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# Session Start: Wed Jan 22 00:00:00 2014
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# [00:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/053124f7a0e1 - Wes Kocher - Backed out 3 changesets (bug 947337) for build test errors
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# [00:01] <jimb> jld: Ah, right. It was on Solaris, though, righT?
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# [00:03] <jld> jimb: No; ESXi, which is its own OS.
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# [00:05] <jimb> jld: Oh, I see.
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# [00:07] <jhopkins|buildduty> glandium: try repo reset sounds less urgent now: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=962275#c2
# [00:09] <glandium> jhopkins|buildduty: yeah well, except i still killed try yesterday, and i still need to do those pushes
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# [00:09] <jhopkins|buildduty> glandium: can you afford to wait until Thursday?
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# [00:10] <jld> jimb: For extra confusion, it emulates a subset of the Linux syscall ABI, and the userland runs under that.
# [00:10] <glandium> jhopkins|buildduty: that's a question for taras
# [00:10] <jimb> jld: Everything emulates that eventually. :)
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# [00:10] <jimb> jld: I think that's why Rob Pike says that OS research is dead. :)
# [00:11] <Pike> I did not
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# [00:14] <dholbert> erm
# [00:14] <dholbert> Waldo,
# [00:14] <dholbert> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/diff/64d44d0d790c/js/src/ctypes/CTypes.cpp#l1.15
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# [00:14] * Waldo looks
# [00:14] <dholbert> Waldo, I think that ";l" wants to just be ";", yes?
# [00:14] <dholbert> causing build bustage on my inbound build
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# [00:15] <dholbert> locally
# [00:15] <Waldo> uh
# [00:15] <Waldo> yes :-(
# [00:15] <Waldo> fixing
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# [00:15] <dholbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, ^ should probably fix the red on Waldo's push
# [00:16] <KWierso|sheriffduty> dholbert, Waldo: thanks
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# [00:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83c53ed5f501 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 962285 - Make DeviceLightEvent.value unrestricted double; r=smaug
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# [00:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/49700610a9b7 - Jeff Walden - Followup fix to bug 948583, r=typo. :-(
# [00:18] <Waldo> done
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# [00:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/91ad8c446e55 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 31ef6f1090fd (bug 916350) for android reftest bustage on a CLOSED TREE
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# [00:34] <dietrich> jduell: are you the person i should talk to if cache2 dir is ~20gb?
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# [00:35] <jduell> dietrich: did no one tell you the new cache is experimental and doesn't do eviction yet? (it's the last bug we need to fix)
# [00:35] <dietrich> heheh
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# [00:36] <dietrich> jduell: is it on by default or did i turn it on and forgot?
# [00:36] <mayhemer> dietrich: how does it work by the way? :)
# [00:36] <jduell> dietrich: I think you turned it on--should be off by default
# [00:36] <jduell> mayhemer will remember the name of the pref that toggles it on/off
# [00:37] <dietrich> mayhemer: i don't know -- how can i evaluate if it's working well or not?
# [00:37] <jduell> Thanks for being a guinea pig! Sounds like it must have worked at least ok if you didn't notice things being broken
# [00:37] <mayhemer> dietrich: browser.cache.use_new_backend
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# [00:37] <mayhemer> dietrich: and the value should be '0'
# [00:37] <dietrich> this was a little freaky. https://www.dropbox.com/s/x8mkmlzrqwjky3s/Screenshot%202014-01-21%2015.37.42.png
# [00:37] <mayhemer> dietrich: does you browser slows down? does it crash? do pages load slowly as usualy?
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# [00:38] <dietrich> mayhemer: i have >1000 tabs, so most of those things are true a little bit all the time ;)
# [00:38] <mayhemer> dietrich: it counts nonsenses when cache2 is on
# [00:38] <mayhemer> dietrich: :D:D
# [00:38] <dietrich> i have seen a few crashes in the last month or so, where i wasn't seeing any for a very long time before that
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# [00:39] <mayhemer> dietrich: all reported?
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# [00:41] <dietrich> mayhemer: yep
# [00:42] <dietrich> mayhemer: what happens if delete that whole dir while firefox is running
# [00:42] <mayhemer> dietrich: then all should be tracked if having cache2 signatures
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# [00:43] <mayhemer> dietrich: last time I tried, it dodn't crash, but there is some missing (patches wait for r) functionality to make the platform work when it happens
# [00:43] <dietrich> mayhemer: there are a few ~1gb files in there. expected?
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# [00:43] <mayhemer> dietrich: you will probably see some blank pages or missing css files etc
# [00:43] <mayhemer> dietrich: yes, limits are missing at all (again, patches waiting for review)
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# [00:49] <dietrich> mayhemer: haha deleting nearly 1 million items
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# [00:49] <dietrich> 23gb on disk
# [00:49] <mayhemer> dietrich: nice :)
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# [00:54] <ejpbruel> khuey: i should be able to use file uris when creating an instance of Worker from a scratchpad in browser context, no?
# [00:56] <Gijs> Is there a way to add a JS callback to a node being constructed when the DOM is first loaded from the inputstream? Basically, called at the same time that a XBL constructor would normally be called if the node had one (and it was visible etc. requiring a XBL binding to be constructed) ?
# [00:56] <Gijs> I mean, of course I could write a mini-binding just for this purpose
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# [00:56] <Gijs> but a more direct way would be preferable...
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# [00:59] <jcranmer> I go to push and the tree is closed
# [00:59] <jcranmer> naturally
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# [00:59] <KWierso|sheriffduty> :)
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# [00:59] <NeilAway> Gijs: XUL or HTML?
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# [00:59] <Gijs> NeilAway: XUL.
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# [01:00] <NeilAway> Gijs: well, XBL constructors for XUL don't run until somewhere around DOMContentLoaded, unless you have buggy inline code that tries to access the DOM before overlays have finished loading
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# [01:01] <Gijs> NeilAway: hrm
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# [01:03] <mwu> is lldb suppose to be good?
# [01:04] * mwu brew installs gdb in the meantime
# [01:04] <heycam> mwu, it's ok. I've had the occasional hang that I've had to Ctrl+\
# [01:04] <heycam> mwu, the brew-installed gdb didn't work for me btw
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# [01:07] <Gijs> NeilAway: so is DOMContentLoaded not good enough and do you kind of need to wait for document.readyState == "complete"?
# [01:09] * Gijs likes how he gets 4 DOMContentLoaded notifications.
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# [01:09] <Gijs> 2 for the toplevel document, and 2 for some other document?
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# [01:10] <Gijs> for the latter two, document.readyState === "complete", but document.getElementById("foo") still fails, even though "foo" is actually in the document itself, not even in an overlay
# [01:10] <Gijs> wtf? :)
# [01:11] <Gijs> (I can't wait for onload because this code needs to run *before* onload)
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# [01:12] <@smaug> Gijs: are you sure you get two DOMContentLoaded for the top level doc?
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# [01:12] <Gijs> smaug: well, I added an event listener in browser.js, and the event listener logs e.target == document, and it logs true twice
# [01:12] <Gijs> unless, of course, the browser console is lying
# [01:12] <Gijs> which is totally possible
# [01:12] <Gijs> I forgot about that.
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# [01:15] <@smaug> odd
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# [01:19] <Gijs> waiting for readyState == "complete" from an onreadystatechange event also doesn't do it, though :\
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# [01:39] <KWierso|sheriffduty> dholbert: any ideas about that PGO red on inbound's tip?
# [01:39] <KWierso|sheriffduty> I want to blame waldo, but he's not around
# [01:39] <dholbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, me too
# [01:39] <dholbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, looking
# [01:40] <dholbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, the build error is quoting stuff from his changeset
# [01:40] <dholbert> "jsopcode.tbl:414:1: error: 'JSOP_MUTATEPROTO_LENGTH' was not declared in this scope"
# [01:41] <dholbert> and his changeset adds "OPDEF(JSOP_MUTATEPROTO, 194, "mutateproto",NULL, 1, 2, 1, JOF_BYTE)"
# [01:41] <dholbert> to jsopcode.tbl
# [01:41] <dholbert> ( https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/diff/3807c2bc06a2/js/src/jsopcode.tbl )
# [01:41] <NeilAway> Gijs: it's too late at night for me to remember which fires first
# [01:41] <KWierso|sheriffduty> dholbert: so all three of his commits from the two pushes need to come out?
# [01:42] <dholbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, I think only the middle one
# [01:42] <KWierso|sheriffduty> 3807c2bc06a2?
# [01:42] <dholbert> yup
# [01:42] <KWierso|sheriffduty> can do
# [01:42] <dholbert> that's the one that touches that .tbl file at least
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# [01:43] <KWierso|sheriffduty> hrm, his followup is from that same bug, though
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# [01:43] <dholbert> no
# [01:43] <dholbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, his first cset looks like it's an orthogonal change (at least, he thought it was standalone enough to push it as "no bug, r=trivial")
# [01:43] <dholbert> and the followup is for a typo in *that* changeset
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# [01:44] <dholbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, despite what he put in the commit message of the followup
# [01:44] <KWierso|sheriffduty> dholbert: meh, I think I'd rather be safe backing all three out and he can reland tomorrow :)
# [01:45] <KWierso|sheriffduty> than backout one now and make things potentially even brokener
# [01:45] <dholbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, sounds good
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# [01:46] <dholbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, thanks for the cleanup
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# [01:46] <KWierso|sheriffduty> no problem
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# [01:47] <dholbert> FWIW it's possible that the pgo bustage just requires a clobber; I just don't understand the change well enough to know
# [01:47] <dholbert> (and Waldo can determine that when re-landing)
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# [03:06] <KWierso> jcranmer: bustage?
