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  6. # [00:00] <tomer> What happened with the product-details feed for Firefox? Why I'm seeing that it reverted to the previous Firefox versions?
  7. # [00:01] <tomer> (aurora/beta only)
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  10. # [00:01] <tomer> http://mozilla.org.il/wiki/index.php?title=%D7%AA%D7%91%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%AA:Latest-firefox-beta-release&curid=2284&diff=7445&oldid=7443
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  16. # [00:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37b53e9bf06f - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 970775 - Fix error gen'd by CopyTex(Sub)Image2D for incomplete FBs. - r=bjacob
  17. # [00:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e8a7d2c8607c - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 970775 - Add more asserts to WebGLFramebuffer. - r=bjacob
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  20. # [00:06] <tomer> Oh crap. The download links are broken as well. http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/?q=Hebrew,%20%D7%A2%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%AA
  21. # [00:06] <nthomas> http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/libs/product-details/firefoxDetails.class.php?revision=HEAD&view=markup seems fine
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  25. # [00:06] <nthomas> ah, that's my fault. one sec
  26. # [00:07] <glandium> khuey|away: "I have an email filter set up to automatically delete all bugmail from a certain eastern European QA contractor" you made my day
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  37. # [00:10] <tomer> nthomas: The json feeds doesn't seems to be up-to-date at the moment.
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  48. # [00:12] <luke> philor: do you know the minimal try push options to trigger an SM(Hf) build?
  49. # [00:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/95c7723f382f - Mike Hommey - Bug 967556 - Divert AC_CHECK_FUNC so that the #includes it uses can't interfere with the function it tests. r=gps
  50. # [00:13] <KWierso|sheriffduty> luke: trychooser suggests try: -b o -p linux64-br-haz -u none -t none
  51. # [00:14] <luke> KWierso|sheriffduty: ooh, thanks
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  62. # [00:17] <nthomas> tomer: links should be working now
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  64. # [00:17] <nthomas> tomer: don't know anything about the json feed
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  68. # [00:19] <tomer> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=972571
  69. # [00:19] <tomer> nthomas: Thanks.
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  75. # [00:24] <tomer> Seems that the problem now disappear. I see that in addition to reverting the aurora and beta back to the latest known versions, know we have 27.0.1 release…
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  82. # [00:25] <mt> Does fennec actually have a hidden DOM window? I'm getting errors on Android accessing nsIAppShellService.hiddenDOMWindow, but only on Android.
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  94. # [00:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5ae4fa0b1340 - Donovan Preston - Bug 972090 - Add missing strings to the webapprt's overridden copy of appstrings.properties. r=myk
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  102. # [00:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d57e7e2dfe4 - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 960378 - Allow Reading into non-tightly-packed surfaces. - r=bjacob
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  106. # [00:36] <NeilAway> bah, try server accepted invalid syntax but nothing got built :s
  107. # [00:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/60e089842cb6 - Bobby Holley - Bug 972478 - Docshell scriptability should only affect non-immune principals. r=bz
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  119. # [00:44] <heycam> I have an XPIDL question. in imgINotificationObserver.idl, there's a callback method notify, one of whose arguments is currently |[const] nsIntRect|. I want to make that more general so I can pass in a long value for a new notification type. how do I write that?
  120. # [00:44] <heycam> do I use "jsval"?
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  122. # [00:44] <heycam> if so, how do I pass in the nsIntRect object or the long value as appropriate, from C++?
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  132. # [00:47] <froydnj> heycam: it looks like it's not exposed to script, so you might just be able to add another [noscript] method? not sure if xpidl deals properly with overloads, even [noscript] overloads
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  140. # [00:47] <heycam> froydnj, ah. yeah I guess I could do that.
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  142. # [00:48] <heycam> froydnj, probably easier. thanks.
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  173. # [01:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4779f288cf6e - Bill McCloskey - Bug 947908 - [e10s] Middle clicking in about:newtab should open a new tab (r=felipe)
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  179. # [01:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c78178cf6702 - Steve Fink - No bug. Comment clarification on how to free JS_AllocateArrayBufferContents results. r=woof!, DONTBUILD
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  190. # [01:05] <sfink> gps: are there mach build options that would only do the initial tiers (export and compile)? And I guess I'd need to do ./mach configure first?
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  193. # [01:06] <nalexander> sfink: |mach build export| should do that; at least, when I implemented it, it did :)
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  195. # [01:06] <gps> sfink: like `mach build export` and `mach build compile`?
  196. # [01:06] <nalexander> sfink: you can try |mach build -v| to see what actually gets run.
  197. # [01:06] <sfink> ooh, that sounds good
  198. # [01:06] <sfink> does anything get compiled during the later tiers?
  199. # [01:07] <gps> compile does compiling. libs does linking + other; tools does misc stuff
  200. # [01:07] <gps> use `mach build binaries` to reproduce libxul
  201. # [01:07] <sfink> well, I knew that generally most of the compilation would happen during the compile tier. I wasn't sure if there were other random compilations during eg tools
  202. # [01:07] <gps> c++ tests
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  204. # [01:08] <sfink> This is for the static analysis, which really only needs to compile stuff, not link it. And I'm looking to speed it up.
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  206. # [01:08] <nalexander> sfink: where tests fit in is less clear. On Android, we do lots of stuff that could be called compilation and linking in the libs tier, but post compile.
  207. # [01:08] <sfink> er, this is for *one* of the static analysis, the rooting hazard analysis
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  209. # [01:08] <gps> compile is like 85% of the wall time
  210. # [01:08] <sfink> *analyses
  211. # [01:08] <gps> just do the whole thing. if you attempt to outsmart the build system, you're gonna have a bad time
  212. # [01:08] <sfink> yeah, ok
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  237. # [01:22] <grobinson> Anybody know if we accept and return cookies for favicon loads?
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  240. # [01:24] <nalexander> grobinson: that is a fascinating question. I'm quite certain we don't on Android, since we do that loading using the Android HTTP stack.
  241. # [01:24] <nalexander> rnewman: ckitching: can you confirm? ^
  242. # [01:24] <grobinson> nalexander: i was hoping it would be simple and straightforward :P
  243. # [01:25] <nalexander> grobinson: sadly, I have no idea for desktop.
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  251. # [01:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a82beb76bbd4 - Guillaume Destuynder - bug 948620 - Add env variable MOZ_DISABLE_CONTENT_SANDBOX to disable sandbox at runtime. r=jld
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  253. # [01:27] <rnewman> grobinson: let me look
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  256. # [01:28] <@khuey> till: yeah, I should do that
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  258. # [01:28] <@khuey> till: what's that bug #?
  259. # [01:28] <@khuey> glandium: :)
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  261. # [01:28] <till> khuey: 930908
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  265. # [01:29] <glandium> khuey: i should mention i don't know who you're talking about ;)
  266. # [01:30] <mayhemer> grobinson: we do
  267. # [01:30] <@khuey> glandium: softvision.ro?
  268. # [01:30] <grobinson> mayhemer: oh, dang
  269. # [01:31] <@khuey> till: 949992 is what I was looking for
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  271. # [01:31] <@khuey> till: btw, how is that sync messaging thing working for you?
  272. # [01:31] <mayhemer> grobinson: here is the load js stack: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4281590
  273. # [01:31] <till> khuey: oh, of course, sorry
  274. # [01:31] <mayhemer> grobinson: btw, we do some 3 requests for favicon, and I believe all are sending/accepting cookies
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  277. # [01:31] <till> khuey: pretty good so far
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  279. # [01:32] <rnewman> grobinson: the existence of nsIFaviconService.FAVICON_LOAD_NON_PRIVATE / nsIFaviconService.FAVICON_LOAD_PRIVATE implies that yes, cookies are supported
  280. # [01:32] <@khuey> till: cool
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  282. # [01:33] <grobinson> rnewman: ah, i thought that was because they would have a separate cache/store for private browsing
  283. # [01:33] <till> khuey: tobytailor ran into some issues with combining sync and async messaging, but I don't think any real blockers for what we're currently doing came up
  284. # [01:33] <rnewman> grobinson: this is the code that does the work: toolkit/components/places/AsyncFaviconHelpers.cpp
  285. # [01:33] <@ehsan> mshal: great investigation in bug 969689!
  286. # [01:33] <grobinson> rnewman: yeah, i'm digging into that now, thanks
  287. # [01:34] <rnewman> but to confirm nalexander: we don't do anything on Android
  288. # [01:34] <rnewman> we don't even use necko
  289. # [01:34] <@khuey> till: yeah, that wouldn't surprise me
  290. # [01:34] <grobinson> the bummer is that http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/ThirdPartyUtil.cpp?from=isThirdPartyChannel#153
  291. # [01:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/673bbf3b807f - Luke Wagner - Bug 936236 - Inline copyData into caller and handlify (r=jonco)
  292. # [01:34] <grobinson> doesn't know what to do with favicon channels
  293. # [01:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f57515a8bb3b - Luke Wagner - Bug 936236 - Inline getTransferableContents into caller and handlify (r=jonco)
  294. # [01:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/47870c0b90ba - Luke Wagner - Bug 971845 - Remove dead JSContext methods (r=sfink)
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  298. # [01:34] <till> khuey: thanks for the bug comment. I'll rework things accordingly
  299. # [01:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e0c6b897c47 - Luke Wagner - Bug 936236 - Inline allocateSlots into caller and handlify (r=jonco)
  300. # [01:35] <@khuey> till: I think you can figure out what to do from that but if you need help just let me know
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  302. # [01:35] <till> khuey: I think I can, too, but will ping you if that turns out to be wrong
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  329. # [01:54] <seth> khuey: do you happen to remember who the person was who was working on something significant in imagelib that you had mentioned i should meet? i wanna say it may have been the person working on decoding images directly to a smaller size
  330. # [01:56] * seth is fond of writing sentences that are hard to parse
  331. # [01:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f0ec5536ce00 - ffxbld - Added FIREFOX_28_0b3_RELEASE FIREFOX_28_0b3_BUILD1 tag(s) for changeset 1f89dd5f5d38. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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  339. # [01:58] <@khuey> seth: schien
  340. # [01:59] <@khuey> seth: and/or kanru
  341. # [01:59] <@khuey> I'm not sure who is working on what
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  343. # [02:00] <seth> khuey: thanks! i'll ping them. i'm about to undertake some MAJOR refactoring work and i wanna make sure i don't break peoples' important patches
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  347. # [02:03] <@khuey> seth: loop in jrmuizel too, he's up to something
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  351. # [02:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b69776cb061 - David Major - Bug 860254 - Part 2: Split junk settings into opt_junk (allocate) versus opt_poison (deallocate). r=glandium
  352. # [02:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1b9533aa1a0 - David Major - Bug 860254 - Part 1: #define MALLOC_FILL but keep the options const-false. r=glandium
  353. # [02:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00ea960e8164 - David Major - Bug 860254 - Part 4: Enable poisoning. r=glandium
  354. # [02:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2c1080ed8c03 - Glenn Randers-Pehrson - Bug 945912 - Add crashtest for libpng crash. r=ryanvm
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  360. # [02:10] <glandium> dmajor: you could have renumbered part 5
  361. # [02:10] <glandium> err part 4
  362. # [02:11] <Callek> blech, renumber it as part 100
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  364. # [02:11] <Callek> keep people guessing at the scope!
