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- # Session Start: Fri Mar 14 00:00:00 2014
- # Session Ident: #developers
- # [00:00] <@smaug> hmm
- # [00:00] <@smaug> do you want LinkedList then?
- # [00:00] <tbsaunde> that would be rediculiously slow
- # [00:00] <@smaug> that wouldn't do copy-ctor
- # [00:00] <@smaug> but if you want a list and not array...
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- # [00:01] <tbsaunde> smaug: yeah, I was talking about copy ctor not ds
- # [00:01] <@smaug> cabanier: is this performance critical ?
- # [00:01] <@smaug> and if so, what part is perf critical
- # [00:01] <cabanier> smaug: not really
- # [00:02] <cabanier> smaug: it would be in the event handling for hit regions
- # [00:02] <cabanier> smaug: so not rendering
- # [00:02] <@smaug> and the list/array would contain what?
- # [00:02] <cabanier> smaug: there wouldn't be that many regions so the list would stay small
- # [00:03] <cabanier> smaug: list of paths that needs to be hit tested
- # [00:03] * @smaug should read the thread about canvas+hit regions
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- # [00:03] <cabanier> smaug: with their corresponding controls and ids
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- # [00:04] <@smaug> cabanier: and new paths can be removed and inserted
- # [00:04] <cabanier> smaug: yes
- # [00:04] <@smaug> why would you need copy-ctor?
- # [00:04] <cabanier> smaug: the last one inserted will be the first one that is hit-test
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- # [00:05] <cabanier> smaug: in the case of std::list, inserting in the list would create a copy
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- # [00:06] <@smaug> ah, of the thing you insert
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- # [00:06] <cabanier> smaug: regions can be removed so there would be holes in the array
- # [00:06] <@smaug> cabanier: I thought you need to take a copy of the whole list
- # [00:06] <cabanier> smaug: no
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- # [00:06] <@smaug> ok, LinkedList sounds like better option then
- # [00:07] <cabanier> smaug: yes
- # [00:07] <@smaug> you can insert and remove stuff O(1)
- # [00:07] <cabanier> smaug: thanks for pointing it out
- # [00:07] <@smaug> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mfbt/LinkedList.h
- # [00:07] <cabanier> smaug: good. that will happen quite often
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- # [00:09] <@smaug> LinkedList may increase memusage ofc
- # [00:09] <@smaug> but if there aren't that many items..
- # [00:10] <cabanier> what would you consider many items?
- # [00:10] <@smaug> hundreds?
- # [00:10] <cabanier> I think that will be unusual
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- # [00:11] <cabanier> at most a couple dozen
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- # [00:33] <@njn> glandium: in your post about directory tiles, it wasn't entirely obvious to me the difference between the "acceptable" and "unacceptable" cases. Was it the visual design, or the sites being linked to, or something else?
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- # [00:33] <glandium> njn: the visual design
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- # [00:34] <glandium> njn: but as i said, i don't want to make up my mind until i see what's really going to be there
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- # [00:47] <@njn> glandium: so the unacceptable one was too garish?
- # [00:48] <glandium> njn: too advertisy
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- # [00:49] <glandium> too shipping center flyer, if you prefer
- # [00:49] <glandium> shopping
- # [00:51] <philor> ApplicationReputationService?
- # [00:51] <@njn> glandium: needs more Instragram filters
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- # [00:52] <philor> oh, ApplicationRepuationService as in hg qbackout -r cd5ce2a9aceb, I see
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- # [00:55] <glandium> erf, a typo got me on http://moilla.org/
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- # [01:02] <philor> that's a glaring typo - everybody knows it should be Enquire
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- # [01:11] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: any idea what those windows build failures were about?
- # [01:11] <mmc> kwierso, i forgot to change a uuid. would that cause breakage on inbound but not try?
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- # [01:12] <KWierso|sheriffduty> probably
- # [01:12] <mmc> :(
- # [01:12] <mmc> sorry
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- # [01:33] <philor> this must be a day with "day" in the name
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- # [01:36] <philor> heh, and billm broke metrochrome just a day or so too early :)
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- # [01:36] <billm> philor: what, are we hiding those tests?
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- # [01:39] <KWierso|sheriffduty> billm: too late :)
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- # [01:47] <philor> billm: yeah, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=983269
- # [01:49] <jld> Apparently I need to fix code that's been in NSPR since "Free the lizard". Yay?
- # [01:49] <jld> Although I didn't actually assign that bug to myself. Hm.
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- # [01:51] <tbsaunde> jld: why?
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- # [01:52] <jld> tbsaunde: It's calling waitpid(-1, ...) and collecting dead children that belong to IPC.
- # [01:52] <jld> tbsaunde: It seems to be one of the causes of bug 933680.
- # [01:53] <glandium> jld: good luck fixing that
- # [01:53] <glandium> jld: there's a bug about that somewhere iirc
- # [01:53] <glandium> essentially, nspr assumes it's alone handling subprocesses
- # [01:53] <glandium> that worked fine for us 10 years ago
- # [01:54] <glandium> (in fact, nspr assumes it's alone handling anything)
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- # [01:54] <jld> glandium: It's fine as long as nobody starts up NSPR's child machinery. I'm still not sure why try/buildbot do that and my local runs don't.
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- # [01:55] <tbsaunde> jld: yeah, sounds fun
- # [01:55] <jld> Bug 745212.
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- # [01:56] <glandium> jld: nsIProcess uses nspr
- # [01:56] <glandium> i'm sure other things do as well
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- # [01:57] <jld> glandium: There's a confluence of other bugs such that (if it's a refcount-logging-enabled build) the IPC code hangs around forever trying to waitpid the child that NSPR stole. And its signal handler delegates to the older NSPR handler. So if the pid is reused for an nsIProcess, IPC steals that child from NSPR and the nsIProcess user blocks forever.
- # [01:57] <jld> ...that might have gotten cut off.
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- # [01:57] <jld> Well, "blocks forever" until the test times our and fails.
- # [01:58] <jld> s/our/out
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- # [01:59] <glandium> the best thing to do imho would be to stop using nspr for anything that is not nss
- # [01:59] <glandium> one piece at a time
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- # [02:00] <@khuey|caltrain> glandium++
- # [02:01] <jld> Also, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=227246 seems to be approximately the same thing.
- # [02:01] <glandium> jld: i think that's the bug i had in mind
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- # [02:04] <jld> So should I dupe the 2-year-old bug onto the 10-year-old bug, or vice versa, or neither?
- # [02:04] <fabrice1> jld: keep the oldest one to be proud when you fix it!
- # [02:05] <philor> don't do it!
- # [02:05] <philor> I fixed a 5-digit bug once, and then for the sin of pride I had to fix three followups
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- # [02:06] <glandium> jld: the 10-year-old bug is a nspr bug. don't fix nspr. fix gecko by not using nspr.
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- # [02:09] <tbsaunde> glandium: I think we all agree with you, but every know and again I don't think its unreasonable to hope fixing nspr is the path of least resistance
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- # [02:10] <tbsaunde> of course you end up learning its only a path to sadness, but perhaps learning that the hard way is for the best and makes people more interested in killing it
- # [02:11] <aja> ryanvm: last m-i to m-c merge broke win64 build?
- # [02:11] <hub> long live the NSPR
- # [02:12] <jld> I don't completely understand why NSPR needs to have a background thread do waitpid() and then collect the info so it can be exposed over another waitpid()-like interface.
- # [02:12] <jld> But I haven't looked that closely at NSPR yet, and I don't know if that would be a wise choice.
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- # [02:13] <glandium> tbsaunde: nspr is used by too many other things that might assume how it works to risk touching it
- # [02:14] <glandium> jld: because nspr is a "portable" runtime. you use the same functions on unix and windows.
- # [02:14] <tbsaunde> glandium: the problem I see with that argument is that then anything important can never be fixed
- # [02:14] <glandium> jld: there is no waitpid for windows
- # [02:14] <jld> glandium: But I'm wondering why the Unix implementation needs to do that. I think the answer is PR_DetachProcess.
- # [02:15] <philor> aja: just ICU, nobody really expects it to build very often
- # [02:15] <glandium> tbsaunde: why do you think i want us to kill nspr use?
- # [02:15] <tbsaunde> glandium: so we don't have to deal with it is why I want to kill it
- # [02:16] <jld> I will note that NSPR seems to do a better job of exposing consistent platform-independent interfaces than the Chromium IPC stuff.
- # [02:16] <glandium> jld: i don't think the chromium ipc stuff even tries to be consistent across platforms
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- # [02:18] <jld> glandium: It tries, but it doesn't try very hard.
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- # [02:19] <nemo> looks like monster madness guys killed the open demo
- # [02:19] <nemo> https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/12/12/first-3d-commercial-web-game-powered-by-asm-js-unveiled/
- # [02:19] <nemo> is now a dead link
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- # [02:20] <aja> philor: occasional internationalized win64 builds?
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- # [02:20] <glandium> nemo: "Anonymous accounts are not enabled for this game!"
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- # [02:20] <glandium> nemo: not entirely a dead link
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- # [02:28] <nemo> maybe they needed the bandwidth
- # [02:29] <nemo> could have put it on another server p'raps in that case.
