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  1. # Session Start: Mon Jan 06 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
  3. # [00:00] <@smaug> grr
  4. # [00:01] * @smaug wonders how much time one can spend to fix one randomly failing test
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  6. # [00:03] <Gijs> more than you would like.
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  11. # [00:08] <Gijs> How do I declare a bool pointer arg on a [noscript]'d method in a .idl ?
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  14. # [00:11] <@smaug> Gijs: out?
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  16. # [00:11] <Gijs> smaug: I guess it's technically inout?
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  18. # [00:11] <@smaug> hackish if it is actually 'in'
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  20. # [00:11] <Gijs> smaug: basically, got a recursive call in which I need to keep track of stuff
  21. # [00:11] <@smaug> ah, inout should then work
  22. # [00:11] <Gijs> right, fair enough
  23. # [00:12] <Gijs> smaug: thanks!
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  26. # [00:16] * @njn finally works out why Firefox forks at startup on Linux
  27. # [00:16] <@njn> (bug 639842)
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  31. # [00:21] <Gijs> Am I misremembering, or does a single noscript method addition to an interface /not/ require an idl rev?
  32. # [00:22] <Gijs> s/idl/idl interface id/
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  35. # [00:25] <Waldo> Gijs: should require one, what if someone inherited from that interface?
  36. # [00:25] <Gijs> Waldo: OK! :)
  37. # [00:25] <Waldo> you'd be throwing off all that interface's vtable entries
  38. # [00:26] <Gijs> fair enough
  39. # [00:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/183398cf2b5e - Mats Palmgren - Bug 955712 - Don't draw background color when not needed. r=roc
  40. # [00:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/794680b9599d - Mats Palmgren - Bug 956447 - Make it possible to get frame dumps in non-DEBUG builds. r=roc
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  126. # [02:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/14ac61461f2a - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 952397 - Merge |mach valgrind-test| and valgrind_test.py. r=ted.
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  198. # [03:35] <@njn> why does my requested |V| job not show up in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=2be0fc2f13a8&showall=1 ? Usually it does for pushes like that, but I've had this happen twice now where nothing ever showed up
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  211. # [03:54] <nthomas> hmm, strange. It ran green and finished an hour ago
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  214. # [03:58] <nthomas> ah, it actually happened on daf17073da76
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  218. # [04:00] <nthomas> since that an 2be0f were pushed within 60 seconds of each other, the poller picked them up at the same time, and downstream those changes got coalesced (when they shouldn't have been)
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  227. # [04:07] <@njn> nthomas: ah, thanks
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  229. # [04:07] <@njn> nthomas: is coalescing meant to not happen on try?
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  231. # [04:08] <nthomas> njn: no, although the obvious place you don't want that is tests
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  233. # [04:08] <@njn> nthomas: I re-pushed
  234. # [04:08] <@njn> nthomas: hopefully it won't be green, because it's supposed to be red with that patch :)
  235. # [04:08] <nthomas> heh
  236. # [04:08] <@njn> nthomas: or maybe orange
  237. # [04:09] <@njn> no, probably red
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  245. # [04:17] <jcranmer|away> remote: added 3522 changesets with 15300 changes to 7105 files (+1 heads)
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  248. # [04:25] <JosiahOne> jcranmer|away: Hmm?
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  250. # [04:26] <JosiahOne> jcranmer|away: Oh, on Alder?
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  252. # [04:29] <jcranmer|away> someone was talking about a large changeset
  253. # [04:29] <jcranmer|away> my changesets don't think small either
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  287. # [05:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d1cf3709a1f0 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 893496: Avoid doing bogus infinity*0 multiplication when producing a flex weight from huge flex-shrink and 0 flex-basis. r=mats
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  447. # [08:37] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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  457. # [08:44] <ted416> Salut. Comment ça va?
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  507. # [09:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/98660dab432f - Neil Rashbrook - Bug 940907 Re-introduce the Character Encoding menu to the View Source window r=Unfocused
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  607. # [11:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b3b3f0c6440 - Geoff Lankow - Bug 953156 - Stop unregistering add-on chrome manifests at app shutdown; r=Unfocused
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  621. # [11:46] <steve> hey all. trying to build trunk with vs2013. just barfed with the following :
  622. # [11:46] <steve> PRIVATE -Id:/build/moz_r/dist/include/nspr -Id:/build/moz_r/dist/include/nspr -I
  623. # [11:46] <steve> d:/build/moz_r/dist/include/dbm -Id:/build/moz_r/dist/private/dbm "z:/dev/mozil
  624. # [11:46] <steve> la/security/nss/lib/dbm/src/db.c"' failed, return code 2
  625. # [11:46] <steve> 28:14.11 h_page.c
  626. # [11:46] <steve> 28:14.13 z:/dev/mozilla/security/nss/lib/dbm/src/h_page.c : fatal error C1041: c
  627. # [11:46] <steve> annot open program database 'd:\build\moz_r\security\nss\lib\dbm\src\vc120.pdb';
  628. # [11:46] <steve> if multiple CL.EXE write to the same .PDB file, please use /FS
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  632. # [11:47] <steve> booted for 8 lines ? how rude :) not worth a pastebin for that.
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  636. # [11:48] <bkero> It should have been 3.
  637. # [11:49] <steve> whatever. you see what I see when it doesn't work.
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  639. # [11:51] <steve> got a start-msvc12.bat to contribute - basic, anyone could do it but no point doing it multiple times. anyone want it ? I don't have tree access.
  640. # [11:52] <steve> going to try another build to see if it gets past that. if not will try adding the flag suggested.
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  644. # [11:56] <steve> pmake from the root of the objdir seems to have worked around that. probably wants looking at sometime but if it doesn't block, I don't care. fyi anyhow.
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  649. # [12:00] <steve> start-msvc12.bat for mozilla build tools here : http://pastebin.com/uwz8iQSa
  650. # [12:00] <steve> happy new year all.
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  657. # [12:02] <steve> that's to build with vs express 2013. build going with latest trunk right now. guess we'll see if it succeeds. will take a while - slow machine.
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  676. # [12:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae51b76a9c88 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 4b3b3f0c6440 (bug 953156) for xpcshell failures
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  707. # [13:18] <steve> vs2013 experimental compile : mozilla/gfx/angle/src/libEGL/Surface.cpp(378) : error C2039: 'max' : is not a member of 'std' (+ a couple of similar - easy fix)
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  714. # [13:23] <steve> just after #include <tchar.h> in mozilla/gfx/angle/src/libEGL/Surface.cpp to fix
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  803. # [14:31] <ekr> emorley|sheriffduty: ping
  804. # [14:32] <ekr> edmorley|sheriffduty: ^^
  805. # [14:32] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ekr: hi
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  807. # [14:33] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ekr: (I find tab-complete helpful for avoiding typos btw :-))
  808. # [14:33] <ekr> potential impending bustage on your latest push: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3951223
  809. # [14:34] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ekr: that's a clobber-needed (see b2g-inbound), am filing a bug to get the build dependencies fixed
  810. # [14:34] <ekr> edmorley|sheriffduty: No worries. Just wanted to let you know
  811. # [14:34] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ekr: thank you :-)
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  829. # [14:53] <@smaug> is it holiday in US today?
