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# Session Start: Tue Feb 25 00:00:00 2014
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# [00:11] <Yoric> froydnj: Mmmh?
# [00:12] <squib> what's the preferred syntax for making an iterator in JS these days?
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# [00:12] <squib> i know it used to be __iterator__
# [00:12] <glandium> froydnj: we like bumping our download size
# [00:12] <glandium> after icu, adobe cmaps
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# [00:18] <nemo> So I was reading: http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2014/02/22/the-worlds-fastest-vp9-decoder-ffvp9/
# [00:18] <nemo> And got curious.
# [00:18] <nemo> Which one does Firefox use?
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# [00:19] <cajbir> nemo: we use the reference libvpx decoder
# [00:19] <nemo> ah
# [00:19] <nemo> 'k. 'cause ffvp8/9 does seem to thoroughly kick its ass
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# [00:20] <Six> gps: hi
# [00:20] <rillian> nemo: is it still getting faster? We looked a little while ago and it's wasn't compelling
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# [00:20] <gps> Six: hi
# [00:20] <Six> gps: i just have one question about your comment on bug 975067
# [00:20] <nemo> Grrr. I so wish people would add IDs to their blog post to anchor further down
# [00:21] <nemo> Also wish that Firefox hadn't pulled XPath links which make a decent alternative
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# [00:21] <nemo> in the past I could have done:
# [00:21] <nemo> http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2014/02/22/the-worlds-fastest-vp9-decoder-ffvp9/#xpath:/html/body/div/div[2]/div/div/div[2]/div[2]/p[10]/a/img
# [00:21] <nemo> and you guys would have jumped to the charts which might answer rillian's question
# [00:21] <Six> gps: i understand your answer and i agree with but the message is displayed only if the topobjdir.Makefile isn't present
# [00:22] <froydnj> glandium: seriously, this is the sort of stuff that the JS Intl API should take care of so we don't have to duplicate things like this :(
# [00:22] <rillian> nemo: 25-50% decode improvement is impressive, but looks like that's pre-haswell x86_64-only?
# [00:22] <glandium> froydnj: aiui, though, that translates pdf-specific data to unicode
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# [00:24] <Six> gps: as you say "If the tree is only configured (mach configure) but not built and a partial tree build is attempted, there are high chances that the build will fail due to a build dependency not being performed (due to the partial build nature)."
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# [00:24] <Six> gps: so if i just do a mach configure and then a partial build, we agree it will fail
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# [00:25] <Six> gps: so maybe there are better ways to ensure that dependencies are build than checking if the topobjdir Makefile is present?
# [00:26] <Six> gps: that's why i was mileading by the code and thought only a configure was enough as the configure generates the Makefile
# [00:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c594f255751 - L. David Baron - Bug 975295 patch 2: Remove the nsITraceRefcnt interface and any instantiation of the nsTraceRefcntImpl object. r=bsmedberg
# [00:26] <nemo> rillian: "this means this difference might grow over time as ffvp9 gets AVX2 optimizations also."
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# [00:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/39c8925c2543 - L. David Baron - Back out changeset 72c0c955cf53 (no bug) now that bug 939610 is fixed.
# [00:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e6499af80b5 - L. David Baron - Bug 975295 patch 1: Remove class nsTraceRefcnt, which is unused. r=bsmedberg
# [00:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29af928ab75b - L. David Baron - Bug 939610: Return to printing stack walk addresses in uppercase hexidecimal rather than lowercase, since we have scripts depending on it. r=ted
# [00:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22a2eb6d2145 - L. David Baron - Bug 975741: Store the initial value of 'perspective' as 'none' rather than the (invalid value) '0' to make storage of 'none' consistent, and remove workaround from
# [00:27] <firebot> nsComputedDOMStyle computed value implementation. r=heycam
# [00:27] <nemo> rillian: that is, they appear to still kick libvpx' ass at haswell, and anticipate kicking it even more thoroughly later
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# [00:27] <gps> Six: we don't want people to attempt a partial tree build if the tree isn't built
# [00:27] <nemo> rillian:
# [00:27] <nemo> oups
# [00:27] <nemo> rillian: "Some users may find that ffvp9 is a lot slower than advertised on 32bit; this is correct, most of our SIMD only works on 64bit machines."
# [00:27] <nemo> that could be a prob w/ firefox I guess...
# [00:28] <nemo> "If you have 32bit software, port it to 64bit. Can’t port it? Ditch it. Nobody owns 32bit x86 hardware anymore these days." - AFAIK FF on windows is still 32 bit right
# [00:28] <Six> gps: yeah sure i agree but then the check doesn't look enough
# [00:28] <gps> Six: it isn't. it's rather hacky
# [00:28] <nemo> rillian: checkout the multithreading charts too
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# [00:29] <Six> gps: okay :)
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# [00:29] <Six> gps: thanks
# [00:29] <rillian> nemo: correct. xp support is still important.
# [00:29] <jcranmer> even our OS X still needs to be 32 bit on some machines
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# [00:29] <nemo> rillian: I guess linking w/ different lib for 32 bit isn't practical
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# [00:30] <rillian> well, it is. we do separate fixed-point builds of the vorbis and opus decoders on arm
# [00:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d1d368fdc10 - Jim Blandy - Bug 935203: Consolidate initialization of ScriptSource from CompileOptions. r=djvj
# [00:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7bfc35e8d2b5 - Jim Blandy - Bug 935203: Provide introductionType information for all sources of JS in SpiderMonkey. r=djvj
# [00:30] <rillian> but you have to justify the additional complexity and fuzzing/testing surface
# [00:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/684a53eafa31 - Jim Blandy - Bug 935203: Provide introductionType information for JS code appearing in event handlers. r=bz
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# [00:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/75147b26aef9 - Jim Blandy - Bug 935203: Don't leak ScriptSources if we error out before a ScriptSourceObject can take ownership of them. r=djvj
# [00:30] <nemo> rillian: hm. "there’s no SIMD optimizations for non-x86 platforms yet (e.g. arm-neon)."
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# [00:31] <nemo> rillian: so. not only no 32 bit x86, but no arm either
# [00:31] <rillian> nemo: and that's where we need performance the most
# [00:31] <nemo> rillian: and without 64 bit FF on Windows, that means the audience for this decoder would just be Linux/OSX
# [00:31] <nemo> I'm guessing we linux users, not high on the priority list given Windows marketshare
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# [00:32] <glandium> we could read vp9 with gstreamer-ffmpeg
# [00:32] <rillian> I'd say this only helps 4k playback on (64-bit) desktop, and _that_ is currently too small to justify an alternate library
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# [00:33] <rillian> glandium: or call ffmpeg directly
# [00:33] <glandium> rillian: we already have the gstreamer foo
# [00:34] <rillian> glandium: I know. but see bug 941298
# [00:34] <nemo> rillian: you know, on that front, I was trying to see how vp9 does in Firefox by hitting https://www.youtube.com/user/WebMVP9 which according to google's presentation has vp9 vids
# [00:34] <nemo> rillian: but they pulled them all :(
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# [00:34] <rillian> nemo: yeah :(
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# [00:34] <rillian> they've pulled a lot of the vp8 vids too
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# [00:35] <nemo> rillian: also, seems like for 1080p, vp9 halves the bitrate, so presumably that'll be a win for non-4k too, although not until it becomes more widely available
# [00:35] <rillian> if you look at https://www.youtube.com/html5 you'll notice it's checking for MediaSource Extensions and VP9
# [00:35] <reuben> hm, building a single file via |./mach build path/to/file.o| doesn't work anymore. I wonder if unified builds broke this
# [00:35] <nemo> rillian: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-all-html5/ seems to work basically everywhere for me
# [00:35] <rillian> it may be they're planning to only serve VP9 in that context
# [00:35] <nemo> rillian: they make vp8 harder to find/don't serve it, but the content still seems to be there
# [00:35] <rillian> nemo: do you have mp4 support?
# [00:35] <gps> reuben: if said source file is in unified mode, yes it would
# [00:35] <nemo> rillian: well, what I end up saving is vp8
# [00:36] <rillian> nice
# [00:36] <gps> reuben: although, we could probably hack that together if you really wanted it
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# [00:36] <reuben> gps: yeah. I guess |./mach build binaries| is good enough
# [00:36] <glandium> rillian: how useless...
# [00:36] <rillian> the do serve more webm to 'embed' iframes than they will on the main site, which is frustrating
# [00:36] <glandium> rillian: that patch would already not work on my system
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# [00:36] <rillian> glandium: why not?
# [00:37] <glandium> rillian: because we're now at libavcodec54, libavformat54 and libavutil52
# [00:37] <glandium> and i'm on "only" debian testing
# [00:37] <nemo> rillian: if you do use All HTML5 and you have problems getting stuff to load, try to switch the "YouTube video loading method" in preferences from "Emulate Internet Explorer" to something else
# [00:37] <nemo> rillian: you're right about the iframe thing
# [00:38] <nemo> rillian: I had a small bookmarklet that would rewrite the url to use /embed/ instead, but All HTML5 works even better
# [00:38] <glandium> rillian: and debian experimental has libavcodec55
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# [00:39] <nemo> rillian: welp. I'm thinking of switching to vp9 for my home videos after the presentation showing the massive win over vp8 in terms of quality. encoding cost is high, but my clips tend to be short and I don't have many of 'em
# [00:39] <rillian> nemo: does, for example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmSbXsFE3l8 play for you?
# [00:39] <nemo> rillian: yep
# [00:39] <rillian> ok. doesn't play here, even with the add-on
# [00:39] <nemo> hm
# [00:40] <rillian> macosx, no flash, webm-only
# [00:40] <nemo> rillian: try switching that pref then
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# [00:40] <nemo> rillian: yeah. I have flash disabled too
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# [00:41] <nemo> rillian: I love the "Resize" option. sometimes videos are too small, but I don't want to go fullscreen 'cause switching back and forth is inefficient
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# [00:41] <nemo> rillian: like. I'll be fullscreen but want to adjust system volume, and I'll hit esc and youtube will think it is time to switch back to 480
# [00:41] <rillian> glandium: so version skew is a huge problem. Ok. I suppose we could support multiple versions of the interface.
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# [00:42] <nemo> rillian: hm. I have an OSX machine handy. lemme try the addon on it. one mo
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# [00:42] <glandium> rillian: commented in the bug
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# [00:42] <nemo> rillian: installed addon, played fine
# [00:43] <nemo> rillian: huh. locale dependent?
# [00:43] <nemo> google blocks some vids in some countries
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# [00:43] <nemo> (installed addon *and* disabled flash) and verified I had the html5 context menu too
# [00:43] <WeirdAl> hi folks, got a problem compiling mozilla-release: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4383917
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# [00:44] <WeirdAl> suggestions?
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# [00:44] <nemo> rillian: the other interesting thing is that the HTML5 vid still serves ads. I've noticed this lately. Doesn't particularly bother me, but I'd heard as an excuse for lack of serving of webm, the fact that they couldn't serve ads
# [00:44] <squib> in the firefox profiler, is there a way to tell how long a range of samples is, in wall-clock time?
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# [00:45] <BenWa> squib: Drag the range
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# [00:45] <WeirdAl> duh, --disable-gamepad
# [00:45] <squib> BenWa: what are the units? milliseconds?
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# [00:45] <BenWa> squib: yes
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# [00:46] <BenWa> it should say 'ms'
# [00:46] <squib> BenWa: great, thanks!
# [00:46] <squib> BenWa: it just says "Sample Range [942, 1763]" for me
# [00:46] <BenWa> that wont give you a time
# [00:46] <BenWa> it maybe im not sure
# [00:46] <BenWa> drag the histogram view next to a thread
# [00:46] <BenWa> that will give you a range
# [00:46] <BenWa> err time range
# [00:47] <BenWa> squib: Like so: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3ja3uuj3st7iyfy/Screenshot%202014-02-24%2018.50.03.png
# [00:47] <rillian> nemo: indeed.
# [00:47] <BenWa> ignore the color borders
# [00:47] <squib> BenWa: i don't have that, presumably because i'm remote-profiling thunderbird
# [00:47] <squib> oh well
# [00:48] <rillian> glandium: thanks
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# [00:48] <froydnj> Yoric: the Cu.import investigation
# [00:49] <Yoric> froydnj: Thanks.
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# [00:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b157f5d0c235 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 974197 - Fire MozAfterPaint after the compositor runs. r=roc
# [00:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73d924b389d4 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 680817 - Keep GLXPixmaps bound to textures between updates on NVIDIA drivers to improve performance. r=joe
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# [01:00] <lsblakk> roc: ping?
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# [01:04] <cabanier> is there a way to detect b2g in script?
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# [01:05] <NeilAway> nemo: ok, so not what I would think of as message passing then, sorry
# [01:06] <@ehsan> felipe: ping
# [01:06] <felipe> ehsan: pong
# [01:06] <@ehsan> felipe: I put myself into trouble for commenting on bug 971043 didn't I? ;)
# [01:06] <@ehsan> felipe: what kind of feedback are you interested in?
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# [01:06] <felipe> ehsan: you certainly did :)
# [01:07] <@ehsan> ouch!
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# [01:08] <felipe> ehsan: so, two things
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# [01:09] <felipe> ehsan: one is that I want some general feedback mostly to see if anyone thinks I'm going in the right direction with it or not
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# [01:10] <felipe> ehsan: the other is that I'm trying to find someone to actually do the review when the time comes.. (probably not too far, just need to change some stuff and write tests)
# [01:11] <@ehsan> felipe: the thing is, reading this much js code is excrutiating for me :/
# [01:11] <@ehsan> felipe: so I was mostly hoping to get out of the second point above :)
# [01:12] <@ehsan> sounds good?
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# [01:12] <@roc> lsblakk: hi
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# [01:13] <felipe> ehsan: yep, sounds good! Also you don't need to give a detailed feedback on the JS code either.. I'd be happy if you can just give some thought on what I explained in the comments (and the comments in the patch), see if they make sense
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# [01:13] <felipe> there's the whole "changing the webpage" thing which is risky
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# [01:14] <@ehsan> felipe: ok sounds good, will take a look (probably tomorrow though)
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# [01:15] <felipe> ehsan: also, one thing that I was wondering if you know is if there's a good solution for JS regexps not handling unicode chars for \w
# [01:15] <@khuey|pto> ehsan: there are actual bugs being hidden
# [01:15] <@khuey|pto> ehsan: surprise!
# [01:15] <@ehsan> khuey|pto: yeah shocking!
# [01:15] <@ehsan> khuey|pto: also, you aren't doing well on taking PTOs ;)
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# [01:16] <@ehsan> felipe: I don't know of better ways of doing that...
