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  13. # [00:13] * jesup recently found a problem causing oranges in b2g debug emulator - the emulator would go to sleep, slowing it down significantly. 8-/
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  15. # [00:14] <jesup> and it's slow enough already!!!
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  17. # [00:15] <jesup> We added a little processing (resample) to fake audio streams, and a trivial test went from 30s (already !) to 350-450 seconds(!!!!). Stopping it from sleeping keeps it to a mere 130 seconds
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  20. # [00:18] <froydnj> maybe we should add an audio processing passthrough driver to the emulator like there is for the graphics stuff
  21. # [00:18] <froydnj> ;)
  22. # [00:19] <jesup> won't work here, sorry
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  26. # [00:22] <jesup> froydnj: solution that got green (and back to 30s): turn down the video framerate to 1/10 normal, and the audio data to 1/10 normal (though that means gaps in the audio stream). Then enough cycles are available to process the test. Otherwise, 160 samples of audio every 10ms choke tbpl. (On my local system, it's fine - 10-12 seconds whether this code is in there or not). All because the...
  27. # [00:22] <jesup> ...emulator isn't a system emulator, just really a CPU emulator
  28. # [00:23] <jesup> This is not a good design, and REALLY not a good design if there's any timer-related/realtime data to process (like webrtc/gum/mediastreams)
  29. # [00:23] <jesup> This == the b2g emulator, especially in debug
  30. # [00:24] <jesup> And it cost padenot and I like 3 days and countless Try runs (since it works fine locally in debug emulator)
  31. # [00:26] <froydnj> jesup: wdym "isn't a system emulator"?
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  33. # [00:28] <tbsaunde> froydnj: I'd guess he means isn't like qemu-user
  34. # [00:28] <jesup> As in, from what gwagner and jgriffin tell me, it doesn't emulate a CPU & system of a specific CPU clock rate, it emulates the ARM processor, but a 10ms timer is a 10ms wallclock/base-OS timer, not 10ms of inside-simulation. If it was inside-simulation time, the speed of the machine running it wouldn't matter except how long the overall run takes to complete.
  35. # [00:29] <jesup> so a 160-samples-every-10ms input can drag the thing to it's knees in debug
  36. # [00:29] <jesup> on tbpl - on a fast system it's no problem at all
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  38. # [00:32] <jesup> I imagine the "bogomips" rating on my system and tbpl are wildly different
  39. # [00:32] <jesup> afk...
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  77. # [01:30] * philor wonders why about:accounts feels the need to unset the appearance of input[type="search"]::-webkit-search-cancel-button
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  79. # [01:31] <tbsaunde> philor: you mean you don't think our chrome should use lots of webkit specific styling?
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  85. # [01:39] <philor> tbsaunde: yeah, I've always thought the one great thing about working on our chrome was that you didn't have to use all that "this for this version of this browser, and this other thing for another version, and a third thing for another browser" stuff
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  87. # [01:42] <tbsaunde> philor: but but I thought our goal was to make our lives hard and painful
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  91. # [01:48] <philor> tbsaunde: oh, that's our goal? I thought that was just our method
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  136. # [03:16] <@gavin> philor: about:accounts CSS is shared with the web version
  137. # [03:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/ed65a3fd835a - Gavin Sharp - Bug 992485: disable info() in devtools tests that is bloating browser-chrome test logs, CLOSED TREE
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  148. # [03:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/c527625c6727 - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 992485 - Reduce browser-chrome logs by 1.2MB by not getting complaints while setting "background-color: undefined", rs=ttaubert
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  151. # [03:28] <philor> too bad declaring encoding requires doing it in so many places, there's another 1900 lines of that, and Henri's message is... not exactly brief
  152. # [03:28] <dafg> Hi, once i open the final release version of firefox why the nightly interface is reset? any idea
  153. # [03:30] <dafg> i thought both will run as a separatly without making changes to either
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  155. # [03:30] <ttaubert> philor: yeah I tried to fix that a while ago...
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  157. # [03:32] <philor> dafg: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Using_multiple_profiles_-_Firefox
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  159. # [03:33] <philor> or some sumo article, but I don't have autocomplete for that
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  164. # [03:35] <dafg> i think my profile is the same but still booting the final version has reset the custom interface on the nightly version
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  170. # [03:38] <ttaubert> philor: bug 842511
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  173. # [03:40] <philor> we have tests that depend on the directory listing not declaring an encoding?
