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# [00:05] <KWierso> blassey: ping
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# [00:16] <KWierso> Waldo: uh oh
# [00:17] * Waldo looks
# [00:17] <KWierso> Waldo: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1&rev=03d86cd05b7e still seeing this error
# [00:17] <Waldo> oh, bleh
# [00:18] <Waldo> whackamole
# [00:18] <Waldo> another simple fix, of course
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# [00:20] <Waldo> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=json.parse%3A+&find=&findi=&;filter=^[^\0]*%24&hitlimit=&tree=mozilla-central suggests that file's the light at the end of the tunnel, tho
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# [00:21] <@njn> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=4edf689f66bd&showall=1 -- "Stale file handle: '/repo/hg/mozilla/try/.hg/store/phaseroots'!" ?
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# [00:22] <KWierso> Waldo: shipit
# [00:22] <Waldo> yup, doing so real soon now
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# [00:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be7c246b13b7 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 950564 ComplexTextInputPanel should be positioned to bottom-left of the focused plugin feedback=emk, r=smichaud
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# [00:26] <tbsaunde> ehsan: so HTMLInputElement->IsEditable() seems to be false expected?
# [00:26] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: if it's outside of a contenteditable section, yes
# [00:26] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: IsEditable() talks about wether the element itself can be edited
# [00:27] <tbsaunde> ehsan: ok, so then I need to check IsEditable() or nsITextControlElement
# [00:27] <@ehsan> for example, it will be true in the anonymous div inside the input element
# [00:27] <@ehsan> yeah I think so
# [00:27] <tbsaunde> ah ok
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# [00:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4f768d165672 - Richard Newman - Merge m-c to s-c.
# [00:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e8c4daf4f84b - Richard Newman - Bug 947772 - Follow-up: fix sneaky test (disabled on some platforms). r=me
# [00:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/78f2c5e0b9fb - Richard Newman - Merge m-c to s-c.
# [00:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ad12a958aa02 - Richard Newman - Bug 947772 - Sync adds tracker observers regardless of engine enabled state. r=gps
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# [00:31] <Waldo> KWierso: okay, I think it should be good now, this checks out locally in a one-test run
# [00:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb7c93c9b1c4 - Jeff Walden - Update debugger tests for new JSON.parse syntax error message format. Followup to bug 507998, r=yetmoreorangesigh
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# [00:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29516a7c4545 - Byron Campen [:bwc] - Bug 942950: Avoid calling done_cb in the wrong order, or multiple times. r=ekr,abr
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# [00:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48a4eaba1894 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 946273 part 2: Add reftest for box-sizing on flex items with "flex-basis" set, instead of "width". r=mats
# [00:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ed07b8d7939 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 946273 part 3: Add reftests for box-sizing on vertical flex container and on flex items in vertical container. r=mats
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# [00:42] <seth> loading 9% =(
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# [00:45] <mbrubeck> ehsan: I think consistent coding style is just a western bias. ;)
# [00:45] <@ehsan> mbrubeck: boo!
# [00:45] <gps> mbrubeck++
# [00:45] * @ehsan should start to incorporate some eastern traditions in his work at mozilla
# [00:46] <gps> inconsistent coding style mode: keep it
# [00:46] <@ehsan> here, I'm gonna start by putting a poem below every vim modeline in our tree :P
# [00:46] <mbrubeck> +1
# [00:46] * abr ponders applying feng shui to code...
# [00:46] <tbsaunde> that'd atleast be more interesting than license boilerplate ;p
# [00:46] <mbrubeck> (oh, those are vim modelines? I thought they *were* poems...)
# [00:46] <@ehsan> I may add some good ol' mysticism here and there as well
# [00:47] <@ehsan> mbrubeck: emacs is a western bias, beware!
# [00:47] <@ehsan> abr: please do!
# [00:47] <abr> "Oh, this function really needs to be facing East to promote positive energy through these code blocks over here."
# [00:47] <@ehsan> multicultural coding ftw!
# [00:47] <@ehsan> abr++
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# [00:49] <nmatsakis> question: is there a process that someone needs to go through just so I can push a patch they wrote? i.e., do they have to sign something for copyright reasons?
# [00:49] <nmatsakis> (the person in question is an intel intern working on bug 946042)
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# [00:50] <@ehsan> yes
# [00:50] <nmatsakis> what is that process? is it http://www.mozilla.org/hacking/commit-access-policy/ ?
# [00:50] <nmatsakis> that sounds like it applies only to getting "push" access, but maybe you must have level 1 just to have code in the tree at all?
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# [00:51] <@ehsan> nmatsakis: oh if the person doesn't want push access, then all they need is an r+
# [00:51] <nmatsakis> ok
# [00:51] <nmatsakis> thanks
# [00:51] <@ehsan> they will hold the copyright to their contribution iirc
# [00:52] <gps> nmatsakis: read section 4 at https://www.mozilla.org/hacking/committer/committers-agreement.pdf
# [00:52] <nmatsakis> gps: ah thakn you
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# [00:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/abdeb55e8a16 - Ivan Jibaja - Bug 946042 - Add all SIMD functions to the interpreter. r=till
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# [01:11] <glandium> abr: east is west from where i am
# [01:11] <glandium> oh feng shui east
# [01:12] <glandium> i thought that was following ehsan's proposal
# [01:12] <glandium> so here's a good one: dell's site doesn't want aurora users to buy their products
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# [01:13] <@ehsan> glandium: well, the west keeps telling me that I come from the "middle easy
# [01:13] <@ehsan> *east
# [01:13] <@ehsan> and if that's "middle" east, I don't know what that makes Japan ;)
# [01:14] <@ehsan> perhaps far far far far east? ;)
# [01:14] <glandium> ehsan: sure, but from japan, middle east is middle west
# [01:14] <glandium> or far far east
# [01:14] <@ehsan> haha that's true
# [01:14] * @ehsan will refer to himself as middle-western from now on
# [01:14] <glandium> :)
# [01:15] <@ehsan> I look forward to see the confusion in people's faces ;)
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# [01:18] <glandium> mmm so it's not an aurora thing, it's a 28 thing
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# [01:27] <glandium> can someone go on http://tinyurl.com/ohpdlwg with aurora or nightly and tell me if they get a menu on the left with configurations, feature&design, etc.
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# [01:30] <mbrubeck> glandium: broken for me in Aurora
# [01:30] <glandium> mbrubeck: what os?
# [01:31] <mbrubeck> Win8.1
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# [01:31] <glandium> ok, so this is not a linux thing
# [01:31] <jcranmer|away> glandium: I do not on my Debian x86-64 self-built recent-ish nightly
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# [01:31] <glandium> (since there was a webgl related message in the console, i was wondering)
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# [01:32] <billm> jduell: ping
# [01:32] <billm> briansmith: ping
# [01:32] <briansmith> billm: pong
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# [01:33] <billm> briansmith: hey, do you know what the current state of http-on-modify-request is in e10s? does it fire in the parent, or not at all?