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# [03:07] <jcranmer> I guess so?
# [03:07] <jcranmer> though that surprises me greatly
# [03:08] <jcranmer> KWierso: back me out
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# [03:08] <KWierso> jcranmer: can do
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# [03:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e057ecce0007 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 03bdec48d0ac (bug 450881) for Windows build bustage
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# [03:17] <@njn> does JS have something like C's __FILE__ and __LINE__ ?
# [03:18] <jcranmer> if you play around with Error objects, maybe?
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# [03:21] <reuben> yeah, new Error().{fileName,lineNumber} might be what you're looking for
# [03:21] <@njn> reuben: thanks
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# [03:32] <bz_dinner> erm
# [03:32] <bz_dinner> who knows something about the message manager?
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# [03:33] <@khuey> smaug
# [03:33] <@khuey> :P
# [03:33] <bz_dinner> 992 JS::Rooted<JSString*> originValue(cx, JS_InternString(cx, origin.get()));
# [03:33] <bz_dinner> Why is it doing that?
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# [03:33] <reuben> heycam++
# [03:33] <reuben> for lldb goodness
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# [03:33] <bz_dinner> That seems pretty broken to me...
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# [03:35] <@khuey> bz_dinner: the interning?
# [03:35] <bz_dinner> yes
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# [03:35] <bz> I mean, that pins the string in memory until the end of time
# [03:35] <@smaug> hmm
# [03:35] <bz> and I don't understand why it's needed here
# [03:35] <bz> JS_NewString would work just as well!
# [03:36] <@khuey> looks like it was added in http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fecda5f4a0df
# [03:36] <@smaug> boo, r=smaug
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# [03:39] <@smaug> bz: actually, pinning the string in the memory sounds ok to me
# [03:39] <bz> smaug: why?
# [03:39] <@smaug> in normal C++ stuff we'd use atom for this
# [03:40] <bz> smaug: yes, but atoms will go away if the refcount goes to 0
# [03:40] <bz> smaug: no?
# [03:40] <@smaug> static atoms
# [03:40] <@smaug> no
# [03:40] <bz> for the _origing_ we'd use a static atom?
# [03:40] <bz> er, origin
# [03:40] <bz> how could we do that?
# [03:40] <bz> I mean, this string is different for every site you visit....
# [03:40] <@smaug> er, silly me
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# [03:41] <@smaug> getting close to 5am
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# [03:41] <@smaug> I don't even try to change my rhythm before next week
# [03:42] <bz> Oh,right, you're one more hour over.
# [03:42] <bz> heh
# [03:42] <@njn> bz: canvases always use 32-bit RGBA data, right?
# [03:43] <@smaug> good that the stuff is only in aurora
# [03:43] <@smaug> not yet in beta
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# [03:46] <@smaug> hmm, does JSObjectBuilder::DefineProperty have the same issue
# [03:46] <@smaug> I wonder where that code is used
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# [03:49] <@smaug> bz: Bug 962393
# [03:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f97076de7eb0 - Luke Wagner - Bug 961318 - Tweak off-main-thread parsing heuristic to avoid delaying execution when an atoms-zone GC is in progress (r=billm)
# [03:50] <yeukhon> so they are proposing to add graphic rendering library to c++ stdllib??. http://isocpp.org/files/papers/N3888.pdf
# [03:50] <bz> smaug: thanks
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# [03:51] <bz> smaug: where tdo you see DefineProperty interning?
# [03:51] <bz> Oh, JS_InternStringN
# [03:51] <bz> hrm
# [03:52] <reuben> yeukhon: yes, and it's basically a C++-ified version of Cairo
# [03:52] * bz is not sure what calls that method
# [03:52] <bz> reuben: hrm
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# [03:55] <yeukhon> reuben: ah okay. i have only used the python version
# [03:55] <yeukhon> never knew it was in c
# [03:56] <reuben> I love that the paper links to https://xkcd.com/927/ when describing the alternative of creating a new API
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# [03:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a171743fb50e - Anthony Jones - Bug 952379 - Add a clang-format-diff helper to mach; r=gps
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# [04:03] <yeukhon> haha
# [04:03] <bz> hrm
# [04:03] <bz> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=6f1aba16eee3
# [04:04] <bz> What gives?
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# [04:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ad626723a359 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 961204. Remove the my_context bits from nsWindowSH::NewResolve and just use the passed-in cx for everything. r=bholley
# [04:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38aea88101ba - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 961208 part 2. Change the WebIDL DoNewResolve hook signature to take a JSPropertyDescriptor. r=bholley
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# [04:07] <firebot> object. r=bholley
# [04:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6bff1bb5e277 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 961204 followup to address review comment. r=bholley
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# [04:08] <@smaug> when should one use JS_NewStringCopyZ and when JS_NewStringCopyN
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# [04:08] <@smaug> ah, the other needs length
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# [04:16] <bz> smaug: N is length, Z is null-terminated
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# [04:20] <@smaug> bz: that Z is somewhat understandable
# [04:20] <@smaug> but N less
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# [04:22] <@njn> shame that this.caller.name isn't usable any more
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# [04:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28f8657d36e9 - Benoit Girard - Bug 950488 - Overhaul APZ handling of overflow:hidden. r=botond
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# [04:31] <@njn> why is that taking up malloc-heap space
# [04:31] <@njn> why isn't it just static
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# [06:00] <bz> no try, sadfaces
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# [06:01] <philor> NO DO!
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# [06:07] <@njn> bz: humans are smarter than computers, definitely
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# [06:15] <ewong> hi. I'm not sure if this is layout/ code, but where in the code base is the code for "selecting text"?
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# [06:24] <heycam> ewong, start looking from nsFrame::HandleEvent
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# [07:13] <ewong> heycam thanks!
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# [07:27] <ewong> in CPP, to print out something after http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/layout/generic/nsFrame.cpp#2517, is it |printf("testing\n");|
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# [07:29] <heycam> ewong, yes that'll work
# [07:29] <ewong> heycam thanks again!
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# [07:29] <heycam> where would I be wihout POD
# [07:30] <heycam> (printf oriented debugging)
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# [07:30] <ewong> yeah. so that'd print out to the console?
# [07:30] <ewong> oh wait. I need debugging compiled in, right?
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# [16:43] <Gijs> so... do sibling selectors not work in XBL? :(
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# [16:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c4a84171a0e2 - Dan Glastonbury - Bug 879663 - Check for GL Context validity in Pause()/Resume(). r=bjacob
# [16:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4488b21a7d59 - William Lachance - Bug 961874 - Python client should delete marionette session in cleanup(). r=mdas
# [16:45] <bz> Gijs: define "work in XBL"?
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# [16:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bbebc7b81f0a - Sylvestre Ledru - Bug 781552 - Turn on -Werror=int-to-pointer-cast globally. r=ted
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# [16:45] <bz> Gijs: selectors match on the DOM, not the flattened tree, if that's what you're asking about
# [16:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a4dc9a0f81ed - Romain Perier - Bug 956051 - Inline str_replace with string, string as arguments. r=nbp, r=jandem
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# [16:46] <Gijs> bz: I have a XBL binding with three anonymous kids defined in the binding's content, with the last two having class="a" and class="b"
# [16:46] <Gijs> bz: I'm trying to use #idofnodewithbinding > .a + .b
# [16:46] <Gijs> it doesn't work
# [16:46] <Gijs> (sorry, actually, just two kids, preceded by a <children/>)
# [16:47] <Gijs> (point remains)
# [16:47] <bz> Gijs: hmm.... one sec
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# [16:47] <froydnj> yay int-pointer-cast warnings!