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- # [02:45] <philor> aja: "since we enabled ICU, we've occasionally had successful builds on Windows"
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- # [02:46] <philor> somewhat less frequently since the sheriffs got browbeat into not clobbering multiple times a day
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- # [02:47] <aja> philor: hmmm.....i download win64 builds almost daily
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- # [02:49] <aja> philor: agreed!
- # [02:49] <philor> I want more like all of the several hundred builds I'll look at in the course of a day to actually not have build failures totally unrelated to the changes they are building
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- # [02:49] <aja> dream on
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- # [02:51] <aja> heycam: wondering if there exists a draft of custom properties with tab's proposed changes...think i understand, but seeing examples would help
- # [02:52] <heycam> aja, no, it's only in his head since yesterday
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- # [02:52] <heycam> aja, one proposal is to require custom properties be named beginning with "_", and no other "var-" prefix
- # [02:52] <heycam> aja, someone else on the thread suggested using "--" as the prefix
- # [02:53] <heycam> aja, but still you would use var() on the right hand side
- # [02:53] <heycam> to reference them
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- # [02:55] <aja> heycam: <bikeshed>i kinda liked someone else's proposed change to fallback syntax. "value || fallback" rather than comma-separated</bikeshead>
- # [02:56] <heycam> aja, that's simpler in that it's not hierarchically composable
- # [02:56] <heycam> but I don't see a great need to change from how fallback is handled currently
- # [02:56] <aja> nor i
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- # [02:58] <aja> n/m, that was blink
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- # [02:58] <heycam> right
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- # [03:00] <aja> heycam: any chance to work on details/summary?
- # [03:00] <heycam> aja, sorry, been busy with other things :(
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- # [03:00] <heycam> aja, I really should get back to it though
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- # [03:03] <aja> heycam: fwiw, validators don't like some of the aria values being recommended for it
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- # [03:04] <heycam> aja, I don't really know the state of validaors wrt aria attributes, although I would have assumed that validator.nu would be up to date
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- # [03:04] <mike5w3c> it is
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- # [03:05] <mike5w3c> or it intends to be
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- # [03:05] <aja> heycam: not last i checked....maybe i'll have a look tonite
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- # [03:06] <mike5w3c> aja: if you find any cases where the validator doesn't conform to the spec feel free to ping me here or on #whatwg
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- # [03:08] <aja> mike5w3c: details role=group and summary role=button both are errors
- # [03:08] <mike5w3c> aja: k, will take a look
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- # [03:09] <aja> mike5w3c: saw those as recommend design patterns in a recentish blog post. lawsons perhaps?
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- # [03:09] <aja> recommended
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- # [03:10] <mike5w3c> maybe so. not sure I read that one
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- # [03:10] <KWierso> billm: you still around?
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- # [03:11] <aja> mike5w3c: http://www.creativebloq.com/html5/5-html5-and-aria-design-patterns-7133753 <- faulkner
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- # [03:11] <KWierso> billm: (you sure bug 982828 did what you thought it should do? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=36110793&tree=Mozilla-Inbound)
- # [03:12] <aja> mike5w3c: i haven't tried the figure/figcaption examples yet
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- # [03:12] <mike5w3c> aja: btw I find that that only constraint the spec states for details@role is "If specified, role must be a role that supports aria-expanded". So I'll check which support aria-expanded
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- # [03:13] <mike5w3c> aja: I think the figure/figcaption ones should work
- # [03:13] <billm> KWierso: just a sec. looking.
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- # [03:13] <mike5w3c> aja: details is news, it may be that I've not gotten around to updating the support for it yet
- # [03:14] <mike5w3c> *new
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- # [03:14] <aja> mike5w3c: figure role=group would be my corcern there
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- # [03:14] <aja> concern
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- # [03:15] <mike5w3c> aja: ok lemm check that right now in the code
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- # [03:16] <billm> KWierso: it should be fixed now
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- # [03:16] <mike5w3c> aja: from the code it looks like figure doesn't support role=group yet
- # [03:16] * mike5w3c checks the spec
- # [03:16] <KWierso> billm: thanks
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- # [03:18] <mike5w3c> aja: ah wait it does
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- # [03:21] <KWierso> billm: also https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=36111482&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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- # [03:23] <KWierso> philor: open to ideas on those b2g on OSX build failures :)
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- # [03:23] <mike5w3c> aja: I notice that the Default implicit ARIA semantic of <details> is role=group so you shouldn't actually need to explicitly specify role=group for it -- the UA should map it to the right a11y API thing automatically
- # [03:24] <mike5w3c> aja: still I guess it should be allowed if you want to explicitly put it
- # [03:24] <aja> mike5w3c: 'cept for legacy
- # [03:24] <mike5w3c> yeah
- # [03:25] <aja> same for figure, iirc
- # [03:25] <mike5w3c> I think the whatwg spec actually prohibts
- # [03:26] <mike5w3c> * prohibits default roles from being explicitly stated
- # [03:27] <RyanVM|afk> KWierso: that's a slave issue
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- # [03:27] <aja> really? thought got changed a while back
- # [03:28] <RyanVM> KWierso: we've been seeing those intermittently, but usually on Try
- # [03:28] * RyanVM goes looking for the bug
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- # [03:28] <RyanVM> KWierso: note that it's the same slave, though
- # [03:28] <mike5w3c> aja: can't remember.. checking now
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- # [03:29] <KWierso> cpearce: bustage
- # [03:29] <RyanVM> cpearce: any idea why android/b2g media mochitests have spiked so badly in timeouts in the past couple days?
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- # [03:30] <mike5w3c> aja: "Authors must not set the ARIA role and aria-* attributes to values that match the default implicit ARIA semantics defined in the following two tables." http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/elements.html#wai-aria
- # [03:31] <cajbir> cpearce is in a meeting, not sure if he can respond. KWierso, RyanVM.
- # [03:31] <KWierso> out he goes :)
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- # [03:31] <RyanVM> cajbir: i'm off to bed soon, but I can always bug padenot about it in the morning :D
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- # [03:32] <mike5w3c> aja: however, the w3c spec does not state that constraint
- # [03:32] <padenot> RyanVM: I'll be in a plane, hehe
- # [03:32] <RyanVM> noooooo
- # [03:32] <RyanVM> but since you're here now...:P
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- # [03:32] <padenot> RyanVM: although this might be related to the refactoring cpearce just landed
- # [03:33] <RyanVM> take a look at android M3 or b2g m3
- # [03:33] <RyanVM> rather disturbing
- # [03:33] <padenot> RyanVM: I'll talk to him in 25min, when he is finished with his meeting (we are at a workweek)
- # [03:33] <RyanVM> ok, I'm going to bed soon
- # [03:33] <cajbir> yes, most likely the refactoring
- # [03:33] <RyanVM> padenot: http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/orangefactor/
- # [03:33] <padenot> RyanVM: we'll try to find a solution, thanks for the heads up
- # [03:33] <RyanVM> you can see them trending on there too
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- # [03:36] <mike5w3c> aja: anyway the RIA spec does allow role-group to have aria-expanded so I guess we should support details@role=group in the validator despite the whatwg spec restriction
- # [03:36] <aja> mike5w3c: wonder why figure isn't in one of those tables then
- # [03:36] <mike5w3c> aja: anyway the RIA spec does allow role-group to have aria-expanded so I guess we should support details@role=group in the validator despite the whatwg spec restriction
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- # [03:37] <mike5w3c> aja: dunno but if it's not listed it just means anything is allowed, basically
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- # [03:37] <mike5w3c> any role
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- # [03:40] <aja> mike5w3c: inconsistancy / oversight? perhaps i'll mention it to Hixie ^^^
- # [03:40] <aja> perhaps i just did :)
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- # [04:04] <philor> since those missed-uuid-change objdirs aren't going to delete themselves
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- # [04:48] <philor> wow, wtc has *faith* - r?=cls
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- # [04:52] <philor> oh, not that much faith, he did reviews just four years ago, and cancelled one request just two years ago
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- # [05:18] <billm> philor: ping?
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- # [05:18] <philor> billm: pong
- # [05:19] <billm> philor: do you have a moment to look at a push? something very odd happened that I don't understand.
- # [05:19] <philor> sure
- # [05:20] <billm> philor: on inbound recently, I pushed 94f9ebdc6662. it got a bunch of M5 orange and some xpcshell orange. then on the next push, which was unrelated, it went away.
- # [05:20] <billm> philor: it shows up a few times after that, but much less frequently.
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- # [05:21] <philor> billm: was that above mmc's push that failed to rev a uuid, so that clobber builds were fine but dep builds were not?
- # [05:21] <philor> or for that matter, above the backout, since you have to clobber to get rid of that bustage
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- # [05:21] <billm> philor: oh yeah, her push has the same bustage!
- # [05:22] <mmc> Yes
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- # [05:22] <mmc> I hope that was the reason
- # [05:22] <billm> ah, ok, that explains it. thanks philor! :-)
- # [05:22] <philor> not exactly the same bustage, though
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- # [05:23] <philor> but maybe that's the inverse bustage, the unclobbered backout bustage
- # [05:23] <billm> philor: the android stuff was actually my fault. the rest of it looks the same to me.
