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  28. # [00:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82937a8ffe75 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 963373 - Update cursor after scroll. r=yzen
  29. # [00:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/433156cf1eda - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 964514 - Add dialog to output generator. r=yzen
  30. # [00:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/49e73a6d4c06 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 964534 - Move cursor to new dialog if focus does not change the cursor first. r=yzen
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  36. # [00:12] <dholbert> bz, for that display:none animation bug -- would it make sense for nsAnimationManager to have an extra category of "lazily computed animations", all of which which we sample on getComputedStyle()?
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  38. # [00:12] <dholbert> bz, most of the time, I'd expect that category to be empty, so getComputedStyle wouldn't be any more expensive in the normal case
  39. # [00:12] <annevk> nsm: yo
  40. # [00:12] <nsm> annevk: Notification.get() needs to be better defined if Notifications are going to be in workers
  41. # [00:13] <dholbert> bz, but for things in a 'display:none' tree, we could put them in this bucket and potentially save ourselves from needing refresh driver ticks, at the cost of some lazy evaluation when getComputedStyle() runs
  42. # [00:13] <annevk> nsm: hmm okay
  43. # [00:13] <dholbert> (s/when/if/)
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  45. # [00:13] <annevk> nsm: file a bug?
  46. # [00:13] <nsm> ok
  47. # [00:13] <nsm> on w3c?
  48. # [00:13] <annevk> https://github.com/whatwg/notifications/issues/new
  49. # [00:14] <bz> dholbert: worksforme
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  51. # [00:14] <bz> dholbert: we could even only sample if the last sample was more than 16ms in the past or something
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  54. # [00:15] <bz> dholbert: Also, maybe we can just get the spec to spec that there is no animation at all here, as in Chrome...
  55. # [00:15] <bz> dholbert: not sure about that bit.
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  61. # [00:16] <dholbert> bz, possibly, yeah. That would simplify things
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  87. # [00:24] <annevk> nsm: replied
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  91. # [00:25] <nsm> annevk: to clarify, the spec assumes no persistence, is that correct? That's why there is no mention of storage mutex or similar
  92. # [00:25] <mcomella> In the coding style guide, == is recommended over ===. Does anyone know why? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Coding_Style#Operators
  93. # [00:26] <@gavin> == is cooler
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  95. # [00:26] <annevk> nsm: persistence?
  96. # [00:26] <annevk> nsm: I would assume if we add some kind of notification.data thing we'd storage clone it for each global
  97. # [00:26] <nsm> annevk: for example in b2g, the notifications stay around in the tray even after the app quits, so they are 'stored' somewhere
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  99. # [00:26] <mcomella> gavin: But that's how all those other lame languages do it! :P
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  101. # [00:26] <mcomella> gavin: But there's a functionality difference in Gecko too, right?
  102. # [00:26] <annevk> nsm: ah, notifications can stay around for a while per spec
  103. # [00:26] <@gavin> yes
  104. # [00:27] <@gavin> it's to discourage you from writing code where the distinction matters :)
  105. # [00:27] <annevk> nsm: Notification objects can go away
  106. # [00:27] <annevk> per normal GC
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  109. # [00:27] <mcomella> gavin: I don't think I understand that point of view - can you explain?
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  113. # [00:28] <nsm> annevk: on a related note https://bugzil.la/932929
  114. # [00:28] <@gavin> I'm mostly kidding, I doubt it was that thought through
  115. # [00:28] <@gavin> have to go, bbl
  116. # [00:28] <mcomella> lol
  117. # [00:28] <mcomella> Trolled.
  118. # [00:28] <mcomella> :)
  119. # [00:28] <mcomella> So yes, anyone else, why == over === in the style guide?
  120. # [00:29] <mcomella> Else does MDN have a blame tool? :)
  121. # [00:29] <nsm> annevk: if main thread creates a Notification, now owrker calls Notification.get() and gets the notification, obviously the two JS objects are different, but if one of them calls close, its the same underlying notification for the user, so does the main thread also receive onclose ?
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  123. # [00:29] <annevk> yes
  124. # [00:29] <annevk> you close the notification
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  127. # [00:30] <annevk> so all its Notification objects will then get a queued close event
  128. # [00:30] <annevk> that's what the spec says anyway
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  130. # [00:31] <philor> so for the whole new set of reftest-with-caret failures, should I just file one "Intermittent test_reftests_with_caret.html sucks ass" bug?
  131. # [00:31] <philor> or just remove subtests the first time they fail?
  132. # [00:32] <philor> or just back out ehsan?
  133. # [00:33] <nsm> annevk: and the same will happen for two pages right. in that case our get() is very broken
  134. # [00:33] <nsm> is anyone else planning to implement get()?
  135. # [00:33] <annevk> nsm: yes
  136. # [00:33] <annevk> nsm: dunno
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  140. # [00:34] <annevk> I think people will want it eventually
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  142. # [00:35] <@roc> philor: I think you probably should just back out the re-enable
  143. # [00:35] <Gijs> mcomella: less typing, and as gavin said, generally code where the distinction matters is broken. Also, embrace the loose type system - !foo over foo == false over foo === false any time.
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  148. # [00:35] <Gijs> mcomella: (that said, I didn't write that)
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  156. # [00:36] <nsm> reuben: ping?
  157. # [00:36] <nsm> mhenretty: ping?
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  159. # [00:36] <reuben> nsm: hi
  160. # [00:36] <nsm> reuben: sorry to be blunt, but the Notification.get() we have is completely broken based on me and annevk's discussion above
  161. # [00:36] <mhenretty> nsm: pong
  162. # [00:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a6f5180a06c - Phil Ringnalda - Back out d890e603d751 (bug 961919) for reenabling failing tests
  163. # [00:37] <mcomella> Gijs: I'm not sure I agree with the mentality :\ - but I guess I can be the compile-time negative nancy
  164. # [00:37] <nsm> it is based too much on a app model, where there is only one page running and so on
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  167. # [00:37] <mcomella> (And that particular example, it makes sense to check booleans that way, though I suppose it does have the inherent == flaw, doesn't it...)
  168. # [00:37] <nsm> it breaks down with multiple same origin tabs or workers
  169. # [00:38] <annevk> silly apps
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  171. # [00:38] <nsm> mhenretty: ^, could you and reuben relook at this and do it right. also think about workers
  172. # [00:38] <mcomella> I'm more concerned about [] == 0 being true and [] === 0 being false when you have a data type you didn't think you had
  173. # [00:38] <nsm> i'm going to ditch it from the current worker notification patch
  174. # [00:38] <glandium> yay google http://www.buildwithchrome.com/getchrome
  175. # [00:39] <mhenretty> nsm: reading duscussion now
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  178. # [00:39] <Gijs> mcomella: I've never actually seen array and int confused in real code
  179. # [00:39] <reuben> nsm: …sure. I looked at get() for the first time the other day when we talked about it, FWIW
  180. # [00:39] <Gijs> mcomella: in talks complaining about JS loose typing, yes. In real code, no.
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  182. # [00:40] <Gijs> mcomella: undefined, false, null and int, those are more likely
  183. # [00:40] <nsm> reuben: oh, i thought you were hacking on it for a while :)
  184. # [00:40] <nsm> my bad
  185. # [00:40] <Gijs> mcomella: but as implied, if you have code where "!foo" won't do, but "foo !== null" would, that's a code smell.
  186. # [00:40] <Gijs> (at least in JS)
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  193. # [00:41] <mcomella> Gijs: True... I suppose my argument is that being explicit mitigates developer error
  194. # [00:42] <efaust> can we...un-kline people so we can contact them?
  195. # [00:42] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: what are b2g builds doing on aurora tip?
  196. # [00:42] <efaust> is that a thing we have power to do?
  197. # [00:42] <@khuey> efaust: they are dead to us
  198. # [00:42] <reuben> nsm: I may need some help re. "think about workers", I don't know what the restrictions are
  199. # [00:42] <reuben> nsm: alternatively you could point me to docs if those exist :)
  200. # [00:42] <efaust> khuey: can you send a message to bholley via carrier pidgeon?
  201. # [00:43] <efaust> and relay a single bit of response?
  202. # [00:43] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: they are whispering to you "tell aki about me, tell aki about me, tell aki about me"
  203. # [00:43] <philor> at a guess
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  205. # [00:43] <nsm> khuey: reuben thinks workers have docs :P
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  207. # [00:43] <nsm> reuben: i can help think over those bits
  208. # [00:43] <jwalden> mcomella: == over === is just dumb, == is slower and does coercions and is just bad
  209. # [00:44] <shu> efaust: kline is damnatio memoriae, yes
  210. # [00:44] <nsm> reuben: you won't have much to worry about worker specifics, since if it works in 2 different tabs it should be easy to get it on workers
  211. # [00:44] <Gijs> jwalden: is it slower in a way that matters?
  212. # [00:44] <mcomella> jwalden: You wouldn't happen to know why the style guide recommends == then?
  213. # [00:44] <Gijs> (when not in tight loops etc.)
  214. # [00:44] <jwalden> Gijs: perf doesn't matter, right?
  215. # [00:44] <nsm> there will just have to be some sort of system app to others app that use notifications IPC
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  217. # [00:44] <nsm> for events and stuff
  218. # [00:44] <jwalden> Gijs: you are tempting fate using a thing that is by nature slower
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  220. # [00:45] <nsm> just keep me in the loop and i can keep pointing out stuff that won't work with workers
  221. # [00:45] <mcomella> If it's a free win, why not take it?
  222. # [00:45] <mhenretty> nsm: it sounds like the problem is the propagation of the close event across tabs, is this correct?
  223. # [00:45] <jwalden> mcomella: because I haven't argued it into submission to what is the only sane equality operator in JS
  224. # [00:45] <Gijs> mcomella: it's not free, though.
  225. # [00:45] <@khuey> efaust: bholley is not in the room with me
  226. # [00:45] <mhenretty> nsm: or any event for that matter
  227. # [00:45] <@khuey> nsm: "docs"
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  229. # [00:45] <@khuey> heh
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  231. # [00:45] <@khuey> nsm: what does he want?
  232. # [00:45] <nsm> khuey: nothing specific for now
  233. # [00:45] <@khuey> ok
  234. # [00:45] <mcomella> Gijs: By typing amount or are you also referring to code smell? (or something else)?
  235. # [00:45] <mhenretty> nsm: when multiple notifications objects exists representing a single notification
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  237. # [00:46] <Gijs> mcomella: all three, the third being, more thinking
  238. # [00:46] <nsm> mhenretty: yes
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  240. # [00:46] <jwalden> == is code smell itself
  241. # [00:46] <mhenretty> nsm: so when two tabs of the same origin call notification.get(), one closes, we need another tab that has that object to get the event
  242. # [00:46] <Gijs> mcomella: e.g. optional arguments where right now, I can just go if (foo) { /* stuff */ }
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  244. # [00:46] <mhenretty> nsm: i see.
  245. # [00:46] <Gijs> mcomella: and jwalden is advocating that I should be using if (foo === true) { /* stuff */ }
  246. # [00:46] <sicking> nsm: did you say that we implement the full Promise spec? Or are there functions on the constructor still missing?
  247. # [00:47] <jwalden> Gijs: no, for that if (foo) is fine
  248. # [00:47] <annevk> sicking: fully minus subclass
  249. # [00:47] <sicking> awesome
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  252. # [00:47] <jwalden> Gijs: but for explicit comparisons, == lets comparisons slip by, that should not
  253. # [00:47] <mcomella> Gijs: I would argue that developers aren't always thinking about code smell though, at least type checking forces them to get it right
  254. # [00:47] <jwalden> Gijs: and the implicit coercions make the code slower
  255. # [00:47] <Gijs> conversely, for things where I need to check absence/non-truthiness, I have to go: if (foo === undefined || foo === false) { /* stuff */ } if I want both implicit and explicit non-truth.
  256. # [00:47] <Unfocused> this discussion makes me further want to do a bunch of linting on our JS
  257. # [00:47] <mt> == triggers type coercion, which hides bugs; if(foo) is explicit conversion effectively
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  260. # [00:47] <jwalden> Gijs: === is exactly the optimal, minimal test
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  262. # [00:48] <mcomella> Unfocused: I have been working on something to at least get it in the tree https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=939350
  263. # [00:48] <mcomella> (Granted, it's taking its time)
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  265. # [00:49] <Gijs> jwalden: right, but it's lots of typing in the case where we can now use == efficiently, ie where several of undefined, false or null are options.
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  267. # [00:49] <nsm> sicking: everything is there
  268. # [00:49] <sicking> nsm: woot
  269. # [00:49] <Unfocused> mcomella: oh, awesome :) was doubting i'd have time to do that part myself. but i've been messing with linting the odd module i own
  270. # [00:49] <Gijs> jwalden: and also, lots more worrying about edgecases
  271. # [00:49] <sicking> nsm: we don't freeze Promise.prototype or anything like that, right?
