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# Session Start: Mon Dec 16 00:00:00 2013
# Session Ident: #developers
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# [00:00] <nrc> i did indeed
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# [00:02] <@njn> nrc: sounds like you'd make a sad face if you ate it anyway
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# [00:02] <nrc> heh
# [00:02] <nrc> lots of people seem to enjoy them, not sure why
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# [00:02] <@roc> really?
# [00:02] <nrc> at least their shells are very pretty
# [00:03] <@roc> I've never had one and I don't recall anyone mentioning they have
# [00:03] <@roc> yes, the shells are pretty.
# [00:03] * Unfocused has never tried one either
# [00:03] <@njn> I can confirm: the shells are pretty
# [00:03] <nrc> but I always see people out catching them, I assume they eat them afterwards
# [00:03] <nrc> They can't be very good sport
# [00:04] <@roc> hehe
# [00:04] <@njn> roc: Jeremy Singer told me he was going to suggest me to do the keynote at ISMM. IIRC you did that last year, right?
# [00:05] <@roc> two years ago
# [00:05] <@roc> well
# [00:05] <@roc> ok it was last year
# [00:05] <@roc> so it will have been two years by the time you give it
# [00:06] <@roc> I think I sent you a copy of my talk back then, so you should be able to avoid repeating it :-)
# [00:06] <@njn> roc: gotcha
# [00:06] <@njn> roc: you used all my material!
# [00:06] <@njn> :P
# [00:06] <@roc> haven't you done any work in the last two years? :-)
# [00:07] <@roc> IIRC I talked a bit about your work but not that much. I didn't talk about DMD.
# [00:08] <@roc> I hope Jeremy's aware that I talked before. It's probably good form to remind him.
# [00:08] <@smaug> icc + igc/ggc + bbp + forgetSkippable ...
# [00:08] <@njn> roc: true, I'll do that
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# [00:09] <@smaug> there might be something interesting in our memory management
# [00:09] <@roc> smaug: I talked a bit about our CC optimizations back then. ICC is certainly new since then
# [00:09] <@smaug> icc is certainly new, I'm just reviewing the patches :)
# [00:09] <@roc> yes, there certainly is
# [00:10] <@smaug> somehow mccr8 has managed to make this whole icc look rather trivial
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# [00:11] <@roc> njn: I think I told you this before, but one thing I found was tremendously important when talking to the ISMM people is to remind them that our heaps are mostly single threaded. Almost all the literature around optimizing cycle collection rests on the assumption that refcount operations have to be atomic and therefore must be avoided at all costs.
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# [00:12] <@smaug> ah, but we have had significant refcnt operation optimizations too
# [00:12] <@smaug> snow-white was about that
# [00:12] <@roc> you mean like already_AddRefed etc?
# [00:13] <@smaug> no. snow-white made AddRef/Release of ccable objects significantly faster
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# [00:13] <@roc> I keep seeing references to that. What is it?
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# [00:14] <@smaug> before sw, refcnt was either a refcnt or a pointer to a purple buffer entry which had the refcnt
# [00:15] <@smaug> in case we had to access pb entry to update refcnt, it was slow because of indirect access
# [00:15] <@smaug> with sw refcnt is always a refcnt (+ 2 bits)
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# [00:15] <@roc> is it documented anywhere?
# [00:16] <@smaug> well, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=snow-white
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# [00:18] <@roc> probably needs some real documentation :-)
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# [00:18] <@smaug> sw changed deletion of objects, since it is now up to the cycle collector to delete. refcnt==0 is just a snow-white object, but can be still alive (well, sort of)
# [00:18] <@smaug> yup
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# [00:33] <RealRaven> how does Firefox determine whether it is on a handheld device?
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# [00:35] <@njn> RealRaven: at a guess... Firefox for Android is an entirely different product to Firefox for desktop (well there's lots of shared code, but lots of non-shared bits too), so that knowledge is baked into the product
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# [00:36] <@njn> at least, that's my understanding
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# [00:37] <RealRaven> njn: I was searching on mxr for the term "handheld" but came back with very little
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# [00:37] <@njn> RealRaven: by "handheld" do you mean phone or tablet?
# [00:37] <RealRaven> there must be a point in the code where it parses @media handheld queries
# [00:37] <RealRaven> njn: I mean whatever triggers the @media handheld CSS query
# [00:37] <heycam> I'm not sure that we ever match the handheld media query, even on Firefox for Android
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# [00:38] <heycam> this bug is still open https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236427
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# [00:38] <@njn> RealRaven: listen to heycam, he actually knows what he's talking about with this stuff
# [00:38] <@njn> :)
# [00:38] <heycam> heh
# [00:39] <RealRaven> heycam: I am only following this: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/CSS/Media_queries
# [00:39] <RealRaven> heycam: I have a presentation tomorrow and it would be nice if I could "trigger" my stylesheets by faking a handheld bit.
# [00:40] <heycam> RealRaven, you can always use max-width / max-height
# [00:40] <RealRaven> heycam: using max-width is too hit and miss. e.g. nexus 7 has 1280 pixels width
# [00:40] <RealRaven> heycam: but that doesn't really tell me that its pixels are tiny
# [00:40] <heycam> RealRaven, I wonder if we support the resolution media query
# [00:40] <RealRaven> heycam: worse - I am using a Samsung Galaxy 800*480. a pixel is about half a pixel on my desktop
# [00:41] <RealRaven> heycam: if there was a dpi setting that would be ideal
# [00:41] <RealRaven> heycam: earlier I found layout.css.devPixelsPerPx in about:config which is super awesome
# [00:42] <RealRaven> <== needs to read up on the resolution query.
# [00:43] <RealRaven> what is a typical resolution for a 22 inch monitor?
# [00:43] <RealRaven> Also, the bigger the dpi, the smaller the pixels, is this correct?
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# [00:43] <heycam> RealRaven, just looking through the code, I haven't found anything yet that responds to resolution with dpi values. I see some uses of dppx in our internal style sheets.
# [00:44] <Hughman> RealRaven: do you mean something like https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Mobile/Viewport_meta_tag ?
# [00:45] <RealRaven> Hughman: reading...
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# [00:50] <RealRaven> ...what's a typical 240 dpi screen?
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# [00:51] <RealRaven> is there a dpi calculcator somewhere?
# [00:53] <RealRaven> hmm according to this http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html
# [00:54] <RealRaven> my desktop screens have Display size: 18.66" × 11.66" = 217.53in² (47.39cm × 29.62cm = 1403.4cm²) at 90.05 PPI, 0.2821mm dot pitch, 8109 PPI²
# [00:54] <RealRaven> but where is the dpi in that?
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# [00:55] <RealRaven> So if my monitor has 90 PPI = 90 "dpi", then my Samsung Galaxy probably has 180 dpi?
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# [00:56] <Hughman> RealRaven: it should be about "pixels width / screen inches width" if that helps
# [00:56] <RealRaven> ok. I am a little bad with inches (metric here), let me get that Galaxy and measure it quickly
# [00:57] <RealRaven> 4inches high. 800pixels
# [00:57] <@njn> philor: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Sheriffing/Job_Visibility_Policy#12.29_Crashes_should_produce_valid_crash_stacks is a new requirement... do you know if I need to do anything special for Valgrind jobs?
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# [00:58] <RealRaven> a here it is:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_II
# [00:59] <RealRaven> 4.3 in (110 mm) AMOLED with 480×800 pixels (218 ppi)
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# [01:00] <@njn> philor: --enable-crashreporter is present in the logs
# [01:00] <@njn> philor: and this is on Linux64, so hopefully that's enough?
# [01:01] <RealRaven> so more than double. 218ppi as opposed to 90 ppi.that means 1px Samsung = 0.41 Pixels on my desktop monitors. Poor eyes
# [01:01] <RealRaven> would also mean my style sheet needs double the size fonts on a mobile device. So what I need is a media dpi query
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# [01:01] <RealRaven> one that works across browsers :P
# [01:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7635b9512d86 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 950508 - Build widget/windows in unified mode; r=roc
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# [01:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1566a2e95c3b - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 950505 - Build content/media/wmf in unified mode; r=roc
# [01:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bce074481220 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 950507 - Build content/media/fmp4 in unified mode; r=roc
# [01:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/caa78bef50e3 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 950506 - Build content/media/directshow in unified mode; r=roc
# [01:04] <RealRaven> good night all!
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# [01:04] <RealRaven> tx for helping
# [01:04] <Hughman> RealRaven: wouldn't <meta name="viewport" content="initial-scale=1"> result in that?
# [01:05] <RealRaven> Hughman: I don't know can you explain before I go to bed? what does this mean
# [01:05] <@njn> philor: do you recognize the failure at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=9b7c79deaf05&showall=1 ?
# [01:05] <RealRaven> Hughman: does it mean that everything is always scaled correctly?
# [01:05] <@njn> philor: nsinstall: cannot make symbolic link /builds/slave/try-l64-valgrind-0000000000000/objdir/js/src/js: File exists
# [01:05] <Hughman> RealRaven: it did that last time I used it
# [01:06] <@njn> philor: the patch I added is tiny, and a prior run without the patch was fine...
# [01:06] <Hughman> RealRaven: worth a try but placing that in the page head tag anyway
# [01:06] <Hughman> *by
# [01:06] <RealRaven> ok. will do
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# [01:07] <RealRaven> I nheed to send this IRC conversation to my email, let's see if this is possible in Thunderbird
# [01:08] <Hughman> RealRaven: see logbot link in channel topic
# [01:09] <RealRaven> Hughman: tx!
# [01:09] <RealRaven> I just did a Select all and dumped it into an email. not canonical, but fast and worked for me :P
# [01:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9063babbb519 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 950504. Remove MatrixForThebesMatrix. r=mattwoodrow
# [01:10] <Hughman> RealRaven: np
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# [01:11] <RealRaven> I hope my colleague won't be too unimpressed I refactored the CSS of the site but I used mostly @media only screen and max-width (and max-height)
# [01:11] <RealRaven> beats rewriting the site as Android app though :-)
# [01:12] <RealRaven> Especially with all those SAP and Oracle calls :D
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# [01:24] <@roc> spambot says "hi! It's me! I'm visiting this site on a regular basis."
# [01:24] <@roc> yes, I have no doubt you are.
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# [01:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7aff3ce81046 - Chris Pearce - Bug 938107 - Wait for media state machine thread to shutdown during XPCOM shutdown before returning. r=roc
# [01:33] <@njn> roc: any idea what dictates Firefox's exit code?
# [01:33] <@njn> roc: Windows PGO build runs are returning non-zero, and we currently don't check the exit code; I've added it for Valgrind, and so it's biting me
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# [01:36] <@roc> no idea
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# [01:38] <@njn> roc: where is main()?
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# [01:39] <@njn> XRE_main() is in nsAppRunner.cpp...
# [01:39] <@roc> don't know
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# [01:40] <@njn> roc: nsBrowserApp.cpp, I think
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# [01:41] <Unfocused> yea, was about to say that
# [01:42] <@njn> Unfocused: you were about to be right!
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# [01:46] <@njn> yo tryserver, where's my job?
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# [01:47] <@njn> oh, there it is
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# [01:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/553146bde62c - Chris Pearce - Bug 938107 - Backed out changeset 7aff3ce81046 for bustage. r=bustage.
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# [01:55] <yeukhon> ugh tonight nightly and flash just don't get along very well
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# [01:55] <yeukhon> high cpu and memory spike.
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# [02:15] <nrc> I am seeing a huge amount of fail when parsing WebIDL - No regular expression defined for rule t_OTHER
# [02:15] <nrc> anyone know what's up with that?
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# [02:27] <philor> njn: nope, never seen it, don't see why either the leak or the return code would produce it
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# [02:27] <@njn> philor: I re-triggered and it was still there, so I re-submitted to try and it went away
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# [02:28] <philor> oh, I failed to look at the first thing I usually look at, "was it one slave, which we can blame?"
# [02:29] <philor> not that I have a theory for why poor bld-centos6-hp-027 can't create a symlink
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# [02:39] <ewong> race?
