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  1. # Session Start: Wed Feb 12 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
  3. # [00:00] * philor|away is now known as philor
  4. # [00:00] <heycam> https://blog.mozilla.org/advancingcontent/2014/02/11/publisher-transformation-with-users-at-the-center/ is a better description of the feature
  5. # [00:00] <johns> "Mozilla hasn't given details yet. But, <wildly inaccurate speculation>"
  6. # [00:01] <@gavin> sigh
  7. # [00:01] <dria> gavin: chin up
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  10. # [00:01] <dria> it'll be a day or two of *kermit arms* then folks will figure it out
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  13. # [00:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/df02f131ca15 - Steve Fink - Bug 971208 - Eliminate vanilla new in SegmentedVector.h, r=mjrosenb
  14. # [00:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b62d2430bcde - Steve Fink - Bug 970253 - cx param to JS_AllocateArrayBufferContents is optional, r=terrence
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  16. # [00:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d079291ebd1 - Steve Fink - Bug 963735 - Switch from DFS -> BFS for finding GC paths, r=terrence
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  18. # [00:02] <gcp> someone pointed out firefox uninstall is trending on twitter :P
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  20. # [00:03] <nthomas> orly
  21. # [00:03] <dria> i've checked a few regions and don't see it
  22. # [00:04] <gcp> https://twitter.com/AaronMT/status/433361927402557440
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  25. # [00:04] <dria> i still don't see it
  26. # [00:04] <dria> anyhow
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  41. # [00:10] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: any idea what made bug 966804 so popular today?
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  44. # [00:12] <philor> starting on b-i? touching the network, inappropriately
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  49. # [00:13] <@smaug> uh, that advancing content thing is horrible
  50. # [00:13] <philor> but since the owners of it certainly watch the bug component, if it gets too bad we can just disable the test
  51. # [00:13] <@smaug> could we remove that blob post
  52. # [00:13] <@smaug> blog even
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  55. # [00:14] <glosoli> http://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1xnllr/firefox_will_not_include_ads_stop_the/ upvote it :)
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  57. # [00:15] <@smaug> the blog is still horrible
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  62. # [00:18] <jimm> we brought that on ourselves
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  64. # [00:19] * seth is having no luck pushing to try
  65. # [00:19] <yeukhon> ggp: ping
  66. # [00:20] <seth> remote: waiting for lock on repository /repo/hg/mozilla/try held by 'hgssh1.dmz.scl3.mozilla.com:23699'
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  74. # [00:21] <bkero> seth: surkov is currently pushing to try
  75. # [00:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b551a3c4fe0 - Eric Faust - Bug 968097 - Fix blatantly mistaken error-handling path. (f=Jesse, r=jwalden)
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  78. # [00:22] <surkov> I do, why does it take so long?
  79. # [00:22] <seth> yes, that is a good question
  80. # [00:23] <seth> nice, it finally went through
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  83. # [00:24] <bkero> surkov: we believe it is related to how mercurial handles calculating deltas between parents, especially when the parents are very old.
  84. # [00:25] <surkov> I see
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  86. # [00:25] <bkero> Doing a simple profile of the process reveals it's not making any system or external library calls, and is single-thread CPU limited.
  87. # [00:25] <yeukhon> bkero: are you saying this is global lock?
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  90. # [00:25] <surkov> they shouldn't be too old though
  91. # [00:25] <yeukhon> since so many ppl been hitting that error altely
  92. # [00:25] <bkero> yeukhon: What erro?
  93. # [00:25] <bkero> r?
  94. # [00:25] <yeukhon> bkelly: lock
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  96. # [00:25] <yeukhon> repo lock
  97. # [00:26] <bkero> yeukhon: It's not really an error
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  99. # [00:26] <bkero> It saw the repository was locked, and is waiting for the last transaction to finish before moving yours in.
  100. # [00:27] <yeukhon> so we all share the same repository? i always assume i have my own isolated repo somewhere and just pulling from master if necessary?
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  103. # [00:28] <bkero> Everybody pushes to the same 'try' repository, correct. It currently has 3529 heads.
  104. # [00:28] <seth> yeukhon: this is try we're talking about
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  107. # [00:29] <db48x> dria: lol @ kermit arms
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  109. # [00:29] <@roc> I guess it's not a coincidence that jcranmer is an email developer and has non-BMP Unicode characters in his "From" line
  110. # [00:29] <@roc> but it sounds like asking for trouble!
  111. # [00:29] <@khuey> roc: dbaron does that in his signature
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  114. # [00:30] <@dbaron> 𝄞, 𝄢, and 𝄂
  115. # [00:30] <@roc> David "Bobby Tables" Baron
  116. # [00:31] <db48x> I know I guy with RLO in his From: line
  117. # [00:31] <yeukhon> seth what is the benefit of having say sharing one master (so creating head) vs for each new try user clone central and then pull thereafter?
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  119. # [00:31] <jcranmer> roc: I added that to test the support of other clients with non-BMP characters
  120. # [00:31] <db48x> messes up my Gnus summary buffers in an annoying way
  121. # [00:31] <@roc> db48x: unbalanced, of course?
  122. # [00:31] <db48x> naturally
  123. # [00:31] <db48x> makes the whole line backwards
  124. # [00:31] <@roc> I'm not sure if that's part of the problem or part of the solution
  125. # [00:31] <yeukhon> im not saying thats wrong, just didn't match my old assumption.
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  127. # [00:32] <jcranmer> specifically, after I discovered that you could confuse Thunderbird and get it to break between the two halves of the surrogate pair
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  129. # [00:32] <db48x> jcranmer: shiny
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  131. # [00:33] <jcranmer> I have a patch which fixes that
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  133. # [00:33] <jcranmer> but it's stuck in review hell
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  135. # [00:33] <db48x> I tried to fix the Gnus problem
  136. # [00:33] <db48x> but it's really hard, since the text is going into an ordinary text buffer
  137. # [00:33] <db48x> so it doesn't reset until the end of the paragraph, which is the whole line
  138. # [00:34] <seth> yeukhon: well, i didn't set up this system, but if i understand your suggestion correctly, i imagine the benefit is that try only has to store the changes you made instead of an entire new copy of the repo
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  140. # [00:34] <db48x> yea, the try server ends up with gazillions of heads
  141. # [00:35] <yeukhon> seth not quite. basically. first time someone push to try, clone central. any later try from that user will pull from central and then push user's commits.
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  144. # [00:36] <yeukhon> but i suppose there are incidents where single try repo can help. (minus storage headache)
  145. # [00:36] <seth> yeukhon: that still means a copy of the repo for each user... i'm not sure you benefit enough having a separate repo for each user to justify that
  146. # [00:37] <seth> the problems today are exceptional; it usually works just fine
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  150. # [00:42] <bdahl> gavin: is there anyone i should talk to if i plan on increasing the size of ff by ~2.2MB?
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  153. # [00:43] <yeukhon> seth: sure i think it's fine just wanna confirm what i assumed.
  154. # [00:43] <shu> bdahl: what is 2.2 megs?
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  157. # [00:43] <shu> bdahl: (i'm not the person you should talk to, i'm just curious)
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  159. # [00:43] <bdahl> character mapping files
  160. # [00:44] <@khuey> dev-platofrm
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  233. # [01:07] <WillPittenger> I'm looking for developers that are willing to look at the specification for a new language called ASIL. Take a look at https://sourceforge.net/p/asil/ for more. Since it's only a specification, everything is for the time being in the wiki ( https://sourceforge.net/p/asil/wiki/Home/ ). Let me know if you're interested. Currently, there's no connection to Mozilla, but I wouldn't mind being...
  234. # [01:07] <WillPittenger> ...backed by them.
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  248. # [01:13] <froydnj> WillPittenger: how does this benefit Mozilla and why would Mozilla focus attention on asil vs. say, js?
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  251. # [01:14] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: r=you? for disabling that plugin test on b2g-desktop?
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  255. # [01:15] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: yeah, though there's no need for an r at all
  256. # [01:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28de6113cad8 - Wes Kocher - Bug 967694 - Disable the new test on b2g
  257. # [01:16] <froydnj> r=very-crash-much-bustage-so-orange
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  260. # [01:18] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: sorry that took so long, thought the patch author was pushing a followup, so I never followed it up :(
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  263. # [01:19] <KWierso|sheriffduty> Gijs: bustage :(
  264. # [01:19] <Gijs> KWierso|sheriffduty: I'm blaming adw
  265. # [01:19] <Gijs> his windows builds haven't finished, and my linux one is green :P
  266. # [01:20] <Gijs> KWierso|sheriffduty: still very sad though. :\
  267. # [01:20] <KWierso|sheriffduty> Gijs: adw's linux ones are green
  268. # [01:20] <Gijs> KWierso|sheriffduty: right, but I'm saying the orange is only on Windows
  269. # [01:20] <Gijs> and there's no Windows bc for his changes
  270. # [01:20] <Gijs> they got coalesced.
  271. # [01:20] <Gijs> There's debug ones but waiting for those means we're here for another 2 hours
  272. # [01:21] <Gijs> KWierso|sheriffduty: but really, the more important bit is, he changed something that's actually related to the orange
  273. # [01:21] <Gijs> KWierso|sheriffduty: still confused as to how it's causing orange though
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  276. # [01:26] <NeilAway> what was the link to the channel log that included joins/parts?
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  282. # [01:29] <jcranmer> WillPittenger: this may sound rather cruel, but why should I care about your new programming language?
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  286. # [01:31] <jcranmer> for me (or anyone else, really) to justify spending time working on a new language, it needs justification more than "I took $X language and added $Y features"
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  291. # [01:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2603ed1bbfa1 - Steve Fink - Bug 961314 - tooltool manifests for hazard analysis (gcc and sixgill). DONTBUILD
  292. # [01:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d48fce3ffa2 - Steve Fink - Bug 961314 - Add the rootanalysis mozconfig to the tree, r=glandium
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  297. # [01:40] <Gijs> How do I run tests against an arbitrary build?
  298. # [01:41] <sfink> on what tree?
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  301. # [01:42] <Gijs> sfink: locally?
  302. # [01:42] <sfink> oh. What tests? It's easiest if mach supports running them.
  303. # [01:42] <Gijs> sfink: like, on my m-c tree, I'd like to grab a random firefox.exe and run some mochitest-browser-chrome tests against it?
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  306. # [01:42] <sfink> oh, that
  307. # [01:42] <sfink> ugh
  308. # [01:42] <Gijs> it does, but I ./mach help mochitest-browser doesn't let me specify an executable
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  310. # [01:43] <sfink> I have random notes from long ago for what I did back then
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  313. # [01:43] <Gijs> sfink: I'm just clobbering at this point, so I guess in 16 minutes I'll have my answer either way :s
  314. # [01:44] <ggp> yeukhon: pong
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  318. # [01:46] <sfink> yeah, I have notes on doing that for mochitests, xpcshell tests, and jsreftests. They're all old, and different, and massively ugly. They're probably out of date and would do more harm than good.
  319. # [01:46] <yeukhon> ggp: i have a question regarding https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=650295
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  321. # [01:47] <yeukhon> in fact the status of webspeech. is this for the html5 web speech api? the same that one can use in chrome?
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  323. # [01:47] <ggp> yeukhon: this is the api: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/speech-api/raw-file/tip/speechapi.html . I think chrome had a different one at one point, but now implements that one.
  324. # [01:47] <ggp> so yes, the same.
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  327. # [01:49] <yeukhon> thanks. so my senior project is around controlling firefox with voice. there is literally no doc on webspeech. how mature is it? can we actually hook up my mac built-in mic to firefox now, record?
  328. # [01:49] <yeukhon> i kinda looked at the test files. so i have a feeling we can understand some audio input
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  336. # [01:51] <ggp> yeukhon: that sounds like a pretty cool project :) sadly no, the feature is not complete yet -- bug 650295 was about writing the code to record audio and send it to some actual recognition service for processing
  337. # [01:51] <@roc> yeukhon: you want Eitan Isaacson
  338. # [01:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/957ddf01db26 - Paul Adenot - Bug 970147 - Don't assume WASAPI can give us a channel layout suggestion. r=kinetik
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  340. # [01:51] <ggp> yeukhon: we still have no integration with any such external recognition service
  341. # [01:52] <yeukhon> ggp: ah. i see. :/ guess for now i am better off with chrome and come back to firefox later.
  342. # [01:52] <ggp> that's on the speech recognition front. eitan worked on speech synthesis if you're interested in that too.
