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1. # Session Start: Thu Apr 03 00:00:00 2014
2. # Session Ident: #developers
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5. # [00:00] <@ehsan> I think that's how JavaScript-global-property stuff get resolved
6. # [00:00] <@ehsan> i.e., if the property exists on the window object already, we don't resolve them
7. # [00:00] <@gavin> they were both JavaScript-global-property
8. # [00:01] <@ehsan> oh I see what you mean
9. # [00:01] <@ehsan> yes
10. # [00:01] <@ehsan> the difference between the two is that external is spec'ed
11. # [00:01] <@gavin> ok, so not maintaining existing behavior
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13. # [00:01] <@ehsan> so we chose to not to that dance for window.external because that would be incompatible with other UAs
14. # [00:01] <@ehsan> right
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16. # [00:01] <@gavin> makes sense
17. # [00:02] <@ehsan> my hope is that we'll remove window.sidebar altogether soon :)
18. # [00:02] <@ehsan> (you agree on that right?)
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20. # [00:02] <@gavin> yes
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22. # [00:02] <@ehsan> did you file a bug for that at some point?
23. # [00:02] <@gavin> yes
24. # [00:02] * @ehsan kind of remmebers a bug
25. # [00:02] <@ehsan> got a # handy?
26. # [00:03] <@ehsan> gavin: the good news is that I have a shitlist of this stuff :)
27. # [00:03] <@gavin> ehsan: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=862147
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29. # [00:03] <@ehsan> I'll add that bug to the list
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32. # [00:03] <@ehsan> oh, it's already on the list! \o/
33. # [00:04] <@gavin> ehsan: I'm asking because I decided I want to fix bug 518929 right now
34. # [00:04] * @ehsan looks
35. # [00:04] <@gavin> ehsan: because I a have poor sense of prioritization and time management
36. # [00:04] <@ehsan> lol
37. # [00:04] <@gavin> but fuck it I'ma write some code
38. # [00:04] <@ehsan> good for you :)
39. # [00:05] <@ehsan> gavin: so, to do that, you need to move the component to core obviously
40. # [00:05] <@ehsan> I don't know if our existing 3/4 implementations are compatible in any way
41. # [00:05] <cpeterson> is this on the prioritized backlog? :)
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43. # [00:05] <@ehsan> but I don't expect the webidl stuff to get into your way
44. # [00:05] <@gavin> I'm just going to port the firefox one
45. # [00:05] <@gavin> (which is horrible and probably requires reworking to get dom peer review)
46. # [00:05] <@ehsan> that wfm!
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48. # [00:05] <@gavin> (but should be minor)
49. # [00:05] <@ehsan> is there anything browser/ specific in it though?
50. # [00:06] <@gavin> (aww yeah security checks http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/sidebar/nsSidebar.js?force=1#24)
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52. # [00:06] <@ehsan> o_O
53. # [00:06] <@gavin> not really
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56. # [00:07] <@ehsan> gavin: that function is crazy!
57. # [00:07] <@ehsan> it prompts?
58. # [00:07] <@gavin> yeah
59. # [00:07] <@ehsan> omg
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62. # [00:07] <@ehsan> kill it please? :)
63. # [00:08] <@ehsan> so this is browser/ specific! http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/sidebar/nsSidebar.js?force=1#93
64. # [00:08] <@ehsan> but should be easy to port
65. # [00:08] <@ehsan> gavin: does it make sense to have an ftp engineURL? ;)
66. # [00:09] <@gavin> ehsan: don't worry, I'll be sure to add gopher: support
67. # [00:09] <@ehsan> yeah I think google wants it!
68. # [00:09] <@ehsan> overall I think doing this should be "easy"
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70. # [00:10] <@gavin> that's why I'm doing it
71. # [00:10] <@ehsan> gavin: one other thing to note: for now, we don't have support for this stuff in b2g
72. # [00:10] <@ehsan> gavin: you probably want to keep it that way...
73. # [00:10] <@ehsan> there is a bug on file for b2g about this
74. # [00:10] <@gavin> I go back and forth between whether shittiness of nsSidebar or its duplication in seven different places are the biggest problems
75. # [00:10] <@ehsan> gavin: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=897445
76. # [00:11] <@ehsan> yeah I thought about that...
77. # [00:11] <@ehsan> and decided no
78. # [00:11] <@ehsan> but YMMV
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80. # [00:11] <@ehsan> but good luck!
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82. # [00:12] <@gavin> ehsan: b2g can just be a no-op
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84. # [00:12] <@ehsan> well
85. # [00:12] <@ehsan> gavin: we don't want to expose the API and have it do nothing
86. # [00:12] <@ehsan> it's better to keep not exposing it
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89. # [00:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d67f8c25a033 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
90. # [00:12] <@gavin> not sure I agree
91. # [00:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/cac607fed302 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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93. # [00:13] <Waldo> not exposing makes it easier to remove eventually
94. # [00:13] <@gavin> oh for sidebar, sure
95. # [00:13] <@gavin> I was just thinking about external
96. # [00:13] <@ehsan> gavin: I'm talking about both
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98. # [00:14] <@ehsan> we're trying very hard to stop exposing no-op APIs
99. # [00:14] <@ehsan> and we should definitely not expose new ones
100. # [00:14] <@gavin> on b2g?
101. # [00:14] <ochameau> fitzgen: you should land first if your patch is ready. mine if far from being done.
102. # [00:14] <@ehsan> everywhere
103. # [00:14] <@ehsan> including b2g
104. # [00:14] <@gavin> well this isn't a new API
105. # [00:15] <@ehsan> it is on b2g
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107. # [00:15] <jimb> Is it common for a content page to have a significant portion of its memory consumption be chrome JS objects that the content entrains?
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109. # [00:15] <jimb> Or is simply looking at the content compartment generally a decent estimate of the content's consumption?
110. # [00:16] <@gavin> ehsan: but my point is that this is different than "considering adding new webapi"
111. # [00:16] <jimb> njn: ^
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115. # [00:16] <@gavin> ehsan: b2g not supporting window.external is just a side effect of the way it was implemented
116. # [00:16] <fitzgen> ochameau: I
117. # [00:16] <fitzgen> 'm fixing it up now
118. # [00:17] <@gavin> ehsan: what happened with other APIs that existed prior to b2g that depend on UI that b2g didn't yet have? were those hidden too?
119. # [00:17] <@ehsan> gavin: it's a mess over all, but we're hiding the ones that we know don't do anything
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122. # [00:18] <@gavin> tbh I'm not sure it matters much either way in practice here
123. # [00:18] <@ehsan> gavin: but the overall point is, lack of the existence of a name lets you feature detect things by "name" in foo
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125. # [00:18] <@gavin> but it seems like for Gecko-consistency state a no-op would be better
126. # [00:18] <@ehsan> if we expose no-op names, we're breaking that
127. # [00:18] <@ehsan> we're not Gecko consistent already ;)
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129. # [00:18] <@ehsan> ideally we'll get there some day
130. # [00:19] <@ehsan> but there will be APIs which will be hidden in some flavor or Gecko
131. # [00:19] <@ehsan> because of either a lack of implementation, lack of hw to support the implementatiton, etc
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133. # [00:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ad944e15050 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 990892 - MediaMetadataManager::DispatchMetadataIfNeeded leaks items popped from mMetadataQueue. r=padenot
134. # [00:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4532beca6f2 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 990817 - Clarify nestegg packet memory management in WebMReader. r=rillian
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136. # [00:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d5155bd974c - Matthew Gregan - Bug 927245 - Remove deprecated Audio Data API implementation. r=cajbir,smaug
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141. # [00:22] <@ehsan> gavin: I actually care about this rather strongly fwiw
142. # [00:23] <@gavin> ehsan: that's fine, I don't :)
143. # [00:23] <@gavin> you win!
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145. # [00:23] <@ehsan> :)
146. # [00:23] <@ehsan> that was easy ;)
147. # [00:23] <@ehsan> too easy almost!
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168. # [00:30] <@njn> jimb: I have no idea
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189. # [00:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d2e06fb325b8 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 991171 - Don't try to init the transferable that somebody else has inited for us before; r=bzbarsky
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201. # [00:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c74157ac995 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 989897. In order to properly compute root composition size view the root composition size first as layer pixels in the target layer, then convert to css pixels.
202. # [00:48] <firebot> r=kats
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215. # [01:03] <dholbert> C++ question: anyone know if virtual method implementations can use Return Value Optimization? (I suspect not, but after some quick googling, couldn't find an answer either way)
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219. # [01:04] <dholbert> (I suspect not because AFAIK the caller has to know something about the function implementation in order to benefit from RVO, and it seems like the function being virtual would break that)
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250. # [01:19] <reuben> dholbert: I think compilers do it the other way around – locals in the implementation that are of the matching class type are marked as RVO candidates
251. # [01:19] <reuben> so virtual methods shouldn't break it
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254. # [01:20] <dholbert> reuben, but the point is to avoid a copy into a local in the caller
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257. # [01:20] <dholbert> reuben, which means for it to work, the caller has to set aside some memory before the call, for the callee to instantiate its returned thing into
258. # [01:20] <dholbert> IIUC
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260. # [01:20] <dholbert> (I might be misunderstanding)
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262. # [01:22] <dholbert> reuben, e.g. if the caller has "BigObject obj = CreateBigObject();" then RVO would hopefully let us avoid copying from a local var inside of CreateBigObject() into obj in the caller
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265. # [01:22] <dholbert> but for that to work, I'd expect the caller to have to know something about the CreateBigObject impl. (which means I expect it can't be virtual)
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267. # [01:23] <tbsaunde> dholbert: why? it just needs to know it needs to leave space which it would need to do anyway even if the callie will actually do a copy
268. # [01:23] <reuben> ^
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272. # [01:24] <dholbert> tbsaunde, maybe I'm misunderstanding how RVO works
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274. # [01:25] <dholbert> when it's working, doesn't it prevent *any* copying into |obj| above? i.e. CreateBigObject would effectively just directly populate |obj| in the caller?
