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20. # [00:08] <gwagner> KWierso|sheriffduty: thanks!
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22. # [00:08] <Mossop> I can't remember which of the bajillion authentication services I used to sign in to ask.mozilla.com so I guess I'll just never sign in again
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24. # [00:09] <KWierso|sheriffduty> gwagner: nothing landed on top of those, right?
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27. # [00:10] <gwagner> KWierso|sheriffduty: doesn't look like
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40. # [00:14] <Hixie> hsivonen: yt?
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45. # [00:16] <@smaug> Hixie: tiny bit late for him
46. # [00:17] <Hixie> yeah, it was a long shot
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50. # [00:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a581605984b8 - Steve Fink - Bug 985143 - Comment updates to new ArrayBuffer storage scheme
51. # [00:18] <ekr> gps: ping?
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56. # [00:19] <mrbkap> philor: ping?
57. # [00:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e84a391b604b - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 8764e9f061d0 (bug 980679) for a smoketest regression
58. # [00:19] <philor> mrbkap: wassup?
59. # [00:20] <mrbkap> philor: Hey, I was wondering why bug 976479 comment 104 comes from you instead of tbplbot.
60. # [00:20] <mrbkap> philor: Are you starring more manually than some or is it some other trick?
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62. # [00:21] <philor> mrbkap: it's because it happens in any test it wants to, not just the ones in the summary - there isn't infinite room for testnames, so some have to be done manually
63. # [00:21] <mbrubeck> http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/5529
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65. # [00:21] <mrbkap> philor: ah, I see.
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67. # [00:22] <philor> there's magic that tries to find crash signatures, but having other intermittents filed for the test where it crashed defeats that
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69. # [00:23] <mrbkap> philor: okay... hopefully I get review on that patch soon and we fix it.
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72. # [00:25] <Waldo> man, tbplbot of sorts is four years old at this point? depressing
73. # [00:25] <philor> rats, and I missed comment 900 in that bug too
74. # [00:25] <Waldo> thank goodness virtual slave labor is legal
75. # [00:25] <Waldo> tbplbot: the oranges will continue until morale improves
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88. # [00:31] <philor> wow, don't people know how to uncc? not only do we have multiple active intermittent-failure bugs over 2500 comments, but they have people still cced
89. # [00:31] <philor> of course, I didn't realize we did since I filter it all
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91. # [00:34] <mrbkap> philor: They might have also set "don't send me bugmail from this bug"
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95. # [00:36] <mccr8> by default, checking the don't set me bugmail doesn't remove you from the CC list
96. # [00:36] <mccr8> and in fact it CCs you by default
97. # [00:37] <@khuey> which is pretty crazy
98. # [00:37] <@khuey> but here we are
99. # [00:38] <mccr8> I filed a bug to make bugzilla uncheck the "CC me" box when you check "don't mail me" but my idea was rejected. ;)
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103. # [00:43] <nthomas> dear lazyirc, are there bugs on file for these issues with Nightly on Android - 1) lots of flickering repainting (?) parts of pages, regression in the last few days, 2) lots of 'Nightly is not responding' messages from Android and Nightly unresponsive, often after not using Nightly for a while. 1-2 weeks ago for that
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105. # [00:46] <@khuey> nthomas: might want to ask in #mobile
106. # [00:46] <nthomas> ta
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109. # [00:48] <billm_> khuey: can you describe some of the use cases for these DOM objects that need weak refs? I've always had a hard time understanding why you would need such a thing.
110. # [00:48] <@khuey> billm_: did you read my bit about how we would implement this in C++?
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113. # [00:49] <billm_> khuey: I'm more interested in why someone would want to listen for something, but only as long as there are references to them
114. # [00:50] <billm_> khuey: most of the time, it seems like there's a clear point where they want to stop listening, and you can just break everything down then
115. # [00:50] <billm_> but people keep bringing up these issues, so I realize there must be times when it's important
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120. # [00:51] <@khuey> billm_: so for DataStore we listen for a message that is broadcast whenever anyone makes changes to the underlying data
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122. # [00:51] <@khuey> billm_: and we use that to fire change events if anyone is listening
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127. # [00:52] <@khuey> in that case we really want to just only add the listener if someone adds a change event listener
128. # [00:52] <@khuey> but that's not really possible in the current setup :(
129. # [00:52] <billm_> khuey: why not?
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131. # [00:53] <@khuey> billm_: because of the way JS WebIDL subclassing works, we can't override methods that are implemented in the C++ base
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135. # [00:54] <@khuey> billm_: a lot of these seem to be cases where we're receiving a change broadcast from somewhere
136. # [00:54] <@khuey> billm_: and only care about it some of the time
137. # [00:54] <@khuey> not all of them use DOM events, so not all of them have the same problem that datastore does
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140. # [00:55] <billm_> khuey: in the cases that don't use DOM events, is there some other way we could know if it's important to notify them of the change?
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142. # [00:56] <@khuey> billm_: the ActivityWrapper uses inner-window-destroyed solely to send a "I failed" event back somewhere
143. # [00:56] <@khuey> which is something you would do in a dtor in C++
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149. # [00:57] <@khuey> billm_: well I think the usual criteria would be "if I haven't already been GCd"
150. # [00:57] <@khuey> billm_: but registering for the event modifies the GC behavior, of course
151. # [00:58] <mccr8> I don't have any evidence to back it up, but I feel like any time you want to use an observable weak reference, you have done something wrong. ;)
152. # [00:59] <@khuey> I think I disagree when you're in a language without destructors
153. # [00:59] <@khuey> I realize we're in one of the great ratholes of computer science here
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155. # [01:00] <billm_> khuey: well, the one thing we have, which you probably know about, is NondeterministicGetWeakMapKeys
156. # [01:01] <mccr8> ah yes, you can implement observable weak references using that.
157. # [01:01] <@khuey> billm_: sure, but using that feels very dirty :)
158. # [01:01] <billm_> khuey: good
159. # [01:01] <mccr8> ha
160. # [01:01] <billm_> :-)
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163. # [01:02] <@khuey> billm_: I think in general, there's a desire to do something in a DOM impl when content it becomes unreachable from content
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165. # [01:02] <@khuey> remove the first 'content' there ;-)
166. # [01:03] <billm_> khuey: does NondeterministicGetWeakMapKeys not do what you need?
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169. # [01:03] <billm_> khuey: it doesn't do that, but it sounds like it could solve some of these broadcasting issues
170. # [01:03] <@khuey> I mean it could in theory ...
171. # [01:03] <@khuey> it just feels dirty to start building real features on it
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175. # [01:04] <billm_> khuey: are you asking for a new JS language feature that would be exposed to content and all?
176. # [01:04] <@khuey> no, I don't think so
177. # [01:05] <@khuey> I don't think we care about content here
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179. # [01:05] <@khuey> smaug pointed out that we might already have this ...
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184. # [01:06] <billm_> it seems like our existing weak observer stuff problems
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188. # [01:06] <billm_> since it doesn't actually remove a reference to something until we try to notify it
189. # [01:06] <@khuey> yes
190. # [01:06] <@khuey> jlebar filed a bug about this long ago
191. # [01:06] <@khuey> but we never finished fixing it
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194. # [01:07] <@smaug> we should fix that bug
195. # [01:08] <billm_> khuey: anyway, I don't think there's likely to be much desire to add new mozilla-specific JS features
196. # [01:08] <billm_> khuey: so an API is the best you'll get, and NondeterministicGetWeakMapKeys seems like it might work for you
197. # [01:08] <@smaug> I proposed chrome only WeakPromises
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199. # [01:09] <@smaug> which wouldn't keep callbacks alive
200. # [01:09] <@khuey> ok, thanks
201. # [01:09] <@smaug> we'd need to still go through those weak promises occasionally to kill those ones which don't hold any value
202. # [01:09] * @khuey will ponder this
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229. # [01:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c35101b1c6fd - Kyle Huey - Bug 968031: Remove threadsafe refcounting from ContentParent and add it to the cycle collector graph. r=bent,mccr8
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251. # [01:40] <KWierso|sheriffduty> !seen mccr8
252. # [01:40] <firebot> mccr8 was last seen 39 minutes and 15 seconds ago, saying 'ha' in #developers.
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259. # [01:45] <mccr8> hmm I guess I didn't do a try run with those patches but without the hash table conversion...
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262. # [01:46] <KWierso|sheriffduty> mccr8: I have a backout ready to push unless you have a quick fix
263. # [01:47] <mccr8> KWierso|sheriffduty: nah, go for it. sorry.
264. # [01:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c20a5739d0c - Wes Kocher - Backed out 13 changesets (bug 975823) for leaks on a CLOSED TREE
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308. # [02:16] <nthomas> hmm, google docs, why you use 100% cpu on NIghtly
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317. # [02:22] <@smaug> nthomas: profile, please?
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319. # [02:22] <nthomas> gah, already worked around
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321. # [02:23] <nthomas> I'll leave the tab open again and see if it happens again
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339. # [02:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1500506a6c4 - Robert Strong - Bug 899352 - Increase the installation timeout for the stub installer. r=bbondy
340. # [02:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7fc260be35da - Robert Strong - Bug 899363 - Implement stub installer data ping version 6. r=bbondy
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358. # [02:46] <reuben> is the chromium source code indexed somewhere?
359. # [02:46] <reuben> https://mxr.mozilla.org/chromium/ doesn't seem to be updated
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363. # [02:47] <@khuey> reuben: if it's not updated bug IT
364. # [02:48] <@khuey> reuben: google has their own index somewhere
365. # [02:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a274b437515d - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 879616 - adjust close icons for OS X to deal with bright lightweight themes, r=MattN, a=sylvestre
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367. # [02:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0c853fd14db5 - Matthew Noorenberghe - Bug 984188 - Don't invert icons for -moz-lwtheme-brighttext in the overflow panel. r=mikedeboer, a=sylvestre
368. # [02:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a5052e8ce163 - Mike de Boer - [Australis] Bug 983655: fix combined and menu-button buttons styling in the overflow panel. r=Gijs, a=sylvestre
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374. # [02:52] <benjamin> the famous beefy google machines with the entire source tree in memory?
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379. # [02:53] <walexi> hi
380. # [02:54] <walexi> pls how do i contact or chat with psiinon
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387. # [02:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/812c528dce3a - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 979118 - Add global MMX_FLAGS, SSE_FLAGS and SSE2_FLAGS variables; r=glandium
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389. # [02:58] <@ehsan> reuben: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/codesearch
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392. # [02:59] <@ehsan> reuben: yes, google never actually killed codesearch!
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402. # [03:02] <@bz> Man
403. # [03:02] <@bz> a dup of 22274
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405. # [03:02] <@bz> wild
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450. # [03:19] <@roc> anyone have any idea about this B2G emulator test failure? The test passes on all other builds and seems to not even get started in the emulator for reasons I don't understand: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=36400199&tree=Try&full=1#error0
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455. # [03:20] <@roc> it loads every helper script (forms.js, BrowserElementScrolling.js etc) twice for some reason...
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463. # [03:23] <glandium> sigh stupid build systems
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465. # [03:24] <glandium> freetype now finds the host harfbuzz when cross-compiling freetype for android and thus enables harfbuzz support
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469. # [03:29] <erahm> Are the B2G emulator reftests not working on tbpl? My builds complete but the tests never seem to run (as in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=90a5427cbb54)
470. # [03:29] <philor> roc: I wouldn't be surprised if the log looks sort of confused because we mishandle crashes on b2g desktop - the bit about "Failure'Failure' when calling method: [nsIPromptFactory::getPrompt]" might be from opening a busted crashreporter or something like that
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474. # [03:31] <philor> roc: did you touch test_event_target_iframe_oop.html, or was your parent broken? those "Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0"." messages before you even started are what we pointlessly output when we're taking a screenshot from a timeout, in desktop-desktop
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478. # [03:34] <philor> erahm: looks like more than just reftests, from looking at pushes below yours
479. # [03:35] <philor> I think armenzg added emulator reftests running on AWS to try in today's reconfig, looks like maybe he completely broke scheduling of any emulator tests at all while doing so
480. # [03:36] <erahm> philor: ok well at least I'm not crazy :)
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485. # [03:38] <philor> erahm: if you really really really want them, today, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=793989#c34 might trigger them, depending on where the bustage is
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494. # [03:47] <philor> erahm: and thank you for pointing it out: we stopped running them on every tree, at 9 this morning, and nobody even noticed until you did
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500. # [03:50] <@dbaron> philor|away, is there a bug filed on emulator tests not running?
