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  25. # [00:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b3c08e6fa790 - ffxbld - No bug, Automated HSTS preload list update from host bld-linux64-ec2-438 - a=hsts-update
  26. # [00:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61fd0f987cf2 - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-i to m-c
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  87. # [01:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f21e31b7f336 - Brian Smith - Bug 950858: Make cipher suite telemetry code less crash-prone, r=keeler
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  132. # [02:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8c1d3f35858 - Brian Smith - Bug 952874: Fix telemetry for RSA/DHE key sizes of 1025-1280 bits and fix misspelling, r=keeler
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  306. # [06:57] <invincible> Hello Everyone
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  308. # [06:59] <invincible> @ctalbert : I would like to contribute to the automation and tools for mozilla. My skills include python, C++ and javascript(moderate)
  309. # [06:59] <invincible> From where should I start up with
  310. # [06:59] <KWierso|afk> invincible: you might have better luck asking in #ateam
  311. # [07:00] <KWierso|afk> and probably better luck waiting for monday (for europe) or tuesday (for USA due to MLK day)
  312. # [07:00] <KWierso|afk> (saturday night on a long weekend probably isn't the best time to ask)
  313. # [07:00] <invincible> sure.
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  316. # [07:01] <KWierso|afk> invincible: you might also check out http://www.whatcanidoformozilla.org/
  317. # [07:02] <KWierso|afk> and https://wiki.mozilla.org/Auto-tools/New_Contributor
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  333. # [07:19] <malin8a> someone knows where can i find the manifest for browser xul files?
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  341. # [07:28] <briansmith> sorry, got disconnected
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  387. # [08:21] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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  390. # [08:23] <philor> bonsoir
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  393. # [08:26] <Ms2ger> Is it just me or is b2g debug m5 particularly craptastic?
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  397. # [08:27] <philor> the worst of a nonstellar lot, yes
  398. # [08:29] <Ms2ger> The other don't look that much worse than usual, do they?
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  527. # [12:12] <ttaubert> crap, I merged too late for nightly
  528. # [12:16] <Tomcat|afk> hey ttaubert do you need a specific thing in the nightlies
  529. # [12:16] <Tomcat|afk> if so you can retrigger nightlies
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  532. # [12:18] <Tomcat|afk> on this self-serve build api link in tbpl
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  535. # [12:18] <ttaubert> Tomcat|afk: yeah I know. I wanted to fix bug 961016 but I'm not sure if that justifies re-triggering nightlies
  536. # [12:20] <Tomcat|afk> oh i see
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  585. # [14:19] <ttaubert> smaug: ping
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  587. # [14:20] <@smaug> ttaubert: pong
  588. # [14:21] <ttaubert> smaug: you know a thing or two about our xul prototype cache, right? I'd want to CC you on a bug if so :)
  589. # [14:22] <@smaug> yes, I've hacked it few years ago
  590. # [14:22] <ttaubert> smaug: ok, thx. let me cc you then :)
  591. # [14:26] <@smaug> boo, link to gecko in github
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  593. # [14:27] <ttaubert> smaug: yeah sorry, hg shows hg@1 and I'm not very fond of using the CVS web interface, never used that
  594. # [14:28] <@smaug> just go from http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/
  595. # [14:28] <@smaug> http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/ has still the best blame we have
  596. # [14:28] <@smaug> but unfortunately for cvs only
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  600. # [14:30] <@smaug> ttaubert: so are we just perhaps trying to load something from startup cache in the main thread and then also in worker thread, and worker thread needs to wait until main thread is ready?
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  602. # [14:30] <ttaubert> smaug: hm. that sounds plausible
  603. # [14:31] <@smaug> I'd guess this isn't xul cache thing
  604. # [14:31] <@smaug> but startupcache
  605. # [14:32] <@smaug> which was added way later than xul cache
  606. # [14:32] <ttaubert> so OTOH, I timed the DeserializeOutOfLine() calls. we spend 1125ms on browser/content/places/browserPlacesViews.js
  607. # [14:32] <ttaubert> 7778ms on //browser/content/browser.js
  608. # [14:32] <@smaug> whhat
  609. # [14:32] <@smaug> in which cases?
