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- # Session Start: Mon Feb 03 00:00:01 2014
- # Session Ident: #developers
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- # [00:02] <@njn> philor: makes sense
- # [00:02] <@gavin> no backouts please
- # [00:02] <@gavin> let's investigate first
- # [00:02] * @njn was waiting for that
- # [00:03] <@njn> gavin: if we have someone to investigate it right now, than ok
- # [00:03] <@njn> s/than/then/
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- # [00:04] <markh> njn: yeah, I was more thinking about after I experiment :) So what does that job do exactly? eg, I was thinking of disabling one browser-chrome test to see if that triggers it, but are those tests even run?
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- # [00:04] <@njn> markh: it's really basic; just starts the browser, loads a few pages, runs sunspider, then quits
- # [00:04] <@gavin> njn: I'm here, mark's here, can you help?
- # [00:04] <@njn> gavin: yes
- # [00:04] <@njn> gavin: I'm building now, I'll see if it reproduces just with startup/shutdown
- # [00:05] <@njn> markh: are you on Windows?
- # [00:05] <@gavin> can this usefully be debugged on Mac/Windows?
- # [00:05] <@njn> linux is best for working with Valgrind; Mac is so-so; Windows doesn't work
- # [00:05] <@gavin> ok
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- # [00:05] <markh> njn: yes
- # [00:05] <@njn> gavin: if I can reproduce locally I'll be able to give a longer stack trace
- # [00:06] <@njn> markh: so you won't be able to reproduce the Valgrind error, but it's already told us what's leaked, it's our job to work out why, which is just a code reading exercise
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- # [00:08] <markh> yeah - the DirectProxy is the proxy for different js compartments, right? I was trying tot think about what might use them. about:accounts was my first guess, but it looks like that test will not hit that.
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- # [00:08] <@gavin> njn: for mac, do I just want --enable-valgrind/--disable-jemalloc?
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- # [00:09] <@njn> gavin: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Valgrind_test_job
- # [00:09] <@gavin> thanks
- # [00:09] <@njn> gavin: I assume you want to not backout now because of the big Sync-in-FF29 push?
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- # [00:13] <@gavin> njn: yes (https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2014/02/01/test-the-new-firefox-sync-on-nightly-release-channel/)
- # [00:15] <@njn> gavin: I can reproduce locally after reducing the test to basically nothing (i.e. start and shutdown)
- # [00:15] <@njn> this gets printed along the way:
- # [00:15] <@njn> 1391382616694 Sync.BrowserIDManager TRACE initializeWithCurrentIdentity
- # [00:15] <@njn> 1391382619400 Sync.BrowserIDManager INFO initializeWithCurrentIdentity has no user logged in
- # [00:15] <@njn> so it looks like the leak is in the sync init code
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- # [00:19] <@gavin> markh: I think you know the startup code better than I
- # [00:19] <markh> yeah
- # [00:19] <@gavin> should that be happening in a normal profile?
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- # [00:19] <markh> no :( Line 50 of browser-fxaccounts is causing sync to fully initialize.
- # [00:19] <markh> I think that's easily fixed though
- # [00:20] <@njn> ttaubert, markh, gavin: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=966136#c53 has the full stack trace for the allocation
- # [00:21] <@njn> ttaubert: by all means do a Valgrind build, but looking at the code is more useful at this point; Valgrind's given us as much info as it's going to
- # [00:21] <markh> so I suspect this leak always existed, it's just that we are initializing sync now, where that never happened before
- # [00:21] <ttaubert> njn: but it can tell whether we fixed it no?
- # [00:21] <@njn> ttaubert: yes
- # [00:22] <markh> so I think something like https://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/4167829 might return that to the old status-quo
- # [00:22] <ttaubert> markh: yeah I had the same thought
- # [00:22] <@njn> markh: what does that do?
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- # [00:23] <markh> njn: checks if sync is initialized before referenging Weave.Service.identity, which implicitly imitializes it
- # [00:23] <@njn> markh: I suspect that would fix the test, but would the leak still happen later in normal use?
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- # [00:24] <markh> njn: I suspect that leak would always have been reported if sync was initialized as part of normal browser startup
- # [00:24] <markh> ie, I don't think the new work introduced a leak, just introduced an "early init"
- # [00:24] <@gavin> right
- # [00:24] <@njn> markh: does your patch fix the leak, or just delay it?
- # [00:24] <@gavin> so priority #1: don't initialie sync unnecessarily
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- # [00:24] <@gavin> priority #2: make sync not lek
- # [00:25] <@njn> #1 is good for start-up time, too
- # [00:25] <markh> njn: it would just return sync to its previous "leak once sync is initialized" state
- # [00:25] <@njn> markh: ok, I see; we're now initializing earlier than we would have
- # [00:25] <markh> yes
- # [00:25] <@njn> markh: want me to try your patch?
- # [00:25] <markh> njn: yes please.
- # [00:26] <markh> with that patch, my browser no longer reports sync initializing at startup
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- # [00:28] <@njn> markh: should have an answer in about 2 minutes
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- # [00:30] <@njn> markh: yep, the leak report is gone
- # [00:30] <markh> yay :)
- # [00:30] <markh> I'll open a bug
- # [00:30] <ttaubert> great "fix"
- # [00:30] <ttaubert> :)
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- # [00:32] <@njn> ttaubert: and next time you'll include the Valgrind test job in you try pushes, won't you :)
- # [00:33] <ttaubert> njn: indeed. that wouldn't hrut
- # [00:33] <ttaubert> not hurt even
- # [00:33] * @njn wonders if he should be worried that unnecessary sync initialization at start-up was detected in this indirect fashion
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- # [00:35] <markh> njn: that's obviously not ideal :/
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- # [00:36] <@gavin> it's early days in sync development!
- # [00:36] <markh> (and in out half-hearted defense, that always been true)
- # [00:36] <markh> *our
- # [00:37] <markh> (that no tests exist for early init)
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- # [00:38] <@njn> markh: thanks for the quick patch
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- # [00:38] <markh> np, thanks for not summarily backing out :)
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- # [00:39] <@njn> markh: you're lucky one of the sheriffs didn't do it, since it's been failing consistently for several days
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- # [00:39] <@njn> evidently the sheriffs don't fully trust the Valgrind test job results yet
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- # [00:40] <markh> yay for the sheriff's lack of trust ;)
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- # [00:43] <markh> ttaubert, gavin: land that on fx-team, or straight to central?
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- # [00:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5e41335ed0a4 - Mark Hammond - Bug 966823 - ensure checking if there is a login error doesn't initialize sync too early. r=ttaubert
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- # [00:59] <@gavin> markh: don't think it matters too much either central's good
- # [00:59] <@gavin> I'll file the followup
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- # [00:59] <markh> gavin: already filed bug 966824
- # [01:01] <@gavin> oh
- # [01:01] <@gavin> haha, I filed 966824
- # [01:01] <@gavin> er, 966825
- # [01:01] <ttaubert> heh
- # [01:02] <@gavin> markh, ttaubert, njn: thanks
- # [01:02] <markh> it was much easier to avoid stepping on each others toes when we were trapped in the same room :)
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- # [01:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c1a52c46888 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 966673 - Valgrind-on-TBPL: suppress a leak in libresolv-2.12.so. r=gkw.
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- # [01:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3071397da31 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 946502. Part 5: A ViewportFrame with a displayport on the root element needs to be an animated geometry root. r=mattwoodrow
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- # [01:56] <markh> njn: central has a green valgrind run after landing that patch. I'll leave it to you (or someone else) to close bug 966136
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- # [01:57] <@njn> markh: done, thanks!
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- # [04:03] <jesup> glandium: I posted a minor tweak to the libyuv import (bug 880419) If I can get r+'s on the two little delta patches there, I can land it later tonight before uplift. Thanks! (weird that we define HAVE_ARM_NEON on a v6...)
- # [04:03] <jesup> glandium: bbia while
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- # [04:08] <@gavin> njn: valgrind: Bad option: --vex-iropt-register-updates=allregs-at-mem-access
- # [04:08] <@njn> gavin: what does |valgrind --version| say?
- # [04:08] <@gavin> njn: do I need a newer valgrind than 3.7.0
- # [04:08] <@njn> gavin: 3.8.0
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- # [04:09] <@gavin> ok
- # [04:09] <@njn> gavin: 3.8.0 was release in August 2012
- # [04:10] <@gavin> I don't know where I got 3.7.0
- # [04:10] * mjrosenb read that as gavin-3.8.0 was released in august 2012
- # [04:11] <@gavin> configure: error: Valgrind works on Darwin 10.x and 11.x (Mac OS X 10.6/7)
- # [04:11] <mjrosenb> I was very surprised that gavin has had that many revision bumps.
- # [04:11] <@gavin> (3.8.1)
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- # [04:11] <@gavin> I uppose I should try 3.9.0
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- # [04:11] <mjrosenb> hasn't 3.9 been released, or do I just not know what versions are around because I build from svn?
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- # [04:12] <@njn> gavin: 3.9.0 works on Darwin 12.0, judging by the configure.ac file
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- # [04:13] <@njn> gavin: and the 3.9.0 release notes say "Support for MacOSX 10.8 is significantly improved relative to the 3.8.0 release."
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- # [04:13] <@gavin> ok
- # [04:16] <@gavin> hmm, same configure error with 3.9.0
- # [04:17] <@gavin> "AMD64/Darwin (Mac OS X 10.7 and, to a limited extent, 10.8)"
- # [04:17] <@gavin> let's try trunk...
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- # [04:24] <@roc> has anyone investigated "No permission to use the keyboard API for http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net"?
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- # [04:27] <philor> sounds like a win to me
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- # [04:30] <@roc> I'd like to know why it's trying to use the keyboard API in the first place!
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- # [04:32] <dougt> roc: i'd help... but:
- # [04:32] <dougt> ~/ $ grep doubleclick.net /etc/hosts | wc -l
- # [04:32] <dougt> 104
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- # [04:32] <dougt> :)
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- # [04:37] <jcranmer> hmm
- # [04:37] <jcranmer> is it wrong of me to do hg qpop; sed -e s/blah/foo/ <pathch file>; hg qpush?
- # [04:39] <mjrosenb> jcranmer: are blah and foo directories?
- # [04:40] <jcranmer> nope
- # [04:40] <jcranmer> class names
- # [04:40] <mjrosenb> jcranmer: fwiw, I did something similar with the ion -> jit renaming a while back
- # [04:40] <mjrosenb> jcranmer: but I used emac's interactive search/replace tool
- # [04:40] <jcranmer> I suppose I should have first checked to make sure I wasn't trashing anything in the context
- # [04:40] <mjrosenb> because "ion" appears all over the place, and in places where it shouldn't be updated.
- # [04:42] <mjrosenb> jcranmer: if you only want to change things in code you've edited, sed -e 's/^\(+.*)blah/\1foo/g' :-)
- # [04:42] <jcranmer> well, it worked anyways
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- # [04:46] <@gavin> same configure error with valgrind trunk
- # [04:46] <@gavin> seems like it doesn't like 10.9
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- # [07:03] <@njn> Chancellor of the Ex-spell-chequer
- # [07:06] <Callek> glandium: where is said bug that was part of my condition on checking that in?
- # [07:07] <mjrosenb> njn: do any of the core V devs use macs as their primary machines?
- # [07:07] <@njn> mjrosenb: no
- # [07:09] <tbsaunde> Callek: bug to do what?
- # [07:10] <Callek> tbsaunde: https://callek.pastebin.mozilla.org/4170309
- # [07:10] <Callek> tbsaunde: specifically I want glandium to agree with that *in bug* and file a new bug for the agreed state
- # [07:10] <Callek> otherwise I'm gonna back him out tomorrow
- # [07:11] <Callek> (yes I'm willing to backout a bustage fix on principle)
- # [07:12] <gwagner> any sheriffs around?
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- # [07:17] <tbsaunde> Callek: I thought using tooltool for l10n was sort of intentional? we've certainly hacked around it in similar ways before
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- # [07:18] <tbsaunde> on one hand having things be the same would be nice, on the other downloading ~80mb just to compile nsinstall is pretty stupid
- # [07:18] <Callek> tbsaunde: we're *not* using tooltool for l10n, and glandiums issue was that he is purposefully diverging m-c code from l10n code by using a gcc installed via tooltool but not using tooltool for l10n
- # [07:18] <Callek> I assert that we've been bit, *hard* by diverging the l10n build process from m-c build process before... and we should not proliferate that
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- # [07:20] <tbsaunde> Callek: what I think I'm arguing is that a better plan is tostop building nsinstall all together in l10n builds
- # [07:21] <tbsaunde> and in the mean time compiling it with different compilers is not an important difference compared to other things
- # [07:21] <glob> who are "core V devs" ?