# [16:47] <Gijs> the only reason I'm using the sibling at all is because while a has allowevents="true", b doesn't, and so I can't selector for #foo > .b:hover
# [16:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/77d12c62e7ed - Nathan Froyd - Bug 962600 - don't spam error messages about DOM storage failing to create keys; r=bz
# [16:48] <Gijs> so I end up with #foo:hover > .a:not(hover) + .b
# [16:48] <Gijs> which is ugly as hell
# [16:48] <Gijs> but I thought would work
# [16:48] <Gijs> :(
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# [16:48] <bz> Gijs: just to check, where is the rule?
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# [16:49] <Gijs> bz: not sure what you mean... I'm still writing the patch, and the code ends up in browser/skin/customizableui/panelUIOverlay.css
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# [16:49] <Gijs> the binding is a toolbarbutton[type="menu-button"]
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# [16:49] <bz> Is the rule in a stylesheet loaded by the document your #foo is in?
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# [16:50] <Gijs> yes
# [16:50] <bz> Or is it in a stylesheet imported by the binding?
# [16:50] <bz> ok
# [16:50] <Gijs> ahhh, right, I forgot about those. Good point :)
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# [16:51] * bz is testing, but it's not working...
# [16:52] <jhopkins|buildduty> is anyone experiencing long delays in `hg push` to try?
# [16:52] <jhopkins|buildduty> (not implying that i am)
# [16:52] <Gijs> bz: I'm glad I'm not crazy, but it's sad that it doesn't work...
# [16:53] <bz> no, no
# [16:53] <bz> I don't mean your thing
# [16:53] <bz> I mean xbl period, so far
# [16:53] <bz> for me. ;)
# [16:53] * bz is trying to figure out why it's not working
# [16:53] <Gijs> ah, that's always nice... :)
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# [16:53] <bz> Like the binding is not being applied
# [16:53] <Ms2ger> jhopkins|buildduty, somewhat, this morning
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# [16:54] <jhopkins|buildduty> hwine: ^ is that what you wanted to know in your needinfo to me? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=962275#c6
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# [16:56] <bz> Gijs: Does this look sane? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4073512
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# [16:57] <Gijs> bz: seems so, yes
# [16:57] <Gijs> still not working?
# [16:58] <Gijs> bz: the only thing I can think of is that most bindings I've seen extend base bindings, but that shouldn't make a difference, I think?
# [16:58] <bz> Oh
# [16:58] <bz> I know why
# [16:58] <bz> because we disable xbl by defaul
# [16:58] <bz> er, default
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# [16:58] <Gijs> oh, yeah
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# [16:59] <mstange> bz: dom.allow_XUL_XBL_for_file?
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# [17:00] <froydnj> mcmerge is supposed to auto-assign bugs?
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# [17:00] <bz> here we go
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# [17:01] <Ms2ger> froydnj, yes
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# [17:01] <Ms2ger> Is hgpvt.mozilla.org what security-central was going to be on?
# [17:02] <froydnj> hm, it does not auto-assign bugs for me =/
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# [17:02] <Ms2ger> Hmm
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# [17:02] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, ^
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# [17:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: beats me
# [17:03] <bz> Gijs: Oh, hmm
# [17:03] <Gijs> bz: am I not crazy?
# [17:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: if it's in JS, I think thta's a known issue
# [17:03] <Ms2ger> Gijs, only a little? :)
# [17:03] <bz> Gijs: no, you're not, and the reason I was thinking it wouldn't work is not it
# [17:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> has to do with the default owner being different than anywhere else
# [17:03] <bz> Gijs: looking into why it's not working
# [17:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> IIRC, we tried to fix that once and had other issues
# [17:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and nobody ever got back to it
# [17:04] <Gijs> Ms2ger: waiting for you to say that :)
# [17:04] <Ms2ger> :D
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# [17:04] <bz> Gijs: it's because '+' and '~' matching uses indexof
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# [17:05] <bz> Gijs: we should probably just fix it to walk the prevsibling chain
# [17:05] <bz> Gijs: want a patch?
# [17:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/40cae2bda944 - Andy Wingo - Bug 962484 - Fix script XDR bug after bug 916612 r=luke
# [17:05] <Gijs> bz: as long as this makes 29, I guess so! :)
# [17:05] <bz> Gijs: one sec
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# [17:05] <Gijs> bz: what kind of test would it be?
# [17:06] <Gijs> bz: simple thing might be just an empty image for a reftest, and display: none the text in .b ? :)
# [17:06] <bz> reftest might work
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# [17:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jib: according to #it, phonebook should be working again
# [17:07] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: none of the ~10 bugs I've mcmerged over the past two days have been auto-assigned, afaict
# [17:07] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: and maybe one or two of those were in JS, the others were elsewhere
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# [17:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: hrm, dunno
# [17:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> maybe a bugzilla change
# [17:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> file a bug?
# [17:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> though it may only do it on m-c landing too
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# [17:10] <mjrosenb> ok, so... build failure of the day
# [17:10] <mjrosenb> ../../../../../dist/system_wrappers/a.out.h:3:24: fatal error: a.out.h: No such file or directory #include_next <a.out.h>
# [17:10] <jryans> are the latest nightlies super slow to open / close tabs for anyone else?
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# [17:13] <mjrosenb> anyone know why this is happening (32 bit linux debug build)
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# [17:13] <tbsaunde> froydnj: but can you authenticate that's what he meant to say? ;)
# [17:14] <froydnj> mjrosenb: what does "find /usr/include -name a.out.h" say?
# [17:14] <bz> Gijs: the big question will be reviews...
# [17:14] <bz> Gijs: is there a bug filed?
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# [17:14] <froydnj> tbsaunde: maybe it was andreas posting as brendan :)
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# [17:16] <Gijs> bz: not yet, but I can do that
# [17:16] <paul> We have written a C++ function that track event loop lags (per process). We want to call this C++ function from JS. So I exposed this function in nsIDocShell.idl. But it doesn't feel right: docshell is per window, but this function operates at the process level (we turn event loop lag tracking on and off for one process).
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# [17:17] <Gijs> bz: CSS Parsing or DOM?
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# [17:17] <paul> do we have some sort of nsIProcessUtils.idl (like we have DOMWindowUtils.idl)
# [17:17] <mjrosenb> froydnj: wtf, there are a bunch of entries
# [17:17] <mjrosenb> including /usr/include/linux/a.out.h and /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/asm/a.out.h
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# [17:18] <NeilAway> paul: sounds like you want to be your own service
# [17:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: also, I'd love if you nominated those browser-element patches for uplift as far as you're comfortable with them going
# [17:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> since it obviously affects pretty much anything we care about
# [17:18] <paul> NeilAway: maybe… but just for 2 JS functions that call one line of C++, sounds overkill
# [17:19] <NeilAway> paul: ctypes?
# [17:19] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Got a sec?
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# [17:20] <paul> NeilAway: I'm not sure that would pass a review :)
# [17:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: sure
# [17:20] <paul> NeilAway: do we already do that?
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# [17:21] <NeilAway> paul: OS.File uses ctypes, or did you mean something else?
# [17:21] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: so we apparently run xpcshell tests without jits
# [17:21] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: just interp
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# [17:21] <@ehsan> BenWa: do you know why the profiler add-on tries to use arm-eabi-addr2line which is not part of the NDK, instead of arm-linux-androideabi-addr2line which is?
# [17:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: hrm, I remember writing the "use JM+TI for xpcshell" bug way back in the day
# [17:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but that code's changed a lot since then
# [17:22] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah, that's why I was pinging you...
# [17:22] <BenWa> ehsan: because thats the old name
# [17:22] <BenWa> ehsan: patches accepted
# [17:22] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I have a patch to turn on baseline unconditionally in xpcshell, fwiw
# [17:22] <mjrosenb> froydnj: so, it sounds like my include paths are wrong?
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# [17:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: that sounds like a very good plan
# [17:22] <mjrosenb> or I'm missing a header (although I can't imagine which one it is)
# [17:22] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: the observer ones?
# [17:22] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: paul stuff it on nsIXULRunTime or one of the app shell things?
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# [17:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: yeah
# [17:23] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I wish xpcshell errored out on unrecognized command-line options. :(
# [17:23] <tbsaunde> don't tell me we don't have a somewhat appropriate xpidl umpster ;)
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# [17:23] <froydnj> mjrosenb: dunno, those sound like what I have on my system. I can't really cross-compile for x86 linux, though, so I can't say what the problem is
# [17:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: oh, so it's trying to but the flags are wrong? Ouch
# [17:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and yes, something printed to the log at least would be good
# [17:23] <froydnj> mjrosenb: you might try seeing what the GCC invocation thinks its include paths are supposed to be with -v
# [17:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ted ^
# [17:23] * mjrosenb tries
# [17:23] <mjrosenb> /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu; sudo ln -s /usr/include/linux/a.out.h .
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# [17:24] <@ted> RyanVM|sheriffduty: nm?
