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# [00:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a70f5add1982 - Christian Holler - Bug 950658 - Clear pending exception in HeapTypeSetKey::instantiate on OOM. r=bhackett
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# [00:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65adb5a76773 - Edwin Flores - Bug 866080 - Use Android I420ColorConverter in OMX plugin r=sotaro,doublec
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# [00:05] <@ehsan> froydnj: you around?
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# [00:06] <KWierso|sheriffduty> RyanVM|afk: one of your uplifts broke Gu on aurora, I think :(
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# [00:07] <RyanVM|afk> looks like mdas to me
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# [00:07] <RyanVM|afk> mdas: ping
# [00:07] <@ehsan> froydnj: anyhow, fwiw I spent some time optimizing QI by removing the out arg a while ago, and then I measured the improvement, and it didn't move the needle anywhere
# [00:08] <@ehsan> froydnj: so don't get your hopes up this time around ;)
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# [00:09] <@njn> only one more bug needs fixing before Valgrind-on-TBPL can be made visible...
# [00:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af4351a02070 - Mike Conley - Bug 863872 - If we have overdue TelemetryPings, try to send them all. r=nfroyd, feedback=irving.
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# [00:11] <RyanVM|afk> KWierso|sheriffduty: yo, it's probably the pushbot change that'll fix it
# [00:11] <RyanVM|afk> KWierso|sheriffduty: wait for the Gu run on that before doing anything
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# [00:12] <KWierso|sheriffduty> okay
# [00:13] <RyanVM|afk> KWierso|sheriffduty: those were the fixes that had to land in close proximity on b-i last week for the same reason
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# [00:20] <qDot> Because I'm sure we have quite a few worthy competitors in the community/company: http://tgceec.tumblr.com/
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# [00:27] <Anarchy> who can do a review on js/src/vm/Runtime.cpp?
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# [00:28] <@njn> qDot: lol
# [00:28] <@njn> Anarchy: what are you changing?
# [00:28] <@njn> Anarchy: if it's simple I can probably do it
# [00:28] <Anarchy> njn, just removal of obsolete code.
# [00:29] <@njn> Anarchy: yeah, I can do it -- I'm ":njn" on Bugzilla
# [00:29] <Anarchy> thanks
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# [00:32] <froydnj> ehsan: good to know, I was considering doing that!
# [00:32] <froydnj> ehsan: I don't really expect anything to move the needle here, really, especially with webidl
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# [00:32] <@ehsan> froydnj: there is a very old wontfixed bug if you want me to try to dig it up
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# [00:38] <@roc> hmm, my push to try is hanging
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# [00:38] <philor> clearly a sign
# [00:39] <@NeilAway> froydnj: did you mean to use a > comparison?
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# [00:39] <@NeilAway> froydnj: oh, wait, I see now, there's an end marker
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# [00:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef0eeaec74a8 - Sean Stangl - Bug 949183 - Fix jsid static constructor explosion. r=Waldo
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# [00:52] <annevk> https://static.mozilla.com/moco/en-US/images/mozilla_eoy_2013_EN.svg is still not exactly great use of SVG, cannot select text and such
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# [00:53] <hurley> so i know nsAutoCString has to be null-terminated, but if i have a string with null bytes in it, will i still be able to access the full contents (including any non-terminal null bytes)?
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# [00:55] * Mook_as didn't think ns*CString needed to be null-terminated...
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# [00:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/884b554dea2d - Gregory Szorc - Bug 950736 - Part 2: Make build failures of codegen.pp fatal; r=glandium
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# [00:58] <tbsaunde> froydnj: I bet if we finally changed to int sized things instead of uuids we'd help a bit
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# [01:03] <reuben> scrolling this image makes me sad: https://static.mozilla.com/moco/en-US/images/mozilla_eoy_2013_EN.svg
# [01:03] <reuben> s/image/document/ but still
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# [01:03] <heycam> yeah, I filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=950946 about that
# [01:04] <reuben> thanks
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# [01:05] <reuben> also I just realized that SVG documents don't seem to share the styling of TopLevelImageDocument.css
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# [01:05] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mdas: ping
# [01:05] <heycam> reuben, I wonder if they should, though, since they can be interactive and running scripts and so on
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# [01:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2212cbf3e7ca - Geoff Brown - Bug 944440 - Force test_no_arr_points.html to work on Android x86 emu; r=jgilbert
# [01:07] <reuben> heycam: good point
# [01:07] <mrbkap> How do I pass --timeout to browser-chrome?
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# [01:08] <philor> there's no need, it'll time out on its own ;)
# [01:09] <reuben> lol
# [01:09] <reuben> is there a tracker for build problems that require nuking $objdir/_virtualenv ?
# [01:09] <mrbkap> philor: I want it to happen *sooner* so that it doesn't give me the false hope that I might actually be able to debug this...
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# [01:09] <mrbkap> Really, the teasing is too much for a Monday.
# [01:09] <philor> heh
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# [01:10] <Unfocused> ITYM Tuesday
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# [01:11] <reuben> ITYM ʎɐpsǝn┴
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# [01:11] <Unfocused> hah
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# [01:12] <philor> mrbkap: just hack http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/browser-test.js#3 maybe?
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# [01:15] <@NeilAway> Mook_as: nsA(C)String and nsDependentSubstring aren't necessarily null-terminated, but all the others have at least a null terminator
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# [01:16] <@NeilAway> hurley: if someone calls .get() on your string then they won't know that extra bytes exist, but other string operations should work
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# [01:17] <WG9s> reuben:so, does that mean either you or Unfocused are from Australia?
# [01:17] <Unfocused> WG9s: i'm in New Zealand
# [01:18] <nrc> lies! Unfocused is in the future
# [01:18] <reuben> ironically, I'm also in the southern hemisphere. I blame US cultural imperialism
# [01:18] <froydnj> tbsaunde: yeah, I think you could reduce the size of those tables quite a bit by doing something similar to what glandium did recently with specially-named sections for modules and libxul
# [01:18] <glandium> froydnj: that's still not landed btw
# [01:18] <froydnj> glandium: doh
# [01:18] <WG9s> Unfocused: OK that explains it. Just wanted to understand the joke. (because it seemed like my kind of joke)
# [01:18] <froydnj> glandium: build issues still?
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# [01:19] <glandium> froydnj: jetpack test goes purple
# [01:19] <froydnj> glandium: bleh
# [01:19] <@bz> Sounds like a kids book.
# [01:19] <glandium> froydnj: and there's a surprising one-liner that fixes it, but i'd rather know what's going on
# [01:21] * froydnj doesn't understand how that affects *tests*
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# [01:21] <glandium> froydnj: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3792595 that's the patch
# [01:21] <WG9s> reuben, Unfocused: there was a map I used to have a copy of showing the world from the other side of the equator perspective using kind of an inverse Mercator projection showing how this looks from the other side.
# [01:21] <hurley> NeilAway: excellent, thanks
# [01:21] <froydnj> glandium: yeah...let's not commit that one
# [01:21] <glandium> froydnj: i presume there's a shutdown race condition that's triggered by whatever the jetpack test does
# [01:22] <glandium> froydnj: and since we're effectively changing the xpcom module registration order...
# [01:22] <mrbkap> philor: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3792602
# [01:23] <mrbkap> philor: I was going to try to fix it for real but decided I don't care enough.
# [01:23] <Unfocused> WG9s: https://secure.flickr.com/photos/9teen87/7582386522/
# [01:24] <mrbkap> 6000 seconds is enough testing for anybody.
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# [01:24] <philor> plenty for me
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# [01:27] <@njn> Anarchy: I don't understand the patch; why is that code dead? What problem is the patch solving?
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# [01:27] <WG9s> Unfocused. No the map I am referring to reversed the bias in the accepted flat maps to show North America and Europe larger to showing Australia really big at the top of the map.
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# [01:28] <Unfocused> WG9s: ooooh, i think i've seen that
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# [01:29] <Unfocused> i used the one i linked to in a blog post earlier in the year - i couldn't find the other one
# [01:29] <WG9s> google has also failed me in finding it.
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# [01:31] <WG9s> I work for a COmpany that also has offices in Australia and they sent it to me.
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# [01:32] <WG9s> Well to someone else int he office and at the time this digital stuff was not that big a deal they sent a physical map and the person they sent it to retired and took it with him.
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# [01:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2dc6642eba5d - Wes Kocher - Backed out 6 changesets (bug 877115) for mochitest-1 and reftest orange on this CLOSED TREE
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# [01:37] <WG9s> Nothing wrong with original idea of making area near where you are more detailed and thus larger and areas farther away smaller and less detailed, but making that the universal maps for everyone is completely wrong.
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# [01:38] <WG9s> Mercator projection flat maps are just biased.
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# [01:40] <@bz> mercator projection flat maps are just designed for navigation
# [01:40] <@bz> which is not what people mostly use them for
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# [01:43] <WG9s> bz: well that was the point of the map I was looking for and google failed me. a completely different way to bias the way you looked at things similar to what the mercator projection did to make the Australia THis was not a serious map perported to ahve any useful purpose. area bigger than the rest of the world.
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# [01:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ac84c96bc4df - Steve Workman - Bug 444328 - Add PRFileDescAutoLock and LockedPRFileDesc to automate and enforce calls to Get|ReleaseFD_Locked r=mcmanus
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# [01:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3177e1d28a3 - Terrence Cole - Bug 950923 - Fix an exact rooting hazard in GlobalObject::getIntrinsicValue; r=sfink
# [01:53] <WG9s> Hmm not sure what happened there but i do have issues with the touchpad sometimes with my editing. was trying to say the Mercator projection artificially made Europe look bigger than it should in relation to Australia. This map went to the stupidity level trying to make Australia look way bigger than Europe and North America, utilizing similar techniques.
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# [02:00] <@roc> eeejay: ping
# [02:00] <eeejay> roc, pong
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# [02:02] <@roc> I assume there's no test coverage for the issue in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=943461#c37 ?
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# [02:05] <eeejay> roc, kind of, not really. there is coverage for that code, but for some reason i only see the issue with real audio data.
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# [02:06] <@roc> hmm
# [02:06] <@roc> so how would I test this?
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# [02:08] <eeejay> roc, i'll try to reproduce it tomorrow in a mochitest, and send it your way.
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# [02:09] <@roc> I'm a little confused to be honest, this patch shouldn't affect whether NotifyFinished gets called
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# [02:10] <@roc> some of the other patches might, I guess. Did you test the whole patch stack or just read the code?
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# [02:12] <eeejay> roc, i only tested the patch yo r?'ed me on
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# [02:12] <@roc> ahhh
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# [02:12] <@roc> in that case you might be getting hit by bugs my other patches are fixing
# [02:13] <eeejay> roc, ah.. oops sorry
# [02:13] <eeejay> roc you touched msg? i didn't see that
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# [02:13] <@roc> yeah, lots :-)
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# [02:13] <@roc> Can you try a tryserver build from https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=785f7437cde4 or https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=04bbcd2f98e9?
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# [02:16] <eeejay> roc, actually. web speech synth is not built by default on desktop
# [02:17] <eeejay> so the try build is not good.
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# [02:17] <eeejay> i'll try your queue
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# [02:27] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: ping?
