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- # [01:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/42ff2301a57f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to fx-team.
- # [01:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/289dd78bae4d - Mike Hommey - Bug 986301 - Fix --with-libxul-sdk after bug 969164. r=gps
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- # [01:52] <ekr> anyone have any idea what might have changed in the build to give us this: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4656296
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- # [02:01] <NeilAway> ekr: dunno but you're the third person that I've seen with that problem
- # [02:01] <ekr> NeilAway: yes, sid stamm had the problem the other night
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- # [04:31] <ekr> Is there someone I can get to review a trivial compilation fix: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986885
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- # [04:32] <ekr> nalexander: I'm happy to point this to someone else. But it's breaking a bunch of people with linux boxes.
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- # [04:34] <nalexander> ekr: lgtm.
- # [04:34] <ekr> nalexander: I'll commit r=nalexander?
- # [04:34] <nalexander> ekr: yep, and I updated the ticket.
- # [04:34] <ekr> thanks
- # [04:35] <nalexander> ekr: in general, I advocate for r=me, r=trivial, or no r at all for truly tiny things.
- # [04:35] <ekr> nalexander: thanks. I just try to err on the safe side.
- # [04:35] <nalexander> ekr: 'course.
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- # [04:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae66e862234e - ekr - Bug 986885 - Fix build problem in fmp4/demuxer. r=nalexander
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- # [04:50] <nalexander> ekr: \o/
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- # [05:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/285dfafec8f6 - L. David Baron - Bug 986404: Disable fade-out of overlay scrollbars during reftest. r=mstange
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- # [06:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb690596c4ae - L. David Baron - Bug 986404 - Mark test as failing due to scrollbars showing up.
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- # [14:50] <RealRaven> How do I configure small /large icons in Australis? Is there an about:config setting?
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- # [14:53] <zzzzz> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/
- # [14:53] <RealRaven> zzzzz: ok, which one? I have Theme Test installed. currently reviewing a theme
- # [14:54] <RealRaven> can I run this with a full theme?
- # [14:54] <zzzzz> don't know
- # [14:54] <zzzzz> I've not used a 'full theme' in over 5 yrs
- # [14:54] <zzzzz> just was not worth hassle
- # [14:54] <RealRaven> k, will test. so the icon size is hard-coded for Australis (depending on full themes).
- # [14:54] <zzzzz> I believe so , yes...
- # [14:55] <RealRaven> Well, I usually use Nautipolis as I don't like to be treated like I am color blind :-)
- # [14:55] <RealRaven> ymmv
- # [14:55] <zzzzz> The underlying code for small icons is still there as CTR has an option for small-icons, which I'm using now, so I know it works in default theme
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- # [14:57] <pmurias> the current version of nanojit lives in http://hg.mozilla.org/tamarin-redux?
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- # [15:10] <RealRaven> zzzzz: alright, didn't see that option in Australis. Have fun in church
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- # [15:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/9c1be3177963 - Mike Conley - Bug 979987 - center-align the footers of panel menus. r=jaws, a=sledru.
- # [15:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7daf666421fe - Mike Conley - Bug 941309 - Prevent underflow events from being eaten by toggled pseudoelements when coming out of Panorama. r=Gijs, a=sledru.
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- # [16:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/114fde4642e0 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 983845 follow-up: Move the header to content/base and enable BrowserFeedWriter for xulrunner as well
- # [16:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ae66e862234e - ekr - Bug 986885 - Fix build problem in fmp4/demuxer. r=nalexander
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- # [16:36] <philor> *intentionally*?
- # [16:38] <philor> bleah, more complicated than that, who do I blame for https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=36571783&tree=Mozilla-Central?
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- # [18:50] <jesup> smaug: if you happen to be around and have time for a quick review: bug 986762. In a failure case, the Release needs to be proxied to MainThread
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- # [19:23] <@smaug> jesup: it is safe crash on branches because we explicitly crash?