  610. # [14:32] <ttaubert> on second startup
  611. # [14:32] <ttaubert> I should check my math
  612. # [14:32] <ttaubert> :)
  613. # [14:33] <ttaubert> 8s can't be true
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  615. # [14:34] <@smaug> would be rather slow startup
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  617. # [14:34] <ttaubert> yeah and it's not that slow
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  620. # [14:35] <@smaug> ttaubert: do we use startupcache for chrome worker scripts?
  621. # [14:36] <ttaubert> smaug: doesn't look like it. I never saw those file names floating around
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  623. # [14:37] <@smaug> but SessionWorker.js is probably in some cache
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  626. # [14:38] <@smaug> er, SessionWorker.js is run in a worker
  627. # [14:39] <ttaubert> ok it's 8ms for browser.js ;)
  628. # [14:40] <ttaubert> I can check how long we wait for the lock in the startup cache
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  632. # [14:43] <ttaubert> startup cache isn't available for everything else than the main thread
  633. # [14:43] <ttaubert> *other
  634. # [14:44] <ttaubert> there is an assertion, so um... no clue
  635. # [14:44] <@smaug> hm
  636. # [14:45] <ttaubert> so why could removing the DeserializeOutOfLine() call "fix" this?
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  638. # [14:47] <@smaug> ttaubert: so you want to back out brendan's patch? ;)
  639. # [14:48] <ttaubert> haha
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  645. # [14:53] <@smaug> ttaubert: where do we create the chrome worker
  646. # [14:54] <ttaubert> smaug: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/sessionstore/src/SessionFile.jsm
  647. # [14:54] <ttaubert> smaug: I'm measuring the time it takes for SessionFile.read() to complete. reading the file is almost instantaneous
  648. # [14:58] <@smaug> do we end up executing stuff in different order
  649. # [14:58] <@smaug> so that in case we load the script from cache, it is there earlier
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  651. # [14:58] <@smaug> and that script dispatches runnables to main event loop
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  653. # [14:59] <@smaug> er, no
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  659. # [15:11] <ttaubert> smaug: so without this line https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/xul/content/src/nsXULElement.cpp#2496 we're fast
  660. # [15:11] <ttaubert> might be some other code than then checks for mScriptObject maybe
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  662. # [15:12] <@smaug> that means disabling deserializing
  663. # [15:12] <@smaug> I still wonder if this is just some timing thing
  664. # [15:13] <@smaug> if we deserialize faster, we end up possibly running some scripts sooner
  665. # [15:13] <@smaug> and that could affect to main thread <->worker communication
  666. # [15:13] <ttaubert> yeah
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  668. # [15:15] <ttaubert> it "feels" like startup is a tad slower, like 400ms
  669. # [15:16] <ttaubert> before the first window comes up
  670. # [15:16] <ttaubert> not sure though
  671. # [15:16] <tad> hm?
  672. # [15:16] <tad> oh
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  674. # [15:16] <ttaubert> hah, sorry
  675. # [15:16] <tad> np :)
  676. # [15:16] <tad> Happens a lot
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  714. # [16:07] <reuben> http://i.imgur.com/ffCJMsj.gif :D
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  717. # [16:12] <mcsmurf> hah :D
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  773. # [17:30] <NeilAway> tad: just be glad np isn't around any more :-P
  774. # [17:31] <tad> NeilAway: haha
  775. # [17:31] <NeilAway> reuben: that needs to be named abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz.gif :-P
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  779. # [17:37] <reuben> :)
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  1066. # [20:02] <firebot> Check-in:
  1067. # [20:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/faade79c9165 - L. David Baron - Bug 945105 patch 1: Revert the changes to RestyleManager::ComputeStyleChangeFor from bug 898333, patch 2, since they cause skipping (in addition to the desired
  1068. # [20:02] <firebot> skipping) of continuations that do need restyling, in the case of directly restyling an element where continuations have different styles. r=heycam
  1069. # [20:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0bb87f9b1fae - L. David Baron - Bug 945105 patch 2: Convert RestyleManager::ComputeStyleChangeFor from while loops to for loops to make it easier to add continue statements to it. r=heycam
  1070. # [20:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/03bdbaabbfc2 - L. David Baron - Bug 945105 patch 3: Replace changes to ComputeStyleChangeFor with a check of GetPrevContinuationWithSameStyle to avoid the duplication in a way that still doesn't
  1071. # [20:03] <firebot> break direct restyling of an element whose continuations have different styles. r=heycam
  1072. # [20:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f26cb95f5a56 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 945105 patch 4: Add reftest. r=heycam
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  1182. # [21:43] <WG9s> So, how do I file regression bugs against No bug, Automated HSTS preload list update from host bld-linux64-ec2-438 - a=hsts-update ?