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  370. # [02:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24548c52a802 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 969085 - try harder to resolve relative paths in MozconfigLoader; r=gps
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  373. # [02:18] <mjrosenb> does a canvas refresh itself after every call to fillRect(...), or only after JS returns control to the browser?
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  378. # [02:20] <kanru> seth: good morning! schien has been working on imagelib to provide directly decoding to smaller buffers.
  379. # [02:20] <kanru> seth: I might hack something to have on-fly-downsample for the proof-of-concept patch today.
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  385. # [02:23] <till> mjrosenb: define "refresh itself"
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  388. # [02:23] <till> mjrosenb: rasterization happens immediately, if that's what you mean
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  390. # [02:23] <mjrosenb> till: I guess I don't mean redraw the page.
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  392. # [02:24] <mjrosenb> till: does that mean it just updates a few values in a C++-allocated buffer somewhere that later get read out, or is it doing a lot more math?
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  394. # [02:24] <till> mjrosenb: a *lot* more, I'd say
  395. # [02:25] <mjrosenb> fun.
  396. # [02:25] <till> mjrosenb: what's more, in many configurations this all happens on the GPU
  397. # [02:25] <mjrosenb> I'm re-implementing some stuff I did in high school in js, and it is much much smoother in chrome than firefox.
  398. # [02:25] <mjrosenb> then again, I don't actuall know js all that well, so I'm probably doing many many things wrong.
  399. # [02:25] <till> mjrosenb: do you have a test case?
  400. # [02:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae11ce69621f - Michael Wu - Bug 748598 - Implement VolatileBuffer for OSX, Ashmem, and Windows, r=njn,glandium
  401. # [02:26] <till> online, I mean
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  403. # [02:26] <mjrosenb> let me upload it.
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  405. # [02:27] <mjrosenb> till: http://www.club.cc.cmu.edu/~mjrosenb/serp.html
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  407. # [02:27] <reuben> nice :)
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  410. # [02:29] <till> mjrosenb: yeah, nice
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  413. # [02:31] <till> mjrosenb: so, I guess this would be much more performant if you created a typed array, did the pixel manipulations on that, and then used putImageData
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  415. # [02:31] <till> mjrosenb: additionally, we might suffer through slower js Math things, maybe. But I guess that's not significant compared to the rest
  416. # [02:32] <mjrosenb> till: I'm sure, but I wanted a simple draw function.
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  418. # [02:32] <till> mjrosenb: right, understandable. Although that would hardly be more complicated
  419. # [02:33] <mjrosenb> ahh, I don't know if I mentioned this, I'm porting a bunch of random things I did in high school in qbasic and vb to js.
  420. # [02:33] <till> mjrosenb: I could imagine that a software canvas might be faster
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  422. # [02:34] <till> mjrosenb: you could try enabling gfx.canvas.willReadFrequently.enable in about:config, and then passing in {willReadFrequently:true} when creating the context
  423. # [02:35] <till> mjrosenb: would be interesting to see if that makes a difference
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  425. # [02:35] <mjrosenb> till: do I need to re-start after enabling that?
  426. # [02:35] <till> I don't know :(
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  428. # [02:35] <till> mjrosenb: so I assume "yes"
  429. # [02:36] <till> or, maybe not, looking at the patch
  430. # [02:36] <mjrosenb> how recently was that added?
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  432. # [02:36] <mjrosenb> I only have one option under gfx.canvas
  433. # [02:37] <KWierso> mwu: bustage :(
  434. # [02:37] <mwu> boo
  435. # [02:37] <KWierso> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=34651580&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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  437. # [02:37] <till> mjrosenb: you might need to add the pref
  438. # [02:37] <mwu> uhhh
  439. # [02:37] <mwu> wait, what?
  440. # [02:38] <till> mjrosenb: it landed in December. Bug 884226
  441. # [02:38] <mwu> glandium's fix should've fixed that
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  443. # [02:38] <froydnj> forget to qref?
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  445. # [02:38] <mjrosenb> ok, I've definitely build since december.
  446. # [02:38] <glandium> "checking for posix_memalign... (cached) no"
  447. # [02:38] <glandium> thank you autoconf for being a moron
  448. # [02:38] <mwu> guess it's clobbering time.
  449. # [02:39] <mjrosenb> although, evidently I built with my own patches, so about:buildconfig isn't telling me when this is from.
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  451. # [02:39] <froydnj> glandium: autoconf says: "no, no, thank you for using me and being a moron!"
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  454. # [02:40] <glandium> froydnj: and i answer him "if i had a choice, you'd been dead for years"
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  456. # [02:40] <mwu> do we want to update the autoclobber file?
  457. # [02:41] <mwu> seems like a waste for osx only.
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  460. # [02:41] <till> billm++, "New OOP Window" is a great way to expose e10s for testing
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  462. # [02:41] <mwu> KWierso: ^ clobber needed on osx
  463. # [02:42] <KWierso> mwu: I think you should touch CLOBBER
  464. # [02:42] <cpeterson> till: it only works on OSX atm. Windows is coming in 1-2 days. Linux needs OMTC, probably next month.
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  466. # [02:42] <glandium> mwu: i think i have a better idea, let me see if i can have something in a timely manner
  467. # [02:42] <KWierso> or that :)
  468. # [02:42] <mwu> gotcha
  469. # [02:43] <till> cpeterson: yeah, I saw that. Since I use OS X, that's entirely sufficient for me :)
  470. # [02:43] <cpeterson> me too!
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  473. # [02:44] <billm> cpeterson: I think vlad said more like a month for windows
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  475. # [02:44] <billm> they're waiting for FF31
  476. # [02:45] <mjrosenb> froydnj: glandium: it seems like it wouldn't be that insane to clobber config's cache on every run.
  477. # [02:45] <cpeterson> billm: I thought you said your Windows fix already landed on m-i today?
  478. # [02:45] <glandium> mjrosenb: on windows that'd be a killer
  479. # [02:45] <mjrosenb> glandium: ahh.
  480. # [02:45] <billm> cpeterson: oh, that did. it fixed a problem that happens if OMTC is enabled. but we won't have OMTC enabled by default for a few weeks.
  481. # [02:46] <billm> cpeterson: and we need OMTC on by default for the window thing
  482. # [02:46] <glandium> gps: are you going to be around in the next few minutes for a quicky review?
  483. # [02:46] <mjrosenb> is the config's cache tied to the compiler's cache?
  484. # [02:46] <mjrosenb> err, vice versa.
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  487. # [02:47] <mattwoodrow> billm: Couldn't you enable OMTC for just that window?
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  489. # [02:47] <cpeterson> billm: ok, that makes sense. btw, what do you think of the name "New e10s Window" instead of "New OOP Window"? I think testers would recognize the e10s "brand" before making the mental leap from OOP -> Out Of Process -> e10s.
  490. # [02:47] <billm> mattwoodrow: I never got that patch to work properly, so I just landed without it
  491. # [02:47] <mattwoodrow> Asking for an e10s enabled window is already outside warranty, why not just enable more things :)
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  493. # [02:48] <billm> mattwoodrow: well, it requires us to have the compositor thread up at all times, even if they don't use the menu, and that broke stuff
  494. # [02:48] <billm> cpeterson: yeah, that might make sense
  495. # [02:49] <mattwoodrow> billm: oh right, I bet that's a bad thing
  496. # [02:49] <cpeterson> billm: I wonder what the UI style guidelines say about capitalizing lowercase terms like e10s. "New E10s Window" or "New e10s Window"? :)
  497. # [02:49] <billm> mattwoodrow: there were a bunch of failures with the image bridge, and I just got frustrated...
  498. # [02:50] <cpeterson> mattwoodrow: plus per-window e10s is a transitional state for testing. We don't want to invalidate our per-window e10s testing with per-window OMTC bugs.
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  501. # [02:50] <glandium> sigh m4
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  534. # [03:06] <KWierso> glandium: any word on the fix for that build bustage?
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  536. # [03:06] <glandium> KWierso: i'm struggling with m4
  537. # [03:06] <KWierso> or should we just touch CLOBBER and call it a day?
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  540. # [03:08] <glandium> KWierso: give me a few more minutes
  541. # [03:08] <KWierso> glandium: fine with me
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  549. # [03:11] <cpeterson> glandium: I see OSX compile warnings from new VolatileBuffer: memory/mozalloc/VolatileBufferOSX.cpp:49:3 [-Wunused-result] ignoring return value of function declared with warn_unused_result attribute
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  551. # [03:11] <glandium> mwu: ^
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  558. # [03:14] <glandium> KWierso: okay, i think i have a one-liner, let me test it
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  563. # [03:17] <glandium> KWierso: okay, it works. now i need gps
  564. # [03:17] <glandium> or someone willing to r+ it
  565. # [03:17] <KWierso> r=bustage? :P
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  568. # [03:18] <mwu> cpeterson: thanks for filing, I'll post a patch to shut the warning up
  569. # [03:18] <cpeterson> mwu: np :)
  570. # [03:18] <glandium> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4282408 who wants to r+?
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  574. # [03:20] <glandium> gps: ^
  575. # [03:20] <glandium> ted, khuey|away: ^
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  581. # [03:22] <padenot> Again, thanks so much, and it looks like a terrific site so far.
  582. # [03:22] <padenot> gah
  583. # [03:23] <KWierso> padenot: you're welcome!
  584. # [03:23] <KWierso> what site? :)
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  596. # [03:29] <KWierso> glandium: you sure we can't just land it with r=bustage for now?
