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9. # [00:02] <tbsaunde> glandium: the whole ting seems a bit odd to me, afaik there's been basically no discussion before of it but maybe I just didn't look at the right places
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21. # [00:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a1597e03bde - Andrew McCreight - Bug 948755 - Log incremental cycle collector roots. r=smaug
22. # [00:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6b45e3aa3fda - Andrew McCreight - Bug 982847 - JSGCThingParticipant::Traverse should respect AllTraces. r=smaug
23. # [00:09] <philor> "aren't many users" was probably a typo for "has turned out to be the most reviled thing Microsoft has done since Windows Me, and we don't want to be associated with it"
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25. # [00:09] <philor> the keys are right next to each other, after all
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29. # [00:10] <glandium> tbsaunde: the metro list is definitely silent about it
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31. # [00:11] <NeilAway> hmm, is localeCompare supposed to be case sensitive or case insensitive? It's always been insensitive for me but someone's complaining that it's sensitive on his machine...
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37. # [00:13] <@khuey> NeilAway: if I make some mechanical changes to already_AddRefed do you folks care if I land fixups for it in comm-central without review?
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45. # [00:16] <@smaug> what will khuey break now
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49. # [00:17] <@khuey> smaug: 967364
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57. # [00:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4ab661c30430 - Steve Fink - Bug 983344 followup warning fix
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65. # [00:27] <NeilAway> khuey: sorry, was looking at another window
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70. # [00:30] <NeilAway> khuey: so, exactly what are you expecting to break?
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72. # [00:31] <@khuey> NeilAway: I'm renaming .get
73. # [00:31] <@khuey> and adding some assertions that you use the value in an already_AddRefed
74. # [00:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b5722e8c9a77 - Jeff Walden - Bug 983344. r=sfink, a=dveditz
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78. # [00:34] <tbsaunde> glandium: ok, I don't know about you but that strikes me as pretty odd
79. # [00:34] * tbsaunde was grabbing dinner
80. # [00:35] <glandium> tbsaunde: yeah
81. # [00:35] <glandium> mbrubeck: ^
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84. # [00:36] <mbrubeck> tbsaunde, glandium: The decision was basically handed down from the steering committee. :(
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87. # [00:37] <@smaug> mbrubeck: feels really odd to me
88. # [00:37] * @smaug really liked metrofox
89. # [00:37] <NeilAway> khuey: who uses .get() anyway?
90. # [00:37] <glandium> mbrubeck: so, why are we not "handing it to the community" like persona?
91. # [00:38] * NeilAway wonders how you find file removals in hgweb
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93. # [00:38] <fabrice> glandium: because there's no Metro community?
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95. # [00:38] <mbrubeck> glandium: jimm is working on creating a project branch to continue maintenance
96. # [00:38] <mbrubeck> We'll do what we can
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99. # [00:39] <tbsaunde> smaug: I don't particularly care either way, but I agree it seems like an odd way for things to happen
100. # [00:39] <mbrubeck> But a full-on Toolkit-based web browser is a pretty big maintenance burden. Just ask romaxa. :/
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103. # [00:39] <@smaug> fabrice: but the UI itself is good. Whenever I rarely boot to Win8, I use metrofox even though I don't have a touch screen
104. # [00:39] <mbrubeck> (He was the "community maintainer" of XUL Fennec after we stopped funding development, but stopped after 6 release cycles or so.)
105. # [00:40] <fabrice> smaug: I believe you
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109. # [00:40] <KWierso|sheriffduty> alternatively, I use desktop Firefox Nightly on my 8 inch tablet :P
110. # [00:40] <fabrice> we should just ship b2g+gaia on metro
111. # [00:41] <mbrubeck> fabrice: Maybe not Gaia as it exists now, but I definitely think we should ship a webapp runtime designed for Win8/metro
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113. # [00:42] <mbrubeck> fabrice: That could really bring a lot more users+devices to the Firefox Marketplace...
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115. # [00:42] <glandium> mbrubeck: is that branch going to have automation?
116. # [00:42] <fabrice> mrbkap: I think the upcoming haida version would fit very well
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118. # [00:43] <fabrice> hm mbrubeck^
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122. # [00:43] <fabrice> mbrubeck: at least that's worth trying
123. # [00:43] <mbrubeck> glandium: jimm was talking about setting up nightly builds at least; not sure what level of automation support he's aiming for.
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125. # [00:43] <glandium> mbrubeck: at least some is better than none. None would guarantee its death
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127. # [00:44] * @smaug wonders if MS is interested in anymore to contribute to Gecko after this
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129. # [00:44] <mbrubeck> fabrice: Chrome did the OS-within-an-OS thing; it feels kind of weird. (Especially since it's really a *third* environment, alongside Windows desktop and Windows "metro".)
