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21. # [00:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc128b242d8a - Mike Hommey - Bug 948301 - Fix static ICU build in js standalone builds. r=ted
22. # [00:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3c938eb10d4 - Mike Hommey - Bug 950261 - Fix ARM_ARCH computation with newer NDK. r=ted
23. # [00:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b545ee26212b - Mike Hommey - Bug 950531 - Don't build mfbt when building --with-libxul-sdk. r=gps
24. # [00:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e16232e5a6b6 - Mike Hommey - Bug 951010 - Move ConfigStatus.py under mozbuild. r=gps
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40. # [00:24] <@roc> Waldo: review my patch!
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45. # [00:26] <Waldo> roc: you're in line behind people :-\
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47. # [00:27] <@roc> come on, it's trivial :-)
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60. # [00:31] <Waldo> uh
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62. # [00:31] <Waldo> did we just break Ctrl+K?
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64. # [00:31] <Waldo> and if intentionally, why?
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71. # [00:36] <nthomas|away> just ? There was a bug a few days ago where it would open a new tab instead of focus the search box, but that got resolved. Today's nightly seems fine
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75. # [00:37] <AutomatedTester> heycam: hey, would you mind reviewing some IDL parts to a spec?
76. # [00:38] <heycam> AutomatedTester, happy to
77. # [00:38] <AutomatedTester> heycam: I think may have made things up and just need an expert to review ;)
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80. # [00:38] <heycam> AutomatedTester, don't worry, making IDL up is how it's usually done :)
81. # [00:38] <AutomatedTester> awesome
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85. # [00:40] <AutomatedTester> heycam: the main one, and should be quick is dictionary allowed as a type in https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webdriver/raw-file/tip/webdriver-spec.html#command-1. This is just a normal key/value dictionary that gets passed in
86. # [00:40] <@bz_away> asking for review puts you as step above most spec authors
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88. # [00:40] <KWierso|sheriffduty> Waldo: that should be fixed
89. # [00:40] <heycam> bz_away, very true
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91. # [00:41] <heycam> AutomatedTester, so the answer there is no, you can't have a dictionary type for an attribute, and also there is no such thing (yet) as a "generic" dictionary
92. # [00:41] <AutomatedTester> bz_away: I may have not asked for review if I didnt know that heycam had edited the webidl stuff (and I think you did too iirc)
93. # [00:41] <heycam> i.e. a bag of arbitrary string-key/value pairs
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98. # [00:42] <Waldo> KWierso|sheriffduty: ah, clearly I should update again
99. # [00:42] <AutomatedTester> heycam: so what would be the right thing to use there?
100. # [00:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/935cde7810fd - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 937635 - Install libdmd. r=glandium.
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104. # [00:43] <KWierso|sheriffduty> Waldo: the bug was introduced when they fixed Ctrl-L for the cases where the search bar was moved into the menupanel thingy
105. # [00:43] <KWierso|sheriffduty> but that then inadvertently broke it for the cases where it was on the toolbar
106. # [00:43] <KWierso|sheriffduty> but it should all work now
107. # [00:43] <Waldo> KWierso|sheriffduty: menupanel thingy?
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110. # [00:43] <KWierso|sheriffduty> the australis hamburger menu thing
111. # [00:43] <Waldo> there used to be a day when I followed anything frontend
112. # [00:44] <Waldo> this day is not that day
113. # [00:44] <heycam> AutomatedTester, what do you do with the parameters object?
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117. # [00:44] <heycam> do you grab some particular values off it, depending on the value of name, and then pass them off somewhere?
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122. # [00:45] <AutomatedTester> essentially yes. E.g. { proxy : { proxy settings : their value} }
123. # [00:45] <AutomatedTester> heycam: ^
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128. # [00:47] <heycam> AutomatedTester, what's the API that takes a Command object?
129. # [00:48] <AutomatedTester> heycam: its the whole of that spec. We are out of process to the browser so we send over a command object from outside the browser to inside the browser to do stuff
130. # [00:49] <heycam> AutomatedTester, do you define a method somewhere that takes a Command object as an argument?
131. # [00:50] <AutomatedTester> heycam https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webdriver/raw-file/tip/webdriver-spec.html#navigation-commands
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133. # [00:50] <heycam> AutomatedTester, I guess I'm looking something like: interface Something { void sendCommand(Command cmd); };
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135. # [00:51] <NeilAway> dolske: hard to do when you insist on preprocessing it all :-P
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139. # [00:52] <heycam> AutomatedTester, the upshot is that you'll need to make the type of that attribute something more generic -- like object, or any -- and then to pick off the property names yourself or convert it to a specific dictionary type in the definition of your sendCommand method, or whatever method it is that takes a Command object
140. # [00:53] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: if you see odd WinXP failures, check the slavename before doing anything about them, and if it's t-xp32-ix-027... it's bug t-xp32-ix-027
141. # [00:53] <AutomatedTester> heycam: looks like I need to add that interface
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144. # [00:53] <AutomatedTester> heycam: I am happy with object and then just pick what I need
145. # [00:53] <heycam> AutomatedTester, the idea is that JS can call a method to invoke a command, yeah?
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147. # [00:54] <AutomatedTester> heycam: only if its in the chrome, this is not content callable
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149. # [00:54] <heycam> AutomatedTester, ok, if you go for that approach, make sure you define the order that the properties are picked off the object
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153. # [00:55] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: roger
154. # [00:55] <joduinn-mtg> Standard8: ping about TB 27.0b1
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157. # [00:56] <AutomatedTester> heycam: just as a FYI, the implementation of this is Marionette for us
158. # [00:56] <Standard8> joduinn-mtg: pong
159. # [00:56] <joduinn-mtg> hey mark - did you see rail's email on tb-drivers?
160. # [00:56] <heycam> AutomatedTester, just wondering if it makes more sense to have an actual getWindowSize method rather than { name, parameters } objects that are sent
161. # [00:56] <Standard8> joduinn-mtg: yep, simple to handle, ust sorting out something else first
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163. # [00:56] <heycam> AutomatedTester, but I did see up the top you're trying to match some existing API
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165. # [00:57] <joduinn-mtg> Standard8: ok, so long as you saw it. I did timezone math and was worried you might have gone to sleep or something silly like that!
166. # [00:57] * joduinn-mtg thanks Standard8 and goes back to my mtg
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168. # [00:58] <AutomatedTester> heycam we are trying to match an existing API but where it makes sense to do things better then CFC on the API change
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174. # [00:58] <AutomatedTester> heycam: any and all suggestions are welcome
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176. # [01:00] <heycam> AutomatedTester, if I were writing the interface without regard to matching the existing API, I might suggest having a separate method per "command", like a getWindowSize method, and to use Promises to handle the async-ness of it (I'm assuming responses are sent asynchronously)
177. # [01:00] <heycam> not that Promises are handled in the WebIDL spec yet, but soon :(
178. # [01:00] <AutomatedTester> heycam: we are trying to make the API synchronous where possible
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180. # [01:01] <heycam> AutomatedTester, oh I see. in that case, forget the Promises, and just have getWindowSize return the value directly :)
181. # [01:01] <AutomatedTester> since our biggest audience is test writers and test scripts tend to be thought of in a synchronous fashion
182. # [01:01] <heycam> I'm not really sure what the advantage to abstracting the method calls into { name, parameters } is
183. # [01:01] <Waldo> gps: I sense that you are a more politic person than me, when it comes to expressing opinions :-)
184. # [01:02] <heycam> I'd have an object representing a session, and then have the methods on that
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187. # [01:03] <AutomatedTester> there was a reason but I can't remember what
188. # [01:03] <heycam> ok :)
189. # [01:03] <AutomatedTester> the initial project is ~7 years old and we are only specing it now
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191. # [01:03] <gps> Waldo: i'm just trying to come across as somewhat sensible so people don't dismiss the message because of the framing :)
192. # [01:03] <gps> I also have little clue what I'm talking about w.r.t. JS
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194. # [01:04] <heycam> anyway, to solve the problem with dictionaries not being allowed on attributes -- and that's because otherwise a new object would get created each time you look at the attribute -- use object, then describe which properties you grab off that object and when that happens
195. # [01:04] <Waldo> gps: incredible as it may sound, when it comes to comment stuff and documentation systems and such, you and the SpiderMonkey team both :-)
196. # [01:04] <AutomatedTester> heycam: brilliant, thanks for your help! I appreciate it
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198. # [01:05] <AutomatedTester> I will send you an email when the rest is ready for you to tell me I am doing it wrong :)
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200. # [01:05] <heycam> AutomatedTester, ok, I reserve the right to suggest a complete redesign ;)
201. # [01:05] <AutomatedTester> I fully expect it
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209. # [01:08] <@gavin> jgriffin: how do slave loan requests for ec2 slaves work?
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212. # [01:08] <jgriffin> releng will just give you access to an EC2 instance
213. # [01:09] <@gavin> ok, cool
214. # [01:09] <jgriffin> of the same config that we use in buildbot
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223. # [01:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cbe04dbc2bd6 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 948929 - MToId is not PJS safe. (r=nmatsakis)
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237. # [01:19] <shu> mrbkap: nice
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240. # [01:19] <mrbkap> Thanks... let's see if it sticks this time!
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249. # [01:22] <WeirdAl> "once more with feeling" indeed
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276. # [01:30] <mbrubeck> We should create a .yet TLD for all our AWFY-style sites.
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284. # [01:34] <@njn> mbrubeck: how much does that cost? I'm sure it'll be totally worth it
285. # [01:35] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: what would be your guess as to the cause of all those browserElement_oop oranges on OSX on inbound?
286. # [01:35] <KWierso|sheriffduty> 950401?
287. # [01:35] <@njn> mbrubeck: think of the keystroke savings
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289. # [01:36] <mbrubeck> njn: $185,000 just to apply for one, if the web page I found is correct. A bargain!
290. # [01:36] <mbrubeck> njn: Or we could just build it into Firefox. ;)
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292. # [01:37] <@njn> mbrubeck: yet://arewefast
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294. # [01:37] <mbrubeck> no, we need an are: protocol
295. # [01:37] <@njn> mbrubeck: yoda would approve
296. # [01:37] <mbrubeck> are:wefast.yet
297. # [01:37] <@njn> mmm
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299. # [01:38] <@njn> so you couldn't even view those pages in any browser but Firefox. Awesome
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305. # [01:39] <KWierso|sheriffduty> billm: ping?
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312. # [01:44] <philor> yeah, he'd be my guess :)
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314. # [01:45] <till> njn, mbrubeck: .yet tld: surprisingly hard to google
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322. # [01:47] <glandium> please someone push to try or m-i :)
323. # [01:48] <therube> Bug 944407 Is this meant to be or will it be fixed on Aurora?
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327. # [01:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3dc4e624c8e - Terrence Cole - Bug 951407 - Fix two hazards introduced by bug 951282; r=sfink
328. # [01:49] <till> therube: I'm not sure I understand what you're asking
329. # [01:49] <glandium> terrence: thanks
330. # [01:50] <terrence> glandium: ...you're... welcome?
331. # [01:50] <till> therube: do you want to know if the fix will be packported to aurora, or if changes to the fix that was applied in that bug will happen before the next branch to aurora?
332. # [01:50] <therube> well it's fixed on Nightly, FF29, but not on Aurora, FF28, wondering if FF28 is also going to be fixed or will there by one entire cycle where its broken?
333. # [01:50] <till> ah
334. # [01:50] <therube> Yes.
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336. # [01:50] <till> therube: the best thing to do is to ask for an uplift in the bug
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338. # [01:51] <therube> how do you go about that?
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340. # [01:52] <till> therube: I'd comment and ask for an uplift. With a reference to comment 4, where it is indicated that it would probably be approved
341. # [01:52] <therube> Ok, thanks.
342. # [01:52] <till> therube: for good measure, set the "need more information" flag to the patch author
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345. # [01:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85c56bbcf37c - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 55a2561bb201 (bug 950401) for introducing several OSX mochitest timeouts
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352. # [01:57] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: though now that I think about it, if that bug was all about checking for zombie processes on OSX, and suddenly we get a lot of timed out processes on OSX, maybe it should've stayed landed so those could be fixed? :S
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355. # [01:59] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: and for my next wild guess, I'm going to guess that the findbar b-c failures on Linux are not from seth's image thing, but instead are from RyanVM disabling the about:home test that the findbar was depending on leakage from
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357. # [01:59] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: that'd align with ryanvm's message he just sent out to the two of us :)
358. # [02:01] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: he says he's just going to disable browser_google_behavior.js
359. # [02:01] <KWierso|sheriffduty> and be done with it
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374. # [02:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/41a821377408 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 945667 - Disable browser_google_behavior.js on Linux due to relying on browser_aboutHome.js.
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379. # [02:09] <billm> KWierso|sheriffduty: ping
380. # [02:09] <KWierso|sheriffduty> billm: pong
381. # [02:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/767e29d53f7a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 945667 - Disable browser_google_behavior.js on Linux due to relying on browser_aboutHome.js. a=test-only
382. # [02:09] <billm> KWierso|sheriffduty: how frequent are the timeouts that you're seeing from bug 950401?
383. # [02:10] <billm> KWierso|sheriffduty: it looks like maybe 1 in 20 or so?
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386. # [02:10] <KWierso|sheriffduty> I'd say closer to 1 in 10
387. # [02:12] <billm> KWierso|sheriffduty: and it was failing before my patch too, right?
388. # [02:12] <KWierso|sheriffduty> billm: not that I can see
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391. # [02:13] <billm> KWierso|sheriffduty: in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=6de31ee204e6 you starred it once, and that was the checkin before me
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393. # [02:14] <KWierso|sheriffduty> billm: not that I can see, and those m2 timeout are completely different :\
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395. # [02:14] <KWierso|sheriffduty> the failures that started with your push have filenames that start with 'test_browserElement_oop_'
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397. # [02:16] <KWierso|sheriffduty> though a few pushes after you landed, there was also a mochitest-4 timeout that looks related to your stuff: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32118974&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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399. # [02:16] <billm> KWierso|sheriffduty: I think I just changed how the failure is reported, but I guess I don't have proof of that
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401. # [02:18] <billm> KWierso|sheriffduty: all right. never mind. I'll figure this out somehow.
402. # [02:18] <KWierso|sheriffduty> billm: okay
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412. # [02:23] <dholbert> Why are all the build/test queue lengths "N/A" at http://trychooser.pub.build.mozilla.org/ ?