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  598. # [03:30] <glandium> meh, i guess i can
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  601. # [03:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/532299d1368f - Mike Hommey - Followup for bug 967556 - Force AC_CHECK_FUNC to use a different cache. r=bustage on a CLOSED TREE
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  700. # [04:32] <seth> totally cool C++ protip: printf("my pointer is %p"); will print you a very nice pointer value, summoned out of thin air
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  704. # [04:33] <@khuey> seth: varargs is awesome
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  707. # [04:34] <seth> khuey: clang did warn about that, i just didn't immediately notice
  708. # [04:35] <mchang> till: thx for the welcome, great to be here :)
  709. # [04:35] <till> mchang: good to have you :)
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  788. # [05:46] <glandium> gps: too late, landed with r=bustage
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  846. # [06:45] <jcranmer> nothing quite like almost accidentally typing in hg push -f ssh://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central
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  878. # [07:05] <mjrosenb> jcranmer: instead of?
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  887. # [07:10] <efaust> mjrosenb: try, I hope
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  893. # [07:11] <mjrosenb> ahh.
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  897. # [07:13] <mjrosenb> yeah, I can see how that may cause some issues.
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  910. # [07:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0152d755e724 - Nick Alexander - Bug 853045 - Part 6: Allow running AndroidEclipse backend in |mach build-backend|. r=gps
  911. # [07:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9075983ad5e6 - Nick Alexander - Bug 853045 - Part 3: Add AndroidEclipseBackend. r=gps
  912. # [07:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/09d16faf75e1 - Nick Alexander - Bug 853045 - Part 2: Add frontend and RecursiveMakeBackend for Android Eclipse projects. r=gps
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  914. # [07:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2ffdc5a9471 - Nick Alexander - Bug 853045 - Pre: Remove outdated test files. r=me
  915. # [07:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e059cc39770e - Nick Alexander - Bug 853045 - Part 5: Advertise where Eclipse projects were written. r=gps
  916. # [07:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e03462c12642 - Nick Alexander - Bug 853045 - Part 4: Add Android Eclipse projects to moz.build files. r=gps
  917. # [07:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7452552f771 - Nick Alexander - Bug 853045 - Part 1: Add Android Eclipse project templates to mozbuild. r=gps
  918. # [07:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/620d43cffffe - Nick Alexander - Bug 971525 - Optionally make FileCopier only delete symlinked directories it needs to replace. r=gps
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  967. # [07:42] <gps> nalexander: I'd just disable the failing test
  968. # [07:43] <nalexander> gps: ? Oh, with the try build? That was not in the bad push, that was just that I changed an argument and forgot to update a brittle test.
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  973. # [07:44] <nalexander> gps: the follow-up was that I forgot your comment (and wasn't sure if automation relied on Reticulating splines...) and even worse, I misunderstood how mach's default argument for choices works so |build-backend| with no backend specified hard failed :(
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  975. # [07:44] <nalexander> gps: so that needed to be fixed, for sure.
  976. # [07:44] <nalexander> gps: writing some docs now, will watch the tree.
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  978. # [07:44] <gps> nalexander: inbound is busted with a python unit test failure
  979. # [07:45] <glandium> glob: the comment/preview thing doesn't show up nicely on the "enter bug" page
  980. # [07:45] <nalexander> gps: what? Hmm.
  981. # [07:45] <glandium> glob: it shows up on the left of the text box instead of above
  982. # [07:45] <glob> glandium, yeah; i've committed a fix for that, hope to get it pushed early next week
  983. # [07:45] <glob> (no pushes on friday)
  984. # [07:46] <gps> nalexander: it's probably the elusive environment detection on automation issue
  985. # [07:46] <glob> glandium, the workaround is to make your window narrower
  986. # [07:46] <glob> (but thanks for the heads-up!)
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  988. # [07:46] <glandium> glob: i won't make my window less large than my screen :-p
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  990. # [07:49] <nalexander> gps: looks like a legitimate problem with a missing file. My git -> hg export had troubles? /me digs in.
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  1002. # [07:51] * Topic is 'Next uplift 17 Mar || Want help, or want to help others? See #introduction || http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=developers'
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  1005. # [07:51] <gps> yay for tests
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  1009. # [07:54] <nalexander> gps: yeah, without the test, and me having seen this months ago, it might have taken a long time to notic.
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  1017. # [07:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/226462df194e - Nick Alexander - Bug 853045 - Second follow-up: Fix bustage caused by .hgignore. r=me
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  1123. # [08:50] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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  1326. # [10:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e7cf0b1d80c - Nicolas Silva - Bug 972397 - Fix BufferTextureClient::Lock. r=jrmuizel
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  1471. # [12:09] <NeilAway> ted: so, the media tests want to turn on the crash reporter, and I don't know enough build fu to get it to link
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  1474. # [12:14] <ewong|sleep> NeilAway I get that all the time
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  1513. # [12:47] <mikedeboer> backing out bug 326743 due to build failures on linux
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  1525. # [12:57] <skippydippy> hello
  1526. # [12:57] <skippydippy> i want to know to how to contribute to code
  1527. # [12:58] <skippydippy> i am new
  1528. # [12:58] <skippydippy> from where i can start
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  1533. # [12:59] <Optimize1> skippydippy: http://codefirefox.com/
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  1608. # [13:52] <NeilAway> bagder: don't use -s when building (I don't know how to do that through mach though)
  1609. # [13:53] <Gijs> ./mach build -v
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  1616. # [13:57] <bagder> thanks
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  1640. # [14:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4bae2b5cb32a - Honza Bambas - Bug 971975 - Proper state and non-null check for CacheFile::WriteMetadataIfNeededLocked(), r=michal
  1641. # [14:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4da945c0084c - Honza Bambas - Bug 950164 - Proper non-null check at CacheFileIOManager::OnProfile(), r=michal
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  1686. # [14:52] <mikeratcliffe> Anybody know why dom.send_after_paint_to_content is true (non-default) in tests?
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  1698. # [14:57] <bbouvier> is it a bug if i have several tab groups, close a tab in one group and firefox automatically jumps to the other group?
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  1709. # [15:07] <RattyAway> I tihnk this bug is pretty useless @2014AD. Time to deep-six? Bug 158590 - (unicode) [Tracker] Make Mozilla a Unicode application
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  1765. # [15:57] <vingtetun> ted: hey, sorry to be pushy, especially since i updated the patch only yesterday. do you have some time for a quick r? on bug 968237. (i will be off next week without any laptop and i would have been happy to merge it before leaving).
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  1781. # [16:10] <jhopkins> vlad: how are things going with the Date unit tests? anything I can help with?
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  1785. # [16:13] <Gijs> mikeratcliffe: talos relies on it, at least
  1786. # [16:13] <Gijs> mikeratcliffe: don't know about tests
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  1832. # [16:37] <paul> nsIDocShellTreeNode is gone?
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  1834. # [16:37] <Standard8> didn't that get integrated into one of the other nsIDocShell*
  1835. # [16:37] <Standard8> ?
  1836. # [16:37] <Standard8> TreeItem maybe
  1837. # [16:38] <paul> I see: bug 331376
  1838. # [16:38] <bz> nsIDocShellRootNodule?
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  1840. # [16:39] <Gijs> NeilAway: so I'm confused about bug 966683. If I moved the pref cache init thing into nsLayoutInit or whatever it was, would you take the patch?
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  1842. # [16:40] <Gijs> NeilAway: because to be honest, I'm fairly sure I don't qualify as "hardcore layout hacker", but equally I don't think we should ship the regression.
  1843. # [16:41] <Gijs> I'm not sure we can find someone to write and test the alternative fix, and get it uplifted in time.
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  1849. # [16:43] <ejpbruel> can I use file urls for workers if Im in browser mode in scratchpad?
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  1852. # [16:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8f0db74c6662 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 952890 part 2. Remove the IsArrayLike method, since it no longer matches any spec concept. r=peterv
  1853. # [16:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45da93d1dff9 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 952890 part 1. Make WebIDL sequence JS to C++ conversions use for-of iteration, not length/index gets. r=peterv
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  1855. # [16:47] <bz> ugh
  1856. # [16:47] <bz> wait!
  1857. # [16:47] * bz backs out
  1858. # [16:47] <Ms2ger> Heh
  1859. # [16:48] <bz> dammit
  1860. # [16:48] * bz thought the DOMStringList thing was already fixed... but apparently not
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  1865. # [16:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65ab71e42347 - Boris Zbarsky - Back out bug 952890, since the dependencies aren't fixed yet.
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  1868. # [16:53] <bz> Is it ok to cancel the builds for the known-broken push?
  1869. # [16:53] * bz should have maybe pushed the second one DONTBUILD....
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  1874. # [16:55] <Ms2ger> bz, I think it is
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  1890. # [17:01] <NeilAway> Gijs: well, the regression fix is easy - just flip the pref back
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  1893. # [17:02] <Gijs> NeilAway: that doesn't make sense. Then autohiding the menubar doesn't work. :\
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  1897. # [17:03] <NeilAway> Gijs: F10 still works, no?
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  1899. # [17:03] <Gijs> NeilAway: I don't know, but that's hardly the point. It'd still trade one regression for another - one in the default case vs. one in the non-default case, at that.
  1900. # [17:04] <RyanVM> bz: please do cancel unneeded builds
  1901. # [17:04] <NeilAway> Gijs: the menubar has been autohiding in full screen mode for ages, so it's hardly a regression
  1902. # [17:05] <bz> RyanVM: how?
  1903. # [17:05] <Gijs> NeilAway: it hasn't been autohiding in any other mode, and using fullscreen isn't the most common way of using Firefox.
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  1905. # [17:05] <RyanVM> bz: open the push in self-serve
  1906. # [17:05] * bz looks
  1907. # [17:05] <RyanVM> hit the cancel all button at the bottom of the page
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  1916. # [17:05] <RyanVM> btw, you can cancel your backout push too
  1917. # [17:05] <bz> yeah
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  1919. # [17:06] <NeilAway> sure, but if autohiding in fullscreen had been broken, you'd have thought someone might have noticed by now
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  1922. # [17:06] * bz can't find this cancel all button
  1923. # [17:06] <bz> https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/mozilla-inbound
  1924. # [17:07] <bz> Starting there, right?
  1925. # [17:07] <RyanVM> no...
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  1927. # [17:07] <bz> ok
  1928. # [17:07] <bz> then where?
