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1. # Session Start: Tue Jan 28 00:00:00 2014
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14. # [00:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd0d0f6002dc - Markus Stange - Bug 846566 - Enable HiDPI for fullscreen plugins by adding an NSPrincipalClass entry to the plugin bundle's Info.plist. r=smichaud
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17. # [00:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/602063f5fc68 - Markus Stange - Bug 958674 - Invalidate the popup content view when showing the popup. r=smichaud
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30. # [00:09] <Gijs> mattwoodrow: so regarding bug 963025 - how does the text getting cut off make sense?
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32. # [00:09] * Gijs could live with the antialiasing
33. # [00:09] <@bsmedberg> marco2: I have a program which injects a crash into a running .exe, but it doesn't work for windows
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35. # [00:09] <@bsmedberg> marco2: if you have chrome access you can use ctypes to crash, also
36. # [00:09] <mattwoodrow> Gijs: That part doesn't :( I'm still thinking about that one
37. # [00:10] <Gijs> mattwoodrow: one thing I was thinking... we set height constraints on those buttons
38. # [00:10] <Gijs> mattwoodrow: however, there seems to be some problem with applying those to moz-box elements
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41. # [00:11] <mattwoodrow> Gijs: It's possible that we're measuring the text incorrectly
42. # [00:11] <Gijs> mattwoodrow: (e.g. bug 789414) - it could be that transformed elements changes that?
43. # [00:11] <Gijs> hrm
44. # [00:11] <mattwoodrow> I know very little about the xul elements sorry
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46. # [00:12] <mattwoodrow> it's possible that something is interacting badly there, but I don't enough to make useful guesses
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51. # [00:13] <Gijs> mattwoodrow: do you know who we could ask instead? This layout is causing us some other problems and it'd be really helpful to have some contact to ask about bewildering issues :(
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54. # [00:15] <mattwoodrow> Gijs: Let me try to reproduce it
55. # [00:15] <philor> well, that's going to leave a mark
56. # [00:15] <Gijs> philor: ?
57. # [00:15] <philor> somebody want to back out https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31993b8e06cc, or should I just close inbound through to the end of the regular closure?
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61. # [00:17] <mattwoodrow> Gijs: Should I need to do anything special to reproduce this?
62. # [00:17] <mattwoodrow> I see the AA change, but the text is all there
63. # [00:17] <mattwoodrow> (OSX retina)
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66. # [00:18] <Gijs> mattwoodrow: huh, no, if you drag anything that isn't a two-line item in customization mode, I see that issue, IIRC both on regular nightly and on current fx-team tip
67. # [00:18] * Gijs pokes regular nightly and a new profile
68. # [00:18] <Gijs> mattwoodrow: that is, if you leave at least one two-line item, and drag the item next to it, it should be pretty obvious...
69. # [00:19] <RyanVM|afk> philor: oh, is that the thing I was told to go ahead and leave in?
70. # [00:19] <mattwoodrow> Gijs: Yeah, I'm doing the same movements you did in your video
71. # [00:19] <mattwoodrow> with m-c, built yesterday
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73. # [00:20] <Gijs> mattwoodrow: but your own build? :)
74. # [00:21] <Gijs> mattwoodrow: try "regular" nightly?
75. # [00:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5041c3109c5a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 31993b8e06cc (bug 959499) for breaking B2G mochitests.
76. # [00:21] <mattwoodrow> Gijs: correct
77. # [00:21] <philor> RyanVM|afk: dunno, were you told "this will break every b2g mochitest, but whatever"?
78. # [00:21] <mattwoodrow> I guess I can do tha
79. # [00:21] <Gijs> mattwoodrow: we build with the 10.6 SDK and your local build likely doesn't (unless you explicitly configured that), and this wouldn't be the first time it makes a difference
80. # [00:21] <philor> either way is good for me, I can file a releng bug to shut them off everywhere :)
81. # [00:22] * Gijs really wishes we got rid of 10.6 support already :(
82. # [00:22] <RyanVM|afk> philor: "this will probably break things, but I'm only 95% sure, so just leave it in for now"
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85. # [00:24] * philor expresses his deep respect for b2g mochitests by just reopening immediately
86. # [00:24] <philor> also? the reftests are insane
87. # [00:25] <philor> never a good sign when you just run reftest-sanity and nothing else, I've never yet seen a sane platform/config do that
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89. # [00:25] <mattwoodrow> Gijs: And there it is...
90. # [00:26] <philor> alas, I can't find the bug I remember, talking about failures where b2g either draws a scrollbar or doesn't, you know, whatever, whenever
91. # [00:26] <Gijs> mattwoodrow: I've never been sadder to be right. :(
92. # [00:26] <AutomatedTester> KWierso: philor are we heading into a dark place again with the trees?
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95. # [00:27] <mattwoodrow> Yeah, I'm pretty deeply upset by that too
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101. # [00:28] <mattwoodrow> Gijs: I have a meeting now sorry
102. # [00:29] <mattwoodrow> getting confirmation that this is dependent on which SDK is used would be useful
103. # [00:29] <Gijs> mattwoodrow: OK. I can have that in 15 minutes. I'll update the bug already though, because if you couldn't reproduce with your regular build but can with m-c...
104. # [00:30] <philor> AutomatedTester: if you mean "are we turning on shitty suites?" then yes, if you mean "is it almost 7:30pm?" then no
105. # [00:30] <mattwoodrow> Gijs: Yes, but there are other differences in the builds
106. # [00:30] <marco2> bsmedberg: ok, thanks!
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108. # [00:30] <mattwoodrow> Ideally I'd want to just change the SDK and rebuild and see if it makes the problem appear
109. # [00:30] <AutomatedTester> philor: I mean the builds 4hr nagios
110. # [00:30] <Gijs> mattwoodrow: I suppose so... all my fx-team builds are with 10.6, because it was an issue in the past
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112. # [00:30] <Gijs> mattwoodrow: but I can copy my mozconfig and remove that line (IIRC 10.8 would be the default) and rebuild
113. # [00:31] <philor> AutomatedTester: oh, that, I just ignore it unless it doesn't claim recovery for an hour
114. # [00:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c7d862c7116d - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 950301. Make the underlying frame of scroll layer items be the scrolled frame before the layerizing display lists. r=mattwoodrow
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118. # [00:32] <Gijs> huh, I stand corrected
119. # [00:32] <Gijs> apparently my build is with 10.8
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138. # [00:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13bffcd29d30 - David Burns - Bug 959186 - Remove platform capability in favour of platformName; r=mdas
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160. # [00:58] <twi> speaking of the 10.6 sdk
161. # [00:58] <twi> does anyone know how to get the _exact_ build settings that try uses?
162. # [00:58] <twi> settings/toolchain
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166. # [01:01] <mattwoodrow> twi: The mozconfig files are in browsers/config/mozconfigs
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170. # [01:04] <mattwoodrow> and if you want to match the toolchain, then you need to build clang yourself
171. # [01:04] <mattwoodrow> current revision is in browser/config/tooltool-manifests/macosx64/releng.manifest iirc
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240. # [01:50] <@gavin> has anyone else seen https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964560 ?
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250. # [01:55] <@gavin> ( slow script dialog appearing on gmail for talkwidget.google.com script)
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253. # [01:57] <hurley> gavin: i have, but only on one of two machines (that are very similarly configured - near identical), but mine is on g+, not gmail (i don't have the talk widget enabled in gmail)
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258. # [01:57] * hurley will comment in bug
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276. # [02:00] <@gavin> hurley: I don't have it enabled in gmail either!
277. # [02:00] <@gavin> and yet I still see it
278. # [02:00] <hurley> weird!
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287. # [02:02] <mrbkap> gavin: I've also seen that.
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291. # [02:02] <@gavin> mrbkap, billm, hurley: when do you first remember seeing it?
292. # [02:02] <@gavin> margaret: ^
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294. # [02:03] <hurley> gavin: my memory is fuzzy, but maybe a week or so ago? seems a fairly recent phenomenon for me
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297. # [02:03] <billm> gavin: yeah, maybe 4 or 5 days ago
298. # [02:03] <mrbkap> gavin: I was going to say almost exactly the same thing as hurley
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300. # [02:04] <hurley> glad my memory isn't completely gone :)
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324. # [02:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a1e002cb3c2 - Anthony Jones - Bug 962954 - Add clang-format downloading support for OSX; r=gps
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356. # [02:29] <jcranmer> is nsTArray safe with mozilla::UniquePtr?
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358. # [02:29] <froydnj> probably
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361. # [02:30] <froydnj> errr...not
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364. # [02:30] <froydnj> got distracted there
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376. # [02:36] <philor> somebody land australis on aurora NOW
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378. # [02:37] <@gavin> why
379. # [02:37] <jcranmer> gavin: read m.d.planning?