# [17:24] <@ted> hm?
# [17:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ted: see bz's comments above about xpcshell
# [17:25] <mjrosenb> froydnj: that seems to have fixed it
# [17:25] * mjrosenb should probably not litter his include path with symlinks, but...
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# [17:25] <froydnj> mjrosenb: hope that doesn't bite you later!
# [17:25] <mjrosenb> I've always found it silly that architecture independent include files are namespaced like that.
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# [17:25] <mjrosenb> /home/mjrosenb/src/central/central/dom/plugins/test/testplugin/./nptest_gtk2.cpp:767: error: undefined reference to 'gdk_display'
# [17:25] <mjrosenb> ugh.
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# [17:26] <bz> ted: we're passing -m to xpcshell tests
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# [17:26] <bz> ted: but as of http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1add7f1eeb40 it ignores that option
# [17:26] <bz> ted: silently
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# [17:27] <Ms2ger> Heh, reviews
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# [17:28] <Gijs> bz: still waiting if I should file that bug (and where) or if you're doing it :)
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# [17:28] <@ehsan> BenWa: can you please merge this and make a new version of the addon? https://github.com/bgirard/Gecko-Profiler-Addon/pull/72
# [17:28] <@ehsan> BenWa: I'll fix the MDN page
# [17:29] <jcranmer> froydnj: ping
# [17:29] <froydnj> jcranmer: pong
# [17:29] <bz> Gijs: oh, sorry
# [17:29] <bz> Gijs: I can file, I guess
# [17:29] <jcranmer> froydnj: what's the best allocator to use within xpcom?
# [17:29] <jcranmer> nsMemory, NS_Alloc, plain malloc?
# [17:29] <@ted> bz: :-/
# [17:30] <Gijs> bz: awesome. Thanks a lot! :)
# [17:30] <jcranmer> we have way too many allocators.........
# [17:30] <bz> jcranmer: sbrk
# [17:31] <froydnj> jcranmer: I always thought malloc was just fine, but apparently not, judging by your patch backout
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# [17:31] <froydnj> bsmedberg: do you have insight here ^?
# [17:31] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: ^^^ if you can weigh in here too?
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# [17:31] <jcranmer> we need to do a better job of pruning our deprecated code
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# [17:32] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, moz_xmalloc
# [17:32] <@bsmedberg> don't use nsMemory
# [17:32] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: not if you want it to compile on Windows or B2G
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# [17:32] <@bsmedberg> in general, malloc or moz_xmalloc is fine
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# [17:32] <froydnj> bsmedberg: what is nsMemory for, anyway?
# [17:32] <@bsmedberg> that is, if you're within libxul
# [17:32] <@bsmedberg> froydnj: it's an old name for "the XPCOM allocator"
# [17:33] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: this is nsCOMArray.cpp
# [17:33] <@bsmedberg> NS_Alloc is the new name for the same thing
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# [17:33] <jcranmer> which gets statically linked to something outside of libxul at one point IIRC
# [17:33] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: xpcom/glue is indeed difficult
# [17:33] <jcranmer> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=33363925&tree=Mozilla-Inbound#error0
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# [17:33] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: do you want it to be fallible or infallible?
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# [17:34] <jcranmer> infallible works better for the moment
# [17:34] <jcranmer> (this is adding nsCOMArray.Forget()
# [17:34] <@bsmedberg> use NS_Alloc
# [17:35] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: well also, you need to be aware of potential allocator mismatch
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# [17:35] <@bsmedberg> outside of libxul, NS_Alloc is not matched by free()
# [17:35] <bz> Gijs: 962628
# [17:35] <@bsmedberg> so it needs to be freed with NS_Free
# [17:35] <jcranmer> NS_Alloc uses moz_* internally, though, does it not?
# [17:35] <jcranmer> or is moz_* not externally bound to libxul?
# [17:35] <@bsmedberg> yes
# [17:35] <@bsmedberg> but moz_ is not availalbe in some forms of the glue
# [17:36] <Gijs> bz: awesome, thanks!
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# [17:37] <jcranmer> we need a saner allocator story
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# [17:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ef34179196f5 - Richard Newman - Merge m-c to s-c, certainly nothing to do with Australis.
# [17:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/86d43ec20c70 - Richard Newman - Bug 962320 - User per-profile prefs for FxA, and store token server in account object. r=nalexander
# [17:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1e869c118e0a - Richard Newman - Bug 962299 - Follow-up: safety improvements and fixes. r=trivial
# [17:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2cf3d715f52f - Richard Newman - Bug 962299 - Bundle account data into a single userdata field and add profile tracking. r=nalexander
# [17:39] <bz> jcranmer: We could take the JS approach
# [17:39] <bz> jcranmer: allocate-by-guess
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# [17:41] <jcranmer> maybe we should actually file bugs on removing nsCRT and nsMemory
# [17:41] <jcranmer> ooh, ooh, here's an idea
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# [17:41] <jcranmer> one day a release cycle, we refuse to accept any patches that aren't related to cleanup of old, deprecated APIs
# [17:42] <Ms2ger> s/day a//
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# [17:43] <froydnj> I vote the cycle right before ESRs
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# [17:44] <WeirdAl> hm, then I'd really better hurry up with my porting of xulrunner stub to firefox :|
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# [17:45] <BenWa> Cwiiis: if you're arround in a few mins we should meet re: tiling on b2g
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# [17:45] <bz> jcranmer: you mean we pretend like the tree is closed?
# [17:45] <bz> jcranmer: how is that different from a normal day? ;)
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# [17:45] <jcranmer> bz: it's not closed to patches that do cleanup :-P
# [17:46] <jcranmer> bz: although you just gave me another idea
# [17:46] <jcranmer> whenever we close the tree, we refuse to reopen it until someone lands a cleanup patch
# [17:47] <till> that's going to be well-liked ...
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# [17:47] <Ms2ger> I'm not sure there's enough cleanup to be done for that policy
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# [17:47] <froydnj> on the plus side, maybe we'd close the tree less
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# [17:48] <Ms2ger> On the negative side, we'd just pile bustage upon bustage
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# [17:49] <bz> Please to define "cleanup"
# [17:50] <Ms2ger> Anything that doesn't have tests
# [17:50] <jcranmer> anything that removes a function and/or class without adding a new one
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# [17:51] <bz> That's not a good definition.
# [17:51] <bz> imo
# [17:51] <bz> anyway
# [17:51] <jcranmer> anything that removes a function and/or class in xpcom without adding a new one :-P
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# [17:56] <@Cwiiis> BenWa: hey, want to meet now?
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# [18:00] <BenWa> Cwiiis: yes
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# [18:01] <@Cwiiis> BenWa: ok, just finding a room
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# [18:02] <BenWa> Cwiiis: skype or vidyo, pick your poison
# [18:03] <bz> skypyo?
# [18:03] <bz> Or vipe
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# [18:03] <@smaug> all of those work equally well
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# [18:03] <@Cwiiis> BenWa: I'm easy. Let's use vidyo, it tends to perform marginally better for video conferences for me...
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# [18:04] <BenWa> Room 335 (others who want to listen on Tiling conversation feel free to drop in, we are an open project after all :))
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# [18:05] <Ms2ger> BenWa, and how do you think non-employees can join room 335? :)
# [18:06] <BenWa> Ohh I forgot about that :(
# [18:06] <BenWa> Well if others want to join in well switch client I promise
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# [18:07] <bz> ehsan: ping
# [18:07] <@ehsan> bz: hi
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# [18:08] <bz> <evilpie> mccr8|afk: you ask to many questions!
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# [18:08] <bz> er...
# [18:08] <bz> ehsan: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21288726/web-audio-playing-back-in-chrome-but-not-firefox
# [18:09] <bz> ehsan: anything jump out at you there?
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# [18:09] <BenWa> Cwiiis: file:///Users/bgirard/ben/sps/cleopatra/index.html#report=4040dcfaa64cd30aa84031d358c6ec17f1c28c53
# [18:09] <BenWa> Cwiiis: file:///Users/bgirard/ben/sps/cleopatra/index.html#report=4040dcfaa64cd30aa84031d358c6ec17f1c28c53
# [18:09] <BenWa> Cwiiis: http://people.mozilla.org/~bgirard/cleopatra/#report=4040dcfaa64cd30aa84031d358c6ec17f1c28c53
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# [18:10] <@ehsan> bz: looking
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# [18:12] <bz> ehsan: Thanks!
# [18:12] <@ehsan> bz: I have an idea what's happening there, let me comment there
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# [18:14] <@ehsan> bz: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21288726/web-audio-playing-back-in-chrome-but-not-firefox/21289583#21289583
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# [18:15] <bz> ehsan: Fun.