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131. # [00:44] <mbrubeck> fabrice: I think it would be better to make Firefox Marketplace apps installable directly to the Windows start screen
132. # [00:44] <glandium> smaug: they're contributing to gecko?
133. # [00:44] <@smaug> yes
134. # [00:44] <mbrubeck> glandium: romaxa and another person from MS Open Tech are implementing Pointer Events in gecko.
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137. # [00:45] <glandium> mbrubeck: i hadn't realized romaxa was at microsoft now
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139. # [00:46] <mbrubeck> but somehow still finding ways to work on firefox. :)
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146. # [00:50] <rnewman> Sylvestre: I flung a couple of last-minute Aurora approvals your way; take a look if you have time!
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149. # [00:53] <RyanVM> rnewman: we can probably sneak them in monday morning still too
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151. # [00:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b6bf2687d93f - David Major - Bug 919735: For VS2013, put the 32-bit PGO files first on the PATH. r=ted
152. # [00:54] <rnewman> RyanVM: yay
153. # [00:55] <rnewman> there's one more thing I wanted to get into 29 Aurora but will probably end up in the first Beta; a mobile parallel to that desktop approval
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155. # [00:55] <rnewman> which I'd have landed a week ago if it wasn't for my constantly growing review queue
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159. # [01:00] <billm> ted: ping?
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163. # [01:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e768e11d2c6 - L. David Baron - Bug 697451 - Stop overriding line-height (max-ing with 1.0) on inputs other than single-line text inputs. r=bzbarsky
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173. # [01:09] <lsblakk> Waldo: does your patch on 982974 also land cleanly to branches? wondering what's left for uplift to m-r so we can go to build
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180. # [01:11] <RyanVM> lsblakk: IIUC, the branches are going to need different patches
181. # [01:12] <Waldo> lsblakk: no, it doesn't land cleanly, this area of code has changed a lot :-(
182. # [01:12] <lsblakk> boo
183. # [01:12] <Waldo> you wouldn't believe it
184. # [01:12] <billm> jmaher|afk: ping when you get back?
185. # [01:12] <RyanVM> oh god, I'm quoting pop music
186. # [01:12] <RyanVM> WE CAN'T STOP!
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188. # [01:12] <Waldo> multiple landings in the last couple days that I'm backing out in order to land fixes
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190. # [01:12] <Waldo> it's madness
191. # [01:13] <Waldo> (landings to trunk/inbound, that is)
192. # [01:13] <Waldo> branches may be stabler, but they're also older code
193. # [01:13] <lsblakk> RyanVM: are you going to take the bug 983344 landing to m-r?
194. # [01:13] <RyanVM> you know it :)
195. # [01:13] <RyanVM> no quitting till the job's done
196. # [01:13] <lsblakk> sweet
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199. # [01:14] <lsblakk> ok, so Waldo basically the landing of branch-safe fix to m-r for bug 982974 is the only thing standing in the way of building our FF28 RC (and also ESR24 and mobile 28)
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201. # [01:14] <lsblakk> i can trigger that *as soon* as it's ready/landed
202. # [01:14] <lsblakk> anytime
203. # [01:14] <lsblakk> tonight, late, whatever
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205. # [01:15] <lsblakk> is it seeming like today/tonight is an option from what you know right now?
206. # [01:15] <RyanVM> lsblakk: at best, we're a few hours out
207. # [01:15] <lsblakk> sure, that's fine
208. # [01:16] <lsblakk> like i said, i can trigger when we're ready even if it's later on
209. # [01:16] <RyanVM> will ping :)
210. # [01:16] <lsblakk> RyanVM: still need 982974 though, which doesn't have branch patch yet
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212. # [01:16] <RyanVM> yup, there'll be time to do that while it's runnign on inbound
213. # [01:16] <lsblakk> ah, ok
214. # [01:17] <lsblakk> alright then - i'm going to commute home
215. # [01:17] <lsblakk> will watch for ping
216. # [01:17] <RyanVM> ttyl
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218. # [01:17] <lsblakk> thank you all for this insane work
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220. # [01:18] <firebot> Check-in:
221. # [01:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/963a4aa83275 - Jeff Walden - Back out dd53db747a5e (bug 945152 part 2) to clear way for other fixing. Should reland in short order (before merge) after those other fixes land. r=backout
222. # [01:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b29e7ac771e - Jeff Walden - Back out a5377cd1e45e (bug 945152 part 1) to clear way for other fixing. Also should reland in short order once those other fixes land. r=backout
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224. # [01:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa8369f3ad57 - Jeff Walden - Bug 983344. r=sfink
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226. # [01:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ad76a457e582 - Jeff Walden - Back out b80f97b00d2f (bug 979480), it's in the way of more immediately important work. r=backout
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249. # [01:31] <KWierso> jrmuizel: ping
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251. # [01:31] <jrmuizel> KWierso: pong
252. # [01:31] <KWierso> jrmuizel: looks like you're still failing those tests? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=36172249&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
253. # [01:31] <KWierso> and now some more? :S
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255. # [01:32] <jrmuizel> ketas: hmmm
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257. # [01:32] <jrmuizel> KWierso: hmm
258. # [01:32] <jrmuizel> KWierso: it's probably best to just back me out
259. # [01:32] <KWierso> jrmuizel: can do
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262. # [01:32] <jrmuizel> KWierso: make sure you take out https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46d18be48bc4 as well
263. # [01:32] <KWierso> yep
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270. # [01:35] <KWierso> jrmuizel: done
271. # [01:35] <jrmuizel> KWierso: thanks
272. # [01:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e86e89e463f - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 46d18be48bc4 (bug 981856) for b2g gl bustages
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302. # [01:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/80fad01e53bb - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 970686: Undo extensions to wrong rtcp methods in webrtc.org r=jesup
303. # [01:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c8e80efab6fb - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 970686: Outbound getStats: Fixed RTCP timestamps and remote packets/bytes received. r=jesup
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307. # [01:59] <@ted> billm: pong (briefly)
308. # [01:59] <billm> ted: nm. I think I sorted out my problem.