# [01:33] <ejpbruel> bholley: ping
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# [01:33] <bholley> ejpbruel: hi
# [01:33] <briansmith> billm: I believe that it fires in the parent. I am unsure if it was changed to also fire in the child
# [01:33] <ejpbruel> bholley: so i actually have patches already :)
# [01:34] <ejpbruel> bholley: which is why I'd like to resolve this issue
# [01:34] <briansmith> jduell would probably know better than me
# [01:34] <billm> briansmith: does http-on-examine-response work the same way?
# [01:34] <bholley> ejpbruel: I'm just saying we should resolve it at review time
# [01:34] <briansmith> it isn't clear that they all work consistently
# [01:34] <bholley> ejpbruel: rather than discussing a patch over email
# [01:34] <briansmith> I wouldn't expect any consistency yet
# [01:34] <billm> briansmith: ok, thanks. I'll try and see what happens.
# [01:34] <glandium> oh mozregression does push-level tracking now !
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# [01:34] <ejpbruel> bholley: ok. in that case i will just leave my current approach, which is to override the principal to system
# [01:34] <bholley> ejpbruel: also, I'm unlikely to be able to review the patch until after the break, so I don't really feel like paging it in right now ;-)
# [01:34] <bholley> ejpbruel: sure
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# [01:35] <bholley> ejpbruel: just flag me for either review or feedback whenever it goes up and I'll see if it looks problematic
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# [01:35] <ejpbruel> bholley: alright, will do. i can actually continue with the other feedback you've given me, so thanks for your time :)
# [01:35] <bholley> :-)
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# [01:37] <glandium> weird coincidence: the last good nightly doesn't have australis, the first bad one has
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# [01:41] <jduell> billm: we have the lines that fire on-modify-request commented out. But if there's a good reason we could add them
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# [01:41] <billm> jduell: I saw they were commented out in the child. do they still fire in the parent?
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# [01:41] <jduell> billm: yes. We'd break a million add-ons if we changed that :)
# [01:42] <billm> jduell: and that's true for all the http-on-* stuff?
# [01:42] <jduell> billm: yes
# [01:42] <jduell> all work on parent, all disabled (or not yet implemented) on child
# [01:43] <billm> jduell: what sort of content data is normally exposed to these listeners? can they get access to DOM nodes?
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# [01:44] <fabrice> no, they get access to the http request (useful to tweak headers)
# [01:44] <billm> so what advantage would there be to running them in the child? any?
# [01:45] <jduell> billm: fabrice: you can get the Browser from them--not sure if that gets you the DOM stuff you want
# [01:45] <jduell> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/Code_snippets/Tabbed_browser?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Code_snippets/Tabbed_browser#Getting_the_browser_that_fires_the_http-on-modify-request_notification
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# [01:45] <fabrice> jduell: ha yes, you're right. I even used that once...
# [01:45] <jduell> billm: the only advantage to running them in the child is that they're a hook that some code might need
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# [01:46] <jduell> but so far we haven't needed them
# [01:47] <billm> jduell: do you know if desktop add-ons use this notificationCallbacks feature much?
# [01:47] <jduell> billm: let's see what https://mxr.mozilla.org/addons/ tells me...
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# [01:49] <billm> jduell: well, I just noticed that HTTPS-everywhere, the one I'm looking at now, uses it. so probably at least a few :-(
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# [01:50] <jduell> billm: yeah, the addons mxr is showing me "Too many hits, displaying the first 1000" :)
# [01:50] <billm> jduell: ok. thanks for the help.
# [01:50] <jduell> billm: sure
# [01:51] <fabrice> jduell: > 1000 hits for http-on- ?
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# [01:51] <jduell> fabrice: for channel.notificationCallbacks = { ... }
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# [01:51] <jduell> https://mxr.mozilla.org/addons/search?string=notificationCallbacks&find=&findi=&;filter=^[^\0]*$&hitlimit=&tree=addons
# [01:52] <glandium> oh man, no wonder this is taking ages... mozregression is going through every single directory under http://inbound-archive.pub.build.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-linux64
# [01:52] <glandium> we really need a quick way to map changesets to builds
# [01:54] <glandium> gps: isn't that what you were talking about the other day? ^
# [01:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e2c930a960c - Matthew Gregan - Bug 948269 - Split MediaDecoderStateMachine::AudioLoop out into new AudioSink class. r=cpearce
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# [01:58] <nthomas> what would that do ? Take a job name and revision and return a url to the bits ?
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# [01:59] <@smaug> oh, nice, the tmp profiles we create when running mochitest have taken several gigs from /tmp
# [01:59] <glandium> nthomas: something like that
# [02:00] <glandium> yay, and now mozregression failed on a HTTP Error 504: Gateway Timeout
# [02:00] <nthomas> that's odd, there's no proxy in that system
# [02:00] <glandium> which means it needs to start over
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# [02:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1035869d1819 - Brian Hackett - Land bug 950452. r=jandem
# [02:01] <nthomas> hmm, I guess there's an AWS load balancer
# [02:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ceaf23d693f - Terrence Cole - Bug 952344 - Allow AutoAssertNoGC to be used safely off-thread; r=sfink
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# [02:34] <glandium> finally got my regression window
# [02:34] <glandium> and the winner is 932322
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# [02:39] <@smaug> glandium: what kind of regression?
# [02:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/73c93e4a4d30 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 631842 (part 2b) - Fix a mis-handling of platform-specific suppression files in |mach valgrind-test|. r=me.
# [02:41] <glandium> smaug: bug 952365
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# [02:44] <@smaug> Gi tests are something not enabled on m-i?
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# [02:45] <fabrice> smaug: they are hidden I think, until they are fixed
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# [02:45] <@smaug> fabrice: ok. I just saw such on try, failing, and got worried
# [02:45] <@smaug> but ok, if they are failing anyway
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# [02:46] <fabrice> smaug: yep, you can ignore them on try for now
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# [02:50] <gps> glandium: I could probably do that with the db I'll create :D
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# [03:08] <glandium> so, when you add a comment on service-now, you hit save or update?
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# [03:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca675cefb7e4 - Bobby Holley - Bug 950909 - Forward native aggregation to the root XPCWrappedJS. r=mccr8,sr=smaug
# [03:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c11565395751 - Bobby Holley - Bug 950909 - Tests. r=smaug
# [03:12] <felipe> glandium: yes
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# [03:13] <glandium> felipe: the question was which one. but save worked
# [03:13] <glandium> i wonder what update does
# [03:13] <@njn> "instead of bikeshedding the central style guide, we just do our own thing in the code we're responsible for."
# [03:13] <@smaug> tn: ok, on try the log gets too big
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# [03:13] <felipe> glandium: i know, just joking
# [03:14] <felipe> :)
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# [03:33] <ewong> so for any product's build config issues, reviews should go to any build config peer or specifically to gps/glandium only?
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# [03:33] <glandium> ewong: depends what product and what issues
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# [03:34] <ewong> venkman, chatzilla and inspector
# [03:34] <ewong> glandium: ^
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# [03:35] <glandium> ewong: for issues related to recent changes to the build system on m-c, yes, gps or me
# [03:35] <ewong> hmm well it is related.. kinda..
# [03:35] <glandium> anything else can go to module owners
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# [03:36] <ewong> ok thanks glandium!