- # [05:23] <mmc> ?
- # [05:23] <nemo> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/metro-billboard-advocating-jury-nullification-concerns-local-prosecutors/2013/10/29/fe53edbc-3da9-11e3-a94f-b58017bfee6c_story.html
- # [05:24] <mmc> Back out must clobber too?
- # [05:24] <billm> I don't know. I never really understood clobbering myself :-)
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- # [05:26] <philor> you landed, some clobbers built and thus built with all of your patch, and then the backout landed, which changed code without changing the uuid, just like the initial landing did
- # [05:28] <mmc> I see, thanks
- # [05:29] <billm> I guess I don't even understand why we need to clobber when reving the uuid. shouldn't a change to the class automatically cause us to rebuild any cpp files that use that class?
- # [05:29] <billm> or rather, why uuid changes have anything to do with clobbering
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- # [05:29] <billm> it just seems like changing class members and stuff should force code to be recompiled no matter what
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- # [05:32] <mmc> yeah, I miss protobufs where it's easy to write backwards and forward compatible code
- # [05:33] <billm> philor: anyway, did somebody eventually clobber? the CLOBBER file hasn't been updated, but maybe it was done manually?
- # [05:34] <philor> billm: right, I did it manually, since the only things that need to clobber are things that built between a couple of pushes, no need to clobber m-c and b-i and f-t when it merges there
- # [05:34] <billm> ok, thanks
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- # [05:56] <doctor> is there something like livehttpheaders, but for the TCP connection, not the HTTP layer?
- # [05:57] <glandium> doctor: if you mean in firefox, no
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- # [05:57] <glandium> otherwise, wireshark
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- # [05:57] <doctor> glandium: I meant in firefox; thanks for the info
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- # [06:14] <efaust> if so, isn't the point tospread the load for parallel test running?
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- # [07:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning folks
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- # [08:07] <nigelb> good morning Tomcat|sheriffduty
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- # [09:06] <glandium> http://www.commitstrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Strips-IDE-visual-studio-650-finalenglish.jpg
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- # [09:07] <nigelb> heh
- # [09:07] <nigelb> I just saw that earlier today!
- # [09:07] <glandium> nigelb: you mean the strip, or the visual studio splashscreen?
- # [09:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hrm building on windows can be so much fun :/
- # [09:07] <nigelb> the comic strip :)
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- # [09:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
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- # [09:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> KWierso: sleep! its past midnight!
- # [09:09] <KWierso> it's past one :P
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- # [09:10] <nigelb> srsly
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- # [09:11] <KWierso> I just wanted to be here when ms2ger showed up
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- # [09:28] <tzimmermann> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ping. could you please roll-back the patches of https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=79ee6fda8e65 ?
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- # [09:30] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> tzimmermann: you mean backout right ?
- # [09:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> just to confirm :)
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- # [09:31] <tzimmermann> right :)
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- # [09:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok yeah will do, any specific reason (just asking for the backout commit msg)
- # [09:31] <tzimmermann> it's not urgent. i just pushed the wrong version of one of the patches
- # [09:32] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> oh ok np working on the backout now
- # [09:32] <tzimmermann> great. thank you!
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- # [09:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> tzimmermann: backouts done
- # [09:40] <tzimmermann> thanks again :)
- # [09:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np anytime
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- # [10:01] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning edmorley
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- # [10:02] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> or ircmonkey :)
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- # [10:08] <Ms2ger> Who's have thought that people would look at arguments called aFreeSecurityPass
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- # [10:24] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: good morning :-)
- # [10:25] <edmorley> Ms2ger: lol
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- # [10:38] <devashish> Hi I am devashish badlani currently an intern at khan academy from iit bombay I have a GSOC proposal and needed help
- # [10:39] <devashish> Any1 who can review my proposal
- # [10:39] <devashish> ?? or be my mentor
- # [10:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> something like htis https://wiki.mozilla.org/SummerOfCode/ApplicationTemplate ?
- # [10:42] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah
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- # [10:42] <devashish> first I wanted to share my idea
- # [10:42] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> maybe gerv can help
- # [10:42] <devashish> which is to build 2 educational apps on firefox OS for students
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- # [10:44] <@Cwiiis> does anyone know who I should talk to about getting my google apps password reset on my mozilla.com address?
- # [10:44] <devashish> Label Diagram
- # [10:44] <devashish> Practice handwriting
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- # [10:44] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> devashish: maybe the email adress on https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode14#Application_Advice can help
- # [10:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Cwiiis: i guess you have to file a bug or service now issue
- # [10:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> like servicedesk
- # [10:45] <@Cwiiis> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thanks, I'll have a look
- # [10:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> at least i filed a bug sometime ago for the same issue :))
- # [10:47] <@Cwiiis> yeah, there was a category for it on servicenow, thanks :)
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- # [11:03] <edmorley> wait, what? "Since we are decommissioning the metro UI" https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=983269#c0 ???
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- # [11:10] <Yoric> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ping
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- # [11:11] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Yoric: pong
- # [11:11] <Yoric> gps: ping
- # [11:11] <Yoric> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Hi.
- # [11:12] <Yoric> What's the procedure for landing a patch that *may* require a clobber due to a build system bug?
- # [11:12] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> you mean how to clobber ?
- # [11:12] <Yoric> i.e. We tried to land the patch, and it failed only on ASAN.
- # [11:12] <Yoric> Well, should I add a patch with the clobber?
- # [11:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> oh its basically touching the clobber file like https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/file/8eb7a2a65dfe/CLOBBER
- # [11:13] <Yoric> Should we land the rest of the patch, wait to see if it breaks build, and only then add the clobber?
- # [11:13] <Yoric> Who should review the clobber patch?
- # [11:13] <Yoric> etc.
- # [11:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: ^
- # [11:13] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: do we have a documentation about using the clobber file (like see Yoric;s question)
- # [11:14] <Yoric> Well, the clobber file itself is probably sufficiently documented.
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- # [11:14] <Yoric> But not how we review and land changes to that file.
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- # [11:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> i don't think the change to the clobber file itself does need a review
- # [11:14] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> at least when i see the log https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/log/8eb7a2a65dfe/CLOBBER
- # [11:15] <Yoric> Ok, thanks.
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- # [11:16] <Yoric> Then let's try to land this...
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- # [11:22] <evilpie> edmorley: hehe ;)
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- # [11:24] <edmorley> sorry was making a cup of tea
- # [11:24] <edmorley> Yoric: no review needed
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- # [11:24] <Yoric> Thanks.
- # [11:24] <edmorley> but bonus points for filing a bug when touching the clobber file to ensure the build system is fixed, but you've already done that so ++ :-)
- # [11:25] <Yoric> :)
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- # [11:54] <Yoric> Does anyone know whether Cu.reportError automatically causes unexpected failures with mochitests?
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- # [12:12] * Gijs is 80% sure it does not
- # [12:13] <Gijs> easiest way to test would be to just test it :)
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- # [12:25] <mikedeboer> edmorley: fyi, my mercurial.ini had (...) in it... changed it, won't happen again.
- # [12:26] <mikedeboer> so many boxes, so many configs :/
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- # [12:31] <edmorley> mikedeboer: hehe :-)
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- # [12:32] <mikedeboer> edmorley: well, thanks for telling me :)
- # [12:33] <edmorley> mikedeboer: mach mercurial-setup can set the username in the correct format if that ever helps for the future? (I'm currently working on a few patches to make it work even better for extensions and things, since I know some devs avoid using it since it clobbers the settings if they have things like bzexport defined out of non-mozbuild directories)
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- # [12:33] <mikedeboer> edmorley: cool! I'm kinda old-style, but I'll give it a whirl next time I set up a new box!
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- # [12:43] <edmorley> mikedeboer: :-) (it shows a diff before asking if it should make the changes, so you can always just use it as a sanity check if that's preferable)
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- # [13:36] <gfritzsche> hm, does anyone have ideas on how to figure out why an async xpcshell-test isn't finishing?
- # [13:36] <gfritzsche> i.e. stuck at 'exiting test'
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- # [13:36] <gfritzsche> any obvious problems to look for?
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- # [13:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey jaws red/bustage on fx-team
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- # [13:46] <jaws> :(
- # [13:47] <jaws> Tomcat|sheriffduty: looking in to it real quick to see if i can push a quick followup or should just back out
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- # [13:49] <jaws> Tomcat|sheriffduty: yeah i have it fixed now
- # [13:49] <@bsmedberg> gfritzsche: depends on what the last thing the test did was, but it often means that an async thing never finished/promise never resolved
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- # [13:52] <RealRaven> *omit
- # [13:53] <RealRaven> I can't find anything about how to enumerate nested (@imported) style sheets on mdn. It seems to fail (at least in SeaMonkeY0
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- # [14:01] <RealRaven> are the CSSStyleSheet classes somehow nested?