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503. # [03:51] <@dbaron> ah, indeed, 985810
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558. # [04:32] <KWierso> mmm... seven combined gaia patches in that push...
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580. # [04:57] <KWierso> philor: how much would you care if I just reverted all of those seven gaia patches to fix b-i, since none of them is blatantly at fault? :)
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582. # [04:58] <philor> KWierso: keep in mind that you are asking someone who will just close b2g-i and go to bed, because it's too much bother to get someone to respond on IRC
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584. # [04:58] <philor> I wouldn't care if you reverted to December, or 2011
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604. # [05:14] <Unfocused> hey look, we can open the trees now we got our first test failure on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=B2g-Inbound&rev=d24f6b625536&jobname=emulator
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607. # [05:17] <@khuey> bah
608. # [05:17] <@khuey> why is everything broken
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618. # [05:22] <nigelb> khuey: how long have you been a mozilla contributor again? :D
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621. # [05:22] <@khuey> nigelb: too long?
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624. # [05:23] <nigelb> heh
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629. # [05:26] <philor> Unfocused: sure, we can open that tree, except then we'll close it for its other bustage
630. # [05:26] <Unfocused> would that be before or after i land? :)
631. # [05:27] * philor blinks at fx-team
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633. # [05:27] <philor> didn't I retrigger there?
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635. # [05:27] <philor> a million miles down, where last it built
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640. # [05:29] <Unfocused> gotta admit, i find it a little silly we have a fx-team branch that gets closed for b2g bustage
641. # [05:30] <philor> yeah, we should instead have a hook that rejects any pushes that might affect it
642. # [05:31] <philor> browser/-only ftw
643. # [05:33] <@khuey> man, this stuff is really broken
644. # [05:33] <philor> don't actually have to wait for my belated retrigger on f-t, though, get a clean bill of health from the tip of m-c and I'll call it good at that merge
645. # [05:33] * @khuey wonders if we tested it at all
646. # [05:33] <@khuey> x-rays are crazy
647. # [05:33] <philor> of course it's not tested, look for the skip-if = true
648. # [05:34] <@khuey> heh
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651. # [05:36] * philor curses the gaia bumper
652. # [05:37] <KWierso> philor: should all be reverted in gaia now
653. # [05:37] <KWierso> though that won't help until we reopen b-i
654. # [05:37] <philor> KWierso: yeah, I know, but there were probably commits before the revert, and after the revert, and this system just sucks
655. # [05:37] <KWierso> amen
656. # [05:37] * philor opens it long enough to get the one massive bump, anyway
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660. # [05:39] <philor> should make the bumper parse commit messages, and only push 'revert' with a=bustage, so we could approval-required to get clear
661. # [05:39] <KWierso> philor: would've been easier if a single person didn't mass merge 7 pull requests in the course of three minutes
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671. # [05:46] <philor> Bumping gaia.json for 15 gaia revision(s)
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674. # [05:48] <KWierso> mmm
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677. # [05:49] <philor> in Firefox OS::General?
678. # [05:49] <@khuey> nah, Core::DOM
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705. # [06:15] <Jerry> heycam, about the restyle patch, I have sent the email to you. Thanks!
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707. # [06:15] <heycam> Jerry, ok will reply
708. # [06:15] <Jerry> heycam, thx!
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714. # [06:20] <philor> KWierso: hmm, why does that b2g desktop Windows failure look so familiar?
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727. # [06:30] <aja> heycam: so it's --customprop: something; and var(customprop) ?
728. # [06:31] <heycam> aja, --customprop: something; and var(--customprop)
729. # [06:32] * aja rewrites a local test or two
730. # [06:32] <Alessar> Hello. Anybody knows in which conference room I can find kats?
731. # [06:33] <aja> heycam: it _has_ been sorta difficult to follow that discussion....especially without an updated draft
732. # [06:34] <heycam> aja, this was discussed in the WG call last night, and Tab is going to update the spec tomorrow
733. # [06:34] <aja> yep....finished reading an hour or so ago
734. # [06:34] <aja> heycam: new bug, or reopening old one?
735. # [06:34] <heycam> just filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=985838
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739. # [06:39] <aja> heycam: add a dep for the old bug? (i'd have found the new bug already, if so)
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742. # [06:40] <aja> glad it got resolved one way or the other today
743. # [06:40] <heycam> me too
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747. # [06:43] <Callek> hahaha: http://mozillamemes.tumblr.com/post/79273500526/unfocused-knows-the-difference-between-going-big
748. # [06:43] <Callek> "philor is impressed"
749. # [06:45] <glob> XD
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753. # [06:47] <KWierso> philor: bug 897352 says it's dealt with
754. # [06:49] <KWierso> awaiting a reopened tree to bump into
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756. # [06:49] <aja> going big?
757. # [06:50] <KWierso> go big or go home :)
758. # [06:51] <philor> KWierso: could you take over? my DSL is dead, so I'm tethered to a phone that describes itself as having 2 bars of "1x" whatever that is, and DNS that can't find bmo
759. # [06:51] <KWierso> philor: I can for about 15 more minutes
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770. # [06:59] <Alessar> Hello. Anybody can review patch in area, which usually review by kats?
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774. # [07:01] <nalexander> Alessar: kats is usually around in #mobile; but he's on EST, so it's like 2 am there. Have you set flags on the ticket? How long has the r? been out?
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804. # [07:19] <Alessar> Thanks. About which flag did you say? Please, see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=979345#c6
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816. # [07:25] <jesup> gps: "mach interrupted by signal or user action. Stopping" (on windows) -- too bad it never actually gives me a prompt back
817. # [07:26] <glandium> jesup: mozmake?
818. # [07:26] <jesup> glandium: ./mach build 2>&1 | tee /tmp/x
819. # [07:27] <glandium> jesup: that doesn't answer the question
820. # [07:27] <jesup> ps shows tee and python running
821. # [07:28] <glandium> jesup: that still doesn't answer the question
822. # [07:29] <jesup> glandium: then I don't understand how to answer the question... This was mid-build (somewhere in netwerk)
823. # [07:29] <glandium> jesup: are you using mozmake or not?
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826. # [07:32] <jesup> I haven't done anything specific to change the defaults, if that's what you're asking
827. # [07:32] <glandium> jesup: do you have mozmake on your machine?
828. # [07:32] <jesup> this is an inbound build
829. # [07:33] <jesup> which mozmake -> not found
830. # [07:33] <glandium> ookay, so this clears out the issue i had in mind
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832. # [07:35] <jesup> All I did was ^C. Any info to gather, or should I try to nuke it from another shell? additional ^C's have no effect.
833. # [07:35] <glandium> jesup: if you were on linux, you could attach gdb and get a python stack trace... on windows...
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837. # [07:37] <philor> okay, averaging runs across trees, pretty close to unbroken, trunk is mostly reopened
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845. # [07:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44bea44e2f61 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 959973 - Followup to actually run the tests. r=dbaron
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854. # [07:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d12ab8bf5fe - John Daggett - Bug 950526 - don't dump textruns within nsTextFrame::DidSetStyleContext. r=dbaron
855. # [07:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c9e91c268d4 - John Daggett - Bug 921858 - check for spaces in textrun before skipping word cache. r=jfkthame
856. # [07:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/677211f8c2e2 - John Daggett - Bug 921858 - distinguish space features in default features from those in non-default features. r=jfkthame
857. # [07:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4faf43711dac - John Daggett - Bug 921858 - reftest to test various space-containing lookup scenarios. r=jfkthame
858. # [07:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5f4ed799fa3 - John Daggett - Bug 950526 - reftest for first-line handling of font styles. r=heycam
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860. # [07:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/652e389a3592 - John Daggett - Bug 921858 - whitelist font families to avoid space lookup check for default features. r=jfkthame
861. # [07:47] <jesup> glandium: fails if you pipe the output somewhere :-((((
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864. # [07:48] <jesup> which is my standard so I can look at all the compiler output spew in something more useful than a small scrollback window
865. # [07:48] * jesup is amazed we still don't have an option to mirror all the output to a log file (and have that be the default)
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868. # [07:49] * jesup is also happy he doesn't have to fight with the build env on windows....
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870. # [07:49] <glandium> jesup: you mean, like mach -l ?
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872. # [07:50] <glandium> (i agree with the have that be the default part)
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874. # [07:51] <glandium> (please file a bug for that)
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876. # [07:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5333221d0d23 - Daniel Holbert - (no bug) Remove whitespace at end of line in nsPresShell, nsIPresShell, and nsPresContext. (whitespace-only, DONTBUILD)
877. # [07:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17fcc961ae65 - Daniel Holbert - (no bug) Remove whitespace at end of line in FrameLayerBuilder. (whitespace-only, DONTBUILD)
878. # [07:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/516102bfc246 - Daniel Holbert - (no bug) Remove whitespace at end of line in nsCSSFrameConstructor. (whitespace-only, DONTBUILD)
879. # [07:53] <jesup> Aha. Missed that. I normally don't use mach directly for builds on linux out of habit; I mostly use it on windows or to do things like run mochitests. With -l, it may make sense to change that
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960. # [08:45] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
961. # [08:45] <glandium> Ms2ger: bonsoir
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969. # [08:52] <nigelb> Good Morning Ms2ger
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977. # [08:58] <h4writer> Goede morgen Ms2ger
978. # [08:59] <glandium> yurk, flemish
979. # [08:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh
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984. # [09:01] <KWierso|afk> ow!
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986. # [09:01] <Ms2ger> I was waiting for you
987. # [09:02] <glandium> i will not tolerate such violence
988. # [09:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> KWierso|afk: sleep :)
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1019. # [09:25] <ochameau> hey
1020. # [09:26] <ochameau> any xul expert around? I'd imagine it is a rare knowledge these days...
1021. # [09:26] <ochameau> I'm looking at someone that actually knows something about toolkit/content/widgets/general.xml
1022. # [09:26] <glandium> ochameau: that's not xul, that's xbl
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1024. # [09:27] <Unfocused> (i'm going to regret this) ochameau: what you need?
1025. # [09:27] <ochameau> yes I know but xul is made using xbl... I wish we could replace a few xbl bits in there in pure c++ or anything-else-other-than-xbl!
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1027. # [09:28] <ochameau> Unfocused: no worry, I'm willing to contribute. I just don't know if it's even possible to improve that.
1028. # [09:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cbfa74565211 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 978077 - IonMonkey: Set returntype of MMinMax to double if one of its arguments is, r=jandem
1029. # [09:28] <ochameau> Unfocused: you see the iframe binding inthis xbl?
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1031. # [09:28] <ochameau> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/content/widgets/general.xml#86
1032. # [09:29] <Unfocused> yep
1033. # [09:29] <ochameau> it implements some very important attribute on xul:iframe, like contentWindow and contentDocument
1034. # [09:29] <ochameau> the bad thing is that... this xbl binding... is sometimes applied *after* the load event of the iframe
1035. # [09:30] <ochameau> that ends up introducing many exception in devtools if we stress the UI a bit
1036. # [09:30] <Unfocused> oh fun
1037. # [09:30] <glandium> ochameau: it sounds like a low level problem you'd want to fix, rather than workaround at the high level
1038. # [09:30] <ochameau> so my question is, can we somehow implement these two properties in C++ somewhere?
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1040. # [09:30] <Unfocused> yes
1041. # [09:31] <Unfocused> but, thats beyond my knowledge
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1043. # [09:31] <Unfocused> i usually stay away from the c++ side of xul/sbl if i can help it
1044. # [09:31] <Unfocused> er, xbl
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1046. # [09:32] <ochameau> glandium: hum... but is it any fixable at low level?! I think we are just doomed because of xbl
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1048. # [09:33] <ochameau> Unfocused: I opened bug 985549, do you know if I can n? someone to help me on that?
1049. # [09:33] <glandium> ochameau: ask neil
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1052. # [09:34] <Unfocused> ^
1053. # [09:34] <ochameau> enndeakin?