# [02:27] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: pong
# [02:28] <mdas> KWierso|sheriffduty: very late pong
# [02:28] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: you wouldn't happen to know how I'd stop gaia pushbot from repushing something I tried to back out on Aurora
# [02:28] <KWierso|sheriffduty> would you?
# [02:28] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: CLOSED TREE, don't think anything else will stop it
# [02:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/344287e4c1cf - Robert O'Callahan - Backout fix for bug 922601 (changeset a36ab6c7f174) to fix regressions,a=lblakk
# [02:29] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mdas: maybe you can help with that ^, too... I had to back out bug 925398 on aurora for breaking Gaia UI tests :(
# [02:29] <mdas> yeah I'm looking now
# [02:29] <mdas> I just noticed that
# [02:29] <mdas> KWierso|sheriffduty: but no I don't know anything about gaia pushbot
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# [02:30] <philor> its theory is that you'll back out from gaia, rather than backing out its change
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# [02:33] <@njn> who knows about webaudio? kinetik?
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# [02:33] <mdas> KWierso|sheriffduty: ah.
# [02:33] <mdas> I know.
# [02:33] <mdas> KWierso|sheriffduty: I'm sorry, I forgot the order of things.
# [02:34] <@njn> does roc know about webaudio?
# [02:34] <jdm> he does
# [02:34] <kinetik> njn: ehsan/padenot/karlt
# [02:34] <@njn> kinetik: thanks!
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# [02:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf3a1c05c945 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 950120 - Use audio reader if no video reader available, and handle zero reader case. r=doublec
# [02:36] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: would that debug m1 orange on b2g-inbound be bug 949525's fault?
# [02:36] <mdas> KWierso|sheriffduty: so, I landed a change in gaia v1.3 that should have migrated to m-a's gaia.json before I landed my changes
# [02:36] <mdas> instead I think it just landed
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# [02:37] <mdas> and my changes were backed out before it landed :/
# [02:38] <mdas> sorry about that
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# [02:38] <froydnj> sstangl++
# [02:38] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mdas: I guess you can just reland the correct things?
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# [02:39] <mdas> KWierso|sheriffduty: I'll give it a shot, it should green Gu
# [02:39] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mdas: thanks :)
# [02:39] <mdas> KWierso|sheriffduty: sorry about that! I'm happy I was still logged in
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# [02:41] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: as good a guess as any
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# [02:46] <philor> decoder: you broke a Windows
# [02:46] <philor> well, I guess there are other possible criminals, aren't there?
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# [02:47] <philor> or not
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# [02:48] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: out goes a70f5add1982?
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# [02:48] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: yep
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# [02:49] <KWierso|sheriffduty> boom
# [02:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97822855e969 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset a70f5add1982 (bug 950658) for breaking Windows builds
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# [02:52] <mdas> KWierso|sheriffduty: I just noticed this, https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/7d667fc1bc20, which is the gaia.json update I was waiting for. Turns out that even with the patches I landed and with this update, there's still a failure on Gu, but I don't understand the failure
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# [02:52] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mdas: fun
# [02:52] <mdas> yes.
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# [02:54] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mdas: is there any chance you have access to the gaia repository to revert the changes on that side?
# [02:55] <mdas> KWierso|sheriffduty: I have access but I don't know to backout a merge without rewriting history in git
# [02:55] <mdas> let me see
# [02:55] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mdas: | git revert | I think?
# [02:56] <Callek> meh, hg backout -r; hg merge;
# [02:56] <Callek> whats this git thing everyone is talking about, and why is it always so complicated
# [02:57] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mdas: https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/howto/revert-a-faulty-merge.txt
# [02:57] <cpeterson> mdas: to uncommit the git HEAD, I think you can just use: git reset HEAD^
# [02:57] <catlee> don't do that, you'll break other people
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# [02:58] <@bz> You want to back out, not uncommit
# [02:58] <doublec> git revert is backout is it not?
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# [02:59] <h4writer> RyanVM|afk, is that approval‑mozilla‑b2g26? Since that mentions it is only for security issues?
# [02:59] <qDot> doublec: Yup
# [02:59] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mdas: I think you'd want | git revert -m1 [the commit hash you want backed out]
# [02:59] <KWierso|sheriffduty> |
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# [02:59] <mdas> KWierso|sheriffduty: yup I'm doing that thanks, I'm making a new pr to track it
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# [03:00] <qDot> If you want to be super pedantic, you git revert, then revert the revert and patch on top for fixes.
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# [03:00] <qDot> Resetting and force pushing is a great way to teach people about desynched HEADs by pissing them off though.
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# [03:01] <nrc> +1 for the pedagogical opportunity
# [03:02] <qDot> git is great at giving you a chance to let wisdom fall on enraged ears.
# [03:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca8f3c046bc6 - Ben Turner - Bug 914762 - Allow nsThread to be subclassed, r=bsmedberg.
# [03:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38961d1068f8 - Ben Turner - Bug 914762 - Switch Workers to use a normal nsThread event loop, r=mrbkap.
# [03:02] <mdas> KWierso|sheriffduty: merged in the backout
# [03:02] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mdas++
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# [03:03] <jld> I'm still amazed that, having been a Hg user who struggled to understand Git, I somehow wound up a Git user who can't figure out why Hg has to make simple stuff so complicated.
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# [03:04] <@bz> "simple" is a matter of opinion
# [03:04] <@bz> There's tons of simple stuff in hg that's more complicated in git
# [03:04] <@bz> like committing some changes, say....
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# [03:07] <doublec> 'git commit' isn't simple?
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# [03:10] <nalexander> doublec: hahaha... you wanted git add, and then git commit, right?
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# [03:11] <@bz> doublec: git commit doesn't commit your stuff
# [03:11] <@bz> doublec: unless you git add it first
# [03:11] <@bz> doublec: even if it's a file which is already tracked by git, thus earning the "most unintuitive meaning of add" award
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# [03:12] <@roc> jld: I keep expecting to make that leap, and failing
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# [03:12] <doublec> nalexander: or just "git commit -a"
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# [03:12] <@bz> Right, but now you have to have extra args to do the simple thing
# [03:12] <doublec> Is it simple to add portions of changes in files to a commit in hg?
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# [03:13] <nalexander> doublec: indeed it is not. I hate that.
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# [03:13] <@roc> bent: hurrah!
# [03:13] <nalexander> doublec: I agree that the git index is awesome, and I'd love to see it become a feature of hg.
# [03:13] <@roc> ha
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# [03:13] <@roc> I think the index is one of the worst misfeatures in git
# [03:13] <doublec> I just get annoyed at the "-a" extra command line arg is considered complex I guess
# [03:14] <doublec> But git vs hg is dangerously close to vim vs emacs so I probably shouldnt :)
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# [03:15] <@bz> doublec: with mq, yes
# [03:15] <@bz> doublec: hg qrecord
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# [03:15] <doublec> bz: so you need this extra thing, mq, to do the simple thing?
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# [03:15] <KWierso> right, but now you need to enable extra extensions to do the simple thing
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# [03:15] <@bz> doublec: I will claim that committing some but not all of your local changes is NOT the simple thing
# [03:16] <@bz> c.f "simple" is a matter of opinion
# [03:16] <@roc> right
# [03:16] <@bz> editing an already-created commit: not the simple thing
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# [03:16] <@bz> etc
# [03:16] <@bz> Useful!
# [03:17] <@bz> But not simple.
# [03:17] <@bz> modifying history: super useful, but not "simple"
# [03:17] <@bz> anyway
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# [03:18] <@bz> fwiw, hg record exists too
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# [03:18] <@bz> and doesn't need mq
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# [03:18] <@bz> I just forget about it, because if I need selective committing I need a lot of other things too
# [03:18] <@bz> which I use mq for
# [03:19] <@roc> also hg (q)record solves the "add portions of changes" problem without requiring the index, with its horrible baggage
# [03:19] <@bz> On the other hand, no one will accuse hg record of being "simple"
# [03:19] <@bz> Just the existence of the "e" option tells you that!
# [03:19] <@roc> like "git diff" vs "git diff --cached"
# [03:20] <yeukhon> is there a rule govern how freqeunt someone can use the try server?
# [03:20] <yeukhon> or "recommend"
# [03:20] <nrc> no more than necessary?
# [03:20] <@bz> What is not easy in hg is succintly saying "commit all changes to files a, b, c, but let me pick which ones go in d and e"
# [03:20] <@roc> yes. If you use it too much, someone will create a list of the highest users with your name on it and laugh at you
# [03:20] <bent> roc, thanks! let's hope it sticks
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# [03:20] <yeukhon> *yeukhon* :)
# [03:20] <@bz> Which you would do with git via multiple add commands
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# [03:21] <yeukhon> and is this list public? roc
# [03:21] <@bz> yeukhon: yes
# [03:21] <nrc> yeukhon: https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/builddata/reports/reportor/daily/highscores/highscores.html
# [03:22] <nrc> that ryanvm guy, such a waste of resources :-)
# [03:22] <@bz> man
# [03:22] <glandium> grrrr not only did i lose a push race, but now, after rebasing, i lost a closed-tree race :(
# [03:22] <@bz> I clearly underuse try
# [03:22] <@roc> yeukhon: use the trychooser, be sensible, and don't worry about it
# [03:22] <yeukhon> im sure my name will be up there tmr
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# [03:22] <@bz> yeukhon: that would take some doing
# [03:22] <heycam> needs a new "$" column now
# [03:22] <yeukhon> roc: yeah using it now. got problems with a couple of them.
# [03:23] <yeukhon> on first day getting try access *name is up!*
# [03:23] <yeukhon> probably should just clone b2g dev environment
# [03:23] <glandium> nrc: he still doesn't beat me, i got past 7000 hours a couple weeks ago
# [03:23] <KWierso> glandium: :(
# [03:23] * @bz wonders what ryanvm was doing
# [03:23] <nrc> heycam--
# [03:23] <KWierso> bz: bisecting hard to reproduce oranges
# [03:23] <@bz> Actually, I would be intersted in seeing these numbers in $ terms
# [03:24] <nrc> I would be afraid
# [03:24] <@bz> Because then I would know whether 1000 hours is like 50 cents or like 500 bucks.
# [03:24] <@bz> RyanVM: fun. :(
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# [03:24] <@bz> er, KWierso: fun
# [03:24] <@roc> blerging: the feeling you get when you start writing a patch that you think will conflict with some other patches you have stashed somewhere
# [03:25] <mrbkap> bz: Should nsWindowWatcher::OpenWindowInternal outerize aParent?
# [03:25] <yeukhon> okay this looks promising. https://gist.github.com/yzen/7723421
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# [03:25] <nrc> back of envelope: one push = 250 hours and costs $26, so 1000 hours ~= $104
# [03:25] <yeukhon> vagrant file for b2g dev env
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# [03:26] <nrc> assuming try costs the same as inbound
# [03:27] <doublec> we could have a user pays try where pushing gives a bitcoin address and the build starts when the correct amount of btc are sent to it
# [03:27] <edwin> Where's the $26 number from?
# [03:28] <nrc> edwin: http://oduinn.com/blog/2013/12/13/the-financial-cost-of-a-checkin-part-2/
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# [03:34] <nthomas> the $26 come from the hourly rates for EC2 instances; IT is working on total-cost-of-ownership for in-house hardware to price that per job
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# [03:38] <KWierso> philor|away (or anyone else who wants inbound reopened): that backout hopefully will fix the little problem of pretty much every single b2g test failing to run
# [03:38] <KWierso> I need to run, so probably won't be around when those results start coming back
# [03:38] <KWierso> feel free to reopen if they start passing :)
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# [03:49] * @dolske compares http://ishtml5dead.com/ in Firefox and Chrome...