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# [02:50] <@njn> heycam: reading the CSS variables reaction... Wadler's Law strikes again
# [02:50] * @njn is so sick of that damned Law
# [02:50] * heycam does not know that law
# [02:51] <@njn> heycam: the short version is "OMG syntax!"
# [02:51] <heycam> njn, ha
# [02:51] <@njn> In any language design, the total time spent discussing
# [02:51] <@njn> a feature in this list is proportional to two raised to
# [02:51] <@njn> the power of its position.
# [02:51] <@njn> 0. Semantics
# [02:51] <@njn> 1. Syntax
# [02:51] <@njn> 2. Lexical syntax
# [02:51] <@njn> 3. Lexical syntax of comments
# [02:51] <@njn> heycam: I liked Graydon's approach with the Rust syntax
# [02:52] <heycam> 2**0 sounds about right
# [02:52] <@njn> heycam: AIUI, he basically said "the syntax isn't settled, this is just placeholder syntax, so don't bitch about it"
# [02:52] <@njn> heycam: but then the follow-up discussion never happend and the "placeholder" syntax remained
# [02:52] <@njn> heycam: at least, that's my understanding, but I could be totally wrong
# [02:52] <heycam> heh that is one way to do it :)
# [02:53] <heycam> not that I have anything against syntax by fiat. better than incorporating a bunch of different ides.
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# [02:53] <heycam> still, $ would have been nice given people were used to it
# [02:53] <@njn> the older I get, all I care about is making syntax as strict as possible, so code style guides have as little leeway as possible
# [02:53] <heycam> I think one of the main reasons not to use it was because the semantics were different from LESS/SASS (whichever one uses the $)
# [02:54] <@njn> oh, you want to choose where to put that brace? sorry
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# [02:55] <mjrosenb> njn: I use similar arguments w.r.t. types whenever
# [02:55] <heycam> there is a certain kind of person, me included, who can spend too much time fretting about code matching style guides, or being consistent with existing code
# [02:55] <mjrosenb> I use js or python
# [02:55] <heycam> the less leeway I have in the language the better, I guess :)
# [02:55] <@njn> heycam: definitely
# [02:55] <@njn> heycam: that's why gofmt is a great idea
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# [02:59] <mjrosenb> gofmt?
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# [03:00] <mjrosenb> oh, a go formatter.
# [03:01] <mjrosenb> I was parsing that as some combination of gofer and game of thrones...
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# [03:15] <@njn> heycam|away: in the year 2013 there are still people who think that a language with significant whitespace cannot possibly be usable
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# [03:35] <doublec> njn: is signifiant whitespace a syntax thing and you discusing it is an instance of wadler's law?
# [03:36] <@njn> doublec: significant whitespace is very much a syntax thing
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# [03:36] <doublec> njn: I seem to recall roc wanting languages to have a 'one true style' that would be a compile error if people deviate from.
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# [03:37] <@njn> doublec: yes -- gofmt
# [03:37] <@njn> like that
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# [03:39] <mjrosenb> and you must use camel cased hungarian notation!
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# [03:50] <@roc> gofmt is for weaklings. COMPILE ERROR
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# [03:50] <@roc> incorrect indent? COMPILE ERROR.
# [03:50] <@roc> deviation from naming convention? COMPILE ERROR
# [03:50] <@roc> look at me wrong? COMPILE ERROR
# [03:50] <mjrosenb> roc: and if you don't agree with the indentation style of the language authors?
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# [03:51] <@roc> use a different language
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# [03:51] <@roc> just as you would if you don't like other aspects of the syntax
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# [03:52] <@roc> but if you use my language, you know that you'll be able to import and export code fragments without worrying about style issues.
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# [03:52] <mjrosenb> roc: now, I envision go-gnu, go-k+r, go-bsd and 10 other languages emeging that only differ in formatting.
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# [03:53] <@roc> nah, that would be stupid
# [03:53] <@roc> syntactic infelicities haven't forced other language forks
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# [03:57] <mjrosenb> other languages haven't had such strict syntacies
# [03:57] <@roc> is that a word?
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# [03:58] <heycam> english spelling error? IRC CLIENT REFUSES INPUT
# [03:59] <heycam> actually better build it in to the keyboard
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# [03:59] <doublec> why does my caps lock not work when using irc????
# [03:59] <doublec> sounds like a great idea
# [04:01] <rcampbelllaos> Good morning everyone! Wanting to get started on a Lao translation of Firefox. I have another team member here and getting him ready to start. Can the Lao locale be added to pootle?
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# [04:04] <heycam> rcampbelllaos, hi, the right people might not be around at the moment. you could email axel@mozilla.com about it though.
# [04:04] <rcampbelllaos> heycam: Sounds good, will send one off...
# [04:05] <@njn> rcampbelllaos: I don't know anything about translations, but http://mozilla.locamotion.org/ seems relevant
# [04:05] <@njn> rcampbelllaos: "2. Drop us a message and tell us which language you want to translate into" (and there's a link)
# [04:06] <rcampbelllaos> njn: Is that where the firefox translation is done? What about https://localize.mozilla.org/?
# [04:06] <@njn> rcampbelllaos: and there's already http://mozilla.locamotion.org/lo/, though it's only 7% complete
# [04:06] <rcampbelllaos> njn: Yeah, noticed that... If worked on here, will it be submitted to the main repo?
# [04:07] <@njn> rcampbelllaos: beyond my knowledge, sorry
# [04:07] <rcampbelllaos> njn: no problem, will research some more...
# [04:07] <rcampbelllaos> njn: Thanks for the clues!
# [04:07] <@njn> rcampbelllaos: heycam's right, emailing axel is a good idea
# [04:08] <rcampbelllaos> njn: composing one to axel now
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# [04:55] <philor> cpearce: well, on the bright side, that builds...
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# [08:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> mattwoodrow: ping
# [08:59] <mattwoodrow> Tomcat|sheriffduty: pong
# [08:59] <mattwoodrow> oh :(
# [09:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey mattwoodrow wonder if https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32014974&tree=Mozilla-Inbound could be related to your push
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# [09:05] <mattwoodrow> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I think I see what it is, but I'm not 100% sure
# [09:05] <mattwoodrow> Want me to back out and go through try? Or push a followup and hope :)
# [09:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> well if you are confident it fix the issue a follow up would be fine :)
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# [09:09] <mattwoodrow> fairly confident, yeah
# [09:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed71fd2a3a2d - Matt Woodrow - Bug 913503 - Fix reversed if() condition to fix bustage.
# [09:10] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> cool
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# [09:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> thanks mattwoodrow
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# [09:15] <briansmith> My local windows build is failing: https://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/3787889
# [09:16] <briansmith> looks like bustage because of unified sources: difference .cpp files define LOG and they get unified together. Then warning causes error because WARNINGS_AS_ERRORS
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# [09:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> briansmith: inbound or central ?
# [09:20] <briansmith> mozilla-inbound
# [09:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok
# [09:20] <briansmith> revision ed71fd2a3a2d
# [09:20] <briansmith> but, it seems like it might be a local-only failure
# [09:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok thats the latest push from mattwoodrow
# [09:20] <briansmith> as I have ac_add_options --enable-warnings-as-errors
# [09:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> from the revision at least :)
# [09:21] <briansmith> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I suspect 377f51d0e354 Chris Pearce – Bug 938108 - Wait for media state machine thread to shutdown d
# [09:22] <briansmith> because he added a new file/files to content/media and that may have reshuffled the unified sources
# [09:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm tbpl builds are green, did you try a clobber build ?
# [09:23] <briansmith> Tomcat|sheriffduty: 1566a2e95c3b Ehsan Akhgari – Bug 950505 - Build content/media/wmf in unified mode; r=roc
# [09:23] <briansmith> Yes, I just clobbered
# [09:23] <briansmith> I suspect that tbl doesn't do ac_add_options --enable-warnings-as-errors on Windows
# [09:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah i think so
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# [09:24] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> maybe glandium has an idea here, worth at least to file a bug i think
# [09:25] <briansmith> I am going to back out 1566a2e95c3b (Bug 950505 - Build content/media/wmf in unified mode; r=roc) locally and rebuild
# [09:26] <briansmith> my build has already gotten further than before with that backout
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# [09:27] <briansmith> caa78bef50e3 too
# [09:27] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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# [09:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning Ms2ger
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# [09:29] <Ms2ger> Hmm, desktop cppunittests jobs are on?
# [09:30] <briansmith> and cset bce074481220
# [09:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> briansmith: building now also a a inbound build
# [09:31] <Ms2ger> And they don't run on Windows XP/7 Debug?
# [09:32] <briansmith> Ms2ger: I believe gtests are disabled on Windows because of some Windows 8 issue
# [09:32] <briansmith> don't know about the rest of the cpp unit tests
# [09:32] <Ms2ger> They run on win8 debug and all windows opt/pgo, so I don't think that's the issue
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# [09:34] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> briansmith: so configure run successful, build is running now - but we should file a bug on this
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# [09:35] <briansmith> Tomcat|sheriffduty: can't I just backout bce074481220, caa78bef50e3, and 1566a2e95c3b and reopen those bugs?
# [09:36] <briansmith> The problem is those files aren't written properly for UNIFIED_SOURCES but those csets build them unified
# [09:36] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> briansmith: yeah thats fine for me
# [09:36] <briansmith> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I am going to see if cset 7635b9512d86 also needs to be backed out.
# [09:36] <briansmith> waiting for build to finish now
# [09:36] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok
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# [09:39] <Ms2ger> And we're running the c++ unit tests both on the builder and from the package
# [09:39] * Ms2ger wonders why
# [09:41] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: but we're getting twice as much coverage!
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# [09:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e732b606690e - Brian Smith - Back out cset caa78bef50e3 (bug 950506) for build failure on Windows when warnings are treated as errors
# [09:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/68f54b5d51cd - Brian Smith - Back out cset bce074481220 (bug 950507) for build failure on Windows when warnings are treated as errors
# [09:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e353c1d40586 - Brian Smith - Back out cset 1566a2e95c3b (bug 950505) for build failure on Windows when warnings are treated as errors
# [09:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/464ec8159135 - Raymond Etornam Agbeame - Bug 945857: Remove the security.fresh_revocation_info.require preference, r=briansmith
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# [09:45] <Gijs> Does sphinx only support autodoc for python?
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# [09:45] <mjrosenb> PASSED ALL
# [09:45] <mjrosenb> \o/
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# [09:45] <Gijs> argh.
# [09:45] <Gijs> Like, is there a way to make it do something useful for C++/IDL/JS?
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# [09:46] <briansmith> Tomcat|sheriffduty: all done
# [09:46] <Gijs> Or is it limited to python only?
# [09:47] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> briansmith: thx
# [09:49] <Ms2ger> "but C/C++ is already supported as well"
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# [09:53] <Ms2ger> briansmith, our windows builds do have --enable-warnings-as-errors, maybe you have a different compiler version that warns more?
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# [09:53] <briansmith> VS2010
# [09:54] <Gijs> Ms2ger: right, but then the internet says that that means it has directives to use inside .rst files for it to generate nice-looking API docs.
# [09:54] <Gijs> Ms2ger: rather than actually being able to read doc comments
# [09:54] <Ms2ger> I see
# [09:55] <Gijs> which is sadmaking, really
# [09:55] <Gijs> I just wrote a bunch of docs in my source files, and if I have to copy/paste them elsewhere I might as well just stick them straight into MDN.
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# [09:55] <Ms2ger> Right, that doesn't make sense
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# [10:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b67b9a6a65fa - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 938640 - Make forwarding to outer conditional on current inner. r=bz.
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# [10:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4f38b8a96681 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge fx-team to mozilla-central
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# [10:26] <twi> can I push to try if I use the git mirror?
# [10:26] <Ms2ger> Not that I know of
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# [10:27] <twi> if I cloned the hg repo, do I need special powers to push to try?
# [10:27] <twi> or can anyone push?
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# [10:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> twi: you need level 1 access -> https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryServer
# [10:28] <twi> thanks
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# [10:29] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np
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# [10:35] <twi> since that will take a while, I would appreciate it if anyone could push https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=928806 to try so I can get an asan build
# [10:35] <twi> i set the review? bit but i'm not sure that it actually fixes the issue...
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# [10:37] <Ms2ger> twi, sure, if you give me the syntax you need from http://trychooser.pub.build.mozilla.org/
# [10:37] <twi> hah, nice, give me a sec to learn this :)
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# [10:41] <twi> hm, how do I trigger gtest?