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1055. # [09:35] <NeilAway> try forcing a layout flush to get the xbl bound
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1057. # [09:35] <Unfocused> er, that would work... kinda not awesome performance wise though
1058. # [09:35] <glandium> ochameau: needinfoed him already
1059. # [09:36] <NeilAway> e.g. http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/base/content/plugins.js#597
1060. # [09:37] <ochameau> ahah
1061. # [09:37] <ochameau> but still I'd have to call clientTop anywhere I use a xul:iframe
1062. # [09:39] <NeilZZZ> only when you add it to the document, I think
1063. # [09:41] <ochameau> it means we have to modify all browser/ codebase where we are using a xul:iframe (to ensure that it really never can happen)
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1065. # [09:41] <Unfocused> yea... i don't think you should be doing that in the main firefox window. sync layout flushes kill performance
1066. # [09:42] <Unfocused> if its just in tests, then fine
1067. # [09:42] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey guys sorry m-i, m-c and b2g-i are closed again for issue with gitmo
1068. # [09:42] <Rik_> gitmo has issues? let's switch to hg! </fabrice>
1069. # [09:42] <ochameau> no here, I can see that happen in firefox, you just have to stress the UI to get into this race
1070. # [09:42] <Unfocused> Tomcat|sheriffduty: i can't decide if that's the most appropriate or the least appropriate nickname for that
1071. # [09:43] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
1072. # [09:43] * Rik_ is now known as Rik
1073. # [09:43] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nattokirai: ping
1074. # [09:43] <ochameau> I'm afraid some users face this race with slow hardware or old firefox sessions quite easily :/
1075. # [09:44] <Unfocused> ochameau: then IMO, sync layout flush is not an acceptable solution
1076. # [09:44] <nattokirai> tomcat: what's up?
1077. # [09:44] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey nattokirai seems your push caused reftest failures
1078. # [09:44] <ochameau> I can easily do smarter workaround in chrome code... really. I have many options.
1079. # [09:44] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> like https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=36430688&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
1080. # [09:45] <ochameau> here I'm just trying to figure out if I can avoid having to monkey patch many browser chrome code
1081. # [09:45] <ochameau> by fixing that at platform level
1082. # [09:45] <Unfocused> yea, it should be fixed there
1083. # [09:45] <nattokirai> hmmm, you mean the ones on android?
1084. # [09:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
1085. # [09:45] <nattokirai> pigfart
1086. # [09:46] <ochameau> I'm just afraid we can't fix that at platform level. It sounds like a known limitation of xul
1087. # [09:46] <nattokirai> okay, backing out...
1088. # [09:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nattokirai: i can do this for you, tree is closed anyway
1089. # [09:46] <nattokirai> yes, please, thanks
1090. # [09:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok np :)
1091. # [09:47] <nattokirai> hang on
1092. # [09:48] <nattokirai> can you just back out the changes for bug 950526?
1093. # [09:48] <nattokirai> tomcat:^
1094. # [09:48] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah will do
1095. # [09:48] <nattokirai> perfect, thanks
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1112. # [10:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/79a62689ba10 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 1d12ab8bf5fe (bug 950526) for android reftest failures on a CLOSED TREE
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1114. # [10:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0c893bb0da5 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset d5f4ed799fa3 (bug 950526)
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1154. # [10:32] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok trees are open :)
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1171. # [10:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3891b9d0b1e3 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 981462 - Save and restore live array buffer lists over minor GC r=terrence
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1178. # [10:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9456eb36466e - Jonathan Kew - bug 978847 - test for window opened at extreme off-screen coordinates. r=roc
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1239. # [11:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb274bf64633 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 983984 - Default AudioChannel from a pref, r=ehsan, r=roc, r=mchen
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1249. # [12:01] <fredw> hsivonen: Hi. I've reported an HTML5 schema bug https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25104 but I'm not sure the category/cc'ed list are correct. Could you check?
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1252. # [12:03] <Yoric> !seen gozala
1253. # [12:03] <firebot> gozala was last seen 1 day, 14 hours, 31 minutes and 8 seconds ago, saying 'dcamp: https://github.com/Gozala/addon-sdk/blob/jeps/devtools/Developer%20pane.md' in #devtools.
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1259. # [12:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/260154a65e57 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 985526 part 2 - Use notifyOne instead of notifyAll in StartOffThreadParseScript and StartOffThreadCompression. r=bhackett
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1264. # [12:14] <NeilAway> bagder: that sounds like something that should be on ask.m.o
1265. # [12:15] <bagder> true!
1266. # [12:15] <bagder> I actually found the answer on a very much voted stackoverflow question
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1274. # [12:18] <Yoric> ted: Could you take a look at bug 976205? If I have your r+ (or even f+), I'd like to discuss a landing strategy for this, as it's going to be very much non-trivial.
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1277. # [12:19] <Ms2ger> fredw, I think I moved it to a better place
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1281. # [12:21] <fredw> Ms2ger: thanks!
1282. # [12:21] <Ms2ger> Np
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1309. # [12:52] <clancer> hi everyone, I am a GSoC student. I have submitted a proposal for making lightning fast. https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/student/google/gsoc2014/clancer/5872285445521408 I know people and mentors are busy, but could anyone have a look and give me some feedback please?
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1315. # [12:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey clancer welcome to mozilla, i guess #introduction is better place for your question
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1319. # [12:57] <clancer> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ah thank you for telling me this =D
1320. # [12:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np :) this channel here is more for mozilla development and stuff
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1337. # [13:13] <@smaug> Yoric: what kind of js finalization thing we have?
1338. # [13:14] <Yoric> toolkit/components/finalizationwitness
1339. # [13:14] <@smaug> (I think that is not what we need for observer service etc)
1340. # [13:14] <Yoric> Intentionally very limited.
1341. # [13:14] <Yoric> sure
1342. # [13:14] <Yoric> Just throwing ideas around.
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1344. # [13:14] <@smaug> right
1345. # [13:15] <@smaug> yeah, it is a bit similar
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1349. # [13:19] <@smaug> the idea with wrappedJS thing is that since observer service anyway holds wrappedjs (possibly via nsWeakRef) to the js callbacks, we could just add something to wrappedjs to let its users to know when the object is gone
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1352. # [13:25] <Yoric> Note that finalizationwitness uses notifications, because it was a simple tool for the task, but if this code starts being used in non-exceptional circumstances, it will need a more lightweight mechanism.
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1355. # [13:26] <sewardj> anybody know if hg.m.o is having problems?
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1357. # [13:26] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hi sewardj what kind of problems do you mean ?
1358. # [13:26] <sewardj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: timeouts, can't push to try
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1360. # [13:29] <sewardj> Tomcat|sheriffduty: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4633292
1361. # [13:30] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm according to status.mozilla.com it should work
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1364. # [13:33] <Pike> bounce, baby, bounce -- says my bugmail
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1373. # [13:48] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Pike: yeah doublebackout for this one patch it seems
1374. # [13:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Pike: at least the windows build is working this time hopefully
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1378. # [13:50] <Pike> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I wonder if it's pymake vs not
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1380. # [13:51] <Pike> the logs looked like that, as much as I can still read those
1381. # [13:51] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: ^ its bug 897352 (the in and out b2g-i checkin)
1382. # [13:52] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hm we should have on try and inbound the same i would think
1383. # [13:52] <RyanVM> correct
1384. # [13:52] <RyanVM> same build slaves across the trees
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1388. # [13:54] <Pike> did we stop having try-only slaves?
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1390. # [13:54] <RyanVM> oh, you're right we do have Try-only slaves
1391. # [13:54] <RyanVM> but they still use pymake
1392. # [13:54] <RyanVM> that's an in-tree config
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1394. # [13:54] <RyanVM> but you've got logs in that bug from both try and non-try
1395. # [13:54] <RyanVM> you can confirm that for yourself
1396. # [13:55] <RyanVM> make.py = pymake
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1400. # [13:56] <Pike> note, there are broken paths on the try build, too: c:buildsmoz2_slavetry-w32_g-00000000000000000000.buildobj-firefoxmerged
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1450. # [14:23] <Optimize1> RyanVM: are you planning to land the checkin? you cancelled in bug 984141 ?
1451. # [14:23] <RyanVM> yes
1452. # [14:23] <RyanVM> double-setting is unnecessary
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1456. # [14:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e6978476efa - Douglas Crosher - Bug 944612 - Guard the ElfLoader sigaction wrapper against the SIGSEGV handler not being installed. r=glandium
1457. # [14:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2cd13f9fe11e - Dave Hunt - Bug 979512 - Add a command line option to split the tests and run a specified chunk. r=jgriffin
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1459. # [14:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d728a04f31b - Rick Eyre - Bug 977302 - Perform automatic text track selection. r=rillian
1460. # [14:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d2907ddca55 - Mike Hommey - Bug 985803 - Explicitly disable harfbuzz in freetype. r=mwu
1461. # [14:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4dc79f490573 - Jed Davis - Bug 975273 - Add missing include to unbreak desktop seccomp build. r=kang
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1467. # [14:31] <Optimize1> RyanVM: just to avoid confusion on what to land :)
1468. # [14:31] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ping
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1471. # [14:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bkelly: pong
1472. # [14:32] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hi! one of my bugs was backed out last night... bug 980027... but I think it might still be in mozilla-aurora
1473. # [14:32] <bkelly> it landed just before the branch on Monday
1474. # [14:32] <Optimize1> awesome :D
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1476. # [14:32] <bkelly> Tomcat|sheriffduty: whats the best way to get that backed out? add checkin-needed with the comment in the bug?
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1479. # [14:33] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bkelly: hm i guess i could backout with a=causing a serious race in hal with the pref service from Aurora - RyanVM what you think
1480. # [14:34] <RyanVM> just back it out without an a=
1481. # [14:34] <RyanVM> the commit hook will allow it through
1482. # [14:34] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok
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1484. # [14:35] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> will do it then - after doing the git revert for b2g-i
1485. # [14:35] <RyanVM> make sure the v1.4 status flag gets set back to affect and TM reset
1486. # [14:35] <RyanVM> affected*
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1488. # [14:36] <bkelly> thank you!
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1490. # [14:37] <froydnj> hm, trivial changes to a test cause already-fixed intermittents to reappear elsewhere!
1491. # [14:37] * froydnj loves mochitests
1492. # [14:37] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: i'll probably have other stuff to land on aurora - want me to just do it as a ride-along?
1493. # [14:38] <RyanVM> froydnj: <3
1494. # [14:38] <Ms2ger> Clever people: want to explain what "leal -1(%ebx), %eax" does?
1495. # [14:38] <froydnj> eax = ebx - 1
1496. # [14:38] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: yeah that would be super cool :)
1497. # [14:39] <Ms2ger> Well, that's not obtuse at all
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1500. # [14:39] <Ms2ger> And "leal (%esi,%eax,2), %eax"?
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1502. # [14:39] <froydnj> eax = esi + 2*eax
1503. # [14:39] <Ms2ger> Ooh, that actually looks like something this code is supposed to do
1504. # [14:39] <Ms2ger> Thanks
1505. # [14:40] <froydnj> np
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1510. # [14:42] <RyanVM> bobowen: ping
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1521. # [14:47] <jgraham> Hmm, why does moz-git-tools want to use the upstream branch as the base? That doesn't seem to work well for a workflow where you push your work in progress to a remote, either for the purposes of sharing code or simply for backup. Or am I misunderstanding something?
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1529. # [14:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d51a9df37b8 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 985858: Use format string "%s" to fix build warning in Snapshots.cpp. r=nbp
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1547. # [14:57] <bobowen> RyanVM: pong
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1549. # [14:57] <RyanVM> bobowen: I ni? you on bug 978042
1550. # [14:58] <RyanVM> wasn't clear what the landing order is on those patches
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1552. # [14:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> sorry guys, trees closed again
1553. # [14:58] <bobowen> RyanVM: Ah, sorry.
1554. # [14:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bug 985864 tracks the tree closure
1555. # [14:59] <bobowen> RyanVM: I'll add to the bug.
1556. # [14:59] <RyanVM> bobowen: thanks
1557. # [14:59] <RyanVM> bobowen: i'll queue it up for as soon as inbound reopens
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1575. # [15:04] <NeilAway> froydnj: the Intel code lea eax, [esi+eax*2] is much less unreadable :s
1576. # [15:05] <bobowen> RyanVM: thanks, bug updated.
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1578. # [15:05] <froydnj> NeilAway: indeed =/
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1581. # [15:06] <RyanVM> bobowen: ty :)
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1604. # [15:17] <Yoric> RyanVM: Do you know how TBPL Robot decides to add error reports to a bug?
1605. # [15:18] <RyanVM> "how"?
1606. # [15:18] <RyanVM> we tell it to
1607. # [15:18] <Yoric> I have dozens of error reports on bug 965527 that are clearly unrelated.