  174. # [03:40] <ttaubert> you sound surprised
  175. # [03:40] <ttaubert> I should have written down the test failures
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  187. # [03:51] <WG9s> phior: seems you are relenting and reducing noise to re-open trees. Probably not a bad idea becuase th eorigianl seprate to a different test I am not sure would help. Need to undeerstand reason for the limit. if it is number of logs and amount of disk space thing then adding another test log will just mean lower limit.
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  190. # [03:54] <philor> relenting?
  191. # [03:54] <froydnj> constant vigilance!
  192. # [03:57] <philor> oh, I guess if you didn't read the "If," before "we're not going to do anything other than wait"
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  194. # [03:58] <jesup> I'm hoping forcing wakelock for the b2g emulator tests will reduce some of the random timeouts
  195. # [03:59] <dafg> philor, shall i file a bug for nightly UI resetting issue?
  196. # [03:59] <jesup> bug 992436
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  198. # [04:00] <philor> dafg: I pointed you to that article because you *want* to use multiple profiles while switching between versions
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  201. # [04:00] <dafg> i am using the same profile
  202. # [04:01] <philor> jesup: wonder whether it takes a nap while being crazy enough to hit the network for updates, and that's why we ended up disabling a bunch of M7 tests
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  204. # [04:01] <jesup> philor: possible, given how slowly it runs
  205. # [04:02] <jesup> philor: it seems like if a test took more than 30 or maybe 60 second it went to sleep, unless it had wakelock (some of the video tests things may)
  206. # [04:02] <jesup> Just put a patch on that bug. You could do a Try with that and the M7 stuff re-enabled
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  217. # [04:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f7faeaf19dfa - Jan Beich - Bug 948946 - Use private-browsing indicator with GTK theme on non-Linux as well. r=MattN a=sylvestre
  218. # [04:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/75c7e2c98e0c - Matthew Noorenberghe - Bug 973855 - [Australis] Include browser-bottombox in the customization mode padding. r=jaws a=sylvestre
  219. # [04:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/81075b35ee13 - Matthew Noorenberghe - Bug 990387 - Toolbar buttons on the TabsToolbar appear below the nav-bar border with a theme. r=dao a=sylvestre
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  282. # [05:48] * philor is completely baffled by https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37325517&tree=Try
  283. # [05:49] <philor> that's http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/test/test_bug431701.html?force=1 running on https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/34dbc80d1940
  284. # [05:49] <philor> so <iframe src="data:text/html,<html></html>"> is showing the mochi.test root directory listing?
  285. # [05:52] <philor> oh, or is <iframe id="one"></iframe> before it gets a src set showing it, and that one text/html test src which doesn't set an encoding inherits an encoding from the page it was loaded on top of?
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  294. # [06:09] <efaust> is bcpocalypse making any progress towards a solution, or are we just gonna sort it out on monday?
  295. # [06:10] <KWierso|afk> efaust: there's some movement to trim off a few abusively spammy things
  296. # [06:10] <KWierso|afk> unsure if it's enough to reopen
  297. # [06:10] <efaust> yeah, I just read the bug.
  298. # [06:10] <efaust> I don't have anything to land; I'm mostly just curious, as things have been closed for a while
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  307. # [06:24] <killrawr> hey guys, I'm pretty deseparate for help right now.. I've been reading the Mozilla Developer Wiki and Forums since 11 AM (its now 5:00 PM) and I can't find anything on what I would like to do (even though, I have multiple extensions... doing exactly what I would like)
  308. # [06:24] <killrawr> hey guys, I'm pretty deseparate for help right now.. I've been reading the Mozilla Developer Wiki and Forums since 11 AM (its now 5:00 PM) and I can't find anything on what I would like to do (even though, I have multiple extensions... doing exactly what I would like)
  309. # [06:24] <killrawr> hey guys, I'm pretty deseparate for help right now.. I've been reading the Mozilla Developer Wiki and Forums since 11 AM (its now 5:00 PM) and I can't find anything on what I would like to do (even though, I have multiple extensions... doing exactly what I would like)
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  311. # [06:24] <KWierso|afk> killrawr: okay?
  312. # [06:24] <killrawr> (I'm not exaclty sure if any of my messages are even being sent, so I apologize for any spam).