# [10:42] <Ms2ger> I think they run during the build
# [10:42] <Ms2ger> So you don't need to select them
# [10:42] <twi> so I don't need to select anything specifically?
# [10:42] <twi> ok
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# [10:42] <twi> then I think I need try: -b d -p linux,linux64-asan -u none -t none
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# [10:49] <Ms2ger> twi, okay, done
# [10:49] <twi> Ms2ger thanks!
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# [10:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e65d37d2e3e4 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 942530 - Use typed enums in jsinfer.h. r=bhackett
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# [11:37] <@Cwiiis> If I wanted to propose a new CSS property, is there a guide on how to go about that anywhere?
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# [11:43] <paul> Cwiiis: saw your tweet. Talk to Rik.
# [11:43] <@Cwiiis> paul: is Rik on IRC?
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# [11:43] <padenot> Cwiiis: rik is still in bed, it seems
# [11:43] <paul> Cwiiis: but basically, it'd be nice to bind keyframes to a scroll position, not time.
# [11:44] <@Cwiiis> paul: ooh, that's a nice way of doing it :)
# [11:45] <@Cwiiis> We have basically all the mechanics to do that already in the compositor, bar the actual link and data storage about the link
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# [11:45] <paul> right
# [11:45] <@Cwiiis> paul: has he proposed that already/written it up somewhere?
# [11:45] <paul> Cwiiis: talk to https://phonebook.mozilla.org/tree.php#search/aricaud@mozilla.com and https://phonebook.mozilla.org/tree.php#search/mbudzynski@mozilla.com
# [11:46] <paul> Cwiiis: I don't think so
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# [11:49] <@Cwiiis> paul: ok, I'm going to blog about it first - tying it with keyframes is a great idea, much better than my original idea :)
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# [12:18] <avih> for the sake of testing, could i give chrome privileges to a content page?
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# [12:19] <avih> Ms2ger: ^ ?
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# [12:41] <@Cwiiis> paul: blogged about it, will contact rik later: http://chrislord.net/index.php/2013/12/16/linking-css-properties-with-scroll-position-a-proposal/
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# [12:53] <paul> Cwiiis: nice. I did some prototyping where keyframes where driven by scroll position, but quickly ran into some thread issues…
# [12:53] <paul> Cwiiis: nothing serious though
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# [12:54] <paul> Cwiiis: I imagine we could have something like: animation-controller:scroll-x; where default would be animation-controller:time;
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# [12:55] <paul> Cwiiis: what's hard is that you don't always want to use the scroll position of the whole page, but maybe just one <div>
# [12:55] <paul> Cwiiis: and maybe you don't want to use the scroll position but the value of an <input type=range>
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# [13:03] <@Cwiiis> paul: animation-controller sounds nicer again than what I've suggested :)
# [13:04] <@Cwiiis> paul: given we don't have async range input, I don't think that's as imminent a problem
# [13:04] <paul> right
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# [13:04] <@Cwiiis> paul: though can you control animation progress? Because if not, that seems like a thing we should enable...
# [13:04] <paul> It's important to not depend on the main thread
# [13:05] <@Cwiiis> It is, but that doesn't preclude being able to change the animation position
# [13:05] <paul> hmm
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# [13:06] <@Cwiiis> there just wouldn't be guarantees about how promptly the change would happen (and possibly even the playback state, if you don't explicitly set it)
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# [13:06] <paul> everything is simpler if you only use scroll position: the CSS syntax & threading
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# [13:07] <paul> if you need a syntax that can: target one specific node (body, a div, …) and define how to be controlled (.value or scroll position), that will make the syntax messy
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# [13:10] <@Cwiiis> paul: I agree
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# [13:22] <Ms2ger> roc, that blog post scared me for a bit... Glad you got off easy!
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# [13:25] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: yeah ++
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# [13:32] <@roc> :-)
# [13:33] <@roc> Cwiiis: are you familiar with Tab Atkins' proposal for using CSS animations to do what you suggest?
# [13:34] <@roc> well I guess you were just discussing that
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# [13:34] <@roc> but I think it was Tab, not rik
# [13:34] <@roc> or at least Chrome people
# [13:34] <@roc> or maybe he got it from them
# [13:35] <@roc> there was discussion on www-style anyway
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# [13:37] <@Cwiiis> roc: I wasn't aware, no - I guess I should search that list then :)
# [13:38] <@Cwiiis> roc: oh handy, someone just linked me on Twitter :)
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# [13:40] <@smaug> that white number under red background in bugzilla is annoying. I can't get it to < 10 and it is rarely < 20
# [13:40] <@smaug> hmm, perhaps during Christmas break ...
# [13:41] <@roc> mine's about 54
# [13:42] <@roc> I need to go through and clear out some review requests
# [13:42] <@roc> Cwiiis: I'm ambivalent about the idea. It feels a bit like a cheesy hack to address some designs that are fashionable right now but might not stand the test of time.
# [13:42] <@roc> OTOH it's kind of neat
# [13:43] <@Cwiiis> roc: I think wanting to change a property based on scroll position is a generic enough thing to not tie it to today's ideas
# [13:43] <@Cwiiis> roc: I can think of less gimmicky uses of it than parallax/flip-book stuff
# [13:44] <@Cwiiis> Also, I'm tired of seeing jerky crap on mobile, if people insist on doing it, let's make it nice :p
# [13:44] <twi> carousels, fancy lists in apps, I think there's a legitimate use for drive-anim-on-scroll
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# [13:47] <@roc> I'm not sure how to do carousels with this
# [13:47] <paul> roc: Cwiiis: I know that it would the B2G people happy (:Rik will have more details)
# [13:47] <twi> roc transform: an element based on scroll position for example
# [13:48] <@roc> OK I guess it works when you can get the effect by changing transform on a single element.
# [13:48] <@roc> But what about, say, coverflow?
# [13:49] <@roc> I guess you could have script generate a scroll-position-driven animation for each element
# [13:49] <twi> yeah
# [13:49] <@Cwiiis> assuming that the scroll position is relative, I could see doing coverflow
# [13:50] <@roc> icky
# [13:50] <twi> or if the list of elements is fixed, and so all the keyframes are fixed, that's doable too
# [13:51] <@roc> maybe we can introduce some crazy hack to calc() to let it use the index of the element in its parent's child list or something
# [13:51] <twi> heh
# [13:53] <@roc> we keep adding new CSS features to do ever-more-complex things in the compositor
# [13:53] <@roc> because we can't let authors run code in it
# [13:53] <@roc> I'm afraid of the compositor functionality growing out of control
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# [13:54] <@roc> anway
# [13:54] <@roc> sleep
# [13:54] <twi> sleep well :)
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# [14:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ac98c7023f6 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 793860, part 2 - Remove JSOP_ENUMELEM. r=luke.
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# [14:49] <firebot> JSOP_GETFUNNS which has not been used for some time). r=luke.
# [14:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/327a6af06942 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 948647, part 3 - Change js_ErrorToException to return true iff cx->throwing was set, and document the convention. r=Waldo.
# [14:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d468e098e39 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 793860, part 0c - Declare some accidentally undeclared variables. r=ahuang.
# [14:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e9e2d0e72c3 - masaya iseki - Bug 930565 - Improve constant folding around addition when at least one operand is not a string or number literal. r=jorendorff,r=luke.
# [14:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1c997b8c052 - Christian Holler - Bug 950474 - Handle OOM in getOrCreateMatchResultTemplateObject. r=h4writer
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# [15:03] <mdas> anyone here familiar with how to pull in a file from a MIT Licensed project into m-c?
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# [15:04] <padenot> yeah, you ask gerv, he tells you whether it's ok, and then you modify about:license, and hop
# [15:04] <padenot> mdas: ^
# [15:04] <mdas> padenot: ah, great, I happened to needinfo him. Thanks!
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# [15:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bac23ed0f7f8 - Bruce Sun - Bug 947856 - Mute the background content audio channel when playing any foreground normal video channel. r=mchen
# [15:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/41fc2afc8465 - Alexandros Chronopoulos - Bug 911482 - Perform audio downmix inside AudioStream class. r=rillian
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# [15:07] <Ms2ger> ehsan++
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# [15:18] <annevk> When would matchMedia return null?
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# [15:19] <@bz> annevk: in gecko?
# [15:19] <@bz> annevk: in a display:none iframe
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# [15:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/754f84394e6a - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 73af05ec57fc (bug 950503) for build bustage on a CLOSED TREE
# [15:44] <RyanVM> ehsan: ping
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# [15:44] <@ehsan> RyanVM: hi
# [15:44] <RyanVM> ehsan: so apparently B2G desktop builds don't build in unified mode
# [15:44] <@ehsan> RyanVM: yes
# [15:44] <RyanVM> news to me
# [15:44] <@ehsan> it's known-ish
# [15:44] <RyanVM> was rather confusing that your unified patch broke and opt and debug build...
# [15:45] <RyanVM> makes it rather non-obvious IMO
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# [15:45] <@ehsan> this is true for all b2g builds I think
# [15:45] <RyanVM> ehsan: I don't think so
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# [15:45] <RyanVM> I know i saw libpng building in unified mode once upon a time
# [15:45] <RyanVM> so unless that was changed...
# [15:46] <@ehsan> RyanVM: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=946576#c11
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# [15:46] <@ehsan> let me file that bug
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# [15:47] <RyanVM> ehsan: interesting and thanks
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# [15:48] <@ehsan> np
# [15:48] <@ehsan> RyanVM: has anybody complained about --enable-warnings-as-errors not working on windows recently btw?
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# [15:48] <@ehsan> bsmith backed out a bunch of my patches claiming that
# [15:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a05c70a52b9b - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 946877 - Don't PGO nsDebugImpl.cpp, to see if that aids stackwalking around NS_OOM_ABORT, r=ted a=lsblakk
# [15:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ehsan: bsmith did
# [15:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/79e2ad13871d - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 946799 part B - fix the blocklist annotation to use the correct size, r=dmajor a=lsblakk
# [15:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/591ed7a98ced - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 946799 part A - annotate the location and size of the breakpad memory reservation, r=ted a=lsblakk
# [15:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> this morning
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# [15:49] <RyanVM> ehsan: first I've heard of it
# [15:49] <@ehsan> Tomcat|sheriffduty: well, I'm trying to understand his claim, because the tinderbox, our source code and my local builds all suggest that he's wrong
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# [15:49] <RyanVM> ehsan: also not sure why we backed out over it since Werror is opt-in
# [15:49] <RyanVM> but heyy
# [15:49] <@ehsan> and he provided 0 useful infromation on the bug ;)
# [15:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ehsan: yeah he was asked if its a local problem
# [15:50] <@ehsan> which it was, according to him!
# [15:50] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> but he said he could reproduce it with clobber etc
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# [15:50] <@ehsan> ok, I'll reland that stuff later today
# [15:50] <@ehsan> and will let him sort out his local builds
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# [16:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8dfe78bce537 - Olli Pettay - Bug 936409 - Intermittent failure | chrome://mochitests/content/browser/dom/indexedDB/test/browser_perwindow_privateBrowsing.js | Test timed out. r=ehsan, a=test-only
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# [16:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: red on your push to b2g-i
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# [16:05] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: you merging m-c back around soon?
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# [16:05] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: oh, that's not real bustage
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# [16:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
# [16:06] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: when you see "fatal error LNK1000: Internal error during IMAGE::Pass1 " on a Windwos build, look at the slave health
# [16:06] <RyanVM> almost certainly "slave was disconnected mid-build previously on this branch"
# [16:06] <RyanVM> c;r and move on :)
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# [16:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
# [16:07] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: which is exactly what tha twas
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# [16:10] <@bz> why do we still have --disable-tests?
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# [16:10] <RyanVM> bz: because people (myself included) still use it?