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415. # [02:23] <dholbert> Normally that only happens for e.g. test queues for platforms where we don't run tests
416. # [02:23] <dholbert> but right now it's N/A everywhere
417. # [02:24] <KWierso|sheriffduty> dholbert: webconsole shows a | SyntaxERror: syntax error in tryload.js:91 |
418. # [02:25] <KWierso|sheriffduty> dholbert: I'm guessing something in that script is failing and just bailing completely?
419. # [02:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82f8fd52a774 - Makoto Kato - Bug 947981 - broken --with-system-icu build. r=glandium
420. # [02:26] <dholbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, ah, ok
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437. # [02:33] <KWierso|sheriffduty> dholbert: I suppose #releng should probably be informed?
438. # [02:34] * corey|away is now known as corey
439. # [02:34] <dholbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, yeah
440. # [02:34] <dholbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, I'll file a bug
441. # [02:34] <KWierso|sheriffduty> dholbert: thanks
442. # [02:35] <nthomas> syntax error at tryload.js:91
443. # [02:35] <KWierso|sheriffduty> nthomas: yep
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448. # [02:37] * nthomas wonders why we were taking max( max(10.6, 10.7), 10.8)
449. # [02:37] <dholbert> Filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=951469
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458. # [02:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b643c662a657 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 950559 part.2 nsIMM32Handler should set IME releated windows to left-bottom of focused plugin r=emk
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460. # [02:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc369cd5faa8 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 950559 part.1 nsContentEventHandler should set plugin's rect to query editor rect event if plugin has focus r=smaug
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470. # [02:56] <blassey> anyone know how I get bugzilla to show me a hidden TBPL comment?
471. # [02:56] <blassey> specifically I'm trying to see the log in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=832052#c129
472. # [02:56] <blassey> gbrown: ^?
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474. # [02:56] <KWierso|sheriffduty> blassey: there's a little + on the right side of that comment line
475. # [02:57] <blassey> ugh...
476. # [02:57] <blassey> need to get my spectacles
477. # [02:57] <KWierso|sheriffduty> alternatively, there's a "Expand tinderboxpushlog comments" link up to the right of comment 0
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479. # [02:57] <KWierso|sheriffduty> to expand all of them
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481. # [02:58] <blassey> thanks
482. # [02:58] <KWierso|sheriffduty> no problem :)
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493. # [03:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2babdc3bdb94 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 950490 - Don't apply the transform twice when doing blurring in user-space. r=roc
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495. # [03:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c867eb65bd5e - Matt Woodrow - Bug 946929 - Add some debug logging to IsDOMPaintEventPending. r=mats
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501. # [03:04] <@njn> gps: in |is_firefox(cls)|, what is |cls|?
502. # [03:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/adb27b99c7d8 - Bobby Holley - Bug 946815 - Handle nsIExpandedPrincipal instances in the permission manager API. r=baku
503. # [03:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d7c5dee37341 - Bobby Holley - Bug 946815 - Hoist system-principal checks into CommonTestPermission. r=baku
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521. # [03:16] <glob> bz_away, pong
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536. # [03:20] <@bz> glob: are you still there?
537. # [03:20] <glob> bz, yes - i just woke up. coffee not kicked in yet, so i guess i'm not all here yet :)
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539. # [03:21] <@bz> glob: so a question
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541. # [03:21] <glob> yessir
542. # [03:22] <@bz> glob: The attachment comment form now has a checkbox and dropdown under it for requesting needinfo
543. # [03:22] <@bz> glob: is there a way I could move them somewhere else on that page?
544. # [03:22] <glob> bz, tab order?
545. # [03:22] <@bz> glob: in particular so they're not between the textarea where I'm typing my review comment and the place where I need to mark r+?
546. # [03:22] <@bz> glob: exactly
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550. # [03:23] <glob> bz, yes, that should be possible and sounds completely reasonable. sorry i didn't catch that in review
551. # [03:24] <@bz> glob: it's pretty non-obvious
552. # [03:24] <glob> bz, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=bugzilla.mozilla.org&component=Extensions%3A%20Needinfo :)
553. # [03:24] <glob> (caused by bug 885148)
554. # [03:24] <@bz> glob: it took me a few hours of down arrow not working to figure out what's going on. ;)
555. # [03:25] <@bz> glob: will file
556. # [03:25] <glob> bz, hehe, did you spend that time debugging firefox and then eventually cursing bugzilla? :D
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558. # [03:25] <@bz> no, I spent it hitting tab, then hitting down, then realizing the focus was on the wrong thing and hitting tab twice more
559. # [03:26] <@bz> then eventually realizing _why_ the focus was ending up in the wrong place
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566. # [03:29] <@njn> um, what? " error: 'nullptr' was not declared in this scope"
567. # [03:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/40e241eed25e - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 951021 Android widget should set modifier state at dispatching events derived from WidgetInputEvent r=nchen
568. # [03:29] <Waldo> njn: you need #include "mozilla/NullPtr.h"
569. # [03:29] <Waldo> njn: nullptr is emulated, you have to include a header that adds it
570. # [03:29] <@njn> Waldo: thanks!
571. # [03:29] <Waldo> scumbag bootleggers :-)
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573. # [03:30] <@njn> Waldo: this only failed on B2G ICS Emulator and B2G Device Image builds
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575. # [03:30] <Waldo> njn: yeah, I think 4.4 or so is the only compiler without it natively
576. # [03:30] <Waldo> 4.4 and 4.5, seems
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612. # [03:58] <@dbaron> Assertion failure: !analysisContext->isExceptionPending(), at /home/dbaron/builds/ssd/mozilla-central/mozilla/js/src/jit/IonBuilder.cpp:3871
613. # [03:58] <@dbaron> again!
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619. # [04:00] <glob> bz, ?
620. # [04:00] <@bz> glob: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=951490#c0
621. # [04:00] <@bz> glob: it thought I meant "attachment 2"
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623. # [04:00] <@bz> glob: when I definitely did not. ;)
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625. # [04:00] <glob> i'm sure i've seen a bug for that somewhere
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627. # [04:01] <@bz> I do hope a period would have helped.
628. # [04:02] <glob> ah, bug 105865
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640. # [04:13] <Waldo> bz: am I reading http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsAttrAndChildArray.cpp#131 correctly to say that we got rid of our childNodes[i] cache mechanism? (by dint of no cache being poked for updating)
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642. # [04:14] <Waldo> bz: er, never mind, I see cache-fu a bit up
643. # [04:14] <Waldo> this stuff could *so* use some design overview comments
644. # [04:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/228a1f83ccee - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 945667 - Disable browser_findbar.js on Linux due to relying on browser_aboutHome.js.
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653. # [04:20] <@bz> Waldo: childNodes[i] doesn't need a cache
654. # [04:20] <@bz> Waldo: We used to have a cache for nextSibling
655. # [04:20] <Waldo> bz: yeah, I got further into this and realized that
656. # [04:20] <@bz> Waldo: and we still have one for indexof
657. # [04:20] <Waldo> yup, that was the one use
658. # [04:20] <@bz> waldo: nsAttrAndChildArray is way too overcomplicated. :(
659. # [04:20] <@bz> waldo: also, we should finish getting rid of it...
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661. # [04:20] <@bz> waldo: and then we'll need a cache for childNodes[i]
662. # [04:21] <Waldo> bz: IndexOf isn't exposed except via nsINode, right? I can't think of anything webby that would expose it, off the top of my head
663. # [04:21] <@bz> There's nothing webby that exposes it directly
664. # [04:21] <@bz> But some things that use it indirectly
665. # [04:21] <@bz> e.g. compareTreePosition
666. # [04:21] <@bz> Or ranges responding to mutations
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668. # [04:22] <Waldo> bz: you don't happen to know Trident or Presto implementation strategies here, do you? ;-)
669. # [04:24] <@bz> waldo: sadly, no
670. # [04:24] <@bz> waldo: I used to know webkit's
671. # [04:24] <@bz> waldo: but that was like 5 years ago
672. # [04:24] <@bz> waldo: so they might have changed it, and in any case I've mostly forgotten
673. # [04:24] <Waldo> bz: yeah, webkit's I know enough of to expound on it, with some caveats
674. # [04:25] <@bz> Ours is usually ok except when it's not
675. # [04:25] <@bz> due to too much memmove
676. # [04:25] <Waldo> and memory
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678. # [04:25] <@bz> well
679. # [04:25] <@bz> the memory was fine until we also added the doubly linked list. ;)
680. # [04:26] <@bz> Now we have really fast read operations
681. # [04:26] <@bz> but can have pathologically slow inserts/removes
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697. # [04:32] <@bz> hrm
698. # [04:32] <@bz> Anyone here familiar with the jar module?
699. # [04:33] * @bz wonders why this problem is opt-only...
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701. # [04:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d96bb9ca5b1 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 937818, part 4 - Exceeded refcount nodes should already be black. r=smaug
702. # [04:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/36a1e65b9497 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 937818, part 1 - Add objects to the purple buffer on AddRef. r=smaug
703. # [04:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/654769041ad1 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 937818, part 0 - Root newly created objects in Bind across ADDREF. r=bz
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705. # [04:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4a69193ee33 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 937818, part 3 - Add ScanIncrementalRoots(). r=smaug
706. # [04:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/72c963039107 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 937818, part 2 - Add js::ZoneGlobalsAreAllGray. r=jonco
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740. # [04:56] * philor whines
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744. # [04:56] <philor> shouldn't somebody who cares about win64 care about win64?
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751. # [05:00] <@khuey> does anybody care about win64?
752. # [05:00] <@roc> yes
753. # [05:00] <@khuey> philor: roc volunteered for whatever you're complaining about ;-)
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755. # [05:00] <@roc> no, I just said someone cared
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758. # [05:01] <philor> roc: thanks! please file a bug about the jit-test bustage, and either cc sunfish or just decide he's so likely you should assign it to him
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761. # [05:01] <philor> and the 3600 second debug timeout, and the orange when all opt tests pa... oh. crap.
762. # [05:02] <philor> we need another word for "cares"
763. # [05:02] <philor> not "pretends to care" or "thinks someone else should do work related to" but actually cares
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766. # [05:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/354b77553a8b - Chris Pearce - Bug 938107 - Wait for media state machine thread to shutdown during XPCOM shutdown before returning. r=roc
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773. # [05:08] <@bz> hey, khuey exists
774. # [05:08] <@bz> khuey: How well do you know our module dtor setup? ;)
775. # [05:09] <@bz> philor: fwiw, your "64 in the summary, touched js code" seems like a good enough heuristic for win64 jit-test failures to me!
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777. # [05:10] <@khuey> bz: khuey has existed more or less continuously for over two decades
778. # [05:10] <@khuey> bz: not great, but better than most
779. # [05:10] <@bz> khuey: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=951511
780. # [05:11] <@bz> khuey: well, exists in a location where I can pester him. ;)
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785. # [05:11] <Waldo> bz: http://www.quora.com/Data-Structures/Is-the-DOM-NodeList-a-linked-list-or-an-array fwiw; WebKit right now has a cache for childNodes[i] with the last index/node found, but it's semi-new enough in their source I'm not sure if it's also in Blink or not
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788. # [05:12] <Waldo> and that's way more investigation than I really should have done, but I think I was at the end of the day anyway :-)
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790. # [05:12] <@bz> waldo: huh
791. # [05:12] <@bz> waldo: I would have thought they had a cache all along!
792. # [05:13] <@bz> waldo: otherwise childNodes enumeration would be super-slow
793. # [05:13] * @bz sees to recall seeing a cache there...
794. # [05:13] <Waldo> bz: no, I definitely remember olliej saying they were considering adding one a bit ago
795. # [05:13] <@khuey> bz: twiddling with when we do garbage collection seems like a bad idea
796. # [05:13] <Waldo> unless I'm just on crack
797. # [05:13] <@khuey> bz: I think your instinct is correct
798. # [05:13] <@khuey> bz: with the caveat that I don't actually know this code
799. # [05:14] <@bz> khuey: OK
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801. # [05:14] <@bz> khuey: Neither does anyone else. ;)
802. # [05:15] <@bz> khuey: I mean, the owner/peer here are taras/mwu
803. # [05:15] <@bz> khuey: which I question
804. # [05:15] <@bz> khuey: for this sort of issue.
805. # [05:15] <@khuey> bz: yeah, I'm happy to pinch review if needed
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807. # [05:15] <@khuey> bz: just putting the disclaimers on my advice given without reading code
808. # [05:15] <@bz> Makes sense. ;)
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810. # [05:17] <taras> yeah i wouldn't trust me for this
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813. # [05:17] <@bz> waldo: Looks like the recent change was 6 weeks ago, https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123823
814. # [05:18] <@bz> waldo: but before that....
815. # [05:18] * @bz looks
816. # [05:18] <Waldo> bz: it's the "factoring" bit of that that I couldn't decipher quickly enough, it existed before then for "some" period of time
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821. # [05:21] <@bz> waldo: last cahnge before that was https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123708
822. # [05:21] <@bz> and before that....
823. # [05:22] <@bz> Rename DynamicNodeList to LiveNodeList
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825. # [05:22] <Waldo> yeah, trac is teh awful
826. # [05:22] <@bz> etc
827. # [05:22] <@bz> anyway, they've had it for a while
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832. # [05:26] <Waldo> there was a discussion of caching (harder, at the very least) in webkit in March this year in #webkit
833. # [05:27] <Waldo> and I poked you with questions about Gecko at that time, too :-)
834. # [05:27] <Waldo> because this is documented not significantly better now than it was then, blargh
835. # [05:29] <@bz> Yeah, sorry. :(
836. # [05:29] <@bz> We really need to finish removing the array bits
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866. # [06:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/21837cd4fcb1 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 951467. Give scroll layer items the bounds of the scroll port, not the bounds of the display port. r=roc
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871. # [06:10] <KWierso|afk> blassey: ping?
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873. # [06:11] <epoawe> hi, may i report a bug on the latest firefox?