  1929. # [17:07] <RyanVM> on tbpl
  1930. # [17:07] <RyanVM> hover over your push
  1931. # [17:07] <RyanVM> Self-serve Build API link
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  1933. # [17:07] <bz> ah, ok
  1934. # [17:07] * bz never noticed that before
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  1937. # [17:08] <bz> RyanVM: Thanks!
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  1942. # [17:08] <rvitillo> after being approved for an uplift in aurora, how do I request a checkin?
  1943. # [17:09] <Gijs> rvitillo: will happen automatically eventually, I'm pretty sure.
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  1945. # [17:09] <RyanVM> bz: yw :)
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  1947. # [17:09] <rvitillo> Gijs: cool, thx
  1948. # [17:09] <RyanVM> rvitillo: what he said
  1949. # [17:09] <RyanVM> i'll ping you if there's any problem
  1950. # [17:09] <RyanVM> Gijs: though gavin sent me a note yesterday about not doing australis uplifts to aurora?
  1951. # [17:09] <Gijs> RyanVM: correct.
  1952. # [17:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b18f669df651 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 972459 - Windows sandbox buildingbroke after porting some LOCAL_INCLUDES variables to moz.build. r=ehsan
  1953. # [17:09] <RyanVM> wfm
  1954. # [17:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20152316a608 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 969559 - Set delayed restricted integrity in child process to block off pipe and file access after LowerToken call. r=aklotz
  1955. # [17:10] <Gijs> RyanVM: there's so many of them and they will all conflict / get in each other's way / need to go in some order
  1956. # [17:10] <Gijs> RyanVM: so dealing with ourselves seemed easier.
  1957. # [17:10] <RyanVM> Gijs: my usual procedure is to uplift in the same order they hit fx-team/m-c
  1958. # [17:10] <RyanVM> but obviously that only works on already-approved patches
  1959. # [17:10] <Gijs> quite so.
  1960. # [17:10] <Gijs> and then there's dealing with nits etc.
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  1962. # [17:11] <RyanVM> *shrug* nothing I don't do all the time anyway :P
  1963. # [17:11] <RyanVM> (I also export the m-c patch if there's not a branch patch posted)
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  1975. # [17:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4081bcbf9285 - Michael Shuen - Bug 934817 - Part 2.5: Remove 0-length string check in dom/bindings/BindingUtils.cpp. r=bz
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  1977. # [17:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d67377d22e38 - guozhu cheng - Bug 927969 - Disable extensions when the WebGL context is lost. r=bjacob
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  2013. # [17:20] <bz> RyanVM: Do you know offhand of the bug for the dom-level-* test disabling?
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  2019. # [17:20] <RyanVM> bug 932350
  2020. # [17:20] <bz> Thanks
  2021. # [17:20] <RyanVM> np
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  2023. # [17:22] <bz> RyanVM: Do we have an example run with a timeout stack?
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  2026. # [17:23] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=33437021&tree=Mozilla-Beta
  2027. # [17:23] <RyanVM> but that doesn't hav ea stack
  2028. # [17:23] <RyanVM> so, dunno
  2029. # [17:23] <bz> mmm
  2030. # [17:23] <bz> 932349 is claimed resolved....
  2031. # [17:24] <RyanVM> you could hit it pretty easily on try
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  2033. # [17:25] <bz> So just back out https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8b8ecfe02a90 locally and push to try?
  2034. # [17:25] <bz> (and maybe take out the mac-only skip-if?)
  2035. # [17:25] * AutomatedTester changes topic to 'Next uplift 17 Mar || Want help, or want to help others? See #introduction || http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=developers'
  2036. # [17:25] <RyanVM> yes, exactly
  2037. # [17:25] <RyanVM> though you can hit them on linux/windows too
  2038. # [17:25] <RyanVM> and they were hitting on b2g desktop pretty easily
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  2044. # [17:28] <AutomatedTester> bz hey, did you want me to raise a bug about window.frames returning a different order to what is described in http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/browsers.html#accessing-other-browsing-contexts ?
  2045. # [17:29] <bz> AutomatedTester: Sure
  2046. # [17:29] <AutomatedTester> after we discussed on Wednesday
  2047. # [17:29] <AutomatedTester> ok, cool
  2048. # [17:29] <bz> AutomatedTester: Will need to test what browsers do and then decide whether it's the spec needs changing... ;)
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  2050. # [17:29] <AutomatedTester> :)
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  2054. # [17:31] <jgraham> AutomatedTester: Feel free to cc me on that bug
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  2056. # [17:31] <AutomatedTester> jg sure
  2057. # [17:31] <AutomatedTester> jgraham: ^
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  2060. # [17:32] <@ted> vingtetun: okay, can do
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  2063. # [17:33] <vingtetun> ted: thanks!
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  2074. # [17:42] <dholbert> Hi Rachel
  2075. # [17:42] <dholbert> er, wrong xchat tab
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  2095. # [17:58] <NeilAway> Gijs: anyway, just making that pref live is fine by me
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  2097. # [17:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f858de5e9dc - Glenn Randers-Pehrson - Bug 952505 - Update bundled libpng to version 1.6.9. r=jmuizelaar
  2098. # [17:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a99d7db15f4a - Milan Sreckovic - Bug 971817 - GetLog statics are initialized too late. r=jdaggett
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  2117. # [18:08] <Optimizer> it is stuck at searching stage
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  2151. # [18:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b6aa1e70e482 - David Keeler - bug 967975 - certificate error override telemetry r=briansmith
  2152. # [18:27] <bz> What does vouching for someone on mozillians mean?
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  2154. # [18:27] <@bsmedberg> bz: two things
  2155. # [18:27] <@bsmedberg> 1) they can see mozillian profiles that are mozillian-only
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  2157. # [18:28] <@bsmedberg> 2) they are invited to the mozillian-only video events and whatnot
  2158. # [18:28] <@bsmedberg> I tend to be quite liberal in handing out vouches… after I've reviewed their first patch
  2159. # [18:28] <bz> ok
  2160. # [18:29] * bz just wants to make sure he's not committing to anything
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  2162. # [18:29] <Callek> basically that "someone cares enough about mozilla to be a part of mozilla"
  2163. # [18:30] <Rik> bz: if someone ever leaks through someone you vouched, you'll be fired!
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  2165. # [18:30] <Rik> (or not)
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  2169. # [18:31] <Callek> theres no legal obligation for any "mozillian" to keep anything confidential if they are not an employee.... unless they have signed something saying so
  2170. # [18:32] <Callek> so the mere act of vouching has no connotation to keeping-things-secret, the only reason we have mozillian-only things is that press like to get a jump start and tear things apart sometimes before we get a chance to discuss them as a community, so instead of making said discussions employee-only we invite community to them
  2171. # [18:32] <mccr8> if you vouch for somebody and they leak something, we back out every patch you've landed.
  2172. # [18:32] <Callek> mccr8++
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  2174. # [18:33] <Callek> mccr8: almost makes me want to get bz to vouch for a throw-away nick of mine, and then leak something, (say by disabling GC in JS) and see what breaks when you try and back out every one of his patches
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  2177. # [18:34] <froydnj> Callek: we will make you back out his patches, then
  2178. # [18:35] <Callek> froydnj: hahaha, yea, umm no
  2179. # [18:35] <Callek> :-)
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  2181. # [18:36] <fkh> hi, I am new to mozilla source code and was wondering where can i find a documentation for code?
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  2183. # [18:36] <bz> fkh: which part of the code?
  2184. # [18:37] <Callek> fkh: in general lots of things are on https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/
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  2187. # [18:37] <bz> Usually, though documentation for the code is in the code...
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  2189. # [18:38] <Callek> such as the ability to even build is at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Firefox_build -- but yea, most code docs is part of the code/methods/idls/etc
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  2191. # [18:38] <fkh> bz: like classes, for example I want to log the url of a page when the page is loaded, I cannot find the classes rerlated to this
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  2193. # [18:38] <Callek> so if there is a specific area you are interested/wanting-to-work-in thats usually the best place, but devmo and/or dxr.mozilla.org will be a big help for you
  2194. # [18:38] <rnewman> Sylvestre: should I assume that the a+ for bug 969227 applies to the other two mentioned bugs? (it's a three-parter)
  2195. # [18:39] <fkh> OK, I'll try. thanks for your reply
  2196. # [18:39] <bz> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Feb/0062.html is priceless
  2197. # [18:40] <bz> fkh: nsIURI and nsDocument, presumably
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  2200. # [18:42] <fkh> bz: that's true, but I want to find the first function initiate these variables, I think I should search the code in dxr, thanks for your attention though
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  2203. # [18:43] <tbsaunde> philor: RyanVM should any of the orange in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=704b80184160 worry me?
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  2206. # [18:44] <Sylvestre> rnewman, I would prefer if you could request an uplift for them too
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  2210. # [18:47] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: unlikely
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  2231. # [18:49] <rnewman> Sylvestre: done!
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  2233. # [18:49] <Sylvestre> ta
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  2249. # [18:51] <Sylvestre> rnewman, done
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  2252. # [18:52] <rnewman> thanks!
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  2259. # [18:54] <RyanVM> jib: ping?
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  2262. # [18:54] <jib> RyanVM: uhoh
  2263. # [18:54] <RyanVM> jib: :)
  2264. # [18:54] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=34691480&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  2265. # [18:54] <RyanVM> from bug 949907
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  2271. # [18:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa640a2d7771 - James Hugman - Bug 970467 - wait until after saving apps to call hosted app install success callback; r=fabrice
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  2273. # [18:56] <NeilAway> whoa, unified builds make a no-op relink almost painless
  2274. # [18:56] <NeilAway> (relink is due to make not being able to handle spaces in path names)
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  2277. # [18:57] <jib> RyanVM: can I run a robocop2 locally?
