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  1. # Session Start: Sat Apr 05 00:00:01 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
  3. # [00:00] <firebot> Check-in:
  4. # [00:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ddb9a42b78a - Robert Strong - Remove the huge foot-gun of removing all profiles from the uninstaller - Bug 432017 - Selecting remove personal data description text should clearly state that it
  5. # [00:00] <firebot> removes *all* Firefox personal data. r=bbondy
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  23. # [00:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/4d27870d3fdc - Matthew Noorenberghe - Bug 878436 - Update Lion Fullscreen window styling offsets to avoid themes shifting position. r=timdream a=sylvestre
  24. # [00:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a2fccb7d55f7 - Matthew Noorenberghe - Bug 990384 - Define tabToolbarNavbarOverlap to reduce magic numbers in CSS for the overlap between the tabs and nav-bar. r=mconley a=sylvestre
  25. # [00:11] <billm> ahal: ping
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  29. # [00:16] <mconley> KWierso: looks like my backout fixed the bc1 orange: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Fx-Team&rev=6a285c43e58d
  30. # [00:16] <KWierso> mconley: yep
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  32. # [00:17] <mconley> I hate it when I'm that guy. :/
  33. # [00:17] <KWierso> Mossop: break away :)
  34. # [00:17] <RyanVM> mconley: if it makes you feel better, it probably wasn't your fault
  35. # [00:17] <Mossop> Yeah except you've now invalidated my try results :(
  36. # [00:17] <mconley> RyanVM: doesn't mean I don't have to fix it. :/
  37. # [00:17] <RyanVM> mconley: sure it does
  38. # [00:18] <RyanVM> just wait for someone else to add a test and then land on top
  39. # [00:18] <mconley> RyanVM: heh
  40. # [00:18] <mconley> RyanVM: wait
  41. # [00:18] <grobinson> Are we planning on implementing Web Components?
  42. # [00:18] <RyanVM> victorporof's becoming an expert :P
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  44. # [00:18] <Mossop> FWIW my patch landed on top of fx-team with the leak fixed the leak
  45. # [00:18] <mconley> RyanVM: are you saying that it's the sheer number of tests that is the problem here?
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  47. # [00:18] <RyanVM> mconley: the way they get split across chunks
  48. # [00:18] <RyanVM> and adding/removing tests changes the balance
  49. # [00:19] <mconley> hrm
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  51. # [00:19] <RyanVM> mconley: work is being done to make mochitest-bc, but it's slow-going :(
  52. # [00:19] <RyanVM> better*
  53. # [00:20] <RyanVM> yay, I can build again
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  55. # [00:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e3564d9cd015 - Dave Townsend - Bug 850336: Devtools box model should be editable. r=pbrosset
  56. # [00:20] <RyanVM> mconley: for a really orangetastic time, you should see gps' Try runs with the test orders completely randomized
  57. # [00:20] <RyanVM> very sad
  58. # [00:21] <jcranmer|away> mconley: give up and start writing TB patches instead?
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  60. # [00:21] <RyanVM> lol
  61. # [00:21] <mconley> jcranmer|away: heh
  62. # [00:21] <mconley> jcranmer|away: well, the weekend _is_ here...
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  70. # [00:29] <jorendorff> "Consider adding '.noindex' to the end of your object directory name to have Finder ignore it." — the tool that picked my object directory name
  71. # [00:29] <jorendorff> i don't even know how to set it
  72. # [00:32] <jorendorff> mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=@TOPSRCDIR@/obj-@CONFIG_GUESS@.noindex
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  74. # [00:33] <philor> yeah, Tb really should be recruiting now
  75. # [00:34] <philor> that was how I first ended up working on it, when the toolkit and then browser test requirements started, and you absolutely had to land your patch with a test, even though the test framework probably hadn't yet been written
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  77. # [00:35] <jcranmer|away> we still have test requirements
  78. # [00:35] <jcranmer|away> except now we actually have test frameworks
  79. # [00:35] <philor> you don't, however, have and frontend test suites which are chunked but not chunked-by-dir
  80. # [00:36] <philor> *any
  81. # [00:36] <jcranmer|away> touche
  82. # [00:36] <RyanVM> srsly, get with the program already
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  84. # [00:36] <philor> and just like then, I would not be willing to work on the Firefox frontend right now, because the testing situation is intolerable
  85. # [00:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/6c5b67c8ba3d - Shane Caraveo - Bug 992398 fix domain for cdn deployment of directory site, r=gavin
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  88. # [00:37] * @smaug wonders if schrep's presentation about tests is still available. IIRC at that time we had ~4000 mochitest assertions
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  90. # [00:38] <@smaug> s/assertions/checks/ or whatever those are called
  91. # [00:38] <rstrong> out of curiousity, do these tests that are having problems running chunked NOT by dir pass when run by themselves?