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  1184. # [21:43] <WG9s> THsi broke graphical output from awstats.
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  1187. # [21:45] <Gijs> WG9s: err, what makes you say that?
  1188. # [21:45] <WG9s> But, I have no idea how to file a bug, what to say it blocks or what component to file it against!
  1189. # [21:45] <WG9s> this change
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  1192. # [21:45] <Gijs> WG9s: I mean, how have you ascertained it was that particular change rather than anything else?
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  1194. # [21:45] <WG9s> hg bisect
  1195. # [21:46] <WG9s> this change
  1196. # [21:46] <WG9s> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b3c08e6fa790
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  1203. # [21:47] <WG9s> the the apis.google.com and possible the appengine.mozilla.mozilla.com part
  1204. # [21:47] <Gijs> it sounds like a bug in awstats.
  1205. # [21:47] <WG9s> but hg bisect identified this as the regressor.
  1206. # [21:47] <WG9s> I made thise changes
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  1208. # [21:48] <WG9s> IT made thes changes I menat
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  1210. # [21:48] <WG9s> meant
  1211. # [21:49] <Gijs> WG9s: so this updated the strict transport security list with the relevant domains. If awstats is using them over http instead of https, I would imagine that's why it's breaking (but that's a guess without looking into it in detail)
  1212. # [21:50] <WG9s> 1.9 -apis.google.com: did not receive HSTS header
  1213. # [21:50] <WG9s> 1.10 -appengine.google.com: did not receive HSTS header
  1214. # [21:50] <WG9s> 1.11 +apis.google.com: did not receive HSTS header (error ignored - included regardless)
  1215. # [21:50] <WG9s> 1.12 +appengine.google.com: did not receive HSTS header (error ignored - included regardless)
  1216. # [21:50] <WG9s> awstats using the google charts plugin
  1217. # [21:50] <WG9s> no longer includes any of the graphical results.
  1218. # [21:50] <WG9s> well i hcanged my awstats to using http so as not to have mixed content and it did not help at all.
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  1221. # [21:51] <WG9s> If what i h=neet to do is to update the awstats code to use https i can try that.
  1222. # [21:51] <Gijs> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Privacy/Features/HSTS_Preload_List
  1223. # [21:51] <evilpie> seems like this is more of a google or aws issue
  1224. # [21:51] <Gijs> https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2012/11/01/preloading-hsts/
  1225. # [21:51] <evilpie> google asked us to add it to the preload list
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  1241. # [22:03] <WG9s> but i stil have no answer as to what component to file this agaainst. it wokrs fine in other browsers.
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  1243. # [22:05] <WG9s> evilpie: so that now they can say it works in chrome but not in firefox????
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  1253. # [22:08] <evilpie> WG9s: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=947759
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  1283. # [22:42] <rnewman> anyone sheriffing today?
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  1285. # [22:45] <rnewman> nm
  1286. # [22:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b56b70d548a2 - Chris Kitching - Bug 961498: Prevent ICO decoder from exploding when faced with single-resource ICOs r=rnewman
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  1303. # [22:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ceb8969503e - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 958376 - |mach valgrind-test|: Add a --suppressions option. r=gps.
  1304. # [22:52] <NeilAway> firebot: seen mbrubeck
  1305. # [22:52] <firebot> mbrubeck was last seen 16 hours, 7 minutes and 7 seconds ago, saying 'They will eventually be at https://wiki.mozilla.org/GSoC' in #introduction.
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