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311. # [02:01] <@ted> k
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321. # [02:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/160108f82b62 - Luke Wagner - Port bug 936236. r=shu on the original patch, port pretty much trivial modulo a rename or two, a=dveditz
322. # [02:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/30a46e893204 - Jeff Walden - Bug 982974 - Be paranoid about neutering ArrayBuffer objects. r=sfink, r=jorendorff, a=dveditz
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341. # [02:20] <Waldo> looking at inbound now, fwiw
342. # [02:23] <RyanVM> Waldo: that's not yours
343. # [02:23] <Waldo> okay
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345. # [02:23] <RyanVM> same garbage as earlier that was "fixed" by a clobber
346. # [02:23] <RyanVM> ironically, we thought it might have been from bug 979480
347. # [02:24] <RyanVM> so maybe the backout needed another clobber :P
348. # [02:24] <KWierso> yay, the clobberer finally accepted my clobbering
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357. # [02:32] <philor> mmm, is the 983344 on m-i the same as the one on m-c?
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363. # [02:37] <RyanVM> yes
364. # [02:37] <RyanVM> we should have merged m-c back over
365. # [02:37] <RyanVM> oh well
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403. # [03:05] <RyanVM> KWierso: seeing some green pandas again
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405. # [03:06] <KWierso> yay
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407. # [03:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78646f067fd3 - Ed Morley - Bug 918507 - Disable browser_dbg_chrome-create.js on the remaining platforms, since it doesn't clean up after itself; CLOSED TREE
408. # [03:08] <philor> can't believe we've been starring browser_dbg_chrome-create.js all day
409. # [03:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ab661c30430 - Steve Fink - Bug 983344 followup warning fix
410. # [03:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f19c420744bd - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-c to a CLOSED TREE m-i
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514. # [04:30] <RyanVM> jib: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=36181316&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
515. # [04:31] <jib> RyanVM: ok, test too agressive again. :-( I'll fix it.
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518. # [04:33] <jib> XP clock drift
519. # [04:33] <philor> if you're going to test the milliseconds, you're not going to have a good time
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522. # [04:34] <jib> I hope padding it out a little will take care of it
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525. # [04:35] <jib> philor: do you advice against any comparisons of timestamps?
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527. # [04:35] <philor> jib: whenever I get the chance to, yes!
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529. # [04:35] <jib> hmm
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531. # [04:36] <jib> philor: how come?
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533. # [04:37] <philor> jib: I've been starring our test failures since... 2005? 2006? and I don't really remember anyone ever saying "there, now I've fixed it so that long trail of orange from comparing milliseconds will never come back!"
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535. # [04:37] <philor> I do remember me saying "disabled" "disabled" "disabled" "disabled" though
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540. # [04:41] <jib> philor: ok, but the test actually helped me find a bug, my rtcp timestamps were from the wrong end.
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542. # [04:42] <philor> heh
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546. # [04:43] <jib> and it's just XP
547. # [04:44] <philor> and I'd love it if we hired someone to write us a way to deal with flaky tests, so you could leave it running despite the way it will fail all the time on WinXP, and at some other random rate on other platforms, and then only you would get alerted when it looked like it was failing more often, but everyone would get alerted when it failed more than some number of times in a row
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550. # [04:45] <philor> but if we did, they'd get immediately reassigned to half-assedly running some other set of tests on b2g
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552. # [04:47] <RyanVM> ah yes, the infamous quarantine idea
553. # [04:47] <jib> Is there a way to disable the test on XP?