- # [07:22] <Callek> tbsaunde: basically my point being "if I have to approve this patch myself, then I think tooltool should be used for l10n as well and this should be a stopgap only, and please file other bug" --- "if I approve this patch and you disagree please do as I say anyway and get people together to discuss" --- "if you disagree and don't want to do the latter followup planning with bugs, I'm backing...
- # [07:22] <Callek> ...out" ;-)
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- # [07:23] <Callek> tbsaunde: l10n is sooooo fragile that compiling with different compilers can mean problems later, especially when later may mean 'we learn in beta times, and spend a lot of cycles trying to fix TB or Firefox L10n on beta -- which is far too late to fix most systemic issues"
- # [07:23] <tbsaunde> Callek: fwiw we've been using a different compiler on mac probably for ages
- # [07:24] <tbsaunde> its a much larger difference (clang 3.0 vs clang 3.3)
- # [07:24] <gwagner> :jesup ping
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- # [07:24] <jesup> gwagner: pong
- # [07:25] <gwagner> jesup: quick question about bug 853356. we need to back it out and I saw that you landed it
- # [07:25] <tbsaunde> Callek: but if you feel like breaking l10n builds and getting tooltool going that's just fine with me ;)
- # [07:25] <gwagner> is this the only cset that landed? https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/b1e246595663
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- # [07:26] <Callek> tbsaunde: basically, imo, this is not a change I feel comfortable putting my name on without the final plan being to implement tooltool for l10n, if catlee's team {the release engineers behind doing release automation/release bustage) and build-peers jointly are ok with that patch and what it entails than thats fine, I don't care enough to block
- # [07:26] <Callek> tbsaunde: its that "I'm ok with this" means that if it breaks later without my plan being fleshed/followed through on (even if my plan means I do it, and glandium files said bug) then I'm still on the hook for fixing it
- # [07:26] <jesup> looking... I believe there was only one, yes, as marked in the bug
- # [07:26] <Callek> tbsaunde: I'm ok with stopgap-landing if the other work is filed in a bug by glandium -- :-)
- # [07:27] <Callek> which was my rs+
- # [07:27] <gwagner> jesup: ok so we should be good by just backing this one out.
- # [07:27] <Callek> I'm not ok with ignoring my requirement about other bug plan as I see it to land a patch, even if someone dissagrees with my opinion (even if the disagreement proves well founded/appropriate) at least not ok when they still wish to use my name for an rs+
- # [07:28] <tbsaunde> Callek: yeah, that's fair
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- # [07:29] <tbsaunde> Callek: heh, no worries
- # [07:29] <jesup> gwagner: yes. Sigh. Supposedly the bug blocking it had been fixed by bug 948846
- # [07:30] <jesup> Any build peers on?
- # [07:30] <jesup> glandium: ping
- # [07:30] <gwagner> jesup: is it ok to back it out or will it turn anything else orange?
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- # [07:33] <jesup> No, it should be possible to back it out I believe. Why in the <deleted> the system is so sensitive to work for a video permissions prompt that things like this break.... it's like touching a house of cards (and I didn't write any part of this patch, I'm just observing)
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- # [07:35] <Callek> jesup: fwiw if libyuv update affects desktop I'm [selfishly] happy yo ucan't get said r+
- # [07:36] <gwagner> jesup: yeah the permission prompt code is far to complex
- # [07:36] <Callek> jesup: strictly because of SeaMonkey -- and the difficulty it took to get libyuv (version we have) installed in the first place
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- # [07:37] <Callek> jesup: so should you think of it, when you get r+ please ping me so I can gather info from you ;-)
- # [07:37] <jesup> Callek: How about you give the patches in bug 880419 try on Seamonkey?
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- # [07:38] <Callek> jesup: its more the "should libyuv update be needed on build machines I want to know if you can think of it"
- # [07:38] <jesup> I'd far prefer to get any fix in before landing it (especially if it slips to 30)
- # [07:38] <Callek> if the existing libyuv on machines needs no change I might want/need to know
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- # [07:39] <jesup> I really doubt the existing one needs to change on the builder
- # [07:39] <Callek> (on th ebright side, I just got delivered to me a batch of like 10 cent6 machines, but I need buildbot/config/etc changes to use them on the seamonkey side)
- # [07:39] <Callek> jesup: if the machines in moco pool don't need changing, its likely seamonkey won't eithe r-- thanks
- # [07:39] <jesup> We should always be using our internal libyuv includes/etc
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- # [07:40] <jesup> This updates to current, and also moves it from media/webrtc/trunk/third_party/libyuv to media/libyuv so everyone can use it easily
- # [07:41] <jesup> and we get AVX2 improvements for Haswell CPUs, plus a bunch of other improvements
- # [07:43] <jesup> Ah well. I need to sleep, and I got landed the libjpeg improvements (Motion JPEG support for webcams above ~640x480) and nailed the annoying ASAN bug introduced when we moved SendBlob() to use a background thread to read the blob (for B2G, though I like getting that off MainThread for other reasons)
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- # [09:17] <@roc> anyone know exactly what it means to "doom" a cache entry?
- # [09:17] <@roc> anyone know exactly what it means to "doom" a cache entry?
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- # [09:18] <@roc> in fact, anyone around who knows anything about the (old) Necko cache at all?
- # [09:18] <@roc> in fact, anyone around who knows anything about the (old) Necko cache at all?
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- # [09:33] <dougt> roc: you want #necko and probably michal.
- # [09:33] <dougt> roc: you want #necko and probably michal.
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- # [09:58] <@roc> all silent on the necko front
- # [09:58] <@roc> all silent on the necko front
- # [10:00] <bagder> so many necko people not too early euro-timezony
- # [10:00] <bagder> so many necko people not too early euro-timezony
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- # [10:20] <NeilAway> roc: some pages enumerate the global, which triggers that permission check, or something
- # [10:20] <NeilAway> roc: some pages enumerate the global, which triggers that permission check, or something
- # [10:21] <NeilAway> mjrosenb: prefer sed -e '/^+/s/foo/bar/g'
- # [10:21] <NeilAway> mjrosenb: prefer sed -e '/^+/s/foo/bar/g'
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- # [10:41] <grubshka> Hi, could someone help me with a XPCOM C++ compilation please?
- # [10:41] <grubshka> Hi, could someone help me with a XPCOM C++ compilation please?
- # [10:42] <tbsaunde> grubshka: maybe if you ask the actual question ;)
- # [10:42] <tbsaunde> grubshka: maybe if you ask the actual question ;)
- # [10:42] <grubshka> tbsaunde, I often asked without answer, so now I ask before :)
- # [10:42] <grubshka> tbsaunde, I often asked without answer, so now I ask before :)
- # [10:43] <grubshka> ok, I'm a C++ component that I build with Firefox. Since Firefox 27, my library takes 6Mo on Linux and Mac, it was 60Ko before!
- # [10:43] <grubshka> ok, I'm a C++ component that I build with Firefox. Since Firefox 27, my library takes 6Mo on Linux and Mac, it was 60Ko before!
- # [10:44] <grubshka> I had a compilation problem, so I added $(MOZ_ZLIB_LIBS) in EXTRA_DSO_LDOPTS in the Makefile.in.
- # [10:44] <grubshka> I had a compilation problem, so I added $(MOZ_ZLIB_LIBS) in EXTRA_DSO_LDOPTS in the Makefile.in.
- # [10:45] <grubshka> I changed some things (Makefile.in to moz.build and some code adaptations) so I'm not sure the problem comes from Zlib...
- # [10:45] <grubshka> I changed some things (Makefile.in to moz.build and some code adaptations) so I'm not sure the problem comes from Zlib...
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- # [10:46] <grubshka> tbsaunde, so my first question would be: when I add $(MOZ_ZLIB_LIBS) to EXTRA_DSO_LDOPTS, is this including the zlib library in my library?
- # [10:46] <grubshka> tbsaunde, so my first question would be: when I add $(MOZ_ZLIB_LIBS) to EXTRA_DSO_LDOPTS, is this including the zlib library in my library?
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- # [10:50] <grubshka> tbsaunde, you see, even if I ask the question :-D
- # [10:50] <grubshka> tbsaunde, you see, even if I ask the question :-D
- # [10:50] <grubshka> tbsaunde, just to know, is my question understandable? Maybe I don't explain it well?
- # [10:50] <grubshka> tbsaunde, just to know, is my question understandable? Maybe I don't explain it well?
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- # [10:59] <evilpie> "I'm a C++ component that I build with Firefox" so like an addon?
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- # [13:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/822677d8f943 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge fx-team to mozilla-central
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- # [13:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b6cc3c35d419 - Sam Foster - Bug 950904 - Add UITelemetry probe to capture window width & height. r=jimm
- # [13:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a91b8e6b8dcc - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-c to f-t
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- # [13:12] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: will there be another merge before uplift?
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- # [13:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: i guess Ryan will do one
- # [13:13] <Gijs> OK.
- # [13:14] <Ms2ger> Oh, uplift
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- # [13:25] <Unfocused> oh good, we don't have to land directly on m-c then
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- # [13:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6be5d432b1b6 - Blair McBride - Bug 966933 - [Australis] UITour: Add a UI tour link in the Help menu (Part 1: strings only), r=gijs, DONTBUILD because just some strings
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- # [13:32] <Unfocused> ... but we will anyway
- # [13:32] <Unfocused> bwahahahaha
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- # [13:33] <Unfocused> jokes on you, i didn't land it
- # [13:33] <Unfocused> :P
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- # [13:34] <Gijs> Ms2ger: why would you, anyway?
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- # [13:35] <Ms2ger> I'm not a nice person, clearly
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- # [13:46] <Gijs> capella: ping
- # [13:46] <capella> ack ping gijs
- # [13:47] <Gijs> capella: I don't understand "Normally I can switch from desktop to Metro by pressing the "Windows 8 Touch" icon which I've customized / placed first / top-left in the address-bar line."
- # [13:47] <Gijs> what do you mean?
- # [13:47] <capella> FF desktop for Win 8.x switchs between desktop mode and metro mode via an icon in the customized list
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- # [13:48] <Gijs> yes, I know that.
- # [13:48] <capella> I just stated specifically where I've located mine in case that matters
- # [13:48] <Gijs> What does "address-bar line" mean?
- # [13:48] <capella> url: line? awesomebar?
- # [13:49] <Gijs> capella: you mean it's on the navigation toolbar (navbar) ?
- # [13:49] <capella> That's the thing ! :)
- # [13:49] <Gijs> that's... odd.
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- # [13:49] <Gijs> that method should only be run inside the menu panel
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- # [13:50] <capella> I can backout my backout and see if it comes back? (starts failing again) ... ?
- # [13:50] <capella> and play with the location of the icon
- # [13:51] <Gijs> capella: can you reproduce that with any other icons?
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- # [13:51] <capella> er ... place a diff icon in that position then see if the metro icon switchs properly?
- # [13:52] <Gijs> no, place a different icon in the toolbar and check if clicking it produces the same error
- # [13:52] <Gijs> but by now I've figured out why this happens anyway. :)
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- # [13:52] <Gijs> I'll file a new bug and CC you
- # [13:52] <capella> Oh, see if console message appears ... ok - couple secs
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- # [13:53] <capella> rebuilding w/your patch ...
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- # [13:55] <capella> and just spotted that you know the answer ... nice :D
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- # [14:15] <hsivonen> are there some docs that explain how Holly is going to work from now on?
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- # [14:15] <Gijs> hsivonen: docs of what kind? I mean, I think the answer is just 'no', but I'm not entirely sure what you want to know :)
- # [14:15] <Gijs> hsivonen: dolske's announcement said "* We will, per previous plans, cease maintaining the backout-branch for Nightly ("Holly"), and will instead be maintaining a backout-branch for Aurora. We may (pending further discussion) drop this branch as well if/when it becomes obvious that we will be uplifting to Beta. "
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- # [14:16] <Gijs> hsivonen: I would assume, for reasons of simplicity, that we will use holly as the aurora backout branch
- # [14:16] <Gijs> but either way.