# [18:15] <@ehsan> bz: I suspect this is the array neutering stuff :/
# [18:15] <@ehsan> unfortunately we can't really throw there :(
# [18:16] <Waldo> why does chrome "work" on it?
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# [18:17] <@ehsan> Waldo: because they violate the spec by allowing multiple threads access the same data (read-write!)
# [18:17] <Waldo> la la la
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# [18:18] <Waldo> this must have been what sstangl was referring to when talking about MT hackarounds in other browsers :-)
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# [18:27] <NeilAway> does transform: translate(0, 0); have any side-effects or is it benign?
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# [18:32] <bz> ehsan: so why does the order matter there?
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# [18:36] * NeilAway thought that transform possibly creates a new layer, or something?
# [18:36] <Waldo> NeilAway: I think there are effects wrt overflow, yeah
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# [18:42] <viknesh> do any one know what this error means http://pastebin.com/KMpunWjs ?
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# [18:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jgilbert: ping
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# [18:43] <bz> viknesh: You used a &foo; that you didn't define
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# [18:44] <bz> hmm
# [18:44] <bz> so is the try reset thurs, or jan 22?
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# [18:46] <bz> ok
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# [18:47] <mbrubeck> viknesh: Are you running a localized build? Your locale might be missing a translation for the &spellNoSuggestions.label; entity.
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# [18:48] <Pike> shouldn't happen on a build of ours
# [18:48] <Pike> also, it'd likely have a translated message
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# [18:48] <viknesh> mbrubeck: what do u mean by localized build
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# [18:49] <mbrubeck> viknesh: A build translated into a language other than English (en-US).
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# [18:49] <viknesh> mbrubeck: nope ,i use english
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# [18:51] <mbrubeck> viknesh: The error message is pointing to this XML: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser-context.inc#7
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# [18:51] <mbrubeck> ...which uses a string defined in this DTD: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/locales/en-US/chrome/global/textcontext.dtd#24
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# [18:52] <mbrubeck> (In localized builds, a different DTD file would be used.)
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# [18:58] <viknesh> mbrubeck: build gave this error http://pastebin.com/fnw0jQq7
# [19:00] <mbrubeck> viknesh: So to get a guaranteed-working build, you will need to run "./mach clobber" before building. Or run "./mach build" which will do the clobber automatically before building. This will start a new build from scratch, which will take longer than an incremental build...
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# [19:01] <viknesh> mbrubeck: i did ./mach build . It gave this error
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# [19:03] <mbrubeck> viknesh: Oh, right -- I forgot automatic clobbering is not enabled by default.
# [19:03] <mbrubeck> "./mach clobber && ./mach build"
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# [19:03] <mbrubeck> If you want it to happen automatically, you can add "mk_add_options AUTOCLOBBER=1" to your mozconfig.
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# [19:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db641fd01a48 - Luke Wagner - Bug 916564 - Expand source notes to hold 31-bit offsets (r=jorendorff)
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# [19:15] <@ehsan> bz: because we neuter the underlying typed array and send it to the MSG thread when you assign to buffer
# [19:15] <@ehsan> bz: er, to AudioBufferSourceNode.buffer
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# [19:17] <viknesh> Ms2ger: how many minutes would it take for the build
# [19:18] <Ms2ger> Depends on hardware
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# [19:18] <padenot> ehsan, bz, this is now specced, and blink/webkit are not spec compliant
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# [19:19] <Ms2ger> padenot, and will that change anything?
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# [19:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4faf6493c9ea - Ted Mielczarek - Bug 927355 - Print fractional milliseconds in event tracer samples. r=bsmedberg
# [19:20] <padenot> Ms2ger: well, they could have better performances if they respected the spec, I think
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# [19:21] <bz> ehsan: I see
# [19:21] <padenot> Ms2ger: also, their Web Audio spec person just replied to the SO question saying that this code won't work in blink in the future
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# [19:21] <padenot> like, a second ago
# [19:21] <Ms2ger> Heh
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# [19:25] <@bsmedberg> bbondy: does https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=941124#c11 make sense?
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# [19:28] <bbondy> bsmedberg: so when we load in the prefs though, from prefs.js, from within metro. we don't want those to be found from metro (unless they're on the white list)
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# [19:28] <@bsmedberg> bbondy: sure...
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# [19:29] <@bsmedberg> bbondy: the proposal is that we still load them as normal
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# [19:30] <bbondy> ok I'll try that, I can't think of why it won't work that way off the top of my head but I might be not thinking about something right now
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# [19:30] <bbondy> thx for the feedback on it
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# [19:31] <bbondy> bsmedberg: something that comes to mind actually is that we do want the default prefs to be found on lookups
# [19:31] <bbondy> just not the user prefs
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# [19:31] <bbondy> in the model you're suggesting I think that we would try to do a lookup and see no match, unless we double added the defaults with a _metro_ prefix
# [19:32] <@bsmedberg> hrm
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# [19:33] <Waldo> padenot, ehsan, bz: do we have dev evangelists or something who can monitor stackoverflow for interesting Firefox-specific questions? seems like we should have people actually tasked to look over that stuff if we're actively sponsoring tags on stackoverflow now
# [19:33] <bbondy> bsmedberg: I think that was my main motivation for storing the metro+user prefs alongside the hash entry for the desktop default pref
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# [19:34] <@ehsan> Waldo: iirc Robert Nyman et al have talked about it
# [19:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db88c6a02346 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 947337 - Ensure the transform of input to Gecko space accounts for inflight paint requests. r=botond
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# [19:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6586e4aa566b - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 947337 - Update APZC tests to exercise the newly introduced transform. r=botond
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# [19:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d85b756d350b - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 947337 - Track the last metrics actually sent to Gecko after coming out of the throttler. r=botond
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# [19:40] <nemo> Say. um... I'm a bit disturbed by one bit of minimalism in Firefox these days.
# [19:40] <nemo> Whatever happened to the clear blue/green encryption indicators?
# [19:41] <bz> You mean the lock icon next to the url?
# [19:41] <viknesh> Ms2ger: Still it is building . For me usually wont take this much
# [19:41] <nemo> I know there's that bit of grey there
# [19:41] <nemo> bz: but it looks identical regardless of the cert
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# [19:41] <dholbert> nemo, there's still green "paypal" indicator at left end of urlbar if I go to https://www.paypal.com/ (nightly)
# [19:41] <bz> It's green if you have the whatchamacallit cert
# [19:41] <nemo> ah.
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# [19:41] <nemo> it's grey for amazon.com, and for the self-signed cert I use at home
# [19:41] <nemo> ofc I'm also used to a site icon being there
# [19:42] <bz> EV
# [19:42] <viknesh> !seen Ms2ger
# [19:42] <firebot> ms2ger was last seen 2 minutes and 5 seconds ago, saying 'Eh, sf :)' in #content.
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# [19:42] <bz> amazon does not have an EV cert
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# [19:43] <bz> Banks tend to
# [19:43] <bz> MOzilla does.
# [19:43] <nemo> bz: fine, but I was used to my home cheapo personally-accepted cacert displaying totally different from sites that bought a cert
# [19:43] <bz> nemo: huh
# [19:43] <bz> nemo: I dunno!
# [19:43] <bz> nemo: Arguably, it shouldn't. ;)
# [19:43] <nemo> bleah
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# [19:43] <nemo> well. entire cert system is broken anyway, soooo
# [19:43] * bz wonders since when we have an EV cert
# [19:43] <dholbert> bz, can I sanity-check something with you, before emailing www-style?
# [19:43] <bz> dholbert: sure thing
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# [19:44] <dholbert> bz, so the flexbox spec currently says that we should only wrap " each contiguous run of text that is directly contained inside a flex container" with an anonymous flex item
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# [19:44] <dholbert> bz, we (and everyone else) seem to treat that as including
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# [19:44] <dholbert> so abc def all gets wrapped in a single anonymous flex item
# [19:45] <dholbert> bz, should the spec be clarified to mention or whatever category of things it's in?
# [19:45] <bz> What happens if you have "foobarbaz" ?
# [19:45] <dholbert> bz, (it seems to me it's not included in "contiguous run of text")
# [19:45] <dholbert> bz, span gets its display type promoted to "block"
# [19:45] <dholbert> bz, and then forms its own flex item
# [19:45] <bz> I see
# [19:45] <dholbert> and foo and baz individually get anonymous flex items
# [19:45] <bz> What about foo<img>bar ?
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# [19:45] <dholbert> bz, same thing
# [19:45] <bz> Again, 3 flex items?
# [19:46] <jcranmer> wtf?
# [19:46] <dholbert> bz, that's what should happen, at least. pretty sure it's what does happen
# [19:46] <bz> Then you need something special about in the spec, yeah
# [19:46] <bz> Lemme look something up
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# [19:46] <jcranmer> NS_Alloc and NS_Free still link error in nsCOMArray?