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# [01:16] <@ehsan> khuey|pto: for some added fun, look at my patch there ;)
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# [01:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a19e4c6dc2a9 - Neil Rashbrook - Bug 956657 Followup tweak r=Unfocused
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# [01:17] <@khuey|pto> ehsan: tomorrow :)
# [01:17] <@ehsan> sounds good!
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# [01:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0f13ab0740e - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 941995 - Disable double-tapping and click delay on pages that are device-width or narrower. r=mbrubeck,wesj
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# [01:29] <taras> sicking: you should try to stick to firefox, re https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976362
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# [01:29] <WeirdAl> another build bustage, mozilla-release: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4384291
# [01:29] <WeirdAl> help!
# [01:31] <@dbaron> why is the build system not letting me run 'make reftest' because of an error with manifests... which looks like it's going to require a clobber!
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# [01:32] <@dbaron> (Is that what "ValueError: Item already in manifest: nsTraceRefcnt.h" means?)
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# [01:33] <@dbaron> er, wait, no, it's not a clobber issue
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# [01:36] <WeirdAl> reed?
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# [01:37] <@roc> is it only me for whom "mach build" recompiles the JS engine every single time?
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# [01:39] <till> roc: it's just that the engine is changing so quickly that updates arrive on your machine even if you don't pull
# [01:39] <NeilAway> roc: try setting REBUILD_CHECK=1 ?
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# [01:46] <@roc> NeilAway: thanks!
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# [01:46] <@roc> apparently it thinks "jsautokw.h" changed
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# [01:48] <froydnj> roc: sounds like a bug
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# [01:48] <philor> does hg log say that file was landed by someone @pge.com? might be short for auto killowatt
# [01:49] <gps> webapprt and nsBrowserApp should be the only object files that get recompiled during a no-op build
# [01:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5492ecd562f9 - Geoff Brown - Bug 969612 - Split test_URIs.js into 2 halves; r=jesup
# [01:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/27885bfe078f - Geoff Brown - Bug 969624 - Skip test_storageservice_client.js on Android 2.3 emulator; r=dminor
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# [01:49] <gps> anything else is a bug (or an issue with mtimes on your filesystem)
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# [01:50] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jedp: ping about that orange on fx-team?
# [01:50] <@roc> seems like jsautokw gets regenerated on every build
# [01:50] <gps> roc: Windows?
# [01:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a109eb551fc - Jonathan Watt - Bug 975900 - Convert imgUtils to Moz2D (from gfxASurface to SourceSurface). r=mattwoodrow
# [01:50] <@roc> gps: Linux
# [01:51] <jedp> KWierso|sheriffduty i'm not sure what's behind it yet, and i can't repro locally; working on it.
# [01:51] <@roc> and that's because "Rebuilding host_jskwgen because .deps/host_jskwgen.pp changed"
# [01:51] <jedp> KWierso|sheriffduty if you'd rather back the patch out until i fix, i would certainly understand :)
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# [01:51] <jedp> KWierso|sheriffduty is it occurring on winxp all the time? or is it intermittent?
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# [01:52] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jedp: I'm only seeing the one instance
# [01:53] <KWierso|sheriffduty> retriggering a bunch of times on that failure to see what happens
# [01:53] <gps> roc: mtime issue most likely
# [01:53] <jedp> KWierso|sheriffduty awesome - thanks
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# [01:53] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jedp: tempted to just file it as intermittent if the retriggers all pass
# [01:53] <nemo> NeilAway: there's kind of a parallel w/ web workers if I might say...
# [01:54] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jedp: if another one fails, I'll probably back it out and go from there :)
# [01:54] <nemo> NeilAway: I know there's work on releasing objects for workers to use
# [01:54] <@roc> gps: what kind of mtime issue?
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# [01:54] <nemo> NeilAway: but read-only access to DOM would still be tremendously useful. Even if the state was in flux
# [01:54] <nemo> like, for GL apps
# [01:54] <nemo> NeilAway: IMO anyway, but, eh, not my area of expertise
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# [01:54] <@roc> js/src/.deps/host_jskwgen.pp is being modified on every build. Is that an mtime issue?
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# [01:55] <gps> it's being modified on every build b/c host_jskwgen is running on every build
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# [01:55] <jedp> KWierso|sheriffduty that sounds good. thanks. I've been finding tests that use more than one request to an http server, which this test needs to do, to be sometimes a bit wobbly on windows. I'm hunting for strategies for dealing with this, but I find the same error when i search bugzilla for other intermittents :)
# [01:55] <jedp> oops
# [01:55] <jedp> i mean :(
# [01:55] <jedp> frowny
# [01:55] <gps> wait, how does host_jskwgen.pp get produced
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# [01:56] <gps> oh wait - that's the binary. duh
# [01:57] <gps> roc: if you touch host_jskwgen, it should go away
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# [01:57] <@roc> -rw-rw-r--. 1 roc roc 89 2014-02-25 13:56:12.070943490 +1300 obj-ff-debug/js/src/.deps/host_jskwgen.pp
# [01:57] <@roc> -rwxrwxr-x. 1 roc roc 25103 2014-02-25 13:56:12.068943490 +1300 obj-ff-debug/js/src/host_jskwgen
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# [01:57] <@roc> so the .pp file mtime is slightly later than the binary
# [01:57] <@roc> that seems wrong
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# [01:58] <gps> indeed
# [01:58] <@roc> IIRC this is a regression. In what, I'm not sure.
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# [02:00] <gps> roc: what filesystem type is that?
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# [02:01] <@roc> /dev/mapper/fedora-root on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,seclabel,data=ordered)
# [02:01] <@roc> I don't do anything strange :-)
# [02:03] <gps> i dunno
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# [02:03] <@roc> how do we normally guarantee that a .pp file finishes writing before the binary?
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# [02:04] <@roc> ok, how is that .pp file generated?
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# [02:04] <gps> by the compiler
# [02:05] <@roc> so you think host_jskwgen shouldn't depend on host_jskwgen.pp?
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# [02:07] <gps> roc: pastebin or email me the output of |make -d host_jskwgen|
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# [02:09] <@roc> gps: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4384550
# [02:09] <@roc> oh never mind, that got clipped. I'll email you.
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# [02:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/775ed04f9f49 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 975223, part 1 - Make braces less weird in nsRefPtrHashtable. r=froydnj
# [02:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b32d0f94b57 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 967929 - Remove nsSupportsHashtable. r=bsmedberg
# [02:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f39cfbcb4c6 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 975223, part 2 - Add nsRefPtrHashtable::Remove that also does a Get. r=froydnj
# [02:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/36e79221886d - Andrew McCreight - Bug 967941, part 1 - Remove all trailing whitespace from nsJAR.{h,cpp}. r=aklotz
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# [02:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef74212f2e25 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 967941, part 2 - Convert nsZipReaderCache::mZips to use nsRefPtrHashtable. r=aklotz
# [02:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/68c714066b0c - Andrew McCreight - Bug 967941, part 3 - Smart pointerize nsZipReaderCache methods. r=aklotz
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# [02:15] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jedp: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Fx-Team&rev=069f663e7e64&onlyunstarred=1
# [02:15] <KWierso|sheriffduty> and out you go :(
# [02:16] <jedp> KWierso|sheriffduty ok :) thanks so much for kicking those off again. cheers!
# [02:16] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jedp: could only be intermittent on xp pgo
# [02:16] <jedp> KWierso|sheriffduty what does 'pgo' mean?
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# [02:17] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jedp: profile guided optimization http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profile-guided_optimization
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# [02:21] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jwatt: should we be concerned with https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=35176810&tree=Mozilla-Inbound ?
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# [02:21] <jwatt> KWierso|sheriffduty: looking
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# [02:24] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jwatt: looking like we should be concerned :(
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# [02:25] <jwatt> KWierso|sheriffduty: landing fix
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# [02:25] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jwatt: I just closed the tree, so make sure it has CLOSED TREE in it
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# [02:26] <jwatt> KWierso|sheriffduty: another unified build failure fwiw
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# [02:28] <jwatt> KWierso|sheriffduty: pushed
# [02:28] <KWierso|sheriffduty> jwatt: thanks
# [02:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f28160c038f - Jonathan Watt - Bug 975900 follow-up to fix unified build failures. r=me on CLOSED TREE
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# [02:29] <jwatt> that's what I get for addressing review comments on a commit that passed Try
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# [02:36] <sicking> lgarner: ping
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# [02:42] <lgarner> sicking: pong.
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# [02:43] <sicking> lgarner: is there any documentation for the flow of notifications around nfc. I.e. which system messages and events are fired on which app (front-most app, vs app registered through WebActivities etc)
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# [02:44] <lgarner> sicking: Mostly our wiki, and the security review of the message flow. Let me dig that up...
# [02:45] <lgarner> sicking: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Reviews/B2G/WebNFC
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# [02:45] <sicking> lgarner: thanks
# [02:45] <mayhemer> Callek: are you a today m-i sheriff?
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# [02:46] <mayhemer> ok, who is the today m-i sheriff ? :)
# [02:46] <Callek> mayhemer: not-I
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# [02:47] <jld> KWierso|sheriffduty: ^
# [02:47] <mayhemer> jld: are you ? :)
# [02:47] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mayhemer: hi
# [02:47] <mayhemer> err
# [02:47] <nigelb> what do you need?
# [02:47] <mayhemer> KWierso|sheriffduty: hi!
# [02:47] <nigelb> ah, kwierso.
# [02:47] <mayhemer> KWierso|sheriffduty: one question, can I land a DONTBUILD prefonly change on m-i?
# [02:48] <lgarner> sicking: and https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/WebNFC, and ignore the "NFC component" doc on the WebNFC bug, which was from the planning stages of the NFC framework re-write.
# [02:48] <mayhemer> the pref change only and only affect Nighlty users
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# [02:48] <mayhemer> KWierso|sheriffduty: ^^ and here is the patch: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8380355
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# [02:48] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mayhemer: I'll be reopening inbound in about 5 minutes
# [02:49] <mayhemer> KWierso|sheriffduty: ah, cool
# [02:49] <mayhemer> KWierso|sheriffduty: thanks
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# [02:49] <lgarner> sicking: security review is a bit outdated, we replaced nsNfc.cpp with nsNfc.js...
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# [03:00] <mayhemer> KWierso|sheriffduty: so, how does it look?
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# [03:00] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mayhemer: open
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# [03:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53c7d68128b9 - Honza Bambas - Bug 975829 - End the first HTTP cache v2 trial on Nigtly, r=jduell DONTBUILD
# [03:01] <mayhemer> KWierso|sheriffduty: thank you!
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# [03:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f74c9326b89c - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 976247 - Remove a useless static keyword from mozilla::detail::DEAD; r=froydnj
# [03:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d8165293e9b - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 976372 - Remove support for compilers which lack support for dynamic_cast<void*>; r=dbaron
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# [03:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0ce508ce329 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset f74c9326b89c (bug 976247) because I landed the wrong patch :(
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# [03:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7268148d5d6d - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 976247 - Remove a useless static keyword from mozilla::detail::DEAD; r=froydnj
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# [03:07] <@ehsan> KWierso|sheriffduty: is it safe to kill build jobs these days?
# [03:07] <@ehsan> KWierso|sheriffduty: I landed the wrong patch which will turn things orange :(
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# [03:07] <KWierso|sheriffduty> ehsan: no clue :)
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# [03:07] <KWierso|sheriffduty> RyanVM: you around? ^
# [03:08] <@ehsan> KWierso|sheriffduty: hmm... can you ignore any failures on this please? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=8d8165293e9b
# [03:08] <sicking> lgarner: so i'm still confused as to where everything starts. What's the first notification to be sent when the user taps a readable tag for example?
# [03:08] <RyanVM> KWierso|sheriffduty: yo
# [03:08] <@ehsan> and just look at the next push?
# [03:08] <RyanVM> who what in the what now?
# [03:08] <@ehsan> RyanVM: can I kill build jobs?
# [03:08] <@ehsan> on inbound
# [03:08] <RyanVM> builds are safe to kill, yes
# [03:08] <@ehsan> \o/
# [03:08] <@ehsan> thanks
# [03:08] <RyanVM> they will auto-clobber
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# [03:08] <@ehsan> done
# [03:08] <sicking> lgarner: sorry, i'm sure that people have explained this to me in the past. But I forget between the turns and the docs doesn't seem to cover an end-to-end flow
# [03:09] <@ehsan> RyanVM: conveniently I also touched configure.in ;)
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# [03:10] <RyanVM> that doesn't clobber, does it?
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# [03:11] <@ehsan> RyanVM: no... but it rebuilds everything anyways
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# [03:18] <nalexander> Sherrifs, I'm a fool, my last push to fx-team will burn due to a trivial Python test. Pushing follow-up now.
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# [03:18] <lgarner> sicking: I believe the bottom half is fully documented: https://bug897312.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=831587, the app side is TechDiscovered/Lost, readWriteNDEF, and P2P that was added last, and recently. That stuff is done at the API level only.
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# [03:19] <lgarner> sicking: ^documented at the API level only.
# [03:19] <sicking> lgarner: "bottom half"?
# [03:20] <lgarner> sicking: NFCD to Gonk.
# [03:20] <sicking> lgarner: ah
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# [03:20] <sicking> lgarner: that's the stuff on page 9?