1608. # [15:18] <RyanVM> yell at whoever starred it
1609. # [15:18] <Yoric> Well, I haven't checked for dozenS, but at least a dozen.
1610. # [15:18] <RyanVM> their name is on the comment
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1612. # [15:18] <Yoric> Thanks.
1613. # [15:18] * RyanVM hopes he doesn't get yelled at by Yoric soon :P
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1615. # [15:18] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh
1616. # [15:19] * Tomcat|sheriffduty hides too
1617. # [15:19] <Yoric> KWierso|afk: Consider yourself yelled at (bug 965527 comment 81).
1618. # [15:19] <RyanVM> hah
1619. # [15:19] <RyanVM> yeah...that's bug 924622
1620. # [15:19] * glob spots RyanVM on comment 79
1621. # [15:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: ok reopen the trees
1622. # [15:19] <RyanVM> glob: that's a real one!
1623. # [15:19] <Yoric> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Consider yourself yelled at (bug 965527 comment 77).
1624. # [15:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> before git went done again
1625. # [15:19] <Yoric> And 76
1626. # [15:19] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Yoric: sorry :)
1627. # [15:19] <Yoric> And 75
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1630. # [15:20] <Yoric> RyanVM: I'm suspicious about comment 68, but I'll let it go without yelling :)
1631. # [15:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh
1632. # [15:21] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
1633. # [15:21] <RyanVM> Yoric: doesn't help that it shows up in other situations as well I guess
1634. # [15:21] <Yoric> RyanVM: Yeah, it's kind of a general message.
1635. # [15:21] <Yoric> "Something went wrong during shutdown"
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1637. # [15:21] * Yoric doesn't want to go above comment 68.
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1639. # [15:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ok guys mozilla-inbound - b2g-inbound are open again for business
1640. # [15:23] <RyanVM> Yoric: then I declare myself to be undefeated!
1641. # [15:23] <RyanVM> :D
1642. # [15:23] <RyanVM> \m/
1643. # [15:23] <Yoric> :)
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1647. # [15:26] <bz_away> Hrm
1648. # [15:26] <bz_away> If I made a hardware request in servicenow...
1649. # [15:26] <bz_away> shouldn't it be showing up in "my requests"?
1650. # [15:27] * bz_away wishes he had written down the request number or something
1651. # [15:27] <glob> bz_away, lol
1652. # [15:28] <bz_away> because I can't find that request anywhere
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1658. # [15:28] <jesup> bz_away: Did you go for 2-year-refresh or additional? Or perhaps you just dreamed submitting it
1659. # [15:28] <bz_away> additional
1660. # [15:28] <bz_away> And it's possible
1661. # [15:28] <bz_away> but I'd rather not submit twice... ;)
1662. # [15:29] <froydnj> how is the additional different from the 2-year-refresh?
1663. # [15:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5333bf0898ed - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 981963 Ignore following char message if its wParam is 0 r=jimm
1664. # [15:29] <bz_away> I mean, I can do it
1665. # [15:29] <jesup> froydnj: 2-year refresh you need to return the old one
1666. # [15:29] <bz_away> But I'm pretty darned sure I put the request in yesterday
1667. # [15:29] <froydnj> aha
1668. # [15:29] <@khuey> jesup: not really ;-)
1669. # [15:30] <bz_away> wtf
1670. # [15:30] <bz_away> I guess I can request again...
1671. # [15:30] <@khuey> IT stops asking for it back at some point
1672. # [15:30] * bz_away just wanted to add a comment to the request
1673. # [15:30] <jesup> khuey: aha, "need"
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1675. # [15:30] <@khuey> indeed
1676. # [15:31] <bz_away> oh
1677. # [15:31] <bz_away> man
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1679. # [15:31] <bz_away> it's in my cart
1680. # [15:31] <jesup> khuey: depends if they have a closet-full (or are waiting to sell them on ebay) perhaps.
1681. # [15:31] <bz_away> but apparently I did not "proceed to checkout"?
1682. # [15:31] <bz_away> wtf?
1683. # [15:31] <jesup> bz_away: I win the lottery!
1684. # [15:32] <jesup> should make it easy to add a comment then
1685. # [15:32] <bz_away> yeah
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1687. # [15:32] * bz_away didn't realize that after submitting the request you then had to check out!
1688. # [15:33] <bz_away> Amusingly enough, their delivery time estimate today is one day less than yesterday
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1691. # [15:35] <bz_away> ok, then
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1734. # [15:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/1b98262b8c0f - Wes Johnston - Bug 960146. r=kats, a=abillings
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1741. # [15:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/155bb3fae7d7 - Chris Lord - Bug 960146. r=kats, r=wesj, a=abillings
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1745. # [15:58] <bz> no more init() methods on hashtables, eh?
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1772. # [16:12] <bz> Do we have a template for intent to ship mails?
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1774. # [16:13] <@dbaron> bz, https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/ExposureGuidelines#Intent_to_Ship
1775. # [16:13] <bz> dbaron: thanks!
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1778. # [16:14] <@dbaron> anyway, g'night
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1846. # [16:52] <jryans> RyanVM|sheriffduty: can't remember right now... do i re-add checkin-needed after getting uplift approval on a patch? or are the sheriffs watching the approval flags directly?
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1849. # [16:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jryans: i query the approvals
1850. # [16:53] <jryans> okay, thanks
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1852. # [16:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> usually my advice is give it a day
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1854. # [16:53] <jryans> yeah, works for me!
1855. # [16:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> if no activity, go ahead and ping
1856. # [16:53] <froydnj> this try push is stark demonstration of how bad mochitest intermittents are on b2g
1857. # [16:53] * RyanVM|sheriffduty doesn't even need to look ot know that one :P
1858. # [16:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: i disabled some inputmethod tests on b2g today that should help with some of the more frequent ones
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1877. # [17:05] <philor> won't help his M3s, which are surprisingly bad
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1880. # [17:06] <philor> I had the feeling the b2g/android media/ storm had died down, but maybe I've just gotten used to it
1881. # [17:07] <philor> or maybe week-old-parent is a week old
1882. # [17:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: yeah, going with the altter
1883. # [17:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jwwang's been knocking the oranges out pretty effectively
1884. # [17:09] <froydnj> does seem to have fixed the orange, though
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1887. # [17:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d35f97a5b1fe - Dan Gohman - Bug 981894 - IonMonkey: Misc cleanups r=nbp
1888. # [17:10] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: looks like you didn't go far enough with inputmethod, since it's likely to be every single test in there which is affected by the webapps-update timer firing
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1891. # [17:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> we'll see
1892. # [17:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ehsan pointed out a lot of problems with those tests too
1893. # [17:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so I maintain hope that they can be improved
1894. # [17:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but not on our time
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1897. # [17:14] <philor> guess I should have tried looking at the other things, I stopped looking after seeing that they really don't call finish multiple times
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1915. # [17:19] <annevk> I was wondering. Is there a bug on exposing a search field on largish <select> elements?
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1919. # [17:20] <annevk> The current way search works in them is extremely annoying if I search for e.g. "Netherlands" and they named it "The Netherlands", you really want substring matching and it seems like it shouldn't be too hard to just provide a search field as the first option if there's more than twenty items or so...
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1971. # [17:46] <nalexander> timeless: #mobile
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2015. # [18:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> wtf? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=36439986&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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2023. # [18:09] <jesup> annevk: there's a danger there that complexifying the interface can have an impact on usability for the general case in order to provide a rarely-used option. I suspect it's also a bit of "if the list is that big, the website shouldn't make it a single <select>"
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2027. # [18:11] <annevk> jesup: countries or languages are often a single select
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2029. # [18:11] <annevk> jesup: and they're a pain because everyone does them differently
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2033. # [18:12] <annevk> jesup: e.g. for language I have to guess if it's Dutch or Nederlands, or Hollands
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2035. # [18:12] <annevk> jesup: country is The Netherlands, Netherlands, sometimes Holland, just kinda sucks
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2040. # [18:15] <jesup> annevk: Understood. And if the <select> is in another language, all bets are off (even with search). But I don't think search helps a lot here (and for country-selects, it only helps a lot with a very few countries - Netherlands, one or two others and countries that have changed name recently)
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2044. # [18:15] <annevk> yeah, maybe they just suck for me
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2046. # [18:16] <mcsmurf> maybe it can search for substring like it does currently and you could use F3 to "find again"...but then one would need to know about possibility
2047. # [18:16] <philor> evilpie: evil hazard
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2049. # [18:17] <mcsmurf> err, not like it does currently..
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2057. # [18:20] <jdm> gps: so I've added skip-if annotations to a bunch of tests in a chrome.ini file but they're still being run
2058. # [18:20] <jdm> halp
2059. # [18:20] <gps> ted: ^
2060. # [18:20] <jdm> (skip-if = true as well as skip-if = os == "linux")
2061. # [18:20] <@ted> jdm: a) how new is your tree?
2062. # [18:21] <jdm> at least, when I use mach mochitest-chrome dom/network/tests/
2063. # [18:21] <jdm> ted: from march 7
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2065. # [18:21] <@ted> jdm: okay, so your problem is that your tree doesn't have the "run tests from manifests" patch yet, so it's running whatever gets installed
2066. # [18:22] <jdm> grumble
2067. # [18:22] <jdm> so I need to rebase?
2068. # [18:22] <@ted> and the previous behavior was not to delete tests when installing new ones
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2070. # [18:22] <@ted> alternately you can do a top-level rebuild
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2073. # [18:22] <@ted> billm's patch landed in the past two days or so
2074. # [18:22] <jdm> thanks
2075. # [18:22] <@ted> np
2076. # [18:22] <@ted> rest assured things suck a little bit less now
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2078. # [18:24] <jdm> woohoo, not a single conflict
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2080. # [18:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bsmedberg: your fx-team push isn't looking good
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2082. # [18:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bsmedberg: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=36452378&tree=Fx-Team
2083. # [18:26] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM|sheriffduty: hrm ok, I think that's trivial to fix, just a sec
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2085. # [18:26] * @bsmedberg only wonders whether it will be equally as trivial to avoid breaking tbird
2086. # [18:26] <bz> Man
2087. # [18:26] <bz> reticulating splines takes so long...
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2089. # [18:27] <bz> 10s
2090. # [18:27] <bz> insane
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2092. # [18:27] <bz> Finished reading 2526 moz.build files in 2.27s
2093. # [18:27] <bz> Processed into 6918 build config descriptors in 4.16s
2094. # [18:27] <bz> Backend executed in 2.94s
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2104. # [18:29] <@ted> bz: hm, that sucks
2105. # [18:30] <@ted> bz: i think gps or glandium said that the gyp reading added a bunch of time
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2112. # [18:32] <bz> ted: :(
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2115. # [18:32] <bz> ted: every time I add a test file, 10s. :(
2116. # [18:33] <@ted> ick
2117. # [18:33] <@ted> wonder if we could preprocess the gyp files into moz.build files or something if that'd be faster
2118. # [18:33] <lsblakk> RyanVM|sheriffduty: can you help with the uplift in bug 963621 for a mobile dot release?
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2120. # [18:33] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sure thing
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2122. # [18:34] <froydnj> "No permission to use the keyboard API for http://gogleads.g.doubleclick.net" ?
2123. # [18:34] <Ms2ger> ted, we probably could
2124. # [18:35] <bz> froydnj: yeah, that thing is dumb
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2128. # [18:35] <bz> froydnj: it dumps that any time someone does navigator.mozKeyboard or something
2129. # [18:35] <bz> froydnj: e.g. if someone happens to enumerate all the props on navigator...
2130. # [18:36] <froydnj> bz: fabulous
2131. # [18:36] <@ted> yeah, i see that a lot in the console
2132. # [18:37] <bz> froydnj: we should take that dump() out, imo
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2139. # [18:40] <idwer> hey :) anyone in here who can co-inspect bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=950399 ?
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2161. # [18:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bsmedberg: should I backout for now or is a fix forthcoming?
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2163. # [18:49] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM|sheriffduty: coming!
2164. # [18:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bsmedberg: please don't star failures with "fix incoming" either
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2167. # [18:51] <blassey> smaug: are you still looking at bug 961869?
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2169. # [18:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> blassey: did you have any luck finding someone to help investigate the mochitest-bc slowdowns raised on Tuesday?
