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# [00:16] <philor> a little knowledge...
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# [00:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b02827c3d07d - Byron Campen [:bwc] - Bug 906990 - Part 12: Report statistics from all components when the MediaStreamTrack is not specified. r=ekr
# [00:18] <philor> if you pushed to try during the few hours that the permaorange b2g desktop mochitest-2 existed, and chose win64 builds without knowing that one is permaorange and the other is permared, and then try to retrigger your way to green, you could spend days triggering pending jobs which will never run
# [00:18] <philor> since, charmingly, we schedule win64 tests despite having exactly zero working win64 test slaves
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# [00:24] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: are all windows opt builds on beta supposed to be failing with "\\?\c:\builds\moz2_slave\m-beta-w32-d-00000000000000000\build\obj-firefox\dist\test-package-stage\mochitest\content\": The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect.
# [00:24] <KWierso|sheriffduty> ?
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# [00:25] <philor> seems unlikely to be a desired outcome, doesn't it? :)
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# [00:32] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: oh, joy, down-arrow
# [00:33] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: ick
# [00:33] <philor> apparently we've been saying "well, fuck it, at least sometimes it builds" since at least Tuesday
# [00:34] <philor> and that first one was on slave42, what am I supposed to remember about windows slaves in the 40s?
# [00:34] <philor> coop: ping :(
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# [00:35] <ejpbruel> khuey: ping
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# [00:47] <heycam> how can I control how many lines of context get copied in to the bugzilla comment when I add a review comment with Splinter?
# [00:47] <heycam> often I get a single line when more would be more useful to see what I'm commenting on
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# [00:49] <heycam> also, where is the code that adds the "Output exceeded 52428800 bytes, remaining output has been truncated" line? (do we have a tool that can search across all our repos for cases like this?)
# [00:50] <NeilAway> smaug: so, the xhr.onprogress = function() {}; fixed the second problem with the test
# [00:51] <NeilAway> smaug: the first problem was that it was confused as to whether it was using HTML or XML so I went with XHTML, is that OK?
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# [00:51] <@smaug> "it" ?
# [00:52] <@smaug> I'd prefer HTML for tests
# [00:52] <heycam> ah, found it http://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbot/file/b0d1c41fc002/master/buildbot/status/builder.py#l471
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# [00:54] <NeilAway> dmajor: better still, I can just install the Win7 SDK and that gives me a compiler and WinDbg without needing VS
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# [00:54] <dmajor> NeilAway: yeah
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# [00:56] <@khuey> ejpbruel: pong
# [00:57] <NeilAway> smaug: do XHR progress events work for HTML?
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# [00:58] <ejpbruel> khuey: i have a complete patch for bug 757133. it just lacks tests. can i flag you for f? on it?
# [00:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c4423bc77e5e - ffxbld - Automated checkin: version bump for firefox 27.0b5 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
# [00:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/03a888199505 - ffxbld - Added FIREFOX_27_0b5_RELEASE FIREFOX_27_0b5_BUILD1 tag(s) for changeset c4423bc77e5e. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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# [00:59] <@smaug> NeilAway: oh, you mean XHR data
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# [00:59] <@smaug> sure, it does work
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# [01:01] <NeilAway> smaug: well, I just tried it locally, and the test fails for HTML, but works fine as XHTML
# [01:01] <coop> philor: so are we backing out?
# [01:01] <@smaug> NeilAway: but not because of progress events
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# [01:01] <@smaug> NeilAway: but ok, use XHTML then
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# [01:02] <NeilAway> smaug: wait, let me fix typo
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# [01:06] <NeilAway> smaug: no, definitely an XML/HTML issue
# [01:06] <NeilAway> smaug: do you want to see the final patch?
# [01:07] <@smaug> sure
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# [01:09] <nthomas> coop: I think there's something branch specific going on, like build system differences on beta
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# [01:11] <@khuey> ejpbruel: I guess so
# [01:11] <@khuey> although you already did
# [01:11] <@khuey> ejpbruel: likely to be a bit before I get to it though
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# [01:12] <ejpbruel> khuey: can you give me an estimate?
# [01:12] <nthomas> coop: likely to affect the 27.0b5 build that's underway too
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# [01:12] <coop> :/
# [01:12] <ejpbruel> khuey: yeah, sorry, i figured you went to get coffee or something ;)
# [01:13] <NeilAway> smaug: ok new patch is up
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# [01:19] <@khuey> ejpbruel: I was debugging with bent
# [01:19] <@khuey> ejpbruel: maybe the week of the 21st?
# [01:20] <ejpbruel> khuey: ok
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# [01:20] <ejpbruel> khuey: by that time i probably will have a complete patch *with* tests ready for review
# [01:20] <ejpbruel> khuey: ill try to put that up before the 21st
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# [01:21] <NeilAway> smaug: replied to your try comment
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# [01:23] <KWierso|sheriffduty> abr: ping
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# [01:25] <@smaug> NeilAway: I think that tryserver push should be enough
# [01:25] <NeilAway> smaug: ta
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# [01:31] <gwagner> nsm: ping
# [01:32] <nsm> hey gwagner
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# [01:32] <gwagner> nsm: hey! it seems like we have a new perma orange with the test you landed yesterday: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32787282&tree=Pine&full=1
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# [01:32] <gwagner> nsm: thats on debug emulator builds.
# [01:33] <gwagner> nsm: we want to schedule this test suites on all inbound trees on monday so we probably will just disable the test for now
# [01:33] <nsm> ok
# [01:34] <nsm> i'll take a look
# [01:34] <nsm> before that
# [01:34] <gwagner> sure. thx
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# [02:29] <@bz> github question
# [02:29] <@bz> if I submitted a pull request
# [02:29] <@bz> and it got comments
# [02:29] <@bz> do I just do another changeset on that branch and push it to github?
# [02:29] <@bz> (and then submit another pull request?)
# [02:29] <@bz> Or do I amend the changeset?
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# [02:30] <@bz> The desired end state, presumably, is one single changeset with the correct changes...
# [02:30] <fabrice> bz: push to the same branch, that will end as an update to your original PR
# [02:30] <KWierso> bz: if you push to that same branch, the pull request should just update itself with the changes
# [02:30] <doublec> bz: you can rebase your branch and force push it
# [02:30] <KWierso> then you can squash the commits at some point, though you'll probably lose the context for the comments
# [02:31] * @bz is confused
# [02:31] <@bz> if I push another changeset
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# [02:31] <@bz> then how does it help if I squash the commits?
# [02:31] <@bz> I mean, if the pull request with two changesets is accepted, those two changesets get merged into the other repo, right?
# [02:31] <@roc> this is a disturbing demo: http://auduno.github.io/clmtrackr/examples/facesubstitution.html
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# [02:32] <KWierso> bz: for the jetpack team, the tradition has been to address review comments and iterate on the work in new commits, but to squash everything to a single commit before merging to keep a cleaner history in the official repository
# [02:32] <@bz> KWierso: Ah, I see
# [02:33] <fabrice> that's the rule in gaia also
# [02:33] * @bz doesn't expect more than one iteration here
# [02:33] <KWierso> comments against the older commits will still show up in the pull request until you squash
# [02:33] <@bz> So wait
# [02:33] <@bz> you squash the same branch that's in the PR?
# [02:34] <@bz> I mean, squashing commits I've pushed to github makes no sense
# [02:34] <@bz> unless you mean squash locally and put the result on a different branch then submit a new PR for the new branch?
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# [02:34] <froydnj> squash and |git push -f|
# [02:35] <gps> you force push the squash and the pull request is preserved
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# [02:35] <gps> but you lose comments on the now-defunct commits IIRC
# [02:35] <@gavin> that seems far from ideal
# [02:35] <froydnj> it is kind of a weird system
# [02:35] <@gavin> wouldn't a "messy commit history" be better overall?
# [02:36] <gps> gavin: no. because "messy commit history" may imply a commit that isn't good and you've sacrificed bisection safety
# [02:36] <gps> we strive for a history where every commit is green
# [02:36] <@gavin> well, "commit that fails to build" and "commit that represents some comments not addressed" aren't quite the same thing
# [02:36] <gps> never mind we currently do a pathetic job at achieving that
# [02:37] <@gavin> but sure, there's sometimes overlap :)
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# [02:37] <@bz> I mean, I'm not patching Gecko code
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# [02:38] <gps> if only github had a "rebase and squash this head" button
# [02:38] <@gavin> just need a precommit hook that rejects commits with build failures :)
# [02:38] <@bz> a "messy commit history" in this case would confuse people enormously, I think
# [02:38] <@bz> So I'd like to avoid it....
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# [02:38] <@gavin> I'm just wondering in theory, obviously the specifics matter
# [02:38] <@gavin> but "lost review comments" sounds horrible :)
# [02:39] <gps> blame github for that one. in their defense, it's hard to know what lines to apply them to when dealing with a force push
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# [02:39] <gps> this is actually a case where a patch-based review tool wins
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# [02:40] <gps> git is also to blame because the original commit will eventually be garbage collected from the repo. so even if they correlated comments to commits, that commit may disappear when it loses its ref
# [02:40] <gps> mercurial doesn't have this issue since pushed changesets live forever (they can only become hidden later)
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# [02:41] <tbsaunde> well, github could turn the gc off
# [02:41] <gps> yes they could
# [02:41] <tbsaunde> I think there's an arguement to be made that should be the default for bare repos, but *shrug*
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# [02:48] <shu> bz: ping; do you happen to know what compartments don't have |principals|?
# [02:48] <@bz> no idea
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# [02:48] <shu> bz: do you know who might?