# [03:36] <glandium> ewong: JAR_MANIFESTS ?
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# [03:36] <ewong> glandium: yup
# [03:36] <glandium> ewong: i saw a bug for inspector
# [03:37] <ewong> bug 952120 seems to be for all 3..
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# [03:37] <glandium> ah the patch was for inspector
# [03:38] <ewong> right
# [03:40] <ewong> glandium: in moz.build what is the DIRS for?
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# [03:41] <glandium> ewong: to make the build system traverse the subdirectories
# [03:41] <glandium> but locales are different
# [03:42] <ewong> so I don't need to put locales in DIRS ?
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# [03:42] <glandium> no
# [03:43] <ewong> ok..
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# [03:46] <@njn> gps: ping?
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# [03:47] <ewong> glandium when I add a new moz.build file, what do I need to do in order to get the build system to recognize its existence?
# [03:48] <glandium> ewong: add the directory it is in in DIRS in the parent directory
# [03:48] <glandium> ewong: but if you're still talking about that bug, you don't want to add a moz.build
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# [03:50] <ewong> but I get : e:\mozstuff\mozprgs\smdb\mozilla\config\rules.mk:1327:0:e:/mozstuff/mozprgs/smdb/mozilla/extensions/venkman/locales contains a jar.mn file but this file is not declared in a JAR_MANIFESTS variable in a moz.build file
# [03:50] <ckitching> Does tbpl always use a fresh objdir for build jobs, or does it recycle the objdir from a previous build (sometimes)?
# [03:50] <glandium> ewong: did you read gps's comment?
# [03:51] <ckitching> Ordinarily this shouldn't matter... But for my bug it does. :P
# [03:51] <ewong> glandium: yes.
# [03:51] <Waldo> njn: really, wasn't the style bit there about the absolute smallest part of my comments?
# [03:51] <glandium> ewong: did you add EXTERNALLY_MANAGED_MAKE_FILE = 1 to resources/locale/Makefile.in?
# [03:52] <glandium> and JAR_MANIFEST
# [03:52] <ewong> glandium I realized I was adding that line to the wrong file..
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# [04:07] <yeukhon> is there a limit to how many patches i can submit to try in a single job?
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# [04:08] <ewong> glandium: is there a particular position I need to put EXTERNALLY_MANAGED_MAKE_FILE = 1? or can I put it anywhere in the Makefile.in?
# [04:09] <yeukhon> im only able to see five https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=3687391d412d what is the reason?
# [04:09] <glandium> yeukhon: time
# [04:09] <yeukhon> glandium: huh?
# [04:09] <yeukhon> i mean 4
# [04:09] <ckitching> yeukhon: It only shows the new changesets.
# [04:09] <glandium> yeukhon: if you push 100000 changesets, it's going to take time
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# [04:09] <glandium> ewong: it needs to go before config.mk or rules.mk
# [04:09] <ckitching> So if you push a bunch of patches, then change one and repush it only shows the changed one. (Assuming it was the top one)
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# [04:12] <yeukhon> ckitching: so my own tree already got the lowest patch because i have done a try on it before and the ordering of these patches now changed (but the lowest one remains unchange) so thats why it won't show up?
# [04:12] <ckitching> yeukhon: Exactly. It's still running the job with all the patches applied.
# [04:12] <ckitching> But just not listing all the uninteresting ones.
# [04:12] <ckitching> So don't panic.
# [04:12] <yeukhon> okay thanks
# [04:13] <ckitching> Well, no more than the usual ongoing reasons for panic.
# [04:13] <yeukhon> :(
# [04:13] <ckitching> But exhibit no net gain of panic. :P
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# [04:13] <yeukhon> ah right i should have checked the parent
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# [04:17] <mwu> masayuki: do you have any b2g devices?
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# [04:18] <mwu> I think you can test on a nexus device with a usb otg cable. and hopefully we can start releasing builds soon
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# [04:22] <ewong> glandium: I added that EXTERNAL... to resources/Makefile.in, but I get e:\mozstuff\mozprgs\smdb\mozilla\config\rules.mk:1327:0:e:/mozstuff/mozprgs/smdb/mozilla/extensions/venkman/resources contains a jar.mn file but this file is not declared in a JAR_MANIFESTS variable in a moz.build file with the given patch: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3814380
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# [04:23] <glandium> ewong: ok, start again from scratch. What is the original error?
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# [04:26] <ewong> glandium: without my patches, I get : https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3814381
# [04:26] <ewong> s/patches/patch/
# [04:26] <glandium> ewong: so, you need JAR_MANIFESTS in resources/moz.build. What comes next?
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# [04:31] <ewong> glandium: I add the JAR_MANIFESTS to moz.build in resources/... and it seems to be building
# [04:31] <ewong> but I thought gps mentioned that I didn't need it..
# [04:32] <ewong> oh..wait..that's locales nvm
# [04:32] <glandium> ewong: that was for resources/locales, for inspector
# [04:32] <glandium> venkman is probably different
# [04:34] <ewong> glandium: so if I have this venkman patch.. I should ask venkman module peers for review or build config peers or both?
# [04:34] <glandium> ewong: either, really
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# [04:37] <ewong> ok..thanks glandium for your time!
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# [05:19] <nigelb> bah, something seems to have broken in my nightly.
# [05:19] <nigelb> It seems to think there's an update and it needs to restart all the time.
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# [05:24] <nthomas> perhaps the update is failing to apply
# [05:24] <nthomas> what does updates/last-update.log say ?
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# [05:56] <nigelb> nthomas: does this look important? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3814954
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# [07:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning
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# [08:03] <rcampbelllaos> Anyone on who is familiar with line and word breaking code in gecko? I'm a beginner trying to swim in a pond a little too deep for myself ;)
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# [08:08] <nthomas> nigelb: looks pretty normal and successful
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# [08:09] <nigelb> nthomas: I just downloaded the latest nightly and replaced the folder, seems to have worked.
# [08:09] <nthomas> ok, any chance you grabbed a non-nightly build ?
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# [08:10] <nigelb> nthomas: what do you mean?
# [08:10] <nthomas> something from tbpl from a push
# [08:10] <nigelb> no, no.
# [08:10] <nigelb> I usually get it from nightly.mozilla.org
# [08:10] <nigelb> and don't mess with it
# [08:11] <nthomas> ah well. You could chuck me updates.xml if you're interested in pursuing it, otherwise no worries
# [08:11] <nigelb> dang, I *just* deleted the old folder.
# [08:11] <nigelb> Oh well.
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# [08:11] <nigelb> Next time, I will make sure I pursue it.
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# [08:16] <nthomas> np
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# [09:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd380f3e389e - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 949456 - MessageEventInit updated to the latest spec, r=bz
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# [10:02] <Manuela> hi guys! does anybody know where should I see the mark button, if I use this demo http://mixedpuppy.github.io/socialapi-demo/ on Firefox 27 beta 2?