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  346. # [01:53] <yeukhon> well it'd be nice if i could have an external service (desktop app) to inject the speech-to-text output into firefox through addon
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  350. # [01:54] <ggp> it shouldn't be too hard to integrate with some recognition library of your choice if you want, if only as a prototype for your project.
  351. # [01:54] <ggp> but then again you'd kind of be the first one to do it seriously, so things may break :)
  352. # [01:54] <yeukhon> true. i can. naively i can evne just run over socket...
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  354. # [01:55] <ggp> yeukhon: this is the interface you'd need to implement: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/webspeech/recognition/nsISpeechRecognitionService.idl
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  363. # [01:59] <ggp> yeukhon: anyway, I'm off to bed now. you should hang out on #htmlspeech if you decide to do this.
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  366. # [01:59] <yeukhon> ggp: sorry i was reading the doc. i will definitely hang out there more often. thanks so much though. good night
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  370. # [02:01] <@roc> ggp|away: he wouldn't be the first one.
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  376. # [02:05] <sokomo> inallovertheyear
  377. # [02:05] <sokomo> ...
  378. # [02:06] <sokomo> Sorry, typo in different place
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  382. # [02:07] <yeukhon> roc: oh i missed ur comment up there. are you talking about speech api in b2g? https://air.mozilla.org/intern-presentations-20121127/
  383. # [02:08] <@roc> I don't think so
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  391. # [02:13] <vlad> anyone know how the admins are of the "Mozilla" org in github?
  392. # [02:13] <yeukhon> roc: thanks. i will reach out to Eitan Isaacson thanks!
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  394. # [02:13] <vlad> I bet github can tell me
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  398. # [02:15] <@gavin> vlad: I'm one
  399. # [02:15] <vlad> gavin: can you add me? (vvuk on github)
  400. # [02:15] <vlad> I want to create a moz-contrib-tools repo after discussion with a bunch of folks
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  402. # [02:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5290d9ce7f16 - Alexander Surkov - Bug 956032 - text selection change event is missed when selected text becomes unselected, r=tbsaunde
  403. # [02:15] <vlad> I forgot what we called it, basically a place to have moz-developer related things that are less curated than stuff in the tree, but generally useful
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  405. # [02:16] <@gavin> if I can remember how to...
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  407. # [02:16] <@gavin> hmm, maybe someone removed me!?
  408. # [02:16] <vlad> click on account settings at the top right, then click on Mozilla on the left
  409. # [02:16] <vlad> go to Owners
  410. # [02:16] <vlad> and add member
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  412. # [02:17] <@gavin> ok done
  413. # [02:17] <@gavin> very confusing UI
  414. # [02:17] <vlad> thanks!
  415. # [02:17] <vlad> I'm sure it makes sense to some web ux designers somewhere ;)
  416. # [02:18] <@gavin> you'd think I could edit the org settings from somewhere on https://github.com/mozilla
  417. # [02:18] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
  418. # [02:18] <@gavin> oh I can, there's a little gear icon
  419. # [02:18] <@gavin> bah
  420. # [02:18] <db48x> designers love little gear icons
  421. # [02:18] <db48x> it's almost as bad as hammer+screwdriver
  422. # [02:19] <@gavin> github's personal settings icon is screwdriver+wrench
  423. # [02:19] <db48x> :)
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  425. # [02:20] <db48x> I'm not sure which is worse
  426. # [02:20] <mbrubeck> Weird JSM import bug: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21715188/javascript-code-modules-mutual-import-firefox-addon
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  428. # [02:21] <mbrubeck> ah, I think I see the problem
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  430. # [02:21] <@gavin> it's just infiniteloop protection
  431. # [02:21] <@gavin> for imports
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  454. # [02:32] <mbrubeck> Posted my answer at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21715188/javascript-code-modules-mutual-import-firefox-addon/21716882#21716882
  455. # [02:32] <mbrubeck> People need to stop creating question and answer sites
  456. # [02:32] <mbrubeck> I get addicted
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  458. # [02:32] <mbrubeck> It's like programming puzzles mixed with cookie clicker
  459. # [02:33] <@gavin> wait
  460. # [02:33] <@gavin> why is that on stackoverflow and not ask.mozilla.org
  461. # [02:33] <@gavin> oh, you didn't ask that
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  481. # [02:45] <db48x> mbrubeck: that's a good analogy
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  501. # [02:54] <till> bholley: raincode.org gives every so slightly less details than the rainbeard README on github made me expect. (And yes, I do realize that this is an old project)
  502. # [02:55] <bholley> till: lol
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  504. # [02:56] <bholley> till: the development portal was lost when I upgraded my server
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  506. # [02:56] <till> bholley: ah, I see
  507. # [02:56] * bholley looks it up
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  511. # [02:57] <bholley> till: https://web.archive.org/web/20110917095935/http://raincode.org/projects/rainbeard/wiki/Introduction
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  515. # [02:58] <bholley> till: oh, looks like the interesting parts still aren't archived
  516. # [02:58] <bholley> hah
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  520. # [02:59] <bholley> till: anyway, we wrote some papers, but our interesting data sources dried up for political reasons, and I didn't have the energy to develop it while working on mozilla stuff
  521. # [02:59] <till> bholley: no worries. I just stumbled upon it while looking up your username on github
  522. # [02:59] <till> bholley: makes sense
  523. # [02:59] <till> bholley: what were your interesting data sources?
  524. # [03:00] <bholley> till: http://www.aaai.org/ocs/index.php/ICWSM/ICWSM12/paper/view/4627/5051
  525. # [03:00] <bholley> till: couchsurfing mostly
  526. # [03:01] <gcp> I'm surprised nsTArray has no Shift or Pop
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  528. # [03:01] <db48x> it's not that kind of array
  529. # [03:01] <till> bholley: interesting. Thanks for the link
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  531. # [03:02] <bholley> till: np - I'm happy to tell you more about the system next time we see each other. It's pretty neat - we just didn't have the resources to see it through
  532. # [03:03] <bholley> till: also, I had some squatter who bought the domain "rincode.org" try to sell it to me ;-)
  533. # [03:03] <till> haha, wow
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  537. # [03:05] <till> bholley: I'd be very interested in that. For a while I looked into creating a startup thingy that'd essentially be a user-curated news service, where you could subscribe to topics of interest and get push notifications for them. Apart from deciding that I'm just not a startup person, I realized that trust would be a major issue that'd have to be figured out
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  539. # [03:05] <bholley> till: yeah the subjectivity part is pretty neat - very attack-proof
  540. # [03:05] <bholley> till: but you need to know the network data
  541. # [03:06] <bholley> till: edges, weights, etc
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  543. # [03:06] <bholley> that part's hard
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  545. # [03:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/84415b7c3f29 - Nick Alexander - Bug 969922 - Part 1: Remove unused cruft from FennecNativeElement. r=mcomella
  546. # [03:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a101a9475c10 - Nick Alexander - Bug 969922 - Part 4: Remove final use of fennec_ids.txt. r=mcomella
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  548. # [03:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f4de5bbd44b - Nick Alexander - Bug 969922 - Pre: Close cursor. r=mcomella
  549. # [03:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0219e9ab57a4 - Nick Alexander - Bug 969922 - Part 3: Don't use Solo.getView(String). r=mcomella
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  551. # [03:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d3e11d7ae99d - Nick Alexander - Bug 969922 - Part 2: Replace Driver.findElement(Activity, String) with (Activity, int). r=mcomella
  552. # [03:06] <till> bholley: yep, I got that far in my research :)
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  711. # [04:22] <@roc> how does one send TimeStamps via IPDL?
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  715. # [04:23] <efaust> RyanVM|afk: My apologies for landing a branch before trunk stuck, but it did have security approval
  716. # [04:23] <efaust> oh, I'm lying
  717. # [04:23] <efaust> bleh
  718. # [04:24] <RyanVM|afk> efaust: yeah....
  719. # [04:24] <RyanVM|afk> and it's two different issues there
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  722. # [04:24] <RyanVM|afk> the whole "don't shoot yourself in the foot" with multi-tree bustage and/or 0daying yourself
  723. # [04:25] <RyanVM|afk> efaust: and FWIW, it got your fix on Aurora about 12hr earlier than it otherwise would have
  724. # [04:25] <RyanVM|afk> "yay
  725. # [04:25] <RyanVM|afk> "
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  727. # [04:26] <efaust> yeah, you're right
  728. # [04:26] <efaust> I thought I had checked all the boxes. My mistake
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  730. # [04:26] <efaust> I wasn't trying to hurry it in, really
  731. # [04:26] <efaust> or at least, that wasn't my intention
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  733. # [04:27] <efaust> RyanVM|afk: is there anything blocking closing that bug? Or was the point to remind me that I was mistaken?
  734. # [04:28] <RyanVM|afk> efaust: hasn't landed on m-c yet
  735. # [04:28] <RyanVM|afk> which is when we resolve bugs
  736. # [04:28] <RyanVM|afk> probably won't merge to m-c until the morning when I wake up since our European sheriffs are both out the rest of teh week
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  738. # [04:29] <RyanVM|afk> unless KWierso or philor feel like doing one tonight still
  739. # [04:30] <philor> reminding you that you were mistaken was just a bonus!
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  741. # [04:30] <philor> yeah, wth, I can merge-and-go-home and leave it for... for... hmm
  742. # [04:31] <RyanVM|afk> yeah...
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  744. # [04:33] <efaust> RyanVM|afk: jesus, it's like I've forgotten everything about how our process works. Yes, obviously. I'm sorry.
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  746. # [04:34] <philor> nice, and my m-i merge point has unknown PGO mochitest orange
  747. # [04:36] <till> nice. Yahoo just informed me that they'll move all European accounts to a centralized company in Ireland. They tell me this doesn't change anything for me. (Except for the tiny, teensy changes to how they treat my data, enabled by Ireland having almost no restrictions on said usage, compared to Germany.)
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  749. # [04:37] <philor> read the fine print, make sure they don't mean Ireland, Nigeria
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  751. # [04:38] <RyanVM|afk> efaust: sorry, didn't mean to come off as dumping on you
  752. # [04:38] <RyanVM|afk> this is just the second time this week I've had simul-landings, and the last time didn't go as smoothly as yours
  753. # [04:38] <efaust> RyanVM|afk: yeah, I will avoid doing that in the future :)
  754. # [04:39] <RyanVM|afk> sgtm :)
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  756. # [04:39] <bz> efaust: Got a sec?
  757. # [04:39] * philor realizes that his merge point is also in the middle of a backed out range just in time
  758. # [04:39] <bz> RyanVM|afk: I assume that mozilla-release landings also happen automagically?
  759. # [04:39] <RyanVM|afk> bz: sorta - I don't actively look for them given how rare they are, but I tend to find out when they're needed :)
  760. # [04:39] <efaust> bz: briefly. What's up?
  761. # [04:40] <RyanVM|afk> bz: this is for the crasher I presume?
  762. # [04:40] <RyanVM|afk> bz: I'm also on release-drivers, so I see all those emails
  763. # [04:40] <bz> efaust: Did you figure out what TI was aup to?
  764. # [04:40] <efaust> bz: yeah, there's a fix up. I can explain it in PM, if you would like
  765. # [04:40] <bz> RyanVM|afk: yeah. Basically checking whether I should land it or whether you'll end up doing it
  766. # [04:40] <bz> efaust: please!
  767. # [04:41] <RyanVM|afk> bz: did they decide to go ahead with 27.0.1?
  768. # [04:41] * RyanVM|afk wasn't sure if gm could work around it or not
  769. # [04:41] <bz> RyanVM|afk: they can, but we have a ton of crashes for users with GM not installed
  770. # [04:42] <RyanVM|afk> ok
  771. # [04:42] <bz> RyanVM|afk: So https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=934509#c51
  772. # [04:42] <bz> RyanVM|afk: Again, I'm happy to do the push myself if you'd prefer
  773. # [04:42] <RyanVM|afk> bz: i'm going to be going offline soon tonight, otherwise I'll get it first thing in the morning
  774. # [04:42] <RyanVM|afk> whatever works for you
  775. # [04:43] <bz> Well, clearly me not doing any work works great for me. ;)
  776. # [04:43] <RyanVM|afk> lol
  777. # [04:43] <RyanVM|afk> just wasn't sure how urgent it is
  778. # [04:43] <RyanVM|afk> but it's no problem for me in the morning
  779. # [04:43] <bz> I think tomorrow will be just fine
  780. # [04:43] <RyanVM|afk> ok
  781. # [04:43] <till> philor: oh, they don't have any reason to go to Nigeria. Ireland really pretty much doesn't have any restrictions
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  783. # [04:44] <RyanVM|afk> philor: meh, we at least got 2 rounds of merges in today
  784. # [04:44] * RyanVM|afk won't shed a tear if we don't get 3
  785. # [04:45] <philor> RyanVM|afk: I can grab a little, but it'll be miles below efaust, barely above your last mergeback
  786. # [04:45] * efaust is in no hurry to get it merged, just asked a stupid question ;)
  787. # [04:45] <RyanVM|afk> doesn't sound worth tit to me
  788. # [04:45] <philor> nope
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  816. # [05:15] <briansmith> yes, that is great!
