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  28. # [00:09] <jimb> Is an nsXULPrototypeScript associated with any particular XUL <script> element, or can it be shared amongst several of them?
  29. # [00:09] <@khuey> the prototype stuff is shared
  30. # [00:09] <Waldo> esr17 is dead now, right?
  31. # [00:10] <@njn> glob|away: my Bugzilla dashboard is claiming that I have a review request in Bug 969117, even though I r+'d it an hour ago
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  33. # [00:10] <jimb> khuey: A Debugger.Source instance tries to let you find the DOM element that owns the code, if there is one; this works for HTML <script> elements, for example.
  34. # [00:10] <jimb> khuey: Is there any corresponding concept for XUL?
  35. # [00:11] <jimb> khuey: Basically, Debugger should help its customers answer the question, "Where in the heck did this code come from?"
  36. # [00:11] <@gavin> Waldo: yes
  37. # [00:11] <jimb> khuey: What should it do for code compiled by nsXULPrototypeScript::Compile?
  38. # [00:11] <jimb> khuey: Is there anything it can do?
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  40. # [00:11] <@khuey> jimb: it comes from every instance of the XUL document in question
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  42. # [00:12] <@khuey> jimb: so I'm not sure that there is an equivalent concept here
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  45. # [00:12] <jimb> khuey: Okay. So an nsXULPrototypeScript is part of some structure shared by all instantiations of the XUL document whose parsing created it.
  46. # [00:13] <Waldo> woo
  47. # [00:13] <jimb> khuey: What about dynamically generated XUL <script> elements? Do those get an nsXULPrototypeScript instance that is unique to them?
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  50. # [00:14] <Waldo> what about b2g18?
  51. # [00:14] <sicking> jimb: ooh, tricky question
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  53. # [00:14] <jimb> ooh la la
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  57. # [00:14] <jimb> sicking: do tell
  58. # [00:14] <sicking> jimb: prototypes for scripts are especially complex. I don't know the answer
  59. # [00:15] <jimb> "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed"
  60. # [00:15] <jimb> sicking: I see.
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  62. # [00:16] <sicking> jimb: do dynamically generated XUL <script>s even run?
  63. # [00:16] <jimb> sicking: no idea; I'm just running on symmetry, no actual domain experience
  64. # [00:16] <jimb> sicking, khuey: It sounds like the answer to my question is "Debugger can't give you provenance information for such code right now".
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  66. # [00:16] <jimb> which is fine, I think.
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  69. # [00:17] <jimb> I just wanted to make sure we were doing what we easily could.
  70. # [00:17] <jimb> sicking, khuey: Thanks!
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  76. # [00:18] <sicking> jimb: looking at the code, it doesn't look like dynamically created XUL elements ever get a prototype
  77. # [00:19] <sicking> jimb: which sounds right to me. But also likely means that dynamically generated xul <script>s don't run
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  82. # [00:23] <@gavin> that sounds like a fun confusing XUL inconsistency
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  84. # [00:23] <sicking> XUL is a special snowflake
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  86. # [00:25] <jimb> sicking: So... there's really no point in dynamically generated XUL <script> elements, then?
  87. # [00:25] <jimb> You can't run them explicitly post-facto or something bizarre like that?
  88. # [00:25] <sicking> jimb: assuming my reading the code is right: Correct
  89. # [00:26] <jimb> getElementById(...).runKTHXBYE()?
  90. # [00:26] <sicking> definitely don't have that
  91. # [00:26] <jimb> sicking: Ah, that's great, then!
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  93. # [00:26] <jimb> I don't even have to write tests for that now
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  105. # [00:32] <gps> bz_dinner: I got that earlier. was waiting for it to repro
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  107. # [00:32] <gps> ctrl+c + trying again made it go away
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  122. # [00:40] <sicking> reuben: ping
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  124. # [00:41] <reuben> sicking: hi
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  126. # [00:42] <sicking> reuben: so it turns out the jld almost have working code to get 3rd party apps to be able to use the camera API
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  128. # [00:42] <sicking> reuben: but it needs some additional love to make us put up a prompt as needed
  129. # [00:42] <jld> reuben: bug 976398
  130. # [00:42] <sicking> reuben: what are you working on these days? :)
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  133. # [00:43] <reuben> sicking: waiting to land the downloads bug, and reviews, contacts, etc
  134. # [00:43] <reuben> sicking: I can take it. does it have to land soon?
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  137. # [00:44] <reuben> cool stuff btw
  138. # [00:44] <sicking> reuben: it would yes. We can still bail on having camera for 3rd party apps work in 1.4. It's not a blocker
  139. # [00:44] <sicking> reuben: but if we want to get it in 1.4, it needs to happen by branch date next monday
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  141. # [00:44] <sicking> reuben: if you have blockers, you should work on those instead
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  144. # [00:45] <reuben> sicking: ok
  145. # [00:45] <sicking> reuben: note that we're only doing the prompting the normal way. The actual implementation (once the user has said "yes") is going through strange and mysterious code paths :)
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  147. # [00:45] <fabrice> for the camera?
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  149. # [00:45] <sicking> fabrice: yeah
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  153. # [00:46] <fabrice> sicking: because of the hw-XXX permission I guess
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  160. # [00:46] <fabrice> sicking: so we'll let privileged apps use camera control?
  161. # [00:47] <jld> reuben: So, with that patch, there's code that runs on the main thread that calls mozIApplication::HasPermission("camera"), when the content process tries to access the camera.
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  163. # [00:47] <qDot> bent: ping
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  165. # [00:47] <sicking> fabrice: no, we're actually getting rid of the hw-xxx permission. The reason we have to go through strange ways to implement the actual API is that we don't have that much control over the implementation of the API
  166. # [00:47] <bent> qDot, hi
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  168. # [00:48] <reuben> jld: what does the web-facing API look like?
  169. # [00:48] <sicking> fabrice: not sure if i'm making sense? :)
  170. # [00:48] <fabrice> sicking: 50%. we let it certified only?
  171. # [00:48] <jld> reuben: sicking would know that better than I would.
  172. # [00:48] <@roc> I actually kinda hate hackernews and reddit now
  173. # [00:49] <qDot> bent: If I try to open an indexedDB database and it fails due to having no schemas, I shouldn't need to close connections or anything, right? I'm testing OOP B2G Desktop and getting onblocked when trying to delete the database after trying to open it and getting an error back.
  174. # [00:49] <sicking> fabrice: no, the idea is to expose to privileged apps
  175. # [00:49] <fabrice> cool
  176. # [00:49] <qDot> roc: Amen.
  177. # [00:50] <sicking> roc: what did they do now?
  178. # [00:50] <bent> qDot, "no schemas"?
  179. # [00:50] <@roc> my chaos mode blog post got 20K views and zero comments. All the comments ended up on reddit/hackernews
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  182. # [00:50] <@roc> i.e. fragmented and hard to find
  183. # [00:50] <qDot> bent: https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/blob/master/apps/clock/test/unit/database_test.js#L120
  184. # [00:50] <sicking> roc: heh
  185. # [00:51] <qDot> bent: That's the test in question. It dies on the teardown afterward.
  186. # [00:51] <bent> qDot, that's not normal indexeddb...
  187. # [00:51] <bent> db.connect is not a thing
  188. # [00:51] <qDot> bent: Yup. The clock guys wrote a huge wrapper.
  189. # [00:51] <bent> this is some kind of
  190. # [00:51] <bent> um
  191. # [00:51] <qDot> bent: Prepare to frown.
  192. # [00:51] <@khuey> :((((
  193. # [00:51] <bent> for the clock app?
  194. # [00:52] <qDot> https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/blob/master/apps/clock/js/database.js
  195. # [00:52] <bent> it's got some crazy db needs i guess?
  196. # [00:52] <reuben> roc: to be honest, blogpost comments are pretty terrible
  197. # [00:52] <@gavin> roc: where are the reddit comments?
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  199. # [00:52] <bent> qDot, i have no idea what to tell you
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  201. # [00:53] <bent> qDot, basically databases are opened on a particular version,
  202. # [00:53] <qDot> bent: Yeah I'm trying to whittle this down into something closer to the actual problem.
  203. # [00:53] <@roc> http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/2016xj/firefox_self_fuzzing_patches_finds_bugs/, http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/201j7j/introducing_chaos_mode/
  204. # [00:53] <bent> qDot, and if they're opened later with a higher version then we tell all the old versions that they should close
  205. # [00:53] <qDot> bent: What I'm worried about is that in OOP cases for some reason we're failing a connection but IDB still thinks it's open.
  206. # [00:53] <bent> qDot, and if they don't then we tell the newer guy that the open is blocked
  207. # [00:54] <qDot> bent: I'll try to distill this down to a slightly more sane test.
  208. # [00:54] <bent> qDot, so i'd look for a place where an indexeddb database is opened and the wrapper code fails fto set an onversionchange handler
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  210. # [00:55] <bent> qDot, (onversionchange is the notification that someone else is trying to upgrade the db)
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  213. # [00:56] <qDot> bent: Ok, I'll see what I can do. This is the only test that's reliably failing everywhere, just trying to figure out who to blame that on.
  214. # [00:56] <dholbert> KWierso|sheriffduty, can I push a whitespace-only DONTBUILD cset? (won't trigger builds, hence "too many pending builds" isn't a problem)
  215. # [00:56] <KWierso|sheriffduty> dholbert: sure
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  298. # [01:37] <vlad> so is the tree going to get reopened any time soon?