- # [19:24] <@smaug> ah, comment 4
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- # [19:24] <jesup> smaug: Yes. I explicitly don't use MOZ_ASSERT for select assertions, expecially thread-safety ones. WEBRTC_ASSERT becomes a MOZ_CRASH on opt/release builds
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- # [19:24] <jesup> belt and suspenders :-)
- # [19:25] <jesup> And I did it explicitly to ensure stuff like this couldn't become a sec issue
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- # [19:42] * jesup pushed for mtransport to do likewise.... though last I recall it hasn't
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- # [19:44] <jesup> smaug: thanks. .take() - aha. I was looking at nsCOMPtr.h saying "there has to be a way to do this, and forget() doesn't work" but ::take() isn't documented (no comments, while the other functions have them) so I missed it
- # [19:46] <jesup> and there's no mention in the MDN page (though I didn't look there)
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- # [19:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82b3e6f5e0ae - Randell Jesup - Bug 986762: don't release DataChannelConnection on transient thread on readblob failure r=smaug
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- # [19:52] <NeilAway> smaug: ah, my problem was that I was starting a load, opening a dialog, then adding the load event listener, which doesn't work well ;-)
- # [19:55] <@smaug> jesup: blame khuey|away. He added .take() like last week
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- # [20:13] <@gavin> (or browser-harness, I always forget which is which)
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- # [20:20] <philor> browser-test.js, if I turn out to be right
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- # [20:23] <philor> mmm, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=36579031&tree=Fx-Team - nobody expects the tabview left open
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- # [20:28] <philor> heh, 5% failure rate and thus eligible to be visible would be around once per push - not looking too good, b-c! https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&showall=1&jobname=browser-chrome
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- # [23:04] <@roc> Interesting stuff about Mozilla in exhibit 1871 here: http://pando.com/2014/03/22/revealed-apple-and-googles-wage-fixing-cartel-involved-dozens-more-companies-over-one-million-employees/
- # [23:04] <@roc> and it's not that we're part of the cartel, because it seems we never were
- # [23:05] <@roc> seems like the person whose recruitment by Google sparked all this was one of the ex-Mozilla Safari team people. I'm guessing Hyatt
- # [23:06] <@roc> "He was the primary contributor to Zuel"
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- # [23:10] <ekr> I like the one where Sergey says in 2005 he told Jobs Google wasn't building a browser.
- # [23:10] <ekr> I wonder when they started
- # [23:11] <@roc> we have a pretty good idea
- # [23:12] <ekr> and...?
- # [23:13] <@roc> I don't remember exactly, but I think it was around late 2006
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- # [23:14] <@roc> Google's Firefox contributors all went dark at the same time
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- # [23:15] <@roc> my loathing of Silicon Valley culture just went up a notch
- # [23:15] <philor> between 1.5 and 2.0, so during 2006
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- # [23:15] <@roc> ekr: Brendan would be happy to tell you stories, I'm sure :-)
- # [23:16] <ekr> roc: I'm not sure why this makes you hate the valley. I mean, this kind of deal was only really relevant because employee mobility is so high
- # [23:17] <@roc> It's the cosy web of people sitting on each other's boards and scratching each other's backs.
- # [23:17] <ekr> That's a pretty broad generalizatio
- # [23:18] <ekr> And again, it's only really possible because of the density of tech companies. You get that anywhere there's a cluster of similar companies.
- # [23:18] <@roc> Eric Schmidt gets a call from his friend Meg Whitman and decides to make her happy
- # [23:19] <@roc> I'm not saying the Valley is *uniquely* corrupt :-)
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- # [23:20] <ekr> Well, I would observe that if your concern is the welfare of the employees, they are much better off in an environment where there is competition from their skills (even when it's artificially restricted like this) than one where there is basically one employer. I can tell you plenty of stories about smart tech people trapped in crappy jobs because there's only one reasonable employer and they can't move.
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- # [23:20] <ekr> Indeed, you no doubt work with many of them, since Mozilla specializes in hiring such people.
- # [23:20] <@roc> I agree
- # [23:22] <@roc> it's one reason I moved back to NZ
- # [23:22] <idwer_> meh
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- # [23:23] <@roc> one of the other things I hate about the Valley is that its gravitational pull is a big reason why a lot of other places have zero or one good employers
- # [23:24] <idwer> smaug: I ran a number of tests, say 10 runs, with a fresh profile made with a 31.0a1 nightly and only during the last three runs I ran into that cookie/session problem
- # [23:24] <idwer> not during the first 6 or 7 runs..
- # [23:25] <@roc> which attitude developed as I watched CMU spin out startup after startup and they inevitably got acquired by Valley firms and shipped out there, leaving Pittsburgh as decrepit as ever
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- # [23:30] <Yoric> xpcom?
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- # [23:33] <@smaug> idwer: but you can reproduce it easily with old builds?
- # [23:34] <@smaug> Yoric: there are no bugs in cycle collector
- # [23:34] <@smaug> Yoric: but yes, xpcom
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- # [23:37] <idwer> smaug: I can't reproduce it all, with 25.0.1
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- # [23:37] <idwer> if I had long hair I'd pull it out :)
- # [23:38] <@smaug> idwer: I mean, you can reproduce easily with FF26
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- # [23:41] <ekr> roc: well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, since I think of the fact that there are all these companies in very close proximity as a huge feature.
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- # [23:43] <idwer> smaug: yes
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- # [23:43] <idwer> I even recall seeing it with ff26 all the time
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- # [23:43] <@smaug> idwer: so, regression range...
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- # [23:44] <idwer> the range I posted in the bug entry?
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- # [23:44] <@smaug> idwer: so we need now someone to check which change caused the issue
- # [23:45] <@smaug> it may mean compiling each revision in the regression range
- # [23:46] <idwer> cumbersome.
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- # [23:53] <@smaug> idwer: well, I don't know how else to know what has caused the issue
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- # [23:54] <@smaug> unfortunately I can't help with that since I can't reproduce the bug
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- # [23:54] <idwer> which operating system are you on, exactly?
- # [23:55] <@smaug> 64bit linux, Fedora 20
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- # [23:57] <idwer> I'll have to try on my debian install then
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