# [02:48] <@bz> bholley
# [02:48] <shu> bz: ty
# [02:48] <bholley> bz: hi
# [02:48] <shu> bholley: do you know what compartments don't have |principals|?
# [02:49] <shu> bholley: and can those compartments contain JS scripts?
# [02:49] <bholley> shu: I think just random jsd compartments
# [02:49] <bholley> shu: or something. sec
# [02:49] <shu> bholley: what do they have in them?
# [02:50] <bholley> shu: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=JS_NewGlobalObject
# [02:50] <@bz> atoms compartment, if nothing else?
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# [02:50] <shu> bz: right, atom comps don't have principals
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# [02:50] <bholley> shu: or maybe not even that anymore
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# [02:51] <bholley> shu: at least for the mainthread runtime
# [02:51] <bholley> shu: there's also stuff like http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/base/src/ProxyAutoConfig.cpp#554
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# [02:51] <bholley> shu: in general, stuff that runs off-main-thread doesn't pass a principal, I think
# [02:51] <bholley> shu: like this: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/indexedDB/IDBObjectStore.cpp#637
# [02:51] <shu> what is a PAC thread?
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# [02:52] <bholley> shu: it's where we process autoconfig scripts
# [02:52] <bholley> shu: basically, for stuff where security matters, you can be guaranteed a principal
# [02:52] <bholley> shu: why do you ask?
# [02:52] <shu> bholley: okay, i see
# [02:52] <bholley> shu: (i.e. anything on the main-thread JSRuntime)
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# [02:53] <shu> bholley: looking at an intermittent crash from firebug users where they're hitting an Ion frame on the stack with JSD being enabled, which shouldn't be possible
# [02:53] <shu> bholley: so, JSD flips on debug mode for all compartments, except those without principals
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# [02:53] <shu> bholley: so i'm trying to figure out if it's possible for scripts from unprincipaled compartments to show up on the JS stack
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# [02:54] <bholley> shu: ugh
# [02:54] <bholley> shu: JSD is so totally insane
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# [02:54] <shu> bholley: i have half a mind to change status to WONTFIX, yes
# [02:55] <bholley> shu: yeah. We need to support it until firebug is off of it
# [02:55] <bholley> shu: anyway. I'm pretty sure that anything running on the main-thread JSRuntime should have a principals
# [02:55] <shu> bholley: cool, thanks
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# [02:56] <bholley> shu: even the JSD ones:
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# [02:56] <bholley> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/jsd/jsd_xpc.cpp#3405
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# [03:03] <@bz> hmm
# [03:03] <@bz> so back to github
# [03:04] <@bz> if I commit --amend
# [03:04] <@bz> and then push -f
# [03:04] <@bz> the PR doesn't autoupdate?
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# [03:13] <@bz> if I have a github fork of some repo
# [03:13] <@bz> can I just update it to the main repo on github?
# [03:13] <@bz> Or do I need to do it locally and then push?
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# [04:19] <@bz> gah
# [04:19] <@bz> -Wshadow
# [04:20] <@roc> I didn't know that Google had a WebGL graphing calculator built in
# [04:20] <@roc> https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=sqrt%28xx%2Byy%29%2B3cos%28sqrt%28xx%2By*y%29%29%2B5#q=sqrt%28x*x%2By*y%29%2B3*cos%28sqrt%28x*x%2By*y%29%29%2B5
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# [04:22] <@roc> I assumed that
# [04:22] <@roc> maybe it's not
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# [04:22] <@bz> not the 3-d
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# [04:23] <@roc> console spew suggests it is WebGL
# [04:23] <@dolske> if I disable webgl I get http://cl.ly/image/202J3j2N1o3Q
# [04:24] <@bz> nice
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# [04:24] <@dolske> poor robot. I think it's a refridgerator with a CRT for a body. I wonder if it can tweet from itself...
# [04:24] <nthomas> and boom goes nightly
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# [04:27] <@roc> er yeah
# [04:27] <@roc> sorry I was looking at a crash bug there :-)
# [04:28] <@roc> for which I have a fix! :-)
# [04:28] <nthomas> all is forgiven
# [04:28] * @bz is glad he has an old nightly
# [04:28] <@bz> Which is good, because today's nightly wouldn't paint its UI right anyway
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# [04:29] <KWierso> today's newer nightly would've
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# [04:41] <WeirdAl> hi all, hoping for a build engineer to tell me why my XULRunner build is failing :)
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# [04:42] <WeirdAl> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3978703
# [04:43] <WeirdAl> had the same problem on Linux, incidentally, yesterday
# [04:43] <abr> And, if someone's feeling in a helping mood, I'm having inexplicable errors trying to run mochi tests locally: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3978714
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# [04:46] <KWierso> abr: should be fixed by a backout of something
# [04:46] <abr> KWierso: So updating to head should fix it?
# [04:47] <abr> Ah, yes. It did. Thanks.
# [04:47] <KWierso> abr: I backed out something that did that, and then ahal relanded it (assumedly fixed)
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# [04:47] <KWierso> yep :)
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# [04:48] <froydnj> ooo, did someone make mochitests not spew a million TEST-PASS lines? hooray!
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# [04:49] <@njn> froydnj: but how will you know that they've passed?
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# [04:49] <abr> frodnj: Yes, I've done that many times. Simply dump core early in the test suite, and the list is much shorter.
# [04:49] <froydnj> njn: presumably (assuming it works the same way as xpcshell), it only dumps TEST-PASS if there's an error
# [04:50] <froydnj> njn: otherwise, no output is good output
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# [04:50] <froydnj> abr: :D
# [04:50] <@njn> froydnj: it dumps TEST-PASS if there's an error ?
# [04:50] <@njn> s/PASS/UNEXPECTED-FAIL/ ?
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# [04:50] <froydnj> njn: successful runs show |TEST-START foo\nTEST-END foo\n|
# [04:51] <froydnj> njn: unsuccessful runs show |TEST-START foo\nTEST-PASS foo...\nTEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL foo|
# [04:51] <@njn> froydnj: you wrote "it only dumps TEST-PASS if there's an error", which sounds wrong
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# [04:51] <@njn> unless I'm misunderstanding
# [04:52] <@njn> oh, I see
# [04:52] <@njn> so it doesn't print antying other than START/END unless there are failures
# [04:52] <froydnj> I guess I should have said TEST-PASS(es)
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# [04:52] <froydnj> right
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# [05:13] <firebot> I've never seen a 'mhomney', sorry.
# [05:13] <WeirdAl> oops
# [05:13] <WeirdAl> !seen mhommey
# [05:13] <firebot> I've never seen a 'mhommey', sorry.
# [05:14] <WeirdAl> glandium: that's the right nick :)
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# [06:05] <@bz> gah
# [06:05] <@bz> why do people insist on using the wrong types
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# [06:06] <@bz> Also, who decided to stomp all over namespace detail? :(
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# [06:46] <benjamin> it's a cry for stronger type systems
# [06:47] <@bz> what is?
# [06:47] <benjamin> people using the wrong types :)
# [06:47] <@bz> mmm
# [06:47] <@bz> no, it's like I have a public type
# [06:47] <@bz> that I want to pass to people
# [06:48] <@bz> and I document that
# [06:48] <@bz> "I will pass you a Foo"
# [06:48] <benjamin> and they use detail?
# [06:48] <@bz> No
# [06:48] <@bz> and I wasn't using detail
# [06:48] <@bz> but I had a type Bar inheriting from Foo
# [06:48] <@bz> that I have on the stack
# [06:48] <@bz> and then I init it and pass it to them
# [06:48] <@bz> So if they take a Foo it works
# [06:48] <@bz> but they insist on declaring their methods as taking Bar
# [06:49] <@bz> so I tried wrapping Bar in "namespace detail"
# [06:49] <@bz> And guess what? Then our tree totally blows up!
# [06:49] <@bz> And _not_ because of the people trying to use Bar; I fixed those!
# [06:49] <benjamin> (can't you just fix the people you're passing it to?)
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# [06:50] <@bz> Oh, I did
# [06:50] <@bz> what blows up is the C++ compiler
# [06:51] <@bz> which suddenly isn't sure whether when people say detail::XYZ they mean ::mozilla::detail::XYZ or ::mozilla::dom::bindings::detail::XYZ
# [06:51] <@bz> Even though only one of these types actually exists!
# [06:51] <benjamin> ah, good old c++ name resolution rules
# [06:51] <@bz> But since templates are involved, all sanity has to be thrown by the wayside
# [06:51] <@bz> and you have to assume that you can find any name in any namespace
# [06:51] <@bz> Or something
# [06:51] <@bz> Anyway
# [06:51] <@bz> The point is, the only in-tree consumer of namespace detail is mfbt
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# [06:52] <@bz> because anyone else can't use it
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# [06:53] <benjamin> yay
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# [06:55] <@bz> I mean, my goal is for people to not effing use those types
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# [06:55] <@bz> so maybe I should just generate a 1024-bit hash for my namespace name
# [06:55] <@bz> and use that
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# [07:15] <nrc> that is awesome
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# [07:41] <KWierso> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Firefox_Sync
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# [09:43] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jfkthame: hai, sorry had to backout your change
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# [09:46] <jfkthame> Tomcat|sheriffduty, yeah, just saw that :( ? it built fine for me locally, but i see another tryserver run in my near future!
# [09:46] <jfkthame> sorry about the redness
# [09:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np :)
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# [10:09] <KWierso> jfkthame, Tomcat|sheriffduty: parts of bug 953296 landed recently and it touched arrays. maybe it messed you up?
# [10:10] <KWierso> its changes don't appear to be in your try push
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# [10:12] <jfkthame> KWierso, maybe, though i think all i need is an added #include
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# [10:14] <Ms2ger> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currency/2014/01/the-open-office-trap.html?mobify=0
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# [10:17] <Ms2ger> gps, you might be interested in that too ^
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# [10:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58d7421ad39d - Jonathan Kew - bug 955957 - pt 1 - reimplement gfxSkipChars and gfxSkipCharsIterator to perform better with huge text runs. r=roc
# [10:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9e848547525 - Jonathan Kew - bug 955957 - pt 0 - add a simple unit test for gfxSkipChars functionality. r=roc
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# [10:45] <ewong> who do I ask about developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XUL content?