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  319. # [06:30] <philor> that went pretty well
  320. # [06:30] <philor> 49.6MB, are we unbloated now?
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  323. # [06:34] <philor> itym still
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  325. # [06:36] <efaust> there was a great post-it on nbp's desk when he was still in MV that just read "are we slow again?"
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  347. # [07:20] <osk> hi everyone, ive been searching for a few hours but have been unable to work out how to add a icon to the right hand side of the navigation bar, as it is placed with firebug etc. I was hoping someone could please point me in the right direction
  348. # [07:21] <osk> here is a screenshot for reference on what I am trying to acheive
  349. # [07:21] <osk> http://iforce.co.nz/i/gtyq4tkw.3e5.png
  350. # [07:21] <osk> any help would be appreciated, cheers
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  357. # [07:29] <killrawr> finally :)
  358. # [07:30] <killrawr> hey.. so I had my friend ask for help on my behlaf because http://irc.lc/mozilla/developers/osk (couldnt see any responses)
  359. # [07:30] <killrawr> anyway.. I've been looking all over the https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons section
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  361. # [07:31] <killrawr> but I cant find any information regarding adding an icon in the "Navigation Toolbar" (if you right click on the addressbar section of the browser.xul).. you'll see the menu item "Navigation Toolbar".
  362. # [07:31] <killrawr> https://forums.mozilla.org/addons/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=16468 (Topic I made on Mozilla Addons Forum)
  363. # [07:32] <killrawr> and http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22888687/firefox-extension-adding-button-to-navigation-toolbar-similar-to-liveheaders-a (appericate all the help I can get, as long as it isn't just a link to page lol) Thanks in advance ...
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  383. # [07:44] <killrawr> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22888687/firefox-extension-adding-button-to-navigation-toolbar-similar-to-liveheaders-a
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  387. # [07:50] <KWierso|afk> killrawr: so you just want to add a button to the toolbar itself?
  388. # [07:50] <KWierso|afk> like, next to the Downloads button and stuff?
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  390. # [07:51] <jbeich> Can someone point me to preprocessor docs? The reviewer in bug 992593 claims my patch uses unsupported syntax. I couldn't find anything on wiki.m.o or via google for "mozilla preprocessor documentation".
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  399. # [08:06] <killrawr> hey
  400. # [08:06] <killrawr> @Kwierso hey yea exactly
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  403. # [08:09] <KWierso|afk> killrawr: you probably would get better help (maybe not at this hour) in the #jetpack channel with this, but the Add-On SDK has some APIs specifically for adding buttons to the navigation bar: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/SDK/Low-Level_APIs/ui_button_action and https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/SDK/Low-Level_APIs/ui_button_toggle
  404. # [08:09] <KWierso|afk> though those will only work in Firefox 29 and newer
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  406. # [08:09] <killrawr> Hey thanks, it confuses me
  407. # [08:09] <killrawr> that Firebug can do it
  408. # [08:10] <killrawr> and Liveheaders can do it (and a couple of other extensions I use ... can do it) for Firefox v28.0
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  410. # [08:10] <killrawr> whats the difference?
  411. # [08:10] <killrawr> do these other extensions get special treatment for version 28 of Firefox ?
  412. # [08:10] <killrawr> as seen in http://iforce.co.nz/i/gtyq4tkw.3e5.png
  413. # [08:11] <KWierso|afk> no, they're directly manipulating the browser's interface, as opposed to using the new customization APIs added in Firefox 29+
  414. # [08:11] <KWierso|afk> they're probably using https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XUL/Toolbars/Custom_toolbar_button?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Custom_Toolbar_Button
  415. # [08:12] <killrawr> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XUL/Toolbars/Custom_toolbar_button?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Custom_Toolbar_Button is a very wierd tutorial
  416. # [08:12] <KWierso|afk> you could also use the CustomizableUI API directly with https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/JavaScript_code_modules/CustomizableUI.jsm
  417. # [08:12] <killrawr> I've already made an extension using information documented within that page..
