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3. # [00:00] <ekr_> KWierso|sheriffduty: ping?
4. # [00:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a3e51bf999b - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 010f5faed9cf (bug 956796) for build bustage
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8. # [00:01] <KWierso|sheriffduty> ekr_: ^
9. # [00:01] <ekr_> KWierso|sheriffduty: thanks
10. # [00:01] <dmajor> khuey, get your x240 yet?
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13. # [00:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8e8e69473e91 - Steven Michaud - Bug 956310 - DMD builds fail on Mac OS X. r=bgirard
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30. # [00:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/114c763763b0 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 945074 - Give continuing nsFirstLetterFrame child a style context that inherits from what the nsFirstLetterFrame inherits from. r=dbaron
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48. # [00:17] <heycam> search is failing me. what's the wiki page that describes our unpreffing policy for features, and talks about sending intent to implement mails?
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55. # [00:19] <@ted> heycam: i was just looking at this
56. # [00:19] <KWierso|sheriffduty> heycam: https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/ExposureGuidelines ?
57. # [00:19] <heycam> that's the one
58. # [00:19] <heycam> thanks :)
59. # [00:19] <@ted> yeah, that
60. # [00:20] <heycam> wiki search sucks
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62. # [00:20] <@ted> assuming you can even find the right wiki
63. # [00:20] <heycam> that too
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65. # [00:21] * KWierso|sheriffduty searched bing for "mozilla wiki prefixing" :)
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70. # [00:25] <heycam> the QA contact field exists only for me to accidentally click on its "take" link instead of the assignee field, doesn't it
71. # [00:26] <@bz> heh
72. # [00:27] <@bz> heycam: Also to pretend like we have QA contacts?
73. # [00:27] <heycam> bz, I get QA people contacting me sometimes, though not usually through the QA contact field
74. # [00:27] <heycam> people who contact me on IRC while I'm offline but whose name isn't in mozillians.org :
75. # [00:27] <heycam> :(
76. # [00:28] <@bz> heycam: heh
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88. # [00:32] <@njn> bz: I've created a new .webidl file, and it's getting processed, but the .cpp output is almost empty
89. # [00:33] <@njn> bz: as is the .h output
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95. # [00:34] <@njn> bz: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3969757 is the output
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98. # [00:34] <@njn> bz: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3969758 is the input
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106. # [00:38] <mccr8> njn: maybe nothing is referring to that type and we don't generate anything for it? I know that happens for interfaces, I don't know about callbacks
107. # [00:38] <@bz> njn: we don't codegen callbacks unless something uses them
108. # [00:38] <@njn> mccr8: I assumed we weren't that clever :)
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110. # [00:38] <@njn> bz: aha, I assumed wrongly
111. # [00:38] <@njn> thanks
112. # [00:38] <@njn> bz: is mixing webidl and xpidl problematic?
113. # [00:38] <mccr8> there's some kind of fake .webidl file you can dump things in that you are working on
114. # [00:38] <@bz> njn: if you don't have an interface that plans to use this callback, you can add it in DummyBinding.webidl to force codegen
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116. # [00:39] <@bz> njn: just so it's available in C++ and whatnot
117. # [00:39] <mccr8> ah, dummy not fake, right.
118. # [00:39] <@njn> bz: I will have one eventually, I just wanted to test the plumbing was working
119. # [00:39] <@bz> njn: mixing... it depends on how you mix them
120. # [00:39] <@bz> njn: What do you plan?
121. # [00:39] <@njn> bz: converting nsIMemoryReporter.idl to webidl
122. # [00:39] <@njn> bz: should I try to do it in one hit, or piecemeal?
123. # [00:39] <@njn> bz: that file has several interfaces
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127. # [00:40] <mccr8> one piece is probably better. I think that's the usual approach.
128. # [00:40] <@khuey> dmajor: no :(
129. # [00:41] <@njn> mccr8: doing nsIMemoryReporter and nsIMemoryReporterCallback at the same time is probably sensible...
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132. # [00:41] <@njn> bz: and no |nsI| prefix for WebIDL interfaces, AFAICT?
133. # [00:41] <@bz> njn: correct
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135. # [00:41] <@bz> njn: one piece is likely simpler if they need to interact with each other
136. # [00:41] <@bz> njn: though webidl can use xpidl interface arguments and return values
137. # [00:41] <@njn> bz: the former refers to the latter
138. # [00:42] <@bz> njn: just not vice versa
139. # [00:42] <@bz> njn: (in that using webidl types in xpidl is a PITA)
140. # [00:42] <@njn> ok, thans
141. # [00:42] <@bz> No problem
142. # [00:42] <@bz> ok, dinner
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147. # [00:44] <dmajor> khuey: I borrowed one from downstairs. Love the screen but can't stand the trackpad :(
148. # [00:44] <nrc> njn: you might like http://feeds.hanselman.com/~/53894355/0/scotthanselman~Finding-a-lowmemory-browser.aspx
149. # [00:45] <nrc> "Nice. Some excellent memory optimization work happening at Mozilla it seems"
150. # [00:45] <@khuey> dmajor: yeah, the new track pad is weird
151. # [00:45] <@khuey> I usually use the nub
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154. # [00:45] <dmajor> khuey: me too. that's why I hate not having discrete buttons anymore
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156. # [00:46] <@khuey> yeah
157. # [00:46] <@njn> nrc: neat
158. # [00:46] <@khuey> nrc: yeah, we're pretty awesome
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160. # [00:46] <@njn> khuey: especially if you only measure at startup, and not after running a long session
161. # [00:47] <@njn> khuey: or after closing lots of tabs
162. # [00:47] <nrc> us++
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164. # [00:48] <@khuey> njn: sssh
165. # [00:48] <@njn> khuey: which fortunately, is how most people measure
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170. # [00:50] <jcranmer> I'm using 700M
171. # [00:50] <jcranmer> having C++1y open in a pdf.js tab might be causing a bit of that
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173. # [00:51] <jcranmer> ... like 37.57% of that?
174. # [00:51] <@smaug> njn: well, I can't even use Chrome the way I use FF because it would use all the memory way before I had opened as many tabs as I have in FF...
175. # [00:51] <@smaug> and I restart FF very rarely.
176. # [00:51] <@smaug> I don't see mem leaked too badly
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178. # [00:51] <@smaug> (except now that webrtc thing)
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180. # [00:52] <@njn> smaug: how many tabs do you use, typically?
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182. # [00:52] <@smaug> 100+
183. # [00:52] <@smaug> 100-150
184. # [00:52] <@njn> smaug: I've heard many times that Chrome can't handle more than ~60-70 well
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186. # [00:52] <@njn> smaug: if you close all those tabs and re-measure, FF's memory consumption will still be fairly high; much higher than startup
187. # [00:52] <@smaug> sure
188. # [00:52] <@njn> smaug: chrome does better on that metric, because of multi-process
189. # [00:52] <jcranmer> people have bad memory
190. # [00:53] <@smaug> njn: yup
191. # [00:53] <jcranmer> they remember the announcements of how much better Chrome was than FF on memory usage when Chrome was first announced
192. # [00:53] <jcranmer> they don't bother to follow-up on years-old statistics
193. # [00:53] <@njn> jcranmer: a bad reputation is hard to lose
194. # [00:53] <jcranmer> ask IE :-)
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198. # [00:54] <jcranmer> │ ├──104.38 MB (25.61%) ── waste
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205. # [01:00] <Jesse> i don't have much waste, but i do have a lot of unclassified
206. # [01:00] <Jesse> 161.46 MB (33.35%) ── heap-unclassified
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211. # [01:02] <NeilAway> njn: out of interest, why do you want to convert nsIMemoryReporter to WebIDL?
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226. # [01:12] <@njn> NeilAway: I want to use an array of strings as the argument to one function
227. # [01:12] <@njn> NeilAway: apparently this is very hard in XPIDL, but simple in WebIDL
228. # [01:13] <gwagner> any sherifs around?
229. # [01:13] <KWierso|sheriffduty> gwagner: hi
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231. # [01:14] <NeilAway> njn: which way are you passing the strings?
232. # [01:14] <gwagner> KWierso|sheriffduty: hey! so I want to reland 3 patches that accidentally got backed out by a bad merge
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234. # [01:15] <gwagner> KWierso|sheriffduty: I want to land on b2g-inbound. just a head up because those bugs are marked fixed
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237. # [01:15] <KWierso|sheriffduty> gwagner: go for it
238. # [01:15] <gwagner> KWierso|sheriffduty: I could give you the bug numbers if you want to do it
239. # [01:15] <gwagner> but I have them already applied so I just have to push
240. # [01:16] <KWierso|sheriffduty> gwagner: just push them :)
241. # [01:16] <@njn> NeilAway: I don't understand the question
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243. # [01:17] <@njn> NeilAway: but currently, memory reporter paths are encoded as '/' separated strings, e.g. "a/b/c"
244. # [01:17] <@njn> NeilAway: ["a", "b", "c"] would simplify lots of things
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246. # [01:18] <NeilAway> njn: well, what language(s) are the caller and callee and which way are the strings being passed?
247. # [01:18] <gwagner> KWierso|sheriffduty: done
248. # [01:18] <@njn> NeilAway: JS and C++ in both case
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250. # [01:19] <@njn> NeilAway: and it's all passed in
251. # [01:19] <@njn> (no outparams)
252. # [01:19] <jcranmer> this is why I want to see someone add sequence<T> to xpidl
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257. # [01:20] <NeilAway> njn: well, that doesn't sound to bad to do in xpidl, as long as you're ok with the strings being null-terminated char(16_t) pointers
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259. # [01:20] <@njn> NeilAway: don't keep me guessing
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261. # [01:21] <NeilAway> njn: hmm, currently AUTF8String, well, that's not ideal
262. # [01:21] <@njn> NeilAway: bz said converting to webidl was the best approach
263. # [01:22] <jcranmer> trying to call JS-implemented WebIDL from C++ is a pain in the rear
264. # [01:22] <NeilAway> jcranmer: the JS is a callback, I think, so not quite the same
265. # [01:22] <ewong> can someone point out what this error means and whatI can do to fix it? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3969987 this is on a CentOS 6.3 system
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267. # [01:23] <NeilAway> njn: so it's just the memory reporter manager and the callback you're converting? I suppose that might work
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269. # [01:24] <@njn> NeilAway: I don't know what I'm doing, just trying stuff
270. # [01:25] <NeilAway> njn: hah, you tell me, I'm trying to write a minimal test case for something that a website does and failing badly
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273. # [01:27] <froydnj> ewong: it probably means you've compiled something in libxul without -fPIC
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275. # [01:29] <NeilAway> froydnj: I thought -fPIC was sprinkled everywhere. I certainly see it in that pastebin
276. # [01:29] <froydnj> ewong: er, libnptest, I suppose
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278. # [01:30] <froydnj> NeilAway: well, that's for the link command, and that doesn't matter for this bit
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280. # [01:31] <ewong> so I need to add a -fPIC in libnptest?
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285. # [01:33] <ewong> err during the g++ there is a -fPIC
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287. # [01:33] <ewong> then it rm -f libnptest.so
288. # [01:34] <NeilAway> froydnj: well, -fPIC gets added to COMPILE_CXXFLAGS via DSO_PIC_CFLAGS
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290. # [01:34] <ewong> I have no idea what the next line does
291. # [01:35] <ewong> am I including enough buildlog to determine what failed?
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293. # [01:36] <ewong> gcc is 4.7.2
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297. # [01:41] <ewong> correction.. I'm using gcc 4.5.2
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300. # [01:42] <ewong> nvm.. I fudged the symlink.. it's actually 4.7.2
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309. # [01:48] <decoder> njn: i successfully reproduced your asan issue with that xpc thingy
310. # [01:48] <decoder> ill try to figure out whats wrong
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320. # [01:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa0974f18345 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 951556. Don't do multiple flushes due to DrawBufferWithRotation. r=mattwoodrow
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324. # [01:58] <@gavin> baku|away: what happened to bug 923247?
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347. # [02:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/55c0b8b56600 - Brandon Benvie - Bug 947544 - Fix intermittent in the Shader Editor test browser_se_bfcache.js. r=vp
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361. # [02:16] <fabrice> !seen cvan
362. # [02:16] <firebot> cvan was last seen 3 hours, 4 minutes and 28 seconds ago, saying 'krupa would know best' in #marketplace.
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373. # [02:21] <Dwight_Stegall> !seen willpitenger
374. # [02:21] <firebot> I've never seen a 'willpitenger', sorry.
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376. # [02:22] <firebot> I've never seen a 'willpitinger', sorry.
377. # [02:23] <Dwight_Stegall> !mozbackup
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384. # [02:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2645530519bb - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset c260f6234cc1 (bug 952543) for xpcshell orange
385. # [02:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f94b4d3fb9cf - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 951403 - [Australis] Disable browser_885052_customize_mode_observers_disabed.js on OSX for frequent failures.
386. # [02:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c260f6234cc1 - Irving Reid - Bug 952543 - Record add-on manager start up exceptions in Telemetry. r=mossop
387. # [02:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e8f3be56612d - Steven MacLeod - Bug 945667 - Disable failing portion of browser_aboutHome.js and enable the dependent tests. r=gavin
388. # [02:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/711f08b0aa1d - Wes Kocher - Merge fx-team to m-c
389. # [02:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1199a2ef815b - Michael Comella - Bug 956858: Make menu inaccessible during editing mode. r=wesj
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392. # [02:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ac385aa66e48 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 897268 - need finalized artwork for Australis Bookmarks Menu, r=mdeboer
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400. # [02:30] <bholley> ehsan: yt?
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403. # [02:31] <@dbaron> hmmm... did drag & drop of links break?