# [16:11] <@bz> mmm
# [16:11] <@bz> But none of our automation does
# [16:11] <@bz> right?
# [16:11] <RyanVM> bz: I would hope not!
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# [16:11] <@bz> Including the actual builds we ship
# [16:11] <@bz> Seems like a footgun for build failures....
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# [16:13] <RyanVM> bz: yes
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# [16:27] <@smaug> arggh, try is closed
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# [16:27] <RyanVM> smaug: one sec
# [16:28] <RyanVM> smaug: fixed, sorry
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# [16:28] <@smaug> RyanVM: thanks
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# [16:31] <nemo> heh. so I enabled skia for content/canvas (and layers accel which skia seems to really need)
# [16:32] <nemo> every time I hit that new fancy menu in my test profile, the ☰ trigram...
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# [16:32] <nemo> it crashes
# [16:32] <nemo> had to reenable the menu bar to update the test profile :D
# [16:33] <nemo> heh. crashed accessing the crash too
# [16:33] * nemo tries a new nightly
# [16:34] <nemo> nope. new nightly just as crash
# [16:34] <nemo> oh well
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# [16:35] <nemo> haha. disabled layers acceleration and now it just crashes at startup
# [16:36] <nemo> disabling skia for content saves it
# [16:37] <nemo> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/18d757e9-d199-4439-9ce3-417b42131216 crash on startup with layers acceleration disabled
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# [16:37] <nemo> ah. same as the one w/ accel enabled
# [16:37] <nemo> on touching the menu
# [16:38] <@bz> grrr
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# [16:55] <Waldo> nemo: just Alt+F and such will still open the old menu bar
# [16:56] <nemo> Waldo: yeah, I keep forgetting. but on my normal profile I just reenabled the bar
# [16:56] <nemo> I'd gotten used to the menu button but this new one is a bit much
# [16:56] * Waldo doesn't use the mouse enough to have been stymied by that change, or indeed by most of australis/etc. to the extent it's more-hidden
# [16:57] <nemo> too hard to find stuff in the new menu
# [16:57] <nemo> but. old menu bar works well enough
# [16:57] <nemo> I'd kinda missed it anyway
# [16:57] <nemo> for example, View->Page Style->No Style - very helpful w/ web dev or a hopelessly broken layout
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# [17:00] <nemo> seems to me most people don't need customisation, and those who do, prob appreciated being able to position icons, but. meh.
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# [17:30] <@khuey|caltrain> nightly seems awfully crashy layely
# [17:30] <@khuey|caltrain> *lately
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# [17:31] <till> khuey|caltrain: I blame mccr8 and the ICC work, based on the stacks
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# [17:38] <RyanVM> khuey|caltrain: note to self: stick with this older build for awhile :P
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# [17:40] <@smaug> till: hmm, really
# [17:40] <@smaug> till: what kind of stacks?
# [17:40] <till> smaug: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6640cc2e-3ebd-4d5d-a525-8ea7b2131213
# [17:41] <@smaug> (the interesting icc stuff hasn't landed yet)
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# [17:41] <till> smaug: all the crashes I saw recently had SnowWhiteKiller::~SnowWhiteKiller() as the previous-to-last frame
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# [17:41] <till> smaug: should I file a bug on that?
# [17:42] <till> smaug: I have about a dozen different stacks, I think
# [17:42] <@smaug> till: SnowWhite is on the stack pretty much always when an object is deleted
# [17:42] <@smaug> and snowwhite has nothing to do with icc
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# [17:43] <till> smaug: well, I wasn't assuming that ICC is responsible *per se*, as I'm aware of it not being enabled and all
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# [17:43] <till> smaug: I was, however, assuming that the preparatory patches for it might be related, as I never saw this many crashes with CC-related frames on the stack before
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# [17:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b14f5674b64b - David Burns - Bug 942730 - allow Marionette to type into input type=number fields; r=mdas
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# [17:44] <@smaug> till: yeah, could be
# [17:44] <@smaug> and there is mccr8
# [17:44] <till> ah
# [17:44] <mccr8> uh oh
# [17:44] <till> mccr8: ping
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# [17:44] <till> heh
# [17:44] <mccr8> till: pong
# [17:44] <@smaug> till: if you have other stacks, please give the crash ids
# [17:45] <till> mccr8: over the last few days, I have experienced a lot of crashes with CC-related frames high up on the stack
# [17:45] <@smaug> till: are they all about nsDOMFocusEvent ?
# [17:45] <till> smaug: yes
# [17:46] <@smaug> since there have been changes to delayed focus handling
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# [17:46] <till> mccr8: specifically, the last meaningful frame is always nsDOMFocusEvent::~nsDOMFocusEvent(), the one after that always SnowWhiteKiller::~SnowWhiteKiller(), and then some other CC stuff
# [17:46] <till> ah
# [17:46] <@smaug> I think mrbkap landed the patch
# [17:46] <till> smaug: so this might not be related to the CC changes at all?
# [17:46] <@smaug> though, some version was backed out
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# [17:47] <till> smaug: can you give me a bug number?
# [17:47] <mccr8> till: if SnowWhiteKiller is on the stack, then it is probably just related to the destructor for that class
# [17:47] <mccr8> not really the CC
# [17:47] <mccr8> till: all CCed objects are deleted by the SnowWhiteKiller
# [17:47] <till> mccr8: I see, ok
# [17:47] <@smaug> trying to remember the bug
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# [17:48] <RyanVM> smaug: if it's bug 933483, it's backed out
# [17:48] <RyanVM> (again today tooO)
# [17:48] <RyanVM> still leaking in mochitest-bc
# [17:48] <till> khuey|caltrain: I blame mrbkap and his changes to delayed focus handling ;)
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# [17:48] <@smaug> RyanVM: ah, right
# [17:48] <till> RyanVM: was it in the last few nightlies?
# [17:48] <RyanVM> till: no
# [17:49] <till> mmh, then that can't be it
# [17:49] <RyanVM> the reland attempt was this morning on b-i
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# [17:49] <till> mccr8: for posterity, here's one of the crashes: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/0a78a7d2-135f-4ed0-8b2b-2a7d92131213
# [17:49] <@khuey|caltrain> till: mmm
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# [17:49] <@khuey|caltrain> till: I think it started before that
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# [17:49] <till> khuey|caltrain: oh, by now I'm out of people to blame ;)
# [17:49] * Ms2ger blames till
# [17:50] * till humbly accepts the blame
# [17:50] * RyanVM blames Ms2ger
# [17:50] * RyanVM needs to stay in practice
# [17:50] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, hey, till accepted the blame!
# [17:50] <till> RyanVM++
# [17:50] <RyanVM> dammit
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# [17:50] <RyanVM> Ms2ger--
# [17:50] <Ms2ger> :D
# [17:50] <RyanVM> :P
# [17:50] <mccr8> hmm, yeah the class doesn't even have an explicit constructor. odd.
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# [17:51] <ejpbruel> khuey: ping
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# [17:53] <@smaug> till: so 20131214 looks like the first build
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# [17:53] <@smaug> based on crash stats
# [17:54] <till> smaug: no: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6640cc2e-3ebd-4d5d-a525-8ea7b2131213
# [17:54] <@smaug> khuey|away: do you have some crash ids?
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# [17:54] <@smaug> crash stat UI is just super odd
# [17:54] <till> smaug: for me, it started with the 20131213 build, but I hadn't updated for a few days before that
# [17:55] <ejpbruel> bz: ping?
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# [17:55] <till> yes, I saw way too few crashes for this signature there, too
# [17:55] <@smaug> 2013120908
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# [17:55] <@smaug> no
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# [17:56] <till> smaug: my last known-good build is 1205, iirc
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# [17:57] <mccr8> hmm, I guess if we're really trying to destruct a NULL object, it could be my fault somehow. ;)
# [17:57] <@bz> ehsan: what?
# [17:57] <@ehsan> bz: ?
# [17:57] <@bz> gps: ping; we have failure from your landing....
# [17:57] <@bz> ehsan: not failing the build
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# [17:57] <@bz> ehsan: that's broken
# [17:57] <@ehsan> bz: I know!
# [17:58] <@bz> ehsan: _should_ fail the build!
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# [17:58] <@ehsan> yep, hence the bug
# [17:58] <mccr8> till: yeah bug 937766 landed on 12/6 so that is a little suspicious... though it woudln't have been in the build until 1207
# [17:58] <@bz> ehsan: can you file a separate bug on that?
# [17:58] <@ehsan> sure
# [17:58] <@bz> ehsan: in that we should be catching and reporting nicely the MethodNotNewObjectError
# [17:58] <@ehsan> bz: where does that go? Build Config?
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# [17:58] <@bz> ehsan: please!
# [17:58] <@ehsan> k
# [17:59] <till> mccr8: I ran the 1205 build until the 13th, so I can't say anything about the builds between those
# [17:59] <@bz> ehsan: and blocking 928195
# [17:59] <@bz> ehsan: and assign to jps?
# [17:59] <mccr8> till: ah ok.
# [17:59] <@ehsan> who's jps? :P
# [17:59] <@bz> ehsan: (and I guess cc glandium)
# [17:59] <@ehsan> will do
# [17:59] <@bz> er, gps
# [17:59] <@bz> you know whom I mean. ;)
# [17:59] <@ehsan> I sure do :D
# [18:00] <@bz> I'll fix the error-reporting, but it'll still be an error
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# [18:00] <@ehsan> yeah, they're separate issues, you're right
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# [18:01] <@ehsan> bz: bug 950736
# [18:02] <@bz> ehsan: thank you
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# [18:02] <@ehsan> np
# [18:02] <@ehsan> bz: (fwiw I hit this yesterday when my class was not wrapper-cached yet)
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# [18:03] <@bz> ehsan: yeah, makes sense.
# [18:03] <@bz> ehsan: Failing here is right.
# [18:03] <@ehsan> yeah
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# [18:04] <@ehsan> I was actually amazed that the webidl codegen caught me there
# [18:04] <@bz> We try. ;)
# [18:04] <@ehsan> took me a few mins to spot my mistake
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# [18:04] * @dolske stares at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8348105&action=diff
# [18:04] <ejpbruel> bz: is it safe to pass store an ErrorResult on a Runnable, and then call Throw on it from another thread?
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# [18:04] <ejpbruel> -pass
# [18:04] <@ehsan> bz: why do we have mozMatchSelector?
# [18:05] <@dolske> adding a sleep() for a test orange?
# [18:05] <@bz> ehsan: because there was no spec. :(
# [18:05] <@bz> ehsan: so the cases that are sane look like this:
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# [18:05] <@ehsan> bz: webcompat?
# [18:05] <@bz> except MethodNotNewObjectError, err:
# [18:05] <@bz> raise TypeError("%s being returned from non-NewObject method or property %s.%s" %
# [18:05] <@bz> (err.typename,
# [18:05] <@bz> self.descriptor.interface.identifier.name,
# [18:05] <@bz> self.idlNode.identifier.name))
# [18:05] <@dolske> I guess it's temporary.
# [18:05] * @bz will make this case do something like that too....
# [18:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1559f81806fb - Michal Novotny - Bug 926069 - CacheFile must not create new entry when key is a hash, r=honzab
# [18:05] <@bz> ehsan: well, we wanted to add the API
# [18:05] <@ehsan> bz: (sounds good on the codegen thing)
# [18:05] <@bz> ehsan: but did it prefixed because the spec was being bikeshedded....
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# [18:06] <@smaug> hopefully bz doesn't have to answer to the question about why we have mozMatchSelector too many times
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# [18:06] <@ehsan> smaug: oh, are we unprefixing it?
# [18:06] <@bz> smaug: lol
# [18:07] <@bz> ehsan: even if we do, we can't remove the prefixed version
# [18:07] <@ehsan> bz: webcompat?
# [18:07] <@bz> ehsan: sorta
# [18:07] <@ehsan> sorta? ;)
# [18:07] <@bz> http://code.jquery.com/jquery-1.10.2.js
# [18:07] <@bz> Line 1644
# [18:07] <@smaug> ehsan: I just asked the same question in #content
# [18:07] <@ehsan> argh :(
# [18:07] <@bz> And then line 1800
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# [18:08] <@bz> ehsan: where jQuery will fall back to a slow manual impl if one of those prefixed ones doesn't exist
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# [18:08] <@bz> ehsan: And they couldn't win, because the standard name might end up "matches", not "matchesSelector" (!)
# [18:08] <@ehsan> bz: that is so silly of them :(
# [18:08] * @bz did say bikeshedding
# [18:09] <@ehsan> I don't know what to say!
# [18:09] <@bz> This is why we stopped doing prefixes.
# [18:09] <@bz> ehsan: "Never again"? ;)
# [18:09] <@ehsan> yep
# [18:09] <@ehsan> haha
# [18:09] <@bz> ehsan: shipping prefixed APIs, that is
# [18:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/40ca2354d194 - Jim Mathies - Bug 920952 - Flush metro test harness output. r=bbondy
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# [18:09] * @bz semi-Godwins the discussion
# [18:10] <@bz> ejpbruel: sorry, still thinking
# [18:10] <@bz> ejpbruel: so this ErroResult is a member of the runnable?
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# [18:10] <ejpbruel> bz: yeah. to give you some context: i want to add a member function to the Worker interface that can throw
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# [18:10] <ejpbruel> bz: that function creates a runnable, which runs in the worker thread, and calls a function that takes an ErrorResult
# [18:11] <@bz> so throwing an nsresult on ErrorResult should be ok
# [18:11] <ejpbruel> bz: right
# [18:11] <@bz> on a background thread
# [18:11] <@bz> Don't throw an actual JS exception on it, obviously!
# [18:11] <ejpbruel> bz: i just realised that this won't work though, since the function returns while the runnable is still queued
# [18:11] <@bz> In fact, we should add threadsafety asserts for that stuff
# [18:11] <@bz> mmm
# [18:12] <ejpbruel> bz: could I create a ErrorResult manually and then return false based on how its set?
# [18:12] <Ms2ger> bz, even Hitler wouldn't bikeshed about that?
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# [18:13] <@bz> Ms2ger: no, the "never again" line.