  299. # [01:37] <vlad> there are way less pending builds now than there were an hour ago
  300. # [01:37] <@gavin> I see hardly any
  301. # [01:38] <philor> depends on what you call soon
  302. # [01:38] <@gavin> (except for try)
  303. # [01:38] <vlad> gavin: well I see 418 on inbound
  304. # [01:38] <philor> and "pending builds" was just a few letters that I typed while stealing time from work
  305. # [01:38] <vlad> so I wouldn't call it hardly any
  306. # [01:38] <@gavin> that's running
  307. # [01:38] <@gavin> 22 pending
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  309. # [01:38] <vlad> oh quite, i was looking at it backwards
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  311. # [01:39] <ttaubert> 22 is backwards also 22
  312. # [01:39] <@gavin> philor: so what's the real reason
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  317. # [01:41] <philor> the long version would involve explaining how many pushes since we had built windows, and how many since we had built the b2g emulator builds that do tests, and how long since we ran the tests on them, and how few tegras we have running, and what jacuzzis are
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  320. # [01:42] <philor> and swearing
  321. # [01:43] <nthomas> so bug 981903 ? Which wasn't marked a blocker
  322. # [01:44] <philor> nope
  323. # [01:44] <philor> if filing it as a blocker could have caused someone to go back in time and create more builds, I would have
  324. # [01:45] <philor> as it was, I could get to a usable state that should hold overnight far faster than anyone else, just by closing until a fair number of people went home
  325. # [01:46] <philor> bhearsum offered to shut the jacuzzis off, but I figured since they held over the weekend, they could manage a weekday overnight, just not a weekday day
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  328. # [01:46] <nthomas> I belatedly saw that scrollback
  329. # [01:46] <philor> of course, I don't know, nobody knows, and nobody will know, which is most of the problem
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  332. # [01:47] <philor> we have no idea what okay is, makes it hard to tell whether we've made things not-okay :)
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  337. # [01:48] <philor> and now, for my best bit of sheriff work ever:
  338. # [01:48] <philor> I want something better for dinner than any of the crap in the house now, and I don't want people yelling at me when I get home after stopping at the store, so I'm going to prematurely reopen
  339. # [01:49] <philor> it seems random and capricious, but that's just because it is
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  357. # [01:55] <ekr> philor: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4545377
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  359. # [01:55] <ekr> vlad: ^^
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  362. # [01:55] <vlad> what
  363. # [01:56] <vlad> ekr: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=d4d61f6213e2
  364. # [01:56] <ekr> vlad: perhaps a clobber is needeD?
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  367. # [01:56] <vlad> shouldn't... one wasn't needed on try server
  368. # [01:57] <ekr> vlad: don't the try servers auto-clobber?
  369. # [01:57] <tbsaunde> try is always a clobber
  370. # [01:58] <ekr> vlad: anyway, could be that my build server is wrong. it's been known to happen
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  372. # [01:58] <vlad> no, I suspect this got removed during the day today
  373. # [01:59] <vlad> since my try push this morning
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  375. # [01:59] <vlad> dxr has that
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  377. # [01:59] <vlad> goddamn it
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  386. # [02:00] <vlad> I'm backing out
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  388. # [02:01] <ekr> vlad: sorry to be the bearer of bad news
  389. # [02:01] <vlad> no, I'm glad you caught it.. thanks
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  392. # [02:01] <bkelly> dholbert: ping
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  400. # [02:04] <vlad> cancelled all the builds
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  402. # [02:05] <dholbert> bkelly, pong
  403. # [02:05] <bkelly> dholbert: do you know anything about checkbox input style? :-)
  404. # [02:06] <bkelly> I have some odd behavior
  405. # [02:06] <bkelly> not sure if its a gecko bug... or just a side effect of the spec or something
  406. # [02:06] <dholbert> bkelly, a lot of the style is defined in forms.css
  407. # [02:06] <bkelly> dholbert: setting the checked attribute to false when its already false appears to be causing a reflow
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  409. # [02:07] <bkelly> which I found surprising
  410. # [02:07] <dholbert> bkelly, seems like a bug, yeah
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  413. # [02:07] <bkelly> ok, I will write a bug then... thanks!
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  415. # [02:07] <dholbert> bkelly, already false as in unset?
  416. # [02:07] <bkelly> dholbert: already false as in set to false
  417. # [02:08] <dholbert> bkelly, so like you're calling setAttribute with the value that the attribute already has?
  418. # [02:08] <dholbert> bkelly, (if so: yeah, that seems like a bug)
  419. # [02:08] <bkelly> dholbert: this is the code: check.checked = !!selectedContacts[id];
  420. # [02:08] <dholbert> gotcha
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  422. # [02:08] <bkelly> does that unconditionally... appears to reflow and cause the text runs to be regenerated
  423. # [02:09] <dholbert> I'd expect we should be able to be smarter about that
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  425. # [02:09] <bkelly> dholbert: I would think so, but then I've run into cases where we have to reflow because the spec says so
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  427. # [02:09] <bkelly> like setting textContent (I think)
  428. # [02:10] <dholbert> bkelly, ok. I don't imagine this would fall into that case. Thanks in advance for the bug! ("Core | Layout:form controls" should be a good place for it)
  429. # [02:10] <bkelly> thanks!
  430. # [02:10] <bkelly> I imagine we will work around it in gaia for now
  431. # [02:10] <dholbert> cool
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  436. # [02:13] <heycam> if I download a build and tests from the try server, how do I run tests? I'm mucking around with PYTHONPATH and running runtests.py manually but I'm not getting very far. is there an easier way?
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  443. # [02:16] <heycam> managed to get the right runtests.py command line by poking through logs on tbpl
  444. # [02:16] <heycam> ought to be an easier way, though
  445. # [02:17] <@njn> does bsmedberg's status board allow arbitrayr linking? [foo](http://foo.com) doesn't seem to work
  446. # [02:18] <RyanVM> njn: is there a recommended compiler for home-brew valgrind builds?
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  467. # [02:28] <@njn> RyanVM: GCC
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  469. # [02:28] <RyanVM> does version matter?
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  471. # [02:28] <@njn> RyanVM: don't know, sorry
  472. # [02:28] <RyanVM> I set up ubuntu in a vm with gcc 4.8 and it errored out on me (during ICU IIRC)
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  474. # [02:29] <RyanVM> I was going to see if I could run the content/media mochitests in a loop under valgrind and find something interesting
  475. # [02:29] <RyanVM> cpearce ^
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  477. # [02:29] <@njn> RyanVM: Valgrind died at runtime?
  478. # [02:29] <RyanVM> during the compile
  479. # [02:29] <RyanVM> I used the two options on the devmo guide (disable jemalloc and enable valgrind)
  480. # [02:29] <cpearce> RyanVM: cool.
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  482. # [02:30] <RyanVM> but I'll try to use something closer to what the in-tree build uses and see if that works
  483. # [02:30] <RyanVM> cpearce: no clue if anybody's already tried it, but I've been looking for fun things to play with in a linux vm anyway :P
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  486. # [02:30] <cpearce> RyanVM: I think kinetik does it sporadically.
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  488. # [02:32] <RyanVM> cpearce: still trying to understand the recent comments in bug 921622 - are they saying that it's likely an ASAN/clang bug?
  489. # [02:32] <RyanVM> if so, what do we need to update the version we run in automation?
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  491. # [02:33] <cpearce> padenot: ^^
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  497. # [02:34] <padenot> RyanVM: the crash you linked is real
  498. # [02:35] <padenot> RyanVM: there also is another crash that is an ASAN bug
  499. # [02:35] <RyanVM> ok
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  501. # [02:35] <RyanVM> padenot: I'm just wondering if it's worth trying to catch in valgrind
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  504. # [02:35] <RyanVM> (if I can get a working build :P)
  505. # [02:35] <padenot> RyanVM: I've tried for at least 3 months
  506. # [02:35] <RyanVM> ouch
  507. # [02:35] <RyanVM> 1/200 on tbpl is pretty crappy odds to begin with
  508. # [02:36] <padenot> using a combination of ASAN, valgrind, and Dr. Memory on Windows
  509. # [02:37] <padenot> fwiw, I've been running content/media mochitests using valgrind
  510. # [02:37] <RyanVM> that's discouraging :(
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  512. # [02:38] <RyanVM> padenot: like I said, it was mainly for me to expand my own understanding, but I figured if I could maybe do something useful at the same time...
  513. # [02:38] <RyanVM> :(
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  522. # [02:41] <padenot> RyanVM: it's pretty scary, you should try it :-)
  523. # [02:41] <padenot> running firefox in valgrind
  524. # [02:41] <RyanVM> lol
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  526. # [02:41] <RyanVM> right up my alley :P
  527. # [02:41] <padenot> hehe
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  544. # [02:48] <padenot> RyanVM: do you know how to disable cppunittests per platform?
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  547. # [02:48] <RyanVM> hrm, not sure you can
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  550. # [02:48] <RyanVM> unless you disable it at the makefile level during the build maybe
  551. # [02:48] <RyanVM> that's probably what you'd have to do
  552. # [02:48] <padenot> sounds like it could work
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  572. # [02:57] <RyanVM> padenot: well I certainly won't make any promises, but maybe I'll get lucky :)
  573. # [02:57] <RyanVM> if this is something that's timing dependent, maybe a different config will make a difference
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  681. # [03:45] <cajbir> padenot, kentuckyfriedtakahe: this is an example of adding types to an interface that tightens things down in a way tests are often used http://bluishcoder.co.nz/2012/08/30/safer-handling-of-c-memory-in-ats.html
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  688. # [03:50] <philor> why are we still running browser_dbg_chrome-create.js on Windows?
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  691. # [03:53] <philor> and does b2g really check for updates during startup, including during startup in testing, the way it looks like it does?
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  705. # [03:59] <vlad> how often does b2g-inbound merge with m-c/m-i?