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875. # [06:12] <KWierso|afk> epoawe: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org would be a better place for that
876. # [06:12] <KWierso|afk> otherwise it'll probably get lost here
877. # [06:13] <epoawe> ok, thank u
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885. # [06:20] <blassey> KWierso|afk: pong
886. # [06:21] <KWierso|afk> blassey: I just backed out bug 832952 for breaking debug android builds :(
887. # [06:21] <blassey> :-/
888. # [06:21] <KWierso|afk> warnings as errors, looks like
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891. # [06:22] <KWierso|afk> blassey: commented in the bug
892. # [06:22] <blassey> thanks
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897. # [06:24] <blassey> KWierso|afk: fixed locally
898. # [06:24] <blassey> will repush
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924. # [06:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f55504b0184f - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 950427. Don't descend into subdocuments at all in elementFromPoint. r=mats
925. # [06:43] <KWierso|afk> rnewman: ping
926. # [06:43] <rnewman> KWierso|afk: auto-reply: please consider replying with additional info regarding your ping. If I'm here, it's what I'll ask for next; if I'm not, I'll at least read it later.
927. # [06:44] <rnewman> KWierso|afk: yo
928. # [06:44] <KWierso|afk> rnewman: did you just break all mochitests?
929. # [06:44] <KWierso|afk> or at least all osx ones?
930. # [06:44] <rnewman> shouldn't have
931. # [06:44] <KWierso|afk> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Fx-Team&rev=fb2697d854d0
932. # [06:44] <rnewman> yeah, I see it
933. # [06:45] <rnewman> haha
934. # [06:45] <rnewman> 21:23:46 INFO - *** ERROR addons.xpi: Failed to process extension changes at startup: SyntaxError: illegal character (resource://gre/modules/UITelemetry.jsm:10)
935. # [06:45] <rnewman> so apparently that file isn't preprocessed
936. # [06:45] <rnewman> Worked On My Machine®, as they say
937. # [06:46] <rnewman> I'll back that out
938. # [06:48] <rnewman> done
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942. # [06:51] <KWierso|afk> blassey: thanks
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947. # [06:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5123ffbafac3 - Eric Faust - Bug 951517 - Fix broken DOM TI check. (r=bz)Bug 951517 - Only Fix broken DOM
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955. # [06:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d0a56b1051f - Eric Faust - Bug 951517 - Fix broken DOM TI check. (r=bz)
956. # [06:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c86909fe857b - Eric Faust - Backed out changeset 5123ffbafac3 for bogus commit message.
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1022. # [08:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2700df154644 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 947115 All tests shouldn't use nsIDOMWindowUtils.sendNativeKeyEvent() directly. Use synthesizeNativeKey() instead. r=smaug
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1035. # [08:13] <KWierso|afk> philor: does roc need to go, too?
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1037. # [08:15] <philor> seems likely
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1039. # [08:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa1dd7e7aa22 - Randall Barker - Bug 895358 - Part 1, Adding POSIX cross process mutex to support progressive tile rendering in B2G; r=khuey
1040. # [08:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/024623d015e9 - Randall Barker - Bug 895358 - Part 2, Enable progressive tile rendering in B2G; r=BenWa,kats,Cwiiis
1041. # [08:15] <philor> stahp!
1042. # [08:20] <philor> rnewman: bad news
1043. # [08:21] <philor> sweet, might have total bustage on inbound too
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1050. # [08:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b90928c4551 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out f55504b0184f (bug 950427) for mochitest-4 and mochitest-oth bustage (at least)
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1057. # [08:33] <glandium> philor: sheriffs are not using the clobberer these days, right?
1058. # [08:33] <philor> glandium: not that I know of
1059. # [08:33] <philor> it'll tell you more than I know, though
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1061. # [08:35] <glandium> well, looks like there was a clobber yesterday
1062. # [08:36] <philor> yeah, I vaguely remember talk about people thinking something was needs-clobber, and then discovering it was needs-to-be-backed-out, could be that
1063. # [08:36] <philor> hey, convenient that I already have inbound closed
1064. # [08:36] <gcp> looks like my push needs to go out as well
1065. # [08:37] <philor> it's only Windows, we could probably drop that
1066. # [08:38] <gcp> who the hell needs customers anyway, they just complain
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1068. # [08:39] <philor> oh, they complain too? I thought it was just sheriffs
1069. # [08:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78f9ba2c0f02 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 024623d015e9:fa1dd7e7aa22 (bug 895358) for Windows build bustage
1070. # [08:40] <philor> and what's with that Android bustage? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32141697&tree=Mozilla-Inbound both looks unrelated to your push, and like something inexplicable I saw yesterday or the day before
1071. # [08:40] <philor> maybe I should clobber
1072. # [08:41] <gcp> yeah, looks like it
1073. # [08:41] <gcp> proguard probably introduced clobber requirements we don't fully understand yet
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1103. # [09:14] <hsivonen> What would be an appropriate Firefox-specific place for preference migration code upon startup?
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1125. # [09:34] <@dolske> hsivonen: migrateUI, probably. http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/nsBrowserGlue.js#1291
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1130. # [09:37] <hsivonen> dolske: thanks
1131. # [09:38] <hsivonen> hmm. I wonder if what I'm trying to do correlates with the UI_VERSION concept
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1133. # [09:40] <hsivonen> looks like UI_VERSION is tied to Australis, so probably not what I should use.
1134. # [09:41] <hsivonen> but I could put code near the call to the UI migration call
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1141. # [09:54] <hsivonen> hmm. does migrating Gecko prefs from UI .js break Electrolysis?
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1173. # [10:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/323b1482feec - Jan de Mooij - Bug 950725 - Fix GetAndClearException to get/clear the exception before calling js_HandleExecutionInterrupt. r=bhackett
1174. # [10:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71f5da42bd04 - Jan de Mooij - No bug - Make jit_test.py --ion use --ion-parallel-compile=off with --ion-eager, to match --tbpl. r=terrence on IRC
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1176. # [10:17] <Cork> could someone explain bug 641800 comment 1?
1177. # [10:17] <Cork> the bug is invalid; so how would one get rid of the message?
1178. # [10:17] <Cork> onclose doesn't help, try-catch doens't work
1179. # [10:17] <Cork> window.onerror doens't work
1180. # [10:18] <Cork> is the message meant to be impossible to get rid of, even if the page actually handles the expected disconnection?
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1182. # [10:19] * Cork looks at a console with 30 code error warnings all bogus
1183. # [10:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ttaubert: ping
1184. # [10:19] <ttaubert> Tomcat|sheriffduty: pong
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1187. # [10:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey ttaubert just wonder i see some failures like https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32140982&tree=Mozilla-Central
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1189. # [10:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> could this be realted to the change in bug 945667
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1191. # [10:21] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ohh
1192. # [10:21] <ttaubert> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I fear it might be?
1193. # [10:21] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> i see it was disabled on linux but maybe Asan was left out
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1196. # [10:21] <ttaubert> I think we ideally should randomize the order our tests are run in
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1198. # [10:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
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1206. # [10:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8939e7f497db - Tim Taubert - Bug 786347 - Follow-up to clear timeout when ping request has finished r=bz
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1209. # [10:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ttaubert: set now needinfo for ryan somehow this test disable failed
1210. # [10:28] <ttaubert> hm
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1212. # [10:29] <Ms2ger> Cork, it seems like https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/WebSocket.cpp#164 is always called
1213. # [10:29] <Ms2ger> Cork, maybe you should file a bug to reduce the severity
1214. # [10:29] <Cork> Ms2ger: i think that is what 641800 was about
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1216. # [10:31] <Ms2ger> It claims something about exceptions that don't exist
1217. # [10:31] <Ms2ger> In particular, the "Expected Results" are bogus
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1219. # [10:31] <Cork> Ms2ger: well the message in the console looks like an exception
1220. # [10:32] <Cork> it points to the websocket line and marks it as an error
1221. # [10:33] <Ms2ger> Anyway, I'd file a new bug that doesn't talk about exceptions but about console messages
1222. # [10:34] <Cork> ok
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1259. # [11:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ca8e48896c4 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 922681 part 2 - Add some innerHTML tests. r=bz
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1265. # [11:12] <nthomas> Tomcat|sheriffduty: have you been able to use self-serve since you started today ?
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1267. # [11:16] <nthomas> looks like it's OK from the logs
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1302. # [11:43] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nthomas: yeah should be ok
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1314. # [11:58] <@roc> ttaubert: "randomize the order our tests are run in"? Only if you've got some way to record and replay that order
1315. # [11:58] <@roc> oh, wait
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1318. # [12:01] <mjrosenb> uh-oh, thunderbird seems to be choking.
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1320. # [12:01] <mjrosenb> it is in a cycle, flashing the system notification icon
1321. # [12:01] <mjrosenb> and not actually doing anything other than making the system unusable.
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1333. # [12:08] <ttaubert> roc: I was just thinking that we could make some tests fail earlier and expose more weaknesses in them by doing that
1334. # [12:09] <Ms2ger> Well, if you have the time to figure out which test is broken...
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1376. # [12:38] <jgraham> Depending on how you do it, random ordering is something you get for free when you parralelise tests.
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1378. # [12:38] <jgraham> *parallelise
1379. # [12:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1a2e65f0f1c1 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge b2g-inbound to mozilla-central
1380. # [12:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e769b355870f - Ben Tian - Bug 949843 - Don't use char* str = NS_ConvertUTF16toUTF8(aBdAddress).get();, r=echou
1381. # [12:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7ae331727289 - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 4 gaia-central revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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1383. # [12:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a234b6934a99 - Wes Kocher - Merge m-c to b2g-inbound
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1387. # [12:40] <jgraham> Although the "best" way to do things is to break the tests into fixed-time chunks that can still have a determined order
1388. # [12:40] <jgraham> (within the chunk)
1389. # [12:40] <jgraham> But where the tests may move between chunks
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1391. # [12:42] <jgraham> Of course this means that you need the tests to not have interdependencies, but the current system of running all tests in serial or in super-large chunks is incredibly sucky
1392. # [12:42] <jgraham> It makes really hard to get good performance
1393. # [12:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fff2e3ac46f0 - Markus Stange - Bug 951302 - Fix BasicCompositor handling of mask layers. r=mattwoodrow
1394. # [12:44] <jgraham> Which ends up costing us a vast amount in compute time alone and even more in developer productivity
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1398. # [12:55] <Gijs> jgraham: can't really run most browser/chrome mochitests in parallel though as they require focus and such :(
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1400. # [12:55] <@roc> the problem is, if you add all this nondeterminism, it becomes harder to reproduce test failures and fix them
1401. # [12:56] <@roc> what we need are some amazing tools to capture a nondeterministic test run and replay it debuggably
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1409. # [13:03] <jgraham> Gijs: Possibly you can with Xvfb or equivalent. But at the very least you can run the tests in much smaller groups across more VMs (at least in automation)
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1419. # [13:09] <jgraham> roc: I agree that there is a cost. It is not clear that that cost is prohibitive (we have the same cost whenever we add more threads or processes to gecko, for example, but in that case no one is arguing that we should favour determinism)
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1422. # [13:09] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: btw fx-team merges now
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1424. # [13:10] <jgraham> And with testsuites that don't have much global state like web-platform-tests it seems to work very well to run in parallel even on the same machine
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1438. # [13:19] <@roc> actually, fear of nondeterminism does lead to self-restraint in adding threads and processes
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1441. # [13:22] <@roc> sooner or later we'll crack the nondeterministic replay problem and then we can add as much nondeterminism to our test runs as we can
1442. # [13:23] <ttaubert> is there a bug on that?
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1448. # [13:29] <@roc> it's being worked on :-)
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1450. # [13:31] <ttaubert> I wonder if we can provide something that would catch intermittent stuff while working on tests. maybe simulate a really slow machine, a full event queue, etc.
1451. # [13:32] <@roc> I've been looking into that a little bit
1452. # [13:33] <@roc> there's a few places we can introduce interesting nondeterminism
1453. # [13:33] <jgraham> roc: Fair enough. But pretend that I said "no one is arguing that we should be entirely single-thread/process"
1454. # [13:34] <jgraham> Better tools will of course be awesome, but we shouldn't block other work on improving test speed the promise of future tools
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1456. # [13:34] <@roc> I think we all understand there are costs and benefits to adding nondeterminism
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1459. # [13:35] <jgraham> Sorry, I didn't intend to be patronising :(
1460. # [13:35] <@roc> it's not clear to me that making test runs more fine-grained, more parallel, and more nondeterministic is a net win at this point
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1462. # [13:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/034ea27970d0 - Tom Schuster - Bug 944906 - Small cleanup around bool outparams in jsapi.cpp. r=sfink
1463. # [13:35] <@roc> it's alright, I didn't intend to be snarky :-)
1464. # [13:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0270980e1c05 - Tom Schuster - Bug 942453 - Handlify IndexToId. r=terrence
1465. # [13:37] <jgraham> Well it's not clear to me what works best overall either. But I think the wins are big enough that we need to move to a place where we can at least expreiment with the benefits and assess the costs
1466. # [13:37] <@roc> I, personally, spend more of my time trying to figure out why tests failed than waiting for test results. Mainly because I can do other productive things while waiting for test results. Like sleep. So I'm averse to making the former harder.
1467. # [13:37] <jgraham> For the web-platform-tests, for example, parallelisation means that I can run all the tests on my laptop in about 10 mintues, compared to about an hour in serial
1468. # [13:38] <@roc> maybe it depends on whether you spend more time writing tests or fixing implementation bugs :-)
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1470. # [13:39] <jgraham> Right, but the relevant number is not how long you spend figuring out why tests failed, it's the time you spend figuring out why tests failed where the failure is caused by something that would be affected by more non-determinism
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1478. # [13:41] <@roc> I don't know, but reproducible bugs are so much easier to fix than non-reproducible ones
1479. # [13:42] <@roc> the cost of the latter dominate
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1485. # [13:47] <glandium> roc: don't you like heisenbugs?
1486. # [13:48] <@roc> I hate them so much I've spent a lot of time thinking about how to eliminate them permanently, and encouraged others to do the same
1487. # [13:49] <@roc> if we crack the record and replay problem, and debugging in general, we can make some major changes to the way software is developed
1488. # [13:49] <@roc> for example, unit tests become less important
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1490. # [13:50] <ttaubert> same here, I have the luck of maintaining lots of old tests (as probably most of us) and thought a lot about how to address that somehow
1491. # [13:50] <@roc> and as we've discussed here, instead of avoiding nondeterminism, we can embrace it. In fact, it starts to make sense to maximize it.
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1493. # [13:50] <ttaubert> +1
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1495. # [13:51] <@roc> but we're still a few technical breakthroughs away from this.
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1498. # [13:52] <glandium> roc: shitload of memory and simple devices?