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  821. # [05:21] <jgilbert> pushing to try has been taking forever :(
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  842. # [05:45] <Callek> not sure if jgilbert meant that pushing itself is slow, or that pushing-->results is slow, I somehow suspect the latter
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  848. # [05:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5eaddcb75da - Brian Smith - Bug 971178, Part 3: Expand test_certificate_usages.js test insanity::pkix, r=cviecco
  849. # [05:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da8f41eef4ba - Brian Smith - Bug 971178, Part 4: Expand test_intermediates_basic_constraints.js test insanity::pkix, r=cviecco
  850. # [05:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ccbdd0430f2 - Camilo Viecco - Bug 877376: Add tests for intermediate CA basic constraints and KU/EKU, r=briansmith
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  853. # [05:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7a95b0132c6 - Brian Smith - Bug 971178, Part 2: Make test_getchains.js test insanity::pkix, r=cviecco
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  855. # [05:55] <romaxa> does anybody know how to specify preference for mochitest ? like this one http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/reftests/webcomponents/reftest.list#1 ?
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  1021. # [07:35] <briansmith> Is there going to be a merge m-i -> m-c tonight?
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  1027. # [07:38] <KWierso> briansmith: no
  1028. # [07:38] <briansmith> OK, thanks.
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  1032. # [07:39] <KWierso> briansmith: probably nothing until ryan gets up in the morning, as edmorley is out and tomcat is sick
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  1034. # [07:39] <briansmith> OK. Then I will sleep tonight.
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  1087. # [08:11] <briansmith> If I uplift something to Aurora 29, how does that affect B2G, if at all?
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  1090. # [08:12] <briansmith> It seems like Gekco 28 is 1.3 and Gecko 30 is 1.4, so Gecko 29 is nothing as far as B2G is concerned?
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  1097. # [08:15] <fabrice> briansmith: correct
  1098. # [08:15] <briansmith> thank you!
  1099. # [08:16] <fabrice> briansmith: in general, sheriffs take are of merging what needs to be anyway
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  1102. # [08:16] <briansmith> fabrice: Yes, I'm just trying to figure out if I make a big change to the app signature verification logic, if it would add risk to B2G to uplift to 29
  1103. # [08:18] <fabrice> briansmith: that's fine
  1104. # [08:18] <fabrice> go ahead
  1105. # [08:18] <briansmith> Thanks.
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  1110. # [08:24] <briansmith> fabrice: do you know if reviewers always install their apps from a particular part of the marketplace.firefox.com website?
  1111. # [08:24] <romaxa> nsAppShellService.cpp:49:25: fatal error: EventTracer.h: No such file or directory
  1112. # [08:25] <briansmith> I'm thinking about changing how the reviewer mechanism works, so that if an app is installed from https://marketplace.firefox.com/reviewers/<whatever>, then it automatically gets verified using the reviewer cert insteaad of the normal cert.
  1113. # [08:25] <briansmith> That way, app reviewers don't need to do the inconvenient "install the reviewer cert" stuff that I built a long time ago
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  1115. # [08:25] <briansmith> and also it would work on all platforms, including Android and desktop
  1116. # [08:26] <romaxa> paul: ^^^
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  1118. # [08:26] <fabrice> briansmith: I know next to nothing about the reviewer flow
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  1121. # [08:28] <briansmith> ooks, got disconnected
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  1124. # [08:29] <fabrice> briansmith: I said " I know next to nothing about the reviewer flow"
  1125. # [08:30] <fabrice> but if they don't need a custom certificate that looks like a win!
  1126. # [08:30] <briansmith> OK.
  1127. # [08:30] <briansmith> Is dev-webapps the best place to make that proposal?
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  1131. # [08:31] <fabrice> briansmith: yep
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  1142. # [08:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58ce2022d43b - Martyn Haigh - bug 967735 - Check orientation type and convert appropiately if incorrect; r=wesj
  1143. # [08:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8983c0bf1297 - Martyn Haigh - bug 958358 - make webapp capitalisation consistent; r=wesj
  1144. # [08:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3b9b91bf893 - Martyn Haigh - bug 965324 - validate data coming in to webapp dispatcher; r=wesj
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  1156. # [08:50] <avih> nrc: did you manage something with yournew/old sync issue?
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  1172. # [09:02] <@dbaron> wait a minute, why do I see this on startup:
  1173. # [09:02] <@dbaron> [31908] WARNING: Failed to open external DTD: publicId "-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.1//EN" systemId "http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd" base "file:///home/dbaron/builds/fraser/firefox-debugopt/browser/chrome/browser/skin/classic/browser/tabbrowser/tab-selected-start.svg" URL "resource://gre/res/dtd/svg11.dtd": file /home/dbaron/builds/ssd/mozilla-central/mozilla/parser/htmlparser/src/nsExpatDriver.cpp, line 696
  1174. # [09:02] <@dbaron> I hope we're not actually trying to load that DTD.
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  1176. # [09:03] <glandium> gkw: ping
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  1180. # [09:09] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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  1185. # [09:10] <nrc> avih: no, no-one seems to have any idea what to do :-s
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  1187. # [09:11] <avih> nrc: do you know if it's firefox itself which prevents syncing new devices? or is it the server which prevents it?
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  1189. # [09:12] <avih> nrc: if it's the server, then there a very small 3rd part php sync server on github. been using it for about a year and it works great. all you need is someplace to host few php files, and you got your own server.
  1190. # [09:12] <nrc> avih: oh _that_ sync problem, sorry I thought you talking about an OMTC thing :-p
  1191. # [09:13] <avih> nrc: ah :)
  1192. # [09:13] <nrc> I just changed to nightly on my old machine and used the same profile, then syn'ed using the new sync
  1193. # [09:13] <nrc> a bit of a hassle, but it seems to have worked OK. Just got to do all my other devices still
  1194. # [09:14] <avih> hmm.. not fun
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  1196. # [09:14] <avih> i still dislike the new sync where your email is an "anchor"..
  1197. # [09:15] <avih> and the fact that there's no stand alone easy-to-setup sync server
  1198. # [09:15] <nrc> yeah, I was a fan of the pairing UI - no typing on mobile - typing a username and password always annoys me on phones
  1199. # [09:15] <avih> (for the new sync)
  1200. # [09:16] <avih> tbh, i don't like my browser requiring me to have an "account"...
  1201. # [09:16] <nrc> I think old sync was a much better solution for technical users, but then they (we) are in a bit of a minority there
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  1204. # [09:17] <nsm> Sylvestre: ping
  1205. # [09:17] <avih> yeah. i did see the presentation this new-sync guy gave. it's apparently not bad, but, dunno, especially with all the data collection going on today, having a central repository of all firefox users doesn't seems right to me...
  1206. # [09:18] <nsm> Sylvestre: i've never landed on aurora before. if i get approval, do I just push to mozilla-aurora or does it happen automatically in bugzilla?
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  1208. # [09:18] <KWierso|afk> nsm: ryanVM typically does a round or two of uplifts of already-approved patches
  1209. # [09:18] <KWierso|afk> each day
  1210. # [09:19] <KWierso|afk> but nothing should stop you from landing yourself if you really want it in right away
  1211. # [09:19] <glandium> nrc: what i don't get is whether the key is kept on mozilla servers with the new sync... i've seen contradicting statements about that
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  1213. # [09:19] <KWierso|afk> though doing multiple uplifts in a single push spares the build infrastructure a bit over pushing everything separately
  1214. # [09:20] <nrc> avih: it is still client side encrypted ,which is nice, but yeah, I totally agree, I am much happier having a decentralised style sync. Would have been cool if we could use WebRTC so after the first handshake we go peer to peer
  1215. # [09:20] <nsm> KWierso|afk: alright, i'll let it happen automatically, really need to sleep anyway. thanks!
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  1218. # [09:20] <avih> glandium: iirc it is, but on a different server. if you need a recovery by email, then it fetches from that otehr server, otherwise, iirc, it's only at the client
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  1221. # [09:21] <nrc> ah
  1222. # [09:21] <glandium> avih: is there an option not to have it on that other server?
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  1226. # [09:21] <nrc> this seems considerably weaker from the point of view of keeping ones data away from the NSA
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  1228. # [09:21] <avih> glandium: don't know. haven't tried it myself yet. i'm hosting my own old-style sync server
  1229. # [09:22] <nrc> in the early discussions about new sync, it was meant to be an option. There certainly isn't that option when you sign up for it though
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  1231. # [09:22] <nrc> Not sure if you can customise it
  1232. # [09:23] <avih> and there are plans to unify the new-sync identity with future mozilla services. dunno, this is really not my cup of tea
  1233. # [09:23] <nrc> it _could_ be done well
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  1236. # [09:24] <nrc> fewer usernames and passwords all round would be a real benefit, but that goal seems to be secondary
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  1238. # [09:25] <avih> sync data is very sensitive.. i really don't like 3rd party servers holding the key to look inside. that's the bottom line of it..
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  1240. # [09:25] <avih> and as a user, mozilla _is_ 2rd party
  1241. # [09:25] <avih> 3rd*
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  1244. # [09:25] <Optimizer> how to convert from 'const char *' to 'const char16_t *'
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  1246. # [09:25] <nrc> True. It was great when we could say 'your data is invisible to us'
  1247. # [09:26] <avih> exactly
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  1252. # [09:27] <avih> glandium: you should watch the new-sync presentation on air mozilla
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  1254. # [09:28] <glandium> avih: neither a search for "sync" or "accounts" show anything related
  1255. # [09:28] <avih> glandium: i watched it about a week ago. sec, let me look.
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  1257. # [09:29] <avih> glandium: https://air.mozilla.org/firefox-sync-then-now-soon/
  1258. # [09:29] <avih> maybe the search could be improved...
  1259. # [09:30] <glandium> actually, it does show up as a search result
  1260. # [09:30] <glandium> ... if i authenticate
  1261. # [09:30] <glandium> why the hell is this video private?
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  1263. # [09:31] <glandium> it's not even mozillians-available, it's mozilla-staff only
  1264. # [09:31] <avih> dunno...
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  1266. # [09:31] <Ms2ger> Boo
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  1269. # [09:33] <Optimizer> anyone ?
  1270. # [09:33] <avih> Optimizer: ?
  1271. # [09:33] <Ms2ger> What's in the const char*?
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  1273. # [09:33] <Optimizer> a string
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  1275. # [09:33] <Ms2ger> ASCII? UTF-8? EBCDIC?
  1276. # [09:33] <glandium> literal?
  1277. # [09:34] <Optimizer> gosh, so many questions
  1278. # [09:34] <Optimizer> let me see
  1279. # [09:34] <glandium> do you need both?
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  1282. # [09:35] <Optimizer> I dont know what type of string it is.
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  1285. # [09:36] <Optimizer> HttpBaseChannel::SetCookie gets an argument as const char *
  1286. # [09:36] <Optimizer> and I want to convert it to const char16_t * to be used in NotifyObserver third argument
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  1291. # [09:38] <Ms2ger> Bah
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  1294. # [09:39] <avih> Ms2ger: btw, these links should give the same overview as the talk, fwiw: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity/FirefoxAccounts https://github.com/mozilla/fxa-auth-server/wiki/onepw-protocol
  1295. # [09:39] <Optimizer> oh well, type casting works :D
  1296. # [09:39] <Ms2ger> No it doesn't
  1297. # [09:40] <Optimizer> it did
  1298. # [09:40] <Ms2ger> It's broken
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  1301. # [09:41] <Optimizer> let me see
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  1303. # [09:41] <evilpie> 8bit vs 16bit don't do this
  1304. # [09:42] <Optimizer> oh boy : 潣楲㵤呍硯積祫呍に穎㉍橏睅䑌
  1305. # [09:42] <Ms2ger> Told you so :)
  1306. # [09:42] <Optimizer> :D
  1307. # [09:42] <Optimizer> soo ? :(
  1308. # [09:42] <evilpie> Ye
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  1311. # [09:43] <Optimizer> can someone even understand that ?