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- # [14:03] <RealRaven> or are all rules of the children "flattened out" into the container? It seems to contradict what I am seeing inDOMi
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- # [14:03] <mcsmurf> RealRaven: check http://stackoverflow.com/questions/385098/how-do-i-parse-import-stylesheets-with-javascript maybe that helps
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- # [14:04] <RealRaven> aha! So it is hidden in one of the rules :-) that makes sense. I was wondering why I didn't see it
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- # [14:04] <mcsmurf> but this assumes "Assuming that our document contains an @import-rule as first rule in the first stylesheet, here's the code for standards compliant browsers"
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- # [14:06] <RealRaven> .. I am writing chrome privileged code (in thunderbird) so that's not an issue. I don't deal much lowly "content" :P
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- # [14:06] <RealRaven> *with
- # [14:06] <gfritzsche> bsmedberg: so if there's any promise hanging around at test-shutdown... can we somehow get information on what's still pending?
- # [14:06] <RealRaven> so all I need to do is to check rule.stylesheet and recurse my function. that's easy enough
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- # [14:16] <gfritzsche> bsmedberg: nvm, found the culprit
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- # [14:24] <RealRaven> mcsmurf: this is strange, although the rule seems to have a stylesheet attribute sometimes it is not part of http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/interfaces/css/nsIDOMCSSRule.idl#17
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- # [14:25] <RealRaven> is there a differen CSS rule interface that includes the stylesheet or is this just simply cobbled in by the JS code
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- # [14:26] <RealRaven> Ah I see it is a different type
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- # [14:26] <RealRaven> CSSRuleLIst contains CSSStyleRule and CSSImportRule objects
- # [14:27] <RealRaven> I wonder iof this should be documented here https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/CSSRule
- # [14:28] <mcsmurf> whoa, dunno :o
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- # [14:28] <RealRaven> oh there is actually a constant in there CSSRule.IMPORT_RULE
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- # [14:29] <RealRaven> ah got it: if (CSSRule.type==CSSRule.IMPORT_RULE) ...
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- # [14:30] <RealRaven> Si I need to create a page https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/CSSImportRule
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- # [14:30] <RealRaven> there is an idl: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/interfaces/css/nsIDOMCSSImportRule.idl#9
- # [14:31] <RealRaven> probably good enough linking that
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- # [14:33] <mcsmurf> RealRaven: but isn't this different?
- # [14:33] <mcsmurf> after all those pages talk the Web API
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- # [14:34] <mcsmurf> and not about our internal idl files
- # [14:34] <mihaelav_lunch> hi Gijs!
- # [14:34] <mcsmurf> but then, I have very few to do with this stuff
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- # [14:34] <Gijs> mihaelav: hi
- # [14:35] <RealRaven> mcsmurf: do they? not that I am aware. I thought this was for mozilla developers
- # [14:35] <Ms2ger> MDN? No
- # [14:35] <Ms2ger> At least, the Web/ tree
- # [14:35] <mcsmurf> oh actually CSSImportRule is linked from that CSSRule page ;)
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- # [14:36] <mcsmurf> (it just does not exist yet)
- # [14:36] <Ms2ger> Web/* is for webdevs, Mozilla/* is for Mozilla devs
- # [14:36] <RealRaven> We usually link to the IDLs when we are too lazy to create our own pages for XPCOM interfaces :p
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- # [14:36] <RealRaven> mcsmurf: the link brings up a 404
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- # [14:36] <RealRaven> so I thought I just put in a link to http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/interfaces/css/nsIDOMCSSImportRule.idl#9
- # [14:36] <RealRaven> Of couirse I could "create" the page but I am at work right now...
- # [14:36] <mihaelav> Gijs: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=2487f0a3daa5 these are the results of the patch without the new windows tests. There are some failures in other tests. Do you think I can add the patch to the bug or thy further?
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- # [14:37] <Gijs> mihaelav: the os x 10.8 failures look real
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- # [14:38] <Gijs> mihaelav: you should try to figure out what those mean.
- # [14:38] <RealRaven> Problem is that browserId is now letting me down when I try to log on to MDN as myself
- # [14:38] <RealRaven> ok, logged in
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- # [14:40] <mcsmurf> what would be cool: if the eyes of the green monster on the 404 page (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/CSSImportRule) followed my mouse cursor ;)
- # [14:40] <Ms2ger> mcsmurf, patches welcome? :)
- # [14:40] <mcsmurf> :)
- # [14:41] <mcsmurf> actually the graphic has no ideas https://developer.cdn.mozilla.net/media/img/beast-404.png
- # [14:41] <mcsmurf> so the eyes are already JS
- # [14:41] <RealRaven> Edit complete: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/CSSRule
- # [14:41] <mcsmurf> errr...eyes
- # [14:41] <RealRaven> hmm, should probably add a label...
- # [14:41] <mihaelav> Gijs: ok, thank you
- # [14:42] <Gijs> mihaelav: easiest to start with might be retriggering the opt build a few times to see if it happens all the time
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- # [15:09] <@bsmedberg> ted or whimboo: can I test HTTPS in xpcshell?
- # [15:09] <@bsmedberg> I currently have an xpcshell test that launches an HTTP server, but I need to do some basic cert checking
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- # [15:10] <Standard8> bsmedberg: I vaguely remember something about stunnel
- # [15:10] <@bsmedberg> we use stunnel for mochitests, yes
- # [15:10] <@bsmedberg> I don't see examples of it for xpcshell tests though
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- # [15:10] <Standard8> ah
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- # [15:12] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: there's a bug to enable it, but it never got completed
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- # [15:16] <RyanVM> bz: RE: bug 952927 - we really need to catch IDL changes w/o UUID bumps during review
- # [15:16] <RyanVM> bz_sleep ^
- # [15:16] <RyanVM> bz_sleep: I'll wager that's why we hit the results we did last time that attempted to land (especially given the green Try run)
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- # [15:16] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, hg hook?
- # [15:17] <RyanVM> not a bad idea
- # [15:17] <RyanVM> we hit this bustage how often?
- # [15:17] <mccr8> I've done it at least once myself. :-/
- # [15:17] <RyanVM> seems like at least a couple times every month
- # [15:17] <mccr8> there's some kind of UUID checking hook on branches
- # [15:17] <RyanVM> they do it on merge day
- # [15:17] <mccr8> ah
- # [15:17] <RyanVM> they look at IDL changes w/o UUID bumps
- # [15:18] <Ms2ger> Wasn't there also a binary-approval flag?
- # [15:18] <mccr8> yeah I think so
- # [15:18] <RyanVM> and m-b checks for IDL changes w/o ba
- # [15:18] <RyanVM> yes ^
- # [15:18] <arnaud_bienner> dholbert: ping
- # [15:18] <RyanVM> that's only on beta
- # [15:18] <mccr8> I guess verifying there's a UUID change is trickier than checking there's a ba=
- # [15:18] <Ms2ger> Right
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- # [15:21] <whimboo> bsmedberg: i might not be a good help here. never worked on xpcshell tests so far
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- # [15:27] * RyanVM supposes he could be nice and just bump it for them
- # [15:27] <RyanVM> nah
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- # [15:27] <Ms2ger> nah
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- # [15:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b753b98bcf55 - Brian Smith - Bug 982761 - Fix linkage of _1 placeholder in std::bind polyfill. r=briansmith
- # [15:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cef5e3248787 - Dan Glastonbury - Bug 982464 - Disable extension functionality after a context lost happens. r=jgilbert
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- # [15:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a25a6bf64a5f - CJKu - Bug 982533 - Enable DEBUG_SELECTION cause compile fail. r=ehsan
- # [15:30] <jcranmer> wow, TextDecoder has spoiled me on charsets
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- # [15:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b7761b7514f7 - Irving Reid - Bug 772484 - Allow user to cancel add-on update check and clean up correctly when they do. r=Unfocused
- # [15:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4832153571bc - Mats Palmgren - Bug 983019 - Fix a typo in the aMetrics->maxDescent initialization when we failed to create the Cairo font. Also fix a typo so that aSpaceGlyph out-param is assigned as
- # [15:37] <firebot> intended. And make the code easier to read. r=jfkthame
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- # [15:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6da2b893be68 - Dan Glastonbury - Bug 983068 - Fix float/half float texture validation. r=jgilbert
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- # [15:47] <ekr> I'm chasing down a perf problem and thought I would see if anyone has any clever ideas: as part of writing OpenH264 video plugin, we have to push all the A/V to the plugin via IPC, which is currently all happening on the main thread (there are a bunch of shared memory operations). What I'm seeing is very bad performance and specifically what look like very long transitions onto the main thread. I.e., I have a function that does a call onto
- # [15:47] <ekr> thread and if I instrument the time of the dispatch and the time when the function runs, it's like 200ms difference. Is there a good way to specifically ask what the main thread is doing? Just profile? Something better?
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- # [15:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c18da81043e - Hannes Verschore - Bug 953164 - IonMonkey: Improve type information at branches, r=jandem
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- # [15:55] <gcp> ekr: you're saying the event loop is being hogged for at average 200ms?
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- # [15:56] <ekr> gcp: what I know is that it's taking 200 ms for my event to get in, which isn't the same thing.
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- # [15:57] <@bz_sleep> ugh
- # [15:58] <@bz_sleep> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=983570 is why we need curlies on all ifs
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- # [15:59] <mcsmurf> goto fail; indeed
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- # [16:00] <davidb> bz_sleep: yes.