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# [03:22] <lgarner> sicking: that's our binary messages communication between NFCD and Gonk (Nfc.js/nfc_worker.js).
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# [03:23] <sicking> lgarner: does that mean "yes" or "no"? :)
# [03:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e75583a0cbbb - Ben Turner - Bug 956218 - '(PBackground) Add a mechanism for communicating with
# [03:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/639a17c98839 - Steve Workman - Bug 956218 - Make sure that all callbacks are called, r=bent.
# [03:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24ca86629095 - Ben Turner - Bug 888974, Add some missing Worker tests.
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# [03:24] <lgarner> sicking: Uh, was there a yes no question I missed?
# [03:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3daaa4c73dd - Wes Kocher - Merge inbound to m-c
# [03:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/418c28891220 - Wes Kocher - Merge m-c to inbound
# [03:25] <sicking> lgarner: "that's the stuff on page 9?"
# [03:26] <sicking> lgarner: i.e. is page 9 what describes the NFCD/Gonk notifications?
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# [03:26] <lgarner> Ah, for some reason I read "what's the.." Yes.
# [03:27] <lgarner> sicking: sorry, my computer is a bit unresponsive (gecko compiling in the back).
# [03:29] <sicking> lgarner: which states can the hidden "no tech" state transition to?
# [03:29] <sicking> lgarner: i take it that "no tech" is the start state?
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# [03:33] <lgarner> sicking: no tech is the start state (after initialization). If a tag or other NFC P2P device approaches, it can transition to TechDiscovered. Not in the doc is the NDEF Record is sent up along with techDiscovered (no connect('NDEF') is needed, since NFCD already grabbed the data).
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# [03:36] <sicking> lgarner: sorry, I don't understand "Not in the doc is the NDEF Record is sent up along with techDiscovered"
# [03:39] <lgarner> sicking: Just a statement about avoiding the long round trip of requiring a connect() before getting the NDEF data. There was talk about delivering the Tag Details as well as the NDEF Record found on the tag, all in one message, with no round trip.
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# [03:41] <sicking> lgarner: Should that say "Note" rather than "Not"? Or is there a word missing somewhere? I'm still confused
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# [03:46] <lgarner> sicking: "Note that.."
# [03:47] <lgarner> sicking: BTW, there's a weekly NFC meeting at 9pm Mondays (Pacific). You are welcome to join, but it's not required for most.
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# [03:48] <sicking> lgarner: ooh
# [03:48] <sicking> lgarner: bummer, i have class that ends right at 9pm. I can cancel for next week, but too late today
# [03:48] <lgarner> sicking: (And i need dinner soon :) )
# [03:48] <sicking> lgarner: yeah
# [03:49] <lgarner> sicking: I sent the invite out, but the berlin guy, and Taipei guys might throw a fit :)
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# [03:49] <lgarner> sicking: if I change the time.
# [03:49] <sicking> lgarner: yeah, don't change on my account, Too many timezones to juggle as is i'm sure
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# [03:50] <bent> sicking, pm me when you're free
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# [03:54] <bjacob_> bent: re: bug 968244, I have no idea what adopt does :-)
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# [04:02] <lgarner> sicking: I'll be on tonight again (or right after the meeting too). If not, see you next time.
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# [04:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86350b7fe15f - Benoit Jacob - Bug 968823 - Make Shmem gracefully handle errors instead of just aborting - r=bent
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# [04:41] <dholbert> glandium, RE "linux debug builds are (still) currently non-unified by default for some reason" on http://glandium.org/blog/?p=3201 -- IIRC that's intentional, so that we have at least one non-unified platform, so that we can be sure not to break non-unified builds
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# [04:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/12661b7737d4 - Brian Smith - Bug 975122: Allow cert error overrides when insanity::pkix is used, r?cviecco, r?keeler
# [04:42] <dholbert> briansmith, did those r?'s want to be r= ? :)
# [04:42] <glandium> dholbert: we have regular non-unified builds on m-i and m-c
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# [04:43] <dholbert> glandium, regular = periodic?
# [04:43] <glandium> dholbert: yes
# [04:43] <glandium> frenchism
# [04:43] <dholbert> glandium, gotcha. I thought I recalled some discussion about making at least one platform non-unified always, so that e.g. you'd be able to catch non-unified bustage on Try
# [04:43] <briansmith> dholbert: yes. I actually put the r?s in there so that the pushes wouldn't work unless/until I changed them
# [04:43] <briansmith> apparently, that strategy doesn't work.
# [04:43] <dholbert> briansmith, yeah, we don't have a hook for r=
# [04:44] <briansmith> regardless, they were both reviewed.
# [04:44] <dholbert> cool :)
# [04:44] <briansmith> ORLY?
# [04:44] <dholbert> yup
# [04:44] <dholbert> you'd think that we do, but we don't
# [04:44] <glandium> dholbert: mmmm
# [04:45] <dholbert> briansmith, IIRC because otherwise, causes people would push with silly things like r=bustage and r=me and r=trivial, on unreviewed stuff
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# [04:45] <dholbert> er *it'd cause people to push
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# [04:45] <briansmith> dholbert: I regularly push NSS updates with r=me.
# [04:46] <dholbert> briansmith, patch written & reviewed by you?
# [04:46] <dholbert> briansmith, or patch written by NSS, r=you?
# [04:46] <dholbert> where NSS is a bunch of folks
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# [04:46] <dholbert> (assuming the latter, I think r=briansmith would be technically more correct)
# [04:46] <briansmith> the result of running "python client.py update_nss <TAG> && hg addremove && hg commit"
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# [04:46] <dholbert> briansmith, in that case, perhaps rs=briansmith :)
# [04:46] <jcranmer> I would use rs= for that
# [04:47] <briansmith> what does "rs" mean?
# [04:47] <dholbert> rubber-stamp
# [04:47] <jcranmer> rubberstamp
# [04:47] <briansmith> interesting.
# [04:47] <dholbert> I didn't actually look at the patch, but I trust that it's sane
# [04:47] <dholbert> er s/look at/fully review/
# [04:47] <jcranmer> firebot: review my patch
# [04:47] <firebot> jcranmer: Your patch looks good. r+sr+ui-r+a=mconnor
# [04:47] <briansmith> I actually do review and build and test usually
# [04:48] <briansmith> not line-by-line, but just to make sure that it makes sense.
# [04:48] <dholbert> cool. maybe r= is appropriate then
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# [04:48] <briansmith> Those updates aren't like my normal pushes to inbound where I have no idea if they will even build.
# [04:48] <dholbert> haha
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# [04:51] <briansmith> Looking at the top couple of pages of TBPL for Mozilla-Inbound, it looks like buildability is not currently a high priority anyway :)
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# [04:55] <philor> yeah, who broke precompile on my windows debug builds?
# [04:55] <philor> ehsan: was that the one you didn't back out?
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# [04:56] <philor> or the DONTBUILD?
# [04:56] <@ehsan> philor: precompile?
# [04:56] <philor> that's a couple of really nice choices!
# [04:56] <philor> ehsan: the startup speedup thing, where it starts up... xpcshell.exe, I think, and you find out as part of the build if we don't run at all
# [04:57] <philor> "Executing c:/builds/moz2_slave/m-in-w32-d-0000000000000000000/build/obj-firefox/dist\bin\xpcshell.exe -g c:\builds\moz2_slave\m-in-w32-d-0000000000000000000\build\obj-firefox\dist\bin/ -a c:\builds\moz2_slave\m-in-w32-d-0000000000000000000\build\obj-firefox\dist\bin/ -f c:/builds/moz2_slave/m-in-w32-d-0000000000000000000/build/toolkit/mozapps/installer\precompile_cache.js -e precompile_startupcache("resource://gre/");"
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# [04:57] <@ehsan> huh
# [04:57] <philor> timed out, 1200 seconds without output
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# [04:57] <@ehsan> it's probably 8d8165293e9b!
# [04:57] <philor> and my choices are "remove support for compilers" or "end the first http cache v2 trial, DONTBUILD"
# [04:57] <@ehsan> let me back it out
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# [04:59] <@ehsan> philor: done, sorry about that!
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# [04:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22d6c5982c53 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 8d8165293e9b (bug 976372) because of Windows debug bustage on a CLOSED TREE
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# [05:00] <philor> looks like bjacob will be up next on the CLOSED TREE hit parade
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# [05:01] <philor> I don't understand the build failure, I don't understand the patch, OFF WITH HIS HEAD
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# [05:04] <philor> hmm, and jwatt mostly-broke a single 10.6 opt reftest?
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# [05:07] <philor> oh, sweet, the b2g build failure is from a merge from m-c which only merged a merge to m-c
# [05:07] <philor> I think I heard someone calling me from Tahiti, brb
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# [05:09] <jcranmer> it's going to take him some time to walk to Tahiti
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# [05:10] <briansmith> walking may not be practical
# [05:10] <bent> philor, that one is me
# [05:10] <philor> bent: yay, thanks!
# [05:10] <RyanVM> and suddenly all's right with the world again
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# [05:11] <briansmith> "remove support for compilers" would be an interesting checkin
# [05:11] <briansmith> I would rs=briansmith that
# [05:11] <philor> as soon as we get the js engine rewritten in js, we'll land it
# [05:11] <jcranmer> remove support for gcc < 4.8 rs=me :-P
# [05:12] <philor> bent: do all three need to come out?
# [05:12] <briansmith> you can't break the build when there's no building to break
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# [05:12] <markh> I picture philor doing tahiti like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLj0FV_ZS74#t=8s
# [05:12] <RyanVM> philor: e75583a0cbbb looks like the winner to me
# [05:12] <philor> yeah, I've always like the "disable all the tests" solution, but just not building would probably work
# [05:13] <Unfocused> we actually do a decent amount of self-hosting these days...
# [05:13] <bent> philor, oh, i just fixed it
# [05:13] <bent> but no, the tests-only patch is totally unrelated
# [05:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/653d606f540c - Ben Turner - Bug 956218 - Fix build bustage for B2G-JB on a CLOSED TREE
# [05:13] <philor> now about jwatt
# [05:14] * briansmith also wears a seatbelt in the bathtub.
# [05:15] <philor> and about the other failures that have suddenly piggybacked on the win8 Bug 919016 thing
# [05:15] <philor> and turned it not-just-PGO
# [05:16] <philor> starting on fx-team
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# [05:17] <philor> meh, goes back to last week, and we should disable that test anyway
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# [05:19] <philor> but I guess since we backed roc out for breaking 745025-1.html the other day, we should back jwatt out too
# [05:20] <philor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=791480#c92
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# [05:20] <philor> bdahl: how's that checking out coming?
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# [05:21] <philor> is that flaky as hell test that we keep backing people out for breaking on other platforms *really* not flaky on other platforms, and they're really breaking things?
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# [05:22] <bdahl> printing code is scary
# [05:22] <philor> that's one of the nicest things anyone has ever said about it
# [05:22] <bdahl> the test shouldn't be flaky it's very simple
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# [05:22] <philor> so https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a109eb551fc probably did break printing on 10.6 opt
# [05:22] <philor> ?
# [05:23] <bdahl> maybe not printing, but mozPrintCallback
# [05:23] <bdahl> if you have a build try printing something with pdf.js
# [05:24] <philor> oh, ffs, we've been misstarring it for quite a while
# [05:24] <bdahl> philor: how so?
# [05:24] <philor> not really a great thing, having an ancient intermittent for one particular failure, if you want to catch other failures
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# [05:24] <philor> bdahl: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=35180322&tree=Mozilla-Inbound is below jwatt
# [05:25] <philor> maybe it's mattwoodrow!
# [05:25] <mattwoodrow> me? break things?
# [05:26] <philor> everybody waiting to push: grab several beers instead
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# [05:28] <RyanVM> philor: if gin and soda works, I'm way ahead of you!
# [05:29] <mattwoodrow> philor: I can't see why my patches would have affected that test
# [05:29] <RyanVM> famous last words
# [05:29] <mattwoodrow> you'd think I would know better
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# [05:30] <philor> I can't see why anybody's anything patch would affect it on 10.6 opt
# [05:30] <mattwoodrow> That seems like a really fragile test
# [05:31] <mattwoodrow> using setTimeout(0)
# [05:31] <philor> though printing is a sausage factory inside a mystery wrapped in a nasty old blanket that probably has smallpox
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# [05:39] <philor> mattwoodrow: how about the b2g reftest-4 and reftest-6 things?
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# [05:41] <philor> though I guess we did, in the days when Win opt was always PGO
# [05:41] <mattwoodrow> philor: Hmm, those ones might be me, yeah
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# [05:46] <philor> spittle-flying red-faced yelling is a question, isn't it?
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# [05:51] <philor> hmm, and you've got an nvidia patch, do we use nvidia drivers on 10.6?
# [05:52] <philor> do we randomly use different drivers on different 10.6 slaves?
# [05:52] <mattwoodrow> philor: The files it touches are only compiled on linux
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# [05:55] <philor> exciting, bunch of new media and webrtc failures up toward the tip
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# [05:59] <philor> bent: does https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=35188220&tree=Mozilla-Inbound look like it might be you?
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# [06:04] <lsblakk> roc, sorry to ping and run, i was looking for an eta for landing bug 946502 on beta
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# [06:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eff307d94044 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out b157f5d0c235 (bug 974197) for b2g reftest-4 and reftest-6 failures
# [06:04] <lsblakk> but it looks like the answer is "not yet" so the beta must go on
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# [06:06] <philor> somebody, I say somebody, is looking like their test is not going to make it as far as beta
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# [06:07] <bent> philor, no, not really... haven't i seen that signature in another bug recently?
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# [06:24] <philor> oh, goodie, there's a 10.8 reftest failure, just much lower frequency with it
# [06:25] <philor> must just require some slow for the race condition
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# [06:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/511bf49b8afb - ffxbld - Added FENNEC_28_0b6_RELEASE FENNEC_28_0b6_BUILD1 tag(s) for changeset fcca34520a94. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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# [06:39] <philor> why did my push of aurora to try fail a mozbuild android_eclipse test?