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# [03:52] <seth> dolske: seems more awesome in chrome =\
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# [03:54] <@roc> http://ishtml5dead.com/css/dead.css
# [03:54] <@roc> whose site is it?
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# [03:56] <glob> roc, https://github.com/Wilto/ishtml5dead.com
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# [03:58] <@dolske> html5 is dead, long live webkit?
# [03:58] <glob> ah, there's -webkit-transform within -moz-keyframes
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# [03:59] <@roc> we actually support all that stuff non-prefixed
# [03:59] <@dolske> -webkit-html5
# [03:59] <glob> roc, nice issue :)
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# [04:12] <mbrubeck> already has an annoyed comment
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# [04:13] <froydnj> ./popcorn
# [04:14] <edwin> And yet it *is* pretty apt having that in the "HTML5 IS DEAD" CSS file.
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# [04:15] <nthomas> the equivalent twitter feed is snarky too (no way!)
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# [04:22] <decoder> philor|away: huh.. how did that break windows?
# [04:23] <decoder> ah i see
# [04:23] <decoder> i think thats another bug
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# [04:54] <philor> heh, sweet looking tree
# [04:54] <@bz> cinnamon?
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# [04:56] <philor> decoder: and for bonus fun, it was three in a row, but not actually permaorange
# [04:56] <@khuey> i've always wanted a cinnamon tree
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# [04:57] <philor> this one seems to have been grafted to orange tree roots, not sure that's a good thing
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# [05:00] <philor> in case anyone was wondering, taking a timeout-prone test and splitting it into dozens of timeout-prone tests with different filenames so I have to jam seven dozen test_bug570378-arabic-numberletter.html things into a bug summary will not, in fact, make me happy
# [05:00] <nrc> does cinnamon grow on trees?
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# [05:04] <@khuey> nrc: it's made from the bark of trees
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# [05:05] <nrc> ah
# [05:05] <nrc> today I have learned something \o/
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# [05:05] <edwin> I had assumed that was a tree-related joke that went over my head.
# [05:05] <edwin> nrc--
# [05:06] <nrc> :-(
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# [05:12] <@bz> nrc++
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# [05:15] <nrc> :-)
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# [05:21] <@njn> nrc: yeah, downvote for learning something O_o
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# [05:21] <@njn> nrc: speaking of which, do you know what a pineapple plant looks like? If not, google it RIGHT NOW
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# [05:21] <nrc> I know right, edwin is such an asshole :-)
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# [05:22] <@bz> huh
# [05:22] * @bz always imagined it as more palm-like
# [05:22] <nrc> same
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# [05:23] <edwin> :-(
# [05:23] <nrc> I like the way the pineapple's little hat thing is like a mini-version of the rest of the plant
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# [05:24] <@njn> bz: everyone does!
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# [05:24] <nrc> it's ok edwin, we love you really
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# [05:25] <edwin> nrc: If you really loved me you would accept doge into your heart as your lord and saviour.
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# [05:26] <@njn> roc: I'm waiting for the trolls to descend on your blog w.r.t. US health care not being fantastic
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# [05:27] <@khuey> psh
# [05:27] <@khuey> US health care sucks
# [05:27] <@njn> khuey: well, yeah, but there's a whole industry devoted to denying it
# [05:28] <glandium> khuey: wait, there's health care in the US?
# [05:28] <@khuey> zing
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# [05:28] <@njn> glandium: there must be; it's like 111%of GDP or something
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# [05:47] <@roc> njn: I think most people in the USA agrees their system is broken. They disagree a lot on how, why and how to fix it
# [05:47] <@khuey> indeed
# [05:48] <@njn> roc: I imagine there being hordes of people paid to deny it, constantly searching the web for blog posts to comment into oblivion
# [05:48] <@njn> roc: admittedly, I have an active imagination
# [05:48] <@bz> njn: there's all sorts of problems with how people's interests align with changes to the system. Or not.
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# [05:48] <@bz> njn: e.g. reducing costs is not exactly in the interests of the doctors....
# [05:48] <@khuey> the health insurance lobby is not the chinese government
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# [05:49] <@khuey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
# [05:49] <@bz> njn: But may be in the interests of the nurses, depending on how it's done.
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# [05:51] <@roc> Believe it or not some people want to be doctors because they want to help people, and get frustrated by the bureaucracy
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# [05:51] <@roc> others get driven out of it by the malpractice insurance
# [05:51] <@khuey> another issue is that with how much medical education costs in the US, most doctors go into lots of debt
# [05:51] <@bz> roc: Oh, I believe it!
# [05:52] <@khuey> which means they basically have to make a lot of money
# [05:52] <@bz> right
# [05:52] <@khuey> or the NPV of pursuing a medical degree when you're 18 is quite low
# [05:52] <nrc> also the hours - restricting the supply of doctors in order to increase wages also leads to longer hours, which sucks for many doctors
# [05:52] <@bz> And does it cost that much because that's how much it costs to provide the education?
# [05:52] <@bz> Or because the number of slots in medical schools has not changed in 40 years?
# [05:52] <@khuey> I will say that the AMA is a much more effective cartel than the ABA
# [05:53] <@bz> khuey: heh
# [05:53] <@bz> So you get these vicious cycle effects..
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# [05:54] <@khuey> complex system dynamics are fun
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# [05:57] <@njn> my wife's uncle is a GP in Texas. He says "Obamacare will reduce the amount of money I make. And that's ok."
# [05:58] <@roc> he lives in Austin then
# [05:58] <@khuey> hah
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# [06:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/07c359a887c2 - Wes Kocher - Merge b2g-inbound to m-c
# [06:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e392b42678c3 - Alessandro Decina - Bug 928806 - Allow SharedPlanarYCbCrImage images to optionally have padding
# [06:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/689ec26f50e1 - Jan Gerber - Bug 949525 - VP9 tests. r=cpearce
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# [06:17] <@njn> inbound's looking fairly healthy again
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# [06:19] <@bz> You mean it didn't need the US healthcare system after all?
# [06:19] <KWierso|afk> fine, I'll stop holding inbound hostage
# [06:19] <@njn> KWierso|afk: thanks!
# [06:19] <KWierso|afk> tree's open, break away
# [06:19] <heycam> thanks!
# [06:19] <@njn> heycam: beat you to it
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# [06:20] <heycam> boo
# [06:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c9e9f2940aef - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 945973 (part 1) - Remove about:memory's is-a-sentence description check. r=mccr8.
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# [06:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/574c74c2f035 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 950497 - Make self-referencing CSS variables invalid even if they have fallback. r=dbaron
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# [06:21] <@njn> though not quite, according to firebot
# [06:21] <heycam> well done firebot
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# [06:22] <@njn> firebot's not the best at that
# [06:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/512ed7cfb2cf - Mike Hommey - Bug 950290 - Move python scripts from build/autoconf into a mozbuild submodule. r=gps
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# [06:23] <yeukhon> i should probably just skip b2g and claim it isn't my fault :)
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# [06:48] <@bz> try getting slow again
# [06:50] <heycam> took me about 30 secs to open its tbpl page
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# [06:52] <KWierso|afk> heycam: odd, loads near-instantly for me :\
# [06:53] <heycam> the page managed to load after that, but I'm getting stuck on "Loading 80% ..."
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# [06:56] <heycam> I wonder what the different coloured parts of the bars in the Network devtools tab mean
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# [06:57] <KWierso|afk> heycam: click a request
# [06:57] <KWierso|afk> then go to the timings tab
# [06:58] <heycam> oh Timings, cool
# [06:58] <heycam> 400ms of dns resolution on one of my requests
# [06:58] <heycam> (was the pretty pink I was wondering about)
# [07:00] <@bz> pretty punk dns resolution, eh?
# [07:00] <heycam> well, pink at least
# [07:01] <heycam> the colours look a bit smudgy and washed out
# [07:02] <@bz> 400ms is definitely punk
# [07:02] <KWierso|afk> or at least puke
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# [09:02] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jaws: ping
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# [09:02] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jaws: seems your checkin cause https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32074966&tree=Fx-Team
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# [09:07] <KWierso|afk> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I doubt jaws is around at this hour, you're probably better off just backing that out
# [09:07] <KWierso|afk> :)
# [09:07] <smontagu> Ms2ger: ping
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# [09:07] <Ms2ger> smontagu, yes?
# [09:08] <smontagu> Ms2ger: do you know if there are some tests somewhere for text-align: match-parent that we could steal?
# [09:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> KWierso|afk: yeah will back it out :)
# [09:09] <Ms2ger> Not that I know of, but I guess those would probably be in the csswg's repo, which I don't really follow
# [09:09] * smontagu is doing end-of-year patch queue cleanup, and has a patch for it from ages ago that he never finished and has no tests for
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# [09:14] <Ms2ger> smontagu, grep doesn't turn up anything
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# [09:30] <yeukhon> Ms2ger: cancel try job doesn't have to go through anyone right?
# [09:30] <Ms2ger> Nope
# [09:30] <yeukhon> okay. thanks.
# [09:30] <yeukhon> but how do you know it is cancelled?
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# [09:33] <Ms2ger> The cancelled runs become pink
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# [09:38] <yeukhon> got it thanks!
# [09:38] <yeukhon> saw it :)
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# [10:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/84c085a233e8 - Tim Taubert - Bug 786347 - Fix <a ping> implementation to follow spec r=bz
# [10:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0099c1899f99 - Tim Taubert - Bug 786347 - Tests for <a ping> implementation r=bz
# [10:23] <Ms2ger> Yay, only took us since Fx3!
# [10:24] <ttaubert> heh
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# [10:24] <ttaubert> let's see how long it takes to enable that by default
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# [10:26] <Ms2ger> Well, we're on 29 now, right?
# [10:26] <Ms2ger> So probably in Fx55
# [10:27] <Ms2ger> Which is next week, I guess
# [10:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh
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# [10:32] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> seems Ms2ger has a plan for next week while most of us are offline :)
# [10:32] <Ms2ger> Ehehehehehe
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# [10:46] <Fallen> why would xpcshell not be showing errors? I do "sdfgiajdsg()" in xpcshell, but I don't get an error nor a result
# [10:47] <Ms2ger> I think I've seen a bug for that
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# [10:48] <Ms2ger> bug 943312?
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# [11:10] <Fallen> Ms2ger: yep, that works. Thanks!
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# [11:11] <Ms2ger> Np
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# [11:14] <@NeilAway> glandium: hmm, so if in a/moz.build I set FINAL_LIBRARY=b and in b/moz.build I set LIBRARY_NAME=b FINAL_LIBRARY=xul then does a get linked into xul?
# [11:15] <Ms2ger> Is that what gklayout does?
# [11:16] <Ms2ger> Yep, looks like that's exactly what gklayout does
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# [11:19] <@NeilAway> Ms2ger: ta
# [11:19] <Ms2ger> Np
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# [11:32] <ttaubert> Ms2ger: the ping stuff seems like it should be moved out of nsDocShell ideally, shouldn't it?
# [11:32] <Ms2ger> I have no idea
# [11:33] <ttaubert> ok I can file a bug and ask bz. it seems very self-contained and doesn't need to blow up nsDocShell.cpp any further, IMO
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# [11:38] <gwagner> peterv: ping
# [11:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e3833e72310 - Nicolas B. Pierron - no bug - Add Missing namespace. r=jonco
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# [11:48] <gwagner> Ms2ger: ping
# [11:48] <Ms2ger> ?
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# [11:49] <gwagner> Ms2ger: you know webidl right?