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- # [16:00] <gcp> that's a better argument than the apple bug
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- # [16:07] <@bsmedberg> who can explain Sandbox behavior to me
- # [16:07] <@bsmedberg> I have a sandbox with a null principal.
- # [16:08] <@bsmedberg> I evaluate a "function filter(c) { return c.prop; }"
- # [16:08] <@bsmedberg> then I try calling sandbox.filter({prop: 123})
- # [16:08] <@bsmedberg> but it undefined
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- # [16:10] <@bsmedberg> oh, maybe I need "wantXrays: false"
- # [16:11] <Ms2ger> Danger! :)
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- # [16:12] <@bsmedberg> Ms2ger: what is the "I want to be able to call a function with JS objects safely" thing, then?
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- # [16:13] <Ms2ger> 301 bholley
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- # [16:13] <@ted> bsmedberg: like Standard8 said, there's a patch but it never got finished
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- # [16:14] <@roc> ekr: the SPS profiler is probably the way to go
- # [16:14] <@roc> though I wonder why you want to push data to the plugin from the main thread
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- # [16:28] <ekr> roc: I was told I had to.
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- # [16:28] <ekr> I.e., I ws told that was where the IPC and shmem operations ahd to happen
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- # [16:31] <ekr> roc: the actual situation is that the media is available on some VideoEngine thread and I need to push it the plugin child process. I would prefer *not* to push it to the main thread
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- # [16:55] <sheppy> Web APIs docs meeting in 5 minutes! Everyone's welcome to attend; please add to the agenda at https://etherpad.mozilla.org/WebAPI-docs-2014-03-14 -- instructions on attending are there as well.
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- # [17:19] <mjrosenb> dumb question: when I select print to file in linux, where does the file go?
- # [17:19] <mjrosenb> and can I get it to bring the file selection dialog back?
- # [17:20] <@roc> ekr: IPDL endpoints for a given channel need to stick to the same threads
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- # [17:21] <@roc> it is possible to have them not be the main thread
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- # [17:22] <@roc> we have stuff like that for the compositor, e.g. the ImageBridge protocol which allows non-main threads to communicate with the compositor in limited ways
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- # [17:23] <arnaud_bienner> (I'm asking Daniel, but someone else here might be able to answer me :)
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- # [17:35] <dholbert> arnaud_bienner, good point!
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- # [17:36] <dholbert> arnaud_bienner, lsblakk maybe? (lsblakk, looks like <input type="color"> is still in FF28 release notes, even though feature has been preffed off)
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- # [17:36] <lsblakk> dholbert: not in release note
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- # [17:36] <lsblakk> its in beta notes
- # [17:36] <dholbert> lsblakk, oh, great
- # [17:36] <lsblakk> which is different
- # [17:36] <dholbert> arnaud_bienner, ^
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- # [17:37] <arnaud_bienner> lsblakk: yes, indeed, it's in beta notes. While it has been preffed off in beta
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- # [17:37] <arnaud_bienner> so it should be in aurora notes now, and not in beta notes anymore.
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- # [17:40] <lsblakk> arnaud_bienner: we don't edit beta notes from beta1 to beta final
- # [17:40] <lsblakk> they go out when the beta is shipped, and hold that history
- # [17:40] <lsblakk> the feature was enabled in beta1 (and others)
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- # [17:41] <lsblakk> the release notes then also reflect what is in the release
- # [17:41] <lsblakk> which will *not* have that feature listed
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- # [17:41] <arnaud_bienner> lsblakk: ok, perfect then :) Thanks for the clarification
- # [17:41] <lsblakk> np
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- # [17:41] <lsblakk> always appreciate people checking in on things that get disabled :)
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- # [17:43] <@khuey> I assume a screen full of red android tests is probably related to scl3?
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- # [17:44] <WaltS48> can anyone explain why my 29.0b9 64-bit Linux version hasn't updated to RC?
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- # [17:48] <Callek|Buildduty> WaltS48: join us in #releng and re-ask please
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- # [17:49] <WaltS48> oops! yes 28.0b9
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- # [17:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/78646f067fd3 - Ed Morley - Bug 918507 - Disable browser_dbg_chrome-create.js on the remaining platforms, since it doesn't clean up after itself; CLOSED TREE
- # [17:56] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty ^ ?
- # [17:56] <RyanVM> IIUC, the mess is from other tests
- # [17:56] <RyanVM> that browser_dbg_chrome-create.js is just unfortunate enough to be hitting
- # [17:57] <edmorley|sheriffduty> RyanVM: oh misread the bug; well the test was virtually permaorange, so can re-enable once that's fixed
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- # [17:59] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriffduty: fair enough, just wanted to make sure the right rationale was in place :)
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- # [18:00] <edmorley|sheriffduty> RyanVM: yeah so I guess the commit message is wrong but we still want the test disabled for now
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- # [18:01] <RyanVM> yeah
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- # [18:03] <edmorley|sheriffduty> gaia failures on b2g-inbound, jetpack nonsense on several trees and a few other suspicious failures... yey
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- # [18:05] <froydnj> edmorley|sheriffduty: just another ordinary day, right?
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- # [18:05] <tbsaunde> froydnj++ # trying to do something about stupid QIs
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- # [18:07] <bent> froydnj, shouldn't we just fix the places that call qi with the same type?
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- # [18:08] <bent> e.g. static_assert them
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- # [18:09] <froydnj> bent: oo, that's not a bad idea
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- # [18:10] <bent> froydnj, also you probably want #ifdef DEBUG verification that your shortcut does what the same thing as the old QI i would think
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- # [18:10] <bent> s/what//
- # [18:10] <diegobz> Hey all. Is there anyone around experienced with Mozilla properties files used for localization?
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- # [18:11] <Mook_as> diegobz: it's line-oriented, with two tokens separated by a =. There isn't much to be experienced about...
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- # [18:11] <edmorley|sheriffduty> froydnj: :-)
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- # [18:13] <diegobz> Mook_as, I'm interested in knowing what happens in runtime if a particular key is missing from a localized file.
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- # [18:13] <Mook_as> diegobz: it throws an exception, IIRC
- # [18:14] <diegobz> Mook_as, so this would be problematic then, right? https://github.com/robnyman/Firefox-OS-Boilerplate-App/blob/gh-pages/locales/ru/app.properties
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- # [18:15] <diegobz> Mook_as, I'm referring to the commented out lines.
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- # [18:18] <diegobz> Mook_as, this is the way Transifex is returning it, when you have partial translated files. I'm wondering whether we should drop the # from the untranslated entries for the runtime.
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- # [18:20] <Mook_as> diegobz: I believe the l10n build machinery pulls strings from the en-US version in. For desktop, at least; I have no idea about B2G.
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- # [18:24] <@ehsan> froydnj: ping
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- # [18:26] <diegobz> Mook_as, alright, thanks.
- # [18:26] <froydnj> ehsan: pong
- # [18:26] <@ehsan> froydnj: just a sanity check; the mochitest suppression stuff does not affect browser-chrome right?
- # [18:27] <froydnj> ehsan: it does not
- # [18:27] <@ehsan> ok thanks!
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- # [18:28] <st3fan> can anyone point me to an xpcshell test that reads the contents of a test directory?
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- # [18:34] <lsblakk> bz: ping
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- # [18:35] <st3fan> or as an alternative, i can move my test fixtures in a .zip but then i need some example of how to open and read a zip file :)
- # [18:36] <@khuey> edmorley|sheriffduty: is there an ETA on reopening?
- # [18:36] <edmorley|sheriffduty> khuey: when we get green tegra & panda test jobs consistantly
- # [18:36] <edmorley|sheriffduty> so no
- # [18:36] <bz> lsblakk: ack
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- # [18:37] <lsblakk> bz: can you speak to the risk of backing out the enabling patch in bug 887978 ?
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- # [18:38] <lsblakk> bz i asked this in but 981280 fwiw
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- # [18:38] <lsblakk> we could take a backout in FF28 right now as we are still awaiting sec landings
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- # [18:40] <bz> lsblakk: looking
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- # [18:40] <bz> lsblakk: Ah, so I was just talking to reyre about this
- # [18:41] <bz> lsblakk: backout risk is low in terms of unintended consequences, I think
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- # [18:41] <bz> lsblakk: The real question is a policy decision: do we actually want to unship the feature?
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- # [18:41] <bz> lsblakk: the people who'd normally make that call are on vacation or at the Taipei work week. :(
- # [18:42] <bz> lsblakk: reyre mailed cpearce, but I can't offer any guarantees about if/when he'll respond. :(
- # [18:42] <bz> lsblakk: I suppose we could try calling him, though it's pretty early there
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- # [18:46] <@smaug> jaws: which will be the first release with Australis?
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- # [18:46] <jaws> smaug: 29 unless something crazy happens
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- # [18:47] <@smaug> ok, tracking flags for bug 946987
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- # [18:47] * @smaug suggests people to actually go and look Australis on hidpi+Win8
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- # [18:49] <jaws> smaug: that's my default platform. we need hidpi icons badly
- # [18:49] <jaws> but we're not gonna get them in time
- # [18:49] <@smaug> jaws: icons too, but those tabs are horrible
- # [18:50] <@smaug> icons are still ok-ish
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- # [18:50] <jaws> right, which is why they are getting attention
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- # [18:50] <froydnj> jaws: "they" being tabs or icons?
