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12. # [00:09] <dmajor> ehsan: ping
13. # [00:09] <@ehsan> dmajor: hi
14. # [00:09] <tbsaunde> is try busted or something? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=1a4876c761c9 doesn't load for me
15. # [00:09] <dmajor> ehsan: hi. do you know how many more unified build changes are still upcoming?
16. # [00:09] <Callek> tbsaunde: wfm
17. # [00:10] <@ehsan> dmajor: I'm not planning on doing much more at the moment
18. # [00:10] <@ehsan> why do you ask?
19. # [00:10] <@gavin> Pike: re: rdf module ownership, I think you should just go ahead and update the wiki and ask for forgiveness on governance, rather than blocking on it
20. # [00:10] <@gavin> seems pretty straightforward and unobjectionable
21. # [00:10] <dmajor> ehsan: for context, in bug 951863 it looks like relatively innocuous build changes are totally confusing windows PGO
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24. # [00:11] * @ehsan looks
25. # [00:11] <tbsaunde> Callek: yeah, me too now...
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28. # [00:13] <@ehsan> hmm
29. # [00:13] <@ehsan> dmajor: but there must be a reason for this...
30. # [00:14] <Pike> gavin: yeah, but I'm also not under time pressure. A day or two, and I'll march ahead. There's enough stuff to do in the meantime coming back from the holidays ;-)
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32. # [00:14] <dmajor> ehsan: if(tooMuchCode) optimizer.GiveUp() ?
33. # [00:14] <@ehsan> dmajor: also, I note that in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=951863#c7 you've run the talos tests only once on each build
34. # [00:14] <@ehsan> you need to run them ~10 times or so to account for the noise in general
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36. # [00:15] <dmajor> ehsan: I didn't look at the talos numbers, I grabbed the bits and ran local tests
37. # [00:15] <dmajor> under a profiler and everything
38. # [00:16] <@ehsan> dmajor: I really doubt they have that code
39. # [00:16] <@ehsan> plus
40. # [00:16] <@ehsan> we've been adding/removing stuff from unified builds pretty loosely
41. # [00:16] <@ehsan> this must be something special about nsDebugImpl.cpp
42. # [00:16] <@ehsan> yeah, hence "in general" in my comment :)
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44. # [00:16] <@ehsan> dmajor: can you try "bisecting" nsDebugImpl.cpp?
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46. # [00:17] <@ehsan> i.e., adding half of it to the unified build, see what happens, etc?
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49. # [00:18] <dmajor> ehsan: sounds pretty painful, in theory it could be 2^n in the number of functions
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52. # [00:18] <@ehsan> dmajor: no, should be lg(n)
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55. # [00:19] <dmajor> ehsan: I don't think you can expect to take contiguous chunks in the typical bisect manner. What if the problem arises only when you unify foo and bar, where they are from different parts of the file?
56. # [00:20] <@ehsan> well
57. # [00:20] <@ehsan> that _could_ be the case
58. # [00:20] <@ehsan> but we don't know that yet...
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65. # [00:20] <@ehsan> dmajor: how about this, start to move some big funcs out of nsDebugImpl.cpp
66. # [00:20] <@ehsan> ones that affect opt builds
67. # [00:20] <@ehsan> such as Break()
68. # [00:21] <@ehsan> NS_DebugBreak()
69. # [00:21] <@ehsan> etc
70. # [00:21] <dmajor> ehsan: the other thing is that we've seen transitions between good build and bad builds from changes besides nsdebugimpl
71. # [00:21] <@ehsan> and unify the rest
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73. # [00:21] <@ehsan> oh wait
74. # [00:21] <@ehsan> wut?
75. # [00:22] <@ehsan> yeah
76. # [00:23] <@ehsan> sorry I didn't read the bug closely enough
77. # [00:23] <@ehsan> so the thing is, unification actually makes the obj files that the PGO compiler sees smaller
78. # [00:24] <dmajor> smaller in total or smaller individually?
79. # [00:25] <@ehsan> the former
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81. # [00:25] <dmajor> ok, yeah, I believe that. but individually they get much larger, right?
82. # [00:26] <@ehsan> yes
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85. # [00:28] <dmajor> I wonder if that causes problems. We push the linker's limits in other ways already :)
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87. # [00:29] <@ehsan> dmajor: but can you think of a plausible edge case we might be hitting?
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90. # [00:30] <@ehsan> inlining decisions are usually made based on the functions under consideration, not the object file
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93. # [00:32] <dmajor> I would hope so, yes
94. # [00:32] <dmajor> but this whole bug is about pgo not behaving as we would hope :)
95. # [00:32] <@ehsan> hmm
96. # [00:32] <@ehsan> I don't know what to say! :)
97. # [00:33] <dmajor> well in the best case, this issue never flares up again, and we're all happy
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99. # [00:33] <dmajor> I was just wondering how likely it is to come back
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102. # [00:35] <@ehsan> given that we don't really know what caused it, who can say? :(
103. # [00:37] <@ted> sounds like we're just hovering near some threshold
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105. # [00:37] <@ted> but all of PGO is a big black box :-/
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109. # [00:38] <dmajor> input: magical incantations, animal sacrifices. output: slightly faster code
110. # [00:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/6f4005142a90 - Lukas Blakk - Post Beta 4 disable EARLY_BETA_OR_EARLIER a=release-mgmt
111. # [00:39] <NeilAway> RyanVM|afk: hmm, that reftest failure is interesting... it looks like the test was compared before it had finished loading :s
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113. # [00:42] <NeilAway> RyanVM|afk: the dead giveaway is that the failure is different from a failure from not having the C++ changes
114. # [00:43] <glandium> lsblakk: you didn't disable EARLY_BETA_OR_EARLIER with that change
115. # [00:43] <lsblakk> glandium: no?
116. # [00:43] <glandium> lsblakk: no
117. # [00:43] <lsblakk> oh, there's a mozconfig component?
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119. # [00:43] <glandium> lsblakk: hint: the 1 could be "early_beta_or_earlier"
120. # [00:44] <NeilAway> RyanVM|afk: who can I talk to about troubleshooting?
121. # [00:44] <glandium> lsblakk: that is, having a value, even 0, is positive
122. # [00:44] <lsblakk> oh i see
123. # [00:44] <lsblakk> it needs to be EARLY_BETA_OR_EARLIER=
124. # [00:44] <lsblakk> not 0 or 1
125. # [00:45] <glandium> or delete the like
126. # [00:45] <glandium> line
127. # [00:45] <lsblakk> hm
128. # [00:45] <lsblakk> k
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137. # [00:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/eb135653c9c4 - Lukas Blakk - Removes the value for define EARLY_BETA_OR_EARLIER a=release-mgmt
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145. # [00:52] <glandium> lsblakk: now, the problem you'll have is that unless there's someone putting the value back to something after the 28 merge, it's going to stay empty
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147. # [00:52] <lsblakk> glandium: how's that - isn't it set to 1 on Aurora?
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150. # [00:53] <glandium> lsblakk: depends how we merge
151. # [00:53] <lsblakk> it's on central and aurora
152. # [00:53] <heycam> tree looks good to open now?
153. # [00:53] <lsblakk> afaik we will overwrite m-b with the aurora version of this file
154. # [00:53] <glandium> with a standard hg merge, since the file hasn't changed, it will stay with what is on beta
155. # [00:53] <lsblakk> since at merge time i know i have to revert changes to l10n files
156. # [00:53] <lsblakk> it's not a standard merge
157. # [00:53] <lsblakk> we pull in from a tag
158. # [00:54] <lsblakk> pretty sure we overwrite
159. # [00:54] <lsblakk> that's how many changes have bubbled up in the past
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166. # [00:55] <glandium> lsblakk: then it should be fine
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173. # [01:01] <lsblakk> :)
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181. # [01:06] <KWierso|sheriffduty> heycam: promise you won't break it? :)
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183. # [01:06] <heycam> KWierso|sheriffduty, landing a DONTBUILD patch, so I can't break it :)
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185. # [01:06] <KWierso|sheriffduty> heycam: challenge accepted :P
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190. # [01:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c23f0d94ba4b - Cameron McCormack - Add command to lldbinit to print objects using their concrete type; no bug. (NPOTB, DONTBUILD) rs=ehsan
191. # [01:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e7e2de7b13e - David Keeler - bug 948574 - remote nsISiteSecurityService::IsSecureURI r=bz
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216. # [01:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/495387c38734 - Patrick McManus - bug 957093 - namespace consistency for netwerk/protocol/http r=sworkman
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218. # [01:26] <@smaug> roc: thanks for fixing Bug 946065
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229. # [01:31] <@smaug> dbaron: curious, is Bug 915832 still an issue for you ?
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250. # [01:45] <jhopkins> in case someone has suggestions re: VS2010 and VS2012 coexisting on the same machine: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=946859#c6
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258. # [01:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db68ac22b042 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 932837 part 1. Make FrameDescription compute the line number lazily. r=jandem
259. # [01:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8e95a6fcee23 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 932837 part 5. Don't eagerly grab file/line info when constructing an Exception. r=khuey
260. # [01:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b6d1eaed0807 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 932837 part 4. Allocate the caller JSStackFrames lazily. r=khuey
261. # [01:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3427a45608d - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 932837 part 2. Create a refcounted object to manage the lifetime of a JS::StackDescription. r=mccr8, terrence
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272. # [01:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/acb5541fdea6 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 933549. Change PaintState to use a DrawTarget instead of a gfxContext. r=mattwoodrow
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300. # [02:11] <KWierso|sheriffduty> nrc: looks like bustage :(
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302. # [02:11] <nrc> :-( I just backed that out, fixed a bug and checked it built
303. # [02:12] <@gavin> khuey: NS_WARN_IF(NS_FAILED()) isn't short enough for you?
304. # [02:12] <KWierso|sheriffduty> nrc: ../../../../gfx/layers/Layers.cpp:1504:34: error: use of undeclared identifier 'permitSubpixelAA'
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307. # [02:12] <nrc> What? I fixed that :-(
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310. # [02:13] <nrc> I bet I forgot to qref or something dumb
311. # [02:13] <nrc> yep
312. # [02:13] <nrc> KWierso|sheriffduty: can I have a few minutes to push a fix please?
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314. # [02:13] <KWierso|sheriffduty> tree's closed, have at it :)
315. # [02:14] <nrc> thanks
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320. # [02:15] <@khuey> gavin: well if (NS_WARN_IF(NS_FAILED(rv))) {
321. # [02:16] <@khuey> return rv;
322. # [02:16] <@khuey> }
323. # [02:16] <@khuey> is kind of annoying
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326. # [02:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b668ebb1d700 - Nicholas Cameron - Fix bustage from bug 933549 because I am an idiot who forgot to qref, on a CLOSED TREE
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328. # [02:18] <@gavin> khuey: get over it
329. # [02:18] <@gavin> you crazy
330. # [02:18] <@khuey> heh
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332. # [02:19] <sfink> Hm. I just got a message from a site I recognize saying their user database was hacked and the password hashes stolen. The message contained an HTTP link to a login page where you give both your username and password, which of course would be sent back in the clear. I'm feeling like it's reasonable for me to be paranoid.
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334. # [02:23] <Waldo> precog hacking
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338. # [02:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ad56055fac4d - Andrew McCreight - Bug 957370 - Make 'total time' measure total time actually running the CC. r=smaug
339. # [02:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67acf04ff8d5 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 956080 - Rename BeginCycleCollection to TraverseRoots. r=smaug
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347. # [02:38] <josh> cpearce: I build mozilla-central debug on ubuntu and I have no webm support
348. # [02:38] <josh> is that the default?
349. # [02:38] <doublec> josh: webm should work fine
350. # [02:38] <cpearce> josh no
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352. # [02:39] <cpearce> josh: what doublec said.
353. # [02:39] <doublec> josh: how are you testing that it doesn't work?
354. # [02:39] <@njn> Has Firefox recently become more aggressive about doing ligatures, such as "fi"
355. # [02:39] <@njn> ?
356. # [02:39] <cpearce> josh: test that the pref media.webm.enabled is true?
357. # [02:39] <josh> doublec: just went to the popcorn main page, where this is a webm video on the front page
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359. # [02:40] <josh> cpearce: works in ubuntu stock browser, just not the browser I built
360. # [02:40] <doublec> josh: link to page?
361. # [02:40] * cpearce wonders if ubuntu stock is shipping with gstreamer support enabled...
362. # [02:40] <josh> doublec: http://popcornjs.org/
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364. # [02:40] <doublec> I get an mp4 on that page
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366. # [02:41] <KWierso|sheriffduty> .ogv for me
367. # [02:41] <cpearce> I wonder if the capital 'M' in type="video/webM" is confusing our canplaytype logic
368. # [02:41] <doublec> are the 'type' attrbiutes of 'source' case sensitive?
369. # [02:42] <doublec> yeah that's what I was wondering
370. # [02:42] <cpearce> yeah, looks like it is
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374. # [02:47] <josh> cpearce, doublec: I figured out the problem. thanks
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376. # [02:48] <josh> not an issue with the webM capitalization on the site, a self-inflicted issue
377. # [02:48] <jcranmer> now
378. # [02:49] <jcranmer> how many people are going to murder me for a self-demonstrating post?
379. # [02:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5163bf6b21b2 - Luke Wagner - Bug 944821 - Support more than 1 cached asm.js module per origin (r=janv)
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381. # [02:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/de68c6ddc8fd - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 949488 - postMessage's targetOrigin argument should accept /, r=bholley
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383. # [02:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2a48cbedec72 - Wes Kocher - Merge inbound to m-c
384. # [02:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/91002487d440 - Terrence Cole - Bug 955660 - Fix an exact rooting hazard in CallSetup; r=bz
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421. # [03:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5b9009fc551a - Brian Grinstead - Bug 957160 - DevTools Themes: Use 2x icon for split console on tab bar - part 2;r=pbrosset
422. # [03:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5c548fcd09f9 - Wes Kocher - Merge fx-team to m-c
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436. # [03:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd45df1d768b - Wes Kocher - Merge b2g-inbound to m-c
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474. # [03:43] <froydnj> njn: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32670110&tree=Try :(
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476. # [03:44] <@njn> froydnj: I got a couple of them too, but they went away after re-triggering
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478. # [03:45] <@njn> froydnj: but feel free to file a bug in case others have the same problem, so that one's on file
479. # [03:45] <@njn> froydnj: BTW, I take it to mean you haven't frozen to death
480. # [03:45] <@njn> froydnj: this is a good thing
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482. # [03:45] <nthomas> I wonder why that never tried a bundle
483. # [03:45] <froydnj> njn: not yet!