# [11:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92772cf08f61 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 928378 - Add description of post-barriers r=billm
# [11:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/661aa3848628 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 950617 - Fix test code to not assume existence of TypedObject r=sfink
# [11:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0850bf665bd2 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 950722 - Add a test for interaction between WeakMap and moving GC r=terrence
# [11:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff89e684ff19 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 930427 - Don't allow merge of debugger-visible compartments r=billm
# [11:50] <Ms2ger> Sure
# [11:52] <gwagner> Ms2ger: We have gaia tests failures here: https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/blob/master/shared/js/screen_layout.js#L95 the error is: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=950523#c9 and it is caused by the patch in bug 950523
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# [11:53] <gwagner> Ms2ger: any idea whats going on and if there is a quick fix or if I should back out?
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# [11:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b57ad1e78fe - Henri Sivonen - Bug 848842 - Stop using heuristic detection in the File API. r=bzbarsky.
# [11:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/81a5cd771bfe - Henri Sivonen - Bug 949345 - Gather telemetry about non-default Cyrillic legacy encodings. r=emk,f=sstamm.
# [11:56] <Ms2ger> Sorry, looking now
# [11:57] <Ms2ger> Oh, dammit
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# [11:57] <Ms2ger> Yeah, back it out
# [11:57] <Ms2ger> gwagner, ^
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# [11:58] <gwagner> Ms2ger: k. thx for looking
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# [11:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gwagner: do you want to backout or shall i and merge i tback ot the trees
# [11:59] <gwagner> Tomcat|sheriffduty: oh that would be great!
# [11:59] <gwagner> Tomcat|sheriffduty: bug 950523
# [11:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok so https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3fb12cbb6c96 and https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3f48392a6250 i guess
# [11:59] <gwagner> Tomcat|sheriffduty: yes. thx!
# [12:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok
# [12:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> will do :)
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# [12:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm Ms2ger backout don't work
# [12:07] <Ms2ger> ?!
# [12:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: https://tomcat.pastebin.mozilla.org/3795826 is the error
# [12:07] <Ms2ger> Hrm
# [12:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> and https://tomcat.pastebin.mozilla.org/3795828 the reject file
# [12:08] <Ms2ger> Actually, I think I have figured out a test fix we could also do
# [12:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah cool
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# [12:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/32ad0b1d8a3f - Jacek Caban - Bug 945292 - Makefile.in part. r=glandium
# [12:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a33a6499fcc - Jacek Caban - Bug 945216 - Fixed mozglue/ compilation on mingw. r=glandium
# [12:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5eaf6fe48be2 - Jacek Caban - Bug 949821 - Use L... for wchar_t* strings.
# [12:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bfeb49413f4e - Jacek Caban - Bug 943870 - Constify aDataBuff in CreatePrimitiveForData. r=ehsan
# [12:10] <Ms2ger> gwagner, something like... this.boundHandleChange = this.handleChange.bind(this); this.queries[name].addListener(this.boundHandleChange);, and then this.queries[name].removeListener(this.boundHandleChange);
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# [12:16] <gwagner> Ms2ger: will try
# [12:16] <gwagner> Hm bug 950657 changed the code as well
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# [12:26] <hsivonen> Do we really not have API for resetting a pref? Is the right way to get the default value and set the pref to that value?
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# [12:30] <lpy> ttaubert: ping
# [12:30] <ttaubert> lpy: yes?
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# [12:31] <lpy> ttaubert: Hi. I am asking for try server access, level 1, could you please vouch for me?
# [12:32] <darkowlzzz> how do I build firefox with preinstalled addons?
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# [12:34] <ttaubert> lpy: sure :)
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# [12:34] <Ms2ger> glandium, yt?
# [12:35] <lpy> ttaubert: thank you very much! :) here is the link https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=951111
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# [12:40] <hsivonen> ah. we call it "clearing" a pref instead of "resetting" a pref
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# [12:42] <peterv> gwagner: pong
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# [12:53] <peterv> Ms2ger: hmm, do you understand what that handleChange is trying to do when comparing .media?
# [12:53] <Ms2ger> peterv, I haven't really looked at the code itself
# [12:54] <peterv> Ms2ger: hmm, ok, it seems like we might be able to not need to bind if htat's bogus
# [12:55] <Ms2ger> Well, gaia... Not going to assume it's not bogus :)
# [12:56] <peterv> right, it just seems like the passing of the MediaQueryList as an argument to the handleChange callback has a reason :-)
# [12:56] <peterv> so you don't need to keep state
# [12:56] <Ms2ger> Oh, we do that?
# [12:56] * Ms2ger missed it
# [12:56] <peterv> well, that's in the spec, no?
# [12:57] <peterv> callback MediaQueryListListener = void (MediaQueryList list);
# [12:57] <peterv> ah, hmm
# [12:57] <Ms2ger> Sure
# [12:57] <peterv> they use the name
# [12:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2276d48392c6 - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia-central revision(s) a=gaia-bump
# [12:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bdf36671b09c - Fernando Jiménez - Bug 950631 - ReferenceError: credentials is not defined in FxAccounts.jsm. r=jedp
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# [12:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cd35ef59eae0 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge b2g-inbound to mozilla-central
# [12:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b2534d128e42 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 949398: fix missing MarionetteTestOptions. r=jgriffin
# [12:58] <peterv> Ms2ger: bleh, nevermind, I don't care :-)
# [12:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e27d451baafd - Wes Kocher - Merge m-c to b2g-inbound
# [12:58] <gwagner> peterv: It was about the webidl fun :)
# [12:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/57a24462a7eb - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia-central revision(s) a=gaia-bump
# [12:58] <Ms2ger> Me neither :)
# [12:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b4ccf273d273 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 96b0ddfc63f7 (bug 893304) for causing bug 950589.
# [12:58] <gwagner> It seems we are getting rid of the listeners: bug 950659
# [12:58] <peterv> er, no, we aren't
# [12:59] <peterv> gwagner: it's on WebIDL, so removing them from XPIDL doesn't affect JS callers
# [13:00] <Ms2ger> But you can bet some binary addons come up in a few months...
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# [13:01] <gwagner> hm so this doesn't fix it: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3796086
# [13:02] <Ms2ger> Doesn't how
# [13:02] <Ms2ger> ?
# [13:03] <gwagner> oh
# [13:03] <gwagner> let me check again. I have to build a new profile
# [13:04] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gwagner: btw this bug is the reason why the gaia tree is closed right
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# [13:04] <gwagner> Tomcat|sheriffduty: yes
# [13:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah ok only heard its closed and wondered because b2g-i was/is open :)
# [13:05] <peterv> it might work to just set the name as a property on the list itself and not refer to |this| in handleChange
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# [13:11] <gwagner> Ms2ger: seems to work \o/
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# [13:11] <Ms2ger> Great :)
# [13:12] <peterv> gwagner: cool, this might be a little simpler but don't know if it works: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3796137
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# [13:14] <gwagner> peterv: so just add: this.queries[name].name = name; ?
# [13:14] <peterv> well, and use it in handleChange
# [13:15] <Fallen> I created a new Proxy(xpcomObj, { get: function(target, name) { if (name == "bla") { return something; } else { return target[name] } } }); now when I do dump(myProxy); I get "proxy must report the same value for a non-writable, non-configurable property". What does it mean?
# [13:15] <peterv> and register/unregiter handleChange instead of this
# [13:15] <peterv> gwagner: anyway, probably too risky for a bustage fix
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# [13:21] <Fallen> ah, its a bug
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# [13:27] <gwagner> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I think we have a fix. lets hope the PR is green.
# [13:27] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gwagner: cool
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# [13:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gwagner: i informed also now the other sheriffs about the closure of the gaia tree and regression in bug 950523 just in case we can help
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# [13:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning edmorley :)
# [13:29] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: good morning :-)
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# [13:29] <Ms2ger> Hi Mr Physio :)
# [13:30] <gwagner> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thx. I also noticed that for our 1.3 branch on gaia we pull b2g-desktop from current trunk. that doesnt work
# [13:30] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gwagner: so the patch has to land also on central ?
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# [13:31] <gwagner> Tomcat|sheriffduty: no it's just how we run tests on travis. for 1.3 gaia we should pull b2g-desktop from aurora and not from trunk. but thats a setting in travis
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# [13:32] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah ok
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# [13:46] <gwagner> Ms2ger: yeah its bad
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# [13:53] <jandem> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ping
# [13:53] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jandem: pong
# [13:54] <jandem> Tomcat|sheriffduty: --disable-threadsafe shell builds are broken atm. Is it ok if I land a simple/NPOTB patch on mozilla-central to unbreak them?
# [13:54] <jandem> Tomcat|sheriffduty: the fuzzers use m-c
# [13:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yah thats fine for me
# [13:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: ^ fyi
# [13:55] <edmorley> k
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# [13:56] <jandem> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thanks (the fuzzers use --disable-threadsafe builds)
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# [14:21] <Ms2ger> gwagner, that's a nicer word than I'd have used :)
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# [14:34] <julienw> gwagner, Ms2ger : using aurora is actually just a pull request away
# [14:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f3bcbf58111e - Mats Palmgren - Bug 947158 - Implement DrainSelfOverflowList for nsInlineFrame and nsFirstLineFrame. r=bz
# [14:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dacb4796c71c - Mats Palmgren - Bug 950444 - Make setRangeText() work for a collapsed range. r=ehsan
# [14:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec75b7fa7301 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 950444 - Fix some indentation and code style issues in setRangeText. r=ehsan
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# [14:35] <gwagner> julienw: bug 951128 ?
# [14:35] <julienw> gwagner, I can take it, yep
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# [14:35] <gwagner> julienw: yeah its a one-line change
# [14:36] <julienw> I was reacting on "a setting in travis" :)
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# [14:38] <gwagner> julienw: you declared war on setTimeouts :)
# [14:38] <gwagner> nice
# [14:38] <Ms2ger> Excellent
# [14:39] <julienw> yeah
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# [14:43] <gwagner> julienw: https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/pull/14758/files
# [14:43] <gwagner> julienw: I just wanted to see how I can make a PR for a specific branch :)
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# [14:46] <julienw> gwagner, you chose them at the top of the pull request form
# [14:46] <gwagner> julienw: now I know :)
# [14:47] <julienw> gwagner, you need the channel "prerelease" too
# [14:47] <julienw> gwagner, and oyu need to change firefox for unit tests as well :)
# [14:47] <julienw> gwagner, I'm doing it and I can ask you review if you want ?
# [14:47] <gwagner> julienw: sure
# [14:48] <gwagner> julienw: I will merge afterwards. Lets hope that fixes the 1.3 failures
# [14:48] <gwagner> julienw: I don't want to reopen the trees with all the 1.3 failures
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# [14:51] <julienw> gwagner, https://travis-ci.org/mozilla-b2g/gaia/builds/15584999 :)
# [14:52] <julienw> I didn't see the tree was closed :p
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# [14:55] <julienw> gwagner, we should have a easier flag in a conf file, and it should be part of the branching steps
# [14:56] <gwagner> julienw: some people say a closed gaia tree is the default now :)
# [14:56] <gwagner> julienw: but yes we need better branching tools
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# [14:57] <julienw> if "some people" were paying attention to tests, maybe we would not be in that situation
# [14:58] <julienw> ;)
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# [14:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nope zzzzz :)
# [14:59] <bkero> Heya. Think you guys could help us load test an etherpad replacement? We want to see how it scales. https://owncloud.bke.ro:4430/public.php?service=documents&t=332e3af12319003f8bdc57595155a78e#865
# [14:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> (Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer) :)
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# [15:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> julienw: let us know when we can help at least b2g-inbound seems fine most of the time the last days
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# [15:00] <padenot> bkero: this server is sloooow