380. # [02:37] <@gavin> ah, yes
381. # [02:37] <philor> :)
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383. # [02:37] <jcranmer> Phillip M. Jones, one of the individuals who is designated in my book as the "ignore everything he says"
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387. # [02:39] <till> he did use five exclamation marks, so there must be something to what he's saying ...
388. # [02:39] <shu> his website is kind of amazing
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393. # [02:40] <@roc> is there a Linux command line tool to show the threads in each process?
394. # [02:41] <gps> roc: you can toggle threads with top by pressing some key
395. # [02:41] <gps> "it's been a while"
396. # [02:41] <shu> roc: ps axms
397. # [02:42] <billm> roc: pstree is pretty nice
398. # [02:42] <@roc> billm: yeah I just discovered pstree -c -p
399. # [02:42] <@roc> thanks
400. # [02:42] <shu> oh man pstress is much easier to read than ps
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404. # [02:43] <philor> harder to type, though
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407. # [02:44] <shu> pstree*
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480. # [03:11] <jcranmer> hmmmm
481. # [03:11] <jcranmer> would anyone complain if I used std::vector<mozilla::UniquePtr<T>> ?
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483. # [03:12] <Unfocused> i would
484. # [03:12] <froydnj> jcranmer: in what respect would vector behave any differently than nsTArray?
485. # [03:12] <Unfocused> there's no way in hell i want to see that in my JS files
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487. # [03:13] <jcranmer> froydnj: std::vector is supposed to move elements instead of copy them
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500. # [03:17] <glandium> njn: ping
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505. # [03:19] <@njn> glandium: hello
506. # [03:19] <glandium> njn: too late, i found what i was after
507. # [03:19] <glandium> :-p
508. # [03:20] <glandium> (i was looking for the bug # for 947072)
509. # [03:20] <@njn> glandium: behind the fridge
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514. # [03:22] <glandium> njn: btw, why did you give up on that?
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516. # [03:23] <@njn> glandium: only a small benefit for a rather invasive change
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520. # [03:23] <@njn> didn't feel worth the risk
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524. # [03:28] <twi> is something wrong with macosx64 build slaves? on trychooser I see build queue=399 and the number seems to get higher
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536. # [03:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/42bb4abbd6c9 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 963528 - Don't allocate zero-sized script data. r=luke.
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539. # [03:34] <nthomas> twi: the build queue is 14, test is 371. There's a missing <tab> or something
540. # [03:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4da3e21a0e5f - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 916350 followup, b2g desktop is every bit as prone to screwing up the scrollbar in 647192-1.html as b2g emulator is
541. # [03:34] <philor> a too-long line, actually
542. # [03:34] <twi> nthomas oh, that sounds better :)
543. # [03:34] <twi> thanks
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545. # [03:34] <KWierso> philor++
546. # [03:34] <philor> it's sfink's fault, the shell rooting line is too long
547. # [03:35] <philor> and now, to race merging around before that damn philor shuts everything down for the night
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556. # [03:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4da3e21a0e5f - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 916350 followup, b2g desktop is every bit as prone to screwing up the scrollbar in 647192-1.html as b2g emulator is
557. # [03:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8df5ea85c098 - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-c to m-i
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562. # [03:43] <philor> me:"try: -b do -p all,win64 -u all -t all" us:"remote: Thanks for helping save resources, you're the best!"
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564. # [03:44] <ttaubert> heh
565. # [03:44] <ttaubert> esp. including win64 tops it off
566. # [03:45] <philor> I guess I saved the resources of doing a shell rooting build
567. # [03:45] <philor> and there's trychooser patch number four I need to write, since we claim asan isn't run by default, which it is
568. # [03:45] <glandium> i love messages like that last that hit dev-planning
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570. # [03:46] <hub> glandium: like about Australis
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572. # [03:47] <philor> gah, and I misread it, or rather didn't actually read it, I thought he was going to take his ball and go home, not that he was going to run an insecure version for the rest of his life
573. # [03:47] <hub> people hate change
574. # [03:47] <philor> almost as much as they hate not-change
575. # [03:47] <hub> I was hoping a "I'll use Chrome then"
576. # [03:47] <ttaubert> heh
577. # [03:47] <glandium> philor: usually not the same people, though
578. # [03:47] <hub> philor: yeah :-/.
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582. # [03:48] <philor> oh, he's probably got several pet bugs where he wants a change, and nobody's done it even though it's been n years
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589. # [03:49] <glandium> that being said, we're not making a strong case for australis not being like chrome.
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591. # [03:49] <philor> how could we?
592. # [03:50] <glandium> and however much we want to say it's not, the biggest changes in australis *do* make ff look like chrome
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596. # [03:51] <philor> I say, embrace it: "Firefox 29 With Australis: It's Like Chrome, Except We Aren't Creepy"
597. # [03:51] <glandium> philor: yeah, might actually work better than denying
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599. # [03:52] <hub> and we fight for the freedom
600. # [03:52] <ttaubert> *cough* https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3696/8994445994_dd8232ab8a.jpg
601. # [03:52] <glandium> ttaubert: yeah, because that's convincing
602. # [03:53] <ttaubert> glandium: that's why I was coughing
603. # [03:53] <ttaubert> :D
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605. # [03:53] <glandium> you forget the new menu, too
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608. # [03:53] <ttaubert> yeah
609. # [03:53] <ttaubert> I do
610. # [03:53] <shu> you mean Unicode Character 'TRIGRAM FOR HEAVEN'
611. # [03:54] <glandium> (and in all fairness, i find it confusing)
612. # [03:55] <philor> I don't: there's two menus, the one I never use, and the ones I still use :)
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614. # [03:55] <glandium> philor: mac?
615. # [03:55] <philor> yep
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617. # [03:55] <glandium> yeah
618. # [03:56] <@njn> philor, glandium: Phillip Jones is a professional troll
619. # [03:56] <glandium> njn: he gets money for trolling?
620. # [03:56] <philor> neat, who broke test_dataChannel_basicAudio.html across all trees?
621. # [03:56] <philor> not, mind you, that broken is significantly different than the previous state
622. # [03:56] <glandium> not me
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624. # [03:57] <philor> or could it be... the network?
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631. # [04:02] <philor> hmm, maybe I can't just make light of test_dataChannel_basicAudio.html
632. # [04:02] <philor> heap use after free during GC probably isn't a joking matter
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634. # [04:03] <philor> unless webrtc is off by default, and requires effort to cause it to run, then it's still a joking matter
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846. # [06:14] <nigelb> morning
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850. # [06:17] <KWierso> nigelb: evening ;)
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852. # [06:18] <nigelb|trainee-sheriff> :)
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855. # [06:19] <KWierso> nigelb|trainee-sheriff: we're all just waiting with bated breath for the nightly tree closure
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857. # [06:19] <nigelb|trainee-sheriff> Inbound seems to have a lot of test_dataChannel_basicAudio.html | Test timed out.
858. # [06:19] <nigelb|trainee-sheriff> I've just starred that thrice.
859. # [06:21] <nigelb|trainee-sheriff> KWierso: what's wrong with nightly? bug 962029
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861. # [06:21] <nigelb|trainee-sheriff> Or rather, is it that bug?
862. # [06:21] <KWierso> not sure I understand the question
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864. # [06:22] <KWierso> a test was disabled because it depended on running immediately after a different test (which was recently disabled)
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866. # [06:22] <nigelb|trainee-sheriff> Ah
867. # [06:22] <nigelb|trainee-sheriff> I was just wondering why you were waiting for nightly tree closure :)
868. # [06:23] <KWierso> that's the little-n "
869. # [06:23] <KWierso> "nightly" ;)
870. # [06:23] <KWierso> as in every night
871. # [06:23] <KWierso> not the browser development channel
872. # [06:23] <nigelb|trainee-sheriff> ahh :D
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874. # [06:23] <philor> nigelb|trainee-sheriff: "timed out after 330 seconds" is quite often very different from "test timed out"
875. # [06:24] <nigelb|trainee-sheriff> Ohh.
876. # [06:24] <nigelb|trainee-sheriff> Sorry :(
877. # [06:24] <philor> in this case, those ASan failures were actual ASan failures, heap-use-after-free, which then hung and didn't produce any output for 330 seconds
878. # [06:24] <philor> happens, sometimes the message is different and means the same, sometimes it's lovely fresh new bustage
879. # [06:25] <philor> which, incomprehensibly, is across both inbound and fx-team
880. # [06:25] <nigelb|trainee-sheriff> so, all the audio failures I starred were wrong?
881. # [06:25] <KWierso> and b2g-inbound!
882. # [06:25] <philor> so I was waiting with baited breath for the tree closure, to look more at how that could be :)
883. # [06:25] <nigelb|trainee-sheriff> bah, should have asked first.