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- # [14:16] <hsivonen> Gijs: right, but is Holly going to be the Aurora backout branch? or will there be something new?
- # [14:17] <Gijs> " When Australis is merged to Aurora, the backout branch will follow to Aurora. We won't have a separate backout branch for mozilla-central anymore at that point. "
- # [14:17] <Gijs> so, yes.
- # [14:17] <Gijs> (that last quote from https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Australis_Meeting_Notes )
- # [14:17] <hsivonen> Gijs: ok. thanks
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- # [14:24] <Gijs> capella: fixed on fx-team. Thanks for bringing that to our attention.
- # [14:24] <Unfocused> yay for quick iteration
- # [14:25] <Gijs> quite.
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- # [14:25] <capella> oh sure ... I patch things ... I find things :)
- # [14:25] <Unfocused> gijs breaks things
- # [14:25] <Unfocused> ;)
- # [14:25] <capella> heheh
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- # [14:27] <Gijs> :(
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- # [14:29] <Unfocused> as they say, you can't bake a cake without breaking a few windows
- # [14:30] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: i guess you will make another merge before the uplift right ? Gijs asked some minutes ago that :)
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- # [14:30] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hard to predict
- # [14:30] <RyanVM> no guarantees
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- # [14:30] <froydnj> what's the current price for having another merge before the uplift? :)
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- # [14:34] <RyanVM> froydnj: nobody busting inbound in the mean time
- # [14:35] <RyanVM> which *never* happens when people rush to get their stuff in ahead of the uplift
- # [14:35] <RyanVM> I don't understand the rush, though
- # [14:35] <RyanVM> the first Aurora29 builds won't go out until Friday anyway
- # [14:35] <RyanVM> so land it and request uplift if needed
- # [14:36] <RyanVM> but anyway, it really depends on when RelMan starts the uplift
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- # [14:36] <RyanVM> and I don't know when that'll be
- # [14:37] <reuben> nanananana relman!
- # [14:38] <RyanVM> Though I'm backing out bug 941805 right now and would like to get that on m-c before the uplift
- # [14:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/80286bae0d73 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 45840c6628d7 and acadb164dbc5 (bug 941805) for causing bug 966782.
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- # [14:39] <Unfocused> RyanVM: oh, no, you misunderstand. the important people here (gjis and i) don't care about inbound, only fx-team
- # [14:39] <RyanVM> Unfocused: OH! WELL IN THAT CASE!
- # [14:39] <Unfocused> :)
- # [14:39] <Unfocused> i'm glad you finally understand
- # [14:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> lol
- # [14:40] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I just backed out bug 941805
- # [14:40] <hsivonen> wow. push to try is *slow* today. (I mean the push itself.)
- # [14:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: yeah saw this
- # [14:40] <RyanVM> for all those ptthread crashes
- # [14:40] * RyanVM wishes philor would have just done the deed over the weekend
- # [14:40] <RyanVM> Unfocused: anything for you, boss!
- # [14:41] <Unfocused> i'm probably delusional from lack of sleep at this stage... i think i should probably just give up for the night
- # [14:41] <Gijs> Unfocused: do you want me to look at that telemetry patch?
- # [14:42] <RyanVM> Gijs: Unfocused: i'll try to get fx-team over before the uplift, but no promises
- # [14:42] <Unfocused> Gijs: nah, the tour isna't going to be active until a couple of days after the merge thankfully
- # [14:42] <Unfocused> RyanVM: thanks :)
- # [14:42] <RyanVM> Unfocused: yeah, Friday's your real deadline here FWIW
- # [14:42] <Gijs> RyanVM: sure, that'd be appreciated. We're not that worried about much, just strings really... and for that, I believe builds won't matter, it's just what'll be on the branch. :(
- # [14:42] <RyanVM> yeah, don't know what the story is on that
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- # [14:42] <RyanVM> l10n is tricky :(
- # [14:42] <Gijs> Quite.
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- # [14:47] <@bz> Man
- # [14:47] <@bz> our mirrors suck so much. :(
- # [14:47] * @bz is randomly getting 70JB/s
- # [14:47] <@bz> er, KB/s
- # [14:47] <RyanVM> jigabytes?
- # [14:47] <@bz> depending on which mirror I connect to.
- # [14:47] <@bz> RyanVM: I wish!
- # [14:47] <@bz> RyanVM: It's more like millibytes. :(
- # [14:48] <@bz> I thought ftp:// didn't hit the mirror network, but it seems to as well
- # [14:48] <@bz> I'll get a few downloads at the normal speed (5MB/s)
- # [14:48] <@bz> then one that goes at 70KB/s
- # [14:48] <@bz> if I kill it and just restart, chances are I get 5MB/s again
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- # [14:51] <@bz> it's really annoying
- # [14:51] <@bz> makes what should be a totally automated task be very manual. :(
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- # [14:58] <@bz> froydnj: ;)
- # [15:00] <mihaelav> Hi Gijs
- # [15:00] <Gijs> mihaelav: hi.
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- # [15:01] <mihaelav> I wasn't able to reproduce the test failure from this bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=947914 locally
- # [15:01] <mihaelav> do you have any ideas of what else I should try to get this to work?
- # [15:02] <mihaelav> I'm thinking it's something related with that build machine...
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- # [15:04] <Gijs> mihaelav: I think we should land it after the uplift.
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- # [15:08] <mihaelav> Gijs: you mean the merge...to aurora?
- # [15:08] <Gijs> yes
- # [15:09] <mihaelav> ok...so I'll leave the tests as they are for now
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- # [15:35] <froydnj> yes
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- # [15:39] <@bz> Is anybody currently reading this channel a pedant?
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- # [15:40] <paul> that's a weird question…
- # [15:41] <Ms2ger> Yes
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- # [15:41] <Gijs> bz++
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- # [15:42] <jgraham> bz: Pedantic note: you seem to have missed the word "not"
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- # [15:43] <froydnj> hm, SummaryLoader.js has apparently hung my browser
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- # [15:44] <Yoric> Yeah, after "just" 86 minutes, my windows clobber + build has completed.
- # [15:45] <froydnj> Yoric: time to ask for an upgrade!
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- # [15:45] <jimm> that seems rather long
- # [15:45] <jimm> I can do a clobber on a surface pro 1 in 46 minutes
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- # [16:04] <Callek> anyone have a clue how to configure hg diff (etc) to NOT use less/more/whatever on windows
- # [16:04] <Callek> basically I want to explicitly NOT use a pager
- # [16:05] <@bz> hrm
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- # [16:05] <@bz> On Mac it doesn't use a pager for me...
- # [16:06] <froydnj> Callek: [pager]\nignore = diff, log, etc.
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- # [16:06] <froydnj> Callek: in your .hgrc
- # [16:06] <Callek> froydnj: is there any "all" form?
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- # [16:07] <froydnj> Callek: um. don't load the pager extension, I guess?
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- # [16:07] <Callek> its enabled by default on windows :(
- # [16:07] <Callek> afaict
- # [16:08] <froydnj> hm
- # [16:08] <froydnj> I am out of ideas :(
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- # [16:09] <@bz> [pager]
- # [16:09] <@bz> attend =
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- # [16:09] <Callek> bz++
- # [16:09] <@bz> if I read "hg help pager" correctly
- # [16:09] <Callek> thanks guys
- # [16:10] <@bz> er, wait
- # [16:10] <@bz> no
- # [16:10] <froydnj> bz: it looks like that causes all commands to be paged
- # [16:10] <@bz> that's the reverse of what you want
- # [16:10] <Ms2ger> Ha
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- # [16:10] <@bz> I wonder what this does:
- # [16:10] <@bz> [pager]
- # [16:10] <@bz> attend = diff
- # [16:10] <@bz> ignore = diff
- # [16:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee98436d195d - Marco Bonardo - Bug 928734 - Intermittent test_419731.js | "title 2" == "new title 1". r=mano
- # [16:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa5a42f85d50 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 767939 - Editing a bookmark and changing URL drops tags. r=dietrich
- # [16:10] <Callek> If pager.attend is present, pager.ignore will be ignored.
- # [16:11] <@bz> gah
- # [16:11] <froydnj> "If neither pager.pager, nor $PAGER is set, no pager is used."
- # [16:11] <@bz> This is dumb.
- # [16:11] <froydnj> so maybe [pager] in .hgrc and |unset PAGER| in your $SHELL.rc
- # [16:11] <Callek> oooo To explicitly disable an extension enabled in a configuration file of broader scope, prepend its path with !:
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- # [16:12] <froydnj> sounds promising
- # [16:12] <@bz> yeah
- # [16:12] <@bz> Try
- # [16:12] <@bz> pager=!
- # [16:12] <@bz> in [extensions]
- # [16:12] <Callek> _purfect_
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- # [16:12] <@bz> Now how do I do this with git... ;)
- # [16:12] * @bz hates how git uses a pager for diffs
- # [16:13] <froydnj> why?
- # [16:13] <Callek> REMINDER -- Tree closure in ~2 hours for release engineering firewall maint in scl3 -- REMINDER [expected duration < 1 hour]
- # [16:13] * froydnj dislikes it only because it doesn't play well with emacs *shell*
- # [16:14] <Callek> edmorley|sheriffduty: fyi ^
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- # [16:14] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ty
- # [16:14] <@bz> froydnj: because I have a perfectly good paging mechanism in my terminal already
- # [16:15] <@bz> froydnj: and if I want to both look at the diff and type I suddenly need two terminals
- # [16:15] <@bz> froydnj: which is super-annoying
- # [16:16] <Gijs> Callek: 2h?
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- # [16:16] <Callek> Gijs: 9am PT
- # [16:16] <Ms2ger> 1h47
- # [16:16] <froydnj> git manpage: 'see the "Configuration Mechanism" section below'
- # [16:16] <froydnj> there is no "Configuration Mechanism" section =/
- # [16:16] <Gijs> Callek: yes, apparently I've just lost the ability to do basic maths. Carry on!
- # [16:17] <@bz> froydnj: Sounds like git, yes
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- # [16:18] <froydnj> bz: [core]\n\tpager = in .git/config or ~/.gitconfig wfm
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- # [16:19] <tbsaunde> bz: huh, imo less is a far better pager than my terminal
- # [16:20] <tbsaunde> for one thing I generally want to start reading at the beginning not the end
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- # [16:23] <@bz> tbsaunde: The vast majority of my patches are actually short enough to fit in my terminal
- # [16:23] <@bz> tbsaunde: or so it feels like....
- # [16:24] <@bz> froydnj: Thanks!
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- # [16:24] <jdm> boo, glob uses unicode characters for <> in his bugzilla name
- # [16:24] <jdm> that messes up my scripts to automatically strip those
- # [16:24] <jdm> freeform text is the worst
- # [16:25] <ttaubert> freedom text
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- # [16:26] <@ehsan> jdm: all characters are unicode characters!
- # [16:26] <froydnj> ehsan++
- # [16:26] <jdm> out
- # [16:27] <jdm> out I say
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- # [16:27] <@ehsan> هاهاهاها
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- # [16:27] <@ehsan> :D
- # [16:27] <@ehsan> (for those following along at home, that was "hahahaha")
- # [16:28] <froydnj> I thought it was lolol for very small values of "out"
- # [16:28] <catlee> so...
- # [16:28] <catlee> I'm watching firefox in gdb
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- # [16:28] <catlee> and it's constantly getting SIGSEGV, and yet continuing to run
- # [16:29] <catlee> sometimes SIGPIPE
- # [16:29] <@ehsan> catlee: can you get a backtrace?
- # [16:29] <froydnj> ooo, do mozilla.com addresses support gmail-style +extensions?
- # [16:29] <froydnj> catlee: suspect asm.js at fault
- # [16:29] <Yoric> froydnj: Oh?
- # [16:29] <Yoric> froydnj: That would be nice.
- # [16:29] <@ehsan> we have segfault handlers in other places in js/src as well apparently
- # [16:29] <Yoric> (not asm.js, mozilla.com)
- # [16:29] <catlee> ehsan: yeah
- # [16:29] <froydnj> Yoric: asm.js is nice too ;)
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- # [16:30] <catlee> js::jit::PatchJump
- # [16:30] <@ehsan> catlee: check out the workaround in bug 957729
- # [16:30] <Yoric> Well, segfaults in asm.js, less so :)
- # [16:30] <@ehsan> catlee: and *please* complain on that bug
- # [16:30] <Ms2ger> ehsan, though there should be something autoloaded to fix that, no?