# [15:01] <bkero> padenot: It's in the US. I'm talking with the devs about it appearing slow.
# [15:01] <padenot> I'm talking 4700ms request slow
# [15:02] <bkero> Really?
# [15:02] <padenot> yeah
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# [15:02] <padenot> same on chrome
# [15:02] <julienw> Tomcat|sheriffduty, we need our b2g tests to run on tbpl :( don't know what is the tate of this lately
# [15:02] <julienw> *state
# [15:02] <padenot> even slower, in fac
# [15:03] <bkero> I think it's doing a full history playback to get you up to speed. :/
# [15:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 11979ms]
# [15:03] <julienw> the first load is quite long yep
# [15:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> so yeah slow :(
# [15:03] <bkero> Wow, ok
# [15:03] <padenot> bkero: also, first thing I tried was to ctrl+a, ctrl+c, ctrl+v v v v v
# [15:03] <padenot> and it froze my chrome and my firefox
# [15:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86969d38372b - Jan de Mooij - Bug 922681 - Add SetInnerHTML fast path for short strings with no markup. r=bz
# [15:04] <padenot> I'll stick with etherpad :-)
# [15:04] <bkero> This is the new WebODF standard
# [15:04] <padenot> in fact, it manager to completly destroy my chrome instance, I can't even close the tab
# [15:04] <bkero> They've got a ways to go it seems, heh.
# [15:05] <julienw> it's more a word-like editor (which is fine) than a simple text editor (that is etherpad)
# [15:05] <julienw> I want etherpad lite :p
# [15:05] <julienw> oh yeah, ctrl-V is really slow
# [15:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> julienw: yeah i think its on the radars to sync with tbpl but yeah also not sure what the status is
# [15:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f2c8d212def - Chris Lord - Bug 950696 - Cache the 'enable tiles' layers pref. r=bgirard
# [15:06] <bkero> ctrl-v was really slow when I pasted the apache license in there.
# [15:06] <till> bkero: for me it's much faster. First request to public.php 882ms, second 641ms, third 676ms
# [15:06] <bkero> till, julienw: So currently evey edit to the page is replayed on page load. Next version they're just going to send a snapshot.
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# [15:08] <julienw> bkelly, once loaded, it was really fine when editing small chunks of text
# [15:08] <till> bkero: uh, scratch that. After actually logging in, everything just crawls. Even loading the font
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# [15:08] <till> bkero: it's pretty, though :)
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# [15:10] <bkero> till: It's actually like pdf.js rendering an odf file. http://aditya.bhatts.org/2013/12/16/bringing-opendocument-to-the-web/
# [15:11] <bkelly> anyone know of anything significant that landed yesterday, was backed out, and then relanded today? :-)
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# [15:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bkelly: anything specific :)
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# [15:14] <till> bkero: oooh, very nice!
# [15:15] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty, well, just thought I would ask before bisecting the regression shown here: http://mzl.la/19vllrb
# [15:15] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty, I can't seem to keep up with bisecting the perf regressions lately :-(
# [15:16] <bkelly> it could be gaia too
# [15:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bd02651de80b - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 949445 - Part 1: Move selectionLanguageChange to nsISelectionPrivate; r=bzbarsky
# [15:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/12aeb83eaee7 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 949445 - Part 2: Move Selection to WebIDL; r=bzbarsky
# [15:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8f9955d5f6b1 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 949445 - Part 3: Remove the classinfo for Selection; r=bzbarsky
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# [15:18] <paul> hsivonen: ^
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# [15:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bkelly: hm gaia had issues today with a regression from bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=950523#c12
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# [15:19] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty, ah, yea... I read on the lists that tests were failing due to a gecko change... I think this is probably gfx issue since the regression does not show on inari
# [15:20] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty, hamachi has different gfx hardware than inari
# [15:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah ok
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# [15:42] <hsivonen> paul: the error detection code runs only for View Source--not during normal parse--so no
# [15:42] <firebot> Check-in:
# [15:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/adfa9fa90fd9 - Till Schneidereit - Bug 911400 - Create OpaqueWrappers when wrapping objects for use in the self-hosting global and OpaqueWrapperWithCalls when wrapping self-hosted function for use in
# [15:42] <firebot> other compartments. r=bholley
# [15:43] <hsivonen> paul: but it might be feasible to run the error reporting code if the dev tools are already open during the page load
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# [15:43] <hsivonen> paul: or if someone shows the perf impact doesn't matter, we could run the error reporting code all the time
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# [15:57] <paul> hsivonen: so the page is re-parsed on viewsource?
# [15:58] <KWierso|afk> Tomcat|sheriffduty: you doing anything about the orange on bc7c6b533d50 on inbound?
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# [15:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> KWierso|afk: yeah closed the tree and nbp is fixing :)
# [15:59] * KWierso|afk apparently accidentally set that alarm for that appointment tonight for 6:30am instead of the desired 6:30pm :(
# [15:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> KWierso|afk: yeah wondered if now timezones crashed :)
# [16:00] <hsivonen> paul: yes
# [16:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> KWierso|afk: they are working in #jsapi on this :)
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# [16:01] <KWierso|afk> stupid alarm
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# [16:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f541dfa1a41 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 940965 - Do not use Unagi's GC settings by default. r=h4writer
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# [16:21] <jimm> what do we call the three slash toolbar button in desktop that brings up the drop down options panel?
# [16:21] <padenot> a hamburger button
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# [16:21] <RyanVM> the chrome button
# [16:21] <jimm> man that's aweful
# [16:21] <padenot> ah?
# [16:21] <jimm> ha
# [16:21] <padenot> I mean, in generic design term, it is certainly a hamburger button
# [16:22] <Ms2ger> We can call it the khuey button
# [16:22] <padenot> I'd prefer the Persona button
# [16:22] <jimm> "options drop down panel toolbar button" ?
# [16:22] <padenot> so we are consistent
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# [16:22] <RyanVM> jimm: why did you repurpose our generic dumping ground bug instead of filing a new one for the specific shutdown timeout you were looking at?
# [16:22] <nbp> padenot: only at noon, otherwise this is a Stratum button
# [16:22] <nbp> padenot: ^ the hamburger button
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# [16:23] <nbp> padenot: unless you have an addon to convert it to a hamburger …
# [16:23] <RyanVM> jimm: we've been using bug 918759 for a lot more than metro timeouts for months now
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# [16:24] <jimm> RyanVM: that's why I labeled it as such a filed a new bug for Ubuntu issues
# [16:24] <RyanVM> jimm: it's more than ubuntu too
# [16:24] <jimm> which were intermixed with the metro reports
# [16:24] <RyanVM> it's windows and osx as well
# [16:25] <RyanVM> seriously, it's been a generic dumping ground for all platforms for months
# [16:25] <jimm> ah, well, morph the new bug to your hearts content
# [16:25] <jimm> well, I want to concentrate on the metro issues in one bug
# [16:25] * RyanVM wonders why we need to morph the new bug instead of a new bug being filed for the one specific issue in the first place...
# [16:25] <jimm> so whatever, I can file a new one if you want that blocks your generictracking
# [16:25] <jimm> ..generic tracking bug
# [16:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/75c1a7b42755 - Patrick McManus - bug 950906 - http log needs [al/n]pn info r=hurley
# [16:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/77e658ad2c26 - Patrick McManus - bug 950910 - http default reason phrases r=hurley
# [16:26] <RyanVM> jimm: why not repurpose the bug you filed
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# [16:26] <RyanVM> and change the old one back to what it was
# [16:26] <jimm> fine with me
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# [16:27] <RyanVM> jimm: wfm, thanks :)
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# [16:28] <jimm> I can't seem to find the ununtu bug no
# [16:28] <jimm> ack
# [16:28] <jimm> ubuntu + now
# [16:29] <jimm> awesome bar to the rescue
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# [16:33] <jimm> doubt it. ours is related to omtc.
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# [16:38] <no_gravity> Hello! When I use a lot of canvases in javascript, firefox brings down my whole computer. Mousepointer freezes. No way to interact with it anymore. Until the "unresponsive script" thingy comes up. Is it possible to run Firefox with a setting to only use up to 90% of the computers resources, so I can continue using other programs?
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# [16:39] <jimm> RyanVM: kind of sad that that has sat untouched for so long
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# [16:39] <RyanVM> jimm: not surprised that nobody wants to touch a generic shutdown hang bug with no steps to reproduce that could have different causes on different platforms
# [16:40] <jesup> gps: ping - any idea why I'd get
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# [16:42] <Ms2ger> I've seen people hit that in #ateam
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# [16:42] <Ms2ger> Search in http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=mozilla%23ateam?
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# [16:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97a3f38d2959 - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 853973 - If a plugin is overlayed by other content on the page, then treat it as a hidden plugin: hide the overlay and present the infobar for click-to-play or
# [16:59] <firebot> crashed plugins, r=jaws
# [16:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0be09b045302 - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 932832 - click-to-play not discoverable for Google Hangouts video plugin because it is positioned at -40000,-40000. Check for positioning and treat this as a
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# [17:07] <@ted> RyanVM: hm, that username got mangled
# [17:08] <RyanVM> ted: yeah, not the first time
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# [17:08] <Ms2ger> Yay, encodings
# [17:08] <RyanVM> unicode often doesn't end well
# [17:08] <RyanVM> pretty sure there's bugs on file for such issues
# [17:09] <@ted> i'm going to start using emoji in my username
# [17:09] <Ms2ger> Back to :luser?
# [17:10] <RyanVM> mcmanus: any reason for those patches to land on m-c directly?
# [17:10] <RyanVM> oh, not around
# [17:10] <RyanVM> fun
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# [17:10] <@ted> :💩
# [17:10] <Ms2ger> Is that the pile of poo?
# [17:10] <RyanVM> nice
# [17:11] <@ted> yup
# [17:11] <@ted> maybe you need a font for it?
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# [17:11] <@ted> i got you covered: http://people.mozilla.org/~tmielczarek/poopfont/
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# [17:12] <RyanVM> actually, the robocop one was taken care of
# [17:12] <smontagu> ted++ for all your poop needs
# [17:12] <RyanVM> yay, 1/3 :)
# [17:12] <Ms2ger> Better than the average 0
# [17:12] <@ted> smontagu: hm, now i just need a font with Unicode 7.0's MAN IN BUSINESS SUIT LEVITATING
# [17:12] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: well, I guess the other 2 were "dealt with" in that they were skipped :P
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# [17:14] <firebot> r=smichaud
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# [17:25] <@bz> man
# [17:25] <@bz> why do we have gaia smoketests catching basic issues?
# [17:25] <@bz> As in, why was there no automated test? :(
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# [17:39] <@smaug> I wonder why js/* is occasionally recompiled after a successful build
# [17:39] <@smaug> I mean, do a clobber build, everything is fine
# [17:39] <@smaug> do a small change to somewhere in content/ for example, run make -f client.mk build and js/* gets build too
# [17:40] <@smaug> (yes yes, might not need make -f client.mk build, but that is not the point)
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# [17:40] <mikeratcliffe> Does anybody know why SVG in a XUL deck would render as black rectangles?