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# [06:40] <philor> do we run just completely random things on completely random repos and completely random non-deleted objdirs on try?
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# [06:42] <dougt> anyone want to push something to m-i for rbarnes? bug 936340.
# [06:42] <stuart> r+
# [06:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/63efb2b87c92 - Chris Pearce - Bug 634747 - Set MediaQueue's to Finished() when we reach end of stream while decoding after seeking and while finding first frame. r=kinetik
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# [06:44] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=35181033&tree=Try
# [06:45] <philor> it...
# [06:45] <philor> my Win64 build is orange from a bunch of java.lang.NullPointerExceptions?
# [06:46] <philor> oh, yeah, I stopped looking at hidden jobs, I bet that mozversion crud broke it on m-c too
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# [06:56] <philor> nalexander: is there a sensible explanation for https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=35169171&tree=Try when I pushed aurora?
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# [06:59] <nalexander> philor: sure looks like only part of the relevant things got uplifted.
# [06:59] <philor> oh, did some of it get uplifted? I searched mxr for random things and didn't find any
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# [07:00] <nalexander> philor: actually, none of it should be on Aurora yet. I think.
# [07:00] <nalexander> philor: somehow you're running a test where the actual code hasn't landed.
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# [07:00] <philor> yeah, that was what I thought, which makes it look like try is just building random things on top of other random things
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# [07:01] <nalexander> philor: yeah, I wonder if it's picking up a bad test directory, or an old .pyc.
# [07:01] <nalexander> philor: but isn't try always clobber?
# [07:01] <philor> that's the theory
# [07:02] <nalexander> philor: I'd have to check out your branch to understand the state of the tree, and I can't do that tonight.
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# [07:02] <philor> that same slave failed the debug build it did before me, and the debug build it did after me
# [07:02] <glandium> philor: same error?
# [07:02] <philor> after was, lemme find before
# [07:03] <glandium> philor: well... https://hg.mozilla.org/try/file/2694017144a9/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/backend
# [07:03] <glandium> philor: your push doesn't have the android_eclipse.py file
# [07:03] <philor> glandium: no surprise there, since it's a push from aurora
# [07:04] <glandium> philor: i thought it was a push of m-c as aurora
# [07:04] <philor> nope, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=2694017144a9 is aurora as beta
# [07:04] <glandium> oh, it's running the test for android_eclipse
# [07:05] <glandium> i think i know what's up
# [07:05] <glandium> let me check
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# [07:06] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=e0d305689e96 appears to be what started that slave on the road to ruin
# [07:06] <glandium> Stale file handle: '/repo/hg/mozilla/try/.hg/store/phaseroots yum yum
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# [07:08] <philor> speaking of stale, that push's parent is from February 1
# [07:08] <glandium> but that triggered a full unbundle
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# [07:08] <glandium> another fuck up from try reset?
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# [07:08] <glandium> combined with hg purge?
# [07:09] <glandium> philor: do you have the power to isolate that slave?
# [07:09] <philor> glandium: nope
# [07:09] <glandium> or is someone around that has?
# [07:09] <philor> well, I can disable it, cause it to not take any more jobs after whatever it might be doing now
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# [07:09] <glandium> philor: that'd be good already
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# [07:10] <glandium> philor: and file a bug blocking 969689
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# [07:11] <nalexander> glandium: if you look at the push that landed that test, it also landed the code for the test. The error sure looks like that code is missing.
# [07:11] <glandium> nalexander: that error looks like the .pyc for that test is still there
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# [07:11] <glandium> or something like that
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# [07:11] <nalexander> glandium: that's possible. But the clobber should address that... oh no, .pyc in $srcdir.
# [07:12] <nalexander> glandium: that was what I was thinking above ^
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# [07:12] <glandium> nalexander: hg purge is supposed to remove that, but with hg share, try reset and all...
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# [07:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb02c9e3db0a - Mike Hommey - Bug 973144 - Support DEFINES['FOO']=False in moz.build for -UFOO. r=gps
# [07:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/09cd0c7f8d94 - Mike Shal - Bug 974205 - Enable sccache for Android try builds. r=glandium
# [07:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8cb85ffb2c15 - Mike Shal - Bug 974205 - Use --with-compiler-wrapper when enabling sccache. r=glandium
# [07:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29cfe52e604c - Mike Shal - Bug 974205 - Use mozconfig.cache in android mozconfigs. r=glandium
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# [07:52] <glandium> glob: ping
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# [07:53] <glob> glandium, pong
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# [07:53] <glandium> glob: hey, didn't you say the comment/preview thing on the new bug page was fixed?
# [07:53] <glob> glandium, yeah... but it's broken in the not-mozilla skins
# [07:54] <glob> glandium, i have a patch up for review to fix that
# [07:54] <glandium> aaaah that'd explain
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# [07:54] <glandium> i'm on the classic skin
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# [07:54] <glob> i'm sorry to hear that
# [07:54] <glob> :)
# [07:54] <glandium> why?
# [07:54] <glob> it looks .. bad
# [07:55] <glandium> last time i tried the mozilla skin it was less useful
# [07:55] <glandium> than the classic skin
# [07:55] <glob> glandium, too much whitespace for you?
# [07:56] <glob> (i'm not really fussed, we keep the old skins around for a reason!)
# [07:56] <glandium> i don't remember, it was a long while ago
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# [07:56] <glandium> let me give it a try
# [07:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2fcc1dea688 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 975387 Notify TextComposition instance of that nsIMEStateManager stops managing it r=smaug, sec-a=abillings
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# [08:03] <glandium> glob: at least it looks better than in my recollection of it
# [08:03] <glob> :)
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# [08:17] <briansmith> FYI, I did a local Windows debug build from a recent mozilla-inbound pull and xpcshell is abort()ing
# [08:17] <briansmith> I am bisecting it now. Narrowed down to 30 changesets
# [08:19] <briansmith> BTW, this bisecting would have been basically impossible without the build speed improvements of the last few months
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# [08:23] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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# [08:34] <jesup> gps++
# [08:35] <jesup> (briansmith's comment)
# [08:35] <glandium> jesup: don't forget ehsan and myself
# [08:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c1eb349d342 - John Daggett - Bug 975460 - check for null CTFontRef after creation. r=jfkthame
# [08:36] <Ms2ger> glandium++
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# [08:36] <jesup> ehsan++
# [08:36] <jesup> pluses for you and you, and pluses for everyone!
# [08:38] <jesup> seriously: huge improvements, and it's stabilized from what I've seen (less "god, that needs clobbers" recently)
# [08:39] <tobiski> Hi, can someone give me a hand? I'm trying to make a recording program with web audio api and I have special sound device made for the project. Problem is that when I try to use analyser node to analyse the data the microphone listens, it returns 127-128 as if the microphone didn't hear anything. It doesn't matter if I use the spesific device or headset microphone. On chrome and opera it works fine. Here's the link to the site: http://tobiski
# [08:39] <jesup> Got back all the build perf we'd lost (to new code and other things) in the last 1.5 years
# [08:39] <jesup> and more
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# [08:41] <jesup> tobiski: you should ask in #media. That said: most of the people who work on web audio are in Paris and New Zealand (padenot and karlt)
# [08:42] <tobiski> jesup: ok, i'll have a look
# [08:43] <jesup> tobiski: also that URL is invalid
# [08:43] <yeukhon> can regular user tell whether someone is banned from bugzilla or not?
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# [08:43] <tobiski> how come?
# [08:43] <tobiski> works for me
# [08:43] <glob> yeukhon, no, i don't think that's possible
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# [08:43] <glob> yeukhon, .. from within the bugzilla UI
# [08:44] <glob> yeukhon, is there someone you want me to check?
# [08:47] <glob> yeukhon, it _is_ possible via the API, as long as you're making an authenticated request
# [08:48] <glob> eg. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/rest/user?names=glob@mozilla.com&login=you@example.com&password=secret
# [08:48] <yeukhon> glob: thanks! no i think i'd pass having an official check. he seems like an old member and known so i dont think hes banned. for a second i thought of him with another new account.
# [08:49] <yeukhon> ah that's a nice api :3
# [08:50] <yeukhon> does this only work with non-persona account?
# [08:51] <glob> yeukhon, correct. persona isn't designed for api authentication, so you can't use it for that
# [08:51] <yeukhon> ah okay. >_< this mean i can't check hahaha
# [08:51] <yeukhon> it's cool
# [08:51] <glob> yeukhon, you can use bugzilla's "forgot password" mechanism to set a password on your account however
# [08:51] <glob> and still be able to log in with persona afterwards
# [08:51] <yeukhon> glob: so i will have two passwords. but bugilla knows the 2nd one
# [08:52] <yeukhon> yet persona IdP has the other one
# [08:52] <glob> yup.
# [08:52] <glob> or create another account :)
# [08:52] <yeukhon> *better off with a new account if i want to use api*
# [08:53] <yeukhon> yeah probably a better idea :)
# [08:53] <glob> if you're using gmail, you don't need a new email address..
# [08:53] <yeukhon> no non gmail
# [08:53] <yeukhon> using acm alias email
# [08:53] <glob> test@gmail.com and test+something@gmail.com both get delivered to the same account
# [08:53] <glob> :)
# [08:54] <yeukhon> yeah that's helpful :) thanks glob
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# [09:05] <glandium> glob: does the mozilla skin force smaller fonts, or is the classic skin that forced bigger fonts?
# [09:05] <Ms2ger> dbaron, does the geo charter let them publish errata to Geolocation v1?
# [09:05] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, I don't know. Does it?
# [09:05] <Ms2ger> I was hoping you'd know :)
# [09:06] <Ms2ger> mike5w3c, do you know? :)
# [09:06] <Ms2ger> (http://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2008%2Fgeolocation%2Fcharter%2Fcharter-2&doc2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2014%2F02%2Fgeo-charter.html)
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# [09:07] <glob> glandium, the computed font-size is the same in both skins (font-size: small)
# [09:07] <glandium> glob: that's not possible
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# [09:08] <glandium> glob: seriously, all but the comments are way smaller in mozilla skin
# [09:08] <glob> glandium, oh, comments? i was looking at the general font size
# [09:08] <glandium> glob: all *but* comments
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# [09:09] <glandium> comments are maybe the same size
# [09:09] <glandium> everything else is smaller
# [09:09] <glob> hehe.
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# [09:09] <glandium> or maybe the comments are bigger and everything else looks smaller as a consequence
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# [09:09] <glandium> screenshot time
# [09:09] <glob> glandium, not sure what else to say here
# [09:10] <glob> glandium, both the css code and the inspector tell me they are both 13px
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# [09:10] <glob> glandium, obviously different font faces have different sizes
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# [09:11] <mike5w3c> Ms2ger: I wish I could claim I know. Not really sure what the rules are. At any given time there are actually any number of WGs whose charters have expired. I think the CSS WG charter is expired, for one. I think the PFWG charter expired six months ago. So I guess as far as the rules go, those groups aren't actually formerly chartered to do anything right now.
# [09:11] <glob> glandium, classic uses 'verdana', which is large in comparison with most other fonts
# [09:11] <Ms2ger> mike5w3c, the CSSWG's always sees to be expired :)
# [09:11] <Ms2ger> seems*
# [09:12] <mike5w3c> yeah
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# [09:12] <Ms2ger> mike5w3c, just trying to avoid being stonewalled based on the charter
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# [09:13] <glandium> glob: computed font size for selects is 14.66px here with classic and 12px with mozilla
# [09:14] <glandium> glob: comment dates are 13px with classic and 12px with mozilla
# [09:14] <mike5w3c> Ms2ger: I see. Well lemme know if I can help. As far as the Geolocation WG my impression is there biggest problem is they have nobody who's planning to edit, and not implementors planning to implement anything new. But dougt probably knows a lot more
# [09:14] <Ms2ger> Yeah, dom actually kindly replied, I haven't had time to re-reply
# [09:15] <glandium> comments themselves are 12px with classic and 13px with mozilla
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# [09:19] <glandium> glob: for comments, classic uses font-size: medium
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# [09:34] <briansmith> froydnj: ping
# [09:34] <briansmith> It seems that the patch for bug 976247 is what is causing my local xpcshell tests to abort
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# [09:34] <briansmith> I would like to back it (cset f74c9326b89c) out now
# [09:36] <glandium> briansmith: see comment 5 in that bug
# [09:36] <glandium> briansmith: that changeset was backed out already
# [09:36] <glandium> because it was not the patch for that bug
# [09:36] <briansmith> glandium: I see.
# [09:37] <briansmith> glandium: but, I'm sure my pull --rebase was after that backout
# [09:37] <briansmith> and my builds still are crashing in TraceRefCnt stuff
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# [09:37] <glandium> briansmith: maybe that relanded i don't know
# [09:38] <glandium> no, it doesn't seem to have
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# [09:40] <briansmith> OK, I will figure out what is going on
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# [09:41] <glazou> bonjour
# [09:42] <nigelb> Morning glazou
# [09:42] <glandium> oh the facepalm... i pushed to try forgetting to hg qref...
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# [09:43] <glandium> glazou: bon matin
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# [09:45] <glazou> :)
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# [10:09] <briansmith> glandium: it seems another backout that Ehsan did cleared the problem.
# [10:09] <briansmith> so, all is good.
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# [11:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b43455151bca - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 922107 - Add test for pref to hide the "missing plugin" notifications. r=jaws
# [11:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45dda3851224 - Willian Gustavo Veiga - Bug 922107 - Add pref to hide the "missing plugin" notifications. r=jaws
# [11:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d1aabc16a1b - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 968762 - Plugin overlays are not displayed if plugin element is not fully in scroll view. r=jaws
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# [12:07] <RealRaven> a quick question on fixIterator(accounts, Ci.nsIMsgAccount) will it throw an error when leaving out the second parameter?