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1501. # [13:54] <@roc> http://rr-project.org
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1503. # [13:54] <glandium> my eyes are bleeding
1504. # [13:55] <@roc> currently foiled by weird bugs that are probably CPU quirks
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1506. # [13:56] <@roc> if we get over that hump, remaining big technical issues are 1) extending these techniques to multicore execution, which requires hardware support (Intel is interested though)
1507. # [13:57] <@roc> 2) understanding how to make recorded execution match normal execution in terms of bugs encountered
1508. # [13:57] <@roc> 3) building an excellent debugging experience on top
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1528. # [14:15] <jelle> hi
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1534. # [14:29] <firebot> Check-in:
1535. # [14:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d98eed0e5fb - Mats Palmgren - Bug 950467, part 2 - Only call GetFontFacesForText for the first text continuation, but with aFollowContinuations=true, and optimize GetFontFacesForText for that case.
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1537. # [14:29] <firebot> r=roc
1538. # [14:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/10d3df2b7121 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 950467, part 3 - Remove the unused aFrame param from nsFontFaceList::AddFontsFromTextRun. r=roc
1539. # [14:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/814283f9c96a - Mats Palmgren - Bug 950467, part 1 - Iterate continuations only at the outermost level, recursing into each. r=roc
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1565. # [14:48] <Yoric> ttaubert: ping
1566. # [14:48] <ttaubert> Yoric: yo
1567. # [14:48] <Yoric> Hi
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1569. # [14:48] <Yoric> I'm trying to write tests for bug 942340.
1570. # [14:48] <Yoric> At the moment, I'm blocked by a memory leak.
1571. # [14:49] <Yoric> Do you know what we need to clean up when we open a window?
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1574. # [14:50] <ttaubert> Yoric: we shouldn't need to clean up anything afaik. can you paste the current state of your test somewhere?
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1578. # [14:51] <Yoric> ttaubert: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3803222
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1580. # [14:51] <Yoric> Note: |promiseWindow| is |provideWindow| (defined in head.js) patched to return a promise.
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1582. # [14:52] <ttaubert> ok
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1584. # [14:53] <ttaubert> Yoric: I've always used promiseNewWindow()
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1586. # [14:53] <ttaubert> Yoric: and please don't ask why we have multiple :(
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1588. # [14:54] <Yoric> Ok, I'll just use that.
1589. # [14:54] <ttaubert> Yoric: also, promiseWindowClosed(win)
1590. # [14:55] <ttaubert> those two things may hopefully fix it?
1591. # [14:55] <Yoric> Hopefully.
1592. # [14:55] <mjrosenb> does python have a way to say "I'd like you to go run an external program, and I simply don't care when it ends, as long as we ensure that it has finished running before we exit"?
1593. # [14:55] <Yoric> The tests have been surprisingly difficult to write, so far.
1594. # [14:55] <jelle> hi is this channel also for questions related to firefox?
1595. # [14:55] <ttaubert> Yoric: fixing leaks is always a little magic unfortunately
1596. # [14:55] <Yoric> jelle: Generally, it's rather #firefox.
1597. # [14:55] <ttaubert> Yoric: what has been esp. difficult?
1598. # [14:56] <Yoric> jelle: Unless you are writing code for Firefox, in which case it may be here, #introduction, #extdev or any number of other places.
1599. # [14:56] <Yoric> ttaubert: nsITelemetry oddities and leaks.
1600. # [14:56] <ttaubert> Yoric: hm ok :|
1601. # [14:56] <jelle> Yoric: well code related to firefox
1602. # [14:56] <Yoric> Being sick probably doesn't help, though.
1603. # [14:57] <Yoric> jelle: Well, you can ask the question. In the worst case, we'll send you somewhere else.
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1605. # [14:57] <jelle> cool
1606. # [14:57] <Yoric> ttaubert: Thanks.
1607. # [14:58] <ttaubert> Yoric: you mean that fixed it?
1608. # [14:58] <jelle> basically I'm looking into implementing s/mime in a webapp and I wonder if firefox offers a way to do this, cryptographic lib and cert store
1609. # [14:58] <jelle> I know nss exists, but I can't find docs about how to use it in an firefox extension for example
1610. # [14:58] <Yoric> ttaubert: It did, yes.
1611. # [14:59] <ttaubert> Yoric: nice
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1618. # [15:00] <Yoric> jelle: It probably won't be easy to use from an extension. If you're coding in JS, you'll need to bind the functions of nss using js-ctypes.
1619. # [15:01] <jelle> Yoric: ok
1620. # [15:01] <jelle> Yoric: webcrypto API should bake it easier
1621. # [15:01] <jelle> but it seems to be in an unfinished state
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1623. # [15:01] <Yoric> I have no idea of its state, unfortunately.
1624. # [15:02] <jelle> Yoric: I've taken a look at a couple of pgp/encryption extensions and they are it seems using depreacated functions
1625. # [15:02] <jelle> Yoric: np, there is a firefox bug report + extension
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1628. # [15:02] <jelle> https://github.com/polycrypt/foxycrypt
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1630. # [15:04] <jelle> Yoric: so btw js-ctypes are used here https://github.com/polycrypt/foxycrypt/blob/master/ext/content/foxycrypt.jsm ?
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1632. # [15:05] <Yoric> jelle: I think so, yes.
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1641. # [15:08] <jelle> Yoric: ok thanks, but it seems that Components is deprecated
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1643. # [15:08] <Yoric> jelle: Only in web apps, not in addons.
1644. # [15:09] <jelle> oh thanks
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1664. # [15:19] <jelle> Yoric: would you recommend implementing encryption/decryption in an extension?
1665. # [15:20] <Yoric> jelle: I have no clue, I'm afraid.
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1667. # [15:20] <Yoric> If you need one, you can implement it (or update an existing one).
1668. # [15:20] <Yoric> That's all I can tell.
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1671. # [15:21] <jelle> Yoric: ok, one question, can you access certfiicates from an extension?
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1673. # [15:21] <Yoric> There is an API for working with certificates, but I don't know what it provides.
1674. # [15:21] <jelle> ok
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1679. # [15:24] <Dwight_Stegall> why are several older certificate managers still in firefox? wouldnt firefox be smaller, run faster, and be easier for developers to work on if the many old features (now hidden) were removed?
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1681. # [15:26] <gcp> that statement makes me want to cry
1682. # [15:26] <gcp> (yes)
1683. # [15:26] <gcp> however, try doing it
1684. # [15:26] <gcp> you'll be called worse than hitler, at best
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1688. # [15:27] <twi> and keep this handy for when that happens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MLry6Cn_D4
1689. # [15:28] <RyanVM> gcp: lolbloat
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1691. # [15:30] <Gijs> huh
1692. # [15:30] <Gijs> so my C++ isn't perfect
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1694. # [15:30] <Gijs> but this block if #ifdefs seems very weird
1695. # [15:30] <Gijs> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/base/nsDocumentViewer.cpp#124
1696. # [15:30] <Gijs> *block of
1697. # [15:31] <NeilAway> Gijs: rofl
1698. # [15:31] <padenot> better make sure NOISY_VIEWER is undef
1699. # [15:31] <@bz_sleep> well
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1701. # [15:31] <@bz_sleep> This allows a one-line change to turn on NOISY_VIEWER in debug builds only
1702. # [15:31] <@bz_sleep> on the other hand, I will bet money flipping NOISY_VIEWER doesn't compile.
1703. # [15:32] <@bz_sleep> Since no one has used it in a decade.
1704. # [15:32] <Gijs> I mean, there are ifdefs further down that do log stuff if it's defined
1705. # [15:32] <Gijs> and on the surface it looks like those would compile
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1707. # [15:32] <Gijs> but, um, yeah
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1709. # [15:32] <@bz_sleep> Oh, there's just the one printf
1710. # [15:32] <@bz_sleep> That probably works
1711. # [15:32] <@bz_sleep> but is not useful
1712. # [15:32] <@bz_sleep> just kill it all?
1713. # [15:33] <Gijs> right
1714. # [15:33] <Gijs> will do that in the patch I'm working on anyway
1715. # [15:33] <Gijs> :)
1716. # [15:33] <gcp> twi: need to save that link
1717. # [15:33] <gcp> will come in useful, I'm sure
1718. # [15:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fdfd0621d658 - Paul Adenot - Bug 936784 - Don't overbuffer in the MSG on AudioContext shutdown. r=roc,ehsan
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1722. # [15:36] <clb> when building firefox on OSX, can I get an xcode workspace+project in xcode for firefox?
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1729. # [15:41] <till> clb: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Debugging_on_Mac_OS_X
1730. # [15:42] <till> clb: you might also want to look into Eclipse CDT: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Eclipse_CDT
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1735. # [15:47] <Yoric> clb: My experience is that XCode is too slow to handle such a large project, though.
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1739. # [15:48] <clb> thanks!
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1741. # [15:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8939e7f497db - Tim Taubert - Bug 786347 - Follow-up to clear timeout when ping request has finished r=bz
1742. # [15:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/71f5da42bd04 - Jan de Mooij - No bug - Make jit_test.py --ion use --ion-parallel-compile=off with --ion-eager, to match --tbpl. r=terrence on IRC
1743. # [15:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2ca8e48896c4 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 922681 part 2 - Add some innerHTML tests. r=bz
1744. # [15:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1a5bb2f11bfb - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge mozilla-inbound to mozilla-central
1745. # [15:50] <Yoric> ttaubert: One more thing – I'm testing that telemetry takes into account closed windows and, so far, it doesn't.
1746. # [15:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/323b1482feec - Jan de Mooij - Bug 950725 - Fix GetAndClearException to get/clear the exception before calling js_HandleExecutionInterrupt. r=bhackett
1747. # [15:50] <kk1fff> mayhemer: ping
1748. # [15:51] <mayhemer> kk1fff: yep
1749. # [15:51] <Yoric> I suspect that waiting for |promiseWindowClosed| is not sufficient.
1750. # [15:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/86e63d21402f - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge fx-team to mozilla-central
1751. # [15:51] <Yoric> Do you have any suggestion on what I should be waiting for?
1752. # [15:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ae5d8b396299 - Michael Ratcliffe - Bug 864098 - Add "Disable Cache" to options panel r=jwalker
1753. # [15:51] <ttaubert> Yoric: it really should be actually. we're just listening for domwindowclosed in SessionStore.jsm
1754. # [15:52] <ttaubert> Yoric: if that window doesn't have a tab with something interesting in it, we're not going to put it in the closed tab list
1755. # [15:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/966071cd8883 - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 4 gaia-central revision(s) a=gaia-bump
1756. # [15:52] <kk1fff> hi, I'd like to use TCP socket in content process, but current tcp socket doesn't support bind. is it possible to add this function?
1757. # [15:52] <ttaubert> Yoric: so maybe do addTab() promiseBrowserLoaded() etc and then close the window
1758. # [15:52] <Yoric> Closed tab or closed window?
1759. # [15:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/32a40f2c842c - Eric Chou - Bug 949772 - Fire PropertyChanged to registered BluetoothDevice objects, r=gyeh
1760. # [15:52] <ttaubert> Yoric: closed window list sorry
1761. # [15:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f04d4d42ac8a - Eric Chou - Bug 949772 - Make BluetoothAdpater be able to deal with multiple properties in one PropertyChanged event, f=btian, r=gyeh
1762. # [15:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7ec385eb27f5 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge b2g-inbound to mozilla-central
1763. # [15:52] <Yoric> Ok, makes sense, thanks.
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1766. # [15:54] <Yoric> ttaubert: Do you remember how to open a tab in a specific window?
1767. # [15:55] <Yoric> ttaubert: Ah, got it.
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1769. # [15:57] <kk1fff> mayhemer: ^
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1771. # [15:58] <mayhemer> kk1fff: there is a bug for that no?
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1775. # [16:01] <kk1fff> mayhemer: I am implementing bug 950660, but find bind by needed in webrtc's socket.
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1781. # [16:02] <mayhemer> kk1fff: it's definitely possible
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1783. # [16:02] <mayhemer> kk1fff: what exactly you need from me?
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1787. # [16:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a5bb2f11bfb - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge mozilla-inbound to mozilla-central
1788. # [16:04] <kk1fff> mayhemer: I am thinking of add bind function to TCPSocket.js, which uses SocketTransport. But I didn't see bind is supported by SocketTransport.
1789. # [16:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/32a40f2c842c - Eric Chou - Bug 949772 - Fire PropertyChanged to registered BluetoothDevice objects, r=gyeh
1790. # [16:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ec385eb27f5 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge b2g-inbound to mozilla-central
1791. # [16:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/966071cd8883 - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 4 gaia-central revision(s) a=gaia-bump
1792. # [16:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae5d8b396299 - Michael Ratcliffe - Bug 864098 - Add "Disable Cache" to options panel r=jwalker
1793. # [16:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86e63d21402f - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge fx-team to mozilla-central
1794. # [16:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f3d18ff868b - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Merge mozilla-central to mozilla-inbound
1795. # [16:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f04d4d42ac8a - Eric Chou - Bug 949772 - Make BluetoothAdpater be able to deal with multiple properties in one PropertyChanged event, f=btian, r=gyeh
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1797. # [16:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> padenot: ping
1798. # [16:05] <padenot> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hi
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1801. # [16:06] <padenot> ha
1802. # [16:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32156755&tree=Mozilla-Inbound :)
1803. # [16:06] <mayhemer> kk1fff: you didn't anwer my question :)
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1807. # [16:07] <kk1fff> mayhemer: so I think maybe I can add bind to SocketTransportService. But I am not sure if it's the right way to achieve this.
1808. # [16:07] <padenot> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I'll fix in place, if that's ok
1809. # [16:08] <Ms2ger> padenot, at this time of day? :)
1810. # [16:08] <mayhemer> kk1fff: ok, so you want to work on adding Bind on nsISocketTransport, is that so?
1811. # [16:08] <padenot> Ms2ger: yeah, that's an easy fix
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1813. # [16:09] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> padenot: yeah thats ok
1814. # [16:09] <yeukhon> when i run SpecialPowers.registerConsoleListener on desktop build it "loops" but b2g build seems to do a one-time pass and done.
1815. # [16:09] <mayhemer> kk1fff: or on nsISocketTransportServise that provides them
1816. # [16:09] <yeukhon> any idea why this is the behvaior?