  2278. # [18:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/557578ef40b6 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 969865 - Fix the allocation handling of frame time recording; r=avih
  2279. # [18:57] <RyanVM> jib: you should :)
  2280. # [18:57] <jib> RyanVM: I run ./mach mochitest-plain dom/media/tests/mochitest
  2281. # [18:58] <RyanVM> robocop isn't mochitest
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  2284. # [18:58] <RyanVM> jib: try asking in #mobile
  2285. # [18:58] * RyanVM doesn't know offhand
  2286. # [18:59] <jib> RyanVM: ok thanks
  2287. # [18:59] <dmajor> bsmedberg: should m_kato also review my upcoming changes for the main hook bug? I was going to send them to ehsan
  2288. # [18:59] <@bsmedberg> m_kato or ehsan
  2289. # [18:59] <@bsmedberg> they both know the code
  2290. # [18:59] <@ehsan|mtg> I can do that
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  2298. # [19:02] <dmajor> ok thanks
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  2318. # [19:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b0c69437217c - Timothy Nikkel - Backout bug 947467 for causing regressions. a=sledru
  2319. # [19:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0609dee24b0b - Lucas Rocha - Bug 935542 - Unset site selection listener when PinSiteDialog gets destroyed. r=mfinkle, a=lsblakk
  2320. # [19:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/631a07ce77cd - Glenn Randers-Pehrson - Bug 945912 - Add crashtest for libpng crash. r=ryanvm, a=test-only
  2321. # [19:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c1f340448e72 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 971745 - Ignore Back presses while initial bookmark list is loading. r=mfinkle, a=lsblakk
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  2323. # [19:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/151a690db415 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 935542 - PinSiteDialog fragment should be owned by TopSitesPanel. r=mfinkle, a=lsblakk
  2324. # [19:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/56bd156c98eb - Jeff Walden - Bug 961494 - Adjust an assertion to properly handle objects with built-in properties stored in reserved slots, where the last property of such an object may use a reserved slot
  2325. # [19:13] <firebot> that's not the last reserved slot. r=jorendorff, f=bhackett, a=sledru
  2326. # [19:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b37b9d564062 - Paolo Amadini - Bug 960962 - OS.File normalization and concatenation issues on Windows. r=Yoric, a=sledru
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  2344. # [19:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/06e17bc14749 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 961297 - Increase buffer between PJS worker thread stack size and limit marker. (r=nmatsakis)
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  2350. # [19:25] <RyanVM> jib: any luck?
  2351. # [19:25] <RyanVM> :)
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  2353. # [19:26] <jib> RyanVM: I'm building fennec right now, not there yet. contemplating backout?
  2354. # [19:26] <RyanVM> well, I've got other bustage to deal with right now anyway
  2355. # [19:26] <RyanVM> so you've got some time until I sort that out
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  2357. # [19:27] <jib> RyanVM: Ok, I'll post progress here
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  2359. # [19:27] <RyanVM> bholley: ping?
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  2362. # [19:28] <bholley> RyanVM: hi
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  2364. # [19:28] <RyanVM> oh, hmm, I think I know what caused it
  2365. # [19:29] <RyanVM> nical: ping
  2366. # [19:29] <RyanVM> bholley: unping :)
  2367. # [19:29] <bholley> RyanVM: \o/
  2368. # [19:29] <RyanVM> <3 try runs that run 2 tests and call it a day
  2369. # [19:29] <RyanVM> and break a crap-ton of others
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  2372. # [19:31] <RyanVM> jib: OK, now I"m contemplating :)
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  2374. # [19:33] <jib> RyanVM: not following. what caused it?
  2375. # [19:33] <RyanVM> i've got the other bustage backout ready to push
  2376. # [19:33] <jib> ok
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  2387. # [19:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4609a7efae47 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset e1d1542ff35c (bug 949907) for robocop failures.
  2388. # [19:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5749f2fc4f47 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 8 changesets (bug 959154) for various oranges.
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  2435. # [20:04] <@smaug> hsivonen: wchen: ping
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  2437. # [20:04] <wchen> smaug: pong
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  2439. # [20:05] <@smaug> wchen: you have used parser's java->C++ translator lately, right?
  2440. # [20:05] <wchen> smaug: yeah
  2441. # [20:05] <@smaug> what adds various .h includes to nsHTML5TreeBuilder.h
  2442. # [20:05] <@smaug> I may remove nsHtml5PendingNotification
  2443. # [20:05] <@smaug> but I don't see that or PendingNotification or anything like that in .java
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  2445. # [20:06] <wchen> let me take a look
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  2451. # [20:07] <wchen> smaug: https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/htmlparser/file/1ae146a0e807/translator-src/nu/validator/htmlparser/cpptranslate/CppTypes.java#l103
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  2456. # [20:08] <@smaug> oh, /me cries
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  2458. # [20:08] <@smaug> and I don't care
  2459. # [20:08] <@smaug> that is not in m-c
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  2462. # [20:09] <@smaug> so the patch for m-c can't have changes to that repo
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  2466. # [20:09] <wchen> nope
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  2471. # [20:10] <wchen> actually, any time someone changes the parser in m-c, I manually apply the patch in the htmlparser repository.
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  2474. # [20:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a48e28808790 - Andreas Pehrson - Bug 959154 - Part 2: Remove local ImageFormatForSurfaceFormat. r=nical
  2475. # [20:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58afc23fabe8 - Andreas Pehrson - Bug 959154 - Part 8: Moz2Dify GLUploadHelpers. r=nical
  2476. # [20:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b36d265d7a0 - Andreas Pehrson - Bug 959154 - Part 4: Deprecate thebes version of GLTextureImage::DirectUpdate. r=nical
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  2482. # [20:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5dacf72427de - Andreas Pehrson - Bug 959154 - Part 1: Moz2Dify gl::UploadImageData. r=nical
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  2485. # [20:12] <@smaug> wchen: k, great
  2486. # [20:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cac044190278 - Andreas Pehrson - Bug 959154 - Part 6: Move away from DeprecatedDirectUpdate and remove them. r=nical
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  2498. # [20:16] <NeilAway> ted: any advice for my link errors? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=43feb395a26f
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  2508. # [20:21] <Optimizer> how do I get reference to the current channel from file HttpBaseChannel.cpp, is it |this| ?
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  2515. # [20:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a9285940b371 - Rick Eyre - Bug 941701 - Fix crash in TextTrackCue::GetCueAsHTML r=rillian
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  2517. # [20:25] <mrbkap> Does anybody else get Firefox into a state where it won't connect to web sites anymore?
  2518. # [20:25] <mrbkap> Maybe it's SSL ony?
  2519. # [20:25] <mrbkap> +l
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  2522. # [20:26] <billm> bent: ping
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  2525. # [20:28] <mrbkap> billm: I think bent is still on vacation until Tuesday.
  2526. # [20:29] <bent> billm, hi
  2527. # [20:29] <billm> oh, ok. thanks
  2528. # [20:29] <mrbkap> oops
  2529. # [20:29] <bent> mrbkap, no, back today
  2530. # [20:29] <mrbkap> bent: oh! welcome back :P
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  2532. # [20:29] <bent> mrbkap, think i'd miss krispy kreme heart-shaped doughnuts?!
  2533. # [20:29] <billm> bent: did you see my comment here about the IO: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=910384#c28
  2534. # [20:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ec73b94e194 - Honza Bambas - Bug 968606 - Update in-content/advanced.js to use HTTP cache v2 API, r=bbondy
  2535. # [20:29] <mrbkap> bent: No clue... I am missing them.
  2536. # [20:30] <bent> billm, oh, no, i didn't
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  2538. # [20:30] <billm> mrbkap: also, I do sometimes get weird behavior where I can't connect to certain websites
  2539. # [20:30] <bent> billm, but still don't think we should do it
  2540. # [20:30] <vingtetun> ted: thanks a lot
  2541. # [20:30] <bent> billm, removing them is hard enough
  2542. # [20:30] <bent> billm, adding more is craziness ;)
  2543. # [20:31] <mrbkap> billm: I think I've convinced myself that it's https sites only, fwiw.
  2544. # [20:31] <billm> bent: I don't really see how this would hurt us though. it's hard for me to imagine how the inode wouldn't already be cached.
  2545. # [20:31] <@ted> vingtetun: np
  2546. # [20:32] <bent> billm, i'd ask someone on taras' team to see if they can give you better assurances
  2547. # [20:32] <billm> mrbkap: yeah, that's possible. I have a lot of problems with gmail after I wake up.
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  2551. # [20:33] <billm> vladan: ping
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  2570. # [20:45] <vladan> billm: pong
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  2576. # [20:46] <billm> vladan: do you think it's okay to stat() a file on the main thread that the user just picked using the file picker? my thinking is that it will already have been stat()ed by the OS, so the data should already be cached.
  2577. # [20:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb5c1b2dc7e4 - Neil Rashbrook - Bug 966911 Part 4: Recreate the underlying nsAString when an an external string is passed back to C++ r=bholley
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  2581. # [20:48] <sfink> bent: I've seen that happen (where you can't connect to web sites) when some sort of global connection limit is reached. Don't remember what it was exactly. I think it may have been SSL only.
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  2584. # [20:48] <NeilAway> mayhemer: does the old cache provide the new api for now, and if so, is there a conversion guide for non mozilla-central users?
  2585. # [20:49] <mayhemer> NeilAway: on phone...
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  2587. # [20:49] <NeilAway> mayhemer: np, just link me to some appropriate docs when you get a chance
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  2591. # [20:50] <bent> sfink, ? I am missing context I think
  2592. # [20:50] <sfink> bent: doh! sorry
  2593. # [20:50] <sfink> mrbkap: ^
  2594. # [20:50] <bent> ah ok
  2595. # [20:50] <vladan> billm: if it's already been stat()'d then it should be fine wrt performance, although we should confirm the behavior with xperf/strace/dtruss first. It'll also result in main-thread IO being reported to Telemetry or any similar future tools, but that's not such a big deal
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  2598. # [20:52] <billm> bent: all right, I guess I'll run it on another thread. it's easier than testing it on every platform.
  2599. # [20:52] <billm> vladan: thanks
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  2601. # [20:52] <mayhemer> NeilAway: please only the new API, yes, there are interfaces under netwerk/cache2
  2602. # [20:52] <mayhemer> NeilAway: and at this moment there is no doc for this
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  2604. # [20:52] <bent> billm, use the streamtransportservice
  2605. # [20:52] <mayhemer> NeilAway: however, next week I plan to start writing one since we want it for simplifying reviews of the code
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  2607. # [20:53] <mayhemer> NeilAway: look at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/cache2/nsICacheStorageService.idl
  2608. # [20:53] <mayhemer> NeilAway: and http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/cache2/nsICacheStorage.idl
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  2610. # [20:54] <billm> bent: are you sure? I'm not actually reading the file.
  2611. # [20:54] <mayhemer> NeilAway: btw, I would be glad if you give me any feedback on it
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  2616. # [20:54] <bent> billm, i mean so you don't have to make a new thread yourself
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  2618. # [20:55] <bent> billm, streamtransportservice is already a running threadpool so you can just dispatch there and then re-dispatch to the main thread once you have the size and mtime
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  2625. # [20:57] <billm> bent: ok, I see. thanks.