- # [18:50] <jaws> froydnj: the tabs are getting attention
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- # [18:50] <froydnj> jaws: ah, cool
- # [18:51] <@smaug> Bug 946987 doesn't even have tracking29/30+
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- # [18:51] <@smaug> but hopefully that doesn't mean anything in reality in this case
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- # [18:52] <jaws> yeah, it's being followed regardless of those tracking flags
- # [18:52] <jaws> but the flags don't hurt
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- # [18:52] <@dbaron> edmorley|sheriffduty, are the tegra/panda problems known to be related to the power problem, or should a separate bug be filed?
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- # [18:53] <@dbaron> edmorley|sheriffduty, the problem looks pretty lost within the power bug
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- # [18:53] <edmorley|sheriffduty> dbaron: known - they were getting 500s after one of the services didn't come back up
- # [18:53] <edmorley|sheriffduty> dbaron: releng are aware
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- # [18:58] <lsblakk> bz: the alternative would be to release note it as "experimental" support - assuming this is still such a new feature that bugginess would be forgiven by developers
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- # [19:01] <@ehsan> edmorley|sheriffduty: any ETA for the tree to reopen?
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- # [19:02] <NeilAway> bent: QI's parameter is an nsISupports, and we definitely want to allow QI to nsISupports...
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- # [19:04] <bent> NeilAway, sure
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- # [19:04] <edmorley|sheriffduty> ehsan: waiting for releng reconfig to complete
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- # [19:08] <bz> lsblakk: I don't know enough about the feature to tell you whether we're in that situation. :(
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- # [19:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7fad92519116 - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 980858 - On bailout, unconditionally mark baseline frames SPS flag using Ion frames SPS status. r=jandem
- # [19:09] <edmorley|sheriffduty> tree open
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- # [19:12] <edmorley> RyanVM: there are browser-chrome failures in browser_net_accessibility-02.js across multiple trees - not sure what is going on
- # [19:12] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: ping
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- # [19:12] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: pong
- # [19:13] <RyanVM> edmorley: that test name sure makes me suspect it's doing naughty things that fail when we're having network problems
- # [19:13] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: remember FILE_ILLEGAL_CHARACTERS? :)
- # [19:13] <@ehsan> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/nsCRTGlue.h#133
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- # [19:13] <@bsmedberg> a bit
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- # [19:13] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: so, it's wrong, and here's why
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- # [19:14] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: the file illegal characters depends on the filesystem that the file lives on, not on the platform
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- # [19:14] <@ehsan> for example, on Linux, on a vfat filesystem, things such as < and > are illegal
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- # [19:15] <@ehsan> I think we should change the definition to be the most restrictive everywhere
- # [19:15] <@ehsan> i.e., the windows case + "/\\"
- # [19:15] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: what do you think?
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- # [19:15] <bent> ehsan, we use that for indexeddb...
- # [19:15] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: what happens if you try to use <> on the vfat system?
- # [19:15] <@ehsan> bent: that being?
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- # [19:15] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: you fail to write the file
- # [19:16] <bent> the most restrictive of all platforms
- # [19:16] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: see bug 960749
- # [19:16] <edmorley> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah :-/
- # [19:16] <@ehsan> bent: oh ok, so that's 1 point in my favor :)
- # [19:16] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: I don't know why it matters, though. The point of that isn't to prevent you from picking a "bad" filename
- # [19:17] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: the reason why it matters is that a website may use a Content-Disposition header to give us a file name for a download
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- # [19:17] <@bsmedberg> it's merely to keep us from mis-interpreting a malicious control sequence or path separator as a normal path item
- # [19:17] <@ehsan> and we need to know how to sanitize it
- # [19:17] <@ehsan> so that we can be sure that we're able to write it to the filesystem later
- # [19:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4197edad59d6 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 981554 - Move allocator for optimized Baseline stubs from JitCompartment to JitZone. r=njn
- # [19:17] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: I'd have to look at how we use it, then
- # [19:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d849e605e29 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 981553 - Remove JitCompartment::rt. r=nbp
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- # [19:18] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: I don't want to add things to this list which would make it impossible to *read* existing files which have those characters, for example
- # [19:18] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: this is the place where I'm talking about: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/uriloader/exthandler/nsExternalHelperAppService.cpp?force=1#1439
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- # [19:19] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: we never use it to decide whether to read from a file
- # [19:19] <@bsmedberg> ok
- # [19:19] <@ehsan> we just try to open the file, and if it fails, then we fail
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- # [19:19] <@bsmedberg> although I do see use of it in nsFilePicker.cpp
- # [19:19] <@bsmedberg> but it might be harmless, it appears to just affect defaults
- # [19:19] <@ehsan> yep
- # [19:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b80f97b00d2f - Brian Hackett - Bug 979480 - Don't store array buffer contents in elements, r=sfink.
- # [19:20] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: I'm going to r- aus' patch and ask him to make this change then, is that ok with you?
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- # [19:20] <@bsmedberg> I think so
- # [19:20] <@ehsan> thanks!
- # [19:20] <@bsmedberg> can I get a try run before review?
- # [19:21] <@ehsan> of course!
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- # [19:28] <bz> lsblakk: So I tend to think we should disable vtt for 28
- # [19:28] <lsblakk> bz: if it's too buggy, we can definitely make that call
- # [19:28] <lsblakk> it can stay on 29
- # [19:28] <lsblakk> (for now)
- # [19:28] <lsblakk> bz: are you comfortable doing that backout?
- # [19:28] <lsblakk> as you might be the only person around right now for this
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- # [19:29] <bz> lsblakk: I think so
- # [19:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d71d4826df9 - Branislav Rankov - Bug 969375 - MIPS port: Fixed bug in ma_or and ma_xor found by Heiher. r=nbp
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- # [19:29] <bz> lsblakk: Just push to the mozilla-beta repo?
- # [19:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6350391f8550 - Branislav Rankov - Bug 969375 - MIPS port: Moved SecondScratchReg constant to Assembler-mips.h r=nbp
- # [19:29] <lsblakk> bz: actually, to mozilla-release
- # [19:29] <lsblakk> mozilla-beta already merged
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- # [19:30] <bz> lsblakk: updating trees
- # [19:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd25a11b9f63 - Ehsan Akhgari - Debugging patch for bug 857427
- # [19:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: don't worry, I've got a list of oranges to feed you one-by-one :D
- # [19:30] <bz> lsblakk: do you have the bug# to hand, by any chance?
- # [19:30] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: no good deed goes unpunished indeed :)
- # [19:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lsblakk: bz: are we still taking security fixes on beta?
- # [19:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: well, seeing how you just made short work of teh alst one!
- # [19:30] <lsblakk> RyanVM|sheriffduty: we absolutely need on m-r - fwiw, m-b is optional
- # [19:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2ec4ab256e8 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 981856. Use an 888 config when creating a pbuffer. r=jgilbert
- # [19:31] <lsblakk> there will be no more builds from m-b
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- # [19:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: fwiw, the next ones on my list are focus-related I think
- # [19:31] <@ehsan> \o/
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- # [19:31] <bz> lsblakk: no point pushing to beta because it'll just merge in on merge day?
- # [19:31] <@ehsan> those are usually easy
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- # [19:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lsblakk: I'm just saying that if we're still landing pwn2own fixes on 28, it's an easier merge point for other branches than m-r
- # [19:31] <lsblakk> bz: it will get clobbered by mozilla-aurora end as mozilla-beta 29 start, yes
- # [19:31] <bz> lsblakk: on m-r, push to head, or on a branch?
- # [19:32] <lsblakk> RyanVM|sheriffduty: if that works for you, i am not against it
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- # [19:32] <lsblakk> RyanVM|sheriffduty: i just mean we have to have everything on m-r no matter what
- # [19:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yes
- # [19:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and I can see to that :)
- # [19:32] <lsblakk> bz: to default, yes
- # [19:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: one sec
- # [19:32] <lsblakk> bz: i defer to Ryan on logistics of landing
- # [19:32] <lsblakk> RyanVM|sheriffduty understands m-r is final goal
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- # [19:33] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: thanks to the yet-to-land pwn2own fixes that need to be shuffled between various 28 branches, it's easier for me logistically to use beta as a starting point
- # [19:34] <bz> ok
- # [19:34] <bz> So
- # [19:34] <bz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8340575 backs out cleanly on mozilla-release
- # [19:34] <bz> and I would expect on mozilla-beta
- # [19:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yes, they're identical branches at the moment
- # [19:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> just push to beta
- # [19:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i'll get it to m-r
- # [19:34] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Gotcha
- # [19:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> promise :)
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- # [19:37] <@ehsan> padenot: ping
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- # [19:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan: I believe he's flying today
- # [19:40] <froydnj> bz: you should get a doctor to look at that
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- # [19:41] <@ehsan> RyanVM|sheriffduty: doesn't mean he cannot answer my ping :P
- # [19:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> this is true
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- # [19:41] <doctor> froydnj: agreed
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- # [19:42] <bz> froydnj: ?