884. # [06:26] <@smaug> whaat
885. # [06:26] <@smaug> during the dinner 215 bugmails :/
886. # [06:26] <philor> usually, "timed out" means "it just took longer than we allow, but was still going" and 330 seconds means it hung, or was asan's less than stellar reporting
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888. # [06:27] <jld> philor: Do crashes on B2G also wait out the 330 seconds, or is that just my crashes?
889. # [06:27] <nigelb|trainee-sheriff> philor: thanks, I'll make sure I don't amke the same mistake again :)
890. # [06:28] <nigelb|trainee-sheriff> I think you've told me this before, and I've forgotten.
891. # [06:28] <KWierso> nigelb|trainee-sheriff: to be fair, we probably should have filed the new stuff earlier :)
892. # [06:28] <philor> jld: "on b2g" tends to be really really awfully weird, like the log will stop in one place, but if you look at logcat it ran clear on into another test
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898. # [06:29] <jld> philor: More specifically, crashing with SIGSYS results in hitting that timeout (including when I run locally), so if crashing with SIGSEGV *doesn't* do that, then I have stuff to fix.
899. # [06:29] <jld> Or, doesn't *always* do that.
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905. # [06:32] <KWierso> philor: there we go
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930. # [06:47] <philor> ugh, get out of my try push, ASan failure
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933. # [06:48] <philor> um, wft, my *aurora* try push
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937. # [06:49] <philor> what did we uplift way too soon, way too late in the cycle?
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940. # [06:50] <philor> smaug: don't suppose there are any clues in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=33671028&full=1&branch=try#error0 are there?
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960. # [07:02] <@smaug> philor: is that something new
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962. # [07:02] <@smaug> one patch I'm testing might help
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964. # [07:02] <@smaug> but not at all sure
965. # [07:02] <philor> smaug: well, I *think* so, but the odd thing is that it's new and on inbound and on fx-team and on b2g-inbound and on aurora
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967. # [07:03] <@smaug> some peerconnection related changes lately?
968. # [07:03] <philor> at least, I first saw it tonight, on all three trunk trees, but that one is from me pushing aurora to try
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972. # [07:05] <@smaug> philor: any idea when try might get reopened?
973. # [07:06] <philor> smaug: no earlier than 1.5 hours is a good bet
974. # [07:06] <philor> though this one started late, dunno if it'll recover at a normal time
975. # [07:06] <philor> https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/ddb0773a7ce8?
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977. # [07:07] <philor> long time to have sat on trunk unnoticed, though
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1114. # [08:40] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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1116. # [08:42] <nigelb|trainee-sheriff> morning Ms2ger
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1127. # [08:51] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning Ms2ger and nigelb
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1199. # [09:37] <whimboo> karl: hi! so could debug builds also help for the gtk related crash?
1200. # [09:37] <whimboo> or are asan builds necessary?
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1203. # [09:38] <karl> whimboo: debug builds do some clearing of freed memory which can help; asan builds are more likely to catch reuse of that memory
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1206. # [09:40] <whimboo> karl: k. so we have seen this crash only once yet. so it might be very hard to reproduce
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1208. # [09:40] <whimboo> and if we don't know that it happens on central too, i don't see that we should put efforts on it right now
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1211. # [09:41] <karl> others have seen something similar with the file dialog, though reports are reasonably old now
1212. # [09:41] <whimboo> that's something we cannot automate in mozmill
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1214. # [09:41] <karl> ok
1215. # [09:41] <whimboo> so we cant see issues like those
1216. # [09:41] <whimboo> but we will keep an eye on this crash
1217. # [09:42] <karl> thanks
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1242. # [10:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64bf5ddbf754 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 749123 Don't use GtkIMContextSimple for IME disabled editor (GTK3 build) r=karlt
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1351. # [11:31] <heftig> publically inaccessible bugs are typically security-relevant?
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1354. # [11:33] <heftig> i.e. they contain information about exploitable vulnerabilities that shouldn't be publically known yet
1355. # [11:34] <Ms2ger> Typically, yes
1356. # [11:34] <KWierso|afk> security or corporate-internal, typically
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1359. # [11:35] <Ms2ger> KWierso|afk, get out :)
1360. # [11:35] <heftig> just wondering because i've just seen a commit in aurora that had no description beyond the bug number, and the bug was not accessible
1361. # [11:35] <KWierso|afk> if it's committed without a description, it's most likely security-sensitive
1362. # [11:36] <heftig> yeah, looking at the content it seems to fix some vulnerability in the SVG filter code
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1367. # [11:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> KWierso|afk: good night :)
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1372. # [11:46] <evilpie> heftig: psst don't tell anyone :)
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1382. # [11:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29a9828e695f - Jon Coppeard - Bug 959787 - Fix OOM crash added by previous patch r=terrence
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1384. # [11:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e10ef633ded9 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 961741 - Allow shape's parent to be null in postbarrier callback r=terrence
1385. # [11:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3fd32a07dcca - Jon Coppeard - Bug 964214 - Don't wait for background sweep to finish for minor GC r=terrence
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1387. # [11:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/34ac931fc286 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 964214 - Don't recompact store buffer if there are no new entries r=terrence
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1413. # [12:10] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: closing the trees
1414. # [12:11] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: from the builds-4hr alert?
1415. # [12:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
1416. # [12:11] <edmorley> cool
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1419. # [12:11] <edmorley> was just commenting in the bug about the nagios alert still going off on a daily basis
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1421. # [12:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh
1422. # [12:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
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1424. # [12:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: i still need to file a new bug right
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1427. # [12:14] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: use bug 960054
1428. # [12:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok
1429. # [12:16] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: done
1430. # [12:16] <edmorley> great, thank you :-)
1431. # [12:17] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: btw does UX has also now sheriff coverage ?
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1433. # [12:17] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: no
1434. # [12:18] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: because wondered why its listed under treestatus :)
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1436. # [12:18] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok time to reopen
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1438. # [12:19] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: because treestatus allows people to close and reopen their own tree, it != list of trees the sheriffs monitor :-)
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1440. # [12:19] <edmorley> eg thunderbird trees are listed too...
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1442. # [12:21] * Gijs grumbles
1443. # [12:22] <Gijs> you know you're in for a /great/ day when you try to push, the tree is closed, and you open tbpl to find it open again.
1444. # [12:22] <Gijs> (and are momentarily very confused)
1445. # [12:25] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: yeah this kind of tree closure are also not fun for us sheriffs, like the other issue with the 503 server busy thing each day
1446. # [12:26] <Gijs> :(
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1451. # [12:31] <edmorley> Gijs: if it helps, treestatus.m.o (linked from the TBPL menus) has changelog of state, including timestamps
1452. # [12:31] <edmorley> there's also an api :-) https://treestatus.mozilla.org/help
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1458. # [12:39] <nl> Hi guys, could someone help me with profiling C++ code in firefox on windows
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1460. # [12:39] <nl> i'm reading article https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Performance/Profiling_with_the_Built-in_Profiler but having problems with it
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1462. # [12:42] <Gijs> edmorley: thanks!
1463. # [12:43] <Gijs> nl: detailing the kind of problems you're having will help people help you.
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1467. # [12:50] <nl> Gijs: i need to check how fast/slow one method in MetroWidget.cpp code
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1471. # [12:51] <nl> Giks: i'm making a new method for navigator that will be available in the js side. And I need to compare its performance with some other navigator method, e.g. method Online
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1480. # [12:57] <Gijs> nl: ok. And where are you getting stuck?
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1485. # [12:59] <nl> Gijs: i got symb server setup and also installed profiler extension
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1490. # [12:59] <nl> Gijs: but i can't find how can i check performance of specific method
1491. # [12:59] <nl> Gijs: is it done via profiler extension UI ?
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1493. # [13:03] <Gijs> nl: yes. It generates a profile and then you look at it through the UI that it links to (cleopatra)
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1496. # [13:05] <nl> Gijs: where generated profile can be found ?
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1506. # [13:14] <Gijs> nl: click the "analyze" button in the profiler UI?
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1546. # [13:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: sorry have to close fx-team again..xpc bustage
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1549. # [13:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> doing the backout now
1550. # [14:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> victorporof: ^
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1558. # [14:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38cb01168c32 - Dave Hunt - Bug 963299 - Bump marionette_client version to 0.7.3. r=mdas
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1560. # [14:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a801fc05819 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 959958 - Implement ImageData constructor. r=bz
1561. # [14:07] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: 's OK. :)
1562. # [14:07] * Gijs isn't landing anything else
1563. # [14:07] <Gijs> (at least, not for now)
1564. # [14:09] <till> bsmedberg: ping
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1571. # [14:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning RyanVM
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1573. # [14:15] <RyanVM> hi
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1604. # [14:35] <nl> Gijs: hey, about profiling - i looked at profiling results in UI but i wasn't able to find methods i need in this list
1605. # [14:36] <nl> Gijs: putting method names into the filter field didn't help
1606. # [14:36] <Gijs> nl: you need to run code that exercises the methods while the profiler is running...
