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  74. # [14:27] <zzzzz> hmmm, again today no Nightly's started on m-c
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  78. # [14:30] <qheaden> On Firefox for Android, what is the glue that binds the Java front end code with the C++ back end Mozilla platform? I'm assuming JNI.
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  172. # [16:54] <jesup> Ahhhhhhh :-) 85 Mbps down, 35 Mbps up (officially 75/35 FiOS). And the same price as my old 25/15 (triple-play) package, too. 150/50, 300/75(?), and 500/100(?) are available too, but much more (especially 500)
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  176. # [16:56] <ckitching> jesup: You can get that to your house?
  177. # [16:57] <ckitching> The best I can get here, unless I pay approximately all the money to have them lay fibreoptics just for me, is 7 down and 1 up. :P
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  187. # [17:08] <nemo> yeesh. CPU usage in firefox on http://www.examiner.com/article/jahi-mcmath-case-opens-questions-about-routine-tonsillectomies
  188. # [17:08] <nemo> was absolutely insane
  189. # [17:08] <nemo> 100% CPU, browser basically unusable
  190. # [17:08] <nemo> scrolling horribly slow...
  191. # [17:08] <nemo> just gave up, closed the tab, and switched to reading the site in w3m
  192. # [17:09] <nemo> are sites getting out of control w/ their JS, or are they not testing in Firefox anymore, or is this a new Firefox bug?
  193. # [17:09] <nemo> this was in stable
  194. # [17:09] <nemo> (under linux)
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  197. # [17:14] <evilpie> nemo: i see like 10% split on a few cores while scrolling on that page
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  199. # [17:14] <evilpie> don't really see lag while scrolling
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  201. # [17:17] <nemo> evilpie: ah. completely locked up for me
  202. # [17:17] * nemo sighs and opens it again
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  204. # [17:17] <nemo> yep. started again
  205. # [17:17] <nemo> let's see if I can get this to happen in nightly w/ profiling
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  207. # [17:19] <nemo> evilpie: yep. also bad in test profile
  208. # [17:19] <nemo> scorecardresearch.com
  209. # [17:19] <nemo> hmmm
  210. # [17:19] <evilpie> this is my dirty nightly profile
  211. # [17:19] <nemo> that site is familiar
  212. # [17:19] <nemo> they locked up my firefox much more seriously in past
  213. # [17:19] <nemo> I did some profiling of it at the time, but nothing came of it...
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  215. # [17:20] <nemo> evilpie: http://people.mozilla.org/~bgirard/cleopatra/#report=37a9eb83e15be2a518b74f56fc72102996470d83
  216. # [17:20] <evilpie> i am play l4d, don't really have time right now, sorrt
  217. # [17:20] <nemo> evilpie: anyway. slightly more manageable in the nightly profile. possibly due to the other profile having layers and skia enabled maybe
  218. # [17:20] * nemo shrugs
  219. # [17:20] <nemo> evilpie: heh. downloaded it on the free day eh
  220. # [17:20] <evilpie> no
  221. # [17:20] <nemo> not really my kind of genre
  222. # [17:20] <nemo> oh
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  224. # [17:21] <evilpie> bought it the valve pack
  225. # [17:21] <nemo> was busy w/ the hedgewars release anyway
  226. # [17:21] <nemo> mm
  227. # [17:21] <nemo> CPU usage is still absurdly high tho
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  229. # [17:22] <nemo> ran it again just in case
  230. # [17:22] <nemo> http://people.mozilla.org/~bgirard/cleopatra/#report=34e70a85fb00a0a1e99ced120cc9596c47ccdd31
  231. # [17:22] <nemo> seems unchanged
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  233. # [17:23] <nemo> but. yeah. that scorecardresearch. always locking up my firefox javascript :(
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  236. # [17:25] <nemo> oh. my mistake. last time was "crowdscience"
  237. # [17:25] <nemo> scorecard research *is* a source of lag tho, in my non-noscript profile
  238. # [17:26] <evilpie> nemo: seems like it's blocked by pluggn stuff
  239. # [17:26] <nemo> welp
  240. # [17:26] <evilpie> try disabling flash or something?
  241. # [17:26] <nemo> evilpie: ah.
  242. # [17:26] <nemo> hm
  243. # [17:26] <nemo> is flash even enabled?
  244. # [17:26] <nemo> it shouldn't be on the other profile
  245. # [17:26] <nemo> always activate. hum.
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  247. # [17:27] <nemo> much more reasonable with flash set to "never activate"
  248. # [17:27] <nemo> my other profile might have been set to shumway
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  251. # [17:29] <evilpie> this might some that needs fixing, but I don't really understand how plugins work
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  254. # [17:30] <nemo> evilpie: badly?