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555. # [04:48] <jib> i.e. skipthe ok() statement
556. # [04:48] <RyanVM> no
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558. # [04:48] <RyanVM> well
559. # [04:48] <RyanVM> you could do it in-test if you're smart
560. # [04:48] <RyanVM> but at the manifest level, only all windows
561. # [04:48] <jib> ok how?
562. # [04:48] <RyanVM> dammit, I knew that was ocming next
563. # [04:48] <RyanVM> but that I don't remember offhand :(
564. # [04:49] <RyanVM> i know I've seen similar for osx
565. # [04:49] <RyanVM> philor? ^
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568. # [04:49] <philor> I just search for isosxmtnlion, because I can remember that
569. # [04:50] <philor> navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Mac OS X 10.8") != -1;
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571. # [04:50] <jib> isWinXP!
572. # [04:50] <philor> you can wash the shame off afterward, it just takes a while
573. # [04:50] <RyanVM> win
574. # [04:51] <philor> but if you're skipping every ok(), you do have to do one fake test
575. # [04:56] <bz_dinner> What's the #ifdef version of MOZ_BUILD_APP ?
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580. # [04:59] <Manishearth> So I'm setting up my own local tryserver.
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583. # [05:00] <Manishearth> Simple hg repo with a hook that does building and testing and probably emailing
584. # [05:00] <Manishearth> So that I can just push patches to local try and not worry about overwhelming my laptop
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586. # [05:01] <Manishearth> Any tips? If I could get tbpl running too that would be awesome
587. # [05:01] <jib> philor: thx!
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598. # [05:05] <philor> Manishearth: I really doubt you would enjoy setting up a local tbpl, since it depends on buildbot+tons-of-patches to produce its data, with massive amounts of reverse-engineering on both sides producing a huge house of incomprehensible cards
599. # [05:05] <Manishearth> philor: Thought so :P
600. # [05:05] <Manishearth> would be a fun project though
601. # [05:06] <Manishearth> I'll stick with a simple local push-and-test thing.
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606. # [05:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba906e6a3b0b - Benjamin Peterson - No bug - Fix some unused variable warnings in optimized builds. r=me
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613. # [05:14] <jib> RyanVM: patch up
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615. # [05:14] <RyanVM> jib: yeah, I'm not exactly comfortable reviewing that
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617. # [05:14] <jib> ok, anyone else awake?
618. # [05:14] <jib> philor?
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623. # [05:17] <philor> jib: sorry, that just looks like intermittent-failure to me
624. # [05:17] <philor> yeah, less than now, but still
625. # [05:17] <jib> how come?
626. # [05:19] <jib> the tests are literally: packets should not arrive before they're sent, and not in the future. i.e. the clock drift would have to be pretty terrible
627. # [05:19] <jib> e.g. xp
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629. # [05:19] <jib> ideas welcome
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631. # [05:20] <philor> if isWinXP todo(false, "can't reliably test this on WinXP") is my idea
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633. # [05:21] <philor> in the phrase "my magic number isn't big enough" it's the first three words I object to
634. # [05:21] <jib> ok
635. # [05:21] <philor> somewhere we have a page on "how to write reliable tests" and Date.now() + 1000 is most of the counter-examples ;)
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637. # [05:24] <jib> philor: I haven't read that page :-)
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640. # [05:25] <philor> and I don't know what it actually is, or whether it's available to you, but you might want to look at performance.now(), which I think was supposed to work around this for you
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648. # [05:31] <jib> philor: oddly we're already using realtime timers on xp at least, so not sure why they're coming out off
649. # [05:31] <jib> could actually be a bug somewhere
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652. # [05:34] <RyanVM> jib: philor: yeah, I was going to suggest talkign to avih about it
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654. # [05:35] <RyanVM> he's had to deal with similar clock skew issues in the past
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657. # [05:35] <RyanVM> anyhoo, off to bed now that I've sent a couple hundred b2g spams
658. # [05:36] <RyanVM> they told me they wanted the 1.3T flags set
659. # [05:36] <RyanVM> OK!
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661. # [05:36] <jib> goodnight
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664. # [05:38] <jib> philor: patch up
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680. # [05:58] <Manishearth> Huh, getting some failures on a fresh clone of m-c
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682. # [05:58] <Manishearth> in browser/base/content/test/general/browser_bug409481.js
683. # [05:59] <Manishearth> It's beinr run headless with Xvfb, but I get other failures on my clone as well. Hmm
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685. # [05:59] <Manishearth> *local clone
686. # [05:59] <Manishearth> *being
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762. # [07:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8eecfc351b6 - Aaron Klotz - Bug 973353: Disable IOInterposer when reporting a crash; r=froydnj,ted
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865. # [10:44] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
866. # [10:44] <KWierso|afk> Ms2ger: nah
867. # [10:45] <Ms2ger> Dammit you
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870. # [10:46] <KWierso|afk> Ms2ger: I know when I'm needed :P
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872. # [10:47] <Ms2ger> ... in bed?