1607. # [14:36] <nl> Gijs: yes, i did
1608. # [14:36] <Gijs> nl: did you uncheck the "JS only" checkbox or whatever it is?
1609. # [14:37] <nl> Gijs: yes, sure
1610. # [14:37] <Gijs> then I don't know. Maybe the methods you run are very quick?
1611. # [14:38] <Gijs> nl: did you adjust the sampling interval to be 1ms instead of 10ms ?
1612. # [14:38] <nl> Gijs: nope, i didn't did any adjustment
1613. # [14:38] <Gijs> nl: then that would be a thing to try
1614. # [14:38] <Gijs> it's in the options of the profiler UI somewhere...
1615. # [14:39] <nl> Gijs: ok, will try it
1616. # [14:39] <nl> Gijs: thx
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1625. # [14:51] <Dwight_Stegall> firebot: browser.tabs.remote
1626. # [14:51] <firebot> Dwight_Stegall: Sorry, I've no idea what 'browser.tabs.remote' might be.
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1650. # [15:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/235034a27f3c - Dan Glastonbury - Bug 953221 - Disable glDrawBuffer/glReadBuffer when no color attachment. r=bjacob
1651. # [15:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/59c788a177d2 - Dan Glastonbury - Bug 953221 - Split out DRAW_BUFFER/READ_BUFFER state setup. r=bjacob
1652. # [15:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3fcffaa2a46d - Ali Akhtarzada - Bug 961713 - Implement GrallocImage::GetAsSourceSurface. r=nical
1653. # [15:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d1fd4b1fdaa - Haitao Feng - Bug 947711 - Introduce MIRType_Float32x4, MIRType_Int32x4 and MIRType_Doublex2. r=nbp
1654. # [15:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef07214e11ff - Dan Glastonbury - Bug 953221 - GLenum to C string helper. r=bjacob
1655. # [15:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/722a19e76517 - Dan Glastonbury - Bug 953221 - Minor erroneous complete check fails. r=bjacob
1656. # [15:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a7b4c02f2f8 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 964078. r=roc
1657. # [15:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6589f6ec3b6e - Ali Akhtarzada - Bug 961715 - Implement D3D9SurfaceImage::GetAsSourceSurface. r=nical
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1677. # [15:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97f07ad30dad - Jan de Mooij - Bug 959597 part 1 - ARM simulator build changes. r=glandium
1678. # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe720ff03f43 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 959597 part 2 - Use JS_CODEGEN_* instead of JS_CPU_* for JIT backend code. r=nbp
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1695. # [15:48] <till> past: thank you!
1696. # [15:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1243b40c5da1 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 957593 - part 1 - eliminate TX_MATCH_CHAR; r=peterv
1697. # [15:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f52e4fe3cf77 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 957593 - part 2 - implement txXSLTNumber::isAlphaNumeric with binary search for a codesize win; r=peterv
1698. # [15:49] <past> till: :-)
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1706. # [15:52] <till> past: you can reproduce that with a debug build from current inbound?
1707. # [15:53] <past> till: current fx-team to be precise
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1709. # [15:53] <till> past: ah, ok. I'll try with inbound first
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1760. # [16:23] <nemo> Ms2ger: fun with css gradients http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase363.xhtml
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1762. # [16:23] <nemo> Ms2ger: http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase364.xhtml ditto
1763. # [16:23] <nemo> 30s cycle
1764. # [16:23] <Ms2ger> Oh, css gradients still exist?
1765. # [16:23] <nemo> :-p
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1767. # [16:24] <Ms2ger> By the time they were unprefixed, the fad had already gone
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1769. # [16:24] <nemo> Ms2ger: well oddly, unprefixed in chrome, still not common. half the folks in #css couldn't see it
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1771. # [16:24] <nemo> Ms2ger: eh. lots of useful stuff for gradients, if not overused
1772. # [16:24] <nemo> Ms2ger: in this case the gradient is more just to add a bit of variety to the keyframe
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1777. # [16:26] <philor> morning
1778. # [16:27] <philor> and a glorious morning for killing it is, too
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1780. # [16:27] <philor> nothing starts the day off right like rolling out of bed and wading right into the killing
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1782. # [16:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be76dc856482 - David Bolter - Bug 964546 - Add test for ignored roles. r=surkov
1783. # [16:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da8c61077b5a - Ali Akhtarzada - Bug 964745 - GetAsSourceSurface in SharedTextureImage and DeprecatedSharedRGBImage. r=nical
1784. # [16:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ad73fa1d8abb - Douglas Crosher - Bug 964005 - Odinmonkey (ARM): Include d15 in the callee saved registers. r=mjrosenb
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1787. # [16:30] <edmorley|sheriffduty> philor: good morning :-)
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1789. # [16:31] <jld> Today I learned about the V8 ARM simulator (bug 959597).
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1812. # [16:41] <mkaply> What's the purpose of ww.getNewPrompter versus simply calling Services.prompt.alert with no window?
1813. # [16:42] <Ms2ger> Sometimes, when a man and XPCOM love each other very much...
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1815. # [16:43] <froydnj> w00, tests not being scheduled, now nobody will notice when I break things
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1817. # [16:44] <Ms2ger> Hmm, I can't tell if froydnj has passing tests
1818. # [16:44] <Ms2ger> I should back him out
1819. # [16:44] <froydnj> nooo
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1833. # [16:51] <@bsmedberg> till: pong
1834. # [16:52] <@bsmedberg> mkaply: the dialog will be parented to the proper window
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1837. # [16:54] <mkaply> bsmedberg: but getNewPrompter can take a null window as well. Does it try harder to find the right window?
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1839. # [16:54] <mkaply> Just wondering why some FF code uses one versus the other (sidebar.js versus metro/sidebar.js)
1840. # [16:54] <@bsmedberg> mkaply: if you pass a window, it will use it
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1843. # [16:54] <@bsmedberg> I suspect it doesn't matter as much for metro because there aren't multiple windows
1844. # [16:54] <@bsmedberg> but I don't know
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1846. # [16:55] <mkaply> I never thought about that. So Metro is the same situation as Fennec
1847. # [16:55] <@bsmedberg> also an alert with no parent won't block any parent window, which is occasionally what you'd want, I think
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1849. # [16:55] <@bsmedberg> I'm now mostly making stuff up based on experience from 4 years ago
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1852. # [16:56] <mkaply> Although nowadays, an alert with no parent window errors in a lot of cases.
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1859. # [17:00] <RyanVM> bgrins: you've got real-looking mochitest-bc timeouts on fx-team
1860. # [17:00] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=33692153&tree=Fx-Team
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1868. # [17:03] <bgrins> RyanVM: hrm, I'm not sure how it could be related to that push, let me check locally
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1874. # [17:04] <RyanVM> bgrins: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Fx-Team&jobname=mochitest-browser-chrome
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1886. # [17:12] <bgrins> RyanVM: It is related to about:accounts not showing up. If I had to guess it would be: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/a4f31914bb0c.
1887. # [17:12] <RyanVM> bgrins: yeah, ed got it
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1889. # [17:13] <till> bsmedberg: hey, is there anything I can do to make the Status Board emails not be caught by Postini's spam filter?
1890. # [17:13] <@bsmedberg> That's a great question
1891. # [17:13] <till> bsmedberg: whitelisting the domain or sender doesn't help
1892. # [17:13] <@bsmedberg> till: what is the "From" and "Sender" header on the email you're getting?
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1894. # [17:14] <till> bsmedberg: Sender is "weekly-updates@smedbergs.us", From is the email of whoever updated their status
1895. # [17:15] <@bsmedberg> hrm, maybe if I change the "From" it will work
1896. # [17:15] <@bsmedberg> till: is this an @mozilla.com From?
1897. # [17:15] <till> bsmedberg: yes
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1900. # [17:16] <@bsmedberg> I think that the DNS record restricts things
1901. # [17:16] <@bsmedberg> and the spec about Sender/From isn't very good
1902. # [17:16] <@bsmedberg> it really should restrict based on Sender, but instead it restricts based on From
1903. # [17:16] <@bsmedberg> I might be able to fix it
1904. # [17:16] <till> that would be great
1905. # [17:16] <till> about half of the status updates I receive end up in quarantine
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1933. # [17:34] <sewardj> mjrosenb: ping
1934. # [17:34] <mjrosenb> sewardj: pong.
1935. # [17:36] <sewardj> mjrosenb: I'm seeing zillions of these: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4121208
1936. # [17:36] <sewardj> mjrosenb: have you seen it before?
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1939. # [17:36] <sewardj> mjrosenb: and I reckon i wasn't seeing them a week ago
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1944. # [17:37] <sewardj> mjrosenb: that said, a quick read of js::jit::Imm8::encodeImm(unsigned int) doesn't show any obvious errors
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1948. # [17:37] <mjrosenb> sewardj: that change hasn't changed in a while.