- # [19:42] <doctor> <froydnj> bz: you should get a --->doctor<---- to look at that
- # [19:42] <doctor> oh wait, wrong person
- # [19:42] <bz> ;)
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- # [19:42] <doctor> bz: and froydnj have the same color for me
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- # [19:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc298e4b0f47 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 938359 - [e10s] Support middle-click scroll (r=felipe)
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- # [19:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9790cf27463 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 983029. Make sure to observe stack discipline for Rooted when initializing a WebIDL union containing the 'object' type. r=khuey
- # [19:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/69473c50b7d8 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 983264. Include callback headers in UnionTypes.h when a callback is used in a union. r=mccr8
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- # [19:54] <bz> lsblakk: I just assumed. ;)
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- # [19:56] <@smaug> BenWa: do we use real or pseudo stack when profiling b2g on devices?
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- # [19:57] <BenWa> smaug: you can use either depend on how you run
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- # [19:59] <briansmith> BenWa: Is it OK to check in the patch in bug 883339? It would be very helpful to me.
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- # [20:00] <BenWa> briansmith: My patch to disable GTEST on PGO is wrong
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- # [20:00] <BenWa> briansmith: If you can find the problem then it should be landable
- # [20:00] <briansmith> Oh, I thought glandium had said it was wrong and then changed his mind
- # [20:01] <briansmith> r- -> r+
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- # [20:01] <BenWa> comment 26 pushed this patch to try and it still tried to run gest on PGO
- # [20:01] <BenWa> So something is wrong somewhere
- # [20:01] <briansmith> OK, thanks.
- # [20:01] <BenWa> briansmith: Would love some help :)
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- # [20:02] <briansmith> BenWa: it sucks to not run the tests in PGO builds anyway.
- # [20:02] <briansmith> Those are the most important builds to test, since that is what we ship/
- # [20:02] <BenWa> briansmith: It's true but sometimes it just isn't worth the cost
- # [20:02] <BenWa> briansmith: It also sucks not having any unit test on windows
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- # [20:03] <briansmith> It adds ~1hr to linking PGO builds, right.
- # [20:03] <briansmith> OK, I will take a look at fixing your patch.
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- # [20:04] <@ehsan> ttaubert: jeez!
- # [20:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7035905efdc4 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 857427 - Fix more problems spotted by ttaubert
- # [20:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lol
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- # [20:05] <ttaubert> ehsan: but the addEventListener() call is wrong, not the removeEventListener() one :)
- # [20:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> <3 ehsan & ttaubert
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- # [20:06] <@ehsan> ttaubert: explain!
- # [20:06] <bz> ehsan++
- # [20:06] <bz> ttaubert++
- # [20:07] <ttaubert> ehsan: addEventListener(function () contextMenuOpened()) registers an anonymous function. must be addEventListener(contextMenuOpened)
- # [20:07] <@ehsan> ah
- # [20:07] <@ehsan> well
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- # [20:07] <@ehsan> ttaubert: that won't work
- # [20:07] <@ehsan> crap
- # [20:07] <@ehsan> let me fix this
- # [20:07] <nemo> http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/google-docs-users-targeted-sophisticated-phishing-scam oooh. this one is evil
- # [20:08] <ttaubert> ehsan: wfm :) we don't really need to pass aWindow
- # [20:08] <@ehsan> yes
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- # [20:08] <@smaug> BenWa: ok. at some point I should learn how to profile on the b2g devices
- # [20:09] <BenWa> smaug: it works better there then linux FWIW
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- # [20:11] <@smaug> (on linux I tend to use Zoom)
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- # [20:11] <bz_away> Or a single machine that ran for a good long while, I guess
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- # [20:11] <davidb> BenWa: the gecko profiler works on b2g?
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- # [20:12] <BenWa> davidb: Very well
- # [20:12] <davidb> TIL
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- # [20:12] <mccr8_> bz_away: Google uses thousands of CPU cores to fuzz http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2011/08/fuzzing-at-scale.html
- # [20:13] <tbsaunde> sfink: ping
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- # [20:13] <sfink> tbsaunde: pong
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- # [20:13] <bz_away> mccr8_: yeah, makes sense
- # [20:14] <tbsaunde> sfink: is there a way to ask gdb what the pretty printer for a given type is?
- # [20:14] <bz_away> mccr8_: vupen too, I would assume
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- # [20:14] <mccr8_> well, probably not so many. ;)
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- # [20:14] <sfink> um, uh. Not sure if there's a nice way, but I seem to remember doing it somehow. Let me look...
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- # [20:16] <@ehsan> ttaubert: if you have more comments, now's the time to speak up :)
- # [20:16] <ttaubert> ehsan: not at the moment :)
- # [20:17] <@ehsan> perfect
- # [20:17] <@ehsan> thanks!
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- # [20:20] <tbsaunde> sfink: tightening up a regex seems ot have fixed it so probably not worth too much effort at this point, but thanks
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- # [20:21] <sfink> tbsaunde: you can sort of figure it out via |python print(mozilla.prettyprinters.printers_by_tag)|, and ptr_printers_by_tag, and ref_printers_by_tag
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- # [20:21] <sfink> and printers_by_regexp, and template_printers_by_tag :(
- # [20:22] <jld> RyanVM|sheriffduty: About bug 982816: Is there a specific commit of mine that caused me to be CC'ed? I'm unfamiliar with the code that's breaking.
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- # [20:22] <sfink> |info pretty-printer| tells you... stuff
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- # [20:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> arnaud_bienner: non-unified is green :)
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- # [20:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2bdd2d042847 - Aaron Klotz - Bug 972577: Consolidate IOInterposer initialization code; r=froydnj,BenWa,jimm
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- # [20:53] <jib> Anyone know if Telemetry::Accumulate can only be called on main?
- # [20:53] <froydnj> jib: you can call it off main
- # [20:53] <froydnj> jib: no locking is done, though
- # [20:53] <jib> froydnj: great, but it is done?
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- # [20:54] <froydnj> "it is done" == "the measurement is recorded"?
- # [20:54] <jib> froydnj: "it is done" = do you know of a place in the tree I can point to and say, see it's ok.
- # [20:55] <froydnj> jib: um. one moment
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- # [20:55] <jib> I couldn't find much mention in docs, is why
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- # [20:57] <froydnj> jib: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/storage/src/TelemetryVFS.cpp#104
- # [20:57] <jib> froydnj: thanks!
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- # [21:00] <whimboo> i hope it will be an easy one
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- # [21:09] <jhopkins> aklotz, kamidphish: i'll want to recreate your rbt-* loaner instances early next week to get the latest configuration changes in. perhaps even this weekend if you're ok with that
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- # [21:10] <jhopkins> thanks
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- # [21:16] <@dbaron> is somebody looking at the jit-test failures on inbound on Mac OS X?
- # [21:16] <@dbaron> er, B2G Desktop
- # [21:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> just closed over it
- # [21:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jsreftest looks like the same issue
- # [21:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> doesn't help that bug 980960 isn't the right bug for that test
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- # [21:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bbouvier: ping
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- # [21:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dbaron: maybe bug 983029?
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- # [21:17] <@dbaron> RyanVM|sheriffduty, don't really have time right now, sorry
- # [21:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bleh
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- # [21:30] <@ehsan> Yoric: ping
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- # [21:34] <bz_away> hrm
- # [21:34] <bz_away> did the orange start with my push?
- # [21:35] <bz_away> on inbound
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- # [21:35] <RyanVM> bz_away: yes, but it's intermittent
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- # [21:35] * bz sighs
- # [21:35] <RyanVM> I clobbered and retriggered per #jsapi's advice
- # [21:35] <bz> '
- # [21:35] <bz> er, 'k
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- # [21:35] <RyanVM> there's just nothing that horribly stands out around that commit
- # [21:36] <RyanVM> except maybe https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b80f97b00d2f?
- # [21:36] <RyanVM> terrence ^
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- # [21:44] <gaston> anyone knows if there's a way to debug extensions lookup in the various scopes besides resorting to printf-debugging ?
- # [21:44] <gaston> i cant make systemwide extensions detected with autodisablescopes=3..
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- # [21:47] <RyanVM> margaret: fx-team orange
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- # [21:48] <RyanVM> bz: just hit a windows instance prior to your push
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- # [21:49] <NeilAway> heh, I must have visited whicever site it is that logs the dino ascii art to the console
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- # [21:51] <mcsmurf> so the Firefox Metro UI will be gone completely?
- # [21:51] <mcsmurf> or just delayed?
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- # [21:51] <RyanVM> moved to a project branch
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- # [21:52] <mcsmurf> k
- # [21:53] <RyanVM> gw280: android crashes on your skia push to inbound
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- # [21:53] <mcsmurf> oh actually it says that..
- # [21:54] <mcsmurf> forgot to read part part of the mail
- # [21:54] <mcsmurf> 2nd
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- # [22:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a582eefb45b2 - Wes Kocher - Backed out 2 changesets (bug 716766) for Android crashes on a CLOSED TREE
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- # [22:05] <KWierso|sheriffduty> gw280: ^
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- # [22:18] <rstrong> gaston: the extensions.logging.enabled pref set to true?
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- # [22:19] <gaston> aha!