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  709. # [04:00] <philor> as many times as you see it merged, which should probably be between zero and, on truly awful days, six times
  710. # [04:00] <vlad> that doesn't quite answer my question, but sure! I need to get something into tomorrow's b2g nightlies ideally
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  714. # [04:02] <vlad> wondering if m-i or b2g-i is the best way to make that happen, I suspect b2g-i
  715. # [04:02] <philor> neither
  716. # [04:02] <philor> if you mean 3am Tuesday, neither
  717. # [04:02] <heycam> can someone tell me how I can load the symbols for libxul as produced on try (inside filefox-...-crashreporter-symbols-full.zip) into gdb? "symbol-file" on the gunzipped libxul.so.dbg doesn't give me symbols in my backtrace.
  718. # [04:02] <vlad> well, the afternoon builds is probably okay as well
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  721. # [04:03] <vlad> but I may just give up and land on m-i and get it in on wednesdays
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  723. # [04:04] <philor> hard to say, I'd put the odds of an m-i push now hitting the afternoonlies tomorrow just ever so slightly better than b-i, but pretty even
  724. # [04:04] <philor> lots of opportunity for a gaia commit to break b-i between now and when a European sheriff would otherwise merge, but then, merging bustage from b-i isn't unknown
  725. # [04:06] <vlad> yeah, fair
  726. # [04:06] <philor> m-i has a single repo and far fewer hidden tests that are canonically run elsewhere, makes it a little more likely to be fixable even though it takes a lot of busted pushes
  727. # [04:06] <vlad> I'm going to try to land again soon, and hopefully there are no intermediate breakage patches between my last try push and the m-i push
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  729. # [04:06] <philor> the downside of it is that we actually wait for Win PGO to run
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  732. # [04:08] <philor> so that would get triggered in 51 minutes, and take for bloody ever to run, before it could possibly be merged to m-c, and it would have to be merged to m-c long enough before 3am that the builds would... hmm, maybe not, we might have switched m-c to just build nightlies on whatever's tip whether or not it has demonstrated the ability to build
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  736. # [04:09] <philor> but whether it could be merged at midnight, I don't remember having seen Europe choose to merge at midnight
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  764. # [04:25] <vlad> well, regardless, let's see if noone has managed to change some code I depend on in the meantime :p
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  834. # [05:06] <jesup> heycam: I've done it, but it's been a while. It is not fun IIRC. I think I had to add them to the package so they were exported from the builders or some such. But my memory is hazy
  835. # [05:06] <glandium> heycam: just use fetch_symbols
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  837. # [05:07] <glandium> ah, try
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  839. # [05:07] <jesup> yes :-/
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  841. # [05:07] <heycam> glandium, is there any easy way to just make the built libxul not be stripped in the first place?
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  843. # [05:08] <heycam> that might be easier to messing around with this
  844. # [05:08] <glandium> heycam: placing the .so.dbg next to the .so should work
  845. # [05:08] <heycam> glandium, ooh
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  847. # [05:09] <heycam> glandium, that looks promising, it loaded the symbols and backtraces look sensible
  848. # [05:09] <heycam> thanks!
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  880. # [05:41] <@njn> who here can review a trivial regexp fix? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4546975
  881. # [05:41] * @njn suspects the answer is "nearly everybody"
  882. # [05:41] <@njn> heycam: you're in my timezone...
  883. # [05:41] * heycam looks
  884. # [05:42] <@njn> heycam: hint, it's the 0-9
  885. # [05:42] <ckitching> Oh wow, that really is a trivial fix.
  886. # [05:42] <heycam> r=me
  887. # [05:42] <@njn> heycam: thanks
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  890. # [05:43] <@njn> probably should have used \d
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  893. # [05:45] <heycam> can you put \d inside the [] character class thing?
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  897. # [05:47] <@njn> heycam: not sure
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  904. # [05:50] <@bz> Yes
  905. # [05:50] <@bz> you can
  906. # [05:50] <@bz> in JS, at least
  907. # [05:50] <@bz> "0".match(/[\d]/) works
  908. # [05:51] <ckitching> You can in general: http://www.regular-expressions.info/shorthand.html
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  910. # [05:51] <ckitching> But the *meanings* of the shorthand character classes differ wildly between languages.
  911. # [05:52] <ckitching> So you might not want to for the sake of clarity.
  912. # [05:52] <vlad> njn: I just stared at those two lines trying to figure out what you changed for a minute
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  935. # [06:05] <@njn> vlad: :)
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  1080. # [08:18] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning
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  1083. # [08:20] <Ms2ger> Morning
  1084. # [08:21] <Ms2ger> dbaron, "This will prevent us from rerunning *any* selector matching for style attribute changes." < how about [style=...]?
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  1086. # [08:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> man hell of night, 2 police helicopter in low approach at 3am, was thinking they were planning to land in the garden :)
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  1088. # [08:23] <Ms2ger> What'd you grow there? :)
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  1090. # [08:24] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nothing :) i guess something happened during the night in the neighbourhood
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  1092. # [08:24] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> or a airplane crashed here, but i guess i would noticed this also :)
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  1094. # [08:25] <Ms2ger> Maybe they were looking for the Malaysian one
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  1098. # [08:28] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
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  1102. # [08:32] <nigelb> Morning Tomcat|sheriffduty, Ms2ger
  1103. # [08:33] <Ms2ger> Hi nigelb
  1104. # [08:33] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hi nigelb
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  1109. # [08:38] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nalexander: pin
  1110. # [08:38] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> err ping
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  1113. # [08:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nalexander: could https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=35924334&tree=Fx-Team related to your push
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  1145. # [09:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> smontagu: ping
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  1148. # [09:06] <csomakk> hi! can anyone help me with strange build issue? http://ask.mozilla.org/question/223/firefox-mach-build-fails-with-does-not-match-the-static-pattern-cc/
  1149. # [09:06] <smontagu> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ppong
  1150. # [09:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey smontagu seems there is a test bustage on inbound after your push - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=35928066&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  1151. # [09:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> i guess its realted to bug 789096
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  1154. # [09:08] <smontagu> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I looked at that but didn't understand it
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  1156. # [09:09] <smontagu> i touched files that are mentioned in the log, but not where the failure is
  1157. # [09:09] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> sewardj_: ping
  1158. # [09:09] <sewardj_> Tomcat|sheriffduty: moin
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  1161. # [09:10] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey sewardj
  1162. # [09:10] <smontagu> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I suppose have to back out pending invetstigation ;(
  1163. # [09:10] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> seems the failure from smontagu is in the new valgrind tests
  1164. # [09:10] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> on tbpl
  1165. # [09:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> maybe you know what can cause this ?
  1166. # [09:11] <sewardj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: looking
  1167. # [09:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> smontagu: i think this valgrind tests are new enabled on tbpl
  1168. # [09:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> i can do the backout
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  1170. # [09:12] <sewardj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: maybe it's a bug in the changeset
  1171. # [09:12] <smontagu> is there something I can do locally to get a more informative error msg?
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  1178. # [09:15] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> smontagu: there is https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Debugging_Mozilla_with_Valgrind but no clue if this helps in this case maybe sewardj knows :)
  1179. # [09:16] <sewardj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: the most likely explanation is that this is a bug in the changeset (or potential bug exposed by it)
  1180. # [09:16] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah will back it out
  1181. # [09:16] <sewardj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: copy the V error message into the bug report
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  1183. # [09:21] * smontagu will try to push the changesets one by one to try with V then inbound
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  1187. # [09:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> smontagu: backout done
  1188. # [09:23] <smontagu> thanks Tomcat|sheriffduty
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  1197. # [09:28] <csomakk> hi! can anyone help me with strange build issue? http://ask.mozilla.org/question/223/firefox-mach-build-fails-with-does-not-match-the-static-pattern-cc/
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  1213. # [09:35] <gcp> csomakk: you're using cygwin style pathjs
  1214. # [09:35] <gcp> I'm pretty sure the windows build docs expressly say that doesn't work
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  1216. # [09:38] <csomakk> it said Make sure that the MozillaBuild directories (c:\mozilla-build and subdirectories) come before any cygwin directories in your PATH environment variable.
  1217. # [09:38] <csomakk> but ill remove them then
  1218. # [09:38] <gcp> no no
  1219. # [09:38] <gcp> the paths are the problem
  1220. # [09:38] <gcp> windows paths are like
  1221. # [09:38] <gcp> c:\dev\mozilla-central
  1222. # [09:38] <gcp> not c:/blah/
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  1225. # [09:39] <csomakk> where did I set those? can't find
  1226. # [09:39] <gcp> 0:03.79 MOZ_OBJDIR=$(TOPSRCDIR)/obj-ff
  1227. # [09:39] <gcp> 0:03.79 FOUND_MOZCONFIG := c:/dev/mozilla-central/.mozconfig
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  1229. # [09:41] <csomakk> If I set Mozconfig to mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=/c/dev/mozilla-source/obj-ff
  1230. # [09:41] <gcp> that's not a valid windows path
  1231. # [09:41] <csomakk> build throws 0:01.74 c:\dev\mozilla-central\client.mk:150:2:For Windows Pymake builds, MOZ_O BJDIR must be a Windows [and not MSYS] style path.
  1232. # [09:41] <gcp> right, that's exactly what it's saying
  1233. # [09:43] <gcp> c:/dev/mozilla-central/.mozconfig
  1234. # [09:43] <gcp> this isn't a windows path
  1235. # [09:44] <csomakk> if i go with mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=c:\dev\mozilla-central\obj-ff
  1236. # [09:44] <csomakk> it goes WindowsError: [Error 267] The directory name is invalid: u'c:\\dev\\mozilla-cent ral\\c:devmozilla-central'
  1237. # [09:44] <gcp> hmmm
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  1243. # [09:48] <gcp> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/pymake
  1244. # [09:48] <gcp> Note: On Windows, if using an absolute path MOZ_OBJDIR in your .mozconfig, it must be a Windows-style (i.e. c:/foo/bar) rather than an MSYS-style (i.e. /c/foo/bar) path.