484. # [03:46] <froydnj> cold seems to be doing funny things to the internet connection, though
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486. # [03:47] <@njn> it's sunny and 75 F here, and the internet appears to be fine
487. # [03:47] <@njn> :P
488. # [03:47] <@njn> no vertices in sight
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491. # [03:48] <@njn> I read that Chicago airport was colder on Monday morning than the South Pole
492. # [03:48] <@njn> though, to be fair, it's summer at the South Pole
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494. # [03:50] <benjamin> stop rubbing it in :)
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501. # [03:54] <nigelb> lol
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517. # [04:11] <@roc> no vertices in sight? do you live in an igloo?
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520. # [04:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07a4682a75f2 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 956507 - Remove the PRUnichar typedef from Char16.h; r=jcranmer
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525. # [04:15] <mwu> jchen: ping
526. # [04:15] <jchen> mwu: pong
527. # [04:16] <mwu> jchen: hey, do you remember much about bug 694325 ?
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530. # [04:16] <mwu> I was trying to figure out which commit android fixed this in
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532. # [04:17] <jchen> mwu: oh yeah that one was fun. i think it was fixed with whatever synchronization android added to bionic file functions (fopen, etc.)
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534. # [04:18] <mwu> oh.
535. # [04:18] <jchen> mwu: the assumption was there was a race on opening the hosts file
536. # [04:18] * philor|away is now known as philor
537. # [04:18] <jchen> but that could be a wrong assumption
538. # [04:18] <mwu> well, that makes me feel less bad about not being able to find the commit
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540. # [04:18] <mwu> but we're fairly sure it's fixed post honeycomb, right?
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542. # [04:19] <jchen> mwu: heh. yeah i think 3.0+ fixed it. are you just checking or is it causing problems?
543. # [04:19] <mwu> just making sure
544. # [04:19] <mwu> wanted a commit to be really sure, but I'll also take your word for it
545. # [04:20] <mwu> jchen: basically our hacked version of this doesn't build anymore on kitkat based gonk, and I'd rather just stop building it than fix the build
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547. # [04:21] <jchen> mwu: makes sense. i think you also need to revert whatever linker wrap flags we're using?
548. # [04:21] <mwu> yup
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568. # [04:43] <philor> urghl
569. # [04:44] <@njn> lotsa red on inboudn
570. # [04:44] <philor> indeed
571. # [04:45] * @njn holds his fire
572. # [04:46] <philor> fortunately, most of it is just because we don't understand how the intertubes work
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575. # [04:46] <benjamin> if we don't, who does?
576. # [04:46] <bz> Or don't work?
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578. # [04:47] <bz> benjamin: You just made an assumption.... ;)
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580. # [04:47] <benjamin> existence
581. # [04:47] <philor> generally, people who lose money when things aren't retried understand it better than people who ignore the bugmail generated by me manually retriggering jobs
582. # [04:48] <benjamin> who loses money when things aren't retried?
583. # [04:48] <benjamin> (amazon?)
584. # [04:48] <KWierso|afk> philor: shouldn't we close all trees at this point?
585. # [04:48] <philor> there are other trees?
586. # [04:49] <philor> and closing b2g-inbound is pointless
587. # [04:49] <philor> closing try, which would be a very strong benefit for its users, will result in nothing but bitching
588. # [04:50] * KWierso|afk was more talking about m-c and fx-team and aurora/beta
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591. # [04:50] <philor> nor will closing trees actually benefit me, since the builds which will trigger tests which I will have to retrigger are all already running
592. # [04:50] <philor> so, meh
593. # [04:50] <KWierso|afk> okay
594. # [04:50] * KWierso|afk resumes |afk
595. # [04:51] * philor checks who the IT oncall is
596. # [04:51] <philor> since I might close everything for "Infra failiures" just for fun :)
597. # [04:51] <benjamin> is that fun?
598. # [04:51] <philor> it is if it's a certain oncall
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602. # [04:52] <nthomas> one of the nodes behind ftp.m.o went down about 19:18 pacific
603. # [04:53] <philor> huh, does ec2 only hit one node?
604. # [04:53] <nthomas> it really shouldn't
605. # [04:53] <philor> I was beginning to notice that all these hundred things I'm retriggering are Linux and b2g
606. # [04:54] <nthomas> on high numbered ec2 instances ?
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608. # [04:54] <philor> spots and 300s
609. # [04:55] <philor> mostly spots, but then, most things are
610. # [04:55] <nthomas> looks like it's just usw2 then
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613. # [04:57] <philor> amusingly, Amazon is actually who *makes* money from this situation
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615. # [04:58] <philor> we pay for 21 minute jobs, even when they are test jobs that wouldn't have taken that much total, and then I retrigger a rather large share of them and we pay again
616. # [04:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/15f55912548a - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 07a4682a75f2 (bug 956507) because it has bitrotten
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622. # [05:03] <philor> bz: bustage, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32672472&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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633. # [05:09] <philor> nthomas: is http://runtime-binaries.pvt.build.mozilla.org/tooltool in the same place as ftp.m.o?
634. # [05:09] <nthomas> no
635. # [05:10] <philor> android builds on m-c
636. # [05:10] <philor> maybe I will close every tree after all
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638. # [05:11] <nthomas> usw2 slaves again
639. # [05:11] <philor> "Trying to use bundle http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/bundles/fx-team.hg"
640. # [05:11] <philor> now that's an unfortunate optimization :)
641. # [05:12] <philor> and fx-team has code bustage which I've been misstarring
642. # [05:12] <philor> unless browser_codemirror.js has a dependency on ftp.m.o
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657. # [05:22] <ewong> wooo boy.. that treeherder ui looks spiffy..
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664. # [05:26] <philor> though I have to admit that the filename of "browser_dbg_aaa_run_first_leaktest.js" doesn't give me much faith in its robustness
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666. # [05:27] <philor> browser_dbg_I_have_clearly_got_interdependent_tests_which_should_not_be_interdependent.js
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678. # [05:31] <ewong> whoa..
679. # [05:32] <philor> why did I ever enjoy this hobby?
680. # [05:33] <ewong> masochism!
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692. # [05:43] <philor> bz: am I going to have to take you out, or are you going to come back and tell me that test is utterly bogus and should clearly be killed?
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698. # [05:46] <philor> dkee
699. # [05:47] <philor> yeah, you're coming out, aren't you?
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719. # [06:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1c39a3405ce - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 2e7e2de7b13e (bug 948574) for b2g mochitest crashes
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731. # [06:12] <philor> huh, how did we merge reftest bustage to m-c?
732. # [06:13] <philor> oh, I see
733. # [06:13] <philor> BY MERGING PERMAORANGE BELOW A BACKOUT
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736. # [06:14] * philor looks for a puppy to kick
737. # [06:14] <dholbert> d'oh
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741. # [06:17] <philor> I'd really like to know how we wound up deciding that merge-and-go-home was such a great idea
742. # [06:17] <bz> Greatness is in the eyes of the beholder
743. # [06:17] <bz> or the gohomer, in this case?
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745. # [06:18] <philor> everybody seems to end their sheriffing day by merging
746. # [06:18] <philor> in *my* day, when you pushed something to m-c, you watched it!
747. # [06:18] <philor> </canewaving>
748. # [06:20] <philor> bz: anyway, about your browser_dbg_aaa_run_first_leaktest.js crashes, backout?
749. # [06:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cf2d1bd796ea - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset d1b5408d946f (bug 952087) for Android reftest failures.
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754. # [06:28] <glandium> what does tbpl use to know the paths to the build directories?
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757. # [06:28] <philor> builds-4hr.js.gz, or totally outdated reverse-engineering for the rare times when it isn't in the json
758. # [06:29] <glandium> philor: is that file available publically?
759. # [06:29] <philor> http://builddata.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildjson/builds-4hr.js.gz
760. # [06:29] <glandium> thanks
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762. # [06:31] <glandium> philor: i guess that as the name suggests, this is only the last 4 hours of pushes, right?
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764. # [06:31] <philor> glandium: yeah, but daily files are in the same directory
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766. # [06:31] <philor> last 4 hours of job-finishes, actually
767. # [06:32] <glandium> ooooh
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770. # [06:34] * philor takes silence to mean "yeah, please back me out"
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773. # [06:36] <philor> and who would like the blame for the 10.8 debug crashtest @ mozilla::AutoJSContext::Init(bool, mozilla::detail::GuardObjectNotifier const&)?
774. # [06:37] * philor looks at nrc
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777. # [06:37] <nrc> :-(
778. # [06:38] <nrc> would be a first for causing JS orange
779. # [06:38] <philor> maybe I can shove it down onto bz, let's see
780. # [06:38] * nrc crosses fingers
781. # [06:39] <nrc> that definitely looks more like a bz thing than an nrc thing
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783. # [06:39] <nrc> still, first time for everything
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785. # [06:40] <bz> philor: looking
786. # [06:40] <bz> philor: on which push do you see this orange?
787. # [06:40] <bz> philor: and which tree?
788. # [06:41] <bz> Ah, the merge, on inbound?
789. # [06:41] <philor> bz: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?showall=1&tree=Mozilla-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1&rev=8e95a6fcee23
790. # [06:41] <bz> uh
791. # [06:41] <philor> and all the browser-chrome above it, and maybe the crashtest, not sure
792. # [06:42] <philor> the crashtest is down to https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?showall=1&tree=Mozilla-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1&rev=b668ebb1d700, and heading down toward you as I retrigger
793. # [06:42] * bz _had_ run those patches through try
794. # [06:42] <bz> but it's been a while
795. # [06:42] <bz> looking
796. # [06:43] <bz> The crashtest sure looks like me!
797. # [06:43] <bz> one sec
798. # [06:44] <bz> Oh, man
799. # [06:44] <bz> yeah, this is not good. ;)
800. # [06:44] <bz> One sec.
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803. # [06:45] <bz> bholley!
804. # [06:45] <bz> bholley: just the man I want
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807. # [06:45] <bz> bholley: What is the correct replacement for AutoJSContext
808. # [06:45] <bz> bholley: if it needs to work on workers and mainthread?
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812. # [06:47] <bz> philor: yeah, the autojscontext bits there are me. Fixing.
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819. # [06:56] <bz> philor: ok if I land a followup orange fix?
820. # [06:56] <philor> bz: sure, what's the worst that can... yeah, I don't want to know that, sure
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826. # [06:58] <firebot> Check-in:
827. # [06:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ff331377910 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 932837 followup. Don't use AutoJSContext in JSStackFrame, since we use that code on workers too. r=bholley pending, but landing now to fix the CLOSED TREE.
828. # [06:59] <bz> philor: Sorry for the mess. :(
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830. # [07:00] <philor> bz: no worries, plenty of other messes around too, yours doesn't really stand out
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837. # [07:06] <nigelb> nthomas: I narrowed the issue I saw about restart popups to the following - my nightly is showing me restart warnings as soon as it starts downloading a new update. Yet to test with a new profile, I'll report back/file a bug once I've eliminated a corrupt profile.
838. # [07:06] <nthomas> ok
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850. # [07:22] <sfink> wow, the tree seems to be afflicted with some sort of pox
851. # [07:22] * nigelb peeks
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857. # [07:25] <nigelb> oh wow
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859. # [07:25] <sfink> red and orange pustules appearing all over, quickly erupting into same-colored goopy asterisks
860. # [07:26] <nigelb> ah, I see this was discussed in #it earlier.
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863. # [07:27] <ashish> stop tweeting what you "overhear" nigelb :P
864. # [07:28] <nigelb> ashish: :D
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868. # [07:29] <philor> it's the cheap-but-inferior pox, a rather common affliction
869. # [07:30] <ashish> :)
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880. # [07:35] <rhelmer> checkin pox?!
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887. # [07:40] <hsivonen> what's the mozconfig option that packages all XUL files under dist/bin/ so that there are no symlinks to the source dir?
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890. # [07:41] <glandium> hsivonen: why would you want that?
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893. # [07:43] <hsivonen> glandium: so that when I change my source dir, the opt build that I use for browsing still launches without a YSoD
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899. # [07:45] <glandium> hsivonen: make stage-package and run the build from there instead of dist/bin?
900. # [07:45] <glandium> (there being dist/firefox)
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902. # [07:46] <hsivonen> glandium: thanks. I'll try that
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929. # [07:59] <hsivonen> glandium: no rule to make target 'stage-package' :-( (mach doesn't know it either)
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934. # [07:59] <hsivonen> hmm ./mach package does something
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936. # [07:59] <glandium> hsivonen: mach package also creates a tarball, that's a waste of time
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938. # [08:00] <glandium> hsivonen: make -f client.mk stage-package doesn't work?
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942. # [08:00] <hsivonen> glandium: thanks. that one does something
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1041. # [09:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/80f53ccf4ce2 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 957021 - Fix messed-up memory reporter paths. r=khuey.
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1044. # [09:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5469c3c3506d - Tomer Cohen - Bug 744659 - [about:home][rtl] Use dir=auto in search box to change direction if query is RTL, r=ehsan
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1060. # [09:13] <glazou> nattofriends, John?
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1065. # [09:14] <glazou> oh, nattofriends is not nattokirai apparently :-) sorry
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1067. # [09:14] <glazou> bonjour BTW and happy new year everyone
1068. # [09:15] <Ms2ger> Bonne année
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1074. # [09:17] <glazou> :)
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1077. # [09:18] <Ms2ger> Want to rebase createElementNS? :)
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1084. # [09:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f5f6f400d97 - Steve Fink - Bug 956434 - Do not pass an internal pointer on the stack, r=terrence
1085. # [09:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a443aaba92c0 - Steve Fink - Bug 956434 - Apply gczeal to object cache allocations, r=terrence
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1087. # [09:23] <glazou> Ms2ger, yes but not right now since I have a hot potato in my inbox :-/
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1089. # [09:23] <Ms2ger> Fun
1090. # [09:23] <glazou> yeah
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1092. # [09:24] <glazou> that kind of things happen when you work on strategy...
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1110. # [09:39] <gcp> export MOZ_PSEUDO_DERECURSE=no-pymake
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1125. # [09:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/59b94799b064 - Karl Tomlinson - b=956604 optimize inverse FFT scaling during convolution r=padenot
1126. # [09:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3555983eb8d2 - Karl Tomlinson - b=956604 Remove unnecessary channel count parameter from AudioBufferInPlaceScale r=padenot
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1130. # [09:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b73bf63d70c8 - Karl Tomlinson - b=956604 rename block version of AudioBufferInPlaceScale to AudioBlockInPlaceScale r=padenot
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1146. # [09:55] <bruce> anybody there ?
1147. # [09:55] <Ms2ger> No
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1149. # [09:56] <bruce> I am a new user
1150. # [09:56] <bruce> I study the gecko for several months
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1152. # [09:57] <bruce> is there any documents ?
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1155. # [09:57] <bruce> I wanna know how the gecko process a web app
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1157. # [09:58] <bruce> how the gecko works .