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  273. # [00:49] <mt> Gijs: try if (!foo) instead of if (foo === false || foo === null || foo === undefined)
  274. # [00:50] <nsm> sicking: well its WebIDL, do we do that for WebIDL DOM bindings. I'm not doing anything special
  275. # [00:50] <Unfocused> minus the initial annoying setup, it's been quite productive
  276. # [00:50] <Gijs> mt: but in that case, I don't follow why there's an issue with equality but not with test without the binary operator.
  277. # [00:50] <mt> Gijs: unless it has to be checked against one falsy value and not others (in general: don't do that)
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  279. # [00:50] <Gijs> why do we care about efficiency once but not always?
  280. # [00:50] <sicking> nsm: great stuff!
  281. # [00:51] <jwalden> Gijs: APIs generally are not that untyped that undefined/null/false should all have equivalent semantics
  282. # [00:51] <nsm> thanks!
  283. # [00:51] <mcomella> Unfocused: Hopefully we'll be able to integrate it with hg and force the lints to pass on check-in (or something like that)
  284. # [00:51] <Gijs> APIs in JS/DOM land usually are :)
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  286. # [00:51] <Gijs> also, notably, empty string
  287. # [00:51] * Unfocused nods
  288. # [00:51] <mt> Gijs: not using == isn't about efficiency, it's about correctness; by using == you are signaling that you are being lazy, === is a sign to a reader that you know what you are doing
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  290. # [00:51] <mt> Gijs: otherwise, someone reading your code has to wonder if you really meant == or ===.
  291. # [00:52] <Gijs> mt: no, that assumes the reader has certain presuppositions.
  292. # [00:52] <mt> Gijs: Yes, but certain useful ones when working on a project at this scale.
  293. # [00:52] <Gijs> when I read === I wonder "why wasn't == just fine here, is this code intended to function differently if I pass another value where it makes a difference?"
  294. # [00:52] <Unfocused> mcomella: its makes me want to kill as many preprocessor directives as possible though, to get editor support (live linting inside your editor = massive win)
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  296. # [00:53] <mt> Gijs: do you have a concrete, non-falsy case?
  297. # [00:53] <Gijs> mt: case for what?
  298. # [00:53] <mt> Gijs: because x = "13"; if (x == 13) is sloppy
  299. # [00:54] <Gijs> mt: and how is presupposing that === signals knowledge and == signals laziness 'useful' ?
  300. # [00:54] <Unfocused> Gijs: is that because of expectations that our codebase sets though?
  301. # [00:55] <mcomella> I think the usefulness is in knowing the type
  302. # [00:55] <mt> Gijs: there are too many cases of c/c++/other programmers coming over to JS and writing if (x == 12), which enables deferred bugs
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  306. # [00:55] <Gijs> mt: right, but that's not JS's fault, nor should we burden JS developers with a kind of imported C++ strictness just because it helps other people feel at home :)
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  308. # [00:56] <Gijs> mt: do you have concrete cases where this happened within mozilla, though?
  309. # [00:56] <mt> Gijs: "the greater good"; I recommend Hot Fuzz here
  310. # [00:56] <Gijs> Those kinds of things are why we have reviewers
  311. # [00:56] <Gijs> mt: I have no idea what that statement means.
  312. # [00:56] <mt> Gijs: not in Moz, I haven't been here that long; elsewhere, plenty of cases
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  315. # [00:57] <Gijs> Anyway, this thing goes both ways. If I write C++, I put caveats in the upload comments of my patches because the finer differences between our miriad of pointer and string types are difficult for me to understand. I've seen C++ developers do the inverse about XUL and JS.
  316. # [00:57] <mt> Gijs: bugs get nasty when you move from lazy code (type coercion on compare everywhere) and cross over to strict code, the problems all manifest in the strict code
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  319. # [00:59] <mcomella> Gijs: https://mcomella.pastebin.mozilla.org/4132810
  320. # [00:59] <mcomella> Contrived example
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  323. # [01:00] <mcomella> Combined with strict-type-checking test cases, you're more likely to catch silly errors like this
  324. # [01:00] <cpeterson> Gijs: in that example using === does not raise an error or warning; it just takes a different code path.
  325. # [01:00] <mcomella> (And when you test by hand and you're wondering why the good looking code you have doesn't work properly)
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  327. # [01:01] <WeirdAl> I keep hitting SIGSEGV in #0 JSC::X86Assembler::setInt32(where = 0x7f85836181bd, value = -2407) at /home/ajvincent/release/mozilla/js/src/assembler/assembler/X86Assembler.h:3250
  328. # [01:01] * philor|away is now known as philor
  329. # [01:02] <WeirdAl> I have a modal dialog up
  330. # [01:02] <WeirdAl> and apparently that signal isn't the end of the world in this session :(
  331. # [01:02] <Gijs> cpeterson: at this point, "that example" is no longer a unique reference and I'm not sure what you're referring to.
  332. # [01:02] <Gijs> mcomella: again, this is why you have code review (and, as you point out, test cases)
  333. # [01:03] <Gijs> mcomella: I don't think switching operator recommendation will do a whole lot to help with cases like that
  334. # [01:03] <dholbert> WeirdAl, that sounds familiar. I think that might be something the JS engine uses internally as a signal or something
  335. # [01:03] <dholbert> WeirdAl, (and I can just "c" in GDB to continue past it)
  336. # [01:03] <bnicholson> '' == false // true '0' == false // true '' == '0' // false
  337. # [01:03] <dholbert> WeirdAl, (though yeah, I recall it being annoying when I hit it)
  338. # [01:03] <WeirdAl> dholbert: well, hitting it 50+ times in a session is freaking crazy
  339. # [01:04] <dholbert> WeirdAl, JS folks might have some suggestions / more info
  340. # [01:04] <WeirdAl> well, certainly 20+ times
  341. # [01:04] <bnicholson> equality rules in JS aren't very obvious
  342. # [01:04] <dholbert> WeirdAl, maybe try #jsapi if you don't get any answers here
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  344. # [01:04] <dholbert> WeirdAl, all I can tell you is "you're not crazy" :)
  345. # [01:04] <WeirdAl> I dunno, I've been trying to resurrect XULRunner ;)
  346. # [01:05] <dholbert> WeirdAl, there was an implicit local-scope to that "not crazy" declaration
  347. # [01:05] <dholbert> (should've used curly braces, sorry)
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  349. # [01:05] <WeirdAl> :p
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  351. # [01:07] <bz> so what the heck is happening with try? :(
  352. # [01:07] <bz> We're running like 20 Linux jobs at once
  353. # [01:07] <bz> and have a 300-job backlog?
  354. # [01:07] <bz> And climbing?
  355. # [01:07] <bz> Why only 20 jobs running, though?
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  358. # [01:08] <RyanVM|afk> bz: have you not noticed the tree closures lately?
  359. # [01:08] <RyanVM|afk> the scheduler is seriously horked
  360. # [01:09] <catlee> it's not the scheduler, it's the network
  361. # [01:10] <mccr8> there's a bug about it which I don't have off the top of my head
  362. # [01:10] * geekboy|afk is now known as geekboy
  363. # [01:10] <catlee> many :)
  364. # [01:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a5f29b7bd75 - Benoit Girard - Bug 956263 - Add a preference to control the compositor frame-rate. r=mstange
  365. # [01:11] <catlee> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964804 is the one about job scheduling, but it's just another symptom of the overall problem which is being tracked in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=957502
  366. # [01:11] <bz> RyanVM|af: I have noticed, yes. :(
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  368. # [01:12] <bz> RyanVM|afk: I just want my try results so I can push to inbound... ;)
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  370. # [01:12] <bz> I mean, do we have so few try tests running because we have no free machines?
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  372. # [01:12] <bz> Or for some other reason?
  373. # [01:12] * geekboy is now known as geekboy|afk
  374. # [01:12] <bz> (or do we not have that data?)
  375. # [01:12] * bz is looking at http://builddata.pub.build.mozilla.org/reports/pending/try.html
  376. # [01:13] <philor> bz: guess what, closed
  377. # [01:13] <philor> turns out that having 47 external repos beyond your control as a part of your build is not as robust a plan as you would think it would be
  378. # [01:13] <jwalden> not much of a guess there
  379. # [01:13] <bz> I know inbound is closed
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  381. # [01:14] <bz> But if my try tests started _now_ I'd still be looking at a lag time of 1.5 hours or something
  382. # [01:14] <philor> hahahahaha
  383. # [01:14] <philor> ha
  384. # [01:14] <jorendorff> people. == is always wrong
  385. # [01:14] <bz> as it is....
  386. # [01:14] <jld> bz: Only 1.5?
  387. # [01:14] <bz> jld: I only did linux64
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  389. # [01:14] <bz> jld: Pretty sure none of the test suites take longer than 90 mins to run there
  390. # [01:15] <bz> So I pushed to try at 13:05
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  392. # [01:15] <jorendorff> it is js at its wattest. stop using it. use it never.
  393. # [01:15] <bz> The build finished at 14:21
  394. # [01:15] <jld> bz: I was waiting more like 2h for b2g builds, plus more for tests.
  395. # [01:15] <bz> The tests are still pending
  396. # [01:15] <bz> jld: yeah
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  398. # [01:15] <bz> jld: I carefully avoided b2g in my push
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  400. # [01:15] <bz> So it's going on 2 hours of pending time...
  401. # [01:15] <jld> bz: That was a few days ago, when things were... less melted down than they seem to be now. /-:
  402. # [01:16] <bz> mmm
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  404. # [01:16] <bz> So do we have any idea _why_ stuff is melting down?
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  408. # [01:17] <jld> bz: In my case it was -p emulator. See also https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/38892fc54b57
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  410. # [01:18] <philor> bz: should actually help you somewhat that we can no longer build b2g, since one reason you see so few linux64 test jobs running is that the enormous linux64 test pool also does the two trillion wasteful b2g test jobs
  411. # [01:18] <Preeti> ping fabrice
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  414. # [01:18] <jorendorff> high wattage
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  416. # [01:19] <philor> fewer 14.5 minute setup, 1 minute run, 14.5 minute teardown jobs getting ahead of you
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  418. # [01:19] <jld> philor: ...ew. (At the risk of stating the obvious.)
  419. # [01:20] <philor> jld: actual number are slightly different, but still obscene
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  494. # [02:02] <bz> roc: ping
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  497. # [02:03] <bz> roc: do you happen to have a link to the current incarnation of the overflow:clip stuff and layout isolation bits or whatnot?
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  499. # [02:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7566746035f - Jeff Walden - Bug 963641 - Make TI work correctly with respect to JSOP_MUTATEPROTO. r=jandem
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  501. # [02:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/513791fc2754 - Jeff Walden - Bug 963641 - Tests for __proto__ in object literals with jsreflect and asm.js module export objects. r=jorendorff
  502. # [02:04] <@roc> bz: the spec you mean?
  503. # [02:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78d5cf8a1ac6 - Jeff Walden - Bug 963641 - Add a test for __proto__ in destructuring patterns as a shorthand. r=jorendorff
  504. # [02:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b0697637ef5 - Jeff Walden - Don't write out the repository revision to intl/icu/SVN-INFO, so that the results of running this script remain constant over time when the same ICU repository path is
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  506. # [02:04] <firebot> specified. Useful but not necessary preliminary to bug 924839, r=jimb over IRC
  507. # [02:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e170276a033 - Jeff Walden - Bug 963641 - Remove PNK_MUTATEPROTO, and just make JSOP_MUTATEPROTO be generated for the PNK_INITPROP+__proto__ combination. r=jorendorff
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  510. # [02:05] <@roc> bz: is this what you're looking for? http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-containment/
  511. # [02:05] <firebot> 924839, rs=jimb over IRC
  512. # [02:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f53d87699bc2 - Jeff Walden - Bug 963641 - Miscellaneous cleanups not implicated in actual bugs. r=jorendorff
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  551. # [02:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d44de38ad97f - Anthony Jones - Bug 965120 - Add --show option to mach clang-format; r=gps
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  553. # [02:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f99313fc00b5 - Anthony Jones - Bug 965120 - Git support for mach clang-format; r=gps
  554. # [02:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a77a99c84d5 - Anthony Jones - Bug 965120 - Use .clang-format to set tree default format; r=gps
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  561. # [02:30] <efaust> so question: I pushed a bunch of stuff between Waldo's push and Anthony's
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  564. # [02:32] <nthomas> s/pushed/committed/ ?