  1245. # [09:48] <gcp> that's why I was saying that
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  1247. # [09:48] <gcp> oh, and looks like you can use unix slashes after all, so I was wrong
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  1252. # [09:50] <csomakk> with mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=c:/dev/mozilla-central/obj-ff i get the first error
  1253. # [09:50] <gcp> csomakk: can you try deleting your obj-ff dir if you haven't tried that already?>
  1254. # [09:50] <gcp> maybe some leftovers from an earlier attempt
  1255. # [09:50] <csomakk> i often cobber, but ill give it another go
  1256. # [09:50] <gcp> mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=c:/dev/mozilla-central/obj-ff should be fine, I was wrong
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  1281. # [10:04] <Optimize1> are all of the ongoing bc's in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=922d4fb32037 actually running on the same box ?
  1282. # [10:04] <Optimize1> :| Somehow I pinged someone.
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  1284. # [10:08] <ttaubert> Optimize1: doesn't look like your patch is at fault. that's just the current state of the tree :/
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  1289. # [10:13] <MacroMayhem> is there a project on speech based firefox navigation?
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  1293. # [10:14] <gcp> MacroMayhem: SpeechRTC
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  1295. # [10:15] <gcp> not sure if that really counts as navigation tho
  1296. # [10:15] <MacroMayhem> gcp: i tried contacting andrea natal :/ regarding this work. but in vain.. so was wondering ifsomeone elseworked on it ?
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  1310. # [10:26] <Optimize1> ttaubert: oh, I am not blaming my patch. I actually want them to run on the same box
  1311. # [10:27] <Optimize1> just confirming that that is the case
  1312. # [10:27] <ttaubert> Optimize1: you can click the orange and look at the "slave: " field
  1313. # [10:27] <ttaubert> Optimize1: looks like all of them are on different boxes
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  1320. # [10:33] <Optimize1> ttaubert: what about the ongoing ones ?
  1321. # [10:34] <ttaubert> Optimize1: you mean the oranges that occur multiple times? you can take a look yourself but like I said, they're all on different boxes
  1322. # [10:35] <Optimize1> no, I mean the ongoing bc's
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  1324. # [10:36] <ttaubert> also different boxes, just click the "bc" and look at "using slave: ..." in the lower left
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  1327. # [10:36] <ttaubert> if you want a single box to try something you need to lend it
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  1353. # [10:56] <gcp> hmm, we have GetFloat in prefs, but it seems our prefs.js doesn't actually support float data?
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  1358. # [11:01] <gcp> http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/modules/libpref/src/Preferences.cpp#1334
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  1360. # [11:01] <gcp> yurgh
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  1368. # [11:11] <whimboo> mak: i free you up from work! :)
  1369. # [11:11] <mak> whimboo: <3
  1370. # [11:12] <whimboo> mak: i could put something else in if you want :)
  1371. # [11:12] <mak> whimboo: heh
  1372. # [11:12] <mak> whimboo: thanks, btw, always appreciated
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  1381. # [11:21] <Optimize1> ttaubert: there is no slave thing until the build is complete.
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  1386. # [11:23] <ttaubert> Optimize1: yeah... looks like you'll have to wait
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  1433. # [12:02] <pranavk> schien: here are the new try server results, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=7963c891ff5a , the static rooting hazard analysis are still failing which acc. to me shouldn't be the case as there is nothing I have changed in the main patch since the last try push in which 'static rooting hazard' was passing.
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  1553. # [13:48] <mihaelav> hi Gijs
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  1555. # [13:48] <Gijs> mihaelav: hi
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  1559. # [13:48] <mib_ahys4p> hi
  1560. # [13:49] <mihaelav> Gijs: I'm thinking to make a patch for bug 947914 only with the no-new-window tests for the moment, to have at least them covered until I get the others to work. what do you think?
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  1562. # [13:51] <Gijs> mihaelav: sounds good. Try push would be useful to make sure that we really don't run into issues there.
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  1564. # [13:51] <mihaelav> Gijs: sure, I can do that now :)
  1565. # [13:52] <Gijs> mihaelav: great! :)
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  1711. # [15:18] <RattyAway> Crash reporter did not start but user has a call stack extracted from a minidump
  1712. # [15:18] <RattyAway> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978718#c3
  1713. # [15:18] <RattyAway> "A heap has been corrupted"
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  1715. # [15:19] <RattyAway> So probably the stack is bogus. Who would be the best person to look at this?
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  1718. # [15:20] <doctor> I have a bug open since 2011 which says "requires UX feedback"
  1719. # [15:20] <doctor> is there a way to prompt them?
  1720. # [15:20] <jesup> doctor: do a needinfo to the appropriate person on the UX team I imagine
  1721. # [15:21] <RattyAway> doctor: There is a needsinfo flag available in Bugzilla now
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  1726. # [15:21] <RattyAway> doctor: which component is your bug in?
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  1728. # [15:23] <RattyAway> KaiRo: are there any similar reports in crash-stats?
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  1730. # [15:24] <KaiRo> RattyAway: well, crash-stats can only have reports that actually have crash reporter working
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  1733. # [15:25] <KaiRo> RattyAway: that said, I commented in the bug, I'd like to see if SM 2.25 (Gecko 28) or newer have this problem still
  1734. # [15:25] <RattyAway> KaiRo: ah good idea
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  1755. # [15:34] <csomakk> hi! can anyone help me with strange build issue? http://ask.mozilla.org/question/223/firefox-mach-build-fails-with-does-not-match-the-static-pattern-cc/
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  1769. # [15:37] * nbp fails to understand OOP in Gecko. Why classes have to implement so many interfaces? Is that a way to prevent back-pointers from a member to the encapsulating class?
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  1771. # [15:37] <Ms2ger> Never done much COM programming, have you?
  1772. # [15:37] <nbp> Ms2ger: no.
  1773. # [15:38] <Ms2ger> "You can only use another object through an interface"
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  1777. # [15:38] <Ms2ger> Preferably, an interface exposed through XPCOM to JS and Perl and PHP and whatever you like
  1778. # [15:38] <nbp> Ms2ger: I understand, but why do classes have to inherit from 10 interfaces?
  1779. # [15:39] <Ms2ger> Such as?
  1780. # [15:39] <@smaug> because they need to implement many interfaces
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  1783. # [15:39] <@smaug> some class may need to be EventTarget and also an nsIObserver
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  1785. # [15:39] <doctor> jesup: RattyAway: sorry, missed your replies - looking now
  1786. # [15:39] <Ms2ger> And nsSupportsWeakReference
  1787. # [15:39] <@smaug> right
  1788. # [15:40] <doctor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627574
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  1790. # [15:40] <@smaug> so that is already 3, everything totally valid
  1791. # [15:40] <@smaug> sure there are cases when interfaces should be merged
  1792. # [15:40] <@smaug> that has been happening slowly
  1793. # [15:40] <Ms2ger> And then you walk into docshell/base/...
  1794. # [15:40] <@smaug> yup
  1795. # [15:40] <@smaug> nsDocShell is getting better, slowly
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  1797. # [15:40] <@smaug> but it is kind of the worst case
  1798. # [15:41] <evilpie> TabChild
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  1801. # [15:41] <@smaug> well, it uses Embedding APIs
  1802. # [15:41] <@smaug> some of those interfaces could be merged (the * and *2 at least)
  1803. # [15:41] <@bsmedberg> overholt: is web activities ever going to be standards-track?
  1804. # [15:41] <Ms2ger> Or nsGlobalWindow
  1805. # [15:41] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: you forgot Python
  1806. # [15:42] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, I did indeed
  1807. # [15:42] <jcranmer> pyxpcom is the only other bindings that kind of works
  1808. # [15:42] <evilpie> aren't these all dead now?
  1809. # [15:42] <jcranmer> javaxpcom is dead
  1810. # [15:42] <@smaug> bsmedberg: it was in standard-track at some point, IIRC
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  1812. # [15:42] <Ms2ger> evilpie, yes
  1813. # [15:42] <@bsmedberg> smaug: hrm, was just reading the giant warning at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/WebAPI/Web_Activities
  1814. # [15:42] <@smaug> evilpie: no
  1815. # [15:42] <Ms2ger> evilpie, but large parts of Gecko were designed in the nineties
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  1817. # [15:42] <@smaug> bsmedberg: I said it was
  1818. # [15:42] <jcranmer> evilpie: pyxpcom I think is in zombie state
  1819. # [15:42] <@bsmedberg> smaug: oh so "no longer"?
  1820. # [15:43] <evilpie> when did that work for the last time? 2009
  1821. # [15:43] <@bsmedberg> pyxpcom is dead
  1822. # [15:43] <@smaug> evilpie: oh, you meant py*
  1823. # [15:43] <@smaug> I was talking about embedding
  1824. # [15:43] <evilpie> oh
  1825. # [15:43] <jcranmer> pyxpcom was killed off in 2012-2013
  1826. # [15:44] <jcranmer> I thought active state was pushing it harder to keep it alive
  1827. # [15:44] <evilpie> I always heard the embedding API was dead and it took me a long time to realize e10s uses it
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  1829. # [15:44] <jcranmer> http://hg.mozilla.org/pyxpcom/
  1830. # [15:44] <jcranmer> *someone* is still trying to keep it up-to-date
  1831. # [15:44] <@smaug> bsmedberg: so IIRC, mounir could say more, Chrome had something similar too, but it was just too tricky to get right and they removed it
  1832. # [15:45] <@smaug> bsmedberg: and we have activities only for FFOS
  1833. # [15:45] <@bsmedberg> smaug: yeah, I'm trying to figure out if native apps exposing an activity on desktop Firefox makes any sense
  1834. # [15:45] <@smaug> perhaps DAP WG's charter has something...