1158. # [09:58] <glandium> great, so now there's this valgrind thing that does its hg cloning on its own and guess what, that fails
1159. # [09:59] <mwargers> when I remove test files from the mochitest.ini file, they are still run afterwards. How can I make certain mochitest test files stop running?
1160. # [09:59] <glandium> mwargers: ask gps and/or file a bug
1161. # [10:00] <nrc> bruce: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Gecko:Overview
1162. # [10:00] <nrc> and welcome! :-)
1163. # [10:00] <nthomas> glandium: see bug 957455
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1165. # [10:00] <mwargers> glandium, thx
1166. # [10:00] <Ms2ger> mwargers, rebuild, I guess
1167. # [10:00] <Ms2ger> mwargers, or use skip-if = true instead of removing them
1168. # [10:00] <bruce> nrc:thank you very much.
1169. # [10:00] <mwargers> Ms2ger: I did rebuild that directory, or should I rebuild everything?
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1171. # [10:01] <mwargers> Ms2ger: ah, that's a good idea!
1172. # [10:01] <Ms2ger> Everything
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1174. # [10:01] <Ms2ger> I think only a top-level build purges _tests
1175. # [10:01] <mwargers> ok, I see
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1180. # [10:02] <glandium> nthomas: btw, where is hgtool kept?
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1182. # [10:03] <nthomas> glandium: the canonical location is the tools hit in http://mxr.mozilla.org/build/find?text=&string=hgtool.py
1183. # [10:03] <nthomas> the valgrind script is at http://mxr.mozilla.org/build/source/tools/scripts/valgrind/valgrind.sh
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1186. # [10:04] <nthomas> more helpful would be to say, look in http://hg.mozilla.org/build/tools/
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1253. # [10:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb9c10bf3dd1 - Markus Stange - Bug 874792 - [Australis] Make the PanelUI popup slide instead of flip when it doesn't fit on the screen. r=Gijs
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1258. # [10:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b5fa5fb3a22 - Markus Stange - Bug 874792 - Remove the 3px offset between menus / panels and the screen edge. r=Enn
1259. # [10:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9bbdc400dc1f - Markus Stange - Bug 957192 - Ignore unnecessary invalidations from NSView / NSWindow. Improves scrolling performance with plugins. r=smichaud
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1261. # [10:43] <mihaelav> hi. does anyone know any condition/property/etc that changes when you enter print preview mode? Or how I can check that print preview is open?
1262. # [10:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ff04cca465b - Markus Stange - Bug 956266 - Don't rebuffer quad vertex + texture coordinates when drawing simple quads in CompositorOGL. r=nrc
1263. # [10:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d0086188688 - Markus Stange - Bug 874792 - Make adjustment sign consistent and use a transform for moving the arrow. r=Enn
1264. # [10:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab6bc5637e29 - Markus Stange - Bug 957366 - Skip the temporary surface during filter drawing for DrawTarget-backed gfxContexts. r=roc
1265. # [10:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb0f15374f4f - Markus Stange - Bug 951443 - Don't attempt to create 0x0-sized CGContexts when the UnboundnessFixer encounters an empty clip. r=jrmuizel
1266. # [10:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a31d585b193 - Markus Stange - Bug 941887. r=roc
1267. # [10:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50469056e5ab - Markus Stange - Bug 874792 - Allow panel sliding to work even if mPosition is POPUPPOSITION_UNKNOWN. r=Enn
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1279. # [11:02] <mihaelav> hi. does anyone know any condition/property/etc that changes when you enter print preview mode? Or how I can check that print preview is open?
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1297. # [11:16] <jonco> mstange: I think you broke inbound :(
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1315. # [11:28] <mstange> jonco: uh oh
1316. # [11:29] <mstange> backing out...
1317. # [11:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c991409dc20 - Markus Stange - Backing out changeset 1ff04cca465b (bug 956266) due to compilation failures on Android.
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1322. # [11:39] <jonco> mstange: thanks for sorting that!
1323. # [11:39] <mstange> jonco: sorry for breaking it
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1330. # [11:48] <whimboo> hi. anyone around who knows how to enable logging for NSS code?
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1334. # [11:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eda85da69267 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 951230 - Link test_IHistory against JS engine to fix link error with GGC r=glandium
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1336. # [11:52] <mstange> whimboo: which logging messages do you want to see?
1337. # [11:53] <mstange> whimboo: I'd suggest something like NSPR_LOG_MODULES=your_logging_module_here:5 mach run, but I don't see a PR_Log module that covers all of NSS
1338. # [11:54] <whimboo> mstange: hey!
1339. # [11:54] <whimboo> can you please have a look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=956315#c8
1340. # [11:54] <whimboo> its core NSPR
1341. # [11:54] <whimboo> in this case for PR_BIND
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1343. # [11:54] <whimboo> to identify the hang
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1345. # [11:56] <mstange> whimboo: I don't know what kind of logging could be of help in that case
1346. # [11:56] <mstange> whimboo: I think getting a stack from gdb would be much more helpful
1347. # [11:57] <whimboo> mstange: that's what i'm trying to do now. getting xcode installed and getting this info
1348. # [11:57] <whimboo> thanks anyway!
1349. # [11:57] <mstange> whimboo: good luck!
1350. # [11:57] <Yoric> ttaubert: For bug 942340, are you ok with me landing it as is, or do you want me to do the sync change?
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1404. # [12:47] <gcp> It's insane how fast windows builds are now.
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1406. # [12:55] * @smaug wonders silly things. How many bugmails has bmo sent?
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1412. # [12:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/268795df42a1 - Markus Stange - Bug 956266 - Don't rebuffer quad vertex + texture coordinates when drawing simple quads in CompositorOGL. r=nrc
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1420. # [13:02] <NeilAway> gcp: yeah, but my browser is still eating more CPU than any individual compilation :s
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1422. # [13:04] <Yoric> Can anyone help me understand what's going on here? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32690916&tree=Try&full=1
1423. # [13:05] <Yoric> I have an Android build error but no real error message.
1424. # [13:05] <Yoric> Just "make[5]: *** [Unified_cpp_dom_system0.o] Error 1"
1425. # [13:05] <mstange> Yoric: "invalid preprocessing directive #elseif"
1426. # [13:06] <Yoric> Where did you see that error message?
1427. # [13:06] <Yoric> Oh, seen it.
1428. # [13:06] <Yoric> mstange: Thanks.
1429. # [13:06] <mstange> Yoric: no problem, I didn't see it at first either
1430. # [13:06] <mstange> Yoric: so much visual noise ;)
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1432. # [13:06] <Yoric> Yeah.
1433. # [13:07] <mstange> I wonder why the "error:" line isn't highlighted, maybe we only highlight case-sensitive "Error:"?
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1435. # [13:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b289ebad63f9 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 950462 - Clear template object convert-double-elements flag if needed. r=h4writer
1436. # [13:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c26da1b05ba - Jan de Mooij - Bug 957075 - Add missing parentheses, silence an MSVC warning. r=shu
1437. # [13:08] <mstange> oh, there's no general "Error:" rule in http://hg.mozilla.org/webtools/tbpl/annotate/tip/php/inc/GeneralErrorFilter.php
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1442. # [13:14] <gcp> is there a bug on file for session restore with no tabs restoring a random tab from history?
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1447. # [13:19] <NeilAway> um, -t reftest doesn't work on B2G/Android?
1448. # [13:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4d357af9c538 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 951947 - IonMonkey: Inline the call to str.replace(re, string), r=jandem
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1451. # [13:24] <mstange> NeilAway: looks like they're called plain-reftest-1,plain-reftest-2,plain-reftest-3,plain-reftest-4 - at least that's what trychooser gave me and it works
1452. # [13:25] <mstange> NeilAway: oh wait, it actually goes up to plain-reftest-10, but my hg extension doesn't know about them
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1462. # [13:36] <Gijs> mstange: ping
1463. # [13:36] <mstange> Gijs: pong
1464. # [13:37] <Gijs> mstange: the effect of window.fullScreen on OS X is delayed
1465. # [13:37] <Gijs> mstange: how can frontend know when we've actually reached fullscreen?
1466. # [13:37] <Gijs> (specifically, I guess, OS X >= 10.7, because of the animation)
1467. # [13:37] <mstange> Gijs: I don't know
1468. # [13:37] <Gijs> :(
1469. # [13:38] <mstange> Gijs: I'll need to find out if I want to fix your bug :)
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1471. # [13:38] * Gijs is staring at an intermittent test failure and can reproduce it no problem, but has no idea how to fix
1472. # [13:38] <Gijs> (there's a new experience...)
1473. # [13:38] <mstange> Gijs: oh wow
1474. # [13:38] <Gijs> which bug is that?
1475. # [13:38] <Gijs> mstange: the 'your bug', I mean - not sure which one you're talking about? :)
1476. # [13:38] <mstange> Gijs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=946768
1477. # [13:39] <Gijs> ah, yeah...
1478. # [13:39] <mstange> Gijs: actually, that bug doesn't really look related to timing
1479. # [13:39] <Gijs> no, it just looks like brokenness
1480. # [13:39] <Gijs> which is fascinating
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1482. # [13:39] <mstange> Gijs: but I still want to fix the animation in general at some point... we always animate to a resized version of the original appearance, and then abruptly switch to the fullscreen appearance
1483. # [13:39] <Gijs> possibly related to this issue
1484. # [13:40] <Gijs> mm
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1491. # [13:42] <mstange> Gijs: which bug is the intermittent failure?
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1503. # [13:48] <gcp> oh you have got to be shitting me
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1506. # [13:48] <gcp> DOUGT
1507. # [13:48] <gcp> GAVIN
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1511. # [13:49] <nigelb> heh
1512. # [13:49] <gcp> our Firefox API keys are getting 403 Forbidden from Google for some security sensitive services
1513. # [13:50] <gcp> to add insult, it works in developer builds, because those don't use API keys
1514. # [13:50] <gcp> Official builds are fucked, though.
1515. # [13:50] <nigelb> oh oh.
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1518. # [13:52] <NeilAway> mstange: sure, but why should I have to know that my reftest is called different things on each platform?
1519. # [13:52] <Standard8> gcp: maybe you could email release-drivers?
1520. # [13:52] <gcp> Standard8: it's been broken since November
1521. # [13:53] <Standard8> ouch
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1523. # [13:53] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gcp: yeah i agree with Standard8, not sure this was noticed
1524. # [13:53] <mstange> NeilAway: I agree, I don't see a reason for them being called differently, but maybe there is one
1525. # [13:53] <gcp> it's not catcheable with our tests
1526. # [13:53] <gcp> we don't know what's in Google's DB, and obviously our infra can't test whether their server responds to our (hidden) api key
1527. # [13:53] <Standard8> sounds like its something drivers should be notified about
1528. # [13:53] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
1529. # [13:54] <gcp> ok, I'll flag
1530. # [13:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> thanks gcp
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1532. # [13:59] <gcp> yea, changing the update url and removing the API key makes it work in release
1533. # [13:59] <gcp> jeez!
1534. # [13:59] <gcp> at least this should be fixable without chemspill, I think, given that it's a settings change
1535. # [13:59] <gcp> or, you know, have google unblock our key? :P
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1540. # [14:02] <gcp> do releases use the same api key as nightlies?
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1546. # [14:08] <froydnj> does bzapi have bits for asking which reviewers are appropriate for files and/or parts of the tree?
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1552. # [14:14] <gcp> Looks like it only affects Firefox 28 and up, yay.
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1554. # [14:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9022f0cacaed - Alexander Surkov - Bug 947170 - a testcase for getTextAtOffset when closing tag is preceeded by newline char, r=tbsaunde
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1559. # [14:22] <NeilAway> mstange: wait, my bad, it does run some reftests
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1561. # [14:23] <NeilAway> mstange: ah, so B2G is OK, because those are reftest-N, but Android wants plain-reftest
1562. # [14:23] <mstange> NeilAway: good to know
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1582. # [14:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6356fee7e8b8 - Paul Adenot - Bug 956201 - Null check the destination node when muting. r=karlt
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1585. # [14:39] <RyanVM> padenot: ping
1586. # [14:39] <padenot> RyanVM: hi
1587. # [14:39] <RyanVM> padenot: seems we don't have very much faith in the webaudio tests if the answer to a perma-fail is to disable without taking any time to even understand *why* it's failing
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1589. # [14:40] <RyanVM> a perma-fail on *all* platforms
1590. # [14:40] <padenot> RyanVM: my understanding is that jwwang's patch perma-oranges a couple tests that are not web audio related
1591. # [14:40] <padenot> ah, on all platforms?
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1593. # [14:40] <padenot> maybe I misread
1594. # [14:40] <RyanVM> see my needinfo to you
1595. # [14:40] <RyanVM> and comment 38
1596. # [14:41] <RyanVM> and 36 where it started on Android
1597. # [14:41] <padenot> ok, I misread
1598. # [14:41] <padenot> I'll amend my previous message, thanks for the heads up
1599. # [14:41] <RyanVM> thanks
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1601. # [14:42] <jfkthame> anyone know how i can get "mach build check" to only run tests from a particular directory, not the whole tree?
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1607. # [14:46] <RyanVM> padenot: I guess my point is that "test is failing - must be the test's fault" is a scary assumption to make by default. Maybe the test is making a bad assumption and it is indeed. Maybe the test is legitimately catching a problem. I just get worried when decisions are made without knowing which of the two it is.
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1610. # [14:48] <padenot> RyanVM: yes, I fully agree
1611. # [14:49] <padenot> especially because those tests were working in the first place, and because this patch changes the test framework a bit
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1635. # [15:14] <ttaubert> Yoric: I'd be fine with landing this as is. in the hopefully near future fillTabCachesAsynchronsously() will go away though. but we can just address this as well then
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1640. # [15:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b06d1997d8c - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 956507 - Remove the PRUnichar typedef from Char16.h; r=jcranmer
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1650. # [15:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/188d1e255d40 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 957431 - Remove support for Attr.ownerElement; r=bzbarsky
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1659. # [15:31] <bz> Ms2ger: watch it turn out to be needed for web compat.
1660. # [15:32] <Ms2ger> bz, why do you hate me? :)
1661. # [15:32] <bz> I don't hate you.
1662. # [15:32] <bz> I just have a realistic view of the web.
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1664. # [15:32] <RyanVM> he just hates the web :P
1665. # [15:32] <bz> Don't we all?
1666. # [15:32] <Ms2ger> You could leave me in a positive mood until the bugs come back...