  1312. # [09:43] <Optimizer> is it chinese ?
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  1315. # [09:43] <Ms2ger> Looks like you probably gte utf-8
  1316. # [09:43] <Ms2ger> get*
  1317. # [09:43] <lpy> no
  1318. # [09:43] <lpy> it isn't chinese
  1319. # [09:43] <Ms2ger> So NS_ConvertUTF8toUTF16 str(aString)
  1320. # [09:44] <Ms2ger> ...
  1321. # [09:44] <Ms2ger> Observe(..., str.get())
  1322. # [09:45] * Optimizer tries
  1323. # [09:45] <@khuey> it's definitely chinese on my terminal
  1324. # [09:45] <Optimizer> can u understand chinese ?
  1325. # [09:45] <glandium> it's a bunch of chinese characters
  1326. # [09:45] <lpy> I am Chinese
  1327. # [09:45] <glandium> that doesn't make it chinese
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  1329. # [09:45] <@khuey> sure
  1330. # [09:46] <@khuey> I have no idea if it's a real sentence
  1331. # [09:46] <@khuey> google translate suggests not
  1332. # [09:46] <glandium> actually, there's a japanese character in the middle
  1333. # [09:46] <lpy> it looks like some traditional Chinese words
  1334. # [09:46] <@khuey> converting random data to strings will do that
  1335. # [09:46] <glandium> khuey: it's char * casted as char16_t *
  1336. # [09:47] <lpy> for example this word 穎
  1337. # [09:47] <Optimizer> Ms2ger: thanks. that works
  1338. # [09:47] <lpy> as glandium said, there's Japanese character in the middle
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  1340. # [09:48] <@khuey> glandium: mmm, fun
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  1342. # [09:48] <@khuey> glandium: I wonder how many two byte latin character sequences end up in the CJK charaacter set when you do that
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  1344. # [09:48] <glandium> (i'm actually surprised there's only one character that doesn't exist)
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  1349. # [09:51] <Ms2ger> I saw two
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  1351. # [09:51] <Ms2ger> ㉍ and 䑌
  1352. # [09:51] <glandium> Ms2ger: the latter is displayed "correctly" here
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  1354. # [09:52] <Ms2ger> Weird
  1355. # [09:52] <Ms2ger> http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/444c/index.htm is confused here
  1356. # [09:52] <glandium> http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=444C
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  1358. # [09:52] <glandium> it's DL
  1359. # [09:53] <glandium> or LD, depending on endianness
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  1362. # [09:56] <smontagu> but the string doesn't seem to make sense when converted back
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  1365. # [09:56] <smontagu> ocir=dTMxozMykTM0kzN2MdjOwEDL
  1366. # [09:57] <avih> glandium: nrc: apparently the new sync has 2 classes of data: A and B. the server operator can read class A data but can only try to bruteforce class B data. Class B uses a password to decrypt the data, and that password is not on the server. if you request an account recovery, it uses email authentication to restore your A data, but it resets class B data (so I guess the B password will need to be entered on all synced devices, and they'll
  1367. # [09:57] <avih> need to re-sync their B data from scratch). apparently, right now a user can't choose which of his data is treated as class A/B.
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  1369. # [09:57] <glandium> smontagu: corid=....
  1370. # [09:58] <smontagu> though it might be corrupted in other ways by two or three generations of copy-pasting
  1371. # [10:00] <glandium> avih: the problem is that most users will have passwords like 123456
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  1374. # [10:01] <avih> glandium: yup.
  1375. # [10:02] <Optimizer> has anyone worked with nsLoadGroup ?
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  1380. # [10:06] <nrc> avih: interesting - thanks for looking it up
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  1382. # [10:07] <avih> nrc: np.
  1383. # [10:09] <@dbaron> $ echo "MOZILLA HAS A BUG" | iconv -futf16be
  1384. # [10:09] <@dbaron> 䵏婉䱌䄠䡁匠䄠䉕䜊
  1385. # [10:10] <@dbaron> CJK occupies a pretty big slice of plane 0, remember :-)
  1386. # [10:10] <@dbaron> $ echo "Mozilla has a bug" | iconv -futf16be
  1387. # [10:10] <@dbaron> 䵯穩汬愠桡猠愠扵朊
  1388. # [10:11] <@dbaron> just need to make sure the spaces and punctuation only occupy odd-numbered positions
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  1390. # [10:11] <glandium> dbaron: i'm probably too used to the other kind of multi-char encoding fuckups
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  1392. # [10:12] <glandium> mostly involving utf-8, euc-jp or iso-2022-jp
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  1394. # [10:12] <Optimizer> if I have the window object, and a nsLoadGroup object, how do I make sure that they are linked ?
  1395. # [10:13] <Optimizer> (from js)
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  1397. # [10:14] <gaston> doh
  1398. # [10:14] <gaston> pushed to try without pushing patch first
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  1400. # [10:15] <gaston> CANCEL ALL THE BUILDS!
  1401. # [10:16] <Optimizer> CANCELLED
  1402. # [10:16] <Optimizer> reset all the branches ?
  1403. # [10:17] <gaston> :)
  1404. # [10:17] <gaston> glad i remembered my ldap password..
  1405. # [10:17] <glandium> echo 'CANCEL ALL THE BUILDS' | iconv -futf-16be
  1406. # [10:17] <glandium> 䍁乃䕌⁁䱌⁔䡅⁂啉䱄匊
  1407. # [10:17] <glandium> doesn't really look so good
  1408. # [10:18] <gaston> stop printing horrors to my non-utf8 term! :)
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  1424. # [10:28] <glandium> http://mathiasbynens.be/notes/javascript-unicode
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  1437. # [10:39] <paul> romaxa: I did that :/
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  1440. # [10:40] <paul> romaxa: thanks for the fix
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  1442. # [10:42] <@dbaron> glandium, shouldn't used le, since the spaces are all at even positions
  1443. # [10:42] <@dbaron> should've
  1444. # [10:43] <@dbaron> echo 'CANCEL ALL THE BUILDS' | iconv -futf-16le
  1445. # [10:43] <@dbaron> 䅃䍎䱅䄠䱌吠䕈䈠䥕䑌੓
  1446. # [10:43] <@dbaron> dunno what's wrong with DS, though
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  1448. # [10:44] <glandium> dbaron: what's wrong is that it's S\n
  1449. # [10:44] <@dbaron> yeah
  1450. # [10:44] <@dbaron> I was getting to that
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  1452. # [10:45] <@dbaron> you need all the words except for the first to have an odd number of letters
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  1454. # [10:45] <@dbaron> but the last counts
  1455. # [10:45] <@dbaron> anyway, g'niht
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  1457. # [10:45] <@dbaron> night
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  1463. # [10:51] <@khuey> roc: ping?
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  1465. # [10:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d6473daed318 - Jacek Caban - Bug 970429 - Don't allow using INITGUID in unified sources. r=Ehsan
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  1487. # [10:58] <bbouvier> who could review changes to different parts of the tree, for a patch only dealing with renaming?
  1488. # [10:58] <bbouvier> it
  1489. # [10:59] <bbouvier> *it's not worth asking several reviews as the overall patch is fairly small
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  1492. # [11:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58a6e689c472 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 953164 - IonMonkey: Improve type information at branches, r=jandem
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  1512. # [11:22] <NeilAway> bbouvier: depends on what you're renaming; generally ask the owner of the implementation
  1513. # [11:23] <bbouvier> NeilAway: it's related to mfbt parts, i should ask waldo then
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  1653. # [13:52] <Pike> sob, I wish http://hg.mozilla.org was reliably serving content
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  1658. # [14:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48191ef36ffc - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 960866 part.5 nsEditor shouldn't allow composition and text events created by chrome JS r=smaug
  1659. # [14:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/41d17ebf8454 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 960866 part.2 Remove nsEditor::mInIMEMode r=ehsan
  1660. # [14:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5159f90e44ef - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 960866 part.4 Remove nsEditor::mIMEBufferLength r=ehsan+smaug
  1661. # [14:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/184e8ed6ca48 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 960866 part.1 nsEditor should store a pointer of TextComposition while composition r=ehsan
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  1663. # [14:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29de65dfd9c7 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 960866 part.7 Use stack class for ensuring to call EditorWillHandleTextEvent() and EditorDidHandleTextEvent() r=smaug
  1664. # [14:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/984a2e65a52f - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 960866 part.3 Remove nsEditor::mIsIMEComposing r=ehsan+smaug
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  1685. # [14:18] <RyanVM> BenWa: ping!
  1686. # [14:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/74cbeb541d03 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 3868202e1747 (bug 883339) for suspected Windows PGO bustage.
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  1748. # [14:58] <Gijs> KaiRo: ping
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  1750. # [14:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46e8d31eb342 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
  1751. # [14:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/879038dcacb7 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset bb5701078d13 (bug 961238) for likely troboprovider bustage.
  1752. # [15:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/879038dcacb7 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset bb5701078d13 (bug 961238) for likely troboprovider bustage.
  1753. # [15:00] <KaiRo> Gijs: pong
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  1755. # [15:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b06fb886dcb - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 970070 - Update the last-dispatched-paint metrics when we get a scroll update from layout. r=botond
  1756. # [15:01] <jimm> RyanVM: hey, does that metro only approval exclusion also apply to beta?
  1757. # [15:02] <RyanVM> jimm: IIRC, metro patches need approval for beta
  1758. # [15:02] <RyanVM> it was only for aurora
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  1761. # [15:03] <jimm> ok, cool
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  1767. # [15:05] <RyanVM> jimm: i feel like I've seen this before - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=34523339&tree=Mozilla-B2g28-v1.3
  1768. # [15:06] <jimm> bug 968802
  1769. # [15:07] <jimm> different test though
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  1774. # [15:11] <RyanVM> jimm: thanks :)
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  1776. # [15:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/280aa953c868 - Marty Rosenberg - Bug 957504: Fix mis-refactoring, and add some asserts to let debug users know that float32 can be broken (r=sunfish)
  1777. # [15:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6245232c114d - Marty Rosenberg - Bug 965728: Disable analysis that causes compilation when the jits are disabled. (r=jandem)
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  1787. # [15:17] <pranavk> I am using emacs for mozilla-development. I have set c-basic-offset to 2. Though my emacs shows perfect indentation but when I generate patches or open it in some other editor, all of it messes out. Here is my patch : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=952927
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  1792. # [15:18] <pranavk> The comment 68 from schien here shows all the indentation problems listed. These problems are though not problems for my emacs.
  1793. # [15:19] <froydnj> I wish there was an "open new tab right next to the current one"
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  1894. # [16:06] <rankov> nfroyd: nbp: I have a few questions about MIPS registers in Spidermonkey port.
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  1897. # [16:06] <rankov> froydnj:
  1898. # [16:07] <froydnj> rankov: ok
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  1901. # [16:07] <rankov> froydnj: Would it be ok to leave the enum as it is until we can use both double and single registers?
  1902. # [16:08] <rankov> mjrosenb is wokring on this as I understand.
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  1907. # [16:09] <mjrosenb> rankov: what is this now?
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  1909. # [16:10] <rankov> mjrosenb: nbp said that you are making a way to use all the 32 bit fpu regs on ARM
  1910. # [16:10] <rankov> mjrosenb: This will be usefull for MIPS port also
  1911. # [16:10] <mjrosenb> yeah.
  1912. # [16:10] <mjrosenb> rankov: how are mips' float registers aliased?
  1913. # [16:10] <froydnj> rankov: "the enum" = "enum FPRegisterID" and "as it is" is with e.g. $f2 = 1 rather than $f2 = 2?
  1914. # [16:10] <nbp> mjrosenb: they are aliased the same way as ARM.
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  1916. # [16:11] <mjrosenb> oh, fun!
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  1919. # [16:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/39414059dcb1 - Benoit Girard - Bug 971154 - Implement APPLE_texture_range. r=jrmuizel
  1920. # [16:12] <rankov> mjrosenb: Currently i only use even regs. f0, f2, f4..
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  1922. # [16:13] <rankov> mjrosenb: The odd regs hold the high part of the 64bit value.
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  1925. # [16:14] <rankov> froydnj: I would restrict access to odd registers to Assembler and Macroassembler.