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# [10:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4587af159a9e - Vivien Nicolas - Bug 950300 - Cancel APZC panning is the first touchmove is preventDefault'ed. r=kats
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# [10:54] <Ms2ger> I guess
# [10:54] <LongXiuping> thanks, I will try
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# [11:58] <Yoric> Mmmhhh..
# [11:58] <Yoric> I seem to have screwed the state of my hg by hitting ctrl-c at an inconvenient time.
# [11:58] <Yoric> abort: trying to pop unknown node c83306ab95ca
# [11:58] <Yoric> What's the solution to this kind of issue?
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# [11:59] <Ms2ger> Learn to avoid ctrl-c'ing :)
# [12:00] <Yoric> tssss
# [12:00] <Ms2ger> I haven't found a better solution :/
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# [12:01] <Yoric> I hoped that hg was more resilient than that :/
# [12:03] <hsivonen> hmm. inbound fails to build for me on Linux 64, both GCC and clang
# [12:03] <hsivonen> /opt/Projects/obj-opt/config/nsinstall: cannot access ../../xpcom/idl-parser/xpidllex.py: No such file or directory
# [12:04] <hsivonen> happens even if I roll back to the latest rev that's green on Linux on tbpl
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# [12:08] <hsivonen> no recent changes to xpcom/idl-parser/ files that I can see on MXR
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# [12:16] <hsivonen> well, this is weird. rolling the tree back to a revision that's old enough I must have seen it compile previously still fails with the same error
# [12:18] <gwagner> Ms2ger: ping
# [12:18] <gwagner> peterv: ping
# [12:18] <Yoric> ttaubert: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/session_restore#Redesigning_sessionstore.js
# [12:19] <hsivonen> what's the significance of WARNING: mkdir -dot- requested by /usr/bin/make -C /opt/Projects/obj-opt/ipc/app export ?
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# [12:20] <hsivonen> surely we can't have a date bug in the build system that makes tools that worked yesterday fail today
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# [12:21] <ttaubert> Yoric: good writeup, thx
# [12:22] <@smaug> Tomcat|sheriffduty: want to land a patch, which might help with a rather common intermittent failure, Bug 857427
# [12:22] <Yoric> ttaubert: By the way, we finally have the Telemetry results of sessionstore.js size.
# [12:22] * @smaug doesn't have a clean tree atm
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# [12:22] <Yoric> It's less scary than I feared.
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# [12:22] <ttaubert> Yoric: oh. /me looks
# [12:23] <@smaug> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I'm not sure whether it helps, but based on other fixes I've done lately, it could.
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# [12:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> smaug: cool
# [12:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> smaug: btw all integration trees are closed at the moment, no started linux build since 0:30am, informing releng now
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# [12:23] <@smaug> ah
# [12:24] <Yoric> ttaubert: http://telemetry.mozilla.org/#nightly/29/FX_SESSION_RESTORE_FILE_SIZE_BYTES
# [12:24] <@smaug> I should have looked at m-i before asking you to land the patch
# [12:24] <Yoric> ttaubert: 75% percentile is 191kb.
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# [12:24] <Yoric> 95% percentile is 1.2Mb.
# [12:24] <ttaubert> Yoric: that's really not too bad
# [12:25] <ttaubert> and it will get better
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# [12:27] <Yoric> Once we clean up stuff and compress data?
# [12:27] <ttaubert> Yoric: I do have a patch almost ready for the form data collection. once that is done we can finally get rid of dynamic shistory entries and can reduce cookies and DOMSEssionStorage
# [12:27] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> smaug: bug 952448 tracks this :)
# [12:27] <ttaubert> Yoric: oh right that's another approach
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# [12:30] <Yoric> What do you mean about DOM Session Storage?
# [12:30] <Yoric> And Cookies, too, btw.
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# [12:31] <ttaubert> Yoric: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=912717#c30
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# [12:31] <ttaubert> Yoric: and we could do the same for DOMSessionStorage, we don't need to keep that for every history entry, probably only for the current history entry and its subframes
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# [12:32] <Yoric> Makes sense.
# [12:32] <ttaubert> Yoric: it's good to keep sessionStorage data for the current page when we crash but I don't think it makes sense to do that for every google entry in the history chain
# [12:32] <ttaubert> *google search entry
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# [12:33] <Yoric> Could you add a few words on your ongoing changes to the wiki?
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# [12:33] <ttaubert> Yoric: sure, was planning to write some stuff in there anyway, about the frametree and the broadcasting etc
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# [12:33] <Yoric> Thanks.
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# [12:34] <Yoric> smacleod: Will you be in Paris in January?
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# [12:34] <Yoric> ttaubert: Do you know whether paolo is coming to Paris?
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# [12:35] <ttaubert> Yoric: according the wiki page paolo and smacleod are attending
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# [12:35] <Yoric> Ah, forgot that there is a wiki now.
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# [12:35] <Yoric> Ok, so with smacleod, we'll be able to have a brainstorming session on the future of sessionstore.js
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# [12:35] <Yoric> And with paolo on the future of Promise.
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# [12:36] <ttaubert> Yoric: yes that sounds good. I fear that might be eaten up by Sync/FxAccounts in January. not sure what the work week will look like for me
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# [12:37] <Yoric> I'll try and grab a Mutex on you :)
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# [12:42] <Fallen> is there something like htmlpad for our etherpad, but instead using markdown?
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# [12:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3d9e13f81ac5 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset b84baa03b9d1 (bug 868341) for mochitest -4 and bc testfailures
# [12:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d654a5de7510 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 70befb4cf2f4 (bug 878935) for mochitest -4 and bc test failures
# [12:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d654a5de7510 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 70befb4cf2f4 (bug 878935) for mochitest -4 and bc test failures
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# [12:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d9e13f81ac5 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset b84baa03b9d1 (bug 868341) for mochitest -4 and bc testfailures
# [12:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57c244606b02 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge mozilla-central to m-i on a CLOSED TREE
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# [13:30] <@smaug> ttaubert: do we spin event loop when closing a tab
# [13:30] <@smaug> or do we spin event loop elsewhere in FFUI code?
# [13:30] <ttaubert> smaug: I don't think so
# [13:30] <ttaubert> smaug: good question
# [13:31] <ttaubert> processNextEvent() doesn't yield anything interesting in browser/ at least
# [13:32] <@smaug> ah, I see what this bug is about
# [13:32] <@smaug> I think
# [13:33] <Yoric> I don't think that we spin the event loop, do we?
# [13:33] <@smaug> no, but http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/tabbrowser.xml#1857 doesn't expect that there is sync XHR in content
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# [14:10] <Yoric> ttaubert: Regarding bug 951675, I'd like to be sure I understand.
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# [14:11] <Yoric> The objective of this patch is to make sure that we never store the "persistent cache" bits in the "regular cache" part but that we only merge when returning the state, is that it?
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# [14:12] <ttaubert> Yoric: yes. because things that have "null" values aren't in the persistent cache. we don't know when we merge the state that we would need to remove that value
# [14:13] <Yoric> Why aren't they in the persistent cache?
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# [14:14] <ttaubert> Yoric: the nulls you mean?