1667. # [15:33] * bz points to mobify's use of document.open()
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1669. # [15:33] <RyanVM> I liked the Citrix "well it broke in a Firefox update, so it must be their fault" line
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1684. # [15:43] <gcp> ttaubert: ping
1685. # [15:43] <ttaubert> gcp: pong
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1688. # [15:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd1fc08e3f58 - Chuck Lee - Bug 948743 - Query interface stat directly. r=vchang, r=acperez
1689. # [15:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b196fffee844 - Jed Davis - Bug 942407 - Fix breakpad signal handler's test for signal origin. r=ted
1690. # [15:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f88ff4f85819 - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 950855 - Spec-compliant enumeration of RTCStatsReport. r=bz
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1692. # [15:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e34b5a089e6 - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 950855 - Create basic getStats mochitest. r=jsmith
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1711. # [15:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/796618164ade - Archana - Bug 414071 - Let escape key close crash reporter dialog. r=ted
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1714. # [15:54] <RyanVM> froydnj: OOC, are you still looking at mochitest memory usage?
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1719. # [15:54] <froydnj> RyanVM: yes...sort of. why?
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1721. # [15:55] <RyanVM> just hadn't heard anything on the topic for awhile and was curious
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1723. # [15:55] <froydnj> I've been out for three weeks if that makes you feel better :)
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1725. # [15:55] * RyanVM isn't convinced that our shutdown timeout issues aren't related to GC/CC
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1727. # [15:55] <RyanVM> yay double negatives
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1729. # [15:56] <RyanVM> froydnj: excuses excuses...
1730. # [15:56] <froydnj> RyanVM: the code-writing bot is still a WIP
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1732. # [15:56] <froydnj> firebot: write my code
1733. # [15:57] <firebot> froydnj: Sorry, I've no idea what 'write my code' might be.
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1735. # [15:57] <RyanVM> firebot: botsnack
1736. # [15:57] <firebot> :)
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1748. # [16:01] <gcp> ttaubert: uh, did you reply to my ping? bad ISP here
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1750. # [16:02] <ttaubert> gcp: yup :)
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1752. # [16:02] <gcp> ttaubert: so is there a bug for it?
1753. # [16:03] <ttaubert> gcp: all I saw from you was "ping". what bug?
1754. # [16:03] <gcp> ttaubert: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=918276#c40
1755. # [16:03] <gcp> ttaubert: close firefox with only a blank tab -> get a random thing from history on restart'
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1757. # [16:04] <ttaubert> gcp: hm interesting. I think I saw something like that before?
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1759. # [16:05] <gcp> ttaubert: well I think so too, but I couldn't find a bug, so I wondered if you knew of one on file
1760. # [16:05] <gcp> ttaubert: if not I'll file it
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1763. # [16:06] <ttaubert> gcp: hmmmm. bug 495123
1764. # [16:07] <gcp> that number is scarily low
1765. # [16:07] <gcp> yeah, that's it.
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1768. # [16:08] <ttaubert> gcp: yes. and look I commented in there. thanks for bringing this to my attention again, I'll read it again
1769. # [16:08] <ttaubert> again
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1773. # [16:09] <gcp> must be very pleasant code
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1777. # [16:11] <Ms2ger> "Don't write features you can't test."
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1781. # [16:12] <Ms2ger> Can we print that on huge banners and hang them all around the MoCo offices? :)
1782. # [16:12] <gcp> In some cases the tests can be very hard to write, though.
1783. # [16:12] <gcp> Like the sessionrestore thing involving quitting firefox, you can already imagine where the fail starts.
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1785. # [16:12] <Ms2ger> Marionette!
1786. # [16:13] <ttaubert> Ms2ger: yes
1787. # [16:13] <bz> Luiginette!
1788. # [16:13] <gcp> I'm writing WebRTC code to reduce CPU usafe if *other* processes cause a high load average. This will be fun.
1789. # [16:13] <ttaubert> bug 940954
1790. # [16:13] <ttaubert> so we do almost have restart tests for firefox, I'll write another one for that bug if we need it
1791. # [16:13] <gcp> And the SafeBrowsing thing: need to monitor third party service providers so we get alerted if they start failing :P
1792. # [16:14] <bz> If other processes cause a high load average, shouldn't we respond by killing those other processes? ;)
1793. # [16:14] <ttaubert> kill all the AVs
1794. # [16:14] <gcp> bz: Android won't let you do that, though you can gobble up RAM and hope the OOM killer gets them!
1795. # [16:14] <Ms2ger> bz, mm, that's another option for marionette-for-Servo
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1798. # [16:15] <Ms2ger> bz, my idea was Serviette
1799. # [16:15] <bz> gcp: man, why do we not run as root? ;)
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1802. # [16:15] <gcp> I do so, but my phone is rooted :P
1803. # [16:16] <gcp> Also killing the "other processes" on FirefoxOS might backfire.
1804. # [16:16] <Ms2ger> gcp, include a rootkit into Fx? :)
1805. # [16:16] <gcp> Already did.
1806. # [16:16] <gcp> NSA paid for it!
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1808. # [16:16] * bz wishes Firefox would stop popping up those "update ready to install" annoyances
1809. # [16:17] <bz> Is there a way to turn those off? :(
1810. # [16:17] <@smaug> there is
1811. # [16:17] <@smaug> since I don't get them.
1812. # [16:17] <@smaug> trying to remember how to disable
1813. # [16:17] <gcp> I heard they're in nsEditor
1814. # [16:17] <bz> I mean, short of turning off updates. ;)
1815. # [16:17] <@smaug> oh, I have 'never check for updates'
1816. # [16:17] <Ms2ger> gcp, ha
1817. # [16:18] <@smaug> and manually do update
1818. # [16:18] <bz> I mean, I want it to check for updates.
1819. # [16:18] <bz> And download them.
1820. # [16:18] <bz> And stage them.
1821. # [16:18] <@smaug> but not notify
1822. # [16:18] <bz> And not bother me about it, just install it the next time it restarts.
1823. # [16:18] <bz> I thought that's what we do on Windows...
1824. # [16:18] <@smaug> ok, then don't know
1825. # [16:19] <@smaug> I think we still notify
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1827. # [16:19] <bz> sigh
1828. # [16:20] <@smaug> it is not similar to linux
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1832. # [16:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/076d817a69f1 - Paul Adenot - Bug 950026 - Bail out when we don't get an expected return value from AudioClient::IsFormatSupported, instead of asserting. r=kinetik, a=lsblakk
1833. # [16:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/869f12d5b4d6 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 955889 - Restore caching in EnsureKeywordsHash. r=mano, a=lsblakk
1834. # [16:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/47129122ecfc - Luke Wagner - Bug 924905 - Do a subsumes check inside the stack iterator. r=jandem, a=lsblakk
1835. # [16:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/bbb29df330c5 - Jim Chen - Bug 953288 - Limit length of URLs for display. r=lucasr, a=bajaj
1836. # [16:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5f40681b58fe - Dongie Agnir - Bug 942356 - Fix up Flash version string on Linux. r=bsmedberg, a=bajaj
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1838. # [16:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3d79e4c4b354 - Karl Tomlinson - Bug 944851 - Don't consider AudioNode input when getting AudioParam values on the main thread. r=ehsan, a=lsblakk
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1855. # [16:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8a6bde76293 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 956806 part 2. Share generic getters/setters/methods across all bindings. r=peterv
1856. # [16:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b28eaf5bde9 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 956806 part 1. Output a list of interface names in PrototypeList.cpp. r=peterv
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1858. # [16:28] <RyanVM> smaug: is it fair to say that a common orange pattern you've been finding is tests that assume a page has loaded and proceeding as if it has without knowing that for sure?
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1860. # [16:28] <RyanVM> smaug: seems like a lot of fixes have been adding checks to make sure the page is actually loaded
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1863. # [16:30] <@smaug> RyanVM: something like that. The issue seems to be that we have load event, and browser isn't quite ready then, it needs its delaydLoad thing to run too
1864. # [16:31] <@smaug> in some cases, at least
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1866. # [16:31] <RyanVM> ok
1867. # [16:31] <RyanVM> smaug: I want to make sure that's covered in the test writing guidelines
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1869. # [16:31] <RyanVM> best practices
1870. # [16:31] <@smaug> ah
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1874. # [16:33] <ttaubert> if the page has frames it would be great to check that event.target == browser.contentWindow too
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1878. # [16:34] <RyanVM> bz: no reply from peterv yet? :(
1879. # [16:34] <bz> RyanVM: about which?
1880. # [16:35] <peterv> reply to what?
1881. # [16:35] <RyanVM> the mDoc uplift for beta
1882. # [16:35] <bz> Ah
1883. # [16:35] <RyanVM> for bug 936056
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1885. # [16:35] <bz> We talked about that
1886. # [16:35] <bz> Uplifting that is scary; I'm working on another plan.
1887. # [16:35] <bz> #content if you're interested in details. ;)
1888. # [16:35] <RyanVM> ok
1889. # [16:35] * peterv goes to comment
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1892. # [16:35] <NeilAway> can we do xhr with html?
1893. # [16:35] <RyanVM> bz: I just see that bug mocking me in my queries :P
1894. # [16:36] <RyanVM> NeilAway: I'm pretty sure I've seen similar reftest failures before, but I forgot what the solution is :(
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1896. # [16:36] <RyanVM> I think there's a way to tell it to wait a bit longer, but I don't remember how
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1898. # [16:37] <bz> RyanVM: makes sense
1899. # [16:37] <bz> RyanVM: I'm aiming to deal with this today
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1901. # [16:38] <RyanVM> bz: cool, thanks :)
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1906. # [16:45] <bz> RyanVM: red on inbound is from that checkin-needed thing
1907. # [16:45] <RyanVM> lol
1908. # [16:45] <RyanVM> just pushed the backout
1909. # [16:46] <bz> error: 'GDK_KEY_Escape' was not declared in this scope
1910. # [16:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee31dadd0969 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 796618164ade (bug 414071) for bustage.
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1913. # [16:47] <bz> Looks like you may want GDK_Escape
1914. # [16:47] <bz> depending on gdk version, yay
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1918. # [16:50] <evilpie> also weird key_press_event vs delete-event
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1923. # [16:55] <jgraham> gps: mach interferes with pdb :(
1924. # [16:55] <jgraham> Specifically by catching all exceptions at the top level
1925. # [16:56] <darkowlzz> RyanVM, hey, what just happened with that patch?
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1927. # [16:56] <RyanVM> darkowlzz: bustage
1928. # [16:57] <RyanVM> see the log link posted in the bug
1929. # [16:57] <darkowlzz> could I know and help in any way?
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1931. # [16:57] <darkowlzz> I saw, but it worked fine on my computer
1932. # [16:57] <RyanVM> bz's comments are probably relevant too
1933. # [16:57] <bz> darkowlzz: What GDK version do you have installed? What versions do we support?
1934. # [16:58] <NeilAway> RyanVM: waiting's not the problem
1935. # [16:58] <NeilAway> RyanVM: the problem is that I do a DOM manipulation but there's no visible effect
1936. # [16:58] <bz> And I guess more importantly, which header does it live in?
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1939. # [17:00] <bz> I mean, in general GDK_KEY_Escape has been around since like 2010....
1940. # [17:01] <darkowlzz> I am on my arch linux, so the latest version
1941. # [17:01] <@ehsan> RyanVM: that crash may be my fault...
1942. # [17:01] <@ehsan> RyanVM: let me push a follow-up
1943. # [17:01] <RyanVM> ehsan: the asserts?
1944. # [17:01] <@ehsan> the asserts?
1945. # [17:01] <@ehsan> I'm talking about https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32701581&tree=Mozilla-Inbound&full=1#error2
1946. # [17:02] <RyanVM> ehsan: ah
1947. # [17:02] <RyanVM> I assumed it was the usual dom-level test flakiness that nobody cares about
1948. # [17:02] <@ehsan> no
1949. # [17:02] <@ehsan> totally my fault in fact
1950. # [17:02] * RyanVM will get around to disabling it on osx/windows one of these days
1951. # [17:02] * Ms2ger whacks ehsan
1952. # [17:02] <@ehsan> fix coming up
1953. # [17:02] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: you nitted on the crashing code :P
1954. # [17:03] <RyanVM> oh, and android
1955. # [17:03] <Ms2ger> The AsElement?
1956. # [17:03] <RyanVM> and maybe b2g
1957. # [17:03] <Ms2ger> Well, my nit would have fixed it :)
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1960. # [17:04] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: I addressed your nit, but the bug was there regardless
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1962. # [17:05] <Ms2ger> Wait, which nit?
1963. # [17:05] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: GetElement()
1964. # [17:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab12a8416a1d - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 957431 follow-up - Handle the case where GetContent() returns null properly
1965. # [17:05] <Ms2ger> Oh
1966. # [17:05] <@ehsan> RyanVM: fix pushed, and sorry!
1967. # [17:05] <Ms2ger> Why did you add that?
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1970. # [17:06] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: you asked me to!
1971. # [17:06] <Ms2ger> I wanted you to replace GetContent()
1972. # [17:06] <Ms2ger> Or at least its return type
1973. # [17:06] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: GetContent() is a virtual method, can't replace it
1974. # [17:07] <Ms2ger> The better fix would have been to just return GetContentInternal(), that already returns Element*
1975. # [17:07] <@ehsan> well
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1977. # [17:07] <@ehsan> GetContentInternal() is private, as its name suggests
1978. # [17:07] <Ms2ger> Sure, just needed to change nsIAttribute, which is why I said followup :)
1979. # [17:07] <bz> nsIAttribute, ick
1980. # [17:07] <Ms2ger> GetElement() { return GetContentInternal(); } then
1981. # [17:08] <@ehsan> who else implements nsIAttribute?
1982. # [17:08] <Ms2ger> Nothing
1983. # [17:08] <@ehsan> so wouldn't a better fix be removing nsIAttribute::GetContent?
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1986. # [17:08] <Ms2ger> Embedders!
1987. # [17:08] <@ehsan> who cares about them? ;)
1988. # [17:08] <Ms2ger> Maybe someone
1989. # [17:08] <@ehsan> ok!
1990. # [17:09] <Ms2ger> Maybe editor/ uses it too
1991. # [17:09] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: here's the deal, you file the follow-up for whatever you want to see done here and I'll do it
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1993. # [17:09] * @ehsan doubts the editor does that
1994. # [17:09] <Ms2ger> Only xpath
1995. # [17:09] <@ehsan> yeah it doesn't
1996. # [17:10] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ehsan: ty for the followup :-)
1997. # [17:10] * Ms2ger files
1998. # [17:10] <@ehsan> thanks
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2002. # [17:10] * NeilAway sighs
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2004. # [17:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82cd92e10736 - Benoit Girard - Bug 952074 - Add configure option --enable-systrace to b2g. r=vlin,glandium
2005. # [17:11] <NeilAway> RyanVM: ok, so it looks like on Android and B2G I was getting the onloads in the wrong order :-(
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2007. # [17:12] <RyanVM> NeilAway: interesting
2008. # [17:12] <RyanVM> froydnj: related to my earlier question - should I be worried when I see mochitest-bc tests that have a DOMWINDOW count pushing 400?