1949. # [17:38] <sewardj> mjrosenb: -ENOPARSE. You mean, that function?
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1951. # [17:39] <sewardj> hmm, so it hasn't.
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1953. # [17:39] <mkaply> Firefox could not install the search plugin from "resource://search-test-phase-1-at-mozilla-dot-com/search-test-phase-1/data/us/bing-us-standard.xml" because an engine with the same name already exists.
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1955. # [17:40] <mjrosenb> sewardj: can you find the instructions near where it is happening?
1956. # [17:40] <@gavin> gregglind_sick: ^
1957. # [17:40] * mkaply wonders why Firefox is trying to install Bing on me.
1958. # [17:40] <@gavin> mkaply: on which channel?
1959. # [17:40] <sewardj> mjrosenb: I'll have a dig around. Could be a couple of minutes.
1960. # [17:40] <mkaply> gavin: release
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1962. # [17:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4cd2059e557f - Paul Adenot - Bug 961787 - Buffer more data when using MediaElementAudioSourceNode / mozCaptureStream from a media decoder. r=roc
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1967. # [17:42] <whimboo> ttaubert: wohoo! you are our hero! :)
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1969. # [17:45] <mjrosenb> sewardj: uhh, in your build what function is at js/src/../../js/src/jit/arm/Assembler-arm.h:466?
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1972. # [17:46] <sewardj> mjrosenb: is the JS_ASSERT(!invalid) in Imm8mData::encode
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1974. # [17:46] <sewardj> mjrosenb: I suspect this is a bug in V triggered by the bitfields. Investigating.
1975. # [17:46] <ttaubert> whimboo: I hope that fixes all the other issue as well :)
1976. # [17:46] <sewardj> mjrosenb: difference between now and before is, I am running a debug build now.
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1978. # [17:47] <whimboo> ttaubert: yeah. fingers crossed. we will be able to report that with the next nightly after landing
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1980. # [17:47] <whimboo> ttaubert: we got dozen of crashes a day at the moment
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1982. # [17:49] <till> TIL that sewardj lives in Hamburg, too
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1984. # [17:49] <ttaubert> till: I thought he lives in southern germany?
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1987. # [17:49] <ttaubert> sewardj: did you move to hamburg?
1988. # [17:49] <till> ttaubert: not according to the JS Work Week's wiki page ;)
1989. # [17:49] <sewardj> ttaubert: not as far as I know
1990. # [17:50] <ttaubert> heh
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1992. # [17:50] <sewardj> ttaubert: Stuttgart
1993. # [17:50] <ttaubert> yeah, I just remembered
1994. # [17:50] <till> huh
1995. # [17:50] <till> sewardj: maybe someone just said "well, it's both Germany, how far away can it be?" and put Hamburg in for both of us
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1997. # [17:51] <Ms2ger> Heh
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1999. # [17:51] <ttaubert> quite likely
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2002. # [17:52] <@gavin> only 650km
2003. # [17:52] <till> see?
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2005. # [17:52] <ttaubert> :)
2006. # [17:52] <till> also, that work week will bring together 37 people living in 23 different places
2007. # [17:52] * till is impressed
2008. # [17:52] <sewardj> till: interesting :-)
2009. # [17:53] <ttaubert> till: are you in SF?
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2012. # [17:53] <efaust> till: /are/ you in SF?
2013. # [17:53] <till> ttaubert, efaust: I will be next week
2014. # [17:53] <till> Shumway work week
2015. # [17:53] <efaust> ah
2016. # [17:53] <efaust> c.c
2017. # [17:53] <till> after that: six weeks New Zealand \o/
2018. # [17:53] <ttaubert> till: ah. thought you're part of the huge work week this week maybe
2019. # [17:54] <till> ttaubert: no. But aren't you?
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2021. # [17:54] <ttaubert> till: nice :)
2022. # [17:54] <ttaubert> till: yeah I'm in sf
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2026. # [17:54] <sewardj> ttaubert: you left Berlin?
2027. # [17:54] <ttaubert> sewardj: only temporarily
2028. # [17:54] <till> ttaubert: but the work week is so large that you didn't even see all participants yet? ;)
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2031. # [17:55] <ttaubert> till: yeah, I'm not part of *that* work week so I didn't see everyone
2032. # [17:55] <till> ah! :)
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2042. # [17:59] <sewardj> mjrosenb: it's an epically screwy bit of assembly. I bet it confuses memcheck's definedness tracking somehow:https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4121383
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2048. # [18:00] <mjrosenb> sewardj: yeah, the debug,non-opt assembly looks pretty screwy.
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2051. # [18:01] <BigBro> clear
2052. # [18:01] <sewardj> mjrosenb: this is debug and -O.
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2062. # [18:02] <mjrosenb> sewardj: ahahahah. yeah, that is awful.
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2078. # [18:07] <mjrosenb> sewardj: it looks like it is relying on the fact that a cmp with 0 sets the sign bit based on a single bit of the register.
2079. # [18:07] <@ted> this dev.platform post "programmatically refresh FF 24 browser" is terrifying
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2082. # [18:09] <till> ted: yes!
2083. # [18:09] <evilpie> answer: NO!
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2085. # [18:09] <evilpie> (nsCOMPtr<nsISimpleEnumerator>&) what
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2087. # [18:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/535d21847e39 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 963829 - Include CSS/SVG transformations when calculating OFFSCREEN state. r=roc
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2091. # [18:13] <@ted> "here's a bunch of code that pokes at gecko internals" NO STOP DOING THAT
2092. # [18:13] <sewardj> mjrosenb: sounds plausible. The V x86/x64 jit pipeline has logic to deal with that exact case.
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2102. # [18:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c3303aa3d40 - Asaf Romano - Bug 896193 - Adopt Promises in mozIAsyncLivemarks. r=mak. sr=gavin.
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2106. # [18:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50cfbf3d30de - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 957926 - Add JS::CreateTypeError. r=jorendorff
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2114. # [18:22] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: Services.prompt uses xpcom :-P
2115. # [18:23] <NeilAway> mkaply: ww is an embedding interface, Services.prompt is an implementation detail
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2121. # [18:23] <mkaply> NeilAway: is there a guideline when to use one versus the other?
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2123. # [18:24] <NeilAway> mkaply: use Services.prompt if you're calling it directly, ww.getNewPrompter if you need it indirectly e.g. for notification callbacks
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2125. # [18:25] <mkaply> NeilAway: this came up in some new search patch. Comparing http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/sidebar/nsSidebar.js#51 to http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/metro/components/Sidebar.js#65
2126. # [18:26] <NeilAway> mkaply: nsSidebar.js was written way before Services.prompt existed
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2128. # [18:26] <mkaply> I bet these cases of ww.getNewPrompter were missed when we did the big "Move everything to Services" patch.
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2177. # [18:51] <till> gerv: ping
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2181. # [18:53] <@smaug> nouu, mi closed just when I'm about to land something
2182. # [18:53] <froydnj> it's telling you to go test your code :)
2183. # [18:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: if it makes you feel better, most trees are closed
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2199. # [19:01] <dmajor> ted: o_O
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2205. # [19:02] <benjamin> hmm, who would have thought mathml being synchronous is its killer feature
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2218. # [19:05] <gerv> till: on a call; email me :-)
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2221. # [19:05] <@ted> dmajor: makes you want to find their application and see how much it shows up in crash-stats :-P
2222. # [19:05] <till> gerv: ok. Might actually do that tomorrow, then
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2237. # [19:13] <@ted> froydnj++ (bug 938157)
2238. # [19:14] <froydnj> ted: :D
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2243. # [19:15] <froydnj> my work here is done
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2245. # [19:16] <jwalden> ooh, this sounds good
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2248. # [19:16] <jwalden> indeed it is
2249. # [19:16] <@ted> froydnj: too bad we already used mfbt :-P
2250. # [19:17] <froydnj> heh
2251. # [19:18] <froydnj> backtraces on a plane!
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2265. # [19:24] <bbouvier> how do we close a bug, when it works but we don't know which bug fixed it? RESOLVED WORKSFORME?
2266. # [19:24] <Ms2ger> Yes
2267. # [19:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bbouvier: congrats on the job, btw :)
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2350. # [20:02] <bjacob> who maintains the preferences API ?
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2353. # [20:03] <froydnj> bjacob: no one
2354. # [20:03] <bz> Is there a way to force bzexport to post the patch even if I have local changes in my working dir?
2355. # [20:03] <@roc> Hilarious recruiting fail: "Hi Robert, We came across your contributions to the SDL project and wanted to see if you would be interested in an position here at Fitbit within embedded graphic design."
2356. # [20:03] * armenzg_brb is now known as armenzg
2357. # [20:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> niiiice
2358. # [20:04] <bjacob> froydnj: whom should i complain to, if i think that it should allow read-only access from non-main-threads?