2170. # [18:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/11d170b90e98 - Tom Schuster - Bug 355430 - Fix rooting issue on CLOSED TREE
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2172. # [18:52] <blassey> RyanVM|sheriffduty: dougt said they were assigned out
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2176. # [18:53] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM|sheriffduty: pushed. Why not star, btw? I thought that starring when you were aware of problems was the recommended thing.
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2178. # [18:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bsmedberg: our normal MO is to star them with the cset that fixed them
2179. # [18:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> either the fix or the backout
2180. # [18:53] <@gavin> starring has turned into a "this has been dealt with" marker
2181. # [18:53] <gps> bz: 7s for me
2182. # [18:53] <@gavin> rather than an arbitrary "leave note about failure" feature
2183. # [18:54] <@smaug> blassey: bug 930793 was backed out
2184. # [18:54] <gps> bz: there is room to optimize it. but build system is under-staffed
2185. # [18:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> blassey: who do we try next then?
2186. # [18:54] <@smaug> blassey: because of that regression
2187. # [18:54] <@smaug> and b2g test frameworks being broken
2188. # [18:54] <blassey> smaug: ok, close the regression bug then?
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2191. # [18:55] <@smaug> blassey: donoe
2192. # [18:55] <@smaug> done even
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2194. # [18:56] <jesup> glandium: ping (unlikely, but with glandium you never know)
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2201. # [18:57] <blassey> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I was under the impression from dougt that were assigned
2202. # [18:57] <blassey> if not, khuey would seem like the best assignee to me
2203. # [18:57] <blassey> or maybe bent
2204. # [18:57] <blassey> for both
2205. # [18:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> blassey: still shows as assigned to nobody :(
2206. # [18:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> the other bug was assigned to mrbkap
2207. # [18:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> the crash bug
2208. # [18:58] <blassey> that's a good assignee too
2209. # [18:58] <jesup> bsmedberg: ping
2210. # [18:58] <@bsmedberg> jesup: pong
2211. # [18:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> blassey: yeah, the crash bug is moving forward
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2213. # [18:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> blassey: no assignee or activity on the mochitest-bc bug, though
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2217. # [18:59] <jesup> bsmedberg: I need the equivalent to __sync_synchronize for MSVC... Is it MemoryBarrier()? any caveats about using it or alternatives? Or whom else should I ask? Thanks
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2219. # [19:00] * @bsmedberg doesn't know what __sync_synchronize is, and if you want memory barriers you want waldo or froydnj I think
2220. # [19:00] <@bsmedberg> jesup: using mozilla::Atomic directly isn't an option?
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2222. # [19:01] <jesup> bsmedberg: nope, this is for upstream code
2223. # [19:01] <jesup> (I can, but that means maintaining a patch against it forever)
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2225. # [19:04] <froydnj> jesup: I think you do want MemoryBarrier, yes
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2236. # [19:07] <mkaply> bsmedberg: Since turning on a plugin is just a preference, rather than adding plugins to the whitelist, would it make sense to just have those vendors distribute an XPI that bundles their plugin and sets the default preference to enable themselves?
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2238. # [19:08] <mkaply> And what's to prevent a plugin provider from doing that anyway?
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2240. # [19:08] <philor> RyanVM|sheriffduty: can't believe it took me this long to realize that we already know exactly how to deal with "excessive timeouts in debug b-c, mostly in devtools tests but also tabview/sessionstore"
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2243. # [19:08] <philor> you'd think two separate episodes of multi-day tree closures on trunk plus aurora would stick with me better
2244. # [19:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> oompocalpyse them? :)
2245. # [19:09] <philor> yep
2246. # [19:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> rather depressing when that's the only real stick we've got...
2247. # [19:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> all these teams that should care about this that don't
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2249. # [19:10] <philor> if you're only going to have one stick, a flamethrower is a nice one to have
2250. # [19:10] <froydnj> ensures that nobody else has sticks to fight you with, at least
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2252. # [19:11] * RyanVM|sheriffduty wishes he'd taken some silvers home from his last job
2253. # [19:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> http://www.legionsafety.com/images/T/cpap150-xb_1.jpg
2254. # [19:12] * RyanVM|sheriffduty has totally worn stuff like that before in the course of his daily work
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2257. # [19:12] <froydnj> shiny!
2258. # [19:12] <tbsaunde> RyanVM|sheriffduty: what is that?
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2260. # [19:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> tbsaunde: aluminized flame retardant clothing
2261. # [19:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> head to toe
2262. # [19:12] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, a tin foil hat for your entire body?
2263. # [19:12] <tbsaunde> RyanVM|sheriffduty: wow
2264. # [19:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> working in the steel industry can be fun :)
2265. # [19:13] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, fewer intermittent failures, I hope :)
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2268. # [19:14] <froydnj> a lot more orange, depending on how you look at it
2269. # [19:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> depends on your definition of failure :P
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2275. # [19:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dougt: is your team looking at the mochitest-bc issues raised in the platform call on Tuesday?
2276. # [19:17] <dougt> no
2277. # [19:17] <Ms2ger> Let's disable
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2279. # [19:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: let's see, indefinitely tree closure vs. disabling large swathes of our test sutie
2280. # [19:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> tough choice
2281. # [19:17] <dougt> pretty sure that those bugs are being worked on
2282. # [19:18] <ekr> why not do both?
2283. # [19:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bug 983948 isn't assigned to anybody
2284. # [19:18] <Waldo> ekr++
2285. # [19:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> miker: is the only recent commenter in the bug
2286. # [19:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and he doesn't seem like a likely candidate for debugging GC issues?
2287. # [19:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I could probably add another 10 bugs to Ed's list from comment 79
2288. # [19:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dougt: doesn't seem very worked on from what I can see :\
2289. # [19:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> philor: honestly, I think closing is the better route
2290. # [19:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lest we get into the "what broke while all the tests were disabled" trap
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2293. # [19:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bug 984930 is a long-needed workaround, but doesn't fix the fundamental problem
2294. # [19:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and gps is spot on in his comments there
2295. # [19:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mochitest-bc reliability is awful and nobody is really owning it AFAICT
2296. # [19:22] <dougt> mccr8: is that your bug?
2297. # [19:22] <dougt> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=983948
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2299. # [19:22] <gps> gavin: you should talk to RyanVM|sheriffduty about mochitest-bc
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2301. # [19:23] <gps> gavin: let me rephrase. if you haven't talked to RyanVM|sheriffduty or anyone else about mochitest-bc, you may want to do that :)
2302. # [19:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gps: I mean, I'd love to see devtools extricated from the rest of the bc suite
2303. # [19:24] <@gavin> happy to
2304. # [19:24] <@gavin> why devtools specifically?
2305. # [19:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> because they seem to be the worst offenders for timeouts, domwindow creation, gc flakiness, etc
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2307. # [19:24] * RyanVM|sheriffduty should do a try run with them disabled to see what that does for the runtime of the suite
2308. # [19:25] <jesup> RyanVM++
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2310. # [19:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> my other question is if the platform call isn't getting the job done, where should I be raising hell?
2311. # [19:25] <jesup> firebot: rank ryanvm
2312. # [19:25] <firebot> ryanvm has 61 points of karma (rank 33).
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2315. # [19:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I've assumed that relevant parties are at least reading those notes
2316. # [19:26] <Ms2ger> Ha
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2318. # [19:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: I should just be able to remove the relevant manifest files from moz.build for taht test, right?
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2320. # [19:26] <Ms2ger> Yep
2321. # [19:27] <mccr8> dougt: I'm not sure of anything in particular that has changed for GC recently that would cause regressions like that. I can look at it a little.
2322. # [19:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: AFAIK, nobody's looking at comment 70 either wrt drawing performance
2323. # [19:28] <gps> there are longstanding issues with the mochitest suites. bad cleanup between tests, etc
2324. # [19:28] <gps> many tests have an implicit ordering dependency
2325. # [19:28] <mccr8> RyanVM|sheriffduty: okay, well, I don't really know what that is. ;)
2326. # [19:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gps: yeah, one only needs to look at the trail of tears on the chunking bug
2327. # [19:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> which has basically been the jmaher show
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2329. # [19:29] <gps> somewhere in my head i have a half-composed post titled "the failing war on orange"
2330. # [19:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> heh
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2336. # [19:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: ugh
2337. # [19:31] <Ms2ger> ?
2338. # [19:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> each test dir has its own moz.build pointing to its browser.ini
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2340. # [19:32] <Ms2ger> Of course
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2343. # [19:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> one at the root should would be nice :P
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2345. # [19:32] <Ms2ger> I don't guess you can just stop building the dirs altogether? :)
2346. # [19:32] * RyanVM|sheriffduty starts editing 19 moz.build files
2347. # [19:32] <gps> Ms2ger: we skip them intelligently for some tiers
2348. # [19:33] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: I have no idea what interdependencies that could run afoul of
2349. # [19:33] <gps> but there is still overhead for reading the moz.build and doing the I/O during config.status. fewer moz.build files is a good thing
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2352. # [19:33] <Ms2ger> gps, also, time needed for Ryan to disable all the tests :)
2353. # [19:33] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: well, at least I'll have this patch ready to go if needed :P
2354. # [19:33] <gps> well, I believe all tests are in manifests now. thanks ted!
2355. # [19:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but like I said, I'd rather just go the closure route
2356. # [19:34] <Ms2ger> Yay ted!
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2358. # [19:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> because that'd be way too much test coverage to lose while allowing people to still land
2359. # [19:34] <jmaher> hey, i am dusting off my browser-chrome chunking patches
2360. # [19:34] <gps> step 1) execute all test suites in random order every time
2361. # [19:35] <Ms2ger> Ha
2362. # [19:35] <gps> step 2) fix all the bustage
2363. # [19:35] <gps> step 3) goto #2
2364. # [19:35] <jmaher> gps: all the bustage, hmm
2365. # [19:35] <froydnj> gps: my eyes
2366. # [19:35] <Ms2ger> step 4) turns out the bustage isn't actually fixed, let the sheriffs just star it all
2367. # [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: dammit, they're not even consistent within browser/devtools
2368. # [19:35] <gps> every failure when executing in random order is a valid bug, arguably an orange. if we're lucky, an orange that hasn't resulted in a disabled test yet
2369. # [19:36] <froydnj> gps: roc wanted to/suggested doing something like that with an enhanced chaos mode
2370. # [19:36] <froydnj> tracking down all that bustage would be...time-consuming
2371. # [19:36] <gps> froydnj: i wept with joy when I read that post
2372. # [19:36] <gps> that effort would lead to much lower intermittent rate
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2374. # [19:36] <gps> s/would/should/
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2376. # [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: someone could un-fuck that now at least
2377. # [19:36] <froydnj> gps: did you see roc's try push with those patches and chaos mode enabled?
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2379. # [19:37] <froydnj> gps: I don't think there was a single green suite
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2381. # [19:37] <jmaher> gps: do you have any idea on the volume of failures? I would bet at least 200 tests would come out of it
2382. # [19:37] <froydnj> and that was without test ordering randomization
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2384. # [19:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: chaos is awesome
2385. # [19:37] * rail-brb is now known as rail
2386. # [19:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> would be more awesome with a way to replay them
2387. # [19:37] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, that's what rr is for :)
2388. # [19:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> which works on one? platform?
2389. # [19:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and isn't even a supported product anymore?
2390. # [19:37] <gps> chromium's test failures include a "context archive" that contains test ordering. allows you to replay
2391. # [19:37] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: http://abstrusegoose.com/249
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2393. # [19:38] <Ms2ger> That's interesting
2394. # [19:38] <Ms2ger> We could probably blobber that
2395. # [19:38] <gps> yup
2396. # [19:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> seriously, these moz.builds in devtools are a rats nest
2397. # [19:38] <gps> RyanVM|sheriffduty: fwiw, the devtools build system stuff never got reviewed by build peers IIRC
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2401. # [19:40] <froydnj> DIRS? not PARALLEL_DIRS? sadface already
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2409. # [19:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=a7fe587af6f7
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2413. # [19:44] <froydnj> ./popcorn
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2416. # [19:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: I await seeing what other bustage arises from doing this
2417. # [19:45] * RyanVM|sheriffduty will be surprised if these actually run green
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2420. # [19:45] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, I'm always surprised if b-c runs green
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2438. # [19:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gps: froydnj: Ms2ger: honestly, I really am curious to see what impact this has
2439. # [19:51] <Ms2ger> Me too :)
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2441. # [19:52] <@smaug> hmm, abort: data/accessible/src/windows/msaa/TextLeafAccessibleWrap.cpp.i@63eca0798891: unknown parent!