  1835. # [15:45] <@bsmedberg> because that's basically waht several of the NPAPI plugins are doing
  1836. # [15:45] <overholt> bsmedberg, good question. not a huge priority right now.
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  1838. # [15:46] <@smaug> There is http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/#webintents
  1839. # [15:46] <RattyAway> doctor: this probably needs to go to the Firefox UX team (no idea who they are though)
  1840. # [15:46] <overholt> bsmedberg, ideally in the future. smaug is referring to web intents
  1841. # [15:47] <@bsmedberg> are intents and activities two ways to solve the same problem?
  1842. # [15:47] <doctor> bsmedberg: on android?
  1843. # [15:47] <doctor> bsmedberg: no
  1844. # [15:47] <@bsmedberg> doctor: no
  1845. # [15:47] <@bsmedberg> ignore android
  1846. # [15:47] <overholt> bsmedberg, kind of but different scope
  1847. # [15:47] <doctor> bsmedberg: what are you referring to ?
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  1849. # [15:47] <@bsmedberg> doctor: ^^ web intents, the discussion just above
  1850. # [15:47] <doctor> bsmedberg: ah, sorry,
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  1856. # [15:49] <nbp> Ms2ger: my question is more like, why do the state of a class leak through a list of inherited classes, such as nsJARChannel? I feel that the other interfaces are not something that we want to expose publicly.
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  1859. # [15:50] <doctor> RattyAway: is there a way to poke them on the bug tracker?
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  1871. # [15:55] <RattyAway> doctor: don't know. Under keywords there are several ux-* flags perhaps you could add the relevant flags. Also post to the relevant mailing-list/newsgroup
  1872. # [15:55] <fabrice> web intents are dead
  1873. # [15:55] <fabrice> since chrome removed support in 24
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  1878. # [15:56] <Ms2ger> nbp, nsJARChannel looks mostly like poorly-implemented closures
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  1885. # [15:58] <overholt> fabrice, oh, I didn't know that
  1886. # [15:58] <nbp> fabrice: are they suggesting something else, did they explain why they removed it?
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  1929. # [16:19] <fabrice> nbp: they said they would revisit the topic, but they could not find good solutions to some UX issues
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  1937. # [16:24] <@mounir> bsmedberg: why do you want to get Web Activities in the standard track?
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  1940. # [16:27] <@bsmedberg> mounir: I want to be able to replace some NPAPI plugins such as in bug 980772
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  1943. # [16:28] <@bsmedberg> with native apps automatically exposing "something" to web content
  1944. # [16:28] * pmoore|away is now known as pmoore
  1945. # [16:28] <@bsmedberg> but that really requires a spec that's nailed down
  1946. # [16:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> kats: ping
  1947. # [16:30] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: pong
  1948. # [16:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> kats: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=35942357&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  1949. # [16:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> kats: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/01de281bca37
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  1951. # [16:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ok to just remove the |nsIPresShell* presShell = pc->PresShell();| line?
  1952. # [16:30] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: whoops. yup that should fix it
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  1954. # [16:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> cool, thanks
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  1961. # [16:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> romaxa: inbound bustage - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=35942752&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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  1964. # [16:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> romaxa: missing a gfxPrefs.h include?
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  1979. # [16:51] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: in response to "Let me know what you think"... hmm, well, you're awesome? :)
  1980. # [16:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: can't help but worry that I'm biting off more than I can chew, though :P
  1981. # [16:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but WTH
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  1983. # [16:52] <@ehsan> well, the cat's out of the bag now!
  1984. # [16:52] <@ehsan> there is no turning back ;)
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  1986. # [16:53] <@ehsan> Callek|Buildduty: ping
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  1989. # [16:54] <Callek|Buildduty> pong?
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  2000. # [16:57] <@ehsan> Callek|Buildduty: how are our tegras doing?
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  2002. # [16:58] <Callek|Buildduty> ehsan: I think the clean ones are fine, my sweeping cleanup of hung ones didn't work as well as expected I'm trying to clean that up now --- I wouldn't worry from your end unless this intermittent still has issues
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  2006. # [16:59] <@ehsan> Callek|Buildduty: alrighty, thanks very much!
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  2013. # [17:02] <Cork> i've been looking at bug 649849 a bit, anyone know if there is any plan for how it should be fixed?
  2014. # [17:02] <Cork> i see references to "plaining to talk" but no references to a consensus or anything similar
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  2016. # [17:03] <Cork> anyone have any additional info?
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  2018. # [17:04] <romaxa> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yep, sorry, lost it somehow
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  2035. # [17:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jchen: inbound bustage
  2036. # [17:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jchen: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=35944025&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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  2039. # [17:17] <jchen> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ah. should be a one line fix. should i back out or push a fix?
  2040. # [17:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> just fix it
  2041. # [17:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> (I'm assuming you've otherwise tested this locally?)
  2042. # [17:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and this isn't indicative of a lack of that?
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  2047. # [17:21] <jchen> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah i tested locally, but i guess i didn't turn on warning as error for my local build
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  2049. # [17:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> k, then please push ASAP
  2050. # [17:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> tree's closed
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  2059. # [17:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jchen: any ETA? Gonna backout otherwise so I can get inbound reopened
  2060. # [17:26] <jchen> RyanVM|sheriffduty: just pushed a fix
  2061. # [17:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> thanks
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  2063. # [17:26] <Ms2ger> Dammit firebot
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  2068. # [17:29] <Waldo> Ms2ger: lack thereof?
  2069. # [17:29] <Ms2ger> Yep
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  2087. # [17:34] <KWierso|brb> waldo--
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  2090. # [17:35] <froydnj> consult treestatus to make it better :)
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  2093. # [17:35] <Ms2ger> Make it a pulse consumer
  2094. # [17:35] <kats> Waldo: why not just mark it checkin-needed?
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  2097. # [17:35] <Ms2ger> That's not what the cool kids do
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  2101. # [17:36] <kats> the cool kids like wasting build resources with their individual one-line patches?
  2102. # [17:36] * pmoore|away is now known as pmoore
  2103. # [17:36] <kats> i do it too, so i guess i must be cool too
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  2105. # [17:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> kats: and their one-liner bustage fixes ;)
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  2107. # [17:37] <Waldo> kats: partly because I like pushing my own stuff to simplify mq management, partly because then I'm around in case wrinkles manifest, partly because I'm old skool
  2108. # [17:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ZING!
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  2110. # [17:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Waldo: bust away
  2111. # [17:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> why not, all your coworkers are
  2112. # [17:37] <RattyAway> What does this mean? error C3861: 'do_CreateInstance': identifier not found
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  2114. # [17:37] <RattyAway> What header file do I need to include?
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  2117. # [17:39] <dholbert> RattyAway, mxr can help
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  2119. # [17:39] <dholbert> RattyAway, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ident?i=do_CreateInstance says nsComponentManagerUtils.h is what you want
  2120. # [17:39] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I don't always bust inbound, but when I do, my fixes are never one-line fixes ;)
  2121. # [17:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lol
  2122. # [17:40] <RattyAway> dholbert: mxr says more than 1000 hits...
  2123. # [17:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: I like that term - zbarsky-inbound
  2124. # [17:41] <dholbert> RattyAway, click on any linkified "do_CreateInstance" text in your standard MXR search
  2125. # [17:41] <dholbert> RattyAway, that takes you to an Identifier search
  2126. # [17:41] <RattyAway> i see.
  2127. # [17:41] <dholbert> which says "Defined as a function in...." at the top, which is what youw ant
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  2131. # [17:42] <dholbert> RattyAway, alternately, you can do a full-text MXR search and just limit it to .h files, by putting .h$ in the "files matching" field
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  2133. # [17:42] <dholbert> (that has 42 hits, which is more skimmable than 1000 :) )
  2134. # [17:42] <RattyAway> dholbert: great!
  2135. # [17:43] <Cork> i've been looking at bug 649849 a bit, anyone know if there is any plan for how it should be fixed?
  2136. # [17:43] <Cork> i see references to "plaining to talk" but no references to a consensus or anything similar
  2137. # [17:43] <Cork> anyone have any additional info?
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  2139. # [17:44] <dholbert> Cork, you probably want to ask someone who was involved with that bug
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  2143. # [17:45] <Cork> dholbert: i'm not completely sure who that would be
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  2148. # [17:48] <dholbert> Cork, mounir, probably? He's no longer MoCo, but he's on IRC. (I suspect the answer might just be "there never ended up being a solid plan")
  2149. # [17:48] <dholbert> Cork, alternately, you could post to dev.tech.layout or dev.platform, asking if there's any interest / plan
  2150. # [17:49] <Cork> dholbert: that sounds better
  2151. # [17:49] <Cork> dholbert: the bug seams low prio enough that i possibly could poke at it ^^
  2152. # [17:50] <Cork> dholbert: thx for the info, i'll hit the mailing list
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  2155. # [17:52] <@mounir> Cork: yeah, there were discussions but they never went very far
  2156. # [17:52] <dholbert> Cork, np!