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# [14:15] <Yoric> yes
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# [14:16] <ttaubert> Yoric: we could do that but we currently don't. I didn't really think of that use case back then for null values
# [14:16] <Yoric> So the only reason for this patch is that the persistent cache doesn't let us store null values but we now need these null values?
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# [14:18] <ttaubert> Yoric: well, it's anyway just an intermit solution. in the future we can just take what's in the persistent cache and use that. it would be great if we wouldn't have to remove null values then before using that data
# [14:18] <ttaubert> *interim solution
# [14:18] <ttaubert> the two caches aren't ideal but we need to still keep them until we broadcast history data
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# [14:19] <Yoric> For the moment, this code is confusing.
# [14:20] <Yoric> I'll r+, but please add enough documentation to make it clear.
# [14:20] <ttaubert> Yoric: yes, I agree. but iterating is a lot easier than rewriting this all at once
# [14:20] <ttaubert> Yoric: ok
# [14:20] <Yoric> And please file the followup bug for fixing this for good :)
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# [14:21] <ttaubert> Yoric: I will. can't wait to get rid of the fillTabCachesInBackground() etc.
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# [14:54] <zzzzz> looks like backout caused more test-fails than was being seen before the backout
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# [14:58] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM: I'm confused about the status of bug 952053? Is it currently fixed or broken?
# [14:59] <RyanVM> bsmedberg: that bug has been a confusing mess from the start
# [14:59] <RyanVM> I think the backout fixed it, but I was hoping to wait awhile to say for sure
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# [15:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bsmedberg: btw from irc backlog you want an acccoutn on plugins.mozilla.org right ?
# [15:01] <@bsmedberg> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I think I might already have one... I at least can see the plugin list
# [15:01] <@bsmedberg> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I'm not clear why it requires an account at all, though
# [15:01] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bsmedberg: oh for changing plugins and your sandbox to play
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# [15:01] <@bsmedberg> oh, I don't want to change anything
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# [15:02] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> i think the account was made for security when you want to change a plugin again or mark it as vulnerable etc
# [15:02] <@bsmedberg> I want to see the data in its raw-est form
# [15:02] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah cool
# [15:02] <@bsmedberg> Tomcat|sheriffduty: the question I had is why visiting plugins.mozilla.org requires LDAP auth at all
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# [15:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bsmedberg: ah good question
# [15:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> even i think the idea was that plugin vendors change their own plugin
# [15:04] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> but its kind of unowned, the only one working with plugins.m.i is me and schalk
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# [15:18] <@smaug> mstange: pong
# [15:18] <@smaug> sorry late pong
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# [15:21] <mstange> smaug: I noticed that you looked into the tab close thing, and wanted to tell you what I found out, but then I saw that you had already found out the same
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# [15:23] <@smaug> mstange: yeah, and I commented on the wrong bug :/
# [15:24] <mstange> smaug: oh
# [15:24] <@smaug> I think they are actually the same bug
# [15:24] <@smaug> bug 952169 and Bug 823030
# [15:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b45852a5f6df - Byron Campen [:bwc] - Bug 942950 - Avoid calling done_cb in the wrong order, or multiple times. r=ekr,r=abr, a=abillings
# [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/860046a44b12 - Jeff Walden - Bug 937793 - Tweaks to template-array creation. r=bhackett, a=abillings
# [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0d6db3ff09bb - Milan Sreckovic - Bug 893572 - Add tests. r=Bas, r=mattwoodrow, a=test-only
# [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/47ddb6fbb2ad - Olli Pettay - Bug 867505 - Intermittent test_bug536567_perwindowpb.html. r=ehsan, a=test-only
# [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/436d8d0162d9 - Olli Pettay - Bug 950342 - Random failures in toolkit/components/places/tests/browser/browser_visituri_privatebrowsing_perwindowpb.js. r=ehsan, a=test-only
# [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5a6d04f493d1 - Olli Pettay - Bug 950367 - Random failures in test_bug462106_perwindow.xul. r=ehsan, a=test-only
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# [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/dbac310ca225 - Dan Gohman - Bug 950438 - IonMonkey: The intersection of two ranges that both contain NaN is not empty. r=nbp, a=abillings
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# [15:26] <ejpbruel> peterv: ping
# [15:26] <peterv> ejpbruel: pong
# [15:26] <ejpbruel> peterv: can i ask you a question about dom bindings?
# [15:27] <peterv> you can
# [15:27] <peterv> :-)
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# [15:27] <ejpbruel> peterv: ok, so I'm trying to implement debugger support for workers
# [15:28] <ejpbruel> peterv: that means I will need at least one additional global in each worker
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# [15:28] <ejpbruel> peterv: i know that webidl has a [Func] attribute that controls visibility of a method
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# [15:29] <ejpbruel> peterv: could I use that attribute to make certain functions visible when called from one global, but not from the other?
# [15:29] <ejpbruel> peterv: or do cross compartment wrappers mess that up?
# [15:29] <Ms2ger> Yes
# [15:29] <Ms2ger> (I think)
# [15:29] <peterv> it might work, yes
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# [15:30] <ejpbruel> peterv: say i have a global x with a function a, and a global y, and i can get a reference to x from y
# [15:30] <ejpbruel> peterv: then what i get is actually a wrapper x' to x
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# [15:30] <ejpbruel> peterv: so if i call a on it, i actually call a ccw to a
# [15:30] <ejpbruel> peterv: which switches to the compartment of x before calling a
# [15:30] <ejpbruel> peterv: would that mess up how [Func] works?
# [15:31] <@bsmedberg> jmaher: ping
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# [15:33] <peterv> ejpbruel: Func is called when resolving the property though
# [15:33] <ejpbruel> peterv: good point
# [15:33] <jmaher> bsmedberg: pong
# [15:33] <peterv> so I don't think that'll work
# [15:33] <ejpbruel> peterv: but is it called when resolving the property on the original object, or on the wrapper?
# [15:33] <peterv> ejpbruel: original
# [15:33] <ejpbruel> peterv: shit :)
# [15:34] <@bsmedberg> jmaher: trying to understand the perf bug you just asked me about. In perfomatic is "Mozilla-Inbound" always PGO and there's that separate tree for non-PGO?
# [15:34] <@bsmedberg> jmaher: also note bug 951863 where that same cset was charged for improving perf by 5-10% on beta... ;-)
# [15:34] <jmaher> bsmedberg: Mozilla-Inbound is PGO (for windows/linux) and Mozilla-Inbound-Non-PGO is only for windows/linux when pgo builds are not done (default for a commit)
# [15:34] <ejpbruel> peterv: could we somehow figure out that we're actually trying to resolve the property from a different compartment?