873. # [10:47] <KWierso|afk> soon
874. # [10:47] <Ms2ger> Not holding my breath
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876. # [10:48] <KWierso|afk> I was actually heading to bed when I saw you post :P
877. # [10:49] <Ms2ger> Yeah, yeah :)
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892. # [11:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2cb90e6d143f - ffxbld - No bug, Automated HSTS preload list update from host bld-linux64-spot-485 - a=hsts-update
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903. # [11:37] <snig_wal> Hey, I am having issues with build. I get the following error, and several more of this kind: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4590786
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905. # [11:38] <snig_wal> Can anyone tell me what this means.
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907. # [11:39] <nthomas|away> there's not any error there. perhaps you were trying to pick out the relevant lines from a parallel build ?
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909. # [11:39] <nthomas|away> error message from the compiler I mean
910. # [11:40] <snig_wal> I did a grep -i "error" on the build log
911. # [11:40] <snig_wal> I was unable to run ./mach run
912. # [11:40] <nthomas|away> see if you can figure out how to run mach without parallelism
913. # [11:41] <snig_wal> Without parallelism means?
914. # [11:41] <nthomas|away> like make -j1
915. # [11:43] <snig_wal> you mean ./mach build > log is parallelism based?
916. # [11:43] <nthomas|away> IIRC it does some sort of intelligent selection based on how many CPU cores you have
917. # [11:44] <snig_wal> I am sorry, but I don't follow what you are trying to say.
918. # [11:45] <nthomas|away> ok, try './mach build -j1' and see if you get clearer output on the error
919. # [11:45] <snig_wal> Oh ok.
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926. # [11:57] <snig_wal> Output now: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4590890
927. # [11:58] <nthomas|away> I suggest a few more lines before that, and hope someone familiar with that code comments
928. # [12:00] <snig_wal> You think the error is due to MediaBufferDecoder.cpp ?
929. # [12:03] <nthomas|away> I think you can't tell from those few lines, need more
930. # [12:03] <nthomas|away> gotta run, good luck
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933. # [12:06] <edwin> snig_wal: Are errors printed to stderr instead of stdout?
934. # [12:07] <edwin> I notice you're redirecting to a file. Try putting ' 2>&1 > log' instead of just plain ' > log' and see if it gives you more.
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937. # [12:09] <snig_wal> Ok.
938. # [12:12] <edwin> Shit wait, I messed that up
939. # [12:12] <edwin> snig_wal: That should be ' > log 2>&1'
940. # [12:15] <snig_wal> Will do that.
941. # [12:17] <snig_wal> Nope still the same old: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4591017
942. # [12:17] <snig_wal> The error on ./mach run is : It looks like your program isn't built. You can run |mach build| to build it. Binary expected at /root/mozilla-central/obj-i686-pc-linux-gnu/dist/bin/firefox does not exist.
943. # [12:18] <edwin> You can't run it if it never built properly :)
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946. # [12:20] <edwin> snig_wal: Is anything written to your terminal even after you redirect the output? There shouldn't be an `Error 2' without an `Error 1' above it.
947. # [12:20] <snig_wal> No nothing at all.
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951. # [12:22] <edwin> Ergh. This makes no sense.
952. # [12:23] <snig_wal> I guess this started occurring after I made some changes to .mozconfig file to download gaia. Now, I have reverted the changes, but the error stays.
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954. # [12:24] <edwin> Unless each level of make level does a '>', clearing the output. I wonder if `>> log' would give you more output.
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956. # [12:25] <edwin> Just a crazy guess, though. If that doesn't work then just try it without the file redirect and use your terminal search to find the string `error:'
957. # [12:25] <edwin> bleh.
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959. # [12:25] <snig_wal> Ohk sure. Anything to make it work :)
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961. # [12:28] <snig_wal> Umm, a developer said something about parallel builds earlier. I don't know what that means, but the first line of build output is: 0:00.32 /bin/gmake -f client.mk MOZ_PARALLEL_BUILD=1 -s
962. # [12:28] <snig_wal> Anything wrong here?
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964. # [12:29] <edwin> Even if it were a problem related to parallel builds, you should still be getting proper error messages.
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968. # [12:31] <snig_wal> Printed to terminal. Still no sign of Error 1.
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975. # [12:32] <edwin> snig_wal: That's pretty fubar. Could you pastebin the whole output?
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978. # [12:34] <snig_wal> ya sure. Here: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4591112
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983. # [12:38] <edwin> Hmm yeah, looks like it might be related to unified builds, or something just getting corrupted for reasons that escape my sleep deprived reasoning.