  2157. # [17:52] <@mounir> and people tend to say "Web Components/Shadow DOM/whatever" will save us from all that hell
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  2159. # [17:53] <Cork> mounir: well i hit a situation today where i need to disable a select box (si sizes) when the input field isn't editable
  2160. # [17:53] <Cork> and i want it to look like a span
  2161. # [17:54] <Cork> so i got interested in trying to get select to handle this
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  2163. # [17:54] <Optimizer> hg is super slow today
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  2165. # [17:54] <Optimizer> stuck at adding manifests step for last hour
  2166. # [17:54] <Optimizer> since*
  2167. # [17:54] <Cork> mounir: where there any directions if apperance or the ms way (or any other one) is prefered?
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  2170. # [17:55] <Optimizer> cancelled, recovered and pulling again 4th time
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  2172. # [17:55] <Cork> i would like to dig into the code a bit before announcing it too much
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  2175. # [17:56] <dholbert> Cork, does "-moz-appearance: textfield" solve your problem?
  2176. # [17:56] <dholbert> Cork, data:text/html,<select style="-moz-appearance: textfield"><option>hello
  2177. # [17:56] <Cork> dholbert: no
  2178. # [17:56] <Cork> dholbert: since the arrow fix that landed a few days ago there is no way to remove it
  2179. # [17:56] <Cork> except removing the select element
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  2183. # [17:57] <Cork> (bug 963970)
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  2187. # [17:58] <dholbert> Cork, I don't know about the context there, but it's possible that this indicates a regression from that patch which we should fix
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  2192. # [17:59] <dholbert> Cork, anyway, /me stops driveby'ing and gets back to work :)
  2193. # [17:59] <Cork> :)
  2194. # [17:59] <Cork> dholbert: thx for caring ^^
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  2213. # [18:04] <Standard8> no m-i to m-c merge yet today?
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  2254. # [18:25] <Ms2ger> dbaron, sounds good :)
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  2268. # [18:35] <@ehsan> jimm: ping
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  2277. # [18:39] <jimm> ehsan: pong
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  2279. # [18:40] <@ehsan> jimm: does Firefox Metro require a touch caret for XUL documents?
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  2281. # [18:41] <jimm> well if the document had a text input, we would expect them to show up
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  2283. # [18:42] <@ehsan> jimm: ok, so just as a heads-up, the thing being implemented in bug 924692 doesn't support XUL documents for now
  2284. # [18:42] <jimm> that's cool
  2285. # [18:42] <@ehsan> we can add support for them later, but it will require a bit of work
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  2287. # [18:42] <@bsmedberg> vladan: bent: jld: bug 943174 is blocking bug 933680. Anyone volunteer?
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  2294. # [18:45] <bent> bsmedberg, jld would be my vote :) I'm pretty swamped
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  2296. # [18:46] * @bsmedberg hopes jst agrees!
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  2304. # [18:50] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: nsSupportsWeakReference isn't an interface, don't let me catch you putting it in NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS macro :-P
  2305. # [18:50] <Ms2ger> Ha
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  2314. # [18:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=35946218&tree=Fx-Team
  2315. # [18:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs: couple like that on fx-team
  2316. # [18:52] <Gijs> RyanVM|sheriffduty: looking
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  2322. # [18:55] <Gijs> RyanVM|sheriffduty: blegh, seems random? :\
  2323. # [18:55] <Gijs> but very high frequency
  2324. # [18:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yeah, 2 instances in 2 consecutive pushes isn't encouraging
  2325. # [18:55] <Gijs> right
  2326. # [18:55] <Gijs> but on different versions of windows, rest is all green
  2327. # [18:56] <Gijs> weird
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  2329. # [18:56] <Gijs> I'm rebuilding on Windows, only 14 csets on fx-team with no merges, so should be done soon, and then I'll try and repro locally. :\
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  2331. # [18:57] * Gijs did run tests on his OS X box before pushing :|
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  2334. # [18:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs: ok, I was targeting the push below yours for the next merge anyway
  2335. # [18:58] <Gijs> RyanVM|sheriffduty: right. If I don't figure this out in the next 20 minutes or so I'll either back out the test or disable it on Windows :|
  2336. # [18:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> wfm :)
  2337. # [18:58] <Gijs> s/back out the test/back out
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  2339. # [18:59] <Gijs> OS X debug failure now, too.
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  2358. # [19:08] * jld tries to make sense of https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/nsprpub/pr/src/md/unix/uxproces.c#797
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  2361. # [19:09] <Ms2ger> It's nspr, I wouldn't try :)
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  2363. # [19:09] <Gijs> RyanVM|sheriffduty: alright, pushing a nullcheck followup in a few minutes :)
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  2365. # [19:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ok
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  2372. # [19:12] <jld> bent: (or bsmedberg) So are we trying to wait on the same process from NSPR *and* IPC?
  2373. # [19:13] <@bsmedberg> jld: not intentionally
  2374. # [19:13] <@bsmedberg> jld: the OS re-used the PId
  2375. # [19:13] <jld> Oh, I see.
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  2377. # [19:14] <jld> So the spurious wait from the IPC code grabbed the exitedness from the mailcap handler (or whatever).
  2378. # [19:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and bmo's having problems again...
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  2386. # [19:21] <marco> is it still necessary to report exceptions thrown in a task, or does task.jsm report them automatically?
  2387. # [19:21] <jld> bsmedberg: Do we ever have non-IPC child processes on b2g?
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  2389. # [19:21] <@bsmedberg> jld: we will at some point, yes
  2390. # [19:21] <rillian> bugzilla slow/failing for anyone else?
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  2394. # [19:22] <jdover> rillian: yes :-/
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  2396. # [19:22] <jdover> rillian: seems to be attachments again
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  2398. # [19:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jdover: rillian: known issue
  2399. # [19:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> IT's working on it (yay)
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  2401. # [19:25] <rillian> yay. It's been getting slower all morning, but I'm not getting 500 errors
  2402. # [19:25] <jld> bsmedberg: So, even if I fix the problem of waitpid'ing an already-waited child, there's also the problem that with Nuwa it might actually be a grandchild, so we're waiting in the wrong process.
  2403. # [19:25] <rillian> reyre: further reviews may have to wait a bit
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  2405. # [19:25] * nalexander can't post to Bugzilla, DB errors.
  2406. # [19:25] <reyre> rillian: sure, no worries
  2407. # [19:25] <@bsmedberg> jld: oh I think you can assume that NUWA processes won't have these children
  2408. # [19:25] <@bsmedberg> I hope...
  2409. # [19:26] <@bsmedberg> maybe we should assert that somewhere
  2410. # [19:26] <jdover> rillian: just got a 500 error
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  2412. # [19:26] <jld> bsmedberg: Right, but... I guess in that case we can just note how the ContentParent was constructed and entirely refrain from waiting.
  2413. # [19:27] * rillian changes topic to 'Next uplift 17 Mar || bugzilla slow/500; being worked on || Want help, or want to help others? See #introduction || http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=developers.'
  2414. # [19:27] <jld> ...although, given that Nuwa can send AddNewProcess to the parent, it ought to be able to send back death info.
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  2418. # [19:29] <jld> bsmedberg: So, also... how much of a problem is it that DidProcessCrash basically never works as intended?
  2419. # [19:29] <rillian> RyanVM|sheriffduty: is the table change for the 24 bit issue stil running?
  2420. # [19:29] <@bsmedberg> jld: that seems like the core problem
  2421. # [19:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> rillian: I think this is something else, but things should be getting now per #it
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  2424. # [19:30] * froydnj was just able to add an attachment
  2425. # [19:31] <tbsaunde> khuey: you have a patch for 982212?
  2426. # [19:31] <@khuey> tbsaunde: yes
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  2429. # [19:32] <tbsaunde> khuey: great, I was just about to get stuck doing it
  2430. # [19:32] <@khuey> tbsaunde: why?
  2431. # [19:32] * tbsaunde sits back and lets khuey does his work for him
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  2434. # [19:33] <tbsaunde> khuey: surkov has a patch that will need AppendElement(Item&&) and talked me into adding that
  2435. # [19:33] <surkov> true
  2436. # [19:33] <tbsaunde> so yeah khuey++ ;)
  2437. # [19:34] * froydnj wishes he could have khuey for a minion
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  2439. # [19:34] <@ehsan> froydnj: file a servicenow
  2440. # [19:34] <Ms2ger> Get me one too?
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  2442. # [19:35] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I can't figure out how to incentivize it and make merging it not a total pain, but other than that having a zbarsky-inbound for patches that will rebuild the world and probably need a followup or two would actually be a really good idea
  2443. # [19:35] <rillian> froydnj: my review comment went through as well
  2444. # [19:35] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: why not?
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  2449. # [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sounds like we've got a bidding war on our hands
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  2451. # [19:36] <@ehsan> no need for a war, just donate to cloning research!
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  2455. # [19:37] <davidb> what is the optimal number of khueys?
  2456. # [19:37] <@ehsan> infinity - 1
  2457. # [19:37] <tbsaunde> ehsan: or time travel!
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  2459. # [19:38] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: doesn't need to be a dichotomy ;)
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  2462. # [19:38] <froydnj> ehsan: cloning *and* time travel? servicenow really delivers!
  2463. # [19:38] <davidb> or it will, in the future past
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  2465. # [19:39] <@khuey> be careful what you wish for
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  2467. # [19:39] <@khuey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6MlHxAzLXA
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  2476. # [19:48] <@ehsan> gavin: ping
  2477. # [19:48] <@gavin> ehsan: pong
  2478. # [19:49] <@ehsan> gavin: how is your review queue looking these days?
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  2480. # [19:49] <@ehsan> gavin: oh wait, you did respond!
  2481. # [19:49] <@ehsan> bugzilla fail :(
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  2483. # [19:50] <@ehsan> gavin: replied on the bug
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  2490. # [19:54] <@bsmedberg> armenzg_brb: you landed a change to disable which tests on inbound?