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2446. # [19:53] <hub> smaug: I'd grab surkov to talk about that :-)
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2449. # [19:53] <tbsaunde> smaug: aiui (but I'm not a hg exprt) that's hg for "we're sorry but we ate shit and died, please run hg verify and then nuke the repository and start over"
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2454. # [19:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yeah, that's not an a11y issue
2455. # [19:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> that's hg bustage
2456. # [19:57] <@smaug> tbsaunde: ok, so rm -Rf beta/
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2458. # [19:57] <tbsaunde> smaug: I think so :"(
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2460. # [19:58] <@ted> you can usually recover a repo like that
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2463. # [19:58] <@ted> find the last good revision, clone -r <that rev> to a new dir
2464. # [19:58] <@ted> update the new dir
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2466. # [19:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I've had good luck stripping and re-pulling too
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2497. # [20:13] <rnewman> RyanVM|sheriffduty: can I land some Android-Java-only changes on fx-team? they're tracking 29.
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2500. # [20:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> rnewman: go for it
2501. # [20:14] <rnewman> ta
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2503. # [20:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> fyi, cleaning up inbound and will then reopen
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2510. # [20:20] <evilpie> I think we should be good again, sorry guys
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2518. # [20:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> evilpie: we are
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2524. # [20:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/284661ffd813 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 981030 - Create platform specific mozharness files for storing test harness options, r=aki
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2554. # [20:51] <idwer_> how do you add a version branch to a bugzilla entry? I don't 'own' the bug report
2555. # [20:51] * idwer_ is now known as idwer
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2557. # [20:51] <@smaug> our .ini syntax is so bizarre
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2560. # [20:52] <@smaug> idwer: tracking flags on the right
2561. # [20:52] * swook is now known as swook`
2562. # [20:52] <@smaug> idwer: the status-foo part
2563. # [20:53] <idwer> smaug: so tracking-firefox28: *and* status-firefox28:
2564. # [20:54] <idwer> and blocking-fx?
2565. # [20:54] <@smaug> idwer: well, if you just want to tell which version is affected, use status-*
2566. # [20:54] <idwer> okay
2567. # [20:54] <@smaug> idwer: sounds like a regression in ff28 ?
2568. # [20:55] <@smaug> idwer: if so, keyword: regression, regressionwindow-wanted
2569. # [20:55] <idwer> smaug: I can try a nightly, but the bug (950399) pops up in ff26, ff27 and ff28
2570. # [20:55] <@smaug> keyword is near the top
2571. # [20:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lmao, mochitest-bc on osx 10.8 opt finished in 21min with devtools skipped
2572. # [20:55] <@smaug> ídw
2573. # [20:55] <@smaug> er
2574. # [20:55] <@smaug> idwer: ah, so nothing recent
2575. # [20:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger, froydnj, gps ^
2576. # [20:56] <idwer> smaug: 't was fine in ff25
2577. # [20:56] <@smaug> idwer: ok, then put regression, regressionwindow-wanted to the keywords field
2578. # [20:56] <@smaug> idwer: which bug is this about ?
2579. # [20:57] <idwer> 950399
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2584. # [20:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nice, 48->26min on 10.6
2585. # [20:58] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, compared to what, 7 hours? :)
2586. # [20:58] <idwer> smaug: keyword field is where? on the upper left?
2587. # [20:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: for 10.8, 36 on m-c tip
2588. # [20:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> (this is opt, mind you)
2589. # [20:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> we'll see what the debug build do
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2592. # [20:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ooo, here go the Windows debug runs
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2594. # [20:59] <@smaug> idwer: top-left
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2596. # [21:00] <@smaug> and btw, I haven't noticed that bug
2597. # [21:00] <gps> RyanVM|sheriffduty: holy crap. at the same time, well done by the devtools people on writing lots of tests?
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2599. # [21:00] <@smaug> idwer: do you have any addons?
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2601. # [21:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gps: that's one angle
2602. # [21:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> let's see
2603. # [21:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Before - TinderboxPrint: mochitest-browser-chrome: 64093/0/57
2604. # [21:01] <idwer> smaug: I don't see it, it points me to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/describekeywords.cgi
2605. # [21:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> After - TinderboxPrint: mochitest-browser-chrome: 29814/0/52
2606. # [21:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gps: so yeah, decent correlation there
2607. # [21:01] <idwer> smaug: yes, but it happens with a fresh profile as well
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2609. # [21:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gps: of course, debug is where I'm more interested to see the results
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2611. # [21:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> since opt has never been as bad
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2615. # [21:02] <@smaug> idwer: hmm, is that field enabled only if one has some more privileges
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2618. # [21:03] <@smaug> idwer: I added it there
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2622. # [21:03] <idwer> Mid-air collision detected!
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2624. # [21:03] <idwer> meh
2625. # [21:03] <idwer> oay
2626. # [21:03] <idwer> okay
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2628. # [21:04] <KWierso> RyanVM|sheriffduty: and 10.8 has 58 more tests than 10.6
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2633. # [21:04] <zzzzz> idwer: are you logged into Bugzilla ?
2634. # [21:05] <zzzzz> oh, nm
2635. # [21:05] <Ms2ger> zzzzz, I don't think you have mid-air collide without being logged in...
2636. # [21:05] <zzzzz> yeah, just realized how dumb that question was :(
2637. # [21:05] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, mm, three runs finished
2638. # [21:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> 62->31
2639. # [21:06] <KWierso> RyanVM|sheriffduty: and linux64 opt halved the time from ~60 to ~30 minutes
2640. # [21:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> halved tests too
2641. # [21:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so opt so far is scaling nicely
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2643. # [21:06] <zzzzz> someone pour a Monster drink into the build machines ?
2644. # [21:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> zzzzz: no, we just cut their work in half :P
2645. # [21:07] <KWierso> zzzzz: nah, ryan just disabled the devtools tests
2646. # [21:07] <KWierso> for science
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2648. # [21:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> zzzzz: on Try, don't go screaming on Mozillazine
2649. # [21:07] <zzzzz> I see
2650. # [21:07] <zzzzz> LOL
2651. # [21:07] * nthomas|away is now known as nthomas
2652. # [21:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> they've got enough to troll about there as it is
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2654. # [21:07] * Ms2ger posts that last line on mozillazine
2655. # [21:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> as if they don't already know it
2656. # [21:08] <zzzzz> I was gonna say you turned off tests on the module that's noted for leaks and running library's beyond limits
2657. # [21:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> zzzzz: shockingly it does that in automation too
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2659. # [21:08] <zzzzz> no really shocking
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2661. # [21:09] * RyanVM|sheriffduty is quite enjoying this green bc trend on this push
2662. # [21:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> damn, I might be reconsidering this after all!
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2664. # [21:09] * Ms2ger extrapolates
2665. # [21:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lsblakk: all green on Android on m-r
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2668. # [21:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lsblakk: enjoy
2669. # [21:10] <KWierso> so we can have mochitest-browser-chrome and then mochitest-broken-shit
2670. # [21:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> close, mochitest-dt!
2671. # [21:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bug 984930 ;)
2672. # [21:11] <KWierso> but you repeat yourself
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2679. # [21:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b10649cebf55 - Botond Ballo - Bug 980493 - Update references to mScrollOffset and mZoom in APZC_LOG calls. r=kats
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2681. # [21:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> damn you sessionstore!
2682. # [21:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ruining my green :(
2683. # [21:16] * rbarnes pops in with his daily frustration
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2686. # [21:16] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, disable that too? :)
2687. # [21:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lol
2688. # [21:17] <rbarnes> linking error <https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4636018> for this class <https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4636005> with this CPP file <https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4636008>
2689. # [21:17] <rbarnes> thoughts?
2690. # [21:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> honestly, tabview would be next on the list purely due to its unowned status
2691. # [21:17] <idwer> smaug: which nightly would you recommend? one from 29.0b1-candidates/ ?
2692. # [21:18] <Ms2ger> 29? Sounds ancient
2693. # [21:18] <Ms2ger> rbarnes, are you building the cpp?
2694. # [21:19] <mcsmurf> rbarnes: is this trunk?
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2696. # [21:19] <ekr> RyanVM|sheriffduty: potential bustage: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4636031
2697. # [21:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> thanks ekr-bot
2698. # [21:19] <Ms2ger> Good evening, bearer of bad news
2699. # [21:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> roc: ^
2700. # [21:19] <rbarnes> ms2ger: i think so. here's the relevant moz.build https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4636036 not sure how else to tell
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2702. # [21:20] <@smaug> idwer: from the time it regressed
2703. # [21:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ugh, roc's not here
2704. # [21:20] <Ms2ger> Looks like it
2705. # [21:20] <@smaug> idwer: some nightly which has version number 26
2706. # [21:20] <rbarnes> mcsmurf: this is off of mozilla-central
2707. # [21:20] <@smaug> idwer: given that the regression is from 25->26
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2710. # [21:21] <mcsmurf> rbarnes: was just wondering since I cannot find that code on mozilla-central
2711. # [21:21] <jesup> I'm having problems doing ASAN builds on Linux. I'm setup exactly according to the wiki (and used to work with the same config), but it's failing building the js shell. Anyone have ideas?
2712. # [21:21] <mcsmurf> or it's very recent code
2713. # [21:21] <rbarnes> mcsmurf: it's not in mozilla-central, it's WIP stuff i'm working on
2714. # [21:21] <mcsmurf> rbarnes: ooh ok
2715. # [21:21] <mcsmurf> now I get it..
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2717. # [21:22] <jesup> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4636046 is the ASAN error - can't find teh asan poison functions when linking
2718. # [21:22] <jesup> the LD flags are set correctly
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2721. # [21:23] <@smaug> rbarnes: you don't implement ~RsaHashedKeyAlgorithm();
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2725. # [21:23] <rbarnes> smaug: good point. had not registered because i was looking for virtuals. let's see if that helps...
2726. # [21:24] <idwer> smaug: nope, 26.0.0.5084 logs me out
2727. # [21:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sigh, didn't roc already get backed out on this once before?
2728. # [21:24] <idwer> build id is 20131202205747
2729. # [21:24] <rbarnes> (fwiw, i'm aware there are lots of issues with this code :) just trying to fix the linking issue for now )
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2731. # [21:25] <@smaug> idwer: so, you test various builds between end of 25 nightlies and 27 nightlies
2732. # [21:25] <@smaug> idwer: the idea is to find first build which shows the issues
2733. # [21:26] <rbarnes> smaug: thanks. that appears to have been the problem. it was virtual in a parent class.
2734. # [21:26] <idwer> smaug: bisecting is not possible?
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2736. # [21:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gavin: my vote is definitely trending towards mochitest-dt than I can then hide by default on tbpl until it meets visibility standards
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2741. # [21:29] <@smaug> idwer: (there is also a script for regression window finding) it is bisecting when you download some build which shows the error, then some other build doesn't have it, then start searching from between them
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2743. # [21:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: 10.8 debug: 101min -> 46min
2744. # [21:30] <efaust> anyone got any tricks for running just a single jetpack test file?
2745. # [21:31] <Ms2ger> Nice
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2747. # [21:31] <Yoric> efaust: Gijs_away does
2748. # [21:31] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, shouldn't have mentioned hide-by-default :)
2749. # [21:31] <Yoric> efaust: gozala does too, I assume.
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2751. # [21:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: meh, I can always just hide mochitest-bc now for not meeting visibility standards
2752. # [21:31] <Yoric> But I have had proof that Gijs_away does :)
2753. # [21:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it's certainly justified
2754. # [21:32] <Ms2ger> I would not be particularly against
2755. # [21:32] <efaust> gozala, Gijs_away: got any tips?
2756. # [21:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> just trying to minimize the pain
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2768. # [21:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9f011ba0f5e - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 716f942b5798, 48edbd324d0f, 3e6446f6d0e6 (bug 918189) for bustage.
2769. # [21:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e640765c3f4 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 8 changesets (bug 917755) for bustage making inbound a CLOSED TREE.
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2779. # [21:39] <@smaug> what, I can't see any mochitests locally
2780. # [21:39] <@smaug> have we changed something in the testing setup recenty
2781. # [21:39] <Waldo> jesup: this is building a JS shell as part of a build of Mozilla?