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  2658. # [21:09] <Optimizer> nsString to char16_t* is a simple casting, right ?
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  2663. # [21:10] <Optimizer> (no)
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  2668. # [21:15] <mrbkap> sfink: is there a bug filed?
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  2674. # [21:17] <sfink> mrbkap: I thought so. I'm looking for a bug. Might be bug 421128, but I thought I saw something more directly related recently.
  2675. # [21:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/414d5d40ec1f - Branislav Rankov - Bug 969375 - MIPS port: Added Architecture-mips files. r=nbp
  2676. # [21:18] <mrbkap> sfink: I don't think that's the bug you wanted :)
  2677. # [21:19] <mrbkap> oh
  2678. # [21:19] <mrbkap> sfink: ignore me
  2679. # [21:19] <mrbkap> sfink: i saw firebot's message.
  2680. # [21:19] <sfink> heh
  2681. # [21:20] <sfink> mrbkap: argh. I can't find the recent one I was thinking of.
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  2688. # [21:22] <Optimizer> till now, the worst part of writing C++ patches have been string conversions -__-
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  2693. # [21:23] <@dbaron> Optimizer, .get()
  2694. # [21:24] <Optimizer> srsly ? :/
  2695. # [21:24] <froydnj> Optimizer: yarly
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  2698. # [21:25] <Optimizer> I read https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla_internal_string_guide and https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla_internal_string_guide for what ? :D
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  2701. # [21:25] <@dbaron> Optimizer, those look like the same url
  2702. # [21:26] <Optimizer> ugh
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  2707. # [21:26] <Optimizer> yeah they are :D
  2708. # [21:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0f1774ac976 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 969375 - MIPS port: Added Assembler-mips files. r=froydnj,nbp
  2709. # [21:26] <froydnj> our string code is so complicated that you have to read it twice!
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  2712. # [21:26] <Optimizer> even twice is not helpful
  2713. # [21:26] <Optimizer> :D
  2714. # [21:26] <@dbaron> Optimizer, I should really find the time to fix up the string docs
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  2716. # [21:26] <@dbaron> a bunch of the docs were "hey, I just used the string code for the first time and here's what I discovered" type docs
  2717. # [21:27] <Optimizer> yeah, remove the NS_XTOY and add MOZ_Y
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  2719. # [21:27] <Optimizer> i mean not remove, but just add
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  2722. # [21:27] <@dbaron> Optimizer, https://wiki.mozilla.org/Gecko:Overview#String is what I've written so far
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  2729. # [21:28] <Optimizer> yeah, A blog type doc with proper sections might be much better for first timers
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  2741. # [21:33] <till> RyanVM: the resolution in bug 785905 isn't the one you were looking for
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  2749. # [21:34] <RyanVM> till: ok? Sorry, I didn't see a better option for "we don't need this and might never"
  2750. # [21:34] <RyanVM> RESOLVED MAYBESOMEDAY
  2751. # [21:34] <philor> I like INCO for that
  2752. # [21:34] <RyanVM> that works I guess
  2753. # [21:34] <RyanVM> I went with WONTFIX :)
  2754. # [21:35] <RyanVM> they can always reopen if they change their mind some day
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  2756. # [21:35] <RyanVM> till: what's your preference?
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  2758. # [21:36] <till> RyanVM: right, so I might have not fully followed the history. I saw an r+ from jorendorff on a never-landed patch just before a WONTFIX
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  2763. # [21:36] <RyanVM> till: I was going off comment 42
  2764. # [21:36] <till> RyanVM: ugh, I've clearly not have my coffee yet :/
  2765. # [21:37] <till> RyanVM: how about we pretend this conversation didn't happen? That'd work for me
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  2768. # [21:37] <RyanVM> WFM :)
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  2770. # [21:37] <froydnj> RESOLVED INCOMPLETE
  2771. # [21:37] <till> RyanVM++ :)
  2772. # [21:37] <Optimizer> REOPENED
  2773. # [21:38] <RyanVM> froydnj: TBH, I really don't care. WONTFIX seemed convenient because I could use matching status flags then too
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  2776. # [21:39] <froydnj> RyanVM: I have no dog in the fight; I was trying to make a joke about your conversation with till :)
  2777. # [21:39] <RyanVM> oh, ok :)
  2778. # [21:40] <till> RyanVM: hey, I just stumbled upon bug 785905. Good choice on resolving that as WONTFIX. Lesser minds would maybe have chosen INCOMPLETE. ;)
  2779. # [21:40] <froydnj> till++
  2780. # [21:40] <RyanVM> :D
  2781. # [21:41] <till> froydnj: ;)
  2782. # [21:41] <RyanVM> till: of course, now the real question is what time of day is it for you to not have had your coffee yet?!?!
  2783. # [21:41] <till> RyanVM: heh. Unusually, it's 9:40am. I'm in Auckland for a few weeks
  2784. # [21:41] <RyanVM> ahhhhh
  2785. # [21:41] <RyanVM> makes much more sense :)
  2786. # [21:42] <till> RyanVM: also, what're you talking about?
  2787. # [21:42] <RyanVM> well, I was thinking it was ~10pm your time, which is awfully late for not having had coffee yet :)
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  2789. # [21:43] <till> RyanVM: yeah, but I don't remember having told you about that ;)
  2790. # [21:43] <RyanVM> ok, I give up
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  2793. # [21:44] <till> :D
  2794. # [21:44] <RyanVM> and on that note
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  2811. # [21:51] <rbarnes> so i've pushed a build to the try server, and forgot to trigger the tests
  2812. # [21:51] <rbarnes> now the builds are sitting there; is there a way for me to have it run the tests on the existing build?
  2813. # [21:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70307e75c08e - Nicolas B. Pierron - Backed out changeset c0f1774ac976 (Bug 969375) for wrong author.
  2814. # [21:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/79f126126169 - Branislav Rankov - Bug 969375 - MIPS port: Added Assembler-mips files. r=froydnj,nbp
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  2816. # [21:52] <till> rbarnes: sadly, no. You have to re-push
  2817. # [21:52] <rbarnes> till: sigh. ok, thanks
  2818. # [21:53] <till> rbarnes: on the bright side, the tests take much longer to run than the builds, so you didn't waste that much time ;)
  2819. # [21:53] <rbarnes> till: dunno, the builds took >60min for this
  2820. # [21:53] <froydnj> depends which tests and which platform
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  2822. # [21:53] <till> true
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  2824. # [21:53] <froydnj> screwing up a win32 push = sadface
  2825. # [21:54] <till> the builds also include some tests, which run in parallel to some other tests
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  2844. # [22:02] <curiousguy13> hey, how do i run git on the mozilla shell?
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  2851. # [22:07] <nbp> till: Monday, I will submit a new patch for the XDRLazyScript, with test for relazification ;)
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  2853. # [22:07] <bent> billm, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/ipc/TabParent.cpp#77 does sorta what you want
  2854. # [22:07] <bent> billm, well, same pattern anyway
  2855. # [22:07] <dougt> gavin: ping?
  2856. # [22:07] <bent> billm, dunno if that helps or not
  2857. # [22:08] <dougt> are the door hangers for permissions broken in firefox on m-a?
  2858. # [22:08] <bent> billm, maybe just an example of what i'm talking about
  2859. # [22:08] <dougt> maybe windows only.
  2860. # [22:08] <billm> bent: ok. btw, why did you want me to use FallibleTArray?
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  2864. # [22:11] <till> nbp: great!
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  2867. # [22:13] <bent> billm, just because we're in the parent operating on an arbitrary list controlled by the user
  2868. # [22:13] <bent> billm, if we OOM we reboot
  2869. # [22:13] <bent> (on b2g)
  2870. # [22:14] <bent> billm, though it's not necessarily going to help if we're really close to OOMing
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  2875. # [22:15] <billm> bent: I'm just skeptical that the user could pick enough files to really make a difference. this seems like a small allocation to me.
  2876. # [22:15] <bent> billm, probably true... i guess we can switch to fallible if we ever see it in crash stats
  2877. # [22:15] <billm> bent: ok, thanks
  2878. # [22:16] * bent is always unsure how good those checks are
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  2897. # [22:29] <bkero> Pike: ping
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  2900. # [22:31] <gps> bkero: HTTP 413 when pushing to fx-team. bug 898638 updated
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  2902. # [22:33] <bkero> gps: I saw it.
  2903. # [22:33] <bkero> fubar: are you around?
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  2906. # [22:33] <bkero> gps: I'm not sure the settings he was referring to in Zeus, it would be helpful to have his insight into this.
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  2909. # [22:35] <fubar> bkero: heyo. was just on the phone
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  2917. # [22:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2fc3f9509b0 - Bill McCloskey - Back out assertion in bug 963952 for crashes
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  2920. # [22:38] <fubar> gps: why did you pick 4:30pm EST on a friday before a long weekend to break this?! ;-)
  2921. # [22:38] <bkero> gps: couldn't you just clone another copy of fx-team over ssh and compare instead of using your http copy?
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  2923. # [22:40] <gps> fubar: you can probably wait until next week to change the load balancer config
  2924. # [22:40] <gps> bkero: the fact it was cloned over http vs ssh doesn't matter one bit
  2925. # [22:41] <gps> i can change future communication to go over ssh
  2926. # [22:41] <fubar> it'll just crop up again for someone else. if not here, another repo down the road.
  2927. # [22:41] <gps> my initial comment in the bug 7 months ago said we'll eventually run into this on other repos
  2928. # [22:42] <gps> i'm probably the first person to hit it since I develop with bookmarks and have a unified repo
  2929. # [22:42] <gps> but other people are starting to abandon mq and others use the unified repo approach. it's only a matter of time
  2930. # [22:42] <bkero> Correct, but as far as affecting your workflow you could mitigate by hg out-ing against ssh instead of http.
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  2932. # [22:42] <gps> bkero: correct
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  2934. # [22:43] <bkero> So it's really not as urgent as all-your-work-stops that P1 really entails
  2935. # [22:44] <bkero> We should certainly get this fixed in Zeus so others don't run into it. 1642 EST on Friday might not be the best time for that though.
  2936. # [22:44] <bkero> fubar: What do you think?