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  566. # [02:32] <nthomas> oh, actually pushed but firebot just didn't report
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  568. # [02:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/acdd3135860f - Tim Taubert - Bug 965468 - Make LoadStartDetectionRunnable wait for loadstart r=bent
  569. # [02:34] <jwalden> efaust: also your stuff no worky
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  571. # [02:35] <jwalden> perhaps only on some platforms
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  578. # [02:40] <philor> nice things, not ours
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  581. # [02:41] <bz> hey, now 133 running jobs on try
  582. # [02:41] <bz> and pending falling fast
  583. # [02:41] <bz> maybe closing the tree helps, eh
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  586. # [02:41] <jduell> sicking: bent: any idea how long latencies on the main thread are when it's busy?
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  588. # [02:42] <jduell> Trying to wrap our heads around how much difference dispatching to PBackground could be (vs network latencies in the 100s of ms)
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  590. # [02:42] <jduell> Could be a lot of work for very little latency change. Or not
  591. # [02:42] <bz> dom.msx_script_run_time is 10s? ;)
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  593. # [02:42] <jduell> bz: got a distribution rather than a doomsday data point?
  594. # [02:42] <bz> no. :(
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  610. # [02:46] <bz> jduell: more seriously, this is not hard to measure
  611. # [02:46] <bz> jduell: if we have a "busy" workload
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  614. # [02:47] <bz> jduell: let me write you a tool
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  616. # [02:48] <KWierso|sheriffduty> efaust: is it just 947014 that needs to go?
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  619. # [02:48] <jwalden> KWierso|sheriffduty: after I rebase I'll take a gander and see myself, btw
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  624. # [02:52] <bz> jduell: at least upper bounds...
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  628. # [02:54] <bz> jduell: you still there?
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  635. # [02:55] <jwalden> KWierso|sheriffduty: fairly sure I have a trivial patch, if you haven't backed out yet, sec
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  640. # [02:57] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jwalden: go for it
  641. # [02:58] <jwalden> KWierso|sheriffduty: done
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  643. # [02:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e40f5a0bd94 - Jeff Walden - Bustage fix, bug 947014 followup. r=bustage in a CLOSED TREE
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  666. # [03:19] <fabrice> whaou, try seems fast this evening
  667. # [03:19] <@njn> so you have to |git add| a rebased file once you've fixed its conflicts? Of course you do, git, that makes perfect sense
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  680. # [03:22] <froydnj> having it added while you fix conflicts means you might inadvertently commit conflicts
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  682. # [03:23] <efaust> KWierso|sheriffduty: it would have been, yeah
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  685. # [03:23] <efaust> if not for Waldo :)
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  690. # [03:24] <efaust> sigh
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  692. # [03:24] <efaust> that was a last second, "oh, I can just reorder the stuff in the file and remove this forward declaration" "fix"
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  730. # [04:06] <efaust> KWierso|sheriffduty: looks like the build is clean with Jeff's followup. can we reopen, or do we want to wait for test results?
  731. # [04:07] <KWierso|sheriffduty> efaust: reopened
  732. # [04:07] <efaust> awesome, thanks :)
  733. # [04:07] <KWierso|sheriffduty> though we'll probably close again in an hour for the best part of philor|afk's day
  734. # [04:07] <efaust> some big merge?
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  736. # [04:08] * efaust just doesn't want to be the reason inbound looks like madagascar's ports
  737. # [04:08] <KWierso|sheriffduty> no, we've had to close every tree pretty much every night for infrastructure silliness
  738. # [04:08] <efaust> oh
  739. # [04:08] <efaust> :/
  740. # [04:08] <KWierso|sheriffduty> for the last week-ish
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  742. # [04:10] <catlee-away> today's the day everything gets better!
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  747. # [04:15] <philor> "Add function to add arbitrary errors"
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  798. # [05:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ad741e8ab1b7 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 957410 - Make |mach valgrind-test| detect errors in child processes. r=gps.
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  809. # [05:23] <KWierso|sheriffduty> markh: busted xpcshell tests on fxteam
  810. # [05:23] <KWierso|sheriffduty> on at least osx: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=33783956&tree=Fx-Team
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  1057. # [06:55] <glob> happy bmo push day! https://globau.wordpress.com/2014/01/30/happy-bmo-push-day-80/
  1058. # [06:57] <KWierso> philor: you around?
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  1060. # [06:57] <philor> KWierso: sort of
  1061. # [06:57] <KWierso> where should I file those two xperf failures about nvstereoapii.dll being accessed? release engineering?
  1062. # [06:58] <philor> testing::talos
  1063. # [06:58] <philor> make jmaher blame the slaves if they're going to get the blame
  1064. # [06:58] <philor> whew, it is slaves, not slave :)
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  1066. # [06:59] <philor> given nvidia's proclivities, the damn thing is probably taking over the browser to show driver update ui
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  1076. # [07:02] <philor> oh, neat, b2g mochitests
  1077. # [07:03] <philor> going to stab yourself in the face with a fork later? :)
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  1090. # [07:10] <nigelb> morning
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  1095. # [07:15] <nigelb> heh
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  1102. # [07:26] <bz> huh
  1103. # [07:26] <bz> try is super-fast
  1104. # [07:26] <bz> how come?
  1105. # [07:29] <fabrice> bz: wait for emulator tests, they are as slow as usual
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  1107. # [07:29] <bz> no, I mean actually loading the try web pages
  1108. # [07:29] <bz> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=2d5cec33bb39
  1109. # [07:29] <bz> Loads very quickly
  1110. # [07:29] <bz> normally it would spend a while waiting on the data....
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  1113. # [07:30] <fabrice> ha
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  1115. # [07:32] <glob> could be the result of the networking stuff that's been happening to fix the timeouts
  1116. # [07:32] <bz> Ah, excellent
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  1120. # [07:33] <glob> (i have no idea really, just been following the progress there)
  1121. # [07:34] <bz> What _is_ the progress?
  1122. # [07:34] <bz> And what was the issue?
  1123. # [07:35] <glob> bug 957502 is the one to follow
  1124. # [07:35] * bz looks
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  1131. # [07:45] <nigelb> It sort of looks like bz is saying, "Usually, I open the page and go for coffee. Now it's so fast, I can't get my coffee!"
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  1134. # [07:47] <nigelb> philor: Is the return code 247 from b2g ics failures known?
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  1136. # [07:48] <philor> nigelb: that's the reason KWierso is retriggering back, he thinks he'll find the moment when b2g became shit
  1137. # [07:48] <KWierso|afk> shittier*
  1138. # [07:48] <bz> nigelb: well, usually it takes about 10-30 seconds to load on a fast connection
  1139. # [07:48] <bz> nigelb: now it's more like 3-5s on a slow connection
  1140. # [07:48] <nigelb> aah
  1141. # [07:48] <bz> nigelb: also, I don't drink coffee. ;)
  1142. # [07:48] <nigelb> bz: heh :)
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  1144. # [07:49] <twi> so, I have a symbol that is called X on OSX 10.6 and Y on > 10.6
  1145. # [07:50] <twi> is there a way to tell the linker use X or Y, whichever exists?
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  1147. # [07:51] <twi> (i'm trying to avoid having to stub it manually and do tricks with dlopen or whatever)
  1148. # [07:51] <bz> two: dlopen/dlsym is the normal way to do this. :(
  1149. # [07:51] <bz> er, twi: ^
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  1151. # [07:51] <twi> that makes me sad
  1152. # [07:52] <twi> is this already done anywhere in gecko?
  1153. # [07:52] <bz> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=dlsym%28
  1154. # [07:52] <bz> "Found 360 matching lines in 91 files"
  1155. # [07:53] <twi> ScaledFontMac looks promising
  1156. # [07:53] <twi> thanks :)
  1157. # [07:53] <bz> No problem. ;)
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  1163. # [08:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af39c4df306f - Oleg Romashin - Bug 840874 - Get Skia backend working on Qt port. r=bas
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  1253. # [09:07] <gaston> whoa, try indeed loads veeery fast now
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  1257. # [09:15] <nthomas|away> it got reset a week or so ago
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  1269. # [09:24] <glob> nthomas|away, reset as in "rebooted", or "data wiped" ?
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  1271. # [09:25] <nthomas|away> glob: wiped and replaced with a fresh clone of m-c
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  1278. # [09:28] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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  1281. # [09:30] <edmorley> Ms2ger: good morning, mischief :-)
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  1289. # [09:38] <Ms2ger> edmorley, what have I done now? :)
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  1297. # [09:42] <bz> ewong: what's up?
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  1302. # [09:45] <gaston> so try needs to be wiped periodically ? how so ? just crud accumulation over time ?
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  1307. # [09:47] <edmorley> Ms2ger: nothing...yet ;-)
  1308. # [09:47] <Ms2ger> gaston, hg doesn't handle the thousands-of-heads situation too well
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  1310. # [09:48] <gaston> so it's a scalability issue, and each push to try creates a new head ?
  1311. # [09:48] <Ms2ger> Yep
  1312. # [09:48] <gaston> i thought try results were only kept for a finite amount of time anyway ?
  1313. # [09:49] <gaston> cant the corresponding heads be wiped at the same time as results/logs/builds ?
  1314. # [09:49] <gaston> (im probably stating the obvious and this has already been debated to death...)
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  1317. # [09:50] <KWierso|afk> gaston: I think we're doing the try reset every month now during scheduled downtime?
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  1319. # [09:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d4c383026cd - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 952893. Part 3: Tighten TimeVarying invariants so that GetAt always returns an end time when the value actually changes. r=padenot
  1320. # [09:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1424d2e16349 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 952893. Part 1: Block the AudioDestinationNode when it's the only node in the AudioContext. r=padenot,karlt
  1321. # [09:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62a1f3ee8c28 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 952893. Part 2: When all streams in the MSG are blocked, allow the MSG to suspend indefinitely and pause AudioStream outputs while suspended. r=padenot
  1322. # [09:52] <gaston> KWierso|afk: ah so it's not 'when try becomes too unusable, we reset it' :)
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  1324. # [09:52] <KWierso|afk> unless our use of try increases a lot, hopefully ;)
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  1326. # [09:53] <Ms2ger> KWierso|afk, I thought during the uplift
  1327. # [09:53] <Ms2ger> gaston, that's what we used to do
  1328. # [09:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning KWierso|afk you should sleep :)
  1329. # [09:54] <KWierso|afk> sleep is for the people not marathoning Supernatural ;)
  1330. # [09:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh
  1331. # [09:55] <Ms2ger> Should know better
  1332. # [09:55] <Ms2ger> KWierso|afk, never sleeps
  1333. # [09:56] <Ms2ger> (Weird comma there)
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  1345. # [10:07] <KWierso|afk> gaston: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/reset$20try|sort:date/mozilla.dev.tree-management/oFmz_25QM9c/xBbO3NMKBHIJ
  1346. # [10:07] <KWierso|afk> - going forward, this will be a standard part of the once per cycle Tree Closing Window (TCW), with the hope these adhoc resets will no longer be needed.
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  1348. # [10:09] <gaston> ok :)
  1349. # [10:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> KWierso|afk: hm more b2g runner test time out
  1350. # [10:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> not only m1
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  1355. # [10:22] <mjrosenb> can someone kick drhjdryjdxfh ?
  1356. # [10:22] <KWierso|afk> mjrosenb: try #it ?
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  1364. # [10:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4cac96a0f55a - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 634982. Reftest. r=jrmuizel
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  1386. # [11:02] <smontagu> pulling m-c I get http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4136689 How should I proceed?
  1387. # [11:02] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm edmorley ^ have you seen this before ?
  1388. # [11:03] <smontagu> is my repository corrupt?
  1389. # [11:03] <edmorley> smontagu: quite possibly - try cloning from scratch?
  1390. # [11:04] <Ms2ger> smontagu, actually...
  1391. # [11:04] <edmorley> smontagu: what mercurial version?
  1392. # [11:04] <Ms2ger> You may have been pulling during a push
  1393. # [11:04] <Ms2ger> So try pulling again
  1394. # [11:04] <smontagu> edmorley: 2.8
  1395. # [11:04] <edmorley> Ms2ger: I think once in that state, it's hard to recover
  1396. # [11:04] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah just did a merge to m-c maybe because of that
  1397. # [11:04] <edmorley> Ms2ger: or more, hg recover and the rest take longer than a fresh clone when it's happened to me before
  1398. # [11:04] <smontagu> hg log -l 1 shows Tomcat|sheriffduty's merge
  1399. # [11:05] <Ms2ger> Mm
  1400. # [11:05] <Ms2ger> Well, try pulling, it won't hurt
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  1441. # [12:04] <grubshka> hi there
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  1444. # [12:04] <grubshka> I've a XPCOM component that I build from Mozilla source. It was 60ko before version 26, and since 27 it's 6Mo! Any idea?