- # [16:30] <Yoric> If I understand the log correctly.
- # [16:30] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: you would think so
- # [16:30] <froydnj> Yoric: seems to wfm
- # [16:30] <@ehsan> catlee: setting that env var might save you
- # [16:30] <Yoric> froydnj: Cool :)
- # [16:30] <padenot> Ms2ger, ehsan, yes, but some recent gdb changes disable external gdbinit loading by default
- # [16:30] <catlee> ehsan: I've been having problems with firefox crashing completely, without bringing up the crash report tool
- # [16:30] <catlee> related?
- # [16:30] <Ms2ger> padenot, ugh
- # [16:31] <@ehsan> catlee: no
- # [16:31] <@bz> catlee: are you on Linux?
- # [16:31] <@ehsan> padenot: seriously? :(
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- # [16:31] <padenot> Ms2ger: note that when it does so, it tells you the line you have to add in your own gdbinit to fix that
- # [16:31] <catlee> bz: yes
- # [16:31] <padenot> ehsan: yeah, security reason or something
- # [16:31] <@bz> catlee: on Lunux, we use SIGSEGV in the JS engine for all sorts of stuff
- # [16:31] <@bz> catlee: like the slow script dialog
- # [16:31] <catlee> ah
- # [16:31] <catlee> ok
- # [16:31] <@bz> catlee: and communicating with workers
- # [16:32] <Ms2ger> padenot, can has lldb? :)
- # [16:32] <catlee> so just confusing :)
- # [16:32] <@bz> catlee: yeah
- # [16:32] <froydnj> Ms2ger: no
- # [16:32] <catlee> bz: and SIGPIPE too?
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- # [16:32] <@bz> catlee: doubt it on SIGPIPE
- # [16:32] <@bz> catlee: but Flash uses that, iir
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- # [16:32] <@bz> er, iirc
- # [16:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c90c5daad2ad - Ed Morley - Merge latest green inbound changeset and mozilla-central
- # [16:33] <Ms2ger> On an unrelated note, llvm seems to have caught a lot of fun bugs in the linux kernel, I wonder if we could reuse those checks
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- # [16:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/80286bae0d73 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 45840c6628d7 and acadb164dbc5 (bug 941805) for causing bug 966782.
- # [16:33] <padenot> Ms2ger: after a couple talks about gdb at FOSDEM, I really want to get all the new gdb features that are coming
- # [16:33] * @bz has "handle SIGPIPE noprint nostop pass" in his gdbinit, with a comment about flash
- # [16:33] <Ms2ger> padenot, must've missed those
- # [16:34] <padenot> Ms2ger: it was in the valgrind room, late in the sunday afternoon, they gave a slot to a couple gdb developers
- # [16:34] <Ms2ger> Ah, I see
- # [16:34] * Ms2ger was hanging with the IPv6 crowd
- # [16:34] <catlee> bz: any tips for how to ignore those signals so I can try and catch firefox when it's really crashing?
- # [16:35] <@bz> catlee: The above linked bug has an env var to set for jseng
- # [16:35] <@bz> catlee: as long as you're not doing asm.js
- # [16:35] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: which checks?
- # [16:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/06095fccf046 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 965916 - Do an extra GC on memory pressure if it would be productive. r=smaug
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- # [16:36] <Ms2ger> ehsan, things like uninitialized memory use
- # [16:36] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: using address sanitizer?
- # [16:36] <Ms2ger> I don't know
- # [16:36] <@ehsan> it's probably it
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- # [16:36] <@ehsan> we've been using it for quite some time, fwiw
- # [16:36] <Ms2ger> I know about that :)
- # [16:36] <@ehsan> we even do builds on TBPL
- # [16:37] <@ehsan> yeah
- # [16:37] <Ms2ger> This was a long table of bugs projected from... somewhere
- # [16:37] <@ehsan> they have a bunch of additional checks that we don't use yet though
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- # [16:37] <@ehsan> (the thread sanitizer stuff)
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- # [16:39] * Ms2ger looks if videos are up already
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- # [16:40] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: pardon my ignorance, but is this from a conference?
- # [16:40] <Ms2ger> Yeah, https://fosdem.org/2014/schedule/event/llvmlinux/
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- # [16:42] <Ms2ger> Sylvestre, do you know if the videos are somewhere already?
- # [16:42] <Sylvestre> No, I don't think they will be available before a month
- # [16:43] <Ms2ger> Oh, I think I found it
- # [16:43] <Ms2ger> http://buildbot.llvm.linuxfoundation.org/checker/scan-build-latest/
- # [16:43] <Sylvestre> I guess Wouter will publish them track by track
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- # [16:43] <Ms2ger> "Logic error: Unix API"
- # [16:43] * Ms2ger likes that
- # [16:44] <Sylvestre> Ms2ger, I run scan-build on llvm/clang itself: http://buildd-clang.debian.net/scan-build/
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- # [16:44] <Ms2ger> Sylvestre, so is this something that could be useful for Fx too?
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- # [16:45] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: ah so that's the static analysis stuff
- # [16:45] <@ehsan> yeah we should definitely try it out
- # [16:45] <Sylvestre> yep, I have a local patch for ff
- # [16:45] <Sylvestre> I am planning to report a bug
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- # [16:45] <Ms2ger> Great :)
- # [16:45] <@ehsan> I did that a long time ago but back then the checks were pretty useless for C++ code
- # [16:45] <Sylvestre> it finds about 1200 warnings
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- # [16:45] <Ms2ger> Well crap :D
- # [16:45] <Sylvestre> but many of them are in the thirdparty code
- # [16:45] <Sylvestre> (crap bis)
- # [16:45] <Sylvestre> ;)
- # [16:46] <@ehsan> Sylvestre: please CC me on the bug
- # [16:46] <Sylvestre> sure
- # [16:46] <@ehsan> thanks!
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- # [16:47] <Ms2ger> And me :)
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- # [17:02] <@bz> RyanVM: If I land stuff on inbound right now, is it likely to make the uplift?
- # [17:03] <RyanVM> no
- # [17:03] <@bz> What about if I land on m-c?
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- # [17:03] <RyanVM> if the first Aurora builds aren't going out until Friday, what's the problem with uplifting tomorrow instead of crash-landing?
- # [17:04] <@bz> You mean apart from the whole requesting approval rigmarole?
- # [17:04] <RyanVM> and?
- # [17:04] * @bz hates the bureaucracy
- # [17:04] <RyanVM> we're going into a maintenance window in 1 hour
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- # [17:04] <RyanVM> we'll probably be doing the uplifts shortly thereafter
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- # [17:04] <@bz> I thought uplift was tomorrow
- # [17:05] <RyanVM> no...
- # [17:05] <@bz> Or is that release?
- # [17:05] <RyanVM> it's always on Monday
- # [17:05] <RyanVM> yes
- # [17:05] <@bz> ah, ok
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- # [17:05] <@bz> yeah, in that case I guess I might as well do the approval thing
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- # [17:05] <@bz> Thought I had another day or so.
- # [17:05] <RyanVM> the uplift will be trivial anyway
- # [17:05] <@bz> Sure
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- # [17:05] <@bz> Answering the silly questions is just time-consuming
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- # [17:07] <mike5w3c> bz: wondering what's up with https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=869376 " Nodelist should be ArrayClass
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- # [17:07] <@ehsan> bz: we should just add a new way of requesting these types of approvals (a=didntmakeittouplift?)
- # [17:07] <mike5w3c> bz: if there's something blocking it
- # [17:07] <@ehsan> catlee: btw is your problem fixed now?
- # [17:08] <catlee> ehsan: not sure, haven't crashed yet
- # [17:08] <Ms2ger> mike5w3c, Chromium was going to try it, I think?
- # [17:08] <@ehsan> hehe ok
- # [17:08] <catlee> I don't want to restart just to pick up the env change
- # [17:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed88a1b7b429 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 966710. Flag document.getElementsByTagNameNS as being able to throw, since it can. r=smaug
- # [17:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/05db27fe1164 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 966665. Don't DCE DOM method calls and getters that can throw exceptions. r=jandem
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- # [17:08] <catlee> but I think I probably should comment on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=941044, it's probably a false alarm
- # [17:08] <@bz> ehsan: a="basic sanity needs to reign"
- # [17:08] <@bz> mike5w3c: compat concerns
- # [17:09] <@ehsan> bz: amen!
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- # [17:09] <@bz> mike5w3c: Also, concerns about the resulting API still not being great
- # [17:10] <@bz> mike5w3c: and the fact that there are two different kinds of NodeList (live and non-live) and ArrayClass may not make sense for both
- # [17:10] <@bz> mike5w3c: and that one of those might be going away if people decide something about it (the one from querySelectorAll)
- # [17:10] <@bz> mike5w3c: really, what people _really_ want is for querySelectorAll to return an array
- # [17:10] <@bz> mike5w3c: or an array subclass or something, since plain array there is not web-compatible.
- # [17:11] <@bz> mike5w3c: (note that ArrayClass is _not_ an array subclass)
- # [17:11] <@bz> At least not in a useful way.
- # [17:11] <@bz> But there is no subclassing support in JS engines so far, which makes actual subclasses hard.
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- # [17:12] <@ehsan> Callek: can you please give me access to that slave? (bug 963287)
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- # [17:14] <ochameau> gps: ping
- # [17:14] <Callek> ehsan: sure thing (not in just under an hour there is a tree-closure due to scl3 firewall maint, so you might temporarily lose access to that host at that point, but once maint is done you should be back)
- # [17:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/067123df4f77 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 962212 (followup) - Fix a typo in metro Tab constructor that broke inheritance of private flag [r=azasypkin]
- # [17:14] <@ehsan> Callek: will the machine get shut down?
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- # [17:14] <Callek> s/not/note/
- # [17:14] <Callek> ehsan: nope the machine will stay up, just your ability to connect to it will temporarily die
- # [17:14] <@ehsan> I just want to start the tests under the debugger and let it run
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- # [17:14] <@ehsan> ok that's fine
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- # [17:15] <@ehsan> Callek: which VPN do I want to be on?
- # [17:15] * @bz pokes mirrors with a sharp stick
- # [17:15] <Callek> ehsan: DC/Global VPN
- # [17:15] <@ehsan> hmm
- # [17:15] <Callek> ehsan https://mana.mozilla.org/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30769829
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- # [17:16] <Callek> ehsan: your host is starting up now
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- # [17:16] <@ehsan> thanks
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- # [17:18] <mike5w3c> bz: OK
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- # [17:18] <mike5w3c> Ms2ger: any chance you have a blink bug number for it handy?
- # [17:19] <Ms2ger> mike5w3c, afraid not
- # [17:19] <@ehsan> Callek: so I can't ping the machine
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- # [17:20] <mike5w3c> Ms2ger: ok I'll hunt
- # [17:20] <Callek> ehsan: are you connected to that VPN?
- # [17:20] <@ehsan> Callek: I think so
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- # [17:20] <Callek> let me check
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- # [17:21] <@ehsan> Callek: the host that I'm trying to connect to is tst-linux32-ec2-ehsan.test.releng.use1.mozilla.com
- # [17:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70c15e9ed2bf - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 960945 - MozConnection should be NoInterfaceObject, r=bz
- # [17:21] <Callek> ehsan: Pinging tst-linux32-ec2-ehsan.test.releng.use1.mozilla.com [10.134.58.233] with 32 bytes of data:
- # [17:21] <Callek> ehsan: I can ping it
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- # [17:22] <@ehsan> Callek: is that good or bad? :)
- # [17:22] <Callek> ehsan: are you getting same IP?
- # [17:22] <@ehsan> yes
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- # [17:24] <@ehsan> Callek: according to the openvpn log, I should have the proper route set up as well
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- # [17:25] <Callek> ehsan: I'm asking jabba to confirm https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=963597 is in place (in #it)
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- # [17:26] <@ehsan> Callek: that should not affect pings, should it?
- # [17:26] <Callek> shouldn't
- # [17:26] <catlee> I'm not sure if we allow pings through...