984. # [12:38] <edwin> To rule out random corruption for no reason, try `./mach clobber && ./mach build'
985. # [12:39] <edwin> If it's still broken in the same way, add `ac_add_options --disable-unified-compilation' to your .mozconfig and run the above command.
986. # [12:39] <edwin> (note that a clobber will take a while)
987. # [12:39] <snig_wal> Hmm ok.
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1002. # [13:01] <edwin> snig_wal: Has the first build finished yet? I have to catch a flight soon. (although if neither of those are it I'm out of ideas for now...)
1003. # [13:02] <jesup> snig_wal: I'd do a hg diff to start, the rm -rf obj* and ./mach build (even more extreme than clobber)
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1006. # [13:02] <jesup> If you've started a clobber, you can let that run and see
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1008. # [13:04] <edwin> jesup: I thought that's what clobber did
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1010. # [13:05] <jesup> it didn't use to IIRC, but maybe I'm just sleepy
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1012. # [13:07] <edwin> Just tried it now; definitely |rm|s the objdir
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1020. # [13:14] <jesup> I may be mistaking clean and clobber, or things changed. Too sleepy
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1068. # [14:30] <edwin|vroooom> snig_wal: Just got the to airport. I should hope the build isn't *this* slow!
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1072. # [14:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ff12456c32b - Wan-Teh Chang - Bug 967153: Update to NSS 3.16 (NSS_3_16_RTM) and NSPR 4.10.4
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1097. # [15:00] <snig_wal> edwin|vroooom: I'm sorry, I assumed you had left. But yes it worked! Thanks a ton :D
1098. # [15:00] <jib> How do I make a patch clobber?
1099. # [15:01] <jib> I think there was some file I could touch
1100. # [15:01] <Ms2ger> CLOBBER
1101. # [15:02] <Ms2ger> Have you filed a bug about it?
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1104. # [15:03] <jib> Ms2get: yes Bug 979886
1105. # [15:04] <jib> Ms2ger: where's the CLOBBER file?
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1107. # [15:04] <Ms2ger> jib, root of the tree
1108. # [15:05] <jib> Ms2ger: Thanks! (that was obvious :-/ )
1109. # [15:05] <Ms2ger> :)
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1166. # [16:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55a5dcbe33e5 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 960523 - Add Baseline IC stub for fun.call(). r=djvj
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1178. # [16:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/51da1475de06 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 960523 followup - Fix comment typo. DONTBUILD
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1200. # [16:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3917d9bfb8fe - Bill McCloskey - Bug 983921 - Rename test_SimpleTestGetTestFileURL.html so it doesn't get skipped (r=jmaher)
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1277. # [17:54] <philor> sctp_ulp_notify
1278. # [17:54] <philor> ulp? did *I* name this stuff?
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1297. # [18:19] <Optimizer> Is this true : http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/14/mozilla-stops-work-on-firefox-for-windows-8/ ?
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1305. # [18:26] <fabrice> Optimizer: yes. see https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2014/03/14/metro/
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1397. # [19:38] <jesup> philor: dare I ask why you're concerned about sctp_ulp_notify?
1398. # [19:39] <philor> jesup: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=36191746&tree=Fx-Team
1399. # [19:39] <philor> I like the "handle abort" "ulp, better tell someone about that"
1400. # [19:40] <jesup> philor: bug #?
1401. # [19:40] <philor> bug todayisfilledwithdistractions
1402. # [19:40] <jesup> almost certainly fallout from the SCTP library update a week ago or so
1403. # [19:40] <jesup> I'll file
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1405. # [19:40] <jesup> thx
1406. # [19:41] * philor pats his distractions
1407. # [19:41] <philor> good distractions!
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1410. # [19:43] <jesup> ;-)
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1440. # [20:02] <jesup> philor: thanks for the heads up. That's a reopen of bug 876167; the workaround in that bug was backed out when the library update landed a few days ago - but it appears the bug in the library was not actually fixed. I'll backout the backout :-/ Hmm, do I need an r= on that?