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277. # [01:25] <reuben> yes
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279. # [01:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bab702b3df10 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 977126 Part 1 -- Changes to arm to support subPtr(Register,Address) r=mrosenberg
280. # [01:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88a167e0ca30 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 977126 Part 3 -- Inline SetTypedObjectOffset intrinsic r=shu
281. # [01:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3df7451c35c - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 977126 Part 2 -- Changes to x86/x64 to support subPtr(Register,Address) r=jandem
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284. # [01:28] <dholbert> reuben / tbsaunde, ah, right; the caller sets up the memory either way, and the callee can either directly populate that memory (with RVO) or copy into that memory (w/o RVO)
285. # [01:28] <dholbert> ok
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287. # [01:28] <reuben> yeah
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291. # [01:29] <tbsaunde> dholbert: yeah I think so but my memory of calling convention is kind of fuzzy :(
292. # [01:29] <dholbert> tbsaunde, as is mine, clearly :)
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294. # [01:29] <reuben> dholbert: http://code.woboq.org/userspace/llvm/tools/clang/lib/CodeGen/CGStmt.cpp.html#836
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301. # [01:33] <heycam> wonder if we should start keeping a dashboard like this: http://status.modern.ie/
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304. # [01:35] <Jesse_> or http://www.chromestatus.com/features
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307. # [01:36] <heycam> yeah
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314. # [01:41] <NeilAway> dholbert: don't forget the copy elision you're getting there too ;-)
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318. # [01:42] <NeilAway> dholbert: but you can think of a function that returns an object as doing a placement new, and when you construct an object from the result of a function the compiler can pass the original object's memory
319. # [01:44] <KWierso|sheriffduty> thought it was too quiet... tbpl just stopped loading new results for the last three hours on fx-team...
320. # [01:44] <dholbert> NeilAway, thanks
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325. # [01:46] <NeilAway> dholbert: NRVO is sort of the same trick in the callee, whereby instead of doing a placement new, you simply reuse the passed-in memory for your local variable
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328. # [01:47] <philor> KWierso|sheriffduty: looks to me like m-i is busted in several ways, too
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330. # [01:48] <KWierso|sheriffduty> oh hey, inbound stopped updating, too!
331. # [01:48] <philor> Mac tp at the least
332. # [01:48] <philor> maybe all b2g, not sure how much is already backed out
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338. # [01:51] <khademi> Hi, I'm new to mozilla. In my work I need to access the javascript abstract syntact tree, does anyone know where to start?
339. # [01:52] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: the tp bustage is on other trees, too :\
340. # [01:52] <philor> fun
341. # [01:52] <nalexander> khademi: I think most people who want to do that use a Javascript parser written in Javascript, rather than trying to get the AST from the browser itself. But I'm not expert in this area.
342. # [01:52] <nalexander> khademi: what are you trying to do?
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344. # [01:53] <philor> I haven't looked at any others, or any since this morning, and I just got back from having the eye doctor dilate my eyes, so I can barely claim to actually be looking now :)
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347. # [01:53] <KWierso|sheriffduty> b2g stuff is screwy elsewhere, too
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351. # [01:54] <philor> like merge-elsewhere, or reconfig-elsewhere?
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353. # [01:55] <khademi> < <nalexander>: I see but, usually the JS code is obfuscated and there is no point to parse it using JS libraries. I want to track a variable and see if it goes to server
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355. # [01:56] <nalexander> khademi: I think that will be hard whether you try to get Gecko's JS engine to "track" the variable or parse the AST in some way to do the same.
356. # [01:56] <nalexander> khademi: I have never heard of a way to get your hands on the parsed AST from an add-on, but perhaps this exists.
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358. # [01:56] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: there haven't been merges since 6 or 7 am pacific time this morning...
359. # [01:57] <nalexander> khademi: a JS parser (in JS) is your best bet; but you'd be much better off trying to isolate the communication between your machine and the remote host in some other way, and figuring out what happens there.
360. # [01:57] <KWierso|sheriffduty> philor: and retriggering the b2g failure on b2g-inbound came back green
361. # [01:57] <KWierso|sheriffduty> so iunno
362. # [01:58] <khademi> <nalexander>: Thanks for your comment. Actually, I don't think it's possible to that using Add-ons. I want to change the mozilla source code for that purpose but I don't know where to begin :(
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365. # [01:58] <tbsaunde> I think the real AST is C++ only, and trying to use the byte code is probably worse than dealing with the obfiscated js itself
366. # [01:58] <nalexander> khademi: that's a huge hammer for a small nut.
367. # [01:58] <nalexander> tbsaunde: agreed, and thanks for confirmation.
368. # [01:59] <tbsaunde> I'd be kind of suprised and sad if that wasn't a js deobfiscator out there already
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370. # [01:59] <khademi> <nalexander> & <tbsaunde>: Thanks guys for comments, so what's your advice?
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373. # [02:01] <nalexander> khademi: again, I'd concentrate on however your localhost is communicating with the remote server. JS is unlikely to be part of that.
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375. # [02:02] <nalexander> khademi: you can use the Developer Tools to watch network requests back to the server.
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377. # [02:02] <tbsaunde> khademi: well, easiest is if communication isn't encrypted and you can just use wireshark
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381. # [02:03] <tbsaunde> if it is encrypted I guess you probably have to hack up necko to dump what its going to encrypt out someplace
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383. # [02:03] <tbsaunde> unless nalexander means the developer tools already do that which would be sweet, and if they don't have that we should add it
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386. # [02:05] <khademi> <tbsaunde> & <nalexander> so I'll check the developer tools, Thanks!
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388. # [02:06] <tbsaunde> khademi: http://www.labnol.org/software/deobfuscate-javascript/19815/ may be of use too
389. # [02:06] <tbsaunde> (just first thing I found on google)
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392. # [02:08] <khademi> <tbsaunde>: yeah I found that one, it's a kinda JavaScript beautifier. I mean it only corrects the indentation.
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398. # [02:11] <tbsaunde> khademi: well, obfiscation can a lossy process and even if it isn't producing highly readable code from obfiscated code is non trivial
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402. # [02:13] <tbsaunde> khademi: also a js debugger is probably going to be fairly useful, dynamic analysis is often easier than static since you probably don't even need to think about a lot of the code you have
403. # [02:13] <khademi> <tbsaunde> : that's true, that's why I have to go to the source code and monitor the source code for variable or better to say, function call tracking.
404. # [02:15] <tbsaunde> well unfortunately I don't know much of anything about reverse engineering js so I can't really help more than that
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407. # [02:17] <khademi> <tbsaunde>: Thanks for your attention. You already helped me. I have to check couple of tools and choose the one which works for me.
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425. # [02:24] <@smaug> dholbert: uh, still such stack object usage
426. # [02:24] <@smaug> I went through gfx code years ago
427. # [02:24] <@smaug> about this same stuff
428. # [02:24] <dholbert> smaug, yeah?
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430. # [02:25] <@smaug> IIRC before FF3
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432. # [02:25] <dholbert> smaug, heh
433. # [02:25] <dholbert> smaug, hopefully private destructors will prevent it from getting worse
434. # [02:25] <dholbert> s/worse/much worse/
435. # [02:25] <tbsaunde> smaug: ref counted stuff on stack?
436. # [02:25] <@smaug> right
437. # [02:25] <dholbert> tbsaunde, in some cases, yeah
438. # [02:25] <tbsaunde> ugh
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442. # [02:26] <@smaug> We need HEAP_CLASS annotation
443. # [02:27] <@smaug> and each class should have STACK_CLASS or HEAP_CLASS or STACK_OR_HEAP_CLASS
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514. # [03:06] <KWierso|sheriffduty> nmatsakis: bustage :(
515. # [03:06] <KWierso|sheriffduty> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37175783&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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584. # [03:43] <@bz> hmph
585. # [03:44] <@bz> sed -i will add newlines to ends of files
586. # [03:44] * @bz wonders what editors people are using that leave no newline at the end to start with....
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588. # [03:46] <Unfocused> most editors on windows?
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591. # [03:47] <@bz> heh
592. # [03:47] <@bz> I can't find an editor that would let me do that
593. # [03:47] <nthomas> tried |sed -i''| ?
594. # [03:47] <@bz> nthomas: yep
595. # [03:47] <nthomas> mac sed is a bit weird
596. # [03:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d7fcc0c1a744 - Michael Wu - Bug 985017 - [1/2] Support null VolatileBufferPtrs, r=glandium
597. # [03:47] <nthomas> stick it at the end of the command line ?
598. # [03:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/2c4d1aa4e976 - Michael Wu - Bug 985017 - [2/2] Cache a gfxImageSurface for the drawing path, r=seth
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765. # [05:27] <nigelb> morning
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800. # [05:52] <avih> is there an irc channel for service-now issues?
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805. # [05:53] <jdm> maybe #wpr, but it just seems to be shannon in there
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810. # [05:54] <glob> avih, #servicedesk
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812. # [05:55] <philor> there is, #servicedesk, #servicenow, #desktop, something like that
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815. # [05:55] <glob> avih, catch: "#servicedesk office hours M-F 8-6 PT"
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817. # [05:55] <philor> the best way is to ask your service-now question in #it and get redirected that way, only two letters to remember
818. # [05:55] <avih> i tried #servicenow earlier but it was empty. and couldn't find irc mentioned at their help pages. will try the others, thx.
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820. # [05:56] <jesup> bz: emacs has a setting to not *force* a newline when saving a file :-) But yeah, probably Windows editors
821. # [05:56] <avih> philor: only 2 letters! i should write that down! :)
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825. # [05:56] * jesup leaves it in the "force newlines" state :-)
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827. # [05:58] <@bz> yeah
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830. # [05:59] <jesup> servicenow... reminds me, I should do a laptop refresh. (W520 right now, upgraded to SSD/16GB) The 540 looks reasonable, and I don't travel that often - it stays on the desk most of the time as a 3rd screen and windows builder
831. # [06:00] <nigelb> Does SSD make a significant difference to build times?
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836. # [06:02] <jesup> yeah, generally, though it seems to help less on Windows than Linux. gps and perhaps njn or glandium could comment more
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839. # [06:02] <glob> nigelb, http://gregoryszorc.com/blog/2012/07/29/mozilla-central-build-times/
840. # [06:02] <@njn> nigelb: it does
841. # [06:02] <glob> "If you want to throw money at a build machine, I think your first choice should be an SSD"
842. # [06:02] <@njn> nigelb: it makes ccache much faster
843. # [06:02] <@njn> nigelb: and other disk-heavy operations like grep
844. # [06:02] <jcranmer> compiling is heavily I/O bound
845. # [06:02] <@njn> and |find|
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847. # [06:03] <nigelb> aha
848. # [06:03] <jesup> and SSDs rock on linux. (ccache and grepping the source tree
849. # [06:03] <nigelb> I'm on linux, yeah.
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851. # [06:03] <@njn> nigelb: https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2013/09/12/bleg-for-a-new-machine-2/
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859. # [06:05] <nigelb> The context is, I'm getting an SSD today.
860. # [06:05] <nigelb> Wondering how much of a difference it's going to make.
861. # [06:05] <jcranmer> before unified builds, I calculated that on average the compiler has to parse every line text around 20 times
862. # [06:05] <nigelb> Usually, it takes nearly an hour for me.
863. # [06:05] <jesup> chfind foobarbaz (find .c*/.h files and pipe to xargs grep) -> 8s on a repo that I hadn't touched in weeks. less than 1s on the second run (cached).
864. # [06:06] <jcranmer> nigelb: huh, I'm normally around 20min for a build
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866. # [06:06] <nigelb> jcranmer: Only 2GB RAM and ancient CPU :)
867. # [06:06] <jesup> 2.5 year old desktop xeon/SSD/16GB -> 14 min cold
868. # [06:06] <nigelb> This machine is 5 years old.