1817. # [16:09] <kk1fff> mayhemer: yes
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1822. # [16:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eaa48b9c7094 - Paul Adenot - Bug 936784 - Only mute on Shutdown if the AudioContext is not an OfflineAudioContext.
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1824. # [16:13] <mayhemer> kk1fff: ok, what is the bug# ?
1825. # [16:13] <mayhemer> kk1fff: I'll comment on the bug with suggetions how to do it, ok?
1826. # [16:14] <Gijs> bz_sleep: r?you on removing the NOISY_VIEWER stuff and oh, also adding a pref for onbeforeunload ;)
1827. # [16:14] <Ms2ger> Good morning, bz_sleep
1828. # [16:14] <padenot> say I have a DOM element in a webpage, if I call addEventListener on it, and then remove the node from the document, without having a reference to it somewhere, will it get collected?
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1831. # [16:14] <padenot> I don't have to call removeEventListener, right?
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1834. # [16:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> thanks padenot :)
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1836. # [16:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b492b10f992 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 950311 - deCOM nsIDOMLoadStatus. r=mayhemer
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1838. # [16:15] <kk1fff> mayhemer: I haven't file a bug for this, let me file one now.
1839. # [16:16] <Ms2ger> padenot, which event?
1840. # [16:16] <mayhemer> kk1fff: ok, cc me please, just find me via the irc nickname, best also NI? me with questions
1841. # [16:16] <mayhemer> kk1fff: (NI? = needinfo?)
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1843. # [16:16] <padenot> Ms2ger: hm, loadedmetadata, ended, seeked, on a HTMLMediaElement
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1845. # [16:16] <mayhemer> kk1fff: thanks
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1848. # [16:17] <kk1fff> mayhemer: ok. thanks!
1849. # [16:17] <Ms2ger> padenot, I would happily believe that those keep the element alive
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1851. # [16:17] <padenot> ha
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1877. # [16:19] <padenot> Ms2ger: where would I go to make sure?
1878. # [16:20] <Ms2ger> roc
1879. # [16:20] <padenot> wildcard
1880. # [16:20] <padenot> heh
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1899. # [16:29] <Yoric> ttaubert: I'm now working on formdata stuff.
1900. # [16:29] <ttaubert> Yoric: what do you mean by stuff?
1901. # [16:29] <Yoric> Is there anything I need to send to the parent process to ensure that it is taken into account immediately?
1902. # [16:29] <Yoric> telemetry
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1905. # [16:30] <Yoric> I can't find any example in the existing test suite, so far.
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1909. # [16:31] <Yoric> As in ss-test:SessionStore:input?
1910. # [16:32] <ttaubert> ummm let me think
1911. # [16:32] <ttaubert> actually
1912. # [16:32] <ttaubert> you could set form data
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1914. # [16:32] <ttaubert> call TabStateCache.delete()
1915. # [16:32] <ttaubert> and TabSTate.collect
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1917. # [16:32] <ttaubert> or getTabState
1918. # [16:32] <ttaubert> or collect statistics :)
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1922. # [16:34] <Yoric> Well, collecting statistics doesn't seem to do it.
1923. # [16:35] <Yoric> Ah, missed the TabStateCache.delete().
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1929. # [16:43] <Yoric> ttaubert: Mmmhh... TabStateCache.delete() doesn't seem to help.
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1931. # [16:43] <Yoric> I get the same state before and after.
1932. # [16:45] <ejpbruel> bz: ping
1933. # [16:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a6a38ef6d142 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 948162 - Update DependentAddPtr's ptr on GC r=terrence
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1938. # [16:46] <ttaubert> Yoric: hm but it should force us to recollect shistory that includes form data
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1942. # [16:52] <Yoric> I'll try again later.
1943. # [16:52] <Yoric> Time to head home.
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1950. # [16:58] <@bz> ejpbruel: ack
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1953. # [16:58] <@bz> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=f99927e57cbb is green
1954. # [16:58] <ejpbruel> bz: hey!
1955. # [16:58] <@bz> but my local builds from that rev and all the try pushes I based on it are totally broken?
1956. # [16:58] <ejpbruel> bz: I've been doing some more thinking about the debugger API for workers
1957. # [16:58] <ejpbruel> bz: gabor came up with a clever idea that I think could work, so I'd like your feedback on it
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1960. # [17:00] <ejpbruel> bz: basically, on the main thread I want the debugger API to be visible on Worker, but only accessible on chrome, whereas in a worker thread, I want the debugger API to be *invisible* (and expose it indirectly, on the global we use for the debugger script)
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1962. # [17:00] <decoder> haha: http://img.pr0gramm.com/2013/12/zmuzg62.gif
1963. # [17:00] <ejpbruel> bz: we should be able to use the [Func=] attribute in webidl for this
1964. # [17:01] <ejpbruel> bz: for this = to control visibility of the debugger API on Worker
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1966. # [17:01] <@bz> yes
1967. # [17:01] <@bz> absolutely
1968. # [17:01] <ejpbruel> bz: on the main thread, I'd like the debugger API to only be callable by chrome
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1970. # [17:01] <ejpbruel> bz: the obvious thing to do would be [[ChromeOnly]]
1971. # [17:01] <ejpbruel> bz: now my question is
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1973. # [17:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff67c72677a6 - Till Schneidereit - Bug 872971 - Clamp regexp quantifiers to INT_MAX. r=jandem
1974. # [17:02] <ejpbruel> bz: what implications will have [[ChromeOnly]] have in a worker?
1975. # [17:02] <ejpbruel> bz: workers have their own principal, which isn't chrome (not even for ChromeWorkers)
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1977. # [17:02] <jib> Browser Toolbox is busted for me on OSX, anyone else seeing this? Assertion failure: !k->compartment()->options_.invisibleToDebugger(), at /Users/Jan/moz/mozilla-central/js/src/vm/Debugger.h:93
1978. # [17:02] <@bz> it'll be based on the principal of the page that created the worker, iirc
1979. # [17:02] * @bz is not sure about sharedworkers
1980. # [17:02] <jib> on today's Nightly
1981. # [17:03] <ejpbruel> bz: right, but thats now the behaviour I want for debugger scripts
1982. # [17:03] <ejpbruel> bz: *not
1983. # [17:03] <@bz> Right
1984. # [17:03] <@bz> So you use Func
1985. # [17:03] <ejpbruel> bz: debugger scripts always get the system principal
1986. # [17:03] * @bz checks something
1987. # [17:03] <ejpbruel> bz: right, Func solves the problem of only exposing the debugger API on the main thread
1988. # [17:04] <@bz> ThreadsafeCheckIsChrome
1989. # [17:04] <@bz> is what [ChromeOnly] uses
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1992. # [17:05] <ejpbruel> bz: i need to check with what principal the debugger script currently runs
1993. # [17:05] <@bz> In any case, the whole point of Func is that you can make it do whatever you want
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1995. # [17:05] <ejpbruel> bz: so
1996. # [17:05] <ejpbruel> bz: [ChromeOnly] only enforces this on the JS level, doesnt it?
1997. # [17:06] <jib> on m-c
1998. # [17:06] <ejpbruel> bz: that is, if i'd were to call the function on the underlying object directly from c++
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2000. # [17:06] <@bz> yes
2001. # [17:06] <@bz> All these annotations only enforce what's defined on the JS objects
2002. # [17:06] <@bz> All the underlying C++ code exists no matter what
2003. # [17:06] <ejpbruel> bz: in that case i can probably not care about [ChromeOnly] in Workers
2004. # [17:06] <ejpbruel> bz: since i only use it for functions that aren't exposed in Workers anyway
2005. # [17:07] <ejpbruel> bz: ok, this sounds good
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2007. # [17:07] <ejpbruel> bz: thanks again, that was very useful :)
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2009. # [17:07] <jmaher> felipe: ping
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2015. # [17:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a081f99b568d - Honza Bambas - Bug 917423 - HTTP cache v2: Migrate Wyciwyg to the new cache API, r=michal
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2017. # [17:11] <roka> Hello! I have a problem with this manifest file: http://m.blitzer.de/manifest.appcache Firefox complains about the mime type but it is set to text/cache-manifest. Any ideas what is wrong?
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2024. # [17:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> padenot: this showed up on your push for bug 936784 - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32158560&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
2025. # [17:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> padenot: the first push, that is
2026. # [17:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> padenot: did the second push resolve it?
2027. # [17:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> padenot: and https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32158787&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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2029. # [17:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> padenot: ah, nevermind
2030. # [17:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> helps to not be in "only unstarred" mode :P
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2033. # [17:18] <padenot> heh
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2042. # [17:22] <felipe> jmaher: pong
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2044. # [17:23] <jmaher> felipe: are you the same felipe that is working on browser-chrome debug tests on linux/
2045. # [17:23] <felipe> jmaher: yes
2046. # [17:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f4cfcded77e - Dan Gohman - Bug 951527 - SpiderMonkey: Fix codegen for mixed-type MoveGroup cycles. r=jandem
2047. # [17:23] <jmaher> felipe: great, I know a bit about these, I can be a resource and help out if needed
2048. # [17:23] <jmaher> felipe: one thing is to know is that your loaner machine will be turned off for the entire break
2049. # [17:23] <jmaher> unless you ask them to keep it turned on
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2051. # [17:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba35f88d8104 - Malini Das - Bug 950098 - Remove dependency on pylib, r=ahal
2052. # [17:24] <felipe> jmaher: no problem, i'll be away during that time too. will it come back online after the break or do I have to re-request?
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2054. # [17:25] <jmaher> felipe: it will be brought back online january 2nd
2055. # [17:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/852a854706d4 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 950336 - add a pref to disable onbeforeunload, r=bz
2056. # [17:25] <jmaher> they are just turning them off to shave a few bucks off our bill since we are on holiday
2057. # [17:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/79b2d9e4e25f - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 951511. If jar module shutdown happens before all the jar channels are destroyed, we still shouldn't crash. r=bsmedberg
2058. # [17:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/745ca55d396a - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 949501. Make nullable unions that are isMember stop claiming to have a holder. r=dzbarsky
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2068. # [17:30] <Ms2ger> Did I miss the reason behind the closure, btw?
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2085. # [17:37] <felipe> jmaher: if i understand it correctly, in these jobs: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Cedar&showall=1&jobname=Ubuntu.*x64.*debug.*mochitest-browser-chrome , "bc" is a full run of the tests unchunkified, and bc1 bc2 bc3 are the same tests, in chunks.. right? or is "bc" just a chunk too?
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2088. # [17:38] <jmaher> felipe: correct
2089. # [17:38] <jmaher> bc = browser-chrome, no chunks
2090. # [17:38] <jmaher> felipe: we want to make debug linux tests run on ec2 (priority #1)
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2092. # [17:39] <jmaher> felipe: and we want to chunk them (which should be easier and less tests infecting other tests) to make them more flexible and run faster
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2095. # [17:39] <jmaher> felipe: those are the goals in priority status
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2097. # [17:39] <felipe> jmaher: and opt is all fine, just debug that is having problems?
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2099. # [17:39] <jmaher> felipe: correct
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2101. # [17:39] <felipe> jmaher: ok. what else is in Cedar that is not in m-c? are there tests that have been disabled there?
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2103. # [17:40] <jmaher> felipe: there is one test that was disabled in cedar
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2105. # [17:40] <jmaher> felipe: specifically browser_bug410900.js
2106. # [17:41] <jmaher> felipe: but that actually passes by itself or the subdirectory of tests run solo
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2108. # [17:41] <felipe> k
2109. # [17:41] <felipe> should I be using Cedar or m-c for this work?
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2111. # [17:42] <Ms2ger> Oh, the monument in SF is up?
2112. # [17:42] <@gavin> yeah, it is
2113. # [17:42] <@gavin> couldn't find your name on it
2114. # [17:43] <jmaher> felipe: either will work- cedar is setup to split jobs and see how things run; on your loaner slave you can use any sources
2115. # [17:43] <Ms2ger> gavin, not? I thought I joined the group
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2117. # [17:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aad5b9304896 - David Burns - Bug 951453: Updating capabilities of Marionette; r=mdas
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2121. # [17:44] <@gavin> felipe: you should only land on cedar if it ends up being useful to debug further failures, IMO - the goal here is to fix m-c
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2123. # [17:45] <jmaher> gavin++
2124. # [17:45] <@gavin> though I suppose you could work on cedar and then eventually just merge it over, if you like that workflow
2125. # [17:45] <@gavin> maybe overkill for the amount of changes required
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2128. # [17:46] <@gavin> Ms2ger: you have a mozillians profile?
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2131. # [17:46] <felipe> yeah if there's not much extra in Cedar to help debug things I'll go directly in m-c
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2133. # [17:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61dd26c7e90d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 944300 - Disable browser_tabview_privatebrowsing_perwindowpb.js on Linux for intermittent failures.
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2135. # [17:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b615cc7b3659 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 939617 - Disable browser_tabview_bug659594.js on OSX for intermittent failures.
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2137. # [17:46] <felipe> jmaher: last q: where can I find any docs on how to run the tests using mozharness instead of calling them through mach? I suppose that's the best way to go
2138. # [17:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c28261d9fbd2 - Ryan VanderMeulen - No bug - Miscellaneous tabview test manifest cleanups.
2139. # [17:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0c112c5932b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 736036 - Disable browser_tabview_bug610242.js on all platforms for intermittent failures.
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2141. # [17:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29c0ebd983f9 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 945687 - Disable browser_tabview_group.js on OSX and Windows for intermittent leaks.
2142. # [17:46] <Ms2ger> gavin, sure, https://mozillians.org/u/Ms2ger/
2143. # [17:47] <jmaher> felipe: give me a few minutes, I will send you an email with examples
2144. # [17:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/75ba6322ea36 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 951477 - Disable browser_tabview_bug613541.js on Windows for intermittent failures.
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2146. # [17:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/758fa4710d0b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 947521 - Disable browser_tabview_bug607108.js on Linux for intermittent failures.
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2148. # [17:47] <@gavin> Ms2ger: oh, I was confused by not being logged in
2149. # [17:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b64a11469a3 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 946918 - Disable browser_tabview_bug656778.js on OSX for intermittent failures.
2150. # [17:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c10085b2ad5 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 922422 - Disable browser_tabview_bug630157.js and browser_tabview_bug631662.js on all platforms for intermittent failures.