2009. # [17:12] <NeilAway> RyanVM: yeah, adding xhr.overrideMimeType("text/html") makes the bug reproducible on desktop
2010. # [17:13] <froydnj> RyanVM: that sounds high, but I don't know what it's been historically
2011. # [17:13] <froydnj> RyanVM: didn't we turn on the window leak detector?
2012. # [17:14] <RyanVM> froydnj: yes
2013. # [17:14] <RyanVM> was just wondering if that might contribute to high GC/CC times that might make a test timeout-prone
2014. # [17:14] <RyanVM> (this was observed when filing a timeout bug)
2015. # [17:15] <froydnj> RyanVM: I could believe that hypothesis
2016. # [17:15] <RyanVM> I know that during the OOMpocalypse, we fixed other tests to not create so many
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2019. # [17:16] <Ms2ger> ehsan, bug 957652
2020. # [17:16] <Ms2ger> And thanks
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2022. # [17:17] <@ehsan> np
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2025. # [17:20] <NeilAway> RyanVM: what doesn't help is that the web inspector interfers with the test when I'm trying to run it locally :s
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2027. # [17:21] <RyanVM> ehsan: any other ideas on bug 924972? Still pretty timeout-prone on B2G
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2030. # [17:23] <@ehsan> RyanVM: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=924972#c30 ?
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2033. # [17:24] <RyanVM> ehsan: we're seeing a lot of mochitest timeouts lately (see yesterday's OF update from the platform meeting), but no, that error predates those issues
2034. # [17:24] <darkowlzz> RyanVM, bz okay, I got it, I have gdk 2.30
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2036. # [17:24] <@ehsan> hmm
2037. # [17:24] <RyanVM> ehsan: that said, it's very annoying because it's also a big log bloater
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2039. # [17:24] <RyanVM> would be really nice if we could figure out where it's coming from
2040. # [17:25] <@ehsan> I can try running the test under the emulartor today
2041. # [17:25] <RyanVM> but I haven't found any takers for that job yet
2042. # [17:25] <@ehsan> but so far I've been unable to attach gdb to the emulator :(
2043. # [17:25] <RyanVM> i belive you're not the first to have that problem
2044. # [17:25] <@ehsan> but I know that many people don't have that problem
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2046. # [17:25] <@ehsan> not sure what's wrong with my setup
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2052. # [17:27] <darkowlzz> RyanVM, so we install new gdk in servers?
2053. # [17:27] <NeilAway> hmm, tbpl needs some text-overflow love
2054. # [17:27] <RyanVM> darkowlzz: I would expect you'd want a more robust situation than that
2055. # [17:27] <RyanVM> darkowlzz: so you don't break random people trying to build too
2056. # [17:27] <RyanVM> darkowlzz: I think you need some ifdef love
2057. # [17:27] <bruce> I wanna know how the "show time to load" works in the firefox OS
2058. # [17:28] <RyanVM> ehsan: I'm at least going to get that system JS error filed
2059. # [17:28] <RyanVM> it's been annoying us for a long time
2060. # [17:28] <RyanVM> and at best, it's VERY spammy
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2066. # [17:29] <bruce> anyone can help me please ?
2067. # [17:30] <RyanVM> bruce: maybe in #b2g?
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2069. # [17:31] <bruce> OK , thank you
2070. # [17:31] <darkowlzz> RyanVM, oh! I don't know much about GDK versions. Could you leave a comment on the bug?
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2072. # [17:32] <RyanVM> darkowlzz: i'm probably not the right person to be answering that question, just guessing...
2073. # [17:32] <darkowlzz> oh! okay
2074. # [17:32] <darkowlzz> ted, ping!
2075. # [17:32] <RyanVM> I know *nothing* about GDK versions :P
2076. # [17:32] <darkowlzz> any module owner?
2077. # [17:32] <darkowlzz> crashreporter
2078. # [17:32] <bz> pavlov?
2079. # [17:33] <darkowlzz> !seen pavlov
2080. # [17:33] <firebot> pavlov was last seen 163 weeks, 4 days, 7 hours, 17 minutes and 40 seconds ago,
2081. # [17:33] <RyanVM> ehsan: that error shows up in linux debug mochitest logs
2082. # [17:33] <darkowlzz> eh!
2083. # [17:33] <RyanVM> ehsan: I'm looking to see where else
2084. # [17:33] <RyanVM> wow, there's a name I haven't seen in awhile
2085. # [17:33] <bz> darkowlzz: it was _mostly_ a joke....
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2087. # [17:34] <bz> Also, I think the gtk code used to be owned by blizzard.
2088. # [17:34] <bz> Realistically, I think it might be karlt now
2089. # [17:34] <darkowlzz> !seen karlt
2090. # [17:34] <firebot> karlt was last seen 38 weeks, 13 hours, 36 minutes and 12 seconds ago, changing nick to karl.
2091. # [17:34] * bz figures the gtk module owner is the right person to talk to here
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2093. # [17:34] <RyanVM> stransky may be a good option too
2094. # [17:34] <RyanVM> he's done a lot of the 2-->3 work
2095. # [17:34] <bz> so yeah, roc owns and karlt peers
2096. # [17:35] <bz> for gtk widgetry
2097. # [17:35] <bz> !seen karl
2098. # [17:35] <@killer> I don't know who karl is.
2099. # [17:35] <firebot> karl was last seen 13 hours, 42 minutes and 11 seconds ago, saying '* karl wonders how mTracksKnownTime becomes -1 on a ProcessedMediaStream' in #media.
2100. # [17:35] <bz> It's kinda middle of the night in roc/karl land right now
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2102. # [17:36] <darkowlzz> I should probably needinfo or mail them
2103. # [17:37] * RyanVM switches to chrome so he can load tbpl logs en masse and still have a usable browser
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2105. # [17:37] <zzzzz> RyanVM: that's just sad :(
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2107. # [17:37] <RyanVM> zzzzz: don't ask how old the bugs on file for it are :(
2108. # [17:38] <zzzzz> ok
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2110. # [17:38] <bz> darkowlzz: It's 5:42 in the morning there now
2111. # [17:38] <bz> darkowlzz: So just give them a few hours....
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2113. # [17:39] <darkowlzz> sure, will mail/needinfo them. It's gonna be late here
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2116. # [17:39] <RyanVM> woah, chrome has a pretty cool find UI
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2118. # [17:40] <RyanVM> ehsan: so basically, it happens on all platforms in debug mochitests and it happens on b2g desktop
2119. # [17:41] <RyanVM> AFAICT, it doesn't happen on Android/B2G (though maybe it would if we ran debug there)
2120. # [17:41] <RyanVM> interesting that it does happen on b2g desktop, which is opt
2121. # [17:41] <RyanVM> and also conveniently, it starts in the same places
2122. # [17:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53aedd08699f - Daniel Holbert - Bug 940229 part 2: Update mochitest boilerplate, unprefix "initial", and test "unset". r=dbaron
2123. # [17:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ac178db3717 - L. David Baron - Bug 940229 part 1: Test extra inherit/-moz-initial at the start/end of property values. r=dholbert
2124. # [17:42] <darkowlzz> bz, there are 2 Karls, karlt or karlcow?
2125. # [17:42] <RyanVM> darkowlzz: karlt
2126. # [17:42] <darkowlzz> okay
2127. # [17:43] <bz> darkowlzz: karlt, like I said
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2133. # [17:45] <darkowlzz> RyanVM, bz thanks a lot guys :) . Hope our new contributor doesn't get more frustrated :D
2134. # [17:46] <RyanVM> darkowlzz: nobody said it would be easy I hope :P
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2136. # [17:47] <wesj> can we get better clobber comments than "Bug 956240 requires clobber due to bug 956723"
2137. # [17:47] <dougt> gcp: what is up, brother!
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2140. # [17:49] <gcp> dougt: check your emails :P
2141. # [17:49] <dougt> yeah, i saw that
2142. # [17:49] <dougt> so, from what I can tell, we are doing everything right.
2143. # [17:49] <gcp> interesting
2144. # [17:49] <dougt> that is, geolocation continues to work.
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2146. # [17:50] <gcp> so, who in Google did you piss off? :)
2147. # [17:50] <dougt> Google loves me.
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2149. # [17:50] <froydnj> that makes two people
2150. # [17:50] <dougt> hmm. maybe i forgot darin's birthday.
2151. # [17:50] <dougt> whois froydnj
2152. # [17:50] <dougt> hah.
2153. # [17:50] <dougt> was looking for your ip
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2157. # [17:52] <bz> RyanVM: Beta patch in bug 936056 should be good to go.
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2159. # [17:52] <RyanVM> ok, thanks
2160. # [17:52] <bz> RyanVM: Thank _you_
2161. # [17:52] <RyanVM> does it need an r+ first?
2162. # [17:53] <bz> I just got verbal r+ from jandem in #jsapi, if it matters
2163. # [17:53] <RyanVM> wfm, just checking
2164. # [17:53] <bz> RyanVM: makes sense
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2171. # [17:55] <mrbkap> RyanVM: ping?
2172. # [17:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d728498c1e4 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 875562 - Part 1: Document existing crash reporter behavior; r=bsmedberg
2173. # [17:56] <RyanVM> mrbkap: pong
2174. # [17:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a556f789dc36 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 957442: Drop "register" keyword from rdf/base/src/nsInMemoryDataSource.cpp since it's deprecated in C++11 and clang warns about it. r=bsmedberg
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2176. # [17:57] <mrbkap> RyanVM: Hey, if I'm making sure a patch applies to "b2g26" and "b2g18" does that mean "b2g26_v1_2" an "b2g18"?
2177. # [17:57] <RyanVM> mrbkap: yes :)
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2181. # [17:57] <mrbkap> RyanVM: Do I dare ask what b2g26_v1_2f is? :)
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2183. # [17:58] <jcranmer> the codename for the apocalypse?
2184. # [17:58] <RyanVM> mrbkap: a partner-specific branch
2185. # [17:58] <mrbkap> RyanVM: ah-ha, thanks.
2186. # [17:58] <RyanVM> we merge b2g26 to it
2187. # [17:58] <@ted> darkowlzz: pong?
2188. # [17:58] <RyanVM> and that's about all we do for it :)
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2190. # [17:58] <mrbkap> RyanVM: hm, in git there is no "origin/b2g26", why?
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2195. # [17:59] <RyanVM> mrbkap: I no nothing about the git mirrors of gecko
2196. # [17:59] <RyanVM> know*
2197. # [17:59] <RyanVM> ask in #releng
2198. # [18:00] <mrbkap> ok
2199. # [18:00] <RyanVM> oh
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2201. # [18:00] <RyanVM> but is it under b2g26_v1_2?
2202. # [18:00] <mrbkap> RyanVM: yes
2203. # [18:00] <RyanVM> that's the official branch name
2204. # [18:00] <RyanVM> so that's right then
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2206. # [18:00] <RyanVM> (that'll be the convention going forward for future branches as well)
2207. # [18:01] <RyanVM> b2g18 is the oddball
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2209. # [18:01] <gaston> b2g18_v1_1?
2210. # [18:01] <darkowlzz> ted, hi, could you help with https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414071 ?
2211. # [18:01] <RyanVM> gaston: yeah, the idea of putting the version number in the branch name happened way later than b2g18
2212. # [18:02] <RyanVM> and it was made due to the confusion from b2g18
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2235. # [18:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83a0f631842d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset fd1fc08e3f58 (bug 948743) for B2G test failures.
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2246. # [18:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/dad9fe3bf6ee - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 777574 - Skip quickCheckAPI-B2.html on Linux. r=bjacob, a=test-only
2247. # [18:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/92703e5c84a0 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 936056 - Be consistent about the thisobj we pass to getters. r=jorendorff, a=bajaj
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2252. # [18:13] <@ted> darkowlzz: looking
2253. # [18:13] <darkowlzz> sure
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2266. # [18:18] <jcranmer> win 3
2267. # [18:18] <darkowlzz> ted, thanks!
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2270. # [18:19] <@ted> np
2271. # [18:20] <gcp> Callek: well sh--
2272. # [18:20] <gcp> Callek: I obviously had no idea.
2273. # [18:20] <Callek> gcp: sure, but thats why I wanted to e-mail that out
2274. # [18:21] <gcp> The original bug quite trivially documented how to obtain that anyway.
2275. # [18:21] <Callek> gcp: I don't think in this case its worth screaming and running for the hills for, but yea felt it needed to be pointed out none-the-less
2276. # [18:21] <gcp> Still.
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2278. # [18:21] <gcp> It obviously wasn't meant to involve those other parties.
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2294. # [18:25] <Waldo> froydnj, jcranmer: so according to that page whose information we shouldn't trust https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_CXX_in_Mozilla_code enum foo : type is usable everywhere, and MOZ_ENUM_TYPE in TypedEnum.h uses C++11 syntax with all our supported compilers, so we can just kill off that macro totally, right?
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2296. # [18:26] <Waldo> er, wait, that patch to be gcc 4.4 didn't land yet
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2298. # [18:26] <Waldo> but, that page still says gcc 4.4 has typed enums
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2300. # [18:26] <botond> Waldo: gcc 4.4 does not have typed enums
2301. # [18:26] <froydnj> Waldo: yes, that's my fault, I haven't reverted that bit of the page
2302. # [18:27] <Waldo> sadfaces :-(
2303. # [18:27] <botond> Waldo: when I build for b2g, I still get the old expansion of MOZ_ENUM_TYPE
2304. # [18:27] <Waldo> boo-urns!
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2306. # [18:27] <Waldo> diaf b2g
2307. # [18:27] <froydnj> botond: that's because TypedEnum.h has the wrong test for typed enums
2308. # [18:27] <ejpbruel> terrence: ping
2309. # [18:27] <froydnj> botond: but fixing that test causes reftest failures (!) on b2g
2310. # [18:28] <botond> Waldo: er, sorry, I was talking about MOZ_BEGIN_ENUM_CLASS/MOZ_END_ENUM_CLASS
2311. # [18:28] <Gijs> Err, anyone on today's mac nightly on retina seeing images not having the right size?
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2313. # [18:30] <botond> Waldo: it appears I'm also wrong about gcc 4.4 not having typed enums. it has everything except "enum forward declarations"
2314. # [18:30] <botond> (that didn't come until 4.6)
2315. # [18:30] <jcranmer> Waldo: http://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx0x.html claims that gcc has typed enums
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2317. # [18:30] <jcranmer> it's annoying in that they don't distinguish between enum class and enum : int32_t
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2327. # [18:35] <nalexander> RyanVM: it's okay for me to merge s-c to m-i and have it merge out from there, yes?