869. # [06:06] <jesup> 2GB ram -> forever :-)
870. # [06:06] <jcranmer> nigelb: sounds my like old laptop
871. # [06:07] <jcranmer> my new laptop uses a VM and a non-SSD drive
872. # [06:07] <nigelb> Getting a new laptop soon. the ssd will move over once I get it :)
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874. # [06:07] <jcranmer> takes about 40 or so minutes for a clobber build I think
875. # [06:07] <jcranmer> the desktop (with ssd) does much better
876. # [06:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/27848bba5922 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
877. # [06:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d2b5a653e5fd - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
878. # [06:08] <jcranmer> wow, I managed to write 11 blog posts in one month?
879. # [06:08] <nigelb> njn: 32 GB of RAM.... *drooools*
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881. # [06:08] <jesup> laptops often have lower max-TDP which affects all-out perf
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885. # [06:10] <jcranmer> did I ever tell you that I've managed to OOM a 128GB RAM machine?
886. # [06:10] <nigelb> I... how?
887. # [06:11] <jcranmer> http://quetzalcoatal.blogspot.com/2012/02/achievement-unlocked-use-100gb-of.html
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889. # [06:11] <nigelb> achivement unlocked indeed
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891. # [06:11] <jcranmer> LLVM goes into super-memory-hog mode when debug information is involved
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894. # [06:11] <jesup> KWierso|afk: ping
895. # [06:12] <jesup> WTF?
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897. # [06:12] * jesup goes to check m-c to see what got uplifted....
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899. # [06:14] <jesup> oh bleep. We uplifted the 10-patch AEC checking to m-c, but not the backout....
900. # [06:15] <jesup> for b2g emu M10 perma-orange
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903. # [06:16] * jesup thinks he should land the backout directly onto central, unless a sheriff has a better idea
904. # [06:16] <philor> yep, please do
905. # [06:16] <jesup> k
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907. # [06:17] <jcranmer> clobber build of Firefox took 10:17.73 on this system
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913. # [06:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db80411a6185 - John Daggett - Bug 975460 - disable async font loader on OSX 10.6. r=smichaud,mkato
914. # [06:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c80bb0a566bf - John Daggett - Bug 975460 - remove use of CGCopyFontTable in async font loader which didn't solve the crash problem on 10.6. r=smichaud,mkato
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917. # [06:18] <jesup> philor: any preference on the best way to do it to avoid extra work by sheriffs later on the next set of merges?
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919. # [06:19] <philor> jesup: as long as it's the same backout, doesn't matter, it'll merge smooth as silk
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921. # [06:20] <jesup> ok, hg export -r foo >/tmp/backout; cd ../m-c; hg qimport /tmp/backout :-)
922. # [06:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a84cbff4118 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 989214 Rename nsPaintRequest to mozilla::dom::PaintRequest r=smaug
923. # [06:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/145bb26f6180 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 990855 part.2 Remove dom/events from local includes of moz.build files r=smaug
924. # [06:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e7986239214 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 990855 part.1 Export TextComposition.h as mozilla/TextComposition.h r=smaug
925. # [06:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b29352bc495f - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 989212 Rename nsEventStates to mozilla::EventStates r=smaug
926. # [06:21] * philor warms up his trees to merge it around
927. # [06:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ac6cbaa47f34 - Randell Jesup - Backed out 965c62289427:cb894b5d342f for perma-orange on b2g emulator M10 r=backout
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930. # [06:24] <philor> and for the ten thousandth time, this is why I want tbpl to have a way to mark a range of pushes as unmergeable
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932. # [06:25] <glob> philor, is that something that treeherder will support?
933. # [06:25] <philor> glob: no idea, I looked at it once, but it didn't seem to be working at all, haven't been back since
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936. # [06:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/ac6cbaa47f34 - Randell Jesup - Backed out 965c62289427:cb894b5d342f for perma-orange on b2g emulator M10 r=backout
937. # [06:26] <glob> philor, i believe they are pretty close now - https://treeherder.allizom.org/
938. # [06:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/21bfbc433bce - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-c to f-t
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940. # [06:26] <@njn> nigelb: if you changing just the hard disk, that's a very interesting experiment. I'd love to hear the outcome
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943. # [06:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/ac6cbaa47f34 - Randell Jesup - Backed out 965c62289427:cb894b5d342f for perma-orange on b2g emulator M10 r=backout
944. # [06:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/90ed8a0beaf7 - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-c to b-i
945. # [06:29] <nigelb> njn: will do. though it might not be a perfect experiment. Either this HDD is going really bad or btrfs on debian stable isn't great. I/O has been horrible since I switched to Debian.
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947. # [06:30] <jcranmer> well sdds only matter if you can't keep the tree in the file cache
948. # [06:31] <jcranmer> which requires ~4GB of memory
949. # [06:32] <nigelb> which I don't have
950. # [06:32] <nigelb> so it definitely will make a difference.
951. # [06:32] <jcranmer> if you have <6-8GB of memory, changing disks will make a big difference
952. # [06:34] <jesup> it helps a ton in the "grep the tree" case too (even if you have ram, and much more so if you don't have enough to keep the tree in ram - though things like cfind help by only grepping relevant files)
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954. # [06:34] <jesup> philor: thanks
955. # [06:34] * jesup is glad he checked email
956. # [06:35] <philor> me too
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969. # [06:51] <jesup> Who ever saw M10 this green: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=bca6b16c98fb
970. # [06:51] * jesup mutters at that one annoying blue messing it up
971. # [06:52] <jesup> and that was a two-character change...
972. # [06:52] <jesup> and I only needed 1, actually
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1047. # [07:56] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning
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1049. # [07:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2d529d8aa2b - L. David Baron - Bug 975397 - Call TrackImage when constructing a new nsStyleBorder. r=heycam
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1052. # [07:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/abd19a468375 - Brian Birtles - Bug 880596 part 3 - Remove ElementPropertyTransition::IsRunningAt and mIsRunningOnCompositor; r=dbaron
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1210. # [09:21] <@bz> new bugzilla-commenting bot
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1227. # [09:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1c988d5a43d - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 989576 - Followup, stop using mParser->GetEncoding(). r=neil
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1229. # [09:29] <@dbaron> bz, where?
1230. # [09:30] <@dbaron> oh, Firefox Commit Bot
1231. # [09:30] <@dbaron> anyway, n'giht
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1233. # [09:30] <@dbaron> g'night
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1244. # [09:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bd6042e86711 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 984830 - IonMonkey: Ignore unkown types when improving type information at branches, r=jandem
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1247. # [09:37] <glob> does anyone know who owns the 'firefox commit bot' ?
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1249. # [09:37] <glob> i can't find any discussion or announcements regarding it
1250. # [09:37] <glob> and it's rather spammy
1251. # [09:38] <nigelb> where is it?
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1253. # [09:38] <glob> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=user_activity.html&action=run&who=firefoxcommits%40gmail.com&from=2012-01-01&to=2020-01-01&sort=when
1254. # [09:39] <glob> those comments are very verbose, and i'm not sure of the value they bring
1255. # [09:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/33ba8b329896 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
1256. # [09:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/0ee363a8a0df - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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1258. # [09:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/c4dbb3c39b33 - Matthew Noorenberghe - Bug 990387 - Toolbar buttons on the TabsToolbar appear below the nav-bar border with a theme. r=dao
1259. # [09:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/8ce0aa12e00c - Valentin Tsatskin - Bug 968509 - Move about:certerror from components to content. r=Unfocused
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1261. # [09:41] <kats> firebot: seen rbarker
1262. # [09:41] <firebot> rbarker was last seen 6 days, 15 hours, 45 minutes and 47 seconds ago, saying 'I was about to say that' in #mobile.
1263. # [09:41] <Bas> Who might I be able to ask about analyzing some crash dump statistics?
1264. # [09:41] <kats> Bas: what kind of crash dump statistics?
1265. # [09:41] <Bas> kats: I want to know how many people have a 'certain D2D DLL version or higher'
1266. # [09:42] <kats> Bas: bjacob does a lot of that kind of stuff. i can probably do it to, it just requires grepping through the raw crash data
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1268. # [09:42] <kats> s/to/too/
1269. # [09:42] <Bas> kats: No he couldn't he didn't have the module data, apparently that's not in the regular CSV
1270. # [09:43] <kats> Bas: ah in that case probably talk to KaiRo
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1272. # [09:44] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Bas: maybe kairo or chofmann might know
1273. # [09:44] <Bas> Ah, Kairo, yes, that's what Bjacob suggested, now I remember.
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1278. # [09:47] <KWierso|afk> goodnight, Tomcat|sheriffduty, nigelb, Ms2ger :)
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1280. # [09:48] <Ms2ger> Night, KWierso|afk :)
1281. # [09:48] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good night KWierso|afk
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1287. # [09:50] <nigelb> g'nite KWierso|afk
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1290. # [09:52] <glob> heads-up - i've disabled the 'firefox commit bot' account on bmo following concerns over its verbosity. if the owner of that bot appears here, please ask them to contact me so we can work out how to best serve the goals of that bot
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1297. # [09:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glob: aye sir
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1305. # [09:56] <kgrandon> hey.. question about pushing to try, i'm getting this: It looks like the commit range we're trying to push contains merges.
1306. # [09:56] <kgrandon> We do not currently support this; sorry! As a workaround, fold your
1307. # [09:56] <kgrandon> commits.
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1309. # [09:57] <kgrandon> i can push mozilla-central to try no problem, this is when trying to push mozilla-aurora
1310. # [09:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8bdb40bd3103 - Brian Birtles - Bug 964646 part 5 - Add OMTA version of test_animations.html keyframe tests; r=dbaron
1311. # [09:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f5f9279dbaf4 - Brian Birtles - Bug 964646 part 4 - Add OMTA version of test_animations.html animation list tests; r=dbaron
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1313. # [09:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc8ad1175324 - Brian Birtles - Bug 964646 part 1 - Add common OMTA test runner to animation_utils.js; r=dbaron
1314. # [09:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da72761ebf82 - Brian Birtles - Bug 964646 part 2 - Add OMTA version of test_animations.html fill mode tests; r=dbaron
1315. # [09:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/33a00dec3dbd - Brian Birtles - Bug 964646 part 3 - Refactor OMTA test methods to include opacity too; r=dbaron
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1341. # [10:09] <arky> dietrich, ping
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1348. # [10:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/24f5a463b606 - Patrick Brosset - Bug 979292 - Correctly place image tooltip in ruleview after a colorpicker was used; r=harth
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1373. # [10:25] <vlad> any webidl/bindings gurus?
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1377. # [10:25] <Ms2ger> vlad, what's up?