  1926. # [16:14] <mjrosenb> rankov: yeah, hopefully, I'll get those patches up for review next week.
  1927. # [16:15] <rankov> froydnj: I would make these methods protected, so that other classes can't call them.
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  1931. # [16:15] <rankov> froydnj: Would this be a good solution untill we have mjrosenb's patches?
  1932. # [16:16] <froydnj> rankov: that sounds fine, yes
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  1935. # [16:17] <rankov> froydnj: If I hardcode these instructions in assembler, I can also fix the InstImm/InstReg constructors.
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  1937. # [16:19] <rankov> mjrosenb: Can you give me the bug number so I can track these patches?
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  1941. # [16:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38fca44b6b86 - Marcin Juszkiewicz - Bug 963027 - AArch64 support for WebRTC. r=derf
  1942. # [16:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1dfcb9ac6c8 - Jan Beich - Bug 968819 - Make HOST_OS_ARCH on BSDs take same values as OS_ARCH. r=glandium
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  1944. # [16:20] <mjrosenb> rankov: tenatively, 957504
  1945. # [16:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8858624d813a - Ali Akhtarzada - Bug 959121 - Moz2Dify ImageClientSingle::UpdateImage. r=nical
  1946. # [16:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f6a0ccd3f36c - Ali Akhtarzada - Bug 959120 - Moz2Dify AutoLockImage contructor. r=nical
  1947. # [16:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c603a26dd2ad - Jim Chen - Bug 970358 - Disable BackgroundHangMonitor on release builds. r=froydnj
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  1950. # [16:21] <rankov> mjrosenb: Thanks.
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  1952. # [16:22] <tbsaunde> ugh more qa- spam :(
  1953. # [16:23] <froydnj> I installed a filter this morning =/
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  1956. # [16:24] <tbsaunde> yeah, I think I'm about to do that too
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  1958. # [16:24] <jhopkins> vlad: i noticed in one of the failing tests it gives expected vs. actual base64-encoded PNG data. The only difference I could discern between the two images was 'expected' was 45 pixels wide and 'actual' was 47 pixels wide.
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  1964. # [16:25] <jhopkins> vlad: for reference: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=34521954&tree=Date&full=1 https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4268125
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  1982. # [16:35] <lsblakk> GPHemsley: ping
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  1987. # [16:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8cb5df1f8bc8 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 965137 - Make session saving more reliable. r=mfinkle, a=sledru
  1988. # [16:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f4b5ae829393 - Kay Plößer - Bug 960046 - [OS.File] makeDir should not fail if the directory is a root. r=Yoric, a=sledru
  1989. # [16:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/02935dcaa786 - Glenn Randers-Pehrson - Bug 945912 - Fix palette length reporting bug. r=jmuizelaar, a=lsblakk
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  1992. # [16:40] <reuben> man, either gecko is built on references to temporaries or gcc is crazy
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  1995. # [16:41] <froydnj> gcc 4.4 complaining about T&& ?
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  1997. # [16:42] <reuben> froydnj: yeah, when building b2g
  1998. # [16:42] <froydnj> reuben: gcc 4.4 is crazy, yes
  1999. # [16:42] <armenzg> NOTICE: We have merged mozharness changes http://hg.mozilla.org/build/mozharness/graph
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  2001. # [16:44] <pranavk> when creating patches through hg for mozilla, the generated patches all have ts=4 and sw=4 leading to indentation problems in my patch. though when i open the corresponding files in vim with :set ts=2 sw=2 et cindent, the file becomes perfect, how can i generate patches with no indentation problems.
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  2016. # [16:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6cd04a76fa13 - Ehsan Akhgari - Follow-up to bug 957729: add the --slowscript option to MochitestOptions to unbreak running mochitests through make; irc-r=froydnj
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  2067. # [17:23] <lpy> nbp: Hi! for bug 970865, I am not really sure what I should do. Could you please give me more guide?
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  2071. # [17:24] <reuben> can I not use relative paths in MOZCONFIG anymore?
  2072. # [17:24] <reuben> this used to work not too long ago
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  2104. # [17:38] <Gijs> What's the equivalent to command="cmd_Foo" from JS?
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  2117. # [17:45] <ttaubert> you mean, execute the command?
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  2126. # [17:50] <Gijs> ttaubert: yes.
  2127. # [17:50] <Gijs> ttaubert: I've tried goDoCommand("cmd_Foo"), but that doesn't work.
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  2130. # [17:52] <ttaubert> Gijs: hm I thought it should
  2131. # [17:52] <ttaubert> Gijs: did you take a look at the function def in globalOverlay.js?
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  2135. # [17:53] <Gijs> ttaubert: I am now...
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  2138. # [17:54] <Gijs> ttaubert: no errors, so I wonder why it didn't work
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  2140. # [17:54] <Gijs> ttaubert: I went from command="cmd_CustomizeToolbars" to oncommand="goDoCommand('cmd_CustomizeToolbars')"
  2141. # [17:54] <ttaubert> Gijs: enabled?
  2142. # [17:54] <Gijs> the former worked, the latter doesn't.
  2143. # [17:54] <Gijs> should be.
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  2145. # [17:54] <ttaubert> hm
  2146. # [17:55] <Gijs> (the reason I need this is because for the former, no command event is fired, it seems :s )
  2147. # [17:55] <Gijs> (which is probably an issue in and of itself, but I don't have time to investigate that right now)
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  2162. # [17:59] <@gavin> IIRC goDoCommand does different kind of command stuff than command=""
  2163. # [17:59] <@gavin> but that stuff is confusing so I always forget
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  2168. # [18:02] <Gijs> gavin: the confusion and my forgetting are why I'm asking in here. :(
  2169. # [18:03] <Gijs> (but hey, at least I feel less dumb now that I'm not the only one)
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  2176. # [18:06] <nemo> bz: I'm getting an awesome fail in Firefox in our layout if I do (as an experiment prelude to hide/collapse)
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  2178. # [18:06] <nemo> x = document.getElementsByTagName("fieldset");
  2179. # [18:06] <nemo> for(var i=0;i<x.length;i++) { x[i].style.height = "5px"; x[i].style.overflow = "hidden"; }
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  2183. # [18:06] <nemo> where some of the stuff inside the fieldset is still visible below it
  2184. # [18:06] <nemo> but not all
  2185. # [18:07] <nemo> no issue in chrome
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  2189. # [18:07] <nemo> like. <fieldset><dl><dt>foo</dt><dd>bar</dd> where there's some floating and whatnot on the dt/dd is showing the first, but only the first, of a bunch of dt/dds
  2190. # [18:08] <nemo> bz: similarly a table in a fieldset is showing like the first few px of grey in the table header
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  2192. # [18:08] <nemo> is pretty wild
  2193. # [18:08] <nemo> in all cases, below the now shrunken fieldset
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  2196. # [18:09] <nemo> going to try to reduce it, but certainly fieldsets are kind of a nutty aspect of layout that I can imagine do unexpected things
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  2210. # [18:15] <nemo> wooooo reduced!
  2211. # [18:15] <nemo> \o/
  2212. # [18:15] <nemo> well. for table
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  2214. # [18:15] <nemo> the dl/dt/dd were stubbornly cooperative
  2215. # [18:15] <nemo> but table is enough I think
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  2219. # [18:16] <bholley> gps: ping
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  2221. # [18:17] <nemo> bz: http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase367.xhtml compare Firefox vs Chrome
  2222. # [18:17] <nemo> bz: the initial fieldset was display: inline-block, but dropped that and it still screwed up
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  2226. # [18:19] <nemo> Safari agrees with Chrome
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  2228. # [18:19] <nemo> need to modify the Js to test in IE9 which doesn't have classlist yet
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  2231. # [18:20] <nemo> heh. ok. IE's rendering is a bit odd, but no overflow probs
  2232. # [18:20] <nemo> bz: ok. everyone disagrees w/ Firefox on this :)
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  2235. # [18:23] <NeilAway> bholley: what's the parameter convention in xpconnect, (nsString *string) or (nsString* string)?
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  2237. # [18:24] <jcranmer> nsString * string, obviously
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  2239. # [18:24] <jcranmer> :-P
  2240. # [18:24] <bholley> NeilAway: XPConnect follows js-style, so stars should go on the right if possible, but default to consistency with nearby code
  2241. # [18:24] <nemo> yep. both versions of opera disagree too
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  2244. # [18:25] <NeilAway> bholley: I failed to find consistency, so...
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  2252. # [18:29] <nemo> bz: so waddaya think. Is Firefox right and eeeeeveryone else wrong? Here's how it looks on the site with the dls overflowing too http://m8y.org/images/temp.png
  2253. # [18:29] <bz> nemo: what?
  2254. # [18:30] <bz> nemo: what's the issue?
  2255. # [18:30] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase367.xhtml reduced testcase
  2256. # [18:30] <nemo> click the button
  2257. # [18:30] <nemo> compare result in any other browser
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  2260. # [18:30] <nemo> bz: the stuff below each bubbly collapsed area is internal contents of the block
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  2262. # [18:30] <bz> That's a reduced testcase?
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  2264. # [18:30] * bz has a hard time believing it
  2265. # [18:30] <nemo> hehe
  2266. # [18:30] <bz> how about an actual minimal testcase? ;)
  2267. # [18:31] <nemo> bz: I can strip more content if you like
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  2269. # [18:31] <nemo> no biggie
  2270. # [18:31] <nemo> one moment
  2271. # [18:31] <nemo> bz: refresh
  2272. # [18:31] <nemo> better?
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  2274. # [18:31] <bz> nemo: the table is needed?
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  2276. # [18:32] <bz> nemo: the two separate row groups are needed?
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  2278. # [18:32] <bz> nemo: The ul styles are needed?
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  2280. # [18:32] <nemo> bz: well. I'm only able to get the rendering screwup w/ table at present - on the actual page was happening w/ dl too
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  2283. # [18:32] <nemo> ul style not needed. dropped
  2284. # [18:32] <NeilAway> Gijs: the point of command= is to centralise the command processing for multiple UI elements. If you're subverting the UI, just forget they ever existed :-P
  2285. # [18:33] <nemo> bz: still, is pretty minimal now :-p
  2286. # [18:33] <Gijs> NeilAway: I want to do something just before the command event fires. Even a capturing system-level event listener isn't getting an event
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  2290. # [18:34] <NeilAway> Gijs: the command event doesn't fire on the element with command=
  2291. # [18:34] <bz> nemo: file a bug. ;)
  2292. # [18:34] <Gijs> NeilAway: are you effectively saying that if I have an element in 3 places and it needs to do the same everywhere, but 1 additional thing in only one place, I shouldn't be using commands?
  2293. # [18:34] <bz> nemo: also, is the dynamic change relevant?
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  2295. # [18:35] <NeilAway> Gijs: yes
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  2298. # [18:35] <Gijs> NeilAway: :(
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  2303. # [18:37] <bz> nemo: Anyway, please file
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  2306. # [18:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> hmm, who to CC to an Android gfx crash?
  2307. # [18:39] <NeilAway> Gijs: at least, not XUL command elements
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  2309. # [18:39] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: snorp :p
  2310. # [18:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> wfm
  2311. # [18:39] <snorp> kats what did I ever do to you
  2312. # [18:39] <kats> he's gonna hate me
  2313. # [18:39] <kats> lol
  2314. # [18:39] <kats> sorry
  2315. # [18:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> snorp: you like cairo too, right? :)
  2316. # [18:39] <snorp> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ....
  2317. # [18:40] <kats> snorp: i was really hoping random.org wouldn't pick you
  2318. # [18:40] <kats> but i had to be fair
  2319. # [18:40] <snorp> heh
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  2333. # [18:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gcp: heh
  2334. # [18:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gcp: well, I've never managed to confuse you 2 for gps :P
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  2336. # [18:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d59a1cce18e5 - Andy Wingo - Bug 962599 - Store let-bound variables in the fixed part of stack frames r=luke r=jandem
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  2338. # [18:46] <froydnj> gcp: RyanVM|sheriffduty deals with single colored letters all day, three letters is pretty complicated
  2339. # [18:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lulz
  2340. # [18:46] <nemo> bz: well. the JS was 'cause the initial page was doing JS. let's see if it happens w/ no JS
  2341. # [18:47] <nemo> yep. happens anyway
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  2343. # [18:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> kats: snorp: neener neener neener :P
  2344. # [18:47] <nemo> bz: and, well, reason I didn't just file is in past I've said BUG and you've been "ahem, that's actually in perfect accord w/ paragraph C subsection Q of the uniform code of w3 standards
  2345. # [18:47] <nemo> "
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  2347. # [18:47] <nemo> but aight. filing :-p
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  2349. # [18:48] <bz> nemo: there is no spec for fieldset
  2350. # [18:48] <bz> nemo: so.... ;)
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  2358. # [18:50] <vlad> jhopkins: good catch -- looks like a text rendering difference between the two
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  2360. # [18:51] <vlad> jhopkins: the version it got has busted kerning between the u and t
  2361. # [18:51] <jhopkins> aha!