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405. # [02:32] <bholley> suppose I have nsIFoo : nsIBar. I have nsFoo : public nsIFoo, and I want to do nsBar: public nsFoo, public nsIBar
406. # [02:32] <bholley> can I do that?
407. # [02:32] <bholley> dbaron: ^
408. # [02:32] <@dbaron> bholley, yes... you get an extra vtable pointer, and you need to be careful with your QueryInterface implementation...
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410. # [02:33] <@dbaron> bholley, though...
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412. # [02:33] <bholley> dbaron: the problem is that all the methods in nsIFoo become uninvokable on nsBar instances
413. # [02:33] <bholley> dbaron: because it's ambiguous
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415. # [02:33] <@dbaron> bholley, you need to redefine them all to forward
416. # [02:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b6ddb284e61 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 953111 - Check length before initializing typedobject instance r=sfink
417. # [02:34] <bholley> ugh
418. # [02:34] <@dbaron> bholley, xpidl even generates nice macros for doing that
419. # [02:34] <bholley> dbaron: oh?
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421. # [02:34] <bholley> dbaron: oh, nice
422. # [02:34] <bholley> dbaron: thanks
423. # [02:35] <@dbaron> bholley, there should be plenty of uses findable in the tree, for examples
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425. # [02:36] <@dbaron> bholley, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=NS_FORWARD_
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427. # [02:36] <bholley> dbaron: yeah, found it - thanks :-)
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429. # [02:37] <@dbaron> see the ones with :: especially
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443. # [02:44] <@khuey> dmajor: ping?
444. # [02:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb455b3e4584 - Terrence Cole - Bug 952646 - Fix a potential exact rooting hazard in rollbackProperties; r=sfink
445. # [02:45] <dmajor> khuey: pong
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447. # [02:46] <@khuey> dmajor: are you using replay.mv.mozilla.com?
448. # [02:46] <@ehsan> bholley: yes
449. # [02:46] <dmajor> khuey: nope, all done
450. # [02:46] <bholley> ehsan: nm, dbaron helped me out
451. # [02:46] <@khuey> it appears to be in the middle of debugging some sort of jit thing
452. # [02:46] <@khuey> dmajor: ok, cool
453. # [02:46] * @khuey kills what's running
454. # [02:46] <@ehsan> k
455. # [02:46] <dmajor> khuey: after all the time I put into that bug, it turned out to be a dupe :P
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457. # [02:47] <@khuey> haha
458. # [02:47] <@khuey> that sucks
459. # [02:48] <dmajor> at least it's fixed
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466. # [02:51] <@smaug> khuey: is replay for Windows only?
467. # [02:51] <@smaug> or does it support Linux too?
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471. # [02:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4387baaec25f - Edwin Flores - Bug 953394 - Android imports needed for bug 953394 r=doublec
472. # [02:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/112db9c9f460 - Edwin Flores - Bug 953394 - Build changes for OMX support on Android KitKat r=khuey
473. # [02:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2bec15ab99f1 - Edwin Flores - Bug 953394 - Force OMXCodec to output a sane colour format on Android 4.4 and above r=doublec
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475. # [02:53] <@khuey> smaug: windows only
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484. # [02:57] <@njn> glandium: any ideas w.r.t. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=947072#c9 ?
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486. # [02:57] <@njn> glandium: my anonymous mmap tagging causes crashes on (some) Android devices when it's used for JIT code
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488. # [02:58] <glandium> njn: stacktrace?
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493. # [03:00] <@njn> glandium: ok, sec
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495. # [03:00] <@njn> glandium: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32685960&tree=Try&full=1#error0
496. # [03:01] <@njn> glandium: the stack trace basically just points at JIT code, which is why I tried disabling the tagging for JIT code
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498. # [03:01] <@njn> glandium: I don't understand the moz-tagged-mmap-file-* entries in the stack trace, though
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500. # [03:01] <@njn> glandium: the crash is really early in the test run, which makes sense that it's the first time JIT code runs
501. # [03:02] <@njn> glandium: actually, frame 25 points to the JIT; every frame above that is suspect
502. # [03:02] <@njn> er, s/25/24/
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506. # [03:03] <glandium> njn: the only really interesting data is the crash address
507. # [03:04] <glandium> njn: and it doesn't correspond to any "loaded modules"
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510. # [03:05] <@njn> glandium: does that imply anything interesting?
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512. # [03:05] <glandium> njn: one that that *is* interesting is how it relates to values in other registers
513. # [03:06] <glandium> njn: the crash address is 0x6e2fefa0, there are many registers containing 0x5e2fexxx
514. # [03:06] <glandium> exactly 0x10000000 apart
515. # [03:06] <@njn> glandium: true
516. # [03:06] <@njn> it's annoying this doesn't happen to me locally
517. # [03:07] <glandium> the raw contents of /proc/self/maps would be useful
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519. # [03:07] <glandium> i wish minidump_dump would display it
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521. # [03:08] * @njn is tempted to disable tagging for JIT code -- it's a small fraction of anonymous memory -- and declare victory
522. # [03:08] <glandium> njn: that's tempting, but maybe that's also unearthing an existing bug
523. # [03:08] <@njn> glandium: that's an imaginative hypothesis
524. # [03:09] <@njn> glandium: this isn't a subtle crash... in the sense that it happens immediately
525. # [03:09] <glandium> njn: i don't have a rational explanation for a crash that the tagging would trigger
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527. # [03:09] <glandium> i wouldn't expect any
528. # [03:10] <glandium> but then, i don't know what the jit does with the mapping
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532. # [03:10] <@njn> glandium: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32685780&tree=Try and https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32685780&tree=Try#error0 are other logs
533. # [03:11] <@njn> glandium: 0xffffffff is the crash location for one
534. # [03:11] <glandium> for both
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537. # [03:12] <glandium> njn: smells cache problems
538. # [03:12] <@njn> glandium: not both
539. # [03:12] <@njn> 0x6e2fefa0
540. # [03:12] <@njn> 0xffffffff
541. # [03:12] <@njn> 0xe52d3004
542. # [03:12] <@njn> glandium: which cache?
543. # [03:13] <glandium> njn: instruction and data cache
544. # [03:13] <glandium> njn: ah you pasted twice the same log for the two others
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546. # [03:14] <@njn> glandium: sorry
547. # [03:14] <KWierso> fabrice: ping?
548. # [03:14] <@njn> glandium: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=e969145d15e7 is thefull run
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551. # [03:14] <@njn> glandium: they all crash when trampolining into JIT code
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554. # [03:15] <glandium> njn: it smells a lot like cache problems
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556. # [03:16] <@njn> glandium: you mean problems with the hardware itself?
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559. # [03:18] <glandium> njn: yes and no, that's a feature on arm, and programs writing data to be executed need to be careful about it.
560. # [03:18] <fabrice> KWierso: pong
561. # [03:18] <@njn> glandium: oh, right
562. # [03:18] <@njn> glandium: icache flushing isn't automatic, right?
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564. # [03:19] <KWierso> fabrice: just backed out bug 940254 on b2g-inbound for breaking xpcshell tests like this https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32732490&tree=B2g-Inbound
565. # [03:19] <glandium> njn: that being said, another thing to look at is how exactly the jit is doing its stuff... i'd expect it to map a writable region and then to change its permissions to be readonly
566. # [03:19] <fabrice> KWierso: ok, will fix tomorrow
567. # [03:19] <glandium> njn: icache and dcache are decorrelated on arm
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569. # [03:19] <KWierso> fabrice: thanks :)
570. # [03:19] <glandium> i see no call to cacheflush in js/src, but there are things about cache flushing, but i have no idea what it does and how
571. # [03:20] <@njn> mjrosenb should know
572. # [03:20] <@njn> mjrosenb: ping?
573. # [03:20] <mjrosenb> glandium: what's up?
574. # [03:20] <@njn> mjrosenb: this crash https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32685960&tree=Try&full=1#error0
575. # [03:20] <glandium> mjrosenb: how does ion flush icache for the jit?
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581. # [03:23] <mjrosenb> glandium: there is a structure AutoFlushCache, which tracks all memory locations that have been modified and need to be flushed.
582. # [03:23] <@njn> mjrosenb: let's take a step back
583. # [03:23] <mjrosenb> glandium: then before we return to jitted code, those addresses are flushed.
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585. # [03:23] <@njn> this relates to bug 947072
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587. # [03:23] <@njn> in that bug, I've changed all anonymous mmaps to file-backed mmaps
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589. # [03:24] <@njn> this allows more fine-grained memory reporting of anonymous mmaps
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591. # [03:24] <@njn> e.g. we can distinguish JIT code, jemalloc heap, GC heap, etc
592. # [03:24] <mjrosenb> njn: roger.
593. # [03:24] <@njn> it works great, except we're crashing in JIT code on ARM, on try
594. # [03:24] <@njn> (but not locally on my Samsung device)
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596. # [03:24] <@njn> if I disable just for JIT code, try is ok
597. # [03:24] <@njn> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32685960&tree=Try&full=1#error0 is an example crash
598. # [03:25] <@njn> it appears to crash as soon as we try to enter compiled code, via the entry trampoline
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601. # [03:25] <@njn> I thought it might be some kind of permissions problem, but glandium thinks it might be a icache/dcache correlation problem
602. # [03:25] <mjrosenb> njn: I will be *so* sad if you're running into a kernel edge case.
603. # [03:25] <@njn> mjrosenb: let's rule out more obvious things first!
604. # [03:26] <glandium> njn: actually, now that i look at what has been running those tests, it's unlikely to be icache/dcache.
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606. # [03:26] <@njn> glandium: why's that?
607. # [03:26] <glandium> njn: if it had been failing on tegras only, it would be likely, but failing on pandas too adds a whole stack of doubt
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610. # [03:27] <mjrosenb> njn: I say that because the icache flushing code goes through some hoops to work around the kernel being silly.
611. # [03:27] <mjrosenb> njn: do you ever map two consecutive pages to different files?
612. # [03:27] <@njn> mjrosenb: it's possible
613. # [03:27] <mjrosenb> njn: that can trigger the kernel edge case I was talking about.
614. # [03:27] <glandium> mjrosenb: the kernel being silly?
615. # [03:28] <@njn> mjrosenb: multiple JIT code allocations are backed by the same file, too
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617. # [03:28] <@njn> mjrosenb: supposedly they get their own copies
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620. # [03:29] <@njn> the obvious question is what's different between an anonymous mapping and a file-backed one
621. # [03:29] <glandium> njn: fwiw, i've never had problems without cacheflushes on panda, while i've had many on tegras
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623. # [03:29] <@njn> glandium: ok
624. # [03:29] <@njn> glandium: on other try runs, this has failed very reliably on all Android builds
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629. # [03:30] <mjrosenb> njn: so the workaround is that if there are two different mappings, and you ask to flush a range of addresses starting on one mapping, and ending in another, only the first mapping is flushed.
630. # [03:30] <mjrosenb> njn: I assume that when malloc allocates memory via mmap, it all gets stored in a single mapping
631. # [03:30] <@njn> mjrosenb: is that the workaround, or the bug?
632. # [03:30] <mjrosenb> njn: that's the bug.
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634. # [03:31] <mjrosenb> but file-backed maps almost certainly need to be separate
635. # [03:31] <@njn> mjrosenb: I'm not sure what you mean by "mapping" above
636. # [03:31] <@bz> !seen RuanVM
637. # [03:31] <@killer> I don't know who RuanVM is.
638. # [03:31] <firebot> I've never seen a 'RuanVM', sorry.
639. # [03:31] <@bz> !seen RyanVM
640. # [03:31] <@killer> I don't know who RyanVM is.
641. # [03:31] <firebot> ryanvm was last seen 2 hours, 41 minutes and 58 seconds ago, changing nick to RyanVM|afk.
642. # [03:31] <mjrosenb> so the edgecase-detection logic may be failing.
643. # [03:31] <@njn> mjrosenb: so distinct calls to mmap() (using file-backing) might unluckily end up next to each other, yes
644. # [03:32] <mjrosenb> njn: whereas, I assume that anonymously backed condiguous mmaps get merged.
645. # [03:32] <mjrosenb> njn: ok, there should be a very simple way of testing this.
646. # [03:32] <glandium> mjrosenb: why are you flushing cache accross mappings in the first place?
647. # [03:32] <@njn> mjrosenb: this bug seems like it would have more intermittent crashes
648. # [03:32] <@njn> s/have/cause/
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650. # [03:33] <jcranmer> !seen killer
651. # [03:33] <firebot> killer was last seen 2 minutes and 10 seconds ago, saying 'I don't know who RyanVM is.' in #developers.
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653. # [03:33] <jcranmer> hmm
654. # [03:34] <@njn> !seen firebot
655. # [03:34] <@killer> firebot is on the channel right now!
656. # [03:34] <firebot> I'm right here, duh!
657. # [03:34] <firebot> killer: Sorry, I've no idea what 'is on the channel right now' might be.
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659. # [03:34] <jcranmer> I take it killer only responds to ops?
660. # [03:34] <@njn> mjrosenb: what's the simple way to test this?
661. # [03:34] <ckitching> What *is* killer?
662. # [03:34] <mjrosenb> glandium: I'm not. I'm explicitly trying to avoid it.
663. # [03:35] <jcranmer> ckitching: a bot that kicks people for spamming
664. # [03:35] <ckitching> Handy!
665. # [03:35] <mjrosenb> njn: https://gist.github.com/8328547 apply that. if the crashes go away, then it is a mapping-related cache issue.
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668. # [03:35] <glandium> mjrosenb: wrong paste
669. # [03:37] <mjrosenb> well, it'll certainly fail to apply.