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2331. # [18:36] <RyanVM> nalexander: any reason to not just merge to m-c directly?
2332. # [18:36] <nalexander> RyanVM: not really; couldn't remember the protocol. Will merge to m-c.
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2337. # [18:37] * Waldo wonders how far he'd get if he tried to argue b2g should require 4.6 minimum
2338. # [18:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Waldo: not very
2339. # [18:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it's already been attempted
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2341. # [18:37] <jcranmer> Waldo: partner pushback
2342. # [18:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> IIRC, the answer was "partners need 4.4"
2343. # [18:37] <Waldo> guh
2344. # [18:38] <Waldo> m-c barely even builds with 4.4, honestly
2345. # [18:38] <jcranmer> if we ever bump up our msvc requirements, b2g will be the thing that holds us back
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2347. # [18:39] <froydnj> I wonder why they want to stick with 4.4
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2349. # [18:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d19f386b9061 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 953311 - nsIdleService.idl and .cpp comments are still suggesting a "back" notification. r=gsvelto
2350. # [18:39] <gcp> but but my ubuntu dev VM is on 4.5
2351. # [18:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4136cb9f3aef - Richard Newman - Bug 953313 - Fix idle observer notification, after Bug 715041 broke in-tree consumers. r=mak
2352. # [18:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/140736b73655 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 957585 - Make jumplists listen for "active" idle topic instead of the defunct "back". r=jimm
2353. # [18:40] <Waldo> 4.5 is broken on m-c, too
2354. # [18:40] <gcp> But there's a patch for that.
2355. # [18:40] <Waldo> at least, for --enable-tests builds, maybe plus --enable-debug
2356. # [18:40] <Waldo> yes, a fugly one
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2358. # [18:41] <jcranmer> 4.5 is barely supported
2359. # [18:41] <Waldo> jesup: you going to look at bug 938092 at some point? I'm holding off on landing until I understand how much we care about upstreaming, or landing upstream first, or just landing a fork change to gtest
2360. # [18:41] <jcranmer> if we can bump up our gcc support, I'd rather move it up to at least 4.6 if not 4.7
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2363. # [18:41] <Waldo> oh, certainly, I'd say kill 4.4 and 4.5 both
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2365. # [18:43] <jcranmer> minimum msvc 2012/gcc 4.6 gives us nullptr, enum class, enum forward-declares, range based-for
2366. # [18:43] <gcp> Upgrading ubuntu. Oh boy :(
2367. # [18:43] <gcp> I demand my convenience holds you all back.
2368. # [18:43] <gcp> </every_firefox_user_complaining_about_upgrades>
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2370. # [18:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30e591fc7153 - Richard Newman - Bug 953312 - Fix idle observer notification in Places expiration. r=mak DONTBUILD
2371. # [18:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f23f0b5c59a5 - Marco Bonardo - Backout 4136cb9f3aef for wrong bug number in commit message.
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2374. # [18:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d4d9bd399020 - Jonathan Kew - bug 951009 - update graphite2 library to upstream v1.2.4. r=jdaggett
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2382. # [18:51] <botond> does anyone know what a crash at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/base/CycleCollectedJSRuntime.cpp#836 indicates?
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2386. # [18:52] <grobinson|laptop> Who's a good person to talk to about HTMLMediaElement?
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2388. # [18:53] <fabrice> grobinson|laptop: people in #media likely
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2390. # [18:53] <botond> gcp: you don't have to upgrade ubuntu to use a newer gcc. it's quite straightforward to build gcc from source
2391. # [18:53] <grobinson|laptop> fabrice: thanks
2392. # [18:53] <gcp> botond: yeah but I already had to hack python 2.7.5 in there, I think I have to cut my losses
2393. # [18:53] <botond> gcp: e.g. for personal projects i use a development snapshot of gcc 4.9 on ubuntu 10.04, where the default gcc is 4.4
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2396. # [18:56] <bjacob_> botond: Waldo: so is this compiler check wrong? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mfbt/TypedEnum.h#29 It requires GCC 4.6.3 for typed enums
2397. # [18:56] <Waldo> bjacob_: we think so, yes, except there's a claim a reftest failure resulted from changing to enable for 4.4 or later
2398. # [18:56] <gcp> I remember when that got added.
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2403. # [18:57] <Waldo> which claim seems dubious, or at least worthy of closer investigation before giving up, at least to me
2404. # [18:57] <gcp> I think 4.5 can't compile when you lower that.
2405. # [18:57] <bjacob_> Waldo: a *reftest* failure o.O ?
2406. # [18:57] <gcp> Waldo, bjacob_: give me 2 minutes
2407. # [18:57] <Waldo> bjacob_: as I said, dubious
2408. # [18:57] <gcp> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=923170
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2413. # [18:58] <bjacob_> Waldo: yeah, i would be *very* interested in using c++11 enums as MOZ_BEGIN_ENUM_CLASS on non-c++11-enums has some quirks
2414. # [18:58] <Waldo> gcp: forcing a few casts for int/enum comparisons for 4.5 seems a worthwhile cost to allowing use of enum foo : T syntax
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2417. # [19:00] <gcp> Waldo: it needs *both*
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2419. # [19:00] <gcp> it needs both the fallback path and the cast
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2422. # [19:01] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: sorry, you pinged me, but I was in a meeting, and then I went to lunch, and my irc client is not capable of handling a sane amount of backscroll, so...
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2425. # [19:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lol
2426. # [19:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: I went ahead and filed the bug with everything I was able to find out
2427. # [19:02] <@ehsan> k, thanks
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2430. # [19:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: but I have no idea who can/will drive investigating it :(
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2432. # [19:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but I was counting 3000-6000 instances per log
2433. # [19:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so yeah, VERY spammy
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2437. # [19:03] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: bug#?
2438. # [19:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: bug 957666
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2444. # [19:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ec04925b2e81 - Nick Alexander - Bug 955808 - Follow-up: Fix bustage. r=me
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2446. # [19:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/65d443d32bf6 - Nick Alexander - Bug 956935 - Follow-up: Fix bustage. r=me
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2448. # [19:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bb178433abe3 - Richard Newman - Bug 956935 - Include supported Sync protocol versions in Android client records. r=nalexander
2449. # [19:06] <gcp> mmc: ping
2450. # [19:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6d5b0207c771 - Richard Newman - Bug 956442 - Include version in desktop Sync client records. r=gps
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2452. # [19:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a30925f7f28e - Nick Alexander - Merge m-c to s-c
2453. # [19:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d31244f88612 - Nick Alexander - Merge m-c to s-c
2454. # [19:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/19bd00ed4b48 - Nick Alexander - Bug 956816 - Implement (de)serializing Android BrowserIDKeyPair instances. r=rnewman
2455. # [19:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6fbf42e15bb1 - Nick Alexander - Bug 955808 - Implement Android Firefox Account client that speaks "onepw" protocol. r=rnewman
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2462. # [19:09] <@ehsan> ted++ for the cpp unit test thing
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2469. # [19:10] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I'll see if I can capture it under the debugger right now
2470. # [19:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: cool, thanks :)
2471. # [19:11] <@ted> ehsan: dminor did all the work!
2472. # [19:11] <@ehsan> dminor++
2473. # [19:11] <@ted> i just filed some bugs and provided moral support
2474. # [19:11] <dmajor> ehsan: RyanVM|sheriffduty: I see a lot of spam for its hex version too (0x80040111) and those look like they have more information and/or might be closer to the failure
2475. # [19:11] <@ehsan> ted: and take the credit :P
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2477. # [19:11] <@ehsan> dmajor: how do I repro?
2478. # [19:12] <dmajor> ehsan: no idea, I just took a peek at the log :)
2479. # [19:12] <@khuey> ehsan: dminor and dmajor are different people :P
2480. # [19:12] <@ted> ehsan: d'oh, i totally failed to name drop him in that post
2481. # [19:12] <@ehsan> khuey: lol I know :)
2482. # [19:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: yes, I get to harass bholley now! :D
2483. # [19:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> he *loves* when I do that
2484. # [19:12] <bholley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: hm?
2485. # [19:12] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: no wait
2486. # [19:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lol, noooo
2487. # [19:12] <@ehsan> khuey: it's probably not his fault yet
2488. # [19:12] <@ehsan> dammit
2489. # [19:13] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ^
2490. # [19:13] <@ehsan> khuey: see, I confuse RyanVM|sheriffduty with you!
2491. # [19:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bholley: trying to figure out the cause of bug 957666
2492. # [19:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: I have to say, that's a new confusion for me
2493. # [19:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Asa's the usual one I get
2494. # [19:13] <@ehsan> it's my irc client, jokes aside
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2497. # [19:13] <@ehsan> I just press tab
2498. # [19:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: TB?
2499. # [19:13] <@ehsan> and it sometimes autocompletes the wrong name
2500. # [19:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> oh
2501. # [19:13] <@ehsan> no, LimeChat
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2503. # [19:14] <@ehsan> now, the funny part is, I *wrote* that tab completion code! :D
2504. # [19:14] <@ehsan> so...
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2506. # [19:14] <froydnj> r-
2507. # [19:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lol
2508. # [19:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> TB's IRC client allows you to double-click a line to put the person's name in front
2509. # [19:14] <@ehsan> in my defence, I didn't even know the programming language!
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2511. # [19:14] <@ehsan> but they took my patch anyways
2512. # [19:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> which is great when you do it at the same time a new comment appears
2513. # [19:15] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: thunderbird doesn't like to give me access to its main thread most of the time
2514. # [19:15] <@ehsan> so it would be a terrible choice for me
2515. # [19:15] <Mook_as> yeah, I just end up running two thunderbirds :(
2516. # [19:15] <bholley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: well, ehsan pointed you to the error reporting machinery, which happens to be in XPConnect
2517. # [19:16] <@ehsan> yes
2518. # [19:16] <@ehsan> bholley: you're safe
2519. # [19:16] <@ehsan> (for now)
2520. # [19:16] <bholley> :-)
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2523. # [19:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bholley: <3
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2525. # [19:16] <bholley> <3
2526. # [19:16] <@ehsan> bholley: can we improve the error reporting there to give us a stack etc?
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2528. # [19:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> greeeeat, mochitest-bc on linux debug is timing out again. Now even 150min isn't enough.
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2531. # [19:18] <bholley> ehsan: maybe. Improving error reporting is surprisingly time consuming. I just spent some days on it ;-)
2532. # [19:18] <@ehsan> bholley: hmm, do you want me to file a bug at least?
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2535. # [19:18] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: why have we not split that suite yet? :(
2536. # [19:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> because we hit asserts when we do
2537. # [19:19] <bz> Spiff
2538. # [19:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and mochitest-bc is such a clusterfuck that nobody wants to touch it
2539. # [19:19] <bz> standalone? tests?
2540. # [19:19] <bholley> ehsan: feel free
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2542. # [19:19] <bz> s/mochitest-// ? ;)
2543. # [19:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bug 819963
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2545. # [19:20] <bholley> ehsan: if you look at bug 895548, you'll see there's already quite a lot on this plate
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2547. # [19:20] <@ehsan> bholley: well if that bug covers this case then I won't file a new one
2548. # [19:20] <bholley> ehsan: I don't know if it does or not
2549. # [19:20] <bholley> ehsan: in general, I've sorta given up about responsively handling error reporting issues
2550. # [19:20] <@ehsan> ok, I'll file one anyways :)
2551. # [19:20] <bholley> ehsan: I'm just working on improving the architecture and making it sane
2552. # [19:20] <@ehsan> oh :(
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2556. # [19:21] <bholley> ehsan: then, at some point, I'll go through all the bugs that weren't fixed by sanitizing the architecture and fix them
2557. # [19:21] <@ehsan> bholley: are spot fixes hard?
2558. # [19:21] <bholley> ehsan: depending on what they are. But often trying to spot-fix these things ends up breaking something else
2559. # [19:22] <bholley> ehsan: so I don't want to sink time into it unless it's clear to me that it's a move in the right direction
2560. # [19:22] <bholley> ehsan: like bug 872273, which I've spent the last few days on
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2563. # [19:22] <@ehsan> ok, fair enough
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2577. # [19:29] <gwagner> KWierso|afk: ping
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2580. # [19:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gwagner: fwiw, that bug is why IMO re-landings of big backouts should be handled by the developers who know the code
2581. # [19:30] <gwagner> RyanVM|sheriffduty: fine with me. I just try to understand how this happened
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2583. # [19:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I'm not sure how he did the re-landing
2584. # [19:31] <gwagner> RyanVM|sheriffduty: maybe we should back out the re-landing and back out the original back out?
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2588. # [19:34] <bz> I hear you like backouts so much, I backed out your backout?
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2596. # [19:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: something like that
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2616. # [19:46] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I need a test in OS X which triggers those warnings reliably
2617. # [19:46] <@ehsan> *errors
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2620. # [19:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: i linked to an OSX log in the bug, but you should be able to find it in any on tbpl
2621. # [19:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but I'm not sure if it's really test-specific or timing-related
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2623. # [19:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/df0f58eb2b6f - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 925437 - Implement navigator.onLine on Workers. r=khuey sr=sicking
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2634. # [19:49] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: well, I'm running content/base, and not seeing it :(
2635. # [19:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: my concern is that a callstack patch will blow the log size limit on tbpl given the number of instances hit during the run
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2638. # [19:49] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: well, we should first fix this one!
2639. # [19:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: maybe try a full run of one of the suites?
2640. # [19:50] <@ehsan> a full run of mochitest-1?
2641. # [19:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yes
2642. # [19:50] <@ehsan> that's not really practical
2643. # [19:50] <@ehsan> I need to use my machine :)
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2646. # [19:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: if you have a patch for callstack printing, you could run it through Try
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2648. # [19:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> even if the run hits 50MB and stops, you could probably still see it from what managed to finish
2649. # [19:51] <@ehsan> I don't have that patch
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2651. # [19:52] <@ehsan> the stack printing suggestion was an aside
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2654. # [19:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> oh, I thought it was the tool you were going to use for investigating
2655. # [19:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> darn
2656. # [19:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> do you have a VM you could run it under?
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2659. # [19:53] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: an OS X VM? ;)
2660. # [19:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> any platform reproduces ;)
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2662. # [19:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> debug seems to be the key
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2664. # [19:53] <@ehsan> I guess I can try on my linux nox
2665. # [19:53] <@ehsan> box, even
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2667. # [19:54] <sfink> osx newbie here -- how the f#@! do I install (activate) python 2.7? mach bootstrap insists on having it. But port won't let me deactivate python26 because random junk depends on it.
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2670. # [19:54] <bz> sfink: which OSX version?
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2672. # [19:54] <sfink> bz: how do I tell?