- # [17:26] <Callek> err actually yea if you don't have access you can't pin
- # [17:26] <@ehsan> so the problem lies elsewhere
- # [17:26] <@ehsan> oh
- # [17:26] <@ehsan> ok
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- # [17:27] <Callek> ehsan: `[11:23:44] jabba that IP was missing. I just added it`
- # [17:28] <Callek> ehsan: sorry about that
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- # [17:29] <Callek> ehsan: in ~15 min you'll need to disco/reconnect to VPN though, but after that you should be good
- # [17:29] <Callek> (15 min due to puppet/ldap propogation)
- # [17:29] <@ehsan> ok, will hopefully remember to try agian after lunch :)
- # [17:29] <@ehsan> thanks
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- # [17:33] <tbsaunde> a4arg who broke --disable-libvpx? :(
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- # [17:40] <dholbert> tbsaunde, if it's from sometime in the last ~week, my bet would be https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891705
- # [17:40] <dholbert> tbsaunde, that broke a few --disable-[codec] options
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- # [17:40] <dholbert> tbsaunde, (and IIUC we're just going to remove those build flags since they're untested and probably not worth supporting)
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- # [17:41] <dholbert> tbsaunde, not sure --disable-libvpx is on anyone's radar as being broken, though (I filed bugs for disable-ogg, disable-webm, disable-opus)
- # [17:41] <tbsaunde> dholbert: ah, for now I think I've sucessfully fixed it
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- # [17:41] <dholbert> )
- # [17:42] <tbsaunde> dholbert: hm, I use all of those and my build seems to be continuing after just fixing libmkv
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- # [17:42] <tbsaunde> by which I mean disable libvpx implies disable libmkv
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- # [17:42] <dholbert> tbsaunde, interesting. maybe my build would have been fine if I were disabling that, too
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- # [17:46] <dholbert> tbsaunde, in any case: if --disable-libvpx doesn't work without whatever hack you needed, please file a bug :)
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- # [17:49] <Callek> great!
- # [17:49] <firebot> Check-in:
- # [17:49] <Callek> REMINDER -- TREE CLOSURE IN 15 MINUTES (for releng firewall maint) duration 1 hour -- REMINDER
- # [17:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d71c2b8f4c72 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 849692: Remove no-longer-needed fuzzy-if() annotations for flexbox-dyn-insertAroundDiv-2.xhtml and flexbox-dyn-insertAroundSpan-2.xhtml. rs=mattwoodrow
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- # [17:51] <Gijs> ttaubert: RyanVM was planning to do that (merge fx-team to mc)
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- # [17:51] <Gijs> RyanVM: ttaubert: don't know if he's doing it right now and/or if it's OK if you do it :)
- # [17:51] <ttaubert> Gijs: ah, nice
- # [17:51] <Gijs> ttaubert: he did say he might not get to it :)
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- # [17:52] <Gijs> So, not sure. Check with him.
- # [17:52] <ttaubert> RyanVM: check.
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- # [17:52] <RyanVM> Gijs: ttaubert: what now?
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- # [17:52] <ttaubert> RyanVM: hah, I wondered if it's too late for a merge of the latest green fx-team stuff?
- # [17:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d021370c57f - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 965990 - Allow URLSearchParams objects to be associated with multiple URLs, r=ehsan
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- # [17:53] <ttaubert> RyanVM: was thinking about your last push
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- # [17:58] <ttaubert> RyanVM: ok I"m going to merge before the tree closure. please yell if you object
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- # [17:58] <RyanVM> ttaubert: why, so they can all burn?
- # [17:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54001ad1dfb7 - Max Li - Bug 963000 - Explore By Touch sometimes not working when Firefox is opened and automatically loads a web page. r=kats
- # [17:59] <ttaubert> RyanVM: they look green, no?
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- # [17:59] <RyanVM> there's a reason we're closing the trees
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- # [17:59] <ttaubert> RyanVM: I was asking. you can just say "please don't". then I would just go the uplift way
- # [17:59] * RyanVM rants about people waiting until the last second to land stuff as if merge day just comes out of nowhere
- # [17:59] <RyanVM> please don't
- # [18:00] <ttaubert> ok
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- # [18:00] <froydnj> sneaky, tricksy merge day
- # [18:00] <Ms2ger> My preciousss patchesss
- # [18:00] <@gavin> RyanVM: what's the risk?
- # [18:00] <smacleod> ^ was landed when it was done...
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- # [18:00] <RyanVM> we don't ship aurora builds until Friday for a reason
- # [18:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/89554fdaf65d - Markus Stange - Bug 958674 - Return true from nsCocoaWindow::IsVisible while nsCocoaWindow::Show(true) is running. r=smichaud
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- # [18:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d119852513a - Markus Stange - Bug 958674 - Paint popup synchronously when showing the window, like we do for normal windows. r=smichaud
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- # [18:01] <Gijs> RyanVM: right, but string changes are a problem
- # [18:01] <froydnj> RyanVM: because our build times are just that bad?
- # [18:01] <@gavin> RyanVM: we haven't been "Waiting until the last second", we've been working pretty much around the clock on some of this stuff
- # [18:01] <Gijs> and, what gavin said
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- # [18:02] <RyanVM> hang on a sec
- # [18:02] <Yoric> felipe: ping
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- # [18:02] <Gijs> RyanVM: I have a push ready, because I would really like to ship the few strings without annoying localizers by doing it post-uplift
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- # [18:02] <felipe> Yoric: pong
- # [18:02] <Yoric> Hi
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- # [18:02] <Yoric> I'm currently regressing test_AddonRepository_cache.js.
- # [18:03] <Yoric> I wonder if you remember enough of it to help me a little.
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- # [18:03] <felipe> Yoric: I should
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- # [18:04] <Yoric> Ok, turns out that I find my immediate error.
- # [18:04] <RyanVM> Gijs: we'll have time to do it after the tree closure
- # [18:04] <Yoric> s/find/found/
- # [18:04] <felipe> Yoric: note that there's currently an intermittent orange on it (900954)
- # [18:04] <Yoric> felipe: But I'll be sure to ping you once I need more :)
- # [18:04] <felipe> alright!
- # [18:04] <Gijs> RyanVM: that would be swell. Thank you.
- # [18:04] <Yoric> felipe: Good to know, thanks.
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- # [18:04] <felipe> that was an easy ping :)
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- # [18:06] <RyanVM> Gijs: I'll do the merges as soon as m-c reopens
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- # [18:07] <RyanVM> gavin: ttaubert ^
- # [18:07] <@gavin> thanks
- # [18:07] <ttaubert> RyanVM: thx!
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- # [18:15] <froydnj> ooo, when did the "closed" icon for tbpl debut?
- # [18:15] <mbrubeck> froydnj: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920869
- # [18:15] <mbrubeck> edmorley++
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- # [18:15] <ttaubert> neat
- # [18:16] <froydnj> edmorley|sheriffduty++ indeed
- # [18:16] <edmorley|sheriffduty> :-)
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- # [18:17] <mbrubeck> My Pebble watch should arrive this week; tree status is on my list of apps to write
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- # [18:17] <edmorley|sheriffduty> mbrubeck: ha nice! :-)
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- # [18:19] <Ms2ger> Oh, heh
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- # [18:23] <@bz> XPCOMGlueLoad error 4:0 for file /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/inbound/obj-firefox/dist/NightlyDebug.app/Contents/MacOS/libicuuc.52.dylib:
- # [18:23] <@bz> wtf?
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- # [18:23] <@bz> Library not loaded: libicudata.52.dylib
- # [18:23] <@bz> Referenced from: /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/inbound/obj-firefox/dist/NightlyDebug.app/Contents/MacOS/libicuuc.52.dylib
- # [18:23] <@bz> Reason: image not found
- # [18:23] <@bz> Couldn't load XPCOM.
- # [18:23] <@bz> This is Not Helpful....
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- # [18:25] <@bz> Oh, god
- # [18:25] <@bz> who did this?
- # [18:25] <bsmedberg_> bz: the error itself or the message?
- # [18:25] <@bz> The error
- # [18:25] <bsmedberg_> does Contents/MacOS/libicudata.52.dylib exist?
- # [18:26] <@bz> apparently we now only support running if CWD is the dir the binary is in
- # [18:26] <@bz> yes
- # [18:26] <@bz> it does
- # [18:26] <@bz> and if I cd to that dir I can run the build fine
- # [18:26] <bsmedberg_> this is xpcshell or firefox or some other executable?
- # [18:26] <@bz> firefox
- # [18:26] <bsmedberg_> this surprises me
- # [18:27] <bsmedberg_> a lot, actually
- # [18:27] <bsmedberg_> bz: is libicudata in your dependentlibs.list?
- # [18:27] <@bz> It sure surprised the heck out of me when I just tried to start this!
- # [18:27] * @bz looks
- # [18:27] <@bz> mozilla% ../obj-firefox/dist/bin/xpcshell
- # [18:27] <@bz> dyld: Library not loaded: libicui18n.52.dylib
- # [18:27] <@bz> Referenced from: /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/inbound/obj-firefox/toolkit/library/XUL
- # [18:27] <@bz> Reason: image not found
- # [18:27] <@bz> fwiw
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- # [18:28] <@bz> bsmedberg_: yes
- # [18:28] <bsmedberg_> huh
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- # [18:28] <bsmedberg_> ok, then I'm at a loss for why it wouldn't work, although I know of some recent changes related to this
- # [18:28] <@bz> Does it matter that I have $MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME set?
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- # [18:28] <@bz> and also $PATH and $HOME
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- # [18:29] <bsmedberg_> PATH and HOME shouldn't matter
- # [18:29] <@bz> ok
- # [18:29] <bsmedberg_> MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME is set to what?
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- # [18:29] <@bz> /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/inbound/obj-firefox/dist/NightlyDebug.app/Contents/MacOS
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- # [18:29] <@bz> That is, the directory in which the firefox binary is
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- # [18:29] <@bz> The one I'm trying to run
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- # [18:29] <bsmedberg_> bz: if I were guessing, I'd say this was related to bug 958108
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- # [18:30] <bsmedberg_> although glandium would know most
- # [18:30] <@bz> I can certainly verify locally
- # [18:30] * @bz builds
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- # [18:30] <@bz> bsmedberg_: thanks!
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- # [18:31] <@bz> have I really not updated in that long?
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- # [18:40] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Gijs: 25bd95560c25 broke fx-team on windows
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- # [18:41] <Gijs> edmorley|sheriffduty: grand. Looks like a missing asset, but not my patch. Can I have 5 minutes, please? It shouldn't be hard to fix.
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- # [18:42] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Gijs: sure :-)
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- # [18:46] <Gijs> (it's literally just the missing file, and just for windows)
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- # [18:48] <Gijs> edmorley|sheriffduty: got a push ready, just let me know. :)
- # [18:49] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Gijs: happy for you to land it on a CLOSED TREE, hoping it's almost resolved now
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- # [18:59] <Gijs> edmorley|sheriffduty: done.
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- # [18:59] <edmorley|sheriffduty> Gijs: thanks! :-)
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- # [19:01] <Ms2ger> Gijs, it's just slow? :)
- # [19:02] <Gijs> I thought our build system was fast now? :)
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- # [19:03] <mbrubeck> "fast build" on Windows means something very different than on Mac/Linux :P
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- # [19:06] <@khuey> man
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- # [19:06] <@khuey> aurora builds so much slower than tip
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- # [19:06] <@khuey> unified builds ftw
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- # [19:09] <Gijs> mbrubeck: I've been doing ~16 minute clobbers on my Windows machine...
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- # [19:10] <Gijs> and I mean, the difference between a debug build and an opt build being that start is frightening
- # [19:10] <Gijs> dbg was finished in 10 minutes
- # [19:10] <Gijs> (on tinderbox, I mean)
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- # [19:10] <Gijs> It's now been almost 50 minutes
- # [19:10] <Gijs> and opt is still going
- # [19:10] <Gijs> that's a little weird.
- # [19:10] <Gijs> (my 16 minute clobbers were opt)
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- # [19:13] <mbrubeck> windows opt builds on the buildbot machines are >100min
- # [19:13] <mbrubeck> even when not clobbered :/
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- # [19:14] <mbrubeck> it's about 30min on my laptop
- # [19:14] * mbrubeck wonders if we know why so slow
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- # [19:14] <@khuey> RyanVM: ping
- # [19:14] <mbrubeck> (why so much slower in automation than on a year-old ultrabook, that is)
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- # [19:15] <vlad> great question!