  830. # [14:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1b021e8fc5cc - Olli Pettay - Bug 947778, return early from SetEventHandler when ELM can't find the global jsobject, r=bz
  831. # [14:54] <Ms2ger> Probably
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  833. # [14:55] <Ms2ger> edmorley|sheriffduty, might want to merge that around ^
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  835. # [14:55] <ekr> smaug: no.
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  841. # [14:59] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: :-)
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  843. # [15:01] <@bz> smaug: no
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  845. # [15:03] <jcranmer> smaug: no, but I've been told not to go outside
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  847. # [15:04] <@smaug> jcranmer: you have winter there?
  848. # [15:04] <jcranmer> smaug: the windchill is -40
  849. # [15:04] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, did it snow between your bed and your desk? :)
  850. # [15:05] * @smaug misses winter, which seems bypass Helsinki this year.
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  852. # [15:05] <ttaubert> same here in Berlin
  853. # [15:05] <ttaubert> it's 12C tomorrow
  854. # [15:05] * ttaubert doesn't miss winter though
  855. # [15:05] <jcranmer> -40C, by the way
  856. # [15:05] <jcranmer> also -40F
  857. # [15:05] <Ms2ger> (Yes, I steal my jokes from burntelectrons)
  858. # [15:05] * till doesn't either
  859. # [15:05] <zzzzz> -13F in Indy - -55 windchill brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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  861. # [15:06] <ekr> 38 right now in Palo Alto :)
  862. # [15:06] <NeilAway> bz: any idea whether you can get text-overflow to work in tables?
  863. # [15:07] <Ms2ger> I don't think it's been below 8°C this "winter"
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  866. # [15:07] * Yoric would have liked to show snow to his son.
  867. # [15:07] <Yoric> Now that he can actually look and play :)
  868. # [15:07] <NeilAway> alas, poor Yoric
  869. # [15:07] <jcranmer> we got 6" last night
  870. # [15:07] <ttaubert> Yoric: still plenty of time to do that
  871. # [15:08] <jcranmer> feel free to come here
  872. # [15:08] <NeilAway> jcranmer: that's what she said
  873. # [15:08] <Yoric> ttaubert: Sure.
  874. # [15:08] <jcranmer> NeilAway: with her frostbitten lips
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  928. # [15:40] <steve> ok, awesome. vs2013 compile completes & runs ok, 32 bit with those two minor issues above. built & tested on win7/64. minimal testing ofc.
  929. # [15:40] <steve> thanks guys.
  930. # [15:40] <steve> so VC12 section could go on the end of this summary : https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Windows_Prerequisites
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  936. # [15:43] <steve> suggest start-msvc12.bat (above) to build tools.
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  940. # [15:44] <steve> does this want filing in bugzilla or can it just go in. won't break anything as it's an independent script based on previous version.
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  942. # [15:44] <poiru> steve: start-shell-msvc2013.bat is already in the latest (pre-release) mozilla-build.
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  944. # [15:46] <steve> ah - ok. cool. thanks poiru. so just the <algorithm> include above to build trunk. and the parallel build issue (guess that's what it is)
  945. # [15:46] <steve> which will only trip up automated builds. manual builds just a case of running pmake again.
  946. # [15:47] <steve> maybe both those are resolved in pre-release too. don't know.
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  951. # [15:53] <steve> k - outta here. later guys.
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  966. # [16:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/72ec31300662 - Georgiana Chelu - Bug 856426 - Fix warning in /netwerk/sctp/src/user_environment.c. r=jesup
  967. # [16:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a9d9eb8a7d88 - masaya iseki - Bug 945596 - Define getJitCompilerOption to confirm jit-compiler-options. r=nbp, r=h4writer
  968. # [16:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b57aef6724b - Kevin Simons - Bug 951686 - Set the SkBitmapDevice to opaque for BGRX surfaces. r=gwright
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  1435. # [17:02] <jesup> someone around who can give editbugs?
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  1438. # [17:03] <@gavin> jesup: yes
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  1440. # [17:04] <jesup> gavin: can you give editbugs to cruceru.adrian@yahoo.com? Thanks!
  1441. # [17:04] <@gavin> jesup: better yet, someone who can give editbugs-giving
  1442. # [17:04] <@gavin> jesup: you can now give editbugs
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  1444. # [17:04] <jesup> thanks
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  1466. # [17:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5568609fa907 - Luke Wagner - Bug 956402 - OdinMonkey: refactoring: add Float to NumLit (r=bbouvier)
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  1473. # [17:21] <NeilAway> how I wish I could run debug builds, so that I could break whenever a page loads so that I could figure out how to block this stupid flash upgrade required "advert"
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  1477. # [17:23] <NeilAway> but debug builds just seem to run too slowly these days :s
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  1505. # [17:36] <RyanVM> bz: ping
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  1510. # [17:38] <poopjugglar> I am experiencing this strange issue of search bar resetting itself after every nightly updates..
  1511. # [17:39] <poopjugglar> can someone file a bug for it?
  1512. # [17:39] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, oh dear, what'd he do now?
  1513. # [17:39] <Ms2ger> You can
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  1516. # [17:40] <@bz> RyanVM: ack
  1517. # [17:40] <RyanVM> bz: #jsapi :)
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  1519. # [17:40] <@bz> RyanVM: looking
  1520. # [17:40] <kats> smaug: so should i land those WidgetTouchEvent patches? or should i wait for your follow-up patch?
  1521. # [17:40] <kats> smaug: (re bug 952170)
  1522. # [17:40] <poopjugglar> am not sure if its a common bug or just with me
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  1528. # [17:42] <@smaug> kats: just land
  1529. # [17:42] <kats> smaug: ok thanks
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  1568. # [17:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71c810816820 - Dan Gohman - Bug 953120 - IonMonkey: Don't use pushedAtCycle_ when using push/pop. r=jandem
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  1589. # [18:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ffb10cf6138 - Dan Minor - Bug 949538 - Add mach target for cpp unittests; r=gps
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  1597. # [18:17] <jdm> how many languages is firefox available in?
  1598. # [18:18] <Ms2ger> 90-something?