2673. # [19:55] <sfink> Darwin Kernel Version 10.5.0
2674. # [19:55] <sfink> says uname -a
2675. # [19:55] <bz> sfink: click the "apple" icon at top left and then select "about this mac"
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2677. # [19:55] <bz> sfink: but it sounds like you're on 10.6 or something
2678. # [19:55] <sfink> Version 10.6.5
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2681. # [19:56] <bz> hrm
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2683. # [19:56] <bz> You could deactive all ports depending on python26... :(
2684. # [19:56] <sfink> I just did a port upgrade outdated (went from hg 1.6 to 2.8!)
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2686. # [19:56] * bz ended up uninstalling the macports python, but he has python2.7.2 as the system python
2687. # [19:56] <sfink> deactivating xorg-libX11 scared me
2688. # [19:57] <bz> but I think on 10.6 your system python is 2.6
2689. # [19:57] <@ehsan> can't you just set PYTHON to point to the python you want?
2690. # [19:57] <sfink> I don't know. Where is it?
2691. # [19:57] <bz> sfink: it's not used by anything in practice. :(
2692. # [19:57] <@ehsan> sfink: /usr/bin/python?
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2695. # [19:57] * bz is pretty sure /usr/bin/python on 10.6 is 2.6
2696. # [19:57] <sfink> /usr/bin/python is 2.6
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2698. # [19:58] <sfink> where does port put its stuff?
2699. # [19:58] <sfink> I have 2.7 installed
2700. # [19:58] <jfkthame> under /opt
2701. # [19:58] <jfkthame> iirc
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2704. # [19:58] <jfkthame> see what /opt/local/bin/python is
2705. # [19:59] <bz> sfink: port work python27?
2706. # [19:59] <sfink> yeah, I have a /opt/local/bin/python2.7
2707. # [19:59] <bz> That might be good enough, then
2708. # [20:00] <sfink> setting PYTHON to it didn't make mach magically use it. Do I need to hack /usr/bin/python to link to it?
2709. # [20:00] <sfink> (or something else in my PATH, of course)
2710. # [20:00] <froydnj> $PYTHON mach foo ?
2711. # [20:00] <froydnj> or reconfigure?
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2713. # [20:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50e2f15969ec - Daniel Holbert - Bug 945063: Annotate storage/build and storage/test as FAIL_ON_WARNINGS. r=mak
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2720. # [20:03] <sfink> trying to configure is what got me into this mess! :)
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2724. # [20:04] <sfink> $PYTHON mach bootstrap seems to be getting me somewhere
2725. # [20:04] <gps> sfink: see inbound commit
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2727. # [20:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d804ca74785 - Gregory Szorc - NO BUG - Document how to install Python if your system fails you
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2729. # [20:04] <sfink> ooh!
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2731. # [20:05] <sfink> hrm. But getting python2.7 installed is not a problem; ports will do it. It just won't use it by default.
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2734. # [20:06] <gps> sfink: I'd just force PATH to have python2.7 first
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2737. # [20:06] <gps> 2.6 is end of lifed, so it makes little sense to continue using it if you have any choice in the matter
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2743. # [20:07] <gps> you should purge 2.6 from system installs, if possible
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2746. # [20:07] <bz> Do we try "python2.7" before trying "python"?
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2748. # [20:07] <sfink> yeah, I just need it to be under the name 'python', not 'python2.7'
2749. # [20:07] <gps> bz: yes
2750. # [20:07] <bz> huh
2751. # [20:07] <sfink> oh
2752. # [20:07] <sfink> then maybe that's good enouh
2753. # [20:07] <bz> sfink: did you not have /opt/local/bin in your path??
2754. # [20:07] <gps> symlink python2.7 somewhere in your PATH
2755. # [20:07] <sfink> bz: it was too late in PATH
2756. # [20:08] <sfink> as mach bootstrap helpfully told me
2757. # [20:08] <bz> why would that matter?
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2759. # [20:08] <gps> sfink: try running "python python/mozboot/bin/bootstrap.py"
2760. # [20:08] <sfink> not sure how; ~/.profile puts it at the beginning
2761. # [20:08] <bz> If we try "python2.7" before "python"?
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2763. # [20:08] <gps> mach bootstrap will hit a Python 2.7 error before invoking the bootstrap script
2764. # [20:08] <sfink> mach has #!/usr/bin/env python
2765. # [20:08] <sfink> that's not going to find a python2.7
2766. # [20:08] <gps> the bootstrap script itself is designed to work with python 2.6
2767. # [20:08] <bz> ok, then it's not trying python2.7 before python!
2768. # [20:08] <gps> mach is special
2769. # [20:08] <gps> entry points are special
2770. # [20:08] <sfink> (until I make a symlink in ~/bin, that is)
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2772. # [20:09] <bz> I mean, unless mach is manually walking the $PATH
2773. # [20:09] <gps> you can't have multiple shebangs :(
2774. # [20:09] <sfink> well, it may be special, but |./mach bootstrap| still says python 2.7 is required
2775. # [20:09] <bz> trying python2.7 and then python in the dirs one at a time....
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2777. # [20:09] <gps> we can try updating the shebang in ./mach
2778. # [20:09] <bz> as opposed to trying python2.7 no matter where in the PATH and then trying python?
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2780. # [20:10] <gps> not sure if everyone has python2.7 installed - "python" is always there
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2782. # [20:10] <gaston> gps: no sorry, not on openbsd ;)
2783. # [20:10] <gaston> that's actually the opposite...
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2785. # [20:10] <gaston> $./mach
2786. # [20:10] <gaston> env: python: Is a directory
2787. # [20:10] <bz> openbsd only has decimalpythons?
2788. # [20:11] <gps> so let's change mach's shebang
2789. # [20:11] <gaston> pythonX.Y only
2790. # [20:12] <gaston> we can do manual links in usr/local/bin for convenience but by default nothing provides 'python' in the $PATH
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2792. # [20:12] <gaston> and i think it's the same on FreeBSD but i lost access to my buildslave so cant confirm now..
2793. # [20:13] <gaston> i'm sure that for netbsd/pkgsrc there's no 'python' either, only python2.7
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2795. # [20:13] <sfink> I <3 mach bootstrap
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2797. # [20:14] <gaston> me too, if only hg cloning was working more often...
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2799. # [20:15] <gaston> last times i had to setup a new machine i always ended up fetching a bundle
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2801. # [20:15] <sfink> maybe mach needs to incorporate hgtool? :) Or maybe not :)
2802. # [20:15] <sfink> that was ambiguous
2803. # [20:15] <gps> gaston: my personal server at http://hg.gregoryszorc.com/ can clone 30% faster than hg.mozilla.org :)
2804. # [20:15] <sfink> I'm not sure that's such a bad idea
2805. # [20:16] <gps> sfink: what is hgtool?
2806. # [20:16] <sfink> it's what releng uses to do clones. It does retries and uses bundles and mirrors semi-automagically.
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2808. # [20:17] <gps> oh right
2809. # [20:18] <sfink> http://hg.mozilla.org/build/tools/buildfarm/utils/hgtool.py or http://hg.mozilla.org/build/mozharness/mozharness/base/vcs/hgtool.py
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2817. # [20:23] <Waldo> derf: we can always hope that we've updated to gcc 4.6 by the time that would need to be upstreamed, I guess :-\
2818. # [20:23] <derf> Waldo: Haha.
2819. # [20:23] <derf> I mean, even Android supports 4.6 now.
2820. # [20:24] <Waldo> shoot me now
2821. # [20:24] <NeilAway> is it possible to run a single reftest for debugging purposes?
2822. # [20:24] <Waldo> anyway, I'll land that now
2823. # [20:25] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, write your own manifest
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2838. # [20:32] <firebot> Check-in:
2839. # [20:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5735c0b01f19 - Bert Belder - Bug 956899 - Use mozilla::ThreadLocal instead of NSPR for ForkJoinSlice's thread-local variable, and use it in all cases, not just threadsafe, for simplicity. Also do
2840. # [20:32] <firebot> some slight style-fix renaming. r=jwalden
2841. # [20:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf438acafb72 - Bert Belder - Bug 956899 - Use "||" as a preprocessor operator rather than the non-standard "or". r=jwalden
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2843. # [20:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/12cf6a6c5c9a - Bert Belder - Bug 956899 - Remove unused stack-base-address tracking code from the JS shell. r=jwalden
2844. # [20:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2383c11de7c1 - Bert Belder - Bug 956899 - Fix compilation failure when JS_GC_ZEAL isn't defined. r=terrence
2845. # [20:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46f4a621a23d - Jeff Walden - Bug 938092 - Building with gcc4.5 fails if both --enable-webrtc and --enable-tests. r=tterribe
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2848. # [20:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f99c42bb080e - Honza Bambas - Bug 942835 - HTTP cache v2: Better CacheEntry purge prevention, r=michal
2849. # [20:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2fa2d1bee6fd - Honza Bambas - Bug 937601 - HTTP cache v2: onCacheEntryCheck not called for R/O callbacks, r=michal
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2852. # [20:35] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, you know, nothing will happen, and we'll have the same discussion next month
2853. # [20:35] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, enjoy that thought
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2856. # [20:37] <Archaeopteryx> sid0: nice blog post by you about Mercurial at Facebook. https://code.facebook.com/posts/218678814984400/scaling-mercurial-at-facebook/
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2860. # [20:38] <Waldo> aaagh
2861. # [20:39] <Waldo> stupid googletest doesn't use an issue tracker
2862. # [20:39] <Waldo> or at least they don't monitor the one they have
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2870. # [20:41] <gcp_> Archaeopteryx: interesting
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2872. # [20:42] * Archaeopteryx still has to benchmark qref on his old vs. new systems. feels like 20 minutes vs. 1 second
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2875. # [20:42] <Waldo> aaagh, and you have to join their group to post
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2877. # [20:43] <@ted> Waldo: google open source projects are pretty terrible
2878. # [20:43] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: are there docs for that?
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2880. # [20:43] <@ted> google code's issue tracker is worthless and they usually ignore it anyway
2881. # [20:43] <@ted> they generally have a rietveld instance they use for code review
2882. # [20:44] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, ?
2883. # [20:44] <@ted> Waldo: the only advice i can give you is to find someone working on it and ping them
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2887. # [20:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6b05f2b6391d - Steven Michaud - Bug 956931 - ICU linker error doing 32-bit and universal builds. r=mshal
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2897. # [20:50] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: well, presumably I test the test path to the dummy manifest, but how do I debug?
2898. # [20:50] <Ms2ger> Not sure, I never run reftests
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2904. # [20:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> kats: ping
2905. # [20:51] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: pong
2906. # [20:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> kats: but 947523 says 28 is affected too
2907. # [20:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but just land on b2g26?
2908. # [20:52] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah, just b2g26
2909. # [20:52] <kats> we have a follow-up bug that will cover 28/1.3+
2910. # [20:52] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: we can mark this one wontfix for 28 if that makes it easier
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2934. # [21:03] <sid0> Archaeopteryx: thanks\
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2942. # [21:04] <mjrosenb> is there a setting to treat unknown protocols as 'do a search'?
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2945. # [21:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: ping
2946. # [21:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> kats: i'll set it accordingly when I land on b2g26
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2949. # [21:05] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: sounds good, thanks
2950. # [21:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: ping
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2953. # [21:06] <kats> smaug: you should get a b2g phone!
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2956. # [21:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: ever since bug 956806 hit inbound, osx 10.6 mochitest-bc has been hitting this - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32710086&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
2957. # [21:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: nearly every run since
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2960. # [21:08] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: pong
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2962. # [21:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: was wondering if you had any thoughts about the above on 10.6
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2973. # [21:11] <@smaug> kats: I have one old one
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2975. # [21:12] <@smaug> kats: and I've been asking to get a new dogfooding phone, but I've been told there aren't such devices atm
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2977. # [21:12] <sfink> mjrosenb: I made a 'gg' keyword search go to Google, so at least I can prefix those with "gg " and they'll work
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2979. # [21:13] <Ms2ger> gg
2980. # [21:13] <sfink> otherwise, I don't use the keyword
2981. # [21:13] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: given the one on m-c and the two on f-t overnight, I'll be surprised if you can pin those four on 956806, but I'm often surprised
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2983. # [21:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yeah, just seems like it got way worse
2984. # [21:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but as crappy as it's been otherwise...
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2990. # [21:14] <mjrosenb> I wonder if I could just tell firefox that the protocol 'error:' means search with google.
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2992. # [21:15] <mjrosenb> ooh, better yet
2993. # [21:15] <mjrosenb> search stack exchange.
2994. # [21:15] <mjrosenb> stack overflow?
2995. # [21:15] <mjrosenb> whatever that site is.-
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3024. # [21:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: ping
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3026. # [21:25] * Waldo hmms at that orange hopefully being intermittent
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3033. # [21:26] <mjrosenb> [115221.910909] general protection fault: 0000 [#1] SMP
3034. # [21:26] <mjrosenb> [115221.911353] CPU: 5 PID: 25525 Comm: hg Not tainted 3.12-1-amd64 #1 Debian 3.12.6-2
3035. # [21:27] <mjrosenb> ... did hg just induce a GPF?
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3037. # [21:27] <Waldo> clever girl
3038. # [21:28] <froydnj> *rawr*!
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3041. # [21:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: I'm going to back it out on the merge. Can't hurt.
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3043. # [21:29] <mjrosenb> I think that gpf also took out firefox.
3044. # [21:29] <mjrosenb> it would appear as if I need a new m-c *and* a reboot.
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3046. # [21:30] <@ted> ...and maybe some new ram
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3051. # [21:34] <mjrosenb> ted: that would not make me happy
3052. # [21:34] <mjrosenb> although, I guess I could finally upgrade my laptop to 16 gigs?
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3055. # [21:35] <@ted> it's probably just as likely to be some other component though
3056. # [21:35] <mjrosenb> ted: I could also use more disk space...
3057. # [21:36] <@ted> this is a win-win
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3059. # [21:37] <mjrosenb> ahh.
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3062. # [21:37] <mjrosenb> all disk accesses are hanging.
3063. # [21:37] <mjrosenb> I suppose I should have seen this coming.
3064. # [21:37] * mjrosenb grumbles about not running this remote-package-update in screen
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3067. # [21:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5ebb4c3f51e8 - Trevor Saunders - bug 886208 - don't force editor creation in HyperTextAccessible::NativeState() r=surkov
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3070. # [21:40] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ping
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3073. # [21:41] <jcranmer> Waldo: hopefully I'll get to UniquePtr this week
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3075. # [21:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: pong
3076. # [21:43] * geekboy is now known as geekboy|afk
3077. # [21:43] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: so basically you got test timeouts on 10.6 bc ?