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  1446. # [12:05] <grubshka> (okay I'm not clear, it's a custom C++ component and I build it against mozilla-release)
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  1483. # [13:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> roc: karl ping
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  1485. # [13:07] <karl> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hi
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  1489. # [13:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hi karl
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  1491. # [13:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> just wonder if https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=33801936&tree=Mozilla-Inbound could be related to rocs push /your bug
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  1494. # [13:10] <Cwiiis> mikedeboer: Any chance of a Windows 8 style changes screenshot? I'm eager to see it :)
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  1497. # [13:12] <firebot> Check-in:
  1498. # [13:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/044deda0cbcb - Mats Palmgren - Bug 959311 - Splitting nsComboboxControlFrame makes no sense so it should always report COMPLETE reflow status. Also, make them page-break-inside:avoid by default. r=bz
  1499. # [13:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9024723e97d3 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 964726 - (Windows/OS2 only) Don't handle CTRL+F4 as a combobox command, so that it works as Close Tab as intended. r=bz
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  1501. # [13:13] <karl> Tomcat|sheriffduty: both bug 941873 and bug 961996 are graph thread changes, so are unlikely to affect (main thread) gc
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  1503. # [13:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> karl: ah ok
  1504. # [13:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> thx
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  1509. # [13:15] <karl> Tomcat|sheriffduty: i don't see anything else likely gc related in that push either
  1510. # [13:16] <mikedeboer> Cwiiis: sure! :) gimme a sec...
  1511. # [13:16] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah i think i will file a js bug for this
  1512. # [13:18] <karl> Tomcat|sheriffduty: yes, that's seeming most likely, assuming no random memory corruption somewhere
  1513. # [13:22] <Cwiiis> mikedeboer: thanks :)
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  1515. # [13:24] <mikedeboer> Cwiiis: http://www.evernote.com/shard/s251/sh/ec450bb2-18b3-479f-a09d-a6d0e0c91c0f/da9534c92591baf39dac65212dd86dd8
  1516. # [13:24] <mikedeboer> (sorry for the long url)
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  1518. # [13:25] <Cwiiis> mikedeboer: Love it! Can't wait for this to hit Nightly...
  1519. # [13:25] <Cwiiis> mikedeboer: will there be Australis in a release without these changes?
  1520. # [13:25] <mikedeboer> Cwiiis: thanks! it might take a while before it's all reviewed and done though ;)
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  1522. # [13:26] <mikedeboer> Cwiiis: there won't be an Australis release without these Windows 8 adjustments.
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  1526. # [13:28] <Cwiiis> mikedeboer: also good to hear :)
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  1536. # [13:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0847543adbfd - Henri Sivonen - Bug 959061 - Have only one "Chinese, Simplified" item in the Character Encoding menu. r=Unfocused.
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  1540. # [13:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/87081cb91d97 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 964293 - Implement Cu.cloneInto() method, r=bholley
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  1555. # [14:01] <mjrosenb> nbp: they're all pretty much interchangible.
  1556. # [14:06] <nl> Hi guys, i'm creating an event in C++ code and dispatch it via NS_NewDOMEvent(getter_AddRefs(event), lostPointerCaptureTarget, nullptr, nullptr), event->InitEvent(NS_LITERAL_STRING("lostpointercapture"), false, false);
  1557. # [14:06] <nl> after that i'm event in js but event.type is empty
  1558. # [14:06] <nl> how should i dispatch events so that type is not empty ?
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  1565. # [14:15] <RealRaven> what's the safe way of copying an AString ?
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  1569. # [14:16] <RealRaven> this is for nsIMsgSearchValue.str, I was using
  1570. # [14:16] <RealRaven> new String(val.str); - but apparently this sometimes throws NS_ERROR_ILLEGAL_VALUE ?
  1571. # [14:18] <Ms2ger> Sounds like var.str is throwing
  1572. # [14:19] <RealRaven> would it, if str was missing? I thought it is part of the interface
  1573. # [14:19] <RealRaven> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/nsIMsgSearchValue
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  1575. # [14:19] <RealRaven> (if str was empty or null)
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  1578. # [14:20] <RealRaven> so I was wondering whether there is a "canonical" way of cloning an AString
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  1580. # [14:21] <Ms2ger> https://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mailnews/base/search/src/nsMsgSearchValue.cpp#59
  1581. # [14:21] <RealRaven> direct assignment is bad because I delete the original object.
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  1583. # [14:21] <Ms2ger> It'll copy, don't worry
  1584. # [14:22] <RealRaven> ok, but you are saying there is garbage in there which throws on the get? that's bad :(
  1585. # [14:22] <Ms2ger> Looks like you're looking at one of the non-string attributes listed at https://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mailnews/base/search/public/nsMsgSearchCore.idl#208
  1586. # [14:22] <RealRaven> so do I have to try .. catch for a safe copy of str?
  1587. # [14:23] <reyre> is there a way to get the leak logs from try pushes? or a way to have it print them in the log?
  1588. # [14:23] <RealRaven> can I retrieve IS_STrinG_attribute from script?
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  1590. # [14:24] <RealRaven> here is a tiny snippet:
  1591. # [14:24] <RealRaven> if (searchTerm.value) {
  1592. # [14:24] <RealRaven> let val = newTerm.value; // nsIMsgSearchValue
  1593. # [14:24] <RealRaven> val.attrib = searchTerm.value.attrib;
  1594. # [14:24] <RealRaven> val.str = new String(searchTerm.value.str || ''); // guard against invalid str value.
  1595. # [14:24] <RealRaven> newTerm.value = val;
  1596. # [14:24] <RealRaven> }
  1597. # [14:24] <Gijs> RealRaven: please use a pastebin for stuff like this.
  1598. # [14:24] <RealRaven> sorry :S
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  1600. # [14:26] <RealRaven> Ms2ger: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4137875 - so I need to compare attribute against all these values to guard it throwing?
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  1603. # [14:26] <Ms2ger> Or catch the exception
  1604. # [14:27] <Ms2ger> try { val.str = searchTerm.value.str; } catch (e) { val.str = '' }
  1605. # [14:28] <Gijs> Could someone suggest useful people to point at bug 965761 ?
  1606. # [14:28] <Ms2ger> firebot, bug 965761
  1607. # [14:28] <Gijs> I just added a profile to that bug; it's pretty trivially reproducible, and the profile isn't immediately enlightening.
  1608. # [14:28] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=965761 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Website maxes out CPU
  1609. # [14:28] <Ms2ger> bz? :)
  1610. # [14:29] * Gijs is trying to find other people than bz to point at core bugs he doesn't know what to do with :)
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  1615. # [14:34] <RealRaven> Ms2ger: yes but I am risking side effects with this. I made a replica of IS_STRING_ATTRIBUTE:
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  1617. # [14:36] <Gijs> hsivonen: for future reference, for browser/toolkit-only patches, please use fx-team
  1618. # [14:36] <Gijs> hsivonen: our patches for the charset menu conflict, and now the sheriffs have work when merge time comes. :(
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  1620. # [14:37] <RealRaven> Ms2ger: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4137944
  1621. # [14:39] <RealRaven> Does that look about alright?
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  1623. # [14:39] <hsivonen> Gijs: ok. I had no idea that a) I was supposed to use fx-team and b) that I was even allowed to.
  1624. # [14:39] <Gijs> hsivonen: yeah, that branch is poorly named, I guess. :(
  1625. # [14:39] <Gijs> hsivonen: not blaming you, just noting it for future reference! :)
  1626. # [14:39] <hsivonen> Gijs: ok
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  1637. # [14:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5f1208b17e4d - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 948070 - Create a mach target for b2g desktop reftests, r=jgriffin, DONTBUILD, a=NPOTB
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  1639. # [14:43] <Ms2ger> ahal, you know you don't need a= for inbound, right? :)
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  1643. # [14:44] <ahal> Ms2ger: the a= was for DONTBUILD
  1644. # [14:44] <ahal> not sure how that normally works, but meh
  1645. # [14:44] <ejpbruel> who can tell me how to register a new xpcom service?
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  1647. # [14:45] <Ms2ger> Run!
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  1649. # [14:46] <ahal> ejpbruel: I'm no expert but had a similar problem recently and found https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Creating_XPCOM_Components/Component_Internals#Registration_Methods_in_XPCOM helpful
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  1651. # [14:47] <ejpbruel> ahal: ty, I'm going to see if this helps :)
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  1654. # [14:52] <Gijs> ejpbruel: add the relevant lines to the relevant manifest
  1655. # [14:52] * Gijs thinks that doc is pretty old and possibly outdated :(
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  1661. # [14:53] <Gijs> (also, what's up with formatting on that page?)
  1662. # [14:53] <ejpbruel> Gijs: how do I know what the relevant manifest is?
  1663. # [14:53] <Gijs> ejpbruel: where are you adding the component + service? :)
  1664. # [14:54] <ejpbruel> Gijs: dom/workers
  1665. # [14:54] <ejpbruel> Gijs: its a manager for worker debuggers, fwiw
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  1667. # [14:58] <Gijs> ejpbruel: ok, I don't know. Maybe I was wrong. It's doubly confusing because AFAIK most of dom/* is webidl instead of xpcom
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  1669. # [14:58] <ejpbruel> Gijs: yeah, perhaps I should take a break until khuey comes online
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  1673. # [15:01] <reuben> ejpbruel: is this C++ or JS?
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  1677. # [15:03] <ejpbruel> reuben: C++
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  1681. # [15:06] <thinker> ejpbruel: you need to fill a lot of data and code in dom/base/nsDOMClassInfo.cpp and other files in that directory if youu implements WebAPI in pidl.
  1682. # [15:07] <reuben> ejpbruel: yeah, the next article in that MDN link has some example code, but I think it's a bit outdated. you should look at https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/filelog/25c361f6661f/layout/build/nsLayoutModule.cpp for component registrations
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  1684. # [15:07] <ejpbruel> lots of different advice here, who's the expert on this stuff? :)
  1685. # [15:07] <reuben> and then cargo cult your way to victory
  1686. # [15:07] <Ms2ger> Woo: http://moz-relic.code4fun.de/
  1687. # [15:07] <Ms2ger> ejpbruel, don't touch nsDOMClassInfo
  1688. # [15:08] <ejpbruel> see what I mean?
  1689. # [15:08] <Ms2ger> Touching nsDOMClassInfo would have been a good idea if you implemented a main thread api three years ago :)
  1690. # [15:09] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: so, can you tell me what I *should* do?
  1691. # [15:09] <Ms2ger> That would be too easy ;)
  1692. # [15:09] <Ms2ger> What are you doing?
  1693. # [15:09] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: i want to create a main thread service on which workers register themselves
  1694. # [15:09] <Ms2ger> Implemented in JS?
  1695. # [15:10] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: C++
  1696. # [15:10] <Ms2ger> Why use a service at all?
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  1699. # [15:10] <Ms2ger> Oh, or the workers register themselves from JS?
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  1701. # [15:10] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: 1. because I need a singleton. 2. because I'm basing this on how workers use the memory reporter, which is also a service
  1702. # [15:11] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: no, worker will register themselves on this service for the purpose of attaching a debugger to them
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  1705. # [15:12] <Ms2ger> This service is being called from {main-thread, worker-thread} {c++, js} (schrappen wat niet past)
  1706. # [15:13] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: {main-thread, worker-thread} {c++}
  1707. # [15:14] <Ms2ger> Hmm
  1708. # [15:15] <Ms2ger> Then my first idea is static methods on some main-thread class + runnables from the worker thread to the main thread
  1709. # [15:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f31b9790f1b - Hannes Verschore - Bug 958158 - IonMonkey: Optimize do {} while(false), r=djvj
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  1712. # [15:16] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: I'm just going to do what the memory reporter does
  1713. # [15:17] <ejpbruel> which is have a mutex protected registration method
  1714. # [15:17] <Ms2ger> Mm, I guess that can work
  1715. # [15:17] * Ms2ger is scared of parallel code
  1716. # [15:17] <ejpbruel> apparently its safe to get the reporter service from the worker thread too
  1717. # [15:17] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: you think I'm not? :)
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  1719. # [15:17] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: what i care about atm is how to register this service so i can access it
  1720. # [15:17] <ejpbruel> any help there?
  1721. # [15:18] <Ms2ger> No
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  1724. # [15:19] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: do you know who *can* help?
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  1726. # [15:21] <Ms2ger> The usual suspects that are all hanging out on the west coast right now... khuey|away, bz_sleep
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  1729. # [15:24] <till> ejpbruel: bent and njn, too
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  1732. # [15:25] <ejpbruel> thanks guys
  1733. # [15:25] * Ms2ger waves at Gijs
  1734. # [15:26] <reuben> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/filelog/25c361f6661f/layout/build/nsLayoutModule.cpp can :P
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  1737. # [15:26] <till> ejpbruel: btw, did you see the ES6 Realms stuff that's in the latest draft? You probably did, given your work on Modules
  1738. # [15:26] <ejpbruel> till: yeah, i did
  1739. # [15:26] <ejpbruel> what about it?