# [10:46] <ewong> was supposed to be sheppy right?
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# [10:55] <gerard-majax__> annevk, ping
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# [10:56] <annevk> gerard-majax__: morning
# [10:56] <gerard-majax__> annevk, hello
# [10:57] <gerard-majax__> annevk, I have a question regarding the Notification API
# [10:57] <gerard-majax__> annevk, I'm migrating gaia apps to use this one, but we are still lacking a data payload that could be serialized as part of the notification
# [10:57] <gerard-majax__> annevk, julienw told me that you were working on this API and pointed me to a bug regarding this :)
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# [10:58] <annevk> gerard-majax__: https://github.com/whatwg/notifications/issues/3
# [10:58] <gerard-majax__> yes
# [10:58] <gerard-majax__> this issue exactly
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# [11:00] <annevk> gerard-majax__: I haven't really thought through exactly when you need to do the structured clone
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# [11:01] <annevk> gerard-majax__: I guess you do it at least once when you invoke the constructor
# [11:01] <gerard-majax__> annevk, what should we do to work on this topic?
# [11:01] <annevk> gerard-majax__: and then for each Notification object you spawn
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# [11:02] <annevk> gerard-majax__: if you're implementing you could attempt to implement a model and propose it in that issue
# [11:03] <annevk> gerard-majax__: I suggest we name the new member "data"
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# [11:03] <annevk> gerard-majax__: alternatively you could wait for me to come up with the model and implement that
# [11:03] <gerard-majax__> annevk, we are relying on some hacks in gaia apps, but I'd like to make them disappear
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# [11:03] <gerard-majax__> annevk, do you have an idea how long it would require you for the model ?
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# [11:03] <gerard-majax__> I can hack something if it helps experimenting
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# [11:08] <annevk> It doesn't seem very hard, but it's kind of a new thing platform-wise and I'd like to not make things worse
# [11:08] <gerard-majax__> what do you mean, making things worse?
# [11:09] <annevk> Well, the platform is somewhat broken :)
# [11:11] <gerard-majax__> :( still not getting your point
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# [11:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/976a1fe9f080 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 919638 - Part 2: Change warmup semantics to be sequential in slices, low to high. (r=nmatsakis)
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# [12:31] <gerard-majax__> annevk, I'm not sure it's high priority
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# [12:56] <samgtr> anyone here ?
# [12:57] * mcsmurf looks aroud
# [12:57] <mcsmurf> n
# [12:58] <mcsmurf> no ;)
# [12:58] <mcsmurf> what's up though
# [12:59] <samgtr> mcsmurf: im interested in contributing to this org
# [12:59] <samgtr> where do i get started from ?
# [12:59] <padenot> smaug: #introduction !
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# [12:59] <padenot> ah not smaug
# [12:59] <padenot> samgtr: #introduction !
# [12:59] <mcsmurf> yeah, we have an extra channel for that ;)
# [13:00] <padenot> samgtr: you'll find people to guide you there, and explain you stuff
# [13:00] <samgtr> thanks padenot
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# [13:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2614c1884c63 - Olli Pettay - Bug 948246, don't change xhr.upload's event.total and always fire at least one progress event, r=bz
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# [13:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f64886a9237a - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 956995 - Stop using prtypes in unicpriv.h. r=smontagu
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# [13:18] <till|out> samgtr: also, there's http://whatcanidoformozilla.org/, http://www.joshmatthews.net/bugsahoy/ and https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide
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# [13:53] <NeilAway> hsivonen: hmm, why can't I change the character encoding of resource://gre/modules/debug.js ?
# [13:53] <NeilAway> hsivonen: (it defaults to my fallback, which I had set to Shift_JIS for testing)
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# [14:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b50e11876aee - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 942951 - Add missing GL_RGB32F and GL_RBGA32F formats to WebGLContext::GetBitsPerTexel. r=bjacob
# [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a01d64b4d985 - Rick Eyre - Bug 949643 - Implement VTTCue::PositionAlign. r=rillian
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# [14:06] <hsivonen> NeilAway: The menu is disabled for Gecko-internal URLs
# [14:07] <hsivonen> NeilAway: but then, Gecko-internal URLs should get UTF-8 as the charset from the channel
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# [14:07] <NeilAway> hsivonen: well, that one didn't...
# [14:08] <mcsmurf> resources:// counts as Gecko-internal then I guess?
# [14:08] <hsivonen> NeilAway: could be a bug in the necko machinery that implements resource:
# [14:08] <NeilAway> hsivonen: ok
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# [14:23] <cers> are there any specifics I need to know about when using mozregression to bisect and build mozilla-central? seems to me that all the builds just fail...
# [14:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d4bdd22683d9 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset e65b4f1bea88 (bug 948204) for bustage.
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# [14:24] <teoli> smaug: pong
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# [14:26] <RyanVM> Yoric: were you going to post an updated build system patch in bug 854169 like I asked after the last backout?
# [14:26] <RyanVM> Yoric: whatever, I'll take them from the Try push I guess
# [14:27] <@smaug> teoli: someone asked me about the layout of https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Navigator
# [14:27] <Yoric> RyanVM: Are you talking about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=854169#c38 ?
# [14:27] <@smaug> it is odd to see a list of properties on the left and then in the middle
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# [14:27] <RyanVM> Yoric: comment 40
# [14:27] <@smaug> and those aren't the same even
# [14:27] <Yoric> I seem to remember that I posted it a long time ago.
# [14:27] <Yoric> Did I forget?
# [14:27] <RyanVM> Yoric: yup
# [14:28] <Yoric> Note that the build bustage was actually caused by me following Ms2ger's suggestion, not the opposite :)
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# [14:28] <@smaug> teoli: kind of hard to read
# [14:28] <Ms2ger> What'd I do now?
# [14:28] <RyanVM> Yoric: Guess it doesn't matter that your Try push had the patches in a different order than they're numbered in the bug?
# [14:29] <Yoric> Ah, right. No, it doesn't matter.
# [14:29] <Yoric> I can renumber them if you wish.
# [14:29] <RyanVM> Yoric: k, I'm just using the Try csets
# [14:29] <RyanVM> will just land in thes ame order as there
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# [14:29] <teoli> smaug: mmmh. We intend to add the hierarchy links on the side too. But that's true it is a bit odd on the interface page (less on a specific method/property page)
# [14:29] <Yoric> Crossing fingers...
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# [14:30] <teoli> smaug: I'm writing it down, we have a work week in 2 weeks and one of the points is how to unified our side-links.
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# [14:30] <@smaug> teoli: ok
# [14:30] <teoli> smaug: Thanks for notifying us!
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# [14:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/508ad49212c0 - Till Schneidereit - Bug 886193 - Part 3: Relazify non-JITted JSFunctions on GC. r=jandem
# [14:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2984d53fe0cf - Till Schneidereit - Bug 886193 - Part 1: Remove usages of fun->nonLazyScript. r=jandem
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# [14:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d5cee476124 - Ali Akhtarzada - Bug 958086 - Adjust matrix in gfxPattern::GetPattern for Moz2D. r=bas
# [14:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f5e49d0f2e86 - Andreas Tolfsen - Bug 957248 - Use marionette.timeout if no explicit timeout is given for Wait. r=davehunt
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# [14:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee221e1e179f - Alexandre Lissy - Bug 942118 - Ensure that we call MessageChannel::ReportConnectionError() with no lock. r=bent
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# [14:51] <gerv> RyanVM: Thanks :-)
# [14:51] <RyanVM> gerv: please make sure future patches have it :)
# [14:51] <gerv> (This is a new thing to me; my system has been spitting out acceptable patches for ages now. When did this requirement come in?)
# [14:51] <RyanVM> we've always wanted commit information on checkin-needed patches
# [14:52] <mcsmurf> someone here knows how to build ICU and/or how --with-intl-api works?
# [14:52] <gerv> Perhaps you've always been kind enough to supply it without complaining for simple patches in that past ;-)
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# [14:52] <gerv> Seriously, I'll look at updating my system to provide it.
# [14:52] <Ms2ger> That's quite possible :)
# [14:52] <mcsmurf> I want to build with ICU on Windows, but it does not seem to work..
# [14:52] <mcsmurf> as in I get no ICU
# [14:53] <Ms2ger> icu don't
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# [14:53] <RyanVM> wow, 0/2 for Jed this morning
# [14:53] <gerard-majax__> I can't find any tests on system messages, do we have some?
# [14:53] <mcsmurf> or maybe I'm hitting some comm-central does not play nice with mozilla-central bug again
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# [14:57] <mcsmurf> ok, I'll try building FF with ICU, then I'll see what will happen
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# [15:11] <mcsmurf> firefox-objdir\js\src\intl\icu\target looks like there it builds
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# [15:15] <Gijs> gerv: ./mach mercurial-setup can doublecheck that acceptable patches are produced; you may want to give that a shot. :)
# [15:15] <gcp> ha, nice
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# [15:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d20c762cc1b6 - Till Schneidereit - Bug 896105 - Implement ES6 ArrayBuffer.isView. r=nmatsakis
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# [15:29] <nicklebedev-m> Hi guys, could someone help me with the problem - i have a firefox build error on linux but don't have one on windows - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32818704&tree=Try
# [15:29] <nicklebedev-m> it's connected with order of the variables initialization in the class constructor
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# [15:31] <nicklebedev-m> what can be a reason of this error?
# [15:31] <padenot> nicklebedev-m: just reorder the initialization list to be in the right order
# [15:31] <froydnj> nicklebedev-m: you are initializing the variables in the constructor in a different order than the order they are declared in the class
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# [15:34] <nicklebedev-m> ok, thanks for help, out of curiosity - is this a linux/gcc specific warning?
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# [15:35] <padenot> nicklebedev-m: because we have warning-as-error enabled on Linux
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# [15:35] <padenot> nicklebedev-m: see "cc1plus: all warnings being treated as errors", right after the bold text in your linkl
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# [15:35] <Ms2ger> padenot, also elsewhere, but I think MSVC doesn't warn
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# [15:36] <padenot> Ms2ger: right, considering the amount of warning on a win build, I assumed it was not enabled at all
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# [15:37] <Ms2ger> In some dirs it depends on the compiler
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# [15:45] <Yoric> RyanVM: Should I quake in fear?