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# [12:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54cb87ffa81b - Nathan Froyd - Bug 970504 - make JS_CLASS_MEMBERS useful in more places; r=jorendorff
# [12:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5bdecc9baac - Nathan Froyd - Bug 970498 - remove unnecessary padding in JSClass and js::Class; r=Waldo
# [12:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c78dc7394594 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 976161 - delete dead NSCAP_DISABLE_TEST_DONTQUERY_CASES code; r=bsmedberg
# [12:35] <Ms2ger> ... a select few of our platforms, e.g., QNX.
# [12:35] <froydnj> indeed
# [12:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8357ee9066a8 - Dan Minor - Bug 976306 - mozversion missing from config/mozbase_requirements.txt; r=wlach
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# [12:36] <froydnj> I want to get rid of the AIX-only bit in nsCOMPtr.h too, but I don't know if we care about AIX anymore
# [12:36] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: why did you file another bug about browser_panel_toggle.js ? :(
# [12:36] <Ms2ger> Well, QNX is "an extraordinary piece of software".
# [12:36] <Ms2ger> According to PC Magazine in April 1983
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# [12:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm Gijs i guess the other bugs/ test failure were different
# [12:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> not ?
# [12:39] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I'm not sure. I've not seen it fail outside of Linux.
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# [12:40] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: and there's a bug on file for that already, whose summary just needs updating
# [12:40] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: that combined with all the other bugs means that stars just get spread out
# [12:40] <Gijs> and I have no idea if we recently fixed something there, made it worse, or it's just a steady stream of "hello, panels on Linux are sucky, deal with it" :(
# [12:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
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# [12:43] <Gijs> edmorley++
# [12:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5cfcff375329 - Jacek Caban - Bug 971822 - Fix string_util.h combined with strsafe.h on mingw. r=glandium
# [12:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17c0f29d7008 - Jacek Caban - Bug 975740 - Fixed typo in testing/tools/screenshot/moz.build
# [12:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c4e8fca7cc5 - Jacek Caban - Bug 663740 - char16_t/wchar_t mismatch fixup.
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# [12:48] <NeilAway> gfritzsche: so you have to rename the pref now it's a popup rather than a bar?
# [12:49] <gfritzsche> NeilAway: i didn't really think about that... but it's a somewhat different feature now
# [12:49] <gfritzsche> PFS vs. notification icon for a small set of plugins
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# [12:53] <edmorley> Gijs: :-)
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# [14:00] <hsivonen> Pike: do we have an easy way to search across l10n repos of old releases in this fashion: https://mxr.mozilla.org/l10n-mozilla-release/search?string=intl.charset.default&find=intl.properties ?
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# [14:05] <Pike> hsivonen: nope, that'd require an mxr instance per release :-/
# [14:05] <Pike> from how I recall that code works
# [14:05] <hsivonen> Pike: OK. I won't bother then. Thanks.
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# [14:07] <nbp> paul: https://github.com/nbp/arewefastyet/blob/master/driver/b2g-benchmark.sh#L239
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# [14:10] <hsivonen> Pike: btw, do the "update from Pootle" landings go through some kind of review?
# [14:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4a5fe646f27 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 974356 - 2/4 - add an IsSameProcess method to ISurfaceAllocator - r=nical
# [14:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/490d3e8706c3 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 974356 - 1/4 - Initialize mOtherProcess to an invalid handle value - r=bent
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# [14:14] <Pike> hsivonen: yes, but I don't know which, and how consistent.
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# [14:24] <hsivonen> Pike: I just noticed that Armenian has broken its fallback encoding and Traditional Chinese tried to fix it but failed to do so properly. Firefox 28 will fix these. I wonder if I should try to get Firefox 27 fixed or just wait for 28 to ship.
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# [14:29] <hsivonen> Pike: Armenian breaking itself even shows up on telemetry. Users trying to cope. :-(
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# [14:30] <Pike> I don't expect us to respin or even ride-along those
# [14:31] <hsivonen> Pike: ok
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# [14:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0cea4bded6f8 - Richard Barnes - Bug 936340 - Implement navigator.sendBeacon. r=sicking
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# [14:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec50b53150ca - Rik Cabanier - Bug 966591 - Part 5: Pass hit bounds to a11y code. r=surkov
# [14:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1e64b0a7271 - Rik Cabanier - Bug 966591 - Part 2: Validate input to AddHitRegion. Provide partial implementation. r=roc
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# [15:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm RyanVM i guesss one of your pushed for rik caused https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=35216272&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [15:54] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: erm, no
# [15:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: oh now its https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0cea4bded6f8
# [15:54] <RyanVM> more likely 0cea4bded6f8
# [15:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> faster :P
# [15:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
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# [15:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> shall i back it out ?
# [15:55] <RyanVM> cabanier's been snakebitten enough by that patch, no need to scare him more ;P
# [15:55] <RyanVM> yes please
# [15:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok will do :)
# [15:55] <RyanVM> danke
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# [15:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/adcc61aa0615 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 0cea4bded6f8 (bug 936340) for mochitest-3 bustage on a CLOSED TREE
# [15:59] <@khuey> anybody around who will claim to understand SFINAE?
# [15:59] <Ms2ger> No
# [16:00] <froydnj> only under extreme duress
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# [16:01] <froydnj> I think the new CEO has promised to close Mozilla Gitmo
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# [16:03] <shrihari> Is Florian around here?
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# [16:06] <@smaug> shrihari: which Florian
# [16:06] <@smaug> flo-retina perhaps
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# [16:07] <shrihari> Florian Quèze.
# [16:07] <@smaug> flo-retina then
# [16:08] <@smaug> (or based on phonebook, flo or florian too )
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# [16:08] <flo-retina> shrihari: hello?
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# [16:09] <shrihari> flo-retina, Hello. Wanted to talk about an InstantBird project, for GSoC
# [16:09] <gcp> <khuey> anybody around who will claim to understand SFINAE?
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# [16:09] <flo-retina> shrihari: ok, the best channel is #instantbird then
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# [16:09] <gcp> that's like asking for an "autotools expert"
# [16:10] * froydnj can claim to be that too, under duress
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# [16:10] <gcp> confessions under torture are not reliable
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# [16:11] <froydnj> there are no autotools experts; there's only a long line of copy-and-pasters
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# [16:12] <gcp> imagine if there were. They'd look similar to the gnomes who write C++ template metaprogramming code.
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# [16:13] <gcp> Rumored to exist in the wild, but never encountered.
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# [16:42] <gfritzsche> khuey: what's the problem?
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# [16:45] <@khuey> gfritzsche: for the SFINAE thing?
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# [16:46] <gfritzsche> khuey: yes
# [16:47] <gfritzsche> been a bit, but i used to use it quite a bit
# [16:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/758fef09a727 - Luke Wagner - Bug 976054 - Fix XDR to store script->nslots_ with a uint32_t (r=wingo)
# [16:47] <@khuey> gfritzsche: https://khuey.pastebin.mozilla.org/4390555
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# [16:47] <@khuey> gfritzsche: the interesting part is ArgumentToJSVal
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# [16:48] <@khuey> gfritzsche: if I pass an NS_LITERAL_STRING to it I would expect it to bind to the const nsAString& overload
# [16:48] <@khuey> gfritzsche: but it binds to the other, which fails to compile somewhere inside WrapNewBindingObject
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# [16:50] <@ehsan> hmm
# [16:50] <@ehsan> const nsLiteralString& is a const nsAString&, right?
# [16:51] <@khuey> yes
# [16:51] <@khuey> nsLiteralString inherits from nsString, IIRC
# [16:51] <@ehsan> yeah I just checked
# [16:52] <@khuey> I expected the T& version to fail to compile
# [16:52] <@ehsan> but wait, aren't implicit conversions might be less preferable than overloads?
# [16:52] <@khuey> at which point it would SFINAE it and use the string one
# [16:53] <@ehsan> well
# [16:53] <@ehsan> khuey: T can be const nsLiteralString
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# [16:53] <@khuey> ehsan: sure
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# [16:54] <@khuey> clearly I don't understand how this is supposed to work, so you might need to spell things out -)
# [16:54] <@ehsan> khuey: SFINAE means that in some cases, the compiler will not pick a template for overload resolution if there is an error instantiating the template
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# [16:55] <@ehsan> in this case, the compiler will be able to successfully instantiate the template
# [16:55] <@ehsan> so that's what it will pick
# [16:55] <@khuey> but it doesn't compile
# [16:55] <@khuey> is that not the same as successfully instantiate?
# [16:55] <@ehsan> khuey: what's the error message?
# [16:55] <@ehsan> depends
# [16:55] <@khuey> it dies inside WrapNewBindingObject
# [16:55] <@ehsan> I bet the error is outside that function
# [16:56] <@khuey> what we try to call ->WrapObject on a string
# [16:56] <@ehsan> yeah
# [16:56] <@khuey> *when
# [16:56] <gfritzsche> well, the template instantiates fine, errors afterwards are irrelevant for SFINAE
# [16:56] <@khuey> ok, so it only looks at the first level?
# [16:56] <@ehsan> SFINAE is only about instantiating that template function itself
# [16:56] <@ehsan> yep
# [16:56] <@khuey> ok
# [16:56] <@khuey> that makes sense
# [16:56] <@khuey> even if it is annoying
# [16:56] <@ehsan> if you want to use SFINAE here you need an additional argument I think
# [16:56] <@ehsan> well
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# [16:57] <gfritzsche> why does it need sfinae here?
# [16:57] <gfritzsche> can overload resolution not resolve things here?
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# [16:58] <gfritzsche> (kind of still looking around the types here, so i might miss obvious things)
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# [16:58] <@ehsan> overload resolution will pick the template function
# [16:58] <@ehsan> because it can be instantiated
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# [16:58] <gfritzsche> what about specializing the template?
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# [16:58] <gfritzsche> most specific one should get picked then for nsAString?
# [16:59] <@khuey> so the reason I need a template is because I want the wrap overload to accept any DOM object
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# [16:59] <@ehsan> khuey: so here's a solution
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# [17:00] <@ehsan> add a second argument of this type:
# [17:00] <@khuey> and we need to preserve the type information (e.g. not cast to a base class) for WrapNewBindingObject
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# [17:00] <@ehsan> EnableIf<!IsConst<T>::value, int>::Type dummy = 0
# [17:01] <@ehsan> EnableIf will only resolve Type as a typename if its first argument is true
# [17:01] <@ehsan> this will mean that the compiler won't be able to instantiate the method for const types
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# [17:01] <@ehsan> of course you should modify the condition to match whatever it is you want it to be
# [17:01] <@ehsan> !IsConst is an example
# [17:02] <@khuey> ok
# [17:02] <bz> Do we have something tracking our disabled tests?
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# [17:02] <@ehsan> bz: no
# [17:02] <bz> because at this point we have enough tests disabled that I'm no longer confident in our testing at all
# [17:02] <@ehsan> khuey: let me know if you hit any more problems
# [17:02] <@khuey> what I really want is "inherits wrapper cache and nsISupports, I think"
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# [17:02] <bz> c.f. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=975824#c3
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# [17:02] <@ehsan> bz: it's impossible to defend tests these days :/
# [17:02] <@khuey> which should be doable with IsBaseOf and some magic
# [17:02] <bz> And the fact that we disabled all the W3c DOM test suites
# [17:02] <@ehsan> khuey: yes
# [17:02] <bz> well, so we have a problem
# [17:02] <bz> because there is no visibility into what's disabled
# [17:03] <@ehsan> bz: we sure do
# [17:03] <bz> so I have no idea what we have coverage of. :(
# [17:03] <@khuey> RyanVM|brb: ^
# [17:03] <@ehsan> bz: this information is spread across manifests, comments perhaps in old makefiles, b2g.json and friends, etc
# [17:04] <bz> right
# [17:04] <bz> I'm not even talking about the b2g disaster
# [17:04] <bz> I'm talking about desktop
# [17:04] <@ehsan> khuey: err, you want to prefix that argument with the typename keyword, so that the compiler knows that ::Type is a type name
# [17:04] <@khuey> did you know that we don't test SSL on b2g?
# [17:04] <@khuey> at all
# [17:04] <bz> No, but I'm not surprised.
# [17:04] * @khuey was happy to discover that yesterday
# [17:04] <@ehsan> bz: fwiw I've tried to defend some of our tests by fixing them before they get disabled, but only in my spare time :/
# [17:04] <bz> ehsan: well, so
# [17:05] <@ehsan> khuey: seriously?
# [17:05] <bz> RyanVM: ping
# [17:05] <Ms2ger> SSL implementations are all perfect anyway
# [17:05] <@ehsan> that is very scary
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# [17:05] <bz> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=4455c4b510cc
# [17:05] <bz> This is with the DOM test suites reenabled
# [17:06] <bz> _very_ rare, totally undebuggable timeouts
# [17:06] <reuben> if you don't test your ssl implementation: goto fail;
# [17:06] <bz> But the tests are disabled for those timeouts, apparently?
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# [17:06] <@khuey> ehsan: what could possibly go wrong?
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# [17:07] <@ehsan> bz: you should re-enable these tests then
# [17:07] <@khuey> it's not like b2g has a completely separate networking stack or anything
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# [17:07] <@khuey> oh wait ...
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# [17:07] <@ehsan> khuey: can you tell me more about why we don't test TLS there?
