. # [23:27] <squib> RyanVM|brb: doesn't 4.4 support >> for templates though?
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  3268. # [23:27] <RyanVM|brb> beats me
  3269. # [23:27] <RyanVM|brb> just saying :)
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  3272. # [23:28] <squib> yeah, that's been legal since gcc 4.3 :)
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  3274. # [23:28] <glandium> jwalker: (unrelatedly, why does this code had to be apache-licensed?)
  3275. # [23:29] <jwalker> it's from a separate project
  3276. # [23:29] <jwalker> which is used by other projects
  3277. # [23:30] <glandium> jwalker: i don't remember if we have something yet for those kind of cases
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  3281. # [23:30] <jwalker> glandium: I guess the ultimate question is: would I be wrong to check that in?
  3282. # [23:30] <glandium> jwalker: yes
  3283. # [23:30] <jwalker> ok
  3284. # [23:31] <jwalker> i *could* do it by naming each file individually, but that would kind of suck
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  3286. # [23:31] <glandium> jwalker: do you need that uplifted to other branches?
  3287. # [23:31] <jwalker> no
  3288. # [23:31] <jwalker> it can ride the trains
  3289. # [23:32] <glandium> jwalker: then you could wait for a few days, i think this is something i could do this week ; i'll talk to gps about it later today
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  3292. # [23:32] <jwalker> I could wait a few days
  3293. # [23:32] <jwalker> shall i create a bug?
  3294. # [23:33] <glandium> jwalker: i /think/ there's already one
  3295. # [23:33] <glandium> jwalker: but go ahead, i'll dupe it if necessary
  3296. # [23:33] <jwalker> core:build_config ?
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  3300. # [23:38] <jwalker> glandium: I filled Bug 949205. Thanks for your help
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  3305. # [23:43] <WeirdAl> :( Chrome workers can't access XPCOM? That... stinks.
  3306. # [23:44] <@khuey> xpcom is single threaded
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  3308. # [23:44] <@smaug> xpconnect is
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  3310. # [23:45] <WeirdAl> well, there goes another bright idea of mine down the toilet
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  3313. # [23:47] <WeirdAl> would've been nice to have txmgr on a chrome worker :p
  3314. # [23:48] <WeirdAl> (undoable file ops)
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  3324. # [23:51] <@khuey> smaug: if I say it enough times it'll become true
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