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  2365. # [18:53] <nemo> bz: yeah, that was the fascinating thing
  2366. # [18:53] <nemo> bz: in the past before Firefox had inline-block, you could use an inline fieldset to do nicely centred contained blocks
  2367. # [18:53] <nemo> which should have been impossible
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  2370. # [18:53] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/fieldset_abuse.xhtml
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  2400. # [19:04] <ggp> how can I set NSPR_LOG_MODULES while running tests on try?
  2401. # [19:04] <NeilAway> bholley: whoops, I attached the wrong patch by mistake, sorry for any confusion :s
  2402. # [19:04] <bholley> NeilAway: np
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  2414. # [19:09] <jimm> ggp: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/HTTP_logging#Enable_Logging_for_try_server_runs
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  2418. # [19:10] <ggp> jimm: awesome, thanks!
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  2449. # [19:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f6dcba88c6ed - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 971834: Exclude dom/plugins from b2g desktop mochitests. r=ahal
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  2455. # [19:33] <@ted> ggp: if you want it for mochitests, there's a special thing that will upload them for you
  2456. # [19:34] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/runtests.py#59
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  2461. # [19:35] <ggp> ted: ah, great. I do need it for mochitests, so that seems to be exactly what I need. thanks
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  2474. # [19:40] <ggp> ted: just making sure: that's only supposed to work on debug builds right?
  2475. # [19:40] <ggp> no logging on opt builds
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  2487. # [19:45] <steve> hey guys. so stepping through this weird and wonderful 1GB source tree and I find a weirdness. no doubt there are more but this one is in nsToolkit::nsToolkit()
  2488. # [19:45] * julienw is now known as julienw_afk
  2489. # [19:45] <steve> f (XRE_GetWindowsEnvironment() == WindowsEnvironmentType_Desktop) {
  2490. # [19:45] <steve> mD3D9Timer = do_CreateInstance("@mozilla.org/timer;1");
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  2492. # [19:46] <steve> mD3D9Timer->InitWithFuncCallback(::StartAllowingD3D9,
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  2494. # [19:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f978835321f1 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset d59a1cce18e5 (bug 962599) for crashtest crashes.
  2495. # [19:46] <steve> this basically as far as I can see, tears down the layer manager and recreates it for some obscure reason I can't fathom.
  2496. # [19:47] <steve> whatever you're doing here, you only do whatever on win XP and below.
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  2498. # [19:47] <steve> on vista & above, never, ever use DX9 for anything. always go DX10 or ideally 11.
  2499. # [19:48] <steve> going to comment that out in my local patch but the main tree shouldn't be doing that either.
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  2504. # [19:50] <steve> second totally unrelated issue - there's a problem with hardware video rendering DX10/11, old nvidia drivers, windows where the colours come out wrong. nvidia have fixed it but not everyone updates their drivers so should probably patch that.
  2505. # [19:50] <steve> otherwise webdevs won't move to <video> because they can't get consistent behaviour
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  2508. # [19:51] <gcp> you should really file bugs
  2509. # [19:51] <gcp> unless the people who work on this magically happen to be in the channel and watching, you're like talking to a wall
  2510. # [19:51] <steve> yeah, I know
  2511. # [19:51] <jimm> steve: from what I remember about that timer, we don't turn on acceleration until a few seconds after startup
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  2514. # [19:52] <steve> gcp: see - magic :)
  2515. # [19:52] <@ted> ggp: depends on the module, some force NSPR logging on all the time
  2516. # [19:52] <mstange> jimm: I think what he's saying is that the layer manager teardown happens regardless of whether D3D9 is going to be used or not
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  2518. # [19:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc69628e2ad1 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 928808: Suppress clang warnings (in newer clang versions) about inline 'new' and 'delete'. r=glandium
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  2520. # [19:52] <steve> mstange: yup
  2521. # [19:52] <mstange> jimm: even though it should only be needed for d3d9 and not for d3d10/11
  2522. # [19:52] <steve> correct
  2523. # [19:53] <mstange> but I don't know whether that's actually the case - maybe it is necessary for d3d10/11, too
  2524. # [19:53] <ggp> ted: I see, thanks
  2525. # [19:53] <steve> d3d10/11 requires nothing whatsoever from d3d9 so that should never happen on vista+
  2526. # [19:53] <steve> it's a performance hit.
  2527. # [19:53] <mstange> steve: that's not the point
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  2529. # [19:54] <steve> and it overly complicates.
  2530. # [19:54] <mstange> steve: the point is to avoid a performance hit from initializing d3d during startup
  2531. # [19:54] <mstange> for all I know, d3d10/11 may have the same performance hit
  2532. # [19:55] <steve> creating the layer manager twice does not seem to have any benefit. just makes debugging harder & slows init down.
  2533. # [19:55] <jimm> looking at the original bug, seems like it
  2534. # [19:56] <jimm> bug 595277
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  2538. # [19:56] <jimm> why wouldn't we expect the same perf hit?
  2539. # [19:56] <steve> platform : x86 Windows XP . not platform windows. so if you must do that, do it xp only.
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  2545. # [19:59] <dholbert> Our "Hf" perma-red on inbound are because gcc does not exist. [filing; let me know if anyone's already dug in]
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  2548. # [19:59] <mstange> steve: don't read too much into the platform fields of a bug; they're usually initialized with the reporter's platform and mostly ignored
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  2551. # [20:00] <steve> sure but in this case it's right - DX9 is only used in XP and under.
  2552. # [20:01] <steve> it's available above XP but you never use it as later interfaces are superior.
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  2557. # [20:03] <dholbert> I don't know much about Hf, but given that it's a visible box on TBPL, it being perma-red due to an infra problem probably means we should close the tree
  2558. # [20:03] <dholbert> (filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=971871 for the red, BTW)
  2559. # [20:03] <steve> so we can achieve a performance win there in everything above XP. can't be bothered figuring out whether xp actually needs it as it's legacy.
  2560. # [20:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dholbert: we know
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  2562. # [20:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dholbert: mozharness test patch running on Cypress rigth now
  2563. # [20:04] <dholbert> RyanVM|sheriffduty, ah, cool
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  2567. # [20:04] <jimm> steve: feel free to put together a patch, we can push it at try for some talos runs to see what kind of startup hit we take
  2568. # [20:04] <steve> so will attach a comment to this effect to bug 595277 unless objections.
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  2572. # [20:04] <steve> doesn't matter what the hit is. not even about performance. about removing unnecessary complexity.
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  2574. # [20:05] <jimm> if it impacts initial window display/paint, it matters :)
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  2581. # [20:06] <steve> it won't above xp as above xp doesn't need D3D9 for anything. don't have time to patch main tree at the moment as super busy but wanted to let you know.
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  2583. # [20:06] <jmaher> jimm: steve: let me know if you have issues with talos|try|the results
  2584. # [20:06] <steve> had a wtf moment & thought I'd share :)
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  2588. # [20:07] <gps> bholley: pong
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  2590. # [20:07] <bholley> gps: hi. got a sec?
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  2595. # [20:07] <gps> nalexander: you should be able to push commits to ssh://hg@hg.gregoryszorc.com/gecko-collab now
  2596. # [20:07] <steve> will patch here & test to ensure no side effects of the change. then file in 595277 when I get time.
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  2599. # [20:07] <gps> bholley: yes
  2600. # [20:08] <bholley> gps: so, I'm trying to introduce a test-only JS-Implemented WebIDL component
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  2603. # [20:08] <bholley> gps: works locally, but borks on try. I'm guessing I'm doing something wrong in the build config
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  2605. # [20:08] <bholley> gps: can you give this a lookover for something obvious? https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/e44c016f082d
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  2607. # [20:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dholbert: btw, sfink is the person you should be CCing to Hf bugs
  2608. # [20:09] <bholley> gps: I'm no expert here, so I may be doing something wrong. The main issue is that all the pre-existing WebIDL test interfaces are just to verify that stuff compiles, and doesn't seem to get exposed to the browser, even in test configurations
  2609. # [20:09] <dholbert> RyanVM|sheriffduty, OK. (even infra "C compiler cannot create executables" bugs?)
  2610. # [20:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yes
  2611. # [20:09] <dholbert> k
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  2613. # [20:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it was his patches that broke it
  2614. # [20:09] <gps> bholley: I don't see anything obvious
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  2617. # [20:10] <bholley> gps: Ok. is there an easy way for me to reproduce the environment on try? I'm assuming I need to bundle stuff
  2618. # [20:10] <sfink> dholbert: yes, I've moved up in the world. No longer am I satisfied to break application code! Now I must break infrastructure too!
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  2620. # [20:10] <dholbert> sfink, impressive!
  2621. # [20:11] <gps> bholley: the chroot environments for linux are published at https://s3.amazonaws.com/mozilla-releng-mock-archive/mock_archives.json
  2622. # [20:11] <gps> bholley: you can chroot into those are set up a Docker container with the contents if you want to be bleeding edge
  2623. # [20:11] <bholley> gps: I'm guessing this is lower-hanging fruit - isn't there some stuff to package the tests and whatnot?
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  2625. # [20:12] <gps> bholley: point me to a log of an actual failure
  2626. # [20:12] <bholley> gps: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=590b4f0d0bff
  2627. # [20:12] <bholley> gps: ignore the failures for (2)
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  2629. # [20:12] <bholley> gps: just a bad skip-if
  2630. # [20:12] <bholley> gps: but (4) is the test that I'm adding
  2631. # [20:13] <bholley> gps: (for context, I'm landing some tests + infrastructure for a bug that isn't fixed yet, because I want to use the same test component for another bug)
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  2634. # [20:13] <bholley> gps: so bug 923904 is where the test infrastructure comes from, and bug 968335 are the actual tests that I expect to pass (and that pass locally)
  2635. # [20:13] <gps> bholley: this seems like a packaging failure. if it runs fine locally but fails in automation, packaging is usually the cause
  2636. # [20:13] <bholley> gps: that was my guess
  2637. # [20:15] <gps> bholley: I /think/ you updated all the necessary packaging bits
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  2643. # [20:16] <bholley> gps: is there a way to do the packaging locally?
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  2646. # [20:17] <gps> bholley: mach package
  2647. # [20:17] <lsblakk> briansmith: can i take comment 3 in bug 968256 to mean this is no longer something worth trackin for FF27?
  2648. # [20:18] <bholley> gps: ok. Then what?
  2649. # [20:18] <gps> bholley: poke around in the package and ensure all your files are there
  2650. # [20:19] <briansmith> lsblakk: I agree. I will comment in the bug.
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  2652. # [20:19] <bholley> gps: the DMG? Or does it live somewhere else?
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  2664. # [20:22] <lsblakk> briansmith: ty
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  2670. # [20:27] <bholley> gps: ok, so it doesn't appear in omni.ja
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  2676. # [20:28] <gps> bholley: what doesn't appear?
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  2679. # [20:28] <bholley> gps: TestInterfaceJS.js
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  2681. # [20:29] <bholley> gps: though from the output of mach package, it appears to be being run through precompile_cache.js
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  2684. # [20:30] <bholley> gps: though it appears in dist/NightlyDebug.app/Contents/MacOS/components
  2685. # [20:30] <bholley> gps: so something is going wrong in packagin
  2686. # [20:30] <bholley> *packaging
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  2688. # [20:31] <@ted> it's not in the package manifest? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/installer/package-manifest.in#354
  2689. # [20:31] <@ted> how long you been here, man?
  2690. # [20:31] <bholley> ted: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/e44c016f082d#l2.2
  2691. # [20:31] <bholley> ted: does that look right to you?