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1380. # [10:26] <vlad> Ms2ger: I'm implementing a new API that returns some webidl-defined objects
1381. # [10:26] <vlad> I create a few of these objects globally (in Gecko).. right now I'm returning those (global) objects to any page that requests them
1382. # [10:26] <vlad> but after the first one, the others are getting permission denied errors when interacting with them
1383. # [10:27] <vlad> sounds like I shouldn't be doing that?
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1385. # [10:27] <vlad> do I need to always create a new object?
1386. # [10:27] <Ms2ger> No :)
1387. # [10:27] <Ms2ger> Your object needs a "home global"
1388. # [10:28] <vlad> ah and that gets set by the first time it's created and goes back through the binding machinery
1389. # [10:28] <Ms2ger> Well, that's what GetParentObject returns
1390. # [10:28] <Ms2ger> You may be returning null now?
1391. # [10:28] <vlad> I am, yeah
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1393. # [10:28] <vlad> I mean I have a nsISupports* aParent arg to my constructors, but I always pass nullptr there
1394. # [10:28] <vlad> because the code I copy-pasted did that :)
1395. # [10:29] <Ms2ger> Yeah, then it picks the global from the first time you get the object, or something
1396. # [10:29] <vlad> ok
1397. # [10:29] <Ms2ger> (What code was that?)
1398. # [10:29] <vlad> (gamepad)
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1400. # [10:29] <vlad> mm, I can just pull out the low level data source into a separate internal class
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1402. # [10:29] <Ms2ger> Ah
1403. # [10:29] <vlad> and then create web-visible objects that reference those
1404. # [10:30] <Ms2ger> You can only get a Gamepad object from... Navigator, I guess, so that works fine
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1406. # [10:30] <vlad> yeah, that's what I'm doing as well
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1408. # [10:30] <Ms2ger> I think that's probably the best approach for global state
1409. # [10:30] <vlad> except I think gamepad constructs each time
1410. # [10:30] <vlad> I don't, right now
1411. # [10:30] <vlad> nod
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1416. # [10:32] <past> Tomcat|sheriffduty: am I right to assume that Cedar is not getting merged to m-c on a continuous basis?
1417. # [10:32] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> past: yep
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1419. # [10:32] <past> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thanks
1420. # [10:32] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> past: we merge m-i, fx-team and b2g-i to m-c
1421. # [10:33] <past> Tomcat|sheriffduty: right, just checking!
1422. # [10:33] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
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1490. # [10:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/08873449ec1e - Panos Astithas - Lazy load modules as much as possible in gDevTools.jsm (bug 986841). r=dcamp
1491. # [10:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/28ac5b562d9f - Panos Astithas - Miscellaneous lazification and cleanups in devtools framework code (bug 986841). r=dcamp
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1562. # [11:04] <nigelb> Ms2ger: hah, I wouldn't mind.
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1566. # [11:04] <Ms2ger> nigelb, for #ateam ? :)
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1568. # [11:04] <nigelb> Ms2ger: ah, that's where it was. yes :)
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1570. # [11:04] <Ms2ger> :)
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1662. # [11:22] <ice9> I compiled and installed an addon manually which prevent TB from start, how do I debug that?
1663. # [11:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/86eb51a6e5a4 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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1686. # [11:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b27234ae13e8 - Tatiana Meshkova - Bug 990869 - Allow to enable sub Apzc for non WIN gecko clients. r=kats
1687. # [11:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/479bf4aa1f97 - Olli Pettay - Bug 991074 - Fix for "Assertion failure: JS_IsExceptionPending(cx), at ./EventListenerBinding.cpp:24". r=bz
1688. # [11:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/08d032cb14a9 - Nils Ohlmeier [:drno] - bug 965656 - properly close() PC's when no longer used. r=jesup
1689. # [11:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c8840a64aa0a - Jan Beich - Bug 986357 - Unbreak --disable-ion in non-unified mode after bug 695438. r=bhackett
1690. # [11:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b59bee4fa90 - Rick Eyre - Bug 879431 - Set VTTCue's TextTrack from TextTrack::AddCue r=rillian
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1693. # [11:37] <IanN> ice9: tried starting TB in safe mode?
1694. # [11:38] <ice9> IanN: yeah safe mode works but how do I find the where the problem is?
1695. # [11:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8cef7a6e9f79 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 989204 part 1 - Add some arrow function tests. r=jorendorff
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1697. # [11:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9517fe15e2c2 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 989204 part 2 - Don't use bound functions for arrow functions. r=jorendorff,bhackett
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1706. # [11:42] <IanN> ice9: have you tried in #thunderbird or #maildev ?
1707. # [11:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/b6ce7327bcab - Heather Arthur - Bug 990672 - Remove query string from linked CSS file path in style editor; r=pbrosset
1708. # [11:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/47ba4bce872f - Jan Beich - Bug 948946 - Use private-browsing indicator with GTK theme on non-Linux as well. r=MattN
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1713. # [11:45] <ice9> IanN: seems everybody sleeping or busy
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1720. # [11:50] <jandem> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hm looks like i broke the windows build, looking into it real quick..
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1729. # [11:52] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jandem: cool thanks!
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1870. # [13:42] <jwatt> how can I find out which addons are using a particular interface?
1871. # [13:43] <Yoric> jwatt: You mean besides searching http://mxr.mozilla.org/addons?
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1876. # [13:43] <jandem> Tomcat|sheriffduty: fwiw, I think the b2g M7 orange is from 08d032cb14a9
1877. # [13:44] <jandem> Tomcat|sheriffduty: it's still running on that push, but it modified that test
1878. # [13:44] <jwatt> Yoric: I possibly mean exactly that
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1880. # [13:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jandem: yeah
1881. # [13:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> will back it out
1882. # [13:45] <Yoric> jwatt: Go me.
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1884. # [13:45] <jwatt> Yoric: how do I figure out what addon corresponds to the number in the results links
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1886. # [13:46] <Yoric> The only way I have found is to look at the manifest of the addons.
1887. # [13:46] <Yoric> There may be a better way.
1888. # [13:47] <jwatt> Yoric: appending the number to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ and loading it seems to work too
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1890. # [13:48] <Yoric> Good idea.
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1896. # [13:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jandem: too bad one of my checkin-needed ones :)
1897. # [13:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/448bccfe7543 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 08d032cb14a9 (bug 965656) for B2G ICS Emulator Opt M7 Test Failures
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1904. # [13:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/c8b35019a239 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 5 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
1905. # [13:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/4798158788ff - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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1914. # [13:55] <jandem> Tomcat|sheriffduty: yeah :(
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1956. # [14:19] <@ehsan> what is "Firefox Commit Bot" and how can we make it stop?!
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1959. # [14:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ehsan: glob|away blocked that account
1960. # [14:20] <@ehsan> \o/
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1962. # [14:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> we don't know from who this bot came
1963. # [14:20] <@ehsan> god knows I don't need to get more bugmail!
1964. # [14:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> but the comments were a little verbose :)
1965. # [14:20] <@ehsan> and a little useless
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1970. # [14:21] * @ehsan goes back to marking the rest of his 7794 unread bugmails as read
1971. # [14:21] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
1972. # [14:21] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ehsan: 00:51 < glob> heads-up - i've disabled the 'firefox commit bot' account on bmo following concerns over its verbosity. if the owner of that bot appears here, please ask them to contact me so we can work out how to best serve the goals of that bot
1973. # [14:21] <@ehsan> hope a comment on every bug that gets fixed won't be the solution ;)
1974. # [14:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
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1978. # [14:25] <jandem> ah great, it was annoying. And that explains why it didn't comment on all bugs..
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1987. # [14:33] <@smaug> was the commit bot annoying?
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1990. # [14:34] <@smaug> the only annoying aspect was to get pinged here when commit messages had r=<your nick>
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1992. # [14:35] <idwer> some projects have a #<project name>-commits channel ;)
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2001. # [14:41] <jandem> smaug: not firebot, there was some kind of bot commenting in bugzilla whenever a bug was merged to m-c
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2020. # [14:50] <@smaug> ah
2021. # [14:51] <@smaug> hmm, so we don't get m-c changeset id in bugs anymore?
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2024. # [14:53] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> smaug: oh we have
2025. # [14:53] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> there was a seperate bot today
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2027. # [14:54] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> smaug: see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=user_activity.html&action=run&who=firefoxcommits%40gmail.com&from=2012-01-01&to=2020-01-01&sort=when
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2029. # [14:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> no clue who was doing this - at least the glob blocked the account
2030. # [14:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> was NO sheriff bot or so :)
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2033. # [14:55] <@smaug> ah, this one https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=984269#c9
2034. # [14:55] <@smaug> ok, that would be annoying
2035. # [14:56] <@smaug> but possibly useful
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2041. # [14:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> tzimmermann: ping
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2043. # [14:59] <tzimmermann> Tomcat|sheriffduty: pong
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2046. # [14:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey tzimmermann could https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37213526&tree=B2g-Inbound be related to your push to b2g-i
2047. # [14:59] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> just wondering. this seems to happen in the bluetooth area
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2052. # [15:01] <tzimmermann> Tomcat|sheriffduty: probably
2053. # [15:01] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> retriggered this test now
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2057. # [15:02] <tzimmermann> Tomcat|sheriffduty: i pushed 972249 removed a workaround because the bug is thought to be fixed. but if it's still there, gecko might crash
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2059. # [15:03] <digitsm> Hello
2060. # [15:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
2061. # [15:04] <tzimmermann> Tomcat|sheriffduty: that's not exactly what i was hoping for ;)
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2063. # [15:04] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> tzimmermann: yeah looks somehow like this are crashes maybe in marionette
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2067. # [15:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> tzimmermann: also follwing push has now a orange mnw test
2068. # [15:05] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> so i guess its a permament failure in mnw
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2071. # [15:06] <tzimmermann> Tomcat|sheriffduty: maybe rolling back bug 972249 makes sense. we tought this has been fixed, but now it doesn't like that's the case.
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2073. # [15:06] <tzimmermann> 'look like'
2074. # [15:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah i backout Bug 972249
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2077. # [15:06] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> err i can backout i mean :)
2078. # [15:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> closing b2g-i now for this
2079. # [15:07] <tzimmermann> Tomcat|sheriffduty: ok, thanks. sorry about this
2080. # [15:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> np :)
2081. # [15:07] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> thats what we are here for :)
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2091. # [15:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/c809fe4b8fba - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 3ad927b99e82 (bug 972249) for permanent test failure in marionette on a CLOSED TREE
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2101. # [15:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce4b890505d1 - Patrick McManus - bug 968417 - revalidating images needs loadgroup parent for spdy push r=seth
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2103. # [15:15] <digitsm> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Do you remember my problem with FF issuing "Segmentation Fault" error?