670. # [03:37] <mjrosenb> https://gist.github.com/8328564
671. # [03:37] <@bz> 13:26:44 INFO - INFO TEST-END | chrome://mochitests/content/browser/browser/base/content/test/general/browser_bug676619.js | finished in 13730ms
672. # [03:37] <mjrosenb> I probablyshould have checked that before i pasted it, but it is correct.
673. # [03:37] <@bz> What's our default test timeout for an individual mochitest?
674. # [03:37] <mjrosenb> bz: 15s? (stab in the dark)
675. # [03:37] <@bz> hrm
676. # [03:38] <ckitching> I always thought it was 3600.. :P
677. # [03:38] <ckitching> (I've seen some tests timeout after 3600s. Unsure if they were actually mochitests. Might've been robocop or such)
678. # [03:38] <@bz> 12:24:03 INFO - INFO TEST-END | chrome://mochitests/content/browser/browser/base/content/test/general/browser_bug676619.js | finished in 30232ms
679. # [03:38] <@njn> mjrosenb: ok, I just pushed to try. Thanks for the suggestion!
680. # [03:38] <@bz> That was a test timeout
681. # [03:38] <@bz> So presumably between 13 and 30s... ;)
682. # [03:39] <ckitching> Looks like it might be 30s, then. :P
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688. # [03:44] <@njn> mjrosenb: let's assume optimistically that your patch fixes my problem. What's the next step?
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693. # [03:48] <mjrosenb> njn: 1) be more persistent at getting this fixed upstream; 2) get better logic for determining when an address range spans multiple mappings.
694. # [03:49] <@njn> mjrosenb: so landing your patch isn't an option?
695. # [03:49] <mjrosenb> njn: it can be a pretty big perf hit
696. # [03:49] <@njn> mjrosenb: ok
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698. # [03:49] <mjrosenb> njn: every modification of the instruction stream after the initial executable copy will induce a system call.
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764. # [04:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99afe134bc7a - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 953108 - Initialized TypedObject module when initializing SIMD module r=till
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769. # [04:49] <@njn> glandium: what's the cache size for ccache on the test machines?
770. # [04:49] <glandium> njn: what test machines
771. # [04:49] <@njn> glandium: er, build machines
772. # [04:50] <glandium> njn: 10GB, compressed
773. # [04:50] <glandium> there are around 200k files in ccache on try builders
774. # [04:51] <@njn> glandium: so when you do |ccache -s|, the "mac cache size" is 10GB?
775. # [04:51] <@njn> s/mac/max/
776. # [04:51] <glandium> njn: yes
777. # [04:52] <glandium> njn: see for yourself in try logs, that's where i got the info
778. # [04:52] <@njn> glandium: I wonder if making it bigger would help. I use 32GB locally
779. # [04:52] <@njn> the used space never goes above ~29
780. # [04:52] <@njn> mjrosenb: my try run seems to be working -- looks like you were right about the flushing bug being the problem!
781. # [04:53] <@njn> mjrosenb: I guess I'll just disable the mmap tagging for JIT code, and add a comment. Is there an open bug about this issue somewhere?
782. # [04:54] <glandium> njn: i don't know how much space there is on the builders for that. I doubt it would make much difference, though
783. # [04:54] <@njn> glandium: well I'm glad it's 10GB and not 1 or 2GB
784. # [04:55] <glandium> njn: i've had a 30GB ccache for a long time, and low hit rates depending on my build patterns
785. # [04:55] <glandium> (which just led me to disable ccache entirely, because it's slower to build with ccache with low hit rates than building without ccache)
786. # [04:56] <mjrosenb> njn: a linux kernel bug?
787. # [04:56] <@njn> mjrosenb: anything I can refer to in a comment
788. # [04:56] <mjrosenb> njn: maybe.
789. # [04:57] <glandium> arguably, the problem is that the flush code in ion is trying to be too smart
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791. # [04:58] <mjrosenb> njn: there was this: http://archive.arm.linux.org.uk/lurker/message/20120810.055229.ef88ad01.en.html
792. # [05:02] <mjrosenb> njn: granted, there may be a bug in the AutoFlushCache code, that my fix disables, but given the changes that you've made, and the nature of the reason for the awkward hueristic, my guess would be that it is this bug again.
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803. # [05:14] <mbrubeck> KWierso: Linux debug seems kind of unhappy on your merge to fx-team
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808. # [05:16] <KWierso> mbrubeck: same on inbound :S
809. # [05:16] <mbrubeck> My push on top of the bustage is windows-only, so I don't feel too bad. :P
810. # [05:16] <mbrubeck> It's my way of saving resources. ;)
811. # [05:17] <KWierso> mbrubeck: weird that inbound is fine on 32-bit linux debug, but fxteam is broken on both :|
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813. # [05:17] <@njn> glandium: in my tagged mmap stuff, Waldo suggested making MozTaggedAnonymousMmap() not have the same interface as mmap(), since some of the arguments aren't relevant (e.g. |offset| is always zero)
814. # [05:18] <@njn> glandium: I originally kept the mmap interface so that the jemalloc changes would be as small as possible
815. # [05:18] <@njn> glandium: do you have a preference?
816. # [05:18] <glandium> njn, mjrosenb: i'd say a bug should be filed for AutoFlushCache to be fixed or improved, and referenced in the patch for 947072 if you end up not doing the jit
817. # [05:18] <glandium> njn: as long as that can easily be macroed for jemalloc3, i don't care much
818. # [05:20] <@njn> glandium: not sure about the easy macroing... I only replace 1 of the 6 mmap() calls in jemalloc2...
819. # [05:20] <KWierso> mbrubeck: b2g-inbound, too :|
820. # [05:21] <glandium> njn: btw, now that i look at it... have you looked at the mmap stuff in jemalloc?
821. # [05:21] <@njn> glandium: looking now
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823. # [05:21] <mjrosenb> njn: do you keep track of the maps anywhere?
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825. # [05:21] <@njn> glandium: I think I can tweak how MozTaggedAnonymousMmap works -- if it's anonymous, do the tagging, otherwise pass through to mmap
826. # [05:21] <mjrosenb> njn: if you do, we can use that to figure out exactly what needs to be flushed.
827. # [05:22] <mbrubeck> KWierso: From the logs, looks like a problem dowloading the build from FTP to the test slave
828. # [05:22] <@njn> mjrosenb: not really
829. # [05:22] <mbrubeck> It timed out after "Downloading http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-linux64-debug/1389233742/firefox-29.0a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tests.zip to /builds/slave/test/build/firefox-29.0a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tests.zip"
830. # [05:22] <KWierso> mbrubeck: I'm going to retrigger my way to victory unless someone has a better idea
831. # [05:23] <KWierso> mbrubeck: currently blaming ec2
832. # [05:23] <mbrubeck> sounds like a plan
833. # [05:23] <glandium> mjrosenb: what is the flusher for, btw? why not just flush like in your patch?
834. # [05:23] <mjrosenb> KWierso: is this the tbpl equivalent of leaning on f5 when a site is experiencing 'unually heavy traffic'?
835. # [05:23] <mjrosenb> glandium: perf improvement.
836. # [05:24] <KWierso> mjrosenb: pretty much
837. # [05:24] <mjrosenb> glandium: each flush requires a system call, and if we do that a lot, it starts to add up
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839. # [05:25] <mjrosenb> glandium: this *tries* to bunch them into a single call, but linux apparently isn't that fond if the idea.
840. # [05:26] <mjrosenb> glandium: where this == the flusher.
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863. # [05:51] <@njn> glandium: memory/jemalloc/src/ features a single call to mmap(), which would map nicely to a simpler API that doesn't take an offset, etc
864. # [05:52] <@njn> glandium: but mozjemalloc has multiple calls to mmap(), some of which use flags that don't work with MozTaggedAnonymousMmap()
865. # [05:52] <@njn> glandium: so the most robust solution, I think is for MozTaggedAnonymousMmap() to have the same interface as mmap(), and to fall back to mmap() if it's not a vanilla anonymous mapping
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867. # [05:54] <glandium> njn: seems reasonable. note you'll have to port the syscall horror show from mozjemalloc
868. # [05:54] <@njn> glandium: I'm looking at that and wondering about it
869. # [05:54] <@njn> glandium: jemalloc3 doesn't have any of that
870. # [05:54] <glandium> njn: jemalloc3 has a different initialization
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872. # [05:55] <@njn> glandium: calling "mmap(...)" from MFBT means that the "use the syscall where possible" code from jemalloc2 is ineffective
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874. # [05:55] <@njn> glandium: so you think I should copy the _mmap stuff from jemalloc2 into MFBT, and call _mmap() rather than mmap()?
875. # [05:55] <glandium> njn: yes
876. # [05:55] <@njn> glandium: fun
877. # [05:56] <glandium> njn: although.... are you going to enable that everywhere or just b2g?
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879. # [05:57] <@njn> glandium: current plan is all Linux platforms
880. # [05:57] <@njn> the SystemMemoryReporter is enabled by default on B2G, disabled by default on other Linux platforms but can be turned on
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883. # [06:00] <@njn> glandium: I very much like being able to test SystemMemoryReporter on desktop Linux
884. # [06:00] <glandium> njn: i wonder, though, if any of those wrappers that created problems (libsafe, libtrash, aoss) are still used
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889. # [06:01] <glandium> mmmmm padsp too
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896. # [06:04] <@njn> glandium: do we care about s390?
897. # [06:04] <glandium> njn: i do
898. # [06:04] <@njn> ok
899. # [06:05] <glandium> njn: as in, if you don't add it, i'll have to readd it
900. # [06:05] <mjrosenb> wait, really?
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902. # [06:06] <@njn> glandium: do we care about alpha?
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907. # [06:07] <glandium> njn: i personally don't, but i'm sure i'll hear about it
908. # [06:07] <glandium> s/i'll/i'd/
909. # [06:07] <@njn> glandium: alright, I'll leave that in too
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911. # [06:08] <mjrosenb> ugh. why do we use absolute paths post-configure?
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913. # [06:08] <glandium> mjrosenb: for what?
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916. # [06:09] <mjrosenb> glandium: for the paths to source files, evidently?
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918. # [06:09] <mjrosenb> oh, nevermind
919. # [06:09] <mjrosenb> just for virtualend.
920. # [06:10] <mjrosenb> *vertualenv
921. # [06:10] <mjrosenb> *virtualenv
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923. # [06:10] <mjrosenb> e.g.
924. # [06:10] <mjrosenb> /home/mjrosenb/src/central/central/js/objs/armhf-dbg/_virtualenv/bin/python /home/mjrosenb/src/central/central-957504/js/src/config/expandlibs_exec.py --depend .deps/host_jsoplengen.pp --target host_jsoplengen -- c++ -o host_jsoplengen -std=gnu++0x -MD -MP -MF .deps/host_jsoplengen.pp -I/home/mjrosenb/src/central/central-957504/js/src -I. -I/home/mjrosenb/src/central/central-957504/js/src/../../mfbt/double-conversion -I/home/mjrosenb
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926. # [06:10] <mjrosenb> host_jskwgen
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934. # [06:13] <tbsaunde> in trees that are probably a couple weeks old I've seen paths to cpp files be absolute
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942. # [06:22] <@njn> glandium: do we define MALLOC_DECOMMIT?
943. # [06:22] <@njn> glandium: apparently not, hmm
944. # [06:23] <glandium> njn: we do on windows
945. # [06:23] <@njn> glandium: so currently I have MozTaggedAnonymousMmap() fall back to vanilla mmap() if |flags| is anything other than PRIVATE|ANON
946. # [06:23] <@njn> glandium: I wonder if I should allow FIXED as well
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948. # [06:24] <@njn> glandium: and possibly others
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952. # [06:25] <glandium> njn: yeah, MAP_FIXED might be necessary
953. # [06:25] <@njn> glandium: it doesn't seem to be necessary
954. # [06:25] <@njn> there's one mmap() call on Linux that does all the work for jemalloc, with DECOMMIT undefined
955. # [06:25] <@njn> maybe I'll just leave it as is
956. # [06:25] <glandium> njn: jemalloc3 uses it
957. # [06:26] <glandium> ah no, i misremembered
958. # [06:27] <@njn> glandium: it uses MREMAP_FIXED
959. # [06:27] <@njn> glandium: hmm, I haven't even thought about mremap()...
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962. # [06:28] <glandium> njn: afaik only jemalloc3 uses it, and it's disabled
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969. # [06:32] <@bz> What's the mach command to update tests but nothing else?
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973. # [06:32] <glandium> bz: mach help will tell you if there's one
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975. # [06:33] <@bz> mmm
976. # [06:33] <@bz> doesn't seem to be
977. # [06:33] <glandium> bz: all i know is that it does that when you run a command to run them
978. # [06:33] <@bz> hrm
979. # [06:33] * @bz will poke
980. # [06:33] <@bz> oh, huh
981. # [06:33] * @bz tries
982. # [06:33] <@bz> nice. ;)
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1002. # [06:51] <mbrubeck> I think these bc failures on fx-team are from adw's patch
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1004. # [06:53] <mbrubeck> "link is null" seems to be coming from code added by that changeset
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1015. # [07:03] <mbrubeck> backing it out
1016. # [07:04] <mbrubeck> oops, too slow
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1023. # [07:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d95652cb6e24 - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 957429 - Method parameters that are callbacks obey [TreatNonCallableAsNull] semantics. r=bz
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1032. # [07:13] <mjrosenb> oh man, are we having backout races now?
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1035. # [07:14] <mbrubeck> I guess we should work on a "mach push-backout" command
1036. # [07:14] <mbrubeck> and a Firefox extension so you can run it directly from the TBPL page
1037. # [07:15] <mjrosenb> ooh, and we should integrate it with the NES rifle
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1039. # [07:16] <mjrosenb> so you point your gun at the changeset you want to go away, pull the trigger, and BOOM, BACKOUT!