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# [15:46] <Yoric> Anyone: I have C++ code implementing two XPCOM interfaces nsIFoo and nsIBar. Both nsIFoo and nsIBar inherit from nsIRequest. Which macro should I use to NS_DECL_... my class?
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# [15:46] <Yoric> I meant NS_IMPL_... my class.
# [15:46] <RyanVM> Yoric: not at this point ;)
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# [15:46] <Yoric> RyanVM: Pfew.
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# [15:47] <RyanVM> Yoric: the TelemetryPing jsm patch bounced
# [15:47] <Yoric> Yes, I've just noticed.
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# [15:47] <RyanVM> looks like he only fixed up a few of the tests?
# [15:47] * Yoric will take a look.
# [15:48] <Yoric> "Cu is not defined"
# [15:48] <Yoric> ?
# [15:48] <Yoric> Looks like a typo somewhere in the test.
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# [15:50] <@bsmedberg> I completely don't understand the reviewboard workflow.
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# [15:51] <gaston> bsmedberg: it's all in the cloud!
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# [15:51] <Yoric> bsmedberg: By any chance, to you have the answer to my above XPCOM interface inheritance problem?
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# [15:51] <@bsmedberg> gaston: no like, when I put a comment in, is it saved immediately, or is there another step I need to follow?
# [15:51] <@bsmedberg> Yoric: ah yes, I do
# [15:52] * Yoric hopes for a constructive proof of that claim.
# [15:52] <gaston> given that its all ajax i guess it saves on the fly
# [15:53] <@bsmedberg> Yoric: you need NS_INTERFACE_TABLE_HEAD
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# [15:53] <@bsmedberg> or actually
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# [15:54] <@bsmedberg> Yoric: NS_INTERFACE_TABLE_HEAD then NS_INTERFACE_TABLE_ENTRY for each of nsIFoo and nsIBar then NS_INTERFACE_TABLE_ENTRY_AMBIGUOUS for nsIRequest
# [15:55] <Yoric> Thanks.
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# [16:21] <Waldo> bjacob: your changes *only* work if the enum type is a template parameter, correct? and we are considering it out of scope to define enum classes inside of template classes, correct?
# [16:22] <bjacob> Waldo: correct, and correct, but besides the point :) the problem is I want to get at the underlying integer type of an enum which *is* itself a template parameter
# [16:22] <bjacob> Waldo: see the next patch on this bug, with TypedEnumSerializer template
# [16:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f4308d223cf - Ed Morley - Merge mozilla-central and inbound
# [16:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30f3710477c2 - Rail Aliiev - Bug 950681 - generate "buri" builds with limited memory for B2G. r=aki DONTBUILD
# [16:23] <Waldo> bjacob: yeah, I saw that -- I was trying to draw up an example to include in doc comments in TypedEnum.h, and I ended up writing the out-of-scope thing as being what I thought was being enabled, except on second thought/observation it wasn't, and it was only the template-parameter thing that was being fixt, and I wanted to be clear on the scope of the improvement
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# [16:23] <bjacob> Waldo: ok :)
# [16:24] <bjacob> Waldo: another way of putting it is "i really look forward to when we can drop GCC < 4.6 "
# [16:24] <Waldo> preach it, brother bjacob!
# [16:24] <Waldo> CLUESTICK ALL THE PARTNERS
# [16:24] <Waldo> (ahem)
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# [16:25] <gcp> boo! boo1
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# [16:25] <bjacob> Waldo: if i understand correctly a irc conversation which i saw on this channel a few days ago, partners want 4.4, but 4.4 is actually fine --- the only problem is 4.5, right? Who wants 4.5 ?
# [16:25] <bjacob> gcp: ^
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# [16:25] <froydnj> nobody wants 4.5
# [16:25] <gcp> 4.5 is the best!
# [16:25] <Waldo> bjacob: depends who you're talking to, and for what purpose
# [16:25] <Waldo> bjacob: I don't get nullptr til 4.6, at least
# [16:26] <mcsmurf> 4.5 is best
# [16:26] <bjacob> Waldo: i mean typed-enums-wise
# [16:26] <Waldo> bjacob: I think there was a claim only 4.6 was sufficiently un-buggy to get all the typed enum support...maybe
# [16:27] <Waldo> out of sight, out of mind for me for lots of this
# [16:27] <bjacob> ah, ok
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# [16:27] <Waldo> the headers have comments explaining, so I can be forgetful
# [16:27] <Waldo> or at least they should :-)
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# [16:27] <gcp> 4.5 has some bugs left
# [16:27] <Waldo> if they don't, well, someone will get angry and figure it out whenever it's possible to update
# [16:27] <gcp> I pointed out one in the exact same discussion...yesterday or so
# [16:28] <Waldo> o/~ time keeps on slipping into the future o/~
# [16:28] <bjacob> is android switching to clang as its NDK compiler at some point?
# [16:28] <gcp> You darned compiler hipsters/
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# [16:28] <gcp> bjacob: Don't think so. They added support, but I saw no sign of deprecation.
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# [16:29] <froydnj> both
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# [16:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3336288cfca8 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 945275 - Mark ThisV in rectifier frames r=jandem
# [16:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cbe9f7791348 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 957110 - Don't assert nursery start address when then nursery is disabled r=terrence
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# [16:41] <bjacob> Waldo: am I going to get this r+ ? :)
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# [16:41] <Waldo> bjacob: yes, a few minutes or so :-)
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# [16:42] <Waldo> or at least I expect so
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# [16:42] <Waldo> bjacob: actually
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# [16:43] <Waldo> or
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# [16:44] <bjacob> Waldo: it's ok, i'm waiting for bent's review anyway. I just want to know if now's the time to make my "final" try push (since this is extremely bitrot-prone)
# [16:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7383e6a8604 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 958395 - mochitest-plain mach command should add kwargs to options, r=jmaher, DONTBUILD, a=NPOTB
# [16:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f25299c7023d - Jon Coppeard - Bug 945275 - Update comment DONTBUILD
# [16:48] <Waldo> bjacob: so, looking at this -- why is the underlying type needed here? you have template<typename E, underlyingtype = ..., underlyingtype = ...>, but why couldn't you have template<typename E, E = ..., E = ...>?
# [16:49] <Waldo> bjacob: like, why not TypedEnumSerializer<mozilla::gfx::SurfaceFormat, mozilla::gfx::SurfaceFormat::B8G8R8A8, mozilla::gfx::SurfaceFormat::UNKNOWN>?
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# [16:50] <bjacob> Waldo: because constant (i.e. not "typename") template parameters cannot by random of class types, they have to be of plain integer type
# [16:50] <bjacob> Waldo: i.e. the problem is the 2nd and 3rd template arguments there
# [16:51] <Waldo> er, oh, I fail :-)
# [16:51] <Waldo> it would have to be TypedEnumSerializer<mozilla::gfx::SurfaceFormat, mozilla::gfx::SurfaceFormat::Enum::B8G8R8A8, mozilla::gfx::SurfaceFormat::Enum::UNKNOWN>
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# [16:51] <Waldo> blech
# [16:51] <bjacob> Waldo: and then it would only work on non-c++11
# [16:51] <Waldo> yup
# [16:52] <Waldo> *stab*
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# [17:01] <@ted> heh, google is moving chrome to "Aura", which is a cross-platform GUI toolkit they developed for Chrome OS
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# [17:01] <froydnj> they should have called it Yule
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# [17:01] <froydnj> actually, can we call our xul rewrite that?
# [17:02] <@ted> that is going over my head
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# [17:02] <froydnj> (x++)ul
# [17:02] <@ted> hah
# [17:02] <mcsmurf> :O
# [17:02] <mcsmurf> :D
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# [17:05] <abr> We'd have to completely rework the NSPR logging functions to call them "YULE_LOG_…" instead.
# [17:05] <Waldo> bjacob: okay, done
# [17:05] <Waldo> froydnj: isn't that just xul?
# [17:05] <Waldo> (++x)ul
# [17:06] <froydnj> Waldo: you win this round, sir!
# [17:06] <Waldo> pedantry's always useful for something
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# [17:14] <wolfiR> KaiRo: you've got something to do with crash-stats, right?
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# [17:16] <KaiRo> wolfiR: yes, I'm managing the overall stability efforts, and crash-stats is a primary tool in there - why?
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# [17:17] <wolfiR> KaiRo: at some point the decoding of crash dumps broke for openSUSE builds; I have no idea when and why but haven't changed anything myself
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# [17:19] <KaiRo> wolfiR: I figured that something might not be right there but Linux is usually not high in our focus so I didn't look into it closely - are openSUSE build sending the reports at all? can you point me to an example?
# [17:19] <wolfiR> just created https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/39fecb69-e54b-4eb0-8537-7a7e52140110
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# [17:26] <KaiRo> wolfiR: ok, this means that there is something wrong with symbols - either they are not uploaded correctly or we're not using them correctly
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# [17:28] <sheppy> Web APIs documentation meeting in 30 minutes! Everyone's welcome to join; see https://etherpad.mozilla.org/WebAPI-docs-2014-01-10 for agenda and how to attend.