- # [19:15] <RyanVM> khuey: pong
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- # [19:15] <jimm> mbrubeck: those are vms aren't they?
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- # [19:16] <RyanVM> no
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- # [19:16] <mbrubeck> Actually, I'm seeing "auto clobber" on (almost?) every Win opt build...
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- # [19:17] <@khuey> RyanVM: I posted an updated patch to bug 958011
- # [19:17] <RyanVM> khuey: cool, thanks
- # [19:17] <@khuey> RyanVM: I can't test it because aurora doesn't compile on VS 2013 ...
- # [19:17] <mbrubeck> every build on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Fx-Team&jobname=WINNT%205.2%20fx-team%20build clobbered
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- # [19:18] <@khuey> RyanVM: but the relevant parts build at least
- # [19:18] <RyanVM> you can probably understand why I didn't want to attempt it :)
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- # [19:18] <@khuey> RyanVM: indeed
- # [19:18] <@khuey> bajaj++
- # [19:18] <mbrubeck> ...and the 10 before that...
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- # [19:19] <jimm> do our builders use momake?
- # [19:19] <@khuey> mbrubeck: clobber it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure
- # [19:19] <jimm> *mozmake
- # [19:19] <@khuey> something like that
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- # [19:20] <mbrubeck> meanwhile the debug builds on the same pushes were mostly not clobbered
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- # [19:20] <mbrubeck> wtf
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- # [19:25] <@khuey> sweet
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- # [19:32] <mbrubeck> oh, I see
- # [19:33] <mbrubeck> "TinderboxPrint: auto clobber" is printed during http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/test/controller/test_clobber.py
- # [19:33] <mbrubeck> so it's not necessarily a real clobber
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- # [19:33] <botond> nbp: hello
- # [19:33] <mbrubeck> but why only opt builds?
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- # [19:41] <mbrubeck> filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=967099 for the "auto clobber" issue
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- # [19:44] <nbp> botond: pong
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- # [19:46] <botond> nbp: just wondering what the status of bug 959328 is. i still see this crash very often when i run b2g in debug mode
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- # [19:47] <nbp> botond: let me look at that tomorrow, when I would have finish restarting my session with a non-debug firefox.
- # [19:47] <botond> nbp: thanks!
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- # [19:48] <nbp> botond: Last time I checked with gerard_majax, he was not able to reproduce it with the patch that I made.
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- # [19:49] <nbp> botond: It landed 2 weeks ago.
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- # [19:55] <RyanVM> margeret: I'll try to get your backout merged over before the uplift, but I can't promise it at this point
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- # [19:56] <RyanVM> so you may need to backout from aurora too
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- # [20:01] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: tempted to just cancel all remaining builds/tests on my push
- # [20:01] <mbrubeck> since it's metro-only and we already have green mc
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- # [20:02] <mbrubeck> (on mozilla-central tip)
- # [20:02] <RyanVM> mbrubeck: fine with me
- # [20:02] <mbrubeck> oh darn, no 'cancel all' button on non-Try
- # [20:02] <mbrubeck> maybe I can hack it in... :P
- # [20:02] <RyanVM> sure there is
- # [20:02] <RyanVM> you can do it from self-serve too
- # [20:02] <RyanVM> well yeah, self-serve's the only option
- # [20:02] <RyanVM> sorry
- # [20:02] <RyanVM> bottom of the page
- # [20:03] <mbrubeck> ah, thanks
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- # [20:10] <NeilAway> mbrubeck: PGO?
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- # [20:19] <sheppy> mbrubeck: yeah, meant firebot, and yeah, we'd drop him out of #devmo in exchange for putting him in #mdn
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- # [20:23] <sfink> why is my try push hanging? Was it closed in some special way that means "hang when someone tries to push"?
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- # [20:26] <sfink> oh, yep, finally did
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- # [20:55] <@khuey> I'm getting PM spam
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- # [20:56] <RyanVM> lol
- # [20:56] <@khuey> no you :P
- # [20:56] <@khuey> *not you
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- # [21:09] <@bz> bsmedberg: so that wasn't it
- # [21:10] <@bsmedberg> bz: :-(
- # [21:10] <@bz> bsmedberg: I pulled rev 2ecb4c7413d5 and it starts fine
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- # [21:14] <@bz> bsmedberg: also, the nightly starts fine
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- # [21:23] <sid0> bkero: still waiting for your response in https://bitbucket.org/facebook/hgwatchman/pull-request/1/add-watchman-binary-in-path-check/diff
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- # [21:26] <bkero> sid0: Ah yeah. Have to read that CLA first. :)
- # [21:26] <bkero> Thanks for the reminder.
- # [21:26] <sid0> bkero: it's the same as the Apache CLA, if that matters
- # [21:26] <bkero> Ok
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- # [21:35] <evilpie> oh lol you need a facebook account to read it
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- # [21:42] <Jesse> bjacob_: pong
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- # [21:45] <bjacob_> Jesse: saw your blog about fuzzing and asserts; running into a hard dilemma using the Faulty IPC fuzzer and running into asserts; could you check out the conversation on bug 963978 and tell me if you have general ideas about how to approach this kind of dilemma?
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- # [21:48] <Jesse> bjacob_: one possibility is MOZ_ASSERT_IF(!fuzzing, message_is_as_expected)
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- # [21:49] <Jesse> there were one or two comments on regehr's blog about assertions interacting badly with testing. http://blog.regehr.org/archives/1091#comment-13980
- # [21:50] <bjacob_> Jesse: yes, that sounds like what ben suggests on this bug.
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- # [21:51] <Jesse> bjacob_: or have a release-mode check that does MOZ_CRASH("Other end of the pipe did something wacky") and tell faulty to ignore crashes that come with that string
- # [21:51] <bjacob_> Jesse: but having asserts-only-if-not-fuzzing feels wrong... somehow.
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- # [21:52] <bjacob_> Jesse: it's not just about ignoring useless reports, it's about being able to fuzz at all, instead of crashing before one gets to fuzz interesting stuff.
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- # [21:52] <Ms2ger> Hmm, that's an annoying case
- # [21:53] <nthomas> Is this sort of network error known - Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.cnn.com.&f=regular - ie appending that query string wrong
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- # [21:58] <Jesse> bjacob_: how about it make it a non-fatal assertion?
- # [21:59] <jwalden> i.e. a warning ;-)
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- # [21:59] <Jesse> it's still an assertion in the sense of "it's a bug if this happens"
- # [22:00] <jwalden> not in the hacked-child-process case
- # [22:00] <bjacob_> jwalden: Jesse: the dilemma is: either make it non-fatal all the time, and then, as :bent says, lose assert coverage; or make it non-fatal only when --enable-ipc-fuzzer, and have the fuzzer change behavior
- # [22:00] <Jesse> in what way are you losing assert coverage?
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- # [22:03] <bjacob_> Jesse: this assert catches the case where somehow, a bool would have a value different from 0 or 1. So it gives assert coverage to 1) internal IPC code and 2) the code at the other end of the pipe, that sends messages with bool params (and could have wacky custom code mis-encoding bool params, or could be forwarding a wacky "boolean" with a bad value)
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- # [22:03] <Jesse> what does the release-mode code do?
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- # [22:04] <Jesse> if you make it a non-fatal assertion, it will count as a test failure in regression tests but the fuzzer can decide whether to consider it a fuzz bug or not
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- # [22:05] <Jesse> although if you also want to have a regression test for how the evil case is handled...
- # [22:05] <jwalden> it would seem to me non-0/1 should be an error that causes the child to be killed, always
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- # [22:05] <jwalden> strict in what you accept, and all that
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- # [22:05] <Ms2ger> Wasn't it the other way around? ;)
- # [22:06] <jwalden> yes, Postel was wrong
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- # [22:06] <cdiehl> the base problem is that ReadBool() calls ReadInt to get the boolean value and WriteInt is getting fuzzed.
- # [22:06] <@roc> I agree with Waldo
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- # [22:07] <@roc> about that. he's still wrong about non-fatal assertions
- # [22:07] <jwalden> :-P
- # [22:07] <jwalden> non-fatal get ignored
- # [22:07] <jwalden> we have abundant evidence for that
- # [22:07] <jwalden> fatal sometimes get put on hold
- # [22:07] <jwalden> but that's quite different
- # [22:08] <@roc> on the contrary, we have plenty of cases of backing out patches for causing non-fatal assertion failures.
- # [22:08] <jwalden> and we're usually pretty good about following up on those, for cases that are hit often enough
- # [22:08] <@gavin> sometimes problems need to be ignored
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- # [22:08] <Jesse> we have about as much evidence that fatal assertions keep people from using debug builds
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- # [22:08] <@roc> gavin++
- # [22:08] <bjacob_> <Jesse> what does the release-mode code do?
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- # [22:08] <bjacob_> Jesse: in this case, the release-mode code fails gracefully and safely
- # [22:09] <bjacob_> Jesse: but it is still worth knowing when we somehow get a boolean with value > 1
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- # [22:09] <jwalden> gavin: assertions can always be temporarily commented out
- # [22:10] <jwalden> no need to throw out the baby with the bathwater
- # [22:10] <cdiehl> bjacob_: see what i wrote above
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- # [22:10] * @khuey should file that stupid ToInteger assertion of Waldo's that is stopping me from using debug builds
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- # [22:11] <Jesse> jwalden: i'd rather have a few dozen people using debug builds and filing some assertion failures than nobody using debug builds and no assertion bugs being filed from browsing
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- # [22:11] <jwalden> khuey: yes, you should
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- # [22:11] <@roc> commenting out assertions you want to ignore is nearly the worst of all possible worlds
- # [22:11] <Jesse> jwalden: we get better information from fuzzing and regression testing by letting execution continue
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- # [22:12] <@gavin> maybe not of _all_ possible worlds
- # [22:12] <@gavin> but yes, that doesn't sound like a very scalable solution
- # [22:12] <@roc> okay
- # [22:12] <@roc> it's pretty bad
- # [22:12] <@roc> you make those assertions useless for people debugging problems
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- # [22:12] <bjacob_> cdiehl: alright, i am at the point where the only productive thing that i can do, is make Faulty able to fuzz only select protocols, so, getting to that
- # [22:12] <jwalden> people debugging the problems should be responsible for making those assertions achievable
- # [22:12] <@roc> or for catching regressions that cause new cases of the assertion to fire
- # [22:12] <Jesse> gavin: worse would be commenting out the implementation of MOZ_ASSERT
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- # [22:14] <Jesse> bjacob_: what kind of "safe, graceful failure"? shutdown? ignore a single message?
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- # [22:15] <bjacob_> Jesse: coerce illegal booleans to 'false'
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- # [22:16] <jwalden> that seems like a strange coercion, if I interpret you to mean that 5 => false
- # [22:16] <bjacob_> yes, that
- # [22:16] <bjacob_> see Pickle::ReadBool in pickle.cc
- # [22:17] <jwalden> I would expect the common mistaken case would be int32_t IsTruthy() { return mInt; } where the sense obviously requires non-zero int to be truthy
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- # [22:17] <jwalden> in which case 5 => false would be undesirable
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- # [22:18] <Jesse> crashing is the safest ;)
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- # [22:18] <jwalden> I agree
- # [22:18] <Ms2ger> Let's crash :)
- # [22:18] <jwalden> or rather, crashing the child process
- # [22:18] <jwalden> to be precise
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- # [22:19] <@roc> I think we should have a global flag in the parent that indicates whether we're testing the parent+child or just the parent.
- # [22:20] <@bz> 924839
- # [22:20] <@bz> Oh, jwalden....
- # [22:20] <jwalden> bz: ?
- # [22:20] <jwalden> I recognize that number
- # [22:20] <froydnj> a very dull taxicab number?
- # [22:20] <efaust> nah, Cash Cab
- # [22:20] <@bz> jwalden: It's my current suspect for my "build won't start" bug
- # [22:20] * @bz is verifying via bisect
- # [22:20] <jwalden> froydnj: ICU making a poor attempt at a joke
- # [22:21] <jwalden> bz: not starting with what failure message and all?
- # [22:21] <@bz> jwalden: that is, my local debug builds do not start unless CWD is the bindir
- # [22:21] <@bz> One sec
- # [22:22] * @bz gets it again
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- # [22:22] <jwalden> bz: as in objdir/dist/Nightly.app/Contents/Resources/blah/blah/blah/firefox-bin fails as a command?