  1599. # [18:18] <Ms2ger> Confidence +/-80 :)
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  1602. # [18:19] <@gavin> jdm: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-release/source/browser/locales/shipped-locales says 90
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  1604. # [18:19] <jdm> thanks!
  1605. # [18:19] <Waldo> C, C++, JS, XUL, CSS, HTML, XML, XBL, text/x-shader, Obj-C, Obj-C++, any else I missed?
  1606. # [18:19] * jdm shows Waldo the door
  1607. # [18:19] <@gavin> though that counts ja twice
  1608. # [18:19] <Mook_as> but http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/ has 81?
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  1611. # [18:19] <Ms2ger> gavin, well, that sure was closer than I'd expected!
  1612. # [18:19] <Mook_as> Waldo: xptcall has various assembly things
  1613. # [18:19] <Waldo> point!
  1614. # [18:20] <jdm> anybody have stats for tunderbird?
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  1616. # [18:20] <KWierso> jdm: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/ has 80 available?
  1617. # [18:20] <Ms2ger> Waldo, SVG?
  1618. # [18:20] <Waldo> point**2
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  1620. # [18:20] <Waldo> I'm sure there are others beyond those, I just ran out of time to be unhelpful
  1621. # [18:21] <@gavin> jdm: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-release/source/mail/locales/shipped-locales
  1622. # [18:21] <Ms2ger> You'll never run out of time to be unhelpful
  1623. # [18:21] <Mook_as> jdm: and http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/all.html has 56 (same count for all-esr)
  1624. # [18:21] <jdm> thanks
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  1721. # [19:13] <@smaug> RyanVM|sheriffduty: You want that patch to ... aurora?
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  1723. # [19:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: yes
  1724. # [19:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> thanks
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  1781. # [19:41] <@ehsan> NeilAway: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=289384#c101 is r- on the patch I had there I assume?
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  1791. # [19:46] <vlad> is running 'firefox -chrome foo.html' enough to access [ChromeOnly] webidl methods?
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  1796. # [19:48] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: how do you push to https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Thunderbird-Trunk?
  1797. # [19:48] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I'm getting a tree closed message
  1798. # [19:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: CLOSED TREE :P
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  1800. # [19:48] <Standard8> ehsan: you're probably hitting SM changes
  1801. # [19:48] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: but the tree is open
  1802. # [19:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it's SM
  1803. # [19:48] <@ehsan> SM changes?
  1804. # [19:48] <@ehsan> oh
  1805. # [19:48] <Standard8> Seamonkey
  1806. # [19:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yep, isn't it grand?
  1807. # [19:48] <@ehsan> so should I ignore it?
  1808. # [19:48] <Standard8> that's been closed like forever
  1809. # [19:48] * RyanVM|sheriffduty looks for Callek
  1810. # [19:49] <@ehsan> o_P
  1811. # [19:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> go for it :P
  1812. # [19:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> doobie doobie doo...
  1813. # [19:49] <@ehsan> so what's the purpose of that hook?
  1814. # [19:49] <Standard8> ehsan: see https://treestatus.mozilla.org/
  1815. # [19:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> to annoy anyone pushign there
  1816. # [19:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> seriously, I don't know of any other reason at this point
  1817. # [19:49] <Callek> Standard8: its closed for different reasons now, but a=me for something that hits SM
  1818. # [19:49] <@ehsan> good
  1819. # [19:49] <Callek> we're mostly fixed all around now, (but tbpl is broken for different reasons --- arg)
  1820. # [19:49] <@ehsan> it did annoy me, so job well done ;)
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  1822. # [19:50] <Callek> ehsan: sorry
  1823. # [19:50] <@ehsan> it's ok
  1824. # [19:50] <@ehsan> this is my biggest comm-central patch ever!
  1825. # [19:50] <@ehsan> \o/
  1826. # [19:50] * @ehsan checks that off of his bucket list
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  1828. # [19:52] <Ms2ger> A true achievement
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  1830. # [19:52] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: it's worth doing once in a lifetime at least!
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  1835. # [19:53] <mbrubeck> RyanVM|sheriffduty: It looks like edmorley's inbound->m-c merge hasn't gone through m-cmerge yet... is something busted, or just oversight? (Sorry if this was already discussed; I'm traveling and don't have backscroll on this device.)
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  1838. # [19:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mbrubeck: good question - maybe he forget
  1839. # [19:54] * RyanVM|sheriffduty had to mark an s-s bug from that merge a little bit ago
  1840. # [19:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i'll run it, looks like he's gone
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  1854. # [19:59] <danieru> fabrice: You mentioned on the email thread we should not expose a installation id to the web, and I think that is right, but what do you think about exposing an id to apps which have access to the telephone api? It should prevent those apps from abusing phone numbers or IMEI into an id.
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  1859. # [20:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mbrubeck: thanks for pointing it out :)
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  1863. # [20:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gps: inbound bustage
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  1872. # [20:09] <fabrice> danieru: maybe, but that's a slippery slope
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  1876. # [20:12] <Gijs> mrbkap: ping?
  1877. # [20:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4cc781fc2721 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 8553d6d258cc (bug 952206) for Windows bustage.
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  1887. # [20:16] <NeilAway> ehsan: well, I didn't want to be that strong; r~ perhaps ;-)
  1888. # [20:17] <NeilAway> vlad: no, -chrome just turns off the browser.xul and loads the file directly in the window
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  1891. # [20:18] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, r bitwise not?
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  1894. # [20:18] <@ehsan> NeilAway: it's ok, just wanted to make sure :)
  1895. # [20:19] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: no, it was supposed to be a sort of "meh" operator
  1896. # [20:19] <vlad> NeilAway: yeah, I put it into a dir and loaded via chrome: URI, that worked :)
  1897. # [20:19] <@ehsan> NeilAway: I'm trying the other approach fwiw
  1898. # [20:19] <KWierso> RyanVM|sheriffduty: what's with all that purple on inbound? :\
  1899. # [20:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/302362be5075 - Patrick McManus - bug 751465 - websockets dns and proxies r=jduell r=bsmedberg
  1900. # [20:19] <NeilAway> ehsan: btw, I'd like to back out http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/diff/c53e80370c9a/gfx/src/nsRegion.h
  1901. # [20:19] <@ehsan> NeilAway: how come?