2151. # [17:47] <@gavin> Ms2ger: I was just kidding, I haven't inspected the monument names
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2153. # [17:48] <felipe> jmaher: cool, thanks! I'll ping again after I get the loaner if more questions come up
2154. # [17:48] <Ms2ger> gavin, dammit, now I'll need to go to SF to check :)
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2156. # [17:48] <Ms2ger> jst, so about that work week... ;)
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2161. # [17:50] <Gijs> Dumb question time: I'm in an XPCOM component, I have a self-referencing function and I need a second outparam, as it were. But this method is scriptable and I'd like to keep it that way. What's the Best solution? :)
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2163. # [17:51] <Gijs> In particular, I need the 'parent' calls of the recursive calls to be able to bail out if something in their child/descendant calls changes.
2164. # [17:51] <Ms2ger> Also, there's only one photo of the monument?
2165. # [17:51] <Gijs> (oh, um, probably relevant: the recursive methods get invoked on different objects, so I can't use a field)
2166. # [17:51] <@gavin> I have seen multiple photos
2167. # [17:52] <Gijs> (unless I somehow keep track of the 'root' object and modify the field on there)
2168. # [17:52] * felipe is waiting for hi-res, 360º pics of the monument to be posted for name-spotting
2169. # [17:52] <ttaubert> heh
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2171. # [17:52] <ttaubert> 4 pics would do
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2205. # [18:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b7c9e1ddcf5a - Olli Pettay - Bug 944128 - Random failures with test_bug_461710_perwindowpb.html. r=ehsan, a=test-only
2206. # [18:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/48950cec9655 - Olli Pettay - Bug 944125 - test_bug602962.xul is racy. r=ehsan, a=test-only
2207. # [18:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/9f4b4417d125 - Olli Pettay - Bug 944126 - Random failures with browser_privatebrowsing_aboutSessionRestore.js. r=ehsan, a=test-only
2208. # [18:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/069d7c01db7d - Olli Pettay - Bug 950337 - Random failures in privatebrowsing/test/browser/browser_privatebrowsing_cache.js. r=ehsan, a=test-only
2209. # [18:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8bb67e4b5d97 - Olli Pettay - Bug 949227 - browser_bug609700.js | Found an unexpected tab at the end of test run: about:blank. r=gavin, a=test-only
2210. # [18:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/df1dead3ff67 - Steven MacLeod - Bug 546169 - Use an event listener instead of a timeout to avoid intermittent failures. r=gavin, a=test-only
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2214. # [18:10] <josh> Anyone know why my local mozilla-central build fails the first time with a list of missing symbols? Completes just fine when I do "mach build" again. This started maybe three weeks ago.
2215. # [18:10] <josh> on OS X 10.9
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2217. # [18:12] <@ehsan> josh: what symbols?
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2223. # [18:15] <josh> ehsan: paste bin cuts me off at 650 lines or so, but here it is:
2224. # [18:15] <josh> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3804098
2225. # [18:15] <josh> I emailed you the full failure
2226. # [18:16] <@ehsan> josh: please comment on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=948876
2227. # [18:16] <@ehsan> josh: this is probably a race condition in the build system
2228. # [18:16] * @ehsan has no idea where it is :(
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2231. # [18:18] <josh> ehsan: done, thanks, I will try to attach a verbose build log
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2235. # [18:19] <@ehsan> josh: thanks, and sorry that you're hitting this bug
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2238. # [18:19] <josh> no reason to believe you caused this, no need to apologize! (even if you did cause it, really, regressions happen)
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2240. # [18:20] <josh> A small price to pay for how much better the build system has got in the past six to nine months I guess
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2242. # [18:21] <Ms2ger> josh, he's Canadian, let him :)
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2244. # [18:22] <@ehsan> josh: well, I did change many things in how we build ICU... :/
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2246. # [18:22] <@ehsan> josh: (I didn't mean unified builds ;)
2247. # [18:22] <@ehsan> (this is probably a regression from bug 915735)
2248. # [18:22] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: also, I'm not a Canadian, not yet at least :)
2249. # [18:23] <Ms2ger> ehsan, nearly?
2250. # [18:23] <@ehsan> no, not even nearly!
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2258. # [18:25] <josh> ehsan: I am doing another clobber with build -v since I can repro this 100%, hopefully the log is useful. I also hope it repros with -v.
2259. # [18:25] <@ehsan> it would be very valuable indeed!
2260. # [18:26] <@ehsan> (note that you mostly want to talk to glandium about this, I really don't know how the dependency graph works and where exactly the ICU stuff fits in...)
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2271. # [18:33] <Gijs> if I'm in nsFoo that implements nsIFoo, and I want the interface pointer for this to pass as an argument to a function, can I just pass |this| or do I need some magical macro/queryinterface/temp var/... ?
2272. # [18:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/550257a8f82f - Till Schneidereit - Bug 872971 - Followup: Remove bogus test from a CLOSED TREE. r=jwalden
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2274. # [18:35] <@bsmedberg> Gijs: this is fine
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2276. # [18:35] <@bsmedberg> Gijs: you need to make sure that you are currently strong-reffed, but that's normally automatic unless you're in the nsFoo constructor or something weird like that
2277. # [18:35] <Gijs> ok! :)
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2281. # [18:36] * Gijs sees an nsRefPtr<nsDocumentViewer> kungFuDeathGrip(this); above this and assumes he's going to be OK
2282. # [18:38] <@bsmedberg> ugh, really?
2283. # [18:38] <@bsmedberg> kungFuDeathGrip(this) is an antipattern ;-)
2284. # [18:38] <Gijs> bsmedberg: there's a comment and a bug # explaining why it's necessary, so I think I won't touch it in this bug :P
2285. # [18:38] <@bsmedberg> yeah
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2289. # [18:42] <dougt> bsmedberg: who added the first death grip?
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2291. # [18:42] <dougt> i think i know, but don't want to throw him under the bus (just yet)
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2293. # [18:43] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: er, why do you think it's an antipattern?
2294. # [18:43] <@smaug> dougt: don't do suicide, please ;)
2295. # [18:43] <@ehsan> that's how we fix security bugs ;)
2296. # [18:43] <@bsmedberg> dougt: want me to blame hyatt? I really don't know
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2298. # [18:43] <@smaug> yeah, probably hyatt is the one to blame
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2300. # [18:43] <@bsmedberg> dougt: deathgrip in general is a little unfortunate, but not necessarily evil
2301. # [18:43] <@bsmedberg> deathgrip(this) is the thing which is horrifying
2302. # [18:44] <@ehsan> why?
2303. # [18:44] <@ehsan> xpcom callees can happily destroy this
2304. # [18:44] <@ehsan> (the caller's this, that is)
2305. # [18:44] <dougt> https://www.dropbox.com/s/xcjzwi5j83lg6ir/Screenshot%202013-12-18%2012.41.53.png
2306. # [18:45] <@bsmedberg> The caller is expected to hold a reference to anything it's calling a method on or passing as an arg
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2308. # [18:45] <@smaug> problem is using strong member variables
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2311. # [18:45] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: well, that's not true in practice at all
2312. # [18:45] <@bsmedberg> so if reentrancy can change state (by mutating members for example), then they are supposed to use local comptrs, sometimes labeled deathgrip
2313. # [18:45] <@ehsan> also you can have cyclic references etc
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2315. # [18:46] <@ehsan> we do have a ton of cases where we call a method on a weak ptr and expect everything to work
2316. # [18:46] <@bsmedberg> this is inherently dangerous
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2318. # [18:47] <@smaug> yes, those are wrong
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2320. # [18:47] <@ehsan> yes
2321. # [18:47] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=772601 :)
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2331. # [18:53] <@smaug> time, I need time
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2333. # [18:54] <@smaug> tn: could I land the hackier fix for the test?
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2339. # [18:58] <TimAbraldes> what channel should I join to get a hold of someone who runs etherpad.mozilla.org?
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2341. # [18:59] <nalexander> TimAbraldes: maybe #it? I don't konw for sure.
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2343. # [19:00] <yeukhon> how do you log console.log to log file? i have tried importing mochkit/logging and did log(…) but it does't show up in the shell / file output
2344. # [19:01] <yeukhon> i need that to show up in try server log
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2346. # [19:01] <@smaug> yeukhon: use dump() ?
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2348. # [19:02] <@ehsan> smaug: how are the PB tests treating you btw?
2349. # [19:02] <@smaug> ehsan: still few to fix
2350. # [19:03] <@smaug> ehsan: I thought I had fix for all of them
2351. # [19:03] <@smaug> but no
2352. # [19:04] <@smaug> ehsan: the whole setup in browser-chrome tests is problematic
2353. # [19:04] <@smaug> we really should have some event dispatched by browser.js when the window is ready
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2357. # [19:05] <yeukhon> smaug: thanks! couldn't find this.
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2359. # [19:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ab3b1938d32 - Andy Wingo - Bug 951483 - Add back nsCycleCollector::ShutdownCollect assertion that was mistakenly removed in bug 945813. r=mccr8
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2361. # [19:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb804b2f1e96 - Andy Wingo - Bug 942804 - Ion-compile scripts with unaliased let bindings. r=jandem
2362. # [19:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44ba76de0954 - Nils Maier - Bug 950391 - Add nsIMemoryReporterManager.unregisterStrongReporter. r=njn
2363. # [19:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3735493e9aa8 - Milan Sreckovic - Bug 893572 - Add tests and backout part of bug 922942 for regressing the tests prior to them being landed. r=Bas, r=mattwoodrow
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2367. # [19:08] <vlad> ehsan: do you know who should be r?'d on bug 918164 ?
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2374. # [19:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d36904aa4bd - Daniel Holbert - Bug 951755: Fix some flexbox reftests to point to official flexbox spec instead of dev spec. (test-only, metadata-only) DONTBUILD
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2376. # [19:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f01cde340097 - Vladimir Vukicevic - b=949644; set mLibrary in WGL contexts before calling Init; r=bjacob
2377. # [19:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8048271b130d - Vladimir Vukicevic - b=929511; fix WGL context sharing; r=bjacob
2378. # [19:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/72232ad1e83d - Vladimir Vukicevic - b=929508; implement gfxWindowsPlatform::GetScreenDepth; r=jrmuizel
2379. # [19:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8450bc58c1a6 - Vladimir Vukicevic - b=929506; call wglMakeCurrent before Init to get lookup working; r=bjacob
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2381. # [19:13] <vlad> I wish there was some way to have some robot automatically comment in the bug with a push link
2382. # [19:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> vlad: there is
2383. # [19:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mcMerge link on tbpl
2384. # [19:15] <vlad> well, pre-merge
2385. # [19:15] <vlad> like the link to a landing on inbound
2386. # [19:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it works on inbound too
2387. # [19:15] <vlad> oh
2388. # [19:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> try it ;)
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2391. # [19:16] <vlad> huh! look at that
2392. # [19:16] <vlad> I had no clue
2393. # [19:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> :)
2394. # [19:16] <vlad> it's a good thing I don't writ emuch code since I've been doing this manually
2395. # [19:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d73e10e80b85 - Mike Shal - Bug 937901 - Support OSX ICU cross-compiling; r=glandium
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2420. # [19:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f49cc729e9f9 - L. David Baron - Bug 951765: Make CSS variables reftests point to TR draft rather than dev.w3.org draft so the CSS WG test system understands them. No review.
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2427. # [19:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5bfe133fd363 - Dave Hunt - Bug 947205 - fix missing test durations from the HTML report, r=mdas
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2429. # [19:29] <tn> smaug: commented. sorry for the endless back and forth
2430. # [19:30] <@ehsan> BenWa: http://css-tricks.com/snippets/css/a-guide-to-flexbox/
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2433. # [19:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23b96cc7f73b - Malini Das - Bug 867600 - Change hardcoded sleeps into webdriver waits, r=davehunt
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2441. # [19:35] <@smaug> tn: aha
2442. # [19:35] <@smaug> tn: will push yet another version to try
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2446. # [19:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1810ea3ee51 - Dave Hunt - Bug 867600 - Change hardcoded sleeps into waits. r=mdas
2447. # [19:37] <@ehsan> BenWa: http://www.metaltoad.com/blog/return-table-layout-courtesy-box-flex
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2490. # [19:58] <fitzgen> anyone know how to make text from xul elements selectable? tried user-select: text
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2492. # [19:58] <fitzgen> and it isn't working
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2494. # [19:58] <fitzgen> also tried -moz-user-select, which didn't work either
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2499. # [19:59] <fitzgen> jaws: you seem like the knowledgable type :) any idea? ^
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2501. # [20:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> victorporof: fx-team orange - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32167635&tree=Fx-Team
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2506. # [20:03] <ttaubert> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I'm 99% sure we'll have another bc perma-orange on 0005da5d1ba1 but I have a tiny fix for that ready
2507. # [20:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> good times
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2516. # [20:07] <ttaubert> RyanVM|sheriffduty: so are we going to back out if victorporof isn't available?
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2519. # [20:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yes
2520. # [20:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> getting to be about that time, speaking of which
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2522. # [20:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> if you want to push a fix for the other cset, mind backing vp out while you're at it?
2523. # [20:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> might as well kill two birds with one stone
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2525. # [20:08] <ttaubert> RyanVM|sheriffduty: sure I can do that, only the second push, right?
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2527. # [20:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dunno, I suspected the first one personally
2528. # [20:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> when in doubt, back em both out! )
2529. # [20:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> :)
2530. # [20:09] <ttaubert> that has green bc run
2531. # [20:09] <ttaubert> *a
2532. # [20:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> oh
2533. # [20:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I thought you mean the two within the push
2534. # [20:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yes, only the second push
2535. # [20:09] <ttaubert> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok, I suspect it's eb4d2915ab26 because that mentions splitter or should I back out both?
2536. # [20:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I was suspecting that as well, but if there's any doubt, just do both
2537. # [20:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> he can sort it out on his time
2538. # [20:10] <ttaubert> ok
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2541. # [20:11] <billm> ochameau: ping
2542. # [20:11] <ttaubert> RyanVM|sheriffduty: pushed
2543. # [20:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> thanks :)
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2546. # [20:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ttaubert: did you want me to mark the bugs or were you?
2547. # [20:13] <ttaubert> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I can do it
2548. # [20:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> thanks
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2553. # [20:14] <@bz> Is there a way to disable the discrete gpu on an mbp?