3078. # [21:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: mostly the one specifically
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3080. # [21:44] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: <sigh>
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3082. # [21:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: don't get me wrong, it wasn't great before either
3083. # [21:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but it does seem to have gotten worse
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3085. # [21:45] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: That's really odd.
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3088. # [21:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&jobname=Rev4%20MacOSX%20Snow%20Leopard%2010.6%20mozilla-inbound%20debug%20test%20mochitest-browser-chrome&fromchange=7c991409dc20&tochange=tip
3089. # [21:45] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: This patch should not have made stuff noticeably slower.... :(
3090. # [21:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: and this is the joys of mochitest-bc sucking hard
3091. # [21:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> in honesty, who the hell knows
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3093. # [21:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it basically went from already sucking to sucking worse
3094. # [21:46] <froydnj> bz: hey, a great testcase for figuring out how that patch makes things slower! ;)
3095. # [21:46] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I see what you mean about near-permaorange....
3096. # [21:46] <bz> froydnj: except I measured and it doesn't? ;)
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3099. # [21:47] <froydnj> bleh, that only happens on 10.6?
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3101. # [21:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9db7cf4cc385 - Neil Rashbrook - Bug 514173 Make literal string buffers shareable r=dbaron,ehsan,bholley
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3103. # [21:48] <NeilAway> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ^^^ this one has been through try :-)
3104. # [21:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: we'll see if things improve with the backout. I'm not horribly optimistic
3105. # [21:48] <bz> so wait
3106. # [21:48] <bz> it wasn't the total run that exceeded the threshold?
3107. # [21:48] <bz> Just the one test?
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3109. # [21:49] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: if it doesn't, I win and can reland, eh? ;)
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3111. # [21:50] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: but the world loses....
3112. # [21:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: pretty much
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3114. # [21:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: "Ryan, can you please get somebody to fix the js engine there?"
3115. # [21:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lolwut?
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3117. # [21:51] <Waldo> jcranmer: and hopefully I'll get to your mutex/whichever thing this week :-\
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3120. # [21:51] <jcranmer> Waldo: fwiw, I'm using the C++1y draft right now
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3124. # [21:52] <Waldo> yeah, I need to grab myself a copy of that
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3126. # [21:53] <jcranmer> http://isocpp.org/files/papers/N3797.pdf
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3128. # [21:53] <jcranmer> I don't have a saved copy on my desktop yet
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3130. # [21:54] <jcranmer> but I'm waiting for it to go out to the member body plenary or whatever first
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3135. # [21:55] <jld> Maybe I should've read all the style guide threads on dev.platform after all, given that I just got a review that was approximately half "stars on the left" by weight. (Oops.)
3136. # [21:56] <bz> where stars go varies by module. :(
3137. # [21:56] <jld> So that'd be the thread about having too many style guides, I guess.
3138. # [21:56] <mjrosenb> you mean int *x vs. int* x?
3139. # [21:56] <jld> Yes.
3140. # [21:56] <bz> yes
3141. # [21:57] <bz> int * x
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3143. # [21:57] <bz> int x*, I say
3144. # [21:57] <mjrosenb> int*x,*y,(*z)();
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3147. # [21:58] <Waldo> template<typename T> using ptr = T*;
3148. # [21:58] <dholbert> I ran across some old code in the past few days that uses "return(NS_OK);" extensively
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3150. # [21:58] <jcranmer> Waldo: I can't wait until we can use templated aliases :-/
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3152. # [21:58] <Waldo> jcranmer: 'tis true
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3154. # [21:58] <Waldo> mozilla/Vector.h is horribly gunked up for that
3155. # [21:58] * mjrosenb skips the bs, runs init 6
3156. # [21:58] <Waldo> UniquePtr has the same desire
3157. # [21:59] <jcranmer> MSVC 2013/gcc 4.7 min though
3158. # [21:59] <Waldo> which may be part of why you mentioned it :-)
3159. # [21:59] <Waldo> yeah, not holding breath
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3161. # [21:59] <Waldo> for Vector the base-class hackaround wasn't unreasonable
3162. # [21:59] <froydnj> wait, what does that template using statement do?
3163. # [21:59] <Waldo> for UniquePtr it'd be insane
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3165. # [21:59] <jesup> gerv: ping
3166. # [21:59] <Waldo> froydnj: ptr<int> is an alias to int*
3167. # [21:59] <Waldo> if I remembered the syntax correctly
3168. # [21:59] <jcranmer> I haven't made it out of DefaultDelete yet
3169. # [22:00] <gerv> jesup: pong.
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3172. # [22:00] <froydnj> that seems...odd
3173. # [22:00] <NeilAway> anyone got any good tips for debugging reftests?
3174. # [22:01] <jcranmer> std::chrono is an interesting API
3175. # [22:01] <jcranmer> when I first saw it, I thought it was horribly overengineered
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3177. # [22:01] <jcranmer> when I tried actually implementing what I thought was the proper version
3178. # [22:01] <jcranmer> I effectively ended up back at the std::chrono API
3179. # [22:02] <Waldo> froydnj: that case is a little screwy; a more interesting case might be |namespace JS { template<typename T, size_t N = 0, mozilla::AccessPolicy = js::SystemAllocPolicy> using Vector = mozilla::Vector<T, N, AP>; }|
3180. # [22:02] <Waldo> froydnj: which would let JS::Vector have different defaults from mozilla::Vector
3181. # [22:02] <Waldo> maybe with typename sprinkling
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3183. # [22:02] <jld> Also, I correctly predicted that the reason for the "review not granted" in my bugmail was a memory management mistake that wouldn't have happened in Rust.
3184. # [22:03] <froydnj> Waldo: that is a little more interesting
3185. # [22:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed17bd48a68b - Andreas Tolfsen - Bug 957162 - Marionette Wait's should indicate timeout duration. r=davehunt
3186. # [22:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a13c7459626 - Guilherme Gonçalves - Bug 732923 - CoreLocation provider shouldn't implement nsIGeolocationUpdate. r=jdm
3187. # [22:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e38fe010128 - Max Li - Bug 935196 - Bootstrap doesn't have MacPorts url for 10.9. r=gps
3188. # [22:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57e1604ca1b2 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 758997 - Trim and replace newlines with spaces for the title part of the text/x-moz-url flavor data. r=bz
3189. # [22:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44ad28c2159e - Guilherme Gonçalves - Bug 732923 - Make watchPosition timeouts adhere to spec. r=jdm
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3191. # [22:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d6cee5b1223 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 946632 - Don't scroll vertically by mouse-wheel on a single-line text control. r=bz
3192. # [22:04] <Waldo> froydnj: the same thing will apply to UniquePtr, possibly, where in JS-land we might want a UniquePtr<T, js_free> sort of default for the deleter
3193. # [22:04] <Waldo> instead of using the global operator delete
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3198. # [22:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8845a4fd9642 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 953334. Clear the clip on the surface when we get a new DC. r=BenWa
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3204. # [22:08] <Waldo> in the meantime lots of code might have to use mozilla::UniquePtr<T, JS::FreePolicy> or something, which isn't the end of the world, but is extra typing, relatively easy to forget
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3218. # [22:13] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: that crash prevents me from debugging the mochitest run...
3219. # [22:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: I guess I'm saying that I'm not sure my word carries more weight around here than yours does :)
3220. # [22:14] * froydnj r?'s RyanVM|sheriffduty on a tree-wide refactoring patch to find out
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3223. # [22:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lol
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3229. # [22:16] <Waldo> froydnj: also regarding the "more interesting" case, that means that mozilla::Vector and JS::Vector would be things that could be passed between each other; right now they both inherit from mozilla::VectorBase, but because they're different types you can't write a method, taking a vector-typed argument, that handles both of them -- at least, not without a bunch of moderately-duplicate code...
3230. # [22:16] <Waldo> ...or duplicate-ish instantiations of templates or similar
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3232. # [22:18] <jcranmer> that's another thing I don't like about STL
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3235. # [22:19] <Waldo> which?
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3261. # [22:28] <jcranmer> the fact that there's no easy way to say "any vector-like container can be passed in here"
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3266. # [22:31] <sunfish> jcranmer: http://llvm.org/docs/doxygen/html/classllvm_1_1ArrayRef.html
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3275. # [22:31] <jcranmer> I'm well aware of what LLVM does
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3287. # [22:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> innnnnteresting, I see workers stuff in the range for the mochitest shutdown hangs
3288. # [22:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?fromchange=8aa46cd4c63c&tochange=b1e5ade62913
3289. # [22:38] <mshal> anyone else having trouble with github?
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3293. # [22:39] <fabrice> everyone
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3299. # [22:41] <NeilAway> anyone got any good ideas for running code between DOMContentLoaded and onload?
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3319. # [22:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/4a876256830e - Federico Paolinelli - Bug 957120 - Fix the when parameter in order to be expressed in millisecs. r=wesj, a=bajaj
3320. # [22:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0366c03687fa - Mark Finkle - Bug 949913 - Don't store page refreshes as history visits. r=blassey, a=bajaj
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3322. # [22:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c14b5cb7d00e - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 950719 - Update Bing search icon to 32x32. r=mfinkle, a=bajaj
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3325. # [22:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/9847fa0e68e4 - Shane Caraveo - Bug 956907 - Fix the state of the icons used for marks. r=markh, a=bajaj
3326. # [22:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ff7059bb9c3e - Mark Finkle - Bug 949639 - Move CanAddURI to nsAndroidHistory. r=blassey, a=bajaj
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3334. # [22:56] <edwin> Anybody else getting "fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly" trying to pull from github?
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3337. # [22:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> edwin: others have been complaining about github recently, yes
3338. # [22:57] <edwin> Weirdly, it does that to me with git:// URIs, but not https://
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3341. # [22:57] <edwin> Ah, ok
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3345. # [22:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/550e27c525de - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 957487 - |mach valgrind-test|: Use --vex-iropt-register-updates=allregs-at-mem-access. r=gkw.
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3350. # [23:01] <nrc> edwin: https://status.github.com/
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3352. # [23:02] <edwin> GitHub is down?
3353. # [23:02] <edwin> They can't do that.
3354. # [23:02] <edwin> What does that even mean?!
3355. # [23:03] <nrc> it means you should host your own repos
3356. # [23:03] <edwin> Heh, "offline for unscheduled maintenance."
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3364. # [23:06] <Waldo> mm, mercurial
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3383. # [23:11] <@bz> RyanVM: did the backout help?
3384. # [23:11] <@bz> RyanVM: Or do we not know yet?
3385. # [23:11] <RyanVM> bz: heh, you're funny
3386. # [23:11] <RyanVM> mbc takes nearly 2.5hr to run once it starts
3387. # [23:11] <RyanVM> (on 10.6 debug)
3388. # [23:11] <@bz> RyanVM: Right, that's what I thought
3389. # [23:11] <@bz> But I can't recall how long ago the backout was
3390. # [23:11] <froydnj> efaust|EST: thanks for doing those reviews! I'll probably redo parts 2 and 3 to do something more like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=952777#c30
3391. # [23:12] <RyanVM> bz: 88min to go according to tbpl
3392. # [23:12] <@bz> RyanVM: mmm
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3399. # [23:14] <efaust|EST> froydnj: are we that strapped for binary size? it's b2g, I assume?
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3401. # [23:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b9ca7a6f891a - Honza Bambas - Bug 942835 - Better CacheEntry purge prevention followup, r=michal
3402. # [23:15] <froydnj> efaust|EST: I don't know that I'd say "strapped", but smaller is always nice
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3405. # [23:16] <froydnj> ...and it is a nice win on b2g regardless
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3422. # [23:22] <firebot> ehsan was last seen 69 minutes and 24 seconds ago, saying 'RyanVM|sheriffduty: that crash prevents me from debugging the mochitest run...' in #developers.
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3449. # [23:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8342bfb3ef52 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 956046: Allow adjacent anonymous flex items if we've reordered items with the "order" property. r=dbaron
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3468. # [23:42] <azakai> what component should i file a bug about ghost windows into?
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3474. # [23:43] <@smaug> azakai: DOM
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3476. # [23:43] <azakai> thanks smaug
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3478. # [23:43] <@smaug> cc me and mccr8
3479. # [23:43] <dholbert> azakai, Core::Spooky
3480. # [23:43] <azakai> heh
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3482. # [23:43] <@njn> bz: ping
3483. # [23:43] <mccr8> azakai: also, see bug 951491
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3486. # [23:44] <azakai> mccr8: ah that looks like it might be it, thanks
3487. # [23:44] <@njn> bz: if I want to convert xpcom/base/nsIMemoryReporter.idl to webIDL, what do I have to do? particularly in terms of build system plumbing... all our existing .webidl files are in dom/webidl/...
3488. # [23:45] <mccr8> azakai: we're kind of stuck right now. we need some kind of minimization or disabling of features or something to zoom in on what might be causing it...
3489. # [23:45] <@njn> azakai: it's not on Monseter Madness, is it?
3490. # [23:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cad9ce8315a4 - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 919244 - Leakproof gUMRunnable + OnNavigation cleanup of MediaManager::mActiveCallbacks. r=jesup
3491. # [23:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/010f5faed9cf - Milan Sreckovic - Bug 956796 - A bad assertion and a typo in the pref name cancelled each other. Fix, and create #defines for the pref names in this file to avoid problems like this.
3492. # [23:45] <firebot> r=bgirard
3493. # [23:45] <azakai> mccr8, njn: no, i see it on something much much smaller and simpler, hoping that will help. posting in the bug now
3494. # [23:45] <mccr8> great!
3495. # [23:45] <@njn> azakai: excellent
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3501. # [23:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e176126d2b42 - Olli Pettay - Bug 953435 - Browser hang on Mac if an AfterProcessNextEvent callback tries to spin the event loop, r=nfroyd+smichaud
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3506. # [23:51] <ekr_> KWierso|sheriffduty: potential bustage on m-i https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3969574
3507. # [23:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/49c6393d37f3 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 907179 - Label the velocity vector as being in screen units. r=botond
3508. # [23:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f522af059d3 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 907179 - Rewrite the displayport calculation to be simpler and more effective. r=botond
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3511. # [23:52] <ekr_> KWierso|sheriffduty: this appears to be the offending patch https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/010f5faed9cf9da0703cc69258aceec07a865b89
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3520. # [23:56] <Fallen> who would I email if I see potentially negative things about Mozilla on wikipedia? There is an article that talks about Mozilla's values which has quite a negative bias
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3522. # [23:57] <Fallen> Probably needs someone good at these kinds of things to add some more positive content
3523. # [23:57] <Fallen> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla#Values
3524. # [23:57] <@bz> Fallen: Maybe start with mailing gerv?
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3526. # [23:58] <Fallen> ah yes, sounds good. Maybe I am lucky and he is here :-)
3527. # [23:58] <Fallen> thanks
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3531. # [23:59] <@bz> Fallen: good luck
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