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  1741. # [15:26] <till> ejpbruel: in any case, I'll work on getting that landed and use it for Shumway
  1742. # [15:26] <ejpbruel> till: ah, good to know :)
  1743. # [15:26] <till> ejpbruel: at least for now. We might want to get different wrappers later
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  1745. # [15:27] <ejpbruel> till: on my part, debugging workers looks like it might take a while :(
  1746. # [15:27] <till> ejpbruel: :( indeed
  1747. # [15:27] <ejpbruel> till: refactoring the debugger server to not use Components turns out to be… painful
  1748. # [15:27] <till> ejpbruel: I see. That sucks
  1749. # [15:27] <ejpbruel> till: its like screwing in a lightbulb somewhere and that causes the dishwasher in the next room to explode ;)
  1750. # [15:28] <till> ejpbruel: that would've been a major advantage of the now-all-but-canned idea of using one runtime for all workers: the ability to use components ...
  1751. # [15:28] <ejpbruel> till: yeah. the big problem is Cu.import
  1752. # [15:28] <NeilAway> hsivonen: is there an API to take a "deprecated" name (e.g. "ISO-8859-1") and return a "canonical" name (i.e. "windows-1252")?
  1753. # [15:29] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, something something EncodingUtils?
  1754. # [15:29] <Ms2ger> Maybe lubxul-only
  1755. # [15:29] <Ms2ger> lib
  1756. # [15:29] <till> ejpbruel: interesting. That, I wouldn't have expected
  1757. # [15:29] <ejpbruel> till: well, we use it *everywhere*
  1758. # [15:29] <ejpbruel> till: I'm trying to replace that with require now
  1759. # [15:29] <ejpbruel> till: but require loads everything in its own global
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  1761. # [15:29] <ejpbruel> till: which breaks chrome debugging
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  1763. # [15:30] <ejpbruel> till: so I've tried to make a custom loader for the debugger server
  1764. # [15:30] <ejpbruel> till: but that causes random mochitests to never finish, etc :)
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  1766. # [15:30] <till> ejpbruel: what about importScripts?
  1767. # [15:30] <ejpbruel> till: thats an async API
  1768. # [15:30] <till> ejpbruel: it's not
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  1770. # [15:31] <ejpbruel> till: hmmmm
  1771. # [15:31] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: sorry, need something that JS can use
  1772. # [15:31] <ejpbruel> till: well, we *sometimes* want to Cu.import something its own global
  1773. # [15:31] <Ms2ger> Mmm
  1774. # [15:31] <ejpbruel> till: and other times we want to loadsubScript it in the same global
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  1776. # [15:31] <ejpbruel> till: could we shim that somehow with importScripts?
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  1778. # [15:32] <till> ejpbruel: once I have landed Realms: probably?
  1779. # [15:32] <ejpbruel> till: heh
  1780. # [15:32] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, TextEncoder("ISO-8859-1").encoding?
  1781. # [15:32] <ejpbruel> till: my idea was to provide a sandbox like API
  1782. # [15:32] <ejpbruel> till: createGlobal and evalInGlobal
  1783. # [15:32] <ejpbruel> till: and use that to implement a worker loader
  1784. # [15:32] <ejpbruel> till: hence requirifying the server
  1785. # [15:32] <Ms2ger> Apparently not
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  1787. # [15:33] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, none that I know of, then
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  1789. # [15:33] <till> ejpbruel: that's basically module loaders, right?
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  1791. # [15:33] <ejpbruel> till: exactly
  1792. # [15:33] <ejpbruel> till: we were trying to switch the server to use the devtools loader anyway
  1793. # [15:34] <ejpbruel> till: so this seemed like the best path forward
  1794. # [15:34] <till> ejpbruel: makes sense
  1795. # [15:34] <ejpbruel> till: i mean, even if importScripts doesn't work, I could expose Cu.import on the debugger global
  1796. # [15:34] <ejpbruel> till: but that seems like making an already messy situation worse :)
  1797. # [15:34] <till> ejpbruel: yes!
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  1799. # [15:34] <ejpbruel> not sure if its worth the extra effort right now though
  1800. # [15:35] <Ms2ger> Running xpconnect code on workers? :)
  1801. # [15:35] <till> Ms2ger: go away
  1802. # [15:35] * Ms2ger cries
  1803. # [15:35] * till meant that in the nicest possible way
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  1805. # [15:36] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh
  1806. # [15:36] * Ms2ger sniffs
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  1808. # [15:36] <firebot> pwalton was last seen 12 weeks, 1 day, 15 hours, 52 minutes and 38 seconds ago, changing nick to pcwalton.
  1809. # [15:36] * Tomcat|sheriffduty gives Ms2ger his deputy badge so he is happy
  1810. # [15:36] <Ms2ger> Bah, more work
  1811. # [15:36] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh
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  1817. # [15:40] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: looks like I need labelsencodings.properties but that's only used to generate code and isn't actually available as a string bundle :s
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  1828. # [15:49] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, if you need it, we can probably make that happen, I guess
  1829. # [15:49] <Ms2ger> Tomcat|sheriffduty, <3
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  1853. # [16:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/615eb1c448df - Nicolas Silva - Bug 946200 - Use the new texture client/host and async-video if OMTC is activated on Linux. r=nrc
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  1867. # [16:13] <eis_os> There CSS2 page margins are applied and for windows I need some correction values, so I can fix Bug 963557
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  1872. # [16:15] <froydnj> nooo
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  1900. # [16:30] <NeilAway> hsivonen: sorry, as I mentioned to Ms2ger I wanted a chrome JS API
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  1906. # [16:31] <hsivonen> NeilAway: we don't have one. What's the use case?
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  1967. # [17:04] <ekr> I see that "make check" no longer runs C++ unit tests...
  1968. # [17:04] <ekr> Is there some new target?
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  1980. # [17:10] <Ms2ger> ekr, ./mach cppunittest
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  1982. # [17:11] <ekr> What, I can't use make any more?
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  1987. # [17:13] <kats> gps: is a command like "hg push m-i -r tip" supposed to work with hgext-gecko-dev? because i think unless i use pushtree it tries to use the https url instead of the ssh url
  1988. # [17:13] <ekr> gps: ^^
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  1990. # [17:13] <Ms2ger> ekr, why do you want to use make?
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  1993. # [17:14] <ekr> Ms2ger: because it's what I have my CI system using now.
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  2000. # [17:14] <ekr> Ms2ger: and so whoever changed this basically stopped all my tests running
  2001. # [17:14] <Ms2ger> ekr, doesn't look like there's a make target, no
  2002. # [17:15] <Ms2ger> You can get the mozharness script from somewhere, I guess
  2003. # [17:15] <ekr> Ms2ger: Do you know why this change was made?
  2004. # [17:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/877ea08fb1cf - Michael Shal - Bug 963123 - NNS Windows build fix to prevent lower case working directories to make the build fail. r=glandium
  2005. # [17:15] <Ms2ger> ekr, did you miss the entire move-away-from-make story?
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  2009. # [17:16] <ekr> Ms2ger: There seem to still be a lot of Makefiles.
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  2011. # [17:16] <ekr> … they just don't work the same way
  2012. # [17:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/33c047525cdf - Sotaro Ikeda - Bug 964976 - Prevent crash of unsupported pixel format gralloc allocation. r=nical
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  2016. # [17:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57108744303d - Simone Carletti - Bug 965740 - Add Microsoft azure to PSL. r=gerv
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  2018. # [17:18] <Ms2ger> ekr, anyway, the reason they moved out of make check is to get results from builds earlier
  2019. # [17:18] <Ms2ger> ekr, the reason there's no new make target is because make targets simply are a terrible interface
  2020. # [17:18] <Gijs> and so that it's possible to star the results separately from "omgbuildfailed"
  2021. # [17:19] <Gijs> (in particular, there is/used to be a bunch of JS randomorange in there, although to be fair I'm not sure that was part of make check or something else)
  2022. # [17:19] <ekr> Ms2ger: I guess we'll have to disagree about what's a good interface. Personally I think some monolithic tool that everyone is forced to run is a terrible interface
  2023. # [17:19] <Ms2ger> ekr, make?
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  2025. # [17:20] <ekr> Ms2ger: I see your point, but no. There's a difference between something that just runs builds and having like every development task that anyone wants have the the answer be "it's in mach"
  2026. # [17:21] <Ms2ger> ekr, mach is a command dispatching framework; make as used for test running is a command dispatching framework
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  2029. # [17:22] <Ms2ger> ekr, so I don't see how make is better here
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  2031. # [17:24] <ekr> Ms2ger: well, minimally, I already had it working, so as I said this silently broke my workflow
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  2038. # [17:27] <ekr> That and that the mach version doesn't actually seem to work properly when you feed it a directory name
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  2047. # [17:32] <Ms2ger> Three cheers for MOZ_OVERRIDE
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  2050. # [17:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/663f53920a1d - Rick Eyre - Bug 965336 - Setting TextTrackCue's Start or End times should set its state to dirty. r=rillian
  2051. # [17:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d3ede3fa22f6 - Simone Carletti - Bug 965744 - PSL changes for Google private domains. r=gerv
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  2054. # [17:35] <@smaug> masayuki: do you need those TextComposition patches reviewed before the weekend (so that they could land before the next merge)? Or is early next week ok?
  2055. # [17:36] <masayuki> smaug: no, they should be landed in next cycle.
  2056. # [17:36] <masayuki> Sorry for forgetting to mention about it.
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  2058. # [17:37] <gps> kats: "push" isn't yet intelligent enough to use ssh://. i've been meaning to roll pushtree into push
  2059. # [17:38] <@smaug> masayuki: ok, thanks
  2060. # [17:38] <kats> gps: ok, thanks
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  2062. # [17:38] <ekr> gps: mach seems to be sad about running cppunittests on my directories https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4139019
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  2064. # [17:39] <gps> ekr: that's weird. not sure what the issue is. likely not a mach, but build or even test problem
  2065. # [17:40] <ekr> gps: uh, ok… so who do I report this to?
  2066. # [17:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb793d3d2bad - Gregory Szorc - Bug 965587 - Add lock to Firefox Health Report uploading; r=rnewman
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  2068. # [17:41] <Ms2ger> ekr, ted
  2069. # [17:41] <ekr> Ms2ger: OK. Willdo.
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  2074. # [17:43] <reyre> is it possible to turn leak logs on for a specific try push?
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  2085. # [17:47] <RealRaven> Ms2ger: a question about https://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mailnews/base/search/src/nsMsgSearchValue.cpp#59
  2086. # [17:47] <Ms2ger> Uh-oh
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  2088. # [17:47] <RealRaven> Is this only called by String(val.str) because that expects a string?
  2089. # [17:47] <Ms2ger> Hmm?
  2090. # [17:47] <RealRaven> I am not sure how type polymorphism translates from C++ t oJAvascript
  2091. # [17:48] <Ms2ger> 'val.str' calls the getter for str
  2092. # [17:48] <RealRaven> well is newAttr.str = term.str always safe?
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  2094. # [17:48] <Ms2ger> No
  2095. # [17:48] <Ms2ger> In the sense that it can throw
  2096. # [17:48] <RealRaven> Ms2ger: Ok, so I can only use str when it is a string.
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  2098. # [17:48] <RealRaven> need to copy another proerty for different typesm, correct?
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  2103. # [17:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/854c4cf1a9f3 - Felix S. Klock II - Bug 961821: tests for jit-support for writes into TypedObject arrays (r=pnkfelix).
  2104. # [17:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d35364fc05e7 - Felix S. Klock II - Bug 961821: jit-support for writes into TypedObject arrays.
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  2117. # [17:56] <RealRaven> just wondering if I have to always copy all other attributes like priority, status, size, label, junkStatus over. or can I only do it depending on the value of attrib
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  2119. # [17:56] <RealRaven> which basically calls for a big switch() statement
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  2121. # [17:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/df55b667600a - Geoff Brown - Bug 927602 - (2) Skip reftest font-stretch-1.html on Android x86; r=dminor
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  2123. # [17:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/77c19a45fac5 - Geoff Brown - Bug 936226 - Mark canvas-drawImage-scale-2a.html as passing on Android x86; r=dminor
  2124. # [17:57] <Pike> is there a specified order of messages when using postMessage?