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- # [22:22] <@bz> yes
- # [22:22] <@bz> because it can't find the ICU libs
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- # [22:22] <@bz> unless cwd is objdir/dist/Nightly.app/Contents/Resources/blah/blah/blah
- # [22:23] <@bz> or dist/bin
- # [22:23] <jwalden> hm
- # [22:23] <@bz> (since both have the icu libs directly in them, one via symlink)
- # [22:23] <@bz> nightly works
- # [22:23] <jwalden> seems solvable
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- # [22:23] <@bz> so either packaging or opt helps
- # [22:23] * @bz can tell you which in a sec
- # [22:23] <@bz> also, I'm not 100% sure it's that bug
- # [22:23] <jwalden> although, that sounds almost like it might be something about our packaging stuff that's wacky
- # [22:23] <@bz> but every step of my bisect is hitting the clobber from that bug
- # [22:23] <jwalden> and I would be slightly surprised if that were ICU-update-caused
- # [22:23] <@bz> so I'm starting to be suspicious
- # [22:23] <@bz> Well, for now it's making it really hard to debug anything
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- # [22:25] <@bz> /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/inbound/obj-firefox/dist/NightlyDebug.app/Contents/MacOS
- # [22:25] <@bz> XPCOMGlueLoad error 4:0 for file /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/inbound/obj-firefox/dist/NightlyDebug.app/Contents/MacOS/libicuuc.52.dylib:
- # [22:25] <@bz> Library not loaded: libicudata.52.dylib
- # [22:25] <@bz> Referenced from: /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/inbound/obj-firefox/dist/NightlyDebug.app/Contents/MacOS/libicuuc.52.dylib
- # [22:25] <@bz> Reason: image not found
- # [22:25] <@bz> Couldn't load XPCOM.
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- # [22:25] <@bz> IS the output
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- # [22:25] <@bz> jwalden: ^
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- # [22:25] <jwalden> okay, kicking off a local build and will check
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- # [22:26] <@bz> jwalden: thanks
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- # [22:26] * @bz is building 2efbd5388bc7^ right now
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- # [22:26] <@bz> And also a tip opt build
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- # [22:26] <@bz> after which I'll probably be able to report that it is in fact this patch and it's not debug-only
- # [22:26] <@bz> I'm guessing
- # [22:26] <@bz> But we'll see
- # [22:27] * @bz is suprised no one else has run into this....
- # [22:27] <jwalden> maybe packaging is whack? but I would think that would affect any .app too
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- # [22:27] <@bz> I'm not packaging
- # [22:27] <@bz> is the point
- # [22:27] <till> khuey: ping
- # [22:27] <@bz> I'm just running out of the objdir
- # [22:27] <jwalden> if you have a .app, isn't that a package?
- # [22:27] <@bz> the .app in the objdir, but still
- # [22:28] <@bz> no
- # [22:28] <@bz> it's not
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- # [22:28] <@bz> afaik
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- # [22:28] <@bz> I can try to package too and test that
- # [22:28] <@bz> gimme a few
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- # [22:28] <@khuey> till: pong
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- # [22:29] <@bz> make -C ../obj-firefox package
- # [22:29] <@bz> Executing /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/inbound/obj-firefox/dist/bin/xpcshell -g /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/inbound/obj-firefox/dist/NightlyDebug.app/Contents/MacOS -a /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/inbound/obj-firefox/dist/NightlyDebug.app/Contents/MacOS -f /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/inbound/mozilla/toolkit/mozapps/installer/precompile_cache.js -e precompile_startupcache("resource://gre/");
- # [22:29] <@bz> dyld: Library not loaded: ../lib/libicudata.52.1.dylib
- # [22:29] <@bz> Referenced from: /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/inbound/obj-firefox/dist/NightlyDebug.app/Contents/MacOS/XUL
- # [22:29] <@bz> Reason: image not found
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- # [22:29] <@bz> jwalden: for extra fun: ^
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- # [22:30] <jwalden> hmm, 52.1
- # [22:30] * @bz reruns that from the bindir
- # [22:30] * jwalden sighs and wonders yet again why we include version number in this junk
- # [22:30] <@bz> js/src/intl/icu/target/lib/libicudata.52.1.dylib
- # [22:31] <@bz> exists
- # [22:31] <@bz> As does js/src/intl/icu/target/stubdata/libicudata.52.1.dylib
- # [22:31] <@bz> In the objdir
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- # [22:31] <jwalden> bz: make -C ../obj-firefox echo-variable-MOZ_ICU_VERSION?
- # [22:31] <jwalden> think that's the incantation
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- # [22:31] <@bz> jwalden: 52
- # [22:32] <jwalden> so our package stuff only copies $(DIST)/bin/icublah$(MOZ_ICU_VERSION).dylib and such
- # [22:32] <@bz> Note that firefox itself was trying to load libicudata.52.dylib
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- # [22:32] <@bz> copies where?
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- # [22:33] <@bz> mozilla% find ../obj-firefox -name libicudata.52.dylib
- # [22:33] <@bz> ../obj-firefox/dist/bin/libicudata.52.dylib
- # [22:33] <@bz> ../obj-firefox/dist/NightlyDebug.app/Contents/MacOS/libicudata.52.dylib
- # [22:33] <@bz> ../obj-firefox/js/src/intl/icu/target/lib/libicudata.52.dylib
- # [22:33] <@bz> ../obj-firefox/js/src/intl/icu/target/stubdata/libicudata.52.dylib
- # [22:33] <@bz> Fwiw
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- # [22:33] <@bz> But firefox failed looking for that one
- # [22:33] <@bz> while xpcshell is looking for 52.1....
- # [22:33] <@bz> (yay)
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- # [22:34] <till> khuey: so, I finally got around to really properly test out your patch
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- # [22:34] <till> khuey: and it has some issues that are hard to work around
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- # [22:35] <till> khuey: specifically, using postSyncMessage from the main thread immediately hangs the browser
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- # [22:35] <jwalden> bz: so |dbg/dist/NightlyDebug.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox -profile /tmp/pf/| works just fine for me locally
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- # [22:36] <till> khuey: that's an implementation issue, so I'm not worried about it. What's potentially more problematic is that we need this to work somewhat differently in general
- # [22:36] <jwalden> bz: or wait, you said this was only for debug+opt, or what was the exact configuration?
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- # [22:37] <till> khuey: we need to actually get values returned from the call. So something like `result = postSyncMessage(msg);` should work
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- # [22:37] <@khuey> till: yes, hanging teh browser until the message is returned is what is expected
- # [22:37] <@khuey> if you don't want that ... we need to talk
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- # [22:38] <@khuey> till: did you look at the test
- # [22:39] <@khuey> till: that should work ...
- # [22:39] <till> khuey: sure, but that should mean that as soon as the onsyncmessage handler returns, the browser resumes, right?
- # [22:39] <@khuey> till: right, is that not happening?
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- # [22:39] <till> khuey: it's not. But maybe I'm doing something wrong. You didn't attach the test case :)
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- # [22:40] <@khuey> till: its in the patch
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- # [22:40] <till> oh
- # [22:40] <@khuey> shumway2
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- # [22:40] <@khuey> test something or other
- # [22:40] * till looks at the test
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- # [22:41] <@khuey> till: your problem is not constructing the result object correctly
- # [22:42] <till> ah!
- # [22:42] <@khuey> till: it's ugly, but we need to return two values from the function ...
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- # [22:42] <jwalden> so things worked for me, with the run command mentioned above, with https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4175416 as mozconfig
- # [22:42] <jwalden> bz: ^
- # [22:42] <till> khuey: so I have to have a message property, right?
- # [22:42] <jwalden> bz: what's in yours that makes things different?
- # [22:42] <@khuey> till: yeah
- # [22:42] <@khuey> and you can add a transferable property too for another in message that should be transferred
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- # [22:43] <@bz> jwalden: so far hitting this in a pure debug build
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- # [22:43] <@bz> jwalden: waiting on opt builds
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- # [22:46] <@khuey> till: I will be in the office tuesday-thursday if we need to sit down to deal with anything
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- # [22:48] <till> jwalden: until Saturday
- # [22:48] <@bz> jwalden: well, I can confirm your patch is the one breaking me
- # [22:48] * @bz files
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- # [22:48] <jwalden> bleh
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- # [22:49] <jwalden> maybe glandium can save me ;-)
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- # [22:49] <jwalden> till: given Friday events, reasonable chance I'll head up that day, then
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- # [22:50] <till> jwalden: cool!
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- # [22:50] <jwalden> heading up/back every day last week was pretty tiring, so I'm probably not going to head up more than just a day, unless there's particular reason
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- # [22:51] <@bz> jwalden: --enable-shared-js may be relevant
- # [22:51] * @bz is checking
- # [22:51] <jwalden> bz: if that's not relevant, I will eat my hat
- # [22:52] <jwalden> (but I haven't got a hat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_K1Vju0r6Q )
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- # [22:52] <@bz> btw...
- # [22:52] <@bz> I get a different error on your initial push and on tip
- # [22:52] <@bz> Do you care when the error changed?
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- # [22:52] <jwalden> that's...really strange
- # [22:53] <mccr8> Does anybody know what version of Xcode introduced xcrun, and whether we care about any older versions?
- # [22:53] <jwalden> I don't remember anything changing, except in rebas-ic sorts of stuff
- # [22:53] <jwalden> the talos xperf change was the only necessary change to land
- # [22:53] <jwalden> bz: I think probably we can discount the when-part and stick with just the final landing
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- # [22:54] <@bz> jwalden: no, I mean running the rev right after you landed and running current tip give different errors
- # [22:54] <jwalden> bz: wat
- # [22:54] <@bz> jwalden: see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=967230#c0
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- # [22:55] <@bz> opt builds have the same issue.
- # [22:55] <jwalden> bz: something is seriously whack
- # [22:55] <@bz> yes
- # [22:55] <jwalden> bz: maybe ehsan can help out, given he did all that static JS madness recently?
- # [22:55] <@bz> want the range on when the message changed? ;)
- # [22:56] <jwalden> bz: if it doesn't involve mega-clobbers every time, maybe
- # [22:56] <jwalden> bz: let's see what smart peoples say first, tho
- # [22:56] <@bz> ok
- # [22:56] * @bz builds --disable-shared-js too
- # [22:57] <@bz> oh
- # [22:57] <@bz> jwalden: one sec
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- # [22:58] <@ehsan> bz: how can I help?
- # [22:58] <@bz> wtf?
- # [22:59] <@bz> ehsan: * bz builds --disable-shared-js too
- # [22:59] <@bz> er...
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- # [22:59] <@bz> ehsan: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=967230
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- # [22:59] <@ehsan> bz: did Waldo's icu update land?
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- # [23:01] <@ehsan> bz: try running this command:
- # [23:01] <@ehsan> make -C objdir echo-variable-MOZ_ICU_VERSION
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- # [23:01] <@bz> ehsan: "52"
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- # [23:02] <@bz> ehsan: and yes, it did
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- # [23:02] <@bz> jwalden: so the different error message depends on whether I do ../obj-firefox or /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/vanilla/obj-firefox
- # [23:02] <@ehsan> bz: which icu things do you have in objdir/dist/bin?
- # [23:02] <@bz> jwalden: yay?
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- # [23:02] <@bz> mozilla% ls ../obj-firefox/dist/bin/*icu*
- # [23:02] <@bz> ../obj-firefox/dist/bin/libicudata.52.dylib@ ../obj-firefox/dist/bin/libicui18n.52.dylib@ ../obj-firefox/dist/bin/libicuuc.52.dylib@
- # [23:02] <jwalden> wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
- # [23:02] <@bz> Those are symlinks
- # [23:03] <@bz> into the usual mess
- # [23:03] <@bz> ../obj-firefox/dist/bin/libicudata.52.dylib -> /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/vanilla/obj-firefox/js/src/intl/icu/../../intl/icu/target/lib/libicudata.52.dylib
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- # [23:03] <@ehsan> oh wait
- # [23:03] <@ehsan> I remember what I did to fix this the last time
- # [23:03] <@ehsan> I bet Waldo just clobbered my changes :P
- # [23:03] <@ehsan> er, jwalden
- # [23:03] <@ehsan> gimme a sec
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- # [23:04] <jwalden> my push shouldn't have touched intl/icu/Makefile.in at all, I believe
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- # [23:04] <jwalden> which is I assume where this stuff would have happened
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- # [23:04] <@ehsan> jwalden: got a link to the push handy?