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1041. # [07:18] <mbrubeck> mjrosenb++
1042. # [07:18] <mbrubeck> mjrosenb: Or azakai's DOOM-in-the-browser demo?
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1080. # [07:48] <bholley> who wants to answer a tricky inheritance question for me?
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1089. # [07:52] <bholley> dbaron: you still around?
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1093. # [07:52] <bholley> or khuey
1094. # [07:52] <gumble> can someone please confirm this bug ?
1095. # [07:52] <gumble> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=956770
1096. # [07:52] <gumble> thanks
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1120. # [08:06] <WeirdAl> any build engineers around, someone familiar with omnijar packaging?
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1122. # [08:07] <WeirdAl> got a build bustage calling make sdk that I can't figure out, building XULRunner
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1128. # [08:10] <WeirdAl> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3972047
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1137. # [08:13] <WeirdAl> khuey: ping ^^
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1168. # [08:33] <mjrosenb> oops, I just clicked on the wrong button, and lost *all* my tabs :-(
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1178. # [08:44] <KWierso> mjrosenb: shouldn't they be listed in recently closed tabs?
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1181. # [08:46] <mjrosenb> KWierso: only one tab listed.
1182. # [08:46] * mjrosenb wonders if a recent update nuked it
1183. # [08:46] <gcp> recently closed windows?
1184. # [08:47] <mjrosenb> then again, last time I was running firefox, my disk stopped accepting writes.
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1191. # [08:53] <mwu> session restore's only weakness
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1430. # [12:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gabor: ping
1431. # [12:39] <gabor> Tomcat: pong
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1433. # [12:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey gabor could be https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32754203&tree=Mozilla-Inbound related to your patch ?
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1438. # [12:45] <gabor> Tomcat: I'm afraid yes... I think I should add my test in xpcshell.ini one line upward
1439. # [12:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gabor: do you want to push a follow up or shall i backout ?
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1441. # [12:46] <gabor> Tomcat: just back it out and I'll do it again, with a double check first
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1443. # [12:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gabor: ok will do thx
1444. # [12:46] <gabor> sorry about it... I've just found the same error in my try push just it seemed like the intermittent failure this test does all the time...
1445. # [12:47] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np :)
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1447. # [12:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00d284a3a05a - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 18eeafedd180 (bug 952192) XPC Shell Bustage on a CLOSED TREE
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1452. # [12:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3c4e2a76f567 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset f552ce04bc36 (bug 809056) for m-bc orange
1453. # [12:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f552ce04bc36 - Drew Willcoxon - Bug 809056 - Reduce thumbnailing impact by capturing and storing only top sites. r=markh
1454. # [12:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/124d80d7556d - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge fx-team to mozilla-central
1455. # [12:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c068b477d01d - Matt Brubeck - Bug 952297 - Don't force scroll arrows to be visible in tab strip [r=sfoster]
1456. # [12:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/574faba0c776 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 945438 - Set event.cancelable for mousedown correctly on Metro [r=jimm]
1457. # [12:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d3ab07b86509 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 957490 - Fix initialization of MouseEvent.buttons on Metro [r=jimm]
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1506. # [13:45] <@smaug> is there some addon which creates temporary google accounts?
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1542. # [14:17] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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1563. # [14:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/434667e5fdee - Robert Longson - Bug 812795 (Part 2) - Disable subpixel AA on SVG text when requested to. r=jwatt
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1571. # [14:45] <@smaug> ochameau: hopefully my r- makes sense
1572. # [14:45] <@smaug> to you
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1576. # [14:46] <@smaug> sendMouseEvent is just used in so many ways that I'd prefer to not change how it behaves by default
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1592. # [15:01] <ochameau> smaug: yes, I know that it is used in many place, I just got the feeling that if inputSource was important, the caller would have specified it. I'm just stuck with this bug... I don't have any proper way to filter the mouse events
1593. # [15:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d405c64a7bf - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 957652 - Replace the Attr element getters by something that returns an Element; r=bzbarsky
1594. # [15:04] <@smaug> ochameau: right. mouse as a source is just what most callers expect
1595. # [15:04] <@smaug> ochameau: but anyhow, I think using option_args approach should work
1596. # [15:04] <@smaug> and then fix possible callers in b2g
1597. # [15:04] <ochameau> smaug: callers aren't b2g specifics, callers are all mochitests, all m-c codebase :o
1598. # [15:05] <@smaug> (by adding the last param, UNKNOWN)
1599. # [15:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92efd61cfca5 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 957652 - Address Ms2ger's comment
1600. # [15:05] <Ms2ger> Ohai
1601. # [15:05] <@smaug> ochameau: yes, and I don't want those to be changed
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1603. # [15:05] <@smaug> only b2g specific stuff should be changed, if possible
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1608. # [15:07] <ochameau> smaug: I do not have any b2g specific SendMouseEvent to modify. One major call site is EventUtils.js which currently pass unknown but because of current domwindowutils behavior ends up have mouse source
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1619. # [15:11] <ochameau> smaug: I have one other potential way of filtering event. What do you think about adding something to nsIDOMEvent idl to expose event->mFlags.mIsSynthesizedForTests ?
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1633. # [15:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a34631f0c41 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 957899 - WakeLock should QI nsISupports, r=bz
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1645. # [15:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2189ba4114f5 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 957858: Drop unnecessary 'switch' in CreateTextureHostBasic, to fix MSVC C4065 warning. r=nical
1646. # [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b150c4d305a - Daniel Holbert - Bug 957499: Fix SetCompositor() signature in subclasses of NewTextureSource, to actually override the parent's impl (and to fix -Woverloaded-virtual build warnings).
1647. # [15:25] <firebot> r=nical
1648. # [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28531e5859c9 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 957904: Fix signed/unsigned comparison build warnings in CompositorD3D11.cpp. r=nrc
1649. # [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc2a2e09f121 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 957884: Add return statement to default case in SurfaceFormatToDXGIFormat(), to address build warning. r=nical
1650. # [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e97e5004b17a - Daniel Holbert - Bug 957783: Drop unused variable 'compositable' from CompositableParentManager::ReceiveCompositableUpdate. r=nical
1651. # [15:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fdc991012039 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 957784: Mark gfx/layers as FAIL_ON_WARNINGS. r=nical
1652. # [15:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/198d23cf8b64 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 957859: Add "f" suffix to some numeric literals in Compositor.cpp and ContainerLayerComposite.cpp, to fix MSVC C4305 warnings. r=nical
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1658. # [15:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/595fd5dfbb5a - Gabor Krizsanits - Bug 952192 - getObjectPrincipal should be script callable. r=bholley
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1669. # [15:31] <smaugN900> ochameau: we could add some [ChromeOnly] flag to mouse events if that helps
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1674. # [15:32] <smaugN900> or [Pref="foobar"]
1675. # [15:32] <smaugN900> but I don't quite understand the use case here
1676. # [15:32] <smaugN900> back later
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1686. # [15:42] <past> I want to get a debug build for windows from tbpl, but I only see WinXP has B links. Is that because Win 7/8 use the same binaries?
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1699. # [15:48] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> past: yeah think so
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1701. # [15:48] <past> thanks Tomcat|sheriffduty
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1703. # [15:50] <Waldo> gabor: saw that add-handles-to-xpidl thing, is there really a good reason to fix nits in the middle of a larger, somewhat fragile refactoring? seems best to leave it to when not-so-large/wide-ranging changes are being made, to me
1704. # [15:50] <Gijs> past: yes. In fact, the build machines aren't even winXP, IIRC they're win server 2003 or something
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1706. # [15:51] <gabor> Waldo: how about a follow-up?
1707. # [15:51] <past> Gijs: oh, good to know
1708. # [15:51] <gabor> Waldo: evilpie: or you can ask bholley
1709. # [15:51] <gabor> I'm just trying to follow the rules he makes on xpconnect really
1710. # [15:52] <Waldo> gabor: followup seems fine, just seems not quite good taste to slow down a larger change over somewhat-tangential concerns
1711. # [15:52] <gabor> Waldo: agree I know that patch is not trivial to land and very important
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1757. # [16:17] <RyanVM> dholbert: If you could please teach the other tests how to fix themselves, that would be greeeeat
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1761. # [16:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh
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1763. # [16:20] * froydnj doesn't really want self-aware tests
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1766. # [16:21] <Ms2ger> froydnj, yeah, with how we've been treating them...
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1770. # [16:22] <gerard-majax__> Ms2ger, ping
1771. # [16:22] <Ms2ger> Uh-oh
1772. # [16:22] <gerard-majax__> Ms2ger, I have a question regarding interfaces
1773. # [16:22] <gerard-majax__> Ms2ger, http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/9409405e0739/dom/interfaces/notification/nsIDOMDesktopNotification.idl
1774. # [16:22] <Ms2ger> I'll be with you in just a moment
1775. # [16:22] <gerard-majax__> Ms2ger, http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/124d80d7556d/dom/webidl/AppNotificationServiceOptions.webidl
1776. # [16:22] <gerard-majax__> ok
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1780. # [16:24] <gerard-majax__> Ms2ger, I need to enhance AppNotificationServiceOptions, and I was wondering whether I have to change the UUID of nsIDOMDesktopNotification
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1785. # [16:26] <dholbert> RyanVM, I'lll see what I can do
1786. # [16:26] <RyanVM> dholbert: yeah....
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1789. # [16:27] <Ms2ger> gerard-majax__, okay, here now
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1792. # [16:27] <Ms2ger> gerard-majax__, of nsIAppNotificationService, you mean? No real need
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1796. # [16:28] <gerard-majax__> Ms2ger, yes, this one
1797. # [16:28] <gerard-majax__> Ms2ger, thanks :)
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1885. # [17:10] <vingtetun> smaug: hey, do you need a small testcase for bug 942246 ?
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1891. # [17:13] <tetsuharu> today's nightly build on mac, it lost window control now. Have we already filed this issue?
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1907. # [17:19] <Standard8> tetsuharu: dunno, but I've just seen that as well
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1911. # [17:21] <Standard8> tetsuharu: filing
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1913. # [17:21] <tetsuharu> Standard8: thank you!
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1919. # [17:23] <Standard8> tetsuharu: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=958092
1920. # [17:23] * Standard8 wonders who the sheriff is
1921. # [17:23] <Gijs> tetsuharu: Standard8: that's known, let me find the dupe (has a patch already)
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1924. # [17:23] <Standard8> bah
1925. # [17:24] <Standard8> didn't show up in the today's search
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1929. # [17:25] <Gijs> (bug 958025 for those at home)
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1938. # [17:27] <@bsmedberg> myk: ping
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1942. # [17:28] <@bz> mmm, I was wondering why my local builds had no buttons
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1945. # [17:29] <myk> bsmedberg: pong
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1947. # [17:29] <@ehsan> what's the new way of marking a mochitest as specific to only one platform?
1948. # [17:29] <@bsmedberg> myk: I think webapprt is broken on trunk... it appears to be deadlocked by some sort of crash under JS_SetICUMemoryFunctions
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1950. # [17:29] <@smaug> vingtetun: that would be useful
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1952. # [17:30] <@bsmedberg> myk: have you heard of this, and where would I file it?
1953. # [17:30] <@smaug> (though I didn't take that bug yet, since I don't know when I have for it)
1954. # [17:30] <myk> bsmedberg: hmm, i haven't heard of it, but you can file it in the Firefox::Webapp Runtime component <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Firefox&component=Webapp%20Runtime>
1955. # [17:30] <myk> bsmedberg: please cc: me, :fzzzy, and :marco (castelluccio) on the bug!
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1959. # [17:32] <RattyAway> !seen jessup
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1961. # [17:32] <firebot> I've never seen a 'jessup', sorry.
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1963. # [17:32] <RattyAway> oops
1964. # [17:32] <RattyAway> !seen jesup
1965. # [17:32] <firebot> jesup was last seen 17 hours, 47 minutes and 49 seconds ago, saying 'kentuckyfriedtakahe: that's about the distance at which 720 and 1080 diverge in quality for 32" ;-) (ok, exaggerating )' in #media.
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1968. # [17:33] <@bz> !seen Neil
1969. # [17:33] <@killer> Neil is on the channel right now (as NeilAway) !
1970. # [17:33] <firebot> neil was last seen 7 weeks, 2 days, 4 hours, 43 minutes and 11 seconds ago, changing nick to NeilAway.
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1972. # [17:33] <@bz> NeilAway: ping
1973. # [17:33] <RattyAway> ekr: hi!
1974. # [17:33] <philor> ehsan: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/devtools/webconsole/test/browser.ini#192
1975. # [17:34] <@ehsan> philor: thanks! I assume "mac" is a thing as well?
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1977. # [17:34] <philor> or toolkit == darwin
1978. # [17:34] <philor> with some quotes
1979. # [17:34] <philor> and "cocoa"
1980. # [17:34] <jesup> RattyAway: hi
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1982. # [17:35] <RattyAway> jesup: hi! Bug 957489 seems to have been caused by Bug 906968
1983. # [17:36] <RattyAway> jesup: TL;DR: error: ISO C++ forbids comparison between pointer and integer
1984. # [17:36] <RattyAway> make[4]: *** [buffered_stun_socket_unittest.o] Error 1
1985. # [17:36] <ochameau> is it possible to have, in a idl (not a webidl), a boolean that defaults to true?
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1987. # [17:36] <jesup> sure, likely so (that it's due to that bug)
1988. # [17:37] <RattyAway> jesup: this is in SeaMonkey by the way. I don't know why Firefox doesn't have this problem
1989. # [17:37] <Ms2ger> ochameau, yes, with [optional_args]
1990. # [17:37] <Ms2ger> [optional_argc]*
1991. # [17:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d2f31fdc4d4 - Mike Shal - Bug 875013 - Remove VPATH in gfx/; r=joey
1992. # [17:38] <jesup> RattyAway: different compiler likely. There was another GCC 4.5 bug-with-gtest-ptr/int-compare bug
1993. # [17:38] <ochameau> Ms2ger: hum, ok. Thanks, I'll take a look at that!