  92. # [00:40] <philor> odds are we have two classes, busted-by-themselves, and catching-fallout-from-others which do fine by themselves, but fail because some other test set them up to fail
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  123. # [00:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/1d0434bb0a62 - Robert Strong - Bug 992413 - Add back to stub ping. r=tabraldes
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  127. # [01:01] <KWierso> rstrong: looks like your console ate part of that commit message :\
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  129. # [01:01] <TimAbraldes> oh yeah... because of the ${blahblah} syntax
  130. # [01:01] <rstrong> KWierso: meh, I'll remember for future reference. The bug number suffices for that
  131. # [01:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/a2b5f542f8a8 - Szabolcs Hubai - Bug 985742 - Construct the [[Prototype]] chain given to FUEL Application instances without using mutable __proto__. r=mak
  132. # [01:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/d22244fa46b4 - Mihai Sucan - Bug 991734 - Re-enable javascript warnings in the web console; r=jwalker
  133. # [01:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/18857cdcc19c - Jared Wein - Bug 991254 - [about:home] RTL + HiDPI shows the Restore Previous Session button really large. r=mikedeboer
  134. # [01:02] <TimAbraldes> KWierso, rstrong: luckily that wasn't a defined environment variable
  135. # [01:02] <TimAbraldes> :)
  136. # [01:02] <KWierso> TimAbraldes++
  137. # [01:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/0f09c8c142d1 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 978991 - Add hooks to let an add-on know when a panel is installed/uninstalled. r=liuche
  138. # [01:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/042d3099b1f7 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 991190 - Rename Home.panels.authHandler API to Home.panels.auth. r=liuche
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  197. # [01:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/831a3ccce100 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 989137 - Part 10: Add a testing-only JSM for common AddonManager operations; r=Unfocused, r=gfritzsche
  198. # [01:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/7e410c1d61e6 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 989137 - Part 8: Prevent unknown experiments from being installed; r=Unfocused
  199. # [01:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/d3053c4e4c51 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 989137 - Part 9: Ensure add-ons are enabled when they should be; r=Unfocused, r=gfritzsche
  200. # [01:44] <nalexander> gps: I think your fx-team push will burn 'cuz of my bad push, but I just pushed follow-up.
  201. # [01:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/8dadefdc975c - Nick Alexander - Bug 966104 - Follow-up: Remove extraneous changes. r=bustage
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  204. # [01:46] <romaxa> glandium: I found deb package on third party page, and installed it manually
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  206. # [01:47] <efaust> I leave, come back, and it's still closed
  207. # [01:47] <efaust> :(
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  209. # [01:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/db559f1eaaf4 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
  210. # [01:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/816b86e5c8fa - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 3 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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  214. # [01:55] <KWierso> efaust: try now
  215. # [01:55] <efaust> KWierso: :D
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  222. # [01:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7078ef898123 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 990631. When processing a native window move for a popup compare the new position with the actual position we expect to popup to be at. r=enndeakin
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  236. # [02:07] <efaust> now watch everything break...
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  257. # [02:22] <catlee-away> huh, what landed recently that would have made build times longer?
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  291. # [02:42] <firebot> Check-in:
  292. # [02:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e27520610ef - Tooru Fujisawa - Bug 471713 - Add a script to generate documentation for SpiderMonkey opcodes from an index comment in vm/Opcodes.h and eventual comments by each opcode. (Actual opcode
  293. # [02:42] <firebot> documentation to follow as reviews complete.) Document only JSOP_NOP for now, and comment out the sys.exit() in error(), so that we get broken but readable skeleton documentation. r=jwalden
  294. # [02:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/633cf8778b44 - Jeff Walden - Remove TypedArrayObject::isArrayIndex. It's dead, Jim. No bug, r=jimb (natch)
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  310. # [02:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/97a6af89afd0 - Mike Conley - Bug 984455 - Bookmarks menu and toolbar context menus can be broken after underflowing from nav-bar chevron. r=mak,mdeboer,Gijs.