# [17:07] <@ehsan> I assume it's not intentional?
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# [17:07] <@khuey> ehsan: 907770
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# [17:09] <@ehsan> khuey: :(
# [17:09] <@ehsan> I _thought_ this was fixed ages ago
# [17:09] <@khuey> indeed
# [17:09] <philor> bz: you should find someone to rewrite the harness to just rerun failures until they pass
# [17:09] <cabanier> RyanVM|brb: that was a close one! :-)
# [17:09] <bz> philor: hrm
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# [17:10] <philor> well, except that they aren't failures, they are hangs
# [17:10] <froydnj> anybody know of some ogg-using pages I can use for ogg testing?
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# [17:10] <@ehsan> bz: but seriously speaking, I don't think you should ask for anyone's permission to re-enable those tests, I think that failure rate is well below our threshold for tolerating oranges
# [17:10] <bz> philor: yeah
# [17:10] <philor> so someone to rewrite the harness so it doesn't kill the browser, or the browser so it doesn't die
# [17:10] <bz> ehsan: yeah, ryanvm claims they failed more often in real life?
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# [17:11] <Ms2ger> They certainly failed a lot
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# [17:11] <@ehsan> bz: the thing is, we disable tests just because they fail
# [17:11] <padenot> froydnj: like, a page with a <audio src=blah.ogg> ?
# [17:11] <@ehsan> bz: we have no reason to believe there is anythign wrong with the tests
# [17:11] <bz> ehsan: yup
# [17:11] <@ehsan> bz: so in a lot of cases we disable tests because of real bugs
# [17:11] <@ehsan> which may get resolved later
# [17:11] <philor> and there's a difference between failing where someone might look at it, and failing totally unowned where nobody will even go so far as to say that they won't look at it
# [17:11] <@ehsan> but the tests remain disabled
# [17:11] <@ehsan> philor: yeah, we need a better process for that...
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# [17:12] <froydnj> padenot: yeah, just something so that the browser loads an ogg and keeps it around
# [17:12] <@ehsan> but in the mean time, it's an arms race between developers and sheriffs I'm afraid :(
# [17:12] <padenot> froydnj: http://paul.cx/public/z.ogg
# [17:12] <@ehsan> whoever can show the tests do fail very often on trunk wins
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# [17:13] <froydnj> padenot: cool, thanks!
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# [17:14] <Ms2ger> I'd love to see a run with all the tests that we disabled for intermittent failures
# [17:14] <Ms2ger> Anyone want to guess if it'd have more or less than 50 failures?
# [17:14] <philor> you'd have to rewrite harnesses
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# [17:15] <philor> since part of the reason we disable some things seemingly arbitrarily too soon is because they hang and take down the harness or crash and take down the harness
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# [17:18] <bz> philor: The DOM tests are not taking down the harness
# [17:18] <Ms2ger> They're taking down the browser
# [17:19] <philor> bz: guess I got confused by the last orange on the 10.6 opt line
# [17:19] <Ms2ger> Oh, and
# [17:19] <Ms2ger> Why does test_HTMLTableElement03.html time out 4 times?
# [17:19] <philor> the one where dom-level1-core/test_characterdatagetlength.html timed out after 330 seconds without output and took down the run
# [17:20] <philor> 4 times is usually bug 942543
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# [17:21] <philor> oh, the other thing your rewrite to run ALL THE DISABLED THINGS would have to do is get rid of the far too subtle "4 tests timed out, giving up" thing
# [17:22] <philor> since we just show that as 4 failures, rather than T-FAIL
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# [17:24] <@ehsan> hmm, it's really hard to follow what these tests try to do
# [17:24] <@ehsan> given the number of levels of abstraction :/
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# [17:25] <RyanVM|brb> bz: fwiw, there's been talk in the ATeam too about better tracking disabled tests
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# [17:32] <RyanVM> bz: replied to your email
# [17:33] <bz> RyanVM: thanks
# [17:33] <RyanVM> bz: but I'm really tired of "it doesn't happen often so it's not our problem" seemingly being the norm around here
# [17:34] <RyanVM> bz: and the only answer I seem to be hearing is "deal with it"
# [17:34] <RyanVM> (yes, I read the scrollback)
# [17:35] <NeilAway> khuey: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4390935 might work
# [17:35] <bz> RyanVM: I'm working on figuring out what's up with the DOM tests
# [17:35] <bz> RyanVM: and I do understand your viewpoint here.
# [17:35] <bz> RyanVM: hence my proposal.
# [17:35] <RyanVM> bz: not sure if it'll help, but roc fixed the imptests misbehaving
# [17:35] <bz> RyanVM: I guess I just said all that, at more length, in the email....
# [17:35] <RyanVM> but some changes in the harness
# [17:35] <bz> RyanVM: oh? bug#?
# [17:35] <RyanVM> not sure if it's relevant to these
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# [17:36] <rbarnes> can somebody point me to an intro on JS wrappers, rooted, handle, compartments, etc? having a lot of trouble grokking how this stuff works.
# [17:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a8a8a73df71 - Bobby Holley - Bug 976151 - Anti eval/Function() check during wrapping should use |subsumes|. r=gabor
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# [17:36] <bz> rbarnes: Those are separate concerns, fwiw
# [17:36] <bz> rbarnes: rooted/handle are about gc, wrappers/compartments is about security...
# [17:36] <bz> rbarnes: Why are you having to deal with this, if I might as?
# [17:37] <bz> er, ask
# [17:37] * bz views it as a failure when someone has to deal with this stuff
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# [17:37] <rbarnes> bz: WebIDL + Promise + Typed Arrays for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865789
# [17:37] <bz> rbarnes: I'm not sure compartments are documented anywhere useful....
# [17:37] <bz> Ah, typed arrays. :(
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# [17:37] <bz> And promises, even more sadfaces, ok.
# [17:38] <rbarnes> yeah, trying to return an ABV through a Promise :( :( :(
# [17:38] <Ms2ger> bz, that was Aryeh's tests that created a million iframes
# [17:38] <Ms2ger> bz, and he made them use just one
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# [17:38] <bz> rbarnes: lemme see if I can find you some links
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# [17:38] <bz> rbarnes: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/SpiderMonkey/GC_Rooting_Guide
# [17:39] <bz> man
# [17:39] <bz> devmo is being super slow
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# [17:39] <@smaug> and mxr
# [17:39] <@smaug> oh, mxr isn't as slow
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# [17:40] <@smaug> rbarnes: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/public/RootingAPI.h is also useful
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# [17:40] <bz> rbarnes: that rooting guide should cover rooted/handle
# [17:40] <RyanVM> bz: aha - bug 933072
# [17:40] <RyanVM> bz: again, that might be completely irrelevant
# [17:40] <RyanVM> but on the off chance...
# [17:40] <bz> ryanvm: right
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# [17:41] <bz> yeah, this doesn't look relevant to the fails we're seeing here
# [17:41] <rbarnes> bz: thanks. think the problem is more with compartments, because i'm currently crashing in js::assertSameCompartment :)
# [17:41] <bz> rbarnes: yeah
# [17:41] <bz> rbarnes: So compartments
# [17:41] <bz> rbarnes: let me see if we have docs...
# [17:41] <Ms2ger> rbarnes, good!
# [17:41] <RyanVM> bz: that was basically leading to oom/fragmentation issues
# [17:41] <bz> rbarnes: if not, we'll write up something
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# [17:41] <Ms2ger> rbarnes, if you weren't crashing, that was a sg-crit :)
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# [17:42] <rbarnes> ms2ger: heh. well, the hope is to get things in the right compartments to avoid that
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# [17:44] <rbarnes> bz: the proximate question is what to put in the second argument to Uint8Array::Create() so that it ends up with the right compartment for Promise::MaybeResolve (for a Uint8Array and Promise both created by window.crypto.subtle.digest())
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# [17:45] <RyanVM> bz: i'll do the debug-only re-enabling
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# [17:45] <NeilAway> khuey: see also http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14797303/template-specialization-and-derived-classes-in-c
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# [17:49] <jgraham> So we have test harnesses that can't cope if the browser sometimes crashes/hangs?
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# [17:52] <@khuey> vlad: welcome to my world of WTF
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# [17:53] <bz> rbarnes: Read https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/SpiderMonkey/SpiderMonkey_compartments ?
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# [17:53] <bz> rbarnes: and http://bholley.wordpress.com/2012/05/04/at-long-last-compartment-per-global/ ?
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# [17:54] <bz> rbarnes: not sure which parts of compartments are being confusing....
# [17:54] <edmorley|sheriffduty> gps: there's orange on your inbound push - might it perhaps need a one-off clobber?
# [17:54] <bz> rbarnes: hmm
# [17:54] <edmorley|sheriffduty> gps: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1&rev=2912b402523d
# [17:54] <bz> rbarnes: Just saw your question about Create()
# [17:54] <rbarnes> bz: it's mainly that i just have zero context, and the obvious candidates for Uint8Array::Create() aren't working
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# [17:54] <bz> rbarnes: yeah, reading your proximate question bit
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# [17:55] <bz> rbarnes: so are you inside the call to digest() ?
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# [17:55] <bz> rbarnes: called from JS?
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# [17:55] <vlad> khuey: yeah.
# [17:56] <bz> rbarnes: or is your code running async?
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# [17:56] <nemo> Why does IE11 suck so bad at dom manipulation
# [17:56] <nemo> (and IE10 and IE9)
# [17:56] <rbarnes> bz: async, but i think i had the same problem sync
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# [17:57] <nemo> Right now it is difference between the change applying with a slight stutter, and the page hanging for 5s ಠ_ಠ
# [17:57] <rbarnes> bz: JS --(webidl)--> Digest --> new Promise, new CryptoTask --> CallCallback --> resolve Promise
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# [17:57] <bz> rbarnes: wait
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# [17:58] <bz> rbarnes: Digest() creates the promise and returns it, right?
# [17:58] <bz> rbarnes: and then resolves it async, I assume?
# [17:58] <rbarnes> bz: yes
# [17:58] <rbarnes> bz: Digest() create promise and returns it, then starts an async task to resolve it with an ABV
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# [17:59] <bz> rbarnes: OK. And the async task is creating the typed array?
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# [17:59] <rbarnes> bz: yes
# [17:59] <rbarnes> bz: or trying to :)
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# [18:00] <bz> rbarnes: ok. So the basic story is that a compartment corresponds 1-1 to a global
# [18:01] <bz> rbarnes: so the question of "which compartment" is the question of "which global are we working in?"
# [18:01] <rbarnes> bz: well, we start in window.crypto.subtle. so the global is... "window" ?
# [18:01] <bz> rbarnes: make sense so far?
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# [18:02] <rbarnes> yep
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# [18:02] <bz> Well, the global is ... who knows
# [18:02] <rbarnes> bz: the definition of "global" here is unclear to me
# [18:02] <bz> heh
# [18:02] <@khuey> so say we all
# [18:02] <bz> So there are several different concepts of global
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# [18:02] <bz> There is the global of the function that got called
# [18:02] <bz> There is the global of the this value for the call
# [18:02] <bz> and there is the global of the calling code
# [18:03] <rbarnes> well, the important thing is that global(ABV) == global(Promise) ?
# [18:03] <bz> Important for what purpose?
# [18:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a53f6e5853d - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 2912b402523d (bug 968245) for multiple test failures; CLOSED TREE
# [18:03] <bz> So on the web, if we ignore Xrays, there are only two relevant globals
# [18:03] <rbarnes> my current crash is in js::assertSameCompartment within Promise::MaybeResolve
# [18:03] <bz> The global of the function that got called and the global of the this value
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# [18:04] <bz> So part of your problem is that the compartment handling in promises is totally busted.
# [18:04] <rbarnes> oh good
# [18:04] <bz> That said, I think MaybeResolve does expect the cx and the value to be same-compartment
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# [18:05] <bz> Sorry, just reading over the promise code
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# [18:05] <bz> Do you know which exact line of promise code you hit your assert on?
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# [18:06] <bz> Also, what did your call to MaybeResolve look like when you assert?
# [18:06] <jcranmer> hmm, is someone working on implementing WebCrypto? :-)
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# [18:06] <rbarnes> bz: here's the bt http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4391108
# [18:06] <bz> rbarnes: sorry about all the questions; you've sort of stumbled into an area where we're not quite sure what we actually want to be doing
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# [18:06] <rbarnes> jcranmer: and look how well it's going :)
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# [18:07] <rbarnes> bz: no problem. i can see how this is subtle
# [18:07] <bz> ok
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# [18:07] <bz> So this is this bit:
# [18:07] <bz> if (!JS_GetProperty(aCx, valueObj, "then", &then)) {
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# [18:07] <bz> Where "valueObj" is the value that got passed in
# [18:07] <bz> May I see what your calling code looks like?
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# [18:08] <rbarnes> bz: this should capture everything relevant http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4391120
# [18:09] <bz> rbarnes: thanks
# [18:09] <rbarnes> in partincular lines 32-34
# [18:09] <bz> rbarnes: yeah.
# [18:09] <bz> rbarnes: so on line 30 you get a random JSContext, associted with a random global
# [18:09] <rbarnes> bz: aha
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# [18:09] <bz> rbarnes: then on line 32 you create a typed array in the global of mSubtleCrypto->GetParentObject()
# [18:09] <rbarnes> bz: actually that code doesn't even compile, mSubtleCrypto->GetParentObject() doesn't have the right type
# [18:10] <bz> rbarnes: sure, but the general principle remains
# [18:10] <rbarnes> bz: but it also fails with mSubtleCrypto or mResultPromise there
# [18:10] <bz> rbarnes: here's what I think you should do.
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# [18:11] <bz> rbarnes: In the method that creates the runnable, grab the current global from the JSContext
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# [18:11] <bz> rbarnes: So in digest()
# [18:11] <rbarnes> bz: yep, following
# [18:11] <bz> rbarnes: you'll need to annotate the method in bindings.conf as wanting a JSContext
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# [18:11] <bz> rbarnes: Then store that global in the runnable
# [18:11] <rbarnes> bz: yep, know how to do that
# [18:12] <bz> rbarnes: And root it in there, of course
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# [18:12] <bz> rbarnes: then after you AutoJSContext, you want to JSAutoCompartment ac(cx, savedGlobal);
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# [18:13] <bz> rbarnes: and then call Uint8Array::Create(cx, JS::NullHandleValue, mResultLength, mResult);
# [18:13] <philor> edmorley|sheriffduty: botond has Win debug bustage
# [18:13] <rbarnes> bz: and i get the global via cx->global() ?
# [18:13] <edmorley|sheriffduty> philor: ty, just queuing it up :-)
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# [18:13] <bz> rbarnes: JS::CurrentGlobalOrNull
# [18:13] <@smaug> (we need AutoJSContextAutoCompartment)
# [18:13] <@khuey> we should probably plug this into my MaybeSomething patch
# [18:13] <rbarnes> bz: think i can run with that. thanks a lot for muddling through this with me.
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# [18:14] <botond|home> philor: :(. was working fine on try...