1994. # [17:38] <Ms2ger> ochameau, it's a little painful, but it should work :)
1995. # [17:38] <jesup> Search for webrtc gcc 4.5 bugs recently created or closed
1996. # [17:38] <RattyAway> jesup: ah likely. thanks
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1999. # [17:39] <RattyAway> jesup: how was that fixed by the way?
2000. # [17:39] <philor> ehsan: I wouldn't be surprised if b2g desktop on Mac is os == 'mac' and toolkit == 'gonk', but I can't remember where or if there are docs that say so
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2002. # [17:39] <@ehsan> hmm
2003. # [17:39] <jesup> RattyAway: fixed the gtest header I think
2004. # [17:39] <@ehsan> maybe gps knows?
2005. # [17:40] * jesup looks for the bug
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2009. # [17:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4fcc5b6e4f23 - Luke Wagner - Bug 957921 - Fix Recv__delete__ when asm.js cache file not yet opened in parent process runnable (r=janv)
2010. # [17:40] <jesup> bug 938092
2011. # [17:41] <RattyAway> ta!
2012. # [17:41] <NeilAway> killer++
2013. # [17:41] <NeilAway> bz: pong
2014. # [17:41] <Ms2ger> ehsan, or ted, maybe
2015. # [17:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/aa427416dddd - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 957021 - Fix messed-up memory reporter paths. r=khuey, a=bajaj
2016. # [17:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/71f37ad83d22 - Bas Schouten - Bug 943351 - Make sure to clear any existing paths before getting the glyph path off a context. r=BenWa, a=bajaj
2017. # [17:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/542ad447aa50 - Chris Pearce - Bug 945645 - Only init WMF video decoding if we have a video container. r=padenot, a=bajaj
2018. # [17:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/6942a1d09ad5 - Paul Adenot - Bug 956201 - Null check the destination node when muting. r=karlt, a=bajaj
2019. # [17:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3f97da3df622 - Paul Adenot - Bug 936784 - Don't overbuffer in the MSG on AudioContext shutdown and only mute on Shutdown if the AudioContext is not an OfflineAudioContext. r=roc, r=ehsan, a=bajaj
2020. # [17:42] <@ehsan> ted: gps: what's the correct way of making a mochitest only run on mac (desktop -- not b2g desktop builds)?
2021. # [17:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3e7a87ce6a18 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 952235 - Handle device offset when applying pattern transform. r=bas, a=bajaj
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2028. # [17:46] <RyanVM> ehsan: not that it matters too much, but we don't run mochitests on mac b2g desktop builds anyway
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2031. # [17:46] <RyanVM> so skip-if = os != "mac" would work I would think
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2033. # [17:47] <@ehsan> oh cool
2034. # [17:47] <@ehsan> thanks
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2036. # [17:47] <@ehsan> one more question
2037. # [17:47] <RyanVM> if and when we care about mochitests on mac b2g desktop, I'm sure there will be other annotating needed ;) :P
2038. # [17:47] <@bz> Where did http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-animations/ go?
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2040. # [17:47] <@ehsan> which one is preferred? |run-if os == "mac"| or |skip-if os != "mac"|?
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2042. # [17:47] <froydnj> I vote for run-if
2043. # [17:47] <RyanVM> I've never used run-if, but I suppose that's preferred
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2046. # [17:48] <RyanVM> run-if = os == "mac"
2047. # [17:48] <RyanVM> it's more clear anyway
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2050. # [17:48] <RyanVM> bjacob: should we be landing bug 958025 on m-c and spinning new nightlies off it?
2051. # [17:48] <@bz> Likewise http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-animations/ !
2052. # [17:48] <RyanVM> mstange ^
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2055. # [17:50] <bjacob_> RyanVM: good idea, if that's not too much trouble. Note that a second patch is coming up there. You'll want both.
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2058. # [17:50] <bjacob_> RyanVM: Mac only
2059. # [17:50] <RyanVM> bjacob_: it's no trouble (less than the trouble of busted nightlies anyway :P)
2060. # [17:50] <RyanVM> ping me when it's ready to land :)
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2062. # [17:50] <Ms2ger> bz, maintenance
2063. # [17:50] <Ms2ger> bz, http://drafts.csswg.org is up
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2068. # [17:52] <@bz> ms2ger: maintenance? :(
2069. # [17:52] <Ms2ger> Or something
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2072. # [17:52] <Ms2ger> mike5w3c, ^
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2077. # [17:53] <@bsmedberg> myk: ok filed bug 958108 with rather more detail than you probably wanted ;-)
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2079. # [17:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fcf236408019 - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 957950 - Refactor tempRoot scope in WebIDL codegen. r=bz
2080. # [17:54] <mike5w3c> bz: sorry my fault, will fixe it now
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2082. # [17:54] <RyanVM|brb> and FTR, clementine oranges are crack
2083. # [17:55] <@khuey> soooooo goood
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2085. # [17:55] <mike5w3c> bz: ok http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-animations/ etc should be back now
2086. # [17:55] <myk> bsmedberg: thanks, that's exactly the amount of detail i wanted! ;-)
2087. # [17:56] <@bz> mike5w3c: Thanks!
2088. # [17:56] <@bz> mike5w3c: And thanks for bringing the rest of csswg/ back too. ;)
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2091. # [17:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c952d0c14bb1 - Markus Stange - Bug 958025 - Only enable GL_SCISSOR_TEST when we know that we have a useful scissor rect. r=bjacob
2092. # [17:57] <mstange> RyanVM|brb: I landed both patches on inbound, but the second is a bit risky
2093. # [17:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a4ce571996e4 - Markus Stange - Bug 958025 - Disable the scissor test in nsChildView::DrawWindowOverlay so that window controls are visible again. r=bjacob
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2096. # [17:58] <@ehsan> I don't think that it's helpful for anybody to have both run-if and skip-if...
2097. # [17:58] <@ehsan> I'll file a bug to remove one of them
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2104. # [17:58] <mike5w3c> bz: cheers. it may go down again briefly later (moving stuff around so we can serve the web-platform-tests test suite from jgraham's python server)
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2112. # [18:01] <whimboo> Mossop: hi! are you around?
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2115. # [18:01] <Mossop> whimboo: In a meeting right now
2116. # [18:01] <whimboo> k, np
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2123. # [18:02] <whimboo> Unfocused: what about you? are you there?
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2125. # [18:04] <RyanVM|brb> mstange: ok....so no nightly respin?
2126. # [18:04] <KWierso> RyanVM|brb: aurora's not looking happy
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2129. # [18:05] <Gijs> whimboo: it's like 5am for him so I think the odds are slim.
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2131. # [18:05] <mstange> RyanVM|brb: probably not, unless you want to trigger an earlier nightly on the next inbound -> m-c merge
2132. # [18:06] <RyanVM> mstange: hrm, that's unfortunate
2133. # [18:06] <mstange> RyanVM: I didn't want to land the two patches on different trees, and I wasn't comfortable landing the second one on m-c
2134. # [18:06] <mstange> RyanVM: do you think it would be good to land the first on on m-c, too, and retrigger?
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2137. # [18:06] <RyanVM> KWierso: dammit, that's where it had conflicts
2138. # [18:07] <RyanVM> mstange: if it's safe and fixes the problem, yes
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2140. # [18:07] <mstange> RyanVM: ok, then I'll land there. I think it's safe.
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2142. # [18:07] <NeilAway> ehsan: browser bindings get turned off in contenteditable documents; editor bindings take over
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2145. # [18:08] <RyanVM> kats: I'm going to uplift bug 951463 to Aurora
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2147. # [18:08] <RyanVM> kats: needed to fix the bustage from bug 907179
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2150. # [18:09] <mstange> RyanVM: pushed
2151. # [18:09] <RyanVM> mstange: thanks
2152. # [18:09] <kats> RyanVM: yeah, sorry i missed that dependency
2153. # [18:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/effa95701c83 - Markus Stange - Bug 958025 - Disable the scissor test in nsChildView::DrawWindowOverlay so that window controls are visible again. r=bjacob
2154. # [18:09] <kats> RyanVM: thanks
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2175. # [18:17] <NeilAway> smaug: for that scrolling test, I really want some code to run between DOMContentLoaded and onload, do you know an easy way to achieve that?
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2199. # [18:26] <@smaug> NeilAway: using XHR doesn't work?
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2203. # [18:27] <NeilAway> smaug: no, the document loads before the XHR, unless I load XML from a file
2204. # [18:27] <@smaug> NeilAway: like, in DOMContentLoaded listener call setTimeout(, 0); and start an XHR
2205. # [18:27] <@smaug> or hmm
2206. # [18:27] <@smaug> actually
2207. # [18:28] <@smaug> use iframe then
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2209. # [18:28] <@bz> xhr doesn't block onload
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2211. # [18:28] <@bz> unless you listen to progress events
2212. # [18:28] <@bz> and then I bet it does
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2214. # [18:28] <@smaug> it used to when progress events were used
2215. # [18:28] <@bz> (but that's a bug)
2216. # [18:28] <@smaug> yup
2217. # [18:29] <NeilAway> bz: what I'm actually trying to do is to emulate the behaviour of MSDN blog comments, which load through XHR somehow but before onload
2218. # [18:29] <NeilAway> (but after DOMContentLoaded)
2219. # [18:29] <@bz> NeilAway: try for now XHR with a progress listener
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2223. # [18:30] <NeilAway> bz: using addEventListener?
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2228. # [18:33] <@smaug> NeilAway: or onprogress
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2230. # [18:35] <josh> ehsan: Is anyone working on the ICU build race?
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2232. # [18:35] <Ms2ger> josh, now you are :)
2233. # [18:36] <@bz> NeilAway: yeah
2234. # [18:36] <josh> Ha, I will only do more harm than good if I touch the build system
2235. # [18:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/89e9d3fa16fc - Tom Schuster - Bug 939294 - Handlify XPConnect. r=gabor
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2237. # [18:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37098c13e59e - Tom Schuster - Bug 939294 - Handlify toolkit/. r=smaug
2238. # [18:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c9ade6c871c - Tom Schuster - Bug 939294 - Handlify content/. r=smaug
2239. # [18:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c97e58ebc5f4 - Tom Schuster - Bug 939294 - Change xpidl header generation code to use JS handles. r=bsmedberg
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2241. # [18:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fed59539afc1 - Tom Schuster - Bug 939294 - Handlify dom/. r=khuey
2242. # [18:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c3aa9973da0 - Tom Schuster - Bug 939294 - Handlify all the rest. r=terrence
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2244. # [18:37] <Ms2ger> That should probably have landed as one changeset
2245. # [18:37] <@bsmedberg-errands> yeah, I expect that's not bisect-safe
2246. # [18:37] <NeilAway> bz/smaug: ok, and can I send the XHR in top-level script?
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2248. # [18:37] <@smaug> what does that mean
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2254. # [18:39] <evilpie> mhm right, let me back it out
2255. # [18:39] <Ms2ger> evilpie, too late for that
2256. # [18:40] <evilpie> oh right, haha
2257. # [18:40] <Ms2ger> Just keep it in mind for next time :)
2258. # [18:41] <evilpie> ok
2259. # [18:41] <evilpie> can't promise
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2261. # [18:41] <NeilAway> smaug: well, let me pastebin what I have based on what I understand you want
2262. # [18:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7a57d633a163 - Jordan Lund - Bug 956384 - Enable addons for talos runs when running metro browser, r=jmaher
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2266. # [18:42] <NeilAway> huh, I get an exception
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2270. # [18:44] <NeilAway> oh, it helps if I don't typo
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2273. # [18:45] <ejpbruel> bz: ping
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2275. # [18:46] <NeilAway> smaug: ok, I'm trying another try push, make sure it works on b2g and Android this time
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2281. # [18:49] <@smaug> NeilAway: sorry that I didn't catch the error
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2298. # [18:56] <williecheong> hey, is there a "Disable cache while devtools are open" feature with Firefox Desktop?
2299. # [18:56] <gps> ehsan: I don't know. maybe ask Ted?
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2303. # [18:57] <KWierso> williecheong: there's a "disable cache" checkbox in the devtools settings pane
2304. # [18:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/759c6a026653 - Terrence Cole - Bug 957891 - Treat PersistentRooted as Rooted for the hazard analysis; r=sfink
2305. # [18:57] <KWierso> williecheong: only affects the current session (but I assume it lasts beyond closing the devtools)
2306. # [18:57] <Ms2ger> gps, heh, that's what I said too
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2311. # [18:58] <gps> I don't claim to know much about how b2g does things
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2321. # [19:01] <williecheong> KWierso: not sure if im at the right views, but I only see check boxes for Console, Inspector, Debugger, Style Editor, Profiler, Network, under the Default Firefox Developer Tools
2322. # [19:01] <KWierso> williecheong: click the little gear icon to the left of "console"
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2325. # [19:01] <KWierso> oh wait
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2327. # [19:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/47193746e11c - David Keeler - bug 950268 - fix leak in nsCertTree::GetDispInfoAtIndex r=cviecco
2328. # [19:01] <williecheong> there is a "Disable Javascript", but that's about it.
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2332. # [19:02] <mt> Anyone know how to resolve an ambiguous conversion on the way to nsISupports? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3975412 decl: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3975453
2333. # [19:02] <KWierso> I see the cache checkbox, but I'm in Nightly
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2335. # [19:02] <KWierso> williecheong: what version of Firefox are you using?