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1442. # [20:03] <philor> nope
1443. # [20:03] <jesup> philor: ok
1444. # [20:03] <jesup> rs=philor ;-)
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1447. # [20:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/32f48d6d3389 - Kyle Huey - Bug 967364: Rename already_AddRefed::get to take. r=bsmedberg
1448. # [20:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1123c64bca9e - Kyle Huey - Bug 345123: Remove nsGetterAddRefs<T>'s operator nsISupports**. r=bsmedberg
1449. # [20:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/128a9757865e - Kyle Huey - Bug 981150: Use nsTArrayForwardDeclare.h more. r=ehsan
1450. # [20:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a07dde918187 - Kyle Huey - Bug 967364: Pass already_AddRefed by reference instead of by value. r=bsmedberg
1451. # [20:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4d78ec7d6f0d - Kyle Huey - Bug 967364: Replace crazy already_AddRefed handling with something reasonable. r=jesup
1452. # [20:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/89e4000c2f40 - Kyle Huey - No bug: Remove unnecessary initializations of nsCOMPtr. r=me
1453. # [20:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/49dfebffbf8e - Kyle Huey - Bug 967364: Privatize already_AddRefed::mRawPtr. r=bsmedberg
1454. # [20:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff034c181ae4 - Kyle Huey - Bug 967364: Use every already_AddRefed. r=bsmedberg
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1456. # [20:05] <jesup> Oh wow, what could *possibly* go wrong with this landing. I'm getting my backout in ASAP before things burn ;-)
1457. # [20:05] <@khuey> :)
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1459. # [20:05] <@khuey> I waited for the weekend for a reason
1460. # [20:06] <philor> jesup: don't hurry, or you'll steal his builds
1461. # [20:06] <philor> on weekends, we spin up AWS build slaves at a speed that would make you think drugged hamsters are involved in the spinning
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1465. # [20:07] <jesup> Ok, things won't pop out soon; I'll wait a bit before pushing :-)
1466. # [20:07] <philor> after 14 minutes, my merge to m-c has gotten a total of... zero
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1469. # [20:09] <philor> actually, I think I'll close inbound, so nobody makes the mistake of not realizing they don't want to get involved with that
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1471. # [20:12] <@khuey> it's green on try https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=3bca5450f459
1472. # [20:12] <@khuey> it's merging it with the other trees I expect to be a PITA
1473. # [20:12] <Gijs> :(
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1480. # [20:16] <philor> reopened, now we just need to keep those spun up slaves busy after they finish, so we don't have to start them again
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1483. # [20:17] <@khuey> philor: I assume there's a bug o nfile for this?
1484. # [20:17] <@khuey> that nobody is paying attention to?
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1486. # [20:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ed8689acdfa - Randell Jesup - Bug 876167: backout the backout since it appears the upstream bug is not fixed rs=philor
1487. # [20:18] <philor> or paying attention in inadequate ways
1488. # [20:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ba906e6a3b0b - Benjamin Peterson - No bug - Fix some unused variable warnings in optimized builds. r=me
1489. # [20:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b8eecfc351b6 - Aaron Klotz - Bug 973353: Disable IOInterposer when reporting a crash; r=froydnj,ted
1490. # [20:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/aa52fe58c9cb - Wes Kocher - Merge m-c to inbound
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1492. # [20:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fb7fef480e48 - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-i to m-c
1493. # [20:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/55a5dcbe33e5 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 960523 - Add Baseline IC stub for fun.call(). r=djvj
1494. # [20:19] <philor> according to my vague memory of last weekend, I filed one and commented in two
1495. # [20:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8ff12456c32b - Wan-Teh Chang - Bug 967153: Update to NSS 3.16 (NSS_3_16_RTM) and NSPR 4.10.4
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1497. # [20:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3917d9bfb8fe - Bill McCloskey - Bug 983921 - Rename test_SimpleTestGetTestFileURL.html so it doesn't get skipped (r=jmaher)
1498. # [20:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/51da1475de06 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 960523 followup - Fix comment typo. DONTBUILD
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1514. # [20:40] <saprative> hi
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1523. # [20:50] <kushagra> saprative: tip: start with the question. skip the hi :P
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1526. # [20:51] <Gijs> philor: windows red on my push on fx-team, but I'm confused by it
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1528. # [20:51] <Gijs> philor: didn't come anywhere near a util.js, but otoh, looks like the previous push was fine?
1529. # [20:51] <philor> Gijs: can we blame it on jwalker?
1530. # [20:52] <Gijs> I... I guess?
1531. # [20:52] <Gijs> Still don't understand why it's broken this late though
1532. # [20:52] <Gijs> did it need a clobber and was he just lucky up till now?
1533. # [20:52] <philor> of course since I've already merge him, I'm not going to enjoy blaming it on him
1534. # [20:52] * Gijs also needs to board a plane soon :(
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1536. # [20:52] <Gijs> actually, how about getting to the gate first
1537. # [20:52] <Gijs> I should do that. :)
1538. # [20:53] <Gijs> hopefully back in a bit, but I might not be. :(
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1540. # [20:53] <philor> what airline?
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1545. # [20:55] <@khuey> hopefully not Oceanic Airlines
1546. # [20:55] <Ms2ger> Or Malaysia...
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1550. # [21:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44bf014423b7 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 983916 - Remove the classinfo on WebContentConverterRegistrar; r=gavin
1551. # [21:00] <philor> khuey: anything in https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/a9b0fb8b90bc#l2.1 look racy, or should I bet on needs-clobber?