  418. # [08:12] <KWierso|afk> if you don't want to use the Add-on SDK's framework
  419. # [08:13] <killrawr> but the "button" persay is not accessible anywhere within Firefox's user interface
  420. # [08:13] <KWierso|afk> killrawr: there's also https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XUL/Toolbars/Creating_toolbar_buttons
  421. # [08:13] <killrawr> I've also tried that one too
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  423. # [08:14] <killrawr> but I was confused again because in the documentation, they have supposed javascript for onclick action
  424. # [08:14] <killrawr> but nowhere on the page
  425. # [08:14] <killrawr> does it document how the javascript is executed on Firefox
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  427. # [08:14] <killrawr> (there is no <script> node)
  428. # [08:14] <killrawr> for the particular page
  429. # [08:14] <KWierso|afk> killrawr: you might also try the #extdev or #addons channels for more help with the traditional way of adding the buttons
  430. # [08:15] <killrawr> so i have no idea on how the "onclick: function(event) {" actually reaches firefox lol
  431. # [08:15] <killrawr> btw Kwierso :) im so thankful
  432. # [08:15] <killrawr> you're helping :D
  433. # [08:15] <killrawr> Earlier I was how the hell are these ext doing it, when it isn't documented on mozilla lol
  434. # [08:16] <KWierso|afk> killrawr: that's about as much help as I'll be able to give you. I need to go to sleep soon so I can finish packing up for my cross-state move next week :(
  435. # [08:16] <KWierso|afk> well... :) to the move part... :( to the not being able to help much more than this :P
  436. # [08:16] <killrawr> do you have any idea when Firefox 29 is out?
  437. # [08:17] <killrawr> I live in New Zealand lol
  438. # [08:17] <KWierso|afk> https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar says 29 releases on april 29
  439. # [08:17] <killrawr> so do you think I should wait till the 29th?
  440. # [08:17] <killrawr> before I plan on making a firefox ext?
  441. # [08:17] <killrawr> if I can't find a solution for the problem I'm experiencing?
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  443. # [08:18] <KWierso|afk> the old way should still work once you figure it out, but the new way is easier and arguably better
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  445. # [08:18] <killrawr> btw I have another question, if these other developers are adding the additional button
  446. # [08:18] <killrawr> using javascript
  447. # [08:18] <KWierso|afk> and should continue working more reliably into the future
  448. # [08:18] <killrawr> and usually I've seen javascript being added to callstack after the file.xul is executed by the UI Thread
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  450. # [08:18] <killrawr> if the file.xul is never called by the UI Thread
  451. # [08:18] <killrawr> how do they get the javascript into the browser?
  452. # [08:18] <killrawr> by the chrome.manifest?
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  456. # [08:20] <killrawr> thats the one thing that confuses me... is how to get the button too show, the Javascript for it... from what I've seen is pretty basic (your average js script).. I just have no idea how it is called it into the browser
  457. # [08:20] <killrawr> or the order of which script is added first
  458. # [08:20] <KWierso|afk> I'm not really all that knowledgeable on the traditional xul style of adding these buttons, but I believe the chrome.manifest file will manage the overlays onto the browser itself
  459. # [08:21] <KWierso|afk> your xul file that is overlayed onto the browser contains your buttons and stuff, along with any needed scripts
  460. # [08:21] <KWierso|afk> and those scripts get run and/or get called on load and as needed
  461. # [08:21] <KWierso|afk> order is probably not deterministic
  462. # [08:21] <KWierso|afk> depends on whatever order the addon overlays get processed
  463. # [08:22] <KWierso|afk> #extdev and #addons will probably give you better answers and tell you that I'm not telling the truth on some of this stuff :P
  464. # [08:22] <killrawr> http://www.kendsnyder.com/posts/firefox-extensions-add-button-to-nav-bar
  465. # [08:22] <killrawr> is one of the best links Ive found so far
  466. # [08:23] <killrawr> but again I don't know how that script is called into the browser
  467. # [08:23] <killrawr> :(
  468. # [08:23] <KWierso|afk> that's being run from an add-on sdk based extension's main.js file
  469. # [08:23] <killrawr> btw with the add-on sdk can I still have a install.rdf?
  470. # [08:24] <KWierso|afk> it'll generate one for you as part of the process of creating the extension
  471. # [08:24] <KWierso|afk> you can customize some of the parts of it before it gets generated
  472. # [08:24] <KWierso|afk> and you should be able to modify it afterwards
  473. # [08:24] <KWierso|afk> (though those changes will probably be overridden the next time you generate your extension)
  474. # [08:25] <KWierso|afk> you want #jetpack channel for SDK questions :)
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  476. # [08:25] <KWierso|afk> there might be some european or asian people in there at this hour
  477. # [08:26] <killrawr> http://iforce.co.nz/i/efaou1h4.p10.png
  478. # [08:26] <killrawr> Mine isnt making a install.rdf
  479. # [08:26] <killrawr> and my command sequence was
  480. # [08:26] <killrawr> mkdir developer_test
  481. # [08:26] <killrawr> cd developer_test
  482. # [08:26] <killrawr> cfx init
  483. # [08:27] <killrawr> do i use additional commands for a install.rdf to be created?