# [17:40] <mikeratcliffe> https://gist.github.com/MikeRatcliffe/8007839
# [17:40] <mikeratcliffe> http://i.imgur.com/gdNVOhO.png
# [17:41] <serge> gavin: hi, I used hg annotate to find that you worked on openURI() in browser.js. Can I ask you about an issue I'm having that I haven't been able to solve in the last few days?
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# [17:42] <@smaug> RyanVM: could you perhaps push Bug 950930
# [17:43] <@bz> RyanVM: hmm?
# [17:43] <@smaug> I don't have a clean tree atm
# [17:43] <RyanVM> smaug: sure
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# [17:45] <RyanVM> smaug: "Tear down mBoundElement properly" ?
# [17:46] <@bz> RyanVM: Ah, yeah
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# [17:46] <@bz> RyanVM: but that reason is starting to wear thin....
# [17:46] <@smaug> RyanVM: "Don't run scripts without mBoundElement"
# [17:46] <RyanVM> smaug: thanks
# [17:46] <@smaug> or some such
# [17:46] <RyanVM> bz: preaching to the choir on that one ;)
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# [17:48] <RyanVM> smaug: can this wait for tomorrow's nightly or should we direct-land and respin?
# [17:48] <@smaug> RyanVM: it is the topcrasher atm
# [17:48] <RyanVM> k, let's respin then
# [17:49] * @smaug hopes it helps :) it should
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# [18:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f542c81e7e31 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 945241 - Add test rs=test
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# [18:31] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM: ping
# [18:31] <RyanVM> bsmedberg: pong
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# [18:32] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM: I'm checking out the mochitest failure from bug 943519 and it appears to be b2g-only at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=01de929d4b85
# [18:32] <@bsmedberg> is that correct and also is there a simple way to see the next few builds before the backout?
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# [18:32] <RyanVM> bsmedberg: yes, was b2g-only
# [18:32] <RyanVM> and the green arrow should work for what you want
# [18:33] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM: hrm, I only have a down arrow at that link...
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# [18:33] <RyanVM> yes, and it'll load more csets
# [18:33] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM: but those are the ones *before* the bad one, not after it
# [18:34] <RyanVM> load the backout in tbpl and hit the green arrow/
# [18:34] <RyanVM> ?
# [18:34] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=b2c07abf977a
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# [18:35] <@bsmedberg> oh the backout
# [18:35] <RyanVM> "is that correct and also is there a simple way to see the next few builds before the backout?"
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# [18:37] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM: sorry, the link wasn't for the backout so I didn't think to look at that
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# [18:37] <RyanVM> bsmedberg: OK, so you found what you need? :)
# [18:37] <@bsmedberg> yes, thanks
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# [18:37] <RyanVM> great! :)
# [18:37] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM: would it be hard to add an up arrow ;-)
# [18:37] <RyanVM> no clue
# [18:37] <RyanVM> probably more than it seems
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# [18:38] <@bsmedberg> yeah, that's always how it works
# [18:38] <RyanVM> seems that way
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# [18:39] <sfink> from what I know about the current code -- yes, that would be hard. tbpl makes lots of assumptions about what results are already loaded.
# [18:40] <sfink> I had to scuttle a working patch because of it
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# [18:44] <@bsmedberg> ok, now to figure out how to build something like "B2G ICS Emulator Opt"
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# [18:45] <@smaug> tn: I don't have more ideas how to fix that test
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# [18:54] <hub> bsmedberg: ./config.sh emulator in B2G
# [18:54] <@bsmedberg> hsivonen: ping
# [18:55] <mib_k9ovw5> i know django ...i want to contribute to mozila ...where can i get guidence?
# [18:55] <kats> firebot: contribute
# [18:55] <firebot> kats: To get involved with mozilla in various ways, see http://www.mozilla.org/contribute/ and https://wiki.mozilla.org/Webmaker/Teach and /join #introduction
# [18:55] <kats> mib_k9ovw5: ^
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# [19:04] <matthewgertner> mayhemer: ping
# [19:05] <mayhemer> matthewgertner: hallo :)
# [19:05] <matthewgertner> hey Honza
# [19:05] <matthewgertner> how's it going?
# [19:05] <mayhemer> matthewgertner: how are you?
# [19:05] <matthewgertner> do you by any chance know anything about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=862856?
# [19:05] <matthewgertner> I'm good :-)
# [19:05] <matthewgertner> I've tried nudging the bug a couple of times but no one seems interested
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# [19:05] <matthewgertner> is it not possible to get accurate timings for DNS resolution and connecting anymore?
# [19:07] <mayhemer> matthewgertner: I think it's because we do speculative connections
# [19:07] <matthewgertner> is there a pref to turn them off?
# [19:07] <mayhemer> matthewgertner: then the channel doesn't get the dns and conencting events
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# [19:08] <matthewgertner> we have one extension that measures web site performance
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# [19:08] <matthewgertner> so we'd like to not do speculative connections in that case
# [19:08] <matthewgertner> it's probably important for other people who do performance measurement as well
# [19:09] <Honza> matthewgertner: yeah, for Firebug too
# [19:09] <matthewgertner> hey :-)
# [19:09] <matthewgertner> I figured you probably had the same problem
# [19:09] <matthewgertner> maybe you should comment on that bug
# [19:09] <Honza> yeah
# [19:09] <matthewgertner> you're more important than I am ;-)
# [19:09] <Honza> (I am in a meeting now)
# [19:09] <matthewgertner> aha: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=814169
# [19:10] <matthewgertner> WONTFIX :-(
# [19:10] <mayhemer> Honza: matthewgertner: there is also the new perfomance API, but that is primarily targetted for content, not for extensions
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# [19:10] <mayhemer> matthewgertner: let me check around the pref...
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# [19:11] <matthewgertner> mayhemer: does the performance API get the right DNS and connecting times?
# [19:11] <@NeilAway> firebot: tell kats about tell
# [19:11] <firebot> NeilAway: told kats
# [19:11] <matthewgertner> I can't see how it would do it if the requests already happened speculatively
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# [19:11] <mayhemer> matthewgertner: yep, it should get all you need
# [19:11] <kats> firebot: you didn't tell me nuttin'
# [19:11] <firebot> kats: Sorry, I've no idea what 'you didn't tell me nuttin'' might be.
# [19:12] <kats> oh wait my bad
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# [19:14] <matthewgertner> mayhemer: ok we'll have to check that
# [19:14] <matthewgertner> I also commented on the pref bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=814169#c15
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# [19:17] <mayhemer> matthewgertner: I also did
# [19:17] <matthewgertner> hmmm, ok
# [19:17] <matthewgertner> we'll try that
# [19:17] <matthewgertner> thanks!
# [19:17] <matthewgertner> lunch@Andel is on me :-)
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# [19:26] <dustin> jmaher: I'm still happy to help with the 10.6 talos issue if you want to point me at sometihng
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# [19:27] <jmaher> dustin: I am digging into another angle, just a bit stuck as to why this timeout started up out of the blue
# [19:28] <Ms2ger> http://imgur.com/gallery/Zmuzg62
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# [19:29] <dustin> jmaher: got a hostname and a time?
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# [19:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9defe3666015 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 951207 - Rename the chromium LOG macro to CHROMIUM_LOG; r=bent
# [19:30] <jmaher> dustin: I have a whole list of them: http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/orangefactor/index.html?display=Bug&tree=trunk&startday=2013-12-10&endday=2013-12-17&bugid=798219
# [19:31] <philor> the mozprocess timestamps in xpcshell logs are bogus because we just dump the log all at once, and things don't all happen within one second, right?
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# [19:38] <gps> ehsan: just to confirm, your recent changes to webidl foo didn't encounter any weird build issues, did they?
# [19:39] <@ehsan> hmm
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# [19:39] <@ehsan> gps: I wasn't watching the tree closely but I don't think so!
# [19:39] <@ehsan> I did two of those changes
# [19:39] <@bz> gps: btw, can we try relanding that change to do lazy importing?
# [19:39] <@ehsan> one yesteerday and one today morning
# [19:39] <gps> bz: I just pushed it to try
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# [19:40] <gps> bz: getting webidl right is still high on my priority list
# [19:40] <gps> bz: the actual build failures reported yesterday were higher priority
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# [19:42] <@bz> gps: Makes total sense
# [19:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/767fa5332415 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 951216. Avoid unnecessary Snapshot() copies by clearing the pattern. r=Bas
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# [19:46] <tn> smaug: waiting for a resize event and a paint event (in any order) after the maximize didn't work?
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# [19:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ecc8eaeac93a - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 948757 - Don't flood servers with bunches of speculative connections. r=mcmanus
# [19:50] <@smaug> tn: the test is waiting for paints already
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# [19:50] <@smaug> and the patch which added resize event too there, doesn't help
# [19:50] <tn> smaug: but do we wait for the resize first, and then start waiting for paints?
# [19:50] <@smaug> tn: and I pushed a debugging patch to try to catch all the events
# [19:50] <@smaug> and didn't get anything useful
# [19:51] <dustin> jmaher: at least on the most recent, I'm not seeing anything system-level.
# [19:51] <dustin> but "09:33:58 INFO - Error in collecting counter: Private Bytes, pid: 866, exception: list index out of range" looks odd, from my read of the code
# [19:51] <@smaug> tn: we have the paint count
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# [19:51] <dustin> jmaher: that's from "return self.registeredCounters[counterName][0](self.pid)", meaning [0] is the bad list index, but that list should always be of length 2
# [19:51] <@smaug> one option is to check the paint count before maximize and then after resize and wait until we have some paint
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# [19:52] <@smaug> that didn't help
# [19:52] <dustin> jmaher: it looks like htat failure should be harmless, though
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# [19:52] <@smaug> other was to resize and then check paint count and wait for a new paint, that didn't help either
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# [19:54] <jmaher> dustin: I see that on and off, then it hangs for 40 minutes and times out
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# [19:54] <jmaher> dustin: hard to tell if this is something related to the code or the environment
# [19:54] <tn> smaug: what if we call maximize, then wait for at least one paint, and at least one resize event, and then proceed with the rest of the test?
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# [19:55] <cpeterson> khuey: ping
# [19:55] <dustin> jmaher: yeah.. and it looks like hte effect of that exception should be the same as the warning above
# [19:55] <dustin> getCounterValue returns None
# [19:55] <@smaug> tn: I guess I could try still that
# [19:55] <@khuey> cpeterson: pong
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# [19:56] <dustin> jmaher: do you have a screenshot while hung? is that easy to get e.g., on try?
# [19:56] <cpeterson> khuey: are there nightly builds of m-c that do not include --enable-profiling?
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# [19:56] <@khuey> cpeterson: 302 ehsan
# [19:56] <tn> smaug: okay, if that doesn't work i'll stop making this so difficult :)
# [19:56] <cpeterson> khuey: I'm trying to find nightly builds that can be benchmarked on equal footing with Firefox release channels.
# [19:57] <cpeterson> khuey thx
# [19:57] <@khuey> I believe the profiling branch builds do not include --enable-profiling
# [19:57] <@khuey> ehsan can confirm
# [19:57] <@ehsan> cpeterson: 500 Internel Server Errpr
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# [19:57] <@khuey> ehsan: :D
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# [19:57] <@ehsan> cpeterson: but seriously, no sorry I killed them not too long ago
# [19:57] <cpeterson> wget ehsan
# [19:57] <@ehsan> those were produced on the profiling branch
# [19:57] <@ehsan> which is now dead
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# [19:58] <@ehsan> cpeterson: unfortunately you're gonna have to do your own builds :/
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# [19:59] <cpeterson> ehsan: do both nightly and aurora use the same mozconfigs? For local builds, is there anything I should remove from the standard nightly mozconfig besides --enable-profiling to remove benchmark overhead?