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# [15:35] <peterv> ejpbruel: you'd have to do that in the wrapper
# [15:35] <peterv> ejpbruel: we already do that in the Xray code
# [15:35] <ejpbruel> peterv: yeah, so my main problem is that we don't have xpconnect for workers
# [15:35] <ejpbruel> peterv: so no xrays
# [15:35] <peterv> ejpbruel: see XrayResolveProperty
# [15:35] <jmaher> bsmedberg: odd that it would improve on beta and regress on inbound- I didn't think that changeset would be involved in the regression at all
# [15:36] <peterv> ejpbruel: otherwise I don't see where we'd be able to do it
# [15:36] <ejpbruel> peterv: i need to come up with something special for workers :)
# [15:36] <@bsmedberg> jmaher: well... it's a PGO-only change to build-config, so it's quite reasonable
# [15:36] <peterv> I thought we were going to try to graft Xrays on workers
# [15:36] <peterv> without XPConnect
# [15:36] <Ms2ger> That's what I remember too
# [15:36] <@bsmedberg> jmaher: I'm trying to figure out whether the same perf improvement happened on inbound... mbrubeck seemed to think it did
# [15:36] <ekr> Is there a way to set default mach arguments? I am getting pretty tired of doing --log-no-times
# [15:37] <ekr> gps: ^^
# [15:37] <Ms2ger> Not yet, I think
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# [15:37] <jmaher> bsmedberg: a lot of perf improvements have happened recently
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# [15:37] <Ms2ger> ekr, out of interest, any particular reason to use --log-no-times?
# [15:37] <ejpbruel> peterv: i haven't heard anything about that from bholley
# [15:38] <ekr> Ms2ger: so that emacs compiler error processing works
# [15:38] <Ms2ger> Ah, I see
# [15:38] <@bsmedberg> jmaher: so my naive reaction if the perf improvements are true is that this is 1) really weird and worth investigating why it happened and 2) the improvements outweight the regressions and this should stay in
# [15:38] <peterv> ejpbruel: yeah, not sure what's going on either, might want to check with him
# [15:38] <@bsmedberg> jmaher: since we already have the bug to investigate the *improvement*, should we just dup them, or what?
# [15:38] <ejpbruel> peterv: alright. thanks for the feedback
# [15:39] <peterv> sure
# [15:39] <peterv> ejpbruel: I think doing what you want to do without a custom wrapper (or Xray) is going to be hard
# [15:39] <jmaher> bsmedberg: I would be fine combining the two bugs- I don't think it should be a high priority thing- although understanding it early next year would be helpful
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# [15:41] <ejpbruel> peterv: another thing i have in mind is to use [Func] to make certain functions on (Shared)Worker invisible from JS when not on the main thread, but provide methods on the debugger's global that call through to these methods via C++
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# [15:41] <ejpbruel> peterv: so ordinary worker scripts cannot access these methods, but debugger scripts can
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# [15:41] <ejpbruel> peterv: ofc this relies on the debugger not being malicious, but only chrome can load debugger scripts, so that should be fine
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# [15:42] <mccr8> ejpbruel: that's kind of like ChromeOnly, I think. except not chrome...
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# [15:42] <peterv> :-)
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# [15:43] <ejpbruel> mccr8: exactly
# [15:44] <ejpbruel> mccr8: this is more like [MainThreadOnly], except the debugger has methods that can bypass it
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# [15:44] <ejpbruel> its a hack, but it should work
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# [16:10] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smalltalk#List_of_implementations
# [16:11] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: which reminds me of http://amber-lang.net/
# [16:11] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: (try pressing that green button on the webpage!)
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# [16:13] <secretrobotron> ahhh yeah
# [16:13] <secretrobotron> i've heard of amber before
# [16:13] <secretrobotron> i wonder if it's any good
# [16:13] <@ehsan> dunno
# [16:13] <secretrobotron> well
# [16:13] <secretrobotron> "Try this in your browser"
# [16:13] <@ehsan> iirc it was on hacker news a long time ago
# [16:14] <@ehsan> and all of the hipsters were getting psyched over it
# [16:14] <secretrobotron> hahahaha
# [16:14] <secretrobotron> hipster engineers are the worst
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# [16:15] <secretrobotron> ehsan: i think i sent this to you before, but this is what spurred my most recent interest in all of this stuff
# [16:15] <secretrobotron> http://worrydream.com/#!/TheFutureOfProgramming
# [16:16] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: 32mins... I'll watch it later
# [16:16] <secretrobotron> doesn't it take you 32 minutes to eat your cereal?
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# [16:18] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: not when I'm awake ;)
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# [16:18] <Ms2ger> ehsan, [citation needed] :)
# [16:18] <secretrobotron> hahah
# [16:19] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: ouch!
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# [16:23] <mbrubeck> bsmedberg, jmaher: Here's the dev-tree-management thread from the previous inbound landing: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.dev.tree-management/4l74Jca7irw/discussion
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# [16:55] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: I'm about to push a patch directly to m-c. Want me to push a CLOBBER change while I'm at it?
# [16:55] <RyanVM> might as well
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# [16:55] <RyanVM> thanks
# [16:56] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: okay. do we know what the comment should say?
# [16:56] <mbrubeck> and should I reland the backed-out patches too?
# [16:56] <RyanVM> mbrubeck: 3d9e13f81ac5 can reland
# [16:56] <mbrubeck> will do
# [16:56] <RyanVM> AFAICT, d654a5de7510 needed a UUID bump, which is what caused the whole mess
# [16:57] <mbrubeck> got it, so I'll note that the clobber is for a missing UUID change that's since backed out?
# [16:57] <RyanVM> so the message can be "landed and backed out without UUID bump" I guess
# [16:57] <RyanVM> yeah, thanks :)
# [16:59] <mbrubeck> I'm not sure how much these changes depend on each other, so I'll just touch CLOBBER and leave the relanding to blassey
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# [17:00] <RyanVM> mbrubeck: yeah, we tend to err on the "you figure it out" side of things when it's obviously not build system bustage leading to it
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# [17:10] <RyanVM> i love that our build/test infra is affected the holiday shopping season
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# [17:11] <Ms2ger> Eh?
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# [17:11] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: aws
# [17:11] <Ms2ger> Fun
# [17:12] <@khuey> hah
# [17:12] <@khuey> that's great
# [17:12] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: one more hour...
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# [17:15] <nigelb> RyanVM: Clearly, we should have our own cloud.
# [17:15] <nigelb> FoxCloud
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# [17:16] <Ms2ger> What does the Fox Cloud?
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# [17:22] <ttaubert> Yoric: "The current JS file is already one of the worst among browsers for readability." <-- wat?
# [17:22] <Ms2ger> Wat?
# [17:22] <Yoric> Yeah, "Wat"
# [17:22] * Yoric suggests comparing with the Chromium version, which is journaled binary...
# [17:23] <ttaubert> bug 810932
# [17:23] <ttaubert> Ms2ger: ^
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# [17:24] <ttaubert> :)
# [17:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a2895701eef - Matt Brubeck - Bug 952324 - Don't block native events for more than 50ms [r=jimm]
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# [17:25] <nigelb> mbrubeck: Hah, TIL.