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  485. # [08:27] <KWierso|afk> killrawr: the final step in generating an SDK-based extension is the | cfx xpi | command, which will generate the entire addon within a .xpi file
  486. # [08:27] <KWierso|afk> inside the .xpi file will be all of the scripts needed, and the install.rdf file
  487. # [08:29] <killrawr> omg
  488. # [08:29] <killrawr> that is cool
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  490. # [08:29] <killrawr> :)
  491. # [08:29] <KWierso|afk> you should be able to rename the filename from whatever.xpi to whatever.zip, extract the contents of the newly renamed file, edit install.rdf as needed, then rezip the contents, rename it back to whatever.xpi, and install it from there
  492. # [08:30] <killrawr> yeah I cna just rename it .zip
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  494. # [08:30] <killrawr> thanks so much
  495. # [08:30] <killrawr> :)
  496. # [08:30] <KWierso|afk> yep
  497. # [08:30] <KWierso|afk> SDK docs are at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/SDK/
  498. # [08:30] <killrawr> Can I get your email address?
  499. # [08:30] <killrawr> :)
  500. # [08:31] <KWierso|afk> the package.json file is where you can customize some of the stuff that goes into install.rdf before it gets generated: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/SDK/Tools/package_json
  501. # [08:31] <killrawr> another question
  502. # [08:31] <killrawr> how I set the icon that goes in the "Addon" section of the browser
  503. # [08:31] <KWierso|afk> killrawr: I'd rather you post to the jetpack google group: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mozilla-labs-jetpack
  504. # [08:32] <killrawr> "File -> add ons"
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  506. # [08:32] <KWierso|afk> 1. more than one person can answer. 2. the answers can help other people in the future :)
  507. # [08:32] <killrawr> oh okay um do people still use the mozilla add on forums?
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  511. # [08:32] <KWierso|afk> killrawr: there's an "icon" property listed on that package.json file, and it explains where you need to put the icon files
  512. # [08:33] <KWierso|afk> no clue about the AMO forums, but the jetpack google group is watched by several people from the SDK team
  513. # [08:33] <killrawr> oh awesome :D
  514. # [08:33] <KWierso|afk> see also the icon64 property in package.json for getting a larger, more detailed icon to use as well
  515. # [08:33] <killrawr> is it possible to add like external libraries for instance jQuery
  516. # [08:34] <killrawr> to a firefox extension or do you have to use regular javascript?
  517. # [08:34] <killrawr> for majority of the logic of the ext?
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  519. # [08:34] <KWierso|afk> jquery tends to assume you have access to a DOM, and the sdk-based addons typically don't except for the parts that interact with webpage contents
  520. # [08:35] <killrawr> ohh kk so what kind of libraries are accessible apart of javascript?
  521. # [08:35] <killrawr> in regards with the sdk-basd addons?
  522. # [08:36] <KWierso|afk> there are several pre-written modules that you can use in your extension to do various things to the browser
  523. # [08:37] <KWierso|afk> see the "high-level apis" and "low-level apis" links in the sidebar of this page: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/SDK
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  525. # [08:38] <KWierso|afk> main.js has access to Math, Array, JSON and some other globals
  526. # [08:39] <KWierso|afk> there's a built-in console API
  527. # [08:39] <killrawr> hey kwierso do you use SO?
  528. # [08:39] <KWierso|afk> not really
  529. # [08:39] <killrawr> if you were to post the links and information you gave me above... I'd accept it
  530. # [08:39] <killrawr> if you wanted rep on your SO account
  531. # [08:40] <killrawr> btw
  532. # [08:40] <killrawr> thanks again :)
  533. # [08:40] <gaston> so the tree will stay closed all the weekend ? gah
  534. # [08:40] <KWierso|afk> I don't think there's anything stopping some other JS libraries from working in main.js as long as they don't try to touch anything like window, document or localStorage
  535. # [08:40] <KWierso|afk> gaston: the closures will continue until morale improves
  536. # [08:41] <KWierso|afk> gaston: though I thought philor was thinking of reopening things since we've bought ourselves roughly 2-3 weeks before the logbloat creeps back up to the danger zone
  537. # [08:41] <gaston> unbloat all the logs! :)
  538. # [08:41] <killrawr> hey one more thing
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  540. # [08:42] <killrawr> can you get information from the DOM using a firefox addon?