2336. # [19:02] <williecheong> im using the release version
2337. # [19:02] <williecheong> is disabling cache a new feature ?
2338. # [19:02] <KWierso> williecheong: I think the cache checkbox is new to 29/nightly
2339. # [19:02] <KWierso> I don't see it in Aurora
2340. # [19:03] <williecheong> ah alright then.
2341. # [19:03] <williecheong> thanks Kwierso.
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2348. # [19:06] <mccr8> mt: I found somebody else who had the same problem two years ago, but it is just in some random gist. I don't know what the solution was...
2349. # [19:07] <mt> mccr8: I'm perplexed, because this should happen everywhere. I found almost identical code here that compiles happily: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/base/src/nsSimpleURI.cpp#433
2350. # [19:08] * philor|away is now known as philor
2351. # [19:08] <mt> (and when I say identical, I mean, "I copied that code")
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2355. # [19:08] <mccr8> yeah I don't understand what the difference is. :-/
2356. # [19:09] * Ms2ger looks
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2358. # [19:09] <@ehsan> josh: not me
2359. # [19:09] <@ehsan> sorry
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2361. # [19:09] <@bz> mt: you shouldn't be using nsCOMPtr on things that multiply-inherit nsISupports
2362. # [19:09] <@bz> mt: the code you link to in nsSimpleURI uses nsRefPtr
2363. # [19:09] <@bz> mt: not nsCOMPtr
2364. # [19:10] <mccr8> ahhh right.
2365. # [19:10] <Ms2ger> Looks like bz beats my browser startup time
2366. # [19:10] <@bz> You shut your browser down?
2367. # [19:10] <mt> bz: that's it (*facepalm*)
2368. # [19:10] * Gijs is now known as Gijs_away
2369. # [19:10] <@bz> Whyever for?
2370. # [19:10] <Ms2ger> Rebuild it
2371. # [19:10] <mt> Thanks bz, second set of eyes ftw
2372. # [19:10] <@bz> ms2ger: heh
2373. # [19:11] <mt> Ms2ger: you use whatever you are working on as your main browser?
2374. # [19:11] * ctalbert|afk is now known as ctalbert
2375. # [19:11] <@bz> ms2ger: well, if you have 40+ min browser startup times...
2376. # [19:11] <Ms2ger> Heh
2377. # [19:11] <@bz> mt: it's a good idea, no?
2378. # [19:11] <@bz> mt: I mean, I use nightlies as my main browser
2379. # [19:11] <@bz> mt: but a number of people use their own debug builds
2380. # [19:11] <Ms2ger> I've been running my local debug build for the past few days
2381. # [19:11] <@bz> mt: on the premise that they would then catch any issues their patches are introducing
2382. # [19:11] <Ms2ger> And I didn't want to make install it yet :)
2383. # [19:12] <mt> nightlies, yes, but the one that I'm actively working isn't going to run that long before it has to restart
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2385. # [19:12] * @bz would restart all the time if session restore were not broken. :(
2386. # [19:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b0a43ce2da8 - Gregory Szorc - NO BUG - Synchronize mach documentation with upstream repo
2387. # [19:13] <Ms2ger> It is broken?
2388. # [19:13] <mccr8> hmm. my OSX nightly isn't showing the little clicky buttons in the upper left for closing the window, etc...
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2390. # [19:13] <mt> I think perhaps he means "if it were perfect"
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2398. # [19:15] <@bz> Ms2ger: session restore?
2399. # [19:15] <Ms2ger> Yeah
2400. # [19:15] <@bz> ms2ger: yes; it doesn't restore the window positions correctly
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2402. # [19:15] <Ms2ger> Ah
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2404. # [19:15] <Ms2ger> I have one, maximized, window
2405. # [19:15] <@bz> ms2ger: so every time I restart I have to go and reposition all the windwows to where I want them, which is a PITA
2406. # [19:15] <Ms2ger> So that's no issue for me :)
2407. # [19:15] * @bz has 20-some, so....
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2409. # [19:15] <devtushar23> i want to knw about firefox sync..
2410. # [19:16] * sheppy-bbl is now known as sheppy
2411. # [19:16] * Ms2ger makes installs anyway
2412. # [19:16] <dholbert> devtushar23, there's a whole channel for it: #sync
2413. # [19:16] <gaston> bz: wow 20 windows ??? and how many tabs tota ?
2414. # [19:16] <Ms2ger> E_INTOVERFLOW
2415. # [19:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c31c82d98fc - Myk Melez - bug 934756 - implement install/launch/uninstall flows for webapps on Android using synthetic APKs; r=wesj, fabrice
2416. # [19:16] <@bz> gaston: um... 112 tabs across 25 groups in 25 windows
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2418. # [19:17] <@bz> gaston: says about:tabs
2419. # [19:17] <JosiahOne> mccr8: Fix just landed in inbound.
2420. # [19:17] <Ms2ger> 421 tabs across 1 group in 1 window
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2422. # [19:17] <gaston> bz: oh my :)
2423. # [19:17] <JosiahOne> mccr8: Bug 958025.
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2425. # [19:17] <Ms2ger> I guess I'm worse at getting thing finished :)
2426. # [19:17] <mccr8> JosiahOne: thanks!
2427. # [19:17] <gaston> i hardly have more than 10 tabs open :)
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2429. # [19:18] <@bz> Do you kepe your todo list in the form of tabs? ;)
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2432. # [19:18] <@bz> 11 hosts in more than 1 tab:
2433. # [19:18] <@bz> bugzilla.mozilla.org (35 tabs)
2434. # [19:18] <gaston> i used to yeah ..
2435. # [19:19] <mccr8> I keep my todo list in the form of a todo list
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2437. # [19:19] <gaston> but nowadays it's more mutt that handles my todolist in terms of unread mails :)
2438. # [19:19] <Ms2ger> 26 hosts in more than 1 tab:
2439. # [19:19] <Ms2ger> mxr.mozilla.org (166 tabs, 164 unique)
2440. # [19:19] <Ms2ger> bugzilla.mozilla.org (50 tabs)
2441. # [19:19] <@bz> Oh, I have that too
2442. # [19:19] <@bz> the mails
2443. # [19:19] <@bz> that's the other todo list
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2445. # [19:19] <devtushar23> is firefox sync safe enough?? because i hav found so many security thead in it..
2446. # [19:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/04b340ad3191 - Monica Chew - Bug 957704: Switch from apikey to key for browser.safebrowsing.updateURL (r=gcp,dougt)
2447. # [19:20] <Callek> devtushar23: it is, but it will be changing to be more usable in the future
2448. # [19:20] <mccr8> more usable and less safe? ;)
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2450. # [19:20] <Callek> (at a cost of "not *as* secure, but still more secure than competition)
2451. # [19:20] <Ms2ger> Hrm
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2454. # [19:20] <Ms2ger> Why does make install run xpcshell, and why does it leak strings?
2455. # [19:20] <devtushar23> may i knw how??
2456. # [19:21] <gaston> devtushar23: saying you've found 'so many security thead' without explicitely saying what is pure FUD :)
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2458. # [19:21] <Callek> devtushar23: at present all data is encrypted on your local machine, and transmitted to our server, such that only you (and not even US) can decrypt it
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2463. # [19:21] <Callek> and if you lose your "key" to the data you can't get it back
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2465. # [19:21] <Ms2ger> gaston, on the other hand, saying what is irresponsible disclosure :)
2466. # [19:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ff6aa4c9bc9 - Steve Fink - Bug 956434 - Avoid unnecessary zeroing of memory, r=terrence
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2468. # [19:22] <gaston> Ms2ger: or giving secured bug numbers :)
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2470. # [19:23] <devtushar23> so is there any way to recover that key??
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2475. # [19:23] <mt> The best way to ensure that you can continue to get at the stuff is to ensure that the key doesn't get lost in the first place.
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2480. # [19:26] <Ms2ger> bz, but yes, getting to ++DOMWINDOW == 903 takes a bit of time :)
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2484. # [19:27] <devtushar23> but instead of that we r humans....we can lost that key...so how we recover that??
2485. # [19:27] <@bz> Ms2ger: heh
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2496. # [19:31] <devtushar23> anyone there??
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2501. # [19:32] <nalexander> devtushar23: you don't. You can't be secure from party X and give them the key.
2502. # [19:33] <nalexander> devtushar23: the bargain with existing Sync is you are very secure, but you are responsible for the key. Full stop.
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2507. # [19:34] <ejpbruel> bz: ping
2508. # [19:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e588fb2c675 - Rick Eyre - Bug 949642 - Implement VTTCue::LineAlign. r=rillian
2509. # [19:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a26827e1c3f3 - Victor Ciurel - Bug 950352 - Fix warning in mozilla-central/netwerk/srtp/src/crypto/kernel/alloc.c. r=jesup
2510. # [19:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7bcfaf8f42e8 - Alex Vincent - Bug 747597 - Part 2: Remove --install-app from XULRunner. r+sr=bsmedberg
2511. # [19:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5997e5766e98 - Alex Vincent - Bug 747597 - Port XULRunner's --install-app to Python. r=Mossop
2512. # [19:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/713c3832f82b - ojab - Bug 627699 - Fix build bustage with --disable-dbus. r=karlt
2513. # [19:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d2b783a56114 - Jed Parsons - Bug 931465 - mozId.request() options should default to {}. r=MattN
2514. # [19:36] <@bz> ejpbruel:ack
2515. # [19:36] <ejpbruel> bz: hi
2516. # [19:36] <ejpbruel> bz: suppose i have a vector of child workers and i want to expose this vector in a webidl interface. can i expose it as an array?
2517. # [19:37] <ejpbruel> bz: or should i have a childWorkerCount property and a getChildWorker method?
2518. # [19:37] <@bz> You can expose it as an array
2519. # [19:37] <@bz> sequence<Worker> getChildWorkers()
2520. # [19:38] <ejpbruel> bz: can i also make it an attribute?
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2522. # [19:38] <@bz> Attribute is more complicated.
2523. # [19:38] <@bz> But yes, it can now be done.
2524. # [19:38] <ejpbruel> bz: how much more complicated? attribute seems nicer, but not worth a lot of effort
2525. # [19:38] <@bz> But if you do it as an attribute, you have to start worrying about when the caller calls push() on the array
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2528. # [19:39] <@bz> whereas the method version just creates a new array object each time, so doesn't have that problem
2529. # [19:39] <@bz> (for our case, this is an internal API, so you may not do as much worrying as if you were exposing this to the web)
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2531. # [19:39] <ejpbruel> bz: ah, i see. method it is then
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2533. # [19:39] <@bz> Method is simpler. ;)
2534. # [19:39] <devtushar23> the idea behind the use of sync is to carry our history+bookmarks+saved-password etc etc with us and get them anywhere else on other system...but while we leave that system aftr using it firefox do'nt tell us that "your synced information still in this sysytem so you want to delete it or not"...so can we say that its a major bug present in this servise...
2535. # [19:39] <ejpbruel> bz: and simpler is better :)
2536. # [19:39] <ejpbruel> bz: thanks
2537. # [19:39] <@bz> no problem
2538. # [19:40] <@bz> Actually, one other question
2539. # [19:40] <@bz> Is Worker refcounted?
2540. # [19:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65569324e56b - Byron Campen [:bwc] - Bug 957236 - Fix infinite loop on win32 when network interfaces contain a '.'. r=ekr
2541. # [19:40] * @bz really hopes it is...
2542. # [19:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db72ae988131 - Rick Eyre - Bug 950830 - Clean up TextTrackCue style and TODO comments. r=rillian
2543. # [19:40] <ejpbruel> bz: i *think* so? how can i tell
2544. # [19:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/16d98bdc461c - Milan Sreckovic - Bug 956796 - A bad assertion and a typo in the pref name cancelled each other. Fix, and create #defines for the pref names in this file to avoid problems like this.
2545. # [19:40] <firebot> r=BenWa
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2548. # [19:41] <kats> daleharvey: i have some spare cycles and can take a look at bug 957188 if you haven't started on it yet
2549. # [19:41] <@bz> ejpbruel: it actually doesn't matter, now that I think about it, since we support sequences of JSObject* too
2550. # [19:41] <@bz> ejpbruel: just add the method, and then your signature will make it clear what to do. ;)
2551. # [19:42] <ejpbruel> bz: yeah, ill figure it out from here. thanks again
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2553. # [19:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/262188b2629e - Gregory Szorc - Bug 957856 - Synchronize mach with upstream repository; r=ahal
2554. # [19:42] <mstange> mccr8: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=958025
2555. # [19:42] <mccr8> mstange: thanks, somebody else already linked that for me. :)
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2559. # [19:43] <mstange> mccr8: oops, I hadn't realized my IRC view wasn't scrolled down completely :)
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2561. # [19:43] <mccr8> yeah I do that all the time
2562. # [19:43] <mccr8> I blame the disappearing scrollbars
2563. # [19:44] <mstange> RyanVM|sheriffduty: the push looks green, can you retrigger the nightly? Or should I do it?
2564. # [19:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mstange: it's already going
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2566. # [19:44] <mstange> mccr8: hah, but I'm partly to blame for them, too, so same difference ;)
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2568. # [19:44] <mstange> RyanVM|sheriffduty: great, thanks
2569. # [19:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mstange: should finish up shortly
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2580. # [19:51] <WeirdAl> RyanVM|sheriffduty: thanks for landing my XR patches; did the tbpl run for those include a request to build XR?
2581. # [19:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> WeirdAl: XR only runs on m-c
2582. # [19:52] <WeirdAl> ah
2583. # [19:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> on a nightly basis IIRC
2584. # [19:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so probably tomorrow morning
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2587. # [19:53] <WeirdAl> so I won't be able to declare victory just yet ;)
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2601. # [19:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/46cd787239b7 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 955850 - Fix regalloc safepoint issue. r=djvj, a=abillings
2602. # [19:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/659d9c2acc29 - Richard Newman - Bug 953312 - Fix idle observer notification in Places expiration. r=mak, a=bajaj
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2605. # [19:58] <ejpbruel> bz: can i generate a non-const getter with WebIDL?