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2360. # [20:04] <@roc> needless to say I've never contributed to SDL
2361. # [20:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> roc: did you know that I'm one of the most prolific coders in the mozilla project? At least, that's what they tell me.
2362. # [20:04] <bjacob> roc: it's in case you would in the future
2363. # [20:04] <froydnj> bjacob: you could try complaining to bsmedberg
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2365. # [20:04] <bjacob> bsmedberg: i would like to complain to you
2366. # [20:04] <@bsmedberg> hah
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2370. # [20:05] <jdm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: :D
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2372. # [20:05] <bjacob> bsmedberg: how bad would it be to allow non-main-threads read-only access to preferences, with the understanding that if the pref is being modified at the same time, there is no guarantee as to whether you get the old or the new value?
2373. # [20:05] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: you have deleted *tons* of code!
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2375. # [20:05] <bjacob> (the only guarantee is that you get either)
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2377. # [20:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: yeah, I figured it was either that or they go off the pusher email address instead of the patch author
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2381. # [20:06] <@roc> "Hi Ryan. We came across your deletions of Mozilla code and wanted to see if you would be interested in deleting our code at Fitbit."
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2384. # [20:07] <bjacob> bsmedberg: if string prefs are tricky, i'm ok to leave them out, bool and integer prefs are all i need most of the time
2385. # [20:07] <@bsmedberg> bjacob: it would require locking pretty deeply. In general we've tried hard to remove threaded pref usage.
2386. # [20:07] <froydnj> bjacob: what's wrong with pref var caches?
2387. # [20:08] <mjschranz_away> roc: Are there any conditions behind just deleting code? Because I could SO delete code and commit it. I'm your man.
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2393. # [20:09] <bjacob> bsmedberg: froydnj: our typical problem in gfx is we have code that needs to access prefs, and could run on any thread (namely: GLContext). To achieve that, we have these prefs read on startup on the main thread. That is bad because 1) it's more complex 2) it removes nice code locality as many prefs are only needed by one piece of code and 3) it moves more work to main thread startup for no good reason
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2395. # [20:10] <Ms2ger> roc, ha
2396. # [20:11] <bjacob> bsmedberg: it's also not clear to me why read-only access to an integer value should require locking
2397. # [20:11] <@bsmedberg> because it's in a hashtable...
2398. # [20:11] <@khuey> roc++
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2400. # [20:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> roc: :D
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2402. # [20:12] <jwalden> could depend what value you want to get out of it wrt concurrent mutations, I'd think
2403. # [20:12] <bz> roc++
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2407. # [20:12] <jwalden> oh, that sounds fun (not)
2408. # [20:12] <jhopkins> vlad: is rstrong in today?
2409. # [20:13] <@bsmedberg> bjacob: it's not clear to me why low-level stuff like GLContext would need to read prefs in the first place
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2412. # [20:13] <gcp> I'm sure many people would be thrilled if off-main-thread reading of prefs would be possible
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2414. # [20:13] <gcp> it makes using prefs way easier
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2418. # [20:13] <Ms2ger> roc, "Hi Robert, I came across your name in my textbook and wanted to see if you would be interested in going my homework here at Fitbit."
2419. # [20:13] <@bsmedberg> is this actual user preferences which might change during runtime?
2420. # [20:13] <bjacob> bsmedberg: about hashtables: ok, you know better than me ; about why low-level code uses prefs: think debugging/development helpers
2421. # [20:13] <gcp> bsmedberg: we use prefs to make experimental features easier to backout etc
2422. # [20:14] <@bsmedberg> yeah, that might be part of the problem. We've overloaded preferences a lot.
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2424. # [20:14] <bjacob> bsmedberg: some could change during runtime, yes. Though it's not too bad to require a browser restart, for most of them.
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2426. # [20:15] <@bsmedberg> I tend to think that doing this once at startup would be better in any case. Then you don't have to have any locking anywhere.
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2428. # [20:16] <bjacob> bsmedberg: let me show you how it complicates things for us
2429. # [20:16] <bjacob> bsmedberg: i just r-'d this patch because it would read a pref off the main thread: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=963839
2430. # [20:17] <bjacob> bsmedberg: the author needs to do something like what we have in this file: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/thebes/gfxPlatform.cpp#301
2431. # [20:18] <bjacob> bsmedberg: so now, instead of one hunk in one file, he has hunks in multiple directories. Less code locality --> harder to understand codebase
2432. # [20:18] <bjacob> bsmedberg: if locking is the only issue, i've heard (but I'm no expert) that there exist lock-free hashtables
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2441. # [20:24] <froydnj> bjacob: how does that gfxPlatform example show something problematic?
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2443. # [20:25] <bjacob> bsmedberg: i'm also not sure what the problem with locking is, here: the lock would be held only for a very small amount of time by each caller
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2447. # [20:28] <zwol> ISTR a patch of mine that bounced in and out of the repo several times because we had circular dependencies between gfxPlatform and prefs
2448. # [20:28] <zwol> at startup
2449. # [20:28] <bjacob> froydnj: because the prefs read by gfxplatform are not used by gfxplatform. GfxPlatform here is just a proxy for reading prefs on the main thread and exposing their values to other threads. It's gratuitous complexity.
2450. # [20:28] <zwol> it was not fun
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2453. # [20:28] <bjacob> zwol: give me the bug number, that sounds like it makes my point very well
2454. # [20:28] <zwol> bjacob: hang on, i'll see if i can dig it up
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2456. # [20:29] <bjacob> froydnj: the pieces of code actually using these prefs are not even in the same directory
2457. # [20:29] <tbsaunde> bjacob: well, it means you can't put a bound on how long the main thread might take to get the lock
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2460. # [20:29] <bjacob> tbsaunde: why not? is there no bound on how long it can take to read one pref?
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2462. # [20:30] <froydnj> bjacob: so the other "pref-using" code has to call accessors on gfxPlatform instead of specifying pref names? that doesn't sound like a bad outcome
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2465. # [20:30] <tbsaunde> bjacob: I'm not sure
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2468. # [20:31] <bjacob> froydnj: i think it is bad. it makes code harder to read because you have to look at multiple places. it causes trouble for people dealing with that code as zwol just gave an example of
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2470. # [20:31] <tbsaunde> bjacob: but you can't know it'll only be one other thread with first shot at the lock
2471. # [20:31] <zwol> bjacob: 651017 and 651498
2472. # [20:31] <bjacob> tbsaunde: then we have that problem even more today, as currently _all_ the pref reading is blocking the main thread
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2474. # [20:32] <bjacob> tbsaunde: ah, that. If that is biting us, then we could look into lock-free hash tables, couldn't we? but of course, not until we know that that is our problem.
2475. # [20:32] <tbsaunde> bjacob: sure, but we have somewhat better control over where
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2477. # [20:33] <tbsaunde> bjacob: it seems like it would be simpler to have something other than prefs that can't change while ff runs
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2479. # [20:34] <tbsaunde> froydnj: it does seem kind of silly to have code that just accesses prefs once and then stores the data again, but meh
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2482. # [20:35] <bjacob> tbsaunde: there are use cases where we do need the ability to change them at runtime; example: paint flashing, fps counter, other rendering helpers
2483. # [20:35] <Ms2ger> This sounds like the kind of thing where rust would have you say unsafe {} all over
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2485. # [20:36] <@roc> how about adding some infrastructure to Preferences that's like Add*VarCache but lets the result be used off the main thread with some locking?
2486. # [20:36] <bjacob> roc: could i make that Add*VarCache call on non-main-thread?
2487. # [20:37] <@roc> no you'd have to set it up on the main thread.
2488. # [20:37] <bjacob> roc: then that doesn't solve my primary problem
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2490. # [20:38] <@roc> why not?
2491. # [20:39] <@roc> can't you have a static Compositor::InitOnMainThread method that gfxPlatform calls which sets up these things?
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2494. # [20:39] <bjacob> roc: that is basically the current situation, which i am complaining about :)
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2496. # [20:40] <tbsaunde> bjacob: so, another issue is that if you use var caches or observers then we do very little work if nobody changes the pref you care about, if you do look free lookups in a hash table that's likely a lot more work
2497. # [20:40] <bjacob> roc: i am complaining about how simple things that should be self-contained in 1 hunk require multiple hunks over different subdirs of gfx
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2499. # [20:41] <zwol> and i am complaining about how it makes startup ordering a headache
2500. # [20:42] <bjacob> tbsaunde: it's ok, the pieces of code that need to read these prefs are far more expensive than that
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2502. # [20:43] <tbsaunde> bjacob: sure, but your making the main thread do work where it wouldn't today
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2510. # [20:45] <bjacob> tbsaunde: good point, so, let's keep separate things separate: how about i only ask for off-main-thread plain pref reads, and don't ask for var-caches and observers, for now
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2513. # [20:45] <bjacob> (that would already cover the bulk of my use cases)
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2521. # [20:46] <efaust> do we have a rough ETA on tree reopenings within an order of magnitude? Are we talking "try again tomorrow" or "give us until lunch"?