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# [17:35] <KaiRo> wolfiR: I think it might be best to take this discussion to #breakpad where the team responsible for socorro is hanging out
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# [17:36] <@bz> um
# [17:36] <@bz> did someone break mach mochitest-plain?
# [17:36] <@bz> TypeError: run_desktop_test() got an unexpected keyword argument 'hide_subtests'
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# [17:37] <gps> Ms2ger: the open office article is on my reading list :)
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# [17:37] <gps> bz: bug 958395
# [17:38] <@bz> gps: thanks
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# [17:38] <Pike> where do we encode the list of RTL languages for CSS etc? I once knew, but apparently forgot
# [17:38] * @bz wishes we had tests for this....
# [17:39] <@bz> Pike: Do you mean RTL characters?
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# [17:39] <Pike> nope, languages, so that -moz-locale-dir() triggers and such
# [17:41] <@bz> Pike: lemme check
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# [17:42] <@bz> Pike: so that selector uses the localedir attribute on the root element
# [17:42] <@bz> Pike: else, calls IsLocaleRTL on the chrome registry
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# [17:43] <@bz> pike: using the relevant chrome package extracted from the document URI
# [17:43] <@bz> 241 // first check the intl.uidirection.<locale> preference, and if that is not
# [17:43] <@bz> 242 // set, check the same preference but with just the first two characters of
# [17:43] <@bz> 243 // the locale. If that isn't set, default to left-to-right.
# [17:43] <@bz> Where "locale" is whatever GetSelectedLocale returns for the package
# [17:44] <@bz> line 1411 -- pref("intl.uidirection.ar", "rtl");
# [17:44] <@bz> line 1412 -- pref("intl.uidirection.he", "rtl");
# [17:44] <@bz> line 1413 -- pref("intl.uidirection.fa", "rtl");
# [17:44] <@bz> line 1414 -- pref("intl.uidirection.ur", "rtl");
# [17:44] <@bz> In all.js
# [17:44] <Pike> ah, and that answers my question, Uyghur isn't on there
# [17:44] <Pike> thanks
# [17:44] <@bz> No problem.
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# [17:59] <Ms2ger> gcp, clearly the way to avoid depression is for you to stop working, then :)
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# [17:59] <bajaj> RyanVM: ping
# [18:00] <Ms2ger> gcp, what, not a fan of those? :)
# [18:00] <Ms2ger> gcp, and that sounds like a depressed thought ;)
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# [18:02] <gcp> Ms2ger: No, I'm very happy this study showed how to optimize our family.
# [18:02] <gcp> Ms2ger: I already told my wife I'm expecting slippers and beer.
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# [18:21] <@khuey> bah
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# [18:29] <fabrice> khuey: why y no quote properly!
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# [18:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92d510a09a8c - Mike Shal - Bug 875013 - Remove VPATH in media/libvpx; r=joey
# [18:30] <decoder> gps: does that js build system patch change the way we need to build standalone shells?
# [18:31] <decoder> i know gary's python harness will break, including jsbugmon and autobisect, everything based on it, but i just use shell scripts to build standalone shells
# [18:31] <decoder> if it changes, can you give a short description how to build standalone shells?
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# [18:32] <@khuey> fabrice: hmm
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# [18:32] <@khuey> fabrice: I think Li is the one who didn't quote properly
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# [18:33] <@khuey> lol
# [18:33] <@khuey> Your mail to 'b2g-internal' with the subject
# [18:33] <@khuey> [REDACTED]
# [18:33] <@khuey> Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
# [18:33] <@khuey> The reason it is being held:
# [18:33] <@khuey> Too many recipients to the message
# [18:33] <gps> lol
# [18:34] <gps> decoder: eventually, yes
# [18:34] <gps> glandium is going to merge js/src/configure with the main configure
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# [18:35] <gps> going to merge js/src's build system into the main one. standalone builds should still work. i'm just not sure what he has in mind yet
# [18:35] <decoder> gps: so if the patch as it is now lands, building a standalone shell will still work?
# [18:36] <decoder> (the same way)
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# [18:36] <gps> decoder: I'm not sure. you should download the patch and confirm. you have about 5 hours until glandium wakes up. possibly more since it's a saturday for him
# [18:36] <decoder> there is a lot of automation using that standalone shell build stuff, so if you plan to break it, it would be good to provide a description of how to build them now :)
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# [18:36] <decoder> gps: I can do that. but you should be aware that this affects all devs
# [18:36] <decoder> if you dont know what happens, then you should try
# [18:37] <decoder> if you break standalone js shell building, youll make a lot of people very angry^^
# [18:37] <gps> decoder: I'm aware. I've asked him before to run things by JS devs before anything backwards compatible breaks
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# [18:37] <decoder> okay
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# [18:37] <gps> i don't like when people change my workflow either
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# [18:38] <decoder> i dont mind changing the workflow =)
# [18:38] <decoder> i just want to have it documented
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# [18:39] <decoder> we cant afford taking days to figure out what needs to be done now, if it changes
# [18:39] <decoder> because we have a lot of servers using this day by day
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# [18:57] <NeilAway> hsivonen++
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# [19:07] <froydnj> gaston: oh, good, you did try building sparc and/or looking at the files before following my misguided comment :)
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# [19:10] <sfink> decoder: aiui, this first change won't change how you build the shell, but it'll stop putting the binary in objdir/js. You'll need to run it from objdir/dist/bin/js instead.
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# [19:13] <bjacob> bsmedberg: if you have time (it's a very small patch) i wouldn't mind you stealing the review on the remaining r? patch on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=958375
# [19:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56974d58bbe6 - Mike Hommey - Bug 958437 - Build static directories as part of compile instead of libs and tools; r=gps
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# [19:20] <@bsmedberg> NeilAway: hrm, do you know why we don't have constructors from wide string literals?
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# [19:21] <@bsmedberg> template<int N> nsTString_CharT(const char_type(&str)[N])) should be possible, shouldn't it?
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# [19:21] <jcranmer> IMHO, ns(A)(C)String should have constructors for const char_type(&str)[N]
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# [19:22] <froydnj> Waldo: huh, JS code can use static_assert now?
# [19:22] <jcranmer> [this would also let you pass in a literal to someone expecting A(,C,UTF8)String in an IDL file
# [19:22] <Waldo> froydnj: everybody can use static_assert
# [19:23] <Waldo> froydnj: everybody *should*
# [19:23] <froydnj> ah, the JS code must not have gotten the ehsan treatment yet
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# [19:23] <@ehsan> ?
# [19:23] <Waldo> froydnj: just that JS_STATIC_ASSERT didn't include a message in it (contra MOZ_STATIC_ASSERT), so you can't just convert it over
# [19:23] <Waldo> froydnj: and assigning good messages is, I think, something that should be done in conversion
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# [19:23] <@ehsan> froydnj: fwiw I've mostly not touched js/src in any of my cleanups... I've tried a couple of times but each time people have said no to me
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# [19:24] <@ehsan> I tried once for stdint stuff
# [19:24] <froydnj> s/JS_ASSERT\(([^)]+\)\)/MOZ_STATIC_ASSERT(\1, "new hotness!")/g done
# [19:24] <@ehsan> and maybe for static_assert too
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# [19:24] <Waldo> ehsan: when did you try for stdint stuff? we changed, there
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# [19:25] <Ms2ger> froydnj, that would be pretty amazing, but Rice's theorem doesn't let you do that
# [19:25] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: can we have C++ constructor delegation in Mozilla code now?
# [19:26] <froydnj> Ms2ger: EFORGETCOMPUTATIONALTHEORYLONGTIMEAGO
# [19:26] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: bsmedberg isn't there sort of a problem with that in that if you do const char foo[100]; nsCString bar(foo); gets the same template as nsCString("foobar") ?
# [19:26] <@ehsan> Waldo: long time ago, js was using things like int16, uint32 iirc
# [19:26] <Ms2ger> froydnj, every static analysis is undecidable
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# [19:26] <froydnj> Ms2ger: EBADSEDINVOCATION
# [19:26] <@bsmedberg> tbsaunde: that is true, yes
# [19:26] <@ehsan> Waldo: I asked whether a patch would be accepted and the answer was no (or not now or something to that effect)
# [19:26] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: nope
# [19:26] <Waldo> hm, maybe my memory is just bad, and we kept around the stupid s/_t// typedefs longer than the initial switch
# [19:28] <jld> Let me guess: I broke something that the try runs I forgot to do would've caught.
# [19:28] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: well, if we could use operator "" :-)
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# [19:29] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: true :/
# [19:30] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: want to be the succer who gets gecko in b2g to be built with something other than gcc 4.4?
# [19:30] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: I have never built b2g
# [19:30] <tbsaunde> oh wait, I want ccrework to happen sooner rather than later
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# [19:31] <jcranmer> and I have a proposal due on tuesday that hasn't been started yet
# [19:31] <NeilAway> bsmedberg: you can't construct from a literal, because the const char* constructor is always a better match
# [19:31] <@bsmedberg> huh
# [19:32] <@bsmedberg> c++ is weird
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# [19:32] <NeilAway> bsmedberg: also what tbsaunde said
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# [19:33] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, that's news to you? :)
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# [19:35] <@bsmedberg> Ms2ger: yes
# [19:35] <@bsmedberg> oh, you mean the C++ bit
# [19:35] <@bsmedberg> yeah no, that's not news
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# [19:40] <froydnj> woohoo, five digit bug numbers appearing in my mailbox
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# [19:42] <@khuey> froydnj: the verifyme thing?
# [19:42] <@khuey> or something else?
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# [19:42] <froydnj> khuey: yeah, the verifyme thing
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# [19:46] <RyanVM> khuey: any progress on the shutdown hangs?
# [19:46] <@khuey> RyanVM: we have a patch in hand
# [19:46] <@khuey> I'm investigating some other issues we uncovered
# [19:46] <RyanVM> khuey: nice :)
# [19:46] <dholbert> gwagner, ping
# [19:46] <RyanVM> thanks
# [19:46] <froydnj> is that patch worth two on the tree?
# [19:46] <@khuey> it's not 100% clear if there's a single hang
# [19:46] <@khuey> or multiple causes
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# [19:47] <RyanVM> oh shit :)
# [19:47] <gwagner> dholbert: hey! give me 5 min
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# [19:47] <dholbert> gwagner, np, unping; I'll just comment on bug
# [19:47] <@khuey> froydnj: one on the tree is worth two in hand or four in the bush?
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# [19:48] <mikedeboer> wow, RyanVM, you're on top of it! :)
# [19:48] <froydnj> clearly I need to be looking in the weeds to get my work done
# [19:48] <RyanVM> mikedeboer: I try :D
# [19:48] <mikedeboer> well, I can do no other than RyanVM++
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# [19:49] <RyanVM> mikedeboer: I had to BS the risk assessment, but hopefully I did ok :)
# [19:49] <RyanVM> gavin: I suppose we should probably get the talos logspam patch uplifted too
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# [19:50] <bjacob> bent: bsmedberg: can either of you do my review on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=958375 ?