# [18:14] <philor> botond|home: yeah, and you saved resources with a -b o push to try ;)
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# [18:18] <botond|home> edmorley|sheriffduty: i guess i should back out bug 958596 then?
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# [18:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/15869165b0aa - Andy Wingo - Bug 962599 - Store let-bound variables in the fixed part of stack frames r=luke,jandem
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# [18:19] <botond|home> edmorley|sheriffduty: ah i see you've done it, thanks
# [18:19] <edmorley|sheriffduty> botond|home: why?
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# [18:19] <edmorley|sheriffduty> botond|home: ah wrong bug #
# [18:19] <edmorley|sheriffduty> np
# [18:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc698e2ff036 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 973563 - Correct assertion for zero-sized structs r=till
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# [18:34] <dne0> this bug is fixed, right? No code changes are required in this bug? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi
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# [18:35] <dne0> sorry, correct link is: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=536171
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# [19:07] <@ehsan> jduell: yeah I'm just missing the socket transport logs, which is why this is a mystery to me
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# [19:08] <jduell> ehsan: double check there's no typo in 'nsSocketTransport:5' :)
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# [19:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a278b0807420 - Terrence Cole - Bug 975947 - Fix generational GC's interaction with the barrier verifier; r=sfink
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# [19:09] <@ehsan> jduell: so... try has been reset :(
# [19:09] <@ehsan> which means I can't double check anything
# [19:09] <@ehsan> yikes
# [19:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ?
# [19:10] <jduell> ehsan: ok. Well, it's hard to imagine another cause. Which isn't to say there isn't one
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# [19:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> you can't see the csets in hg anymore, but the logs are still there
# [19:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and tbpl will still fallback and show you the job results
# [19:10] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I need my commits
# [19:10] <@ehsan> jduell: fwiw I'm almost positive that I did not have any typos
# [19:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> if you have the log urls still, they'll still work
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# [19:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> you just won't see the hg info
# [19:11] <@ehsan> that sounds like the first thing I would check at least!
# [19:11] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah well it's the hg commits I need here :)
# [19:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ok
# [19:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> just wanted to make sure you knew the other part of that since it's a pretty recent change
# [19:11] <@ehsan> jduell: I guess I'll try again
# [19:11] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yep, thanks!
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# [19:13] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: fwiw this whole business of resetting try in every tree closure is... pretty unhelpful
# [19:13] <@ehsan> but I didn't want to get into that discussion :(
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# [19:16] <@smaug> why do I see review requests for patches which I've reviewed
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# [19:17] <@khuey> the screen you get when you click on your number seems to lag
# [19:17] <@smaug> this is a regression
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# [19:18] <@smaug> glob|away: this caching bug looks particularly bad today
# [19:19] <jimm> where does the fxos music app gets its album art?
# [19:19] <@smaug> ok, after about 5 shift-reloads review queue looks right
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# [19:19] <@smaug> jimm: better to ask #b2g or somewhere, I think
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# [19:20] <Callek> cc: fox2mike on bmo issues ^
# [19:20] <@khuey> @gaia
# [19:20] <@khuey> er
# [19:20] <@khuey> #gaia
# [19:20] <@khuey> jimm: ^
# [19:20] <jimm> not a big deal, I was curious
# [19:20] <fox2mike> Callek: ?
# [19:21] <Callek> fox2mike: the "caching bug" looks especially bad per smaug
# [19:21] <Callek> fox2mike: which sounds roughly like zeus/etc settings awry
# [19:21] <Callek> so wanted to poke you on it
# [19:21] <@smaug> it is mainly just annoying
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# [19:26] <fox2mike> Callek: umm ok. what's the bug number?
# [19:27] <fox2mike> (I'm not responsible for bugzilla anymore, but I'm willing to look)
# [19:27] <@smaug> hmm, did I file a bug
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# [19:27] <@smaug> perhaps I didn't
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# [19:28] <Callek> ooo I thought you were responsible for it -- and i'll defer to smaug for bug #
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# [19:38] <hwine|afk> ehsan: sorry the try reset is a hassle. The "every 6 week reset" is an attempt to make try performance more predictable and stable....
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# [19:38] <@ehsan> hwine|afk: so does this mean that we're going to lose our try pushes every 6 weeks now?
# [19:39] <hwine|afk> ehsan: ... but if that is worse than the sluggishness, there should be a discussion -- which news group would be best for that
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# [19:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e4b40a4da7c - Ralph Giles - Bug 976211 - pref off test_framebuffer.html. r=kinetik
# [19:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7840db3e63c2 - Ralph Giles - Bug 964559 - Remove MOZ_OGG. r=doublec,ted
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# [19:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/98316f2aba5d - Ralph Giles - Bug 964559 - Expect empty string for canPlayType failure. r=doublec
# [19:40] <hwine|afk> (the goal is improving the situation, not making it worse, but everyone defines "worse" differently)
# [19:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/662f7982dc8b - Ralph Giles - Bug 964559 - Run ogg mochitests unconditionally. r=doublec
# [19:41] <@ehsan> hwine|afk: dev-platform perhaps?
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# [19:42] <@ehsan> hwine|afk: yeah I understand the goal, but try resets also cause some pain
# [19:42] <hwine|afk> ehsan: okay - give me a day or so to pull together the long history and I'll get something out there
# [19:42] <@ehsan> hwine|afk: ok sounds good, thanks
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# [19:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2c10a763c08 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 052fd5d34073 (bug 932350) for landing with bad syntax.
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# [20:06] <froydnj> timeouts only affect *opt* builds? how does that work?
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# [20:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: isn't that what we're trying to figure out? ;)
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# [20:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> MattN: Gijs: should bug 974804 be tagged [Australis] ?
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# [20:12] <@khuey> froydnj: go home mochitests, you're drunk
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# [20:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> see, now I get crap even when I turn them back on!
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# [20:13] <mt> RyanVM: ack
# [20:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mt: thanks :)
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# [20:15] <Gijs_away> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yes, but feel free to land it if you're doing a bunch anyway
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# [20:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ok
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# [20:20] <bz_away> froydnj: my current hypothesis is some sort of race, I guess
# [20:20] <bz_away> froydnj: need to disentangle the code enough to tell
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# [20:20] <@bsmedberg> bjacob__: I'm around
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# [20:21] <@bsmedberg> sure, vidyo?
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# [20:21] <bjacob__> sure
# [20:21] <bjacob__> getting a room
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# [20:23] <@smaug> NeilAway: I hope so
# [20:23] <bjacob> bsmedberg: i'm on the Graphics room
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# [20:23] <@smaug> NeilAway: I so didn't remember that gecko internal promiseflatstrings had that behavior
# [20:23] <@smaug> and non-internal don't have
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# [20:24] <@smaug> NeilAway: sounds like a case where external PromiseFlatString should have been dealt with outside glue
# [20:24] <@smaug> somewhere in mailnews code
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# [20:28] <vlad> sewardj_: hey, if you're around, tell me about valgrind's built-in gdbserver.. does it work on arm? I need something to provide watchpoints, and some gdb docs say this is much faster than gdb's sw watchpoints (I believe it)
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# [20:28] <vlad> sewardj_: and if it does work, is it faster than running valgrind in memcheck mode? Or is it basically that?
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# [20:28] <firebot> such that there are no concurrent stream operations which could screw the state machine of gstreamer. r=alessandro.d, a=sledru
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# [20:51] <sewardj_> vlad: and yes the data breakpoints are done using the memcheck machinery, so the performance will be memcheck-like
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# [20:53] <jesup> bsmedberg: ping
# [20:54] <@bsmedberg> jesup:
# [20:54] <@bsmedberg> pong
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# [20:55] <jesup> bsmedberg: What's the current word on use of ostream/etc functions in opt nightlies and later? IIRC they were "ok in debug code, not in release/opt" a year+ ago
# [20:56] <@bsmedberg> jesup: I don't really know. Why do you want them?
# [20:56] <@bsmedberg> and do they throw C++ exceptions?
# [20:56] <ekr> they should not throw exceptions
# [20:56] <ekr> We are using them for log formatting
# [20:57] <@bsmedberg> I don't know why it would be a problem, but I really don't remember any of the history there.
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# [20:57] <@bsmedberg> I wouldn't pass the objects around outside of a single .dll
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# [20:57] <ekr> bsmedberg, no, it's nothing complicated.
# [20:57] <@bsmedberg> so keep it all within libxul or within gkmedias for example
# [20:57] <ekr> it's like use a stringstream
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# [21:00] <jesup> we'll still want to avoid the overhead if we're not actually logging, so we'll want to make some mods. Sounds like this may no longer be the issue it once was (in windows?)
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# [21:02] <tbsaunde> RyanVM|sheriffduty: philor ?showall=1 is what I want to see l10n builds right?
# [21:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> tbsaunde: "maybe" ?
# [21:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> most don't show on tbpl
# [21:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> IIRC, Android is the only ones
# [21:03] <mahdi> ou, please ignore it silently.
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# [21:04] <tbsaunde> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I want android
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# [21:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> tbsaunde: in that case, yes :)
# [21:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> tbsaunde: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?showall=1&rev=e3daaa4c73dd
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# [21:06] <rbarnes> i would just like to say: AutoJSContext ... JSAutoCompartment
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# [21:13] <sfink> rbarnes: AutoJSContext is XPConnect. JSAutoCompartment is JSAPI. I'm not sure if that's a defense of the naming, but at least it's an explanation. :)
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# [21:13] <rbarnes> sfink: just sharing my impressions as a newcomer :)
# [21:14] <rbarnes> happened to need them in adjoining lines, and it made me go cross-eyed
# [21:14] <sfink> yes, it's certainly not pleasant
# [21:14] <Ms2ger> Then again, you're using JSAPI
# [21:14] <Ms2ger> Did you expect pleasantries?
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# [21:15] <rbarnes> if i have to convert between JSObject and JS::Value one more time...
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# [21:15] <bz> rbarnes: "AutoJSContext" is an auto object that gives you a JSContext
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# [21:15] <bz> rbarnes: which starts with "JS" because it's part of the JS API
# [21:15] <bz> rbarnes: JSAutoCompartment is a JS API thing that gives you auto stuff for a compartment
# [21:16] <bz> rbarnes: A JSCompartment, mind you, so it really should have been called JSAutoJSCompartment
# [21:16] <rbarnes> i see
# [21:16] <bz> rbarnes: but no one would like that.....
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# [21:17] <tbsaunde> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ah, thanks :)
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# [21:17] <sfink> maybe bholley will be able to eliminate the AutoJSContext one entirely, and then it won't be quite so bad?
# [21:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bholley, our hero
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# [21:37] <bz> kats: ping
# [21:37] <kats> bz: pong
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# [21:37] <bz> kats: for purposes of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=943206#c25 which testcase are you looking at?
# [21:38] <bz> kats: the one where Chrome has a body size different from ours?
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# [21:38] <kats> bz: i'm using the url from comment 0 and looking at the iframe that contains the map
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# [21:38] <bz> kats: thanks
# [21:38] * bz looks
# [21:38] <kats> it's window[0]
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# [21:38] <bz> kats: yep
# [21:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/852fa926deae - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 976392 - Move moz2d to libxul; r=jrmuizel
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# [21:41] <bz> kats: how did you measure the body height?
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# [21:42] <kats> bz: IIRC i looked at the box model visualization in the devtools
# [21:42] <kats> let me pull it up again
# [21:43] <bz> kats: hrm
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# [21:44] <kats> i see 482x645 for the body in ff
# [21:44] <kats> and 482x388.609 in chrome
# [21:45] <bz> kats: I see it in devtools
# [21:45] <dorsatum> As a project idea for GSoC, I was wondering if the inclusion of trackpad gestures in Firefox would be acceptable. Any comments?
# [21:45] <bz> kats: But I can't reproduce it so far in a minimal testcase...
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# [21:46] <@smaug> dorsatum: like the ones we have on OSX?
# [21:46] <robcee> RyanVM|sheriffduty: sorry for the burnage. thanks for the backout.
# [21:47] <@smaug> dorsatum: or something more complicated
# [21:47] <kats> bz: ah! the div inside the body has a zoom property
# [21:47] <kats> 0.6025
# [21:47] <bz> kats: ah
# [21:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> robcee: wha? :)
# [21:47] <bz> kats: which we don't implement but presumably Chrome does?
# [21:47] <kats> bz: i guess so
# [21:47] <bz> ok
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# [21:47] <kats> bz: although...
# [21:48] <robcee> RyanVM|sheriffduty: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/9e154b693462
# [21:48] <kats> bz: in FF i see transform:scale
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# [21:48] <Ms2ger> zoom is an IEism
# [21:48] <kats> but i guess that doesn't affect layout height
# [21:48] <froydnj> jrmuizel: where does qcms get its endianness defines from nowadays? I see BYTE_ORDER in qcmstypes.h, but that doesn't seem sufficient...
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# [21:48] <bz> kats: transform doesn't affect layout height, right
# [21:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> robcee: oh, np :)
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# [21:49] <robcee> change 2 prefs, spend 2 weeks debugging fallout. yay!
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# [21:51] <dorsatum> smaug: for os x, the ones available are pinch to zoom, zoom out and twist and turn, right?