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2106. # [15:16] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> digitsm: yeah and the "does not happen in safe-mode" thing right ? :)
2107. # [15:16] <digitsm> This error doesn't occur in safe-mode. But when in normal mode, with all addons disable, this error occurs again
2108. # [15:16] <digitsm> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Yeah
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2110. # [15:17] <digitsm> very weird!!!
2111. # [15:17] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> digitsm: could you try to reproduce with a new profile (https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-and-remove-firefox-profiles)
2112. # [15:17] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> if the new profile is fine it could be a problem with your current profile like setting or so
2113. # [15:18] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> or about:config etry etc
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2115. # [15:18] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> entry
2116. # [15:18] <digitsm> I disabled addons one by one, until all addons disabled. I also used a new session (only 4 tabs containing Yahoo articles). But it closes suddenly with that error again
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2124. # [15:21] <digitsm> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I confirm that I changed some about:config entries before, but I knew what I was doing
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2126. # [15:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/aec6bf932306 - Simone Bruno - Bug 991203 - mozconfig file to be used for B2G linux64 desktop debug builds. r=aki, a=NPOTB
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2150. # [15:35] <jdm> ooh, firefox commit bot
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2153. # [15:37] <digitsm> Sorry
2154. # [15:38] <digitsm> I think I got disconnected
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2157. # [15:39] <digitsm> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Hello again
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2159. # [15:39] <digitsm> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I tested -safe-mode again. This time I got "segmentation fault" even in safe-mode
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2163. # [15:40] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> digitsm: maybe a stack trace and a bug report with steps to reproduce would be useful , see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/How_to_get_a_stacktrace_for_a_bug_report
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2167. # [15:41] <digitsm> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I have many plugins installed too, many of them old
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2169. # [15:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/a8b512cb029e - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
2170. # [15:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/e2e287901e1f - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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2174. # [15:45] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> digitsm: well its always good to be on the lastest plugins and addons
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2176. # [15:45] <digitsm> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I really don't know how some of them got installed. I have plugins below:
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2180. # [15:47] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> digitsm: maybe the guys over #firefox might know the problem, there more of a support channel i guess
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2182. # [15:48] <digitsm> 1. IcedTea-Web Plugin (using IcedTea-Web 1.3.2 (1.3.2-1)) 2. iTunes Application Detector 3. MozPlugger 1.14.5 handles QuickTime and Windows Media Player 4. Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 5. Skype Buttons for Kopete
2183. # [15:48] <digitsm> Tomcat|sheriffduty: I sought help in #firefox one time, but never replied !!!
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2196. # [15:55] <Alessar> Hello. One question. I run c:\mozillabuild\start-msvc11.bat with my studio 2012, but cl.exe have major version 15. It seems from studio 2009. Anybody knows what I should change in config if I want get correct version of compiler?
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2203. # [15:58] <idwer> Alessar: I can take a look, if you point me to the gitweb/hgweb url
2204. # [15:59] <RyanVM> jdm: yeah, that bot's....something...
2205. # [15:59] <jdm> ha
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2212. # [16:01] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: glob disabled the account and so far the owner hasn't complained here :)
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2214. # [16:02] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: lulz
2215. # [16:02] <RyanVM> so somebody just set that up for shits and giggles?
2216. # [16:02] <RyanVM> wow
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2219. # [16:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> RyanVM: no clue was first thinking this one offical thing but didn't found anything like a discussion or annoucement
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2230. # [16:05] <Alessar> idwer: What information I should provide to You?
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2232. # [16:05] <RyanVM> Alessar: did you see my note in #build?
2233. # [16:06] <jdm> RyanVM: huh, I assumed that was a new sheriff tool o.o
2234. # [16:06] <RyanVM> leave us out of it :P
2235. # [16:06] <Tomcat> jdm: hah, sheriffs were innocent this time !
2236. # [16:06] <RyanVM> I was a bit suspicious at it being a gmail address
2237. # [16:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d2c0858051bc - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
2238. # [16:07] <Yoric> It's not a real firefox commit bot?
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2240. # [16:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/378f4ab1e4f7 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
2241. # [16:08] <RyanVM> Yoric: apparently not :P
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2245. # [16:08] <Alessar> RyanVM: Yes. I try to update mozillabuild. But I am not sure that I get happiness after it.
2246. # [16:08] <Tomcat> Yoric: you know we are your commit bots :)
2247. # [16:09] <RyanVM> Alessar: I assume you have an older MSVC installed somewhere?
2248. # [16:09] <RyanVM> Alessar: Because that sounds like a franken-install to me
2249. # [16:09] <RyanVM> Alessar: MozillaBuild uses registry keys for determining which version is installed
2250. # [16:10] <RyanVM> (see guess.msvc.bat)
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2252. # [16:10] <RyanVM> guess-msvc.bat rather
2253. # [16:10] <Tomcat> oh btw RyanVM i use now your 1.9rc for building and testing
2254. # [16:10] <RyanVM> cool, it went final today
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2265. # [16:15] <Alessar> RyanVM: Yes. I have 2 version of studio.
2266. # [16:15] <Alessar> I see guess-msvc.bat and put some comments to this file (where it get version of previous version of studio). But after run start-msvc11.bat I get the same version of compiler (15).
2267. # [16:15] <Alessar> On official site I see information that current version of mozzillabuild have 1.8.0 number. And 1.9.0pre have bug.
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2269. # [16:16] <RyanVM> Alessar: 1.9.0 went final today
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2271. # [16:16] <RyanVM> which site are you looking at?
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2277. # [16:19] <Alessar> RyanVM: https://wiki.mozilla.org/MozillaBuild#Release_Notes
2278. # [16:19] <Alessar> Where I can get the latest version?
2279. # [16:19] <RyanVM> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/libraries/win32/MozillaBuildSetup-Latest.exe
2280. # [16:19] <RyanVM> i'll update the wiki now :)
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2282. # [16:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/c9e95530ee00 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
2283. # [16:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/fabadd2f8055 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
2284. # [16:20] <RyanVM> Alessar: thanks for the reminder :)
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2289. # [16:23] <Alessar> RyanVM: Thanks for latest build :-)
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2291. # [16:24] <RyanVM> Alessar: do let me know if it helps
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2293. # [16:25] <bagder> "IE11 now offers an Enterprise Mode feature, which allows IT administrators to deploy a list of sites which should run in IE8-Compatibility mode"
2294. # [16:25] <bagder> and the web is getting even better... :-/
2295. # [16:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9abb2a6237c1 - Wan-Teh Chang - Bug 849085: Update to NSPR_4_10_5_BETA3. Also includes fixes for
2296. # [16:26] <Alessar> RyanVM: Ok
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2300. # [16:31] <jryans> RyanVM: does "remove old mozilla-build" mean "delete the dir" or is there an uninstall?
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2302. # [16:31] <RyanVM> jryans: just delete the dir
2303. # [16:31] <RyanVM> it's a stand-alone install
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2312. # [16:36] <Alessar> RyanVM: One advise. I install 1.9 over 1.8 (in the same folder). And I got error about could not remove msys-1.0.dll (in process of installation). Maybe installer should check close for example ssh-agent.exe?
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2315. # [16:36] <RyanVM> Alessar: maybe, but you're also explicitly warned about that :P
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2322. # [16:39] <Alessar> Unfortunately installer did not ask me about it. It fails and show me only error about msys-1.0.dll and nothing.
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2326. # [16:40] <RyanVM> Alessar: it's in the release announcement
2327. # [16:40] <RyanVM> it's been a pretty standard warning for some time now
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2333. # [16:44] <Alessar> RyanVM: "release announcement" - is this a big text on first page of installer?
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2336. # [16:45] <RyanVM> no, the dev-platform post linked from the wiki you mentioned earlier
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2347. # [16:53] <Alessar> RyanVM: Unfortunately I cannot find this announcement
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2350. # [16:53] <RyanVM> Alessar: https://wiki.mozilla.org/MozillaBuild#Release_Notes - click " MozillaBuild 1.9.0 "
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2352. # [16:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/26b3c6a09526 - Bevis Tseng - Bug 990368 - Add corresponding test case to verify error cases in sending MMS. r=vyang
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2354. # [16:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/99d07c57a142 - Ethan Tseng - Bug 990862 - [RTSP] Rename RtspChannel to RtspChannelChild. r=sworkman
2355. # [16:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/71190df41146 - Bevis Tseng - Bug 990368 - [B2G][MMS][DSDS] Feedback NonActiveSimError if send an MMS with non active SIM selected. r=vyang
2356. # [16:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/ae66a100d164 - Dimi Lee - Bug 991499 - WifiWorker still try to send message to component which is already shutdown. r=vchang
2357. # [16:54] <RyanVM> jesup: ping
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2363. # [16:55] <gcp> RyanVM: bug 969395?
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2365. # [16:55] <RyanVM> gcp: hah
2366. # [16:55] <RyanVM> yes indeed :P
2367. # [16:55] <RyanVM> gcp: trying to make sense of that
2368. # [16:55] <gcp> I'll reply in the bug
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2380. # [17:01] <RyanVM> gcp: did you intend to remove the checkin-needed too?
2381. # [17:01] <gcp> yes
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2383. # [17:01] <gcp> interesting you saw that, I don't see it in my bugmail
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2385. # [17:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/234d50648ad1 - Vincent Liu - Bug 983022 - [tarako] Need minidump screen shot. r=ted, r=gal
2386. # [17:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5cd9ae69c171 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 988800 - Catch and ignore situations where we try to composite on a destroyed LayerRenderer instance. r=Cwiiis
2387. # [17:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9d5889fd337 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 991038 - Uncaught async error in DownloadIntegration.jsm. r=paolo
2388. # [17:02] <RyanVM> gcp: i query for checkin-neededs
2389. # [17:03] <gcp> RyanVM: I'm just surprised it didn't show in the mail from bugzilla that I cleared it.
2390. # [17:03] <RyanVM> you didn't
2391. # [17:03] <gcp> oh
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2393. # [17:03] <RyanVM> but I don't want it on my queries either
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2396. # [17:03] <gcp> I'm still writing the comment explaining why i'm removing it :P
2397. # [17:03] <gcp> was confused here
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2400. # [17:04] <RyanVM> gcp: I already removed it
2401. # [17:04] <gcp> Mid-air collision detected!
2402. # [17:05] <RyanVM> heh
2403. # [17:05] <RyanVM> :D
2404. # [17:05] <Yoric> Back to good old RyanVM-bot.
2405. # [17:05] <RyanVM> Yoric: \m/
2406. # [17:05] <Alessar> RyanVM: Thanks. I've found it.
2407. # [17:05] <RyanVM> Alessar: wonderful
2408. # [17:06] <RyanVM> mikedeboer: ping
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2414. # [17:10] <Alessar> RyanVM: I run clobber (as i see in this announcement). After that run mach configure. And got the same error with unsupported 15 version compilier. :-(
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2416. # [17:10] <RyanVM> Alessar: what are your MSVC install paths?