  1902. # [20:19] <NeilAway> ehsan: I'm now getting that transitively included via nsIWidget.h and LayerTypes.h and that doesn't play nicely outside of libxul
  1903. # [20:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> KWierso: ec2 burps? (the windows masters run there last I knew)
  1904. # [20:20] <@ehsan> oh
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  1906. # [20:20] <KWierso> RyanVM|sheriffduty: <p class="error">exceptions.IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device</p>
  1907. # [20:20] <@ehsan> NeilAway: sorry about that, please do
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  1910. # [20:20] <NeilAway> ehsan: thanks
  1911. # [20:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> KWierso: t-w864-ix-113
  1912. # [20:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> disabling time
  1913. # [20:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mmm, slave health looks purdy
  1914. # [20:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/843d930512db - Sean Stangl - Bug 951439 - Use CallVM for RegExp.exec(). r=h4writer
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  1916. # [20:21] <KWierso> Builder name Start (PST) End (PST) Duration
  1917. # [20:21] <KWierso> 12/31/1969, 8:00:00 AM 12/31/1969, 8:00:00 AM 00:00:00
  1918. # [20:21] <KWierso> :|
  1919. # [20:23] <NeilAway> ehsan: should I clone bug 920073 to make it official?
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  1927. # [20:25] <@ehsan> NeilAway: nah, just land it with no bug r=ehsan
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  1930. # [20:29] <dholbert> bsmedberg, apologies for the rapid r?-cycling
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  1936. # [20:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e04627cb064 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 956449: Remove unused variable in ~RDFXMLDataSourceImpl() to fix build warning. r=bsmedberg
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  1938. # [20:30] <@ehsan> NeilAway: good news, what you suggested seems to work!
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  1941. # [20:31] <ejpbruel> bz_away: ping when available
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  1943. # [20:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ac3f3d1d8201 - Neil Rashbrook - Restore the string header included previous to bug 918923 so that this file can be used with the external string API again (c.f. bug 920073) r=ehsan
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  1945. # [20:32] <@ehsan> gps: you around?
  1946. # [20:32] <NeilAway> ehsan: sorry it took me so long to find an alternative approach
  1947. # [20:32] <@ehsan> NeilAway: I'm glad you did, this is much cleaner now!~
  1948. # [20:32] <@ehsan> I'll flag you for review when I verify that the test passes
  1949. # [20:34] <dholbert> sstangl, bustage on inbound
  1950. # [20:34] <KWierso> RyanVM|sheriffduty: looks like sstangl's push disagrees with something :(
  1951. # [20:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/884a27ad7c5e - Eric Faust - Bug 950407 - Fix broken scripted proxy prototype set forwarding. (r=bholley)
  1952. # [20:34] <dholbert> sstangl, js/src/jit/MCallOptimize.cpp:1130:14: error: no member named 'unwrapArgs' in 'js::jit::CallInfo'
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  1955. # [20:38] <gps> ehsan: yes
  1956. # [20:38] <@ehsan> gps: so, what's the fastest way for me to add a mochitest without spending 1:30 waiting for the mostly no-op ./mach build?
  1957. # [20:39] <gps> ehsan: mach build-backend; make install-tests NO_REMOVE=1
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  1961. # [20:40] <@ehsan> hmm
  1962. # [20:40] <kats> hah. that information should be available via "mach what is the minimal mach command for adding a mochitest"
  1963. # [20:40] <@ehsan> gps: am I the only one who has never heard of either of the two commands? :)
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  1965. # [20:40] <@ehsan> was this announced somewhere?
  1966. # [20:41] * @ehsan resists the urge to talk about our no-op build times again...
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  1968. # [20:41] <gps> kats: I can add that to the docs...
  1969. # [20:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d10eb10bfd0b - Mark Hammond - Bug 907689 - Use example.org as the blocklist URL. r=mixedpuppy, a=test-only
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  1971. # [20:42] <bz_away> How about adding a mach install-tests ?
  1972. # [20:42] <bz_away> Which does the above
  1973. # [20:42] <kats> gps: :) i'm fine with waiting for 1:30 if it saves me docs lookup time
  1974. # [20:42] <bz_away> or mach update-tests or whatnot
  1975. # [20:43] <kats> there's a balance between having one command that does everything and takes forever and a lot of commands that do specific things but you have to look up every time
  1976. # [20:44] <Ms2ger> gps, doesn't mach mochitest do that?
  1977. # [20:44] <gps> some of the mach testing commands install the tests before running
  1978. # [20:45] <Ms2ger> gps, did I already r? you on the imptests patches, btw?
  1979. # [20:45] <gps> xpcshell-test will do that
  1980. # [20:45] <tbsaunde> kats: yeah, but if you design the commands right you shouldn't have to do lookup
  1981. # [20:45] <gps> oh, mach mochitest commands will install tests automatically as well
  1982. # [20:46] <gps> i believe some people were complaining about that being too slow on windows though :(
  1983. # [20:46] <kats> tbsaunde: perhaps. i'm not arguing against having the commands. i'm just saying i will likely never use it
  1984. # [20:46] <kats> but hey, MEINU
  1985. # [20:46] * crypt|away is now known as crypt
  1986. # [20:46] <kats> (repurposing nnethercote's YEINU)
  1987. # [20:46] <Ms2ger> ehsan, so it seems: just run the test
  1988. # [20:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/39a514870dd3 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 843d930512db (bug 951439) for bustage.
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  1990. # [20:47] <@ehsan> gps: so I can just modify mochitest.ini and run ./mach mochitest?
  1991. # [20:47] <jviereck> hi, I am writing a xul/chrome test. Is there a way to attach the debugger before the test starts running?
  1992. # [20:47] <jviereck> debugger = JS debugger
  1993. # [20:47] <Ms2ger> jviereck, ./mach foo-test --debugger=gdb?
  1994. # [20:47] <Ms2ger> .. oh
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  1998. # [20:48] <jviereck> Ms2ger: I could do the actual test stuff after some setTimeout and in the meantime try to get hold of the debugger and set a breakpoint - but I hopped there is a better way ^^
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  2001. # [20:50] <gps> ehsan: yes
  2002. # [20:50] <@ehsan> gps: that's great! I wonder how many people know about that
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  2004. # [20:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b997d2cce0eb - Andrew McCreight - Bug 956455, part 3 - Remove the holder argument to nsXPConnect::WrapNativeToJSVal. r=gabor
  2005. # [20:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b139d0427aa - Andrew McCreight - Bug 956455, part 1 - WrapNative's holder argument is unnecessary. r=smaug
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  2007. # [20:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d322f50268de - Andrew McCreight - Bug 956423 - Remove unused variables from nsXBLProtoImpl::InstallImplementation and InitTargetObjects. r=bholley
  2008. # [20:51] <@ehsan> gps: where are these docs btw?
  2009. # [20:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c25ee7b8c185 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 956569 - Make nsContentUtils::WrapNative MOZ_WARN_UNUSED_RESULT. r=smaug
  2010. # [20:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d406909e132 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 956455, part 2 - Remove holder argument from WrapNativeToJSVal nsDOMClassInfo. r=smaug
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  2043. # [21:03] <josh> Curious - how many others still find mxr as or more helpful than dxr?