# [21:51] * @roc sees a talk about studying program comprehension using fMRI, and wonders how they get the source code into the scanner
# [21:51] <jrmuizel> froydnj: the compiler
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# [21:51] <kats> roc: probably killed a few trees for the sake of science
# [21:51] <Ms2ger> roc, put it on a floppy disk
# [21:51] <robcee> roc: can the fMRI do code review?
# [21:51] <jrmuizel> froydnj: why isn't it sufficient?
# [21:51] <robcee> can we hire it?
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# [21:52] <@bsmedberg> MOZ_ASSERT is supposed to take a second argument, right?
# [21:52] <@bsmedberg> I'm getting compile errors with https://hg.mozilla.org/try/file/b956126f4be7/xpcom/threads/nsTimerImpl.cpp#l685
# [21:52] <Ms2ger> Either way
# [21:52] <@bsmedberg> MOZ_ASSERT(NS_SUCCEEDED(rv), msg);
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# [21:52] <@bsmedberg> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=35234388&tree=Try
# [21:52] <Ms2ger> It might need to be a string literal
# [21:52] <dholbert> bsmedberg, it takes a string literal, IIRC
# [21:53] <@bsmedberg> oh
# [21:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dad774c849bb - Martin Thomson - Bug 884573 - Part 2: Identity assertion generation and verification for WebRTC. r=abr
# [21:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e0e649f4e06 - Jan Beich - Bug 962345 - Unhide cairo_qt_surface_*() when building with --enable-system-cairo. r=glandium
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# [21:53] <froydnj> jrmuizel: huh? I don't see anything like that in the code, just tests for (nonexistent?) BYTE_ORDER, _MSC_VER, and __OS2__
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# [21:53] <@bsmedberg> crap
# [21:53] <jrmuizel> froydnj:
# [21:53] <froydnj> jrmuizel: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/qcms/qcmstypes.h#4 is what I'm looking at
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# [21:54] <@smaug> dorsatum: haven't used osx for ages, but sounds about right. Some of the gestures are possibly disabled by default
# [21:54] <jrmuizel> froydnj: is BYTE_ORDER not defined?
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# [21:55] <froydnj> jrmuizel: I don't know! I don't see any code in qcms that defines it
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# [21:55] <tbsaunde> dholbert: I think either way of fixing the --disable-accessibilitybustage is fine
# [21:55] <jesup> roc: mirrors :-) (perhaps seriously) or dead trees as mentioned
# [21:55] <froydnj> jrmuizel: somebody is updating mfbt/Endian.h, and it seemed advisable to tell them they should update qcms, since I thought the qcms endian code was copied from there
# [21:55] <@smaug> dorsatum: search for browser.gesture in about:config
# [21:55] <jrmuizel> froydnj: indeed the code is probably just working by accident right now
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# [21:55] <tbsaunde> dholbert: though perhaps always having the atom is prettier
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# [21:56] <froydnj> jrmuizel: good thing we don't build on big-endian platforms!
# [21:56] <dholbert> tbsaunde (& cabanier): cool. I don't know the code that uses the atom; if it's conceivable that that code could be #ifdeffed, I think that probably makes more sense
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# [21:56] <jrmuizel> froydnj: I'll fix it
# [21:57] <tbsaunde> dholbert: I think it could be, though I think that code should be refactored to have a proper API not just sticking random properties on a node
# [21:57] <froydnj> jrmuizel: thanks
# [21:57] <jrmuizel> froydnj: who or what bug is updating mfbt/Endian.h?
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# [21:58] <dholbert> tbsaunde, ok. [I haven't really looked at it, but I'll take your word for it.] If you feel strongly, maybe file a bug ?
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# [21:58] <froydnj> jrmuizel: bug 976648
# [21:58] <dholbert> tbsaunde, unlike an #ifdef tweak, that's something that probably shouldn't just land as a followup. :)
# [21:58] <dorsatum> smaug: from what I read the twist gestures are disabled by default. what I'd like to propose is using a two finger swipe to move between tabs. The current system allows the usage of the scroll bar, we can scroll horizontally between tabs, though to access the tab we need to click on it. I believe that using a gesture to move precisely to a tab would be more functional.
# [21:58] <tbsaunde> dholbert: oh, sure the refactoring shouldn't be a follow up of course
# [21:59] <dholbert> cool :)
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# [21:59] <tbsaunde> dholbert: just mentioning it to explain I don't care much how its resolved
# [21:59] <dholbert> tbsaunde, ah, gotcha.
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# [22:00] <@smaug> dorsatum: I thought we had something for switch between tabs already - possibly disabled.
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# [22:00] <@smaug> dorsatum: anyhow, sounds like a quite small project for GSoC
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# [22:01] <@smaug> if it could be made working on all platforms... that would be more interesting, IMO
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# [22:08] <cabanier> dholbert: I will add a patch to #ifdef the usage of that atom
# [22:08] <dholbert> cabanier, thanks!
# [22:08] <dorsatum> smaug: if given the opportunity I would like to make it cross platform. I'd just used OS X as an example, personally I work on Linux and have never used OS X. Overall, my idea stemmed from the mobile version of Firefox where you could see all the tabs and choose accordingly. To expand it here, on performing a particular gesture, the tabs may be arranged in a manner like it is seen in the new tab page, all of them in tiles and for quic
# [22:08] <dorsatum> k maneuvering a two finger swipe.
# [22:08] <cabanier> dholbert: should I add it to the same bug?
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# [22:08] <dholbert> cabanier, probably, yeah; kind of up to you
# [22:09] <dholbert> if it's smallish and trivial, then I think a followup on the same bug is reasonable
# [22:09] <cabanier> dholbert: ok. Will do this after my mac updates :-)
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# [22:09] <dholbert> cabanier, thanks!
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# [22:10] <RyanVM> cabanier: i'll be around for another 30min or so and I'll do another c-n sweep before taking off
# [22:10] <cabanier> RyanVM: great! The patch should be up by then
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# [22:14] <dholbert> cabanier, if it's not up by then, I'm happy to push it later on, too
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# [22:17] <stephend> Honza_: heya!
# [22:17] <stephend> I repro'd my bug even in safe mode
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# [22:17] <stephend> which should help
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# [22:17] <stephend> or not :-)
# [22:17] <stephend> I'll attach to the bug
# [22:21] <@smaug> stephend: Honza_ or mayhemer
# [22:21] <stephend> ar, sorry; the latter :-)
# [22:21] <cabanier> dholbert: do I need to guard it in Accessible.cpp too?
# [22:21] <mayhemer> stephend: hi!
# [22:21] <stephend> just attached it
# [22:21] <tbsaunde> cabanier: no
# [22:21] <stephend> mayhemer: is the problem even "evident" in the previous logfile?
# [22:22] <cabanier> tbsaunde: good. That would be a bit strange :-)
# [22:22] <mayhemer> stephend: which one is the previous?
# [22:22] <vlad> who here knows moz jemalloc?
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# [22:22] <tbsaunde> cabanier: indeed
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# [22:23] <@smaug> froydnj might know about jemalloc
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# [22:24] <mayhemer> stephend: I have to say I'm not really wise from inspecting the log :/
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# [22:25] <stephend> pandora's not throwing an event that shows up in the log, even?
# [22:25] <mayhemer> stephend: can you please try with a completely fresh profile?
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# [22:25] <stephend> sure
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# [22:25] <mayhemer> stephend: just make sure the new cache is on
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# [22:26] <vlad> froydnj: hey, any ideas how I can debug a jemalloc arena magic being stomped, assuming I can't have hardware watchpoints?
# [22:27] <vlad> is there a "verify arena" call type of things
# [22:27] <vlad> er type of thing?
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# [22:27] <stephend> mayhemer: sigh, yeah; new profile worked
# [22:28] <stephend> want the logfile from that?
# [22:28] <cabanier> dholbert: I added my patch and set it to review
# [22:28] <mayhemer> stephend: no no, thanks...
# [22:28] <dholbert> cabanier, yup, reviewing it now
# [22:28] <stephend> np
# [22:28] <dholbert> cabanier, thanks
# [22:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c9e44139023 - John Schoenick - Bug 852315 - Add scary warning comment. r=bsmedberg
# [22:28] <mayhemer> stephend: thinking about next steps...
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# [22:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b6a4f6e8ef8c - John Schoenick - Bug 971279 - Add plugin.java.mime. r=bsmedberg
# [22:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/277862f099a4 - John Schoenick - Bug 406541 - Test. r=bsmedberg
# [22:28] <vlad> froydnj: and, also, do we generally only have one jemalloc arena? (Firefox OS in this case)
# [22:28] <froydnj> vlad: I don't think there's anything like that =/
# [22:28] <stephend> easy to export this profile?
# [22:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/12b636c82b24 - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 971279 - Fix FHR addon provider test for plugin data count. r=gps
# [22:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d186c979373 - John Schoenick - Bug 852315 - Test. r=bsmedberg
# [22:29] <mayhemer> stephend: can you copy prefs.js file from your normal profile to the new one?
# [22:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0eb750d3f014 - John Schoenick - Bug 971273 - Remove some dead code from HTMLSharedObjectElement. r=bsmedberg
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# [22:29] <stephend> mayhemer: yeah, will try
# [22:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7254cd0a6d75 - John Schoenick - Bug 971279 - Add nptest java plugin. r=bsmedberg
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# [22:32] <froydnj> vlad: yes, just one arena
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# [22:33] <dholbert> cabanier, ah, I think you're right
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# [22:34] <dholbert> cabanier, ah, ok. never mind then
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# [22:44] <dholbert> RyanVM, I'm pushing cabanier's followup, unless you're already in the process of doing so
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# [22:45] <@bsmedberg> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=35234388&tree=Try
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# [23:12] <reuben> is there a way to put a conditional breakpoint on a line number?
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# [23:13] <Gijs> reuben: context? JS/C++/...?
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# [23:13] <reuben> Gijs: er, sorry. C++, gdb
# [23:13] <@dolske> jduell: *guffaw* http://cl.ly/image/190g15022K1Q
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# [23:13] <reuben> I'm trying |break nsLoadGroup.cpp:281 if …|, but I get "nsLoadGroup" is not a function
# [23:13] <Gijs> No idea, sorry :(
# [23:14] <tbsaunde> reuben: I don't see why b foo.cpp:5\ncondition 1 whatever wouldn't work
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# [23:14] <Gijs> Is there a generic way of figuring out if a node is in a scrollable container ?
# [23:14] <shu> yeah, i would just set the cond after the fact
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# [23:14] <jduell> sicking: we verify appID, and we currently only let apps open their own application.zip file (unless they have a certain 'manage' permission set)
# [23:14] <jduell> but we could extend that. Also could make it use PBackground
# [23:15] <tbsaunde> reuben: but that error sort of seems like gdb can't find that location or something
# [23:15] <sicking> jduell: yeah, we'd need totally different checks here
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# [23:16] <reuben> tbsaunde: well, just |b nsLoadGroup.cpp:281| works. I'm trying lldb
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# [23:17] <tbsaunde> reuben: then yeah, just set the condition later and then ask gdb folks what's up
# [23:17] <tbsaunde> unless by gdb you mean that thing on osx that's older than the hills
# [23:18] <jduell> dolske: fight the powah
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# [23:20] <bholley> fabrice: How do I do a try push with gaia changes?
# [23:20] <reuben> tbsaunde: I do mean gdb 6.ancient
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# [23:22] <bholley> ah. https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryServer#Using_a_custom_Gaia
# [23:22] <bholley> that looks annoying
# [23:22] <tbsaunde> reuben: so yeah resolved EDONTCARE
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# [23:22] <reuben> :)
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# [23:23] <tbsaunde> or perhaps ESCREWAPPLE is better
# [23:23] <reuben> lldb works, /and/ it saves the input history across instances
# [23:23] <reuben> I should have switched ages ago
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# [23:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c35458a437cc - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 976305. Use the callee, not the irrelevant this value, to figure out the GlobalObject for a static WebIDL method. r=bholley
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# [23:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/058d484e5034 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 976272. Use DOMString for HTMLElement.className, and mark it as [Pure]. r=smaug
# [23:26] <stephend> mayhemer: sorry, I have to launch a site for QA -- will get to this tonight :-(
# [23:26] <stephend> meetings and launches, oh my
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# [23:29] <mayhemer> stephend: sure, no problem, thanks for help so far!
# [23:29] <jduell> ehsan: you could also try the magic 'sync' flag for NSPR_LOG_FILES (ex: NSPR_LOG_MODULES=sync,nsHttp:4,...). It make nspr logging not use a buffer, so you get more log if you crash
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# [23:29] <jduell> I didn't even know about that one until today :)
# [23:30] <jgilbert> moz-central tip is has build errors on clobber, for me
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# [23:30] <jgilbert> cl-18, I think msvc2013?
# [23:31] <dholbert> jgilbert, https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d9a2c52728a
# [23:31] <dholbert> (last patch for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=966591 )
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# [23:32] <@ehsan> jduell: the issue was that I was not getting any socket transport logs whatsoever! but thanks for the tip
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# [23:32] <fabrice> bholley: see bug 960201
# [23:33] <@ehsan> jduell: but fwiw this patch seems to have worked \o/ https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=35239315&tree=Try&full=1
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# [23:33] <jgilbert> dholbert, thanks
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# [23:33] <jduell> ehsan: that was from putting nsSocketTransport first on the list of modules?
# [23:33] <@ehsan> yep
# [23:33] <jduell> ehsan: that's messed up. :)
# [23:33] <@ehsan> no kidding!
# [23:33] <bholley> fabrice: ok. That's this, right? https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryServer#Using_a_custom_Gaia
# [23:34] <stephend> np, happy to help mayhemer
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# [23:34] <fabrice> bholley: looks like it, yes. I haven't tried that yet
# [23:35] <bholley> fabrice: ok
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# [23:38] <bholley> fabrice: also, can you tell me what sinon is?
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# [23:38] <@bz> When is the last 28 beta?
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# [23:43] <fabrice> bholley: a test framework I believe
# [23:43] <bholley> fabrice: can I patch it, if I need to?
# [23:43] <fabrice> bholley: no idea, you should ask in #gaia
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