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2419. # [17:11] <RyanVM> (i'll note that we still call vcvars32.bat to set the MSVC paths, so it might not be entirely mozillabuild's fault)
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2427. # [17:15] <Alessar> "c:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0"
2428. # [17:15] <Alessar> "c:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0"
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2436. # [17:17] <Alessar> Where I can find this vcvars32.bat ?
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2439. # [17:18] <RyanVM> VC\bin in your MSVC install dir
2440. # [17:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/8fdd82231243 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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2446. # [17:20] <RyanVM> Alessar: but guess-msvc.bat doesn't even look for older than msvc2010 anymore, so I'm not sure how it's ending up with MSVC 2008 in the path
2447. # [17:20] <RyanVM> unless
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2449. # [17:20] <RyanVM> do you have it in your Windows path to begin with?
2450. # [17:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a1cdcb8ea27 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 991618 - IonMonkey: Set AliasSet on MBail, r=nbp
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2462. # [17:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/d53cc3ad38ec - Victor Porof - Bug 991392 - Make the separator between the watch expressions and variables view visible in the debugger, r=past
2463. # [17:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/a17657a71b01 - Victor Porof - Bug 991376 - The variables inspection popup shouldn't opening when hovering js literals, r=past
2464. # [17:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/312c314e230b - Victor Porof - Bug 991175 - Headers values in the netmonitor sidepane are very hard to read and copy after clicking on them, r=msucan
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2472. # [17:27] <Alessar> RyanVM: In %path% ? No, I have not.
2473. # [17:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/60a470a36779 - Panos Astithas - Fix a typo in error reporting when attaching to the tracer (bug 989627). r=vporof
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2486. # [17:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/013c4b1e63d2 - Brian Hackett - Bug 989503 - Recover cleanly after OOM while adding type object properties, r=jandem.
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2488. # [17:31] <Alessar> 1. I run cmd. I run cl. I get "unrecognized command".
2489. # [17:31] <Alessar> 2. I run "start-shell-msvc2012.bat".I run cl. And get 17 version of cl (!!!)
2490. # [17:31] <Alessar> 3. But after run "mach configure" I get error about 15 version of cl.
2491. # [17:31] <Alessar> I am confused...
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2496. # [17:34] <idwer> there is a 'command prompt' in the 'visual studio tools' folder
2497. # [17:34] <idwer> on vs2008, at least
2498. # [17:35] <RyanVM> Alessar: so am I :(
2499. # [17:35] <gcp> mbrubeck: hahahahah!
2500. # [17:35] <RyanVM> Alessar: and you completely deleted your objdir?
2501. # [17:35] <gcp> mbrubeck: the song is perfect
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2505. # [17:37] <philor> RyanVM: you're on fire, too
2506. # [17:37] <RyanVM> haha
2507. # [17:37] <RyanVM> dammit, I saw that include and wondered what would happen elsewhere
2508. # [17:37] * RyanVM blames ted for giving that an r+
2509. # [17:38] <@ted> which?
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2511. # [17:39] <Alessar> RyanVM: As I say previous, before it I run "mach clobber" and it command remove my objdir
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2515. # [17:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e6531852947f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 234d50648ad1 (bug 983022) for non-Linux build bustage.
2516. # [17:39] <RyanVM> ted ^
2517. # [17:40] <RyanVM> Alessar: I'm sorry, I have no idea what mach is doing in that case :(
2518. # [17:40] <RyanVM> ted: lol, it broke on some linux builds as well
2519. # [17:40] <RyanVM> failtastic
2520. # [17:40] <RyanVM> ted: but whodathunk that a linux/fb.h include wouldn't go over so well on !linux
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2522. # [17:41] <@ted> *sigh*
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2529. # [17:43] <mbrubeck> gcp: :)
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2573. # [18:06] <Alessar> RyanVM: What difference between files "configure" and "configure.in" in root folder?
2574. # [18:06] <RyanVM> configure is generated from configure.in
2575. # [18:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/cd8fed951743 - Robert Strong - Bug 982448 - some fxmetro pref's still being left behind with values without --enable-metro in the mozconfig. r=bbondy, a=sledru
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2585. # [18:11] <Alessar> RyanVM: I rename bin folder (in msvsc 9.0) and got error: "d:/work/FireFoxOS/sourceTHREE/configure: line 3281: cl: command not found".
2586. # [18:11] <Alessar> Looks like wrong folder is set in this file "configure"
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2589. # [18:12] <RyanVM> Alessar: you can safely remove it
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2593. # [18:14] <Alessar> RyanVM: remove folder or file "configure" ?
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2596. # [18:15] <idwer> the former
2597. # [18:16] <RyanVM> Alessar: you can safely remove configure, it will be regenerated
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2643. # [18:38] <Alessar> At first I am confusing that file use short name of path.
2644. # [18:38] <Alessar> At second It means that path is set in this file.
2645. # [18:38] <RyanVM> Alessar: ahah
2646. # [18:39] <RyanVM> interesting
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2681. # [19:04] <jesup> RyanVM: We're on the track to solving (or at least papering over) the #2 orange (canplaythrough)
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2683. # [19:04] <jesup> Who knew starting an audio device on B2G emulator could take 20 seconds(!)
2684. # [19:05] <jesup> :-/
2685. # [19:05] <RyanVM> wow
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2688. # [19:06] <Alessar> RyanVM: Looks like ./client.mk have the same path with wrong directory at the point
2689. # [19:06] <Alessar> "configure:: $(configure-preqs)"
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2739. # [19:31] <jcranmer|away> lol, google groups thinks bhearsum's message to m.d.planning is written in Maori
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2761. # [19:42] <firebot> Check-in:
2762. # [19:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/31f35431afd3 - L. David Baron - Bug 989130 - Back out changeset fe119a83b1f2 (bug 942017) while leaving the corresponding test from changeset 3c63decb4e7e. r=jfkthame approval-mozilla-beta=sylvestre
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2766. # [19:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85aebd2f14a5 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 991512: Add convenience methods to calculate outer main & cross size of a FlexItem. r=mats
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2781. # [19:53] * @ehsan wonders whether he should enter the comm-central in m-c debate
2782. # [19:53] <@ted> nope nope nope
2783. # [19:53] <jcranmer|away> sigh
2784. # [19:54] <jcranmer|away> I'm going to have a fun time when I get back to my computer
2785. # [19:54] * edmorley|mtg is now known as edmorley
2786. # [19:54] <@ehsan> I think given that I have filed at least one bug about it, it should be clear I'm in favor
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2789. # [19:54] <@ehsan> but I have no strong arguments either way
2790. # [19:54] <catlee> why not keep it as a separate, but merged, repo?
2791. # [19:54] <@ehsan> jcranmer|away: not as "fun" as you worry :)
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2794. # [19:54] <jcranmer|away> catlee: see my reply to bsmedberg
2795. # [19:55] <jcranmer|away> basically, it makes it really hard to do patches that affect both mozilla-central and comm-central
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2798. # [19:55] <jcranmer|away> that is, I think, the fourth time I've answered that question
2799. # [19:55] <Ms2ger> I really don't think permanent forks are useful for anybody
2800. # [19:55] <jcranmer|away> Thunderbird isn't really a fork of gecko
2801. # [19:56] <jcranmer|away> which is what makes it more complicated than, say, Tor's fork
2802. # [19:56] <Ms2ger> Right, so I don't see why we'd model it like that
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2804. # [19:56] <mjrosenb> ../../../build/unix/gold/ld: internal error in override_version, at ../../gold/resolve.cc:61
2805. # [19:56] <mjrosenb> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
2806. # [19:56] <mjrosenb> this i going to be a fun day.
2807. # [19:56] <jcranmer|away> arguably, it's not the best way to have designed the project
2808. # [19:56] <Ms2ger> I'm all in favour of just dumping it all into m-c, myself
2809. # [19:57] <jcranmer|away> but this is the result of decisions made essentially 20 years ago
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2812. # [19:57] <@bsmedberg> 1994? I think not ;-)
2813. # [19:57] <Ms2ger> Too late?
2814. # [19:57] <jcranmer|away> what was the first version of Netscape that included the mail client?
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2820. # [20:00] <jcranmer|away> whenever that was
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2823. # [20:01] <jgraham> Netscape 2 in 1995
2824. # [20:01] <@gavin> jcranmer|away: seems like it doesn't make things any worse than they are today
2825. # [20:01] <jgraham> So 1994 is really about right if you are counting from then
2826. # [20:01] <@gavin> you need to land the gecko changes first, then merge them in, then land c-c changes
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2831. # [20:02] <decoder> hm I just noticed that aurora in privacy mode now shows my history from normal browser mode
2832. # [20:02] <decoder> is that intended?
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2834. # [20:02] <decoder> i dont think so
2835. # [20:02] <@gavin> it is
2836. # [20:02] <Ms2ger> It adds the joys of merge conflicts
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2840. # [20:03] <decoder> gavin: is there a way to disable that? I always used ff private mode for demo purposes
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2842. # [20:03] <@gavin> Ms2ger: how does it make merge conflicts any worse?
2843. # [20:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ffbc1fea7834 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 967296 - Remove diagnostic code added in bug 946929. r=tn
2844. # [20:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5c7349ece19 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 990655 - Don't apply 'text-overflow' to nsComboboxControlFrame, its anon block deals with it. r=roc
2845. # [20:03] <@gavin> (than the status quo)
2846. # [20:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c4956ed379f7 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 991069 - Optimize MPostWriteBarrier OOL path to not save non-volatile regs. r=terrence
2847. # [20:03] <Ms2ger> That you now have them?