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# [19:52] <mikedeboer> RyanVM: 'twas spot-on
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# [19:53] <bent> bjacob, yeah, i can, just not quite done with some other in progress stuff
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# [19:53] <bjacob> bent: sorry for being so insistent, it's just that this patch queue bitrots every hours
# [19:54] <bent> ok
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# [19:54] <froydnj> bjacob: I could probably review it
# [19:55] <bjacob> froydnj: decide with bent :)
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# [19:55] <bent> froydnj, if you're free go for it
# [19:55] <Ms2ger> Anybody know how to get symbols in gdb for a `make install`d build?
# [19:55] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg?
# [19:56] <RyanVM> mikedeboer: w00t
# [19:56] <@bsmedberg> Ms2ger: I don't remember... I think there's a parameter to `make install` which will suppress stripping
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# [19:56] <Ms2ger> Ah, too late, then
# [19:56] <@bsmedberg> PKG_SKIP_STRIP=1 maybe
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# [19:58] <gwagner> dholbert: yes please push this tweak.
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# [19:58] <dholbert> gwagner, will do. thanks
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# [19:59] <RyanVM> dholbert: holy crap, a 15min test
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# [19:59] <RyanVM> man I wish we had a way to break that into smaller pieces
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# [19:59] <dholbert> RyanVM, only on B2G debug
# [19:59] <froydnj> RyanVM: make it a 0min test!
# [19:59] <RyanVM> i know, but still
# [19:59] <dholbert> RyanVM, and we could, but I'm not sure it's worthwhile
# [19:59] <@bz> heh
# [19:59] <@bz> Which test is this?
# [19:59] <RyanVM> presumably android debug will be similar eventually too
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# [20:00] <dholbert> bz, the one added in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=940229
# [20:00] <dholbert> ( test_extra_inherit_initial.html )
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# [20:00] <@bz> huh
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# [20:01] <dholbert> RyanVM, it's possible we could optimize the test a bit, making it not quite as exhaustive
# [20:01] <@bz> How much of it is going back to the event loop for every single property?
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# [20:01] <@bsmedberg> gps: where do I see about the syntax of .rst files?
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# [20:01] <@bz> because I don't see why this test should take so long....
# [20:02] <bjacob> froydnj: many thanks
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# [20:02] <dholbert> bz, dunno
# [20:03] <botond> jld: what has C++11 done to you? :)
# [20:03] <@gavin> RyanVM: which?
# [20:03] <froydnj> bjacob: writing one followup comment, one sec
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# [20:03] <RyanVM> gavin: bug 951174
# [20:03] <bjacob> froydnj: oops, pushed already :)
# [20:03] <gps> bsmedberg: http://sphinx-doc.org/rest.html is a good start
# [20:03] <froydnj> bjacob: heh. could address in a followup, I suppose, not critical
# [20:04] <jld> botond: Apparently I now need to insert a space between string literals and <inttypes.h> macros.
# [20:04] <jld> Because `operator ""`.
# [20:04] <gps> bsmedberg: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html is rst core. Sphinx adds some magic on top of it
# [20:04] <@gavin> RyanVM: sure, I guess
# [20:04] <gps> bsmedberg: when I first started using Sphinx and rst, I had a heck of a time teasing apart rst core from Sphinx. but the markup language has grown on me
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# [20:07] <botond> jld: ah. i didn't know about that incompatibility
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# [20:10] <RyanVM> gavin: safe to call it no risk?
# [20:10] <@gavin> sure
# [20:10] <Ms2ger> gps, in the sky, clearly
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# [20:11] <decoder> sfink: yea thx. the way we build JS shells, we dont put them in the objdir anyway, but we create our own dir and call configure. that still works though, i just confirmed it
# [20:11] <decoder> gps: ^^
# [20:11] <decoder> oh wait
# [20:11] <decoder> the location inside that dir also changes then
# [20:12] <sfink> yes
# [20:12] <decoder> that will break automation
# [20:12] <decoder> >.<
# [20:12] <sfink> though the new location should already work
# [20:12] <sfink> apparently, it's been putting it in there too all along
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# [20:12] <decoder> previously when ive build the shell, i had something like mybuilddir/js
# [20:12] <decoder> that symlink is missing now it seems
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# [20:13] <decoder> i have to use mybuilddir/js/src/shell/js now
# [20:14] <mjrosenb_> decoder: ugh. that is going to make my scripts sad.
# [20:14] <decoder> yep, same here
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# [20:15] <decoder> mjrosenb_: one can adjust the shell script to copy the symlink out of js/src into toplevel as a quick fix
# [20:15] <decoder> if it exists
# [20:15] <sfink> decoder: don't use mybuilddir/js/src/shell/js. That will probably disappear too.
# [20:15] <sfink> use mybuilddir/dist/bin/js
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# [20:15] <decoder> sfink: okay
# [20:16] <sfink> oh, and that reminds me of another script I need to go fix up for this too. :(
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# [20:18] <@ted> this is what i get for holding you JS devs' hands when i fiddled with the JS build system years ago
# [20:18] <mjrosenb_> ted: wait, whatnow?
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# [20:18] <sfink> our undying love and affection? :)
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# [20:19] <@ted> mjrosenb: i put a js binary symlink in js/src when i moved js.cpp to shell/
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# [20:19] <sfink> and it's been handy, thanks!
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# [20:20] <sfink> but not handy enough to get in the way of build system improvements
# [20:20] <sfink> so if it has to go, it's ok by me
# [20:21] <gkw> glandium (or gps): please please do not land bug 950298 until we have figured out how to move forward
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# [20:24] <RyanVM> gkw: last I checked, you were getting paid to work at work weeks :P
# [20:24] * RyanVM ducks
# [20:24] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, nah, work weeks are for drinking bourb on
# [20:25] * @khuey will have to inform jst of htat
# [20:25] <RyanVM> sounds like I got hosed at the last one then :(
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# [20:25] <sfink> yeah, sorry, I wasn't saying it's ok by me to screw over current users, just that I wouldn't block the (eventual) change for its own sake
# [20:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ede01d9d418 - Felix S. Klock II - Bug 939715: TypedObject PJS API tests (r=nmatsakis).
# [20:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b29977351c4 - Felix S. Klock II - Bug 939715: TypedObject PJS API implementation (r=nmatsakis).
# [20:26] <gkw> RyanVM: it's a B2G work week, not JS
# [20:26] <RyanVM> gkw: I'm kidding anyway :)
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# [20:30] <froydnj> hm, open the xerox workcentre scan or not...
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# [20:32] <@khuey> not
# [20:33] <dholbert> Is there any significance to the return value of the return code from nsIRunnable::Run, in concrete implementations of nsIRunnable?
# [20:33] <dholbert> i.e. if Run returns NS_ERROR_FAILURE vs. NS_OK, is there a chance any code is going to notice and care?
# [20:33] <froydnj> dholbert: IIRC, the event loop code doesn't care
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# [20:33] <@khuey> dholbert: no, it gets ignored
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# [20:34] <dholbert> khuey / froydnj, ok, that's what I thought -- thanks
# [20:34] <Ms2ger> (Not volunteering)
# [20:35] <@khuey> Ms2ger: probably not, since I expect we have JS impls of nsIRunnable
# [20:35] <Ms2ger> Bah
# [20:35] <@bz> that's one thing xpidl/xpconnect does well
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# [20:35] <@bz> let you use js and c++ stuff kinda interchangeably
# [20:35] <@khuey> "just work"?
# [20:36] <froydnj> ISTR code doing things like |create runnable; if (main thread) return x->Run(); else NS_Dispatch(...)|
# [20:36] <@bz> (by sweeping under the hood all the stuff you might worry about, like whether anyone will see your exceptions)
# [20:36] <@khuey> froydnj: that's pretty shitty
# [20:36] <froydnj> "frighten children"?
# [20:36] <Ms2ger> I'm going with froydnj on this one
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# [20:38] <jld> I assume the bad part of that is that the condition is (main thread) and the do-it-later is NS_Dispatch.
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# [20:39] <froydnj> quick grep suggests that two places in DOM care about Run's result and that's it
# [20:40] <froydnj> aha, this: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/base/src/nsPACMan.cpp#240
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# [20:40] <jld> Because I did something similar to deal with the C++ callback hell introduced by trying to make about:memory more e10s-ful.
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# [20:40] <froydnj> guess that doesn't care about the result, though
# [20:41] <mjrosenb> ted: ahh, I just use the one in shell. (but not dist/bin)
# [20:41] <@bz> btw, the naming on PACMan is almost as silly as the dns/idn mess....
# [20:41] <decoder> mjrosenb: we cant even symlink toplevel js because the directory is also called js ...
# [20:41] <decoder> now I have to change all of the fuzzing config at the right time
# [20:41] <decoder> ...
# [20:42] <mjrosenb> decoder: or just detect it after compilation.
# [20:42] <decoder> mjrosenb: yea.. but then what?
# [20:43] <decoder> the fuzzing config expects it in builddir/js
# [20:43] <decoder> which is now a directory
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# [20:43] <mjrosenb> decoder: right. can't you change the fuzzer to look at a known set of locations to see where the js binary is
# [20:43] <decoder> right
# [20:43] <mjrosenb> decoder: so if it ever moves in the future, you just add an entry.
# [20:43] <Ms2ger> if isdir(js) { js/src/js } else { js }
# [20:43] <decoder> Ms2ger: thats a static config.. not code
# [20:44] <sfink> er, can't you just change it to dist/bin/js, and it'll work before and after this change, and should keep working after any later changes too?