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  2158. # [18:12] <RyanVM> ttaubert: looks like Bug 965541 on fx-team regressed xperf
  2159. # [18:12] <RyanVM> ttaubert: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=33814274&tree=Fx-Team
  2160. # [18:12] <RyanVM> ttaubert: seems kinda bogus to me, though
  2161. # [18:12] <RyanVM> jmaher ^
  2162. # [18:13] <RyanVM> the push in question: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/8c00a78919c3
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  2166. # [18:15] <drs> is there a way to detect when an event listener is added or removed from a DOM element via xpcom? currently, I'm using nsIEventListenerService to get listeners, but it doesn't provide a way of being informed of changes
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  2169. # [18:16] <RyanVM> jmaher: same on inbound - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=33815086&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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  2171. # [18:16] <RyanVM> jmaher: guess we'll want a bug filed, but looks like we need to add an exception for it?
  2172. # [18:16] <ttaubert> RyanVM: hm
  2173. # [18:17] <RyanVM> ttaubert: it's not you :)
  2174. # [18:17] <ttaubert> RyanVM: \o/
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  2176. # [18:17] <ejpbruel> bz: can you help me with creating a new xpcom service for workers?
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  2178. # [18:18] <jmaher> RyanVM: there is a bug
  2179. # [18:18] <jmaher> KWierso|afk: filed it yesterday
  2180. # [18:18] <RyanVM> jmaher: even better!
  2181. # [18:19] <jmaher> RyanVM: edmorley|sheriffduty: ttaubert: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=965681 ?
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  2183. # [18:19] <RyanVM> thanks
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  2186. # [18:20] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ah, ty
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  2189. # [18:21] <edmorley|sheriffduty> RyanVM: marionette-webapi on b2g-inbound has regressed significantly in the last 24hrs :-( retriggers in progress
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  2193. # [18:21] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty: yeah, I pinged in the bug about it yesterday
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  2195. # [18:22] <RyanVM> good luck
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  2197. # [18:22] <RyanVM> jgriffin added logging IIRC
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  2199. # [18:24] <jmaher> edmorley|sheriffduty: RyanVM: it could be a machine update also- not necessarily a code change
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  2207. # [18:27] <edmorley|sheriffduty> RyanVM: yeah I think it's worsened more (like 80% failure rate)
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  2209. # [18:28] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty: lol, doh
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  2218. # [18:31] <ejpbruel> khuey: ping when available
  2219. # [18:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/509675067088 - Bobby Holley - Bug 872273 - Remove manual rooting from js_ReportUncaughtException. r=Waldo
  2220. # [18:31] <Ms2ger> khuey, ping when unavailable
  2221. # [18:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a2cbf8c440e - Bobby Holley - Bug 872273 - Use js::ErrorReportToString for worker ErrorEvents. r=bent
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  2223. # [18:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46df3fd9b0dc - Bobby Holley - Bug 872273 - Tests. r=smaug
  2224. # [18:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bea936ee8d8b - Bobby Holley - Bug 872273 - Generate a JSErrorReport when we need one. r=Waldo
  2225. # [18:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0302759868ba - Bobby Holley - Bug 872273 - Don't ToString the exn if we already got a report out of it. r=Waldo
  2226. # [18:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a231c042c5d3 - Bobby Holley - Bug 872273 - Remove non-cx variant of ErrorFromException, and make it take a HandleObject. r=Waldo
  2227. # [18:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/524b810fa489 - Bobby Holley - Bug 956385 - Don't count non-matching messages toward the total. r=ted
  2228. # [18:32] <Ms2ger> bholley, dat rooting...
  2229. # [18:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d696c67e2489 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 962626 - Browser API: mozmetachanged triggered when a meta element is added to the dom., r=ehsan
  2230. # [18:32] <Ms2ger> (Also, we're up to 166k changesets)
  2231. # [18:32] <bholley> Ms2ger: hm?
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  2233. # [18:32] <Ms2ger> bholley, 509675067088
  2234. # [18:33] <bholley> Ms2ger: :-)
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  2345. # [19:18] <Callek|Buildduty> jaws: ping
  2346. # [19:18] <Callek|Buildduty> jaws: to be clear, your loaner, do you need the data on it, or are we clear to completely reclaim it?
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  2348. # [19:18] <jaws> Callek|Buildduty: you should check with Unfocused, but i don't have any data on it
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  2360. # [19:22] <Gijs> what's the proper way of doing __defineGetter__ these days?
  2361. # [19:23] <Gijs> assuming the key for which I need a getter has dashes in, so I can't use get foo() { ... }
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  2363. # [19:23] <ttaubert> Gijs: Object.defineProperty
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  2365. # [19:24] <Gijs> ttaubert: ugh. :(
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  2374. # [19:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f33daf2f8fb4 - Birunthan Mohanathas - Bug 828300 - Replace NS_ARRAY_LENGTH with mozilla::ArrayLength/MOZ_ARRAY_LENGTH. r=ehsan
  2375. # [19:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/26028496b508 - Birunthan Mohanathas - Bug 828300 - Remove NS_ARRAY_LENGTH. r=ehsan
  2376. # [19:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd8a9796aa31 - snigdha - Bug 962826 - Return the product from GetTouchStartTolerance(). r=botond
  2377. # [19:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/15a8086a2431 - Edwin Flores - Bug 963621 - Stop passing kClientNeedsFramebuffer into Qualcomm OMXCodec. r=doublec
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  2380. # [19:30] <@gavin> RyanVM|sheriffduty: why did today's nightlies not build ttaubert's 11pm merge
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  2384. # [19:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gavin: sounds like a question for releng - but probably because it didn't see it as "good" in time
  2385. # [19:31] <philor> gavin: because the first two Windows builds on it disconnected and retried, and the third didn't finish until after 3
  2386. # [19:31] <@gavin> sonofa
  2387. # [19:32] <@gavin> how about we retrigger a nightly
  2388. # [19:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gavin: which platforms?
  2389. # [19:32] <@gavin> ALL OF THEM
  2390. # [19:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> oh dear
  2391. # [19:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> what broke?
  2392. # [19:32] <@gavin> nothing
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  2394. # [19:32] <@gavin> but I want some sync patches there
  2395. # [19:33] <@gavin> but let me think abotu that for a bit before I pull the trigger
  2396. # [19:33] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> you're the boss :)
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  2449. # [19:58] <bjacob_> froydnj++
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  2451. # [19:59] <bjacob_> for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=948984#c27
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  2471. # [20:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0ee7e389205 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 15a8086a2431 (bug 963621) for Android bustage.
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  2475. # [20:03] <Ms2ger> bjacob_, what do they say about optimization without measuring? :)
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  2481. # [20:05] <bjacob_> Ms2ger: everytime your write or review code, you have to mentally answer dozens of small "is this slow?" questions. So "never worry about speed before you've measured with a profiler" is impractical at best (and douchebaggy at worst).
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  2483. # [20:06] <Ms2ger> bjacob_, worst, then, in my case ;)
  2484. # [20:06] <bjacob_> :)
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  2495. # [20:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mconley: on your push for bug 962677 - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=33822876&tree=Fx-Team
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  2500. # [20:13] <mconley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: in a meeting - will check it out in 20 min
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  2504. # [20:14] <jesup> gps: (or anyone) have an idea why opus would have a ton a dup symbol defs on a Valgrind Try build? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=33809067&full=1&branch=try#error0
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  2507. # [20:15] <jesup> This was a build to verify the libyuv and libjpeg changes I'm doing: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=0e02065ce326 - so no idea why that would affect Opus on Valgrind
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  2524. # [20:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ff577977791 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 963192, part 2 - Smart pointerize IID2ThisTranslatorMap. r=bholley
  2525. # [20:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3468a34d0404 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 963192, part 3 - Smart pointerize XPCContext::mException. r=bholley
  2526. # [20:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e003f827db17 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 963192, part 1 - Smart pointerize XPCWrappedJSClass::mInfo. r=bholley
  2527. # [20:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b4a87d390cd - Andrew McCreight - Bug 963192, part 4 - Smart pointerize nsXPConnect::mDefaultSecurityManager. r=bholley
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  2534. # [20:25] <jesup> gps: ping
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  2538. # [20:25] <bz> Any video folks around?
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  2540. # [20:26] <Ms2ger> Is jesup a video folk?
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  2542. # [20:27] <jesup> Ms2ger: not <video>, but video/audio generally. What's up?
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  2544. # [20:27] <jesup> bz: wassup?
  2545. # [20:27] <ejpbruel> khuey: ping
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  2547. # [20:28] <@gavin> nsDOMFileReader does main thread I/O? :(
  2548. # [20:28] <jesup> gavin: ick
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  2557. # [20:33] <RattyAway> NOT a helpful error message:
  2558. # [20:33] <RattyAway> Fri Jan 31 2014 03:25:21
  2559. # [20:33] <RattyAway> Error: A promise chain failed to handle a rejection.
  2560. # [20:33] <RattyAway> Date: Fri Jan 31 2014 03:25:02 GMT+0800 (Malay Peninsula Standard Time)
  2561. # [20:33] <RattyAway> Full Message:
  2562. # [20:33] <RattyAway> Full Stack: JS frame :: resource://gre/components/nsLivemarkService.js :: LS_getLivemark/< :: line 405
  2563. # [20:33] <RattyAway> JS frame :: resource://gre/components/nsLivemarkService.js :: ETAT_handleCompletion :: line 144
  2564. # [20:33] <RattyAway> native frame :: <unknown filename> :: <TOP_LEVEL> :: line 0
  2565. # [20:33] <Ms2ger> Spammy
  2566. # [20:33] <RattyAway> Source file: resource://gre/components/nsLivemarkService.js
  2567. # [20:33] <RattyAway> Line: 405
  2568. # [20:33] <RattyAway> :P
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  2571. # [20:35] <abr> Is there something simliar to "valgrind --tool=massif" that I can run Firefox under for OS X? I'm reliably seeing heap-unclassified usage reaching 14 to 15 GB after an hour or so of normal usage.
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  2573. # [20:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c78f9d502f0f - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 928575 - Overhaul FHR data collection for extensions and plugins for desktop. r=gps
  2574. # [20:36] <abr> (Yes, there are valgrind ports for OS X, but they're extremely buggy and can't even start Firefox all they way up)
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  2579. # [20:38] <@ted> abr: valgrind supports OS X, but it lags behind the most recent revision
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  2581. # [20:39] <@ted> it should work fine on like one release back
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  2584. # [20:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/324679ec10ad - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 965751 - Deprecate ObjectWrapper.jsm, r=bholley, f=fabrice
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  2587. # [20:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: so you r+ed bug 918806?
  2588. # [20:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: is it expected that test_interfaces.html would be failing afterwards? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=33824940&tree=Mozilla-Inbound :)
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  2590. # [20:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nsm ^
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  2592. # [20:41] <jesup> abr: you should talk to njn and look into the DMD (Dark Matter Detector)
  2593. # [20:41] <nsm> ugh!
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  2595. # [20:42] <abr> jesup -- thanks for the pointers
  2596. # [20:42] <nsm> bz: i don't know how this should work, since Promise is supposed to be a JS api, I guess we shouldn't expose it on Window
  2597. # [20:42] <jesup> and haunt #memshrink :-)
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  2599. # [20:43] <nsm> bz: ecmaGlobals?
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  2602. # [20:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nsm: guess I'll go ahead and backout
  2603. # [20:44] <nsm> ok
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  2605. # [20:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and I momentarily thought I was going to get to nail someone for not getting DOM peer review :( :P
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  2607. # [20:45] <nsm> haha
  2608. # [20:46] <bz> jesup: the facebook paper thing
  2609. # [20:46] <bz> jesup: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=965761
  2610. # [20:46] * jesup looks
  2611. # [20:46] <bz> nsm: window.Promise should exist, no?
  2612. # [20:46] <bz> nsm: Which "this" are you talking about? ;)
  2613. # [20:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e4ed3b79f4d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 6db8b08a3aea and 1d7c2025bb56 (bug 918806) for B2G mochitest failures.
  2614. # [20:47] <nsm> bz: yes, but should i add it to ecmaGlobals or to interfaceNamesInGlobalScope?
  2615. # [20:47] <bz> nsm: Ah
  2616. # [20:47] <bz> nsm: The former for now, and add a comment in the WebIDL to move it when the WebIDL goes away?
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  2618. # [20:48] <nsm> why would it be moved later if it was added to ecmaGlobals?
  2619. # [20:48] <bz> er, I meant the _latter_ for now
  2620. # [20:48] <nsm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: if you haven't backed it out i can land the change right now
  2621. # [20:48] <nsm> ok
  2622. # [20:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nsm: see firebot above ^
  2623. # [20:49] <nsm> ah ok
  2624. # [20:49] <@khuey> ejpbruel: reping me after lunch
  2625. # [20:49] <@khuey> ejpbruel: or is this covered by your email?