2848. # [20:04] <mbrubeck> Does "360 Safe Browser" really have 5% share of US desktop pageviews, or is StatCounter on crack? http://gs.statcounter.com/#desktop-browser-US-daily-20140304-20140402
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2850. # [20:04] <@gavin> you never change gecko in tb-central, you only change mail/
2851. # [20:04] <@ehsan> jwalker++
2852. # [20:04] <@ehsan> for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=953166#c33
2853. # [20:04] <Ms2ger> gavin, that's not the plan AIUI
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2855. # [20:05] <jwalker> :)
2856. # [20:05] <@gavin> Ms2ger: bsmedberg is suggesting a different plan
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2858. # [20:05] <@ehsan> decoder: no
2859. # [20:05] <@ehsan> decoder: you want a new profile for that
2860. # [20:06] <decoder> hrm ok :/
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2863. # [20:07] <jcranmer|away> gavin: the existence of a single repository gives the illusion of an atomicity that doesn't actually exist
2864. # [20:07] <jcranmer|away> gavin: it is also makes it extremely difficult to test it
2865. # [20:07] <jcranmer|away> since I have to make the commit in c-c, cherry-pick changes for m-c, land *that*, wait for merge, then land a cherry-picked changeset as well
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2867. # [20:08] <@gavin> you don't need to merge m-c in continously
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2870. # [20:09] <@gavin> I don't understand the scenario you're describing
2871. # [20:09] <jcranmer|away> suppose I make a change to moz.build syntax
2872. # [20:09] * geekboy is now known as geekboy|afk
2873. # [20:09] <jcranmer|away> that requires me to mass-change m-c and c-c
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2875. # [20:09] <jcranmer|away> in the merge-into-m-c scenario, I can just get review on that patch and land it
2876. # [20:09] <@gavin> when you pull in the m-c portions of that change, you also land the c-c portions
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2878. # [20:09] <jcranmer|away> in the alternative scenario, I have to:
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2880. # [20:10] <jcranmer|away> 1. Run and test in my local comm-central clone
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2882. # [20:10] <jcranmer|away> 2. Split the patch into m-c-only and c-c-only patches
2883. # [20:10] <jcranmer|away> 3. land the m-c-only patch
2884. # [20:10] <jcranmer|away> 4. wait
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2886. # [20:11] <jcranmer|away> 5. land c-c-only patch
2887. # [20:11] <@gavin> I'm not saying bsmedberg's proposal makes things easier for you, it clearly doesn't
2888. # [20:11] <@gavin> but we're not just optimizing for making things easy for you
2889. # [20:11] <jcranmer|away> it is distinctly worse than the current scenario
2890. # [20:11] <@gavin> "the current scenario" is you have two separate repos and you need to follow the same steps of splitting the patches, right?
2891. # [20:11] <@gavin> so it's no worse
2892. # [20:11] <jcranmer|away> no
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2894. # [20:12] <jcranmer|away> in the current scenario, I can hg qref without knowing which repository I'm in
2895. # [20:12] <jcranmer|away> with your scenario, I have one repository
2896. # [20:12] <jcranmer|away> and I have to be very careful to see if the current patch is the m-c patch or the c-c patch
2897. # [20:12] <@bsmedberg> not until you submit them
2898. # [20:12] <jcranmer|away> suppose I have review comments
2899. # [20:12] <jcranmer|away> and need to update the patches
2900. # [20:12] <@bsmedberg> you can mix them, and then at the end `hg qref -X mail -X blah`
2901. # [20:14] <jcranmer|away> it basically requires anyone who wants to do cross-repository commits to go through crazy steps
2902. # [20:14] <@gavin> doesn't sound like crazy steps to me
2903. # [20:14] <@gavin> and also that scenario doesn't seem one worth optimizing for
2904. # [20:15] <jcranmer|away> it also ruins one of the advantages of the single repo:
2905. # [20:15] <jcranmer|away> we can avoid bustages due to things like package manifest changes
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2907. # [20:16] <tbsaunde> gavin: if you work on gecko its all that uncommon and I'd probably do more of it if it were easier
2908. # [20:16] <jcranmer|away> one of the goals of this project is to minimize the maintenance burden of Thunderbird
2909. # [20:16] <tbsaunde> which by the way would be useful for m-c as well
2910. # [20:17] <jcranmer|away> making it easier to cross-commit between c-c and m-c definitely helps that goal
2911. # [20:17] <@gavin> minimizing the maintenance burden of thunderbird is fine, as long as it comes with no cost to Firefox or Gecko
2912. # [20:17] <@gavin> the merging proposal has a cost to Firefox and Gecko
2913. # [20:17] <tbsaunde> jcranmer|away: tbf I think you could probably solve that particular issue with #include or beating glandium into making package manafests less important
2914. # [20:17] <jcranmer|away> I don't consider the size of the repository to be a cost
2915. # [20:17] <@gavin> well, I think most would disagree with you there :)
2916. # [20:17] <jcranmer|away> it's moving up any pain points in repository size only by about a year
2917. # [20:17] <@gavin> and in any case it's not the only cost
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2919. # [20:18] <jcranmer|away> we landed ICU months before FF actually used at all
2920. # [20:18] <tbsaunde> gavin: what other costs do you see?
2921. # [20:18] <jcranmer|away> and that certainly bloats the size of mozilla-central by roughly similar amounts
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2923. # [20:19] <@gavin> benjamin's post lays them out nicely
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2925. # [20:19] <@gavin> jcranmer|away: ICU has value to Firefox
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2928. # [20:20] <jcranmer|away> gavin: the code confusion is not an issue, I disagree on necessity, and the other comment was about the size
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2930. # [20:20] <@gavin> you keep saying "these issues you point out are not issues"
2931. # [20:20] <jesup> We landed webrtc in the tree a good 4-5 months before we had most of it hooked up (and 6+ before it was enabled by default in nightly). And that added 500K lines (and later 200K more) in m-c
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2933. # [20:20] <@gavin> I do not agree with you
2934. # [20:20] <@gavin> and just saying it over and over again isn't really going to convince me :)
2935. # [20:20] <jcranmer|away> let me put it like this
2936. # [20:20] <tbsaunde> gavin: I agree with whoevers argument against bsmedberg's #1 and #3 doesn't seem to be a reason *to* do any particular thing
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2939. # [20:21] <jcranmer|away> everyone I've talked to who worries about not breaking comm-central has been in favor of the merge
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2941. # [20:22] <@gavin> yeah, I'm sure
2942. # [20:22] * @bsmedberg wonders if that's the real question at hand
2943. # [20:22] <@bsmedberg> since "not breaking comm-central" is not a clear goal
2944. # [20:22] <@gavin> right
2945. # [20:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/c83087596cfb - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
2946. # [20:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/9d112045f203 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 1 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
2947. # [20:23] * khuey is now known as khuey|away
2948. # [20:23] <jcranmer|away> the future trend of development in Mozilla implies that the size costs of comm-central will tend to shrink relative to that of non-comm-central code
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2950. # [20:24] <jcranmer|away> when I first investigated the size differences 2 years ago, comm-central was slightly more than 10% the size of mozilla-central; now, it's distinctly less
2951. # [20:24] <@gavin> it won't shrink in absolute terms
2952. # [20:24] <@ted> bsmedberg: well, since we've ostensibly committed to supporting security releases of thunderbird, not breaking it is a requirement of that
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2954. # [20:24] <jcranmer|away> well, the on-disk checkout certainly could
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2958. # [20:25] <jcranmer|away> as we get rid of crufty code and move things to terser languages
2959. # [20:25] * justindarc is now known as justindarc|lunch
2960. # [20:25] <davidb> ted: did we?
2961. # [20:25] <jcranmer|away> davidb: yes
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2963. # [20:25] <davidb> TIL
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2965. # [20:26] <davidb> i mean i knew we cared i just didn't know officially
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2967. # [20:26] <jcranmer|away> we care enough to pay people to do the maintenance releases
2968. # [20:26] <davidb> cool
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2971. # [20:27] <jcranmer|away> I did think about possible implementation strategies before proposing this as the way to do cc-rework
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2975. # [20:29] <jcranmer|away> I came to the conclusion that the way I presented it was the only effective solution
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2977. # [20:31] <brson> how do i reset the "New Tab" page or add a site to the grid? I accidentally deleted hn and can no longer cope
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2987. # [20:35] <KWierso|afk> brson: you can drag in the address bar favicon of some site from another window into the new tab page
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2991. # [20:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d75416f21916 - Myk Melez - Bug 968129 - Load initial tab in WebappImpl:loadStartupTab. r=mfinkle, a=sledru
2992. # [20:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f8fe0bdeb823 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 919208 - Rewrite test_bug668513.html to run in its own window so that it won't be able to navigate the test runner frame back. r=bzbarsky, a=test-only
2993. # [20:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/071d2fbd0caa - Anthony Lam - Bug 970213 - Replace icon with custom design. r=wesj, a=sledru
2994. # [20:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/87251be46cc7 - Luke Wagner - Bug 983448 - Fix masm.convertUInt32ToFloat32 on x86. r=bbouvier, a=sledru
2995. # [20:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7be328110c45 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 990202 - Move the test page to a new window to prevent it from navigating the test runner frame back. r=bzbarsky, a=test-only
2996. # [20:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d0da2733724d - Mike Hommey - Bug 984447 - Properly handle forks in mozjemalloc after bug 694896. r=smichaud, a=sledru
2997. # [20:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b5185eeba69d - Cameron McCormack - Bug 989965 - Resolve style for pseudo-elements correctly when style rules that have user action pseudo-classes on them are present. r=bzbarsky, a=sledru
2998. # [20:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/cc734bdf4e41 - Randy Lin - Bug 912627 - Remove spurious assertion. r=cpearce, a=sledru
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3000. # [20:38] <brson> KWierso: thanks, that worked!
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3017. # [20:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/198eb23cba8f - Bill McCloskey - Bug 989504 - [e10s] Disable test_window_open_position_constraint.html in e10s (r=roc)
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3021. # [20:50] <billm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ping
3022. # [20:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> billm: pong
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3025. # [20:50] <billm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I'm seeing e10s jobs here without &showall=1: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=aec6bf932306
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3027. # [20:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> billm: yes
3028. # [20:51] <billm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: do you know why?
3029. # [20:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> they never ran on m-c before
3030. # [20:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so they never had a chance to be hidden
3031. # [20:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> once the linux32 m1 job finishes, I'll hide them all
3032. # [20:51] <billm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: oh, so the hidden list for different branches is different?
3033. # [20:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yes
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3036. # [20:52] <billm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok, thanks. also, I just checked in a fix for the M-4 orange. I still need to figure out the PGO stuff.
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3054. # [20:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3bd335914852 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 977126 Part 1 -- Changes to arm to support subPtr(Register,Address) r=mjrosenb
3055. # [20:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d87a13b71afc - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 977126 Part 2 -- Changes to x86/x64 to support subPtr(Register,Address) r=jandem
3056. # [20:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2daa537b62e6 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 977126 Part 3 -- Inline SetTypedObjectOffset intrinsic r=shu
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3069. # [21:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> billm: btw, linux32 pgo is green on m-c
3070. # [21:04] <billm> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah, I misread. it's linux64 that's broken, not PGO.
3071. # [21:05] <billm> I wonder why though
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3118. # [21:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> rstrong: mochitest-bc doesn't like your beta push
3119. # [21:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> rstrong: on Windows
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3122. # [21:24] <rstrong> RyanVM|sheriffduty: could you back me out and I'll look at it later?
3123. # [21:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> rstrong: k
3124. # [21:24] <rstrong> thanks!
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3127. # [21:24] <Ms2ger> Interesting
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3129. # [21:25] <Ms2ger> "me" has reviewed more patches in 2013 than dbaron or bsmedberg
3130. # [21:25] <@bsmedberg> that's good!