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  2048. # [21:04] <@khuey> does DXR actually work yet?
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  2056. # [21:04] <nrc> Ms2ger: why?
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  2058. # [21:05] <nrc> khuey: usually, needs a kick after the holiday right now
  2059. # [21:05] <Callek> josh: I can't use dxr yet, so I *always* use mxr
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  2061. # [21:05] <Ms2ger> nrc, dxr just always feels clunky when I use it
  2062. # [21:05] <Callek> josh: multiple reasons for me, largest being that dxr doesn't support grouping multiple repos together for a *non compile* job -- (e.g. I work in releng which has lots of python/shell/puppet repos to work in)
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  2064. # [21:06] <Callek> and doing anything searching/file-finding/etc in dxr even for m-c felt clunky/painful so far.... so I'd need at least my work product in dxr to evaluate where it misses the mark
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  2068. # [21:07] <josh> I was wondering because I find mxr to be quite superior but we keep pointing people, on wikis and new folks in irc, to dxr. Thought perhaps I hadn't caught on to something others had, but maybe that is not the case. Maybe we should just be careful to point people primarily to mxr still.
  2069. # [21:07] <nrc> Ms2ger: maybe habit? I used to feel the same way, but adjusted and now MXR feels awful
  2070. # [21:07] <gps> ehsan: https://ci.mozilla.org/job/mozilla-central-docs/Tree_Documentation/index.html
  2071. # [21:07] <mt> dxr seems nicer
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  2074. # [21:08] <Ms2ger> dxr is a good idea in theory
  2075. # [21:08] <nrc> josh: why superior? DXR has clear advantages due to the static analysis it does, MXR is really just grep with a UI
  2076. # [21:08] <@ehsan> hmm
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  2079. # [21:08] <Ms2ger> nrc, grep with a UI is what I usually need :)
  2080. # [21:08] <@ehsan> gps: https://ci.mozilla.org/job/mozilla-central-docs/Tree_Documentation/buildsystem/test_manifests.html doesn't mention anything about that...
  2081. # [21:08] <Callek> nrc: not everyone needs/wants static analysis search
  2082. # [21:08] <nrc> heh
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  2085. # [21:09] <@ehsan> also, there are some errors in the docs, is this a wiki?
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  2088. # [21:09] <@ehsan> (doesn't look like it)
  2089. # [21:09] <josh> nrc: I have looked at lists of dxf advantages, seems cool, but at the end of the day I get the results I want from mxr and not from dxr
  2090. # [21:09] <nrc> Callek: true, I hope DXR can get to parity with MXR for that too. That has been one of the goals for a while
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  2092. # [21:09] <@ehsan> oh this is the in-tree docs thing isn't it?
  2093. # [21:10] <@smaug> mxr tends to do the work better and faster. And the few cases I've needed something mxr can't provide but dxr in theory could, dxr has failed.
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  2095. # [21:10] <nrc> josh: do you have a specific example?
  2096. # [21:10] <Callek> nrc: also dxr doesn't do even attempts at syntax highlighting for anything that isn't compiled code, iirc, bash, make, python, perl, ...
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  2098. # [21:10] <gps> ehsan: build/docs in the tree
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  2100. # [21:11] <gps> ehsan: irc r? me
  2101. # [21:11] <josh> nrc: not off the top of my head, but I find dxr the most frustrating when I'm looking for the implementation of a method, I think
  2102. # [21:11] <gps> mach build-docs
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  2104. # [21:11] <@ehsan> some other day hopefully
  2105. # [21:11] <nrc> Callek: we should fix that - it is possible, e.g., JS gets syntax highlighting. It's a bug if other langs don't
  2106. # [21:12] <@ehsan> I don't wanna learn a new way to write docs today ;)
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  2110. # [21:13] <nrc> josh: I fear a lot of the advantages of MXR are subtle UX things that I don't have a good handle on. It certainyl took me longer to get used to DXR than MXR. I'm keen to get examples of ways to improve DXR. Often they are quite easy things to change, but needs noticing
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  2112. # [21:13] <josh> nrc: Do you work on dxr?
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  2114. # [21:13] <krit> roc: ping
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  2117. # [21:14] <nrc> josh: I find 'jump to definition' on a method name gets the impl most of the time
  2118. # [21:14] <nrc> josh: yes, but for fun, it is not my job
  2119. # [21:14] <josh> nrc: so I should search for a method, then click on any example of it and click 'jump to definition'?
  2120. # [21:14] <Ms2ger> nrc, one thing I guess is that I've got three ways into mxr (string search, file name, identifier search) that I understand well, and I don't know what the single search box on bxr does
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  2123. # [21:15] <nrc> josh: if there is a single def, then just typing the name and hitting enter will jump to the def, otherwise, yes
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  2125. # [21:15] <nrc> we should streamline that
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  2127. # [21:15] <josh> nrc: There's a good example of a UI issue - that wasn't clear to me. MXR just separates them out usually. It doesn't do a great job at that, but it does alright.
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  2129. # [21:15] <kats> nrc: what do i have to search for in dxr to find nsPresShell::Paint?
  2130. # [21:16] <kats> (see bug 850261)
  2131. # [21:16] <nrc> josh: others are working on a UI refresh for DXR, I think separating out defs etc. will be part of that. If not it is something I want to address
  2132. # [21:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bjacob: ping
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  2134. # [21:17] <josh> cool, thanks for your help on it, I hope dxr turns out well
  2135. # [21:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> or BenWa: ping
  2136. # [21:18] <BenWa> I haven't landed anything yet!
  2137. # [21:18] <BenWa> pong
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  2139. # [21:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> BenWa: was wondering if I could bug you for a quick r+ on a webgl bug - bug 777574
  2140. # [21:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> been waiting for nearly a month on that review
  2141. # [21:18] <BenWa> looking
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  2146. # [21:19] <nrc> Ms2ger: I guess it tries to do all three, the latter two only if you hit enter (which is not cool UI)
  2147. # [21:19] <nrc> kats: nsPresShell::Paint doesn't exist, searching for PresShell::Paint seems to work
  2148. # [21:20] <@smaug> kats: yeah, that kinds of basic things make use of dxr pretty difficult
  2149. # [21:20] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: pong, BenWa is reassigning review to me
  2150. # [21:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bjacob: wfm, thanks :)
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  2152. # [21:20] <@smaug> aha
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  2156. # [21:20] <kats> doh
  2157. # [21:20] <bjacob> RyanVM|sheriffduty: r+
  2158. # [21:20] <Ms2ger> nrc, that's not helpful, imo :)
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  2160. # [21:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bjacob: thanks :)
  2161. # [21:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/643150e6bb9d - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 956783 - Stop using NULL in Fennec's JNI code; r=jchen
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  2166. # [21:22] <Ms2ger> ehsan, I thought they were all gone? :)
  2167. # [21:22] <@smaug> blame doesn't work nicely. If you are in line #xyz in dxr, blame doesn't scroll to that
  2168. # [21:22] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: let's pretend they are now ;)
  2169. # [21:22] <nrc> Ms2ger: yeah, we can do better. I hope the UI refresh is an improvement
  2170. # [21:22] <@ehsan> smaug: file a bug on that please?