  2626. # [20:49] <ejpbruel> khuey: calling it a day, sent you an email, enjoy your lunch! :)
  2627. # [20:49] <jesup> bz: Hard to say if it's a site bug or artifact of how we do decoding. Roc/cpearce/doublec/etc I'd guess. Do you need a facebook login to see it? Which profiler did you use; internal or jprof or external? (internal doesn't see unregistered threads.... :-( )
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  2645. # [20:57] <WeirdAl> !seen karl
  2646. # [20:57] <firebot> karl was last seen 7 hours, 39 minutes and 9 seconds ago, saying 'Tomcat|sheriffduty: yes, that's seeming most likely, assuming no random memory corruption somewhere' in #developers.
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  2649. # [20:58] <WeirdAl> hmm, I try printing to PDF using nsIPrintSettings in chrome JS, and I crash the browser :)
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  2651. # [20:58] <WeirdAl> 512 *aPaperName = ToNewUnicode(NS_ConvertUTF8toUTF16(gtk_paper_size_get_name(mPaperSize)));
  2652. # [20:58] <WeirdAl> (gdb) print mPaperSize
  2653. # [20:58] <WeirdAl> $1 = (GtkPaperSize *) 0xa5a5a5a5a5a5a5a5
  2654. # [20:58] <Ms2ger> firebot, literal 0xa5a5a5a5a5a5a5a5
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  2656. # [20:59] * Mook_as thinks firebot usually has the 32 bit versions?
  2657. # [20:59] <WeirdAl> firebot literal 0xa5a5a5a5
  2658. # [20:59] <firebot> WeirdAl: 0xa5a5a5a5 is 'jemalloc allocated uninitialized junk memory (cf. 0x5a5a5a5a)'.
  2659. # [20:59] * geekboy is now known as geekboy|afk
  2660. # [20:59] <Ms2ger> Bah, firebot
  2661. # [21:00] <WeirdAl> Ms2ger: wanna see the snippet of code I was trying to run?
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  2663. # [21:01] <Ms2ger> I don't think so :)
  2664. # [21:01] <WeirdAl> aww
  2665. # [21:01] <gps> jesup: not sure about that symbol foo. non-fatal bugs with linking aren't unheard of
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  2672. # [21:03] <jesup> gps: I retriggered, and Callek|Buildduty is trying to log in to look at backend.mk in libopus. The errors like "src/config/rules.mk:995: target `opus.o' given more than once in the same rule" when expanding libopus are confusing (gives an error for every file)
  2673. # [21:04] <Callek|Buildduty> gps: https://callek.pastebin.mozilla.org/4140216
  2674. # [21:04] <Callek|Buildduty> gps: jesup: while I'm still logged on, need anything else?
  2675. # [21:04] <jesup> thanks. That looks sane and like my build :-/
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  2680. # [21:06] <WeirdAl> Ms2ger: looks like it's because the JS debugger wanted some property that wasn't defined yet
  2681. # [21:06] <Ms2ger> Huh
  2682. # [21:06] <jesup> gps: any ideas on things to check?
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  2693. # [21:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73e4adef1599 - Malini Das - Bug 965782 - ignore certain delete_session exceptions in Marionette cleanup, r=wlach
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  2718. # [21:22] <reuben> really, hg? you can't figure this out?
  2719. # [21:22] <reuben> -pref("geo.wifi.uri", "https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/browserlocation/json");
  2720. # [21:22] <reuben> +pref("geo.wifi.uri", "http://127.0.0.1:8000");
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  2723. # [21:23] <Callek|Buildduty> jesup: gps: lost your chance this time around: Connection to try-linux64-spot-135.build.mozilla.org closed by remote host.
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  2733. # [21:30] <jesup> Callek|Buildduty: gps: rillian: Ok, weird. Results haven't posted to tbpl yet, but self-serve shows that the retrigger succeeded......
  2734. # [21:30] <@smaug> !seen jduell
  2735. # [21:30] <@killer> I don't know who jduell is.
  2736. # [21:30] <firebot> jduell was last seen 18 hours, 47 minutes and 45 seconds ago, saying 'bz: got a distribution rather than a doomsday data point?' in #developers.
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  2748. # [21:34] <WeirdAl> karl: ping
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  2754. # [21:35] <TimAbraldes> Callek|Buildduty: You probably already know this, but I think Fx-Team is burning
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  2756. # [21:36] <TimAbraldes> Callek|Buildduty: I'm assuming "Buildduty" == "Sheriff" :)
  2757. # [21:36] <KWierso> TimAbraldes: I think RyanVM|sheriffduty already backed out the bad thing
  2758. # [21:36] <Callek|Buildduty> TimAbraldes: nope, buildduty is "release engineering manager of the machines" sheriff == RyanVM|sheriffduty
  2759. # [21:36] <froydnj> TimAbraldes: the sheriff would be RyanVM|sheriffduty
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  2762. # [21:36] <karl> WeirdAl: hi
  2763. # [21:36] <Callek|Buildduty> TimAbraldes: thanks for letting "us" know anyway :-)
  2764. # [21:36] * RyanVM|sheriffduty runs away screaming
  2765. # [21:37] * KWierso pings RyanVM|sheriffduty one more time for good measure
  2766. # [21:37] <Callek|Buildduty> RyanVM|sheriffduty: btw, fx-team is/was burning -- not sure if anyone pinged you about it though
  2767. # [21:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Callek|Buildduty: KWierso: *whew* thanks
  2768. # [21:37] <Callek|Buildduty> RyanVM|sheriffduty: also thanks!
  2769. # [21:37] * RyanVM|sheriffduty wakes up
  2770. # [21:37] * Callek|Buildduty teases with pings
  2771. # [21:37] <WeirdAl> karl: I'm crashing repeatedly using nsPrintSettingsImpl due to mPaperSize being 0xa5a5a5a5...
  2772. # [21:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5ff73743d1d3 - Eric Faust - Bug 924720 - Followup: Add better comments to window convert stub change.(r=bholley over IRC)
  2773. # [21:37] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: paying attention yet?
  2774. # [21:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: I think a need a few more pings first
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  2776. # [21:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> then you know it's *really* important
  2777. # [21:38] * froydnj makes a note for later
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  2781. # [21:39] <karl> WeirdAl: i guess, in a debug build, that means that mPaperSize is on or has been set from deleted memory
  2782. # [21:39] <WeirdAl> I think it's never been initialized at least in the code I'm running
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  2784. # [21:40] <karl> WeirdAl: you could be right; iirc there was a different pattern for delete and alloc, but not sure which
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  2794. # [21:44] <WeirdAl> karl: I think http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-release/source/widget/gtk/nsPrintSettingsGTK.h#140 and http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-release/source/widget/gtk/nsPrintSettingsGTK.cpp#86 are informative
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  2796. # [21:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b68a429b695 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 965952 - Remove GetVersionEx call from TestWinFileAttribs.cpp. r=froydnj
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  2802. # [21:46] <WeirdAl> looks like the copy ctor forgot about mPaperSize
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  2806. # [21:48] <froydnj> sdp_attr.c:sdp_parse_attr_fmtp makes me sad
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  2814. # [21:51] <karl> WeirdAl: yes, operator= too
  2815. # [21:51] <WeirdAl> karl: is Reed Loden still part of this project, or Michael Ventnor?
  2816. # [21:52] <Ms2ger> reed, what would you say?
  2817. # [21:52] * stephend|lunch is now known as stephend
  2818. # [21:53] <WeirdAl> Ms2ger: I thought reed was a bot, based on /whois
  2819. # [21:53] <karl> WeirdAl: i haven't seen michael for a long time
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  2822. # [21:54] <jcranmer|away> WeirdAl: I'd expect that reed has largely stopped mozilla work
  2823. # [21:54] <WeirdAl> hmm.
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  2825. # [21:55] <WeirdAl> karl - I'm willing to fix this, but not sure how.
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  2829. # [21:56] <WeirdAl> not just code-wise, but who's gonna review?
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  2832. # [21:57] <Gijs> Actually, I thought I saw Reed at the summit, but maybe that was just my imagination?
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  2834. # [21:57] <Gijs> looks like the google spreadsheet has disappeared :(
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  2836. # [21:58] <karl> WeirdAl: you can ask me for review, if you can explain the changes
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  2840. # [21:58] <WeirdAl> :| Honestly, I'd be making educated guesses at what the "right" changes are, just by reading contextual code. I really don't know the GTK API.
  2841. # [21:59] <WeirdAl> plus there's that whole "you change code no own touches, you own it" ;)
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  2843. # [21:59] <karl> WeirdAl: the copy constructor is protected; what is using it?
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  2845. # [22:00] <Ms2ger> WeirdAl, you've been asking about it. You own it.
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  2847. # [22:00] <WeirdAl> karl: ::Clone()
  2848. # [22:00] <Ms2ger> Cloning karl? sgtm
  2849. # [22:00] <Gijs> he's on this list: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Summit2013/Experiences/Site_Hosts#Roster_of_Site_Hosts_Brussels so presumably it wasn't my imagination. :)
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  2853. # [22:01] <WeirdAl> funny guy, Ms2ger :p
  2854. # [22:01] <Ms2ger> Sounds unlikely :)
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  2858. # [22:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/abc4eb237e16 - Daniel Holbert - (no bug) whitespace fix in nsFlexContainerFrame.cpp (reindent some function-parameters). no review, whitespace-only, DONTBUILD
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  2860. # [22:02] <WeirdAl> karl: nsPrintSettingsGTK::_Clone through nsPrintSettings::Clone I believe
  2861. # [22:03] <karl> WeirdAl: the copy constructor and operator= should handle mPaperSize like mPrintSettings etc
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  2864. # [22:03] <mbrubeck> ouch, win opt build restart on Aurora
  2865. # [22:03] <mbrubeck> after 3 hours
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  2873. # [22:04] <karl> WeirdAl: the gtk docs i hope would help determine the appropriate copy function
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  2876. # [22:04] <karl> for GtkPaperSize
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  2879. # [22:04] <mbrubeck> RyanVM|sheriffduty: and the Win opt build on your Aurora push failed too, while zipping up symbols
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  2886. # [22:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mbrubeck: ain't it grand
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  2888. # [22:05] <WeirdAl> karl: I'm going to attach relevant conversation from here in the bug I'm filing
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  2893. # [22:08] <karl> ok, see also http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-release/source/widget/gtk/nsPrintSettingsGTK.cpp#164
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  2902. # [22:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/08b38c51c5fc - Terrence Cole - Bug 963840 - Move MallocProvider out and add a comment about allocation in SpiderMonkey; r=jorendorff
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  2906. # [22:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f33534019590 - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 918806 - Add Promise to test_interfaces.html on all builds. r=bz
  2907. # [22:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fc70e3e4a241 - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 918806 - Enable DOM Promises. sr=bz
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  2942. # [22:23] <WeirdAl> karl: thanks for your help so far!
  2943. # [22:25] <@njn> abr: pong
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  2945. # [22:25] <karl> WeirdAl: yw; thanks for finding the bugs
  2946. # [22:25] <abr> njn: I'm trying to run DMD under OS X, but get a crash in dmd::StackTrace::Get() before it even gets as far as opening the window. Is this a known issue?
  2947. # [22:25] <abr> njn: Full crash bt here: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4140691
  2948. # [22:25] <@njn> abr: not known, AFAIK
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  2951. # [22:26] <@njn> abr: we have had some problems of that kind on Mac, but I think they were all resolved -- please file a bug!
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  2955. # [22:27] <abr> njn: Thanks, will do
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  2958. # [22:27] <Yoric> baku: ping
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  2960. # [22:28] <baku> Yoric, pong
  2961. # [22:28] <Yoric> baku: Hi.
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  2963. # [22:28] <Yoric> I've just seen bug 964293.
  2964. # [22:28] <Yoric> I'm not sure I understand, but that looks interesting.
  2965. # [22:29] <Yoric> Can you summarize quickly what Cu.cloneInto does?
  2966. # [22:29] <baku> Yoric, yes. it does exactly what ObjectWrapper.jsm does.
  2967. # [22:29] <baku> it means
  2968. # [22:29] <baku> let's say you have an object
  2969. # [22:29] <Yoric> Well, first time I heard about ObjectWrapper.jsm was when reading that bug.
  2970. # [22:29] <baku> created in some chrome js code (jsm for instance)
  2971. # [22:29] <baku> in order to send it to content, you have to wrap it.
  2972. # [22:30] <baku> so you have to "recreate"
  2973. # [22:30] <baku> the object in the content context.
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  2975. # [22:31] <baku> cloneInto does this, 1000 times faster than what ObjectWrapper.jsm does.
  2976. # [22:31] <Yoric> Cool.