  2692. # [20:32] <gps> bholley: oh, you need the .js file in the package manifest - you only have the .manifest
  2693. # [20:32] <bholley> gps: ah
  2694. # [20:32] <bholley> got it. thanks
  2695. # [20:32] <gps> one of these days we'll have a better solution for packaging manifests. they arguably don't need to exist (for some things) with more stuff being in moz.build files
  2696. # [20:33] <gps> improvements like this don't result in speed wins, so it's difficult to justify working on them
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  2698. # [20:33] <@ted> yeah
  2699. # [20:33] <@ted> think of all the lost developer time though
  2700. # [20:34] <@ted> i would love to ditch the packaging manifest
  2701. # [20:34] <@ted> we'd just need to make sure we're not putting test-only crap in dist/bin
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  2704. # [20:35] <gps> crap, how did my review queue grow to 20 again
  2705. # [20:35] <gps> 15 patches in the last 24h. ugh
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  2707. # [20:35] <@ted> shit happens
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  2710. # [20:37] <gaston> Yoric: is there an os.file NSPR_LOG_MODULES ?
  2711. # [20:37] <benvie> can anyone give me a hint as to why using EventUtils.synthesizeMouse in one browser mochitest would cause later tests to fail?
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  2714. # [20:37] <gaston> Yoric: i have some reports of the download manager showing 'failed' for jobs while they are downloading (ie no progressbar) until completed..
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  2719. # [20:38] <Gijs> benvie: depends on what the synthesizeMouse does...
  2720. # [20:39] <Gijs> benvie: if it's doing something which (eventually) opens a window/panel and messes up focus, that could explain it
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  2723. # [20:39] <benvie> Gijs: hmm, it clicks on a xul textbox that is already focused
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  2725. # [20:40] <benvie> maybe that causes a different window to be focused
  2726. # [20:40] <gaston> Yoric: 'maybe' related, but at the end of a download when theres no progressbar, console/stderr shows "NOTE: child process received `Goodbye', closing down"
  2727. # [20:40] <Gijs> benvie: are you sure it's already focused? :)
  2728. # [20:40] <dmajor> mccr8: can you point me to one of the crash reports with a bogus stack?
  2729. # [20:40] <mccr8> dmajor: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/16a6f9dc-1208-400c-9ab6-bb51e2140211
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  2731. # [20:40] <benvie> Gijs: probably not sure =D
  2732. # [20:40] <mccr8> sorry, I should have added one
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  2739. # [20:44] <bjacob> bsmedberg: ping for a question about ipc
  2740. # [20:44] <@bsmedberg> bjacob: pong
  2741. # [20:44] <Gijs> benvie: any particular reason not to just call textbox.focus() ?
  2742. # [20:44] <dmajor> mccr8: it may be bad symbols or stack walking; I don't see CC_AbortIfNull in this at all
  2743. # [20:45] <mccr8> dmajor: yeah, the line number thing that crash stats shows points to something else entirely...
  2744. # [20:45] <mccr8> dmajor: thanks for taking a look.
  2745. # [20:45] <Gijs> benvie: oh, wait, is this a test for the js debugger watch selection thing I was complaining about in #devtools the other day? :)
  2746. # [20:45] <benvie> Gijs: the test is specifically about ensuring the behavior on click
  2747. # [20:45] <benvie> Gijs: exactly
  2748. # [20:45] <Gijs> ah
  2749. # [20:45] <Gijs> interesting. :)
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  2751. # [20:45] <Gijs> benvie: I recently found out that at least button.click() just works
  2752. # [20:45] <benvie> trying to figure out an alternative to synthesizeMouse here but none of them do exactly what's needed
  2753. # [20:45] <bjacob> bsmedberg: we have a type that can be serialized/deserialized over IPC, but should only ever be used for same-process IPC (don't even ask). I want to check that we are doing same-process IPC in IPC::ParamTraits<ThatType>::Read(), as I don't trust the client process calling Write(). How can I check that there?
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  2755. # [20:45] <Gijs> dunno if that will do in the case of your textbox...
  2756. # [20:45] <benvie> I tried that but it doesn't seem to work
  2757. # [20:46] <Gijs> hrm, interesting.
  2758. # [20:46] <benvie> part of the issue is that the event in question is listening for mousedown
  2759. # [20:46] <Gijs> oh!
  2760. # [20:46] <Gijs> hum
  2761. # [20:46] <benvie> but sending mousedown and mouseup alone is not enough to actually do anything
  2762. # [20:46] <@bsmedberg> bjacob: I don't think the traits information has that data
  2763. # [20:46] <Gijs> benvie: I'm fairly sure you should then synthesize something else and/or do it yourself :(
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  2765. # [20:46] <bjacob> bsmedberg: what would be the nearest place that has it?
  2766. # [20:46] <Gijs> benvie: have you looked at the internals of synthesizeMouse yet?
  2767. # [20:46] <@bsmedberg> bjacob: you could do something really crazy like encode the process PID in the serialized version and check it on deserialize
  2768. # [20:47] <@bsmedberg> (debug-only, of course)
  2769. # [20:47] <Gijs> and/or messed with the coordinates within the elements at which you're creating the event?
  2770. # [20:47] <benvie> Gijs: yeah I've been trying to figure out what it does that is special
  2771. # [20:47] <bjacob> bsmedberg: no, because i don't trust the client process, and this is security sensitive
  2772. # [20:47] <benvie> I have not tried that
  2773. # [20:47] * Gijs is not an expert
  2774. # [20:47] <Gijs> I think by default it tries to determine the center of the element
  2775. # [20:47] <benvie> the interesting thing is that the test itself works
  2776. # [20:47] <Gijs> benvie: I need to be off soon, but if ttaubert is still around perhaps he can tell you more.
  2777. # [20:48] <Gijs> oh.
  2778. # [20:48] <Gijs> ah.
  2779. # [20:48] <Gijs> hmm. I forgot about that part.
  2780. # [20:48] <benvie> and most tests work in fact
  2781. # [20:48] <Gijs> which test is failing?
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  2783. # [20:48] <Gijs> (got a try run?)
  2784. # [20:48] <benvie> Gijs: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=b7c9c40905b7
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  2788. # [20:49] <@bsmedberg> bjacob: IPDL actors in general don't know what link type they are using... I believe you have to walk back to the parent actor and interrogate its Channel somehow
  2789. # [20:49] <benvie> I can reproduce it by running by running just my new test and browser_dbg_variables-view-frame-parameters-02.js
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  2792. # [20:50] <benvie> Gijs: thanks for your time! I'll ask him if I can't figure it out
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  2797. # [20:50] <Gijs> benvie: what I find interesting that the failures are different on each OS.
  2798. # [20:50] <Gijs> similar, but different
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  2800. # [20:51] <benvie> Gijs: yep it's weird. Fewer of them failed locally for me, but that one still did
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  2803. # [20:52] <Gijs> benvie: I'd use the debugger on the second test, I guess, and see if that helps figuring it out (can we do chrome debugging on the content debugger?)
  2804. # [20:52] <benvie> yeah we can
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  2844. # [21:08] <bjacob> bsmedberg: one thing i could do is maintain an array of such objects, as a global variable, so each process would have such an array. Write would append to it, Read would verify presence in the array and remove from it.
  2845. # [21:08] <bjacob> bsmedberg: the other thing i could try to do is convince people that these objects are a bad idea ;-)
  2846. # [21:09] <@bsmedberg> bjacob: long-term they *sound* like a bad idea
  2847. # [21:09] <@bsmedberg> bjacob: maybe you really want an empty actor type to represent this?
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  2849. # [21:10] <bjacob> bsmedberg: the problem is there is some code polymorphism there, that wants a shmem in some cases, and a same-process memory buffer in other. So there actually is real data passed in these objects --- a void* pointer.
  2850. # [21:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c80de8d196af - Andy Wingo - Bug 962599 - Store let-bound variables in the fixed part of stack frames r=luke r=jandem
  2851. # [21:11] <@bsmedberg> bjacob: hrm, an actor would still probably work for that
  2852. # [21:11] <@bsmedberg> bjacob: it might be a bit heavyweight
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  2854. # [21:11] <bjacob> bsmedberg: oh, an actor type. i get it now. yes, that would work, I should do that. thanks!
  2855. # [21:11] <bjacob> bsmedberg: not as heavyweight as my array ida
  2856. # [21:11] <bjacob> idea
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  2861. # [21:13] <bjacob> bsmedberg: so, i have to declare an empty protocol for that, right?
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  2865. # [21:13] <@bsmedberg> yes, I think so
  2866. # [21:14] * @bsmedberg is trying to think how the protocol actually gets the void* to the other thread safely
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  2872. # [21:20] <gfritzsche> hm, someone is removing a few arbitrary fields on bmo: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=user_activity.html&action=run&from=-14d&who=party-freak%40live.com
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  2879. # [21:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3abe5c6f633c - Benoit Girard - Bug 971875 - Fix regression to HWC on b2g. r=sotaro
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  2881. # [21:25] <RyanVM> oh boy, "in-browser ads" have hit yahoo news now
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  2883. # [21:26] <gaston> wasnt it expected to make lots of bad PR anyway ?
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  2885. # [21:27] <RyanVM> well, it's certainly getting a lot of attention
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  2887. # [21:28] <qDot> Next week's monday meeting should be "fun".
  2888. # [21:28] <dholbert> johnath++ for excellent response about that on dev.planning
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  2890. # [21:29] <RyanVM> qDot: tomorrow's town hall you mean? :)
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  2892. # [21:30] <qDot> RyanVM: No, I mean next week's Monday Meeting, where those of us not paying attention will reask all of the questions that were already asked at the town hall. :|
  2893. # [21:30] <RyanVM> heh
  2894. # [21:30] <bjacob> bsmedberg: i was hoping that from a parent actor, i would be able to get to the information of whether the link is same-process, but now i dont know how
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  2897. # [21:31] <@bsmedberg> bjacob: you can actually by calling OtherProcess() on it
  2898. # [21:31] <@bsmedberg> if OtherProcess() is null then it's a thread link
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  2900. # [21:31] <bjacob> bsmedberg: great, thanks!
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  2915. # [21:38] <Gijs> gfritzsche: huh, people without editbugs can do that? :|
  2916. # [21:38] <Gijs> glob|away: ^^
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  2930. # [21:42] <gkw> glandium: pong but i've tested your patch if that's what you're asking ;-)
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  2937. # [21:44] <gfritzsche> Gijs: Hm, i've got no idea myself :/
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  2958. # [21:54] <johnath> dholbert: hey thanks!
  2959. # [21:55] <dougt> gps, ted: if a js component is exported from a moz.build via EXTRA_COMPONENTS does it end up in the windows installer?
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  2964. # [21:57] <gps> dougt: you'll need to add EXTRA_COMPONENTS entries to package-manifest.in files
  2965. # [21:57] <gps> for now
  2966. # [21:57] <dougt> do you have to do this for linux/mac?
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  2968. # [21:57] <mrbkap> dougt: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/find?string=package-manifest.in&tree=mozilla-central&;hint=
  2969. # [21:58] <dougt> mrbkap: thanks
  2970. # [21:58] <dougt> gps: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/nightly/latest-trunk/mozilla-i586-pc-msvc.zip
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  2972. # [21:58] <dougt> is that basically what is packaged?
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  2978. # [21:59] <gps> dougt: uh, I don't know what that zip file is
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  2980. # [21:59] <philor> though I guess since we no longer have a visible toolbar, "The personal toolbar is the personal toolbar, not the whorebar." doesn't really apply
  2981. # [22:00] <gps> ted: ^
  2982. # [22:00] <dougt> gps: basically what I am asking about is that geolocation is busted on windows.
  2983. # [22:00] <dougt> gps: and I am wondering if the NetworkGeolocationProvider* files were part of the build or not
  2984. # [22:00] <gps> dougt: did the tests in automation pass?
  2985. # [22:00] <gps> b/c automation tests use packaged binaries
  2986. # [22:00] <dougt> it's broken on beta, and aurora, and nightly.
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  2988. # [22:01] <gps> how did you manage to break it on beta?
  2989. # [22:01] <dougt> and there are no tests for this :( :( because our intra doesn't have wifi access
  2990. # [22:01] <dougt> no one tested it.
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  2992. # [22:01] <dougt> QA just didn't run any tests against it.
  2993. # [22:01] <gps> panda is very sad
  2994. # [22:01] <dougt> srsly
  2995. # [22:01] <dougt> very upsetting.
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  2997. # [22:02] <dougt> i'm making a windows build (just installed 8.1 and WTF)
  2998. # [22:02] <gps> so, download a Windows build, open up omni.ja via unzipping and look for missing files
  2999. # [22:02] <gcp> geez, I was wondering why google maps doesn't work properly
  3000. # [22:02] <gcp> this sure as hell explains it
  3001. # [22:02] <dougt> gcp: you on windows?