# [17:25] <ttaubert> in good old windows tradition we could also rename it to sessionstore.dat and come up with a totally weird custom format
# [17:25] <ttaubert> +binary
# [17:26] <@gavin> mork it up
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# [17:27] <Ms2ger> gavin, you're off the design committee
# [17:28] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: hey, it solves the large writes issue - mork will just append changes until you do a full rewrite
# [17:28] <@gavin> mork it real good
# [17:29] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, and you :)
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# [17:30] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: if gavin was trolling he'd have suggested RDF :-P
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# [17:30] <ttaubert> brilliant
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# [17:31] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: actually, that's not true, he'd have had to suggest RDF/XML to be really trolling, as opposed to RDF/mork, which would have been realistic ;-)
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# [18:58] <WeirdAl> Yoric: I hate having to defend my work :)
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# [19:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/076025a24ba4 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 952395 - Update Homebrew bootstrap URL to reflect upstream changes
# [19:05] <lsblakk> jrmuizel: ping
# [19:05] <jrmuizel> lsblakk: pong
# [19:06] <lsblakk> hi jrmuizel, i see in bug 812695 that you meant to check in with us about the relnotes for 26
# [19:06] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: so we're using MFBT rather than WTF RefPtr for WebKit code?
# [19:06] <lsblakk> we have it marked as fixed, but it has been reopened
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# [19:06] <jrmuizel> lsblakk: yes
# [19:06] <jrmuizel> lsblakk: can we fix the relnotes?
# [19:06] <KWierso> ehsan: did you break ASAN?
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# [19:07] <lsblakk> jrmuizel: i can return it to known issues - and change the status on all the branches
# [19:07] <lsblakk> jrmuizel: is there a potential fix coming?
# [19:07] <jrmuizel> lsblakk: great
# [19:07] <@ehsan> KWierso: guess so
# [19:07] <@ehsan> KWierso: I'll back out :(
# [19:07] <jrmuizel> lsblakk: it might also be worth adding a note about the work around
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# [19:07] <KWierso> ehsan: thanks
# [19:07] <lsblakk> jrmuizel: yes, can do that
# [19:07] <jrmuizel> lsblakk: yes we have a potential fix, but it is currently blocked by a really weird talos regression that I'm tracking
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# [19:09] <@ehsan> KWierso: hmm, -p all doesn't include ASAN apparently https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=741e7e5ae4c7
# [19:09] <@ehsan> wtf!
# [19:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b7739306a76 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out 4 changesets (bug 940708) for ASAN bustage
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# [19:11] <jmaher> jrm2k6_: which talos regression?
# [19:11] <jmaher> ack I meant that for jrmuizel
# [19:11] <jrm2k6_> :)
# [19:12] <@ehsan> KWierso: this is not my fault is it? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32282220&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [19:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4fcb5a4ebae - Gregory Szorc - Bug 951352 - Disallow XPIDL_MODULE if XPIDL_SOURCES isn't defined; r=glandium
# [19:12] <KWierso> ehsan: doesn't look like it
# [19:13] <KWierso> ehsan: according to trychooser, ASAN is not run by default
# [19:13] <@ehsan> :(
# [19:13] <KWierso> -p all,linux64-asan is what you want
# [19:13] * @ehsan is really pissed now
# [19:13] <@ehsan> I've spent like a week to get this thing to build everywhere :(
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# [19:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2abdcd24744 - Terrence Cole - Bug 952551 - Fix an exact rooting hazard in Shape::dump; r=sfink
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# [19:33] <bent> ehsan, there's a bug filed on this
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# [19:34] <@ehsan> bent: on which?
# [19:34] <bent> bug 918057
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# [19:42] <yeukhon> smaug: regarding 951895 "So if there is some non-XUL document and inside that a frame MM, broadcasting won't work," what do you mean this?
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# [19:43] <@ehsan> bent: thanks
# [19:43] <@smaug> yeukhon: if there is some html document somewhere loaded to a non-chrome window, and inside that there is <iframe mozbrowser>, that is not part of the mm hierarchy
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# [19:44] <yeukhon> okay so if im just loading an iframe iframe = getDocumetById("iframe_id") and then iframe.src = "xxxx.html" then attaching a listener on it will not work smaug
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# [19:46] <@smaug> yeukhon: right, if iframe.ownerWindow.defaultView isn't ChromeWindow
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# [19:47] <yeukhon> smaug: okay because thats what is going on in my case. i on;y get garabage msg back from the console stuff like [JavaScript Warning: "Duplicate resource declaration for 'gre-resources' ignored." {file: "file:///home/vagrant/mozilla-central/obj-b2g/dist/bin/chrome/toolkit.manifest" line: 7}]
# [19:47] <yeukhon> thanks i will just work on my desktop test passing then
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# [19:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0445889c323 - Ted Mielczarek - Get rid of DOS line endings in test_crash_runtimeabort.js (no bug)
# [19:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53bae7141bf6 - Ted Mielczarek - bug 918389 - move XPCOM abort messages into separate crash annotations. r=bsmedberg
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# [19:57] <jchen> bsmedberg: any chance you'll get to review bug 951431 today?
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# [20:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c3731bf49a7 - Ben Turner - Bug 951671, Periodic Worker activity during idle. r=khuey.
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# [20:41] <grobinson> yeukhon: did you try your test with the patch from 951895? It's got my tests working on B2G
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# [20:43] <@smaug> tn: any other ideas how to debug that, without having access to windows dev environment
# [20:43] <tn> smaug: my try run worked, i just haven't looked at the output yet
# [20:43] <@smaug> ah
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# [20:43] <@smaug> oh, didn't notice your message
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# [21:07] <yeukhon> grobinson: i tried. won't work i think smaug's response is exactly what is causing mine not to pass.
# [21:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/39778c27c5fd - Brian Hackett - Bug 951213 - Improve robustness when rolling back properties after the definite properties analysis fails, r=jandem.
# [21:08] <yeukhon> though i am able to read some garbage (without the patch)
# [21:08] <yeukhon> i am now focusing on getting desktop build passing. it's the SimpleTest.finish() called multuplie times problem.
# [21:08] <yeukhon> *i also have a b2g desktop build on my machine, yay*
# [21:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/226af3342987 - Brian Hackett - Bug 952330 - Synchronize updates to the slots pointer in global objects, r=jandem.
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# [21:59] <RealRaven1> Hello:@ mozdev.org is down for 4 solid days now :-( Can nobody help?
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# [22:03] <RealRaven1> Waldo: just casting a wide net here as Pete COllins did not reply to my emails and David Boswell couldn't do anything about it.
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# [22:17] <jchen> will inbound get merged later today or over the weekend?
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# [22:22] <Waldo> KWierso: what was the merging story over the next two weeks? vaguely periodic as in maybe once a day as someone cares, probably?