# [19:46] <jcranmer> #!@$!@#!@#ing windows
# [19:46] <dholbert> bz, thanks
# [19:47] <bz> So the HTML spec specified br like so:
# [19:47] <bz> br { content: '\A'; white-space: pre; }
# [19:47] <bz> Whatever that means, since there's no spec that defines what "content" means on a non-pseudo-element...
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# [19:49] <bz> I believe the HTML spec may not match reality here
# [19:49] <bz> e.g., does setting change the width of the at all?
# [19:49] <dholbert> bz, gecko/blink/presto all seem to agree that styling doesn't really work on the element, FWIW.
# [19:49] * bz bets not
# [19:49] <dholbert> bz, nope
# [19:49] <bz> yeah
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# [19:49] <bz> So should file an HTML issue too
# [19:49] <dholbert> bz, I tried data:text/html,abc def for good measure
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# [19:49] <dholbert> bz, renders just like
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# [19:49] <bz> How this should behave in flexbox partly depends on how HTML defines to behave
# [19:50] <bz> Or rather how this should be specced in flexbox depends on that
# [19:50] <dholbert> yeah
# [19:50] <dholbert> bz, "The HTML spec specified" = old spec or current whatwg spec?
# [19:50] <bz> the latter
# [19:50] <bz> the former doesn't specify anythign worth a damn. ;)
# [19:51] <bz> So is hixie using http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-content/ here?
# [19:51] <dholbert> bz, ok :)
# [19:51] <bz> Or some other thing that defines content-on-element?
# [19:51] <dholbert> Hixie, feel free to chime in, if you're around :)
# [19:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c814f12120e - Jim Blandy - Bug 962441: Add regression test for Debugger.prototype.findScripts finding incompletely initialized JSScripts. r=shu
# [19:52] <bz> Anyway, the only sane interpretation of foo { content: "bar"; } is to render like <foo>bar</foo> would
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# [19:52] <bz> In which case the HTML spec definitely doesn't match reality.
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# [19:54] <dholbert> bz, ok -- I'll email whatwg
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# [19:54] <bz> dholbert: thanks!
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# [19:55] <dholbert> bz, and then www-style, since the flexbox spec probably needs to change regardless.
# [19:55] <Callek> or what about <foo style="content:'bar'">baz</foo> or <foo style="content:'bat'">bat</foo>
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# [19:55] <dholbert> bz, thank you!
# [19:55] <bz> dholbert: agreed
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# [19:56] <Waldo> dholbert: given try clobbers all the things, is there any way for me to test the mutateproto PGO bustage without pushing to inbound and then having sheriffs clobber or something?
# [19:56] <Waldo> also, sigh busted build system
# [19:57] <dholbert> Waldo, I'm guessing the best you could do would be a local PGO build, then apply your patches & rebuild
# [19:57] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: I tried using NS_Alloc/NS_Free and got build bustage still: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=33405946&tree=Try#error0
# [19:57] <Waldo> ...
# [19:57] <dholbert> Waldo, not sure that's worth it though
# [19:57] <Waldo> yeah, that ain't gonna happen :-\
# [19:57] <dholbert> Waldo, yeah
# [19:57] <dholbert> Waldo, probably better to just use the clobberer and/or just touch the clobber file
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# [19:58] <Waldo> dholbert: in the same push as the patch, I take it?
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# [19:58] <dholbert> Waldo, yeah
# [19:58] <yeukhon> somehow my old email yeukhon@mozilla.com is cc-ed when i receive emails from bugzilla..
# [19:58] <Waldo> gotcha
# [19:58] <dholbert> Waldo, (assuming that this is actually clobber-dependent, which I'm not sure but seems reasonable)
# [19:58] <yeukhon> is bugzilla doing some string checking?
# [19:58] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: you can't include mozalloc.h
# [19:58] <@bsmedberg> it's a magic header that redefines ::operator new
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# [19:59] <dholbert> bz, where is the "content" definition that you mentioned?
# [19:59] <dholbert> bz, I'm looking at http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/text-level-semantics.html#the-br-element which says "Content model: Empty", FWIW
# [20:00] <Ms2ger> dholbert, do you mean for rendering, or?
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# [20:00] <dholbert> Ms2ger, yeah
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# [20:00] <Ms2ger> dholbert, http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/rendering.html#phrasing-content-1
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# [20:01] <dholbert> Ms2ger, thanks
# [20:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/df11842197ff - Andreas Tolfsen - Bug 941136 - getUrl not matching webdriver command getCurrentUrl. r=dburns
# [20:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/866c407c65f8 - Andreas Tolfsen - Bug 941132 - getElementPosition not matching webdriver command. r=dburns
# [20:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae45c9201c8b - Andreas Tolfsen - Bug 961792 - Break iteration when browser is found. r=mdas
# [20:02] <Ms2ger> dholbert, np. In general, things about rendering are in the rendering section :)
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# [20:02] <dholbert> Ms2ger, ok. :) I haven't looked at the whatwg html spec much; I'm more used to CSS/SVG specs
# [20:02] <dholbert> thanks for the tip
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# [20:04] <dholbert> bz, so I guess the real question is whether "content" sensibly applies to elements with no close tag
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# [20:05] <dholbert> bz, which unfortunately are all elements with idiosyncratic renderings
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# [20:05] <@smaug> so, do we have some rule now that NS_ENSURE_ shouldn't be used
# [20:05] <dholbert> smaug, yes
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# [20:05] <dholbert> smaug, bsmedberg officially deprecated it on m.d.platform recently
# [20:06] <@smaug> for xpcom
# [20:06] <Ms2ger> dholbert, he's tried that before
# [20:06] <@smaug> but is that for everything
# [20:06] <bz> dholbert: Who knows
# [20:06] <dholbert> bz, i.e. unclear whether hr { content: 'abc' } or img { content: 'abc' } are expected to do anything
# [20:06] <Ms2ger> dholbert, outside of modules he owns, that's not true in practice
# [20:06] <bz> dholbert: I think people want img { content: 'abc' } to act just like abc
# [20:07] <bz> dholbert: last I heard
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# [20:07] <bz> dholbert: and the default img behavior to be img { content: url(attr(href)); } or some such
# [20:07] <dholbert> bz, ok. In that case, isn't the spec's definition correct then?
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# [20:08] <dholbert> bz, i.e. it should render like newline
# [20:08] <dholbert> bz, you're right that it doesn't reflect reality in the sense that no one lets it get any other custom styling
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# [20:08] <dholbert> bz, but at least as far as the 'content' thing, it seems to be used correctly, to me
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# [20:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e0f69ad55edf - Ali Akhtarzada - Bug 962288 - Don't call DeprecatedGetAsSurface unless it's Cairo. r=mattwoodrow
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# [20:12] <bz> dholbert: The spec's definition implies that you can give it display: block styling and a width and height and have it look like that
# [20:12] <@bsmedberg> Ms2ger: smaug: it is intended to be true for everything, yes
# [20:12] <bz> dholbert: which is false, no?
# [20:12] <bz> dholbert: in current UAs
# [20:12] <bz> dholbert: and I suspect is not web-compatible
# [20:13] <@bsmedberg> this conversation keeps happening, and NS_WARN_IF_FALSE was the solution that roc proposed last time and is now implemented
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# [20:14] <jcranmer> it keeps happening because both sides are at an impasse where the best option is to agree to disagree
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# [20:15] <dholbert> bz, right, ok
# [20:16] <dholbert> bz, just wanted to be sure that (the implication that custom styling works) is the point of contention, and not that "contents" was being used incorrectly
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# [20:16] <dholbert> s/contents/content/
# [20:16] <bz> yeah
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# [20:28] <bz> "at ehsan", "for answering", "onSO", "in the style", "of a comment"
# [20:28] <bz> Ms2ger: yes, we know.
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# [20:28] <Ms2ger> :D
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# [20:29] <@ehsan> NeilAway: on a more serious note, I barely know how to use SO
# [20:29] <froydnj> it's web 2.0, you point and click!
# [20:30] <froydnj> web 3.0 will remove the necessity of pointing
# [20:30] <bz> also of the human
# [20:30] <Callek> froydnj: web 3.0 will remove the click, you'll tap instead
# [20:30] <Callek> web 4.0 will remove humans
# [20:30] <@bsmedberg> this webiste would like direct access to read your thoughts... [ok] [no wait]
# [20:30] <bz> Web 2.5 will have stare and yawn
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# [20:31] <NeilAway> ehsan: ah yes, I have a teensy bit of bad news there... there's actually an HTML editor event listener, which I hadn't noticed before; would it make sense to move the code there?