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2559. # [20:17] <ttaubert> bz: I found this: http://gfx.io/
2560. # [20:17] <@bsmedberg> gah, html <video> with no volume control
2561. # [20:17] <@bz> yeah, that doesn't seem to let me set integrated-only
2562. # [20:17] <@bz> on 10.8. :(
2563. # [20:17] <ttaubert> bz: oh :( ok
2564. # [20:17] <@bz> ttaubert: That was my reaction too
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2566. # [20:18] <jaws> fitzgen: maybe you need to specify -moz-appearance: none; too
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2570. # [20:19] <fitzgen> hmmm will try
2571. # [20:19] <@bz> interesting
2572. # [20:19] <@bz> running webgl uses the integrated gpu?
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2574. # [20:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4bab70b90e74 - Gregory Szorc - NO BUG - Change Sphinx path for build system docs to work around a silly URL firewall
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2576. # [20:20] <@bz> ah, looks like it depends on the demo
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2579. # [20:22] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: have you done b2g emulator builds on mac?
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2582. # [20:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/940c52e93281 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset aad5b9304896 (bug 951453) for Gaia UI test perma-fail.
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2589. # [20:26] <ttaubert> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I'll back out some more
2590. # [20:26] <ttaubert> RyanVM|sheriffduty: cset 55d8f5ede1d3
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2592. # [20:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> heh, fail
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2595. # [20:27] <@bz> Hmm
2596. # [20:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ttaubert: guess it was asking a bit much to think it had been through Try
2597. # [20:27] <@bz> breaking FORWARD_TO_OUTER doesn't make try happy, turns out
2598. # [20:27] <@bz> who knew??
2599. # [20:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ttaubert: 7289c4384fc7 needs out
2600. # [20:27] <ttaubert> RyanVM|sheriffduty: no. that's what my fix is for
2601. # [20:27] <ttaubert> RyanVM|sheriffduty: there's another failure in there
2602. # [20:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> oh, you mentioned 0005da5d1ba1 earlier
2603. # [20:28] <ttaubert> the .highlighter class stuff
2604. # [20:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ttaubert: sounds good, thanks
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2608. # [20:31] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: I've done it on linux, but I hear from people that mac works fine as well
2609. # [20:32] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: as long as you follow the instructions closely, especially the case sensitive file system paert
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2611. # [20:32] <@ehsan> vlad: let's try bsmith
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2614. # [20:33] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: yeah, I've got that. It's just the build is hanging now after "Install system fs image"
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2618. # [20:36] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: hmm, not sure, maybe ask on #b2g?
2619. # [20:36] * @ehsan builds in a linux vm
2620. # [20:36] * @bsmedberg ponders starting over on Linux, since mac has been so incredibly painful
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2625. # [20:37] <bent> bsmedberg, khuey had that exact same problem a few days ago iirc
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2627. # [20:38] <bent> bsmedberg, well, hanging after system fs
2628. # [20:38] <bent> bsmedberg, not sure about what his build config was
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2633. # [20:41] <@khuey|mtg> bent: hmm?
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2635. # [20:41] <@khuey> bsmedberg: yeah, I had that a few days ago
2636. # [20:41] <@khuey> on linux
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2638. # [20:42] <fabrice> me too, starting today
2639. # [20:42] <fabrice> khuey: did you fix it?
2640. # [20:42] <vlad> did someone track down the case-sensitive portion of the build?
2641. # [20:42] <vlad> like, can we just fix that?
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2644. # [20:43] <@khuey> fabrice: by deleting everything and starting over, yeah
2645. # [20:43] <@khuey> not the answer you were looking for
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2648. # [20:43] <fabrice> indeed...
2649. # [20:43] <fabrice> khuey: by "deleting everything", you your full B2G/ directory?
2650. # [20:44] <@khuey> yeah
2651. # [20:44] <@bsmedberg> I deleted out/ but not everything...
2652. # [20:44] <@khuey> yeah, everything might have been overkill
2653. # [20:44] <@khuey> I was a little angry ;-)
2654. # [20:44] <@bsmedberg> well, out/ didn't help
2655. # [20:44] <fabrice> deleting out/ is ok
2656. # [20:44] <fabrice> ha
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2658. # [20:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b03bd1170d1c - Andrew McCreight - Bug 937960, part 4 - Reduce time until CC when it is incremental. r=smaug
2659. # [20:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/524c573fd8a6 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 937960, part 1 - Add ICC pref to nsJSEnv. r=smaug
2660. # [20:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/adc20d941bd8 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 948554, part 1 - Rename PrepareForCycleCollection and make it a method. r=smaug
2661. # [20:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b43b310858b - Andrew McCreight - Bug 948554, part 2 - Convert some of nsJSEnvironment to TimeStamp for greater precision. r=smaug
2662. # [20:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/419615a1195d - Andrew McCreight - Bug 937960, part 3 - Pass in a small time budget with ICC. r=smaug
2663. # [20:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/472a1be79a9f - Andrew McCreight - Bug 948554, part 3 - Capture max slice time in logs and telemetry. r=smaug
2664. # [20:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1b699b80442 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 937960, part 2 - Add ICC slice timer and scheduling. r=smaug
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2667. # [20:48] <@smaug> go mccr8
2668. # [20:48] <mccr8> woo!
2669. # [20:48] <@smaug> mccr8: anything else to land?
2670. # [20:48] <mccr8> thanks for the billion reviews. ;)
2671. # [20:48] <@smaug> mccr8: nah, it was probably less than 50
2672. # [20:48] <mccr8> smaug: no, once that is done you can at least run ICC, though there are still some problems to investigate.
2673. # [20:48] <mccr8> ha
2674. # [20:48] <mccr8> probably around 50 though.
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2685. # [20:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4d49705cdfe - Marty Rosenberg - Land bug 951573. r=jandem
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2690. # [20:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0ae017eae17 - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 784491 - Part 1: Add constraints to addStream r=jib
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2711. # [21:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cdbe5779c728 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 950427. Don't descend into subdocuments at all in elementFromPoint. r=mats
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2715. # [21:06] <Ms2ger> mccr8, smaug, isn't 50 like a normal month's work for smaug? :)
2716. # [21:07] <ochameau> billm: pong
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2718. # [21:07] <@smaug> Ms2ger: that is only two weeks
2719. # [21:07] <billm> ochameau: I wanted to know how you've been reproducing the issue in bug 673569
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2721. # [21:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fc0610680d3b - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 950856 - Fail the build if you attempt to use NS_StackWalk on Windows where it won't work; r=froydnj,BenWa
2722. # [21:07] <fabrice> khuey: do you think you will have time to look at the patch in bug 938470 soon? I'd like to try re-enabling nuwa this week
2723. # [21:08] <@smaug> Ms2ger: oh, actually, I don't count patches but bugs...
2724. # [21:08] <ochameau> billm: I just played with the code in-place
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2726. # [21:08] <billm> ochameau: on a phone?
2727. # [21:08] <ochameau> billm: oh, yes on b2g
2728. # [21:08] <@khuey> fabrice: you want to try reenabling it on trunk?
2729. # [21:08] <@khuey> or just locally?
2730. # [21:08] <ochameau> billm: I haven't tried to b2g-desktop
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2732. # [21:09] <ochameau> billm: but without bug 951609 applied, you should see exception during phone startup
2733. # [21:09] <billm> ochameau: ok, thanks
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2735. # [21:11] <billm> ochameau: what's the exception, by the way?
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2737. # [21:11] <ochameau> billm: something like: "DebuggerServer is not defined" {file: "resource://gre/modules/devtools/server/child.js"
2738. # [21:11] <billm> ok
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2740. # [21:12] <ochameau> billm: oh but to trigger this code you would have to connect with the app manager
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2742. # [21:13] <billm> ochameau: which code? the code that fires the exception?
2743. # [21:13] <fabrice> khuey: on trunk
2744. # [21:14] <@khuey> fabrice: I need to fix the about:memory thing first
2745. # [21:14] <fabrice> ok
2746. # [21:14] <ochameau> billm: yes... you have to open a recent firefox, open app:manager, open device panel, select an app and click on DEBUG button
2747. # [21:14] <@khuey> fabrice: anyways I'll probaby review it this week
2748. # [21:14] <ochameau> billm: feel free to ask me to test some stuff, since I have everything setup
2749. # [21:14] <@khuey> hopefully I can write a patch for the about:memory thing today
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2755. # [21:15] <Ms2ger> khuey, s/1.2/b2g/
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2757. # [21:16] <billm> ochameau: ok, thanks. could you maybe see if the patch I just posted fixes the issue?
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2760. # [21:18] <billm> ochameau: actually, never mind, the patch has a problem
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2762. # [21:19] <Ms2ger> gaston, do you also run tests, btw?
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2764. # [21:19] <ochameau> billm: note that we already worked around that exception, so there isn't a rush to backout. I would just like to figure out why everthing is so special on b2g.
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2768. # [21:20] <gaston> Ms2ger: no, enotime, enohw
2769. # [21:20] <gaston> Ms2ger: well sometimes jsapi-tests to make sure js engine is still "working" on ppc & sparc64
2770. # [21:20] <Ms2ger> gaston, no big deal if they use multiprocessing, then?
2771. # [21:20] <billm> ochameau: yeah, me too. I'll see if I can come up with a diagnostic patch.
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2773. # [21:20] <gaston> Ms2ger: i see what you did there
2774. # [21:21] <Ms2ger> gaston, I mean, it's not worth spending much time avoiding it if you're not running them anyway
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2776. # [21:21] <gaston> Ms2ger: anyway, we're supposed to have a working s?m_open now so our python should be ""sooon"" fixed to have multiprocessing working
2777. # [21:21] <gaston> Ms2ger: so dont bother too much
2778. # [21:22] <Ms2ger> gaston, ok, thanks
2779. # [21:22] <ochameau> billm: I think you can easily reproduce this issue create a test jsm like this: "this.EXPORTED_SYMBOLS=[];" (It will complain that EXPORTED_SYMBOLS isn't an array, whereas on desktop, or when imported from something else than a frame script, it will work fine.
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2781. # [21:23] <ochameau> billm: ideally, I'd be really happy to also know why we have to do bind EXPORTED_SYMBOLS on "this" on b2g... (instead of just doing "let EXPORTED_SYMBOLS=[]"
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2784. # [21:24] <billm> ochameau: ahh. that's very interesting!
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2786. # [21:27] <ejpbruel> bz: ping
2787. # [21:28] <@smaug> ehsan: ahaa, this one pb test seems to have both the common issues
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2789. # [21:29] <@smaug> no wonder I didn't figure out the failure immediately
2790. # [21:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/53889e96edd9 - Irving Reid - Bug 941752: Fix misspelled attribute name and undefined property warning; r=Mossop a=lsblakk
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2858. # [21:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/785367572218 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 950203 - Let GfxInfo on Android create its own GL context to get GL strings, instead of waiting on the compositor's - r=jrmuizel
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2860. # [21:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b93e082f00dc - Benoit Jacob - Bug 950203 - Correctly handle EGL_NO_SURFACE result from eglCreateWindowSurface - r=kats
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2874. # [21:57] <@bsmedberg> bent: fabrice: khuey|away: FWIW when I build with -j1 the build appears to finish correctly
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2879. # [21:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: bustage
2880. # [21:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/b2g/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-win32_gecko/1387397113/
2881. # [21:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gah
2882. # [21:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32174614&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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2888. # [22:02] <mbrubeck> whoa, did bsmedberg really just improve Windows performance across the board on mozilla-beta?
2889. # [22:02] <fabrice> bsmedberg: it worked for me after clobbering both out/ and objdir-gecko
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2901. # [22:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ea2f91a2994 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset fc0610680d3b (bug 950856) for Windows bustage.
2902. # [22:05] <gaston> Ms2ger: actually, we have a working multiprocessing.synchronize module in our python since some weeks :)
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2904. # [22:07] <mbrubeck> Yup, looks like bsmedberg's bug 946877 caused significant Talos improvements in Win PGO when it landed on inbound too.
2905. # [22:07] <mbrubeck> bsmedberg: Was that expected?
2906. # [22:07] <jmaher> bsmedberg++ for the talos improvements
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2912. # [22:08] <dholbert> RyanVM|sheriffduty / ehsan: can I push a DONTBUILD on the closed tree? (tweak to metadata in a test)
2913. # [22:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> oh, let me reopen
2914. # [22:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sorry, got distracted
2915. # [22:09] <dholbert> ah, thanks
2916. # [22:10] <AutomatedTester> lsblakk: hey, just noticed the year on https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases#Based_on_Gecko_27 is 2013... we might want to change that :D
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2918. # [22:10] <Hixie> is there a way in firefox to find out what ARIA role is being exposed for an element?
2919. # [22:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b526dae1a89 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 946835 followup: drop <link> tags that the w3c test harness doesn't like in reference cases. (test-metadata-only, no review, DONTBUILD)
2920. # [22:10] <gaston> Ms2ger: what was the bug number for multiprocessing intests ?
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2923. # [22:12] <grobinson|laptop> Anybody know how, given an nsIRequest/nsIChannel, to determine if it was created for an nsIXMLHttpRequest?
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2934. # [22:17] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: apologies :(
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2937. # [22:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> man, OSX has gotten way more prone to shutdown timeouts lately
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2966. # [22:33] <@smaug> ehsan: pong
2967. # [22:33] <@smaug> er, ping
2968. # [22:33] <@ehsan> smaug: ping
2969. # [22:33] <@ehsan> er, pong :D
2970. # [22:33] <@smaug> ehsan: about Bug 462106 and its test
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2972. # [22:33] <@ehsan> yes?
2973. # [22:34] <@smaug> it has setTimeout(function() { // without this, the test fails sporadically
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2975. # [22:34] <@smaug> so you recall why exactly
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2981. # [22:35] <@bsmedberg> mbrubeck: huh, removing nsDebugImpl.cpp from PGO improved perf?
2982. # [22:35] <@ehsan> hmm
2983. # [22:35] <@bsmedberg> that's totally unexpected
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2987. # [22:35] <@ehsan> smaug: I think what I wanted there was SimpleTest.waitForClipboard() which did not exist back then!
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2989. # [22:36] <@smaug> ehsan: well, these days the test uses both http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/tests/test_bug462106_perwindow.xul#98 :)
2990. # [22:36] <@smaug> ehsan: but do you recall why that timeout was needed there?
2991. # [22:37] <mbrubeck> bsmedberg: Yeah!