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  324. # [03:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/601c1ba8c437 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 990806, part 1 - Call js_ReportOutOfMemory when deliberately triggering an OOM for testing. r=terrence.
  325. # [03:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96d5b6816785 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 990096, part 1 - Crash on OOM in Yarr vector class. r=h4writer.
  326. # [03:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/05f9f8a561bc - Jason Orendorff - Bug 990806, part 2 - Fix "Assertion failure: gGotError, at js/src/shell/js.cpp:448" after OOM in the shell by setting gGotError from an out-of-memory callback.
  327. # [03:01] <firebot> r=terrence.
  328. # [03:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a491dcb9c7f - Jason Orendorff - Bug 990096, part 2 - Crash on OOM for various small allocations in Yarr. r=h4writer.
  329. # [03:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a8ae91b6d9e - Jason Orendorff - Bug 986492, part 1 - Add fill() convenience function to Codegen.py. r=peterv.
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  333. # [03:03] <seth> ugh. i've spent all day in gdb
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  354. # [03:16] <glandium> romaxa: it's not supposed to be a build requirement, we have jsmin in the tree
  355. # [03:16] <glandium> romaxa: so please do file a bug
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  362. # [03:19] <jcranmer> my build crashes gold
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  458. # [04:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b908fdf7bc7 - Ben Turner - Bug 988878, r=bsmedberg.
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  635. # [09:45] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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  637. # [09:46] <juan> Hi
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  642. # [09:54] <Ms2ger|sad> So shaver is back...
  643. # [09:54] <Ms2ger|sad> As CEO?
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  654. # [10:03] <Ms2ger|sad> Potato, potato
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  771. # [12:53] <jez> Hey. what's the proper way to implement a timer (ie. function that is called on a regular basis) in a firefox/seamonkey extension?
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  789. # [13:20] <paul> Hi. I have an issue with scrollbars in a xul:panel: http://i.imgur.com/ku02DBY.png - they are drawn below some nodes.
  790. # [13:20] <paul> jez: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/SDK/High-Level_APIs/timers
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  796. # [13:28] <paul> bug 987680
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  868. # [14:43] <jez> what's the relationship between require() and Components.utils.import()? I've been using the latter to import my JSMs, but all the documentation I see now tells me to use require()
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  904. # [15:36] <hwine> FYI: Trees Close for maintenance at 0700PT https://bugzil.la/985503
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  964. # [16:39] <till> the governance mailing list moderation sure makes for saddening new-mail notifications :(
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  987. # [17:12] <Ms2ger|sad> till, something on there that won't make me sadder if I read it?
  988. # [17:12] <till> Ms2ger|sad: no
  989. # [17:13] <Ms2ger|sad> Okay
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  1014. # [17:39] <till> gerv: I think it'd actually make sense to let the "me too" posts through - at least for first-time posters. That way it's possible to respond to multiple people at once without pasting a prepared message
  1015. # [17:39] <gerv> till: I can try, but it requires keeping mental track of who has posted before and who has not,
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  1017. # [17:40] <gerv> which gets increasingly more difficult and is probably already beyond my capacity.
  1018. # [17:40] <till> gerv: ah, right. I didn't think of that
  1019. # [17:40] <gerv> I'm sure I'll get even my current attempt wrong to some degree,
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  1021. # [17:40] <gerv> because people could (shh!) dodge it by posting multiple top-level posts far apart enough in time
  1022. # [17:40] <gerv> that I don't see them both in the mod queue at the same time.
  1023. # [17:40] <gerv> But it's better than nothing.
  1024. # [17:40] <till> true
  1025. # [17:41] <till> I think I'll mostly respond to longer messages, based on the assumption that people taking more time care more and might be convinced to think about the issue some more
  1026. # [17:41] <till> gerv: thank you for that blog post, btw
  1027. # [17:42] <gerv> You're welcome.
  1028. # [17:42] <gerv> Make sure you CC the poster;
  1029. # [17:42] <gerv> almost everyone is not a subscriber.