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  2979. # [22:32] <Yoric> Can I also use it to expose an object from a chrome API to its caller without letting them modify it?
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  2981. # [22:32] <Yoric> s/caller/callers/
  2982. # [22:32] <@khuey> it creates a copy
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  2984. # [22:32] <Yoric> i.e. to expose a read-only copy
  2985. # [22:32] <@khuey> so there's no way for the original to be modified by the recipient of the clone
  2986. # [22:32] <@khuey> ah
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  2991. # [22:32] <@khuey> the copy is not read-only
  2992. # [22:32] <Yoric> No, right, my bad.
  2993. # [22:32] <Yoric> But that would serve my needs, too.
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  2996. # [22:33] <Yoric> Can I assume that this is a gazillion times faster than JSON.parse(JSON.stringify(stuff))?
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  2998. # [22:33] <Yoric> baku: khuey: ^
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  3000. # [22:33] <gps> RyanVM|sheriffduty: congratulation on having more commits^Wbackouts in 2013 than any other person! https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4140801
  3001. # [22:33] <@khuey> no, I don't think so
  3002. # [22:34] <baku> Yoric, I don't know how JSON.stringify works. maybe it uses something similar to what cloneInto does.
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  3005. # [22:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gps: \m/
  3006. # [22:34] <@khuey> cloneInto is capable of dealing with object types that JSON.stringify can't
  3007. # [22:34] <jaws> i'm trying to get <link media="not all and (print)"> to work so that a stylesheet is not applied when printing, but this doesn't appear to be working. we do support other media queries in the media attribute such as media="not all and (max-width: 500px)"
  3008. # [22:34] <jaws> any idea?
  3009. # [22:34] <@khuey> gps: are these pushes or commits?
  3010. # [22:35] <gps> khuey: commits
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  3013. # [22:35] <gps> khuey: you want pushes? that's a little harder since we have to take inbound, fx-team, b2g-inbound, etc into consideration
  3014. # [22:35] <@khuey> no, I was just wondering
  3015. # [22:35] <Yoric> khuey: In my case, I'm interested in data. Whenever the Session Restore API returns an object, it needs to clone it to avoid exposing internal values. Currently, this is done by going through JSON, which is ugly and, I assume, RAM and CPU-consuming.
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  3021. # [22:36] <baku> Yoric, yes. in that case, probably you can use cloneInto.
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  3023. # [22:36] <@khuey> I would not expect it to be significantly faster
  3024. # [22:36] <@khuey> though maybe I'm wrong
  3025. # [22:36] <baku> but keep in mind that cloneInto duplicates blobs, files, and other stuff that maybe you don't want to share with content.
  3026. # [22:36] <baku> khuey, not faster, but cleaner for sure :)
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  3028. # [22:36] <@khuey> indeed
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  3035. # [22:39] <Yoric> khuey: baku: Thanks.
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  3037. # [22:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be0c71ad1f18 - Jeff Walden - Bug 948227 - Make the Object.prototype.__proto__ setter strongly warn against its use, for perf reasons (and suggest Object.create instead). r=efaust
  3038. # [22:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96ae326e19d0 - Jeff Walden - Bug 948583 - Make __proto__ in object literals use JSObject::setProto, rather than depending on Object.prototype.__proto__. r=jorendorff, r=bholley, r=efaust
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  3045. # [22:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f434624463d9 - Viktor Stanchev - Bug 965837 - Add bool support to mozilla::Atomic. r=froydnj
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  3047. # [22:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/494eec74bb01 - Jim Chen - Bug 959218 - Avoid race condition when shutting down nsDeleteDir thread. r=mnovotny
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  3066. # [22:50] <RyanVM> roc: long gone
  3067. # [22:50] <RyanVM> what's up?
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  3072. # [22:52] <jwalker> gps: ping
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  3074. # [22:52] <gps> jwalker: pong
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  3079. # [22:53] <jwalker> where's the best place to learn about INSTALL_TARGETS
  3080. # [22:53] <jwalker> I looked at some examples, but can't get it working
  3081. # [22:53] <jwalker> I summed up the problem here: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4139036
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  3085. # [22:54] <gps> jwalker: you need to define INSTALL_TARGETS before rules.mk is included
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  3088. # [22:54] <gps> otherwise your code looks fine
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  3090. # [22:54] <jwalker> ok will try
  3091. # [22:54] <jwalker> tx
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  3106. # [22:58] <jwalden> RyanVM: I think probably for ambiguous operator== it's best to just back out and not screw around, fwiw :-)
  3107. # [22:58] <RyanVM> huh?
  3108. # [22:59] <RyanVM> mm, fun
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  3113. # [23:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/09e27ba697c2 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset f434624463d9 (bug 965837) for bustage.
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  3118. # [23:01] <RyanVM> whee
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  3146. # [23:08] <NeilAway> -webkit- prefixes, perhaps?
  3147. # [23:08] <KWierso|sheriffduty> webgl, afaict
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  3154. # [23:13] <NeilAway> KWierso|sheriffduty: ah, I always forget that doesn't work in VMs
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  3157. # [23:17] <glandium> bsmedberg: i will get to it today
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  3165. # [23:20] <efaust> hey, um
  3166. # [23:20] <efaust> gcc has a point
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  3168. # [23:20] <efaust> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4141048
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  3172. # [23:22] <efaust> who is a media peer that wants to review a one liner?
  3173. # [23:22] <bz> efaust: ouch
  3174. # [23:22] <bz> efaust: point indeed!
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  3177. # [23:22] <efaust> bz: r=you to change to 9? ;)
  3178. # [23:22] <bz> efaust: do we need to backport this? :(
  3179. # [23:23] <bz> efaust: totally r=me
  3180. # [23:23] <efaust> bz: it landed on the 15th
  3181. # [23:23] <efaust> bz: so...maybe
  3182. # [23:23] <efaust> so no
  3183. # [23:23] <efaust> the next uplift is monday
  3184. # [23:23] <efaust> so we're clean on backports
  3185. # [23:23] <bz> efaust: and maybe add some static asserts about how ArrayLength(cid_string) >= ArrayLength("mystring") ?
  3186. # [23:23] <efaust> just a silly mistake
  3187. # [23:23] * bz hopes we can use ArrayLength in a static assert
  3188. # [23:23] <jwalden> MOZ_ARRAY_LENGTH is static_assertable
  3189. # [23:24] <jwalden> ArrayLength depends on the compiler, sadly
  3190. # [23:24] <efaust> I'll come up with something
  3191. # [23:24] <jwalden> because constexpr
  3192. # [23:24] <squib> bz: if ArrayLength is constexpr, it would work
  3193. # [23:24] <efaust> I didn't think I would ever type this
  3194. # [23:24] <efaust> but, uh
  3195. # [23:24] <efaust> gcc++
  3196. # [23:25] <jwalden> itym g++
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  3198. # [23:25] <bkelly> does anyone know if gtests run in tbpl?
  3199. # [23:25] <jwalden> or maybe gcc-c++
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  3202. # [23:25] <squib> jwalden: i think efaust meant "one point to gcc"
  3203. # [23:25] <nthomas|mtg> bkelly: pretty sure they do in the make check part of B jobs
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  3205. # [23:26] <bkelly> nthomas|mtg: thanks!
  3206. # [23:26] <efaust> bz: what's the sanctioned static assert in moz-general code?
  3207. # [23:26] <jwalden> squib: you don't know me very well, do you? :-)
  3208. # [23:26] <squib> jwalden: no i don't :)
  3209. # [23:26] <jwalden> squib: it is usually a mistake to take me seriously
  3210. # [23:26] <bz> efaust: I think static_assert, nowadays
  3211. # [23:26] <efaust> bz: have we moved to static_assert() fully?
  3212. # [23:26] * bz is not sure
  3213. # [23:26] <squib> jwalden: i usually hang out in #gaia
  3214. # [23:26] <efaust> ok, well, let's go with that
  3215. # [23:27] <bz> g++++ is, unfortunately, not so easy to read. ;)
  3216. # [23:27] <bz> efaust: I'm pretty happy for you to use static_assert here. ;)
  3217. # [23:27] <squib> bz: also a compilation error i think
  3218. # [23:27] <squib> because g++ is an rvalue :)
  3219. # [23:27] <bz> squib: well, yes. ;)
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  3222. # [23:29] <jwalden> squib: http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/search?query=waldo is some context (I am usually Waldo, except when I have a busted primary laptop)
  3223. # [23:29] <efaust> bz: yeah, I have a patch. Running it through my build system and then I'll pastebin
  3224. # [23:29] <jwalden> g++ could be an lvalue, depending
  3225. # [23:30] <squib> yeah i was going to say it could be an object
  3226. # [23:30] <squib> but then i figured i'd already gone far enough
  3227. # [23:30] <jwalden> squib: see, that's one of presumably many points where you and I differ ;-)
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  3231. # [23:31] <bz> g++ could also have closed your window.
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  3234. # [23:31] <NeilAway> KWierso|sheriffduty: ah yes, I can remote desktop to a computer on which I had previously launched Gecko and it loads fine (event though I'm not getting any acceleration)
  3235. # [23:31] <bz> But I digress.
  3236. # [23:31] <bz> (if it were written in JS!)
  3237. # [23:32] <squib> now if only i could find that code that calculated the area of shapes you drew in C++ using operators
  3238. # [23:32] <squib> like x++++++x
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  3240. # [23:32] <jwalden> I think I remember seeing something crazy like that on the interwebs
  3241. # [23:33] <squib> and that's why C++ is a Good Language
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  3245. # [23:34] <NeilAway> efaust: isn't the right fix to make the parameter const char* so you can just pass a literal?
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  3249. # [23:36] <NeilAway> jwalden: IMHO mozilla::ArrayLength was a bad move, relying on constexpr as an optimisation
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  3253. # [23:36] * jwalden shrugs
  3254. # [23:37] <jwalden> the macro is rather less readable, IMO
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  3257. # [23:38] <squib> create a class template instead :D
  3258. # [23:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d890f0a4b655 - David Burns - Bug 965986: Correct typo in exception in Marionette Wait; r=mdas
  3259. # [23:39] <squib> (probably would not actually work)
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  3261. # [23:40] <reuben> squib: http://www.eelis.net/C++/analogliterals.xhtml
  3262. # [23:40] <reuben> jwalden: ^
  3263. # [23:40] <squib> reuben: awesome, thanks
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  3265. # [23:41] <efaust> NeilAway: sure looks that way. Let me see what the functions do inside.
  3266. # [23:41] <jwalden> reuben: yes, exactly that!
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  3270. # [23:43] <efaust> NeilAway: yeah, I think so.
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  3275. # [23:45] <efaust> NeilAway: is it kosher to modify headers in libmkv? I have no idea how tightly things are specified.
  3276. # [23:46] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: ruh roh
  3277. # [23:46] <RyanVM> yeah yeah
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  3279. # [23:46] <RyanVM> working on it
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  3290. # [23:48] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: have you seen b2g desktop builds time out seting up the enviroment before?
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  3292. # [23:48] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: wouldn't surprise me
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  3295. # [23:49] <josh> bsmedberg: Is it possible to get our IPC code to de-serialize an object to the heap instead of on the stack?
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  3299. # [23:50] <josh> bsmedberg: I need a heap-allocated object in the parent and right now I have to do a copy from the FooObj& that I get in an IPC callback
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  3309. # [23:55] <efaust> NeilAway: it breaks elfhack?
  3310. # [23:55] <efaust> I don't even know what elfhack is? :/
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  3312. # [23:55] <efaust> but every time I mention it, people make the sign of the cross
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  3314. # [23:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c828f256179 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 965961 - Remove unused css selectors for windows versions. r=bz
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  3316. # [23:56] <Archaeopteryx> efaust: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Elfhack
  3317. # [23:56] <tbsaunde> efaust: it rearranges relocations in elf shared objects (ask glandium or froydnj if you want to know more)
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  3323. # [23:58] <efaust> O.O
  3324. # [23:58] <efaust> OK, well, that's probably why there's this strcpy nonsense
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  3327. # [23:58] <tbsaunde> hm? what strcpy nonsense?
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  3330. # [23:59] <jwalden> hold onto your butts
  3331. # [23:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/739b4300adae - Benoit Jacob - Bug 962784 - Convert ImageTypes.h to typed enums - r=jrmuizel
  3332. # [23:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2cf4e419eb96 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 964442 - Make CreateImage just take a plain format parameter - r=jrmuizel
  3333. # [23:59] <jwalden> ...or no
  3334. # [23:59] <jwalden> scumbag bjacob_ :-)
  3335. # [23:59] <efaust> jwalden: lots of scumbags around todya
  3336. # [23:59] <bjacob_> jwalden: what ?
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