# [20:44] <decoder> and it's not a mozilla specific tool either
# [20:44] <decoder> sfink: huh? dist/bin/js doesnt exist right now
# [20:44] <sfink> check again
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# [20:44] <decoder> oh
# [20:44] <decoder> indeed it does
# [20:44] <mjrosenb> sfink: is this in a shell build, or a browser build?
# [20:44] <decoder> sfink: thanks
# [20:44] <firebot> Check-in:
# [20:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d46aa338c518 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 958075: Request longer timeout in test_extra_inherit_initial.html, so that it won't hit the timeout limit on B2G debug mochitest runs. (test-tweak only, no review)
# [20:45] <sfink> shell-only build
# [20:45] <decoder> mjrosenb: it also exists for a shell build. it's symlinked
# [20:45] <sfink> to be honest, that was my exact same reaction
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# [20:45] <sfink> and I didn't believe it either until I checked
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# [20:46] <RyanVM> jld: rough morning for your patches :(
# [20:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d5fcd8a3a99 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 958256 - Mark standard_derivatives as unsupported on Vivante drivers - r=jgilbert,snorp
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# [20:47] <jld> RyanVM: Yeah. )-: And I think one of them can be fixed by adding some whitespace that would be insignificant in C or pre-11 C++.
# [20:47] <RyanVM> yikes
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# [20:49] <mjrosenb> jld: where is whitspace significant in C++11? I only know of foo<bar<int> >?
# [20:49] <jld> mjrosenb: "%"SCNx64 vs. "%" SCNx64
# [20:49] <jld> mjrosenb: The former is an invocation of a function named `operator"" SCNx64`, apparently.
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# [20:50] <froydnj> welcome to c++11 !
# [20:50] <tbsaunde> mjrosenb: I think rpearl had an example using sizeof and weird array stuff, but don't remember the details
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# [20:51] <mjrosenb> tbsaunde: that wasn't whitespace dependent, but yeah, that one is crazy.
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# [20:51] <mjrosenb> tbsaunde: http://www.endofunctor.org/~rpearl/sizeof.c
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# [20:52] <tbsaunde> mjrosenb: ah, ok
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# [20:56] <RyanVM> dholbert: were you going to look into why that test runs for so long?
# [20:56] <dholbert> RyanVM, I might take a crack at it with a profiler, yeah
# [20:56] <RyanVM> cool, thanks :)
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# [20:57] <dholbert> RyanVM, doing several things at once ATM
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# [20:57] <RyanVM> aren't we all? :)
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# [21:00] <gaston> RyanVM: was it you that said 'npotb patches dont need approval for aurora' ? :)
# [21:00] <RyanVM> probably
# [21:00] <gaston> i've just set approval-aurora? on 958234, and that reminded me something related...
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# [21:00] <RyanVM> i have some other stuff to push to arora
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# [21:00] <RyanVM> if you want, I'll take it as a ride-along
# [21:01] <gaston> sure
# [21:01] <RyanVM> k
# [21:01] <gaston> thanks!
# [21:01] <RyanVM> np
# [21:01] <@bsmedberg> aklotz: ping
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# [21:04] <aklotz> bsmedberg: pong
# [21:04] <@bsmedberg> aklotz: I don't understand why the patch in bug 947256 is safe (the startup cache one)
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# [21:04] <@bsmedberg> aklotz: you're operating on the pointer, but how do you know that it's still a valid pointer without refcounting it or something?
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# [21:05] <aklotz> bsmedberg: That thread and timer are tightly coupled to the StartupCache object. If the StartupCache object is destroyed, the timer is destroyed and the thread are joined. The only time those can be called is if the associated StartupCache object still exists.
# [21:07] <@bsmedberg> aklotz: hrm ok, in the destructor
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# [21:07] <@bsmedberg> aklotz: ok, makes sense now, I'm just going to ask for a comment because that's confusing
# [21:08] <aklotz> bsmedberg: sure thing
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# [21:20] <Yoric> gps: ping
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# [21:23] <Yoric> gps: How can I activate the logs of FHR programmatically?
# [21:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/cdd4b0b788a3 - Mike de Boer - Bug 951142 - Check for a close method to be present on the binding before invoking it. r=gavin, a=bajaj
# [21:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e8465ab9a529 - Shane Caraveo - Bug 935773 - Fix mark icon on windows. r=Gijs, a=bajaj
# [21:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ea46482ad289 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 903274 - Have the search bar binding's initialization callback bail out if the binding is destroyed. r=MattN, a=bajaj
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# [21:28] <dholbert> RyanVM / bz, that test takes 17 seconds on Android 2.2 opt, btw
# [21:28] <dholbert> so there might be something a bit nuts about B2G debug, to make it that much slower
# [21:28] <RyanVM> dholbert: wow
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# [21:28] <RyanVM> that sounds really fishy
# [21:29] <RyanVM> i wonder how long it takes on android debug
# [21:29] <RyanVM> they run on cedar if you want to look
# [21:29] <dholbert> looking
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# [21:30] <dholbert> RyanVM, 39 sec
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# [21:30] <RyanVM> wow
# [21:30] <dholbert> RyanVM, such debug
# [21:30] <RyanVM> definitely sounds like something is going horribly wrong on b2g
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# [21:33] <@bz> dholbert: yeah, that's more like the sort of numbers I'd expect....
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# [21:34] <@bz> dholbert: Can you point me to a relevant b2g debug log?
# [21:34] <dholbert> bz, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32748915&tree=Pine&full=1
# [21:34] <dholbert> bz, search for "test_extra"
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# [21:35] * @bz tries that in chrome, watches it hang the browser
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# [21:37] <RyanVM> bz: clearly we need to build a benchmark around it then ;)
# [21:37] <dholbert> bz, it's also not debug-specific; B2G opt takes > 300 seconds
# [21:37] <@bz> Also it gets corrupt scrollbar
# [21:37] <@bz> dholbert: huh
# [21:38] <@bz> dholbert: is it much slower hardware than android somehow?
# [21:38] <dholbert> which is why we have a requestLongerTimeout(2) there in the first place
# [21:38] <dholbert> I'm not sure
# [21:38] <dholbert> gwagner, have a minute?
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# [21:38] <@bz> So here's what I see in this log
# [21:38] <@bz> There is no obvious slowdown when changing property name
# [21:38] <@bz> so it's not that we spend a long time in the event loop
# [21:39] <@bz> But it's just being dog slow
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# [21:39] <@bz> Running at about 60 prop+value combinations per second
# [21:39] <@bz> well, sometimes there are skips too
# [21:39] <@bz> 00:32:02 INFO - 25859 INFO TEST-PASS | /tests/layout/style/test/test_extra_inherit_initial.html | expected inherit ignored before value in 'background-color: inherit hsl(240, 50%, 50%)'
# [21:39] <@bz> 00:32:04 INFO - 25860 INFO TEST-PASS | /tests/layout/style/test/test_extra_inherit_initial.html | expected initial ignored before value in 'background-color: initial hsl(240, 50%, 50%)'
# [21:40] <dholbert> bz, also: BTW, I tried switching to batches of 25 properties per executeSoon() call, and I went from ~39 seconds to ~38 seconds on my local browser
# [21:40] <RyanVM> jgriffin: any idea why this would be running so slow in teh emulator?
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# [21:40] <dholbert> bz, (confirming your "not spending a long time in event loop" point)
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# [21:40] <@bz> dholbert: yeah, ok
# [21:40] <dholbert> s/local browser/local debug build/
# [21:40] <@bz> I wonder....
# [21:40] <@bz> This is the only e10s setup we're running, right?
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# [21:41] <@bz> And these are all invalid, so they lead to CSS warnings being reported...
# [21:41] <RyanVM> emulator is e10s I believe, yes
# [21:41] <dholbert> bz, if you like, here's a log with the longer timeout, so the test actually runs to completion: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32779867&tree=Pine
# [21:41] <dholbert> bz, (and takes nearly 900 seconds)
# [21:41] <@bz> dholbert: what happens if you turn off reporting of CSS parse errors?
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# [21:41] <dholbert> bz, how do I suppress those?
# [21:42] <@bz> dholbert: I wonder whether we're managing to do blocking IPC for those or something
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# [21:42] <froydnj> don't our (desktop) tests suppress those automagically?
# [21:42] <@bz> 967 mSuppressErrors(false),
# [21:42] <@bz> In CSSParserImpl
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# [21:43] <dholbert> bz, per froydnj's point: I don't see any CSS parse errors in my terminal when running this mochitest
# [21:43] <@bz> seems like the simplest way
# [21:43] <dholbert> bz, (& does that mean they're already disabled [via a pref]?)
# [21:43] <@bz> Do you see them in your console?
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# [21:43] <dholbert> I'll try
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# [21:44] <@bz> "layout.css.report_errors"
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# [21:44] <dholbert> bz, I do see them in the error console
# [21:44] <@bz> line 128 -- pref("layout.css.report_errors", false);
# [21:45] <@bz> in android/app/mobile.js
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# [21:45] <@bz> dholbert: ok, so they're being reported
# [21:45] <dholbert> bz, I'll try suppressing them and see if that speeds things up (on desktop)
# [21:45] * @bz would be interested in that too
# [21:45] <@bz> So on b2g...
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# [21:45] <@bz> 71 SettingsListener.observe('debug.console.enabled', true, function(value) {
# [21:45] <@bz> 72 Services.prefs.setBoolPref('consoleservice.enabled', value);
# [21:45] <@bz> 73 Services.prefs.setBoolPref('layout.css.report_errors', value);
# [21:45] <@bz> 74 });
# [21:45] <@bz> Not sure what that means in practice
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# [21:47] <@bz> I mean _if_ that's it.
# [21:47] <dholbert> bz, nice -- on desktop, setting that pref seems to cut the runtime in half
# [21:47] <@bz> ok
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# [21:47] <@bz> So we should consider doing that anyway
# [21:47] <dholbert> (makes sense, given that the point of this test is to generate parse errors)
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# [21:47] <@bz> (for all the CSS tests, actually)
# [21:47] <dholbert> yeah
# [21:47] <@bz> Can we try that on b2g?
# [21:47] <@bz> Because it could be that the error reporting is extra-special-blocking-ipc-call-slow on b2g or something
# [21:48] <@bz> Which we should then fix no matter what we do with this test...
# [21:48] <@bz> Because real-world sites have tons of CSS errors
# [21:48] <mfinkle> dholbert, i remember disabling css error reporting for performance (on mobile)
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# [21:50] <@bz> mfinkle: it's still disabled there
# [21:50] <@bz> mfinkle: but not on b2g, unless it uses android/app/mobile.js
# [21:51] <RyanVM> I could also believe that in general, the emulators are dog-ass slow, so any issues are being exacerbated there
# [21:51] <RyanVM> especially if it's I/O related
# [21:51] <mfinkle> bz, it does not
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# [21:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/781816c1eefd - Ben Turner - Bug 957828 - Don't make stack copies of all IPC messages, r=bsmedberg.