  2937. # [22:44] <jrmuizel> froydnj: ping
  2938. # [22:44] <gps> bkero: i just downgraded to a P2. I'll let others triage further
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  2940. # [22:45] <fubar> bkero: let's wait until tuesday to bump the setting a bit. I'd really hate to accidentally cause memory issues on zeus this weekend
  2941. # [22:46] <ejpbruel_> bent: ping
  2942. # [22:46] <froydnj> jrmuizel: pong
  2943. # [22:46] <fubar> (even more so, releng aws is pulling from hg.m.o rather than hg-internal now)
  2944. # [22:47] <jrmuizel> froydnj: unping
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  2946. # [22:47] <bkero> fubar: fine with me. Out of curiosity, if things break for everybody else this weekend, what is the setting called in Zeus that I would need to change?
  2947. # [22:48] <fubar> bkero: I'll add it to the bug
  2948. # [22:48] <bent> ejpbruel_, hi
  2949. # [22:48] <bkero> Thanks!
  2950. # [22:48] <fubar> np
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  2956. # [22:50] <ejpbruel_> bent: hi
  2957. # [22:50] <ejpbruel_> bent: i have 2 questions for you
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  2960. # [22:52] <bent> hm, anyone remember who we have that likes reviewing mingw changes?
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  2962. # [22:52] <ejpbruel_> bent: can you help me understand the check at http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/workers/WorkerPrivate.cpp#2183 ?
  2963. # [22:53] <froydnj> bent: jacek or glandium
  2964. # [22:53] <bent> froydnj, thanks
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  2967. # [22:54] <bent> ejpbruel_, what about it do you not understand?
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  2969. # [22:54] <bent> why we'd want to not allow that runnable to be posted in either of those cases?
  2970. # [22:55] <ejpbruel_> bent: I get we shouldnt be dispatching runnables to a worker that is dead
  2971. # [22:55] <ejpbruel_> bent: but why is the parent status only taken into account if we dont have a sync loop target?
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  2973. # [22:56] <bent> parent status is sort of irrelevant if we have a sync loop target, since workers can't shut down until their sync loops are finished
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  2979. # [22:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/fdf71716eef0 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 943925 - Fix the loading of the glDrawBuffers symbol - r=jgilbert, a=blocking-b2g-1.3
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  2984. # [22:58] <ejpbruel_> bent: what exactly is the invariant between parent status and child status?
  2985. # [22:58] <ejpbruel_> bent: if we dont have sync loop that is
  2986. # [22:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61cef3b533ba - James Willcox - Bug 939276 - Use a single GLContext for all SkiaGL canvases r=bjacob,gwright,dglastonbury
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  2988. # [22:59] <bjacob> snorp: woohoo!
  2989. # [22:59] <ekr> froydnj: ping
  2990. # [23:00] <bent> ejpbruel_, not sure i understand what you're asking. there's really no invariant, they track different things
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  3000. # [23:02] <ejpbruel_> bent: you said that if we a sync loop, the parent status is irrelevant
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  3004. # [23:02] <ejpbruel_> bent: that implies the parent status *is* relevant if we dont have a sync loop
  3005. # [23:02] <ejpbruel_> bent: how is it relevant for the child?
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  3009. # [23:03] <bent> parent status is relevant without a sync loop because if the parent has already told the worker to close down it shouldn't be dispatching any more runnables to it
  3010. # [23:03] <ejpbruel_> bent: ah!
  3011. # [23:03] <ejpbruel_> bent: right
  3012. # [23:03] <ejpbruel_> bent: that brings me to me second question
  3013. # [23:03] <ejpbruel_> bent: ive implemented a workerdebuggermanager service, and a workerdebugger
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  3016. # [23:04] <ejpbruel_> bent: workerdebuggers are created and registered on the manager by the workerprivate, exactly like we do for memoryreporters
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  3018. # [23:04] <ejpbruel_> bent: the workerdebugger also shares the mutex with the workerprivate
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  3029. # [23:11] <ejpbruel_> bent: sorry, my hotel wifi crapped out
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  3031. # [23:11] <ejpbruel_> bent: are you still here?
  3032. # [23:12] <bent> yep!
  3033. # [23:12] <snorp> god dammit
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  3036. # [23:12] <ejpbruel_> bent: ok, so long story short: i have a worker debugger manager, on which i register worker debuggers, one for each worker private
  3037. # [23:13] <ejpbruel_> bent: the worker debugger manager is thread safe and the JS debugger can access it to obtain a list of worker debuggers
  3038. # [23:13] <ejpbruel_> bent: the worker debugger shares a mutex with the workerprivate, so it should lock the mutex and check if its mWorkerPrivate pointer has not been nulled before doing anything on the worker
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  3040. # [23:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1cedc759f877 - James Willcox - Bug 939276 - build bustage
  3041. # [23:13] <ejpbruel_> bent: right now im implementing a ImportScript function on the workerdebugger that wed like to use to load the debugger server script in a worker
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  3043. # [23:14] <ejpbruel_> bent: I was hoping to do that by creating an ImportScriptsRunnable, which just calls scriptloader::Load
  3044. # [23:14] <ejpbruel_> and then use WorkerPrivateParent<Derived>::DispatchPrivate to dispatch it to the worker being debugged
  3045. # [23:14] <ejpbruel_> bent: minor problem is that DispatchPrivate locks the mutex, and I already locked it before I called it
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  3047. # [23:15] <ejpbruel_> bent: so it seems reasonable to me to just copy over those parts of DispatchPrivate that I need into ImportScripts
  3048. # [23:15] <ejpbruel_> bent: hence the question what those checks are about
  3049. # [23:15] <ejpbruel_> bent: what do you think?
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  3051. # [23:15] <bent> ejpbruel_, if you just need to dispatch runnables to the worker then you could just use the worker's eventtarget
  3052. # [23:15] <bent> it handles locking and stuff for you
  3053. # [23:16] <bent> of course, that's for normal runnables, not control runnables
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  3055. # [23:16] <bent> so maybe that won't be enough
  3056. # [23:16] <ejpbruel_> bent: question
  3057. # [23:16] <ejpbruel_> bent: DispatchPrivate dispatches the event to mThread (if its not a sync runnable)
  3058. # [23:16] <ejpbruel_> bent: how is that different from mEventTarget?
  3059. # [23:17] <ejpbruel_> i assume thats what youre talking about
  3060. # [23:17] <Pike> bkero: pong
  3061. # [23:17] <bent> ejpbruel_, don't worry about the members, i'm talking about http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/workers/WorkerPrivate.h#315
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  3063. # [23:18] <ejpbruel_> bent: how is dispatching a runnable to the workers eventtarget different from what DispatchPrivate does?
  3064. # [23:19] <ejpbruel_> bent: also, note that GetEventTarget locks the mutex as well, so i cant use that as is either
  3065. # [23:19] <ejpbruel_> because I already locked the mutex before I call the function
  3066. # [23:19] <bent> ejpbruel_, let's back up. do you need to dispatch control runnables? i think you do, right?
  3067. # [23:20] <ejpbruel_> bent: i dont think so
  3068. # [23:20] <ejpbruel_> bent: ive created a ImportScriptsRunnable
  3069. # [23:20] <ejpbruel_> bent: its a normal runnable that i want to dispatch to a worker from the main thread
  3070. # [23:20] <bent> how do you expect it to run if a worker is in a while(1) loop?
  3071. # [23:21] <ejpbruel_> bent: once it runs, it just calls scriptloadeR::Load
  3072. # [23:21] <ejpbruel_> bent: oh, thats a good point
  3073. # [23:21] <ejpbruel_> bent: it would be nice if we could debug workers that are stuck in a while (1) loop
  3074. # [23:21] <ejpbruel_> bent: so in that case, yes
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  3076. # [23:22] <bent> you'd have a similar problem with a sync xhr
  3077. # [23:23] <bent> debugging would be blocked on however long it took the network to respond
  3078. # [23:23] <bent> so don't worry about the event target thing, it won't work for you
  3079. # [23:23] <ejpbruel_> bent: right
  3080. # [23:23] <ejpbruel_> bent: whats the right approach here then?
  3081. # [23:23] <bent> control runnables
  3082. # [23:24] <bent> but they interrupt arbitrary js
  3083. # [23:24] <bent> so you're going to have to be really careful
  3084. # [23:24] <bent> you can't spin a sync loop from a control runnable, for instance
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  3086. # [23:24] <ejpbruel_> bent: right
  3087. # [23:25] <ejpbruel_> bent: urgh
  3088. # [23:25] <ejpbruel_> bent: doesnt scriptloader::load spin a sync loop at some point?
  3089. # [23:25] <bent> yes
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  3092. # [23:25] <ejpbruel_> bent: well, shit :)
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  3094. # [23:26] <bent> i'm really not sure how the js debugger works, but i don't understand why you need to load code
  3095. # [23:26] <bkero> Pike: Hi there. I sent you an email about if you're still having issues with hg.mozilla.org.
  3096. # [23:26] <ejpbruel_> bent: well
  3097. # [23:26] <ejpbruel_> bent: we have a debugger API in spidermonkey
  3098. # [23:26] <ejpbruel_> bent: and a debugger server in JS
  3099. # [23:26] <ejpbruel_> bent: the idea is to load the debugger server in a worker
  3100. # [23:26] <ejpbruel_> bent: in a separate global
  3101. # [23:27] <ejpbruel_> bent: and then create an auxiliary message channel so we can talk to the debugger server from the main thread
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  3104. # [23:27] <ejpbruel_> bent: the debugger server already uses message passing, you see
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  3106. # [23:27] <ejpbruel_> bent: i dont think we want to load the debugger server for every worker when its created, so doing it on demand seems the best option
  3107. # [23:28] <ejpbruel_> bent: hence the need for WorkerDebugger::ImportScript
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  3109. # [23:28] <ejpbruel_> are you following?
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  3112. # [23:28] <bent> well, i understand the basic idea
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  3114. # [23:28] <bent> but i don't understand the js server piece
  3115. # [23:29] <ejpbruel_> bent: what dont you understand about it?
  3116. # [23:29] <bent> i figured you'd just install some hooks on the JSRuntime
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  3118. # [23:30] <bent> why is it necessary to create a separate global and run script in it?
  3119. # [23:30] <ejpbruel_> bent: oh, this is a result of how the debugger API works
  3120. # [23:30] <bent> s/in/on/
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  3125. # [23:30] <ejpbruel_> bent: when we create a debugger object with the API we need to give it a list of globals to observe
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  3127. # [23:31] <ejpbruel_> bent: it can only observe globals other than the one it was created in
  3128. # [23:31] <Pike> bkero: right. there's often "something". not all related to upstream hg.m.o, too. I came back to an odd error this morning, but I couldn't drill that down to any known cause
  3129. # [23:31] <ejpbruel_> bent: so to debug anything you need at least 2 globals
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  3131. # [23:31] <bkero> Pike: feel like elaborating?