# [18:13] <Ms2ger> Oh
# [18:13] <@bz> ejpbruel: I'm not sure what you mean.
# [18:13] <ejpbruel> bz: ok, so
# [18:14] <Ms2ger> On an unrelated note
# [18:14] <ejpbruel> bz: when the worker's event loop calls Run on the Runnable
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# [18:14] <ejpbruel> bz: it actually ignores the result
# [18:14] <@bz> ejpbruel: ok
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# [18:14] <ejpbruel> bz: but the function called by the Runnable still expects an ErrorResult param
# [18:14] <Ms2ger> I feel like strangling the person who created a tab-separated data file, with 7 of the tabs replaced by spaces
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# [18:14] <ejpbruel> bz: so can I just create an ErrorResult, pass that, and then ignore it?
# [18:15] <@bz> ejpbruel: If the idea is to ignore the exception, then yes
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# [18:15] <ejpbruel> bz: alright, cool. thanks :)
# [18:15] <@bz> ejpbruel: no problem
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# [18:17] <@bz> ehsan: did you see this on Windows or on Linux?
# [18:18] <@bz> ehsan: "this" == "build continues"?
# [18:18] <@ehsan> bz: mac
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# [18:18] <till> ejpbruel: ping
# [18:18] <ejpbruel> till: pong
# [18:18] <till> ejpbruel: I hear you're working on multiple globals in workers?
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# [18:18] <@ehsan> bz: the codegen itself surely fails, it's just that the rest of the build proceeds
# [18:19] <ejpbruel> till: yeah
# [18:19] <till> ejpbruel: that is most excellent!
# [18:19] <till> ejpbruel: can you tell me where I can track this work, and which form it'll take?
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# [18:19] <ejpbruel> till: sure
# [18:19] <till> ejpbruel: i.e., how one will be able to create globals
# [18:20] <ejpbruel> till: so the underlying goal here is to make workers debuggable
# [18:20] <till> ejpbruel: ah, right
# [18:20] <ejpbruel> till: you probably know that the debugger API requires the debugger to run in its own global
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# [18:20] <ejpbruel> till: right now I'm working on some code that allows you to import a debugger script into a worker from its parent or the main thread
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# [18:20] <ejpbruel> till: that will lazily create a debugger global in which the script will be evaluated
# [18:20] <till> ejpbruel: great. And yes, I do know that
# [18:21] <till> I see
# [18:21] <ejpbruel> till: the debugger global is also where we will store the debugger specific API, since we don't have xpconnect wrappers in workers atm
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# [18:21] <ejpbruel> till: the main challenge is to come up with a safe API without xpconnect
# [18:21] <ejpbruel> till: anyway, the debugger will also need to load commonjs modules
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# [18:21] <ejpbruel> till: to part of that debugger specific API will be to create additional globals and eval code in them
# [18:22] <ejpbruel> till: so we'll have a main worker global, main debugger global, and additional debugger globals
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# [18:22] <till> ejpbruel: I see, ok
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# [18:22] <@khuey> smaug: no
# [18:22] <@bz> ehsan: ok, me too
# [18:22] <ejpbruel> till: the bug is 757133
# [18:22] <ejpbruel> till: is there a specific reason you're interested in this?
# [18:23] <@bz> ehsan: callback Bar = void(ImageData arg);
# [18:23] <@bz> ehsan: TypeError: ImageData being passed as an argument to Bar but is not wrapper cached, so can't be reliably converted to a JS object.
# [18:23] <till> ejpbruel: yes, bug 932402
# [18:23] <@bz> ehsan: look good?
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# [18:23] <@bz> Alternately
# [18:23] <@bz> callback interface Bar { void doSomething(ImageData arg); };
# [18:24] <@bz> TypeError: ImageData being passed as an argument to Bar.doSomething but is not wrapper cached, so can't be reliably converted to a JS object.
# [18:24] <till> ejpbruel: so I need a way to make this script-accessible, but I can deal with that on top of your work
# [18:24] <ejpbruel> till: yeah, looks like it
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# [18:25] <ejpbruel> till: we could expose the part of the debugger API dealing with creating globals and evaluating scripts to ordinary workers as well, perhaps
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# [18:26] <till> ejpbruel: I've been thinking about that, too
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# [18:26] <ejpbruel> tilll: if we do that, it could probably land on its own
# [18:26] <till> ejpbruel: there are a few features I want to experiment with in the ShumwayWorker and then talk to people about standardizing them
# [18:26] <ejpbruel> till: I'm currently working on a prototype to load debugger scripts. once i get that to work, i could focus on landing just that part.
# [18:27] <ejpbruel> till: if that helps you ofc
# [18:27] <till> ejpbruel: do you already have the global-creation part?
# [18:27] <@bz> gps: can you reproduce the build-not-stopping thing/
# [18:27] <@bz> gps: ?
# [18:27] <ejpbruel> till: nope
# [18:27] <@bz> gps: if not, it may be mac-specific...
# [18:27] <ejpbruel> till: that will be my next step
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# [18:27] <till> ejpbruel: that's the part that I'm interested in :)
# [18:27] <ejpbruel> till: but its part of what I need to do anyway, so I'm happy to prioritise it
# [18:27] <till> ejpbruel: that'd be fantastic!
# [18:28] <ejpbruel> till: that only makes sense though if we can get people to agree to expose it to normal worker scripts
# [18:28] <ejpbruel> tilll: otherwise i first need a place to expose those functions (i.e. the debugger script)
# [18:28] <till> ejpbruel: that's where the ShumwayWorker comes in
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# [18:28] <till> ejpbruel: we will have our own worker type for shumway anyway, and I can expose it there
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# [18:29] <till> ejpbruel: it's a bit of a sad story, really
# [18:29] <ejpbruel> till: hehe
# [18:29] <ejpbruel> till: so a shumway worker will be a specialisation similar to ChromeWorker, then?
# [18:29] <@ehsan> bz: looks great
# [18:30] <@bz> ehsan: Good
# [18:30] * @bz posts patch
# [18:30] <ejpbruel> till: building that too would be a bit of a sidetrack, but i guess I could look into that
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# [18:30] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: ping
# [18:30] <till> ejpbruel: no worries, I'm working on that part: bug 949992
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# [18:31] <till> ejpbruel: and yes, it's exactly the same type of specialization as the ChromeWorker
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# [18:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2151f4603dc - David Keeler - bug 887321 - initial OCSP stapling telemetry r=briansmith
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# [18:40] <Ms2ger> ehsan, ack
# [18:40] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: out of curiosity, where you around yesterday when bsmith backed me out?
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# [18:41] <Ms2ger> Where? :)
# [18:41] <@ehsan> dunno on IRC for example? :)
# [18:41] <Ms2ger> But yes, I was
# [18:41] <@ehsan> you reopened the bugs
# [18:41] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: I'm trying to understand _why_ he backed me out
# [18:41] <@ehsan> any idea what the problem was/
# [18:41] <@ehsan> ?
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# [18:42] <Ms2ger> ehsan, https://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/3787889
# [18:43] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: huh, thanks!
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# [18:44] <@ehsan> it's interesting that I don't get this locally
# [18:45] <@smaug> which version of python is required these days?
# [18:45] <@smaug> 2.7 ?
# [18:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yes
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# [18:45] <Ms2ger> ehsan, hmm, maybe he's got defined(PR_LOGGING) && defined (DEBUG_SOURCE_TRACE) on
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# [18:46] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: could be
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# [18:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9cd353bda680 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 950736 - Don't use target of included file to perform WebIDL codegen; r=ted
# [18:47] <@bsmedberg> where does mozglue live on Linux?
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# [18:48] <Ms2ger> In the gutter?
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# [18:49] <@ted> bsmedberg: pretty sure libmozalloc.so
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# [18:51] <@bz> gps: the patch you checked in doesn't seem to help?
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# [18:51] <@bsmedberg> ted: apparently it's statically linked into either libxul.so or anything that needs it
# [18:52] <@bsmedberg> ted: the HashBytes definition is in libxul.so anyway
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# [18:52] <gps> bz: it /should/. did you Makefile.in get regenerated?
# [18:52] <gps> bz: I mean Makefile
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# [18:52] <@bz> gps: checking
# [18:52] <@ted> bsmedberg: ah
# [18:53] <@bz> gps: yes, it did
# [18:53] <gps> bz: it fixed the problem for me!
# [18:53] <@bz> gps: want to see some output?
# [18:54] * @bz pastebins
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# [18:54] <mdas> lsblakk: not sure if you're the right person to ping, but I have a small batch of test-only patches I'd like to land in mozilla-aurora. Do I need to go through the approval-mozilla-aurora+ process or is a=test-only okay?
# [18:54] <gps> bz: rm codegen.* from the objdir
# [18:55] <@bz> gps: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3790633
# [18:55] <@bz> gps: hmm
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# [18:55] <@bz> gps: no, same thing
# [18:56] <@bz> uh, what?
# [18:56] <@bz> There is no codegen.done or codegen.json in my objdir
# [18:56] <@bz> even though this thing claims the build is done
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# [18:56] <gps> bz: there should be a dom/bindings/codegen.{done,json,pp}
# [18:57] <@bz> there were
# [18:57] <@bz> I deleted them
# [18:57] <@bz> then built in dom/bindings
# [18:57] <gps> this makes no sense
# [18:57] <@bz> which gave the python exception (4x!)
# [18:57] <@bz> And then claimed "Your build was successful!"
# [18:57] <gps> i was able to repro before patch and the patch fixes it for me
# [18:57] <@bz> But did not recreate those files
# [18:57] <gps> because make ignores failures when processing targets for "include"
# [18:58] <gps> "it's a feature, not a bug"
# [18:58] * @bz tries some things
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# [18:58] <@bz> so
# [18:58] <@bz> make -C ../obj-firefox/dom/bindings/ codegen.done
# [18:58] <@bz> This will correctly throw one exception and stop
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# [18:58] <@bz> and not create any of codegen.{done,json,pp}
# [18:58] <@bz> (?)
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# [18:59] <@bz> make -C ../obj-firefox/dom/bindings/ codegen.pp says:
# [18:59] <@bz> the single webidl error
# [18:59] <@bz> then:
# [18:59] <@bz> make: *** No rule to make target `codegen.pp'. Stop.
# [19:00] <@bz> (?)
# [19:00] <@bz> env MOZCONFIG=`pwd`/.mozconfig-fox ./mach build dom/bindings/ will throw the error 4 times and then claim a succcessful build
# [19:01] <@bz> gps: how were you testing for the problem?
# [19:01] <@bz> gps: that is, how did you trigger an error?
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# [19:01] <gps> bz: I applied that patch in comment #0 that caused codegen failure. I then did a `make clean` and executed `make` to verify I could repro the loop
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# [19:01] <gps> bz: try adding to Makefile.in:
# [19:02] <gps> export:: codegen.done
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# [19:02] <gps> then, `mach build-backend`
# [19:02] <gps> make
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# [19:02] <gps> from dom/bindings
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# [19:02] <@bz> gps: trying
# [19:03] <gps> bz: /usr/bin/make -v
# [19:03] <gps> what version are you running?
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# [19:03] <@bz> ok, so when I do the export:: bit
# [19:03] <@bz> and run make
# [19:04] <@bz> it shows two exceptions and hangs
# [19:04] <@bz> with 100% CPU usage
# [19:04] <gps> that makes no sense
# [19:04] <@bz> GNU Make 3.81
# [19:04] <gps> that's what I'm using
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# [19:04] <@bz> The standard one on Mac
# [19:04] <gps> same here
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# [19:04] <@bz> I mean, I could try clobbering
# [19:04] <@bz> and seeing if that help
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# [19:05] <gps> bz: you shouldn't need to clobber. but you can try
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# [19:05] <@bz> It doesn't help
# [19:05] <@bz> fwiw
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# [19:06] <lsblakk> mdas: a=test-only is fine
# [19:06] <mdas> lsblakk: great, thank you!
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# [19:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c086bb3ae771 - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 950028 - Remove unused js_AddNativeProperty. r=jorendorff
# [19:08] <@bz> gps: can you do me a favor?
# [19:08] <@bz> gps: open dom/webidl/ImageData.webidl
# [19:08] <@bz> gps: remove the last ';
# [19:08] <@bz> gps: ';' in that file
# [19:08] <@bz> gps: see if that also fails the build for you?
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# [19:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f17c4c5f908 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 950506 - Part 1: Rename the LOG macro to DIRECTSHOW_LOG in SourceFilter.cpp
# [19:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7fc3ee2d5eb - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 950506 - Part 2: Build content/media/directshow in unified mode; r=roc
# [19:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/98a4b028c04a - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 950507 - Build content/media/fmp4 in unified mode; r=roc
# [19:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ac40b01fd56b - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 950505 - Build content/media/wmf in unified mode; r=roc
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# [19:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: ping
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# [19:23] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: hi
# [19:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: hey, I'm trying to track down the B2G M2 failure on inbound and wonder if your mediaquery push is related
# [19:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> you don't be chance have a Try link handy, do you?
# [19:24] <@ehsan> hmm
# [19:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32032393&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [19:24] <@ehsan> I did push to try, but don't have the link handy
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# [19:24] <@ehsan> can I dig it up somehow?