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3133. # [21:26] <philor> he's a busy one, me is
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3213. # [21:51] <mcsmurf> wtf :D
3214. # [21:51] <mcsmurf> ooh
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3216. # [21:51] <mcsmurf> wow, Mozilla Persona login is confusing
3217. # [21:51] <mcsmurf> I had cookies disabled in Firefox
3218. # [21:52] <mcsmurf> and it told me: Your browser is not supported
3219. # [21:52] <mcsmurf> when using FF :-)
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3223. # [21:52] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: ping
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3235. # [21:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ejpbruel: pong
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3244. # [21:59] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: i have a failing b2g test which I *think* is not caused by my patch, but im not sure
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3249. # [21:59] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: care to take a look at my try run? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=4f1c1a0aeb6d
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3262. # [22:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ejpbruel: that looks infra-ish
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3267. # [22:02] <ckitching> ejpbruel: Why not retrigger it and find out?
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3271. # [22:02] <ckitching> (Assuming you have access - select the failed test, and click the ridiculously tiny small blue cross in the top right corner of the bottom left box that appears)
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3275. # [22:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/072687c58007 - ffxbld - Automated checkin: version bump for firefox 29.0b5 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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3292. # [22:05] <ejpbruel> ckitching: as you can see, i did retrigger it :)
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3294. # [22:05] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: ok, so I can attempt to land?
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3297. # [22:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ejpbruel: what's the patch?
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3312. # [22:08] <ckitching> ejpbruel: I'd check if I had internet that could load tbpl in under 20 minutes. :P
3313. # [22:09] <ckitching> I yearn for something as performant as 2G.
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3317. # [22:09] <ckitching> And ping times smaller than 19 seconds. :P
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3321. # [22:09] <ckitching> Well, actually, i lie, ping times aren't too awful from here, oddly.
3322. # [22:09] <ckitching> I digress.
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3348. # [22:18] <ejpbruel> RyanVM: as in, you want to see a pastebin of the diff?
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3354. # [22:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07eb968c0c5a - Jed Davis - Bug 989042 - Use waitid() only on Gonk; unbreak BSD build. r=bsmedberg
3355. # [22:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f91a3f28a44 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 976205 - Uncaught async exceptions now cause xpcshell tests to fail. r=paolo, r=ted
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3375. # [22:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ejpbruel: whatever, a bug # would be fine too
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3415. # [22:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ejpbruel: that fact that your patch does touch the harness makes me a bit nervous
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3418. # [22:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ejpbruel: I gave it a few more retriggers
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3508. # [22:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6519732bc27d - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 533e61eb95d3 (bug 991234) for mochitest-2 bustage on Windows
3509. # [22:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/90f74b01a4a5 - Wes Kocher - Backed out 3 changesets (bug 977126) for mochitest-2 bustage on Windows
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3528. # [23:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f4fcae008c89 - David Burns - Bug 991242: Remove Marionette unit test as this is covered by Gaia testing; r=jgriffin
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3556. # [23:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3034f954c0d4 - David Burns - Bug 967179: Enable b2g tests that do not need to be disabled; r=mdas
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3559. # [23:17] <KWierso|sheriffduty> AutomatedTester: I can't wait to be able to back out my boss's patches! :)
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3561. # [23:17] <AutomatedTester> KWierso|sheriffduty: :)
3562. # [23:18] <Ms2ger> KWierso|sheriffduty, if you need help... :)
3563. # [23:18] <AutomatedTester> KWierso|sheriffduty: I have purposefully pushed them separately in case you need to
3564. # [23:18] <AutomatedTester> but I have done try on this last one
3565. # [23:18] <AutomatedTester> it was green
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3567. # [23:18] <RyanVM|afk> gg manager knows the plight of his underlings
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3569. # [23:19] <AutomatedTester> RyanVM|afk: Marionette has a rule that patches need try runs
3570. # [23:19] <AutomatedTester> since breaking Marionette makes everyone sad
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3572. # [23:19] * RyanVM|afk goes afk frlz
3573. # [23:20] <AutomatedTester> laterz
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3576. # [23:20] <AutomatedTester> I have 4 more patches that need landing but the first one is blocked on the reviewer
3577. # [23:21] <AutomatedTester> oh well... home time!
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3579. # [23:21] <Ms2ger> Damn reviewers
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3584. # [23:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f23f000482d2 - James Graham - Bug 991727 - Update mozprocess version due to API change, r=ahal
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3625. # [23:33] <tanvi> anyone buidling on osx 10.8 that can share there mozconfig?
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3628. # [23:33] <tanvi> went on leave, got a new computer with osx 10.8 and can no longer get my build to work
3629. # [23:34] <idwer_> heh. where do you work?
3630. # [23:34] <@khuey> woah tanvi is back
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3634. # [23:34] <@khuey> tanvi: we broke everything while you were gone :)
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3636. # [23:35] <tanvi> khuey: thanks. yeah, everything is broken ;)
3637. # [23:35] <tanvi> mdn says "Firefox no longer builds with gcc 4.2, but the build system should automatically select clang if it is available in the PATH. If that is not the case, you need to set CC and CXX.  "
3638. # [23:35] <tanvi> so i've been playing with that in my mozconfig, but with little success
3639. # [23:36] <tanvi> tried - 1) CC=clang
3640. # [23:36] <tanvi> CXX=clang++
3641. # [23:36] <tanvi> 2) CC=/opt/local/bin/clang
3642. # [23:36] <tanvi> CXX=/opt/local/bin/clang++
3643. # [23:36] <idwer> from what I read, you don't always need a .mozconfig
3644. # [23:36] <tanvi> and 3) CC=clang-mp-3.1
3645. # [23:36] <tanvi> CXX=clang++-mp-3.1
3646. # [23:36] <tanvi> and have also tried not including CC at all
3647. # [23:37] <dholbert> tanvi, not currently on a OS X 10.8 box, but I've built successfully on one in the past month or so. what error are you getting?
3648. # [23:38] <tanvi> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4755012
3649. # [23:38] <dholbert> tanvi, building with --disable-webrtc?
3650. # [23:38] <tanvi> yup ac_add_options --disable-webrtc
3651. # [23:39] <dholbert> tanvi, IIRC that's your problem
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3653. # [23:39] <dholbert> yup
3654. # [23:39] <dholbert> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981780#c6
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3656. # [23:39] <dholbert> tanvi, hopefully someone will fix that before long, but for now, you can't build with --disable-webrtc
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3658. # [23:39] <tanvi> dholbert: IIRC that used to be a requirement
3659. # [23:40] <tanvi> let me try removing that
3660. # [23:40] <mrbkap> What is the latest and greatest Promise API use in chrome code?
3661. # [23:40] <@gavin> webrtc has grown up, building without it is irresponsible now :)
3662. # [23:40] <@gavin> mrbkap: Promise.jsm
3663. # [23:40] <mrbkap> gavin: Okay, cool.
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3665. # [23:40] <sfink> ted: ping
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3672. # [23:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/904297de3d1e - Chris Pearce - Bug 986947 - Make MP3 contained in MP4 playback again on Windows with WMF backend. r=padenot
3673. # [23:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c208ea4d63c - Chris Pearce - Bug 991448 - Skip Theora decode to next keyframe after seek, so that we don't get visual artifacts after a fastSeek. r=cajbir
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3677. # [23:44] <jesup> gavin++ :-)
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3679. # [23:44] <jesup> I'm trying to fix that --disable-webrtc bug though. It's really annoying
3680. # [23:44] <richardus> we did it mozilla, we got rid of brendan! now to replace js with dart
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3685. # [23:45] <@smaug> mrbkap: I guess it depends on who answers to that question
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3688. # [23:46] <@dolske> jesup: should be easy to remove the option? ;)
3689. # [23:46] <@gavin> heh
3690. # [23:46] <@gavin> for real though, why do we need it?
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3693. # [23:46] <@smaug> mrbkap: the few limitations paolo was complaining about are being fixed in the native promise
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3695. # [23:47] <mrbkap> smaug: ok.
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3697. # [23:47] <jesup> gavin: For some derivative builds where it's sometimes broken for a bit (BSD) and for things like Thunderbird. But the importance of it is dropping a lot
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3700. # [23:48] <@gavin> jesup: doesn't sound necessary to me!
3701. # [23:48] <jesup> And people who are really, really scared of someone enabling their camera and mic
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3703. # [23:49] <Ms2ger> jesup, tor?
3704. # [23:49] <jesup> There are some minor platforms where it doesn't work/build (not many right now)
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3706. # [23:49] <@dolske> if we really want to support that use case, a pref seems fine to me.
3707. # [23:50] <jesup> Ms2ger: Not sure what tor wants. They may want anonymous tor exit video calls .... wow would that be bad
3708. # [23:50] <jesup> Though the point of using a VPN to anonymize is actually useful with webrtc
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3715. # [23:52] <@smaug> hmm, I was starting to review ted's patch but certain news somehow got my attention
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3719. # [23:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/18cf30214a10 - Joshua Cranmer - Bug 991449: Shorten Unified filename prefixes to avoid max path length linker errors on Windows, r=gps
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3721. # [23:54] <tbsaunde> jesup: well, I wiwsh tor had capacity for that kind of stuff
3722. # [23:54] <tbsaunde> and if it did it probably wouldn't be that bad
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3726. # [23:55] <tbsaunde> gavin: I think people also disable webrtc just for faster builds
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3728. # [23:55] <@gavin> that's silly
3729. # [23:55] <@gavin> you get faster builds if you disable gfx, too
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3734. # [23:55] <jesup> tbsaunde: difference in a full build is <5% (maybe <2%) last I checked.
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3736. # [23:56] <Mossop> Are the sessionstore leaks on fx-team known?
3737. # [23:56] <jesup> gavin: nah, disable layout
3738. # [23:56] <tbsaunde> gavin: I mind do that for local builds if it were an option
3739. # [23:56] <@gavin> :)
3740. # [23:56] <KWierso|sheriffduty> Mossop: kinda
3741. # [23:57] <tbsaunde> gavin: I baasically never run local builds so...
3742. # [23:57] <Yoric> Mossop: leaks?
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3747. # [23:57] <Mossop> Yoric: leaked until shutdown [nsGlobalWindow #7139 chrome://browser/content/tabview.html]
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3749. # [23:58] <tbsaunde> jesup: honestly I haven't investigated exactly how much it is for me locally, I just disable whatever I can easily
3750. # [23:58] <Yoric> Mossop: which test is that?
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3753. # [23:58] <Mossop> Yoric: Perhaps browser/components/sessionstore/test/browser_635418.js
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3756. # [23:58] <tanvi> dholbert, gavin: thanks! that worked :) and a clobber build finished in 12 minutes! looks like builds got faster while i was out!
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3761. # [23:59] <dholbert> tanvi, likely from unified builds
3762. # [23:59] <@gavin> tanvi: unified builds are magical
3763. # [23:59] <tanvi> unified builds?
3764. # [23:59] <dholbert> firefox.cpp
3765. # [23:59] <Yoric> Mossop: I'm not aware of a bug on that, can you file one?
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