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  542. # [08:42] <killrawr> like ID of a particular element
  543. # [08:42] <KWierso|afk> killrawr: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/SDK/Guides/Two_Types_of_Scripts would be the page to read about interacting with the DOM in an SDK addon
  544. # [08:42] <KWierso|afk> along with the working with content scripts link in that page
  545. # [08:43] <killrawr> because I want users to be able to capture particalur elements kind of snappysnippet
  546. # [08:43] <killrawr> for Google Chrome
  547. # [08:43] <killrawr> (but I'm not building the same kind of app) lol
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  549. # [08:44] <KWierso|afk> which in turn would mean you'd probably be needing to read up on either the page-mod module or the tabs module's attach() function: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/SDK/High-Level_APIs/page-mod --- https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/SDK/High-Level_APIs/tabs#attach(options)
  550. # [08:45] <KWierso|afk> which would let you run scripts against specific pages
  551. # [08:45] <KWierso|afk> but yeah, this is starting to trend towards a conversation that should be held with someone in #jetpack or on the jetpack google group :)
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  555. # [08:46] <killrawr> sorry I'm just asking.. whether what I want to do is technically possible
  556. # [08:47] <killrawr> before I invest time into it lol
  557. # [08:47] <KWierso|afk> short answer: yes, it is possible
  558. # [08:47] <KWierso|afk> just not directly from main.js
  559. # [08:47] <Ms2ger> Hi KWierso|afk
  560. # [08:47] <KWierso|afk> sup, Ms2ger
  561. # [08:47] <Ms2ger> Midnight :)
  562. # [08:47] <KWierso|afk> not for twelve minutes :P
  563. # [08:48] <philor> KWierso|afk: maybe I'd think it was okay, if I didn't know us
  564. # [08:48] <Ms2ger> Ha
  565. # [08:49] <Ms2ger> Hi philor
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  567. # [08:52] <philor> hey
  568. # [08:53] * philor wonders wtf the mozharness builds in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Cedar&showall=1 were thinking
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  581. # [09:10] <dafg> everytime i exit nightly and try to open another session.. its always running in the prosesses
  582. # [09:10] <dafg> how to fix this?
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  584. # [09:11] <Ms2ger> Wait a bit and/or check if there's another window open that you missed
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  587. # [09:11] <Ms2ger> If that doesn't help, kill the process, it should handle that quite fine
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  589. # [09:12] <dafg> yeah no window is open but still running in taskbar process.. so i have to kill everytime to launch new browser window
  590. # [09:12] <Ms2ger> That shouldn't be the case, though
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  592. # [09:13] <dafg> may be some bug?
  593. # [09:13] <Ms2ger> Probably, yes
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  671. # [12:01] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: when you see http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/dom/webidl/PeerConnectionImpl.webidl#23 do you get a PeerConnectionObserver& at the C++ side?
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  673. # [12:01] <Ms2ger> Plausible
  674. # [12:02] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, code says yes
  675. # [12:02] <NeilAway> feels strange to pass a heap object by reference, that's all :s
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  677. # [12:03] <NeilAway> also that USE_FAKE_PCOBSERVER is a horrible hack :-(
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  683. # [12:08] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: thre can only be one PeerConnectionObserver implementation, right?
  684. # [12:10] <Ms2ger> I believe that's correct, yes
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  773. # [14:08] <Optimizer> anyone has a clue on why I would get this error on windows opt only : https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=37331820&tree=Try&full=1#error0
  774. # [14:11] <Optimizer> it is totally unrelated to my test, but is happening consistently at that point
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  863. # [16:22] <RattyAway> wha'hoppen to the tree?