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  2492. # [19:54] <@gavin> ehsan: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=931904#c11
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  2494. # [19:55] <@ehsan> gavin: by after that line, you mean after setSelectionRange() call?
  2495. # [19:55] <@gavin> ehsan: (refresh to see latest comment)
  2496. # [19:55] <@ehsan> yes saw that
  2497. # [19:55] <@gavin> yes
  2498. # [19:55] <@ehsan> oh wait
  2499. # [19:55] <@ehsan> looking at c12 now
  2500. # [19:56] <@ehsan> gavin: the event is async
  2501. # [19:56] <@gavin> well fiddlesticks
  2502. # [19:56] <@ehsan> that's why adding that line won't work
  2503. # [19:56] <@ehsan> indeed
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  2505. # [19:57] <@ehsan> gavin: just to be clear, this patch is a hack built on top of another hack
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  2507. # [19:57] <@ehsan> gavin: the original code is broken if the input box doesn't have a frame
  2508. # [19:57] <@gavin> which original code?
  2509. # [19:57] <@ehsan> I'm not adding more broken-ness
  2510. # [19:57] <@ehsan> the "select" handler
  2511. # [19:58] <@ehsan> gavin: I filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=982145 to lift the dependency on the frame being available but that doesn't need to block this bug
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  2514. # [20:02] <philor> bsmedberg: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2bb79e7e5e0f - a tabview and a devtools
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  2542. # [20:14] <Waldo> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I will accept your apology now for not busting the tree this time
  2543. # [20:14] <Waldo> ;-)
  2544. # [20:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Waldo: lol
  2545. # [20:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> damn, I already had a penance bug ready for you too
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  2554. # [20:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> cool, just managed a push from my linux vm
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  2557. # [20:19] <NeilAway> gavin: shouldn't urlbarbindings override autocomplete's implementation of selectTextRange?
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  2574. # [20:27] <armenzg> bsmedberg, jmaher did
  2575. # [20:27] <armenzg> it is related to the chunking into 3 work
  2576. # [20:27] <@gavin> NeilAway: certainly that patch won't work well as-is
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  2579. # [20:28] <jmaher> bsmedberg: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981701
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  2603. # [20:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs: so much for that idea
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  2605. # [20:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: bleh, that ctypes error on asan runs is really spammy
  2606. # [20:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> (now that we see it on tbpl anyway :P)
  2607. # [20:46] <Gijs_away> RyanVM|sheriffduty: hrm?
  2608. # [20:46] * Gijs_away is now known as Gijs
  2609. # [20:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs_away: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=35952938&tree=Fx-Team
  2610. # [20:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> on your follow-up push
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  2613. # [20:47] <Gijs> wtf
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  2615. # [20:48] <Gijs> different error, but all the same, wat
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  2621. # [20:52] <Gijs> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I'm busy with life things in the next hour or two, so I guess I'm just going to back myself out. I reran tests a bunch of times locally when I pushed the followup, and I didn't see that.
  2622. # [20:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ok
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  2636. # [20:59] <@ehsan> gerv: ping
  2637. # [20:59] <gerv> pong.
  2638. # [20:59] <@ehsan> gerv: hey. about your reply, that email looks like it was sent to me?
  2639. # [21:00] <gerv> Yes,,,>
  2640. # [21:00] <gerv> ?
  2641. # [21:00] <@ehsan> and not to the list
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  2643. # [21:00] <gerv> It's definitely on the list.
  2644. # [21:00] <@ehsan> o_O
  2645. # [21:00] <gerv> I can read it in the newsgroup version.
  2646. # [21:00] <@ehsan> oh
  2647. # [21:00] <@ehsan> did you use nntp?
  2648. # [21:00] <gerv> Yes.
  2649. # [21:00] <@ehsan> :(
  2650. # [21:00] <@ehsan> I bet the nntp bridge is busted
  2651. # [21:01] <@ehsan> and that my reply is not on the newsgroup
  2652. # [21:01] <gerv> Well, you replied only to me, right? You said so...
  2653. # [21:01] <gerv> or do you mean a different reply?
  2654. # [21:01] <mccr8> RyanVM|sheriffduty: is there a bug on that ASAN failure? it is probably just a missing null check or something. you could ping sfink about it or something.
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  2656. # [21:01] <sfink> me who what?
  2657. # [21:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: i hadn't filed it, no
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  2660. # [21:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sfink: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=35953132&tree=Fx-Team
  2661. # [21:02] <mccr8> sfink: there's some intermittent ASAN null deref involving ctypes
  2662. # [21:02] <@ehsan> gerv: I hit Reply All in gmail
  2663. # [21:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sfink: mccr8: non-fatal, fwiw
  2664. # [21:02] <gerv> Hmm.
  2665. # [21:02] <@ehsan> your email has the Newsgroups: mozilla.dev.webapi header set
  2666. # [21:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> we (my team) only learned about it today when we began highlighting ASAN errors more obviously in the logs
  2667. # [21:02] <@ehsan> but gmail doesn't understand that
  2668. # [21:02] <sfink> oh. Well, at the moment, mochitest-chrome has taken over my computer
  2669. # [21:02] <gerv> You mean the message where you said "(Not sure if you meant to reply to me privately, if not, please feel free to forward my reply to the list!)", or a different message?
  2670. # [21:02] <@ehsan> gerv: we used to get a CC to the email address of the list on nntp responses
  2671. # [21:03] <@ehsan> gerv: yes
  2672. # [21:03] <@ehsan> that message
  2673. # [21:03] <gerv> So the message that came to you via the mailing list gateway
  2674. # [21:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: I'm about to head off for the day, so I probably won't get to filing it
  2675. # [21:03] <gerv> should have had a Reply-To or a From of the list address.
  2676. # [21:03] <gerv> One or the other.
  2677. # [21:03] <gerv> If it didn't have that, then that's the problem.
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  2680. # [21:03] <@ehsan> gerv: yes it has neither
  2681. # [21:03] <@ehsan> gerv: should I file another bug?
  2682. # [21:04] <Gijs> RyanVM|sheriffduty: backed out, fwiw. Thanks for your patience. :(
  2683. # [21:04] <gerv> Or comment in one of the existing ones.
  2684. # [21:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gijs: no prob, like I said, it didn't really interfere with anything :)
  2685. # [21:04] <@ehsan> gerv: which one is the right one?
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  2687. # [21:04] <gerv> ehsan: Anything assigned to someone from server-ops.
  2688. # [21:04] <gerv> I dunno.
  2689. # [21:05] <@ehsan> ok
  2690. # [21:09] <tbsaunde> gerv: did you relize your last message to dev-webapi has 2 to: headers?
  2691. # [21:10] <gerv> tbsaunde: You mean the one that starts "ehsan says"?
  2692. # [21:10] <gerv> It certainly doesn't in the copy in my sent-mail folder.
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  2694. # [21:10] <tbsaunde> gerv: yes
  2695. # [21:10] <Ms2ger> Sounds like someone's messages are confusing people :)
  2696. # [21:10] <@ehsan> gerv: fwiw that reply I can see through the list
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  2698. # [21:12] <tbsaunde> gerv: here's the raw message as I got it http://pastebin.com/psjaejFW
  2699. # [21:12] <tbsaunde> maybe some mail clients just show the first one?
  2700. # [21:13] <gerv> Is multiple To: headers bad?
  2701. # [21:13] <gerv> Surely I can send a message To: two people?
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  2703. # [21:13] <tbsaunde> gerv: no clue, but I can't say that I've seen it before and it seemed pretty odd
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  2705. # [21:14] <tbsaunde> I'd expect to: blah, bar not to: bar\nto: bah
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  2728. # [21:27] <jcranmer|away> gerv: RFC 822/2822/5322 allows 0-infinity To headers
  2729. # [21:27] <jcranmer|away> as well as Cc and Bcc headers
  2730. # [21:27] <gerv> Thought so.
  2731. # [21:28] <sfink> could everyone please remove all your bugs? They're getting in the way of me tracking down my bug.
  2732. # [21:29] <@khuey> rm -rf ./
  2733. # [21:29] <@khuey> hg commit -m "Remove all the bugs"
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  2735. # [21:29] <Yoric> RyanVM: ping
  2736. # [21:29] <@khuey> hg push
  2737. # [21:29] <@dbaron> you forgot the -A argument to commit
  2738. # [21:30] <sfink> impressive bit of pedantry there. I didn't even notice.
  2739. # [21:31] <RyanVM> Yoric: pong
  2740. # [21:32] <tbsaunde> jcranmer|away: I'd expect that from the spec, but I wonder if most mail clients dtrt
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  2742. # [21:32] <Yoric> RyanVM: Could you backout my latest patch for bug 965527?
  2743. # [21:33] <Yoric> It seems to create more issues than it solves.
  2744. # [21:33] <jcranmer|away> tbsaunde: I would consider it a bug if they didn't
  2745. # [21:33] <RyanVM> KWierso ^
  2746. # [21:33] <RyanVM> (I'm about to head out
  2747. # [21:33] <RyanVM> )
  2748. # [21:33] <KWierso|sheriffduty> Yoric: sure
  2749. # [21:33] <Yoric> Thanks.
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  2751. # [21:34] <Yoric> Between my low level of hg-fu and the fact that I'm sick, I don't trust myself to do it.
  2752. # [21:34] * jlin_ is now known as jlin
  2753. # [21:35] <Ms2ger> jcranmer|away, a bug in a mail client? Now that's unexpected.
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  2757. # [21:37] <tbsaunde> jcranmer|away: don't you like to talk about how many bugs there are in mail clients?