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1554. # [21:08] <Ms2ger> philor, I say backout for lank of build peer review
1555. # [21:08] <Ms2ger> lack
1556. # [21:09] <Anupkumar> waves Ms2ger o/
1557. # [21:09] <@khuey> oh boy
1558. # [21:09] <@khuey> those could proceed in parallel, where they were sequential before
1559. # [21:09] <@khuey> no idea if it's racy without knowing what else they do
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1564. # [21:13] <Gijs> KLM
1565. # [21:13] <Gijs> Europe, so I'm using at-gate wifi, no in-air wifi
1566. # [21:14] <philor> well, at least KLM hasn't flown off radar recently
1567. # [21:14] <Gijs> it'd be hard to do on the 1h AMS-BHX route...
1568. # [21:14] <Gijs> don't think there's any bits without radar coverage
1569. # [21:14] <Gijs> but, knock on wood, I guess?
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1586. # [21:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20d7e584a25d - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 979489. Add an additional pixel of fuzz to border-image-element test
1587. # [21:31] <philor> hmm, wonder whether the geolocation tests actually intend to leave their "*** WIFI GEO" running and spewing through the whole rest of mochitest-4
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1590. # [21:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/664df0574f11 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 981856. Use an 888 config when creating a pbuffer. r=jgilbert
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1592. # [21:37] * NeilAway wonders why khuey just added a bunch of extra addrefs and releases
1593. # [21:39] <@khuey> because nsTArray doesn't handle r-value references yet
1594. # [21:39] <@khuey> I have patches ot remove them
1595. # [21:39] <@khuey> but they need review
1596. # [21:42] <froydnj> they need to be posted, too ;)
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1601. # [21:45] <@khuey> froydnj: yeah
1602. # [21:46] <@khuey> froydnj: b2g doesn't like them for some reason :(
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1607. # [21:53] <froydnj> khuey: the gcc 4.4 implementation of r-value references has...problems
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1610. # [21:54] <@khuey> froydnj: indeed
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1612. # [21:54] <@khuey> hence my dev-b2g post yesterday
1613. # [21:54] <froydnj> khuey: tbsaunde ran into this when adding move constructors to nsCOMPtr
1614. # [21:55] * froydnj should probably follow dev-b2g
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1616. # [21:55] <@smaug> um, more addref/release
1617. # [21:55] <@khuey> oh god what have we done
1618. # [21:55] <@khuey> the dragon is awake
1619. # [21:55] <froydnj> khuey: you're going to update the gcc version for b2g? *squee*
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1621. # [21:56] <@khuey> froydnj: gal wants to move to clang
1622. # [21:56] * @smaug spent last night reading more papers about CC and refcounting
1623. # [21:56] <@khuey> froydnj: that sounds a bit scary ;-)
1624. # [21:56] * @khuey would settle for gcc 4.6
1625. # [21:57] <froydnj> if you're going to upgrade, you should go to at least gcc 4.7
1626. # [21:57] <jcranmer> gcc 4.4 implements basically the first revision of rvalue references
1627. # [21:58] <jcranmer> it's really unsuitable for a lot of cases
1628. # [21:58] <jcranmer> I really wish we could move b2g off of gcc 4.4
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1631. # [21:59] <jcranmer> considering that moving it is likely to be a massive shitstorm, it would be nice if we could convince people to move it all the way to gcc 4.8.1
1632. # [22:00] <@khuey> we're limited to the versions that android ships an ndk with
1633. # [22:00] <@khuey> afaik
1634. # [22:00] <@khuey> which means 4.6 is the best we can do
1635. # [22:01] <jcranmer> I'd settle for nothing less than 4.6
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1637. # [22:01] <@khuey> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.b2g/iwYrXGfXpHs/toak3ON3uEoJ
1638. # [22:02] <@khuey> apparently gcc > 4.6 is possible
1639. # [22:02] <@khuey> I didn't see cpeterson's post yesterday
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1641. # [22:03] <jcranmer> gcc 4.6 gives us lambdas and real nullptr support
1642. # [22:03] <jcranmer> oh, and local structs as template parameters
1643. # [22:04] <@khuey> what are we using on desktop?
1644. # [22:04] <@khuey> 4.6?
1645. # [22:04] <jcranmer> 4.7 I think
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1647. # [22:04] <jcranmer> maybe we switched to 4.8
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1649. # [22:06] <jcranmer> looks like 4.7.3
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1738. # [23:36] <glandium> froydnj: we use ndk r8e
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1749. # [23:41] <shinigamiryuk> where can I view/download the source code of MXR??
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1752. # [23:43] <ttaubert> shinigamiryuk: https://hg.mozilla.org/webtools/mxr/
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1757. # [23:47] <shinigamiryuk> ttaubert, Awesome :)
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1769. # [23:54] <froydnj> glandium: for b2g?
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