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2609. # [20:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> evilpie: inbound bustage it appears
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2611. # [20:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> evilpie: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32769967&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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2621. # [20:05] <bent> RyanVM|sheriffduty, howdy, in a meeting
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2623. # [20:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: hi :) - I'm going to run a backout patch of bug 914762 through Try in a bit
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2625. # [20:08] <TimAbraldes> is there an event I can watch to find out whether my tab is going out of focus?
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2627. # [20:09] <TimAbraldes> kind of like TabSelect, but I want to know whether "any tab other than my tab" is being selected
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2633. # [20:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> evilpie: guess you'll get your chance to re-land after all :P
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2635. # [20:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61692f603cc4 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 6 changesets (bug 939294) for B2G bustage on a CLOSED TREE.
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2672. # [20:30] <ejpbruel> bent: ping
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2679. # [20:35] <ejpbruel> !seen bent
2680. # [20:35] <firebot> bent was last seen 29 minutes and 33 seconds ago, saying 'RyanVM|sheriffduty, howdy, in a meeting' in #developers.
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2682. # [20:35] <ejpbruel> khuey: ping
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2686. # [20:36] <@khuey> ejpbruel: pong
2687. # [20:37] <ejpbruel> khuey: what is the point of having the WorkerPrivateParent template in WorkerPrivate.cpp? afaict only WorkerPrivate inherits from it
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2689. # [20:38] <ejpbruel> khuey: it seems like an arbitrary split to me
2690. # [20:39] <@khuey> ejpbruel: stuff on WorkerPrivateParent is used on the parent thread
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2692. # [20:39] <@khuey> ejpbruel: stuff on WorkerPrivate is used on the worker thread
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2694. # [20:40] <ejpbruel> khuey: right, i can see that.
2695. # [20:40] <ejpbruel> khuey: let me explain the problem I'm running into
2696. # [20:40] <ejpbruel> khuey: i want to expose a method GetChildWorkers on my debugger global
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2700. # [20:41] <ejpbruel> khuey: the worker private has an array of child workers, which is of the parent type
2701. # [20:41] <ejpbruel> khuey: what i want is an array of the derived type
2702. # [20:42] <ejpbruel> khuey: should i just write a loop that copies over all the entries?
2703. # [20:42] <ejpbruel> khuey: i'll have to copy the array anyway, so
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2707. # [20:43] <@khuey> ejpbruel: and what are you going to do with an array of the derived type?
2708. # [20:43] <@khuey> ejpbruel: you can't use any of those methods on the parent thread ...
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2710. # [20:45] <ejpbruel> khuey: well, the signature generated by webidl expects an array of WorkerPrivates
2711. # [20:45] <ejpbruel> khuey: that is, i added a method sequence<WorkerPrivate> getChildWorkers();
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2713. # [20:46] <ejpbruel> sorry, sequence<Worker> getChildWorkers();
2714. # [20:46] <@khuey> yeah, ok
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2717. # [20:46] <@khuey> so http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/bindings/Bindings.conf#1510 should really be WorkerPrivateParent
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2720. # [20:46] <@khuey> I think the reason it's not is because the codegen can't handle C++ types that are templates
2721. # [20:46] <ejpbruel> khuey: hmhm
2722. # [20:46] <@khuey> ejpbruel: so just use ParentAsWorkerPrivate and hand that to WebIDL
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2724. # [20:47] <ejpbruel> khuey: so why is this thing a template anyway?
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2726. # [20:47] <@khuey> now we're in 302 bent territory
2727. # [20:47] <ejpbruel> khuey: that solves my immediate problem though, so thanks :)
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2740. # [20:52] <jdm> sheeri: I'd like to chat about the output of BMO's sanitizeme.pl when you have a bit of time
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2760. # [21:03] <bwc> So I have something I am getting ready to land that touches a dictionary defined in webidl. Are we yet at the point where we think this should work without a clobber?
2761. # [21:03] <@khuey> bwc: yes
2762. # [21:03] <@khuey> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ping?
2763. # [21:03] <Ms2ger> bwc, the CLOBBER file explicitly says yes
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2766. # [21:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> khuey: pong
2767. # [21:04] <bwc> Alrighty, just checking. Good to know!
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2769. # [21:04] <@khuey> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ever seen a mSyncLoopStack.IsEmpty() assertion?
2770. # [21:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> khuey: doesn't ring a bell offhand
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2775. # [21:04] <@khuey> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok
2776. # [21:04] <@khuey> RyanVM|sheriffduty: that's the debug version of the shutdown hang ...
2777. # [21:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> khuey: dammit, my backout's burning on try :( https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32774432&tree=Try
2778. # [21:04] <@khuey> I think
2779. # [21:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> backing out stuff from 3+ weeks ago is such a pain
2780. # [21:05] <@khuey> yay
2781. # [21:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> heh
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2784. # [21:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> khuey: i'll look next time we hit a debug hang and see if that assert is there
2785. # [21:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> does that assert point to a plausible cause?
2786. # [21:06] <@khuey> yes
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2794. # [21:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> aha, that's an easy fix it appears
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2806. # [21:12] <ejpbruel> bz: ping
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2815. # [21:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> khuey: my plan right now is to ping you/bent when I've got a green Try run to see where you stand on finding a cause/fix. If we're not close, I'm going to push the backout.
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2824. # [21:21] <bent> RyanVM|sheriffduty, there are lots of patches in progress that are using the current worker run loop stuff... backing out doesn't seem like the best option here
2825. # [21:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: that sucks
2826. # [21:21] <bent> RyanVM|sheriffduty, khuey may have caught it in the replay machine so let's see what he turns up
2827. # [21:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> timing out 1-2 times per *push* is pretty awful
2828. # [21:22] * froydnj admires all his mac debug bc tests running in parallel
2829. # [21:22] <bent> we can most likely make a short-term change to alleviate the timeouts
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2831. # [21:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bent: i'm open to whatever right now, as long as it comes soon
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2842. # [21:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f138d20db7d3 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 957437 - Avoid crashing in GfxInfo::GLStrings::EnsureInitialized() - r=jrmuizel
2843. # [21:30] <ejpbruel> bz: ping
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2851. # [21:33] <@bz> So a github question
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2853. # [21:33] <@bz> Say I want to make two independent changes to the same repo
2854. # [21:34] <@bz> Do I do two separate changesets with the same parent and two pull requests?
2855. # [21:34] <@bz> Two changesets on top of each other and one pull request?
2856. # [21:34] <@bz> Something else?
2857. # [21:34] <@bz> depends on project?
2858. # [21:34] <@gavin> I think the latter is common practice
2859. # [21:35] <@gavin> (not that I really have any experience to base that on)
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2866. # [21:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7cbba8097c61 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 957768 - Add an option to hide mochitest subtest results, r=jmaher
2867. # [21:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> karl: ping
2868. # [21:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> karl: the change to the summary of bug 957359 basically makes it impossible to star from tbpl
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2871. # [21:41] <Ms2ger> bz, two branches, two prs
2872. # [21:42] <Ms2ger> git checkout -b change1; make changes; commit; git checkout master; repeat
2873. # [21:42] <@bz> Ms2ger: hmm
2874. # [21:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4210f0c10679 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 957188 - Increase touch start tolerance to more easily detect taps. r=botond
2875. # [21:42] <@bz> Ms2ger: I already failed to do the -b bit for the first one, so... ;)
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2878. # [21:42] <Ms2ger> bz, and that didn't error out?
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2880. # [21:43] <@bz> Ms2ger: not so far!
2881. # [21:43] <@bz> Ms2ger: why should it have?
2882. # [21:43] <tbsaunde> why would it? your free to commit to master its just generally not a great idea
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2884. # [21:43] <Ms2ger> bz, oh, didn't checkout at all?
2885. # [21:44] <@bz> I just pulled
2886. # [21:44] <@bz> and then edited
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2888. # [21:44] <@bz> and then git add; git commit
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2890. # [21:44] <Ms2ger> Ah
2891. # [21:44] <Ms2ger> That's not usually done :)
2892. # [21:44] <@bz> interesting
2893. # [21:44] <tbsaunde> git checkout -b foo; git checkout master; git reset --hard master~ should get you to the same state as having done the last commit on a branch
2894. # [21:44] <@bz> as in it will move the commit to a branch?
2895. # [21:44] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, my response would be to reclone :)
2896. # [21:45] <Mook_as> I'd s/master~/@{upstream}/ though, that seems clearer
2897. # [21:45] <Mossop> branches are just pointers to commits, similar to bookmarks in hg
2898. # [21:45] <tbsaunde> bz: yeah, that moves the last commit to a branch
2899. # [21:45] <@bz> bizarre
2900. # [21:45] <@bz> the branch info is not stored in the changeset???
2901. # [21:45] <froydnj> no
2902. # [21:45] <Mossop> Nope, it's completely lost when the branch ends
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2904. # [21:45] * @bz really wishes he could find some sane docs for this setup
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2906. # [21:46] <tbsaunde> bz: I'd say storing the branch in the commit is odd because then what happens when you merge
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2909. # [21:46] <tbsaunde> I've heard the book linked to from git-scm.com is good, but never read it
2910. # [21:46] <Mossop> tbsaunde: you store the branch that the merge happened on in the commit? This is what hg does
2911. # [21:46] <Mook_as> the branch info is just a file in .git/refs/heads/(branch name), containing the sha1 hash of the relevant commit. git is extremely dumb.
2912. # [21:47] <zwol> tbsaunde: ... merging adds a new commits, which doesn't have to be on the same branch?
2913. # [21:47] <@bsmedberg> bz/dbaron: if I wanted to implement a rendering mode which clamped various CSS measurements to max/min values, where in our code would I actually implement that clamping?
2914. # [21:47] <@bz> So what confuses me
2915. # [21:47] <zwol> I dread the day I have to do serious archaeology on a git repo, and this is one of the reasons
2916. # [21:47] <@bz> is now I've moved the commit to a branch locally...
2917. # [21:47] <@bsmedberg> e.g. clamping margin/border/padding between 0 and 6px
2918. # [21:47] <@bz> on my hard drive
2919. # [21:47] <@bz> but my github fork, of course, still has it on master, right?
2920. # [21:47] <zwol> bz: correct
2921. # [21:47] <tbsaunde> zwol: but now those commits that happened on the branch are in multiple branches
2922. # [21:48] <@bz> So what's the point? ;)
2923. # [21:48] <Ms2ger> bz, have you pushed yet?
2924. # [21:48] <zwol> bz: you have to force push both the branch and the master, i think, to make github match
2925. # [21:48] <Mossop> Yeah but it's ok, you can force push and completely change the remote branches too...
2926. # [21:48] <@bz> Ms2ger: I pushed before moving it to the branch
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2928. # [21:48] <zwol> tbsaunde: The metadata records where the commit was *when the commit happened*. This is exactly what you want for archaeology.
2929. # [21:48] <zwol> tbsaunde: (in hg, that is)
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2932. # [21:48] <@bz> ms2ger: I started this whole conversation after submitting the first pull request, in fact. ;)
2933. # [21:48] <Ms2ger> I see
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2935. # [21:49] <tbsaunde> zwol: I'm unconvinced that's what you want
2936. # [21:49] <Ms2ger> bz, you can probably git push -f origin master; git push -f origin <branch> to fix github
2937. # [21:49] <@bz> Anyway
2938. # [21:49] <Mook_as> pretty sure you'll need to close the PR and make a new one; pull requests on github are weird.
2939. # [21:49] <@bz> Does anyone know any sane git docs?
2940. # [21:49] <@bz> All the ones I can find are ... not.
2941. # [21:49] <zwol> tbsaunde: I have spent my entire damn career doing archaeology, and believe me, that is what *I* want. YMMV.
2942. # [21:49] <Mossop> git considers "history" to be more mutable than any version control system I've ever seen. It has it's benefits but I find it pretty crazy
2943. # [21:49] <@bsmedberg> that would involve git being sane
2944. # [21:49] <@bz> There are basic tutorials.
2945. # [21:49] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg++
2946. # [21:49] <@bz> There are attempts to explain the object model.
2947. # [21:49] <tbsaunde> zwol: your free to want whatever you like ;)
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2949. # [21:50] <@bsmedberg> I actually use git a lot, but my docs are primarily stackoverflow searches
2950. # [21:50] <@bz> But I see nothing explaining what the VCS is trying to actually do
2951. # [21:50] <@bz> Much less _why_
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2953. # [21:50] <Ms2ger> I don't try to understand git
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2955. # [21:50] <Ms2ger> I don't think I'd have any of my limited sanity left if I did
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2957. # [21:51] <@bz> fwiw, for extra fun the default branch here is not named "master"
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2959. # [21:51] <tbsaunde> bz: so what do you mean by that? you have a data model and then you have a bunch of commands that change what is in the data
2960. # [21:51] <Ms2ger> gh-pages?
2961. # [21:51] <zwol> tbsaunde: so explain to me why you think that is not useful information to have when trying to figure out what the hell the person who wrote commit X was thinking, 5-10 years later.
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2963. # [21:52] <Ms2ger> zwol, tbsaunde, you guys can move to #gitvshg ;)
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2966. # [21:52] <zwol> ok, ok, i'll stop now ;-)
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2968. # [21:52] <tbsaunde> zwol: well, if there branch setup is anything like mine they fixed bug x on a branch named foobar or even bug y
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2972. # [21:53] <Ms2ger> bz, I think http://testthewebforward.org/docs/github-101.html may be useful
2973. # [21:53] <tbsaunde> I,I butter fs
2974. # [21:53] <@dbaron> bsmedberg, can get back to you after writing up interview feedback and getting lunch...