  2171. # [21:23] <@smaug> file search doesn't seem to work
  2172. # [21:23] <@smaug> or I don't know how to use it
  2173. # [21:23] <@ehsan> just type in the file name
  2174. # [21:23] <@ehsan> or, path:foo.cpp
  2175. # [21:23] <@smaug> just typing the file name doesn't work
  2176. # [21:23] <@ehsan> it doesn't?
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  2178. # [21:23] <nrc> smaug: it should
  2179. # [21:23] <@ehsan> smaug: it works for me
  2180. # [21:23] <nrc> wfm
  2181. # [21:23] <@smaug> I type nsDOMEvent.cpp
  2182. # [21:23] <@ehsan> smaug: oh, you should press Enter when done :)
  2183. # [21:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/68af74aa746b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 777574 - Skip quickCheckAPI-B2.html on Linux. r=bjacob
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  2185. # [21:24] <@smaug> exactly
  2186. # [21:24] <@ehsan> super obvious ;)
  2187. # [21:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/add56cded78f - Kevin Grandon - Bug 949242 - [inter-app-comm-api] Wrongly filters out messages when the page has a hash. r=gene, r=fabrice
  2188. # [21:24] <@smaug> ehsan: so it doesn't work
  2189. # [21:24] <@smaug> it is not in the search results
  2190. # [21:24] <@ehsan> smaug: please file a bug for that too
  2191. # [21:24] * @smaug keeps using mxr and waits for another year :)
  2192. # [21:24] <@smaug> and then retries dxr
  2193. # [21:25] <jdm> smaug: it went straight to nsdomevent.cpp for me
  2194. # [21:25] <jdm> but yes, not in the results
  2195. # [21:25] <@ehsan> smaug: it would be nice if you gave that a bit more try this time around
  2196. # [21:25] <jdm> interesting
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  2199. # [21:25] <@ehsan> it's quite usable these days for the most part
  2200. # [21:25] <nrc> josh, kats, smaug. Ms2ger: please file bugs for either specific broken things or things you don't like, there are a few people working on it so it can get better. More user input would be great
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  2205. # [21:26] * @smaug still wonders why we didn't spend time on mxr
  2206. # [21:26] <@ehsan> smaug: spend time on it doing what?
  2207. # [21:26] <@smaug> konigsberg had some quite nice features
  2208. # [21:26] <@smaug> ehsan: improving it
  2209. # [21:26] <@ehsan> well
  2210. # [21:26] <@smaug> it has taken ages to get dxr to the same level as mxr
  2211. # [21:26] <@smaug> in usability
  2212. # [21:26] <@ehsan> dxr is not a glorified mxr
  2213. # [21:26] <nrc> once you get used to the static analysis features, you will never want to go back
  2214. # [21:27] <@ehsan> it's totally different from the ground up
  2215. # [21:27] <nrc> (or at least that is my experience)
  2216. # [21:27] <@smaug> I know
  2217. # [21:27] <nrc> (which obviously ought to be universal :-p )
  2218. # [21:27] <@ehsan> I have no reason to expect it would be easier to start with mxr and build dxr out of it
  2219. # [21:27] <Callek> ehsan: nrc: except its not usable for the vast majority of people, just because it has static analysis improvements doesn't mean its usability exists
  2220. # [21:27] <@smaug> but in practice mxr works pretty well, so far better than dxr
  2221. # [21:27] <@ehsan> Callek: file bugs! it won't get more usable if people just complain on irc :)
  2222. # [21:27] <jdm> mhoye++
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  2224. # [21:28] <Ms2ger> ehsan, so if it's not a glorified mxr, does that mean it doesn't need feature parity?
  2225. # [21:28] <nrc> Callek: but it should be easier to make DXR more usable than to add static analysis to MXR
  2226. # [21:28] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: it does and people have been working on that
  2227. # [21:28] <Ms2ger> Great
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  2229. # [21:28] <Callek> ehsan: last call for usability/bugs was responded to with me asking to put my teams repos on it, to which I was told "we only support compiled things right now, try again later"
  2230. # [21:28] <Callek> ehsan: I can't reliably file bugs or reasonably give feedback on a day-to-day basis if I'm not able to use it for my day-to-day needs
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  2232. # [21:28] <@ehsan> Callek: what's the teams repo?
  2233. # [21:29] <Callek> ehsan: build/ e.g. hg.mozilla.org/build/*
  2234. # [21:29] <nrc> Callek: support for multiple tree is coming in the next month or two
  2235. # [21:29] <@ehsan> smaug: I find that very hard to believe
  2236. # [21:29] <nrc> Callek it should then be 'easy' to add many more repos
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  2238. # [21:29] <@ehsan> yeah
  2239. # [21:29] <Callek> nrc: well build/* for us also needs to be included under the same search/info
  2240. # [21:29] <@ehsan> that need multi-tree support
  2241. # [21:29] <Callek> so we can search and see it all, since all our repos need to interact
  2242. # [21:29] <@ehsan> we support non-compiled things just fine ;)
  2243. # [21:30] <@smaug> ehsan: I was just going to say about multi-tree
  2244. # [21:30] <nrc> smaug: give it a couple of months
  2245. # [21:30] <@smaug> can't use dxr without the all the data ...from cvs times
  2246. # [21:30] <@ehsan> smaug: multi-tree support is being worked on, but in single tree mode dxr should work much better than mxr right now, except for the small (but perhaps annoying) bugs
  2247. # [21:30] <nrc> Callek: we ought to be able to do that, pleas efile a bug, once we have multi-tree support, we should be able to do it
  2248. # [21:31] <Ms2ger> Does it have go-back-to-arbitrary-revision yet?
  2249. # [21:31] <Callek> nrc: I'll revisit in a few months sure!
  2250. # [21:31] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: not iirc
  2251. # [21:31] <nrc> Ms2ger: no, it just has links on the top right
  2252. # [21:31] <Ms2ger> Feel free to file a bug on that :)
  2253. # [21:31] <nrc> Ms2ger: it's on my radar as something to work on, but probably not for a month or two
  2254. # [21:31] <Callek> nrc: ehsan: forgive pessimism but with dxr topics I get consistently "not yet, but soon, we're working on it" type answers, and don't recall ever seeing any of said things done :-P
  2255. # [21:32] <Callek> either way, I love it conceptually
  2256. # [21:32] <@smaug> ++Callek
  2257. # [21:32] <@ehsan> Callek: well, the reason dxr exists is for C++ code
  2258. # [21:32] <mhoye> jdm: thanks!