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  1032. # [17:43] <till> yes, I'm doing that
  1033. # [17:44] <till> in fact, the only reason I'm CCing the list is that there's a very slight chance potential new posters might read one of the messages before posting
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  1116. # [19:16] <stefanh_netbook> mkaply: re bug 987783, it was a surprise that windows treated the -moz-appearance rule different. On non-windows you can't set the background-color/image without first setting -moz-appearance:none
  1117. # [19:16] <stefanh_netbook> :/
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  1194. # [20:39] <philor> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/tabview/test/browser_tabview_bug626455.js#10
  1195. # [20:39] <philor> what's the worst that could happen?
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  1197. # [20:41] <froydnj> surely...
  1198. # [20:45] <philor> the answer is, we leave the dialog up, timing out subsequent tests, until finally we GC it, hang as a result, and fail to kill the hung process
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  1202. # [20:52] <jez> question about http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/threads/nsTimerImpl.cpp#500
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  1204. # [20:53] <jez> why, when the callback has been called, is it released? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/threads/nsTimerImpl.cpp#547
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  1210. # [20:59] <RealRaven1> Does anybody know whether it is possiuble to declare ANSI encoding in an <!ENTITY > reference to a file?
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  1236. # [21:23] <@smaug> jez: the code has even comments about that
  1237. # [21:24] <jez> smaug: really, where?
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  1239. # [21:25] <jez> you mean bug #330128
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  1244. # [21:27] <@smaug> jez: yes
  1245. # [21:27] <jez> hmm looks like it's done to allow the callback itself to change the next callback or something
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  1249. # [21:28] <@smaug> that re-init is special case
  1250. # [21:28] <@smaug> which need to be handled
  1251. # [21:28] <@smaug> but the bug is rather clear
  1252. # [21:29] <jez> i still say it would be nice to have an additional field that said something like "timer finished". then my code could just know, rather than relying on an implementation detail to guess
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  1255. # [21:30] <@smaug> why would you need that additional field?
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  1257. # [21:30] <jez> well who knows, in future they might change it so that callback doesn't get set to null once a one-time-shot has been fired
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  1260. # [21:31] <jez> right now my only way of telling that is that the callback is null
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  1263. # [21:32] <@smaug> I doubt we'll ever change that to hold callback longer than needed
  1264. # [21:32] <@smaug> the current setup is quite close to setTimeout/setInterval
  1265. # [21:32] <@smaug> you keep stuff alive as long as it is needed, but not longer
  1266. # [21:32] <jez> ok, guess i'll rely on that then
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  1280. # [22:00] <philor> why do we have 3665 instances of "Expected color but found 'undefined'" in about:newtab in a browser-chrome run?
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  1290. # [22:09] <NeilAway> jez: to avoid a reference cycle between the timer and its callback
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  1316. # [22:22] <efaust> philor: bc on inbound looks dubious since my push? Is that true?
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  1320. # [22:26] <philor> efaust: true, but nothing to do with you
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  1322. # [22:27] <efaust> OK, I am always tenative when dealing with GC stuff that intermittents might be my problem. I guess they are all different bugs, though.
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  1325. # [22:29] <philor> efaust: if you caused bug 983948 several weeks ago, then you can claim them
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  1327. # [22:31] <efaust> not I :)
  1328. # [22:32] <philor> despite the start of it sounding like something else, apparently it is because of GC
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  1367. # [23:44] <philor> anybody have a tree handy, and a couple of minutes to do a try push for me?
  1368. # [23:45] <efaust> philor: I can do. Which tree do you need?
  1369. # [23:46] <philor> efaust: thanks! any of m-c/m-i/fx-team is fine, just comment out http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/newtab/sites.js#157 and try: -b d -p linux64 -u mochitest-bc -t none
  1370. # [23:46] <efaust> philor: sure thing. pulling now. Will push momentarily.
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  1374. # [23:50] <efaust> philor: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=b97790959694
  1375. # [23:50] <philor> great, thank you!
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  1377. # [23:51] <@smaug> "needs Flash 7 or newer... please update your browser"
  1378. # [23:51] <RealRaven> does anybody here use md5HexDigest ?
  1379. # [23:52] <RealRaven> md5Hex Digest
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  1383. # [23:54] <philor> smaug: well, don't all modern browsers include Flash?
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  1387. # [23:56] <@smaug> ha
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