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2993. # [22:37] <@ehsan> smaug: it probably uses it instead of waitForClipboard like I said :)
2994. # [22:37] <@ehsan> you should be able to replace it with waitForClipbaord
2995. # [22:37] <@ehsan> test on Linux because that's where the clipboard is actually async iirc
2996. # [22:38] <@smaug> oops, you said SimpleTest.waitForClipboard :)
2997. # [22:38] <mbrubeck> bsmedberg: It was a Windows PGO-only improvement, so we didn't really notice when it happened on inbound (because it was just one of several changesets that landed between PGO builds).
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2999. # [22:38] <@smaug> I just skipped the stuff after .
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3001. # [22:38] <mbrubeck> but on beta I guess we do PGO for every build
3002. # [22:38] <@ehsan> hehe
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3004. # [22:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: still hitting a good number of oranges?
3005. # [22:39] <@bsmedberg> mbrubeck: good to know, and I wonder if that means we should exclude other files with known-cold code...
3006. # [22:39] <@bsmedberg> oh well
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3009. # [22:39] <@smaug> RyanVM|sheriffduty: still some random stuff
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3011. # [22:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ffa3ee54b05d - Hannes Verschore - Bug 939614: IonMonkey: Enable reschedule same optimizationLevel if osrPc is different, r=jandem
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3013. # [22:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc976490826a - Hannes Verschore - Bug 939614: IonMonkey: Split IonOptions in IonOptions and IonOptimizations, r=jandem
3014. # [22:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a07338ae5d7 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 939614: IonMonkey: Rename IonOption to JitOption, r=jandem
3015. # [22:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/69d3c247ed2e - Brian Hackett - Bug 939614: IonMonkey: Fix trying to enter at wrong pc, r=jandem
3016. # [22:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab687d29b5fa - Hannes Verschore - Bug 939614: IonMonkey: Add recompile check, r=jandem
3017. # [22:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9cf1b4d6bd4 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 939614: IonMonkey: Properly spew recompiling instead of analyzing, r=jandem
3018. # [22:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07ae65134c5c - Hannes Verschore - Bug 939614: IonMonkey: Invalidate earlier and don't recompile when ionmonkey is disabled, r=jandem
3019. # [22:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/754b2bd15023 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 939614: IonMonkey: Use logic in UsesBeforeCompile to get actual needed usecount, r=jandem
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3022. # [22:42] <firebot> Check-in:
3023. # [22:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7fffd9bfa49 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 951843: Fix some flexbox-items-as-stacking-contexts-* reftests to link to a subsection of flexbox spec, & clarify the reftest titles. test-metadata-only, DONTBUILD
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3026. # [22:43] <@smaug> ehsan: ah, ok, that is just using setTimeout few times
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3028. # [22:43] <@smaug> I could just use setTimeout
3029. # [22:43] <@smaug> that would be easier
3030. # [22:44] <@ehsan> no
3031. # [22:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: setTimeout in tests makes me all sadface :(
3032. # [22:44] <@ehsan> smaug: it actually polls the clipboard
3033. # [22:44] <@ehsan> to make sure the thing is on there
3034. # [22:44] <@ehsan> and then it calls your callback
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3036. # [22:45] <@smaug> ehsan: setTimeout(function() { return wait(validatorFn, successFn, failureFn, flavor); }, 100);
3037. # [22:46] <@ehsan> smaug: see wait
3038. # [22:47] <@smaug> yes?
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3041. # [22:47] <@smaug> it runs timeout, checks the data, if it is not what wanted, runs timeout
3042. # [22:49] <ttaubert> "there is no right event or we have no idea what event to wait for"
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3044. # [22:49] <@ehsan> smaug: right, which means it actually waits until the data is on the clipboard!
3045. # [22:49] <@smaug> yes?
3046. # [22:50] <@smaug> that is what a normal setTimeout loop does
3047. # [22:50] <@smaug> easier to modify this test to use setTimeout until the right value is there
3048. # [22:50] <@smaug> than to use that method
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3052. # [22:52] <@bsmedberg> mbrubeck: 5-10% !?! what the holy hell
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3057. # [22:55] <AutomatedTester> smaug: hey, I am reading http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/editing.html#focus and had a question about focus events when the browser doesnt have system focus. I have a scenario, mainly using Marionette, where when I type and the browser doesnt have system focus I dont get the focus event being fired but reading the spec it should be fired.
3058. # [22:55] <mbrubeck> heh
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3060. # [22:55] <AutomatedTester> smaug: Is that a bug on our side or am I misreading the spec
3061. # [22:55] <mbrubeck> bsmedberg: If someone has the time and expertise, it might be worth looking at profiles or generated code to see what the hell happened.
3062. # [22:56] <@bsmedberg> I've got people for that, actually!
3063. # [22:57] <@khuey> dmajor is going to have fun
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3065. # [22:57] <@smaug> AutomatedTester: I wouldn't exactly trust the spec to have correct focus handling
3066. # [22:58] <@smaug> nor that any browser has "correct" focus handling either
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3068. # [22:58] <@smaug> AutomatedTester: but, Enn knows more about focus handling
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3070. # [23:00] <@smaug> AutomatedTester: but didn't we add the mode for marionette
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3072. # [23:01] <@smaug> where focusmanager doesn't care about the system focus
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3074. # [23:01] <@smaug> focusmanager.testmode
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3076. # [23:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1218829391b2 - Alexander Surkov - Bug 945435 - Firefox changed the way it handled role=presentation breaking ATs, r=tbsaunde
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3078. # [23:02] <AutomatedTester> smaug: ahh yes, let me add that pref
3079. # [23:02] <AutomatedTester> I dont think its a default pref
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3081. # [23:02] <@smaug> certainly not in Firefox
3082. # [23:03] <@smaug> since it breaks normal focus handling
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3087. # [23:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c5539b5b8f5 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 951666 - Rename IonCode to JitCode. r=njn
3088. # [23:06] * gaye is now known as gaye|brb
3089. # [23:06] <@dbaron> crap, lost the push race, and then the tree was closed
3090. # [23:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/119235b9eb24 - tbirdbld - Added THUNDERBIRD_27_0b1_RELEASE THUNDERBIRD_27_0b1_BUILD2 tag(s) for changeset cc152efdefa3. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
3091. # [23:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/cc152efdefa3 - tbirdbld - Automated checkin: version bump for thunderbird 27.0b1 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
3092. # [23:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dbaron: backing out now
3093. # [23:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> will reopen soon
3094. # [23:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dbaron: open
3095. # [23:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/343f2a3934ef - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset e4d49705cdfe (bug 951573) for suspected Win7 debug xpcshell orange.
3096. # [23:09] <@smaug> tn: too bad testing these windows-only failures takes hours on try :(
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3098. # [23:09] <mjrosenb> wait, beta is closed?
3099. # [23:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mjrosenb: huh?
3100. # [23:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> looks open to me
3101. # [23:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mjrosenb: ^ btw
3102. # [23:10] <KWierso> mjrosenb: they add to the commit messages that to get around any closures
3103. # [23:11] <@dbaron> RyanVM|sheriffduty, thanks... open, but not responding
3104. # [23:11] <@dbaron> (https works, but ssh doesn't)
3105. # [23:11] <mjrosenb> KWierso: ahh.
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3108. # [23:11] <@dbaron> RyanVM|sheriffduty, oh, works now
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3110. # [23:11] <firebot> Check-in:
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3112. # [23:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ad5fff4d45c0 - L. David Baron - Bug 782610 followup: Add a version of css-supports-027 that does not use @-moz-document. (We already have css-supports-026 to pair with css-supports-028.)
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3118. # [23:13] <lsblakk> milan_: do you have the hardware to check bug bug, as well as ordering, just to get the discussion
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3120. # [23:13] <lsblakk> ignore that paste...
3121. # [23:13] <lsblakk> bug 951422
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3124. # [23:14] <milan_> lsblakk: yes, we have a frankenstein machine next to my desk that reproduces this problem
3125. # [23:14] <lsblakk> awesome
3126. # [23:14] <lsblakk> if we can confirm it today we can get it into production in time afaik
3127. # [23:14] <milan_> lsblakk: the driver in bug 951422 does fix it. the issue we had when we fixed this the first time is that there are multiple, discontinuous ranges of drivers that exhibit the problem
3128. # [23:15] <milan_> lsblakk: all confirmed
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3132. # [23:16] <milan_> lsblakk: just updated the bug
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3134. # [23:17] <milan_> lsblakk: actually, i take that back - you wanted us to test the blocklist - we'll do that now
3135. # [23:18] <Ms2ger> gaston, 945222
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3138. # [23:18] <NeilAway> ochameau: isn't that compartment sharing?
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3141. # [23:20] <lsblakk> milan_: yes, thank you
3142. # [23:20] <gaston> Ms2ger: thx
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3144. # [23:21] <NeilAway> Hixie: I think DOM Inspector lets you examine the accessibility tree, if that's any use
3145. # [23:21] <milan_> lsblakk: to be sure, the list to test is on staging - addons-dev.allizom.org, right?
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3148. # [23:22] <lsblakk> milan_: yes
3149. # [23:23] <reuben> have we changed something related to font rendering recently? possibly something specific to OS X
3150. # [23:24] <reuben> at some point in the last week all fonts started looking absolutely gorgeous on my retina mbp
3151. # [23:24] <reuben> sometimes I re-read stuff just to appreciate it :P
3152. # [23:24] <nthomas> reuben: bug 941095
3153. # [23:24] * catlee-lunch is now known as catlee
3154. # [23:24] <nthomas> heh
3155. # [23:24] <Hixie> NeilAway: thanks, will check that
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3157. # [23:25] <reuben> nthomas: hah, awesome
3158. # [23:25] <reuben> BenWa++
3159. # [23:25] <milan_> lsblakk: confirmed, now for real. magic. i'll update the bug.
3160. # [23:26] <lsblakk> excellent
3161. # [23:26] <BenWa> reuben: Well most people wont agree with you there :P
3162. # [23:26] <BenWa> reuben: We may likely tweak it before it ships
3163. # [23:26] <BenWa> reuben: if you like that better you may want to turn off font smoothing
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3171. # [23:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50c8f77c74c2 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 950545 (part 1) - Fix the dump numbering in the DMD test. r=iacobcatalin.
3172. # [23:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9db8c2398cc7 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 950545 (part 2) - Fix assertion failures and output mismatches in the DMD test. r=iacobcatalin.
3173. # [23:30] <Hixie> NeilAway: any idea how i make there be one?
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3176. # [23:31] <reuben> BenWa: hmm, true, I guess I just like lighter fonts. thanks for the tip, I disabled font smoothing
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3178. # [23:32] <@njn> if you want to know if X is possible, there's no better way to find out that loudly say "X isn't possible"
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3180. # [23:32] <@njn> s/that/than/
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3182. # [23:32] * @njn cries Crocodile Tears for BitKeeper
3183. # [23:32] <Ms2ger> njn, and if you want a pointer to previous discussion about something, you should proclaim "This has never been discussed before"
3184. # [23:32] <@njn> Ms2ger: :)
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3190. # [23:35] <NeilAway> Hixie: view - show accessible nodes?
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3192. # [23:36] <Hixie> NeilAway: oh by DOM Inspector you mean the separate add-on, not the thing that ships with the Firefox build?
3193. # [23:36] <NeilAway> Hixie: yes, I do, sorry
3194. # [23:36] <Hixie> ah ok
3195. # [23:36] <Hixie> thanks
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3217. # [23:52] <heycam> anybody else doing builds on OSX and noticed that they don't use the normal font or maybe font size?
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3219. # [23:52] <heycam> tried with a new profile, same thing. very strange.
3220. # [23:52] <nrc> heycam: scroll up ^^^ bug 941095
3221. # [23:52] <tn> heycam: yeah, theres a bug on file
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3223. # [23:53] <heycam> oh cool, thanks nrc & tn
3224. # [23:53] <tn> smaug: isnt it like super late where you are?
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3226. # [23:53] <heycam> I've noticed it for weeks
3227. # [23:53] <heycam> funny that the only time I mention it here is on the same day someone else mentions it
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3229. # [23:53] <tn> heycam, different bug from what nrc mentioned
3230. # [23:54] <billm> bsmedberg: ping
3231. # [23:54] <@bsmedberg> billm: pong
3232. # [23:54] <heycam> tn, oh
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3235. # [23:54] <heycam> tn, but there is a separate bug for the wrong font or font size?
3236. # [23:55] <tn> heycam, if you've noticed it for weeks, then yes, its a different bug, and i dont have the number handy
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3238. # [23:55] <billm> bsmedberg: I've been having a problem with tbpl timeouts in MacOS content processes. I think I've isolated the problem to here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/xre/nsEmbedFunctions.cpp#635
3239. # [23:55] <heycam> tn, ok, nm as long as it's tracked
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3241. # [23:56] <billm> bsmedberg: we're processing a bunch of messages before we actually start the main event loop. the problem I'm seeing is that we call nsAppShell::Exit during the preprocessing, and nsAppShell::Run still runs after that
3242. # [23:56] <tn> heycam: 931426 or 931040
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3244. # [23:56] <billm> bsmedberg: there aren't any checks in Run() to see if Exit() has already been called, so we just sit there forever, never exiting
3245. # [23:56] <@bsmedberg> billm: I really don't know my way around that at all.
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3247. # [23:56] <billm> bsmedberg: oh, ok. do you know someone who does?
3248. # [23:56] <tn> heycam: if those don't cover what you see then it might not be tracked
3249. # [23:56] <@bsmedberg> well, check blame
3250. # [23:57] <@bsmedberg> and after that, probably bent and smichaud
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3252. # [23:57] <billm> bsmedberg: it's cjones. I guess I'll ask bent. thanks.
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3254. # [23:57] <billm> bent: ping
3255. # [23:57] <@bsmedberg> billm: hrm, if it's cjones...
3256. # [23:58] <@bsmedberg> billm: why would we be calling nsAppShell::Exit?
3257. # [23:58] <heycam> tn, I think it might well be those bugs
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3259. # [23:58] <billm> bsmedberg: it happens via XRE_ShutdownChildProcess
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3261. # [23:58] <@bsmedberg> billm: huh, something sounds fishy about that
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3264. # [23:59] <billm> bsmedberg: the code that calls Exit from XRE_ShutdownChildProcess is also Mac-specific
3265. # [23:59] <billm> bsmedberg: though actually, I'm not sure what prevents this on other platforms...
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