# [22:22] <KWierso> Waldo: don't believe we have any sheriffduty coverage until january
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# [22:23] <Waldo> ooh, funtimes
# [22:23] * Waldo makes a note to land all his dodgier patches during that time
# [22:23] <KWierso> though if we check by and see things busted, we'll probably just close everything and let people sort things out :)
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# [22:25] <Waldo> nice things? not ours
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# [22:31] <@khuey> hmm
# [22:31] <@khuey> how did we get to attachment 8 million something?
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# [22:32] <sfink> there was a recent intentional gap, I think
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# [22:32] <Waldo> khuey: typo in a SQL autoincrement modification when updating bmo
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# [22:32] <sfink> not so intentional then
# [22:32] <@khuey> nice
# [22:33] <Waldo> http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/7154
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# [22:33] <sfink> we could start over at -1 and count down
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# [22:34] <Waldo> sfink: I'm going to vote negatively on that proposal
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# [22:35] <sfink> you'd prefer to start over at 1.00000001 and count by billionths?
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# [22:36] <Waldo> sfink: that proposal's so bad, it's only epsilon away from being completely broken
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# [22:37] <sfink> Waldo with the save
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# [22:44] <@khuey> nrc|Christmas: that's pretty pessimistic
# [22:45] <nrc|Christmas> I prefer realistic
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# [22:46] <nrc|Christmas> pessimistic would be just renaming the pref to 'crashonstartup.enabled'
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# [22:46] <nrc|Christmas> although, that is also realistic
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# [22:47] <mt> Does anyone here know why I'm getting an undefined (e) in a JS catch block? The code is basically this: try { this.__DOM_IMPL__.dispatchEvent(); } catch(e) { /* e is undefined! */ }
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# [22:47] <mt> The reason I ask is that I'm getting the first of said events in content JS, but not the second.
# [22:48] <Waldo> mt: I suspect there's a lot of mileage between "basically" and what you actually have, and that mileage matters ;-)
# [22:48] <Waldo> mt: a full testcase would be helpful
# [22:48] <mt> Waldo: I thought that might be the case, I'll pastebin one.
# [22:48] <Waldo> good man
# [22:48] <Waldo> :-)
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# [22:51] <mt> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3821000 is what I think is relevant, will expand if that isn't enough.
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# [22:53] <Waldo> hm, dunno at a glance
# [22:53] <billm> khuey: ping
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# [22:55] <@khuey> billm: pong
# [22:55] <mt> Is there any reason that the debugger might stop in the catch block without there actually being an exception thrown?
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# [22:55] <billm> khuey: regarding the file picker patch: do we currently do the fopen on a separate thread?
# [22:56] <@khuey> billm: if it's not being opened until necko needs it, yes
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# [22:56] <@khuey> billm: but tehre are a variety of things that could potentially defeat that
# [22:56] <billm> khuey: like what?
# [22:57] <@khuey> billm: the dependencies of 656640 for instance
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# [22:57] <@khuey> and those are from two years ago, so who knows what's out there now
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# [22:58] <billm> khuey: what do you think I should do. I also realized that returning an error if we can't open the file is not the right thing. it breaks a test.
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# [23:01] <billm> khuey: if I put the open call in nsFileInputStream::Serialize, that would at least restrict the problem to e10s
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# [23:02] <@khuey> billm: I think nsIIPCSerializableInputStream needs to be modified so that Serialize can fail
# [23:02] <@khuey> bent probably has opinions about this
# [23:03] <billm> khuey: I don't really understand what failure is supposed to mean. we have a test that wants everything to succeed even if the file is gone.
# [23:03] <@khuey> billm: of course, if we serialize on hte main thread that doesn't actually help
# [23:03] <bent> it's not possible for it to fail
# [23:03] <bent> the ipc code doesn't have any way to stop serializing data mid-stream
# [23:03] <billm> khuey: well, it means that desktop firefox will be unaffected
# [23:03] <billm> for now
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# [23:04] <@khuey> billm: alternatively, we could call this another manifestation of our "blobs suck" problems and just live with the main thread io
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# [23:04] <billm> khuey: do you know which thread Serialize runs on?
# [23:04] <@khuey> bent: billm is running into a situation where he needs to add main thread i/o to satisfy the "we already have an fd" requirement of the file stream
# [23:04] <@khuey> billm: no, but bent does
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# [23:05] <bent> serialize happens on the thread that calls Send()
# [23:05] <bent> so, main thread
# [23:05] <@khuey> so that's still the main thread here
# [23:05] <billm> hm
# [23:06] <bent> you basically need to have all the info to serialize ready before you call send
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# [23:06] <bent> so hopefully do your io stuff first
# [23:06] <@khuey> billm: I suspect we'll just have to live with the main thread i/o for now
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# [23:07] <bent> hm
# [23:07] <bent> avoiding that would be better :)
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# [23:08] <@khuey> sure
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# [23:08] <@khuey> but we already end up doing main thread i/o with blobs in a bunch of places
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# [23:09] <billm> khuey, bent: somewhat related to this, do you guys know what's up with test_submit_invalid_file.html ?
# [23:09] <billm> it seems like the test is asking for pretty weird behavior
# [23:09] <bent> i'm not familiar with it
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# [23:10] <bent> what is it trying to do?
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# [23:10] <billm> it sets the file for an <input type=file> to a file that it then deletes.
# [23:10] <@khuey> billm: see bug 702949?
# [23:10] <bent> oh, this
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# [23:12] <billm> khuey: karlt's suggestion in that bug seems way more reasonable. is it hard to implement?
# [23:12] <@khuey> billm: in which bug?
# [23:12] <billm> bug 702949
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# [23:13] <billm> opening the file when it's picked
# [23:13] <billm> rather than when you submit
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# [23:13] <@khuey> well I think that's what we would have to do to avoid main thread i/o here
# [23:13] <@khuey> implementing it would be non-trivial but probably not super hard
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# [23:15] <billm> khuey: ok. I'll see if I can do that. if it's too hard, I'd like to go with the current approach though. does that seem okay?
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# [23:16] <@khuey> billm: well it breaks the test for that bug, no?
# [23:16] <@khuey> so it doesn't seem like the current approach is ok ...
# [23:16] <billm> khuey: I think I could just ignore the error from Available, right?
# [23:16] <@khuey> billm: yeah
# [23:16] <@khuey> that would be fine, I think
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# [23:17] <billm> khuey: ok. I'll work on the early-open approach and come pester you again if it doesn't seem worth it. thanks.
# [23:18] <@khuey> ok
# [23:18] <@khuey> sgtm
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# [23:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a1833435382 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 4c45705d14c4 (reland bug 952330 since it wasn't at fault for the ggc orange)
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# [23:31] <mbrubeck> what do you get when you convert EmptyString() to nsIURI?
# [23:31] <mbrubeck> (no, that's not the setup for a joke)
# [23:31] <mbrubeck> Do you get an nsIURI with uri.spec == ""?
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# [23:32] <@khuey> mbrubeck: depends on the protocol handler, presumably
# [23:33] <mbrubeck> khuey: More specifically, when http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/html/content/src/HTMLInputElement.cpp#859 passes EmptyString() to a function expecting nsIURI*, what actually gets passed?
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# [23:34] <@khuey> mbrubeck: er
# [23:34] <@khuey> mbrubeck: try counting the arguments again?
# [23:34] <mbrubeck> ah, that makes more sense. :)
# [23:34] <@khuey> :D
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