2782. # [21:39] <jesup> yes. ./mach build
2783. # [21:40] <idwer> smaug: like the build found here? it's 28.0a1
2784. # [21:40] <idwer> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2013/11/2013-11-15-03-02-03-mozilla-central/
2785. # [21:40] <jesup> I verified the mozconfig against the wiki page, right SVN version, clobbered, etc
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2789. # [21:41] <Waldo> jesup: are you using a home-built clang, system OS X one, what?
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2791. # [21:41] * Waldo has a working setup on his system, tries to conjure up memories of what he did to get it working
2792. # [21:41] <jesup> I was doing some lsan tests before this problem started; perhaps there's something left over in the source dirs....? hg diff shows nothing; fresh pull/update
2793. # [21:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> woah
2794. # [21:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: ASAN: 133 -> 53
2795. # [21:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jeebus
2796. # [21:42] * RyanVM|sheriffduty votes for mochitest-dt yesterday
2797. # [21:42] <jesup> Linux - local SVN pull and build; haven't touched that in a while IIRC. Right SVN version
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2799. # [21:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> linux64 debug: 144 -> 62min
2800. # [21:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> wowza
2801. # [21:42] <jesup> yeah, October
2802. # [21:42] <Waldo> jesup: do you have the compiler-rt bit mentioned on http://clang.llvm.org/get_started.html ? I think that's what I was missing when I had missing-symbol issues when I first tried to asanify my build
2803. # [21:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> 130->59 on osx 10.6 debug
2804. # [21:43] <Waldo> or clang-plugin it, maybe
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2806. # [21:43] <@smaug> idwer: no
2807. # [21:43] <@smaug> idwer: you want older
2808. # [21:44] <jesup> Waldo: yes, same date as the compiler
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2810. # [21:44] <@smaug> idwer: I added a comment to the bug, it should tell roughly the dates
2811. # [21:44] <Waldo> jesup: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4636113 is the mozconfig I use, fwiw -- no ASAN there, but I'm pretty sure the clang-plugin bit was complaining about missing symbols identically to what you say
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2813. # [21:45] <@smaug> what is manifestFile=tests.json in the mochitest
2814. # [21:45] <jesup> --enable-clang-plugin?
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2817. # [21:45] <@smaug> that seems to break mochitests locally
2818. # [21:45] <jesup> that's not on the wiki page
2819. # [21:45] <Waldo> jesup: no, I'm doing a different thing -- that still needs clang stuffs to work
2820. # [21:46] <Waldo> jesup: I am ass-u-me-ing the setup is similar
2821. # [21:46] <Waldo> ;-)
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2823. # [21:46] <jesup> Waldo: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4636206
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2825. # [21:47] <jesup> I added -v to the LDFLAGS to see the linker opts
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2827. # [21:48] <Waldo> yeah, I suspect a setup that works for my mozconfig, would probably work for yours as well
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2829. # [21:48] <@smaug> jmaher: you might know, what is manifestFile=tests.json in the mochitest url ?
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2831. # [21:48] <jmaher> smaug: tests.json is the list of tests we run
2832. # [21:49] <gregglind> gps, are there good ways of testing FHR providers, other than using the 'real' thing you want to watch?
2833. # [21:49] <@smaug> jmaher: I can't see any tests if that is in the url
2834. # [21:49] <jmaher> sort of a hack- we parse the ini manifests, filter them out, then send in the tests.json to the javascript in browser harness
2835. # [21:49] <gregglind> (vague question, I realize)
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2837. # [21:49] <@smaug> removing manifestFile=tests.json make mochitest to work again
2838. # [21:49] <jmaher> smaug: ?
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2841. # [21:49] <jmaher> no tests run?
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2844. # [21:49] <@smaug> jmaher: mochitest doesn't show any tests to run
2845. # [21:50] <jmaher> smaug: is this with 'mach mochitest-plain'?
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2847. # [21:50] <jmaher> smaug: fyi we have been changing things recently including this week making the test harness actually parse manifests and filter
2848. # [21:50] <@smaug> no, not with mach
2849. # [21:50] <@smaug> ahaa, it just hides all the tests
2850. # [21:51] <@smaug> if I click "run tests", it start running them all
2851. # [21:51] <jmaher> oh
2852. # [21:51] <@smaug> surprising
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2854. # [21:51] <@smaug> since I want to run only one test
2855. # [21:51] <jmaher> autorun=1 should be in the url as well
2856. # [21:51] <@smaug> no
2857. # [21:51] <jesup> mccr8: ping
2858. # [21:51] <@smaug> I don't use autorun
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2860. # [21:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: YES - linux32 debug : 175 -> 71
2861. # [21:52] <jmaher> smaug: that might have been accidentally changed or fixed- running a test standalone wasn't using the full harness (didn't need autorun, etc.) but maybe it uses the full harness
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2875. # [21:57] <jesup> Waldo: --enable-clang-plugin fails fast for me (ASTConsumer.h not found)
2876. # [21:58] <Waldo> jesup: yeah, something's not right about your clang setup
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2883. # [22:00] <Waldo> jesup: you're using a clang that's been |make install|'d into a prefixdir, right? and not just clang out of a build directory?
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2888. # [22:01] <mccr8> jesup: pong
2889. # [22:02] <jesup> Waldo: No, a build directory
2890. # [22:02] <Waldo> jesup: that's your issue
2891. # [22:02] <jesup> That's how I've used it since the start
2892. # [22:03] <Waldo> jesup: I use https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4636118 to update/build clang these days (after doing the svn co's in the clang.llvm.org URL)
2893. # [22:03] <Waldo> jesup: yeah, it works fine if you want just an executable
2894. # [22:03] <Waldo> jesup: but you also want libraries and stuff to link against
2895. # [22:03] <Waldo> jesup: and the directory layout isn't similar enough between prefixdir and build dir
2896. # [22:03] * Waldo learned this the hard way, too :-)
2897. # [22:03] <jesup> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Building_Firefox_with_Address_Sanitizer says nothing about doing make install on it
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2899. # [22:04] <Waldo> jesup: could be old and/or lying
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2903. # [22:04] * Waldo didn't use that doc to set up his thing for clang-plugin usage, fwiw
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2908. # [22:06] <jesup> It also doesn't mention using clang-plugin
2909. # [22:06] <Waldo> sure, because it's not talking about the clang-plugin stuff :-)
2910. # [22:06] <Waldo> enabling clang-plugin, and building with asan, require the same basic setup
2911. # [22:07] <Waldo> but they are different things being done, for different reasons, and selecting one does not require selecting the other
2912. # [22:07] <gps> gregglind: it depends on the provider
2913. # [22:09] <jesup> Waldo: so, back to the question: what's wrong with building generic ASAN on Linux? What changed?
2914. # [22:09] <Waldo> jesup: were you ever successful doing this? I would think you never could have been, using a non-installed clang build
2915. # [22:10] <Waldo> jesup: I'm not aware of anything that's changed
2916. # [22:10] <jesup> I've been doing it for like a year
2917. # [22:10] <Waldo> huh
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2919. # [22:10] * Waldo has been doing clang-plugin for awhile, but certainly less than a year, and he hit missing symbol stuffs right off the bat
2920. # [22:10] <jesup> and the clang version I have was built in October and I've been using it since then
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2922. # [22:10] <bz> Which module is the "@mozilla.org/memory-reporter-manager;1" contract in?
2923. # [22:10] <Waldo> ...maybe I set that up after October? not sure about timing
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2927. # [22:11] <jesup> The LDFLAGS bit is for the symbols probably. But seems not to be working for the js shell link
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2929. # [22:11] * bz can't find it
2930. # [22:11] <Waldo> almost certainly set it up after October
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2933. # [22:11] <nthomas> smaug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=984838 is likely to be the 100% cpu I had yesterday
2934. # [22:11] <Waldo> update-clang.sh has a Jan 5 timestamp on it, and I think I only introduced that around the time I set up clang-plugin building for myself
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2936. # [22:12] <jesup> was there a switch to gold by default recently?
2937. # [22:12] <froydnj> no
2938. # [22:13] <froydnj> at least...I don't think so
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2940. # [22:13] <@smaug> nthomas: hopefully someone using yammer reports that issue to them
2941. # [22:13] <jesup> gps: ^
2942. # [22:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: for the various crt heap corruption oranges, do we have a bug tracking finding an underlying cause somewhere? Seems like otherwise we're just going to keep hitting them, filing them, and WFMing them after a few months go by
2943. # [22:13] <nthomas> smaug: hmm, maybe not, it's persisting after closing the tab
2944. # [22:13] <nthomas> for 20-30 seconds anyway
2945. # [22:14] <idwer> smaug: hmm, I can reproduce with 25.0a1 20130805030205
2946. # [22:14] * bz wonders whether mxr is lying to him or whether he's just being blind
2947. # [22:14] <Waldo> bz: or MXR is out of date?
2948. # [22:14] <mccr8> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I'm inclined to blame cosmic rays corrupting memory. :)
2949. # [22:14] <tbsaunde> froydnj: I don't think it was recent, but I seem to remember a patch to force using gold if available unless you explicitly opt out
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2958. # [22:16] <bz> Waldo: for memory reporter manager? Seems unlikely
2959. # [22:16] <idwer> no wait, I'll take that back
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2961. # [22:17] <@smaug> nthomas: any chance for a profile?
2962. # [22:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: lol, funny
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2965. # [22:17] <nthomas> smaug: is there a doc for that ?
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2968. # [22:18] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: mccr8: no, you should blame vacuum pockets: http://www.sciforums.com/vacuum-pockets-and-safety-nazis-t-41446.html
2969. # [22:18] <tbsaunde> froydnj: yeah, look at $(objdir)/build/unix/gold/ld
2970. # [22:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: honestly, I'm not feeling overly inclined to waste time filing them then
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2972. # [22:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> no point if we're calling them unactionable and WFM after a couple months
2973. # [22:19] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: *blink* those bc debug times. such speed
2974. # [22:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> :)
2975. # [22:19] <@smaug> nthomas: https://github.com/bgirard/Gecko-Profiler-Addon/raw/master/geckoprofiler.xpi
2976. # [22:19] <mccr8> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah I agree. ASAN bugs maybe can have enough useful info, but these weirdo crashes that just happen once aren't worth filing.
2977. # [22:19] <Ms2ger> I'd still split them in three
2978. # [22:19] <@smaug> nthomas: but atm not too good documentation
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2980. # [22:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: on debug anyway
2981. # [22:19] <@smaug> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Performance/Profiling_with_the_Built-in_Profiler
2982. # [22:20] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> less so on opt (can't do much better than 20min we're already getting on some platforms)
2983. # [22:20] <@smaug> that is mostly for b2g
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2987. # [22:22] <gps> jesup: we've been recommending gold for ages. i don't believe there were any automation changes recently
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2994. # [22:25] <nthomas> smaug: sorry, I don't have time to do a build for this
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2997. # [22:26] <KWierso> bz: ponderosa
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2999. # [22:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: opening shortly
3000. # [22:26] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: excellent
3001. # [22:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> as in, now
3002. # [22:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> GOGOGOGOGOGO
3003. # [22:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> well
3004. # [22:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> REBASEREBASEREBASEREBASEREBASEREBASEREBASE
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3009. # [22:28] <Gijs_away> efaust: cfx testpkgs --filter somethingthatonlymatchesyourtest
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3012. # [22:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dfba3a2480bc - George Wright - [PATCH 1/6] Bug 985217 - Update Skia to r13827 r=upstream
3013. # [22:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e6a116d382ae - George Wright - [PATCH 6/6] Bug 985217 - Ensure that our GLContext is current and working at GrGLInterface creation time as Skia now determines extensions at creation time r=snorp
3014. # [22:29] <Ms2ger> Gijs, why not mach?
3015. # [22:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46e992a65343 - George Wright - [PATCH 5/6] Bug 985217 - Stub out CreateTypeface* for Mac r=snorp
3016. # [22:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c74cf8975d5 - George Wright - [PATCH 4/6] Bug 985217 - Remove client side array functions as Skia no longer uses/wants them, and set the functions differently following refactoring in GrGLInterface
3017. # [22:29] <firebot> r=snorp
3018. # [22:29] <Gijs> Ms2ger: because it doesn't support that argument for jetpack tests?
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3020. # [22:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7223dac2c37c - George Wright - [PATCH 3/6] Bug 985217 - Minor changes to gfx/2d for API changes in Skia r=snorp
3021. # [22:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1176480f8de - George Wright - [PATCH 2/6] Bug 985217 - Enable three legacy APIs in the new Skia r=snorp
3022. # [22:29] <Gijs> at least, back when I had to use this a couple of months ago there was a bug about it but it didn't work.