2975. # [21:53] <@bsmedberg> dbaron: ok, I'll send an email since I'm leaving soon
2976. # [21:54] <KWierso> RyanVM|sheriffduty: your new try push isn't happy either :(
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2979. # [21:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> KWierso: yeah, I don't think it's going to happen
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2981. # [21:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> KWierso: we're going to have to hope that khuey finds the answer soon
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2983. # [21:55] <karl> RyanVM|sheriffduty: oh, sorry; i thought webaudio would match
2984. # [21:56] * geekboy|afk is now known as geekboy
2985. # [21:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> karl: no, it looks for the test name
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2987. # [21:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> karl: though as widespread as it is, manual starring is already going to be pretty common
2988. # [21:56] <@bz> tbsaunde: the description of the data model I've seen is "it's all just the same kinds of objects"
2989. # [21:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> karl: hopefully the bug isn't around for too long ;) :P
2990. # [21:56] <@bz> tbsaunde: with no description of the _relationships_ between them
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2993. # [21:56] <@bz> tbsaunde: and the documentation for the commands doesn't reference what they do to the data model very much, afaict
2994. # [21:57] <@bz> tbsaunde: I mean, eventually I'll work with it enough that I'll start to build my own mental map, but it's ridiculous that I'm basically having to reverse-engineer something that should be documented...
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2997. # [21:58] <karl> RyanVM|sheriffduty: bug 957832 seems to suggest it is reproducible, so it should be fixable
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2999. # [21:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> karl: where does it stand on the priority list?
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3002. # [21:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/87c16d93e72d - Daniel Holbert - Bug 958203: Move logging macros from OpenFileFinder.h to its .cpp file, to fix 'redefined' build warnings in AutoMounter.cpp. r=dhylands
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3004. # [21:59] <@bz> ms2ger: thanks, that helps some. ;)
3005. # [22:00] <@roc> My Windows build is failing with an IPDL parse error, failing to parse "intr protocol" in PSpeechSynthesis. What do I need to do to fix this? I could update mozilla-build from 1.7 to 1.8 but if that's not going to fix it, I don't want to touch it
3006. # [22:00] <karl> RyanVM|sheriffduty: the alternative is backing out bug 943461, but that sounded important, so fixing this must be important
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3010. # [22:00] <karl> RyanVM|sheriffduty: roc and padenot are the ones who know what happened there
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3012. # [22:00] <Ms2ger> bz, fwiw, I haven't got a mental map so much as a protocol to deal with git :)
3013. # [22:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> karl: thanks
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3016. # [22:01] <@bz> Ms2ger: heh
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3023. # [22:05] <@roc> hmm, I bet it's stale .pyc files for the IPDL compiler
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3025. # [22:05] <@roc> why do we have all these .pyc files in the source directories anyway? That seems wrong
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3027. # [22:06] <nrc> roc: are you building using python -OO ?
3028. # [22:06] <nrc> that broke it for me
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3030. # [22:06] <@roc> no
3031. # [22:06] <Ms2ger> roc, hard to make python not put them there
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3033. # [22:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> roc: there's a bug about that somewhere
3034. # [22:07] <@bz> roc: because python insists on sticking them there. :(
3035. # [22:07] <@roc> nrc: you mean you got that exact error building with -OO?
3036. # [22:07] <nrc> roc: no, but similar
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3040. # [22:09] <nrc> bug 950864
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3043. # [22:10] <@roc> I'm pretty sure it's not -OO
3044. # [22:10] <@roc> it looks like removing .pyc files under /ipc fixed my problem
3045. # [22:10] <@roc> yay python
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3048. # [22:11] <@roc> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I'll look into that bug ASAP
3049. # [22:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> roc: thanks :)
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3053. # [22:13] <froydnj> running bc tests is just ridiculous
3054. # [22:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: I vote in favor of nuking them from orbit
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3057. # [22:15] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: \o/
3058. # [22:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: it'll be the most attention they've gotten in months
3059. # [22:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> </snark>
3060. # [22:15] <gaston> those .pyc files bit so many ppl over time..
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3062. # [22:16] <froydnj> I wonder if I started disabling one per day how long people would take to notice
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3064. # [22:16] <Ms2ger> froydnj, wfm
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3068. # [22:16] <froydnj> sweet, r?Ms2ger
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3070. # [22:16] <Ms2ger> f+
3071. # [22:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: I know they're not in bc, but can you put dom-level* on that list too?
3072. # [22:17] <froydnj> Ms2ger: step up and put your name on it, r+
3073. # [22:17] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, boo :)
3074. # [22:17] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Ms2ger might hunt me down for those :(
3075. # [22:17] <Ms2ger> I wouldn't go quite that far :)
3076. # [22:17] <Ms2ger> As long as level <= 3
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3082. # [22:22] <NeilAway> bsmedberg++
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3102. # [22:29] <Gijs> froydnj: what in particular is terrible about m-bc tests?
3103. # [22:29] <RyanVM> they take forever and chew up memory like candy?
3104. # [22:30] <RyanVM> oh, and trying to split them up leads to asserts
3105. # [22:30] <Ms2ger> And all mess with each other?
3106. # [22:30] <froydnj> much memory. very long. so sad
3107. # [22:30] <RyanVM> suggesting cross-pollution
3108. # [22:30] <RyanVM> good times
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3111. # [22:31] <Gijs> I'd love it if we split some of them up. There's a bug on that, it's blocked on releng which also wants to change the type of machines we use on linux and that causes more test failures, IIRC
3112. # [22:31] <cpeterson|phone> vlad: is there a game meeting now?
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3114. # [22:31] <Gijs> Ms2ger: file bugs about concrete cases, CC me.
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3117. # [22:32] <RyanVM> Gijs: no kidding, what do you think I'm referencing?
3118. # [22:32] <RyanVM> "oh, and trying to split them up leads to asserts"
3119. # [22:32] <Ms2ger> Gijs, the difficulty is finding the concrete cases
3120. # [22:32] <RyanVM> Gijs: right now, the best thing would be someone figuring out how to make the asserts go away so we can get the chunking turned on
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3123. # [22:33] <Gijs> RyanVM: so how many broken tests are blocking the chunking?
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3127. # [22:34] <Gijs> RyanVM: inasmuch as they're in browser/, I will r= disabling them to get the chunking turned on, and I'll own the bugs to re-enable a fixed version either until I fix it or until I find someone more suitable
3128. # [22:34] <RyanVM> Gijs: 4:36:27 PM - Ms2ger: Gijs, the difficulty is finding the concrete cases
3129. # [22:34] <RyanVM> first we have to know *where* the asserts are coming from
3130. # [22:34] <Gijs> :\
3131. # [22:35] <Ms2ger> Gijs, r? to disable browser/*?
3132. # [22:35] <Gijs> RyanVM: is the list in the bug exhaustive or not? I'm reading the comments and it's not clear to me.
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3134. # [22:36] <RyanVM> AFAIK
3135. # [22:36] <RyanVM> you can also see them on cedar
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3142. # [22:38] <RyanVM> Gijs: OTOH, bug 956202 is also causing lots of mbc pain right now
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3144. # [22:38] <RyanVM> feel free to jump in there ;)
3145. # [22:39] <RyanVM> or better yet, r?Gijs for killing browser_UITour.js? :D
3146. # [22:39] <Gijs> that bug has an assignee though...
3147. # [22:39] <RyanVM> Gijs: and *tons* of activity...
3148. # [22:39] <RyanVM> if you count tbplbot comments
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3150. # [22:40] <RyanVM> Gijs: Honestly, I'm probably going to disable it tomorrow anyway
3151. # [22:40] <RyanVM> OF is 8+ right now and I'm getting tired of it
3152. # [22:40] <RyanVM> been that way for a month+ at this point
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3154. # [22:41] * gps needs to kill .pyc files in topsrcdir
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3157. # [22:42] <Waldo> froydnj: hmm, you can brace-init unions in C++98?
3158. # [22:42] <Gijs> RyanVM: hrm? That bug was filed less than a week ago
3159. # [22:42] <Gijs> RyanVM: is the actual issue bug 951965 ?
3160. # [22:43] <RyanVM> Gijs: it's not the only one onf ile for browser_UITour...
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3163. # [22:43] <froydnj> Waldo: hm, maybe not in 98, but 03, yes
3164. # [22:43] <froydnj> Waldo: oh, 03 is with constructors
3165. # [22:43] <froydnj> Waldo: you can do brace-inits with ugly casts
3166. # [22:43] <RyanVM> Gijs: and it's currently #5 on OF behind the mochitest disconnects
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3168. # [22:44] <RyanVM> Gijs: and 2 in front of it are AWS infra-issues
3169. # [22:44] <RyanVM> so as far as test-related oranges go, it's top-3
3170. # [22:44] <RyanVM> top-2 if you don't count the shutdown hangs
3171. # [22:44] <Gijs> RyanVM: ok. It looks like the test timeout is just because it literally takes too long on the old 10.6 machines for debug
3172. # [22:45] * Gijs can add the requisite requestLongerTimeout, or split the thing up
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3174. # [22:45] <RyanVM> splitting up is preferable
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3176. # [22:45] <froydnj> (in 98, that is)
3177. # [22:46] <RyanVM> ahal: orange
3178. # [22:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/731d86661319 - Nicholas Hurley - Bug 957759 - Remove SRV experiment code (helps prevent crashes). r=mcmanus
3179. # [22:46] <RyanVM> ahal: guessing you need that mozharness patch...
3180. # [22:46] <ahal> RyanVM: no, it's probably the android specific subclass
3181. # [22:47] <Gijs> RyanVM: yeah, poking
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3183. # [22:47] <ahal> RyanVM: I can probably fix it quickly, though I don't mind re-landing if you backout
3184. # [22:47] <RyanVM> ahal: that's up to KWierso|sheriffduty
3185. # [22:48] <KWierso|sheriffduty> ahal: fix away
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3199. # [22:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83ca1eb288a2 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 957768 - Add hide_subtests argument to automation.py to appease Android on a CLOSED TREE, r=bustage
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3201. # [22:55] <ahal> KWierso|sheriffduty: RyanVM: fixed push, though I'm keeping an eye on non-Android mochitest just in case
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3203. # [22:55] <KWierso|sheriffduty> ahal: okay
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3207. # [22:57] <ahal> damn this stupid mochitest log size thing is taking way more time than it should :p
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3210. # [22:59] <Gijs> RyanVM: so apart from that test, what else is on your wishlist?
3211. # [23:00] <RyanVM> Gijs: "wishlist"
3212. # [23:00] <RyanVM> ?
3213. # [23:00] <Ms2ger> Gijs, fixing all the bugs :)
3214. # [23:00] <RyanVM> I'd like if memory fragmentation were improved
3215. # [23:00] <Gijs> RyanVM: I don't know where the "OF" list is
3216. # [23:00] <RyanVM> http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/orangefactor/
3217. # [23:00] <Gijs> so I don't know where to look for other items which would significantly improve the life of you and the other sheriffs
3218. # [23:00] <RyanVM> oh boy, up to 10 now
3219. # [23:01] <Ms2ger> The timeouts all over, I guess
3220. # [23:01] <Ms2ger> But that's probably jseng
3221. # [23:01] <RyanVM> and AWS problems
3222. # [23:01] <RyanVM> bug 947544 is also bc
3223. # [23:01] <RyanVM> fix attempted and failed
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3227. # [23:02] <RyanVM> Gijs: at least browser_885052_customize_mode_observers_disabed.js is disabled now
3228. # [23:03] <RyanVM> anyway, I'm out
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3231. # [23:03] <Gijs> RyanVM: thanks for doing that. I looked at that yesterday or the day before; it's basically an issue with the OS X fullscreen implementation AFAICT :(
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3234. # [23:04] <RyanVM|afk> Gijs: yeah, see philor's comment
3235. # [23:04] <RyanVM|afk> osx fullscreen has caused other pain in the past
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3238. # [23:05] <Gijs> argh, I totally missed that comment inbetween the tbpl bugspam :(
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3260. # [23:18] <dmajor> ted: I am amused, and pleased, that you recommend windbg even when we know someone has VS installed :)
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3266. # [23:21] <@ted> hah!
3267. # [23:21] <@ted> well, we have a nice wiki page on that!
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3270. # [23:22] <@ted> i wish they would mash the windbg command window into VS
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3273. # [23:23] <@ted> dmajor: but seriously, i've seen lots of community contributors that build firefox that i wouldn't call developers
3274. # [23:23] <@ted> so they can get VS express installed and build, but don't actually know their way around the VS gui
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3277. # [23:24] <dmajor> I would think the gui would be less scary than windbg for new contributors
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3279. # [23:24] <dmajor> but hey I'm not complaining. I can diagnose from windbg logs much better!
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3309. # [23:32] <@ted> dmajor: i think the main concerns there were that windbg is a free download, so that's easy for contributors, and it's also easy to just give them a set of commands to type/paste in
3310. # [23:32] <@roc> when you set a breakpoint on a function in the VS debugger and it breaks there, the function parameters aren't in scope or have the wrong values. It's maddening!!!
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3314. # [23:33] <dmajor> ted: yeah, it does make for easier script-following
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3321. # [23:35] <dmajor> roc: I don't particularly trust values in windbg either, for optimized code at least
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3370. # [23:57] <Ms2ger> KWierso|sheriffduty, yay, builds-4hr.js.gz is timing out
3371. # [23:57] <KWierso|sheriffduty> \o/
3372. # [23:57] <Ms2ger> At least according to nagios
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The end :)