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# [20:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ec09c9a9df1 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 958576 part 2. Move FakeDependentString to the binding_detail namespace. r=peterv
# [20:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/49bec226f30e - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 958576 part 1. Create a binding_detail namespace and move AutoSequence to it. r=peterv
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# [20:36] <@ehsan> NeilAway: you mean nsHTMLEditorEventListener?
# [20:36] <NeilAway> ehsan: right
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# [20:38] <@ehsan> NeilAway: hmm, it will be a bit less clean that way, but I can do that if you want
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# [20:38] <@ehsan> the only thing that would simplify is the null check in htmlEditor ;)
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# [20:38] <@ehsan> (inside ShouldHandleNativeKeyBindings)
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# [20:39] <NeilAway> ehsan: well, during my testing I found that the current code is getting called twice for form fields in documents with editable regions
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# [20:40] <@ehsan> NeilAway: which part of it?
# [20:40] <NeilAway> ehsan: the first time it bails because there's no HTML editor and the second one because the focused element is a form field, of course
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# [20:40] <@ehsan> right
# [20:40] <@ehsan> fwiw we have tons of places in editor/ where we do things in base classes like this
# [20:40] <NeilAway> ehsan: the ShouldHandleNativeKeyBindings part of it, in particular
# [20:41] <@ehsan> yeah that's expected with my patch
# [20:41] <NeilAway> ehsan: what, QI to nsHTMLEditor?
# [20:41] <@ehsan> that's one of the ways
# [20:41] <@ehsan> there is also a plaintext editor flag
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# [20:41] <@ehsan> among other things perhaps
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# [20:42] <@ehsan> NeilAway: the reason I did it in the base version in the beginning is that the HTML version doesn't have any key handling parts as of now...
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# [20:42] <NeilAway> ehsan: well, you're the second use of nsIHTMLEditor in base/ itself (no uses in text/)
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# [20:43] <@ehsan> NeilAway: try grepping for IsPlaintextEditor() :)
# [20:44] <@ehsan> NeilAway: I did the QI to avoid the static_cast which is dirtier
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# [20:46] <jld> ted: When/how should I ping upstream about the breakpad review I'm waiting on?
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# [20:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce9500f47c73 - Steve Fink - Bug 960342 - Add a RootedGeneric general class, r=terrence
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# [20:59] <ejpbruel> khuey: ping
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# [21:00] <@bsmedberg> gps: using your repo tool, is there a way to ask it for "every change which touched gfx/* and landed on mozilla-central between 15-sep and 12-jan, and the datetime it was pushed to mozilla-central?"
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# [21:01] <@bsmedberg> bonus points, which mozilla-central buildid it first appeared in ;-)
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# [21:01] <nsm> cpeterson: ping
# [21:01] <cpeterson> nsm: hi
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# [21:01] <nsm> cpeterson: is someone on the JS team looking at https://bugzil.la/800355?
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# [21:02] <cpeterson> nsm: no, not actively. Do you need Object.observer()?
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# [21:02] <nsm> no, but i'd like to see how microtasks would be implemented for that, i'd like those, nothing urgent
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# [21:03] <cpeterson> nsm: yeah, this feature will be useful for retiring some older Firebug debugger code.
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# [21:14] <evilpie> nsm: what are micro tasks?
# [21:14] <@smaug> evilpie: outermost script execution of the innermost task
# [21:15] <evilpie> well, what does that mean? :0
# [21:15] <@smaug> so, end of microtask is often at the end of an event listener
# [21:15] <@smaug> evilpie: mutationobserver callbacks are for example called at that point
# [21:15] <evilpie> oh
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# [21:15] <@smaug> more stuff is apparently moving to use microtasks
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# [21:16] <evilpie> maybe they just give the accumulated changes to something in the event code and it does the actual dispatching
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# [21:17] <@smaug> to be able to implement the Object.observe or whatever it is called, es needs some sane event loop definition
# [21:17] <@smaug> maybe there is such already
# [21:17] * @smaug hasn't followed that.
# [21:18] <@smaug> but you can blame me about microtasks :p
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# [21:19] <NeilAway> note to self: ensure patch has applied before rebuilding
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# [21:20] <jcranmer> been there, done that
# [21:20] <Waldo> smaug: I think es6 is trying to add something, ish, but es6 is not really ready yet
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# [21:24] <catlee> ehsan: yeah, I think we can go ahead with other platforms for non-unified builds
# [21:24] <catlee> want to coordinate that tomorrow?
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# [21:50] <NeilAway> who knows about mozilla::ArrayLength?
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# [21:50] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, I know a little
# [21:50] <froydnj> NeilAway: static_assert problems?
# [21:50] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, Waldo knows more
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# [21:51] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, do you have a question?
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# [21:54] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: yeah, msvc hates it
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# [21:54] <Ms2ger> Aha
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# [21:54] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: in particular static const foo = mozilla::ArrayLength(bar); compiles to an initialised variable
# [21:55] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: and in a function it compiles to a function call
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# [21:59] <Sylvestre> ;)
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# [21:59] <jcranmer> Sylvestre: I just heard that you recently joined Mozilla
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# [21:59] <Sylvestre> Yes, yesterday :)
# [22:00] <jcranmer> (is that going to make rust packaging on debian happen faster?)
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# [22:00] <bagder> aha, newer than me then, I started last Monday =)
# [22:00] <Sylvestre> ah ah, I have been hired as ff release manager
# [22:01] <Ms2ger> Ah, so you're the new Alex?
# [22:01] <Sylvestre> There is a strong interest from Debian to have rust in the archive
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# [22:01] <Sylvestre> I don't think I am :) I will be working with lsblakk
# [22:02] <jcranmer> I also heard you were looking at packaging DXR, which caught me by surprise
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# [22:02] <Sylvestre> Actually, I am mentoring a good friend of mine for packaging it
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# [22:02] <jcranmer> (if you weren't aware, I was one of the initial developers of DXR)
# [22:02] <Sylvestre> we are working on getting trilite first
# [22:03] <jcranmer> (not that I've done much work on it in the past few years)
# [22:03] <Sylvestre> cool :)
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# [22:03] <Sylvestre> it is a great project
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# [22:04] <jcranmer> I applaud you for all of your efforts in clang/llvm-related packaging in Debian
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# [22:04] <Sylvestre> I am going to blush :)
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# [22:05] <Sylvestre> to be fair, it is not an very hard task, llvm/clang are excellent software
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# [22:05] <jcranmer> getting packages to build with clang is not as easy
# [22:05] <Sylvestre> bagder, congrat too ;)
# [22:05] <bagder> now if we could get firefox to be firefox on debian too... =)
# [22:06] <Sylvestre> bagder ;)
# [22:06] * bagder runs debian all over
# [22:06] <jcranmer> and thunderbird :-)
# [22:06] <bagder> ah that too, yes
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# [22:06] <jcranmer> (I'm one of the main thunderbird devs)
# [22:06] <Sylvestre> + seamonkey :)
# [22:07] <bagder> I don't use that myself personally, so I tend to forget that
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# [22:07] <@ehsan> NeilAway: so just to confirm, are you fine with landing the patch as is?
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# [22:11] <@bsmedberg> snorp: the new patch still has a reinterpret_cast?
# [22:11] <snorp> bsmedberg: uhhhh
# [22:11] <snorp> I thought I fixed it?
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# [22:12] <snorp> bsmedberg: ah, one other instance, ugh
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# [22:13] <snorp> I hate monkey patching crap for branches
# [22:14] <@bsmedberg> yeah, it's unpleasant
# [22:14] <bagder> Sylvestre: oh and sorry for being slow but congrats you too and welcome!
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# [22:23] <snorp> bsmedberg: so I was curious, why couldn't we get away with not changing the uuid here
# [22:23] <snorp> bsmedberg: I'm only adding a new method, and not using it from xpcom
# [22:24] <@bsmedberg> snorp: because if somebody is compiling against the beta1 SDK and calling methods on nsIPresShell
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# [22:24] <@bsmedberg> the vtable layout will have changed and they will call the wrong method
# [22:24] <snorp> bsmedberg: oh, C++ addons?
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# [22:24] <@bsmedberg> yes
# [22:24] <snorp> huh I guess I didn't really know we had those
# [22:24] <efaust|EST|PTO> mjrosenb: you still after me?
# [22:25] <@bsmedberg> that's the only reason we do any of this
# [22:25] <snorp> sigh, addons
# [22:25] <@bsmedberg> I haven't managed to get rid of them entirely yet
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# [22:34] <mjrosenb> efaust|EST|PTO: no, sstangl was wondering when he needed to pick you up.