# [21:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/356ce17c2c45 - Ben Turner - Bug 957828 - Move stack machinery to cpp file, r=bsmedberg.
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# [22:01] <bjacob> Waldo: froydnj: can you help me with this compile error, which i am getting as i am converting an enum to MFBT typed enum in a new directory, gfx/thebes:
# [22:01] <bjacob> /hack/mozilla-central/gfx/thebes/gfxTypes.h:41:1: error: elaborated-type-specifier for a scoped enum must not use the ‘class’ keyword [-Werror]
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# [22:01] <dholbert> bz, hmm, just kidding; disabling that pref didn't actually save any time (on desktop), though it might still save time on b2g
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# [22:02] <bjacob> Waldo: froydnj: here is my diff https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3984265
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# [22:03] <dholbert> bz, (my earlier local measurements were off; turns out half of the time it takes on my local machine is mochitest setup stuff. And my 'flip-pref-and-reload' experiment didn't include that time)
# [22:03] <@ehsan> bjacob: which compiler?
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# [22:03] <bjacob> ehsan: gcc 4.6 on ubuntu 64bit
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# [22:04] <@ehsan> hmm
# [22:04] <@ehsan> bjacob: try dropping the =0?
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# [22:04] <bjacob> ehsan: trying
# [22:04] <@ehsan> bjacob: does gcc 4.6 support enum classes?
# [22:04] <bjacob> ehsan: yes, and it works in other directories, with like syntax
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# [22:05] <@ehsan> hmm
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# [22:05] <bjacob> ehsan: =0 makes no difference
# [22:05] <@ehsan> bjacob: there is a "scoped" in that error message which is a bit bothering
# [22:05] <@ehsan> let me come over
# [22:05] <bjacob> ehsan: oh... let me see the context for including this header
# [22:05] <Waldo> hm
# [22:05] <@bz> dholbert: hmm, ok
# [22:06] <@bz> dholbert: would still be interested in what happens on b2g
# [22:06] <@bz> dholbert: because _something_ is being really broken there, and I'd like to understand why
# [22:06] <@bz> er, and what
# [22:06] <dholbert> yeah
# [22:06] <dholbert> bz, I'm gonna trigger a few try runs
# [22:06] <@bz> Awesome
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# [22:07] <Waldo> bjacob: #include <stdint.h>?
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# [22:08] <bjacob> Waldo: woohoo, twas that!
# [22:08] <bjacob> thanks
# [22:08] <Waldo> bjacob: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20459120/elaborated-type-specifier-for-a-scoped-enum-must-not-use-the-class-keyword :-)
# [22:08] <bjacob> Waldo: thanks
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# [22:09] <Waldo> bjacob: 'Next time, try clang++ ;) "error: unknown type name 'int8'; did you mean 'int'?"' ;-) from comments there
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# [22:10] <bjacob> Waldo: heh, thanks, ehsan came over and just convinced me to switch to clang
# [22:10] <@ehsan> Waldo: I just convinced him :D
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# [22:10] <@ehsan> someone should give gcc authors a pulitzer prize though
# [22:11] <@ehsan> how that message is supposed to make any sense is beyond me
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# [22:11] <bjacob> it is ... elaborate
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# [22:11] <@ehsan> and ... not helpful at all :D
# [22:11] <Ms2ger> It is resplendent
# [22:11] <@bz> You should read some of _our_ error messages....
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# [22:12] * @bz had an awesome one the other day
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# [22:12] <@bz> where I changed things so we could store a non-callable in an event handler
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# [22:12] <@bz> but didn't fix it yet so that we'd just skip calling it
# [22:12] <@ehsan> bz: touche!
# [22:13] <@bz> So trying to call it failed and reported an exception.
# [22:13] <@bz> Sane so far, right?
# [22:13] <@ehsan> totally
# [22:13] <@bz> So then on this testcase:
# [22:13] <@bz> window.onclick = {};
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# [22:13] <@bz> window.dispatchEvent(new Event("click"));
# [22:13] <@bz> Guess what the error console said?
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# [22:13] <Ms2ger> "onclick is null"
# [22:13] <@bz> "window.dispatchEvent is not a function"
# [22:13] <@ehsan> o_O
# [22:13] <Ms2ger> Nice
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# [22:14] <@bz> Because the JS engine said "oh, it's a not a function exception, I'll go sniff the bytecode glue on my stack to see what bytecode we're on and use that in the error report"
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# [22:14] <@bz> Note that there is no exception thrown to the caller here, btw
# [22:14] <Ms2ger> Mm, stack sniffing
# [22:14] <@bz> it's reported to the console before dispatchEvent returns
# [22:14] <@ehsan> another high five is in order then!
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# [22:14] <Ms2ger> ^5 SM
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# [22:18] <@bz> I mean, SM can do really neat tricks with that approach
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# [22:18] <@bz> function getMyNumber() { return 5; }
# [22:18] <@bz> [].map(window.getMyNumber());
# [22:19] <@bz> TypeError: window.getMyNumber(...) is not a function
# [22:19] <@bz> Pretty neat
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# [22:19] <@bz> function getMyNumber() { return { foo: 5 }; }
# [22:19] <@bz> [].map(window.getMyNumber().foo)
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# [22:19] <@bz> TypeError: window.getMyNumber(...).foo is not a function
# [22:19] <@bz> etc
# [22:20] <@bz> It just fails if someone does JS_CallFunctionValue from C++ on a non-callable while inside a call to a function, or something...
# [22:20] <Waldo> also cracktastic, in that it's just sort of trawling the stack for the value to decompile, and if you pass arguments or whatever just so, you can completely confuse it
# [22:21] <Waldo> there's no intelligence behind deciding what expression represented the value in question at all
# [22:21] <Waldo> just luck, that happens to be right often
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# [22:29] <arnaud_bienner> Does anyone know how "smart" is nsString? I'm wondering if it has some "copy on write" mechanism to avoid unnecessary copies (i.e. is "str2 = str1" costly).
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# [22:30] <arnaud_bienner> (I saw there is a "F_SHARED" flag, but I'm not sure when we benefit from it)
# [22:31] <tbsaunde> arnaud_bienner: depends on what type of string they are, but when possible coppying is avoided
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# [22:32] <arnaud_bienner> just two nsString, attribute of some class.
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# [22:34] <tbsaunde> arnaud_bienner: then it probably just refcounts a string buffer
# [22:34] <arnaud_bienner> ok thanks :)
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# [22:37] <gwagner> dholbert: hey
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# [22:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/516316e7e0b1 - Guillaume Abadie - bug 958491 - Fixes bug in WebGLContext::GetFramebufferAttachmentParameter(gl.FRAMEBUFFER_ATTACHMENT_COLOR_ENCODING) when sRGB extension is not enabled - r=jgilbert
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# [22:54] <dholbert> gwagner, hi
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# [22:56] <dholbert> gwagner, oh, sorry, was your 'hey' in response to my 'have a minute' a while back? never mind about that :)
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# [22:58] <gwagner> dholbert: ok :) and debug emulator builds are slow. There is no reason why they have to be so slow but profiling the debug build is not super high priority
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# [22:58] <dholbert> gwagner, gotcha. opt emulator builds are slow, too, it turns out; is that expected as well?
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# [22:59] <gwagner> dholbert: well it emulates arm on x86
# [22:59] <gwagner> so yeah it is slow
# [22:59] <dholbert> ok
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# [23:03] <@ehsan> bjacob: did that CFLAGS thing work?
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# [23:33] <jld> This stack trace might be less confusing if breakpad did the equivalent of `addr2line -i`.
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# [23:36] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: ping?
# [23:37] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: sup?
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# [23:38] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: of the four patches in ryan's most recent aurora push, which do you feel would cause that m5 orange?
# [23:38] <froydnj> asking philor to choose which to back out is a losing proposition; he'd just say "all of them"
# [23:39] <KWierso|sheriffduty> leaning towards 935773
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# [23:40] <philor> I'd be surprised
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# [23:40] <philor> my money's on shu
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# [23:40] <shu> what oranges?
# [23:40] <KWierso|sheriffduty> 130486 ERROR TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /tests/toolkit/components/alerts/test/test_multiple_alerts.html | Second alert should be opened in the same position. - got 1084, expected -76
# [23:41] <KWierso|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=32842361&tree=Mozilla-Aurora
# [23:41] <philor> windows-only alert window positioning, you can see why I'd think of you ;)
# [23:41] <shu> let's see which patch got uplifted... bug 951413 is the patch on top of blake's unsuppression patch
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# [23:42] <shu> philor: that's sweet
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# [23:43] <philor> but 935773 is a toolbarbutton, and without looking at the test I'd be surprised if anyone tested multiple alerts by opening a window with a social toolbarbutton in it
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# [23:43] <shu> KWierso|sheriffduty: i don't know that test, let me read it
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# [23:43] <shu> all my patch does is make sure windows are unsuppressed
# [23:43] <shu> and discard events
# [23:43] <shu> i don't think it even fires queued them
# [23:43] <philor> mstange isn't totally out of the running, I wouldn't put it past us to have a little SVG somewhere
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# [23:48] <shu> philor|away: KWierso|sheriffduty: that test doesn't seem to manually suppress events, nest event loops, use XHR, or modal windows
# [23:48] <shu> so i don't know how it would interact with event suppression/unsuppression
# [23:48] <KWierso|sheriffduty> out they all go, then :)
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