  2259. # [21:32] <@ehsan> Callek: so it's not fair to complain why it's not optimized for your use case
  2260. # [21:32] <mhoye> I think?
  2261. # [21:32] <Callek> ehsan: except I'm told it is intended to completely replace and obsolete mxr at every turn
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  2263. # [21:32] <Callek> ehsan: so if it can't replace mxr for my use case then its failed
  2264. # [21:32] <nrc> Callek: my impression has been that momentum for DXR goes very much in fits and starts, right now there seems to be good energy and people actually paid to work on it, so I am more optimistic than I have been
  2265. # [21:33] <@ehsan> Callek: yes it is, but if you expect the non-C++ bits to be finished *first* you'll be up for disappointment
  2266. # [21:33] <@ehsan> good news is that those parts have largely been finished now
  2267. # [21:33] <nrc> I think it should work for non-C++ stuff, it is definitely meant to be language independent
  2268. # [21:34] <Callek> ehsan: the initial driving force behind dxr was for C++ code, and sure, happy for that... but when I'm told mxr is being deprecated now, and dxr should be useable *now* for everything mxr, I'm gonna call people out on that :-P
  2269. # [21:34] <nrc> but yeah,. lower priority
  2270. # [21:34] <@ehsan> nrc: it does, it just doesn't give you all of the niceties that it does in C++
  2271. # [21:34] * Callek isn't quite saying you are, but yea, others have.
  2272. # [21:34] <@ehsan> Callek: who told you that?
  2273. # [21:34] <@smaug> wait, dxr doesn't have any .js?
  2274. # [21:34] <@ehsan> smaug: it has all of the things
  2275. # [21:34] <nrc> .me thinks adding static analysis for JS to DXR would be really a great deal of fun
  2276. # [21:34] * Callek wishes he kept IRC logs for questions like this
  2277. # [21:34] <@smaug> ah, it has
  2278. # [21:34] <@ehsan> smaug: it just won't give you static analysis on js
  2279. # [21:34] <jdm> mhoye: I really like the eye-tracking research your posted
  2280. # [21:35] <@bsmedberg> didn't webeng post something about what it would take to stop supporting MXR and only do DXR?
  2281. # [21:35] <@smaug> ehsan: does it find stuff in .js files
  2282. # [21:35] <@ehsan> Callek: ok, so please take my word when I say it's being worked on and not complete yet
  2283. # [21:35] <nrc> smaug: yes
  2284. # [21:35] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: they surely did
  2285. # [21:35] <@ehsan> smaug: yes it does
  2286. # [21:35] * @bsmedberg kinda hates DXR, wonders if it would be better with noscript
  2287. # [21:35] <@ehsan> smaug: see, this tells me you haven't really given dxr a chance yet :P
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  2290. # [21:36] <@smaug> ehsan: because it is so hard to use...
  2291. # [21:36] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: please file bugs on those hate points :)
  2292. # [21:36] <nrc> bsmedberg: I suspect it would be much worse
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  2294. # [21:36] <@ehsan> smaug: if you email me a list of things which prevents you from using it, I'd be happy to file those bugs
  2295. # [21:36] <@ehsan> not sure what more I can do here
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  2297. # [21:36] <Callek> ehsan: tldr; is the static analysis part is the driving factor and the hardest part, and awesome that it works -- usability (imho) is lacking even for the cpp needs [e.g. when I work on seamonkey] at least from the perspective of someone who has used mxr for years. -- And I have been told promises when it comes to dxr repeatedly that I have not [personally] seen manifest.... but the effort...
  2298. # [21:36] <Callek> ...is intriguing a great concept and I can't wait to see it fleshed out such that it can replace MXR for me
  2299. # [21:37] <@smaug> how do I make simple searches
  2300. # [21:37] <@smaug> like "interface EventTarget"
  2301. # [21:37] <@smaug> mxr returns just what I want
  2302. # [21:37] <@ehsan> Callek: all I'm saying is that it's very hard for the people who are working on it to read our minds to figure out what to fix if all people do is complain and not file bugs!
  2303. # [21:37] <nrc> smaug: type 'EventTarget', hit enter
  2304. # [21:37] <nrc> ehsan++
  2305. # [21:38] <@smaug> nrc: I want "interface EventTarget"
  2306. # [21:38] <@smaug> that exact string
  2307. # [21:38] <@ehsan> smaug: this is something that I've complained before about actually
  2308. # [21:38] <@smaug> aha, "" is needed
  2309. # [21:38] <@ehsan> smaug: by default DXR does an OR query, and I think that's wrong
  2310. # [21:38] <Callek> ehsan: that much we can both agree on --- I would love a UX engineer/expert to give it a run through and give a prioritized list of targets/issues though, is one of my things -- since when I'm not a UX expert, I can't do much more than present my use case and why DXR doesn't meet it
  2311. # [21:38] <@smaug> ehsan: yes, that feels wrong
  2312. # [21:39] <nrc> smaug, ehsan: agreed
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  2315. # [21:39] <@ehsan> Callek: presenting that use case is all I ask for here
  2316. # [21:39] <Callek> wonderful!
  2317. # [21:39] <@ehsan> smaug: I'll file another bug about it, can't find the old one
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  2320. # [21:41] <@ehsan> Callek: please file bikeshedding bugs too, they are very valuable
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  2322. # [21:42] <Unfocused> but i want a scooter shed :(
  2323. # [21:42] <@ehsan> Unfocused: sorry, scooter bugs will be categorically WONTFIXed ;)
  2324. # [21:43] <mhoye> jdm: Yeah, took a big of digging.
  2325. # [21:43] <Unfocused> DESCRIMINATION!
  2326. # [21:43] <Callek> unicycle?
  2327. # [21:43] <Ms2ger> Only in the snow, with an umbrella
  2328. # [21:44] <@ehsan> heresy!