  255. # [17:30] <nemo> evilpie: I don't really understand the opposition to pepper really...
  256. # [17:30] <nemo> is it NIH syndrome?
  257. # [17:30] <evilpie> no
  258. # [17:30] <evilpie> from what i understand they have a whole new DOM API that we would need to implement
  259. # [17:30] <evilpie> and we want to kill plugins anywat
  260. # [17:31] <nemo> evilpie: hm. well, if they want pepper acceptance, maybe they could submit a pull request :)
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  333. # [18:59] <WG9s> Wondering if anyone might be around who knows why were not triggering nightly builds on mozilla-central?
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  383. # [20:04] <jesup> ckitching: Yes, that's residential FiOS. 500/100 is $255/month more... a bit steep for home use - and hard to find servers that would feed that ;-). Lowest available is 15/5; 50/20 is $10 more, 75/35 is $10 more than that. 150/65 is where it jumps ($55 more than 75/35)
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  465. # [22:37] <philor> whole crapload of (slow) logic to find the latest revision with good builds, which has awkward side-effects, and it's probably been bypassed every single night because we were looking for a non-red win64 debug build, but as long as we had l10n changes we'd say screw it and build the tip rev anyway
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  516. # [23:26] <Waldo> hello world
  517. # [23:26] <Waldo> anyone know what version of gcc is used to compile the B2G ICS Emulator Opt/Debug red builds on <https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=c0521cf61300>?
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  520. # [23:26] <Waldo> I can't reproduce a similar error with a manually cut-down reduced testcase with gcc 4.4.7
  521. # [23:27] <Waldo> which is what I thought was being used there, and appears to be what's used per the /builds/slave/b2g_try_emu_dep-00000000000000/build/prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain/arm-linux-androideabi-4.4.x/bin/arm-linux-androideabi-g++ references in the log
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  523. # [23:30] <philor> "Package gcc-4.4.6-3.el6.x86_64 already installed and latest version"?
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  525. # [23:31] <Waldo> hmm, maybe?
  526. # [23:32] <Waldo> I suppose I could try with gcc 4.4.6, but I would be extraordinarily surprised if this behavior changed between 4.4.6 and 4.4.7
  527. # [23:32] <Waldo> also I can't actually compile with my locally-compiled 4.4.7, I think because my libstdc++ files/headers are too new
  528. # [23:32] <philor> "checking compiler version... arm-linux-androideabi-gcc (GCC) 4.4.3"
  529. # [23:33] <Waldo> I would be equally surprised to encounter a 4.4.3/4.4.7 issue
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  531. # [23:33] <Waldo> well, less so, but not appreciably so
  532. # [23:33] <philor> it's just b2g, just push it and see if anyone notices the change to permared
  533. # [23:33] <Waldo> r+
  534. # [23:34] <Waldo> but seriously, gotta figure out something here
  535. # [23:34] <Waldo> and the = nullptr pattern is going to be common enough I don't think we can simply omit it
  536. # [23:35] * Waldo is pretty sure he's not going to descend to attempting to use a locally-built, older libstdc++
  537. # [23:36] <Waldo> so probably I'll just end up doing what I'm already doing, debugging by try
  538. # [23:36] <Waldo> at least I shouldn't need to push -p all
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  541. # [23:40] <Waldo> wonder if there's some way I could convince try to spew out -E output for that single file into the log
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  553. # [23:48] <philor> next week, it'll be easy to get a loaner slave, and only moderately difficult to use it (since you "just" have to reproduce all the steps in the log to get the toolchain installed)
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  555. # [23:49] <philor> this week? well, try is sitting around looking rather bored
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  562. # [23:54] <Waldo> yeah
  563. # [23:54] <Waldo> my other option is wait for people to get back, then badger someone into doing a build with those patches
  564. # [23:55] <Waldo> which really wouldn't take that long, Runtime.cpp is early in the build process
  565. # [23:56] <Waldo> right now I don't obviously see the issue with the current setup, so I'm just sort of stabbing in the dark
  566. # [23:56] <glandium> Waldo: for try, you can add something like: libs::\n\t$(MAKE) -C dir/where/Runtime.cpp/is Runtime.i\n\tcat dir/where/Runtime.cpp/is/Runtime.i\n\texit 1
  567. # [23:56] <glandium> in the top-level Makefile.in
  568. # [23:59] <Waldo> hmm, worth a try
  569. # [23:59] <Waldo> (pun intended)
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