3023. # [22:30] <Ms2ger> Gijs, fix it!
3024. # [22:30] <Gijs> don't have time right now, plus it was assigned but stalled, from what I could tell
3025. # [22:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/266a7c5085ce - Bill McCloskey - Bug 924260 -[e10s] Fix assertion on window close (r=felipe)
3026. # [22:30] <Gijs> maybe by now it works, who knows
3027. # [22:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/817ccd4562d0 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 985731 - [e10s] Disable beacon tests (r=ted)
3028. # [22:30] <idwer> bah.. I want my SSD back
3029. # [22:30] <efaust> Gijs: OK, and how (where) is cfx invoked?
3030. # [22:31] <efaust> Gijs: also, is there an easy way to get the spawned FF instance to run in a debugger?
3031. # [22:31] <Gijs> efaust: cd $TOPSRCDIR/addon-sdk/source/
3032. # [22:31] <Gijs> bin/cfx ...
3033. # [22:31] * efaust nods
3034. # [22:31] <Gijs> efaust: as far as I know, no, for jetpack tests.
3035. # [22:31] <Gijs> for mochitest-browser, yes, --jsdebugger works
3036. # [22:31] <Gijs> there's even --break-on-failure
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3039. # [22:31] <Gijs> or debug-on-failure or whatever it's called
3040. # [22:31] * efaust makes record scratch abrupt stop noise
3041. # [22:32] <efaust> Gijs: that's for the JS. I just want firefox to run in a debugger. My problem is in C++
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3044. # [22:32] <efaust> I guess I will try the obvious thing before I bother anyone further :P
3045. # [22:32] <@smaug> nthomas: you don't need a special build
3046. # [22:33] <@smaug> nthomas: just the addon
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3049. # [22:33] <@smaug> nthomas: nightly + addon should be fine
3050. # [22:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/04ea38d3515f - David Keeler - bug 985201 - rename insanity::pkix to mozilla::pkix r=cviecco r=briansmith
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3053. # [22:34] <nthomas> smaug: then either I missed the right bit in the docs, or they don't apply to desktop well. The builtin profiler didn't give me anything, can't see how you use the xpi
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3062. # [22:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30e6959192db - Jeff Walden - Bug 985687 - Remove vestigial tinyid/shortid references, as well as the field in JSPropertySpec. Followup to bug 975069. r=luke
3063. # [22:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/98e17f725ba2 - Jeff Walden - Bug 985695 - Rename JSContext::getLazyType to getSingletonType, because that's the only sense in which it's used. r=terrence
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3065. # [22:36] <@smaug> nthomas: you should see an icon somewhere in the UI
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3069. # [22:37] <mmc> anyone else getting locking errors when pushing to try?
3070. # [22:37] <@smaug> mmc: at least it is slow
3071. # [22:37] <mmc> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/wMxaSz78
3072. # [22:38] <nthomas> smaug: ah, I see. What time frame are you interested in ? Page open/after closed/something else ?
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3074. # [22:38] <@smaug> nthomas: the time when you see lots of cpu usage
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3076. # [22:39] <nthomas> k
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3079. # [22:40] <@smaug> nthomas: so after high cpu usage, press analyze and then share
3080. # [22:40] <nthomas> yup, just doing that in a new profile
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3083. # [22:42] <Gijs> efaust: you have a jetpack problem in C++ ? :|
3084. # [22:43] <Gijs> my condolences. :(
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3087. # [22:43] <efaust> Gijs: jetpack only failure in this patch I'm working on. Is it really that painful to work with? :/
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3095. # [22:45] <efaust> Gijs: also, |cfx testpkg --filter test-simple-prefs| helpfully yields "Bootstrap error: syntax error"
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3103. # [22:46] <@roc> argh
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3105. # [22:46] <Gijs> efaust: yeah... I'm at the end of my knowledge, I don't actually work on jetpack. Maybe try #jetpack ? :)
3106. # [22:47] <jesup> glandium: ping when you're available
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3109. # [22:49] <efaust> Gijs: yeah, that's probably wise. Thanks anyway :)
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3111. # [22:50] <idwer> smaug: I found the build, I think
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3113. # [22:50] <idwer> well
3114. # [22:50] <idwer> with some bisection
3115. # [22:51] <idwer> 20130814030204 ... 20130814141812
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3121. # [22:53] <@smaug> idwer: about:buildconfig should tell you the revisions
3122. # [22:54] <idwer> y
3123. # [22:54] <@smaug> could you perhaps tell those
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3125. # [22:54] <@smaug> idwer: the "build from"
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3128. # [22:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7cc3196d216 - Terrence Cole - Bug 986147 - Loosen assertions to allow IsAboutToBeFinalized to be used during MinorGC; r=sfink
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3135. # [22:58] <idwer> smaug: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3c61cc01a3b1 http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a8daa428ccbc
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3139. # [23:00] <@smaug> idwer: so, regression range would be http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?fromchange=3c61cc01a3b1&tochange=a8daa428ccbc
3140. # [23:00] <@smaug> want to comment on the bug and give the link there
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3145. # [23:02] <@smaug> idwer: I don't see anything obvious in that range
3146. # [23:02] <@smaug> maybe Bug 892488?
3147. # [23:02] <@smaug> oh, wait, that was then backed out
3148. # [23:03] <idwer> 903212?
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3151. # [23:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bab0bc658d79 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 986139 - Purge caches when preserving PJS JIT code. (r=terrence)
3152. # [23:04] <glandium> jesup: pong
3153. # [23:05] <@smaug> idwer: in theory, somehow... but unlikely
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3155. # [23:05] <@smaug> I wish there was a reliable way to reproduce
3156. # [23:05] <nthomas> bah 'Error 0 occurred uploading your file.'
3157. # [23:06] <jesup> glandium: having problems with clang on Linux - fails with undefed symbols for poisoning linking the js shell. Setup is per the wiki page; unchanged since October. Any ideas?
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3160. # [23:06] <jesup> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4636046 mozconfig: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4636206
3161. # [23:07] <jesup> right clang SVN version, etc
3162. # [23:07] <nthomas> smaug: Share is failing, is 'Save to Local File' any good ?
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3164. # [23:08] <glandium> jesup: are you doing an asan build on purpose?
3165. # [23:08] <jesup> yes
3166. # [23:08] <@smaug> nthomas: dunno
3167. # [23:08] <@smaug> I have no idea how to load that thing
3168. # [23:08] <@smaug> BenWa|email: ^
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3170. # [23:08] <jesup> I use ASAN regularly before landing patches, especially larger ones
3171. # [23:08] <jesup> Everyone should ;-)
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3173. # [23:09] <glandium> jesup: looks like -fsanitizer=address is not doing its job of adding the asan lib
3174. # [23:09] <glandium> jesup: ask decoder (iirc)
3175. # [23:10] <idwer> smaug: did you spot any checkins that could have fixed a race condition?
3176. # [23:10] <jesup> decoder: ^
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3179. # [23:11] <jesup> glandium: thanks
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3181. # [23:12] <jesup> afk for a bit
3182. # [23:13] <@smaug> idwer: I don't see anything interesting there, unfortunately
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3193. # [23:16] <idwer> smaug: going from build http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3c61cc01a3b1 to http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a8daa428ccbc, the first time I start that last build the session cookie is there
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3196. # [23:17] <idwer> (Closing ff)
3197. # [23:17] <idwer> and after restarting the session is indeed semi-trashed
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3202. # [23:18] <@smaug> idwer: this is with facebook?
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3204. # [23:19] <idwer> smaug: with gmail
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3207. # [23:20] <@smaug> idwer: I don't see issues.
3208. # [23:21] <@smaug> just tested nightly with a new profile
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3211. # [23:21] <idwer> which build exactly?
3212. # [23:22] <idwer> this http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2014-03-20-11-54-22-oak/ ?
3213. # [23:22] <@smaug> idwer: apparently a bit old, 2014-03-10
3214. # [23:22] <@smaug> -oak?
3215. # [23:22] <@smaug> what is that
3216. # [23:23] <@smaug> use mozilla-central
3217. # [23:23] <idwer> the first hit on the list, http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/?C=M;O=D
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3219. # [23:25] <gps> wow, someone's been checking some large blobs into the gaia repo
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3221. # [23:27] <@smaug> idwer: so you login to gmail, close browser and after you restart browser, loading gmail.com requires you to enter uname/pw, and that is the behavior which has regressed?
3222. # [23:27] <idwer> smaug: only pw
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3224. # [23:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8510052b2313 - Julian Seward - Bug 970643 - Valgrind does not understand OdinMonkey's guard page mechanism. r=luke.
3225. # [23:28] <@smaug> sure, if the form is saved
3226. # [23:28] <@smaug> idwer: so, certainly can't reproduce :(
3227. # [23:28] <@smaug> not with gmail nor with facebook
3228. # [23:29] <@smaug> idwer: can you put the regression range to the bug
3229. # [23:29] <@smaug> (and perhaps verify that it is the right one )
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3232. # [23:30] <@roc> aaaaahhh Bobby Holley busted me!
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3234. # [23:30] <gkw> sewardj: did you land the corresponding Valgrind patch for bug 970643?
3235. # [23:31] <sewardj> gkw: I'm doing that right now
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3237. # [23:31] <gkw> sewardj: great, thanks!
3238. # [23:31] <sewardj> gkw: I want to run V regtests one last time, so will be some small delay.
3239. # [23:31] <gkw> sewardj: sure
3240. # [23:32] <idwer> smaug: are you sure? because I can, with a fresh profile created by build https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e84a391b604b
3241. # [23:32] <idwer> on win32
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3246. # [23:33] <@smaug> idwer: on linux I certainly can't reproduce
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3248. # [23:34] <idwer> smaug: the irony.. I'm logged out of bugzilla as well
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3254. # [23:36] <@smaug> idwer: and you don't have any addons installed?
3255. # [23:36] <@smaug> like, you don't have some antivirus thing which tries to inject its addon to firefox whenever a new profile is created
3256. # [23:36] <idwer> smaug: not on the two newly created profiles
3257. # [23:36] <idwer> no
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3263. # [23:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f80f6fa65b6 - David Keeler - bug 985201 - follow-up: fix comment mentioning "Insanity" (it should be "mozilla::pkix") r=me DONTBUILD
3264. # [23:40] <idwer> I should setup a desktop, for building/bisecting.. hard to achieve, without having a desk :( :)
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3272. # [23:42] <nthomas> we have an archive of builds you can use
3273. # [23:42] * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen
3274. # [23:43] <nthomas> hmm, does it go back that far ...
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3276. # [23:43] <idwer> for, say, debian testing?
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3278. # [23:43] <@smaug> nthomas: I don't think it goes that far
3279. # [23:43] <nthomas> no, start of september
3280. # [23:43] <gozala> sfink: ping
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3282. # [23:44] <nthomas> 100TB should be enough for anybody!11!!1!
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3284. # [23:44] <@khuey> I don't think that's what bill gates said
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3288. # [23:46] <nthomas> I'm sure there must be a moore's law equivalent for memory
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3301. # [23:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e076f1fb825b - Chris Pearce - Bug 984698 - Reduce the amount of audio prerolled when we are not also decoding video in the same file. r=padenot
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3303. # [23:51] <RyanVM|afk> hmm, to read the /. thread about fx29 or not
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3305. # [23:52] <philor> not, you're already mad enough
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3308. # [23:53] <RyanVM|afk> philor: i'm sure they're accepting australis with open arms
3309. # [23:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de535cd27ee7 - David Keeler - bug 985021 - mozilla::pkix: temporarily accept pathLenConstraint in EE basic constraints extensions r=briansmith
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3312. # [23:56] <@smaug> it is a bit surprising to release australis on beta, when its tabs look still horrible on recent windows PCs
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3316. # [23:56] <sfink> gozala: pong
3317. # [23:57] <gozala> sfink: hey I was wondering if you’d be able to answer few questions in gerards to message channels
3318. # [23:57] <gozala> I’m having some issues
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3322. # [23:58] <sfink> ok, though I should warn you that I don't actually know much about them -- I'm only involved with respect to the the structured cloning (Transferable MessagePorts) part
3323. # [23:59] <sfink> and even then, I'm mostly setting up the hooks to allow it
3324. # [23:59] <sfink> baku is the one who used the hooks to implement them
3325. # [23:59] <sfink> but anyway, you can try me
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