# [19:59] <jmaher> dustin: it isn't too easy to get, but that is a good idea- I can patch up talos to do that
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# [19:59] <@ehsan> cpeterson: their build configs are different
# [19:59] <@ehsan> cpeterson: you probably want --disable-unified-compilation
# [20:00] <@ehsan> and drop --enable-profiling
# [20:00] <@ehsan> I think that's mostly it
# [20:00] <cpeterson> ehsan: hmm I don't see "aurora" mozconfigs in browser/config/mozconfigs/
# [20:00] <@ehsan> (oh, and on Windows and Linux, you need to do a PGO build of course)
# [20:00] <@ehsan> cpeterson: they live in that directory on *aurora* :P
# [20:00] <cpeterson> of course
# [20:00] <@ehsan> (yeah, we modify the files to drop --enable-profiling during the uplift, I know!)
# [20:01] <@ehsan> and yes, that is my fault, thankyouverymuch
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# [20:01] <cpeterson> Looks like I would might want to remove --enable-js-diagnostics and maybe --enable-instruments from nightly mozconfig, too
# [20:01] <@ehsan> hmm
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# [20:01] <@ehsan> cpeterson: honestly I'd just take the aurora mozconfig verbatim
# [20:02] <@ehsan> and add --disable-unified-compilation to it
# [20:02] <@ehsan> that's your best bet I think
# [20:02] <cpeterson> ehsan: that sounds easier. thank you!
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# [20:23] <@bz> Do we have a way to get profiles on android?
# [20:23] <@bz> And if so, who would know how to do it?
# [20:23] <gcp> uh, there's an add-on I think
# [20:23] <gcp> mfinkle or wesj: ^^^
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# [20:25] <@smaug> BenWa: ^
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# [20:25] <wesj> margaret: wrote one actually &
# [20:26] <wesj> oh wait, real profiles :)
# [20:26] <wesj> nvm
# [20:26] <wesj> bz: the desktop profiler just works with android
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# [20:27] <@bz> wesj: hmm
# [20:27] * @bz tries to find an android thing
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# [20:30] <jchen> bz: if you need c++ profiling, you'd want the desktop add-on here, https://github.com/bgirard/Gecko-Profiler-Addon and use it to connect to fennec
# [20:30] <BenWa> Yes, ^^
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# [20:31] <BenWa> bz: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Performance/Profiling_with_the_Built-in_Profiler#Profiling_Firefox_mobile
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# [20:33] <@bsmedberg> bholley: do you have any idea how http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/annotate/63df4b1287c0/js/xpconnect/src/XPCCallContext.cpp#l80 might be crashing dereferencing 0x0, probably in low-mem conditions?
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# [20:33] <@bz> I need C++ profiling
# [20:33] <@bz> absolutely
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# [20:33] <BenWa> bz: This will show you leaf functions
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# [20:34] <@bz> leaf in what sense?
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# [20:34] <@bz> hmm
# [20:34] <BenWa> bz: the pc when the program was stopped, plus any active pseudo labels active
# [20:34] <@bz> so I can't profile an android nightly?
# [20:34] <@bz> Need to build my own?
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# [20:34] <BenWa> bz: You can but youll need the ndk and whatnot
# [20:34] <@bz> ok
# [20:35] * @bz thinks he has those from building b2g....
# [20:35] <BenWa> yes you should have all you need
# [20:35] <@bz> Or I can needinfo mfinkle and hope he finds someone with an existing profiling setup... ;)
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# [20:35] <BenWa> bz: it should be really easy TBH
# [20:35] <BenWa> but you wont get full unwinds
# [20:35] <bholley> bsmedberg: sec
# [20:35] <@bz> I can probably survive that in this case
# [20:35] <@bz> maybe
# [20:35] <BenWa> b2g gets those but they get lost somewhat often
# [20:36] <mfinkle> bz, do it
# [20:36] <BenWa> bz: So skip step 1 then, it should take 5 mins
# [20:36] <mfinkle> needinfo me if you need to
# [20:36] <@bz> BenWa: just finding my android device will take longer than 5 mins
# [20:36] <@bz> benwa: fwiw
# [20:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9872d86dfa0c - Gregory Szorc - Bug 774572 - Part 2: Define JAR_MANIFESTS in moz.build files; r=glandium
# [20:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/940b2974f35b - Gregory Szorc - Bug 774572 - Part 1: Support for defining JAR manifests in moz.build; r=glandium
# [20:37] * @bz moves on for now, will come back to this in January if no one has gotten to it before then
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# [20:37] <@bz> benwa: thank you for the docs link, btw
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# [20:37] <BenWa> alright well I don't have a gps feature ;)
# [20:37] <BenWa> np
# [20:38] <@bz> heh
# [20:38] <Ms2ger> gps, sure you waught them all? :)
# [20:38] <@bz> you probably don't have an insta-charge feature too
# [20:38] <@bz> since I bet it has a dead battery like it normally does...
# [20:39] <bholley> bsmedberg: if mFlatJSObject was null
# [20:39] <bholley> bsmedberg: because GetFlatJSObject unmarks gray
# [20:39] <bholley> bsmedberg: before returning
# [20:39] <bholley> bsmedberg: we could add a null check
# [20:39] * mccr8 briefly panics, then remembers his patch isn't on beta
# [20:39] <@bsmedberg> bholley: hrm, don't worry about it yet
# [20:40] <@bsmedberg> I'll track and see if it's common
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# [20:40] <bholley> bsmedberg: we used to use xpc_UnmarkGrayObject
# [20:40] <bholley> bsmedberg: and then someone, khuey I think, went through and changed everything to an API that didn't implicitly null-check
# [20:40] <mccr8> yeah stuff got de-nullchecked, maybe around the era of beta
# [20:40] <mfinkle> BenWa, the profiler that's shipped in firefox desktop and is used via remote debugging works for me
# [20:40] <bholley> bsmedberg: so adding a null check is probably appropriate
# [20:41] <@bsmedberg> yeah, this is on beta
# [20:41] <mfinkle> BenWa, no add-on needed
# [20:41] <@bsmedberg> hrm
# [20:41] <mrbkap> How much RAM is recommended for a build these days? Does 8gb no longer cut it?
# [20:41] <BenWa> mfinkle: It wont give you as much information about the platform
# [20:41] <BenWa> mfinkle: it can't symbolicate leafs so for GFX profiling we need that information
# [20:41] <@smaug> mrbkap: I guess it depends on the OS
# [20:41] <bholley> mrbkap: are you talking about that warning?
# [20:41] <mrbkap> bholley: Yes.
# [20:41] <bholley> mrbkap: I'm getting it with 16 gigs
# [20:41] <bholley> mrbkap: so..
# [20:41] <mrbkap> bholley: That makes me feel better, then.
# [20:41] <BenWa> But it's a good thing to check first since it is easier to setup
# [20:42] <@smaug> oh, some mach thing
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# [20:42] <Ms2ger> mrbkap, I'm mostly fine with 4 on Linux+gold, fwiw
# [20:42] <mfinkle> BenWa, is it going to someday?
# [20:42] <bholley> mrbkap: presumably it's a bug, but I haven't had time to follow up
# [20:42] <mrbkap> gps: ping?
# [20:42] <@smaug> mrbkap: on linux using clang+gold helps a lot comparing to gcc+ld
# [20:42] <BenWa> mfinkle: Not plan, we said we didn't want to expose low level details to webdevs
# [20:42] <BenWa> So that's why we have 2 profiler front-ends
# [20:43] <gps> mrbkap: pong
# [20:43] <mrbkap> gps: I'm getting a "PERFORMANCE WARNING" due to excessive swapping... I have 8gb of RAM and bholley is getting it with 16gb ... is there a known bug or something tracking that?
# [20:43] <mrbkap> gps: or, something else I should be doing?
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# [20:44] <gps> mrbkap: bug 949704
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# [20:44] <@ehsan> cpearce: why do we want windows line endings for content/media/wmf? :(
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# [20:44] <Ms2ger> We don't, surely
# [20:45] <mrbkap> gps: Great, thanks.
# [20:45] <@ehsan> well
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# [20:45] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: either cpearce or doublec once told me that we do!
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# [20:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: that sounds scary
# [20:46] * Ms2ger mumbles something about gps adding \ No newline at end of file everywhere
# [20:46] <gps> Ms2ger: where?!
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# [20:46] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: what? windows line endings?
# [20:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: yeah
# [20:46] <Ms2ger> gps, http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9872d86dfa0c
# [20:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/81820a46dee2 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 950840 - Rename some logging macros in content/media/wmf; r=cpearce
# [20:47] <@ehsan> it's just annoying
# [20:47] <@ehsan> why is it scary?
# [20:47] <Ms2ger> It never fails to waste my time, isn't that scary enough? :)
# [20:47] <@ehsan> hehe
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# [20:47] <gps> Ms2ger: I actually think my Python linter complains about trailing newlines!
# [20:48] <Ms2ger> gps, surely not on one
# [20:48] <Ms2ger> Otherwise you get to fix it :)
# [20:48] <gps> "surely not on one"?
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# [20:49] <Ms2ger> If the file ends with a single \n
# [20:49] <@ehsan> what is the point of these "\ No newline" stuff anyways?
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# [20:49] <Ms2ger> ehsan, \n isn't a line separator but a line terminator
# [20:49] <@ehsan> ok and
# [20:49] <@ehsan> ?
# [20:50] <Mossop> ehsan: In some cases things break if a file doesn't end with a newline. Think of a case where a build system is blindly concatenating two files together
# [20:50] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: I mean, why couldn't patch figure this out without help from diff?
# [20:50] <@ehsan> oh
# [20:50] <Ms2ger> We probably do that now :)
# [20:50] <@ehsan> so these are warnings intended for humans?
# [20:51] <Ms2ger> Yes
# [20:51] <@ehsan> I see!
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# [20:51] <Ms2ger> "Hooman u did stoopid!"
# [20:51] <@ehsan> I always thought patch consumes these notations for something
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# [20:51] <Ms2ger> Such newline
# [20:51] <Ms2ger> (Sorry)
# [20:51] <@ehsan> cool
# [20:51] <GPHemsley> Is it just me or is drag-and-drop in textboxes broken in Aurora?
# [20:51] <Mossop> Well I presume patch might actually use that to know not to add a newline or something too
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# [20:54] <gps> Ms2ger: I agree it makes sense to have a line terminator so diffs don't have the final line as changed. not sure why my linter is complaining about that
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# [20:55] <gps> there isn't a file concatenation issue with moz.build because include() is handled by piping included files into eval(), not by concatenating then evaluating source
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# [20:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7da640f24355 - Malini Das - Bug 951153 - fix unclear error message if manifest has a non-existent file, r=jgriffin
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# [20:58] <cpearce> ehsan: my editor always added windows line endings, so they got put in the content/media/wmf code before I realised it, and I don't want to break blame by changing to unix eol. It is a hassle, but there's no way to configure visual studio to only output unix eol. it always uses windows eol when you copy + paste for example.