- # [22:20] <gaston> meh, so it still doesnt go look into system dirs for extensions
- # [22:20] <gaston> *** LOG addons.xpi: checkForChanges
- # [22:20] <gaston> *** LOG addons.xpi: No changes found
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- # [22:20] <gaston> strange thing is that i see it trying to access "/usr/local/lib/mozilla/extensions/{3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6}" (which seems to be a blocklisted ext) but doesnt try to find extensions in that systemwide dir..
- # [22:21] <rstrong> gaston: try unrestricting the locations to see if it is logged
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- # [22:21] <gaston> i have autodisablescopes=0 and enabledscopes=15
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- # [22:22] <gaston> i also see tb trying to access ~/.mozilla/extensions/{3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6}
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- # [22:22] <gaston> so it looks for that blacklisted uuid in all the dirs, but wont scan the same dirs for new addons
- # [22:22] <@khuey> bsmedberg: no
- # [22:23] <rstrong> gaston: the default value of autodisablescopes is 15 and not 0. enabledscopes is not present by default. Try it with that
- # [22:23] <gaston> i dont want to have disabled scopes
- # [22:24] <gaston> since what i'm trying to achieve is TB to automatically find and enable extensions in the systemwide folder...
- # [22:24] <gaston> sysSExtDir is correctly /usr/local/lib/mozilla/extensions in nsXREDirProvider.cpp...
- # [22:25] <jesup> RyanVM: I have jib's patches for RTCP logging (checkin-needed) staged to land, FYI. Also the Aurora uplift for DataChannels (waiting until it merges to central)
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- # [22:25] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: looks like as things settle down there's going to be b2g webgl bustage too, unless it turns out to be slave-related instead of code-
- # [22:25] <gaston> it works for plugins, why wouldnt it work for extensions...
- # [22:25] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: yeah
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- # [22:26] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: oh, starting from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981856
- # [22:26] <rstrong> gaston: that includes the vendor property and Thunderbird doesnt define the vendor property (e.g. mozilla). I wouldn't be surprised if that was part of the problem.
- # [22:26] <philor> jrmuizel: did you maybe need to adjust the expectations of some tests for that?
- # [22:26] <gaston> huh? you mean itd work for say, ffx and not tb/sm ?
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- # [22:29] <gaston> rstrong: so that means its impossible to make it work properly in tb ?
- # [22:29] <rstrong> gaston: I have no idea if there is a workaround for Thunderbird. I have had to add code to handle this case for updates specifically because Thunderbird doesn't define it.
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- # [22:29] <jrmuizel> philor: well that's fun
- # [22:29] <rstrong> Also, I have no idea if that specific code doesn't already handle it for Thunderbird.
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- # [22:31] <gaston> rstrong: then how come tb tries to access /usr/local/lib/mozilla/extensions/{3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6} ?
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- # [22:32] <gaston> seamonkey fails the same way to detect enigmail in the systemwide dir
- # [22:32] <gaston> so something else is fishy
- # [22:32] <rstrong> gaston: like I said, "I have no idea if that specific code doesn't already handle it for Thunderbird." If it accesses it there is probably something already in place to handle it. If it accesses it though, why wouldn't is load it.
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- # [22:32] <rstrong> does it load it from the profile's extension directory?
- # [22:33] <gaston> it accesses a strange uuid, not the one of the extension present in that dir
- # [22:33] <jrmuizel> philor: I'll fix the tests
- # [22:33] <gaston> /usr/local/lib/mozilla/extensions/{847b3a00-7ab1-11d4-8f02-006008948af5}/ is enigmail, and there's no {3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6}
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- # [22:34] <gaston> the ext is at /usr/local/lib/mozilla/extensions/{847b3a00-7ab1-11d4-8f02-006008948af5}/install.rdf
- # [22:34] <rstrong> gaston: {3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6} is the app id for thunderbird. Place the extension in a subdirectory with the name {3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6}
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- # [22:34] <rstrong> I *think* that's what is going on
- # [22:34] <gaston> you mean it'd try to look in a subdir of the systemwide ext dir ??
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- # [22:35] <rstrong> gaston: I believe it is systemwide and per app
- # [22:35] <gaston> /usr/lib/<vendor>/extensions/<appid>/
- # [22:35] <gaston> DOH
- # [22:35] <rstrong> not systemwide and all apps
- # [22:35] <gaston> indeed
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- # [22:36] <gaston> wow. and i had this in front of me all the time...
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- # [22:37] <gaston> *** LOG addons.xpi: New add-on {847b3a00-7ab1-11d4-8f02-006008948af5} installed in app-system-local
- # [22:37] <gaston> rstrong: many thanks :)
- # [22:37] <rstrong> np
- # [22:37] <rstrong> glad I could help
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- # [22:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46d18be48bc4 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 981856. Mark some B2G WebGL tests as succeeding.
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- # [22:40] <jrmuizel> philor: hopefully that makes things better
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- # [22:42] <gaston> rstrong: that just works perfectly now, both for tb & seamonkey, so thanks again!
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- # [22:44] <gw280> huh
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- # [22:46] <gw280> KWierso|sheriffduty: I don't think my patches caused that reftest crash
- # [22:46] <gw280> KWierso|sheriffduty: this is the try run of those same patches; https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=c914b7631fbb
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- # [22:48] <jesup> glandium: ping
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- # [22:48] <KWierso|sheriffduty> gw280: feel free to reland after the tree reopens
- # [22:48] <gw280> KWierso|sheriffduty: ok
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- # [22:48] <gw280> I'm also looking at the stacktrace from the log and it doesn't appear to be related
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- # [23:16] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: are the green OSX retriggers on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=9bd9dcf4de29 good enough to reopen?
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- # [23:22] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: you mean after you find and back out the non-unified bustage?
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- # [23:22] <philor> someone is a naughty naughty boy
- # [23:23] <philor> would the someone be aklotz?
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- # [23:25] <philor> indeed it would
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- # [23:26] <aklotz> philor: What's going on?
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- # [23:26] <philor> aklotz: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/diff/2bdd2d042847/xpcom/build/nsXPComInit.cpp
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- # [23:27] <philor> took out the include that made https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/diff/2bdd2d042847/xpcom/build/nsXPComInit.cpp#l1.37 work in non-unified builds
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- # [23:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/401e4ec82734 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 2bdd2d042847 (bug 972577) for non-unified bustage on a CLOSED TREE
- # [23:29] <glandium> jesup: pong
- # [23:30] <jesup> glandium: Who's the maintainer for the Ubuntu FF build?
- # [23:30] <Ms2ger> taras, fwiw, lack of persona is what made me not bother with askmo for now
- # [23:30] <jesup> I figured you might know
- # [23:30] <Ms2ger> jesup, chriscoulson?
- # [23:30] <glandium> Ms2ger: he's not involved anymore
- # [23:30] <glandium> jesup: iirc, there's really noone these days
- # [23:30] <Ms2ger> Oh, good to know
- # [23:31] <glandium> jesup: but chris coulson is the right person to ask
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- # [23:32] <jesup> glandium: Aha. we're having "issues" on Ubuntu. And https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-lib/+bug/1008600 makes me so, so sad. (Still not in 13.10)
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- # [23:33] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: but yeah, other than that I think we've beaten some morale back into them by now
- # [23:34] <glandium> jesup: so, it sounds like an alsa problem, not an ubuntu problem, as in, you're likely to hit this problem on any distro, except if it comes from an ubuntu patch
- # [23:34] <KWierso|sheriffduty> gw280: reopened, beat the push race :P
- # [23:34] <glandium> jesup: which means it's hard to rely on it being fixed ; iow, better to find a workaround
- # [23:35] <jesup> glandium: I think it's an OLD alsa. And I haven't seen this on any other distro (modulo we avoid one known bug in that code)
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- # [23:36] <glandium> jesup: debian has the same version of alsa
- # [23:36] <jesup> :-(
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- # [23:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c8641d02a06d - Aaron Klotz - Bug 972577: Consolidate IOInterposer initialization code; r=froydnj,BenWa,jimm
- # [23:37] <gw280> KWierso|sheriffduty: heh
- # [23:38] <glandium> jesup: and according to the upstream site, it's the latest
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- # [23:38] <jesup> Hmmm
- # [23:38] <gw280> KWierso|sheriffduty: so I re-ran the failing Rs and one crashed in a different place, and the other succeeded three times
- # [23:38] <@gavin> rnewman: will you have a chance to get to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=970167 today?
- # [23:39] <jesup> glandium: I have to run for a bit. I'll check in later.
- # [23:39] <@gavin> markh: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976836
- # [23:39] <jesup> glandium: thanks for the info. I wonder if they re-introduced a bug; there was an old bug like this IIRC in the hint code
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- # [23:39] <gw280> KWierso|sheriffduty: I'm going to wait for snorp to weigh in on the bug before I reland I think
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- # [23:58] <glandium> so, we're pulling the plug on metro because there aren't many users of it... otoh, didn't we say that we had too few "normal" users on beta?
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- # [23:58] <rnewman> gavin: yeah, I'll get to it right after I make coffee
- # [23:59] <rnewman> sorry, today turned into Meeting Day
- # Session Close: Sat Mar 15 00:00:00 2014
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