  3132. # [23:31] <Pike> bkero: a pull died with an IOError
  3133. # [23:31] <Pike> no idea why
  3134. # [23:31] <bent> ejpbruel_, is there no debugger api for c++?
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  3136. # [23:32] <kats> snorp: still busted!
  3137. # [23:32] <bkero> Pike: Huh, have a traceback?
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  3139. # [23:32] <ejpbruel_> bent: no
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  3141. # [23:32] <bent> ok
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  3146. # [23:33] <Pike> bkero: rhelmer has another bustage on a poller of ours, but that is hopefully independent of hg and an issue with the local rabbit setup
  3147. # [23:34] <bent> ejpbruel_, well, i guess you just want to block the worker while you create the new global and everything
  3148. # [23:34] <rhelmer> Pike: yeah likely, we obviously need better monitoring
  3149. # [23:34] <bent> so you can't really use scriptloader
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  3151. # [23:34] <bent> ejpbruel_, ^
  3152. # [23:34] <rhelmer> Pike: likely unrelated
  3153. # [23:34] <bent> ejpbruel_, you'll need to reuse parts of it i guess
  3154. # [23:34] <bent> ejpbruel_, or, do you know the debugger server script source ahead of time?
  3155. # [23:35] <ejpbruel_> bent: yes
  3156. # [23:35] <ejpbruel_> bent: also
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  3158. # [23:35] <bent> ejpbruel_, so we don't need to go through necko at all?
  3159. # [23:35] <ejpbruel_> bent: its fine if the worker keeps running while we wait for the debugger server script to get loaded at all
  3160. # [23:35] <ejpbruel_> bent: oh, hmmm
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  3163. # [23:35] <ejpbruel_> bent: interesting
  3164. # [23:35] <ejpbruel_> bent: so what youre saying is just pass the script source to the function?
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  3166. # [23:36] <bent> ejpbruel_, well, load it on the main thread or whatever
  3167. # [23:36] <bent> ejpbruel_, then block the worker,
  3168. # [23:36] <bent> ejpbruel_, create the global, execute the script
  3169. # [23:36] <bent> ejpbruel_, unblock the worker
  3170. # [23:36] <ejpbruel_> bent: thats not such a bad idea!
  3171. # [23:36] <ejpbruel_> bent: in that case we could use a control runnable, like you said
  3172. # [23:37] <bent> well, we've never had control runnables that could cause gc or things like that
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  3174. # [23:37] <ejpbruel_> bent: hm
  3175. # [23:37] <bent> so you may encounter problems
  3176. # [23:37] <ejpbruel_> bent: we could also just say that you cant debug workers in a while (1) loop
  3177. # [23:37] <ejpbruel_> for now
  3178. # [23:37] <bent> ugh, what are we going to do about the error reporter?
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  3180. # [23:37] <Pike> bkero: just sending you the log, 500, 404, and an IOError with stack trace
  3181. # [23:37] <bent> that doesn't seem useful
  3182. # [23:38] <bent> the problem is not just while(1)
  3183. # [23:38] <bent> it's if the worker is busy
  3184. # [23:38] <ejpbruel_> bent: but other than the while(1) case, it wont be busy forever, right?
  3185. # [23:38] <Pike> bkero: the timezone in the timestamps is always confusing me, it's somewhere on the american content, but not california
  3186. # [23:38] <bz> man
  3187. # [23:38] <bz> try builds are ... a bit behind?
  3188. # [23:39] <ejpbruel_> bent: it might be good enough for now if the debugger is loaded *eventually*
  3189. # [23:39] <bent> ejpbruel_, your runnable will go into the back of a queue
  3190. # [23:39] <ejpbruel_> bent: what kind of issues do you think we'd run into?
  3191. # [23:39] <bent> ejpbruel_, that may never run
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  3193. # [23:39] <ejpbruel_> bent: i get that, because the worker may shutdown at some point
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  3196. # [23:40] <ejpbruel_> bent: but
  3197. # [23:40] <ejpbruel_> bent: the WorkerDebugger already has the understanding that the worker may have shut down by the time were trying to load the debugger in it
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  3199. # [23:40] <philor> snorp: the tree has a strong sense of grammar and rightness of expression, so if you land a patch with the summary "build bustage" then it'll give you that
  3200. # [23:41] <ejpbruel_> bent: hmm, no youre right
  3201. # [23:41] <ejpbruel_> bent: we want to be able to detect if the debugger didnt load
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  3203. # [23:41] <ejpbruel_> bent: control runnables are guaranteed to run once dispatched, right?
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  3205. # [23:41] <Pike> bkero: I also think I'm probably just fuzz-testing hg.m.o more than anything else ;-)
  3206. # [23:41] <till> philor++
  3207. # [23:41] <philor> "fix second build bustage on this CLOSED TREE" or "back out everything and go drinking instead of looking at this CLOSED TREE" would be good
  3208. # [23:41] <bent> ejpbruel_, unless the worker is already dying, yes
  3209. # [23:41] <ejpbruel_> bent: right
  3210. # [23:42] <ejpbruel_> bent: so we have to use a control runnable here
  3211. # [23:42] <bent> ejpbruel_, i don't see any other way to do it
  3212. # [23:42] <ejpbruel_> bent: what kind of issues do you think well run into if we eval a script in a control runnable?
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  3215. # [23:43] <bent> ejpbruel_, well, there's the error reporter, then there's the gc, and we'd have to think about what to do if we're suspended
  3216. # [23:43] <ejpbruel_> bent: lets go over these issues
  3217. # [23:43] <ejpbruel_> bent: what about the error reporter?
  3218. # [23:43] <bent> ejpbruel_, it runs code on the worker global
  3219. # [23:44] <bent> ejpbruel_, so that cannot be allowed to happen from a control runnable
  3220. # [23:44] <ejpbruel_> bent: right, i see that
  3221. # [23:45] <bent> ejpbruel_, more generally i don't think we have the ability to have a separate error reporter per-global
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  3223. # [23:45] <bent> ejpbruel_, so you'd need to unset/reset the error reporter each time you run debugger code i guess
  3224. # [23:45] <bkero> Pike: since 2014-02-14 things seem pretty good, NFC what that error was about near the SIGTERM, the 06:38:33 entry was probably a network blip
  3225. # [23:45] <ejpbruel_> bent: thats acceptable
  3226. # [23:45] <ejpbruel_> bent: we already do things like disable timers and such when we enter the debugger on the main thread
  3227. # [23:46] <philor> gps: looks like you've got xpcshell bustage on fx-team
  3228. # [23:46] <bent> ejpbruel_, oh, right, you'll have to do that for workers too
  3229. # [23:46] <ejpbruel_> bent: we do want *some* kind of error reporting for the debugger though
  3230. # [23:46] <ejpbruel_> bent: i mean this debugger server is probably not going to run out of the box
  3231. # [23:46] <philor> b2g: your stuff is always indistinguishable from busted
  3232. # [23:47] <ejpbruel_> bent: couldnt we fix the error reporter so that it emits error events on the appropriate global?
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  3234. # [23:47] <bent> ejpbruel_, i don't know what is supposed to happen for errors in the debugger server
  3235. # [23:47] * philor is now known as philor|away
  3236. # [23:47] <bent> ejpbruel_, i'd assume you just log them to the console
  3237. # [23:47] <ejpbruel_> bent: as long as they get reported somewhere
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  3241. # [23:48] <ejpbruel_> bent: we could also have an onerror hook on the workerdebugger
  3242. # [23:48] <ejpbruel_> but that might be overkill
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  3244. # [23:48] <bent> i think that wouldn't work
  3245. # [23:48] <bent> but also overkill
  3246. # [23:49] <ejpbruel_> bent: so we need to make sure the error reporter is disabled if were running debugger code
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  3250. # [23:49] <ejpbruel_> bent: can we log stuff to the console from a worker?
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  3253. # [23:50] <bent> ejpbruel_, well, set to something that doesn't run worker script
  3254. # [23:50] <bent> sure, it's c++, you can do anything
  3255. # [23:50] <ejpbruel_> haha
  3256. # [23:50] <ejpbruel_> fair point
  3257. # [23:51] <ejpbruel_> bent: i meant can we do so in a thread safe way?
  3258. # [23:51] <ejpbruel_> or do i have to make it thread safe
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  3260. # [23:51] <bent> ejpbruel_, the console service itself is threadsafe
  3261. # [23:51] <gps> philor|away: I'll fix it
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  3264. # [23:52] <ejpbruel_> bent: perfect
  3265. # [23:52] <ejpbruel_> bent: so, what about gc from a control runnable?
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  3267. # [23:53] <bent> dunno if that's dangerous or not
  3268. # [23:53] <Pike> bkero: I'll keep watching the logs, I'll get back to you guys on monday how the bot lived over the weekend
  3269. # [23:53] <bent> ejpbruel_, hopefully not
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  3272. # [23:53] <bent> ejpbruel_, as long as we don't run finalizers that mess with the running script somehow
  3273. # [23:54] <bkero> Pike: cool, thanks
  3274. # [23:54] * bent thinks we do delayed finalization everywhere now so it's probably fine
  3275. # [23:54] <ejpbruel_> bent: how could finalizers mess with the running script?
  3276. # [23:54] * ejpbruel_ thought finalization wasnt observable from the js side
  3277. # [23:55] <bent> ejpbruel_, from js, sure. but this is sorta dom
  3278. # [23:56] <ejpbruel_> bent: i fail to see how exactly this could break anything
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  3280. # [23:56] <ejpbruel_> bent: got an example?
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  3283. # [23:57] <bent> ejpbruel_, well, it just depends on what our C++ code does
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  3285. # [23:57] <bent> ejpbruel_, let's say you count the number of live Foo objects
  3286. # [23:57] <bent> ejpbruel_, and once the last Foo object is destroyed you make it do something that alters the state of the worker
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  3290. # [23:58] <ejpbruel_> bent: right, and then that could be observable from the JS side
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  3292. # [23:58] <bent> ejpbruel_, i don't think we have anything that does this currently
  3293. # [23:58] <ejpbruel_> bent: right, so youre fairly confident were safe
  3294. # [23:58] * bz is now known as bz_away
  3295. # [23:58] <bent> ejpbruel_, but something to think about anyway
  3296. # [23:58] <ejpbruel_> bent: but its good to be aware of this
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