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  3004. # [22:02] <bwc> Ok, this may be a stupid question, but is there any simple way to get a string representation of an nsresult? I'd be totally satisfied with something like NS_ERROR_FOO -> "NS_ERROR_FOO", but I'm not seeing something like that.
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  3012. # [22:04] <gcp> dougt: I don't get any geolocation prompts on WIndows, no
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  3014. # [22:04] <dougt> bug 970112
  3015. # [22:05] <gcp> dougt: no alert
  3016. # [22:05] <gcp> dougt: windows nightly
  3017. # [22:05] <dougt> i would bet that in the browser console you will see some sort of file.jsm error
  3018. # [22:05] <dougt> correct?
  3019. # [22:05] <dougt> gcp ^
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  3023. # [22:06] <gcp> dougt: nope, nothing
  3024. # [22:07] <dougt> hmm. did you clear it before you tried geo?
  3025. # [22:07] <gcp> yes
  3026. # [22:07] <dougt> it might show up very early. not sure
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  3028. # [22:07] <dougt> can you exit and try again?
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  3030. # [22:07] <gcp> ok
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  3032. # [22:07] <rbarnes> question about Promise?
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  3034. # [22:09] <gcp> dougt: no, I guess I'd need to start ff from console to see it then
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  3037. # [22:09] <@smaug> rbarnes: better to just ask
  3038. # [22:09] <@smaug> someone may answer
  3039. # [22:09] <rbarnes> ok
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  3042. # [22:10] * @smaug knows next to nothing about Promises, except that they are hip and cool, and that is the reason for the current overuse of them
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  3046. # [22:11] <rbarnes> so i'm trying to use a promise with Resolve called from C++. i've given it a callback via then(), but it never gets called
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  3053. # [22:12] <rbarnes> i at least have an excuse for wanting Promises https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcrypto-keydiscovery/raw-file/tip/Overview.html https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865789
  3054. # [22:12] <rbarnes> :)
  3055. # [22:12] <tbsaunde> froydnj: how much would it suprise you if the same address showed up multiple times in the output of readelf -s?
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  3061. # [22:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1255b096d6d8 - Chris Pearce - Bug 971229 - Ensure test_videocontrols starts (and doesn't time out) if it loads real quick. r=jaws
  3062. # [22:15] <@smaug> rbarnes: hmm, can't find any examples in m-c
  3063. # [22:15] <@smaug> but there are some patches waiting for review...
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  3065. # [22:15] <froydnj> tbsaunde: depends on the address, how many times, and what sort of thing
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  3067. # [22:15] <froydnj> tbsaunde: but probably not very much
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  3070. # [22:16] <@smaug> rbarnes: https://bug957086.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8374011 at least uses Promises from C++
  3071. # [22:17] <@smaug> rbarnes: oh, this one is in m-c http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/src/notification/Notification.cpp#92
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  3080. # [22:18] <rbarnes> smaug: hm, that uses Promise::MaybeResolve() instead of Promise::Resolve(), let's see if that works...
  3081. # [22:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb287ffec375 - Neil Rashbrook - Bug 966911 Part 1: Improve DOMString and AString conversion code paths r=bholley
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  3089. # [22:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f14720c7f56b - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset c80de8d196af (bug 962599) for crashtest failures
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  3092. # [22:23] <rbarnes> smaug: well, what do you know, that works. apparently, from JS, use resolve(), from C++, use MaybeResolve()
  3093. # [22:23] <rbarnes> i like how C++ introduces uncertainty
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  3097. # [22:23] <@smaug> rbarnes: that Promise.h certainly would need some explanation
  3098. # [22:24] <@smaug> rbarnes: want to file a bug? CC nsm and baku perhaps
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  3100. # [22:24] <rbarnes> smaug: i will check Promise.h and see if it looks clear, and file a bug if not
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  3102. # [22:24] <bz> rbarnes: well, resolve() is specced to do a no-op if you've called it before
  3103. # [22:25] <bz> rbarnes: hence the "maybe" in the C++: it's a no-op if you're already resolved or rejected
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  3106. # [22:25] <bz> rbarnes: be glad that for now promises at least _have_ a C++ API. :(
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  3111. # [22:26] <tbsaunde> froydnj: ok, seems reasonable
  3112. # [22:27] <@smaug> bz: we still need some documentation on C++ side
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  3136. # [22:34] <yeukhon> wow that's a lot of job pending on try? :) 1462 / 463
  3137. # [22:35] <ttaubert> there 5000+ last week
  3138. # [22:35] <ttaubert> *there were
  3139. # [22:35] <yeukhon> >__<
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  3141. # [22:36] <yeukhon> well i supposed that was because of cut off
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  3151. # [22:38] <bz> * Call to xpconnect wrapped JSObject produced this error: *
  3152. # [22:38] <bz> [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIIdleService.removeIdleObserver]" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: file:///Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/inbound/obj-firefox-opt/dist/Nightly.app/Contents/MacOS/browser/components/nsBrowserGlue.js :: BG__dispose :: line 397" data: no]
  3153. # [22:39] <bz> What is this and why is it spamming my console? :(
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  3159. # [22:41] <ttaubert> bz: is that gone with bug 967839 backed out?
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  3174. # [22:48] <tbsaunde> froydnj: turns out you get a whole bunch of .LCX at the same address the data for one libxul is people.mozilla.org/~tsaunders/libxul-symbol-count.txt
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  3178. # [22:49] <tbsaunde> froydnj: sorry I didn't mention it was big :/
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  3180. # [22:50] <froydnj> ah, yeah, multiple .LC$N entries make sense
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  3183. # [22:51] <tbsaunde> its kind of interesting the same.LC$NN can have multiple addresses
  3184. # [22:52] <smontagu> curious, I can view bugs, and I can view attachments to bugs, but "Add an attachment" doesn't do anything
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  3188. # [22:52] <smontagu> other than write "Connecting..." in the tab title
  3189. # [22:53] <froydnj> I bet if you look those are string values
  3190. # [22:54] <lsblakk> GPHemsley: ping
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  3210. # [23:00] <bz> froydnj: Like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhlQfXUk7w eh?
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  3214. # [23:01] <froydnj> bz: yes, exactly like that
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  3242. # [23:11] <NeilAway> bwc: from C++ there's nsXPCException::NameAndFormatForNSResult which works for all of the nsresults in http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/js/xpconnect/src/xpc.msg
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  3246. # [23:13] <bwc> NeilAway: Well, that's loads better than what I have now! Thanks!
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  3258. # [23:21] <@bz> uh
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  3260. # [23:21] <@bz> We log CSS errors to the adroid ADB log?
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  3263. # [23:22] <sicking> bz: i think all error-console messages end up there, no?
  3264. # [23:22] <sicking> i bet lack of charset ends up there too
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  3267. # [23:23] <@bz> sicking: ok, then we should make it not use a suck API
  3268. # [23:23] <@bz> sicking: because what we're doing now is dumb
  3269. # [23:23] <sicking> bz: ?
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  3271. # [23:23] <@bz> sicking: so we have an nsIConsoleMessage coming in
  3272. # [23:24] <@bz> sicking: we do:
  3273. # [23:24] <@bz> 197 nsXPIDLString msg;
  3274. # [23:24] <@bz> 198 message->GetMessageMoz(getter_Copies(msg));
  3275. # [23:24] <@bz> 199 __android_log_print(ANDROID_LOG_ERROR, "GeckoConsole",
  3276. # [23:24] <@bz> 200 "%s",
  3277. # [23:24] <@bz> 201 NS_LossyConvertUTF16toASCII(msg).get());
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  3279. # [23:24] <@bz> sicking: note that GetMessageMoz internally does a UTF8ToNewUnicode()
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  3283. # [23:25] <@bz> sicking: so we create a UTF-8 string.
  3284. # [23:25] <@bz> sicking: then convert it to UTF-16 (with a malloc thrown in)
  3285. # [23:25] <@bz> sicking: then drop the high bytes and log it
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  3287. # [23:25] <sicking> wonderful
  3288. # [23:25] <@bz> sicking: And we make sure we only do this in ifdefs on slow hardware. ;)
  3289. # [23:26] <@bz> sicking: So my initial desire is to remove this code, but if not I'll file a bug to reduce the suck
  3290. # [23:26] <sicking> :)
  3291. # [23:26] <@bz> sicking: e.g., do we need this in non-debug builds?
  3292. # [23:26] <sicking> bz: adding a utf8 enabled message getter seems useful
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  3295. # [23:27] <sicking> bz: it needs to at least be enablable on end-user devices
  3296. # [23:27] <@bz> sicking: we have one, fwiw
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  3298. # [23:27] <sicking> bz: one what?
  3299. # [23:27] <@bz> sicking: a way to get the same string as UTF-8.
  3300. # [23:27] <@bz> sicking: so that's not a problem
  3301. # [23:27] <sicking> bz: wonderful :)
  3302. # [23:28] <bwc> NeilAway: Hmm, that seems to be private to xpconnect.
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  3304. # [23:28] <@bz> sicking: So the issue is we're doing an __android_log_print for every -moz-prefixed CSS property we've dropped support for
  3305. # [23:28] <@bz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=971985#c5
  3306. # [23:28] <@bz> fwiw
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  3314. # [23:29] <fabrice> bz: we have a setting to disable console output
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  3316. # [23:30] <fabrice> it should be disabled by default in production builds
  3317. # [23:30] <@bz> fabrice: For CSS parse errors in particular?
  3318. # [23:30] <sicking> fabrice: can we tie this to developer mode?
  3319. # [23:30] * @bz vaguely recalls something like that now
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  3324. # [23:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/68c4bbd03ee6 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 971683 - Remove tools/l10n; r=bsmedberg
  3325. # [23:31] <fabrice> bz: we just have a global "console enabled/disable" toggle
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  3327. # [23:31] <fabrice> sicking: there's no dev mode, but a bunch of settings (too many these days)
  3328. # [23:31] <padenot> b/b 43
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  3330. # [23:32] <@bz> fabrice: consoleservice.enabled ?
  3331. # [23:33] <fabrice> bz: consoleservice.enabled and layout.css.report_errors are tied to the same setting
  3332. # [23:33] <fabrice> so I think we're good in prod builds
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  3336. # [23:35] <@bz> fabrice: Good, good
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  3343. # [23:39] <@bz> Is "[mentor=bz][lang=c++]" the right way to flag a mentored bug?
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  3346. # [23:39] <ttaubert> yo, may want to add [good first bug] if it is one
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  3350. # [23:40] <@bsmedberg> bz: prefer [mentor=bz@mit.edu] or whatever your bugmail is
  3351. # [23:41] <@bsmedberg> ttaubert: I wouldn't expect bz to ever be mentoring [good first bug] honestly
  3352. # [23:41] <mccr8> [good last bug]
  3353. # [23:41] <ttaubert> haha
  3354. # [23:41] <@bsmedberg> good first bug is fixing a spelling mistake or adding a null-check
  3355. # [23:41] <shu> lol
  3356. # [23:41] <@bsmedberg> basically "learn how to pull, build, write a patch"
  3357. # [23:41] <ttaubert> bsmedberg: I didn't give it that much thought, but yeah :)
  3358. # [23:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/51260f68e21f - Jeff Walden - Bug 969165 - Convert Atomic<T> where T != bool but is used as a bool over to Atomic<bool>, now that it's supported, in security/manager/. r=bsmith
  3359. # [23:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/06a9e307dcc1 - Jeff Walden - Bug 969165 - Convert Atomic<T> where T != bool but is used as a bool over to Atomic<bool>, now that it's supported, in widget/. r=vlad
  3360. # [23:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2d3aca06e00 - Jeff Walden - Bug 961494 - Adjust an assertion to properly handle objects with built-in properties stored in reserved slots, where the last property of such an object may use a reserved
  3361. # [23:42] <firebot> slot that's not the last reserved slot. r=jorendorff, f=bhackett
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  3363. # [23:43] <@bz> This is in fact a good first bug
  3364. # [23:43] <@bz> since it's a trivial change
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  3377. # [23:51] <rnewman> I started using [good second bug] :P
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  3399. # [23:59] <@bz> No matter how bad you think the multiple global situation is, it's worse
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  3401. # [23:59] <AutomatedTester> silly question of the day: Does window.frames return the window object in a specific order?
  3402. # [23:59] <AutomatedTester> e.g. if I have 2 frames are they always going to be in a specific order and how is the order determined
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