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# [20:58] <Ms2ger> Yay, crappy tools
# [20:59] <cpearce> I've been thinking that I need a hook for `hg qrefresh` to warn on mixing eols.
# [20:59] <@ehsan> cpearce: o_O really?!
# [20:59] <gps> cpearce: you can install a VS macro to convert line endings on file save. search for SO
# [20:59] <gps> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3994909/stop-visual-studio-from-mixing-line-endings-in-files
# [20:59] <gps> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3802406/configure-visual-studio-with-unix-end-of-lines
# [20:59] <gps> oh, perhaps modern VS even has an option for that now. yay!
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# [21:01] <cpearce> gps: I don't suppose you have a mercurial trick to convert the code to unix eol without breaking `hg blame`?
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# [21:01] <gps> cpearce: hg blame --ignore-all-space
# [21:02] <gps> git has a similar option
# [21:02] <gps> git blame -w
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# [21:04] <gps> Mercurial can even query for files with dos line endings: hg locate 'set:eol(dos)'
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# [21:04] <gps> the result is larger that you would think :(
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# [21:05] <@dbaron> gps, back in the day we had tinderboxes running proprietary compilers on various unix platforms (HP-UX and AIX, IIRC) that would break if C++ files had windows line endings
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# [21:06] <gps> dbaron: that's an interesting piece of trivia!
# [21:06] <@dbaron> gps, I think one of them broke for Windows line endings and the other broke for no-EOL-at-end-of-file (in headers only, not C++ files)
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# [21:09] <jcranmer> gps: there are legitimate uses for CRLF endings
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# [21:11] <vlad> the windows compiler breaks if you have #error or #warning with unix line endings
# [21:11] <vlad> even up tovs 2012
# [21:11] <vlad> it reports an internal error instead of the #error message
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# [21:25] <armenzg> jimm, you're welcome
# [21:25] <armenzg> jimm, I made such long explanation because I'm PTO on Thursday and I don't know if the change will be deployed tomorrow while I'm still around
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# [21:45] <jonasfj> lightsofapollo: what etherpad?
# [21:45] <lightsofapollo|pto> jonasfj: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/project-x-lwr
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# [21:46] <josh> What does "intr protocol" mean in ipdl? No mention of it in docs
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# [21:47] <jdm> josh: probably the new interrupt type
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# [21:47] <josh> jdm: Know of any docs on it?
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# [21:48] <jdm> not sure if it's documented anywhere else
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# [21:48] <josh> jdm: Maybe roc was just renamed to interrupt?
# [21:48] <jdm> you mean rpc? :)
# [21:48] <jdm> and no, it wasn't
# [21:48] <josh> rpc, not roc (damn autocorrect)
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# [21:48] <jdm> interrupt is a higher priority than even rpc
# [21:49] <jdm> except, hmm
# [21:49] <josh> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2466893f18a7
# [21:49] <jdm> bug 910020 disagrees :)
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# [21:49] <jdm> except there is also a new protocol called rpc :)
# [21:49] <jdm> this is confusing
# [21:49] <jdm> bug 910493
# [21:49] <josh> someone should definitely have updated MDN!
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# [22:11] <msucan> Waldo: i see jason cancelled the review request for your patch. do you know if we can get a fix ready this week for that issue? we'd like to land those patches this week, if possible
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# [22:16] <Waldo> jorendorff: ^ you meant "Detecting should just return true", right?
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# [22:17] <Waldo> msucan: it'll get done this week, no worries
# [22:17] <jorendorff> Waldo: uh.... no, doesn't true mean "lie to me about whether it's there", and false means "do the normal thing"?
# [22:17] <jorendorff> i meant don't lie to self-hosted code
# [22:17] <msucan> Waldo: thank you!
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# [22:17] <Waldo> jorendorff: Detecting(...) == true means no warning will happen
# [22:17] <Waldo> jorendorff: at least the way the current code's structured
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# [22:18] <Waldo> jorendorff: don't worry, you're not as bad as the people in Australia about it
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# [22:22] <jorendorff> Waldo: yeah i misread this patch. we apparently have more even bytecode inspection than i thought
# [22:22] <jorendorff> Waldo: I mean I just assumed it was one of the bytecode inspection things that I'd heard of before :-P
# [22:22] <Waldo> :-)
# [22:23] <Waldo> jorendorff: the other possibility might be to censor any strict warning at all that happens in self-hosted code, inside the error-reporting infrastructure; I am somewhat leerier about getting that right, tho, just because that's such a gnarl of code
# [22:24] <Waldo> but then again, strict warnings for self-hosted code are usually things we want to know about
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# [22:25] <jorendorff> Waldo: ok but what i meant to say should be a separate bug, though, right?
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# [22:26] <jorendorff> Waldo: it's wrong for selfhosted code to treat document.all as undefined, right? the fact that it happens to be implemented in JS is no excuse?
# [22:26] <Waldo> jorendorff: honestly I have no idea what exactly it is you mean to say here, we're both topsy-turvy :-)
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# [22:26] <Waldo> jorendorff: document.all as undefined is independent of bytecode inspection, thanks to JSCLASS_EMULATES_UNDEFINED
# [22:27] <Waldo> jorendorff: this is purely about not warning for foo[bar] === undefined
# [22:27] <jorendorff> agreed on the last point, where "this" is that patch and review
# [22:29] <Waldo> jorendorff: I don't think we want typeof to behave differently in self-hosted code, honestly; that'd have to touch a lot more code to make right (interpreter, baseline, JITs, etc.)
# [22:29] <Waldo> if what you mean is |typeof document.all| would return "object" in self-hosted code
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# [22:29] <jorendorff> Waldo: All I mean is that self-hosted code, like any other code, has a spec it must conform to
# [22:30] <jorendorff> Waldo: regardless of how we decide to make it happen
# [22:30] <Waldo> true
# [22:30] <jorendorff> Waldo: and emulatesUndefined is probably a bug in a place or two, right?
# [22:30] <@bz> Was there a known xpcshell failure sometime recently with crashes in test_jarchannel.js ?
# [22:31] <jorendorff> Waldo: we can fix it without doing violence to the JS engine, I think
# [22:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55a2561bb201 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 950401 - Add missing process logging on Mac/BSD (r=bsmedberg)
# [22:31] <jorendorff> IsUndefined primitive perhaps
# [22:31] <Waldo> jorendorff: no, we've been holding a pretty strong line as far as requiring === undefined for undefined-tests (or at least *I* have been)
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# [22:31] <Waldo> jorendorff: IsUndefined wouldn't be bad, consistent with IsObject
# [22:31] <jorendorff> oh, i didn't realize that worked. we're all good then
# [22:32] <jorendorff> Waldo: it's just the `typeof x == "undefined"` test that was a bad idea then?
# [22:32] <Waldo> jorendorff: strict equality never had to be falsy-aware, thank goodness
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# [22:32] <Waldo> emulates-undefined affects ==, !=, ToBoolean, and typeof
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# [22:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b53ea11174c8 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 945667 - Disable browser_aboutHome.js on Linux due to intermittent failures.
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# [22:40] <RealRaven1> Where can I buy some |T-shirts to support Mozilla - I always end up at https://marketplace.firefox.com/ and they only have addons
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# [22:40] <RealRaven1> is there a #arketplacesupport channmel?
# [22:41] <RealRaven1> #marketplace suport
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# [22:44] <jdm> RealRaven1: there's no store besides the one for mozilla taiwan right now
# [22:45] <jdm> RealRaven1: however there is https://sendto.mozilla.org/page/contribute/EOYFR2013-newdefault?source=join_link
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# [22:45] <jdm> hmm, that shoul dtlak about a shirt
# [22:45] <jdm> there https://sendto.mozilla.org/page/contribute/join-mozilla?source=base_url
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# [22:46] <RealRaven1> there really really should be a swag shop; I am still desperately waiting for some Thunderbird mugs
# [22:47] <jdm> RealRaven1: you and everyone else
# [22:47] <jdm> there is one coming in a few months, probably
# [22:47] <jdm> then again, we've been saying that for a couple years
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# [22:48] <KWierso|afk> RealRaven1, jdm: https://wiki.mozilla.org/GearStore/FAQ#Will_we_have_a_public_store_again_for_fans_to_buy_gear.3F
# [22:48] <RealRaven1> wtf? why does this take so long? just hire somebody, it will pay for itsel
# [22:48] <jdm> it's _slightly_ more complicated than that
# [22:48] <jdm> we had a swag for a bit earlier this year
# [22:48] <gaston> /quit/quit
# [22:48] <gaston> darn
# [22:48] <jdm> but there were security vulnerabilities
# [22:48] <jdm> (it was a third party)
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# [22:49] <RealRaven1> jdm, well I gto plenty of swag on the community meeting in Brussels, but what I really want is some mugs and some Thunderbird centric stuff
# [22:49] <RealRaven1> and to support the foundation with some of the money I get for my addons
# [22:49] <jdm> I know
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# [22:49] <jdm> it's coming
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# [23:05] <gps> NeilAway: it's a hard problem
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# [23:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ed374e9a290 - Seth Fowler - Bug 862909 (Part 3) - Assert that we own the decoding mutex in CurrentStatusTracker. r=tn
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# [23:27] <@bz> glob: ping
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# [23:29] <Waldo> bz: I think dbaron (?) mentioned tab-plus being broken for him yesterday
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# [23:30] <@bz> yes, exactly
# [23:30] <Waldo> Splinter being relatively mouse-oriented, unfortunately (I'd kill for keyboard shortcuts for switching files and such), I tend to select +/-/etc. with that
# [23:30] <@bz> in my case it's tab downarrow
# [23:31] <@bz> I have to remember to tab 3 times now or something
# [23:31] <@bz> which is a bit annoying
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# [23:36] <Waldo> jorendorff: new patch posted, hopefully more to your liking, if I understand our thinking
# [23:36] <jorendorff> Waldo: hah! i was going to stamp the original one, as soon as i got to it, so ... sounds great!
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# [23:54] <mt> I have a question about SpecialPowers, am I in the right place?
# [23:54] <@bz> As good a place as any
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# [23:56] <mt> I have used SpecialPowers to load a module (SpecialPowers.Cu.import) and everything works fine. Except. That module is talking to a loaded iframe using a message channel. The object that the iframe sends over the channel is accessible to the module, but when it is passed out to the content page, its contents are inaccessible (Permission denied to access property 'type').
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# [23:56] <@bz> mt: You man need a Specialpowers.unwrap()
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# [23:56] <@bz> mt: Or a SpecialPowers.wrap()....
# [23:57] <mt> That sounds dangerously close to what I want, maybe.
# [23:57] <@bz> mt: depending on what exactly is going on
# [23:57] <@bz> e.g. if the module is geting objects created in its compartment
# [23:57] <@bz> and then passing them out to untrusted content
# [23:57] <@bz> then that content probably needs to SpecialPowers.wrap() the objects to talk to them
# [23:57] <@bz> on the other hand, if the module is passing out specialpowers wrappers for content objects...
# [23:57] <@bz> then you want to unwrap() them.
# [23:57] <mt> wrap(), roger
# [23:58] <@bz> I suspect you want wrap()
# [23:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5bcd468384a8 - Till Schneidereit - Bug 814892 - Actually compare the right values when making sure a proxy [[Get]] trap returns the correct value. r=efaust
# [23:58] <mt> bz: thanks, now on to the next error :)
# [23:58] <@bz> mt: Good luck!
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# [23:59] <mt> Yeah, I'll need it: infinite recursion sounds nasty.
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