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# [19:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: email gone?
# [19:25] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: (note that test_bug595449.html doesn't really examine the code that I touched)
# [19:25] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: email?
# [19:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> you get an email with the link when you push to Try
# [19:25] <@ehsan> oh
# [19:26] <@ehsan> I thought that those emails are dead!
# [19:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nope
# [19:26] <philor> or you can dig through the builds on ftp under your name
# [19:26] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: lol https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=f4ed836c5783 but this won't be useful
# [19:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ouch
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# [19:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: there's a couple patches in the checkin-needed push prior to yours that look possible too
# [19:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> one has a Try link with a busted (and not retriggered) M2 run, go fig
# [19:27] <@ehsan> let me read that test
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# [19:28] <@ehsan> hmm
# [19:28] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: you can back me out if you need to
# [19:29] <@ehsan> but none of those patches look relevant
# [19:29] <@ehsan> this might be coming from the merge :(
# [19:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: I would if it was the only obvious suspect, but I'm not convinced of that
# [19:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I doubt it
# [19:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> we got backlogged by AWS today
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# [19:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so we coalesced :(
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# [19:30] <@ehsan> well
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# [19:30] <@ehsan> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=a1c997b8c052 has a green M2 run
# [19:30] <@ehsan> and then there's the checkin-needed stuff
# [19:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yep...
# [19:30] <@ehsan> my stuff
# [19:30] <@ehsan> and the merge
# [19:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I've got emulator builds going on the two
# [19:30] <@ehsan> and I've looked at everything except for the merge ;)
# [19:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and an M2 regrigger going on the one c-n with a Try run
# [19:30] <@ehsan> oh wait
# [19:31] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: there may be some remote possibility on the text fragment patches are the culprit
# [19:31] <@ehsan> although that would be a huge surprise to me
# [19:31] <@ehsan> given http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/html/content/test/test_bug595449.html?force=1#82
# [19:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i'm also wondering if bug 527201 might somehow
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# [19:32] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: that's a test only change as far as I can tell
# [19:32] <@ehsan> and those test should run after this test
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# [19:32] <@ehsan> because content/ is sorted before parser/ :)
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# [19:33] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: I guess the expedient thing to do is backout all 3 and then re-land the non-guilty ones once the retriggers finish
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# [19:34] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: sure
# [19:34] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: oh
# [19:34] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: if you're backing me out there might be another patch which you should back out first
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# [19:34] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/937692bfbad6
# [19:35] <@ehsan> that touches the code I put in
# [19:35] <@ehsan> thank bz for being fast and awesome ;)
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# [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: fyi, this also looks curious - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32030333&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> retrigger running
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# [19:36] <@ehsan> missing include?
# [19:37] <@ehsan> oh
# [19:37] <@ehsan> it's not a debug build
# [19:37] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I haven't touched js/src in a while, so I proclaim innocence :)
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# [19:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: jorendorff did :)
# [19:38] <@ehsan> boo
# [19:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> don't know why'd we only hit this on a PGO build though
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# [19:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b44d4155293d
# [19:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> looks like the one
# [19:39] <@ehsan> not sure why that is
# [19:39] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I'm stepping out fwiw
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# [19:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: k
# [19:39] <mrbkap> Does b2g-inbound build something different from master?
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# [19:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> "sorta"
# [19:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but not really
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# [19:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mrbkap: you talking about your backout?
# [19:40] <mrbkap> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Yes.
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# [19:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> then no
# [19:40] <@bz> Can you only back out the part of my patch touching ehsan's files? ;)
# [19:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> merges with m-c
# [19:40] <mrbkap> RyanVM|sheriffduty: it's not even itermittant...
# [19:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: I'm leaning towards just backing out the textfragment patch
# [19:40] <@bz> Seriously, though, I can reland as needed, and hg backout is simpler than partial backouts.
# [19:40] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: worksforme!
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# [19:41] <mrbkap> RyanVM|sheriffduty: so either something landed between Friday and when it landed or...
# [19:41] <mrbkap> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I'll try to reproduce again, I guess.
# [19:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mrbkap: b-i, m-c, and Try all use the same code and test slaves
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# [19:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b38e6bb55fc6 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset f278295dd6a0 (bug 946316) for frequent failures in the test it added.
# [19:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2c07abf977a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 01de929d4b85 and b9c5750d818a (bug 943519) for suspicion of causing B2G mochitest-2 failures.
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# [19:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: so we'll see how that goes
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# [19:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3df0585a23a1 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 948128. Add StackArray helper. r=Bas
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# [19:51] <no_gravity> Hello! Is there a way to get an overview of memory usage in firefox like in chromes "heap snapshot"?
# [19:52] <@bz> no_gravity: about:memory to some extent
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# [19:53] <@bz> no_gravity: that doesn't tell you much about what's going on in the JS heap, though
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# [19:53] <@bz> gps: So anything I can get you to help debug this?
# [19:53] <@bz> gps: this just bit reyre too....
# [19:54] <no_gravity> bz: interesting. let me dive into that...
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# [19:56] <@smaug> no_gravity: and if you want to know what kind of objects are alive, cc and gc logs are useful
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# [19:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dbeea0e93b56 - Brian Hackett - Bug 785905 - Build Ion MIR graph off thread, r=jandem.
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# [19:59] <nrc> bz: my Windows builds are failing with WebIDL codegen errors - Can't find regular expression for ... Is it known?
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# [19:59] <@bz> nrc: not offhand
# [19:59] <no_gravity> smaug: i created about 150mb of canvas data. but ff uses 730mb. i would like to find out for what. would those logs help? where are they?
# [19:59] <@bz> nrc: what's the exact error?
# [20:00] <@smaug> no_gravity: hmm, depends on whether you're creating lots of objects
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# [20:00] <@smaug> or just few objects which hold tons of memory
# [20:01] <@bz> no_gravity: How are you determining the 150mb number?
# [20:01] <no_gravity> bz: as i wrote to smaug, i created about 150mb of canvas data. but ff uses 730mb. i would like to find out for what. any idea where to look in about:memory?
# [20:01] <@smaug> what is "canvas data"
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# [20:01] <nrc> bz: just a moment, I need to re-run, lost most of the error messages from scroll
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# [20:02] <no_gravity> bz: 300 canvases x 300px x 300px x 4 bytes ~ 150mb.
# [20:02] <no_gravity> smaug: canvas elements containing calculated data.
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# [20:03] <@bz> nrc: the fact that it continued past the error is known..... :(
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# [20:04] <nrc> bz: I think I am getting the same error for every IDL file, it will carry on for hours
# [20:04] <@bz> no_gravity: about:memory might say something about what's using the memory
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# [20:04] <@bz> nrc: that's .... odd
# [20:04] <no_gravity> bz, smaug: this is how the about:memory summary looks like: http://pastebin.com/Bx20d7dY
# [20:04] <no_gravity> can you see, which number is the relevant one?
# [20:04] <nrc> bz: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3790960
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# [20:04] <@bz> no_gravity: that's not using 700+ mb of memory
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# [20:04] <@bz> no_gravity: that's using 700+mb of address space
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# [20:05] <@bz> but only 180MB of that is in memory
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# [20:05] <no_gravity> bz: and the rest on disk?
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# [20:05] <@bz> no_gravity: or not actually allocated
# [20:05] <@bz> no_gravity: just mapped
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# [20:06] <@bz> no_gravity: what about the tree?
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# [20:06] <nrc> bz: and Python stack trace: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3790961
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# [20:06] <@bz> no_gravity: from about:memory ?
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# [20:06] <@bz> nrc: uh
# [20:06] <@bz> nrc: Totally not known
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# [20:06] <nrc> :-(
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# [20:07] <@bz> nrc: anything before the stack?
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# [20:07] <no_gravity> bz: that contains a ton of private data
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# [20:07] <@bz> oh, I see
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# [20:08] <@bz> nrc: what do you have on line 3448 ?
# [20:08] <@bz> nrc: and did you recently change python versions or something?
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# [20:08] <nrc> bz: I haven't changed anything recently, other than updating m-c (started yesterday)
# [20:09] <@bz> nrc: are you willing to bisect or something?
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# [20:09] <@bz> because the source clearly has a regexp on line 3448, right?
# [20:09] <nrc> just a minute...
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# [20:10] <nrc> bz: yes, yes it does: r'(-?(([0-9]+\.[0-9]*|[0-9]*\.[0-9]+)([Ee][+-]?[0-9]+)?|[0-9]+[Ee][+-]?[0-9]+|Infinity))|NaN'
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# [20:10] <nrc> bz: I'll try to bisect...
# [20:11] <@bz> nrc: thanks
# [20:11] <@bz> nrc: this is weird
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# [20:12] <jviereck> if I make a comment in a bug and outline a possible implementation, should I request "information needed" from someone?
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# [20:14] <@bz> jviereck: what info is needed?
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# [20:14] <jviereck> bz: if the design for the fix makes sense, in particular this idea: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=950797#c1
# [20:15] <@bz> jviereck: Sure, if you have someone in particular whose opinion you wat
# [20:15] <@bz> er, want
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# [20:17] <jviereck> bz: I would like someone give me input on this one, but I don't know who is good to put in there. is gavin a good person to ask for this?
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# [20:23] <@gavin> jviereck: I'm a little unsure about the "need to change autocomplete APIs" bit
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# [20:23] <@gavin> I thought that value was already exposed, or could just be tracked on the input side
# [20:23] <@gavin> autocomplete APIs are a mess so it would be nice to avoid having to touch them
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# [20:25] <jviereck> gavin: the autocomplete.xml implementation only knows that the text value has changed, but it does not know it's origin. E.g. the textValue might be changed in the autocomplete.xml due to a completion (in that case we want to track it) or due to a different scenario, in which the developer calls autocompleteInput.setTextValue("foo")
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# [20:27] <@gavin> jviereck: you should try talking to marco about it, he's probably closer to it
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# [20:28] <@gavin> mak, he's in Italy
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# [20:46] <@dbaron> Assertion failure: !analysisContext->isExceptionPending(), at /home/dbaron/builds/ssd/mozilla-central/mozilla/js/src/jit/IonBuilder.cpp:3871
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# [20:47] <Ms2ger> That rings a bell
# [20:47] <@bz> hmm
# [20:47] <@bz> we have no tracking flags for b2g-26?
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# [20:48] <@ehsan|away> RyanVM|sheriffduty: did you find the culprit?