- # [23:04] <@bz> if it makes you feel any better, --disable-shared-js doesn't help
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- # [23:05] <@bz> er
- # [23:05] <@ehsan> bz: hang on, I know why this happens :)
- # [23:05] <@bz> but that still has a libmozjs.dylib?
- # [23:05] <@bz> why?
- # [23:05] <@ehsan> and I know the solution as well
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- # [23:05] <jwalden> ehsan: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2efbd5388bc7
- # [23:05] <@ehsan> just need to remember it ;)
- # [23:05] <@ehsan> it's some weird osx linker thing
- # [23:05] <jwalden> sounds like an upworthy title
- # [23:06] <@bz> oh
- # [23:06] <@bz> configure fail
- # [23:06] * @bz does that again
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- # [23:06] <@ehsan> there we go
- # [23:06] * @ehsan waits for firefox to stop hanging
- # [23:06] <@ehsan> bz: try reverting this hunk: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2efbd5388bc7#l156.1
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- # [23:07] <@ehsan> that's what jwalden clobbered (unintentionally)
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- # [23:07] <jwalden> boo-urns
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- # [23:07] <@ehsan> jwalden: did you look at intl/icu-patches?
- # [23:07] <@ehsan> there is a patch file there
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- # [23:07] <@ehsan> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b0678affef03#l9.3
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- # [23:08] <@ehsan> bz: (basically just reapply that patch)
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- # [23:08] <reuben> ugh, that URL
- # [23:08] <jwalden> ehsan: I did, but maybe before you did? or something
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- # [23:08] <@ehsan> jwalden: yep that's very likely
- # [23:08] <@ehsan> jwalden: anyways, when bz confirms the fix I'll just push it
- # [23:08] <@ehsan> cause it's technically already r+ed
- # [23:09] <jwalden> ehsan: I went through everything in intl/update-icu.sh
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- # [23:09] <jwalden> ehsan: these patches need to be listed there, for things to work
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- # [23:09] <@ehsan> oh
- # [23:09] <@ehsan> sorry, I did not know that
- # [23:09] <jwalden> you're not the only one with a change/patch not listed in that file, before my push :-\
- # [23:10] * @ehsan feels better ;)
- # [23:10] <jwalden> ehsan: on the plus side, it should now be the case that running ./update-icu.sh with the URL in that file results in no changes whatsoever to the tree
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- # [23:10] <jwalden> ehsan: so it's easy to detect these sorts of failures now
- # [23:10] <@ehsan> that's nice
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- # [23:10] <@ehsan> I'll add this to the update script
- # [23:10] <sheppy> Wowza. What happened to cause the nightly I'm downloading right now on my Mac to be 71.7 MB? The largest I've seen in the past was around 50 MB or so.
- # [23:11] <jwalden> sheppy: possibly ICU
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- # [23:11] <sheppy> ICU...?
- # [23:11] <jwalden> sheppy: which is necessary because locales
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- # [23:11] <jwalden> sheppy: bunch of data for locales discussing how to collate/sort data, how to format numbers, dates/times, etc.
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- # [23:11] <sheppy> jwalden: ahhh
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- # [23:12] <jwalden> shu: sadly not all languages are as moderately minimal about this as English, or European-flavored languages generally
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- # [23:12] <gaston> sooo, now to see if my bsd buildbot is burning with the icu update...
- # [23:12] <jwalden> er, sorry, sheppy
- # [23:12] <jwalden> gaston: it picked up the not-yet-upstreamed BSD-specific patches, fwiw
- # [23:12] <sheppy> jwalden: All I know is that Firefox suddenly gained like 15-20 MB overnight. :)
- # [23:12] <jwalden> gaston: and got rid of the ones that had been upstreamed \o/
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- # [23:12] <gaston> jwalden: yay
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- # [23:13] <gaston> but still, that's a laaaaaarge amount of code so i wouldnt be surprised if it broke non-tier1 plats :)
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- # [23:13] <jwalden> sheppy: ICU will let sites (and us) do things like format currencies correctly without doing (!) server roundtrips each time
- # [23:13] <gaston> oh well, i'll see that tmrw
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- # [23:13] <sheppy> jwalden: ah
- # [23:14] <sheppy> jwalden: I see. That sounds nifty and all but boy, that was a surprising jump in app size. :)
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- # [23:14] <jwalden> sheppy: and you can imagine how b2g would want to display currencies correctly for the marketplace
- # [23:14] <sheppy> jwalden: yes, that's certainly true :)
- # [23:15] <jwalden> apropos of nothing, I should move the ICU updating documentation we have into intl/icu/README.html or similar at this point
- # [23:15] <sheppy> We need to add some info about it to MDN eventually.
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- # [23:16] <jwalden> perhaps
- # [23:16] <jwalden> the JS internationalization docs are what most people will need to know about
- # [23:16] * sheppy tries to figure out how to go about getting firebot added to one channel and removed from another.
- # [23:16] <jwalden> ICU itself, specifically, is only relevant to Mozilla hackers
- # [23:16] <sheppy> jwalden: Yeah, but docs for adding locales etc. to Firefox are on MDN already, and will need updating.
- # [23:16] <jwalden> sheppy: oh, right, that mess
- # [23:16] <sheppy> We document how to hack Firefox on MDN. :)
- # [23:16] <shu> jwalden: what?
- # [23:17] <jwalden> sheppy: I hope we can convince people to contribute this stuff to ICU directly
- # [23:17] <@bz> ehsan: testing
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- # [23:17] <efaust> mishilight, shu
- # [23:17] <jwalden> shu: sorry, mix (meant for sheppy)
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- # [23:17] <shu> mishi...light?
- # [23:17] <@bz> fwiw, disable-shared-js works
- # [23:17] <sheppy> jwalden: which stuff?
- # [23:17] <shu> oh mis hilight
- # [23:17] <shu> got it, okay
- # [23:17] <sheppy> localization updates?
- # [23:17] <@bz> ehsan: your link is still loading..... :(
- # [23:17] <jwalden> highlight
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- # [23:17] <jwalden> and I guess I meant "mix" in the http://sipb.mit.edu/doc/zephyr/ sense, come to think of it :-)
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- # [23:20] <@bz> ehsan: rebuilding....
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- # [23:21] <jwalden> RyanVM++ for proper citation to meme in bug 924839
- # [23:21] <@ehsan> bz: forget my link
- # [23:21] <@bz> ehsan: hmm?
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- # [23:21] <@ehsan> bz: just apply intl/icu-patches/bug-915735
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- # [23:21] <reuben> jwalden: you used to be able to /invite him
- # [23:21] <RyanVM> jwalden: \m/
- # [23:21] <reuben> her? it?
- # [23:21] <@bz> And then clobber, I assume?
- # [23:22] <@bz> I just rebuilt dep and it had no effect
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- # [23:22] <jwalden> ehsan: perhaps I should munge update-icu.sh to verify that the exact set of patches listed there, is in intl/icu-patches, with no extras
- # [23:23] <jwalden> but probably I should wait til this fix has been done, before doing such minor tidying-ups
- # [23:23] <@ehsan> bz: I guess so
- # [23:23] <@ehsan> jwalden: or, just put a README file there telling people what they are supposed to do
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- # [23:24] <@bz> ok, building
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- # [23:24] <jwalden> ehsan: clearly both :-)
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- # [23:24] <jwalden> ehsan: there's https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Waldo/Internationalization_API which I've been meaning to move somewhere permanent, but hadn't come up with a location yet
- # [23:24] <@ehsan> bz: thanks. fwiw, I put down money that this fixes your build :)
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- # [23:25] <@ehsan> jwalden: s#/User:Waldo##
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- # [23:25] <efaust> is there a way in mozconfig to comvince your system to try and build a 32 bit binary if you're on a 64 bit machine?
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- # [23:26] <jwalden> ehsan: intl/icu/README.html probably; it's relevant only to people patching source, who already have it on hand, and then we can force updates to it as patches land, as part of said patches :-)
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- # [23:26] <jwalden> efaust: yeah, we have it documented somewhere
- # [23:26] <jwalden> efaust: bunch of -m32 and such you have to add to things
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- # [23:27] <@ehsan> jwalden: sounds good to me
- # [23:27] <jwalden> efaust: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Compiling_32-bit_Firefox_on_a_Linux_64-bit_OS or so
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- # [23:27] <jwalden> one of those things I do once in a blue moon and never think about after I've gotten my system able to do it
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- # [23:28] <@bz> ehsan: after clobber, works
- # [23:28] <jwalden> firebot: ping
- # [23:29] <firebot> jwalden: pong
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- # [23:30] <@ehsan> bz: great, I'll land the patch then
- # [23:30] <@ehsan> except... that the tree is CLOSED :(
- # [23:30] <@ehsan> what was I thinking?
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- # [23:32] <@ehsan> bz: posted the patch on the bug, set checkin-needed etc
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- # [23:33] <@ehsan> sorry this bit you
- # [23:33] <@ehsan> vlad: https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar
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- # [23:33] <@bz> ehsan: happens
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- # [23:37] <jwalden> hopefully less, what with ./update-icu.sh <URL in that script> being a no-op as an easy way to test not missing any changes
- # [23:37] <jwalden> ehsan: ^ I assume that's the case with that patch, correct?
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- # [23:37] <efaust> jwalden: |sudo apt-get install lib32*| is not a winning (but is indeed a suggested) plan
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- # [23:38] <@ehsan> jwalden: not sure what you're asking!
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- # [23:39] <jwalden> ehsan: in a tree with that patch applied, |cd intl/; ./update-icu.sh http://source.icu-project.org/repos/icu/icu/tags/release-52-1/| should result in no changes at all to the tree
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- # [23:39] <@ehsan> jwalden: testing
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- # [23:46] <efaust> jwalden: yeah, that document is pretty stale, I think
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- # [23:50] <@ehsan> jwalden: the diff is far from empty
- # [23:50] <jwalden> ehsan: bleh
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- # [23:51] <jwalden> ehsan: what sort of changes are there?
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- # [23:51] <jwalden> ehsan: actually, wait
- # [23:51] <jwalden> ehsan: what's patch --version say?
- # [23:52] <jwalden> ehsan: I forgot, that file requires patch 2.7 which OS X doesn't ship :-(
- # [23:52] <@ehsan> jwalden: https://gist.github.com/ehsan/8794052
- # [23:52] <@ehsan> ah
- # [23:52] <jwalden> ehsan: yeah, that's patch < 2.7
- # [23:52] <Gijs> Anyone else use qimportbz and getting TypeError: promptchoice() takes at most 3 arguments (4 given) errors?
- # [23:52] <@ehsan> mine is 2.5.8
- # [23:52] * Gijs is getting a little annoyed
- # [23:52] <jwalden> ehsan: now that ICU's updated I need to add an exit case to check that in the script
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- # [23:53] <jwalden> that Date stuff there is interesting, tho
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- # [23:53] <jwalden> I thought I'd fixed that
- # [23:53] <RyanVM> Gijs: you on python 2.7.6?
- # [23:53] <sfink> Gijs: I just fixed that problem in bzexport
- # [23:53] <sfink> I guess qimportbz must have it too
- # [23:54] <Gijs> RyanVM: 2.7.5
- # [23:54] <RyanVM> Gijs: nvm me :)
- # [23:54] <sfink> hg changed the function signature in mercurial-2.7.1, I think it was
- # [23:54] <sfink> though my bzexport fix was to just stop calling it entirely; I didn't like the new version anyway
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- # [23:56] -lsblakk:#developers- MERGE DAY - starting now
- # [23:57] <Gijs> sfink: heh.
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- # [23:57] <jwalden> ehsan: as far as all the $Date$ substitutions go in that diff, I suspect you're working against a slightly old tree there; it shouldn't matter where you are when you run that update script, now, because of an |export TZ=UTC| in the script now
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- # [23:57] <sfink> oh, ugh. qimportbz fixed a backwards-compatibility problem in ui.prompt by switching to ui.promptchoice when available. And now they've broken it too....
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- # [23:59] <@ehsan> jwalden: this is latest inbound
- # [23:59] <jwalden> um
- # [23:59] <@ehsan> maybe that's not recent enough? :P
- # [23:59] <jwalden> hmm
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