  2758. # [21:37] <KWierso|sheriffduty> Yoric: done
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  2760. # [21:37] <Yoric> Thanks.
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  2762. # [21:38] <jcranmer|away> tbsaunde: this is flagrant-violation-of-basic-specification level of bugginess, not you-can't-handle-things-masquerading-as-email-messages bugginess
  2763. # [21:39] <tbsaunde> fair
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  2765. # [21:39] <hub> jcranmer|away: that's Zimbra you are talking about, aren't you?
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  2767. # [21:40] <jcranmer|away> I have statistics on how often people violate specifications
  2768. # [21:40] <jcranmer|away> which I haven't quite gotten around to posting online yet
  2769. # [21:40] <jcranmer|away> it's really, really sad
  2770. # [21:40] <Ms2ger> Ha
  2771. # [21:40] <Ms2ger> 99%?
  2772. # [21:41] * pmoore|away is now known as pmoore
  2773. # [21:41] <jcranmer|away> one of my scariest finds was a message that had
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  2775. # [21:41] <jcranmer|away> Subject: Re: [Kitchen Nightmares] Meow! Gordon Ramsay Is =?ISO-8859-1?B?UEgR lqZ VuIEhlYWQgVH rbGeOIFNob BJc RP2JzZXNzZW?= With My =?ISO-8859-1?B?SHVzYmFuZ JzX0JhbGxzL JfU2F5c19BbXiScw==?= Baking Company Owner
  2776. # [21:42] <Ms2ger> tmi
  2777. # [21:42] <jcranmer|away> that violates RFC 2047 not once but twice (no spaces in encoded words, and illegal chars in base64)
  2778. # [21:42] * benvie_ is now known as benvie
  2779. # [21:42] <jcranmer|away> and the result doesn't even appear to be ISO-8859-1 in the first place
  2780. # [21:43] <nthomas> which bugzilla component should I file https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/aa847442-e4dc-4fe5-a276-68abd2140311 in ?
  2781. # [21:43] <Ms2ger> I bet Outlook handles it fine
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  2783. # [21:43] <@khuey> nthomas: layout, probably
  2784. # [21:43] <nthomas> thx
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  2786. # [21:44] <jcranmer|away> Outlook's mime handling is pretty shit
  2787. # [21:44] <jcranmer|away> you give it a slightly-weird message and the entire document goes "poof we don't know what you meant"
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  2789. # [21:44] <jcranmer|away> granted, proper mime handling is next to impossible
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  2791. # [21:46] <sfink> just turn off the lights and hide the face paint?
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  2793. # [21:46] <tbsaunde> have they atleast fixed the thing where it can't understand gpg signed messages?
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  2799. # [21:48] <Callek|buildduty> mconley: ping
  2800. # [21:48] <mconley> Callek|buildduty: pong
  2801. # [21:48] <Callek|buildduty> mconley: sooo you requested Bug 981719 -- the bug you reference as needing this host for is reso fixed, still want it?
  2802. # [21:49] <mconley> Callek|buildduty: I do - it's been marked resolved because we did a backout of a thing that is slow, but I want to find out why it's slow if I can.
  2803. # [21:49] <mconley> and that's why I need the slave
  2804. # [21:49] * jlund|lunch is now known as jlund
  2805. # [21:49] <Callek|buildduty> mconley: o, ok, can you additionally link your request up with whatever bug is tracking the code you wish to investigate then
  2806. # [21:49] <Callek|buildduty> please and thank you
  2807. # [21:50] <mconley> Callek|buildduty: sure thing
  2808. # [21:50] <Callek|buildduty> just crossing some T's
  2809. # [21:50] <mconley> sure
  2810. # [21:51] <sfink> I just escaped the gdb symbol dumping loop of doom by gdbing my gdb and forcing it to return early
  2811. # [21:51] <sfink> I'm not sure how I feel now
  2812. # [21:51] <RyanVM> OMFG, rm -rf is sooo much faster on linux than windows msys
  2813. # [21:51] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM: yes
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  2815. # [21:51] <RyanVM> (yeah, obvious statement is obvious)
  2816. # [21:52] <tbsaunde> sfink: symbol dumping loop?
  2817. # [21:53] <sfink> tbsaunde: yeah, when you hit tab at the wrong time, and it dumps out a completion list of *every* *single* *f#@@king* *symbol* it knows about?
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  2819. # [21:54] <sfink> firefox has a lot of symbols
  2820. # [21:54] <sfink> 10 minutes' worth or so
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  2826. # [21:55] <Ms2ger> sfink, it finished for you?
  2827. # [21:56] <sfink> Ms2ger: no, because I forced it to stop early
  2828. # [21:56] <sfink> I don't actually know how long it would've taken
  2829. # [21:56] <sfink> usually I kill the whole thing when I trigger it
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  2841. # [22:00] <benjamin> easy, just rewrite firefox to be one function
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  2843. # [22:00] <Yoric> mak: I'll try and review your mozStorage patch tomorrow.
  2844. # [22:00] <@smaug> KWierso|sheriffduty: do you happen to know if bug 976479 has happened also on debug builds
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  2849. # [22:01] <KWierso|sheriffduty> smaug: doesn't look like it has
  2850. # [22:01] <tbsaunde> sfink: ah, yeah that :/
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  2856. # [22:02] <froydnj> benjamin: inline ALL THE THINGS
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  2863. # [22:03] <benjamin> you might consider it unified build on steriods
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  2865. # [22:06] <sfink> sadly, forcing a return means that it never gets around to freeing the 4GB or so that the completion list took up
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  2890. # [22:16] <csomakk> hi! can anyone help me with my build error? http://ask.mozilla.org/question/223/firefox-mach-build-fails-with-does-not-match-the-static-pattern-cc/
  2891. # [22:17] <Ms2ger> gps, ^
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  2895. # [22:18] <mak> Yoric: thanks
  2896. # [22:19] <mak> Yoric: I asked for feedback only just cause I was not sure whether you were comfortable reviewing it, though if you think you are fine with that, I have no problems with your review
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  2947. # [22:46] <gaston> glandium: for debian, how do you handle systemwide extensions ? i see enigmail has a /usr/lib/xul-ext/enigmail subdir, and two entries in /usr/lib/mozilla/extensions/.. so do you set a pref related to scopes so that seamonkey/thunderbird/icedove/iceape find it automagically ?
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  2956. # [22:49] <gaston> ah, http://patch-tracker.debian.org/patch/series/view/icedove/10.0.12-1/prefs/Don-t-auto-disable-extensions-in-system-directories.patch
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  2959. # [22:49] <gaston> damn autoDisableScopes
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  2961. # [22:50] <gaston> glandium: so while i'm at it.. why not keeping the extension as xpi, and unzip it ?
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  2989. # [23:06] <jesup> I'm getting a bunch of "Error: bad immediate value for offset (4140)" (and similar) errors trying to build for Android (Fedora 19 x64) when building the sctp source. I'm using ndk-r8e which is correct per the wiki, and SDK 17. Anyone seen something like this? glandium?
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  2995. # [23:07] <jesup> Not long ago I was able to build Android without problems.... I don't think I updated any tools except maybe the native GCC for the OS likely got bumped sometime recently in normal updates (4.8.2)
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  2999. # [23:09] <jesup> This wouldn't be related to unified build stuff?
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  3008. # [23:13] <glandium> jesup: my googling says it's an assembler error, so that'd suggest either a gcc problem or a ld problem
  3009. # [23:13] <glandium> s/ld/binutils/
  3010. # [23:14] <glandium> gaston: yes, the pref for scope is changed. As for xpis, they are unpacked when necessary, which for enigmail is the case since it contains a binary component. It's also up to the package maintainers
  3011. # [23:14] <gaston> ah, wasnt sure for the xpi thing
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  3013. # [23:15] <gaston> andyou only need to tweak autoDisableScopes, not enableScopes ?
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  3015. # [23:15] <glandium> gaston: iirc yes
  3016. # [23:15] <gaston> ok great
  3017. # [23:16] <jesup> glandium: yes, I presume either the compiler is generating a bad (out of range) offset, or the assembler isn't doing what the compiler expects.... but with the NDK setup, shouldn't both come from the NDK? What NDK (and sdk) are we currently using on the builders?
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  3019. # [23:16] <glandium> jesup: r8e according to mobile/android/config/mozconfigs/common
  3020. # [23:17] <jesup> thats what I'm using...
  3021. # [23:17] <sicking> reuben: ping
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  3028. # [23:19] <Gijs> KWierso|sheriffduty: do we do different onerror reporting on the tree than when running mochitest locally?
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  3030. # [23:19] <KWierso|sheriffduty> Gijs: in what way?
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  3032. # [23:20] <Gijs> KWierso|sheriffduty: in the sense that I don't know what's catching these things: foo.js | uncaught exception - TypeError: ...
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  3034. # [23:20] <Gijs> and I can't reproduce the failures that my push caused on fx-team with these exceptions causing orange
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  3036. # [23:20] <Gijs> that is, I don't see any exceptions :(
  3037. # [23:20] <Gijs> (I also don't see anything in the JS console, or in the terminal output)
  3038. # [23:21] <Gijs> so I'm wondering if there's any difference there...
  3039. # [23:21] <KWierso|sheriffduty> is it running with warnings as errors? I don't really know how these things work, either\
  3040. # [23:21] <Gijs> KWierso|sheriffduty: don't think there's such a thing for JS...
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  3073. # [23:42] <sewardj> gkw: ping
  3074. # [23:42] <gkw> sewardj: pong
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  3076. # [23:42] <sewardj> gkw: sorry to be slow with the Odinmonkey/Valgrind fix stuff. I'll get it on try and hopefully landed, tomorrow.
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