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# [20:48] <Ms2ger> bz, I think we might only merge when it's on beta
# [20:48] <@ehsan> bz: koi+?
# [20:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: status-b2g-v1.2
# [20:49] <@bz> hmm
# [20:49] <@bz> I see
# [20:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan|away: I went with the textfragment patch. *fingers crossed*
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# [20:49] <@ehsan> ok
# [20:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: koi+ for blockers
# [20:50] * @bz requests more approvals
# [20:50] <nbp> AppProtocolHandler.h:32: error: 'dom' is not a member of 'mozilla'
# [20:50] <@bz> I actually just need approvals
# [20:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> there is a b2g26 approval flag as well, but koi+ is a better bet
# [20:50] <@bz> plus tracking if people care about it
# [20:50] <@bz> status-b2g18: affected
# [20:50] <@bz> status-b2g-v1.1hd: affected
# [20:50] <@bz> status-b2g-v1.2: affected
# [20:50] <nbp> bz: ^ any idea how I could get that with a B2G build with GGC enabled?
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# [20:50] <@bz> So maybe this is already tracked
# [20:50] <@bz> nbp: someone wrote buggy code?
# [20:51] <nbp> bz: since Friday, and it work for non-GGC builds
# [20:51] <@bz> nbp: e.g. if you look at that file....
# [20:51] <@bz> nbp: where is AppInfo declared?
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# [20:51] <@bz> And wtf is it including AppInfoBinding????
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# [20:52] <@bz> Oh, AppInfo is a dictionary
# [20:52] <@bz> hrm
# [20:52] <@bz> That should work, then
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# [20:52] <@bz> Though I'd have forward-declared it here...
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# [20:53] <@bz> What does your .i look like?
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# [20:53] <@bz> What does your AppInfoBinding.h look like?
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# [20:53] <nbp> AppProtocolHandler.h:32: error: 'dom' is not a member of 'mozilla'
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# [20:53] <nbp> oops
# [20:53] <fabrice> nbp: what?
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# [20:54] <nbp> bz: where is it supposed to be?
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# [20:54] <@bz> nbp: if your tree is recent, $objdir/dist/include/mozilla/dom/AppInfoBinding.h
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# [20:55] <nbp> fabrice: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3791232
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# [20:56] <nbp> bz: I don't have it (might be the clobber which is running automatically)
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# [20:57] <@bz> nbp: could be
# [20:57] <@bz> nbp: the other option is $objdir/dom/bindings/AppInfoBinding.h
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# [20:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5e31e19fb269 - Jared Wein - Bug 931891 - Backed out bug 887515 and the followups (bug 896291, 909662, 896896). r=ttaubert, a=lsblakk, ba=bsmedberg
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# [20:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: no need for the b2g28 request
# [20:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> b2g28 = aurora for this cycle
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# [20:59] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok. What about b2g26 requests?
# [20:59] <nbp> bz: I have it in objdir/dist/include/mozilla/dom/AppInfoBinding.h for the non-GGC build.
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# [20:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: see my PM
# [20:59] <@bz> Also, which of the b2g26 trees do I need?
# [20:59] * @bz looks
# [20:59] <nbp> bz: I cannot find it either in objdir/dom/bindings/AppInfoBinding.h for the moment, I making a clean build to make sure.
# [20:59] <@bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: not seeing it?
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# [21:00] <nbp> bz: but it clobbers automatically when the compilation fails, and this error is from the systemd log :/
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# [21:01] <nbp> bz: Apparently it is not generated.
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# [21:01] <@bz> nbp: that seems .. odd
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# [21:04] <@ehsan> vlad: ping
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# [21:05] <vlad> ehsan: png
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# [21:06] <vlad> +o
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# [21:06] <@ehsan> vlad: are you working on winrm?
# [21:06] <nbp> bz: oh, apparently I have a mozconfig failure which is not stopping the build.
# [21:06] <vlad> ehsan: define "working".. I have it in what I think is a working state
# [21:06] <vlad> ehsan: I've been using it on all of my windows machines for a while now
# [21:06] <@ehsan> vlad: ok so here's the sad story
# [21:06] <vlad> and I fixed what I think was the issue identified on the build machines when it was being tested
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# [21:07] <lsblakk> RyanVM|sheriffduty: beta approvals done
# [21:07] * vlad gets the tissues ready
# [21:07] <@ehsan> vlad: I had a patch on try during the weekend which failed mozbuild generation on windows during the weekend
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# [21:07] <@ehsan> (for reasons that I wont get into right now, suffice it to say, windows path name max limits)
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# [21:07] <nbp> bz: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3791315
# [21:07] <@ehsan> vlad: that failure happens as the very first thing after configure is done
# [21:08] <vlad> ehsan: see also bug 950742; carry on
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# [21:08] <nbp> bz: I will investigate ;)
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# [21:08] <@ehsan> vlad: and my try builds took from anywhere between half an hour to an hour to fail!
# [21:08] <nbp> bz: thanks
# [21:08] <@ehsan> which means we're wasting that much time on every single try push on windows at least
# [21:08] <@ehsan> a large offender was rm -rf build
# [21:08] <vlad> that's incredibly sad
# [21:08] <@ehsan> hence my question
# [21:08] <@bz> nbp: good luck!
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# [21:08] <vlad> yes winrm is ready for that usage
# [21:09] <@ehsan> vlad: is there a bug on file for us actually starting to use it?
# [21:09] <vlad> ehsan: bug 727551
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# [21:09] <vlad> ehsan: but what the hell, why is rm -rf build taking *half an hour to an hour*?
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# [21:09] <vlad> none of that makes sense
# [21:09] <vlad> at all
# [21:09] <vlad> ehsan: did you email taras about this?
# [21:09] <@ehsan> vlad: I should I guess
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# [21:10] <vlad> I'm happy to if you want, because I'm a little wtf about it now
# [21:10] <@ehsan> taras: ^
# [21:10] <@ehsan> vlad: I'm already talking to taras about other things :)
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# [21:10] <@ehsan> I'm going to file a bug about this
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# [21:11] <sunfish> does tbpl run jit-tests on ARM?
# [21:11] <@ehsan> vlad: this is the "hour long" build fwiw https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=f95e46b577a4
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# [21:12] <@ehsan> sunfish: don't think so
# [21:12] <@ehsan> sunfish: we cross compile for arm
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# [21:14] <vlad> ehsan: yeah, what taras said; file a bug on this is probably the easiest?
# [21:14] <@ehsan> k
# [21:14] <@ehsan> on it
# [21:14] <vlad> ehsan: taras: also, I just realized.. these are physical machines. We could probably get huge wins if we just got a 128GB SSD for each of them
# [21:15] <@ehsan> vlad: but that costs money :P
# [21:16] <@ehsan> and we'll need people to put those disks in, reinstall the OS etc
# [21:16] <vlad> sure
# [21:16] <@ehsan> there are in fact two simple things we can do to make this better
# [21:16] <@ehsan> let me finish filing this :)
# [21:16] <vlad> how much does two hours of dev time cost? :)
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# [21:16] <@ehsan> it's free I hear ;)
# [21:16] <vlad> also that is a honking long filename please don't do that :)
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# [21:16] <taras> vlad: trust me, swapping disks requires 10 hours of 4 managers :)
# [21:16] <@ehsan> vlad: I cut the file name short to 50chars
# [21:17] <taras> dev time might be cheaper
# [21:17] <@ehsan> taras: only 10 hours? ;)
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# [21:17] <@ehsan> last time we were debating disk space it took us like 2 years!
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# [21:17] <taras> ehsan: being optimistic :)
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# [21:19] <@ehsan> taras: vlad: bug 950850
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# [21:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/77bd9575650b - Terrence Cole - Bug 949108 - Fix an exact rooting false positive across the activity callback; r=bholley
# [21:21] <mjrosenb> dxr just does a grep-like search, right?
# [21:21] <mjrosenb> so if I'm searching for the definition of mozilla::Array, searching for "mozilla::Array" isn't going to return what I want?
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# [21:23] <mjrosenb> also, is it in mfbt/Array.h?
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# [21:23] <terrence> mjrosenb: there are various tags you can use to search for a specific class/definition etx
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# [21:23] <terrence> mjrosenb: there used to be help... nowadays I generally just find an instance I know about and right-click to do the search
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# [21:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: weird, we seem to be hitting that earlier linux64 PGO bustage intermittently
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# [21:24] <firebot> Check-in:
# [21:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7cc3e1e4cfc1 - Markus Stange - Bug 942913 - Make sheets return YES from isVisibleOrBeingShown while the sheet opening animation runs so that we don't refuse to composite them during the animation.
# [21:24] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: :(
# [21:24] <taras> ehsan: i think gps already had a bug like this
# [21:24] <firebot> r=smichaud, a=lsblakk
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# [21:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5a01890560d7 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 941559 - Invalidate nsDislaySolidColor display items when their color changes. r=roc, a=lsblakk
# [21:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: sounds like clobberin' time
# [21:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/1a7dbb4d887e - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 942604 - Add correct Float32 handling to MSetFrameArgument. r=bbouvier, a=lsblakk
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# [21:25] <taras> vlad: so one side benefit of aws, all of the good aws instances have ssds now
# [21:25] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: it's so sad that a compiler fails intermittently like this!
# [21:25] <@ehsan> taras: I CCed him on the bug
# [21:26] <vlad> taras: yay
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# [21:29] <gps> bz: my internet is teh shit today
# [21:29] <gps> i've been dropping in and out of connectivity
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# [21:30] <gps> repro your dom/bindings build failure and upload the output of |make -d 2>&1 > make.log|
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# [21:30] <nrc> bz (and gps) I bisected down to bug 928195, which pretty much makes sense
# [21:31] <nrc> part 3, 4 or 5
# [21:32] <@bz> nrc: funtimes
# [21:32] <@bz> gps: doing that
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# [21:32] <@bz> gps: (adjusted for the right kind of shell.... ;)
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# [21:32] <@bz> nrc: file a bug blocking 928195 ?
# [21:33] <nrc> bz: shall do. Trying to narrow it down to one patch first
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# [21:40] <@ehsan> BenWa: ping
# [21:40] <BenWa> ehsan: pong
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# [21:40] <gal> gps: ping
# [21:40] <@ehsan> BenWa: do you know this code? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/build/LateWriteChecks.cpp#123
# [21:40] <BenWa> ehsan: a bit
# [21:41] <@ehsan> BenWa: good cause you reviewed it ;)
# [21:41] <@ehsan> BenWa: can you tell me why that code is not completely broken on windows without --enable-profiling?
# [21:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0cb1744033d0 - Alexander Surkov - Bug 935254 - getTextAt broken for list items. r=tbsaunde, a=lsblakk
# [21:41] <BenWa> ehsan: no
# [21:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3d2dbc8282b2 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 946243 - IonMonkey: Don't remove MComputeThis during EliminateDeadResumePointOperands. r=jandem, a=lsblakk
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# [21:41] <BenWa> returns an empty list
# [21:42] <@ehsan> does it?
# [21:42] <@ehsan> what guarantees that?
# [21:42] <jmaher> djvj: ping
# [21:42] <BenWa> ehsan: I don't know and I'm in a meeting
# [21:43] <BenWa> ehsan: Why do you think it would break?
# [21:43] <@ehsan> BenWa: ok, I'm going to remove this code, let me know if you object
# [21:43] <@ehsan> because we cannot walk the stack
# [21:43] <BenWa> ehsan: we can walk the stack on nightly
# [21:43] <@ehsan> BenWa: yes and only on nightly
# [21:43] <@ehsan> but I think this code runs everywhere
# [21:43] <BenWa> so thats fine
# [21:44] <BenWa> we fail and return early
# [21:44] <gps> gal: pong
# [21:44] <gal> hey
# [21:44] <gal> i have a .js file for a worker
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# [21:44] <gal> and I want to bundle that
# [21:44] <gal> in what category do I stick that in moz.build?
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# [21:44] <@ehsan> BenWa: well no, since the failure in that case would be NS_StackWalk returning garbage
# [21:44] <gps> gal: probably EXTRA_JS_MODULES (if it goes in dist/bin/modules)
# [21:45] <gal> k
# [21:45] <gps> the answer will be different in a few weeks
# [21:45] <BenWa> ehsan: it should never return garbage, if it does thats a bug
# [21:45] <gps> but the build will reject old values, so you shouldn't have to worry
# [21:45] <BenWa> ehsan: if that's your concern then fix the function itself
# [21:45] <@ehsan> BenWa: that is a known limitation of NS_StackWalk :)
# [21:45] <@ehsan> we can't
# [21:45] <@ehsan> I'm going to make the function not compile
# [21:45] <@ehsan> which is better than the status quo
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# [21:47] <@ehsan> gps: ping
# [21:47] <gps> ehsan: pong
# [21:48] <@ehsan> gps: hey, what's the kosher way of detecting windows in moz.build?
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# [21:48] <gps> ehsan: if CONFIG['OS_ARCH'] == 'WINNT'
# [21:48] <gps> that's the popular way
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# [21:48] <@ehsan> thanks
# [21:49] <gps> there's also: if CONFIG['MOZ_WIDGET_TOOLKIT'] == 'windows'
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# [21:50] <@bz> gps: gzipped log posted
# [21:50] <@bz> gps: In 950736
# [21:50] <gps> bz: thanks
# [21:50] <@ehsan> gps: what's the difference between them?
# [21:51] <nrc> gps: I filed bug 950864 for Windows build bustage due to the WebIDL build rewrite. Will you be able to look at that soon?