  2329. # [21:44] <Unfocused> Ms2ger++
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  2402. # [22:12] <Waldo> RyanVM|sheriffduty: does the merge tool decide when to in-testsuite+, or what? bug 953296 will have tests as part of it, and the little prerequisite bits that landed have tests, but it seems wrong to in-testsuite+ the bug when the actual meat with its tests hasn't landed
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  2404. # [22:13] <RyanVM> no, it's manual
  2405. # [22:13] <RyanVM> sorry, my bad
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  2408. # [22:13] <Waldo> eh, happens
  2409. # [22:14] <Waldo> I went justifiably test-crazy for a whole bunch of parts of that bug
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  2412. # [22:16] <Waldo> gps: actually I was kind of more thinking of the build system having a pluggable interface for adding extra mach commands, or something, and the top-level thing would source in the mozwebidlcodegen stuff where anything JS-level wouldn't -- as far as a somewhat cleaner fix might go
  2413. # [22:17] <Waldo> gps: just to be clear, at least
  2414. # [22:17] <Waldo> the plugginess stuff could easily be more effort than it's worth
  2415. # [22:17] <Waldo> but then again, I don't know how much is involved in hooking up mozwebidlcodegen stuff to the system now
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  2418. # [22:20] <gps> Waldo: just copy dom/bindings/mozwebidlcodegen into the SM package
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  2420. # [22:20] <gps> ditto for every other Python package/module used by the build system
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  2422. # [22:21] <@khuey> gps: I responded to your 401k thread
  2423. # [22:21] <gps> khuey: lovely. I was going to ask you to chime in :)
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  2427. # [22:22] <@khuey> gps: I'm not aware of any legal reason that the safe harbor contribution cannot be made throughout the year
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  2436. # [22:26] <RyanVM> gps: glad I'm not the only one who found it peculiar that it's done in one lump instead of on each paycheck
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  2444. # [22:27] <@khuey> time to land
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  2447. # [22:28] <kats> RyanVM: is tracking-fennec: 27+ sufficient to get patches uplifted?
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  2449. # [22:28] <RyanVM> no
  2450. # [22:28] <RyanVM> needs approval
  2451. # [22:28] <kats> ok thanks
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  2453. # [22:28] <RyanVM> np
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  2476. # [22:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/af3446d09db4 - ffxbld - Added FENNEC_27_0b4_RELEASE FENNEC_27_0b4_BUILD1 tag(s) for changeset da9ce9ea0d96. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
  2477. # [22:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/da9ce9ea0d96 - ffxbld - Automated checkin: version bump for fennec 27.0b4 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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  2481. # [22:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8b831f53a5e3 - ffxbld - Automated checkin: version bump for firefox 27.0b4 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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  2488. # [22:47] <@bsmedberg> does anyone know when we stopped supporting win98?
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  2491. # [22:48] <nthomas> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/webtools/aus/xml/inc/config-dist.php#515 says 3.0
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  2494. # [22:49] <nthomas> that's the ausN.m.o config file
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  2503. # [22:52] <@njn> RyanVM: do changes to the TBPL repo get seen by the staging instance immediately?
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  2505. # [22:52] <RyanVM> it runs on a cron job ~15min or so
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  2510. # [22:53] <@njn> RyanVM: any way to tell for sure, or should I just wait and hope?
  2511. # [22:53] <RyanVM> wait
  2512. # [22:53] <@njn> ok, thanks
  2513. # [22:53] <RyanVM> yw :)
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  2530. # [22:58] <Waldo> jgilbert: you don't want to look at the gfx/thebes parts, then?
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  2533. # [22:58] * Waldo can find someone else easily enough, certainly
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  2542. # [23:01] <nthomas> RyanVM: could use https://tbpl-dev.allizom.org/cache/revision_info.txt
  2543. # [23:01] <RyanVM> ah, neat
  2544. # [23:01] <RyanVM> didn't even know that was there :)
  2545. # [23:01] <RyanVM> njn ^
  2546. # [23:02] <nthomas> so now you need a job that finishes after that's been picked up ?
  2547. # [23:02] <@njn> nthomas: ah, thank! And yay, looks like my change has made it to the staging instance?
  2548. # [23:02] <RyanVM> looks like it :)
  2549. # [23:02] <@njn> nthomas: now I will do some try pushes
  2550. # [23:03] * nthomas has no actual idea what the code is doing ;-)
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  2552. # [23:03] <@njn> nthomas: and look at allizom
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  2557. # [23:04] <jgilbert> Waldo, I'll check
  2558. # [23:05] <Waldo> all the s/ScopedDeletePtr/UniquePtr/ changes are trivial, pretty much
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  2561. # [23:05] <Waldo> it'll be the ones not using plain old new/delete or new[]/delete[] that will require more care
  2562. # [23:05] <Waldo> ScopedDeletePtr/Array is by definition those easy cases
  2563. # [23:06] <jgilbert> Waldo, gfxASurface changes look fine to me, but I don't know that code well
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  2566. # [23:06] <Waldo> jgilbert: neither do I, but the allocator/deallocator matching issues there seem clear enough for it not to matter, to me :-)
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  2573. # [23:08] <jgilbert> Waldo, alright, looks fine then :)
  2574. # [23:08] <Waldo> cool
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  2576. # [23:08] <Waldo> now to get UniquePtr itself reviewed
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  2596. # [23:16] <@njn> bholley: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3954068
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  2603. # [23:21] <RyanVM> briansmith: did you mean to land that on the relbranch?
  2604. # [23:22] <briansmith> RyanVM: no. no I did not
  2605. # [23:22] <RyanVM> ok, just checking :)
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  2616. # [23:28] <briansmith> RyanVM: fixed, see: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/graph/
  2617. # [23:28] <RyanVM> thanks :)
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  2624. # [23:32] <@njn> RyanVM: if the TBPL staging instance uses the live trees, does that mean we run every push job twice?
  2625. # [23:32] <RyanVM> no
  2626. # [23:32] <Ms2ger> njn, tbpl doesn't run anything
  2627. # [23:32] <RyanVM> just means it pulls from the same data source
  2628. # [23:33] <@njn> RyanVM: TBPL must process the job output?
  2629. # [23:33] <RyanVM> parsing logs and such? I suppose
  2630. # [23:33] <RyanVM> not that tbpl-dev is exactly widely used
  2631. # [23:33] <@njn> RyanVM: I sure hope so; that's what my patch changes, and what I'm trying
  2632. # [23:34] <@njn> RyanVM: whether or not it's widely used, if it's doing stuff for every push then it's duplicating work; but if that amount of work is small that's not so bad
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  2634. # [23:34] <RyanVM> but "running every push job twice" makes it sound like you think it's doing duplicate builds/tests, which it certainly is not
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  2636. # [23:34] <@njn> gotcha
  2637. # [23:34] <@njn> thanks
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  2639. # [23:35] <RyanVM> it does run a separate database (i.e. starring on tbpl-dev won't show up on the live instance)
  2640. # [23:35] <@roc> krit: pong
  2641. # [23:36] <RyanVM> not sure how much of the other backend work is shared. I know most if it comes from the releng side of things, so it's just both pulling from the same source as needed
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  2646. # [23:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2c5fcba9480c - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 950550. Test. r=jrmuizel
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