# [22:34] <efaust|EST|PTO> mjrosenb: ah, OK. I'll talk to him.
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# [22:37] <NeilAway> ehsan: sure
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# [22:43] <fitzgen> jimb: jan
# [22:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f5c17b4a4199 - Myk Melez - Bug 960811 - enable the 'synthetic APKs' implementation of Open Web Apps; r=mfinkle
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# [22:43] <fitzgen> jimb: jan's stuff is only about AbstractCodePtr right
# [22:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/771eb936595f - Myk Melez - Bug 959244 - launch web app with correct manifest URL and name; r=wesj
# [22:43] <fitzgen> jimb: so we don't need to worry about that at the moment
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# [22:44] <jimb> fitzgen: Yeah, jandem just pointed out that in addition to references to IonScripts and JSScripts, there's a third kind of thing that the baseline compiler uses that we also want to support
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# [22:44] <fitzgen> jimb: cool. What file should the stack tree live in? Debugger.cpp?
# [22:45] <jimb> fitzgen: I don't think so... the stack tree should become SpiderMonkey's preferred representation for saved stacks. So perhaps js/src/vm/SavedStacks.cpp?
# [22:45] <fitzgen> ty
# [22:45] <jimb> Eventually we want Error objects to capture those, for example.
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# [22:50] <ttaubert> billm: hey, I think SessionHistory.collect() might be called too early. when about:blank starts loading for the new blank tab basically
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# [22:50] <ttaubert> billm: that wasn't a problem before when the frame script was loaded later
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# [22:51] <ttaubert> billm: or wait no. that doesn't make sense. we're being called by the sync handler
# [22:52] <billm> ttaubert: it might be that the sync handler gets called when closing a tab, after the docshell has been cleared from the chrome global
# [22:52] <billm> ttaubert: but that doesn't explain the duplication issue, since the tab should still exist then
# [22:52] <ttaubert> billm: yeah
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# [22:52] <ttaubert> the first makes sense
# [22:52] <ttaubert> I was thinking about the second
# [22:52] <ttaubert> but even for onTabClose
# [22:52] <ttaubert> we should be able to collect data
# [22:53] <ttaubert> because we do it before the tab gets removed
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# [22:53] <billm> ttaubert: but I always see the error when closing the tab
# [22:54] <ttaubert> billm: yeah, that's weird
# [22:54] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: By the way, my Aurora pushes are 100% metro-only (and therefore NPOTB for anything except Win builds and metro-chrome tests), in case it saves you any retriggering.
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# [22:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/9294d16ada62 - Mike Hommey - Bug 956398 - Error out at build time if we end up with text relocations. r=ted, a=bajaj
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# [22:59] <billm> ttaubert: ok. if I come up with something quick, do you have time to review? otherwise I'll just back out.
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# [22:59] <ttaubert> billm: yeah I'll be around some more
# [22:59] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: check-sync-dirs on Aurora...
# [22:59] <billm> ttaubert: ok, cool, thanks
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# [23:06] <ttaubert> billm: so one thing I found is, we don't remove message listener on window close
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# [23:06] <ttaubert> billm: that code is still in onTabRemove()
# [23:06] <billm> oops
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# [23:07] <ttaubert> yeah I didn't catch that either :)
# [23:07] <dholbert> bz, I just posted RE our discussion earlier, BTW: http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2014-January/041906.html and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Jan/0317.html
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# [23:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/cd615489ee57 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 956398 - Fix bustage due to check-sync-dirs still running on Aurora/Beta. r=glandium, a=bustage
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# [23:09] <ttaubert> billm: maybe it's the delayed load that somehow behaves differently
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# [23:11] <RyanVM> MattN: m-oth orange on fx-team
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# [23:13] <MattN> RyanVM: looking
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# [23:14] <ttaubert> billm: ugh, I think this is tied to the BrowserNewTabPreloader
# [23:14] <billm> ttaubert: that sort of makes sense. why do you think?
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# [23:15] <ttaubert> billm: because the frame script is now added right after the tab is created, not after the tabbrowser fired the event
# [23:15] <ttaubert> billm: so we end up with a docShell in the hiddenWindow that sends us a sync handler
# [23:15] <MattN> RyanVM: I'll backout 026dc3ee0654
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# [23:16] <ttaubert> billm: because that uses docShell swapping
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# [23:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b3dd8117325 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset e0f69ad55edf (bug 962288) under suspicion of leaking on a CLOSED TREE
# [23:16] <ttaubert> billm: not totally sure yet
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# [23:18] <gps> bsmedberg: the web service, not yet. but the Mercurial extension I wrote can do that
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# [23:18] <MattN> RyanVM: actually, can you backout both changesets for 956162?
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# [23:18] <KWierso|sheriffduty> I can
# [23:18] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty ^
# [23:19] <MattN> thanks
# [23:19] <gps> hg log -r 'tree(central) & pushdate(2013-09-15 to 2014-01-12)' gfx/
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# [23:19] <ttaubert> billm: yeah, the error isn't visible until 5s after the start, which is when the preloader kicks in
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# [23:20] <gps> bsmedberg: ^
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# [23:20] <ttaubert> billm: so the one problem is that the very first docShell coming from the hidden window doesn't have the frame script
# [23:21] <billm> ttaubert: don't we have code to load it in later though?
# [23:21] <ttaubert> billm: right, I just saw that. *should* be working
# [23:21] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mattn, ryanvm: done
# [23:22] <billm> ttaubert: I just realized that my debugging is impeded because dump statements don't work in the content script, since it's been disconnected
# [23:22] <ttaubert> billm: so then the problem is the docShell that is swapped to the hidden window. will we load frame scripts twice?
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# [23:23] <billm> ttaubert: I don't think that docshell swapping loads any new frame scripts. not sure though.
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# [23:24] <ttaubert> oh turns out I forgot everything about the preloader
# [23:24] <billm> ttaubert: oh wait, it looks like it does
# [23:25] <ttaubert> ok so we create a new browser every time
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# [23:25] <ttaubert> after swapping we append the docShells
# [23:25] <ttaubert> frame scripts
# [23:25] <ttaubert> load
# [23:25] <ttaubert> it's late
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# [23:26] <ttaubert> the other docShell coming from the window is just discarded
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# [23:27] <ttaubert> I don't really see why that should be doing anything
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# [23:30] <billm> ttaubert: what does remove() do on a <browser> element?
# [23:30] <ttaubert> billm: it's just an alias for parentNode.removeChild(child)
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# [23:30] <billm> oh ok
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# [23:34] <heycam> njn, jwatt does
# [23:34] <@njn> heycam: ok, thanks
# [23:35] <jwatt> don't do it!
# [23:35] <heycam> ha
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# [23:35] <@gavin> ttaubert: huh, where is remove() defined?
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# [23:36] <mbrubeck> gavin: DOM
# [23:36] <mbrubeck> gavin: Specifically DOM4 http://www.w3.org/TR/dom/#childnode
# [23:37] <@gavin> where in the dom? I couldn't find IDL for it
# [23:37] <@gavin> or documents for it
# [23:37] <@gavin> is it new?
# [23:37] <billm> ttaubert: well, it's definitely calling the sync handler on the new tab preload docshell, which has already been unloaded
# [23:37] <Mossop> It's pretty new
# [23:37] <mbrubeck> http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/webidl/ChildNode.webidl
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# [23:37] <mbrubeck> new in Gecko 23: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=856629
# [23:37] <@gavin> interesting
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# [23:38] <billm> ttaubert: it looks like it's a problem in how the sync handlers are set up
# [23:38] <mbrubeck> RyanVM|afk, KWierso|sheriffduty: I closed Aurora to prevent gaiapushbot from landing on bustage again
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# [23:39] <ttaubert> billm: ok that's a pointer
# [23:39] <mbrubeck> I think https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/3fe07c50c854 needs to come out
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# [23:40] <RyanVM|afk> mbrubeck: there's a dependency
# [23:40] <RyanVM|afk> pretty sure we're good now, but let's leave it closed until there's builds finishing
# [23:40] <mbrubeck> good now?
# [23:41] <RyanVM|afk> yes
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# [23:41] <mbrubeck> ah, now I see the backout :)
# [23:41] <RyanVM|afk> mbrubeck: going afk, ping if you need something
# [23:41] <ttaubert> billm: so when opening a new tab, I only get one setupSyncHandler message, but I think it should be two?
# [23:41] <RyanVM|afk> will be relatively close
# [23:42] <billm> ttaubert: the second (correct) content script sends setupSyncHandler, but it's not getting received
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# [23:45] <bz> lduros: compare https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2013/05/14/firefox-heal-thyself/ to https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar ?
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