# [21:51] <gps> ehsan: OS_ARCH is the architecture of the current host. latter is what "theme" is being used
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# [21:51] <gps> nrc: yes. fixing webidl fallout is high priority
# [21:51] <@ehsan> gps: of the _host_?
# [21:51] <nrc> gps: great, thanks!
# [21:51] <@ehsan> so that would be the wrong check, wouldn't it?
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# [21:51] <gps> ehsan: there's also OS_TARGET
# [21:51] <tbsaunde> ehsan: no, its the target
# [21:52] <@ehsan> yeah, OS_TARGET is what I want then
# [21:52] <@ehsan> oh
# [21:52] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: gps: ok who's right here? :)
# [21:52] <gps> ehsan: people use them interchangeably. that's probably wrong, but I won't hold it against you :)
# [21:52] <reuben> does mailing list etiquette say whether I should reply to all or just to the list?
# [21:52] <@ehsan> well
# [21:52] <@ehsan> gps: which one is the correct one?
# [21:52] <@ehsan> I'm not interested in writing incorrect code ;)
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# [21:54] <gps> ehsan: I'd say OS_TARGET is better than OS_ARCH for compiled code. but MOZ_WIDGET_TOOLKIT covers cases where the arch isn't necessarily winnt. not sure if that would ever happen on Windows
# [21:54] <gps> can't remember how mingw works
# [21:54] <@ehsan> ok
# [21:54] <@ehsan> gps: does this condition look kosher? |if CONFIG['OS_TARGET'] != 'WINNT' || (not CONFIG['MOZ_OPTIMIZE'] or CONFIG['MOZ_PROFILING']):|
# [21:55] <briansmith> glandium: is MOZ_PSEUDO_DERECURSE=no-pymake unnecessary now?
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# [21:56] <gps> briansmith: no. it's all detected automatically. you shouldn't need MOZ_PSEUDO_DERECURSE in your mozconfig
# [21:56] <gps> briansmith: I mean "yes"
# [21:56] <briansmith> thanks
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# [21:57] <gps> ehsan: aside from ||, that looks fine
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# [21:57] <@ehsan> gps: hehe sorry
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# [22:03] <imphil> hi. it seems that the jar packaging has somehow changed to be not compatible with regular zip any more? Is there a command-line tool in the tree somewhere which allows me to unpack/pack the jar files?
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# [22:06] <Mook_as> yeah, it's got the central directory header at the start (to load faster); 7z should be able to deal with it. Hmm, whatever debian unzip (an info-zip derivative) seems to be okay too.
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# [22:07] <imphil> Mook_as, extracing is ok (unzip works), but if I use zip to recreate the jar it does not work any more
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# [22:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: started on the c-n push, so your hunch is looking right. Good call :)
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# [22:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mattwoodrow: ping
# [22:12] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM|sheriffduty: pong
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# [22:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mattwoodrow: beta doesn't like the uplift of bug 941559 :(
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# [22:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32041453&tree=Mozilla-Beta
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# [22:13] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM|sheriffduty: just add #include "nsColor.h" to nsDisplayListInvalidation.h should fix it
# [22:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mattwoodrow: kthx
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# [22:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7736d6971bc3 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 941559 - Add #include missing on m-b. r=mattwoodrow, a=bustage
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# [22:24] <rnewman> wow, this is really annoying.
# [22:24] <rnewman> [61942] ###!!! ASSERTION: Some other process has enabled secure event input: '!!sSecureEventInputCount == !!::IsSecureEventInputEnabled()', file /Users/rnewman/moz/hg/services-central/widget/cocoa/TextInputHandler.mm, line 4524
# [22:24] <rnewman> on every keypress, complete with beep
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# [22:28] <billm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ping
# [22:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> billm: thanks :)
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# [22:29] <billm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: sure. do you have a minute to look at a failure? I'm trying to figure out if it's my fault.
# [22:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sure
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# [22:29] <billm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: the two b2g build failures here: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=603f7329dcb4
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# [22:30] <Waldo> bsmedberg: ping? I seem to have a reproducible status report that, if I post it, triggers 500 ISE in entirely separate browsers
# [22:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> billm: infra
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# [22:31] <billm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: even the nsSelection.o one? should I just retrigger?
# [22:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> billm: neither's your fault
# [22:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor already did :)
# [22:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> see the bug he starred it as
# [22:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> billm: 11:33:27 INFO - ccache: FATAL: Could not create /builds/ccache/1/1/4e34fdb5b5c1721b9ba1d232e3932c-3775402.o.tmp.stdout.bld-centos6-hp-030.build.scl1.mozilla.com.14350 (permission denied?)
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# [22:32] <philor> I did? I thought you did
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# [22:32] <billm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: thanks
# [22:32] <billm> I retriggered one. I'll do the other one.
# [22:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I did the othe rone
# [22:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sorry
# [22:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so we're good!
# [22:32] <billm> ok, thanks guys
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# [22:46] <nemo> nrc: finally got around to testing it
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# [22:46] <nemo> seems fineish
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# [22:47] <nrc> nemo: I saw the comment - thanks!
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# [22:48] <nrc> nemo: so you tried exactly the same thing as the first time (with the black boxes) and couldn't repro that?
# [22:48] <nemo> yeah
# [22:48] <nemo> you know... let me try deleting profile, restarting and seeing if I can get it to happen if I'm really quick
# [22:48] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: good!
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# [22:48] <nrc> nemo: ok, thanks!
# [22:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: and green on the backout, so woowoo :)
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# [22:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/df7c72278682 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 924366 - Animated GIFs shouldn't loop before they have finished decoding. r=seth, a=lsblakk
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# [22:49] <nemo> nrc: nope. still seems fine
# [22:50] <nemo> and there's some flash and slightly laggy bits still soo. dunno. just random
# [22:50] <nemo> nrc: and it didn't last long either. before the black was everywhere and I had to interact w/ bits of FF to clear it
# [22:50] <nemo> usually went w/ windowing/maximizing to fix
# [22:50] <nrc> nemo: ioh, that souinds like it is not fine at all
# [22:50] <nemo> nrc: no no. I mean...
# [22:50] <nemo> before your fixes
# [22:51] <nemo> what triggered the report
# [22:51] <nrc> ah, OK
# [22:51] <nemo> this last black was thin and brief and disappeared on its own before I did anything
# [22:51] <nemo> and I haven't gotten it to happen more than once in now up to a dozen tries and 2 profile deletions
# [22:51] <nrc> nemo: so, with the fixes, everything is OK?
# [22:51] <nemo> yeah pretty much
# [22:51] <nemo> apart from that small gremlin
# [22:52] <nemo> ofc. I *am* on XP, an OS w/ not exactly the most modern rendering and prob a bit behind on graphics drivers too
# [22:52] <nrc> well, if you can't repro I'm going to pretend it never happened :-) As long as this is working pretty good, then it should only be around for a version or two until OMTC lands
# [22:52] <nemo> on the other hand, the transition off XP is rather slow here :)
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# [22:52] <nemo> nrc: oh. nice. yeah. that OMTC feels smoother
# [22:53] <nrc> just got some perf issues to roll out, then it is all go....
# [22:53] <nrc> nemo: thanks again for the testing!
# [22:53] <nemo> n/p
# [22:53] <nemo> hm
# [22:53] <nemo> there's something else I keep forgetting to test
# [22:54] <nemo> oh yeah. the Linux regression on:
# [22:54] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/piggie/#scale=12&sequence=1&frames=6&switchanim=1&b1.i=7&b2.i=2&b.i=2
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# [22:54] <nemo> nrc: say. that one wouldn't be your fault too, would it? :)
# [22:54] <nemo> bz told me to bisect it, but that takes soooo long :(
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# [22:54] <nemo> and I've been awfully busy lately
# [22:55] <nrc> nemo: what kind of regression?
# [22:55] <nemo> nrc:
# [22:55] <nemo> image-rendering: crisp-edges; image-rendering: pixelated;
# [22:55] <nemo> ignored in Linux
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# [22:55] <nemo> which is new...
# [22:55] <nrc> I am fairly confident that is nothing to do with me :-)
# [22:55] <nemo> not sure when it was new 'cause I made this toy for a pixel art game test a long time ago, and hadn't checked it since
# [22:55] <nemo> alrighty :D
# [22:55] <nrc> Maybe bother seth about it?
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# [22:56] <mattwoodrow> crisp-edges is a gfx thing usually
# [22:56] <yeukhon> question about pushing try: so try will be happy to build whatever latest moz-central the patch is depends on, right?
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# [22:57] <yeukhon> even if it is 2 weeks ago :)
# [22:57] <nrc> yeukhon: yes
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# [23:20] <ejpbruel> bz: whats the property way to assign a Sequence<T>& argument to a Sequence<T> member?
# [23:20] <ejpbruel> bz: can i just assign/copy?
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# [23:23] <@khuey> ejpbruel: pong
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# [23:25] <ejpbruel> khuey: i noticed we sometimes use swap in Worker code to assign one value to another
# [23:25] <ejpbruel> khuey: for instance JSAutoStructuredCloneBuffer
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# [23:25] <ejpbruel> khuey: why is that?
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# [23:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> kats: hey, is the backout patch in bug 943846 supposed to land on trunk too?
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# [23:27] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yup
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# [23:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> kats: k, wasn't very clear in the bug :)
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# [23:27] <kats> yeah, it wasn't
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# [23:27] <kats> the underlying issue was fixed so the workaround needs backing out everywhere
# [23:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> also, hitting some test conflicts in bug 942929
# [23:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> the apzc gtest
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# [23:28] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: if you want you can leave that and i can land it
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# [23:29] <seth> jdm: ping
# [23:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> k, will do
# [23:29] <kats> although it probably means we missed uplifting something else
# [23:29] <kats> i'll look into it
# [23:29] <jdm> seth: pong
# [23:30] <kats> daleharvey: ping
# [23:30] <@bsmedberg> Waldo: email server issues, it will probably auto-resolve after a bit
# [23:30] <daleharvey> kats: pong
# [23:30] <kats> daleharvey: do we want bug 946661 in 1.3?
# [23:30] <Waldo> bsmedberg: how long is a bit likely to be?
# [23:30] <seth> jdm: ah, good. i just wanted to make sure you weren't on vacation. =) if so i was going to reassign the reviews for bug 943803 and bug 896268
# [23:30] <@bsmedberg> Waldo: it's dreamhost, I really don't know
# [23:30] <jdm> seth: oh, whoops
# [23:30] <jdm> apologies about that
# [23:30] <jdm> I'll look at them today
# [23:31] <Waldo> blargh
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# [23:32] <sheppy> You know what would be a nice browser feature? Support for collecting and tracking receipts for online shopping.
# [23:33] <@khuey> ejpbruel: RAII goodness?
# [23:33] <sheppy> Instead of printing them or saving as PDFs, having some way to record them built right into the browser that's helping me spend all that money in the first place. :)
# [23:33] <@khuey> ejpbruel: maybe we're avoiding refcounting on the wrong thread
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# [23:44] <@khuey> ejpbruel: well JSAutoStructuredCloneBuffer has a pointer to allocated memory
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# [23:46] <ejpbruel> khuey: hm
# [23:47] <@khuey> ejpbruel: or at least it used to
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# [23:48] <ejpbruel> khuey: oh i see we explicitly disallow assignment and copy, but we do allow swap for JSAutoStructuredClonebuffer
# [23:49] <ejpbruel> khuey: weird, but i guess that explains it
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# [23:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe06f0c2d374 - Luke Wagner - Bug 950527 - Mark asm.js success messages as not being an error (r=bbouvier)
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# [23:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a8bcdd35d1e - Brian Hackett - Bug 937089 - Deoptimize arguments when it is redeclared as a variable inside a with statement inside an eval, r=luke.
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