  864. # [16:23] * Ms2ger sits up
  865. # [16:23] <RattyAway> "Mardi Douglass is now following you on Yammer"
  866. # [16:23] <Ms2ger> Looks like a browser-chromepocalypse
  867. # [16:23] <RattyAway> now that's *scary*
  868. # [16:23] <RattyAway> I got that part
  869. # [16:25] <Ms2ger> Basically, having test output overflow the logs means everything goes green whatever
  870. # [16:28] <RattyAway> in other words everything went tits-up
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  872. # [16:29] <Ms2ger> Well that's another way to put it :)
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  878. # [16:32] <WG9s> Ms2ger, RattyAway: Kind of a british way I think.
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  887. # [16:43] <jwatt> who's sheriff?
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  896. # [17:02] <till> mconnor++, excellent argument
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  910. # [17:20] <Ms2ger> jwatt, I can be
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  912. # [17:22] <Ms2ger> till, ?
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  915. # [17:25] <till> Ms2ger: that list you won't want to read right now ...
  916. # [17:25] <Ms2ger> Ah
  917. # [17:25] <Ms2ger> Thanks :)
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  944. # [17:49] <reuben> gerv++
  945. # [17:49] <reuben> I'd rather be engaging with people on m.governance than twitter tbh
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  968. # [18:31] <jesup> Ms2ger: sounds like a great way to make the tests all green!
  969. # [18:32] <jesup> reuben: I'd rather be engaging with anyone anywhere than twitter
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  971. # [18:33] <Ms2ger> I'd rather not engage with anybody
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  984. # [18:41] <philor> indeed
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  993. # [18:53] <RattyAway> anti social wot?
  994. # [18:53] <reuben> http://cl.ly/image/0V0B2G0h3X2O
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  1004. # [19:05] <Ms2ger> You're a smart man
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  1030. # [19:29] <philor> I hate the opacity of hg push
  1031. # [19:29] <philor> I've been "searching for changes" for 5 or 10 minutes
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  1033. # [19:30] <philor> will it time out? will it hang forever? if I kill it will things be fine, or will I require IT assistance?
  1034. # [19:30] <gaston> isnt there a -v or --progress thing ?
  1035. # [19:30] <philor> is there a retroactive one?
  1036. # [19:30] <gaston> i doubt that :)
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  1066. # [20:01] <jesup> philor: it should time out. May take a while.
  1067. # [20:01] * jesup is not an hg internals expert
  1068. # [20:02] <Ms2ger> Ah, nice key word there
  1069. # [20:02] <Ms2ger> "should"
  1070. # [20:05] <philor> might have been interesting to see whether it would have timed out at 45 or 60 minutes, but 30 was too much for me to tolerate, so I killed it and got away with it
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  1163. # [21:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73af60e34c5b - Bobby Holley - Bug 986730 - Rename NODE_IS_IN_ANONYMOUS_SUBTREE to NODE_IS_IN_NATIVE_ANONYMOUS_SUBTREE, since that's what it is. r=smaug
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  1171. # [21:44] <philor> what's a more bitter phrase for "yet again"?
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  1179. # [21:53] <idwer> "OH NO"
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  1203. # [22:24] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: any idea how safe event.rangeParent/Offset are to use?
  1204. # [22:24] <Ms2ger> Safe in what sense?
  1205. # [22:25] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: well, they don't seem to be standard, so they could get removed at any time?
  1206. # [22:26] <Ms2ger> Yeah, that seems accurate on first sight
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  1209. # [22:29] <philor> sweet, I needed to refer to the infamous zombocom tree closure for a comment, so I had to look up the bug, and I see that we not only never fixed the problem, we never even considered starting to investigate it
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  1212. # [22:31] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: oh, spellchecking depends rather heavily on it
  1213. # [22:32] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, we can make things chrome-only easily now ;)
  1214. # [22:32] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: that's not a problem for me, I only want this from chrome
  1215. # [22:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/fd2ba49e9abb - Jan Beich - Bug 992593 - Remove File->Page setup menu item for other GTK/QT platforms as well. r=gavin
  1216. # [22:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/5e4eaa3891be - Philipp Sackl - Bug 878020 - Add inner shadows to the tab overflow container. r=MattN
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  1218. # [22:33] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: so, rangeParent looks safe to use from chrome?
  1219. # [22:34] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, hrm, you're not :NeilAway on bmo?
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  1224. # [22:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/59f537a1e9cb - Jan Beich - Bug 991966 - Add/sort missing asm.js stubs for --disable-ion after bug 878399. r=benj
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  1227. # [22:38] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, not going to recommend using it, but you'll probably be fine... Follow bug 992678 in case someone wants to remove it :)
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