2522. # [20:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> efaust: no ETA :(
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2524. # [20:47] <@roc> bjacob: your current situation doesn't sound that bad TBH
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2527. # [20:47] <efaust> RyanVM|sheriffduty: OK, thanks :/
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2529. # [20:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> efaust: it's top priority for releng/IT, but there aren't any forthcoming answers :(
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2532. # [20:47] <Ms2ger> efaust, "upload your patch to the bug and set checkin-needed" ;)
2533. # [20:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: boooo
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2537. # [20:48] <tbsaunde> bjacob: no, my point is that for the main thread its better that you use observers or var caches than you have off main thread pref reads
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2543. # [20:48] <@roc> bjacob: you need one line in some central place (gfxPlatform maybe) to call into init-on-main-thread code, one per component. Then each component can locally set up the prefs it needs mirrored.
2544. # [20:48] <bjacob> roc: it's one of the most recurrent sources of r-'s in gfx, happened again today in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=963839
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2547. # [20:49] <efaust> Ms2ger: "let RyanVM|sheriffduty deal with it. It's his fault anyway"
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2550. # [20:49] <Ms2ger> efaust, nah, I was thinking to make the amazon folks do c-n :)
2551. # [20:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger++
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2553. # [20:49] <efaust> RyanVM|sheriffduty: OK, thanks for the update. I figured we had Top People on the project.
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2555. # [20:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> we do
2556. # [20:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it's all hands on deck
2557. # [20:50] <bjacob> tbsaunde: we should defer performance talk until we have any idea of how much time we're spending accessing prefs
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2560. # [20:50] <@roc> bjacob: well, no. That patch was r-ed for using main-thread-only APIs. that's not going to change.
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2566. # [20:50] <bjacob> roc: the conversation here is about whether that part of the prefs API really needs to be main thread only
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2568. # [20:51] <bjacob> roc: do you see a fundamental reason why it needs to?
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2574. # [20:51] <@roc> yes, it will stop people accidentally getting racy off-main-thread semantics
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2577. # [20:52] <@roc> the conversation here included " am complaining about how simple things that should be self-contained in 1 hunk require multiple hunks over different subdirs of gfx" which I think is a minimal problem
2578. # [20:53] <@roc> if you structure the code the way I suggested
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2582. # [20:55] <bjacob> roc: that is the structure that we currently have; it keeps confusing people (like zwol here, and even long-term contributors like on the bug I linked) and is one of the things we inevitably have to teach each new contributor at some point.
2583. # [20:55] <bjacob> (i mean long term contributors to gfx --- no offense, zwol ;-) )
2584. # [20:55] <@roc> whatever you do you'd still need to teach people that reading prefs off-main-thread is racy. Simply concealing that fact would be bad.
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2595. # [20:57] <vingtetun> ted: hey, just want to make sure you are the right reviewer for bug 962044 ?
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2598. # [20:57] <zwol> I kinda agree with roc about the "multiple hunks" part - but my idea of what's a messy patch is probably way over in outlier land - but I don't agree about the "it's okay to just read a bunch of prefs upon gfxPlatform::Init" part.l
2599. # [20:57] <bjacob> roc: racy does not matter if the tolerance for "at what time the preference that you query is actually read" is high enough, which I think it is in the case of preferences. Who cares if they got the current value of a pref vs. the value it had a millisecond ago? Prefs are not for oft-changing data, anyway
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2601. # [20:58] <@ted> vingtetun: probably, since i wrote all that code
2602. # [20:58] <Ms2ger> bjacob, how about half the previous and half the new value?
2603. # [20:58] <zwol> Doing that was precisely what caused circular startup dependencies in 651017 and it's probably not the only time it's gonna blow up on people
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2605. # [20:58] <bjacob> Ms2ger: that would be bad. But reading integers atomically is a solved problem...
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2609. # [20:59] <bjacob> Ms2ger: note I said above (for that exact reason) that I was OK to leave out non-integer prefs
2610. # [20:59] <vingtetun> ted: ok cool. if got a r? from gal on bug 961769 but if you want to have a look please don't hesitate as well as you may know this code better.
2611. # [20:59] <vingtetun> thanks
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2619. # [21:00] <@roc> bjacob: it's OK for some prefs but not others. In places we have sets of prefs that should be set together.
2620. # [21:00] <@ted> okay
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2625. # [21:00] <bjacob_afk_15_min> roc: ah... i didnt know that
2626. # [21:00] <Ms2ger> roc, (which one could argue is somewhat wacky)
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2631. # [21:05] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: sure, but its still bad to make people figure out they might not always be consistant
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2680. # [21:31] <jwalden> hmm, so I guess m.d.i18n is sort of abandoned these days, if the groups stuff indicates actual activity levels?
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2683. # [21:32] <jwalden> !seen jfkthame
2684. # [21:32] <firebot> jfkthame was last seen 24 hours, 30 minutes and 18 seconds ago, saying 'fredw, the spec has just been submitted for standardization, btw, so it'd be good to bring up issues where it's unclear and ask for better explanations' in #gfx.
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2687. # [21:34] <jld> ted: Can breakpad unwind through a signal trampoline? I'd tend to assume not? (Other than by stack scanning and not hitting a false positive first.)
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2689. # [21:35] <@ted> jld: i...don't know?
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2691. # [21:35] <@ted> it only knows how to do CFI-based unwinding, framepointer-based unwinding, and stack scanning
2692. # [21:36] <jld> ted: So, probably no. (gdb can't either.)
2693. # [21:36] <froydnj> I've seen gdb unwind through signal handlers before...
2694. # [21:37] <jld> froydnj: On Linux/ARM?
2695. # [21:37] <froydnj> oh, maybe not on linux/arm
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2699. # [21:39] <jld> It might "just work" if you're using an ABI with frame pointers.
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2702. # [21:39] <froydnj> this was on x86-64, though, with no frame pointers
2703. # [21:39] <jld> Huh.
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2716. # [21:46] <zwol> jld: gcc knows how to generate CFI for signal frames on at least some architectures.
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2721. # [21:47] <zwol> or possibly I mean "the unwinder in libsupc++, which gdb uses on at least some architectures, knows how to unwind through signal frames on at least some (overlapping set of) architectures"
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2723. # [21:48] <jld> zwol: This is also a problem that wouldn't be a problem if a certain method in breakpad weren't private, among other things.
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2725. # [21:49] <vlad> jhopkins: no idea -- we're not in the same office. he's around though, I would send him mail
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2727. # [21:50] <jhopkins> vlad: ok thanks. already done
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2729. # [21:54] <rstrong> jhopkins: I have a meeting at 1 that will likely go until 2 and another short meeting at 2. Can you do 2:30?
2730. # [21:55] <jhopkins> rstrong: i could do that today, though earlier in the day would be better if possible
2731. # [21:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> rstrong: were you going to land the nsis patch soon?
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2733. # [21:55] <jld> ...oh wait. This is *always* "out of process".
2734. # [21:56] <rstrong> RyanVM|sheriffduty: it is not as critical today as when I wrote the patch so I am going to hold off. Likely until the next MozillaBuild release.
2735. # [21:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ok
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2738. # [21:57] <rstrong> jhopkins: I an push my 2 PM meeting out but not the 1 PM meeting so let's do 2 PM
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2742. # [21:58] <jhopkins> ok
2743. # [21:59] <rstrong> jhopkins: if tomorrow works better I can do that
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2745. # [21:59] <jld> static const int kMagicChildCrashReportFd = 4;
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2747. # [21:59] <jhopkins> rstrong: no, today is fine
2748. # [22:00] <jld> I, um. Well okay. I guess that works.
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2750. # [22:00] <Ms2ger> jld, maaaaaaaaagic
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2776. # [22:10] <amoghbl1> Hey , how does someone start contributing to Firefox os ?
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2780. # [22:11] <Optimizer> the load event on docshell has target, originalTarget and explicitOriginalTarget . which one should I use
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2782. # [22:11] <Optimizer> ?
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2785. # [22:11] <nemo> hm. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/text-align-last says no webkit support
2786. # [22:12] <nemo> but when I hit the linked bug, I ended up on https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99439 which was closed back in 2012
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2789. # [22:12] <Optimizer> any docshell experts ?
2790. # [22:12] <nemo> sooo, going to assume wiki is out of date, which is not unusual I guess :)
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2792. # [22:12] <nemo> amoghbl1: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Introduction
2793. # [22:12] <KWierso> nemo: last edit was november 2013
2794. # [22:13] <nemo> amoghbl1: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-contribute-firefox-os
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2796. # [22:13] <nemo> 2012-11-11 to be specific
2797. # [22:13] <nemo> remembrance day
2798. # [22:13] <amoghbl1> Thanks nemo
2799. # [22:14] <nemo> np and I'm sure the devs would be appreciative if they were here :)
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2801. # [22:14] <wlach> amoghbl1: try joining #introduction
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2803. # [22:15] <amoghbl1> Thanks wlach
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2807. # [22:19] <Ms2ger> Optimizer, you're looking for bz
2808. # [22:20] <Optimizer> bz, I am looking for you
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2811. # [22:20] <froydnj> Ms2ger: I think you might have been the last person to patch docshell, therefore you win?
2812. # [22:20] <Ms2ger> froydnj, plausible
2813. # [22:20] <Ms2ger> r-
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2818. # [22:23] <Gijs> m-c is open but the integration trees and try are closed?
2819. # [22:23] * Gijs is confused
2820. # [22:24] <Ms2ger> You can land if you watch the tree for the next five hours? :)
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2824. # [22:25] <Optimizer> woot, fx-team merged to m-c
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2826. # [22:26] <sicking> smaug: Did you see the two bugs mentioned here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338583#c215
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2834. # [22:31] <zwol> jld: I've never looked at how breakpad works.
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2852. # [22:38] <jld> ...I think we have an |#ifndef XP_LINUX| inside an |#elif defined(XP_LINUX)|.
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2856. # [22:39] <@khuey> I love assertions
2857. # [22:39] <@khuey> they are amazing
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2859. # [22:39] <@khuey> we should give people cookies for adding them
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2861. # [22:39] <gw280> khuey: third party cookies?
2862. # [22:40] <nsm> we should also allow chrome JS to assert
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2870. # [22:46] <vlad> why does mq take 10 years to qrefresh/qrefresh -e ?
2871. # [22:47] <ttaubert> khuey: ping
2872. # [22:49] <seth> vlad: possibly related: why does "hg stat" take approximately a million years?
2873. # [22:49] <vlad> likely related, yeah
2874. # [22:49] <fabrice> vlad: do you have the inotify extension?
2875. # [22:49] <vlad> I'm on windows
2876. # [22:50] <dholbert> well there's your problem
2877. # [22:50] <dholbert> </troll>
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2879. # [22:50] <seth> *ba dum tshhh*
2880. # [22:50] <KWierso> qref -e doesn't take very long for me on windows...
2881. # [22:50] <vlad> how long is not very long?
2882. # [22:50] <vlad> I expect <1s
2883. # [22:50] <vlad> it takes 3-4s
2884. # [22:50] <KWierso> oh
2885. # [22:51] <vlad> you have stockholm syndrome :)
2886. # [22:51] <KWierso> guess I'm just more patient than you
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2889. # [22:53] <jhopkins> vlad: did you find more bug IDs re: 64-bit windows tests (action item in https://etherpad.mozilla.org/6MoC9HtyIE)
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2892. # [22:56] <@khuey> ttaubert: pong
2893. # [22:56] <jhopkins> rstrong: i'm in my vidyo room whenever you're ready
2894. # [22:57] <rstrong> jhopkins: hopefully wrapping up
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2903. # [22:59] <ttaubert> khuey: so I'm running into another issue with XHR. when shutting down the browser locks up. this only happens intermittently when a SyncTeardownRunnable calls Proxy::Teardown with mOutstandingSendCount=1. It looks like the refcount is one higher than usual for the XHR instance. any ideas?
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2906. # [22:59] <@khuey> ttaubert: ugh, I've debugged way too many of these
2907. # [23:00] <@khuey> ttaubert: so the runtime service is blocked waiting on the worker to shut down, and the worker is waiting on the XHR?
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2910. # [23:00] <ttaubert> khuey: maybe? I'm not very trained at debugging CC issues
2911. # [23:01] <@khuey> ttaubert: this isn't a CC issue, it's a worker shutdown issue
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2913. # [23:01] <@khuey> ttaubert: is there a reproducible testcase?
2914. # [23:01] <ttaubert> khuey: somewhat reproducible
2915. # [23:01] <@khuey> ok
2916. # [23:01] <@khuey> is it urgent?
2917. # [23:01] <@khuey> I can look into it next week
2918. # [23:01] <ttaubert> khuey: no, I was just thinking while I'm at it...
2919. # [23:02] <@khuey> the shutdown sequence here is quite fragile unfortunately :/
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2921. # [23:02] <@khuey> ttaubert: so we end up in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/workers/XMLHttpRequest.cpp#936
2922. # [23:02] <@khuey> ttaubert: do we send an XHRUnpinRunnable back to the worker?
2923. # [23:02] <ttaubert> khuey: ok. I'll see how far I can get and will file a bug for it
2924. # [23:02] <ttaubert> khuey: we should
2925. # [23:03] <@khuey> ttaubert: does it run?
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2927. # [23:03] <ttaubert> khuey: yes, Unpin is called
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2929. # [23:03] <ttaubert> refcount at unpin is usually 4 for the XHR
2930. # [23:03] <ttaubert> but in the hang case it's 5
2931. # [23:03] <@khuey> ttaubert: ok, interesting
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2933. # [23:03] <@khuey> what is the stack of the worker thread when we hang?
2934. # [23:04] <ttaubert> khuey: I will try to find that out later
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2937. # [23:05] <@khuey> ttaubert: ok
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2939. # [23:05] <@khuey> ttaubert: like I said, if you don't want to deal with it I can pick it up next week
2940. # [23:05] <@khuey> ttaubert: if you do want to, then great :)
2941. # [23:05] <@khuey> and happy to answer questions
2942. # [23:06] <ttaubert> khuey: ok. I will file a bug anyway. I like investigating that kind of stuff but I'm a little low on time currently ;)
2943. # [23:06] <@khuey> yeah, so say we all
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2949. # [23:09] <hrw> froydnj: xpcom submitted again after next wave of small changes. I hope that I am not over using your help.
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2953. # [23:10] <froydnj> hrw: not at all! thanks for being willing to go through several revisions of this
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2955. # [23:10] <hrw> froydnj: getting rid of that patch is what I am paid for ;D
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2957. # [23:11] <froydnj> hrw: ah, you work for linaro? or arm?
2958. # [23:11] <hrw> froydnj: Red Hat
2959. # [23:11] <hrw> froydnj: was Canonical/Linaro for 3 years
2960. # [23:11] <froydnj> hrw: cool, I didn't realize redhat was doing aarch64 stuff
2961. # [23:11] <hrw> froydnj: Canonical/Linaro == paid by Canonical to do Linaro work
2962. # [23:11] <hrw> froydnj: we do.
2963. # [23:12] <froydnj> yes, the business arrangements around linaro are...fun :)
2964. # [23:12] <hrw> froydnj: we are Linaro member as well
2965. # [23:12] <hrw> froydnj: I was one of first Linaro engineers.
2966. # [23:12] <hrw> froydnj: before it was named Linaro ;)
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2969. # [23:13] <hrw> froydnj: I would go for x86-64 code tomorrow for xptcstubs stuff as it is much cleaner
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2975. # [23:14] <hrw> froydnj: but last time I wrote something in c/c++ (or any other language) was last millenium (when it comes to software used by someone else than me not counting shell scripts)
2976. # [23:15] <hrw> froydnj: soon I will celebrate 10 years as 'build engineer' in several projects and distributions
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2980. # [23:16] <froydnj> hrw: my hat is off to you, then :)
2981. # [23:17] <hrw> froydnj: same from me as I prefer not to think how to manage projects bigger than 100KB of code ;D
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3000. # [23:24] <sicking> jduell: can we talk about "future necko" today? Or are you and mcmanus here tomorrow too?
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3003. # [23:25] <jduell> sicking: we're both here tomorrow, but we could probably do it today
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3005. # [23:26] <jduell> sicking: which future necko bits are you talking about, BTW? The cache stuff or something else?
3006. # [23:26] <sicking> jduell: up to you, probably want bz as well, not sure who else
3007. # [23:27] <sicking> jduell: i think i'd like to bring up "things that i wish necko did for me". Off-main-thread access is one. Some security improvements is another. e10s is another.
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3009. # [23:27] <sicking> jduell: i bet others from the DOM team has wants too
3010. # [23:28] <jduell> sicking: so you're here just today and tomorrow?
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3053. # [23:50] <jorendorff> I'd like to find a Mozilla person in SF who has Dominion, the card game.
3054. # [23:50] <jorendorff> just because it'd be fun to play, while i'm in town for the jst work week
3055. # [23:50] <dholbert> jorendorff, #sf may be useful
3056. # [23:50] <jorendorff> hey
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3058. # [23:51] <jorendorff> that is a good idea
3059. # [23:51] <dholbert> jorendorff, (I have heard good things about that game)
3060. # [23:51] <jorendorff> oh it is so great
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3063. # [23:53] <shu> is it about the south?
3064. # [23:53] <shu> oh it is not
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3068. # [23:54] <jesup> glandium: ping
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3071. # [23:55] <glandium> jesup: pong
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